WEBVTT 1 00:00:06.919 --> 00:00:10.560 Welcome back to Parenting Beyond the Headlines. We're so happy to have you with 2 00:00:10.679 --> 00:00:14.519 us and we hope this finds you healthy and well. I am Amy Alamar 3 00:00:14.560 --> 00:00:17.879 and I'm joined by my friend and co host Sarah. How are you doing, 4 00:00:17.960 --> 00:00:21.960 Sarah? Hey, I'm doing pretty good over here on the East Coast. 5 00:00:22.000 --> 00:00:25.640 How are you on the West Coast. I'm as good as can be, 6 00:00:25.960 --> 00:00:28.839 you know, working through the end of the school year, which is 7 00:00:28.879 --> 00:00:33.840 always busy, and especially this year has thrown in some curves, so that's 8 00:00:33.880 --> 00:00:39.920 putting it mildly. Yeah, and I have two graduating one eighth and one 9 00:00:40.359 --> 00:00:46.039 high schooler. Well, it's ironic that you mentioned that because of the installment 10 00:00:46.039 --> 00:00:50.960 of Parenting Beyond the Headlines. We are welcoming author Nick Wagner to join us. 11 00:00:51.280 --> 00:00:56.560 He is the author of Ten Secrets to Success after Graduation. Nick, 12 00:00:56.719 --> 00:01:00.719 Welcome to our show. Yeah, thank you ladies so much for having me. 13 00:01:00.759 --> 00:01:04.159 I'm thrilled to be here. Love love the podcast, love the topics. 14 00:01:04.200 --> 00:01:08.040 I am a parent as well. Mine aren't quite yet a graduation minor. 15 00:01:08.159 --> 00:01:11.079 Mine are a little bit younger than yours, but they will be there 16 00:01:11.120 --> 00:01:14.920 sooner than I than I want them to be there. Right. We all 17 00:01:14.959 --> 00:01:18.079 know it goes fast. So thank you for having me. Oh what's our 18 00:01:18.159 --> 00:01:22.359 pleasure? I m as I mentioned, I've got to graduating from eighth in 19 00:01:22.480 --> 00:01:26.239 high school, but also one in college. So we are reading your book 20 00:01:26.400 --> 00:01:32.200 very closely, very excited for some TIBs. Now I have to ask you 21 00:01:32.319 --> 00:01:38.599 right off the bat. Graduation has been a hot topic during the pandemic because 22 00:01:38.599 --> 00:01:42.400 school years and graduations have been postponed, they've been done differently. It might 23 00:01:42.439 --> 00:01:47.400 be difficult to find a job coming out of graduation in this job market. 24 00:01:47.879 --> 00:01:53.280 So were you planning this topic before the graduate, before the pandemic or did 25 00:01:53.359 --> 00:01:57.400 you choose it because of the pandemic? Good question. So the journey started 26 00:01:57.400 --> 00:02:00.879 in summer of twenty and nineteen, so it did start pre COVID. It 27 00:02:00.920 --> 00:02:04.280 took me longer than I had hoped to put the book together because one of 28 00:02:04.319 --> 00:02:09.319 the unique parts about the book is it's actually ten chapters, nineteen stories, 29 00:02:09.360 --> 00:02:14.120 and eighteen total contributors, so it's not just my voice in the book there. 30 00:02:14.199 --> 00:02:15.800 I only did two of the nineteen stories, so I asked seventeen other 31 00:02:15.840 --> 00:02:20.520 friends to write write chapters for it. So it was it's a compilation of 32 00:02:20.560 --> 00:02:24.120 stories, which it did take longer than I expected because of COVID, But 33 00:02:24.439 --> 00:02:28.759 as far as like the timing, it is, it is, we are. 34 00:02:28.879 --> 00:02:32.120 We are right now taking pre orders with it, so hopefully going to 35 00:02:32.159 --> 00:02:36.520 ship out end of April, and the hope is that it is a perfect 36 00:02:36.520 --> 00:02:40.639 time for those graduating from college in May or high school in June, or 37 00:02:40.680 --> 00:02:45.080 you know, or you know it's the July time frame. And I specifically 38 00:02:45.120 --> 00:02:49.280 said graduation because it doesn't have to be college, and I wanted to make 39 00:02:49.280 --> 00:02:53.120 sure I had it did that because I think the the stories and the values 40 00:02:53.159 --> 00:02:55.639 in it are applicable no matter what you're graduating from, whether it's high school, 41 00:02:55.680 --> 00:03:00.360 technical college, for your college, etc. Because we know the people 42 00:03:00.719 --> 00:03:04.599 the school is very different from for all sorts of people. I think that's 43 00:03:04.680 --> 00:03:08.680 really an important thing, a really important concept because oftentimes, I know, 44 00:03:08.759 --> 00:03:13.120 like with my own kids, people always ask where are you applying with the 45 00:03:13.159 --> 00:03:15.479 assumption you are going to college? Where did you get in? And the 46 00:03:15.520 --> 00:03:20.280 focus is so strong and it puts a lot of pressure on the kids, 47 00:03:20.840 --> 00:03:23.319 whether they are or not looking college. It puts a lot of pressure on 48 00:03:23.360 --> 00:03:27.360 them when the topic constantly circles back to that. So I appreciate that you're 49 00:03:27.520 --> 00:03:31.319 recognizing that I was trying to be inclusive and I went to college and I 50 00:03:31.360 --> 00:03:35.240 was lucky enough to go to the University of Connecticut. But not everyone has 51 00:03:35.280 --> 00:03:38.039 that opportunity, nor do you need it anymore. To be quite honest, 52 00:03:38.080 --> 00:03:42.919 there are many, many, many companies that are now not requiring four year 53 00:03:42.960 --> 00:03:46.599 degrees, big name companies that many people have heard of, And there's a 54 00:03:46.599 --> 00:03:51.159 lot of different other other career paths you can go on where a technical to 55 00:03:51.319 --> 00:03:54.560 year of college is maybe all you need, or or a certain specific certificate. 56 00:03:54.599 --> 00:03:58.800 So yeah, I just I just said after graduation because I really thought 57 00:03:58.840 --> 00:04:01.439 it was it was broad. It would help anyone who would either right there 58 00:04:01.520 --> 00:04:05.240 graduation or early career in your first job. I thought it would be applicable 59 00:04:05.240 --> 00:04:10.759 to all those individuals. So you've indicated a little bit that the book includes 60 00:04:11.400 --> 00:04:14.759 different people's stories. Tell us a little bit more about it, and without 61 00:04:14.800 --> 00:04:18.120 giving up the book, maybe share one or two secrets if you don't learn, 62 00:04:18.439 --> 00:04:21.959 no, absolutely. And the funny thing is I picked ten. Honestly, 63 00:04:23.800 --> 00:04:26.120 they're probably could be twenty, right, I mean, there's a lot 64 00:04:26.160 --> 00:04:29.759 more than ten. But I looked back I look back when I graduated from 65 00:04:29.800 --> 00:04:32.240 from college, and like many of us, when you graduate from school, 66 00:04:32.319 --> 00:04:36.199 we really don't know what's next. There is no syllabus for this time after 67 00:04:36.199 --> 00:04:40.560 school, right, We're so used to this structure of school and then you're 68 00:04:40.879 --> 00:04:44.879 you graduate and it's now what Right now? Where do I go? What 69 00:04:44.920 --> 00:04:46.399 do I do? How do I know what to do? So there's a 70 00:04:46.439 --> 00:04:49.000 lot of different paths you can go on, and that was really the idea 71 00:04:49.000 --> 00:04:54.759 of what I wanted to put it together for I mentioned it it's multiple stories. 72 00:04:54.839 --> 00:04:57.600 It's a very diverse group of people on purpose. So there's people that 73 00:04:57.959 --> 00:05:00.720 work in the corporate world, there's people that are retired, there's people that 74 00:05:00.720 --> 00:05:04.920 work in nonprofits, there's entrepreneurs. It's a variety of voices, all different 75 00:05:04.920 --> 00:05:11.079 experience of experiences and backgrounds. Because I think that diversity of thought is going 76 00:05:11.160 --> 00:05:14.319 to we will help people when they read the book just hear from different, 77 00:05:14.319 --> 00:05:18.879 different, different viewpoints. As far as you asked not to give anything away, 78 00:05:19.000 --> 00:05:23.720 right, but I start off with chapter one just called real life is 79 00:05:23.720 --> 00:05:27.879 hard, Like, let's just be honest, it's not easy, and um, 80 00:05:27.920 --> 00:05:30.040 what you're about to embark on it is going to be difficult. So 81 00:05:30.079 --> 00:05:33.399 we start there, but I quickly follow that and again I'm not giving anything 82 00:05:33.399 --> 00:05:36.279 way, but I quickly follow that all about focusing on your support system. 83 00:05:36.319 --> 00:05:40.839 So who are those people in your life that are going to help you make 84 00:05:41.240 --> 00:05:44.399 some of those big decisions you have you have to decide in the next you 85 00:05:44.439 --> 00:05:47.560 know, say a few years after school. So that's that's how we start 86 00:05:47.600 --> 00:05:51.720 it. Uh, every like I mentioned, there's there's multiple stories, usually 87 00:05:51.759 --> 00:05:56.600 two stories for every chapter. There's a bio for everyone that actually wrote a 88 00:05:56.639 --> 00:05:59.439 story, so you learn a little bit about the person who wrote it, 89 00:05:59.480 --> 00:06:02.839 and they even included contact information, so if you were really inspired by that 90 00:06:03.040 --> 00:06:06.279 individual's journey or their story, you can connect with them, which I think 91 00:06:06.399 --> 00:06:11.079 is great. And then every chapter at the end has an activity to make 92 00:06:11.120 --> 00:06:15.839 what you learned real. So I wanted to help people not only read about 93 00:06:15.079 --> 00:06:17.959 like, Okay, this is how you know, this is why asking for 94 00:06:18.000 --> 00:06:21.040 help is really important once you're done to school as an example, but then 95 00:06:21.079 --> 00:06:26.360 here's here's an activity to actually put it into practice and and make it real 96 00:06:26.399 --> 00:06:31.639 for that individual and just graduated. So classify finding a well, you know, 97 00:06:31.720 --> 00:06:38.480 classify life after graduation. Right now, you know the pandemic does has 98 00:06:38.560 --> 00:06:43.839 made it more complicated. So what is the specific advice you think those affected 99 00:06:43.839 --> 00:06:47.439 by the pandemic and maybe the job market, what specific advice in the book 100 00:06:47.439 --> 00:06:51.720 will help those folks. So, you know, it's a great question, 101 00:06:51.800 --> 00:06:57.079 and I actually don't think. I think if you look at the and if 102 00:06:57.079 --> 00:06:59.720 you'll just I'll share. So what people want to go check it out, 103 00:06:59.759 --> 00:07:02.399 It's to Nick Wagner Senior dot com is my website, and you can find 104 00:07:02.439 --> 00:07:05.000 all the details there in pre order. But I have I have all the 105 00:07:05.439 --> 00:07:10.720 ten chapters listed out. I actually don't think the pandemic changes what I what 106 00:07:10.879 --> 00:07:15.439 I recommend as far as you know what to do after you graduate from school. 107 00:07:15.720 --> 00:07:17.800 I think obviously some things are you may have to pivot. So one 108 00:07:17.879 --> 00:07:23.439 of them I talk about focusing on building relationships. Well, building relationships. 109 00:07:23.839 --> 00:07:26.839 You know, during COVID you're gonna be doing a lot more of what we're 110 00:07:26.920 --> 00:07:30.319 doing right by by by interacting through a computer rather than doing it in person. 111 00:07:30.360 --> 00:07:33.759 So that might be a pivot. But but I think the core of 112 00:07:33.879 --> 00:07:39.920 building relationships doesn't change whether it's virtual or in person. Those relationships are what 113 00:07:40.079 --> 00:07:45.439 might help you. It's why I'm on this podcast today because I was introduced 114 00:07:45.480 --> 00:07:48.000 to the two of you through someone that was on my podcast, So that 115 00:07:48.199 --> 00:07:51.360 that I don't think that changes. Um. You know, the other thing 116 00:07:51.399 --> 00:07:55.519 I talk about, which actually might be even more important because of COVID, 117 00:07:55.600 --> 00:07:59.000 is the power of philanthropy. I closed the book with that topic. It's 118 00:07:59.040 --> 00:08:01.399 not something I did a lot in my twenties. Unfortunately, I'm making up 119 00:08:01.399 --> 00:08:05.720 for it in my thirties with my family's nonprofit. But I talk about you 120 00:08:05.759 --> 00:08:11.040 know, we talk about why giving back is so important, and a lot 121 00:08:11.079 --> 00:08:13.800 of people when they graduate from school think, well, I don't have any 122 00:08:13.839 --> 00:08:18.160 money because I just graduated from school and I'm just getting a job. How 123 00:08:18.160 --> 00:08:20.959 can I, how can I how can I be philanthropic? Well, the 124 00:08:20.000 --> 00:08:22.959 reality is that you can donate your time or you can donate your talent, 125 00:08:24.040 --> 00:08:26.759 so it's not just money. So I think that's a great question. I 126 00:08:26.800 --> 00:08:31.160 think a lot of this world would we would resonate whether we had a COVID 127 00:08:31.240 --> 00:08:35.480 or didn't have COVID. To be perfectly honest, that's an interesting topic you 128 00:08:35.600 --> 00:08:41.879 broach there, you know, especially now when things can get very politically heated, 129 00:08:41.000 --> 00:08:45.200 very socially heated. They're you're seeing a lot of activism, and I 130 00:08:45.240 --> 00:08:48.799 think it's a really great thing to think about, you know, what is 131 00:08:48.840 --> 00:08:50.480 my role in the world, and how do I give back in more ways 132 00:08:50.480 --> 00:08:54.360 than just getting a job, right, and like taking care of myself. 133 00:08:54.799 --> 00:08:58.440 So I think that could be a really I didn't really, I didn't really 134 00:08:58.480 --> 00:09:01.799 think about that when I was seeing that the topic of what's next, you 135 00:09:01.840 --> 00:09:07.000 know, Yeah, and you bring up a good point just about um, 136 00:09:07.000 --> 00:09:11.919 and I'll pivot what you said amy to one of the topics is about um, 137 00:09:11.120 --> 00:09:16.120 you know, your personal brand and how important that is not only when 138 00:09:16.120 --> 00:09:18.879 you're in school, but of course when you're done with school. And I 139 00:09:18.919 --> 00:09:22.759 think the interesting thing and when I was going to the University of Connecticut, 140 00:09:22.720 --> 00:09:26.960 marcut Zucker work was building Facebook at Harvard, so I didn't have social media 141 00:09:26.039 --> 00:09:33.279 when I went to college. You can literally destroy your personal brand with one 142 00:09:33.320 --> 00:09:37.600 with one post, which is a really scary thing that we didn't have to 143 00:09:37.600 --> 00:09:41.000 deal with twenty years ago. So I have that as a topic because it 144 00:09:41.159 --> 00:09:46.080 is so critical for people that are just graduating from school to to realize that 145 00:09:46.200 --> 00:09:50.960 what they say personally can absolutely affect you know, them getting a job, 146 00:09:50.200 --> 00:09:54.759 and and and and and and you know, different opportunities for them in the 147 00:09:54.799 --> 00:09:56.759 future. So I think you bring up a great point. I think that 148 00:09:56.919 --> 00:10:03.600 is a good point to bring up. I used to be asked to go 149 00:10:03.639 --> 00:10:07.759 into my son's schools and talk about my career as a journalist a little bit, 150 00:10:09.200 --> 00:10:13.440 excuse me, And one of the things that I would always hit on 151 00:10:13.679 --> 00:10:20.320 was focus. Finding focus after you graduate? Is that something you get into 152 00:10:20.320 --> 00:10:24.519 it at all? So there is a topic about it's called it's called your 153 00:10:24.559 --> 00:10:30.600 career journey and I have two very different to people talk about their career journeys. 154 00:10:31.120 --> 00:10:33.200 And honestly, so, Sarah, you bring up a really interesting point, 155 00:10:33.200 --> 00:10:37.200 and we could do a whole We could do a whole book and podcast 156 00:10:37.360 --> 00:10:41.120 episode just about that what you just said. The focus. One of the 157 00:10:41.120 --> 00:10:43.720 things you talk about in the book is there a lot of people graduate from 158 00:10:43.720 --> 00:10:46.519 school, they get a job, they're sitting in a cube book and they 159 00:10:46.519 --> 00:10:48.720 realize, oh my gosh, I hate my job. What do I do 160 00:10:48.759 --> 00:10:54.000 now? And it's terrifying for people, right because they might have just gone 161 00:10:54.039 --> 00:10:56.159 to college for four years and spend a boatload of money and realize they don't 162 00:10:56.200 --> 00:11:01.559 like what they do. So I think the everyone's career journey is unique. 163 00:11:01.639 --> 00:11:05.799 I think that's that's like where I kind of start is, that's totally it's 164 00:11:05.840 --> 00:11:09.480 it's your journey. You got to own it. I actually think that we 165 00:11:09.879 --> 00:11:15.480 put an over emphasis on We talk to kids all throughout like you need what 166 00:11:15.519 --> 00:11:16.159 are gonna be when you grow up? What are gonna be when you grow 167 00:11:16.240 --> 00:11:18.000 up? I didn't. I still don't know what I want to be when 168 00:11:18.000 --> 00:11:20.720 I grow up. Let me let me be honest with you, right, 169 00:11:20.799 --> 00:11:26.200 So, I actually think that there should be a focus on you fulfilling what 170 00:11:26.279 --> 00:11:30.720 makes you happy and what makes you feel successful. But it shouldn't be a 171 00:11:30.759 --> 00:11:33.960 focus on what other people think you should be doing to make yourself happy. 172 00:11:35.240 --> 00:11:37.919 And if that means leaving your job and finding and doing something else, it 173 00:11:37.960 --> 00:11:41.600 could be that, or it could be maybe you do your job, but 174 00:11:41.639 --> 00:11:46.039 you really got a ton of fulfillment before working for a nonprofit outside of work. 175 00:11:46.120 --> 00:11:48.360 Right, There's there's ways that you can fulfill you know, your personal 176 00:11:48.440 --> 00:11:52.720 dreams. It might not be through your job. So I think I think 177 00:11:52.720 --> 00:11:56.240 people have to think about it because it's just a unique perspective for every single 178 00:11:56.279 --> 00:12:01.559 individual. There's different kind of focus. Two. I mean, I felt 179 00:12:01.679 --> 00:12:05.240 I used to say that because I felt like some of my friends graduated from 180 00:12:05.240 --> 00:12:09.799 college and really didn't know what to do. You know, so even if 181 00:12:09.799 --> 00:12:13.519 the focus is on one thing and then you change or whatever, I don't 182 00:12:13.559 --> 00:12:16.799 think you want a kid graduating and saying what next? Like they should think 183 00:12:16.840 --> 00:12:22.360 about that no matter what it is, right and kind of have some plan 184 00:12:22.519 --> 00:12:26.840 or some direction, even if that direction takes them in different ways. Yeah. 185 00:12:26.080 --> 00:12:30.840 I think the hope is that throughout school they can try different things to 186 00:12:30.879 --> 00:12:33.120 figure out what they do like and what they don't like. I think I 187 00:12:33.120 --> 00:12:37.600 think that's so important. But another chapter in the book is called risk Taking 188 00:12:37.600 --> 00:12:41.320 in your Twenties. I was I'm just going to ask you about risk taking. 189 00:12:41.440 --> 00:12:45.440 Yeah, So, as someone myself who quit my corporate job to work 190 00:12:45.480 --> 00:12:50.279 for myself and run my own business for four years, I felt like I 191 00:12:50.360 --> 00:12:54.039 just had to include this. So I have two stories in the book about 192 00:12:54.120 --> 00:12:56.440 risk taking your twenties. One was about someone who did just that, left 193 00:12:56.480 --> 00:13:00.480 the job to start a business. The other one is the other story about 194 00:13:00.519 --> 00:13:03.799 moving across the country for a job. I bring it up because if you're 195 00:13:03.799 --> 00:13:07.919 going to take a risk on making a move across country or starting a business 196 00:13:09.200 --> 00:13:13.399 or changing industries. I did it when I didn't have kids, I didn't 197 00:13:13.399 --> 00:13:16.120 have a wife, and I had a lot less to you know, financial 198 00:13:16.120 --> 00:13:20.080 responsibility. That's a really good time for a lot of people to do that. 199 00:13:20.159 --> 00:13:24.360 So I think when people think about their careers and what could be and 200 00:13:24.440 --> 00:13:30.120 you Sharah back to your point about focus, and I think it that now 201 00:13:30.200 --> 00:13:33.720 is the time, right after school to make those those those big bold moves. 202 00:13:33.720 --> 00:13:39.039 And I'm giggling over here in California as we contemplate another relocation. I've 203 00:13:39.039 --> 00:13:45.840 been made in my forties, so you can take risks later. And I 204 00:13:45.879 --> 00:13:48.440 think that's a good point. It's like when we say that kids are better 205 00:13:48.480 --> 00:13:52.600 skiers and adults because we're like so afraid to take risks on the ski mountain. 206 00:13:52.639 --> 00:13:56.000 I mean, I think we get into our routine and forget that you 207 00:13:56.039 --> 00:13:58.440 can kind of take risks always. But you're right in terms of I would 208 00:13:58.480 --> 00:14:01.639 think it was a little bit of a slippery slope, Nick in writing a 209 00:14:01.639 --> 00:14:05.600 book, because you know, some people would want to say, think about 210 00:14:05.639 --> 00:14:09.399 a four oh one k, think about a good paycheck, start your life 211 00:14:09.399 --> 00:14:11.279 off that way. But then the other side would be follow your passion, 212 00:14:11.320 --> 00:14:16.879 don't worry about those things next. And I you know, I've said often 213 00:14:16.879 --> 00:14:20.840 in the news business, where we work these crazy hours, you know, 214 00:14:20.879 --> 00:14:24.159 the overnight shift, the weekend shift, like do that stuff when you're young, 215 00:14:24.159 --> 00:14:26.639 say yes to the jobs, do whatever you need to do to pound 216 00:14:26.639 --> 00:14:30.559 the pavement, because you're not going to want to be doing that in your 217 00:14:30.600 --> 00:14:33.200 thirties or forties. Right, So, great, great point, Sarah. 218 00:14:33.200 --> 00:14:35.960 And one of the one of the chapters, the importance of family and friends. 219 00:14:37.039 --> 00:14:39.519 I have there's a story in there. One of my friends that I've 220 00:14:39.519 --> 00:14:45.879 known since elementary school. He produces TV shows, which, to your exact 221 00:14:45.879 --> 00:14:48.559 point, he was on the road six to eight months a year, and 222 00:14:48.960 --> 00:14:52.879 he did all through his twenties and now he has a little daughter, and 223 00:14:52.159 --> 00:14:54.279 guess what, he doesn't want to be on the road six to eight months 224 00:14:54.279 --> 00:14:58.080 a year. So yeah, so there's there's a lot. And again you 225 00:14:58.200 --> 00:15:03.480 mentioned me that you know, some of these stories will absolutely resonate with people 226 00:15:03.519 --> 00:15:07.440 that are obviously further out of further out of you know, finishing school. 227 00:15:07.519 --> 00:15:11.519 But I focused on that that early career, that early career group, because 228 00:15:13.440 --> 00:15:16.559 I have a passion for helping people like try to figure out what's next. 229 00:15:16.559 --> 00:15:18.360 And I just remember myself at that age and I was just like, what 230 00:15:18.399 --> 00:15:22.200 am I supposed to do now? So I just I hope all these stories 231 00:15:22.200 --> 00:15:26.200 can really help give back and give people some hope. I think it's great, 232 00:15:26.200 --> 00:15:28.639 and I think it's great that you have a variety for people to see, 233 00:15:28.679 --> 00:15:33.639 so that there isn't you know that one path, there's there's ideas that 234 00:15:33.720 --> 00:15:37.360 may resonate with you. Maybe it is time to take your risk, Maybe 235 00:15:37.399 --> 00:15:39.200 it is time to you know, focus in on the four one. You 236 00:15:39.240 --> 00:15:43.399 know, like you can see different paths that resonate with you, and it's 237 00:15:43.879 --> 00:15:46.559 I think it kind of gives permission to do something really smart, which is 238 00:15:46.600 --> 00:15:52.879 great. And I also didn't I didn't want it to be just Nick saying 239 00:15:52.919 --> 00:15:56.399 oh you should do this, this and this, and because people would assume 240 00:15:56.440 --> 00:16:00.559 automatically ask well, what makes you the expert to answer all the questions? 241 00:16:00.799 --> 00:16:03.000 And I don't. I don't have all the answers and I openly admit that. 242 00:16:03.080 --> 00:16:07.320 So that's why I think having this diverse group of voices it gives it 243 00:16:07.360 --> 00:16:11.960 makes the book that much more powerful. What makes it seem like you're giving 244 00:16:11.000 --> 00:16:17.960 tools to figure it out yourself. As we sort of wind Down here, 245 00:16:18.039 --> 00:16:21.879 Nick, why don't you tell us about you? When we were exchanging emails, 246 00:16:21.919 --> 00:16:26.759 I saw in your email signature that you're like a motivational speaker and author. 247 00:16:26.840 --> 00:16:30.559 Your sounds a little bit like you're a jack of all trades. Yeah, 248 00:16:30.600 --> 00:16:33.960 So who am I? So I would say that I'm a husband and 249 00:16:33.960 --> 00:16:37.399 a father first, It's always the most important to me. I don't mentioned 250 00:16:37.440 --> 00:16:42.240 I have three kids. I'm a Connecticut fanboy, so Sarah and I have 251 00:16:42.240 --> 00:16:45.639 something in common because we're both in Connecticut. But no, I mean I 252 00:16:45.919 --> 00:16:51.360 consider myself an innovator, right, I'm an entrepreneur at heart. I currently 253 00:16:51.399 --> 00:16:55.320 have a full time job in the in the corporate world, working in human 254 00:16:55.360 --> 00:16:59.440 resources. But I mentioned I have of a nonprofit with my my family. 255 00:16:59.480 --> 00:17:02.320 Have as an profit where I get to give back through a variety of different 256 00:17:02.320 --> 00:17:06.079 ways. One of them is this book is part of one of the initiatives 257 00:17:06.119 --> 00:17:08.880 it's called the Full Potential Movement, where we help individuals really try to figure 258 00:17:08.920 --> 00:17:14.119 out what could be with their careers. So it's about empowering people and inspiring 259 00:17:14.160 --> 00:17:18.319 people about hearing from other people's career journeys and what could what could be? 260 00:17:18.799 --> 00:17:23.279 And this book is I joke. It's the first of hopefully more to come, 261 00:17:23.359 --> 00:17:29.079 So I'm being ambitious and hopefully we can maybe release more in the future. 262 00:17:29.119 --> 00:17:32.640 But I like to help people. It's probably the best way to describe 263 00:17:32.680 --> 00:17:37.480 it. And my entrepreneurial spirit comes out and everything I pretty much do. 264 00:17:38.160 --> 00:17:41.680 So you know, this is timed up great for this book to be a 265 00:17:41.720 --> 00:17:47.799 graduation gift. Whether it's a graduation that's virtual or in person or whatever, 266 00:17:47.880 --> 00:17:51.519 doesn't really matter. How can folks find this book? Yeah, thank you 267 00:17:51.559 --> 00:17:56.200 for asking. So I'm super excited to be supporting one of my previous managers 268 00:17:56.240 --> 00:18:00.440 who opened a bookstore in glaston America, Connecticut called Riverbend Bookshop. So she 269 00:18:00.480 --> 00:18:03.920 has her own independent bookstore she is publishing for me. I'm her first book 270 00:18:03.920 --> 00:18:07.200 that she's publishing through her bookstore. So it's if you go to Nick Wagner 271 00:18:07.279 --> 00:18:11.720 senor dot com backslash book you can see all the details about the book, 272 00:18:11.839 --> 00:18:14.720 learn more about it, and pre order there. And again we're doing the 273 00:18:14.720 --> 00:18:17.799 pre order now and expecting books to shit right around the end of April. 274 00:18:18.720 --> 00:18:22.240 Gosh, there's nothing better than the independent bookstore, my favorite pat. I 275 00:18:22.240 --> 00:18:26.759 am happy to support her and all the independent bookstores across the country, so 276 00:18:26.920 --> 00:18:30.000 really, as a former small business owner, I wanted to make sure I 277 00:18:30.039 --> 00:18:33.960 did that, so I'm pretty excited. Well, thank you so much for 278 00:18:33.119 --> 00:18:37.880 joining us, as is super helpful, and we encourage our listeners to contact 279 00:18:37.920 --> 00:18:41.839 their local bookstores to request the book so that it can get spread out. 280 00:18:41.839 --> 00:18:45.720 We really appreciate you listener for joining us, and please do let us know 281 00:18:45.799 --> 00:18:48.519 if they are topics that you know, you want to hear about, you 282 00:18:48.599 --> 00:18:53.319 want to talk about. You can find me at Sarah Cody Media, Amy 283 00:18:53.880 --> 00:18:59.839 at Amy Almar and all the social media. 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