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Jeff Grubb and with me is Sean Turbo Shawn McDowell. In today's episode,
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now. But first, Sean, how are you doing? You know,
I'm good after last week, Jeff especially, I'm good. Yeah, yeah,
well there's been nice so the frankly seasonal depression is gone. Finally.
It was sixty and seventy the past few weeks in Wisconsin. So I'm just
summer may not officially be here, you but I'm in the mood. You
know. It's it's hoodie and shorts. Lar dude like, oh yeah,
hoodie and shorts. That's a that's a good time, absolutely weird time.
We've moved a little bit past hoodie and shorts. It's full on just I
mean, you see, I'm wearing the you know, the button up and
shirts. So that is where we're at now. I was taking the trash
out tonight and it like, I mean, I've been inside working all day
and it hit me like it is just like spring is fully sprung. It
was pungent in a good way, parentheses positive for the pungency. It was
just like flowers and trees and grass and just everything all at once, and
it all smelled fantastic, So it was nice. I Mike always calls the
spring a D D tier like part of the year, and I'm like,
you know, in terms of seasons on a four D tier, out of
the four it's fourth, yeah, I think he said. I think he
says it's fourth, Yeah, yeah, I mean I think the way he's
doing is like maybe there's nothing in like C tier and maybe a couple of
them are in B tier. I don't know how he does it, but
he does say it's a low tiers. That's why he always loses dress absolutely,
even though he wore the last one. It was flicked right. It
happens every once in a while, but it's like, I'm you know,
what a certain point it springs nice. I'm just happy it's not like fully
summer yet when it's super hot. So that's me. That's probably why I
feel that way. But yeah, a little bit of time for games.
Tell you what. The kids, both of them are playing that little kiddie
Big city like side by side. Nice. Yeah yeah, well yeah,
your third kid has been as well, so we'll talk about that later.
I started a little bit so I can help them along the way. They
they're figuring out some of these puzzles, but every once in a while it's
like they have no idea what to do. So I get in there a
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We're gonna get back to that. All right, let's let's just get into
it a little bit of news this week. It wasn't like last week where
it was like NonStop misery. Things have settled down a little bit there.
Hey, Microsoft close studios last week opened a new studio this week. Weird.
Yeah, it's weird now. It's it's weird because of the optics,
right, and it's weird because it's weird. Actually, it's just weird,
just straight up. You know, there's a lot graphically where it is though.
It makes a lot of sense. Though it makes a lot of sense.
It's in Poland, it's more affordable. They have a lot of talent
there. They're making a triple A game things. I've heard the people that
are in that Activision bubble have been trying like they're like, I want to
go work on that. That looks shit hot. So people are excited about
it, and that is how it works. It's a bubble. Activision's over
here, Zinny Max is over here. They're separate things. They have their
own profit and loss sheets. So Activision, we know, is making a
lot of money, at least especially compared to something like z Any, which
is probably gonna have a harder time getting some of those studios to be in
the green or in the black, I should say. And yeah, it's
still though. Microsoft just needs to kind of get a handle on some of
the stuff so that it doesn't just look so odd when you go from the
whiplash of closing a studio to then opening one a week later. But whatever,
that just broke. That's about all we have to say about that.
Let's talk about that Assassin's Creed game. Yeah, it is Assassin's Creed Shadows.
It is dual protagonist, and it's not just like, you know,
do you want to be the lady or the guy? It is do you
want to be the lady or the guy? But the man is Joyce k
He's the Black Samurai from his historical record, and he is going to be
the Samurai the fighter. And then there is Naoa I can't read the gut
right now, A thank you now a and she is more of a ninja
niu jitsu stealth hiding in the shadows, attacking there and they are promising a
big time to like, hey, no, both of these are going to
be viable play styles. You can do most missions as one or the other,
and if you pick one or the other. The the way you can
approach things will be very different. They're talking about things like where noway can
take out the lights and create more shadow. There's a light meter like friggin
splinter cell. This stuff speaks to me, Sean, I get pretty excited
about that stuff. Overall, though I'm pretty excited about this. I don't
have the I don't know, you know, hate in my heart for Ubi
Soft the way some people do. I'm just like, I'm too old for
it and I've seen it too many times. I remember, you know,
EA voted the worst company in America three years running and stuff like that,
and thinking back then, like that's kind of silly. There's Halliburton and shit,
like what are we talking about. I'll just judge it case by case.
And I'm like, I've never had any love for these companies. They
put out a good game, I'm gonna probably play it for the most part.
When it comes to Ubisoft, I'm like, it takes a lot to
get me excited though. That's where I'm at. It's like, Okay,
you really have to prove to me that you're not just doing the same thing.
It feels like they're kind of getting through that threshold, even though we
haven't really seen gameplay, it's just been a cinematic trailer that also is it
bothered me too much because I know we're going to get a gameplay thing here
in like a couple of weeks when you be soft Forward is here on June
tenth. How are you feeling about it? I'm excited actually, because so
I'm not really an Assassin's Creed guy. Nothing against it. It's just one
of those series that never got into for what that way too, Yeah,
And I think when they switch to RPG, like open world RPG, I
was like, Eh, not really what I'm looking for right now. I
have games that do this, Especially that was around the time of Breath the
wild Nothing could compete for my open world time the way Breath of the Wilde
did because I'm not much of an open world guy either, so I've always
been looking to get into the Assassin's Creed series. But that combined with some
of those settings, you know, like London's a little dingy and stuff like
that, and I just never felt like there was a really good jumping out
point. But when rumors World Forever now about like a fully fledged Japanese game,
I was like, that sounds more up my alley, you know,
like I can see how that would work basically if they just make tenshu that's
what I'm looking for. Yeah, it sounds like that might be what's happening
here. I am a ironically, despite not getting into this series, I
am a pretty big stealth guy. Love you know, melt your salad and
stuff like that. So I'm looking forward to what this brings in the way
of that. Because, man, just the idea of being able to switch
between like you know, Ninja and sam Urian or anything like that, that
does sound really appealing to me, sound very cool. Sounds like it opens
up a lot of up opportunity for them to make sure these missions are very
varied and so they and they you know, the idea of like a light
meter, to me just says so much about what is possible with the stealth.
We'll see how it actually ends up working. Again, these are promises.
These are ideas that get in my head when I hear someone describe their
game whatever that Well, I'll judge it when I finally get my hand on
it, But at this moment, it's like, oh, I am way
more intrigued about this than I was before, and it feels like it's setting
up to be like a pretty big hit for this holiday season. It's kind
of where I'm at. I saw Matt Piscatel say that, and when he
wrote that, I was like, Yeah, I'm getting those same exact vibes.
It seems like they're hitting all the right notes. I've seen a lot
of impressions from people across different websites saying the same thing, kind of a
little bit of a bubbling on social media as well, and I just think
the way their game presents itself so far through the cinematic trailer, Yo looks
awesome. Uh now ay looks cool? Yawsk Okay, so yeah, okay,
yeah, I saw some people were misspelling because Yosk is such a common
name as far as I know, it's Yaske as in y a sky whatever.
Oh it is with an a Yeah, okay, okay, we have
some So I think people are misspelling it because I definitely saw that with oh
okay Yaske, Yeah, Yaske. And now they both just look incredible,
and I think they have such strong screen presence as characters, and and then
I think, you know the time period that they're operating in Japan is also
so visually striking. Yeah, I'm on board at this moment. At the
very least, we'll see how if they're able to nail it. But this
is like a big new opportunity for them to reintroduce Assassin's Creed because this is
the first Assassin's Creed infinite entry whatever that's going to look like. They haven't
talked about that very much, but you know, that was a big initiative
that they were pushing for. So maybe they are going to treat this more
like a jumping on point like you were asking for any of you heard about
this like season stuff that the game has were like the map will change the
past, No, no, the seasons like the like summer, yes,
right, so very interesting. That's kind of the most interesting thing for me
because they also if we kind of see it before, like in Syndicate,
you also have like the two Britwnians they kinnot Yeah, they're kind of the
same, but also the guy was more like a mele fighter and the woman
was more about like stealth. But like this, like oh the map changes
when depending on the season if in winter, like stuff is like frozen,
and like right, if you run across the roof. The icicles will crash
down and alert people to your presence obvious or whatever. Yes, totally exactly.
Yeah, yeah, I mean again, it sounds like at least some
system based ideas, you know, seasons could just be like, well that
this is the level during that time of year, and you just select it
from a menu. So maybe that's not system of space, but it changes
the way that the world responds to you. I really like that kind of
stuff as well. So yeah, it's promising. That's where I'm at with
it. And are you typically Assassin's Creed guy Jeff are here and there,
here and there? Yeah, yeah, I mean Assassin's Creed one didn't do
it for me. I fell off of that. Assassin's Creed two was much
better, but I also wasn't like super engaged with that. Then Brotherhood came.
Really liked that. Uh yeah, that's the one I super got into.
I played the next one and then skipped a bunch. I didn't play
three. I played four Black Flag really like that, and then since then
it's been very sporadic, but I would I played the the one with the
in Greek or in Greece, excuse me, I think the one with the
Lady Yes Odyssey. Yes, yeah, that's one of the two I've dabbled,
and it's that and my friends in high school. That's when these gamesters
start pop off. We're talking about Assassin's Creed three. They were bigger that
ones. I play a little bit of that one too, but yeah,
yeah, that one's such a weird one for fans of the series. I
should go back and actually check it out. And I think I have it
on switch. It's never actually played it. Yeah. Overall, though,
I'm here for some Assassin's Creed I think they're perfectly reasonable and serviceable open world
games. Often and if the setting hits of the characters hit, if I
feel like I'm having fun kind of in the first hour, I'm probably going
to have a pretty good time. I reviewed Assassin's Creed Unity, the one
that everyone hated. I really liked that game. Yeah, I gave it
like a ninety two or something because it was like, I remember getting to
a murder investigation scene and there was a couple of those, and I really
liked those. They really hit very hard for me. I'm like, there's
these fun tidbits and all these other things to do. They were a good
time. I have a great time. Yeah, sure there are some bugs,
but who's that gonna bother? Everybody? Everybody, everybody else except for
me? So what does that even even show up for everyone too? That's
why that was God, that was the birth of like social media trying to
get that was one of the first examples of that. Absolutely. Yeah,
you know, we people have their other reasons for having that response, but
it's like, this is the thing I could show off that shows really well
in a gift. Is this guy doesn't have a fucking face? Isn't that
wild? And it is? It was weird, it was. It was
a broken game in a lot of ways. Yeah. So the game come
here, I think it's what what is it November fifteenth? I think they
said it was launching something like that. Yeah, I think it's exactly but
sounds right. Yeah, I think that's right. Uh oh, one last
thing, this is not launching on PS four or Xbox one, which might
not which most you might say, well, of course not, but every
Assassin's Creed up to this point since twenty fourteen has launched on Xbox one and
PlayStation four. Yeah, do you think this is like indicative that we really
are moving off from those consoles because we'll have some news here from place Station
here in a second that's interesting maybe or not. Oh yeah, we're done,
unless it's something small, you know, indie game and two D pixelur
game like those will launch on those lasting consoles and then run with either enhancements
or a decade version on the new ones. But that's just because they cancel.
They're trying to reach as big of an audience as possible. But those
consoles at this point, yeah, are absolutely holding back in potential games.
So it's it's just fully time that we moved on from those I think we
have. So that's good, yep. So the counter to that is PlayStation
said this week we have one hundred and eighteen million active users and we've sold
fifty one million or fifty four million, around fifty million PlayStation fives. And
they're like, more people are using the PS four still than using the PS
five. But but right, you say, yeah, and because what are
they playing. They're playing Fortnite or Minecraft, they're playing Call of Duty.
They're playing games that are free to play or they already own. And this
is a conversation we had early this week. It's like and now it's Sony
is just a flat out saying that they're like, these are people that that
we're still going to try to monetize. We're going to monetize them not by
getting them to buy PS five, It is by serving them more content through
through the places they're already at, or maybe offering them a new game that
they could play on that system, and those would be live service games.
I think a couple of live service games Sean could still launch on PS four,
but that's just because those games. It depends on the scope, right,
Exactly, We'll see. Your point is if a game could directly be
on the switch, why not have on last ten consoles as well? Exactly?
Yes. The point is is that this is one of the reasons that
this generation has felt so strange, because there are so many people still playing
games and people who are engaged with games, and they haven't felt the need
to move on from the consoles that they got last generation because the only reason
they would move on is to play the games that they're already playing. And
that's just not a strong enough conversation, not a strong enough We talked about
the narrative you have to tell yourself to buy a five hundred dollars system.
It's really hard to convince yourself to do that when you have to get over
that hump. So PlayStation says, we don't expect PS five sales to grow.
We con they said, we expect to sell more PS five, of
course, but the rate of sales will start to dwindle, and we're not
worried about it. What we're worried about is we're going to count success by
how much people are playing on PlayStation Network. We're worried about engagement, engagement,
and it feels like, well, they kind of have to be if
they don't expect PS five sales to keep going up. But also, what
can they do about this, because we've just reached the threshold where getting people
to buy a system because it's more powerful it just doesn't work anymore because the
games they want to play are they're already playing right right exactly. And our
guy Nick and Chad did back up what I thought, it is closer to
sixty million, which is that's yeah, but that's just even more impressive because
at this point it feels like to me, I'm in a situation where,
you know, I talk about the normy friends and we're just all in a
situation of why buy a PS five at this moment. Yeah, so you
know, that's just a personal feeling. But the fact that they have sold
so many at this point is kind of it feels kind of wild because we
are around the halfway point of the generation sixty ish, you know, fifty
eight or whoever it is again, exact number whatever, But that means like
being on pace to sell you know, even like one hundred million PS fives
this generation. That's definitely still really good considding, it's a for most people
five hundred dollars system. Someone else in the chat point out something that speak
someone you were talking about what gets them onto the next console. It's gonna
be GTA five six. Yes, so we used to say GTA and then
five. Of course, it's just a reaction at this point. It's just
a natural certain reason over a decade at this point. So yeah, and
that's why. Okay, So all this information is coming mostly out of Sony's
recent financial earnings report. They had a conversation with investors. Some of the
stuff comes from there, and the earnings report. They said PS five is
a little bit behind where PS four was at this point in the generation a
little bit, and by the end of this fiscal year, we do not
expect the PS five to have surpassed where the PS four was. It won't
catch up with the PS four. And why is that? It's what you
just said, because GTA six is not launching before the end of this fiscal
year, and they can't think of any other game that's going to have that
same effect. Final Fantasy did not. That was kind of something maybe they
were counting on, and that has not delivered that for them, it's been
it's doing fine. Whatever. Up, we don't have to have that conversation
again. But clear it's not GTA six. No one's saying that, And
so yeah, I think everyone's kind of like, Okay, we'll wait for
GTA six, And then if you are a third party developer or publisher,
you're like, well, we're also waiting for the switch to So everyone's kind
of in this waiting game. And in the meantime, PlayStation still has to
grow. They still have to find growth. And where did they get growth
from? Hell Divers Too is their fastest selling game ever ever, twelve million
copies sold already, something like that that is astonishing, But also, hey,
it's on PlayStation five am PC, so it's not astonishing, and of
course it's just that's how it went down, right. This is another one
where it's like you just the numbers make sense. Yeah, that's where growth
is coming from. You know, we're we're asking ourselves where does this growth
come from? There you go, you found your answer. A different market
that wasn't buying these consoles. Like I just mentioned, I'm the kind of
guy who doesn't want to buy one of these consoles, even I kind of
need one for work. And as I mentioned before, I'm borrowing of friends
right now today, so because I I want to drop five hour bucks for
a few games, and so many more people are realizing, yeah, I
don't want to drop five dollars for a few exclusive games. So it makes
sense for everybody that PlayStation is branching out. You know, there's it's been
a hot topic lately of exclusives and put the first party's putting their games elsewhere,
and we'll else have Nintendo obviously, but this is where PlayStations can see
growth because it's just a non tab market. I think Mike said that on
the show the other night. It felt weird at first. Let me,
just stop and think about it. It only makes sense. It's only going
to help everyone out, So why would you why would you not reach out
to those people? You know? Yep, yep, definitely. And you're
looking at some of these other tidbits out of PlayStation. You know, there
was the Daniel Maud tweet saying that PlayStation five shipped five times as many Xboxes,
also, something that would kind of felt like that was how it was
going. But it's just start to see an analyst say the numbers are that
extreme. Now shipped sold, there's always some nuance there, but that's it's
such a massive gap we can throw no once off the window a little bit.
I think. For as rough as things are for Xbox, I think
to me, the story has been for the for the last year that Xbox
and PlayStation both sound very similar in how and what they're saying whenever they talk
about their problems and what the solutions are to those problems. Regardless of who's
winning, who's lose, losing, who's selling what, who's who, and
how you know the other one's selling five times as many Neither none of that
is enough, you know, so it's like that's the really bad news for
Xbox. I suppose even if you were selling five times as many Xboxes,
PlayStation's like, shit, man, we don't know where the growth is coming
from. So Xbox will get a little bit of growth for a little bit
of time, and then they'd be in the same spot of like we've reached
all the gamers that care about consoles, and now we're screwed again. Exactly.
It's kind of a the call is coming from within the house, yes,
situation, like you were kind of alluding to there, because what is
their problem. Everyone's just playing Fortnite and stuff, and you brought though that
game to consoles. This is what you get now. So yep, this
is where the industry's at. A couple other things. Sony plans to reveal
its long term vision this month. That's just is mostly of them referring almost
all referring to to a conversation with investors that they're planning to have later this
month. People thought it might be the showcase. Now, last year they
did line up a conversation with investors that was similar to this with a showcase.
There's probably still showcase coming in May. That's the I heard. That's
what's happening. So that that could happen again. We'll see, but PlayStation
has to talk about their future at some point, right right, yeah,
and just makes sense for announce announced horizons. Do you the horizon over there?
Oh? Well they have gay No, I don't hate it, it's
just it's not for me. What's that Christian? They have new CEOs now?
Yes, yes, yes, we will get to that. Yes so
actually no, no, we'll just wan't do it now because well, the
last thing before we get to that, uh, the live service game Concord
is also supposed to launch this year. I think we've kind of known that,
but they reiterated that. Yeah, so Hamburger game, Uh, that
will be coming, That astro game will probably be coming. It's kind of
what's happening in this holiday. They don't seem to be promising much beyond that,
though not too surprising. That's con Band, Yeah right, similar,
right, I do. I also complain them, what is what is Concord?
Like? When I went to go look at the YouTube video when I
was trying to figure this out during Games Morning Is earlier this week, Sean,
the YouTube description I think said it is a competitive online first person shooter
video game. Ah of course, just like they're finally making one of those
fair game dollars sign too. Yes, exactly right. What does that mean?
This is what the description? What do you? Just like you said,
it's kind of just a generous competitive online first person shooter game. It's
I mean, I think that's like half of live service games, so pretty
much. We'll see if they have I'm sure they have some spin on it.
We'll see that. You know, they had that fire Sprit game that
they were working on with that team before they got closed down. Is that
the one got close down? I can't remember now, but so yeah,
I think that was also a first person shooter. H So it's like these
they kept these ones around and maybe and got rid of at least one other
of So yeah, I think this is one they must believe in it to
some to some degree, we'll see. Uh. Sony also did announce that
they have co CEOs, which is something when you first hear it, it's
usually like that never works. I don't in this situation, like this seems
like a pretty decent idea, at least in this specific case, because it's
it's really like, you know, even when you are a CEO of PlayStation
what does that mean because there's a CEO above you. That's what always confuses
me. I'm always confused by that, Like, oh, I'm like even
Phil Spencer's CEO of Microsoft Gaming. That's not a real company. There's Microsoft
company. This is just a little story you're telling yourself inside of the bigger
company. Whatever. It's like subsidiary at best. You still right to technically
report to someone else exactly. Yeah. Yeah, So it's weird to me.
So the fact that there's now just two different ceo in charge of two
different segments under PlayStation. So yeah, okay, so it's just one layer,
one more layer there, or one more layer above in some other companies.
At least I recognize that does take two people to fillishes a Jim Ryan,
of course, and we all really, in our hearts we knew that,
of course. Big Do you believe in her I do I have a
song about that. One who remembers that Herman Holst is going to be basically
in charge of the games and I can't remember his first name, sorry,
is going to be basically the CEO of platforms in the business and hardware and
all that stuff. He's a money person. Say that again. Kadiaki.
Yeah, I think this could work because Herman Holst is a creative. He
was in charge of a studio. He understands that he can help figure out
what the future of PlayStation games need to be to navigate this precarious spot that
every companies in right now, not just PlayStation, but PlayStation has the most
to lose. So he's got to figure out that side of it. In
the meantime, there is someone else figuring out how do we make the most
money from the success. We already had nishunokn work on that. So that
is to me, that's exactly what you want in this particular moment. So
I think it's a decent strategy. I don't know, what do you think?
No? I agree, that's the way you get stuff done in an
effective way is having two people who come from it from different perspectives. Because
in a gaming is a creative industry and as much of a business as it
is, you do need the two sides of things working together to figure out
the middle ground of where creativity and business practices can combine to you know,
make everyone happy on the development side things and make sure they're putting out the
art that they want to put out. Also, we're making money off of
it, So this is how they accomplish that. You know, maybe it's
a little unorthodox, but yeah, may be promising at least, right Yeah,
yeah, exactly. And it's like the kind of thing where there's always
been so many people sort of in charge of different aspects of Sony that even
when Jim Ryan was in charge, it was like, yeah, he's like
the figurehead and probably making some decisions, but he's delegating, delegating most of
that work. And now it's just like, well, okay, now these
guys are going to delicate the work just beneath them, and they can focus
on what is most important for their segment. And I think those are probably
different things to some degree because the games are going to have to change up
and be something new and exciting and can approach problems from different tiers of costs
of when you start up a game development project and you need someone who fully
gets that. I think so you kind of can't do this without Hermanholst or
someone like him. And at the same time, I think they want to
have a nicheo there and here they are. Yep, I don't know.
There's some other news that came out of all this stuff. But any other
ideas about PlayStation before we wrap things up, No, not really. I
mean the big point we've had with both these major consoles is the console war
is kind of over play. PlayStation is still in their primary platform. Yeah,
it's still their primary platform. It's still where most people are playing PlayStation
games, where you find growth, like we mentioned, you find on PC.
So oddly PlayStation Xbox are in kind of similar situations again like you said,
and so yeah, I just think it'll be interesting to see how much
PlayStation decades to PC efforts moving forward, if they try anything different like bringing
back a handheld or anything like that, because clearly they got to try something
different as just the landscape of game is changing in general. Microsoft is already
looking at handhelds as they've mentioned, and the more things like the Steam Deck
take off, especially if the switch to becomes a hit, they gotta start
exploring those our avenues. So I'm just I'm very curious to see where they
go. They seem more open minded than they were even as recently as maybe
like a few months ago, and I think it's good that success is like
hell divers doing well is showing them, hey, right, maybe we can
have our cake you need too, Maybe we can have a good console ecosystem,
and that is what's best for the console gamers who still want that.
But also we can provide games in other ways. So yeah, it's being
happy. Yeah, it's the kind of thing where it's like I was.
I was on Xbox two plus one earlier this week with Jess and Rand and
it was talking about like, oh, you know, the red line for
Xbox and whether Hell Divers two could come to Xbox, and it's like,
I just really struggle at this moment to see the argument against putting Hell Divers
on Xbox other than you know, there's not that many Xboxes out there,
and really there's there's more than enough to make that make sense. So I
don't really buy that argument. So putting that aside, like the argument previous
would have been like, well, we need to sell PlayStations, and how
Sony's explicitly selling saying that is not our intended target, that is not our
intended goal, that is not the future. And at the same time,
if you put Hell Divers two on Xbox and the people get mad, are
what are they gonna threaten to do go buy an Xbox. You know they're
not gonna do that. They've had every opportunity and they haven't done it so
far. So they're gonna get mad at you and abandon their ecosystem to go
to punish you for putting a game that they already have on Xbox. They
know that's not gonna happen as well, So it's just at a certain points
like if that can happen, okay, that really just opens up everything.
And on the Xbox side, you know, the way I said is like
I'm sure there are like red lines around Halo or whatever, but those red
lines are when we cross them, we better have a fucking plan. We
better have some way of communicating, communicating to people why we're doing this,
how it's gonna work, and it's gonna be a headache. But if it's
gonna make us this much money and it causes us that much of a headache,
well then we just got to pull the trigger on that and do it
and figure it out. So, yeah, some red lines, but not
not any actual red walls that they're never gonna cross. I think really you
may have even said, why would they not play on an Xbox simply because
of a why bother mentality, right, that's right, the sort of just
entropy, the lack of energy would be the biggest reason not to Yes,
yeah, well, like if they thought they could sell units wise several million,
then it would be worth it to them. But because I think that's
where we're at right now, just at the very least, when it comes
to live service games, where you need that multiplayer base, you need as
many players in there as you can, it doesn't make sense to just put
it everywhere. So I just wonder if they look at Xbox and they say
console wise, at least, it doesn't really matter anymore. And our game's
already on PC, so it's notre DNA befit there. So yeah, I
don't think it's a I don't think there are anymore in the mentality of we
need to deprive our rival of this game. Yeah, I think they're just
in a mindset of, eh, what's the return at this point? You
know? Yeah, that would be the agree that would be the biggest burden
and biggest barrier for them doing some of these things is why bother to a
certain extent. But then it's like, yeah, the rivalry, the console
war just feels so far behind us at this point because you know, this
is going to sound dramatic because it is, but this is how they view
it. There're kind of been a struggle for long term survival, and that's
routal is not like, well, they make money, of course they'll make
money. They want growth. If they're not growing, they're dying in the
eyes and their investors and in the eyes of their parent companies. And so
that is where the existential threat comes from. And so if and that that
one percent, both these companies are saying right now in this moment, we
don't know where the growth comes from. So if they're not worried about each
other, they're just worried about growth, and they're not, and they know
fighting the other one for the scraps and trying to take growth away from them
is a complete losers game, Like no one wins in that situation. It
is just two people trying to you know, climb up onto a boat,
onto a raft and pulling the other one down continuously. It's like, no,
we need to find our own boats at this point. So yeah,
all right, last thing, uhr, rumors they're going to remake residueval one.
So sound good to you. I'm excited about this one because, yeah,
I have been wanting this ever since the Ari Engine style game started coming
out. I love Resident Evil one. Uh. Me and Mike recently played
it for a game club. Specifically, we did RI one remake the like
you know, GameCube and now HD version, but both of us did go
back to the original to see how it looked, and man, have it
having that game but with the modern RI four style controls. I think that
would be real swell man, Yep, I think they're gonna I think it'll
uh. I think Mike said this when I talked to him somewhere, maybe
it was on the BombCast or something. It's just like it. It'll be
another version of Resival one that'll be great, and we'll not diminish the previous
two in anyway. They both have their place already and now this one's gonna
have its place as well. And I'm like, yeah, that's he said
that on the BombCast, So he said this Maybe isn't what I I would
have asked for, But if we now have three different games called Resident Evil
and they're all different, slightly different styles and all incredible, that's just a
win because that that's setting those characters, the events. It's still just really
good and exposing a new generation set who maybe look at even the remake,
even the h D version of the remake and say, eh, seems a
little outdated. Maybe now I want to play just making that more accessible to
them and maybe even expanding on it a little bit, because you know,
like they did then RI two and three. Oh yeah, well especially in
two. But I think it was a regular that speculated, like with them
to Resival nine, maybe you uh do some stuff to tie into that and
that they can like be near one another, and they're like, yeah,
there's a lot they can do. Yeah, especially because we all know where
nine is going to be set. We speculate on this a little bit,
but it seemed like, uh, you know, I still won't give details,
but kind of the end of Ethan's story in eight, So where is
nine going to be set Either in the future with his kid or maybe they
take it all the way back to the past because they are open world recon
City again. Yeah yeah, so oh yeah, yeah. The rumors of
like what doesn't allegedly Lea's open world, where do they take that open world
Reconsc's pretty cool. It seems like a really good idea I get. I
get pretty excited when I start thinking about that. Yeah, exactly. And
then Code Veronica next. Do you think there's a chance for that? Yeah,
I could feel Christian square me or like, I hope so, I
hope so, because that that's the game that needs it. Obviously they're gonna
they I five and six. We'll see if they actually do them. My
memory, that's a game. My memory at the time is I never really
played Code Veronic. I didn't play through it, and I played it at
the time, and my memory is people love that game even then. Were
the reviews that I write a magazines. I don't know, maybe the maybe
I didn't read everything, but when I would read the reviews of that game
in magazines, it was like, yeah, no, this is an awesome
Resident Evil. It's different in a lot of ways. Why does the rest
of the evil treat it like such a redheaded step child. It's got story,
Jeff, a real wax story with some maybe problematic elements. Yeah,
yeah, it's making five don't know. Yeah, they could really overhault again.
That's that's the argument for it. There's a good time there exactly,
Like really go wild with overhauling stuff there. I think you have something really
good on your hands. So and I hope, I hope we get that.
I hope they just keep going with their formula because god damn, Capcom
is on fire right now. They are just killing it everything we talked about
it. I get excited. Yeah, before we move on status, we're
talking, we're talking about Capcom. Do you sell the new the new outfits
for the for street Fighter? They be cooking. They're so hot. Oh
yeah, They're like they know what they're doing. This just that's part of
the modern strategy with Capcom. They know what they're doing. They know how
to appeal to the fans. A Kuma looks great. Can't wait to try
them out that new costume for him and everyone else out there eying into the
game. Those look great. Just know, I keep people coming back to
Street Fighter and all their franchises. They're doing great right now. I love
it. They're one of my favorite franch or one of my favorite developers.
I maintain they have the best roster of ips this side of Nintendo. Just
keep doing more with them, pull some more out. Maybe you know it
can happen. Yeah, yep, That's that's the big news from the week
that I wanted to talk about. But people have plenty of other things they
want to talk about. And the way they did that is they send us
some super chats. Why don't we take a break, we'll come back and
we'll read those that sound good. Sounds good? All right, back after
this and we're back, let's read some super chats. You got it?
First up, Tyler James Bay switch to name Super Nintendo Entertainment switch. Okay,
there you go. I still won't call it a NET. I'll call
it a Super Nintendo again. So oh, there you go. I mean
on the Supernintendo castole. Those are the giant letters. They clearly want you
call it Super Nintendo. Yep, that's right from I d k I.
Finual Fantasy fourteen launched a tie in to redeem mon due points for a Mountain
Zoo mount Is this part of the reboot that's going to turn Square Enix around?
Yes, boot and away again? Absolutely? So I don't get this.
Is this just like you really like Mountain Dew and you really like Final
Fantasy fourteen? Is it that simple? Jeff, I have seen it.
It's cool, it's dom it I love it. First of all, the
pun is amazing because a zoo is just a you know, this like bird
like thing from Final Fantasy. Okay, all right, so mountain is such
a good pun that I can all right, I'm more on board. You
see you see that shirt that I tweed out earlier. I didn't click on
it because it just was nonsense. I suppose I can, like look closer.
It's no, it's just like very iconic Final Fantasy fourteen like iconography,
but they changed it so instead of just like that, actually it's the icon
and they're holding a man doing from it. It's just like I dream do
or whatever gaming challenge. Okay, yeah, I like it. That's good.
I love dumb stuff like that. It's cool. Yeah, I'll meet
to I mean, I just got those tetris So Speedway shirts. I know
about dumb stuff, so yeah I see it now. Yeah. Uh next
up from zoommer Bs culture war outrage over yaske face palm. Yeah yeah,
yeah, yeah dumb. Yeah, but it's uh like who everyone predicted it,
and I'm sure you'd be stuff. Knew it was coming, and they're
gonna play out the game anyhow, and I'm gonna play it and have a
good time. Yeah, our boy mikey O'Leary's in the chat tonight, and
you know he does some social stuff, right g and and I saw there
they were talking about what But I saw their tweets regarding Yaske just all these
blue check marks like no, look at this Wikipedia page, just say it
didn't really exist. And I'm like, meanwhile, I'm going into the article
and look at these Smithsonian sources that they have for all this information. But
yeah, they're idiots. Ignore the idiots. Yeah, yep, they're just
being dip ships and they were always going to be. They're bigots. Yes,
fuck them of course. Next up, Ali Miracle says AMANDU is canon
and f F fourteen now yeah, the Sparkling Citrus refreshments. Do they have
surete in there? No? Fourteen? They should because they're coming this way.
And the next the next spansion is on is like I believe that type
of like, oh it is. I think that's the beach one. It's
a like open seas one kind of it's like okay, yeah, it's like,
uh, that's the beach one. Come out yet, I mean that's
where you're thinking, that's what you're thinking of yeah, okay, that's what
I'm asking. Okay, cool, dontrell that that's what is because very Latin
America, South America inspired, like I want to see I can see some
shades in Mexico in there, and so there. Yeah, it's sort of
one of those things where we're kind of just like pulling from all these different
parts of the culture. And then they'll probably have sure, mate, then
all right, I hope they have burritos. Oh really, it's okay,
fantastic that I have. I did the what the Game Awards the other year
when they did the door dash some stuff during the Game Awards, and you
get an emote in f F fourteen, so you just have like a pizza
eating emote. They're not great, these dumb things. Okay, Like God
shoved into the article when you put in the gmm rundown this morning, the
Fall Guys collaboration is coming back. That's another genius one, Jeff for the
fans because they have this thing in f F fourteen. We're a mini game
of just like basically do like crappy platforming because it's an MMO. Platforming isn't
really but I like that stuff. That's great. Yeah, and so that's
funny that they did a cross our with Fall guys, which is all about
surviving this like you know, crappy platforming kind of stuff. This like whiteout
style stuff. Smart collaborations. I like this. I always see on TikTok
Live people doing those. I don't know if they're mods or if they're like
fan games inside of Grand Theft Auto five of like, hey, run up
a hill while like a bunch of rocks are falling down on top of you
or something them like that. Like that looks so much fun. I'm gonna
go play that. Yeah, mikey O'Leary speak of the devil, who is
this clean cut young man? Yeah, I don't know. Get ahead of
place, replace my turbot, Sean. I don't know what to do about
it. I wish you have seen Dan's reaction when I joined the call and
meeting the other day Priceless Price. Dan was like, did you cut your
beard? It was a beard thing, right, say, oh my god,
Dan, just stop telling people how much you like visualize them in your
head like zero love that man. Yep. From Simon McKinley. I'm thinking
about building a PC for the first time in twelve years and considering a forty
eighty, but at a loss for monitors, any recommended specs or units.
I'm actually curious about this myself, Jeff, because I actually need to buy
another monitor, so I have a two monitors set up, and so I'll
probably buy a new primary and put this one with my secondary. So I'm
curious if you have any insight there outside just yeah, I mean right,
I'll tell you what I would do if I were in your situation and I
was trying to get the most out of a forty eighty slash forty ninety,
and this is something I'm still thinking about. I'm just like at a loss
for space a little bit. What I would do is I would go and
just see what the like PC part picker people are saying for a really decent
fourteen forty p monitor is fourteen forty with like a relatively high refresh rates,
so one forty four, one sixty five, and then I would get an
LGO lead like forty two inch and have that be my second gaming monitor.
That's what the Digital Founder guys have been doing. I know they just got
Every year when one of them upgrades their monitor, instead of getting a monitor,
they buy the smallest LGO led TV of that year. Yes, because
I mean you're gonna those things support g sync so and they have like I
think they have what is it, four x two x two, So the
text looks really crisp on there. It's not going to have that weird TV
effect. It's basically a good monitor. I know if you've ever seen John
tweet above set up, but he actually has the o let on a like
he has a really he has a strong desk and a really strong arm supporting
it, but the TV is on arm and they as like as hilariously ultra.
I want monitor that uses as is vertical modor Yeah, I love that
idea. Yes, that's very cool, so cool. I got the one.
I have an ultra wide screen in the corner because I've just lost space
to use it and it doesn't have amount. It's like, if I couldn't
mount it, I probably would have found a way to do that and have
it. But the those Samsung ones that are like super ultra wide but still
relatively big and they can kind of curve over the top of it. Season
Yeah, that's pretty cool. I like those. I can think about that
a lot. Yeah, but I think we said like, really, uh,
if you're able to, if this is convenient, hook you up your
PC to your TV is going to be the best way to like show off
what the GPU can do. Yep, especially any of them that support free
sync is going to be really solid for just being like, oh, a
decent game monitor because you can like just kind of let things handle itself as
long as you have a certain frame rate. So yeah, I have as
high high refresh ray I've been talking about, you know, CRT filters I've
been doing lately. Yeah, black frame insertionon to that. Yep, it
actually makes a huge difference in terms of those lgolds are very good at that,
very good at that. Yeah. Okay, next stuff from Willow Davis.
I just put silk oat caramel creamer into my Doctor Pepper creamy cocadut.
What the fuck blew my mind? I felt like I was eating crispy Belgian
waffles with maple syrup. That's crazy, Willow Damas. But I'm like super
curious. If you handed me one, I would drink it. Sound I'm
trying. I'm trying to find the doctor pepper creamy coconut. I think I
I think I just saw this creamy coconut right, Okay, at the same
time, diet, I feel like that defeats the point, but I think,
so, okay, I'll see what I can find that. At the
same time, I have coconut coffee creamer and kind of just buying them doctor
Pepper. Doctor Pepper's already got so many flavors in it. Yeah, el
grugg I'm surprised they still let Mike leave Ohio. I thought the point of
that state was to contain all those guys and protect the rest of America from
them. Yeah, well, eventually they'll really start enforcing that. You know
what's crazy is like digging my license today after having it expired and whole process.
Thank you very much. I passed my test, everybody. I did
lose a couple of points for stopping a couple of times when I was doing
the maneuverability because I didn't know you couldn't stop. But whatever. When I
was when I was actually going to like actually like sign up for the license,
They're like, oh, do you want the standard one or the blah
blah blah the new one. What's the difference. They're like, well,
you're gonna need the new one in a year. To travel from state to
state. And I keep forgetting that they're doing this that you're going to need
either the the like nationwide ID. That's what these things are. They qualifies,
or you're gonna need your passport in America from state a state. You're
gonna need your goddamn papers to travel in this country. It is so fucking
that made me so mad. I was just like, Oh God, I
can't believe we've reached this point. This is what, this is, what
this is going to spark the new civil war. This is this is happening.
It feels it just feels like like it's no reason whatsoever for any of
this. It's just nuts. But whatever, Yeah, real ID, it's
called real ID. Yeah, fucking jerk off hand motion from Adam GC.
This is like when you saw your friends after their first post COVID, you
know. But it's the Winter Weight, as iway was called, I got
rid of the Winter Weight. What happens as we move into the warm weather?
T Bucket twenty three Yeah, college football gameplay reveals tomorrow you excited?
Jeff also love new haircut sw I am excited. Yeah, I think I'm
ready for some for a college football game. I haven't been checking in on
Madden for quite some time. I probably might do that because the lines have
been so good. But couch mole something about it's just like there's more excitement
around it. So yeah, video game just hits different. Yeah, I'm
excited. Okay, Big Fresh thirty seven. Has Sean played Captain Toad?
I played it, right, I've played it too, all right. You
I don't know if you remember this. You reviewed Captain Toad? Jeff what?
Oh hey, discord, you hear that? I don't was talking about
the other day. They were like, wait, did you realize that Jeff
was viewed Captain Toad for game speed? I did. Apparently I gotta look
at that means I probably is on the WIU. Yeah, that can't be
right. I would remember that. I don't remember playing it. I mean
I remember playing this game, all right, all right? Review Captain Toad
Jeremy Horowitz no switch for hang On. That's not me Okay, it's a
switch for Captain Toad. Treasure Tracker is Nintendo's cutest risk ever Parentheses review by
Jeffrey Grubb, December twenty fourteen. Yeah, you know, it's happened to
me. This happened to me, all right, I'm gonna do after I'm
done, I'm gonna go turn my wu and see what my safe says.
You gave it a hundred? Have I just been this whole time? Been
like, well, I never played it on Switch, so I haven't played
it, I think. So. I think that's what's happening here. That's
so fucked up. I hate this. Okay, all right, well I
can't wait for the show to be over. Let's go, Let's go,
Let's gone. Ok all right, uh Chuck Towski regular game mess hush money
payment. When Studio Light Tango shuts down, do they offer them an out
first? Toys for Bob Style or no? Because ip, I'm sorry,
what's the question? Still hung up on my my bad memory? Oh okay?
Okay. So so when like Tango shuts down, do they offer them
an out first? I did? Okay, it takes a lot. Yeah,
maybe they do. I doubt it. I think the kind of the
way it probably works is there is rumors going around that the studio is going
to shut down, and so in that moment, people at the studio sort
of get the energy together because it requires a lot of energy to have that
sort of exit launch to leave the orbit of a bigger company to take the
company with you. That takes a lot of effort, and I think at
Toys or Bob it seems clearer at this point that the people that wanted to
keep that studio going were there and they did the work to make that happen,
and the people at Tango did not seem to have that same clout at
least to pull to pull that off. And I think that's partially because,
you know, Shinncht Mucammi had left and the people were remaining were like probably
blindsided and being like, well, I don't we don't know how to fucking
run a studio, you know, or to like own a studio, which
we were hired here to make games for this company, and so it's a
it's just a slightly different situation. It sucks, but I think even if
offered, they probably would not have known what to do there. And many
of those people are like, I guess, you know, going into debt
to like raise money to keep the studio going. Why would we do that
when we could just like try to just go find jobs elsewhere or start our
own studios on our own time. That's probably how that went down. That's
all just speculation. Sure sure from Matt Rare Monkey since Mike is missing Ridge
Racer news. Oh yeah, yes, yeah, they're making that game.
It's it's going to be exactly what he wants, and when he comes back,
they're going to cancel it. Ah okay, no no one tell,
no, don't tell. I'm sorry. Why keep the surprise? Yep from
rogers og Ac Origins is an all time top five game for me. Love
having huge historical world to explore with some light RPTL on this Shadows looks awesome.
I agree. I think there's just like with Honesty Origins in Valhalla,
and people just have their favorites in there, like they are weirdly different from
game to game, and I like the Origin. I think I like Fahalla
even better, and then I like Odyssey even more. Gotcha from O you
assumeing mechs playing Animal Well on Switch while out of power due to extreme weather
going on in my city? Any fun handheld gaming memories while out of power
When that hurricane hit Ohio way back and the power was out for like a
week and a half, like almost two weeks, I definitely did. I
definitely played. Yeah, it sucked, definitely played some games, but honestly,
we were like, we just got to like find a ways to get
the thing, the basic necessities we need to live at a certain point.
So I think that first night, I was probably playing my three DS or
something, but no, I don't remember any specific games I was playing.
So yeah, I do like it's romantic, the idea of like, oh,
the power's out for the night, I'll just go cozy up in a
corner and play a switch game for a while. I like that idea,
But nothing's coming to mind. Yeah, I I just I've always loved a
handheld gaming a childhood divorce, so I just constantly played Game Boy Advance growing
up, PSB a little bit later on, just bringing that between parents' houses.
And so for me, that's just what I do most of the time.
So if I'm gaming during a power out, it's just like I look
around, all right, well, just because yeah, I just always preferred
being my own little world, and handheld gaming did that for me. So
yeah, that's probably what I think. Specifically. I think we did have
a pretty bad power outage for like early evening into the next morning, when
Breathela Wild was out and so I was playing on TV at the time and
I was like, shit, power's out. Wait a second. Yeah,
I just picked it up late in bed. I'm like, all right,
this is the rest of the night. Yeah. Honestly, when the power
went off, did like the screen turn on because it's stop having power,
so it's like this like a little beacon, like you can keep playing.
Yeah, that's crazactly it was. Really, it's actually pretty cool, so
you know, yeah, thanks for bringing up that memory. I like that.
Another one from zoom is the Pope fighting CEO historically accurate of course.
Yeah. And when when what's his name fought a Nubis that's also in the
history books of course. Yeah what yeah you so let me see long name
on this one from Dragos Marinesque. I believe that's right, I think.
Sorry if it's not. Do you have any new info about PlayStation five showcase?
Uh? There were rumors on X being announced today, rumors on Twitter.
Twitter probably Yeah, people, I don't know who you're talking so stupid.
Yeah, thanks, thank you, yes, thank you for your for
you for your super chat. There no new, Like I've said all along,
I don't know the exact date. I don't know when they'renna announce it.
I just heard May, and I heard that last month, and everything
I've heard since then has reiterated that I've never known the date. I don't
I don't know where these rumors are coming from. That it could be announced
today. That seems, you know, plausible in a lot of ways,
but I've never heard anything like that. The little tidbits I've heard here and
there about like what could be there, is you know in that Astra game
should be there. It's that sort of that's how they couch it. It's
like that should be there to the point where like they're kind of like doing
the math of well it's been in the works this long and they're gonna release
it then, and they're having this showcase now, therefore it should be there.
So that's all where I'm at with that show. No idea what specifics
could be in there, but a lot of like really well informed guesses.
And now you know this Lego Lego Horizons game, why wouldn't that be there
if that's really happening. So we'll see, but I still think that thing's
gonna happen for the end of May. Yeah, I like we mentioned towards
the top of the show. Tis the season fris kind of thing. So
yeah, I'm probably gonna get some cap of announcement one pretty soon here,
yep, I think so yeah, just just the patterns Big Jimbo, Ryan
farncis on vacation law Phil, you're mucking it up over there, also looking
for a new job, kind of run activision jokes aside. I think we'll
finally see a band in this month. Sure, of course it's a it's
the abandoned stands have been waiting for their moment. Did you see the leaked
play test stuff about coaching? Coaching was game four xbox oh o D Yeah
happened and stuff. There was a recent thing again where it's like you kind
of it sounds like you kind of like control things. It's what we heard
originally, like you like you're kind of looking at screens and controlling things remotely
and I don't know, it sounds like night trapish. I don't know it
back you speaking, Let's go. I don't always got the theme song though.
That's the real problem. It just sounds strange. Yeah, sounds sounds
weird. It sounds so I don't know, is that a strench Oh,
that's what damn sure? Yeah? Uh and Panada Eater super Mario Lane coming
to s O this week reminded me that's the first video game I can never
remember playing. What's your earliest gaming memory? There is a amorphous blob of
Atari games. I kind of I think I remember barn Stormer, nothing really
beyond that specific. And then I turned five birthday getting nes, did the
whole like, you know, go to room to room to find these things.
At the end of the rainbow here is you're a e s. And
then that night going downstairs with my older brothers setting it up and playing Super
Mario Brothers until I had to go to bed, and they get to they're
much older, they're ten and twelve years older, and they could stay up
and keep playing my NES that I learned later they helped pay for. So
I'm like, yeah, fairy fair game. But yeah, my earliest memory
is pretty much Super Mario Brothers. There's definitely Arcade games before that, but
the formative memory is Super Mario Brothers. Yeah, I'll hit you with a
like a three pack here where I sort of like you. I have hazy
memories of Atari games because it was my uncle had a twenty six hundred and
so you know they play Covision with the Atari adapter. For me, yeah,
sure, just saying down at his place while my parents were visiting or
whatever and playing. I think I think Asteroids maybe have been the first video
game ever played, because I have very vivid memory of Asteroids, and then
I think also on Missile Command, which obviously I went to have known how
to play that, so I went back to Asteroids, but that was probably
the first one. And then more related to me and solidifying my gaming history,
I remember Pokemon Gold, playing that at the Kiosk in the mall when
I was a little kid on the game Boy Color. You know, Jeff,
it pains me that kids these days aren't gonna know this of like the
system like tethered to the to the wall basically with this like rubber armed thing,
rubber protective layer of propylactic, the gamer propolactic. Yeah, it's like
locked down with plants. And so I remember that being one of the first
game I play in store, and then the first game I ever actually owned,
it was a little bit later, was a Pokemon Sapphire. My grandparents
got me for my birthday, a Cobalt sp a copy of sapphire and that
was very special to me. I would really like one of those kiosks.
I oh, I think the Toys r USN sixty four or maybe GameCube one.
I'm gonna look it up right now. I want the Pokemon snap printing
stations so bad. That's like, right, well, one of these days
when I have, like at this point, probably like twenty grand or whoever
it is to blow, that's something I'll say about. For Yeah, I'm
probably I'm probably wait on it. It's probably like I know, but I
look at this thing. I'm like, I'm sure this thing is super expensive
if you could find it. This Nintendo Kiosk one, Yeah, it was
like this gorgeous it is. It was such this like two thousand and one
a space hot to see Beacon of Evolution. When I was you know,
however, God has spent like twelve and like reading about this in magazines and
seeing that little Mario freak running across those blocks falling down and ultra game players
and just staring at that image over and over and over and then finally have
my parents take us to to Toys r Us and the thing actually being there
and get to play that, And I was playing it on this thing,
it was yeah, mind blow. That pretty much the same for me with
the GameCube one right right later definitely uh and then sucks so rock So congrats
on being Captain Toad. Finally, I hate this. This sucks. I
hate I didn't when I laugh at Damn when this happens to him, and
I'm like, well, yeah, you should reviewed so many games, that's
bound to happen. But I remember, I'm gonna remember everything. This is
nuts. Ah, this is one of the greatest things that has ever happened.
Have games like Tunic and Fez over prepared us for Animal Well maybe yeah,
a little bit. When people are like it's like or Fez, I
go. I went into it like fully kind of understanding what that can mean.
And then it's like, what doesn't even go as far as those games
in a lot of ways, at least at least what I played through,
like you know, credits, And then another five ish six or six hours
after that, the guy, the guy that made the game, was like,
I put secrets on there that I'm expecting nobody to found ever. Yeah,
right, and that's that's and that's fine. I give definitely for me,
like I don't think I actually said this when I was like, oh,
this is a good like illustration for me of how I feel about it.
In The Witness, I like all the puzzles that are right in front
of you. In The Witness, I actually didn't care about all the environmental
puzzles all that much. It was fun, it was fun when I found
them, but I was not going to go hunting for them because it felt
like it's such this like hide and seek game and that does not excite me.
And I'm going to do all this work to find them, and I'm
going to find one and now I have to go look for him again.
And that's what a lot of animal well feels like to me. I'm going
seeking for a couple of puzzles and then it lasts for a couple of minutes,
whereas in The Witness the core game, it was like, here's twenty
five puzzles back to back, and they all get harder and harder and harder,
and that shit rules. That's for me. So that's just how I
feel about the genre. You get up the Winness. The Winners gave me
the biggest jump scare of my entire life, because in that game, there's
like you're working like in this beautiful forest and it's happened like five hours into
the game, and you look down and you see the shadow of a dude
sitting on like a wall, and we're like, what the fuck is this?
And then you look up and it's just like a bunch of rucks to
make the shadow of the dude that shit scared scared of shit. I don't
mean Dan Riker wants us to talk about his OATS code. I'll talk about
the Oats code if you buy me the N sixty four kiosk from Toys r
us Dan. It's quite frechia off, but okay, sure, not too
okay. And then hey you Peka Blue, Hello visualization masters, it's time
to binge X Men ninety seven Season one is done. Please. It's so
good. I got halfway through and then I was up to date because week
to week sucks. Week week sucks. You're just you're telling my story too,
so you can just finish. Yeah. Yeah, So now that the
whole thing is out, I'm I'm yeah, I'm gonna polish it off this
weekend. I can't wait. Game Scented I got. He shows up and
I'm on camera and he can see it. So there you go. If
you're buying me pop Eyes, so listen whatever, I'll take it. Dan.
I'm happy about the Popeyes. I really am. Yeah, yeah,
same I. I I love that show. I was. I was caught
off. I was keeping up and then I got busy because I have a
life, and now I missed a couple episodes and now I've lost momentum.
I hate week to week, I really do. I'm here to take it
away from anybody. I just hate it. I'm just gonna go back to
binge watching stuff like I. Uh. The one exception is like when new
episodes of Pokemon ro out, like I'll watch that with breakfast I mentioned before,
just because, eh, you know, kind of remind me I was
a kid. But that that's about it. Otherwise I like that. I'll
bingebatch harthing. But we are cut up on super Chests four now, Jeff,
oh yeah, thank you ever for the super Chests. That was fantastic.
All right, Uh, I think what we'll do is we'll take another
quick break. I'll get set up for our decision this week, and then
we'll get right back after that. See you on a second, and we're
back in the decision this week. So this week on Game, a Mess
decides we are going to do a draft where me versus Sean. We're going
to pick a team of antagonists, rivals, villains. How do you want
to describe it? You guys tell me. We're saying like villains in quotes,
so that will includes any like anti heroes, rivals. But yeah,
we're saying over arching antagonists, just like the people who are against you or
a person who is against you as the player character. Right, Okay,
cool? I like it. Uh, I'm gonna be interested because I feel
like I'm like trying to think of some good rivals or people standing in the
way that I'm not thinking either way, it's gonna be a good draft.
Sean, how are we gonna decide who's gonna go first? Flip a coin?
Sounds good, all right? And it is heads you go first?
All right? Shoot, all right, let's see here. If anyone,
by the way, if anyone wonders, I always do Alpha Beckle is how
we do it. I always wonder like how I should do these, And
like when it came to the game drafts, I had a pretty good grasp
on that. It was, let's get some stuff that's recognizable. That seemed
to work really well with the games because you're trying to hit as many people
as possible and I just want people to like, have that hit a dopamine
going. I want to play that game, and if you can get enough
people to do that, you have a good chance of winning. For these
ones, I really didn't have a good handle on it with the heroes,
so I'm like, right, And then I looked at her, and that's
why we're doing this, by the way, because we did a heroes one,
you and Mikey and now me and you're things. I looked at the
hero's list and I like, I was happy with my picks, but then
I always preferred all the MIC's heroes pretty much across the board, and uh
he did win, although the Twitter poll was very close. Uh So I'm
like, maybe I shouldn't have abandoned my strategy entirely, but I'm gonna probably
switch things up a little bit. I'm gonna go with people that I mostly
like. Okay, And here's what I'm worried about is people see these lists
of names, Sean, and they interpret it however they want, and the
like we can make it clear to people that it is like, which group
of baddies do you like more? Okay, all right, all right,
let's let's do that. Then that's w Yeah. Well in that case,
I think for my first one, I do I really want to go with
it. I'm just gonna go with Bowser because I like Bowser. Okay,
I'm gonna go with Bowser. Okay, calculated. I knew you would do
that. Yeah, and I'm happy with it whatever, you know. I'm
like, I'm gonna go with my heart. I knew you would be because
I'm gonna pick the superior villain, right, that was right? Of course,
yes, right there. I had you not picked him, that would
have been my number two. Of course, of course you yes. All
right. Now, I'm like worried about if I go that direction. I
am at this point I think I'll just go separ I think, and there's
still enough freaks out there. There's enough freaks out there that I that I
feel like this is the right pick at the right time. Yeah, I'm
going with a different direction. Liquid Snake ship, Yeah snake okay, yeah,
oh God, meld your solid one rips, dude, it's a it's
a really good game. I don't I don't know how far in a different
direction I'm gonna go. I might I might like uh think back to my
recent history of being on stage at packs in a un competition, a trivia
competition, and trying to think of people when people think of a scientist in
a video game, who do they think of? And a man stand up
and yell yelled doctor Robotnik at me so loud I had to pick it.
That man's name was Mike Vanadi. I'm gonna go with doctor Robotnik. Yeah,
it's a good pick. He's a goofy one, and sometimes you need
need some goofballs right right, and again, I think there's a Sega sonic
contingency that I might be able to pick up there, I think, yeah.
Okay, So first of all, Jeff, we need we show a
stuff. We show have established this ahead of time. Are we picking him
just individuals? Or do any groups count? Are we? Are we gonna
try individuals? Why don't Why don't you? If you want to pick a
group, throw it out there and let's hash it out. Okay, I
don't think I'm immediately going for any of them. Okay, Well, then
let's let's cross that bridge. When we get to it. Okay, let's
cross that bridge if we get to it. If we get to it,
yeah for now, keeping in because we have a broader, you know idea
here. It's not specifically just villains. We are including anti heroes and rivals.
Right, I'm gonna say Blue from Pokemon. I figured that's what the
rivals thing was about. Yeah, there's other ones that I'm thinking about,
but sell you later, you know. Do you want me to put blue
parenthesis? Jerry ok or yeah? Pokemon yeah, Pokon Yeah, Yeah,
that seems fair. Okay, Yeah, I feel like I'm at the point
where it's like, this is the right time for this fella. I do
have to pick some women this time. I got in trouble for not doing
that last time. Find some time eventually, But I'm gonna go with Albert
Wesker. I think he's a big dumb idiot and I I think I don't
know. To me, he's the kind of dumb idiot villain that I always
like in video games. Okay, Okay, Well that puts me a situation
where, yeah, I was gonna go with one of them. I'm trying
to think of not because I was gonna I was gonna go Wesker. Wescar
was out of ten my tongue. But I actually think I'm gonna swerve within
the same company and go Virgil from right. Okay, you know this guy,
he's got a little bit of swagger to him. I appeal to suck
people. Oh no, I definite yes, and I definitely Well, God,
I remember every time people would mistake I don't don't know their names,
what's his name for Virgil and people like, no, that's Virgil, and
I'm so passionate about it. Yeah, so people be so passionate about it
that I'd be like, Okay, there must be something here that these people
are very interested in. Okay, let's see here. Oh okay, I'm
gonna go with Ridley. That just popped my head out of nowhere, and
I'm very glad it did. That's like he's never it was not actually a
Metroid fan. That is the thing that is the exact kind of like ongoing
rival antagonist. I think identifies what we're going for here. So I'm very
happy with that one. Okay, okay, okay, m shoot, that
derailed me because that was the next one I was gonna pick. In these
ones, I think going first is very beneficial. I feel like you're on
your heels immediately. Now I can like kind of do my strategy. Yeah,
yeah, yeah, go ahead with blue Shehell let's go. Oh,
I could go with you know what, I think I will go and channel
mykey a little bit here. I'm gad Keka. Yeah, like I think
Kefko is one that I probably would have got to eventually. I'm just realizing,
have we done this before? We've done I think I don't think we've
done a draft of villains. No, you did the Mount the Mount More?
We did. We did a Mount Rushmore. I think because yeah,
paid Kaka for something I picked for something at the at the past thing again
for blessings thing, I said Kaka because he's he's top ten it was top
ten, top ten. And also for that paxt thing it was the family
feud. So it's a similar kind of thing. Name famous, be a
bad guy or whatever. I checked. We never did the thing before.
That's just gonna say, yes, Christian, it was Christian, Thank you
exactly? All right? That back to me, alright, I think,
okay, glad, we're only doing ten. Yeah, okay, just let
me ask you. This feels like it counts like a rival to me.
Another rival too? Uh in metal gear riding? Is he enough of a
rival? No? No, no, no, because he's always on your
side. He's always on your side. Okay, all right. It felt
like a sort of like friendly competition sort of thing. But okay, I
understand what you're saying. Okay, all right. That have to at least
be antagonist means they are working against you. Yeah, there's in some degree
against you. Yeah yeah, okay, never in your way, yes,
exactly. Okay, all right, I'm thinking here, then, let's I
feel like that one's I just don't like the way that pick feels anymore,
feels like it's lost its luster. Hmm. I'm I'm gonna I'm gonna hope
for the mass effect heads, I'm gonna with the elusive manned Oh wow,
all right, yeah, I look, it's something that I don't think.
We don't talk about like Biowork Amslon on the show, but whenever I do
bring them up, I am always surprised how passionate that audience is. So
I'm hoping that I get some love there, but I don't. I don't
know, but I'm hopeful, And I've always thought he was a cool character
and a cool, cool villain nish character. Okay, now, Jeff,
this may be a pull, so I gonna need you to put the parenthes
of the game. But yeah, no problem. The memes may be on
my side in this one. Right here, that's going to be powerful.
The DNA of our society going with Senator Armstrong from Melgie Rising, Right,
Okay, totally. I think the memes might help you out out a lot
there. Yeah, I mean he's a great villain obviously make America great again
back in like twenty twelve. Huh twenty thirteen. Oh god, just what
a what a cool character. Yeah, so many great one liners, dude.
So I'm I'm hoping, I'm hoping that people will just ye recognize recognize
that pick there. All right, let's see, I'm trying. I'm trying.
I'm looking for my Virgil. That's what I'm looking for. You're Virgil.
Yeah, that's fair, that's fair. Virgil a strong like technically he
is the villain of like one of the games, but he's a anti hero
kind of. Yeah. I'm okay, I'm like, I'm gonna think about
Smash Brothers. There's so many right now, Yes, I'm like, he's
on this freaking roster. I like, I like this. I'm gonna go
King d D D. I like King d d D a lot. Oh
yeah, I'm a big d D D d D mark In fact, ah
similar vein here. I'm going King k Rule. Yeah that's even better.
I thank god. I like King k rule a lot. Okay, it's
a better pun, right, King King k Yeah, it's good, it's
solid. I like it. I don't know recommendations a chat because I just
saw meda Night. Now I want to pick Meta Night really bad. Okay,
let's see here. That's bad, but I might do it. Where
how many your how deep are we? One? Two, three, four,
seven, seven? Okay, okay, we have three more? I
already got heamn. I don't need to do that, all right, give
me a second. In fighting games, like how do they have to be?
Like do you think they would have to be a boss or what?
How about you say a name first and I'll tell you if they qualify?
Okay, yes, okay. I'm trying to think if I want to go
with that series or that series, uh in which one from that series I'll
go with me? I'm gonna go with Goro for Mortal Kombat. Oh interesting,
Okay, I like Goro so much. Yeah that counts counts all right?
You know I think you know what I think of you, Jeff,
Oh yeah, you suck shall Ship I was the earlier than the thing.
I'm like Shan later Ship. Shak was like tay, I'm saving that one
for later, and then I completely forgot about it. Oh boy, damn
it. Okay, all right, is doing good about that one? Yeah?
That was? Yeah? Is proto man arrival? That's like, okay,
let's talk it out like I'm not good. So he is at one
point against you. He he becomes your friend for wait series wall Ogi Oh
sure, okay, all right, y yeah, hell yeah, already all
Ewo in the world. So yeah, yes, yeah, the originator of
antagonism. All right, I feel good about wall You did remind me of
something though, Just that's so I can't think out loud. Doctor Wawie,
Doctor Wylie, Yep, getting it, Doctor Wiley. Yes, okay,
yeah, it's like the big like a big bad maybe goes further than I'm
trying to be cute here. Oh this is the last pick. Isn't it
wonderful? We talked about this audio listeners. We talked about this during the
break. We couldn't do ten and then yeah twelve, yeah, twelve,
all right in that case, so we's got Yeah, I am gonna go
back in that direction. I'm gonna go with M Bison, M strong strong
pick. That also means that I can go with the pick that I've been
holding off on Akuma. Yeah, that was definitely like a Bison or a
Kuma. Yeah, strong picks, I think, mm hmm. All right,
So two more. That's where we're at. Okay, I wonder if
I if I did that with that undercut that choice of yours pretty hard.
I'm thinking undercut me. I mean, isn't that what you want? Yeah?
Yeah, I'm wondering if it would. If it would, I'm not
sure if it would accomplish what I'm hoping it will. That's why I'm just
like hesitating on it. Yeah, okay, hmmm. After why we was
pretty good, That's what I probably was thinking about now. I like,
right about now, no one remembers that game. That's a boomer game.
Uh. The Joker is from comic books, yesa no gokus Okay, it's
kind of it's kind of similar to the elusive man in my had at least
a g man from Half Life. Oh yeah, I'll call yeah, yeah,
he's a manipula of like. Yeah yeah, that that definitely counts.
I'm not Yeah, I'm not as familiar with half like because I don't yeh
terribly much. So yeah, okay, okay, gotcha, gotch. Jeff,
you mentioned that we need me in need more women on both these was
and I agree, lady dimitrisk Oh wow, my damn it, oh my
god, rifts is that right? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, yes,
damn you two. Laney is really good nowadays. Okay, all right,
so now this is the last pick. We're done. Last pick, last
pick, someone pointed out earlier in the show. Yes, my list is
baddies turbo batties. Okay, I'm gonna go with and I think this is
maybe the right pick of this moment as long as I can like get it
through. I'm I haven't played this game, uh so I'm not super familiar.
To help me, the boss from from from she counts, she counts,
she counts, she counts. All right, we said the word woman
and then I remembered the boss, So na ninety nine more. Okay,
yeah, let's let's not get crazy, IM, we'll get around my room.
I'm thinking, sure, God, who's left? Because I have last
pick? I have last pick here. Yeah, you can make it.
The game Katana is the greatest antagonist of all time? Does the game da
Katana as a whole? Yes, it's my antagonist. I'm thinking of like
I'm running down my favorite games of all time. But I don't think that's
going to help me out very much. Ridley, I'm not sure. I'm
considering Mother Brain. I'm considering was a really good first pick. Man,
Damn, I know it was right? What else? What else? What
else? What else? Like I you don't have to make a last pick,
Well, you could just go with eleven verses twelve. That's fine too.
You don't want to get out here? Yeah, you're that fuck When
I think at this point, there's one where one out, there's one where
I'm wondering if they help me or hurt me like that, it's impossible.
Yeah, that's probably not a good Is there any other? Mario? Oh
shit? Oh Ship, you're screw dude Ario Okay, Ship, Wow,
okay, okay, No that I was thinking, Mauser, of course,
I was like Shadow, I don't know shadow Oh yeah, totally, totally
the whole down earlier and I was like, should I do that? No,
that's crazy. I already have egg Man. Why would I do Shadow
Wolf? What's wolf? Uh? Wolf o'donald wolf O'Donnell. I would have
Let's Yeah, GLaDOS is the one where I feel like, I don't know
how much she plays anymore. Pyramid Head, Yeah, I'm probably. I'm
sure about that in my head. It's just like, you know, the
memes for Gladys Scots so overplayed that it's just doesn't really work on me anymore.
I don't think Mona would have Donkey Kong is interesting, Yeah, Donkey
Kong's that's an interesting one. I feel like over the years he's not eligible
anymore. But right Goro Monduma, I guess I should have realized. And
of course if he's a friend, he must have started his arrival at some
time at some point in that Franchisecula is pretty good. Yeah, I was
thinking about that. I think we would have we would have let Dracula past
the gool about that one last night. I don't know counts like that's that's
such iconic character from Castle mon like that, I feel like if it's public
domain, it it goes past the Goku rule. But the thing it's not
because we're not picking up because Dracula from the fucking books. Nobody gives a
fuck about that Dracula when you think about why My point is, that's why
Dracula is such a strong character is because you don't come from a video care
Listen, we didn't pick them. We don't have to figure it out.
No Dracula rule. Sure maybe all right, uh, I'm gonna read your
list. This is what I have to go against. Gannadorf, Liquid Snake
Blue from Pokemon, Virgil Kefka, Senator, Armstrong from Metal Gear, Solid
Rising, King, k Rule, Shao Khan, Doctor Wiley, a Kuma,
Lady Dematresk, and Warrior. That's a powerful list. All right,
now you read what I have on the Antaga, Jeffs on the ants just
you have Bowser, Sepher of Doctor Robotnik, Albert Wesker, Ridley, the
Elusive Man, King DDD, Goro Waalauigi and Bison g Man and the Boss.
All right, so this is how it works now is one of these
two idiots is going to take that back to the discord. Have you idiot's
vote on it, and we'll see how it goes down. The podcast producers,
they're the ones to determine who wins. That's right, we should be
playing to them, like. That's what we're doing here is we are playing
to that audience. They are the decisive vote. But we'll have chat vote.
We'll have I'll put it on Twitter and all that stuff. Have some
fun, well, do all the usual stuff like when Mikey's here. Yes,
exactly. So while we're getting all that set up, we'll probably take
another quick break. When we get back, we'll talk about what we've been
playing, and then we'll get the results right after this. All right,
we are back, Let's talk about the games we've been playing. I guess
we've both been spending some time with Little Kide Big City. Huh yeah,
I've been playing so okay, I've been playing a Little Ky Big City.
That's one of two games. Because I've been busy with something else too,
I have been playing that. It's very much what people wanted Stray to be.
Because people saw Astray and they're like, oh, it's the cat game.
It actually gets kind of like existential and stuff with like the robots and
it's you just like you know, you just can't do the cat stuff it
is. It's pretty cat. It's prescribed like this is where you jump and
this is where you go, and that is not how I imagine being a
cat feels like. No, but little Kitty, Big City is. It's
basically untitled. Cat game is what it is. And you you kind of
are just wandering around doing cat stuff, and I like that. Rius all.
It feels good to control the cat. It does. You know,
cats are liquid, as we all know, and so the cat does get
sort of like curve a little bit around when you like move around everything.
But it still feels really nice to play. I do like that. The
objectives, I guess you can call them that pop up prey organically. You
don't just have like a checklist of stuff to do. You'll see a soccer
goal with a soccer ball, and what do you want to do? Well,
naturally, the game taught me to like swat with my paws, so
I'm good swap the soccer ball in and then it gives you that checklist of
oh, one out of four score goals with the soccer ball. I like
that, and that's really what it is. It's just a game about wandering
around the city as a cat. And the setup is you've fallen from your
purse up above at your owner's apartment. It's like very the wild right,
I think you The final goal is to get back your house, and it's
where the first goal the wild Cat games too, exactly. It's very like
dream where it's like very cartoony, like the cat falls down some awnings and
like bounces off of some stuff and lands on his feet of course cat,
of course, And then the whole goal of the game's game back up there
to the top. And how long have you played? So I've been playing
basically thirty ish minutes before bed every night. It's a great handheld game.
Yeah, so that's how I've been playing it. And so I'm like two
and a half hours and I guess I've been playing thirty mine chunks over the
past week ish. Are there any like enemy encounters? No? Not like
not so right, So, like you go in the shop and if you
start knocking down the jar jelly, the shop owner will grab you and take
you out. That right, that seems to be like the most antagonism you
face in this game. Yeah, that's that's the most dives in too,
or like you go to the construction site and workers like, well, a
cat can't be here. Let me He's gonna walk through the wet cement.
I can't have that. Yeah, So he walks up behind you and picks
you up and moves out. Although, by the way, I did learn
they're one of the big collectibles in the game is hats. It's cute to
put a hat on cat. If you get the hard hats. I found
out you can wander in there. I was like, wait, why is
he not picking me up? Well, okay, because I'm learning the proper
protection baby, all right. So this is what I like about this game
is and this is one of the first times this has ever happened where someone
will say to me, you have they should play this game. They're probably
gonna get into it. Jan said that to me. I'm like, I
hope so, jam, but everyone always says that it never really really works
out that way. There's Mario Kart and everything else. Is kind of like
I kind of have to be their babysitting them. I've handed this game to
both of them and they are just going to town. Emmy told me about
that about the hard hat thing. I'm like, what, really it worked
that way? I guess that makes some sense. But she had just discovered
that right before they were going up to bed, and she's like, and
then I got done, so I took the hat off so I could just
go be a regular cat again. I'm like, Okay, great, that
sounds fantastic. So it's like she's like organically discovering these things on her own.
And because there aren't enemy encounters, because it is basic it's an untitled
Goose game, like it is like obviously there's like some structural differences in terms
of like how things are presented a little bit, but it's about causing mischief
as a cat and not having to like worry about like something that's going to
come and hurt you. And that is so she could just play at her
own pace. And this I'm talking about Emmy, who, like who does
want to play at her own pace? Addie will you know, she's fine,
but she just will go beat Mario or whatever. She's fine, but
Emmy's fully just glombing onto this thing. He was playing it all evening tonight
and I was problem, I'm really impressed that this game can work for that
audience, and then I pick it up and I'm like, this is also
still kind of cute and fun for me too, So it's like really straddling
that line between actually being for all audiences in a way I find pretty impressive.
Yeah, definitely, I dig it. I dig a lot. It
is a short game, and it's twenty five dollars, so that maybe a
sticking point for some, but it's also in game pass, so yeah,
and you know, I don't know, I feel like, if you are
someone who was feeling a little bit let down by Stray, pay the twenty
five dollars, this is the game you were hoping to get. I think
all along the game exactly has it been a little jinky for you? It's
been like sometimes the animations will break or something on me. I'm playing on
Switch, No, I'm on Steam Deck, and I think it's been smooth
sailing so far. Occasionally, like the character model will like you know,
go through another polygon in a way that makes the characters shake around a little
bit, but it never breaks down or a part and she goes back to
like the cat will reset to a normal state pretty quickly. So that's about
as much as we've seen. Yeah, I don't know. It's fun kids,
uh really enjoy kind of like discovering all the weird aspects like the thing
with the raccoon and all the other little tidbits. It's it's a good time,
and it's It's exactly what I'm always asking for. I want a game
that is something that really anyone truly can play. So I'm been I've been
pretty happy with it. Yeah, I've also been playing. The other single
player game I've been playing is thousand x Resist. Okay, thousand, one
thousand times Resists. However, it doesn't matter how you say it. Tell
me what this game. It looks pretty cool. Okay, So I just
started up because I I just last night was my free night to try out
a bunch of stuff. You know, end of the night with a little
uh oh no, no no. I started the night will a little bit
more a little Kitty, and they went through a few hour things. I
play a low of the third game I'll talk about here. But this game
is actually what I ended the night with because the only reason I sat playing
because I need to go to bed. That's the only reason. So what
this is, it's almost like a situation like you and Mike had without the
South Park game where you're like, oh, clearly that's a multiplayer game,
and no, it's a Destiny York. With this game, I don't know
why. I thought it would be a little more survival horror or maybe like
a slow paced combat game or something like that. It's someone described I think
in actually the Giant Bomb Chat or something very accurately. It's like Life is
Strange, where it's sort of an adventure game walking some adjacent with you know,
some actiony moments mixed with like the storytelling of Near. Oh so we
talked about all right, Christian and that we talked about still are played earlier
in the year and we're like, hey, where the you got Near's looks?
But where's the storytelling? It's in this game a game. Yeah.
They describe it as it's a sci fi thrill, and that's a very accurate
description because you start the game out and it just it sort of just hits
you with exposition of just and it's the kind of game where they hit you
with just words and senses that you do not understand, have no idea what's
happening, Like the very first scene and this is in a trailer, so
no spoilers, but just did you just start out with your character stab in
someone and it's like a very dramatic scene and you're like, what's happening here?
And this is apparently I'm right now. It's the first thing apparently that's
like a flash forward or something, and then this whole thing is as far
as I can understand, I'll try to keep it spoiler free, but it's
humans come into contact with beings not from our world and it causes some kind
of disease. Something is wrong with everyone after we come into contact with these
beings, and you play as a character, as far as I can tell,
in the far future trying to piece together what happened kind of. And
so it's very sci fi. It's very i want to say, like Grasshopper
manufacture. In terms of visuals, it's sort of got that like No More
Heroes either. There's a little bit like Killer seven. Well there's those visual
stylings. Yeah, Yeah, there's like a kind of a cell shade art
style and then very bold and striking lighting and everything like that. Yeah,
but and then very strong character and costume design. Yes, it's a very
much a like vibes driven game where you are put in this world is adventure
gaming. You're talking to people, and I have started to get to the
point now where I'm doing a little bit of puzzle solving. Uh. I
almost don't even want to say what the puzzle solving is. Let's say,
uh, shifting a little bit. You're doing a little shifting there, uh
phasing, Yeah, a little bit of that kind of stuff. And just
every time they hit you with a piece of the story, it's intriguing.
It's the kind of thriller I like, and the kind of art style I
like where everything sort of wrong. I think Georgie are just like a little
askew almost Like again, I'm not big TV guy buy I think like a
Stranger Things sort of that sort of a thing where like, huh, this
is wrong. And sometimes you get moments where it's like, oh, that's
really wrong. What is going on over there? It's never like, at
least so far, it's never like super grotesque or anything, but you just
see something that you're not expecting, and you you want to get to the
bottom of, like this whole sci fi thriller thing that's happening here. How
did we end up here? There's there's a mystery of Foot and yeah,
so far, just it's it's a really nice I also was planning on playing
this on TV, but so far it's been handheld the game for me,
and I think I might continue that way because it does seem like it might
be sort of just like a mystery novel for me before bed a little bit.
So yeah, yeah, the Steam reviews are all just like this,
writing this story, this, writing this story, it's all so so so
good. Yeah, yeah it and yeah, I kind of like got a
glimpse at what you were talking about the shifting puzzles and be like, Okay,
that looks promising. I wonder what's really going on there. Yeah,
it looks looks really cool. I don't know, it probably probably wouldn't be
for me. What do you think. It's the kind of thing where I
think if you check it out, you might appreciate what they're going for,
but I'm not sure you would stick with it because it is basically just the
story. I got it on it, at least so far. At least
so far, I don't know. Maybe if the story captures me, I
will try it out. But yeah, yeah, one thousand X Resists is
what I'm gonna keep calling it. I think that's how we ably say that,
because that's how you spell it out in your thirds bar everyone right,
exactly, Yes, yep, just came out and everyone seems to be.
Yeah, it seems to be pretty into it. And then outside of that
tecking so much teching, Jeff go right practice right, Yeah, I got
combo breaker next weekend big tournament, which I believe outside of I think outside
of free tournaments, because japan Sel does some of those uh combo breakers,
like the second biggest fine game tournament in the world, you know, like
big competition there, so I get good at the games that I'm playing there.
No, I've no, I've I did the same thing, the stupidest
thing a man could possibly do. I switched characters two weeks before a tournament.
I am I've let Jan down. I've defected from coffee to tea.
No, I'm a Lily Mane now Christian, I'm sorry. I'm gonna get
the old Joe down kick that was gonna be weird. Yeah, No,
similar characters, which I did not realize him. Man, that's where they
were going for the coffee and tea thing. But they're they both like are
mix up characters Jeff, So just like conditioning your opponent to do one thing
and then you like trick them with like like you'd think you're you convinced them
that you're doing a bunch of highs in the hymn with a low. She's
kind of like that kind of character where it's just like really tricky character.
I like the way she I'll just haat a similar thing by like the way
Lily does it a little bit there. And Uh, the funny thing is
I was planning on doing this before this ever happened, but uh, chicker
in it was Chickeren right Christian who won EVO Japan. Yes, I think,
yeah, very prominent teching player, very well known. Uh stick player
traditionally rolls up to EVO Japan. This is the I had no idea this
was going to happen. This was the weekend I was considering switching characters,
rolls up to EVO Japan. When's the whole thing with Lily and this stick
player using a controller, the controller that I use for fighting games. I
was like, this is a cosmic sign from the universe. Jeff, I
put all my money, yeah, the whole thing. Yeah, yeah,
I like people a lot of people for teching. There a lot of people
for three feart too. It's like fifteen hundred. But oh, I bet
it's gonna be a good time. I bet. Oh yeah, I can't
wait. Well, well you've been playing, Jeff, Yeah, I mean
so other than the Little Kiddie Big City, I've been playing a game called
Dai Katana. Oh thank you? What? Yeah? It is? It's
that is a frustrating video game. It is really baffling how how like they
even thought, like how those encounters are so annoying. You walk into a
room and before you could process what's going on, they are just hit scanning
you NonStop. And I saw some people being like, no, that's just
how the game is unpatched, and it's like, boy, that is like
I don't know how they even thought that was a good idea. These are
people who have made good encounters before, and my guess is the game just
got so out of hand that they weren't even thinking about that anymore. They
played it now if they knew how to get through it, and so they
like they just never even test played it with actual players and put it out
in the world. But boy, that is that is a game. That
is making me just lose my mind every time I have to play it.
Ghen Ro Merro's bitch, Now I am John Romero's bitch. I kind of
can't believe it is the way it is. I also started up dread Delusion
on steam Deck. This is that if people don't know what this is,
imagine like a really messed up Moral Wind on acid and like, just straight
up it is. It looks like Moral Wind, Like that's the graphical style
that they're going for. What's that really weird first person shooter from a couple
of years ago that I liked. I'm not gonna be able to think of
the name, but it's like it's just meat. What was the name,
yeah, flesh meat, Yeah, something along those lines. I was going
a different direction. Yeah, I have no idea what you're talking about,
but it's it's just got this really strong visual style. And then it's like
trying to be an open world RPG, like one of those games. So
you pick a class, and yet you pick a character type and a whole
bunch of things, and then you got in the world and then the first
thing you talked to is this sort of punished religious figure who is in like
an iron coffin that is constantly causing it pain, causing this character pain,
and you see like the low fi blood dripping out of it, and it
talks about how like you're not lucky enough to be in this enthralling feeling of
pain that I have all the time. So it's like a really messed up
world. But I'm like, okay, well what's going on here? Then
this character lets me out of prison and sends me on a quest, and
then of course the first character you made after that is like, oh,
you're working for those guys? Why are you doing that? So it's a
really an intriguing setup. But I'm playing on steam Deck and it has this
issue where because the CPU speeds are a little bit lower than the games expecting
on the steam Deck, when you move your character, the look speed on
like the right stick is very sluggish, to the point where it was like
making me feel kind of crazy. I'm like, what when I just stand
still and look around, it feels fine, and I had to turn the
sensitivity way up. But the problem is like it'll be still fine. I'll
feel like even what it's going very fast when I'm standing still. The fact
that it's a different like, look, speed when I'm moving the character no
matter what, just made like I can't play this. This is like making
me feel not nauseous. I just hate the way it feels. I tweeted
about it. The developers are like, we're working on it. It's a
CPU speed problem. We should have a match soon. So I'm like,
okay, I'm gonna wait for that because I'm very interested in this game,
but just the way the way it's set up right now, I'm like,
I just couldn't. I even tried, like using the touch pad and setting
the sensitivity very high high as a mouse, and that was even worse because
it's like when I would have that going around, the character wouldn't move at
all. He'd like very like moving like an inch per second or something like
that. So clearly something was broken. I'm glad that they have an identification
for that. And then lastly, Elder Ring Seamless Multiplayer. We played this
on the site today and it ruled. It is so much fun. Yes,
everyone was into it. It's the kind of thing and apparently it could
support one hundred and twenty eight players, which is just nuts. So but
it only supports seventeen. Like the top he crushes after that. Okay,
cool, I figured to be like, even if it did, it seems
like it's connecting to the host. So I mean, I guess Jan has
you know, the really fat pipes. Maybe we could got away with a
ton of people, but there's no way anyone's house would be able to like
actually have a satisfying experience with one hundred and twenty eight players. Even if
it was the fattest pipes, something would break down along the way, along
the ways, but with the flour players and also us just like all right,
we're gonna try this, all right, let's try that. All right,
let's go do this and like sort of like trying to figure out like
what we can do as a group. And are we gonna grind for a
little while. Yeah, let's grind, all right, Let's go to Santa
Claus and sell stuff. It's just like NonStop madness and also NonStop fun.
And I'm surprised how well it worked, and I'm glad that this thing exists.
I do wonder if like from software sees this, and like maybe we
should make the multiplayer a little bit more. Just like you go to the
menu and you pick it and you go or if they're really dedicated to their
No, the online multiplayer is gonna work when you have like the right item
and you have to have everything set up and you take your character in there,
and it's like you're only gonna be in that person's game for a little
bit and then you it's you know, cumbersome deliberately that's how they envision it.
But it's like, man, this is really special on it own.
I hope they consider this going forward. But yeah, I'm going to play
a lot more of Eldering that way, I think, because everyone was super
into it. So we're going to do some more streams. But yeah,
and then that it will be out soon yep, right, uh yeah,
I don't know anything else that you're like planning to get to you here in
the near future, because Ghost of Sushimi is the one where I'm like,
now that that's out, I'm probably play some of that. Well, you
know, next week is going to be just all hunkering down fighting game stuff.
But after that Animal, well I still haven't fired it up yet,
go check that out. And then what was the Crawl Country? So just
like you know, the avalanche of Indie's we're going to go over those two
afterwards. Yep, do you do you try crypt Naster? I haven't here,
I haven't. I want to, I really do, but I haven't
had a chance. If we uh this week for UPF, we're going to
be doing the Ghost of Sushi and multiplayer stuff that we weren't doing that I
would be playing like dread Illusion and correct bast Her for like a grab bag
sort of thing. But we'll find some time next week we'll make that happen.
Yea for people interested, the one hundred Extresses and cream Master are like
in a bundle on s team. There's pretty cheap if you can. You
can smullet Madjack. That's the one I want to and it looks pretty cool,
fun cool anything else we get these? Uh game what chef is?
That thing is solid for T and T are we doing none? You said
the custom games work right for anybody? Yes? Then yes, yes do
it? Yeah, g tn T next week you know boring any like last
minute changes because of something with the website anticipating, But yeah, schedules are
fluid and everyone's busy, everyone's traveling, everyone's playing SGF stuff, there's meetings
all the time because of that, those things. But boring any of that.
T and T PUBG next week sounds fantastic. Regardless that they put they
put all around Jill that you can just play and it's really cool if you
played during those science when the game came out, when he was like yeah,
and you have like a lot of affinity for that. Yeah, and
it's it's really fun. I've been having a little fun and like memory is
from the past twenty seventeen and like remember pre COVID puff g and stuff.
As another time. It's just really good man. I'm real quick. Sorry,
this is inside. But Steam is just so out there these days,
Like it's to the point where like even I'm like like blushing. It's like,
okay, the Ghost Recon on one side, Arctic Eggs on the other,
some weird game about chicken eggs, and between that, it's a game
just called Sex and the Furry and the Furry Titty Three Come inside, sweetye,
Colin, come inside sweetye. Yeah, you know, Steam Bro,
But Steak is a lost art like keeping some stuff, like you know,
like being a little koy. No, that's just gone. It's sexy.
It's three I got for bit. We have hobbies. Jeff All right,
you know what. Fair enough. I'm not here to shame anybody, all
right, shut up, Sean Well first first, let well let's hit We
got two super chat reads here. Let me do those real quick, and
then we'll get it with the poll results. Just Adam Wilson, as a
member for twenty months, says, hey, another a month, so thank
you for that. And then be Traven got snuck one in here at the
end. The government should ban console exclusivity. There's no reason for me owned
four devices that can all play the same games. A waste of human effort.
Yeah, I think we're moving in that direction naturally. At a certain
point. It turns out Dennis diak right all along, who thought who he's
talking about? Oh man, alright, let me close this poll. All
right, he's closing the poll. I'll close to the YouTube one as well.
Here we go. Okay, it's pretty close relatively speaking. The podcast
producers have spoken with fifty five percent of the votes. But I mean,
ye blowout YouTube one. Even I thought the YouTube alm was pretty close.
So the winner is the Antagga Jets. Yeah, another win for the good
guys beating the bad guys by being better at considering you kept undercutting me at
every single turn. Yeah right, I think I do think picking first very
advantageous. I know it's like it should even out somewhere along the line.
And we did talk about like sneaking a little bit. May we try that
one? Maybe? Maybe try because I really felt I felt like what happened
to me last time with Mike happened to you this time. Where it's just
like I got off to the strong enough start and then I was able to
CounterPunch every time, and you had to like be kind of catching up each
and every time. And that's like, yeah, I was outside of Gannondorf.
I was. I was just trying to like race to get these first,
and you always you picked sef Froth first. You got yeah Ridley before
me. I was like, oh man, every time, I know's how
I felt with the heroes. Take forty five percent. Uh, when that's
all considered, I see I'm losing roughly like forty five fifty five or like
sixty forty everywhere else, I'll take it a yell and say like it's the
boss motor fraud. Yeah boom picks yep, man. I thought I really
like your shout coun pick I'll say that much. And King Kroll, I
thought those were strong picks. Yeah. A couple of people mentioned that my
list picked up at the end there. I agree, yes, yes,
definitely you have picked up to the end absolutely. I think for what helped
me is I got start as strong and I didn't like drop off in any
hard way throughout. I think it was a pretty decent list. Made a
request this time definitely, ye yeah, all right, Well in that case,
I'm gonna hit the button. Takes a second for this one to wrap
up. Uh yeah, let's let's see here. What do we have going
on? What people know about so Sean hosting this one. Mike won't be
back next week, We'll still have a guest host going to be a ash
guy. Look out for that. That'll be a good time on the metime.
I think, you know, might put up a video on the YouTube
channel this weekend. Got some ideas, you know what I'm gonna do.
Because he's not here and he probably won't listen this long. I think it'd
be really funny if I finally just did my video with my argument about wh
why the game Boy color is just a midge and refresh m I much have
some it's for me, Yeah, exactly, So I might just do that
this week and that for fun. I don't know, go watch the Giant
Bomb stuff. Doing a lot of work over there. It's been really good.
I've been really happy with the stuff coming out this week. It was
a good voicemail, dump truck and all that stuff. Sean, you got
anything you want people to know about? I mean as always Twitter dot Com,
Turbo Shawn, Underscore and Turbo Shan, s H A W and everywhere
else. Yeah, I'm working with you on Giant Bomb stuff nowadays. So
yeah, just go check out everyone everything we're doing over there. I'm often
behind the camera, but sometimes I fill the camera as well, so you
know, play and check out there. Yeah. I guess you can go
use dance out code. Yeah sure, why not? Yeah? What what's
the old code I got? I don't know. If you want to,
you want to tell people go feel free? People want to go find out
the voicemall dumb truck. He's got his O E y V T j I
W. Let's go. Boy wait, I still have some of these on
here. Let's let's see what I have on here? All right? All
right? P y V two J I W y V two j I W.
Here's my oats coat my oh way, I did keep j I W.
I'm sorry at the end of dumb Truck you did keep it in there.
Yeah, it's after the music. It's nonsense, but it's nonsense.
People like that, the boys anyway. Okay, yeah, God, that's
a good time. All right, thanks for listening everybody. God, Yeah,
I don't know. I stream. I might stream this week and that's
awesome. That also my happen. I want to get back on it.
Thanks you watch everybody, I have ago, I take care of yourself and
goodbye. The thin boy thing dressed. I beat it. It is funny,
eleven and a half hours to beat it. It is funny because I
click one sound and then she clesing a sound and it's like we're having a
conversation. The best. Here's my k no. I like dicks bro the
Ikey costume, Rocky hot Hot. What are you talking about? Mm hmm,
Jeff, I need to google hockey, street fire sex right now,
young metal nails. What else do you want? She's crazy? She kills
you this No nothing hotter than that. Uh huh uh huh uh. I'm
scared of her. But that's kind of hot, exactly, see what I
say, yo, perverts, man, I think I remember the way this
character moves in that and she was pretty sexy. So yeah, yeah,
pretty good characters. Okay, I got the superest pulled up. Fantastic,
Give me one second and we'll get it right back into it. Oh she
she's gone. Chat he's gone. It's our show. Now what's up,
Christian? You were doing? I don't know. I'm just just chilling,
yeah, chilling, chilling. It does cool, though, I'm excited.
I really like the mask coma, the maskless skill yea, and that all
costume. Yeah. I don't know both the rags though, but the mask
is pretty cool. I kind of like default. I don't like love the
way he looks, but I do like that. It's kind of like fairal
Oh, yeah, it's pretty cool. He's ent her bear mode. Basically,
it's pretty sick. I don't miss the oguma on Street f five.
Now that that's soundflower, my fucker, keep keep it away. I'm ready.
All right, all right, all right, I heard from I heard
from Mike. He arrived his destination safe and sound. Everybody. All right,
let's see here. You think he claps when the plane lands. He
looks like the guy that claps when the plane. Maybe he has in it
before in his life, has clapped on the plane landed. I think I
think they have to wake him up when the plane. Definitely, that's probably
happened a couple of times because because he drugs himself out. Yes, he
totally. He just fucks himself up left, left, right, and sideways,
cold cowboy, but no, he goes hard on that. You know,
he's such a straight up dan. He sings. I can see it.
If he sings in the plane, they're going to sure enough of the
plane. So I don't think she has never stopped him before. Yeah.
Thanks, Now it's gonna be stuck in my head on. They filed the
showrunner of that show, so I don't know how the season is gonna look
like. Yeah, I want to I want to keep my hopes up.
Yeah, we'll see. We've got a really good first season. Yeah exactly.
Oh. Jay Tin's uh says that he wrote all season two as well.
Oh wow. So yeah, but they find him before they could even
do that, So I think, no, it sounds like you did that
before they fired him. He didn't, Okay, right, I guess we'll
see. I don't tell you what. That show they established such a strong
identity. I think you'd be able to bring in a lot of those writers.
Because he didn't write the entire season. I don't think he's showrunner,
so I think they could replicate that. All right, villain drafts, so
I'll have antagonists draft antagonists, right, either antagonists or like villain slash rival
while raise it for ittagonists versus main character. I love that discussion of this.
All right, Chu, you got pulled up so I can see it
somewhere. I will do that right now. I guess I can see it
on the stream. You're good? Okay, all right? How many are
we doing? We start? Uh? You tell me what do you guys
think? Uh? Target ten twelve if we're like feeling like we can easily
go over all right, okay, sounds good. I'm gonna bring it back
in all right, all right, I'm getting the pole set up out.
Put the chat pole up right now? Yeah, I can do so.
No, I don't know why I can do the polls on YouTube list you
need you need to go. I ain't asked her, so Christian, I
have to be on the on the channels that gowns. Yeah, and you
specifically need to be on that page too for the live stream, all right,
all right, and she used to be there. Do you have a
better name for my team? Yeah? Superbodies? All right, there it
goes. Do you want Mike's uh tinfoil hat? Do you want to go
first in the Twitter and the Twitter poll? Sure? Why not take the
adventures you can get? Yes, are I've done here? All right,
so get that up on Twitter and then we'll get right back into it.
Everybody, Thank you for watching. Oh boy, the drafts are fun.
The drafts are always a good time on. Yeah, glad we found more
ways to keep these going. All right. If any podcast producers are watching,
you have not void yet. I put a link in podcast producers,
so it's very easy for you find. Just click on that and then they'll
bring you to the channel where the poll is. Sorry, ABC, I'm
good to leave your message because I need mine to be the top one.
Reply. Uh yeah, pull in reply. Oh mm hmm. People do
love to hate on they listen, man, Yeah, is a lot of
fun. I do believe nobody knows who wontakuma Chad stop it. That's the
problem. Like a good villain. It's a good villain, but not getting
either of us anywhere. And in these polls, you know who's who's the
persona character you wanted to pick, but you were too scared to actually pick
no because Persona four is a mystery, I'll say the villain, it's a
murder mystery. So I don't want to get that way. And that guy
in that game is gone who used at the beginning of the game to spoiler.
But I yeah, like if you know, you know, And that's
kind of the problem. If you don't know who that care to you no
significance. So but from for I think I could tell you the entire story
of that game, and I gave and you play that game, it's still
going to be like the best game you ever play. That is my belief.
Okay, I think we are good one too. I thought about hades
Uh there would also be a no go cool rule though, but I listen,
I would, I would, all right, fair enough, Okay,
I think we should get into it. That's ale. Yeah, yeah,
let's do it. Also, just let everyone know, Sir Shawn's gonna be
a little bit bits your Thursday next week. But I just talked to a
J he's gonna do Ninton Docks and uh and decides for next week so we
love, and a week everybody okay, getting back in all right,