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yes, I know aka Survivor Man, and you're listening to Brian on Sasquatch

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Honesty. Hey then, and welcome
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We have an amazing guest lined up
for you. But as always,

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I want to start by inviting you. If you've had an encounter and you'd

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like to be on the show,
shoot me an email. You can get

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me at Brian at Paranormalworldproductions dot com. Get head over to the website,

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check out the blog and help support
the show. As I said, we

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got a great guest lined up for
you. I got to sit down and

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talk to Mary Ann from Missouri,
and she has quite a few interesting encounters

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with Sasquatch out there. She's actually
a BFRO investigator. She leads expeditions out

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there in Missouri and She also organizes
the Ozark Mountain Bigfoot Conference and camp out

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that Wayne and I will be a
part of this year. Wayne and I

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are going to be speaking at that
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conference and then we're going out to
do the camp out after the conference on

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Saturday, and Wayne will be a
speaker at the camp out. I've got

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all the information right here in the
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is click on the link, and
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be in that area and would like
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available for that, so you can
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We would love to see you there. Marianne did send me quite a few

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photographs that she had taken of the
investigations that we talk about during this interview,

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so you're interested in seeing those,
make sure you head over to Paranormal

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Worldproductions dot com check out the sasquatch
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the page. Click over and you
can see all of these photos that we

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referenced today. But enough of that, I know you guys are ready to

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get into it. Mary Anne's on
the line. She's ready to go.

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All this left for you to do
is sit back, relax and enjoy the

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show. I want welcome our guests
of the show. It is Mary Ann

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from Missouri. Welcome to the show. Thank you. Let's get right into

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it. Let's talk about this bigfoot
thing. Tell me what got you interested

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in the subject to begin with.
I was one of those little weird kids

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that liked everything that wasn't normal.
When I was a little kid and lived

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in a very small town. My
mom worked in town and the library was

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right there across from where she worked. A lot of times I'd go over

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to the library and sit on the
floor pull out books that had bigfoot or

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lockness, monster or anything like that. As a little kid. So I've

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always been interested, but didn't get
into it until later and live when I

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figured out that the BFRORO did bigfoot
expeditions, I came out, Oh,

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tell my husband, I want to
go bigfoot hunting. And he said,

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excuse me, you want to do
what? I said, Yeah, they

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have expeditions, you can go.
He told everybody we were camping and that's

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all we were doing. He said, she may be bigfooting, I'm camping,

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but yeah, that's how we got
started in it. I had someone

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tell me that the BFRO did expeditions, and from there I started looking and

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sure enough they did, and they
did them in Missouri, which I don't

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know. I was naive. I
didn't think we had him here. I

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thought it was a with coat thing, right everybody else says. So we

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signed up to go, which my
kids thought I was crazy for doing this.

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So like, you're going into woods
with thirty people. You don't know,

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hello, mother, what is wrong
with you? But we did it.

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Anyway. When we're pulling in that
the first day, it's okay,

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we have no idea if these people
are crazy or not or what I mean.

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It's really crazy you pull into all
these people. But let me tell

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you what. I have made some
of the best friends because of this,

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I really and truly have. It
was the first night that we were there.

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Basically, you gear upe with whatever
it is, you have your night

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vision, your lights, whatever,
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And we'd been out there a couple
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areas, we met up with the
other groups. I think there was a

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total of four groups, maybe like
ten in each group, something like that.

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So around midnight all the groups met
back up went to this one area

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and everybody get out of the vehicles. Everybody gets back in with their groups

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and they all go off in the
whatever direction they're going. And our group

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went down the road. It was
like a it's not a gravel road,

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it's like a chip and seal road. It used to be an area that

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had been logged a long time ago, but it's grown back up. Walk

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down the road. The gentleman that's
leading the expedition says, hey, let's

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jump off, and hear just go
back over here. Maybe let's sit down

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because it's a full moon, and
you don't see these things on a full

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moon, then why are we out
on a full moon? But anyway,

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I hope we walk off just a
little ways into the woods. There's a

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nice area and we all sit down. Now there's I believe there was ten

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of us total in this group.
We all sat down except my husband.

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He wasn't going to sit down.
He was leaning against a tree. And

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we're sitting there and I'm looking over
to the left of me and there's this

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girl. She's had to toe camo. She sits down, she's got a

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hoodie on and she pulls that hoodie
over her head. And closes her eyes,

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and I'm just sitting there looking at
her, thinking, Wow, if

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I didn't know she was sitting there, I wouldn't see her. And while

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I'm running through this, I'm looking
at her looking back. This is my

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point of attention at this point,
and I can hear the guys to my

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right talking about how many of us
are there in this group and who's sitting

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where, because somebody wants to know
who that is sitting over by the bush.

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This is the discussion they're having while
I'm looking at this girl, thinking,

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my god, I can't believe how
much I can't see her, even

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though I do know she's sitting right
there. And about that time they realize

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that there's eleven of us sitting here
and not ten. At that point,

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they jump up move toward this.
It basically rolls over this small berm and

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takes off. Now I didn't see
any of this. I heard it,

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didn't see it. At this point, we're all standing facing all of these

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gentlemen who are having this discussion of
was that a small one? Was it

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here? Do we walk in on
it? Did it follow us? And

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they're having this discussion and we're standing
their face and My husband is to my

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left and there's a younger girl to
my right, and we're standing just watching

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the guys. They're all discussing it. And when he start to hear these

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noises behind us, and this girl
looks at me and her eyes were huge.

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I looked at my husband and world
is nod and going, yes,

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we hear this. It sounded like
a large hand flapping like your thigh,

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Like stand outside and you're slapping your
side trying to get your dog's attention.

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I thought this sounded like only larger. At that point, I turned around

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and was looking behind us, I
don't know, took four or five steps

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trying to see what this is,
and about that time, it completely stepped

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out from behind one of the trees. Not the peaking, This was full

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on. You could see the whole
thing standing there. Now it's a full

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moon, so you don't see the
features of the face because all the shadows

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from the moon, but you could
see just this very large silhouette standing twenty

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five yards from us, and it's
just standing there. But it made no

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It was not trying to be quiet, it was not trying to stay hidden.

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It wanted us paying attention to it. I believe and not what had

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happened, because it stood there.
Then it took a step and it stepped

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out from the other side of the
tree. The tree was by no means

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big enough for it to hide behind, but it was just that was like

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the point of reference. It would
step out to one side, then step

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out to the other side. At
this point, my husband hollers at the

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guy that is basically leading the group, the expedition leader, and said,

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you may want to come over here, And so he comes over and I'm

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trying to show him, and he's
so excited from what was going on that

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he can't see it, even though
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And at that point then there starts
to be movement off to the other

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side. At that point he's that's
it, We're done, let's go.

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They're surrounding us, and I'm like, no, this is what we're here

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for. I want to stay.
Basically, they let me know that they

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were going to drag me out of
the woods if I didn't come with them

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right now. Oh, begrudgingly,
we left the area, and something followed

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us out because you could hear it
walking behind us. So we get back

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out onto the road and we walk
back up. One of the groups that

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we had been with was standing up
the road and someone was thurming down the

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road toward us, and as we
got closer to them, they're like,

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hey, you guys left somebody down
there. They're standing in the road.

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They counted and went, no,
we didn't. There's only ten of us.

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We've already had this discussion and they're
like, no, there's something down

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there in the road. So it
had followed us out stood in the road,

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watched us walk back up. At
that point, somebody decides it's not

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in the road. At this point, it's gone. They walk back down

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there, they do a comparison.
Of course that person is the big guy

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in the group, but he's significantly
smaller than the thermal image that they had.

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So at that point, it followed
us out watched us did all this.

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So we all went back to camp
and they're all telling us that this

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never happens on your first expedition,
your first night out, you never see

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anything. It's like we had a
class a sighting first night out. Needless

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to say, I'm hooked. I
have a been. But we went back

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to that area the next day.
During the day we found a foot print

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in a mudhole. We took pictures
of it. I have pictures of it.

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A gentleman tried to cast it,
but because there's just too much water,

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he didn't take the water like try
to siphon the water out of the

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hole or anything. It just didn't
cast well. But we went back to

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the same area. We were just
looking around and there was a small berm

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around about half of this area.
When you stood on the and looked where

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we had been sitting, this whole
area was like matted, packed trampled down.

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Because if you turned and looked the
other direction, there's all kinds of

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little saplings out there all over.
The place where we had walked in and

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sat down looked like a very large
bedding area. We started to go,

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do these things sleep here during the
day? And we just walked in in

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the middle of the night and sat
down in their bedroom. We weren't real

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sure about that, but there was
like, there's water very close to that

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area. The deer are thick out
there, acorns and there's all kinds of

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things to eat. It was deceiving
because it really wasn't that far from a

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road. A granted it's a country
road, it's a road through national forest,

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but really and truly, it's not
that far off of a road,

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so that was interesting that they would
be that close to that. So,

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yeah, something followed us out because
we've got the tracks, we've got them.

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After all the people that saw the
other one, they've come to the

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conclusion that maybe it was a juvenile. Now we don't know if it was

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sitting there and we walked past it, or if it came in as we

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were sitting down with us and we
didn't realize it. There's a total of

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ten of us that had this happen, just varying degrees of what each person

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experienced. It's not just one person, it's ten. So that's interesting in

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that that was the first night of
the first expedition I ever went on.

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The second night didn't have a sighting
to speak of. But we were driving

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down another road in the middle of
nowhere, just in the middle of nowhere,

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there's like a wide spot in the
road and they pull off. Okay,

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we get out. It was one
of those things of I didn't want

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to be there, I didn't want
to get out of the van. I

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didn't like the way it felt,
but I wasn't going to say anything because

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I won't go back. All these
people get back in their vehicle. But

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I did not want to be there. And I don't have a problem with

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being in the woods at night.
I'm a country girl. That's not an

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issue for me. It was an
issue that night. I didn't like where

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we were at. I didn't want
to be there. So our group got

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out started walking down the road and
this was actually a dirt roAP and I

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was in the middle of the road
as close to people as I could be.

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I was about to walk over my
husband. Normally I'm like off in

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the bloy gagon in the back or
I had a feeling something was going to

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reach out and grab me, and
I did not want to be there.

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And we kept walking, and we
walked a bit and all of a sudden

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it's gone. We walk out of
it, and it's okay, that's really

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odd. Now. I didn't say
anything because, like I said, I

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didn't want all these people to get
back in the vehicle and leave because I

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was having a moment. We went
down the road a little farther and yet

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again the guy goes, let's go
sit off in the wood over here.

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Oh crap, Okay, so we
do, and we're sitting there. The

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leader and this other lady are having
a discussion about the light that's coming up.

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Come to find out it's the moon
coming up. They were having a

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whole discussion about that. We're sitting
in the woods again. My husband and

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I are a little bit away.
We're like at the edge of the group,

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and we're sitting there and all of
a sudden, these two little lights

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pop up at my feet. They
look like the size of maybe a golf

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ball, and they're just like floating
around about a foot from us. And

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he looked at me like, am
I seeing that? And I just nodded

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and went yeah. And they just
floated around there for a couple of minutes,

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and right before we lot ready to
leave, they just they were gone.

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Now none of the rest of them
saw them, because they weren't right

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over there where we were at.
So we get up, we walk out,

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and we walk back into that feeling
as we're getting toward the vehicles,

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that hair the back year and neck
year creaked out. There's something out there.

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Feeling is coming back. As soon
as we got close to the vehicles,

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I was in the vehicle and the
door shut. I'm like, I'm

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done, let's go. I had
at that point, I just wasn't having

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any part of it. It just
was not a good feeling. And I've

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never had it since. And we
have had other encounters, but I've never

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had anything that felt like that.
We've had other things happen. The next

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year, we went on another expedition
here in Missouri. We actually were in

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a small rural campground. We have
a little camper. We have a vintage

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camper that my husband I have.
I knew when I went to sleep that

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night there was one pole light in
the whole campground and it shined into our

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window, so the camper was lit
up. I wake up in the midle

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of the night and the camper is
pitch black, and I'm like, wait

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a minute, that's odd. And
I'm laying there going why did I wake

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up anyway, not hearing anything,
What's going on? Lay there for a

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couple of minutes, and all of
a sudden, the camper's light again.

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Something had been in front of the
window. So I'm laying there going,

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Okay, if I jump up,
I'm going to make a lot of noise.

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And by the time I jump up
and get the door open, this

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is on the opposite side. Whatever
is going to be gone. So the

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next morning when my husband got up, I made him come around to the

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back side of the camp or he's
about six to two. I got him

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back there and he doesn't even come
This window's having feet off the ground.

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He's what are we doing? And
I'm like, there was something standing front

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this window left night. I want
to know how tall it was. And

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he goes the windows seven feet and
I said it was blocking all the light

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out. He's okay, which the
area and the ground's really hard, so

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there wasn't you couldn't really wasn't any
tracks or anything, but something had been

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standing in front of the window.
And I think it was the second night

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that we were on the expedition that
year. We had gone out to an

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area and we were one of the
teams that was like basically camp. So

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we just sat. Everybody split off
from us. We were a central location.

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They all split off from us,
and we didn't really have anything going

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on too much. So the team's
radiotis and said we're headed back to you.

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We said, okay. Right after
they had done that, we got

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this crisp clear whoop. That wasn't
one hundred yards from us, and we

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thought it was the expedition leader because
it sounded just like him. So when

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he got back to us, we're
like, why did you stop and do

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that? And he said, I
couldn't stop coming up that hill in the

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truck. I would have had to
have rolled all the way back to the

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bottom and start again. He goes, that wasn't me, and it was

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close to us. We'd never heard
anything, we didn't see anything, and

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it just let out the clearest whoop
right there where we were at. We

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don't always have a lot of stuff, but there's something that in this area

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that we go, there's always some
kind of something that happens. One year

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we were out there, there was
a real small group of us that stayed

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out by this small lake. We
started to hear this what sounded like a

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real long drawn out whoop. We
were trying to figure out because at first

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we thought maybe it was something mechanical, and we kept listening to it.

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And one of the gentlemen that was
with us, he's got dogs that runs

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coyotes, so he knows a lot
of these noises and different things, like

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he goes, first of all,
the lung capacity on that because it did

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it for a total of thirty minutes. It would just this very long,

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drawn out whoop, and it would
stop long enough like it was taking a

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breath, and it would do it
again, and it was running because it

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was moving. The salmon was coming
from a different direction the whole time.

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And we've got it recorded. It's
in the background. It's hard to hear.

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So he went home and pulled the
map up and looked at it,

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and he said, the thing in
that thirty minute, and it's traveled over

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three miles of highly wooded hills and
hollows from the time it started till it

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stopped. And we don't know if
it finally moved out of range to where

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we couldn't hear it, or if
it finally stopped. That happened to us

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one time, one time, we'd
all met up, all the groups,

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all the vehicles we'd met up.
We're trying to decide where we're going to

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go. Nobody's really having a whole
lot go on, we're discussing it.

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All of a sudden, the truck
that we had gotten out of there was

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a dirt clod that hit the hood
square in the middle, big old cloud

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of dirt and no vehicle was moving. Everybody was out of their vehicles.

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It was like, Okay, where'd
that come from? So, you know,

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it's like just odd things like that
happened. One year we went to

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Kentucky for an expedition and it was
on private property. We kept hearing cows

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and we were talking to the landowner
about the cattle, and she said,

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there's not any cattle around here.
He's so closest cattle are fifteen to twenty

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miles the morning, and these things
sounded like they were if you were on

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top of the hill, they were
down in the valley, or if you

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were in the valley, they were
on top of the It was close.

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There's no cows out here anywhere out
here. These things were mimicking cows and

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doing it all the time. So
several people were here in that and that

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was the first night that we went
there. We were with a group and

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this small group split into two groups. We were by like a private Emily

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cemetery. So one group took off
and started walking the trail. The rest

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of us waited a few minutes and
started walking it behind him. At the

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end of it, we met up
and we were standing there talking do you

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hear anything, you see anything,
that kind of thing. And we try

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on to look and there's a light
coming down the trail and it looks like

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somebody's headlight, and it's bobbing and
down like somebody's headlights. So we're waiting

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for this person to catch up to
us. We know it's not any of

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us because we're all accounted for,
so we're thinking, Okay, somebody's maybe

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had something happen. They're coming to
get us. There was a little dip

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down before you came up the little
hill. To us. This thing dipped

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down never comes out, so we
go to look and there's nothing there.

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There's nobody there, there's no light. We have no idea what that was.

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So we're walking back to the base
camp and we're walking on a road.

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This limb comes flying out of the
trees, not falling down, but

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flying out. My husband he was
closest, and there was a young man

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behind him, so they were closer
to it when it happened. At the

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same time that happened, there was
like this sickening sweet smell on my side,

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almost like we'd walked into a patch
of flowers or something disturbed it.

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So the next day when we were
driving out. We were looking as we

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went out, there's no flowers out
there. It had been freshly mowed.

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The guy would mow this field.
There wasn't anything out there, So it

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was like, okay, we get
a stick thrown at us and an odds

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smell in that area. I don't
think that was the next day that we

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were out there. We did a
day hike down into a new area.

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The gentleman told us, I've opened
this trail up for you. I've tied

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some markers. Just follow that around. So we had gone down and there

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we were doing that, I've found
what looks like almost a knuckle print.

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Now it was just in leaf litter, so it wasn't like anything that we

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could really cast. But it's very
large and it's hard to see once you

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get the picture. It was clear
as day when you're standing there looking at

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it, but it just didn't translate
well in the picture. There's two or

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three people were all looking at it, taking pictures of it, and we

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continue on down the trail. We
get down there, one of the guys

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says, hey, I want to
do this call. Okay, it wasn't

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really a call, it was something
that he had that made this like banshee

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scream, and I'm like, dude, no, don't do that. Don't

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do that. We got to reply
to it in the middle of the day

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and we're like, okay, yeah, you probably shouldn't have done that.

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That was probably not a good idea. We got to reply to that.

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A couple of wood knocks at that
point went okay, all right, this

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is where we're going to come back
to tonight. So that evening rolled around.

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My husband's I don't feel well.
He's like, my stomach is bothering

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me. I'm not leaving camp.
I said, okay, well just stay

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a camp. No big deal.
So I think it would. There was

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six large gentlemen that went back to
where we had been. So where I

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found the knuckle print, you had
to step over a very large log so

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big it was like there wasn't any
stepping over from. I had to climb

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over it. And on the other
side of it was where that print was

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at. When they got to that
log that night, there was a log

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shoved in the ground in the middle
of the trail. And stay tuned for

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more sasquatch out to see we're right
back after these messages. So they were

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like, that's probably a pretty good
indicator we better not go any farther.

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So they sat down and they were
just discussing what they were going to do

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when they started to hear the grouse. They couldn't see anything, so they

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thought, okay, we're going to
start to walk back. So they started

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to walk back slowly. Every time
they would stop, it would growl at

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them. By the time they got
back to camp, they couldn't hardly talk

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to us. They were so upset
and worked up because it had followed them

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out of the woods and every time
they stopped it growled at them. So

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where my husband and I were camp
that night was not really that far from

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that area. That's the first time
I ever went do you think maybe we

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should sleep in the truck tonight?
My heels, I think we're okayh yeah,

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sure. And of course we hear
the cows in the middle of the

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night again, right. We had
to get up pretty early to start driving

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back to Missouri. It wasn't even
daylight yet, and there was this crisp,

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clear whoot that morning that was just
down from our tent a little bit,

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and I was like, okay,
yeah, this place is like thick

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with them. Yeah, I would
love to go back there. The incident

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that happened here at home. So
I had been at work one day,

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came home, walked to the house, into the bathroom, which is on

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the back side of the house.
Now, I have an older home that

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has very large windows in it.
The way that our house sits, our

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backyard gradually declines as you're going through
the Now we have a neighbor that is

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behind us, but they're quite a
ways back. I had came into the

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bathroom to use the bathroom, sat
down. You can see out the window.

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Because of the grade of the yard
and everything like that. I've stood

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in the backyard before and you can't
see in the bathroom window. So I

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have no curtains on it because nobody
can see in it. My backyard is

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pretty, and the neighbor's yard's pretty, so I would like to look at

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it. Sit down, look out
the window, and I see for a

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split second, and the only way
that I can describe it is it looks

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like that alien predator that shimmer.
It's going through the neighbor's backyard. Now,

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from what I can see, it's
not on the ground. I couldn't

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see the feet, but it was
high enough up that it almost looked like

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it was a couple of feet off
the ground. Like I said, I

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couldn't see the feet. I wasn't
looking at that. It was only split

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second. That's the only way I
can describe it. Is that shimmering,

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that light effect, that glistening.
It was just odd and my brain couldn't

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process that. I just finished using
the bathroom, left shut the door,

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came into my living room and just
sat down. My brain was trying to

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just process what I had seen.
I guess I was just sitting in the

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living room. The TV wasn't on
anything like that for several minutes, and

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at the time, my elderly mother
came in and said, what are you

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doing? And I looked at her
funny. It stamped me out of it,

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and it was several months before I
told anybody because it was just so

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ridiculous to me. So one night, we're sitting at the dinner table.

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It's a couple of fellow bigfooters,
John and Lou and my husband, Robert.

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We're all sitting having dinner, and
I just blurred the thing out to

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them all what I've seen, and
my husband is like, what you didn't

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tell me about this, and I'm
like, nope, this is the first

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time I'm telling anybody. It just
came out and they all just sat there

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and looked at me. They questioned
me a little bit. Still can't wrap

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my mind around it. I don't
know what it was. Does it make

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me pause now and wonder if they
can cloak or was it something completely different?

409
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I don't know. All I can
talk about is what I experienced.

410
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And like I said, it was
just for a couple of seconds and that's

411
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all it took to completely fry my
brain. This expedition was in Kentucky and

412
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it was twenty twenty one one.
Steve Coles was leading this one. We

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were there with Charlie Raymond. But
we had taken a small group out,

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taking a trail off down the side
of a hill the whole time. About

415
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halfway down the hill, that feeling
started to come in that we're being watched.

416
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How the hairs will stand up on
the back of your neck, and

417
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you just get that feeling that you're
not alone out there. That started.

418
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So the group was walking down the
hill across the small creek at the bottom

419
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of the hill and at which point
we started up the other side We got

420
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a little ways up the hill and
they decided to stop, and there was

421
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a large log and I had sat
down on the log and there were a

422
00:30:42.599 --> 00:30:47.680
couple other people there. I finally
had to get up off this log because

423
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the feeling that there was something standing
right behind me was so overwhelming. It

424
00:30:55.119 --> 00:30:57.799
wasn't funny. And I got up
and I turned around and I looked,

425
00:30:57.839 --> 00:31:02.559
and I mean, there's nothing there. You could see pretty well. It

426
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was another one of those nights with
a full moon, and there wasn't anything

427
00:31:06.720 --> 00:31:11.240
there. I sat down again.
It almost felt like something was almost breathing

428
00:31:11.319 --> 00:31:15.400
down my neck. That's just how
close it felt. It was a very

429
00:31:15.640 --> 00:31:23.799
unnerving feeling. So I finally got
up and walked across the trail and stood

430
00:31:23.880 --> 00:31:30.160
on the other side and just watched
because that feeling it just bothered me so

431
00:31:30.279 --> 00:31:34.480
badly. That feeling of being watched
never left. That evening. We had

432
00:31:34.920 --> 00:31:41.880
some odd lights up on the hillside
from us. We also had an aircraft

433
00:31:41.920 --> 00:31:48.079
flying over. It was silent.
They came to the conclusion that it was

434
00:31:48.119 --> 00:31:52.519
possibly a drone, but drones aren't
supposed to be over National forest state parks.

435
00:31:52.640 --> 00:31:56.960
Whatever we were in, I think
we were in a national park.

436
00:31:57.519 --> 00:32:01.759
They're not supposed to fly over that, so we really weren't sure what was

437
00:32:01.799 --> 00:32:06.680
going on with that one. That
was just a whole lot of real weird

438
00:32:07.440 --> 00:32:13.119
because we never had any knocks or
whoops or anything like that, but it

439
00:32:13.279 --> 00:32:17.160
was just a lot of creepy feeling, and sometimes that's all that happens.

440
00:32:17.960 --> 00:32:25.519
My friend Lou had came down one
weekend and we went to a state park

441
00:32:25.559 --> 00:32:30.400
that's close to us here. It
was myself, my husband, and Lou.

442
00:32:31.000 --> 00:32:37.960
We went into this area roughly nine
o'clock at night, and it had

443
00:32:37.119 --> 00:32:42.720
rained a little bit earlier in the
day, so we're the only ones out

444
00:32:42.720 --> 00:32:45.519
there is there's no cars in the
parking lot or anything else. We're walking

445
00:32:45.559 --> 00:32:49.599
out through there, and Lou and
I had been out during the day and

446
00:32:49.680 --> 00:32:53.519
walked the same trail, so that
night we were walking out, all of

447
00:32:53.559 --> 00:32:59.200
a sudden, I'm hit with this
just incredible fear of there's a bear.

448
00:32:59.559 --> 00:33:01.359
There's a and that's all I could
think. And I had to talk to

449
00:33:01.400 --> 00:33:07.759
myself about not turning around and running
back to the truck. And I am

450
00:33:07.920 --> 00:33:14.279
normally not like that. I don't
have that fear in the wood. So

451
00:33:14.319 --> 00:33:16.559
I'm having to talk to myself.
I'm not telling my husband about it.

452
00:33:16.599 --> 00:33:21.759
I'm not telling Lou. I'm just
walking along with them. We're enjoying our

453
00:33:21.799 --> 00:33:25.039
time, they're enjoying their time.
Anyway, we walked all the way out

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to the creek, nothing really going
on now. Every once while we would

455
00:33:30.240 --> 00:33:37.119
stop and Lou thought there were small
pebbles being thrown. We came back and

456
00:33:37.240 --> 00:33:40.000
there's a small bridge that goes over
the creek. We had to come across

457
00:33:40.039 --> 00:33:45.440
it, and we stopped as we
started up the stairs. We stopped at

458
00:33:45.440 --> 00:33:50.680
the top and he believed there was
small pebbles being brown. He felt that

459
00:33:50.799 --> 00:33:54.680
was going on. So we came
across the bridge and came down and we're

460
00:33:54.720 --> 00:34:00.240
walking back to the parking lot where
the truck sat. We were, I

461
00:34:00.279 --> 00:34:04.720
don't know, ten fifteen feet from
the truck, and as I turned to

462
00:34:04.799 --> 00:34:09.159
say something to them, my husband
hit the lights to unlock the truck.

463
00:34:09.960 --> 00:34:15.760
When he did that, the headlights
on the truck pop on across the parking

464
00:34:15.800 --> 00:34:21.639
lot behind a large rock. The
rock was about four feet tall. Behind

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00:34:21.719 --> 00:34:25.559
it was this shadow that had to
be every bit of seven feet tall.

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00:34:27.280 --> 00:34:31.440
And I only thought for a split
second because I was turning to say something

467
00:34:31.480 --> 00:34:36.760
to them when it happened, and
when I whipped my head back, it

468
00:34:36.960 --> 00:34:40.400
was gone. Of course, neither
one saw it because they were behind me

469
00:34:42.360 --> 00:34:47.039
when we were leaving and pull the
truck over closer to that area. The

470
00:34:47.159 --> 00:34:53.039
rock is like three and a half
four feet tall, and this shadow was

471
00:34:53.559 --> 00:34:58.559
a lot taller than that. I
want to say it was probably around seven

472
00:34:58.599 --> 00:35:02.039
feet tall. Saw it for a
split second, but it was there.

473
00:35:04.119 --> 00:35:07.840
So last year during the conference,
we did a camp out, and this

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00:35:07.880 --> 00:35:13.440
is on private property. This gentleman
has had all kinds of things happened to

475
00:35:13.519 --> 00:35:16.760
him. I think he's lived there
maybe five years now. When he first

476
00:35:16.840 --> 00:35:21.960
moved in, they used to throw
rocks on the roof of his house.

477
00:35:22.000 --> 00:35:25.480
It was metal. That was the
first thing that got him to notice that

478
00:35:27.519 --> 00:35:31.719
there was something going on. A
couple of gentlemen that I know, Shane

479
00:35:31.719 --> 00:35:36.639
Carpenter and Randy Harrington, had been
out there before. So Shane took me

480
00:35:36.679 --> 00:35:39.960
out to meet this gentleman. He
was agreeable to let us camp out there.

481
00:35:40.639 --> 00:35:45.719
We'd been out there a few days
and on the last night we had

482
00:35:45.800 --> 00:35:50.760
our conference, we came back and
camped. We had a storm that blew

483
00:35:50.880 --> 00:35:55.519
through tore up a couple of tents. So once everybody was settled and back

484
00:35:55.559 --> 00:35:59.840
in their tents and gone back to
sleep, one of the girls decided not

485
00:36:00.559 --> 00:36:04.079
to sleep in her tent. She
stayed in her car. It was after

486
00:36:04.159 --> 00:36:07.440
three am. She said she kept
hearing this tink sound. It woke her

487
00:36:07.559 --> 00:36:14.159
up and she opened her eyes and
her car SUV whatever was part next to

488
00:36:14.199 --> 00:36:17.519
my husband and ice tent. She
opened her eyes and was looking out the

489
00:36:17.519 --> 00:36:22.960
windshield and could see this one standing
behind or right at the corner of my

490
00:36:23.039 --> 00:36:27.719
husband ied tent. So she said, I'm trying to figure out do I

491
00:36:27.760 --> 00:36:30.760
try to take a picture of it? Do I just sit here and watch

492
00:36:30.800 --> 00:36:35.440
it? She'sy. I didn't know
what to do because she's not she's a

493
00:36:35.519 --> 00:36:40.719
paranormal investigator, so she wasn't real
versed in what she should do, but

494
00:36:40.800 --> 00:36:45.000
she was able. She did look
at her phone to see what time it

495
00:36:45.280 --> 00:36:52.320
was. My husband heard it walking
around behind the tent. The next morning,

496
00:36:52.440 --> 00:36:55.519
when everybody's up, my husband says, in passing as we're passing to

497
00:36:55.559 --> 00:36:59.960
go to the bathroom, I think
I heard something last night. Yeah,

498
00:37:00.039 --> 00:37:00.840
yeah, okay, I got to
go to the bathroom. I'll talk to

499
00:37:00.880 --> 00:37:06.079
you later. When I get back
over to the tent, people are starting

500
00:37:06.079 --> 00:37:09.159
to talk. These people have seen
something walking behind there. This girl heard

501
00:37:09.239 --> 00:37:14.159
this, my husband heard this.
It just went on and on. So

502
00:37:14.199 --> 00:37:17.440
we got the guy up that was
tracking where like, there looks to be

503
00:37:17.599 --> 00:37:22.000
something out here. He laughed.
Later he said, I figured y'all were

504
00:37:22.039 --> 00:37:24.519
full of crap. He said that
unfair, there's anything out there. When

505
00:37:24.519 --> 00:37:30.840
he got out there, there were
compression tracks all around the outside of the

506
00:37:30.920 --> 00:37:36.119
camp. It had been behind multiple
tents. You could track it all the

507
00:37:36.159 --> 00:37:39.679
way down around the whole camping area. It had even gone in because we

508
00:37:39.719 --> 00:37:44.280
had porta potties out there. It
had even gone past them. It had

509
00:37:44.280 --> 00:37:47.400
been all over the place. We
started to put all the stories together,

510
00:37:49.039 --> 00:37:52.599
and luckily all these people had enough
presence of mind to look at a clock

511
00:37:52.960 --> 00:37:59.119
of phone something and we could see
where it had came in at roughly three

512
00:37:59.119 --> 00:38:04.880
in the morning and started to investigate
and just make its way all around the

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00:38:04.920 --> 00:38:08.840
camp site. Daniel Perez happened to
be there and he documented a lot of

514
00:38:08.840 --> 00:38:13.679
this. He put it in the
Bigfoot Times that year. I believe it's

515
00:38:13.719 --> 00:38:19.079
the October edition. He calls it
the perfect storm. He's got that all

516
00:38:19.119 --> 00:38:22.039
in there. Pretty much the whole
Bigfoo Times that year was all about our

517
00:38:22.079 --> 00:38:25.840
camp out and conference and all the
stuff that went on. We're going to

518
00:38:25.880 --> 00:38:30.599
go back to that place this year
and camp out again. Let's talk a

519
00:38:30.599 --> 00:38:32.679
little bit about you mentioned the conference. Talk about the conference. What can

520
00:38:32.679 --> 00:38:37.119
people expect when they check that out? What do you guys have going on

521
00:38:37.199 --> 00:38:39.239
this year? We got all kinds
of good things going on this year.

522
00:38:39.920 --> 00:38:45.440
So what we normally do, I
don't think anybody else does that. Most

523
00:38:45.440 --> 00:38:49.880
of what people do is they just
have a conference at a convention center.

524
00:38:50.119 --> 00:38:52.920
You get a hotel room, you
see your speakers. That's what it is.

525
00:38:53.519 --> 00:38:58.519
Ours is a little different now.
If you're just coming for the conference,

526
00:38:58.719 --> 00:39:00.760
yes you get your speakers and your
vendors and that kind of stuff.

527
00:39:01.159 --> 00:39:06.559
But if you choose to go camp
with us, then you're going to be

528
00:39:06.760 --> 00:39:12.079
out in an area where there has
been bigfoot activity. Now it is primitive

529
00:39:12.159 --> 00:39:16.320
camping. We usually do bring at
least quarter potties in, We feed you,

530
00:39:16.719 --> 00:39:21.719
and you're out there for three or
four days. You can go out

531
00:39:21.800 --> 00:39:23.480
with us at night if you want
to. If you just want to stay

532
00:39:23.519 --> 00:39:27.360
in camp, you can do that
too, because we have people that do

533
00:39:27.480 --> 00:39:31.480
both. As time goes on,
we're getting more access to the properties in

534
00:39:31.519 --> 00:39:37.239
that area. This is a county
in Missouri that is very active. There's

535
00:39:37.440 --> 00:39:43.280
just a lot of bigfoot activity that's
going on. This year, we have

536
00:39:43.480 --> 00:39:49.400
moved to a bigger event venue and
we have a big name coming with us

537
00:39:49.440 --> 00:39:52.280
this year. Would you like to
tell them about that? Brian, I

538
00:39:52.320 --> 00:39:54.599
think you should go ahead and say
it. We're going to have the one

539
00:39:54.719 --> 00:40:00.960
and only Brian King Shark from Sasquatch. See that's right, you heard it

540
00:40:01.000 --> 00:40:05.760
here, folks. I'm definitely looking
forward to the conference. I'm definitely looking

541
00:40:05.760 --> 00:40:08.000
forward to the camp out. I
cannot wait. We will certainly post all

542
00:40:08.039 --> 00:40:12.559
the details and the show notes for
you guys to pick up your tickets and

543
00:40:12.719 --> 00:40:15.760
check everything out. I am really
excited to go. I do have a

544
00:40:15.840 --> 00:40:19.000
question about some of the stuff that
happened earlier on in your story. I

545
00:40:19.000 --> 00:40:22.679
would be remiss if I didn't ask
how long did it take after the first

546
00:40:22.960 --> 00:40:28.199
quote camp out for your husband to
actually get on board with the whole Sasquatch

547
00:40:28.280 --> 00:40:30.360
and going out and just doing more
than camping. Did it take that first

548
00:40:30.440 --> 00:40:35.199
night and having those experiences? Was
he converted after those first experiences. No,

549
00:40:35.280 --> 00:40:38.199
he's still a skeptic now. Really, he's still a skeptic now.

550
00:40:38.639 --> 00:40:44.400
He said there's something out there,
he just doesn't know what it is.

551
00:40:44.960 --> 00:40:51.400
So, yeah, Keith our resident
skeptic, which is good because he's very

552
00:40:51.480 --> 00:40:57.599
logical in his thinking. He's heard
things, he has seen some things that

553
00:40:57.679 --> 00:41:00.159
he's I don't know what it was, and I'm not going to say it

554
00:41:00.199 --> 00:41:04.719
was bigfoot because I couldn't tell.
I have to give him that. But

555
00:41:04.840 --> 00:41:07.840
he does tell people now that we
bigfoot hunt. He's went from telling him

556
00:41:07.880 --> 00:41:10.679
when we're just camping that yeah,
we do actually go out and look for

557
00:41:10.760 --> 00:41:15.719
bigfoot, that we do expeditions that
kind of thing. So he will admit

558
00:41:15.800 --> 00:41:21.159
that. That is definitely movement in
the right direction, I think, Marian,

559
00:41:21.679 --> 00:41:23.920
I really appreciate you coming on and
sharing your experiences and talking about the

560
00:41:23.920 --> 00:41:28.639
conference. I cannot wait to hang
out with you guys in September. You

561
00:41:28.679 --> 00:41:30.199
guys go and check it out.
Like I said, we'll have links in

562
00:41:30.239 --> 00:41:34.280
the show notes for everybody to get
more information about it. But I've really

563
00:41:34.320 --> 00:41:36.599
had a blast talking to you.
I can't thank you enough for coming on.

564
00:41:37.159 --> 00:41:39.079
Thank you. I appreciate that,
and I can't wait for you to

565
00:41:39.079 --> 00:41:45.159
come hang out with us. They
say you don't gotta go home, but

566
00:41:45.440 --> 00:42:20.320
you can't stay. I don't want
outside steps. Step chart, this chart,

567
00:42:20.559 --> 00:42:25.320
that chart, everything come right back, right back for joy, for

568
00:42:25.599 --> 00:42:31.719
me and the enjoy. Stay right
there, you come in right away.

569
00:42:37.519 --> 00:43:45.079
Still still stays ssssts, don't do
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