WEBVTT 1 00:00:01.720 --> 00:00:07.919 In coming to you live from Houston, Texas, home to the world's largest 2 00:00:07.919 --> 00:00:21.199 medical centers. On the day, we're going this is your Health First, 3 00:00:22.000 --> 00:00:26.280 the most beneficial health worlde. I'm on radio with doctor Joe Blant. During 4 00:00:26.320 --> 00:00:30.359 the next hour you'll learn about health, wellness and the prevention of disease. 5 00:00:30.760 --> 00:00:42.159 Now here's your host, doctor Joe Blanti. Well, it is as always 6 00:00:43.600 --> 00:00:48.759 a marvelous Sunday evening and I'm so happy all of you can join us on 7 00:00:48.799 --> 00:00:54.960 the radio tonight for another installment of Your Health First. I'd like to think 8 00:00:55.079 --> 00:01:03.400 that we are the beacon of light for the health and wellness information you all 9 00:01:03.680 --> 00:01:10.319 need to know, your guiding light. 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Now you may 29 00:03:00.319 --> 00:03:04.560 be saying, how old am I if I've known this guy for fifty years, 30 00:03:04.639 --> 00:03:07.080 Well you'll have to do the math. But anyway, David and I 31 00:03:07.120 --> 00:03:13.479 went to high school together on Long Island. Long Island's New York. Dave 32 00:03:13.560 --> 00:03:15.120 is still in New York, so his new York accent may still be a 33 00:03:15.120 --> 00:03:21.120 bit stronger than mine. But he is an advisor, a ghost author, 34 00:03:21.240 --> 00:03:27.199 a writer, strategic marketer, brand amplifier, and thought leader, and I 35 00:03:27.199 --> 00:03:31.120 would say all around smart guy. Now we are going to be discussing an 36 00:03:31.280 --> 00:03:36.000 article that was in the Wall Street Journal a week or so ago. The 37 00:03:36.039 --> 00:03:39.599 title was would life be better if you worked less? From part time hours 38 00:03:39.599 --> 00:03:46.879 to four day work weeks Americans experiment with living more. Now, while it 39 00:03:46.000 --> 00:03:52.800 is talking about work life balance and people coming back and enjoying life, I 40 00:03:52.840 --> 00:03:59.400 am going to try with David to put a health and wellness spin to the 41 00:03:59.520 --> 00:04:02.120 discussion, because really, at the end of the day, that is what 42 00:04:02.280 --> 00:04:08.120 it is about our own health and wellness. So David will be coming up 43 00:04:08.120 --> 00:04:11.439 in just a few minutes. The one thing I want to chat about now 44 00:04:11.479 --> 00:04:16.040 before we finish up this first segment. I have been posting for the last 45 00:04:16.199 --> 00:04:24.680 week or two on Instagram pictures talking about the pill mentality. Now I write 46 00:04:24.680 --> 00:04:30.600 about it in my book, and what is the pill mentality? Well, 47 00:04:30.199 --> 00:04:36.240 it is where the general public, my patience, maybe you listening listening audience 48 00:04:38.879 --> 00:04:46.279 has this idea that they are going to achieve wellness or achieve health by simply 49 00:04:46.360 --> 00:04:50.879 taking a pill. Now the typical scenario, and this happens almost every day 50 00:04:50.959 --> 00:04:55.199 in the office when we're seeing patients. We see a patient and of course, 51 00:04:55.279 --> 00:04:58.759 you know, I take care of patients that have liver disease, and 52 00:04:59.120 --> 00:05:01.759 usually by the time they see me, though not always, they have a 53 00:05:01.759 --> 00:05:09.040 more serious case. And myself and my staff we will present to them the 54 00:05:09.079 --> 00:05:15.160 results of their laboratory tests or their cat scans or biopsies procedures that they've had, 55 00:05:15.480 --> 00:05:17.959 the old records that we review and we size it up and we say, 56 00:05:18.000 --> 00:05:25.680 look, this is not a totally irreversible problem. This is something that 57 00:05:25.759 --> 00:05:31.160 we can turn around. But we need to intervene now. The waiting kicking 58 00:05:31.199 --> 00:05:35.839 the can down down the road. Those days are over. This is what 59 00:05:35.879 --> 00:05:41.480 we need to do, and we and we outline a plan, a reasonable 60 00:05:41.480 --> 00:05:48.000 plan, and after we spend a good thirty minutes with them going through what 61 00:05:48.079 --> 00:05:56.560 they need to do to achieve or regain wellness, they will look at us 62 00:05:56.600 --> 00:05:59.720 with a straight face and say, well, okay, thank you, doctor 63 00:05:59.720 --> 00:06:02.920 Gli, But am I going to get a prescription for this at the end 64 00:06:02.920 --> 00:06:09.680 of the day. And we look at them and say, not really, 65 00:06:10.639 --> 00:06:17.879 unless I give you a prescription for ocra twice daily or a zucchini every evening. 66 00:06:19.199 --> 00:06:26.319 Now, the dependence on medicine, they all of you, all of 67 00:06:26.439 --> 00:06:33.480 us together, we have to understand the value of self determination. You have 68 00:06:33.680 --> 00:06:39.480 the ability to take control of your health and wellness. Relying on others, 69 00:06:39.920 --> 00:06:46.160 relying on the medical system. Yes, we need surgeries and medications and intravenous 70 00:06:46.199 --> 00:06:51.319 and chemot there, Yes we do. Eighty percent of it is through lifestyle. 71 00:06:53.199 --> 00:06:56.519 What about the food you eat? Are you exercising, are you getting 72 00:06:56.560 --> 00:06:59.879 the right amount of sleep? Are you paying attention to your mental health? 73 00:07:00.319 --> 00:07:04.800 What about healthy relationships? A pill is not going to fix that? And 74 00:07:05.000 --> 00:07:11.560 are you putting in the time to learn about how your body works? Is 75 00:07:11.600 --> 00:07:16.240 what we talk about here versus the mentality of oh the heck with eating better, 76 00:07:16.399 --> 00:07:20.720 exercising, getting more sleep, paying attention to my mental health, improving 77 00:07:20.800 --> 00:07:26.480 upon my relationships with either your significant other, your children, your boss, 78 00:07:26.519 --> 00:07:31.959 your neighbor, or your dog. They shoot to a pill and that is 79 00:07:32.360 --> 00:07:36.560 a problem. That is the pill mentality at its best. All right, 80 00:07:36.639 --> 00:07:43.959 everybody, Doctor Joe Glati is our website. Go check it all out. 81 00:07:44.920 --> 00:07:49.120 David Goldberg good friend of mine, probably one of the smartest people I know 82 00:07:49.480 --> 00:07:54.879 is on hold. We'll be getting to him in a moment. And the 83 00:07:54.920 --> 00:07:59.480 big question would life be better if you worked less? I don't know. 84 00:08:00.040 --> 00:08:03.120 Stay tuned, we'll right back. Thanks very much for tuning in on this 85 00:08:03.199 --> 00:08:09.720 Sunday evening. We are here raising your health IQ. That's right, there 86 00:08:09.879 --> 00:08:15.519 is a health IQ, but we could only do it one listener at a 87 00:08:15.600 --> 00:08:20.839 time every Sunday. Don't forget Go to doctor Joe glati dot com that is 88 00:08:22.000 --> 00:08:30.000 me and send me a message. Sign up for all of our social media 89 00:08:30.199 --> 00:08:35.279 links there and be part of the community that we're trying to build here. 90 00:08:35.000 --> 00:08:41.080 All right, Well, it's really exciting. On the phone. David Goldberg 91 00:08:41.399 --> 00:08:48.759 a high school buddy of mine. He is an author, guest author, 92 00:08:48.879 --> 00:08:52.080 writer, I should say, advisor, strategic marketers, brand amplifier, thought 93 00:08:52.159 --> 00:08:56.799 leader. David, I've been on the radio twenty one years. I can't 94 00:08:56.799 --> 00:09:00.600 believe this is the first time we've had you on so well, I'm very 95 00:09:00.639 --> 00:09:03.679 happy to be here. My wife said, I said, Joe, I'm 96 00:09:03.720 --> 00:09:07.080 going to go on with Joe tonight. She said, does he know how 97 00:09:07.120 --> 00:09:11.000 you ignore your health? You better be honest with him? So here I 98 00:09:11.039 --> 00:09:13.840 am and everything's on the table. That's it. Well, you know what 99 00:09:13.960 --> 00:09:22.840 I tell people every day that the wake up call is far better than neglecting 100 00:09:22.840 --> 00:09:28.240 it and having all go to hell in a handbasket. So I look, 101 00:09:28.399 --> 00:09:31.919 everybody out there has a little bit of you, a little bit of me. 102 00:09:33.039 --> 00:09:37.480 We've all got our story to share. So nobody is perfect out there, 103 00:09:37.480 --> 00:09:43.039 and we are not trying to talk down to anybody. So we all 104 00:09:43.159 --> 00:09:48.480 have our own little little skeletons in the closet with regard to our health. 105 00:09:48.919 --> 00:09:54.279 Well, you know, it really is the truth. So I you know, 106 00:09:54.360 --> 00:09:58.399 the first thing I'd like to ask you, and really, and this 107 00:09:58.480 --> 00:10:03.559 is really more of just a reset. Where are you? Know? Where 108 00:10:03.559 --> 00:10:07.919 are you at now in your life, in your general approach and views on 109 00:10:09.000 --> 00:10:11.960 health? Tell us where David Goldberg sits? Yeah, you know, the 110 00:10:13.399 --> 00:10:20.200 simple answer is a work in progress. But but certainly I'm maturing work in 111 00:10:20.279 --> 00:10:24.279 progress, and I think I'm finally getting it. Joe, And I'm sixty 112 00:10:24.320 --> 00:10:28.200 four years old, and I'm out of place where I spent the lion's share 113 00:10:28.200 --> 00:10:37.000 of my career and traditional corporate roles, and for the past fourteen years have 114 00:10:37.159 --> 00:10:43.960 been in non traditional much more entrepreneurial roles also coincides about the time of my 115 00:10:45.000 --> 00:10:52.720 second marriage. And my wife is a much better caretaker of herself and health 116 00:10:52.759 --> 00:10:56.879 aware than I am. She grew up with nutrition being an important thing. 117 00:10:56.919 --> 00:11:01.480 She grew up a lot like you did. That's right, and so it 118 00:11:01.519 --> 00:11:07.399 has awakened me. I'll actually tell you that I have spent the last six 119 00:11:07.440 --> 00:11:11.399 weeks going back to a lot of the appointments I should have done during the 120 00:11:11.399 --> 00:11:15.759 pandemic but didn't for a lot of reasons. And um, and I will 121 00:11:15.799 --> 00:11:18.519 say so in general, in terms of my health, I'm fortunate, but 122 00:11:18.559 --> 00:11:24.000 I'm much more aware. You know, you go to you see your a 123 00:11:24.120 --> 00:11:28.120 one sea creeping up. You see um, your your lower back hurting. 124 00:11:28.559 --> 00:11:35.600 You see some some challenges, um, you know, breathing after less exercises 125 00:11:35.639 --> 00:11:37.559 than it used to be. Um. And all of a sudden you say, 126 00:11:37.600 --> 00:11:41.799 you know those the doctors are right. Those three things are all related. 127 00:11:41.799 --> 00:11:45.440 And I need to lose fifteen pounds um, and that has to do 128 00:11:45.519 --> 00:11:48.039 with how I eat and how I live. So yeah, short answer, 129 00:11:48.080 --> 00:11:50.879 Joe's I'm I'm maturing. Yeah, And I think you hit along the head. 130 00:11:50.960 --> 00:11:56.039 It is the awareness, because what shocks me. And again, I 131 00:11:56.080 --> 00:12:01.559 cannot crawl into the head of every patient of mine or anybody that I talked 132 00:12:01.600 --> 00:12:07.840 to. They literally limp around with symptoms and it could be something as minor 133 00:12:07.000 --> 00:12:13.000 as a headache, blurred vision, let alone the more serious things of blood 134 00:12:13.000 --> 00:12:16.960 in their stool, difficulty urinating, and you know, painful backs and things 135 00:12:16.000 --> 00:12:22.080 like that. And it's at awareness to say this is not right, let 136 00:12:22.120 --> 00:12:26.360 me get help now, rather than waiting three, four or five years. 137 00:12:26.960 --> 00:12:30.879 Yeah, it's it's really hard though. It's actually double edged. I would 138 00:12:30.919 --> 00:12:35.799 suggest the you know there there's part of the way that that some of us 139 00:12:35.799 --> 00:12:39.360 are wired that say I'm going to think about health when health isn't there. 140 00:12:39.480 --> 00:12:43.519 It's when when the light comes on, you know, um, there's something 141 00:12:43.600 --> 00:12:48.600 wrong with me. I better go to the doctor. So that that's that's 142 00:12:48.679 --> 00:12:52.360 part one, and then part two is maybe I'll take the doctor's advice and 143 00:12:52.440 --> 00:12:56.279 maybe I won't. Right, So I say, you know, going from 144 00:12:56.519 --> 00:13:01.120 if you're wired that way, going all the way back to awareness and to 145 00:13:01.399 --> 00:13:05.600 preventative care, it's a pretty big step. But you know what, we 146 00:13:05.639 --> 00:13:09.000 make a lot of big steps in our lives as WEMA tour right right now, 147 00:13:09.039 --> 00:13:13.840 you mentioned your wife. What about your kids? Where where do you 148 00:13:13.879 --> 00:13:18.399 think they are? They're they're about the same age as my children are, 149 00:13:18.919 --> 00:13:24.799 and they're all bulletproof in a sense. Yeah, you know what, I'm 150 00:13:24.919 --> 00:13:28.960 I'm fortunate that way. I've a certainly bulletproof as a kid. My kids 151 00:13:28.000 --> 00:13:33.559 are are very health aware. My older daughter is you know, she's terrific. 152 00:13:33.639 --> 00:13:37.720 She does a lot of research. She has some autoimmune issues that complicates 153 00:13:37.720 --> 00:13:43.720 some things for her, and so and so she's very much to preventive care. 154 00:13:43.159 --> 00:13:48.960 And my younger just you know, finished just got her degree and health 155 00:13:48.960 --> 00:13:54.279 sciences. She was on a premed track and she works for a healthcare company 156 00:13:54.320 --> 00:13:58.600 at the moment. So so they are that they are good for themselves and 157 00:13:58.639 --> 00:14:01.720 they are very good for me. I'm around it with three family members whom 158 00:14:01.000 --> 00:14:05.159 who worry more about my health than I ever did. Yeah, but I 159 00:14:05.159 --> 00:14:07.279 think they're all pretty good about their own. Yeah, No, that's good. 160 00:14:07.480 --> 00:14:11.480 So when you know, I look back to say, or you know, 161 00:14:11.559 --> 00:14:13.200 you look at a picture and you say, what you looked like when 162 00:14:13.240 --> 00:14:16.600 you were thirty or forty or fifty, and we look, we say, 163 00:14:16.679 --> 00:14:20.360 yeah, a little bit more hair, we were a little leaner, and 164 00:14:20.399 --> 00:14:24.919 we just looked a little bit younger. And I don't think we were necessarily 165 00:14:24.080 --> 00:14:30.080 thinking about your health. But with those long hours that you were putting in 166 00:14:30.120 --> 00:14:35.240 with corporate America and all of the sort of the rat race that we all 167 00:14:35.279 --> 00:14:39.519 fall into, did you give your health any thought? Did you did you 168 00:14:39.559 --> 00:14:43.960 think when you clocked in the eightieth hour for the week that you said, 169 00:14:43.000 --> 00:14:48.840 shit, i've had a slowdown. Never, I'm all honestly, I mean, 170 00:14:48.879 --> 00:14:50.639 I'd like to say that I did that, but I but I never 171 00:14:50.720 --> 00:14:54.480 did that. And I'll even tell you that there was there was sort of 172 00:14:54.519 --> 00:15:03.720 a an unspoken or a rarely spoken awareness that you might speak about your team. 173 00:15:03.759 --> 00:15:07.120 So you're working on a big event, which which is going to necessitate 174 00:15:07.639 --> 00:15:13.519 nights and weekends, um and and all sorts of ungodly hours for an extended 175 00:15:13.639 --> 00:15:18.000 period. It's one thing to do that occasionally, but maybe you're building up 176 00:15:18.039 --> 00:15:20.759 to something where you're doing that for two, three, four months, and 177 00:15:20.759 --> 00:15:24.320 and and there's a quietly spoken reality that I'm going to get sick after this. 178 00:15:24.519 --> 00:15:28.519 Once the once I stopped running on adrenaline, uh, once I you 179 00:15:28.559 --> 00:15:33.879 know, allow my shoulders to slump, I'm going to get sick. And 180 00:15:35.399 --> 00:15:39.200 you know, getting sick at thirty and thirty five is not as not the 181 00:15:39.240 --> 00:15:43.919 same as it is now. But the but but what we were aware of 182 00:15:43.960 --> 00:15:48.279 the downside. But I don't think anybody. Um, first of all, 183 00:15:48.320 --> 00:15:50.879 a lot of the information wasn't out there. Let's be honest, there's no 184 00:15:50.960 --> 00:15:54.600 internet. There's nobody was saying make sure you hydrate because it's gonna be a 185 00:15:54.639 --> 00:15:56.720 hard week and you're not going to get a lot of sleep. Right. 186 00:15:58.000 --> 00:16:00.320 Um, nobody was saying, you know, be care full about eating this 187 00:16:00.440 --> 00:16:03.960 and not eating map during these periods. Right. So, so a lot 188 00:16:03.960 --> 00:16:07.759 of it does come to awareness. But but I'd be lying if I said 189 00:16:07.799 --> 00:16:12.279 it was something that was you know, if I had to make a list 190 00:16:12.320 --> 00:16:15.600 of where that fell, it would be a very long list before I got 191 00:16:15.600 --> 00:16:19.960 to my own health. Yeah. Now, how about people you worked with, 192 00:16:21.000 --> 00:16:23.600 either you know, people that you went to school with, went to 193 00:16:23.639 --> 00:16:30.039 college with, or those early days that you worked in that rat race corporate 194 00:16:30.240 --> 00:16:33.679 life which really takes no prisoners. I mean, it will chew you up 195 00:16:33.720 --> 00:16:37.720 and spit you out and say, if you're sick can't do the job, 196 00:16:37.080 --> 00:16:42.399 the next guy will take it. But does anybody come to mind that maybe 197 00:16:42.480 --> 00:16:48.720 back into thirties and forties, there was one person and we have one minute 198 00:16:48.759 --> 00:16:51.919 here, David, before the break. Was it one person that stood out 199 00:16:51.960 --> 00:16:55.639 to say, this guy got it when we were thirty or forty years old. 200 00:16:56.320 --> 00:16:57.600 Yeah, I just want to make sure by you say thirties and forties, 201 00:16:57.600 --> 00:17:02.279 you know, I mean nineteen thirties and four right, But yes, 202 00:17:02.600 --> 00:17:07.720 there there were and and to me, Joe there that there's three people who 203 00:17:07.799 --> 00:17:11.759 jump right to my head. And but they started either being you know, 204 00:17:11.880 --> 00:17:17.359 growing up in a place where nutrition was stressed, or being children of medical 205 00:17:17.400 --> 00:17:19.240 people. Right, it was not common. It was when you think of 206 00:17:19.279 --> 00:17:25.559 how much time we spend talking about ailments today versus then, I am very 207 00:17:25.799 --> 00:17:29.759 you would have been looked at cross eyed if you said, if you started 208 00:17:29.799 --> 00:17:33.480 talking about it was one thing if it was a little bit, a little 209 00:17:33.519 --> 00:17:37.079 bit Butch and I, it's about your workout right and getting strong and fit. 210 00:17:37.559 --> 00:17:40.759 But it was another thing if it was about wondering if you were a 211 00:17:40.799 --> 00:17:42.880 nimic. Yeah, no, exactly, No, I think I think you're 212 00:17:42.920 --> 00:17:45.880 right. All right, David, we're gonna take a break. We're going 213 00:17:45.920 --> 00:17:49.440 to put you on hold. We're talking with David Goldberg coming in from Long 214 00:17:49.480 --> 00:17:53.240 Island, New York. After the break, we're going to get to the 215 00:17:53.279 --> 00:17:59.720 Wall Street Journal article which poses the question would life be better if you worked 216 00:17:59.799 --> 00:18:03.079 less? We're gonna take the health and wellness spin on it. I'm doctor 217 00:18:03.160 --> 00:18:08.319 Joe Glotti. Stay tuned, we will right back. Welcome back, everybody, 218 00:18:10.640 --> 00:18:18.440 a marvelous Sunday. The weather here in Houston has been delightful. If 219 00:18:18.480 --> 00:18:23.359 I could put a pause on the weather for us of the year, this 220 00:18:23.440 --> 00:18:27.519 is this is what I would want. But again, we are here every 221 00:18:27.559 --> 00:18:36.400 Sunday evening making you all better consumers of healthcare. And we do that by 222 00:18:36.440 --> 00:18:41.200 having on the air with me people like David Goldberg. David, welcome back, 223 00:18:41.279 --> 00:18:45.799 Thanks for sticking around with us. A little music trivia, because you're 224 00:18:45.799 --> 00:18:52.400 a music guy. What movie was that from? Ah, you know, 225 00:18:52.519 --> 00:18:55.640 I am. The funny thing is, I was asking myself that question as 226 00:18:55.640 --> 00:18:59.839 you were, as I was listening. Yet great music before that. I 227 00:19:00.680 --> 00:19:03.319 do not know that from I think it's very personally, Joe. I'm a 228 00:19:03.559 --> 00:19:07.480 I consider myself a trivia fish. And yeah, what was it? Uh? 229 00:19:07.559 --> 00:19:11.079 It was m Oh, what was the guy's name? I'm drawn a 230 00:19:11.160 --> 00:19:15.440 blank here, I knew it. I knew it. Uh, I'll get 231 00:19:15.440 --> 00:19:18.440 it before the end of the show. Okay, yeah, it was well 232 00:19:18.559 --> 00:19:23.160 Quincy Jones. Actually that was his album from about nineteen sixty five. It 233 00:19:23.200 --> 00:19:27.960 was the Mike Myers movie. It was the Halloween No no, no, 234 00:19:29.079 --> 00:19:33.400 like not The The Spy That Shagged Me and things those movies. What was 235 00:19:33.440 --> 00:19:38.079 that? Oh? Okay, Austin Power, Austin Powers, Austin Powers. 236 00:19:38.559 --> 00:19:45.880 And the reason he chose that song to be such a such a big role 237 00:19:45.920 --> 00:19:51.000 in the movie was because he's Canadian. In Canada, there was it was 238 00:19:51.079 --> 00:19:53.680 either the nightly news or there was sort of a variety show, sort of 239 00:19:53.720 --> 00:20:00.759 the Johnny Carson of Canada. That was this theme song that went Jones song. 240 00:20:00.839 --> 00:20:02.759 So anyway, that's where it. Kid, it's perfect. Hey, 241 00:20:02.839 --> 00:20:07.880 you know, look we'll learn about heart disease and cancer and music and music. 242 00:20:07.240 --> 00:20:11.880 All right, So, David, the article I want to chat about 243 00:20:11.920 --> 00:20:15.799 was in the Wall Street Journal and it's posted on the Facebook account at doctor 244 00:20:15.880 --> 00:20:19.920 Joe Gilatti. Would Life be Better if You worked less? Now? It's 245 00:20:19.920 --> 00:20:25.440 an article basically about life balance and making sure you could pick up your kids 246 00:20:25.480 --> 00:20:29.240 and take them to school and be a better parent, be a better husband, 247 00:20:29.279 --> 00:20:33.240 significant other I look at it on the health twist here. Now, 248 00:20:33.319 --> 00:20:38.160 let me just start off as a fellow baby boomer and many of our listeners 249 00:20:38.240 --> 00:20:48.000 or baby boomers, is this counterintuitive to the hardwiring that we were trained with 250 00:20:48.599 --> 00:20:51.759 of work, work, work, work, work, don't take any time 251 00:20:51.799 --> 00:20:55.279 off. What do you think? Yes, it is. I wouldn't call 252 00:20:55.319 --> 00:20:59.880 it hard wiring, but it's certainly counterintuitive to the way we were raised, 253 00:21:00.920 --> 00:21:03.359 which was, you know, put your head down, do a good job. 254 00:21:03.799 --> 00:21:07.359 More is better, Harder is better, right, and all those things. 255 00:21:07.519 --> 00:21:14.920 And you know you had as we became leaders in our fields, Joe, 256 00:21:14.960 --> 00:21:18.559 and you start to manage more people, you know, you work with 257 00:21:18.599 --> 00:21:23.599 a younger group who would talk about validation, who would talk about being appreciated, 258 00:21:23.720 --> 00:21:29.119 and and if your dad was like mine, you know, appreciation came 259 00:21:29.160 --> 00:21:33.200 on Friday in an envelope, right, And that's that's the way we were 260 00:21:33.279 --> 00:21:37.119 raised. So and and the way you're raised as a I have a friend 261 00:21:37.160 --> 00:21:41.400 who says, the way things have always been done is a cruel mistress. 262 00:21:41.880 --> 00:21:44.720 If you're raised a certain way, it's hard to break out of that. 263 00:21:44.960 --> 00:21:49.279 Yeah, it really is. And it seems like for now and certainly since 264 00:21:49.400 --> 00:21:56.160 COVID. So much has happened since the pandemic that you almost don't recognize the 265 00:21:56.200 --> 00:22:00.559 way life was, you know, four or five years ago. But there's 266 00:22:00.559 --> 00:22:06.160 a different reward system in place now. Where there is a premium on your 267 00:22:06.200 --> 00:22:12.039 personal time, there is a premium on doing these other things now. As 268 00:22:12.039 --> 00:22:17.960 I said earlier, I'm not here. This is not a social science program 269 00:22:18.000 --> 00:22:22.519 in the traditional sense, but I look at the health and wellness of it. 270 00:22:22.160 --> 00:22:27.119 Do you think when people write about, hey, would life be better 271 00:22:27.160 --> 00:22:33.720 if we didn't work as long? Are they thinking about health and wellness versus 272 00:22:33.920 --> 00:22:37.599 prosperity? And are you going to have that that summer house on the coast, 273 00:22:37.720 --> 00:22:41.000 or the boat or the whatever, the big car? What do you 274 00:22:41.039 --> 00:22:48.079 what do you think? I think there's certainly thinking about wellness maybe, if 275 00:22:48.079 --> 00:22:52.519 not health, they're certainly thinking about wellness. I think to a certain extent, 276 00:22:52.599 --> 00:22:56.000 Joe, that's thinking about mental health, right, And I think it's 277 00:22:56.880 --> 00:23:03.240 it's a great conversation to be having. You know, I answered your question. 278 00:23:03.400 --> 00:23:07.119 Is it is that statement counterintuitive of that question? Right? And I 279 00:23:07.119 --> 00:23:10.279 think it is. But I also think the answer to that question is yes, 280 00:23:11.440 --> 00:23:15.039 you know, obviously with a million caveats. If we could all find 281 00:23:15.039 --> 00:23:19.880 places to to to to work less and retain other things that are important to 282 00:23:19.960 --> 00:23:22.680 us, it would, Yes, our lives would be better. Yeah, 283 00:23:23.839 --> 00:23:27.839 you talked about Yeah. Now going back, we're going to go to David 284 00:23:27.880 --> 00:23:37.079 Goldberg Version one point, Corporate wonk versus David Goldberg Version two point. Oh 285 00:23:37.200 --> 00:23:45.359 Um, did you think of work life balance in the true sense of that? 286 00:23:45.200 --> 00:23:51.039 And or in your health assessment you sort of alluded to that already that. 287 00:23:51.480 --> 00:23:53.279 Yeah, not that you did in my health assessment. Not my health 288 00:23:53.279 --> 00:23:57.480 assessment, Joe. But I think I think I was pretty typical in the 289 00:23:57.559 --> 00:24:04.200 sense that our generation we got. You know, you get into the workforce 290 00:24:04.240 --> 00:24:11.119 out of college, and wherever you are, whether it's a whether you're entrepreneurial, 291 00:24:11.240 --> 00:24:15.839 whether whether you're working you know, a retail or a trade or especially 292 00:24:15.880 --> 00:24:22.039 if you're in the corporate world, you it's hard to separate the things that 293 00:24:22.119 --> 00:24:26.799 comprise balance. And what I mean by that is, you know, the 294 00:24:26.960 --> 00:24:32.599 success I'm having by the measures my company have put on me will help me 295 00:24:33.160 --> 00:24:36.400 achieve that balance. It will make my family happier, It will help me 296 00:24:36.440 --> 00:24:40.119 live where I want to live, It will help me afford the things that 297 00:24:40.200 --> 00:24:45.599 make me happy outside of work. And I think that that's typically very true 298 00:24:47.240 --> 00:24:52.160 and very valid to a point. You know, you can justify the time 299 00:24:52.200 --> 00:24:56.160 you're spending away from your family when I say you, I'm talking about David. 300 00:24:56.240 --> 00:25:00.680 One point out, I can justify the time I'm spending away from my 301 00:25:00.799 --> 00:25:06.880 family as a young executive because it's for my family. Right Um. I 302 00:25:06.880 --> 00:25:12.039 think there's a time where that stops being true, or where the the the 303 00:25:12.240 --> 00:25:17.599 returns begin to menace on that being true. And I don't think very many 304 00:25:17.640 --> 00:25:22.200 of us recognize that time in real time. Now you're sort of you're now 305 00:25:22.240 --> 00:25:26.079 the hard wiring comes in right now, you're just working off. And you 306 00:25:26.119 --> 00:25:30.000 know how many of us were proud to say I work sixty hours a week, 307 00:25:30.000 --> 00:25:32.920 eighty hours a week, when we maybe should have been ashamed to say 308 00:25:32.960 --> 00:25:36.480 it. Oh now, now I think if you brag about that, stick 309 00:25:37.039 --> 00:25:40.920 put a little button on your lapel and say I'm part of the eighty hour 310 00:25:41.039 --> 00:25:45.359 work week, you'd be You'd be put down in public, it'd be publicly 311 00:25:45.480 --> 00:25:48.079 shamed. But again, we're going to take a break right now. Final 312 00:25:48.119 --> 00:25:52.799 segment coming up, David, I really want to get into where we go 313 00:25:52.960 --> 00:26:00.440 from here and are these reductions are we taking full advantage of it from a 314 00:26:00.440 --> 00:26:03.799 health and wellness standpoint. We're going to be back with David Goldberg in just 315 00:26:04.000 --> 00:26:08.880 a moment. Stick with us, Doctor Joe Glati dot com. Sorry for 316 00:26:08.920 --> 00:26:14.039 a newsletter, get a little message from us on Saturday mornings. Stay tuned, 317 00:26:14.039 --> 00:26:18.240 we'll right back. Welcome back, everybody. There's no doubt what group 318 00:26:18.319 --> 00:26:23.240 this is. David and I were stumbling as far as our prior segment. 319 00:26:26.200 --> 00:26:32.160 It is the David you know this song in your sleep? Yeah? Roll. 320 00:26:32.400 --> 00:26:36.039 So that's about our high school time problem. It really is. And 321 00:26:36.279 --> 00:26:41.599 you know I tell people when I talk about you and your successes, I 322 00:26:41.599 --> 00:26:44.799 said, look, I really got to know David, and I'm stealing your 323 00:26:45.400 --> 00:26:48.480 line to tell you the truth. We got to know each other sitting at 324 00:26:48.519 --> 00:26:52.440 the end of the bench during basketball, and I guess the two of us 325 00:26:52.480 --> 00:26:56.079 are of figured out what were we going to do in life, realizing we 326 00:26:56.079 --> 00:26:59.440 were never going to make it to the NBA, so plenty plenty of time 327 00:26:59.480 --> 00:27:02.559 to talk on fortunately, that's right, that's right. You know. I 328 00:27:02.599 --> 00:27:07.599 did reach out to coach McKillop to tell him if he wanted to tune in 329 00:27:07.680 --> 00:27:11.359 but he was tied up. But I think I'll send him a copy of 330 00:27:11.359 --> 00:27:18.119 this and say, two of your students have done okay, tonight was a 331 00:27:18.200 --> 00:27:22.480 guy. Yes, absolutely well. The article that we are talking about with 332 00:27:23.720 --> 00:27:29.079 David Goldberg to summarize it, and this is the way I would look at 333 00:27:29.119 --> 00:27:32.680 it. This is an article that basically says, for the people that are 334 00:27:32.720 --> 00:27:37.640 working sixty eighty hours a week, even forty hours a week, there are 335 00:27:37.680 --> 00:27:42.480 benefits to cutting back, but you have to figure out how you could do 336 00:27:42.519 --> 00:27:47.720 it in your own situation in a sense, and like you said, there's 337 00:27:47.759 --> 00:27:52.519 a million caveats to doing this, and that the stories are similar. More 338 00:27:52.559 --> 00:27:56.519 time with their family, more time with themselves, more time with their children, 339 00:27:56.960 --> 00:28:02.799 more time to explore these secondary type things we like to do now. 340 00:28:03.039 --> 00:28:07.079 I have said from the beginning this is health and wellness and having a better 341 00:28:08.000 --> 00:28:12.680 life. But the sad negative part of all this just in general, this 342 00:28:12.759 --> 00:28:18.640 is at thirty thousand feet. Obesity is up, diabetes and fatty liver up, 343 00:28:18.839 --> 00:28:22.160 alcohol and drug abuse up, mental health down, suicide up. This 344 00:28:22.400 --> 00:28:27.079 forty of the young, that sense of I'm just not happy up. Life 345 00:28:27.079 --> 00:28:33.480 expectancy is down. Is this going to be trying to turn the titanic by 346 00:28:33.680 --> 00:28:41.599 making these changes, or are these negative health statistics we see the nitis to 347 00:28:41.799 --> 00:28:48.559 really take stock in our lives. I think, Joe and I can't answer 348 00:28:48.599 --> 00:28:52.559 this with the expertise that you can from a health standpoint. From a business 349 00:28:52.599 --> 00:28:55.960 standpoint, I don't think these are great challenges. And I'll be a little 350 00:28:55.960 --> 00:28:59.640 contrary in saying that, I think we know what we need to do here. 351 00:29:00.039 --> 00:29:04.160 This is a matter of of of changing expectations at the corporate level. 352 00:29:04.160 --> 00:29:08.759 And you're already seeing that in the article talked about that, and it's and 353 00:29:08.839 --> 00:29:15.799 it's a matter of of of of adapting a different culture and what work means 354 00:29:15.079 --> 00:29:18.519 a lot of us. You know, you you alluded Joe into my um, 355 00:29:18.640 --> 00:29:22.119 you know, the second phase of my life, which is far more 356 00:29:22.240 --> 00:29:29.079 entrepreneurial and and far more under my under my own control. UM And I 357 00:29:29.119 --> 00:29:32.279 always tell people because I think those all those things you listed, Joe, 358 00:29:32.400 --> 00:29:38.279 those negative health factors, I would suggest that you know, stress is the 359 00:29:38.319 --> 00:29:42.079 dominant or at least a major factor in every one of them. Um And 360 00:29:42.119 --> 00:29:45.799 I and I always say to people the difference between my two point, oh 361 00:29:47.359 --> 00:29:51.519 and my one point I said, I may work as many hours at the 362 00:29:51.640 --> 00:29:53.720 end of the day in my second phase as I did in my first, 363 00:29:55.119 --> 00:29:59.319 and I may stress as much, but it's selective stress. Right. I 364 00:29:59.599 --> 00:30:04.440 don't stress about Sarbanes Oxley compliance. I don't stress about um the you know, 365 00:30:04.480 --> 00:30:10.200 a third quarter performance. I don't stress about um you know, employee 366 00:30:10.240 --> 00:30:15.200 reviews and understanding they affect other people's lives. I stress about my own family. 367 00:30:15.599 --> 00:30:21.039 I stress about you know, a small circle of people. I stress 368 00:30:21.119 --> 00:30:25.720 about excellence and and doing things that and all those things, all those things 369 00:30:25.759 --> 00:30:30.799 are are you know, positive in terms of health outcomes as I'd see it. 370 00:30:30.160 --> 00:30:37.920 I worry Joe Moore from that article about you know, the the practical 371 00:30:37.960 --> 00:30:41.240 ability for a lot of people. Are we Are we being elitist in a 372 00:30:41.319 --> 00:30:45.079 sense? You know? Yeah, that article was about two doctors. I 373 00:30:45.200 --> 00:30:48.759 decided to work less and ran off to Grease to play for part of the 374 00:30:48.839 --> 00:30:52.440 year, right. You know, if you're a union bricklayer, that's not 375 00:30:52.480 --> 00:30:57.079 as easy rum and it also ignores from a you know, I think there's 376 00:30:57.119 --> 00:31:02.440 some very practical things from a health standpoint, one of which is insurance. 377 00:31:02.640 --> 00:31:06.400 Right, Um, you know, it's very hard. A lot of corporations 378 00:31:06.400 --> 00:31:11.240 have gotten good about wellness and they provide insurance that that are often needed. 379 00:31:11.279 --> 00:31:15.880 So there is a unity yang there that can be had to balance. Yeah. 380 00:31:15.920 --> 00:31:18.319 Sure, you say, Look, okay, I work a solid, 381 00:31:18.680 --> 00:31:22.160 legitimate forty hours. I'm going to cut that to thirty. You may lose 382 00:31:22.200 --> 00:31:26.119 your healthcare. Like you said that, that doesn't make any sense. Yeah, 383 00:31:26.279 --> 00:31:30.640 I would. I would think at the corporate level, at the Exxon 384 00:31:30.920 --> 00:31:36.160 Mobile level, or at the level of the hospitals that I'm affiliated with, 385 00:31:36.599 --> 00:31:42.480 if we were to cut out the meetings and the discussions. Laugh, let's 386 00:31:42.519 --> 00:31:47.720 have a meeting to plan the next meeting. Right there, You're going to 387 00:31:47.799 --> 00:31:51.960 cut ten hours out of the week, and you're not First of all, 388 00:31:51.960 --> 00:31:53.839 you're not even dealing with what we deal within New York, which is commutes 389 00:31:53.880 --> 00:31:57.079 on top of that. But but I would look at my weekly calendar and 390 00:31:57.160 --> 00:32:04.160 my last corporate gig and and basically there was no time between meetings, between 391 00:32:04.200 --> 00:32:08.400 presentations. Uh, there was no time to do the work, so to 392 00:32:08.440 --> 00:32:14.440 speak. So that got done after hours, and there's no doubt about that. 393 00:32:14.559 --> 00:32:16.799 I'd also suggest here, Joe, there there is a this is a 394 00:32:16.880 --> 00:32:22.440 phase reality. Uh, you know in your I finished a book recently writing 395 00:32:22.480 --> 00:32:28.079 a book for a guy who's an HR superstar, and he's he talks about 396 00:32:28.119 --> 00:32:32.799 the phases of your career when you're in your early years in corporate life. 397 00:32:34.160 --> 00:32:37.279 He compares it to choosing a major. So there's a lot of learning. 398 00:32:37.319 --> 00:32:54.000 There's a lot. Lou we lost Dave. Sure, Okay, Dave, 399 00:32:54.160 --> 00:32:58.960 in the middle of a sentence, dropped off, this is live radio. 400 00:32:59.039 --> 00:33:02.839 What can I tell you? We're here? You know. The point is, 401 00:33:04.160 --> 00:33:08.960 I think that we do want to try to cut back the stress, 402 00:33:09.440 --> 00:33:15.799 and the stress may be related to the hours of work, you know, 403 00:33:15.880 --> 00:33:23.000 working forty fifty hours. Dave mentioned something about the commute, the stress at 404 00:33:23.039 --> 00:33:30.960 work. It does take away from our health and it is difficult for a 405 00:33:30.960 --> 00:33:35.400 lot of people to have that luxury to go into their boss and tell them 406 00:33:35.400 --> 00:33:40.119 that they want to cut back their hours. There's going to be a price 407 00:33:40.200 --> 00:33:45.559 in a sense for these changes that you make. Now. The article, 408 00:33:45.680 --> 00:33:51.440 as we've been talking about, it's posted on the Facebook page. If you 409 00:33:51.480 --> 00:33:54.480 go to the website doctor Joeglati dot com, the Facebook link is there, 410 00:33:54.799 --> 00:33:59.759 you could read the full article. And Dave is right. They do talk 411 00:33:59.799 --> 00:34:06.039 about a neurosurgeon. All right, you'd have to think that this neurosurgeon is 412 00:34:06.079 --> 00:34:13.400 pretty high on the pyramid of financial success and authority and calling the shots versus 413 00:34:13.440 --> 00:34:17.000 that line bricklayer, the line worker at the assembly plant, the guy that 414 00:34:17.119 --> 00:34:25.719 drives the truck cross country. But it is something to think about, and 415 00:34:27.960 --> 00:34:31.840 we look at our own staff and our practice that we want them to work 416 00:34:31.880 --> 00:34:37.519 hard, but we strive all the time to have that life work balance. 417 00:34:37.599 --> 00:34:44.039 We try to have people work remotely. So by working remotely, you are 418 00:34:44.119 --> 00:34:51.880 saving anywhere from thirty to ninety minutes a day driving. We're hoping that this 419 00:34:52.000 --> 00:34:55.039 can, in a sense, parlay into better health, so that maybe they 420 00:34:55.079 --> 00:35:00.199 can cook a meal at home, they could go shopping, they can spend 421 00:35:00.239 --> 00:35:06.239 more time with their kids, they could exercise or just decompress at the end 422 00:35:06.280 --> 00:35:09.280 of the day. Now, Dave, are we able to get David back 423 00:35:09.320 --> 00:35:16.400 on the line. You couldn't. My god, sun sun spots have knocked 424 00:35:16.639 --> 00:35:22.880 David Goldberg off. All right, Well that is that is it. Well 425 00:35:22.920 --> 00:35:28.000 we'll have to get David back to finish it next week maybe, But what 426 00:35:28.079 --> 00:35:31.880 I would say for everybody lessons of today. We talked a little bit about 427 00:35:31.960 --> 00:35:39.239 the pill mentality. Keep in mind that you have so much control over your 428 00:35:39.280 --> 00:35:45.280 health and wellness. Do not relinquish that. You can make changes in what 429 00:35:45.320 --> 00:35:47.800 you eat. We talk about eating all the time. The name of the 430 00:35:47.800 --> 00:35:52.679 book I wrote is eating Yourself Sick, and so clearly I have a bias 431 00:35:52.760 --> 00:36:00.559 towards nutrition and food and wellness and the exercise your sleep. Mental health is 432 00:36:00.760 --> 00:36:07.039 key. You should all be thinking tonight and tomorrow, how is my mental 433 00:36:07.079 --> 00:36:13.039 health? How are the relationships that I am in? And we have all 434 00:36:13.119 --> 00:36:17.199 been in relationships or people in our family, people we work with, that 435 00:36:17.440 --> 00:36:23.360 these are toxic relationships that negatively impact our health. But it's not always going 436 00:36:23.480 --> 00:36:29.079 to come down to a pill. I'm hopeful that the discussion of trying to 437 00:36:29.360 --> 00:36:36.480 work less, we could use that time and plow it into better wellness. 438 00:36:36.679 --> 00:36:39.280 That is it? All right, that's it for tonight. I'm doctor Joe 439 00:36:39.320 --> 00:36:44.679 Glotti. You've been listening to your health First. Don't forget doctor Joe Glotti 440 00:36:44.760 --> 00:36:47.159 dot com is our website. I want to hear from all of you next 441 00:36:47.159 --> 00:36:52.159 Sunday night at seven. We will be right back here. Take care. 442 00:36:52.920 --> 00:36:58.119 You've been listening to your health First with doctor Joe Glotti. Need more information 443 00:36:58.159 --> 00:37:00.840 on this program or the content of this program, Pody Your heel First dot com