What is going on? Clippers fans, Welcome to season two, episode thirty
three of Clips in Dip. If you're on the YouTube live last night,
thanks for hanging out. That was over on at Clippers podcast on YouTube.
Adam came through at work, which was fun. He showed up. Wow,
he showed some leg which was on. But I am Chuck Lockler.
Adam Oslin is here. William Uptick is also here. We got the tripod
for you. We're gonna be talking. The wind streak is over, but
it was fun. We are gonna talk how it ended. Some people were
upset with how it ended. I don't know if I am. We're gonna
look at Clippers versus Celtics, which is a noon thirtier tomorrow, which is
not usually ideal for the Clippers. We're gonna talk Kawhi Leonard being first team
All NBA, and we're bringing back Mari Quarantine for the veteran listeners. Before
we get into it, Adam will We'll start with Adam. How we doing,
how we feel in the day after the streak is over. I'm good.
If you guys are wondering, I'm wearing pants, some sweats. I
saw some pink liquid. I saw some pink liquid in a bottle. Hey,
those are sick. It's a pre workout drink that has some caffeine in
it, Just to give myself a little Adam sipping on the walk. If
you if you're not watching, this is what they call cississs syrup. Cisis
is syrup syrup? Like? Uh, Will? How is Montana? Are
you spreading the Gospel and the Clippers to Laurel Montana? Oh as much as
I can. Yeah, Laurel billains whole, the whole of the hub of
of Central Montana. Hell yeah, we're gonna rope that thing off and it's
gonna be Clippers country soon. Looks like they put you in the attic from
the slant of the ceiling. That's what this was. Yeah, this is
the this is the spare room. Got my got my heavy bag behind me.
Don't press me today, Adam, don't press me today. I got
some takes. Well, I can't see the other side, but Adam's face
is plastim What is happening? What's with the animosity? The fin streak ends
and things go off, the rails off, Chuck, that's what's happening.
I don't know what's going on, how do we how do we feel about
the way that game ended? Adam, you came on the live stream a
little bit last night. We didn't get into the game as a whole,
but some people felt some type of way about how the Clippers played. But
I think with the schedule and who was out, it's kind of to be
expected. They were down thirteen in the first quarter, they battled back.
They were down fourteen in the second quarter, they battled back. It was
that third quarter stretch where they went scoreless for about three minutes. Chit had
the alley up off the backboard to himself, yes, and all of a
sudden, the Clippers started to lose the distance they had closed on the OKC
thunder last night. But I thought overall, this was a game to me
that if they had played it earlier in the season, the first quarter may
have broke them, like what we saw in Dallas earlier this year early on
with James Harden, where basically that first punch they took turned into a knockout.
I think that's what would have happened. But this team is competing,
playing hard, and I know it's not the result you wanted, and they
had to wave the white flag earlier in the fourth quarter, but I was
okay with their competitive spirit overall. It wasn't a team that looked like to
me that had one foot out the door and was satisfied with getting two wins
on this road trip. It looked like they were still fighting. We talked
about that last night. Like I thought, even though you know, it
was disappointed to see an end of the streak, through body language on the
floor was a lot different, and while the defense wasn't what we've come to
expect through that winning streak, I just think it was very clear, and
again not to make excuses, but it was just very clear that this is
an older team that was a little tired out, was really having trouble staying
in front of Oklahoma City there they were just a slice into the rim at
ease. But I thought through all of that, and despite especially that that
first quarter of like insane eighty forty, it was just, I mean,
we did not see the team have like the sort of collapse of poise that
we saw them have previously in game. So I think, like you know,
this isn't even an encouraging loss. To me, It's not quite in
that category. But it's not an alarming loss. I'll say that. Yeah,
when Josh Giddy, who shoots thirty one percent from the outside, goes
three of three in the first quarter, got injured, did play anymore,
but the damage was really done. That was big. They got that jolt
from him and out of the gates, and the Clippers game plan was,
okay, take away everything else, let Josh Giddy shoot, and he burned
him. That's a game plan you can live with. It's just unfortunate the
numbers weren't in their favor. We've seen Jonas Valenciunis be the Josh Giddy before.
We've seen a lot of people be the Josh Gutty before, where it's
like, whatever, man, if they're gonna make those shots, that's how
we're gonna lose this game. Because you don't want to overcompensate too much on
that. What was your favorite? I guess what's the most impressive win for
you guys? From this nine game win streak that the Clippers had. There's
some good wines in there. It's a solid win streak against some legitimate teams.
It we talked about last year's longest win streak, which had two wins
against the Spurs inside of it. This one has a much more robust body
of work for this Clippers team. I'd go I mean, the first one
that comes to mind when you're talking most impressive is beating Denver with them fully
healthy, and the way they had to close that game with disrupting their pick
and roll with Kawhi in Big Zoo, just wrecking jokicch and Jamal Murray and
a pick and roll that has looked unstoppable for a few years now, and
it looked like the Clippers actually have a solution for it now. So I'd
have to go with that. There's been a lot of them, I mean,
a lot of good victories. Beating up the Kings, beating up the
Golden State Warriors twice. I mean the twenty two point comeback against Golden State.
That was something born out of this, I guess, because that was
the start of the nine game road trip, right loss. I hope not.
I don't. I don't. We'll find out tomorrow, Adam, what's
the opposite If something was born out of this, something died tonight, that's
what would be the opposite, right, pretty clear? I like the I
like the Dubs pick That's a good one because that really is that comeback right
before the Denver game. That's a that's something they can point remember to even
if things get a little lower this season than right now. I like that
Dubs pick a lot. I might selfishly go just from the level we saw
Kawhi hit late in the game the game against Dallas, I was gonna say
a couple of years ago, Yeah, that fourth quarter, dude, Kawhi
was just like, Okay, we're gonna win this game now, thank you
so much for coming. We appreciate you being here. Other team, I'm
going to win. We're going like that for me was Kawi has been phenomenal
through this winning streak, obviously, but that was somehow yet another level of
Kawhi ness against the team that I also hate, so Grant Williams. The
Pacers win was great too, But that dunk with the left hands he blew
by Derek Jones Junior. The explosiveness late in the game from Kawhi Leonard,
I don't know if we've seen it to that degree since the torn acl Yeah,
definitely. Yeah. The physically he's just looking he continues to do his
Kawhi ramp up and it's it's looking phenomenal. Will you brought up the Pacers
game, PACER's game to me, that was just I mean, I know,
no, Miles Turner, I to me, that wasn't I that's not
making that big of a difference in that game to me, Like, I
mean not, you know, like yeah on him. I can see the
argument. I'm not saying it would have, you know, like I we
might not have put up one fifty one on them or whatever, but I
will just call him Tina Turner. I can't believe that. Sad. Yeah,
but seeing Harden in that fourth quarter, I mean, that was just
just another level. And that was a game that was just one of those
games that we talked about coming into it. Like I would have been totally
fine to have dropped, like a you know, a reasonably healthy Pacers team
on the you know, on the run that they're on offensively obviously defensively not
quite there. That would have been an understandable loss to me. But to
win in such a convincing fashion and to keep that win streak alive, I
thought that was really something. And reckon Tyrese Halliburton, who I think was
three of twelve in that game, absolutely. And the defense on Luca early
is the other thing I liked from the MAVs game. He was very cold
early in that game with nine of twenty five. I think he only had
seven of his thirty points in the second half. Clippers give guards trouble,
Like if you're on a hot streak and your guard you cannot be that site
on playing Damian Lillard never beat the Clippers. It was great, uh And
the defense this kind of transitions into something we talked about this a little bit
before we started looking a little too far ahead, perhaps should the Clippers make
the playoffs. What did we like kind of playoff wise that we could see
really translating down the road. For me, we just talked the defense on
Luca. The defense on Jokic was really nice to see. We threw him
multiple looks in the win against that. I think I was most encouraged by
the defense on the stretch, probably because Kahi was playing so well. Yeah,
definitely in spurts, although I was just pulling some defensive numbers into why
stunk. According to Adam No, where's the love, guys, It's December
twenty second, but they're just fifteenth defensively over their last ten games and over
their last five they're twenty fourth. Now they were first offensively during that period
in their last five games. But you know, you don't want to have
too much slippash there. This is BS. You just want to stay because
that's their identity. That's how they turn this thing around. Yes, it
was their defense. Now, they played some really good offensive teams, so
some of it's to be expected, but twenty fourth defensively over their last five
games. And look, they took on the Pacers. Okay, see Dallas
was in that stretch, the Knicks and the Warriors. Those were the teams
they saw during those five games. So good offenses overall, some real,
real good offenses. Obviously the Pacers number one in the league. But you
just want to be careful. Something worth monitoring, I guess is fair,
is how I'll put it. I think that's I think that is a fair
concern or not a fair thing to monitor. I think the defense that identity
point, I think is a really good call because you don't want them to
go, Oh, our offense is here. Now we're the best offense in
the league, and now we can hang our hat on that and forget about
defense. Yeah, that's what I don't want. Those two things have to
come together. I like that. Yeah, it was kind of a little
up and down this stretch. One would really be firing, one would take
off of it. But that does kind of make sense given you know,
the starting mashup against and Harden coming into his own a lot more during this
win streak too, which was really cool to see. That was one of
my favorite parts. Yeah, and they're still over their last eighteen games since
the new starting lineup. Their top ten offense, top ten defense, but
they're tenth defensively there where they were just five kid games ago. Yeah,
kissing five the top five will what did you like, maybe kind of playoff
down the road Wise from this this wind streak, we just got our first
glimpses of like what this offense can actually look like when it's clicking. I
think that was one of the things that was so disheartening about the losing streak.
We knew that it would take time with James Harden, it just feels
like there wasn't It didn't seem like there was a lot of linear progress,
and now all of a sudden, we're seeing something like completely different. We're
seeing more ball movement. We're seeing sort of the idea for how, you
know, how Harden is going to handle the ball, and you know George
and Kawhi are both going to be able to get their shots off and around
that. Tyleru has talked about it, but I just thought it was very,
very apparent. I feel like we saw more ball movement in the last
nine games than we did in the entirety of the previous season combined. So
last ten games, I guess, but yeah, yeah, yeah. The
Harden zoom pick and roll opens up a lot of other stuff for the Clippers,
which is really cool to see. Adam I think he pointed out that
pass that Harden hit a mer with in the corner against the Thunder last night,
and I think Amir missed the three, but it was a hard and
pick and roll to Zoo and it was it was just a perfect read.
It was split second. It was nice to see. I know Adam's answer
to this, did a mere coffee do enough in the stretch to earn some
real playoff run? I think he might have. He knows playoff lineups are
often determined in December, so I know, but he's Alway's got like PJ
Tucker's not playing in the playoffs. I think we know that. I don't
know that. Yeah, I actually don't know that. I'm gonna lose.
I don't. Okay, that's no, no, no no. Against the
right matchup for five to ten minutes against somebody like Yo Kicher Zion, I
would be fine with throwing PJ. Tucker out there. His defense is still
good, Zion, sure, yokitch. I guess yeah, I guess I'll
have to see it. Maybe I'm so sour because we haven't seen him play
any meaningful basketball. It's on YouTube from the last couple of months if you
want to check it out. When the Glimmers have played their best, he
hasn't been there, so color me a little bit skeptical. We saw some
people say the Powell Rangers lineup, as you talked about Adam, they've been
number one offensively. That lineup has really helped things you talked about defense.
That lineup has a pretty easy person to hunt at the point of attack,
which is Norman Powell. And we have some comments on the stream yesterday talking
about how maybe that lineup in the playoffs won't be as effective. But I'm
just enjoying the Powell Rangers ride. There's no reason to not get excited about
this, and I think Norm Powell will win the Clippers a playoff game at
some point. I think Norm Powell's defense has been much better to start off
this season. He said it training camp that the team wasn't looking for him
to wait to start playing defense until they make the playoffs. It needs to
start from game one, and I think overall he's looked better in that respect,
and that's why the Powell Rangers lineup I think is somewhere in the nineties
with their defensive RGN, and I don't think it's my nineties. It's with
like ninety three ninety four. Yeah, it's a pretty crazy D rating.
I mean, the best team defensive rating in the NBA is like one O
seven and them with that Powell Rangers lineup is somewhere around ninety five. Start
PJ start Norm the ultimate will combination in the playoffs. Who says no?
All right? Any last notes on the end of the win streak. I
would like to say, maybe if things don't go as smoothly as they have
later on down the season, let's remember this time and what we saw from
the Clippers and the development we saw on how good this team could actually be.
Let's remember fondly on these times. Would be my advice to people,
Yeah, just don't overreact. If they lose to Boston and all of a
sudden it's two losses in a row. Now, if they then lost Charlotte
too, if they lost to Charlotte and Memphis afterwards, that's my much more
concerning sure, but I'm more worried about they got to a point where you
could say, Okay, we're back to if there's good process and they lose,
it doesn't feel as bad. It's not just about you gotta win tonight.
Regardless, they're too far down the standings. That nine game winning streak
got them back to that place maybe we thought they would be to start off
the season where they were three to nine or whatever it was. They ended
up making up for that six game losing streak, and now they're kind of
in that position where we thought they could be given the adjustment period with James
Harden now and just that transitional phase seventeen and eleven is solid. They're top
five right now in the West, and they're within striking distance of being top
two. Yeah, I'm glad that you bring that up, because I do
think as they continue to stack up wins and win in bunches like this,
they get a little bit more breathing room, which is obviously great just from
a perspective of comfortability as a as a Clippers. But we talked about this
a little bit on the stream last night, so I'm not gonna retread too
much ground here in case if you're listening to this you already saw that.
But it did it did get me thinking about, especially that game in Oklahoma
City, about how there is actually, with the talent level of this team.
You know, once we're in a comfortable standing, there is minutes like
actual developmental minutes for guys lower down in the rotation that I did not think
were there a couple of weeks ago, you know, real obvious one to
point to is a mere coffee seeing him get some minutes and and good minutes,
you know, not just time minutes like actual minutes. And that's one
of those things that, uh, you know, when they're a little bit
more comfortable in the standings, or if they you know, stand pat where
they are in the standings, it's not crazy to have one of two on
three rest a game to throw a few more minutes to bones Hyland, to
give some of these other guys some real opportunities, which from where we were
on that losing streak and where we were in the standings just felt like something
that was so far out of reach. I really just I couldn't even wrap
my head around it because there were so many issues with the main players that
it was like it you know, it wasn't even something I could bother to
think about. But that is something that's actually really exciting to me, is
if this is one of those teams that can you know, night in,
night out put away teams, I mean, especially lesser teams in you know,
three quarters of play from your main guys, that starts to get really
interesting in terms of what you can do with some of these other rotation guys
and sort of you know, we're talking about playoffs in December, like your
playoff rotations could look a lot different if you can make meaningful minutes for some
of these guys who could actually figure in to soaking up some minutes in a
playoff series. And I should point out as much as I had a little
bit of concern over the defensive numbers recently, somebody on Twitter hit me up
like he was listening to the show, and we were still alive. Surprisingly
al Ray, they're not outside your window, are they? No? Okay,
I'm keeping you safe. Man. Rich eighty nine wisely pointed out that
a couple of those fourth quarters against New York and against Indiana it was garbage
time minutes and the Clippers gave up a ton of points. Yeah, so
you take out some of the inconsequential time minutes, obviously the defensive rating would
look a little bit better over the last five, last ten games. That's
a good call. Shout out. All right, thank you for that.
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dip. We talked a little bit about the win streak, which is now
snapped. But now we're looking ahead to the Clippers, the rest of the
Clippers schedule to close out twenty twenty three, and no better place to start
than Saturday. First, Boston, Adam, you wanted to add this to
the rundown, which you definitely read. Where'd you like to kick off things
on Boston? I like the sarcasm there. Well, there's a lot of
interesting points to make here. First of all, Jason Tatum turned his ankle
against the Golden State Warriors. He didn't play against Sacramento in a game they
still won where they shot over fifty percent from the outside. Recently, but
they're only one game over five hundred on the road, I want to say
they're seven and six. They haven't been as dominant there. And if you
look at some of the advanced numbers I mentioned the Clippers over the last ten
games, while well, they're fifteenth defensively, Boston is eleventh, but the
Clippers are the last ten, number one offense, and Boston during that stretch.
You gotta scroll down a little bit. In fact, I'm trying.
Are you having to switch pages? Is that how far down they are?
Are you having to go to next page? No? Why this turn into
a where's pauldo? Oh, I'm being sarcastic. They're right behind the Clippers.
They're right next to them in offensive rating, and if you go to
pace of play, these two teams are right next to each other. Recently
over the last eighteen games with the Clippers' new starting lineup Boston and them,
I think they're both right next to each other. Yeah, in pace of
play and they're both yeah, Clippers nineteenth and pace of play, Boston twentieth.
Pace of play. So there's a lot of similarities and ways to compare
these teams right now. But Kristaps Porzingis is playing amazing basketball. A lot
of people thought last season in DC with the Washington Wizards, Oh are those
empty numbers? No, they're not. They are translating to winning. Now
with the Boston Celtics. He's shooting forty two percent from three over his last
ten games. He's just been a beast. And they're a matchup problem because
they can their starting lineup when Jason Tatum is there. We'll see about tomorrow,
but they can stretch you out. They can go five out with their
starting lineup. Not many teams, if any can say that, can boast
that Boston is pretty unique in that way. It feels like every year,
excuse me, of the two one three era, the Celtics and Clippers are.
It's kind of like looking in a mirror personnel wise. Right there,
Team Mane guys are two big wings. Our Team Maine guys are two big
wings. Like it's it's always been very kind of like Clippers west over there,
Kawhi. They just released the injured port questionable for the game against the
Celtics. PG not on the report, so his tummy is all good.
Norm Palace should be healthy to go. But if Kawhi can't go, the
Kris staphs porzingis problem seems bigger to deal with. Wait, what the F
is this? I'm seeing Kris STAPs porzingis is out? Wait do you want
to screen share? I don't know how to do that. I can't read
the rundown. I can't screen share screenshare for the old man hold on oh
left ankle sprain game eighteen minutes ago. It just happened justin Russo eighteen minutes
ago. Okay, well, not helping. It will you're gonna do that?
Will are you gonna help? You're a time casual nineteen Now, time
casual is a very I am time casual. I think that is. I
think that that's very fair. That is such a great term for people who
were late all the time. Hannah times to Adam wonderful. Anyway, kristaphs
for zingis out for tomorrow's game against the Clippers, while Jason Adam is still
questionable. Ooh, that's a bit of a spicy meatball. Given the time
for this one. Well, I'm guessing Kawhi Leonard doesn't play now. I
don't think they're gonna push it if he's questionable. And again, like we
talked about last night, when Kawhi Leonard is actually rolling around in pain,
it probably hurts pretty bad because he didn't even do that when he tores Acla,
so you can say, oh, it's a bruise, it's a contusion.
It's gotta be bad if Kawhi Leonard was looking like that. Do we
have any So this is shaping up to be a potential really wonky game.
It's not gonna be as indicative as we thought of some big head matchup where
we can really you know, have a lot of takeaways from it and read
into it and project forward of the playoffs or a possible finals matchup. That
kind of bums me out. That that makes me sad. Well still white,
Yeah, Jeeling Brown. Those guys lit up the Sacramento Kings. Pritchard
off the bench, had twenty plus points in that game. I believe as
well. He can be a he can be a spark book. He can
just start hitting three. It's insane. Put my Ducks hat on. You're
gonna tell me about Peyton Pressure. He's great. I'm he's giving him praise.
He's fine. He plays in the NBA, one of the top four
hundred and fifty players in the world. Chuck you how many? Chuck?
I'm on your side. What's the stat that people always talk about where they're
like only four thousand people have played And that's like such a new stat that
people have started bringing out this year. I feel like, of like only
forty five hundred people have actually played in the NBA. It's like, okay,
still, big numbers aren't exactly easy to wrap your head around. So
this game, this game is is this game of toss up? Just forty
five hundred the biggest number you can think of? Yeah, why else would
I need a bigger number? I've never seen more than forty five hundred dollars.
I've never spent more than forty five dred dollars on a car. Uh
yeah, what's the biggest thing you can think of? Five? I got
that many receipts on me right now? Well, we know that that's it.
You could be like that, what's that old commercial where the guys wearing
all the receipts? There's an old money commercial. Luckily we're observing humility season
right now. Sure is this game? This is like a weird toss up.
Now we're gonna need like this might have to be now the Clippers need
to win, Yeah, Clipers need to win if they don't have Tatum and
Chris staffs Porzing, Yes, just without Kawhi Leonard, even if they're just
missing one of those two guys. I'm gonna say, coming back home twelve
thirty start you want things to be different this season, start winning those twelve
thirty games. And to be honest, I've never really bought into the oh
woe is me twelve thirty start times? Only because of this nobody else really
has them like the Clippers. I understand it, but at what point can
we get away from saying, you know, it just throws them off their
rhythm When they have so many of these twelve thirty starts, at what points
should they be used to them? If we're always talking about how they have
them, that means they should probably be used to them by now and adjust.
I mean, yeah, when it comes to a nooner game, the
Clippers are bane, they should be taking advantage. They should absolutely be taken
advantage of opponents at the at the twelve at the noon thirty game. They
were born in midday light, no one else because you haven't even adapted to
it. They were walking on the sun like smash Mouth. Another rip.
You know what I think Boston might be doing though, I think they might
be waiting for the Laker game on Monday, and they're gonna rest Jason Tatum
and Kris STAPs in this game for the big showcase against the Lakers on Christmas.
I big dogs in LA. No, it's about the NBA wanting to
see those guys out there, and it could end up be in a similar
situation what we saw with the Knicks last weekend, where the Clippers take them
out, and then they beat the Lakers. I would love to see that
with Boston. That'd be a good time. So the Celtics game is should
maybe probably be a dub. The rest of the games in twenty twenty three
for the Clippers, they play the Hornets and then they played the Grizzlies,
a rejuvenated Grizzlies team with John Morant. He sets, yes, he does.
The Hornets. That should be a win, right, they better be
right. They're at home. The Hornets are one of the worst teams in
the league. You have to win that ballgame. You have to win that
ball game. It's at a normal time. If you want to be a
top two seed, day have top three seed. That's a game where it
would be nice to see the defensive rat and get a little loose in the
fourth quarter because it's already put away. It would you know, we should
dispatch Memphis. I feel like fairly easily as well too. I mean other
than Jared Jackson Junior, I mean who stopping anybody? I mean like defensively
though, like who's really stop anybody. I would love to see that be
a big Zoo game. No Steven Adams for Memphis. Like I know,
I mean no disrespect to Jah or anything, but like, the Grizzlies are
just not that good of a team right now. They they're down a lot
of guys. They lost a lot of guys in free agency. They're not
the team that they were last season in the season before, so I didn't
realize that they were only eight to nineteen. Yeah, they suck. Suck.
No, I don't think they're gonna suck anymore. I think they are
going to slowly start creeping up the standings. I don't know if that means
they'll make the playoffs because they're in this big hole. But they got their
shot in the arm back with having job Morant, and they still have talent
on the team. They still have Bane, they still have Marcus Smart.
Now, like they're good, their record is not indicative of who they are
going to be. We get them in the midst of a pretty hellish scheduling
situation. So they play It's Grizzlies Pelicans on the twenty sixth, Grizzly's Nuggets
on the twenty eighth, Then they come to La for Grizzlies Clippers the next
day. Okay, I like that a lot Okay, I'm not That sounds
like a schedule loss for them. Yeah, that's making me feel a little
bit better about that matchup. So this feels like it's not crazy to think
the Clippers could head in to twenty twenty four. Well, a little bit
of a wind streak going right three and oh would be pretty nice, pretty
nice way to start the year. I would put them at twenty and eleven.
I like that, it would be fun. And then the Clippers,
of course were quite forty five hundred, but one fifteen hundredth of that,
thank you, Wow, you are good at that. And then of course
the Clippers good at math mad at time. You know, it's my curse,
my curse, bro. Then of course the Clippers play on New Year's
Day at seven point thirty, which I have no idea what to think about
a New Year's Day game. So I like that night day night of New
Year's Day, New Year's Day night against the heat, which will feel good.
It can be a lot of people shopping. Why do people shop on
new Esday? Probably like after New Year's Day sales, yeahday sales, New
Year's Day sales generally car dealership does this, you moron? What are you
so upset about I was just asking you. You called me out like it
was something crazy. It's not. White people are going to be buying cars
instead of the game. Yeah they are. But in those cars that's con
die buddy, that's actually great place to get a car. That's where we
got our car. Shout out Russell Westbrook. Die still still Thunder colors though
on the license playholder they give you thunder Up for life. Oh the fucking
talking about so we're feeling good about Oh, we gotta pick players of the
game, players of the game versus the Boston Celtics. Adam, who you're
game? Okay, We'll pick James hard Will yelled out James Harden and picked
James Harden. He's back on his one word or two word answers, shaved
Harden. What should they do when? Yeah, uh, I'm gonna go
with you know what, Monsta Zoo, Big Zoo, Big Zoo. Okay,
he only played seventeen minutes against the Okac Thunder. They don't have Kris
STAPs Sporzingis, so he can't get pulled away from the basket with that stretch
five. I'm going with the beats of Zoo Boss to have a little fifteen
and twelve game two glocks, just a little fifteen twelve and two. I
like that idea, all right, so will said James Harden. No logic
just saying James Harden just picking him. Uh well, it just goes through
the same logic, like if one of two, one, three is down.
I really want to see Harden. I really want to see Harden be
taking the reins of the team. And obviously as a facilitator that's great to
see. Uh, but I like to see him empowered offensively, like as
a scorer, and I think that that I think that that's a good matchup
for him. So, like we expected, logic and time casual don't go
well together. Wow. I don't know what's happening. The pot is unraveling
as we hurtle towards twenty twenty four. I'm doing my math. Keep it
contentious. I no, not keep it contenttion. We're all flippering. We're
all tearing this pot apart, Lisa, I am picking someone who I really
hope is good to end twenty twenty three to PJ. Tucker, Buddy,
you did it. It's wow. Charles picked PJ. Tucker. I don't
like this new thing where you guys are somehow PJ. Tucker fans. It
makes no you are you picked Terrence Man. I'm tired of this tarrant.
The people are starting to maybe get a little too spic There's one on Terrence
Man in in clipper in Clipperland right now on the on the Clipper ship that
uh yeah, he's if you can, he's looking like Byron's dog. If
you've read the wager, thank you. I was just about to reference the
wager man genius. It's looking like Captain Cheap if you know about uh,
if you know about the wager. But no, Arrence Man, I'm not
asking him to have twenty points. He's just going to be efficient. He's
going to find a shot. He's going to be efficient. He's gonna help
boost this elderly Clippers team in this twelve thirty start. He's gonna hit his
first three. Terrence Man is going to have a bounce back game and people
are going to appreciate it, and they're gonna see how good he is a
point of attack defense too, because he's gonna help Clippers play good defense as
well. Can we address this for a second, because Terrence Man has been
a talking point over the last couple of days, especially after he struggled again
in Okase in a game where they could have used him to catch that heater.
Finally, Uh, oh, get a little cat there, Yeah,
little gravy. Hey, what's up, Gravy? I remember you? You're
not hey? If you're not watching YouTube, you missed my my very cute
small cat. It's over YouTube dot com slash at Clippers podcast. You know,
I hear cat videos are big. That's gonna get us a rating spike
here. Yeah, we need we need to do a segment on cat just
cats on the last segment. Okay, but uh, Terrence Man, for
all the concern about him offensively and how he's hurting the starting lineup well,
in fifteen games since the new starting lineup with him next to James Harden,
uh, they're shooting fifty a team and forty from the outside when terriffs Man
is out there in the starting lineup. Why are we so concerned? If
it's not hurting the team, it would be nice And I think at some
point he's going to get back to his career averages from the outside. But
when he does, that means they'll be even better. I agree, with
you, Adam, I think like the more troubling thing is it seems like
we're seeing more of indecision terrence. I didn't even I don't even care if
he's missing the three so long as he's taking them. I just think offensively,
if he's second guessing himself or not having confidence, that that dilutes some
of his value and all the good things that even though his shooting hasn't been
great to start the season, he still has been. I mean, I
mean he's been I don't know what we do without him on the defensive end,
I guess, you know, especially with Uh, I mean, it's
very He has been a huge part of being able for Kawhi and Paul George
to be able to do what they do on the offensive end by him picking
up a lot of the slack there. He's a great glue guy. He's
been doing all of these things. I think the thing that gets troubling is
when you see him overthinking things again on the floor, because we've seen that
before, and I guess I just feel like at this point in his tenure
he should be a little bit more secure. Although I'm still giving him the
leeway because he has been asked to do he can. He has been asked
to do more throughout his tenure than any other Clipper, and that has only
continued this year with him, you know, being in and out of the
starting lineup. That ankle injury, I think really really set him back.
I think we'd be looking at a different Terrence Man right now had that not
ever happened. But I agree he's gonna bounce back. I just think the
things that are more troubling are not necessarily the numbers so much as how he
looks tentative at times on the floor. But my point then would be it's
not really hurting the team. What if he was hitting three pointers, that
starting five would be at forty four percent. Together, they'd be shooting fifty
five percent from the field. Like, okay, maybe they can't read through
max potential until Terrence Man finds his shooting stroke. But they're pretty damn good
still because of all the little things he does. I take your point.
The wheels are turning. You can see it out there. He's overthinking or
underthinking or paralysis by analysis. He is in his own head, to say
the least offensively with his shot. But they're still damn good. That starting
five with him out there and what he brings defensively and being a connector and
teams. By the way I saw it against Dallas, they were still closing
out on him on three pointers. They're not sagging off of him and treating
him like he's Russell Westbrook in the corner. His reputation precedes him. He's
a thirty eight percent career three point shooter. So let's not overreact to this
right now and say a mere coffee should all of a sudden be starting because
Terrence Man is in a shooting bunk which has not affected the team at all,
and that is my pick for player of the game for the Clippers.
Let's go Terrence, right, yeah, the fireworks game. Let's go all
right. I'll let us know who you think is gonna be player of the
game either on YouTube or over on Twitter at Clippers Pod. I think we've
all been right every time we've guessed one of these, which is pretty crazy.
That's success rates unbelievable. Doyn't make me pull receipts on that. If
you went back and pulled those receipts, I would we would have to have
to point out the times we were about players of the game. Yeah,
because surely Adam's never been wrong. That would be so funny. Not during
Humility season. I'll tell you that. All right, Coming up, we're
gonna talk Kawhi Leonard first Team All NBA status as of now, and then
do a fun little game and then send everyone on their mary way. We
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up in three two one. Welcome back in Clips and Tip season two,
episode thirty three, I'm out a Moslin. We got Tummy's all good in
Time Casual on the show as well. Bro, Temmy's all good. I
will take that as a nickname. Chuck the Pink Stuff did the trick is
with us along with will Updyke. The Clippers have won nine of ten.
Now, that's where we're pivoting to and shifting to after they lost their first
game in three weeks in Okase. But there's some other stuff to talk about,
like award season uh, and just starting to get that momentum for all
the casuals out there, not necessarily time casuals, but just NBA fans who
still feel like oh, Kawhi Leonard only plays twice a week. I still
see that stuff out start watching during Christmas. That's a section of fans for
sure. Yeah, yeah, it's real. Kawhi Leonard played twenty seven straight
games until missing that game against the OKC Thunder, but twenty seventh straight.
By being a two way player, it's a little bit more meaningful because of
his impact on both ends of the floor, and he is back to consistently
playing locked in elite defense, very good to elite defense out there, and
especially taking up the challenge late in ball games when it's winning time. That's
what's most important. He's out there guarding the other team's best player and it's
telling everyone in the huddle that's what he wants to do. Hell yeah,
So Kawhi Leonard right now, if the season ended, he's first team All
NBA. He is one of the five best players in the NBA. That's
what that would mean. I think it's true. Right, So if like,
let's look at who's for sure on the ballot, right, you got
I mean you have Joel Embiid. He has better numbers than his MVP season
last year so far, so I think you kind of got to put Joel
on there and it's positionless now, so anybody which makes it weird? Do
you? Jokicch No, not right now, you don't think so, No,
Yokich, all right, So embid he has tough, tough stretches,
honest, probably honest. Yeah, he had the sixty point game recently,
I think probably honest, Shae, Yeah, probably Shay, given team success
is what, So there's three. I'm not seeing a lot of other people
who are gonna knock Kawhi Leonard off those last two spots. No, you
might be able to put Jason Tatum in there as for sure. Yeah,
I could see that because you also you got to think about games missed,
because there's all the stuff now too, about sixty five games which Kawhi Leonard
is more than on pace for. I'm taking that into account twenty seven or
twenty eight games played so far. Hell yeah, yeah, I'm not seeing
anyone who's dethroning Kawhi from first team as of December twenty second, five,
nineteen PM. For our time Stamp fans out there, will what are you
seeing? You look like you're in Swordfish right now with all the hack and
you're doing. Are you looking up at vand stats. Somebody in the room
with you and we can't see him. Who's leading in VORP? That's my
pick for a first team. Whoever's leading in VORP value over replacement p Ooh
Anthony Edwards might be in here. Oh yeah, is go bear? Go
bear? He's playing defense at a level that is as much as I hate
to admit defensive Player of the Year level, I mean I put Anthony Edwards
over him still because the same team probably right, they're not gonna put that
rule. No, yeah, new rule, only one for each team.
That'd be great. Like it's like the Walter Payton Man of the Year Award
where teams can only nominate one guy to the first team All NBA. This
actually might be a good rule. I like this idea they used to have
in baseball where there has to be a representative from each team making the All
Star Game rules. That's awesome. Just like the shittiest team in the world.
I'm just sending guy. I think Anthony Edwards. Yes, So that's
so, somebody is who's the point guard? Because there's got to be a
point There doesn't need to be a point guard. It's positionless. Oh,
that's right, Luca could still be in here. Yeah, And this is
where that this is where how hard it is to be a two way player.
This is why the two way player gets discredited because Lucas defense is bad
and Kawhi Leonard plays as good of an offensive game. It's different, but
it's as good of an offensive game, and he plays first team all defensive
level defense. Like, Yeah, I would put him above Luca because of
no defense and Anthony Edwards just because of how hot Kawhi Leonard has been.
But I think that's a conversation those two I can see. Yeah, for
sure, I think he's likely in. He's likely all first team Kahi.
Yeah, yeah, I think that's fair. Will. Who are you?
Who are you taking over? Kawhi? PJ? Tucker shut the I knew
it. I knew I was already saying, Terrence Man, I actually think
first team all in me a uh? Who else could be in this conversation?
Then Kevin Durant could be in the conversation with Phoenix even though they've lost
three of their last ten. How many games has he missed? I don't
think he's missed money. He's still been putting up numbers in a lot of
those losses. Wait, they've only lost three games out of the last ten.
Seven and three isn't that bad? Sorry, they've lost seven of the
last ten. Got it? Okay, that's worse record, casual, Am
I the numbers guy. Will's the numbers guy, Dude, he called it
out. That is worse. Seven and three and seven is worse than seven
and ten. All right, well, we have the defense. I think
we've all settled it. Kawai will be first team All NBA at the end
of the year. I think this conversation pretty much settles. In December twenty
second, five two pm, go ahead and lock it in. NBA brass,
whoever is Adam Silver, If you're listening, leave a review. It
would really boost us to have that email address on there. All right,
now, we're getting into a fun thing. It's the holiday season somehow.
Christmas is on Monday. We're doing a Love Mary Quarantine from the old,
old old Lockdown Clippers show. These are so you gotta you gotta pick one
to Adam if you're unfamiliar. You gotta pick one that you love, pick
one that you marry to that you're really committed to, and pick one to
quarantine. Because it's in the hell away from me, the hell away from
me. I mean, that's the person you want to quarantine with, Like,
that's the only person I means' it means they're sick, and you said
get away from me. Just a lot of people could be confused. Okay,
I'm trying to get claration here. I appreciate it. I'm going to
clarify and make sure the game is as fun as possible for everybody. Uh
So, we are picking Clippers players starring in classic Christmas movies. So the
first option we have is of Viza Zubats as Kevin McAllister in Humbloe. The
second option is Kawhi Leonard as Buddy in Elf, and the third option is
Tylo as Clark Griswold in Christmas Vacation. Will which of these are you loving?
Marrying and quarantining? Which do you want to see the most? I'm
loving Christmas Vacation, but I have to make a substitution. I wanted to
be Paul George instead, because I think when he gets the Jam of the
Month club instead of getting a Christmas bonus, Paul George doing that speech to
me is just it's perfection. I want Okay, I need to see that
in a film. I'm sure AI is gonna be nipping every single month like
movies soon and but you you'll be able to put Paul George in there.
So that's the only good outcome of all of AI. So thanks for that.
You load an app just to put Paul George. That's all right.
You're you're married. You're marrying that one. I'm loving that one. And
what are you marrying? I'm marrying. I gotta marry of each a zoo
bot, says Kevin mccallison, and quarantining. Uh, Kawhi's buddy delf.
That's not really he'd be James Khan in that, so I had that as
the other option to Kawhi is the dad in Elf? I think is really
fun. That would be good. All right, so let's switch it,
Adam, We'll do Kauhi as the dad in elf. Which of these three
are you? What's your love? Very quarantine? Can I get Kawhi as
Bruce Willis and die hard instead? Like with the way he's shooting ho ho
ho, Now I have a machine gun. I mean, that's freaking Kawhi
Leonard Lately. Uh, you're yeah, that would be funny too. Actually,
one of kai is Don McLain is Halloween. Believe it? All right?
What are you marrying? I'm marrying a vitza Zoobots as Kevin McAllister in
Home Alone. It's so just Zoo doing one of these is perfect. I
want to quarantine Elf, even though I took Kawhi from Elf and put him
in die Hard, because I've never seen Elf, and I'm not the biggest
Will Ferrell fan in the world. Have you not seen Elf? Just as
just not something you're in a din or? Is it now? Kind of
like a point because that movie is I don't like when Will Ferrell is the
main actor. It just wears on me. I feel like he's doing the
same sn L routine I've seen so many times before. I like him aside
characters like in Jan Sla Bob or like in Wedding Crashers more. Would you
you have no interest in ever seeing Elf? If it was Christmas season,
maybe I'd check it out. But if it is alas it is December,
it's not. It's it's Humility season, all right, that's fair? I
am. I am marrying uh Zoo as Kevin McAllister. That is that one
made me laugh just out loud in my apartment. I could see him with
the mac and cheese. Oh yeah, the wet bandits would get wrecked.
Oh man, yeah yeah, Zoo's just yeah. One of the pranks is
he makes them stand underneath a basketball hoop and dunks on them and then a
trap door to the batesment or something. I'm going to I'm gonna love Kawhi
as Walter and Elf. That'd be very funny, but makes me think of
what other Clippers player would be buddy to Annoy Kawhi as buddy the elfie Bones
or Russ because Russ would be a good buddy the Elf to Kawhi's Walter.
I think it would have been Reggie a few years ago when Kawhi called him
out and said didn't passed the ball for that ship. Or Scenarius Thordwell,
who just seemed like a very fun locker room guy. I will just say,
well, I pulled receipts on and he tried to come after me.
Well, there you go. And then I guess I'll quarantine tylerwis Clark Griswold
because Tyler works so hard. You know, I just don't want to see
him in that scenario. He just worked so hard. I thought about wraps
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Adams throw now the wristwatch. He's got to get out of here. Out
of any quick positive words before the holiday season time Cashule going a little along
there. Uh. I think the Boston Celtics are gonna overlook the Clippers in
this game and maybe punt and get ready for Christmas Day against the Lakers.
Let's do it. I think it's happening. Let's do it. I think
it's happening too. We're gonna will it into existence. We're gonna have some
double dips for y'all, full pod out. Maybe on Wednesday. We're gonna
take a little bit of time, but it's Christmas, but maybe we'll have
something fun for you tube hags or something. We hope everyone's having a wonderful
holiday season. And as always, let's go clips.