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Continue to sign a Joe despression of
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alt right and really moving right right
now. There are a thousand UFO sightings

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reported around the world every month.
Ninety percent of these sightings can be explained,

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but ten percent cannot. Officially and
unofficially, the US military has been

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investigating UFOs since nineteen forty seven.
Their top secret goal is to find out

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what's behind these unexplained sightings. The
Pentagon classifies them as unusual airborne anomalies,

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but a better term is X files. Join us now as Mac one one

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and Commander Cobra explore these unsolved cases
UFO incidents that baffle even the US military.

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This is macmloney's Military X Files and
now here's macmloney. Well, good

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evening, everyone, and welcome to
macmloney's military style show here on the Distant

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Thunder Radio Network. This is macmloney
one. What the show we have for

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you tonight. But first let me
introduce the members of the who say,

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as the kids say on the streets
of Paris, girls, get ready,

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sitch yourselves down, stop fanning yourselves
immediately, get your mista, get your

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round windecks, get your squeege Inulu
because very famous one one is here.

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Hey, girls, say Mac,
thank you for having me on the show

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again tonight. By the way,
what's the wind explore? They bought a

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little time slot on the show.
So okay, alternate to clean the glasses

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or something clean, clean the monitor, Yeah, alternate uses about to be

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here, glad to be anywhere as
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yes, come everybody to tonight's show. It's gonna be great. He froze

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up a little bit there with emotion. What's going on over there? In

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England? Finished a bank holiday,
you know as the oral day over in

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Europe, play holiday holiday. So
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I mean usual to bank holiday commemorate
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Mother's Day something or whatever. Yes, And everybody looked at me like it's

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just a bank holidays. We have
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It's it's just a dumb way for
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all. So we'll dig this.
We got some holidays coming up here in

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America. First one, seventeenth of
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free ice fourth of July Independence Day, We kicked your ass, kicked yours

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or Independence r I've got my American
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up shortly to prove it as my
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Okay, let's see. Let's see
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the street. Yeah, hopefully they're
not listening to the shop. JJ.

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When you're walking down the street,
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No, I don't. I don't
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But I'll have to do is open
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you're American. You probably shouldn't want
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no matter what country you're in.
But let's move on. No Coco

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mill skills and Gigi guils I'd save
in the country if not the world.

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However, on Natural correspondent switch place, he Wood is with us down there

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in let's say, Frida Egg West
Virginia, switching what West Virginia? You

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know, Friday, Friday Friday.
I'm googling that one. Yeah, I'm

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running. I'm doing very well,
beyond wonderful. All right? That tonight

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is you on night? Right?
You realize that absolutely a lot of it

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is about John Hero Fellow Cullians are
gonna be on Killians? Really? Is

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that where we are with this?
All right? Why don't we introduce our

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security chief, Willie Club Willie Hey
mac Agang. Great to be here tonight

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Club, to feel it in the
air with the guests where I got coming.

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I'm pretty excited about it and pretty
happy to see that switch. He's

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dressed up forward too. He got
dressed, Yes he did. He's got

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that hip. He scented perfectly right, well, he had a pure it's

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his night. I spent a lot
of time centering that. And it's very

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secure with double sided duct tape on
a clean shirt. Good. Yes,

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yes, the first I thought his
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looks like a tuxedo, but not, No, I don't think so.

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He's showing it to me, and
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from? An all night feature?
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don't wear that out, do you? Uh? Occasionally should the chicken had

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to be kind of dressed you down
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he had. I thought he had
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goes commando was just the rain coat. Well, just you know, in

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case, you know understorm the right
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there, but I ain't going anywhere
near it. Uncle Ale the Kiddy's Palace

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here in the studio with us at
Ronaldo ufa mechan Oh mack, hello everyone.

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What are you drinking then? Tonight
I'm drinking against it from arrogainst Right

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Island. Yeah, okay, yeah, I used to steal that from my

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flava, you know, four or
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the slogan back in the day when
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hey, hey, Niba half again
high You making fun of me? No,

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I'm making fun of her that commercial
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good cartoon during the red sock.
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days. Right, Well, listen, it's time to calm down because our

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favorite good witches here up there in
sideways. And yeah, Raven is with

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us. Raven, how are you
hello, my friends. I'm doing great,

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thanks for having me. Okay,
slightly different look tonight, but I

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should tell everyone it's definitely a bun
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it's a half up, half down
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not like a short notice I know
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okay, all right, Yeah,
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you look more attractive. What do
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a half up, half down night
myself. It's really good. Club.

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trying to hang on, hang on, listen. He got some color in

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his face on Sunday, Yeah he
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from Sydnauto Max dec And all those
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he's cap com and even bees they
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I have carpenter bees. They're so
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laundry out on the line, they
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my hand out to see if one
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to I was trying to kill it. So yeah, in between all that

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and a lot of drinking and I
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We just you know, it was
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It's really nice. Yeah it was
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ninety anyway. So let's go to
Oh, Ravens, So who's on tonight?

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Who's on the show tonight? Yes, so we do have Barbara and

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MORGANA. I mean saying that great
switch morgana MORGANA I had. I had

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quite a learning curve learning how to
pronounce morgana. Okay. And they are

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the hosts of six Degrees of John
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Oh wow, oh cool, yep
podcast In case anyone is wondering, jog

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John Keel is. He's one of
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a whole lot of them, but
one of the first paranormal books I read,

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probably the first one I read was
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Prophecies in uh, you know,
and maybe like a yeah, i'd sale

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or something and use bookstore and read
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this is good because this is this
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he's talking about all these weird things
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So and then he's in Switch.
It turns out that he switches hero.

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I mean, how many books did
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I don't know, uh six or
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of collections of his uh articles,
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and things like sag A True Arcacy, UFO Repair and various men's magazines.

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girly magazines. They were They were
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and having adventures and you know,
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booze and kicked too. Yeaheah.
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were plentiful. I mean that was
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you could make a good living selling
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magazines. Yeah, oh yeah,
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back then, they might pay you
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bad back in the fifties. That
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But anyway, so he's your hero
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So, as it turns out,
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top ten list tonight. Thanks.
So last week's controversy, Hey, what

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a what a great night last week? Yeah? Yeah, we have a

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top twenty. How about that?
Now we have a true and false about

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John Keela Switchy. Okay? Is
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Hey, that's that's what you sent
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First? Oh, I'm reading the
email. I'm sorry. Uh yeah,

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John keel trivia true or false?
Okay? And what's the what's the

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cash prize from? There's five thousand
dollars as always, you can return next

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week for the show. There you
go, what's either raw? I'm having

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a pedicure next next week the same
time. Okay, So he has an

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excuse if he loses. Okay,
So why don't we just do it right

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now? So this is ten twelve
false questions about John keele f Switchy Please

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right right, start the music?
Um, okay, so we're actual.

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Were we going to start by asking
club a trivia question club, can you

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name Switchies three cats, minim and
Mike. Wow, we got it.

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Amazing, Wow, you're really close
switch twitter is what is it? Just

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named the three cats for us?
Please Keel, Rosie and Willis. Keel,

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Rosie and Willis. Okay, all
right, so now all right,

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here we go ten to a false
question about John Keel for Switchy, Please

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rave an number ten number ten true
or false. Keel once published an article

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titled are you a repressed sex Fiend? John Keel once yes and no to

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a false once published an article called
I US sex Fiend. Yes. Back

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in the early days when he hit
New York and Greenwich Village, he would

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he would have these prebrocative titles just
to sell articles and get attention. Yeah,

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this is long before he got into
his uh you know, intense UFO

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research and everything. Very good question. How you got interested in him,

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Stretch? Well, you know I
was curious, as is. I would

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say, repressed sex thing I've always
tried to do with my toxic masculinity.

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Really, yes, okay. You
know what Coco always says that John Keel

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basically invented clickbait. Well he uh, you know, it was perfect for

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the tabloids. He could, he
could write for anything. Yeah, yeah,

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funny, that's funny. I was
gonna say what Coco usually says is,

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once you dig in a hole,
stop Yeah right, okay, So

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anyway, here we go. Number
nine ready, number nine? True or

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false? Keel hated cats so much
he invented cat traps, which were essentially

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very large mouse traps and just as
effective. I'm gonna say a false.

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That would be my answer too.
I actually don't have any of the answers,

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Max, I do that I read
he might have what I don't don't

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remember reading any reference that's actually false? That's false? Please? That was

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that's man. I'm getting closer to
that cash bonus. Now, all right,

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Remember Keel wrote scripts for the TV
show The Monkeys. Keel wrote scripts

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for the TV show The Monkeys.
Ah, he wrote scripts for a lot

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of TV shows. I'm gonna say
false on that. I don't think he

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wrote for the Monkeys. Actually he
did. He wrote for The Monkeys and

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Get Spot. Yeah, he wrote
for a Lost in Space. He wrote

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both flips for Murder Griffin. But
I never never knew that he wrote the

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scripts for the Monkeys. Yeah,
it'd be funny to see what show he

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did? You know, well,
you know they did. The Monkeys did

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a spoof on remember the Invaders TV
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they burn up in the atmosphere and
they've got like they had. You could

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tell him because sometimes they had like
a stiff pinky gets copied by the aliens

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and you can tell he's an alien
because his feet around backwards. Oh good,

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okay, that's always a sure sign. I was gonna say, I

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hope he wasn't gonna say, yeah, a stiff pinky and that's all they

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know. But all right, we
had number seven, please please True false.

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Keel was the first person. Wait
why does night email do this?

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Hang on a second? Okay?
True false. Keel was the first person

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to coin the term men in black. Kiel was the first person to coin

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the term men in black. H
he probably Well, it may have actually

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been Albert bender Now there's a dispute
there. There's a guy named Thomas Malone

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that that's spoofed. Keel bought his
story for a short while, and he

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actually may have been the one that
did. I think there's some evidence to

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suggests that Albert Bendert did. But
this is one of those things that would

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be in dispute, so you know, people will have different answers on that.

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Well, his baio says that he
didn't in fact claim the tourn met

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in black. So who knows next? Please right number six? True or

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false. Keel was known to his
close friends as Dick Grangler due to all

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the poon tang he got over the
years. Never heard that's string, that's

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that true. I never heard that
story. Just crazy enough to be true.

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I'll say true, it's it's false. But but instead of originally I

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had instead of Dick Wranglo, which
is my favorite Poe star name, originally

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had in the uncle Milty. But
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you used uncle Milty in there would
anyone who got that joke? Yeah,

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well, I supposed to be a
yeah, that's what I'm saying. Alas

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displaying a graphically here in the studio
Luckily Radio show a nice Please right number

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five YEP number five? True or
false. Kiel wrote a book called Disneyland

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of the Gods. Kill wrote a
book called Disneyland of the Gods True,

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a book with it had several chapters. It's very similar to the Beyond the

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known articles he did for fake magazine
where we have a particular subject or write

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about some kind of paranormal thing.
Always interesting. And he had a collection

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very similar. He had had a
fake collection as well. But he did

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write a book called Disneyland of the
Gods. Right, yeah, interesting title.

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Nice Please n This is ten to
a false questions about John Kiel Foughts,

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which we are at number four h
true or false. Kiel was a

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lifelong resident of Truth or Consequences,
New Mexico. Kill lived in Truth the

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Consequences, New Mexico for most of
his life. True a false false false?

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Here where he lived? Do you
know where he lived? Ritchie,

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New York. Yeah, he lived
on the Upper West Side of New York.

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So he must have been either rich
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benefit of rent control. Oh that
could be too Okay, that makes sense.

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Do you guys know how Truth or
Consequences got its name from? Was

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it from the TV show? It
was a radio show. I believe they

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ran a contest and that was how
the town got named. Yeah, and

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a lot of bad things have happened
there, is it? Yeah? Really?

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Yeah? You know, when you
when you address a letter there,

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you can just put TRC New Mexico. You don't have to spell it all

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out. This is a so TRC. Yeah, yeah, you could do

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a deep dive on that. That
would be fun. What have they been,

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like murders and paranormal stuff going on
at that place? That'd be excellent

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and excellent. Lots of murders.
Yeah, lots of murders for sure.

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I'm not paranormal, but I know
a lot of um like paranorm I'm on

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your folks. Sightings occur in that
type of an area. That would be

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that would be worth a deep dive. In my opinion. It's just funny.

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You see it on a map and
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tied to the show slumpthing, you
know, man, it turns out it

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was. Okay, Next, this
is the top. This is ten questions.

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Two false questions to switchy about John
Keel okay, Number three true or

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false Keels bones are okay true.
Real Keels bones are buried in your backyard.

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John Keel's bones are buried in your
backyard. Switching yes and no,

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Wow, no it's Jimmy Hoffa.
Oh that's where nobody. Yeah, yeah,

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well there was about a five second
hesitation there and he took a breath,

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and he much of a backyard.
Okay, all right, well it

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wasn't a big guy. Okay,
let's see. He's a ten true or

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false questions. It's about John Keile
for Switchy, please right number two two

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or false? Keel was first cousins
with Hollywood actor and star of the TV

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series Dallas, Howard Keill. Howard
Keel was on Dallas for a while,

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and he was first cousins with John
Keel. That's false, That is false,

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Switchy. So you got one,
okay, next one really got more

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than one? All right? And
finally, true or false, your cat

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named Keel appears in your dreams every
night telling you to quote unquote lose those

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other two cats or else. Well, not quite. He does say belief

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is the enemy, okay, and
then he says, I can see the

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bottom of my food dish. I'm
starving. We'll put the tdarian right there.

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Okay, you Switchy. How many
of that? You didn't quite make

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the five thousand dollars? I don't
think Well, I'll take the thirty five

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bucks. That's okay. Oh really, okay, club club, can you

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take care of that place as a
secret. Yeah, I'll send you a

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check science this time? Wow,
he had that load? Adob didn't he?

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Okay, all right, why don't
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Alrighty, what a show we have you

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tonight. Girls. You should be
sitting down missing and just you know,

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looped up. I guess you could
say, I don't know what else.

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I don't really go anymore. Ray
fans one one is here, Yeah,

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baby, loop it up? Hello
man, Hello, everybody, Welcome to

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the show. Hopefully it won't be
X rated. It's just gonna be fun

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and the whole family. Are they
two different things? Okay? Anyway,

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No Coco tonight, he's up by
Jeffrey Lube. Actually got a hey him,

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let it today, Jiffy Loo.
Not a bad idea. Think about

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that for a second. Thank you
club. Okay, why you're the one?

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Um? Someone a fan was wondering
if Coca could fly in in his

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helicopter, pick her up and fly
her to the exit of UFO car good

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request. Yeah, yeah, I
said never say never. But I'm pretty

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sure that that literally a plane he
flies in. The thing looks like Star

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Wars. I don't think. I
don't think you can get more than two

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one person in that. Have you
ever seen that it's an experimental plane.

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Yeah, I don't know if it's
a one or two passions. I don't

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think it's a two passage. So
what's the nearest airport man, probably Peas

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Air Force Base to exit or peace. Yeah, you have to, yeah,

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anyway, but you know the legend
of Coco lives on. So anyway,

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switch very quickly, yes, because
we just had a animated conversation off

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the air about what so horror movies? Horror movies. But I just we

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have to ask Switchy first. Would
you have a breakfast? Oh? I

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had. It was more of a
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Yes, and I happened to know
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So I had meat loaf, mashed
potatoes and gravy with corn and they also

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throw in a biscuit. But the
biscuit was a little too much, so

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I just brought her home. Yeah, yeah, and I had water with

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it. Water. Yeah, what
are you not drinking coffee anymore? No?

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I drink go offing another stuff once
in a while. Water seemed right

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today, they really Yeah, I
love that whole mateloaf thing. Man.

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My mother was a great cook,
ary o. Well she writes us every

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month or so. She knows how
to make meat loaf and mashed potatoes and

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gravy. I could live on that
forever. In catch of course. Yeah,

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really good. So while we were
off there, we were having a

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spirited discussion about Winnie the Pooh.
Um. I had to admit that I

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didn't know anything about Whinnie the Pooh. The name is I always kind of

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put me off a little bit of
say, okay, so, but Raven

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has done a semi deep dive into
so what is everyone in the in the

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in the book is dysfunctional? Is
that what we're saying? So I definitely

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have not done a deep dive on
this. Um. But this is a

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theory that I very much agree with
that all of the characters from Winnie the

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Pooh represent a different mental illness.
UM. So for example, uh,

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Winnie the Pooh, the bear would
represent an eating disorder. Um. The

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little Pig is anxiety disorder. Steger
is adhd um Christopher Robbins, for example,

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is they they put him as schizophrenic
because I believe the uh, the

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backbone of this is that he is
imagining all of these little creatures. Um.

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But it's it's really interesting. Um. They say that the owl is

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narcissistic personality disorder, the rabbit is
obsessive compulsive disorder. And I think for

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obvious reasons or is major major depressive
disorder. And it makes sense. Wow,

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do what about baby route for someone
can get in baby room? She

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was they they have their own issue. Yeah, what about you didn't mention

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tigga yea the tiger adhd. I
just have to ask a question yet,

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one one, do you have any
idea what they're talking about? I have

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no idea? Yeah, yeah,
So what happens a guy those disorders Winned

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the Pooh with his h Yeah,
graphic a graphic on Winned the Pooh and

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mental illness. There's a whole like
you can put on a tinfoil hat and

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and go down rabbit hole. And
I, uh, this is years this

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is probably almost ten years ago.
Now. I got into a fight with

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somebody about this on Facebook a long
time ago. I don't even have a

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Facebook anymore, but I got to
do a fight with somebody because this woman

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was like, they're ruining cartoons,
and I was like, this would make

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it so that everyone feels included.
What are you talking about it? I'm

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like, shut up, I shut
it right down. It think it was

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done ridiculous. Was it done on
purpose? Was it written that way?

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Or is it just the way everyone's
kind of looking into things. It's the

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way that people are looking into it. But it makes total sense when you

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really look at it. Yeah,
you know it's I don't know if it

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was done intentionally. I haven't really, I have not done a deep though.

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What's the name of the guy who
wrote it? Melnieie a a Milnie

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Ye? Yes, I feel like
I maybe mispronounced the last name. I'm

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not no, I just never yeh. See. From what I understand,

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Christopher Robin was just a young boy
who didn't have a lot of friends.

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He had all the stuffed animals,
yes, and he gave them personalities.

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He made them come alive to him. So Whinnie the Pool was just teddy

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bear he had, and he had
all the other guys and he behind his

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house there was a one hundred acre
would. It was a large ordered area

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he hung out and played with with
all his pals. I don't know if

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I'm buying this, Raven. I
think you need to get on Facebook so

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we can argue about it. I
definitely need to make a new Facebook account

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and just start arguing with everyone I
can find about number two. They did

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great things, so discovered the North
Pole. They were tracked by a horrible

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helflo and they tracked. Were you
talking about? I think I think you're

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on Doctor Seuss, Doctor No,
no, no, no, Whinnie the

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Pooh went to the North Pole?
I don't remember. They went on an

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expedition to discover the North Pole and
the three acre would and they literally find

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this pole and declare it the North
Pole. Wow, this is fascinating,

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convenient. Whatever they were, well, they didn't have to you know,

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hey, a lot of air fare
or or who you justification to the North

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Pole? Whom on? Did you
just send me a line to a Polen

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movie about the Hope? Not?
Okay, it's it's kind of a cool

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winn of the Pooh. Uh what
does it mean graphic really that Raven's talking

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about? Yeah, okay, yeah, it's interesting, like uh, maybe

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I'll do a deep dive on it
and go weird. I mean, I

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am going to say one more thing
before we move off of off of me.

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Yes, if we ever move off
of Winnie the Pooh, we have

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to move off of Winnie the Pooh. Plea talked enough about it, Um,

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I need to point out the beer
that I'm drinking. I found at

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a brewery that I went to on
Saturday. We were in Wilkes Barre,

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Pennsylvania, and we were there because
we went to Centralia, Pennsylvania. I

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don't know if anyone knows what Centralia
is. Sure a lot of our listeners

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might. If you're if you're a
fan of horror movies, you definitely know

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what this is that is based That's
the town that Silent Hill was based off

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of horror movie because there is an
underground mine fire that started in nineteen sixty

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four, I think, and it's
still burning today and its own is abandoned

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and it's a ghost town. It
was so cool. It was very creepy.

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No one's there. No one walked
on what was left of like the

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Graffiti Highway, which is literally it
was it used to be a highway.

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It was they demolished it in twenty
because this is a timeless show, so

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I won't say the year they demolished
it. And so we walked on what

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was left of it, and we
we stole some highway and we took some

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coal, um And it was really
interesting though, it was very surreal just

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seeing streets used to be real streets
that were just completely overgrown and all you

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would just see a random stop sign
with like a little bit of pavement and

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then it was just completely overgrown.
Really interesting, still houses here safely and

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view all the stuff. Um,
the locals really don't like people like me

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coming into you know, ruin their
day, I guess because there are there

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are I believe ten ten or twelve
residents that still live there that refused to

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leave. Is there smoke in the
air? Is can you see any sign

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of the mind fire? We didn't
see any, but it was a very

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clear day, so I'm assuming that's
why I can imagine at night you probably

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would see did they tear the houses
down? Or are there houses still there?

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If you look up pictures of what
the town used to look like,

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it looked like Main Street, USA, and now it's like you're driving through

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and It's like you would just see
a random house, like in a field.

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There used to be hundreds of houses
surrounding it and there's like one left.

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What a place to film a movie? What a what a location a

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film? A movie would be something
of the name of the town is what

404
00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:22,839
Centralia? Centralia yet c E N
T R L A. I. Yeah,

405
00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:24,559
I don't know, I can't spell. But if you've seen Silent Hill,

406
00:32:24,799 --> 00:32:28,599
you know exactly what I'm talking about. If we haven't seen Silent Hill,

407
00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:30,160
you should watch it. It is
such a good movie, and it's

408
00:32:30,279 --> 00:32:35,960
very loosely based on it. But
the interesting thing is that there's literally a

409
00:32:36,039 --> 00:32:42,240
fire just going yeah, at all
times underground. That's crazier is that driving

410
00:32:42,319 --> 00:32:46,880
in there. There are other communities
like two miles away from this town that

411
00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:51,279
were just like whatever, yea whatever
that was me. I'd be gone,

412
00:32:51,599 --> 00:32:54,799
yeah, yeah, I was flourishing
communities like nothing's going on. It's gotta

413
00:32:54,799 --> 00:32:59,799
be sulfur in the air, gotta
be yeah. So anyway, Wow,

414
00:32:59,880 --> 00:33:04,279
that's interesting. Yours help. Um, So there's one other thing we were

415
00:33:04,319 --> 00:33:06,799
gonna talk. Oh, first of
all, Raven, please could you tell

416
00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:12,839
the audience the phrase the page the
phrase that pays. The phrase it pays

417
00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:15,519
is Friday, I'm in love.
Friday, I'm in love, Annie,

418
00:33:15,559 --> 00:33:20,119
I'm please write to Macloney's Military X
knowledge. Now what am I talking about?

419
00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:23,480
Wing me in? What is it
wing mean at macaloney dot com?

420
00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:30,119
Is that it I should probably know
that. Let's start again. Let's start

421
00:33:30,559 --> 00:33:38,039
check with your ghost. Um did
you just give out your personal cut?

422
00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:42,279
All right? Here are you?
Um? So? Anyway, that's the

423
00:33:42,359 --> 00:33:47,079
phrase that pays, and please go
to macloney dot com hit the contact button.

424
00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:52,759
Say I heard Royvens say. The
phrase that pays is Friday I'm in

425
00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:59,079
love a UM line from a song
about the Quo. And the first four

426
00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:04,119
or five people who write to us
from this show and also from Raven's Scary

427
00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:09,480
movie Hour, we'll get a free
copy of macloney's new book War of Dragons

428
00:34:09,519 --> 00:34:14,280
on sealed everywhere autograph copy. So
just go to macloney dot com hit the

429
00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:20,079
contact button. The phrase to pays
is please one more time Raven alrighty,

430
00:34:20,159 --> 00:34:23,039
I'm in love, Um, Friday, I'm in love And first four or

431
00:34:23,119 --> 00:34:28,840
five people will say five people who
write to us with phrase to pays Friday

432
00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:35,280
Mloon get a free copy of of
Dragons by macmaloney on Seal Everywhere. Okay,

433
00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:38,639
so why don't we do this?
What's next? Switchy? Do you

434
00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:42,519
have anything? Just I do?
Okay, why don't we do something?

435
00:34:42,559 --> 00:34:45,079
Would you? No? Hang on, I'm gonna cut that out today.

436
00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:50,360
All right, I'm string him up. Oh man, his his lawyer Colling.

437
00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:52,280
I just wrote this. Or do
I get a copy? Uh?

438
00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:55,440
Yeah, oh yes, you do. Well, we're only four copies left.

439
00:34:55,480 --> 00:35:00,320
Okay, all right, let's let's
eka press. Okay, switching,

440
00:35:01,159 --> 00:35:12,960
why don't we put in your buppet
music right here? And now it's time

441
00:35:13,039 --> 00:35:17,239
for another story from the Lost Animals
of the Paranormal. It's time for Steve

442
00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:27,159
Ward's Report from the Fringe, and
please elucidate us. The source of this

443
00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:31,039
comes from the book Mimics by Tim
Schwartz the others amongst us. All right,

444
00:35:32,199 --> 00:35:36,639
and also now there's a lot of
contributors to this book. Are the

445
00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:40,840
friend of the show. Paul Dale
Roberts contributed a good friend of the show.

446
00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:47,000
Now this is a little bit the
shades of Disappearing people Missing four one

447
00:35:47,119 --> 00:35:52,079
one Raven a couple of weeks ago
did a classic missing person case and we

448
00:35:52,199 --> 00:35:57,840
talked a lot about David Politis and
his stuff this particular. I'm going to

449
00:35:57,880 --> 00:36:01,719
give two examples here, and they
kind of overlap with the fairy lore or

450
00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:08,039
the elementals, and even David Politis
has recognized some of the parallels between other

451
00:36:08,159 --> 00:36:13,679
aspects of the paranormal, like folklore
and some of the missing form. On

452
00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:21,480
one material, this comes from Dublin
Line News Roslyn Cullen, and she writes

453
00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:27,440
about a woman unnamed, a woman
from from Meath County, and she's out

454
00:36:27,519 --> 00:36:30,400
walking in the wood. She actually
has a step counter on there. Got

455
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:35,800
some kind of a challenge going at
work. So she's going through the woods

456
00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:39,719
and she happens to pass through these
two trees that are right next to each

457
00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:45,840
other, and she touches them both
as she passes through. One is strangely

458
00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:49,599
warm and the other is cold and
wet, And once she steps through,

459
00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:53,440
she starts to become a little bit
disoriented. There are three paths there.

460
00:36:53,519 --> 00:37:00,679
She takes one and things aren't really
looking normal. She takes one and it

461
00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:06,239
comes up to a bunch of brush
where she she can't even pass. And

462
00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:09,519
she takes each of the other pathways, and no matter what she does,

463
00:37:09,599 --> 00:37:13,880
she can't find her way back.
She can't find those two trees again,

464
00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:21,320
so she can't really explain what's going
on now really becomes beyond her ability to

465
00:37:21,519 --> 00:37:27,239
explain. Now, she h after
she was unable to find her way,

466
00:37:27,639 --> 00:37:30,679
she had turned where she had turned
left at first time, to no avail.

467
00:37:31,159 --> 00:37:37,599
Now then she heard this low voice, very low voice, saying over

468
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:43,159
here, over here. Now there
had been other people around before she got

469
00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:47,519
in this got disoriented. But when
when she heard that, she just assumed

470
00:37:47,559 --> 00:37:53,239
it was somebody calling somebody else.
But then she heard a laugh at the

471
00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:59,880
end of this voice, and involuntarily
the hair on her necks good him.

472
00:38:00,639 --> 00:38:05,559
And she had she had grown up
with learning about fairy lore and that sort

473
00:38:05,599 --> 00:38:07,519
of thing, so that's she kind
of thought there was some kind of a

474
00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:13,960
fairy enchantment going on. And she
had heard that if you put your clothes

475
00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:16,960
on inside out, it could help
you break the spell. So she does

476
00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:21,039
it. She takes her shirt off, turns it inside out. She said,

477
00:38:21,639 --> 00:38:24,320
she said, I felt like I
was being mental, but she did

478
00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:30,199
it anyway. Now almost immediately spell
or the enchantment broke, and she found

479
00:38:30,199 --> 00:38:35,159
the two trees. She rushes through
them, believing that things are going to

480
00:38:35,199 --> 00:38:37,920
be turned to normal, and actually
they did, and you know everything,

481
00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:43,519
everything comes back to normal. She
hears other voices and she's doesn't hear this

482
00:38:43,639 --> 00:38:47,400
little tiny voice again, which in
that laughs just scared the hell out of

483
00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:52,719
her. Some said that she may
have stepped on what they called a stray

484
00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:55,679
sod. Now that's a clump of
grass that has been enchanted by the fairies

485
00:38:57,000 --> 00:39:01,519
contentionally causes one to be disoriented if
you step on it. And then that

486
00:39:01,639 --> 00:39:06,320
was that event was over. Now
here's another one. Once you get a

487
00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:09,639
joke, a joke is in there
some way, but not today. Sorry,

488
00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:15,400
Yes, do I get more money
for jokes? Try try us?

489
00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:20,800
Okay? Now this comes from a
book called the Middle Kingdom and two things

490
00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:23,360
about this. It's Jerre mc McManus
that wrote this, and it was in

491
00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:27,719
the nineteen fifties. It's very much
like Evans Wentz. I don't know if

492
00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:30,719
you guys remember Evans Wentz that Jacques
Valet talked about at some length. He

493
00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:37,840
in nineteen eleven he wrote the book
called the Fairy Faith of the Celtic Countries,

494
00:39:37,519 --> 00:39:44,320
and he went around talking to people
about their one or one encounters with

495
00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:49,719
the fairies with elementals, these weren't
merely stories handed down from generation after generation.

496
00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:52,119
And now mcderbot did the same thing. He said, these are not

497
00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:55,880
fairy tales that have been told and
retold. This is like us going and

498
00:39:55,960 --> 00:40:01,679
talking to UFO witnesses in Bigfoot Witnesses. And it's interesting because when I first

499
00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:06,960
read the source of this particular story, which takes place in nineteen thirty five,

500
00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:10,519
I first read it in an issue
of The Flying Saucery View, and

501
00:40:10,599 --> 00:40:15,320
I kept tracing the source until I
find it was from the Middle Kingdom.

502
00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:20,480
That was good because that's the original
source and you get more information. And

503
00:40:20,559 --> 00:40:25,239
it turns out his aunt, who
lived in Mayo, Ireland, required companion

504
00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:30,239
help. She had a housekeeper,
but they also hired this local girl of

505
00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:35,360
nineteen, very capable, and she
was just somebody that came to help her

506
00:40:35,559 --> 00:40:39,400
it alone. And one Saturday,
after living there for several weeks, she

507
00:40:39,559 --> 00:40:43,519
had the afternoon off, so she
decided to spend it with the soul and

508
00:40:43,639 --> 00:40:46,280
family, that's the housekeeper's family.
They were going to have her over at

509
00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:52,360
dinner at seven pm. A beautiful
day, so she's going over there and

510
00:40:52,599 --> 00:40:58,719
she decides to climb the nearby ferry
fort called Lissard. Now, she had

511
00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:00,079
plenty of time and she didn't have
to be there to like I said,

512
00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:07,760
seven pm. And but when seven
pm rolls around, she had not shown

513
00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:10,760
up. The other cottages in the
area were checked. No one had seen

514
00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:15,000
her, so the alarm went up. A large group of men went out

515
00:41:15,039 --> 00:41:17,920
with lanterns because it was starting to
get dark. The last party came back

516
00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:22,920
about midnight empty handed. A few
minutes after the last group came back,

517
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:25,719
the young girl walked through the door, sank into a chair, and burst

518
00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:30,960
into tears. Fortunately there was a
kitchen fire and they said. He says,

519
00:41:31,199 --> 00:41:36,280
strong key brought her backup bench.
I've had something. So then she

520
00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:39,639
tells her story. She had climbed
the Fairy Mound again beautiful day and she

521
00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:45,440
could see a lot of the surrounding
countryside. There's a group of trees at

522
00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:51,440
the top, and again just just
like a gorgeous summer day. But then

523
00:41:51,599 --> 00:41:53,440
there was a bit of chill in
the air, so she decided to descend

524
00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:58,719
the mound and finish her trek over
to the Solons. As she walked down

525
00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:01,880
toward a gap in the outer bank, she was just at the opening when

526
00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:06,519
she felt a sort of a jerk
from kind of inside. It wasn't She

527
00:42:06,599 --> 00:42:09,880
wasn't feeling pressure or being pushed from
outside. It was something inside. And

528
00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:14,360
then all of a sudden, she
found she was walking right back up the

529
00:42:14,519 --> 00:42:19,440
hill as she had just walked down. She tried several times to get down

530
00:42:19,519 --> 00:42:22,920
through this gap, and she was
like teleportation. It was like she was

531
00:42:23,039 --> 00:42:29,199
immediately turned around and she was walking
up the hill. And then she tried

532
00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:34,679
to sidestep and climb over off to
the side, but when she did,

533
00:42:35,119 --> 00:42:37,960
she seemed to come to an invisible
wall. No matter how she tried to

534
00:42:38,079 --> 00:42:43,639
pass, she could not get through. And then she felt an evil presence

535
00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:45,960
that was not there before. It
seemed to be coming from a specific part

536
00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:52,039
of the ferry fort up high.
And then of course darkness fell. It's

537
00:42:52,039 --> 00:42:55,960
a moonless night. She can't get
through. But then her hopes rose because

538
00:42:57,000 --> 00:43:00,480
she saw a lantern bobbing in the
dark of the search parties came near her

539
00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:05,440
and she could hear them calling for
her. She yelled back, but they

540
00:43:05,519 --> 00:43:08,840
were unable to hear her no matter
how loud she yelled. Another group pain

541
00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:13,440
came by the same thing. She
couldn't get through the barrier. They couldn't

542
00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:17,000
hear her. Now, she kept
watching these lanterns kind of disappear into the

543
00:43:17,079 --> 00:43:24,119
woods, and all of a sudden, all of a sudden, the barrier,

544
00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:29,519
the enchantment or whatever it was,
disappeared. And so she moved very

545
00:43:29,559 --> 00:43:34,280
carefully because it's pitch dark, and
she kept her eyes in the distant lanterns

546
00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:38,239
to find her way home, and
finally, obviously she did. They said

547
00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:44,280
that she told her story with the
sincerity. She was clearly exhausted. They

548
00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:46,400
had checked to see if she had
spent any time at the other cottages,

549
00:43:47,079 --> 00:43:52,920
and you know, it just has
that creepy four one one vibe. You

550
00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:55,199
know, she hears the voices in
the night, they're out there, she's

551
00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:59,760
yelling, they can't hear her,
and she can't make her presence known.

552
00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:05,639
So these are two instances that again
based on fairiyal or you can decide whether

553
00:44:05,719 --> 00:44:08,800
or not they're true or not.
But very very interesting to find parallels like

554
00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:12,679
this. What's the explanation though,
is there? What? Just that this

555
00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:15,320
hill is kind of haunted? Whatever
about the fairies and if you go up

556
00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:19,039
there, you do show at your
own wrist that type of thing. Well,

557
00:44:19,519 --> 00:44:22,280
they're some of them are very mischievous. Some of them are supposed to

558
00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:25,840
be very helpful, you know.
It was perhaps again, if this is

559
00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:30,159
a true story, they are they
were just messing with her for a while

560
00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:34,039
and then eventually let her go.
But perhaps some people don't get let go

561
00:44:34,519 --> 00:44:39,119
and we never see them again exactly. Some of them are straight up hostile,

562
00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:46,039
yes. Others produce healing, you
know, yeah, riches and so

563
00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:54,320
forth. They're definitely not like the
fairies that you picture in like insert Disney

564
00:44:54,400 --> 00:44:57,960
movie. Right, yeah, Okay, what's the difference. Tell us the

565
00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:01,280
difference in some art, you know, they're like fairies from lore. It's

566
00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:07,639
not it's not f a i r
y. It's f a r r I

567
00:45:07,159 --> 00:45:15,400
right r E something like that.
Yeah, there's a difference between the two.

568
00:45:15,719 --> 00:45:23,039
And the fai r y cut c
ones are just ut it doesn't have

569
00:45:23,159 --> 00:45:28,440
any backing of lore, and then
the other ones are actually from I mean

570
00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:32,039
a lot of it is from I
did this back in Christmas. Um I

571
00:45:32,199 --> 00:45:37,840
talked about like the Yule Lads,
those would fall under a fairy lore and

572
00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:40,519
then there's like little tricks that you
have to do to like get rid of

573
00:45:40,639 --> 00:45:45,960
them, basically, but that's a
that's essentially what you're talking about. And

574
00:45:45,079 --> 00:45:50,039
I mean like there's there's crazy things
that you have to do. Like sometimes

575
00:45:50,079 --> 00:45:53,440
it's like leave your front door and
your back door open so that they don't

576
00:45:53,559 --> 00:45:57,800
notice your house while they're flying through
the woods, and they'll fly right through

577
00:45:57,800 --> 00:46:00,639
your house. Sounds good. Some
of them is like you have to leave

578
00:46:00,679 --> 00:46:05,719
a colander on your stairs because some
of them can't count pass like three,

579
00:46:06,159 --> 00:46:09,079
so they'll just keep counting like they
count the holes obsessively, so they'll count

580
00:46:09,119 --> 00:46:13,000
to two and then they just start
over again because they can't count. So

581
00:46:13,119 --> 00:46:15,440
what who are they supposed to be? Are they supposed to be? I

582
00:46:15,519 --> 00:46:17,400
mean, have they miniature people or
do they have the you know, the

583
00:46:17,679 --> 00:46:22,639
funny some giant, some are I
mean some are the fury statueist. They

584
00:46:22,679 --> 00:46:25,880
can also, according to some faery
lord, they can change their size and

585
00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:30,079
their shape and interesting. Arthur Conan
Doyle wrote a book called the World of

586
00:46:30,159 --> 00:46:36,840
the Fairies, and he said the
Sherlock Holmes grown and he said the appearance

587
00:46:36,920 --> 00:46:43,079
of the fairies is partly due to
our perception of them sounding like John Keel

588
00:46:43,119 --> 00:46:46,280
one hundred years ago. But but
they have to come on the fairies too.

589
00:46:46,639 --> 00:46:54,199
The home, say, but but
what's what's the what's the origin story?

590
00:46:54,199 --> 00:46:57,079
I mean, are they supposed to
be from Middle or Earth? Are

591
00:46:57,119 --> 00:47:01,960
they from another dimension? Does anyone
you know? No, I think they've

592
00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:06,039
always just been part of the Earth. I don't know. Some of them

593
00:47:06,079 --> 00:47:08,519
are fallen angels, right, Raven, I'm pretty sure. And I also

594
00:47:08,599 --> 00:47:15,960
think it depends on what country it
originates from, because there's all like there's

595
00:47:15,039 --> 00:47:22,039
difference between uh, like Ireland for
example, and like, uh, what's

596
00:47:22,079 --> 00:47:25,039
the other one I'm thinking of?
I want to say Scottsdale, and that's

597
00:47:25,079 --> 00:47:30,800
not Scotland. They were all drunk
up okay, but yeah, there's I'm

598
00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:35,760
partly Scotchdale, you know, scott
Stale, Arizona is so much fairy,

599
00:47:35,800 --> 00:47:38,079
but it is unbelievable. I don't
know if you guys know that. I

600
00:47:38,199 --> 00:47:42,159
couldnot think of the word Scotland.
I am. I've always believed what kind

601
00:47:42,199 --> 00:47:45,360
of beer is that? Again,
Raven, Scottsdale? Know what kind of

602
00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:52,000
beer? By? What Scotland?
What kind of beer are you drinking?

603
00:47:52,039 --> 00:47:59,320
Oh? I'm drinking uh tangerine shandy
from the brewery. I got it Benny

604
00:47:59,599 --> 00:48:02,880
Benny Grew Company, and it was
so good and it's the beer is amazing.

605
00:48:04,199 --> 00:48:07,920
Um. Yeah, Like it just
depends on what they're where they come

606
00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:13,400
from, because there's going to be
different stories. It's because it's European though,

607
00:48:13,480 --> 00:48:15,159
right, it's mostly European. That's
when I think of, you know,

608
00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:21,880
well the countries all overhe some lore
about these little guys little tricks.

609
00:48:22,119 --> 00:48:24,880
Yeah, where is it com from? Even Hawaii they've got the little uh.

610
00:48:25,079 --> 00:48:29,280
I forget what they call them.
Um, I don't remember the invite.

611
00:48:29,360 --> 00:48:30,800
I thought it goes back to the
Greeks. Everything going back to the

612
00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:35,559
Greeks. Eventually they had the sprites, you know, and the uh,

613
00:48:36,119 --> 00:48:39,280
the the satyrs, the um and
that's sort of thing. But by the

614
00:48:39,320 --> 00:48:44,519
way, ravend I sometimes I inadvertently
where my clothes inside out. So I've

615
00:48:44,559 --> 00:48:47,320
never had any trouble. Well,
I do say, because it's like why

616
00:48:47,480 --> 00:48:52,159
risk it if you know that there
they aren't going to to take you.

617
00:48:53,199 --> 00:48:58,320
Just where your clothes at. I'm
wearing this tea shirt inside club is inside

618
00:49:00,199 --> 00:49:04,840
side out except when their dirty.
But there's there's all kinds of connections with

619
00:49:05,159 --> 00:49:09,679
modern day UFO experiences. Missing time
was prevailing in the in the fairy fairy

620
00:49:09,719 --> 00:49:16,199
folklore, y you know the uh
who was at Elias Owens who wrote Welsh

621
00:49:16,239 --> 00:49:21,039
folklore, talked about how wayfair is
along the road at night, but they

622
00:49:21,079 --> 00:49:24,679
saw mistforming. They got pretty nervous
because sometimes the fairies would grab them,

623
00:49:25,079 --> 00:49:30,320
chaking them up in the air and
placed them a distance from where they were

624
00:49:30,400 --> 00:49:32,840
going for a little mischief. Does
that sound like, you know, a

625
00:49:32,920 --> 00:49:39,079
little little abduction. Maybe they were
putting some little probing cookies or something like

626
00:49:39,199 --> 00:49:44,800
that. Who knows, But listen, they've done this all just prove in

627
00:49:44,840 --> 00:49:49,719
a way that this is all part
of one big thing and this is just

628
00:49:49,840 --> 00:49:52,599
someone else's interpretation of it, you
know. Oh my god, Wait,

629
00:49:53,880 --> 00:50:00,119
it's what's the company that makes those
keybler elf cookies? Nibisco? No,

630
00:50:00,559 --> 00:50:07,320
do we blok cookies? Yeah?
Yeah, el is the best. No,

631
00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:13,199
those are made by real elves.
Gray. It's all conspiracy. It's

632
00:50:13,239 --> 00:50:20,159
all of the conspiracy. Most people
take Nabisco getting into our breath. That

633
00:50:20,440 --> 00:50:24,320
was checking well, you know,
crackling pop. What kind of people are

634
00:50:24,360 --> 00:50:30,599
they? You know? All the
sorry, that's okay, all the stories

635
00:50:30,760 --> 00:50:34,679
about that. There was one about
a young boy that meets the fairies and

636
00:50:34,760 --> 00:50:37,159
they're playing throwing a ball back and
forth, and to him it looks like

637
00:50:37,320 --> 00:50:40,480
gold, and uh, you know, of course he thinks he's there for

638
00:50:40,519 --> 00:50:44,679
about an hour. He's gone all
day, he's all right, but he

639
00:50:44,760 --> 00:50:46,920
just at the time flies by.
But then he wants to take one of

640
00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:50,679
these with him home, so he
puts it in his pocket, but the

641
00:50:50,760 --> 00:50:54,239
elves catch him when he's stepping out
of the round the enchanted area. He

642
00:50:54,400 --> 00:50:58,320
can't take. You know, there's
millions of stories like that. Now,

643
00:50:58,400 --> 00:51:00,960
let's go to Betty and Barney Hill. Most people know the story Betty and

644
00:51:00,960 --> 00:51:06,800
Body Hill abducted in the early sixties
echolastic abduction experience. We assume it's et,

645
00:51:07,360 --> 00:51:09,159
you know, until we get into
some of the stuff that happened afterwards,

646
00:51:09,320 --> 00:51:13,280
which we don't have time to talk
about now. But there's an event

647
00:51:13,440 --> 00:51:15,960
aboard the craft, if that's what
it was, That is like the one

648
00:51:16,000 --> 00:51:20,280
of the old fairy tricks. Dust
it off and Betty Hill had seen one

649
00:51:20,280 --> 00:51:23,159
of these books that had photographs and
strange writing in it, and she thought,

650
00:51:23,280 --> 00:51:28,360
if nobody believes her story, she's
got this proof for herself. And

651
00:51:28,440 --> 00:51:30,400
the one she called a leaders said
she could take it with her, and

652
00:51:30,519 --> 00:51:35,039
she's thrilled. But and when they're
about to leave where they're done with her

653
00:51:35,119 --> 00:51:38,639
examination. They're about to cross the
threshold of the spaceship. The leader comes

654
00:51:38,639 --> 00:51:42,719
to her and says, the others
object, I'm sorry you can't take this

655
00:51:42,880 --> 00:51:46,360
with you. But like the old
old fairy story, you can't get the

656
00:51:46,400 --> 00:51:51,000
treasures out of fairyland, and you
can't get them across the threshold of a

657
00:51:51,039 --> 00:51:53,360
spaceship either. Yeah, does that
man? That is really strange. I

658
00:51:53,440 --> 00:51:57,920
mean, you know, it's strange
that those similar ties, you know,

659
00:51:58,039 --> 00:52:01,440
it's it's the same story, hold
a different way. Really when you think

660
00:52:01,440 --> 00:52:07,599
about it, right, imagine it
must be whether you know, depending on

661
00:52:07,760 --> 00:52:13,639
how much of it is physical,
paraphysical, or a state of consciousness,

662
00:52:14,159 --> 00:52:16,599
it seems to all be coming from
the same source, right, just manifesting

663
00:52:16,679 --> 00:52:23,840
in slightly different ways. But that's
interesting about talking about I read John kills

664
00:52:24,000 --> 00:52:30,679
bio, you know, a bio
of him on the internet, and he

665
00:52:30,880 --> 00:52:35,719
determined and we've talked about this before, to switchy is um that most us

666
00:52:36,280 --> 00:52:40,639
spotted on Wednesdays and Saturdays, Okay, Wednesdays and Saturdays. That I find

667
00:52:40,719 --> 00:52:45,719
fascinating that someone has been able to
that, to me, is a scientific

668
00:52:45,880 --> 00:52:49,920
way of looking at UFAs. You
know what I mean, it's okay,

669
00:52:50,199 --> 00:52:52,360
you know, how would a scientists
do it? Okay? When do they

670
00:52:52,360 --> 00:52:54,320
appear? When do people see them? What time of day? What's the

671
00:52:54,440 --> 00:52:59,480
weather? You know, that's a
very interesting statement. I think that most

672
00:52:59,519 --> 00:53:04,400
U falls seeing them Wednesdays and status
why Wednesdays and Saturdays? And there are

673
00:53:04,440 --> 00:53:07,760
certain months I forget which ones.
You know. There was as a researcher

674
00:53:07,840 --> 00:53:09,719
named a mad John Maluten, who
I don't know a lot about, but

675
00:53:09,760 --> 00:53:14,639
he wrote articles for the Flying Saucer
Review over many years. He wrote a

676
00:53:14,679 --> 00:53:20,760
book on the humanoids over sixty years, and he took Albert Rosales's database.

677
00:53:21,239 --> 00:53:23,079
Albert Rosales, as you know,
he's the one that wrote a series of

678
00:53:23,159 --> 00:53:29,079
books called Humanoids the Others amongst Us, and he, you know, he

679
00:53:29,199 --> 00:53:32,559
collects just an amazing array all the
way from you know, O one a

680
00:53:32,800 --> 00:53:38,960
d up to the present of these
other other beings and you know, so

681
00:53:39,079 --> 00:53:44,960
many more different. So John Maluden
took the crunch the numbers and he found

682
00:53:45,039 --> 00:53:50,719
crazy things like the best time to
see a have a humanoid encounter is between

683
00:53:51,159 --> 00:53:53,599
ten pm and two am. I've
seen you know, you might as well

684
00:53:53,639 --> 00:53:57,960
just eat your lunch and not worry
about it. But he found it was

685
00:53:58,320 --> 00:54:02,800
it took place the same you know, as the world turns in the same

686
00:54:02,880 --> 00:54:07,719
time zone. Yeah, yeah,
yeah, whatever times we talk, suggesting

687
00:54:07,800 --> 00:54:12,360
that the point of what entry or
the point of manifestation was identical as the

688
00:54:12,480 --> 00:54:17,920
world moved. And then furthermore,
he found that he called them humanoid oh

689
00:54:19,039 --> 00:54:23,280
not outbreaks, but I can't remember
his term, but they would you know,

690
00:54:23,840 --> 00:54:28,039
they were over there were cycles over
eight to ten years. There'd be

691
00:54:28,119 --> 00:54:30,079
a humanoid outbreak if you if you
want to call it, that, somewhere

692
00:54:30,119 --> 00:54:34,559
in South America, and then it
would be somewhere in North America, the

693
00:54:34,719 --> 00:54:37,920
US or Canada maybe a year or
two later, and then it would move

694
00:54:37,000 --> 00:54:44,320
across to the European continent and then
to Malaysia perhaps or you know in that

695
00:54:44,480 --> 00:54:50,320
area, or China or whatever,
and then circle around again to South America.

696
00:54:50,360 --> 00:54:54,679
That's ten years cycle. That's a
pattern. That's a that's what to

697
00:54:54,760 --> 00:54:59,639
interrupt you. But that's scientists look
for. They look for patents and things,

698
00:55:00,119 --> 00:55:01,719
and that gets you closer to what
the hell was going on. Like

699
00:55:01,880 --> 00:55:06,840
we go back to that Hanada Air
Force Base incident in nineteen fifty one in

700
00:55:06,920 --> 00:55:10,719
career where you know, lots of
people, you know, saw this UFO.

701
00:55:10,840 --> 00:55:15,440
Lots of people saw this UFO when
the guy who was running Bluebook at

702
00:55:15,480 --> 00:55:17,920
the time said, why don't we
do a scientific study on this particularly UFO

703
00:55:17,960 --> 00:55:22,239
because it looked like it was in
a search pattern, a checkerboard search pattern.

704
00:55:22,480 --> 00:55:27,679
And they said, are these things
intelligently controlled? Like a flight of

705
00:55:27,760 --> 00:55:31,320
geese or like a bunch of bees
just flying around crazy? Right? The

706
00:55:31,440 --> 00:55:36,079
Pentagon wouldn't give him the money to
do that, but that's the right approach,

707
00:55:36,440 --> 00:55:38,840
and this guy has taking the right
approach. Find out what time of

708
00:55:39,000 --> 00:55:43,039
day people see these things, what
day of the month, you know.

709
00:55:43,280 --> 00:55:45,960
The fact that it's in the same
time zone is freaky. That tells you

710
00:55:45,039 --> 00:55:51,320
there's something, there's some intelligent force
behind it. There has to be for

711
00:55:51,400 --> 00:55:54,599
it to show up in time.
It also tells you that people aren't hallucinating.

712
00:55:54,880 --> 00:55:59,079
Yeah yeah right, yeah, yeah, wow, that is good.

713
00:55:59,599 --> 00:56:01,960
That many people making it up right
at the same time and day and in

714
00:56:02,039 --> 00:56:06,800
the fifties, and we'd get all
these reports, some kind of dubious but

715
00:56:07,519 --> 00:56:13,039
that they were supposedly they were tracking
flying saucers as they call them, coming

716
00:56:13,079 --> 00:56:15,599
out of the Antarctic. Well that
would fit. I mean, if they

717
00:56:15,679 --> 00:56:20,760
come out of the Antarctic first and
it hit South America, is loop around

718
00:56:20,760 --> 00:56:23,360
the globe? You know that that
might also. It's fascinating. And then

719
00:56:23,559 --> 00:56:29,400
and then you go back to you
know, Chilean ideas. He started talking

720
00:56:29,440 --> 00:56:35,360
about window areas because so many of
these craft and so many of these entities

721
00:56:35,920 --> 00:56:40,440
were different. You know, he
had the general type of humanoid or the

722
00:56:40,639 --> 00:56:45,039
general types of crafts, but very
few were identical. Yeah right, that's

723
00:56:45,199 --> 00:56:49,239
weird too. There's the flying Saucer, there's the flying Sigad, there's the

724
00:56:49,320 --> 00:56:52,679
gray aliens, the nortic alien.
You know those are optillon very strange.

725
00:56:52,719 --> 00:56:55,920
Hey, listen, we can think
of break. Are you ready al ready

726
00:56:55,920 --> 00:56:59,920
for a break there? Runkle Okay, he gave me a thumbs up.

727
00:57:00,039 --> 00:57:02,440
I mean that means okay, So
why don't we do this? Why don't

728
00:57:02,440 --> 00:57:05,960
we take a commercial right now?
And when'll be right back after this the

729
00:57:06,039 --> 00:57:12,679
inblating to mcmloney's milk track style show
here on the Distant Thunder Radio Network.

730
00:57:13,440 --> 00:57:16,360
Thank you, Guan Juan. We
were talking a lot about John Kiel tonight

731
00:57:16,400 --> 00:57:20,880
and all kind of different things that
he was into and we'll be right back

732
00:57:20,960 --> 00:57:24,559
after this. Please stay too.
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738
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739
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742
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We went to Maclonei's mild trunks.
I'll show here on the distance on a

750
00:59:25,400 --> 00:59:29,239
radio network. This is Macaroni.
Well, what a show we have for

751
00:59:29,280 --> 00:59:34,280
you tonight, but far ast girls, he's very famous one one. Hello

752
00:59:34,360 --> 00:59:37,480
girls, Hello everybody, welcome back
to the show. It's a fun one

753
00:59:37,519 --> 00:59:40,320
so far, and it's going to
get even funner funner with our new guests.

754
00:59:40,360 --> 00:59:43,480
Yes, that a British word.
They use that over there. I'll

755
00:59:43,480 --> 00:59:47,039
try. We're trying to make all
our words smaller, you know, and

756
00:59:47,360 --> 00:59:52,320
they really get to it, freaking
British. Well you kicked the rass and

757
00:59:52,360 --> 00:59:58,599
this is how they treat us.
Um No Coco Tonight, Mill Skills and

758
00:59:58,679 --> 01:00:00,800
Gigi girls. He's out saving the
world, flying around somewhere, however,

759
01:00:01,320 --> 01:00:08,239
switch Blade Steve Ward on National Correspondent
Here, okay, a big piece of

760
01:00:08,320 --> 01:00:12,639
meat loaf into the day, right, well, yeah, earlier in the

761
01:00:12,719 --> 01:00:15,159
day. Is that the place you
don't have to leave a tip? Yes,

762
01:00:15,280 --> 01:00:19,920
they don't. They don't have any
provision for tips for me. I

763
01:00:19,960 --> 01:00:24,119
would gladly put something in the fifth
win win for switching, um, win

764
01:00:24,199 --> 01:00:31,000
win for switching. Yeah, well
I guess yeah yeah yes. Also also

765
01:00:32,000 --> 01:00:37,519
our security chief, Willie Club,
who right now looks like a superhero because

766
01:00:37,519 --> 01:00:43,679
it looks the shed then the shadow
across his eyes like a mask. Yeah,

767
01:00:43,719 --> 01:00:49,639
the sun is setting this time a
night raise. I need those rays,

768
01:00:49,880 --> 01:00:52,960
you know, so I won't get
depressed. Really. But anyways,

769
01:00:53,320 --> 01:00:58,400
speaking of being depressed, I when
you I got on the show, I

770
01:00:58,440 --> 01:01:00,440
said, uh, I wonder what
we're going to do tonight, and you

771
01:01:00,559 --> 01:01:06,599
announced there was no top ten on
pinching myself ever since really pinching yourself.

772
01:01:07,400 --> 01:01:12,480
That's really that that made my night. That's really be depressed because he was

773
01:01:12,519 --> 01:01:15,760
bitten by a radioactive spider something.
He's been hanging around a your now.

774
01:01:15,800 --> 01:01:19,519
It then happened down at the potty, so he must have been bitten somewhere

775
01:01:19,559 --> 01:01:24,559
else, anyone. He's here also
in the studio with us driving the getaway

776
01:01:24,639 --> 01:01:30,119
car. Is Ufo mechanical right now
though, Hello mac Hel, Hello everyone,

777
01:01:30,239 --> 01:01:36,000
you club you you're depressed, you've
been hanging around you or too much?

778
01:01:37,000 --> 01:01:38,519
No, no, but I need
this this time of the day.

779
01:01:38,639 --> 01:01:44,760
It's get at sunset gives me that
extra energy that I need to carry me

780
01:01:44,880 --> 01:01:47,119
through the night. Oh really,
okay? Are they so gummies for that?

781
01:01:47,320 --> 01:01:51,480
Now? You know that? Yeah? But yeah, that's your thing.

782
01:01:52,199 --> 01:01:58,920
Make me do goofy, goofy enough, goofy enough. Anyway, sun

783
01:01:59,039 --> 01:02:02,679
setting on in clubs neighborhood, and
it's tomorrow already over there, yeah,

784
01:02:04,719 --> 01:02:08,840
across the pond um also with us
is our favorite good which up there in

785
01:02:09,199 --> 01:02:13,679
sad ways? And yeah, Raven
isn't Raven? How are you? Hello?

786
01:02:13,840 --> 01:02:15,599
My friends? Thank you for having
me. Is this the first bun

787
01:02:15,679 --> 01:02:21,760
of twenty twenty three? Would you
say? Actually, it might be.

788
01:02:22,000 --> 01:02:25,840
I've learned a lot of hats,
a lot of hats. Right, Oh

789
01:02:27,119 --> 01:02:30,519
God, you just sent me into
like an existential crisis. Is this the

790
01:02:30,719 --> 01:02:36,400
first bun of the year. It's
almost June, right right, Okay,

791
01:02:37,079 --> 01:02:40,280
we'll go back over every show every
wee and we'll see what I'm gonna have

792
01:02:40,320 --> 01:02:43,280
to go back and listen to all
the episodes I don't know. Okay,

793
01:02:43,840 --> 01:02:46,360
one of the interns, don't it? What is wrong with me? What's

794
01:02:46,360 --> 01:02:51,360
the name of that beer? What
is the name of the beer? Tangerine

795
01:02:51,440 --> 01:02:58,280
shandy? Okay, all right,
then taste good and it's high alcoholic content.

796
01:02:58,440 --> 01:03:02,880
Well I'm guessing because I can't.
I will pass away immediately. This

797
01:03:04,119 --> 01:03:07,239
is five percent. Anything above six
percent, I will die on the spot.

798
01:03:07,440 --> 01:03:09,480
Really, will you do it?
While we're on the not there in

799
01:03:09,519 --> 01:03:14,239
the commercial? You want me to
you want me to pass away on the

800
01:03:14,360 --> 01:03:17,639
end. That was importation. Let's
get to our guests, right, have

801
01:03:17,760 --> 01:03:22,159
I introduced everyone in embarrassed everyone in
the Okay, yes, let's get to

802
01:03:22,280 --> 01:03:27,960
our lovely guests. Bobara, Richer, Bobara. How are you? I'm

803
01:03:28,079 --> 01:03:30,519
fine? How are you? Where
are you? Where are you in the

804
01:03:30,760 --> 01:03:35,519
in the country? Okay, I'm
in Athens, Ohio. I'm from Charleston,

805
01:03:35,599 --> 01:03:39,639
West Virginia, but I pretty much
stay away from my home state,

806
01:03:40,079 --> 01:03:45,280
West Virginia. Yep, she has
switch moved there. No, no,

807
01:03:45,519 --> 01:03:49,760
no, he's actually a reason to
go back, you know, And really

808
01:03:50,119 --> 01:03:52,400
is that bad at point pleasant?
Which is just might as well be in

809
01:03:52,480 --> 01:03:55,159
Ohio. We just have to cross
that big river. And there you are

810
01:03:57,360 --> 01:04:03,400
with the group down in last September. Several several big names like Joshua Cutcheon

811
01:04:03,480 --> 01:04:08,719
and Greg Bishop, they do,
and you know several others. They do

812
01:04:08,880 --> 01:04:13,199
a annual trip and they decided to
make it a point pleasant. So Barbara

813
01:04:13,280 --> 01:04:15,639
was able to come down. I
was able to meet her and several of

814
01:04:15,639 --> 01:04:17,559
the other We just had a great
time. I showed him around the museum

815
01:04:17,599 --> 01:04:21,000
in the T and T area,
and that they seem to really enjoy it.

816
01:04:21,599 --> 01:04:27,559
Bobad did switch pull a quarter out
of the Mothman statues? Ass?

817
01:04:29,239 --> 01:04:31,480
No, No, we just took
lots of pictures of people around the ass

818
01:04:31,760 --> 01:04:40,360
really around me because of zapp Elatch's
ass. You gotta yeah, oh great,

819
01:04:40,599 --> 01:04:43,840
very cool. So Boba tell us, now, you are a big

820
01:04:43,920 --> 01:04:47,000
fan of John Keels, among other
people. But you have a podcast devoted

821
01:04:47,079 --> 01:04:51,480
to John Keele. It's not devoted
to John Keel, but it's named after

822
01:04:51,639 --> 01:04:56,280
John Keele, so we talk about
everything. Yeah, it's called six Degrees

823
01:04:56,320 --> 01:05:01,199
of John Keel because in the opening
of Strange Creatures from Time and Space he

824
01:05:01,400 --> 01:05:05,119
says, less than a hundred miles
from you, someone who's seen a hairy

825
01:05:05,199 --> 01:05:12,519
monster. Another person has seen a
strange light in the sky and perhaps even

826
01:05:12,800 --> 01:05:17,840
was touched by an alien. Another
one is going to come across a ghost

827
01:05:17,960 --> 01:05:21,880
and the next time it might be
you. And I read that aloud and

828
01:05:23,000 --> 01:05:26,639
looked at my co host, who's
also my daughter, and I said,

829
01:05:27,079 --> 01:05:30,840
that's like six degrees of like Kevin
Bacon gets weirder yea. And she looked

830
01:05:30,840 --> 01:05:33,639
at me and she went, it's
six degrees of John Keel And then I

831
01:05:33,800 --> 01:05:35,480
was like, yeah, it is, and she goes, that's the name

832
01:05:35,480 --> 01:05:38,880
of the podcast. That's a very
cool story. Yeah. Yeah, let's

833
01:05:38,960 --> 01:05:45,119
let's say at out of applause.
Yeah, it's brilliant, really is um.

834
01:05:45,880 --> 01:05:48,599
Now he's an interesting guy and I
switch talks about him a lot,

835
01:05:49,199 --> 01:05:51,840
and uh, we were talking earlier
on the show. The first kind of

836
01:05:51,880 --> 01:05:55,719
paranormal book I have a bought was
just like at a yad sale and there

837
01:05:55,760 --> 01:05:59,639
was The Monthman Prophecies and it's a
good wouldn't start with it? Really and

838
01:05:59,760 --> 01:06:01,599
it and you know what attracts me
was the title. The title was just

839
01:06:01,760 --> 01:06:04,920
this cool title, what does this
mean? Moth Man props? And that

840
01:06:05,079 --> 01:06:10,159
read it and I liked his writing. You know, he was actually kind

841
01:06:10,159 --> 01:06:13,599
of a good writer. And when
you dove back in to his background,

842
01:06:13,679 --> 01:06:16,119
he was he was a foreign correspondent
during the Queen of War and he's been

843
01:06:16,199 --> 01:06:18,559
here that he's been done a lot
of stuff. Plus that he lives up

844
01:06:18,599 --> 01:06:21,239
in the Upper West Side, which
we've talked about Mighty. He might have

845
01:06:21,400 --> 01:06:25,719
stayed there because of rent control,
but that's a very expensive part of the

846
01:06:25,760 --> 01:06:28,000
world to live in. So he
must have been doing very well as a

847
01:06:28,119 --> 01:06:30,960
writer. But a very interesting guy. We talked about earlier. How he

848
01:06:31,320 --> 01:06:34,360
you know, found that Yeah,
UFOs show up in a certain day,

849
01:06:34,440 --> 01:06:39,239
certain time, certain place on And
I love that phrase that you just wrote,

850
01:06:39,320 --> 01:06:43,000
because this stuff goes on around us
all the time, but it's just

851
01:06:43,239 --> 01:06:45,280
not connected by I don't have a
media or something. I don't know,

852
01:06:45,400 --> 01:06:48,079
but people see ghosts all the time, and see UFOs all the time,

853
01:06:48,079 --> 01:06:53,199
and see months as this goes on
all the time. And he was the

854
01:06:53,280 --> 01:06:57,320
guy who tried to bring it together. You know. Interesting. Yeah,

855
01:06:57,760 --> 01:07:00,880
he's one of the first ones to
read, go, hey, you know,

856
01:07:01,079 --> 01:07:06,039
the only thing we really have our
witness observations, So why don't we

857
01:07:06,079 --> 01:07:10,840
look at the witnesses. And he's
the first one to say, you know,

858
01:07:11,000 --> 01:07:15,519
hey, so you saw UFO and
it looked like this and had a

859
01:07:15,639 --> 01:07:18,639
light and everything. Did anything else
happen before that or after that? Yes?

860
01:07:19,719 --> 01:07:24,280
And he said, you know,
nine times out of ten, somebody

861
01:07:24,400 --> 01:07:27,880
was having nightmares, somebody had a
ghost in the house. There was poltergeist

862
01:07:27,920 --> 01:07:32,159
activity their TV. Would you know, go on the fritz the same time

863
01:07:32,280 --> 01:07:35,559
every night and then come back on
the same time every night. There were

864
01:07:35,599 --> 01:07:43,559
weird phone calls. Somebody would call
their phone and say, thirty nine seventy

865
01:07:43,639 --> 01:07:47,840
five, fifty six, thirty nine
seventy five fifty sixty one. Let's play

866
01:07:47,960 --> 01:07:51,679
that number one man. Okay,
I'm sorry, bobco And he would see

867
01:07:51,800 --> 01:07:56,280
sometimes they would see cryptids at other
times in their light. He found there

868
01:07:56,320 --> 01:07:59,920
was a whole He developed a whole
series of questions. They asked me speak

869
01:08:00,079 --> 01:08:03,719
and barn. But think how how
many investigators through the sixties and seventies had

870
01:08:03,800 --> 01:08:08,079
no idea. So they want people
they pay, well, I hope you

871
01:08:08,159 --> 01:08:11,960
can, uh you know, solve
your missing time dilemma, but have no

872
01:08:12,239 --> 01:08:15,119
idea to ask all those other questions. Yeah, and get that rich background

873
01:08:15,359 --> 01:08:18,319
of what they have been experienced.
It was almost it was almost it was

874
01:08:18,359 --> 01:08:23,439
an anecdotal approach. But it's almost
a scientific approach too. You know,

875
01:08:23,960 --> 01:08:27,840
let's look at the statistics, you
know, yeah, you know, oh

876
01:08:28,000 --> 01:08:30,479
you sure uf Well how many people
who so you are UFOs and reported them

877
01:08:30,880 --> 01:08:35,920
sure encrypted before a raft? How
many people's TVs went crazy boom? How

878
01:08:36,000 --> 01:08:42,359
many people's telephones areen crazy you massave. That's the data you need. Yeah,

879
01:08:43,359 --> 01:08:46,720
it's you get relatives, you know, of these witnesses who didn't know

880
01:08:47,000 --> 01:08:50,680
that their you know, witness had
seen a UFO. But you know,

881
01:08:51,119 --> 01:08:57,840
earlier in this person's life, say, aunt so and so had a weird

882
01:08:58,439 --> 01:09:02,600
thing happened where she went to a
trance out of the blue and started spouting

883
01:09:02,720 --> 01:09:06,359
something in another language, or had
automatic writing happened. I mean, all

884
01:09:06,479 --> 01:09:12,920
us really money weird stuff. And
even if the UFO investigators of the time

885
01:09:13,560 --> 01:09:15,760
got wind of any of this,
they hardly ever wrote it down, or

886
01:09:15,800 --> 01:09:20,079
if they did, they threw it
away immediately afterwards because they didn't want to

887
01:09:20,199 --> 01:09:25,720
discredit themselves by talking about the woo
woo creepy crazy stuff. Right, yes,

888
01:09:25,840 --> 01:09:28,359
yeah, yeah, yeah, that's
very interesting. Yeah I could see

889
01:09:28,399 --> 01:09:30,159
that happening. Hey we're talking about
UFOs. Yeah, you know, some

890
01:09:30,439 --> 01:09:33,720
editor would say, you know,
I'm not you know, cryptids when would

891
01:09:33,720 --> 01:09:38,119
stick to the story, you know, one, please tell the audience about

892
01:09:38,159 --> 01:09:42,439
your automatic writing story. Maybe we
can do it on a Mac after dot

893
01:09:42,520 --> 01:09:45,840
co up. Yeah, for sure. And you've seen you might have seen

894
01:09:45,840 --> 01:09:50,079
automatic writing portrayed in a really cool
way in that movie. Others would nicole

895
01:09:50,159 --> 01:09:55,479
kid right, it's basically some assistant
would have pen. When I was dating

896
01:09:55,840 --> 01:10:01,479
that's right. When I was dating
my wife back in the seventies, we

897
01:10:02,159 --> 01:10:05,000
went to seances, you know,
just for fun. Sometimes we went to

898
01:10:05,079 --> 01:10:08,960
the movie, sometimes we went to
a seance. So this time we went

899
01:10:09,039 --> 01:10:15,960
to a seance and my wife,
Eileen's mother was a medium, just sort

900
01:10:15,000 --> 01:10:18,479
of you know, in the spare
time, and she did walk confentrating that

901
01:10:18,520 --> 01:10:23,079
she was a medium. But a
close friend she she was a medium.

902
01:10:23,119 --> 01:10:30,239
So she was asked if she could
attend the seance and maybe, you know,

903
01:10:30,399 --> 01:10:34,600
maybe a chance we can reach out
to this individual family member, not

904
01:10:34,720 --> 01:10:39,159
our family, but somebody else's family
and see what's going on. So we

905
01:10:39,279 --> 01:10:44,279
went there and it was about eight
of us there holding hands around the stable,

906
01:10:45,239 --> 01:10:47,880
and you know, I'm just kind
of new in the organization here,

907
01:10:47,920 --> 01:10:51,560
I'm just starting to date my wife
and when I'm looking around her, Okay,

908
01:10:51,800 --> 01:10:57,159
I'm cool with this and still married, And I was cool with it,

909
01:10:57,640 --> 01:10:59,920
but I wasn't sure what was going
to happen, because it says,

910
01:11:00,039 --> 01:11:03,399
totally by surprise, I see my
mother and my mother in law. Her

911
01:11:03,439 --> 01:11:08,560
name is Catherine. She she goes, you know, she's asking questions,

912
01:11:09,560 --> 01:11:12,720
trying to reach out to this person. She she didn't really know a lot

913
01:11:12,760 --> 01:11:15,800
about the person yet, but she
was starting to learn it and then she

914
01:11:15,960 --> 01:11:25,800
had some information already. What surprised
you about this whole session? It was

915
01:11:25,960 --> 01:11:30,199
totally um. She was writing down
a piece of paper, all these in

916
01:11:30,600 --> 01:11:38,479
unintelligible scribbles, just like a circle
up and downs and just kind of and

917
01:11:38,640 --> 01:11:44,039
she would be talking what she was
hearing, what she was interpreting through the

918
01:11:44,119 --> 01:11:48,760
scribbles, just like in that move
with the others, went Eileen, that's

919
01:11:48,760 --> 01:11:53,399
what I was done. Yeah,
oh man, it's strange. And and

920
01:11:53,520 --> 01:11:56,439
she used to do this all the
time. So it was a real eye

921
01:11:56,479 --> 01:12:01,199
opener for everybody because she was really
talking about things that she wouldn't have known

922
01:12:01,279 --> 01:12:04,840
about. Nobody briefed her, right, yeah, and it was it was,

923
01:12:05,600 --> 01:12:11,960
it was, it was an awakening
for me. This kind of technology

924
01:12:12,039 --> 01:12:16,119
if you will. It's kind of
a paranormal technology would actually works. Yeah,

925
01:12:16,239 --> 01:12:19,159
right in a funny way. I
saw in front of my eyes that

926
01:12:19,239 --> 01:12:24,439
went wow, m did you did
your mother in law, your future mother

927
01:12:24,439 --> 01:12:28,960
in law seeing in the future and
she you two getting hitched? Uh?

928
01:12:29,079 --> 01:12:31,520
She she kind of predicted us getting
hitched, but she couldn't see too much

929
01:12:31,520 --> 01:12:35,199
in the future beyond that. She's
she's passed on. But I don't think

930
01:12:35,239 --> 01:12:39,720
she was Doc. And it was
Doc after to be married after all this

931
01:12:39,800 --> 01:12:44,239
time, it's nineteen seventy five.
Listen, you're listening to macm You listen

932
01:12:44,279 --> 01:12:46,600
to mcaw on the Military ex Show
Here in the Distant Thunder Radio anywhere,

933
01:12:46,800 --> 01:12:51,520
the whole gang is here and also
Boba Richard, who is co host of

934
01:12:53,039 --> 01:12:58,000
a podcast called Six Degrees of John
Kiel. John Kill very interesting paranormal right,

935
01:12:58,119 --> 01:13:00,479
one of the best, I think, because it's a real journalist,

936
01:13:00,880 --> 01:13:02,840
do you know what I mean?
He knew the journalistic style and not a

937
01:13:02,920 --> 01:13:06,159
lot of paranormal books follow that,
but he knew how to tell a story,

938
01:13:06,359 --> 01:13:11,159
you know. And anyway, So, Barbara, do you want to

939
01:13:11,640 --> 01:13:15,640
try out ten true or false questions
about John Keel? See how many you

940
01:13:15,680 --> 01:13:18,319
get five, will give the shot
five thousand dollars prize at the end of

941
01:13:18,439 --> 01:13:26,840
if you get them all right,
brand I don't get paid five. Switchy

942
01:13:26,880 --> 01:13:28,520
will send it to you. All
right, Here we go, Do you

943
01:13:28,640 --> 01:13:31,880
have it? I have it right
here? Okay, here we go.

944
01:13:31,960 --> 01:13:34,720
All right, we've done this already. You know it's a huge hit.

945
01:13:34,880 --> 01:13:41,239
So um kind of anyone who knows
the answers, don't say any right,

946
01:13:41,359 --> 01:13:43,800
Okay, we can just start at
number ten and we'll put the music in

947
01:13:43,960 --> 01:13:50,880
here. Number ten true or false. Keel Ones published an article titled are

948
01:13:51,039 --> 01:13:56,600
you a repressed sex Fiend? True? True? All right, hang on,

949
01:13:56,760 --> 01:14:04,359
Oh we better go fund me now. For nine true or false.

950
01:14:05,000 --> 01:14:12,840
Keel hated cats so much he invented
cat traps, which were essentially very large

951
01:14:12,960 --> 01:14:20,199
mouse traps and just as effective.
False. Oh please, he's gonna give

952
01:14:20,199 --> 01:14:25,560
a switch to run for his money. Uh. Number eight true or false.

953
01:14:25,800 --> 01:14:32,720
Keel wrote scripts for the TV show
The Monkeys. True. He wrote

954
01:14:32,720 --> 01:14:36,119
a lot for a lot of shows. I'm just taking age. But he

955
01:14:36,279 --> 01:14:43,079
was not good. Yeah that's true, okay, I said false because I

956
01:14:43,439 --> 01:14:48,159
newly written for Griffin ad Lives and
uh, get smart, smart and so

957
01:14:48,279 --> 01:14:51,079
Forth. Yeah, Austin Space.
Yep, so he was in Man.

958
01:14:51,119 --> 01:14:55,119
He must have been a kind of
rich guy. Actually made most of his

959
01:14:55,239 --> 01:15:00,439
money at the time. I'm sure
script work good for him. Uh.

960
01:15:00,640 --> 01:15:03,840
Number seven true or false. Keel
was the first person to coin the term

961
01:15:04,039 --> 01:15:11,920
men in black. I know he
popularized it. I'll say, yes,

962
01:15:13,680 --> 01:15:21,159
true, Wow, this is interesting. He definitely popularized, popularized. But

963
01:15:21,239 --> 01:15:25,640
there's a there's a guy, you
know, Tom Montalone. Yeah, guy

964
01:15:25,720 --> 01:15:30,239
that Yes, he claims. He
claims he was the first one to coin

965
01:15:30,319 --> 01:15:32,680
it. When he talked to Kill. Some others said no, it was

966
01:15:32,720 --> 01:15:39,039
Albert Bender. He talked about men
in black at the at nineteen sixty seven

967
01:15:39,119 --> 01:15:44,560
convention. But Kill definitely made it. I think he and Gray Barker really

968
01:15:45,520 --> 01:15:49,680
popularized it. And then the story
about Albert Bender and the visitors at his

969
01:15:49,840 --> 01:15:56,520
door and yeah, you know,
the disappearing dime and the dude drinking chlorox

970
01:15:56,720 --> 01:16:02,199
and yeah, okay, she was
having isshoes. Yeah, I'll say that's

971
01:16:02,359 --> 01:16:08,720
fun. Yeah Raven Okay. Number
six true or false. Kiel was known

972
01:16:11,439 --> 01:16:15,640
Kiel who was known true his close
friends as Dick Wrangler due to all the

973
01:16:15,760 --> 01:16:20,079
poon tank he got over the years. I did not write these. I

974
01:16:20,199 --> 01:16:27,079
did not write these. I'll say
true because it's too funny. Oh,

975
01:16:27,560 --> 01:16:33,680
thank god. I didn't really think
it was true, but I kind of

976
01:16:33,760 --> 01:16:41,760
hoped it was. Yeah, crazy
stuff comes out of max brain that minute,

977
01:16:41,760 --> 01:16:45,079
it doesn't come down. That is
a truth statement. Wow, you

978
01:16:45,239 --> 01:16:47,319
two two? Are you turning on
me? A two raven? Next?

979
01:16:47,760 --> 01:16:51,000
I'm not turning on you. You
know exactly who I am as a person.

980
01:16:54,319 --> 01:17:00,359
Next, please, Okay, number
the five true or false. Keel

981
01:17:00,680 --> 01:17:05,000
wrote a book called Disneyland of the
Gods True true, Yeah, and he

982
01:17:05,239 --> 01:17:08,920
was pissed off when he wrote it, But I love that title. Man,

983
01:17:09,000 --> 01:17:14,680
that's the best he was. He
was done the altra terrestrial, the

984
01:17:14,720 --> 01:17:20,960
whole thing. He was bitter and
angry and he'd had enough of their nonsense.

985
01:17:21,199 --> 01:17:25,479
Yeah, funny, Okay, I'm
surprised scolds them. By the end

986
01:17:25,520 --> 01:17:28,680
of the book, he's just like
on a rant about how you know,

987
01:17:28,720 --> 01:17:32,000
they're all a bunch of lawyers and
horrible creatures and you shouldn't listen to them

988
01:17:32,039 --> 01:17:38,720
and yeah with them. Basically,
I'm surprised that Disney's lawyers, also horrible

989
01:17:38,760 --> 01:17:43,199
creatures, didn't come after him with
a lawsuits the size of that. Yeah,

990
01:17:43,640 --> 01:17:45,960
I was kind of wondered about that
to use the title. Yeah,

991
01:17:46,039 --> 01:17:49,560
that's bad. I mean we must
have found some type of a loophole though,

992
01:17:49,880 --> 01:17:55,960
because, like knowing Disney, maybe
it just didn't sell enough copies for

993
01:17:56,039 --> 01:18:00,479
me. Yeah, maybe they didn't
even care. I don't know. At

994
01:18:00,520 --> 01:18:03,159
the same time, you know,
they are well known for having sent lawyers

995
01:18:03,239 --> 01:18:10,399
after children's hospital that painted their characters. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, there

996
01:18:10,479 --> 01:18:15,279
must have been some type of a
loophole or I don't know. Maybe I

997
01:18:15,319 --> 01:18:16,960
don't think so. I think it's
I think it's added to my list of

998
01:18:17,039 --> 01:18:21,159
deep dives we used to do.
We used to drinking a ba in Albany,

999
01:18:21,239 --> 01:18:27,119
New York, lonely Lowry Raven's father
and a bunch of us who worked

1000
01:18:27,159 --> 01:18:30,600
together. And it was a place
called Mickey's Mousetrap. It was the best

1001
01:18:30,720 --> 01:18:32,880
dive by in the world. It
was in the back of a shopping well.

1002
01:18:32,960 --> 01:18:36,439
Can you imagine that, you know, on the ground, and it's

1003
01:18:36,520 --> 01:18:41,600
great, great pizza and the sign
was Mickey's Mousetrap and there was the mouse

1004
01:18:41,760 --> 01:18:45,479
on the sign that looked kind of
like Mickey Mouse. So we'd go there

1005
01:18:45,560 --> 01:18:47,039
on every Friday. We could have
you know, missed a couple of weeks.

1006
01:18:47,079 --> 01:18:50,520
We went down there in the name
of the place is um Mike's,

1007
01:18:53,000 --> 01:18:55,960
you know, sand trap or something, and we said what happened? They

1008
01:18:56,000 --> 01:19:00,279
said, Disney lawyers came in and
said you got to change everything. We're

1009
01:19:00,279 --> 01:19:01,720
going to sue you too, from
here to the moon. And that's what

1010
01:19:01,800 --> 01:19:05,319
they do. You know, they
protect the brand. But yeah, pretty

1011
01:19:05,399 --> 01:19:10,439
rough about it. Pretty gets a
dive bar. What are they making compared

1012
01:19:10,479 --> 01:19:14,520
to what friggin Disney is making?
Cares you know what I mean about paying

1013
01:19:14,560 --> 01:19:17,760
the lawyers to go and roam around
the country look of stuff like that and

1014
01:19:18,000 --> 01:19:21,680
taking off brought up a good point. Characters in the hospital walk he was

1015
01:19:23,159 --> 01:19:27,279
set up with the in quotes alter
terrestrials. Remember Barbara in the Eighth Tower.

1016
01:19:27,640 --> 01:19:30,079
He talks about how he was embarrassed
that standing out at night. Sometimes

1017
01:19:30,119 --> 01:19:33,000
he was good. He was listening
to a lot of the channeling they was

1018
01:19:33,039 --> 01:19:36,960
coming through these contact ees, and
we know from the big breakthrough in the

1019
01:19:38,000 --> 01:19:40,880
Big Blackout, he was buying a
lot of it for a time, but

1020
01:19:41,039 --> 01:19:43,800
then he got I can see how
they got so fed up. And the

1021
01:19:43,880 --> 01:19:48,640
deception, the normal deception that comes
through seances region boards and channeling. So

1022
01:19:48,840 --> 01:19:53,560
that's that's a really good point.
Yeah, and that's pretty much what he

1023
01:19:53,840 --> 01:19:59,039
was, you know, ranting about
in most of Disneyland of the Gods.

1024
01:19:59,359 --> 01:20:01,479
You know. Maybe it's just that
Disney hasn't noticed that. Maybe I'm saying

1025
01:20:01,560 --> 01:20:11,560
it um because they might notice.
I won't hashtag Disney in this. Don't

1026
01:20:11,600 --> 01:20:16,039
do that. Okay, next n
um? Next okay. Number four truer

1027
01:20:16,159 --> 01:20:21,119
false. Kiel was a lifelong resident
of Truth or Consequences, New Mexico.

1028
01:20:23,680 --> 01:20:29,079
False. Good thing we had that
one. He was actually born in Hornell,

1029
01:20:29,199 --> 01:20:31,079
New York, which is not far
from me. Yeah, he lived

1030
01:20:31,119 --> 01:20:34,880
on very interesting and then he lived
in New York City, Upper West Side

1031
01:20:35,079 --> 01:20:39,920
of Upper West Side. They had
to know. He's also an aries,

1032
01:20:42,840 --> 01:20:48,479
a lot of them side. Next. Please Number three, Kiel's bones are

1033
01:20:48,640 --> 01:20:56,479
buried in your backyard? All false? I was really, where are we

1034
01:20:56,560 --> 01:21:00,279
going to find? I knew they
were with with Steve, So I see

1035
01:21:00,359 --> 01:21:03,319
she rated you out. You said
false to that. Next you lied to

1036
01:21:03,520 --> 01:21:12,239
us? Number two true or false. Keel was first cousins with Hollywood actor

1037
01:21:12,319 --> 01:21:17,319
and star of the TV series Dallas
Howard Keel. Oh Wow, that's interesting.

1038
01:21:18,479 --> 01:21:21,159
False, I think, but It
would be so cool if it was

1039
01:21:21,199 --> 01:21:27,159
true. Yeah it's false. Yeah, especially so that's Howard Keel was in

1040
01:21:27,239 --> 01:21:30,520
a Day of the Trippets? Yeah
was he really? See? That would

1041
01:21:30,560 --> 01:21:32,199
have been so cool. Yeah,
that would have been cool. Who knows,

1042
01:21:32,239 --> 01:21:34,840
maybe they were Day of the Trippets. I can't take of her name.

1043
01:21:35,119 --> 01:21:38,359
I met her at the Monster Bash
a few years ago. Oh,

1044
01:21:38,960 --> 01:21:44,119
very nice lady. But you can't
remember her name? No, I guess

1045
01:21:44,239 --> 01:21:46,319
I can't get the moment. Was
it that name? You? He's trying

1046
01:21:46,319 --> 01:21:50,720
to throw name, throw a name
around, but he can't remember name drop.

1047
01:21:50,840 --> 01:21:55,159
Okay, so howpins when't we get
older? It just freething happens?

1048
01:21:55,399 --> 01:21:59,920
Wow? Switch Huh. So why
don't we coach No. Number one?

1049
01:22:00,000 --> 01:22:02,359
We're gonna have to reinterpret number one? Right? One more? Uh?

1050
01:22:03,920 --> 01:22:08,079
This is true or false? I
this this may or may not apply.

1051
01:22:08,359 --> 01:22:12,079
This was written for Steve or Sochi. I should say, uh, true

1052
01:22:12,119 --> 01:22:15,960
or false? Your cat, I
mean you might have a cat named Keel.

1053
01:22:15,039 --> 01:22:18,960
Your cat name Keel appears in your
dreams every night telling you to quote

1054
01:22:19,039 --> 01:22:26,479
unquote lose those other two cats or
else. False. Cats tend to hang

1055
01:22:26,560 --> 01:22:30,600
to him if it was a dog
that they were trying to get rid of

1056
01:22:30,800 --> 01:22:34,720
Oh, that's should I told her
it was basically true, but he said

1057
01:22:35,199 --> 01:22:43,479
belief is the enemy. Yep,
that's true. You guys both did a

1058
01:22:43,520 --> 01:22:45,439
really great job on now. Yeah, yeah, really listen, we're gonna

1059
01:22:45,439 --> 01:22:47,680
take a break now, brob it
can hang with us for a little while.

1060
01:22:47,840 --> 01:22:50,880
Sure, okay, all right,
why don't we take a bush break

1061
01:22:50,920 --> 01:22:55,439
now and we'll be right back after
this. You're listening to mcmoney's militracks on

1062
01:22:55,520 --> 01:22:59,399
the show here on the Distant Thunder
Radio Network. The whole game is here

1063
01:22:59,600 --> 01:23:02,680
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John Kiel's with us over right back.

1064
01:23:03,199 --> 01:23:06,960
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1065
01:23:08,000 --> 01:23:12,279
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1066
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1067
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1068
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1071
01:24:08,119 --> 01:24:11,840
mcmoni's milit tracks. I'll show here
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1072
01:24:11,920 --> 01:24:15,800
Maloni. What a show we'd have
used tonight. Girls, you know he's

1073
01:24:15,880 --> 01:24:18,800
here, the very famous woman.
Hello girls, a little ladies and gentlemen,

1074
01:24:18,880 --> 01:24:23,319
all ships to see you. Welcome
back to the mcmaalonney's military expouse show.

1075
01:24:24,119 --> 01:24:28,560
No Coco tonight, still don't they're
flying around the one stuff. He

1076
01:24:28,680 --> 01:24:30,880
sent me a message the other day. I'm still trying to interpret it with

1077
01:24:30,920 --> 01:24:35,840
the Rosetta stone, you know what
I mean? But uh, here is

1078
01:24:36,880 --> 01:24:42,920
the Coco Dakota ring. Yeah,
right, Cocoa groupings. Yeah, I

1079
01:24:43,000 --> 01:24:48,920
mean it's a three sentence message and
there are more numbers in it than letters,

1080
01:24:49,039 --> 01:24:51,800
you know what I mean. How
military people are gonna anyway? Yep,

1081
01:24:53,199 --> 01:24:57,359
Olco. He ran it through the
cryptograph machine and he's put it the

1082
01:24:57,399 --> 01:25:01,520
crypto part of it rather than the
right play in English twice backwards. Yeah,

1083
01:25:02,239 --> 01:25:10,840
it didn't say drink your oval team
did it? Probably with the quarter

1084
01:25:11,000 --> 01:25:14,199
ring. Yeah, I have one
of those ninety percent sugar there. Funny

1085
01:25:14,800 --> 01:25:18,800
anyway, I like it down there
in sacrambled Eggs, West Virginia. I

1086
01:25:18,880 --> 01:25:21,279
love Bosco. I have a thing
for Blasco when I was growing up,

1087
01:25:23,680 --> 01:25:28,640
switch Blade, Steve would Switchy great
to be here. Switch You want us

1088
01:25:28,640 --> 01:25:30,199
to call you Steve from now on? Are you happy? Can you?

1089
01:25:31,119 --> 01:25:38,760
I'm very happy you can call me
switch you know switch don't call me late

1090
01:25:38,800 --> 01:25:42,800
for dinner. Come on, you
got a jump on those and Nobody's sweetheart.

1091
01:25:43,159 --> 01:25:45,119
I have a great nickname for Switchy. I can't say it on air,

1092
01:25:45,199 --> 01:25:50,079
though, it's filthy. Hold that
thought, Hold that thought, uh

1093
01:25:50,479 --> 01:25:58,800
security Chief Willie Club is here with
us, am a gang. Yeah heavy

1094
01:25:58,840 --> 01:26:01,000
stuff tonight. Yeah that's right?
Yeah, yeah yeah. Are you gonna

1095
01:26:01,000 --> 01:26:06,520
be okay if we have to edit
something out here coming up from ravens Well

1096
01:26:08,000 --> 01:26:10,720
sometime you want to keep that in. You know, she's got some pretty

1097
01:26:11,000 --> 01:26:14,680
good thoughts that we ought to,
you know, get out there with the

1098
01:26:14,760 --> 01:26:19,000
public. Thank you, Club,
you get it. Just write it down

1099
01:26:20,479 --> 01:26:25,399
and hold it up so we can
read it. Now, Hang that voice

1100
01:26:25,439 --> 01:26:28,840
you here is uh oh hour now
though here in the studio with us,

1101
01:26:29,560 --> 01:26:35,439
Hello Mac, Hello everyone, um
uf all mechanic and getaway drive a same

1102
01:26:35,520 --> 01:26:40,720
drill tonight. Raven is with us
though, I favorite good which up there

1103
01:26:40,760 --> 01:26:43,319
in Sadurays Now but the time we
introduce everyone, don't we time to go

1104
01:26:43,920 --> 01:26:50,000
right? Oh? Hello, okay, first one of the twenty twenty three

1105
01:26:50,119 --> 01:26:59,560
now also our guests amazingly staying with
us. Brava Fisher, Hey does the

1106
01:27:00,039 --> 01:27:02,439
starge? Barbara Fisher STI with us? Hey, Yeah, yeah, yeah,

1107
01:27:03,960 --> 01:27:10,159
it's not that hard. Six Degrees
of Oh boy, I think I

1108
01:27:10,359 --> 01:27:16,600
spelled the second word right, because
I'm not everybody's that I've had it.

1109
01:27:17,359 --> 01:27:26,680
You know, what does that even
about that place? Nay? Wow,

1110
01:27:26,880 --> 01:27:30,119
TBB. We'll just something. Let's
just say because they're a radio show.

1111
01:27:30,800 --> 01:27:35,199
Barbara is the co host of six
Degrees of John Keel podcast, which is

1112
01:27:35,239 --> 01:27:41,840
going to be crazy. So but
we're talking about how early before how Raven

1113
01:27:42,199 --> 01:27:45,239
has a new nickname for switch And
someone suggests you hold it up to the

1114
01:27:45,319 --> 01:27:48,159
camera and we just did in three
of us fainted. But what did that

1115
01:27:48,199 --> 01:27:51,119
say? Again? Please put it
up there again, Raven. Here,

1116
01:27:51,159 --> 01:27:54,800
I'll put it. I'll put it
up for our radio show. I'm sorry.

1117
01:27:54,800 --> 01:27:58,039
I'm really bad handwriting, and I'm
illiterate, so I can't spell most

1118
01:27:58,079 --> 01:28:00,399
things. Yeah, he sort of
spelled the word a little strange, you

1119
01:28:00,479 --> 01:28:05,560
know what you get the thought across? Yeah, I was hoping, what's

1120
01:28:05,600 --> 01:28:15,479
a tuna biscuits? He had.
It's wise, that's what it's like.

1121
01:28:15,720 --> 01:28:24,319
Number three in obesity, Shane.
That's only in West Virginia and parts of

1122
01:28:24,399 --> 01:28:28,920
Ohio, and I think there's one
in Pennsylvania. Yeah, and I went

1123
01:28:29,000 --> 01:28:34,359
to the original one. It started
in Charleston, and they have biscuits as

1124
01:28:34,439 --> 01:28:39,159
big as cat's heads. Yes,
and they make sandwiches out of them,

1125
01:28:39,760 --> 01:28:45,159
or they put biscuits and gravy,
which is just God's gift. Ye.

1126
01:28:45,359 --> 01:28:48,960
Now see we have to do a
search up here in why we're all chubby

1127
01:28:49,039 --> 01:28:56,039
in West Virginia and just one thread
to size of Nebraska. Yeah. Yeah,

1128
01:28:56,359 --> 01:29:00,239
it's it's serious food. They also
do beans and cornbread, which is

1129
01:29:00,279 --> 01:29:02,920
the other way I love con Bred
man. That's one of those things I

1130
01:29:02,960 --> 01:29:05,439
could just keep eating. Hey switch, I thought the name of that place

1131
01:29:05,600 --> 01:29:12,640
is Tutors like t O O T
E R s. He sounds just like

1132
01:29:12,760 --> 01:29:15,960
my husband, Who's Who's who.
The first time he came to visit me,

1133
01:29:16,199 --> 01:29:20,079
I still lived in Charleston, and
we told them you'll know you're there

1134
01:29:20,479 --> 01:29:25,359
because you see Tutors biscuit World,
and you take a right and then you

1135
01:29:25,560 --> 01:29:28,960
take another left and then there you
are. You're at the house. And

1136
01:29:29,119 --> 01:29:31,920
he thought it was t O O
t eat. Yeah, yeah, because

1137
01:29:32,479 --> 01:29:39,399
he didn't think it was you know, like Henry Tutor the ladies heads off.

1138
01:29:39,840 --> 01:29:46,119
He was thinking, any restaurant with
the name Tutors, you know it's

1139
01:29:46,159 --> 01:29:48,800
gonna be it sounds like a strip
club, francy. You know, it's

1140
01:29:48,840 --> 01:29:53,279
just like too many beans. Oh
well, you don't want to go that.

1141
01:29:53,600 --> 01:29:58,399
When switching mentioned you know why a
while back the first time he had

1142
01:29:58,439 --> 01:30:01,319
gone to Tutors, I was thinking
the what did I spell it? T

1143
01:30:01,520 --> 01:30:04,760
U d R t U d o
rs doing a lot of spelling. This

1144
01:30:04,880 --> 01:30:08,439
episode is not working out. Well, go ahead, And then I found

1145
01:30:08,479 --> 01:30:11,560
them on social media and I was
like, okay, yeah, like this

1146
01:30:11,800 --> 01:30:15,560
is basically what I was picturing in
my head. Yeah yeah really thanks,

1147
01:30:15,239 --> 01:30:18,800
But see up and up here.
We're up in New England though you know

1148
01:30:18,920 --> 01:30:24,319
most of us are, and you
can't. There is no place Danny's used

1149
01:30:24,359 --> 01:30:28,840
to have biscuits and gravy. Okay, like the kind of general lives biscuitson

1150
01:30:29,000 --> 01:30:31,359
gravy, yeah, but not that
kind of homemade and stuff, and you

1151
01:30:31,439 --> 01:30:34,279
cannot there's no place around him.
Someone told me one place, but it's

1152
01:30:34,359 --> 01:30:42,039
closed. It's cracker barrel. Where's
a cracker barrel around? And no,

1153
01:30:42,199 --> 01:30:44,199
no, but it has to be
kind of homemade, you know what I

1154
01:30:44,279 --> 01:30:47,119
mean, it has to be there's
a cracker barrel. I wasn't really Yeah,

1155
01:30:47,239 --> 01:30:51,760
okay, Farmer's Kitchen had it?
Did they really on the menu?

1156
01:30:51,880 --> 01:30:56,800
It was like he had like the
secret menu. Yeah, yeah for me

1157
01:30:57,000 --> 01:31:02,600
and for a few other regular games. Really can I go? And when

1158
01:31:02,600 --> 01:31:06,600
I lived in New England, they
had a place called Bickford's. Oh yeah,

1159
01:31:08,800 --> 01:31:12,840
so sad. Yeah we still have
one there. We still have one.

1160
01:31:13,039 --> 01:31:15,880
Yeah. And bur Lincoln. Yeah, is it a good place for

1161
01:31:15,000 --> 01:31:17,680
breakfast? So yeah, I go
there. Okay, that's good to know.

1162
01:31:18,560 --> 01:31:21,880
I was sad when they all left
Rhode Island when I went back to

1163
01:31:23,000 --> 01:31:26,680
visit. Where in New England did
you live? I lived in Providence,

1164
01:31:26,960 --> 01:31:30,800
really Providence, Rhode Island. I
was at culinary school there. Did you

1165
01:31:30,880 --> 01:31:34,880
live on Federal Hill? Did you
live near Federal Hill? No? I

1166
01:31:34,960 --> 01:31:38,840
didn't live near Federal Hill, but
you didn't have to live near it because

1167
01:31:39,039 --> 01:31:42,560
it's it's Providence. It's tiny.
Yeah, Like Rhode Island is so small,

1168
01:31:42,720 --> 01:31:45,920
you can like turn around and reach
out of your closet and be in

1169
01:31:45,960 --> 01:31:48,279
Connecticut. Yeah, but they have
a navy base there, and that stuff

1170
01:31:48,279 --> 01:31:53,720
happens to everybody. That's that's why
my aunt and and uncle got married.

1171
01:31:53,760 --> 01:31:57,680
So that's how my Rhode Island aunt
came to West Virginia to live and then

1172
01:31:57,760 --> 01:32:01,239
got the most amazing accent out of
it. That. It's amazing because she

1173
01:32:01,560 --> 01:32:05,279
she had the Rhode Island the accident
way you talk like that, he's you

1174
01:32:05,359 --> 01:32:10,239
know, there's a grocery store called
Shaws, And she'd say shore was like

1175
01:32:10,399 --> 01:32:14,760
that, you know, and husband's
name was June Woode. Yeah, she

1176
01:32:14,840 --> 01:32:17,159
didn't say that, but then she
was there for like fifty years and she

1177
01:32:17,279 --> 01:32:21,119
got this West Virginia drawl at the
end. Wow, And it was the

1178
01:32:21,199 --> 01:32:27,920
most amazing voice. And I can't
really do it right unless I've been around

1179
01:32:27,960 --> 01:32:30,640
her enough for it to catch.
Yeah, she had the most amazing It's

1180
01:32:30,680 --> 01:32:34,680
like that breed and two dies together
a canoodle to right. Yeah, okay,

1181
01:32:34,760 --> 01:32:38,479
have a different thing. Yeah,
well interesting, Okay, I should

1182
01:32:38,520 --> 01:32:41,560
just put in that Federal Hill is
not to have mafia people living there.

1183
01:32:42,439 --> 01:32:45,520
Ray Patriots a joke, right,
okay? All right, So anyway,

1184
01:32:45,600 --> 01:32:48,479
so your podcast, And you do
this with your daughter, Barbara, right,

1185
01:32:48,520 --> 01:32:51,960
your podcast six Degrees of Kill my
thirty three year old daughter. Oh

1186
01:32:53,239 --> 01:32:59,319
okay, and where is she tonight? She's she is probably fishing. Um.

1187
01:33:00,039 --> 01:33:04,239
She just graduated with her bachelor's degree
in history and she's going into grad

1188
01:33:04,319 --> 01:33:09,560
school for library science. Wow.
Good for her. Yeah, yeah,

1189
01:33:09,880 --> 01:33:13,960
she didn't know that library science was
going to require a shotgun. But if

1190
01:33:14,039 --> 01:33:19,760
she goes to work in Florida,
it probably won't. But she's happy with

1191
01:33:19,880 --> 01:33:23,239
that. She grew up a redneck, so she you know, she's like,

1192
01:33:23,439 --> 01:33:27,640
I will, I will protect the
books. Good idea. Yes,

1193
01:33:28,920 --> 01:33:30,840
got to protect these books. I
saw. Yeah, I can't say.

1194
01:33:30,960 --> 01:33:34,680
Maybe we said this is the potty
someone said, you know, until some

1195
01:33:34,960 --> 01:33:41,079
transvestike walks into a library and kills
eight kids by beating them with a copy

1196
01:33:41,199 --> 01:33:46,279
of To Kill a mocking Bird,
Right until a drag queen goes in.

1197
01:33:46,479 --> 01:33:50,880
Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly
the problem. She said it in one

1198
01:33:51,000 --> 01:33:55,760
sentence, Swan. So let me
just say the sentence. Are you do

1199
01:33:55,800 --> 01:33:59,720
you guys know the sentence? I
don't know it perfectly, Raven, do

1200
01:33:59,760 --> 01:34:02,920
you know? Yeah? Here,
let's yeah, this will be the phrase.

1201
01:34:06,520 --> 01:34:11,039
Let me literally look this up on
Instagram right now. She's a funny

1202
01:34:11,079 --> 01:34:14,359
you know, I've seen her.
You know I've seen her comedy bidsn't she's

1203
01:34:14,399 --> 01:34:17,000
funny. She used to be on
Crib Your Enthusiasm a lot, and she's

1204
01:34:17,039 --> 01:34:21,399
a funny comedian. But boy,
this this the days. These days she

1205
01:34:21,520 --> 01:34:24,920
puts a doll on the camps.
I man have to cut this up.

1206
01:34:26,840 --> 01:34:30,279
We might, but that's okay.
Yeah, I'm going back into my archive

1207
01:34:30,439 --> 01:34:35,840
because apparently I post so much on
Instagram, which is funny because I really

1208
01:34:35,960 --> 01:34:41,119
don't. But oh, I was
posting about yellow Jackets. I'm sorry.

1209
01:34:41,159 --> 01:34:47,119
I'm trying to I'm trying to have
a dance around what I'm doing here listening

1210
01:34:47,119 --> 01:34:51,079
to backclone these militraction I'll showing here
on the Distant Thunder Radio Network. Sorry,

1211
01:34:51,600 --> 01:34:55,680
yellow Jackets got me messed up.
The other night. I have a

1212
01:34:55,800 --> 01:35:00,000
question for Barbara Place. Sure,
yeah, but tell us a little bit

1213
01:35:00,039 --> 01:35:03,560
about the art work you do for
all your shows, which is quite the

1214
01:35:03,640 --> 01:35:08,479
spectacular, I would say. I
you know, I started out with doing

1215
01:35:08,520 --> 01:35:14,600
a lot of mixed media collages um
and a lot of uh you know,

1216
01:35:15,399 --> 01:35:25,399
uh, acrylic art, but I
also do watercolors and I basically take what

1217
01:35:25,800 --> 01:35:30,600
the episodes about and then try to
put it into visual form. But now

1218
01:35:30,680 --> 01:35:34,359
now I also do digital art,
so I just have a lot of fun

1219
01:35:34,479 --> 01:35:38,920
with it. A point and trained
as anonyms? Stood you know that means

1220
01:35:38,960 --> 01:35:43,000
that I have stacks and stacks of
paintings. But did you did you train

1221
01:35:43,079 --> 01:35:45,159
as anonymous? Did you go to
school? What did you want? Now?

1222
01:35:45,359 --> 01:35:49,319
Yeah? No, I'm self taught
with art. I have a degree

1223
01:35:49,399 --> 01:35:56,439
in writing and a degree in culinary
arts. Oh wow, calorinary Oh okay,

1224
01:35:56,760 --> 01:36:00,880
writing, forget about it. But
I like the culinary stuff. Raven,

1225
01:36:00,960 --> 01:36:04,079
you have the quote here we go
and then I have a question for

1226
01:36:04,159 --> 01:36:08,520
Barbara. Um. But yeah,
the quote is Untila drag Queen walks into

1227
01:36:08,560 --> 01:36:12,159
a school and beats eight kids to
death with a copy of To Kill a

1228
01:36:12,279 --> 01:36:17,600
Mockingbird. I think we're focusing on
the wrong shit legend. H Yeah,

1229
01:36:17,880 --> 01:36:20,600
yeah, she threw she threw the
mic down. Yeah, that's great,

1230
01:36:20,680 --> 01:36:24,680
she threw it down after that.
So Barbara, if so, you have

1231
01:36:24,800 --> 01:36:28,119
a degree in culinary yachts, which
is cook to do. So if you

1232
01:36:28,279 --> 01:36:32,960
had what what meal would you make? Al And don't say, like you

1233
01:36:33,079 --> 01:36:38,520
know, Asha Jaggs over, you
know what would something that people would eat.

1234
01:36:39,680 --> 01:36:43,399
What would I make that people would
eat? Like? Make us?

1235
01:36:44,279 --> 01:36:45,920
Oh? That I would make you
guys. I do a lot of really

1236
01:36:45,960 --> 01:36:48,920
good curry. And even if people
think they don't like curry, they do.

1237
01:36:53,279 --> 01:36:58,039
It's so good. I used to
cook for a family from Pakistan and

1238
01:36:58,159 --> 01:37:03,039
Bangladesh, so I know my curry
and uh, it's so much fun to

1239
01:37:03,279 --> 01:37:06,600
introduce it to people, especially the
kinds of things that you're not going to

1240
01:37:06,640 --> 01:37:10,359
get in the restaurants in America.
Yeah, but that's going to taste like

1241
01:37:10,399 --> 01:37:14,560
dirt. I mean, let's be
real about it. It is so good

1242
01:37:15,439 --> 01:37:20,199
unless they make it completely wrong,
which is possible. Man, if you

1243
01:37:20,279 --> 01:37:25,079
dump curry, powder and something,
it's not gonna okay, yeah, it's

1244
01:37:25,119 --> 01:37:27,000
been in your cat. Would be
the second man, What would you make

1245
01:37:27,079 --> 01:37:31,159
us for lunch? What would I
make you for lunch? Oh? Let's

1246
01:37:31,239 --> 01:37:42,680
see, probably something easy and and
and light, uh and corn bread and

1247
01:37:42,760 --> 01:37:47,079
fried potatoes with onions and mushrooms.
You know that was my favorite. Ramps

1248
01:37:47,399 --> 01:37:51,800
with ramps in it. I'll go
all West Virginia old school and put ramps

1249
01:37:51,840 --> 01:37:55,880
in it. Have you ever got
to a dunkin Donnage? Oh? For

1250
01:37:56,399 --> 01:37:59,680
yeah, it's all over the place, all right, So tell what's your

1251
01:37:59,720 --> 01:38:02,000
opinion Duncan Donuts because we talk about
them all the time on the shop.

1252
01:38:02,600 --> 01:38:08,199
They're okay, I mean they're not
They're not my favorite. Now what the

1253
01:38:08,319 --> 01:38:12,159
favorite doesn't exist in the United States
anymore, which was mister Donut, and

1254
01:38:12,319 --> 01:38:15,439
now they're just yeah, they were
all over China and Japan, right yeah,

1255
01:38:15,840 --> 01:38:18,560
yeah, yeah, and they moved. But but that's too far for

1256
01:38:18,680 --> 01:38:21,600
me to go to get a damn
donut, so I don't. But Duncan

1257
01:38:21,680 --> 01:38:25,600
Donuts has changed over the years.
They used to have great coffee, they'd

1258
01:38:25,640 --> 01:38:29,399
have tons of donuts that people buy, and now they have shitty coffee and

1259
01:38:29,560 --> 01:38:32,000
they have like six favorite you know, favorite donuts a day. And they

1260
01:38:32,039 --> 01:38:35,239
don't even like the plane doughnut or
the chock you know, it's stupid.

1261
01:38:35,359 --> 01:38:39,560
Oh that sucks. They want to
cool. They want to be like being

1262
01:38:39,600 --> 01:38:42,920
bounds and give people breakfast in the
morning, you know, fast breakfast they

1263
01:38:42,960 --> 01:38:45,640
do. And these drinks that have
like you know, all they are a

1264
01:38:45,760 --> 01:38:56,039
caffeine like insane. I wish it
was just a donuts shop when they drinks

1265
01:38:56,039 --> 01:38:59,800
are definitely out of control. Because
I will say I'm not a fan ofm

1266
01:38:59,840 --> 01:39:04,479
it Donald's, but their coffee is
really good. Dunks coffee has been slipping.

1267
01:39:05,000 --> 01:39:09,960
I thought Dunk coffee taste burned to
me. We were down in PA

1268
01:39:10,119 --> 01:39:14,399
the other day and I made it
my point to stop at Crispy Cream because

1269
01:39:14,439 --> 01:39:18,439
I really like theirs a beautiful,
so good, and I I, you

1270
01:39:18,520 --> 01:39:20,640
know, I was driving, so
I was like, I really need a

1271
01:39:20,680 --> 01:39:25,399
coffee. So I just got like
a nice coffee, just got a black

1272
01:39:25,960 --> 01:39:30,600
and uh got mister raven a coffee. Their their coffee is not good at

1273
01:39:30,680 --> 01:39:36,079
all. It is really bad.
I'm like, I could have made better

1274
01:39:36,119 --> 01:39:41,119
coffee at my curing. But I
will say the donuts yeah good. Yeah,

1275
01:39:42,640 --> 01:39:45,000
yes, Switch you have a question. I had two questions for Barbara.

1276
01:39:45,119 --> 01:39:48,760
This might take us off the exit
ramp back on, but you know,

1277
01:39:49,560 --> 01:39:54,039
I wonder what what is? Do
you have a favorite John Keeled book

1278
01:39:54,479 --> 01:39:58,560
and you have a favorite non John
Keeled book. I know you're a voracious

1279
01:39:58,600 --> 01:40:01,800
reader. We've we've had many discussions
on your show about all kinds of books.

1280
01:40:02,199 --> 01:40:06,319
Can you pick maybe maybe you can't
pick the favorite, but maybe one

1281
01:40:06,359 --> 01:40:13,359
of the favorites. Okay, so
my favorite John Keel by far is actually

1282
01:40:13,439 --> 01:40:16,000
two books. But they were supposed
to be one book, and it's The

1283
01:40:16,119 --> 01:40:21,479
Mothman Prophecies and the Eighth Tower.
The Eighth Tower is everything that the editor

1284
01:40:21,560 --> 01:40:25,680
said, Oh my god, take
that out of the book because it messes

1285
01:40:25,760 --> 01:40:30,880
up the storyline. So it's all
of the backstory and his theories about what

1286
01:40:32,720 --> 01:40:43,520
paranormal slash UFO slash aliens is actually
all about. So you read one and

1287
01:40:43,600 --> 01:40:45,720
then you read the other. But
in truth, they actually were supposed to

1288
01:40:45,760 --> 01:40:51,159
be one large book, and that's
my favorite, John Keel, what's the

1289
01:40:51,239 --> 01:40:56,600
tackle again? Okay, so the
first one's Mothman Prophecies and the second one

1290
01:40:56,800 --> 01:41:00,720
is the Eighth Tower. Yeah,
Mothman Prophecies is a really good It just

1291
01:41:00,800 --> 01:41:02,800
happens to be the first paranormal book
I happen to read. But it's the

1292
01:41:03,399 --> 01:41:06,640
as you said before, it's it's
the if you're going to read your first

1293
01:41:06,680 --> 01:41:10,039
paranormal book, that's the one to
do it. Because he's a good right,

1294
01:41:10,039 --> 01:41:13,800
a good journalists. One one has
his hand up. So you didn't

1295
01:41:13,800 --> 01:41:17,560
answer my other questions, John keelbook, Oh, non John keelbook. Okay,

1296
01:41:18,279 --> 01:41:24,560
I'm gonna split it into two.
Okay, my old non John keelbook

1297
01:41:24,600 --> 01:41:29,000
that is My favorite is Jacques Valat's
Passport to Magonia. Yes, it's a

1298
01:41:29,119 --> 01:41:38,000
bloody master work. Um, it
really is. Where the idea of uh

1299
01:41:39,319 --> 01:41:45,960
extraterrestrials and the fay folk and the
creatures of folklore that are fay like like

1300
01:41:45,159 --> 01:41:50,640
gin and uh you know, uh
demons and angels, all of that.

1301
01:41:50,960 --> 01:41:56,000
That's where it came from, and
it was expanded on. Keel said,

1302
01:41:56,239 --> 01:41:58,760
you know, they act a lot
like fairies, but he didn't go into

1303
01:41:58,880 --> 01:42:02,479
all of the old folk Laura and
dig around like Valet did and make those

1304
01:42:02,560 --> 01:42:09,199
connections explicit. And then the new
one would have to be Ecology of Souls

1305
01:42:09,319 --> 01:42:14,399
by Josh Kutchin. Now I'm biased
because I edited the book for him,

1306
01:42:14,720 --> 01:42:20,319
and it's two books. Again,
it's two volumes. But he takes the

1307
01:42:20,520 --> 01:42:28,000
idea of the paranormal and death and
does for it what Valet did for fairies

1308
01:42:28,600 --> 01:42:34,760
and UFOs. So he gets all
of those connections and throws them together and

1309
01:42:35,119 --> 01:42:39,600
makes it readable. All three of
them are really good writers. Bab I

1310
01:42:39,680 --> 01:42:42,680
thought you were going to say War
of Dragons by mcmaloney would be the second

1311
01:42:42,720 --> 01:42:49,760
book, but that's okay, Yeah, yeah, Episode one twelve contacting fairies

1312
01:42:49,760 --> 01:42:56,159
with Octavian graves. Yeah, I'd
like to hear that show. The artwork

1313
01:42:56,319 --> 01:43:00,279
is amazing. Do you ever thought
of having a gallery of your art work,

1314
01:43:00,239 --> 01:43:04,520
you know, like online? Yeah
one, but in a in a

1315
01:43:04,640 --> 01:43:11,479
studio someplace. And I've done gallery
shows. I've done public shows here at

1316
01:43:11,520 --> 01:43:16,039
the library. I've sold several paintings. Um. I've been in group shows

1317
01:43:16,119 --> 01:43:23,399
and single shows. Um. I
think I am going to start uh selling

1318
01:43:23,520 --> 01:43:27,359
prints though. I think I've figured
out where I want to have them printed

1319
01:43:27,439 --> 01:43:31,319
and how I'll have them shifted.
So let me direct you to the Alman

1320
01:43:31,399 --> 01:43:36,359
Brothers album Eat a Peach if you
open the gatefold. I don't know if

1321
01:43:36,359 --> 01:43:40,960
I can do this. Let's see
if I can do this. The ya

1322
01:43:41,960 --> 01:43:45,079
my god, he is the album
ready to go there? Okay, oh

1323
01:43:45,199 --> 01:43:48,720
yeah, okay, yep, that's
your style. So we think about he's

1324
01:43:48,760 --> 01:43:53,640
showing a yea inside for you the
radio listeners. He's showing a inside of

1325
01:43:53,680 --> 01:43:58,640
an Alman Brothers own. It looks
like crazy hippie stuff to me. Oh

1326
01:43:58,760 --> 01:44:02,279
yeah, an instagram. You can
see it. It's gorgeous. I love

1327
01:44:02,319 --> 01:44:05,720
it. Yeah. Nice. We
have two minutes to go, so Boba,

1328
01:44:05,760 --> 01:44:10,239
I'm going to ask you one question. Okay, do you think Kile

1329
01:44:10,359 --> 01:44:16,119
believed everything? He wrote? Keil, no, real No. His maxim

1330
01:44:16,359 --> 01:44:23,680
was belief is the enemy. And
the reason he said that was because the

1331
01:44:24,880 --> 01:44:28,840
paranormal phenomena, once you start chasing
it around and really thinking about it and

1332
01:44:28,960 --> 01:44:34,560
really investigating it, we'll start chasing
you around and investigating you and listening to

1333
01:44:34,760 --> 01:44:40,079
you, and it makes you paranoid
and it makes you a little bit crazy.

1334
01:44:40,159 --> 01:44:42,800
And I can say this from my
own experience, this is true.

1335
01:44:44,199 --> 01:44:46,199
But what he found was is if
he came up with a new theory and

1336
01:44:46,359 --> 01:44:53,479
didn't tell anyone about it, the
phenomena would start proving that theory to be

1337
01:44:53,800 --> 01:45:00,520
correct by influencing other people, and
they would come to him with worries that

1338
01:45:00,119 --> 01:45:04,159
fit his narrative. Yes, So
then he'd say, okay, fine,

1339
01:45:04,560 --> 01:45:10,000
I'm not gonna make up new you
know theories. But you can't walk around

1340
01:45:10,079 --> 01:45:14,079
and not make up new theories if
you're dealing with things that have no logical,

1341
01:45:14,840 --> 01:45:21,159
sensible reason. This stuff doesn't make
sense from a materialist Western standpoint.

1342
01:45:23,279 --> 01:45:28,560
So he did not believe in belief. He thought belief was a bad idea,

1343
01:45:29,399 --> 01:45:36,319
and so he just tried to take
the facts and then not pin it

1344
01:45:36,479 --> 01:45:44,319
into one theory because it would just
prove it and disprove it to him over

1345
01:45:44,439 --> 01:45:47,840
and over again. So I have
two rings that I wear. They're they're

1346
01:45:47,880 --> 01:45:51,000
both engraved, and the one that
I wear on the top of my finger

1347
01:45:51,119 --> 01:45:57,199
says the truth is out there,
and no, it says I want to

1348
01:45:57,279 --> 01:45:59,880
believe, and then on the inside
it says the truth is out there.

1349
01:46:00,159 --> 01:46:02,880
And then the next one does belief
is the enemy. So's I want to

1350
01:46:02,960 --> 01:46:06,239
believe and belief is the enemy?
Well, I can tell you by personal

1351
01:46:06,279 --> 01:46:11,199
experience, by belief in the bust
and Celtics whether the enemy. Yeah,

1352
01:46:12,840 --> 01:46:15,239
leave them laughing, Bobo, we
want to thank you. I'm sorry,

1353
01:46:15,239 --> 01:46:18,800
go ahead, No, I just
had a good, good summation. Yes,

1354
01:46:18,920 --> 01:46:23,720
what Barbara just said, Bobo.
Thanks thanks for joining us. Your

1355
01:46:23,800 --> 01:46:29,840
podcast Six Degrees of John Kill sounds
really fascinating and uh and it can be

1356
01:46:29,920 --> 01:46:33,279
found everywhere, I'm assuming, yeah, pretty much. And you're an artist

1357
01:46:33,359 --> 01:46:38,079
as well and a culinary expert,
which is interesting. So mac and cheese?

1358
01:46:38,199 --> 01:46:40,840
Yes? And no? Would you
would you make mac and cheese?

1359
01:46:41,800 --> 01:46:45,199
Oh? Yeah, yeah, right, a lot of from scratch? Yeah,

1360
01:46:45,239 --> 01:46:49,239
yeah, if you do it from
scratch, it's really good, Boba.

1361
01:46:49,279 --> 01:46:51,840
Thanks for joining us. We really
appreciate it. Come back soon sometime.

1362
01:46:51,920 --> 01:46:56,359
Okay, all right, take care. One more thing I must must

1363
01:46:56,399 --> 01:46:59,239
say. Go ahead, you go
back in her archives. You will hear

1364
01:46:59,319 --> 01:47:02,039
my golden owns a couple of times, and people back at my archives you

1365
01:47:02,079 --> 01:47:11,880
will hear her golden tones at least
once the whole gang. Okay, thank

1366
01:47:11,920 --> 01:47:15,840
you, switching a good cross pollination
right there. Yeah, it's great to

1367
01:47:15,880 --> 01:47:19,960
be here. Thanks. I'm gonna
say, yeah, just factors I do

1368
01:47:20,119 --> 01:47:25,760
too, high, Uncle Al,
you're ready to go there? Yeah?

1369
01:47:25,800 --> 01:47:32,119
Yeah, okay, here we go, un probably uh French fries and just

1370
01:47:32,520 --> 01:47:35,239
the fries. Yeah, yeah,
just the fries. Tokay, go to

1371
01:47:35,279 --> 01:47:40,239
my usual large cheeseburger medium. I'd
love to, but I couldn't go to

1372
01:47:40,279 --> 01:47:43,800
sleep. I wouldn't be bitter go
sleep at three days of a eight shipping

1373
01:47:43,800 --> 01:47:47,159
across the ocean. Anyway, So
thank you all for joining us tonight.

1374
01:47:47,199 --> 01:47:54,319
We appreciate it anytime. Thank you
at club Club, Thank you club for

1375
01:47:54,479 --> 01:47:59,319
joining us. Thank you I've enjoyed
tonight. Forgetting the woman of some color

1376
01:47:59,399 --> 01:48:02,680
in your face. Yeah from your
son and your back. Yeah yeah,

1377
01:48:02,720 --> 01:48:08,119
yeah, we're thinking of putting a
dome over that. Yeah, anyway,

1378
01:48:08,439 --> 01:48:12,680
thank you, thank you Switch.
This is your big night, John Kill

1379
01:48:12,800 --> 01:48:15,039
night. You're Obi Wane. That's
right. I'm beside myself. So it

1380
01:48:15,119 --> 01:48:18,159
was a great call right now.
Well, okay, thank you Switch for

1381
01:48:18,239 --> 01:48:21,920
joining us. Appreciate it. One
one. Thank you for joining us.

1382
01:48:23,359 --> 01:48:26,760
You're welcome for us to poddle my
pleasure. Raven, thank you for joining

1383
01:48:26,880 --> 01:48:30,560
us, Raven, thank you so
much. Great. Will you be around

1384
01:48:30,600 --> 01:48:35,720
tomorrow so I can message you?
Yeah, and once again, thank you

1385
01:48:35,880 --> 01:48:42,880
Bob Rich for joining us. Six
degrees of drunk kill and yeah, okay,

1386
01:48:43,079 --> 01:48:45,760
okay, yeah, I'll take it
with me. Yeah, let's figuring

1387
01:48:45,800 --> 01:48:48,479
out how to get rid of the
big hands um. And I just want

1388
01:48:48,520 --> 01:48:53,319
to say homes for out troops.
Homes out Troops an organization that builds homes

1389
01:48:53,399 --> 01:48:58,119
for veterans in post nine eleven combat. That is the Iraqi Water and also

1390
01:48:58,279 --> 01:49:00,920
also in Afghanistan. And these are
people who came home missing a limb,

1391
01:49:01,319 --> 01:49:05,880
having some kind of really significant injury. And what homestrut Troops does is bill

1392
01:49:06,000 --> 01:49:10,039
holmes that are adapted to them so
that, in other words, not a

1393
01:49:10,079 --> 01:49:14,800
lot of stairs, low counter space, things like that wider doorways just so

1394
01:49:14,960 --> 01:49:17,079
they can live a hate to say
this, but like a more normal life.

1395
01:49:17,800 --> 01:49:23,840
And then when the house is completed, Homestrut Troops rips up the mortgage,

1396
01:49:23,880 --> 01:49:26,319
gives them the keys. That's their
house of free. They can go

1397
01:49:26,399 --> 01:49:30,199
out and in the workforce and they
don't have to worry about you know,

1398
01:49:30,239 --> 01:49:33,159
amy changing over their heads. So
Homestrut Troops please google them. Ninety cents

1399
01:49:33,239 --> 01:49:36,640
on your charity dollar goes right to
our veterans. We went to Lois and

1400
01:49:36,720 --> 01:49:41,199
I went to an event a few
weeks ago, Done and Massa Poyet,

1401
01:49:41,600 --> 01:49:45,800
Massachusetts done Navicate. It was beautiful. It was just really really patriotic.

1402
01:49:45,560 --> 01:49:51,520
And they gave a house to a
woman who a thir three year old army

1403
01:49:51,640 --> 01:49:57,359
warrant officer whose legs had to be
amputated after two tours in Afghanistan. And

1404
01:49:57,439 --> 01:50:00,439
this is what they do. They've
built about three hundred and fifty the houses.

1405
01:50:00,479 --> 01:50:03,239
They're really beautiful houses. But the
trouble is is that, um,

1406
01:50:04,079 --> 01:50:08,319
they have a thousand people on the
waiting list. So please go to homestret

1407
01:50:08,399 --> 01:50:12,920
Troops Google and see what they're about. Great bunch of people, and that's

1408
01:50:13,000 --> 01:50:16,600
it. I think Winnie right.
Yeah, okay, so this is mad,

1409
01:50:16,720 --> 01:50:21,239
but I'm the train into the station. We're Yeah, I put that

1410
01:50:21,359 --> 01:50:26,359
up there. This is a sorry
bober. This is what we have to

1411
01:50:26,439 --> 01:50:30,079
go through. What's that naked picture
up there? No, we want a

1412
01:50:30,159 --> 01:50:35,960
train crash twitching? I know I'm
looking for that. Wow, maybe we

1413
01:50:36,039 --> 01:50:42,359
don't have to put the picture up
Barbara. Your artwork is amazing. I've

1414
01:50:42,399 --> 01:50:49,039
been looking at fascinated by. Have
you ever thought of doing doing some artwork

1415
01:50:49,079 --> 01:50:55,279
for album covers? Oh? Wow, I've hads of that. I don't

1416
01:50:55,359 --> 01:51:00,520
know how one gets into that gig, but yeah, with that sent yeah,

1417
01:51:00,760 --> 01:51:04,159
yes, if you somehow we'll get
in touch with each other, because

1418
01:51:04,159 --> 01:51:08,560
I know people in that business.
A club. Did I say good night

1419
01:51:08,600 --> 01:51:11,119
to you? I can't remember back
then I did, But you're gonna always

1420
01:51:11,119 --> 01:51:13,279
say good night a good nightclub?
Do you have any doughnuts that you have

1421
01:51:13,359 --> 01:51:17,560
done? Good? It's always good
you have a nightclub ninety nine? All

1422
01:51:17,640 --> 01:51:24,079
rights or whatever you had? He
never says good night to me twice?

1423
01:51:24,840 --> 01:51:29,199
No, once is enough for you? Wow? Okay, on that note

1424
01:51:29,399 --> 01:51:32,600
fresh, this is Mac for the
entire gang saying the Harris Next time,

1425
01:51:32,720 --> 01:51:42,680
be safely, happy and bye bye, and now please stay tuned for a

1426
01:51:42,760 --> 01:52:14,880
bonus segment of Nec Maloney's Military X
Files show. It's been so long since

1427
01:52:14,920 --> 01:52:27,560
I've seen her face. I pray
she's to in fine. I still came

1428
01:52:29,279 --> 01:52:36,039
our sad last day. How it
hurt so bad to see her cry.

1429
01:52:39,840 --> 01:52:50,520
I didn't want to say good bye? Send her my love memories remains,

1430
01:52:54,079 --> 01:53:42,760
Send her my b roses never came
s my same o world, same o

1431
01:53:43,399 --> 01:53:58,119
wounds lost in the sky gain She
needed so much more than I could give.

1432
01:53:59,640 --> 01:54:09,640
We knew that love can laugh great. A broken heartskin always me.

1433
01:54:34,720 --> 01:54:44,560
How it hurt so bad to see
her crime. I didn't want to say

1434
01:54:44,800 --> 01:55:00,359
good bye. Send her my love
remember dreammain. Send her my love rules

1435
01:55:00,520 --> 01:56:39,680
is number. Send us my rain, rain on my faith. It hasn't

1436
01:56:39,720 --> 01:56:48,399
stopped raining for days. My world
is a fun Slowly I become one with

1437
01:56:48,600 --> 01:56:57,000
the money. But if I can't
still at the body in my mind by

1438
01:56:57,159 --> 01:57:08,920
the crashing way out that I cannot
fall in me, let me up when

1439
01:57:09,039 --> 01:57:16,319
I'm falling, Let me up when
we get time to live here meet you

1440
01:57:16,560 --> 01:57:38,039
to let Yeah, he didn't drown
down for my soul smashing in the ocean.

1441
01:57:38,359 --> 01:57:45,720
I'm losing control, dark sky all
around me. I can't give my

1442
01:57:45,880 --> 01:57:51,479
feet touching the ground. But if
I can't slave am aunt the party in

1443
01:57:51,680 --> 01:58:09,479
my mind and by the crashing when
l behind that all I don't him,

1444
01:58:13,079 --> 01:58:56,680
with him in my mind, be
up, so I can all with im

1445
01:58:56,960 --> 01:59:16,960
allingdim begnn dine, helping round and
une