More scuttle butt as far as movies being made or not being made. The
Ray movie. So this week there was two rumors that came out, one
last week and then one this week. And then there's rumors to rebot rebroot,
reboot rebuttal those yeah, reb butt, there we go the butt almost
fear the butt. One rumor was and these are all ce plus tier And
then the people that push it back, I'd say it's higher. No,
I'd say they were ce tier the person that pushes like a C plus maybe
B. And then Lucasfilm made a statement. So here's the trajectory. Seatier
rumor Steven Knight hasn't even handed in a script yet. They're still working on
another draft, but that's not there. That's why Ray Movie was supposed to
film first, no longer happening. Another Seatier rumor backs that up, but
goes further and saying Steve Knight's dropped out and the film's gonna be delayed and
definitely. And then Jamaine, you say Lucray or I don't know how you
say his name. He puts out some report saying, hey, you know,
and I guess it was a combined thing, right, I guess it
was. It was a combined thing of still like still being written. I
guess we had lost on those ones of what lucasfilm was. But he put
out. Jermaine put out that he had heard that seam Night's still working on
a draft and made the date, and I think Dani Rickman put out something
pretty similar at least that the draft is still being worked on. So it's
a scuttle butt of is the movie being delayed? Now technically what you have
to do, And this is what Katie from Star Wars Alliance was pointing out.
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feedback for us and them, So technically you would. I would say that
Jermaine and Rickman definitely have more sources than the other ones. And even this
one saying Germaine saying a source from lucasfilm right, which I guess a lot
of the sources always are, but this is him contantly saying, oh,
I know some of Luke's films telling me this, or they're relaying this message
to me or through me. So it's so tough with Star Wars because Katie
was pointing this out, and even in my mind when the tears are there,
the tears favor the news of they're working on it and don't worry about
it, it's coming. The problem is the past, in the past five
years, yeah, five years since we got Force Awakens of the untrustworthiness of
the ms or sorry, the Star Wars universe. The trustworthy MCU happened last
year and a half. We can't trust them right now. Let's see if
they're gonna want us back here all the time. I'm not saying anything that
has to be great, but let's get out of the like this is the
worst, the worst MCU stuff. You know, with Star Wars, they
have a very bad track record of announcing things way in advance, and we've
done this wriggling world right, So that's where it's tough. Where I agree
with Katie and I see all our points. On other points too. Oh
look at these other Scoopers are much bigger. They're pointed out like the ray
films. Definitely happening maybe uh where I am and I understand the process right
Where Damon Lindoff was working on this movie. The rumor was that he was
working on a movie that was a eighty year old ray that was played by
like a Hellmere and type train is to New Jedis and there's you know,
it is scuttle but like he says, nothing was ever confirmed, but there's
some skull but that Hey, he wrote the first draft and was happy to
go away, and there's some that now. He was kind of booted from
the project. They didn't like his script. He didn't like that they picked
a director without him, because that was the reports, right, it was
Linda Loff is going to spearhead a Star Wars movie, which meant he'll write.
But also what he did with Watchmore, he brought in a bunch of
voices, different directors. He was maybe the captain of the ship, but
he was the most important person of it. He got the ship going and
then gave the reins to other people or just like multiple captains, right,
that's true. I don't know why he's in a ship pirate analogy, but
I am. But that's what it's sounding. He was gonna do where he's
gonna direct this, and he could bring other people on, but he was
gonna spearhead it. And there's some people that say, yeah, that was
the goal, and then they kind of took the rains from him. He
leaves, Steven Knight comes on. For me, I know when people go,
oh, well, Tollywood and someone writes the script and then they get
notes and they redrafted, and then it goes through the process and maybe they
bring on another writer. I get it. I understand. You don't need
to spell it out. It's like people are acting like this is regular film
stuff. It's not it. This is Star Wars that has screwed this up
multiple multiple times. And for me, what I've said is other studios can
do this, and I don't even want to see this because like MSU has
their issues and luckily no one's brought this up to me. I think I've
seen it like once we'll spring all my timeline, but the idea of Pe'll
go, oh well, Marvel tho this all the time. They rewrite and
sometimes rain on set. Yes, and of course yes they're having some issues
last year and even this year to me with Echo, and we feel that
they're having some issues with the writing, but their movies were still being made
and shows were still being made, and for many years they were successful at
that. Star Wars to me, doesn't get the benefit of the doubt with
that. They don't get to be like, oh well, this is just
like everything else in Hollywood. No, they've screwed up so many times where
it's like, no, this is just another scroup by them. For me,
it doesn't like it doesn't matter. I know the process of like,
oh, rewrites happen and notes happened. I get it, But no,
there shouldn't be any rewrites, any notes, and we know about it.
I'm fine if someone says, hey, I've heard a rumor they're work on
a Ray movie, Daisy Ridley's attached. It's one Lindeloff was working on.
He left Steve Knight and maybe they want to control They're never get it out
there. I got a Poppet Service celebration, whatever it means. Maybe I
don't care. And at the end of the day, guess with the general
audience, it doesn't Americans, if a movie comes out, they'll just watch
it. They won't know any about this stuff, right, But Star Wars
does pay attention to their online fan base to a degree, and I just
feel like any just like I don't understand how shareholders have not just reamed out
more of a getting more films out to push their parks and everything. But
I don't think we should for Star Wars until we get a couple of films
under their belt. Again, I don't think we should know about anything until
they're about to go in to production, and even then it's hard to believe
because soul will happened, right. But to me, it's just like we've
heard this before where people, oh, well, yeah, ritin script's normal,
but we have that with Oh yeah, Ryan's working on the scripts still.
Oh, one day we'll get linked back together. Oh, Tik's working
on the scripts. And guess what after thor Love and Thunder, it's his
next project. And guess what it's not, Hey, the Ray movie.
It's gonna be the first movie back of these new ones. Guess what it's
Aiymore. It's Mandalorian Grogu that was announcing Star of Celebration. So just thinking
of like already it's like this is the first project. Well actually it's not.
Well, and Steve and I is still working on another draft. Just
get the shit together. It's the same reason. It's like if those rumors
were true that Linda Loff wrote that script and it was an eighty year old
ray and was like, yeah, we don't like this, Like what are
these meetings they're having, Like what are they fucking talking about? Like I,
I, well, why isn't everything linked down the same way as like
there whether it was Wonder Woman nineteen eighty four or just like, oh,
there's rumors that Patty was maybe hard to work with, which could just be
a narrative Star War someone's thrown out there. Oh it's hard. It's that
you know, they couldn't agree on story aspects. Why they should have agreed
on story aspects before they made the fucking top gun her skating around at the
flight school or whatever, right, Like it's just one on one for a
business in general, but it's one on one for like Star Wars that has
had so many issues in my opinion, like you got to get this together,
Like it's enough of this rigamal role of an. Now it's project with
sexy names, whether it's stars or actors, and then it doesn't happen.
We go through a bunch of scripts and so well, we're working on,
we're working on. I have now it's some of these things like if the
sky's not falling, and I know most scoopers have still said that's the planet's
happening, but it's like I've been given more evidence. I fortant not to
happen again now and it's just the you know shape once full of you,
shamey twice fully gonna get fooled again, you know. Like that's where it
is. I can't believe them until I see it, and it's an unfortunate
thing. But that's where for me again, two things already on this ray
film was supposed to be filming. First since not and then okay it was
supposed to you know the actually the scripts are still being written. What so
you put a gut into my head. I will say right now, I
feel like the movie is happening, but it is a fifty one forty nine
split. It is very close, and the only reason it splits just because
a few scoopers have said, yep, I'm still hearing it to go.
And here's the thing. I don't think those scoopers are wrong. I bet
they're being told that doesn't mean by May. If we to me, if
we're not filming by May, maybe that's where the percentage flips. That's like
a strike one, strike two, strike three, you're out, you know.
Uh, Mike says Luis Film has a serious boy cried movie wolf syndrome
when it comes to announcing movies. We're trying to assume it's not gonna happen.
Absolute right, it's just a joke. And I think we kind of
all not thought. But it was almost like the Last Gas that last Star
Wars celebration. When they announced those three movies, it was kind of like,
Okay, this is it. These have to happen, you know,
And it's just like they're doing a big role again celebration strikes or that was
for the strike, I guess. But COVID's over. You know. TV
shows are kind of met like, let's get the film franchise going again,
and here we are, you know, so I agree it stuff. We
have to believe to see it, and these rumors already are just making me
worried because other projects, like with The Batman. The reason I'm worried about
The Batman too is not because oh Reason is still working on the script and
they announced that that's different, that's a sequel, reastrusted. I'm only worrying
in the sense of they're trying to create some universe where The Batman has nothing
to do with that as of right now. Right that's the head blocking.
I'm worried about The Young Avengers or War Machine, which you know I like
to bug Brent and Chris about as far as saying it's a fake movie,
right. Brent doesn't think it qualifies. I just think it does because I
don't think that movie's gonna happen. That's not because like an MCU track record.
That's just because we'll talk about she all going a second. There's certain
projects where you just feel like this shouldn't happen anymore. If you're trying to
make a profit with mc if you're trying to make a success, War Machines
out the way to go with lucasfilm, It's not that I don't think it
started. This film can't be propel. It's not that I don't think this
is gonna clash with some universe. It's just that we don't fucking trust them,
and they've dropped the ball way too many times for me to hear.
Oh, they're still working on the script and this is a film that's gonna
be going. Yeah, sure, Jan, we'll see, but I'm still
gonna give them benefit doubt. All right, let's take our second ad break,
and then we're gonna get into some Oh no, we're not. We're
gonna get into Before we do it, let me go into s Bubb's question
here. He asked the doozy if every upcoming Star Wars movie and TV show
we're about to be canceled and you can only save one, which would it
be? And then the little fucker put for a harder question challenge, you
say and or two, because that would probably be it. Now. I
will preference this with like rumor Land. The only thing that probably could beat
and or two if they had publicly announced, hey we're doing nights for Republic
something, right, So let me get Star Wars upcoming projects. So I
was gonna say, like, oh, is this all them here or is
this just the show? Oh my god, that's so scary when you click
on it. There's so many like on tele Sean Levy the Rain movie tells
the Jedi. Okay, so let's animated stuff. I'll kick because I love
the animated stuff. No, okay, well I don't love the animated stuff,
but it's like I got my fill, Like if I lose it,
I got a good portion Stars like Clone Wars, Rebels, I can catch
up on bad Batch, Star Wars, fucking Visions, Tales of the Jedi,
lots of good stuff. So animated stuff, boot all that Rogue Squadron
that was already dead. So the man overs stuff. I would kick because
I'm make im. The reason I'm most excited about that is one just to
get a Star Wars movie. So it's just kind of like if you're single
and you had that sex in a while, and maybe you don't get the
best chemistry of this person and maybe you're not the most attractive to but you're
like, you know what, ReVibe enough. This is again, get the
job done. It's been a couple of months. Let's pony up. That's
what the flony and Favral movies are for me where it's just like, yeah,
I haven't been laying a bit. Let's uh, let's do this.
I'll take any Star Wars movie right now. I'm begging you give me a
Star Wars movie. I'm done with the Disney Plus stuff for the most part,
and that's where almost all of them and that's where. So for the
Disney Plus, I guess we go that rail. As far as the movies,
I take out Felony and Favrel's movie because I'm I'm more excited by them
on a business point of view than being excited for the movies. I don't
know if I need Star Wars Avengers. I don't know if I need Mandalor
and Grogus to take those out. Same thing for shows Season four, Mando
kick that. Asoka season two I am interested in, but I like,
I'm interested bit of a halfway kick it that. That's one I would kick
because I I did really enjoy there was some episodes that were great, but
there were some lulls in there, so I would kick that. Let's see,
I'll go down keep fighting that one's dead. No Skeleton Crew. Yeah
like the pitch so far. It seems fine, but I'm not. Like,
maybe you ask me after a trailer the Johnson Trilogy. No, you
could kick that. A droid story, you could kick that. My New
Republic, that's that already. Sean Levy and Taikawa tit you could kick both
of those. I'd have to hear what the projects were first, just a
pitch, and then maybe I would change my mind. Like if Sean Lean's
like, yeah, I'm doing that Kylo ren Ben solo movie, or I'm
doing Night for a Puck. Sure, but again I have to no.
So just based on their talent, I like Sean Levy, I like Taika.
I think Taika would be best, especially for his career right now,
to focus on nonstars film stuff like he just made fucking Jojo Rabbit a few
years ago, and I'm gonna see next gol Wins a couple of days from
now. My logan my second daughter is sick and she's gonna be home with
me the whole week. She's been poor girl. She threw up and pooped
her pants the same time. I felt so bad. It was just like,
oh, man, like that, that just sucks. She has the
fever of flu right now, so it's just like just just a bummer.
So I'm watching Spy Kids and fucking they love the Woody wood Pecker movies,
so oh god shoot me. But she's sick. I let her watch whatever.
I try to get Trek in there. But she did agree tomorrow to
watch some more Disney Dad stuff that I like, so I'm like cool or
anything. Just something. We did watch Push some Boots today and that was
like thumbs up, still great, So that's stuff i'd have to kick.
I like Sean Leevy, but I don't love them that much. And Tyker
should focus on original adapted book stuff. Lando whatever that is, you can
kick it. I got Solo. I could watch that. So really all
it comes down to is three. It's the James Mangold project, the Acolyte
project, and the Ray Movie Project. Instagram might brings up Acolyte because it
looks like a fresh start, new character is no homework. Yes, so
here's the thing. This is like a cheat right if act like could be
close, just a little bit close to the quality of and or it would
be act like because I am, like Mike said, new era new Stars.
I want them to go back. I want them and I don't think
future was the issue either to me, it's like if we get new movies
about that time, like do what they're doing now, right, I don't
want like, oh, let's just jump ten thousand in the future. It's
like that's where I did agree, or like if that was an issue Starts
had with Linda Loov's script of like why is Ray eighty? I'd have that
too. I'd be like, first of all, I wouldn't pay them to
write it, but I would be like, no, we want to use
Daisy Ridley, like write it as a thirty ye old woman or be gone,
you know, like keep Ridley around people like her. For the most
part, it is a riskier movie to do because not everyone loves the sequels,
and there are a group of people that might be meh, I don't
know miss episode ten. I know it's episode ten, but like do we
need this? So it's tough. I like the Mangold one. Here's where
I am on quality. I would pick the Mangled one because I still really
enjoyed Indy five, love Logan, love a lot of the things he's done.
Quality why I said pick that, But the pitch I don't care about
it. I don't want a first Jedi movie. I think that could hurt
Star Wars lower. So that's where I say that's a potential kick the act
Like pitch is great because like we said, new Characters, New Era,
a high republic phan of Menace, you know, but the quality, I
don't know if it's gonna be there. And then Ray that has the pitch,
I don't know if it is a quality because the director who knows.
But that one has like the heart so it's like quality Mangold Donald the Jedi
heart pick because I love you know, I love the Ray and Kylo Dynamic.
I end up loving Rainier than that franchise, so I put on my
top ten characters. Loved Daisy Ridley, thought she did great in that role.
So the heart pick is the Ray movie, and then the pitch pick
is Actte. What do I do? I really don't know, so it's
like what do I get? Like I think for me, I would just
still have to pick the Ray movie just because it's going forward and I want
the idea of these rumors of her action starting a new Jedi council getting a
Jedi order, because we would get that with the Acolyte. But we know
how that's gonna end right. This would be Hey, we're going to a
new Jedi Order, and fuck where could we go? This could create a
whole bunch of new spinoffs and stuff like that. Mangle I think is still
could be the best project if anyone happens. But again, it's just like
I don't have much interest in the first Jedi. I know some people do.
That's not my bag, baby, So uh yeah, let's take our
second at break and then we're gonna get in some Marvel news and so we'll
be right back