WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.120 --> 00:00:03.319 I heard this gralish grunt. I was like, what in the world was 2 00:00:03.359 --> 00:00:06.200 that. I looked down and I looked back up and I seen it leaning 3 00:00:06.240 --> 00:00:09.839 in and out, and I was like, oh my god, I still 4 00:00:10.000 --> 00:00:13.279 have nightmared and think about it and stuff. Just looking at that thing. 5 00:00:13.320 --> 00:00:17.320 I had sure fear over me. After I snagged that picture of this thing, 6 00:00:17.440 --> 00:00:21.120 my phone died. It just died out of nowhere, and sure enough, 7 00:00:21.199 --> 00:00:24.320 that thing just turned around and it went on the ridge there. I 8 00:00:24.320 --> 00:00:28.000 mean, it was definitely a scary, eerie experience. I just sat there 9 00:00:28.079 --> 00:00:30.800 and just shunk in this the leaf that I had actually, you know, 10 00:00:31.199 --> 00:00:34.479 seen one. I think that that thing wanted me to see it. So 11 00:00:34.560 --> 00:00:38.759 I went over and sat down. I just struck up conversation. Y'all ever 12 00:00:38.880 --> 00:00:44.280 seen or heard anything that's not supposed to be here? And they just got 13 00:00:44.359 --> 00:00:47.159 quiet, and I was like, what did you see? And I was 14 00:00:47.320 --> 00:00:51.159 like this, and I showed them the picture and I showed them the tracks. 15 00:00:51.240 --> 00:00:54.359 I let them listen to the audio that I got. They got They 16 00:00:54.359 --> 00:00:57.240 got real quiet and they just looked at each other and they said, that's 17 00:00:57.240 --> 00:01:00.159 a that's a devil monk. I said, so that's a Bigfoot and they 18 00:01:00.159 --> 00:01:03.519 said Mountain Giant. It's all the same thing, just passed down from generation 19 00:01:03.719 --> 00:01:44.200 generation, but they call them a devil monkey. This is Bigfoot Crossroads. 20 00:01:44.519 --> 00:01:49.959 My name is Matt and I am joined by Harley Owens. Harley emailed me 21 00:01:49.159 --> 00:01:57.599 with quite the story of an encounter, and unlike some people out there, 22 00:01:57.239 --> 00:02:02.159 which no fault of their own, but Harley actually had some photographs to kind 23 00:02:02.200 --> 00:02:07.760 of support his story. I found it really interesting. I'm glad to have 24 00:02:07.879 --> 00:02:13.199 him on. Harley. How you doing, man, I'm doing extremely well, 25 00:02:13.199 --> 00:02:17.840 Matt. Yeah. I mean if you'd have told me that three years 26 00:02:17.919 --> 00:02:25.159 after a preacher that I didn't think for a reality and me now being out 27 00:02:25.159 --> 00:02:30.599 in the field researching for these things, I probably would have told you you 28 00:02:30.759 --> 00:02:34.360 were crazy. But you know, sure enough, here here I am three 29 00:02:34.439 --> 00:02:38.840 years later after this counter and I'm out here looking for him. So it's 30 00:02:38.919 --> 00:02:43.439 definitely it's definitely had a big impact on my life. And you know, 31 00:02:43.639 --> 00:02:46.280 first thinking about it, I was kind of scared at first, you know, 32 00:02:46.479 --> 00:02:53.400 but I'll save those details for talking about it. But it's definitely an 33 00:02:53.400 --> 00:02:57.800 interesting story and there's been a lot of people support me from my encounter. 34 00:02:58.639 --> 00:03:02.719 It's really remarked, I mean, because I know if I didn't collect evidence 35 00:03:02.840 --> 00:03:08.159 to say to have my back for what I mean, I would have been 36 00:03:08.240 --> 00:03:12.840 ridiculed like no other. But I still got that anyway. But you know, 37 00:03:13.120 --> 00:03:15.400 it's just human nature. Yeah, that's just part of the ballgame. 38 00:03:15.439 --> 00:03:20.919 I mean, if you are willing to put yourself out in the public eye 39 00:03:21.560 --> 00:03:24.840 with your story, there's gonna be people that support it. There's going to 40 00:03:24.879 --> 00:03:30.120 be people that understand it because they've experienced similar things, and then there's going 41 00:03:30.199 --> 00:03:32.280 to be a whole slew of people that are just going to try to tear 42 00:03:32.319 --> 00:03:36.840 it apart just for the sake of tearing it apart. Oh. Absolutely, 43 00:03:36.960 --> 00:03:42.199 absolutely. It's kind of baffling to me why people find so much joy and 44 00:03:42.360 --> 00:03:46.879 entertainment out of just doing that to others. But I mean that's the way 45 00:03:46.919 --> 00:03:50.639 it is. I don't mind people asking questions. I ask questions, oh 46 00:03:50.680 --> 00:03:54.000 absolutely, you know, but just to go after somebody and attack them just 47 00:03:54.000 --> 00:03:58.360 for the sake of attacking them, it's just kind of ridiculous. Man. 48 00:03:58.439 --> 00:04:03.240 So oh yeah, what made you take that leap of faith and finally publicly 49 00:04:03.280 --> 00:04:09.919 tell your story. Well, because one of the big things for me was 50 00:04:10.240 --> 00:04:14.280 you know if I'm going through what I was going through, being ridiculed by 51 00:04:14.280 --> 00:04:17.560 my friends and family, not really having any friends after my encounter because I 52 00:04:18.120 --> 00:04:24.879 quote unquote crazy, or it's just a shadow, or those are bear tracks, 53 00:04:25.079 --> 00:04:28.279 or those are coyotes, or even elk. I got people tell me 54 00:04:28.319 --> 00:04:33.360 the recordings that I captured were ELK. I knew instantly what I was looking 55 00:04:33.399 --> 00:04:39.120 at when I seen it. I knew it wasn't a bear, and I 56 00:04:39.240 --> 00:04:43.759 just I knew that if I was going through this, somebody else in this 57 00:04:43.879 --> 00:04:47.800 world has seen one of these creeks have never talked about it, sure, 58 00:04:47.959 --> 00:04:50.800 because I mean that was that was me. I mean, I was just 59 00:04:50.800 --> 00:04:55.879 gonna keep it sheltered up inside of me, you know. And then I 60 00:04:56.040 --> 00:04:59.920 was like, well, I've gotta tell it. I've gotta tell it. 61 00:05:00.199 --> 00:05:04.839 I mean, maybe about my encounter will lead to somebody else sharing theirs. 62 00:05:05.319 --> 00:05:09.199 Well, let's get into it. For anybody that hasn't heard your story, 63 00:05:10.360 --> 00:05:13.480 if you don't mind, just kind of walk us through it from the beginning 64 00:05:13.519 --> 00:05:17.480 what you experienced. Oh yeah, sir, absolutely, So It's happened in 65 00:05:17.519 --> 00:05:23.839 September of twenty twenty. I was working for an auction company at the time, 66 00:05:24.199 --> 00:05:29.800 he traveled around tearing out old sawmills and stuff, and we auctioned them 67 00:05:29.839 --> 00:05:32.519 off, all the equipment and the hand tools and all that stuff. And 68 00:05:33.279 --> 00:05:38.879 we were up there for two weeks. The week before it was me and 69 00:05:38.920 --> 00:05:43.639 some other boys, and then the week after by myself, and that's when 70 00:05:43.680 --> 00:05:46.720 I actually had the encounter and such. But I remember the week before we 71 00:05:46.759 --> 00:05:50.480 got up there and we with the owner of the mill and stuff, and 72 00:05:50.519 --> 00:05:55.839 we talked with him and he was telling us about this bear that was getting 73 00:05:55.839 --> 00:06:01.720 into the dumpsters, shout and just in the place. And and then I 74 00:06:01.759 --> 00:06:03.839 was like, yeah, is he pretty good sized bear? And he's like, 75 00:06:04.920 --> 00:06:09.839 he's pretty good sized, and he said, but there's far worse things 76 00:06:10.319 --> 00:06:15.360 than him in these mountains. He said, yeah, there's aches, coyotes 77 00:06:15.399 --> 00:06:17.079 and all the other natural wildlife, you know, but he said there's far 78 00:06:17.160 --> 00:06:20.759 worse things in these mountains, and that that's what really really stuck with me. 79 00:06:20.839 --> 00:06:23.879 You know. I was like, what's what's worse than that? And 80 00:06:23.920 --> 00:06:28.240 I mean I instantly joked around in my mind like black panthers or something. 81 00:06:29.319 --> 00:06:32.839 So going going on to the rest of that week there, nothing really happened 82 00:06:32.839 --> 00:06:35.639 with me and the other guys were there and the auction was on Saturday, 83 00:06:36.800 --> 00:06:41.279 and the boss came up to me. He said, well, can you 84 00:06:41.279 --> 00:06:43.360 stay up here next week? He said, I want to send these guys 85 00:06:43.360 --> 00:06:45.959 somewhere else again another auction work ready. I was like, yeah, I'll 86 00:06:46.000 --> 00:06:50.360 stay here that next day. It was a Sunday. I went out and 87 00:06:50.439 --> 00:06:54.160 it was raining and stuff. I wasn't going to sit in a hotel all 88 00:06:54.240 --> 00:06:56.360 day. I was just gonna go out there and sit make sure nobody was 89 00:06:56.399 --> 00:07:00.319 coming in there and stealing stuff. But I got very and I was just 90 00:07:00.360 --> 00:07:03.720 walking around the wood line there and where where it was raining. I could 91 00:07:03.759 --> 00:07:09.199 see a couple of the tracks me. I was like, man, look 92 00:07:09.279 --> 00:07:13.199 the looks human. And then I joked in my mind that's big foot and 93 00:07:15.720 --> 00:07:19.879 not even it's see Monday, nothing happened. It was Tuesday, nothing happened. 94 00:07:20.279 --> 00:07:26.519 Wednesday came around. Uh. There was a guy in there that morning 95 00:07:26.759 --> 00:07:29.879 and I helped him load up a couple of things in the pallets and stuff 96 00:07:29.920 --> 00:07:33.920 that he got. And I was taking me a lunch break and I went 97 00:07:33.959 --> 00:07:38.600 over to the service truck and I grabbed my Coca cola and the sandwich, 98 00:07:38.639 --> 00:07:43.000 and as I heard this Gralish grunt. I was like, what in the 99 00:07:43.040 --> 00:07:46.759 world was that. I looked towards the wood line. Nothing, and I 100 00:07:46.800 --> 00:07:49.279 looked up on the ridge because it's where the saw mill was. Was a 101 00:07:49.279 --> 00:07:55.800 flat and there's a cliff back in the valley where the cliff goes up. 102 00:07:56.160 --> 00:07:58.879 I seen a flash of black going across the cliff. I was like, 103 00:07:59.360 --> 00:08:01.839 what's that A bear? I looked down and I looked back up and I 104 00:08:01.920 --> 00:08:05.560 seen it leaning in and out and I was like, oh my god, 105 00:08:07.600 --> 00:08:11.040 I'm not seeing this. I was like, that's a bigfoot. These things 106 00:08:11.079 --> 00:08:16.319 are real. People aren't crazy. And the only thing that I knew of 107 00:08:16.480 --> 00:08:18.160 to do was a snap of picture, because I was like, as sure 108 00:08:18.199 --> 00:08:22.079 as I don't snag a picture of this thing, it's going to be gone 109 00:08:22.680 --> 00:08:28.160 and I'll never have any proof to show that I've seen what I seen. 110 00:08:28.199 --> 00:08:33.840 And I mean it was it was it. I still have nightmares and think 111 00:08:33.879 --> 00:08:37.799 about it and stuff. I ain't it. It's just looking at that thing. 112 00:08:37.840 --> 00:08:43.200 I had just pure fear over me. And after I snagged that picture 113 00:08:43.240 --> 00:08:46.320 of this thing my phone. There was a brand new phone at the time, 114 00:08:46.320 --> 00:08:50.320 I believe it was an iPhone eight plus, and it just died. 115 00:08:50.440 --> 00:08:54.360 I had seventy something percent battery because I'd been keeping it on charge and a 116 00:08:54.399 --> 00:08:58.440 truck and I got it in a Caboda skitster that I was in, plain 117 00:08:58.519 --> 00:09:03.240 bluetooth and stuff. And it just died out of nowhere, and I sitting 118 00:09:03.279 --> 00:09:07.559 there, still walking, staying close to the truck just in case I had 119 00:09:07.559 --> 00:09:11.759 to go, you know, and sure enough, that thing just turned around 120 00:09:11.759 --> 00:09:16.320 and it went on the ridge there. I mean it it was probably one 121 00:09:16.360 --> 00:09:18.120 hundred yards away. I mean it wasn't real close. I mean I assumed 122 00:09:18.840 --> 00:09:24.919 I could to get the picture, but it was definitely a scary, eerie 123 00:09:24.960 --> 00:09:28.600 experience because I mean that thing was leaning out and looking at me. I 124 00:09:28.639 --> 00:09:33.240 mean, it wasn't a bear. This thing was super intelligent. I mean 125 00:09:33.279 --> 00:09:35.559 that thing was I'd say it was easily over seven foot. I mean it 126 00:09:35.759 --> 00:09:39.799 was just to be as far away as it wasn't so how big. I 127 00:09:39.840 --> 00:09:43.080 mean, the really thing that stuck with me was the sheer width of it. 128 00:09:43.080 --> 00:09:46.720 I mean that thing was four by eight. She'd apply wood and it 129 00:09:46.399 --> 00:09:52.000 was it just turned around, walked away, and then I just sat there 130 00:09:52.039 --> 00:09:56.120 and just shunk and just the leaf that I had actually, you know, 131 00:09:56.440 --> 00:10:01.200 seen one and that it aumatized in. I was just like, nobody's ever 132 00:10:01.240 --> 00:10:05.399 going to believe me. I just when my phone came back, looked and 133 00:10:05.440 --> 00:10:09.279 then sure enough I had had the picture and I just sat there and looked 134 00:10:09.279 --> 00:10:13.279 at it and I was like, that's amazing. Later on that evening came 135 00:10:15.039 --> 00:10:18.639 and that's when I started to get the vocalizations. Let me tell you, 136 00:10:20.600 --> 00:10:24.240 they will send hills down your spine. What kind of vocalizations did you hear? 137 00:10:24.679 --> 00:10:30.600 For long drawn out howls and whoops? Could you tell if there was 138 00:10:30.639 --> 00:10:35.840 more than one? Uh? At the time, I wasn't thinking about it. 139 00:10:35.960 --> 00:10:39.879 There was more than one because of that clos But I actually had the 140 00:10:39.960 --> 00:10:50.320 audio sent off and some people determined that there was more individual and I had 141 00:10:50.360 --> 00:10:56.519 a spectrogram done of the audio, and these things made a vocalization all the 142 00:10:56.559 --> 00:11:01.360 way up to two thousand hurts. Wow, if you don't mind me asking, 143 00:11:01.480 --> 00:11:07.679 could you say who did the analysis on the audio for you? Tinsley? 144 00:11:07.840 --> 00:11:13.919 He done the spectrogram of the audio. You're there by yourself, You're 145 00:11:13.960 --> 00:11:18.159 just there on a work trip. Now you've had your whole world rocked. 146 00:11:18.399 --> 00:11:22.639 Yeah, what kind of thoughts were you having after the fact, Like, 147 00:11:22.840 --> 00:11:28.960 after the events over and everything. Maybe on your way back home, how 148 00:11:28.039 --> 00:11:37.200 did you process it? I just I went to the hotel and I just 149 00:11:37.399 --> 00:11:43.440 sat there and looked at the picture and I just kept looking just kept looking 150 00:11:43.519 --> 00:11:46.399 at it, I mean, and then I just kept just thinking about it, 151 00:11:46.399 --> 00:11:48.960 because I mean, that thing, if it wanted to, it easily 152 00:11:50.000 --> 00:11:52.399 could have just came down here and grabbed me up. And I've never been 153 00:11:52.440 --> 00:11:56.600 seen again. But if that creature didn't want me to know it was there, 154 00:11:56.879 --> 00:12:01.679 it would have made those noises. I mean, I think that that 155 00:12:01.799 --> 00:12:05.639 thing wanted me to see it. It was letting me know that, hey, 156 00:12:05.679 --> 00:12:09.120 this is where I live. You know, you stay where you're at 157 00:12:09.240 --> 00:12:13.840 and you'll be cool. I think it's interesting that nothing happened until after you, 158 00:12:13.879 --> 00:12:18.919 after everybody left, and you were there by yourself. Well, and 159 00:12:20.080 --> 00:12:22.600 I mean, yeah, that's that's one thing that people have told me, 160 00:12:22.799 --> 00:12:31.440 you know, And I believe that these creatures can since your intentions or whatnot. 161 00:12:31.600 --> 00:12:35.360 But I mean, yeah, me being there by myself, but it 162 00:12:35.919 --> 00:12:39.399 is fish and there's people told me that. But I mean, I have 163 00:12:41.360 --> 00:12:46.200 no intentions on twenty body's leg or whatnot, you know. I mean, 164 00:12:46.200 --> 00:12:50.679 I was not a believer in this stuff. I mean, that was the 165 00:12:50.759 --> 00:12:54.000 last thing on my mind, is you know, Bigfoot being a reality, 166 00:12:54.759 --> 00:12:58.559 So could you get any details from it being that far away, like what 167 00:12:58.600 --> 00:13:01.799 color hair was, how long the hair was, the shape of the head, 168 00:13:01.840 --> 00:13:07.039 things like that. It had like a the cone shaped head. And 169 00:13:09.480 --> 00:13:18.559 actually I actually thought that it was black, but somebody enhanced the image and 170 00:13:18.320 --> 00:13:24.240 the hair appeared to be reddish brown. I mean, I guess from the 171 00:13:24.279 --> 00:13:28.960 foliage and stuff, it could have looked black. Yeah. I mean there's 172 00:13:30.799 --> 00:13:37.919 some people who have had sightings where it appeared black and then was back dropped 173 00:13:37.960 --> 00:13:39.759 by like sunlight or something like that, and they could see kind of a 174 00:13:39.799 --> 00:13:43.120 reddish tint to the hair as it shined through the edges of the hair. 175 00:13:45.200 --> 00:13:50.399 So yeah, that's not uncommon at all. And I just want to clarify 176 00:13:52.559 --> 00:13:56.679 whenever I mentioned that it waited until you were by yourself or anyone listening, 177 00:13:56.360 --> 00:14:01.519 I wasn't calling into question whether it had happened or not. It's just interesting 178 00:14:01.600 --> 00:14:09.399 that it waited until everybody was gone before it started becoming more active and let 179 00:14:09.440 --> 00:14:13.120 itself be seen like that. And I think that's very intentional. Right, 180 00:14:13.360 --> 00:14:16.879 It wanted it wanted me to know, yeah, it wanted it wanted me 181 00:14:18.120 --> 00:14:24.080 to know it was there. And I told I told, uh. One 182 00:14:24.120 --> 00:14:28.720 of the guys I worked with. I was like, do you remember hearing 183 00:14:28.759 --> 00:14:31.360 anything when we were out here? And he's like, I don't. I 184 00:14:31.360 --> 00:14:33.320 don't remember hearing nothing. I let him listen to the audio. He's like, 185 00:14:35.879 --> 00:14:39.360 no, he said, that's coyote. And I was like, okay, 186 00:14:39.639 --> 00:14:48.360 whatever. And the next the next day I walked around and sure enough, 187 00:14:48.440 --> 00:14:52.000 that's when I when I found the trackway and that thing. There was 188 00:14:52.039 --> 00:14:56.679 a trailway that led up to that ridge where I saw the creature. It 189 00:14:56.759 --> 00:15:01.360 came down into the sawmill on that the flat down. I mean that I'm 190 00:15:01.399 --> 00:15:05.919 six six and I could I could do between those tracks if I tried. 191 00:15:05.039 --> 00:15:09.679 I mean, and it's they're huge, and I mean, I've got my 192 00:15:09.759 --> 00:15:13.960 boot to comparisons, you know. And people were like, oh, well, 193 00:15:13.960 --> 00:15:16.559 why is all the leaves and stuff dead around there? I'm like, 194 00:15:16.879 --> 00:15:20.399 it's summer, you know. I mean, and you can see where that 195 00:15:20.559 --> 00:15:24.960 thing was stepped and it hit slid, you know, from coming across the 196 00:15:24.000 --> 00:15:28.840 creek. You can see the dried up creek bed and it stepped and it 197 00:15:28.000 --> 00:15:37.240 slid coming across the creek and it definitely definitely crazy, and that I actually 198 00:15:37.320 --> 00:15:41.799 got the vocalizations from the first night and then the next even after I saw 199 00:15:43.440 --> 00:15:48.080 the next set of vocalizations and they were fifteen minutes apart. Now three years 200 00:15:48.159 --> 00:15:54.639 later me doing my field research and all that, it's definitely definitely interesting. 201 00:15:56.879 --> 00:15:58.960 How how long did all that activity go on? Like how many do you? 202 00:16:00.200 --> 00:16:03.720 Were you there? And did the activity last the entire time until you 203 00:16:03.840 --> 00:16:07.200 left? The week that we got up there, and then the week that 204 00:16:07.279 --> 00:16:12.559 I was there, it was two days. I mean, first I found 205 00:16:12.600 --> 00:16:18.720 the tracks in the rain. Monday, nothing happened, Tuesday, nothing happened, 206 00:16:18.000 --> 00:16:22.840 Wednesday and Thursday. Wednesday was when I saw the creature, and then 207 00:16:22.960 --> 00:16:30.320 Wednesday evening was when the sound started. And then that Thursday found the tracks, 208 00:16:30.440 --> 00:16:33.879 and that evening I heard the other sets of vocalizations and I was ready 209 00:16:33.879 --> 00:16:37.320 to go home. I just left. I just told it. I came 210 00:16:37.399 --> 00:16:41.120 up with the reasons just sleep. I wasn't going to tell my boss I 211 00:16:41.200 --> 00:16:45.559 seen Bigfoot. Yeah, he had probably frown on that. Well, there's 212 00:16:45.600 --> 00:16:49.639 one there's one little detail I want to talk about, and the term that 213 00:16:49.720 --> 00:16:53.799 I will never forget. So Friday on my way home, I stopped that 214 00:16:53.919 --> 00:17:00.000 little drive in diner called Robos, went in there and I grabbed me something 215 00:17:00.159 --> 00:17:03.440 neat, and so I went over and sat down. I just struck up 216 00:17:03.480 --> 00:17:11.000 conversation like y'all ever seen or heard anything that's not supposed to be here? 217 00:17:11.240 --> 00:17:15.119 And they just got quiet and it was like, what did you see? 218 00:17:15.240 --> 00:17:18.960 And I was like this, and I showed them the picture and I showed 219 00:17:18.960 --> 00:17:22.359 them the tracks, and I let them listen to the audio that I got. 220 00:17:22.880 --> 00:17:25.680 They got. They got real quiet and they just looked at each other 221 00:17:25.720 --> 00:17:30.640 and they said, that's a that's a devil monkey. A devil monkey, 222 00:17:30.720 --> 00:17:33.000 yeah, And I was like, that's that's I said, so that's a 223 00:17:33.039 --> 00:17:37.880 bigfoot and they said mountain giant. It's all the same thing. They just 224 00:17:38.440 --> 00:17:44.279 passed down from generation generation, but they call them a devil monkey. So 225 00:17:44.960 --> 00:17:48.720 what made you decide to get into research? I knew one day, sooner 226 00:17:48.799 --> 00:17:52.599 or later that I would have to overcome my fear, you know, because 227 00:17:52.839 --> 00:17:56.960 I have an outdoorsman. I used to hunt fish all the time, and 228 00:17:57.000 --> 00:18:03.319 after that encounter, I quit. I didn't go back. This past Thanksgiving 229 00:18:03.440 --> 00:18:07.720 was the first time that I had been deer hunting in three years, I 230 00:18:07.799 --> 00:18:11.759 actually killed a buck and it was super emotional, and you know, I 231 00:18:11.920 --> 00:18:15.079 had conquered my fear. You know, I got back and doing what I 232 00:18:15.119 --> 00:18:22.920 love. And you know now that I've been doing my research and stuff and 233 00:18:22.160 --> 00:18:26.960 it's it's helping me overcome my fear, you know, because these these things 234 00:18:26.000 --> 00:18:30.640 are are real, you know, and I want I want to do things 235 00:18:32.559 --> 00:18:37.000 the community here in Tennessee, you know. I mean Scott Carpenter, uh 236 00:18:37.680 --> 00:18:40.359 is actually who I looked up to and doing this. You know, I 237 00:18:41.160 --> 00:18:45.160 looked up Bigfoot researching Tennessee and flow and behold, Scott Carpenter's name pulled up. 238 00:18:45.200 --> 00:18:49.119 And I started watching the YouTube videos and all that I've been going out 239 00:18:49.160 --> 00:18:53.480 and recording. Behind me as I walked down the trails, there's bigfoot, 240 00:18:53.799 --> 00:18:59.680 sure enough, and a great smoky now Mountains. National People's going on this 241 00:18:59.799 --> 00:19:03.960 crew at me, you know, doing my field research or whatnot and saying 242 00:19:04.039 --> 00:19:08.160 that's not there or that's just a blur or whatever. I mean, there's 243 00:19:08.200 --> 00:19:15.680 some images that I've got to the sea there there's that's nothing else but a 244 00:19:15.680 --> 00:19:21.240 big foot. And you know, I've actually had two more close encounters that 245 00:19:21.319 --> 00:19:23.640 I haven't talked about yet, you know, and one of one of these 246 00:19:23.720 --> 00:19:30.920 encounters was that's pretty scary. Was it like an aggressive encounter? I think 247 00:19:30.039 --> 00:19:36.000 that they were more or less twin with me. I was hiking up the 248 00:19:36.039 --> 00:19:41.480 trail and sure enough, I looked over to my left and I'm gonna go 249 00:19:41.599 --> 00:19:48.839 down through here and look, and I'm walking down this trail and I keep 250 00:19:48.880 --> 00:19:53.039 walking and there's a big flat I kept hearing it moving over to my right 251 00:19:53.119 --> 00:19:59.359 and I walk for maybe ten yards and I turned and I look and I 252 00:19:59.400 --> 00:20:02.480 see this. I see it coming out from around a tree, and it 253 00:20:02.640 --> 00:20:06.839 just oh wow. And it was a lot closer than my first encounter. 254 00:20:06.920 --> 00:20:10.039 I'm talking, this thing was like thirty yards away from me. Man, 255 00:20:10.359 --> 00:20:15.160 and it lifted out and went back behind a tree. And I had my 256 00:20:15.200 --> 00:20:18.240 backpack on my back, and I had a big I had my big night. 257 00:20:18.559 --> 00:20:22.359 I didn't have a gun, and it was it was on my right 258 00:20:22.400 --> 00:20:29.599 hand side. So I turned facing back towards the trail and I'm making eye 259 00:20:29.599 --> 00:20:33.359 contact with it because it keeps peeping in and out. Then all of a 260 00:20:33.400 --> 00:20:40.000 sudden, to my left there was a loud snap. There was one stomping. 261 00:20:40.200 --> 00:20:44.119 It was dumping its feet. I didn't I didn't turn around a look, 262 00:20:44.200 --> 00:20:47.440 but it was behind me and it was just standing or just stomping, 263 00:20:47.519 --> 00:20:52.400 and I booked it back to the main trail. Yeah. I think that's 264 00:20:52.400 --> 00:20:55.440 a good idea to get out of there in that situation. You're just going 265 00:20:55.440 --> 00:20:59.960 out there by yourself. Yeah, yeah, I'm I'm doing it by myself. 266 00:21:00.119 --> 00:21:03.400 Uh. I have my back camera recording the whole time as as I'm 267 00:21:03.440 --> 00:21:11.359 doing it. But you know, sometimes I don't know if they're electromagnetic field 268 00:21:11.480 --> 00:21:15.920 and here or what, but the phones just they they's that. I mean, 269 00:21:15.960 --> 00:21:22.440 they they're just drained of energy. And I believe that there's an electromagnetic 270 00:21:22.519 --> 00:21:29.039 field and relationship with the Bigfoot, you know. I mean some people are 271 00:21:29.079 --> 00:21:34.599 going to say that they're an ape or whatnot. I personally believe that they 272 00:21:34.640 --> 00:21:38.519 are descendants of Nefilin. I'm not saying they are the Netiluin. I believe 273 00:21:38.599 --> 00:21:42.960 that they are descendants of them. You know, my face is a big 274 00:21:44.000 --> 00:21:47.519 part of my life and it helped me a lot to get through my my 275 00:21:47.680 --> 00:21:51.960 encounter. You know, I went through anxiety depression, wouldn't need or sleep 276 00:21:52.039 --> 00:21:56.680 because of that encounter. A lot of people that see them have that reaction 277 00:21:56.319 --> 00:22:02.519 me, me telling and sharing my story. I just hope that it somebody 278 00:22:02.559 --> 00:22:07.640 else coming out and telling theirs, because I mean, only way that the 279 00:22:07.720 --> 00:22:11.119 mystery is going to really be solved, you know, coming forward and sharing 280 00:22:11.119 --> 00:22:15.160 their encounters. But I don't. I don't think that the mystery will ever 281 00:22:15.240 --> 00:22:18.839 be solved. But I could be wrong. Do you think that you know 282 00:22:18.920 --> 00:22:23.759 there's powers that be that are suppressing the discovery? Oh? Yeah, absolutely, 283 00:22:25.720 --> 00:22:30.839 absolutely, just for beefs and all that stuff. I mean, that 284 00:22:30.920 --> 00:22:34.000 could be wrong, but you know, everybody is entitled to their own opinions. 285 00:22:34.359 --> 00:22:38.319 Yeah, absolutely. I mean, have you ran across anything strange? 286 00:22:38.319 --> 00:22:45.599 Have you seen any unmarked vehicles or been approached by anybody or anything? Yes? 287 00:22:48.480 --> 00:22:53.519 Yeah, I've actually had had black vehicles outside of the house sometimes the 288 00:22:53.559 --> 00:22:57.960 middle of the night. And I mean obviously, but just for clarification, 289 00:22:59.720 --> 00:23:07.000 that wasn't something you noticed happening prior to you doing this. That never ever 290 00:23:07.119 --> 00:23:14.440 happened until I did in my field research send everything on Facebook on my Facebook 291 00:23:14.440 --> 00:23:17.759 group. I mean, does that spook you a little bit to keep on 292 00:23:17.839 --> 00:23:21.359 going? You know, you're talking about your YouTube channel and you know, 293 00:23:21.440 --> 00:23:25.160 and I've seen that you've you know, you've got the Facebook page going. 294 00:23:25.160 --> 00:23:27.960 You're doing some things, You're getting out there in the public eye. Do 295 00:23:29.039 --> 00:23:33.400 you have any apprehension about doing that because of what might happen? If something's 296 00:23:33.440 --> 00:23:37.920 going to happen to me, I just hope that I have good enough friends 297 00:23:37.000 --> 00:23:41.799 to get see going. I mean, I'm not I'm not scared. I 298 00:23:41.839 --> 00:23:47.200 mean, I want the truth to be revealed and I want to replay or 299 00:23:47.240 --> 00:23:49.480 another. I mean, people can think I'm crazy, you know, but 300 00:23:51.599 --> 00:23:57.680 there's a connection. You know, it's not a natural creature. You know. 301 00:23:59.079 --> 00:24:03.599 I've definitely heard some things over the years that have made me scratch my 302 00:24:03.680 --> 00:24:08.039 head in terms of, uh, maybe it's not a good idea to talk 303 00:24:08.039 --> 00:24:14.880 about this stuff publicly. But I just want to, you know, point 304 00:24:14.880 --> 00:24:18.359 out that I I do a podcast, I've been doing a podcast for a 305 00:24:18.400 --> 00:24:21.440 long time. Before that, I was a field researcher, and I have 306 00:24:21.599 --> 00:24:26.440 never had anything happen to me directly. I've known people that have been approached 307 00:24:27.799 --> 00:24:34.200 by some unsavory characters that wouldn't identify themselves. Well, I've packed them. 308 00:24:34.240 --> 00:24:40.920 I've had them unsavory phone calls, very very vulgar phone calls. Really yeah, 309 00:24:41.640 --> 00:24:45.519 stick restick in numbers, making threat to me and my family. Yeah, 310 00:24:45.640 --> 00:24:51.319 what did they say? Uh, there was one happened a couple of 311 00:24:51.359 --> 00:24:56.440 weeks ago to stop posting when I'm posting, and they hung up. And 312 00:24:56.480 --> 00:25:02.720 then before that, you know, they called me my first encounter that happened 313 00:25:02.720 --> 00:25:04.720 in Virginia and they's like, did you see something? And I was like 314 00:25:04.839 --> 00:25:08.759 yeah, I was like I've got the evidence. There's like, well, 315 00:25:08.920 --> 00:25:14.839 just keep your mouth shut. And it's just been really weird. I've been 316 00:25:14.880 --> 00:25:18.039 getting these odd phone calls. They're restricted numbers, you know, and they're 317 00:25:18.640 --> 00:25:22.920 it's it's really starting to scare me a little bit now you know that they've 318 00:25:23.000 --> 00:25:30.000 they've actually been outside the house, brand brand new black, unmarked tahoes and 319 00:25:30.039 --> 00:25:36.160 such. You know, they're in our town. They're you're just Ford Explorers, 320 00:25:36.200 --> 00:25:40.400 you know. Then they don't have any tahoes or nothing like that in 321 00:25:40.440 --> 00:25:45.039 this town. Small town, you know, I mean, I mean that 322 00:25:45.079 --> 00:25:48.799 can definitely work to your advantage. Though, being in a small town like 323 00:25:48.839 --> 00:25:53.279 that, it's hard for people that don't belong there to go unnoticed, you 324 00:25:53.319 --> 00:26:00.000 know, without somebody seeing them and saying something, Oh absolutely, yeah, 325 00:25:59.640 --> 00:26:04.000 And uh, you know you're you're, in my opinion, your best defense 326 00:26:04.039 --> 00:26:07.039 against that sort of thing is just keep on doing what you're doing. Be 327 00:26:07.240 --> 00:26:11.079 public, be open, post your evidence, you know, uh, be 328 00:26:11.200 --> 00:26:18.039 out there in the open where everybody is watching. And absolutely absolutely notice. 329 00:26:19.039 --> 00:26:23.920 I've noticed that that the dog Man was actually a reality, you know. 330 00:26:25.039 --> 00:26:29.480 I mean I thought that was just a load of b it. I found 331 00:26:29.519 --> 00:26:33.319 some unexplained tracks, you know, I try. I was going to try 332 00:26:33.359 --> 00:26:36.079 and cast them, but you know, the ground wasn't good enough. But 333 00:26:36.440 --> 00:26:41.599 sure enough they were big three told Canehine tracks with a five foot stripe to 334 00:26:41.680 --> 00:26:45.160 one. I mean that that really made my That really made me scratch my 335 00:26:45.200 --> 00:26:52.200 head. And I haven't publicly talked to the other encounter, but I went 336 00:26:52.279 --> 00:26:56.799 into this gifted area that I've been gifted in, you know, and I 337 00:26:56.880 --> 00:27:00.640 make that with h in an eye out of sticks and the big Foot they'll 338 00:27:00.680 --> 00:27:06.400 they'll rearrange it, and they don't. They don't like Granny Smith's. I 339 00:27:06.480 --> 00:27:11.000 learned that really they like they like red apples. They don't like they like 340 00:27:11.160 --> 00:27:15.880 red ones. And I was sitting there and I was putting putting the apple 341 00:27:15.960 --> 00:27:19.319 up in the tree. All of a sudden, running up the hill, 342 00:27:19.440 --> 00:27:22.960 I was like, oh gosh, I was like, I've got right here, 343 00:27:22.039 --> 00:27:25.559 and I went, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. I wasn't 344 00:27:25.559 --> 00:27:32.880 filming that, oh why? But I squatted down and that I reached back 345 00:27:32.920 --> 00:27:38.720 and I turned the camera back and I turned around and I didn't I don't 346 00:27:38.759 --> 00:27:44.319 remember I've seen it. I seen it behind. I was like, okay, 347 00:27:44.799 --> 00:27:45.440 I thought it was a big foot. I just said, whoa, 348 00:27:45.519 --> 00:27:48.599 whoa, whoa, I'm a friend, I'm a friend. But whenever I 349 00:27:48.640 --> 00:27:55.240 got home, I looked at it. It wasn't a big foot. But 350 00:27:55.400 --> 00:28:02.680 the weird thing that happened was he'll I I got to my knees I had. 351 00:28:03.359 --> 00:28:06.519 I just had this old woman force and I thought I was going to 352 00:28:06.599 --> 00:28:11.160 die because I had my if I didn't have my inhaler on me, because 353 00:28:11.200 --> 00:28:15.480 at the time I had a really bad ussurtory infection, I shouldn't have been 354 00:28:15.519 --> 00:28:18.240 out there. But now if I hadn't had minehaler, I would have died 355 00:28:18.559 --> 00:28:23.680 because it was just it felt like my lungs were collapsing and it was horrible. 356 00:28:25.519 --> 00:28:27.559 But as soon as I got home, when I started walking through the 357 00:28:27.559 --> 00:28:33.359 footage, and I seen this thing and its head was peeking out of the 358 00:28:33.400 --> 00:28:41.400 brush and it it it's definitely came like. It's not not ape or human 359 00:28:41.559 --> 00:28:48.279 like. It's I have to send it to you. Is it's a it's 360 00:28:48.279 --> 00:28:56.039 an unexplained being. I mean it literally looks like of a wolf's head. 361 00:28:56.640 --> 00:29:00.319 Wow, So you mentioned that, you know, you believe that Bigfoot are, 362 00:29:00.880 --> 00:29:06.559 you know, descendants of Nephelin. What do you think the dogmen are? 363 00:29:07.279 --> 00:29:10.559 You know, I've been I've been thinking about that too, but I 364 00:29:10.680 --> 00:29:15.880 really I really haven't come to a connection on that yet. I mean I've 365 00:29:15.880 --> 00:29:19.880 been looking, you know, I think looking back into it some more. 366 00:29:19.920 --> 00:29:27.920 I mean, maybe they could follow category some way somehow. I'm not really 367 00:29:27.960 --> 00:29:34.519 sure. I just it makes me scratch my head about them. But I 368 00:29:34.759 --> 00:29:41.880 can assure you that there are creatures that are in the Great Smoky Mountains National 369 00:29:41.920 --> 00:29:48.680 Park. And I just encourage any listener, you know, if you can 370 00:29:48.799 --> 00:29:56.799 check out my Facebook group Bigfoot Reports and Data. I mean, I take 371 00:29:56.880 --> 00:30:02.000 credibility and accountability for what I capture, you know, I I take comparison 372 00:30:02.119 --> 00:30:06.640 photos, you know, to show what actually supposed to be there and what's 373 00:30:06.680 --> 00:30:10.160 not, you know. I mean, yeah, all the conditions might be 374 00:30:10.240 --> 00:30:12.960 different, but you can still get a sense that, you know that object's 375 00:30:14.000 --> 00:30:18.839 not there like one of these. I actually captured what I believe is a 376 00:30:18.880 --> 00:30:26.319 white juvenile because I went into this other gifting area and there's a stump not 377 00:30:26.480 --> 00:30:33.160 even twenty yards from where I gift at and this thing it was crouched down, 378 00:30:33.240 --> 00:30:37.279 but whenever I was video on it, it kind of props up and 379 00:30:37.440 --> 00:30:42.400 looked and it goes back down. Huh. I never imagined that I would 380 00:30:42.440 --> 00:30:48.640 be doing big foot field research in I mean, I'm already I'm already getting 381 00:30:48.680 --> 00:30:52.519 recognition, you know, and I've got some huge news coming. I actually 382 00:30:52.519 --> 00:30:59.079 got an offered to come attend a conference, but I can't say which one 383 00:30:59.160 --> 00:31:03.559 yet. And I'm me being an amateur field researcher and already getting recognition. 384 00:31:03.720 --> 00:31:07.720 I'm really thankful and blessed. You know. I want to raise awareness. 385 00:31:07.759 --> 00:31:12.400 You know, these creatures are real, and you know these the forests are 386 00:31:12.440 --> 00:31:18.920 their home and people need to respect their home. Well, Harley, I 387 00:31:18.960 --> 00:31:23.880 appreciate you coming on here and sharing your story. You mentioned your Facebook page. 388 00:31:23.920 --> 00:31:30.160 What was the name of it again? It's Bigfoot Reports and data and 389 00:31:30.440 --> 00:31:33.680 symbol or not. And just hang in there, man, you know, 390 00:31:33.920 --> 00:31:36.880 keep on doing what you're doing. That's awesome that you're getting some attention and 391 00:31:36.960 --> 00:31:41.799 recognition, and just keep it up. Man, absolutely, Matt, and 392 00:31:41.839 --> 00:31:47.440 I can't thank you enough. And you had an encounter and you've been afraid 393 00:31:47.480 --> 00:31:49.599 to share it, share it, get it off your chest, don't let 394 00:31:49.599 --> 00:31:55.640 it corrupt you, because you can help piece together the pieces, you know, 395 00:31:55.839 --> 00:32:00.279 just solving this mystery. And if you've had your own encounter with something 396 00:32:00.319 --> 00:32:04.240 you can explain, send me an email at Bigfoot Crossroads at gmail dot com. 397 00:32:04.559 --> 00:32:07.240 Check out the website Bigfootcrossroads dot com. You can find links to all 398 00:32:07.279 --> 00:32:12.960 the social media past episodes, a contact form to reach me directly. Everything 399 00:32:12.960 --> 00:32:16.640 you need, all in one place. And until next time, remember there's 400 00:32:16.640 --> 00:32:19.000 something in the woods.