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We have some new merch, specifically
a new shirt. Mary tell them how

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they can get it, what it's
all about, Why I want to see

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them wearing it when I see them
on the subway. We have several places

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where we have some cool pieces of
merch, but we have a new piece

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that was custom made for us that
I'm really I'm really excited about and I

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think people really like it. We
had an opportunity to have an artist make

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a piece for us, and we
had a brainstorm about places that it would

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be funny to see us in,
and ultimately we went with what would happen

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if the fire Escape cast was in
space? And the visual is really funny.

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It's kind of it's got like lots
of secrets if you look in it.

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Dan as usual is taking off his
helmet and trying to breathe. I

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am worried about you and trying to
get your hat back on your space hat

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as I call it, and Mike
don't tell I'll tell them that, Oh,

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okay, I'm there, Yes,
I'm there doing something. I'm trying

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to help it farry. It's a
it's a very cheeky design and it's also

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done in the colors of our logo. I think it's quite stylish. It

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will look really good on a lot
of different shirts, sweaters, you name

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it. So we're releasing this new, never before made print on a bunch

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of T shirts and sweaters as of
now. You can check it out.

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You can get it by I think
the best way to do this is go

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to our patreon. There will be
a new update for where you can go

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to it. If you don't want
to go to our patreon and you're fighting

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the powers that be, it's bonfire
is where we are keeping the shirt,

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so it's not where some of our
other swag is. But I would go

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to our patreon to get the link
and just check it out even if you

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don't get it. I think it's
a very funny shirt. It's it's absolutely

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worth looking at. It's it's very
funny. I like it. Our socials

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we will put out TWEETE check that
out our patriot you can get to just

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go to firescapecast dot com is the
easiest way to get there. Is this

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the beginning? Yes? No,
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sure yeah, Hey everybody, welcome
to Firescape episode sixty three. It's Monday,

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September eleventh, and we are here
Uh, it is unfortunately a very

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somber affair. We're hosting the funeral
for Bob Barker and Terry Funk and we

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fucking any humans, any humans,
this whole name, and we killed a

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few people last episode. Uh.
We also and it's it's not this actually

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is not funny, not that the
other two were. It's it sucks when

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people die. But they were old. I think they were both very old.

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Yes, I talked a lot about
Shadow Gambit, the Curse Crew and

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Memmi Games. Like days later,
maybe even before the episode went up,

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or several days after announced that they
were They themselves were closing the studio because

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it was just getting their mental health. So that's good. It was good

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for them. Love to hear Mike
at a eulogy. It sucks when you

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die. But they were really old. Yeah, so it's really not sad.

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I guess that's what's gonna happen when
you look up a list of the

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peties. But I think did it
start with Terry Funk and me being like,

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he's the coolest old guy. Who
are guys? And we named I'm

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not even gonna say the director of
Halloween and the thing, because that's what

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brought it up. Mary and I
were talking about the thing, and then

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you mentioned it was John Carpenter if
he dies. I sort of got of

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John Carpenter died before and you you
looked up the list of the oldest living

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celebrities, and I guess it's bound
to happen. Like if you were to

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read off some names on that list
right now, they'll I by the time

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this episode published. Name five.
Yeah, Okay, this is like death

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note the podcast Celebrities. I just
want to see. Let's don't have this

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power. Okay, Bob Barker lived
a long life. It's not tragic except

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for his family and friends. All
Right, So I'm just gonna name things.

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Wait, why is Tony Bennett on
here? He already died. Yeah,

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he dies? This is this is
is? This is this an AI

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list? Okay, I'm gonna go
to listwire. They've never been wrong.

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I don't know what that is.
Okay, I'm gonna name mel Brooks.

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Everyone knows Blazing Saddles and young.
He's immortal, he'll never die, He'll

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be pl Brooks. He's just bray. He's got to do History of the

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World Part two before he dies.
It's still coming. What the fuck is

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Shecky Green? We got I don't
know. Jean Shallott all right, Jean

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Shallott's alive. Great, Jimmy Carter's
alive. Oh yeah, he's the one.

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He's he's. We're waiting for David
Attenborough. I think we said to

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him last time he might be good
dead. Yeah, he's he's a survivor,

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he's been out in the wild.
Henry kissing her doesn't look a day

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over one hundred and two. Oh
yeah, that's fine, move on from

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him. Okay, we name some
names and hopefully none of them die.

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Yeah, let's shall we break this
curse? Are we like? Let's oh,

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let's name but we actually murder people
on the show. Let's be a

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bit more optimistic. Let's name someone
that hasn't been born yet. Charboro.

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That's way darker. Hang on in
the womb, that's really dark. We

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should do this Alan Borough, Charbora
Attenborough, Alan Borough, Cluster, Mick

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Faddington, thornbore cast s or these
are all European chud fuggers. There's got

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to be some wombs opening right now
with those names. Fuck, that's the

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weirdest way to put that. I
don't think that's how the anatomy works,

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but it's like a holding chamber,
right, It's like the garage, right,

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Yeah, that's that's where the mechanics
are tweaking the baby before they push

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him out on the street. Every
fifteen seconds a baby is born, but

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it is extraordinarily rare for them to
be named chud Fuggers. One wonders how

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many times it's happened. It's through
Starfield character Mike Mary, how are things

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going in Bikini Bottom. I'm in
the Twitch office and this is one of

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our streaming rooms and it's got like
like a Twitch streaming chair and a pineapple

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with a door and a window in
a porthole. So who was it?

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Four? Typically, like if the
streaming room is that, if like Ninja

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is coming by, you just PLoP
them in there and let them go.

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Yeah, this is where we put
Ninja. I would say, this is

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where we put anyone who's visiting our
offices that streams, Yes, and that

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include staff, because there are several
staff that stream regularly, including our new

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CEO who like started streaming a lot, so he streams out of this room

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too. Okay, Yeah, it's
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of maybe I've worked here for so
long now I'm very adjusted to it.

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We also have five five rooms,
and they have seating, so you could

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battle someone in an arena irl and
like look at them through the window while

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you're like fighting them, and then
there's like people who can watch you guys

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all play. It sounds like a
lot of like QA rooms I've been in

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where it's just like, Okay,
we're testing those new Gears of War multiplayer

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mode. It's five on five and
so like we've got these two rows of

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seats basically, and like that is
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remember this is a while ago because
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but I remember seeing a bunch of
people who were competing in a Rocket

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League Turney, and they were practicing
before their big game, and so they

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were in the office like buttoning up
their strats, like talking to hype each

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other up, like getting excited about
their players in the office. I thought

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that was pretty neat. So we
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esports players. My dad's stock thing. Whenever the stuff like this comes up

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it's like, oh yeah, we
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just the esports testing arenas at at
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Game in Former and saw like a
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oh yeah, we got these all
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good bit. That's something I would
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for like, oh yeah we got
we got five, we got Oculus,

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we got PSVR at the post office. That's a you got a pineapple.

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I don't think so these things are
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Like this week, I've been buying
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It's how excited you are to announce
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for our whole lives. Costco now
and Costco. It's like, here's just

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a barrel of grapes or strawberries or
whatever for five bucks. It's like,

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wait, I'd be a fool not
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and normally I'd grab just a bunch
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that, and now I'm snacking on
fruits and it's like this is like legitimately,

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it's not like I'm you know,
plug your nose and take the medicine

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down? Y, Can I ask
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I got I've got a prompt for
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is is Dan, you're not the
biggest chef that I know. When you

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eat fruit, would you opt for
a fruit that requires no cutting, like

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a grape or do you actually go
for the pineapple that requires quite the like

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slicing and diyson in order to enjoy
it. If I bought a pineapple and

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you sat me down in the kitchen
of a world class restaurant, there's no

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way I make it out of there
with edible pineapple. Okay, if you're

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with all the tools in the world
surrounding me, there's no way I'm going

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to figure out how to get inside
that. I think. I don't think

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that's true. I think there's plenty
of nine lives that would help you get

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into it. I mean, but
that outside seems really tough. So to

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answer the question, I buy it. It's all chopped up. You buy

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it when it's I understand what you're
saying. So you're not dealing with a

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whole pineapple in any scenario. No, but grapes are you know, they

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come in the whole. There's just
the whole bunch of them, and you

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got to take all the stuff out. And sometimes if you don't take the

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thing off all the way, you
gotta like take a little top of it

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off. So I'm figuring I got
that, are you? Are you just

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describing the process of pulling a grape
off its vine correct and strawberries. You

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got not eat the green part of
the strawberry. So I'm, you know,

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poking my way around that and doing
it well. So yeah, you're

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okay, Well on the optimistic side, I guess you're working your way toward

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a pineapple. I'm eating pineapple.
I'm just not doing the way I could

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show you pineapple. It's easy.
You just need a sharp knife. Yeah,

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you cut, you cut the top
and the bottom, and then from

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there you can do like abide.
Yeah, oh there's a whole there's a

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whole tube on the inside that you
don't want, you know, like an

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apple, but like as why does
it apple? But in a pineapple?

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I get freaked that one because like
I feel like the ones that taste the

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best are the ones that are just
like saturated ass, you know, like

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just yellow as the as the sun. So it's like sometimes you'll see them

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some that's just like barely even yellow. It's just like white, and it

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tastes weird, and like I don't
know if that's like that weird, Like

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cheese crust you're not supposed to eat
or it'll kill you. Like so I

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don't eat the white the ones that
are super yellow. You use this comparison

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every time, what cheese crust I
think it's called I think it's brit and

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it tastes good. You can crust. I've eaten so much brief crust all

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the time. It doesn't kill me. It's delicious. I'm not taking chances.

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Okay, the yellower the fruit,
the sweeter the juices. As they

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say, pineapple, absolutely, yeah, I guess is white pineapple under rip

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or over ripe? I guess I
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it's tougher, and you probably like
it sweet. I've always struggled with the

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word ripe, because ripe I always
thought was this is ready to eat,

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This is good, This banana's ripe. You can eat it. But then

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like you hear people say it in
terms of like stinkiness and stuff it's always

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like, oh that is right,
like it's a bad thing. So that's

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very confused. I don't know.
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that word grosses me out. I
don't I don't like hearing that someone's ripe,

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and I don't know how that what
the origin of that phrase is.

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But ripe with fruit means it's it's
ready to eat. Under ripe usually is

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like it's tough or it's tart.
Uh. It means it needs more time

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on the vine or on the stem. If it's a banana overripe, it's

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like brown bananas over okay, r
right, So like right right, banana

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is perfect. It means it's like
prime. Okay, uh, but they're

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yeah, but they are like some
wines that use under ripe grapes, So

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like it's not always a bad thing. But generally speaking, if you want

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to bite into a fruit, you
want it to be ripe. Is it

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perfect? It's the gold the most
like overripe grape. No raisins are dehydrated

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grapes. That's a whole separate thing. Yeah, okay, an overripe grape

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would be like wilted and moldy and
smoke gross. Okay, Yeah, ice

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wine is grapes that are past their
prime because they're sweeter. Yeah, it's

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all the Yeah, ice wine.
So it's wine that's like really sweet.

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A lot of people call it dessert
wine. Oh yeah German. But also

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many of them are harvested while they're
actually still frozen, which crystallizes the sugar

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inside, so then it traps the
sugar further, adding to a merry said,

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which then you put you can actually
like harvest it and it's a but

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yeah, you wouldn't want to be
like drinking a bottle of dessert wine randomly.

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It definitely gets sick. It's sweet, it's it's they're very sweet,

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like really good ones like diverse demeaners
German ones, or like ports if you've

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had port before, it's Portuguese dessert
wine for the most part. Yeah,

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I want to get better about being
able to drink wine without having to commit

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to an entire bottle because it's like
Bonk isn't a big drinker, and like,

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you know, a bottle of wine, like I can do it and

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it's not gonna kill me. But
it's like, I don't know, hangovers

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aren't getting any easier as I get
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plastic cork in there it still have
the metal ones. Like yeah, I

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will say if you want to do
that. White wines are easier to cork

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and save for like the next day
or two. Red wines. Red wines

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technically speak. And I'm saying this
like again, I'm the first person to

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tell you some of my favorite bottles
of wine or like twelve bucks, Like,

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you don't need to be spending a
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when you get into a certain like
price range with the right grape,

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with the right age, you've got
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you're kind of like that is why. That's when wine is a group a

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group like social thing. I'll hold
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I don't give a shit, right, but like on that sixth day you've

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had that wine. If it was
red, it probably tasted a bit vinegary.

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I'm assuming yeah. And it's again, if you're having like a twelve

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dollar bottle of wine, like no
harm, no foul, you could still

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enjoy it in its own way when
it's there. But like again, when

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when you're like invested in a wine, you're supposed to drink it in like

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a sitting. But again, Dan, i'd say, like white wines are

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easier to have like a glass or
two before finishing about I don't know if

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you'd like white wines. Yeah,
it's all fine to me. If you

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have to have a wine, I
don't like, that's good I could do,

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you know, like generally speaking,
like and you don't have to use

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like the dumb like I shouldn't say
dumb. You don't have to use like

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tasting notes that I think you perceive
as like wine tasting notes. But if

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when you drink wine that you have
any of them stood out to you that

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you really like, and if every
single one of them when I was trying

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to use that app every single one
of them was a four out of five

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and the notes were that it tasted
like wine and it was good. Yeah,

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I'm trying to get better about it. Like you told me Mike about

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like, oh, the right way
to drink wines, like you open your

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mind, like I look like a
drink wine now because I'm going I mean,

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I'm like trying to like open my
mouth and breathe in while I'm pouring.

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It's just like that's how you that's
what you taught him right, I

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told him to do kind of lingus
on the glass of wine. I know,

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I don't okay, I had to
buy special glasses. Would you be

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open at some point to me,
like showing you like a non douchey,

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like, hey, here's a really
good wine that I would embrace that I

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would love that. Yeah, it's
yeah, I mean it's it's easier when

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you sip it because then you can
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But like, and you don't have
to, like you could just enjoy wine

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as you're enjoying it. If you're
enjoying it, who the fuck am I

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to say, like, there's no
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so you taste more of the wine. But in general, if you're enjoying

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it, then I'm not going to
stop you from enjoying it because that's great.

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It's gonna taste winier. Though it's
not like he's gonna be like,

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now I taste the notes. Oh
that's not true. I think I think

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like Dan, I think if you
put, if you like, thought as

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much about the wine you're tasting as
you have about the different taco bell dishes,

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which I think like clearly you could. But but you but you gotta

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keep in mind, like I still
I mean it when I say I can't

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tell the difference between coke diet coke
pepsi and dipepsie or damping free diapepsi,

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Like I can't tell the fucking difference. Like Okay, I've never told the

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difference between need diet drink and it's
full of sugar counterpart or the high V

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brand price Chopper brand thing or the
real you know, doctor Thunder or doctor

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Pepper, like it all tastes exact, saying okay, well, every every

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beer, every beers are in a
cuesadilla chee cheese and tortilla. Yeah tang

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if that tang? Yeah? What
what else? Tell give me more like

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open your mouth when you eat it
next time and tell me like what you

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flavor that's a bite? Yeah?
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if you are telling the difference between
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you're chewing, and that's that you're
getting more action in your mouth. You're

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tasting different things. So maybe that's
and I'm not again if it like you

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don't need to be tasting the difference
between coke and wine. Shit, I

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wish I could. I genuinely think
that. I don't know if I'm just

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this way or if I like nuked
my taste buds and stuff as a kid,

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grown up and only eating the most
chemically staturated, you know, crazy

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sodium foods on the planet. But
you know, I don't smell well when

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I mean I I smell good.
But when I smell, you know,

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with my nose, I walk in
and bonk would be like, I mean,

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the candle smells so good, and
I'll be like, I can't tell

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you have said this. That's like, I think it's an actual thing with

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it. Yeah, you might just
not. I don't know. It might.

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It might be a a thing,
which is that's fine. If you're

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still liking wine, you're still liking
all these sodas, and you're still liking

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this food, then go for it. That's awesome. Drunk. Yeah,

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that's a different way to do that. Yeah, it's you. You texted

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me early on when you were starting
wine and you're like, oh shit,

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you're right. It is a different
drunk when you're drinking wine. It is.

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To me, it's more relaxed.
I get more. I think I

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get better at speaking to people and
socializing. Very's like, you become a

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monster. You think you think I've
become very intellectual on wine. Well,

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in case some point, I've been
drinking wine all night before you guys,

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I'm just fucking what's his name lurch
from. It's become a monster. I

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just had a mama back and then
the next day you're like, what an

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incredible Bordeaux that Wasn't I gonna taste
it until the next day when I'm fucking

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vomiting it back up. A little
grimlin comes out when we I am no

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good on wine because the sugar makes
me like angry. I have no good

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on wine but alcohol. I've seen
you drunk on everything, and you usually

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start fights with Jersey moms in the
back. I'm a delightful drunk. How

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dare you? I'll kill you.
I was you don't know I was taking

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a dope. You beat on it? She I did beat you. She

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opened the door. She picked the
lock and opened the door. Fucking Starfield,

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Starfield yours? Yeah, she she
and then and she was pretty drunk

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too, And when I was like, what are you doing? And she

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was like, what, what's your
problem? And I was like I've been

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so clear about this. I've been
so clear about my active pooping. I

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like that we both Dan and I
both revised the story to you pooping and

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not just like in my head every
time it's sitting equals pooping. But I

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guess for ladies it's you could also
be being But in my head you are

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pooping. Yes, there's different folds
involved down there. This istor Oh yeah,

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I'm I'm an obgin or whatever it
is. Yeah, you know again,

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as they say, sorry us in
the women's world, ob g.

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I n doctors call it obgin as
it's an inside It's okay, Yeah,

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I know. I I to Mary's
point. Maybe I just think I get

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more social and better at speaking when
I'm drinking wine. But overall I can

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say with a certainty that I am
more relaxed on drinking whine. It's beer

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that I get more energy, like
a bad energy sometimes. Uh like clear

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liquors, I'm I'm pretty middle of
the road. Brown liquors, I'm like,

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I don't know where I stand as
much with brown liquors. And it's

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been a while since I got like
drunk drunk on brown liquors. I was

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like eight years ago. But I
feel like I act the same on any

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kind of liquor if I'm drunk,
you know, like I think I'm just

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always just loud and goofy and happy. I've never been angry, gotten in

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a fight or things like that he
took a he took a shot of gin

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and then killed that guy. Though, well, okay, there's there's Barker

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had a comment that's right. I
had to prove a point about it,

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Disco, No, I like it. One thing I like about wine,

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though, is the idea of like
it seems like the most sip friendly thing,

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and like as I get older,
I am trying to like it's silly.

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At almost forty, I'm still trying
to figure this out. But like

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I want to avoid hangovers at all
costs, just because it's just like it

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drinks, like not like physically the
stomach stuff, that's fine, the poop

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and stuff whatever. I can deal
with that all day. But it's it's

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the like it's the weird anxiety and
like mental Like some people I know get

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this harder than others, Like I
get it so fucking hard. And as

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I get older, if I like
drunk drunk, I will the whole next

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day at least it is like this
weird dread hanging over me. Yeah,

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oh, in serious anxiety when there's
no reason for it, even if I'm

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just at home doing nothing. So
it's like I am trying to like figure

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out, like I like drinking.
I don't think I'm at a point where

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I just want to like stop drinking, but the idea of like sipping on

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something or you know, just making
little tweaks and stuff to like avoid those

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hanger out there's the obviously I've drink
more water stuff like that. But I'm

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doing the thing now where I'm trying
to not ever like go to bed drunk

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because I think sleep has so much
to do with like just how you feel

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the next day. So I'm trying
to like cut things off a couple hours

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before bed, and that seems to
help. So I don't know, I'm

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trying to kind of like dial that
in, and wine seems like it would

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help for that. Yeah, Like
right now, lately, I've we've been

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traveling so much and busy with work
that definitely drank less. And it's just

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like it's also a long term thing, like it builds, like if you're

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drunk several days in a row,
it's going to compile. If you're sober

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several, like several weeks in a
row, that compiles two to the point

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where like three weeks later you're feeling
like fucking a million dollars, Like I'm

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not anxious. I mean maybe,
like not that anxiety is solely tied to

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alcohol, but it's like it doesn't
help. It's like, oh my god,

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I'm waking up feeling rested. I'm
getting shit done. Sometimes I'm like

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productive as hell by the time like
four pm rolls around, like oh this

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is great. Like but yeah,
I like wine for that purpose as well.

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And a lot of like teachers that
I had back in the day,

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or like people that I know that
are super into are like often it's very

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many like somalias or just beverage managers
or restaurants or bartender think of wine as

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more of a condiment to the food
you're eating, Like you go to the

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you go to certain restaurants, or
you go to like high end restaurants or

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not even high end, but just
people who like really enjoy wine. It's

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it's more about what it pairs with
and it's so you're eating with it every

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time. You're not really like drinking
the bottle of wine to get drunk,

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unless if you really really enjoy a
wine or whatever, and you're just want

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the whole bottle like more power too. You go for it if you're loving

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it. But like often, like
you're having like Thanksgiving turkey, you have

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a really good Bojelais with it.
It's the interplay between them and one like

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it's fascinating, it's fucking crazy.
Like what kind of wine would you pair

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with a chili dog? Oo a
chili dog, assuming there's like human and

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a chili dog. I think the
human would be a bit spicy. So

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you want to kind of like level
that out a bit. You don't want

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like a cab or a sharas or
a sara. You don't want something to

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add the spiciness, maybe like a
honestly, like a Bojelais or a pinot

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noir, something a bit more mild. That's gonna level that out parwell with

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it. You want to compliment it. But it's funny. It's like certain

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like when you're eating cheese, you
swallow it. Okay, let's use bree

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as an example. Again, you're
eating bree. That's going to even once

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you swallow that bite the fat is
going to coat your tongue a bit.

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The fat, even if you like
rinsed out, there's gonna be fat and

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oils on your tongue from the bree
that pairs well with certain wines, like

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a like a Shennon blanc. Like
the fat in on your tongue will react

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with the wine in a way that
actually makes both taste better. That's when

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people say that something pairs well with
another. Sure, it's about like complimenting

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something. In some cases, it's
almost like color theory. It's like you

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want to compliment certain colors. You
want to be the opposite of that,

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you want to kind of amplify others. But you're eating like a certain cheese,

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The fat's gonna cut your tongue.
And then also this cheese, like

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a Gouda, is a bit more
well nacho cheese with nachos brito's Actually,

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Mary, I think this is a
well would pair well with the burrito is

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a good question. How what kind
of are we talking? More like a

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nacho cheese, nacho cheese rice?
What kind of meat? Uh? I

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would say ground chuck. Honestly,
go with like a schennon blanc. You

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can't go wrong. I'm not kidding. Okay, what okay, believe would

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you too believe me if I told
you there salsa? Oh yeah, I

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think there would be like some guak
in the pockets pocket walk, you know,

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and you can like dip it if
you want it, but if you're

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like not into it, you can
just avoid it. Okay, this is

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not a joke. Amanda. The
white wine she's into lately. They're Bordeau

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blancs, which have I should you
not like, slight hints of halopano and

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green peppers. I think a Bordeau
blanc like a Chardona, would go really

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well with that burrito you just described. And I think you would enjoy the

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wine and the burrito more by pairing
them together. I would love. That's

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what's fun. Sounds awesome, people, okay, people like Honestly, my

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favorite wine pairing is sour sour what
the fuck are they called sour patch kids?

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Watermelons with a Savinon blanc. You
don't have to be pairing like fucking

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you don't have to be pairing like
like a Chateaubriyon with wine. It can

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00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:06,880
be gummy candy. Amanda and I
like one of our favorite white wine pairings

402
00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:11,319
is gummy candy and a Salvion Blanc
because the tartness and the Salvion blanc and

403
00:27:11,599 --> 00:27:15,279
Savion blancs often are tart up front
and then they kind of level out from

404
00:27:15,279 --> 00:27:18,240
those tannons or not tannons though.
The the the acidity, that's the same

405
00:27:18,279 --> 00:27:21,960
fucking thing that sour patch kids do. And you eat those with each other.

406
00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:25,359
Oh my god, that's your Sunday
afternoon right there. Somebody has to

407
00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:26,759
have already done that YouTube channel,
right they're like, oh, it's the

408
00:27:26,759 --> 00:27:30,960
blue collar wine pairing there. Oh
yeah, there is no fuck. New

409
00:27:30,039 --> 00:27:34,519
York Magazine does like the the average
joe like whatever you will call them pairings

410
00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:41,359
because somebody people like, that's what
gets That's what got my cousin in wine.

411
00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:42,799
He's like, yeah, I always
assume, like if I depare something,

412
00:27:42,799 --> 00:27:45,960
you'd be like a camera bearer.
And I was like, no,

413
00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:48,440
you can. You can pringles.
Go get a fucking crunch rap supreme,

414
00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:55,480
grab a Bojelais with it. You'll
they'll both be better. It's awesome again,

415
00:27:55,599 --> 00:27:57,279
Like you can get a good wine
for like nine dollars for the bottle,

416
00:27:57,680 --> 00:28:00,960
Like that sounds more fun than mean. Now, this makes me sound

417
00:28:00,039 --> 00:28:03,000
so old and lame, But like
the idea of going out with you guys

418
00:28:03,039 --> 00:28:07,200
and we're pairing like wines with goods
and stuff like that, and just sipping

419
00:28:07,279 --> 00:28:10,119
and stuff like that sounds cooler to
me than go into like a loud bar

420
00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:12,359
and slamming beers and stuff. I
know a wine bar that's b y O

421
00:28:12,599 --> 00:28:19,279
food and we could do that.
We order, we order like Uber eats

422
00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:22,720
to this bar, and it's a
wine bar, and you can bring whatever

423
00:28:22,759 --> 00:28:25,599
you want. They're not going to
tell you not to bring taco bell in.

424
00:28:26,039 --> 00:28:27,920
Well, I'm ordering Uber Eats to
your wedding. I don't give a

425
00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:32,680
shit to it. I don't think
I'm gonna bring I'm gonna bring gummy worms

426
00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:37,759
and drink all your wine cheese in
my time when I officiate your wedding.

427
00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:41,400
If people listening have not done like
gummy candy specifically, whether you want to

428
00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:45,160
be like gummy bears, those go
well with something like a Salvina blanc or

429
00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:49,359
like a Chevli, which is just
more chardone. But if you get like

430
00:28:49,559 --> 00:28:55,359
sar Patch watermelons or just sur patch
kids, go get like an eight dollar

431
00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:57,319
bottle of Salvinia blanc. I don't
care how shitty the Salvenion blanc is.

432
00:28:57,400 --> 00:29:00,559
You do not need to spend money
pairless together. Tell me it's not just

433
00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:04,440
fucking send us your best pairings.
I want to know. Yeah, this

434
00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:07,640
is actually really fun for me.
I want to know people's like unusual pairings,

435
00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:11,440
because you could do a good pairing
for like twenty bucks. Tell us

436
00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:15,640
your weird pairings, your little freaks, Yeah, fucking psychos, you little

437
00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:26,960
fucking dipshits. You fucking say at
that push pop and tequila. I want

438
00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:32,319
to know what would Yeah, I'm
trying to think, what's uh, what's

439
00:29:32,359 --> 00:29:41,279
okay, Mary? What is your
favorite junk food candy? Anything candy?

440
00:29:41,599 --> 00:29:44,200
Like, I guess junk food's obviously
a flexible term, but like, what's

441
00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:48,559
yours with no nutritional value? Yeah? What's your favorite low brow snack?

442
00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:56,640
I like cool ranch toritos a lot? Okay, I'm a cool ranch girl.

443
00:29:56,599 --> 00:30:00,440
Okay, the right choice so off
that I would say, you probably

444
00:30:00,519 --> 00:30:06,000
don't want a super acidic wine because
that is just going to kind of build

445
00:30:06,039 --> 00:30:11,319
on the doritos. Honestly, you
could probably pair a good red wine with

446
00:30:11,359 --> 00:30:17,079
that. I'm gonna I'm gonna go
out on a limb and say, if

447
00:30:17,079 --> 00:30:21,759
you want get a fat bag of
cool ranch Doritos, open that ship up

448
00:30:21,799 --> 00:30:26,279
in hell it's bouquet, enjoy it, and then also open up like,

449
00:30:26,519 --> 00:30:30,920
honestly, a mailback is pretty pretty
smooth. That would go well with that.

450
00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:34,920
The fruitiness of the mailback would compliment
the spicy kind of like a more

451
00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:38,279
creamy sour cream of the cool ranch
Toritos. That sounds really fucking good.

452
00:30:38,319 --> 00:30:44,039
I'm okay, I think I like
mailbacks. Yeah, do that cool range

453
00:30:44,119 --> 00:30:47,119
tritos. All right, that's in
my house right now. Do that?

454
00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:52,319
Try that right, poor a glass
later or tomorrow or something or this weekend,

455
00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:56,759
and then just house a bag of
Doritos while you're occasionally sipping on it,

456
00:30:56,839 --> 00:30:59,680
you know, like you don't need
them obviously, both in your mouth

457
00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:03,519
the same. You don't want to
speak for yourself. I'm in the Midwest.

458
00:31:03,519 --> 00:31:04,759
That's how we do things here.
Yeah, I know you're back in

459
00:31:04,799 --> 00:31:08,279
the Heartland, and try that out. I think that'd be good. I'll

460
00:31:08,279 --> 00:31:14,599
try it anyway. You're right about
the compounding thing when you were talking about

461
00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:18,160
like good decisions too, because like
ever since I moved, I was like,

462
00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:22,400
okay, I'm gonna get really serious
about like being healthier and active and

463
00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:25,559
stuff and that, like, without
fail, every single day I've been like

464
00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:29,240
working out, riding my bike,
I've been fucking getting my stepson and shit,

465
00:31:29,279 --> 00:31:33,599
I've been eaten way better. And
it's it's amazing how quickly things can

466
00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:36,880
kind of turn around, because like
specifically coming back from Belgium, Jack Decker

467
00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:38,880
can tell you when I was,
I hurt myself before I got on the

468
00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:42,880
plane, just showering and I could
barely walk through the fucking airport. It

469
00:31:44,039 --> 00:31:47,720
sucked. And then that long ass
uh fight back my yeah, my lower

470
00:31:47,759 --> 00:31:49,680
back which is in a real bad
spot, and I just put on so

471
00:31:49,759 --> 00:31:52,079
much wait over the last several months, I'm moving and all that stuff,

472
00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:56,759
and god damn if like two months
since then of just being diligent about it,

473
00:31:56,759 --> 00:32:00,519
and I feel a million times better? Are you Dan? It feels

474
00:32:00,519 --> 00:32:04,119
awesome, It really does, thank
you. It's uh so yeah, it's

475
00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:06,200
like that. That's the thing.
It's like, look, I love junk

476
00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:07,839
food and I love drinking and stuff, but it's like if you've done three

477
00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:10,799
or four days in a row like
you haven't drink and even working out every

478
00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:15,640
day and everything, and then it's
like I don't know do I want to

479
00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:16,559
like, Okay, maybe I gonna
have a couple of drinks here, but

480
00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:21,200
or like maybe I don't get you
know this garbage dinner or something like that.

481
00:32:21,279 --> 00:32:23,200
It's it's it makes it harder to
make the bad decisions if you're making

482
00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:25,799
a bunch of good decisions. You
know, I think you're right and you're

483
00:32:25,839 --> 00:32:30,640
on the right path. And I
have absolutely not done your advice. And

484
00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:36,319
I've gotten so drunk these last right
days. I've been drunk, But yeah,

485
00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:38,559
I'm gonna make good decisions that work
on the drinking. I've been in

486
00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:45,400
San Francisco for work and so like, I'm catching up with so many old

487
00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:47,880
games media pals, right I've been. I saw a bunch of people from

488
00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:53,279
IGN Game Spot, the kind of
funny fam, some Polygon peeps. It

489
00:32:53,359 --> 00:32:57,960
was awesome, And of course,
like that just meant that I was in

490
00:32:58,119 --> 00:33:00,960
bars really late, and I was
out into like one am last night,

491
00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:07,000
which isn't that late, but for
me in my work, waking up at

492
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:08,839
like seven this morning, I was
like, I can't, can I do

493
00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:14,839
this anymore? I felt so crusty. I just felt broken. I had

494
00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:19,119
very conflicting feelings seeing the photos from
Packs and everything, because like the whole

495
00:33:19,119 --> 00:33:21,559
Giant Bomb crew was there. I
saw you with them. Well, I

496
00:33:21,759 --> 00:33:24,759
drank a lot of joy, like
late night photos and stuff on Instagram.

497
00:33:24,799 --> 00:33:28,480
People were like texting me photos and
I was like, that's Sunday. I

498
00:33:28,519 --> 00:33:30,359
was like, man, I'm so
so much like FOMO. I wish I

499
00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:32,920
was there. But at the same
time, I also like did a four

500
00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:36,960
hour bike ride that day, and
I was feeling like top of the world,

501
00:33:37,039 --> 00:33:38,480
and I was like, I bet
I wouldn't feel as good if I

502
00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:42,119
had gone to Packs, but it
would have been really fun. So it's

503
00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:45,839
just like the fucking balancing act is
insane. That's the thing about exercise.

504
00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:49,680
It's good for you, but it
doesn't cause FOMO. Like, no one's

505
00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:52,000
like I really wish I did Dan's
four hour bike ride. We don't know

506
00:33:52,119 --> 00:33:55,799
about that, but you absolutely saw
me at a bar with twenty other really

507
00:33:55,839 --> 00:34:00,480
cool people and went, damn,
that looks like fun. I think you're

508
00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:05,960
in a good path, but holy
shit, like Packs is back last year

509
00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:07,920
I went to Packs and everybody was
wearing masks because it was still we weren't

510
00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:13,559
really there yet as a society or
like mentally, this year. People were

511
00:34:13,599 --> 00:34:16,559
coming out of the woodwork. Everyone
was having a really good time. Drinks

512
00:34:16,559 --> 00:34:22,159
were being purchased left and right for
friends and faces that you haven't seen in

513
00:34:22,199 --> 00:34:27,480
a really long time. It was
good, and morale was just like really

514
00:34:27,559 --> 00:34:30,960
positive. Everyone was just stoked to
see each other. It was a really

515
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:35,960
exciting time to be back, and
it makes me excited for the next convention

516
00:34:36,039 --> 00:34:39,079
again. Maybe we're back to conventions
now. Maybe Game Awards the next time

517
00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:43,760
I should be. I'm hoping,
are you I assume you guys were gone.

518
00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:45,400
That was last time we did a
reunion. It was super fun.

519
00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:51,320
I'm hoping. Not sure yet.
We will see. We gotta figure out

520
00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:53,559
what we're doing Game of the Year, because there's that going on. There's

521
00:34:53,639 --> 00:34:58,360
I got two trips already booked in
December and a possible third. They might

522
00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:02,519
have to like do December two already
in December, oh for Christmas Game Awards,

523
00:35:02,599 --> 00:35:07,039
and one other one that's kind of
floating around. So yeah, well

524
00:35:07,679 --> 00:35:13,559
we'll figure it out. Yeah,
I'm I'm obviously Game Awards is work related,

525
00:35:13,679 --> 00:35:16,320
but at this point, I'm just
I'm getting into October and then I'm

526
00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:22,159
gonna reassess after that. Once things
are calmed down in my personal life already.

527
00:35:22,199 --> 00:35:25,719
I guess you guys are coming to
all a lot of that. But

528
00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:34,320
yeah, it's well two things Mary
that you said. It's like a San

529
00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:37,840
Francisco is hard. It's it's a
boozy city. I think people associate.

530
00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:39,599
I think people who have never lived
there or have been there much associated with

531
00:35:39,639 --> 00:35:45,199
like health foods and like vegan living. But it's actually like a really like

532
00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:49,880
I've found a meat and potatoes and
booze city at least the parts I've seen.

533
00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:53,480
And it's hard, definitely not to
drink a decent amount when you're there.

534
00:35:53,639 --> 00:35:57,320
Once you live there, it's different
because it's your everyday life. But

535
00:35:57,360 --> 00:36:00,079
like when you're visiting, it's it
might as well be New York. It

536
00:36:00,159 --> 00:36:04,159
might as well be anywhere else you're
gonna be like having several of those nights

537
00:36:04,199 --> 00:36:07,400
in a row. Yeah, it's
a it's a bar situation, like that's

538
00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:09,920
where everybody does. As soon as
you leave work, It's like, what

539
00:36:10,039 --> 00:36:15,079
bar are we going to? It's
a huge culture here, especially for US

540
00:36:15,119 --> 00:36:21,159
games media people. I assume like
most of my memories of game Spot and

541
00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:24,400
really getting close with everyone I worked
with didn't happen in the office. It

542
00:36:24,559 --> 00:36:30,400
happened late nights in bars because you
would get done with work pretty late,

543
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:34,880
you're pretty tired, and we would
go to a bar and we would drink

544
00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:37,159
and we would like, I don't
know, get out our frustrations or like,

545
00:36:37,519 --> 00:36:43,119
you know, our worries. It's
a bit of a commune, a

546
00:36:43,159 --> 00:36:45,559
place for us to express ourselves,
and I think that was a part of

547
00:36:45,599 --> 00:36:49,000
like the whole deal. Yeah,
I was definitely jealous of you guys because

548
00:36:49,159 --> 00:36:52,159
there was so much just like late
night, like, oh, the ship's

549
00:36:52,199 --> 00:36:53,239
over, we're gonna play rocket Lag, We're all going out of the bars

550
00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:57,679
and on the other side of the
wall and Giant Bomb was very much not

551
00:36:57,760 --> 00:36:59,400
that like, oh, we're all
gonna go out of the bar, you

552
00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:01,159
know, dis like, well,
okay, you gotta drive back to Pedaluma.

553
00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:06,920
I would always assume that you guys
had this like amazing camaraderie, and

554
00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:08,559
you did. You were all very
caring and loving of each other. But

555
00:37:08,639 --> 00:37:13,639
you guys didn't rally like we did. We fucking got nasty. We were

556
00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:19,639
constantly like absolutely exhausted, like no
sleep when we're like we're going to fucking

557
00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:25,159
what is it. O'Brien's and just
and we're just fucking drinking pints together and

558
00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:30,719
we shouldn't be. It was filthy. We were just absolute dogs. Can

559
00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:32,800
you me of like when I was
a Game Informer, Like the Game Informer

560
00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:35,920
crew was like that, just like
that, you know, family, We're

561
00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:38,000
all going out and hanging out after
hours and stuff like it reminded me a

562
00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:43,519
lot of those years. For sure. That's jealous. I mean, every

563
00:37:43,519 --> 00:37:45,840
once in a while we still have
it. I felt like last night we

564
00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:47,400
were kind of getting into it a
little bit again, like people were getting

565
00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:52,519
weird, like drinks were getting spelled. It was funny to see like a

566
00:37:52,519 --> 00:37:55,079
lot of people still still at it, you know, like we I was

567
00:37:55,119 --> 00:37:59,800
like, we still got it.
We're still gross, Like we're still gross.

568
00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:07,119
I still I still remember the first
Like maybe granted this was I was

569
00:38:07,199 --> 00:38:13,199
quick on the draw and looking back, like I shouldn't have suggested this that

570
00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:17,800
early in my tenure at game Spot, but I remember not the first weekend,

571
00:38:19,039 --> 00:38:21,760
but the second weekend I had worked
at Game Spot. I was on

572
00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:24,960
the way out of the office on
a Thursday evening and I had sort of

573
00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:29,480
talked to Rob Hanley a couple of
times, like in the break room or

574
00:38:29,559 --> 00:38:34,039
like over like paid a beers or
something, and on the way out at

575
00:38:34,079 --> 00:38:38,280
like six thirty pm, which was
early for us at the time, I

576
00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:40,599
was like, Hey, let me
know if you guys do anything this weekend.

577
00:38:40,599 --> 00:38:44,400
I'd love to hang out. And
then I later came to find that

578
00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:46,920
Rob Hanley, who let me be
clear, is a great friend of mine

579
00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:52,320
now and I will, yeah,
wait until Wayne, until I'm off,

580
00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:57,320
I'll fucking lay into him. I
found out later that he's like, who

581
00:38:57,519 --> 00:39:00,960
fuck is this guy? He's like
Rob was, Rob's not I mean,

582
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:04,119
he's the nicest dude ever, and
he'll be he's extremely well, he's extremely

583
00:39:04,159 --> 00:39:07,159
welcoming. But like for me,
after you guys had formed all these bonds

584
00:39:07,199 --> 00:39:09,360
for me to come in after like
a week and a half of work and

585
00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:12,000
be like, let me go,
let me know what you guys are doing

586
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:14,480
this weekend. Of course I was. I was just trying to like be

587
00:39:14,599 --> 00:39:17,599
nice Rob. Of course Rob was
also subsequently like the next week one of

588
00:39:17,599 --> 00:39:20,960
the people who invited me out,
So no harm, no file. But

589
00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:23,079
I remember he was like he told
me later on He's like, yeah,

590
00:39:23,159 --> 00:39:27,760
dude, I was like, that
was pretty bold to like insert yourself.

591
00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:30,760
I was like, this is such
a click that I am not part of

592
00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:35,239
yet. But uh but once you
get in, it's okay. We just

593
00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:38,639
need to get through that initial You
gotta embarrass yourself in some way and then

594
00:39:38,679 --> 00:39:40,639
people will be like, all right, you're cool, You're one of us.

595
00:39:40,639 --> 00:39:43,360
Like Rob Hamley was the first one
to be like, hey, let's

596
00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:46,199
go out soon. That was easy
for us though in our professions, where

597
00:39:46,199 --> 00:39:51,199
it's like we were thrust into offices
filled with like people our age that all

598
00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:52,639
had the same interest. You know, we're all into video games. It's

599
00:39:52,639 --> 00:39:57,119
just like we're covering the same code. Were like, Yeah, I moved

600
00:39:57,119 --> 00:40:00,000
to Minnesota, didn't know a single
person. Oops, within like two week,

601
00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:01,159
I had a bunch of like friends
for life, you know, say

602
00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:05,480
like San Francisco, you guys go
there and oops, here's just a ton

603
00:40:05,519 --> 00:40:07,719
of people we know and like and
hang out with. You pulled up to

604
00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:10,119
pick me up and the headlights I
was shadow boxing when I was interning,

605
00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:15,000
And when you've blared the rocky music, I'm like, right. That was

606
00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:19,239
as as a twenty year old when
I first went to game for him,

607
00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:22,519
I was like, what do people
like that? I like? And then

608
00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:23,679
you and me start talking about Rocky. I was like, all right,

609
00:40:23,679 --> 00:40:28,320
he likes Rocky. That's when I'm
gonna start talking. And then a week

610
00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:30,440
later you pull up to pick me
up from the house I was living at,

611
00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:35,800
blaring uh no easy way out and
I'm just shadow boxing in the headlights

612
00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:37,920
for like thirty seconds for I get
in your car. It just ran you

613
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:43,800
over. Yeah, that we the
interns. I don't think we like Rocky.

614
00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:45,639
Yeah, and then you murder me. But you did not like when

615
00:40:45,679 --> 00:40:49,280
I told you I didn't. I
had never seen term he or two what

616
00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:51,840
we fixed it? We fixed it. I think we've three times in one

617
00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:54,880
night yea with Windwaker No. Yeah, Which is all to say that it

618
00:40:55,039 --> 00:41:00,320
was God what another life that was. I I definitely came in on the

619
00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:07,199
tal end, toward a talend of
like games journalism. Like you move to

620
00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:13,199
SF and you you like you,
you become friends, and then you're just

621
00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:15,519
living there and your whole life is
game journalism. I luckily that was never

622
00:41:15,559 --> 00:41:19,199
fully the case. I always had
some friends outside of it, so like

623
00:41:19,599 --> 00:41:22,679
to get away from it a bit. Not that I didn't like it,

624
00:41:22,119 --> 00:41:28,239
but it's just so hard to imagine
that being the case. Nowadays like going

625
00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:31,119
out to us to San Francisco and
then being like, all right, well

626
00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:37,320
let's go to Kates twice a week
and then we'll do payday beers one day

627
00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:43,679
and then Sunday you got, you
got. You gotta taper into the week

628
00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:46,920
on Sundays, So let's go out
on to Visidero and go to Surfbar and

629
00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:50,679
then we'll go up to the page
and then see what happens. Oh,

630
00:41:50,679 --> 00:41:53,360
I'm hung over on Monday now.
Uh so, now I gotta kind of

631
00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:57,920
like Hair of the Dog on Monday
at two pm. That's such a schedule

632
00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:02,440
for someone in their twenties though,
the first getting a can't Oh no no,

633
00:42:02,599 --> 00:42:06,440
it's like we're all scattered around the
tacks and season. You know,

634
00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:07,199
it's every once in a while,
you know, you go out and see

635
00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:12,000
a ton of people, but like
that like weekly cadence of like constantly going

636
00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:15,880
out and stuff. I could not
do it. Yeah, it builds up

637
00:42:15,079 --> 00:42:19,920
it. Uh, I'm I'll be
I'll be thirty two and eleven days of

638
00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:25,360
this episode going up. Yeah I
can't And that's my body doesn't like when

639
00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:30,840
I do that stuff anymore. Wait
until you're older. I'm trying to get

640
00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:35,639
ahead of it. Yeah, I'm
like taking the warning signs now doesn't get

641
00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:39,199
better. It's crazy how much it
accelerates. Like everyone, every older person

642
00:42:39,199 --> 00:42:42,239
always warns you about that, like, oh, I want you to hit

643
00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:45,119
my bra bra It's but then it's
like you actually hit that age and it's

644
00:42:45,119 --> 00:42:46,519
like, oh, this is what
they were talking about. Oh yeah,

645
00:42:46,639 --> 00:42:50,960
and myself showering and I didn't like
fall down or anything. You know,

646
00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:55,920
it's slightly in the drinking sense that
is slightly comforting to me to know that

647
00:42:57,519 --> 00:43:01,119
it will like almost I'll half too, and I already have, like the

648
00:43:01,159 --> 00:43:05,039
last three years, Like right before
I hit thirty, I was like,

649
00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:08,239
oh man, hangovers are a thing
now, Like I every once in a

650
00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:14,719
while you'll get that miraculous, miraculous
morning where you're like how did I avoid

651
00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:17,559
that? Other times? Yeah,
I don't. I don't think I'll have

652
00:43:17,639 --> 00:43:23,800
those much longer. And also like
lately, I've you know, just been

653
00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:30,599
not drinking as much and like again
trying to get into wine in the way

654
00:43:30,639 --> 00:43:32,719
that I am. It helps.
But yeah, that's not to say that

655
00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:36,800
if I had gone to packs last
weekend, I would not have been just

656
00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:38,760
like you all would have been hungover. Yeah, I would have been like

657
00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:43,639
leading the charge. You all would
have been sick, just like me.

658
00:43:44,079 --> 00:43:47,599
I think I'm in an era now
where I get really irritated when someone's like

659
00:43:49,039 --> 00:43:52,679
as an old person who's thirty one. I think that it's and I'm like,

660
00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:57,920
you, son of a bitch,
I'm winning, I'm old. I'm

661
00:43:57,920 --> 00:44:00,400
just saying I'm not saying you're doing
that. I'm I don't like people who

662
00:44:00,559 --> 00:44:06,719
do that. Don't take this personally, you child, you fucking fetus.

663
00:44:07,199 --> 00:44:14,719
I'm saying people after you drift,
I am not. I will fight you.

664
00:44:15,199 --> 00:44:19,280
Yeah, I think i'm young.
I just some dan play the box.

665
00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:24,599
Oh I don't. I just I
don't think I'm old. I should

666
00:44:24,639 --> 00:44:30,199
be saying I'm getting older. Who
everyone is, that's not special exactly,

667
00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:37,960
that's universal special. We're not talking
about you at all. We're not discussing

668
00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:40,840
you. I don't like he was
talking about me when I say I I

669
00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:45,599
am talking about me. Oh that's
what you've been meaning when you say I

670
00:44:45,599 --> 00:44:50,280
I hate this ship. I hate
I hate this fucking podcast, this really

671
00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:54,360
fucking show. I hate it.
Who are they talking about? Drinking?

672
00:44:58,559 --> 00:45:02,079
Sucks that we hold guns ever one
heads and making what's well, talk about

673
00:45:02,199 --> 00:45:10,559
drink, that's yeah, anything anything
else, pressing that we should bring up

674
00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:19,119
marassing, anything else. Mary,
I feel I feel like that was targeted

675
00:45:19,159 --> 00:45:25,360
at me. I said your name, so yeah, anything else. I'm

676
00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:28,239
really good, I'm really all right, sick. You guys want to talk

677
00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:32,800
about fucking video games? Sure,
I incensed him, alright, sick.

678
00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:38,000
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697
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698
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700
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00:49:37,679 --> 00:49:43,960
fifty. All right, we can
talk about Starfield finally. People will been

739
00:49:44,039 --> 00:49:50,920
playing it. Released to the general
public and on game Pass on September six,

740
00:49:51,039 --> 00:49:52,440
which is last week. If you're
listening to this now, if you

741
00:49:52,519 --> 00:49:55,199
pre ordered it, you had it
about a week before then. We've been

742
00:49:55,199 --> 00:50:00,639
playing it for probably a month at
this point, month ish. We've been

743
00:50:00,679 --> 00:50:07,079
alluding to it. I think we
have some pretty different opinions. I could

744
00:50:07,119 --> 00:50:10,119
be wrong. I don't know.
Maybe we even know. Okay, So

745
00:50:10,719 --> 00:50:15,239
Dan, let me go to you
because we talked off Mike last week or

746
00:50:15,280 --> 00:50:19,679
sorry, a couple of weeks ago
about it, and I think you were

747
00:50:19,800 --> 00:50:22,599
enjoying it a bit more than I
was. To spoil a bit, but

748
00:50:22,679 --> 00:50:25,400
I'm curious at the beginning, I
was really enjoying it quite a bit.

749
00:50:27,679 --> 00:50:30,480
I was. You know, I'm
normally get turned off by you know,

750
00:50:30,760 --> 00:50:32,679
talkie dialogue, heavy games and stuff
like that, but I really was kind

751
00:50:32,679 --> 00:50:36,920
of enjoying, just kind of like
landing it. Oh, I'm in Neon

752
00:50:37,079 --> 00:50:38,440
there now I'm at the New Atlantis. I'm just going to talk to people

753
00:50:38,480 --> 00:50:40,199
and like, oh, like those
are my favorite things, where like I

754
00:50:40,199 --> 00:50:44,159
started talking to a bartender or something, and suddenly they've got this question like,

755
00:50:44,199 --> 00:50:45,000
hey, could he break into this
place and get this thing for me?

756
00:50:45,079 --> 00:50:47,480
Like I like doing that shit.
It was like when I was doing

757
00:50:47,519 --> 00:50:51,800
like constellation stuff at the lodge and
everything, I was kind of getting like

758
00:50:51,840 --> 00:50:53,960
I was never like super bored,
but I was also not super engaged.

759
00:50:54,280 --> 00:50:57,880
I like the side weird shit and
just seeing what kind of trouble I could

760
00:50:57,880 --> 00:51:00,519
get into, and also playing it
ferently than I normally play these type of

761
00:51:00,559 --> 00:51:04,400
games, because in the past I've
just been idiot guy with a sword or

762
00:51:04,400 --> 00:51:07,280
a gun running around killing everyone,
and this one I was like, all

763
00:51:07,360 --> 00:51:08,519
right, I'm gonna try to be
this guy that like, oh, I

764
00:51:08,559 --> 00:51:12,880
was a xenobiologist and like he was
big on researching, on put way more

765
00:51:13,239 --> 00:51:16,599
points into like science and tech and
persuasion and social stuff and everything and try

766
00:51:16,639 --> 00:51:20,639
to talk my way through things.
And like I was really liking the persuasion

767
00:51:20,719 --> 00:51:22,239
system and everything, like, I
was really enjoying it, and I think

768
00:51:22,280 --> 00:51:28,280
I still am. But the thing
is, well, okay, I guess

769
00:51:28,599 --> 00:51:30,880
we'll get to something later here.
I was really enjoying it, and then

770
00:51:30,920 --> 00:51:34,599
something else popped up that I did
not expect to like as much as I

771
00:51:34,639 --> 00:51:37,559
did, and I got obsessed with
it. And that's all I've been playing

772
00:51:37,599 --> 00:51:39,679
for the last week and a half, and the whole time Starfield has been

773
00:51:39,679 --> 00:51:44,280
sitting there in the background, and
I've just been like, yeah, I

774
00:51:44,320 --> 00:51:45,559
guess I could do that. I
guess I could go back there. That's

775
00:51:45,599 --> 00:51:49,559
fine, that's good. But some
of the systems are kind of clunky.

776
00:51:49,639 --> 00:51:52,280
I don't I don't have a great
grasp with a ship system yet or the

777
00:51:52,320 --> 00:51:57,119
outpost system. I know. I
like the dialogue. I like just kind

778
00:51:57,119 --> 00:51:59,000
of the world. I don't like
the map. I don't like the fast

779
00:51:59,039 --> 00:52:00,519
travel. Like there's it's a lot
going on there. There's some stuff I

780
00:52:00,519 --> 00:52:04,599
really do like, like like the
combat. I think the combat is a

781
00:52:04,719 --> 00:52:07,719
huge, huge upgrade to like what
combat the land combat ors, uh,

782
00:52:08,159 --> 00:52:12,400
space combat I have. I've had
like one skirmish in space. I have

783
00:52:12,519 --> 00:52:15,239
like blown up one ship and that's
pretty much it. I've tried to like

784
00:52:15,280 --> 00:52:16,440
talk down every ship that's like tried
to talk ship to me or whatever.

785
00:52:16,480 --> 00:52:20,039
So I'm talking about running around with
a gun, I'm breaking into this place,

786
00:52:20,199 --> 00:52:23,920
this you know, Crimson Fleet thing
or whatever. That that stuff feels

787
00:52:23,920 --> 00:52:25,760
better than it's ever felt in it. But does the game you know,

788
00:52:25,800 --> 00:52:30,920
Skyrim and Oblivion never felt like amazing
combat Fallout. I liked Vats, but

789
00:52:30,960 --> 00:52:34,679
I mean that was more of a
that wasn't like a combat thing. Yeah,

790
00:52:34,679 --> 00:52:37,239
this this felt good. Like I'm
boosting around, I'm really just kind

791
00:52:37,239 --> 00:52:39,119
of like light and have you know, good boosters, jumping around shooting stuff

792
00:52:39,159 --> 00:52:44,760
like That's it feels better than than
those games ever had. But there's just

793
00:52:45,000 --> 00:52:52,119
enough just kind of jankie or uh, not optimal systems going on around it

794
00:52:52,199 --> 00:52:54,280
them make it kind of like they
kind of take me out of it and

795
00:52:54,320 --> 00:52:57,760
keep me from going to the next
level of like, oh, I fucking

796
00:52:57,800 --> 00:53:00,880
love this game, you know,
and have you played much of it?

797
00:53:00,360 --> 00:53:04,440
Yeah? Yeah, I'm about nine
hours in. So what I've heard from

798
00:53:04,440 --> 00:53:08,480
a lot of people is that it
takes about twelve hours or more to get

799
00:53:08,519 --> 00:53:13,880
into the main meat of the game, where you're in the hook and enjoying

800
00:53:13,880 --> 00:53:19,199
it. I still feel like I'm
in a tutorial and I'm learning the systems,

801
00:53:19,800 --> 00:53:22,800
and it is a bit of a
drag right now, nine hours in

802
00:53:22,920 --> 00:53:25,920
to be like, this is a
lot of tutorial, This is a lot

803
00:53:25,960 --> 00:53:32,400
of menu. I was not prepared
for the amount of not flying there was

804
00:53:32,440 --> 00:53:37,719
in this game. I was excited
to fly my ship, and I enjoy

805
00:53:37,000 --> 00:53:42,039
flying my ship. And the first
time I went and saw a planet and

806
00:53:42,159 --> 00:53:45,280
clicked on it and realized that's not
how you get to it, I was

807
00:53:45,480 --> 00:53:50,679
really disappointed. I'm down there,
I'm not flying. Not only am I

808
00:53:50,760 --> 00:53:54,199
not flying down there, but that's
not even how I quick get there.

809
00:53:54,639 --> 00:54:00,480
I get there by hitting tab,
going to my menu, going to the

810
00:54:00,519 --> 00:54:07,639
star map, actually going to my
what is the tasks that I'm supposed to

811
00:54:07,679 --> 00:54:10,119
be doing, clicking on the task
and then saying fast travel to this task,

812
00:54:12,960 --> 00:54:16,000
which really sucks me out of the
idea that I am mapping these charts,

813
00:54:16,000 --> 00:54:20,519
and it takes me out of the
RPG. I'm no longer pretending that

814
00:54:20,559 --> 00:54:23,320
I am doing these things because the
fast travel and you can fast travel to

815
00:54:23,320 --> 00:54:25,400
your ship. Right, So,
like sometimes I get off my ship and

816
00:54:25,440 --> 00:54:30,320
I like do all this combat and
I achieve this like really cool item that

817
00:54:30,360 --> 00:54:32,679
I've been looking for, and then
I just go, I look at my

818
00:54:32,679 --> 00:54:38,079
ship and I just suck myself to
the ship. It's like something that seems

819
00:54:38,199 --> 00:54:44,960
odd about that. A huge part
of these games is walking around or slowly

820
00:54:45,000 --> 00:54:49,280
flying there. That make because space
is slow, man, it takes you

821
00:54:49,320 --> 00:54:52,079
a while to get there. So
the whole fast travel thing, surprisingly,

822
00:54:52,119 --> 00:54:54,440
although I do think this was supposed
to be a benefit, right to get

823
00:54:54,480 --> 00:55:00,639
to the good stuff. To me, all the fast travel makes it hard

824
00:55:00,679 --> 00:55:05,519
for me to immerse myself in this
world because I am in menus more than

825
00:55:05,559 --> 00:55:07,920
I feel like I am in this
game. And loading screens, yes,

826
00:55:08,320 --> 00:55:13,639
yeah they're oh yeah they're short.
We're past the point where they're long,

827
00:55:13,760 --> 00:55:19,880
but it's still like loading screened.
Okay, so again, so it's funny

828
00:55:19,920 --> 00:55:23,159
looking back at the marketing, it's
like, how often were they They never

829
00:55:23,239 --> 00:55:28,440
once said you would be able to
exit a planet's atmosphere seamlessly and get up

830
00:55:28,480 --> 00:55:31,920
there. No, No, man, Sky absolutely ruined that or ruined that

831
00:55:32,079 --> 00:55:37,039
aspect of Starfield. For me,
there's nothing but thats it could do about

832
00:55:37,079 --> 00:55:44,960
that. My thing is that I
I it feels so overly artificial and there's

833
00:55:45,079 --> 00:55:47,719
so much game between me and Mary, as you said, the role playing.

834
00:55:47,960 --> 00:55:51,519
When I arrive and all of a
sudden, I see this planet split

835
00:55:51,599 --> 00:55:53,800
out in front of me. Maybe
it's a gas giant. Maybe it's like

836
00:55:53,840 --> 00:55:58,800
a desert planet like where I'm gonna
Aquila, and or maybe it's just I

837
00:55:58,840 --> 00:56:00,280
don't know, maybe like I kind
to see the lights of Neon and I

838
00:56:00,320 --> 00:56:04,159
was like, oh, this is
cool as shit. Again though at that

839
00:56:04,199 --> 00:56:07,280
point, if pirates don't ambush you, if or if nobody like says like

840
00:56:07,320 --> 00:56:09,000
hey do you have contraband on your
ship? And as Dan you said,

841
00:56:09,000 --> 00:56:12,159
like, yeah, I was going
for more of a charismatic character too.

842
00:56:12,159 --> 00:56:15,119
It's like I'm just going to open
the menu again and then find the city

843
00:56:15,280 --> 00:56:19,760
on the planet and fast travel,
which is fine. Yeah, I'm just

844
00:56:19,800 --> 00:56:24,360
gonna follow the blue dot which blue
dot follow simulator like Starfield to me,

845
00:56:24,480 --> 00:56:32,239
And I will say I overall,
I think, generally speaking, I dislike

846
00:56:32,320 --> 00:56:37,519
this game, which is not to
say I did not like certain stretches of

847
00:56:37,519 --> 00:56:42,880
this game. I love this game
when I was in Aquila City or I

848
00:56:42,920 --> 00:56:46,119
was in Neon, and I'm still
playing it. To its credit, I'm

849
00:56:46,159 --> 00:56:50,960
not enjoying every moment whatsoever. But
it's like, Okay, I'm in Aquila

850
00:56:51,039 --> 00:56:52,559
City, this wild West kind of
town. It's like, this is cool.

851
00:56:52,639 --> 00:56:55,599
This is I feel like they're like
inserting this genre fiction into it.

852
00:56:55,639 --> 00:57:00,400
I'm meeting different characters. Yeah,
sure, I'm role playing. My character

853
00:57:00,480 --> 00:57:07,679
is a chef who is on is
on the lamb because they're wanted. But

854
00:57:07,800 --> 00:57:13,159
my origin city is Neon, and
my whole storyliners that I like found out

855
00:57:13,239 --> 00:57:17,360
that this person I was serving at
my really high scale restaurant was a crime

856
00:57:17,360 --> 00:57:22,480
boss who killed my brother. I
poisoned them and then they found out,

857
00:57:22,559 --> 00:57:27,760
so I fucking got out of there. When I'm in Akila City and I'm

858
00:57:27,800 --> 00:57:30,199
talking two different quest givers and I'm
just kind of like exploring the city,

859
00:57:30,239 --> 00:57:38,000
I'll Act three of Balder's Gate three. It's like that's where Bethesda shines,

860
00:57:38,440 --> 00:57:45,760
or Bethesda the developer shines. It's
like they're they're good at making these handcrafted

861
00:57:45,119 --> 00:57:49,639
worlds where it's like this bespoke thing
where you meeting certain characters and they kind

862
00:57:49,639 --> 00:57:52,400
of can funnel you towards certain things. Like it reminds me of the best

863
00:57:52,440 --> 00:57:55,880
side quest from Fallout three or New
Vegas or that one Vault, where like

864
00:57:55,920 --> 00:58:00,800
it's basically the lottery short story.
It's like they're trying not to be elected.

865
00:58:00,320 --> 00:58:07,360
My point being it's like, I
wish more of the game was like

866
00:58:07,400 --> 00:58:09,920
that, and it's hard. I
don't want to criticize it for something it's

867
00:58:09,960 --> 00:58:15,880
not trying to be, but the
fact that it does have these cool singular

868
00:58:16,039 --> 00:58:23,039
quests in these handcrafted cities or handcrafted
areas like New Atlantis or Kala City or

869
00:58:23,119 --> 00:58:27,840
Neon, where I wish they stuck
to that, And I wish they had

870
00:58:27,880 --> 00:58:30,719
just made a game where it's like, hey, we're creating this brand new

871
00:58:30,760 --> 00:58:35,480
solar system. There are only six
planets in it. Yes, I want

872
00:58:35,519 --> 00:58:38,320
you to go explore these six planets. When Todd Howard first started saying skyrimm

873
00:58:38,320 --> 00:58:42,639
and space, that was the dream. That's clearly not what they were trying

874
00:58:42,679 --> 00:58:46,559
to do here. My problem with
the game, the inherent flaw that keeps

875
00:58:46,639 --> 00:58:51,960
making me dislike the game, is
that it feels so it's like all four

876
00:58:52,039 --> 00:58:54,119
limbs are getting pulled in a different
direction. One of the limb is trying

877
00:58:54,119 --> 00:58:58,960
to be no Men's Sky. The
infinite procedural generation planets of like finding resources

878
00:58:59,000 --> 00:59:05,440
and building an outpost the second is
trying to do like the cool cerebral puzzle

879
00:59:05,559 --> 00:59:09,599
storytelling of Outer Wilds. The third
is like still trying to be Skyrim,

880
00:59:09,599 --> 00:59:15,559
and the fourth is just doing every
sci fi trope ever. And I'm like,

881
00:59:15,239 --> 00:59:19,719
there is a dream version of Starfield
that I love, which is all

882
00:59:19,840 --> 00:59:27,280
Aquila City, all Neon, all
those specific planets, and Bethesda just nails

883
00:59:27,320 --> 00:59:30,679
it. But like, I don't
necessarily need to be going in and out

884
00:59:30,719 --> 00:59:34,199
of atmosphere seamlessly like No Man Sky. I get that. I get that,

885
00:59:34,239 --> 00:59:37,679
Bethea. The scale of this game, it's funny to say the scale

886
00:59:37,679 --> 00:59:42,960
of this game outsizes No Man Sky
when No Man Sky is the algorithm allows

887
00:59:42,960 --> 00:59:47,480
like it's infinity. But like,
this game does feel like it's having an

888
00:59:47,480 --> 00:59:51,280
identity crisis. And I know Bethesza
has been working on it for a long

889
00:59:51,320 --> 00:59:53,920
time. I just wish at some
point they had honed in on something.

890
00:59:53,960 --> 01:00:00,880
And my personal ideal is like three
planets three Skyrim that you can travel seamlessly

891
01:00:00,920 --> 01:00:04,280
between. I don't care if it's
solar. If you told me there's this

892
01:00:04,320 --> 01:00:07,280
solar system. If in the writer's
room at the beginning of this game,

893
01:00:07,679 --> 01:00:12,920
you created this solar system where there's
a star and three planets, and that's

894
01:00:12,960 --> 01:00:15,679
what your tech was allowed in a
moon, and moon's around each one.

895
01:00:15,800 --> 01:00:19,679
That's a lot to look at one
planet. It takes a whole lot of

896
01:00:19,719 --> 01:00:24,239
times. I've barely been anywhere on
it. We're not asking for infinite,

897
01:00:24,480 --> 01:00:30,239
and names keep giving us infinite.
This is a massive, massive space that

898
01:00:30,320 --> 01:00:35,199
feels endless, and it is so
large, but it's shallow. And I

899
01:00:35,239 --> 01:00:37,760
was talking to my friend about this
today. You guys both knew Drew and

900
01:00:37,840 --> 01:00:40,159
I was talking about this today.
He's like, yeah, I wasn't expecting

901
01:00:40,159 --> 01:00:44,239
like the no skys seamless stuff was
like fair. They never once said you

902
01:00:44,239 --> 01:00:47,199
could do that. I think when
I heard Skyrim in Space though I was

903
01:00:47,280 --> 01:00:52,519
expecting Skyrim, You're you're doing that
twenty minute bullshit intro, which is not

904
01:00:52,599 --> 01:00:54,880
good, and then all of a
sudden you're like, yeah, you could

905
01:00:54,880 --> 01:01:00,079
go to Riventon or whatever it's called, or you could go west, you

906
01:01:00,079 --> 01:01:04,159
can go north. I don't give
a fuck, Like this game is just

907
01:01:04,320 --> 01:01:07,519
very much like I don't think they
know what they wanted it to be,

908
01:01:07,840 --> 01:01:13,760
and I don't. Again, I
hate to criticize things for something they're not.

909
01:01:14,119 --> 01:01:20,239
I hate to criticize things by applying
this ideal that they're not trying to

910
01:01:20,280 --> 01:01:22,480
reach. However, they clearly are
in some respects in this game trying to

911
01:01:22,519 --> 01:01:27,280
do that handcrafted universe, but it's
just like kind of muddled with so many

912
01:01:27,280 --> 01:01:30,320
other things. But when they are
doing that, I love this game.

913
01:01:30,440 --> 01:01:34,440
I'm liking certain aspects. I'm like, God, I wish I could just

914
01:01:34,480 --> 01:01:39,039
spend like the Neon storylines as like
derivative as Neon itself is. It's coorissant,

915
01:01:39,159 --> 01:01:43,599
It's you know, the city from
the expanse like still fun. That

916
01:01:43,719 --> 01:01:46,239
is a game in itself. It's
just so many of those quests will take

917
01:01:46,239 --> 01:01:50,119
you off planet into this other bullshit
that I don't want to do, and

918
01:01:50,159 --> 01:01:53,480
I'm like, god, there's so
much here. It's like it's like Bethesda

919
01:01:53,599 --> 01:01:58,280
kind of like they pick up momentum
and they're so close to getting me just

920
01:01:58,360 --> 01:02:04,199
hooked, and then so many times
are just like fucking karate chopping me in

921
01:02:04,239 --> 01:02:07,119
another direction, and don't. I
just want to. I want to keep

922
01:02:07,119 --> 01:02:08,599
doing the things I want to,
like I want to enjoy doing, but

923
01:02:08,760 --> 01:02:14,119
I can't. Yeah, like an
individual side story or something will get me

924
01:02:14,199 --> 01:02:15,400
kind of hooked. I'll get really
into it and be kind of positive on

925
01:02:15,400 --> 01:02:17,840
the game, and then I'll think
like, Okay, I just finished up

926
01:02:17,880 --> 01:02:21,079
that story, let me just go
explore it for a little bit, and

927
01:02:21,119 --> 01:02:23,239
I never really feel rewarded for it
the way I wouldn't like. I know,

928
01:02:23,280 --> 01:02:27,400
these are very different games, but
you mentioned Ouderwilds and No Man Sky

929
01:02:27,440 --> 01:02:30,000
where I felt like I could just
land somewhere and be like, what do

930
01:02:30,039 --> 01:02:32,000
we got going on here? And
fly around but for some interesting land by

931
01:02:32,000 --> 01:02:35,599
it and check it out. You
don't get that experience here, and again

932
01:02:35,599 --> 01:02:38,440
they didn't. They didn't market it
as such, but that is I think

933
01:02:38,440 --> 01:02:42,960
what I want from this like far
reaching space game is the ability to explore

934
01:02:43,039 --> 01:02:45,800
and feel rewarded by it by just
cool findings. I think we should like

935
01:02:46,119 --> 01:02:52,199
hear what you just said, though, because how could you make a massive

936
01:02:52,559 --> 01:03:00,400
space exploration RPG and not reward people
for looking around? Like that's the fucked

937
01:03:00,519 --> 01:03:04,159
up part. So I don't care
whether or not they promised that to me.

938
01:03:04,679 --> 01:03:08,239
I should be able to go the
opposite direction of my waypoint and find

939
01:03:08,360 --> 01:03:13,840
something cool, because that's actually what
all gamers want, is the idea to

940
01:03:13,880 --> 01:03:16,519
have some kind of autonomy where you
have your own challenge and your own excitement

941
01:03:16,559 --> 01:03:21,880
by going off the beaten path,
and this game doesn't reward that because it

942
01:03:21,920 --> 01:03:25,559
was so it was it was trying
so hard to see if they could make

943
01:03:25,599 --> 01:03:30,000
this expansive universe they never made.
They never thought about whether or not they

944
01:03:30,039 --> 01:03:35,239
should. They didn't make the pockets
of like really interesting value. That is

945
01:03:35,320 --> 01:03:38,760
why you dig into these spaces.
Why do we go to planets to find

946
01:03:38,840 --> 01:03:43,840
weird shit on them? This was
the original problem with No Man Sky.

947
01:03:44,119 --> 01:03:49,719
If we all remember their launch,
which was infinite and every planet was fucking

948
01:03:49,800 --> 01:03:52,760
gray, and all the animals were
about the same, but some of them

949
01:03:52,800 --> 01:03:58,159
had like weird octopus bodies and some
of them had long giraffe necks, and

950
01:03:58,199 --> 01:04:01,519
I was like, this is boring. Once they really understood why we got

951
01:04:01,599 --> 01:04:09,440
excited to see something really wild enter
into reward you for your curiosity, that's

952
01:04:09,480 --> 01:04:12,320
the hook that they got. I
just don't think Starfield saw that yet.

953
01:04:12,800 --> 01:04:15,639
Yeah, and it's like it's I
agree with you, I don't. I

954
01:04:15,679 --> 01:04:17,400
don't think they promised a lot of
the things that I think we were projecting

955
01:04:17,440 --> 01:04:21,760
onto it. But again, Todd
Howard, the face of Bethesda from the

956
01:04:21,760 --> 01:04:26,159
beginning was saying we want to do
Skyrim in space. You could see him.

957
01:04:26,280 --> 01:04:29,360
You could see him in many videos
saying that, yeah, And that's

958
01:04:29,400 --> 01:04:32,519
why I played another game that kind
of when I was playing it, I

959
01:04:32,559 --> 01:04:35,199
was like, oh man, this
seems like what it could be Starfield could

960
01:04:35,199 --> 01:04:45,679
be was outer worlds obsidians basically obsidians
like Skyrim in space kind of it's like,

961
01:04:45,920 --> 01:04:48,239
oh, you're on several different planets, you're on a moon. That

962
01:04:48,320 --> 01:04:51,440
game took maybe twenty five hours to
beat, so it was definitely small scale.

963
01:04:51,519 --> 01:04:54,800
But playing that, I was like, oh man, Bethesda could just

964
01:04:54,840 --> 01:04:58,880
take this kind of format, and
you know, I don't care if I'm

965
01:04:58,920 --> 01:05:02,440
fast traveling between planet's Like, yeah, I guess you know again, No,

966
01:05:02,519 --> 01:05:06,679
man, Sky's space travel has really
ruined me for other games space travel,

967
01:05:06,719 --> 01:05:13,639
But I'm like, god, I
wish I I It's just funny to

968
01:05:13,639 --> 01:05:19,559
look back at Skyrim, a game
that just honed the like, just gamified

969
01:05:19,719 --> 01:05:27,119
curiosity better than any game ever made
except for Breath of the Wild Tears the

970
01:05:27,159 --> 01:05:30,119
Kingdom. Maybe, Like we joke
about Skyrim, it's everywhere. It's like,

971
01:05:30,159 --> 01:05:33,000
oh, can the refrigerator around Skyrim. It's like, go back to

972
01:05:33,039 --> 01:05:36,280
Skyrim. I went back like eight
months ago. It's still really fucking good

973
01:05:36,280 --> 01:05:40,559
at you, Like, what is
that little landmark in the distance, what's

974
01:05:40,559 --> 01:05:43,599
in that hut over there? Oh, I see a cave on my compass.

975
01:05:44,360 --> 01:05:49,039
There's probably something cool in there.
Again, to extrapolate that into the

976
01:05:49,159 --> 01:05:54,639
vast expanse of space is a tall
promise, but like that's what they've been

977
01:05:54,679 --> 01:05:59,000
phrasing it as since the beginning.
So even after all the marketing's done,

978
01:05:59,000 --> 01:06:05,400
I'm still like, the game just
feels I said this during a friend today.

979
01:06:05,400 --> 01:06:08,760
I'm like, yeah, it feels
like their limbs are getting pulled in

980
01:06:08,800 --> 01:06:12,880
all different directions. So now what's
left is just this bloody torso And I

981
01:06:13,440 --> 01:06:16,719
don't I don't know. I can't
like I need to like really hone in

982
01:06:16,800 --> 01:06:21,519
on one of those areas in this
game to enjoy it. It's challenging to

983
01:06:21,719 --> 01:06:26,840
enjoy this game, but I am. But overall, I can't say I

984
01:06:26,880 --> 01:06:29,960
really like this game because it's not
funneling me towards the best stuff. I

985
01:06:30,000 --> 01:06:32,519
think. That's the weird thing is
that, like this probably sounds very down

986
01:06:32,639 --> 01:06:35,360
this whole conversation. All three of
us am pretty down on it, but

987
01:06:35,360 --> 01:06:39,679
like at the end of the day, I still have been enjoying my time

988
01:06:39,719 --> 01:06:42,079
playing it, and I'm going to
go back to it, Like this was

989
01:06:42,119 --> 01:06:45,360
a bad game. You know,
I'm over twenty hours into it. I

990
01:06:45,400 --> 01:06:46,599
wouldn't be like, oh yeah,
I'm gonna go back to it. I

991
01:06:46,639 --> 01:06:50,000
am. I'm probably gonna spend another
at least twenty forty sixty I don't know

992
01:06:50,159 --> 01:06:55,559
hours in it, but I don't
know. It's not inspiring me by any

993
01:06:55,559 --> 01:07:00,639
means. Yeah, it's i'd say
overall, I would I would call it

994
01:07:00,679 --> 01:07:05,719
a mediocre game. It's just like, yeah, I don't know, it's

995
01:07:05,800 --> 01:07:10,559
it's it's fighting me to really like
it, and I wish it would just

996
01:07:10,639 --> 01:07:15,639
let me like it. But it's
just it's two someone what was the There's

997
01:07:15,639 --> 01:07:18,280
an article today that went up it's
like Starfield's too big to fail. It's

998
01:07:18,320 --> 01:07:21,880
like, it's true. I think
it's just like it's gonna have a life

999
01:07:21,920 --> 01:07:26,400
cycle, Like we're not at the
end of this game, and that's very

1000
01:07:26,440 --> 01:07:30,559
clear by how many updates they need
to do to it already, Like it's

1001
01:07:30,599 --> 01:07:34,360
gonna have more content added to it, and there's obviously like a post game

1002
01:07:34,400 --> 01:07:40,000
after you finish the story that people
are enjoying and I've heard from so many

1003
01:07:40,079 --> 01:07:44,960
people. Once you get like twenty
five even thirty hours in, they're like,

1004
01:07:45,039 --> 01:07:47,599
dang it like really gets you.
It's just that like oh that adult

1005
01:07:47,679 --> 01:07:50,079
like, oh, like I just
had to I just have to get through

1006
01:07:50,159 --> 01:07:55,079
like twenty more hours and this game
is gonna be so fucking great. I

1007
01:07:55,199 --> 01:07:58,760
just gotta kind of push myself through
the hurdle. But it's hard. I

1008
01:07:58,760 --> 01:08:02,239
mean, I got a game that
I can't fucking put down. Yeah,

1009
01:08:02,239 --> 01:08:06,880
that game is Pickman. Wait,
wait really quick. Yes, I want

1010
01:08:06,880 --> 01:08:09,920
to get to that because I know, I know Damn loves that game.

1011
01:08:10,000 --> 01:08:12,840
Is We've heard him rants about the
game. The one thing I'll say,

1012
01:08:12,880 --> 01:08:15,399
and I keep saying this, I'm
broken record. If a game takes that

1013
01:08:15,479 --> 01:08:20,319
long to really hook you, is
it a good game? Like there are

1014
01:08:20,319 --> 01:08:23,520
certain movies that take a while to
hook you, and then you're like,

1015
01:08:23,560 --> 01:08:26,800
oh, I see what they were
building toward, Like yeah, fucking Outer

1016
01:08:26,960 --> 01:08:32,399
Wilds. Okay, you get into
like uncertain territory when you're just sorry,

1017
01:08:32,439 --> 01:08:36,920
tricky territory. You're just trying to
compare stuff. Outer Wilds took exactly twenty

1018
01:08:36,960 --> 01:08:41,079
two minutes. I know that because
that's the loop of the game for me

1019
01:08:41,159 --> 01:08:45,920
to be like, oh my god, I can see how this could potentially

1020
01:08:45,920 --> 01:08:47,279
be one of my favorite games ever
made. And then you do another loop,

1021
01:08:47,279 --> 01:08:49,720
and you do another loop, it
literally hooks you in twenty two minutes.

1022
01:08:53,159 --> 01:08:56,800
Hades took fifteen minutes for me to
be like, well, I'm hopeless.

1023
01:08:56,880 --> 01:09:00,239
This is what I'm gonna be playing
for years. Like Vampire Survivors took

1024
01:09:00,279 --> 01:09:04,000
like ninety seconds. Yeah, yeah, And that's not again, that's kind

1025
01:09:04,039 --> 01:09:09,039
of speaking to my attention span with
video games nowadays, which I've been working

1026
01:09:09,079 --> 01:09:11,800
on, but like, and I
want to give games the benefit of the

1027
01:09:11,800 --> 01:09:16,039
doubt for longer than just twenty two
minutes ninety seconds, but like twenty two

1028
01:09:16,079 --> 01:09:18,920
hours before a game gets good.
It's like, and Mary, I've heard

1029
01:09:18,920 --> 01:09:21,000
the same exact thing we talked about
at work all the time. Like,

1030
01:09:23,319 --> 01:09:26,479
I could do a lot, I
could play a lot of other really fucking

1031
01:09:26,520 --> 01:09:30,439
good games in twenty two hours that
have come out this year, And I'm

1032
01:09:30,439 --> 01:09:36,840
like, yeah, great, Miller, who is one of the busiest dudes

1033
01:09:36,960 --> 01:09:41,159
I've ever met. He's got a
million things going on. He's running the

1034
01:09:41,199 --> 01:09:45,600
goddamn outlet, He's doing a million
things. He's working, he's raising a

1035
01:09:45,800 --> 01:09:48,960
baby. He's got a lot going
on, he tweeted. He's on his

1036
01:09:49,279 --> 01:09:55,920
fifth New Game Plus of Starfield.
That means his sixth playthrough. What is

1037
01:09:55,920 --> 01:10:00,159
this motherfucker doing? Time wise?
How is this happening? How does he

1038
01:10:00,239 --> 01:10:04,399
do this? That's an extraordinary amount
of time? But I think I would

1039
01:10:04,439 --> 01:10:09,960
say that that is a testament to
someone who, like obviously, once you

1040
01:10:09,960 --> 01:10:13,239
get into it, can get addicted
and fall in love with it, which

1041
01:10:13,319 --> 01:10:17,039
is a great sign that there's something
out there. Holy shit, those six

1042
01:10:17,119 --> 01:10:20,479
playthroughs. Yeah, any like platinums
every PlayStation game, Like, what the

1043
01:10:20,720 --> 01:10:25,239
what is happening here? How is
he bending time? Or whatever the fuck

1044
01:10:25,239 --> 01:10:28,920
he's doing? He's got a Hermia
Ranger like hour Glass. Yeah, I

1045
01:10:28,960 --> 01:10:32,199
don't, I don't know. Really
nuts, I don't know, kids,

1046
01:10:32,239 --> 01:10:39,079
although I'm doing a new game plus
right now, but in Starfield no uh

1047
01:10:39,359 --> 01:10:42,239
wait, okay, sorry, I
want to get to that. But Mary,

1048
01:10:42,319 --> 01:10:45,760
you brought wait can you talk about
the new game Plus that I'm doing?

1049
01:10:45,920 --> 01:10:47,039
Yes? Yeah, oh yeah,
it's okay. You can you You

1050
01:10:47,079 --> 01:10:49,479
folks led me Australia last time.
No, no, no, no,

1051
01:10:49,600 --> 01:10:53,960
I talk about Armor Corps. I
told you I was enjoying parts of that

1052
01:10:54,000 --> 01:10:55,720
game, and I was gonna play
more. I love that game. We'll

1053
01:10:55,760 --> 01:10:57,680
get to it, wasn't I mean, we'll get to that. Let's go

1054
01:10:57,720 --> 01:11:00,000
to Pickman. Okay, yeah,
Pickman. Mary, You're in to Pickman

1055
01:11:00,079 --> 01:11:04,840
now? Yeah, I'm into Pickman
now. Dan was really hyping it up,

1056
01:11:04,840 --> 01:11:08,520
and I have a feeling it's going
to come up for Godie And we're

1057
01:11:08,560 --> 01:11:12,880
in the era now where we all
need to start playing Goadie possibilities, all

1058
01:11:12,920 --> 01:11:17,359
of us. We all have a
responsibility to play Godie games. Well,

1059
01:11:17,640 --> 01:11:21,640
you know, one day you're gonna
be like, why can't you know Armored

1060
01:11:21,640 --> 01:11:25,920
Core come up? And we'll be
like, because nobody played it. Everybody

1061
01:11:25,920 --> 01:11:30,840
has to play these games so that
we can discuss them fairly and amicably and

1062
01:11:30,840 --> 01:11:39,000
then fight over them. That's right, amicably. Pickman is speaking of really

1063
01:11:39,000 --> 01:11:43,640
good hooks and loops. Immediately,
Pickman puts you in the thick of it

1064
01:11:43,720 --> 01:11:48,920
and lets you have so much fun
by growing your little Pickman. You throw

1065
01:11:48,960 --> 01:11:53,319
them at flowers, they drag them
to their little ship. It grows more

1066
01:11:53,319 --> 01:11:57,640
Pickman, you pluck them out of
the dirt. They've added some really nice

1067
01:11:57,760 --> 01:12:01,079
quality of life to this Pickman in
the form of the dog. Super fun

1068
01:12:01,159 --> 01:12:04,319
to ride your dog or or send
him out for stuff like I get my

1069
01:12:04,399 --> 01:12:09,319
dog to dig while I get other
pickmen to pick you know, a big

1070
01:12:09,359 --> 01:12:12,359
bottle and take it back to my
ship, or the ones that can't swim

1071
01:12:12,439 --> 01:12:15,000
throw it on the dog's back.
Yeah, that's so cute. I love

1072
01:12:15,000 --> 01:12:18,640
how you can like kind of operate
these things together. And I like the

1073
01:12:18,720 --> 01:12:21,640
challenges as well, when someone's like
you and me are going to battle.

1074
01:12:21,800 --> 01:12:27,399
Yes, the Dan Dory battles are
really fun. I thought it would give

1075
01:12:27,399 --> 01:12:30,279
me anxiety because I would be like, what if I fail, But it's

1076
01:12:30,640 --> 01:12:32,279
it's very forgiving if you fail.
It's just like, oh one time,

1077
01:12:32,399 --> 01:12:38,319
if you succeed. I did challenge
where they try to get you to get

1078
01:12:38,319 --> 01:12:41,720
a certain amount of points, and
he was like, you have a lot

1079
01:12:41,720 --> 01:12:45,399
of work to do. I was
like, they're really polite way of saying

1080
01:12:45,760 --> 01:12:48,840
you didn't even get an award because
your score was so low. But like,

1081
01:12:49,239 --> 01:12:51,479
do it again, Bud, and
I did, and I would do

1082
01:12:51,560 --> 01:12:58,000
it until I got the highest score. I've hundred percented the first two areas.

1083
01:12:58,039 --> 01:13:00,880
I'm on my third area. I've
done a night area. I really

1084
01:13:01,560 --> 01:13:04,960
I think this game is super fun
two hundred percent and to get addicted to

1085
01:13:05,279 --> 01:13:11,720
it is really fun to find everything, and I think it's delightful. It's

1086
01:13:11,720 --> 01:13:16,159
a brilliant escalation of the Pickman series. I'm usually not a huge completionist,

1087
01:13:16,239 --> 01:13:19,239
you know, I don't necessarily need
to get a thousand or a platinum or

1088
01:13:19,239 --> 01:13:23,439
anything or one hundred percent. With
this one, it's like, you know,

1089
01:13:23,479 --> 01:13:25,720
you'll go to that next level to
see what it's like, Like,

1090
01:13:25,720 --> 01:13:27,920
oh, I unlocked the fourth level, let's check it out. But I

1091
01:13:27,960 --> 01:13:30,800
can't look at that sixty two percent
on the last one and like, there's

1092
01:13:30,800 --> 01:13:31,840
a bunch of shit I got to
dig up there, Like you're gonna go

1093
01:13:31,920 --> 01:13:34,920
back there one hundred percent of that
entire game, and Mary, if you're

1094
01:13:34,960 --> 01:13:39,239
liking it now, like I feel
like the Hoaks, like it was really

1095
01:13:39,279 --> 01:13:43,119
really good from the very beginning,
and then somewhere like in the middle,

1096
01:13:43,199 --> 01:13:45,479
it was just like, oh fuck, how is it this good? And

1097
01:13:45,560 --> 01:13:48,560
it just keeps getting better and you're
going to see stuff that you haven't seen

1098
01:13:48,680 --> 01:13:50,880
yet that is going to be like, holy shit, this makes the whole

1099
01:13:50,880 --> 01:13:55,479
game so much better. That's cool, fucking awesome. It is ane hundred

1100
01:13:55,479 --> 01:13:59,239
percent of that game got everything,
got every top score on every Dandory Battle.

1101
01:13:59,279 --> 01:14:01,159
It was so rewarding from beginning to
end. I would do it again

1102
01:14:01,239 --> 01:14:06,319
right now if Pickmen five came out. Dang. The quality of discovering a

1103
01:14:06,359 --> 01:14:11,960
new Pickman and what their little abilities
are and what their drawbacks are. It's

1104
01:14:12,000 --> 01:14:14,720
really fun. And so anytime I
see something, I'm like, oh,

1105
01:14:14,720 --> 01:14:16,920
this is a carrying situation, so
I'm going to use this color. This

1106
01:14:17,000 --> 01:14:20,000
is oh, i gotta get through
this river, so I'll use the ice

1107
01:14:20,079 --> 01:14:24,199
ones and freeze it. Like it's
fun to solve these things, and you

1108
01:14:24,239 --> 01:14:27,159
can solve them in different ways,
and you might solve the one slightly different

1109
01:14:27,159 --> 01:14:30,119
than the way I solve it.
I think that's kind of nice as well.

1110
01:14:30,159 --> 01:14:32,560
And I also just think it's it
is competitive, but at the end

1111
01:14:32,560 --> 01:14:36,319
of the day, it's casual in
nature. So if I take twice as

1112
01:14:36,359 --> 01:14:42,279
many days to one hundred percent my
level, there's really nothing wrong with that.

1113
01:14:42,319 --> 01:14:45,359
You can take your time. But
there are also things like later on

1114
01:14:45,439 --> 01:14:47,479
that like if you want that challenge
that it is also there, like you

1115
01:14:47,479 --> 01:14:50,399
know, you can challenge yourself to
get that platinum or whatever on every day

1116
01:14:50,399 --> 01:14:56,000
and doory Battle, and there's very
optional things at the end that like are

1117
01:14:56,079 --> 01:15:00,359
really hard to do but super duper
fun. So it's like anywhere the like

1118
01:15:00,359 --> 01:15:01,960
difficulty spectrum. I think you're gonna
be happy here. I love it.

1119
01:15:02,039 --> 01:15:04,640
I think it's a great game,
and I'm really glad I picked it up.

1120
01:15:05,079 --> 01:15:08,800
I'm not like addicted. I don't
like have to I don't think I

1121
01:15:08,880 --> 01:15:12,159
have to finish it, but I
look forward to playing it every time.

1122
01:15:12,880 --> 01:15:18,720
It has encouraged me in a steam
Deck year to get my switch back out.

1123
01:15:18,960 --> 01:15:23,840
I am using that switch to play
this game. And it's a lovely

1124
01:15:24,520 --> 01:15:28,760
right before bed game that used to
be hadies because you could easily play like

1125
01:15:28,800 --> 01:15:31,199
a round of Hades before you go
to sleep at night. That's what I

1126
01:15:31,239 --> 01:15:35,720
do now with Pickman. I play, like you know, one day cycle

1127
01:15:35,960 --> 01:15:41,159
is like what ten, ten minutes, fifteen minutes, maybe like one of

1128
01:15:41,159 --> 01:15:43,760
the cave things or something, but
like you, I'd say ten to twenty,

1129
01:15:44,239 --> 01:15:47,000
so like I can as I'm going
to bed. It's like reading a

1130
01:15:47,079 --> 01:15:49,760
chapter of a book or something like
that. You can play a day of

1131
01:15:49,840 --> 01:15:55,119
Pickman and slowly ease into the evening. And because the game isn't stressful,

1132
01:15:55,920 --> 01:16:00,119
it's really a delight to finish your
day with I find it. I used

1133
01:16:00,119 --> 01:16:03,560
to also do this with Splunky.
Splunky was like a really nice like whatever,

1134
01:16:03,600 --> 01:16:05,920
I'll play around and when I die, I'll go to bed. It's

1135
01:16:05,960 --> 01:16:09,520
what I do with by Pickman.
It's like I'll play a day and when

1136
01:16:09,560 --> 01:16:13,319
it's nighttime for my Pickman is nighttime
for Mary and I go to sleep.

1137
01:16:14,920 --> 01:16:16,840
The little jingle plays every time you
get in the bed. Yeah, I

1138
01:16:16,880 --> 01:16:21,920
do get upset when they die.
I did. I have noticed that the

1139
01:16:23,039 --> 01:16:28,359
ratio of Pickman that I lose when
I'm drinking is significantly higher. Close your

1140
01:16:28,399 --> 01:16:30,800
eyes, like I didn't hear that. I didn't see that. I So

1141
01:16:30,880 --> 01:16:33,720
the worst one is when I don't
see it happen, and when there's just

1142
01:16:33,760 --> 01:16:39,880
a graphic on the screen that says, somewhere out there a Pickman. I

1143
01:16:39,880 --> 01:16:43,279
think it's like a Pickman has gone
or a Pickman was lost. I think

1144
01:16:43,279 --> 01:16:45,199
that's what it is, a Pickman
was lost. When that happens, I'm

1145
01:16:45,239 --> 01:16:48,840
like, I don't even know who
that is. If I didn't, if

1146
01:16:48,920 --> 01:16:53,720
I didn't see their solely of their
body, I have no emotional connection,

1147
01:16:53,760 --> 01:16:57,960
and I don't I don't rewind it. I just keep going but if I

1148
01:16:57,960 --> 01:17:00,800
if I've been like drinking and I'm
like whatever, I can handle this boss,

1149
01:17:00,960 --> 01:17:03,199
and the boss licks up twenty pickmen, and I can hear them all

1150
01:17:03,199 --> 01:17:08,920
go and you see all these souls
leave their body. I gotta rely soul.

1151
01:17:09,439 --> 01:17:11,840
And then you'll see like somebody on
your ship will like radio and and

1152
01:17:11,960 --> 01:17:15,880
be like, oh my god,
it was so many a massacre. Yeah

1153
01:17:15,920 --> 01:17:17,680
you should really and you'll get like
a little alert like you can rewind,

1154
01:17:17,720 --> 01:17:20,920
and I'm like, yeah, they're
all dead. They're not coming back.

1155
01:17:21,159 --> 01:17:26,319
I mean, this is war,
Yes, is what happens. You're picking

1156
01:17:26,399 --> 01:17:30,159
up game boy SPS and taking him
to his spaceship. So I'm rallying the

1157
01:17:30,199 --> 01:17:32,079
troops. Not all these men are
gonna go home, you know, do

1158
01:17:32,079 --> 01:17:36,079
you have them where the dog can
just like fucking like swallowed like a whole

1159
01:17:36,319 --> 01:17:39,720
like anything, like it could be
the biggest thing in the world. And

1160
01:17:39,720 --> 01:17:43,680
the dog was like, I'm just
like taking all it's insane. I love

1161
01:17:43,720 --> 01:17:46,520
it. The dog is a freak. It's fun. My dog. My

1162
01:17:46,600 --> 01:17:49,079
dog has the strength of thirty pickmen
right now, and I bet it can

1163
01:17:49,119 --> 01:17:53,960
go a pieve and higher. But
seeing the dog drag a massive thing by

1164
01:17:53,960 --> 01:17:58,399
itself is very funny. Yes,
I'm so glad you're loving it. It

1165
01:17:58,479 --> 01:18:00,880
is. That's a special game.
Like I expected to like the game,

1166
01:18:00,960 --> 01:18:03,720
I did not expect to fucking love
it the way I do. Super duper

1167
01:18:03,840 --> 01:18:08,960
good game. I absolutely am adoring
it and I am in favor of it,

1168
01:18:09,000 --> 01:18:12,720
and I do think it will come
up for Goadie. It's absolutely it's

1169
01:18:12,760 --> 01:18:16,239
a It's a stunning contender in a
series of Pickman. And it's been a

1170
01:18:16,239 --> 01:18:24,239
really long time that I remember Pickman
one and the difference in the amount of

1171
01:18:24,359 --> 01:18:27,760
upgrades that they have made to make
this game easier to play, easier to

1172
01:18:27,840 --> 01:18:32,680
understand, and more enjoyable, which
is so important as we like talk about

1173
01:18:32,720 --> 01:18:35,840
all these games and we're like discussing
whether or not like we like them,

1174
01:18:36,199 --> 01:18:40,359
so important to just remember, like
did you have fun? Yeah? You

1175
01:18:40,359 --> 01:18:44,359
know, yeah, I had fun
every moment I was playing Pickman, moment

1176
01:18:44,359 --> 01:18:46,319
I'm playing Pickman. I don't know
if like like Starfield, I don't know

1177
01:18:46,319 --> 01:18:49,560
if funds the word for you when
I don't think I would use fun either.

1178
01:18:49,920 --> 01:18:53,159
I kind of felt like I was
at a job. In fact,

1179
01:18:53,560 --> 01:18:57,840
the very first thing that happens in
Starfield is it's your first day at work,

1180
01:18:58,119 --> 01:19:00,880
and every person you meet is like, how they sign you up for

1181
01:19:00,920 --> 01:19:02,800
this garbage, dump, shit whole
job. And I'm like, oh no.

1182
01:19:03,079 --> 01:19:06,119
And I have a manager and she's
like, I don't really like doing

1183
01:19:06,119 --> 01:19:10,600
it, but ya gotta do what
you gotta do. And I'm like,

1184
01:19:10,800 --> 01:19:16,079
is this work? Am I working? Right now? I started? I

1185
01:19:16,119 --> 01:19:18,920
started the fucking side mission where you
have to go to a kiosk and apply

1186
01:19:19,079 --> 01:19:23,159
to a job. It's a questionnaire. I just sit down and do an

1187
01:19:23,199 --> 01:19:26,640
interview, and then I started a
job. So it's like it happened more

1188
01:19:26,680 --> 01:19:31,239
than one. I think Starfield's a
bad game. I think is that's what

1189
01:19:31,279 --> 01:19:35,319
we've been dancing around for like half
hour when we talk about a good game.

1190
01:19:35,319 --> 01:19:40,119
In comparison the amount of excitement you
guys expressed with Pickman, It's like

1191
01:19:40,680 --> 01:19:43,800
it only took one Pickman for us
to come to terms with the fact that

1192
01:19:43,960 --> 01:19:46,600
Starfield isn't bringing me a lot of
joy. It's something that I do and

1193
01:19:46,600 --> 01:19:49,760
I'm learning about it, but I
haven't had a lot of like heat moments.

1194
01:19:50,039 --> 01:19:54,119
I haven't been like te heat.
I can't get I can't wait to

1195
01:19:54,119 --> 01:19:57,399
get into my ship and see what
kind of Shenanigans I get into, but

1196
01:19:57,520 --> 01:20:00,720
like, I love picking up Pickman. I haven't touched Pickman yet, but

1197
01:20:00,800 --> 01:20:03,640
it reminds me obviously tiny Kin.
It's in the name. They were going

1198
01:20:03,680 --> 01:20:06,159
for a Pickman thing. Yeah,
the whole time in tiny Kin I was

1199
01:20:06,159 --> 01:20:10,079
one percent. I was like,
this is a blast. I love this

1200
01:20:10,359 --> 01:20:15,760
they have. They have like alkymized
fun and made it into a video game,

1201
01:20:15,800 --> 01:20:18,600
and it's it's awesome. Tiny Kin
kicks ass. But Pickman four is

1202
01:20:18,600 --> 01:20:23,199
on a different levels, on a
different level, it really is. It's

1203
01:20:23,279 --> 01:20:26,640
it's better. And I wonder if
they like played tiny Kin and we're like,

1204
01:20:26,760 --> 01:20:30,560
oh, like this is this is
in the right direction. I don't

1205
01:20:30,640 --> 01:20:35,399
think they're like that connected, but
Pickman is. It's stellar. They've really

1206
01:20:35,479 --> 01:20:41,439
they've really nailed it on this one. Dann Okay, how do we lead

1207
01:20:41,479 --> 01:20:45,279
you astray with Armor Cores six?
Well, I have the vaguest memories,

1208
01:20:45,319 --> 01:20:48,119
and I always forget which podcast was
on whatever, but I think it was

1209
01:20:48,159 --> 01:20:53,960
this one last week when I hadn't
played it Armored Corps. I think you

1210
01:20:54,039 --> 01:20:57,680
talked about it, Mike, maybe
briefly. I understand. I was enjoying

1211
01:20:57,720 --> 01:21:00,640
aspects of it, but like it
wasn't hooking me. Then I played more,

1212
01:21:00,680 --> 01:21:03,920
and I know I specifically said all
of my co workers said play more.

1213
01:21:04,600 --> 01:21:08,479
And to that specifically, I think
you said it like I was like,

1214
01:21:08,520 --> 01:21:10,279
would I like it? Should I
play this? And you were like,

1215
01:21:10,399 --> 01:21:13,680
I don't think it's a you game. That's what I mean. Say

1216
01:21:13,680 --> 01:21:16,439
it was bad, said you dissuaded
me. Chalk it up to the second

1217
01:21:16,479 --> 01:21:21,319
time I've ever had a bad recommendation
for you or you're you're bating like you

1218
01:21:21,319 --> 01:21:24,720
know nine eight years. I played
more of that game, and like to

1219
01:21:24,800 --> 01:21:28,680
Mary's point about start, I guess
to all of our points about Starfield,

1220
01:21:28,720 --> 01:21:31,800
it's like Armored Corps took a bit
to hook me. Oh, I was

1221
01:21:31,880 --> 01:21:34,720
right away, but no, the
first two hours, I'm like, all

1222
01:21:34,800 --> 01:21:38,840
right, this feels great. It
feels great. Like I said this on

1223
01:21:38,880 --> 01:21:43,439
the last episode, like this feels
great. I get how I could like

1224
01:21:43,560 --> 01:21:46,279
this could start expanding and blooming with
new weapons and ship. When I'm building

1225
01:21:46,279 --> 01:21:51,119
out, my my ac co workers
are telling me, like, later on

1226
01:21:51,319 --> 01:21:57,800
it your build becomes important and how
you're dealing with certain bosses becomes important.

1227
01:21:57,800 --> 01:22:00,720
I'm like, I could see how
that's happening. I was definitely bored at

1228
01:22:00,800 --> 01:22:09,319
first, but it was I don't
know that it was a like super I

1229
01:22:09,520 --> 01:22:15,800
disliked this game board. It was
more I wish it did more upfront board.

1230
01:22:15,840 --> 01:22:17,560
But again it wasn't twelve hours like
Starfield. But I'm glad you're liking

1231
01:22:17,560 --> 01:22:20,479
it. I think with me,
anytime I play a game where like the

1232
01:22:20,560 --> 01:22:24,279
second I take control of a character, it clicks when I'm like, oh,

1233
01:22:24,359 --> 01:22:27,439
this feels good, I think that
is like I know I'm gonna love

1234
01:22:27,479 --> 01:22:30,399
it, like Mario sixty four first
time we running around the courtyard jumping cartwheel

1235
01:22:30,439 --> 01:22:33,159
and all that shit. Returnal.
I remember the first time I played Returnal

1236
01:22:33,439 --> 01:22:36,640
and doing the dash and everything be
like oh this feels real fucking yeah,

1237
01:22:36,920 --> 01:22:41,920
and shooting and everything like Armored Core. Even before I was doing any of

1238
01:22:41,960 --> 01:22:45,960
the like you know, tweaking out
my thing and picking my weapons and strategizing

1239
01:22:45,960 --> 01:22:46,720
all this, I could just ride
away and tell that like, oh that

1240
01:22:46,760 --> 01:22:50,039
boost feels good, Oh I can
it square and just like fast dodge out

1241
01:22:50,039 --> 01:22:55,920
of the way. The l three
boosts is like a fucking Superman's story.

1242
01:22:56,000 --> 01:22:58,520
Yah yeah yeah. And I found
myself like right away, like I had

1243
01:22:58,520 --> 01:23:00,720
the dual sense of edge and so
I was like map and stuff like okay,

1244
01:23:00,760 --> 01:23:02,760
so put the fast button dodge on
this and everything, and it just

1245
01:23:02,840 --> 01:23:09,239
felt like I don't want to make
this over dramatic, but like as I

1246
01:23:09,319 --> 01:23:12,680
was playing and attacks were coming in
and everything, I felt like I was

1247
01:23:12,760 --> 01:23:15,600
in such control, like a level
of control over my character that I think

1248
01:23:15,600 --> 01:23:19,039
I've rarely felt. I you know, I love games like Devil May Crying,

1249
01:23:19,079 --> 01:23:24,319
Baneta and everything, but like there's
always like a layer of disconnect from

1250
01:23:24,319 --> 01:23:26,800
the character. Even if you're getting
the timing right and getting the witch time

1251
01:23:26,800 --> 01:23:30,079
and the combos and all that,
I never felt completely just in tune with

1252
01:23:30,079 --> 01:23:31,920
the character the way that like when
I am boosting out of the way of

1253
01:23:31,920 --> 01:23:35,920
stuff and hitting like okay, I
noticed like I feel like I'm doing things

1254
01:23:35,920 --> 01:23:40,199
without my brain even realizing it in
this game, like I'm connected to the

1255
01:23:40,199 --> 01:23:43,319
controller. It's like I can I
can tell when a character is slowing down,

1256
01:23:43,399 --> 01:23:45,840
or I can tell that the I've
got an opening here where I can

1257
01:23:45,880 --> 01:23:47,079
hit him with the stun needle launch
or something like that, or okay,

1258
01:23:47,119 --> 01:23:49,680
this is perfect time to hit the
bazuka. And then if I die,

1259
01:23:50,039 --> 01:23:53,479
I'm never getting upset. I'm always
like Okay, let's go back the drawing

1260
01:23:53,479 --> 01:23:55,960
board, Let's go back into the
assembly. Let's okay, so they've got

1261
01:23:55,960 --> 01:23:59,079
those shields and swap out these kinnetic
weapons for pulse weapons and everything. I

1262
01:23:59,079 --> 01:24:00,760
thought that was going to be a
hand in the ass because I hate like

1263
01:24:01,079 --> 01:24:04,439
tinkering stuff. I'm not like a
gearhead. Let's play Fortza and adjust the

1264
01:24:04,479 --> 01:24:09,439
axles on my car type guy.
Uh, this is the right level of

1265
01:24:09,479 --> 01:24:13,720
like it's not that much minutia,
but there is such a level of control

1266
01:24:13,760 --> 01:24:15,880
over like, Okay, I'm gonna
make this reverse joint, super nimble,

1267
01:24:16,039 --> 01:24:19,800
speedy BOOSTI mech I'm gonna save that
one. But that got its task kicked

1268
01:24:19,800 --> 01:24:23,800
against that boss. So now I'm
gonna make a fucking tank with bazookas and

1269
01:24:23,880 --> 01:24:28,039
literal tank treads and I'm going there
with so much armor and assault power and

1270
01:24:28,079 --> 01:24:32,479
everything. It's god damn it it. I connected with it so fast right

1271
01:24:32,479 --> 01:24:34,640
away. I was streaming it,
and I was expecting to do like a

1272
01:24:34,680 --> 01:24:39,199
fifteen minute stream just to see like
if my new setup worked or whatever.

1273
01:24:39,520 --> 01:24:42,199
And then like the first level,
I remember like turning with the chat and

1274
01:24:42,239 --> 01:24:44,960
be like, wait, is this
fucking cool? Like what's the deal here

1275
01:24:45,239 --> 01:24:46,920
and I got to that first,
that baltiest boss. No, no,

1276
01:24:46,960 --> 01:24:49,319
it was the helicopter. The helicopter
I beat like right away, and some

1277
01:24:49,319 --> 01:24:51,439
people in the chat were like,
whoa, okay, we didn't expect you

1278
01:24:51,479 --> 01:24:56,159
to click with this as fast as
you did. And I felt without much

1279
01:24:56,239 --> 01:25:00,359
trouble that the helicopter, the baltiest
thing. Helicopter took me like three Yeah,

1280
01:25:00,479 --> 01:25:03,720
yeah, it's but I mean,
I just felt in so much control,

1281
01:25:03,800 --> 01:25:06,640
and when I died, I always
felt like I was learning, and

1282
01:25:08,039 --> 01:25:10,720
uh yeah I beat it. I'm
doing a new game plus now. I

1283
01:25:11,000 --> 01:25:15,359
uh man, I I cannot believe
that if this was a world where there

1284
01:25:15,399 --> 01:25:19,000
wasn't a new, incredible like Landmark
Zelda game that came out, I would

1285
01:25:19,039 --> 01:25:23,640
seriously be considering an Armored Core game
for my Game of the Year when I've

1286
01:25:23,640 --> 01:25:26,079
never fucking played one of these games
before, and I don't give a shit

1287
01:25:26,119 --> 01:25:30,000
about Max. When you when's the
last time you played it? Today?

1288
01:25:30,279 --> 01:25:34,720
Give it some time before you say
that about yeah, game of the year.

1289
01:25:35,000 --> 01:25:38,000
Yeah, I give it a little
more time. Oh I know,

1290
01:25:38,079 --> 01:25:40,399
I no, no, no,
I'm not. It's going to be high

1291
01:25:40,399 --> 01:25:43,000
on my personal I don't know.
It might be four. It might be

1292
01:25:43,000 --> 01:25:45,039
three. I haven't like sat down
and put it all together. It's a

1293
01:25:45,039 --> 01:25:48,399
good year for games, but it's
like I can definitely say it's way higher

1294
01:25:48,439 --> 01:25:50,199
than like, I did not think
I was even going to play it,

1295
01:25:50,359 --> 01:25:54,560
and now I fucking love it.
I apologize if I led you straight.

1296
01:25:54,600 --> 01:25:58,159
I that first hour, I was
like, this feels great, but I've

1297
01:25:58,159 --> 01:26:00,600
played some other stuff that feels great. But yeah, I know, the

1298
01:26:00,640 --> 01:26:03,560
more I played it, the more
I'm like. It didn't start truly hooking

1299
01:26:03,600 --> 01:26:10,159
me until I was experimenting in the
arena. It was when it was when

1300
01:26:12,079 --> 01:26:15,079
I started bumping up. It was
Baltius, and I think Baltius was the

1301
01:26:15,159 --> 01:26:17,600
kind of the market of the game
where I'm like, from elden Ring,

1302
01:26:17,640 --> 01:26:23,560
I'm like, we've literally written on
a polygon. That's the kind of skill

1303
01:26:23,680 --> 01:26:28,039
check where I'm like this, the
game has felt good up until that point.

1304
01:26:28,439 --> 01:26:32,680
So I started experimenting with different bills, Like, all right, maybe

1305
01:26:32,680 --> 01:26:35,680
if I do a pistol in my
off hand, which is more like accurate

1306
01:26:35,840 --> 01:26:40,600
kind of you know, like not
as much of a recharge my burst rifle,

1307
01:26:40,640 --> 01:26:44,000
but then I've got the missile on
my right shoulder. You start trying

1308
01:26:44,000 --> 01:26:47,239
different things, and you start to
realize that they really do want you to

1309
01:26:47,800 --> 01:26:54,119
be doing the arena and the like
actually getting out of the mission that you're

1310
01:26:54,239 --> 01:26:58,279
in if you need to, which
is like that's where elden Ring was like,

1311
01:26:58,319 --> 01:27:00,000
no, go explore a different part
of the open world or Dark Soul

1312
01:27:00,079 --> 01:27:06,079
is like go maybe farm some enemies. It's like Armored Cores sixes version of

1313
01:27:06,119 --> 01:27:11,000
that is no go experiment with different
builds, which is which is super cool,

1314
01:27:11,039 --> 01:27:14,439
and like once I started doing that, it clicked. Yeah. I

1315
01:27:14,479 --> 01:27:17,880
think still no matter no matter how
much I play that game, I still

1316
01:27:17,920 --> 01:27:25,800
just the world itself on purpose feels
lifeless. I get that's what they're going

1317
01:27:25,840 --> 01:27:30,359
for the whole point of the game, that this setting the premise. I

1318
01:27:30,439 --> 01:27:35,079
just can only take so much like
Gray and Desolation. Yeah, but it

1319
01:27:35,079 --> 01:27:39,399
still feels great. I think for
me that's almost a plus because like I

1320
01:27:39,399 --> 01:27:41,600
just don't give a fuck about the
story, Like I listen, I don't

1321
01:27:41,600 --> 01:27:45,399
skip anything what I'm looking at.
That's what I'm saying, Like, I

1322
01:27:45,439 --> 01:27:47,199
don't I don't need that set dressing. That means nothing to me. So

1323
01:27:47,199 --> 01:27:49,720
it's like I just want to get
into the action, and I think I

1324
01:27:49,720 --> 01:27:53,800
would hit like the reason that when
I die, even if I'd back all

1325
01:27:53,800 --> 01:27:56,239
the way out, lose my checkpoints
and start the whole mission over again,

1326
01:27:56,680 --> 01:27:59,560
I don't really care because there's not
downtime. You just start and you're in

1327
01:27:59,640 --> 01:28:02,199
fucking action right away. If I
if there's more like just kind of like

1328
01:28:02,319 --> 01:28:05,520
lower or world building or anything like
that, I think I'd just be like,

1329
01:28:05,760 --> 01:28:08,760
just give me to the good shit. And I feel like this game

1330
01:28:08,840 --> 01:28:12,359
is just shoveling you into the good
shit at all turns, you know,

1331
01:28:12,439 --> 01:28:15,399
And like I specifically don't want lower. I don't give a funk while these

1332
01:28:15,479 --> 01:28:18,079
robots are fighting. Just let me
put the bazoo because on my robot and

1333
01:28:18,079 --> 01:28:20,680
fight the other ones, and this
game lets you do that super easily.

1334
01:28:23,520 --> 01:28:30,239
Yeah, I want to play more
of that game. I I that's one

1335
01:28:30,239 --> 01:28:32,439
of those games where I kind of
I feel like I would love a lot

1336
01:28:32,439 --> 01:28:35,680
more if I played games like a
normal person, like one at a time

1337
01:28:38,399 --> 01:28:44,520
and actually took the time to experiment
with different builds. But god, I

1338
01:28:44,560 --> 01:28:46,439
got some other stuff going on.
But yeah, I want to play more

1339
01:28:46,880 --> 01:28:50,239
Armor Corps for sure. That's what
stopped me from playing Starfield for most of

1340
01:28:50,239 --> 01:28:54,119
the last couple of weeks. Yeah, I like I like this game a

1341
01:28:54,159 --> 01:29:00,760
lot more. I like Armor Corp
way more in Starfield for sure. I

1342
01:29:00,760 --> 01:29:03,159
I mentioned this at the beginning of
the episode. We killed Bob Barker and

1343
01:29:03,239 --> 01:29:08,640
Terry Funk. We also sort of
killed Me Me Me Games, their developer

1344
01:29:09,199 --> 01:29:12,399
in my mind, so if you
miss it. A couple of weeks ago,

1345
01:29:12,479 --> 01:29:15,600
they announced me Me Me spelled m
I, m I am I.

1346
01:29:15,279 --> 01:29:20,800
They announced that they were shutting down, and it sounds like they just needed

1347
01:29:20,800 --> 01:29:24,680
to for their own mental health,
for their own sanity, which is great,

1348
01:29:24,800 --> 01:29:28,000
like good for them for being able
to do that. Sounds like the

1349
01:29:28,319 --> 01:29:33,279
three games they've made were labors of
love, and I don't think any of

1350
01:29:33,279 --> 01:29:39,640
them sold especially well. I could
be completely wrong about that would not surprise

1351
01:29:39,640 --> 01:29:46,680
me, though. They're very niche
fucking raved about Shadow Gambit last episode Stealth

1352
01:29:46,760 --> 01:29:50,119
Tactics. Again. For those who
might now listen to the last episode,

1353
01:29:50,159 --> 01:29:56,760
imagine Hit Man or dishonor two or
Metal Gear Solid zoomed out to an isometric

1354
01:29:56,880 --> 01:30:00,640
view. That's the kind of games
they've made. The more I play Shadow

1355
01:30:00,680 --> 01:30:10,039
Gambit, their newest game, the
more I'm just like in awe, I

1356
01:30:11,479 --> 01:30:15,399
we all know here that I'm like, first and foremost in video games,

1357
01:30:15,439 --> 01:30:19,680
I'm a level design nut. That's
kind of what gets me is good level

1358
01:30:19,680 --> 01:30:26,039
design. Hence why I like Designer
two, Hitman Trilogy. The games I

1359
01:30:26,119 --> 01:30:29,520
just mentioned, like Stealth games tend
to have really good level design because they're

1360
01:30:29,560 --> 01:30:31,920
built on their level design. But
Shadow Gambit, the more and more I

1361
01:30:31,960 --> 01:30:35,399
play it, the more and more
I'm like, holy shit, I'm playing

1362
01:30:36,279 --> 01:30:43,239
just a This is a developer at
the like. I cannot imagine if me

1363
01:30:43,359 --> 01:30:46,640
and me made another game in this
genre, how they could possibly make a

1364
01:30:46,680 --> 01:30:49,880
better game. And I think it's
a testament to their skill that I've said

1365
01:30:49,920 --> 01:30:54,560
that every one of their games I
played, and they have continued to outdo

1366
01:30:54,600 --> 01:31:00,439
themselves. But Shadow Gambit, again, I really dislike the name Shadow Gambit.

1367
01:31:00,560 --> 01:31:04,079
The Curse Crew. Anytime you have
a colon in your name, you

1368
01:31:04,159 --> 01:31:08,239
got a second guess the name.
Okay, let's let's make it sound better.

1369
01:31:08,439 --> 01:31:12,199
I just did a quick look of
a game called Curse Crackers. Colon

1370
01:31:12,680 --> 01:31:16,039
for whom the bell toils and bell
is b E L L E because it's

1371
01:31:16,079 --> 01:31:19,000
the name of the main character.
Yeah, that's Curse Crackers, for whom

1372
01:31:19,039 --> 01:31:24,119
the bell toils. All right,
so Shadow Gambit the Curse Crew is miles

1373
01:31:24,159 --> 01:31:30,199
better, no, and uh,
but just by virtue of the fact that

1374
01:31:30,239 --> 01:31:35,479
it's more open ended than Desperado's Three
the Wild Western stealth game and Shadow Tactics

1375
01:31:35,479 --> 01:31:41,479
the Edo Arrow Japan stealth game where
you're going to different islands across this archipelago.

1376
01:31:41,479 --> 01:31:47,159
It's basically an alternate Caribbean, and
you are recruiting the crew members in

1377
01:31:47,159 --> 01:31:53,079
whatever order you choose. Basically,
so the more crew members I unlock,

1378
01:31:53,840 --> 01:31:57,760
the more. You would think in
a Stealth Tactics game where the levels are

1379
01:31:57,920 --> 01:32:06,199
very handcrafted, they're like dire aramas
of undead zombie pirate Caribbean violence, you

1380
01:32:06,199 --> 01:32:16,279
would think the vastly expanding combinations possible
combinations of team members would start to break

1381
01:32:16,279 --> 01:32:21,479
the game. At some point.
I think it's eight characters you unlock,

1382
01:32:23,079 --> 01:32:26,800
but on most missions you can bring
whatever three you want. You would think

1383
01:32:26,960 --> 01:32:30,159
you would bring some combination that would
either break a level and make it extremely

1384
01:32:30,199 --> 01:32:34,560
easy, or prevent you from beating
the level because you didn't bring a character

1385
01:32:34,560 --> 01:32:38,560
who could do like repositioning in the
way that they want you to, or

1386
01:32:38,600 --> 01:32:42,560
the whistle or sniper kind of thing. That they want you to do.

1387
01:32:43,560 --> 01:32:45,760
The more characters are unlock, the
more that the game is accounting for it

1388
01:32:45,840 --> 01:32:55,239
in every way, and I'm just
further amazed. I'm like it truly.

1389
01:32:55,319 --> 01:32:58,560
It's one of those games I like, I have a hard time talking about

1390
01:32:58,600 --> 01:33:01,840
without rambling because I like so much
about it. But I will say that

1391
01:33:03,640 --> 01:33:08,640
I in terms of stealth games,
and I was just making fun of Dan

1392
01:33:08,760 --> 01:33:11,720
for saying that Armor Corps is one
of his favorite games in the year no

1393
01:33:11,760 --> 01:33:14,119
matter what. But I'm like,
yeah, I'm there with you in the

1394
01:33:14,159 --> 01:33:19,079
sense that in terms of stealth games, Shadow Gambit is one of my favorites

1395
01:33:19,079 --> 01:33:23,039
ever. And I'm still only like, from what I understand, seventy five

1396
01:33:23,079 --> 01:33:30,800
percent of the way through twenty two. Maybe at this point I'm taking my

1397
01:33:30,840 --> 01:33:35,359
time, and I'm also there's side
objective. If there's challenges, I'll hit

1398
01:33:35,439 --> 01:33:40,319
man design or whatever that you can
do and eliminate certain characters and like open

1399
01:33:40,439 --> 01:33:49,680
certain exits and whatnot. But like, it's it's pretty incredible what they have

1400
01:33:49,800 --> 01:33:56,000
pulled off with it. I think
I've said all I can about that game

1401
01:33:56,039 --> 01:33:58,680
now, but I really just like, if people haven't tried Shadow Gambit,

1402
01:33:58,880 --> 01:34:02,960
go if you're into stealth or real
time strategy because it is real timing LEAGUELD

1403
01:34:02,960 --> 01:34:09,760
pause it and issue orders in the
pause screen, or just like again,

1404
01:34:10,640 --> 01:34:16,279
action adventure in these like condensed levels, go go check out Shadow Gambut.

1405
01:34:16,319 --> 01:34:21,279
I really am enjoying that game quite
a lot. And it's a bummer.

1406
01:34:21,359 --> 01:34:24,439
No, no, meybe me as
a group is not going to make another

1407
01:34:24,560 --> 01:34:29,960
game, but the three games they
have made, one each of which are

1408
01:34:29,960 --> 01:34:34,359
similar stealth tactics from an overhead perspective
on these like dioramic levels. One is

1409
01:34:34,399 --> 01:34:41,479
Wild West, one is Edo Air
Japan Ninjas Samurai. One is on Dead

1410
01:34:41,560 --> 01:34:49,239
Zombie Pirates. Go check those out
because that that game is incredible. But

1411
01:34:49,319 --> 01:34:54,479
outside of that, Mary, if
you what have you been playing outside of

1412
01:34:54,520 --> 01:35:01,680
Starfield? Yeah? Okay, so
this is also a good episode to talk

1413
01:35:01,720 --> 01:35:14,000
about RPGs and I got an RPG
Bather's Gate three. It's Stars. Oh,

1414
01:35:14,039 --> 01:35:17,640
the the the team that made Me
made The Messenger. So this is

1415
01:35:17,680 --> 01:35:25,920
a team that is notorious for taking
like classic games and doing right by them

1416
01:35:26,079 --> 01:35:30,279
in an updated way. Right it
is the guys, and just like the

1417
01:35:30,319 --> 01:35:35,079
Messenger, be prepared to be impressed
by this game. Just like the Messenger,

1418
01:35:35,279 --> 01:35:38,600
Okay, sell me on this mirror
because I don't really give a shit

1419
01:35:38,600 --> 01:35:43,640
about JRGS. I'm in so me, neither me, neither. Shut up,

1420
01:35:43,640 --> 01:35:46,800
Mike, Mike, you haven't played
it? How could you? How

1421
01:35:46,800 --> 01:35:54,960
could you do this? I love
that game? So I don't like it's

1422
01:35:53,800 --> 01:35:58,560
a it's Mike. What did I
say? Did I say? Talk more?

1423
01:35:59,399 --> 01:36:03,399
Okay, Hey, let's let's go
to emails. Mary trying to fucking

1424
01:36:03,479 --> 01:36:06,800
move aside. Stop him again,
fucking freak out. I'm gonna freak out.

1425
01:36:06,840 --> 01:36:12,800
I hate this podcast. I hate
this fucking show host. I hate

1426
01:36:13,000 --> 01:36:17,119
this goddamn pot. This is the
this is the worst showing good radio.

1427
01:36:17,399 --> 01:36:23,760
I'ven sensed him again. Sorry,
No, I'm cool. I'm a cool

1428
01:36:23,840 --> 01:36:28,920
dude. Have you been drinking hard
liquors again? I'm gonna drinking beer.

1429
01:36:29,000 --> 01:36:34,960
I told you. Okay. So
the guys who made the Messenger basically we're

1430
01:36:35,000 --> 01:36:42,079
making a love letter to Ninja Gaden
and nailed it, like they nailed the

1431
01:36:42,119 --> 01:36:44,920
look and the feel and the vibes
that you would want when you were playing

1432
01:36:44,920 --> 01:36:45,800
an old school game like that.
But they actually did a lot of like

1433
01:36:45,840 --> 01:36:49,279
really good quality of life, and
they did some nice twists that made it

1434
01:36:49,279 --> 01:36:53,520
great for modern audiences. It was
a wonderful love letter. It's a fucking

1435
01:36:53,640 --> 01:36:58,119
stellar game. Everyone actually should just
play The Messenger. But their newest release

1436
01:36:58,479 --> 01:37:01,920
is a love letter to Chrono Trigger. It is absolutely in the same vein

1437
01:37:02,279 --> 01:37:09,039
of that like genuine I'm going to
care about these characters vibes, but the

1438
01:37:09,159 --> 01:37:15,800
music, the visual styles, they
are spectacular and they are so so good.

1439
01:37:16,439 --> 01:37:20,640
I was blown away by how much
I love this game, and I

1440
01:37:20,720 --> 01:37:25,960
don't play these types of games except
for when I was younger, I played

1441
01:37:26,039 --> 01:37:30,760
Chrono Trigger. So this was like
going back and to an old friend.

1442
01:37:30,079 --> 01:37:34,479
It even has a couple Easter eggs
that are paying homage to Chrono Trigger in

1443
01:37:34,520 --> 01:37:41,880
it. But it has really fun
mechanics that I think update the game and

1444
01:37:41,960 --> 01:37:44,880
the concept of like the combat that
engage you. And I'll give you some

1445
01:37:44,920 --> 01:37:48,560
examples. One is when you get
attacked, right as they're about to attack

1446
01:37:48,600 --> 01:37:51,920
you, you can hit a button
that reduces the damage that you're taking.

1447
01:37:51,960 --> 01:37:56,239
In Yes, it's really nice to
just keep your wits about you. The

1448
01:37:56,319 --> 01:38:00,840
Vein Girl, she has a moon
boom range attack, and the idea is

1449
01:38:00,880 --> 01:38:06,239
that she hits the enemy and then
the moon comes back to her. And

1450
01:38:06,239 --> 01:38:12,560
she has to uh, she has
like hit it again, Okay, last

1451
01:38:12,960 --> 01:38:17,760
want the moon and it's at and
as long as you ricochet on time,

1452
01:38:18,159 --> 01:38:24,600
it goes back and forth up to
like is infinite times. And so when

1453
01:38:24,720 --> 01:38:28,960
she's doing the specialty move, you're
essentially like constantly hitting the button at this

1454
01:38:29,000 --> 01:38:31,840
perfect time. But you can also
fudget on your very first ricochet, which

1455
01:38:31,840 --> 01:38:34,960
is super embarrassing for you and all
of your party who sees you. I

1456
01:38:34,960 --> 01:38:39,560
mean, you're saying everything like the
few jerepugs I've played that. I really

1457
01:38:39,600 --> 01:38:42,680
like, like you're naming like the
Mario Luigi games and everything with all of

1458
01:38:42,720 --> 01:38:45,680
this really kind of clever like that, Like that sounds like something that like

1459
01:38:45,760 --> 01:38:47,119
oh, kick the couper shell and
you can rica back and forth. Like

1460
01:38:47,560 --> 01:38:50,840
alright, Mary, you're you're already
you're taking me for I've already made a

1461
01:38:50,880 --> 01:38:54,319
note to myself to play this game. And this is something that was not

1462
01:38:54,359 --> 01:38:57,159
even remotely on my radar. I
would love to be surprised again like I

1463
01:38:57,239 --> 01:39:02,560
was with Armored Corps. I I
I'm going to play this game now faithfully

1464
01:39:02,640 --> 01:39:08,880
that this is a really quality game. And again I don't usually play dialogue

1465
01:39:08,880 --> 01:39:12,399
heavy games. Like this, you
do have to give and take a little

1466
01:39:12,399 --> 01:39:15,119
bit with me that of course it's
talking because it's an RPG and you're a

1467
01:39:15,239 --> 01:39:17,520
learning about these characters. But they
do again some really nice quality of life

1468
01:39:17,520 --> 01:39:21,159
stuff. One of the cool things
is is sometimes when they introduce new characters,

1469
01:39:21,479 --> 01:39:27,079
they just switch it into like an
anime style and like everyone's smoking hot

1470
01:39:27,119 --> 01:39:30,279
and the animations are really nice and
you're just like seeing them in a different

1471
01:39:30,319 --> 01:39:32,960
style, and then it goes back
into the story, into the game,

1472
01:39:33,039 --> 01:39:38,680
into the pixelated game style. It's
amazing that they even added that in there,

1473
01:39:38,680 --> 01:39:42,159
but it's a beautiful way to keep
This keeps my brain going. I

1474
01:39:42,159 --> 01:39:45,159
feel like I'm never bored. There's
puzzles a lot of the areas. They'll

1475
01:39:45,199 --> 01:39:47,960
be like, oh, to get
here, you can sort it out in

1476
01:39:47,960 --> 01:39:50,479
your mind, like I'm gonna have
to climb this bridge and push this rock

1477
01:39:50,520 --> 01:39:54,079
and hit this button, but I'm
going to have to get in a combat

1478
01:39:54,119 --> 01:39:57,319
at some point. You do need
to pay attention. The very first thing

1479
01:39:57,319 --> 01:40:00,279
that happens is you go to school
to learn how to use your moves.

1480
01:40:00,439 --> 01:40:03,439
If you don't pay attention in school, you will be punished for it because

1481
01:40:03,760 --> 01:40:10,640
the whole combat system is about understanding
the pros and cons of these mechanics that

1482
01:40:10,680 --> 01:40:14,279
you will play throughout the entire game, so it is important that you focus.

1483
01:40:14,439 --> 01:40:15,640
If it's about the combat, I
can deal with it. If it's

1484
01:40:15,640 --> 01:40:18,720
like a twenty minute thing about why, oh this crystal is healing in the

1485
01:40:18,760 --> 01:40:21,520
world after an asteroid, I don't
care about that. But if it's about

1486
01:40:21,520 --> 01:40:24,840
like combat stuff, I can.
I'll learn that. Yeah, it's not

1487
01:40:24,880 --> 01:40:28,399
about here. I actually don't think
I know what the story is about.

1488
01:40:29,239 --> 01:40:32,600
I feel like at some point I'm
in like wizard school. I don't think

1489
01:40:32,640 --> 01:40:38,880
that's actually what we are, but
let's just say it's wizards school and we're

1490
01:40:39,039 --> 01:40:42,359
learning because she's more of a sorcerer
and I'm more of like we have different

1491
01:40:42,359 --> 01:40:46,880
combat styles. They're like, we're
learning our individual combat styles. And there's

1492
01:40:46,920 --> 01:40:53,399
definitely like enemies in the world that
are caused by some kind of chaos that

1493
01:40:53,439 --> 01:40:56,920
we're curing. But I agree,
I haven't really given a shit about any

1494
01:40:56,960 --> 01:41:00,600
of that, and it hasn't taken
away the joy that I have gotten from

1495
01:41:00,600 --> 01:41:02,279
this game. I've also found that
in the time that I've had with it,

1496
01:41:02,319 --> 01:41:04,960
I was surprised with how much.
I've found in love with the characters.

1497
01:41:05,399 --> 01:41:10,680
I haven't had that much time,
but I I really really care about

1498
01:41:11,760 --> 01:41:15,560
the people in my party and making
sure that they're alive and and and keeping

1499
01:41:15,600 --> 01:41:17,920
them safe. So it's it's been
a joy, oh, going on like

1500
01:41:18,000 --> 01:41:20,640
little surprises and being like I saw
a cave, like should I go in

1501
01:41:20,680 --> 01:41:24,520
it? And like, of course
there's a fucking surprise in that cave.

1502
01:41:25,119 --> 01:41:28,920
Bud. You investigate some spaces,
You're gonna get rewarded for it. There's

1503
01:41:28,920 --> 01:41:31,920
also a meal system that I think
you'll enjoy. It's very Zelda. You

1504
01:41:31,960 --> 01:41:36,800
find like wheat and you find uh
berries and shit like that, and every

1505
01:41:36,840 --> 01:41:39,680
time you're at a fire, they're
like, do you want to make jam?

1506
01:41:39,760 --> 01:41:41,960
Or do you want to make a
little pizza pocket? And you can

1507
01:41:41,960 --> 01:41:44,600
make them and then eat them on
the fly when you need them. It's

1508
01:41:44,640 --> 01:41:48,039
a it's a joy, it's a
it's a beautiful game. What does it

1509
01:41:48,159 --> 01:41:53,600
say that I've been thinking the whole
time I've been playing an Armored Core that

1510
01:41:53,760 --> 01:41:57,199
like, Okay, Starfield's on the
back burner. When I'm done with Armored

1511
01:41:57,199 --> 01:42:00,119
Core, I'm going to, uh, I'm going to get get back to

1512
01:42:00,159 --> 01:42:02,520
Starfield and now I'm done with Armored
Corps. I've got new game Pluys.

1513
01:42:02,520 --> 01:42:05,880
Probably not gonna do the whole thing
again. But now you're describing this and

1514
01:42:06,279 --> 01:42:09,640
I'm excited about Like, oh hell
yeah, I can start that right now.

1515
01:42:09,640 --> 01:42:13,279
I'll start to see of Stars tomorrow. Like, what does that say

1516
01:42:13,319 --> 01:42:17,680
about Starfield? I? I agree. I think we're in a weird Uh.

1517
01:42:17,800 --> 01:42:20,479
We're in a weird space right now
where we keep talking about games that

1518
01:42:20,479 --> 01:42:24,199
we're in love with, and then
there's this game that we're also playing because

1519
01:42:24,199 --> 01:42:27,319
I think we're supposed to but don't
over us, but none of us really

1520
01:42:27,319 --> 01:42:30,079
want to play it. We don't
have to like it. I feel like

1521
01:42:30,119 --> 01:42:33,159
I'm supposed to play it. Yeah, I do like it. I do

1522
01:42:33,920 --> 01:42:38,720
want to play certain aspects of it. It's just that it continually hurls so

1523
01:42:38,720 --> 01:42:41,800
many things I don't want to do
at me. But like, literally tomorrow,

1524
01:42:41,840 --> 01:42:44,319
I want to play Sea of Stars. I would rather sit down and

1525
01:42:44,359 --> 01:42:47,319
play Sea of Stars. I've played
Sea of Stars. I agree with everything

1526
01:42:47,319 --> 01:42:50,479
Mary said. I think it's more
worthwhile than Starfield. That's really fun,

1527
01:42:50,640 --> 01:42:55,079
like and knowing that it's the Messenger
team. This kind of like Paper Mario

1528
01:42:55,159 --> 01:42:59,920
Kombat. Such a solid it's such
a solid love letter to Corona Trick.

1529
01:43:00,399 --> 01:43:04,760
And because they nail it so well
and we know this, this dev team

1530
01:43:04,960 --> 01:43:12,680
is capable of handling beloved classics and
paying like homage to them in a beautiful

1531
01:43:12,720 --> 01:43:15,960
way. This is a good risk. I'm telling you, like, this

1532
01:43:15,039 --> 01:43:19,399
is worth the gamble to try it
because it's it's just made by quality team

1533
01:43:19,439 --> 01:43:24,760
and they did it again. I
actually think that in terms of like difficulty,

1534
01:43:24,920 --> 01:43:27,920
this is their opus, Like this
is a crazy thing that they took

1535
01:43:28,000 --> 01:43:30,920
on, Like, who the fuck
is like, we're gonna try and make

1536
01:43:30,000 --> 01:43:33,399
something, uh, you know that
is of the caliber of Corona Trigger.

1537
01:43:33,439 --> 01:43:36,520
Everyone would laugh at you. Everyone'd
be like, are you nuts? Get

1538
01:43:36,520 --> 01:43:40,840
out of here. You're going to
embarrass yourself. This is a good,

1539
01:43:41,119 --> 01:43:44,600
good game. Okay, I'm in. You sold me. You single handedly

1540
01:43:44,640 --> 01:43:45,680
sold me on the game. Yeah. Cool, we'll talk about it.

1541
01:43:45,720 --> 01:43:51,239
The Game of the Year my second
favorite JRPG. I like, what's your

1542
01:43:51,239 --> 01:43:56,600
first Octopath Traveler too? I'm still
obsessed with Oh that's cool. I love

1543
01:43:57,840 --> 01:44:00,880
of the year. I think like
there's room for these games. It's just

1544
01:44:01,000 --> 01:44:05,000
very few and far between that I
get into them because they're very talky and

1545
01:44:05,039 --> 01:44:09,439
because they require like me to pay
attention so much. A lot of times

1546
01:44:09,439 --> 01:44:11,760
I'm like, I don't have the
patience for this. It's like reading a

1547
01:44:11,800 --> 01:44:15,000
book. This game, I haven't
felt like that. I have enjoyed the

1548
01:44:15,039 --> 01:44:20,000
combat. Mary, as a fellow
lover of Dewey games, have you tried

1549
01:44:20,079 --> 01:44:27,800
Armored Corps? No? Should I? I had zero fucking interest. I

1550
01:44:27,960 --> 01:44:32,399
had zero interest right away, Mary, I think you should give it a

1551
01:44:32,399 --> 01:44:35,359
shot. I tell you what a
pact here. All start to have stars,

1552
01:44:35,399 --> 01:44:39,880
you start Armored Corps. All right, wouldn't neither us have to beat

1553
01:44:39,880 --> 01:44:43,199
anything. Let's just give it a
good old, real try to the point

1554
01:44:43,199 --> 01:44:45,319
where we can talk about it if
it comes up at Game of the Year.

1555
01:44:45,840 --> 01:44:53,359
I'll try your stars. You try
Armored Corps. Okay, okay,

1556
01:44:53,560 --> 01:44:58,800
fires A rub I have no idea
what to expect, but I would love

1557
01:44:58,840 --> 01:45:03,319
to hear it next to fires A
Wrangler. Yeah, so many. I

1558
01:45:03,319 --> 01:45:06,840
don't know if I don't get the
planet or what did you say, Mary,

1559
01:45:08,039 --> 01:45:10,920
fires of Rubicon? I know that's
name of the game, and I

1560
01:45:10,920 --> 01:45:14,800
said fires of Wrangler. Those are
two jeep types. Oh that was a

1561
01:45:14,920 --> 01:45:26,960
joke, ohepdcast. Do you guys
want to do emails. I got a

1562
01:45:28,840 --> 01:45:38,560
a funny joke arboard Caryota, Corolla, fires of Pinto, fires of Dodd

1563
01:45:38,640 --> 01:45:45,000
Ram, fires of Rav four actually
sounds pretty sick. That sounds cool fires

1564
01:45:45,000 --> 01:45:56,399
of Corolla. I'm gonna be fires
of CenTra. I don't know enough about

1565
01:45:56,439 --> 01:46:00,800
cars. I don't know enough car
makes and models to keep that joke going.

1566
01:46:00,880 --> 01:46:03,600
To be honest with you, now, I'm alone, so no one

1567
01:46:03,640 --> 01:46:15,600
could enjoy it anyway. Well would
I even say armored core fires of Chevrolet.

1568
01:46:15,800 --> 01:46:24,520
I don't know any kinds of Chevrolets. I feel like I know the

1569
01:46:24,600 --> 01:46:32,720
fancy cars from like rap songs.
You know, you know, armored core

1570
01:46:32,920 --> 01:46:39,840
fires of Lamborghini. But I don't
think that works for a game at all.

1571
01:46:40,000 --> 01:46:49,720
I'm still alone. I am alone, and I don't have anything interesting

1572
01:46:49,760 --> 01:46:53,840
to say because I don't know enough
about cars to keep this joke going.

1573
01:46:57,279 --> 01:47:08,119
I wish it was about something that
I knew, or subjects about what other

1574
01:47:08,239 --> 01:47:15,560
cars are there. I think there's
too many cars. Uh, Lightning McQueen

1575
01:47:15,680 --> 01:47:18,399
is a car, but I don't
think that that's a Maker model. I

1576
01:47:18,439 --> 01:47:28,239
think that's a Disney character Armored core. Lightning McQueen is not a bad name.

1577
01:47:30,920 --> 01:47:38,520
I would buy that I'm not going
to talk about this anymore, and

1578
01:47:38,560 --> 01:47:42,199
then getting into emails as usually you
can run through fires get cast at gmail

1579
01:47:42,239 --> 01:47:46,840
dot com pretty questions, comments,
concerns, corrections. We got a bunch

1580
01:47:47,560 --> 01:47:53,319
since last week the mount Rushmore,
a fast food really waylate our community,

1581
01:47:53,359 --> 01:47:59,920
it looks like. But we also
got several really good, uh good questions

1582
01:48:00,119 --> 01:48:06,560
today that I'm sure we'll not be
contentious whatsoever. This first one, though,

1583
01:48:06,800 --> 01:48:12,560
is from Justin from San Marcos,
Texas, which I left the entire

1584
01:48:12,600 --> 01:48:14,600
thing here. It looks kind of
long. Mary, I'd like you to

1585
01:48:14,640 --> 01:48:17,680
read this. However, If San
Marcos, Texas is ringing a bell,

1586
01:48:17,800 --> 01:48:26,399
that's because we, uh we read
something from someone from there. And uh,

1587
01:48:26,600 --> 01:48:30,000
I remember every city from every email. It's everyone sent to any podcast

1588
01:48:30,079 --> 01:48:34,800
I've ever been on. Sorry,
so it just came in. The hell

1589
01:48:35,079 --> 01:48:40,720
happened? So it just came in
because this is an office. The fuck

1590
01:48:40,880 --> 01:48:47,359
don't they know we're recording fires?
Ninja? Was it mister beasts doing there?

1591
01:48:47,560 --> 01:48:51,359
I've reached the end of my list
of streamers. I hope that's about

1592
01:48:51,399 --> 01:48:56,399
it. We're famous ones, but
I'm like, I'm all like hungered in

1593
01:48:56,399 --> 01:49:00,439
this chair like a little bit.
Was it Paul Logan or Jake Logan Logan?

1594
01:49:00,439 --> 01:49:04,640
I know he's a wrestler, I
know him. Was there just names?

1595
01:49:04,760 --> 01:49:10,840
No? Was it? Was it
Bryce McKinley, angry video game nerd?

1596
01:49:12,039 --> 01:49:14,560
That seems like that could be a
real one. He was a guy?

1597
01:49:14,800 --> 01:49:19,079
Was it someone from Friends? Per
second? Was not any of them?

1598
01:49:19,399 --> 01:49:29,520
Someone from kind of Funny from the
Besties? Yeah, it was Ninja.

1599
01:49:29,560 --> 01:49:35,640
We already discussed. Sorry, he's
the CEO of the Besties. Oh

1600
01:49:35,680 --> 01:49:40,039
okay, yeah, they talked about
it all the time. Was Ninja?

1601
01:49:43,159 --> 01:49:49,079
Oh? Why Dan's so proud that
he like stumped you? Oh? Yeah,

1602
01:49:49,680 --> 01:49:55,319
Well, I mean I think it's
hard to describe because I think,

1603
01:49:56,199 --> 01:50:00,439
yes, I think you could say
that about any person who had this huge

1604
01:50:01,039 --> 01:50:04,359
leap into stardom, which is like, are they maintaining it? It's such

1605
01:50:04,359 --> 01:50:08,359
a ridiculous question to ask, Like, to get there at all is such

1606
01:50:08,359 --> 01:50:13,520
an enormous feat. Dan, What's
what's Michael Kaine's next movie? Ooh?

1607
01:50:15,760 --> 01:50:19,239
If Michael Kaine dies before Monday.
No, I'm not saying. I'm just

1608
01:50:19,239 --> 01:50:23,439
saying, like, I love that
you like got her for not knowing what

1609
01:50:23,560 --> 01:50:25,479
Ninja's up. No, I didn't
get her no her, no, no,

1610
01:50:25,479 --> 01:50:28,640
no, that was what that sound
was. That sounds like it sounds

1611
01:50:28,680 --> 01:50:30,800
like a start might have fallen a
little bit. It wasn't that, like

1612
01:50:34,479 --> 01:50:41,000
because Goose is cooked. But that's
what we say about everybody who's ever made

1613
01:50:41,039 --> 01:50:45,760
it. Like, that's the conundrum
be cooked as a society, have done

1614
01:50:45,960 --> 01:50:49,920
two stars or to like influencers at
the very least, which is time.

1615
01:50:51,119 --> 01:50:55,439
We're like bitter about them for getting
there at all, right, because when

1616
01:50:55,600 --> 01:50:59,079
somebody makes it, you say stuff
like they never deserved it, and then

1617
01:50:59,479 --> 01:51:01,880
we all for the drop off,
which is like they fell off. You

1618
01:51:01,920 --> 01:51:06,000
know, you're an ever what you
wear, but people say that about us

1619
01:51:06,199 --> 01:51:11,319
and like you know, the sites
and everything. So we're all we're all

1620
01:51:11,760 --> 01:51:16,319
we're all fallen stars living it up. I don't need any of him to

1621
01:51:16,359 --> 01:51:20,359
stream anymore. I'm fine without him. But that's interesting, Like who is

1622
01:51:20,399 --> 01:51:25,119
someone that like because you always hear
about these like, oh, excut is

1623
01:51:25,239 --> 01:51:28,000
the biggest thing in the world,
and like, but then you hear about

1624
01:51:28,000 --> 01:51:30,520
these guys for like two years,
then you don't hear about him, So

1625
01:51:30,640 --> 01:51:33,680
like, who is someone who Yeah, who is someone that's like had the

1626
01:51:33,760 --> 01:51:43,600
longevity you knows are in that space, but noted not. I think a

1627
01:51:43,600 --> 01:51:47,479
lot of the ones that are actually
uh doing a really good over time are

1628
01:51:47,520 --> 01:51:51,039
maybe not the names that you read
about in the papers. Day nine has

1629
01:51:51,079 --> 01:51:57,039
been extremely successful, has been able
to do this for a living and hasn't

1630
01:51:57,079 --> 01:52:00,039
faltered his entire career. And he's
a really good example of someone who's like,

1631
01:52:00,079 --> 01:52:04,159
I take breaks and I this is
my career. But maybe he's not

1632
01:52:04,239 --> 01:52:10,800
in the newspapers like these other people. But he's also he's maintaining that level

1633
01:52:10,840 --> 01:52:16,000
of like cool stardoms. He's kind
of like, oh, you know,

1634
01:52:16,039 --> 01:52:18,960
Beauty Pie made a bajillion dollars and
showed up on Colbert and then like,

1635
01:52:19,000 --> 01:52:21,199
I don't know if he's still a
big deal or anything. You fly too

1636
01:52:21,199 --> 01:52:24,560
close to the sun, you know
what I mean. Like, I think

1637
01:52:24,560 --> 01:52:28,359
it's ideal to like stay in that
that neutral zone where you're like, some

1638
01:52:28,399 --> 01:52:32,399
people know me, but not a
lot of like Terry Funk. Terry he

1639
01:52:33,720 --> 01:52:41,000
is not the great great comparison.
He burned out in the most literal sins

1640
01:52:41,000 --> 01:52:44,840
ever. Yeah, I feel like
you get to a certain we get here

1641
01:52:45,640 --> 01:52:50,520
because he killed them. Yeah,
Mary read this thing from Justin. This

1642
01:52:50,600 --> 01:52:56,319
is not a question or anything.
This is a calling back to a recent

1643
01:52:56,359 --> 01:53:00,680
episode or someone said they claimed that
they were the only fan from San Marcos,

1644
01:53:00,720 --> 01:53:03,640
Texas, and I want Justin to
get his time in the spotlight to

1645
01:53:03,800 --> 01:53:14,159
call okay former reader out okay.
This is in response to the reckless slander

1646
01:53:14,279 --> 01:53:20,239
recently befouling this podcast from Andrew parentheses
if that is his real name, parentheses

1647
01:53:20,439 --> 01:53:26,800
from quote San Marcos, Texas,
parentheses if that is his real city and

1648
01:53:26,920 --> 01:53:33,000
state, and parentheses who had the
goal to proclaim himself fires gives only San

1649
01:53:33,159 --> 01:53:40,319
Marcos fam This is very funny already. While I have been advised not to

1650
01:53:40,359 --> 01:53:44,760
speak publicly on this case as it
works its way through the circuit courts,

1651
01:53:44,840 --> 01:53:47,880
I must point out that the first
email from San Marcos, Texas which you

1652
01:53:47,920 --> 01:53:54,479
read on the show was mine.
I'm the guy who had a probably delicious

1653
01:53:54,479 --> 01:53:59,279
bowl of mushroom bisk ruined by Dan's
decision to suddenly chat at length about the

1654
01:53:59,319 --> 01:54:02,079
composition of raw sewage. I think
that was an episode I wasn't on.

1655
01:54:02,119 --> 01:54:11,199
That doesn't that was probably raw sewage. Every third episode that bisk was heated

1656
01:54:11,319 --> 01:54:15,920
in a microwave oven in San Marcos, Texas. Only to be poured down

1657
01:54:15,920 --> 01:54:20,319
a sink in San Marcos, Texas
by a technically hungry but nauseous man in

1658
01:54:20,520 --> 01:54:26,279
San Marcos, Texas who immediately recognized
the fire escape community would want to know

1659
01:54:26,359 --> 01:54:30,640
about it, right, and who
would think such a thing if not fire

1660
01:54:30,760 --> 01:54:39,159
Escapes original and biggest fire escape fan. I'll tell you none other than Justin

1661
01:54:39,640 --> 01:54:47,079
from San Marcos, Texas. And
if I see you in public, first

1662
01:54:47,239 --> 01:54:51,319
round at the tap room is on
me. If I see you in private,

1663
01:54:51,800 --> 01:55:00,119
ready yourself for death. Bellicos regards
Justin, the original fan from San

1664
01:55:00,239 --> 01:55:05,000
Marcos, Texas. This is brilliant. What do we have to do for

1665
01:55:05,399 --> 01:55:11,239
Andrew and Justin to meet on a
street corner in San Marco's ideally wearing fire

1666
01:55:11,279 --> 01:55:15,720
skipt take a picture of them doing
like a normal combat matchup screen, angry

1667
01:55:15,720 --> 01:55:19,119
at each other, and then tweeted
to us, which we can retweet.

1668
01:55:19,119 --> 01:55:23,159
Does ever has done everything you can? I mean, if Andrew doesn't meet

1669
01:55:23,199 --> 01:55:26,600
him at the tap room, Capital
T Capital R, I think Andrew's just

1670
01:55:26,720 --> 01:55:31,680
kind of a baby my thing because
yeah, Andrew's kind of blowing up Justin's

1671
01:55:31,760 --> 01:55:35,039
spot. Well, Justin and Andrew, if you both want to contact each

1672
01:55:35,039 --> 01:55:40,199
other film you fail us that you're
that you want to us to share information

1673
01:55:40,199 --> 01:55:43,079
and we can hook you guys up. If you both wanted film your fight,

1674
01:55:43,560 --> 01:55:46,720
send it to me privately. I'll
do what I do with those kind

1675
01:55:46,720 --> 01:55:51,680
of videos. And then of the
death match gets some get surprize. Oh

1676
01:55:51,720 --> 01:55:57,880
yeah, you're not dead is the
prize? No? Just kid? All

1677
01:55:57,960 --> 01:56:00,439
right, Dan, thank you just
I don't know if I should thank you,

1678
01:56:00,479 --> 01:56:08,159
but that was justin uh. Dan? Read this one from Jack from

1679
01:56:08,199 --> 01:56:12,239
London. Hey, Mary, Dan, and Mike. The bad one question,

1680
01:56:13,880 --> 01:56:16,159
okay, everyone gets a turn.
The bath toup question from a few

1681
01:56:16,159 --> 01:56:21,800
episodes ago has been bouncing around my
servile. No, no, Dan,

1682
01:56:21,920 --> 01:56:26,039
I think you miss Get on your
carpet square, eat your fucking fruit.

1683
01:56:26,079 --> 01:56:30,439
Snatural, Let me keep reading.
Fan has the talking stick ahead dance all

1684
01:56:30,520 --> 01:56:33,600
right? The bath top question from
a few episodes ago has been bouncing around

1685
01:56:33,600 --> 01:56:38,119
my circle of friends for weeks now, and I'm fairly sure. Okay,

1686
01:56:38,199 --> 01:56:41,439
for those who aren't patrons watching the
videos, thing, Mike is mocking me

1687
01:56:41,640 --> 01:56:45,039
while I'm turn your chair around.
Turn your chair around for the duration of

1688
01:56:45,079 --> 01:56:46,760
this. All right, Mary,
keep an eye on him. All right,

1689
01:56:47,600 --> 01:56:51,039
I'm fairly sure this has caused a
noticeable drop in productivity in my office

1690
01:56:51,079 --> 01:56:56,319
as well. Today someone asked a
new question if can we see his lugging

1691
01:56:56,439 --> 01:56:59,279
thing for his spone? Did you
catch that he just lugged into a sphone?

1692
01:57:00,319 --> 01:57:04,359
All right, probably but jeweled that's
this thing. Yeah. Today someone

1693
01:57:04,359 --> 01:57:09,199
asked a new question, if you
had to compete, you know, that's

1694
01:57:09,279 --> 01:57:14,920
he's starting around it. For those
watching the video version, he's being a

1695
01:57:15,039 --> 01:57:19,880
scamp. Read the email. Today
someone asked a new question, if you

1696
01:57:19,960 --> 01:57:26,479
had to compete in the Olympics and
not be discovered as not a professional athlete,

1697
01:57:26,920 --> 01:57:29,600
what sport would you choose? So
you have to compete in the Olympics

1698
01:57:29,920 --> 01:57:34,800
and not be discovered as not so
you basically have to like it. Okay,

1699
01:57:35,000 --> 01:57:38,760
yeah, keep reading because he clarifies. Okay, what sport would you

1700
01:57:38,800 --> 01:57:41,800
choose? What would be your strategy
for avoiding detection. Let's say let's a

1701
01:57:41,840 --> 01:57:43,680
hit Man level, but you have
to like, you know, you gotta

1702
01:57:43,720 --> 01:57:45,680
pass as whatever. Let's say you
get three months to prepare and you can

1703
01:57:45,680 --> 01:57:48,720
spend some money on anything you might
need. Personally, I'd be aiming for

1704
01:57:48,760 --> 01:57:53,359
an early catastrophic injury on something like
the high dive in order to minimize my

1705
01:57:53,399 --> 01:57:57,199
screen time, but I appreciate this
as high risk. Keep the podcast coming

1706
01:57:57,199 --> 01:58:00,720
and Danny have to watch a Taskmaster
Jack from London. This is a great

1707
01:58:00,800 --> 01:58:05,720
question. Yeah, so we have
to like seem possible as like not just

1708
01:58:05,800 --> 01:58:10,880
some schmove that got shoved into the
Olympics as a break but avoid embarrassing yourself

1709
01:58:11,319 --> 01:58:13,880
on Yeah, and with three months
to prepare, Okay, you're like,

1710
01:58:14,159 --> 01:58:17,439
what's really discharge versus the embarrassment?
Yeah? Can it be a team?

1711
01:58:17,520 --> 01:58:21,640
Yeah? Anything in the Olympics.
M okay. I My first thought was

1712
01:58:21,680 --> 01:58:25,479
like, oh, like shot put
is just throwing something, but then like

1713
01:58:25,520 --> 01:58:29,600
the body composition of a shot putter
and the ability to throw a heavy thing,

1714
01:58:30,079 --> 01:58:31,479
Like, there's no way in three
months I'm getting to a point where

1715
01:58:31,479 --> 01:58:36,880
I'm passible as a shot putter or
that's not one absolutely not. Your instincts

1716
01:58:36,880 --> 01:58:42,600
are spot on there. Yeah,
thanks to Mary for confirming what you already

1717
01:58:42,640 --> 01:58:45,920
knew that I'm a week set.
But I'm I'm like, I don't know,

1718
01:58:45,079 --> 01:58:48,439
I don't know. Somehow I had
like just such a horrid face when

1719
01:58:48,439 --> 01:58:54,760
it even came up as a wouldn't
work that, but like, yeah,

1720
01:58:54,800 --> 01:58:58,920
we know. Thanks for walking us. What are you saying? What do

1721
01:58:58,960 --> 01:59:01,920
you see here? Here's my h
So I guess you know doing the four

1722
01:59:02,039 --> 01:59:05,720
hundred meter is out for me because
even in three months, I don't know

1723
01:59:05,760 --> 01:59:12,319
if I could win that. We're
so to his question, like what is

1724
01:59:12,479 --> 01:59:16,279
what is a an event you could
spend an in ornament inordinate amount of money

1725
01:59:16,319 --> 01:59:21,039
on to get good at in three
months you have all the money ever you

1726
01:59:21,079 --> 01:59:28,479
could get like bionic surgery. But
he's not saying that. That's actually not

1727
01:59:28,520 --> 01:59:31,159
what he says. He says you
can spend some money. He doesn't say

1728
01:59:31,159 --> 01:59:36,159
you get money. He says we
could spend money, spend different question.

1729
01:59:36,199 --> 01:59:40,439
In my head, I think he's
really saying, like just like something that

1730
01:59:40,479 --> 01:59:44,239
you think you could hide in the
background in and I think curling because it's

1731
01:59:44,239 --> 01:59:48,119
a team sport. It's really Winter
Olympics. You can Winter Olympics. That

1732
01:59:48,199 --> 01:59:53,479
you can that you can use the
broom. I can learn how to broom.

1733
01:59:54,720 --> 01:59:59,840
That could be really months. That's
a good one. Do they get

1734
01:59:59,880 --> 02:00:02,199
a metal? Way the brewers get
metals? Yes, the team gets a

1735
02:00:02,239 --> 02:00:09,079
metal. It's a game sport that's
valid. Yeah, that's good. Non

1736
02:00:09,199 --> 02:00:13,279
Mary, you answered half the question, what would you do to have to

1737
02:00:13,520 --> 02:00:17,199
bow out of the Olympics to non
embarrass yourself? Which one like, would

1738
02:00:17,199 --> 02:00:24,079
I not join because there's no way
that I could pretend? No. The

1739
02:00:24,399 --> 02:00:27,520
question is like, okay, so
you have proven you have gotten you have

1740
02:00:27,760 --> 02:00:31,119
kind of like buy a fluke,
gotten onto this curling team. What would

1741
02:00:31,119 --> 02:00:36,640
you do to either get injured or
like maybe that don't see that. That's

1742
02:00:36,640 --> 02:00:40,600
his question. It's like, what
would you do if you've read this question

1743
02:00:40,640 --> 02:00:44,920
prof Olympics. He gave a personal
anecdote about Oh, I would aim if

1744
02:00:44,920 --> 02:00:48,439
you had to compete in the Olympics
and not be discovered as not a professional

1745
02:00:48,479 --> 02:00:51,880
athlete, what sport would you choose? What would be your strategy for avoiding

1746
02:00:51,920 --> 02:00:58,920
detection? Personally? I would casting, Okay, I read that, Oh

1747
02:00:59,079 --> 02:01:01,199
no, I see you're answering it
with like one you read it like two

1748
02:01:01,239 --> 02:01:05,680
birds one stone, Like, oh, so you're saying the Boomers could get

1749
02:01:05,680 --> 02:01:09,920
into Olympics by doing that and also
be avoid detection by not being an athlete

1750
02:01:09,920 --> 02:01:14,039
because they're Boomers, right, Because
there would and I'm fine. I think

1751
02:01:14,039 --> 02:01:16,600
I would hide in the background and
no one would say she's cheating. They

1752
02:01:16,600 --> 02:01:19,439
would just say I guess she's as
good as the other boers. Bad.

1753
02:01:19,520 --> 02:01:28,560
Okay, I would just blend in, Yeah, I feel like we're insulting

1754
02:01:28,840 --> 02:01:33,359
burmers. Maybe maybe they're not that's
the term. I think they're the flankers.

1755
02:01:35,039 --> 02:01:38,760
Uh yeah, that's a good answer, I think, but we're probably

1756
02:01:38,800 --> 02:01:44,079
pissing some curlers off. Would I
think I would do pull vaulting and my

1757
02:01:44,159 --> 02:01:45,520
sister was a high school track coach. I would just ask her how to

1758
02:01:45,560 --> 02:01:48,720
do it. I think I'd passed, and you would, and you would,

1759
02:01:48,760 --> 02:01:53,199
and you would get admitted into the
Olympics by just asking your little sister

1760
02:01:53,239 --> 02:01:56,239
how to pull vault No, I
think, aren't we thrown into the Olympics,

1761
02:01:56,439 --> 02:01:59,760
like we're no no, no,
He says, Okay, let me

1762
02:02:00,560 --> 02:02:05,800
you might give us read. I
think Mike's you gotta be You've got to

1763
02:02:05,800 --> 02:02:09,880
get into the Olympics if you had
to go. He doesn't say, if

1764
02:02:09,880 --> 02:02:12,199
you have, you get in.
You're right. That makes me You were

1765
02:02:12,199 --> 02:02:15,880
getting thrust into this thing and you
have three months to do the best you

1766
02:02:15,920 --> 02:02:18,800
can. Okay, Okay clearly shows
up and says you're a pole flter in

1767
02:02:18,800 --> 02:02:23,039
the Olympics. Guys, I think
I've proven beyond a doubt that I'm the

1768
02:02:23,039 --> 02:02:28,239
moron tonight. You're right? Okay? Is there an Olympic sport for being

1769
02:02:28,279 --> 02:02:30,359
able to read a paragraph? I
don't even know if you do that?

1770
02:02:30,680 --> 02:02:33,640
Jack Jack from one, and I'm
very sorry. I've been sucking this up.

1771
02:02:34,119 --> 02:02:38,439
Okay, now he's got the sound
effect, right. I could read

1772
02:02:38,560 --> 02:02:41,960
in the Olympics. That'd be sick. Okay, Dan, But here's my

1773
02:02:42,039 --> 02:02:45,239
question, what would you do to
avoid looking like an idiot in the poll?

1774
02:02:45,279 --> 02:02:47,840
Will just be good at it?
I'm gonna ask Kayla. I'd be

1775
02:02:47,920 --> 02:02:54,039
like, Hey, what do I
do? Dan? You're going to face

1776
02:02:54,119 --> 02:02:56,720
plant and you're gonna be hurt.
And you're gonna face plant and you're gonna

1777
02:02:56,720 --> 02:03:00,239
be hurt. What is your real
How would you really? I'm okay,

1778
02:03:00,760 --> 02:03:03,920
Olympic No, go back to pole
vault? Stop jumping? How could you?

1779
02:03:04,039 --> 02:03:06,560
I couldn't, There's no. The
joke was, that's the thing I

1780
02:03:06,600 --> 02:03:11,720
could be the worst at. You
would impale yourself in front of America and

1781
02:03:11,760 --> 02:03:16,720
they would make T shirts with you
on it. Okay, I I think

1782
02:03:16,840 --> 02:03:20,840
I could get like in three months, I could at least learn what my

1783
02:03:21,119 --> 02:03:28,119
form is supposed to somewhat look like
with the javelin throw. But my here's

1784
02:03:28,159 --> 02:03:32,479
my here's what I would do from
out on this one would be from my

1785
02:03:32,640 --> 02:03:40,279
understanding, you get two throws or
something, and I'm making to make the

1786
02:03:40,319 --> 02:03:42,840
first one look like a fluke that
kicks me out. I would have to

1787
02:03:42,880 --> 02:03:47,640
spear somebody in the audience with the
first throwin. Oh, I got one,

1788
02:03:47,680 --> 02:03:54,800
I got one. Okay, is
she's standing there? What's that baby

1789
02:03:54,920 --> 02:03:58,520
doing there? I got the answer. I got the answer. You can

1790
02:03:58,520 --> 02:04:01,000
spend money on whatever you want.
It's fine if you get out by some

1791
02:04:01,079 --> 02:04:04,199
catastrophe injury thing and and they take
you out. You don't actually have to

1792
02:04:04,239 --> 02:04:08,960
compete to what I'm doing. I'm
signing up for the hurdles, so I'm

1793
02:04:08,960 --> 02:04:13,800
gonna do the hurdle competition. And
right before the opening gun, I've paid

1794
02:04:13,920 --> 02:04:19,359
Mary to Tanya Harding my knee.
That's good, that's the answer. That's

1795
02:04:19,439 --> 02:04:23,880
goods. Yeah, but yeah,
no, that's yeah, I did it.

1796
02:04:24,039 --> 02:04:27,840
Did it? So you use the
money. That's really I mean,

1797
02:04:28,279 --> 02:04:33,600
I guess that's a more one to
one yea. Make them think like they're

1798
02:04:33,640 --> 02:04:40,920
just trying to Yeah, I want
to be the Tanya Harding. Yeah,

1799
02:04:40,920 --> 02:04:44,520
that's what I want to be.
Pull vaulting, and then why do we

1800
02:04:44,640 --> 02:04:46,720
keep moving off of pull vaulting when
you don't need to think hurdles. I

1801
02:04:46,720 --> 02:04:49,279
think me, I'm down there,
my knee is out already because I'm ready.

1802
02:04:49,319 --> 02:04:55,239
I'm ready to go. I'm ready
to hurdle. You need Yeah,

1803
02:04:55,279 --> 02:05:00,199
but this mask really cool woman comes
out and just smash name can dress up

1804
02:05:00,239 --> 02:05:02,159
like sub zero or whatever you want. Yeah, wait, I was,

1805
02:05:02,399 --> 02:05:04,760
and I was Rudo. Run out
of there. I've got one. I

1806
02:05:04,880 --> 02:05:11,119
got one, I got one.
I am doing the javelin throw Stop.

1807
02:05:11,439 --> 02:05:15,880
My javelin goes off course hits Dan
in the calf while he's rinding up for

1808
02:05:15,920 --> 02:05:21,840
the pole vault. They don't do
them simultaneously. I don't know. I

1809
02:05:21,880 --> 02:05:25,760
don't think that would line up.
Probably, Yeah, they got to do

1810
02:05:25,800 --> 02:05:28,399
something simultaneously. It's a lot of
people from around the world, not all

1811
02:05:28,399 --> 02:05:34,279
of the same physical space where they're
throwing sharp sticks. Uh, have you

1812
02:05:34,319 --> 02:05:41,560
ever been in the Olympics some kind
of like freak movie that you guys are

1813
02:05:41,680 --> 02:05:45,319
concocting where you guys are like trying
to make sure that you can both escape

1814
02:05:45,359 --> 02:05:49,279
the Olympics without looking like absolute idiots, and you both get arrested and then

1815
02:05:49,359 --> 02:05:57,079
I win a gold sounds like an
amazing Hitman level. Shuffling girl. God,

1816
02:05:57,119 --> 02:06:00,119
the Olympics would be a really we
talked about this on like episod SO

1817
02:06:00,319 --> 02:06:02,039
thirty or something. What would be
a good Hitman level that hasn't been done

1818
02:06:02,119 --> 02:06:08,159
Olympic winter, winter and summer.
Yes, yes, but I think pole

1819
02:06:08,239 --> 02:06:11,880
vaulting would be more interesting if there
were spears flying at them while they're running

1820
02:06:11,880 --> 02:06:17,840
towards the Yeah, all sports would
be Yeah, that's true. All sports

1821
02:06:17,920 --> 02:06:23,840
could be improved by a couple of
good jacks. People wouldn't be so psyched

1822
02:06:23,880 --> 02:06:27,800
about Aaron Rodgers on the Jets if
they're javelins flying at him during a couple

1823
02:06:27,840 --> 02:06:30,159
of crocs in a pit, you
know what I mean? Imagine that the

1824
02:06:30,239 --> 02:06:31,760
offensive coordinators like, hey, I
think they're blitzing. Also, they're like

1825
02:06:31,800 --> 02:06:35,399
seven spears flying at you right now, so you should hike the ball and

1826
02:06:35,479 --> 02:06:40,439
throw it and got perry them.
Olympics would be so much better if when

1827
02:06:40,560 --> 02:06:45,399
you're pole vaulting, you're pole vaulting
over something that would severely injure you if

1828
02:06:45,399 --> 02:06:50,079
you couldn't get over it. White
hospital, the plastic thing you have to

1829
02:06:50,439 --> 02:06:55,399
it's not plastic it's molten, not
molten, because it wouldn't be a poll

1830
02:06:55,439 --> 02:07:01,399
anymore. But it's white hot long
jump. But there's a bunch of baby

1831
02:07:01,600 --> 02:07:09,720
crap. You have to Mario long
jump over a bunch of babies. I

1832
02:07:09,439 --> 02:07:15,359
can imagine the coach and the babies
have spears that they can poke you with.

1833
02:07:16,880 --> 02:07:23,039
Man Mike Mhardy's Olympic dreams were cut
horribly short when he smashed a baby.

1834
02:07:24,000 --> 02:07:28,760
Like three of them jump and that
just absolutely crushed him wearing those spiked

1835
02:07:28,800 --> 02:07:31,680
shoes, and the moon just caves. The baby's hidden. Mario's running,

1836
02:07:31,720 --> 02:07:35,159
Mario's running at the platform, He's
gonna jump off, and the coach here's

1837
02:07:36,039 --> 02:07:42,079
He's like, no, don't do
the triple jump, and then he does

1838
02:07:43,039 --> 02:07:46,439
and then just smashes an infant.
Let the butts up. You actually hat

1839
02:07:46,520 --> 02:07:53,520
to see you again. Then I
sweep it out. Yes there go,

1840
02:07:54,359 --> 02:08:03,119
I'm so good, Yes and seen. Thanks for your thank you jack from

1841
02:08:00,439 --> 02:08:05,560
ye All right, go on,
that's a good one. Which question?

1842
02:08:07,479 --> 02:08:09,039
Oh this is a fun one?
All right? Hey? Firstly, I

1843
02:08:09,119 --> 02:08:11,319
love the podcast. Every time I
see a new one in my feed,

1844
02:08:11,359 --> 02:08:15,199
my half hour drive home each day
feels like it flies by and I'm actually

1845
02:08:15,199 --> 02:08:18,079
map when my Friday drive home ends
before the podcast does. If you ever

1846
02:08:18,079 --> 02:08:22,720
get down to Melbourne, Dan,
you need to try an HSP Mike.

1847
02:08:22,840 --> 02:08:28,000
I think you'd like this as a
boozy snack shaved lamb on top of chips,

1848
02:08:28,159 --> 02:08:31,359
smothered in cheese, garlic sauce,
and any of hot chili, sweet

1849
02:08:31,439 --> 02:08:37,279
chili barbecue sauce. Dan, sounds
really love sweet chili sauce over there.

1850
02:08:39,159 --> 02:08:41,119
Yeah, sounds amazing, So fire
skate. My question to you is if

1851
02:08:41,199 --> 02:08:46,159
your hands had to permanently excrete a
small amount of non bodily liquid from your

1852
02:08:46,199 --> 02:08:50,640
palms at a slow rate, what
would it be? Cheers Steve from Melbourne

1853
02:08:52,279 --> 02:09:00,680
Sanitizer pent I'll just be printing,
printing liquid gold. Hold out of these

1854
02:09:00,680 --> 02:09:03,640
fangs, like sure, I'll be
clammy, but like everybody will want to

1855
02:09:03,640 --> 02:09:07,279
shake these myths. You can do. You can do straight up. Okay,

1856
02:09:07,279 --> 02:09:09,159
I didn't think about the benefit thing. I was just trying to think

1857
02:09:09,159 --> 02:09:11,840
of the least gross thing. Okay, I'm talking about of course you did.

1858
02:09:13,439 --> 02:09:16,880
Well. No, I would like
to get rich off this freakish thing

1859
02:09:16,920 --> 02:09:20,319
going on with my hands. Liquid
gold, though I think you would need

1860
02:09:22,640 --> 02:09:26,199
I don't know how liquid gold works. You're gonna hire like a smelter whoever

1861
02:09:26,239 --> 02:09:31,560
turns it into real gold, or
hire a smelter. Mike, guess you

1862
02:09:31,640 --> 02:09:37,920
know a smelter. I'm saying,
baby squashing, non illiterate piece of ship.

1863
02:09:46,399 --> 02:09:48,720
You just thank you. Wait,
I was thinking, what is the

1864
02:09:48,760 --> 02:09:52,439
thing that be the easiest to get
rich off of, because like you need

1865
02:09:52,479 --> 02:09:54,600
to figure out the liquid gold turn
to real goil thing. Oh yeah,

1866
02:09:54,600 --> 02:10:00,359
it's oil. It's oil. Wait, would I be a super you just

1867
02:10:00,359 --> 02:10:03,439
tell me if oil is flammable.
I know gasoline is, but I don't

1868
02:10:03,439 --> 02:10:07,720
really know the same thing. But
I think I'm gonna go with oil.

1869
02:10:07,920 --> 02:10:09,880
I think I'm going with oils.
Dude, you nasty. I would never

1870
02:10:09,960 --> 02:10:15,479
fucking want to be like hanging out
with a dude who's secreting oil out of

1871
02:10:15,479 --> 02:10:18,119
his pores. I would. I
would do the oil thing until I know

1872
02:10:18,279 --> 02:10:24,359
what I mean, petrol petrol until
I was ritching. But stink, No,

1873
02:10:24,479 --> 02:10:26,039
Dan, you don't. It's a
temporary thing. The way I'm gonna

1874
02:10:26,079 --> 02:10:30,520
do it. No, I'm gonna
secrete the oil into tubs and shut up.

1875
02:10:30,720 --> 02:10:33,399
I'm gonna put the oil, the
hand oil into tubs and sell it.

1876
02:10:33,560 --> 02:10:37,119
Until I'm rich enough to go to
a doctor some doctor nick situation where

1877
02:10:37,159 --> 02:10:39,920
he'll take my hands off and give
me just robot of hands. Terminate your

1878
02:10:39,920 --> 02:10:43,840
hands, and then I don't have
to cut your hands off. So there

1879
02:10:43,920 --> 02:10:46,920
was little riching about cutting your hands
off. Okay, that seems fair.

1880
02:10:48,000 --> 02:10:50,800
There's your hands permanently excreed a small
amount of bodily fluid. If it's coming

1881
02:10:50,840 --> 02:10:54,680
from somewhere in your body and it
coming out your hands, it says coming

1882
02:10:54,720 --> 02:10:56,680
from your palms. I think if
you cut off your palms, that's safe.

1883
02:10:56,680 --> 02:11:01,439
That's no what your body might fill
up. If something is permanently coming

1884
02:11:01,439 --> 02:11:03,319
out of your palms. The source
of that liquid is not in your palms,

1885
02:11:03,319 --> 02:11:05,960
So cutting off your hands is not
going to but it would keep it

1886
02:11:05,960 --> 02:11:11,800
in the rest of your body.
You might like balloon up it comes from,

1887
02:11:11,920 --> 02:11:15,039
Yes, it has to be.
It wouldn't be in your hands if

1888
02:11:15,079 --> 02:11:18,439
it's permanent. Maybe it wasn't cut
off my palm balls. Yeah, you

1889
02:11:18,439 --> 02:11:22,000
can just cut everything off the neck
and just have a robot body. I

1890
02:11:22,000 --> 02:11:26,279
would you if you cut down far
enough, you could get the secretion planned

1891
02:11:26,319 --> 02:11:31,159
out. Okay, for like a
catheter thing on your arms, you know,

1892
02:11:31,239 --> 02:11:35,279
that's like screak about the sacrifice by
not having either of your hands and

1893
02:11:35,359 --> 02:11:39,479
being like now I'm solving it.
Like no, no, no, no

1894
02:11:39,479 --> 02:11:41,359
no, no no no no no, Dan said, robot hands. He's

1895
02:11:41,399 --> 02:11:46,039
assuming like these are going to be
cybernanic problem because he's an idiot. He's

1896
02:11:46,039 --> 02:11:48,439
not gonna get robot hands. He's
just not gonna have hands. You're rich

1897
02:11:48,560 --> 02:11:52,039
enough to get mental hands. But
I can control with my brain. This

1898
02:11:52,079 --> 02:12:00,479
is this is your Okay, for
argument's sake, let me amend Steve email

1899
02:12:00,479 --> 02:12:03,159
a bit and say that the source
of the oils, it's your heart is

1900
02:12:03,199 --> 02:12:07,439
pumping it out. So oh so
that's come out of your heart. The

1901
02:12:07,479 --> 02:12:11,760
source of the liquid kill you?
No, your body is adapted to it

1902
02:12:11,840 --> 02:12:18,600
somehow. Oh cool, okay,
in your hearts of war, you know.

1903
02:12:18,800 --> 02:12:22,720
Yeah. Also, what if it's
secretion? Isn't that much? Like

1904
02:12:22,800 --> 02:12:26,960
what if when you have oil it
takes you like twenty years to fill one

1905
02:12:28,039 --> 02:12:33,319
drum, which it comes out of
your palms at a slow rates? What

1906
02:12:33,359 --> 02:12:35,039
if they come out of every finger
with like fire hose pressure. No,

1907
02:12:35,159 --> 02:12:39,359
he says at a slow rate in
the email, Oh my god, like

1908
02:12:39,399 --> 02:12:43,720
a a x men. Yeah.
Yeah, but like like your fingers have

1909
02:12:43,760 --> 02:12:48,039
gona rhea with a specific liquid.
What would the liquid be? The discharge

1910
02:12:48,399 --> 02:12:52,760
is wrong with you. I don't
know. I'm just headsease. It's not

1911
02:12:52,800 --> 02:12:56,359
skirting, it's just dripping. It's
a discharge. It is still like I've

1912
02:12:56,399 --> 02:13:01,800
had it so much about that,
I haven't had it two times. I'm

1913
02:13:01,840 --> 02:13:07,279
just saying, gonam a hearty.
You're back in town. Mothers, lock

1914
02:13:07,359 --> 02:13:11,960
up your daughters. It's gonna ream
a hearty and your sons, as we

1915
02:13:13,119 --> 02:13:22,159
lovingly call him, your parents.
Everyone, Dude, hide your trees.

1916
02:13:22,319 --> 02:13:33,000
He's coming at you and the discharge
is flowing slowly. Ohkay, dude,

1917
02:13:33,119 --> 02:13:37,720
I don't know. I think that
handarrhea is pretty bad. Wouldn't water maybe

1918
02:13:37,760 --> 02:13:41,920
be the easiest thing here, because
it's like it's not it's not offensive,

1919
02:13:43,359 --> 02:13:45,560
it's if you were in a pickle, it'd be good to just have a

1920
02:13:45,600 --> 02:13:48,399
source of water at all times if
you're out on a run or whatever.

1921
02:13:48,479 --> 02:13:50,279
Yeah, like you just suck on
a finger, suck on a finger.

1922
02:13:50,840 --> 02:13:54,239
Yeah, maybe water used the right
thing or like like a fun like like

1923
02:13:54,439 --> 02:13:58,760
vitamin water zero or something. Best
case scenario, you're just on a desert,

1924
02:13:58,079 --> 02:14:01,640
You're just on a desert Island.
You're sucking on your hands for an

1925
02:14:01,640 --> 02:14:07,840
eternity specific example, what about blue
gatorade? What about some watermelon? Hint

1926
02:14:07,880 --> 02:14:15,439
water? What what about pample Moose, Lacroix, damn it? Yeah?

1927
02:14:16,000 --> 02:14:20,439
Oh what about gin and juice?
And it's like a really nice I was

1928
02:14:20,479 --> 02:14:24,479
gonna say, like, maybe it's
in your heart. Guys, you're fucked

1929
02:14:24,560 --> 02:14:26,319
up. Maybe it says maybe it
says too much about me, But I

1930
02:14:26,359 --> 02:14:33,680
was gonna say, like a sixty
eight Chateau Margo, you're just always fucking

1931
02:14:33,760 --> 02:14:41,159
drunk, licking them palmps. Your
shirts are all stayed to help, so

1932
02:14:41,439 --> 02:14:46,159
nasty, like a fucking cow is
drinking out of its own utter. Imagine

1933
02:14:46,199 --> 02:14:52,199
I have my somale a license because
I'm just permanently like discharging Chateau Margo,

1934
02:14:52,359 --> 02:14:54,680
and I'm coming up to people at
the tables at like Michelin Star wrest Are

1935
02:14:54,760 --> 02:15:00,600
like here you go, somebody your
hands, No you yeah, let's go

1936
02:15:00,640 --> 02:15:01,800
faster. If you milk it like
a cow water, I'd like to think,

1937
02:15:01,840 --> 02:15:07,000
so yeah, he go. Hi, it's gonna be three hundred and

1938
02:15:07,000 --> 02:15:11,880
fifty dollars. It's gonna be so
lumpy. Keep go, you can make

1939
02:15:11,920 --> 02:15:18,239
money off that the pieces of skin, and you're like a little drunk from

1940
02:15:18,239 --> 02:15:24,840
the whole the whole life going through
your blood. I'm always Stevo got the

1941
02:15:24,880 --> 02:15:30,600
IV of vodka. I'm always jizzed. As they say, oh sorry,

1942
02:15:30,640 --> 02:15:33,520
I gave you the Gonorea hand,
it's the left one that has them or

1943
02:15:33,600 --> 02:15:37,760
low Oh can you like dual wheel? Can you like by a shop plasmic

1944
02:15:37,840 --> 02:15:43,399
situation? Why the fuck not,
We're already in some kind of insane dystopia

1945
02:15:43,520 --> 02:15:48,760
ju and juice. Now we're talking
rolling in his grave or whatever wherever he

1946
02:15:48,840 --> 02:15:54,079
is, and he's like, why
didn't they It's like Skyrim. I got

1947
02:15:54,119 --> 02:16:01,479
one hand that's gonorehaing oil jelly or
peanut butter and jelly, the great No,

1948
02:16:01,720 --> 02:16:07,680
we're talking I fucking have jam hands. I would never pay. I

1949
02:16:07,720 --> 02:16:11,199
got one hand is the batter for
tortilla chips into a fryer, and then

1950
02:16:11,199 --> 02:16:13,920
I got nacho cheese out of the
other fingers. Inconvenient Just buy him.

1951
02:16:18,359 --> 02:16:24,439
It's not even cost effective. No, it's this inconvenience at best. You

1952
02:16:24,560 --> 02:16:30,520
fucking live with peanut butter and jelly, the cheapest of sandwich ump ship every

1953
02:16:30,560 --> 02:16:35,600
day. Dan has had one today
and yesterday and the day before. Dan

1954
02:16:35,680 --> 02:16:37,760
has the food producing power of the
century, and he goes with Pebe and

1955
02:16:37,840 --> 02:16:41,200
j formation well, and I only
eat super chunk, So I would have

1956
02:16:41,239 --> 02:16:48,959
like chunky ship coming out of my
fingers. Be terrible. I would my

1957
02:16:48,000 --> 02:16:52,600
hands were clogged again. They got
all the nuts in there, snake in

1958
02:16:52,639 --> 02:17:00,159
there. I got one. You
could do uh like on one hand and

1959
02:17:00,479 --> 02:17:05,559
it would be bud light and then
out of the other it would be uh

1960
02:17:05,799 --> 02:17:09,120
like a chet, like a chateaubrion
or a hot brion. It would be

1961
02:17:09,159 --> 02:17:13,000
like a like a low class like
a low brow high brow thing. You

1962
02:17:13,040 --> 02:17:16,040
could just no matter what kind of
party you're at, it would be you'd

1963
02:17:16,040 --> 02:17:20,959
be certain people when Mike's when Mike
suggested nat your cheese for mine, I

1964
02:17:20,000 --> 02:17:22,799
was like, how dare you so? Do you think I am a parody

1965
02:17:22,840 --> 02:17:24,879
of myself? And then Mike's like, oh, w chettau booby doo.

1966
02:17:28,159 --> 02:17:35,479
It'd be great. I I don't
know what else I would like. Barbecue

1967
02:17:35,479 --> 02:17:37,639
sauce would be good. I think
water in a hand sanitizer are one and

1968
02:17:37,680 --> 02:17:45,920
two for me. Why water,
it's not It's not bad, it's water.

1969
02:17:46,079 --> 02:17:50,760
Keep it nice and you'd keep it
nice and clean. It's in a

1970
02:17:50,840 --> 02:17:52,479
very available if you're on a run
or something, or a long bike ride.

1971
02:17:52,520 --> 02:17:56,479
Just like I really think that would
be the one thing in your lifestyle

1972
02:17:56,520 --> 02:17:58,920
is preventing you from having water on
hand when you go for a running water

1973
02:18:00,040 --> 02:18:01,319
while I'm like on a bike er, I gotta stop, I gotta get

1974
02:18:01,319 --> 02:18:03,159
off, I gotta grab the bottle, I gotta twist the thing. I

1975
02:18:03,200 --> 02:18:05,799
gotta do a deal. If I
could just like just suck on a finger,

1976
02:18:07,360 --> 02:18:11,319
but it's permanently coming out of slow
rate. You got slowly. Yeah,

1977
02:18:11,440 --> 02:18:15,959
you have to wear that are just
like bags that are tied on your

1978
02:18:15,959 --> 02:18:18,840
wrist, so you slowly fill up
these bags. Any option is going to

1979
02:18:18,879 --> 02:18:24,079
be inconvenient. I think water would
be the least inconvenient. I think water

1980
02:18:24,280 --> 02:18:30,200
is the least inconvenient, considering we
were also considering chunky peanut butter. Thank

1981
02:18:30,200 --> 02:18:39,079
you for your question. I was
just I don't I what, Yeah,

1982
02:18:39,159 --> 02:18:43,840
what I guess that's what is the
liquid that would in no way be inconvenient?

1983
02:18:43,879 --> 02:18:48,239
There is there is no That's that's
the answer. Dan has it that

1984
02:18:48,239 --> 02:18:54,319
would be inconvenient, invenient, the
least inconvenient. That's what I'm saying,

1985
02:18:54,479 --> 02:19:01,680
is there anything that would be not
inconvenient? Old you freak al right,

1986
02:19:01,799 --> 02:19:05,360
just hop, skip and jump you
right there. I'm just always ready for

1987
02:19:05,399 --> 02:19:16,479
anal like too much. There's never
you can't do too much lube, So

1988
02:19:16,559 --> 02:19:18,920
there's no liquid that could come out
of your fingers that would not be an

1989
02:19:18,920 --> 02:19:22,799
inconvenience. No water would be the
least inconvenient, but it's so very inconvenient,

1990
02:19:22,879 --> 02:19:26,399
like typing on a keyboard, fuck
up every keyboard mouse, like maybe

1991
02:19:26,399 --> 02:19:30,799
covering controls stick or something. Yeah, yeah, again, you'd be like

1992
02:19:30,840 --> 02:19:33,799
gloves, you'd be wearing plastic medical
gloves and then they would just fill up

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your gloves. That's what I thank
you. You need to make all of

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your rooms like a Dexter kill room. Yeah, that's everything out of frame,

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Mike shot plastic guys. Have you
been here? All right? Yeah?

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Thank you? Steve from Melbourne.
All right, Fire skate cast at

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gmail dot com. Do you are
sending questions for nex episode in episode sixty

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four? Right in there? Good
questions tonight. People. People are getting

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us finally. It took two years. It took two and a half years.

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People are finally getting us. They
know what makes us tick. I

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enjoy it. That's firescape cast at
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really quick again, Mary, we've
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but check our socials, check our
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to our Bonfire account. These shirts
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us on this exclusive design. It's
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com is our Patreon. Go there, you'll see it. Go get them,

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Go get them. Yeah, and
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are not a patron, go to
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You can treat it like a chip
trip Oh my jod. You can treat

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it like a tip jar if you
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can get ad free episodes, or
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or just the normal episodes and video
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Mary's pineapple to me. And that
is not a euphemism. Nope. Outside

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of that, Dan, what do
you have going on a giant bomb dot

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com? Still doing the twitch stuff. Yeah, I'm settled in. I'm

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settled into the new place. It's
it's working out very well. So getting

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back into the groove of things.
So just keep an eye out at the

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usual spots. All right, you're
Twitch dot tv slash dan Rykert for those

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who are round Mary, what about
you also on Twitch streaming every Monday and

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enjoying it thoroughly. It's also September, so it's like a good time to

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do twitch. That's it. I
think that's really I'm I'm working on that

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and like work, so nothing else
cool for me. What about you,

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Mike? I just to Polygon read
Polygon dot com got a lot of great

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stuff going up. I edit most
of the stuff. I don't write as

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much, but I do write.
So go check out some stuff a Polygon.

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Mary, I guess this is one
more thing. Uh. Anybody listening

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who is not subscribed to fire Escape's
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fire Escape Cast on YouTube dot com. We've got a bunch of people in

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there recently because that's where we're going
to be streaming our Game of the Year

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stuff in December. However, that's
also where are we not doing that well

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streaming. I've never streamed a YouTube. That's where if you if you can't

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make the stream, that's where we'll
be in December. But also that's where

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Mary and I are playing through resume
for remake with Resident kinevil H. We're

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getting to that when we can.
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you will be notified as soon as
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a patron outside of that episode sixty
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Yeah, thanks, thanks for you, guys. We'll be back, well,

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we'll be back. We'll be back
on twenty five, right before you,

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guys are a couple of weeks before
you, guys are coming to New

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York. Cool. I got a
New York wedding in October. I got

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a San Francisco wedding in October.
Got busy back half of the year here,

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but can't wait. All right,
Thank you everybody for joining. You

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could have been anywhere in the world
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with us. Thank you for joining. We'll see you in a couple of

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