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Our guest this week on Veterans Chronicles
is Holocaust survivor Henry Greenbaum. The impact

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of the Holocaust on his family is
staggering and we are honored to have him

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with us in studio to share his
story. And mister Greenbaum, thank you

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very much for being here. My
pleasure tell our listeners and our viewers when

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and where you were born? Bob
was born April fourth, nineteen twenty eight.

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I called from my family of nine
children, star Jovids, Poland.

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It was seventy five kilometers ato Warsaw. Where were you out of the nine

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children? It was before the Nazis
invaded Poland that one of your sisters went

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to the United States. Correct,
she came here in nineteen thirty seven.

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In one of my responses of that, when was my brother, my father's

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brother, Charlie. He had two
brothers and a sister, and the immigrated

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to New York and nineteen old four. It was easy to come to this

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country in those days. In nineteen
thirty seven when she left, was it

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because she was worried about Germany?
Or was it for different reasons? No,

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just a different reasons. Tried to
make a better life for herself.

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We all tried to come here,
but the immigrational OSMO kind of tough before

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the Nazis invaded. What was your
childhood like? My child was just a

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normal upbringing. I went to public
school. I went to Hebrew school and

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played a lot of games with other
children, mostly soccer. Was there any

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animosity towards the Jewish families before the
Germans and what? I don't remember anything

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like that. I don't think we
had that m chanta Semitism in my town

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too much. They were worries.
Your father was worried long before the invasion

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that it was coming. Yes,
he got us jobs in the munition factory.

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My three sisters and myself already working
in the munition factory. You're just

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ten or eleven years old. I
was twelve years old, twelve years old?

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What was that like? It was
good. I mean I looked forward

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to it. If I didn't go
to school. I went to the factory

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to work mostly at schools until they
identified us with the yellow staff David in

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the front and then the back.
They put the yellow saw on us and

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we came to school. The teachers
said, no school for Jews anymore.

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You can't come to school anymore.
But Hebrew school. We finagled around somewhere

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somebody else's house. He were able
to keep it up for a little while,

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even before the Nazis came. You
suffered a major tragedy when your father

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passed away. Yes, two months
before he passed away, he's going he's

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the one that made a living in
the tailor's shop. But the older brothers

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and the other brother. But then
one of the was drafted in the Polish

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army and he had to fight the
war with Germany. The other brother was

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home with us, so we thought. Mom thought that day will take over

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the business and run it the way
we were made a living. That the

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big of a deal. But nevertheless
we had a shop to take care of.

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People come in, they want to
fix things brand new or maybe shortened,

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maybe lengthen let out again. And
also the girls would come in two

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with ladies close and Mom would have
the girls helping along with that. Had

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your father trained them over the years, Oh yes, I'm sure he learned

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the two older ones. My job
was very easy. I had to keep

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the eye in gold hot. In
those days, we didn't every electric irons.

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We had iron with a hollow tummy
and it was filled up with coal,

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I guess, and I had to
lay on the floor with a piece

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of corboard paper. It either blown
out of my breath or either moving along

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get some air started so the iron
get hot. If I didn't go to

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public school. Tell me about September
first, nineteen thirty nine, when the

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invasion came. What did that mean
for you? Well, I was,

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I was actually scared, but Mama
showed us she remembers World War One that

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they didn't bother us too much.
The Jewish people now and then you know,

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somebody got beat up. How did
you experience the invasion? When did

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they come to your town? Oh, when they came to my town.

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We wore on a farm then,
and my father passed away. God Mom

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got very protective, especially over the
girls. And the one brother was only

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home with us, the oldest brother. The other was with the during in

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the Polish army. She got a
horse and buggy for my neighbor and they

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took us ten miles away onto a
farm. And the farmily knew us because

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he would bring every Thursday eggs butter
or to our either he was on the

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marketplace or sometimes he would come in
if he had some work to do.

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And they put us up for three
days, and by they were invading my

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town, except them by the ten
I think when they took over the town

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and my mom told the girls they
can't go nowhere. They had to stay

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put in the home, and she
gave all the protection they need. Did

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little did she know what was waiting
for her that she cannot give her any

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protection at all. If the girl
had or free to go, maybe they

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can find a job on her farm's
aware, but she didn't let no one

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leave. They had to stay put
there and with the protection of her.

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And then while we were there on
the farm put for two days, we

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were eating our breakfast outside. The
farmer gave us bread and butter and we

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had to think of a tomato off
the vine. And if you finished that,

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you're a good breakfast. You were
not hungry. And we say that

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for two days, and we heard
all the commotion going on in town because

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we were only ten miles away,
so we heard the bombardment and all that

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going on. But she didn't want
us around there, so no ladder was

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got hurt in two days. On
the second day, when we were eating

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our breakfast outside, we saw I
approaching I soldier coming our way, and

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we didn't know who the soldier was. The Polish was Russian was the German?

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We didn't know. As they got
closer, my brother knew of him.

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They knew each other like friends.
They either from school or the either

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he was a customer in our shop. He was a Polish uniform, a

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soldier, had a lot of medals
on him, so he was not a

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private. He escaped from the Germans
in the Upsite direction, away from the

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Germans family in my years, he
got close him. My brother addressed in

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by his first name, and he
called my brother by his first name,

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and then he says, so him, where are you running away from?

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He said, I'm running away from
the German army and on the Upsite direction,

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so I'll be free. So my
brother asked him, is it okay

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if I go along with you?
And I, of course, I didn't

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like to hear that. My oldest
protector. I didn't think bombs will give

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me that much protection or the girls
who will give me any protection. It's

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my older brother. I thought he
was a hero in my book, but

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he decided to run away and I
didn't like that, so I chased that

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to him for a couple of miles. Every time I lifted my head over

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the bushes because we want a farm, he would say, go back to

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your mother, go back to your
mother. And I did listen to him

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because I was mad at him.
Why he was doing that. Then the

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Polish soldier turner are in the elder
be real loud. You're too young.

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You cannot come with us. You
better go back to your mother. I

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said, okay, I her.
I ran back a couple of miles and

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told my mom what happened. She
was upset. Dave run away. First

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they came out of my mouth.
Who's going to make a living for us?

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Oh? She started crying, carrying
on, and the girls assured that

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that they're going to help three girls. Then you out to sew and you

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know I can only make they are
in heart, that's all likely, And

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we settled for that, and then
she calmed down. My sisters said they

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could work on the man's clothes as
well as they're tailoring on ladies clothes.

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Not to worry about. And on
the third day we picked up and we

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went back to our house where we
had to come through the at the market

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place, and there I saw a
picture of ten people hanging like on a

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spring, you know, a swing
without the change. Bodies were hanging.

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Ten people, civilians were hung.
And I asked, my mama said,

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is this what they're going to do
to us? She says, no,

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no, no, no. Those
were the Intelli against their people. They

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were the lawyers, the doctors,
very smart people from the town or maybe

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communists, they don't know. So
my mama showed me that they are to

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take a word for it, and
we by pass. And they were left

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him over there hanging a whole week
like a scarecrow. And then they took

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him off and they had to bury
the bodies because we didn't have any cremation

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yet or there shamers, so that
there felt better when I didn't have to

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look at when I went outside of
a walk or go to visit my sisters,

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I was able to go yet.
And then after they put us on

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the yellow Salve David, then they
were driving up at the trunks and grabbing

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us on the trunks and they would
take us out of the fields and we

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would have to dig trenches for them. And sometimes my shift in the factory

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was from three to eleven at night. I showed them the ID cards.

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I said, I work. I
have a job. Well, what time

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would your job eleven? Well,
we'll bring you back to the factory.

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You work for us, and then
we'll take you back. I said,

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okay, So one day or two
I had two shifts work over the army

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and then going for the for the
Polish governmental factors were still in the poor

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ships. And then until Herman Going
took over, they changed the factory name

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to Hermann Goering Factory. Sarah,
let's pause right there. We'll pick up

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your amazing story in just a moment. I'm speaking with Henry Greenbaum, Holocaust

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survivor on Veterans Chronicles. Welcome back
to Veterans Chronicles. Honored to be joined

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in studio today by Henry Greenbaum,
a survivor of the Holocaust. I'm Greg

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Corumbus. We've been just talking about
the Nazi invasion of Poland and the immediate

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impact on your family. How long
was it after the invasion that your remaining

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family was sent to the ghetto.
Well, it was the middle of sending

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it. They get those right there. We lived near the synagogue. The

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ultra Hasidic Jews lived near the synagogue. We were like the third fourth house

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from the synagogue, and the rest
was scattered all over. And one day

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they didn't let anybody go to work
for twenty four hours, and they bought

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extra soldiers in, extra dogs in, and they chased us out of the

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ghetto area to a more open field. And there we saw the Jews that

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did live in this area. My
two mirror sisters didn't live in our area.

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They lived somewhere else, but we
saw them at that market place where

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they marched us to. And then
when you walked up, you had to

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come through the soldiers and they were
directing traffic which way you go. So

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we walked up as a family,
myself, my mom, my five sisters.

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Three actually were married, but we
gave one open, gave up the

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little girl to go with the grandma
because she was already working in the factories.

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If we didn't know, they go
to take him and kill him.

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Wed to find out to left the
war that all those they were separated from

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us, able bodied people, pregnant
women, handicapped people, olderly people,

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people that just gave birth to a
child, carrying the little tiny tots in

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their hands, they were all separated
from us. The only ones that they

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lived there was able bodied people,
on the ones that worked in the factory

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and they had the IDs. So
I'm ma sure that almost half of our

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population they separate us from never made
it. And we found out after the

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war because we were looking for them
after the war, going to different camps.

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We came to bergen Belsen and there
there was the British soldiers. They

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freed bergen Belsen. I was freed
by the Americans on the death March.

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So I ran in to my first
cousin. She says, what are you

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doing here? Is that I'm looking
for Mom, your aunt, and I'm

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looking for your cousins with their children. She says, nobody from your family

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or my family is in this camp
at all. But I am going to

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Poland after it was all over,
after the occupation and looking for my brother.

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I said, why are you there
looking for your brother and look for

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your cousin for his cousin Zachary,
he was in the Polish army. So

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she and I told her, I
can I go with you? I'm too

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scared. I want to be with
Mom and staying there in the ghetto.

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They took them away. We no
longer saw them at all. To lift

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at the wall. We were looking
then and my cousin said, they nobody's

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here, so we stopped looking for
Then we ran into the highest people that

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organized or on this election. The
people that they survived, they said,

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they don't look where they were killed. Two days later, in Treblanca,

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they were all guessed to death.
Because treb Blanca didn't have a didn't have

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any more camps there, they came
by train. They were ordered to the

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guest chambered for a shower, and
then they were guessed to death, and

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then they were cremated. So that's
all that happened in That's all happened in

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true blanket. That's what they told
me. If anything else you can investigate,

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they must be more to it than
that. But as far as I

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know, the people that got there, they said, leave your luggage and

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will deliver it to you. So
the leg the luggage was left on the

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train and they went to take a
shower, undressed, take a shower,

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and they were guests to death,
and then they had to be buried,

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you know, but they didn't have
to be buried because they already had gas

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chambers there. You were sent to
a labor camp with I was right there,

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and and the ghetto from October forty
to October forty two, and that's

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when they had that selection. They
took the people away to Treblanca. They

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didn't let us go back into our
home. They chased us past our home

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for six kilometers uphill the extra soldiers
and the dogs. They were literally chased

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to So whatever volleyballs, if you
left and they in the ghetto area say

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that the ghetto, you could not
retrieve anything anymore. They chased you past

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the ghetto. On top of a
stone quarry. They built for us a

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slave labor camp with the tower and
the guards and the search lights and the

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dogs and the barracks. The barracks
will sitting stilts. And then if we

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arrived at our destination, the low
speaker came up, Attention, attention,

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you must empty all your pockets,
all your belonging. No money or gold

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or jewelry can come through the gate
other than yourself and your clothes. Otherwise

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we will kill you. So everybody
that didn't give away to the soldiers in

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the ghetto, they were able to
bribe the Eucreatians. They were not able

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to bargain with the SS guys.
But the Eucreatans, you give them a

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watch or necklace or bracelet. It
would begin bread extra bread, because in

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the ghetto we wore on or I
what they call it. They had to

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bring in our food, and every
week the food would get less and less

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and less like us and soap.
We did it about two weeks. We

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were going with the soap, so
we could not keep ourselves clean at all.

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And then we had arrived. Nobody
got hurt. Everybody furnished a little

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blanket about three feet wide, rolled
up, and then on the way to

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the barrack, when the barrack was
full, they each our signals. If

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it was full, we went to
another barrack, and the barrack consisted of

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a wooden shack with bunks three bunks, but the bunks were not put any

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straw or mattress or blanket or anything, just a plain wooden shelf. Three

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guys to a wooden shelf. We
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Should be comfortable. So if one
turn all on that the turn and

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the blanket that we used it was
all up like this anxious. They use

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it for a pillow like so the
board wouldn't press into your neck. If

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we stayed there for one more year, we stay there, and that slave

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lived became and we all returned to
the factory to work. Communition now there

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was all Germany already had it,
and then we worked for them, and

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then now and then they would take
you away from the immunition printing out anti

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air car shells to make springs or
maybe bullets, or any other things to

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teach you other than just stamping out
and the air car shells. So by

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the time you get through, you
could almost do anything that the Polish men

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did. Pause right there, We'll
come back and do another segment with mister

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Henry Greenbaum, survivor of the Holocaust
on Veterans Chronicles. Welcome back to Veterans

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Chronicles. I'm Greg Corumbus, honored
to be joined today by Henry Greenbaum,

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a survivor of the Holocaust. And
sir, you were just telling us about

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life inside the labor camp. This
was the labor came with her jobs continued.

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One of my sisters that gave up
a child to grow with Grandma because

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she was boy. She had an
idea that she worked in the factory,

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so she didn't want to, so
she had to separate it from the child.

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If she wanted the child, she
could have known gone with her sisters

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to Treblenca. They didn't know where
they were going in those days, but

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she had she could have done that. And by the way, her husband

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was already in America too. Her
husband came to New York set up a

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lady's shoe factory. And how lucky
could she have been with lady's shoes?

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Her husband honed, it would have
changed every half hour pay shoes. But

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she did lift to to enjoy that
because she was with me, but the

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other two sisters, and she became
a tailor. They were looking for volunteer

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tailors to work on the German uniforms, on the high ranking officers uniforms,

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and they told them, for six
months you're going to be running a uniform

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shop and you're going to repair things, and I'll tell you a week before

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when you should have us ready,
because all of you are going to be

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deported out of here. So the
tailors didn't like what they heard. They

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said they were deported. They didn't
tell us where, and you can't ask

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questions. And after the almost the
year was up, he came. The

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high ranking officer came to the tailors
and they told them, next week you

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as most have all these things ready, because all of you are going to

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be deported no more, no more
slavely they became here, but they will

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be sent away somewhere else where.
They didn't tell us. So what happened.

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They didn't let anybody go to work
for twenty four hours. They always

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have twenty four hours because of the
different shifts, So there was twenty four

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hours everybody was they may show everybody's
under one roof. And then all of

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a suddenly their trucks pulled up and
they picked up all their uniforms intact,

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and the tailors in the meantime organized
that escape out of there. Oh,

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we were guarded by the UK by
the Ukrainians and the German Nazis, and

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the dogs and the floodlights and their
guns they had. They were guarding us

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on the top of the tower.
At nighttime, it was pitch shock.

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All of a sudden, sister that
joined the tailors came by with a Jewish

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policeman. When I get back to
thee to the barrack, from by eleven

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to three, nor from seven thirty
to eleven, we'll mix up from seven

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in the morning to three in the
afternoon. But then I had another shift

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from eleven to three in the morning, then for three the morning to seven.

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Anyway, she told me, do
not go in when you're returning from

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the slave labor camp. Do not
go pain into the to live to the

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factory, and don't go into the
barrack. Rather stay outside and wait for

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me, and it'll be pitched dark. I was already fifteen years old that

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time, and she says we are
going to escape. She wouldn't tell me

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a week before, but that in
case they beat you up and they get

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some secrets out of you, I
don't think I would ever reveal it,

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but anyway, you never know.
So she didn't help me till the night

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before it. I'll come by to
morrow at eleven when you have the shift.

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When you come back, and I'm
gonna come in, we're gonna run

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out of fear. I was pitch
dark. She came by with a Jewish

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policeman that she had befriended. If
she held his hand, she grabbed my

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hand. If we were running maybe
ten feet away to the hall, and

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we were lined up chen in a
group. So the tailors alone took k

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of chen groups. There were a
hundred tailors, and then whomever they told

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lining up behind them in tendering the
group. But the only thing happened that

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only one can slip through at the
place where they came to run away,

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only one can slip through it at
the time. So the third party,

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the third of the ten who got
out quietly, they brought up a clippers

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from the factory and they cut the
wire open on the fence. So two

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people can or three people when you
arrive at ten more people can squeeze through.

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It will be faster. And that's
what they did the third party.

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Then they started breaking open the outdoor
fence, and there was a wooden fence.

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Even a hackle or a saw would
make no lot of noise. They

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kept breaking the wood to make the
whole bigger. They made it bigger,

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and then all of a sudden that
attracted the dogs because they were barking and

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screaming. The dogs and their guards
knew something was wrong, so they flipped

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the lights on. They flipped the
lights on, and people were running towards

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the escape route and they started shooting
at them, shooting at them. They

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were facing almost the hall too.
The soldiers, we were facing the hall,

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but we were standing up anyway.
Some we killed some mead he just

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injured, and some got out,
and all of a sudden, when the

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people stopped running out, already there
was quite a few, I do all

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remember how many a ten row more
whomever the tailors stoled, like a cousin,

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an uncle, a good friend,
yo, a relative or whatever.

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We didn't know that what happened.
So we were standing there waiting for our

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neck. And then they put the
floodlights on us, and they started shooting

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on us, and then they screamed, they screamed, some of the women

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screaming in the group to the police
Jewish policeman, what should we do?

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Should we proceed to the hall or
should be a suspicion to spurs. They

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could only kill one at a time. They had the rifles only they did

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have a machine gone, just a
rifle, so they could only shoot one

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at a time. And we all
started making back to thee to the barracks.

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I had mind not to go back
to my barque where I belong,

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to go into the women's barrack looko
for my sister Fager, because the other

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two one of them died of typhoid
and the slave labor camp and one of

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them high fever she didn't go line
up for work. They shot her.

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The ansare scrup and they killing her
it. So I only had this one

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sister husband in America and the daughter. Her daughter went by grandma to to

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Treblenca, so I hardly had the
one fagure. The one fager was not

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there, and then I could not
find her. So I said, well,

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I'm going to start. He was
running with the lights everywhere, but

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if you lowered your head, and
our barracks were on the opposite direction,

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and I ran in to the woman's
barrack, opened the door. The woman

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stayed there. They can't tak her
of thee of their barrack. You can't

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come in here. You're full of
blood. You're gonna get us all killed.

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I said, I'm gonna go get
you killed. I almost got killed

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myself. I'm not going to kill
you. They're not going to kill you.

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They don't know I'm here. Yeah, but if they catch you here.

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She was trying with all their strength
to get me out. I sat

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in the doorway and I didn't move. I said, you're gonna have to

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pick me up and throw me away
somewhere, but I'm not leaving this place.

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So when everything quieted down. People
stop already running back to their places.

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Those two guards from the tower had
their floodlights still going and anything they're

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so moving. They shot and then
all of a sudden people stopped running.

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What they were doing in random They
picked different barracks and the one of the

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barracks were Lady Barrack, and they
were shooting right through the wood. In

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that wood cannot stop a bullet.
The bullet went right straight through. The

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women jumped off their bunks, their
shell rother or bunk and on the floor.

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They went on the food. They
were sitting up like position like I

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was sitting on the door, sell
down on the bottom, and they sat

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down in the front of their bunks
on the bottom, on the floor,

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and I was I contact with every
one of them, and I looked for

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my sister Vega. I didn't like
the answer she gave me. She said

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she's not here. You left to
leave, no, And then I saw

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I ran into my first cousin either
the one I ran in. They jumped

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myself ahead of time in the other
camp where the British organized that, and

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she asked me to go to Poland
with her. She made it. She

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did not escape she made it into
this barrack and she said, I'm going

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to Poland. Do you want to
go with me? I said, either,

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I am not going to Poland.
I'm too scared. I even don't

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want to be here with the British
soldiers. I want to be with the

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American soldiers because I had a sister
in America, and I know if I

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get in touch with somebody else,
they might have leaped me into America.

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That was in my head for I
said I didn't want to go with her.

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And she left for poland left the
liberation. But before that we did

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the extra soldiers and extra dog They
put us. They did marshes back uphill

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their marshes for six kilometers to the
slave labor camp. But down they did

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not march her. They put us
on truck. They emptied out everything out

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of that barracks that were there,
make sure nobody everything was there, and

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they took us to the railroad yard
and they put us in those freight cars,

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one hundred to a car, like
sardines. No water, no bathroom

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for day, for four days at
least, no no bathroom, no water,

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and there was kind of hot in
there. You could hardly breathe in

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there and that little window that they
had maybe it was like fifteen inches by

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ten inches. Bob d y on
that and there, if you can make

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it over there to get a breath
of fresh air. You here had helped

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you. But some people were subbering. They didn't want to move away from

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there. That's where they're standing.
Eventually they got to fight. They got

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him away from there. I was
fifteen years old. I was sitting in

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the corner on the floor and just
dozing off. I said, let me

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go to sleep. I won't have
this, just promised in the trouble with

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the other inmates. I have the
trouble with I just sit quietly, and

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then later on the quiet on they
let the churns over to get a breath

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of fresh air. We were troubling
for like four days. When the third

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days we arrived at our destination.
And I was fifteen years old that I

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came to Auschwitz Birkenau at fifteen and
they had to the German Nazis had to

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all open our wagons from the outside
to let us off. I just want

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to go back to your escape attempt, because while you talked about the guards

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shooting at you, at the escape
attempt. You didn't mention that you got

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shot. Where did you get hit? I'm I'm jumping ahead on MYSELFE it

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got hit. A bullet hit me
in the back of my head. A

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bullet grazed me. They listed on
my bio bullet in his head, but

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the bullet never got into my head, just cut an opening, two inch

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opening right here. And I was
bleeding furiously. And that's where my cousin.

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When I was in the woman's barack, she says, let me help

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you. Your sister's not here.
I know more bunksy she was on because

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I looked for her this morning.
They were first cousin. She says,

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and let me help you with your
wound. I said, I was shot

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injured. She had a bucket of
water there, and she had the rags

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that they use in the barrack to
clean up something. She put it clean

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me off. She stopped the bleeding
without dry rag, and she told me

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to put her beret that she was
wearing on top of me. She put

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it on my head and the blending
stop. Then I got out of there,

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and then I got back into my
barack in the slave labor camp,

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and then they fixed the hole and
then they shut all the wounded people in

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the front of that hole. And
this is what will happen to you should

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you we get an idea and trying
to escape again, we will kill you.

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And we had to watch them killing
all the wounded people. There was

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the policeman. He was still alive. He was on the floor on the

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grass, sitting up upright position with
his cap on and the white band,

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I think, and he was sitting
up moaning and moaning. He was wounded.

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But I didn't see my sister until
he was killed, when he tilted

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over and he fell. There's with
my sister figure. She was dead the

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night before. Maybe she ran instead
of running back to her barraque, the

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two of them. Maybe the policeman
decided to go with her to escape,

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and maybe at the escaped her out. He was injured. She was killed.

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And I was fifteen years old by
myself, and I was put on

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those on those trains, and I
wound up and asked Fitzberg and her by

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myself, and I said, dear
Lord, you will have to watch over

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Menah. I am wholly alone.
H I don't have the sisters to the

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follow me. My three sisters on
the death I said they were going so

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you will have to watch over me
so I can come to America and be

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a good citizen. Here Holocaust survivor
Henry Greenbaum. In just a moment,

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Henry will tell us what life was
like inside the infamous Nazi death camp of

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Auschwitz berken Now. I'm Greg Corumbas
Veterans Chronicles will be back in a moment.

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This is Veterans Chronicles. I'm Greg
Corumbus. Our guest in this edition

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is Holocaust survivor Henry Greenbaum. Just
before the break, Henry told us about

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his arrival at Auschwitz berken Now and
his prayer for God's protection there. We

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now pick up Henry's story as he
explains, the first thing the Nazis did

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at Auschwitz was to dehumanize the prisoners, and Auschwitz broken. Now. The

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first thing they did is they took
away your name and they gave you a

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number. They gave you a number
on the arm. If I can open

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up my sleeve, sure, Okay. After this, they finally had a

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haircut. I didn't have a hair
cut, and in three years, no

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shower in three years because they didn't
give us any soap in the summertime.

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We would undress from the waist,
torn up a man and he didn't have

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any soap. You took dirt and
put it all over you like a mud

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bed, and the next one would
pump their water on you and cleaned you

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off. But that didn't kill the
lice. And the lizafestation was so bad

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that some people would die over it. And they also when they grabbed us,

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yeah, where we wore in the
yellow with the yellow stove, David,

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they would grab us on the truck
and they took us into the farmlands

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and we had to dig trenchers there
and they didn't tell us they the trenchers

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who would be for the people who
they killed to be buried. Because we

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didn't have any gas chambers or cremation, the body had to be buried.

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It's bad publicity for the Germans to
leave bodies all over the place. So

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whoever didn't line up for work and
came down with typhoid, the only thing

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saved you. Low fever, high
fever. I had low fever, my

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older sister low fever. But the
two of them in between, they had

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high fever. They couldn't stand on
their feet. One of them died in

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the barrack. But for that because
she couldn't get out at all because they

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found their dead. And then the
other one they helped them with the other

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soldiers. They put her on a
truck and they went to the next barrack.

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When it was full, they would
take him into the farm lens.

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It was only like six kilometers away, and they'd take him to the farm

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lens and they would undress them naked
and they would shoot him into the ditch

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they went, and if that grave
was full, they went to another one,

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another other one. They told us
when you dig the trenchers. The

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trenchers were not for graves, there
for military tanks to fall in in zig

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zag shape, because the war is
still going on and they were going to

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be used for tanks to fall in. After the war, we found out

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the farmers came out in squealed where
those holes war because they took the clothes.

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They gave them the clothes full of
lice. The farmers from ladies or

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mans, whoever were there. They
had to dry, undress naked, and

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that's how they were killed. Inn't
there so how many graves they were there

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that I can't remember, But they
could not wait ten days until that sickness

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would wear off if without medication,
if you waited, I was told ten

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days. We have no time for
ten days. We can get as many

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prisoners as we want, okay.
So they brought in prisoners from other camps

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they contested. They caught the typhoid
immediately they put them in on the bunks,

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so somebody was missing with other people
who were already invested with it.

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So they got sick too. So
there was an old wind situation. But

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for them just to kill the people
at the end, in quite a few

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they did. It's two of mine
sisters, they did. One of them

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died of typhoid, but the other
one they shot. But anyway, then

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after the third place, after Hacut, were so thirsty. For four days,

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we didn't have any water, never
mind bathroom, never mind food,

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just water. We finally saw water
coming down in the shower room. We

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had to undress naked, and they
finally gave us a piece of so in

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the hand. And I'm holding like
the handkerchief in one hand and drinking water

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that I was running down already running
from the shower and I'm just trinking,

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not just me, all of us
transport who they saved. We drank enough

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water so we won't be thirsty,
and then we clean ourselves up real good

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with the soap. You could almost
like rub off the skin that we didn't

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have the wash for so many years, like three years, not to wash

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two years, and they get on
one year and the slave labor camp,

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we could not get clean there.
So we so we were cleaned up,

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and they took away their clothes full
of lice. They put it on a

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conveyor and they goes through a tremendous
heat and that kills the lice. And

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then they send them back to our
camp somewhere where they bundled them up and

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they send them back to Germany for
recycling. And then they gave us our

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striped uniform, the striped cap,
the striped jacket, striped pants, wooden

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bottom shoes, canvas stops, no
underwhere of socks, and a trip with

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wide little blanket that we used as
a pillow. Every barrack was the same,

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built with their shelves and no metros
on it at all, and the

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three people to a bunk and that's
where we stayed. We got cleaned up,

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and luckily we only stayed in that
auschwitz Berkenale For six months. There

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was not really any work for us
to do except except helping along with the

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commando who was in charge to pick
up dead bodies on the compound of the

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Auschwitz Berkenale, and sometimes they could
lift it. We happened to be near

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us, we helped them with the
body and they would take those bodies for

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cremation and pile them up in the
front of the cremation house like a lumber

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yard. Bodies this way, but
as this way in the stinct was a

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high heaven from dead bodies. And
you're you're fifteen years old, and you

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didn't smell that smell where you came
from because people were shot and then they

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buried him and you didn't have that. And we did have it. On

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the train. Three people died on
the train from exhaustion. They never get

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off the wagon. The dogs got
in there and they could not revive them

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at all. They were dead already, I'm sure. Anyway, while we

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were in there, six months prior
to that, a German civilian men came

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into Auschwitz Berkenal. He came in
with two guards, two dogs. He

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chose our barrack because we were still
in working condition. We were not skeletons,

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yet he sent him in to chase
us out of the barrack. In

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the front of him, he looked
you in your face. Over here you

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go this way, you go right, left, right, left. Heave

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on. My transport was murdered the
same night. We didn't know that until

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all the people that were there before
us, they know the news what's going

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on. They've been there long,
maybe a year or so, so they

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know what's going on. He says. They were all killed, murdered because

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they had an order howmedity to kill
that night, or hammed, or they

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didn't have any room. I think
they probably had an order howmedy they need

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to dispose of. It's so not
to take away anybody. They don't care

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if you sleep on top of each
other. What would they care? Anyway?

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That that German savior, he was
like a life saver. He took

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us out of the Auschwitz Perkunar with
this guard and he marched us for three

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kilometers to a place called Buona Manowitz
Bunar Bna Manowitz, a sub camp of

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Auschwitz. That man was either a
manager or maybe a partner or owner of

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the ig Farbon company. If you've
heard that one the ig Farben Okay,

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this is the suppliers of cyclone gas
box sprays, automobile tires, bicycle tires,

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sentetic fuel. But the fifty that
that man, the civilian men pick

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was to build us or we should
build a road in the compound of the

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Ig Farber company, Cobblestoul Road and
a sidewalk. Three months we were building

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that, we did quite a preach, big chunk, and the supplies three

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00:45:42.840 --> 00:45:47.000
wagons were sitting on the rail may
have been five feet away if we had

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run out of this stone gold gap
at the train and help each other with

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cobblestone and pile up here with gray
or gravel or sand or emen whatever they

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00:46:00.119 --> 00:46:04.519
needed to build the road was.
And we were like three months at the

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time we're building that road. We
did quite a little bit, quite a

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few feet away, and all of
a sudden they finally the United States.

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That was already in nineteen forty five, the United States decided to send the

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Air Force to I. G.
Fabur and to get the rail system.

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So they would always bomb the rail
ahead of the locomotive. So when the

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locomotive got to the destination, you
had to stop because they would turn over

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00:46:38.599 --> 00:46:45.119
everything, and they were doing this
like three days in the row. On

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the third day they came back,
they demolished. On the first day they

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00:46:49.480 --> 00:46:53.840
came back, they passed by for
us. They had a push card with

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00:46:54.079 --> 00:47:00.360
picking up little papers from the ground
with a stick or something that they had

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00:47:00.440 --> 00:47:04.880
put the ground, and they were
to keep the compound clean. The British

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00:47:04.960 --> 00:47:09.559
soldiers they were pushing just a cart. They looked like in good shape,

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00:47:10.159 --> 00:47:16.360
shaving clean, their uniform both taken
care of. Their little cap was underneath

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00:47:16.480 --> 00:47:22.519
here under the shoulder. The shoes
were shined, and they came by us.

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00:47:22.159 --> 00:47:27.960
We they had a bunker in the
ig Farbbing company. As soon as

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the siren blow forever eight, they
ran to the bunker. The Jews did

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00:47:31.760 --> 00:47:37.000
not get the bunker. We had
to work through because they were in the

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00:47:37.079 --> 00:47:40.000
hurry to build a road for the
big trucks to be able to pull in

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00:47:40.639 --> 00:47:45.239
and take a delivery or bring in
some stuff. So they told us,

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00:47:45.320 --> 00:47:52.000
don't give up. This is American
Air Force bombing, so don't give We

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00:47:52.119 --> 00:47:55.360
never saw those guys again after that. We never saw them. We had

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00:47:55.400 --> 00:48:04.079
to work through because our guards bore
our workcouts or couples. The worst of

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00:48:04.159 --> 00:48:08.440
divorce. He hide himself behind something
when the bombs will fly. But he

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00:48:08.599 --> 00:48:15.519
expected us to lay the stone and
keep everything lucky. Nobody got hurt.

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00:48:15.800 --> 00:48:19.599
No sharpnings came our way, and
we did that. They came back on

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the third day and demolished everything.
The whole I G Company was broken up,

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00:48:25.199 --> 00:48:31.480
the pieces. The three freight cars
were upside down with a bomb upside

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00:48:31.519 --> 00:48:36.639
down, the wheels were on top. So no more, you don't have

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supplies to build a road with.
Even their road that we did was upside

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down. And they also later on
they had to empty deport us out of

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00:48:46.679 --> 00:48:52.960
Bunamanowiz. But so we had no
job in the IG and the other people

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00:48:52.119 --> 00:48:58.400
that had jobs before was the same
thing that we will put on trains and

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00:48:58.559 --> 00:49:06.679
go to another camp call Flossomburg,
six kilometers from the Czechoslovakian border. Chased

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us up literally up there two miles. We had to come in walk in

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because they had they had the rail
by two miles into the camp, all

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00:49:16.960 --> 00:49:22.519
demolished. They knew we wore on
those trains, so they never hit one

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00:49:22.599 --> 00:49:29.679
of our cars. They only got
their locomotive or demained rail ahead of time.

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And then we came to one place. We came into Bavaria after we

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00:49:35.840 --> 00:49:43.039
were released from Flossomburgh six months.
Into Flossomburgh a few months, but every

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month was like two three years,
you know, until you get out of

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00:49:45.679 --> 00:49:51.400
there. So we were told that
Flossomburg is going to be liberated by an

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00:49:51.559 --> 00:49:55.639
army. But who the army was, we don't know. We were thinking

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Russian because of Czechoslovaki, that the
would be closer to us than American.

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But guess what there was American soldiers
that came to liberate Flossomburgh three days before

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that. They found out with their
spies, they know each other what they

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doing. He said. Before the
American army got to Flossomburgh, they took

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all of us on trucks and they
took us into a rail and they put

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us on rail and they rode us
through Bavaria Germany. We all stood there

576
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a few months and the work over. There was nothing to do but just

577
00:50:38.519 --> 00:50:45.239
bundling up clothing from civilians who they
murdered, or maybe they came from all

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over, from people. There was
a story high. We had to bundle

579
00:50:49.480 --> 00:50:52.320
those clothes up with the rope and
they were sent to Germany. For a

580
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recycle, and the meantime we wore
on trains and then we hit a Saxonhausen.

581
00:51:00.239 --> 00:51:05.440
We all state that two nights there
and they set us to go loaded

582
00:51:05.559 --> 00:51:08.800
up again on the trains, and
then we rode the whole Bavaria, Germany

583
00:51:09.320 --> 00:51:14.760
on trains. No water was given
to us at all, no food was

584
00:51:14.840 --> 00:51:21.599
given to us. And then we
came to a place called schwartz Field in

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Germany. Schwartz fieldsway makes translation black
Field. We came there. Now there

586
00:51:30.159 --> 00:51:36.519
was a situation where they had a
car load full of Nazi soldiers on that

587
00:51:36.679 --> 00:51:45.280
Schwartzfield stair trip. The locomotives when
they came through the countryside very quietly,

588
00:51:45.800 --> 00:51:52.239
you heard them singing German songs and
drinking and livering themselves up and this little

589
00:51:52.280 --> 00:51:57.719
high hitler in this that whatever they
used. So we know there were plenty

590
00:51:57.800 --> 00:52:01.320
of them here that we three,
which it's not going to be a good

591
00:52:01.400 --> 00:52:08.199
sight. Well, anyway, Blackfield
was stopped that time. The air force

592
00:52:08.280 --> 00:52:15.920
had enough. That time they fly
low flying the American planes low flying.

593
00:52:16.400 --> 00:52:21.960
They told us they had to open
up the doors of our wagons. But

594
00:52:22.159 --> 00:52:27.280
that time the women had half cars
open class. They told us to jump

595
00:52:27.360 --> 00:52:30.320
over them. They told them,
the women to get off and run into

596
00:52:30.360 --> 00:52:35.519
the wooded area. He said,
if you they go too low, you

597
00:52:35.719 --> 00:52:38.239
run into the woods. If they
are up higher and away from you,

598
00:52:39.519 --> 00:52:44.239
run into the woods and drop ten
feet. You have to drop. Because

599
00:52:44.280 --> 00:52:47.960
they were already there on a tripod, mounted their guns, already, the

600
00:52:49.119 --> 00:52:58.039
Nazis and there again with the air
force that day. They bumped from the

601
00:52:58.519 --> 00:53:07.519
rail and the locomotive and every car
was bombed. Every car who survived didn't

602
00:53:07.559 --> 00:53:12.360
get off the car. They got
killed, but most of them they chased

603
00:53:12.400 --> 00:53:17.840
out. They get stapless, the
doors and the screaming rouse, rousing the

604
00:53:17.960 --> 00:53:22.039
dog. They got them out of
there. So I don't think anybody got

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00:53:22.159 --> 00:53:25.119
killed. Maybe when they were running
away, maybe, but I don't think

606
00:53:25.159 --> 00:53:30.119
so. I didn't hear a shot
fire. From then on, we started

607
00:53:30.239 --> 00:53:37.159
marching from Schwarzfield. We started marching
to different places. We didn't know where

608
00:53:37.239 --> 00:53:40.519
we were going. And the two
guards and the two dogs were guarding us.

609
00:53:40.840 --> 00:53:45.880
One was a Ukrainian and one was
a Nazi soldier, and they were

610
00:53:45.960 --> 00:53:51.679
guarding us. They ran our supplies. So they located a farm because they

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00:53:51.840 --> 00:53:54.599
the dogs need to eat, They
need to eat they located a farm.

612
00:53:55.079 --> 00:54:00.400
The farmers German. They're German.
They look at their eating. We were

613
00:54:00.480 --> 00:54:07.360
eating leaves or bushes who dropped in
the late march. The bushes wore,

614
00:54:07.840 --> 00:54:12.719
they were already dead, but the
leaves fell off, brown leaves and soffened

615
00:54:12.760 --> 00:54:15.920
in their mouth to shoot them up
in gale grabs some water from the creek

616
00:54:16.440 --> 00:54:21.280
because we had a ball for soup, but we didn't get an his soop.

617
00:54:22.159 --> 00:54:24.840
We would get the water off the
creek and drink the water to wash

618
00:54:24.920 --> 00:54:30.199
those leaves out. While they're eating
a six scores meal. To get one

619
00:54:30.480 --> 00:54:37.039
a raw potato. We the marches
got one potato and water to drink at

620
00:54:37.079 --> 00:54:40.920
the wait till they finished eating.
The dogs in they finished eating, and

621
00:54:42.159 --> 00:54:47.599
we marched again. We march again
till the end of the week of outswit

622
00:54:47.760 --> 00:54:57.039
of March of nineteen forty five,
and also the twenty fifth of April nineteen

623
00:54:57.159 --> 00:55:01.920
forty five. They marches answer League
March March March. They can't. They

624
00:55:02.000 --> 00:55:07.280
didn't stop in the farm every day, maybe twice a week to stop on

625
00:55:07.360 --> 00:55:10.280
the farm. They took supplies with
him. We were not allowed to wear

626
00:55:10.400 --> 00:55:14.639
one portraito. You line up,
they gave it to you in your hands,

627
00:55:15.599 --> 00:55:17.639
and don't get rid of a theater. Chew it up fast, and

628
00:55:17.760 --> 00:55:22.679
they gave us some water to drink, and then we came to one spot.

629
00:55:22.599 --> 00:55:29.559
We stopped there and we no longer
marched anymore. After that, the

630
00:55:29.679 --> 00:55:35.800
two soldiers saw the American planes flying
low. They knew was Americans. We

631
00:55:35.920 --> 00:55:39.239
didn't know who the planes were.
We thought it was German planes guarding the

632
00:55:39.719 --> 00:55:44.880
army that was on the highway.
But guess what on the highway maybe a

633
00:55:44.920 --> 00:55:49.000
half of black away. We could
see if the tiesite, but we didn't

634
00:55:49.000 --> 00:55:52.280
know what marketing of the equipment was. We thought it was German equipment.

635
00:55:52.360 --> 00:55:59.079
But those two guards knew that there
were American equipment. So they had us

636
00:55:59.119 --> 00:56:02.719
sitting there in a circle. And
why they ran away from us, They

637
00:56:02.840 --> 00:56:07.440
saved their lives running away from us. They didn't want to Normally they would

638
00:56:07.519 --> 00:56:12.559
kill us first, so you can't
tell them the story what they did.

639
00:56:13.559 --> 00:56:17.559
But thus they left alone because the
American army was so close and when they

640
00:56:17.639 --> 00:56:22.800
gun fires makes a whole lot of
noise, and they would have been caught

641
00:56:22.880 --> 00:56:25.960
by the American for war crimes,
and they would have been charged with war

642
00:56:27.039 --> 00:56:30.000
crimes. So they ran away.
They must have gone on farm. I

643
00:56:30.079 --> 00:56:32.760
didn't see it, but they must
have gone on farm, took their uniform

644
00:56:32.840 --> 00:56:37.400
wharf, put civilian clothes on,
and they just another German. The Germans

645
00:56:37.480 --> 00:56:42.599
knew the war was coming to a
close, but for Henry Greenbaum and other

646
00:56:42.679 --> 00:56:46.360
prisoners, the story wasn't quite over
yet. In just a moment, Henry

647
00:56:46.440 --> 00:56:52.800
shares the rest of his story and
why it is vital that everyone remembers and

648
00:56:52.039 --> 00:56:58.360
learns from the Holocaust. I'm Greag
Corumbus. Veterans Chronicles will be right back.

649
00:56:59.639 --> 00:57:02.440
This is Veterans Chronicles. I'm Greg
Corrumbus. We now bring you the

650
00:57:02.480 --> 00:57:07.760
final moments of our interview with Holocaust
survivor Henry Greenbaum as he takes us through

651
00:57:07.800 --> 00:57:14.079
the immediate aftermath of his freedom from
German captivity and explains why the legacy of

652
00:57:14.159 --> 00:57:19.480
the Holocaust matters to every one of
us today. And we were left unattended

653
00:57:19.920 --> 00:57:24.840
for a few hours, and then
the main tank took off from the main

654
00:57:25.000 --> 00:57:31.119
highway on the military tank took off
towards us. The tank came with two

655
00:57:31.199 --> 00:57:37.199
soldiers on it. They parked five
feet away. The hedge opened up on

656
00:57:37.280 --> 00:57:40.599
the tank, if we were sitting
there. We said, now we're going

657
00:57:40.679 --> 00:57:45.199
to get killed for shoe. Now
they won't get killed for shoe, which

658
00:57:45.199 --> 00:57:49.000
still didn't know it was an American. Thank until the hedge opened up,

659
00:57:49.440 --> 00:57:52.559
and their hedge opened up, and
their beautiful man came out of the hedge.

660
00:57:53.159 --> 00:57:59.679
Crew caught America written here in a
uniform. Put his hands on his

661
00:58:00.000 --> 00:58:04.840
out he says, we are Americans, and all of you are free.

662
00:58:05.639 --> 00:58:08.920
I was seventeen years old by that
time, and I said, dear Lord,

663
00:58:09.840 --> 00:58:15.480
thank you for guiding our two American
guys with the ride the tank to

664
00:58:15.840 --> 00:58:20.880
give us back our lives and our
freedom. Thank you so much, But

665
00:58:21.039 --> 00:58:25.000
why did they take you so long
to give us our freedom back? The

666
00:58:25.159 --> 00:58:30.519
two guys he had one yelled to
the other part the dump out all the

667
00:58:30.719 --> 00:58:36.039
rations that you have on the tank. He got on the American tank.

668
00:58:36.360 --> 00:58:39.480
We got on the floor and try
to grab a ration. We always killed

669
00:58:39.519 --> 00:58:45.440
one another. So he stopped.
And somebody was still speaking English in our

670
00:58:45.519 --> 00:58:51.039
group and to translated from English to
Jewish. But he's talking about He told

671
00:58:51.119 --> 00:58:54.760
us to stop with the supplies that
you give them, and they line up

672
00:58:54.800 --> 00:59:00.079
behind the tank, not on the
side, but behind the tank. The

673
00:59:00.159 --> 00:59:02.400
two of them took us to a
farm. They took us to a farm,

674
00:59:02.920 --> 00:59:07.360
and one jumped off the tank,
opened the door of the farmers and

675
00:59:07.519 --> 00:59:13.079
the other one jumped off, and
they told us with hand language to go

676
00:59:13.280 --> 00:59:16.920
in, go in it, come
inside. But we were five years hungry,

677
00:59:19.559 --> 00:59:22.440
really hungry. I don't mean twenty
four hours. We were really hungry

678
00:59:22.760 --> 00:59:30.239
and thirsty. And we saw in
the front of the farmer three or four

679
00:59:30.440 --> 00:59:36.880
big pails or potato peelings, a
white flower on it. We never looked

680
00:59:36.960 --> 00:59:42.280
at our freedom, give us our
feed, our liberal hitters, our angels.

681
00:59:42.639 --> 00:59:45.239
We never looked at them. We
got down the floor on our knees,

682
00:59:45.800 --> 00:59:52.880
shoved as many as potato peelings you
can shoved and swallow. We cleaned

683
00:59:52.920 --> 00:59:58.679
those trays off, and then we
walked inside. We came inside and looking

684
00:59:58.719 --> 01:00:02.719
at each other like crazy easy.
They had a table for us. I'm

685
01:00:02.760 --> 01:00:07.880
sure the Americans had a table for
us. Maybe they told the farmer to

686
01:00:07.880 --> 01:00:14.039
line that up. That are tables
for us with normal, a regular food,

687
01:00:14.840 --> 01:00:19.000
beautiful, the delicious food. I
can't remember what, fruit cakes,

688
01:00:19.079 --> 01:00:22.480
cookies, whatever he wanted was on
the table. But they would not let

689
01:00:22.599 --> 01:00:27.920
us eat anymore. You had enough
for the peelings. You have to drink

690
01:00:28.000 --> 01:00:32.559
lots of water. And then we
had we heard voices two rooms away in

691
01:00:32.719 --> 01:00:44.360
the farmer that God please help us, doctor doctor dot please tell us save

692
01:00:44.519 --> 01:00:47.559
us, save us. We heard
voices. So the two angels that gave

693
01:00:47.639 --> 01:00:52.719
us our freedom went into the next
rooms. So what happened? They were

694
01:00:52.280 --> 01:00:58.559
liberated the night before, but still
two American soldiers, but these didn't know

695
01:00:58.719 --> 01:01:02.159
the group, and they told them
to get the doctors out here. He

696
01:01:02.400 --> 01:01:08.679
dialed. Three hours later, the
medics came out into that farm and they

697
01:01:08.800 --> 01:01:16.599
gave everybody medication in including they gave
that in the room deliberators. The people

698
01:01:16.679 --> 01:01:22.039
who were survived that night, there
was something wrong with the stomach. They

699
01:01:22.119 --> 01:01:28.679
must ovay eight and their stomach couldn't
tolerate normal food, or maybe they're over

700
01:01:28.760 --> 01:01:32.119
eight. I think they're probably over
eight, because the feelings didn't hurt us,

701
01:01:32.760 --> 01:01:37.679
which we just wanted to drink water
after that, and then I mean,

702
01:01:37.719 --> 01:01:40.559
they gave us enough water, but
they wouldn't let us eat at all.

703
01:01:40.880 --> 01:01:46.000
Anyway, the two angels got the
medics out there, and the medics

704
01:01:46.079 --> 01:01:52.159
came handed out medication and gave to
the people that were injured in that room,

705
01:01:52.639 --> 01:01:55.320
and I showed him the wound on
my head. I wouldn't show no

706
01:01:55.440 --> 01:02:00.119
one, no German ever saw my
head or except that Jewish man. I

707
01:02:00.239 --> 01:02:04.360
gave me aush was broken out cut
my hair the clippers. He says,

708
01:02:04.559 --> 01:02:07.400
what's this wound on top of your
head? I said, I was trying

709
01:02:07.400 --> 01:02:12.239
to escape with my sister and we
were in a Jewish policeman. They were

710
01:02:12.280 --> 01:02:15.719
both killed and I was survived.
He didn't say another word to me,

711
01:02:15.800 --> 01:02:19.599
and we were talking to yeards in
Jewish. He didn't say another word to

712
01:02:19.719 --> 01:02:22.960
me. And then then there was
the number first haircut and a shower,

713
01:02:23.360 --> 01:02:29.000
and then they didn't ask me any
more any questions. So so there was

714
01:02:29.079 --> 01:02:32.880
still a scab on the top of
my wound, and underneath was infected.

715
01:02:34.599 --> 01:02:38.599
He shaved part of my area where
the hall was, and he put medication,

716
01:02:39.119 --> 01:02:45.400
put a blade of bandage on there, and he had worked for three

717
01:02:45.480 --> 01:02:50.239
months. I took the banded till
I changed it. Maybe I have a

718
01:02:50.400 --> 01:02:53.280
month later. I can't remember that, but all I know they were with

719
01:02:53.559 --> 01:02:59.360
medication. They healed my spot.
All that the head is a scar,

720
01:03:00.159 --> 01:03:05.480
and everything was beautiful. That was
seventeen years old that time by myself and

721
01:03:05.639 --> 01:03:09.559
they said I weighed seventy five pounds, so it must have been a skeleton.

722
01:03:10.960 --> 01:03:15.840
So a week later on the farm
and they load us up on truck

723
01:03:15.239 --> 01:03:20.880
and they put us near frank put
a mine in Germany, a displaced person

724
01:03:21.039 --> 01:03:29.159
camp calls Altzheim is Alzheim with a
Z and there was organized by hol Noir

725
01:03:29.840 --> 01:03:34.639
and also by a high Us.
And we had three good meals a day.

726
01:03:35.639 --> 01:03:40.239
We had no guards with us,
no electric fencers, an open field.

727
01:03:40.280 --> 01:03:45.079
They took a neighborhood and they put
us into that neighborhood. This is

728
01:03:45.159 --> 01:03:50.159
where this house you eat, this
house where you celebrate, and this house

729
01:03:50.199 --> 01:03:52.480
where you want to play cards or
whatever you want to do. And no

730
01:03:52.679 --> 01:03:55.760
guards. And that's what we were
doing. Make sure you come for your

731
01:03:55.880 --> 01:04:00.960
food. We would like for you
to dome some meal because they wanted to

732
01:04:01.000 --> 01:04:06.800
get us in shape so we'll be
able to do everything humanly possible. If

733
01:04:06.880 --> 01:04:11.800
we stayed there for about a year. We stayed in that It took a

734
01:04:11.920 --> 01:04:15.239
year to get back to normal with
the three meals a day, and I

735
01:04:15.480 --> 01:04:19.840
was occupied by the Americans. But
later on, after the year was up,

736
01:04:20.440 --> 01:04:25.400
we were working with the High us, and they honor our people to

737
01:04:25.599 --> 01:04:31.320
find try to find my sister in
America. So the beautiful American soldiers that

738
01:04:31.440 --> 01:04:36.519
they had, there's no praise enough
for me to praise the American soldier.

739
01:04:38.119 --> 01:04:41.639
They were so kind to us.
They give me the shut off their back

740
01:04:42.159 --> 01:04:45.719
while we were sleeping. They got
up early. They woke us up later.

741
01:04:46.239 --> 01:04:49.760
Go wash. She said, take
a col shawer. I was always

742
01:04:49.800 --> 01:04:55.519
someone that, so you can hand
out the food. You know, if

743
01:04:56.199 --> 01:05:00.760
very good good American soldiers, I
like, I say, the best in

744
01:05:00.880 --> 01:05:06.440
the world. I think the High
US and the Honora people helped us located

745
01:05:06.639 --> 01:05:12.960
my sister. That cousin went to
Poland. She located the have brother in

746
01:05:13.119 --> 01:05:16.519
Lodge, Poland, and he brother
knew of my brother who was in the

747
01:05:16.599 --> 01:05:24.480
Polish army. So her brother visited
my brother and he told him that that

748
01:05:24.719 --> 01:05:30.000
I was liberated by myself. No
sisters in the wall, only by myself,

749
01:05:30.679 --> 01:05:34.840
seventeen years old, and I'm near
frank Port of Mines Alzheim. They

750
01:05:34.960 --> 01:05:40.079
came. He came three weeks later. How we came, I don't remember.

751
01:05:40.559 --> 01:05:44.159
Became a plain of my boat.
I don't that, I don't remember.

752
01:05:44.400 --> 01:05:47.639
But anyway, he showed up at
first thing. He came to me

753
01:05:47.800 --> 01:05:51.719
and we grabbed and hug and you
know, he was not that that I

754
01:05:51.800 --> 01:05:56.679
lost sight of him. I knew
I was looking and he said. I

755
01:05:56.800 --> 01:05:59.880
said to him, we have a
sister in America, but I don't know

756
01:06:00.079 --> 01:06:04.840
where. All our noise, I
tell these beautiful soldiers, the American soldiers,

757
01:06:04.920 --> 01:06:11.840
that they are in America, but
they can't find my sister. Do

758
01:06:11.960 --> 01:06:15.519
you have an address? He said, the best I can do. She's

759
01:06:15.559 --> 01:06:21.159
in the Washington area. And that's
how they found her. The soldiers talked

760
01:06:21.239 --> 01:06:26.400
to the Hona people and the highest
people, and they found my sister.

761
01:06:27.440 --> 01:06:36.440
And the only spelling differently was mine. They spelled at America gruble e nbaum.

762
01:06:38.239 --> 01:06:45.840
We spelled at the Europe gry nbaum. So between the y and a

763
01:06:45.000 --> 01:06:50.320
double, my sister would find the
two brothers. She found us. She

764
01:06:50.480 --> 01:06:55.559
said, those are my two brothers. She sent papers for us. Within

765
01:06:55.679 --> 01:07:00.760
a year, the pakers came.
I went back to their just person came

766
01:07:00.880 --> 01:07:04.880
later because the soldiers moved, moved, moved out. But I learned everything

767
01:07:05.280 --> 01:07:11.639
from the soldier, even even bad
language. I learned from the soldier.

768
01:07:12.400 --> 01:07:15.679
But my sister said, you don't
talk like that you know, you don't

769
01:07:15.719 --> 01:07:18.119
say those words. No, no, no no, So I said,

770
01:07:18.159 --> 01:07:21.000
okay, I don't know how to
speak English. I didn't know what they

771
01:07:21.079 --> 01:07:28.320
meant to say it. Anyway,
anyway, my sister found us and then

772
01:07:28.519 --> 01:07:33.920
she sent to York my brother,
the other brother who escaped with it with

773
01:07:34.079 --> 01:07:40.000
the soldier, with the Polish soldier. He escaped on foot, not all

774
01:07:40.079 --> 01:07:45.800
away with the soldier part of the
way, and he made it to will

775
01:07:45.880 --> 01:07:53.280
Know, Lithuania and to her there
and there they had a Japanese and bassador

776
01:07:54.079 --> 01:08:00.320
who was helping the ulto Hasidic Jews
with false passports. He gave help my

777
01:08:00.480 --> 01:08:08.920
brother to go to Manchuria with the
with their false fast forward. My head

778
01:08:09.039 --> 01:08:12.840
is picture on it, but their
false all the other information was false,

779
01:08:13.239 --> 01:08:16.359
and he got to Monjuria. He
said a telegram to my sister and he

780
01:08:16.479 --> 01:08:23.319
came to America in nineteen forty one, before Pearl Harbor. He came to

781
01:08:23.439 --> 01:08:27.720
America and moved in with my sister. So when we came to New York,

782
01:08:28.199 --> 01:08:32.359
not Ellis Island, but a different
port we came. My sister didn't

783
01:08:32.359 --> 01:08:38.239
show up. She was pregnant.
That acted told him not to travel because

784
01:08:38.279 --> 01:08:42.640
they can have the baby anytime.
So he said he'll go pick us up.

785
01:08:43.039 --> 01:08:45.640
He came picked us up. When
he got closer, I said,

786
01:08:45.680 --> 01:08:51.159
are you Dave. I have seen
him since September of thirty nine. He

787
01:08:51.399 --> 01:08:56.239
changed a little bit where we look
alike? What he changed a little bit?

788
01:08:56.560 --> 01:08:59.880
I said, are you the one
who ran away with the Polish soul?

789
01:09:00.680 --> 01:09:04.439
And you would not take your little
brother twelve years old? And I

790
01:09:04.520 --> 01:09:10.640
would have been an American nineteen forty
one instead of coming in nineteen forty six.

791
01:09:11.560 --> 01:09:14.920
Oh, you were too young.
I didn't know what to do with

792
01:09:15.079 --> 01:09:18.359
you. You. I thought maybe
the mom would be the perfect place for

793
01:09:18.479 --> 01:09:23.680
you be with the mom, but
my mom was separated with me. A

794
01:09:23.880 --> 01:09:28.880
year later we were separated. One
went to the slave labor came and one

795
01:09:28.960 --> 01:09:33.199
went to the to the other place, who were just a killing center.

796
01:09:33.920 --> 01:09:38.800
I said, okay, your brother, you're still my brother. I said,

797
01:09:39.000 --> 01:09:41.920
I'll give you in a hug,
but where you're going to take her

798
01:09:42.439 --> 01:09:47.000
to my sister's house. He took
our train and we left for my sister's.

799
01:09:47.079 --> 01:09:53.079
How came sisters? How shared the
head quick for us? Me and

800
01:09:53.279 --> 01:09:59.600
my brother Zachary that was in the
ple. Jamie and Dave the oldest.

801
01:09:59.640 --> 01:10:02.239
He was already have a room.
There was a four bedroom or three bedroom

802
01:10:02.359 --> 01:10:06.319
house in Cherry Chase in the Washington
area, and there he took us there

803
01:10:06.399 --> 01:10:12.600
by cap and she says, you
sleep obsessed. We got it was hardwood

804
01:10:12.640 --> 01:10:16.239
floors, there was no air conditioning
nowhere in the house, nowhere in the

805
01:10:16.359 --> 01:10:20.880
area. Fans, yes, two
fans on each side of the edtic.

806
01:10:20.960 --> 01:10:26.119
It was kind of nice, nice
and cool, comfortable where I came from.

807
01:10:26.520 --> 01:10:30.920
This was like a five star hotel. Absolutely, But what am I

808
01:10:30.000 --> 01:10:34.239
going to complain? And there was
it, and that was I was freed

809
01:10:34.359 --> 01:10:40.199
at seventeen, but I thought,
I'm going back to my freedom fighting to

810
01:10:40.359 --> 01:10:44.560
day. You re stale lives to
give me back my life. And I

811
01:10:44.680 --> 01:10:47.560
just could not help it to think
him and I told and I called him

812
01:10:47.600 --> 01:10:53.760
my angels, and I called them
my angels. When I don't remember when

813
01:10:54.319 --> 01:11:01.560
what the year it was when Bush
number two became present and and the Listener

814
01:11:01.720 --> 01:11:13.159
Auditorium. Vice President Cheney organized the
World War two veterans to come to the

815
01:11:13.319 --> 01:11:18.239
Listen Ditorium and there was I think
about five thousand that could fit in the

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room. At ten I don't remember. Homed was every sheet was taken in

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the front. All the generals of
the army was sitting in the front of

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the littorial and I was a little
bit scared, and I was supposed to

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talk, and there was my second
time telling my story. Now you're very

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active with the Holocaust Museum, Yes, a memorial museum in Washington. Tell

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our listeners what it means to you
to be able to share your story and

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what you want people to remember.
I want people to remember to both don't

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be bycestanders. Whenever you see anybody
is doing injustice to a human being,

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speak out. If you can't handle
it yourself, go here with your parents,

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go for your school teacher, principal, rabbi priests, anybody that can

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help. Don't be a bystander,
and don't bully anybody in your school where

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the person that can't help themselves has
to commit suicide. Don't do that to

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emity human being. And then make
sure they mainly make sure that their injustice

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has not done to any human being
that pain can't help himself, disfigured,

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he was created by God. That's
where he was created. So I know

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he was speaking on him in laughing
at him. So he commits suicide.

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And this is what I want people
to remember. That we'll keep talking as

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long as we got a voice.
If we told each other on their death

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on my that if you survive,
make sure you tell what they did to

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us, because you have a lot
of deniers that it didn't happen, to

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say it did happen. Well,
sir, it's an honor to have you

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with us. Thank you for sharing
your story, and thank you for making

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sure we never forget. Well you
mean to now you meet. Oh.

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I want to thank you guys for
taping alders, and I want to thank

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all the veterans that remember me me. I am very sorry that I don't

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remember what their names are. In
the Liberated US two Angels, Henry Greenbaum

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sharing his vivid memories of the horrors
of the Holocaust during our visit with him

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in twenty seventeen. Mister Greenbaum passed
away just a year later. I'm Greg

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Corumbus and this his Veterans Chronicles.
Hi, this is Greg Corumbus and thanks

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for listening to Veterans Chronicles, a
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