WEBVTT 1 00:00:01.760 --> 00:00:05.919 Hey, everybody, aj Benzi here with Famous a Bitch. This is your 2 00:00:06.000 --> 00:00:12.400 free show should land on June eleventh, twenty twenty three. I promise you 3 00:00:12.400 --> 00:00:17.719 guys the second free show before the weekends through and I'm delivering. I know 4 00:00:17.760 --> 00:00:21.359 I said I'm going with one free show for now on, but my name 5 00:00:21.399 --> 00:00:27.000 has been bandied about quite a bit and many many different newspapers and websites and 6 00:00:27.039 --> 00:00:30.160 podcasts, and I figured, you know what, let me strike while the 7 00:00:30.320 --> 00:00:35.280 iron is hot. Don't mind the voice. I'm developing some kind of chest 8 00:00:35.359 --> 00:00:40.600 cold. I feel like I've been a human experiment, a human guinea pig. 9 00:00:42.000 --> 00:00:43.960 Yeah. I don't want to get in trouble here. I don't give 10 00:00:43.960 --> 00:00:47.719 a fuck. I've said it before. I don't trust what the government put 11 00:00:47.719 --> 00:00:51.039 on those shots, the vaccines and the boosters. I just don't. I 12 00:00:51.119 --> 00:00:55.840 had my own specific reason for getting the vaccine for myself. I tend to 13 00:00:55.840 --> 00:00:59.359 develop pneumonia. I don't even know why. I never smoked in my life, 14 00:00:59.399 --> 00:01:03.159 but had surgery on my left lung about six years ago. Maybe I 15 00:01:03.200 --> 00:01:10.840 can't remember a year, but terrible had to take my lung out. A 16 00:01:10.959 --> 00:01:15.239 rib cage had deflated, pull it out, scrape all the gunk off it 17 00:01:15.439 --> 00:01:19.879 and then put it back in and inflated. But before that they tried to 18 00:01:19.879 --> 00:01:26.280 procedure went from my back. They couldn't get what they wanted in the lung 19 00:01:26.359 --> 00:01:29.840 and terms of a biopsy, so they tried that, they tried something else, 20 00:01:29.879 --> 00:01:34.239 they tried meds. Nothing was working. I'm suffering. I ended up 21 00:01:34.280 --> 00:01:40.239 spending thirty days in the hospital and then came the operation and it went well, 22 00:01:41.680 --> 00:01:45.599 so I was released home. But in the first time I got COVID, 23 00:01:45.640 --> 00:01:51.000 it turned into COVID pneumonia. The first one was pretty rough. The 24 00:01:51.120 --> 00:01:55.760 COVID pneumonia was awful. Awful. I never knew how much pneumonia hurt. 25 00:01:56.719 --> 00:02:01.400 But you know, that's that's why I got the shot. Not to mention, 26 00:02:01.480 --> 00:02:06.760 I kept flying to Illinois to see my little nieces and seeing my sister 27 00:02:06.840 --> 00:02:09.719 and her husband there in their seventies. My nieces were both two and under 28 00:02:09.759 --> 00:02:13.400 at that point, and I just felt, you know what, you'd feel 29 00:02:13.439 --> 00:02:17.280 awful if you took this dread illness back to Chicago. So anyway, that's 30 00:02:17.319 --> 00:02:21.439 my reason, but I don't trust it. I wish I didn't do it, 31 00:02:23.240 --> 00:02:27.199 because I do feel different ever since that stuff was put into my body. 32 00:02:27.280 --> 00:02:30.159 So I'm not going further with any of the boosters, that's for sure. 33 00:02:30.400 --> 00:02:32.560 And then yesterday I find out that the shot that I did get, 34 00:02:32.599 --> 00:02:37.439 the Johnson and Johnson, which was a one shot deal, has now been 35 00:02:37.479 --> 00:02:42.039 taken off the market. Wonderful one of them. If it was such a 36 00:02:42.080 --> 00:02:45.159 great drug, why is it being taken off the market? What? What? 37 00:02:45.560 --> 00:02:50.639 What's that about. We're gonna be long gone, many of us before 38 00:02:50.639 --> 00:02:54.159 we find out just how much bullshit we were fed. I think the files 39 00:02:54.159 --> 00:02:59.240 on COVID A closed for the next seventy five years or some shit. So 40 00:02:59.400 --> 00:03:01.879 one of youngsters out there who aren't listening to this show, you're too young, 41 00:03:02.080 --> 00:03:07.000 you might find out, but most, if not all, of us 42 00:03:07.080 --> 00:03:09.240 who are listening right now will never know. But then again, we do 43 00:03:09.360 --> 00:03:15.840 know. We feel it in our guts, all right, That's that. 44 00:03:15.439 --> 00:03:21.560 Anyhow, excuse my throat clearing here and there, because I am stuffed up 45 00:03:21.560 --> 00:03:23.560 in the chest and I just have to get through this with some over the 46 00:03:23.680 --> 00:03:29.240 counter junk. But looking through the papers the other day, I still say 47 00:03:29.280 --> 00:03:30.680 papers, you know what I mean? Looking through the Internet, and I 48 00:03:30.719 --> 00:03:36.240 swear to God, I've never saw a time when so many women want to 49 00:03:36.280 --> 00:03:40.919 make their private life public. It's crazy. Nobody can keep their mouth shut. 50 00:03:44.000 --> 00:03:50.159 The other day, Elliott Page former formerly Ellen Page, admitting that she 51 00:03:50.520 --> 00:03:55.560 and her Juno co star Olivia Thurby had sex almost every day while they filmed 52 00:03:55.560 --> 00:04:02.199 the movie. That the movie Juno, lots of scissoring going on. Oh 53 00:04:02.280 --> 00:04:06.879 you know, look, maybe if she knew she wanted to be a man 54 00:04:06.960 --> 00:04:10.599 even back then, maybe she brought the strap out. I don't know, 55 00:04:10.840 --> 00:04:14.919 well, brought out the strap on? Could be. I don't want to 56 00:04:14.919 --> 00:04:17.839 picture it, but it certainly could be. I don't call Elliott and he 57 00:04:18.079 --> 00:04:23.199 I never will. To me, Elliot Page is always Ellen, and he's 58 00:04:23.199 --> 00:04:26.480 a she. That's it. I'm never gonna go for that. I don't 59 00:04:26.480 --> 00:04:30.959 care what kind of excuse or reasoning or rationale anybody gives me. I don't 60 00:04:30.959 --> 00:04:35.879 know if you feel the same way, but I just don't like. I 61 00:04:36.000 --> 00:04:42.639 just find it very odd and not even compelling. I found it extremely odd 62 00:04:43.639 --> 00:04:49.480 that there are so many people attached to Hollywood that either want transgender surgery, 63 00:04:49.759 --> 00:04:55.360 are identifying as a different sex, are proud to be part of this movement. 64 00:04:55.360 --> 00:04:59.319 I just find it too much to bear, and most of the stuff 65 00:04:59.319 --> 00:05:03.120 I read about celebrities. I just don't think this sort of thing is happening 66 00:05:03.199 --> 00:05:09.120 to many regular folks around the country. I don't think too many little boys 67 00:05:09.120 --> 00:05:14.800 and girls in Oklahoma or Nebraska, or Arkansas or West Virginia are going through 68 00:05:14.800 --> 00:05:17.839 this trans movement. I don't see a lot of black kids that are going 69 00:05:17.879 --> 00:05:24.560 through it. I haven't seen any Mexican jet go through it. Always seems 70 00:05:24.560 --> 00:05:28.839 to be white kids. And let's put it this way, white kids with 71 00:05:28.959 --> 00:05:33.160 well off parents most of the time. Because I will always believe, especially 72 00:05:33.160 --> 00:05:40.720 with children being born now, that many parents are pushing this lifestyle or this 73 00:05:40.720 --> 00:05:46.519 this whole gender switch to be talked about to be popular. I don't know 74 00:05:46.560 --> 00:05:49.439 why you do that to your kid. Life is hard enough to go through 75 00:05:49.480 --> 00:05:54.839 it and change your sex. Thankfully, the younger generations seems to be okay 76 00:05:54.839 --> 00:05:58.879 with us. I know my kids are whereas I still see a change and 77 00:05:58.959 --> 00:06:01.439 a kid that used to coach six, seven, eight years ago and I 78 00:06:01.519 --> 00:06:08.480 go, not go. Isn't that Claudio from the soccrate. Well he's Claudia 79 00:06:08.639 --> 00:06:11.959 now, Dad, he's claud Now he's Claudia. Yeah, you're okay with 80 00:06:12.040 --> 00:06:15.920 that? I don't care. Yeah, kids just don't get And maybe that's 81 00:06:15.959 --> 00:06:17.680 the best thing that the transgender group is going to get out of this, 82 00:06:17.720 --> 00:06:23.480 that the younger generation doesn't care, but the older generation is six of them 83 00:06:23.519 --> 00:06:26.959 targeting our children. I'm not going to get into the whole target and has 84 00:06:26.959 --> 00:06:30.680 a bush bullshit. We've done that forever. But I think businesses are starting 85 00:06:30.720 --> 00:06:34.959 to finally realize we gotta slow this push down. I know they want to 86 00:06:35.000 --> 00:06:39.879 do it for social points. How much higher they can get out to social 87 00:06:39.920 --> 00:06:46.120 scale and being seen as woke a woke corporation. How they don't get it 88 00:06:46.199 --> 00:06:53.399 is just beyond me. Speaking of bullshitters. Jenna Jamison, former porn star 89 00:06:53.519 --> 00:06:59.639 Jenna Jamison, is now a married woman. She married her very heavily tattooed 90 00:06:59.639 --> 00:07:04.920 girl friend, Jesse Lawless, in a typical Las Vegas ceremony back at the 91 00:07:05.000 --> 00:07:12.920 end of May. She told People magazine the details about it. She said, 92 00:07:12.959 --> 00:07:16.240 I found the person I truly should have always been with. Come on, 93 00:07:17.040 --> 00:07:20.399 I know poun stars are weird. I dated a couple in my past. 94 00:07:20.439 --> 00:07:25.399 They have a whole different view on sex, and you know, they're 95 00:07:25.439 --> 00:07:30.240 just They're just much more free and they don't keep too many things close. 96 00:07:30.279 --> 00:07:33.120 To the vest. Most women in porn, I would think are by. 97 00:07:33.600 --> 00:07:38.680 I would say, I'm pretty right about that. So they don't see any 98 00:07:38.720 --> 00:07:42.439 big shock when they go from men to women, back to men back to 99 00:07:42.439 --> 00:07:45.519 what. They just kind of travel back and forth like a ping pong ping 100 00:07:45.560 --> 00:07:48.480 pung bull. I don't want to say it's a mental condition. I mean, 101 00:07:48.519 --> 00:07:53.199 I think people can legitimately be bisexual and like both sexes. I just 102 00:07:54.240 --> 00:07:56.240 I feel like, after a while, and you gotta pick one, You're 103 00:07:56.240 --> 00:08:00.079 gonna make a decision, you know, Like Andrew Dice Clay used to say, 104 00:08:00.560 --> 00:08:03.879 what do you wake up in the morning and flip a coin? Heads? 105 00:08:03.959 --> 00:08:09.160 I got hair pie tails, balls across the nose. I think that's 106 00:08:09.160 --> 00:08:11.839 how the joke went. Dice was so way ahead of this stuff. My 107 00:08:13.040 --> 00:08:16.879 God, But would he'd be canceled on the second nowadays if he did one 108 00:08:16.920 --> 00:08:20.439 of those nursery rhymes Jesus Christ, little boy blue. He needed the money. 109 00:08:20.600 --> 00:08:26.959 Oh, I can't do that stuff anymore so. The Las Vegas Records 110 00:08:26.959 --> 00:08:31.279 of Clark County revealed that they got a marriage license the day before their ceremony. 111 00:08:33.120 --> 00:08:37.559 Jamison came out as bi central what seventeen eighteen, nineteen years ago, 112 00:08:37.919 --> 00:08:41.879 and she said she was only romanced by men in the past because she wanted 113 00:08:41.879 --> 00:08:46.799 to have children. She told People Magazine, I try to go over in 114 00:08:46.879 --> 00:08:50.720 my mind why I ever dated a married men. And it's selfish and bad 115 00:08:50.799 --> 00:08:56.720 to say, but I think my driving force worked children. She's got three 116 00:08:56.799 --> 00:09:03.320 kids, and she's now approaching fifty and now she with lawless. But she 117 00:09:03.399 --> 00:09:09.320 says she's finally found herself and she's finally accepting of everything that she feels inside 118 00:09:11.639 --> 00:09:16.879 and just don't shove everything down anymore, or doesn't shove everything down anymore. 119 00:09:16.960 --> 00:09:22.480 Now. Remember she's got fourteen year old twins with the name's a Journey and 120 00:09:22.559 --> 00:09:28.320 Jesse with the x mme a fighter Tito Ortiz. And she has a six 121 00:09:28.399 --> 00:09:35.240 year old daughter, Battel, with her ex Leo Baton Israeli dude. She 122 00:09:35.360 --> 00:09:41.039 was also previously married to Brad Armstrong and Jay Guardina. Oh this chick. 123 00:09:41.159 --> 00:09:45.679 I mean back in the day when she was doing porn, I mean, 124 00:09:45.840 --> 00:09:50.919 there was nobody hotter than Jenna Jamison. She was a rock star, you 125 00:09:50.000 --> 00:09:56.399 know, she just she was killing it. And I forgot the other one's 126 00:09:56.440 --> 00:09:58.480 name that I love too. She's all tattled up now, she got sleeves 127 00:09:58.480 --> 00:10:01.759 on both I figured the name. She hasn't met an easy time of life 128 00:10:01.799 --> 00:10:05.759 in the last ten years or so, but I can't remember. She was 129 00:10:05.840 --> 00:10:09.360 huge, but nobody was bigger than Jenna Jamison back then, no one was. 130 00:10:09.200 --> 00:10:13.320 And I've met her and I used to follow her on Twitter and Instagram 131 00:10:13.360 --> 00:10:18.879 over the years. I watched her life, you know, go on from 132 00:10:18.879 --> 00:10:22.360 one chapter to the next, and we would talk back and forth to each 133 00:10:22.399 --> 00:10:26.600 other. I used to actually stick up for her on Twitter because sometimes most 134 00:10:26.600 --> 00:10:30.919 of the time, whenever Jaman showed up on Twitter saying jama whenever Jenna kept 135 00:10:30.919 --> 00:10:33.919 showing up on Twitter. I can't believe the way men or let's say, 136 00:10:35.320 --> 00:10:39.039 boys would treat her the ship. They would say to her, these are 137 00:10:39.039 --> 00:10:43.279 the same guys that a few years ago were masturbating to her videos, and 138 00:10:43.360 --> 00:10:46.480 now that they have a chance to talk to her and maybe say something nice, 139 00:10:48.639 --> 00:10:50.320 they have to put her down and call her a tramp and say, 140 00:10:50.320 --> 00:10:54.559 oh, sorts of horrible things. I remember when she was studying to switch 141 00:10:54.600 --> 00:11:01.000 over to the Jewish faith and people took her to town on that just every 142 00:11:01.080 --> 00:11:03.000 day. I said, what are you doing online? Just go go, 143 00:11:03.159 --> 00:11:07.759 don't go on Twitter, it's it's it's a snake pit. She goes all, 144 00:11:07.799 --> 00:11:09.519 fuck, am I gonna take it? But I don't think she could 145 00:11:09.600 --> 00:11:15.639 because she developed a drug and alcohol problem. It's like pills and alcohol. 146 00:11:15.679 --> 00:11:18.360 God knows what else she was on, but the pills and alcohol were definitely 147 00:11:18.399 --> 00:11:22.919 bad for her, as they are for most people. So I saw this 148 00:11:22.960 --> 00:11:28.240 whole thing in her life actually happening in real time, and I watched this 149 00:11:28.399 --> 00:11:33.039 lawless chick kind of. She had her own Instagram channel, still does a 150 00:11:33.039 --> 00:11:37.840 lot of followers, and she does crazy shit on her Instagram channel, Instagram 151 00:11:37.840 --> 00:11:41.120 reels, Instagram stories. A lot of it is her acting kind of masculine, 152 00:11:41.919 --> 00:11:45.960 decent body, but dresses like a man. She happens to be a 153 00:11:46.360 --> 00:11:48.519 I'm gonna let's just call it what it. She's a barber and a social 154 00:11:48.559 --> 00:11:52.600 influencer, and you see her surfing. She's got like a six pack abs, 155 00:11:52.960 --> 00:11:58.679 very masculine looking, but still looks like a man to an extent. 156 00:11:58.799 --> 00:12:01.200 With the hair is short and the hats all over the neck and all over 157 00:12:01.240 --> 00:12:03.639 the body. I don't know what a woman can find sexy and that in 158 00:12:03.799 --> 00:12:09.320 another woman wearing that all that inc I could see if a guy had that 159 00:12:09.519 --> 00:12:13.919 if inc turns you on, but another chick looks like a guy, I 160 00:12:13.960 --> 00:12:16.679 don't know. If that's bisexuality, then why not just stay straight and fuck 161 00:12:16.759 --> 00:12:22.840 men? And I you know, but they had a short fling some time 162 00:12:22.840 --> 00:12:26.360 ago, because I think I even brought this up on a previous show last 163 00:12:26.440 --> 00:12:30.840 year. I would follow both of them, and then they were sending each 164 00:12:30.840 --> 00:12:35.679 other public messages back and forth about how they how turned on. They would 165 00:12:35.679 --> 00:12:39.480 get from each other from each other's pictures, and I saw like comments like 166 00:12:39.159 --> 00:12:46.360 Lawless would pollose and Jenna would write back gorgeous hot, and Lawless would respond 167 00:12:46.480 --> 00:12:48.440 all yours. And I'm like, is this happening right in front of me? 168 00:12:48.480 --> 00:12:52.679 Am I watching this happen? But like I said, what I don't 169 00:12:52.759 --> 00:12:56.559 get is the woman she's with now is a lesbian, of course, But 170 00:12:56.720 --> 00:13:00.519 with all her tattoos and her male like physique, her videos of shooting guns 171 00:13:00.519 --> 00:13:03.519 and doing a lot of manly stuff, is it woman that Jenna Jamison really 172 00:13:03.519 --> 00:13:13.000 wants because Lawless looks and acts like a man. But Jamieson has been through 173 00:13:13.240 --> 00:13:18.960 the mill. At the wedding, Lawless's father walked Jenna down the aisle. 174 00:13:20.279 --> 00:13:28.799 Previously Jenna lost the ability to stand because of this mystery illness. Of course, 175 00:13:28.840 --> 00:13:33.320 these two are married by a Johnny Cash in person or not Elvis, 176 00:13:33.320 --> 00:13:37.960 but Johnny Cash, and it all began. It was some TikTok's Maybe TikTok 177 00:13:39.039 --> 00:13:45.120 is the place to go if you want to find that bisexual mate. Lawless 178 00:13:45.159 --> 00:13:48.000 said, the very second that I was in her presence something about this woman. 179 00:13:48.080 --> 00:13:52.159 There's no words to describe the energy that she has. But the very 180 00:13:52.200 --> 00:13:54.000 second that I was in her presence, I was like, oh fuck, 181 00:13:54.399 --> 00:14:00.799 this woman was made for me. Everything about it felt like home. All 182 00:14:00.879 --> 00:14:03.519 Right, I'm guilty of saying the same shit happened to me with my girlfriend 183 00:14:03.600 --> 00:14:07.480 Andrea, So I'm not going to judge too much. Let me maybe we 184 00:14:07.519 --> 00:14:11.279 should wish these late in life lesbians luck. Fine with me, but I 185 00:14:11.360 --> 00:14:18.840 just can't help but think about Jenna Jamison leaving three kids behind, especially after 186 00:14:18.879 --> 00:14:22.480 she studied to become a jew for her last husband, Leor, and it 187 00:14:22.559 --> 00:14:24.960 all seemed to be great until one day she just left him and her son. 188 00:14:26.440 --> 00:14:31.519 She did the same shit to Tito Ortez and they're twins, huge pillhead 189 00:14:31.559 --> 00:14:35.960 back then, and Tito never trusted her along with the kids. He actually 190 00:14:37.000 --> 00:14:41.960 eventually feared her. I mean, think about one of the great MMA fighters 191 00:14:41.960 --> 00:14:46.919 of all time being afraid of a five foot three x porn store that he 192 00:14:46.000 --> 00:14:52.559 actually had secret secretly had cameras installed throughout their home to see just how she 193 00:14:52.720 --> 00:14:56.360 was treating their kids. Or maybe she was sleeping through the day and not 194 00:14:56.480 --> 00:15:01.759 taking care of them. Either way, he didn't what he saw and that 195 00:15:01.879 --> 00:15:05.159 was it. He went for full custody and got it. I mean, 196 00:15:05.159 --> 00:15:09.120 I remember the days where I was. I did an episode of the CBS 197 00:15:09.159 --> 00:15:13.600 show Numbers with Tito and we had a little talk about it because I knew 198 00:15:13.679 --> 00:15:16.799 him through my nephew Joey working with the UFC, and Tito was a big 199 00:15:16.879 --> 00:15:20.519 name back then. He knew who I was because I mentioned my nephew's name. 200 00:15:20.720 --> 00:15:22.639 My nephew was the right head man to Dana White for a few years, 201 00:15:24.320 --> 00:15:28.480 so he felt okay talking to me. But they had Jenna and Tito 202 00:15:28.799 --> 00:15:33.840 engaged in some really nasty fighting when when things got a bit physical a time 203 00:15:33.919 --> 00:15:37.480 or two, and look, look, Lawless is no angel either. She's 204 00:15:37.480 --> 00:15:39.600 a barber, like I said, barber influencer. She's always on TikTok or 205 00:15:39.600 --> 00:15:45.320 Instagram addressing stories of a violent past. I think most recently, she was 206 00:15:45.320 --> 00:15:48.600 trying to end a relationship with some chicken. I wasn't going smoothly, so 207 00:15:48.639 --> 00:15:52.840 the girl apparently spit in her face, and with that Lawless picked her up 208 00:15:54.320 --> 00:15:58.279 by the throat and body slammed her. Cops her called, and she was 209 00:15:58.360 --> 00:16:03.559 charged with domestic violence and contributing to the delinquency of a minor. The delinquency 210 00:16:03.600 --> 00:16:07.960 of a minor charge is because her children were home during the event, but 211 00:16:07.000 --> 00:16:11.759 they weren't in the room, but they were still there. Meanwhile, this 212 00:16:11.039 --> 00:16:15.799 rare disease that Jenna has had for a long time, it's a rare autoimmune 213 00:16:15.799 --> 00:16:19.840 disorder and which a person's own immune system damages the nerves. It causes muscle 214 00:16:19.879 --> 00:16:26.320 weakness and sometimes paralysis. It's a bitch of an autoimmune disease to get. 215 00:16:27.519 --> 00:16:30.480 But like I said, you know that makes her happy that I wish them 216 00:16:30.559 --> 00:16:34.320 luck, But I just don't see this working out. Jenna's not the kind 217 00:16:34.320 --> 00:16:37.519 of chip that sticks around a long time, and I think she's still soon 218 00:16:37.639 --> 00:16:42.080 tired of Lawless. I think she'll do all she can to ring out the 219 00:16:42.159 --> 00:16:47.480 publicity she can get from this event. She shall tire and they'll split. 220 00:16:47.759 --> 00:16:52.919 I'm gonna give it under two years. I'm gonna say nineteen months. Another 221 00:16:53.039 --> 00:16:57.600 chick that just keeps spitting out her own personal information is Chelsea Handle. She's 222 00:16:57.639 --> 00:17:04.079 no stranger to being very honest about her life, her love life. You 223 00:17:04.079 --> 00:17:11.160 know, she doesn't care who hears it. She uh made it very plain 224 00:17:11.799 --> 00:17:17.839 on an episode on a Wednesday episode of series XM's Andy Radio and Everybody's gonna 225 00:17:17.880 --> 00:17:19.920 fucking show. I don't even know these people are. Everybody's got a show. 226 00:17:22.400 --> 00:17:26.920 So she talked about she realized she had to break up with her ex 227 00:17:26.960 --> 00:17:33.160 boyfriend Ted Harbert, who was once the president of the E Network, after 228 00:17:33.359 --> 00:17:38.200 having a threesin with him and her female massus. Chelsea said she was very 229 00:17:38.240 --> 00:17:42.640 turned on by the masseus. Oh it's Andy Cohen's. I'm sorry, that's 230 00:17:42.640 --> 00:17:45.720 what Andy Radios and I didn't know that Andy Cohen is. And okay, 231 00:17:45.759 --> 00:17:51.039 that's that's a big show. Okay. She did say she slept with women 232 00:17:51.400 --> 00:17:55.279 but had never dated a woman, but she ended up hooking up with her 233 00:17:55.319 --> 00:17:57.480 several times without the guy. You know, they left Ted out of it, 234 00:17:59.480 --> 00:18:03.960 and eventually the manage ATOI caused Chelsea to realize she was more into the 235 00:18:04.480 --> 00:18:10.599 unidentified Masseus than Ted Harbert, which ultimately led to demage of their relationship. 236 00:18:10.920 --> 00:18:15.119 Sometimes Chelsea likes to say, oh, Ted didn't like the fact that I 237 00:18:15.119 --> 00:18:18.400 didn't like the fact that Ted said I was missing I was mixing business with 238 00:18:18.480 --> 00:18:22.519 pleasure. Well, back then, Chelsea liked to drink vodka a lot. 239 00:18:22.559 --> 00:18:26.480 I mean, she didn't even an entitle of her own memoirs. She talks 240 00:18:26.480 --> 00:18:29.799 about liqua one night stand, throwing up, you know, coming home after 241 00:18:29.799 --> 00:18:34.079 getting laid very much, Amory Amy Schumerlich, you know, always getting loaded, 242 00:18:34.279 --> 00:18:37.480 having some guy off sex him. They did end up not liking what 243 00:18:37.599 --> 00:18:42.079 happened in bed. They laid down and get sad about it, and oh, 244 00:18:42.559 --> 00:18:48.720 just a wreck, a wreck of a person. So once she liked 245 00:18:48.720 --> 00:18:52.519 being with the Masseus alone, she knew it was time to break up with 246 00:18:52.519 --> 00:18:56.000 Ted Harbert. They did, or she dated him, and Ted Harbert was 247 00:18:56.000 --> 00:19:00.200 coming up the ranks. He made some big moves in his career. He 248 00:19:00.319 --> 00:19:07.359 was the former a former executive or the former chairman at NBC. He's now 249 00:19:07.400 --> 00:19:11.680 married to a woman named Lisa Madrano. I think in twenty eleven they got 250 00:19:11.720 --> 00:19:15.240 hitched, and handler says she never told Ted that she was sleeping with the 251 00:19:15.319 --> 00:19:19.319 massus on the side, but she called there three some fun and said she 252 00:19:19.319 --> 00:19:23.480 would have one again because she says, you see, I don't want to 253 00:19:23.480 --> 00:19:26.440 get double teamed by a guy, but I would like another girl in this 254 00:19:26.559 --> 00:19:30.079 situation. You know, she can know all this stuff that I'm too fucking 255 00:19:30.119 --> 00:19:36.279 lazy to do. Oh god, nothing worse than hearing a girl wanting sex 256 00:19:36.359 --> 00:19:40.519 and admitting she's a starfish, meaning she lays down in bed and does nothing. 257 00:19:41.480 --> 00:19:45.240 Not one man likes that sort of thing. She said, she doesn't 258 00:19:45.400 --> 00:19:49.960 love the idea of a man she's dating wanting to add another guy into the 259 00:19:51.000 --> 00:19:56.359 equation, no kidding. You know, doesn't want to mail partner and doesn't 260 00:19:56.400 --> 00:20:00.640 want to have penetration with another man. Okay, but she did say maybe 261 00:20:00.839 --> 00:20:04.920 oral is less questionable. I don't know. I've never been up against that 262 00:20:06.000 --> 00:20:11.000 kind of conundrum. Oh God, is there nothing precious or sacred about intimacy 263 00:20:11.000 --> 00:20:15.480 anymore? I mean, does anybody keep their mouth shut even if your legs 264 00:20:15.519 --> 00:20:18.279 are wide open? Can you get your mouth shut? Because this one is 265 00:20:18.319 --> 00:20:22.640 desperate for any attention at all. When I look at her. She reminds 266 00:20:22.680 --> 00:20:26.440 me of the person and the woman who gets drunk during the day, you 267 00:20:26.480 --> 00:20:30.759 know, on rose or Chardonnay and ends up banging the poolboy or maybe even 268 00:20:30.680 --> 00:20:37.200 in the driver for Uber Eats. I could totally see Chelsea Handler being that 269 00:20:37.279 --> 00:20:41.839 kind of woman. Listen that big mansion in bel Air, a mansion that 270 00:20:41.519 --> 00:20:45.480 when she was a kid would she would drive by with her family and say 271 00:20:45.559 --> 00:20:48.759 to her family, I'm gonna own that house one day, and god damn 272 00:20:48.759 --> 00:20:52.759 it, she ended up owning that house. I like stories like that. 273 00:20:52.799 --> 00:20:55.559 They really mean a lot to me. I love the fact that people are 274 00:20:55.559 --> 00:20:59.039 gonna have that kind of perseverance and then with a good timing and good luck, 275 00:20:59.039 --> 00:21:02.240 the house becomes availab you know, have millions and why not buy it. 276 00:21:02.720 --> 00:21:04.680 You buy property in certain parts of California, it's only gonna go up 277 00:21:04.720 --> 00:21:11.119 and go up big and fast. Or in Dennis Miller Boy's house way up 278 00:21:11.160 --> 00:21:15.160 north in like Monticito area of California, and I don't know what he bought 279 00:21:15.200 --> 00:21:21.559 it for, but he ended up selling it for fifty million dollars. That's 280 00:21:21.559 --> 00:21:25.400 why he left the podcast world. And he's been traveling with his wife all 281 00:21:25.440 --> 00:21:29.359 over the world India. It'll like they just have gone everywhere. Haven't heard 282 00:21:29.440 --> 00:21:33.319 from Dennis or seeing any hide nor hair of him, or heard from him 283 00:21:33.400 --> 00:21:37.240 or heard anybody else talk about him. And I don't know three years now, 284 00:21:37.519 --> 00:21:41.160 he just did not like the way the world was changing and the wokeness 285 00:21:41.160 --> 00:21:44.960 and all that shit. He felt like he was bound to get in trouble 286 00:21:45.000 --> 00:21:47.480 if he opened his mouth and said something about somebody at the wrong time. 287 00:21:48.039 --> 00:21:51.599 Whenever somebody's at a party and got his opinion wanted his opinion about something, 288 00:21:52.039 --> 00:21:53.160 Dennis would come up with an idea that he had to go to the bathroom 289 00:21:53.240 --> 00:21:56.839 right away and then leave the party. He just felt, you know what, 290 00:21:56.880 --> 00:21:59.559 it's better than not give my opinion and get canceled. I'll just go 291 00:21:59.680 --> 00:22:03.599 home. Might not be bad advice, but I want to say, I 292 00:22:03.680 --> 00:22:08.759 remember when Ted Harbert first got to the E Channel, replacing the clueless lesbian 293 00:22:08.880 --> 00:22:15.680 leader Mindy Herman, the woman who canceled My talk show way back in two 294 00:22:15.680 --> 00:22:21.119 thousand and one. As much as a liar, Mindy Herman was, especially 295 00:22:21.119 --> 00:22:26.160 when she included herself and all the articles about me and the upcoming talk show 296 00:22:26.240 --> 00:22:29.599 AJ after Hour, she was always picture with me on a bunch of articles 297 00:22:29.839 --> 00:22:34.480 that came out back then Variety, Hollywood Reporter. One picture in particular, 298 00:22:34.519 --> 00:22:38.559 I remember she was standing on the fire escape of the really cool studio space 299 00:22:38.599 --> 00:22:44.880 in Tribeca that we used for my show Downtown New York City. She's all 300 00:22:45.000 --> 00:22:48.359 smiles and always used to gush about me in those articles. Aj has what 301 00:22:48.440 --> 00:22:52.119 it takes to enter the late night space, late night talk show space. 302 00:22:52.240 --> 00:22:56.160 He's funny, he's smart as a whip, and he has this ability to 303 00:22:56.200 --> 00:22:59.640 talk to people and get them to admit to things they otherwise never would. 304 00:22:59.759 --> 00:23:04.400 He's a real shomer. Yeah. Meanwhile, Mindy knew all the while she 305 00:23:04.480 --> 00:23:08.799 was gonna can my show took her four weeks to do it, and after 306 00:23:08.839 --> 00:23:11.720 working eighteen months on the show, it took her four weeks to do it. 307 00:23:11.759 --> 00:23:17.039 But before she did that, she slashed my show's budget in half, 308 00:23:17.799 --> 00:23:21.400 kept putting the show on at these ridiculous hours when nobody was gonna see it 309 00:23:21.640 --> 00:23:25.039 one am, two am. It was never in the same time slot twice. 310 00:23:25.119 --> 00:23:27.160 I mean once no one knew where to find it or what it was 311 00:23:27.200 --> 00:23:32.519 on. Now, could I have been a better host? Of course, 312 00:23:32.640 --> 00:23:34.839 I was learning how to do it I had the dump shtion and I had 313 00:23:34.839 --> 00:23:41.079 the confidence I had to wearwithal that I was doing something that was different. 314 00:23:41.240 --> 00:23:44.799 So of course they would have gotten better all the time. You know, 315 00:23:45.200 --> 00:23:48.720 no one's qualified raine job. They get you grow with it, and eventually 316 00:23:48.759 --> 00:23:52.480 you're good at it. So I never got that shot. That's a tough 317 00:23:52.519 --> 00:23:57.960 feeling. But later on I learned that Mindy Hermann was a part of the 318 00:23:59.000 --> 00:24:03.240 Magic Johnson talk show, which failed miserably, and she was part of another 319 00:24:03.480 --> 00:24:07.799 talk show, maybe The Chevy Chase, so maybe they also didn't fare very 320 00:24:07.799 --> 00:24:11.240 well. So she came to E knowing she was not a huge fan of 321 00:24:11.279 --> 00:24:15.720 that format. Meanwhile, the bosses before her had known me for like six 322 00:24:15.799 --> 00:24:19.759 years, and we're really really behind the show. We've been working on it, 323 00:24:19.839 --> 00:24:22.400 like I said, for over a year. We filmed the pilot in 324 00:24:22.400 --> 00:24:26.920 New York City. We filmed the pilot in LA but I didn't know what 325 00:24:27.000 --> 00:24:30.240 she felt about talk show, so she canceled it without really giving it a 326 00:24:30.319 --> 00:24:34.400 chance. But like I said before, we shot the show in a place 327 00:24:34.400 --> 00:24:40.759 called Studio seven, which was on the boarder of Chinatown and Tribeca, which 328 00:24:40.839 --> 00:24:44.240 was downtown New York City. I even had an old Asian man who operated 329 00:24:44.279 --> 00:24:48.839 the elevated by hand like the old days, and the show was canceled in 330 00:24:48.920 --> 00:24:52.279 mid June twenty two years ago. Next week, and his fate would have 331 00:24:52.400 --> 00:24:57.559 it, when the twin Towers were destroyed by the Saudi terrorist fucks. That 332 00:24:57.599 --> 00:25:03.559 whole neighborhood was shut down and nobody was allowed back for weeks. So who 333 00:25:03.599 --> 00:25:07.000 knows what would have happened to my show? And I think I've said this 334 00:25:07.039 --> 00:25:11.759 before, but sometime around two thousand and nine, I'm sitting in the computer 335 00:25:11.839 --> 00:25:15.920 room at my house with Roxy on my knee. She's like five years old, 336 00:25:15.599 --> 00:25:19.200 and I'm showing her videos of great singers like Sinatra, Sammy Davis, 337 00:25:19.240 --> 00:25:23.480 the Beatles, Edith Poff, Charles asn of War, and suddenly I see 338 00:25:23.519 --> 00:25:27.839 that Minnie Hermann sends me an invite to follow her on Facebook. I couldn't 339 00:25:27.880 --> 00:25:33.559 believe it, and look, believe it or not, I was still sore 340 00:25:33.559 --> 00:25:37.319 and pissed off seven years later out of the cancelation, and I couldn't believe 341 00:25:37.319 --> 00:25:41.160 what I was seeing. So I write back to her, I hope you're 342 00:25:41.160 --> 00:25:44.920 reaching out to me to apologize and admit your mistake of derailing my career, 343 00:25:45.119 --> 00:25:49.400 and she said, yes she was. She said she felt terrible her self 344 00:25:49.440 --> 00:25:53.279 because after much thought, she felt she didn't give the show enough of a 345 00:25:53.359 --> 00:25:59.240 shot. As you think four weeks isn't enough, they're gonna read on anything. 346 00:26:00.119 --> 00:26:03.240 Once again, she admitted she was wrong and very very sorry. So 347 00:26:03.400 --> 00:26:08.680 I called off the dogs and I slipped into being decent towards her. And 348 00:26:08.799 --> 00:26:12.839 takes a big person to admit they were wrong, and I'm glad she possessed 349 00:26:12.839 --> 00:26:17.319 the balls to do that. And suddenly, in a matter of an hour, 350 00:26:18.119 --> 00:26:22.680 I felt so much of the bitterness inside my body just began to dissipate. 351 00:26:23.079 --> 00:26:26.160 I suddenly had a calm this about me, and once she said what 352 00:26:26.240 --> 00:26:30.200 she said, I was over it. I just should have not taken in 353 00:26:30.319 --> 00:26:34.720 so personally, because everybody in Hollywood has those horror stories that really hurt. 354 00:26:36.000 --> 00:26:41.400 Shows that get canceled weight too early is a common theme. And what you 355 00:26:41.400 --> 00:26:44.440 gotta do is go about your business of getting the next job and the next 356 00:26:44.519 --> 00:26:48.720 job. And I was, perhaps foolishly believing that I had what it takes 357 00:26:48.720 --> 00:26:52.519 and the show was going to get me back to living in New York City 358 00:26:52.759 --> 00:26:56.559 and nothing was more important than that. Back then, and when I look 359 00:26:56.599 --> 00:27:00.559 back in the whole situation, now it turns out that Mindy Herman and given 360 00:27:00.599 --> 00:27:04.119 me the hook was actually a blessing. As a lot of bad news is 361 00:27:06.119 --> 00:27:08.319 if the show kept going on, that means I stay in New York City 362 00:27:08.680 --> 00:27:14.319 and never moved La and never would have met my wife Lola, and I 363 00:27:14.319 --> 00:27:17.720 wouldn't have had Roxy and Rock with the loves of my life. And then 364 00:27:17.759 --> 00:27:22.000 if Lola and I hadn't fought like Captain Dogs so much, I wouldn't have 365 00:27:22.039 --> 00:27:26.759 met Andrea. So indeed, everything happens for a reason. And now I 366 00:27:26.799 --> 00:27:30.920 see that the cancelation was actually a blessing, and God putting Minnie Herman in 367 00:27:30.960 --> 00:27:36.640 my life was actually a gift. So take it from me. And you 368 00:27:36.680 --> 00:27:41.640 know, don't overreact whenever the bad news hits. You just know that in 369 00:27:41.759 --> 00:27:45.799 every dark cloud there was always a silver lining. And there's the other proverb, 370 00:27:45.000 --> 00:27:48.599 when one door closes, an other one opens. Blah blah. It's 371 00:27:48.599 --> 00:27:52.559 true. That shit's all true. I've lived it. If I hadn't stupidly 372 00:27:52.720 --> 00:27:56.599 slipped into a drug and alcohol phase to suppress my anger and sorrow, my 373 00:27:56.720 --> 00:28:03.160 career would and could have gone a very different way. Because you see, 374 00:28:03.200 --> 00:28:06.559 nothing good happens to you when you're sitting around and feeling sorry for yourself. 375 00:28:07.000 --> 00:28:11.640 I think most of you know that. But anyhow, Minny Herman ends up 376 00:28:11.799 --> 00:28:15.200 splitting the network right before I did, and she left with a twenty million 377 00:28:15.240 --> 00:28:22.880 dollar parachute for starting Ease I think the Style Channel. Meanwhile, she left 378 00:28:22.880 --> 00:28:30.000 with all that dull despite a scathing published report alleging numerous financial improprieties and bad 379 00:28:30.039 --> 00:28:34.640 behavior on her part. Under her guidance. E had one short term hit 380 00:28:36.000 --> 00:28:41.359 in The Anna Nicole Smith Show, and that ran for two seasons under Mindy's 381 00:28:41.400 --> 00:28:44.359 watch, and a lot of people at e and in the business felt she 382 00:28:44.480 --> 00:28:48.920 was exploiting Anna Nicole Smith's drug and alcohol use. And I'm sure if you 383 00:28:48.000 --> 00:28:52.039 look back at those clips you'll see no studio head would have kept this going. 384 00:28:53.440 --> 00:28:57.759 Any network had would have seen how Anna needed obvious help and an intervention 385 00:28:57.880 --> 00:29:03.559 or at least the rehabs was in order. But Mindy wanted ratings, and 386 00:29:03.599 --> 00:29:07.599 as Anna got sicker and sicker, the show's ratings dropped a lot, even 387 00:29:07.640 --> 00:29:11.720 though they had a strong debut. The show went right down like a rock 388 00:29:11.759 --> 00:29:15.400 and a river, and it would because of how she let anna be exploited 389 00:29:15.400 --> 00:29:19.920 that many A lists began to refuse interviews with the channel. That had never 390 00:29:21.039 --> 00:29:23.119 happened before. When I moved to LA, the E Channel was a type 391 00:29:23.119 --> 00:29:27.920 of channel everyone in the industry would leave on all day in their house because 392 00:29:27.960 --> 00:29:33.200 we were typically very friendly towards celebrities, and that all changed with Mindy at 393 00:29:33.240 --> 00:29:38.240 the Wheel. We used to have a huge competition with VH one in Bravo, 394 00:29:40.000 --> 00:29:44.680 both of which moved into ease pop culture and celebrity space. But then 395 00:29:45.480 --> 00:29:48.440 it all went to shit, and ratings for the channel are flat by the 396 00:29:48.519 --> 00:29:52.559 end of two thousand and three. Anyhow, long tangent. When Mindy left, 397 00:29:52.599 --> 00:29:57.039 Ted Harbert came aboard, I took one look at him and felt he 398 00:29:57.119 --> 00:30:00.279 was a creepy kind of guy. I just felt that way. At some 399 00:30:00.359 --> 00:30:04.680 point in Walks, Chelsea Handler, who was looking to get her career going 400 00:30:04.759 --> 00:30:10.519 after the hidden camera show she co coasted with the stand up comic Kiis Sultanovich, 401 00:30:10.599 --> 00:30:15.200 called girls behaving Badly. When that was canceled, Chelsea went to eat, 402 00:30:15.839 --> 00:30:18.799 and obviously Ted Harbert got a heart on a fur and took her right 403 00:30:18.880 --> 00:30:23.079 in. She found she could openly flirt with her very married Ted Harbert, 404 00:30:23.119 --> 00:30:27.519 and she seized the opportunity and they carried on an affair while what do you 405 00:30:27.559 --> 00:30:33.079 know, Harbert gave her her own talk show, Chelsea Lately. That burned 406 00:30:33.079 --> 00:30:37.400 my ass for a bit too, But I haven't liked that show. I 407 00:30:37.440 --> 00:30:41.400 can't lie I liked Chelsea Lately. This is before Chelsea Handler. I had 408 00:30:41.440 --> 00:30:45.960 to make sure everyone knew her political viewpoints and just how left she was. 409 00:30:47.200 --> 00:30:51.200 Back then at E, all she cared about was getting drunk and getting laid, 410 00:30:51.240 --> 00:30:56.319 and then she'd latch onto Ted Harbert before eventually becoming a public public couple 411 00:30:56.359 --> 00:31:00.720 from twenty eleven to I think twenty fifteen. So Handler brought up a marriage, 412 00:31:02.279 --> 00:31:04.759 screwed the president of E, got her own talk show. I mean, 413 00:31:04.799 --> 00:31:08.400 she definitely had a game plan that one. And you see, this 414 00:31:08.480 --> 00:31:11.720 is something only a woman can do. It's a lot easier than a male 415 00:31:11.799 --> 00:31:17.240 employee or a male host trying to carry on in a fair with a married 416 00:31:17.400 --> 00:31:21.279 female executive, for sure. But you know what, I'm not, I'm 417 00:31:21.319 --> 00:31:26.279 not hating her for any of it. Who knows, if Minnie Herman weren't 418 00:31:26.359 --> 00:31:27.880 gay and happened to be cute, maybe I would have done the same thing 419 00:31:27.880 --> 00:31:33.880 to scare my own show. But like I said earlier, everything happened for 420 00:31:33.920 --> 00:31:38.000 a reason, and I'm now so glad it did. I'm a J. 421 00:31:38.160 --> 00:31:42.599 Benson. That was your free show for June eleventh, twenty three. There'll 422 00:31:42.640 --> 00:31:47.039 be another free show, I believe midweek. Make sure to catch it. 423 00:31:47.160 --> 00:31:52.400 If not, go to patreon dot com slash fame as a bitch and drop 424 00:31:52.440 --> 00:31:56.680 a fiver in the slot and you get me for a whole month, twenty 425 00:31:56.799 --> 00:32:01.200 or more shows per month. You'll dig it, all right. That's you, 426 00:32:01.319 --> 00:32:04.319 guys. Have a good rest of the week and I'll talk to you 427 00:32:04.279 --> 00:32:05.240 in a few days. Take you