WEBVTT 1 00:00:15.640 --> 00:00:32.200 You're listening to the Getting Salty Experience podcast. Hello, Johnny Albany, I 2 00:00:32.439 --> 00:00:36.920 said it, Look who's back. Look buddy, you're still breathing. Look 3 00:00:36.920 --> 00:00:42.039 at him. He is, he's back. Fifteen hours, he's back. 4 00:00:43.039 --> 00:00:46.159 Anything. What did you get? Nothing? No, I didn't get anything. 5 00:00:46.159 --> 00:00:48.240 I passed on a lot of stuff. I was sending your videos every 6 00:00:48.280 --> 00:00:50.880 day. Yeah, yeah, I saw that one. I'm like, what 7 00:00:50.920 --> 00:00:59.679 are you doing? My god? No pictures. I don't get out of 8 00:00:59.679 --> 00:01:03.560 it. Send me some outdoors. I don't say pictures of the guy skipping 9 00:01:03.640 --> 00:01:07.000 to the forest. It's only a thirty two point. I'm going for thirty 10 00:01:07.000 --> 00:01:11.599 five. I'm making it up. I'm going back out. I'm going back 11 00:01:11.599 --> 00:01:15.040 out. You're going back out. December first, December. First, Look 12 00:01:15.079 --> 00:01:19.879 at that. We're having this conversation. This was it this morning, O 13 00:01:19.159 --> 00:01:23.239 God, today, Like I said, what do you actually do up there? 14 00:01:23.280 --> 00:01:26.879 Like when there's no action? What what could you do for like eight 15 00:01:26.959 --> 00:01:32.560 hours sitting in a tree stand bro Well, I don't understand that. What 16 00:01:32.599 --> 00:01:38.319 are you doing? I mean sitting there, eat up on twiddle, myne 17 00:01:38.319 --> 00:01:44.400 phone. He reads books, he does. That's why he misses the deer. 18 00:01:44.439 --> 00:01:47.799 And that comes shipping by, you know, no, never you're drinking 19 00:01:47.799 --> 00:01:49.879 a little something little, I have a little stiffer I take with me. 20 00:01:51.000 --> 00:01:53.400 But yeah, I come out. I don't spend all day in the woods. 21 00:01:53.439 --> 00:01:55.319 I come out. I go out in the morning and I come out. 22 00:01:55.760 --> 00:01:59.680 How many hours you stay there? You mean in the woods at the 23 00:01:59.719 --> 00:02:01.959 time, Yeah, yeah, I'm in the in the dark. Get in 24 00:02:02.000 --> 00:02:09.800 there about probably five thirty, and I stayed until around ten. Nobody cares 25 00:02:09.800 --> 00:02:16.439 about Oh if we placed it? I did you do over here? You 26 00:02:16.479 --> 00:02:20.800 kept it on track? Over here? You kept he kept it on the 27 00:02:20.879 --> 00:02:23.960 rails? Bro all right? God did he keep it on the rails? 28 00:02:28.800 --> 00:02:35.039 We diffuse of this yelling. Don's a little bit less show. I don't 29 00:02:35.039 --> 00:02:38.719 know what he was doing with playing commercials with no sound. But that's what 30 00:02:38.840 --> 00:02:42.080 I told you. That was little stream yoak that stream yard going on. 31 00:02:42.680 --> 00:02:45.080 She fumbled a little bit. He had a little fumble. Then he gets 32 00:02:45.120 --> 00:02:46.520 nervous. I can see it in his eyes. No, because I don't 33 00:02:46.560 --> 00:02:50.000 like making mistakes. I don't know what you're it was like the deal you're 34 00:02:50.000 --> 00:02:53.520 about to shoot. Probably that guy, old ship man, come on, 35 00:02:53.240 --> 00:02:57.680 because I hate that ship. How is the guy the department? How was 36 00:02:57.719 --> 00:03:00.439 he awesome. Right, I'm trying to get his his father to come on 37 00:03:00.560 --> 00:03:04.159 to him, and his father will be great. Oh you were saying that, 38 00:03:04.439 --> 00:03:07.840 He's like, that'll be he's like eighty five, I think or something. 39 00:03:07.080 --> 00:03:10.599 We got hit him with the line, right, you can hit him 40 00:03:10.639 --> 00:03:15.520 with that line. That guy, we got him before he's gone. They 41 00:03:15.560 --> 00:03:16.680 got you got on here. We didn't know how much longer he had. 42 00:03:17.039 --> 00:03:21.319 Yeah, oh man, I forgot about. Well, he'll be saying that 43 00:03:21.319 --> 00:03:23.960 to you one day, Ruffy. That's all right, and I'll left the 44 00:03:23.000 --> 00:03:27.560 same way you will, all right. Of course. Well we got a 45 00:03:27.560 --> 00:03:30.759 guy on who was there. He was Steve and he was doing it in 46 00:03:30.800 --> 00:03:36.840 the Bronx back in the war years, Bro sixteen seventeen. Never heard him 47 00:03:36.919 --> 00:03:40.439 remember the were you supposed to go to seventeen? No? Thirty three? 48 00:03:40.800 --> 00:03:46.199 Oh close, yeah, whatever that's in the Bronx double. This guy was 49 00:03:46.240 --> 00:03:51.000 there in the late seventies, Bro. He was doing it in the seventies. 50 00:03:51.400 --> 00:03:54.400 Fucking shot doing it in the seventies in the Bronx seventy seven to ninety 51 00:03:54.479 --> 00:03:59.319 nine. Yeah, man on the pipe, no less, I don't know 52 00:03:59.360 --> 00:04:00.800 if he was on one. I don't know if he was on during the 53 00:04:01.039 --> 00:04:04.639 I gotta ask him, we gotta ask him that if during the blackout out, 54 00:04:05.159 --> 00:04:08.599 he probably won. That was July seventy seven. When did he get 55 00:04:08.639 --> 00:04:13.159 on? You told me yeah, yeah, got mind. But we gotta 56 00:04:13.159 --> 00:04:17.160 play some uh some commercials first. So we're gonna try. Did you play 57 00:04:17.240 --> 00:04:19.480 with sound this time? Bro? Possibly? Let's see how it goes. 58 00:04:19.480 --> 00:04:24.079 I want to get iron money, will God, you really fumbled that. 59 00:04:24.160 --> 00:04:28.279 I mean, were you fumbling him? You just didn't have any sounds. 60 00:04:28.439 --> 00:04:30.519 Some of them had sound. I had a blank screen. I'm doing this 61 00:04:30.600 --> 00:04:33.560 on a day. Yeah, we couldn't see him. 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She had 110 00:08:46.200 --> 00:08:48.360 mentioned it at one time. I'm sure she'll tell us in the chat. 111 00:08:48.399 --> 00:08:52.159 But she helps us a lot with the likes. Lately, she's been pushing 112 00:08:52.200 --> 00:08:56.200 the group for like do it w W two? Where you get that name 113 00:08:56.240 --> 00:09:00.559 from? W I like it? W W two Girlrona washed their run out 114 00:09:00.879 --> 00:09:05.399 watching We Got Anything. He's in the background. Yeah, is he laughing 115 00:09:05.480 --> 00:09:07.600 or is he sleeping? He's got he's gotta he's giggling. You can see 116 00:09:07.600 --> 00:09:11.600 his body chuckling. He's left. You gotta let's get him in here. 117 00:09:11.639 --> 00:09:15.519 This guy was here. If you see his lid in the background, it 118 00:09:15.559 --> 00:09:18.000 looks like a like a Yamaica. It's a it's burnt up, bro. 119 00:09:20.000 --> 00:09:22.639 It's all pointed up like a beanie now on his head, yama You say, 120 00:09:24.039 --> 00:09:30.519 I got what's going on? What's going on? His wife is Jewish? 121 00:09:30.519 --> 00:09:33.519 I forgot? Actually, Johnso can't get it to bed unless he's wearing 122 00:09:33.519 --> 00:09:39.759 the yama cart had good hand. Let's get him in here, rookie, 123 00:09:41.200 --> 00:09:45.960 come on coming to the stage. Engine six to oh, Firefighter James Johnston. 124 00:09:46.799 --> 00:09:52.559 Right, he's there, he's right there. You gotta bring him in. 125 00:09:52.799 --> 00:09:56.320 He's here all right now, he's there. There, he is there. 126 00:09:56.360 --> 00:09:58.679 He is. Look at a handsome fellow with the mustache. He's still 127 00:09:58.720 --> 00:10:03.840 got the dish going bro at the mustachee. He's got the green berets wrapping 128 00:10:03.879 --> 00:10:07.799 the green beret wearing the back. Where's the green beret on his shirt? 129 00:10:07.600 --> 00:10:11.279 Was gonna said it was gonna wear the green beret for the show. Oh, 130 00:10:11.360 --> 00:10:13.440 he's got a lot to find out. How that happened? Anyway, 131 00:10:13.440 --> 00:10:16.480 bro, But first we got to get patriotic donds. Please here we go. 132 00:10:16.559 --> 00:10:26.039 We're gonna get the new one. Oh see can new see by the 133 00:10:26.200 --> 00:10:39.840 jonserly light, what so proudly we held at the twilights last? Please me 134 00:10:41.080 --> 00:10:56.200 whose broad stripes and bride stars through the PaaS fight for the red but we 135 00:10:56.240 --> 00:11:13.480 watch we're so good ellent Lee's streaming he the rockcket Raglan the bs bste he 136 00:11:16.200 --> 00:11:30.159 gay fruit through the night that I flag was ste there? Oh say us 137 00:11:30.879 --> 00:11:50.960 that stops spangled badd Where for the land ho the Free and the home of 138 00:11:52.000 --> 00:12:01.000 the bread. That's fine, Drea doing account one. We've been gone a 139 00:12:01.000 --> 00:12:05.279 while. Maybe you don't know a good one shoes anymore? Bro? Maybe 140 00:12:05.600 --> 00:12:07.679 maybe to go up there. Didn't tell you when you were away over the 141 00:12:07.159 --> 00:12:13.120 see home and get your fucking sh Sorry, we'll word of the day because 142 00:12:13.159 --> 00:12:15.960 we have a word of the day tonight. Bro. We haven't done that 143 00:12:16.000 --> 00:12:20.799 in a while. We do. Let me get what is ready? Yeah? 144 00:12:20.039 --> 00:12:31.039 Do it? Oh dad, I'm out. It comes to disclaimer. 145 00:12:35.639 --> 00:12:41.759 H you want straight up? No? No, no, dude, come 146 00:12:41.799 --> 00:12:46.200 on, what do you do? Come on? It's a family show, 147 00:12:46.279 --> 00:12:54.360 bro, not ho you know ho Ho, not, lady ho, my 148 00:12:54.519 --> 00:12:58.159 mind went demented. If you know what I means, you get a thousand 149 00:12:58.200 --> 00:13:03.320 barks, Oh, a thousand bucks man, we'll rookie his eyes. Just 150 00:13:03.519 --> 00:13:11.399 what actually on Jeopardy? Actually on Jeopardy? Hold, I don't know how 151 00:13:11.440 --> 00:13:16.480 you got the name, Then if I tell you, you'll know how I 152 00:13:16.519 --> 00:13:18.799 got the name, and you get the gen to get the diesel trying to 153 00:13:18.799 --> 00:13:20.399 figure it out by the end of the show. Well, see if we 154 00:13:20.399 --> 00:13:24.320 figured out if anybody in the chat knows what the whole daddy is you want 155 00:13:24.320 --> 00:13:30.639 me to I'll wait. There isn't that like a like a little chocolate egg 156 00:13:30.799 --> 00:13:39.200 cream or something? What my good, Jimmy, I thought you had to 157 00:13:39.200 --> 00:13:45.600 give a disclaimer before you started read it. My disclaimer is, since I've 158 00:13:45.720 --> 00:13:50.279 never let the truth get in the way of a good story, my disclaimer 159 00:13:50.480 --> 00:14:01.960 is I'm not responsible for the authenticity of my stories. Okay, let's go 160 00:14:03.960 --> 00:14:11.559 there. I was left to the right baby. You know you know what's 161 00:14:11.559 --> 00:14:16.240 funny about there? I was, is we one of my off I don't 162 00:14:16.240 --> 00:14:18.720 want to skip everything, but what did I have to reply to that? 163 00:14:18.840 --> 00:14:24.200 One of my officers, Phil Foul, great great guy? He started them, 164 00:14:24.399 --> 00:14:28.840 but he worked with John Mitchell, who was metals. Mitchell one of 165 00:14:28.919 --> 00:14:31.039 the most decorated, probably couldn't stay one of the most not deep, but 166 00:14:31.279 --> 00:14:37.279 metals all over the place. And he would start off with Mitchell would put 167 00:14:37.320 --> 00:14:41.159 it, you see it in the book what he did, and then Barrel 168 00:14:41.240 --> 00:14:46.879 would then say, I the smoke was as thick as pea soup, and 169 00:14:46.960 --> 00:14:58.720 I was twenty feet beyond comments. Who's this fowl you speak of? Little 170 00:15:00.200 --> 00:15:07.360 let you speak of? Pharrell Farrel was one of my first lieutenants sixty sixty 171 00:15:07.399 --> 00:15:09.399 engine. I thought it was the other Pharaoh from thirty one. No, 172 00:15:09.399 --> 00:15:15.080 no, no, full full. Farrel was an old time ah all right, 173 00:15:15.120 --> 00:15:20.039 speaking about old times, let's go back, way back. I imagine 174 00:15:20.039 --> 00:15:24.559 you were volley first, or because of your volley career, but let's get 175 00:15:24.559 --> 00:15:28.279 back to where you grew up. What made you want to be a finman? 176 00:15:28.399 --> 00:15:33.480 Any family on the job or what guy interested? You had no family 177 00:15:33.559 --> 00:15:41.440 on the job. I started. What happened was my neighbor Mike Kifer, 178 00:15:41.600 --> 00:15:46.519 who's related to Kevin Kiefer that Lou knows it's it's Mike was Kevin's older brother, 179 00:15:48.320 --> 00:15:50.399 and we went to school together. We were best friends. His father 180 00:15:50.519 --> 00:15:54.799 was in the one door farm, so I grew up in one tour and 181 00:15:54.840 --> 00:15:58.279 then when I wasn't quite eight, I was a little older. In eighteen 182 00:15:58.320 --> 00:16:03.200 I decided to join the one to a fire department. So it was a 183 00:16:03.240 --> 00:16:08.639 busy department. It was a very big department. We would get probably uh 184 00:16:10.159 --> 00:16:12.200 ten or twelve jobs a year, which doesn't sound like a lot, but 185 00:16:12.240 --> 00:16:18.639 it is for a fight department. And I joined in nineteen seventy and a 186 00:16:18.639 --> 00:16:22.840 lot of the fires at that time were in the Leaven homes. Because we 187 00:16:22.919 --> 00:16:27.879 covered one toil covered a big area. You covered parts of sect passive belmore 188 00:16:29.759 --> 00:16:33.759 passive leather Town, so we covered and then we covered down to Joel's Beach, 189 00:16:33.799 --> 00:16:37.080 which was fun for brush fires. If you're at the brush fires, 190 00:16:37.279 --> 00:16:47.600 I'm out rush. But the Leaven homes were unusual because what they had they 191 00:16:47.720 --> 00:16:52.320 had the oil burner was actually under the stairs, all right. They had 192 00:16:52.360 --> 00:16:56.039 no basements, right, They're all built up the slab a slabs with thel 193 00:16:56.120 --> 00:17:00.519 burner behind the kitchen kind of connected to the kitchen, and then it was 194 00:17:02.679 --> 00:17:06.920 it was the stairs going up to the second floor. So most of our 195 00:17:07.079 --> 00:17:14.000 fires were Levitt homes where the auburner would do something and malfunction some way start 196 00:17:14.039 --> 00:17:15.759 a small flying and it would lead up and it would go right up to 197 00:17:15.839 --> 00:17:21.000 the second floor you had. You'd go up the stairs. You'd make it 198 00:17:21.079 --> 00:17:25.240 up the stairs and either went right or left the penning or it was me 199 00:17:25.440 --> 00:17:27.880 at the stairs, and it was either a bathroom or no bathroom. So 200 00:17:27.920 --> 00:17:33.720 you had basically two rooms. And that's where we had a lot of leavit 201 00:17:33.759 --> 00:17:37.319 fires. And they were good jobs. I mean, they weren't just you 202 00:17:37.400 --> 00:17:40.839 know, one, two, three and they're out. They were good jobs. 203 00:17:41.039 --> 00:17:47.119 And what's kind of funny is when I joined I got into hydraulics part 204 00:17:47.160 --> 00:17:51.880 I was a teacher of pumps and a pump and it took me months. 205 00:17:52.000 --> 00:17:55.759 When I got in the city and saw the way fire you could push down 206 00:17:55.799 --> 00:17:57.559 the hallway, and I would say, you know, we had some good 207 00:17:57.640 --> 00:18:02.720 fire and went to why could we make the rooms like New York's, I 208 00:18:02.799 --> 00:18:07.279 know their experience and all that. But we me and myself, Billy Laws 209 00:18:07.319 --> 00:18:11.799 and we went to seventeen truck were rolling together, Bobby Hutter, who you 210 00:18:11.880 --> 00:18:15.480 guys know. We had Danny Perella who went to one to eleven. It 211 00:18:15.599 --> 00:18:18.160 was a tremendous fireman, and then went to forty four truck. We rolled 212 00:18:18.200 --> 00:18:22.039 together and we put the fire out. But it was nothing like when I 213 00:18:22.079 --> 00:18:25.720 got in the city. And it took me a while to realize. We 214 00:18:25.839 --> 00:18:29.000 had an inch and a half first of all, and we had the navy 215 00:18:29.119 --> 00:18:32.880 fog nozzles, so at the time they were putting out forty two gallons a 216 00:18:32.960 --> 00:18:36.240 minute. So when you had a room on fire, it took two or 217 00:18:36.279 --> 00:18:40.799 three lives to get one room now, whereas in the city the fourth quarter 218 00:18:41.359 --> 00:18:44.559 and one hundred and eighty gallons. You know, you're knocking down rooms. 219 00:18:44.759 --> 00:18:47.960 But here I am a pump instructor. And it took me a few months 220 00:18:47.960 --> 00:18:52.640 in the city to realize why the city was so much better. Just the 221 00:18:52.720 --> 00:18:56.640 mane stop coos. What was that? Was the chief from Detroit. Remember 222 00:18:56.680 --> 00:19:00.920 he's like, rock Well, baby, Rockwell, you got the Rockwell, 223 00:19:00.000 --> 00:19:06.000 mab I'm swinging the rock well. It was called Rockwell Navy fog nozzles in 224 00:19:06.119 --> 00:19:08.480 the air fault business, all right. I had a couple of clicks or 225 00:19:08.519 --> 00:19:11.559 something, right, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah right. And on 226 00:19:11.680 --> 00:19:15.119 the top of it, where you could put like kind of like a solid 227 00:19:15.200 --> 00:19:21.160 stream, you could also put an applicator in it, and so that that 228 00:19:21.559 --> 00:19:25.160 that's what we didn't want to but we we had some good jobs. We 229 00:19:25.279 --> 00:19:30.440 had some good jobs we had. We had a tragic accident going to what 230 00:19:30.839 --> 00:19:36.079 I think was a false alarm. It might have been an automatic alarm in 231 00:19:36.160 --> 00:19:40.440 a house where our floodlight truck the ladder was in front of it, and 232 00:19:40.480 --> 00:19:44.480 they're returning from the call. We had a we had a midship one hundred 233 00:19:44.559 --> 00:19:48.680 foot straight area ladder and then we had a flood light truck for obviously lights 234 00:19:48.680 --> 00:19:53.079 and all that stuff, and the glare hit the driver of the flood light 235 00:19:53.200 --> 00:19:59.480 truck and he rear ended the towel ladder, rear ended our area ladder, 236 00:20:00.000 --> 00:20:04.119 and a ladder went through the windshield. Oh it actually there wasn't blood. 237 00:20:04.319 --> 00:20:08.519 I was a captain at the time and we were at headquarters because we were 238 00:20:08.559 --> 00:20:14.119 all back, and we responded to it and he was actually pinned in and 239 00:20:14.240 --> 00:20:18.279 it turned out later on it just snapped his neck, and obviously we didn't 240 00:20:18.319 --> 00:20:21.359 know that, but he was pinned in. We were just trying at the 241 00:20:21.440 --> 00:20:23.880 time to get it out. And at the time, this was nineteen seventy, 242 00:20:25.039 --> 00:20:27.799 I was in in seventy maybe seventy one and seventy two. We're using 243 00:20:27.880 --> 00:20:32.960 power to get him out. You know. We didn't have her school and 244 00:20:33.079 --> 00:20:37.480 were pumping and I thought the jaws were about that big. So it was 245 00:20:37.559 --> 00:20:42.960 a tragic thing. He was a real well liked guy and we had that 246 00:20:44.119 --> 00:20:48.400 fatality in one to a while while I went away, he died. Yeah, 247 00:20:48.480 --> 00:20:52.920 we didn't know that. I mean we the heart was going, I 248 00:20:53.000 --> 00:20:56.079 don't know, there was breathing very light. But his neck had seven so 249 00:20:56.200 --> 00:21:00.559 he had to obviously no brain function, which we didn't know to this guy, 250 00:21:00.720 --> 00:21:04.079 like god. We finally got him out, and what was bad is 251 00:21:04.160 --> 00:21:08.599 we had a doctor who was well known lived on It was on Main Street 252 00:21:10.079 --> 00:21:12.839 and he lived on the main street and we sent a couple of guys down 253 00:21:12.920 --> 00:21:17.240 to get the doctor and he refused to come out of his house. I'm 254 00:21:17.279 --> 00:21:19.359 not going to mention names, but he was a long time once a resident, 255 00:21:21.200 --> 00:21:23.519 nice guy. But when he heard what it was and what he might 256 00:21:23.599 --> 00:21:26.680 have, he said, I'm like, but I mean we went through we 257 00:21:26.759 --> 00:21:30.400 were talking about cutting his I mean, this how nutty we were. We 258 00:21:30.759 --> 00:21:33.400 didn't know any better. We were going to cut his legs to try to 259 00:21:33.400 --> 00:21:37.079 get him out of the cab, and h Bobby Hunter took it the worst 260 00:21:37.160 --> 00:21:42.640 because Bobby Hunter was a lieutenant on that floodlight. The guy that got killed 261 00:21:42.839 --> 00:21:48.000 was the captain and Bobby obviously gave the seat to the captains. Oh my 262 00:21:48.279 --> 00:21:52.559 god, so it could have been but Bobby to this, you know, 263 00:21:52.640 --> 00:21:56.079 I don't bring it up anymore, but he probably I know, he took 264 00:21:56.119 --> 00:22:00.519 it terribly because he's thinking he should have been in the cab. But you 265 00:22:00.559 --> 00:22:03.559 know, things happened the driver. You never know how it turns out. 266 00:22:03.599 --> 00:22:06.079 It might that might not even happen, you know what I mean. You 267 00:22:06.119 --> 00:22:11.400 don't know how our driver was. The driver was laceration, severe bleeding bed 268 00:22:11.960 --> 00:22:15.680 and Frank Seebeck, who was the officer, got killed. Wow, that 269 00:22:15.880 --> 00:22:21.240 was That wasn't a good thing, but that was one of the things. 270 00:22:21.559 --> 00:22:22.759 And you know, that happened while I was in the one to a fire 271 00:22:22.839 --> 00:22:29.880 department. And then I guess it was a few years later and I'm not 272 00:22:30.000 --> 00:22:33.559 braying about this, believe me, but I got elected as a deputy chief 273 00:22:33.599 --> 00:22:37.000 and I was probably, i think to this day, one of the youngest. 274 00:22:37.079 --> 00:22:41.960 I was just turning twenty five, and uh, you know, I 275 00:22:41.039 --> 00:22:45.400 got into twenty and you have to do year year's captain. And then so 276 00:22:45.519 --> 00:22:51.680 I got elected and it leads into a funny story. But the third deputy 277 00:22:51.720 --> 00:22:53.799 in one to it didn't get a chiefs call like I have. Now all 278 00:22:53.839 --> 00:22:59.079 these suburbans and all these cars, the third deputy had to use his own 279 00:22:59.200 --> 00:23:04.319 car, and I had a souped up Camaro, and uh dispatcher was an 280 00:23:04.319 --> 00:23:10.480 autobody guy too, so he put a red light. It was heading two 281 00:23:10.559 --> 00:23:15.680 balls, A red and white BALLB and I was on my car on your 282 00:23:15.720 --> 00:23:22.000 camel. At the time, I was working for guy Goo Insurance, which 283 00:23:22.119 --> 00:23:27.400 was up on the North Shore, and the dispatcher would call me up and 284 00:23:27.519 --> 00:23:32.160 say, hey, we got something good, you come down here. So 285 00:23:32.319 --> 00:23:34.799 I would jump in by leave work. I was the only guy who's ever 286 00:23:34.920 --> 00:23:38.400 in the history of Guygo. They had six seven hundred employers that was put 287 00:23:38.400 --> 00:23:45.640 on probation. I felt like, I just hey, Johnston, you're on 288 00:23:45.720 --> 00:23:52.279 double secret robation. Just getting up believe them. But I would rev down 289 00:23:52.440 --> 00:23:56.160 the Seafroyster Bay, which was the main express run Long Island, and I'd 290 00:23:56.279 --> 00:24:02.400 red down to one tour and never fails. They have the highway cops and 291 00:24:02.480 --> 00:24:06.400 they would follow me and they wouldn't pull me over, but they'd follow me 292 00:24:06.440 --> 00:24:08.640 and we'd get When they get to the scene, they saw the Chief with 293 00:24:08.720 --> 00:24:12.519 a nice red car. They go, is this guy like an FBI agent? 294 00:24:15.279 --> 00:24:18.559 And the Chief wouldn't know he's one of our voluis. He goes, 295 00:24:18.599 --> 00:24:22.039 well, you don't have a car for him. He's running around. You 296 00:24:22.079 --> 00:24:23.400 don't know who he is. He's doing one hundred miles an hour down. 297 00:24:26.519 --> 00:24:30.119 So that was kind of funny. But so I ran for chief. I 298 00:24:30.240 --> 00:24:36.400 actually ran against Bobby Hunter, and I kind of granted that we were. 299 00:24:36.559 --> 00:24:40.440 I was great friends with his brother and good friends with Bobby, and we 300 00:24:40.559 --> 00:24:42.839 had the only tie in the history of one tour. There was three of 301 00:24:42.920 --> 00:24:48.799 his study and then the following week they did a run off, and I 302 00:24:48.920 --> 00:24:52.759 squeaked it out by a little bit. But I lasted a year and a 303 00:24:52.799 --> 00:25:00.359 half of the Chief's office. And my father said to me, you either 304 00:25:00.480 --> 00:25:04.119 gonna be a volley or you're gonna be My father is a tough guy. 305 00:25:04.240 --> 00:25:07.279 He as a young kid who was a coal miner in Pennsylvania, so he's 306 00:25:08.880 --> 00:25:12.440 so he said, you're either gonna be a volley, a volley chief, 307 00:25:14.119 --> 00:25:15.759 or you're gonna be a man and you're gonna buy You're either gonna be a 308 00:25:15.839 --> 00:25:19.960 volley chief in rent or you're gonna be a man and move and buy a 309 00:25:21.039 --> 00:25:23.799 house. So I looked at him, and you know, being a twenty 310 00:25:23.880 --> 00:25:27.480 four or five year old kid with lights on and you know women and all 311 00:25:27.559 --> 00:25:33.160 that, I'm saying, that's a tough decision that I'm gonna look for a 312 00:25:33.200 --> 00:25:38.440 house. I'll get a job right, and by the way, you need 313 00:25:38.480 --> 00:25:45.960 some insurance. So I lasted a year and a half of the Chief's office, 314 00:25:45.079 --> 00:25:48.359 and then I moved out the whole book, which is way out, 315 00:25:48.799 --> 00:25:51.440 you know, not that far, but way out in eastern Long Island. 316 00:25:51.759 --> 00:25:56.240 But in the meantime I had taken a test, and I didn't realize this 317 00:25:56.359 --> 00:25:59.880 untill I met a guy. My son was playing roller hockey with the Friday 318 00:26:00.359 --> 00:26:03.480 the other day, and I met a guy who was going to be in 319 00:26:03.559 --> 00:26:07.039 my class in August, and I said, when did we take the test? 320 00:26:07.359 --> 00:26:11.200 I kind of forget. I know, we got on in seventy seven, 321 00:26:11.319 --> 00:26:17.319 but so we actually took the test in nineteen seventy and seven years wow, 322 00:26:17.440 --> 00:26:23.519 nineteen seventy and my list number was two two two three, and what 323 00:26:23.759 --> 00:26:29.240 happened is and I remember possible, but what happened was they did the minari 324 00:26:30.039 --> 00:26:33.279 mayor. Beam was the mayor, and they did the minari hiring where they 325 00:26:33.319 --> 00:26:40.279 would take for every three white people one for so they did that and then 326 00:26:40.319 --> 00:26:45.200 they were layoffs. So here I am, I was probably a week or 327 00:26:45.240 --> 00:26:48.279 two away from getting on the city. I was in the dispatching office of 328 00:26:48.359 --> 00:26:52.400 the one we had our own dispatcher and once off and the news comes on 329 00:26:53.200 --> 00:26:56.240 and my father, now at this time, is saying, you got to 330 00:26:56.279 --> 00:27:02.079 get a job. You better wait up to get a job. The news 331 00:27:02.160 --> 00:27:08.400 comes on and may have been job freeze also especially froze. You're done. 332 00:27:10.440 --> 00:27:15.480 So I had been working since I was eighteen at Jones Beach and I was 333 00:27:15.559 --> 00:27:19.440 picking up papers for two or three years, you know, a kid's job, 334 00:27:19.599 --> 00:27:23.359 teenage job. And then I became the ambulance driver because I was a 335 00:27:23.799 --> 00:27:27.200 Medican. One tour finally, but I also was a medic, and I 336 00:27:27.319 --> 00:27:33.240 became an ambulance driver at Jones Beach. But I was just summers. And 337 00:27:33.680 --> 00:27:36.880 at the end of my thing, I'll tell you why the beach relates to 338 00:27:36.960 --> 00:27:41.000 this. I worked seven years at Jones beach and now now I'm not getting 339 00:27:41.039 --> 00:27:45.319 on the city. And my father says, you got to snap out of 340 00:27:45.359 --> 00:27:51.440 it. So he got me into his He was a treasurer of a big 341 00:27:51.519 --> 00:27:56.720 advertising firm in Manhattan. Right. The original building was where the World Trade 342 00:27:56.759 --> 00:28:00.240 had it was, but they had moved they got bigger, so he moved 343 00:28:00.279 --> 00:28:04.880 to Broadway. I think it was sixty one Broadway, right by Trinity right 344 00:28:04.960 --> 00:28:08.839 Trinity Church. Yes, yes, he was originally on Cedar Street, which 345 00:28:08.920 --> 00:28:12.559 is right there. So kind of a funny story. I mean, I 346 00:28:12.680 --> 00:28:17.079 might be getting off track, but this kind funny story. He hires me 347 00:28:17.119 --> 00:28:22.559 because he's treasurer. There's the president vice president of my father and my job. 348 00:28:22.720 --> 00:28:26.759 Since I didn't know what advertising was, I'd gone to post college, 349 00:28:26.799 --> 00:28:29.599 but basically, like a lot of people, I didn't know what I was 350 00:28:29.680 --> 00:28:33.039 doing there. I'd leave there there was a call, so I never really 351 00:28:33.319 --> 00:28:37.319 come, but I did. Finally, I did the five year plan instead 352 00:28:37.319 --> 00:28:41.240 of the four year plan. My father was raided kill me because my father 353 00:28:41.400 --> 00:28:45.640 was very brilliant and he saw me not trying to do stuff. So I'm 354 00:28:45.680 --> 00:28:49.240 working for him and they give me a job where I'm hiring part time, 355 00:28:49.880 --> 00:28:52.359 you know, for for a medical leave. Let's say, if somebody's on 356 00:28:52.559 --> 00:29:00.359 leave secretaries and they give me this big book and it had all these time 357 00:29:00.480 --> 00:29:04.759 all women, So I don't give a shoot if they you a fifty four. 358 00:29:04.920 --> 00:29:08.759 I had to do typing, and then they have to do scenography. 359 00:29:08.880 --> 00:29:12.559 That's how you hired them. And they throw a picture of the girl and 360 00:29:12.640 --> 00:29:17.880 then they'd say she types fifty five words and then takes spenography. Well, 361 00:29:17.920 --> 00:29:21.519 you know, I mean you look at I can care less what they type. 362 00:29:21.880 --> 00:29:26.359 And I'm going through the pictures like he's hot Max. He's swiping left 363 00:29:26.400 --> 00:29:33.759 before signing left was right grinding. So I hire. I hired a bunch 364 00:29:33.799 --> 00:29:37.079 of people, but one girl I hired was a knockout. I mean a 365 00:29:37.200 --> 00:29:45.880 knockout. He comes in and at the time she's there a couple of weeks. 366 00:29:45.480 --> 00:29:51.519 We used to go to lunch down at the at this at the end 367 00:29:51.559 --> 00:29:55.079 of Manhattan. I'm trying to see not the seaport, but down towards the 368 00:29:55.200 --> 00:30:00.279 end of Manhattan. That was part. I was a sun guy because I 369 00:30:00.359 --> 00:30:04.079 always worked at the beach and I love the sun. So this day they're 370 00:30:04.079 --> 00:30:08.440 gonna give me a promotion. My father's company the president, and he says, 371 00:30:08.440 --> 00:30:14.640 we're gonna let you do executive secretaries, not run of the middle secretaries 372 00:30:14.720 --> 00:30:18.079 like I was doing. These are gonna be secretaries for the vice president. 373 00:30:18.920 --> 00:30:22.319 The president knows you already had the hot women you already, so he's like, 374 00:30:22.359 --> 00:30:25.799 we gotta get this guy moving on up. That's it. Well, 375 00:30:25.920 --> 00:30:30.079 the first girl they send to me, it's not out of my book, 376 00:30:30.559 --> 00:30:33.359 this is out of reference. She had come from a big company, almost 377 00:30:33.440 --> 00:30:37.519 like an IBM, and she didn't like it there, says she can't do 378 00:30:37.599 --> 00:30:41.000 this. She was an older lady and she's been around and knows what's going 379 00:30:41.039 --> 00:30:45.039 on. So she comes to where my office was and I said, I 380 00:30:45.119 --> 00:30:49.279 got to take it to this rule where you got to practice typing. There's 381 00:30:49.319 --> 00:30:59.319 electric typewriters there, and I got to dictate. You take the dictation down. 382 00:31:00.480 --> 00:31:03.119 So she said, I don't. She looked at me and she goes, 383 00:31:03.200 --> 00:31:06.400 son, I've been doing this for thirty years. I don't need the 384 00:31:06.480 --> 00:31:07.640 practice. I said, well we have, you know, might have a 385 00:31:07.720 --> 00:31:11.400 different typewriter. I don't need the practice. So now I'm margining her. 386 00:31:11.960 --> 00:31:17.039 Hey, you got a practice, and I'll be in five minutes and then 387 00:31:17.119 --> 00:31:19.000 we'll go through you know where you've been a type what I give you, 388 00:31:19.240 --> 00:31:25.599 and then take me, you know, be in the clown. As I 389 00:31:25.839 --> 00:31:29.720 leave her, like five minutes and I gotta get back. I leave, 390 00:31:30.039 --> 00:31:33.799 and as I leave the girl I hide, it calls me we're going early 391 00:31:34.200 --> 00:31:37.400 to the park. And I saw her going in in the morning and she's 392 00:31:37.480 --> 00:31:41.440 dressed like that. She told us in a babysit. I said, great, 393 00:31:41.680 --> 00:31:47.759 we'll call up to the park. Ten dollar jacket off, my tie 394 00:31:47.880 --> 00:31:51.079 off, and I got my shirt opened up and I run the park. 395 00:31:51.759 --> 00:31:53.759 All right, you know where this is going. I'm laying in the park. 396 00:31:55.440 --> 00:32:02.680 My one friend's there playing a guitar. I'm there. I'm standing and 397 00:32:02.880 --> 00:32:07.279 all of a sudden, about twenty minutes later, I jump up, like 398 00:32:08.000 --> 00:32:12.279 this woman's in the room. I left the lady in the room. So 399 00:32:12.359 --> 00:32:17.079 I left the in the room. Bro, what fat the girl is back? 400 00:32:17.640 --> 00:32:22.720 Because so I run back and as I run back, I get up 401 00:32:22.759 --> 00:32:27.599 to the thirteenth forty elevated door opens up. I got sunburned on my cheeks. 402 00:32:27.599 --> 00:32:30.480 I got my shirt open. My suit's wearing into your office and my 403 00:32:30.640 --> 00:32:36.759 father's at the door and he goes. I cannot believe this, you are 404 00:32:37.000 --> 00:32:43.759 fired, way treasurer. He goes. The president says, we cannot have 405 00:32:43.920 --> 00:32:46.119 that. The lady's file on every note complained on the man. So I 406 00:32:46.160 --> 00:32:52.039 got canned. So I can this old man bro. And then you went 407 00:32:52.119 --> 00:32:59.799 back to the park. He took his jump off bround kids and I say 408 00:33:00.039 --> 00:33:04.039 to see you. But so I left there. I got thrown out of 409 00:33:04.079 --> 00:33:07.680 the air. My father wanted to obviously kill me. He was a tough 410 00:33:07.799 --> 00:33:14.640 man and I then a bunch of us started taking the test for Washington d 411 00:33:14.799 --> 00:33:17.079 C. Fire Department. They were busy, and so a bunch of us 412 00:33:17.160 --> 00:33:22.640 volleys went down and took the test for DC and I did well on it. 413 00:33:22.559 --> 00:33:28.119 And it turns out that as I was getting called for d C, 414 00:33:29.880 --> 00:33:31.759 I had gone down taking the medical done everything. They would call me. 415 00:33:31.839 --> 00:33:37.200 The city called wow, that was history. But I would have my best 416 00:33:37.240 --> 00:33:39.559 friend, Billy Lawson. It was a tremendous fot. I mean, we 417 00:33:39.640 --> 00:33:45.359 were volleys together. He took to DC and he stayed because his list number 418 00:33:45.519 --> 00:33:47.359 was lower than mine. He didn't get called, so he stayed there. 419 00:33:47.799 --> 00:33:51.559 But he eventually came back and I got him a sixty engine. Then he 420 00:33:51.640 --> 00:33:54.480 went to seventeenth truck. But that's what happened. So that was my kind 421 00:33:54.519 --> 00:34:01.160 of like my volley career and getting job that you could tried a thousand words 422 00:34:01.200 --> 00:34:06.839 per minute, what seventy, No, we can't use them, so we 423 00:34:06.960 --> 00:34:12.760 can't use it over here. The other girl's hot as bulls. You can't 424 00:34:12.840 --> 00:34:20.000 stump cat, but you're hieing. She made fire in my trousers. That 425 00:34:20.199 --> 00:34:23.199 was that was one of my u But I then went just fast, I 426 00:34:23.239 --> 00:34:29.199 won't get into the volleys anymore, but fast forward I I I rejoined, 427 00:34:29.320 --> 00:34:31.960 I moved at a hole brook. I moved back to one tour and it 428 00:34:32.079 --> 00:34:36.199 took me about four or five years. So I said, you know what, 429 00:34:36.280 --> 00:34:38.239 I think, I want to be a volley again. And then I 430 00:34:38.360 --> 00:34:43.519 went up the ladder to the chief. It took eight take six years, 431 00:34:43.559 --> 00:34:45.039 and then you're a chief for two more years. So I was eight years 432 00:34:45.400 --> 00:34:49.119 and that's that was good. I mean, I had to put up with 433 00:34:49.199 --> 00:34:52.440 the nonsense because we did have women coming in and they were doing the empts, 434 00:34:52.519 --> 00:34:57.079 and you get guys doing this and picturing the girl and they called me 435 00:34:57.239 --> 00:34:59.840 up and say you gotta do something. You know. It was like kind 436 00:34:59.880 --> 00:35:02.679 of you were like a babysitter. But did they finally give you the cardo? 437 00:35:02.840 --> 00:35:07.239 Did they give you a car at least when you came back? Yeahful 438 00:35:07.400 --> 00:35:09.519 by that time any car you wanted. So I went up. The ladder 439 00:35:09.599 --> 00:35:13.960 was zero three, zero two. And what was good about that? And 440 00:35:14.000 --> 00:35:17.000 I'm glad I went back. Is the friendships I made. I'm getting the 441 00:35:17.039 --> 00:35:22.599 little teary. But Ronnie Geese and I were chiefs together, Ronnie Cohen and 442 00:35:22.719 --> 00:35:27.639 I Dennis Murphy. Dennis Murphy, I believed, was commissioner then, and 443 00:35:27.760 --> 00:35:30.480 we all had ball. You know, you all love this. We're all 444 00:35:30.559 --> 00:35:34.280 city finding just about you know what. There's probably a couple others I'm missing, 445 00:35:34.360 --> 00:35:37.440 but the group by the towns I were like. Ronnie Geese was in 446 00:35:37.519 --> 00:35:42.599 Barrow right here where I was at one tour, and we go on conventions 447 00:35:42.679 --> 00:35:45.840 together and it was just a great time. And I'm glad I went back 448 00:35:45.920 --> 00:35:49.920 and went through the chiefs office. I turned in, I turned out, 449 00:35:49.960 --> 00:35:53.360 I believe for being the youngest chief. Your deputy told what I got out 450 00:35:53.360 --> 00:35:55.880 of the chief's office. I think I was the oldest chief they wanted. 451 00:35:58.840 --> 00:36:00.519 I was ready to go. It's enough. And then you try to bring 452 00:36:00.599 --> 00:36:06.039 your car in. Oh my god, I remember where just six the engine. 453 00:36:07.159 --> 00:36:10.199 Yeah crazy, I brought the car in. When I went out, 454 00:36:10.400 --> 00:36:15.440 the light buarb was off and the wheels well taking them. No, lie, 455 00:36:15.159 --> 00:36:22.280 I believe it. I just rend was a John Soker. I only 456 00:36:22.320 --> 00:36:23.880 made him a couple of times in Responsson Drew. I know, if he's 457 00:36:23.920 --> 00:36:28.039 a batalion chief whatever, he would come with his chiefs car. Nobody would 458 00:36:28.039 --> 00:36:35.719 thought to him. But it was my firehouse on the blocks. So finally 459 00:36:36.920 --> 00:36:42.159 in seventy seven I get I never thought the list would be reinstated. It 460 00:36:42.199 --> 00:36:45.639 wiscon you know, nineteen seventy you take the test and now you get, 461 00:36:45.760 --> 00:36:50.519 you know, nineteen seventy seven. So I wind up that I'm gonna. 462 00:36:50.639 --> 00:36:52.840 I'm on, you know, in Provy school. And that was kind of 463 00:36:52.880 --> 00:36:58.800 funny because I I in seventy seven, I bought my deputy's car there. 464 00:36:59.440 --> 00:37:08.039 I had two love that and we were the first class man they had that 465 00:37:08.159 --> 00:37:12.519 proby. We were in the new Academy. They had that probs and I 466 00:37:12.519 --> 00:37:15.039 don't know how many years because they were laying bowl actually they would. We 467 00:37:15.159 --> 00:37:17.800 were like red meat to them. We didn't have we didn't have key. 468 00:37:19.320 --> 00:37:22.199 You probably heard guys on the show. We had the yellow helmets. They 469 00:37:22.239 --> 00:37:27.119 were Civil Defense helmets. Yeah yeah, yeah, and you had a yellow 470 00:37:27.239 --> 00:37:30.920 raincoat and they we call them slickers. I think we had boots. And 471 00:37:31.519 --> 00:37:37.639 the class was unbelievable because the guys in the class, in fact, one 472 00:37:37.679 --> 00:37:39.639 of them, two of them went my class. The two oldest guys at 473 00:37:39.679 --> 00:37:44.360 Proby School went to sixty with me. They were thirty five years old. 474 00:37:44.800 --> 00:37:47.760 I mean I was twenty six. I thought I was old. They were 475 00:37:47.840 --> 00:37:51.920 thirty five. And we'd be running around, you know, the course, 476 00:37:51.960 --> 00:37:53.519 because you had a run in the morning. I was out there this hot 477 00:37:53.920 --> 00:37:58.599 I was out there in August thre and you run around and like these two 478 00:37:58.679 --> 00:38:00.800 guys who I didn't know. One turned out to be a volley in the 479 00:38:00.920 --> 00:38:05.280 next town. We became great. We're still to this day like brothers. 480 00:38:05.599 --> 00:38:09.480 But they would take your pulse. They wouldn't let them run. You guys 481 00:38:09.559 --> 00:38:16.199 can't run your grandpa. They got anybody's pulse. So that's what they did. 482 00:38:16.719 --> 00:38:22.599 And a friend of mine in the volleys, uh says listen, I 483 00:38:22.639 --> 00:38:27.519 got it chief saying from the Bronx lives next door to me. And the 484 00:38:27.599 --> 00:38:30.679 way I got studying is one of the guys in the volley who taught me. 485 00:38:30.880 --> 00:38:34.679 Who kind of was I instructed when I joined the valleys. One was 486 00:38:34.760 --> 00:38:38.480 from uh actually I found our latest was in seventeen truck for a year, 487 00:38:38.519 --> 00:38:43.679 but then he went to rescue for Big guy, Great guy Don McKay went 488 00:38:43.719 --> 00:38:49.079 to rescue for. And then the other guy, I believe Heffernan, was 489 00:38:49.159 --> 00:38:52.519 in you know the heffenn In distributed. I think he was in one to 490 00:38:52.639 --> 00:38:54.719 or two, but I'm pretty sure he was. And then the other guy 491 00:38:54.800 --> 00:38:59.280 that that got me into taking the test was in three h two one fifty 492 00:38:59.360 --> 00:39:02.639 five and he actually brought us in for a tour and I thought it was 493 00:39:02.760 --> 00:39:07.480 great. I mean they had a run and we all go and jump on 494 00:39:07.559 --> 00:39:12.719 the rig and the three or two's out the door. One fifty five doesn't 495 00:39:12.800 --> 00:39:15.559 start, and I mean it's not starting, and they're sitting there and I'm 496 00:39:15.559 --> 00:39:19.239 going, what the fleet's going on? Is the truck goal He's just sitting 497 00:39:19.320 --> 00:39:21.719 on here, and they said, no, no, waiting for the showf 498 00:39:21.760 --> 00:39:24.000 he's probably taking a piss And there he is taking a piss at a slop 499 00:39:24.079 --> 00:39:29.840 sick and I'm saying, this is great, this is great. But we 500 00:39:29.920 --> 00:39:31.760 went out and that's when I got interested in the job. And I took 501 00:39:31.800 --> 00:39:35.920 the tests and like I said, got on seventy seven. But while I'm 502 00:39:35.960 --> 00:39:39.199 in provy school, I made one mistake. One of the instructors was besides 503 00:39:39.239 --> 00:39:49.480 bringing the volley. So this guy is first I can't think his name now, 504 00:39:49.559 --> 00:39:51.880 but he was a big bruis. He was missing a finger. He 505 00:39:52.000 --> 00:39:55.880 was in rescue three. He was a lieutenant, and he's he's out there 506 00:39:57.119 --> 00:40:00.239 and he's given this speech the first and second day of boarding school and he 507 00:40:00.360 --> 00:40:05.440 goes, there's a car in a parking lot. I don't really know what 508 00:40:05.599 --> 00:40:09.280 it is, but it's a blue Camaro with some gunball on the top of 509 00:40:09.360 --> 00:40:14.119 the roof. And he goes, if I see the car again, it's 510 00:40:14.159 --> 00:40:17.519 gonna be parking Queen and whoever owns it's gonna be walking to program school from 511 00:40:17.559 --> 00:40:22.599 Queen Fars. That's it with the car. No more. You know your 512 00:40:22.639 --> 00:40:25.320 body is. When I got to sixty seventeen, they had boy. So 513 00:40:25.440 --> 00:40:30.719 I my friend tells me he's got a park he's a chief, said he's 514 00:40:30.760 --> 00:40:35.360 gonna get you the forty six engine, which I don't know nothing about nothing 515 00:40:35.400 --> 00:40:37.960 in the city. All I know is. I rode once with three Outdore, 516 00:40:37.480 --> 00:40:40.480 and I wanted to go to Obviously, I love flyers to this day, 517 00:40:40.519 --> 00:40:44.039 I love fiers. I wanted to go to a busy company. So 518 00:40:44.079 --> 00:40:45.360 I'm going to forty six. I know, Oh, maybe they're busy. 519 00:40:45.440 --> 00:40:50.360 I don't know. So I'm sitting in a lunch room and I always saw 520 00:40:51.360 --> 00:40:53.719 a couple of times a week sixty Engine at the Rock, and I'm thinking 521 00:40:53.760 --> 00:40:57.239 to myself, boy Dade, I don't give a lot. Maybe they're training. 522 00:40:57.280 --> 00:41:00.679 I don't know what they're doing. But what it was was the captain 523 00:41:00.760 --> 00:41:04.079 of sixty Engine was Gene Marvin. I think he has a couple of sons 524 00:41:04.519 --> 00:41:07.000 who are chiefs on the job. I don't know if they still are. 525 00:41:07.079 --> 00:41:09.559 But he was my turned out to be my captain. But he would take 526 00:41:09.639 --> 00:41:15.440 sixty out and he picked the brains of the instructors. Who knows what they're 527 00:41:15.480 --> 00:41:20.599 doing out here because we are getting on the job. And guys from the 528 00:41:20.679 --> 00:41:22.400 war years ago, they'll leave it. You know, they've had enough, 529 00:41:22.480 --> 00:41:27.159 most of them. I've had enough. You know. He's at the Rock. 530 00:41:27.199 --> 00:41:30.000 I'm sitting here and the lunch and I see this captain standing before him, 531 00:41:30.000 --> 00:41:30.719 and he goes hey, you jossed him. I get up. I 532 00:41:30.800 --> 00:41:34.519 slewed him. I go, yes, sir, he said, would you 533 00:41:34.639 --> 00:41:37.199 like to go to sixty engine? So we'd like an idiot? I go, 534 00:41:37.760 --> 00:41:40.280 are you busy? So I don't know. He goes, well, 535 00:41:40.400 --> 00:41:45.159 we do sixty They had just done sixty six, seventy nine. I always 536 00:41:45.239 --> 00:41:49.320 remember that runs and he goes in and we get two or three jobs a 537 00:41:49.440 --> 00:41:52.920 day. There's my hand goes up forget forty six. I don't know where 538 00:41:52.960 --> 00:41:55.719 they are, but it turned out there was probably was as busy as sixty. 539 00:41:57.440 --> 00:42:00.239 So what made me go is he goes see that EDI over there, 540 00:42:00.880 --> 00:42:04.880 see that idiot over there, No, that a'diat over there, and those 541 00:42:04.920 --> 00:42:07.840 two old guys they're coming. Would you like to go? And I knew 542 00:42:07.880 --> 00:42:12.719 of him from the from the you know, the academy. I'm going. 543 00:42:12.840 --> 00:42:15.559 So we wind up all four of us going to sixty engine. Wow. 544 00:42:16.400 --> 00:42:22.079 We had Jimmy cochrane who wound up all great guys, but he wound up 545 00:42:22.639 --> 00:42:27.760 Uh. He wound up in a lieutenant rescue three, and then he went 546 00:42:27.840 --> 00:42:31.360 to rescue one as a lieutenant and he was a fireman in Elizabeth, New 547 00:42:31.480 --> 00:42:36.559 Jersey, which was pretty busy, so he was there. Mike Steele, 548 00:42:36.639 --> 00:42:38.960 who you'll hear him mentioned throughout my story. He was my buddy. We 549 00:42:39.079 --> 00:42:44.159 would nozzle and back up for almost every job we ever had. We had 550 00:42:44.199 --> 00:42:49.079 a beat together and at least two hundred good jobs where I was on a 551 00:42:49.199 --> 00:42:51.880 naws when he was my backup. He was a Vietnam thing. He was 552 00:42:51.960 --> 00:42:55.920 a marine in Vietnam. And then Jimmy Lafferty, who was the oldest guy 553 00:42:57.039 --> 00:43:00.199 in the provy class. They had said to him, they go, what 554 00:43:00.320 --> 00:43:02.800 did you do before this? And he goes, I'm a bartender. I 555 00:43:02.880 --> 00:43:05.679 own a bar. He goes, you better go back to the bar. 556 00:43:07.840 --> 00:43:09.599 You know, he's on a shade big, but a great I mean a 557 00:43:09.679 --> 00:43:13.880 great guy. And he wound up being one of our best chauffs. He 558 00:43:13.920 --> 00:43:16.920 wound up getting the sixty and be But but what was funny is now Mormon 559 00:43:17.000 --> 00:43:21.440 says to me, I said, well, Sir, I got a hook 560 00:43:21.519 --> 00:43:23.440 to go to forty six. He goes, nobody's got a hook like me. 561 00:43:24.119 --> 00:43:28.119 Me and Brouthers are like this. Brothers, not the kid, brothers, 562 00:43:28.199 --> 00:43:30.960 the old, the father who's belong dead. But he lived in Massa 563 00:43:31.000 --> 00:43:36.840 Peak when Mormon was a Commissioner of Jericho Fire Commission. He goes, whatever 564 00:43:36.960 --> 00:43:38.199 I say, you're going. So I said, I'll go to sixty. 565 00:43:38.400 --> 00:43:40.760 I'm gonna go with three guys I know of he can. I mean, 566 00:43:42.239 --> 00:43:47.199 I'll go there. When Fundy, we had a lieutenant instructor and he did 567 00:43:47.320 --> 00:43:51.480 louders in the afternoon, and he'd come in in the morning, big guy. 568 00:43:51.559 --> 00:43:53.679 He looked like a Saint Benard. And he come in in the morning, 569 00:43:54.679 --> 00:43:59.639 spitting polish, you know, the everything good, the share pie, 570 00:43:59.800 --> 00:44:02.039 you know, with the hat all. And I had him my squad. 571 00:44:02.400 --> 00:44:06.199 I think we only had one hundred and twenty five in our party class. 572 00:44:06.320 --> 00:44:10.000 Like I said, the rock with brand new and we went for six weeks. 573 00:44:12.000 --> 00:44:15.639 And so I would see him flatters in the afternoon. I looking at 574 00:44:15.760 --> 00:44:21.360 him in the morning. The afternoon, no tie, disheveled. He was. 575 00:44:22.079 --> 00:44:24.679 You know, we got a few sodas for latch, that's for sure. 576 00:44:24.960 --> 00:44:30.639 Yeah, seventeen. So when they come out where they're telling you the 577 00:44:30.719 --> 00:44:34.719 company, he run. I mean, I didn't know the guy could run. 578 00:44:34.800 --> 00:44:37.000 He runs up to me and he's gotten me in a bear hug. 579 00:44:37.719 --> 00:44:40.760 He goes, you're going to a house, You're gonna have a ball. 580 00:44:42.320 --> 00:44:44.400 He goes, you're light fire. I said yeah. He goes, do 581 00:44:44.440 --> 00:44:50.119 you like have fun? I said, yeah, you're in the right spot, 582 00:44:50.199 --> 00:44:52.480 kid, They're in the right spox. So I wound up going to 583 00:44:52.639 --> 00:44:58.039 sixty and I get there, and you know you've heard these stories. I 584 00:44:58.760 --> 00:45:00.920 go through the Bronx. I don't know where I'm going. I went in 585 00:45:00.000 --> 00:45:04.440 with Jimmy Lafferty for mess peak with the old time. He's with me, 586 00:45:05.119 --> 00:45:08.639 and uh, I see all the buildings, you know, occupied, but 587 00:45:09.519 --> 00:45:14.199 you know burnt out. Aren't that windows? You know? Boarded seventy? 588 00:45:14.639 --> 00:45:19.880 Some of those pictures it was it looked like this, Jimmy, I'm gonna 589 00:45:19.920 --> 00:45:22.920 look yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. A lot of them are like 590 00:45:23.039 --> 00:45:27.239 that. A lot of them are like that. There's your there's your car. 591 00:45:27.800 --> 00:45:35.800 They took my dog mind off. Holy ship, man, I think 592 00:45:35.880 --> 00:45:38.000 that might have been not I sid I thought that was a casket factory. 593 00:45:39.000 --> 00:45:40.920 No, I have that up there, And then is this one too? 594 00:45:42.679 --> 00:45:46.000 That's insane to go back back then sixty and seventeen they were like, right, 595 00:45:46.639 --> 00:45:50.960 that was the Southern Brox. Correct, that was like sixty and seventeen, 596 00:45:51.480 --> 00:45:53.239 other than eighty three and twenty nine, which were the buns on the 597 00:45:53.360 --> 00:45:57.519 hill. We were the South South South you could go, you know, 598 00:45:57.679 --> 00:46:00.480 and we were you know, I learned what the South runs. Man. 599 00:46:00.519 --> 00:46:02.559 I didn't know what it meant, but tradition was we you know, you 600 00:46:02.840 --> 00:46:06.239 tell, if you met a girl, you met somebody, you'd say, 601 00:46:06.280 --> 00:46:07.920 I'm in the South Bronx file. And you know, now the South Bronx 602 00:46:08.039 --> 00:46:12.079 is going on my way up to whatever companies they were. But we, 603 00:46:12.280 --> 00:46:15.440 you know, we were the original South Bronx. And I got there and 604 00:46:15.480 --> 00:46:22.000 I remember my captain, uh Morman, he's recruiteds and he lines all four 605 00:46:22.039 --> 00:46:23.599 of us up. He had us all come a day earlier, whatever it 606 00:46:23.719 --> 00:46:29.679 was, and he lines us up and he goes, Johnsin, you're gonna 607 00:46:29.679 --> 00:46:35.360 be with Lieutenant Farrell, who was a great grand all salty stutterer, tremendous 608 00:46:35.440 --> 00:46:39.199 fire You're gonna be with him. He goes Cockering, you're gonna be with 609 00:46:39.280 --> 00:46:44.960 this lieutenant. And Mike Steel, my partner. He says to somebody else, 610 00:46:45.000 --> 00:46:46.280 you're gonna be here, and then he grabs Mike Steel. It turned 611 00:46:46.320 --> 00:46:50.360 out to be my best friend, I mean, a tremendous fireman, backed 612 00:46:50.400 --> 00:46:52.840 me up on every job we had. And he goes and you're gonna go 613 00:46:52.960 --> 00:46:59.039 with Lieutenant Pampalon. Well, pampalone, we didn't know one of the toughest, 614 00:46:59.199 --> 00:47:02.639 toughest intimidating person you ever want to see. And so the captain goes 615 00:47:02.679 --> 00:47:07.199 to steal. I'm putting you with him because you are a marine and he 616 00:47:07.360 --> 00:47:15.239 wants to kill somebody. You can handle it. He al was petriflied, 617 00:47:15.880 --> 00:47:21.360 but I had. I got Phil Fowl as my boss. He calls me 618 00:47:21.480 --> 00:47:27.079 in and the first the first tour was a rainy night, and you know, 619 00:47:27.239 --> 00:47:30.559 I just thought, if it's a nice night, we're gonna be busy. 620 00:47:30.599 --> 00:47:31.920 You know, I don't know what I'm expecting, but I figure rain. 621 00:47:32.079 --> 00:47:35.119 You know, you always got to be quiet. Yeah, yeah, 622 00:47:35.159 --> 00:47:38.320 yeah. So all the guys in the volleys had the part. I had 623 00:47:38.360 --> 00:47:43.719 the City Bronx radio on so that all the volleys are listening. I go 624 00:47:43.920 --> 00:47:47.000 off to work to work the night tour, and I walk in and Phil 625 00:47:47.079 --> 00:47:52.679 Fowl is the boss and he's sitting at the desk with my delegate. That 626 00:47:52.920 --> 00:47:57.000 was a senior guy. He's delegate, and they had a big bottle of 627 00:47:57.079 --> 00:48:00.320 soda on the desk, and uh, I'm looking at this. I'm going 628 00:48:00.360 --> 00:48:04.280 man, I'm in the right house. This is gonna be, is gonna 629 00:48:04.280 --> 00:48:07.599 be, It's gonna be beautiful. And they thought when they heard my name 630 00:48:07.760 --> 00:48:12.840 Johnson, they thought one thing. But then when they saw me Johnstone, 631 00:48:14.199 --> 00:48:16.360 I really got spoiled. I don't know why God was with me, but 632 00:48:16.440 --> 00:48:22.400 they treated me almost like so I walk in foul Johnson. I don't think, 633 00:48:23.000 --> 00:48:25.440 well, he's dead now, but I think for the five or six 634 00:48:25.960 --> 00:48:35.360 never knew my first thing. You know what I want to do, and 635 00:48:35.480 --> 00:48:37.440 I'm brand new. I said, no, I have you know I'm here 636 00:48:37.480 --> 00:48:40.039 admnute. I don't know. What do you want to do? He goes, 637 00:48:40.880 --> 00:48:44.880 well, first hat some of the soda. I said, all right, 638 00:48:45.920 --> 00:48:47.679 you know whatever, I have a little soda. And he goes, 639 00:48:49.519 --> 00:48:52.440 Here's what I want to do. I want to die in a fly. 640 00:48:52.960 --> 00:48:54.559 The whole company. We're gonna die in a fine I'm looking at it. 641 00:49:00.400 --> 00:49:06.599 I'm not jerking a brand new a man. Five minutes I'm there. Five 642 00:49:06.679 --> 00:49:08.960 minutes, I'm like, I gotta get the hell out of here. He 643 00:49:09.079 --> 00:49:13.760 had a massive heart attack. I had a job, but died a little 644 00:49:13.800 --> 00:49:15.559 while later. But he almost had his wish. He almost had his wish. 645 00:49:20.639 --> 00:49:22.480 Way to scar the ship in the trophy, right, I want to 646 00:49:22.519 --> 00:49:27.719 die and the best he didn't call his first name the whole time. Heknew 647 00:49:29.119 --> 00:49:30.719 she meant it. This guy, I mean, he wasn't you know, 648 00:49:30.880 --> 00:49:35.960 like the guy would laugh and we're going to die and that that's what I 649 00:49:36.039 --> 00:49:38.039 want to do. That's my life. And whenever we had a job, 650 00:49:39.719 --> 00:49:44.960 we never really will. I don't't die. The people listening. You wear 651 00:49:45.119 --> 00:49:47.519 masks, but a lot of us didn't do that, and he wouldn't wear 652 00:49:47.599 --> 00:49:52.280 one. And he would give the score of the fire fire, three fire 653 00:49:52.400 --> 00:50:05.199 and nothing fire, eat it up the score. He was he was studying 654 00:50:05.239 --> 00:50:10.639 to be a nurse and he couldn't pass the test. And he was what 655 00:50:10.880 --> 00:50:15.639 you guys know what mango is right when you go out to dumpsters and all 656 00:50:15.679 --> 00:50:21.519 that. He was the mango guy and he couldn't pay. It turned out 657 00:50:21.559 --> 00:50:24.400 he never passed the nursing test, but he didn't be in the back and 658 00:50:25.360 --> 00:50:30.639 Marmon now was there a year and he leaves. We were in the basement 659 00:50:30.480 --> 00:50:35.679 having a retirement party for one of the chiefs battalion because we had a battalion 660 00:50:35.800 --> 00:50:38.719 chief for us, and Marman's hugging us all of us, all four of 661 00:50:38.840 --> 00:50:43.719 us, and he goes, I'm never leaving you guys. No line. 662 00:50:44.119 --> 00:50:52.000 The next day was starting. He's got that was coming. I love you 663 00:50:52.079 --> 00:50:54.599 guys, I'm never leaving. Take care. See. I wanted to find 664 00:50:54.679 --> 00:51:00.199 that picture. But he's got his hugging you know. The basement is you 665 00:51:00.280 --> 00:51:04.480 know, soup and knots everybody's and he grabbed us for a picture and he 666 00:51:04.599 --> 00:51:07.800 left. He had a tremendous hook. He was a fireman in one twenty 667 00:51:07.920 --> 00:51:12.960 seven. I believe he might have even been a captain man went back as 668 00:51:13.000 --> 00:51:16.559 a as a lieutenant day with Doc as a captain because him and Cruthers were 669 00:51:16.679 --> 00:51:21.320 very close. And if I had stayed, if he had stayed there, 670 00:51:22.119 --> 00:51:27.039 I might have studied. He hated the truck, and the truck were all 671 00:51:27.760 --> 00:51:31.800 the engine too, but the trucks still were all salt. The guys Patty 672 00:51:31.880 --> 00:51:37.320 McAndrews, who have that picture of me and Patty in sixty at the hydrant, 673 00:51:37.880 --> 00:51:42.719 Patty was took me under his wing. He that's Patty, real Irish 674 00:51:42.800 --> 00:51:47.159 guy. Because we were Ya's house obviously, and he was a he was 675 00:51:47.280 --> 00:51:52.639 like my father. We were very very very close him, me and Mike 676 00:51:52.679 --> 00:51:55.760 Steel my partner as Ustree were very good. Patty was a chauffeur when I 677 00:51:55.840 --> 00:52:01.159 got there, and I would sit and listened to his stories. Patty mad 678 00:52:01.559 --> 00:52:07.800 Hey. It was incredible because I wanted to do those years that I missed. 679 00:52:07.840 --> 00:52:10.239 You know, he took the tests in seventy the war, yes, 680 00:52:12.159 --> 00:52:14.719 eight to seventy five. Where really the war? He is? I mean 681 00:52:14.760 --> 00:52:17.440 I saw a lot, but Paddy would sit there and he goes, hey, 682 00:52:17.559 --> 00:52:22.480 Katie goes and I picked his brain because I love hearing fire stories. 683 00:52:22.960 --> 00:52:28.719 And he would say. We used to have five sections of sixty on a 684 00:52:28.800 --> 00:52:32.960 weekend night lined up where you walked in, say it's to eighty eight. 685 00:52:34.599 --> 00:52:37.719 I'm too eighty eight the house watch guy, Okay, you're the second section 686 00:52:37.840 --> 00:52:40.880 of sixty. Then another company say from the back, crazy man. The 687 00:52:40.960 --> 00:52:45.039 other thing he said it was it was incredible, and at the time they 688 00:52:45.119 --> 00:52:52.480 had seventeen to two seventeen sixty and then you picture four or five engines sitting 689 00:52:52.519 --> 00:52:54.199 in the street and maybe a towel, and you know, another ladder, 690 00:52:54.639 --> 00:53:00.599 and these guys were all on the firehouse and the firehouse was crazy without them. 691 00:53:02.960 --> 00:53:06.559 So there was how many guys are in there? There's gotta be be 692 00:53:06.679 --> 00:53:09.960 the twenty five guys there, yeah, and the chiefs there, thirty guys 693 00:53:10.000 --> 00:53:16.519 there in there. They had enough jobs for everybody. In fact, the 694 00:53:16.599 --> 00:53:21.840 blessed He was our basement where we conducted a lot of our board beatings. 695 00:53:22.559 --> 00:53:27.199 The basement had the basement had jacks they used to hold up the floor. 696 00:53:27.199 --> 00:53:30.039 In fact, they are just hit the floor a few years back. But 697 00:53:30.199 --> 00:53:34.280 the floor sack where the tower ladder was, and we had jacks and they 698 00:53:34.320 --> 00:53:37.320 were every they were every two feet away. Yeah, we had them too. 699 00:53:37.400 --> 00:53:38.719 Yeah, yeah, So it was like doing it. You'd beat a 700 00:53:38.760 --> 00:53:42.400 basement at a board meeting, the run would committed. It was like a 701 00:53:42.480 --> 00:53:49.920 d w Y test and they're close together, by the way, yeah yeah, 702 00:53:50.199 --> 00:53:52.360 yeah yeah. And the screws stick out if you if you hit them 703 00:53:52.400 --> 00:53:58.800 and hur and the injuries. We had more injuries going from the basement up 704 00:53:58.840 --> 00:54:07.119 to the allegedly listen, fantastic, who do we have from seventeen to John 705 00:54:07.239 --> 00:54:10.920 Creasy? Was he there? Well? We had captain uh captain laughy too, 706 00:54:12.039 --> 00:54:16.079 right was seventeen. I believe that's what I was made on. You 707 00:54:16.159 --> 00:54:22.679 got me following Capital Laffey ninety two and then Chief Hodges and now you got 708 00:54:22.760 --> 00:54:37.119 me on there and coming to the stage Jimmy, oh daddy, oh oh, 709 00:54:37.440 --> 00:54:39.519 well hold up here. It is so when I got to six, 710 00:54:39.760 --> 00:54:45.199 when I got to sixty, a lot of the guys were leaving a couple 711 00:54:45.239 --> 00:54:49.360 of promotions, but mainly they were they were burnt out. You know, 712 00:54:49.840 --> 00:54:52.199 you don't you expect that they were burnt out and the fly as they went 713 00:54:52.239 --> 00:54:58.960 through with tremendous but uh, the truck, I had three or four guys 714 00:54:59.039 --> 00:55:01.079 that were tremendous. You know, I'm gonna use the word tremendous a lot 715 00:55:01.360 --> 00:55:05.760 because there's no other way to describe these guys. They were tremendous. Lining 716 00:55:06.400 --> 00:55:08.119 Uh, they like have fun, but they were tremendous. I had Dennis 717 00:55:08.159 --> 00:55:14.480 O'Connor, Paul tang them in. Tommy Mahoney was a chauffeur. A bunch 718 00:55:14.519 --> 00:55:16.239 of these guys, which Dennis O'Connor, I think, I said, and 719 00:55:16.320 --> 00:55:21.960 guys like that who Joe Sullivan was one of the best nozzle of that I 720 00:55:22.039 --> 00:55:25.480 ever saw in my life. And they were all tough guys. And then 721 00:55:25.559 --> 00:55:31.360 the truck had real senior guys that took crap from nobody. Nobody told anybody 722 00:55:31.480 --> 00:55:36.800 there what to do. If you went to a job, you heard nothing 723 00:55:36.880 --> 00:55:40.199 on the radio. You might hear the you heard star water, you heard 724 00:55:40.320 --> 00:55:45.760 shut down, and you might occasionally hear the OV if he went if he 725 00:55:45.840 --> 00:55:49.119 went to the rear, and you know, reported from the rear. Otherwise 726 00:55:49.159 --> 00:55:52.360 you heard nothing from the job. We every guy knew exactly what they do. 727 00:55:52.760 --> 00:55:57.800 And it was funny because I'm listening to some of your podcasts and I'm 728 00:55:57.840 --> 00:56:00.599 not knocking my house. Believe me, they were great, but some of 729 00:56:00.639 --> 00:56:06.320 your podcasts have with I learned from this guy. I learned from this guy. 730 00:56:06.519 --> 00:56:08.760 I learned from this guy. All due respect, I learned fromnother You 731 00:56:09.039 --> 00:56:13.880 just did your job. They didn't. They didn't go listen, hit it 732 00:56:13.960 --> 00:56:17.800 overhead and ripe it around or put the ladder up this way. You did 733 00:56:19.159 --> 00:56:23.000 your job, and they just they would be with you. But you you 734 00:56:23.480 --> 00:56:28.360 did. You know what what you were supposed to do. And there were 735 00:56:28.480 --> 00:56:34.079 times with the lieutenant we got and the three classes that was on my list, 736 00:56:34.360 --> 00:56:37.840 and then the list ended. The last class was December. They had 737 00:56:39.480 --> 00:56:43.760 ten guys came to the firehouse. So that's a lot. You know, 738 00:56:43.880 --> 00:56:46.519 you have fitty on the rosta you have a few guys on medical leave, 739 00:56:47.280 --> 00:56:51.559 and uh, you know, so ten of us, So a lot of 740 00:56:51.639 --> 00:56:54.519 them were in the engine. So my lieutenant would be turning around and there's 741 00:56:54.559 --> 00:56:58.760 three pumpkin shields looking at him, you know, and he can look and 742 00:56:59.400 --> 00:57:02.800 we're going on the door to a job. But to get back to the 743 00:57:02.880 --> 00:57:09.800 beginning, we had we had three jobs. My first night, we had 744 00:57:09.880 --> 00:57:15.320 a I love I love how he gets emotional like that when he's talking about 745 00:57:15.320 --> 00:57:17.039 the guy. Yeah, that's great. We had three jobs. Yeah. 746 00:57:17.039 --> 00:57:20.519 I get teary when I think about the Yeah, it's good man, it's 747 00:57:20.559 --> 00:57:24.039 good stuff. Yeah. And we had a ten thirty, which is a 748 00:57:24.159 --> 00:57:29.239 signal you guys know, and they did away with that about yeah, and 749 00:57:30.320 --> 00:57:34.639 we were first do for that. Then we had a ten seventy five hole 750 00:57:34.760 --> 00:57:39.119 hands and then which was partially occupied. And then the last fire was a 751 00:57:39.280 --> 00:57:44.199 second alarm where we were second due. So that was my first night to 752 00:57:44.320 --> 00:57:49.119 him, and you know, you saw these guys in action. I mean, 753 00:57:49.639 --> 00:57:52.000 this is one of the fires, you know, to partially occupied, 754 00:57:52.239 --> 00:57:57.679 partially occupied you mentioned, Yeah, but that was my first night, so 755 00:57:58.159 --> 00:58:01.519 it was exciting, and I mean the guy took I'll tell you I think 756 00:58:01.559 --> 00:58:07.159 I can tell these stories. I'm there within one month. Now, I'm 757 00:58:07.199 --> 00:58:10.920 there one month roughly, give and take. Mike Steele and I kind of 758 00:58:12.039 --> 00:58:15.320 always liked to work together, one in the same group, so we were 759 00:58:15.320 --> 00:58:17.440 allowed to do twenty fours almost immediately, So I was good. And the 760 00:58:17.519 --> 00:58:22.320 guys, the old timers wanted that before we got there. They were straight 761 00:58:22.400 --> 00:58:24.960 tours, so they're always straight tours, right, Yeah, they were beat 762 00:58:25.039 --> 00:58:29.599 up when I got there. You could do twenty fours. So I'm there 763 00:58:29.719 --> 00:58:36.079 within a month. The senior man in the truck smacks a covering lieutenant in 764 00:58:36.119 --> 00:58:43.280 the face. Uh, who we I have? We had one of our 765 00:58:43.400 --> 00:58:49.239 senior truck guys. Great guy. He handcuffed the chief to the desk in 766 00:58:49.320 --> 00:58:54.320 the chief's office. And I'm downstairs with Mike Steele, my partner, and 767 00:58:54.440 --> 00:58:58.519 we're new but we're in the basement, which was kind of like a study 768 00:58:58.639 --> 00:59:00.639 room, and all the senior memories truckle down here. And there was a 769 00:59:00.679 --> 00:59:06.039 guy, John Fullham, great, great guy. He had made a rescue 770 00:59:06.119 --> 00:59:07.679 and got a big medal. I believe his partner did too him. What 771 00:59:07.800 --> 00:59:13.800 he did is he hung off his partner, who was Muscle Barren just solid 772 00:59:13.920 --> 00:59:19.840 muscle. Vietnam sniper held his legs and he reached over the brownstone, come 773 00:59:19.920 --> 00:59:23.280 on, reached over and pulled the lady up from the top of the brown 774 00:59:23.360 --> 00:59:28.559 stone up onto the roof. It was so good, it was before just 775 00:59:28.679 --> 00:59:32.639 before I got there. It was so good that the chiefs the deputies came 776 00:59:32.679 --> 00:59:36.840 down and they said, we wanted to reenact that. We don't believe this 777 00:59:37.039 --> 00:59:40.599 happened. So they got the tooth John Fulham and Tom create a Vietnam slide, 778 00:59:40.639 --> 00:59:47.519 but reenacted what they did, not over the not over the parrot laying 779 00:59:47.639 --> 00:59:51.559 on the roof with one you know how you height. You have to trust 780 00:59:51.599 --> 00:59:57.800 that guy. Holy. So after they reenacted it, did they get that? 781 00:59:57.920 --> 01:00:00.920 Did they get the medal? Then? Yeah? Hell yeah, he's 782 01:00:01.000 --> 01:00:08.400 talking, Hey they got the metal. But nice first incident, the chauffeur 783 01:00:08.599 --> 01:00:14.519 was coming in and he was he bartended during the day and he comes into 784 01:00:14.599 --> 01:00:16.639 work and he was a little late senior man in the truck. Great fireal, 785 01:00:16.920 --> 01:00:22.840 great filon and this guy's covered. He said, Brandon, Lieutenant, 786 01:00:22.159 --> 01:00:25.119 he doesn't know what's going on. I forget where he's from, but he's 787 01:00:25.159 --> 01:00:29.599 not from a busy area. And he goes, who's my chaulf And I 788 01:00:29.639 --> 01:00:30.960 said, he'll be in about a half hour, forty five minutes. He 789 01:00:31.000 --> 01:00:35.320 goes, it's you know, six thirty. Now he'll be here. So 790 01:00:35.760 --> 01:00:37.880 he comes in and he looks like he does, you're not driving me? 791 01:00:38.960 --> 01:00:44.000 And Willy goes, what did you just say? He goes, you're not 792 01:00:44.119 --> 01:00:47.000 driving me? Meanwhile, Willie's been a senior chauffer for fifteen years. Open 793 01:00:47.079 --> 01:00:50.920 here, yeah, yeah, yeah, no, no, I'm the chauffeur. 794 01:00:51.480 --> 01:00:52.800 I'm driving the rick. If you want to sit next to me, 795 01:00:53.000 --> 01:00:57.920 you can. I don't know where you're going to be. I know where 796 01:00:57.920 --> 01:01:00.320 I'm gonna be. I don't know where you're going to be. I know 797 01:01:00.360 --> 01:01:02.920 where I'm going to be. Exactly what he said. So he winds up. 798 01:01:04.039 --> 01:01:07.639 The lieutenant said something to him, and he smacked him, and luckily 799 01:01:07.760 --> 01:01:12.280 we got Chief Patterson was a great, well i'm saying great a lot, 800 01:01:12.360 --> 01:01:16.400 but they were. He was a black chief, the calmest guy I ever 801 01:01:16.599 --> 01:01:21.199 saw in my entire life. He would as the companies would come in on 802 01:01:21.320 --> 01:01:28.199 a second or third law, he would shake Garyway's hand. Right. Gonzo 803 01:01:28.440 --> 01:01:31.440 put that one down in the book, Gonzo, I'll do that let me 804 01:01:31.519 --> 01:01:37.159 write that right now, Lieutenant Rao, who you're with, I'm with the 805 01:01:37.320 --> 01:01:39.400 seventy one. Do you think you could get a line for me? And 806 01:01:39.599 --> 01:01:44.360 just that's the way yacht. The building's fully involved, and he's could you 807 01:01:44.400 --> 01:01:47.360 get online here? Cammas guy. He happened to be the chief that night 808 01:01:47.719 --> 01:01:51.960 and he called the new lieutenant up and he says, how long if you 809 01:01:51.960 --> 01:01:54.280 have been bouncing? And the lieutenant goes, I'm brand new, maybe a 810 01:01:54.360 --> 01:01:58.760 week, two weeks. He goes, I'm gonna get your spot. Nothing 811 01:01:58.840 --> 01:02:00.960 happened here tonight and I'm getting your spot. And that's what happened. He 812 01:02:01.000 --> 01:02:07.400 incident how to wash it? And then one of our chiefs, good guy, 813 01:02:07.960 --> 01:02:09.719 but he used to make sure you knew he was the chief like and 814 01:02:09.800 --> 01:02:13.440 he was a little guy, smaller than me. We call him shorty pants. 815 01:02:14.039 --> 01:02:19.280 He he mouthed off the probably our toughest guy in the truck, great, 816 01:02:19.360 --> 01:02:22.480 great guy, great fireman, but a tough, tough guy. And 817 01:02:22.559 --> 01:02:25.800 he mounted off to him and he had been a cop. He went up 818 01:02:25.840 --> 01:02:30.199 to his locker, took handcuffs and he handcuffed in the chair and he says, 819 01:02:30.760 --> 01:02:34.239 you're not getting out of the handcuffs. So you apologize to me. 820 01:02:34.719 --> 01:02:37.559 They get him run just as he's being handcuffed, they get a run. 821 01:02:37.679 --> 01:02:39.400 Everybody goes. It turned out out to be a job, and it was 822 01:02:39.440 --> 01:02:43.840 everybody's going, we don't know what we got. And he goes downstairs and 823 01:02:43.920 --> 01:02:45.639 he tells he, hey, the Chief's not going to make this one. 824 01:02:45.679 --> 01:02:54.840 I suggest he apologized. And then the third incident, this is on within 825 01:02:54.920 --> 01:03:00.119 a month. So I'm brand new and I see these. You know you 826 01:03:00.199 --> 01:03:04.519 talk about salty guys. These guys were salty. The third one is I'm 827 01:03:04.559 --> 01:03:08.039 in the basement with Mike Steele, was sitting opposite one another long table. 828 01:03:08.679 --> 01:03:13.639 We got a long table and John Fulham, who had just made the rescue 829 01:03:13.679 --> 01:03:17.280 a few months prior, wanted to go. He bunted out he wanted to 830 01:03:17.320 --> 01:03:22.400 go to one twenty seven Trumck. So he's sitting at the table, ahole 831 01:03:22.440 --> 01:03:28.199 bunch of senior guys and me and Mike Steele and Shorty Pants comes down and 832 01:03:28.280 --> 01:03:34.280 he says, Johnny wanna just came out and guess a lot, you're not 833 01:03:34.480 --> 01:03:38.360 on the order. It's crazy because he wanted though he's gonna be on that 834 01:03:38.599 --> 01:03:42.800 order, and the chief just rubbed it in guess right, you're not on 835 01:03:42.960 --> 01:03:46.440 the order. Well, Fulham takes a six pack of coke and flings it 836 01:03:46.519 --> 01:03:50.480 at the cheet and he flings it at him. Well, me and Mike, 837 01:03:50.920 --> 01:03:53.079 we're there a month. We go under the table. It was like 838 01:03:53.159 --> 01:04:02.039 the Three Stooges. We bumped heads under the table and we scrawled something getting 839 01:04:02.360 --> 01:04:10.840 up he so we sucked that. It about. That's all within a month 840 01:04:10.880 --> 01:04:18.159 that happened. It was like the mm hmm we lost the sund He's gotta 841 01:04:18.199 --> 01:04:28.280 go out on the side again. Dude, that guy is funny man, 842 01:04:28.519 --> 01:04:33.920 Holy mackerel, he's that was going on in the fucking seventies. Holy mackerel. 843 01:04:34.599 --> 01:04:38.320 Is there a month? This was one of his jobs that he was 844 01:04:38.400 --> 01:04:40.719 talking about to us. Said, while he's coming in, see if he 845 01:04:41.639 --> 01:04:45.840 comes back. We have that Brooklyn picture to coops if you want to at 846 01:04:45.880 --> 01:04:48.480 the end, it was that was a three bag of from he's back in, 847 01:04:48.920 --> 01:04:56.280 he's back up there, we go, no, no sound, go 848 01:04:56.440 --> 01:04:59.320 back out? How come? What do you think that's happening? I don't 849 01:04:59.360 --> 01:05:00.599 know. It's his he's on an older I pad, he said, so 850 01:05:03.840 --> 01:05:06.840 I'll have to get his wife and that he might have to Oh, there. 851 01:05:06.880 --> 01:05:11.679 He just disconnected. So I told you was going to be a great 852 01:05:11.760 --> 01:05:20.639 podcast. Oh man, So oh I didn't. You didn't even gett his 853 01:05:20.719 --> 01:05:27.320 first month, for God's sake, talking about any of the stories he told 854 01:05:27.360 --> 01:05:31.199 me about. Yet, no, come on, no, no, no, 855 01:05:31.519 --> 01:05:35.039 no, good no boy, no, no is he muted? No? 856 01:05:35.320 --> 01:05:40.159 No, he's not muted here? You know he was, Uh what 857 01:05:40.280 --> 01:05:42.119 can we what did we have to do? God? What do you think 858 01:05:42.239 --> 01:05:44.840 exactly? That he was fine? And when we had to send him out 859 01:05:44.880 --> 01:05:47.079 and bring him back in and it worked fine. So I'll have to try 860 01:05:47.119 --> 01:05:50.400 to do it again one more time. Try to go back out. Now, 861 01:05:54.880 --> 01:05:57.559 let me kick him out myself. Let me see what happens until him 862 01:05:57.559 --> 01:06:00.559 we'll come back in. See if I was kicking him out the last time, 863 01:06:00.599 --> 01:06:02.719 you kicked him out? Exactly what we just did? We touch? 864 01:06:02.760 --> 01:06:05.119 Why? I told him go out and come back in? And Richter says, 865 01:06:05.159 --> 01:06:08.960 Jimmy was a riot. I was in the volage with him. I'll 866 01:06:09.000 --> 01:06:15.800 bet man has my face hurt? It's only an hour. Yeah, I'm 867 01:06:15.840 --> 01:06:19.400 trying to think what we're gonna do if you can't get on like what the 868 01:06:19.440 --> 01:06:24.800 phone? Letbe get on his phone? Yeah, yeah, I'll take a 869 01:06:25.079 --> 01:06:31.320 quick whiz. Yeah, malla, see if you come back in well, 870 01:06:31.360 --> 01:06:42.000 anyway, stand by folks, let's see. Yeah, we're good here you 871 01:06:42.159 --> 01:06:45.039 are. I want to any time on this, you know, I want 872 01:06:45.119 --> 01:06:49.000 more time. Now, we'll add a little bit more for you. Your 873 01:06:49.079 --> 01:06:54.039 muted, your muted, you muted. I said, you got it. 874 01:06:54.079 --> 01:06:57.840 We'll add you. We'll added three minutes for your Yeah, I have, 875 01:06:58.119 --> 01:07:02.320 I have. Like I said, he's the mango guy. And one morning 876 01:07:02.400 --> 01:07:06.440 he gets up and I was kind of like a late guy. I used 877 01:07:06.480 --> 01:07:11.440 to like to get up maybe nine thirtyclock. So he wakes me up and 878 01:07:11.480 --> 01:07:15.920 he goes, get your chitchen. Round up the boys, Louis ten o'clock. 879 01:07:16.000 --> 01:07:20.800 What's going on. We're getting cobblestones because where I work, which was 880 01:07:20.840 --> 01:07:25.440 good, is we had the peniments, the old wam Knew Law tenements, 881 01:07:26.119 --> 01:07:29.920 we had a commercial area, and we had brown stones, so we had 882 01:07:29.960 --> 01:07:31.639 a little bit of everything. You know. We get the car fires left 883 01:07:31.679 --> 01:07:35.599 and right. Every day, we three car fires. So he says, 884 01:07:35.679 --> 01:07:40.480 round up the men. We're getting cobble stones way up the ascent of our 885 01:07:40.639 --> 01:07:44.840 district. So we go down here. We're loading the cobblestones. We got 886 01:07:44.880 --> 01:07:49.320 the hose bed pat and his thing was, you make me if I'm happy, 887 01:07:49.360 --> 01:07:54.639 if Mary's happy as wife, I'm happy. And if I'm happy, 888 01:07:54.719 --> 01:07:59.679 you guys are happy. Yes, round the boys up, We get the 889 01:07:59.760 --> 01:08:03.480 cop stones, whould get a job and it's we're supposed to be second due 890 01:08:04.440 --> 01:08:08.599 and we wind up. You know it happens, you're out a bi or 891 01:08:08.639 --> 01:08:15.800 something or whatever. We wind up third do But our chief, our chief, 892 01:08:16.840 --> 01:08:19.399 we had a chief and the two six came in and I said it 893 01:08:19.560 --> 01:08:23.960 one fourth for this five. One four must have been out. And it 894 01:08:24.079 --> 01:08:26.920 was a guy that was a grumpy, grumpy chief. I don't even know 895 01:08:26.960 --> 01:08:29.279 why he's on a job, but it should have been somewhere else. But 896 01:08:29.439 --> 01:08:31.680 he would yell at everything. So now we pull in third through. We 897 01:08:31.880 --> 01:08:35.680 raced down. We pull in third dough and he meets us at the engine 898 01:08:36.000 --> 01:08:40.880 and he's screaming at us, get in on the line. We're losing it. 899 01:08:41.000 --> 01:08:45.239 Get another line. So Mike and I jump off the back. Mike's 900 01:08:45.279 --> 01:08:47.359 my partner at me, I got the knob. As we get to the 901 01:08:47.439 --> 01:08:53.079 back, we both remember the host Ben is covered with cob with cobblestones. 902 01:08:53.119 --> 01:08:57.920 Holy ship, you can't you can't pull nothing. She goes back to like 903 01:08:58.039 --> 01:09:02.159 the command, you know, and he looks down the block and all you 904 01:09:02.279 --> 01:09:09.079 see his hands screaming at us. You put Jess all and send the cobble 905 01:09:09.119 --> 01:09:18.479 stones. And being that was Phil Fowell. He just was a great, 906 01:09:18.560 --> 01:09:24.079 great guy. And it was funny because the chauffur we had. His chauffeur 907 01:09:24.239 --> 01:09:29.279 was Louis Morales, another good, good guy. But for some reason at 908 01:09:29.359 --> 01:09:31.119 times Louis was a good fire I mean didn't want to be a chaulfur. 909 01:09:31.640 --> 01:09:34.079 And we were all young, so they said, lo, you gotta you 910 01:09:34.159 --> 01:09:39.159 gotta go to Shelfer school because you know Johnson's you're here a year or two 911 01:09:39.199 --> 01:09:43.119 and blah blah blah. So Louis would drive, but he would always make 912 01:09:43.159 --> 01:09:46.600 a hat. If it was multiple lines and we were the first dude, 913 01:09:47.520 --> 01:09:53.960 we would get charged. Online would get charged Thurnder and follow would always run 914 01:09:54.039 --> 01:09:56.920 out of your office and forget something. Well, we had a good job. 915 01:09:57.680 --> 01:10:01.479 It was a top floor fire were first to but our fourth guy broke 916 01:10:01.560 --> 01:10:05.560 it down and hooked on the opposite society, on the office society. The 917 01:10:05.680 --> 01:10:11.960 next company comes in hooked in front of Louis. Phil fowre great fireman who 918 01:10:12.000 --> 01:10:15.439 won the die in a fire. He's got cane shoes on, no boots, 919 01:10:15.960 --> 01:10:19.600 cane shoes, you know, like mytt with caine's on it. And 920 01:10:20.119 --> 01:10:26.399 it flowers roaring through the department door. And we got no water, and 921 01:10:26.560 --> 01:10:30.000 I had hit the holes and it must have been a residual of water from 922 01:10:30.039 --> 01:10:32.880 him whatever else happened, and maybe a spit got out, and it was 923 01:10:33.119 --> 01:10:40.119 enough that between the heat of the fire and a little bit of water that 924 01:10:40.359 --> 01:10:48.760 fell out of the nausal fowl shoes are on fire and he's he's hopping and 925 01:10:48.880 --> 01:10:53.520 at the same time he's the guy that started. He's trying to cool Louis. 926 01:10:55.680 --> 01:11:09.039 Louis, it was just a fool. We started out nothing fires when 927 01:11:13.920 --> 01:11:19.600 nothing that was still foul. The last foul story, Oh my god. 928 01:11:20.079 --> 01:11:27.079 He mangoed and he had a daughter manned out to be a cop. But 929 01:11:27.279 --> 01:11:30.479 she at the time, she was a young you know, maybe seventeen or 930 01:11:30.520 --> 01:11:35.319 eighteen, but a tough girl. So he gets we're working a night to 931 01:11:35.399 --> 01:11:41.720 him and he says, uh, load up, just so it is on 932 01:11:41.840 --> 01:11:45.000 the rate. We're going about eight blocks. We had one street and nobody 933 01:11:45.079 --> 01:11:48.199 knew the name of it. It was like a rare street with just a 934 01:11:48.359 --> 01:11:51.960 block and it was nothing on it, but he found coming in. He 935 01:11:53.079 --> 01:11:57.159 used to scout around because he loved cars, and he wants to mango this 936 01:11:57.359 --> 01:12:03.439 car. And it's pouring ready, so he's out with replyings and everything. 937 01:12:03.840 --> 01:12:08.319 He's trying to get the transmission out of this freaking car to get up. 938 01:12:08.359 --> 01:12:11.560 You know, it's up on block and he's trying to get this transmit to 939 01:12:11.720 --> 01:12:15.199 drop the transmission and it's raining. So we're sitting in the cab and we're 940 01:12:15.239 --> 01:12:18.399 watching this out. So next thing you know, he comes back to the 941 01:12:18.479 --> 01:12:23.159 cab and I figure he's gonna tell us to help him. So he comes 942 01:12:23.279 --> 01:12:26.439 up and he opens the door and we're having a good time. You know, 943 01:12:26.479 --> 01:12:29.840 when we're in the cab, we're just having some fun. He goes 944 01:12:30.680 --> 01:12:33.680 put that stuff down, so we drop what we're doing, breaking, you 945 01:12:33.760 --> 01:12:38.720 know, Solda and then put it down and he goes get the toe cables 946 01:12:38.760 --> 01:12:45.279 out. So he goes, at your time, you set the tables down. 947 01:12:45.520 --> 01:12:48.279 He worked the tone of car. He fly, no wheels, nothing 948 01:12:49.640 --> 01:12:54.239 looked at kidding me. You know what. I always respect him. He 949 01:12:54.359 --> 01:12:56.119 was a great guy. But I used to tease him. I go, 950 01:12:56.560 --> 01:13:00.239 it's got nothing on it. It's gonna well. We told the car like 951 01:13:00.399 --> 01:13:08.880 eight blocks through the South Bronx the spot, and he got it back into 952 01:13:08.960 --> 01:13:13.760 the firehouse where we you know, would where he could work on it. 953 01:13:13.920 --> 01:13:15.079 We had a little park a lot and he worked on a freaking car. 954 01:13:15.199 --> 01:13:19.680 But he was just a funny guy, a good fireman. And uh, 955 01:13:20.119 --> 01:13:23.359 you know he like I said, he had he wanted to die on the 956 01:13:23.439 --> 01:13:27.199 fire and he had the heart attack and but he was a he was a 957 01:13:27.239 --> 01:13:30.600 really good guy. But one thing I missed. I know I missed a 958 01:13:30.640 --> 01:13:35.800 lot, and I don't mean a boy you guys, But one thing I 959 01:13:35.960 --> 01:13:40.640 missed is when I got there, I was very depressing. Is we had 960 01:13:40.640 --> 01:13:45.479 an interchange. And you've heard about the interview, and uh, one thing 961 01:13:45.560 --> 01:13:47.239 I wanted to ask a little quiz question. I don't know if you had 962 01:13:47.279 --> 01:13:50.119 it on any of your podcast, but on the side of our engine sixty, 963 01:13:50.479 --> 01:13:53.800 we had a seventy five map. There was a whale on it. 964 01:13:53.920 --> 01:13:59.439 You know what that was? Oh well, not the that was water. 965 01:14:00.319 --> 01:14:04.600 We had that and the first couple of jobs we'd go to. It was 966 01:14:04.720 --> 01:14:09.920 supposed to cut down the friction lawsuit right right right, slip it slip it 967 01:14:09.960 --> 01:14:15.600 through or something right, and we'd be sliding all of you know. The 968 01:14:15.720 --> 01:14:17.359 most they large the line, you know what I mean, you have it 969 01:14:17.439 --> 01:14:23.039 on your shoes going up on the stage, and it was unbelievable. But 970 01:14:23.640 --> 01:14:27.800 the pressing, the pressing pall was we had anterchange and every third night you 971 01:14:27.920 --> 01:14:32.279 left, so us young guys, we couldn't pick what I'm working with with 972 01:14:32.439 --> 01:14:35.600 lou with coops and stuff like that. The gods, they would tell you 973 01:14:35.720 --> 01:14:41.319 when you worked the twenty four and you'd always get stuck and we'd be out 974 01:14:41.760 --> 01:14:45.960 in Our company was three sixteen. It was our interchange. And then my 975 01:14:45.119 --> 01:14:50.199 second year we went to two fifty nine and you'd sit out there and you 976 01:14:50.399 --> 01:14:56.279 hear Bronx announcing all hands or a second alarm and the beat. We had 977 01:14:56.359 --> 01:15:00.600 two to one boxes two one two two two one two three, and you 978 01:15:00.680 --> 01:15:04.039 know it's the press. We want to fight fires. So our chief, 979 01:15:05.359 --> 01:15:10.640 our captain used to call out, well, the first thing with three sixteen 980 01:15:11.560 --> 01:15:15.439 is they had we had a shovel call to keep the heat on. And 981 01:15:15.600 --> 01:15:18.640 this one night we go out to three sixteen and we used to always have 982 01:15:18.760 --> 01:15:21.800 fun going there were single engine. We'd do whatever I mean, we had 983 01:15:21.880 --> 01:15:26.039 fun everywhere, but we were just a fun break, a bunch of guys 984 01:15:26.279 --> 01:15:29.640 who we think were good fining. That's the motto. And we go out 985 01:15:29.680 --> 01:15:34.760 to three sixteen and one thing leads to another and nobody's thinking about shoveling call 986 01:15:34.960 --> 01:15:40.159 rolling that movie who shovel Call? We forget about it. We get up 987 01:15:40.199 --> 01:15:44.279 in the morning because Stay used to bring our rig back and then we get 988 01:15:44.319 --> 01:15:46.760 it. That's how it worked, because we'd leave a man back and our 989 01:15:46.880 --> 01:15:50.880 rig was packed for the Bronx and their rig was packed with Queen's fire and 990 01:15:51.000 --> 01:15:56.000 you know three sixteen. Yeah, they had bond doors they used to open 991 01:15:56.079 --> 01:15:59.439 no left the doors used to open the barn doors. Jarney Street, I 992 01:15:59.520 --> 01:16:01.000 think, yeah, I think you're right on that. Yeah, I think 993 01:16:01.039 --> 01:16:05.640 you're right. So we we don't shovel the call. And what happens is 994 01:16:06.159 --> 01:16:10.640 is the fire goes out. Now I know nothing about coal flys, but 995 01:16:10.760 --> 01:16:15.239 I found out quickly that when coal goes out, hours and hours for to 996 01:16:15.399 --> 01:16:18.279 get stoke up, to get the heat got it started. Again. Right. 997 01:16:18.359 --> 01:16:20.880 Yeah, Well, we get up in the morning, Mike and I 998 01:16:21.039 --> 01:16:25.439 again my partner work. We get up in the morning, going man it's 999 01:16:25.560 --> 01:16:29.680 colding here. We're both looking at each other. Oh my god. So 1000 01:16:30.319 --> 01:16:32.600 they pull a rig in and we no, hello, good, but we 1001 01:16:33.439 --> 01:16:39.479 see it. We get back to quarters. Sure enough the phone rings like 1002 01:16:39.520 --> 01:16:41.720 an idiot. I don't know who it is. I answered the house watch 1003 01:16:41.800 --> 01:16:46.840 sixty sixty seventeen. But fire Majustin, were you just out here in three 1004 01:16:47.000 --> 01:16:50.560 sixteen? I said, yeah, yeah, we will when we see you. 1005 01:16:50.720 --> 01:16:56.439 Guys, we're kicking your ranchers were closing in here, so we let 1006 01:16:56.520 --> 01:17:00.479 the call go out. It was short, but it probably took until three 1007 01:17:00.560 --> 01:17:03.920 d afternoon to get the fire out, as we forget allway. But we 1008 01:17:04.000 --> 01:17:10.319 were going and so getting so depressed. Our captain would call up. There 1009 01:17:10.399 --> 01:17:13.399 was a chief and a sixth pot time. I heard him mention before on 1010 01:17:13.920 --> 01:17:18.359 on your podcast, Chief Memocheck. He was a deputy commander. Great, 1011 01:17:18.439 --> 01:17:21.720 great guy. He turned out. He was a fire instructor in Suffolk, 1012 01:17:23.359 --> 01:17:29.600 old salty guy. In fact, he saw us, He saw Mike and 1013 01:17:29.680 --> 01:17:33.600 I in our group stretching. We used to stretch fire escape stretch. We 1014 01:17:33.680 --> 01:17:36.279 used to a fight. When you get on you got a fire escape poard. 1015 01:17:38.239 --> 01:17:41.560 We took that through. Righting the garbage we'd stretch around a fire escape, 1016 01:17:41.880 --> 01:17:44.760 and he used to grab our officers because we did it more than once 1017 01:17:45.119 --> 01:17:47.399 and we did a quick stretch. It was like an interior stretcher. That's 1018 01:17:47.439 --> 01:17:53.960 how right. And he used to grab him. Asso never fails. When 1019 01:17:54.000 --> 01:17:57.840 he was a deputy at a multiple regis stretching, he would say, if 1020 01:17:57.920 --> 01:18:00.880 I see that act again, he goes. First of all, I didn't 1021 01:18:00.920 --> 01:18:04.199 believe what those guys did. They got up there like unbelievable. But if 1022 01:18:04.239 --> 01:18:08.119 I had to see you guys do began, there's going to be hell to 1023 01:18:08.199 --> 01:18:11.039 play pay. But we used to just have you know, if there were 1024 01:18:11.079 --> 01:18:13.479 so many lines going to need to deal with it. Instead of right, 1025 01:18:13.520 --> 01:18:15.760 you'd have to go up the fire escape. Theirs went up the fire escape. 1026 01:18:16.920 --> 01:18:20.960 We uh, so we're into change, and our captain would call and 1027 01:18:21.039 --> 01:18:27.199 he'd always he got He started by saying, Lou's wife's having a baby in 1028 01:18:27.399 --> 01:18:32.000 any day. We got to keep the boys back because the senior guys or 1029 01:18:32.079 --> 01:18:38.800 he wouldn't go. And then that kept going on, and then Chief Patterson, 1030 01:18:38.960 --> 01:18:42.239 that black chief. I said, there was a great guy. On 1031 01:18:42.359 --> 01:18:45.880 a Friday Saturday, when he interchange came, he would he would grant the 1032 01:18:45.920 --> 01:18:49.199 you officer, and they were not I'm not knocking that, but they were 1033 01:18:49.319 --> 01:18:54.319 all the time guys. They probably half of them probably did great fire, 1034 01:18:54.439 --> 01:18:58.319 dude, but now they're you know, they're older. And they would come 1035 01:18:58.399 --> 01:19:01.439 in and he would grant the tennant, always shake his hand. He goes, 1036 01:19:01.479 --> 01:19:06.079 listen, Louke, if you don't mind, the freaking natives are getting 1037 01:19:06.119 --> 01:19:10.199 restless tonight. We think we're gonna have a good night, would you mind 1038 01:19:10.279 --> 01:19:15.199 going back and will stay? So they would go back and we'd stay. 1039 01:19:15.760 --> 01:19:18.760 Yeah, and we'd do the childbirth again and finally met check. We called 1040 01:19:18.800 --> 01:19:23.680 that captain and he said, listen to me. He said, over the 1041 01:19:23.840 --> 01:19:28.920 last four months, according to my calculations, you've had seventy three babies in 1042 01:19:29.039 --> 01:19:35.720 your flag. So we would get the change, and then we went to 1043 01:19:38.359 --> 01:19:41.119 two point fifty nine per year, and then we went back. But it 1044 01:19:41.239 --> 01:19:44.159 was funny because while he was there and the old time, there's no way 1045 01:19:44.199 --> 01:19:47.000 better stories than me. But we'd have the bells. They were weaning off 1046 01:19:47.079 --> 01:19:53.199 the bells, so we would have the bells from nine to noon. And 1047 01:19:53.880 --> 01:19:57.760 you've probably heard stories about pampalonho that a pampalone is a tough tough guy. 1048 01:19:58.479 --> 01:20:00.600 He was from forty two trucks, the Elephant Man. He was one of 1049 01:20:00.640 --> 01:20:04.880 our lieutenants and he was just if you looked at him, you got intimidated. 1050 01:20:05.439 --> 01:20:13.880 So he he with Mike and I are sweeping the apparatus four eighty three 1051 01:20:13.960 --> 01:20:18.000 shoots by lights and saty twenty ninth suits by lights and sort the bells. 1052 01:20:18.039 --> 01:20:21.520 It was like nine thirty. They banged out the bells and we never counted 1053 01:20:21.560 --> 01:20:28.039 them right before my gods blade. He would always come out and he was 1054 01:20:28.199 --> 01:20:31.399 just an intimidating guy, great guy, and he would just look at him 1055 01:20:31.399 --> 01:20:39.479 and you go, excuse me, Who's who's counting the bells? Me we 1056 01:20:39.600 --> 01:20:42.479 were off one digit, but if it went from two one or two to 1057 01:20:42.479 --> 01:20:45.640 two to two three, so we thought, yeah, you don't go, 1058 01:20:45.800 --> 01:20:51.079 yeah, yeah you don't. You're not going home. Box right down eighty 1059 01:20:51.119 --> 01:20:57.800 three, ten seventy five. It wasn't. So he had one of the 1060 01:20:57.920 --> 01:21:03.279 senior guys just almost like a joke, but he'd had them dig out and 1061 01:21:03.399 --> 01:21:06.640 Mike and I had to count the bells to make sure we got the bells 1062 01:21:06.760 --> 01:21:13.000 right. But I had a Pampala was such an intimidating guy. One of 1063 01:21:13.079 --> 01:21:16.520 the guys. Like I said, ten guys came, probably seven went to 1064 01:21:16.640 --> 01:21:20.439 the engine and two of the guys want to quit because he was just that 1065 01:21:20.600 --> 01:21:27.199 intimidating, and I got I lucked out. I didn't good with him because 1066 01:21:27.239 --> 01:21:30.359 we had one of the Bronx spectaculars. I worked New Year's Eve. I'm 1067 01:21:30.359 --> 01:21:33.359 only on the job three months. I probably got to the firehouse August September 1068 01:21:33.600 --> 01:21:38.600 maybe some Pembroke Doba. New Year's Eve. We get a tremendous job occupied 1069 01:21:38.680 --> 01:21:43.279 building and I was a volleyme one too. I knew what fires were. 1070 01:21:44.199 --> 01:21:47.800 But I look up and this thing's going from the first floor almost through the 1071 01:21:47.920 --> 01:21:51.079 roof. It was, and it was occupied. People are coming all over. 1072 01:21:51.119 --> 01:21:55.840 They had lit, which they did commonly by us and other places. 1073 01:21:55.840 --> 01:21:58.800 They lift the stairwell up and took everything. They wanted to kill somebody, 1074 01:21:58.800 --> 01:22:02.640 and so they lit all the well. I get out of the rake and 1075 01:22:02.800 --> 01:22:08.600 I'm looking up and I fall over the current and pampalone gives me a look 1076 01:22:08.640 --> 01:22:13.359 and he's going, oh my god, this is the guy I got yet, 1077 01:22:13.800 --> 01:22:16.920 Oh my god. So he didn't know what to expect from me or 1078 01:22:16.960 --> 01:22:20.079 what. But anyway, it turns out I'm the fourth guy on the line. 1079 01:22:20.920 --> 01:22:25.479 We have a We had a guy that was one of the biggest guys 1080 01:22:25.520 --> 01:22:29.840 in the fight department at the time, Bruce, and he was about three 1081 01:22:29.920 --> 01:22:33.119 hundred and fifty pounds, but he could move. He actually skied pretty well, 1082 01:22:33.520 --> 01:22:38.840 but he was enormous, enormous, and guys always wanted to get behind 1083 01:22:38.920 --> 01:22:44.119 him because he blocked everything. So he had the nozzle Bobby Wasp, who 1084 01:22:44.199 --> 01:22:47.479 eventually great firehim and eventually was on fire control. Then got he got to 1085 01:22:47.600 --> 01:22:53.520 seventeen. He was in sixty that night. He was back up. Then 1086 01:22:53.600 --> 01:22:56.479 we had this guy Tommy O'Connell, who was a legend in eighty three and 1087 01:22:56.560 --> 01:23:00.239 twenty nine, I mean, tremendous nozzman. He was third, and then 1088 01:23:00.279 --> 01:23:03.439 they had me and we're moving in and we're moving because we got to hit 1089 01:23:03.479 --> 01:23:08.920 the first floor so the other companies can get above us. So back then, 1090 01:23:09.119 --> 01:23:13.279 at times it was an interchange company. You always left the guy on 1091 01:23:13.359 --> 01:23:15.960 the floor to make sure they had the fly floor before you start stretching up. 1092 01:23:16.319 --> 01:23:19.600 If it was our guys eighty three, seventy one, forty one, 1093 01:23:19.760 --> 01:23:23.119 you just went up. You didn't wait. You knew that guys had it, 1094 01:23:23.720 --> 01:23:27.720 so we're starting to move up. It was a long hallway and I 1095 01:23:27.960 --> 01:23:30.119 hear screaming. I'm like, oh my god, what the freak is this? 1096 01:23:30.239 --> 01:23:35.039 And I'm three months And next thing you know, Bruce Wick obum all 1097 01:23:35.119 --> 01:23:40.239 three hundred and fifty pounds. They're passing him or trying to pass him out. 1098 01:23:40.680 --> 01:23:45.520 He gets burnt bad, so he's being passed back. Thirty seconds later, 1099 01:23:45.680 --> 01:23:49.359 Bobby wats the backup. He's screaming, he gets burnt. They're backing 1100 01:23:49.479 --> 01:23:56.920 him out. So the next thing I know, it's I'm it's Timmy O'Connell, 1101 01:23:57.039 --> 01:24:00.399 the greatest smiles of in and maybe play. He's new and Pampalon doesn't 1102 01:24:00.439 --> 01:24:05.560 want him. He wants me the proby and he's screaming. He never wore 1103 01:24:05.560 --> 01:24:10.479 a mask, and he's screaming, get my proby up here. I don't 1104 01:24:10.520 --> 01:24:13.479 want to detail. I want my man. I'm like, oh my god, 1105 01:24:13.840 --> 01:24:23.640 everyone's part. I'm getting out here. So I get up on the 1106 01:24:23.720 --> 01:24:30.640 line. He pushes like Tanye O'Connell behind him and he sits on my leg. 1107 01:24:30.119 --> 01:24:32.800 I mean the you know, the duck pison. I'm gonna do duck 1108 01:24:32.880 --> 01:24:36.680 walk and he sits on my leg Pampalon back then was probably about two thirty 1109 01:24:38.720 --> 01:24:44.119 solid and I'm on my leg and I'm screaming at him, get off my 1110 01:24:44.720 --> 01:24:46.159 No, I'm screaming at him. I want to move in. That's what 1111 01:24:46.239 --> 01:24:50.960 I said first. And I had a mask at the time. I was 1112 01:24:51.039 --> 01:24:56.079 brand new how to put them. So he's going, you're not backing out. 1113 01:24:56.279 --> 01:25:00.560 I said, I I want to move. I want to You're not 1114 01:25:00.800 --> 01:25:03.319 going anywhere. So finally I ripped my mask off and I said, you're 1115 01:25:03.439 --> 01:25:10.920 on my legs. And we did a good you know, we did a 1116 01:25:11.000 --> 01:25:14.800 good job. And from that point on he still would yell at me, 1117 01:25:15.239 --> 01:25:18.960 but I was like his Mike and I were like his pride people. Because 1118 01:25:19.840 --> 01:25:23.479 it was a tremendous fire. I think it went to a third or fourth 1119 01:25:23.520 --> 01:25:26.760 alarm, and we were first bull and it was it was. It was 1120 01:25:26.840 --> 01:25:30.640 good. It's funny because I look back and I four house fires in one 1121 01:25:30.720 --> 01:25:33.560 tour. You know, we'd get ten jobs. I must have went to 1122 01:25:33.640 --> 01:25:38.760 maybe thirty or so forty house fires lies and one tour their first time. 1123 01:25:39.439 --> 01:25:42.560 And there's nothing like a tenement, I know. You know a lot of 1124 01:25:42.600 --> 01:25:46.520 guys having four tenements or maybe they had, but especially when they're upper the 1125 01:25:46.640 --> 01:25:51.399 upper floors, because you're walking up and people are coming down, and you 1126 01:25:51.560 --> 01:25:56.520 know the flyers up there whereas and I'm not not the house fires, but 1127 01:25:56.600 --> 01:26:00.359 a lot of private dwellings. You're almost met with the fire. You don't 1128 01:26:00.359 --> 01:26:02.640 have time really to stretch and here's to fire it generally, or maybe you 1129 01:26:02.720 --> 01:26:05.720 go to the second floor. But here you walk and we had five and 1130 01:26:05.840 --> 01:26:11.079 six stories fires in the railroad flat and you walk it up and you going, 1131 01:26:11.159 --> 01:26:14.920 this is fantastic, and a funny story about that. We might steal. 1132 01:26:15.800 --> 01:26:16.960 Like I said, we were the Nozzle team. He never tried to 1133 01:26:17.000 --> 01:26:21.399 fight me for the Nozle Vietnam ven He was a platoon leader in Vietnam. 1134 01:26:21.880 --> 01:26:26.159 Tough, tough guy, but he'd always be willing to be my doctor. 1135 01:26:26.800 --> 01:26:30.159 And we had a fly, of course from the floor roh. Another spectacular. 1136 01:26:30.840 --> 01:26:35.279 In fact, Patty McAndrews our senior chauffeur, later said I never saw 1137 01:26:35.319 --> 01:26:39.880 a fly blow out a window that it blew out, not just out the 1138 01:26:39.920 --> 01:26:43.039 window, it blew like almost across the street. It was the fifth floor 1139 01:26:43.039 --> 01:26:49.159 of the sixth story tenable and we're going up the four to zero precincts across 1140 01:26:49.199 --> 01:26:53.920 the street and as we're going up, you know, you got to get 1141 01:26:53.960 --> 01:26:56.720 around the newer post going up, and we got to get to the fifth 1142 01:26:56.760 --> 01:27:00.760 floor to put it out, and the ruckus wants us to get there and 1143 01:27:00.760 --> 01:27:04.399 they're gonna go above. In fact, Pete Leziska is one of the most 1144 01:27:04.439 --> 01:27:09.039 tremendous firemen. He came on just after me. Big guy he was. 1145 01:27:09.159 --> 01:27:12.000 I was talking to you about him. He was lieutenant one seventeen, but 1146 01:27:12.119 --> 01:27:15.239 he had a lot long career before he became. He took the task and 1147 01:27:15.399 --> 01:27:19.119 he metal guy. He got a good grab, a good metal and a 1148 01:27:19.159 --> 01:27:23.079 good grab. But we're walking steal and I at first, you know, 1149 01:27:23.239 --> 01:27:27.079 the trucks wait, we're trying to get up the stairs, and the four 1150 01:27:27.079 --> 01:27:30.800 to zero cops battle past me going down the skip just like push me out 1151 01:27:30.840 --> 01:27:33.520 of the way. And I got the knob and you know, you gotta 1152 01:27:33.600 --> 01:27:38.439 fold, and I'm getting ready to get to the fire floor and drop it. 1153 01:27:38.720 --> 01:27:42.199 And as we're going from I guess the third to the fourth the fold, 1154 01:27:42.439 --> 01:27:45.399 the fold won't go anymore, and I'm like looking down and there's Mike, 1155 01:27:45.520 --> 01:27:48.039 my partner, and this is the way we were. This is a 1156 01:27:48.159 --> 01:27:55.800 typical Mike steel and knee story. We're trying to get around the poles won't 1157 01:27:55.840 --> 01:27:59.600 go and I yelled down, Mike, get the hose around. The new 1158 01:27:59.680 --> 01:28:03.000 apole says it suck. He goes no. I said, well, get 1159 01:28:03.079 --> 01:28:05.920 the hose up here. He goes, I don't think so. And look 1160 01:28:06.039 --> 01:28:09.520 I'm getting down. I said, what do you mean you don't think so? 1161 01:28:09.640 --> 01:28:12.439 He said, the cops just told me don't get up there. You're 1162 01:28:12.439 --> 01:28:15.760 gonna get killed. He was holding it. That was Mike, and then 1163 01:28:15.840 --> 01:28:19.000 we went off. But that that just relaxed everybody, you know, to 1164 01:28:19.119 --> 01:28:25.960 hear him don't go up there. The cops told me we would go up 1165 01:28:26.119 --> 01:28:29.000 and and and you know, do our job and do a thing. And 1166 01:28:30.000 --> 01:28:32.960 we just had We just had fun. In fact, it was funny. 1167 01:28:33.000 --> 01:28:36.920 We had a covering, We had a lieutenant that got there his first day. 1168 01:28:38.920 --> 01:28:41.520 And again Mike and I hate to keep saying Mike and I, because 1169 01:28:41.520 --> 01:28:45.760 we had Billy Laws, and we had Tommy Martin, we had Eddie McCallan, 1170 01:28:45.920 --> 01:28:50.039 all fantastic five, Tommy Fresh Hour, Jenny Rooney. I'm missing a 1171 01:28:50.079 --> 01:28:56.319 bunch of guys, but all fantastic. But oh, Daddy, he wasn't 1172 01:28:56.600 --> 01:29:00.880 daddy. Mike and I always generally work together. So we get this, 1173 01:29:02.399 --> 01:29:10.680 We get this uh a job and over in the hall of because we go 1174 01:29:10.840 --> 01:29:13.399 third due a lot to hall and get action there. You know, we 1175 01:29:13.479 --> 01:29:16.640 got our own action and go into sixty nine and where my son wound up 1176 01:29:16.680 --> 01:29:20.800 fifty nine and guy companies like that at eighty engine. So we get a 1177 01:29:20.880 --> 01:29:26.840 job over the halem. It's good fire and uh they needed two lines on 1178 01:29:26.960 --> 01:29:29.920 the top floor, so we'd stretch a line and got to the top floor. 1179 01:29:29.960 --> 01:29:32.319 We come back and Tommy Lapolo is offs a great, great guy, 1180 01:29:32.760 --> 01:29:36.159 funny guy, always laughing. But we don't know this his first first tour 1181 01:29:36.319 --> 01:29:41.079 and we get this job. So we pull out a quarter and he's banging 1182 01:29:41.159 --> 01:29:44.199 you guys are officers, I was, you're banging on the window. Well, 1183 01:29:44.279 --> 01:29:47.560 he banging banging on the window. We get back from the job and 1184 01:29:47.720 --> 01:29:50.159 we go out and we had a yard. So we're going out in the 1185 01:29:50.279 --> 01:29:55.239 yard and having some water to refresh and all that stuff. So Mike goes, 1186 01:29:55.359 --> 01:29:58.319 why don't you go in and ask the new lieutenant if he wants to 1187 01:29:58.359 --> 01:30:00.680 come out with us and have water. So I says, yeah, right, 1188 01:30:01.000 --> 01:30:03.760 So I go in and I said lou would you like to come out? 1189 01:30:03.920 --> 01:30:06.399 So he goes, yeah, yeah, sure, and he's always smiling 1190 01:30:06.399 --> 01:30:12.560 and laught. So he comes out and he's in the yard, and after 1191 01:30:12.680 --> 01:30:15.399 my second and third glass of water, I said to Steel, I said, 1192 01:30:15.399 --> 01:30:17.119 I got to talk to him. And there's a whole bunch of guys. 1193 01:30:17.199 --> 01:30:18.720 We're all out there. You know, we had a good job. 1194 01:30:18.760 --> 01:30:24.239 We're all out there talking about the job. And so he comes out. 1195 01:30:24.279 --> 01:30:25.960 I said, Lou, can I talk to you a minute? You know, 1196 01:30:26.079 --> 01:30:28.760 the guy's listen. He said, yeah, what's up. You're Jimmy 1197 01:30:28.840 --> 01:30:30.680 right. I said yeah. He goes, oh, no, the captain 1198 01:30:30.760 --> 01:30:33.359 told me about you, and I said yeah, I said, well forget 1199 01:30:33.399 --> 01:30:36.079 about what the captain I'm trying to talk to you. Yeah. Well, 1200 01:30:36.279 --> 01:30:40.159 well what do you want? I said, no more bang out the window. 1201 01:30:42.079 --> 01:30:44.680 He goes, what And then he's looking at him and he's got the 1202 01:30:44.760 --> 01:30:47.039 grin like you're laughing. I says, Mike, and I want no bang 1203 01:30:47.119 --> 01:30:50.159 on the window. Nine's out. He goes, what are you talking about? 1204 01:30:50.479 --> 01:30:54.039 We don't want to know nothing until we get to the job. We 1205 01:30:54.279 --> 01:30:59.920 like to be surprised. I said, if you start banging on the wind 1206 01:31:00.399 --> 01:31:03.520 right him and I get very nervous. We don't like that. We don't 1207 01:31:03.560 --> 01:31:08.880 want to know. Don't like that, not until we pull up in front 1208 01:31:08.920 --> 01:31:12.600 of the building. But it was it was a good story and another Mike 1209 01:31:12.680 --> 01:31:15.520 Steele's story. He just called me today with it. I had forgotten about 1210 01:31:15.560 --> 01:31:18.000 it. We get a Brownstone in the basement, now you know the brown 1211 01:31:18.039 --> 01:31:20.960 saws at the basement, and you got the seller. And we get a 1212 01:31:21.039 --> 01:31:27.760 fire in the basement and we go down and we Chief Francis was a battire 1213 01:31:27.880 --> 01:31:31.880 chief. He was also a lieutenant or captain in Probie school and he was 1214 01:31:31.960 --> 01:31:35.640 in charge of Mike's squad. I was Squad one, he was Squad three. 1215 01:31:36.439 --> 01:31:41.720 So Francis gets Mike to helps to get Mike to sixty. You know. 1216 01:31:41.840 --> 01:31:45.319 Also he tells our Captain Mormon when sixty pulled out, listen, I 1217 01:31:45.359 --> 01:31:50.720 got a guy for you, Mike Steele, Marine prim and proper. He's 1218 01:31:50.760 --> 01:31:54.720 a good guy for sixty. And that's how Marmon recruited him. And then 1219 01:31:55.039 --> 01:31:57.720 where he got out of me and stuff like that. So we get this 1220 01:31:57.880 --> 01:32:02.359 job and Francis is the boss and we come out. We knocked this thing 1221 01:32:02.520 --> 01:32:05.760 out like nobody knew. We knocked it out that quick. We got in 1222 01:32:05.840 --> 01:32:10.399 there and freaking blew this thing apart. Come back out. We're high fiving 1223 01:32:10.479 --> 01:32:14.359 each other, but the job. Look at that Couppany's coming in all out. 1224 01:32:14.479 --> 01:32:16.119 Don't worry about it, all out, don't worry about it. Yeah, 1225 01:32:16.439 --> 01:32:20.840 rare high five. Ranch just comes over his steel and he starts screaming 1226 01:32:20.920 --> 01:32:27.279 at him, you freaking asshole. I thought you were gonna be something. 1227 01:32:27.920 --> 01:32:30.600 You're nothing. And Steal's looking at him. I mean, you know, 1228 01:32:30.000 --> 01:32:35.000 still goes let's chief. Let's tell him I taught you prot me school on 1229 01:32:35.119 --> 01:32:40.279 a brownstone. You go on the floor above and protect the interior stairway. 1230 01:32:40.640 --> 01:32:45.279 And he's screaming Mike and he's going give a jackson. Let us see. 1231 01:32:45.319 --> 01:32:46.920 I don't care what he let me. That sleeve, you that long, 1232 01:32:48.439 --> 01:32:53.479 great job. You know, maybe another company might have taken a little bit 1233 01:32:53.600 --> 01:32:56.720 longer, you know, I don't know, but it was just a SPECTOCTRALA 1234 01:32:56.800 --> 01:33:02.079 we'll high five and and he screamed back to quarters that Mario Descento was God 1235 01:33:02.119 --> 01:33:05.479 bless him, the Commas lieutenant, one of the commas we have had. 1236 01:33:05.680 --> 01:33:11.319 He was from one away truck. I believe they got promoted. But all 1237 01:33:11.439 --> 01:33:15.439 my guys, which is kind of cool. All the guys who got promoted, 1238 01:33:16.159 --> 01:33:20.760 the lieutenants, all had fifteen or sixteen years. It wasn't like you 1239 01:33:20.880 --> 01:33:26.760 had seven or eight years. These guys are all salty and they got promoted. 1240 01:33:27.439 --> 01:33:31.039 So in fact, one of the guys, one of the lieutenants, 1241 01:33:31.720 --> 01:33:34.960 came from ninety Andrew. This is a single house at hall, very busy 1242 01:33:35.079 --> 01:33:40.039 back. Then he comes into quarters. He's got a big scar, Dan 1243 01:33:40.239 --> 01:33:44.520 and I love that. Mike, Captain Gray Fim and all busy Harlem companies. 1244 01:33:44.640 --> 01:33:50.760 Pretty boy, no scars. I this guy, boy, he's got 1245 01:33:50.840 --> 01:33:54.920 scars down in his face and all this. And I go, hey, 1246 01:33:55.000 --> 01:33:58.840 Lou gets the spot in sixty. I go where we are from. He 1247 01:33:58.920 --> 01:34:01.880 goes ninety and he goes, I'm going to teach you guys how you stretched 1248 01:34:02.439 --> 01:34:05.439 around the newer pose and stuff like that. I said, look, I 1249 01:34:05.479 --> 01:34:09.720 said, first of all, how long you've been lieutenant, like fifteen twenty 1250 01:34:09.840 --> 01:34:12.640 years? Old timer? Beat up? I mean he's beat up. He 1251 01:34:12.760 --> 01:34:18.560 goes about five and a half hours years, I'm busy company. So he's 1252 01:34:18.600 --> 01:34:21.039 going to tell me how to stretch. I said, look, with all 1253 01:34:21.119 --> 01:34:24.760 due respect, you have way more time than me. You got to see 1254 01:34:24.840 --> 01:34:28.279 Mike and I stretch out of the fire escape, then you'll know how to 1255 01:34:28.359 --> 01:34:31.239 stretch. But he was good so with downstairs or with bs and and stuff. 1256 01:34:31.319 --> 01:34:32.760 I got to know him a little bit. I said, by the 1257 01:34:32.800 --> 01:34:36.520 way, what'd you get that scar? I mean, did the four collapse 1258 01:34:36.600 --> 01:34:40.840 A ceiling collapse? I mean the big gun of the no. I was 1259 01:34:40.960 --> 01:34:43.159 leaving work and he said, I went off the side of the road up 1260 01:34:43.159 --> 01:34:49.319 fourth isl and hit it three by that. He was a real, real 1261 01:34:49.439 --> 01:34:54.399 good guy, great all. So he actually was doing a chief of favor 1262 01:34:54.399 --> 01:34:58.960 and he went to one h three truck and he didn't like it. He 1263 01:34:59.039 --> 01:35:03.000 went in later in career he wound up going to a slow engine. But 1264 01:35:03.119 --> 01:35:05.520 he used to, you know, come back to sixty a lot in the 1265 01:35:05.600 --> 01:35:08.479 parties. And I said, how's it going there? I go there, 1266 01:35:08.520 --> 01:35:12.840 busy, goes busy, he goes. They baran me that they they're on 1267 01:35:13.039 --> 01:35:15.760 the opposite. You know, we were like Jennifer sometimes we take the poll, 1268 01:35:16.359 --> 01:35:20.279 no baloing, anybody get on the window government. But he it was. 1269 01:35:20.560 --> 01:35:26.079 It was a good time with him, and uh uh hey, hey, 1270 01:35:26.119 --> 01:35:27.560 Jimmy, I want to ask you a question. How do you mean 1271 01:35:27.600 --> 01:35:30.760 that you never wanted to go to the truck. Well, here a good 1272 01:35:30.800 --> 01:35:33.840 story, funny story, good store. I get to do about five or 1273 01:35:33.880 --> 01:35:38.840 six years. And that's who we were told back then you go to the 1274 01:35:38.960 --> 01:35:42.119 engine. If you're signed to the engine, do five or six years and 1275 01:35:42.199 --> 01:35:45.319 he goes and then then you can go to the truck or think about it. 1276 01:35:45.439 --> 01:35:48.680 So the captain of the truck asked me to come over and night and 1277 01:35:49.039 --> 01:35:54.119 uh so we're gonna go partners. We're gonna go courss at four seventeen truck 1278 01:35:54.800 --> 01:35:58.159 and uh I go in. I had an Irish camp. We had two 1279 01:35:58.439 --> 01:36:01.880 Irish captains. One was very strict, but he knew what was going on, 1280 01:36:02.079 --> 01:36:05.079 but he but he was strict. Happened mcgrail. He came on the 1281 01:36:05.199 --> 01:36:09.439 leeds. After a year, mcgrail comes. You couldn't understand one word he 1282 01:36:09.520 --> 01:36:13.640 said. I drove him one night. I was a backup show for but 1283 01:36:13.720 --> 01:36:15.600 I was probably the worst backup show for the city because I never wanted to 1284 01:36:15.720 --> 01:36:18.960 drive. So I didn't have my heart because I never knew the streets. 1285 01:36:19.199 --> 01:36:24.960 We had small area I go through, but he would. I remember driving 1286 01:36:25.039 --> 01:36:28.720 him to a job and I'm going down the block and I'm going, Cap, 1287 01:36:28.800 --> 01:36:30.840 do I make a left? Up there? Do I make a right? 1288 01:36:30.079 --> 01:36:36.399 What do I make a left and make it right? Turn? And 1289 01:36:36.640 --> 01:36:40.720 I don't know what he's saying, So I make a left, perfect English. 1290 01:36:40.760 --> 01:36:44.960 He goes, I told you to make a right. So like no 1291 01:36:45.119 --> 01:36:49.760 brawl to brogue left him happened in the trust. So I grabbed Mike. 1292 01:36:50.479 --> 01:36:56.159 I said, Michael, I'm going in and I'm gonna ask mcgrail for fill 1293 01:36:56.199 --> 01:36:58.960 out of paper. I'm going to seventeen. All right, all right, 1294 01:36:59.600 --> 01:37:01.199 you go in first. I said, no, you go in first. 1295 01:37:01.239 --> 01:37:04.560 You're the marine. Go in first. You're the marine, you go in. 1296 01:37:04.680 --> 01:37:08.760 So I wind up going in first. He throws, I can get 1297 01:37:08.800 --> 01:37:13.479 the form C whatever the form was, cirty CD thirty. I get the 1298 01:37:13.600 --> 01:37:15.680 form. You know, it takes a little while fill it out. So 1299 01:37:15.720 --> 01:37:18.960 I'm in the office ten of fifteen minutes filling out this form. And I 1300 01:37:19.039 --> 01:37:21.680 get done filling out, I said, Cap, I just need your signature. 1301 01:37:21.880 --> 01:37:29.079 Walking up to the batanion. You you think I'm signing that, go 1302 01:37:29.439 --> 01:37:33.800 what you'll go nowhere? You're going nowhere? And tell that how any idiot 1303 01:37:33.880 --> 01:37:38.399 that's listening at the door, he's not going in. He wouldn't let us 1304 01:37:38.439 --> 01:37:43.159 go because we were the senior men at the time, our senior I had 1305 01:37:43.279 --> 01:37:46.920 three years or four years guys had left. I was senior guy in the 1306 01:37:47.039 --> 01:37:50.359 fireouts or one of a senior. I don't mean the senior, but wanted 1307 01:37:50.359 --> 01:37:55.239 to see it. Joe Sullivan went to the truck pull tang them and went 1308 01:37:55.279 --> 01:37:59.359 to the truck. Dennis kind of got promoter lieutenant went up to fifty nine 1309 01:37:59.399 --> 01:38:02.479 truck Pampa on left sixty. Amazing, how fast that happens too, right 1310 01:38:02.640 --> 01:38:05.880 when you're in thereouse. It really is crazy. I believe you got like 1311 01:38:05.920 --> 01:38:11.359 a sweet spot. Everybody's good, and then everybody's gone that fast. So 1312 01:38:11.520 --> 01:38:15.800 we wound up. I didn't transfer, and then after he ripped my pa, 1313 01:38:15.359 --> 01:38:18.760 he let me fill everything on into it the gbage, and I said, 1314 01:38:18.960 --> 01:38:21.760 and he you know, he meant. I understand where he was coming 1315 01:38:21.800 --> 01:38:25.479 from, but he could have told me when I walked in. He let 1316 01:38:25.560 --> 01:38:30.279 everything go and then that throw you're out of here. So I and you 1317 01:38:30.399 --> 01:38:31.920 knew Mike was at the door. It was so funny, and tell that 1318 01:38:32.039 --> 01:38:36.359 out at the door, he's not going anywhere either. So we both stayed 1319 01:38:36.359 --> 01:38:39.479 in the Engines. Mike, I don't think really wanted to go. I 1320 01:38:39.600 --> 01:38:44.560 did, so we stayed in sixteen. We did our career there. I 1321 01:38:44.600 --> 01:38:48.520 mean I I Mike became a backup show for. I became a backup show 1322 01:38:48.600 --> 01:38:53.520 for. But like I said, I my heart wasn't in it. Uh. 1323 01:38:54.159 --> 01:38:58.880 We got we got another captain, Captain Gibblin who just passed away. 1324 01:38:59.399 --> 01:39:01.319 He was a little Irish leprechaun. He was our copy that. He was 1325 01:39:01.439 --> 01:39:05.600 just a funny, funny guy. And we had a job once with it. 1326 01:39:05.720 --> 01:39:09.000 We had a lot of stories with Giblin, a lot of you know. 1327 01:39:09.479 --> 01:39:12.520 But anyway, we had a job at a It was a printing press 1328 01:39:13.039 --> 01:39:17.319 with that crazy smoke. And we're in there. The meal was on just 1329 01:39:17.399 --> 01:39:23.520 about ready. We go in there. Chief Kilker is the deputy and he's 1330 01:39:23.560 --> 01:39:28.920 standing there and we go in and I happen to tell Gibblin, by the 1331 01:39:29.000 --> 01:39:30.840 way, Cap, let's put this thing out quick. The meal's on. 1332 01:39:31.680 --> 01:39:35.960 He gets on the air with the radio. He calls the chief said Richie 1333 01:39:36.000 --> 01:39:39.880 Mills was a black guy, good guy. He calls the aid of the 1334 01:39:39.960 --> 01:39:43.760 fourteep a Pang, and he gives him the whole meal. The recipe and 1335 01:39:43.840 --> 01:39:49.840 everything. Richie go this in the middle of the companies are coming in knocking 1336 01:39:49.920 --> 01:39:53.520 down because there was a big building. They're in the side of the building. 1337 01:39:53.600 --> 01:39:58.399 We're in this park and we're making headway. Gibblin doesn't he you know, 1338 01:39:58.520 --> 01:40:01.000 I yat. He yaps like a and with the Eyrish bro you can 1339 01:40:01.079 --> 01:40:04.840 hardly understand him either. And he's going, all right to go back and 1340 01:40:04.920 --> 01:40:10.199 turn the potatoes off and turn the meat over and put that on three fifty. 1341 01:40:10.520 --> 01:40:15.000 Well Kilke hears this and he goes, is that that little leprekun out 1342 01:40:15.039 --> 01:40:18.399 there in the fire And they goes, yeah, it's Captain Gibblet. Go 1343 01:40:18.560 --> 01:40:23.479 in and get him out and get him back to quarters right now. So 1344 01:40:24.039 --> 01:40:26.520 next thing, no, I got the radio. I mean, you give 1345 01:40:26.600 --> 01:40:30.239 him back and then she's caught. He wouldn't, he wouldn't. He just 1346 01:40:30.319 --> 01:40:33.159 wouldn't stop. I mean, he was just a funny, funny guy. 1347 01:40:33.640 --> 01:40:39.199 But Kilker was funny because we had a we had a good fly. Now 1348 01:40:39.239 --> 01:40:43.279 I'm at the latter part of my career. We'd we'd come out with no 1349 01:40:43.439 --> 01:40:47.720 next hoods and I don't reckon you got I tell my son, you got 1350 01:40:47.840 --> 01:40:50.359 to wear the hook. You got to wear the book. But you know, 1351 01:40:50.520 --> 01:40:54.239 back then I just was set my ways. I'm not wearing the hook. 1352 01:40:54.640 --> 01:40:58.279 I wrote a bunker gear when I I'm not wearing a hood. So 1353 01:40:58.399 --> 01:41:02.079 we had a tremendous fire one hundred and thirty eighth Street, second do and 1354 01:41:02.199 --> 01:41:06.199 we didn't know it. Rescue found it. Actually it went to a third 1355 01:41:06.279 --> 01:41:11.560 alarm, the fourth alarm, and we were second and we had to go 1356 01:41:11.720 --> 01:41:15.119 to the floor above it. What it was was we thought it was on 1357 01:41:15.239 --> 01:41:18.000 the first floor. Eighty three were tremendous firing. They went in, they 1358 01:41:18.039 --> 01:41:23.239 couldn't they couldn't really find the fire, tremendous heat. What the guy had 1359 01:41:23.319 --> 01:41:27.760 done in the owner of the building is he put those inch or three quarter 1360 01:41:27.880 --> 01:41:33.560 inch steel plates around the basement in the basement and he had all jewelry stored 1361 01:41:33.600 --> 01:41:38.399 in his own jewelry shops and he kept all his jewelry in there, and 1362 01:41:38.600 --> 01:41:42.479 he didn't want anybody to get in there. So the basement, other than 1363 01:41:42.560 --> 01:41:45.359 the steel door, had all steel plates around it, so you couldn't see 1364 01:41:45.439 --> 01:41:49.119 nothing, and the heat was burning through. We lost I think two or 1365 01:41:49.159 --> 01:41:55.960 three people burnt through the first floor, burnt through the second floor, and 1366 01:41:56.079 --> 01:41:59.520 I think it burned through the third and we had the second floor, and 1367 01:41:59.680 --> 01:42:02.479 we had Chief Bernie Mullins who had come there. He was from one oh 1368 01:42:02.560 --> 01:42:09.159 three truck, great reputation, tremendous fireman, even a better chief. He 1369 01:42:09.319 --> 01:42:11.039 was one of the boys, says, you know what I mean. He 1370 01:42:11.159 --> 01:42:15.720 was fantastic. So he was the chief on that second floor that we had. 1371 01:42:15.279 --> 01:42:20.039 Eighty three is pushing. They can't hit nothing. Nobody's hitting anything right 1372 01:42:21.159 --> 01:42:26.560 there. And I get up to the second floor and I pushed into the 1373 01:42:26.680 --> 01:42:30.920 apartment and I'm in about two feet about ten feet, and I can't go 1374 01:42:31.039 --> 01:42:34.439 in each further. I had no hood on. My ears were on fire, 1375 01:42:35.239 --> 01:42:39.640 and I'm saying I got it, and Bernie is down the hallway no 1376 01:42:39.840 --> 01:42:43.439 mask. I had no mask, and he's yelling to me, Hold dad, 1377 01:42:43.600 --> 01:42:45.439 you gotta get in there. He's yelling, you gotta get in. 1378 01:42:46.039 --> 01:42:50.479 Nobody knew if I had gone and I'm not again, you have that hoods. 1379 01:42:50.520 --> 01:42:55.960 But if I had gone another foot or two because my ears were covered, 1380 01:42:56.560 --> 01:42:59.720 you went right down to the basement. And you're lucky we didn't lose 1381 01:42:59.760 --> 01:43:02.600 any buddy. We lost people. In fact, one of the bedrooms just 1382 01:43:02.640 --> 01:43:08.680 went right down into the basement. It was Rescue three had come down and 1383 01:43:08.800 --> 01:43:14.199 they spotted a brick and then spotted through it, and we realized the fire 1384 01:43:14.399 --> 01:43:17.439 was full, fully involved on in the basement. And then we went outside 1385 01:43:17.479 --> 01:43:20.520 and and you know did the next day punched hole through the brick wall. 1386 01:43:20.720 --> 01:43:26.000 Then I had to go through the steel planes. But it was a tremendous 1387 01:43:26.079 --> 01:43:31.840 fire. And if the hood, yeah, I got you a funny thing 1388 01:43:31.920 --> 01:43:35.319 with the hood. My career is almost ending, and I'm going to go 1389 01:43:35.399 --> 01:43:39.640 back to the beach for a second, if you allow me. I worked 1390 01:43:39.680 --> 01:43:43.840 seven years at the beach. My friend who I got a job at the 1391 01:43:43.880 --> 01:43:46.279 beach becomes a Suffolk cop. He works about four years at the beach with 1392 01:43:46.479 --> 01:43:49.840 me. We were the handulance drivers. And he calls it. He goes, 1393 01:43:49.920 --> 01:43:53.760 did you ever get any time for working at the beach? I says, 1394 01:43:54.520 --> 01:43:56.359 now, why? He said, well, I put in for it 1395 01:43:57.039 --> 01:43:59.920 for the pinching bule. I filled out all these there's a lot of pain 1396 01:44:00.000 --> 01:44:02.439 because you may get some time. So I fill the papers out. Months 1397 01:44:02.520 --> 01:44:06.880 go by and anyway, roll me. My captain calls me in and he 1398 01:44:06.960 --> 01:44:12.560 goes. Sam Smallowitz is on the telephone. The Potomer call and I'm going 1399 01:44:14.000 --> 01:44:17.359 come on, Cap. The captain and I were very close. So he 1400 01:44:17.439 --> 01:44:19.560 goes, I said, Cap, come on, and he goes, no, 1401 01:44:19.760 --> 01:44:24.479 smiler Witz is on the phone. So I pick up the phone. 1402 01:44:24.520 --> 01:44:27.079 He goes Johnston. I said, yeah. He goes, well, kid, 1403 01:44:27.159 --> 01:44:29.960 you hit a home run. I said, what are you talking about. 1404 01:44:30.159 --> 01:44:32.920 At the time, I had just about twenty two years. He goes, 1405 01:44:33.680 --> 01:44:39.840 you're getting seven years back time. I worked seven years at the beach, 1406 01:44:39.960 --> 01:44:45.119 but just summers, you know, July August through July onwards. I 1407 01:44:45.239 --> 01:44:49.920 got seven years. He owed me like twenty five thousand dollars. I went 1408 01:44:50.000 --> 01:44:55.199 from Tier one to the two back to Tier one. With the death game, 1409 01:44:55.399 --> 01:44:58.640 it was like my captain is sitting there. Think. I used to 1410 01:44:58.680 --> 01:45:00.960 tell my captain I don't have to study. I'm going to get a field 1411 01:45:01.000 --> 01:45:08.000 promotion. Don't look that, I said, want. So he hangs up. 1412 01:45:08.279 --> 01:45:11.039 I hang up the phone. I says, Cat. I used to 1413 01:45:11.079 --> 01:45:14.720 go in general. He would call me to colonel and I said, general 1414 01:45:15.760 --> 01:45:20.600 field promotion. There it is. And with everything changing, the job changing, 1415 01:45:20.720 --> 01:45:24.159 the messages got things like that. I said, you know what, 1416 01:45:24.239 --> 01:45:27.920 I got thirty years, which back there was a lieutenants pay and I says, 1417 01:45:28.079 --> 01:45:30.600 you know, it was a long time ago. Probably should have stayed, 1418 01:45:30.640 --> 01:45:34.479 but I went. But Catt and Roby was one of the best cap 1419 01:45:34.720 --> 01:45:39.439 We had a walk at off. He was one of the best officers. 1420 01:45:39.720 --> 01:45:43.199 He got mad at me twice in my whole career, and it wasn't really 1421 01:45:43.319 --> 01:45:45.680 mad, but he got mad. And it was funny because I told you 1422 01:45:45.760 --> 01:45:48.520 I hated to be a backup show for I don't want to back it. 1423 01:45:49.359 --> 01:45:54.000 If I'm driving and you got a job, nobody's getting water. Nobody's getting 1424 01:45:54.039 --> 01:45:57.199 water. It's up on the line. That's a I used to joke about 1425 01:45:57.279 --> 01:46:00.960 that. So Patty Mack is retired, he was like, my hero, 1426 01:46:01.760 --> 01:46:04.800 been through the war years, great shelf and you couldn't hear it. And 1427 01:46:04.920 --> 01:46:08.520 he didn't know what the punk the pressure is at. I'm a volley. 1428 01:46:08.560 --> 01:46:12.159 I'm saying twenty pounds frinchy log, one hundred fifty Yeah, yeah, yeah, 1429 01:46:12.199 --> 01:46:14.359 you got it off? What do you pump out of? How do 1430 01:46:14.399 --> 01:46:19.000 you kick me? What do you pop out? I think I just I 1431 01:46:19.119 --> 01:46:23.359 just rub it up a little bit what he does. So and then he 1432 01:46:23.520 --> 01:46:26.760 told me, which I never should have listened to. We had a bunch 1433 01:46:26.800 --> 01:46:30.479 of projects around this also, and he says, if the project is less 1434 01:46:30.640 --> 01:46:36.399 than half the building, the fire is less than half, don't hook up 1435 01:46:36.680 --> 01:46:41.600 the tape pressure coming downs, say, and we have twenty story projects, 1436 01:46:41.880 --> 01:46:44.760 so ninth floor eight four seven, you don't have to hook up the head 1437 01:46:44.800 --> 01:46:48.079 pressure. So we get a job on the backup Shoulfer right down the block 1438 01:46:48.159 --> 01:46:53.800 or one of our twenty story projects. It was on the eighth and ninth 1439 01:46:53.840 --> 01:46:56.840 floor. I'm counting the floors. This is great. I'm not hooking up 1440 01:46:56.880 --> 01:47:00.319 nothing. So I hooked nothing up. Nothing goes to the stand pipe and 1441 01:47:00.560 --> 01:47:03.720 Captain Roby's the ports. He comes back, Hey, a good little job, 1442 01:47:03.920 --> 01:47:09.000 puts the mask away, and he goes, hey, Colonel, I 1443 01:47:09.079 --> 01:47:14.239 can get the host packs real quick. I go, what are you talking? 1444 01:47:14.760 --> 01:47:16.319 I'm gonna tell you something, And this is the last time I'm gonna 1445 01:47:16.359 --> 01:47:20.880 tell you. You're not Patty Mac. You'll look up for everything every time. 1446 01:47:21.039 --> 01:47:24.920 Right, you got a little man that another time, he's funny. 1447 01:47:24.960 --> 01:47:28.399 We had an air mess down like it. We had the EMS down the 1448 01:47:28.479 --> 01:47:31.000 block, and by this time, for a number of years, I do 1449 01:47:31.119 --> 01:47:35.600 nothing, you know, yeah mess, I'm out of it. So we 1450 01:47:35.720 --> 01:47:43.319 get this MS run and I'm the chauffeur, and don't know I was one 1451 01:47:43.439 --> 01:47:45.760 on the back, but I was senior man. Joby goes in, the 1452 01:47:45.920 --> 01:47:50.720 general goes in. I'm the last guy to go in the apartment. Someday. 1453 01:47:50.840 --> 01:47:55.399 I sit down and I'm gonna read the back of the paper, see 1454 01:47:55.439 --> 01:47:58.600 what the sport's going on. And I'm reading the paper, I hear, 1455 01:47:59.199 --> 01:48:01.560 Oh my god, I'm like, holy shoot, what the freaker is this? 1456 01:48:02.359 --> 01:48:04.960 Next thing? You know? He a mess comes in and here comes 1457 01:48:05.239 --> 01:48:09.800 Captain Roby with the boys. I go, what's going on? He goes, 1458 01:48:10.199 --> 01:48:12.800 what's going on? Where were you? I said, I was reading 1459 01:48:12.840 --> 01:48:15.119 the paper. He goes, well, we had a leper in the back 1460 01:48:15.199 --> 01:48:18.239 there. We had a leper, which we never do. Skin all peeled 1461 01:48:18.279 --> 01:48:23.920 off. He had lepos. Oh my god, everything peeled off. So 1462 01:48:24.800 --> 01:48:28.680 I go really, So we get back the corners before the engine backs in. 1463 01:48:29.640 --> 01:48:32.399 I dive off the rig and I'm back by the slop sin where we 1464 01:48:32.479 --> 01:48:40.760 had the antisept. I use the holy antiseptic and Pappain Roby comes back and 1465 01:48:40.840 --> 01:48:43.720 he goes, what are you out of your mind? I said, what's 1466 01:48:43.720 --> 01:48:45.640 the matter? He goes, there's nothing left? We were ready, I 1467 01:48:45.680 --> 01:48:51.760 said, Yeah, but I read the guy's newspaper. Yeah, but I 1468 01:48:51.840 --> 01:48:56.840 read his newspaper. He just looked at me. There was another sofa story, 1469 01:48:56.880 --> 01:49:00.960 and then if there and this was I I should have got. The 1470 01:49:00.119 --> 01:49:05.600 bosses were so good we had they let everything flow. There was nothing that 1471 01:49:06.560 --> 01:49:11.439 I used to tell little qunior guys. And you say, the bosses know 1472 01:49:11.680 --> 01:49:15.479 nothing. It all goes through the senior guys. You don't go into the 1473 01:49:15.560 --> 01:49:17.760 engine office and Dina, you want this done or a three way mutual. 1474 01:49:18.520 --> 01:49:21.920 You're mad that everything goes through the senior men. You leave the boss. 1475 01:49:21.960 --> 01:49:26.680 So our bosses were all left alone. But we get a job. We 1476 01:49:26.800 --> 01:49:31.239 pull out a clomb drive and show I pull out the project across the street 1477 01:49:31.359 --> 01:49:36.279 at the seventh or eight floor. Guys hanging out the window and smoke is 1478 01:49:36.399 --> 01:49:40.319 pouring over his head, and I'm like, oh my well, I used 1479 01:49:40.359 --> 01:49:44.920 to lose my mind when this happens. So I get down the block first 1480 01:49:45.000 --> 01:49:49.520 do Obviously I don't hook up. This was before Roby gave me the letter. 1481 01:49:49.640 --> 01:49:53.520 I would have hooked up. I had. Lieutenant Cook was my boss. 1482 01:49:53.600 --> 01:49:59.880 Great guy I pull in and Jack Ryan was a senior guy in seventeenth 1483 01:50:00.439 --> 01:50:04.079 Gray Vine great senior guy here had he had about thirty years on. So 1484 01:50:04.239 --> 01:50:08.600 we had just had the roof rope with that big hook, you know, 1485 01:50:08.760 --> 01:50:12.239 the belt and all that stuff and the rope so it weighs somebody. So 1486 01:50:12.399 --> 01:50:15.199 I run over. In my head, this is a true story. In 1487 01:50:15.279 --> 01:50:16.920 my head, I'm thinking I'm making a grab. I'm going out the wind 1488 01:50:16.960 --> 01:50:19.399 back. So I grabbed the rope from him. I said, Jack, 1489 01:50:19.439 --> 01:50:23.720 I'll take it up. So I run up. I was in pretty good 1490 01:50:23.720 --> 01:50:28.479 shape. Then I run up to the seventh or eighth floor, the floor 1491 01:50:28.520 --> 01:50:33.479 above, and twenty nine's up there and the two biggest guys in twenty nine 1492 01:50:34.039 --> 01:50:42.560 Dennis Trubert muscle band Bake Gorilla and guns On Ray Phillips like guys, yeah, 1493 01:50:42.600 --> 01:50:45.079 yeah, yeah, yeah right yeah. Hey. Ray was a great 1494 01:50:45.119 --> 01:50:47.920 guy. He went to rescue threege. Yeah. So I pull up and 1495 01:50:48.079 --> 01:50:53.560 I'm up there, and then they're gonna tie me off and lower me, 1496 01:50:54.359 --> 01:50:57.720 low me down, and I'm making the grab. I'm getting the grap So 1497 01:50:58.079 --> 01:51:03.680 now they're figuring out how do you tie them the sitting I go, you 1498 01:51:03.840 --> 01:51:08.439 guys are so big, just love me by I don't need to throw all 1499 01:51:08.520 --> 01:51:13.520 around the belt and all that stuff. So they're taking out the child gates 1500 01:51:14.880 --> 01:51:18.000 and I got a leg just about on the ledge. I'm going out the 1501 01:51:18.039 --> 01:51:23.920 window when we hear from inside Lieutenant Kelly and I forget who the other guy 1502 01:51:23.960 --> 01:51:27.760 from seventeen got the guy out. They made a great grand got a metal, 1503 01:51:27.840 --> 01:51:31.159 got the guy out, like him down and Lieutenant Cook is at the 1504 01:51:31.239 --> 01:51:36.079 engine. He goes, you didn't hook up? So I said, no, 1505 01:51:36.199 --> 01:51:39.239 do you have you have good pressure? Yeah? Yeah, we had 1506 01:51:39.279 --> 01:51:45.359 good pressure. Where were you? I said, well, I don't know 1507 01:51:45.439 --> 01:51:48.000 how to tell it, but he was such a really great guy. I 1508 01:51:48.119 --> 01:51:51.079 said, I really don't know how to tell you this. He goes, 1509 01:51:51.479 --> 01:51:54.239 what do you mean you don't know how to tell me this? I said, 1510 01:51:54.279 --> 01:52:01.520 well, I had one leg out the wind and I had to contract 1511 01:52:01.640 --> 01:52:04.680 you wrapped around me. I don't even know for his slip bottom whatever? 1512 01:52:09.840 --> 01:52:13.159 How do I write this off? If you did grant the guy that my 1513 01:52:13.279 --> 01:52:26.560 agente chauffa the first two edges, you can't make this ship. But another 1514 01:52:26.680 --> 01:52:29.359 thing old do we have? That? Is that the picture that we have 1515 01:52:29.560 --> 01:52:32.960 Jim with those two guys, was that? Was that the picture? I 1516 01:52:33.039 --> 01:52:35.520 want to show the picture quick. I want to show the picture of what 1517 01:52:35.720 --> 01:52:41.279 your son in the picture. That's a that's a great picture and I want 1518 01:52:41.279 --> 01:52:44.680 to talk about Sorry, no, no, there it is, no, 1519 01:52:45.000 --> 01:52:47.439 not that picture when he was younger. Oh the that's the little one. 1520 01:52:47.479 --> 01:52:51.399 Okay, hold, let me get the ten years that was. That guy 1521 01:52:51.600 --> 01:52:55.760 on the left was my captain, Captain Rody, great, great, great, 1522 01:52:55.840 --> 01:52:58.760 great guy. And on the right was a tremendous fire and good friend, 1523 01:52:58.840 --> 01:53:00.840 Jimmy Gilligan. He was one of the bigger guys in our truck, 1524 01:53:01.319 --> 01:53:06.920 and Robie was fairly big. And that's that picture. I think my son 1525 01:53:08.159 --> 01:53:13.840 was twelve and we got a he rode with us, you know the guy. 1526 01:53:13.920 --> 01:53:15.840 Back then you could ride a lot. So I was one of the 1527 01:53:15.880 --> 01:53:20.520 few guys that brought this son in and that's probably why I wanted to be 1528 01:53:20.600 --> 01:53:25.039 a fireman. Little after that, we had we used to get a lot 1529 01:53:25.079 --> 01:53:28.039 of good car fires, you know, not that they're good, but every 1530 01:53:28.159 --> 01:53:30.439 day because we had a commercial area where they ducked the cause and we get 1531 01:53:30.479 --> 01:53:34.760 a good car fly. We we had an inch booster reel on the back 1532 01:53:35.479 --> 01:53:42.399 and I stretched this freaking thing off and Robbie goes, Colonel, what are 1533 01:53:42.399 --> 01:53:45.359 you doing? I said, A car fire? What do you mean, 1534 01:53:45.399 --> 01:53:47.439 what am I doing? You know, to the captain in general. So 1535 01:53:47.520 --> 01:53:53.319 he goes, why is your son here? I said, it's just give 1536 01:53:53.359 --> 01:53:57.479 the line to your son. And at twelve or thirteen he put out a 1537 01:53:57.600 --> 01:54:00.880 fully involved car fly about it. We stood a little bit, you know, 1538 01:54:00.960 --> 01:54:02.359 we didn't do it, you know when you're right up at the car. 1539 01:54:02.479 --> 01:54:05.039 But he put out a full car fire by himself, no help, 1540 01:54:05.520 --> 01:54:10.199 all by himself, and it was great. Well, we loved my son 1541 01:54:10.279 --> 01:54:12.880 and that was it. But I want to give one story if I could 1542 01:54:12.880 --> 01:54:15.079 squeeze it in, because I hear you guys talking a lot about rescue, 1543 01:54:15.159 --> 01:54:18.119 you know how they sometimes they take over. I know in Brooklyn, you 1544 01:54:18.159 --> 01:54:21.279 know a different things. We had Rescue three. It was far away and 1545 01:54:24.560 --> 01:54:28.279 by the time they got to us, we really had no interference with them. 1546 01:54:28.359 --> 01:54:30.479 And I liked a lot of the guys, Jerry Martha, they had 1547 01:54:30.520 --> 01:54:33.039 a guy Joe Rooney, I believe, and a lot of conboys, a 1548 01:54:33.079 --> 01:54:36.560 lot of good guys from rescue and Ray Phillips went up there. But we 1549 01:54:38.239 --> 01:54:42.680 get this good job and we're four above the fire and it's Mike and I 1550 01:54:43.520 --> 01:54:47.600 and we're putting this grou apartment out above the fire, and we're whacking this 1551 01:54:47.760 --> 01:54:53.560 line around. We get it out, and Ralph Coppler was all lieutenant. 1552 01:54:54.039 --> 01:54:58.399 He was like us. He wasn't really our boss, he was like us. 1553 01:54:58.479 --> 01:55:01.159 We socialized. He lived down the island. We do everything together. 1554 01:55:01.279 --> 01:55:05.159 Well, he's in the fire, I'm in the fly. We get it 1555 01:55:05.239 --> 01:55:09.359 all blocking down. We move out to the hallway, Mike and I. 1556 01:55:09.960 --> 01:55:12.479 Coppla is still in there looking, you know, with the light, looking 1557 01:55:12.560 --> 01:55:16.960 if there's any pockets of fire. Rescue is coming up, just against for 1558 01:55:17.039 --> 01:55:23.880 the heck of it, and the ceiling collapses. And Coppler to begin with 1559 01:55:24.119 --> 01:55:30.880 was one of the ugliest lieutenants. I love them. So the ceiling now 1560 01:55:31.000 --> 01:55:34.720 comes down and rescue is coming up, and they hear it and that, 1561 01:55:35.199 --> 01:55:39.439 you know, and the good, great guy. But they're right away. 1562 01:55:39.479 --> 01:55:43.479 We gotta collapse on the second or third floor wherever we will. And we 1563 01:55:43.560 --> 01:55:45.880 got it all. So they yell out as anyone in the s y yelled 1564 01:55:45.880 --> 01:55:49.159 back, yere lieutenant. So they're not on the radio. We got an 1565 01:55:49.239 --> 01:55:54.359 officer trap. So I said to mic, I said, they're gonna they're 1566 01:55:54.399 --> 01:55:58.439 gonna barrel us over. And we knew Coppler and this is how funny we 1567 01:55:58.560 --> 01:56:01.680 all are. And thank god was as Lucas I said. By rescue's not 1568 01:56:01.800 --> 01:56:05.359 going in there. Coppler's getting out on his own. He doesn't need any 1569 01:56:05.439 --> 01:56:09.359 help. He'll be out. So rescue comes to the door and they go, 1570 01:56:09.439 --> 01:56:12.960 we got to get in there. There's a lieutenant Traps. So I 1571 01:56:13.039 --> 01:56:15.520 look at the guy from rescue. I said, we're will aware there's a 1572 01:56:15.560 --> 01:56:17.760 Lieutenant Trapp. He's off bourse. He goes, well, we gotta get 1573 01:56:17.800 --> 01:56:19.800 when he get him out of he goes, no, you know, give 1574 01:56:19.880 --> 01:56:28.840 him a minute, he'll crawl out by And I cannot believe that you guys 1575 01:56:28.920 --> 01:56:30.840 didn't make a move with your boss. And there weep in with him. 1576 01:56:30.840 --> 01:56:33.560 A lot of times. He always want finds his way out, but it 1577 01:56:33.680 --> 01:56:38.800 was just historical. He looks like he looks like he had some traumatic damage 1578 01:56:38.800 --> 01:56:41.560 to his face. Now that's how he always looks. That's how he looks. 1579 01:56:42.720 --> 01:56:45.840 He was banged up there. But it was just a great It was 1580 01:56:45.960 --> 01:56:48.520 just a great career. And oh, let's go through some of the picks 1581 01:56:48.600 --> 01:56:53.399 quick. And then there was a couple of questions, let's go through all 1582 01:56:53.479 --> 01:56:56.079 right, I'm just let's go I don't want to miss it. But we 1583 01:56:56.159 --> 01:57:01.359 have something to Patty's party one first, Uh, way do I have that 1584 01:57:01.439 --> 01:57:04.079 one? Don't have that? Oh? I got one quick story I gotta 1585 01:57:04.119 --> 01:57:10.560 tell Yeah, great story. I'll try to go quick. Chief Chief Guancy, 1586 01:57:11.239 --> 01:57:14.720 he guy Chief Gancy. Yeah, so let's show that picture. Showed 1587 01:57:14.760 --> 01:57:17.960 a Gancy picture. A quick story. But you gotta hear this one. 1588 01:57:18.039 --> 01:57:23.800 That's a tremendous story. That's my wife a chief Guancy right, a volley 1589 01:57:23.880 --> 01:57:30.880 bitter Okay. Prior to that, Uh, I heard it mentioned his nephew 1590 01:57:31.039 --> 01:57:35.119 was on your show. I think recently, Angelo Catillana one twenty four truck 1591 01:57:36.399 --> 01:57:39.920 and his nephew was a guest on one of your shows. And I can't 1592 01:57:39.960 --> 01:57:43.960 think of his name now, but Angelo was a great guy, one twenty 1593 01:57:44.039 --> 01:57:47.119 four, tremendous fireman. He was a big, big guy in the county. 1594 01:57:47.159 --> 01:57:49.760 He was a commission in one of the volleys, and he started the 1595 01:57:49.880 --> 01:57:56.319 fire museum. And that's a county. So he's gonna have a big hoopy 1596 01:57:56.359 --> 01:57:59.920 you for the opening of the fire museum. And we're having it at eyesa 1597 01:58:00.039 --> 01:58:04.319 Ali Park. It's like a catering hole and we're all there and I'm there 1598 01:58:04.840 --> 01:58:09.239 my wife and all the girlfriends, all the I'm a chief, all the 1599 01:58:09.319 --> 01:58:14.560 chiefs provided with their wives, and a lot of the chiefs wise are there. 1600 01:58:14.680 --> 01:58:17.640 So I used to like to flirt with all the women. So I'm 1601 01:58:17.720 --> 01:58:21.199 there and this is we're are all dressed for the tilt and all that, 1602 01:58:21.399 --> 01:58:26.640 and I'm in heaven and I'm getting ready to go over to talk to this 1603 01:58:26.800 --> 01:58:30.800 group. And Angelo grabs me and he goes, Jimmy, you gotta do 1604 01:58:30.920 --> 01:58:34.880 me a favor. There's an invited guest at the party. He's a chief 1605 01:58:34.920 --> 01:58:40.840 and department Pete Garson me and chiefs. You know, I respect, but 1606 01:58:41.239 --> 01:58:43.920 I don't know. So he goes, could you go talk to him? 1607 01:58:43.960 --> 01:58:47.199 He really doesn't know anybody here, and he didn't, so Angela kind of 1608 01:58:47.319 --> 01:58:53.279 drags me over, pulls me over, and he says, Chief, I 1609 01:58:53.319 --> 01:58:56.840 want to introduce you to Jimmy Johnson. He's a chief in One to Rest 1610 01:58:56.880 --> 01:59:00.920 also in sixty Engines. So I see Ancy and I go, hi, 1611 01:59:00.039 --> 01:59:02.279 Chief, how are you doing? I said, And my first words were, 1612 01:59:02.359 --> 01:59:06.199 listen, Chief, I don't want any favors I had about I don't 1613 01:59:06.239 --> 01:59:11.560 know eighteen twenty whatever years and sixty is no favors I don't want to go 1614 01:59:11.680 --> 01:59:14.960 anywhere. I'm just here to talk to you. And I said, I 1615 01:59:15.119 --> 01:59:16.279 really want to look at the women. He looks at me and he goes, 1616 01:59:16.560 --> 01:59:18.439 yeah, yeah, they're really nice. I said, yeah, So 1617 01:59:18.560 --> 01:59:23.359 well, let's chat for a few minutes and I'm out of here. I 1618 01:59:23.560 --> 01:59:27.960 chat and I leave, and he turns out he sees power my wife. 1619 01:59:28.920 --> 01:59:30.760 And I don't know anything going on. I'm talking to other people at the 1620 01:59:30.840 --> 01:59:35.920 party and all listen chief Gancy and how I guess we're talking. I don't 1621 01:59:35.960 --> 01:59:39.560 know nothing, but I know. The next thing I know is she doesn't 1622 01:59:39.560 --> 01:59:43.880 feel good and she's got to go home. So I don't want to leave, 1623 01:59:44.000 --> 01:59:45.359 but I you know, she's really sick. So I said, let's 1624 01:59:45.359 --> 01:59:48.479 get in the car. So we get in the car and were driving. 1625 01:59:50.079 --> 01:59:53.920 As we're drive and she says, I'm sorry. I didn't mean it. 1626 01:59:54.159 --> 01:59:57.239 I'm sorry. I said it's all right. I said, you'll get I 1627 01:59:57.279 --> 02:00:00.319 said, I'm that way every day. Were you're right, said it was 1628 02:00:00.399 --> 02:00:02.439 fun. Well the list and she goes, yeah, but I threw up 1629 02:00:02.520 --> 02:00:09.079 on your battalion chief shoes. So I said, my battalion chief. She 1630 02:00:09.159 --> 02:00:11.920 goes, yeah, yeah, the chief that's there I threw up all over 1631 02:00:12.000 --> 02:00:17.920 the shoes. So it turns out she grows up on dances, because God 1632 02:00:18.000 --> 02:00:24.079 bless it. Another guy that was at the thing was also He was a 1633 02:00:24.199 --> 02:00:29.399 three thirty two engine. He met Dancy just briefly and introduced himself. He 1634 02:00:29.479 --> 02:00:33.079 was getting promoted to lieutenant. The ceremony is two weeks from this incident. 1635 02:00:33.640 --> 02:00:39.159 So he goes up and Dancing congratulates him and he says, tell that guy 1636 02:00:39.319 --> 02:00:44.199 Johnson, he owes me a pair of shoes, and it was hysterical. 1637 02:00:44.720 --> 02:00:47.840 So that was my story with dancing. Then we went to a couple of 1638 02:00:48.039 --> 02:00:55.279 dinners, Folly dinners he got invited to, and we just became very very 1639 02:00:55.319 --> 02:00:59.159 good friends. And he liked my wife a lot. And we went to 1640 02:00:59.279 --> 02:01:04.560 one game at the Colisee in the hockey game, and you don't they had, 1641 02:01:04.960 --> 02:01:09.960 you know, sometimes they didn't quite get well. They had watching the 1642 02:01:10.079 --> 02:01:13.479 game and Carol and I are pulling up to go to the one of the 1643 02:01:13.640 --> 02:01:19.680 upper seating and we look over the ledge and is Chief Guancy and commissionerv Essen, 1644 02:01:20.439 --> 02:01:25.039 and I tell Carol about your boyfriends. He and by this time she 1645 02:01:25.159 --> 02:01:30.079 had a nickname from love Pocket. So she yells over the balcony. Hey, 1646 02:01:30.279 --> 02:01:38.399 love Pocket, I'll be right there, and love Pocket, where did 1647 02:01:38.479 --> 02:01:42.439 this come from? And it was it was just a great chief dancing story. 1648 02:01:42.720 --> 02:01:45.560 It was a fun story. But he had come to my firehouse. 1649 02:01:46.279 --> 02:01:51.800 We had a guy, John Hannon, good kid, h tough kid, 1650 02:01:51.960 --> 02:01:57.880 rugby player. He got killed in an accident on the way leaving the firehouse. 1651 02:01:57.920 --> 02:02:00.960 A tie on the Deagan a tire him off, a tractor trailer crushed 1652 02:02:01.000 --> 02:02:05.000 the car and killed him. So a while later he had donated all his 1653 02:02:05.199 --> 02:02:10.920 organs, and so a while later we had a big ceremony at the firehouse 1654 02:02:11.840 --> 02:02:15.960 and with Giuliani, Chief Guancy was there, you know, and all the 1655 02:02:15.039 --> 02:02:21.159 dignitaries and the people who were the recipients of his organs were there. And 1656 02:02:21.319 --> 02:02:27.000 in court if we pulled everything out, Captain Roby, General the generals, 1657 02:02:27.399 --> 02:02:31.199 he's there, and Julianiti vons and we and I go right up to the 1658 02:02:31.319 --> 02:02:39.039 General as a general permission to go below are basement and he goes, Colonel 1659 02:02:39.159 --> 02:02:43.279 permission granted. So I get to wear it out. Everybody, you know 1660 02:02:43.359 --> 02:02:46.680 in the submarine. We all go there and you know, we're hooting, 1661 02:02:46.760 --> 02:02:51.439 hollering, and with that, my good friend now with Tondy, good fireman. 1662 02:02:53.479 --> 02:02:55.560 His wife was leaving, so he comes down. He says, once 1663 02:02:55.640 --> 02:02:59.359 you say goodbye to Carol, because Carol's wife is and I were pretty close, 1664 02:02:59.600 --> 02:03:02.039 very close. So I go up to the apparatus floor and then the 1665 02:03:02.079 --> 02:03:05.800 oparatus is all out, and as I go up, I say goodbye to 1666 02:03:05.840 --> 02:03:10.920 Al's wife. Him and Eddie were very good, fine and Billy Wells good 1667 02:03:10.960 --> 02:03:15.880 guy. And as I say goodbye, Roby calls me over to general And 1668 02:03:16.039 --> 02:03:18.920 why you call me over to this day? I'd love to ask him. 1669 02:03:19.079 --> 02:03:25.920 He knows I'm coming up from below ground up and there's the Chief and Deputy 1670 02:03:26.039 --> 02:03:30.199 Chief de Bonado still on the apparatus floor talking to Roby. So parody Gancy 1671 02:03:30.319 --> 02:03:34.199 says, you know you got Johnson here? He is he here movie? 1672 02:03:34.239 --> 02:03:38.319 Because of course he's here. So they called me up. I said, 1673 02:03:38.479 --> 02:03:43.239 salute Chief de Beronado. I salute Chief Guancy. We talked for a second, 1674 02:03:43.279 --> 02:03:45.680 and Chief Guancy goes, I want to talk to you for a minute. 1675 02:03:45.680 --> 02:03:50.000 The mirror Chief. So he moves me over and there's our cast iron 1676 02:03:50.079 --> 02:03:55.520 heater, stean heat with the pipe chase going right to the basement, and 1677 02:03:55.600 --> 02:04:00.319 it was like a microphone. It was like it was like being in studio 1678 02:04:00.439 --> 02:04:09.079 fifty four and he puts his arm around me and he goes, do you 1679 02:04:09.079 --> 02:04:13.159 remember when we first met, I sugges I do, chief. He said, 1680 02:04:13.199 --> 02:04:15.880 you said you never want to leave that company. Now I know why 1681 02:04:16.159 --> 02:04:18.960 I wish I could join it, And that was I think that might have 1682 02:04:19.000 --> 02:04:25.239 been the last time I saw. Yeah, But by your questions, I've 1683 02:04:25.279 --> 02:04:28.680 talked enough, I guess there was. There was a couple of there's the 1684 02:04:28.720 --> 02:04:31.439 Trumper chump chomp chomp Trump. I was trying to find the same Patti as 1685 02:04:31.479 --> 02:04:34.680 they want. I don't have one as Mark Saint Patters. So there was 1686 02:04:34.720 --> 02:04:38.680 some questions that people paid for. Yeah, I uh, I'll go back 1687 02:04:38.720 --> 02:04:42.159 to those now and then we'll do the old school tip. The we already 1688 02:04:42.159 --> 02:04:45.079 answered this one is if you work with John, how do you say that 1689 02:04:45.279 --> 02:04:50.319 r W Yes, good guy, very good guy. I had the stupid 1690 02:04:51.640 --> 02:04:55.720 and the only other comment that was that was Trucky. He was asking Trucky 1691 02:04:55.760 --> 02:04:58.880 one one seven, I don't know if you want to talk about this, 1692 02:04:59.079 --> 02:05:00.199 but he's can read that, Okay, you want me to read it to 1693 02:05:00.239 --> 02:05:08.640 you? That allegedly, so moving on, No, there was another one 1694 02:05:08.680 --> 02:05:11.840 if he asked if he worked with there was wasn't that somebody else? They 1695 02:05:11.880 --> 02:05:15.520 wanted to bill this one. Somebody wanted to say hello, Carl Housler. 1696 02:05:15.720 --> 02:05:20.159 Heuser says hello, he's watching with Audie Workle Workle. Yeah. That one. 1697 02:05:20.520 --> 02:05:24.600 Yeah. And then they were Billy Larson stories, Billy Larson stories, 1698 02:05:24.680 --> 02:05:27.840 Billy Lowson stories. Who is one of the best fire Me and him and 1699 02:05:27.880 --> 02:05:31.159 I were like brothers. He was in d C. Went back to with 1700 02:05:31.319 --> 02:05:33.920 very slow. That's the same guy you were talking about. And I got 1701 02:05:34.039 --> 02:05:38.439 him to sixty and then he went to seventeen. One of the best firefighters. 1702 02:05:38.520 --> 02:05:46.079 But I can't tell Billy stories. They were enough. Said I'll give 1703 02:05:46.079 --> 02:05:49.880 you just a fun not a story. But Billy used to carry a pencil 1704 02:05:51.000 --> 02:05:56.720 in his in his potautiful pocket. And one of the new guys comes in. 1705 02:05:56.880 --> 02:05:59.039 He goes, yeah, I met, I met. Billy had a 1706 02:05:59.239 --> 02:06:03.840 little guy tremendous, tremendous. He didn't wear a mask. I had it 1707 02:06:03.960 --> 02:06:09.079 on, but seldom put it on. You should should wear a mask, 1708 02:06:09.079 --> 02:06:11.359 so I want to say that, But Billy didn't wear him. He wore 1709 02:06:11.399 --> 02:06:15.880 a bandanna that was his Scott pack. He didn't weigh anything. He wrapped 1710 02:06:15.920 --> 02:06:20.119 it around. Little guy he carried this pencil and I won't tell it, 1711 02:06:20.319 --> 02:06:24.319 but I'll leave it for the imagination. And one of the ProBiS goes to 1712 02:06:24.600 --> 02:06:29.000 Pete Ziska's great Fireman, the metal Guy. Pete was straight out good guy, 1713 02:06:29.119 --> 02:06:33.119 good show for tremendous firemen. And he goes, hey, mister Dolziskus, 1714 02:06:33.199 --> 02:06:36.239 what what is the little guy Billy? Where had that pencil? Is 1715 02:06:36.279 --> 02:06:41.159 he like a construction worker and he goes, no, it's the star as 1716 02:06:41.239 --> 02:06:50.279 coffee that there were a hundred billis that was a Billy story. But this 1717 02:06:50.479 --> 02:06:55.159 look, Billy was a great, great guy, great fireman. Uh. 1718 02:06:57.119 --> 02:07:00.359 One day he drove the rig back we were in andel was eating the truck 1719 02:07:00.399 --> 02:07:04.039 went out for some stupid day. We come back, the quarters is covered. 1720 02:07:04.079 --> 02:07:08.680 It was like it smelled like five hundred pots burning on the stall. 1721 02:07:09.680 --> 02:07:14.359 Now throws closed up. Everything closed up. Billy decided he's going to take 1722 02:07:14.399 --> 02:07:20.520 the run in without releasing the Maxie break and wondered why the Oh he got 1723 02:07:20.600 --> 02:07:28.119 back all you saw you also, and uh, I think his pencil was 1724 02:07:30.560 --> 02:07:33.640 Billy. Yeah, Billy lost A great guy got him there. He took 1725 02:07:33.720 --> 02:07:39.199 d C and we we were volleys together. Father, his father was captain 1726 02:07:39.239 --> 02:07:42.600 of me and the violence. Yeah, great guy. He always with the 1727 02:07:42.680 --> 02:07:47.319 musk long mustache. And we got the We got the you guys will remember. 1728 02:07:47.520 --> 02:07:51.880 We started with the rabbit tool and then we went to the hydro ram 1729 02:07:54.000 --> 02:07:57.479 and Billy was a little guy but very strong. Like you know, you 1730 02:07:57.600 --> 02:08:00.079 had the mask on, you had the hook on, you had this on 1731 02:08:00.199 --> 02:08:01.239 it. We go to a good flyer. Billy had to go to the 1732 02:08:01.319 --> 02:08:07.039 top floor and fortunately he said he looked, but I don't think he looked. 1733 02:08:07.359 --> 02:08:11.439 He threw the rabbit tool out the window and he says, what did 1734 02:08:11.000 --> 02:08:15.880 what did we seventeen drop? We got to carry this thing fifty five trucks 1735 02:08:15.920 --> 02:08:18.640 from the rabbit one hand carry the rabbit tool. So he tossed the rabbit 1736 02:08:20.039 --> 02:08:22.640 the hydro ram. Yeah. Yeah, the rabbit tool was heavy. Man, 1737 02:08:22.920 --> 02:08:24.680 that was heavy. But Billy, a little billy. We lug all 1738 02:08:24.720 --> 02:08:28.520 this stuff up and he was tremendous elevator guy. We called the Motus elevator. 1739 02:08:28.520 --> 02:08:33.520 He could open a stuck elevator in two seconds. That's a Billy story. 1740 02:08:33.640 --> 02:08:35.640 Yes, well, don't forget. If you want to really quick, 1741 02:08:35.720 --> 02:08:39.359 you want to talk about your son well, yes, for another show. 1742 02:08:41.000 --> 02:08:46.000 I'll tell you what he did good on the test got called and I had 1743 02:08:46.479 --> 02:08:50.840 a good friend and a gray fie and Mike Waters. I got him to 1744 02:08:52.199 --> 02:08:54.520 sixty engine. He was bouncing around at Brooklyn. He was from Hunts Point 1745 02:08:56.239 --> 02:09:00.560 and I got I begged and begged and begged, and finally the haptain said, 1746 02:09:00.560 --> 02:09:03.680 ah, and I'll bring Waters here, and he bought Mike there. 1747 02:09:03.920 --> 02:09:07.560 And Mike knew everybody on the job. Union guy. He could tell stories 1748 02:09:07.560 --> 02:09:09.960 a mile a minute. I don't know if he'd come on to Showman. 1749 02:09:11.640 --> 02:09:18.079 He's tremendous story guy. And we get him and he knew all the union 1750 02:09:18.159 --> 02:09:22.039 guys and he was part of the you I forget what he was, a 1751 02:09:22.119 --> 02:09:24.680 rep for the the title whatever he was. And I said, I want 1752 02:09:24.760 --> 02:09:28.880 my sons getting on. I always loved I loved who I were, but 1753 02:09:28.000 --> 02:09:33.600 I loved hallm too. And he was still more occupied and busier than sixty 1754 02:09:33.039 --> 02:09:37.239 when my son got on in two thousand and seven. And I said, 1755 02:09:37.640 --> 02:09:41.119 all I ask is scouted out. I want senior offices. I don't want 1756 02:09:41.239 --> 02:09:45.520 five year guys. I don't want six year guys. I want him to 1757 02:09:45.600 --> 02:09:48.119 go. You know, I started to worry. I know what I went 1758 02:09:48.199 --> 02:09:52.720 through and close calls. So he said, fifty nine engines for you ej 1759 02:09:52.920 --> 02:09:58.079 ten. He was up there, Jimmy McClusky, tremendous guy. He was 1760 02:09:58.159 --> 02:10:03.279 a lieutenant up there. Yeah, yeah at Cleary, Nick Nick, Nick 1761 02:10:03.680 --> 02:10:11.039 Nicole, good recovery man. All those guys were there. So I had 1762 02:10:11.159 --> 02:10:13.840 pulled through Mike Waters and he got him there. And then when he got 1763 02:10:13.920 --> 02:10:18.680 promoted, Joe Brosie I had broken into he ran. He was running flips 1764 02:10:18.720 --> 02:10:24.840 at the time. And Jimmy Hodgens, not Chief Hodgens. It was a 1765 02:10:24.920 --> 02:10:30.000 Jimmy Hodgens that was my captain for a while seventeen. Good fire and solid 1766 02:10:30.079 --> 02:10:33.560 guy. He put up with that nonsense. We called him the dentist because 1767 02:10:33.560 --> 02:10:39.439 he drilled day and night. He was. He was on the stage when 1768 02:10:39.479 --> 02:10:43.760 my son got promoted and came to me. He goes, Jimmy, wherever 1769 02:10:43.840 --> 02:10:48.159 you want him to go. But Joe Brosie pulled some strings and stuff like 1770 02:10:48.239 --> 02:10:52.640 that, so he covered. You know, he's a lieutenant two eighty nine. 1771 02:10:54.079 --> 02:10:56.319 He's maybe a year a little more away in the captain captain. Good 1772 02:10:56.359 --> 02:11:00.760 for him, yeah, good, fine and good for him. And he 1773 02:11:00.800 --> 02:11:03.319 got a good fatal. He made a great grab. He worked in a 1774 02:11:03.399 --> 02:11:07.680 truck, you know how luck goes. He didn't work off anyone three eight 1775 02:11:07.720 --> 02:11:11.720 and he works at one three eight. They get a private dwelling, but 1776 02:11:11.800 --> 02:11:13.760 it's one of those private dwellings in Corona where you had. They had twenty 1777 02:11:13.840 --> 02:11:18.119 two people in. Yeah, a lot of people always and most of them 1778 02:11:18.159 --> 02:11:24.199 were all trapped. And he went above and uh, does he ever do 1779 02:11:24.279 --> 02:11:30.840 this? Do you ever hear him do this? Really? The old block? 1780 02:11:31.239 --> 02:11:33.279 You know who was there? I don't know if you know the name, 1781 02:11:33.319 --> 02:11:35.600 but he was a happy He was Tom Neary, who just asked. 1782 02:11:35.800 --> 02:11:41.880 Yeah, Tom Neary was a legend on the job and he was thirty eight 1783 02:11:41.920 --> 02:11:46.239 for a little bit. But yeah, he loves it there. And when 1784 02:11:46.239 --> 02:11:48.880 you're selling to the floor above. He wasn't the first two show for was 1785 02:11:48.960 --> 02:11:56.640 he by any chance? Cool? So I got to teach you guys what 1786 02:11:56.800 --> 02:12:03.359 I know. You can start now because it's time for your old school tip 1787 02:12:03.399 --> 02:12:07.960 of the day pages. Yeah, I told you were gonna say. He 1788 02:12:07.960 --> 02:12:11.079 already sad at the beginning. He wants to come back for a part three, 1789 02:12:11.319 --> 02:12:13.800 so he's already going themself all lines up, dude, I love it. 1790 02:12:13.319 --> 02:12:16.880 We can do a part two. Well, I just got to say 1791 02:12:16.000 --> 02:12:20.359 one quick thing, not a story. But I had moved to Myrtle Beach 1792 02:12:20.399 --> 02:12:22.479 and a bunch of my engine company was standing. We all moved down within 1793 02:12:22.640 --> 02:12:26.840 blocks of each other. And I had Chris Murphy, who was my good 1794 02:12:26.880 --> 02:12:30.800 friend. He lived right next door to me. He was in in sixty 1795 02:12:30.880 --> 02:12:33.560 with me, Mike Waters, my boss, Sadie McCallan, Alt Tundee, 1796 02:12:33.640 --> 02:12:37.960 Paul Big Paul Quirk is a real good storyteller from forty twenty seven Truck, 1797 02:12:39.000 --> 02:12:41.720 I mean a big guy and a funny, funny guy with stories. Jimmy 1798 02:12:41.800 --> 02:12:45.760 Ryan was from two twenty seven. I met a lot of the guys, 1799 02:12:45.800 --> 02:12:48.399 a lot of guys I worked with the sixty. We all moved together, 1800 02:12:48.880 --> 02:12:52.479 and then I met these guys from twenty seven, Ken Big, Ken a 1801 02:12:52.920 --> 02:12:56.119 Begbie, and Pete Clifford from forty four. All great guys. They're still 1802 02:12:56.199 --> 02:13:01.319 down. Good that you guys are all together like that left I guess I 1803 02:13:01.399 --> 02:13:03.359 was. But yeah, and you know what, this is the first time 1804 02:13:03.439 --> 02:13:09.319 I told stories because these guys all heard my stories. It was always in 1805 02:13:09.399 --> 02:13:13.640 a bar. After about fourteen fifteen beers, I would get these stories and 1806 02:13:13.720 --> 02:13:18.159 they loved them. I think he had yeah, Timmy, Timmy, I 1807 02:13:18.199 --> 02:13:22.079 think it's I met him down there and a lot of guys, Bobby Joy 1808 02:13:22.119 --> 02:13:28.960 and a lot of guys, great firemen, great stories. But they used 1809 02:13:28.000 --> 02:13:31.800 to tolerate my stories. So it's kind of funny. And I hope I 1810 02:13:31.880 --> 02:13:33.680 think most of them are watching. You'll probably called me after this and say, 1811 02:13:33.840 --> 02:13:41.840 shut your mouth. Good stuff there, good stuff. But the tip 1812 02:13:41.920 --> 02:13:46.520 of the day, yeah, right now, there we go, Hime for 1813 02:13:48.720 --> 02:13:58.720 tip of the day. Day. All right, all right, can't take 1814 02:13:58.760 --> 02:14:01.359 you wait, Okay, first, I'm going to just give a personal tip 1815 02:14:01.439 --> 02:14:07.640 for the day, and I was talking to coops about it before. Guys 1816 02:14:07.680 --> 02:14:09.920 that are on the job, even if you're on the job, and especially 1817 02:14:11.000 --> 02:14:16.319 if you're retire, be an advocate for your own health because there's a lot 1818 02:14:16.399 --> 02:14:20.199 of times nobody else is looking down for you. I had some serious health 1819 02:14:20.279 --> 02:14:24.439 problems and I went to instead of going to something else, I wound up 1820 02:14:24.479 --> 02:14:28.760 going to do hospital. Go to the best, think of yourself and your 1821 02:14:28.840 --> 02:14:33.039 family, and be your own advocate. Go out of the park if you 1822 02:14:33.159 --> 02:14:37.359 have to look for a good doctor or a good hospital. So that's my 1823 02:14:37.560 --> 02:14:41.159 personal tip of the day. The other tip fire matter tip of the day 1824 02:14:41.720 --> 02:14:46.319 is obviously what you guys said, stay low, let it blow. But 1825 02:14:46.520 --> 02:14:50.600 if you get into a company, pick pick the brains of the senior men. 1826 02:14:52.279 --> 02:14:58.439 Not only do you want to hear their good stories and you know things 1827 02:14:58.520 --> 02:15:01.039 of that line, but you want to hear the tradition of the fire house. 1828 02:15:01.159 --> 02:15:05.880 You want to know what the firehouse you're in is all about. And 1829 02:15:05.960 --> 02:15:09.479 there's nothing better than to Just when I got on, I picked the brains 1830 02:15:09.520 --> 02:15:13.600 of Patty mc andrews, Tommy Mahoney, all these senior guys you know by 1831 02:15:13.720 --> 02:15:22.600 Dolly, John h Jimmy Brown, all Bill Lotta, all these guys. 1832 02:15:22.800 --> 02:15:28.039 And now you got young guys in seventeen like Steve Pitt's and Tommy Frank, 1833 02:15:28.199 --> 02:15:31.520 guys like that. That's still run, Tommy Martin, they still run all 1834 02:15:31.640 --> 02:15:37.159 the ceremonies we've had and kept the tradition alive. Lieutendant to Salve O guys 1835 02:15:37.239 --> 02:15:41.840 like that. So keep your tradition alive. And the only way you can 1836 02:15:41.960 --> 02:15:46.079 keep it alive is by picking the brains and the senior guys not only fire 1837 02:15:46.159 --> 02:15:50.960 stories, but find out what what the what your particular house is all about. 1838 02:15:50.319 --> 02:15:54.399 And that's that's my two tips of the day. Three tips of the 1839 02:15:54.479 --> 02:16:00.439 day. We wait. The old school tip of the day is brought to 1840 02:16:00.479 --> 02:16:05.479 you by what God, Oh, he's gonna be brought to you by The 1841 02:16:05.680 --> 02:16:11.640 FD Collectors Club is a monthly subscription service that delivers fire department patches and challenge 1842 02:16:11.720 --> 02:16:13.880 coins. No more stopping by a firehouse just to find out they're out on 1843 02:16:13.960 --> 02:16:24.720 a call. Start and grow your collection today. Great dude, he's a 1844 02:16:24.720 --> 02:16:31.159 good dude. He's in squad one. That guy right rough Tom, he's 1845 02:16:31.199 --> 02:16:35.040 the burn box guy. Yes, he's he's in a squad Yeah, great 1846 02:16:35.079 --> 02:16:37.479 guy, So go over there and check it out. Challenge coins pass. 1847 02:16:37.520 --> 02:16:39.520 He's got a lot of stuff going on, that guy. Huh. He's 1848 02:16:39.520 --> 02:16:43.600 a busy dude. Man. But we also also we have to do the 1849 02:16:43.719 --> 02:16:46.799 health and safety tip of the day. We say, oh, goodbyes, 1850 02:16:46.840 --> 02:16:52.280 stand by, Jim hold up. The First Responders Center for Excellence is a 1851 02:16:52.399 --> 02:16:56.399 not for profit organization dedicated to protecting the lives and livelihoods of first responders. 1852 02:16:56.680 --> 02:17:01.959 Their education and research initiatives aim to bring greater awareness and understanding the challenges to 1853 02:17:03.000 --> 02:17:07.440 the health, safety, and well being of firefighters EMS personnel and other first 1854 02:17:07.440 --> 02:17:13.959 responders too. They are an affiliate of the National Fallen Firefighter Foundations. I'm 1855 02:17:13.000 --> 02:17:16.559 going to give you three tonight. Get ready. So diesel is a known 1856 02:17:16.639 --> 02:17:22.559 cast ynogen. Use exhaust capture systems in the firehouses to reduce exposure to diesel 1857 02:17:22.719 --> 02:17:28.399 exhaust teams. Thank god. Healthy lifestyle choices are important for firefighters health and 1858 02:17:28.520 --> 02:17:33.319 fitness. Maintain a healthy diet, rich and fruits, vegetables and whole grains. 1859 02:17:33.760 --> 02:17:37.399 And also, you know this is my pet peeve exercise regularly to promote 1860 02:17:37.520 --> 02:17:43.280 overall health and fitness. Like the Chief said, Like the Chief Hello, 1861 02:17:43.959 --> 02:17:46.399 Like Jimmy said. You know, you have to have a stake in your 1862 02:17:46.440 --> 02:17:48.239 own health, man, you have to be an advocate for your own health. 1863 02:17:50.680 --> 02:17:56.959 Yep, we got this on again. Great stories man. I appreciate 1864 02:17:56.959 --> 02:17:58.840 it. You could see, uh you know, I like you know you 1865 02:18:00.200 --> 02:18:01.280 get You're wearing it right on the sleeve. Brother, you know what I 1866 02:18:01.360 --> 02:18:05.440 mean. It's uh good stuff. Loved the job. Loved it. You 1867 02:18:05.520 --> 02:18:11.280 could tell you never told us how you have the name hol Daddy. Yeah, 1868 02:18:11.360 --> 02:18:13.239 I'm still I know what it is. It's it's a surfer thing. 1869 02:18:13.319 --> 02:18:16.920 It was one thousand bucks. You didn't come up with that. Yeah, 1870 02:18:18.159 --> 02:18:24.680 that's a bad full of ship. Yes, maybe you do know what. 1871 02:18:26.000 --> 02:18:28.840 Yeah, I used to do the whole act in the in the late sixties 1872 02:18:30.239 --> 02:18:33.200 with the jams. That's with the bathing suits and the surfboard and all that. 1873 02:18:33.719 --> 02:18:37.399 And Billy lost to the guy, the little guy. He was surf 1874 02:18:37.600 --> 02:18:41.360 and I plant my board in but I didn't know how to surf. So 1875 02:18:41.399 --> 02:18:43.399 I sit there talking at the women and saying I'm a surfer, and Billy 1876 02:18:43.479 --> 02:18:46.680 turned around says, you know what you are. You're a whole daddy. 1877 02:18:48.319 --> 02:18:50.840 When I got him over to sixty and seventeen, that stuck. Yeah, 1878 02:18:52.040 --> 02:18:56.479 the game of pretty women in this man, Broffy. Have you noticed that? 1879 02:18:56.760 --> 02:19:00.680 Yeah, yeah, yeah, I like it to look at too. 1880 02:19:00.760 --> 02:19:05.399 Good. Absolutely, all right, guys, thanks for tuning in. Any 1881 02:19:05.719 --> 02:19:09.680 shout outs, Ruffy, No, we got I've got some good people coming 1882 02:19:09.760 --> 02:19:16.040 up Monday. Monday, we have Chief John Newell coming on. Oh that's 1883 02:19:16.360 --> 02:19:33.000 Jimmy's golf partner day a day. Nice, all right, guys, thanks 1884 02:19:33.040 --> 02:19:35.959 again for watching tuning in. I think we had over one hundred lights tonight 1885 02:19:37.079 --> 02:19:41.120 right us. All last two was keeping me up. Go share with friends, 1886 02:19:41.159 --> 02:19:45.440 bro Share the podcast we need to grow it and then I get your 1887 02:19:45.639 --> 02:19:48.760 orders in for Christmas. I don't want to be sitting at that engraving table. 1888 02:19:50.360 --> 02:19:54.600 Now I'm out and uh, that's it until Monday. Stay long, 1889 02:19:54.719 --> 02:19:58.600 go all right, Jim, thanks again. We'll see it the big one 1890 02:19:58.639 --> 02:20:00.600 everybody. All right, guys, have you good night,