1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:08,960 I know a law firm that will represent you anyway, very apropos anyway. 2 00:00:10,160 --> 00:00:13,439 That is called the murder. We have two of the guys from Purging Sin 3 00:00:13,560 --> 00:00:18,679 here with Jenny and I this morning on Matt Connorton Unleashed on Saturday, July 4 00:00:18,800 --> 00:00:23,039 twentieth, twenty twenty four. Welcome guys, Hello, thanks for having us. 5 00:00:23,039 --> 00:00:26,399 Man, hey, please introduce ourselves and now tell us who you are 6 00:00:26,399 --> 00:00:29,679 and what you do in the band. Hi, this is Anthony Nacastro. 7 00:00:29,879 --> 00:00:34,600 I am the lead singer and with them lead guitary player of the band. 8 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:39,079 I am Brian Barkstill. I am the backing vocals and bass player. And 9 00:00:39,359 --> 00:00:44,679 who are we missing? So we are missing our new drummer, Ed Battles, 10 00:00:45,520 --> 00:00:49,560 and our other guitar player, Sean Schaeffer, is not with us today. 11 00:00:49,759 --> 00:00:53,000 Okay, okay, now neither of them have been murdered. I hope. 12 00:00:53,159 --> 00:00:58,920 Oh no, okay, just making sure why you look think you're about 13 00:00:58,920 --> 00:01:02,399 to say something about it, but I don't know. Your hand is on 14 00:01:02,520 --> 00:01:04,680 the controller. Oh he's getting ready to just shut me down again. You 15 00:01:04,719 --> 00:01:12,519 see this law firm, Yes, yes, but that's a yeah. But 16 00:01:12,719 --> 00:01:19,120 as uh as evidenced in one of our our ads. Yeah, just call 17 00:01:19,760 --> 00:01:22,599 one of those guys with the really catchy jingles or something. Yeah, that's 18 00:01:22,680 --> 00:01:26,400 right, that's right now. Uh, Brian, were you were you here 19 00:01:26,400 --> 00:01:29,480 with us? I remember, Anthony you were here? Were you here also, 20 00:01:29,519 --> 00:01:30,439 Brian? Yes, I was here last time? Ye? Okay? 21 00:01:30,439 --> 00:01:33,719 And is the lineup the same? I know it's been a few years, 22 00:01:33,879 --> 00:01:37,480 so it's actually changed since the last time we're here, because I think the 23 00:01:37,560 --> 00:01:41,000 last time we were on the show, we had our drummer, Zach King 24 00:01:41,120 --> 00:01:44,640 with us. Okay, So yeah, the lineups changed a little bit since 25 00:01:44,640 --> 00:01:49,239 the last time we were here. Okay, Okay. Melanie, Uh, 26 00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:52,239 Liberty in the chat room says, I would love to know the inspiration for 27 00:01:52,319 --> 00:01:57,840 this one. I think we're all curious. So that actually came as a 28 00:01:57,879 --> 00:02:05,359 blend of multiple story movies and one being the h the assassination from John Lennon 29 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:10,759 from Mark David Chapman, and then the assassination attempt from Reagan and the things 30 00:02:10,919 --> 00:02:15,960 the two the one thing that they both had in common were both assailants were 31 00:02:15,960 --> 00:02:21,919 infatuated by the book Catcher in the Rye. So I took all three and 32 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:25,919 blended that into one song. So the first verse is all about John Lennon's 33 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:31,400 murder. The second verses about the assassination attempt, and it's an infatuation with 34 00:02:31,479 --> 00:02:36,000 Jordie Foster, you know, you know, trying to prove our love to 35 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:38,800 you know, he was trying to prove his love to Jordie Foster. And 36 00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:44,360 then the bridge section was about you know, the you know, the catcher 37 00:02:44,400 --> 00:02:47,240 in the Rye, you know, and it may actually I referenced in the 38 00:02:47,280 --> 00:02:53,039 bridge itself in the Rye. And then at the end, uh is their 39 00:02:53,159 --> 00:02:55,800 institutionalized and they have the thoughts they got you know, they wanted fame, 40 00:02:57,080 --> 00:03:00,479 is they wanted recognition, but if they got let out, who knows what 41 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:02,759 they'd be capable of again. So with that repent, I'd kill again. 42 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:07,560 And and it's a little it's a little bittersweet considering the fact in recent years 43 00:03:07,599 --> 00:03:14,560 Reagan's attapted a sense assassin has actually been released from like what and like now 44 00:03:14,599 --> 00:03:17,240 he's playing and now he's trying to start a record label, like playing acoustic 45 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:23,199 guitar. So it's just like, okay, I know, right, uh, 46 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:28,400 well yeah it's I I was gonna say, I remember a couple of 47 00:03:28,479 --> 00:03:30,039 years ago, two or three years ago. I was listening to Howard Stern 48 00:03:30,120 --> 00:03:35,520 one morning and they were talking about that and and playing some because uh yeah, 49 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:38,520 John Hinckley Junior, he's like, he's playing shows. He's got a 50 00:03:39,039 --> 00:03:42,719 it was like a live performance that he did, him and an acoustic guitar, 51 00:03:42,719 --> 00:03:45,360 and they played some of it, and uh and it wasn't very good, 52 00:03:45,879 --> 00:03:49,400 uh for one thing. But uh, but it's it's weird. It's 53 00:03:49,439 --> 00:03:52,879 such a weird world that we live in. And you know, here's John 54 00:03:52,960 --> 00:03:59,240 Hinckley Junior, who attempted to assassinate Ronald Reagan playing a show somewhere, and 55 00:03:59,439 --> 00:04:01,159 uh, I I think he kind of got shut down. I think his 56 00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:05,000 career, his music career has already been kind of shut down because obviously he's 57 00:04:05,039 --> 00:04:10,599 a bit of a controversial figure. Having an attempted to assassins an understatement. 58 00:04:10,639 --> 00:04:13,240 But yeah, and uh, you know, I don't know, like, 59 00:04:14,879 --> 00:04:16,759 you know, I don't know how anyone in the music industry would want to, 60 00:04:17,319 --> 00:04:20,240 you know, attach themselves to him. Yeah, I mean, I 61 00:04:20,279 --> 00:04:25,600 mean, considering they've had some colorful, uh characters in the music industry before. 62 00:04:25,639 --> 00:04:28,759 I mean, even the guitarist from the former guitarist of Cannibal corpse. 63 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:31,040 He was arrested for having human remains in his house, and it was just 64 00:04:31,079 --> 00:04:35,199 like, so he's no longer with cannibal Corpse. Yeah yeah again, And 65 00:04:35,319 --> 00:04:39,759 I guess anything's possible. I don't know how else to say something. I 66 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:43,720 mean, people complain about cancel culture, but there do have to be sublimits 67 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:46,079 in terms of what we'll tolerate, right right, Yeah, I think I 68 00:04:46,079 --> 00:04:50,240 think I would draw the line at uh the music of a would be assassin. 69 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:57,040 Yeah sounds about right, yeah, yeah, but yeah, so yeah, 70 00:04:57,040 --> 00:05:00,720 I wondered what the uh so that's what what the songs about it is? 71 00:05:00,519 --> 00:05:04,480 And Anthony, you wrote the lyrics? Is is everything that you write 72 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:09,199 kind of dark like that or what? What? I don't think I have 73 00:05:09,279 --> 00:05:14,600 much of a happy song, A little bit more doc than O those. 74 00:05:15,399 --> 00:05:17,560 And it was fun when I actually wrote the I think the chorus first in 75 00:05:17,600 --> 00:05:20,680 that song, I was actually the music, no, just trying out guitars 76 00:05:20,839 --> 00:05:26,160 and I was just humming along and I made the chorus FIfF, and I'm 77 00:05:26,199 --> 00:05:29,079 like, oh, I like that. So I've took a little video snapshot 78 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:32,720 of me and I'm just humming no no no no no no no no no 79 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:36,720 no no no did the motive for you, you know, so I gotta 80 00:05:38,120 --> 00:05:40,959 so this this brings me to the story that I was I was gonna mention 81 00:05:41,120 --> 00:05:46,279 now before we came in. So when we he originally pitched the song to 82 00:05:46,480 --> 00:05:49,279 our original lineup, when our original guitar player, Matt Harris, god Rest 83 00:05:49,319 --> 00:05:54,480 his soul was still alive, We're just like looking at each other, like, 84 00:05:54,519 --> 00:05:56,920 wow, I do not like this song. But but then again, 85 00:05:56,959 --> 00:06:00,720 we were like in between drummers at the time, and just like the song 86 00:06:00,839 --> 00:06:04,000 just sounds just so disorganized so anything. But like once we actually got a 87 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:08,480 drummer back, like the song just like really came together. And then of 88 00:06:08,519 --> 00:06:11,399 course it becomes the first single that we released off of our second album, 89 00:06:11,519 --> 00:06:16,079 Vindicated. Yeah, and it became a much bigger hit than I ever thought 90 00:06:16,519 --> 00:06:23,120 was ever possible. I know, Hey, I've been wrong before. And 91 00:06:23,199 --> 00:06:26,759 it was actually kind of funny because like we after we had recorded it as 92 00:06:26,839 --> 00:06:31,399 a single, before we had it completely mastered, we put out a demo 93 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:36,439 on our YouTube channel and some other some other stations in the area actually caught 94 00:06:36,439 --> 00:06:39,959 wind of it like before, and they thought it was like us releasing a 95 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:42,560 new single. So we're like looking at each other like, oh no, 96 00:06:43,720 --> 00:06:47,040 they're so they're playing the unmastered track on the radio, and it's just like, 97 00:06:47,120 --> 00:06:51,360 wow, we uh probably should have thought that went through, But after 98 00:06:51,360 --> 00:06:56,399 we had it put on the album, it became one of our more popular 99 00:06:56,439 --> 00:06:59,360 songs over the past few years. So yeah, that's great. And to 100 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:01,720 have an organic catch on like that, you know, like radio stations playing 101 00:07:01,720 --> 00:07:05,160 the unmastered version, I mean that's pretty cool. Actually, yeaeah it was. 102 00:07:05,199 --> 00:07:08,839 It kind of it took us by surprise, honestly, Yeah, big, 103 00:07:08,959 --> 00:07:11,800 big time surprise. Yeah, lets look at the album mastered now. 104 00:07:12,560 --> 00:07:15,800 Yeah. Yeah, so this is why. It's just like if we if 105 00:07:15,800 --> 00:07:19,519 we have anything new coming out, it's just like we'll release like snippets and 106 00:07:19,519 --> 00:07:24,560 teasers and stuff like that. But yeah, if somebody's trying to get on 107 00:07:24,920 --> 00:07:28,040 hold of our music, and it's like they're going to just immediately grab it 108 00:07:28,040 --> 00:07:30,079 and run with it. So yeah, yeah, I was really by the 109 00:07:30,120 --> 00:07:33,240 way you mentioned Matt Harris. I was really sad about that. It's been 110 00:07:33,279 --> 00:07:40,240 a few years now, four years September. Yeah, he had never he 111 00:07:40,319 --> 00:07:43,600 had never been on this show, but I knew Matt just from the sea. 112 00:07:44,040 --> 00:07:46,959 Yeah, and I forget what band he was in when I first met 113 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:51,639 him. Blackout Frenzy was one of his bands. Yep, it might have 114 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:55,680 been. Might have been the Blackout Frenzy. I remember it was one of 115 00:07:55,680 --> 00:07:58,480 his last ones, But I can't remember what the because I remember book yeah, 116 00:07:58,480 --> 00:08:01,279 because I remember when I used to promote hid Unreal was the other one 117 00:08:01,319 --> 00:08:03,399 that he was with? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, but I think 118 00:08:03,399 --> 00:08:05,120 it was Blackout Frenzy he was with when I used to when I used to 119 00:08:05,120 --> 00:08:11,040 book them. M m. And uh what one of the genuinely nicest people 120 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:13,800 I've ever without a doubt, you know, it's so and I got to 121 00:08:13,839 --> 00:08:16,079 tell you, like, it just shows how much of an impact he had 122 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:22,120 on the local scene. Because as soon as the news resonated that he had 123 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:26,120 passed away, I was actually very amazed. Another show did a segment on 124 00:08:26,199 --> 00:08:31,360 him, actually read his obituary on the air, said where his his wake 125 00:08:31,679 --> 00:08:35,519 and funeral was going to be. And we just see, like so many 126 00:08:35,679 --> 00:08:39,720 of the other local bands that he's either been with or he's friends with, 127 00:08:39,960 --> 00:08:43,960 just that the crowd that he drew to his wake was amazing. It just 128 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:48,639 it really showed how much of an impact he had on this community and it 129 00:08:48,759 --> 00:08:52,679 was just it was it was nice to see so many people come out and 130 00:08:52,720 --> 00:08:56,320 pay their respects for him. It really was. We were very humbled and 131 00:08:56,399 --> 00:09:00,200 you know, very floored honestly about the amount of support that you know, 132 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:03,480 came out and drove. So yeah, you knew a lot of people, 133 00:09:03,559 --> 00:09:05,440 not just you know, within the music industry, but you know his work 134 00:09:05,639 --> 00:09:09,240 work industry too. Yep. And he was just a very generally good hearted 135 00:09:09,279 --> 00:09:13,279 person. Oh yeah, absolutely, yeah, yeah, it was. It 136 00:09:13,320 --> 00:09:16,399 was tragic to you know, first to watch it from day one when he 137 00:09:16,480 --> 00:09:20,679 got the diagnosis to the very and it was cancer, right, yeah, 138 00:09:20,759 --> 00:09:24,399 yeah, yeah, yeah, it started off as colon cancer but then just 139 00:09:24,440 --> 00:09:30,120 mess aside to different organs and yeah, but it was one of those things 140 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:33,840 where he caught it extremely late and like he had all the signs, but 141 00:09:33,919 --> 00:09:35,840 he never got checked for it. Oh okay, that was really kind of 142 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:39,080 what did him in Get checked everyone, if you're listening, get checked. 143 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:41,840 Yeah. And this is why the same thing, like every time I talk 144 00:09:41,919 --> 00:09:45,919 to like somebody in the medical industry, this is why they're reducing the age 145 00:09:45,960 --> 00:09:50,360 of like a first colonoscopy down to to forty five because now there are more 146 00:09:50,399 --> 00:09:54,799 and more signs of like colon cancer that are popping up much earlier on and 147 00:09:56,320 --> 00:09:58,279 they it's one of the most preventable that you can get, Like if you 148 00:09:58,360 --> 00:10:01,840 catch it quick, it can be it can be cured. And he was 149 00:10:03,200 --> 00:10:09,080 he was young, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, unbelievable. How 150 00:10:09,120 --> 00:10:13,200 long was he in purging sin? Five years? Five years? Yeah? 151 00:10:13,279 --> 00:10:16,159 Okay, okay, yeah, No, I was very I was very sad 152 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:18,879 to I can't believe it's been four years already that he's been gone. Wow. 153 00:10:20,279 --> 00:10:24,559 Yeah, but uh, I mean, did you guys, what was 154 00:10:24,600 --> 00:10:28,480 that like for you guys in terms of, you know, very often people 155 00:10:28,399 --> 00:10:35,559 deal with grief creatively. Did did did Did any music come out of that? 156 00:10:33,919 --> 00:10:37,799 There were two songs that came out of it, and one will be 157 00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:41,039 played later on the show is a song called Hell and the Horizon. Oh 158 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:46,360 my god, what a great track. So so that was the last song 159 00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:50,159 that he has ever recorded with us. Oh so, I had no idea. 160 00:10:50,240 --> 00:10:54,679 Yeah. So so the second guitar solo in that song during after the 161 00:10:54,720 --> 00:10:58,039 clean Bridge breakdown that we have, that's him playing guitar. But we also 162 00:10:58,080 --> 00:11:03,679 wrote a song and put it on our second album, Vindicated, which is 163 00:11:03,720 --> 00:11:07,360 called Shell of bones, So the riff was actually composed by him, but 164 00:11:07,519 --> 00:11:09,279 he had not played on this track. So that was a song that we 165 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:13,279 wrote in as an homage film. Yes, oh I had no idea. 166 00:11:13,360 --> 00:11:16,039 Wow. Yeah, it's a great, great song, great song. Yeah, 167 00:11:16,039 --> 00:11:22,120 I look forward to sharing that with everybody. Now, So are you 168 00:11:22,159 --> 00:11:24,840 guys, what have you been doing? Have you been playing a lot of 169 00:11:24,879 --> 00:11:31,159 shows or have you been We've been very busy and it's I mean so obviously 170 00:11:31,279 --> 00:11:33,559 like a lot of stuff has been kind of just it's been slowing down but 171 00:11:33,639 --> 00:11:37,679 also picking up and summer now for us has actually gotten very busy. We 172 00:11:37,679 --> 00:11:41,320 actually we actually just came off of a show at Tupelo Music Hall. We 173 00:11:41,360 --> 00:11:48,360 opened for the the all female eighties metal band Vixen open for Vie. That's 174 00:11:48,399 --> 00:11:50,399 cool. So we just got that one, and then of course the big 175 00:11:50,440 --> 00:11:54,600 one that we have next Thursdays, we're returning to the Bank of New Hampshire 176 00:11:54,600 --> 00:11:58,559 Pavilion to play on the hazy little stage before God Smack, Nothing More and 177 00:11:58,639 --> 00:12:03,360 Flat Black. Okay, so that's that's really the big one. But Vixen 178 00:12:03,399 --> 00:12:07,399 did they play Obviously they played Edge of a Broken Heart. That was the 179 00:12:07,399 --> 00:12:13,679 closer, closer yet did they play how Much Love? We were watching the 180 00:12:13,720 --> 00:12:20,000 most unfortunately. And it's funny because like the only original member of Vixen is 181 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:24,440 is Rocky Patrucci, the drummer. But and they just debuted their their new 182 00:12:24,559 --> 00:12:28,399 lead singer, I can't remember what her name was, but very nice group 183 00:12:28,399 --> 00:12:31,200 of girls and they put out a new album just with him last year. 184 00:12:31,240 --> 00:12:35,240 I think yes. And funny thing is is, uh, they actually had 185 00:12:35,279 --> 00:12:39,559 a lead singer, Lorraine Lewis, and they recorded that album with her. 186 00:12:39,679 --> 00:12:45,440 I think there's this single was called Red. But it's it's funny because like 187 00:12:45,639 --> 00:12:50,120 I had a situation with my Uh so, my aunt actually met Lorraine Lewis 188 00:12:50,159 --> 00:12:54,080 a few months ago. She's actually recorded my aunt has recorded backing tracks on 189 00:12:54,120 --> 00:12:58,639 a Lorraine Lewis track. So I was thinking to myself, I'm like, 190 00:12:58,840 --> 00:13:03,279 so my aunt is talking up uh Lorraine Lewis about us, And I was 191 00:13:03,279 --> 00:13:05,399 thinking, man, this would come full circle if like we got the show 192 00:13:05,440 --> 00:13:09,840 we're opening for Vixen, but then Lorraine Lewis leaves Vixen months before we're supposed 193 00:13:09,840 --> 00:13:13,440 to open for this, So it was like it was this close to becoming 194 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:16,279 full circle. Like yeah, the fact that like they were talking us up 195 00:13:16,279 --> 00:13:18,919 and then the next thing, you know, we're playing with Vixen. So 196 00:13:18,960 --> 00:13:22,600 that's pretty wild. Yeah, I think too, like her leaving it was 197 00:13:22,639 --> 00:13:26,279 it was there's some kind of issue, right, I think legally or something 198 00:13:26,440 --> 00:13:31,679 like. If I'm not mistaken, it was not. I think it was 199 00:13:31,720 --> 00:13:35,399 like a creative thing. But I really can't remember what the reason was. 200 00:13:35,519 --> 00:13:39,799 I saw something about it, but there was there was some sort of a 201 00:13:39,879 --> 00:13:43,720 disagreement, as so often happens, Yeah, in the music industry. Yeah, 202 00:13:43,720 --> 00:13:46,840 so the drummers, she's the only original member, correct, Yeah, 203 00:13:48,360 --> 00:13:50,279 and they were all nice people. We got to hang out after the show 204 00:13:50,320 --> 00:13:52,919 with them, they all out. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So we 205 00:13:54,159 --> 00:13:58,240 have a couple of pictures on our Instagram of us, I mean, both 206 00:13:58,279 --> 00:14:01,639 me and Anthony with our respective players. So I'm with the bass player, 207 00:14:01,679 --> 00:14:03,159 he's with the lead singer. So it was it was a night. It 208 00:14:03,200 --> 00:14:05,679 was a good night. We had we had fun. Now what is so 209 00:14:05,840 --> 00:14:09,279 in a scenario like that though, So how do you, I mean, 210 00:14:09,320 --> 00:14:13,799 what is your mindset? Because you have to know going into that, this 211 00:14:13,879 --> 00:14:20,399 is you guys don't sound like Vixen, and and you know, and and 212 00:14:20,440 --> 00:14:24,240 the typical I don't want to say typical, but you know, I mean 213 00:14:24,360 --> 00:14:28,320 Vixen. If for anyone who doesn't know, for youngins who might be listening, 214 00:14:28,320 --> 00:14:31,320 you know, they were you could call them hair metal. Some people 215 00:14:31,360 --> 00:14:33,159 don't like that term, but yeah, you know from the eighties. You 216 00:14:33,200 --> 00:14:37,519 know, they had a couple of big hits and but very much that sound, 217 00:14:37,720 --> 00:14:41,279 and you guys are very much not that sound. So how do you 218 00:14:41,360 --> 00:14:45,679 like going into that? Do you worry about that? Do you? It 219 00:14:45,759 --> 00:14:50,399 depends on who we're playing with. I mean, I was amazed that we 220 00:14:50,480 --> 00:14:54,399 actually got the show with Vixen. Obviously there's other like bands from the eighties 221 00:14:54,440 --> 00:14:58,600 that are a little bit more attuned to our music. I mean Metal Church. 222 00:14:58,639 --> 00:15:03,279 When we played with them last year, they were definitely a lot closer 223 00:15:03,320 --> 00:15:07,919 to our sound. But I think it's also a matter of like, because 224 00:15:07,960 --> 00:15:11,519 our sound is so unique, it's kind of hard for us to pair with 225 00:15:11,639 --> 00:15:18,399 other similar types of artists. But as I said, they've they've been booking 226 00:15:18,440 --> 00:15:22,200 some really great shows at Tupelo, And as soon as I caught win that 227 00:15:22,279 --> 00:15:24,679 Vixen was coming, I was just like, you know what I'm gonna I 228 00:15:24,759 --> 00:15:26,360 was gonna take a gamble on it. See if they needed it. I 229 00:15:26,399 --> 00:15:31,679 was amazed they write they reached out and they said yes, and we just 230 00:15:31,679 --> 00:15:35,720 hopped on it as quickly as we could. And then so what what happens 231 00:15:35,039 --> 00:15:39,480 like is the crowd is there kind of a process of winning them over? 232 00:15:39,720 --> 00:15:43,399 Is there sometimes is in these situations. I mean it didn't like they were 233 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:48,679 loving it from the first, you know, no, there were people there 234 00:15:48,720 --> 00:15:50,919 was the first table in front of us, they like all head bang and 235 00:15:50,960 --> 00:15:54,759 good now, I mean we one thing we started doing more more is that 236 00:15:54,840 --> 00:15:58,399 how gets closer to us close enough you can start like you can start playing 237 00:15:58,399 --> 00:16:02,559 like candema guitar, I pick admids stroke and go grab another one. Yeah, 238 00:16:02,600 --> 00:16:04,440 And it's stuff like that. The interaction so you're not like, you 239 00:16:04,480 --> 00:16:07,519 know, ten twenty feet away from them, you can you know get you 240 00:16:07,559 --> 00:16:11,240 know, you know, there's no mosh pit in front of you. There's 241 00:16:11,240 --> 00:16:15,320 still a lot of engagement and interaction right as well. And that the crowd 242 00:16:15,440 --> 00:16:18,799 reaction was phenomenal. Who play like clean parts of a song they had the 243 00:16:18,960 --> 00:16:22,080 cell phones up. Was when I was doing the hey hey hey is they 244 00:16:22,120 --> 00:16:26,440 would chance on it back. Yeah. So I mean that that's really it's 245 00:16:26,480 --> 00:16:30,799 still always comes like as a shock to me every time I do something on 246 00:16:30,960 --> 00:16:33,759 you know, vocal wise, and they respond back to me, I'm like, 247 00:16:34,360 --> 00:16:40,120 wow, I'm like but it command and at the same time, with 248 00:16:40,279 --> 00:16:42,440 us being like an opening act for a lot of these guys, this our 249 00:16:42,519 --> 00:16:45,399 job is to just get the crowd fired up, getting them ready, and 250 00:16:47,279 --> 00:16:51,679 like, if we have the crowd excited and enjoying our music at the same 251 00:16:51,720 --> 00:16:55,919 time, I know we've done our job and we're very lively on stage. 252 00:16:56,000 --> 00:16:59,279 We're not statues by any stretches. No, right, right. Oh, 253 00:16:59,320 --> 00:17:02,039 by the way, I missed comment or do you guys know Bruce from Legion 254 00:17:02,120 --> 00:17:06,759 of Solace. I do not know. He's in Massachusetts, but does a 255 00:17:06,799 --> 00:17:11,599 ton of a ton of work with musicians from all over New England and promotional 256 00:17:11,599 --> 00:17:12,960 wise, and we had him on the show. A great guy and someone 257 00:17:12,960 --> 00:17:15,480 you should definitely meet. But he he mentioned this, you know, we 258 00:17:15,480 --> 00:17:19,359 were talking earlier about the murder song. He said, don't forget Manson wrote 259 00:17:19,359 --> 00:17:23,880 a guns N' Roses song, which one was that I can't remember. Thought 260 00:17:23,880 --> 00:17:30,279 he worked with the Beach Beach Boys. Manson, oh less Charles Manson, 261 00:17:30,359 --> 00:17:34,359 Yeah, I thought he's with the Beach Boys. The Monkeys. I have 262 00:17:34,359 --> 00:17:37,319 to look that up. I appreciate it. He worked with one of those 263 00:17:37,359 --> 00:17:42,400 bands in the sixties. Yeah, I know he was inspired by Helter Skelter 264 00:17:42,559 --> 00:17:45,759 by the Beatles, I know that. Yeah. I mean it's funny, 265 00:17:45,839 --> 00:17:51,279 much much like any modern horror movie, like the best inspiration comes from the 266 00:17:51,319 --> 00:17:56,079 worst of society. That was a quote I remember watching from a celebrity graveyard 267 00:17:56,160 --> 00:18:00,039 channel that I follow, and yeah, they actually when I was watching that 268 00:18:00,079 --> 00:18:06,240 same channel, I remember they highlighted the grave of head ed Gean, which 269 00:18:06,519 --> 00:18:11,200 was the inspiration of like Sounds of the Lambs, the Texas Chainsaw Massacre and 270 00:18:11,400 --> 00:18:15,960 was actually the premises for Slayers Deadskin Mask. Oh okay, so because he 271 00:18:17,079 --> 00:18:21,640 was the plainfield butcher, the guy who would tear off people skin and use 272 00:18:21,640 --> 00:18:25,599 it for clothing or lampshades or furniture stuff like that. So that that's what 273 00:18:25,640 --> 00:18:30,640 I mean. It's just like some of the most horrific things like in songs 274 00:18:30,680 --> 00:18:34,960 and media come from like reality. So it's it's strange, but it really 275 00:18:36,039 --> 00:18:38,599 is. Now, what was opening for you guys? Opened for Metal Church. 276 00:18:38,799 --> 00:18:44,400 Yes, that was fun, awesome, much fun. So those guys, 277 00:18:44,440 --> 00:18:48,160 I actually I met those guys back in twenty nineteen on board the inaugural 278 00:18:48,200 --> 00:18:52,920 Megadeth Crews that I happened to just win a free cabin to. And it's 279 00:18:52,920 --> 00:18:57,480 funny because uh stet Holland, who is formerly of the band Wasp, he's 280 00:18:57,559 --> 00:19:02,720 now playing drums for Medal Church. He's from Onset, Massachusetts, so he's 281 00:19:02,720 --> 00:19:07,720 a fellow mass native like me. So we started talking over over the past 282 00:19:07,720 --> 00:19:11,640 few years. Really nice guy, and we've just stayed in context over the 283 00:19:11,680 --> 00:19:15,200 years. And I heard they were coming to town and I was just like, 284 00:19:15,400 --> 00:19:18,240 can we play with you guys? And we worked it out, we 285 00:19:18,559 --> 00:19:21,279 got a hold of it. And then of course the new lead singer, 286 00:19:21,319 --> 00:19:25,200 Mark Lopes, who was in Ross the Boss from Man of War, he 287 00:19:25,279 --> 00:19:29,759 actually took over for Mike how after he passed away in twenty twenty one. 288 00:19:30,359 --> 00:19:33,359 And it's funny because I talked to Mark all the time. He's once again 289 00:19:33,480 --> 00:19:37,440 a fellow Massachusetts native. He actually went to high school with a friend of 290 00:19:37,480 --> 00:19:41,440 my dad's, so and then we finally like actually met each other playing the 291 00:19:41,440 --> 00:19:45,039 show together. And it's just like half the half the band is like based 292 00:19:45,039 --> 00:19:48,920 out of Seattle, and half the band is based out of Boston. It's 293 00:19:48,960 --> 00:19:52,480 just like it was such such a cool mix. But those guys they're just 294 00:19:52,559 --> 00:19:56,799 they're they're hot tickets. They are they're great guys all around. That crowd 295 00:19:56,880 --> 00:20:00,440 must have been really into what you oh oh yeah, yeah. That was 296 00:20:00,480 --> 00:20:03,559 probably one of our more lively air crowds we've had, even though they had 297 00:20:03,039 --> 00:20:07,440 they had the dining room table thing all across the stage and like, I 298 00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:10,720 that was the thing We've heard from all the fans was like, oh, 299 00:20:10,759 --> 00:20:14,839 it should have been standing room. We should have had much pisses. It 300 00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:18,559 was quite funny. Bruce just put this in the chat room. Uh So. 301 00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:22,680 The song Charles Manson wrote that Guns N' Roses recorded was called look at 302 00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:26,319 Your Game. Oh, look at your Game Girl. It was on the 303 00:20:26,359 --> 00:20:30,759 album The Spaghetti Incident. Oh okay, okay, And those of us who 304 00:20:30,799 --> 00:20:36,680 are old enough may remember the album being pulled from the shelves as a fourteen 305 00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:41,640 track album and being re released as a thirteen track album. This is why 306 00:20:41,759 --> 00:20:45,680 social back Oh, this is why social backlash against the single. I don't 307 00:20:45,759 --> 00:20:49,039 remember that. Thank you Bruce for sharing that. I actually don't remember that, 308 00:20:49,160 --> 00:20:53,599 but I mean I do remember there being some sort of controversy around the 309 00:20:53,599 --> 00:20:56,759 spaghetti incident, but I didn't remember that it was that. That's interesting. 310 00:20:56,880 --> 00:21:02,400 That was a cover album, right begin Yeah, yeah, yeah, very 311 00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:10,279 interesting. But certainly not the first time that there's been controversy around a Guns 312 00:21:10,359 --> 00:21:14,799 n' Roses song and it and a song being pulled because I remember at one 313 00:21:14,839 --> 00:21:18,480 point, what was uh one in a million on song? One in a 314 00:21:18,519 --> 00:21:26,559 million? No, it was it was before that there might be no appetite 315 00:21:26,559 --> 00:21:29,799 definitely wasn't on that. I think it's on lives and our lives might be, 316 00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:33,200 but you use your el I'm sorry. One in a million. I 317 00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:37,000 remember, uh, they they reissued that at one point because there's a couple 318 00:21:37,039 --> 00:21:42,519 of words in there that you really can't say. But yeah, so not 319 00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:45,759 the not the first time, but also Guns n' Roses one of those bands 320 00:21:45,759 --> 00:21:49,279 that you know, made any kind of controversy kind of work for them. 321 00:21:49,359 --> 00:21:56,680 Certainly the whole no no probility is bad publicity, right right, which does 322 00:21:56,759 --> 00:22:00,240 have its limits. I mean it's not literally true, but but it is 323 00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:03,640 true in a lot of I mean, even look at the album that was 324 00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:08,680 released by Slayer back in twenty twenty one. It just like it coincided just 325 00:22:10,839 --> 00:22:14,119 terribly. But perfectly with like the days and the events of it. But 326 00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:17,480 it's just like, I mean, they advertise themselves as like an as like 327 00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:21,799 an anti religion band anyway. But that really caused the controversy because it happened 328 00:22:21,799 --> 00:22:23,880 to be released on nine to eleven was the album God Hates Us All. 329 00:22:25,599 --> 00:22:27,880 Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yep, So obviously that really kind of 330 00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:33,440 like that that's gonna leave some negative backlash, but yet funny enough, it's 331 00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:37,960 like one of the most popular albums they've ever released. Yeah. Yeah, 332 00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:41,440 well that was always a little the dynamics in that band too, a little 333 00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:48,000 bit complicated creatively because Tom Area is actually a devout Catholic, yes, and 334 00:22:48,279 --> 00:22:51,640 carry King is the one who's actually the Satanist Yeah, and very much an 335 00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:55,119 atheist carry King, yeah, very much. Yeah. And I remember reading 336 00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:56,880 an interview once. I was always kind of fascinated by this where you know, 337 00:22:57,039 --> 00:23:00,200 somebody asked Tom Area about that, you know, and you know, 338 00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:04,279 you got to sing these lyrics, but but you're a Christian and you know 339 00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:07,839 he said something like, you know, and you know, I I agreed 340 00:23:07,839 --> 00:23:10,799 with this point of view. It made sense to me. He just said, 341 00:23:10,799 --> 00:23:12,319 well, look, I mean they're they're songs. You know, I'm 342 00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:18,039 not necessarily these aren't necessarily my thoughts and ideas. You know, when you're 343 00:23:18,039 --> 00:23:19,920 singing a song, you're kind of playing a character in a sense, right, 344 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:25,039 You're you know, like the murder song. You know you're not you're 345 00:23:25,039 --> 00:23:29,039 not advocating for murder. You're putting yourself in the in the mind of the 346 00:23:29,079 --> 00:23:34,240 headspace. And this is there's a difference between like and much like, much 347 00:23:34,279 --> 00:23:37,839 like acting, there's a difference between what an actor plays and how the actor 348 00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:41,759 actually acts in reality. Now you look at like any of like the black 349 00:23:41,759 --> 00:23:45,240 metal bands you see out there, like Dark Funeral, they practice what they 350 00:23:45,279 --> 00:23:49,319 preach, so they are they are the true Satanists, like the blood drinking 351 00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:53,319 whatever. So is that true? Really? Yeah? Like that's what That's 352 00:23:53,319 --> 00:23:56,599 what I mean. Same thing with what was the other one Behemoth, the 353 00:23:56,839 --> 00:24:00,839 lead singer Nergal, same thing. He's a he's a div Satanist. And 354 00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:04,000 there's a difference between actionsus advocated, right Yeah, yeah, of course. 355 00:24:04,519 --> 00:24:08,200 But even some of these guys who call themselves Satanists, I mean there's I 356 00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:12,599 mean, because Satanism isn't literally I don't think for most people, they don't 357 00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:18,039 actually worship satan it's just you know, like there's leave and yeah Satanism, 358 00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:22,319 So basically there is a difference between it, like the actual Satanism actually believes 359 00:24:22,319 --> 00:24:25,880 in human sacrifice, drinking blood, all that kind of stuff, whereas like 360 00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:32,240 the the Lavaine Satanisms and the Temple of Satan, they are basically just glorified 361 00:24:32,279 --> 00:24:37,960 atheists using Satan as their kind of centerpiece of focus because it's supposed to be 362 00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:41,000 about the worship of the self as opposed to like, you know, actual 363 00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:48,920 practicing rituals that are combined within the faith. Yeah. Yeah, we had 364 00:24:48,799 --> 00:24:52,400 Jenny probably remembers this. We had a running joke. This was a number 365 00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:56,720 of years ago, but we had a running joke on the show, and 366 00:24:56,759 --> 00:24:59,799 we don't we don't really talk about politics anymore on this iteration of the program. 367 00:24:59,839 --> 00:25:07,240 But there was Brandon Finney who was a New Hampshire State rep. There 368 00:25:07,279 --> 00:25:11,960 was some controversy around him because he had come out as a Satanist, and 369 00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:15,039 he's a Republican, so he is expected to be a Christian, but he 370 00:25:15,039 --> 00:25:17,279 had come out as a Satanist and a lot of people were mad at him, 371 00:25:17,279 --> 00:25:18,640 and apparently he's not even really a Satanist. He was just kind of 372 00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:22,839 trolling. But so we had a running joke on the show though for a 373 00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:27,640 long time that we wanted to have him on the show to discuss this with 374 00:25:27,759 --> 00:25:32,680 him and explore the subject. But he had some very specific demands and that 375 00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:37,119 exactly he wouldn't come on unless exactly thirteen days before his appearance on the show, 376 00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:42,839 we sacrificed a goat in the studio and then he demanded that we This 377 00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:48,079 was when we were in our old studio on Elm Street on the third floor. 378 00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:52,599 We had to then after sacrificing the goat, push the goat out the 379 00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:56,640 window and onto Elm Street and then retrieve some of the blood at that point 380 00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:59,599 and so forth. So he had this whole thing he wanted us to do, 381 00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:02,640 or he used to come on the show. To this day, I 382 00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:06,000 don't know, And I'm Facebook friends with him and we've talked and he's been 383 00:26:06,039 --> 00:26:08,079 on the show, but I don't know if he to this day, if 384 00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:12,079 he has any idea that that was a running joke on the program that is 385 00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:15,440 really funny. I don't know if he even knows, and I've never asked 386 00:26:15,519 --> 00:26:21,440 him if he knows, because in my twisted mind, him not knowing makes 387 00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:25,839 it even funnier. Yes, it's just just to me. But anyway, 388 00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:27,319 Yeah, we had a we had a running joke about that further went on 389 00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:30,319 for a couple of years. You know, whenever his name would come up, 390 00:26:30,319 --> 00:26:34,440 I guess I need to go, you know, opened up. I 391 00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:38,720 mean, I moonlight as a butcher. Yes, well, I I just 392 00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:42,839 uh, you know, I used to say too, I I because I 393 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:45,359 said, I remember saying on the air that I told Brandon. I said, 394 00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:48,599 look, dude, we're not zoned for that, and you know that. 395 00:26:48,759 --> 00:26:52,839 Yeah, we can't risk uh staining the carpets and things, getting on 396 00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:56,880 equipment and whatnot. So he just I mean that's valuable. Yeah, yeah, 397 00:26:56,960 --> 00:27:00,480 yeah, I mean, and there's a fine line for this kind of 398 00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:03,880 stuff. It's just like, I mean, if it's if it's a ritualistic, 399 00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:07,839 as long as it's not really harming anybody, then I don't it is 400 00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:11,359 what it is. But like when you start causing like bodily harm and ending 401 00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:15,079 life, it's just okay, you're drawing a very very quick line right there. 402 00:27:15,759 --> 00:27:19,480 And that's really where like a lot of these these these people who practice 403 00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:22,920 these rituals, it's just like Okay, human sacrifice, You're you're basically taking 404 00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:26,240 the life of another It's that's well, of course, yeah, so or 405 00:27:26,599 --> 00:27:30,079 harming animals or harming any any other thing I object to, of course, 406 00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:34,240 but it's it's like, that's basically just like crossing the line and jumping off 407 00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:38,720 a cliff. Oh of course, yeah, of course. How did we 408 00:27:38,799 --> 00:27:41,799 get onto that? I don't even remember? Oh oh yeah, because we 409 00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:48,160 were talking about themes of the song. Yeah. Yeah. But is Vixen 410 00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:52,119 the most unusual show you guys have done as far as a match with other 411 00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:53,880 bands or if you if you don't any any others that are really I mean, 412 00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:57,720 Kicks was boy here. I think you guys opened for Kid. Yeah, 413 00:27:57,799 --> 00:28:00,640 that was another one we did last year or two. Yeah, that 414 00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:03,160 one I think was a little bit more of a an odtern match as far 415 00:28:03,279 --> 00:28:07,599 as that goes, because I mean they are definitely a lot more glam metal 416 00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:11,039 than than Vixen is. I mean, Vixen's a little bit more edgier than 417 00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:15,799 Kicks is. But yeah, because it was funny, like Anthony had mentioned, 418 00:28:15,839 --> 00:28:18,119 because this is the first time we ever played at the Vault in New 419 00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:22,799 Bedford, and they're they're very famous for bringing in a lot of like the 420 00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:26,960 eighties uh metal bands and stuff. And I was just like, because I 421 00:28:27,039 --> 00:28:30,000 knew the Vault. I've been to multiple shows at the Vault. It's a 422 00:28:30,079 --> 00:28:33,559 great venue. And uh, he mentioned who we were playing with, and 423 00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:37,400 I'm actually the one who was like super influenced by the the glam metal scene 424 00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:41,720 back in college and I loved Kicks when I was in college. So as 425 00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:45,759 soon as he said that we were opening for Kicks, I just like immediately 426 00:28:45,799 --> 00:28:48,440 start freaking out when I miss, like, Hey, Brian, we go 427 00:28:48,559 --> 00:28:51,440 off with a show for this band called to do it, And I'm just 428 00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:53,000 like, I didn't know anything. I really didn't know much about Kicks, 429 00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:56,400 and I didn't know if it was a fan of Kicks. So he came 430 00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:59,400 off like as like a matter of fact, I do like nonchalant, like 431 00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:02,920 we offered to show for Kicks, want to do it? Yeah, that 432 00:29:03,359 --> 00:29:06,599 one really got me excited. But but the thing is, it's just like, 433 00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:11,400 and this is where I kind of wish like the headliners could be a 434 00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:14,680 little bit more respectful to the local openers because we arrived on the scene, 435 00:29:14,759 --> 00:29:18,279 like right at the sound check, but they just took right off and so 436 00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:21,720 we we were on scene, we were interacting with everybody saying hey, And 437 00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:25,119 the only time we ever got to interact with them was like a couple of 438 00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:27,000 fans stuck around after the show. I went inside because I wanted to say 439 00:29:27,079 --> 00:29:32,559 thank you for having us, and I was able to talk to Brian ForSight, 440 00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:33,960 the guitar player, just and say thank you, and it was just 441 00:29:34,079 --> 00:29:38,359 like who's this guy? So it was but I don't know, I mean 442 00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:41,640 with Metal Church, they hung out with us. We were very so our 443 00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:45,480 merchan tables side by side, so we were interacting. I share it was 444 00:29:45,519 --> 00:29:48,359 open on Cooks. Yeah, he was having some hip troubles. I got 445 00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:52,640 gom chair and stuff. He's at hip surgery. Yeah, because originally they 446 00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:56,960 were supposed to play once again at at Tupelo this year, but because he 447 00:29:56,039 --> 00:29:59,680 had to have that emergency surgery, they had to cancel all their dates this 448 00:29:59,799 --> 00:30:03,920 year. Yeah. But yeah, so and we we've interacted with them, 449 00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:06,440 We talked with them backstage, they hung with us. They were actually like 450 00:30:07,119 --> 00:30:08,640 willing to just like sit and talk with us the whole time. So they 451 00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:12,400 were they were what we we hope, like anybody we play with would be 452 00:30:12,559 --> 00:30:17,160 just down to earth and just social, you know, I mean, you're 453 00:30:17,359 --> 00:30:21,160 playing with bands that are trying to be in the shoes of the people that 454 00:30:21,359 --> 00:30:25,799 are putting these shows together. So and this is what we love, is 455 00:30:25,839 --> 00:30:27,319 like we love to learn about the industry. We want to learn how to 456 00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:32,960 be better. And what a better way to learn from somebody than the people 457 00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:38,200 who are actually in the industry. It's yeah, exactly exactly. I'm trying 458 00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:42,759 to remember Kicks, like they had ad a few hits. That's the big 459 00:30:42,839 --> 00:30:45,640 one, that was the big one, big power ballad, but obviously like 460 00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:52,119 they had the long stripe and strip of songs from cold Blood to Girl Money. 461 00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:53,480 Girl Money is the one. I was just thinking about it because that 462 00:30:53,559 --> 00:30:56,440 one stands out to me because I remember the first time I heard it, 463 00:30:56,519 --> 00:30:59,759 I thought it was a CDC YEP, and then obviously like the whole Don't 464 00:30:59,759 --> 00:31:03,559 Blow, the whole Blow My Fuse album was like it was like the biggest 465 00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:07,279 thing. But obviously Midnight Dynamite was another great album. I think those were 466 00:31:07,319 --> 00:31:10,880 like the two best albums for those guys. But when they came out with 467 00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:14,400 their final album, Rock Your Face Off, I think back in twenty thirteen, 468 00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:17,319 twenty fourteen, something like that they had two singles off of that, 469 00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:19,759 one which was love Me with Your Top Down and the other one that they 470 00:31:21,039 --> 00:31:23,119 worked into their final set list, which was Wheels in Motion. Okay, 471 00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:26,240 so that one was the one that kind of did. But when they played 472 00:31:26,279 --> 00:31:30,720 the the setless live, a lot of the stuff came off of Midnight Dynamite 473 00:31:30,759 --> 00:31:34,039 and Don't and blow My Fears. Yeah, those were that was really kind 474 00:31:34,039 --> 00:31:37,359 of what helped you got to play the hits? Yeah? Did they did? 475 00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:40,880 They close with uh, don't close their Eyes. They actually closed with 476 00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:45,839 blow my fuse. Oh ok. Yeah. And it's funny because we had 477 00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:48,599 no idea that they were actually gonna plan on hanging it up after uh, 478 00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:52,000 after last year. So it was like second the last show, I think, 479 00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:55,400 oh, something along that lature, because they did a they did their 480 00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:59,440 final show in their home state of Maryland and uh and back in September twenty 481 00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:01,640 twenty three, they they called it quits good. Oh wow. So they 482 00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:06,400 were on a farewell tour basically basically didn't tell anyone. Yeah, they didn't 483 00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:08,119 tell anyone. Wow. Oh good for them, I guess for not going 484 00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:15,720 for the cash crab, right Molly, But I know, oh, I 485 00:32:15,799 --> 00:32:20,480 know it was like Vince, I mean, I feel worse for John five. 486 00:32:20,559 --> 00:32:22,559 I mean I just saw him on Valentine's Day this year and he's he's 487 00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:27,519 amazing. But for me, it just baffles me that he's working with those 488 00:32:27,519 --> 00:32:30,079 guys in like Motley Crue and like they've got everybody in Motley Crue is just 489 00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:32,759 like so out there. I mean, Nikki six, he's he's a bright 490 00:32:32,839 --> 00:32:37,759 dude, but like Vince and and Tommy, they are just wow, oh 491 00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:40,400 my god, gosh. The last time I saw Motley Crue, this must 492 00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:44,559 have been ten years ago. They were on the co headlining tour they did 493 00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:49,440 with Kiss and during Don't Go Away, Matt. Now, everyone knows Vince 494 00:32:49,839 --> 00:32:52,960 sounds terrible live, but you don't, you know, like with a lot 495 00:32:53,039 --> 00:32:57,720 of bands, though you don't necessarily notice it when you're if you're actually seeing 496 00:32:57,759 --> 00:33:00,240 them live, you don't realize until later when you go find the YouTube video. 497 00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:02,839 Yep, because when you're live, you know you're in the moment, 498 00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:07,680 everything's loud, and you just don't notice. But Vince during Don't Go Away 499 00:33:07,799 --> 00:33:12,839 Mad, you know, the fast part at the end, he at one 500 00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:16,039 point he hits a note that was so like, what is that that my 501 00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:22,400 friend Dan WMNH listeners know him as Dan Randall of Dan Randall and the Randlets. 502 00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:24,359 Dan and I actually looked at each other like what was that, Like 503 00:33:24,519 --> 00:33:30,079 he just was so And then recently I saw a video of them from recently 504 00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:36,480 playing. They opened a set with Primal Scream, which happens to be my 505 00:33:36,519 --> 00:33:38,079 favorite Miley cru song. I was like, oh cool, I play it, 506 00:33:38,839 --> 00:33:42,960 and as soon as Vince starts, it's like he's not even singing, 507 00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:45,640 He's just kind of blurting out the words. Yeah. It was like it 508 00:33:45,759 --> 00:33:49,240 sounded so bad. Yeah, because I think the last time I saw them, 509 00:33:49,279 --> 00:33:52,680 they were doing a headlining tour with Hinder as their opener. Oh yeah, 510 00:33:52,799 --> 00:33:55,799 this was at the Bank of New Hampshire Pavilion The Lips of an Angel 511 00:33:55,880 --> 00:34:02,319 guy, Yeah, exactly and hit Wonder and but and I still remember like, 512 00:34:02,359 --> 00:34:06,720 as soon as they go into doctor feel Good, I'm just listening to 513 00:34:06,799 --> 00:34:08,719 him He's not even singing half the words. Yeah. But I mean that 514 00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:13,400 was also a tough concert for me because some more on behind me as I 515 00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:16,159 was sitting watching the show, headbanging too hard accidentally head butts me in the 516 00:34:16,199 --> 00:34:20,960 back of the head and gives me a concussion really, so I'm literally like 517 00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:24,599 I felt like somebody had driven like a railroad stake through my head. So 518 00:34:25,199 --> 00:34:29,559 after after Doctor Field Good, me and my dad looked at each other because 519 00:34:29,599 --> 00:34:31,880 like I was about ready to throw up because I had a migraine so bad, 520 00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:36,760 and me and my dad looked at was like that we need to get 521 00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:37,960 out of here, like I'm in a lot of pain. This show is 522 00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:43,480 absolutely terrible and it's just making my headache worse at this point. Yeah. 523 00:34:43,639 --> 00:34:46,000 So, but yeah, that was I have to say that would probably be 524 00:34:46,079 --> 00:34:50,760 the one of the one of the worst, if not the absolute worst show 525 00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:52,760 I've ever seen in my life. And I've been to hundreds of shows. 526 00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:55,119 Yeah, I think that one has to take the cake. Is the worst 527 00:34:55,119 --> 00:34:59,239 show I've ever been to? Yeah? Yeah, Wow. Now do you 528 00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:00,800 guys have a fav for it? In terms of shows that you've played, 529 00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:04,360 Is there one that uh maybe the Metal Church show. I don't know, 530 00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:07,400 is the Metal Church is definitely high up there. But I think when we 531 00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:09,920 played Yeah, Corn and Stained, I think is definitely the one that when 532 00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:13,440 we played at the Bank of New Hampshire Pavilion back in twenty twenty one, 533 00:35:13,519 --> 00:35:15,480 we opened for corn and stain on the on the hazy little stage. Oh 534 00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:21,280 wow, and that one was wild. It was, I mean, so 535 00:35:21,599 --> 00:35:27,159 it was it was very hot outside. Oh wait, no that oh it 536 00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:29,880 was raining. I'm sorry, I'm confusing the other one from twenty nineteen. 537 00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:31,800 But yeah, it was rainy. It was cold because this was in the 538 00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:37,159 beginning of October because they had to ropon because John did They've just got COVID. 539 00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:40,960 Oh okay, but yeah it was cold and rainy. We played great 540 00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:45,880 the first set and then back before they have all the new stuff at the 541 00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:49,639 Bank of Newmshire Pavilion. They had to change up because there was a lot 542 00:35:49,679 --> 00:35:52,119 of noise complaints coming in, so the local artists would play a second set 543 00:35:52,159 --> 00:35:55,199 after the main show. People were walking out. Yeah, and they didn't 544 00:35:55,199 --> 00:35:59,239 walk out, they just stayed and they were on They were jumped up on 545 00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:02,159 stage as we were playing. Yeah, security I had to start pulling people 546 00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:07,119 like they pulled Scrill. They pulled security from the main stage to our stage 547 00:36:07,119 --> 00:36:09,880 because we had people who were like rushing on our stage, like like jumping 548 00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:14,039 off the stage and stuff like that. Like security actually had to pull them 549 00:36:14,119 --> 00:36:17,400 off. It was very wild. It was probably one of the most lively 550 00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:21,320 st crowds, if not the liveliest crowd we've ever played too. But it 551 00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:23,760 was just so great. Oh wow, that was the energy we try to 552 00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:27,519 strive for it at our shows. It was so perfect. Is there any 553 00:36:27,599 --> 00:36:30,000 video of that? Do you have any We have the video from like more 554 00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:31,719 of the front of the stage where like there's like the mosh pit going on. 555 00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:37,360 There's like guys Shirtly's fifty degrees in raining out. These guys are shirt 556 00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:40,559 Let's do like a mosh pit stuff. That's what. Yeah, in the 557 00:36:40,639 --> 00:36:44,880 background, and you can see probably a little bit more Brian than me, 558 00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:49,920 but I remember like looking back, if you guys, don't hit my amplifier. 559 00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:52,079 Yeah no, And this is what I mean. It's just like it's 560 00:36:52,159 --> 00:36:55,960 like I'm looking at him like this is great, but I think we should 561 00:36:57,000 --> 00:37:00,360 probably get this guy off of here. It's funny because it's like it's a 562 00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:07,599 pleasant excitement, but obviously history, history of reliability and huge Yeah, yeah, 563 00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:10,920 no doubt, no doubt. Wow. Now, so what is the 564 00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:16,000 songs that were playing today? We played the murder song and we're gonna We're 565 00:37:16,039 --> 00:37:20,360 gonna close in a few minutes with the other one that I absolutely love But 566 00:37:20,679 --> 00:37:22,000 are these on are these part of an album that? Yeah, I've been 567 00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:25,440 second album Vindicated Vindicated. Okay, when did that come out? So we 568 00:37:25,559 --> 00:37:30,239 released that back in July twenty ninth of twenty twenty two. Yeah, that 569 00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:36,639 was we actually took advantage of the pandemic and we still got together. We 570 00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:38,320 took it. We took the time when we weren't playing. We wrote the 571 00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:43,719 album, we recorded it, and that was when we ended up releasing it. 572 00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:46,480 So we stayed productive during that whole time. Okay. Yeah. Oh 573 00:37:46,639 --> 00:37:51,039 by the way, Bruce from Legion of Sola says, I remember that show. 574 00:37:51,159 --> 00:37:54,360 I was in your mash no I love it. He was there. 575 00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:58,199 Yeah, yes, that's awesome. Yeah, that's very cool, very cool. 576 00:37:59,559 --> 00:38:04,360 Are you working on new materials? We're debuting a brand new song from 577 00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:07,239 the next album. Well, two new songs. Well, we've played. 578 00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:10,199 We played one of the new songs that we had at porch Fest in Rochester 579 00:38:10,519 --> 00:38:15,880 last year a two year ago. Okay, so we haven't like actually put 580 00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:17,079 it on an album. But yeah, we have a brand new song that 581 00:38:17,159 --> 00:38:22,880 we have never played live before that we are debuting next Thursday at the Bank 582 00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:25,400 of New Hampshire Pavilion. So if you guys this Thursday right next, well, 583 00:38:27,039 --> 00:38:29,159 I mean we're still in the current week, so I sailed caught next 584 00:38:29,199 --> 00:38:32,800 Thursday one Sunday comes around, then I say this, so yeah, next 585 00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:38,559 Thursday we'll be debuting. I don't forget the words. It's always an interesting 586 00:38:38,559 --> 00:38:42,119 to take, Like the first time singing a song, I sing and play 587 00:38:42,159 --> 00:38:45,760 at the same time. It's always a matter of like walking in chewing gum 588 00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:49,039 at the same time, you know, playing and keeping track of everything all 589 00:38:49,119 --> 00:38:52,280 together. And why does that ever happen live where you forget the words on 590 00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:54,400 occasion? Yeah, yeah, as long as I mean. So my thing 591 00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:58,800 at banfractice and it drives fine, No, it's actually drives my wife not 592 00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:02,320 too fine. And so I do one ons when I can't remember what when, 593 00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:09,440 Yeah, and I'll do an entire song. And if you can imagine 594 00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:14,119 hearing you have six minute song with that wanas going through it, and that's 595 00:39:14,119 --> 00:39:17,000 all right, that's how you're you're scattered. And with that, I mean, 596 00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:20,360 I mean, this is why I always look at the drummer. I'm 597 00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:22,719 like, I hope you got enough sticks so you can huck one at her. 598 00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:25,920 Right. There's been a lot of projectiles. It's quite quite hilarious. 599 00:39:27,519 --> 00:39:29,679 But I've never done a one on, not at a show. I've always 600 00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:32,639 okay, if anything, I would just like repeat a vose or something I 601 00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:36,440 can. I'm never doing this long enough. I can kind of catch myself. 602 00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:38,519 I know when I've messed up, but uh, you know I've recovered 603 00:39:38,599 --> 00:39:43,760 pretty quick. Yeah, say when playing guitoy it's like you learned to recover 604 00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:47,599 pretty quick. And this is where like I try to stay focused on my 605 00:39:47,679 --> 00:39:51,199 playing as far as and like, because like if I'm looking out next thing, 606 00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:52,360 you know, I'm spacing out and I'm hitting the wrong note, I'm 607 00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:54,400 like, oh wait a minute, I got to recenter myself. So this 608 00:39:54,519 --> 00:39:58,320 is why every time I'm playing, I'm literally looking at my finger so I 609 00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:01,159 don't get lost. Because lead singer and you'll never space out, trust me. 610 00:40:01,559 --> 00:40:05,679 There's too many things going on time. You got a lot to keep 611 00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:08,440 track of. Oh yeah, absolutely, you know it's we Also, the 612 00:40:08,519 --> 00:40:12,280 one song would be one of our cover songs, actually one of the few 613 00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:15,079 songs I can sing and actually play guitars soul at the same time. What 614 00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:19,920 what what song? What do you uh? Pells? By Megadeth? Oh? 615 00:40:20,039 --> 00:40:22,679 Nice? Well, I mean, I take the most of the lead 616 00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:25,440 vocals on that one, so oh okay, but yeah, we're gonna try 617 00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:29,559 to do that when we've done that one before live, but it's been a 618 00:40:29,599 --> 00:40:32,639 while, so we'll be playing that one again live as well. But that's 619 00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:37,480 it's funny because like I know, Anthony does a lot of like he does 620 00:40:37,519 --> 00:40:39,559 all the original vocals and stuff like that. But obviously, like if we're 621 00:40:39,559 --> 00:40:43,719 playing multiple shows in a row, there's gonna be a lot of like vocal 622 00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:45,960 exhaustion. Yeah, I've been able to step up to the plate. It 623 00:40:46,079 --> 00:40:50,639 helps. It gives my throat a little bit of a break when you're playing 624 00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:55,360 sixty minutes ninety minutes the Yeah, you know, we don't sing laid back 625 00:40:55,679 --> 00:40:59,800 just like at all. Yeah, I would. I would say as far 626 00:40:59,880 --> 00:41:02,480 as as our as our repertoire goes, Like I know Anthony sings all of 627 00:41:02,559 --> 00:41:06,559 the originals, I would say I probably sing like maybe ninety five percent of 628 00:41:06,639 --> 00:41:09,039 the covers. Okay, just it just it helps give him a break, 629 00:41:09,199 --> 00:41:15,360 and because I know how the stuff goes. Yeah, fun it last. 630 00:41:15,599 --> 00:41:19,760 Yeah, And I mean, obviously me a little biased because it has one 631 00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:23,639 of the most iconic based openings ever recorded. Yes, and I get to 632 00:41:23,679 --> 00:41:27,800 start the song with that one, so oh that's really cool. And it's 633 00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:31,800 timeless, you know, of course the song is just timeless. What should 634 00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:35,960 people know? We're gonna we're gonna play this other track in a moment when 635 00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:38,679 we when we wrap up, the time goes quickly. But what should people 636 00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:42,840 know about? Where to find you guys online? How to keep up with 637 00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:45,480 everything that you're doing, and and and plug that show that you've got coming 638 00:41:45,519 --> 00:41:47,920 up again to all right, so you can find us online. We we 639 00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:52,440 have our own website, Perging Sin dot com. Uh are. Both of 640 00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:57,400 our albums are available on all streaming services YouTube, Apple Music, Spotify, 641 00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:01,760 Follow us on Facebook, we have a we have an Instagram. We're trying 642 00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:07,559 to grow at Purging Underscore Sin, and we will be in Our next show 643 00:42:07,679 --> 00:42:10,639 is going to be at the Bank of New Hampshire Pavilion on the Hazy Little 644 00:42:10,679 --> 00:42:16,000 Stage, which is the side stage as you walk through the front entrance before 645 00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:21,599 God Smack, Nothing More and Flat Black. We go on at six pm. 646 00:42:22,039 --> 00:42:24,119 Excellent. Yeah, that's that's a big deal. Congratulations on that. 647 00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:29,559 That's very cool. We'll also on Bands in Town and Viva Nation that also 648 00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:34,679 gives a list of upcoming shows in sequential order in locations. Okay, okay, 649 00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:37,480 excellent, and before we play this, Hell on the Horizon. And 650 00:42:37,559 --> 00:42:39,639 by the way, like I said, I love this song, but just 651 00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:43,880 just quickly give us the backstory for people who are just joining us, give 652 00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:45,960 us a backstory one more time on this. So I saw it, started 653 00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:52,079 writing it prior to Brian entering in the band. I knew the original title 654 00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:58,159 was from Triumph to Tragedy. It was about someone trying to come from another 655 00:42:58,199 --> 00:43:01,159 country to America to get a better life. And I kind of twist things 656 00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:06,079 up. They see the Statue of Liberty and their boats things for whatever reason, 657 00:43:06,159 --> 00:43:08,400 and they round. Yeah, so like you're getting so closed. But 658 00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:10,599 then you know Hell's on the horizon, you just don't know it yet. 659 00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:15,320 Yeah, And unfortunately became like symbolic for Matt Harrisk that Hell was on the 660 00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:19,920 horizon. We just didn't know we had cancer either. Yeah, And that 661 00:43:20,119 --> 00:43:23,440 was the first song Brian ever contributed. You know. I showed him that 662 00:43:23,559 --> 00:43:25,920 the little bridge section and he's like, well, I made this can I 663 00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:30,119 fitted in and we ended up fitting it and he sorted you know, that 664 00:43:30,199 --> 00:43:34,760 was like the first four A into him, you know, contributing to Purge 665 00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:37,000 and Sin. Yes, so it's so it's the first song I was actually 666 00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:42,840 featured on is and so the the clean part of the Little Basin Elude. 667 00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:44,920 It was something I was just messing around with. I thought it was kind 668 00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:47,559 of neat, and uh, we were able to work it in and then 669 00:43:47,639 --> 00:43:51,880 obviously too, as we mentioned previously in the show, it's the last song 670 00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:57,440 that Matt Harris actually ever recorded with us before he passed away. The It's 671 00:43:57,440 --> 00:44:00,239 funny because like I was trying to suggest a little bit more of a shorter 672 00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:04,199 kind of title for the whole thing. I was just like, because we're 673 00:44:04,199 --> 00:44:05,960 going along with the theme, I was just like, well, why don't 674 00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:07,760 we just say something like Hell's Hell's on the horizon or something like that. 675 00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:12,559 And then that eventually became the title of the song. So, and it 676 00:44:12,639 --> 00:44:15,840 actually was a little bit more of a catcher thing. We actually recorded that 677 00:44:15,039 --> 00:44:19,800 song as a single with a friend of mine from college who runs his own 678 00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:23,239 independent studio I don't know if it still exists, Audio Pond Studios in Francis 679 00:44:23,320 --> 00:44:28,920 Down and he recorded it for us as a favor, and that was kind 680 00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:34,000 of like the first single to actually come off of Vindicated before the murder became 681 00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:37,480 the other single that we released. Oh okay, okay, very good. 682 00:44:37,719 --> 00:44:40,280 So we're gonna play this and Anthony and Brian thank you guys so much. 683 00:44:43,039 --> 00:44:45,400 We love absolutely wonderful to have you here. I love what you're doing, 684 00:44:45,559 --> 00:44:49,920 love the sound, and like I said, I absolutely love this song. 685 00:44:50,519 --> 00:44:52,920 If you are listening live on Saturday morning, sick around. We've got Tom 686 00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:57,719 Russo coming up next in the third hour, but we'll finish off this hour 687 00:44:57,800 --> 00:45:00,239 with this. This is Hell on the Horizon Purgings Zen