Hi, everyone, Welcome to the show. Unfortunately, this is not going
to be a live show. These are early reruns. Um. I say
plural reruns, because if you are a supporter of the show, you're going
to be hearing um both the hour one and hour two. Hour one will
be doctor Robert Farrell on his idea of possible propulsion of UFOs. It's it's
interesting. This is back in two thousand and twelve, May of twenty and
twelve when I recorded with him, and then in the second hour again,
if you're a supporter Stanton Friedman, it's the very first interview I did with
him of that same year, in March of twenty twelve. So I'm sorry.
I am on the road this week and there was just no way I
could get a prerecorded show with a guest. I had a cancelation and I
just couldn't make it happen. But anyway, we'll be back next week with
William Grobowtski. So for right now, our one here, doctor Robert Farrell.
Hi, everyone, I have doctor Robert Eve Farrell on Skype. How
you doing, doctor Farrell. I'm doing fine, Thank you, thanks for
joining us, and let's talk quickly about you have a new book that's out
and it's on the bestsellers list right. Well, actually I have three books
that made the bestseller list. The first two are novels. First one could
being Alien Log, the second one is Alien Log to the New World Order.
And then the third book is non fiction and that's the Science behind Alien
Encounters, and that just came out this year. I like the title of
that actually a lot, because I think I think science does not look at
UFOs and not too hard anyway as of yet. And you have some amazing
insight on how they propel themselves, which I guess is probably the number one
question that comes up. How do they get here? If they can,
if they're limited to light speed? How can they make a right angle turn
at two thousand miles an hour? And stuff like that. Can you explain
your your theories on that. Yeah. When I became a believer, which
was so long ago, I don't even remember, you know, I've always
believed that there had to be other life out there, just the vastness,
and astronomers are beginning to believe that there may be more planets in our galaxy
than there are stars, So certainly it makes sense, and I don't think
I've ever heard anyone argue lately that there isn't other life out there. And
given the range of life of stars, are our stars kind of in the
middle of its life. There's got to be stars with planets in the habitable
zone that are perhaps a billion years or more older than us. So therefore
there's got to be intelligence out there that's way beyond us in their technology,
and therefore would have craft that could be flying around and people report. So,
okay, I accept the fact that there's life out there and probably they
are visiting us. Then the question is how can they do some of these
things? And the hundred g acceleration and right angle turns really led me to
understand how they do that, because there's only one way they can do that,
in my opinion, There's only one way they could accelerate in one hundred
gs without damage to the vehicle or the occupants, and that is they're using
gravitational field propulsion. Because if you're using gravity field propulsion, whether it's a
negative field or a positive field, you are simply free falling into or away
from that field. It's analogous to jumping out of a plane if you were
in an airplane flying over Jupiter or some large planet that has let's say fifty
times the polar gravity, and you jump out of the plane. You're going
to free fall toward that planet, but you'll have no sensation of acceleration.
Just as our astronauts float in space when they do a spacewalk, they are
actually accelerating toward our planet at about one G. If they were circling some
other larger planet, it would be a higher G force. But yet they're
free falling. So if you have the ability to create this field that you
either fall into or fall away from, you just point the field in the
direction you want to go, and you accelerate in that direction, but you
don't even realize you're accelerating. And if you want to make a right angle
turn, you point the field at right angles and you you start free falling
in that direction. And I'm not claiming they make exactly right angle turns,
there's no evidence for that, but it's near right angle. It's certainly a
sharper turn than we can we can imagine our planes or our pilots surviving.
So the fact is that there's only one way they can propel themselves. That
way and that's with gravitational fields, and there's other evidence to support that,
and I can talk about that right now if you'd like, or we can.
Okay, um, well, let's see other evidence that they are using
gravitational fields, and more specifically negative gravitational fields. I've given over sixty lectures
on this object. And one of the slides that I show is two shots,
two photographs taken by the same photographer, maybe a minute apart or maybe
ten seconds apart, I don't know, but it's a UFO over a field
and it's cooking up dust. You can see the dusk being kicked up from
the field and underneath the craft in a circular area, there's a zone that
seems to be clear of the dust. Well, if you imagine that they
are creating a negative gravitational field, it would be expelling anything in that zone.
Is that negative fields giving the lift to the to the craft, but
it's also expelling everything underneath it, including air. So there's two shoes photographs
of that, and in both of them you can see this same event.
So if you now say, okay, maybe they use negative fields, what's
what other evidence is for that? Well, people who have UFOs fly over
their head low low over their head have often reported that they've had this feeling
of being pressed down well because of the negative field. Another thing that supports
that is there have been occasions where people have come upon a UFO or onto
the area where UFO had been seen hovering over a shallow body of water,
and when they got there, the body of water was frozen. So how
do they do that? Really? Yeah, well, if they have a
negative field under the craft. Because they're hovering low over this body of water,
I don't know, maybe a foot above the surface. All the air
is being expelled underneath them, creating a low pressure region. And you know
what happens to water when you lower the pressure, The water begins to evaporate
very fast. It might even start boiling. But the evaporation process carries heat
away from that body of water. That's the whole principle of evaporative cooling.
Eventually enough heat is taken away from that body of water that it freezes.
So that's again evidence that they have a negative field. Another possibility for negative
field would be the fact that they can travel thousands of miles an hour without
creating a shockwave. Right now, we create shockwaves with our aircraft because the
way we transmit this signal ahead of the plane to tell molecules to get out
of the way is through a pressure wave higher pressure, and that signal can
only travel at the speed of sound, no faster. So if the airplane
reaches the speed of sound, then it's not signaling advanced notice that it's coming,
and the air molecules crash up against the craft and create a shock wave.
But if you had a way to forewarn these molecules that you're coming and
give them enough time to get out of the way, a way to do
this using something that is faster than the speed of sound, like like a
gravitational fields. It's actually faster than talk about that later, but it's been
measured at being faster than the speed of light. But at any rate,
it's certainly fast enough that these molecules now have time to get out of the
way and you don't create a shock wave. And in fact, the air
flow around the craft is what aerodynamesis would refer to as a pure rotational flow.
Another way, it's very low drag, so not only do they not
create a shockway, but they don't really have as much drag on them as
our craft would have. So something has been measured. Has this been peer
reviewed? Over the speed of light? Well, that gets into another subject,
and I'd like to reserve that if I couldn't as far as the faster
than the speed of light, because if we want to discuss Eugene put Klutonoff's
research over in Finland where he's actually producing gravitational fields, and he's the one
that measured the speed of his negative pulse at sixty four c sixty four times
the speed of light. And I can't say that's been peer reviewed. He's
he's published, and in fact I think he's coming out with an article soon
in regards to his research. But he's been doing this research for years.
In fact, NASA and Boeing we're interested in it. And my understanding was
that NASA tried to duplicate his work, but because they weren't using superconductors of
the appropriate size, they weren't able to get good results. Now, one
of put Glenna's specialties is material science. That's what he develops a superconductors.
So he's developed in me a way of creating a relatively large ceramics superconductor that's
on the order of four inches in diameter and it will withstand up to thirty
thousand rpm rotation speed, and that's critical in his mind to create significant amount
of gravitational fields. But so he's the one that measured the sixty four s
and I have corresponded with him, and I asked him to describe how he
measured that, and he did tell me, but he asked me not to
elaborate because there was an article that was going to be coming out soon and
he didn't want to violate his deal with the publisher. Can you explain to
the lay person out there how someone might possibly create gravitational fields? Yeah,
when I'm going to start with the theory, and the theory goes all the
way back to Einstein. When he created his general theory of relativity, he
recognized that there was an interaction between electromagnetic fields and which is light, and
gravitational fields, and in fact, that allowed him to predict that a beam
of light from a star, for instance, when it passes the rim of
the Sun, would be bent because of this interaction. And he even predicted
that a star close to the rim would have its light bent by one point
seven five arc seconds. And that was back in nineteen fifteen, I think,
and in nineteen nineteen, Sir Arthur Eddington went on an expedition and during
the solar eclipse and actually proved Einstein to be correct. So the theory says
that there is this interaction between electromagnetic fields gravitational fields. In nineteen thirty four,
doctor Richard Tallman, who was a professor at cal Tech wrote a textbook
and it was called Relativity, Thermodynamics and Cosmology. And in that book he
spent several pages deriving a relationship and showed that a beam of light. Back
then they didn't have lasers, so he called it a pencil of light who
was actually twice as effective in creating a gravitational field as a particle of matter.
Recently, in twenty eleven December of twenty eleven, there was a paper
published by Lewis Rancourt entitled the Effects of Light on Gravitational Attraction, and he
did an experiment where he shot a beam of a laser beam passed a mass
that was suspended in a controlled environment, and he was able to detect the
fact that that laser light actually drew the mass toward it. So we had
a gravitational field attached to it, so if you were going to create a
gravitational field, you would look at how could you manipulate the electromagnetic fields.
And in fact, in my very first novel, Alien Log, my astrophysicist
is talking to his boss, who happened to be a colonel, and they're
involved in a project and they're standing next to a broken UFO and the colonel
asked, you know, how do they work? And Corey, the astrophysicist
is rubbing his hands over the surface of the craft and he says, well,
I think this is a superconducting material and there's a high high current flow
through here, and then they're somehow manipulating a magnetic field up through there and
somehow create that. He didn't know exactly because I don't know exactly, but
somehow creating a gravitational field. Now, there are other possible ways to do
this, and one of them was presented. I think it was around two
thousand and seven. Doctor Rajevnau and doctor Sandu co authored a paper that was
presented at the American Institute of Aeronautics and Astronautics, and that happened to be
a joint session with American Society Mechanical Engineers and the Society of Automotive Engineers and
also the Society of American Society of Electrical Engineers, and it was dealing with
propulsion, and they presented a paper that was per reviewed and talked about a
method for creating a craft that could be propelled by gravitational field. And what
they proposed was that if you could take and build some sections made out of
parallel plates that were reflective, and you could be a very high intense electromagnetic
field through those plates in other words, like a microwave for instance, and
as the beam bounce back and forth as reflected back and forth between these plates,
it would shed gravitons. Now, some people don't know what graviton is,
and in fact, people who study gravity are I'm sure how gravity?
You know, what makes gravity? No one really knows yet that gravitons is
just one one theory that there are gravitons that exchange forced. So, anyway,
if you believe gravitons is what creates gravitational fields, then as these photons
are bouncing back and forth, they're shedding gravitons, creating a gravitational field.
And so by assembling a number of these plates and then staging. When you
turn them different ones on, you can kind of control the direction of the
forest in the direction that you travel with this craft. And that gets into
another question, and that is why do UFOs have different colors? People see
them glowing this color and glowing that color or not glowing at all. And
if you follow the theory I just described, as these photons are bouncing back
and forth st in gravitons, they're losing energy, and eventually they get to
the point where the inefficiency shows up as a radiation of photons from the surface
of these plates, and it would be a whole spectrum, but it would
depend a lot on the energy level that the craft is operating at. So,
for instance, if the craft is hovering over the ground, not doing
anything, just sitting there hovering, it would be running in a lower energy
level and the radiation might be in the form of infrared, although there are
sporadically sometimes when higher energy particles might be released. So you don't want to
go up in touch one of these things when it's running, and you don't
want to stand next to when very long, or you might die from radiation
poisoning. But generally it would be sitting there and you wouldn't see it because
it's in the infrared. But if it suddenly decides to take off and accelerate,
then of course it requires a higher energy, and it would shed a
waste energy higher energy level and hires a level of the spectrum more toward the
visual and the color might depend again on the energy level, and so would
the intensity. So if they're accelerating, they might be very bright. If
they're going very fast in the atmosphere where they have a resistance, they might
be very bright. If on the other hand, they're going slow, they
wouldn't be quite as bright. They might be a different color. Now,
what would you if you had to guess? What would I mean? It
seems like would be electricity of some sort that would power something like this.
What would be what would be your guests on that? Well, I have
a bucket list of things that I want to research, and their energy sources
is on that list. So the only thing I might mention this thing called
zero point energy that people discuss and people are researching that. Eugene put glettonoff
in his research that he's been doing, and when he reports his results.
One of the things that's kind of astounding this pulse, of of this gravity
pulse that he's able to produce out of this pulse generator. UM has some
very interesting things about it. That number one to travel sixty four times in
speed of light. Number two he's determined that it's interaction with the surroundings,
UH requires more energy than the energy he puts into his device. So the
question is, well, where's all the energy coming from? Now? He
is an experimentalist and not a theorist, as he's especially especially in his material
science, so he doesn't know. I mean, he's perplexed too. He
suspects it possibly, UH, this this gravitational wave is somehow causing subatomic particles
to release energy. And this might be i e. Zero point energy.
I don't know, but it might be that kind of energy source that's being
used. Because you know, whatever they do, however fast they go or
far they go, it's going to take energy. Where does it come from?
And I don't know? And that's like I said in my bucket list.
If UFOs have crashed in the past, and it's they've been covered up
as far as like the government, the military reversing engineering them or attempting to
would you think they already have this information that doctor Puck can't say his name,
but pud Clutnoff. I know he's a Russian, but but it's pod
k l e t nlv pud Cletoff. Do you think they already have this
information or something very close to it. Well, I would be surprised if
they don't. Number one, he's been approached by Bowing aircraft years ago and
my NASA, And as I said, NASA has already done some experiments,
but because they didn't have the proper size equipped but they end money, they
abandoned the research. Maybe they pass it on to the DoD. I don't
know, but the potential is so great that I would imagine that the military
or DoD or somebody has knowledge about it. Now, you could hand the
blueprints to a seven forty seven to the right, brothers, that doesn't mean
they could build seven forty seven. And there may be some technology that we
haven't quite learned yet, like nanotechnology that might be required to assemble some of
the components that we just don't have that technology yet, and that might be
one reason why maybe they haven't succeeded in creating a UFO. On the other
hand, maybe they have. Some people think that a lot of the UFOs
we see are actually our own craft, right right. One thing you always
hear a skeptic person say is if they can travel so many light years to
get here, then how could they poss crash what you know here on Earth?
What do you say about that? Well, I think there's maybe several
reasons why they crash. But in general, if they are creating a gravitational
field as a means of propulsion, and they're using electromagnetic fields as a means
of producing that gravitational field, then a strong beam of electromagnetic energy could probably
disrupt their propulsion system. Now, radar happens to be a candidate for that,
and as a matter of fact, the military actually developed a weapon called
the electromagnetic pulse beam weapon, which was designed to beam at aircraft and disable
their electronics. So certainly something like that could do it. But a lot
of the crashes have occurred in areas where a lot of research was being done
in high powered radar, at least in the past. The craft my storyline
in my novels is based on a crash in Kingman, Arizona that occurred in
nineteen fifty three and they didn't have high powered radar at that time in that
area. They weren't doing research in it any way, because I thought,
well, maybe they were developing gradar for the Dow line or something. But
it turns out that didn't seem to be the case. Now, that crash
I attribute to the craft being too close to an atomic explosion, because I
gotta believe when we started doing all these atomic tests out in Nevada, but
they had craft stationed there to monitor those tests. I mean I would they
certainly would be curious about how we're doing in this and what kind of development
we're making. And I have a scenario that I described in the prologue of
my second book that UFO may have been there monitoring that the nuclear test that
was set off in nineteenth of May nineteen fifty three. It became known as
Dirty Harry by the way, but that craft got too close, was mortally
wounded, but managed to make it over to the Kingman area before it crashed.
Now that's my hypothesis. So that's another reason they might crash. And
sometimes they maybe christ because we shoot him down or something. I don't know
right. The theory here of the gravitational propulsion. Does it matter how much
the object ways that is being propelled, No, So in theory, then
this could be something that could be used on an asteroid that's heading our way
possibly. Well, one of the things Bud cluttonoff suggested. Now, he
certainly doesn't want his research and equipment to be used for military use, but
he did say this beam that he can produce, which is just for it's
a pulse Okay, it's a very short duration of pulse, but strong enough.
He's actually been able to deflect a two inch thick metal plate through a
distance of several kilometers and it passes through buildings and so forth. But he
was suggesting that perhaps a pulse beam like this could be aimed at a satellite
to move it to a higher orbit, okay, or maybe to disable it.
I don't know. So it does have weapons possibilities, which which he
really doesn't want to have happened. That's uh, you know, that's could
be one of the reasons why there's been such a cover up over the years
is because of the threat of national defense that these things could be used against
us. Yeah. One thing I talk about a lot in this show is
one of the theories that people think that UFOs could possibly be interdimensional? What's
your what's your take on that? Well, you have to understand my mission
is to try and convince lay people that UFOs and ets are a reality.
And these people are skeptical at best, and they certainly would not go into
a bookstore and buy a book on UFOs, which is why I opted to
use the science fiction format. But in my lecture and in my books,
I very carefully avoid wormholes, multidimensions, and things like that. I'm not
saying they aren't true, because I couldn't prove whether they are or not.
But I try to explain in a manner that's a nuts and bolts manner that
anyone who's had high school physics or high school science could understand. And if
I can explain all the phenomena of the people see UFOs do using just traditional
science, then they don't have to worry about inter dimensional travel and things like
that. How about when people have said they've seen them appear and disappear,
Well, they're cloaking themselves. And I explained that in my lectures and in
my book, and one possible way they could do that, just like the
Klingons. Of course, is they have a very strong magnetic field around them.
And there's testimony to that that they do have a very strong magnetic field.
Well, there was some work done. Actually, a paper was published
by doctor Thomas Herbert from the Illinois Institute of Technology. It was back in
nineteen sixty one and he published it in the British Journal of Nature. For
so if any of your listeners want to research that, they have to go
to the British version of the Journal of Nature. And his paper was called
the Velocity of Light in a Magnetic Field, and this was back in sixty
one. He was interested interested in seeing what the effect of a magnetic field
had on the velocity of light, and he actually developed the empirical equation based
on his studies, and the equations would report the index of refraction as a
function of the the magnetic field strength. Now, index of refraction is the
velocity of light in a vacuum, divided by the velocity of light as it
passes through a substance like a piece of glass or water or whatever. And
you know glass has an index of refraction close to two, so that means
the light is only traveling half as past as it does in a vacuum.
Well, anyway, so if you plot this, you see that it was
a very strong magnetic field. You can create an index of refraction much greater
than two, or even a little less than two, it doesn't matter,
but it's enough that you can imagine it's creating a lens. And this lens
then is taking the light from behind the craft and bending it around so it
comes out on the front side of the craft, and the person looking at
the craft doesn't see the craft. It's gone, it's been cloaked. I
think that I've read somewhere where the military is trying to perfect something like this.
Yeah, it's a little less sophisticated. They're using um, I think
like miniature TV cameras, if you will, and screens on a suit,
and maybe cameras on the back of the suit and cameras on the back of
the suitor are taking a look at what's behind the person and then projecting it
onto the screens in front of the person. So you who are looking at
the person don't see the person. It's like they disappear. So it's like,
I say, so many angles to worry about in something. Well,
yeah, I mean I probably simplified it a little bit, But I mean
that's the concept I think they're working on, and I don't. And by
the way, the magnetic field required to do anything significant is very large.
Probably even to get a sufficient distortion equivalent to what you would see on a
hot summer day from the heat cries off the road would require magnetic fields.
They're probably equal to are a little greater than our strongest fields that we've produced
so far. But I'm not putting limits on the capabilities of you opposed to
create a strong magnetic field. If they can do that, then they could
choose that. Now, there may be other means. I couldn't find any
research done on the same thing as far as the effect of electric fields.
You know, electric fields might also do the same thing, but certainly magnetic
fields could be one possible way that they cloaked themselves. So they cloaked themselves
in one location, move over to another location, and then reappear. Now
people say, oh, that's interdimensional travel. Well I can't say it isn't,
but I can explain it in a way that doesn't require international interdimensional travel.
One thing in your books, you discuss the alternative to the Big Bang
theory. Yes, I really want to talk about that, because that's always
been a really tough one for me to swallow. I'm not a scientist,
but what is your take on the Big Bang theory. I think the Big
Bang theory is wrong, and it's to put it simply, it's a it's
a misinterpretation of the data. It's interesting. Well, just last week I
gave for the first time a new lecture that I've developed. It's called How
the Universe Began Without a Big Bang, and it's a two hour lecture.
It's power point. The first part is a history of the astronomy and the
astronomers and their machines that they used together data going all the way back to
Copernicus and up to present time. So I go through and talk a little
bit about each of these astronomers and the equipment they used and the results that
they got and the tools that they developed. And then the second part is
talking about the Big Bang and as a way of interpreting all the data that's
been accumulated. And then the third part is to talk about a better theory
in my opinion, that is much better than the Big Bang theory. It
uses the same data but doesn't violate all the fundamental laws of physics that the
Big Bang theory violates, and I'd be glad to explain that theory if you'd
like, yes, would you? Okay? Well, if we start way
back in around nineteen twenty eight, a gentleman by the name of Paul Derek.
He was a physicist, an English physicist, and Paul Derrek mathematically proved
that a particle should have antiparticles, and so then in nineteen thirty he proposed
that the vacuum of space was actually a sea of electrons that were counteracted by
a sea of holes because the charge of the universe had to be neutral.
Later that was revised so that these holes were positive particles, and initially he
thought maybe they were protons, but then the mass of the proton was too
great to explain things. So it was worked out that there was a particle
of equal mass to the electron, but off as a charge, and that
led to the discovery of the positron, and it led to a direct getting
a Nobel Prize in nineteen thirty three. So if you imagine then this concept
of a sea of stuff, and that's the basis of this theory. By
the way, I did not invent this theory. I subscribe wholeheartedly to it.
And it turns out one of my friends here in Sun City, West
actually developed the theory, and I'm now his disciple, you might say,
But anyway, so it was I was always trained to avoid singularities throughout my
math courses and engineering courses. You know, whatever you do, avoid the
singularity. And here the Big Banks starts off into singularity. So that that
turned me off right off the bat. Another thing that is a clue that
the Big Bang theory might be wrong is the interpretation of the data that they
have, and this is the data is good. The data says that the
further way a galactic cluster is from us, the faster it's traveling, and
they Big Bang theres are forced to interpret that as acceleration. And of course,
if you have acceleration, you need a force to create that, and
therefore you need energy to create the force, and therefore you need to go
find dark energy. Well, guess what, they haven't found it. So
that's certainly a clue that maybe they're on their own track. So those are
a couple of things that make me believe that they're wrong. And Bobby McGehee
is the one who developed historian. I hope someday he gets some kind of
an award for it. If you start off with the idea that it's much
easier to imagine that the universe began with all the matter in place on Day
one in a different form, and that form is such that that matter can
be created, can be converted into energy, because to create the universe required
a lot of energy. The universe as we see it, okay, And
the most energetic thing we can think of is to have mass annihilation, because
when you have too like an electron and a positron come together, you annihilate
the total mass and create photons in the form of gamma rays. So Bobby
imagines that the primordial universe, which extends out to infinity, is a three
dimensional matrix, if you would, or a lattice work, and at the
lattice points are positronium atoms. Positronium exists, they've been detected. What they
are is a very simple atom that's an electron orbiting a common center with a
positron, and they both have the same mass or the centers in between,
and they're spending fast enough that to some typical force keeps them away, and
there's also electric charges and electrical forces that counterbalance, and so they are in
this matrix locked in with all these kazilion other positroniums in a stable arrangement.
The primordial universe is absolute zero or near absolute zero, and it's a very
stable system. Because normally positroniums are not stable. They tend to annihilate each
other in just a fraction of a second and become photons. So in our
laboratory they're not very stable. But he visualizes that perhaps in the primordial universe
it would be a stable structure. So if you go back about twenty four
to thirty billion years ago, in his estimate, you could say, the
finger of God disrupted one of these positroniums and it annihilated, releasing two gamma
rays, which in turn hit two other positroniums, releasing four gamma rays and
so on. So you can imagine you now have a chain reaction that's occurring,
and this explosion, if you want to call it, that is expanding
at the speed of light or near the speed of light, and that he
calls it a deflagration wave. So within this wave, it's expanding out where
it near the speed of light. There are various stages of events that are
occurring throughout the thickness of this deflagration wave, and he estimates the thickness to
be two and a half billion light years, so the lock can happen within
that time frame. But on the outer front of this deflagration wave, of
course, photons and the form of gamma rays are being shot out and causing
the chain reaction to continue behind the wave. Eventually the photons are converted back
into particles subatomic particles, and then eventually atoms, and then eventually molecules,
and then eventually particles that glomerate and form heavier particles. Now these particles and
are traveling at near light speeds, so they are gravitationally enhanced according to relativity,
which causes the attraction to be even greater between these particles causes them to
agglomerate faster. Eventually you get dust and gas that's formed mostly hydrogen, some
helium, and there are pockets where gravity is a little stronger than others,
so the dust and gas begin to collapse and form stars, and eventually out
of those galaxies form and clusters forms. So that's all occurring on this side
of that deflagration wave. It's speeding onward. Even as we speak. It's
way out there going on doing its thing. But what's happening inside and behind
on our side of this wave because of the mixine that's occurring when these particles
clyde, they make Clyde off center and they start spinning. And because you
know, you've seen pictures of galaxies that are spinning, and a lot of
things are spinning. What's happening is the linear momentum that's originally at the wavefront
of these initial particles that are being created is being converted to angular momentum.
What that means is the linear momentum is decreasing as the angular momentum goes up.
Therefore, the velocity in a linear direction is decreasing. So the closer
into us that we look at things, the slower they're moving. And wouldn't
you know, that's exactly what the data says. And a good analogy that
Bobby gives in that respect. First of all, as far as the deflagration
wave is, if you if you have a room filled with methane and air,
and because you want you don't want to be in that room, you're
standing outside and you're looking through this thick glass window with a camera, a
high speed camera, and you set off a spark in the middle of the
room. You can imagine what that high speed film camera will show you.
It'll be like an explosion and expanding out where it is. This bubble that's
growing and it's very bright because it's rating energy that's continuing the explosion process.
And what's really happening is the molecules that were methane and oxygen and nitrogen are
being converted into a different form like carbon, soot and whatever behind that deflagration
wave and being left behind. There's a lot of turbulence in the wake of
this. So that's kind of how the universe grew. But keep in mind
that the total mass of the room doesn't change. It's just converted from one
form to another. And the same thing is with the universe. The total
mass of the universe was already determined by this matrix that extends out to infinity.
So all that happens during this deflagration wave is a conversion from one form
of matter into another. One other analogy that he gives because it's so good
that I have to give it. I imagine you're standing on a corner,
okay, and a potato truck drives by. Now, when was the last
time you had a potato truck drive by? Anyway, he picked a potato
truck and he drives by, and you know, the potatoes are falling off
the back that truck and it's beatyond down the road thirty miles an hour,
and it's dropping potatoes as it goes. So you have to happen to have
a radar gun in your pocket, you know, you always carry one of
those, and you whip it out and you take some data. You look
at the potatoes just up the road little ways and record the speed versus distance,
and then you keep recording data and finally you get to the ones that
are just fallen off the truck and you're write that down, you know,
thirty miles an hour and there's six blocks away, and then you plot this
data, okay, and the data shows that the further out the potatoes are,
the faster they're going. Now you don't say these are potatoes. You
just plot the data and you hand it to someone and you say what do
you think of that? And they're gonna say, wow, whatever, it's
happening there it looks like it's accelerating. Well, you and I know it's
not. It's decelerating as linear momentum is being transferred into angulablementum as potatoes start
to tumble. So that's a good analogy. Yes, very good. Well
we're just about out of time. A couple of quick questions. First of
all, where can someone find your book? They can find all of my
books on Amazon or Barnes and Noble, or they can go to a bookstore
and order them. They're all available as paper books or ebooks. Or they
can go to my website which is www dot alien log that's one word,
alien log dot com and they can read about my books a little bit.
And also there's a button they can push to find out where they can buy
the books and take them. It links them right to Amazon if they click
the Amazon button, right to the place where the book is. Or they
can go to Barnes and Noble, or they can download an order for them
if they want an autograph copy and mail that to me and I will sign
the book and send it off to them. Great, And do you have
any future projects lined up? Yes, I'm working on alien Log three and
the title is Alien Log three, the Dulce Affair and for people who are
in the know as far as uphology, that conjures up some bad stuff.
The Dulce Affair, but is based on stories about the Dulce Bass in Dulce,
New Mexico and supposedly an underground base where our military is working with ets,
bad ets to do bad things, and my characters get involved in that.
I saw a show on UFO Hunters about that, and when I spoke
to Bill Burns, he told me that that was one of the freak gift
situations that he had ever got involved in. Yes, a lot of my
research and a lot of my data, if you will, comes from a
book called UFO Highways by Anthony Sanchez, and the first half of his book
is an interview with Colonel X, who was there, but of courses remaining
anonymous because he's got firsthand knowledge and if he starts talking about it and then
they know who he is, he will somehow manage to die. That's where
I'm getting a lot of by information. And you know, I'm writing science
fiction, so if you know, I'm not trying to take liberties because I
pride myself and being very accurate in what I say to the extent that the
information that my characters give out is I give references in the back of these
science fiction books, which is unusual, so they by chapter you can actually
research what my character has said before we go. Just just one more question
comes to mind here, and that has to do with skeptics that constantly say,
how could they possibly be visiting us here when the nearest star is four
and a half light years away? What's your what's your theory on that?
Well, the key to that is the ability to accelerat at very high rates.
And UFOs have been clocked with radar and other means of as accelerating at
a one hundred gs. That doesn't mean they're limited to that rate. But
if we could build a craft that could accelerate at one hundred GE's, you
get to very high velocities very quickly, and relativity kicks in as you approached
the speed of light. Betty and Barney Hill had abductors that supposedly, it
was determined later came from Zey to one and to Reticuli, and that's a
system that's about forty light years away. Well, if you had this craft
I described, get accelerated one hundred g's, you would be there in less
than one month, according to the calendar on your vehicle. Now that's in
the instant acceleration. Of constant acceleration one hundred g's, your calendar would say
you got there in one month. And of course the unfortunate thing is if
you turn around and come back to you two months later, the world would
have sped ahead about eighty years, you know. So that's one of the
problems, but that's one of the way. That's how you do time travel.
Yeah, yeah, well that's interesting. Well, thanks so much.
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