All right, folks, welcome back and joining us now is Tony Ardeman of
Wisewolf Gold, and Tony has been a big supporter of this program for a
long time. He's set up David Knight, not Gold, so he knows
if you're coming from us, and I want to talk to you. We
got a lot of economic issues that are happening right now. We got budget
deals, we got massive inflation. But it's all fixed now, isn't it,
Tony. We're not worry about We got the soft landing that's coming in,
but we still haven't landed. We're still and as we look around,
it looks like the door's blown off on side of the plane, doesn't it
for you? For you and I I thought that was a that Alaskan Airlines
flight. That's a pretty good analogy for what's happening to the Western economy in
general. But hey, but now David, we have a bitcoin etf Everything's
fine, that's right. You can get black Rock to buy your bitcoin for
you. I am so confused by the interest in this, and it's I
understand that a lot of the crypto traders of people. We'll go into FIAT
and we'll get into the system, it'll become normalized. I'm thinking, well,
that's the last place you want to go. But okay, you know,
well we'll go ahead and let this ride. Yeah, And I've seen
an article one person saying, well, I think that one bank, And
now an analyst at one bank says he thinks a bitcoin is going to hit
two hundred thousand dollars after the CTF approval. I don't know. I've seen
a lot of volatility. I don't like volatility on something that I've invested in.
It's like, seems to me like it's kind of like a crap shoot,
which is everything that's in the stock market. And once you roll the
bitcoin stuff into ETFs and make a derivative out of it and then trade it
on the gambling floor, I don't know that's a good thing or not.
My favorite part of the whole thing was the descent of the SEC board and
what they the holdouts that didn't want this to happen, and they're mostly on
the left. Yeah, and they believe that that bitcoin finances terrorism, that
it's used for monality and money laundering, and I think it's nothing. It's
nothing compared to what the US dollar is. Are you paying attention, and
of course they know that, but it just really exposes the establishment's love and
lust for unlimited fiat currency. Yeah, and you know, I was staying
of bitcoin. I mean, that's not what I do primarily, but I
started buying bitcoin when it was three hundred and eighty dollars back in twenty sixteen,
putting in my bitcoin ATM so I know a little bit about it,
and I think right now we're going through a phase where it's there's gonna be
a lot of interest pique now because of the ETFs, but it really isn't
the point of it. I think that's the funny part about the whole thing
is that it's a it's a completely different system, but you're still still interested
in what the fiat banking system thinks about it. I'm not. I'm looking
at parallel economies and what we do moving forward away from this. Yeah.
Yeah, they're saying, yeah, we're going to get institutional money in.
As you point out, you're looking at these institutions that are failing and corrupting.
But and that was the thing that I didn't read what the left said
about it, but that was the big question mark in my mind about it.
It's like we've been We had this campaign from Elizabeth Warren, we got
to destroy all crypto, the competitors to our CBDC right now, and yet
you know they on the SEC they approve this again. You know, it
really kind of surprised me. But you might even look at this and saying,
so are they trying to sabotage it like they did with their derivatives and
the real estate market? You know, real estate is good stuff, but
look what they did with their derivatives. Is that what they're going to do
to bitcoin now? With these derivatives, I'm not real for the dot com
bubble? Yeah, exactly are you sabotaging it from the That's a great question.
It's an open question. Or maybe it's just because there's an inevitability of
cryptocurrency in the face of what's happened globally. I mentioned maybe on your so
last week on my show. I mean, it's fifty two times more currency
today in the world than there was in nineteen eighty mm hmmm. Right,
that's a bubble of all bubbles, something we've never seen before, and it's
going to crash. Yeah. I was talking to you off air about this
Swiss National Bank. There's a systemic banking crisis on the horizon for twenty twenty
four and beyond. I think we've seen that last year with Silicon Valley Bank
and First Republic. But the Swiss National Bank two years in a row.
Now again this is this is Switzerland, where you go for a banking safe
haven. The Swiss lost money at the Swiss National Bank level two years in
a row. But they made money on one thing, and that's the gold
they purchased that they have in their holdings. And that is a little bit
ironic. That's what we're seeing around the world is that you know, these
central banks are buying gold, but the fiat currency system is imploding and they're
all moving away at different systems, and especially you know, again, unfortunately
right here, the US dollar is on its way out and it's not going
to happen tomorrow. But we're seeing the signs and of course, you know,
inflation, and they're telling us inflation has been licked now because of the
election, not because of any data. And you know, you see the
data from Chick fil a prices increased twenty one percent in two years. But
that's not even the worst of it. Take a look at what you say
at the grocery store and other things, and they can manipulate the price of
stuff like fuel, and they can do that temporarily for the election. But
we know what the trend is for the longest time. We know that Biden
does want to destroy it for the long term, but they're going to profit
from it in the short term, and they're going to use it to profit
in terms of politics in the short term when we I don't know, of
course inflation. I think they're going to do everything they can to pull every
manipulation they can this last year, but it still remains this next year,
the selection year, but it still remains to be seen if they can really
do anything about it or if it's going to blow up in their face.
Well, these financial products that we are so ubiquitous today for a one k's
iras, just the amount of advertising that you see to open up a stock
buying account, all these things, in my opinion, were put in place
after nineteen seventy one, so you wouldn't pay attention to the fact that your
dollar buys less and less every single year. The purchasing power is diminishing,
and yeah, the inflation rate they always pegg it it's a seven percent,
it's eight percent. We're getting it. We have now they have the what
Jerome Palwet referred to as the terminal rate, which I think that's more apropos
to what they've done. But you have to think math isn't political. Math
just is it exists outside of the realm of what you believe. You know,
it just it just is going to reinforce reality. And I think that's
what happened with you know, the last three or four years. You have
eighty percent of all the dollars ever created in history, in the United States
history made in the last forty eight months. And that's going to create inflation.
It's an inflation of the money supply, and that makes the cost of
goods go up. And of course you don't even factor in a lot of
these retailers like Chick fil A. It's not just the rising cost of goods.
But you have to recalculate what your profit margins are. That's a whole
other that's an entirely different calculation because when the prices increase, guess what else
increases? Fees get credit card fees. Most consumers don't know the entity that
makes the most at your gas pump. It's not the gasoline retailer, it's
the credit card company. The credit card company makes more per gallon than the
person who owns the store. Yeah, oh yeah, I promise you that
it's at three dollars a gallon. That's three cents on every that's nine cents
a gallon that goes to Chase Manhattan, or it goes to Blackrock. Okay,
that doesn't go to the person who owns the convenience store. So you
add those fees in, So there's all sorts of hidden fees anytime the prices
increase. And I will tell you something, folks, if the big banks
thought inflation was a problem for them, then they would be talking about fighting
inflation and wanting to do something about monetary policy and budget policy. But they
don't. They like higher prices. They make more. Yeah. Oh yeah,
we had our You had the experience of having been involved to a gas
station. You know what those margins are in our retail operation. The credit
card fees are just crushing, you know, and there really wasn't anything that
we could do about it, you know, as everybody would move to a
plastic you know, that's another reason to use cash is to cut out these
big credit card companies and big banks that are working on ways and how they
can dbank us and take our money and steal our money from us. You're
feeding those evil institutions that are out there, and it'd be better for you
to feed the local businesses that you're dealing with and then also keep your anonymity.
But it's just the convenience of the credit card for the consumer, and
that's the way this thing has been going. You know, there's Mike Michael
Mahari who is with a tenth Amendment Center. I've interviewed him many times,
but of course he also talks about gold. He said, there's three things
that have been driving a bull market in gold into the new year. He
said, there's the demand factor of the fed fact after the January factor,
he said, as far as demand goes, he said, gold has been
up thirteen percent this last year, and that's what you're talking about in terms
of the one thing they're making money in Switzerland with. But he said,
there's also the January factor, and the fact is that gold makes these big
price increases in January. For the most part, it goes up. Have
you noticed that I do, and you know, Michael's right about that.
I read that article on the Wise Wolf Golden Crypto Show on Monday, and
I think he's spot on. I follow his work. He's now over at
Money Metals, smart guy, and you know, I think he's right about
historically in about January he did there was a couple of asterisks there that I
think it is twenty twelve or a couple of different years that that didn't happen.
But we're seeing a bump and I think, you know, right now,
gold's trading a little under two and thirty dollars per troy ounce, but
we're in a lull right now. There's been a lot of profit taking.
But it does it. I don't think it takes a psychic or any with
any sort of skills to look into the future and say that Gold's going to
break its all time high again in twenty twenty four. I think that.
I think the horses out of the bar. And you look at what happened
in the last quarter of twenty twenty three, and I think that's nothing compared
to where we're going. There's been a lot of delayed reaction to David.
This is something I study every single day, and it's in my business,
it's my life. And I remember back in twenty twenty when gold hit its
all time high. Before that, there was a lot of reports coming out
in major financial institutions. They don't talk about this anymore, but they were
just throwing out easily gold at three thousand. This was like City Bank and
other major corporations and making institutions. That was kind of put to bed because
there was I think again, gold is an enemy of the Federal Reserve.
Gold is an enemy to the Fiat banking system. The more that the price,
when you see the price of it go up, then there's something wrong
with the currency. And so I think they constantly try to keep that in
balance. And those wheels are coming off. Is because the bricks nations and
these other nations, like we just talked about the Swiss, they want to
see their gold holdings go up. And if the pricing model is tagged to
what the West has now, which has been for decades, it seems odd
like what is happening? Why don't these prices move, especially with the loss
of purchasing power. I think we're seeing the beginnings of what the reset is
actually going to look like, and the price of gold will go up.
I'm not giving you investment advice. We make that clear. It's not an
investment. The price isn't really going up. It's just your dollars losing purchasing
power, that's right. Yeah, And you know we're talking about Michael Maherry
and his big interests are gold in the tenth Amendment, you know, trying
to get power away from Washington, and we talk about that inherent competition between
the Federal Reserve and gold in general. It's very interesting to see what's happening
in Texas. You've got a primary coming up in March, and so they
put a lot of ballot initiatives in the primary, and that can come in
from the grass kind of the grassroots Republicans, but they still involved in the
political party, but it's fairly large, and so they've pushed in some things
like you know, the Texas Secession, that's one of them that they keep
putting in there. But they've had in the past things like, you know,
a ballot amendment for the primary to show the Republican support for protecting kids
from transmutilation stuff, for example, and those have frequently found their way into
legislation by the Republicans because it's a Republican state, heavily Republican, and if
they see that there's a lot of support on these particular issues at the primary
level, there's a chance that they'll put it in and enact that policy.
And so they've been able to get a ballot proposition onto the Texas Republican primary
that'll be in March that would have the Texas government used the Comptroller's office to
start a program to quote administer access to gold and silver through the Texas Billion
Depository for use as legal tender. And we're seeing this happening, as you
know, and as I've talked about in the past, we're seeing this happen
in a lot of different states. Here in Tennessee, we've got Senator Nicely
and some others who have been working on trying to get a first they call
it a state bank in the state, and the local banks thought that might
be competition to him, so he wisely renamed it a Tennessee Reserve System to
get them to understand that this is something to get away from the central control
of the federal Reserve and then also to set up a depository like Texas has.
They are the only ones who have that right now. But the real
issue is going to be if you can deposit and keep gold there and then
write checks on it. That'll be an interesting move and it'll have consequences.
I think if the first state that does it is going to be a breakthrough,
and I think a lot of other states are poised on this talking about
it. I think they'll probably follow through on that as well. What do
you think about that? How is that going to affect this competition between the
federal Reserve and the states who are trying to pull power away from it.
Well, if you recall, I think it was about mid twenty twenty three,
the Texas legislature is also considering a digital gold currency that will be run
by the state of Texas. I'm all for states exploring this and having boullion
banks. I think you need to be cautious when you talk about the state
running anything that would resemble a currency. I don't know that I like that.
I don't think that's needed. But if there's a way for the state
to at least enforce that gold and silver or legal tender, I think that's
great. This is part of the decentralization process, and I think if you
put it to a vote. Just looking at Costco, David, looking at
Walmart, we know that they're selling goal bars and they're running out. The
public is hungry for something different than needs. They want some stability, and
gold and silver are always been a safe have and I think people are starting
to pay attention again, especially when you're talking about, hey, you're it
hits you where it hurts. It hits you where your chicken sandwich. You
know, your chicken sandwich went up to twenty five percent. People start paying
attention eventually. And my dollar is starting to look like a waffle fry.
You know, it's the holes in it, and it's a shrink inflation.
You're like, well, there's not enough chips in my bag of chips anymore.
All that stuff that hits people and that they're starting to pay attention.
So I think this will be part of our's, part of our future.
It needs to happen on a state by state basis. Branting you know,
legal tender status to gold and silver, even throwing in things like bitcoin.
There's some states that allow you to even use some of your crypto to pay
for property taxes. I think Ohio does that. There's a couple of states
to do that. I think this is important, especially move into the future.
What you have to be cautious about and what you mentioned is creating another
fractional reserve banking system out of the state. This and this, this get
a greed always creeps in. I don't trust politicians. I was on a
ballot in Texas about was it ten years ago or so, so I was
in that same primary ballot was one where they you could vote to initiate the
Texas secession. They actually had something on there. It was like a preliminary
test model. And I think there's any kind of ballot there again this year.
Thanksasis well those that's growing to see. You know, ten years ago
when I ran for Congress in Texas, even in like deep East Texas,
when I when I would say we need to end the FED, people didn't
know what I was talking about. But now they do. See this is
like I was. This was you know, Ron Paul's book in the FED.
I was on that. That was part of my plank, Like right
up on the top of my campaign website is auditing and ending the Federal Reserve.
I wanted audit. I want to figure out where the money went and
I want to, you know, create a new sound money system. And
I think that was a little bit over people's heads at the time, not
everybody, but right now that would be a huge thing, like if you
were and you don't see many people doing that, but I think that will
be part of the future too. And I think that's the key thing.
I think what you're saying, people's awareness of the federal system, you know,
the federal reserve system, and that's really what's behind the thing they call
it a Tennessee Resources. It's not like they're going to set up some kind
of a Fiat currency fractional reserve system thing here. But they're saying, you
know, for those small banks away. It's worked in North Dakota. They
have far more small banks and local banks there than they do anywhere else,
and so it's a move to try to decentralize and keep competitive the financial situation.
So you know, it's cutting some loans and things like that and kind
of backing up the loans with them on some of the things that that type
of thing. But I think, you know, regardless of the details,
and of course, the devils are in the devil is in the details on
these bills, you know, the Texas thing. But what it shows is
that there's a tremendous amount of awareness of the untrustworthiness of the Fiat currency and
that there's a lot of demand at the grassroots level to try to move to
something that is legitimate, like gold, that's constitutional money, you know.
And so there's an effort to try to get away from the central, centrally
controlled, corrupt, manipulating financial system, trying to get back to honest money.
And that's at a grassroots level. I think that's a big takeaway.
I don't know what the details are in the proposal, and again you would
have to see what they actually proposed if they do something in the legislature,
and the details will be very important. But what we can see right now
is thisot grassroots demand to get away from this corrupt, centrally controlled system.
And I think that's really what's driving all these efforts where you're talking about Florida
or Oklahoma, or Texas or Tennessee, it's to get away from this federal
reserve control. Well, it gives me a little bit of joy. You
have to realize that somewhere a bankster has a lot of anxiety over this simulation.
They're wait, wait, that wasn't supposed to happen. It's they're supposed
to beg for the to be biometrically scanned and give up all their data and
their freedom for this central bank digital currency, this CBDC. They're still going
to implement it. There's still I mean, this is still we're on the
path for central bank digital currency. But will it when it lands, will
it be inert That's the question. If enough of us and the grassroots and
the states continue to make give you, you know, outs, give you
a way out of it, or a parallel system, then it's toothless.
Yeah, And I think that's that that should be the goal. It's not
that we can completely stop the central bank digital cred currency, because they're going
to implement it. I mean, you're talking about BIS, the Bank of
International Settlements im F. This is coming from the top down. They're going
to do something with it. But if we continue to see this trend,
which I'm very excited about, I think, you know again, and it
may even hurt my business. I don't I don't know, some of it
may hurt my don't care. I think freedom and liberty are the most important
things I want to you know, this is this is our legacy, is
what we fight for. So I like the fact that, you know,
make gold legal legal tender, makes silver legal tender, you know, and
I think people would rather trade in that once you could become familiar with it,
David. Once you know, once people start using gold and silver on
a daily basis or to trade amongst themselves, then you'll you won't use dollars.
Now you've made big steps along those ways. We had a lot of
states that I have taken off, you know, capital gains tax on the
sale of gold and silver and things like that, so that you know,
they're not treating it as a commodity. And so that helps to facilitate people
being able to use it to you know, in private exchanges to buy and
sell stuff. And so we're seeing these these steps being taken, and I
think that awareness of you know, all these different things, regardless of you
know, how they might ultimately work out, it really shows us that people
are aware of the dangers of this centralization. And you were talking about how
sensitive they are to criticism of the Federal Reserve. Is just this week that
I realized that when this wonderful life came out. The FBI was putting out,
and it's been publicized by a lot of people how much they hated that
movie. They called it a communist movie. They started investigating people that were
involved in it. We that explains a lot of the censorship that I've seen
with that one report, because you know, just to criticize bankers, not
even the Federal Reserve, but just to criticize bankers in general. Oh well,
then you were a communist if you don't like mister Potter in that thing.
This guy is a villain, and you know, the FBI is not
interested in what he did with the money that he stole from. That's grand
lars, and especially in those days, eight thousand dollars. I think it
was more than he quoted for the price of the house. He said,
you know, George, you can have like a five thousand dollars house or
so, you know, there's a substantial amount of money, even today,
but especially back then. But they're not worried about that crime. The crime
that they saw in all of it was criticizing bankers. That's what we hear
those alphabet agencies. You know, the alphabet agencies have a long history of
connections to international banking. Even go back to the founding of the Central Intelligence
Agency. You'll see a lot of connections these. You know, there's a
reason why in twenty nineteen, the last quarter twenty nineteen, you saw the
largest exodus of CEOs and history. You're telling me that the multinational corporations and
finance don't have connections to intelligence. Yeah, give me a break. There
was an article by the Mesas Institute kind of in that same line of logic
about the Secret Service and their history as an enforcer of the Fiat currency system.
They actually had some stronger language to it. But there's an article that's
up on zero Hedge. I think they called them a gestapo and I I
was reading over the article before we went live, and I say, I
knew that I'd read that before. There's a lot of criminality in the banking
system. I mean, there was a meme being shit and I hate to
debunk it, but there was a mean I liked a lot and it showed
a kilogram bar of gold. Okay, so thirty two point one three ounces
of gold, and it said ten of these in nineteen twenty would buy you
a house, buy you the average house. And then it says, ten
of these in twenty twenty four will buy you the average house. Well,
it's supposed to be a ten ounce bar. Sorry, I had recalculated it.
But they're exactly right, you know. So the crime again they were
right about the premise was right, but it's too much gold. It's basically
you need ten you know, of the bars will be two hundred thousand instead
of the they had like six hundred thousand. That's not the medium price of
a home. Yea, but the premise is right, and so the crime
is in that meme. Think of the crime of that, Like you how
much wealth was stolen when they decouple the dollar from gold, when they take
the silver out of our coinage? How much crime is in that? I
mean, it's massive. You've you've created a completely new class of people that
are going to be dependent on government. That's what they've done. They've they've
made the American dream so far out of reach. I was reading, was
it ten percent of investors in America own ninety seven percent of the stock?
Wow? Wow, that wealth disparity. That's because of our fiat system.
And you look at you know, the Federal Reserve, and then of course
also Wall Street which concerns me so much. This natural asset company thing,
right when when you look at if they can just go in and you know,
ban gold or confiscate gold and set up central bank Fiat currency and you
know, wave their hands and make this happen, and okay, this kind
of derivative thing over here, you know that they're perfectly capable of doing something
like this natural asset company where they you look at the president's especially Trump,
his metric of success was always what's going on with the stock market? You
know he wasn't when you look at what Biden is doing with jobs created,
it turns out that about two thirds of his jobs that were created they now
admit were not there at all. But we always see that being done.
They always come out and manipulate the unemployment figures a cup a quarter or two
down the road so that they can create a new trend, right the cut.
First they put stuff out and say, look at all the different jobs
that we created, even though they didn't create them. And then next quarter
or two quarters down they revise those previous numbers so they can make this quarter's
numbers look better. That is a trick that they have always done, just
like this whole thing going on with this deal that's gotten some of the Conservatives
upset with Johnson about them saying that they had massive cuts to the IRS.
Republicans achieved massive IRS funding cuts in the spending agreement, says Daily Caller,
Well, they didn't cut anything at all. They cut the proposed increase,
but they made it five and a half times bigger. So these types of
lines, that's why I think, you know, the inflation stuff. Even
though they say that they are going to pull out all the stops for the
election and appear to be trying to do that, I don't think they're going
to make any dent on this at all. Really no. And it reminds
me a lot of remember John Kerry, what was it the two thousand and
four election, and it was eighty seven billion that was in a defense budget
and he's, you know, you vote. He was for it before he
was against it, the kind of thing. And that's the way Trump ran
against the stock market. I remember this. Yeah, he said, it's
a bubble, it's based on nothing. We got to do. We got
to goudit the Fed. There's so much debt. And then he was elected
and that was all about his presidency was all about how wonderful the stock market
was. And I remember you, if you've paid attention to history at all,
you're going to look at the stock market and these numbers. And I
opened up Wisewolf in twenty eighteen. I was down in San Antonio. I
had Fox Business on every day, and of course I'm I'm completely inoculated against
it doesn't affect me, so I'm just watching it just kind of his intel,
and I'm thinking, this isn't gonna last. This is fake. But
I would see the prices of metals were down. I mean, goal was,
you know, twelve hundred dollars an ounce eleven hundred an ounce at sometimes,
and you know that that is so dirt cheap. And I would look
at just what the price of the dollar index and everything else at silver.
I was buying American eagles at sixteen dollars. I mean that just seems like
a quaint time. But where'd all that so called wealth go? You know
it, it's all fake. And yet they're going to have They've got,
you know, three lowering of rates in twenty twenty four. They got more
planned for twenty twenty five. Are they even going to I don't know that
that can they plan monetary policy anymore that far out, David, I don't
think they can. I don't know that even the so called experts really understand
the implications of doing what has been done to the dollar, not only through
the expansion the money supply, but through our arrogance and the sanctions, what
we've done to weaponize the doll That blowback that is happening, and it's happening.
It doesn't just you know, overnight all these nations rise up and start
dumping the dollar. It's just you know, gradually and then suddenly, And
that's I think that's what work. Yeah, yeah, it's true. And
the ability to create these these fake illusions of wealth here and then remove them.
That's why when I look at these things like this bitcoin etf like the
natural asset companies and all the rest of the stuff, is like, I
just don't want to participate in this fraudulent fantasy football league. You know that
they've got going, And that's what it looks like increasingly to me, it's
like there's nothing real about it, but they can make it really miserable for
you. They can manipulate even something like real estate, you know, once
they get people leveraged into that they can really do a ropodope and a pump
and a dump, and they got so many different tricks up their sleeve.
And it really is concerning when I see something like this, you know,
just a last week, looking at the great taking and looking at the natural
asset companies. Why I tell you, they've got some jumongous schemes on the
horizon, which makes me want to run to something that is private and something
that I hold that retains its value all the more. That's why I think
gold I really don't have a problem telling people about what valuable and secure investment
gold and silver are. And it's just key, I think, to try
to get out of these schemes. Well. As a young soldier, the
army teaches you the motto is adapt and overcome. That's what I think that
is our charge in these coming years, in this decade of the Great Reset
of Agenda twenty thirty is adapt and overcome. The old system that we're watching
implode is not going to be there for you. I'm sorry, it's not
the history. If it's history is your guide. If every fiat currency goes
to zero and the United States dollar is the world's oldest living fiat currency.
Okay, since nineteen seventy one, decoupled from gold. The average lifespans twenty
six years for a fiat currency. We're fifty years plus on. Yeah,
this isn't going to end well. And I would say, can you have
the other countries transitioning away from the dollar system. This is going to affect
us on individual level how our economy operates. But you'll see. But the
silver lining to all of it, it's like just what we've been talking about
states decentralizing. You see the bitcoin even though they're they're looking at the ETFs
and I find it silly, but it's opening up new interest. Yeah much.
I've got a comment here from Amos Pool on a tip. Thank you
very much, Amos. I appreciate that. On why Fanny said, I've
heard with the bitcoin having halving, getting it in half right in April,
and the likelihood of the sec approval of ETF which has happened, there'll be
a large rally in bitcoin and other cryptos. So yeah, that probably will.
I think it will go up quite a bit. It's just I look
at it and I look at the volatility, and I've I've and I'm old
enough to have been in the stock market, had massive paper gains that then
disappeared and then some you know, the volatility scares me. The virtual aspect
of it is something that scares me. And when I look. But the
thing, more than the investments, I think i'll get your comments on it,
Tony, But more than the investments, it's just these these manipulations with
CBDC and the NAC and things like that. I just I want to get
out of that system. I want to get out of a digital system.
I want to get out of a Wall Street system. I just don't want
to participate in. That's just my personal thing. Well, I'm skeptical on
so many fronts with this because, first of all, that's how you manipulate
the price of silver and gold or through ets, through paper, that's right,
So you're not actually holding bitcoin, And who knows if they're going to
have that. We've talked about that. Did they really have that silver and
gold in the Shanghai exchange or are they using the Shanghai exchange to shanghai the
price of gold and silver? Yeah, show me, you know, And
I've often I just wonder, like counterparty risk would you rather hold it?
I mean, because right now I can buy bitcoin. You can buy it
pretty much anywhere. Now it's ubiquitous. Same thing with gold or silver.
I don't have counterparty risk if I have that that gold coin or bar or
silver bar, or if I have bitcoin and it's my own wallet, not
attached to an exchange. It's just again, this is just the beginning.
Though. You know that the crypto space was built, you know, the
cipher punks, the cryptographers back, you know, the whoever Satoshi Nakamoto was
after the two thousand and eight, two thousand and nine debacle. This is
what bitcoin was born out of that. And you have to be for ten
years they've been trying to get this ETF pushed through. They finally got it.
So I have, you know, mixed emotions on it. Fine,
but I just I'm looking at the new systems that are being created. It's
actually exciting because there's a there's so much more awareness now of what money is
or what currency actually is. The two things sometimes go together that they're not
They're not exactly the same all the time, and so I think, I
think when you see people becoming more aware, it's good. It's not going
to be perfect. But I think it's good that people are becoming more aware.
I think that bitcoin and crypto will rally. You need to be skeptical,
though I'm not telling you that this is not I'm not in that space
to make anything. And you know, I think that there's there's hope on
it. I think there's there's it's a it's a good space to be in.
It's exciting, but be very careful because there's going to be a lot
of things and I think they're counting on that too, by the way.
I think they're counting on, you know, something like an FTX moment where
they say, well, well we like the digital stuff, but what we
really need is regulation, and the best way to regulate that is through the
Central Bank, and here's your CBDs. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It
is surprising to see them in a sense, you know, the community in
general thought that they're going to approve of the ETF thing. But it is
surprising as much as you know, the Democrats have hated, as you point
out, to see that go through. I kind of thought, well,
maybe they'll stop it because they've been at war with crypto all this last year.
But again, tell us a little bit about what's going on at Wisewolf
got Gold, Well, lot's going on. We've been securing product going into
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to be careful all this, even your bitcoin. You go on the ETFs
and you buy ETFs, it's paper. You don't want that. It's derivative.
Yeah, it's derivative. And so a lot of good things are going
on. I've opened up a lot of supply chains and we'll just see what
happens again. This is it's a privilege to be able to be here at
this point in history, to sponsor your show, to do what I do.
We've got great things going on. Also, you know the Freeworld dot
FM, our new online station, is doing well. We look forward.
Soon you'll be over there. We'll have you broadcasting on Free World. It's
just another we built a lifeboat for free speech. That's something we've done with
some of the money that we've made off of Wise Wolf and wolf Pack.
I'm just reinvesting into free speech and liberty. And that's key because I think
that's another part of it too. You know, we look at the CBDCs
and we look at the nacs and stuff. Of course they're going to be
weaponizing their censorship and AI is going to give them all kinds of power that
they haven't had before. So these other outlets are going to really be key.
So I really do appreciate you doing that. And Tony, and thank
you so much for your support of the program. It's always great to have
you on and get your insights. Thank you so much. Thanks. The
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