It's the Lapsed Fan Wrestling podcast with Jack and carn s e O and JP
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It was WrestleMania XL, but it was also TLF XL. Was it
not almost to TLF Triple XL in many ways? And we thought what better
way to come off the high of TLF taking the stage and ripping Philadelphia a
new asshole on WrestleMania forty weekend, than to open up the mail bag to
kick back and chill with our favorite people, boss, the members of the
Lapsed Fan Solar SS. I think that's very appropriate. I mean, they
are nearer and dearer to our hearts than ever before after Philly, totally,
no question. I mean, just postgame thoughts if you could. I mean,
number one, it's a it's a wild ride just to see as many
people show up as did for the live show, but then to have everybody
else like show up for all these other things and and to uh, you
know, just to see people at WrestleMania who weren't at the show. You
know, that's the wild thing. To see people at at at at at
con Con who weren't at the show. That's where it gets really trippy.
If you ask con by the way, that's a good one that it is.
They they came for the wrestling, they stayed for the reality. Damn
fucking straight, they did. And we said what had to be said.
Yes, and those in the room know exactly what we're talking about. It's
been a long time since we've heard unalloyed lapsed, Vince, and for good
reason. Yes, I think now people realize why, and I think people
realize as well that when the co chairmen take the stage for a live experience,
it's it's gonna feel like the old days where all you have are your
memories. Yes, you know, you can't you can't count on being able
to pull up exactly you know what was said, but you can count on
remembering what it felt like to experience it, which is all we have when
we go on the fucking ground anyway, That's damn right. And it was
just it was wild. It was an absolutely wild time. It was.
It was full of twists and turns. It was so much more like demanding.
There was a point in time we're just walking Philly, no clue where
we're going. I have ecw A Rena directions on my phone, but they're
driving directions and I think it's ten minutes away, and then you point out,
hey, those are not the walking directions, it's actually an hour away.
Why is the thing moving so slowly? Why has it been Why has
it been nine minutes for like fifteen minutes, been nine minutes away for a
half hour. Yeah, that's right. Just from those lows to the absolute
highs of people just exploding at the the notion that we're spitting the truth.
We were spitting that's part of wrestling any weekend, just tip hat tipped everybody.
Absolutely, it was. It was a tremendous experience. I would like
to note too that I still have a somewhat swollen uvula. Oh do you
really that that that is gone down? Nope? Nope. Uh, but
my dad did talk to doctor Tom Fazzio. Oh Jesus, now we're talking
about real advice, right, all right, we're talking big time here,
and he, you know, he said that it could take several days before
it goes down fully. Wow. But yeah, all week, all week.
I had it all week. It was like it was ridiculous. It
was absolutely ridiculous, Like what the fuck? The absolutely I thought you could
never have to experience the feeling of waking up on show morning on a live
spoken word stage show and you know, not being able to talk. Yeah,
is that a first for you? I mean, have you ever had
that on a stage show or No, never had it on on on the
day of a show. Literally, its only happened one Thanksgiving is when it
happened where I couldn't you know, I couldn't speak, and I just I
didn't even know what it was the time. I just was like, there's
this fucking thing my throat that is preventing me from speaking. I'm choking on
it at times, and you know, I was horrified that first time I
had it. But now now I get it. Now it happens. Now
it's real, So now it's a risk fact, yes exactly. A hearty
shout out to Punchline Philly, to Rake Amster, all of our stand up
comic friends. Thanks to Postal for his surprise appearance wrapping the t theme song
live on stage. Could have been a better sport about it. Unbelievable stuff.
And shout out to Garage Beer for lacing all attendees with the first round
on the house. Love it, It's feeling good, It's feeling TLF.
That's appropriate. Oh yeah, and long may it continue. We've only just
begun here, of course, in our ten year celebrations, and then much
more to come from the wonderful members of the Solar System who are working in
all manner of initiatives to make it real and make you feel it. And
of course the mailbox remains wide open for your TLFX testimonials, which we've been
posting as they've been coming in and as the quality screener determines. Yep.
So you know, grab your audio recorder, grab your phone and record an
audio messages you've been hearing drop regularly on the feed and tell us why it
is. If you were to explain to a stranger that tlf has been around
for ten years and what it means to you and why it's the cast that
just you know, you just can't shake and look, we cast. We
don't know anything else. Yep. That's what we offer to you. It's
either enough or it isn't. Yep. But we do very much appreciate folks
letting us know where we fit into their routines, where we fit into their
lives, and how it can be better. It's a remarkable thing to see
it made manifest with so many friendly faces and you know, spouses and significant
others and sisters. You know, that's a wild thing too. To come
out of doing a show like that and to have the support of women in
the crowd was quite a feeling. Yes we I mean they could be forgiven
and for right rolling their eyes. I'm sure many dip, but they dipped
before we did the sort of show meet and greet. I would imagine there
weren't as many, just one one. I think, just one guy.
Well, I mean there's there's our our regular couple, but then there's the
there was a one. I'm sorry, I can't forget it. I can't
remember his name, but the guy with the sister who was there, who,
yeah, you know she was. That was a riot. That's wonderful
stuff. Yeah, so many, so many faces and big shout outs to
uh to Dicky from Australia who came away with the Terry Funk branding iron Wow,
which we were proud to give away. And I know he was jumping
in the bit to get his hands on. Just it's it's all good,
it's all it's all positivity, it's all right. And you know what,
and you know what, Brandon from New Jersey showed up. Oh my goodness,
he was there. The legend he was there. He was there.
It didn't you know. He he nutted up. I saw him. We
shook hands, he tapped up. Yeah, he was in the fray.
He was not like, you know, hanging on the periphery trying to get
noticed. No, but I was, I was. I had my doubts
because I'd heard the day before that he dipped out of doing something else for
a so called wedding. So I was like, well, you know,
maybe I'm not I'm not buying it yet in person, in person in Philly.
So that's big thanks to the aforementioned Dicky as well. Yes, indeed,
so that's that's huge props there. Yeah, I mean you got to
think about it, pass. I mean, as long as the legend of
Brandon from New Jersey has been built up in your head, you got to
realize. I mean, I've been talking to the guy you know, even
years longer that right exactly, and never met him before. I never met
him before, No, not in person, no, wow. So a
lot of special moments like that. So thanks to everybody who made it possible
and who made it worth it. We're here to crack up in the mail
bag, of course, and it's as good a time as any as I
think a lot of the missives will be sharing with you this week. Attests
to to go over to patreon dot com slash the lapsed fan, to put
your pride to the side and to realize that you know the only reason to
wake up in the morning is to do something that people find enough value and
that they'll pay for it. Absolutely, and you got to keep working til
you find that thing. We found it. Yep, not a problem.
Not a problem. No, no, not at all. And there's so
much in it for you. And if you join now and join the executive
producer and above here, it's a very very special time, is it not
under it's a very special time. We are currently on our our Carneies are
Forever journey with our James Bond deep dive into the franchise into uh you know
how it's impacted. Why is it still around, you know to this day
where we're you know, we're we we we may I believe we. I
don't know if it's been officially announced, but we may have a new James
Bond, uh, you know, taking over the reins and stuff. So
it's really it's a it's an amazing franchise that probably the the longest, the
longest continuous franchise, yes, I would say, in the in the history
of the film business. And uh, it's loaded loaded with carnies. Oh
my goodness, what a fucking unbelieving exploration of the legacy of Peter my Va
on Hall of Fame Weekend where my Va was inducted. No less, Rock
and his family were so celebrated. We you know, the serendipity came through
and we did like the definitive dive I to Go. We did like a
Peter my Va Straight to Your Left tribute show on the main feed. We
sound pretty much like that episode of the Bond series. I would, I
would hope. So that's my goal. That's my goal. Especially when you
have guys that only have one or two major appearances. It's like, you
know, we don't. We don't have much time with these guys in theme.
Otball tremendous to look at his wrestling job whatever you want, Oh he
is an oddball. After all, he was a wrestler. So, oh
my god, you can tell how much I'm retaining here. I know a
little little bits and pieces. It's a lot of information. You know,
we we trace. I'm going to call odd job. It's pretty bad that
It's not a good sign. Hey, the last Saffery either trying to put
together at Chushio Needa versus Dory Funk Junior at Kawaisashi Stadium on Twitter. I
mean, come on is that hashtag lapsed funk? I let the guy fucking
rest Dory is getting blown up. Well, I figure it might as well
give it one more go. You know, Terry used to do it all
the time. I might as well, And I figured it made Terry immortal.
I don't want to die. I made it, made Terry immortal.
I don't want to I don't think that's not what we meant. I don't
think I want to die. I haven't checked lately if that's what I want
to do or if that's what I should do. I do know that that
I am a fan of professional wrestling, and I like to see fans go
round and round, found and wrap. I'll just say this. I'm on
the sentiments Laptovin shared on stage in Philly. I didn't know that anyone was
suffering as a result of my behavior, But if presented with evidence that I
did know, I am very willing to change my mind about what I knew.
What a world we're in now with you know, the Triple H regime
and the Triple H era and Cody winning and you know, you know something
I didn't even know until we know because we were we were you know,
you had your ticket problems on day two. I didn't even realize that Stephanie
came out for that for an intro. I really didn't either. I actually
went back and watched the show on the cock get a sense because a lot
of people were saying that our live call was like, especially on that night
one main event, tag match with The Rock, was kind of off based
on the energy we were feel in our section versus how it came across the
television. Having watched it, I agree, I get it. The crowd
brawling is not as much of a oh it's hard, Well, it's hard.
You know, you can't how do you? I mean, I remember,
I remember, you know the WrestleMania in in in New Jersey that the
last one went to where it was like everybody was there were two things,
two matches that brawled in the crowd though, and it was like, it's
hard to really enjoy that when you can't see close up. I mean,
I would say, you know, those matches are definitely TV oriented, and
you're so looking forward to seeing the Rock and what he has showcased in center
rain right right, and then when he ducks like that, ducks out of
out of view, it's kind of like, okay, like this is you
know, this is them trying to elongate the match because he doesn't have much
more to produce in the ring. He went on to do and well,
we'll get to a lot of the feedback that arrived approximate to WrestleMania. We're
going much further back than that, of course, because the last time we
hit you with the mailback episode has been quite a while. Not quite a
while, but a season has passed, so yeah, we've still got stuff
lapsed funk relevant to go through. But suffice to say, coming off the
thing, it's like and watching it on television as well, that was that
was a tremendous piece of business, the way they put together that Cody Roman
main event with all the run ins and everything. Yes, but I can't
help but feel a little bit of sympathy towards the point of view that like,
really, you couldn't have just done Cody versus Roman, Like what was
all that about? And it was epic, It was awesome. The crowd
went nuts, and people are never going to forget those run ins from seeing
a rock Undertaker, et cetera seth rollins. That that one's a little more
forgettable. But yeah, you know, these are all triggers worth pulling.
And I guess they had Austin and Q and then it, you know,
they couldn't put the deal together, so it was Undertaker instead. I mean
it is you know, I get it. I don't mind. I mean
I think it could have been done better. I think had been done a
little more. Uh, I don't know. It was to me it felt
very segmented, yes, where it could have felt more like the calvarys Ave.
Yeah, you know that would have been they could have it could have
been you know, I never I'll tell you what when when when? Uh
was it Solo who came out? No, No, it was who came
out first, Jimmy j So. So when Jimmy Usso came out that I
didn't feel like Roman was at a point where he needed to be saved,
you know, And that to me was kind of it like I I didn't
I was like, okay, oh, I guess it's going to happen now.
But I wasn't there yet where I was like, to me, as
a fan, I should have I would have hoped that they would have gotten
to the point in a match where I would have forgotten that to expect Runnings
by the Bloodline, where I'm so involved in the match that I am like
I would have I should have been at a moment where I really thought Cody
was gonna win it on his own, you know, like I should have
been at that moment, but it never happened. And that happened when Solo
came in and helped with the super Spear. Yeah yeah, yeah, Well
in the opposite way, I felt that way, right because Cody was in
trouble, right, but I never felt like Roman was like like oh shit,
like we could have had it right there. You know. They clearly
structured it for the pop of each entrance song, and that's you know,
which I'm not pharo criticizing it, but I am sort of thinking, like,
wow, like they really couldn't have just had Cody beat Roman in a
clean match. They really had to do all this because it's eventually people caught
on to this is where they were going with the Bloodline rules. And then
once once fan expectations get there and you lead people to expect this kind of
thing, you do kind of have to deliber it. You don't have to,
but I think that's what's going to be different in the Triple A regime
versus the Vince regime is if the fans kind of you know, start to
detect something and start to demand it and start to count on it psychologically,
He's going to give it to him. Yeah, even if even if it
isn't necessarily in keeping with where he sees things going long term. And I
think that, you know, that could have some drawbacks. We'll see,
but for the most part, you know, if you've got people going nuts
and a sold out building, it's you can't argue with that. No,
I'm sort of like, well, then what is ever going to be enough
if the way they build up Cody Robin isn't enough to just have it clean
one on one like everything's so it's like they kind of have to though.
It's like, remember it's a rematch. It's not even the first time they
ever they ever wrestled, So it's like we had that pretty much until the
end when Solo came in and and and waffled Cody last year. So it's
like, I don't know, I I'm I'm fine with it. I I
will say this, I think the one thing that really that really uh kind
of I thought about afterwards. Is I forget who wrote about it. I
think it was on on On on Patreon, who says, someone said,
you're gonna tell me that these guys are just kind of waiting back there for
this to all kind of go down. That's what I mean. Yeah,
they structured that. That would have been It would have been more interesting.
I think it would have been. I mean, granted kind of gives it
away, but it would have been nice to maybe know that these guys were
in town at least, like maybe Sena made an appearance. You didn't have
to be at WrestleMania per se, but we could have known that he was
there. I don't take us a little bit different because he's undertaker, and
you know he's supposed to be. I don't get if you knew they were
there, what does that solve? Well, if I knew that John Cena
was there, if I saw that John Cena was there WrestleMania weekend, I
would know that he's there and that he's probably in the back watching and wondering
what's going on. It's too much for you, is the thought that he
would fly out secretly just in case he was needed, right exactly, Yeah,
interesting, exactly I kind of you know, they were saying this,
and they didn't drive it home as hard as I would have expected. But
the message of the Seth you know, a Cody alliance was that we need
to save WWE from the iron grip of the Bloodline and like it's in it's
in way more than just our personal interests to see to it that the bloodline
doesn't just totally run this company and call all the shots. And so the
idea was that I think that veterans of the past would also see the wisdom
in that and think, you know, we can't have a situation where Roman
just consolidates so much power that he never gets knocked off the throne and no
one ever you know what I mean. But they didn't really tell that story.
It was just right just ended up being pops for the entrance, because
that could have been the thing too. I mean, maybe you don't even
show them that they're there. Maybe you just like you could have had you
know, how come you they didn't go and get you know, legends like
Sena Undertaker or whomever doing promos like even just like doing doing like Yeah,
that's that was what I was saying. They they opted for the version of
this where the entrance gets the massive pop instead of the version where they still
could have gone the massive pop it. You know, if you had,
if you had enough legends the surprise just said the surprise, it would have
been a massive pop. I mean the surprise like they This regime is clearly
marks for entrance music playing when no one expects to be there. But you
still could have done that if you over over the weeks leading up to WrestleMania,
like every week you had two or three legends, like cutting a video
from home, like saying you know what I I you know, I got
to agree like Cody that you know this, or even disagreeing too, like
you could have guys disagreeing and how co who that had been of? Like
you know, mckpholis says, well, you know, I'm kind of down
with the the uh, the bloodline. They're fine by me. You know,
interesting, interesting have offun seek a fucking do something. You've seen Sammy
out there too, I mean he came out for the Cody celebration, but
he had more story than anybody in terms of breaking the Bloodlin's iron grip,
right exactly like that could have been. That would have been a great thing
too to kind of see him come out so interesting. Interesting, interesting that
one of the last things we saw was really the last grand entrance of WrestleMania
forty, was Triple H walking down the Red. Of course, I I
don't know if I'm ready for this. I don't think I realized the uh,
the implications of him having the book in terms of, like, we
always have to see him as a creator. Oh yeah, he's always judging
his way into the frame. It's getting it's gonna get old real quick.
Instead of erased to care about the guys winning and losing matches, not the
director, Like, nope, you care about the booker, the the writer,
the chief creative content explorer as far as I know, and I didn't
pay very close attention. Remember they promoted that documentary during the show about how
they put this whole thing together and how they pivoted hasn't aired yet. Something
in that, something in there. The Rock doesn't like about the narrative.
We wo who wha whoa whoa whoa whoa WOA turn us down right, you
know what I mean? Oh god, I love it. They let the
narrative battles begin to Yeah, really really, Dwayne and Paul is. It
is a new era, but it's the Dwayne era. Let's not forget that.
Okay, well, yeah, it's the Paul like running doing most of
the busy work until Dwayne decides like, actually, actually I'm gonna take credit
for this one. This Wayne's Vince McMahon totally. He could just dig put
in and just totally reshape all the creative based on what would make him feel
like he's achieved something that's never been done before. That's that's that's the way
to talk to Rock Ust to have the thing, talk to Evince. That's
how you talked to Rock like this is here's here's the case. Here are
the four PowerPoint slides of how what you're about to do is never been done
better or bigger, And that's that's the thing, and we'll never be done
again. Yeah of course, right, let's shut that down too. Well,
a fascinating weekend and thanks to social Semian. Thanks. I need to
give a big shout out to Dave and Todd Martin too for massive oh fuck
yes, logistical assistance. I mean to get out of that fucking place after
those shows. Without them, I don't know how we would have done it.
We would still be walking down out free or I'd still be at least
passed out someplace. Yeah, you have the chance to take a down like
I was. So you know, after every night, I'm like I was
done. I was so fucking done, And I was like, you know,
I always feel like I'm being I was. They're very very gracious because
I feel like it's rude to just kind of fall asleep, but I couldn't
help it. I was just so done. Well, it's better than fall
asleep during the show, which we saw for the New Japan one. Yeah,
they got to chuckle out of that story about it. Did you tell
them? Man, that's really funny. Think, Oh my god, that's
hilarious. Ask you a question, boss, Yes, was it cold enough
in those seats? I mean Financial Field. That's the only reason why didnt
fall asleep because I couldn't. I was it was freezing like it's inappropriate,
honestly, and it should be borderline April, it really was. I mean,
just to have just what the fuck is going on in Philadelphia where the
wind is that cold? Well, your your sky high in and open your
air stadium too. I don't remember being that cold in fucking New Jersey.
My god, I wore short New Jersey. That was a beautiful week that
show. Yeah, but still like I guess yeah. Last year was our
firstwo night Wrestlelingia went it, but because the two nighter hurts a little more
in terms of the like, oh god, and I didn't want even want
to go. I was like that second night fucking wake me up. I
was out fucking Benadryl knocking me out, so I can fucking speak Jesus Christ.
That's this is legendary. It was all legendary, but we fucking can't
win. We move forward, and we turn the aperture, We turn the
spotlight where belongs on the solar system. Because as big as fans as you
are of us, we're bigger fans of you, and that is that continues
to be. We love all of our children, yes, okay, and
that continues to be reinforced every single time. So we dip into the mailbag
and we look to uh Ronaldi, who writes, I've learned this is back
in the lapsed Funk days that Dory Funk Junior son is a doctor that goes
by Dink Funk the third Doctor Dink Funk, I am doctor Dink Funk.
The third I do. I appreciate that statement. I do go by doctor
Dink. Sometimes I go by doctor Funk some guy. Sometimes I go by
doctor Dunk. Sometimes I go by doctor Fink. It doesn't really matter which
way goes. I'm really not a doctor legally speaking, and I do find
my practice is to be very dangerous in terms of medical conditioning. I believe
he said, and I'm correct me if I'm wrong in me simply saying his
son's name is Dan Funk. I believe he says in response, I appreciate
that statement, the statement being at he has son and doctor dan Funk.
The fact I appreciate that statement. I didn't say good, I didn't say
you're wonderful. It is said nothing that we could be appreciated. I stated
a fact. And speaking of stating facts, by the way, before we
get too far off Patreon, we were fucking rocking on behalf of paying customers
on. Yeah, I'm really proud of the ship we pulled off on the
ground out there. You know, when when we get on the ground together
like that, we just can't help. But doing a bit of an audio
diary for the patrons, and and oftentimes uploading, weird uploading, weird ass
ship in weird going to damn straight paying admission to get into an old lady
Stamp convention so we can walk around and try to observe the architecture. And
the woman looking at you, you guys know this is a stamp collection reference,
right, and she's like, you know that, we don't. You
know, it's not you know, it's it's stamps. It's not fun.
And I gave some off. I'm still like crams when I think about it.
Some awful mealy mouthful. Actually, I don't know if you guys know,
but wrestleman, he's in town. They shoot TV in this building and
so you know, and she's looking at me like, okay, oh this
is stamps, right, they call the security. Do they shoot? Did
they shoot stamps in the building as well? Guess what we're doing. I
mean they take television in there for like, you know, fifteen years,
and there's nothing. They have a whole like mural on the front entrance to
ag Hal of all the stuff that you know from the agricultural Fair over the
years, a huge montage photos and clippings. Nothing about that. I don't
know. They want to forget about it. They want to not acknowledge that
it exists. Well, we're able to go to a restaurant that all the
wrestlers used to go to after doing the tapings called Ringers Roots, and interviewed
the proprietor there, Amaron don And you got to check that out on Patreon.
That was a trip to be a wild that room of his restaurant where
he's got all the autographed Carney pictures up and some real cool keepsakes, and
just the he's one of those guys, you know, he'll just like you
talk to him for twenty minutes and he'll name thirty five people that he's met,
you know, and that's he just goes and goes and goes and goes.
Oh yeah, one time, Arnold Scolland was in here, yep,
yep here, So I had nothing to do with him, but he was
in here, I hear. And then he introduces us to Jerry Sagg's mom
and sister. What the fuck is going on? What is this? What
is this lie life? Oh Jesus Christ. And of course we brought cash
for Carnei's to the table. Don't ever say we don't put your Patreon dollar
back into the show. Uh, you greased our palms so we could grease
theirs and get time with the likes of Ahmed Johnson and Earl Hebner, who
I got to ask the burning Montreal question to from Jeohn Michael's book, longtime
fan will know what I'm talking about. We talked to Robert Gibson from The
Rock and Roller, Robert Gibson insisting that the the if the Crockett name is
would be legendary at Greensboro, call Sam, which we know it is not
right, Yes, that was you know, helpfuls realize you know, because
because we have this shared vocabulary over ten years on this show, and because
we have these things that only lapsed fan listeners would these things come to mind
when you say a wrestler's name because of our history. Right, We've done
jokes, we've done bits, we've done things. You've gone as you're referenced
into the Greensboro Coliseum and asked if anybody knows who Jim Crockett is, and
no one knows who the fuck he is in the building, that any wrestling
fan of that area would tell you he's like his name echoes like some sort
of giant legend no one knew who the fuck he was. And for us
to get five minutes with Robert Gibson which turned into fifteen once it got started.
Of course, of course, always the way, only for us,
uniquely for us, Is it worth it to have that little bit of time
because we can set up stuff from the show. Yes, we can ask
Kevin Sullivan about shoveling snow and it's already worth it. Yes, exactly.
We can ask on Met Johnson about whether he takes it personally that the Rock
called himself the People's champion, or what he actually said when he would get
intense the toy Fu's toy and get confirmation what he was saying. For anybody
else, five minutes of these guys at a Restaican is not worth it for
us, It's worth twenty times. And that he's eating a fucking Jimmy Dean,
you know, a sausage, egg and cheese breakfast sandwich. The powers
of observation by the Boss there on full display. Cash for Carney's Baby coming
to a town near you. You're better watch that next convention, oh my
god, because we'll be asking just incredible about you know, how they thought
it was funny that he was Portuguese. Just incredible, man, you talk
about a reality chat oohs him to hope he thrives. But I know that's
all I can think about all weekend when people kept out about ECW Nostalgiams Philly,
Yep, how about that? What do you think about the downfall of
just incredible? And maybe if you keep donating to the cause, Solar System
members, maybe one day we'll be able to afford saboos price Because you want
to ask him about you want to ask about Black Narcissus and talking about that,
who was gonna ask him about black narcissts. It's like so telling you
you know your I know your uncle. You know you got the name Saboo
from the actor Saboo. Now, now what was his favorite man? And
I know it's like, oh, it was the the Thief of bag Dad
or whatever the fuck? Okay, did he ever watch Black Narcissus? Did
you ever watch that one about the nuns? Amazing and the sexual tension with
the nuns? Oh, but there's a white narcissist right here, Lex Luger
and his reel chair, which I was weird aot it should be a pro
I didn't know, but maybe next time. And Jim Duggan, if you
don't know, very rarely he does podcast. That's right, We're told,
that's right. Big loss there, Yeah for him. Tough guy. All
right, why don't you go ahead and share this missive from Steve Funker My
Tail of Lapsom Greeting's CoA Chairs. My Tail of Lapsom is one as old
as time. I'll describe myself as a as Thrice. Lapsed first time,
beginning in nine ninety three when I started getting hair on my crotch and the
product was pissed poor wait your crotch product or at the customers. Okay.
Then back in the groove around the time of Bad Blood, which took place
in my home base of Saint Louis. Around then I became a rabbit fan,
found ECW and still hold memories from ninety seven through two thousand and two
or so, very dear. I lapsed again in two thousand and two as
things weren't quite the same without ECW around, plus I finally started giving regular,
plus I started getting regular pussy. I clawed my way back around for
one nice stand and the subsequent ECW reboot, but found the WWECW was not
for me, unsurprisingly, and lapsed again. I'm lapsed to this day,
though I still watch the pl s and stay relatively current with the goings on
so goings on, so maybe not so much. I've never really lapsed in
terms of the nostalgia. I stumble on something to Wrestle early on, and
was a loyal listener to the Conrad Cast and still am to some degree.
But since Bruce has to tow the company line and Jr. Only gets excited
about Alpha males and barbecue sauce, I found myself wanting more. I kept
reading about this thing called the lapsed fan. Hey that's me, I thought
to myself. But who are these guys and why the fuck do I want
to listen to them talk about Survivors Series eighty eight or seven hours. As
you know by now, I didn't want to listen to anything I fucking needed
to on that topic. Can we just shout the following from the fucking rooftops.
The podcast is seven hours, because that's how long it fucking takes.
They laugh at their own jokes because they're fucking funny. Now that's now,
that that's out of the way, the truth is I don't have all that
much time to listen to podcasts these days, I'm a single father with shared
custody of two young children brother, I have a demanding job that I can
rarely cast during, and I no longer commute to the office, so the
time that time is gone, I still have over three hundred episodes in my
backlock. Oh yeah, hear this, like after we're all dead and who
knows if I ever will get to them. For two years, I have
used this as a poor excuse for not tithing, and I am so very
ashamed of being such a bitch because my need is not about the volume of
content TLF provides. My need is deeper than that. It's because I am
depressed because I miss my kids. It's because if I am depressed, oh
oh, it's because if oh sorry, It's because if I am depressed,
thank you, uh, I depressed about because I miss my kids or have
had a rough day at work, TLF can turn me around. It's because
if I'm busy on a weekend with one of the multitude of house jaws or
repairs, I have TLF in my ears and deep up my ass to get
me through it with a fucking smile. What it all boils down to is
that I if I was about this podcast, it would affect me emotionally.
As Vince would say, you put smiles on faces. It's not the only
podcast I listened to, but it's the only one that fucking matter. I
devoured the Lamentable Tragedy ahead of the Iron Claws release. I can't wait to
learn more about the Funks than I ever thought I needed to know. The
Teenage Journey was a fucking phenomenon, and I gobbled it up despite my having
never watched more than five minutes of TNA in my life. Welcome TNA,
by the way. I know, all of a sudden TNA was really hot.
And why all of a sudden people talking about TNA again? They brought
the name back. It seemed like their pay per views were doing relatively well
all of a sudden, It's like, what changed? Oh, I don't
know, I don't know what it could have been last year? Will hold
him? TNA Wichill Holgan makes a come back there too, why's that happen?
I am actually really bummed that he didn't come out to stop Roman from
beating his rain. I mean, that would have been better than than than
undertaking it was the lamest final. Yeah, you know what the gong wasn't
we gotta pop and even got a pop from me. I will admit that
evidence saying because it's like, you know, but the glass shattering or real
American playing would have been so much fucking and it makes sense like in the
dorm room when he attacked Rock and Pine two. Yes, exactly exactly.
I want you to know, by the way, and I don't appreciate this.
I've been walking around, you know, in my own head since we
since we went to Philly doing the Roman Reign song. But I mean everywhere.
I don't know why it's in my head. Hold on, I get
it now, I gotta. I gotta ask you to do it. I'm
just saying I have to now, now I have to. I mean it's
like, you know, Roam and he's like standing on the apron looking at
the ceil. Yeah, he knows the head of the here. He is
the head of the head of the tabla, the head of the tableau.
Oh fuck off and your commercial brother calling to ju last jukebox, kim In
King, Timmy, Gimmy Timmy King, kim Bean Men, Ray stem Row
Men, ra where's Ben y phanoma pat phenomena phanomen trible g I think Roll
Ray particular podcast, Rollman Race. He's doing this live in the building.
Men ras kN king king kN king kank king, Rollman Rains. He just
lifts the belt in the apron and you go Roo ra row men rain Rawmans.
That's my wrestlemanium. There it is right there. You want to talk
about setting anyway, continue with Steve better than sucking, you know Roman Empire,
that old one. Yes, it's true, it is better. But
that's a good yes one that I would make my make teal left my first
and only Patreon purchase. Woof Boss do the thing hit takes this music one
more time for I don't have it. I don't have that loaded up I
would have, but it was this gem I have transcribed below that truly puts
me over the edge. Lapscribes feel free to use this as you please Episode
three twenty four Bash to be ninety five for the universe. I direct you
to timestamp two fifty two, and if you have the time, I would
humbly ask Jack to read this back as only he can, and I quote
as j JP comes like a fucking infernal to the ring to do battle with
Rick Flair, holding as Jack so aptly indicates, a fistful of slim juice
in his hand. Are you gonna do You're gonna do? Okay, you're
gonna do it? Good for everybody, everyone needing a snack? Telling you
right now, I got no chips, I got nothing else, but I
do have some little slivers of meat. Here we go handing out the sweaty
meat here at Bash at the beach, sweaty sticks of beef cured beef.
You know what I mean. Here we go, smoky, sweaty cured beef.
Uh huh? You like it? I like it. I'm feeling that
shit. Everybody wants a piece of the slim Gym slim jims Bash at the
beach. Oh yeah, fucking feel it sticking up your ax fan. Uh
huh, I'm digging it. I like it. I like it. Everyone
wants a slim gym, Rick Flair, Do you want a slim jym.
Here we are, you and I getting it on one on one, savage
actual, go for it, swim gym for everybody. Everybody need telling you
right now, I got no chips, I got nothing else, but I
do have some little slippers of meat. Here we go, hain't and out
the sweaty meat here at bash at the beach, sweaty sticks of beef cured
beef. You know what I mean? Here we go, smoky, sweaty
cured beef. Uh huh. I like it. I like it. I'm
feeling that shit. Everybody wants a piece of the slim gym. Slim Jim's
bashit the beach. Oh yeah, fucking feel it stickingn berrass fans. Uh
huh. I'm bigger than I like it. I like it. Everybody wants
a slim gym, rick Fire, Do you want a slim gym? Here?
You are? You and I getting it on one one. I don't
many disrespect, not trying to get in front of you, but here I
go. I got an extra pair of slim jeons. You want one,
You and your lady in the back can go back Nile on a slim gym
after the match. Not trying to force anything on yell right before we get
it done. But I just won't offer you something saying here as a moment
to break kay fabite for the fans, You and me sharing a gym.
A slim gym won't two three I'm digging it. Here we go, get
it on flair. I'm looking at you right in now, white eye,
man, the man. What do you want? What do you want?
What are we doing? Where are we gonna go from here? What's the
next STEPA? I'm looking at the kingdom of the match. It's filled with
slim gems. You know what I mean? Hey, we're fucking I just
say it. I don't know it out looking out of the window. Slim
gym. You could chain of the gems. I get a you got a
chain of you got a chain of gyms. I got a chain of slim
gems. Weren't all the same thing? Good, keep good. One is
about exercise and the other one is about exercising. You're right to eat sweetest,
sweaty, smoked, cured and meat. It's sweaty. You're never gonna
think of slim Jim is the same again, if you think of them as
sweaty, just slightly damp. You know I'm doing you right now. These
slim gyms have been out in the sun a long time. Give us the
only reason why they're a little damp aut right, They're not want you know,
I'm not saying they're bad they got them, purchase them today, all
right, expires in two weeks. We got two weeks to eat these.
But they've been outside. There's no place for us to go inside right now,
so they might be a little sweaty. I'm a little bit of that,
you know, if you will, condensation, you know, you know
what I'm talking about. All right, Oh now, I don't mean any
disrespect, not trying to pull anything over on you, on you fans,
on your announcers, on anybody, on everybody who's snacking on a slim gym
right now. Now, what I'm trying to do, I'm here. I'm
here being honest. I'm telling you the way that it is. The macho
main Randy Savage got these sl gyms this morning at the hotel. Here they
are right now, Uh huh. They might be a little bit sweaty.
You know, they've been out in the sun for a little while. You
know, it's a hot day here on Huntington Beach. What are you gonna
do with that slim jet You're gonna eat it good, They're gonna you're gonna
take it. You're gonna snap into it. I don't know that's up to
you right not my place to tell you what to do. You are your
own people out there. What I am suggesting is that not you. That
you all understand. Right now, slim gym is presenting Bash at the Beach.
Bash at the Beach, the number I want to show, the summer
biggest party, the place where you're gonna take the meat. You're gonna eat
the meat, You're gonna shove it up your ass. You're gonna take it
in your hands like I I got mice Jim, and I'm gonna shoot it
off to FA. I mean, talk about a tour to fours, talk
about tlf AX right, Holy shit, holy shit. I think my favorite
is when he says, I'm telling you the way that it is, macho
man, Randy Savage got these sling drids this morning at the hotel. That's
the way that it is. I don't know you want Yeah, it makes
sense to me. How does Steve conclude now if that isn't worth my three
sixteen every month and nothing is also, Come on, people don't be like
me. He's thirty eight dollars a year. You know what else? I
pay thirty eight dollars a year for fucking dishwasher, booster powder, rock salt
from my driveway cheese. It's get your wallets out and do what's right.
Thank you for making my life just a little bit better every week. Thank
you for Holkamania, and thank you for filling my oozing filth chasm. Yes,
for always invading a hole that was at one time alone and empty,
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Terry Funk's the state sal do you know the rest? I kept it here
because I'm not sure I know because stands of course from Yeah, but is
there an episode where he gets John voyce Leberon that's something. Yeah, yeah,
he gets his he get gets his fucking car. It's really he may
and if I remember correctly, I don't even think he ended up being John
Void John Vote. It think's like some of the random clown named John Void
or something like that. I could be wrong. Maybe that's what they think,
or I don't rememb It's been a while since I seeen in the episode,
but I do get the reference. Scott Michael Ferry. I really hate
to do this to you guys and t all of us in Solar System,
but if the Boss really wants another shot at being able to dive deep into
legendary Peter Falk, he was once in a movie where Rena Lesnar is Rena
Merrow had a role as a female bouncer. That film defeated Zi Corky Romano.
Oh fuck, well, let's put on the list. I don't know
that is absolutely, but if Reena is in it, it counts. Yes.
DJ. Thank you very much for your pledge. Zach Thinks as always
for your votes of confidence over the years. Very much appreciate you having you
out there in the solar system. Pal Robert, who writes shadowt to local
eighties nineties department stores weekends with Grandma getting strawberry pie at Hes Brothers and Allentown
Pa. Thinking the store was bullshit because it had no hasbros oof us.
Some of the days to me digging that my good friend Steven over in Ireland.
I really feel Boston. I could spend then afternoon exchanging war stories on
dealing with the public and museum atmospheres. Some of his recollections of working at
MSG gave me Vietnamese Vietnam esque flashbacks. Hopefully he never had a member of
the public try to pick a fight because they disagree of the historical facts that
paint a person, country, or institution they care about in a bad light.
Do you remember that you remember getting pushed back anything he said on the
tour, No, not really pushback, more just like, you know,
the the worst things were when I'd have a crowd that just didn't you know,
they didn't fucking they spoke no English, and so were they all,
you know, and so they're just kind of like a curious choice that to
take an English language tour I agree. I agree, but like you know,
we I'd go through things and I'd be like and then I'd do one
of my one of my jokes and it just be complete utter silence, and
I just have to like walk on to the next thing, you know,
let alone the wrestling references. Oh, it's it's completely it's it's I mean,
it is so emasculating when that happens. Like you know, when you
when you're you know, because you have you have good crowds, you have
bad crowds, and it's like, you know nothing, they're never any bad
crowds. But it's like there are crowds that just don't know, you know,
they don't know what I'm I'm saying. You know, it's it's not
their fault, you know, and so it's it's it's it's it's it was
rough. That was that was kind of no real pushback though on stuff,
Like I never really got any Everyone was pretty pretty cool that I that I
had. Anyway, I mean, they're they're definitely stories. You know,
people always have weird stories about about people and stuff, and you know,
some some would some would I heard people would, some people would get questioned
further there for the fact, but I never had that issue. Okay,
I just dealt with, you know, just people who were just like just
you know, staring at me like a fucking idiot, which I was.
So they're fair to get they're fair to do so well, speaking of not
their fault. One of the more jarring moments of Philly Weekend was at Wrestle
Khan and some guy I don't even know from a hole in the wall walking
around saying do you know where Gene Snitzky is? That? That was like,
that was alarming. That was very and like and why are you come
up to set it in a way where it's like Snitzky is loose, like
he's not in his cage. Well, not only that, but also that
I should be responsible for it. Yeah, he came up to me like
as if it was something that I should be taken care of. No,
I don't worry again, right, I don't. I don't work here.
You know, Maybe that's the guy Shane Douglas said we had to talk to.
Maybe maybe that's it. Maybe that's it because he has a contract.
Maybe this is bad when we do cash for carneies. I remember equally as
vividly the stories about no, as well as I do the wonderful things people
who gave us the time said yeah, yeah, oh yeah. I mean,
you know, it's funny too. I remember, I remember the first
the first time we did Starcast too. It's funny how we've kind of evolved
from that because at the when we did Starcast, remember uh uh uh Teddy
Long wanted money for an interview. He wanted like fifty bucks for it,
and we said no because we weren't doing anything. We're only getting free ones
at the time. Yeah, we just you know, it was like,
okay, well, if you want to get paid, that's fine, we
respect that and we're not going to you. Yeah, I'm not gonna do
that. But now it's like, okay, let's see what let's see what
kind of havoc we can cut. I don't know, there was something about
that Brett Hart experience where I was like, Okay, oh, totally,
well, these guys will do it, and like, yeah, we're the
only podcast in the world that that kind of a short, bite sized interaction
with can be worth it to our listeners, right because the random ass ship
will ask them. So let's fucking go. Yeap Lap lapsed veteran I want
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so much for ten years of entertainment. The show has helped me become secure
in my wrestling fandom to the point where I now embrace it. I've lapsed
since two thousand and three and never looked back. After the ben Wah tragedy
in two thousand and seven, we hear a lot of that, don't Yes,
we do. That was a real demarcation line for a lot of people,
you know, and I actually do think that I do fall in that
as well. You know, I think that I never really realized it,
but I think it makes sense. It goes on to write. My favorite
TLFX moment came in the ten year University of the ben Wa Tragedy, Part
one, where Jack says who killed Chris Benoir grab a fucking mirror. Yes,
yes, Kat. The cast's ability to meet this tragedy head on and
do comprehensive shows is about It is what makes this cast different from all others.
Agreed, I've stopped purchasing PBR and Wily jump back in when they do
the right thing by the co chair as well, declan, that's kind of
you hit that garage instead. Uh yeah, we've got somewhere else to point
to these days. We're growing with somebody else over here much because hey,
it makes it only makes sense, right, you know, PBR, you're
in that sort of stage of still kind of you're like you're clinging to still
being part of the scene, but you're a little old, right, Oh
yeah, you're drinking it. You're in that phase now. Someone put this
brilliant interface you someone else talking to It's like PBR is like I'm you know,
you drink it when it's the cheap beer in college and it's sort of
like an ironic thing, and then later, like twenty years later, when
you have money in a job, you drink it to try to relive those
days, right, right, sort of, But but garage beers for those
who are like now dads and they're in the garage and they don't having time
for that shit exactly, and we doubut people that have been with us through
their thirties right trying to avoid, trying to avoid their children and their families
totally get it. So I think it's appropriate. I think it's very brand
and avoid your families. What did you kids? Now? Garage beer,
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heaven. But when they come to your area, you gotta let it know
that a TLF feels the love and is interested in reciprocating. It's real.
Rye Rae, thank you very much for your pledge. Morgan Brown, thank
you. Welcome into the inner circle. We appreciate it. This one coming
from our boy Chris. It's relevant to the Funker as well. Definitely getting
a lot of Funk love both here in the mailbag and when we were in
Philly. And for sure, I will you can do much worse than being
associated, even in some small way, with Terry Funk Absolute Podcast. I'll
tell you that. Hello figured it appropriate to start an email about a past
legend with an intro from another. So I pounded through the Funk Tribute episodes
like one of Rob Black's Extreme associates male parts, Oh Jesus, pounding the
asses of xtpw's future roster pallets. It was amazing and emotional. I think
it stands out as your very best work, which is a mother fucking bar
and a half to raise as is. All I can say about it is
thank you, and then and continue the pain and suffering I always need and
likely deserve more. That said, I wanted to share an autograph from Terry.
I have many pictures with wrestlers from monster Mania, cons and New Jersey,
but the only autograph I ever got was from Terry. It was in
fact the Ring of Honor show where he fought Punk, which was also my
first live Ring of Honor event. He was sitting in the lobby area during
the intermission at the Murphy rec Center. Barely anyone was approaching him, and
I was like, why is no one talking to this guy? This is
Terry fucking Funk. I'm forty six now, so I was first introduced to
him outside of after Mags in WWE. Is a crazy cowboy that in WCW
trying to murder Flair. Then growing up in New Jersey, about ten minutes
from Philly, I went to ECW regularly, and lastly back and forth with
w c W and w w E. So the absurdity that only one person
was talking to this amazing person was overwhelming. I decided I was going to
change that circumstance and got into the three person line, prepping how I would
impress him with my deep and wide knowledge of wrestling, but uh more so
of his origins, only to effectively become Ralphie. Confronted with the ruddied nosed
Santa in the mall. As I approached, he looked me up and down
and with a kindly smile, asking my name and what I'd like him to
write. I brilliantly stated, anything you want works for me, really anyway?
He wrote, you know, No, I asked you, what do
you know? I don't know what? I asked, what you want me
to write? I don't. I don't want to go ahead and write something
I want to write because I don't know what the fuck you're talking about.
Honestly and sincerely. Honestly and sincerely, I'd rather go shoot myself in the
head. What huh, Jesus Christ, answer the question. Wait, that
was a question, you said, honestly and sincerely, I'd rather go shoot
myself on the head. That was a question. Anyway. He wrote his
note, and as I took it to read, he smirched or rascally smiling
softly said read that I had it, and it said, Hey, Chris,
stay out of jail. Just kidding, you're pal Terry Funk. I
replied, Oh yeah, thank you. Another of my witty responses. Funk
goes, I'm just kidding with you. Enjoy the show, Chris, to
which I nervously chuckled and said, oh, it's okay, appreciated it,
thank you, thank you for all the memories. But I'm sure I don't
take a breath these interactions with Terry Funker, like, oh god, unbelievable.
Yes, yeah, it's so true. So uh, oh, it's
okay, not offended at all, appreciated and thank you, meaning thank you
for all the memories. But to him, I'm sure it was a polite.
Thanks for the autograph, Oh well, that's my story and for your
optical pleasure. Included a pick of the only rest only wrestler autograph that I
have, and that matters. It's a beautiful thing. By the way,
this just made me remember for some reason, uh fucking Christian Hollister, uh
championship belt a title Like you know, here I go off on all I
mean, granted, listen, I didn't bring it. I stood by,
I stood my ground, and I had no intention to bring it because you
know what, bring bring it? Wrestling it because I don't want to fucking
wants to care. Honestly, the more you think about it, yes,
it's stupid from a from a a logical context, but who wants to carry
that ship around? I'm telling you. One of the craziest things, Like
when I was having my aforementioned difficulty getting into the stadium on night too,
I'm like, like observing the guy who wands you through, who works for
the Lincoln Financial Field that he's like, if anybody has wrestling belts, you
got to put them over here. Have the metal detectors? Like yeah,
right, but you can't. You can't say no to bring wrestling belts into
WrestleMania. They'll be a fucking riot, exactly. There'll be a mutiny because
people want to fucking you know people, people want to show off their championship
winnings. They don't let you bring pocket night. Yet think of the things
they don't let you bring into a stadium for security. They let you bring
these huge fuck you could fucking belts. You could fucking waffle somebody over the
head with one of those belts and it would hurt. Just take off at
the price and turn like a shift or something exactly. It's just so much
damage. You can whip somebody to death with it. It's very bizarre.
But you can't say because there's too many. There's just every other person has
those things. And when we went to wrestling twenty years ago, no one
had those, No one, no one, you're the phone. They were
even a thought, like you know, you don't even think about it because
they were so you know, like they were so unique, and no nobody
had the wherewithal the have like something that with the half of the actual WWF
title. You wouldn't take that out of your house. Of course, it
would be like a keepsake. You wouldn't wear it to the matches. Oh
my god. I mean, it's like it was out of control, and
it is. I will say this, that that belt that he the AWA
belt, that is very unique belt at number one. It's a lovely piece.
It's kind of the only belt that I would want to get, and
I would again not want to buy it, but it's it's also it's it's
it's like real metal. It doesn't it's not cheap. It's really well done.
So that's a fucking great, great gift. I do. I do,
listen, you know what, it's the one I do pick it up
every now and again and I just kind of look at it for a bit.
I don't walk around the house with it yet. You know, I'll
tell you that just holding that belt in the hotel room give me more appreciation
for the half dollar year. Now, I will never look at belt shots
the same. I used to think it was kind of stupid and a wrestler,
we're head of the wrestler over the head with the title belt, and
then sell it like it's really hard metal, you know. Yeah, yeah,
if it's anything like that belt, that is a legitimate knockout machine.
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for the support. Shane Canning, he's in and out. We love him.
Great to have you in the solar system. My friend Brian Sowers,
thank you. Jacob Steele, thank you. We want to thank Brett Hirtman
Hurts for that generous plank. Yes we do. I'm glad you agree.
Freshly Squeezed Garrick writes to us Derek co Chairs respectfully and lovingly, fuck you
guys, short time listener, first time correspondence, but in light of TLFX,
I feel compelled to share my perspective on this undertaking you have unleased upon
our readers and assholes. I never wanted to be a wrestling fan again.
I never know what a lapsed fan was, and now I count myself amongst
their numbers. And like many things in my life, I didn't know what
I wanted, what I needed until I found it. My story, in
many ways, is a story of many a lapsed fan, likely a small
contingent and one I'm sure you never considered. And I have found mutual ground
with many folks that likely never considered me either. Like Benny, I first
found predetermined pugilism and the hallote isles of the local video rental. I didn't
know which was first. I was very young, but over time I'd rented
and consumed every tape they had, and then found another store and looked through
theirs. I needed it all. Yes, the Sport of Kings, the
superheroes and the flesh, the American Dream, Big, Van Vader, Ravishing,
Rick rud the Hart Foundation in the Legion of Doom. I love them
all, except that weird dude from Demolition that couldn't stop making faces every few
seconds like a character select screen on Loop. I guess he means Barry Darcel
On that one, I guess Christ the fuck are you doing? My guy?
These felt like mythical stories of long ago. And then television was this
Shawn Michaels live in real time on my screen? Is that Golddust? One
of my all time favorites from recent tape acquisitions? What is this raw?
On the age of nine, I realized that these tapes and these Warriors were
Square Circle still existed right now in real time, and I was hooked about
that, thinking, first time it's you wrestling that it's something that no longer
exists in it's only video too, that's wild. My parents weren't thrilled the
shame fallow it. Well, I can't remember, you know. I was
talking about how my dad Remerit and No Holds Barred one time, and that
was really my first exposure to Hultkogan. I do kind of remember being blown
away that actually, the thing that's portrayed in No Holds Barred is on television
every week with new matches and characters. Yeah, yeah, I can see
that still going. It's a thing. It's not just right in the movie,
it's a thing in real life. Well, exactly what he's talking about,
but it's close. My parents weren't thrilled to a fine real life.
Yeah, that's a that's more of a cinemac conversation, that's true. Good
point welled soon after by me convincing them to order a pay per view for
my birthday party so I could invite all the kids in my grade to watch
it together. The pay per view. Being King of the Ring nineteen ninety
eight the pain. There were plenty of unhappy parents, I'm sure. After
several more years, I found myself lapsed. Something about being a young punk
kid living through the Second Iraq War made the product post nine to eleven more
and more unbearable. The first inkling that maybe these characters that I had learned
from Mick Foley's book were acting apart, especially the dastard lead mister McMahon,
were doing less acting and more traumatization of their true selves. I love that,
right. Everybody's an extension of themselves except mister McMahon. Fucking right.
I threw my time into music and dating and becoming an adult, and he's
actually entertainment. He's actually not an extension. He's just himself. That's right,
exactly. There's not even any exaggeration, as we came to find.
As we've been telling you for about ten years now. Then twenty years later,
COVID destroyed much of the life I had built, a career I was
proud of that. I would retire on that quirk quickly became too dangerous to
continue, leading to unemployment lasting years with some free time, though like everyone
had during the initial attempt at lockdowns, did bring my attention to new streaming
services. What is peacock? It has read interesting? What is that?
I partner and I were curious and watch some of the newer things, finding
and entertaining, but clearly very different from what I had as a kid.
Oh wow, this thing has all the pay per views ever, brother,
I wonder with the last one I remember seeing was maybe I'll look just for
curiosity again, It's not like I'm going to watch them or anything. No.
Two years later, at two hundred and forty shows later, Yes,
and once again a full time wrestling fan, but the deeper appreciation and understanding
of why I loved it in the first place. I don't keep up on
modern WW because it's simply too painful, and if I'm going to hurt that
much, I'm going to choose to do it to myself more than that.
Later. Oh oh boy, something else happened in the isolation of COVID nineteen
along with my journey back in a wrestling fan. And it turns out that
when you don't have to go out in public and uphold the mask you have
created to protect yourself every day, that mask begins to slip fully ah,
and you are forced to finally see the person beneath it. How long with
falling in love with wrestling again, I came to realize and accept that I
am, in fact a trans woman. Now, after several years into both
of these journeys, I have found that the two may not have been mutually
exclusive from my personal experience. Interesting and then my experience, there are actually
quite a few of us. I found that entire community of trans wrestling fans
yep, and it has been amazing to behold. It turns out that much
like the queer coating of Disneyville in the nineties, having queer coated heels like
gold Dust just gave some of us examples of queer people kicking ass in the
face of slurs from a society that hates them. It had the opposite of
the intended effect. I found out you could be pretty and strong and not
take shit from those that don't want you to live your truth. Fuck yeah
the New Year's Baby, though, that was fucked up? Dustined, what
the hell? Yeah, Well that's wrestling, man, I don't care.
Right, they're gonna take it. They are point everybody. They are going
to take it. One step or five steps too far exactly exactly. Now,
be careful about being represented. Okay, we talk about the importance of
representation well and pro wrestling. It's it's a dicey proposition. Now that I
was caught up on things and had the right hand head on my shoulders,
I started searching out everything I could about wrestling history. I needed to know
it all. I started by dredging through all the shoot interviews and podcasts of
the same stories being told and retold. Still felt like cafabe. I needed
more. Was I going to have to do this myself? I looked again
for wrestling podcasts that did not present these workers. Tall tales is the only
possible truth with no further research. What was this? The lapsed fan?
What's that? My god? Six hours? Never heard of it? Okay,
maybe maybe one just to see possible. You were saying, that's like
a that's like a fucking teenager saying just the tip, yeah, famous last
words. Possibly my favorite tape from the rental store, the search for Sweet
Sapphires. Oh no, no, it's good and they're funny. It reeks
of cis hat, white guy. But the research, my god, the
research totally does absolutely there's no no denying that at all. I believe I
fit the description. I have to do some gruggling, but oh shit,
this butt stuff is funny as hell. Yes it is. Oh my god,
Oh my god, ooh a steroid trial. Jesus father, Oh no,
no, my dear CoA chairs. In a few short months, it
became even clearer. This is not what I wanted, it is what I
needed. Hey, you know this is We don't say it because it's not
true. We don't say it because it's catchy. We say it because everyone
says it back to us tenfold. I took the main's journey. I scar
blated and ran hot. I learned the art of war games. I learned
the history of my current homeland of Minneapolis, Minnesota, and the rise and
fall of the AABA. And by God that I suffer through the lamentable tragedy,
because god damn it have been needed several champions, Oh damn straight.
So, as much as I hate to admit it, as some of the
bits are hard to stomach. As a woman, a survivor of sexual assault,
and a trans person living through a modern world, it seems to want
us dead more than ever. If anyone were never asking me, you a
fan I'd only have one honest answer in radical honesty, is how I live
nowadays. Yes, yes, I am so thank you for having me ten
years late to the party. And on a final note, speaking of parties,
it turns out I still feel the need to make a wrestling podcast no
offense, But it turns out there's a lot of voices that aren't sis had
men that have things to say about their absolutely long love and hate of bullshit
Brawlingularly, anything from Staggerly Marshall is that you have to be the pan gendered,
no loads refused, nitro funk party that you want to see in the
world. So go ahead and release the podcast. I wish you the best.
I love that. I think it's a great fucking idea. Oh shit,
I know, well yeah, you know, hey I I I certainly
want to say I hear you h regarding the sexual assault, and I wish
you the best. On a final note, I'm willing to bet there's a
lot of us chronically online transferm lapsed fan listeners. Interesting. If your back
catalog tells me anything, it's that you guys also love pills to get your
dick card. Well wait, what remember we do with the blue two days.
Oh fuck yes, and shoving things are very swollen. You get yes.
If this email is too long, too much info in anyway and pleasant
energy to revisit its opening missive. Fuck you guys, complimentary, never apologize,
but like the funker said, we do it our way because we love
it that way. Damn right, great stuff. Fuck yeah, I love
it for the missive, that's fantastic. H uh, Anthony FIORI thank you
very much for the pledge. We appreciate the cake. Dean writes the night
Edge and mcfoley attack Cactus Jack on Raw was five days before my college graduation.
That's how I spent the last Monday night of course college days. Of
course, you could have been doing anything. You could have been. You
could have been like partying, you could have been fucking whatever, But you
know what you were where you needed to be, because that's where, you
know. That's what we give up. We give up all the good ship
because we need to see what is going to happen on Raw. Dean Cliff,
whatever your name is. Rights, not drinking, not seeing friends,
watching fake sports, that's right, and eating chicken tenders from the food hall.
I don't see the problem. It's fucking go Boss, chicken tenders from
the food hall. Does that not put you in a particular place in time?
Chicken patties at the thin chicken? Feel? My god, you know
what I mean? Christ I can feel the jacket I owned that. Oh
I know, I can, I can, I can. I can remember
my my, my leather blazer that I used to wear. Because it's totally
okay. How about Jeff who writes Hogan nineteen eighty four and the rest well
is up to you, boss. Hey, guys, saw that one of
the Hogan casts. H dropped saw that part one of the Hogan What Hogan
cast? Do you remember doing Hogan's first to win titling? Oh shit,
Oh my god? Hap we to do that? It's been been a long
year, a long TLFX. All right, it's only just begun. Hope
it's not too late to send memories. But here's my story. It's a
bit of a lapsed X recollection mixed in with early Hogan. I found this
podcast when you were when you all were about halfway into the WrestleMania journey.
One thing tlf has always made me think about was I don't remember not watching
wrestling or quote finding wrestling as far back as I can remember. I remember
being a wrestling fan, and it's not like I was choosing what was on
TV when I was a toddler in the mid eighties. I was born a
year after Hogan won the title for the first time. My parents were young
when I was born. They are early in the MTV era and the perfect
demo for that early rock and wrestling Hogan era. In the nineties, my
brother and I got a TV in our room because they didn't want wrestling on
the TV. Wow. But the older I get, the more obvious it
is that they were drawn into a sport, into the sport of kings by
Hogan because I was too young, quite frankly, to decide I was a
hulkamenagg I remember us checking out the Rocky movies from the library in my late
teens. While most of you were Blockbuster millennials, we were at checkout movies
from the library. Family they did that too. They didn't have any wrestling
movies though. That's kind of thing like, they didn't have any wrestling fucking
videos at my library, So yes, I would, I would borrow movies.
Well, I said, no, you know what, I wouldn't.
We didn't have them really like it was. It was after I graduated high
school when the Town Library, Yeah, that's definitely more of a DVD.
They didn't they didn't have like good VHS tapes. They had like it was
crap. It was always not crap. I shouldn't say that, that's very
derogatory, but it was like, you know, fucking PBS shit, and
I don't want to watch that as a kid, you know, right exactly.
It's like stuff, it's it's it's it's video books is what it was,
you know, and I don't. I didn't want to read, sure,
as I didn't want to fucking watch something about basically reading. I definitely
remember time in my life where I'm like, wait a minute, so libraries
are like best buy now Yeah, oh yeah, I was, Oh my
god, are you kidding me? The at the time, the uh,
the the Amherst Town Library in twenty twenty twenty twenty one was the uh,
the original uh place, you know, kind of the original hotspot for under
the cinemat. Oh, I'd get all the fucking movies there, like if
I when I when I found I basically go in there with my list and
just see what they had from my list. That was that I could that
I could uh uh you know, borrow and rip. Wow, really I
didn't know that. Yep, yep, I'd do that. I would go
in there and uh yeah. I tried to just grab as much as I
could, just about everything or not. They did a lot. They had
a good selection, certainly more of like you know, more current stuff and
you had to do a physical DVD home, right, that's what they were
offering. Yeah. Yeah, at the time, it was it was that
and you know, then you find your ways around all that stuff. Brother,
go on, brother, what uh? What my parents told us about
Hull Cogan was when he came on the screen of Rocky three. You hadn't
seen me won that big on TV before. To them, still oone seemed
huge, but seeing Hogan towering over him had them and everyone they knew awestruck.
Well, to forget about the apple box he was standing on. Well,
yeah, that's the thing. That's why it was such a stroke of
genius, because not only is hulkogan and taller than Rocky, but they realize
that if we made it even that much taller than were still alone, it
would be legendary. That was such a stroke of genius. How many people
did we hear from and have heard from over the years that said that that
was the thing about Hogan and Rocky three is how much taller he was.
It wasn't just the muscles, it was how much taller he was. Yeah,
because it made him seem like completely huge, like a giant, as
opposed to just you know, Hogan, Yeah, ripped up and my dad,
whether he wants to admit it or not, it's clearly a closet hulkamaniac.
I love when you all talk Hogan knows best in his first book because
I can remember coming home from college and finding my dad watching this reality show
with Hogan I didn't know about because I was lapsed from the product at the
time. As I was I was in college. When you read the book.
When you read the book, it takes me back to my dad telling
me everything he learned about the Hulkster when I'd call home from college. Recently,
un a visit home, we watched the AA and documentary on WrestleMania one
uh uh, and it was great to hear my parents talk about early MTV.
A couple of other quick Hogan thoughts. Number one, as it is
lapsed x TLFX and Hogan. It's finally time to tell you about the artsy
girl I dated in college who claimed to see people's aura and said she couldn't
see the colors red and yellow together. Brother, that's concerning. I'm very
concerned. That's what do you What do you mean? What do you mean?
Do when you say when you say when you say together, what does
that mean? Dude? He's saying like I were all red or I were
all yellow or what's brother? I just need to know exactly what it is,
what's going on? That's that's my question because I'm feeling wait for an
answer, and you're standing. I've asked you the question about five times already,
dude, and you're sitting there saying, I don't know Hulk. I
don't know Hulk. I don't know Hulk. And I'm wondering exactly what it
is you don't Oh right, what do you know? What? What can
we talk about? What you do know? Maybe I didn't think so,
Bro, I know more than you do, you know more than me?
Where are we? Dude? We're going to separate red and yellow now?
I mean I thought this was America, brother, I thought those were primary
colors. Dude, woman, you can't see him together. Dude, I
can't see these colors together. I'm not a racist, dude, I never
have been. I am not a racist. Do you have against red and
yellow being together? Brother? Dude? What who my wiretap right now?
Dude? Are you going to release this tape in twelve years? Dude?
Brother? Are you recording this call? Dude? Okay, now I finally
have the title of my Hoogan biography. Are you recording this call? Dude?
It's kind of like guess who's coming to dinner? Yes, yep,
yep. Are you recording this call? Dude? Absolutely? Uh two.
I'd love to hear the Hulkster listen to the song this is It by Kenny
Logger and Michael McDonald and get more and more paranoid as he listens to the
lyrics. That sounds like, that's not like a Cameo thing to me.
Good you go to the het so you sweat it out on stage? Do
it a live lap ju the people? It's no, it is not,
it is not. Tell him tell about Cameo you've been absolutely yeah. We
had a couple of good ones here at cameo dot Com. Slash laps fan
just we just had one. Go. Oh, they should probably post it,
actually post a link to it on on Twitter. Uh. The the
call a bit on the call the uh, someone asked to do the uh
what the the newsroom meeting was before WrestleMania x L in Philadelphia? And what
is of the paper? Yeah? And what it is that? He?
Uh? You know what the editor told the people there? And so it
was. It was quite funny. It was pretty fucking funny. I won't
lie. That really fucking had me. Uh And yeah, you know,
listen, a lot of a lot of things were revealed. I'll say that
a lot of things were revealed, so well, we'll post it. But
I would say this Hogan thing paranoid of a song, that's definitely a cameo
thing. So let's do it. Yeah, a little more for a little
more selective about those things. Indeed. Okay, thank you very much for
the pledge. We love it. I appreciate the cake. Matt writes,
I was in a rack for Royal Rumble two thousand and eight. WHOA,
my dearest co chairman. I would like to start by giving you all the
credit that is deserved for the lapsed funk your workdor in that series was second
to none and will never be duplicated. One more quick false start. I
recently finished my second or third Listen to the Momentable Tragedy after watching The Iron
Claw and once again absolutely unbelievable work there as well. That movie. Can't
hild a candle to what you all uncovered as the truth. Now for the
actual subject of my email. In January twenty oh eight, I was deployed
to the tour Rock with the US Army. We deployed No. December oh
seven, the day after Armageddon, when Orton won the title twice at one
night. The fact that you remember, Oh my god, I'm I'm I
feel bad, feel awful for you, sir. In a rock the pay
per views would started like two AM, and because I'm a lifelong degenerate wrestling
fan, I was up and loading up the thenww dot com pay per view
stream. Oh my god, you imagine in a rack on the stream the
Internet. In racks, you might expect what'sing exactly great, So the stream
wasn't crisp before it settled my need for the show. I'm sitting outside my
housing unit, freezing my balls off, watching fake sports while un deployment.
The shame. I remember the show not being much for me overall until the
rumble. Having kept up with the Week tw week online, I fully expect
a triple H to win, that is until number thirty. Now. I'm
a twenty five year old man at the time and have known the dirty truth
about wrestling for most of my life. But when Sina came out, I
had to remind myself it was almost five am and no one else cared.
That's right. Ye'll be careful out there. Yep. It was obviously a
huge shock and made the show. While I'm sure most of the emails you
get will have similar themes, overall, just wanted to give you a different
viewpoint. Continue to love the work. Thank you for seeing them. Ania.
That's yeah, that's amazing. You know they talk about being on the
Armed Forces Network and everything, and oh yeah, you never think about people
in military installations across the world watching wrestling. Oh god, no, I
mean, like that's the thing, Like you never really thought about people doing
that and what you know, or more importantly, how embarrassing it would be
to do that. Absolutely get caught by, you know, some of your
fellow soldiers and like they're like, what the Fuck's wrong with you? What
are you doing? Ok? You watch it? Can you tell me you
watch this? Fucking shit? What do you think? The war's fake?
Too? Just hovered watching a stream like at the way in the morning,
complete immediate accusation, absolutely going right to fucking wait you watch wrestling? Do
you think? Do you think what we do here is fake? Oh?
My god? Being deployed is fake? You? The war's fake? Right
determined? How can I trust you to have my back when the ship goes
down? A real shooting from fake shooting? Fuck her? So our man
Brian, longtime supporter. We'd love to have him the Solar System. Was
great to see him front row in Philly. Damn straight coming out sports cause
yeah, some Strailia bag. Since we were last with you this one.
I'll also take a deep breath and a swig of water. This one he's
calling the second annual Motor Mega mail Bag. Oh shit, make movies,
Hello, CoA Chairs, you topped yourselves again in twenty twenty three. I'll
save my larger thoughts on the show for lapstacks Jesus Christ. For now,
I'm just sending you my very not brief thoughts on some of the funniest lines
in Moments from twenty twenty three, broken down by episode category, along with
a few random thoughts and questions. I hope you enjoy rereading some of your
lines as much as I did listening to them. Keep in mind that this
email was significantly trimmed down from more of a novel length to novella length.
Yeah, this is the level of interest and passion that you two inspire.
Jack can read the first few sections and JP can read the end of the
cinemat and Wrestle Mammy as sections, Oh Boy, Sane Show tnh JP said,
if homicide and suicide could team up, you would have pushed that up.
It's true. Jack came up with the phrase extract, transform and larry
it laps, Hogan said to Dixie, can we talk Terry brother? Jack
accidentally said Brooke Hogan broke Hogan brook, Well, that's true too. Actually
it's not. I it's not wrong, which would perfectly describe Hulk if not
for the Gawker Laws. It Indeed, j JP, by episode two of
T and H sound that is despondent, as he did by the end of
the World Class Journey lapsed. Vince. We are looking to efficiently socialize the
actionable and degree we are looking to efficiently soci the action of olyndic race.
So actually don't mind doing that? Can we get that on the on the
to do list? Please to efficiently socialized actionable innovationally and then the next next
phase of evolution in the w E followed by w w E action zone creates
diversity and boils the ocean. Yes, Jack referred to Linda Hogan as our
hell in heart for T and H does that mean Nick Hogan is Bruce brother?
JP revealed in college he bought San Fernando Jones and the Temple is King
I did. I did my first ABYSS, my first fucking porn tape.
I bought that like my first weekend at ned Emerson. I went down there
was like a the used to be there, used to be a uh there
was like an adult video shop like right behind, and I was like,
oh, there on my own, I'm gonna go buy a porn. Yeah.
It wasn't good at internet. Wasn't good enough too, surely not to
get fucking Indiana Jones based porn. During a discussion about abyss and business,
Jack said they are stakeholders that s T E a k and the end of
part one of Teenage episode seven might be the hardest I've ever heard Jack laugh.
JP had played various audio clips, had mixed in the sound of repeated
shots he started mixing and Dixie over the top of various clips, Jack the
immaterial llog, I don't remember that at all. Lap's O gonna ask Bischoff
if he wants to take a whack with Brooks. Did you want to take
a whack with these? Dude? Just hit him? Brother Jack or JP
came up with six tape sex tapes and aces Bishoff name drop Tom Beers who
bought me because my brother worked for Tom for years. That was a big
name drop for Bischoff. Just shows how much of a nothing in Hollywood he
is, always has been, always will be. Now out of the bunkhouse
stampede. During a union riff, someone says, we know you want Hawk
to prevail, but the only thing that will prevail is wages. Excellent,
He writes, Oh my god. Super Bowl ninety one a chat gpt On
murdered Layoffs Great of the phrase specs Special Special special tribute. After JR.
Made his first reference of the night to the Sooner as Jack said sooner or
later actually an hour, laters, Oh my god. Yes. During a
riff on Dusty covering up for eels being cheered resulted in one of you saying
we have no idea who our fans will cheer for, and w c W
we have no idea. You discussed Dusty going to an in and out and
note that animal style means the hamburger has growed onions. One of you mentioned
Rang. Then JP asked about Smack and Jack Jack asked about two five live
oh Shire too much? Oh my god, christ Brian writes Mendez a discussion
about Nikita Coloff in the Middle East with a Russian envoy that to someone saying
c CCP stands for a cock Jock said, Jack said Jack, are you
really miss Jack? Jack said, daped fistmatch. I thought it was lying.
Oh fuck me. I guess it was a good year. Ay w
revolution. Jack said the young books associated with Recida for p W, but
the only receded now is their hairlines. In response to the commentary line the
body shuts down to protect the liver, Jack gasked about what about the it's
a pat for that matter? Yeah, lapsed funk. During a discussion on
a e F American Expeditionary Force. Yeah, because that's what Doys Senior was
in. JP guessed it to Frau Fakers. JP said Dusty came from Hamburg
and Frankfurt. Oh, that was great. Jack then said he was on
the Hidden Valley Ranch. This isn't you know, this isn't fun. Are
we not having fun here? Hurt so bad? In the spirit of Dornce
Funk you coined Corance Graves, Torrance Wilson, Codence Roadwance Culkin. Talk about
Terry's grandfather being a policeman led to Jack saying Dori Senior was also a cop
because he could because he could shoot on people. Trying to expose the business
laps Funk Japan. Talking about Terry ordering food in Japan, laps Terry said,
you order a dish and you might get something else, And Jack said,
you order a dish and the cable company comes. You know, I
saw I went to a restaurant, I ordered a dish, and all of
a sudden, I had cable TV. I on a head and change the
channel. Mail bag. JP read an email where I just about Tom Savini.
JP explained to Jack that he looks like the horny guy, before remembering
he was thinking of Lee Marshall hilarious called back to the start KD the mayor
did the horny guy funk laps, Terry said, I didn't say I'd never
wrestle again. I said I'd never wrestle again. Jack then said, I
guess it depends on where you put the com up like ware Oh, hilarious.
During a discussion about the Brisco, someone said, don't you know grammar?
Then the other CoA chair said she died before I was born. Dory
Junior was described as being significantly sweaty in the nether regions. I mean it's
very true, you know, sometimes I can't control the liquor. Thanks Tory
that liquid. He said, there's a there's an immense amount of condensation that
happens underneath my my jockey shorts and other reflections. Last laps, Jack Criscal
said, the thing about pancakes is sometimes I forget who I am. That's
not fair to you. That one that's that's one of your favorite t l
f X. Fucking you get what's good? What's really good? What it
do? Idiot Jack briscol JP and Jack Briscal. He looks like he can
go all around and still not know what's coming, followed by Jack. You
can say that again, JP said, Jackie, you get it all the
way around. And I'd say, said Jack Briscoe will forever make me think
of SAP, and Jack said, I will forever hear his maple syrup voice.
JP described Jack Briscoe as the Eli Manning of laps Funk Dusty laps Terry.
I want ahead, and I want ahead, and I want ahead.
Then Jack asked, is this Millie Vanilli? Jack described Dorry is looking as
comatose and down syndrome as ever. That was wrong, I said that.
JP said Dorr's hair is a real problem and he looks like the pro over.
You say someone's hairror is a real lapsed funk Lawler. During the two
thousand and three Funk Lawler, Matt Jack said Lawler goes unmolested. I did
say the same for some of his girlfriends. Laps Funk Hogan, someone called
someone coined double cross ranch dressing Lapstogan said the lapsed funk Terry leading to laps
Funk. I don't know if you were saying double or I'm saying single.
Oh, you had an amazing refund Bunk looking up Hogan in the phone book,
las Funk said, I was gonna. I was looking at ats for
Hogan. Then I realized this your real last name. And I tried teas
for Terry. Then realized it is not that I called every Terry in the
phone book. Hm hmm water. I really can't. Oh god, mh.
I'm gonna drink some prime, getting fucking Christy. You're gonna get prime
for this chip. Oh, mother of God. I'd ask if the person
is Terry the wrestler. When they'd say no, I think, well he
is paranoid to it kid him. Jack then said Hogan's biopic should be Terry
the Wrestler. Jack, as Funk said, I called the police and a
sting picked up. I say, Hey, is this Terry the wrestler?
Hey, is Terry there? Yeah? This is this is she? Are
you Terry the Wrestler? No? Oh, sorry, I'll call you back.
I'll call you back. Look, there's still more to be done here,
but for now I can't prioritize him. I'll call you back. Other
unwrapping a chat GPD story involving Virgil created the term spaghetti wrestling. Oh God,
Jesus Christ. Jack then clamored for a spaghetti wrestling shirt with a ring
made out of linguini and a tomato stain on it. Has this been made
of shirt? And yet I don't believe it has that one. I guess
Christmas Chat gpt Vince. What we're principally engaged in is the transfer of digital
files, which led to laps Vince dating. And I'd rather have an r
O I than an r O H fucking hilarious. I had a random thought
during Lapsed Funk can lapse Terry say, goozle me to ketch it a,
gozele me to cash it. I had I gotta take Asheta as well.
After the damn match went ahead and took Ashida. I had the fortune of
seeing JP live and King of the Jews. The show was great and JP
was fantastic. JP was directly in front of me at points with his back
turn to me. I can only imagine Hoping literally quaking, and I don't
mean tenta in his boots if he was performing that setup. There was a
line in the play about Jewish names into Horowitz. I felt like I was
listening to Jack of a ninety five issue of the Observer. That's good one
more for me live calls rollin versus Baller, money in the bank, catchiatory
Shabbata was coined. It was commentary said Damian Priest is a significant threat.
JP said all prices are a threat, or at least wait a minute,
at least like what was the I forget what the percentage was and in spotlight,
Oh yeah, whatever it was, I forgot to eighty ninety Oscar Bianca
running the bank. There was a discussion about Paul Hayman's wait for some reason.
Jack said Cody is the only person who needs more weight aid A than
JP said he has an infinite weight. Oh my god, trash Trish versus
Becky from Payback. Someone said Becky's twist of fate was a tribute to lead
her. Then the other co host said she is familiar with the leaders being
a pier. Oh god, ray theory. Somehow a riff resulted in the
coach chairs imagining if WW had debuted road as Ol mysterio or or Bob mister
Usso's backlash. Someone said they were victims of a one dimensional program, and
the other co chairs said the USO's finisher is a one dimensional finisher for a
one dimensional entertainment property and most importantly, one dimensional entertainment ode is what Endeavor
bought Becky Zoe Stark. JP described Zoe Stark by saying her forehead keeps golden
going. Cody Brock SummerSlam. While talking about Cody taking Suplex's Jack said,
if we are talking about brand integration, this should be brought to you by
Salesforce. At the end, there was a discussion about rebuilding Cody, and
JP said they'll never rebuild the Twin Towers and they'll never rebuild Cody Roads.
Hey, you know what I will admit when I'm wrong about one thing.
Man, They did rebuild the Twin Towers. Oh shit, boo, oh
shit. Charlotte Riea. Jack said, of course Charlotte is entitled. She
is the SmackDown champion. Puts to deation. How many times has she been
entitled? Cody fast laying tag the co chairs had the autumn feeling that's a
good move to have. In October, a gordbuster Jack called the series of
roll ups, prompting a perfectly timed browler. Cody priest Crown Jewel put a
fork in him. He's JD McDonald oh Rollin's Drew crownjewel. There was a
discussion about Vince calling Saudi Arabia our home, which led to one of the
CoA chairs coming up with sand Martin seen a solo Crown jewel. JP hated
seen his hair and kept repeating over and overlooking him, It's so true.
You were trying to keep his hat on. It may and then when the
hat came off, how many times did he slick his hair back after putting
solos? He knew his hair is just completely out of control, and you
know, like, honestly, he should go out there. They should.
Someone should fucking spray paint that bald spot, all right. It's not that
hard to spray paint it, right, I mean it's would have done the
trick. Oh. Instead, he's growing it as long as he can,
and it's just it looks trying to get the hair from the front to cover
the bald spot in the back by slicking it back. I know he's doing.
He's doing like a very an awful comb over. And it's just like
it gets worse because his hair is so thin. The longer it gets,
the more the more like non committal. His hair is right, It's so
true, it's not it's not with him all the way to the end Women's
War Games. When Becky was bleeding, JP said she had juice. Jack
said about juice just waiting till Randy Orton and the Men's war zones hilarious.
Randy's nex certainly didn't look like a stack of nimes. That night, when
EO put on a trash can, one of you dubbed her the idiot of
the sky, one of my favorite nicknames, idiot. I pretty proud that
was good. Yeah, Roman J SummerSlam. I don't remember the context at
all, but JP said Roman was soaking in the genitalia of reality. What
a hilarious use of playing or I had some very bizarre autogorrect on my phone.
I think JP was just coming up with magic. If it was Roman
J, that means it was the main event, and likely I was inebriated,
so very it's very it's very possible that I did say that Sammy Roman.
JP was annoyed with new beverige On Smith Ever announcing him as Roman horangeman.
Hooray. JP said, that is what you go to court for,
a horrange utc. It's all you I get to take a break, all
right, all right, here's some of my favorite lines and a few questions
comments about eligibility for UTC. Scream three j P played a clip from a
ne F Campbell interview where she said she didn't have a body double because there
was no nuty except quote, I only showed my back and we've all seen
them laps get im erupted. Brother. There was an extended ogan riff uh
where he said, who's back? Nobody told me about exposing back? Brother,
I'll show my fucking cock. What are you exposing my back to?
Jack said to everyone behind you laps so gonna who's gonna roll me up?
Brother? What a delightful detour from a standard breslam from a movie and noan
fumpman in Roadhouse, JP played a Terry Funk song about Barbarestreuisen's nose which uh,
which contained a line about Liberachi smiled. That made me wonder if Liberaci's
appearance at the initial Wrestlmanium makes him eligible for UTC. Possibly. I mean,
it is pretty it's one of those legendary moments. It's it was possible.
Yeah, I'm not opposed to it. If a celebrity appearance in wrestling
counts that that one does. Yeah, yeah, I mean especially for that,
I mean it was such a you know, I would I would almost
I would pretty much say that anyone who appeared at WrestleMania one kind of has
an automatic celebrity, right, you know, has an automatic in with that.
So, yes, Labaracci would would, which I don't think I'll take
a look at that now, because I would love I would love forty five
minutes on how his appearance at WrestleMania game together. Yeah right, yeah,
seriously, Bob Bucher is in the Hall of Fame, so I believe major
League, Yes, major League is eligible for the Seibor movies. Bob Bucker
is all Bob Yucker stuff. Is Michael Buffer eligible? Yeah, absolutely,
he is, absolutely so I assume so based on his recent coverage in the
Rady Rumball episode. He has an extensive filmography, including Harlem Knights with Eddie
Murphy. I was actually good Light. Yes, Paul Walter Hauser, Yes,
has eaten a guitar, Shart and agent. Actually now, especially now,
I mean, listen, anyone, anyone who wears a fucking t L
left shirt in the ring gets an automatic fucking you know, you know,
immediate entry shouting and wrestling. Yeah, he qualifies the covered your jewel.
Yeah, I do want to do that. And the only thing more ninety
six, uh, Atlanta than Ted Turner and d c W. That's true,
w W W right some and it's right there, right in the Ted
Turner back backyard there. That's crazy. Uh. Someone posted a clip where
JP talked about Robert Parrish ropes of seamen. Actually it was you saying that,
but we've I've I've adopted it because it was one of the fucking funniest
things I've ever heard of in my life. This naturally made me think of
when you said fucking shooting ropes, fucking extream of cum just like like a
like a like a yeah exactly. This naturally made me think of basketball players.
I believe Shack should be No, Absolutely, he would be eligible.
He's been involved in quite a bit. Blue chips eligible. Yes, Blue
chips will allow you to cover early nineties Nick Nolty again, as well as
Celtics greats. Bob is a Kousie, I don't even know Couzi, Bob
Coozy and Larry Bird Shaq would also make he a game eligible. Yep,
I'd say all that stuff. Oh, could Spike Lee, Rosario Dawson,
Celtic Great Ray Allen, and most importantly, as we learned from Beyond the
Matt Newjack's friend Denzel Washington. Creed three features both Maral Ronaldo and Todd Grisham.
Yes, the Qualifies air has clips of Hogan and mister t and the
opening credits. Yeah, that qualifies for sure. Is Genie Buss available for
you to be the owner of the Lakers as the producer of Women of Wrestling?
Yes, absolutely that. She's also prucer on The Last Man Hunt,
which features Oscar nominee Lily Glass. Absolutely. Definitely someone who's someone who's behind
the scenes especially, I think is important. That's why you know, Jason
Hervey is like a you know he's gonna be great. Bill Murray and Groundhard
Day gives wrestling. Yes, I do want to do that when that I
I it's definitely a long shot, but I think it's I think it's important.
But he does wrestling tickets to uh Michael Shannon and some woman and they
go crazy over it, which would have been wrestling nine. Actually, I
believe Wow, would the movie be I I think so. I think I
think mentioning WrestleMania specifically, is uh is is important? Is Alice Cooper appearing
in Wrestlming You three enough to be eligible? This would make John Carpenter's principle
Prince of Doctor is already on there anyway, for another reason, Wayne's World.
That'd be fun. I need I need. Jack's commentary on O'Neil's cameo
in Wayne's World. Nice, it's really fucking funny. I liked that cameo
of his. When will Scary three? Because Serio Movie three be covered.
Lesie Nielsen is in it and it has a wrestling he eleven reunion of Pan
and And and Jenny McCarthy. It also features a favorite of mine and Jack,
George Carlin. Yeah, it'll be there, listen, Leslie Nielsen,
is is is a qualification for sure because the whole leadout Summer some Money.
Don't even just Summer s money before, but the whole you know, he
was on TV every week for like two months. Absolutely, would Richard Belzer
qualify for UTC because of the incident with Hogan. This would qualify a number
of movies, including Fame. I don't think Richard Belzer would oh qualify interesting,
Yeah, it didn't happen. It didn't happen in wrestling, and he
didn't like make an appearance with wrestling. It happened, you know, it
happened on his show, right right. I mean, granted, I know
it's a little bit different because he yeah, because he choked him out.
But I don't think so because there was there was never like a return appearance
on Hogan's turf. You know, if bells that's a good point. If
Belser had made a return appearance, I would say yes, but he didn't.
It's tough, like you're saying, any any platform or wrestler has appeared
on Larry King would would qualify, right, Yeah, no, no,
because it's gotta be the opposite really because Russell here would qualify tho because they
mocked him on Yeah. Yeah, interesting, maybe you wouldn't. But no,
it's a good point. I didn't really think about it like that,
but that's actually a good point. They did do that. That might put
that. I'll look into that Ghostbusters too. JB talked about will Wilhelm vald
Hamburg being a butcher. In Hamburg, the coach has showed he was not
a butcher in jobs or anything else, just the Butcher said to Jack,
saying the burger in the Blade jav Coin of burgers in blades, Oh my
god. Jamie described Dan Accord as the Vince Russo. To ivant wrightman Vince
McMahon after discussing his terrible ideas, you talked about Irish, Bob McKinney,
Jack said, you know, you know, Bob, you know you don't
have to say Irish. That doesn't distinguish you. Oh. Robert Lipside of
The New York Times wrote in an article about wrestling as being quote filled with
smoke and the smells of linimen steam and too many people trendous, he writes.
JP also read from the article about a quote well placed hoax, leading
JP to say, isn't that what wrestling is? Jack said, I don't
know about well placed. Then JP dropped the quote wrestling fans have been dricked
again. Clip Fantastic. Ernie Hudson's cameo had one sentence about Wilhelm, leading
Jack to saying he gave a bishoff response, Oh, Jack could increasing the
drink clip from Michael Chapman of the future Never No, Never, Never know.
Jmikin laughing was the man in the clip. Jack said, what a
world, what a word salad, This guy sucks. It's a wonderful life.
Jack's reaction to JP's revealed the movie is by far the happiest I have
ever heard. He was even happier than Jimmy Steward. At the end of
the movie, I had a similar look on my face. I can tell
you bet way to go. Clarence JV mentioned something with quote a lack of
taint Jacks, I'd love to see him actress Trace Tate, and JP said
there was with naked midion. You read this called freak Capra Carnie fuck and
said no, ladies and gentlemen before him, before noting that Capra Fi America
faster than both Freak Capra ship drag fucking Opera. During the scene where Jimmy
Stewart tells his daughter to continue playing after his Outbridge said quote, it will
relieve me my responsibility. Oh my god, it will relieve me of my
responsibility for your tears. Okay, practically your fucking content. God damn it.
Wonderful movie, wonderful episode, wonderful line from Jack Shadow Warriors too.
We're going back to the beginning of the year now, JP said the arc
Focus Life is a series of quote this things which brought the JACKA says,
opposed with sad things. Oh my god, I mean it's supposed to be
Princess Bride, but it has written Princess Bridge. I fucking love it,
brother, I never thought i'd here. JP. Compare William Goldman to Eric
Pischoff. Goldman said, quote stars don't have friends, they have a associates
and serfs Lisle. You do note this describes Hogan perfectly. Golan Goldman would
all Goban would always call Andre Andre one of you coined crimp soup play and
there the giants, Oh my god money. Uh. Somehow there was a
rough about Hogan becoming apparently lovely Crystal becoming the champ off all the David arquette,
Tim, what do you do? What are you doing? Dude?
Exactly? Why are you talking? Brother? Is Billy Crystal put the belt?
He put the belt and Billy Crystal? Dude? What's he doing here?
Brother? Darry? Why are you here for that matter? What Crystal
before the David? Are you give him my strap? Terry? I'm not
killing anybody your strap. I don't know why you're here. You weren't called
into the the building. You don't have an office here. What do you
mean a Roman office? Dude, Terry, you don't have an office.
You don't actually officially work for the w W E you are a private contractor
Yeah, when did you do this? Dude, Terry? It's in your
contract. Does Billy? Does Billy Crystal the contract? Dude? Exactly like
you trying to scot around this very important Terry. Billy does have a contract
with the w W We're trying to do some momentum with him. I'm trying
to build momentum with Billy Crystal. What you mm hmm? Bill? You're
gonna build with Billy? Dude? Is that the new slogan for the eight
Are we talking? We're talking building? Is that it too? Are you
build? Yes, Jerry, We're giving him this strap at WrestleMania four?
Brother? Yeah? What h m hm hm uh huh m hm do do
you do? Do I have any saying this? Brother? What I mean,
Darry? I don't believe you have creative control and con in your contract?
What about sexual elevens of paragraphy? Brother? Not? My contract won't
happen for another eight years, give or take with Turner. So Tim White
described Andre lifting his leg to fart as these the launch position, which Jack
loved, Jacket preferring to Mandy Patinkin as Mandy Potenkin. Now we just need
the battleship Patinkin and patink In villages. Jack brought up particularly Curtis being married
with Christopher guests, and JAF said, imagine Titty fucking her. Jesus j
exactly exactly. Oh shit, this episode, they're rereading things they've said in
the past and last exactly exactly, so now you can see exactly preside adventure.
Jack talked about Shelley Winters and her affairs, then said Winters is coming
take that Game of Thrones. Oh God, Torry Inferno. After japing note
of that John Williams is the conductor laureat for the Boston Pops. Jack said,
Sterne Has is the conductor lariat. Oh, I fucking can't ten commandments
the coach has noted how Vince is like Charlton Heston and will be the mill.
Listening to the Heston n R clips makes me need someone to photoshop Vince
holding w w WEE with the text from Heston's cold Dead hands line in Vince
about to push the button got it. Uh, a shark attack, a
riff about the obituary for a principal secretary Mary McDonald on the tea in Boston.
But oh sure, this is a good one. Man, I forgot
about this. Oh what is it saying Mary mcconald's that pitture? What does
it say? What does it say? Well, we said we didn't.
We said she always smelled like yesterdays. She always smelled like yesterday's. Did
We played a clip of a podcast interview with someone involved making the movie,
and shodcast was not a podcast. And if you were a park parkin Oh,
oh god, oh shit, the mailbag workout with Oh god, seriously,
it really is Marine four JP reds are mixed metrics from Vince on an
investor's call. Can we get a fixed metrics or a mixed metrics arts shirt?
Jack had an incredible line, Dolph doesn't DOLP doesn't sell. He offers
Marine five. Someone coined the name Marine Man Randy Savage. What I'm digging
that? Uh huh? Here we go into the movies. Here I think
we're gonna do Marine Man, Marine number seven, Marine Man Randy Savage,
coming to serve your duty. Bone saw nos bone saw is ready for the
marine man last action here. During a riff on upset locals, Jack and
I Pitch Squeal said my property values unbelievable. The wrestler in two thousand and
eight, Mickey Rourke said about his character, quote, I hope he dies.
It's the only thing going for him. After a click clock clip of
Roork about heaven saying quote, my brother's over there and the girls are over
there, Jack responded legend alert. Jack said he would say cunt in James
Linton's face. JP did the right thing. He was shameless and getting cameos
from wrestlers. He said he was a fan of Blue MIENI since the e
c W dayson, even better than he was a fan of Asty since the
DNA days. That's what I do, That's what I do. Agreed,
everybody should salut JP for his efforts instead of Darren Aronowski. How just how
willing are you to call the movie? The sports entertainer Terry Gross described wrestling
as the quote theater of cruelty and suffering. Theater what what do you mean?
What? But get rid of that part of it? Cruelty and suffering
and alone. During a sex scene in Rahway, New Jersey. Jack said
he was tearing her the raw way. Oh God. The wrestler. In
nineteen seventy four, Eugene gump Enough said I think it was JP who said
ed astors quote unending squest, unending quest for snatch regarding his relents, et
J be rid about squaring the beef, and Jackson like, what, oh
God, my good things? We say so so we just say them to
hear ourselves saying I know, it's like, you know, there's there's It's
just like, you know, it's just constantly saying ship, not knowing what's
gonna be the one that that that has us rolling on the floor. But
just try to get there. Just fucking keep throwing words out there, and
if one of them works, it's gonna go oh shit. I love hearing
about Vern getting out conned by David Friedman Beyond the Mat after a clip of
the director having shame about naming a favorite Matt shape, he said, in
the United States of America, it is unacceptable to be a professional wrestling fan.
Talking about the director's wife hiring Dusty for his birthday, Jack said,
so Virgil, it was worth the money. Oh God, an incredible line.
He says laps. Vincent to Barry blaustein ari his Parkinson's I I did
not give you Parkinson's. I deny it. I always knew you had a
steady hand as a shit Jesus Christ. Jack said, Vince sends Bury a
package every week that says fragile, do not drop laps. Vince then gave
instructions to some underling. All right, hide behind a bush film it.
Then throw a rock in his head, in his head, or better yet,
the rock, ah, Jack, that's what it sounds like, intern
like taking the rock up over his head and throwing him. Jack said,
throw a rock. That's a very big last and said just throw Dwayne.
Oh god, Jake on a podcast with Conrad. You can't do cocaine and
do a job, Jack. That's why okan always money. Has t l
Lef made a life is about food? Shirt? Yet no, this line
you come up again during this episode because you called blouse and a master destroy
Tillip for specifying on the commentary track that Jake was eating taco bell nachos.
Jack, in response to Jake getting angry, You know who is most upset
about about being lied to liars? They are mad you lied to them before
they could lie to you. If there is a lapse, Hall of Fame,
Dennis Stamps, I'm not booked. Poem belongs there. Blousing also said
when wrestlers say brother, they mean bullshit. Yep, please give me a
lapse. Hope brother what brother? No bull brother, not bullshit, just
brother. What? After reading Dennis's boring grandfather like stories, Jack said,
it is like Romney was a wrestler. Someone coined taco Michinoka, Taco roll
Michinoku, uh JP kepacks and calling Dennis as Terrence Stamp. That's funny because
Terrence Stamp is as an actor. When talking about Dennis's death, he was
quoted as saying the quote only time I was really alive was in the ring.
Jack said, or electrify me. In response to Terry Funk saying the
only place you show real pain is at home with family, and that it
is worse when they know it is fake but you are really hurt. Wow,
Jack lob Blausen saying he was disturbed that fully went to Vince when he
wasn't even an employee and that quote Vince's might as touch as that disappointing him
would be the worst days of their lives. Bingo JP said about Roland Alexander,
he has never earned honest dollar in his life. Know me, when
JULIETT. Hogan and a Clip said, he quote isn't strictly Dickley, So
one of you said the occasionally, Oh Jesus, Ryan's like the fucking best,
these little assaults. Oh my god. Everyone remembers the big sweeping bits,
you know, but this ship is like, yeah, the things we
say that, you know, like just fucking out of nowhere, last in
the moment and poof, they just go away. Okay, oh man,
get ready, here we go wrestle Mamia. I'm for the home stretch of
this holy shit elimination chamber With edge cash in, Mama hypothesized that Scena became
less edgy and more clean cut because, quote me, maybe his mother asked
him to do that wrestle Mamia, moat tear only boss sits with his mom
and watches old matches and it is it is everything. We just did another
session and we did wrestle bating weekend and oh my god, god, I
can't wait for you to hear some of this fun ship. After the cash
in, she was livid. And said, quote, it's not fair.
Somebody should write to whomever takes care of this and require at least twenty four
hours. She got so mad talking to JP that she said, quote,
it shouldn't John Peter incredible, it's incredible. Oh shit, Eddie versus Ray
Halloween Having ninety seven, Mama asked about w W and w W E,
then asked if w w W is still around. Should be said those are
websites she has raised the Purple Guy and the other guy. She said that
I guess so, so Ray is the purple guy and the other guy is
Marty Martyre. Should be said, yes, Marty Guerrero, correcting her later,
Marty, I'd like to see a match between Ray and Marty fucking takes
place in a fucking uh uh uh in like a garage fucking freaking morning Ray
and Martin happening. He had a fucking uh you know, auto body shop.
The legendary battle between Ray and Marty. The very end of the match,
she asked, do you think it smells near the ring because of all
the of all the estrogen or whatever? You call it? An amazing question
and I do think, she said ring rather than ring ninety five Halloween ha
ac tag JP's plain Flair wasn't out for the start of the match because he
was attacked backstage. Mama said, quote that should be illegal. Fighting is
in the ring knock something out, so knock something out of a potential forsome
doesn't appropriate, replied did? They replied, I don't recall if there was
a lawsuit after that. At the end, JP kept asking your thoughts on
Ric Flair. Mama kept ignoring. Eventually said, I thought you meant it
was a book foughts on Rick Flair. This is everything, This is great
feating Rawland telling us so. Mama asked about seth rawlins is what the fuck
did sname prentice? Name apprentice? She asked one year it took place,
and JP said twenty nineteen. Mama said, no, wonder this country in
the world are getting more and more disturbed. Huh Ray Mulenko, JP explained
cruiser weight them. Hamma asked, it isn't lightweight, medium weight and heavyweight.
She said, so many two is not making it to three. They
must be exhausted in the out. Oh my god. She was appalled by
Malenko winning with his feet on the ropes and asked the the movie man saw
it is about how they gage it the camera man. She also she also
that's why there aren't replays like football severs Series eighty eight. Mama asked about
how Vince paid the wrestlers and said, did that guy who was retiring Vince
have have all that paperwork? Unbelievable. She also yd Fooji get out,
Oh God starkad Bugsy mcraw match. Mama asked, did you say did you
say he's Irish? I go No, I did not, and that's the
end of that one. Oh my God, Flair a Stark eighty three.
Mama described Flair during his entrance almost like a hinto priest or royalty. JP
said to watch for the referee gen Kinisky that Mama said, oh Polish.
That might be one of the fiest tour statements in podcast history. She asked,
is this Chrisinski still in the picture before JB clarified that Kinsky, not
Krasinski, is dead. JP told her about fans going to wrestling after Thanksgiving
dinner, which I do, Ima, saying I'd be throwing up the turkey
with something this gory sorrows, some absolute treasure w W E c W Chamber.
JP explained that Paul Hayman was the head booker, and Mama said,
I thought you said head booker. Oh god, yes, whaling Mercy Savio
Vega. JP said Whalen looked like he was in a psych Word then asked
how he could wrestle if he was in a psych ward. JP said,
I don't know. I don't know how the contracts work was used the star
of the episodes, but JP was MP like her Pilman fine the last one.
Mamaske JP if he ever went to a wrestling show, priest what she
asked you, if you've ever been to a wrestling show with it? But
you know she hadn't she I would imagine she gave a name because there used
to be when I was when That's how I got into wrestling, if you
remember. So they would do they would sing it at at at Mass and
they'd sing a different churches they do the singing and and your parents my parents
sorry, I'm trying to gather myself, and and had one of them.
It was, uh, this one, priest was my parents knew for years,
like they would you know, they used to like long long time and
so at this on the Sunday Mass, because I'd go like we'd do Mass
Saturday and Sunday because they'd seen it both days nauseating, and so I'd go
Saturday nights and then on Sundays the priest that was a friend of the family
would let me go and watch TV at the rectory and I would watch.
That's where I stumbled on wrestling. That's where I stumbled on fucking you know
sat all American wrestling and started it all. So I think she was asking
about fat priest and not just a priest. But anyway, what a bizarre
question. She then mentioned a local scandal, then clarify, all yeah,
because it was about father father Roland. She then mentioned a local scandal that
and then clarified it was not with boys, but the priest was gay.
Make people for the dear. I don't know what will Ryan, thank you.
I'm going to bed now a buss You are right. Holy shit,
Wow, that is too. That is unfucking real. Really one of that
last fucking an hour and a half truly is unbelievable stuff there, Jesus,
you know that's what we do. All right, I'm gonna go, you
do the next one. We feel my water and Brian apologies. We couldn't
connect after WrestleMania got really hectic. But man, what service to the solar
system keeping track of things like that, especially for folks who don't know about
wrestle Mommia. Man, it's available into the moat tiers, so we understand
if it's too rich for some blood. But I'm telling you, I've done
a couple of these now, sitting in the living room with them, and
it's it is. You have no idea what she's going to say next.
You have no idea what she's going to lean into and notice, and what
she's not gonna notice You just can never tell with the come out of her
mouth. It's it's. It's a remarkable thing because it's it's organic, man,
it is, and it's as real as it gets. There's no shtick.
It's just this. It's just the most honest like thing I've ever heard
in terms of trying to replicate that feeling of being being a kid and watching
pro wrestling in a room where people who aren't fans are sitting there and letting
you watch it, and just like weighing in or asking these questions that are
so kind of like prosaic and quaint and and like almost like innocent, but
but also kind of there's a little sting to the questions because it's like it's
it's a it's in some ways acknowledging that you're kind of ridiculous for watching this
stuff. Oh man, all right, hugely, thank you for the pledge.
We appreciated. Eric Coleman, thanks for the cake. That's what's up.
Jordan Galbraith, you are absolutely goddamn correct. Thank you for the cheese.
Chris k, thank you very much. Johnny C. Welcome in.
Welcome to that premium taste, my friend. We we very much appreciate your
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and our boy Kai boats underground. Of course, I thank you in atonement
and lapsed moments in life. He writes, Dear co chairs of Harsh cruel
ass Pain, I'm writing to you today fully aware that I missed the winter
mail bag, but I needed to get a letter in. It's been two
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and that's okay, because you beefcakes are busy enough as it is.
I wanted to write you to thank you for the countless hours of entertainment that
fill my ear holes daily. I've mentioned before that I'm a postal carrier,
and while it's not best practice to wear headphones while I work, I can't
help it. I throw in those white ear pods and get lost in the
cabanish journeys TLF provides. This particular funk journey brought me pain, happiness,
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of his ass. I think I always said that one now the atonement he
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when they were on their playoff run, I lapsed from TLF to focus on
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Taylor Swift screw job. I'm back one hundred po so I'm in confession right
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the Department of Transportation is making a conscious effort to limit drunk driving by
putting messages on those big sign boards that hang on overpasses. One says,
bring a d D to your next party. I told my wife, bring
your dunkin Donuts to your next party? Damn right, maybe a lage regular.
What does a DD mean? Bring a DDT desert driver? Oh yeah,
she laughed. Two whichever is amazing that someone's saying that in Hawaii.
Whether I don't think they're already duncans, I can't remember it right now.
Whenever I see a particularly disturbing hairstyle or fashion style, I tell my wife
that is not appropriate. Yes, that's awesome. Three When my wife thanks
me for something I did, I always reply, in typical Hogan fashion,
thank you for Four I use my Jesse Ventura impression when we go to eat
Mexican and my wife is taken to have conversation with me and call me Jesse.
It helps that you like to Jimmy Changa's Yes, what are we doing
to people? We are doing the right thing. Lastly, a shameful story.
The Royal Rumble is my favorite time of year, and I will watch
previous rumbles to get excited and remind myself that things used to be better.
So I thought that I would ask my wife this year if she wanted to
watch the Rumbles with me. It could bring it was something cool for us
to do, and I could show her some history this product. That is
the sole reason why we still have cable to this day. A response,
why would I want to do that? Sounds boring? Agree, Shaven Pain.
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If you are a lapsed fan and are currently going through the catalog and doubting
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Kaypo from Hawaii. Currently seventy degrees in Sunday outside and we have people
wearing bubble jackets. Ridiculous, I know. He asked, perhaps boss Man
can indulge me as I pop a quarter into the lap jukebox. I don't
know if you're Laps Vince singing Teddy by Austen Junior song I Come from money.
Thank you. I don't have it right now, Okay, understandable.
Look, it's there's a reason people ask and don't request, because it's not
always a yes, it's fine, but that that's just wonderful stuff. And
you know he's talking about how you know, stick with the catalog, keep
on going on. It gets better and better every now and someone will have
the bright idea, as you well know, boss of saying, hey,
laps Fan used to be better too. Oh yes, and I'll think it,
okay, fair if that's If that's your opinion, I respect it.
However, you're gonna ask yourself a question, yes, is it us that
used to be better or is it you? I agree in every sense of
the term. I agree that the conversation is that I I also, you
know you, I'll say this, you did take the time to comment and
that steercoa chairman. Some like it hot. I think this one might be
more a little more for you because it's that's a great episode sitting there for
you right now, absolutely in the EP and above tier some like it hot,
Marilyn Monroe and what's the rest of the people. It was our two
actually there were two. I don't remember the second guy because he was a
last minute discovery. But for sure we have Mike mczerki, who has a
significant role in the movie, and uh, you know he qualifies on just
how fucking mh brilliant he is. I should note too, also another big
thank you to Tom Antanasio for providing us and oh my good by us.
By us, it's me who inherited a fucking arcade wrestleast tabletop arcade, tabletop
arcade. I mean it's also got I mean, listen, anyone who's gotten
those these that this these consoles, that are these bizarre phenomenons that they've got,
Like it's got like five thousand games on it. It's got like every
arcade game that you could fucking possibly imagine from would from back in the day
and like nineteen ninety three to have an arcade cabinet in my fucking house.
Oh my god, Oh my god. It in like a free one too,
for that matter, like one that you wouldn't have to fucking actually you
know, fucking uh uh uh, you know, shove coins in. But
like it's got, it's got. It's got not only does that have Wrestle
Fast, it has all the wrestling games. It has uh, it has
Superstars, the other arcade game. It has a bunch of unknown games that
I've never heard of before. It's got the original World Championship Wrestling game on
it. No, it's not, but they have a bunch of Nintendo games
too. What it's got the original WrestleMania, It's got WrestleMania Challenge, Super
WrestleMania for both Genesis and Super Nintendo. It's got both Royal Rumble games.
It's got just a ton of fucking It's also got a bunch of like Japanese
wrestling games as well. It's wild, It's it's chock full of shit.
Let alone. I mean, that's just wrestling games. It's also got all
the Ninja Turtle Arcade games, the Simpsons arcade games and the Nintendo versions.
It's it's loaded with shit. It's unbelievable. What lifetime goal you've had in
wrestle Fest that now you have the chance to actually realize. I well,
actually, it's funny you brought this up too, because uh so, finally
I can now achieve the goal of eliminating all the gay from from the from
the game. And I was playing. Listen, I will admit I probably
play russell Fest at least once a day. You know. It's like kind
of right there in my basement. I do a rumble, you know,
and and the goal is to be Hogan and eliminated every Hogan el eleven other
people. I did find a loophole, especially in this free version, because
I can add people. I can add people as a second player, So
when it came down to me and the last person, I just kept adding
somebody, and so I ended up eliminating fifteen people in a game that has
twelve royal Rumble participants. Wow, because I had like, so you did
it. I did do it, but I'll say this, it wasn't legitimate.
But I was glad to get the top high score for once. But
I do want to try to legitimately eliminate all eleven eleven guys. It's hard.
It's very hard because there's no way to control. If there was a
way that could really control how to body slam people over the top rope,
it would work. But it's not an easy thing to do. Like it's
not it's not like the moves have you know, moves are different like they
they all change. Like you know, if you do if you grapple with
somebody and are like pushing the buttons and going with the left for the joystick,
it'll be a different move each time. It doesn't you know, it
doesn't matter like it's it's it's very non sensical in that way. But I
do want to do it legitimately. But I did. I did get that
top score for once, but I know it was I cheated. I will
admit that I did cheat to get it. But it'll happen. I'll get
there. I will uh tom Atchinasio, dear coach chairman. I thoroughly enjoyed
the cinemat journey through Something like It Hot, especially the conversation about Wilder pushing
the envelope on sexual content with the Hayes Code still an effect. I talked
Billy Wilder, mister Billy Wilder, the incredible filmmaker who will very well acquainted
with episode indeed, and you know we we'll definitely be able to revisit him
there. You know, there have been some I wanted to. I was
very hoping to get to get the Sunset Boulevard as uh put that on the
list. And I guess the the ae W character, the the black and
White woman, she did all the stuff in black and white. What's her
name? I guess her stuff is directly based on, Yes, the character
of Nesma of Norma Desmond. Yeah. So, so that that right there
qualifies Sunset Boulevard. I taught a course on the Hayes Code about twelve years
ago now, and I alway found the pre code films and the fight around
the enforcement of the code fascinating, especially the mythology of the code, which
made the states in Hollywood in particular, seem a lot more chase than it
really was. Really. The Code, although officially enforced from nineteen thirty four,
didn't really come into full effect until nineteen thirty nine, and from the
beginning, filmmakers and studio heads were focused on ways to get around it.
With the rise of noirs in the late forties, there were a bunch of
films that really started to push the envelope, most notably Notorious, The Lady
from Shanghai and Strangers on a Train Hall all Hitchcock films, or Lady from
Shanga. I don't think it's a Hitchcock film, but Notorious and Strangers on
a Trainer. In the early fifties, there was the attempts at a crackdown,
with McCarthy IDEs arguing that as part of the Communist infiltration of Hollywood,
they were trying to inject more depravity into our films, really all our entertainment,
which would inevitably lead to moral degradation, which would in turn weaken the
country during I love how of it? Like, so the communist infiltration was
all about, like destroying the morals of the country. That's what it was
all about. I guess I don't get me started. It's kind of funny,
like when you think about it, like you think about all the countries
and how strict those communist countries are or were or whatever, and it's like
you like, well, it doesn't seem like they'd want to open the censorship
they'd want to close the censorship. They want to make even tighter, not
just run, you know, run rampant shit, but whatever. During this
period, essentially from nineteen fifty one to nineteen fifty six, the Hayes Code
was more strictly enforced whenever possible by various censorship boards, and there was also
a crackdown on comics, leading to the Comic Book Code of nineteen fifty four.
We did talk about that, what do we talk about that? Maybe
with Batman with that return, I think so, I talked about it with
them. With American films, more tightly controlled print exploded, especially pulp fiction
novels and magazines, eventually leading to the release of the first Playboy in December
nineteen fifty three, which we did talk about with some like it hot.
While these types of publications had done increasingly well since the late nineteen twenties,
the early fifties saw a marked rise in sales as Americans turned to print to
provide more titillating stories images a few examples attached. By mid fifties, foreign
films not restricted by the Hayes Code started garnering big box office receipts, even
with the limited releases, and the studios decided to push back, culminating with
Jane Mansfield in The Girl Can't Help It in nineteen fifty six, which essentially
was a one hundred minute showcase of Mansfield's considerable cleavage. Despite bad reviews,
The Girl Can't Help It was a hit and there was no going back,
and studios rushed to greenlight movies that skirted the code or in some cases just
outright ignorore as for Some Like It Hot. Wilder, who had worked in
the completely uncensored Weimar Republic, had always fought to get as much innuendo and
skin in his pictures as possible, believing strongly that americans puritanical ideas of sex
were not only absurd but unhealthy. Some Like It Hot was the type of
movie Wylder had tried to get past studio sensors for years, to no avail.
As soon as it became clear the studios had decided to effectively ignore the
code, Wilder jumped on the Champs to make a big budget production for the
time that really took aim at what he considered completely fictional American morals. The
studios pushed to set the film in the nineteen twenties, because of the nineteen
twenties reputation for having loose morals during Prohibition and the fact that it would take
place in the pre code era. If the sensors pushed back, they would
argue they were telling a pre code story. Look at that, and that's
funny. Oh, we're basically making a pre code movie that. Look but
no, see, see, it's taking place as a commentary right on pre
code morals and the lack of so we're just kind of you know, geez
see, it's very moral in its immorality. Say that again, a point
studio lawyers actually used when Kansas initially refused to show the film. At the
same Wilder's sometimes rival Hitchcock had begun pre production on his sexually charged Cold War
thriller north By Northwest. Oh God, please somebody find me, get me
a reason? Is that right? Oh? I would love to dissect north
By Northwest. Wilder and Hitchcock had a strange relationship. Both men were foreign
filmmakers who came up in the nineteen twenties, Both were disciples of Ernest Lubitch,
and both had had unbelievable success in the States. But they didn't really
know each other, and although they were never outwardly hostile, they were incredibly
competitive, especially after Sunset Boulevard, when critics began crediting Wilder for out hitchcocking
Hitchcock. Anyway, the making of Hot and north By Northwest, Wilder and
Hitchcock both were trying to include as much sexual content as they could reasonably get
away with, and rumor has it they were actually trying to outdo the other
on this front. Thanks to Marilyn Monroe and the boat scene, Wilder won
this battle out right. North By Northwest doesn't fuck around when it comes telling
a very adult story, but it doesn't have anything like the boat sex scene.
Some like it. Hot Hot also was critically and commercially a much bigger
hit than north By Northwest. Interestingly enough, the boat scene in HoTT is
credited for leading directly to the shower scene in Psycho and the Trevie Fountain scene
in La dolce Vita. With Boat, Hitchcock and Fellini determined to go further
than Wilder to great box office and critical success, the hit hotchkick Denny Hudge.
The Hitchcock Wilder rivalry, if it can be called, that ended in
nineteen sixty when Hitchcock broke the ice after seeing the Apartment, writing Wilder to
express his admiration for the film. Anyway, this is a very long winded
way of saying that while every one in the movie business was careful with how
much skin slash sexual sexualized content they showed between nineteen thirty five to fifty five,
the Code was never quite as stingents as it's made out to be now.
Wilder in Hitchcock especially hated it because they felt it was completely hypocritical to
what American society was like during the time. Sorry, this is so ridiculously
long. Started with the idea of throwing in a bit of context and ended
up with this monstrosity. Please feel free to ignore all of it. Oh
it's good stuff. There no way I love about that anything. I was
surprising to you in there. Yeah, I didn't know about the Hitchcock Wilder
rivalry. I'd also didn't really, I mean, because yeah, look,
look I took I took my fair share of history of you know, media
classes and whatever in college, and everyone talked about the fucking the Code like
it was like it was the law, Like it wasn't even a code.
It was like the law. So it's interesting to hear that it really wasn't
and that that's kind of a more modern take on questions. Yeah, you
know, and and I mean, listen the fucking it really makes sense that
to hear them, to hear Hitchcock. I mean, have you seen north
By Northwest? A great movie? And I just watched it again recently,
and it's very true, like there is a lot of like there's a lot
of of of a really extreme sexual innuendo and it's uh, I don't want
to spoil anything, so hopefully we'll be able to go to watch it's wonderful,
wonderful reason. I don't have a reason yet. Yeah, but solar
system activating, get on it. Fine, give me, give me north
By Northwest. Please tell them about another great letter. On a recent episode
of Under the Cinemat, I don't remember what movie this was, but remember
we were talking about filming a novel page by page. Yeah, yeah,
that was that was probably it was recent. It was one of the one
of the Bond films. It might have been Casino Royale actually might have been.
I feel like playing around with this idea that you know, in a
Netflix world where you can do forty projects, one hundred hour projects. Why
hasn't someone taken a classic novel and tried to represent every page of said novel
on the screen as opposed to trying to, you know, sum it all
up at an hour and a half. And Tom did some research. J
your co chairman. I've been thinking a lot about Jack's idea of filming a
novel page by page, something obviously easter to do as a TV series,
but readily really definitely conceptually more interesting as a film. We've talked about experiential
experimental films before that you do in real time where the audience sleeps at the
same time the characters on screen sleep, and when the characters wake up at
six am or whatever, the film continues whether the audience, who has slept
in the theater is up or not. Jack's idea is obviously much more palatable,
but similar in theory. As Jack pointed out, Michael Winterbottom's adaptation of
Tristram Shandy is a great example of trying to adhere to themes of a book
that is Jack noted as near impossible to film. Pete Anderson's in Here Advice
is page by page for a while and then loses the thread and kind of
becomes a mess. To Kill a Mockingbird and Green Mile are often cited as
the most accurate adaptations of all times. Stephen King was particularly fond of Green
Mile, but neither is still anything close to what you are talking about.
The two projects that come to mind that are in this realm but aren't based
on books is Charlie Kaufman's Senectady, New York. I remember hearing about it,
but it never saw it. And Iyah Krassamski's deau Cinema Senectai New York
features a theater director using his Arthur Fellowship to create a piece of brutalist realism
where he tries to recreate all the pain of his real life at an experimental
theater piece. Kind of a depiction of what might happen if a director actually
tried to adapt a specially difficult material page by page. Interesting, definitely worth
your time if you haven't seen it it allth Admittedly it tends to elicit fairly
strong opinions. Ilia Krasamsky's dau Cinema project began in two thousand and seven as
a feature attempting to be the most realistic depiction of the post Stalinist Soviet Union
ever made, eventually morphed into multiple films and other art pieces meant to use
film to accurately provide a living memorial, essentially a real reenactment of Soviet life.
As absurd as that sounds, Wow, this is getting there. GQ
visited the set of DAU in twenty eleven and wrote about the insanity that was
going on there even then, as the film had evolved into a really occult
even at that point. The first films to come out of DAU didn't premiere
until nine years later at the Berlinale, right before the pandemic. I have
watched most of the films, and it might be close to what you'd get
if you tried page by page, something like Thomas Pinson's V or maybe Caz's
Sometimes a Great Nation. I don't know. The whole thing is utterly insane,
and the movies themselves are a mixed bag. There was a real brilliance
and a few of them, and self indulgent shite in others. It's hard
to get your head around. But thought, as you were masters of the
postmodern uber modern arts, you might get a kick out of exploring it a
bit. Definitely nothing. I didn't know Uber was doing modern arts now instead
of just all yeah, as long as as long as you know they're not
responsible for your car, that's true. Definitely nothing else quite like DAU and
the history of Cinema. Here's the official link to DAU World, and I've
also attached the gqu article which you made run across before I got to check
these out. This is fucking dangerous. The something that I'll come back a
changed man. Yes, I think so. DAU Cinema, Wow, all
the conclusion. I'd like Jack's idea. There's definitely something there. Picking the
right book that could attract the financing is an interesting puzzle in itself, but
definitely fascinating to consider. Thanks for everything, as usual, especially the food
for thought you've been shoving down our gullets in the first few months of the
TLFX celebration. Gonna be a banner year already, is yours and Cinamania Tom
exactly true. The book is Gulliver's Travels. If you ask me, that's
the book, page by page. Yeah, man. Brian Ferriss, always
such a strong supporter, sends us some cake and says heading to Saudi Thursday.
I just found out about it yesterday. Salute. I think he's back.
I watched the crappy pl Saturday, but somehow with my CoA chairs,
describing the action always makes it sound a couple of stars better. In my
book, wife is less than thrilled. I'm going, and honestly so am
I. But this dropping tonight was just what I needed. I'll be back
in four long alcohol free weeks. Here's fifty bucks drink one for me.
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It's just it just tends to happen that way, you know. It does.
All of a sudden, someone has like Kevin Gleeson, we want to
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You know. Oh you're damn right, Spring twenty twenty four. Go
ahead. It's a cliche and joke these days to say men will do anything
except go to therapy. Well, wrestling is my therapy, and that fucking
cast is a big part of that. Don't get me wrong. I go
to real therapy too, but without a few hours a week of rectal wreckage
from TLF, I'm just not the same. I wish I could say that
I have a specific memory that I'm looking up on LATS, but unfortunately a
life of epilepsy impossible, probably probable CTE from being an indie wrestler myself has
ruined my memory and is a big contributing factory to my depression and anxiety.
Memories come and go like snippets. What I do know is that I found
TLF by happenstance during the Ben Wah tragedy Deep Dive. I was a funeral
director at the time and listened for hours while driving around the city picking up
bodies. A few months later, as I was getting back into being an
active part of wrestling by becoming a manager and commentator, safely away from any
more shots to the head, cabana man Dan and I were in the locker
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And now, seven years later, as I do commentary and occasionally agent
matches for Spartan Pro Wrestling, sometimes I sometimes have to remind our students that
while we work our asses off and should be proud of what we do,
never forget that wrestling is still fake fighting ye bullshit amazing and should be taken
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these young indie wrestlers as best I can in ways that will hopefully benefit them
doing it because I didn't have the same help to the same extent, I
turn on TIA left to laugh to remember when it was better to start a
conversation in my head about something the co chairs that that I might agree with
or disagree with. To push the goddamn intrusive thoughts away, just so I
can hang out with my wife and my daughter and not be a distant,
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like many other members of the Solar System do. I'm sure that we could
thank you more, but a few months at a time donating on Patreon is
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sir, Scott Scott Resner. That's correct. Fuck it, let's go all
right, get in on that circle, do the right thing. Will went
through up our best pal makes it great point. Oh boy. The Vince
McMahon story would need to be told in a TV series with multiple actors of
different ages taking on the role, similar to the Crown and for current Vince
he's putting forward ray Wise. Oh, it's a good one. I don't
know what ray Wise do. I Yeah, he's good. He's a great,
great actor. I still god just like him in some way. He's
got a lot, he's got like the same pampadour hair. Yeah, yeah,
I still think I still stay with with with Brolin. I think Brolin
would be the fucking money one. But no, But how about this notion
of different vinces different I do like that for different eras. For sure,
that's a great idea. I can see a team that you remember that that
fucking uh oh god, I can't think of the goddamn guy. He's a
give me anything to go on here, pal, I know he's Uh,
he's a legendary singer, a weird, weird voice. Oh my god,
this is good for what this person? This the reason that they did a
movie about him that was played by different actors of different genders as well.
Yeah, the fuck uh Bob Dylan, Bob Dylan. Jesus, So they
did a movie about Bob Dylan different actors for different points of his life.
Yeah, and like different, Like it's not a real accurate it's called I'm
not there it's not a completely accurate, like it's more thematically accurate of a
biopic, like yeah, they say six right, they different they do,
like different different eras of his life, different actors play him, Like even
Kate planned Chett plays him at one point. Yeah, I think that'd be
totally So that's a great idea for Vince. Yeah, because that's the thing.
He's totally different people. I mean, he probably has the same deep
inner monologue, but I mean the Vince that's like sitting at his desk doing
interviews in nineteen eighty five about this thing being on NBC and how they actually,
you know, take it, take it as seriously as any scripted drama
and Dick eversol vouching for him, and he's sort of like, you know,
the one that was on David Letterman New Years and eighty four doing the
New Year's Baby thing. I remember we looked at that. That's a different
Vince, the one that's half like cup salesman and half wrestling TV announcer.
Yes, still trying to win his father's favor kind of being let in the
front door of the business, versus the Vince that was going to East Carolina
and trying to like make his make his way in the world independent of pro
wrestling, perhaps, I mean especially one of Matt Linda fascinating if you look,
I mean especially you know Ray Wise in Twin Peaks, m specifically the
movie he is so fucking creepy, and he is so horrifying in Fire Walk
with Me that it would be he would be great as like as as creepy
Vince, you know, as as as perverted, as as the diabolical Vince
that we have been exposed to in recent months. Fascinating. Yep, so
he would be. He would be the final boss one. Oh yeah,
I was thinking Richard Lewis before he died, Poor Richard Lewis. I just
finished watching Finish, Yes I did. I did, like something, isn't
it? It was? It was, it was great. I loved it.
I love yeah, Yeah, I mean I there's you know whenever they
have whenever, like I love that they that they sparingly had Jerry Seinfeld in
the series, like just very minimal, which is great because the times that
he is there, it's so fucking money. Yeah, it's like rock coming
back to right right, Like the exchanges they have there's such like you can
just the the it would be like, you know, like the two of
us doing a movie scene, like if I was doing a whole if if
one of us is doing a show, and then we just had a couple
of guest appearances and just said just do whatever, and like we just rambly,
you know, ramble on about weird shit and talk about King of the
Ring ninety three and you know, and and bizarre puns and shit like that's
it. And and they're talking about the you know, if she had a
beard but she shaved it. Yeah, right, Like it's like, what
do you think about in the courtroom? And this is it? This is
what he fucking thinks about in the courtroom the whole time about the beard?
Is it rabbinical? Very rabbinical. Ah, we're going to miss that show.
That was the last gasp that right there of its kind. We want
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cock Johnson. We'll take it right in the wallet. Something that's available to
MOAT tier members that's occasional but very special that we decide only to share with
them is the call mm hm. When we find out about someone of prominence
in wrestling business passing away, as any longtime listener to the show now is
our tradition between us is to make the call to see who can be the
first to call the other to make the announcement. And of course the call
is simply the name of the dearly departed. We decided why not, you
know, if if if the moat tear is going to be, you know,
closer to the heart of the cast, in the heart of the co
chair, why not share with that exclusive company that this idea. And when
Only Anderson passed away, dig I was able to get Boss you know on
the horn to record his immediate reaction just to the name Only Anderson, but
also the passing of Virgil. Oh yes, and the reaction to the Virgil
news was huge and said in motion. Of course, the tribute shows that
we did that. You're going to hear some pieces of feedback from here at
a moment. But folks like Vernon pointing out this makes only and Virgil I
found out via the call. Okay, folks are finding out about this.
Yeah, yes, our Patreon, Yes, that's how lapps. They are
Oh, they find out on our Patreon before they find out anywhere else that
Virgil died. Austin writes, this is becoming my preferred way of finding out
about wrestler deaths. It's amazing, Zach writes. When I hear these,
I almost feel like the moats tier, the mote tears. Existence is killing
people. Jesus, doctor Wiz. Pip, thanks for the increase in pledge.
We appreciate it. Mark Sullivan, welcome into the en circle. My
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My man, thanks very much. Timothy Wiss, thank you very much
for the cake. Mike points out we did the Hogan thing that. Not
only did the Madison Square Garden program the night he defeated the Aron Chiek mention
Hogan's blasty connection, but so did Backlan when endorsing Hogan, saying Hogan told
me he's not running around with Blassy anymore. We talked about how wow,
last I've seen him on one of the double oh seven episodes. Carlos Stallion
rights after watching Doctor No again for the first time since I was a kid
when I rented all the Bond movies in Beta Max in the eighties. I've
got two takeaways. One, Double O seven has desires, Yes, Two
Double O seven has needs. That's all true, pretty well established. Yes,
absolutely definitely. I think Double O seven it's very It's a very accurate
statement to say he has desires, and I think it's an equally accurate statement
to say that he has needs, and he will fulfill both desires. Every
every single movie he seems to he will fulfill desire and necessity to his heart
looking at what he wants, Yes, and what he wants melts before him.
That's right, very simile. Pushy our pal Moondog Murray writes the following,
Terry Funk Forever here, co Chairs. I want to start by thanking
you for reading my email about the fak a w a show I wrestled on.
Actually had another member of the Solar System reach out to me about that.
I recently celebrated three years and two hundred matches wrestled in the Midwest,
California and Texas. Very cool. Anyways, I just want to thank you
both for going in depth that you always do in these journeys. However,
there was something special about the Lapsed Funk Journey. Every episode I listen to
while on the way to shows I was working, and on the way home,
each layer of terror you both noticed, whether it was watching his matches
or listening to his promos and shoot interviews, helped me better understand pro wrestling.
Yes, miss and accomplished. Fuck It. Lapsed Funk Journey, I
feel has made me better understand my role and gave me ideas on how to
sell, how to do promos, how to work, and most importantly,
how to make my and it looked like a monster in the ring, the
bashful babyface. The appreciation of fans and understanding there's no us without them.
You'd be surprised how many wrestlers on the gudias and even worse promoters forget that.
Now I approach fans and mingle with them with the intention of connecting with
them, make them feel like I'm their guy fighting for them in there as
well as sell some gimmicks. That was another thing I picked up on with
Terry during the journey was him connecting enough with the people, but also being
able to make money off those same people merchant ticket wise. Yeah, it's
so how it should be. Yeah, right, yep. You don't have
to you don't have to trick people into supporting you financially. You just have
to deliver for them. It's very simple. There's no there's no voodoo involved.
You just deliver and they're more than happy to pay. And if they're
not, then you know, fuck them, right, I mean, they're
they're going to float away eventually anyway. You can't concern yourself with them.
And yeah, that's that's what Terry Funk's career stands and testament to. We
just read an email a little bit before in this very show about how much
of that autograph meant to that guy. Right, it's exactly that's Terry Funk.
Okay, you can get autographs from anybody, but you not going to
remember it like you did at Terry funk autograph. Because he understood every single
dimension of being a pro wrestler in out of the ring. He knew how
to be a pro wrestler twenty four to seven in a way where he can
look in the camera and say, I live the way I want to live
now without having a kiss Fince's ass as he told Dark Side of the Ring
and the Unheard podcast that we help with amazing. When it came time for
me to listen to the final episode, I was on my way to a
show in the Green Bay, Wisconsin area. You were both watching Terry's actual
last match. When I heard the opening chords to Desperado and hearing you both
describers we were seeing, I broke down and cried because I knew the long
lapsed Funk journey was just about over. It was thanks to this journey I
became an even bigger Terry Funk fan, and I learned so much listening to
it. Knowing wrestling is now without someone of his Staturette crushed me. I
couldn't help it be sad. However, it also lit a fire under me
and I went on to have a pretty fun match. I walked in the
match with the Funker in the back of my mind. When it came to
giving and selling, I worked with a VET who was very giving himself and
even out of his way to change the finish from him going over to me
going over instead. In an Indian wrestling world full of selfish, never was
vet's clutching out of their spots and these local feds. There's guys like my
opponent that night, Joey Avalon. There's guys like Vic Capri, who recently
started slowing down after twenty five years and had one of his last matches at
my home promotion, giving his top student most of the match before finally putting
him over clean her overclean. There are vets who are like Terry Funk when
it comes to giving Thinking about those vets that look out over the newer guys
like myself was another reason I cried hearing Desperado one last time. Because Justice
Wrestling is worse without the Funker. It'll be worse without them as well.
I hope to follow on theirs and Funk's footsteps when it comes to giving back.
Finally, I'll end with this while listeners piss and moan about the length
of these journeys you both do. I always hate when they have to end.
That's right. The ending to the lapsed Funk hurt the worst, but
it hurts so good. That is what makes TLF that fucking cast. That
is why TLF will always remain supreme over any other wrestling podcast out there.
Thank you Moon. Doug Murray, well, thank you sir. Keep up
the good work and glad to be a wind at your sales. Brett Hamilton,
thanks for the cake man. Welcome in. We appreciate the pledge.
JF Welcome in. Very good stuff. Dylan wants us to know why Putsky
bladed. He talked about this and that Genuary twenty fourth, nineteen eighty four
show that we did Hogan winning the title was twenty fourth, Right Yeah,
Jenner, thirty fourth, nineteen eighty four, according to my sources, Dylan
writes on Patreon, which, by the way, is another reason to subscribe
to the Patreon because of the banter oh yeah comments under the show files.
The ad free versions of our show, by the way, just amazingly hilarious
and insightful and helpful background contexts, comments, witticisms from the best listenership and
podcasting. According to my sources, this is exactly what happened. Dylan writes,
Putsky was looking out at the house in Madison Square Garden with Howard Finkel,
and while it was mostly full, he noticed some scattered patches of empty
red seats. So we told Fink do it, at which time Fink on
on a special PA mic that addressed not on the inside but the outside of
the garden. Fink's voice rang out in the streets of New York announcing attention,
ladies and gentlemen, Ivan Putski will be gouging his forehead with a tiny
sharp piece of metal at tonight's show. People with an earshot casually going about
their business then promptly decided to change their plans for the evening and clicked those
turnstiles. The boys in the locker rooms today just don't understand that level of
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We always appreciate your support, buddy, Thanks very much. A great
question from Ali, he writes, Dear Jack and JP, do you think
Rihea Ripley is coming for rips Heat? And he put a picture rip them
from Noel's Boy and then he wrote brother, that's the whole email. Josh
Goder, who's ripping brother? What Corey and Winnipeg makes a good point because
Hogan's mom, Ruth Bolea, is of course in the locker room before he
beat Cheek along with his dad on the interview. Yes, yes, and
we thought it was the first time we'd ever seen her in the last time.
He's a small correction. This would not be Hogan's mom's only appearance.
That's inappropriate. She had a pivotal role in the Mother's Day party in the
first ever Saturday Night's main event. For the record, Blass, he steals
that segment with his mother Laura. Isn't she Beota Fall? That's a good,
good call, Mike Bethy, thanks very much for the plage. We
appreciate the support. Will Winter Boss writes the best t LEF episodes with the
ones where I come out feeling nothing but shame and embarrassment for your pathetic clowns.
This is almost as bad as Jack going to an event where Jericho and
Leader were reading to school children. Absolutely pathetic. Can't wait for John sorrow
line at Pro Wrestling teas the attribute to Virgil as we went through with your
dad and others. Yes, okay, what's this here? Trevor sent us
screen grab. He writes, listening to the brilliant Virgil tribute, I felt
the urge to share the sad news of his passing with my dad. See
the attachment, and it's a text Virgil died. Reply, remind me who's
Virgil and that has had a picture of Virgil And then all the dad says
is, oh, okay, that's the end. Steve writes, Papa Sorrow's
description of what it's like to be a parent of a wrestling fan is my
mother and grandparents rolled in a one. Condolences for the end of the original
laps Icon Virgil of course to the Solar members. Yeah, he really nailed
it on that one. Yep, Timothy Wise, thanks for the increase in
pledge. We appreciate the support. Christopherdamar's long time support. Are going all
sums up to you know, I need to support my child, but how
do I support my child? It's exactly a what comes through and what he
said, Yeah, it's perfect. It was like exactly what all dads think,
Yeah, when they're not wrestling fans and their kids get into it.
Poll cautiously writes on Patreon, I'm ready to do this affair, quoting who
who but Mike Virgil Jones. I'm ready to do this affair. I forget
there. It is to this affair. Neil writes. Virgil's best era was
as a job or to the Stars from ninety two to ninety three, after
his initial post faded. He had the responsibility of putting guys over who were
on their way up the card. It seemed like every wrestler who came in
had to get by Virgil first on their way to the bigger and better things
Yo Kuzuna, Raiser, Ramone, Dooink Nails, Lex Lugret, et cetera.
Verge would get some jabs in and a few hope spots before getting beaten
soundly. Was a good role for him, and he still had the crowd
behind him, even though the outcome is obvious. What do you think,
boss, was that Virgil more valuable to the company than the ninety one million
dollars champions valuable? Yeah? Probably? Hmmm, you know, because like,
I mean, what value did he actually bring? He? I mean,
he wasn't necessarily considered a draw. In ninety one was he I mean,
he was no, he was just a you know, it was he
was the bonus sentimental thing, right. It was exactly you know, like
you don't you don't, you don't go to see him, but you know
he he You're happy that he's there and you and you want to see you
know, it's like, okay, I'll also get to see this as well.
And so yeah, I can see that in a way, letting up
Sid for a big money made event against Hogan, you could probably argue that
that produced more money than his you know, absolutely, and so ninety two
yeah, but be it. You know that ninety two, ninety three run
for sure he was, you know, and the way he puts over Yokozuna
and at Survivor series ninety two, oh yeah, after you know, when
he gives he gives Brett Hard a warning about it, I think it's pretty
fucking money. I would definitely say he was more valuable in that regard because
he he made guys seem credible, you know, comment for everybody. Now,
Yeah, yep, Virgil was the Nails to me, he killed nail.
Nails killed him to it that the SummerSlam nails points sound Yoko Razor yep,
I don't remember a razor, but I wouldn't doubt that it happened.
Doink, I remember Doink went over him on Superstars. I think he also
writes, does kneel? If Virgil had the second identity, which you kept
a secret? Is that why he was so anxious about getting a check at
the bachelor party? Oh? That revelation is to me everything you need to
know about what what Virgil was all about. A bank has a basic screening
process when you open an account to look for malfeasans. While the criteria is
usually pretty loose, if you have a history of overdrafts, suspicious behavior,
or have used a bank in the past and connection with the crime, they'll
flag you. To cash a check, you usually just need a driver's license,
maybe a utility bill, or something to verify your address. It's a
quick transaction. In those cases, the bank is mostly concerned about if issuer
is good for the cash. But that's an interesting point. Maybe Virgil didn't
like banks. I'm sure. I'm sure he was freaked out by it,
you know, wasn't he has as a shady pass that he was hiding he
wanted to cash the thing. I'm not sure he was looking to avoid a
bank. I just think he just wanted to cash on hand as opposed to
Yeah, well, I mean because that's the thing. You know, what's
the if he goes to the bank and you gave him a bad check,
He's not going to anything for that. That's true. Man, You're never
going to You're never going to respond, right, and you're never going to
respond to an email after that. Again, he knows that. Wow,
that's a great point. That's a great point. We'd already paid him up
front a bit, so it's not like he made nothing. But uh,
you know, if we did that to him, But that's a good that's
I didn't think of that actually, And that tells you how uh, how
unprepared I am for the Valley of the Carnes. Oh they're they're they're ready
for anything. They're they're ready for nothing. Do you want a Tombstone to
qualify? Uh? Sure. Because we were wondering why Virgil was called curly
Bill in w CW at the hand Okay and Hull, Cogan reminds that curly
Bill is a villain from Tombstone played by Powers Booth. Interesting, I'm not
sure if that was the reference but if Nash was around, who knows,
Yes, I believe that I would imagine that it is. Dusty was around
too, Yeah, and and Kevin Sullivan. But you can buy that carle
a bill in Tombstone. Eventually you've seen toomtone, buddy, you've seen You've
seen Tombstone. No. Uh oh, well, I guess he's not going
to respond, Chris writes Virgil at Willing Casino. That's a good setup.
Can confirm Virgil would hang out at Wheeling Island Casino in West Virginia. I
live at about an hour south of Wheeling. My wife and I went to
the casino for a rare night out in December twenty twenty one. At some
point I went to get something out of the car for my wife, and
when I came back in the front door, Virgil was standing there talking to
the security guard. He was leaning on the guard's a little stand, like
he'd been there for a while. Our eyes met and he said, how
you doing, brother? Yeah, it's me. At a moment where I
thought maybe I should stop and say hi or ask for a picture, but
instead I just smiled and kept walking. I couldn't figure out why Virgil would
be hanging out in the front door of a casino in West Virginia. Is
so was Curly Bill the only time Virgil had a role where he wasn't based
on somebody else, like in the way that he was Mike Jones in WW
for a little while, Okay, soul Train Jones whatever his alright, sol
Train Jones about them as the job are on Superstars and the Paul and Roof
match we watched already forgot what they called him was luscious or something. But
I should say his own yeah, right, But but I should say though
his own he's out of the out of the main Listen, he's not known
for that stuff as much as he's known for being Virgil Vincent. And I
would say his third most famous is probably Curly Bill, whatever he did in
w CW mainstream TV. Him Shane too, all right, Shane as well?
Right, he's Shane for so okay, So out of his four main
characters on on real television, only one was named after a fictional person as
opposed to a play on strange existence. It seriously is like I'm a walking,
living, breathing inside joke, Like like I remember asking him that too,
if it bothered him like that. He that his only notable gimmicks were
as plays off other people's names. Ah nah, he would never It was
that he was fine. He was down with he said, na A part
of the well I was hanging with, I was hanging with, I was
hanging with with with Hulk, Hogan and nWo. I was part of them.
Big Okay, you're still a joke. No no, no, no,
no no, yeah, stop right there. I couldn't figure out what
Virgil would be hanging out at the front door of a casino in West Virginia.
I had no idea until your tribute show last week that he lived in
Pittsburgh, which is only an hour from Wheeling. Hmmm. I walked through
the casino in kind of a daze until I found my wife. She asked
if something was wrong, and I said, yeah, I think I just
saw Virgil. Her response, who a Declan molloy, Thanks very much for
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thank you, Adam Tucker, thank you McLay mark, Thank you so very
much. It's just rolling in. The love never stops. Anonymous writes on
Patreon that a two thousand and eight Roll Rumble would have been as Hopper pick
as a gen Z fan. This was the first pay per view my parents
ever bought me. My cousin spent the night to watch it with me.
In the next night, my grandfather took us to our first live wrestling event
Money naighte Raw and Philadelphia. My extremely lapsed grandfather, who grew up watching
Brunos and Martino and Buddy Rogers cards at the Philadelphia Arena, was now being
disposed to triple ehs for Snitsky and Maria versus Molina. He didn't like it.
The only wrestler he got out of his seat for was Jim Duggan,
who wrestled the dark Match against one of the Highlanders who he remembered from the
Hulk Coggin days. Having no Internet access since I was only eight years old
at the time, I was shocked at how much the Philadelphia crowd was booing
my hero John Cena. Wow. To me, to be was for kids
only, since all my friends at school watched it and no adult I knew
did at least admitted to watching it. It confused my little mind how grown
men could take a show that had such goofy characters like Hornswoggle and Santina Morella.
So seriously and so true, so true, even a kid knows it's
yeahlish exactly. The kid looks at adults like, what's wrong with you guys?
Exactly? Eight year old me would be horrified to learn that I would
turn into that same annoying fan years later. No matter what people say about
the year, I will always have my nostalgia for two thousand and seven to
twenty ten. W w E amazing. I still remember when a punk beat
scene at night of Champions twenty thirteen, I think it was I went to
the show and these kids were crying that John Cena lost, balling their lies
out and I thought everyone had moved on from taking matches that seriously. I
didn't appreciate that. The new generation, you know, kids are a little
bit different. They I can see that they expect something. I guess they
were never die with one guy like that. I thought that was over after
uh, I guess after Brett kind of I thought I told myself it was
over and that well, certainly the top baby Face had their supporters. There
wouldn't be children crying if Stone Cold lost the belt, you know, but
or the Rock lost the belt. But here John Cena HadAM in a different,
unique way. Jeff right to the Boss's Belgium story is either a great
A twenty four movie or a great, a great Wes Anderson movie. I'm
not Jeff Witch. Yes, maybe maybe maybe Wes Anderson doing an A twenty
four movie something like that. Right, that's that's actually excellent. I could
totally see that being like the premise for the movie trying to protect the rabbit,
yep, awkward light coming off a breakup, yep. Yeah, it's
very Wes Anderson quirky comedy type thing. You know. I imagine like I
imagine like model toy planes being used in the air, you know. So
good, Yeah, be fun. Such a launch point. Sam O'Connor,
thanks for your increased pledge. We appreciate all that support. Cameron Watkins,
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man Sewan meer Mania and his tlf X journey love it. Okay, greetings,
co chairs. I needed the right level of motivation in order to sit
down and type out this beast, and I think I'm finally ready. I've
written several times over the last decade, but I don't know that I ever
told the story of how I became a fan not only a fake fighting,
but of TLF. I was born in eighty five. I remember seeing Ultimate
Warrior on an episode of Superstars, but I could never remember what time it
was on. I know that feeling or what channel this must have been about
the time I got my VHS copy of Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles two Secret of
Views, because I distinctly remember the trailer for Suburban Commando playing before the movie.
My aunt had recorded Gremlins to you know the new batch I do off
of HBO for me, and this version had the Hogan cameo. Either the
Suburban Commando preview or the Gremlins two cameo were my first taste of hul Camania.
Fast forward a little and I have a friend that has this yellow Hulk
Hogan suitcase. So the attached the photo is that there? Do you see
it? I want to let me take a look here sounds amazing. This
sucker was loaded with Hasbros. Hasbros on the go, the most portable way
to take a five star Classic to whatever family function, recess or car right,
et cetera you could think of. Over the next few years, I
got to where you couldn't add another one to the case. For some reason,
the Mounty and Texas Tornado were always the ones I grabbed first. Like
so many others, As the New Generation era took over and the Hasbros disappeared,
my fandom was put on hold until about sixth grade. Look at that
beauty ninety seven. Let me see, wow, look at that? Look
at that? I could I could have whatever I could have used that.
That's a toy carrier, is what that is. I kind of you know,
that's what It looks a little familiar. I wonder if I had that.
Oh I'd be jealous. Yeah, I think I had it. The
only way it got random shit and like I wasn't like you know, like
it would be a thing where it wasn't instant gratification. Like I'd beg my
parents for something on the catalog and I'd get it sometimes, but it wouldn't
come until like six months later. Right, Well, that was those are
the days when it was like it took forever for for shit to ship.
Absolutely, when I finally got it, it was sort of like this faded
memory. It wasn't like, oh, like you remember when you get something,
I don't remember getting it, so I remember having it either. It's
very strange, you know, like the fucking when I see it, I
recognize it. Yeah, like you know, today you get ship that is
you know it comes. You know, obviously Amazon you get it within two
days. But I remember as a kid it was like it was weeks to
months at least. It seemed like months before something would get and we didn't
have any way to check the tracking. We were the better for it,
let me tell you. Because as agonizing as it would be to wonder if
it's ever coming in, or if they got my order or where is it.
As agonizing as that is, especially considering the prime era we live in
now, I got to tell you it made it four thousand times sweeter the
day it came, you know, that's the thing. The day it came
was And this isn't this isn't contradiction what I just said. I understand this
in terms of not remembering getting it because I felt like what would happen,
honestly is the package would come in and I wasn't home, and it would
be like open for me, and I'd find it there presented. I wouldn't
retrieve it from the porch, you know what I mean, like that it
would just suddenly be in the house. Right. It was just something right
right, because it was it was very strange to get a package, so
people didn't just like you know, stack them up in the sun porch or
whatever or the mud room and just wait for you to come and open them
yourself. You know, it would be opened immediately because what the fuck is
this thing on my doorslap? Like two packages a year, like exactly,
and man, oh man, god, I just I feel so bad for
people, for generations that are going to get that experience. Yeah you should,
you should. I mean you know now it's now there's no patience.
It's instant gratification to Ralphie's dad, right, and like it's that yeah,
yeah, exactly gone. Exactly, it's gone. The feeling that we worked
ourselves out of because we wanted it easier. It's our fault. We wanted
it easier. We wanted it easier. Listen, we have the greatest experiences
and we created the worst experiences because as kids we loathed the long waits.
Well that's the thing. We lose the long way. We innovate ways and
right, so we need to create ways that I don't have to loathe waiting.
I need it now. And then all we end up doing is robbing
the next generation of something magical. And ourselves well well ourselves, but we're
old enough now we don't care. It's the height, it's the height of
selfishness, you know, it's I don't want to have to wait for anything.
So therefore, the kids of my generation, you know, the kids
behind me, are never going to get the feeling of And now kids don't
even care about you. They want electronics. Meanwhile, I'm playing with Hasbros.
It's is so fucked up. Mm, it's life. You know,
what did you expect? I guess you're right. What do you think?
You just picked a nice, happy existence? No, come on, you
know better than that. Got Barry Wyndham glue right there? Yeah? Does
he still do a good what is the power slam? He does? He
does a great spinebuster, absolutely phenomenal spinebuster. Can pick him up like nobody's
business here. He's got Scott Steiner and he's gonna drop him boom beautiful.
Yeah. Yeah, he can do a great cutter as well. It's really
he's he is a very versatile rest real action figure. So okay, Fallow
of ninety seven A buddy bought the latest copy of WW magazine to school Owen.
Hart's head was stuck on the wall of a like a damn buck.
I was immediately hooked again. Do you remember that one? I do?
I do? It's a Owen season, I think is what the you're amazing
thing was exactly what oh god, this fucking look at that Owen's Look at
Owen's face. Yeah, idiot, oh, poor dead bastard. All right,
the time, my fan, This time, my fandom ran until about
the summer of two thousand and six. I went to WrestleMania twenty two in
Chicago. Big time, Yes it was. It was the big time and
the big time so much larger than life, so so much larger. Then
it's like the only time they fucking used an older song wrestle you know,
like it was an eighties song they fucking did big time, like weird.
I mean it doesn't make any sense, but I loved I did. I
liked it so I could that I could that I can email or text uh
uh did and say, hey, guess what the Wrestmania theme is this year.
It's sucking Peter Gabriel's Big Time. You must love that. No,
yeah, absolutely introduced that song to me. Actually in college, I didn't.
I wasn't as familiar with the only Peter Gabriel song I knew before college
was in the Uh no, no, that's uh, that's that's that's uh
Phil Collins. But Peter Gabriel, I knew, uh Steam, I knew
Steam. I remember, I remember I watched the fucking first uh, the
debut of of the music video for Steam Amazing. It was so great.
Dean, There's no way that's the first time in the history show that I
mistook Peter Gabriel for Phil Collins. I don't know if we ever talked about
I would imagine that we maybe did it at the time when we did wrest
May twenty two, but I don't think we've talked about Peter Gabriel that much
on the show. Maybe if we can do uh maybe I under the cinemat,
I we can do uh uh the lastentation of Christ. Wow, really
because he did the score for that, which is fucking unreal, just fucking
only Martin Scorsese would do a movie about the life and death of Jesus Christ
and have Peter Gabriel do the score. It will do the Miami Vice trailer.
There we go and have uh and then and have Harvey Kaite Harvey Kayitel
played Judas Iscariot. Fucking that's that's that's a movie, Judas bro there,
it's a big time. I followed the Vince mcman versus God and HBK fewed
because it's how ridiculous it was. A few weeks after the mains, I
went to a Raw SmackDown super show in Saint Louis. Carlito was my guy
and I was rocking one of his fake wigs with a do you Spit or
Swallow shirt in a second row. But something was starting to feel different after
going to WrestleMania and knowing the product was kind of shit at the point anyway,
it didn't feel like there was anything left to accomplish as a fan.
My viewership was hit and miss. After the Ben Wat tragedy, I totally
quit watching for a long time, the entire punk era, the scene of
rock program all the way until my friend suggested I give this podcast on Wrestle's
Own a try because quote they talked to Meltzer and one of the guys who
does a decent McMahon impression. I've worn several hats in my professional career after
graduating from college. When I began listening to t LF, I was a
territory sales brother. What are you selling out territories? Dude? What do
you mean Terry what? Terrytown? Brother? What selling? What do you
mean selling? What? Selling tickets to or selling? You're gonna sell a
leg drop, right, dude, Exactly. You're not trying to say you
sell something else. You're gonna You're gonna manage your sales, your sale of
the leg drop, right dude? In Hershey, Brother, you're gonna sell
the leg drop right Like you saying you sell something else. Isn't the sneaky
way of saying you won't sell the leg drop? Right? Brother, You're
saying you're a sales manager for Hershey, means you're gonna sell the leg drop
in Hershey, Right, dude, right? Why are your sales manager for
leg drops. If that's the case we're managing. He drops, Now,
dude, it was my leg drop. Not good. What I gotta know
what's going on, dude. Nobody tells me anything in this sort. Nobody
tells me anything. On the road, eight hundred plus miles a week,
all over Illinois, my car was my office, and TLF quickly became my
soundtrack. The earliest shows, The Main's Journey Star came Memorial Tour. All
helped get me through those long drives. The only bad thing about the show
back in those days it was too short. After getting burnt out from being
on the road, I started working for the state as a tax collector.
It's okay, Irwin, Seriously, he goes from goes from selling out in
Hershey to fucking selling out. Indeed, Yeah, in the fall twenty seventeen,
I could go full Nash on folks that would call complaining about their situations.
I believe in an email send a long time ago, I'd mentioned that
one particular delinquent taxpayer cussed me out pretty good, and I can only respond
with, Hey, I'm just a guy. Oh my god, what is
what the fuck man like? Look listen, I didn't create your tax problem.
All right. Like, that's right. I'm just the guy making the
call, you know. I mean, look, maybe you and I can
sit down, you know, have a glass of wine, kind of chit
chat over, you know, steak dinner or whatever, and we can kind
of talk through this. But I'm not the guy that did this to you,
all right, I'm just the guy calling you to remind you that you
did it to yourself. Well, thank you for that. In twenty seventeen,
the ninety seven Journey to Survivor series, this is my favorite individual section
of TLF right. In the heart of the multiple part episode covering the Montreal
screwjob, my daughter was born. I sat in the hospital cracking up when
JP introduced the evil bred hard voice. Well, reading from Danner's book,
what do you mean? I am Brett Hart, I'm evil. I continued
working for irmin r Scheister for five years, but ended up moving to another
state agency as a supply procurement executive. Excuse me, brother, Well,
what kind of supply are you going to procure for me? Let's sit down
and talk about I'm talking about supply and demand. Supply. You are a
supply and I have a demand. Let's get on with it. I will
procure a demand. You have a supply, I have a demand. Let's
get on with it. Tremendous shit, tremendous shit. Uh, it's America,
Dammit. You can only take so much verbal abuse from those jacks sheets.
Now I'm at a new office with a new desk without having to be
in the phone, on the phone, more time for that cast to be
You know where. I've been in that solar system since before it was called
the solar system. I've been on the Patreon gimmick. You've been there for
me, through the valleys and the peaks. And like WrestleMania four, when
the fault lines break off and other subpar podcasts fall into the ocean, the
Solar System will be saved from the bottom by the sea of that fucking cast,
like Hogan, save the Trump Family. I've gone far too long.
I've gone too long with your Carney at a Hall of Fame ceremony, I
look forward to another ten years of TLF. I wish I could make it
to Philly, but I know it's going to be amazing, and I'll be
there in spirit. Next time we make it to the Midwest, I'll be
there. Well, maybe many thank you for the memories, Thank you for
the inspiration. Thank you for as Michael Buffer would put it, hulk Mania,
hulk Mania. Thank you, dude, brother, what hi hoof?
And thank you Michael Trimarco and and then Morgan Cameron and and and and Travis
who went up to the moat tier in a big gigo. We appreciate that.
And and nick O and Michael Herndon and Jane Altoyds and Ryan Harvey and
and Chris and John Zigler and Dolph Ziggler and t JK TGK sorry and uh
Edward Jeffrey and Joseph Russo and how about Timothy Weiss and Rick Murphy and Paul
Augustine and Carl Bennett. I mean, folks, Fox, I mean,
come on now, what more do you need? Ron Rights Terry Funk memories.
Thanks to my friend that got me into wrestling, Ritchie, I saw
a lot of mainstream A D's WW and going forward with Funk's career. My
friend's mother and father were tape traders in the nineties. Might excuse me,
excuse me? His mom loved Funk and Foley, so maybe it's her I
have to thank for seeing so much A Funk I remember at age twelve thirteen,
Richie showed me the full built up of Flair Verse Funk, everything from
Funk attacking Flair pile Driver on the table all the way to the I Quick
match, which quickly became my favorite of my early fandom. Also to a
twelve year old, the Thunderdome was crazy as fuck. He gave me a
handful of ECW tapes, which when it was Eastern Champs to Wrestling, I
believe Funk winning the TV title. They had been on those tapes. Fast
forward to the late nineties, and that middle aged and crazy bastard used a
chainsaw to cut his way out of the box and into my heart. During
the hardcore fight between Foley and Charlie when they were tossed into the dumpster and
shoved off the stage, I fully marked out for it. I was just
shy of turning fifteen and knew everything was fake as hell by then, but
that moment was real to me. For some reason, I bought into the
angle, likely because they had to take it up about thirty minutes of live
TV. I'm listening to this part of Lapsed Funk now and just had to
write in. I guess in nineteen ninety eight, ECW finally started to get
more popular on their and on their website. I sent out messages about them
touring further out and then just on than just the East coast. Finally,
in nineteen ninety nine and two thousand they came to Peoria, Illinois, which
was something I suggested a few times while chatting with whomever manned the ECW chat.
Thanks to our video having so many tapes, my friends and I bought
roughly four to five different tapes. Among them was IWA King of the death
Match ninety five, the Best of Hi Busa, ECW's Best of Hardcore,
and at least one of the other Japanese death match compilations. I was able
to see Sabo Verus Funk, Born to be Wired, Funk Versus Folly,
and loads of Funk Wrestling and FMW and others in a variety of death matches.
Funk Owing to WCW is somehow not a part of my memory. In
the two thousands, skip forward, ECWWCW both clothes and some books come and
documentaries come out. So they decided to bring ECW back for one night,
and there were whispers of the real ECW originals doing their own show and documentary.
Jack, thank you for including the forever Hardcore interview of Terry Funk.
I don't know why, but that interview, when I heard at age twenty
two, stuck with me. Someone like Funk would rather stay true to himself
and go back up and down the roads with guys he loved working with,
rather than earn some big Vince McMahon money. I've done my best to live
up to that ideal, staying true to oneself for selling out to the man,
even if one year later he still got to make man money in hand.
That's right, that's Terry Funk for you. Yeah right, he'll get
he'll get the money, but he'll do something to make himself be able to
look himself in the mirror. Right and closing, I guess I have Funk
to thank for my love of hardcore wrestling and being a stubborn ass. And
that's why I'm not a millionaire. You know, that's why I'm not a
millionaire. Well, the things that I wanted to do probably should have done.
I should have gone the Walmart. It took a long time to send
this. Walmart take a long time to send this because it's like saying a
final goodbye to him. It hurts in the next few years, won't get
any easier for us fans. Man, It's yeah, it's irreplaceable. It's
gone. Yes, Clarkson comes Comes Clean on Patreon Listen. He writes,
when I first started listening to the show, the singing was what most annoyed
me the most. Was what annoyed me the most. Where do you think
is going to happen next? Boss? Uh? He's gonna not be able
to live without it. At some point it broke me and I started laughing.
Yes, I haven't stopped laughing at it. So good ship, Pal,
I know. And you're out there right now, You're out there,
you have a pause, you go, oh, these guys are like God,
that was cringe Like. I can't think is wrong with these ass clowns.
I need to be with people that never put themselves on the line.
I need to listen to people that don't uh, unapologetically laugh And all I'm
gonna say is that the seat at the table will be kept warm for you,
and we were gonna welcome you back with open arms. I mean,
has anyone ever fucking been in the middle of saying something like are there are
there so many people who who just don't do Like if you're in the middle
of saying something that you know is ridiculous and then all of a sudden you
catch yourself, whether you when you realize it, and it's fucking funny,
Like do people not do that? Or are we just like fucking unicorn in
that? In them? It seems that way. Like I'm into that my
whole life, where I'm in the middle of saying something bizarre and completely nonsensical,
and I catch myself because it starts to make sense in my brain as
I'm saying it, and I think it's hilarious because it's so stupid. Yeah,
something like that. I'm with you, Andre writes TLF often brings a
smile to my face. I enjoyed many a chuckle listening to the coach chairs.
However, sometimes I get so caught off guard that I lose all breath
from my body and begin to wheeze with laughter at the most random of lines
that others may forget instantly. I hear you, I hear you. Man.
The most recent I quote he Flair took a knee to the head in
the Sting retirement match and laid there dead for the rest of the match.
Don't ask me why these things tickle my pickle. They just do. Yeah,
dude, I won't ask because it's it's it's kind of self explanatory.
Yeah, Cliff writes wearing Umble twenty eight. I was there. Wow,
I love it. I wanted to share my recollections were on BLEW eight.
Because I was there first, I should tell you about the festivities. It
took place earlier that January day. My best and Tony and I went to
Wrestlemaniafan Access at the South Street Seaport in Manhattan because Rick Flair smacked up in
the middle of his retirement tour, was signing autographs. The line to get
out the door and we ended up waiting for what had to have been at
least two hours. This gave us a chance to expose the wonderful, diverse
personalities of wrestling fans. Of course, at one point I thought to myself,
I can't believe I'm one of these people. One guy in particular was
especially grading. He was doing impersonations of different wrestlers. At first, he
was funny. He did an impersonation for Ady Savage cutting a promo and a
bird flying above us. Then he kept going, with each imitation less funny
than the one before it. He eventually got into an argument with another guy
who was trying to cut the line, topping the quarrel off with a DX
crotch chop. I was embarrassed for him and myself. We eventually got to
Rick Flair's autograph table. Those of us who without memorabili he had a sign
got a postcard with Flair's face on it for him to sign. When Rick
signed my postcard, I said thank you. He shot me a look,
look, I just drunk his sea breeze. H I was legitimately intimidated.
I don't know what he thought I said. I mean, he was probably
drunk. That could have had something to do with it. Maybe he thought
I was eyeing his fourth wife, who was seated next to him. Either
way, I moved on and watched a Tony got his autograph. Tony said
nothing. He just smiled at Ricky and Rick smiled back. Lesson learned,
don't thank wrestlers. It all makes sense to me. We spent another hour
or so there. Some people from a TLC Haunted House show were holding a
contest to see who could tell the best ghost story. Tony made up a
story and actually won. They posted the video of it on their website.
He made up a story, Oh my god, that's happens that wrestling fans
are around. Then he and I lost a WW trivia contest to a kid
who had been a fan way less time than either of us. We were
both twenty three and had been fans since the late eighties early nineties. After
walking around and grabbing me some dinner, we had an MSG. While we
were walking into the initial flight of stairs to get in, I noticed someone
famous. It was a member of Run DMC. I don't know if it
was Run or DMC, so I just took a chance and scream run no
response, run hunts again. Finally I spartaned up and yelled DMC. Turned
around, let me shoot a photo over and it was nicer than Rick Flair.
That was a good one. Our seats were on the floor. If
you could envision the show from the hard camera, we were on the left
side of the arena, rather than perhaps, what's that? Can I not
envision the shows? It's up to you. Since this was perhaps the only
well rumble we'd ever see, Tony insisted we sit on the floor. I
don't usually like floor seats, but I saw everything going on into the ring,
so I was happy. Now on to the matches. I wish I
could be all jazzed over the fact that I got to see Flair's last match
in MSG, but for whatever reason, I'm not. In fact, the
highlight of the Flare MVP match was what happened before and after the match.
Before the match started, his sun Usher escored a woman in brown dress to
her seat in the front row. Tony and I recognized hers, Flair's wife.
When she was being escorted to the back. After the match, we
heeled Missus Flair. She looked at us and waved. Tony and I high
fived each other, celebrating the fact that Acartney's latest trophy wife gave us subhuman
wrestling fans some attention. Jericho JBL was nothing special. I was disappointed with
Jericho's return. He was trying too hard to be the white Jave old By
that spring, I was over him. That change that changed real quick when
he started feeding with Sean Michaels and went on to become the best all around
performer in pro wrestling for the next two years. When you think you know
me plays over the loudspeakers. You can see me on camera jumping out of
my seat and applauding. Edge was my favorite wrestler at the time. I
just loved how much of a Dicky was. I was happy he got the
main event spot at WrestleMania twenty four against the Undertaker. He earned it as
far as roar room with the last eight go sorry was I think most of
the cracks behind him. The right springboarded off the ropes. At the end
of the match. I screamed, oh shit, because I knew it was
coming next Bam spear awesome finish. Next match did not have such an awesome
finish, which fell flat with me because of how strong they had built Jeff
Hardy up in the weeks leading up to the World Rumble. He had a
whisper and the went off the top of the cage on to Omago one week.
The next week he exted you to a swanton bomb off the ross set
and sent himself an orton out of the arena on stretchers. That's why he
was so overpacked. Then he was jumping off things. Yeah right, I
forgot. Every week it was like a stunt and they go home run.
He dropped off, fucking kill yourself. That's pretty much what it was,
you know, just kill yourself. How about the go home run? Jeff
Hardy dropped Steve Austin with a twist of fate, boss, You ready for
that? No, I'm not okay with that, and it's completely irresponsible.
It's irregular and it occasional. When they played the video package played the match,
I said, man, I hope he wins. The guy in front
of me just looked at me and shook his hand as if to say,
no, man, it's not happening, and he was right. All it
took was one sudden Arcaiot to put Hardy down and clean for the three count.
Hardy got his due later in the year, and frankly, the way
w B had Hardy chase the tad over twelve months was done well. I
got up to get water after the Santino segment, which proved to be a
dumb decision. The person in front of me at the concession stand was getting
nachos and there was no more cheese left. The concession worker had to go
to the back and get a new back of nacho cheese. Then they had
to install it in the machine that dispenses it. What the fuck this took
forever? I ended up missing Michael Buffer's royal rumblin introduction, the Undertaker's entrance.
I know you guys don't care about Buffer, but his stick has led
so cool to see the fun of how he has these overly verbose entrances.
I love Buffer. Buffer is great, tremendous. I got back into the
arenas Michael's theme song started, so who didn't miss the start of the match.
Wasn't the best rumble match of all time, but it was good.
We had to keep getting up every time a new entrant came down the aisle
because all the people in front of us kept standing, and got to a
point where everyone was just stayed standing. When the clock hit zero for the
thirty entrant, it felt like time had stopped. And then the white lights
flashed and the familiar horns of my time is now blared over the speakers.
The first reaction of everyone in the arena was just noise. No booming,
no cheering, just noise. Holy shit, John Cena was back. Wasn't
his injury supposed to keep me out for close to a year. Holy shit,
John Cena was back. Once the shock. I've seen it. Returning
war Off, every one returned to their anti scenic corners. I wasn't one
of the anti Sena people. I wasn't a fan of his and I wanted
him to be less of a superman. But that night I was a Sena
fan. After the show, Tony and I went to catch her train.
Let's go see a scene a suck chance. Continue down into Penn Station.
One guy near a screen. He's a cancer, No, it was something
else? Is he? Do we know that a zodiac sign? Yeah?
We could never. When Sena defends, the defenders would say that he was
the top guy because he got the reaction. This is what they were talking
about. They had guys, the guy had fans going back and forth as
if they were still in the arena. I hadn't been in many live wrestling
events by that point in my life, but Roy Rumble two thousand and eight
was the greatest show I had seen in person, and it was because of
those few minutes between Seena's return and the end of the show. Just a
few quick thoughts to end the show came in the middle of ww's last good
creative period. I know a lot of people think we're in the middle of
a good creative period right now, and maybe we are. The stuff with
Roman over the last four years has certainly been unique. But I don't want
to watch week to week look I used to. I don't watch week two
week look I used to. So I don't think I can make a fair
judgment. However, at the time, between two thousand and seven Survivors Series
and Summer Slam two thousand and nine was really good. Michael's Jericho, Edge,
Undertaker and Jeff Hardy CM Punk were three feuds that were done very well,
with the Michael Jericho feud being the best out of all of them.
I kind of agree with that, and that was pretty good stuff. Yeah,
I was definitely still watching. I I enjoyed that stuff quite a bit.
I know the Hopper winner who picked the show it said that Sina was
not as big a hero after the show because he didn't go on to win
the Deputy B title for Wharton. But I actually liked Elcina was booked for
most of two thousand and eight. He seemed human. He couldn't get the
Deputy be title from either Worton or Triple Ag. She lost to JBL.
He lost to Patista, he wasn't a dominant baby face that he had been
between two thousand and five and two thousand and seven. It was refreshing.
Of course, he had beat Jericho later that year for the World Heavyweight Championship
into real Jericho's momentum. I wish that their feud could have gone to WrestleMania
twenty five and culminated with Sena winning the title at that event. Instead,
Jericho deserved a main event match, and it would have been better than stupid
angle between Sena, Edge and Big Show, which saw Vicky Guerrero cheating on
Edge by making out with Big Show. Okay, maybe not every creative decision
during this time was great, but the has Brown attitude urists weren't perfect either.
Anyway, Tony and I are going to wrestle Manty forty this year and
we'll be at the bozos, biceps and bullshit. Bruce. I remember seeing
you, guys. I remember the fist bump. Very nice, yep.
If I approach you to say thank you for everything you do, please be
nicer to me than Rick Flair, all the best. Cliff Well, it
was glad to be just that. Absolutely. I was thrilled, like the
way you know it was. I mean, listen, I'll be the first
to admit, like, you know, it's it's awkward. It's awkward as
hell to have a fucking receiving line going as long as it did. First,
we didn't even know there was going to be right, you know,
that was not playing. To step out of the concert hall and there's there's
like a lot of someone set up up one of those rope things. Yeah,
there was a whole fucking thing. And listen, I'm glad to do
it. Its just I was very taken aback and it made me nervous,
like no, no question, like I don't feel that, you know,
worthy of that shit. But listen, love you guys. Yep, they
did, and you know, happy, happy to be there and to do
something that you know, put a smile on your face. Okay, here's
Chris my first WrestleMania Oh boy, who use you? Hello? Co chairman,
first time riding Beta fan since nineteen ninety? Wow were we done the
podcast nineteen ninety? I don't even know that, brother, that's what broa
dude. I still have my Macho King wrestling buddy. After hearing the summer
the Suma Slam ninety two episode of That Fucking Cast with my very dear,
close personal, longtime trash friend trace friend Darren. A little over a year
ago, I knew that I wanted to know, I needed more, so
I started from the beginning and I'm currently on WCW one censor ninety five with
ninety six episodes behind me. Over the Edge ninety nine was a couple of
episodes before this one. Good Lord, that was a tough listen, but
I digress. We've got this friend, a twan aka Montezy. He's a
rapper that specializes in theme songs for wrestlers. He's got a song in basically
every company except WWE, including Sammy Guivara, Guava with Cheese, and Big
Swols aew Themes Moves from TNA, among others. We met at mcw's Maryland
Championship Wrestling Shamrock Cup twenty fifteen. We were both there to meet Roddy Piper.
This was the night of the Night of the Last Piper's Pit. We
became fast friends. Fast forward about two years and we're going to our first
Wrestlemanium, WrestleMania thirty three at Camping World Stadium in Orlando. This is when
we went to the opposite direction right. Antoine lives in Florida, so he
and his grandma met me at the airport and picked me up Thursday before the
mains. I'm not the type to ask for comp tickets, but I won't
refuse them if offered, and as a result, got to do a lot
of cool shit I'd otherwise not be able to do. My friend opened the
Russell Kahn Kicko party with a short set before a Q and A with sting
Rick Flair and Jim Ross. I was surprised to see Jim Ross theirs.
His wife just died a week or so before this. That's right, Wow,
I don't know it was right there, that's crazy. He got me
into the Evolved show happening in Orlando, where I got to see Zach Saber
Junior twist Ach into a pretzel, along with being the first time I ever
saw Keith Lee Russell. That big man can fucking fly. I walked into
Russell Khan with my pink and black zubaz An American flag fanny pack with a
tight budget. The only meet and greet side I went for was Al Snow
and mean gene Oakerland also told me. He but only admired my zubaz but
also my fanny pack. Made me feel like a million bucks. Despite my
budget, Antoine managed to get me pictures with Sabu, Johnny Mundo, and
Rikishi too. While walking around the convention. At one point, out of
nowhere, Tony Atlas walks up to Antoina starts shaking his hand all aggressively and
saying, Hey, Coco, Beware, how you doing, Go go beware.
Nice to see you, Coco, Beware. We couldn't tell at the
time if this was a rib or if he was serious, but looking back,
I think he was fucking with us. Next up was NXT Takeover Orlando,
where I get to see the debut of Alistair Black and bask in the
gloriousness that is Bobby Rude. We got lost on the way out of the
Armway Center. We couldn't find our parking spot and our phones were dying.
My friend got a lift and the guy didn't speak any English. Just left,
right and straight was all he knew. We went in a circle like
three times before we ended up back where he picked us up, where I
looked across the street and saw my friend's fucking car turns out the turn.
Turns out the ass hat running the lot took down the ten dollars parking sign
and put up a twenty dollars one while we were in the venue. We
were laughing all the way back to the hotel. WrestleMania Sunday. This wasn't
though, This wasn't the best WrestleMania by a long shot. The atmosphere was
electric, the fighter jets flying overhead after America the beautiful was bad as it
was cool being a part of a U suck chant. When they announced the
headliner for the Hall of Fame that year, Kurt Angle. I enjoyed a
solid five minute match between old Berg and Bork Laser. It was disappointing to
see the Underseellar do just that and sell and job to Roman Reigns. I
was in the nosebleeds on the opposite end of the stadium for the entrance ramp,
but I swear I could feel the heat from Taker's entrance. It's true,
you can that. I remember feeling the heat for those and very You
know, I should not have felt the heat from those things. From all
that, the Pyro for Cain, for Undertaker, it's not okay. Especially
yeah, if I can hear it if I can feel it, you know,
you know, in the opposite you know place of you know, the
opposite position of the of the arena or stadium. I would not want to
be close. That's not fun. My favorite moment of that night, by
far was the Hardy's comeback. That was deafening. All in all, it
was a great time, so great. I did it again this the following
year in New Orleans, and I'm about to go to my third in less
than three weeks when it comes to Philly. Thank you, guys for all
that you do. Thank you for all the laughs. Thank you your time,
your clothes, and your motorcycle. Brother, and of course thank you
for Hulk Mania. Brother, Thank you, dude. Why great memories?
There cross section of experiences from the solar system. This has lapsed poly cautiously
rights listening to the task master fulfill the prophecy. Been talking about shoveling while
driving through a late March snowstorm to get work. To get to work this
morning, I finally cut the rare white Bengal Tiger vala. Recently, Kevin
Sultan Neil writes, as touches Vader can be, I got to take a
side on this one. I remember this is Hogan Verusvader for all five.
I remember as a kid thinking that after the Hogan matches that Vader was kind
of finished as a dominating force. Wow, he left him in the dust,
didn't he He had lost before, but it was always something like Flair
or Sting managing to seize on a mistake and pin him. Hulk always beat
Vader soundly and finished him off as a force in North America. They were
even prepping him for a baby face running WCW before he was fired, which
probably reflected his diminished reputation. There was even a sense when he came to
WWF that he was spent force looking to gain some of his menace back.
I was thrilled when he came to w Yeah, that was another one of
those guys where it was like, oh shit, but died is turning amazing,
isn't it? Well? I mean people, I mean people that fou
on ww ninety five. After that, the Vader they knew was gone.
Yeah right, he's not only gone from the company, but he could incredibly
be portrayed again like he had been because Hogan was there, and Hogan had
you know, had sunned to him basically, guess I never saw it like
that, but I know I'm weird. Nick for AM Minnesota Good Day co
Chairs. Looking back over the past ten years of listening to that cast,
since I heard t J and Cheap Seats talking about having to produce a seven
hour podcast in Wrestleman he seventeen, I have a lot of memories. The
most prominent one happens to be with getting my mother to listen to My mom
is as normal as they come, two kids, middle class receptionist at an
insurance company, and never had an interest in anything to eccentric like pro wrestling.
That was until you guys, dropped the deepest of dies into the Cris
Ben Wat tragedy. Oh boy. Since I knew she was a fan of
true crime books and stories, I went out in a limb and recommended this
episode to her, maybe just to humor me. She told me she would
give it a try on her way to work the next day. Two days
later, I got a text I finished that podcast. I think there were
any more episodes, I'd lene, Oh my god. I thought she was
mistaken and only had listened to part one because two days just seemed too fast.
To my amazement, though she had gone through all the parts, yes,
even connecting her work headset to her phone so she could listen while at
work. The only other episode I could think of that she would like was
Over the Edge nineteen ninety nine. She blew through that episode of No Time
and asked if I ever think of any of the episodes that she might like
to let her know. I couldn't think of anything else to recommend that it
was until she watched The Iron Claw and asked me how accurate it was.
Oh, my god, no, no, no, that there happens to
be. Oh, there's a particular podcast the actor who played Fritz used to
prepare for the role. There's a particular podcast. There's a particular podcast called
time Fan Cold, time Lapse Fan. My sixty four year old mother is
now going through the entire My god, why. When I asked her how
she liked it, she responded with they can be a little dirty sometimes,
but I just make sure no one else can hear me listening to it.
Oh my god, what a what a fucking what a what a trooper?
She is? All you have in your heart is shame and pain. You're
damn right, Thank you, both, Nick writes for being with me in
the good times and helping get through the bad. Tlf for life. That
one, God treasure, that one I'm going to try. Yes. Yes,
the fact that we have four year old mom used four year old mom
fucking like, oh shit, that is fucking me up right now. Justin
Harmon, Thank you very much for that deep and abiding and high level pledge.
Michael Shop, thank you very much for increasing your pledge. Sean makes
a great point, you know, as we talked about Bob Holly in the
two thousand and eight Royal Rumbo. By the way, Ronda Rousey's going to
be quickly added to this pantheon of Oh Frank, I cannot wait, Oh
my god. I mean, I know some people can't stand her, but
man, is she a gift when it comes to Joe. I love it
having no fox given about you know, anybody who pissed her off, she's
gonna like she's gonna talk about it until she's in the grave. Tremendous,
Sean says. Bob Holly is the retired wrestler who appears to friend's family and
neighbors to live a normal life. Wakes up early to go for a morning
run with the dog to come back and pick up the recently delivered newspaper on
his porch, volunteers to coach Little League, helps out with anyone's car trouble
in the neighborhood, and only asks for a six pack his payment. However,
everyone knows to leave Bob alone on Monday Friday nights, even in the
house of sisters. Come on, you know this is Bob. Yes,
this all makes sense, all gets all busy. Yeah, you know,
like he fucking yes exactly, he gets ready, sits down, and he
is going to go for it. Bob spends those evenings watching general grappling with
organized pretent. Yes, his hands on his hips, standing up the whole
time, and fucking going back and forth and back and forth. He's ready,
He's just like he's waiting for his moment to just fucking pounce. That
could have been him, It should have been him, and this is bullshit.
The only safeway to approach him is with a bomb disposal outfit. Tuesday
and Saturday mornings are spent putting the living room back together and driving to Target
to buy a new TV. No one bats an eye as it's good old
Bob brother. Sean that was poetry. I love the paint you painted there,
and I think you're exactly correct. By the way, I agree,
I mean tremendous. I mean we need cranky rest often. You know how
I said before, you know, learn to be entertained by people with bad
attitude. Yes, yes, that extends here, by the way, Oh,
without a doubt, without a doubt, fucking tremendous. Yes, just
people that are just you know, they were a big enough deal that they
could see the big stars operate, yes, but a small enough deal that
they cycled out and felt left in the dust by the nis tremendous. Steven
writes, hmm, oh, this is us wondering why Slaughter would have been
received as such a clear heel before the Chic feud in wwwf uh huh.
You know, like, what was it about him besides the Gomer pile teasing
chance that made people so hate an American drill sergeant, somebody who was supposed
to be an American military heroes who really did nothing different to become an uber
babyface against iron Chic besides confront him in the isleway Ones and Steve puts it
nicely, and others explain it to us as well. Slaughter is a heel
gimmick makes a lot more sense if you place yourself in the average wrestling crowd
in the late seventies in the early eighties, where you're going to have a
large percentage of the men in attendance having served and probably as enlisted men.
The slots represents every hard hassed drill instructor or staff sergeant or whatnot that private
wrestling fan had to endure well in the service. Of course, this was
back before the middle and upper classes in this country stopped serving in the military
and we started hollowing the men willing to be violent and mean on our behalf
a personal heel from a time before every veteran became a hero. That's fascinating.
I mean, yeah, right, everyone hated mister McMahon because it was
their boss. Yes, well, every every military man, Sergeant Slaughter was
their boss, right, I guess that's true. That's true. Jeff writes,
when your wife thinks something ki, yeah, Jeff writes, when your
wife thinks something is wrong because you yell, oh fuck. When Jp says
Dutch is coming soon under the cinema, Aiden Kivelhan, thanks for that incredible
support. My friend, We really appreciate it, Fred Denstroff getting the job
done. Yes, Christopher Manning, thanks for the cake, He writes Chairman,
I got caught up on all of my other podcasts and had nothing left
to listen to in the car on long walks or in short runs. Upgraded
to executive producer, tire and have your movie podcast to have his company forever,
forever, forever. I look forward to hearing this email in September when
you get to the next mail bag after the next unexpectedly long journey takes up
the entire summer. Oh god, you know these things happen. Keep up
the great work and have an amazing time in Philly. W Well, an
amazing time was had, Alli writes, Dear Jack and JP, what was
the most off brand thing about Hulk Cogan's initial WCW run. I'll go first
the shade of yellow used for Hogan's merch. Did you detect a different yellow
in WW then? W F absolutely absolutely, he had a yes, Yes,
it's a brighter. It's like the yellow in WW is a more of
an orange yellow, okay, whereas the it's like more of almost Neon esque
yellow in WCW and is neon one problematic. Oh yeah, oh god,
yeah, absolutely. I mean it's it's it's like it's weird because it's like,
yes, it is, it is. It's just yeah, it just
does not work. It's not okay, it's unhealthy. It's like too cartoonish.
What it's too bright. It's like it's it's it's it looks it means
you know again, it's like neon yellow. It's a bright bright yellow.
Like no, that's not Hogan, No, it's gonna be. It's almost
it's like it almost a light orange is what it was, you know.
Rick Kobos, thanks for the support. Steve Tackett, thank you so very
much. You and Taylor and Nick Ossipoff and Paul's a little Bicky and Pete
and Brennan and Andre Mansau and John Francis and Hardy f and Justin Russell and
Dylan Smith and Steven Lowry and Michael Caaprio. What about Zach Gellaher who've talked
about already, or Golaher perhaps this is the way to pronounce it and Ray
Dude, Scott McKay, Jay Woodhouse and Tim z Eilenbach and Jason Joseph Nubauer,
Josh Shannon coming in extremely strong, straight to the fucking smote tyr he
right, So this is what heaven is like. This is greetings to popes
of pressure upon people's presenting pucker holes who love pugilistic postmodern plays put on presently
by peacock and promoted primarily and possibly predominantly populated by predators. Ah, it's
Josh Hunter Shannon. I've just joined your patreon. Not three, sixteen,
not ten, not twenty. No, you two tour guides of tur tunnel
trauma whilst traveling the testosterone trough of talents and turmoil or getting fifty right off?
If you tell me for a bit, I'm going to tell you and
those who haven't joined your Patreon yet why I did. I've been an amputee
for a larger percent of my life than you've standard vernngagny talent take in nineteen
eighty one, at fourteen months old and contracted mining h mening o coal meningitis.
I've heard of that kind before. I don't know mening a coal meningitis.
I was in a coma for six weeks and had to have my toes
and my right foot amputated as well as needed extensive skin grafts over a third
of my body. My parents were told by multiple doctors that if by some
chance I did survive, I wouldn't be able to walk, talk, feed
myself, et cetera. I surprised everyone lapsed vents. Of course you did,
you dumb shit. You fucking writing it up. You're fucking writing it
ahem. Anyhow, fast forward five years. Off come the leg braces.
No more seizures, Run forest run. I added that. Fast forward another
five years. I then ten, and all other elementary students in our school
were given exams. When the results came back, I had the math skills
and understanding of a college student, and for English it was post college.
Please don't consider I'm bragging. It's just just illustrating my point. I will
get you shortly, lapsed, Michler. Better be shortly, mister Shannon.
I've got a Ruben waiting for me. I gave leeway to Vince McMahon,
but you sare no Vince McMahon lapsed. Vince from the background. You're damn
right, he ain't. Mischler McMahon, What did I say about you or
any of your carnies in my side? Again? Vince huh, what what's
going on? Where am I? Oh? Sorry? Wrong? Room closed
to the door he was listening behind. May I continue? Okay, So
this is when I first recall falling in love with pro wrestling, and my
markedroom was formed. Over the passing years and painful surgeries, much of what
got me through for the production of Vincent PTSD Barnum McMahon. I knew,
or at least greatly suspected it was fake from the start, but I was
lost in that world and wanted to know everything about it. At twenty eight,
the epilepsy returns, resulting concussions and TBI from a couple of accidents.
At thirty six, a heart attack, one stint, at shortly after forty
a second, four more stints. Three weeks later, during the height of
COVID, I was rushed to an emergency room because I had a blood clot
in my colon, half of which was dead, and I was dying of
toxic shock. And due to COVID it was literally air tight. It was
sorry, I due to COVID, it was literally air flight me the one
place they finally found they could take the hour then or I die. Wrestling
got me through it last year, someone who I was close to and lived
with became a meth head and had a psychotic break and tried to kill my
father multiple times Jesus bashing indoors to try. This is where you, my
heroes, come into my story. You two laps holes got me through it
from the stress three weeks ago a third heart attack. But when I opened
my eyes after surgery, I knew it was okay. I was going to
survive this. I had you two by my side. The lapsed fan just
doesn't change lives, it saves them. I swear to our Lord and Savior,
the Warlord, this is all shoot. Thank you for the laughter both,
thank you both for the strength, and thank you for the lapsed fucking
fan. I know this is long. You don't need to read it all
on the cast, but if you read any of your all of it,
can you let me know what GP it drops on EPs is the same.
Fine? Uh no, but you'll find it one day, Joe. It'll
happen. Yes, And we're very glad to be of service and that you're
you're still still alive and kicking. Andre writes, as we head into Man
and I'd once again throw an extra cheddar to the deserving CoA chairs to give
all I can at this special time of year, time and jump back in
a cinemat and find out if Carney's truly are forever. I would like to
share a quick story about how it only ten years old, my daughter may
already be lapsed. As a lifelong fan of over thirty five years, I
figured eventually my daughter would at least briefly flirt with per determined pugilism. This
past December, I managed to secure some front row seats to a WW show
and was going to take my daughter as a surprise. I introduced her to
fake fisticuff some months earlier and was blown away at how much it enraptured her
attention. She was hooked and had no idea what she was in for a
few months down the road and we piled them to the family trucks her for
what she thought was a boring shopping road trip. Her surprise was palpable and
she couldn't believe that she was about to witness spurious suplexus. To my surprise,
that's good. To my surprise. During the opening tag match with Sammy's
Ana and jay Uso taking on the judgment day, she became quite quiet and
whispered to me that she thought maybe she preferred to just watch at home.
I could tell that she'd become overwhelmed with a loud music, noise and perceived
violince up close. It sure seems like the wrestlers are hitting each other hard.
I knew what I had to do, Yes, podcast purveyors, I
had to tell my daughter that it's fucking fake. I explained to her that
the wrestlers knew what was going to happen, that they weren't actually trying to
kill each other. Her wheels turned, her gears churned. She said,
oh, well, that makes me feel way better. Dad. Have you
been lying to me? Yes? Are they lying to me? Yes?
Why did you do it for your entertainment? Why did you lie to me?
I wanted you to have fun. I wanted to put a smile on
your face. Why do you make me read the Satanic verses as well?
You did made me go to a I'm not going to do it, but
I went to a very dark place right there. I explained to her that
the wrestlers knew what was going to happen. Yes, yes, yes.
Within a minute, her anxiety lesson in her body language relaxed. Then she
knit her brows with righteous indignation and crossed her arms and looked at me.
Great, So who's going to be scripted to win the next stupid match?
Oh she's maturing quickly. These guys are fucking CUNTSI lapsed at only ten years
old. Oh, I fucking love it. After a little explaining that we
don't get mad about movies being scripted, she got back on board and had
the most fun I've ever seen her have, cheering and screaming, and even
went on to be the recipient of Cody Roads's white belt, making her making
four a truly magical night. But I almost lost her at match one.
Thanks for all your hard work, boys. The cast is never long enough,
and as a lover of cinema, House must commend JP, who's absolutely
hit a wonderful stride on cinemat which is an absolutely necessary compliment to the main
show. The cast always goes deep into my ears during mundane tasks and every
night before bed, and deep into my arse at all times. Thank you
for whole comania andres the service we provide. And it's a wonderful little vignette
there, isn't it? The coming of age story. I love that.
I love that one. Hockeen Nights CT writes on Patreon. Bob Holly is
the only wrestler who should have been allowed to write multiple books just to update
us on any new assholes he may have discovered. Yes, I totally agree.
This guy is a totally undiscovered treasure. Underdiscovered, I think is the
word I'm looking for. Are you ready for somemore Brian? Oh? Of
course he has a kind of a more personal one instead of just the greatest
hits. But it's fine. It's a kind of combination of the two.
Boy uh rewind rewind rewind Holy shit, Jesus Christ, Hello, CoA chairs.
I first heard about the show on a message board. Someone was discussing
the Canadian Stampede episode and lapsed Helen Hart saying she should have aborted Bruce fucking
hell. I knew immediately I needed to listen. It was a great episode
to listen to thanks to the amazing lats. Here is a snippet of this
bit. Bruce, shut the fuck up. Nobody likes you all right already.
Fucking Look, you were a big mistake. Not only were you not
not only were you not ship Bruce. Not only not only were you not
planned, but I should have had that abortion. I was in the room.
I was gonna do it. Bruce. You are you are a walking
abortion, all right. It should have been nonexistent, the biggest mistake of
my life. You should not exist. So, by the grace of Hell,
by the grace of Satan, you're here. I love the riff on
how Jr. Pronounced Great Sasuke Sasuke as Great Sauce a k which led to
you the Great Meat Sausake Virgil under a Mask, which is even funnier after
the tribute episode, The Great Misso super Ka, the Great Tip to the
Great hip Tosske, the Charlie Hasseke, Oh my god, the Big bossa
ke Man Jim rossa Ke, and the Winkle Fossaki, Oh my god,
that is a fucking like holy shit, I forgot all about that. I
wonder who, I wonder who had just fucking watched h the uh the Social
Network and one of my fucking was like Winkle foth Great. The wonderful bits
and the amazing insight into the ten man tag main event immediately hooked me on
the show, featuring a little bit of everything that makes TLF great, and
I went back to the beginning with summer Son ninety one and caught up as
soon as I could. Speaking of Sumislam, I firmly believed that Shimoslam is
the ultimate non journey event for TLF. In addition to the first episode of
the show, it has two of the greatest standalone episodes of all time,
SummerSlam many two and SummerSlam two thousand and five. SummerSlam two thousand and two
with the iconicness e Mon I'm Fucked and JP's reading of Diana Hart's Pulitzer worthy
Tom under the mat, which should which would provide inspiration of the name front
of the Somat. Indeed, she is truly a genius for her ability to
recall for a word every conversation from decades ago. Summerson two thousand and five
had three bonkers pieces Hogan, Sean, Eddie Ray, and Edge Matt Hardy.
The Edge Matt Hardy bit had an incredible stretcher to lapse. Vince talks
to Edge about rewarding him with a title in beating John Cena if he could,
if he would destroy Matt Hardy and lead his relationship laps, Vince then
revealed that he wants the Hardy's destroyed because they are from North Carolina and he
was raised in North Carolina, which prompted Jack to say electrifying Boss. Laps
Vince said he wanted them destroyed because they remind him of things he doesn't like
upon himself. It wasn't your fall fence over and over like Robin Williams and
Goodwill hunting. Laps Vince then said, don't do this to me, Edge,
don't do this to me Edge, except this is the show. It's
not gonna get any better than that. And then laps Hogan loses his shit
Gorilla grabbing the heads said training the Undertaker match, which is one of the
greatest bits in Lapse history. Oh my god. The two constants of the
show are You're ever deepening investigations of being too Vince and Hogan and your ability
to tap into their psychees. Time always seems to prove that laps Vince and
laps Hogan aren't the truth, as revelations about there about the men mirror statements
made years earlier by the co chairs. I love that this Tuesday and Texts
episode. It was one of the first glimpses into the co Chairs origin with
the discussion of Jack's valedictory speech and all the little line thrown in that people
didn't get we're jokes and thought were meaningful, including lines cribbed from Jake.
So the episode had an excellent discussion of what made Jake absolutely compelling, absolutely
how we were likely just like lose in our minds, like explaining Jake,
Oh my god, oh forget fuck yeah, Oh he was just look he's
he you know he was, he was, he was just the best.
Trust him as you know, exactly exactly trust him because you know what,
you can't trust him. Wow, and you never will. Uh. The
Wrestling Journey was incredible. Each episode was fantastic, and the larger series chart
at the course of w W and it's effect on the overall wrestling business.
I believe it was during the course of this first journey that TLF stopped any
censoring. Yes, it is a bit bizarre going back to older episodes.
After listening to years and years of completely unfiltered episodes, still early episodes have
shelf life. It is also whild listening to the death toll for early episodes
and realizing how many more people would be on the list today, there's so
many of twenty. During a four way tag match with Rakish, she ended
up with a riff about oh wow Ah about John Depond having a conversation with
Laps Vince. John said I'm a very serious person. Vince then said,
I'm very serious to them. I'm very serious about defiling these hoes. Oh
my, Jacka should say no, I can't afford this. I can't.
We're done. Twenty episodes in after defiling the Hodes, We're done. Oh
my god. It's pain. It's pain. It's so far out there.
I can't defend it. I can't see my computer through the fucking tears.
Unbelievably funny segment, but after revelations about Vince in recent months, it is
very realistic that Vince would have had conversations with someone named John about defiling women.
Yikes. Yeah, I could find each I could find which episode it
came from. But I loved Laps and saying snook a push. I can
tell you what episode that's from. That's from It's a Saturday Night's main event
from eighty nine leading into this, the Survivor series whatever. I don't know
what number, Yes, yeah, I don't know why I remember that being
that, but I remember it being that episode. The Starkeare Memorial tour was
fantastic. A few brief highlights were treating Bob Coddle as an ecaleptic and w
and Bob fra Gordon the pimp King, and making Lee Marshall out to be
the world's greatest preferend. My favorite bit might be Laps Vince learning about Hogan
going to WW and saying, over and over, Hogan Turner, Hogan Turner,
I love Jack debating Laps Thattch getting Everybody to Me of Season five with
the Wire, where prosecutors had Clay Davis seemingly dead, dead to rights and
he annihilated them with his routine in front of the jury, followed by the
prosecutor saying, what the fuck just happened? And whatever it was, they
don't teach it in law school can lapse, Nash say, she the scapegoat
for the whole day. You know, fuck it, what you want from
me, I'm just sitting here just doing my fucking thing, you know,
every fucking day, doing my fucking thing. Just look, I'm not gonna
sit there and and you know, just let fucking hypocrisy run the roost.
You know, I gotta take care of shit, you know, and that
means me fucking sitting in my you know, sitting in a fucking uh uh
Shay's lounge, you know, watching TV all day. It's the way it
fucking is. It's just tremendous. It's his face, Yeah, it's fucking
it's like puffy face. You know, like does this giant like you know,
uh, Santa Claus rosy cheeks, you know, and his and his
eyes that are just like so squinty in his old age, you know,
like he's just he's always half asleep. He's always half asleep. Yeah,
I just you know, I came back from going to the fucking supermarket and
I realized I was like, oh, ship, you know what, I
haven't had fucking honeynut cheerios in like two years. I was like, you
know what, I'm going to get some of that, ship. Yeah,
a couple of hours apples and a pair uh just strolling around down the fucking
aisles and in the uh, in the publics, you know, shopping for
images, that's right, you know, shopping for imagery. And I always
thinking myself as like, you know, if I had if i'd had,
you know, if i'd been you know, if I had to do something
different, I'd do it all over again. I'd be a fucking DP.
Yeah, shooting film. I got the eye for it. Yeah, I
got a good I got a good sense of comp Oh, you can say
that again, Ken, you can say that again. Check the bank account.
Check the ten ninety nine it said the comp I did not know that
was fucking laid out for me. Good sense of comp Yeah. On the
back end. Yeah, you know, like I'll be the first fucking DP
to get points in the film, you know, fucking get more points of
fucking Will Smith. You know, Hm, that'll be the first DP to
get points in a film. Awesome. Brian's bringing back all kinds of great
memories fucking Kevin Nash behind a fucking camera, like fucking designing shots with the
director. But you know what I'm thinking, you know, we get a
nice the scene, I'll tell you what you know, Like, look,
you do what you want. You know, you're the director, But I
tell you, you know, the scene is calling for like a noir like
Stark lighting it up. Wow, you know, and we can just kind
of like do a slow push in with the dolly. Yeah, I just
think, I just think could be fucking money. You do what you want.
You know, you're the boss, But I'm telling you where the fucking
money is. Yeah, it's not pussy footing around fucking Noir with the pushing.
Yeah, the old the n p I. Yeah, so muny.
Yeah, we do a fucking n p I. We call it a day
area show. I'm sorry, I'm sorry, n p I. What can
you Yeah, Noir pushing, you know, Noir lighting set up. We
push him with a dolly and yeah, what's the problem, nothing, no
problem, h action. I guess we're good. And when it came to
GDPs trying to turn to the WO, they pushed him with the DEALI heah,
you know, we fucking pushed him with a dolly and we pushed the
Dali. Yeah, Delli, Yeah, I fucking love Dai. It wouldn't
be in this fucking position with a him. He's like the uh the only
non nwonwo the fucking fucket uh eat. In every journey the show is undertaken
has that of new layers, new jokes, new clips, which have made
the show richer and funnier. It has been interesting listening to which wrestlers really
click with you during a journey, and who you consider the hero of a
journey like Nick Bockwinkle during the Life and Death of the aw A ABA series
was memorable for a number of reasons. Laps Vern getting his ninety percent and
his Dinah powder of seeing how much of the Hogan era in ww was largely
taken from the ABA, Larry Nelson being a mess rod tron guard. The
Trial series unleashed wrestling's greatest bulldog. It was not Davy Boy Smith or Dynamite
Kid, It was Jerry mcdeviit correct. I have never heard anyone more relentless
than mcdebit tearing apart George the Horion on the stand. You two are absolute
mad men for acquiring and acting out the complete court transcripts. Nobody comes anywhere
close to you too. A few phrases are integral to the show. Whose
turn is it going to be? JP saying somehow someone looks like someone looks
like the child of person X in person wy fall by jacklin them up and
laughing. Anytime you say what's wrong or what's the problem is fantastic. My
favorite recurring bit has to be anytime you break into Lapse Boston locals, especially
talking about Boston cops. Any segment that covers is beer, Gold and Jes
has given us annoyed locals, which is always hilarious. Oh, I almost
forgot one. The Lapse editor is to always remind us that it is fake.
Other great components of the show are Jack pulling from the Laps bookshelf and
JP playing the Lapse jukebox. I'm always tickled by JP's constant disdain for Seth
Rollins and Scott Norton. Oh my god, Yeah, they can't go to
the grave fast enough. The tribute episodes of the show have also been highlighted,
from Dusty and Bruno to Patterson and Virgil. Taylor provides insight into what
makes them memorable, good or bad, and infuses the tributes with humor.
In addition to being the most insightful podcast and the funniest podcast, the Coachairs
have delicately handled the most horrifying and sad topics. I think of the Over
the Edge, nine to nine and ben Wy episodes, as well as the
nine to eleven episode. I also remember how hard JP took watching the Mike
van Eric press conference during the lamentable chat tragedy episodes. The Patreon content has
been incredible with the live calls under the cinemat Wrestle Mamia and this American work.
UTC resulted in one of my favorite mainstays of family FEWD music. Oh
God, Guy just always las when deployed by JP. UTC also gave us
the I Went Back clip from Jesse's interview for Predator, and it has been
interesting hearing a bit of TLF lore with Patreon getting uh getting to listen to
the call for wrestler's deaths. The use of cameos has been a brilliant idea.
Of the absolute best was the recent Neporadi cameo from Kevin Nash. Jack
comments on a nation's conclusion, saying, where sheep. I just want to
make sure I'm not one that gets sheer for my old Kevin Nass story.
The fucking election coming up. You know, you know we're just fucking shore
out of politics. But I don't want to get into politics. Soo,
but whatever time goes su matter, man, it doesn't matter. You know,
I'm just fucking sheep. I just don't want to be the sheep that
gets That's why I get shorn for his wool after a decade of episodes.
There are what we consider involuntary lapsisms. There are words or phrases on the
show like roll up or behind that always prompt laps O, what brother or
who you taught been talking to? Because of the double biz clips from TNH
and I find myself saying double bins anytime I take out my cartage recycling double
bins. That's really funny. I can't remember when, but one of my
favorite moments on the show was JP getting extremely annoyed by Jack doing a Bruce
Pritchard impression and Jacks I was saying I found my nash. Speaking of Jack's
impressions, his Patterson impression is a highlight lapse of in saying Patterson get in
here, followed by yes boss as a staple of the show. My absolute
favorite Jack impression is when he does Suja Bangs, the bizarre accent and delivery,
the check bulls out and kills me every time. Charles Dickens might have
written a Tale of two Cities, but t f gave us a tale of
two Terry's and three thread we DNAs and a lapse funk. I know which
one is a bigger gift to culture, and it came from a particular podcast.
Teenage gave us Laser Spine, Hogan, Legal Eath, and more than
any other journey, an incredible array of all time clips. You're a clown,
no doubt, one, tooth Ornoli, Hide the Ball, and my
personal favorite, Foaming at the Crotch are just some of the amazing clips.
And of course, the Dixie theme song The Lapse Funks gave us the longest
time spanning and widest ranging journey of them all. And where are We?
And I went ahead, hang on, dude, I hang uned Hada Honda
Hala Halla, what right? All those two? Some other highlights of the
show Laps Barnett saying my boy and I can't laps him hurt, talking in
piece metaphors, Laps pilgrimage of the Silver Dome, the numerous amazing lines from
Heen and JP's Jesse impression, JP reciting Hogan promos he had memorized when Chief
Brunch Jock saying, what do we got today? Boys? Huh, I'm
not gonna do it. I can't go into it. It's gonna let let
for now this suffice. What we What are we doing today? Home boys?
Ris to the crimes. He's one of those guys, you know,
because you imagine Chief Brun. Okay, he's got no he's got no neck.
All he's got is chin and double chin. First. It's kind of
like siting here the whole time. Man, you know, Oh my god,
you know who I fucking pictures as Chief brunchuck crist of all fucking people,
print think people. I think we've only seen him one time on uh
uh on cinemat maybe at this point, Mike Starr Stark, m I K
E S T A R R. Okay, not not the musician, but
the actors. Chief Brunch totally am that is perfect. He's a little too
tall. I picture him being a little bit shorter, but that's still Nonetheless,
I pictured to the guy from NYPD Blue, the fat guy. Oh
Dennis Franz. Mm hmm yeah, friends, I think he retired after something.
I think I think he retired and something happened his career, his career,
like he just died after he left them, my p D Blue,
And I'm just looking through look at him, look at fucking France. Oh
his his real name, Dennis Franz, Schlata Schloa, Schlockla oh gosh,
Salmon Russia. Oh my god, it's the fun whah then wah oh it's
really, oh my god, it's really oh my god, how do I
get that from? Where's the god? Damn uh? Where the fucking oh?
Here you my boy? Yeah? Oh cheap brund Jack saying from JP,
I pop anytime. JP says, coming sooner onto the cinemat, Jack
sing, ladies and gentlemen on you, TC Shame and Payne, Robert Parish,
well we got it, yep. Imagine It's like it's like globs fucking
shooting out of his fucking cock, having needed a champion. JB discussing some
of those things, giving sandwich laps, Vince's nonsense, corporate speak, Kevin
Salvin shoveling snow. Some recent favorite moments are someone joked, what movie does
hul Cogan hate? The blind Side Brother? Exactly? Dude, that's not
cool, all right, totally not cool. There should be no blind Side
Brother. We should have eyes all around. Speaking of, look at the
next line, Jack noting during teenage that he would constantly say, O,
brother, what why So true that Journey fucked me up on that front.
So true. I'm a sorrow on the I'm like Cactus Jack Triple Ah Street
Fight from the two thousand and rumble. The crowd is into it, but
this is stupid. No wonder, there's so many mental health problems. JB
said about Todd Gordon during Lapsed Funk, how do you think this guy scammed?
Oh? How much do you think this guy scammed? In a days
daily pass? Jack? When you think of Todd Gordon, JB, I
feel like I just got robbed. Jack. Why he's put to the gentleman,
he's put together by other people's money. I feel like I just swindled
me out of money now, and it's from thirty years Oh, holy shit,
holy shit, I don't remember that at all. That's fucking funny.
The James Bond you see Journey, which is now underway, already has a
number of gem Jack Ass said, the question has to be asked, is
it winstill the Churchill's stern during the Casino Royal, JP said, Peter Sellers
is the reality we choose to ignore? Peters is the reality? Renor that's
tremendous. I'm discussing just incredible telling Vince that he's Portuguese. Jack Quinton names
Kurti Gola just now no, I know we've read from his book in the
okay, so that was kind of the inspission laps funk during the funk sabur
and man, oh, well, you know what, he is a man
of war, that's for sure. Just incredible laps funk during the funk Saboo.
Jane Douglas's match said I got a giant pole. I got a giant
pole in my pants, and Jack so Fair lapsed funk ECW. There was
discussion about a wrestler from the Turn of the Center, which led Jack to
say Turn of the Centrum was that Owest in Persus b Rest me at thirteen.
Japs, very slowly getting the joke, said it was a double turn
of the century. We went again. Sorry Jesus Sorry, Ready to rumble.
Davy said the director made a movie called Bigger Fatter. Liar Check said
that's a movie about a butcher. Labs Vin said r O. I was
return on investigation. Hell work every time. Oh my god, this is
too much. I cannot this American work. Laps then said life is work
because work sucks. Jack, during the most recent mail Bag episode has laps
hoke and talking about climate change is co o do stand fa out to brother
oh ship exactly all the marvels utc J read from an r in the Culture
Progress and the Child of the Carnival and Cousin of the God, which prompted
Jack to say, I standing all. Then JP, from the article deception
is rife and determining fact is a front check Lapp said, exactly correct.
Is that a deal f X sentiment or what ja as? Just fucking hours?
Oh god, I'm silly lad, Now I don't know for recording rings
j C. JP also talked about Billy Wolf taking. He said, one
guy is taking half of all the money that is wrestling. Oh gods,
fifteen boss man taker as I want to sell, JP said, in response
to his mother, I've never seen I've never seen college wrestling happen in a
cage. No, she said, that's brutal and a crime. Regarding by
hanging hangings, Oh my god, it's brutal and hanging there. You're making
her watch, Oh my god, Hogan winning the debbat title. Jack the
Last Fan is about what the kitchen looks like after the matches were getting food
in the hotel room. As the coachers have said many times, it's all
about food. TILLEF is the best college podcast, humor podcast, wrestling podcast,
the best podcast in existence, and all sincerity. One of the great
pieces of art about America nostalgia deception. Yes, TALF is one of the
great pieces of ongoing art in the twenty first century. It just also happens
to be absurd and hilarious. The co chairs are correct and saying it used
to be better, but for most things, but TILLAF keeps getting better and
better. Congratulations on ten years of the show, and I look forward to
the next ten years. Yeah, damn Disgus in his fucking part, I
can't tell you. I can't. I really some of those knock me out.
O sh We can't do more than one of those in a mail back.
Seriously, it's like too much. It tastes too much on them.
Oh my god, wrapping up here. Timothy Lee, Saster, Brad Murphy,
Andy Yellen, h DP, George Diaz, dav Stephen Tackett, Lumpy
Brian b and Mark Henry. Y'all know who you are, and thanks so
for him much for the pledge. Zach wrightes just made the switch to moat
tier. I know it took me longer than I wanted. But I'm here
and I'm here to stay. I've listened to you guys for seven years now.
October twenty eighteen. First show was Your Invasion Show, and I was
hooked from JP's graphic teardown of Kevin Dunn. I've been a patron on and
off for the better part of five years, canceling mostly because I wasn't financially
well enough. I've been eptre for almost two years now, and I'm finally
making the jump to Moat. I'll be starving, staying starving. There we
go. That's two. Here's a fortith slip. Thanks for everything you do.
You guys make my life better by being here. Cheers ZGPS. I
don't know if you'll remember me, but my doggie Cobra died in October.
Bought a cameo from Lapsed Vince. Oh yes, I remember that. The
Boss was rehearsing producing King of the Jews was very gracious about getting it to
me. You guys are awesome, have fun and Philly. Hopefully I'll be
there to see you live where Romania is next year. Very interesting, so
waiting on confirmation on that front. Kind of weird. Yeah, it's funny
because they don't. They usually announced it during wrestling. Yeah, we always
know by now. Yeah, Neil writes, this is how much TL is
in my day. When ordering a new printer, my boss asked me,
do you need color? Brother the urge to reply, well, in a
decent wrestling match, you always need color. Oh man, that's what we're
doing, these little moments across the world every single day. Let's see what
else. Yeah, Phil knows the truth going. This is as we get
to wrestle a new weekend, going to a Stamp convention to check out a
building with the WFT TV dippings forty years ago. No, that's hardcore is
Carlo wrote very well on this. The comment simply is no legitimate enterprise,
no legitimate people, no legitimate gross shirt. Andrew Brister, William Uran,
Jack, Tracy Thomas, Pratt, Connor Elsie Man. We really blew up
over this fucking wrestlming weekend. There's so many new faces. People needed that
journaling, They needed that content. Michael Uran, Steve Peter Reze j R.
L Thomas d. Caleb Bodwin, Jay Wad from Atown, PA,
thank you very much. We met We met him. He was one of
the guys that I think we're going to get to it that shouted you out
while you had pizza in your face. He said, oh yeah, that
was yes, yes, yeah, Askla, thank you so very much.
And Jonathan and Edge Gosh ninety eight and Josh Gabriel, Cameron Watkins, Joe
Carr and Mike Robinson, Jay Legend, Alex Schweed and Ash and Liam Kuchi
and Eric Prater and Matt Denny and Ted Booze who came through so strong and
the Paul Walter Hauser match so far strong and very regretful that we couldn't get
together in Allentown, but we will make it happen one day. J w
Odam Cody Hinkle and Scott Arnold and Brett Liuckfield and Jake Anthony Martin and Edwin
Krapp and uh and my god, what about a Nindra Balasubraananniam and Panda and
this anonymous person and Andy Kennedy Derkai and Brandon Davis and Adam b and cayleb
Urvin. Is that enough? I think it's rough. Jesus, what a
fucking roster, what a fucking lineup? So many great comments, so much
great insights, John writes to us John Bonnie, longtime supporter, thinks is
always co chairs. Live calls are always a treat. It's also the closest
I'll get to watching these days. Yes, don't forget we're watching this so
you don't have to Josh who hooked us up with that hilarious clip that we
played during our Philly show of the local news shitting on everyone in line for
ww world? Yeap, she goes what is wrong with you? On the
news, He writes, the Bozo's brunch was the highlight of our weekend.
Just want to say thank you. How absolutely thrilling you guys use this video
as part of your show. To say I've marked out pretty hard would be
an understatement. My buddy Jared also bumped into the chairman a night too at
Manian was so starstruck he couldn' think of anything to say other than warned of
the dangers of paying eleven dollars for a slice of cold crap little Caesars vizza?
Is that what it was? Was it Caesar's Year? No? I
didn't you had Caesar's. I had Caesars. Yeah, I don't know.
Is he talking to me? I don't like, so, I don't know,
and he may have possibly said up a big of a TLF fan he
is, thanks again and keep doing what you do at the fan lapsed well,
Josh, thank you. That was a critical contribution. People love that
show so great all Tom puts a very interesting note out there, whole weekend
Russell Manie weekend was really about crowning Paul, not Cody new Era. Paul
new Era is Paul got Paul him to say, I'm a Paul of that
guy. All got the hero shot with his wife on Instagram. I'm fine
with all of it because it wasn't I wasn't investing Cody story after they dropped
the ball last year. But this was Paul's weekend. That's so true.
The further away he get from it, the more that's kind of the the
prevailing sentiment I feel like, so looking back on that historic weekend, Andrew
Patrick David, longtime supporter, Always great to hear from him. Thanks you
for doing what it took to get that, uh that Jenelle Grant complaint on
the record. Boss, Oh Jesus, thank you for reading the entire complaint
of the main feed, Andrew writes, uninterrupted by ads asides, jokes or
anything that could distract the listener from the reality they must contend with themselves if
they are to have any chance of living as anything remotely approaching the lowest effort
possible to almost technically pass for basic human decency. No excuses, no days
off, no bullshit, no bitches, not then, not now, not
ever, stay lapsed. Thank you, Thank you very much. Andrew appreciate
that acknowledgment. That was it had to be done, as we said,
very much so. And as we wrap up, there was something that we
kind of felt compelled to do on stage in Philly that we ended up not
really having the time to, but it was it was a nod to Christian,
who we've talked about, who is in the crowd and who put together
something rather remarkable. Yes, looking back in the spirit of TLFX and I
figure year by year, boss, but what we're going to do here and
maybe person by person fuck year by year. Yeah. Sure. What Christian
has done is taken the time to go back to twenty fourteen when this all
started, we started doing the death toll, and so many impactful deaths of
so many has broke era staples right, so many it's stunning to think of
how many childhood heroes were still alive when we started this thing and are no
longer with us. Yep. So now, in conclusion of this mailbag episode,
we're going to toll the bell for ten years worth of passing in the
wrestling world and beyond, sort of like tangential characters that have come up on
our show or people of cultural significance that had something to do with the show
are listed as well. And it's not just wrestlers we've even talked about,
but wrestlers have some prominence that have also passed in the ten years. Presenting
now courtesy of courtesy of our man Christian, the TLFX Immemorial Decade of Death
Toll ten years of death and suffering. We begin in twenty fourteen, and
we're going to do this like they would do, you know, a reading
of the victims of nine to eleven or something. Yep. Billy Robinson,
Bob Geigel, George Scott, The Jigglow, Jimmy del Ray, Larry Nelson,
Shagger, Lee Marshall, a Young Fox, Baker, Ricky Starr,
Sean O'Hare, The Ultimate Warrior, VISCERA twenty fifteen Akira Who Brother, Ashura,
Horror, Nature Boy, Buddy Langell, Ed Francis, The American Dream,
Dusty Rhodes, Nick Bockwinkle, Ouch, Peto Aguayo Junior, Rowdy,
Roddy, Tommy Gilbert, Tommy Rogers Vern. I can't believe that happened in
the midst of our show. That's one that I thought happened before, well
before. But it's wild. Twenty sixteen, Axel rotten Ball's Mahoney, Blackjack
Mulligan. China another one, another one I thought happened way before we started
doing the show. I remember you said, China Tribute. I said,
yeah, you're right, You're totally right. I can't that's why right the
line yep, yep, I do remember that now? Is it Don?
Is it Ron Bass or is it Don Bass? Donas somebody else? Okay,
Don Bass. Yeah, it's a part of Ukraine, I think,
Okay, Hayabusa, Lord Little Brook, Lord, James Blears, Iron,
Mike Sharp, Mister Fuji by Oko Doma. Twenty seventeen. Bob Sweeten,
Sweet Tan, Sweet Tan. He's on there not because he was important,
but because he had a sweet Tan. Dude, Sweet Tan brother. Are
you ready, Bobby the brain Heenan. I remember that I was in the
midst of working on something and I had to stop. I was like,
I was having at my at my my wife's old job. Yeah, we
were doing we were actually preparing a you know we'd do they'd have a faculty
cabaret type thing, and so they were planning on a We were filming like
a bunch of sketches with the the faculty and stuff, and we were doing
an office themed sketched and we were in the midst of writing it and then
you you gave me the call, and I was like, I actually said,
I have to go. I have to start doing some work here.
We have a problem. Indeed, indeed before we had a mote tier to
share it with. Yeah, exactly. Uh. Chavo Guerrero Senior, Dennis
Stamp no longer booked, Doug Summers, George the Animal, Steel, the
Russian Bear, Ivan Colof, Jimmy super Fly, Snooker, Lance Russell,
Matthew and Owahee also known as Rosie Nicole, Bass Auto vunce Ron Bass Smith
Heart not to be confused with Bruce Hart, Killer Wallsky, Triple H Trainer.
Legend of it from Lowell He's from Lowell. No, he's not from
Lowell. He's from Boston area though Malden Maldon right where school was. Timothy
Well Tom the Zman Zank twenty eighteen, Big Bully Busic mm HM, Brian
Christopher Brookhouse Brown, the former living but now deceased Legend, Bruno San Martino,
Chris Champion, Dirty Dick Slater, Don Leo, Jonathan the Dynamite Kid,
Jim the Envill Knightheart, Johnny Valiant not to be confused with the Boogie
Woogie Man, Jimmy Valiant, Jose Lathario, Larry the Axe, Penning,
Leon Big Van Vader White, Masa Saito God he died that I could have.
It's weird that Capitelli. Nikolai Volkoff Number one, Paul Jones twenty nineteen,
Lionheart, Adrian McCallum, Alberto Munos, Alex Perry, Alexis Smirnoff,
Ashley Massaro, at Shushiaoki Colton Quests the Destroyer, Dick Byer, Betty Marlin,
Jean Jean Oakerland, Jerry Hogarth at the time of his death, the
oldest living wrestler at ninety seven, Giant Gustave the Handsome King, Harley Race,
Jacques Rujo Senior, Jim Evans aka Trevor Adonnis Honest, John Cheatham,
that's funny, yeah, John Quinn, King Kong, Bundy kog Catau less
Is more Thornton, Max Muscle GDP's bodyguard at Travis Mike Hammer. Not to
be confused with the eighties TV detective drama Mistern Diebla Norman, Frederick Charles,
the Third Autobahn. Sorry, I'll blame you, Paco Alonso Pedro Morales,
Pero Aguayo Senior after his son was killed, of course. Note Ralphus,
Randy Colly aka moon Dog Rex hashtag trial of his Life right there, mhm
Rene Gulay Rex Baschas, Rick nw O Sting Bogner. No, that was
no. Rick Bogner was a fake razor right. His name was Jeff Farmer,
Rox and big In Staff aka Bella, Donna, Nature Boy, Roger
Kirby, Salvatore, BelOMO, Yep, Silver King, Tony the Annihilator,
The Wrestling Pro, Edward Leone, Yusuki, Wally Yamagucci twenty twenty, Bullet
Barra, Bob Armstrong, Brodie Lee oh Man, Danny Hodge Dick Steinborn,
Hannah Kimura, Howard the Fink, Finkel, The Ugandan Giant, Kamala,
Kazuo Sakarata, Joe Road Warrior, Animal, Laurionitis, Johnny Mister Wrestling to
Walker, Ian Kevin Green, La Parca, Pat Patterson, Pempio, fur
Po, Rip Oliver soul Man, Rocky Johnson the Rock's Dad, also a
deadbeat dad to many others. Allegedly, Shad gaspar wrote that in There not
a dead beat dad, just a dead dad. YEP, correct, That's
correct. Steve Casey, Tiny Zeus Lister, Tracy Smothers twenty twenty one,
Angelo Moster, Sor, Barry Orton, Blackjack Lanza, Beautiful, Bobby Eaton,
Buddy Colt, Avalanche, Buzz Tyler, The Natural Butcher, Read,
Chris Youngblood, Corporal Kirscher, Daphne The Patriot, Del Wilkes, Dominic Denucci,
Don Kernoudle, j Jimmy Crocker Junior AKA Jim Crockett Junior Jimmy Rave,
Jody the Assassin, Number One, Hamilton, Nick Patrick's Dad for Better or
Worse, Joseph Josephus Hudson, Judy Bagwell, Oh Melissa Coates, New Jack
Paul Mister Wonderful Orndorf, Reggie Parks, Ryan Soakota twenty twenty two, Royal
Stud Adam Windsor, Dori Funk's first wrestling school graduate, Antonio and Oki,
Candy Divine, Dave Hepner. I don't think I realized that maybe we did.
I don't know. I don't remember a call for that one for Candy
or Dave Dave Candy. I don't even know what that is. We did
a call, I don't know. I don't remember him. I don't even
know that he was dead. Actually, it was a kind of funny.
I was actually thinking about when we talked to Earl, I kind of wanted
to ask about Dave Glad I glad, I didn't, uh, Jean LaBelle
of Judo, you're not kidding? And of a training? Who was it
in Judo in that great scene? Oh yeah, Jimmy Cagney, Yeah,
Shashi Aoyagi, Mickey j Henson, w CW referee Rocky King, Sarah Lee
twenty fifteen, WWE Tough Enough winner Scott Hall, Timmy White twenty twenty three
General Adnan in Casey Exotic Adrian Street, Bert Sawyer, who was buzz Sawyer's
brother and ne Us w a tag champion with the Rock in Memphis Superstar Billy
Graham, Pray, Wyatt, Brett Sawyer, Buzzed Butch Bushwhacker Miller Draws,
Emil Duprey, Houssain Casro, Ali Vasiri, The Iron Chic, Jay Briscoe,
Jerry Jarrett, Joyce Grable, The Genius, Lanni Popo, Killer Con
Lumberjack, Pierre Lafleur, An Tar, Pierre Lafleur that was superbeated, Terry
Funk twenty four, Occubono Tarro, Jackie Crockett, Paul the Butcher, The
sean Onlie Anderson Virgil, and of course the Forever Dead One himself, Boss
the Undertaker. We'll see you next time, Miltman as a tej Disanta's production
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