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Hey, everybody, Welcome back to
Challenge the podcast all about the Challenge as

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always. I am Brian sitting across
the internets all the way over Germantown Hills,

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Big Uncle, Sweet Tea, and
still at work, never goes home,

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Zachy Bananas and who the fuck knows
where she's at this week. Carlin

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san Diego. I think I've originally, I've officially given up the CT.

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We're just gonna go with Carlin san
Diego for I like that one. That's

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a good one. Well, it's
not gonna make any sense when I go

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back to Wednesdays, but whatever I
mean, it might who knows my name

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hasn't made sense for years, and
I still I still stick with Krawdaddy,

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t Swing, Sweet Uncle, the
Ship, Swaggy Tea, Big Tea.

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Yeah, there's a lot of them. I know, I just go through

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them. I should mix it up
a little bit. Uh. Jacqueline says,

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I like Carlin san Diego. There
you go, I do too.

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It's good. Yeah, thank Wolfie
for that one. The Joker says that

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opening song reminds me of early eighties
bikini flicks. I used to quote unquote

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enjoy ah those times before the internet
those sweet innocent times. So I did

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the same thing. Especially if it
was like scrambled, you just had to

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like flip back and forth. I
hope it would stick on the screen even

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though it was scrambled. Yeah,
oh man, yep, being a guy

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in the nineties was terrible. Just
go to the local general store, just

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peruse the vhs. Look for ones
that look like women in bikinis. Those

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are the ones you gotta go for. Yeah, bikini car wash, bikini

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bakery, bikini. Yeah, this
has not become a bikini podcast. We

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are no longer talking about the challenge. Yep. I'm gonna leave, have

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a good night. I talked before
the divorce. I talked some friends of

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ours we're going through, like,
let's watch some of these old weird like

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bikini, you know whatever, and
watch them. I'm like, we should

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do a podcast called Titty Tuesday where
we just review these old like Skinnamax like

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movies. It'd be hilarious. Carlin
left. Carlin's like, how how much

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do you think it costs in twenty
twenty three to get a rock capella to

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do a Carlin intro song check?
Maybe they're on fiber, Maybe they're on

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cameo. Maybe they're on cameo.
Yeah, play it, play at Rockefella?

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Is that what they would say?
Sing it? Sing it Rockefella?

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Sing it? Maybe? Yeah,
like rock me on the Davis or do

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you know there is Carlin that played
on the Carmen San Diego show the acapella

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group. Yeah capella. Yeah they
didn't know that. Yeah. They they

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did the theme song just with their
mouths. Yeah cool. I mean I

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know what acapella is. I just
didn't realize that it was an acapella sing

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song or acapella song. Yeah,
the dude with the real low voice to

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the Carmen San Diego part. I'll
send you a video of it when we

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get done on here. Carlin perfect, she's not gonna be able to enjoy

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will get to shortly. Hey,
tell him what happened this episode? All

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right? This episode is episode eleven. It's called Slippery Business because they just

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ran out of good ideas for show
titles. I guess, so they're just

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like, fuck it, we'll just
name it after what the challenge is named

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this week. Oh yeah, So
Chris comes back into the house after winning

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his third elim nation and again not
excited. Nobody in the house is excited.

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He looks defeated. Everybody else looks
upset that he's there. Still not

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exactly a celebration as they head back
to the house. He did get some

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some pats on the back this time, though. Yeah. They seems kind

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of empty though, and they they're
all bullshit, I mean, considering what

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happens in this episode. Yeah,
they just want him gone, so it's

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like they'll pay him some little lip
service. But nobody's excited that he's there.

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And we see Chris and he says
that he's back in the house and

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he's ready to target Fessie and Tyler. He feels like those are the two

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big guys that he needs to sort
of focus on getting out for some reason,

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I don't know. I don't know
why he thinks that, because they're

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both the two that keep like putting
him in. But a lot of people

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are putting him in. They are
they're like voting him in and ship.

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But I mean, I think they
have when they've been in power. I

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think they directly put him in Yea, that's probably it. Yeah, And

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so this is when he gets of
a lot of these people that are sort

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of feeling alone in the game,
like Cassidy Tyler and even Chris, and

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they sort of all talk about how
we are unaligned. We're just sort of

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floating by in this house where it
constantly targets, and there's some little conversation

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between all three of them maybe trying
to see if there's a way they can

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sort of navigate this game together.
None of this ends up coming into fruition,

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but like, not a bad plan, right, guys? Sure together?

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Yeah, I mean I'm kind of
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that are just kind of floating,
being that we are relatively far in this

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game and there are some very big
alliances, so it is kind of surprising.

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Yeah, it seems like Survivor the
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else is just sort of floating around. Yep. This is when I think

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banding together is a good idea.
I think so too. I Mean,

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everybody needs numbers and these Yeah,
if nobody has an alliance, it's like,

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of course, just vote this same
but they can't even manage to do

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that, So what do I know. Hey, the editors screwed me up

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this time. Guys, Corey gets
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a couple of weeks ago, if
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probably going home. Oh true.
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phone, I was like, oh, son of a bitch, Corey's leaving.

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I love Corey, but Christmas on
the phone at some point too.

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I know they're throwing me off this
season. Man, it's screwing me up.

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I know you guys don't care about
this Cory phone call, right,

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I really thought of you. He's
got kids way, Oh my god,

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I did when he started getting choked
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to god. I mean I appreciated
the scene because it does like it.

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It shows Corey in a light.
I mean he what was it like seven

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or eight years ago when he got
the the Slut of the House award it

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yea at the un right right after
they slut shame the ship at a Tory.

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Yeah, like, oh here's Corey. Women. I hated that,

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absolutely hated that because of what they
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it's nice to see Corey as the
family man. And around his like

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it's nice to see him get real
chucked up around his kids. And yeah,

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it shows I mean, it really
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those two. Congrats Corey kept having
sex with a woman until she got pregnant.

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Good job for you. Such a
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be. I'm with you, Carlin. It shows depth of character that he

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is like and it doesn't seem like
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super dedicated to those kids. Yeah, I think it's awesome. Absolutely all

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right, Well that's it for this
sort of pre thing. We are already

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into the challenge will be hit the
button? Pollis man likely? I did

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I hit it twice? It's probably
gonna play again. Nice, I hope.

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So I can't get enough CT.
This one's called slippery business. As

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I just said. TJ gives a
big long intro about why this is like

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important to the country that they're in. Who cares about any of that?

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It's just a wil wrestling, Yeah, they wanted to find out, So

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find some way to say oil wrestling
without actually saying oil, right, It

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sounds gross unless they say, like, oh, it's a cultural tradition.

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All right, yeah, right,
it's just people getting slathered up and wrestling.

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Something for everybody, though. I
oiled up a bunch of women getting

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oiled up Sydney west Side the best
challenge of the season, maybe the best

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song of best years. Yeah,
they've had they've had challenges like this,

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and quite a few in the last
not quite a few. They've had a

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smattering of them in the last like
ten years. There was the one where

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it was the big pit with all
the balls down at the bottom and they

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had to like jump into the pit
with all the soap and climb back up

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the walls. And they've had a
few things like this where they're just covered

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in oil and soap and things,
and it's fun. It's fun to watch,

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for sure. I love it.
I think it's great, Zach.

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You know, I definitely cracked up
about how into it the guys were getting

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with pouring the stuff all over them, and Tory was the only one of

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the women getting into it. I
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kind of ripped off as a dude. We had to watch all the dudes

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do that, and then it's the
women's time. They just are not they're

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not even trying. Yeah, But
again, this falls back into that same

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thing where Tory got slut shamed to
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Corey got an award for being a
slut. It's that same thing,

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Like the women aren't going to pour
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that they're immediately going to be slut
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dudes do it, it's be like, oh, look at them and look

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how sexy. Do you think it'd
be shamed? I mean it would be

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absolutely objectified for sure. No,
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This isn't by the men. There
are women who watch the show who

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are women are the are the meanest
people? Two other women? And there

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are women that watch this show that
will absolutely look at it go ah,

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I can't believe that they played into
it this much. Look at what they're

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doing. It would happen. Yeah, you think it'd be more women than

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men that would get interesting. Absolutely, I could see men definitely objectifying and

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like, I mean, objectifying is
probably the only real word for it.

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Oh yeah, the dudes will be
objectifying the fuck out of them, But

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yeah, it's the women that'll get
that really really vile. With what they're

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saying. Yeah, well that's too
bad. It really robbed us of some

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nice shots. I think I agree, Zach, you said this is the

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best. What made it the best
just the hot women with a oil on

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them. I mean, Dad definitely
helps. But also just like you know,

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we love the like physical eliminations,
the hall brows, and this was

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just yeah basically get you know,
slippery and like wrestle each other. So

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like, I just I love the
physicality. I think it would be more

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fun if they'd done it like one
on one elimination like tournament style. Me

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too, EISO would have done that. Yeah, it was very weird having

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all of them start at the same
time and then no real like guidance on

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it. I don't know, No, I call bullshit because everybody teams up

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on Chris and throws him out.
Yeah, everybody teams up on Tyler and

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I'm like, don't be a bunch
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well, and with Tyler especially,
they were just like they were just like

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bananas. You get him. The
other guys in there, like, what's

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going on? You guys should be
wrestling each other time. I know,

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Yeah, I think you guys will
finally you'll you'll be you'll be happy about

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this. This is the first episode
that I was really like, Okay,

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I understand why people like Michaela.
Yeah, because she like as she's doing

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her confessionals, like Bessie's just standing
there like he's just pointing telling people what

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to do. I was like,
thank you. I glad that we're not

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the only ones to see this,
right. Yeah, I appreciated her in

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this episode. I yeah, I
always appreciate her. I think she's great.

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But she also looked real fucking hot
and coming up from winning. I

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made a note of that one.
The last episode or two has been like,

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oh, I see Michaela in a
totally different light all of a sudden.

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I don't know what happened, but
I think I think it was the

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shirt. The shirt from last episode. It was like, oh, yeah,

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that's that awoke something in me.
Still not better than Olivia's. I

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don't know, A man, I
don't know, but Tim likes the Tim.

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Tim likes the the smaller women with
pale skin and dark hair, which

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I realized Michaela does not have either
of those two things, but he wants

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the petite woman and uh, Olivia's
boobs are definitely upset. I don't think

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I'm a petite woman, guy,
I don't. I don't think that even

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smaller or your ex wife was smaller
she was. I didn't like her.

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I'm not saying that I liked at
one point in time. That's true.

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Yes, but you talked about Chris. Chris did an admirable job with five

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dudes on him. He did a
great job. It was outstanding. He

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would even had the upper hand in
a couple of different cases, but ultimately,

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when it's five against one, you're
gonna lose. Like its just you

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just are. I'm a big Chris
fan this season. Yeah, no ship,

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Yeah, I hope he just sucks
all these assholes over me too.

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So far, he's doing it because
I mean, if this was Johnny,

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he would be throwing the biggest fit
in the entire world. Keep throwing me

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in every time he did that earlier
this season. Yeah, now like that's

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all that they keep doing a Chris
yep, and look Allison saying the same

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thing. I think Chris is when
he a lot of fans on this season,

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everybody, everybody loves the underdog,
and he certainly is that role.

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I disagree about the Johnny aspect though, well, of course you did.

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Johnny threw a ship fit when he
got his name just thrown in the hopper.

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Yeah, yeah, Banana should be
embarrassed. Frankly, Johnny throws a

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ship fit anytime he gets nominated.
Anytime he's even remotely close to it,

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he throws a ship fit. Yeah. So I have not been listening to

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this podcast all season. I just
started relistening like a couple of days ago,

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binging them, and he's been bringing
up a lot. Why because he's

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amazing second greatest challenge podcast behind ours. I mean, at least you've got

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that right. But no, like
he's been talking a lot about how like

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him and the other vets were like
greatly in a horrible position. He's like,

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yeah, it's kind of like what
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because of that, like I don't
hold it against him, like I get

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it, Like they should be doing
this. This is why I've been doing

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for years, you know, a
fair game. So I don't think he's

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get at all. Why is he
throwing a big fit on TV? I

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think he tried to use his like
his history, his you know, like

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the respect he has like two intimiday
people, and they're like, if he's

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just like oh okay and like lays
down takes it, it's gonna be easier.

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But if he's like, who the
f is throwing me in, you

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know, like people are gonna be
a lot more afraid to throw him in.

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Abody out of that, he looked
pathetic. M notice that since he's

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done that though he went in.
Now, since he did that, he

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hasn't got in again. All right, whatever, Uh, that's that's about

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it for the dudes. Oh,
at the end, it ends up just

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Corey versus Fessi, and really maybe
it doesn't matter who wins because they're both

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sort of aligned together and whatever.
But what do you guys think of this

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last round? Cos I love that
Fessi's just like, this is what I

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do. I played for years.
This is amazing, and I stood around

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and just directed people. Cory's all
I gassed out. I think Corey's like,

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oh no, fuck that bullshit and
just like chucked him out of the

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ring. I loved this Watching Corey, I legitimately like out loud yes and

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started like I was super excited that
Corey actually got this one. Yeah,

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because god, Fessie is just such
a douche. I think all of us,

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I think we all appreciate and celebrate
when Fessi loses anything. He also

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I hate that. I'm gonna say
this right now. Josh Loak's better than

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Hita is Josh. I don't like
Josh, but Josh looks better than he

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does, especially has really fallen off
on me, like keeping that physique site

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and nice and tight. I know, yeah, Josh, Josh looks good

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this season, even Chris, like
in comparison to how he has looked in

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previous seasons. I agree. I
mean, you guys hay it on Josh.

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I mean, before the Joms tired, we got that confessional from Chris,

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and Josh is one of the ones
that he's like. Chris is like

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physically, I'm afraid to go against
Josh, Yeah, because Joh just like

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six ft taller than him. Yeah. Well, this is one two that

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I don't like. Strength is all
that really matters in this game. And

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so Josh is uncoordinated and he's not
athletic and whatever, but you don't need

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any of that in this game.
You just fucking yank people and pull him

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and push him and you can win. I mean, you need it to

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a certain extent, because if you're
going to stand up, you have to

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be able to keep your balance.
And that's why Josh was on his knees

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with his arms around Chris, because
he knew the moment that he stood up,

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his ugliness would just take him out
like a raf on roller skates.

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Right. But yes, Corey too, I guess I didn't realize it,

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recognize it until this episode. He
looks enormous compared to Corey is huge.

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He is a fucking brick shit house
of a man this season. I mean,

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in comparison to all of the other
guys, all of them, Corey

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is massive. Yeah. And he's
not always been massive, right, that's

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not this is a new thing for
him, Like he's been strong and fig

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big, But I mean this is
like he was never Hunter when when they

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had the Young Bucks, Hunter was
always bigger than him, if I remember

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correctly, Hunter was always bigger in
him. Corey is right now rivaling like

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the johnnyct Evan, like west Royd
rage era. Yeah, just monstrous monstrous

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men. Yeah, he's huge.
Yeah. It surprised me when he's standing

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up against Fessie, I'm just like, holy shit, look at that fucking

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guy. It's I don't know,
and we've seen him for many, many

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years and I've never thought that about
him until now, But yeah, he

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looked massive in comparison to the rest
of them. Yea. I feel like

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in a previous episode someone mentioned that
Corey was the like, the biggest of

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the guys there, and I kind
of I heard the comment and was kind

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of like, Oh, no,
he's not like Fessie and Josh and Nah,

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he's those guys are totally bigger than
him. But seeing him like actually

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stand up next to him without a
shirt on any of them, Oh,

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Nope, that's true. Yeah,
absolutely true. Yep. With that,

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we're onto the women. The women
had the same basic strategy, but instead

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of Chris, they're focusing on Chanel
or Cassidy, so everybody is sort of

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trying to take Cassidy out. Cassidy
also putting up a really good fight here.

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Who knew she had an innner?
She mentioned she uh practices movie tire.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, you
mentioned a couple. She's very ground

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based, so it was very obvious. I was a little bit annoyed.

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I'm guessing that they are probably all
have time they can't do this, but

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was like when she said that,
I was like, Cassidy, like throw

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a triangle choke around someone, like
just like pass them out, like when

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it's throw five on one. I
just like, you know that they are

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not allowed to do that. The
moment that someone gets their arms around like

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that, you know that TCH is
immediately going to call them out and say

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ah that or immediately disqualify them.
That's not gonna happen. Come on,

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Oh well he didn't post a link. How dare you? Wolfee did post

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it on Patreon and the discord.
I don't know. We've seen some illiminations

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where they're down wrestling in the dirt
where we've seen like some ankles being twisted

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and like the leg locks so like, and I think Cassie could have yeah,

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but there's a difference between a leg
lock and someone doing a triangle hold

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on someone's neck and passing them out. I still said she should go.

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And I think that I've heard no
CBS is watering these things down. If

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it's a CBS show, they are
they're a little I think we risk averse

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the MTV. We definitely, I
remember I was talking about that. If

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you see a few episodes ago,
Yeah, it was the one where they

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were up in the air, the
one, No, it was another way.

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It was one of them. It
might have been the one where West

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went home, where they were up
there, and it just was that last

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week at the end. I feel
like it must. It was before that

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we were talking about how things were
one they felt watered down. Yeah,

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they felt not quite as physical as
previous seasons have been. Yep. Actually,

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now that I'm looking at my notes
again, I got ahead of myself.

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They focused on Tori first and then
Cassidy. So Tori was the first

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out. On her way out,
Tori says, if it were one on

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one, come on, we all
know I would have beaten everyone here.

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What do we think, guys,
I don't know about that. I think

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she could have beat a few of
them. I don't think that she could

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have taken all of them. I
don't think she would have come in last

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place as she did this time.
But there's like Desi is a brickshit house

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of a woman, and michaela is
too. Like Tori is not the biggest

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strongest this season like she usually is. I think she's used to being in

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that position, but I'm not sure
that she is now. Yeah, she

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doesn't. She's I think she's used
to being the scary one and she's not

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that. No, IM, she's
that because of her alliance, but she's

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not that personally. Yeah. Yeah, Desi, Chanel, and Michaela all

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look bigger and stronger than her,
frinkly, But I wish we would have

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seen the tournament style and then we
would have know. Like Zach said,

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I think a tournament side would have
been a better way to play this game.

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But what do I know. It
took all three of them to get

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Cassidy out, and Desi actually got
out in the process of getting Cassidy out,

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so yeah, they I mean,
Cassidy put up a great fight.

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And yeah, I did think it
was interesting they went for Toy first,

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since you know, we saw that
the Survivor like power Girls, had an

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alliance with her, so I think
they would be thinking at least like,

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Okay, we gotta get Chanelle first, then we could team up against Tory.

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But then, like a cat first, you get that cast first.

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But the fact that they went r
after tore, you know, I think

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that's very dangerous. I could have
like made Tori lose trust in them.

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Yeah, it doesn't seem to have
bothered her much. I don't know.

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I guess she figures if she's a
line of them, who cares who wins?

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You know, it's some bullshit.
We'll get into more of that later.

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Yeah, well comes down to Mikayla
versus Chanelle. It starts to rain

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and everything. Just when this competition
can't get any sex, he or here

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we go now it's raining. What
did you guys think of his last round

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that I read? It took over
thirty minutes in real time. It was

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intense. It was Yeah. I
love seeing them like do the different roles

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and flips to like switch position and
uh yeah, it definitely looked like yes,

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Sam, Yeah, look like some
straight out of the WrestleMania. I

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was gonna say, a w wolfie. It's like that, like to don't

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talk, don't talk about wrestling if
you don't know talking about Chris. But

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they were throwing out terms, Wolfe. Were those all real terms that they

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were throwing out? It was there
were like a shrimp, what was one?

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Clams? Was a scorpion chop?
A scorpion is a scorpion is a

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move when like you when you're on
a snowboard or skis and you hit the

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ground and you face plant in the
ground and then your feet come up behind

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you and smacking in the back of
the head. That's a scorpion and wrestling

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there is a scorpion death block in
the scorpion death drop. But yeah,

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but it was neither one of those. No, Sidy is a big fan

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of the clam chop, using that, yeah, we all know what the

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clam chop is. I didn't see
that in action, but Howison says,

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I'm not gonna lie. That was
shaking my head. Yes it was,

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Yes, it was. I was
a big fan of that, but Michaela

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wins and I don't know. I
wasn't surprised. You know, Chanelle is

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bigger, so I thought maybe Sanelle
would be able to overpower here, but

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Michaela pulled it out. But yet
again, another another episode, another challenge

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where Michelle or not Michelle, where
Chanelle talks about how she's an athlete and

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how she's so good at these different
things and that she's gonna make she's bigger

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than all the girls. She's gonna
beat their ass. And then I mean,

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she didn't shop the bed this time. But no. Unimpressive season really,

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and she's aligned with all these really
strong women and and that's helping her.

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But it's I, you know,
what is she bringing? It seems

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like everybody else's performing. And I'm
tired of her saying that she's so good

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at this stuff or that she's so
athletic and that she should be winning.

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She sounds like Bessy from a few
years ago. Yeah, I'm just I'm

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tired of her saying that and then
just not showing up. I don't know

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if it's accurate not, But when
she said that she was the heaviest woman

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left in the house, like,
I would have never guessed that she doesn't

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look that big to me, with
the with the muscle mass that woman has

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on her app they believe that I
would have she's more built than Desi is.

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See I guess, and see I
would have. I would have put

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Desi's wife. I would have been
like the most like muscle dense and heaviest.

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I think muscle muscle dense is probably
right, but Chanelle, I'm not

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sure hers, as they both have
like Chanelle has got some serious shoulders and

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arms. I feel like they both
look pretty dense muscle wise. I think

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Desi has like an inch on height, but she's more lean. Yeah,

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yeah, Desi's got more definition,
I think. Yeah, our guess what.

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That competition out of the way.
We are back at the house.

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We have Chanelle and Desi talking and
it's just the two of them, and

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they're sort of talking about how MICHAELA
wants to throw in Tory and kind of

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talking shit about this and kind of
talking shit about Michaela during this and again

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all just teamed up to throw her
out of the ring. Though. Yeah,

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well we're about to figure out why
they're sort of opposed this idea because

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as they're talking, Michaela actual it
comes stumbling into the room, which I

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fucking love it when this happens.
And it seems like we're getting this a

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lot this season, where like they're
talking shit about somebody and then that person

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walks in. It's awesome. Uh
And Michaela just sure enough, she's just

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like, yeah, I think I
think we should throw in Tori. So

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you know, the other girls were
right that Tori was on Michaela's mind,

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but they don't want to throw in
Tori because they don't want to have to

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face her in elimination. What do
you guys think? How stupid are they

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for this stupid idea decision that they
made here. I mean it's the same

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it's the same thing that they did
last week. Yeah, don't throw her

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in because then we're going to be
the ones who get picked. They're playing

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scared. And Chanelle even said,
like Shenly even said, like just lay

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low and stay chill and just make
it to the final. But if you

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make it to the final of people
who can beat you, what, who

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cares? Who cares about making it
the final? Yeah? And with the

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with the showing that Chanelle has had, like you should want to get Tori

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out now, Yeah, because with
your showing, Tori is gonna beat you.

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Yep. And one of those women, if they want to get Tor

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out, it is true, one
of those women is probably gonna have to

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do it. If they throw in
Tori versus Michelle, Tory is probably coming

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back. So they're gonna have to
be if they want to win this game,

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they're gonna have to take They're probably
gonna take her out, but they

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decide not to, which is really
stupid. I mean, it's a choice.

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Yeah, So at the end of
the day, they just say Tori

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is intimidating, and then they made
this deal with Tori that they're not gonna

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focus on each other. Yeah,
but how long does this deal? Is

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this deal gonna last? Right,
I mean just forever now, like they're

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because it's always seemed to me that
those three are in the secret Garden or

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00:27:41,319 --> 00:27:45,920
whatever. And Tori is sort of
like, no, no, it's stupid

405
00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:48,160
on the periphery out here, Like
they have this agreement, but they're not

406
00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:52,920
an alliance. But if this agreement
lasts until the end of the season,

407
00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:56,519
it is an alliance. Right,
It's the same exact fucking thing. Yeah,

408
00:27:56,599 --> 00:27:57,799
yeah, that was you know,
when Toy made the deal, that

409
00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:00,400
was what she said. She's like, I want to run the final with

410
00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:03,480
these three women, so at least
in Tory is mine. This is like,

411
00:28:03,799 --> 00:28:07,839
this is who we're all running with
at the end. Yeah, Well

412
00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:11,440
for Tori, that's not so bad
because I do think Tori, just because

413
00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:17,480
of her Finals experience, she's probably
gonna win. Well, MICHAELA, Michael

414
00:28:17,559 --> 00:28:22,599
is kind of into killing it,
but we'll see. All right. Well,

415
00:28:22,599 --> 00:28:32,000
with that, we are into the
nominations. Corey and michaela Is sit

416
00:28:32,039 --> 00:28:34,440
down to talk about who they're going
to nominate, and now we start the

417
00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:41,240
most frustrating conversation I've had to witness
on television. Michaela, of course wants

418
00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:44,200
to throw in Tory. Corey,
of course is having none of that.

419
00:28:44,319 --> 00:28:48,599
It's kind of non negotiable for Corey. He says, no fucking way.

420
00:28:48,759 --> 00:28:52,079
Corey is so fucking stupid in us. Yeah. I mean they both they

421
00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:56,240
kind of both are, and they're
not communicating well, and it's it was

422
00:28:56,279 --> 00:29:02,319
frustrating to watch, in my opinion, Cory's find say Banana's name earlier this

423
00:29:02,319 --> 00:29:03,400
season, and all of a sudden, he's like, Nope, can't do

424
00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:07,799
it. Like Corey, now is
the time to do it. I guess

425
00:29:07,839 --> 00:29:11,440
it's time to throw him in.
Yeah, yep. In terms of his

426
00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:15,559
strategy, all he says is that
I'm going for people I feel less connected

427
00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:19,680
to. And then Michaela shoots back
right away. She says, well,

428
00:29:19,799 --> 00:29:26,119
then you're not thinking strategically, which
is true. But also Corey can kind

429
00:29:26,119 --> 00:29:30,839
of do what he wants, can
do what he wants. He's also played

430
00:29:30,839 --> 00:29:33,279
this game before and knows that,
Like, you know, alliances are a

431
00:29:33,279 --> 00:29:37,960
big thing, and if you shit
on your alliance then you're kind of fucked.

432
00:29:37,559 --> 00:29:45,480
Yeah, but yeah, I don't
know. Finally, but I think,

433
00:29:45,519 --> 00:29:48,960
you know, we got talked,
you know, in the past about

434
00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:52,799
kind of you know, this game
you got to play for the long term.

435
00:29:52,799 --> 00:29:55,759
So I'm sure quite in there looking
at like, what's gonna hurt me

436
00:29:55,839 --> 00:30:00,720
negatively over the next decade of my
career, throwing him bananas in Tyler whom

437
00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:03,000
I might never see again. Yeah, he is, for sure. He's

438
00:30:03,039 --> 00:30:08,680
thinking that he's been working working with
bananas so far and he still doesn't want

439
00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:11,039
a final, so it's not doing
him that much. Kid. Yeah,

440
00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:15,559
I think Corey, if he's gonna
win, he's gotta go scorched Earth on

441
00:30:15,559 --> 00:30:18,960
one season and just fucking take everybody
out they can beat him in a final,

442
00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:22,640
because that's yeah, he keeps making
this mistake of going to the final

443
00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:26,880
people who are going to beat him. Honestly, he kind he kind of

444
00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:32,359
reminds me of Leroy. He like
he becomes friends with everybody, but can't

445
00:30:32,359 --> 00:30:34,759
seem to pull that trigger to get
the people that are going to beat him

446
00:30:34,799 --> 00:30:38,119
in a final out of the house. Well, and they both have a

447
00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:41,359
glaring weakness in their game. For
Leroy it was swimming and for Corey it's

448
00:30:41,359 --> 00:30:45,079
puzzles, and you have to have
a super strong partner if you're gonna win,

449
00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:48,720
because Corey can't win a final by
himself. He just cannot do it

450
00:30:48,759 --> 00:30:53,079
with his puzzle skills. So puzzles
are such a massive part not its Yeah,

451
00:30:53,319 --> 00:30:59,000
yes, he's screwed. There's speaking
of why is there so many goddamn

452
00:30:59,119 --> 00:31:03,960
veterans left? Everybody fucking gave up
and stopped throwing veterans in That stupid hat

453
00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:07,759
trick really solved that problem for the
vets, didn't it. It was a

454
00:31:07,799 --> 00:31:14,920
really stupid perfect the women did.
Tori's the only real VET left. I

455
00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:17,759
mean, if you want to count
Michelle too, fine, but yeah,

456
00:31:17,839 --> 00:31:18,720
yeah, but I mean for the
women, they only started out with two

457
00:31:18,799 --> 00:31:27,240
Vets. They had Tory and Amanda
and john Ah. I forgot about john

458
00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:30,240
A two. I forgot she was
even on this season. I did too,

459
00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:34,359
because there's three piece there. Yes, yep, there totally was because

460
00:31:36,079 --> 00:31:40,559
she was there. I guess the
only VET men left her Corey and Bananas,

461
00:31:41,759 --> 00:31:45,599
yes, two and one. But
at the same time, Josh,

462
00:31:47,079 --> 00:31:49,119
Yeah, Bessie and Josh have been
playing with him yea, and Michelle.

463
00:31:49,279 --> 00:31:53,960
You know, Michelle was on Banana's
podcaster of this season. They confirmed that

464
00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:56,440
they had you know, she had
an alliance with all the vets going in,

465
00:31:56,599 --> 00:32:01,400
so yeah, but she started out
the game with She's what Survivor.

466
00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:07,559
She started out the game with the
Survivor team and was very on the Survivor

467
00:32:07,599 --> 00:32:10,240
team, and then after they got
john A out, then she kind of

468
00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:16,359
started going more towards the Bats.
Yeah, she's been floating in the middle,

469
00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:20,720
and tonight is when she finally makes
her stand as to what team she's

470
00:32:20,759 --> 00:32:27,079
on. She's real obvious. Yeah. Well, at the end of this

471
00:32:27,119 --> 00:32:32,839
nomination session, Michaela knows that Corey
will not ever compromise on Tory, so

472
00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:37,559
Michaela decides to just cut her losses
go with the easy picks. They end

473
00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:42,599
up with Cassidy and Tyler. I
don't know, was this the right plan

474
00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:45,079
for Michaela to just back off and
let this happen, or should she have

475
00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:50,240
fought harder or should they made a
different agreement. I would have fought harder.

476
00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:52,079
I would have been like, look, I'm willing to go into elimination.

477
00:32:52,119 --> 00:32:55,440
Are you willing to go into elimination? Corey? Yeah, he would

478
00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:59,119
have caved at something. Yeah,
he would have, And I think for

479
00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:02,359
Michaela, that's I think Michaela versus
Tori, and any elimination is a is

480
00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:08,240
a toss up. I mean,
MICHAELA stands a chance in anything awesome elimination

481
00:33:08,319 --> 00:33:13,680
to see me too. Yeah,
but so I guess MICHAELA is playing a

482
00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:15,680
little scared too. She had that
option, I guess. I mean,

483
00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:17,359
I guess we don't know what happens
in a stalemate, but that's what we

484
00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:23,839
assume, all right. So it's
Cassidy and it's Tyler. Are the nominated

485
00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:30,759
people? Yeah, and Corey runs
right over to Tori to tell her that

486
00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:35,720
MICHAELA threw her name out. So
Tori is not happy. She thinks they

487
00:33:35,759 --> 00:33:39,400
had this agreement. Tori is feeling
betrayed even though it didn't happen, even

488
00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:43,920
though MICHAELA backed off of this.
So I guess what all of that,

489
00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:47,400
Well, we got our protect Tori
bullshit blew up in their faces anyway.

490
00:33:49,279 --> 00:33:52,559
Yeah, I mean this is all
It's all really stupid stuff. I don't

491
00:33:52,559 --> 00:33:58,599
know. All right, Well,
it's party night, guys. I feel

492
00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:00,200
like we haven't seen one of these
party nights in the house for a while.

493
00:34:00,319 --> 00:34:02,440
I was kind of into this,
Yeah, I kind of like this.

494
00:34:02,599 --> 00:34:07,240
I was very into this. Tim. Yeah, I wonder why.

495
00:34:07,319 --> 00:34:10,480
I wonder why would you like to
tell us why, Zachy Bananas? Because

496
00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:17,000
we had a Byshell come out with
her and Kassby making out gain lap dances.

497
00:34:19,199 --> 00:34:22,320
It was amazing. Byshell is one
of those that works when you're reading

498
00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:24,719
it. When you say it,
it sounds really stupid. It doesn't work

499
00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:30,559
quite as well, you know.
But have you guys in the non Survivor

500
00:34:30,599 --> 00:34:32,400
fans of the group, have you
heard of this Byshell thing? No?

501
00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:37,639
No, I didn't even know she
was bisexual, Zach, do you know

502
00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:40,239
the whole history of this Byshell thing? Is she actually bisexual? Or is

503
00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:43,559
this just when I'm drunk I like
to make out with women. I think

504
00:34:43,559 --> 00:34:45,079
it's more of a just when I'm
drunk I like to make out women thing.

505
00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:51,840
I think she actually is, I
mean apparently so. So I read

506
00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:53,880
this. This is on the Survivor
subredit because they were there's some crossover obviously,

507
00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:57,719
so they were talking about it.
But apparently when Winners at War came

508
00:34:57,719 --> 00:35:00,679
out, So Winners at War was
Michelle's second Survivorsyes, one of the spoiler

509
00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:06,079
accounts said that Michelle came out as
bisexual on Winners at War and so for

510
00:35:06,159 --> 00:35:08,360
like months Survivors fans were talking about
that Michelle is bisexual, and then you

511
00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:12,159
watched the show and she never actually
came out. She never said anything about

512
00:35:12,199 --> 00:35:15,400
it and has never spoken about it
publicly. It's not you know, so

513
00:35:15,559 --> 00:35:20,599
Survivor fans call her Bychell, but
nobody else has ever known that this was

514
00:35:20,639 --> 00:35:24,320
even an even a thing that was
associated with her. But then Laurel threw

515
00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:30,599
some shade at Michelle this week on
social media, just throw it and said

516
00:35:30,639 --> 00:35:32,519
something like, oh, I got
drunk with Michelle and she wanted to make

517
00:35:32,519 --> 00:35:36,519
out with me. And Michelle just
said like, yeah, I did,

518
00:35:36,559 --> 00:35:39,880
I shot my shot, you know
whatever, I wanted to like just completely

519
00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:43,639
dismissed it and you know, owned
it. And then we see this on

520
00:35:43,639 --> 00:35:46,320
TV and it's pretty well confirmed now
that yes, she's she's likely bisexual,

521
00:35:47,079 --> 00:35:52,079
but hasn't making out with women when
you're drunk doesn't mean that you're bisexual because

522
00:35:52,119 --> 00:35:57,679
I have done that many a time
and I am not by Yeah, so

523
00:35:57,960 --> 00:35:59,960
I was gonna say, I can
see Michelle making out with a woman.

524
00:36:00,079 --> 00:36:02,639
I don't know if we're going to
see michellebe like the next Nannie proposing to

525
00:36:02,679 --> 00:36:07,159
a woman and like being like this
is my future. I think I agree

526
00:36:07,199 --> 00:36:09,760
with that too. I don't think
she takes it super seriously, but she

527
00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:14,880
calls herself by Shell now on social
media, and she's just sort of owning

528
00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:19,039
this persona and then just not really
caring about it, which is maybe the

529
00:36:19,039 --> 00:36:22,519
best way to deal with this.
But anyway, so, yes, you

530
00:36:22,519 --> 00:36:27,280
can call her by Shell if you
went to I don't know if Cassidy is

531
00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:30,000
though. Cassidy seems one of these
just get drunk and make out with women

532
00:36:30,079 --> 00:36:34,840
type of types. Yeah, yeah, I mean there's a reason for it.

533
00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:39,360
Like women, women getting drunk and
making out with other women much less

534
00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:45,079
likely to than have to deal with
a dude. If you get drunk and

535
00:36:45,079 --> 00:36:46,719
make out with a dude, you
almost always have to deal with this dude

536
00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:50,320
coming up and being like, oh, so this is like a we're gonna

537
00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:52,000
we're gonna really make out now like
this, we're gonna continue this all night.

538
00:36:52,519 --> 00:36:57,119
I can make out with a woman
they know the business, thirty second

539
00:36:57,159 --> 00:37:00,599
thing, it was fun, whatever, and then you can wander away without

540
00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:07,519
feeling like you're going to have feeling
threatened afterwards. Wolfie, one time,

541
00:37:07,519 --> 00:37:08,800
it spent a whole evening trying to
make out with me. It was embarrassing

542
00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:13,719
for him. I believe we made
out with each other. Thank you very

543
00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:20,960
much. This two thousand and two
New Year's Eve. This is why you

544
00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:23,119
guys are divorced. It was like
a fucking ways back. I don't know

545
00:37:23,119 --> 00:37:27,079
if she's still in the room,
but Allison will be coming to our finale

546
00:37:27,119 --> 00:37:30,519
party. So Carlin's drinking. Allison, you might get lucky. Oh and

547
00:37:30,599 --> 00:37:36,039
wolf Wolfe, maybe you will too, Me and you Buddy part two.

548
00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:39,679
No, I think it's more likely
that Tim and Wolfie will make out.

549
00:37:39,679 --> 00:37:45,320
But but I will make out with
someone that I just met and we've done

550
00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:49,679
it before. Why not? Why
not? To be fair listeners, if

551
00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:52,000
this happens, I will make sure
Zach and I will both make sure to

552
00:37:52,079 --> 00:37:55,760
get video and posted all over the
social media. Just well, you know,

553
00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:59,199
please. I was going to mention, like, half of this problem

554
00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:01,440
is Tim's actually their old friend,
the one, the one that looks like

555
00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:05,880
you, Carlin, the one that
looks like you. It's like, let's

556
00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:08,480
take a picture of you guys kissing, and so then like, okay,

557
00:38:08,559 --> 00:38:13,840
and then we would like kiss and
she'd be like it didn't work, do

558
00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:16,480
it again? And she did that
five times, and we were so drunk

559
00:38:16,599 --> 00:38:22,800
we didn't catch on. Liar,
Zach, You're gonna be the suber one

560
00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:24,960
of this group, so you know
what to do. Now, I know

561
00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:30,239
what to do. Please please don't
do that, Please don't do that.

562
00:38:31,079 --> 00:38:35,760
Unfortunately, I don't think Sidney's gonna
be there, so well, no,

563
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:45,159
st her daughter's gonna just moved.
Arizona's gonna be back, and she's leaving

564
00:38:45,199 --> 00:38:52,159
that day. So that's a good
reason to not I told her that was

565
00:38:52,199 --> 00:38:57,719
way more important than our dumb bullshit. Hey do non parents. I'm just

566
00:38:57,760 --> 00:39:00,559
like, oh, totally. You
always pick your daughter please. All right.

567
00:39:00,599 --> 00:39:05,840
So another thing that happens at this
party. The boys go outside minus

568
00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:08,159
Chris, and they all just basically
say, like, we gotta go Chris

569
00:39:08,159 --> 00:39:10,840
again, right, like we have
to, this is what we have to

570
00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:13,880
do, And they all kind of
agree that, yes, of course all

571
00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:15,679
the men are going to throw their
votes on Chris. This makes it so

572
00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:22,599
boring, No shit, it does
make it really boring. But I agree

573
00:39:22,639 --> 00:39:25,840
with them, like Chris is showing
up this season strategic. I think he

574
00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:30,000
has a serious chance of beating all
of them. Yeah, strategically, this

575
00:39:30,079 --> 00:39:32,320
is the move that makes sense.
For those remaining men, of course,

576
00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:35,760
but you know, as the guy
that loves Chris, I don't want them

577
00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:40,239
to do this. And this we
also get in the kitchen there. Cassidy

578
00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:44,039
approaches Michaela and says, like,
hey, I get it, you had

579
00:39:44,039 --> 00:39:45,880
to nominate me. That's I understand
that, but can you just do me

580
00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:51,119
a favor and not like super promote
this being a girl's day, Like,

581
00:39:51,199 --> 00:39:52,880
let's just kind of like let the
chips fall where they may, and you

582
00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:55,159
know, don't push this too hard. Let's just, you know, whatever,

583
00:39:55,199 --> 00:40:00,360
cut me a little slack here.
Michaela basically says, fuck no,

584
00:40:00,599 --> 00:40:04,800
I'm gonna try everything I can do
to make it a girl's day, and

585
00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:10,199
then kind of explains her thinking very
logically but sort of heartlessly to Cassidy,

586
00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:15,119
and then Cassidy ends up saying that
Michaela has no emotions. What did you

587
00:40:15,159 --> 00:40:22,760
guys take away from this whole fight
conversation thing? Cassidy didn't want to go

588
00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:30,440
in again and then Michaela doesn't have
any emotions? Is that really what you

589
00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:34,199
think? Zach Evan ends. I
mean, that was something that I fired

590
00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:37,760
call correctly was discussed about her own
survivors, that she was very game body

591
00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:43,000
and was very much like okay,
like I gotta do ABC, and like

592
00:40:43,599 --> 00:40:45,239
I don't care who I heard along
the way. I think the most emotion

593
00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:50,159
we saw from her is when the
when Jay voted for out. Yeah,

594
00:40:50,199 --> 00:40:53,280
she got that super violent turnaround back. That's great. Yeah, Tim,

595
00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:58,079
you mentioned a few a few episodes
ago when I like, because I again,

596
00:40:58,639 --> 00:41:00,320
Michaela is still not my favorite person. I like for more of this

597
00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:04,920
episode. She does have a very
flat effect, but she also I mean,

598
00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:08,760
like was said in this episode,
she plays this game entirely logically,

599
00:41:09,119 --> 00:41:15,199
which I mean can definitely be to
your advantage. But part of the reason

600
00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:17,159
why we love this game is because
of the emotional side of it, because

601
00:41:17,199 --> 00:41:22,679
these people get so wrapped up in
this stuff and it's just it's that's what

602
00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:25,360
brings the drama and the bullshit that
we all love. Yeah, I like

603
00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:30,000
it. Sorry ahead, go ahead. Oh, I was gonna say I

604
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:35,760
like that Michaela is She's extremely honest
and to the point, and she does

605
00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:38,800
not sugarcoat anything. And I think
I think that Cassidy would have done fine

606
00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:44,119
in this conversation with a little sugarcoating. If Michaela would have just been like,

607
00:41:44,199 --> 00:41:46,119
listen, I like you as a
human. I don't like that we

608
00:41:46,159 --> 00:41:49,199
have to vote each other out of
the game, but this is what the

609
00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:52,440
game is, and I like you
and respect you. But it's it's just

610
00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:53,800
part of the thing, and I
hope it can be friends later, you

611
00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:58,039
know, I kind of soften it
a little bit. I don't think Michaela

612
00:41:58,079 --> 00:42:00,199
softens things. I think she's like, agree, getting you out is the

613
00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:02,360
right move. I'm going to try
to get you out, and that's the

614
00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:07,000
end of this conversation, and it's
I don't know, a little softness is

615
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:15,679
maybe good here occasionally, yep,
I agree in a situation Allison says,

616
00:42:15,679 --> 00:42:17,119
I'm a newbie here, but at
this point in the game, don't you

617
00:42:17,159 --> 00:42:22,880
need to be strategic? Yes,
I think Michaela is getting an unnecessary amount

618
00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:27,760
of shit. She's being extremely strategic, and some people are taking that wrong.

619
00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:30,280
I think, yeah. I think
they're just also used to playing this

620
00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:37,079
game with their emotions at the forefront. I think it depends that when you

621
00:42:37,119 --> 00:42:39,039
look at your competition, if you
feel like you could beat all of them

622
00:42:39,039 --> 00:42:42,880
in the final, you don't have
to be a strategic if you're telling that's

623
00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:45,880
look at them like I can't beat
these half of the people the now.

624
00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:50,400
You play much more strategic game to
get rid of those half. Yeah,

625
00:42:50,559 --> 00:42:52,519
And a part of me wonders,
like, okay, because when Kayla has

626
00:42:52,519 --> 00:42:55,480
someone, we've seen her win two
in her own now, like I understand

627
00:42:55,480 --> 00:43:00,199
what's each apartment is. Like I
feel like michaela could walk into a final

628
00:43:00,199 --> 00:43:02,360
against any of these women and like
have a fighting chance. Like I don't

629
00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:07,840
feel like there's anyone that she needs
to get out to win. I kind

630
00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:10,239
of agree in a way, she's
like overplaying this a little bit. I'm

631
00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:13,840
not sure she needs to try as
hard as she is. She can just

632
00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:19,639
kick their asses. Uh, Carlin, you want to answer Kay's question in

633
00:43:19,679 --> 00:43:22,119
the chat room? Oh? What
what's case? Question? Very important?

634
00:43:22,119 --> 00:43:24,840
I got here, I got it
late. But Carlin, did you enjoy

635
00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:31,639
shirtless Josh? We answered this question
last week? I feel like, so,

636
00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:37,920
okay, you made you. I
think you missed this Josh Josh's body

637
00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:42,159
to completely objectify them all. Josh's
body definitely looks better than Fassey's now,

638
00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:50,159
but I still don't find either of
them attractive. Women are such like better

639
00:43:50,199 --> 00:43:52,360
creatures than men, right, we
could just be attracted to who No,

640
00:43:52,519 --> 00:43:57,559
we just it's it's one of those
like and I'm sure many women are like

641
00:43:57,559 --> 00:44:00,280
this. I'm sure many men are
like this too. It's when your personality

642
00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:08,639
taints who you are, all of
it, she said. I think I

643
00:44:08,679 --> 00:44:12,679
think men are different. Men can
be like, that's a horrible woman.

644
00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:17,800
She's awful and just so hot.
But look at that rack. Yes you

645
00:44:20,039 --> 00:44:22,679
can do that, Carlin. Have
you not seen him and I's reaction to

646
00:44:22,679 --> 00:44:28,239
when Amanda's on the screen. I
know, the literal devil, but she's

647
00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:32,199
smoking, she's very attractive. I
don't find her attractive at all. Yeah,

648
00:44:32,480 --> 00:44:35,719
then you're an idiot. God damn
you hear that. My kids are

649
00:44:35,719 --> 00:44:37,480
doing? What are your kids doing? I don't know at your house.

650
00:44:37,639 --> 00:44:42,480
Yes, I'm gonna mute for a
second and just yell very loudly at them

651
00:44:42,519 --> 00:44:47,360
to cut it out. We just
one second, do it? God damn

652
00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:52,800
it. Stop at there. I
really wanted that mute, Like, I

653
00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:58,000
don't know what they're doing, dragging
something across the ground or something that's crazy?

654
00:44:58,400 --> 00:45:00,440
Did they kill someone up served?
I don't know. It's quiet now.

655
00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:07,920
I don't know what that was.
Okay, so let me see where

656
00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:13,159
I'm at in my notes here.
Oh, Chris and Michaela talk. Michaela

657
00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:15,559
is trying to kind of soften up
Chris and trying to get Chris on her

658
00:45:15,639 --> 00:45:20,360
side because Michaela feels like she needs
a few more people that are sort of

659
00:45:20,599 --> 00:45:25,280
in her side. Chris is floating
all around without an alliance, and Michaela

660
00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:28,840
says like, hey, here's the
deal. We can align together. But

661
00:45:29,119 --> 00:45:30,280
I just want you to try to
make this a girl's day. I want

662
00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:36,800
you to vote for Tori. And
Chris is just like, okay, no

663
00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:39,119
problem, we'll do it. Yeah. I mean, he doesn't want to

664
00:45:39,119 --> 00:45:40,960
go in. You tell me you
want it to be a girl's day,

665
00:45:42,039 --> 00:45:44,400
and he's absolutely gonna say okay,
cool, Yeah, let's be let's do

666
00:45:44,440 --> 00:45:46,039
a girl's day. This had to
be the best news Chris got all day,

667
00:45:46,159 --> 00:45:50,239
right, He's just sitting there working
out Michaela. Michaela comes walking out,

668
00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:51,719
Hey, let's try to make this
a girl's day. He's like,

669
00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:55,679
oh yeah, fuck, okay,
yeah sure, So he says okay,

670
00:45:57,159 --> 00:46:02,679
and then Michelle goes and she he
talks to the secret garden in their bedroom.

671
00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:07,320
They bring Michelle in because they need
her number to vote for Tori.

672
00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:10,559
So in their perfect World. They've
got Desi, Chanel, Michelle, and

673
00:46:10,639 --> 00:46:15,719
Chris all voting for Tori. That's
four votes. That's enough to maybe get

674
00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:17,960
Tori thrown in. Even though it
didn't work to nominate her, it still

675
00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:22,079
could get her thrown in. Hardy
felt like, I don't know what you

676
00:46:22,119 --> 00:46:25,400
guys saw on this is I thought
Christia voted for like a man, vote

677
00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:29,599
for Fessi or someone like. He's
still gonna have the same amount of votes

678
00:46:29,639 --> 00:46:31,199
against him, but so it's still
the same odds that he goes in or

679
00:46:31,239 --> 00:46:36,159
not. But also if he can
get like two men in there to like

680
00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:38,960
take out one of his competitions,
it benefits him. That is a good

681
00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:45,599
point. Yeah, I think he's
in a anybody but me phase of the

682
00:46:45,639 --> 00:46:50,719
game, so he's probably not even
thinking that. He said it is confessionally

683
00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:52,320
said like if anybody comes up to
me and tells me to vote a certain

684
00:46:52,320 --> 00:46:55,639
way, all that's how I'll vote. So I think MICHAELA is just maybe

685
00:46:55,679 --> 00:47:00,000
the only one that approached him.
Yeah, I think he would have voted

686
00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:04,000
for FESSI. I think he would
have voted whoever Yea if anybody came up

687
00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:06,280
and said, vote for somebody who's
not you. He would have said,

688
00:47:06,280 --> 00:47:08,000
Okay, yeah, it's not great
with that. Matthew through like one rug

689
00:47:08,079 --> 00:47:14,199
vote on Festi and then Fessi went
in, that'd be cool, that'd be

690
00:47:14,199 --> 00:47:17,719
great. Well, we're under the
secret vote and we actually get more of

691
00:47:17,719 --> 00:47:22,280
the secret vote than we normally do. It's just because we just have less

692
00:47:22,280 --> 00:47:27,400
players now. I think that's true. And it was pretty fast. It

693
00:47:27,480 --> 00:47:29,679
was like, I wish they would
have done this all season. They don't

694
00:47:29,679 --> 00:47:31,559
need to have five minutes on everybody. It's just Tori says it's you,

695
00:47:31,719 --> 00:47:36,960
Chris, and then Cass says it's
you Chris and whatever. So we still

696
00:47:37,039 --> 00:47:40,440
don't know who I'm going to vote
for. The only person that did that

697
00:47:40,519 --> 00:47:45,960
is Michelle, and she's there like
talking herself through the decision and who to

698
00:47:45,039 --> 00:47:50,239
vote for and whatever. We'll get
to her decision after the elimination because I

699
00:47:50,280 --> 00:47:52,960
want to hear everybody's insights onto this. But we're not quite there yet.

700
00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:58,039
But with the eliminator, with the
secret vote out of the way, it's

701
00:47:58,039 --> 00:48:07,480
time for the elimination. Yes,
Tis reveals the numbers. Tory comes up

702
00:48:07,519 --> 00:48:10,360
with three votes, so the secret
gardens pissed because they were counting on four,

703
00:48:13,159 --> 00:48:15,880
Chanelle comes up with one vote.
I assume that's Tyler, right,

704
00:48:16,079 --> 00:48:20,239
we didn't see that vote cast,
But who else could that be? Man,

705
00:48:20,400 --> 00:48:22,800
let me go, look, I
didn't check beforehand. Yeah, check

706
00:48:22,840 --> 00:48:27,320
that one out. I think that
Cassidy went up to Tyler and said,

707
00:48:27,320 --> 00:48:29,760
hey, will you please just vote
for Chanelle if you're going to vote for

708
00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:32,519
a woman, And Tyler was like, guessure, that's what I would suspect

709
00:48:32,599 --> 00:48:39,360
happened here, because you know he
didn't vote for Chris. Yeah, the

710
00:48:39,400 --> 00:48:43,280
rest of the people voted for Chris. So that was six, So four

711
00:48:43,679 --> 00:48:46,639
not Chris votes six Chris. Yeah, it was Tyler the vote for Chanelle.

712
00:48:47,840 --> 00:48:52,440
Yeah. So this is when we
find out Michelle actually voted for Chris.

713
00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:57,760
Even though the Secret Garden approached her, she had her inroad into the

714
00:48:57,800 --> 00:49:01,159
Secret Garden here. She decided to
sigh with the vets and go Chris,

715
00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:06,119
good move, bad move. What
do you guys think great move would be

716
00:49:06,199 --> 00:49:12,159
a flip flopper Michell? Jesus,
I think it's great. She's gonna have

717
00:49:12,199 --> 00:49:17,480
to now great move wise, because
I think, you know, if her

718
00:49:17,519 --> 00:49:22,440
goal is to win a season,
like I think now going forward, in

719
00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:24,280
all future seasons, she's gonna have
Bananas having her back, She's gonna have

720
00:49:24,280 --> 00:49:28,239
Tory, And I think the thing
is like, once you get that good

721
00:49:28,280 --> 00:49:30,920
group of people that will take you
to the end. So you're just gonna

722
00:49:30,920 --> 00:49:34,880
focus on like training, getting in
like Corey shape or Josh shape to where

723
00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:37,639
like Michelle has the puzzle skills,
get in great running shape, and then

724
00:49:37,679 --> 00:49:42,400
she'll get carried to final season after
season and she just has to outrun everyone.

725
00:49:45,559 --> 00:49:50,280
I mean, she does now have
an alliance that knows that she's with

726
00:49:50,320 --> 00:49:53,760
them, But if she if they
have another season that has a bunch of

727
00:49:53,800 --> 00:49:59,639
Survivor people on it, is she
going to play the game again where she

728
00:50:00,039 --> 00:50:04,559
plays with Survivor until it no longer
benefits her and then continues to play with

729
00:50:04,599 --> 00:50:08,599
the Vets. I think at some
point she'll be she'll not be Survivor anymore

730
00:50:08,840 --> 00:50:12,360
and she'll be challenged. She'll be
a VET. Yeah, I definitely,

731
00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:16,079
Yeah. I mean this might be
that that time. Yeah, because really

732
00:50:16,159 --> 00:50:19,519
I think I mean, Zach,
I think you're right for a few If

733
00:50:19,519 --> 00:50:22,360
she's taking into future seasons into account, I think she made the right move.

734
00:50:22,719 --> 00:50:24,280
If she's only talking about this season, I don't think she did because

735
00:50:24,280 --> 00:50:29,719
now she's at the bottom of a
bigger alliance, so at the bottom of

736
00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:34,639
two well yeah, the bottom of
the bigger alliance, but floating. Otherwise,

737
00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:37,039
she was going to be at the
bottom of either alliance. But better

738
00:50:37,079 --> 00:50:38,920
to be at the alliance. Better
to be at the bottom of a four

739
00:50:38,960 --> 00:50:45,519
personal alliance than a seven personal alliance, you know. Yeah, in my

740
00:50:45,599 --> 00:50:49,400
opinion. For Michelle's part, she
says that she wanted to keep Cassidy around

741
00:50:49,400 --> 00:50:52,360
because she's the only one that she's
confident that she could beat in a in

742
00:50:52,360 --> 00:50:54,400
a final. So she didn't want
this to be a girl's day because she

743
00:50:54,400 --> 00:50:59,639
wants Cassidy to stick around. Uh, that makes sense. I guess.

744
00:50:59,679 --> 00:51:02,480
I don't know. Sure, maybe, yeah, maybe, I guess.

745
00:51:02,559 --> 00:51:05,679
I don't know. Do we think
Michelle is going to be that good in

746
00:51:05,679 --> 00:51:09,039
the final? I feel like we
don't haven't seen her perform much right,

747
00:51:09,199 --> 00:51:14,719
For as many seasons as we've seen
her on, she's not gotten far and

748
00:51:14,800 --> 00:51:15,800
not gotten close to a final.
Yeah, I don't know. Yeah,

749
00:51:15,800 --> 00:51:17,960
I'm not sure, like what her
skill set is. If you're like,

750
00:51:19,000 --> 00:51:22,480
hey, spend the next forty eight
hours running up a hill, you know.

751
00:51:23,840 --> 00:51:25,920
I hope we get to see it. I'm very curious about that.

752
00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:29,599
I definitely think you know, from
Survivor and always seen on the show.

753
00:51:29,639 --> 00:51:31,480
I think she has the puzzle skills, so I think as long she has

754
00:51:31,599 --> 00:51:37,159
endurance, I think she could be
a real competitor in the final. Yeah,

755
00:51:37,239 --> 00:51:43,480
I do too. I think she's
got the potential for sure. All

756
00:51:43,559 --> 00:51:45,199
right, Well, with that,
heads up, more of more of the

757
00:51:45,280 --> 00:51:49,519
ladies for the girls we can have
showed up. So if it starts getting

758
00:51:49,559 --> 00:51:52,480
loud in the background, for me, let me now that's a mute and

759
00:51:52,559 --> 00:51:58,519
yell at them just like I just
did. So TJ comes out, he

760
00:51:58,559 --> 00:52:04,000
flushes that toilet. The poop that
comes out this time around is Chris yet

761
00:52:04,199 --> 00:52:09,679
again. Guys, his fourth elimination
this season, third elimination in a row.

762
00:52:09,760 --> 00:52:13,599
Can you imagine having to just do
this three fucking times in a row?

763
00:52:14,639 --> 00:52:19,360
Crazy? I mean, he's getting
up there in the number of elimination

764
00:52:19,400 --> 00:52:22,519
wins. Now, he's proven himself
over and over and over again. If

765
00:52:22,519 --> 00:52:28,519
he continues like this in future seasons, I mean he's a real contender for

766
00:52:28,559 --> 00:52:34,000
that to be that trophy holder.
He reminds me of the Challenge greats that

767
00:52:34,039 --> 00:52:37,440
are just so adaptable. It kind
of doesn't matter the game, he fucking

768
00:52:37,480 --> 00:52:40,519
figures it out. Like in real
time. You see the gears turning and

769
00:52:40,559 --> 00:52:44,800
he just sort of figures it out. It's crazy, and that's really what

770
00:52:44,840 --> 00:52:47,480
you need to be at all time
challenge best. You know. Yeah,

771
00:52:47,480 --> 00:52:51,519
he needs to get better on his
political and social games. But yeah,

772
00:52:51,599 --> 00:52:53,880
he's doing well. But even if
his is necessarily that bad, I think

773
00:52:53,880 --> 00:52:59,800
it's just the fact that he's a
rookie that's into Minority Alliance. Like,

774
00:52:59,840 --> 00:53:02,000
I don't think anyone dislikes him.
I think if he does a couple more

775
00:53:02,039 --> 00:53:07,800
seasons, he'll be like naturally ingrained
into the Veterans Alliance and like be in

776
00:53:07,800 --> 00:53:12,960
a great spot socially and strategically.
Yeah. I think he made some missteps

777
00:53:12,960 --> 00:53:15,440
this season though, when he was
going around and telling every group of people

778
00:53:15,519 --> 00:53:20,480
somebody different to vote for, and
well, on that same episode, that

779
00:53:20,599 --> 00:53:23,559
same episode, Michelle Ard Michaela called
him out for you know, no one

780
00:53:23,599 --> 00:53:27,639
really knows where you stand. I'm
trying to figure it out. You think,

781
00:53:28,519 --> 00:53:30,880
Yeah, he definitely made some missteps. He needs to figure out his

782
00:53:30,960 --> 00:53:32,480
political and social game. But if
he can get that figured out, yeah,

783
00:53:32,519 --> 00:53:36,840
for sure, I totally I fully
get why everybody's ganging up on him,

784
00:53:36,840 --> 00:53:39,079
Like, I totally get that he
probably deserves it, but I'm also

785
00:53:39,159 --> 00:53:42,880
rooting for him, and I hope
he just fixes those mistakes and does better.

786
00:53:42,880 --> 00:53:47,679
Next team, Next Timmer. Well, this elimination is called barrel Tag.

787
00:53:47,960 --> 00:53:52,440
It is a game of tag.
You are on two different barrels.

788
00:53:52,440 --> 00:53:57,719
You've got to kind of navigate around
this arena, and whoever tags out faster

789
00:53:58,119 --> 00:54:02,719
is the winner. So it's basically
tag and Flora's Lava mixed together. Yeah.

790
00:54:02,719 --> 00:54:06,880
I kind of like the game.
Really. It didn't say this on

791
00:54:06,920 --> 00:54:10,480
the episode, but it has since
come out that if you're the runner,

792
00:54:12,280 --> 00:54:15,480
those barrels were actually heavier. They
were weighted at the bottom to give the

793
00:54:15,480 --> 00:54:20,239
the tagger a little bit of an
advantage. It's harder to run away from

794
00:54:20,239 --> 00:54:22,320
the tagger. It kind of makes
sense otherwise you'd think this could go on

795
00:54:22,400 --> 00:54:25,679
for fucking ever, you know,
if they're both exactly the same weights.

796
00:54:27,519 --> 00:54:30,800
Yeah, I don't know, not
much to say. It was a really

797
00:54:30,800 --> 00:54:37,320
fast elimination round under two minutes from
each person. Yeah, Chris uh use

798
00:54:37,400 --> 00:54:44,480
the strategy of getting the side barrels
and Donkey Kongum Tyler, which was kind

799
00:54:44,480 --> 00:54:46,239
of fun. It was cool to
watch. I don't know how much effect

800
00:54:46,280 --> 00:54:49,519
it had. I guess it could
have slowed it out a few seconds,

801
00:54:49,519 --> 00:54:53,119
and that's kind of all he needed. I guess we do we think that

802
00:54:53,159 --> 00:54:58,880
the times were actually correct. I
don't know. He looked like he was

803
00:54:58,880 --> 00:55:02,519
going fast when it was and Chris's
turn and just grunting like a fucking maniac.

804
00:55:07,800 --> 00:55:09,079
Now did that sound like a free
drink? Come down the road?

805
00:55:09,119 --> 00:55:13,559
Now? Did that thing you see? Tim say how much the barrels weighed?

806
00:55:13,599 --> 00:55:16,280
Like the different barrels. No,
it just said that they were they

807
00:55:16,280 --> 00:55:21,800
were notably different. That there was
definitely like an adjustment period when you had

808
00:55:21,800 --> 00:55:25,840
to get on the opposite barrel.
Okay, because I had an idea of

809
00:55:25,920 --> 00:55:30,239
what I thought Tyler should have done, But it depends how heavy the barrels

810
00:55:30,239 --> 00:55:34,119
are. What should Tyler should have
done? So I thought, like one,

811
00:55:34,199 --> 00:55:36,639
because Chris was hauling at once he
got close enough, I would if

812
00:55:36,639 --> 00:55:38,000
I thought, I would have stood
on one barrel and then like when he

813
00:55:38,039 --> 00:55:40,039
got close enough, I would have
picked up my other barrel and then like

814
00:55:40,159 --> 00:55:45,280
used it to push him backwards off
of his because you know, TJ said,

815
00:55:45,280 --> 00:55:49,079
you can use this stuff on there
to like, you know, stop

816
00:55:49,119 --> 00:55:51,840
hill. However, so I would
have like pushed Chris off of his poll

817
00:55:52,159 --> 00:55:55,920
use it like a battery. Yeah, I wonder if there were rules around

818
00:55:57,159 --> 00:56:00,559
You can use it however you want, but you can't touch the other player,

819
00:56:00,760 --> 00:56:02,079
because they I mean, they always
have in games like that. They

820
00:56:02,119 --> 00:56:06,320
always have those rules that we don't
ever hear, but the challengers here,

821
00:56:07,039 --> 00:56:10,159
so that was part of its.
Otherwise, I think it's telling that when

822
00:56:10,239 --> 00:56:13,920
Chris could throw barrels, he threw
them on the ground. He didn't even

823
00:56:13,920 --> 00:56:19,079
seem like he was aiming for Tyler's
barrels. He looked like he was just

824
00:56:19,119 --> 00:56:21,960
throwing them on the ground to put
some distance in between them and make an

825
00:56:21,960 --> 00:56:24,679
obstacle, but not to knock him
off the thing, you know what I

826
00:56:24,760 --> 00:56:28,280
mean. I don't think they wanted
them throwing barrels at each other. Yeah,

827
00:56:28,320 --> 00:56:30,480
And I don't know about yeah,
throwing a barrel because especially they're heavy,

828
00:56:30,519 --> 00:56:34,119
that could hurt. But like if
you're just like using it kind of

829
00:56:34,159 --> 00:56:37,440
like to either push them off or
just like keep them out of arm's length,

830
00:56:37,440 --> 00:56:38,599
and like, well you can't get
around the barrel music to keep you

831
00:56:38,599 --> 00:56:46,360
from touching me right. Yeah,
I'm not sure, but I mean this

832
00:56:46,400 --> 00:56:50,079
was a cool elimination. I like
I like seeing Chris Winn because I just

833
00:56:50,360 --> 00:56:54,440
because I just do. Yeah,
he stopped this one. I mean,

834
00:56:54,559 --> 00:56:58,079
I think I would like to see
Tyler Winn, but I like both of

835
00:56:58,079 --> 00:57:00,159
them, so good outcome either way. I think Chris winning is a better

836
00:57:00,199 --> 00:57:06,639
story. But you like Chris winning
because I'm tired of Tyler being there,

837
00:57:07,519 --> 00:57:12,280
thank you. Yeah, we talked
about it last week, like his personality

838
00:57:12,360 --> 00:57:15,679
has just been oh look, there's
a cute girl. And I don't know,

839
00:57:15,280 --> 00:57:17,880
I feel like we've gotten a lot
more from Chris and he's been more

840
00:57:17,960 --> 00:57:21,760
enjoyable to watch totally. I was
just gonna say that to you, Zach

841
00:57:21,920 --> 00:57:24,159
is that you probably like Tyler from
Big Brother because I've I've heard I've seen

842
00:57:24,159 --> 00:57:29,039
a lot of people online saying that
they love Tyler as a guy that didn't

843
00:57:29,039 --> 00:57:31,280
watch Big Brother and only the challenge. Tyler can just go fucking die.

844
00:57:31,400 --> 00:57:35,320
I don't care. I don't know
that guy. Well, you know this

845
00:57:35,480 --> 00:57:37,239
has not said or done anything impressive
to me. We know who does seem

846
00:57:37,280 --> 00:57:42,559
impressive. Well that's a bit harsh. Now, I think wasn't impressed with

847
00:57:42,599 --> 00:57:46,800
Tyler. It seems like TJ was
he said he was chill, he faced

848
00:57:46,880 --> 00:57:49,920
chill, and I hope, I
really hope I see you back in the

849
00:57:49,960 --> 00:57:55,320
future. So he seems like I
got the TJ stamp of approval. Yeah,

850
00:57:55,360 --> 00:58:01,119
we forgot to mention. TJ called
the challenge this episode sick. This

851
00:58:01,199 --> 00:58:05,559
is really sick child. Yeah.
I feel like it's this pretty typical t

852
00:58:05,679 --> 00:58:08,000
J thing. Do you guys think, all right, I've been thinking about

853
00:58:08,000 --> 00:58:12,800
this weirdly. Uh, do you
guys think that when TJ is like seventy

854
00:58:12,840 --> 00:58:17,239
years old, he'll call things sick? Probably? Yes. Do you think

855
00:58:17,239 --> 00:58:22,079
his grandchildren would be like Grandpa,
that's fucking old man talk. That's like,

856
00:58:22,320 --> 00:58:25,199
that's like when Joe Biden says malarkey, it's the same thing. Yes,

857
00:58:25,239 --> 00:58:29,599
So we're seeing this in real time. This TJ as a twenty five

858
00:58:29,639 --> 00:58:30,960
year olds would stay sick and we
were just like, oh, that's cool.

859
00:58:31,000 --> 00:58:35,000
TJ's awesome. Now TJ is like
forty five and saying sick, and

860
00:58:35,000 --> 00:58:37,519
it's like, TJ, you gotta
grow up, dude. I never think

861
00:58:37,559 --> 00:58:42,239
that. I mean, I feel
like it's also part of the and maybe

862
00:58:42,239 --> 00:58:44,519
I'm completely off based on this,
I feel like. It also falls into

863
00:58:44,519 --> 00:58:52,400
the BMX and extreme sports genre of
talking. Yeah, City says TJ.

864
00:58:52,519 --> 00:58:54,960
Probably where's his high school letter dracket? Still? I mean, I wouldn't

865
00:58:54,960 --> 00:59:00,480
blind him. Why is J?
Why are you him? He doesn't wear

866
00:59:00,519 --> 00:59:04,039
his high school letter jacket. He
wears any medals that he has won in

867
00:59:04,039 --> 00:59:07,480
the X Games. Letter jackets are
cool on the way they're hating m hm.

868
00:59:09,000 --> 00:59:13,599
Okay, Case said he did say
that season thirty nine is the sick

869
00:59:13,639 --> 00:59:17,199
at season. Yeah, so,
yep, I think about that because I

870
00:59:17,239 --> 00:59:22,039
still call me, I still call
my friends dude, and I feel like

871
00:59:22,039 --> 00:59:23,559
I should start phasing that out.
Yeah, I say dud a lot.

872
00:59:23,679 --> 00:59:29,639
It's like I'm almost forty four years. I'm almost as old as Wolfield.

873
00:59:30,159 --> 00:59:31,559
I know. It's like I'm too
old. I gotta I gotta phase out

874
00:59:31,599 --> 00:59:35,760
duter right, I'm too old for
that. You should be listening to Glenn

875
00:59:36,119 --> 00:59:40,599
d is a weird one. That's
that's a that's an old one. Sometimes

876
00:59:40,639 --> 00:59:44,840
sometimes I throw on an El du
Ano. I'm not into the whole brevity

877
00:59:44,880 --> 00:59:52,320
thing. Yeah, you're a bow
wolf. You got it, Thanks Wolfie.

878
00:59:52,639 --> 00:59:54,440
All right, so we we at
the end of this. Yeah,

879
00:59:54,719 --> 00:59:59,280
I'm done Chris. Yes. Oh
he does cry. On his way out.

880
00:59:59,400 --> 01:00:01,880
He says, it's just so hard
to be fighting alone this long.

881
01:00:02,000 --> 01:00:07,039
But I'm still here. I mean, he did do his Survivor season and

882
01:00:07,199 --> 01:00:12,840
this by himself, so you can
toughen up a little bit. Come on,

883
01:00:12,920 --> 01:00:19,320
Chris, Yeah sure, all right, Well head over to challengepot dot

884
01:00:19,360 --> 01:00:22,920
com. Join the Facebook group.
Tim What do people get if they join

885
01:00:22,960 --> 01:00:25,119
our Patreon All right, so we
have one tier. It is five dollars

886
01:00:25,119 --> 01:00:29,199
a month. With that five dollars, the first thing we do is say

887
01:00:29,239 --> 01:00:31,320
your name, so thank you to
Elena, Alvin, Caroline, Christine,

888
01:00:31,440 --> 01:00:36,480
Christopher, Cindy, Emily, Greg, Jamie Joker, Julie Martez, Patty,

889
01:00:36,599 --> 01:00:38,360
rolled in, Ryan, Samuel,
Sarah, Sarah, Scott, Seth's

890
01:00:38,440 --> 01:00:42,320
check, and Stan. I figured
out how to properly filter it, so

891
01:00:42,360 --> 01:00:45,760
I think I got it right.
You also get access to the discord,

892
01:00:45,280 --> 01:00:49,159
which is a lot of fun.
I post these weird challenge videos that I've

893
01:00:49,320 --> 01:00:51,800
run across from MTV Challenge, so
I've reddit you should look at those.

894
01:00:52,559 --> 01:00:55,840
You can watch this live, although
anybody can these days. But I send

895
01:00:55,840 --> 01:01:00,639
the invite out to the Patreon users. I don't know is that it that's

896
01:01:00,639 --> 01:01:07,159
it for Patron. I think that's
it. Sure yeah, Deman, I

897
01:01:07,199 --> 01:01:12,519
reviews him. We surely do.
We have two new ones. Snarled at

898
01:01:12,519 --> 01:01:15,400
two three four says favorite Challenge recap. I've been listening to listening for a

899
01:01:15,400 --> 01:01:19,599
few years, always one of my
go tos. After watching a Challenge episode,

900
01:01:19,639 --> 01:01:23,880
the guys cracked me up. And
Carlin is a mediocre addition. Oh

901
01:01:24,119 --> 01:01:29,199
kidding, he says, a great
addition, great addition. Oh well,

902
01:01:29,280 --> 01:01:32,559
thanks, I would have been fine
with mediocre too. Uh sorry, sorry,

903
01:01:32,559 --> 01:01:37,079
Brian misspelled. Josh is one of
my favorite challengers. You believe that

904
01:01:37,119 --> 01:01:43,559
fucking shit. But nothing makes me
laugh more than when you do his impression.

905
01:01:43,599 --> 01:01:51,000
It's the best. I'm hot,
No, he kind of is.

906
01:01:52,239 --> 01:01:54,480
And then we have another one.
It's a four star review from Barry four

907
01:01:54,639 --> 01:01:59,159
four four four two says fun listen. I tune in every week and the

908
01:01:59,199 --> 01:02:01,599
show is very interest interesting and I'd
like to hear everyone's takes. Carlin has

909
01:02:01,599 --> 01:02:06,000
been a mediocre addition, No,
he says, great too, don't worry,

910
01:02:06,559 --> 01:02:16,519
and really makes the show more interesting. Zach, take off your headphones

911
01:02:16,559 --> 01:02:22,039
for a second, Zach Wolf,
we shut that fucking thing off. Hol

912
01:02:22,119 --> 01:02:24,920
On, They need to bash bananas. Let me go for a second.

913
01:02:25,679 --> 01:02:30,199
No, it's bashing you. I
am not a fan of Zach. Sorry,

914
01:02:30,280 --> 01:02:31,280
Zach, but we've all gotten hate. We've all gotten hate on the

915
01:02:31,320 --> 01:02:36,079
podcast. It's just your tild not
a fan of Zach. Not much to

916
01:02:36,079 --> 01:02:39,239
add. And the Johnny Banana's obsession
is so grading but overall funny podcast.

917
01:02:39,280 --> 01:02:43,639
And I like that they go through
the show chronologically. Love the Josh impression.

918
01:02:45,840 --> 01:02:50,000
I'm still hard. That's it.
Well, Zach, welcome to the

919
01:02:50,000 --> 01:02:52,039
club. Man. I think me
and Wolfie have gotten our fair share of

920
01:02:52,199 --> 01:02:54,000
negative comments. Yours is coming,
Carlin, don't you worry. This is

921
01:02:54,000 --> 01:02:57,480
my first negative. So I'll just
go back and read all the people that

922
01:02:57,559 --> 01:03:00,159
like said how much they love me
when I first joined. That's what she

923
01:03:00,199 --> 01:03:04,119
got it too, man, Just
you know you're gonna You're not gonna make

924
01:03:04,159 --> 01:03:07,119
everybody happy all the time. See
Tim said that we had two reviews and

925
01:03:07,159 --> 01:03:09,000
they called me both out my name, and I one hundred percent thought that

926
01:03:09,000 --> 01:03:12,000
it was going to be something along
the lines of like, oh, I

927
01:03:12,039 --> 01:03:15,920
can't believe she called out Republicans.
This not the other she sucks. I

928
01:03:15,960 --> 01:03:21,440
hate this. Well, they did
spell it c a r L. Yeah,

929
01:03:21,440 --> 01:03:22,400
so they might have been talking to
Carlin, they might have been talking

930
01:03:22,400 --> 01:03:27,840
to George. Yeah. They also
said, you know that Josh is a

931
01:03:27,880 --> 01:03:32,480
fair challenger, So how good of
taste do they really have? Oh?

932
01:03:32,599 --> 01:03:38,519
Snap, Carlin, how does that
feel? I'm not great. I mean,

933
01:03:38,559 --> 01:03:43,280
you think you think Josh has a
has a fighting chance, so I'll

934
01:03:43,280 --> 01:03:45,519
get a judgment, do you well? Carlin? I just want to say,

935
01:03:45,559 --> 01:03:51,000
you said you said Josh would never
make a final. We are so

936
01:03:51,920 --> 01:03:54,599
there, we are right there?
Okay, so I did. I did

937
01:03:54,679 --> 01:03:59,760
listen back to that episode and I
realized at the beginning of the episode I

938
01:03:59,760 --> 01:04:01,320
said he would never make a final, and at the end of the episode,

939
01:04:01,320 --> 01:04:03,679
I never I said he would never
win a final. All right,

940
01:04:03,719 --> 01:04:10,840
So what is it standing by?
He will never ever make a final,

941
01:04:11,360 --> 01:04:15,440
make a final, make a final? Okay. I think that he is

942
01:04:15,440 --> 01:04:17,760
one of those people that they will
bring to the end and they will cut

943
01:04:17,800 --> 01:04:20,360
him at the end. I think
I'll make I think I'll make a final.

944
01:04:21,840 --> 01:04:28,280
I think he most definitely will never
win the final, but I definitely

945
01:04:28,280 --> 01:04:30,800
didn't I'll make it. Whether if
people just take him to the end to

946
01:04:30,280 --> 01:04:33,119
you know, because they think he's
easy a beat or like even if he

947
01:04:33,119 --> 01:04:36,199
goes into that last simination, Well, if he does this for ten years,

948
01:04:36,199 --> 01:04:40,519
you tell me he won't like Luke
Win his way in at least once

949
01:04:44,239 --> 01:04:45,639
I'm in, Maybe what do I
have to what do I have to eat

950
01:04:45,840 --> 01:04:54,400
too? If he makes it?
Thinkin that it's an Alaska like native delicacy,

951
01:04:54,440 --> 01:04:57,679
where like once they like clean all
the fish, they take all the

952
01:04:57,719 --> 01:05:00,119
heads, the tails. They put
him in a bucket filled wall. He

953
01:05:00,960 --> 01:05:03,480
buried underground for like sixty days to
ferment, then eat it like soup.

954
01:05:05,400 --> 01:05:12,159
Do you have you ever had that? I have not? M hm shocked.

955
01:05:15,159 --> 01:05:19,360
He's active. So we do have
a couple of things. First off,

956
01:05:19,559 --> 01:05:27,719
yesterday Wes and his wife had their
second child, Lucy Jean. So,

957
01:05:29,280 --> 01:05:31,480
oh, the dog is the first
child, right, isn't this their

958
01:05:31,519 --> 01:05:36,239
first actual human kid? I could
beat Okay, maybe that's I think.

959
01:05:36,400 --> 01:05:40,920
I'm pretty sure this is their first
and the dog is the first. I

960
01:05:40,960 --> 01:05:43,960
saw him referred to as the second
child, but that must be sensence dog

961
01:05:44,719 --> 01:05:48,199
Annah. Yeah, yeah, and
her name is Lucy. She's so he's

962
01:05:48,199 --> 01:05:53,519
a girl dad, which I'm a
big fan of girl dads. We congratulations

963
01:05:53,719 --> 01:05:57,000
and that's very exciting. I love
old white lady names like Lucy. I

964
01:05:57,519 --> 01:06:01,159
have a niece named Lucy. Yes, and then and then what's your what's

965
01:06:01,199 --> 01:06:03,360
your second thing? Because I need
to I need to go. I'm gonna

966
01:06:03,360 --> 01:06:10,559
be okay, let's urry this so
we have a sad Nelson update. Nelson's

967
01:06:10,599 --> 01:06:14,360
ankle broke again. He went to
me with the doctor who said, most

968
01:06:14,400 --> 01:06:16,719
likely they what do you do?
It just naturally broke. It wasn't healing

969
01:06:16,840 --> 01:06:19,079
right, and the doctor said they're
probably there gonna have to fuse it into

970
01:06:19,119 --> 01:06:23,360
place so it won't bend anymore,
or he might have to get pot amputated.

971
01:06:26,800 --> 01:06:29,679
That sucks. Yeah, that sucks
for him, just on a life

972
01:06:29,679 --> 01:06:32,880
basis. I mean, he's definitely
never coming back to the challenge now,

973
01:06:33,199 --> 01:06:38,960
but back that sucks. That sucks
on a life basis. I'm okay with

974
01:06:39,039 --> 01:06:41,199
him not coming back to the challenge. I was never a fan of his.

975
01:06:41,880 --> 01:06:46,599
I mean, finally someone else I
also love. Yeah, I guess

976
01:06:46,599 --> 01:06:48,840
it's true. You've always said that
you don't like him, and I have

977
01:06:48,960 --> 01:06:53,519
always agreed with you. But I
am every time I have agreed with you,

978
01:06:53,599 --> 01:06:58,079
I have been behind a computer screen
and not I am not a Nellie

979
01:06:58,079 --> 01:07:00,400
fan. I'm him. I love
Nellie even if I didn't, like I

980
01:07:00,559 --> 01:07:04,960
would. I never want to see
anyone leave the show like for medical purposes,

981
01:07:05,000 --> 01:07:08,360
Like everyone should be able to go
out on the No. I mean,

982
01:07:08,400 --> 01:07:15,159
that's an awful reason to have to
leave the show. Yeah, that's

983
01:07:15,159 --> 01:07:16,599
everything. But I will say,
you know, we've had people on Survivor

984
01:07:17,079 --> 01:07:20,320
who have competed with prosthetic legs,
So maybe we could get Nelly on there

985
01:07:20,360 --> 01:07:30,239
with a fake foot if anybody,
But Survivor is not like a you can

986
01:07:30,239 --> 01:07:34,960
win Survivor without winning a physical competition. That is not true of the challenge.

987
01:07:33,719 --> 01:07:39,119
It's I mean the finals are always
Yeah, the finals are always going

988
01:07:39,199 --> 01:07:43,039
to be a you need to run
for multiple miles. And even if he

989
01:07:43,119 --> 01:07:45,440
gets to a point where he has
it, if he does get amputated and

990
01:07:45,639 --> 01:07:53,719
he has a prosthetic lamb and he
is able to run long distances, I

991
01:07:53,719 --> 01:07:59,199
don't know that he is going to
be able to gain that ability in that

992
01:07:59,320 --> 01:08:01,199
short period of time to be able
to then compete with all of these people.

993
01:08:01,320 --> 01:08:05,159
True, even if you can't win, I'd left to him from back

994
01:08:05,159 --> 01:08:09,199
to one more season. That way
he could least leave on his own terms,

995
01:08:09,400 --> 01:08:17,319
not not through the injury. Yep, I'm good without it. I

996
01:08:17,399 --> 01:08:20,720
feel like, yeah, I don't
want to see him Bay. It's unfortunate

997
01:08:20,760 --> 01:08:24,880
that he's leaving for this reason,
but I don't want to see him again.

998
01:08:25,000 --> 01:08:28,640
Heartless, heartless. Carlin, you're
just like MICHAELA is just all like

999
01:08:28,960 --> 01:08:34,920
logical and no emotion. No emotion
on that one. Ye, it happens.

1000
01:08:34,960 --> 01:08:41,279
It's called Carlin Vulcan. Yeah,
hey, everybody, thanks for stopping

1001
01:08:41,399 --> 01:08:45,880
by. I guess for this episode
of Challenge has been Bran Big Un Sweet,

1002
01:08:45,159 --> 01:08:55,399
Zachie Bananas, Live Long and prosper
Carlin san Diego. It is Josh

1003
01:08:55,439 --> 01:09:00,199
probably said, look at me,
I'm all oiled up. Charlotte Rue,

1004
01:09:01,239 --> 01:09:08,960
but Charlotte un Charlotte with Charlie,
Charlie and a real study