Hey, everybody, Welcome back to Challenge the podcast all about the Challenge as
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Big Uncle, Sweet Tea, and still at work, never goes home,
Zachy Bananas and who the fuck knows where she's at this week. Carlin
san Diego. I think I've originally, I've officially given up the CT.
We're just gonna go with Carlin san Diego for I like that one. That's
a good one. Well, it's not gonna make any sense when I go
back to Wednesdays, but whatever I mean, it might who knows my name
hasn't made sense for years, and I still I still stick with Krawdaddy,
t Swing, Sweet Uncle, the Ship, Swaggy Tea, Big Tea.
Yeah, there's a lot of them. I know, I just go through
them. I should mix it up a little bit. Uh. Jacqueline says,
I like Carlin san Diego. There you go, I do too.
It's good. Yeah, thank Wolfie for that one. The Joker says that
opening song reminds me of early eighties bikini flicks. I used to quote unquote
enjoy ah those times before the internet those sweet innocent times. So I did
the same thing. Especially if it was like scrambled, you just had to
like flip back and forth. I hope it would stick on the screen even
though it was scrambled. Yeah, oh man, yep, being a guy
in the nineties was terrible. Just go to the local general store, just
peruse the vhs. Look for ones that look like women in bikinis. Those
are the ones you gotta go for. Yeah, bikini car wash, bikini
bakery, bikini. Yeah, this has not become a bikini podcast. We
are no longer talking about the challenge. Yep. I'm gonna leave, have
a good night. I talked before the divorce. I talked some friends of
ours we're going through, like, let's watch some of these old weird like
bikini, you know whatever, and watch them. I'm like, we should
do a podcast called Titty Tuesday where we just review these old like Skinnamax like
movies. It'd be hilarious. Carlin left. Carlin's like, how how much
do you think it costs in twenty twenty three to get a rock capella to
do a Carlin intro song check? Maybe they're on fiber, Maybe they're on
cameo. Maybe they're on cameo. Yeah, play it, play at Rockefella?
Is that what they would say? Sing it? Sing it Rockefella?
Sing it? Maybe? Yeah, like rock me on the Davis or do
you know there is Carlin that played on the Carmen San Diego show the acapella
group. Yeah capella. Yeah they didn't know that. Yeah. They they
did the theme song just with their mouths. Yeah cool. I mean I
know what acapella is. I just didn't realize that it was an acapella sing
song or acapella song. Yeah, the dude with the real low voice to
the Carmen San Diego part. I'll send you a video of it when we
get done on here. Carlin perfect, she's not gonna be able to enjoy
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right? This episode is episode eleven. It's called Slippery Business because they just
ran out of good ideas for show titles. I guess, so they're just
like, fuck it, we'll just name it after what the challenge is named
this week. Oh yeah, So Chris comes back into the house after winning
his third elim nation and again not excited. Nobody in the house is excited.
He looks defeated. Everybody else looks upset that he's there. Still not
exactly a celebration as they head back to the house. He did get some
some pats on the back this time, though. Yeah. They seems kind
of empty though, and they they're all bullshit, I mean, considering what
happens in this episode. Yeah, they just want him gone, so it's
like they'll pay him some little lip service. But nobody's excited that he's there.
And we see Chris and he says that he's back in the house and
he's ready to target Fessie and Tyler. He feels like those are the two
big guys that he needs to sort of focus on getting out for some reason,
I don't know. I don't know why he thinks that, because they're
both the two that keep like putting him in. But a lot of people
are putting him in. They are they're like voting him in and ship.
But I mean, I think they have when they've been in power. I
think they directly put him in Yea, that's probably it. Yeah, And
so this is when he gets of a lot of these people that are sort
of feeling alone in the game, like Cassidy Tyler and even Chris, and
they sort of all talk about how we are unaligned. We're just sort of
floating by in this house where it constantly targets, and there's some little conversation
between all three of them maybe trying to see if there's a way they can
sort of navigate this game together. None of this ends up coming into fruition,
but like, not a bad plan, right, guys? Sure together?
Yeah, I mean I'm kind of surprised with how many people there are
that are just kind of floating, being that we are relatively far in this
game and there are some very big alliances, so it is kind of surprising.
Yeah, it seems like Survivor the Vets and then everybody else and everybody
else is just sort of floating around. Yep. This is when I think
banding together is a good idea. I think so too. I Mean,
everybody needs numbers and these Yeah, if nobody has an alliance, it's like,
of course, just vote this same but they can't even manage to do
that, So what do I know. Hey, the editors screwed me up
this time. Guys, Corey gets a phone call. I think I said
a couple of weeks ago, if we see you on the phone, you're
probably going home. Oh true. So when Corey, when Corey's on the
phone, I was like, oh, son of a bitch, Corey's leaving.
I love Corey, but Christmas on the phone at some point too.
I know they're throwing me off this season. Man, it's screwing me up.
I know you guys don't care about this Cory phone call, right,
I really thought of you. He's got kids way, Oh my god,
I did when he started getting choked up. I started getting choked up,
to god. I mean I appreciated the scene because it does like it.
It shows Corey in a light. I mean he what was it like seven
or eight years ago when he got the the Slut of the House award it
yea at the un right right after they slut shame the ship at a Tory.
Yeah, like, oh here's Corey. Women. I hated that,
absolutely hated that because of what they had done prior to it. But anyway,
it's nice to see Corey as the family man. And around his like
it's nice to see him get real chucked up around his kids. And yeah,
it shows I mean, it really just showed how much he he loves
those two. Congrats Corey kept having sex with a woman until she got pregnant.
Good job for you. Such a cynical out or outlook on that will
be. I'm with you, Carlin. It shows depth of character that he
is like and it doesn't seem like lip service to me. He seems like
super dedicated to those kids. Yeah, I think it's awesome. Absolutely all
right, Well that's it for this sort of pre thing. We are already
into the challenge will be hit the button? Pollis man likely? I did
I hit it twice? It's probably gonna play again. Nice, I hope.
So I can't get enough CT. This one's called slippery business. As
I just said. TJ gives a big long intro about why this is like
important to the country that they're in. Who cares about any of that?
It's just a wil wrestling, Yeah, they wanted to find out, So
find some way to say oil wrestling without actually saying oil, right, It
sounds gross unless they say, like, oh, it's a cultural tradition.
All right, yeah, right, it's just people getting slathered up and wrestling.
Something for everybody, though. I oiled up a bunch of women getting
oiled up Sydney west Side the best challenge of the season, maybe the best
song of best years. Yeah, they've had they've had challenges like this,
and quite a few in the last not quite a few. They've had a
smattering of them in the last like ten years. There was the one where
it was the big pit with all the balls down at the bottom and they
had to like jump into the pit with all the soap and climb back up
the walls. And they've had a few things like this where they're just covered
in oil and soap and things, and it's fun. It's fun to watch,
for sure. I love it. I think it's great, Zach.
You know, I definitely cracked up about how into it the guys were getting
with pouring the stuff all over them, and Tory was the only one of
the women getting into it. I made a note of that. I feel
kind of ripped off as a dude. We had to watch all the dudes
do that, and then it's the women's time. They just are not they're
not even trying. Yeah, But again, this falls back into that same
thing where Tory got slut shamed to just Kingdom Come and then immediately after that,
Corey got an award for being a slut. It's that same thing,
Like the women aren't going to pour the oil all over themselves because they know
that they're immediately going to be slut shamed on the internet, Whereas if the
dudes do it, it's be like, oh, look at them and look
how sexy. Do you think it'd be shamed? I mean it would be
absolutely objectified for sure. No, No, because there are women out there.
This isn't by the men. There are women who watch the show who
are women are the are the meanest people? Two other women? And there
are women that watch this show that will absolutely look at it go ah,
I can't believe that they played into it this much. Look at what they're
doing. It would happen. Yeah, you think it'd be more women than
men that would get interesting. Absolutely, I could see men definitely objectifying and
like, I mean, objectifying is probably the only real word for it.
Oh yeah, the dudes will be objectifying the fuck out of them, But
yeah, it's the women that'll get that really really vile. With what they're
saying. Yeah, well that's too bad. It really robbed us of some
nice shots. I think I agree, Zach, you said this is the
best. What made it the best just the hot women with a oil on
them. I mean, Dad definitely helps. But also just like you know,
we love the like physical eliminations, the hall brows, and this was
just yeah basically get you know, slippery and like wrestle each other. So
like, I just I love the physicality. I think it would be more
fun if they'd done it like one on one elimination like tournament style. Me
too, EISO would have done that. Yeah, it was very weird having
all of them start at the same time and then no real like guidance on
it. I don't know, No, I call bullshit because everybody teams up
on Chris and throws him out. Yeah, everybody teams up on Tyler and
I'm like, don't be a bunch of bitches. Just everybody go at it
well, and with Tyler especially, they were just like they were just like
bananas. You get him. The other guys in there, like, what's
going on? You guys should be wrestling each other time. I know,
Yeah, I think you guys will finally you'll you'll be you'll be happy about
this. This is the first episode that I was really like, Okay,
I understand why people like Michaela. Yeah, because she like as she's doing
her confessionals, like Bessie's just standing there like he's just pointing telling people what
to do. I was like, thank you. I glad that we're not
the only ones to see this, right. Yeah, I appreciated her in
this episode. I yeah, I always appreciate her. I think she's great.
But she also looked real fucking hot and coming up from winning. I
made a note of that one. The last episode or two has been like,
oh, I see Michaela in a totally different light all of a sudden.
I don't know what happened, but I think I think it was the
shirt. The shirt from last episode. It was like, oh, yeah,
that's that awoke something in me. Still not better than Olivia's. I
don't know, A man, I don't know, but Tim likes the Tim.
Tim likes the the smaller women with pale skin and dark hair, which
I realized Michaela does not have either of those two things, but he wants
the petite woman and uh, Olivia's boobs are definitely upset. I don't think
I'm a petite woman, guy, I don't. I don't think that even
smaller or your ex wife was smaller she was. I didn't like her.
I'm not saying that I liked at one point in time. That's true.
Yes, but you talked about Chris. Chris did an admirable job with five
dudes on him. He did a great job. It was outstanding. He
would even had the upper hand in a couple of different cases, but ultimately,
when it's five against one, you're gonna lose. Like its just you
just are. I'm a big Chris fan this season. Yeah, no ship,
Yeah, I hope he just sucks all these assholes over me too.
So far, he's doing it because I mean, if this was Johnny,
he would be throwing the biggest fit in the entire world. Keep throwing me
in every time he did that earlier this season. Yeah, now like that's
all that they keep doing a Chris yep, and look Allison saying the same
thing. I think Chris is when he a lot of fans on this season,
everybody, everybody loves the underdog, and he certainly is that role.
I disagree about the Johnny aspect though, well, of course you did.
Johnny threw a ship fit when he got his name just thrown in the hopper.
Yeah, yeah, Banana should be embarrassed. Frankly, Johnny throws a
ship fit anytime he gets nominated. Anytime he's even remotely close to it,
he throws a ship fit. Yeah. So I have not been listening to
this podcast all season. I just started relistening like a couple of days ago,
binging them, and he's been bringing up a lot. Why because he's
amazing second greatest challenge podcast behind ours. I mean, at least you've got
that right. But no, like he's been talking a lot about how like
him and the other vets were like greatly in a horrible position. He's like,
yeah, it's kind of like what we did the rookies is like and
because of that, like I don't hold it against him, like I get
it, Like they should be doing this. This is why I've been doing
for years, you know, a fair game. So I don't think he's
get at all. Why is he throwing a big fit on TV? I
think he tried to use his like his history, his you know, like
the respect he has like two intimiday people, and they're like, if he's
just like oh okay and like lays down takes it, it's gonna be easier.
But if he's like, who the f is throwing me in, you
know, like people are gonna be a lot more afraid to throw him in.
Abody out of that, he looked pathetic. M notice that since he's
done that though he went in. Now, since he did that, he
hasn't got in again. All right, whatever, Uh, that's that's about
it for the dudes. Oh, at the end, it ends up just
Corey versus Fessi, and really maybe it doesn't matter who wins because they're both
sort of aligned together and whatever. But what do you guys think of this
last round? Cos I love that Fessi's just like, this is what I
do. I played for years. This is amazing, and I stood around
and just directed people. Cory's all I gassed out. I think Corey's like,
oh no, fuck that bullshit and just like chucked him out of the
ring. I loved this Watching Corey, I legitimately like out loud yes and
started like I was super excited that Corey actually got this one. Yeah,
because god, Fessie is just such a douche. I think all of us,
I think we all appreciate and celebrate when Fessi loses anything. He also
I hate that. I'm gonna say this right now. Josh Loak's better than
Hita is Josh. I don't like Josh, but Josh looks better than he
does, especially has really fallen off on me, like keeping that physique site
and nice and tight. I know, yeah, Josh, Josh looks good
this season, even Chris, like in comparison to how he has looked in
previous seasons. I agree. I mean, you guys hay it on Josh.
I mean, before the Joms tired, we got that confessional from Chris,
and Josh is one of the ones that he's like. Chris is like
physically, I'm afraid to go against Josh, Yeah, because Joh just like
six ft taller than him. Yeah. Well, this is one two that
I don't like. Strength is all that really matters in this game. And
so Josh is uncoordinated and he's not athletic and whatever, but you don't need
any of that in this game. You just fucking yank people and pull him
and push him and you can win. I mean, you need it to
a certain extent, because if you're going to stand up, you have to
be able to keep your balance. And that's why Josh was on his knees
with his arms around Chris, because he knew the moment that he stood up,
his ugliness would just take him out like a raf on roller skates.
Right. But yes, Corey too, I guess I didn't realize it,
recognize it until this episode. He looks enormous compared to Corey is huge.
He is a fucking brick shit house of a man this season. I mean,
in comparison to all of the other guys, all of them, Corey
is massive. Yeah. And he's not always been massive, right, that's
not this is a new thing for him, Like he's been strong and fig
big, But I mean this is like he was never Hunter when when they
had the Young Bucks, Hunter was always bigger than him, if I remember
correctly, Hunter was always bigger in him. Corey is right now rivaling like
the johnnyct Evan, like west Royd rage era. Yeah, just monstrous monstrous
men. Yeah, he's huge. Yeah. It surprised me when he's standing
up against Fessie, I'm just like, holy shit, look at that fucking
guy. It's I don't know, and we've seen him for many, many
years and I've never thought that about him until now, But yeah, he
looked massive in comparison to the rest of them. Yea. I feel like
in a previous episode someone mentioned that Corey was the like, the biggest of
the guys there, and I kind of I heard the comment and was kind
of like, Oh, no, he's not like Fessie and Josh and Nah,
he's those guys are totally bigger than him. But seeing him like actually
stand up next to him without a shirt on any of them, Oh,
Nope, that's true. Yeah, absolutely true. Yep. With that,
we're onto the women. The women had the same basic strategy, but instead
of Chris, they're focusing on Chanel or Cassidy, so everybody is sort of
trying to take Cassidy out. Cassidy also putting up a really good fight here.
Who knew she had an innner? She mentioned she uh practices movie tire.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, you mentioned a couple. She's very ground
based, so it was very obvious. I was a little bit annoyed.
I'm guessing that they are probably all have time they can't do this, but
was like when she said that, I was like, Cassidy, like throw
a triangle choke around someone, like just like pass them out, like when
it's throw five on one. I just like, you know that they are
not allowed to do that. The moment that someone gets their arms around like
that, you know that TCH is immediately going to call them out and say
ah that or immediately disqualify them. That's not gonna happen. Come on,
Oh well he didn't post a link. How dare you? Wolfee did post
it on Patreon and the discord. I don't know. We've seen some illiminations
where they're down wrestling in the dirt where we've seen like some ankles being twisted
and like the leg locks so like, and I think Cassie could have yeah,
but there's a difference between a leg lock and someone doing a triangle hold
on someone's neck and passing them out. I still said she should go.
And I think that I've heard no CBS is watering these things down. If
it's a CBS show, they are they're a little I think we risk averse
the MTV. We definitely, I remember I was talking about that. If
you see a few episodes ago, Yeah, it was the one where they
were up in the air, the one, No, it was another way.
It was one of them. It might have been the one where West
went home, where they were up there, and it just was that last
week at the end. I feel like it must. It was before that
we were talking about how things were one they felt watered down. Yeah,
they felt not quite as physical as previous seasons have been. Yep. Actually,
now that I'm looking at my notes again, I got ahead of myself.
They focused on Tori first and then Cassidy. So Tori was the first
out. On her way out, Tori says, if it were one on
one, come on, we all know I would have beaten everyone here.
What do we think, guys, I don't know about that. I think
she could have beat a few of them. I don't think that she could
have taken all of them. I don't think she would have come in last
place as she did this time. But there's like Desi is a brickshit house
of a woman, and michaela is too. Like Tori is not the biggest
strongest this season like she usually is. I think she's used to being in
that position, but I'm not sure that she is now. Yeah, she
doesn't. She's I think she's used to being the scary one and she's not
that. No, IM, she's that because of her alliance, but she's
not that personally. Yeah. Yeah, Desi, Chanel, and Michaela all
look bigger and stronger than her, frinkly, But I wish we would have
seen the tournament style and then we would have know. Like Zach said,
I think a tournament side would have been a better way to play this game.
But what do I know. It took all three of them to get
Cassidy out, and Desi actually got out in the process of getting Cassidy out,
so yeah, they I mean, Cassidy put up a great fight.
And yeah, I did think it was interesting they went for Toy first,
since you know, we saw that the Survivor like power Girls, had an
alliance with her, so I think they would be thinking at least like,
Okay, we gotta get Chanelle first, then we could team up against Tory.
But then, like a cat first, you get that cast first.
But the fact that they went r after tore, you know, I think
that's very dangerous. I could have like made Tori lose trust in them.
Yeah, it doesn't seem to have bothered her much. I don't know.
I guess she figures if she's a line of them, who cares who wins?
You know, it's some bullshit. We'll get into more of that later.
Yeah, well comes down to Mikayla versus Chanelle. It starts to rain
and everything. Just when this competition can't get any sex, he or here
we go now it's raining. What did you guys think of his last round
that I read? It took over thirty minutes in real time. It was
intense. It was Yeah. I love seeing them like do the different roles
and flips to like switch position and uh yeah, it definitely looked like yes,
Sam, Yeah, look like some straight out of the WrestleMania. I
was gonna say, a w wolfie. It's like that, like to don't
talk, don't talk about wrestling if you don't know talking about Chris. But
they were throwing out terms, Wolfe. Were those all real terms that they
were throwing out? It was there were like a shrimp, what was one?
Clams? Was a scorpion chop? A scorpion is a scorpion is a
move when like you when you're on a snowboard or skis and you hit the
ground and you face plant in the ground and then your feet come up behind
you and smacking in the back of the head. That's a scorpion and wrestling
there is a scorpion death block in the scorpion death drop. But yeah,
but it was neither one of those. No, Sidy is a big fan
of the clam chop, using that, yeah, we all know what the
clam chop is. I didn't see that in action, but Howison says,
I'm not gonna lie. That was shaking my head. Yes it was,
Yes, it was. I was a big fan of that, but Michaela
wins and I don't know. I wasn't surprised. You know, Chanelle is
bigger, so I thought maybe Sanelle would be able to overpower here, but
Michaela pulled it out. But yet again, another another episode, another challenge
where Michelle or not Michelle, where Chanelle talks about how she's an athlete and
how she's so good at these different things and that she's gonna make she's bigger
than all the girls. She's gonna beat their ass. And then I mean,
she didn't shop the bed this time. But no. Unimpressive season really,
and she's aligned with all these really strong women and and that's helping her.
But it's I, you know, what is she bringing? It seems
like everybody else's performing. And I'm tired of her saying that she's so good
at this stuff or that she's so athletic and that she should be winning.
She sounds like Bessy from a few years ago. Yeah, I'm just I'm
tired of her saying that and then just not showing up. I don't know
if it's accurate not, But when she said that she was the heaviest woman
left in the house, like, I would have never guessed that she doesn't
look that big to me, with the with the muscle mass that woman has
on her app they believe that I would have she's more built than Desi is.
See I guess, and see I would have. I would have put
Desi's wife. I would have been like the most like muscle dense and heaviest.
I think muscle muscle dense is probably right, but Chanelle, I'm not
sure hers, as they both have like Chanelle has got some serious shoulders and
arms. I feel like they both look pretty dense muscle wise. I think
Desi has like an inch on height, but she's more lean. Yeah,
yeah, Desi's got more definition, I think. Yeah, our guess what.
That competition out of the way. We are back at the house.
We have Chanelle and Desi talking and it's just the two of them, and
they're sort of talking about how MICHAELA wants to throw in Tory and kind of
talking shit about this and kind of talking shit about Michaela during this and again
all just teamed up to throw her out of the ring. Though. Yeah,
well we're about to figure out why they're sort of opposed this idea because
as they're talking, Michaela actual it comes stumbling into the room, which I
fucking love it when this happens. And it seems like we're getting this a
lot this season, where like they're talking shit about somebody and then that person
walks in. It's awesome. Uh And Michaela just sure enough, she's just
like, yeah, I think I think we should throw in Tori. So
you know, the other girls were right that Tori was on Michaela's mind,
but they don't want to throw in Tori because they don't want to have to
face her in elimination. What do you guys think? How stupid are they
for this stupid idea decision that they made here. I mean it's the same
it's the same thing that they did last week. Yeah, don't throw her
in because then we're going to be the ones who get picked. They're playing
scared. And Chanelle even said, like Shenly even said, like just lay
low and stay chill and just make it to the final. But if you
make it to the final of people who can beat you, what, who
cares? Who cares about making it the final? Yeah? And with the
with the showing that Chanelle has had, like you should want to get Tori
out now, Yeah, because with your showing, Tori is gonna beat you.
Yep. And one of those women, if they want to get Tor
out, it is true, one of those women is probably gonna have to
do it. If they throw in Tori versus Michelle, Tory is probably coming
back. So they're gonna have to be if they want to win this game,
they're gonna have to take They're probably gonna take her out, but they
decide not to, which is really stupid. I mean, it's a choice.
Yeah, So at the end of the day, they just say Tori
is intimidating, and then they made this deal with Tori that they're not gonna
focus on each other. Yeah, but how long does this deal? Is
this deal gonna last? Right, I mean just forever now, like they're
because it's always seemed to me that those three are in the secret Garden or
whatever. And Tori is sort of like, no, no, it's stupid
on the periphery out here, Like they have this agreement, but they're not
an alliance. But if this agreement lasts until the end of the season,
it is an alliance. Right, It's the same exact fucking thing. Yeah,
yeah, that was you know, when Toy made the deal, that
was what she said. She's like, I want to run the final with
these three women, so at least in Tory is mine. This is like,
this is who we're all running with at the end. Yeah, Well
for Tori, that's not so bad because I do think Tori, just because
of her Finals experience, she's probably gonna win. Well, MICHAELA, Michael
is kind of into killing it, but we'll see. All right. Well,
with that, we are into the nominations. Corey and michaela Is sit
down to talk about who they're going to nominate, and now we start the
most frustrating conversation I've had to witness on television. Michaela, of course wants
to throw in Tory. Corey, of course is having none of that.
It's kind of non negotiable for Corey. He says, no fucking way.
Corey is so fucking stupid in us. Yeah. I mean they both they
kind of both are, and they're not communicating well, and it's it was
frustrating to watch, in my opinion, Cory's find say Banana's name earlier this
season, and all of a sudden, he's like, Nope, can't do
it. Like Corey, now is the time to do it. I guess
it's time to throw him in. Yeah, yep. In terms of his
strategy, all he says is that I'm going for people I feel less connected
to. And then Michaela shoots back right away. She says, well,
then you're not thinking strategically, which is true. But also Corey can kind
of do what he wants, can do what he wants. He's also played
this game before and knows that, Like, you know, alliances are a
big thing, and if you shit on your alliance then you're kind of fucked.
Yeah, but yeah, I don't know. Finally, but I think,
you know, we got talked, you know, in the past about
kind of you know, this game you got to play for the long term.
So I'm sure quite in there looking at like, what's gonna hurt me
negatively over the next decade of my career, throwing him bananas in Tyler whom
I might never see again. Yeah, he is, for sure. He's
thinking that he's been working working with bananas so far and he still doesn't want
a final, so it's not doing him that much. Kid. Yeah,
I think Corey, if he's gonna win, he's gotta go scorched Earth on
one season and just fucking take everybody out they can beat him in a final,
because that's yeah, he keeps making this mistake of going to the final
people who are going to beat him. Honestly, he kind he kind of
reminds me of Leroy. He like he becomes friends with everybody, but can't
seem to pull that trigger to get the people that are going to beat him
in a final out of the house. Well, and they both have a
glaring weakness in their game. For Leroy it was swimming and for Corey it's
puzzles, and you have to have a super strong partner if you're gonna win,
because Corey can't win a final by himself. He just cannot do it
with his puzzle skills. So puzzles are such a massive part not its Yeah,
yes, he's screwed. There's speaking of why is there so many goddamn
veterans left? Everybody fucking gave up and stopped throwing veterans in That stupid hat
trick really solved that problem for the vets, didn't it. It was a
really stupid perfect the women did. Tori's the only real VET left. I
mean, if you want to count Michelle too, fine, but yeah,
yeah, but I mean for the women, they only started out with two
Vets. They had Tory and Amanda and john Ah. I forgot about john
A two. I forgot she was even on this season. I did too,
because there's three piece there. Yes, yep, there totally was because
she was there. I guess the only VET men left her Corey and Bananas,
yes, two and one. But at the same time, Josh,
Yeah, Bessie and Josh have been playing with him yea, and Michelle.
You know, Michelle was on Banana's podcaster of this season. They confirmed that
they had you know, she had an alliance with all the vets going in,
so yeah, but she started out the game with She's what Survivor.
She started out the game with the Survivor team and was very on the Survivor
team, and then after they got john A out, then she kind of
started going more towards the Bats. Yeah, she's been floating in the middle,
and tonight is when she finally makes her stand as to what team she's
on. She's real obvious. Yeah. Well, at the end of this
nomination session, Michaela knows that Corey will not ever compromise on Tory, so
Michaela decides to just cut her losses go with the easy picks. They end
up with Cassidy and Tyler. I don't know, was this the right plan
for Michaela to just back off and let this happen, or should she have
fought harder or should they made a different agreement. I would have fought harder.
I would have been like, look, I'm willing to go into elimination.
Are you willing to go into elimination? Corey? Yeah, he would
have caved at something. Yeah, he would have, And I think for
Michaela, that's I think Michaela versus Tori, and any elimination is a is
a toss up. I mean, MICHAELA stands a chance in anything awesome elimination
to see me too. Yeah, but so I guess MICHAELA is playing a
little scared too. She had that option, I guess. I mean,
I guess we don't know what happens in a stalemate, but that's what we
assume, all right. So it's Cassidy and it's Tyler. Are the nominated
people? Yeah, and Corey runs right over to Tori to tell her that
MICHAELA threw her name out. So Tori is not happy. She thinks they
had this agreement. Tori is feeling betrayed even though it didn't happen, even
though MICHAELA backed off of this. So I guess what all of that,
Well, we got our protect Tori bullshit blew up in their faces anyway.
Yeah, I mean this is all It's all really stupid stuff. I don't
know. All right, Well, it's party night, guys. I feel
like we haven't seen one of these party nights in the house for a while.
I was kind of into this, Yeah, I kind of like this.
I was very into this. Tim. Yeah, I wonder why.
I wonder why would you like to tell us why, Zachy Bananas? Because
we had a Byshell come out with her and Kassby making out gain lap dances.
It was amazing. Byshell is one of those that works when you're reading
it. When you say it, it sounds really stupid. It doesn't work
quite as well, you know. But have you guys in the non Survivor
fans of the group, have you heard of this Byshell thing? No?
No, I didn't even know she was bisexual, Zach, do you know
the whole history of this Byshell thing? Is she actually bisexual? Or is
this just when I'm drunk I like to make out with women. I think
it's more of a just when I'm drunk I like to make out women thing.
I think she actually is, I mean apparently so. So I read
this. This is on the Survivor subredit because they were there's some crossover obviously,
so they were talking about it. But apparently when Winners at War came
out, So Winners at War was Michelle's second Survivorsyes, one of the spoiler
accounts said that Michelle came out as bisexual on Winners at War and so for
like months Survivors fans were talking about that Michelle is bisexual, and then you
watched the show and she never actually came out. She never said anything about
it and has never spoken about it publicly. It's not you know, so
Survivor fans call her Bychell, but nobody else has ever known that this was
even an even a thing that was associated with her. But then Laurel threw
some shade at Michelle this week on social media, just throw it and said
something like, oh, I got drunk with Michelle and she wanted to make
out with me. And Michelle just said like, yeah, I did,
I shot my shot, you know whatever, I wanted to like just completely
dismissed it and you know, owned it. And then we see this on
TV and it's pretty well confirmed now that yes, she's she's likely bisexual,
but hasn't making out with women when you're drunk doesn't mean that you're bisexual because
I have done that many a time and I am not by Yeah, so
I was gonna say, I can see Michelle making out with a woman.
I don't know if we're going to see michellebe like the next Nannie proposing to
a woman and like being like this is my future. I think I agree
with that too. I don't think she takes it super seriously, but she
calls herself by Shell now on social media, and she's just sort of owning
this persona and then just not really caring about it, which is maybe the
best way to deal with this. But anyway, so, yes, you
can call her by Shell if you went to I don't know if Cassidy is
though. Cassidy seems one of these just get drunk and make out with women
type of types. Yeah, yeah, I mean there's a reason for it.
Like women, women getting drunk and making out with other women much less
likely to than have to deal with a dude. If you get drunk and
make out with a dude, you almost always have to deal with this dude
coming up and being like, oh, so this is like a we're gonna
we're gonna really make out now like this, we're gonna continue this all night.
I can make out with a woman they know the business, thirty second
thing, it was fun, whatever, and then you can wander away without
feeling like you're going to have feeling threatened afterwards. Wolfie, one time,
it spent a whole evening trying to make out with me. It was embarrassing
for him. I believe we made out with each other. Thank you very
much. This two thousand and two New Year's Eve. This is why you
guys are divorced. It was like a fucking ways back. I don't know
if she's still in the room, but Allison will be coming to our finale
party. So Carlin's drinking. Allison, you might get lucky. Oh and
wolf Wolfe, maybe you will too, Me and you Buddy part two.
No, I think it's more likely that Tim and Wolfie will make out.
But but I will make out with someone that I just met and we've done
it before. Why not? Why not? To be fair listeners, if
this happens, I will make sure Zach and I will both make sure to
get video and posted all over the social media. Just well, you know,
please. I was going to mention, like, half of this problem
is Tim's actually their old friend, the one, the one that looks like
you, Carlin, the one that looks like you. It's like, let's
take a picture of you guys kissing, and so then like, okay,
and then we would like kiss and she'd be like it didn't work, do
it again? And she did that five times, and we were so drunk
we didn't catch on. Liar, Zach, You're gonna be the suber one
of this group, so you know what to do. Now, I know
what to do. Please please don't do that, Please don't do that.
Unfortunately, I don't think Sidney's gonna be there, so well, no,
st her daughter's gonna just moved. Arizona's gonna be back, and she's leaving
that day. So that's a good reason to not I told her that was
way more important than our dumb bullshit. Hey do non parents. I'm just
like, oh, totally. You always pick your daughter please. All right.
So another thing that happens at this party. The boys go outside minus
Chris, and they all just basically say, like, we gotta go Chris
again, right, like we have to, this is what we have to
do, And they all kind of agree that, yes, of course all
the men are going to throw their votes on Chris. This makes it so
boring, No shit, it does make it really boring. But I agree
with them, like Chris is showing up this season strategic. I think he
has a serious chance of beating all of them. Yeah, strategically, this
is the move that makes sense. For those remaining men, of course,
but you know, as the guy that loves Chris, I don't want them
to do this. And this we also get in the kitchen there. Cassidy
approaches Michaela and says, like, hey, I get it, you had
to nominate me. That's I understand that, but can you just do me
a favor and not like super promote this being a girl's day, Like,
let's just kind of like let the chips fall where they may, and you
know, don't push this too hard. Let's just, you know, whatever,
cut me a little slack here. Michaela basically says, fuck no,
I'm gonna try everything I can do to make it a girl's day, and
then kind of explains her thinking very logically but sort of heartlessly to Cassidy,
and then Cassidy ends up saying that Michaela has no emotions. What did you
guys take away from this whole fight conversation thing? Cassidy didn't want to go
in again and then Michaela doesn't have any emotions? Is that really what you
think? Zach Evan ends. I mean, that was something that I fired
call correctly was discussed about her own survivors, that she was very game body
and was very much like okay, like I gotta do ABC, and like
I don't care who I heard along the way. I think the most emotion
we saw from her is when the when Jay voted for out. Yeah,
she got that super violent turnaround back. That's great. Yeah, Tim,
you mentioned a few a few episodes ago when I like, because I again,
Michaela is still not my favorite person. I like for more of this
episode. She does have a very flat effect, but she also I mean,
like was said in this episode, she plays this game entirely logically,
which I mean can definitely be to your advantage. But part of the reason
why we love this game is because of the emotional side of it, because
these people get so wrapped up in this stuff and it's just it's that's what
brings the drama and the bullshit that we all love. Yeah, I like
it. Sorry ahead, go ahead. Oh, I was gonna say I
like that Michaela is She's extremely honest and to the point, and she does
not sugarcoat anything. And I think I think that Cassidy would have done fine
in this conversation with a little sugarcoating. If Michaela would have just been like,
listen, I like you as a human. I don't like that we
have to vote each other out of the game, but this is what the
game is, and I like you and respect you. But it's it's just
part of the thing, and I hope it can be friends later, you
know, I kind of soften it a little bit. I don't think Michaela
softens things. I think she's like, agree, getting you out is the
right move. I'm going to try to get you out, and that's the
end of this conversation, and it's I don't know, a little softness is
maybe good here occasionally, yep, I agree in a situation Allison says,
I'm a newbie here, but at this point in the game, don't you
need to be strategic? Yes, I think Michaela is getting an unnecessary amount
of shit. She's being extremely strategic, and some people are taking that wrong.
I think, yeah. I think they're just also used to playing this
game with their emotions at the forefront. I think it depends that when you
look at your competition, if you feel like you could beat all of them
in the final, you don't have to be a strategic if you're telling that's
look at them like I can't beat these half of the people the now.
You play much more strategic game to get rid of those half. Yeah,
And a part of me wonders, like, okay, because when Kayla has
someone, we've seen her win two in her own now, like I understand
what's each apartment is. Like I feel like michaela could walk into a final
against any of these women and like have a fighting chance. Like I don't
feel like there's anyone that she needs to get out to win. I kind
of agree in a way, she's like overplaying this a little bit. I'm
not sure she needs to try as hard as she is. She can just
kick their asses. Uh, Carlin, you want to answer Kay's question in
the chat room? Oh? What what's case? Question? Very important?
I got here, I got it late. But Carlin, did you enjoy
shirtless Josh? We answered this question last week? I feel like, so,
okay, you made you. I think you missed this Josh Josh's body
to completely objectify them all. Josh's body definitely looks better than Fassey's now,
but I still don't find either of them attractive. Women are such like better
creatures than men, right, we could just be attracted to who No,
we just it's it's one of those like and I'm sure many women are like
this. I'm sure many men are like this too. It's when your personality
taints who you are, all of it, she said. I think I
think men are different. Men can be like, that's a horrible woman.
She's awful and just so hot. But look at that rack. Yes you
can do that, Carlin. Have you not seen him and I's reaction to
when Amanda's on the screen. I know, the literal devil, but she's
smoking, she's very attractive. I don't find her attractive at all. Yeah,
then you're an idiot. God damn you hear that. My kids are
doing? What are your kids doing? I don't know at your house.
Yes, I'm gonna mute for a second and just yell very loudly at them
to cut it out. We just one second, do it? God damn
it. Stop at there. I really wanted that mute, Like, I
don't know what they're doing, dragging something across the ground or something that's crazy?
Did they kill someone up served? I don't know. It's quiet now.
I don't know what that was. Okay, so let me see where
I'm at in my notes here. Oh, Chris and Michaela talk. Michaela
is trying to kind of soften up Chris and trying to get Chris on her
side because Michaela feels like she needs a few more people that are sort of
in her side. Chris is floating all around without an alliance, and Michaela
says like, hey, here's the deal. We can align together. But
I just want you to try to make this a girl's day. I want
you to vote for Tori. And Chris is just like, okay, no
problem, we'll do it. Yeah. I mean, he doesn't want to
go in. You tell me you want it to be a girl's day,
and he's absolutely gonna say okay, cool, Yeah, let's be let's do
a girl's day. This had to be the best news Chris got all day,
right, He's just sitting there working out Michaela. Michaela comes walking out,
Hey, let's try to make this a girl's day. He's like,
oh yeah, fuck, okay, yeah sure, So he says okay,
and then Michelle goes and she he talks to the secret garden in their bedroom.
They bring Michelle in because they need her number to vote for Tori.
So in their perfect World. They've got Desi, Chanel, Michelle, and
Chris all voting for Tori. That's four votes. That's enough to maybe get
Tori thrown in. Even though it didn't work to nominate her, it still
could get her thrown in. Hardy felt like, I don't know what you
guys saw on this is I thought Christia voted for like a man, vote
for Fessi or someone like. He's still gonna have the same amount of votes
against him, but so it's still the same odds that he goes in or
not. But also if he can get like two men in there to like
take out one of his competitions, it benefits him. That is a good
point. Yeah, I think he's in a anybody but me phase of the
game, so he's probably not even thinking that. He said it is confessionally
said like if anybody comes up to me and tells me to vote a certain
way, all that's how I'll vote. So I think MICHAELA is just maybe
the only one that approached him. Yeah, I think he would have voted
for FESSI. I think he would have voted whoever Yea if anybody came up
and said, vote for somebody who's not you. He would have said,
Okay, yeah, it's not great with that. Matthew through like one rug
vote on Festi and then Fessi went in, that'd be cool, that'd be
great. Well, we're under the secret vote and we actually get more of
the secret vote than we normally do. It's just because we just have less
players now. I think that's true. And it was pretty fast. It
was like, I wish they would have done this all season. They don't
need to have five minutes on everybody. It's just Tori says it's you,
Chris, and then Cass says it's you Chris and whatever. So we still
don't know who I'm going to vote for. The only person that did that
is Michelle, and she's there like talking herself through the decision and who to
vote for and whatever. We'll get to her decision after the elimination because I
want to hear everybody's insights onto this. But we're not quite there yet.
But with the eliminator, with the secret vote out of the way, it's
time for the elimination. Yes, Tis reveals the numbers. Tory comes up
with three votes, so the secret gardens pissed because they were counting on four,
Chanelle comes up with one vote. I assume that's Tyler, right,
we didn't see that vote cast, But who else could that be? Man,
let me go, look, I didn't check beforehand. Yeah, check
that one out. I think that Cassidy went up to Tyler and said,
hey, will you please just vote for Chanelle if you're going to vote for
a woman, And Tyler was like, guessure, that's what I would suspect
happened here, because you know he didn't vote for Chris. Yeah, the
rest of the people voted for Chris. So that was six, So four
not Chris votes six Chris. Yeah, it was Tyler the vote for Chanelle.
Yeah. So this is when we find out Michelle actually voted for Chris.
Even though the Secret Garden approached her, she had her inroad into the
Secret Garden here. She decided to sigh with the vets and go Chris,
good move, bad move. What do you guys think great move would be
a flip flopper Michell? Jesus, I think it's great. She's gonna have
to now great move wise, because I think, you know, if her
goal is to win a season, like I think now going forward, in
all future seasons, she's gonna have Bananas having her back, She's gonna have
Tory, And I think the thing is like, once you get that good
group of people that will take you to the end. So you're just gonna
focus on like training, getting in like Corey shape or Josh shape to where
like Michelle has the puzzle skills, get in great running shape, and then
she'll get carried to final season after season and she just has to outrun everyone.
I mean, she does now have an alliance that knows that she's with
them, But if she if they have another season that has a bunch of
Survivor people on it, is she going to play the game again where she
plays with Survivor until it no longer benefits her and then continues to play with
the Vets. I think at some point she'll be she'll not be Survivor anymore
and she'll be challenged. She'll be a VET. Yeah, I definitely,
Yeah. I mean this might be that that time. Yeah, because really
I think I mean, Zach, I think you're right for a few If
she's taking into future seasons into account, I think she made the right move.
If she's only talking about this season, I don't think she did because
now she's at the bottom of a bigger alliance, so at the bottom of
two well yeah, the bottom of the bigger alliance, but floating. Otherwise,
she was going to be at the bottom of either alliance. But better
to be at the alliance. Better to be at the bottom of a four
personal alliance than a seven personal alliance, you know. Yeah, in my
opinion. For Michelle's part, she says that she wanted to keep Cassidy around
because she's the only one that she's confident that she could beat in a in
a final. So she didn't want this to be a girl's day because she
wants Cassidy to stick around. Uh, that makes sense. I guess.
I don't know. Sure, maybe, yeah, maybe, I guess.
I don't know. Do we think Michelle is going to be that good in
the final? I feel like we don't haven't seen her perform much right,
For as many seasons as we've seen her on, she's not gotten far and
not gotten close to a final. Yeah, I don't know. Yeah,
I'm not sure, like what her skill set is. If you're like,
hey, spend the next forty eight hours running up a hill, you know.
I hope we get to see it. I'm very curious about that.
I definitely think you know, from Survivor and always seen on the show.
I think she has the puzzle skills, so I think as long she has
endurance, I think she could be a real competitor in the final. Yeah,
I do too. I think she's got the potential for sure. All
right, Well, with that, heads up, more of more of the
ladies for the girls we can have showed up. So if it starts getting
loud in the background, for me, let me now that's a mute and
yell at them just like I just did. So TJ comes out, he
flushes that toilet. The poop that comes out this time around is Chris yet
again. Guys, his fourth elimination this season, third elimination in a row.
Can you imagine having to just do this three fucking times in a row?
Crazy? I mean, he's getting up there in the number of elimination
wins. Now, he's proven himself over and over and over again. If
he continues like this in future seasons, I mean he's a real contender for
that to be that trophy holder. He reminds me of the Challenge greats that
are just so adaptable. It kind of doesn't matter the game, he fucking
figures it out. Like in real time. You see the gears turning and
he just sort of figures it out. It's crazy, and that's really what
you need to be at all time challenge best. You know. Yeah,
he needs to get better on his political and social games. But yeah,
he's doing well. But even if his is necessarily that bad, I think
it's just the fact that he's a rookie that's into Minority Alliance. Like,
I don't think anyone dislikes him. I think if he does a couple more
seasons, he'll be like naturally ingrained into the Veterans Alliance and like be in
a great spot socially and strategically. Yeah. I think he made some missteps
this season though, when he was going around and telling every group of people
somebody different to vote for, and well, on that same episode, that
same episode, Michelle Ard Michaela called him out for you know, no one
really knows where you stand. I'm trying to figure it out. You think,
Yeah, he definitely made some missteps. He needs to figure out his
political and social game. But if he can get that figured out, yeah,
for sure, I totally I fully get why everybody's ganging up on him,
Like, I totally get that he probably deserves it, but I'm also
rooting for him, and I hope he just fixes those mistakes and does better.
Next team, Next Timmer. Well, this elimination is called barrel Tag.
It is a game of tag. You are on two different barrels.
You've got to kind of navigate around this arena, and whoever tags out faster
is the winner. So it's basically tag and Flora's Lava mixed together. Yeah.
I kind of like the game. Really. It didn't say this on
the episode, but it has since come out that if you're the runner,
those barrels were actually heavier. They were weighted at the bottom to give the
the tagger a little bit of an advantage. It's harder to run away from
the tagger. It kind of makes sense otherwise you'd think this could go on
for fucking ever, you know, if they're both exactly the same weights.
Yeah, I don't know, not much to say. It was a really
fast elimination round under two minutes from each person. Yeah, Chris uh use
the strategy of getting the side barrels and Donkey Kongum Tyler, which was kind
of fun. It was cool to watch. I don't know how much effect
it had. I guess it could have slowed it out a few seconds,
and that's kind of all he needed. I guess we do we think that
the times were actually correct. I don't know. He looked like he was
going fast when it was and Chris's turn and just grunting like a fucking maniac.
Now did that sound like a free drink? Come down the road?
Now? Did that thing you see? Tim say how much the barrels weighed?
Like the different barrels. No, it just said that they were they
were notably different. That there was definitely like an adjustment period when you had
to get on the opposite barrel. Okay, because I had an idea of
what I thought Tyler should have done, But it depends how heavy the barrels
are. What should Tyler should have done? So I thought, like one,
because Chris was hauling at once he got close enough, I would if
I thought, I would have stood on one barrel and then like when he
got close enough, I would have picked up my other barrel and then like
used it to push him backwards off of his because you know, TJ said,
you can use this stuff on there to like, you know, stop
hill. However, so I would have like pushed Chris off of his poll
use it like a battery. Yeah, I wonder if there were rules around
You can use it however you want, but you can't touch the other player,
because they I mean, they always have in games like that. They
always have those rules that we don't ever hear, but the challengers here,
so that was part of its. Otherwise, I think it's telling that when
Chris could throw barrels, he threw them on the ground. He didn't even
seem like he was aiming for Tyler's barrels. He looked like he was just
throwing them on the ground to put some distance in between them and make an
obstacle, but not to knock him off the thing, you know what I
mean. I don't think they wanted them throwing barrels at each other. Yeah,
And I don't know about yeah, throwing a barrel because especially they're heavy,
that could hurt. But like if you're just like using it kind of
like to either push them off or just like keep them out of arm's length,
and like, well you can't get around the barrel music to keep you
from touching me right. Yeah, I'm not sure, but I mean this
was a cool elimination. I like I like seeing Chris Winn because I just
because I just do. Yeah, he stopped this one. I mean,
I think I would like to see Tyler Winn, but I like both of
them, so good outcome either way. I think Chris winning is a better
story. But you like Chris winning because I'm tired of Tyler being there,
thank you. Yeah, we talked about it last week, like his personality
has just been oh look, there's a cute girl. And I don't know,
I feel like we've gotten a lot more from Chris and he's been more
enjoyable to watch totally. I was just gonna say that to you, Zach
is that you probably like Tyler from Big Brother because I've I've heard I've seen
a lot of people online saying that they love Tyler as a guy that didn't
watch Big Brother and only the challenge. Tyler can just go fucking die.
I don't care. I don't know that guy. Well, you know this
has not said or done anything impressive to me. We know who does seem
impressive. Well that's a bit harsh. Now, I think wasn't impressed with
Tyler. It seems like TJ was he said he was chill, he faced
chill, and I hope, I really hope I see you back in the
future. So he seems like I got the TJ stamp of approval. Yeah,
we forgot to mention. TJ called the challenge this episode sick. This
is really sick child. Yeah. I feel like it's this pretty typical t
J thing. Do you guys think, all right, I've been thinking about
this weirdly. Uh, do you guys think that when TJ is like seventy
years old, he'll call things sick? Probably? Yes. Do you think
his grandchildren would be like Grandpa, that's fucking old man talk. That's like,
that's like when Joe Biden says malarkey, it's the same thing. Yes,
So we're seeing this in real time. This TJ as a twenty five
year olds would stay sick and we were just like, oh, that's cool.
TJ's awesome. Now TJ is like forty five and saying sick, and
it's like, TJ, you gotta grow up, dude. I never think
that. I mean, I feel like it's also part of the and maybe
I'm completely off based on this, I feel like. It also falls into
the BMX and extreme sports genre of talking. Yeah, City says TJ.
Probably where's his high school letter dracket? Still? I mean, I wouldn't
blind him. Why is J? Why are you him? He doesn't wear
his high school letter jacket. He wears any medals that he has won in
the X Games. Letter jackets are cool on the way they're hating m hm.
Okay, Case said he did say that season thirty nine is the sick
at season. Yeah, so, yep, I think about that because I
still call me, I still call my friends dude, and I feel like
I should start phasing that out. Yeah, I say dud a lot.
It's like I'm almost forty four years. I'm almost as old as Wolfield.
I know. It's like I'm too old. I gotta I gotta phase out
duter right, I'm too old for that. You should be listening to Glenn
d is a weird one. That's that's a that's an old one. Sometimes
sometimes I throw on an El du Ano. I'm not into the whole brevity
thing. Yeah, you're a bow wolf. You got it, Thanks Wolfie.
All right, so we we at the end of this. Yeah,
I'm done Chris. Yes. Oh he does cry. On his way out.
He says, it's just so hard to be fighting alone this long.
But I'm still here. I mean, he did do his Survivor season and
this by himself, so you can toughen up a little bit. Come on,
Chris, Yeah sure, all right, Well head over to challengepot dot
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our Patreon All right, so we have one tier. It is five dollars
a month. With that five dollars, the first thing we do is say
your name, so thank you to Elena, Alvin, Caroline, Christine,
Christopher, Cindy, Emily, Greg, Jamie Joker, Julie Martez, Patty,
rolled in, Ryan, Samuel, Sarah, Sarah, Scott, Seth's
check, and Stan. I figured out how to properly filter it, so
I think I got it right. You also get access to the discord,
which is a lot of fun. I post these weird challenge videos that I've
run across from MTV Challenge, so I've reddit you should look at those.
You can watch this live, although anybody can these days. But I send
the invite out to the Patreon users. I don't know is that it that's
it for Patron. I think that's it. Sure yeah, Deman, I
reviews him. We surely do. We have two new ones. Snarled at
two three four says favorite Challenge recap. I've been listening to listening for a
few years, always one of my go tos. After watching a Challenge episode,
the guys cracked me up. And Carlin is a mediocre addition. Oh
kidding, he says, a great addition, great addition. Oh well,
thanks, I would have been fine with mediocre too. Uh sorry, sorry,
Brian misspelled. Josh is one of my favorite challengers. You believe that
fucking shit. But nothing makes me laugh more than when you do his impression.
It's the best. I'm hot, No, he kind of is.
And then we have another one. It's a four star review from Barry four
four four four two says fun listen. I tune in every week and the
show is very interest interesting and I'd like to hear everyone's takes. Carlin has
been a mediocre addition, No, he says, great too, don't worry,
and really makes the show more interesting. Zach, take off your headphones
for a second, Zach Wolf, we shut that fucking thing off. Hol
On, They need to bash bananas. Let me go for a second.
No, it's bashing you. I am not a fan of Zach. Sorry,
Zach, but we've all gotten hate. We've all gotten hate on the
podcast. It's just your tild not a fan of Zach. Not much to
add. And the Johnny Banana's obsession is so grading but overall funny podcast.
And I like that they go through the show chronologically. Love the Josh impression.
I'm still hard. That's it. Well, Zach, welcome to the
club. Man. I think me and Wolfie have gotten our fair share of
negative comments. Yours is coming, Carlin, don't you worry. This is
my first negative. So I'll just go back and read all the people that
like said how much they love me when I first joined. That's what she
got it too, man, Just you know you're gonna You're not gonna make
everybody happy all the time. See Tim said that we had two reviews and
they called me both out my name, and I one hundred percent thought that
it was going to be something along the lines of like, oh, I
can't believe she called out Republicans. This not the other she sucks. I
hate this. Well, they did spell it c a r L. Yeah,
so they might have been talking to Carlin, they might have been talking
to George. Yeah. They also said, you know that Josh is a
fair challenger, So how good of taste do they really have? Oh?
Snap, Carlin, how does that feel? I'm not great. I mean,
you think you think Josh has a has a fighting chance, so I'll
get a judgment, do you well? Carlin? I just want to say,
you said you said Josh would never make a final. We are so
there, we are right there? Okay, so I did. I did
listen back to that episode and I realized at the beginning of the episode I
said he would never make a final, and at the end of the episode,
I never I said he would never win a final. All right,
So what is it standing by? He will never ever make a final,
make a final, make a final? Okay. I think that he is
one of those people that they will bring to the end and they will cut
him at the end. I think I'll make I think I'll make a final.
I think he most definitely will never win the final, but I definitely
didn't I'll make it. Whether if people just take him to the end to
you know, because they think he's easy a beat or like even if he
goes into that last simination, Well, if he does this for ten years,
you tell me he won't like Luke Win his way in at least once
I'm in, Maybe what do I have to what do I have to eat
too? If he makes it? Thinkin that it's an Alaska like native delicacy,
where like once they like clean all the fish, they take all the
heads, the tails. They put him in a bucket filled wall. He
buried underground for like sixty days to ferment, then eat it like soup.
Do you have you ever had that? I have not? M hm shocked.
He's active. So we do have a couple of things. First off,
yesterday Wes and his wife had their second child, Lucy Jean. So,
oh, the dog is the first child, right, isn't this their
first actual human kid? I could beat Okay, maybe that's I think.
I'm pretty sure this is their first and the dog is the first. I
saw him referred to as the second child, but that must be sensence dog
Annah. Yeah, yeah, and her name is Lucy. She's so he's
a girl dad, which I'm a big fan of girl dads. We congratulations
and that's very exciting. I love old white lady names like Lucy. I
have a niece named Lucy. Yes, and then and then what's your what's
your second thing? Because I need to I need to go. I'm gonna
be okay, let's urry this so we have a sad Nelson update. Nelson's
ankle broke again. He went to me with the doctor who said, most
likely they what do you do? It just naturally broke. It wasn't healing
right, and the doctor said they're probably there gonna have to fuse it into
place so it won't bend anymore, or he might have to get pot amputated.
That sucks. Yeah, that sucks for him, just on a life
basis. I mean, he's definitely never coming back to the challenge now,
but back that sucks. That sucks on a life basis. I'm okay with
him not coming back to the challenge. I was never a fan of his.
I mean, finally someone else I also love. Yeah, I guess
it's true. You've always said that you don't like him, and I have
always agreed with you. But I am every time I have agreed with you,
I have been behind a computer screen and not I am not a Nellie
fan. I'm him. I love Nellie even if I didn't, like I
would. I never want to see anyone leave the show like for medical purposes,
Like everyone should be able to go out on the No. I mean,
that's an awful reason to have to leave the show. Yeah, that's
everything. But I will say, you know, we've had people on Survivor
who have competed with prosthetic legs, So maybe we could get Nelly on there
with a fake foot if anybody, But Survivor is not like a you can
win Survivor without winning a physical competition. That is not true of the challenge.
It's I mean the finals are always Yeah, the finals are always going
to be a you need to run for multiple miles. And even if he
gets to a point where he has it, if he does get amputated and
he has a prosthetic lamb and he is able to run long distances, I
don't know that he is going to be able to gain that ability in that
short period of time to be able to then compete with all of these people.
True, even if you can't win, I'd left to him from back
to one more season. That way he could least leave on his own terms,
not not through the injury. Yep, I'm good without it. I
feel like, yeah, I don't want to see him Bay. It's unfortunate
that he's leaving for this reason, but I don't want to see him again.
Heartless, heartless. Carlin, you're just like MICHAELA is just all like
logical and no emotion. No emotion on that one. Ye, it happens.
It's called Carlin Vulcan. Yeah, hey, everybody, thanks for stopping
by. I guess for this episode of Challenge has been Bran Big Un Sweet,
Zachie Bananas, Live Long and prosper Carlin san Diego. It is Josh
probably said, look at me, I'm all oiled up. Charlotte Rue,
but Charlotte un Charlotte with Charlie, Charlie and a real study