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Ball here on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera, He's Jakinsaus got

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our guy Ryan with us today.
All I have to say is I'm glad

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for the guy who invented AC amen
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very busy, very busy. Card
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yeah, but then what are you
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had a lot of money. Hey, welcome everybody. Welcome to Thursday edition.

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Thursday's edition of Eye on the Ball
of NBA tonight. Yep, finally

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the uh you know, it's been
a while since we've seen some basketball,

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so oh good. I don't even
say who you going to win because I

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don't want to hear it. For
obvious reasons I don't want to do the

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jinx me. Yeah. Well,
okay, then we have our guy Ryan

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with his Dallas Mavericks shirt on.
Oh I didn't even notice, right,

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I guess you just get it.
I actually got it yesterday. Oh it's

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it's like the NBA Finals shirt.
You can still see the wrinkles in it.

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Okay, okay, okay, what
see. I I've always hesitated to

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get I mean, I'm saying it
right now. Right, I got a

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College World Series shirt on from twenty
twenty one, but that it was a

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gift. I hesitate to get that
until they win the championship because you know,

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I don't want to get a finals
shirt and then have them lose the

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finals. Then I don't feel like
wearing the shirt. Yeah, I mean

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I understand that I've always done it, though, like if my team's have

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like won the rents or like the
division or something you always trying to get.

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So so now you'll spend another thirty
five bucks on the championship if they

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win it, at least probably fifty. Yeah, there's a lot of other

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stuff that you could buy. Jim
preconceives because he can't buy it because eventually

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if he bets on him or talks
about him. You're not gonna win it,

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so why buy it? But like
I don't. I've never bought Dodgers

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Nation League Champions jersey shirt, right, and if they don't win the World

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Series, then I don't get a
shirt. So that But that's so you

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said a lot of money. That's
me and the mojo. That's me and

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the mojo. He's got a figure. But you said that's a good thing.

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That's a good thing on not on
YouTube? Dot what everything flies on

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YouTube? What the hell not?
If you could do it, damn well

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I could do it. But but
no, that's cool. It's cool.

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I mean you like ordered that immediately
and yeah, like like as soon as

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the game was over. I went
on to fanatics and in guyline like I'm

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gonna get it right now. Yeah, I mean I I you know,

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I did that when the when the
Dodgers won the World Series in twenty I

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mean the game had just ended and
I was ordering my stuff. I mean,

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you get you gotta order that pretty
quick if you're going to yeah,

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because it goes Yeah, its win
tonight, I hope. So that doesn't

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answer the question. I took the
Celtics they're gonna win tonight. He just

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took the Celtics. You're guaranteed to
win. It's gonna be it's gonna be

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a very close. It should be
a fun series. Yeah, because two

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Boston is a very good team and
Dallas has played very well with two fantastic

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players. And here's the here's the
thing. My colleague here or my partner

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here, Uh you who would you
think is gonna win the series? Before

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I go here? I think Celtics. Okay, okay uh. And not

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because of the obvious, but a
year or two ago when the trade was

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made with Kyrie, yeah, you
don't want him. I didn't like it.

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I still don't like I don't like
kyriev and I think he's bad for

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most every team he's been on.
I'm a little surprised that you know that

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they're here because because that he he
helped get him here, they found the

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way to go exist. Yeah.
No, I I'm not a fan of

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Kyrie Irving. I think he's he's
one of those guys that can that can

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direct the locker room record team.
But you know, somebody said, maybe

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it was just the fit that that
you know, that he needed, and

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and that and that the Mavericks needed
because you know, a lot of the

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places he's been it's just not worked
out, you know that. So you

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know, good, good for him, good for the Mavericks. But I'm

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taking the Celtics. You know.
I was worried about that too when they

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got him, because I was like, he really gonna mess with Luca exactly,

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you know, the players they had
at the time, And I was

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worried about that. You know,
I'm glad that he's he's worked out,

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and what the what's the dynamic with
Horsingus and and uh and uh the guard

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I can't want to say his name. No, no, with the Dallas

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they shipped him, was there some
chemistry issues? Okay? And I don't

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remember. It was kind of it
was kind of strange how I saw.

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I didn't listen to it, but
I was leaving and they brought the dynamic

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with Porzingis. Yeah. What I
remember from Porzingis was he just he got

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injured a lot. Yeah, and
he's like he was really good for Dallas

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when he was on the court,
but he just he got injured. So

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there was no chemistry issues with I
don't think him the rest Okay, Well,

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I don't care if he plays or
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heck of a player. But they've
done well without him. Do they need

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him? I guess we'll see.
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thing. I think it's gouna be
a really good series for a brief moment,

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For a brief moment, I entertained
the idea of that since I think

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the Celtics are gonna win taking Celtics
money line. But on the money line

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today the Celtics minus two thirty or
something like that, And so if they

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don't win it in say five games, you're gonna lose money, right if

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if, if, if the MAVs
even win two games, and you're betting

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the same amount, you're gonna you're
not gonna win daily Yeah, on every

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game? Oh yeah, okay,
yeah no, yeah, you don't want

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to do that. Yeah, yeah, no, I thought you said for

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the series. I actually took him
at that number two thirty. And it's

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not it's gonna get you what twenty
It's gonna get you a little more than

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half. If you bet twenty five
bucks, you'll win fifteen. Yeah,

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it's it's it's a simple. I
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We'll see if that's I teased.
I teased the points spread down to two

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and a half's six and a half, right from six from six and a

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half two, which is what's that? I got minus one ninety on that

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and then I and then I parlayed
it with the under that's what I've got

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just for ten bucks. You know, Dallas, I used to live there

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before I got here. Uh senor
uh Dallas. There's a great meme on

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the internet because the uh the Rangers, Yeah, the one the cockey team

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start that was done well. Uh, there's another team that's done well.

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I can't remember which one it is. Uh, there's a team well,

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no, so two teams. And
now now you've got the Mavericks in the

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finals and they're saying, okay,
Cowboys, what the hell happened? And

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you give it. They're they're your
Dallas Cowby, they're your Dodgers. I

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mean, I talk about this all
the time. I was with some Cowboy

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fans over the weekend. I set
them straight and they're like, why are

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you so negative? I said,
I'm just telling you the truth. They've

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sucked since nineteen ninety five. It's
been a while. Yeah, you know.

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Yeah, what am I supposed to
do? Change the facts? And

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I used to be a Cowboy fan. Yeah, but that's the team that's

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you know, the Cowboys blotty do. Waiting on them to get it going.

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I don't know if they're going to
do it. Those they have so

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many issues. There's that's a dysfunctional
family. Very very good regular season team,

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but when it comes to the playoffs, they're just Yeah, I think

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we got so many training call in. I just got a call. Yeah.

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No, I think I do think
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series. I really do. I
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know what I'm thinking. Oklahoma City
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it's the number one scene. I'm
like, they don't look like a championship

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team. They do not. They
just don't got a call record. Let's

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take this, Hi, you're on
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Yes, I'll take uh. Dallas
and I'm getting five points. That's that's

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good. That's a good number.
I mean, I think it's gonna be

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a close game. Dallas and five. Vegas has them six and six and

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a half is what I saw.
Yeah, I know, but I got

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my buddy, he's he's pretty cheap, and you ended up being the nice

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guy. He was trying to give
me three and I felt, you know,

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a couple of choice words, and
I said, all right, we'll

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put the difference in me live.
All right, that's the way. I'm

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Kyrie Irby. By the way.
One thing I've noticed he had an interview

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a while ago. But he's married
and he's got a child, and I've

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watched. I think he really has
matured in the last couple of years.

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A children have a tendency to mellow
you out a little bit. Yeah,

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if that kid is or the child
is under two three years old, that

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makes sense. Yeah, what makes
sense, Absolutely makes sense. Yeah,

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the big yeah you just like to
me, might be three. But you

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kid too, if you uh,
if you had kids, Rick, but

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I'm sure you do one on a
Tuesday night, you should take care of

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him. Well, you know what, I'm a grandpa and now I'm a

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great grandpa and guess what, wh
she gets to hold them at my discretion.

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You've matured because of it, Thank
you, Rick, Thank you.

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Yeah. Yeah, you guys have
a good day. It's like that,

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what do we bet? We bet
a football game? Right, where you

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gave me not even close to what
the points spread was, and I took

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it and you'd still lost when it
was one of the game, it's one

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of your FA football games this last
season. It was the USC game or

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something. Oh yeah, yeah,
the spread was like twenty one or something

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and he only gave me fourteen something
like that. Yeah, you're right,

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and I'm thinking, how is this
happening? And it turned out to be

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that's the team that we saw.
Yeah, yeah, no, you're right.

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I think I remember. I remember
getting or giving you a saying,

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god it, I take him,
take him to the clean. I was

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like, your, holy crap,
you're gonna pull this off. Yeah,

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so you know, Heyrick was a
nice guy, and yeah, well let's

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see and take the four. Let's
you know, I didn't feel confident in

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the six and a half. It'll
be right there. And look, and

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you know what, I honestly don't
care. I don't have any dog in

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this fight. I'm just betting it
because it's the finals and it's fun and

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the game is gonna come on and
I'm gonna watch it. Yeah, it's

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uh, it's gonna be a long
road here. Like two weeks seeing what's

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gonna happen? Welcome to the NBA
Playoffs. Yeah, pray for my sanity.

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Well, you know, then tonight
they have the World Series obviously the

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college World Series. See if Oklahoma
wins the fourth straight, which would be

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again, something else I'm not watching. I saw last night last night was

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a song when there whatever it was, Texas made a short rally. But

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you know what, the guy that's
done very well, maybe you've get him

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on the show at some point here
as things settled down for the summer is

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del Conte. Uh, he's a
he's a friend. I give him crap

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about stuff, but he's turned that
Texas. You're friends with him? Yeah,

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unfortunately, anything anything, you know
it well, it's it's in the

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way I become friends with people.
You don't give him crap. It's like

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we grew he grew up in northern
New Mexico. Okay people, Oh yeah,

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something common with Yeah, yeah,
New Mexico. I give him crap

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because he's he's he was here for
a while and and it's two Hispanic dudes

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giving each other grief and then going
out for a beer. That type of

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you know, call each other names, you know, bad names, blah,

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blah blah, we want to go
eat Okay, yeah, okay,

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got it. Okay, So let's
have him because he's done a tremendous,

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tremendous job. Well, he's Texas. I mean, he's arguably the second

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or third, maybe fourth most powerful
person college athletics. And I'll go there

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with him, because how is this
kid from northern New Mexico small. He's

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up there with Greg Sanky, He's
up there with guys like Greg Burn,

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you know those kinds of guys.
He probably ahead of Greg Burn. Now,

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I mean he's in Alabama, but
Texas, and he's got a lot

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of sports. He had the best
softball team in the country. They're number

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one in the country, and then
swimming when they just stole the Ears and

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they and they're buying coaches, they're
taking their taking. I mean, he's

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in a position where he can just
say this is this is who I want.

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Yeah, let's take this call.
Hi, you're on the air behind

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the Ball. Yeah, I wanted
piggyback on. Uh uh Steve talking about

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del Conte and Texas. You know, I listened to I listened to your

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show and other shows, and I
haven't heard much about the women's golf coach

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leaving. Was it money, greener
pastors, change the scenery or are their

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issues you can't talk about? Is
it the you know, the fluctuations in

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the athletic department. Do you have
any take on that. My guess would

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be money. Yeah, the assumption
when it's when it's a Texas or in

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an Alabama or something like that,
taking your coach, you just make the

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general assumption that it's it's money and
opportunity resources, right without questions. And

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I say that because when she's a
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or two here right too. She's
been here and I was at the golf

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event that they had a month ago, just built them a great facility.

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She was almost in tears talking about
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and then someone swooped in. Yeah, yeah, you make the assumption it's

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money. Well yeah, you know, I kind of assume that, but

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it just seems odd with all the
new facilities and everything that boom she's gone.

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But it may be a big bark. Yeah, well that's it.

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Well, that's it. I mean
that that's because they've got she now has

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this facility that's as good as probably
any facility in the country on one of

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the great golf courses you know,
in the area. What else could it

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be then that that she would leave
for except for a hef do you raise

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in salary? So that Again,
we don't know unless it's some underlying issue.

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Right, nobody knows about her talk
No, no, but you you

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would hear things, yeah, no, And this is this is not a

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minor sport. What do you call
it? Just a minor sport. Yeah,

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it's a non revenue sport. But
we haven't heard anything. And you

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usually hear something, especially after they
leave here. Well, you didn't know

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this was going out. We've heard
zero. Yeah, it just seems you

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know, and I understand after seventeen
years and money in Austin could be appealing,

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but uh it, you know,
she's done so well and golf has

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done so well here. Yeah,
yeah, no, it's my number one

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thing with that, I would think
I would think money. Hey, thanks

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for the call. We do appreciate
it. Keep listening. We love you

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guys listening to us. Thank you. Yeah bye, all right, we

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got to hit the road, take
a break. We're to come back.

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We don't even talk about our guests, but we've got pat Darcy's going to

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come in. He's the head of
the Peanut County Sports Hall of Fames.

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We talk to him a little bit
about this year's class, and then in

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the second hour, I've got Sean
McNeil. He's a manager of the Tucson

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Sorrows. That a professional baseball team
that a lot of people don't know about

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that plays out. I was gonna
say two so Electric Park, but it's

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Keno Sport, Keno Stadum. Anyways, but we'll be back with those guys,

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Steve Rivera and Jacob SMIs they have
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station, Fox Sports fourteen fifty.
Hey, we'll connect to Eye on the

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ball here all Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve, he's Jay, and

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pet is out there somewhere. We
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was like a drop ball in the
outfield. So we'll see, like this

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is funny, he's going, how
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am I doing here? We had
lost him like a fly ball. We'll

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put that as an error. Yeah, so we'll see if he calls back.

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We had him there for a second. No, I want to talk

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to him obviously we want to talk
about the Hall of Fame. He's an

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instrumental and and and all the guys
that go in on women good nice class

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coming in more educational than anything of
the people. Yep, yep, no,

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you know. And he's he's really
done a great job with this,

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with this Hall of Fame, it's
become a big deal, you know for

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a lot of people. You know, we had uh, Tom dan he

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on yesterday who got induct Who's getting
inducted with this class. Tomorrow We're gonna

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have Jerry Gastellum, a longtime referee
coach uh in the Tucson community. I

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made it to the you know all. You know he was a college rep

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football referee. So you know,
guys like that who again are getting recognized

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for just being involved in this community. Uh, you know, which is

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a great thing. Let's try to
reach out one there and we forgive anybody

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if they hit this because I texted
him he hasn't no, you're here?

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Path is this you? Yes?
Yeah? Me? Don't drop that phone,

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don't jump well, I won't.
Hey. Welcome to the show,

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Pat Darcy, uh Pema Hall of
Fame, the Sports Hall of Fame.

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Glad to have you on the show. We've had you on the show before.

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You must be excited about your new
class. Yeah, we do.

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We're really you know, every year
it seem to getting better and better.

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I think, I think, well, this who's who's going to come next

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year? And Greg Hanson just started
firing our names at her, so well,

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you know, this is another good
class for us. And every year

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we've been at the Double Tree at
Ree Park now for like ten years,

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and our attendants goes up from there, so it's it's a lot of fun.

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It's a lot of fun, you
know, especially we had we've had

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two teams now, so a lot
of these teams come back and they've been

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gone for like fifteen twenty years and
their coach is there and they get to

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get to sit together. It's great. It's nice to see that, pat,

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you know, because we've been you
know, I was born here,

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so you know, I kind of
know who all these people are who are

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going into the Hall of Fame.
We're just talking yesterday about how it's not

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just guys who you know, guys
who made it to the major leagues or

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professional football or whatever. It's people
like you know, the day Lopez is

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that. You know, we just
talk mentioned Jerry Gastellum, uh, Tom

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Danny, people like that who are
just a part of sports in this community.

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How important is that to you?
Guys? And and and you know,

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how do you how do you?
You know? What are you looking

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for when you're looking for guys like
that? I shouldn't say guys. People

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guys like Jibblemander Whowre high school All
city player, thirteen years in the minor

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leagues, right, you know,
you know to ride those buses like that.

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Oh man, yeah, and he
did it and now you think he

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works as a scout tour right now. But that's these people that just keep

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fighting, fighting, and you know, we get we get like we know

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we're sixty No, you know,
people you know sitting as if may applications

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to be in the Hall of Fame. And that's we have to break that

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down to twelve with two teams,
right, And I want to mention one

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thing about the Hall of Fame.
It was founded in nineteen eighty nine by

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a guy named alside Al was a
wrestler from New Jersey. Got a scholarship

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with the University girls and a wrestling
scholarship. And he's the one that started

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the Hall of Fame there. Now, this is something that's really weird.

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I was at a Red Big Grads
reunion about like ten years, eight years

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ago something like that, and I
was sitting with Rolly Eastwood. Raleigh was

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from New Jersey. I didn't realize
that he and Outside wrestled in the state

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championship against each other. Wow,
it's amazing, And so I got Al

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was real he was really ill at
the time, and I got a hold

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of him that I had gave Rolling
the phone and they started going back.

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I should have beat you. You
should have beat what. He can't see

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the pet he handed the phone.
Al said, Pat, that's the most

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punt I've had in a long time. So it was nice that way.

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He passed away. You know,
they a week late or something like that.

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So you've you've included twelve more people
total, how many through the years

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since nineteen eighty nine. I think
right now are around four thirty six something

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like that, because we've added teams. We just you know, recently,

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we just started adding teams about six
years ago, five six years to my

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two teams. And that helps out
too. It's fun to watch these,

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you know, the kids, not
kids that the older adults come and get

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to see their former teammates and their
coaches. It's a lot of fun that

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way. Yeah, so you know, but you know, thinking about some

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of these people though, like like
Dale, like Jerry, you know,

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who just are involved, and I
mean that's such a big deal to this

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community to have got people like that
who've just been around you know, that

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they get to get to be in
this Like I'm not a Hall of Fame

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athletes, He's not a Hall of
Fame athlete, you know, but you

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know, people like that who just
get get a chance to you know,

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I don't want to say rebelbows,
but just get recognized for the amount of

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effort they put into this kind of
stuff. That's what it's all about.

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It's all about these people, you
know, people that have just battled and

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battled and you know, made it
through the minor leagues or you know,

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you know colleagues playing there or something
like that, but just really worked at

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it, and they you know,
they make it up through the Hall of

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Fame. So you out of the
twelve if you want to just mention the

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names, and then you have a
banquet in November. I think it is

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our banquet is in our press conference
in October sixteenth. This is at the

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Double Tree Repark and our is at
October sixteen, eleven o'clock. Our banquet

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is on November seventeenth at twelve thirty
at the Double Tree, and anybody can

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go to the dinner. Correct,
Yes, we're going to have that.

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We don't have the tickets out yet, too early for that, but that'll

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be coming on soon. We'll have
that out there and people can call and

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get the tickets. So you mentioned
that the number of applications and those kinds

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of things that you get, nominations
and whatnot. How tough is it year

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00:26:48.720 --> 00:26:51.839
to year, you know, to
narrow it down to you know, this

407
00:26:52.039 --> 00:26:55.599
many people and you know, do
the same people keep coming back and saying,

408
00:26:55.599 --> 00:26:56.799
you know, this should be my
year, this should be my year.

409
00:26:57.400 --> 00:27:02.160
How hard is that? It's tough
and we know we just I mean

410
00:27:02.799 --> 00:27:06.000
a while back it was like sixteen
in the Hall of Fame, eighteen and

411
00:27:06.079 --> 00:27:08.759
that we've we now down to twelve
with two teams, and that's tough.

412
00:27:08.920 --> 00:27:12.519
That we get so many people calling, you know, senate applications dinner and

413
00:27:12.799 --> 00:27:15.400
something friend of theirs writing about it, why this person should be in?

414
00:27:15.799 --> 00:27:18.240
Yeah, they really want to be
and that's what that's Those are the people

415
00:27:18.319 --> 00:27:22.680
that battle it and that's yeah,
and they should be rewarded too. I'm

416
00:27:22.720 --> 00:27:26.519
assuming I'm assuming correctly. I think
you're in it too, aren't you?

417
00:27:26.920 --> 00:27:32.680
What year I am? I mean
I was in geez that it was like

418
00:27:33.039 --> 00:27:34.960
had to be maybe seventy five or
something like that. I don't know,

419
00:27:36.000 --> 00:27:37.319
a long time ago. Wait wait, wait wait, so I thought you

420
00:27:37.400 --> 00:27:42.359
said you started in eighty nine.
That's no, no, that's that's after

421
00:27:42.480 --> 00:27:45.680
me. But anyway, just like
say, does we did our first I

422
00:27:45.799 --> 00:27:49.319
did the first even call it name. It was downtown at the rotting In

423
00:27:49.799 --> 00:27:53.720
and they're probably like there must have
been like twenty two people there or something

424
00:27:53.759 --> 00:27:59.880
like that. So it's going on. It's going on from there. Yeah,

425
00:28:00.240 --> 00:28:03.119
but it's a lot of fun.
Yeah. So, uh, you

426
00:28:03.200 --> 00:28:07.079
know, year to year you're you're
getting these folks. What's the process?

427
00:28:07.119 --> 00:28:11.160
When do you start the process and
how long does it take and who does

428
00:28:11.200 --> 00:28:14.119
it? Right? I'm assuming there's
some sort of a committee, But what's

429
00:28:14.119 --> 00:28:17.519
the conversation like when you're going through
some of these different people. Well,

430
00:28:17.599 --> 00:28:22.559
we have you know, people sending
information in and then we'll go we'll discuss

431
00:28:22.599 --> 00:28:25.519
it. So, like you said
last week, like most sixty people you

432
00:28:25.599 --> 00:28:27.880
know, sending something in and so
we have to go through that list now.

433
00:28:27.960 --> 00:28:32.480
Doesn't mean they don't get elected go
to the next year. That happens

434
00:28:32.519 --> 00:28:34.039
a lot too, But it's just
one of these things. There's so many

435
00:28:34.200 --> 00:28:38.079
people coming out now that are going
to be in the Hall of Fame.

436
00:28:40.240 --> 00:28:44.400
Yeah, yeah, no question.
So is there is there a special place

437
00:28:44.480 --> 00:28:47.160
though? I mean, is it
kind of let me ask it this way.

438
00:28:47.440 --> 00:28:51.200
You know, you get an Edvsberg, right who? Uh, you

439
00:28:51.240 --> 00:28:56.039
know, little League College, you
know, maybe World Series. Those those

440
00:28:56.079 --> 00:29:02.680
guys are easy. Which ones are
the hard ones to decide on? Uh?

441
00:29:02.960 --> 00:29:07.039
Like a like a Kim Olander,
maybe a Bob Lacy who wanted to

442
00:29:07.079 --> 00:29:11.480
get you know, I know him
a little bit of Calabroni and they played

443
00:29:11.519 --> 00:29:15.000
in professional baseball for quite a while
and he was just when he wasn't getting

444
00:29:15.000 --> 00:29:22.359
any he sent me a letter with
just a question mark on it. That's

445
00:29:22.440 --> 00:29:27.359
good market we get him in there. Questions, Well, that's kind of

446
00:29:27.359 --> 00:29:30.000
cool that people really really really want
to get in, right, I mean,

447
00:29:30.160 --> 00:29:33.400
it's a it's a huge honor for
some of it for these people.

448
00:29:33.279 --> 00:29:37.319
Oh, Yeah, definitely. It's
it's they want to get in and people

449
00:29:37.359 --> 00:29:40.160
you don't realize that tell how much
it means to him till they get up

450
00:29:40.200 --> 00:29:42.039
there. I'm I'm the Master's sim
I'm right next to him when they're giving

451
00:29:42.079 --> 00:29:45.319
their talks. You know, they
get cherry eye and stuff like that.

452
00:29:45.480 --> 00:29:49.119
It's it's it's a it's a special
moment. Are you guys modeled after any

453
00:29:49.200 --> 00:29:53.400
others like this? You know this
is Pima County? Are there other cities,

454
00:29:53.480 --> 00:29:56.599
county states? Who? What do
they do and where where do you

455
00:29:56.640 --> 00:30:00.200
get some of your ideas about how
to do this? Well, you know,

456
00:30:00.319 --> 00:30:03.359
we kind of learned as we go
along here, you know, the

457
00:30:03.480 --> 00:30:06.000
good things we did and some things
we didn't do right, stuff like that.

458
00:30:06.680 --> 00:30:08.319
But uh, it's you know,
it's working. And you know,

459
00:30:08.400 --> 00:30:11.960
I said outside started the whole thing. But it's good just getting it's good,

460
00:30:12.039 --> 00:30:15.480
you know, seeing people get them. We had Soorrel High School volleyball

461
00:30:17.400 --> 00:30:22.039
about two years ago and almost Hope
the whole team was there and they were

462
00:30:22.359 --> 00:30:25.759
and their coaches there and I guess
they started out and the coach they was

463
00:30:25.839 --> 00:30:29.319
okay at Sorrel and the coach said
over the summer I was, we're gonna

464
00:30:29.359 --> 00:30:33.039
travel around, we're gonna play tough
teams. And they got into it and

465
00:30:33.079 --> 00:30:36.119
they did. They played and they
get it, and you know we're one

466
00:30:36.160 --> 00:30:38.839
of the tough teams in Arizona.
Yeah no, that you guys do a

467
00:30:38.880 --> 00:30:42.319
great job, a great job.
Yeah. Here's what more, here's what

468
00:30:42.799 --> 00:30:48.400
it stands out to me. Calleberti
football teams they had. They were a

469
00:30:48.559 --> 00:30:52.599
bad team, and after their season
was over, the players all got together

470
00:30:52.759 --> 00:30:56.880
and they signed a contract that they're
gonna come, they're gonna work out,

471
00:30:56.920 --> 00:30:59.880
they're gotta come to practice, and
they ended up they end up in it,

472
00:31:00.079 --> 00:31:04.160
winning their position in the state championship. Yeah. Well, well that's

473
00:31:04.240 --> 00:31:07.400
you know, that's what you need
to have, you know, to have

474
00:31:07.559 --> 00:31:10.400
teams like that. All right,
so let let's uh, let let's talk

475
00:31:10.400 --> 00:31:12.519
a little bit of baseball, pat, you know how much of you know,

476
00:31:12.599 --> 00:31:15.119
I think we've had this conversation,
but you know, baseball is changing

477
00:31:15.200 --> 00:31:19.400
every day. You're getting guys are
making half a billion dollars and stuff like

478
00:31:19.480 --> 00:31:22.559
that. You know what's that like
for you? Somebody who played, you

479
00:31:22.599 --> 00:31:26.759
know, into the mid seventies,
so you're like this one, okay,

480
00:31:26.440 --> 00:31:30.319
I was good the Lake Joe Morgan
and we talk a lot. His first

481
00:31:30.400 --> 00:31:36.880
year in the Major League he made
seven thousand, five hundred dollars. Jeez

482
00:31:37.119 --> 00:31:45.640
geez. I mean he probably made
more per game doing college baseball on ESPN

483
00:31:45.839 --> 00:31:48.839
than then than that. That's that's
crazy. But you know you said gout

484
00:31:48.880 --> 00:31:52.960
like shoy Otani right there. I
mean, is nearly a billion dollar,

485
00:31:53.240 --> 00:31:56.359
billion dollar ball player over the years. That's got to be mind boggling to

486
00:31:56.440 --> 00:32:00.759
you. It's just it's just the
money they you know, the money you're

487
00:32:00.799 --> 00:32:02.599
making. And when you go to
like some of these you know, like

488
00:32:02.680 --> 00:32:07.799
the Reds, you have a yearly
thing get together some of the players and

489
00:32:07.920 --> 00:32:09.039
some of these guys think it's,
you know, no big deal, and

490
00:32:09.160 --> 00:32:14.119
it's one of them. You know, it's like we're struggling. They got

491
00:32:14.119 --> 00:32:15.559
all this money. They've made all
this money, right, So let me

492
00:32:15.599 --> 00:32:19.559
ask you, what are your thoughts
on the pitch count having been a pitcher,

493
00:32:20.759 --> 00:32:24.400
but count not the count, the
clock, the clock. It's not

494
00:32:24.519 --> 00:32:28.839
that it's not that I would I
don't like. Here's you know, how

495
00:32:29.279 --> 00:32:32.799
the umpires, you know, the
catchers, the umpires move around too much

496
00:32:32.880 --> 00:32:37.119
or they I wouldn't like. You
see an outfielder with on his wrist,

497
00:32:37.160 --> 00:32:38.640
he yes, where's this here?
Very supposed to play this? Hit her?

498
00:32:39.079 --> 00:32:42.519
You know they all so they have, They told her everything to do,

499
00:32:43.200 --> 00:32:46.640
and that did We just played?
Yeah right, yeah, well okay,

500
00:32:46.920 --> 00:32:51.119
you were a picture of what would
you think of an electronic strike zone

501
00:32:51.160 --> 00:32:54.400
right where it's not the umpire calling
the pitches, but there's a little electronic

502
00:32:54.559 --> 00:32:59.640
box that somehow tells you whether it's
a ball or strike, call the pitches

503
00:32:59.680 --> 00:33:01.880
all that. Yeah, yeah,
yeah, let'll tell you a funny story.

504
00:33:01.920 --> 00:33:06.400
There's another story. I was pitching
that game and uh, it's Cincinnati

505
00:33:06.920 --> 00:33:09.519
and the umpire you see me up
baseball? I turned. I didn't like

506
00:33:09.519 --> 00:33:14.559
to do it back. So next
inning he throws me the same ball again.

507
00:33:15.759 --> 00:33:19.599
I said, hey, you used
to do this on four I was

508
00:33:19.640 --> 00:33:24.920
just testing you. But but would
you like that or not? I you

509
00:33:25.000 --> 00:33:28.000
know, I just think played,
you know, play the game and have

510
00:33:28.119 --> 00:33:30.920
everybody you know have all these before
their stats, all these things they gotta

511
00:33:30.960 --> 00:33:35.119
do. You gotta play this position
that and the balls. You know,

512
00:33:35.160 --> 00:33:37.599
the balls, man, we used
to you know, balls were you could

513
00:33:37.680 --> 00:33:40.000
tell them that all the time.
Yea, you know, there there was

514
00:33:40.039 --> 00:33:43.920
no big and the balls because the
balls could stay in place for two or

515
00:33:43.960 --> 00:33:45.640
three innings. Four inns now hit
the dirt and they throw it out.

516
00:33:45.759 --> 00:33:50.599
Yeah, you're notorious for being part
of one of the best teams on UH.

517
00:33:50.759 --> 00:33:53.359
Ever with Cincinnati, I'm curious.
Were you on a team that was

518
00:33:53.440 --> 00:33:58.160
already uh here we are mid June, first first week of June and down

519
00:33:58.200 --> 00:34:00.400
a number of games, like,
you know, fourteen fifteen games. How

520
00:34:00.519 --> 00:34:04.680
was it to survive a season like
that when you when it's like just going

521
00:34:04.759 --> 00:34:08.639
to work and it sucks. Yeah, the minor leagues is bad. I

522
00:34:08.760 --> 00:34:14.000
played at Houston, had some bad
minor league teams, and we've finished last

523
00:34:14.039 --> 00:34:15.960
place every year and used to losing. That's not good. You know,

524
00:34:16.360 --> 00:34:20.800
in Cincinnati they had a really good
minor league. They won most of the

525
00:34:20.840 --> 00:34:23.599
times, and they're guys, all
you expected to win. Well, yeah,

526
00:34:23.679 --> 00:34:27.559
but it was kind of tough,
right Hey, Pat, thanks for

527
00:34:27.639 --> 00:34:30.440
joining us. Good luck, good
luck, you appreciate it and have fun

528
00:34:30.480 --> 00:34:34.079
with that. Well, we'll talk
again when the when the event gets closed.

529
00:34:34.159 --> 00:34:37.320
I know that the bank was on
the river seventeen okay, okay,

530
00:34:37.360 --> 00:34:39.159
we'll tell them how to get tickets, all righty man? Thank you,

531
00:34:39.239 --> 00:34:44.199
Pat? By Pat Darcy. Pat
Darcy is one of the biggest talking I

532
00:34:44.239 --> 00:34:47.840
saies, a part of one of
the biggest plays in World Series history.

533
00:34:47.920 --> 00:34:52.519
Right right, gave up the gave
up the homer to Carlton Fisk in the

534
00:34:52.559 --> 00:34:54.840
seventy five Game six, Game six, seventy five World Series. Yeah,

535
00:34:54.920 --> 00:34:59.960
I was. I was twelve years
old Cincinnati Red fan, and I couldn't

536
00:35:00.000 --> 00:35:04.480
sleep that night. Yeah, then
they won the day. I hated that

537
00:35:04.880 --> 00:35:07.519
year. I was. I was
really upset about all of that because I

538
00:35:07.920 --> 00:35:10.280
didn't like, say, no,
what did you say seventy six? Yea

539
00:35:10.639 --> 00:35:15.559
seventy five because they won again seventy
six. I know that too. Sorry,

540
00:35:15.920 --> 00:35:22.480
you're just bragging down that last time. All right, thanks to Pat

541
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news to a big news out of the

576
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Los Angeles area. Lakers. Well, yeah, we get up this morning

577
00:38:00.159 --> 00:38:08.519
and uh uh Adrian Rojanowski sends out
the old WOJ bomb saying that, uh,

578
00:38:09.639 --> 00:38:14.800
Danny Danny Hurley is a candidate,
not just a candidate, but they're

579
00:38:15.360 --> 00:38:16.920
Lakers are looking to hire him.
I wonder what I went with the Reddick

580
00:38:16.960 --> 00:38:20.320
thing, because I thought that was
pretty much a done deal too. Well,

581
00:38:20.760 --> 00:38:24.239
I said, that's that's the big
question, is that you know,

582
00:38:24.760 --> 00:38:29.559
it seemed like things were getting close
to being done, uh with with Raddick,

583
00:38:29.639 --> 00:38:31.360
and but it didn't get done,
right He's and they and that they're

584
00:38:31.400 --> 00:38:35.360
saying that some of that has to
do with the fact that that Radick is

585
00:38:35.400 --> 00:38:38.199
still working the finals, you know, for TV and stuff. But you

586
00:38:38.280 --> 00:38:42.159
know, it didn't get done and
has gotten done, And is this why

587
00:38:42.239 --> 00:38:47.000
it hasn't gotten done? So I
don't know, well, but I surprised,

588
00:38:47.079 --> 00:38:50.719
not surprised. I guess yeah.
What it does is it opens up

589
00:38:50.719 --> 00:38:54.880
the rest of the college basketball scene
to having another or a different championship right

590
00:38:55.039 --> 00:38:58.159
this year because they're going to be
good, you know, we have to

591
00:38:58.239 --> 00:39:00.519
be lucky, good and all that
stuff. But they were building a juggie

592
00:39:00.519 --> 00:39:02.360
out over there. Well again,
if you if you look at it,

593
00:39:02.440 --> 00:39:06.360
if you look at it this way, you think about the fact that if

594
00:39:06.480 --> 00:39:12.800
Danny Hurley goes to the Lakers.
Now the most recent college football national championship

595
00:39:12.840 --> 00:39:17.440
coach and the college basketball named national
championship coach both have high tailed it for

596
00:39:17.559 --> 00:39:21.719
the pros. And you know,
well, what does that say. Does

597
00:39:21.760 --> 00:39:24.800
it say, Okay, the money
was was you couldn't you know, he

598
00:39:24.840 --> 00:39:30.400
couldn't turn down the money? Yes? Does it or does it say coaching

599
00:39:30.440 --> 00:39:34.760
in college sucks? Yes? And
well, let me if you remember,

600
00:39:34.800 --> 00:39:37.800
because I think you worked, you
worked the final four in the press room,

601
00:39:37.920 --> 00:39:40.960
right, what was heard he saying
that night? He says, I

602
00:39:42.159 --> 00:39:45.920
already have to start thinking about the
ni l stuff within within this house,

603
00:39:45.079 --> 00:39:49.039
right and then going after playing right, well, and that's become a huge

604
00:39:49.079 --> 00:39:52.400
burden. Yeah. And you know
at last year's tournament, I was at

605
00:39:52.440 --> 00:39:54.559
the regional in Vegas and he actually
went on a little bit of a rant

606
00:39:55.440 --> 00:39:58.679
at the you know when you know, when they got to the final four,

607
00:39:59.559 --> 00:40:01.920
you know, in the postgame press
conference after winning the regional, you

608
00:40:01.960 --> 00:40:04.880
know, getting ready to go to
the Final four, and he went on

609
00:40:04.880 --> 00:40:07.360
a little bit of a rant then
about how much it sucks. And he

610
00:40:07.400 --> 00:40:09.039
said, here, I am,
I've just got my team to the final

611
00:40:09.119 --> 00:40:13.199
four, and I have to recruit
my team right right, because he said

612
00:40:13.199 --> 00:40:15.199
that again, yeah this year.
You know, they said that today as

613
00:40:15.239 --> 00:40:19.800
they're doing some stuff with with this
story, and I'm thinking, Okay,

614
00:40:19.920 --> 00:40:22.199
I don't know how many how much
money he makes, but I know Timmy

615
00:40:22.320 --> 00:40:24.840
Lloyd makes about five million. Yeah, and every coach like him makes about

616
00:40:24.880 --> 00:40:29.639
five million. And I think that's
what he's making about. So give me

617
00:40:29.760 --> 00:40:34.079
those real world problems, right,
is it tough? No question? The

618
00:40:34.159 --> 00:40:37.039
problem is that now he's coaching kids
who are making a lot of money,

619
00:40:37.760 --> 00:40:40.400
will they listen to your coaching?
And how much money do you need it

620
00:40:40.480 --> 00:40:43.519
to be given? Bags? Yeah, well that's it. You know.

621
00:40:43.639 --> 00:40:46.599
I was watching Dan Patrick this morning
as this news was breaking, right and

622
00:40:46.719 --> 00:40:52.039
as a coincidence, at Gino Orima
on his show, Connecticut women's basketball coach

623
00:40:52.480 --> 00:40:55.880
and Orima had a really interesting take. He said, he said, look,

624
00:40:57.639 --> 00:41:01.480
we're not college coaches anymore. We're
pro coaches now, we're coaching professionals.

625
00:41:01.719 --> 00:41:05.599
He said, make no mistake about
it. We're not coaching you know,

626
00:41:05.639 --> 00:41:07.880
we're not, He says, So
why and he's not He said,

627
00:41:08.000 --> 00:41:12.199
Look, I'm not encouraging. I'm
not trying to get him to leave.

628
00:41:13.119 --> 00:41:15.840
But from where I sit, why
would you want to If you're going to

629
00:41:15.880 --> 00:41:20.320
be coaching pros, why wouldn't you
want to coach pros who know how to

630
00:41:20.400 --> 00:41:22.960
be pros as opposed to coaching pros
who have no idea what it's like to

631
00:41:23.000 --> 00:41:27.159
be a pro perfect. He said, we're not coaching amateurs anymore. These

632
00:41:27.159 --> 00:41:30.199
are professional athletes, sure that we
are coaching now, So why wouldn't you

633
00:41:30.239 --> 00:41:35.760
want to go make some more money
and coach pros who are actually pros?

634
00:41:35.840 --> 00:41:38.079
And then you could take some time
off once a seasons. Right, you

635
00:41:38.239 --> 00:41:40.440
have time off, right, you
don't have to you don't have to go

636
00:41:40.480 --> 00:41:45.280
out recruiting, you don't have to
recruit your team every year, all these

637
00:41:45.320 --> 00:41:49.119
other things that he said, But
it's he said, make no bones about

638
00:41:49.159 --> 00:41:52.960
it. We're not amateur. We're
not coaching amateurs anymore. We're coaching professional.

639
00:41:53.039 --> 00:41:55.760
How would you handle I know lut
would not like it at all.

640
00:41:57.400 --> 00:42:00.800
I'm pretty confidence. How would you
like to do this where you're making good

641
00:42:00.840 --> 00:42:04.039
money, obviously making let's say five
million, and then now you have Killer

642
00:42:04.159 --> 00:42:07.679
Love making x amount of money and
it's x not a small X amount of

643
00:42:07.719 --> 00:42:10.000
money. And then you have other
kids making X amount of money and you're

644
00:42:10.039 --> 00:42:14.360
trying to make them motivated one of
the things. And I'll go to my

645
00:42:14.559 --> 00:42:20.320
deathbed with this. Sean Miller had
a hard time motivating eight Trier Alkins,

646
00:42:20.480 --> 00:42:23.760
those one and done guys, right, because guess what from September to April

647
00:42:23.800 --> 00:42:28.079
when they were here. I'll listen
to you when I can, because guess

648
00:42:28.119 --> 00:42:31.400
what after the season, I'm bout
of here. Honestly, it's a rented

649
00:42:31.480 --> 00:42:37.320
player. No, you're you're one
hundred percent correct. Now maybe, and

650
00:42:37.519 --> 00:42:42.920
this is this is where I hope
that they get this stuff corralled. You

651
00:42:43.000 --> 00:42:45.599
know, if it gets to a
point where, okay, we're gonna have

652
00:42:45.800 --> 00:42:51.119
professional athletes playing college college sports,
which means now you're gonna have to have

653
00:42:51.239 --> 00:42:54.079
contracts, you're gonna have, you
know, to rain all this in where

654
00:42:54.360 --> 00:42:57.559
and you can say, okay,
if you want to play here, you

655
00:42:57.639 --> 00:43:00.960
gotta sign a three year contract right
to play. And if you don't want

656
00:43:00.960 --> 00:43:02.760
to sign a three year contract,
then you're gonna you're not gonna play here,

657
00:43:04.119 --> 00:43:06.760
you know, stuff like that,
and and but there's a lot of

658
00:43:06.840 --> 00:43:09.599
legal aspects to that. I just
saw, you know, a thing today

659
00:43:10.000 --> 00:43:15.039
that said that there's this Division one
College Athletes Advisory Committee, I think it's

660
00:43:15.039 --> 00:43:20.440
what it's called. So it's basically
a group that's representing Division one athletes.

661
00:43:20.760 --> 00:43:23.480
They're saying, the athletes do not
want to be employees. They're trying to

662
00:43:23.920 --> 00:43:30.639
they're trying to do not They're trying
to create a system where you can be

663
00:43:30.719 --> 00:43:36.280
a college athlete but not and get
paid, but not be an employee of

664
00:43:36.320 --> 00:43:39.360
the university that's paying you. So
what would they be called. I don't

665
00:43:39.400 --> 00:43:43.159
know. That's just it. There's
nothing like this. This doesn't exist.

666
00:43:44.400 --> 00:43:47.599
They have to make it up.
They know, they literally have to create

667
00:43:47.719 --> 00:43:52.880
this. I mean, I don't
know if it's the US Department of Revenue,

668
00:43:52.400 --> 00:43:57.840
the or Treasury Department or the State
Department or whoever has to there.

669
00:43:57.880 --> 00:44:01.119
They're basically that's what they're saying,
we need to create system that's unlike any

670
00:44:01.199 --> 00:44:06.320
system that exists, so that these
athletes are going to get paid hundreds of

671
00:44:06.400 --> 00:44:09.440
thousands, maybe millions of dollars are
getting paid by somebody, but they're not

672
00:44:09.519 --> 00:44:15.280
an employee of that person or that
company or group or university that's paying.

673
00:44:15.519 --> 00:44:20.159
Let me give you a scenario.
So you're talking about me signing a three

674
00:44:20.239 --> 00:44:22.239
year deal. If I don't like
it, I can take it, take

675
00:44:22.280 --> 00:44:24.320
it or leave it. Jay,
What if I'm a guy that you really

676
00:44:24.599 --> 00:44:29.599
really want and I'm a coach,
I'm not gonna stay but two years.

677
00:44:29.639 --> 00:44:32.719
I'm telling you this right now.
But the three year obligation is there now

678
00:44:32.840 --> 00:44:36.360
because you need to win or want
to win. You got to decide.

679
00:44:36.840 --> 00:44:38.559
You got to decide as a coach, are you selling your soul if that's

680
00:44:38.599 --> 00:44:43.719
the right term for this guy that
you need for at least a year or

681
00:44:43.760 --> 00:44:46.559
two. But you've already said I
need you for three years? And then

682
00:44:46.559 --> 00:44:51.639
who may get here? It may
suck? Yeah, right, I mean,

683
00:44:52.119 --> 00:44:53.639
you know, think more. Think
about these all the all the five

684
00:44:53.719 --> 00:44:57.920
stars that were never any good.
No, no, you signed one of

685
00:44:57.960 --> 00:45:00.360
those. You signed one of those
too, h you know, whatever,

686
00:45:00.480 --> 00:45:04.360
whatever your number is at your school, Let's say a half a million dollar

687
00:45:04.440 --> 00:45:07.519
contract. Then they get here and
they're not worth ten grand, Well that's

688
00:45:07.519 --> 00:45:09.320
the whole thing. And if they're
at a point guess what you do?

689
00:45:09.519 --> 00:45:13.119
What would happen to you in the
real world, Sorry to say, but

690
00:45:13.320 --> 00:45:16.559
you're you've been terminated. Yeah,
and then or do you do you do

691
00:45:16.639 --> 00:45:22.159
you? You know, do you
trade your point guard to South Carolina for

692
00:45:22.320 --> 00:45:24.280
their point guard? Well? And
you know, what do you do there?

693
00:45:25.000 --> 00:45:28.480
You know? Can you send somebody
somewhere that they don't want to go?

694
00:45:28.719 --> 00:45:31.079
Dude? This this hole is crazy. It is all screw. I

695
00:45:31.159 --> 00:45:36.320
hope I don't make sure you have
your finger on that button because I could

696
00:45:36.400 --> 00:45:39.320
cuss, and I'm cussing in context
and that doesn't mean I mean, but

697
00:45:40.079 --> 00:45:44.360
I don't envy the coaches. But
again, they're not getting away with his

698
00:45:44.519 --> 00:45:46.360
cheap too. They have they're making
a lot of money through right, so

699
00:45:46.440 --> 00:45:51.599
their troubles are being taken care of. But I never imagine this, and

700
00:45:51.639 --> 00:45:55.039
I'm I got ten years in this
business if that I never thought this would

701
00:45:55.079 --> 00:45:59.920
come to this. No, you
know it and it Steven. It kind

702
00:45:59.960 --> 00:46:02.920
of happened fast, isn't it very
fast? That's why that's why there's no

703
00:46:04.039 --> 00:46:08.360
answers. You can't put the toothpaste
back in the Yeah, it it as

704
00:46:08.400 --> 00:46:14.519
they say, it escalated quickly and
everybody got caught off guard and now you've

705
00:46:14.559 --> 00:46:19.440
got you've got a situation that's just
took completely out of control. And even

706
00:46:19.519 --> 00:46:22.920
the solutions that they have are probably
not the right solutions, like patchwork solutions.

707
00:46:22.960 --> 00:46:27.679
Every one of them is some sort
of a patchwork solution. Okay,

708
00:46:28.000 --> 00:46:30.880
this will take care of things for
now, but we need a long term

709
00:46:31.000 --> 00:46:34.760
solution. Yeah, and then take
care of it for now is probably not

710
00:46:34.840 --> 00:46:37.119
the right phrase, because you don't
know if it's gonna take care of it.

711
00:46:37.480 --> 00:46:39.639
I don't envy. I don't envy
the new A D any any u

712
00:46:39.719 --> 00:46:43.599
A D s because they have to. And we talked about this with with

713
00:46:43.760 --> 00:46:45.679
the Rocky and we joke about it
with Live and Good and some of the

714
00:46:45.719 --> 00:46:49.519
other ones. They're glad they're not
an A D. Right. So now

715
00:46:49.800 --> 00:46:52.960
you're getting a little little jagans always
is making money on the side with n

716
00:46:53.039 --> 00:46:58.599
I L Now U A U A
comes back and has to give little jagansawys

717
00:46:58.880 --> 00:47:04.159
more money because from from the new
twenty million dollars bill. And if I'm

718
00:47:04.199 --> 00:47:08.679
a we talked about this with Matt
Reynelson and I'm mister mister Levitz, who's

719
00:47:08.719 --> 00:47:13.760
giving money to either or I don't
need to give it to you anymore.

720
00:47:13.760 --> 00:47:15.800
You already get in it from somewhere
else. Why would I give you more

721
00:47:15.800 --> 00:47:19.760
money I get, yeah, exactly. And they're saying, because I can

722
00:47:19.800 --> 00:47:21.920
go get it somewhere else. So
I'm out of here, and now you're

723
00:47:21.960 --> 00:47:24.559
gonna lose. I don't know,
Steve. Yeah, Well, the good

724
00:47:24.599 --> 00:47:28.559
thing is you and I don't have
to worry about it. But it's it's

725
00:47:28.599 --> 00:47:32.559
a sad situation. Well the thing
about it everywhere, But I guess it's

726
00:47:32.800 --> 00:47:37.159
it's sad when you compare it to
what it was. But on the other

727
00:47:37.239 --> 00:47:40.360
hand, you know, the athletes
are getting paid now, which they should

728
00:47:40.360 --> 00:47:45.199
have been getting paid long before this. Yeah, And if the change had

729
00:47:45.280 --> 00:47:51.159
happened at a reasonable pace, you
know, it might have been it might

730
00:47:51.280 --> 00:47:53.199
not have been so bad. I
don't know if anybody's listening who's an athlete

731
00:47:53.360 --> 00:47:57.440
or former athlete, because they're gonna
get paid from back in the day too.

732
00:47:58.039 --> 00:48:01.880
What would be a reasonable amount to
get paid for what they do as

733
00:48:01.920 --> 00:48:07.559
a college athlete? As a college
athlete twenty five thousand, and you got

734
00:48:07.599 --> 00:48:09.559
a bunch of them, not a
little a few of them, You got

735
00:48:09.599 --> 00:48:16.320
a bunch of them, you know. I don't know because because because it's

736
00:48:16.360 --> 00:48:21.320
gonna Steve, it's always going to
be tied to what are you bringing in?

737
00:48:22.480 --> 00:48:24.920
Okay? Right? Okay, like
like like okay, a car salesman

738
00:48:25.159 --> 00:48:28.599
makes money on the cars that he
sells. Here, she sells, right,

739
00:48:28.840 --> 00:48:30.199
they make the more cars they sell, the bigger, the better cars

740
00:48:30.199 --> 00:48:34.320
they sell, the more money they
make. They're bringing in revenue, so

741
00:48:34.360 --> 00:48:37.519
therefore they get more of it.
Sure, so you got a football player,

742
00:48:37.960 --> 00:48:42.079
you know, a quarterback who's helping
put fifty thousand people in the seats,

743
00:48:42.760 --> 00:48:45.559
Well, how much should they get
versus the tennis player who maybe gets

744
00:48:45.920 --> 00:48:50.079
forty people at they're at their tennis
fan. But if you're okay, I'll

745
00:48:50.119 --> 00:48:52.840
give you that example. But I'm
I'm mister Geist or I'm Delaney syesright,

746
00:48:53.519 --> 00:48:58.800
and I'm winning national titles. The
football players not doing it. Yeah,

747
00:48:59.199 --> 00:49:01.559
that we'll see. That's thing.
That's the dilemma. That's the dilemma.

748
00:49:01.639 --> 00:49:05.760
What what is? What is?
What is Jordan guys for Delaney Chanelle Worth

749
00:49:06.079 --> 00:49:09.679
compared to Noah Flafida and and and
and Tator mcmill. This line in the

750
00:49:09.800 --> 00:49:15.079
sand is disappears at times and then
it moves at times you know, and

751
00:49:15.199 --> 00:49:17.480
maybe you say, Okay, well, okay, Delaney Schanell, go get

752
00:49:17.519 --> 00:49:21.239
paid by the Olympic Committee. That's
where you get your money from, because

753
00:49:21.239 --> 00:49:23.960
they're the ones who are benefiting from
you know, what you're doing. I

754
00:49:24.039 --> 00:49:28.199
don't know that I'm just throwing that
out. I don't know that that's an

755
00:49:28.239 --> 00:49:31.920
answer or even a legitimate answer to
any of that. But but again,

756
00:49:32.039 --> 00:49:36.519
you know, it goes back to
the initial piece of this conversation was that

757
00:49:37.400 --> 00:49:42.320
it's making guys like Danny Hurley,
making guys like Jim Barba, making guys

758
00:49:42.480 --> 00:49:49.920
like Nick saban Uh make life decisions
that they do not want to any longer.

759
00:49:50.000 --> 00:49:52.840
Be a part of this true and
well, the thing too is they're

760
00:49:52.920 --> 00:49:54.800
taking a chance on being good at
what they do at the next level.

761
00:49:55.280 --> 00:50:00.239
Historically, Jay, it doesn't work
well. You've got to be really really

762
00:50:00.239 --> 00:50:01.719
good at it, and the guys
have to respect you. First of all.

763
00:50:01.960 --> 00:50:07.199
It's likely they'll respect Hurly, but
it typically doesn't go well for a

764
00:50:07.239 --> 00:50:09.440
coach from the college Branks. Okay, but thank you. Okay, but

765
00:50:09.519 --> 00:50:13.480
think about both, Nick, think
about what Nick saban right went to the

766
00:50:13.599 --> 00:50:15.679
end, went to the NFL sucked
after a year came back and when he

767
00:50:15.760 --> 00:50:19.960
became you know, Danny Hurley is
probably in a similar position. If he

768
00:50:20.039 --> 00:50:23.199
goes to the Lakers and it's not
very good at it. Who in college

769
00:50:23.239 --> 00:50:28.239
basketball is going to not want to
take him back? Oh sure, No,

770
00:50:28.360 --> 00:50:30.719
no, No, he's got a
job for life. Yeah he does.

771
00:50:31.079 --> 00:50:36.360
And I if for it this way, If he doesn't take this job,

772
00:50:36.440 --> 00:50:39.360
I think he's crazy. Well,
you know what is the one that

773
00:50:40.239 --> 00:50:43.239
gave you the reason? Because the
funny it was a funny thing. That's

774
00:50:43.280 --> 00:50:45.039
part of the conversation. Because he's
he said, he said, he goes.

775
00:50:45.079 --> 00:50:46.519
I was. I was with him
last night. We were at an

776
00:50:46.559 --> 00:50:51.000
event last night and I'm sitting next
to him. No, he goes,

777
00:50:51.039 --> 00:50:53.079
he goes. And I leaned over
him and said, so you're taking that

778
00:50:53.199 --> 00:50:55.679
Lakers job. And he said,
no, I think you should take the

779
00:50:55.760 --> 00:51:00.239
Lakers job. And that Hurley just
kind of looked at him and out of

780
00:51:00.320 --> 00:51:02.960
his head and didn't say anything.
WHOA. Well it didn't come out too

781
00:51:04.039 --> 00:51:07.760
He didn't know, he Arima,
didn't know that he was talking to the

782
00:51:07.840 --> 00:51:10.079
Lakers. It was just a random
question. He said, So you think

783
00:51:10.079 --> 00:51:13.519
you're gonna take the Lakers job or
you know, so like, you know,

784
00:51:13.639 --> 00:51:15.559
he said, I think you should
take the Lakers job, and and

785
00:51:15.880 --> 00:51:19.639
Herey just kind of looked at him
and kind of didn't even wink and it

786
00:51:19.760 --> 00:51:22.440
just kind of nodded and didn't say
anything. He goes, then I get

787
00:51:22.519 --> 00:51:24.280
up this morning and I see this, and I'm like, what the hell.

788
00:51:24.480 --> 00:51:28.519
It's like, what are you doing? And here's the thing. They've

789
00:51:28.519 --> 00:51:30.599
got the same agent. He mentioned, They've got the same agent, and

790
00:51:30.719 --> 00:51:35.840
so even the agent hadn't told Arima
that this was going. Then he made

791
00:51:35.840 --> 00:51:39.719
another funny point real quick an out
of that said, I took less money.

792
00:51:39.840 --> 00:51:43.880
He just signed a contract. Okay, did he goes, I took

793
00:51:44.000 --> 00:51:49.679
less money to leave them money to
pay to pay. Danny Hurley said,

794
00:51:49.920 --> 00:51:52.360
if he takes the Lakers job,
I want some of that money back.

795
00:51:53.400 --> 00:51:57.119
It was a great car if you
if you haven't had chances, you can

796
00:51:57.159 --> 00:52:00.119
on social media. You can find
that that segment with with Gina Armey.

797
00:52:00.199 --> 00:52:02.360
It was really good. I liked
him. I had never really seen him

798
00:52:02.400 --> 00:52:07.519
talk like I've only no, I've
only seen him after after games and stuff.

799
00:52:07.559 --> 00:52:09.079
I think you're you know, he
made a good point with the kitten

800
00:52:09.119 --> 00:52:13.079
Clark stuff too. If you talked
about that as well. It was a

801
00:52:13.159 --> 00:52:15.239
big deal. We can talk about
later, all right, We got to

802
00:52:15.239 --> 00:52:15.760
get out of here, top of
the arm. We're gonna come back.

803
00:52:16.039 --> 00:52:17.280
Ryan is gonna be here with breaking
you so

