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Jams they have there on the ball
on two Sons Sports station. Fox Sports

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fourteen fifteen. Hey, welcome back, tying the back here, Fox Swarts

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fourteen fifty, Young Steve, He's
Jay. Now we got a guy,

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Jason with breaking news. Arizona baseball
will play in the Frisco College Baseball Classic

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in twenty twenty four. What is
that? Um, it's like a tournament

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basically for the Arizona baseball team.
They're gonna be playing in it the next

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year. Friscoe. Yeah, Frisco. Do you think that might be back

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where they were playing? Yeah?
Oh okay, yeah they played that wasn't

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the FSCO outside of Dallas? Yeah? But the last year they they played

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in Dallas at that big at the
Rangers. Yeah, tied to this back.

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Yeah, I wonder I think it
is. Yeah, I don't care,

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Yeah, I think so. Jordan
Morgan has been added to the Whirlful

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Trophy watch list. Said that wrong, But how many trophies are there?

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Man? Why does Danny Werfell have
a trophy? I don't know. I

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mean, he was good, didn't
you want? You want to ask Florida

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stood still? I mean, why
is there a Danny Werfeld Trophy? I

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think you answered your own question.
Yeah, pretty big deal on man,

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Well, is there a Reggie Bush
trophy or Matt Liner? He doesn't even

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have his trophy or did they get
it back? Didn't win it? Okay,

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you wush get his trophy back?
No, No, that's probably the

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way he did, just saying answered
my question. Okay. Jacob Cowen has

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been added to the Paul Hornug Award
Watney list Horney Award watch List. What's

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that a word for? Like Paul
Horney was was a running back, right?

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I thought it was an ahole purpose
guy guy, I thought, so,

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who's ja ja? Yeah? Yeah, Well you didn't play the same

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digestion that Paul Horney play, did
you? Did you talk to County or

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yea? How was it? I
spent my time with with with the Delora.

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Yeah, no, I did you
know? I asked him, I

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said, you know, oh yeah, you know, what'd you think of

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Dorian Singer leaving? He said he
did what he did. And you asked

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about about leaving and coming back,
didn't you? Yeah? Yeah, and

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just that you know, he just
felt like he had more to do.

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And did we say that. I
can't remember we talked about it because he's

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still undersigns. Didn't he's about five. Yeah, but he's got shoulders and

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things. Oh does he Yeah,
I wouldn't know what that means. I

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know he was. He was wearing
a not a tank top, but got

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a sleeveless sleeveless shirt he was wearing. He was no, he was wearing

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a golf shirt. But man,
it was pretty. The sleeves were tight.

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Sleeves were tight. Um. The
Paul Horney Award is presented by Texas

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Roadhouse to the most versatile player in
college football. It's done by the Louisville

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Sports Commission. Paul Horney, who
was you know? He was a quarterback

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in Order Dame. He was a
running back in the NFL with those great

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Green Bay Packer teams of the sixties. Um, Paul Horney. Yeah,

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Well he was one that did the
commercials. She remember he did said I

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think that is the quarterbacks to get
the girls or something. It's the offensive.

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It was about that. It was
kind of like you know, back

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in the day when you can say
back, you can say stuff like that.

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He's he's, uh, he's he's
in both college and Pro football Hall

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of Fames. Number five. I
remember him with with the with the Packers.

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So there you go. Okay,
we got that nice some national news.

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Dianna Trossi from the Phoenix Mercury's only
eighteen points away from becoming the first

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w NBA player to score ten thousand
points. That's a lot. Yeah.

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Yeah, she's been there a long
time. Yeah yeah. Um they play

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against the Atlanta Dream tonight, so
you could do it against Aery McDonald's.

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Yep. So I called her Ari. My son's gonna yell. He yelled

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at me the other day about that. We're having dinner and I called her

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Ari to him and he, like
I thought he was gonna get up,

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get up from the table, come
over to smack potatoes. Yeah, I

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mean he was really mad at me. He was really mad at me.

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Um. Some history for the Detroit
Lions. Um, they have solid out

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season tickets for the first time since
they started playing at Ford Field, sold

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out o the seas. Yes for
these whoa how many tickets is that?

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Oh? I'm not sure. I
was really improsed. There's a lot of

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buzz for them this year. Yeah. I mean they're a really good team.

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I mean they've had a lot of
young pieces. The defense should be

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really really good. Um, you
know, I'm so that's shocking to me.

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Yeah, Jared Goss still the quarterback
there, Yeah he is. Okay,

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yeah, I mean they but they
have a lot of really good pieces

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around him. So yeah, that
you should be pretty good. It should

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be pretty good for the first time
in a long time, you know.

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But this is just when Detroit becomes
Detroit and they're terrible, right when you

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think they're gonna be so dang good, and then they haven't been good a

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long time now. But I hope
they're good. Buddy of mine, well,

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Danny, you know, Danny Martinez, his dad, his dad is

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from Detroit, from Detroit. He's
in Detroit, and so it's it's we

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poke him all the time about it's
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a long haul for them. Yeah. I hope they're good. Yeah,

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it'll make the Thanksgiving the game much
better for sure. I love that that.

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That's probably the only time I really
sit on and watch the Lions.

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Okay, yeah, meet too though. Um the Denver Broncos um linebacker Jonas

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Griffith I suffered an ACL injury.
Um that the team has already lost.

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Where I received Tim Pastrick for the
season with a torn achilles and a rookie

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corner back Riley Moss for at least
a month was a core muscle injury.

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It's because it's because Sean Payton ripped
on one. Yeah, I mean,

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karma man with these Bronco players goes
around comes right. Fortunately I did see.

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I only saw like a graphic on
this though. Where Nathaniel Hackett,

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I guess, in a press conference
because he's an assistant coach with the Jets,

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in a press conference, said that
Sean Payton's comments has brought their team.

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Oh I'm sure. Yeah, I'm
sure, you know, scoreboard material

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or whatever. Keep my kid.
Coaches and a lot of people have said,

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you know, Peyton was way out
of line saying that if you want

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to believe that, fine, but
you can't go out and say that stuff

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publicly. You really can't. Yeah. Okay, Well that's all the breaking

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is off for today. Not too
much going on, not well, not

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outside of side talking about it.
I mean, that's for sure. It's

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kind of hogging all the news.
Yeah, definitely, right, But anything

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else we don't talk about. Here's
something for that for that. Take that

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that that somebody and I know why
I'm giving this guy so much attention,

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I'm not even gonna say, and
I'd have to go back and look it

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up anyways, But the guy who
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Arizona because they really wanted a SCU. So somebody posted all time records in

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uh in football, Arizona leads fifty
forty five and one, basketball Arizona one

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fifty nine and eighty seven, baseball
Arizona two sixty one, two twenty seven,

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softball ninety nine and fifty three,
volleyball fifty nine and forty seven,

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and then and then only women's basketball
ASCU is sixty three and thirty nine.

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So who's got the better program?
Long? No, No, we talked.

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We talked about this, so we
did. Remember four months ago we

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talked about this. Who had the
better program overall? And Arizona had it

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pretty much. Let me ask you, though, because I wasn't here during

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this time in the eighties, what
football and Arizona has it? Yeah?

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Okay, So how how was it
living through the streak of getting beat?

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How sucked? Steve? No,
no, no, okay, could you

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elaborate please? It sucked and it
made me hate the game and I still

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hate the game, even though Arizona
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like the last whatever forty years or
whatever, you know, since since Larry

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Smith got here. I hated it
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a six year old, I hated
the game because Arizona just always got and

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it's just I thought it was that's
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And you know, we talked about
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in nineteen seventies four, ninety seventy
four and broke a streak of you know,

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of losses, and I, you
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and you know, I was in
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know, even going through elementary school, middle school, and high school.

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That streak was awful because they because
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they would kick Arizona as an ass
every time. Even Jim Young's first year,

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Arizona goes into that game eight and
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lose fifty five to ten, saying
similar record, and they lose Asu fifty

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five to I think it was fifty
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But that goes to show you of
the rivalry, how crazy it is.

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I know, how many times?
So they won when they were not expected

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to win. Yeah, I mean
when Arizona, when Arizona bt Asu in

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in nineteen eighty two, they are
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twelve or Pac ten ACU need to
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Bowl. They come to they come
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were bad people to the su fans. We were just really bad to them.

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I don't regret anything should but we
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to them. Did you did you
do what the Douay students do now?

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In the to UCLA we were we
were adults and we were bad. We

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were mean to them. And this
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us. We were so we were
so mean to them. Uh. And

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then from that point on, you
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you know, when when that when
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then it became more of a back
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to the point where I, like
I've said a bunch of times, I

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will not go watch an Arizona game
up at it up at Sun Devils.

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Well, you know, there's your
Carbo. Yeah, I'm sure there's your

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car because you know, I mean, so many bad things have happened,

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and it's just like, you know, we leave the state when they're playing,

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when they're playing up in ten to
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hate the game here and and you
know, but no, it was awful,

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Steve, because you just felt like
that's the way things were supposed to

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be a sus You're supposed to get
to the end of the season and ASC

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was supposed to kick your and they
often did, and they always I hated

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it. Um. The NFL is
back tonight, Yes, Hall of Fames

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tonight. Yeah, the Jets and
the Jets Browns, Browns. Yeah.

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I don't think Aaron Rodgers gonna play
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They say they're not gonna plaim at
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the final preseason games, like a
snap or something, but he'll probably won't

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be getting much playtime then I don't
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not even gonna dressed to that.
Yeah, he won't dress tonight. I

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got a call. Ye take it, you're on the Aaron E on the

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ball? Hello, Hello, no
call so dials. I thought I was

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gonna yeah, yeah, So like
I was saying, Zach Wilson's gonna be

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starting for the Jets tonight. And
I also his birthday. He's twenty four

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today. He just turned twenty four. Yeah in the NFL. Yeah,

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I'm twenty one. You know,
three years. You got three years to

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work on it. Yeah, that's
some time, you got some Yeah so

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but yeah, so I'm you know, check out the game, see what's

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going on. Um, just because
you know, let's try again. Hi,

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you're on the air and eye on
the ball. Hey, sorry about

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that. That's okay, Jay?
Did you look up but that any warful

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trophies about? Uh? No,
I did not. You know, I

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don't. Oh okay, then that's
good. All right. Don't you feel

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like a heel? I do?
I absolutely do this every day. Who's

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this? Who's this? Who's this? I absolutely do? Okay, I'm

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I'm a butt couple of times.
I'm I'm a big Duck fan. Okay,

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okay, okay, you're a Duck
fan. Duct in any trouble whatsoever,

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They're going to the Big ten.
Right. Are you happy about that?

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No? Not really. I never
wanted to pactice. Yeah okay,

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but okay, let's let's let me
ask it this way, assuming the Pact

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twelve is going to break up,
Let's say the four quarter schools go to

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the Big twelve and so the oregan
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the Big ten? Oh? Yeah, I don't. I don't think it's

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cute. I don't think you're could
have gone any worse far as what converence

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they would have gone to, right
right? Yeah? No, I mean

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yeah, I mean they gotta do
what they gotta do. Okay, well,

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yeah, it's become appreciation. What
do you feel like? Yeah?

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Here, okay, here it is. I looked it up here it is.

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College football is a premier award for
community service, undering college football is

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the most impactful leaders and community service. The Worful Trophy has presented the FBS

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player who best combines exemplary community services, leadership achievement on and off the field.

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National voters considered communities from over one
hundred majing adversities. The Worfil Trophy

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brothers support each other each other's efforts
around the country. Named for Danny Worfil,

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the nineteen ninety six National Championship winning
quarterback of the University of Florida Gators,

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who was renowned for his commitment to
service and leadership. The Worfil Trophy

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is the premier major college award college
football award that places the majority of its

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voting emphasis on community service. I'm
now I feel like a complete turn right

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to start this big smoke twenty three, three o'clock whatever time. It is

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a big steaming pile of poop.
So I apologize to that, and congratulations

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to UH, to Jordan Morgans for
being nominated for this. Just being nominated

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for this is a very cool deal, especially for a guy who he's gonna

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be a first round draft pick.
He's got all the attention and still he's

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out there doing stuff that gets and
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feel better about myself now having said
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Yep, all right, okay,
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and dig our break. Steve Um
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He's Jakin's ass. Now on the
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Jr. Sell Sports Jim, how
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And Sasquat in the Great Northwest?
How teams come on? How am

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I tough to find? You?
Know? I haven't heard from you in

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years. You know, we're like
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Imagine where we go? Did eventually
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like twelve years now. I got
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ago, and I ended up across
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to one show. And yeah,
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We want to talk about Washington Athletics. What do you here? What do

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you know about them going to the
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much as you guys have heard down
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what's going on with this meeting in
Arizona tonight. And it was interesting because

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the timing of a meeting that the
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having their meeting at six o'clock.
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o'clock here in Seattle. I think
it's a zoom meeting and we'll find out

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more of them. But it sure
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dominoes are falling once Arizona figures out
what they're gonna do. And then does

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that mean that Arizona and Ashue go
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Utah goes as well? Or does
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stay in the Pac twelve which will
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Washington State guy, went to school
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alam and so it seems like it
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for us, and I'm not happy
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gotten a sense of the feel of
the well, first, the Washington fans

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in terms of what they wanted to
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of all of this, well,
I think, you know, we talked

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to John Kanzano every week, John
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Portland, and you know, he
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one of the things with Oregon and
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it's it's their ticket once it's the
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if they were to win the Pac
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that they'd want to hang on to. But now with the fiasco that George

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Kliofkoff has caused by waiting so long
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that that maybe they're going to be
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we've heard is that Washington's waiting to
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all hint is kind of on Oregon. There's all these little different things that

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you keep hearing, and Steve,
it's kind of tough as as a reporter

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trying to figure out who's telling you
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like a lot of people are lying
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No, we've talked about that as
well. Right, Jay, where where

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it's who you believe in, how
much are telling you were not telling you?

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And we've been through it as reporters
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talk about the Polosa and wsum them
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what are they gonna do become the
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I went through I went through a
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no, we're gonna leave the the
Pac twelve is going to disintegrate.

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What's that going to do for the
coops? Where are they gone? Where

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the Beaver's gone? Uh, Stanford
Cow. I don't know about them.

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But yeah, I think we're gonna
be the odd man out. We'll probably

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end up in the Mountain West.
But there's there's still a possibility this all

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could come together too well. Yeah, yeah, you hope. I mean,

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I you know, we were talking
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I really wish none of this was
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PAC twelve guy born in Tucson,
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and into the pack and we love
that. Um and I'm really unhappy with

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this, but kind of like in
the end, you just want your school

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whether it's Washington State, Washington whoever, to end up in the best possible

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place. And I think I'm just
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Big twelve is were is the best
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just sucksly sucks. I just I
just okay. I'm sixty six years old.

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I grew up with the Pac eight, the Pac ten, the Pac

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twelve, and I love our conference. I love Pac twelve basketball, I

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love Pac twelve football. Saturday afternoon, I don't want to see the damn

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SEC. I know it's a better
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I don't want to watch the Big
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in Seattle. I don't care about
you know, Michigan and Iowa. And

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it's just boring to me. It's
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It's just money, money, money, everything's money, money, money.

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And you know, I mean people
probably say, well, you'd probably

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take a drop somewhere else if they
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be a hypocrite, maybe I would, But I just the whole thing.

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It just bothers me. It just
bothers me that this is gonna crumble,

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and we're well, we're gonna find
out tonight or tomorrow what's gonna happen here.

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I hope that Arizona will stick around, but I think you're right about

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that. I think they're they're bound
for the Big twelve. So you've been

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in Seattle for a long time,
and we talk about this. Bigger markets

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like Seattle, Phoenix, LA,
no one really cares about the colleges.

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I think maybe in Saddle they do
more than than in a SU and in

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UCLA in LA. Where does Washington
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I'm assuming Seattle the Seahawks are number
one, and then everybody else falls

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into place. Well, you know, it's kind of funny because you know

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when I when I was a kid, it was Washington Huskies football for the

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most part, that's all we had. We didn't have any we didn't have

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an NBA team for once too.
It was the late sixties, and then

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you got the Mariners in the seventies. I mean, hockey came in just

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recently. So yeah, I mean, when you look at it, I

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think most sports fans, at least
what they tell us in sports radio is

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to pound on the Seahawks and Mariners. And I mean there's a big,

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big number of fans here that follow
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many as followed the Seahawks and Mariners. But there's especially a lot of interest

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this year though, because the Husky's
got the heck of the team coming back

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and they've got a shot at being
in that college football playoffs. Yeah.

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No, that's well, that's the
thing. I mean, you know,

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Steve and I went, you know, when we were covering the team.

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You'd go to Washington game and there
were seventy plus thousand people there, great

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places, right and it was and
it was like that at a su and

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then the Cardinals showed up and then
you know, we've seen what's happened in

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La. Mean, we saw pictures
of UCLA games. Last there was a

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UCLA game we us a bowling green
and there were like four thousand people there.

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I mean, you know, we've
talked about how these you know,

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the Pact twelve schools being in big
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they're in a big TV market,
the TV market is so split, well

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it is it is you know,
and really this is a Seahawks town.

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Um. Yeah, the Mariners.
There's a lot of skepticism about the Mariners.

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They're the only major league team that's
never been to the World Series.

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People are up in arms about Jerry
Depoto, a general manager, not doing

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enough at the aiding deadline, even
though they're in the playoff on the wild

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card race anyway. But yeah,
I'm with you on that. I mean,

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I used to go to Husky games
as a kid, and you just

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when you went, you expected it
to be sold out. But there doesn't

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seem there's still a lot of interest, but not as much as they're used

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to be. Yeah. Yeah,
so it keeps it keeps your life busy

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on this on the sports show though, I'm sure it's one of the big

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topics. Oh, the guy I
worked with, he's a WSU alum too,

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and uh so we're we're talking about
it every day. I mean,

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we talked about the Mariners today too, but I mean most of the focus

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was on what's going on. And
as you guys know, you know,

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Twitter X or whatever the hell they
they're calling it down. I mean,

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there's just something new. There's another
reporter reporting something new. It seems like

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every half hour today, and so
you just you try and keep up with

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it, and I, I mean, we're powerless to do anything about it.

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I you know, you guys are
talking about it might be the best

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bet for Arizona to go of the
Big twelve, and I think you're probably

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right about that. But there's just
there's this part of me that's just kind

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of going, come on, guys, let's just all let's look out for

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each other here, and let's you
know, Arizona, Okay, Yeah,

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you can make you thirty one million
or whatever it is if you go to

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the Big twelve. But why don't
you, you know, just just hang

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around for a while here. Maybe
the Apple deal won't be that great in

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the beginning, but that streaming seems
to be where it's at and it's the

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future for sure, and maybe down
the road, if you stick around,

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you'll end up making as much,
if not more than what the Big twelve

406
00:27:30.519 --> 00:27:34.279
seams are getting. Yeah, well
maybe maybe Jim Moore, you might get

407
00:27:34.319 --> 00:27:44.240
a raise next year. Maybe you
guys get raised down there. So let

408
00:27:44.319 --> 00:27:47.799
me kind of tell jaff story here, and you're gonna have to help me

409
00:27:47.880 --> 00:27:49.640
with it. So Jim is one
of those cranky guys in Seattle, you

410
00:27:49.720 --> 00:27:52.559
know, work with the Seattle Post. Intelligent once of my one of my

411
00:27:52.640 --> 00:27:56.960
great guys. Back in the day. Um So, Arizona plays plays Wisconsin

412
00:27:57.079 --> 00:28:00.720
in Utah and gets beat. You
remember there were the number one team in

413
00:28:00.759 --> 00:28:04.359
the country at the time. Two
thousand. Arizona gets beat by Wisconsin and

414
00:28:04.680 --> 00:28:08.119
Jim Moore is the you know,
the reporter out there, goes into the

415
00:28:08.240 --> 00:28:11.720
press conference and asked Lute, like, what are the first questions? What

416
00:28:11.920 --> 00:28:14.839
was you would you ask? Lut
I know what you asked him. I'm

417
00:28:14.880 --> 00:28:19.359
asking you, Well, I actually, Steve, you know what I was.

418
00:28:19.680 --> 00:28:22.039
I was in the tunnel before in
the game, and I heard some

419
00:28:22.160 --> 00:28:26.400
of the players talking about the next
game that they were going to play after

420
00:28:26.480 --> 00:28:30.000
they beat Wisconsin, and I can't
remember who it was, Richard Jeffers,

421
00:28:30.039 --> 00:28:33.359
somebody Richard. I heard him talking
about that and I thought it was written.

422
00:28:33.359 --> 00:28:36.960
Then they end up losing to Wisconsin, so they never got to that

423
00:28:37.079 --> 00:28:40.079
next game, and I think I
asked him something about, you know,

424
00:28:40.319 --> 00:28:45.000
your team complacent and looking ahead.
I don't know, you Maybe it can

425
00:28:45.079 --> 00:28:48.799
refresh my memory because I've I've gotten
into it with a few coaches over the

426
00:28:48.920 --> 00:28:51.920
years, but I remember Lute being
in my face and I thought, got

427
00:28:52.000 --> 00:28:56.079
Luke Alsen's right in my face here, and I'm sorry, coach, but

428
00:28:56.200 --> 00:28:57.279
this is what I heard. I'm
not trying to be a jerk here.

429
00:28:57.720 --> 00:29:03.039
I know it was Richard Jefferson said
you ran into the into the hallway,

430
00:29:03.279 --> 00:29:04.599
and then yeah, he was that
was one of your first questions to him,

431
00:29:04.640 --> 00:29:07.039
and yeah, he was all over
you. We've all had one of

432
00:29:07.119 --> 00:29:11.720
those, Steve and I had.
He came up to he came up to

433
00:29:11.799 --> 00:29:14.200
me and he grabbed my credential.
He just looked at my credential. He

434
00:29:14.240 --> 00:29:17.880
goes, how'd you get in here? How you getting me? And you

435
00:29:17.960 --> 00:29:19.920
know, looking back on it,
I understand why he was upset, because,

436
00:29:21.039 --> 00:29:23.440
I mean, his team just lost
and they were they were out um,

437
00:29:23.720 --> 00:29:26.440
but it just seemed like a fair
question to ask hive and that,

438
00:29:26.720 --> 00:29:30.839
you know what Jefferson had said in
the tunnel, It was I just happened

439
00:29:30.880 --> 00:29:33.480
to hear it when I was walking
by him. I wasn't just standing there

440
00:29:33.519 --> 00:29:36.759
with my ear, you know,
like I wonder if Jefferson's gonna say something.

441
00:29:36.799 --> 00:29:40.960
I'm just kind of walking by and
I heard that Welcome to the club

442
00:29:41.079 --> 00:29:42.799
man. We all had one of
those with or maybe a couple of those

443
00:29:42.839 --> 00:29:47.039
with Luke. I know, Steve
did, I did, and pretty much

444
00:29:47.079 --> 00:29:51.519
everybody did. Do you miss do
you miss those days? You know?

445
00:29:51.920 --> 00:29:57.279
Uh? I No. I was
a sports writer for thirty years, and

446
00:29:59.039 --> 00:30:00.559
it's kind of funny. I never
in a million years so i'd been doing

447
00:30:00.599 --> 00:30:03.920
sports radio. But I've enjoyed it. I've had a good time. I

448
00:30:04.079 --> 00:30:07.279
was hoping to retire at the Post
Intelligence or if at the paper went out

449
00:30:07.319 --> 00:30:11.559
of business, and I think it
was O nine and so I was in

450
00:30:11.640 --> 00:30:15.720
my early fifties trying to figure out
what to do and got lucky that they

451
00:30:15.799 --> 00:30:18.599
opened or they started a new sports
station in town. And I've been doing

452
00:30:18.640 --> 00:30:22.599
it ever since. Well, it's
funny, Jay, Jim, and I'll

453
00:30:22.599 --> 00:30:25.519
always remember. This was one of
the first guys to call me after the

454
00:30:25.599 --> 00:30:29.000
Citizen closed, about the same time
the PI close. He said, Steve,

455
00:30:29.079 --> 00:30:32.160
don't worry, things will fall into
place. She'll be okay. And

456
00:30:32.240 --> 00:30:33.640
let me tell you, Jim,
you lied to me. You lied to

457
00:30:33.759 --> 00:30:38.039
me. It took a year for
that to happen. No, I can

458
00:30:38.359 --> 00:30:41.839
I can relate to that. Well, that's what you say was somebodys job.

459
00:30:41.960 --> 00:30:45.599
I mean, I had a bunch
of people tell me that you're okay,

460
00:30:45.640 --> 00:30:47.880
you're gonna land on your feet.
You really did at what you do.

461
00:30:48.440 --> 00:30:49.799
And and you know, like I
thought, well, maybe my phone

462
00:30:49.839 --> 00:30:53.640
will start ringing, maybe my inbox
will fill up. None of the above

463
00:30:53.680 --> 00:30:59.720
happened. That's just so it is. After I got fired from the from

464
00:31:00.039 --> 00:31:03.640
seven ten yes in Seattle, I
unjustifiably, I might add, But anyway,

465
00:31:03.640 --> 00:31:07.039
I did get fired. Um,
I was see eleven months looking around

466
00:31:07.079 --> 00:31:10.799
for a job, and I figured, well, who the hell's gonna hire

467
00:31:10.839 --> 00:31:14.000
me? I'm sixty three years old. You know, it gets tougher issue

468
00:31:14.279 --> 00:31:17.920
actually get older in this business.
Well we'll see. I was the opposite.

469
00:31:17.960 --> 00:31:19.000
I did have. The thing happened
right away, and it was because

470
00:31:19.039 --> 00:31:22.279
of Steve. I got. I
was the president of the local uh Indoor

471
00:31:22.319 --> 00:31:25.920
Football League team, and I got
laid off, you know, with the

472
00:31:26.039 --> 00:31:30.279
COVID season, and literally literally that
night, Steve calls me and says,

473
00:31:30.319 --> 00:31:33.319
hey, you want to do a
radio show together. And I'm like,

474
00:31:33.640 --> 00:31:37.640
okay, yeah, I know,
but you said, how did you how

475
00:31:37.920 --> 00:31:38.440
did you? What did you call
me? And says, well, just

476
00:31:38.559 --> 00:31:41.000
because and I didn't know. He
didn't, Yes, Steve didn't know.

477
00:31:41.680 --> 00:31:45.839
And two weeks later we were on
the air. Oh that's awesome, that's

478
00:31:45.839 --> 00:31:48.200
awesome. You know, we kind
of look out for each other and that.

479
00:31:48.359 --> 00:31:52.240
Yeah, to bring it back to
the Pack twelve, that's kind of

480
00:31:52.279 --> 00:31:55.440
what I hope the schools will be
doing too. It seems like everybody's looking

481
00:31:55.480 --> 00:31:57.079
out for themselves. Yeah, and
that's not the way we were raised,

482
00:31:57.200 --> 00:32:00.440
wasn't. I mean, let's look
out for each other a little bit here

483
00:32:00.480 --> 00:32:02.640
and um yeah, now I'm happy
to hear that. You guys sound like

484
00:32:02.720 --> 00:32:06.559
you know what you're doing. I
mean, I'm I always tell people I

485
00:32:06.640 --> 00:32:07.960
go, you know what, I'm
a sportswriter who happens to be on the

486
00:32:08.079 --> 00:32:12.480
radio. And Steve, you're doing
a great job here. Like whenever I

487
00:32:12.559 --> 00:32:15.279
have to lead the show and the
lead guy is on vacation, God,

488
00:32:15.319 --> 00:32:17.519
I just like, I'm up before. Oh it's hard, it's hard stuff,

489
00:32:17.720 --> 00:32:22.160
true stuff. Yeah, it's hard
that I'm with you. I'm I'm

490
00:32:22.279 --> 00:32:25.279
that guy. It's it is hard
with Steve goes and but but it's not

491
00:32:25.400 --> 00:32:28.559
work, guys, right, it's
not work. We're just having fun,

492
00:32:28.720 --> 00:32:30.839
we are. Yeah, it's not
working. The station I'm at now.

493
00:32:30.920 --> 00:32:34.640
When I screw up, it's almost
like, hey, that was pretty funny

494
00:32:34.680 --> 00:32:38.799
how you screwed up. Good,
good to hear your voice, Jim.

495
00:32:38.960 --> 00:32:45.119
Don't don't piss anybody off, please, at least not tomorrow. Hey,

496
00:32:45.160 --> 00:32:47.480
you know what, it was a
nice surprise hearing from you today. Yeah,

497
00:32:47.559 --> 00:32:50.680
no, I said, I gotta
get Jim on. He'll be fun,

498
00:32:50.759 --> 00:32:53.000
and I gotta remember that story from
back. And that's too good.

499
00:32:53.240 --> 00:32:58.839
That's too good. I appreciate you
bringing that up. Well you're alive,

500
00:32:59.000 --> 00:33:00.559
you're good, Thank you, and
then thanks so much. Good to talk

501
00:33:00.559 --> 00:33:02.839
to you. Yeah, take care
of you, guys. Take care.

502
00:33:04.319 --> 00:33:06.400
Yeah, I didn't know he was
sixty to six. Yeah, we've we've

503
00:33:06.440 --> 00:33:08.640
been along a long time. You
know, he's thinking he's one of us.

504
00:33:08.720 --> 00:33:12.319
Right, it does exactly like one
of us. You know, guys.

505
00:33:12.480 --> 00:33:15.240
We loved what we were doing,
and then the way that, the

506
00:33:15.319 --> 00:33:16.920
way the tables turned, you had
to figure something out. And there he

507
00:33:17.079 --> 00:33:20.880
is that he's doing. We're doing. It's a reinvention. I'll be in

508
00:33:20.920 --> 00:33:24.119
a whole a much better market than
we're We're both having fun. Very cool.

509
00:33:24.119 --> 00:33:27.039
We go all right, let's get
out of here. We're gonna come

510
00:33:27.079 --> 00:33:29.160
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This is I on the Ball with
Steve Barbera and Jay Getzals on Fox

563
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Sports fourteen fifty. Hey, welcome
back to li on about here Fox Sports

564
00:37:21.679 --> 00:37:23.599
fourteen fifty. I'm Steve, Pee, Jake, and I got a guy

565
00:37:23.800 --> 00:37:28.840
Jason with us today. I have
a quick thing for you Jake and Jason.

566
00:37:29.400 --> 00:37:31.239
Um. So I'm on. I
have someone a friend of mine who

567
00:37:31.280 --> 00:37:35.400
texts me a lot about a lot
of different things, and she's always on

568
00:37:35.920 --> 00:37:39.239
on Facebook and done a lot of
stuff and she do we? And she

569
00:37:39.320 --> 00:37:45.519
talked about why wasn't the Arizona not
going to the Big ten? Right?

570
00:37:45.679 --> 00:37:46.679
Is it a better deal going?
I said, no, dude, were

571
00:37:46.719 --> 00:37:50.760
never invited to put the You can't
go somewhere with the rein how to buy

572
00:37:50.800 --> 00:37:53.760
it? And she sits up,
well, Cal, Stamford and um and

573
00:37:53.920 --> 00:37:57.880
watching the organ, we're gonna go, do they? Does Stamford and Cal

574
00:37:57.960 --> 00:38:00.559
have a bigger name? Bigger Brandon
as well? Washington has a bigger name?

575
00:38:00.719 --> 00:38:02.880
What we're gonna we know? Dude
does? And so to Stanford and

576
00:38:02.960 --> 00:38:07.239
she says Stanford has a bigger and
I said, so, I'm asking you,

577
00:38:07.679 --> 00:38:09.960
does Stanford have a bigger brand name
than Arizona. I think they do.

578
00:38:10.519 --> 00:38:13.800
I do too, And she was
a little surprised, and I said,

579
00:38:14.320 --> 00:38:16.679
they win the Cup every year and
they went and they went to the

580
00:38:16.760 --> 00:38:21.119
Roseball but three times and uh,
you know, in like the last you

581
00:38:21.159 --> 00:38:24.079
know, under David at least two
or three at least twice and maybe three

582
00:38:24.159 --> 00:38:28.480
times Andrew Luck came out of there. No, they do have in terms

583
00:38:28.519 --> 00:38:30.800
of an athletic brand. Yes,
Stafford's a bigger brand. I don't even

584
00:38:30.840 --> 00:38:34.599
think it's close. No, I
don't think it is close either. I

585
00:38:34.679 --> 00:38:40.360
mean, you know Arizona's basketball team, yes, but everything else Stanford exactly

586
00:38:40.440 --> 00:38:44.719
all we have his basketball he just
said jay On. On a national level,

587
00:38:44.719 --> 00:38:46.960
I think Stanford like they have a
bigger everything, like you know,

588
00:38:47.519 --> 00:38:52.599
football, football, baseball. They've
won a bunch of national championships and baseball,

589
00:38:52.039 --> 00:38:57.639
and they still might be left out
in the Big ten. Big twould

590
00:38:57.639 --> 00:39:00.880
be surprised if Kellen Stanford both go
to the Big Yeah. I think they're

591
00:39:00.920 --> 00:39:04.000
just gonna take the two. It's
like Cal being the little brother and well,

592
00:39:04.119 --> 00:39:07.159
you come on alone. You know
you gotta come. But they're they're

593
00:39:07.960 --> 00:39:10.119
cow is the one that's in the
tough Yes, Cal Washington State in Organs.

594
00:39:10.239 --> 00:39:13.800
Yeah, Hi, you're on the
R and I on the ball.

595
00:39:14.800 --> 00:39:19.159
Yes, this is Nico Man.
What's up, Nico? Hey Man,

596
00:39:19.239 --> 00:39:22.840
just cooling. You were wondering about
you a couple of days ago. I'm

597
00:39:22.880 --> 00:39:25.199
alive, man, I got a
girlfriend, so I can't be given all

598
00:39:25.239 --> 00:39:30.320
my time. I just fell off
my chair. Wait a minute, hell

599
00:39:30.360 --> 00:39:35.599
long. You couldn't have had this
girlfriend for very long, so she can't

600
00:39:35.719 --> 00:39:38.880
really be a girlfriend yet, can't
she? Man? We were having an

601
00:39:38.960 --> 00:39:42.960
on enough thing for a couple of
months, I decided, Hey, you

602
00:39:43.039 --> 00:39:46.599
know what, you can date Nico
for a while. You're talking to the

603
00:39:46.719 --> 00:39:51.320
third person exactly. So what's up, Nico? Yeah, I want to

604
00:39:51.320 --> 00:39:53.960
talk about this realignment. Go ahead, go ahead, where you got I

605
00:39:54.079 --> 00:40:00.400
hate it? I hate it too. This Apple deal might be better than

606
00:40:00.440 --> 00:40:05.360
we think. Man, you think
so well? You'd like to think that

607
00:40:05.440 --> 00:40:07.800
they've got people smart enough to figure
that out, right, I mean,

608
00:40:07.840 --> 00:40:08.760
if it's a better deal, they'll
stay with it, don't you think.

609
00:40:09.840 --> 00:40:12.920
Well, let me just say this, say like, if you want to

610
00:40:12.960 --> 00:40:16.000
watch Pack twelve on Apple TV,
you gotta pay like fifty bucks like Sunday

611
00:40:16.039 --> 00:40:22.000
ticket or whatever, you know,
And how many people are gonna do that?

612
00:40:22.119 --> 00:40:25.119
Nko, I'd do it. It's
not it's not fifty dollars, but

613
00:40:25.199 --> 00:40:30.199
it's not gonna be that. I
think are currently an Apple TV subscription to

614
00:40:30.280 --> 00:40:32.559
seven bucks a month. I'm sure
that they're going to raise the price.

615
00:40:34.320 --> 00:40:36.880
If they're gonna go out and get
you know, these sports and stuff like

616
00:40:37.000 --> 00:40:40.719
that. It might be twenty eighteen, fifteen, whatever, And then you

617
00:40:40.760 --> 00:40:43.480
do want to get it for a
few months, right, because it's all

618
00:40:43.480 --> 00:40:45.719
you need it for maybe maybe nine
months? No, Well, no,

619
00:40:45.760 --> 00:40:49.840
if you want to see basketball,
I mean, you'll pay for it.

620
00:40:51.400 --> 00:40:53.199
I'll pay for it. I'll pay
for it twice. But my grandpa could

621
00:40:53.199 --> 00:40:58.199
watch it. Yeah, but times
that buy a million, whatever number you

622
00:40:58.280 --> 00:41:02.000
want to put there. I just
have my doubts about about the number of

623
00:41:02.079 --> 00:41:06.440
people the fans in this part of
the country well, and how much they

624
00:41:06.559 --> 00:41:10.480
really care. Obviously the president's dude
too. You know, I don't have

625
00:41:10.599 --> 00:41:15.719
confidence in in the fans in this
part of the country are really doing that

626
00:41:15.920 --> 00:41:20.880
Nico and he sounds like an old
man. I am, you know,

627
00:41:21.039 --> 00:41:23.519
I know, I know our fans
here and I've said it. You've heard

628
00:41:23.559 --> 00:41:28.960
me Samuel on times. I hate
our fans because they're they're just they're they're

629
00:41:29.239 --> 00:41:31.079
entitled. But then when it comes
to putting up or shutting up, they

630
00:41:31.119 --> 00:41:35.079
don't put up. The shut up. Yeah, they look at you.

631
00:41:35.360 --> 00:41:39.199
They like that. But I appreciate
the fact that you would pay for a

632
00:41:39.280 --> 00:41:45.599
Nico not paid for not pap.
Yeah, were you working on now you've

633
00:41:45.599 --> 00:41:50.639
got a job, man, I'm
still making some faces. Man, Okay,

634
00:41:50.920 --> 00:41:52.840
you want to make sure you're happy. You got a girl, got

635
00:41:52.920 --> 00:41:55.519
a job, girlfriend, you got
a job, you got all going on

636
00:41:57.920 --> 00:42:00.559
I'm gonna quit that yob soon.
That's what you do, man, that's

637
00:42:00.599 --> 00:42:02.679
what you do. Yeah, we're
gonna see you at a tailgate this year.

638
00:42:05.119 --> 00:42:07.599
I don't know. You tailgate around
my family and they kind of like

639
00:42:07.760 --> 00:42:13.239
blacklisted me. Well you can come
and hang with us. You could be

640
00:42:13.280 --> 00:42:17.159
getting Benzalis. Man. We don't. We don't blacklist anybody. Hey man,

641
00:42:17.239 --> 00:42:22.719
they were just mad. I was
having too good of a time here.

642
00:42:22.239 --> 00:42:28.360
Okay, stay out of trouble.
Thanks, thank you. Got our

643
00:42:28.440 --> 00:42:31.559
guys? Where's your fat? Mike
Casson called in a while called game called

644
00:42:31.679 --> 00:42:37.280
yesterday our guy, um the cusser
or go what's the day? A good

645
00:42:37.360 --> 00:42:44.320
guy? He had to bleep him
out a couple of times, Howard while

646
00:42:44.480 --> 00:42:45.559
Yeah, he's he took a trip. He took a trip, and he's

647
00:42:45.760 --> 00:42:50.760
he's off the radar for a while. Okay, but you know, anybody

648
00:42:50.800 --> 00:42:52.599
want to call please do five two, four, one, six, seventy

649
00:42:52.639 --> 00:42:55.559
four forty. We'd like to go
ten minutes, so we got time right

650
00:42:55.599 --> 00:42:59.519
again. If you if you miss
any part of the show today or another

651
00:42:59.639 --> 00:43:01.440
day, go back and find us
on the podcast. I would think this

652
00:43:01.679 --> 00:43:09.599
J two. Anybody over forty five
hates it any but he under thirty five.

653
00:43:10.320 --> 00:43:13.320
Well, or they're saying, you
know, okay, it's it's just

654
00:43:13.360 --> 00:43:15.360
the next thing. But here's here's
the realization we had last night' we're having

655
00:43:15.400 --> 00:43:19.679
dinner at my house. My my
son Adam is over with his with his

656
00:43:19.840 --> 00:43:22.000
kid, with the whole you know, my whole family except for my wife

657
00:43:22.119 --> 00:43:25.719
is out out of the country carousing. Um and you know, my my,

658
00:43:25.960 --> 00:43:30.280
my, my guy, my my
grandson is seven months old, about

659
00:43:30.280 --> 00:43:32.960
to be able. We gonna give
me opion. No, we had the

660
00:43:34.039 --> 00:43:38.400
realization that he's never gonna know what
the PAC twelve ever was. He's not

661
00:43:38.519 --> 00:43:43.719
he might not even know that it
existed because it's gonna be gone. It's

662
00:43:43.760 --> 00:43:45.920
not like you know us growing up, but there was a PAC eight that

663
00:43:45.960 --> 00:43:50.639
began the pack tam in the PAC
twelve. It's gonna be gone. And

664
00:43:50.760 --> 00:43:53.679
he's he's probably not ever gonna know
what was the you know what what is

665
00:43:53.719 --> 00:43:58.079
this thing that was called the PAC
twelve? What was that? Yeah?

666
00:43:58.440 --> 00:44:01.840
And that was kind of a try
to tear to my eye, Oh you

667
00:44:02.039 --> 00:44:07.639
feel softy year tears, soft to
get tears. Everything always comes in the

668
00:44:07.760 --> 00:44:10.440
end, you know, so right, look at you, but this is

669
00:44:10.480 --> 00:44:14.800
one year old. This is one
hundred year old. Pun No, it's

670
00:44:14.920 --> 00:44:19.079
it's the granddaddy of them all or
whatever. Yeah, it's uh, I

671
00:44:19.159 --> 00:44:22.480
mean with the history that it has
with with you know, UCLA and all,

672
00:44:22.519 --> 00:44:25.679
it's national basketball championships, John Wooden
and well the Rose Bowl. Well,

673
00:44:27.599 --> 00:44:30.840
I'm about to make myself who's the
biggest cheerleader? Yeah, Bill Walton,

674
00:44:30.880 --> 00:44:34.960
what's gonna happen? Yeah, there's
a lot of people out there saying

675
00:44:35.039 --> 00:44:37.559
this is not such a bad thing
that Bill Walton is not going to be,

676
00:44:37.920 --> 00:44:40.960
you know, doing a game back
twelve games, conference of champion games

677
00:44:42.000 --> 00:44:44.800
every night. But well, I
don't know what that. I like Bill,

678
00:44:44.960 --> 00:44:47.599
We like Bill. Yeah, we'll
see. I mean, today's what's

679
00:44:47.599 --> 00:44:52.679
theay the third third, Ahugust third, twenty twenty three might be the day

680
00:44:52.840 --> 00:44:58.719
maybe tomorrow where we say, uh, Sainara one more year though we got

681
00:44:58.719 --> 00:45:00.280
on, Well, there's gonna be
another year of sports. But it's gonna

682
00:45:00.280 --> 00:45:04.320
be it's gonna be kind of a
downer year though, right. I mean

683
00:45:04.480 --> 00:45:07.360
people, you know, people are
gonna be kind of the conversation is gonna

684
00:45:07.360 --> 00:45:09.280
a lot of the conversation is gonna
be, you know about the last ye

685
00:45:09.480 --> 00:45:13.239
sure, of course. You know, well you're gonna na I'm not sure

686
00:45:13.280 --> 00:45:19.880
we yet, but you're gonna be
going to right see USC California. I

687
00:45:20.000 --> 00:45:22.639
might go along, we do the
show from there, but um, but

688
00:45:23.320 --> 00:45:25.679
you know you're going for a reason
because it's the last one. Yeah,

689
00:45:25.960 --> 00:45:30.760
well we were gonna we'd already decided
we're gonna go. But yeah, because

690
00:45:30.800 --> 00:45:31.599
we tried to go to that game
every year. Now, we didn't go

691
00:45:31.679 --> 00:45:36.000
to the We didn't go to Usela
last year because we were in on our

692
00:45:36.079 --> 00:45:38.159
Vegas trip, but we probably would
have gone to that game, although we

693
00:45:38.239 --> 00:45:42.000
did go to the San Diego State
game. We love taking those road trips

694
00:45:42.000 --> 00:45:45.119
to southern California. And that's in
the end, Steve, like, those

695
00:45:45.159 --> 00:45:50.679
are the thing that's what I'm gonna
miss most about all of this is whether

696
00:45:50.760 --> 00:45:53.599
or not we take the trip,
but just the opportunity to take a to

697
00:45:53.679 --> 00:45:57.400
take a football road trip. Because
he had so much fun on those trips.

698
00:45:57.400 --> 00:46:00.880
You might have to revisit your ASU
trip. No that No, that's

699
00:46:00.920 --> 00:46:05.400
not going to change. I never
considered that a road trip. I considered

700
00:46:05.440 --> 00:46:07.320
that driving to another glass of almost
as if I was going to Arizona.

701
00:46:07.360 --> 00:46:10.360
Stadium. I didn't feel like we
don't even consider that when a road trip

702
00:46:10.400 --> 00:46:13.079
a road trip, you know,
you jump in a car and take a

703
00:46:13.159 --> 00:46:15.920
bunch of people. You know,
you go to a usc UCLA. We

704
00:46:15.000 --> 00:46:19.480
did a Colorado trip we went to
We went to the Colorado game in Mike

705
00:46:19.519 --> 00:46:22.239
Stoops last year. It was a
horrible game. They remember, they got

706
00:46:22.280 --> 00:46:24.840
their asses kicked. But we had
fun on the trip. It's a beautiful

707
00:46:24.880 --> 00:46:28.400
place too. Yeah, we had
a blast on the trip. Um.

708
00:46:28.559 --> 00:46:30.679
You know when I was cutting the
years that I was covering another team,

709
00:46:30.960 --> 00:46:34.559
you know my group, the group
that I hang with, they went to

710
00:46:34.639 --> 00:46:37.719
the Oklahoma game that we went to. They went to the Texas Tech game.

711
00:46:37.760 --> 00:46:39.039
I mean, they took those trips
that we would take those. In

712
00:46:39.159 --> 00:46:44.199
fact, the Texas Tech game it
was underrated in this If you remember that

713
00:46:44.280 --> 00:46:47.079
Friday night, what do we do? We went to went to that steakhouse.

714
00:46:50.199 --> 00:46:52.519
Oh man, I still think about
that steak. My steak had like

715
00:46:52.639 --> 00:46:57.519
this, like this sauce on it
and peppercorns, and I still remember that.

716
00:46:58.079 --> 00:47:00.719
It was a good old ranch place. They just fed up thirty five

717
00:47:00.840 --> 00:47:05.119
years ago. Well, they did
exactly to us what the team did to

718
00:47:05.159 --> 00:47:08.000
Arizona lulled them to sleep and beat
the crap out of a living hell out.

719
00:47:08.079 --> 00:47:12.079
Yeah, but you know, and
that's that's what I'm gonna miss.

720
00:47:12.119 --> 00:47:14.519
I mean, thinking about this group
that I hang with. We we've been

721
00:47:14.719 --> 00:47:17.159
we've been on road trips to Seattle, you know, as a group to

722
00:47:17.280 --> 00:47:22.800
Seattle, Washington State. I never
went on they some of them went to

723
00:47:22.920 --> 00:47:27.639
Oregon, but I did not.
We went to Oregon State. We went

724
00:47:27.719 --> 00:47:30.719
to Stanford and cal a bunch of
times. Um, you know, and

725
00:47:30.920 --> 00:47:35.360
your jay, this is the fall
This is the fallout from it all.

726
00:47:35.639 --> 00:47:38.840
This is the fallout from it all. There will be no more Vegas trips

727
00:47:39.079 --> 00:47:45.159
fall my my gig and at the
Pac twelve tournament. Yeah, well it's

728
00:47:45.760 --> 00:47:49.400
that what you say, It all
comes to any less of course, less

729
00:47:49.400 --> 00:47:52.079
of course. And someone said this
to me today, TJ. Because he's

730
00:47:52.119 --> 00:47:54.639
a sports guy, East Coast guy. Maybe they moved something to Phoenix,

731
00:47:55.119 --> 00:47:59.880
where Phoenix is the place to a
destination place where if a issues involved in

732
00:47:59.880 --> 00:48:02.360
the they move some of the stuff
to Phoenix. Yeah, well I could

733
00:48:02.400 --> 00:48:07.119
see it's used to as part of
the Big twelve or whatever. Still hosting

734
00:48:07.320 --> 00:48:10.599
what they host, still hosting final
fours and regionals and stuff like that.

735
00:48:10.760 --> 00:48:15.679
But you know, the losing,
losing Vegas man, the packed off tournament,

736
00:48:15.719 --> 00:48:17.440
that's the biggest false. This one
coming up next year. It could

737
00:48:17.440 --> 00:48:21.400
be my last one, and we're
pretty bummed about that. That one hit

738
00:48:21.480 --> 00:48:22.519
us a couple of days ago,
were like, guess what, guys,

739
00:48:22.559 --> 00:48:27.880
if this happens, this is our
last tournament in Vegas. You know,

740
00:48:28.599 --> 00:48:30.880
my my buddy. I got a
buddy, uh, Gunny Mike who's one

741
00:48:30.920 --> 00:48:34.960
of the he's a camera guy,
so he works a lot, but he's

742
00:48:35.000 --> 00:48:37.920
always at the pack twelf tournament.
You just basic, it's been a nice

743
00:48:37.000 --> 00:48:40.480
run, you know, has been
Yeah, it's like the paper closing,

744
00:48:40.800 --> 00:48:44.679
like, you know, just stuff
happens. Yeah, it's been it's been

745
00:48:44.719 --> 00:48:47.519
a great run. But it's uh, I'm I'm afraid that. Let me

746
00:48:47.679 --> 00:48:51.360
let me ask you. This just
just our top of the head. Oh,

747
00:48:51.599 --> 00:48:54.320
let's just say tonight they say let's
stay in the pack. Twelve chances

748
00:48:54.360 --> 00:48:59.559
of that happening five two? No, I think if they stayed there,

749
00:48:59.599 --> 00:49:02.960
if they say they're staying, I
think Washington and Oregon to staying. If

750
00:49:04.039 --> 00:49:07.920
Arizona in the SU say they're staying, everybody's staying and they're gonna sullhow make

751
00:49:07.960 --> 00:49:10.679
a go with this is there?
I think there's like a five percent chance

752
00:49:10.719 --> 00:49:15.559
of that, you know. I
mean, if they've run the numbers and

753
00:49:15.639 --> 00:49:19.079
feel like it can work. I
don't think anybody's in a hurry to get

754
00:49:19.119 --> 00:49:22.039
to the big twelve Steve. I
think they're they're they're in her if they're

755
00:49:22.079 --> 00:49:24.159
in a her to get to the
big twelvets because they feel like they have

756
00:49:24.360 --> 00:49:27.880
to. But if they don't feel
like they have to, then they're not

757
00:49:27.920 --> 00:49:30.719
gonna go. Well, there's only
one thing that's gonna change it, and

758
00:49:30.840 --> 00:49:34.960
it's that money. Yeah, only
one thing, and and and as far

759
00:49:35.000 --> 00:49:37.880
as we know, it's not there
for what we know of it. I

760
00:49:37.960 --> 00:49:40.880
have a hard time believing that they
think that it's the best thing to do

761
00:49:42.039 --> 00:49:46.760
for the long term health of the
school, of the program. And you

762
00:49:46.840 --> 00:49:51.559
put the thing is the long term
health is another five years, because like

763
00:49:51.719 --> 00:49:54.039
you said, five years is gonna
it's gonna change again. And Steven,

764
00:49:54.119 --> 00:49:58.079
maybe that maybe they say, okay, we can we can withstand this for

765
00:49:58.199 --> 00:50:00.880
five years. The twenty minu or
twenty little Okay, we'll do this for

766
00:50:00.920 --> 00:50:05.480
five years because we know it's all
gonna churn again, you know, in

767
00:50:05.559 --> 00:50:12.400
another five years. Maybe maybe you've
always have hope. Yeah, there's a

768
00:50:12.440 --> 00:50:15.519
little bit I don't I don't think
so. Yeah, nobody thinks so.

769
00:50:16.360 --> 00:50:22.199
But um, maybe they say,
Okay, we'll do this for five years.

770
00:50:22.239 --> 00:50:24.440
Then get everybody on board, you
know, talk to the other schools

771
00:50:24.519 --> 00:50:28.159
or whatever, and everybody gets somewhere
say okay, let's let's you know,

772
00:50:28.239 --> 00:50:32.159
let's do this. Let's go get
San Diego State and uh SMU and another

773
00:50:32.199 --> 00:50:36.920
one, UNLVA, Colorado State,
whoever, Let's go do this for five

774
00:50:37.039 --> 00:50:40.320
years, maybe get a team in
the in the College Football Playoff every year

775
00:50:42.039 --> 00:50:45.360
and and go with it. Well, if they do jump, look at

776
00:50:45.440 --> 00:50:50.840
how the West is gonna look.
You probably won't even be watching any games.

777
00:50:50.880 --> 00:50:53.760
You probably won't be impressed. What's
left right? What's left right?

778
00:50:54.039 --> 00:50:57.079
And that's and that's the thing.
I mean. You think, Okay,

779
00:50:57.119 --> 00:51:01.599
Apple TV, you're gonna want people
to pay money to see Sandeo State play

780
00:51:01.719 --> 00:51:07.320
SMU. He's gonna do that,
Oregon State, Washington State. Right,

781
00:51:07.760 --> 00:51:09.039
you're not gonna get that. You're
not gonna get to U C, l

782
00:51:09.039 --> 00:51:14.719
A and USC were we're the draws. And I agree with that. I

783
00:51:15.039 --> 00:51:17.800
don't see how they do it.
But we're sitting here giving some wishful thank

784
00:51:17.800 --> 00:51:23.719
you. I don't know. I
don't know. Yeah, what's you gotta

785
00:51:23.719 --> 00:51:27.760
wait and see. Okay, hey, good show today. This is fun.

786
00:51:28.199 --> 00:51:30.119
Jim Moore, that was great.
He was He was a lot of

787
00:51:30.159 --> 00:51:32.239
fun. Dennis Dodd, national guy. Yeah, I'm going on a formative.

788
00:51:32.239 --> 00:51:35.280
Who we have tomorrow? You said
we have a couple. Yeah,

789
00:51:35.280 --> 00:51:38.840
we got Jake Fisher. Okay,
well he'll weigh in on whatever happens tonight.

790
00:51:38.880 --> 00:51:43.039
And then Damian Alameda, sports director
at k LD. It's been a

791
00:51:43.079 --> 00:51:45.960
long time since we've had him on. Always a great guy. Uh,

792
00:51:45.239 --> 00:51:49.039
always fun to have him on.
So those will be your guest tomorrow.

793
00:51:49.079 --> 00:51:52.239
We'll see how this thing is shaking
out by you know, by the timer

794
00:51:52.239 --> 00:51:53.320
show comes on tomorrow. I have
a good idea. What's up? Ye?

795
00:51:54.079 --> 00:51:58.119
Okay, thanks everybody, Thanks for
being here. Everybody listen to the podcast.