1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:03,960 bTB would fire pizza and grill. So I go to our text line and 2 00:00:04,040 --> 00:00:07,200 you can Texas show anytime at five to five two or six eighty eight sixty 3 00:00:07,200 --> 00:00:11,759 six, and I get hey. Bill went to Btb's tonight for the ten 4 00:00:11,800 --> 00:00:16,600 dollars pizzas again just because I heard it on your pod. Matt wasn't there. 5 00:00:16,800 --> 00:00:19,879 I so wanted to pick of us together. Now I know Matt went 6 00:00:19,920 --> 00:00:23,879 to the Matt Rife or every friendayed going er to get my pizza. Matt's 7 00:00:23,960 --> 00:00:29,559 never there. Guy's got the greatest schedule of all time. Anyhow, pizza 8 00:00:29,719 --> 00:00:35,039 absolutely delicious. We girlfriends get together every other week for dinner. This is 9 00:00:35,079 --> 00:00:39,280 going to be our new spot. Chicken French again. Love the pod Cougar 10 00:00:39,359 --> 00:00:43,000 corner. I guess zero. Oh. By the way, it was me 11 00:00:43,079 --> 00:00:46,799 and my boyfriend tonight, just ordered to take out pizzas while we had dirty 12 00:00:46,840 --> 00:00:51,799 Martini's. So surprised we could order a white garlic pizza for ten bucks to 13 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:55,399 What a deal? Thanks again, So bTB, where do you find him? 14 00:00:55,399 --> 00:00:59,759 You find him in the mall at Grease Ridge. bTB would fired pizza. 15 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:04,280 Your old career gives you lemons throwing some ice mix in some vodka. 16 00:01:04,640 --> 00:01:11,159 We call it a podcast from the Mac of All Trade Studio in Fairport and 17 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:17,400 driven by Victor Chrysler Dots Jeep Ram. It's Billified but Bill Moran Podcast. 18 00:01:29,359 --> 00:01:32,799 Well, hello and welcome. Thanks for getting your pod on, Thanks for 19 00:01:32,840 --> 00:01:37,159 telling a friend. That's how we spread the word. And for fourth or 20 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:41,400 July and eating. When we get a guy today that will motivate you. 21 00:01:42,200 --> 00:01:49,560 For forty seven straight days, Sergeant Brett Sobarovski started each morning with a twenty 22 00:01:49,560 --> 00:01:55,840 six point two mile run. Man. That sounds insane to me. Yeah, 23 00:01:55,840 --> 00:01:57,799 I think all crazy a lot. Yeah, never as much as when 24 00:01:57,799 --> 00:02:00,480 I did this, I would think, yeah, they're crazy, the crazy 25 00:02:00,519 --> 00:02:06,840 running bank. Because so you're a former sergeant that led the RPD swat team. 26 00:02:06,920 --> 00:02:08,039 Yeah, I was a team leader on that swat team for the last 27 00:02:08,080 --> 00:02:13,879 fifteen years of my career. Okay, and you did this in honor of 28 00:02:14,840 --> 00:02:17,599 Tony massurka Witz. Yes, I did, and Tony who Now I think 29 00:02:17,639 --> 00:02:23,680 it came out that it was a gang that was involved in basically the assassination. 30 00:02:23,879 --> 00:02:30,680 It was basically they brought a hit man in from from Boston to you 31 00:02:30,719 --> 00:02:32,680 know, to take care of a rival gang and then Tony got caught in 32 00:02:32,599 --> 00:02:35,879 in the middle of that, right, got caught in the middle of that. 33 00:02:36,439 --> 00:02:38,719 Now, so you did this to raise money for his family, But 34 00:02:38,879 --> 00:02:45,319 I would think that someone had to say to you, there are other ways, 35 00:02:44,879 --> 00:02:49,719 since they lost somebody, there's other ways they did because you know, 36 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:53,759 I had to buy a motor home for this. So I literally had to 37 00:02:53,759 --> 00:02:55,639 buy a motor home for X amount of dollars. Like why why didn't you 38 00:02:55,680 --> 00:02:59,639 just give him the money for that? And I was like, because it 39 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:01,840 would have got the word out like it did here, Like I spread the 40 00:03:02,400 --> 00:03:07,360 word of you know, of his sacrifice, Yes, through eight states from 41 00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:10,599 Florida all the way up to New York. And you know, I talked 42 00:03:10,639 --> 00:03:15,360 to thousands of people who became aware of tony sacrifice. And the major reason 43 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:20,000 I did it was I felt like his death died like in a news cycle 44 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:23,479 or two and Roger So unfortunately, I mean, you're absolutely right. I 45 00:03:23,479 --> 00:03:25,960 mean this is where miss yeah, and this is where we live. These 46 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:30,639 are the times we live in because you're right. I mean used to be 47 00:03:30,240 --> 00:03:32,879 sometimes stories did have a longer time, Right, you would be on the 48 00:03:32,919 --> 00:03:36,759 front page a little bit more, or I would pick up a newspaper that 49 00:03:36,840 --> 00:03:40,319 came out yesterday and the story continues. Now everything is so quick, and 50 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:44,719 we had a yardstick to measure it by, unfortunately, which was Darryl Pearson 51 00:03:44,960 --> 00:03:46,879 was murdered in the line of duty two thousand and eight. Yeah, that 52 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:51,080 was in a news cycle for months and months, and it was so I 53 00:03:51,120 --> 00:03:53,360 was like, this didn't happen. There wasn't the amount of fundraising for Tony 54 00:03:53,439 --> 00:03:58,319 like there was for Daryl. And you know it's because of the certain times, 55 00:03:58,360 --> 00:04:00,520 because of the last three years basically where you know, law enforcement has 56 00:04:00,520 --> 00:04:04,960 been you know, demonized and vilified because of a few like horrible cops, 57 00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:12,520 criminal cops. It's funny because you're right. I always think that the fringe 58 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:15,959 gets the most attention these days of anything, Right, So if we get 59 00:04:15,959 --> 00:04:20,439 a few bad apples, they get the most attention if you're the loudest on 60 00:04:20,519 --> 00:04:25,000 either side, and most of what I'm referring to would be the political spectrum, 61 00:04:25,040 --> 00:04:27,560 even they're the ones that seem to get the most. But that's not 62 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:30,480 where most people are. No, that's not where most people are. That's 63 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:33,160 not how most police officers are. No, squeaky wheel gets degreased, right 64 00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:36,240 like you'll say, yeah, when you when you think about you know, 65 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:41,439 ninety nine point seven percent of cops go out there do that job great every 66 00:04:41,439 --> 00:04:45,120 single day, helping people, making a difference, and you know, for 67 00:04:45,199 --> 00:04:46,800 this to happen, I was like, I couldn't stand by and let that 68 00:04:46,879 --> 00:04:50,399 happen. And I thought maybe I could help make a difference at least, 69 00:04:50,439 --> 00:04:55,439 well you can. My question is where does the idea to then go, 70 00:04:55,680 --> 00:04:59,120 Oh, I know what I'll do. I'll go to Florida and I'll run 71 00:04:59,120 --> 00:05:02,759 a marathon every every day all the way back to Rochester. Yeah. So 72 00:05:02,839 --> 00:05:05,360 I didn't know how I was going to honor him. And at first I 73 00:05:05,399 --> 00:05:09,279 thought, well, maybe I can like go to a local track and run 74 00:05:09,279 --> 00:05:13,160 around a track for like two days straight and people can joining. And I 75 00:05:13,199 --> 00:05:15,519 was like, yeah, exactly. I'm like, you know, that's little 76 00:05:15,519 --> 00:05:18,079 mind numbing. So then I thought, well, maybe, you know, 77 00:05:18,240 --> 00:05:23,839 maybe I can run through a marathon in each state, do eight marathons. 78 00:05:24,199 --> 00:05:27,439 And I was like, it didn't match Tony's sacrifice, it didn't match his 79 00:05:27,519 --> 00:05:30,720 persona. I mean, he was larger than life, just as icon within 80 00:05:30,759 --> 00:05:32,959 the police department. So I said, I'm gonna I'm gonna run through eight 81 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:36,439 states. And the reason I picked eight was he worked in the Tactical Unit 82 00:05:36,519 --> 00:05:42,000 in the Rochester Police Department, very elite unit. Their number designator is eight. 83 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:45,199 Okay, So like Clinton Section is seven, Lake Section is one. 84 00:05:45,839 --> 00:05:47,480 So I said, I'm gonna use that eight number and I'm gonna run through 85 00:05:47,480 --> 00:05:55,360 eight states in his honor. So before you do something like this, you 86 00:05:55,360 --> 00:05:58,480 said he had to buy the motor home, which was a place for you 87 00:05:58,560 --> 00:06:01,920 then to sleep and and for someone to So you have to get somebody to 88 00:06:01,959 --> 00:06:05,879 come with you. Yes, okay, many people huh yeah, many people 89 00:06:05,920 --> 00:06:09,680 like they come down for five days at a time. Yeah, you know, 90 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:12,920 transferring it. But somebody has to be able to drive that thing. 91 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:15,160 Yes, right, you need somebody with a little bit of skill, you 92 00:06:15,199 --> 00:06:17,319 know what I mean. Yeah, it's got some dents and dings in it. 93 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:23,959 About for sale anyone listening slightly use motor home smells like a YMC a 94 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:29,079 locker way to sell it. Yes, did you consult with a doctor before 95 00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:31,839 doing this? No? Like I doctors don't understand me, and I've had 96 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:35,759 bad like um, not bad experiences, but they just don't understand like what 97 00:06:35,879 --> 00:06:39,439 makes me tick? I actually, so I wrote a book, and I 98 00:06:39,439 --> 00:06:42,600 actually gave the book to my doctor. Yeah. The book is called gray 99 00:06:42,600 --> 00:06:45,399 Man, An Average Man's Journey to Personal Greatness. Yeah, it just talks 100 00:06:45,399 --> 00:06:48,399 about how like me, it's my memoir, which is saying that is weird, 101 00:06:48,439 --> 00:06:50,600 Like I feel like I you know that I wrote a memoir, but 102 00:06:50,720 --> 00:06:57,279 about how average of a person I am athletically like subpower, don't have very 103 00:06:57,480 --> 00:07:00,759 athletic genes at all. So but then you talked to doctors, like, 104 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:02,959 you know, doctor would tell me not to do what I just did, 105 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:05,199 so I yeah, they would. Yeah, so I don't go to see 106 00:07:05,199 --> 00:07:09,959 doctors for that. You don't know, do you see a doctor on a 107 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:12,279 regular BAT would assume just for like a blood shut. Yeah, so I 108 00:07:12,319 --> 00:07:15,160 get my blood work done. Make sure you know that the cholesterols where it's 109 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:16,879 got to be in the blood pressure is. But short of that, no, 110 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:19,800 I don't really, I'm not a big I'm not a big fan of 111 00:07:19,839 --> 00:07:26,920 doctors. Okay, what did you learn about the human body? You probably 112 00:07:26,959 --> 00:07:31,240 could tell us more having done this experience where you ran for forty seven days 113 00:07:31,319 --> 00:07:40,040 straight every day a marathon actually was fifty Oh okay, so I was supposed 114 00:07:40,079 --> 00:07:43,439 to do forty eight, okay, but I had built in two buffer days 115 00:07:43,480 --> 00:07:46,759 in case the motor home broke down or you know, I broke down. 116 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:50,120 So none of that happened. So I got back here on Thursday, that 117 00:07:50,160 --> 00:07:54,879 which was forty seven marathons on Thursday. So in theory, I would have 118 00:07:54,920 --> 00:07:58,519 Friday and Saturday off and then Sunday was the big finish. Yeah, but 119 00:07:58,560 --> 00:08:00,959 I'm like, if I take two days off, my body's gonna start to 120 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:03,920 heal and it's gonna be really ugly. So I just did two additional marathons 121 00:08:05,040 --> 00:08:07,920 on those rest days to keep my body going the way it had been. 122 00:08:09,079 --> 00:08:11,839 Okay, But I learned. What I learned is and I read. I 123 00:08:11,959 --> 00:08:15,959 read a lot of research on doing this, because there's other people that have 124 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:18,279 crossed, you know, the United States, you know, whether west to 125 00:08:18,319 --> 00:08:20,360 east or north to south, I have done this, that have done this, 126 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:22,959 and what they say is you have to get past the first week. 127 00:08:24,360 --> 00:08:28,279 The first week is the toughest. Your body is acclimating, you're sore, 128 00:08:28,360 --> 00:08:30,839 you're tired. So I had that in the back of my mind, but 129 00:08:30,879 --> 00:08:33,960 it took me two weeks. The first two weeks I was struggling, Like 130 00:08:33,240 --> 00:08:37,240 I look at it as being the deep end of a pool and I was 131 00:08:37,320 --> 00:08:39,519 barely tread and water. Well, you started out. You couldn't start in 132 00:08:39,559 --> 00:08:43,559 a hotter fucking place unless you went to the desert. Man. I mean 133 00:08:43,559 --> 00:08:46,600 you were in Florida. I love the heat, but man, that's intense. 134 00:08:46,759 --> 00:08:50,120 That's not heat, that's like humidity, all of it. It was. 135 00:08:50,200 --> 00:08:52,759 Man. I was running down these and I just picked it off. 136 00:08:52,799 --> 00:08:54,720 I did a route. I laid in bed one night and I said, 137 00:08:54,720 --> 00:08:58,080 Okay, I'm gonna start in Plock of Florida. I have good friends there. 138 00:08:58,600 --> 00:09:01,240 What's the next, like north the thing I can run to. I'm 139 00:09:01,279 --> 00:09:03,080 like, well, folks in Georgia without and I'm like, let's do a 140 00:09:03,159 --> 00:09:07,519 route where I can't take the highways, where there's no tolls, so I 141 00:09:07,519 --> 00:09:11,039 can run on these roads. I'm not knowing, like the thirteen or fourteen 142 00:09:11,039 --> 00:09:13,879 miles a day. We're on these sandy roads in the middle of nowhere in 143 00:09:13,919 --> 00:09:18,279 Florida without any kind of cover, like just getting baked to death. Yeah, 144 00:09:18,360 --> 00:09:20,320 and it was, Yeah, it was interesting. So that I mean 145 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:24,480 that's where you started. Yes, Yeah, So that right there. I 146 00:09:24,519 --> 00:09:26,720 think you kind of put yourself behind the eight ball a little bit. But 147 00:09:26,799 --> 00:09:33,519 you're right. So my younger brother quit a job in New York City many 148 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:37,480 years ago, bought a bicycle, flew out to Seattle, hung out with 149 00:09:37,480 --> 00:09:41,200 a buddy, and then rode the bike. Having never done this, being 150 00:09:41,279 --> 00:09:46,960 never really trained for this, never did anything, and wrote it from Seattle 151 00:09:46,960 --> 00:09:50,960 to Virginia. Oh my gosh. That's ambitious. And I think it's one 152 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:52,919 of these things. And there are, like you said, you know, 153 00:09:52,960 --> 00:09:56,320 people who have done the marathon thing. There are books, and there are 154 00:09:56,799 --> 00:10:00,320 hostels that you can stay at, and people who welcome in the guys who 155 00:10:00,360 --> 00:10:01,879 were doing this trip, and you know, and so there were books and 156 00:10:01,919 --> 00:10:05,480 things that my dad bought them, and he went and did it, you 157 00:10:05,519 --> 00:10:09,559 know, setting up camp and everything. And I to this day he'll tell 158 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:11,399 you it's the best thing he ever did. And I think there were some 159 00:10:11,480 --> 00:10:16,039 really introspective days. I would think even for you, there had to be 160 00:10:16,080 --> 00:10:18,240 some days where it was very it's just you and your thoughts as you're running 161 00:10:18,679 --> 00:10:22,519 twenty six point two miles. I know there were people that joined you along 162 00:10:22,559 --> 00:10:26,480 the way, but not every mile. No, I ran. I will 163 00:10:26,519 --> 00:10:30,919 bet you I ran ninety percent of those marathons by myself. Yeah, like 164 00:10:31,120 --> 00:10:35,080 completely by myself. So you're running for four or four and a half hours. 165 00:10:35,159 --> 00:10:37,159 Yeah, there is a lot to think of, yeah, other than 166 00:10:37,240 --> 00:10:41,240 running. And I did learn it was it was a I call it an 167 00:10:41,240 --> 00:10:45,799 odyssey or an adventure. It was incredible. It was truly incredibly changed my 168 00:10:45,840 --> 00:10:50,799 life for many, many different reasons. Okay, before I want to find 169 00:10:50,799 --> 00:10:52,360 out about that. But as you're talking, and I'm thinking back to the 170 00:10:52,440 --> 00:10:58,080 doctor thing, there's a big thing now called biohacking, where people are trying 171 00:10:58,159 --> 00:11:01,639 to hack the human body and live longer. And there are some people who 172 00:11:01,679 --> 00:11:07,720 say statistically where the human body can probably go healthy one hundred and ten, 173 00:11:07,759 --> 00:11:11,879 maybe one hundred and twenty years. The oldest person to ever live was one 174 00:11:11,960 --> 00:11:15,240 hundred and twenty in France. And I think that was back I don't. 175 00:11:15,440 --> 00:11:18,679 I think it was at the beginning of the ninth of the twentieth century. 176 00:11:20,320 --> 00:11:22,279 But then there are guys now that are doing all kinds of things, taking 177 00:11:22,320 --> 00:11:26,480 the plasma of a seventeen year old, putting it into their body at forty 178 00:11:26,519 --> 00:11:31,480 five and trying to live and all that. Are you curious as to your 179 00:11:31,600 --> 00:11:35,480 chronological not your chronological ages, but your biological age verse your chronological age after 180 00:11:35,519 --> 00:11:39,080 doing this, I'm looking at you. You couldn't be more fit, and 181 00:11:39,200 --> 00:11:45,919 you're fifty six years old and he just ran fifty fucking days to day. 182 00:11:46,559 --> 00:11:50,519 It's it's so the oddity is, and I talk about it a little bit 183 00:11:50,519 --> 00:11:54,080 in my book, is the more I do this, the better I recover. 184 00:11:54,840 --> 00:11:58,159 So when I first started, you know, I think it was I 185 00:11:58,200 --> 00:12:01,279 think it was May Maybes, eighteen years ago. I did my first half 186 00:12:01,360 --> 00:12:05,960 marathon I did I ran thirteen point one miles. I couldn't run for two 187 00:12:05,960 --> 00:12:09,600 months after, Okay, like my body hurt for two months. And I 188 00:12:09,639 --> 00:12:13,519 did my first iron Man a triathlon. It was like three months. I 189 00:12:13,559 --> 00:12:18,159 was hemmed up, just aches and pains and everything hurt. And then the 190 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:20,320 more I did this, the quicker in my recovery comes. It's like it's 191 00:12:20,320 --> 00:12:24,559 almost like reverse aging. As far as the healing process. Did you learn 192 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:28,639 recovery tips as well? Do you do things that you didn't do maybe in 193 00:12:28,679 --> 00:12:31,639 the beginning, I don't know if it's stretching or sometimes those roller bars or 194 00:12:31,639 --> 00:12:35,159 pads or whatever they are, the people rolling muscles off. Yeah, that's 195 00:12:35,159 --> 00:12:39,000 exactly it. So I would during these eight States for mass I would work 196 00:12:39,039 --> 00:12:43,440 three to four hours a day on prehab and rehab a day, you know, 197 00:12:43,519 --> 00:12:48,799 in short segments ice right after, you know, rolling massages, the 198 00:12:48,879 --> 00:12:54,360 massage gun, essential oils, which I never believed that my girlfriend's a big 199 00:12:54,440 --> 00:12:58,960 essential oil person. And I would use this panaway which is like the nature's 200 00:12:58,080 --> 00:13:03,840 thing of gay or bio freeze, and that would help a lot of stretching. 201 00:13:05,519 --> 00:13:07,360 H these compression things I put on my legs at blow up Air. 202 00:13:07,519 --> 00:13:11,399 Yeah, yeah, so I really If I didn't do that, I would 203 00:13:11,399 --> 00:13:13,759 have broke. Do you lay ever with your feet up like on a wall 204 00:13:13,840 --> 00:13:18,080 or above your heart? You know? I read I'm a big fan of 205 00:13:18,159 --> 00:13:20,039 TikTok, but I always joke that I have old man TikTok right, because 206 00:13:20,039 --> 00:13:24,519 it's all it's all how to stretch before bad, It's all this shit. 207 00:13:24,799 --> 00:13:28,879 But I saw something that says the Navy seal, a Navy seal nap where 208 00:13:28,919 --> 00:13:31,919 you lay down for fifteen minutes with your feet up above you, like on 209 00:13:31,960 --> 00:13:35,480 a couch or something or an ottoman and you're laying on the on the floor 210 00:13:35,799 --> 00:13:37,399 and it just keeps the I don't know, I do that every once in 211 00:13:37,399 --> 00:13:41,000 a while. I feel great. That's hilarious because there's a policeman who was 212 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:43,879 a great hockey player, Dave Simpson. He goes, what do you think 213 00:13:43,879 --> 00:13:46,480 we do between periods playing hockey? He goes, All the hockey players are 214 00:13:46,519 --> 00:13:50,120 on their butt with their legs against the lockers, letting the lactic acid rain 215 00:13:50,200 --> 00:13:54,519 out. So I would put those sleeves on. They would pump full of 216 00:13:54,559 --> 00:13:56,879 air. And I think what that would do is I'm in the back of 217 00:13:56,879 --> 00:14:01,600 the motor home feet elevated. It pumps that squeezes the lactic acid out of 218 00:14:01,600 --> 00:14:05,200 my muscles back into my heart, all that bad blood. And then I 219 00:14:05,200 --> 00:14:07,240 would drink a ton of water and I would pee, and the whole toilet 220 00:14:07,240 --> 00:14:11,679 bowl would be full of foam, and that foam is lactic acid. Wow, 221 00:14:11,799 --> 00:14:15,039 like it was. So I have this little joke with Todd Baxter because 222 00:14:15,360 --> 00:14:18,919 the Shared Good Sheriff wrote the forward to my book, And in my book 223 00:14:18,960 --> 00:14:22,240 I talk about how you know I pee you a toilet bowl and it's just 224 00:14:22,320 --> 00:14:24,000 full of foam, And he batches something like, Hey, if you think 225 00:14:24,480 --> 00:14:28,799 a toilet full of foam is a bad thing, you better read this book. 226 00:14:28,080 --> 00:14:31,720 So I'm sending pictures of it all the time. I take a picture 227 00:14:31,720 --> 00:14:33,440 of my peace. I send it to Baxter. He's like, oh gosh, 228 00:14:33,440 --> 00:14:37,879 he goes, I see you're stretching again. Huh. So you said 229 00:14:37,919 --> 00:14:41,440 this changed your life, how oh many different ways? I So the biggest 230 00:14:41,480 --> 00:14:45,480 unknown was day two. So I run the first marathon, and I didn't 231 00:14:45,559 --> 00:14:48,960 run a marathon in training because you just can't go that fire. I would 232 00:14:48,960 --> 00:14:50,879 probably break in training. So I went to bed that night thinking like, 233 00:14:50,919 --> 00:14:54,919 what's going to happen on day two? And I told myself, I'm like, 234 00:14:54,919 --> 00:14:56,080 we know what's gonna happen is you're gonna get up and run, because 235 00:14:56,080 --> 00:14:58,960 that's what you said you were gonna do. And every day that happened, 236 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:03,679 and I found out that, you know, it was more it was more 237 00:15:03,759 --> 00:15:09,799 mental than physical, Like the mental toughness about convincing yourself that this aching pain 238 00:15:09,879 --> 00:15:13,440 I had behind my knees not gonna stop me tomorrow. We're gonna figure it 239 00:15:13,480 --> 00:15:16,679 out. We're gonna work through it. And then when the right leg goes 240 00:15:16,799 --> 00:15:18,960 bad, we're gonna figure that out. But what I really learned the most 241 00:15:20,039 --> 00:15:26,360 was about humanity was the just the wonderful, decent, hard working, gracious, 242 00:15:26,600 --> 00:15:31,720 kind people I met along the way, like I'm talking hundreds that gave 243 00:15:31,759 --> 00:15:33,720 me their last dollar out of their pocket to give to the Missurka, which 244 00:15:33,759 --> 00:15:37,679 family was incredible, like incredible. You can't you know, we watched the 245 00:15:37,720 --> 00:15:41,879 news and we think of how divided we are. But the fringes are divided, 246 00:15:41,960 --> 00:15:46,240 right, the fire fire left, fire fire, right, But there's 247 00:15:46,240 --> 00:15:48,879 all of us in the middle that kind of still get along and still kind 248 00:15:48,879 --> 00:15:52,159 of get what America's about. And I saw that at the ground floor. 249 00:15:52,320 --> 00:15:56,440 Yeah, that's amazing at the ground floor. It has to feel incredible to 250 00:15:56,519 --> 00:16:00,039 see that and make you feel good about this country. It's beautiful. I 251 00:16:00,039 --> 00:16:03,240 saw the fabric of America. I saying it is beautiful. And the people 252 00:16:03,279 --> 00:16:07,320 that came down I could I could go on Instagram and Facebook and tell of 253 00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:11,120 these stories. But the people that came down and helped me and witness it 254 00:16:11,399 --> 00:16:15,320 said it changed their life. Like they're like reading about it and then seeing 255 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:22,679 it firsthand is incredible, just incredible. Yeah, I'm still smiling about it. 256 00:16:22,679 --> 00:16:25,399 Like I said, all these people that strangers that would I would tell 257 00:16:25,440 --> 00:16:29,799 the story because there's only there's two missions of eight states from mass to honor 258 00:16:29,879 --> 00:16:34,080 his sacrifice and let other people know how Tony lived and how he died, 259 00:16:34,399 --> 00:16:38,320 and then to comfort the family financially and emotionally, and to see these people 260 00:16:38,320 --> 00:16:42,600 from eight states away who never know Tony Mazurkowitz and come out and hug me, 261 00:16:42,679 --> 00:16:47,279 to tell me, to hug the family and to honor his sacrifice without 262 00:16:47,320 --> 00:16:49,679 ever meeting him. It was mission accomplished. Yeah, I get a little 263 00:16:49,679 --> 00:16:52,919 em Yeah, it was incredible. Well, I think it's incredible. Do 264 00:16:52,919 --> 00:16:56,080 you mind saying how much you raised doing this? So the goal was one 265 00:16:56,159 --> 00:17:00,559 hundred thousand, and everyone told me you better back that off by about fifty 266 00:17:00,559 --> 00:17:03,120 percent. It's just unrealistic. And I'm like, well, people say it's 267 00:17:03,159 --> 00:17:06,200 unrealistic to run from Florida to New York. So I'm not backing it off. 268 00:17:06,200 --> 00:17:07,400 And we're over one hundred grand now I think we're pretty close to one 269 00:17:07,440 --> 00:17:11,519 hundred and ten thousand for the family. It's amazing, It's totally amazing. 270 00:17:11,359 --> 00:17:15,319 Let's just pause here for a moment. But when we come back, I 271 00:17:15,400 --> 00:17:19,960 want to talk about belief. Right, believe all this is the thought that 272 00:17:21,039 --> 00:17:23,319 we think over and over and over again. 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Yes, this is not the you know, running fifty 306 00:20:34,880 --> 00:20:38,720 straight days of marathon every day. I'm thinking back to to you know, 307 00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:42,480 the marathon started. It's a way to deliver mail. Yes, you know 308 00:20:42,519 --> 00:20:47,640 what I mean. So I wonder if back did the Greeks know about the 309 00:20:47,720 --> 00:20:51,279 human body more than we do today in terms of being able to push it 310 00:20:51,359 --> 00:20:55,960 and do things. Because I was gonna say this isn't the first insane thing 311 00:20:55,960 --> 00:20:57,680 to do, but I don't like to say it that way because I think 312 00:20:57,680 --> 00:21:03,759 it's the first. Um, I don't know if it's it's not the first 313 00:21:03,759 --> 00:21:06,039 that man, excuse me, insame thing you've done. But I would say 314 00:21:06,039 --> 00:21:10,000 the most. Uh, I don't even know. Self sacrificing, noble, 315 00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:14,680 pushing yourself, it's everything. It's the way we should be and we're not, 316 00:21:15,519 --> 00:21:18,640 or most people should be and we're not. Yeah, And I think 317 00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:22,440 this was what made us you know interesting, I guess was the duration of 318 00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:26,279 it, you know, for fifty days? Uh to you know, to 319 00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:29,519 run that? So most things I've done before. You're over in a well 320 00:21:29,559 --> 00:21:32,359 a day or two and you're done. But no, the last thing I 321 00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:34,640 remember you doing was running the canal from Buffalo to Albany. Yeah, fifty 322 00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:37,640 hours for two days. Fifty hours. Yeah, so I ran in like 323 00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:41,319 one hundred and seventy six miles straights. So yeah, I was like after 324 00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:44,319 two days, you know, I could lay down for it, you know, 325 00:21:44,519 --> 00:21:48,599 and recover. So these fifty days it was a Yeah, I'm not 326 00:21:48,599 --> 00:21:52,079 sure if it's the hardest thing I did, but it was certainly the longest, 327 00:21:52,279 --> 00:21:55,119 like grind day in and day out, and you know, there's nights 328 00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:56,440 I went to bed wondering if I was going to run the next day because 329 00:21:56,440 --> 00:22:00,400 I had these elements that stopped me in my tracks. And um, but 330 00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:03,519 I was so happy to do it, like I was proud to do it. 331 00:22:03,559 --> 00:22:07,039 I was. I felt like it was my my duty to do it. 332 00:22:07,079 --> 00:22:08,880 I guess. Yeah, well, that's where I was going to say 333 00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:12,240 to you. You know, I'm I'm a big believer and have said on 334 00:22:12,279 --> 00:22:18,000 the pod a lot that if you have an idea to do something and you 335 00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:22,680 really believe in it, don't say anything to anybody because they're gonna say things 336 00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:26,079 to you, and not to be mean, They're not. They're gonna just 337 00:22:26,119 --> 00:22:29,279 put but from their perspective, they're going to give you their advice, and 338 00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:33,160 their advice is going to be set your goal fifty percent less for raising money 339 00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:37,400 for the missourko Wits family. Correct. And yet here you believed, you 340 00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:41,680 believed you would, and you did you know, and that that that's the 341 00:22:41,759 --> 00:22:45,079 thing that I think, like most of us, don't, you know, 342 00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:48,799 we look at people like yourself, or we think of sports heroes or guys 343 00:22:48,799 --> 00:22:52,920 who have done incredible things and we go, wow, it's just amazing. 344 00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:56,559 But anybody can if you just you have to believe, like really believe, 345 00:22:56,799 --> 00:23:00,359 and there can be no negative thought in there. You can't have any doubt, 346 00:23:00,559 --> 00:23:03,079 you know. I always like to use the story from the Bible when 347 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:07,119 Jesus would heal somebody and then say go forth and tell no one, And 348 00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:11,160 the reason he said that was because they're gonna go. Yeah, he did 349 00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:12,480 give it a week, man, it'll be back here. I mean, 350 00:23:12,839 --> 00:23:15,079 you know, I mean that that kind of thing. And once you get 351 00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:19,359 that doubt, it has to be almost this pure positive belief. And I 352 00:23:19,799 --> 00:23:23,640 gotta tell you, when you invest in a motor home. You there was 353 00:23:23,759 --> 00:23:29,599 no doubt in your mind. No, And I this story three different people 354 00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:33,079 told me before I left, asked me I should say, and I appreciate 355 00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:36,759 their candor that's the only thing I appreciate about it is what are you gonna 356 00:23:36,799 --> 00:23:38,960 do when you don't finish? That was the questions posted me. God, 357 00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:41,960 well what do you do when you don't finish? Like what's the plan? 358 00:23:41,079 --> 00:23:44,839 Be? Like? How are you going to work that out? Because June 359 00:23:44,839 --> 00:23:48,799 eleventh was always the end date with having these people run the last three miles 360 00:23:48,839 --> 00:23:52,119 with me in front of the family. So I said, I look at 361 00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:53,640 him and said, I don't have a plan for that, Like, well, 362 00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:57,960 what you should start thinking about that? And I always said, you 363 00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:02,799 know, if you started making these contingency plans for something like this, you 364 00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:06,079 plant seed, it's gonna grow if you If you say, well, the 365 00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:10,839 contingency is I'll skip a state and I'll start up five days later, that's 366 00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:12,559 that seed is in the back of your mind. You plant that seeds is 367 00:24:12,559 --> 00:24:15,039 probably gonna grow. So I'm like, there's no contingency. You do it 368 00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:19,240 or you don't like and I'm not gonna don't. So but what was great 369 00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:23,319 about those three people was when I was suffering the most, either these mountains 370 00:24:23,319 --> 00:24:26,640 in West Virginia or the heat in Florida, I would think of that. 371 00:24:26,759 --> 00:24:30,640 Would those are like, oh yeah, like I have this huge inferno inside 372 00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:33,839 of me, and there's times when it starts to smolder. So that's a 373 00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:37,799 giant log. People doubting me, where does that come from? Um? 374 00:24:37,839 --> 00:24:41,960 I think you know it's over years. Man. Like I said, I 375 00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:45,599 was this kid who couldn't even earn a varsity letter jacket in high school. 376 00:24:45,599 --> 00:24:48,480 You're kidding. I tried. I tried. I tried. You go to 377 00:24:48,519 --> 00:24:52,079 high school, Lockport High School, which is like didn't have the greatest athletes 378 00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:56,000 there, like four hundred kids like graduating class. But so I couldn't make 379 00:24:56,039 --> 00:24:57,880 any The only team I can make is a track team because they didn't cut 380 00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:02,279 anyone. And I you had to earn, like you had to race varsity 381 00:25:02,279 --> 00:25:06,440 and coming first, second or third and gather enough points. I couldn't earn 382 00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:08,200 a letter jacket. So I come, you know, and you know, 383 00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:11,880 I smoke for sixteen years, two packs a day. You know, was 384 00:25:12,039 --> 00:25:17,319 unhealthy, A bad a very bad role model for my sons. And I 385 00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:18,880 turned this around. But I didn't turn this around in a year or two. 386 00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:22,799 This is like, from where I'm at now is eighteen year odyssey of 387 00:25:23,279 --> 00:25:29,119 little baby steps. So eventually I learned about this giant flame. And that's 388 00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:32,599 how I see it, like when I'm suffering, when I'm truly like inside 389 00:25:32,599 --> 00:25:37,480 out, and you can't hide behind like false bravado or my cheese mole or 390 00:25:37,519 --> 00:25:41,200 anything, and it's I tell people, it's like a botomfire. We've all 391 00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:42,839 been to a bonfire. When you first walk up to a boonofire, you 392 00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:45,480 get as close as you can, and then it starts to burn a little 393 00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:49,680 bit. We stop, but if you stand there long enough, it gets 394 00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:52,799 it. You get acclimated to it, and you're like, I'm not hot 395 00:25:52,839 --> 00:25:55,480 anymore. You take a few more steps towards it. That's what I did 396 00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:59,079 over the last eighteen years until I was able to get in the center of 397 00:25:59,079 --> 00:26:02,519 it. So talk to me about growing up. What did your parents do. 398 00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:04,960 My dad was a police officer in Lockport for twenty eight years. I 399 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:07,640 was forced enough to work with him for a few months when I got hired 400 00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:11,680 by Lockport at the very unripe age of twenty one. My mom was a 401 00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:15,440 stay at home mom. Then as we got older, myself and my two 402 00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:18,640 sisters, she took a job at the hospital. Is like medical records. 403 00:26:19,279 --> 00:26:22,160 In Lockport was the greatest place to grow up when the lights came is truly 404 00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:26,079 when the lights came out and you went home at night. Yeah, parks 405 00:26:26,079 --> 00:26:29,079 were like a quarter mile on either direction, so you could walk to the 406 00:26:29,079 --> 00:26:32,160 parks, spent all summer there. Just a great, great little city. 407 00:26:32,319 --> 00:26:36,599 Yeah. But I mean in terms of like this, right, this this, 408 00:26:36,839 --> 00:26:41,119 push yourself, strive to be more. I'm not gonna say be the 409 00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:44,240 best, but but more, push yourself, do it for you. I 410 00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:47,480 mean that's the thing like in life. I don't think we think of it 411 00:26:48,079 --> 00:26:52,359 enough. It's only really about you and the satisfaction you get. And if 412 00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:56,160 you are no, no, but but yeah. But also but on top 413 00:26:56,160 --> 00:27:00,200 of that, if you aren't feeling your best, like you come in here. 414 00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:02,119 You got a big smile on your face, you got a lot of 415 00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:06,519 energy. I saw you before you did this over at Iron Smoke when we 416 00:27:06,519 --> 00:27:10,240 were right. I saw you before you again, same energy, same positivity. 417 00:27:10,839 --> 00:27:11,920 I would have never said to you, do you have a contingency plan? 418 00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:17,440 I just either, But I'm just saying like so, but all of 419 00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:21,160 that, right, this this push yourself. But if you're not feeling that 420 00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:22,519 way, you're no good to anybody else. And I think a lot of 421 00:27:22,559 --> 00:27:27,480 people see some things as maybe self care or working out or taking time for 422 00:27:27,519 --> 00:27:33,200 yourself is selfish. But I've started to believe as I've gotten older, that 423 00:27:33,279 --> 00:27:37,119 it's not it's it's it's what makes you good for your sons, for your 424 00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:41,960 girlfriend, for the mass the Mazerkowitz family absolutely, and I you know, 425 00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:45,440 I don't think you know, and chasing your dreams, like I get, 426 00:27:45,519 --> 00:27:49,279 you have to balance that with family life, and family always comes first. 427 00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:55,359 But I think part of the part of the problem is instead of chasing our 428 00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:57,279 own dreams, we chase the Joneses and the Smiths. So you want to 429 00:27:57,319 --> 00:28:00,599 have what they have or what they do, and we're compare ourselves. And 430 00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:06,359 that's where I first experienced personal greatness because what happened was I was played a 431 00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:08,079 cruel joke. When I was born. I was They said to me, 432 00:28:08,279 --> 00:28:11,720 whoever made me? You know, people will say God, other people call 433 00:28:11,799 --> 00:28:15,759 it different things. They said, let's give this kid zero athletic ability. 434 00:28:17,039 --> 00:28:21,519 Let's make them uniquely averages averages could be average height, average weight, average 435 00:28:21,559 --> 00:28:23,680 intelligence, but let's have them always want to be great, like on a 436 00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:27,880 global level. How do you ever become great when you don't have the makeup 437 00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:32,920 to become that? Well, I'll tell you how. And I think there's 438 00:28:33,519 --> 00:28:37,519 part of it is consistency, right, showing up yes every day, and 439 00:28:37,559 --> 00:28:44,079 then I would say setting goals, but I don't even know if they're necessarily 440 00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:48,319 goals, but just I'm gonna do this, right, I'm gonna do this. 441 00:28:48,559 --> 00:28:52,480 And I think the way you were saying it is, I think anything 442 00:28:52,519 --> 00:28:55,559 in life, like you know, people go, I want like you're saying, 443 00:28:55,559 --> 00:28:57,680 I want all this stuff. If you got everything that's coming to you 444 00:28:57,720 --> 00:29:00,240 in life all at once, wouldn't want it. If you got all the 445 00:29:00,279 --> 00:29:03,160 food you were ever gonna eat in your life today, you wouldn't want it. 446 00:29:03,279 --> 00:29:07,680 You couldn't do it. But you know the unfolding, right, and 447 00:29:07,759 --> 00:29:11,799 the journey of that. And look at how much you seem to be happier 448 00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:18,039 about the last eighteen years than the two pack a day sixteen years prior. 449 00:29:18,519 --> 00:29:22,119 Because I started trying not to be great globally because it could never happen, 450 00:29:22,359 --> 00:29:26,599 but to be great in my own skin. Yeah. Like, so my 451 00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:30,680 greatness is I ran fifty marathons. Someone else's greatness maybe to get off the 452 00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:33,759 couch and run a five k. Mine isn't any greater than theirs. Their 453 00:29:33,839 --> 00:29:37,440 feeling of greatness will probably match my feeling of greatness. So it's when I 454 00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:42,119 stopped comparing myself, when I started setting my own unique goals and how I 455 00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:45,079 judge myself as how far I can turn myself inside up. Well, are 456 00:29:45,119 --> 00:29:48,640 your parents still alive? No, they're both passed. They're both passed. 457 00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:52,039 Your sons are around. Yeah, So I had My oldest son's a police 458 00:29:52,039 --> 00:29:56,200 officer. He's third generation RPD with he's got eight and a half years on. 459 00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:59,400 And my youngest son works at a plug power the hydrogen plan out in 460 00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:03,119 Henrietta. So I've two great boys man plus so and so and they have 461 00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:06,799 to be just blown away by all this. Yeah, and they've always supported 462 00:30:06,799 --> 00:30:08,640 me. None of them have gotten into athletics like I had, but let's 463 00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:11,960 face it, I didn't get into it till I was in my you know, 464 00:30:11,079 --> 00:30:15,640 mid to late thirty so, um, but they both do their own 465 00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:21,680 like unique things, Like my oldest son loves riding is Harley So he's gonna 466 00:30:21,759 --> 00:30:25,519 ride the end of this month, he's gonna ride from Florida, I'm sorry, 467 00:30:25,519 --> 00:30:27,440 from New York to key West NonStop. And then he's going from Key 468 00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:33,000 West to Alaska by himself on his motorcycle, then back to New York. 469 00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:36,160 So he's got a little bit of the crazy gene and yeah, but just 470 00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:41,799 just a different way of showing Yeah, okay, Yeah, what do you 471 00:30:41,839 --> 00:30:45,079 hope people kind of learn from from this, from this journey that you did? 472 00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:48,759 Um, I think it's and I hate to it sounds almost self centered, 473 00:30:48,759 --> 00:30:52,000 but you a person can help make a difference. Yeah, and it 474 00:30:52,079 --> 00:30:55,599 wasn't you know, I had this we talked about. I had a huge 475 00:30:55,599 --> 00:31:00,200 support staff. I had people come down, burn vacation time, catch air 476 00:31:00,039 --> 00:31:03,599 air planes. You know, they had to pay for their tickets, had 477 00:31:03,599 --> 00:31:07,039 to rent cars. A lot of people sacrifice so that I could I could 478 00:31:07,039 --> 00:31:10,279 succeed. But it was a huge team effort. You know, there's probably 479 00:31:10,279 --> 00:31:12,960 twenty thirty people that helped me day in and day out and sacrifice. I 480 00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:18,200 would say, no, you know, having started this right, nobody does 481 00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:19,720 it alone. You don't do it alone. You just don't. Now, 482 00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:22,960 can you be the one to spearheaded. Is your vision? Is it all 483 00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:27,480 that? Sure? But you need people that are supportive and that says a 484 00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:30,200 lot about you. Realize what that says about you? Though, no, 485 00:31:30,359 --> 00:31:33,039 I'm too close to it. Tell you. What I'm saying is how people 486 00:31:33,079 --> 00:31:37,200 would be willing to burn vacations, the money to be part of something that 487 00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:41,519 you're doing. That that that's quite a testament to you. And I don't 488 00:31:41,559 --> 00:31:45,319 I don't let anyone just come down. And that's probably like the selfish part 489 00:31:45,359 --> 00:31:49,079 of it. It's all people who I truly truly love and trust and respect 490 00:31:49,599 --> 00:31:52,799 because you know, they have to. They have to be that type of 491 00:31:52,839 --> 00:31:56,880 people because they're going to sacrifice so much for me while I'm while I'm trying 492 00:31:56,880 --> 00:32:00,359 to succeed. And these are the people that have been with me, like 493 00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:02,799 they've been out to California with me for races, They've been when I went 494 00:32:02,839 --> 00:32:07,920 across the lake all this, like the what do you mean I swam the 495 00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:10,519 lake? I swam across. I swam across Lake Ontario from Fort Niagara to 496 00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:15,680 a Toronto a couple of years back. Okay, NonStop, non stop? 497 00:32:15,759 --> 00:32:19,920 Yeah, thirty two miles. How long did it take? Twenty one hours? 498 00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:22,759 And fifteen minutes of straight in the water that whole time I did. 499 00:32:22,759 --> 00:32:25,319 It almost killed me. Yeah, I felt I felt like the lake was 500 00:32:25,319 --> 00:32:28,559 gonna try to kill me. It. Uh. We started off. It 501 00:32:28,599 --> 00:32:30,880 was easy, I mean so lake. We started off at the mouth of 502 00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:35,920 the lake or the Niagara River, so that water coming out of there. 503 00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:37,880 I swimming like Michael Phelps for like the first three miles. I'm like, 504 00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:43,119 this is gonna be easy. I got halfway through and my shoulders burned so 505 00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:45,000 bad. My eyes were water and every time, you know, doing freestyle, 506 00:32:45,559 --> 00:32:51,519 then the lake kicked up, got rough, and then I got hypothermia, 507 00:32:51,559 --> 00:32:53,599 and then the lake kicked up again, and then I got hypothermia a 508 00:32:53,599 --> 00:32:59,000 second time. My skin was completely see through purple. And then I got 509 00:32:59,039 --> 00:33:01,880 a virus where I couldn't stop, had NonStop diarrhea, had a swim with 510 00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:07,039 like with my trunks around my knees because I could just couldn't stop pooping in 511 00:33:07,079 --> 00:33:09,680 the lake. In the lake, because I drank so much of that nasty 512 00:33:09,759 --> 00:33:13,480 lake water by accident on a few times, I thought I was gonna drown. 513 00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:15,640 And this is a for like twenty one and a half hours, like 514 00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:19,519 you could, I felt that you did that and then decided, Hey, 515 00:33:19,559 --> 00:33:22,279 I'll run fifty states or fifty marathons. Excuse me, Yeah, I mean 516 00:33:22,319 --> 00:33:27,480 they're so they're all like um, like you can't never rest on your laurels, 517 00:33:27,519 --> 00:33:30,279 but they're all like things I can draw from when things get tough, 518 00:33:30,359 --> 00:33:32,640 like oh man, like this is tough, but remember how tough that was? 519 00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:37,400 Yeah? What was the lake? One for? Um? I swam 520 00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:40,440 for All In, All the Time. So Tommy Valentine was Navy seal. 521 00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:45,720 I met him and another guy I called Weimo, and they were training in 522 00:33:45,799 --> 00:33:49,440 Rochester when I was very young in my SWAT career. They befriended us. 523 00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:52,559 They let us go down to like you know, they're from Seal Team what 524 00:33:52,559 --> 00:33:57,400 they would call Seal Team six, they're now called dev Grew Developmental Group, 525 00:33:57,839 --> 00:34:01,160 and they let us use their facility and damn At his top secret navy facility 526 00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:05,759 for us to train. So we became good friends. And about three years 527 00:34:05,799 --> 00:34:09,079 after I met Tommy Valentine, he died in training in a parachute accident and 528 00:34:09,159 --> 00:34:13,599 his wife started All In, All the Time foundation. So I swam for 529 00:34:13,639 --> 00:34:15,960 that. So you know, I've done, you know, And we talked 530 00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:19,960 about it before like quitting or stopping or not finishing it. So I've done 531 00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:22,280 it for Tommy Valentine. I've raised money for Billy Mahoney, who was a 532 00:34:23,559 --> 00:34:30,039 Rochester police sergeant who died suddenly. For Tony Mazurkowitz, I did. I 533 00:34:30,079 --> 00:34:32,000 went down and honored Darryl Pearson. So people are like, well, what 534 00:34:32,039 --> 00:34:36,079 happens like if you don't finish. I'm like, well, like forty fifty 535 00:34:36,119 --> 00:34:38,159 years from now, we talk about you know, I expect to live to 536 00:34:38,199 --> 00:34:40,719 be a hundred. I guess after one hundred, I give up, Like 537 00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:45,440 I'll go to sleep and not wake up. But it's sometime in the future. 538 00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:46,639 I gotta go meet these people, like I gotta sit across the table 539 00:34:46,679 --> 00:34:49,920 like we're doing. Now what do I do? And I fail? Say, 540 00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:53,079 hey man, did I honor your sacrifice? Did I honor your good 541 00:34:53,159 --> 00:34:57,599 name? Then you got to live with that fraternity. So like, failure 542 00:34:57,679 --> 00:35:00,760 is not an option. Yeah, quitting's never not now when you're doing it 543 00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:02,960 for something for me at least, yes, And but these ideas, I 544 00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:07,079 mean, stuff isn't. I mean it really is. It's pushing the human 545 00:35:07,119 --> 00:35:12,079 body to the limit. I mean, boy to get sick and be purple 546 00:35:12,119 --> 00:35:15,199 and swimming. I mean, you should have just taken the shorts off. 547 00:35:15,639 --> 00:35:19,800 Well I would I actually thought about that. I'm like, you know, 548 00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:22,639 no, my luck, like something would happen and I'd die. Never never 549 00:35:22,679 --> 00:35:23,639 I am. There's a picture of me dead, floating in the water, 550 00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:28,239 like naked as hell. My. You know my parents, actually both of 551 00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:30,559 my parents, they were alive at that point. I'm like, what do 552 00:35:30,639 --> 00:35:32,360 they say to that? What do you what do your parents say? They 553 00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:37,480 never really I don't know if they truly understood well my mom. So this 554 00:35:37,559 --> 00:35:39,960 is I have many fears in life. The biggest fear is my mom was 555 00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:45,440 in a nursing home at my age, nonverbal, with early onset dementia and 556 00:35:45,519 --> 00:35:49,639 probably some mini strokes real so she and then she was healthy at Hacks. 557 00:35:49,639 --> 00:35:52,039 So I got my healthiness from her. You know, back when people didn't 558 00:35:52,039 --> 00:35:55,480 work out, she would do like a robic and she'd swim, she'd walk 559 00:35:55,519 --> 00:35:59,320 everywhere. So she lived in this nursing home for like the better part of 560 00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:02,800 twenty years because her body was so healthy, but her mind was not okay, 561 00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:07,440 So you know that that often worries me. So she never really understood. 562 00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:09,639 She never really understood I didn't get into this until she was, you 563 00:36:09,679 --> 00:36:15,039 know, fully into dementia Alzheimer's. My dad was just like he was just 564 00:36:15,079 --> 00:36:15,880 looking at me, kind of shake his head like, you know, I 565 00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:20,519 didn't understand it, and I understand he comes from a generation that doesn't. 566 00:36:20,519 --> 00:36:24,079 He was supremely proud. Yes, I'm sure I couldn't understand what I'm doing? 567 00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:28,679 What was So then I guess what, you know, why don't we 568 00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:30,800 pause for just a moment and then I'll ask you and you can think about 569 00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:36,960 this what inspires you, you know, as you've done more and more of 570 00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:42,760 these, and that Lake one sounds like that grueling isn't even a word. 571 00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:45,079 It was you know, I was a fifty fifth person to do it, 572 00:36:45,159 --> 00:36:49,559 or fifty fourth person. It's a thing. So who knows who realizes that 573 00:36:49,599 --> 00:36:52,960 this is a thing that started with some sixteen year old girl? Did her 574 00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:55,159 fourteen year old girl did it forever ago? Yeah, and there's like an 575 00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:58,559 established route. I just said I'm going to do it, and then I 576 00:36:58,599 --> 00:37:01,320 did the research. 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Jimmy z Is teaming up with CARM bringing out 619 00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:59,880 the food truck. That's like a tag team from the w W E rate. 620 00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:05,119 It is a fantastic idea. They're bring your classic car for if you 621 00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:07,440 if you have a classic car, bring it down. They're gonna have a 622 00:40:07,519 --> 00:40:10,440 car show and of course they're gonna have all kinds of family fun going on. 623 00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:16,039 Raffles, grand opening specials all there July fifteenth. That is a Saturday. 624 00:40:16,199 --> 00:40:20,800 I think we should be out there ourselves. Uh, with the largest 625 00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:23,440 Wrangler inventory in the area. You just want to plate. I want some 626 00:40:23,559 --> 00:40:25,199 Jimmy Z. You know, want to hug, You want to hug, 627 00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:30,440 You want to hug Carman dammera plate. I like the I like the firecrackers 628 00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:32,239 that they have at Jimmy Z's plates and shakes. It's like these pepperoni rolled 629 00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:37,639 up Pepperoni six. So good, so good. But everything you get out 630 00:40:37,639 --> 00:40:38,800 there, you can take a look at, like the big Horn trunk. 631 00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:43,159 You can take a look at all the Wranglers. It's all right there at 632 00:40:43,280 --> 00:41:00,280 Victor Chrysler, Dodgejeep Ram. You have to moral things. We're gone. 633 00:41:01,159 --> 00:41:07,719 I work for all my life and I had to start again with just my 634 00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:16,639 churlren and my wife. I thank my lucky stars to be living here Aday 635 00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:23,719 because the flag still stands for freedom and they can't take that away. I 636 00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:28,079 don't know why I find these like songs, and I know you know where 637 00:41:28,119 --> 00:41:30,960 this is coming a little after the fourth July, but still you are like, 638 00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:37,360 you're like the all American, You're you know what. There's somebody I 639 00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:42,119 forget who. It was an actor and he kept saying I'm a human doing, 640 00:41:42,239 --> 00:41:45,960 not a human being. I know what I mean. I mean right 641 00:41:45,039 --> 00:41:49,159 that that's you, because you know, there's a lot of people that talk, 642 00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:52,280 but the act of doing, the act of acting is so important, 643 00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:57,159 and just for the little things, and just for the little things is those 644 00:41:57,280 --> 00:42:00,320 turn into big things? And all the things you've done, what would be 645 00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:05,679 the most satisfying. I mean, having swam across the lake, you ran 646 00:42:06,199 --> 00:42:12,239 down the canal, You've now run fifty marathons in eight states, so you're 647 00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:15,599 looking for athletic stuff. But I'm gonna say the most satisfying thing I ever 648 00:42:15,679 --> 00:42:19,960 did was I had this not so bright idea I built my own house. 649 00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:22,840 Okay, I'm talking about I built in my own hands. Yeah, like 650 00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:25,800 I did the entire thing myself, except for the foundation, the drywall, 651 00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:30,079 and the heating. Yea wait, Dad did that way over my head. 652 00:42:30,079 --> 00:42:32,039 And I say myself. Great friends helped me. My dad was alive at 653 00:42:32,079 --> 00:42:36,960 the time. But this was and I remember I wasn't tough at that time. 654 00:42:37,079 --> 00:42:39,519 I wasn't mentally tough. I didn't have grit stick to witness. And 655 00:42:39,639 --> 00:42:44,079 I got three months into this project, probably closer to four, and I 656 00:42:44,119 --> 00:42:45,559 went out there one day and I was, so, I'm working on this. 657 00:42:45,639 --> 00:42:50,840 I'm working forty hours a week at work. I'm working an additional fifty 658 00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:54,440 hours a week building this house, four hours every night after work, fourteen 659 00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:58,559 hours on Saturday, fourteen hours on Sunday. And I go out to the 660 00:42:58,599 --> 00:43:00,719 work one day and I look at the back of it. I'm like, 661 00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:02,519 there's no way I'm finishing this, Like I want this to burn down. 662 00:43:02,719 --> 00:43:06,960 I hope it gets hit by lightning. I can't finish this. And I'm 663 00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:08,800 like, but I have this money tied up into it. I have this 664 00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:13,280 building loan, and so I don't even put my tool belt out that day. 665 00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:15,840 I walk away from it and I don't touch it for like a week, 666 00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:19,079 and my dad takes notice and he calls me up. He's like, 667 00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:22,480 what are you doing? And he's I'm like, I don't think I can 668 00:43:22,519 --> 00:43:23,320 do this. Dad. He goes, you can definitely do it. I 669 00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:25,639 know you can. And I wanted to be like, no, you're full 670 00:43:25,679 --> 00:43:29,960 of crap. But he built his own house by himself when he retired, 671 00:43:30,199 --> 00:43:32,400 did the same thing. So he gave me some tough love and we got 672 00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:36,039 back to it. And it took me nine months because that's all I had 673 00:43:36,039 --> 00:43:38,079 on the building loan. I kept extending it and it was the hardest thing 674 00:43:38,079 --> 00:43:42,000 I ever did in my life. But now I live in that I'll die 675 00:43:42,039 --> 00:43:44,360 in that house. I call it my coffin home. Every time I walk 676 00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:47,320 in the house, I smile. I sit there to this day, sixteen 677 00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:51,039 years seventeen years old, I sit in the living room and I just stare 678 00:43:51,079 --> 00:43:52,639 at it in awe. I stare at the floor, at the ceiling, 679 00:43:52,639 --> 00:43:57,159 at the walls, like my heart and soul was in that house. Yeah, 680 00:43:57,360 --> 00:44:00,159 and it was. It was That's when I learned that like dedication, 681 00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:05,199 sacrifice, uh, perseverance, like what the end result. That was the 682 00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:07,559 first time I experienced greatness in my entire life. And that was I don't 683 00:44:07,559 --> 00:44:10,320 know, I was thirty, I was forty years old. Yeah, and 684 00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:15,079 that's the first time I experienced that that something great comes out of a great 685 00:44:15,119 --> 00:44:17,480 amount of effort. And that's what started all of this. Yeah. See, 686 00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:22,320 I always think like there there's a couple of things. As I've gotten 687 00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:28,840 older, I'm not um. I think words like discipline U scare people and 688 00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:32,760 I and so what I'll try to say is whatever matters most put it first, 689 00:44:34,159 --> 00:44:36,599 that's discipline, right, whatever matters more? Do you want to lose 690 00:44:36,639 --> 00:44:39,239 weight? You know, sitting on your ass, sit in your hands and 691 00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:42,840 shut your mount Now, I I'm just saying, but like whatever you're putting 692 00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:45,440 first, that that's what it is. And I think there are words like 693 00:44:45,519 --> 00:44:50,079 discipline or or the grind there. To me, those are ugly words. 694 00:44:50,559 --> 00:44:54,199 So what would be a better way is I get to I get to build 695 00:44:54,280 --> 00:44:59,199 my house, I get to work out today. There's somebody who can you 696 00:44:59,239 --> 00:45:02,800 know, there's somebody who wishes they could, right Tony Mazurka, which probably 697 00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:06,079 wishes he could still, you know, be here to see his kids and 698 00:45:06,119 --> 00:45:08,679 stuff. You get to and I think that that's a different way of thinking 699 00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:13,960 about it and sometimes can help you not have that moment where I got to 700 00:45:14,039 --> 00:45:16,599 help this burns down because I think everybody's been there. It's a very human 701 00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:21,039 feeling, yes, but the idea to push that and I will say that, 702 00:45:21,559 --> 00:45:23,159 you know, doing this and having done radio for a long time, 703 00:45:23,199 --> 00:45:25,760 at the end of the day, I don't have anything tangible. I can 704 00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:30,159 hand somebody a little more now with a podcast, because you can go back 705 00:45:30,199 --> 00:45:35,480 and listen right to all everything's archived but I don't have anything tangible. And 706 00:45:35,559 --> 00:45:37,559 that's why I liked working with my hands. I like doing things around my 707 00:45:37,599 --> 00:45:40,079 house and I like saying I hung that door. You know, I did 708 00:45:40,159 --> 00:45:45,920 this, I did that. There is some unbelievable satisfaction in that. There 709 00:45:45,079 --> 00:45:47,320 is because you can look at it and say, this is you know, 710 00:45:47,599 --> 00:45:51,719 It's like so for eight states for Mas, this thing what I'm doing is 711 00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:55,039 and I enjoy looking at something that I did. Yes, So through all 712 00:45:55,079 --> 00:45:59,239 these eight states, these policemen came out and asked corded me so I didn't 713 00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:02,400 hit by car, and people gave me trinkets and I found like pennies on 714 00:46:02,519 --> 00:46:06,800 the ground. I'd run by lucky pennies. So I'm making this like shadow 715 00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:10,400 box of all these patches and challenge coins and people gave me so much stuff. 716 00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:15,840 This special Olympian um Emily, she sent me one of her gold medals 717 00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:20,519 in the mail after with a note saying, like you inspired me so much 718 00:46:20,599 --> 00:46:22,480 and like you know I've earned these so hard, but I want you to 719 00:46:22,559 --> 00:46:27,119 have one out. Oh my god, yeah, think about that. I 720 00:46:27,199 --> 00:46:30,199 mean, oh my god, think about that's it broke out. I put 721 00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:34,519 that on Facebook. It broke the internet, Yeah truly did. What a 722 00:46:34,599 --> 00:46:37,920 great person she is. And I'm like, no, like you inspired me, 723 00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:40,840 Like it's the opposite, Like okay, so let's ask you that what 724 00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:45,320 does inspire you? Um? I think so nowadays I don't know like what 725 00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:49,760 like what does nowadays? But I can tell you how I started on this 726 00:46:50,039 --> 00:46:52,719 is it age thirty seven. I joined the SWAT team. Yeah, it 727 00:46:52,840 --> 00:46:54,960 aged like old, so like that's an old man in the in the world 728 00:46:55,039 --> 00:47:00,519 of swat. And at that time I was I was not tough, feeling 729 00:47:00,760 --> 00:47:05,079 forty sevens old in the world thirty sevens and old in the world of sports 730 00:47:05,159 --> 00:47:07,199 we talk and all that stuff. I mean, yeah, there's not too 731 00:47:07,199 --> 00:47:09,400 many Tom bradies right there. For I had a buddy who was on a 732 00:47:09,559 --> 00:47:13,679 swat team, Jimmy Carroll. Oh yeah, on the Sheriff's department. I 733 00:47:13,719 --> 00:47:15,719 love Jimmy Carroll. Yeah, great guy. So I get on the SWAT 734 00:47:15,719 --> 00:47:17,920 team and I started looking around. I'm like, these guys are tough, 735 00:47:19,239 --> 00:47:22,000 and these guys are not just physically tough, they're mentally tough. They're guys 736 00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:25,679 that when they get it wrong, they do it until they get it right, 737 00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:29,639 and they never give up. And I was like I want to be 738 00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:31,679 like and there's too many a name, but like Todd Baxter, Aaron Springer, 739 00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:37,000 Fabian Rivera, and it goes on and on, and I started understanding 740 00:47:37,079 --> 00:47:39,280 that term iron sharpens irony. But I was like, yes, yes, 741 00:47:39,679 --> 00:47:44,039 I was like like soft lead at the time, Like I wasn't even close 742 00:47:44,119 --> 00:47:46,280 to being iron, but I wanted to be like these guys. And I 743 00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:52,320 think that says a lot like you are what your inner circle is. You 744 00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:54,360 hang around with a bunch of naysayers and negative people, and that's the guess 745 00:47:54,400 --> 00:47:58,400 what you're gonna be. You're gonna be a naysayer and a negative person. 746 00:47:59,000 --> 00:48:02,880 And so I started the One example was Todd Baxter, who ran that swat 747 00:48:02,920 --> 00:48:06,960 team like a drill sergeant, and he made the training days so tough. 748 00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:09,440 We got done one night and he's like, hurry up, clean the guns. 749 00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:12,039 You gotta get out of here. Hurry up, clean the guns. 750 00:48:12,079 --> 00:48:14,400 You gotta get out of here. And I'm like, my buttch dragon, 751 00:48:14,639 --> 00:48:16,639 I want to go home, eat dinner, play with the kids for five 752 00:48:16,719 --> 00:48:20,559 minutes, and go to bed. And finally someone's like, hey, Todd, 753 00:48:20,719 --> 00:48:22,800 why are you in such a hurry to leave? And he whispers I 754 00:48:22,840 --> 00:48:27,039 gotta run eighteen miles tonight. I'm training for a marathon, and he did 755 00:48:27,119 --> 00:48:30,480 everything I did that day in training, so I thought that was super human. 756 00:48:30,519 --> 00:48:34,199 I said, that's how does someone go home after this and run eighteen 757 00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:37,360 miles? I want to be like that guy, like Todd Baxter, And 758 00:48:37,519 --> 00:48:40,320 that's that's who I initially drew my inspiration from. For those squat guys, 759 00:48:40,360 --> 00:48:44,599 I got a round tough guys that made me tougher. So you gotta. 760 00:48:44,920 --> 00:48:47,079 So you really gotta watch out who you who are you hang out with, 761 00:48:47,559 --> 00:48:52,440 especially your closest circle man, because you're gonna become them or you're not gonna 762 00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:57,639 You're not gonna be the shiny star amongst you know, a bunch of duds, 763 00:48:57,920 --> 00:49:00,320 right, a bunch of negative people, or a bunch of whatever. 764 00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:04,159 I always think too, because we can all say, well, circumstances in 765 00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:08,079 life gave me this. And my thinking is life's never gonna stop coming at 766 00:49:08,159 --> 00:49:13,599 you, but how you react to it, it's completely your control. What 767 00:49:13,840 --> 00:49:17,440 you can control is how you handle things. And it's a simple sometimes mind 768 00:49:17,480 --> 00:49:22,239 switch, a mind switch from I have to do this too, I get 769 00:49:22,320 --> 00:49:25,960 to do this. And there aren't times where yeah, hearing about a guy 770 00:49:27,079 --> 00:49:30,159 who just did what you did, let everybody through it, and then it's 771 00:49:30,159 --> 00:49:31,719 going to go run eighteen miles. As you're thinking I want to just go 772 00:49:31,840 --> 00:49:35,639 home and have dinner, there is something that almost in yourself you go, 773 00:49:35,760 --> 00:49:37,480 what am I? Why am I like this? And I think the human 774 00:49:37,559 --> 00:49:42,599 body is capable. I think we do things, you know. I don't 775 00:49:42,639 --> 00:49:44,920 think we need to eat as much as we're eating. I mean, I 776 00:49:44,960 --> 00:49:47,079 don't know how you saw this on running the marathons, because you would need 777 00:49:47,119 --> 00:49:51,000 a lot of fuel for twenty six miles a day, right, But I 778 00:49:51,079 --> 00:49:54,039 mean you had to lose weight. I lost from the day. So I 779 00:49:54,400 --> 00:49:58,960 spend January snowbird. Everyone's like a too young in a snowbird. I'm like, 780 00:49:59,239 --> 00:50:01,559 no, screw, I'm too old to be cold. So I was 781 00:50:01,599 --> 00:50:06,960 like, I spent January and February and Florida. Well, I'm not a 782 00:50:07,039 --> 00:50:09,599 surfer, but I surf and train, starting to train for this run. 783 00:50:09,920 --> 00:50:14,440 Then I left their March first, I weighed one hundred and eighty one pounds 784 00:50:14,719 --> 00:50:17,199 and on March firsts when I started putting it in serious training miles. I 785 00:50:17,280 --> 00:50:22,079 came home from eight states from as at one sixty four, So seventeen pounds 786 00:50:22,199 --> 00:50:23,639 and I don't have seventeen pounds to lose, ye, honestly, like my 787 00:50:23,719 --> 00:50:28,320 clothes don't fit. I'm hungry all the time now. But yeah, seventeen 788 00:50:28,360 --> 00:50:31,039 pounds. What did you eat right after? So it all wraps up, 789 00:50:31,199 --> 00:50:35,360 it's all done, and maybe I don't know if your appetite doesn't really come 790 00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:37,000 back for a day or two. But what what was the biggest? So 791 00:50:37,079 --> 00:50:40,360 we had the ceremony on June eleventh at the Halls of Justice, the courtyard 792 00:50:40,480 --> 00:50:45,239 and Salvator is the great people there. They call up Ellen from Fleet Feet. 793 00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:46,440 They're like, we want to donate the Pizzas he goes, I don't 794 00:50:46,440 --> 00:50:50,039 think you understand there's gonna be a thousand people. They're like, well, 795 00:50:50,119 --> 00:50:52,039 I guess we just have to make a lot more pizza. I ate a 796 00:50:52,039 --> 00:50:58,119 whole large pizza before I left that courtyard. Everyone cleared out. I told 797 00:50:58,119 --> 00:51:00,239 my girlfriends all this pizza left over. Actually, I'm like, go grab 798 00:51:00,360 --> 00:51:05,960 me a cheese and pepperoni pizza. So everyone's left. There's like six of 799 00:51:06,039 --> 00:51:07,760 us there. I didn't want to leave, Like I had this emotional attachment 800 00:51:07,800 --> 00:51:09,880 to the ceremony. At the end, and I'm like, I'm not ready 801 00:51:09,880 --> 00:51:12,960 to leave. Everyone like go your own way. And I sat there eight 802 00:51:12,960 --> 00:51:16,000 a whole large pizza, like the whole thing, the whole thing, and 803 00:51:16,039 --> 00:51:19,960 I'm still hungry. I still who made the pizza again? Oh salvatory? 804 00:51:20,119 --> 00:51:22,559 Yeah, like how how incredible? Man? And uh yeah, so I 805 00:51:22,719 --> 00:51:25,760 and I'm I go to bed hungry. Now I wake up hungry. I'm 806 00:51:25,840 --> 00:51:30,119 I'm constantly hungry trying to get this weight back on. Yeah, are you 807 00:51:30,320 --> 00:51:31,000 do you want to get the weight back on? Or do you like the 808 00:51:31,039 --> 00:51:34,519 way? You know? I like being like one eighty is like a really 809 00:51:34,559 --> 00:51:37,679 good weight, and I wanted to go into this at one eighty knowing I'm 810 00:51:37,719 --> 00:51:39,960 going to give a bunch back, but I went in like at one seventy 811 00:51:40,400 --> 00:51:45,480 two. Wish yeah yeah, wow Yeah. I like having like some semblance 812 00:51:45,519 --> 00:51:49,440 of muscles, you know, like I hear who taught you the most along 813 00:51:49,519 --> 00:51:54,119 the way? Um, do you think of like anybody who taught yours or 814 00:51:54,159 --> 00:51:58,800 any anything. I mean, it just sounds like a lot of this isself. 815 00:51:59,119 --> 00:52:00,559 It is. But there was like so one of my sponsors, which 816 00:52:00,639 --> 00:52:04,360 was like everyone's like, I don't understand the sponsor. His name is Greg 817 00:52:04,440 --> 00:52:07,440 Walsh. He's the owner of it is called woof Brigade jim Um. It's 818 00:52:07,480 --> 00:52:10,199 in the city here, And this guy's the best, one of the best 819 00:52:10,199 --> 00:52:14,559 strength and condition he coaches in the entire world. And I don't say that 820 00:52:14,679 --> 00:52:19,480 like like you know, haphazardly. He's just a great, great strength and 821 00:52:19,519 --> 00:52:22,440 condition he coach. And what they do with that Jim is they build superhumans. 822 00:52:22,840 --> 00:52:24,599 They build people, the strongest people you've ever seen, and not people 823 00:52:24,639 --> 00:52:29,039 that are talented from the start. They take people like average people like us 824 00:52:29,360 --> 00:52:31,039 and turn them into superhumans. It's it's the weirdest thing I've ever seen. 825 00:52:31,840 --> 00:52:36,760 And that guy has had like a lot of knocks in his life, Like 826 00:52:36,840 --> 00:52:39,079 you know, we're associated with some people then they cut strings and he should 827 00:52:39,079 --> 00:52:45,039 be a bazillionaire, but he's not because he has he's he stands by his 828 00:52:45,159 --> 00:52:47,480 conviction. So like if one of his sponsors or people gets squirrely, then 829 00:52:47,519 --> 00:52:52,559 he just cuts him and he refuses to bend a nia anyone. He's very 830 00:52:52,000 --> 00:52:57,920 But he was a guy who like sees like he would I would put something 831 00:52:57,960 --> 00:53:00,800 on Instagram, then he would he would comment on it, and uh, 832 00:53:01,519 --> 00:53:06,639 like that was a guy Drew a lot of strength from because of his insight 833 00:53:06,760 --> 00:53:10,920 into life itself and how he's how he's very not just disciplined, but um, 834 00:53:13,519 --> 00:53:15,159 like I said, he refuses, he refuses to bend his principles. 835 00:53:15,519 --> 00:53:17,519 You know, He's like, I don't care about money. I'll go I'll 836 00:53:17,519 --> 00:53:22,199 go live in a shoe box or in a in a refrigerator box. But 837 00:53:22,320 --> 00:53:27,840 I'm not gonna I'm not gonna bend for like this this culture that we live 838 00:53:27,920 --> 00:53:30,440 in now, not going to And so that was a guy really took a 839 00:53:30,519 --> 00:53:34,599 lot of like strength from. And when you have the superhumans, they're like 840 00:53:34,639 --> 00:53:37,960 the Avengers right this, Jim, and they're in your corner. Like, 841 00:53:37,000 --> 00:53:39,679 how do you fail when you have all these super humans behind you? Yeah? 842 00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:44,320 I find the whole thing. And I'm sure you've heard of this a 843 00:53:44,400 --> 00:53:49,760 lot. Pretty incredible. But I love the humbleness of it of you. 844 00:53:50,800 --> 00:53:54,360 I'm not a great athlete, but you know it's inspiring that you teach. 845 00:53:54,480 --> 00:54:00,119 I think you're teaching people. You're retired, yes, from RPD. What 846 00:54:00,440 --> 00:54:02,679 do you do during the day, because I know you're not sitting around. 847 00:54:02,800 --> 00:54:07,719 I mean, yeah, so I've only worked like five days since I retired, 848 00:54:07,760 --> 00:54:10,840 and I helped a buddy. He owns up a scoreboard company and he 849 00:54:10,920 --> 00:54:14,840 puts up scoreboards. Okay, so he's putting a scoreboard up at Brockport and 850 00:54:14,880 --> 00:54:17,800 because COVID, like you know, always people quit and uh so he's like, 851 00:54:17,840 --> 00:54:20,840 wht to help me put a scoreboard up. I'm like yeah, So, 852 00:54:21,119 --> 00:54:22,719 next thing I know, I'm hanging off these sky lifts and I'm I'm 853 00:54:22,719 --> 00:54:25,199 afraid of heights man, that's one of my fears. And I'm like thirty 854 00:54:25,199 --> 00:54:28,920 feet on this little cage like leaning over and I'm like, oh gosh, 855 00:54:29,239 --> 00:54:30,159 and he's like, I need you for a couple of days. Well ended 856 00:54:30,199 --> 00:54:32,920 up being like fourteen hour days for like six days in a row. But 857 00:54:34,599 --> 00:54:37,480 again we got done. I'm like, I helped do this. I put 858 00:54:37,519 --> 00:54:43,400 this giant, yes, cool assome scoreboard up that's got like color picture on 859 00:54:43,519 --> 00:54:46,440 it. Yeah. So but I stay busy, like I'm always kind of 860 00:54:46,480 --> 00:54:50,280 planning the next thing. You know. Everyone's like Watson act and sometimes I 861 00:54:50,360 --> 00:54:52,840 have an answer. But so I have fifty seven acres that I live on. 862 00:54:53,320 --> 00:54:57,239 I love to hunt, like bow hunting is my passion in life. 863 00:54:57,920 --> 00:55:02,679 It beats everything else. So m September October November, I spent about eight 864 00:55:02,719 --> 00:55:06,320 hours a day in a tree stand, like four hours in the morning, 865 00:55:06,400 --> 00:55:08,760 four hours at night. In the summertime, I'm always planting food for the 866 00:55:08,840 --> 00:55:14,440 deer and cutting trails and mowing stuff. My girlfriend lives in So I live 867 00:55:14,480 --> 00:55:16,960 in Orleans County in the middle of nowhere's zero neighbors. I love it the 868 00:55:17,039 --> 00:55:21,320 piece and quiet. My girlfriend lives in Webster, So I'm her pool boy, 869 00:55:21,559 --> 00:55:25,599 lawn boy, fixed the stuff around the houseboy, and so, like 870 00:55:25,840 --> 00:55:30,119 it's funny they say, like when you're when you retire, like you say, 871 00:55:30,159 --> 00:55:30,880 like how to ever make time for any of this? When I was 872 00:55:30,960 --> 00:55:34,840 working? And then there's always something to do. You know. I have 873 00:55:34,960 --> 00:55:38,000 Harley, I ride, I have muscle cars. Um, so I'm always 874 00:55:38,079 --> 00:55:42,599 busy, like definitely always always, always stay busy. And I never wanted 875 00:55:42,639 --> 00:55:44,840 I never wanted to work again, and I don't think I have to. 876 00:55:45,320 --> 00:55:47,679 Did you uh do you teach it all? I mean you could do this 877 00:55:47,800 --> 00:55:51,639 stuff. Do you speak publicly? Dude? Get hired to do? Yeah? 878 00:55:51,639 --> 00:55:54,039 So I do. I have had some page speaking gigs that came out 879 00:55:54,079 --> 00:55:58,039 of my book. And uh, it's just that you know the problem is, 880 00:55:58,360 --> 00:56:01,480 I guess getting like the the word out there because you know, maybe 881 00:56:01,519 --> 00:56:05,760 in Rochester people know what I've done, but like getting out globally, so 882 00:56:06,119 --> 00:56:09,280 you know, unless you get on like a Joe Rogan podcast Hester, you 883 00:56:09,360 --> 00:56:13,000 know, like like you look at David Goggins, Yeah, like you know, 884 00:56:13,199 --> 00:56:15,199 he just that guy just blew up and you know, to get at 885 00:56:15,280 --> 00:56:17,400 that level, And I don't know if I want to get I don't know 886 00:56:17,480 --> 00:56:22,079 if I'm that person like the like, I can't be that person that gets 887 00:56:22,119 --> 00:56:27,360 on Instagram and starts yelling, oh you motherfucker got every day you got a 888 00:56:27,480 --> 00:56:30,360 turn, you know like that that Like I almost feel like that's not even 889 00:56:30,440 --> 00:56:35,280 an effective thing anymore. I think people are they don't want to hear that. 890 00:56:35,400 --> 00:56:39,239 But I think that somebody who just quietly does what they do is more 891 00:56:39,320 --> 00:56:45,400 inspiring than the person that doesn't. I love when you meet somebody and they've 892 00:56:45,440 --> 00:56:47,880 done something like this and I don't know it, and it's like peeling backing 893 00:56:47,960 --> 00:56:51,920 onion and you go, wow, that is so cool because it's not the 894 00:56:52,119 --> 00:56:55,639 first thing that you know, I may be introduced is or some stranger to 895 00:56:55,719 --> 00:57:00,360 you, Hey, this guy just ran fifty marathons, but then find out 896 00:57:00,400 --> 00:57:02,760 he swam across Lake Ontario and he ran from and all these things, and 897 00:57:02,920 --> 00:57:07,079 that to me, I think I find that kind of a cooler thing. 898 00:57:07,199 --> 00:57:10,239 It's like, you know, people who donate big money but keep their write 899 00:57:10,239 --> 00:57:14,920 their name out of it, right, they do great things for humanity, 900 00:57:15,039 --> 00:57:16,480 but we don't know. I like that a little bit better than the other. 901 00:57:17,000 --> 00:57:21,360 The book Gray Man. Where does the title come from? So I've 902 00:57:21,440 --> 00:57:25,079 always so I look at it like this, and I think most people would 903 00:57:25,079 --> 00:57:29,079 agree when I get done. So, if you took a bell curve of 904 00:57:30,119 --> 00:57:32,679 people in general, say about where you work, or say a sports team, 905 00:57:34,480 --> 00:57:37,800 that if there was a bell curve, it's a top ten percent would 906 00:57:37,800 --> 00:57:39,239 be the people that are really good at what they do. Yeah, like 907 00:57:39,360 --> 00:57:44,079 wherever you work, they're the hustlers. They get the job done and they 908 00:57:44,159 --> 00:57:45,880 stand out. And then at the bottom of the bell curve, on the 909 00:57:46,440 --> 00:57:50,000 left side of it are the ten percent of the people that are horrible at 910 00:57:50,039 --> 00:57:52,559 what they do, and they stand out too, right because they're like, 911 00:57:52,599 --> 00:57:54,280 oh gosh, they don't do anything all day. They're horrible. So the 912 00:57:54,360 --> 00:57:59,559 top ten in the bottom ten are the shiny objects. For exactly different reasons. 913 00:58:00,400 --> 00:58:02,079 The eighty percent in the middle. Those are the guys that the boss 914 00:58:02,119 --> 00:58:06,159 doesn't even know their names because they all blend together. They're shades of gray. 915 00:58:06,400 --> 00:58:09,159 Yeah. So I'm like, I was that guy. My entire life 916 00:58:09,320 --> 00:58:15,039 was the gray man. And so it was always like no stimulus. And 917 00:58:15,119 --> 00:58:16,920 where I first learned that, where I got the term was I taught at 918 00:58:16,920 --> 00:58:21,880 the Police Academy Physical Fitness that ran the program for five years. And what 919 00:58:21,960 --> 00:58:24,639 I learned was when I first started teaching, if there was forty I call 920 00:58:24,760 --> 00:58:29,559 them kids recruits in the police Academy, I could tell you the top four 921 00:58:29,840 --> 00:58:31,920 and within a week I'd be like, that's Joe Smith, Bill Smith, 922 00:58:32,320 --> 00:58:37,199 you know, Tina whatever. I could tell you the top four fastest and 923 00:58:37,480 --> 00:58:42,199 most fit people. I tell you the bottom four worst unfit people by name. 924 00:58:42,880 --> 00:58:45,360 But those thirty two in the middle, I didn't even know their names 925 00:58:45,440 --> 00:58:47,639 until halfway through. And I'm like, I'm not giving them any attention. 926 00:58:47,719 --> 00:58:52,599 I'm praising the really good people, I'm correcting the really bad people, but 927 00:58:52,760 --> 00:58:55,679 I'm showing no mind to those thirty two in the middle. And that's how 928 00:58:57,119 --> 00:59:00,880 that's how us great people go through life man like. But we're the bulk 929 00:59:00,920 --> 00:59:04,519 of the workforce. Right, like there's only so many Michael Jordan's on a 930 00:59:04,599 --> 00:59:07,800 team. Yes, Michael Jordan doesn't win NBA championships. It's the supporting cast 931 00:59:08,159 --> 00:59:12,440 were good people. So that's where the gray Man came from. That my 932 00:59:12,599 --> 00:59:15,440 whole life, I was the gray Man. Yeah. So I mean another 933 00:59:15,559 --> 00:59:19,400 thing. It had to be so satisfying to write the book. It was 934 00:59:19,440 --> 00:59:23,039 because I would teach classes. I would teach this the physical training to be 935 00:59:23,159 --> 00:59:27,159 a trainer, like training a trainer, and I would tell about my journey 936 00:59:27,199 --> 00:59:30,199 through life about you know how I they say you play the hand you're dealt. 937 00:59:30,239 --> 00:59:32,679 I folded my hand right because I smoked two packs a day. And 938 00:59:32,719 --> 00:59:37,960 I was like, I'm never gonna be that guy. And people were like, 939 00:59:37,000 --> 00:59:39,280 oh my gosh, Like what a great story. You should should write 940 00:59:39,280 --> 00:59:44,880 a book. Or I journal some of my races on Facebook or Instagram. 941 00:59:44,880 --> 00:59:45,400 I'm like, oh my god, you should write a book. And then 942 00:59:45,880 --> 00:59:49,760 I started a seven years ago when I was still working there, eight years 943 00:59:49,800 --> 00:59:53,119 ago, and I was home to two winters ago, and I'm going through 944 00:59:53,199 --> 00:59:55,719 my thumb drives and I see it and I'm like, oh my gosh, 945 00:59:55,760 --> 00:59:59,199 this is horrible. Like I had a couple of paragraphs, a couple of 946 00:59:59,280 --> 01:00:01,360 chapters. I'm like, this really sucks, but I'm like, let's let's 947 01:00:01,440 --> 01:00:05,639 go back at it again. Now you have the time I wrote that book, 948 01:00:05,719 --> 01:00:08,480 like in two months, sitting in my lazy boy recliner, recalling like 949 01:00:08,679 --> 01:00:12,800 my life history. And it was very cathartic. Sure, it was so 950 01:00:13,039 --> 01:00:16,199 catharitic to go back and think about where I started and where I'm at now, 951 01:00:16,320 --> 01:00:21,159 and where my faults were and where my faults are now. It was 952 01:00:21,199 --> 01:00:24,000 incredible. What have you learned about living through all this? I think that 953 01:00:24,559 --> 01:00:28,719 you know, well, Tomorrow's promised to no One. And Tony Mazurka, 954 01:00:28,760 --> 01:00:30,639 which is an example of that. Darryl Pearson is an example of that. 955 01:00:31,880 --> 01:00:37,159 Tommy Valentine like, so we keep putting things off, man, We procrastinator 956 01:00:37,280 --> 01:00:43,760 is the killer of hopes and dreams and goals and your personal greatness. So 957 01:00:43,960 --> 01:00:46,440 I try never to put anything off. And at times I do procrastinate about 958 01:00:46,559 --> 01:00:51,119 certain things, certain things that make you uncomfortable. Right, And we talk 959 01:00:51,159 --> 01:00:54,760 about discipline, which you know, discipline is doing the things you don't want 960 01:00:54,800 --> 01:00:58,400 to do when you don't feel like doing. The man, well, that's 961 01:00:58,400 --> 01:01:01,360 true too, yes, And I try to I really try to stop procrastinating, 962 01:01:01,599 --> 01:01:05,960 like because I think it's it's just it's a killer of everything. And 963 01:01:06,559 --> 01:01:09,880 I the thing with eight States for MAZ is when Daryl Pearson died, I 964 01:01:09,960 --> 01:01:14,000 wanted to do something for Darryl. Yeah, and I waited too long. 965 01:01:14,679 --> 01:01:16,920 In the family at that time, there is there is a million fundraisers, 966 01:01:17,199 --> 01:01:21,679 and the family went to every single one. So you think about it for 967 01:01:21,960 --> 01:01:24,679 years they went and you got to peel that scab off every time and relive 968 01:01:24,760 --> 01:01:28,360 it every time. And I when I got around to doing it, They're 969 01:01:28,360 --> 01:01:30,519 like, thanks, but no thanks. So I'm like, I'm not procrastinating 970 01:01:30,639 --> 01:01:35,599 for Tony. Yeah, what advice would you give? Like, I mean, 971 01:01:35,679 --> 01:01:37,360 I'm even thinking of like your sons and stuff, But to anybody who 972 01:01:38,199 --> 01:01:43,239 is living there, you're you're listening to this. You know, you talk 973 01:01:43,280 --> 01:01:45,440 about the gym that makes superhumans, and that guy's inspiring to you, and 974 01:01:45,599 --> 01:01:51,119 you certainly have done superhuman feats. I would put you in that superhuman category. 975 01:01:51,599 --> 01:01:53,840 But what would your advice to somebody making? I think it is whatever 976 01:01:53,920 --> 01:01:59,519 you're gonna do, whatever you're whatever you're trying to seek out. And again, 977 01:02:00,239 --> 01:02:01,679 for me, it's not just athletics. Maybe you want to get a 978 01:02:01,719 --> 01:02:05,360 promotion at work, maybe you want to start your own business, maybe you 979 01:02:05,400 --> 01:02:07,599 have this giant project at home. You got to first figure out your why, 980 01:02:08,119 --> 01:02:12,239 like truly, what is your why? If the why is not for 981 01:02:12,360 --> 01:02:15,079 you, it's probably not a good why. If you're like, well, 982 01:02:15,360 --> 01:02:17,639 I want to I want to get in shape so my wife thinks I'm more 983 01:02:17,719 --> 01:02:22,079 sexy, that's probably not a good why. You're not doing it for yourself, 984 01:02:22,199 --> 01:02:23,559 man, You're doing it for her. And you can't live for other 985 01:02:23,599 --> 01:02:28,360 people. No, your why has to be uniquely you. And then when 986 01:02:28,400 --> 01:02:31,440 you figure that out, if you write that down, like then you got 987 01:02:31,519 --> 01:02:36,000 like of it done, man, because if why is strong enough, you're 988 01:02:36,000 --> 01:02:38,280 gonna you're gonna figure out how to get to there, like your goal. 989 01:02:38,400 --> 01:02:43,239 It's a very interesting thing because I think again, and it comes you know, 990 01:02:44,599 --> 01:02:46,239 with life comes wisdom. Right. The longer you live right, the 991 01:02:46,280 --> 01:02:52,760 wiser you can become. H But I always think you can't live for somebody 992 01:02:52,840 --> 01:02:58,800 when you are satisfaction, When your personal satisfaction comes from somebody else there and 993 01:03:00,280 --> 01:03:01,639 this is gonna sound horrible, but they let you down every time, and 994 01:03:01,719 --> 01:03:06,199 the only reason and only because they can't. That's not their job. You 995 01:03:06,400 --> 01:03:09,519 have to find that internal happiness. And if it's running eight states, that 996 01:03:09,599 --> 01:03:13,519 makes you happy and you've got the people around to support it and you do. 997 01:03:13,599 --> 01:03:15,559 It's great if it's swimming across like, but that all comes from you, 998 01:03:15,719 --> 01:03:22,480 and then then nobody can take that away at all. And and it's 999 01:03:22,519 --> 01:03:25,400 always something that you have and have done. I think it's an incredible way 1000 01:03:25,440 --> 01:03:30,800 to live and you know, really inspiring. That's like, that's a hundred 1001 01:03:30,800 --> 01:03:32,480 percent like my house. No one can ever take that away from it. 1002 01:03:32,639 --> 01:03:37,039 Man, I've built that thing, You've built that Sweat and Tears book, 1003 01:03:37,039 --> 01:03:38,360 You've swam across the lake. You I mean, do you realize all the 1004 01:03:38,440 --> 01:03:43,760 things you like? Like because I know how Like I know that because I 1005 01:03:43,880 --> 01:03:47,000 could do this, that the other eighty percent of the people out there they 1006 01:03:47,079 --> 01:03:51,079 can do it, and they and they because they don't believe they can. 1007 01:03:51,360 --> 01:03:57,960 And well, we're we're a society of instant gratification. Like so now you 1008 01:03:58,039 --> 01:04:00,719 can look at something online and like I want that right now, and you 1009 01:04:00,800 --> 01:04:02,880 don't have to even go get it. You could put it in your cart 1010 01:04:02,920 --> 01:04:05,440 and instant car come to deliver that shit to your house. Or Amazon will 1011 01:04:05,480 --> 01:04:08,920 come the next day. You got it. But when it comes to like 1012 01:04:09,320 --> 01:04:15,239 really meanful goals, you it requires sacrifice and determination and grit and stick to 1013 01:04:15,360 --> 01:04:18,760 it and failure, like failure is a part of it. And if your 1014 01:04:18,800 --> 01:04:23,280 goals are lofty enough, you're gonna fail somewhere along the way. And how 1015 01:04:23,360 --> 01:04:26,320 you respond to that. Fails are great teachers. They suck when it happens. 1016 01:04:26,400 --> 01:04:28,599 It's a great teacher, though, Yeah, who loves to fail? 1017 01:04:28,760 --> 01:04:31,960 Nobody because it's getting kicked in the balls and failing you're like, gosh, 1018 01:04:32,239 --> 01:04:35,400 but how you regroup there? And we just have to get away from this 1019 01:04:35,639 --> 01:04:42,719 this instance instant gratification that we're in now where people there's people, there's these 1020 01:04:43,119 --> 01:04:44,800 services. They're like, well, you don't have to work out. We're 1021 01:04:44,800 --> 01:04:47,199 gonna hook you up to some pros and we're gonna stimulate your muscles and it's 1022 01:04:47,199 --> 01:04:50,599 just like lifting. Come on, Pete, come on, or you can 1023 01:04:50,679 --> 01:04:55,159 go to some medical center and we're just gonna suck all the fat out of 1024 01:04:55,199 --> 01:04:57,800 your gut and we're gonna put us somewhere else in your butt. So you 1025 01:04:57,880 --> 01:05:01,519 got Kim Kardashian button, it's like, you know, so we're asking all 1026 01:05:01,559 --> 01:05:05,480 this hard work and all and it's just at each day if you're just a 1027 01:05:05,599 --> 01:05:11,440 little bit better and a little you stick to it and it becomes this habit 1028 01:05:11,480 --> 01:05:15,119 after four weeks, six weeks, right, And I do think that there's 1029 01:05:15,360 --> 01:05:17,119 a lot to be said for that. But then it comes back to like 1030 01:05:17,320 --> 01:05:23,280 the personal satisfaction of and then you're better for everybody else. You know, 1031 01:05:23,360 --> 01:05:27,840 when you stop trying to figure out that I have to live. This person 1032 01:05:28,000 --> 01:05:31,000 makes me happy, Well, I'm happy. I like when they're around, 1033 01:05:31,320 --> 01:05:33,960 but they don't make you understand what I'm saying. And it's not an easy 1034 01:05:34,079 --> 01:05:39,679 thing to do, but that to me, the job of living is to 1035 01:05:40,079 --> 01:05:44,719 line up with whatever is happening. Life has lived in your head. And 1036 01:05:44,840 --> 01:05:46,400 my great example of that is if you and I went to the same party, 1037 01:05:46,639 --> 01:05:48,480 I may walk out and go, God, that sucked, and you 1038 01:05:48,519 --> 01:05:50,119 could come out of there going, man, what a party. Man, 1039 01:05:50,199 --> 01:05:54,280 it was great. I saw everybody I love and I got the hound I'm 1040 01:05:54,320 --> 01:05:57,239 going. You know, you know what I'm saying. It's life is lived 1041 01:05:57,320 --> 01:06:00,639 in our head and everything's happening all at once all around the world. But 1042 01:06:01,079 --> 01:06:06,159 you get to slow it down and use your head and it's all there. 1043 01:06:06,400 --> 01:06:11,559 You can start each day. There are times while I will wake up and 1044 01:06:12,400 --> 01:06:15,440 I start to think in my head, but I got this, uh, 1045 01:06:15,840 --> 01:06:18,280 And I'll go hang on a second, and I'll think, God, this 1046 01:06:18,440 --> 01:06:23,440 bed is so soft, it feels so good. Oh God, it's nice. 1047 01:06:23,880 --> 01:06:26,440 Man. I get to get up, and my whole mind changes. 1048 01:06:26,840 --> 01:06:29,639 My whole mind changes, and then I do a bunch of weird shits, 1049 01:06:30,239 --> 01:06:32,440 cold shower, I do this weird breathing thing, I do a little you 1050 01:06:32,480 --> 01:06:36,719 know, but that that's me and that makes me feel right, that that 1051 01:06:36,880 --> 01:06:41,079 gets me right and gets me back where I should be. It's you hit 1052 01:06:41,159 --> 01:06:43,280 it on the head. And I say this all the time. Your perception 1053 01:06:43,440 --> 01:06:47,239 is your reality. Perception may be totally different, yes, but it doesn't 1054 01:06:47,320 --> 01:06:49,679 matter, right, It doesn't even matter if you're wrong or you're right. 1055 01:06:49,920 --> 01:06:55,199 Your perception is your reality. Yes, And I agree with that one hundred 1056 01:06:55,239 --> 01:06:58,239 and ten percent. Yeah, And I think is. And if you can't 1057 01:06:58,280 --> 01:07:01,280 be happy with yourself, in your own skin and by yourself, then I 1058 01:07:01,360 --> 01:07:05,159 think you'd probably never be happy with anyone else. So people are like I 1059 01:07:05,519 --> 01:07:09,320 went and hunted in Colorado by myself. I lived in the mountains for like 1060 01:07:09,360 --> 01:07:12,480 twelve days in a little tent by myself. Wow, I never saw it 1061 01:07:12,840 --> 01:07:17,440 in Colorado Steamboat Springs. Yeah, and so no elk were harmed during this, 1062 01:07:17,639 --> 01:07:21,440 of course, but you know, I climb these giant mountains, didn't 1063 01:07:21,519 --> 01:07:25,000 hardly see anyone, And I was like, how can you go, like, 1064 01:07:25,159 --> 01:07:27,559 you know, twelve days without talking to anyone. I'm like, it's 1065 01:07:27,800 --> 01:07:30,199 I love being by myself. I also love being around my sons and my 1066 01:07:30,280 --> 01:07:33,920 girlfriends and my friends, but very comfortable with the silence. Like I'm very 1067 01:07:33,960 --> 01:07:38,199 comfortable in my own brain. Or you know, when I go out and 1068 01:07:38,280 --> 01:07:41,800 run X amount of miles or do a marathon a day, like I think 1069 01:07:41,840 --> 01:07:44,880 you have to be comfortable with yourself before you probably can be comfortable with other 1070 01:07:44,960 --> 01:07:46,440 people. Well, every time you keep talking, I got I get one 1071 01:07:46,519 --> 01:07:50,519 more question, and I'll will kind of end it here. I always found 1072 01:07:50,599 --> 01:07:54,880 with running, some of my best ideas would come to me. Did you 1073 01:07:55,000 --> 01:07:59,880 find that best ideas or best ways to like resolve things? So you're sure 1074 01:08:00,119 --> 01:08:02,400 like yeah, yeah, So you're like you have a just like dilemma should 1075 01:08:02,440 --> 01:08:04,960 I do this or should I do that? And then you get done running 1076 01:08:04,960 --> 01:08:08,920 You're like, man, this is what I'm gonna do because you can really 1077 01:08:09,320 --> 01:08:12,679 do a deep dive into it by yourself. There's some real clarity that comes 1078 01:08:12,719 --> 01:08:15,679 out of that super clarity. Yeah, there, yes, one hundred percent 1079 01:08:15,840 --> 01:08:16,720 right. And I think that, you know, I always think, you 1080 01:08:16,800 --> 01:08:19,960 know. The big thing that you'll hear it seems very popular today is I 1081 01:08:20,039 --> 01:08:23,159 got add I got a d D. If you have a d D, 1082 01:08:23,319 --> 01:08:28,079 exercise you know, out of running is maybe one of the best things you 1083 01:08:28,119 --> 01:08:30,840 can possibly do. For that. They would have medicated me if I what 1084 01:08:30,039 --> 01:08:33,239 happens now as me as a kid they would have met have ADHD, they 1085 01:08:33,239 --> 01:08:35,199 would they would have medicated the hell out of me. I would have been 1086 01:08:35,239 --> 01:08:40,560 a riddling kid or whatever else they're giving. And um, yeah, And 1087 01:08:41,079 --> 01:08:44,800 like I said, I think doing is you know, doing something helps helps 1088 01:08:44,840 --> 01:08:47,760 your mind and also helps you grow. Like who's ever said, who's ever 1089 01:08:47,840 --> 01:08:50,680 sat on a couch? Been watched? And I binge watched, but like, 1090 01:08:50,960 --> 01:08:55,039 how much how much satisfactions are just laying around in the couch for four 1091 01:08:55,079 --> 01:08:59,000 hours? I watched when Sons of Anarchy came out, I watched for like 1092 01:08:59,119 --> 01:09:01,760 almost an entire day once and I went I was so depressed, exactly so 1093 01:09:01,920 --> 01:09:04,760 depressed. You didn't. I felt like I didn't do anything. I was 1094 01:09:04,800 --> 01:09:08,239 like, oh my god, you know, you got one life and this 1095 01:09:08,359 --> 01:09:10,960 is what you did. So somebody didn't come after you. You're like, 1096 01:09:10,960 --> 01:09:12,840 what did you do the other day? You're like, uh, sat out 1097 01:09:12,840 --> 01:09:15,680 of college watching Nestlik for four hours? Yeah, but you sure said, 1098 01:09:15,920 --> 01:09:17,000 man, I went out. I ran an hour. Man. It was 1099 01:09:17,239 --> 01:09:20,840 so awesome, man, and I had a better time than the time than 1100 01:09:20,920 --> 01:09:24,439 you know. I beat my other time and I'm training for this race. 1101 01:09:24,880 --> 01:09:28,079 Like that's where the satisfactions from. We said it right at the beginning. 1102 01:09:28,199 --> 01:09:30,039 Doing us, at doing yeah, doing us. It just makes you feel 1103 01:09:30,079 --> 01:09:33,359 better actually do that kind of stuff. It has been a pleasure to man, 1104 01:09:33,840 --> 01:09:36,920 really really, I can't wait to read the book Gray Man, An 1105 01:09:36,920 --> 01:09:41,159 Average Man's Journey to Personal Greatness. Where can we get it online? Amazon? 1106 01:09:41,319 --> 01:09:45,359 Amazon? Go to Amazon and get that book. I think everybody will 1107 01:09:45,479 --> 01:09:49,520 enjoy that. For Brent, I should say, Sergeant Brett sober Oscar, 1108 01:09:50,079 --> 01:09:55,840 who has done superhuman things. I'm Bill Moran. 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