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You're listening to the Getting Salty Experienced
podcast. We up back. That's right.

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We talk off Monday, and we
might take off every Monday in July.

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Right roof. Oh yeah, yep, I felt. I welcome back

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to the Getting Salty Experienced podcast,
the only one that brings the firehouse kits

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your table for that matter, the
apparatus floor, the bunk room, the

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TV room right to you right,
not just to kitchen table. We bring

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it all, bro, bring it
all. We bring it up the Greenwood

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Lake too. That's where Louis is
right now, off Greenwood Lake. Well,

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I would you blow up a spot
like that? Oh look at that

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man, that's like a little piece
of heaven, little slice of heaven there.

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Roof. I shine a bow,
pure green grass right on the water.

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Huh. What's your what's your rent? Like the whole neighborhood? So

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they keep everybody away for that kind
of money, Mikey, I guarantee he

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might have rented the whole green with
lake. I'm thinking I remember he was

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a former Wall Street guy. Listen, you know what, I know it,

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I know it, prob And what
happened? Your mother in law came

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up right? What'd she bring the
meat balls. She what she made tonight?

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Thereini a plant rolling team. She
brought the sauce, so she made

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the sauce. You brought the jaws
souce. Every two years we make sauce.

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So she had it the jaws right. You showed me how to do

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that. I was doing myself.
She brought it up. She made the

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a plant roller TEENI a little Boston
with it too. What Yeah, not

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so many people he pasta anymore?
Like me and my brone are the only

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ones abody else East. So yeah, what kind of pasta? Jeff Greenie,

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A couple of burghers and the ribs
and stuff to the hole, even

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living hot, living high on the
hog there, Mikey, Cologne, isn't

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it? God bless America's beautiful country
in the world. It really is the

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light, he added, though he
did it, said he did. Absolutely.

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We actually we're talking about well we
were were, as I was saying

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when we were off the air.
We're past two thousand and five hundred views

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for almost three thousand views or any
for our episode Volume thirty nine are the

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best of the bravest interviews with the
ft Wise. We had a little podcast,

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no idea what they're doing what you
have to pay him, Mike,

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Finally, what did you get him
on the show? You had to give

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him some money? Alf, We're
paying him in spurts. You know,

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a down payment was put down,
so by the end of the year,

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I'm thinking I'll have it paid off. Hopefully he's smart, you know,

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yeah, indeed, indeed, indeed
he's smart. I was just gonna say

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something else if I got oh,
so I told these guys. So I

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go to the Yankee game last night, right, the whole family. I

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take my wife, the kids,
one of my son's friends games over.

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I go to take a piss.
Right, there's eight thousand guys that have

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bathroom. I looked to my right
and that's a guy giving me this hairy

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eyeball right, I'm like, this
guy has to watch the show. Bro

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not done washing my hand? He
comes off it. I watched the show

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on from Orlando. Great show man. I love it. I love it.

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He goes, uh, thanks,
but I really appreciate it. Blah

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blah blah. I go outside.
He's like, dude, can I take

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a selfie with you? I want
to send them to the guys. I

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should have got the guy's name that's
my bed. Bro, I look out

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a cormia. My wife's doing this. Oh my god, But did you

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walk into a movie here the other
day? You were telling us movies last

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week? Yeah, crazy, crazy, I tell yeah. I mean,

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I'm not that famous, so I
can't. I can't say that's ever happened

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to me. I'll trade the fame
for final's money any day the week.

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That's what I mean so far,
Bro, what I'm saying. So we're

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off every Monday this month. I
think next Thursday we got who we got

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next Thursday? Is it Timmy who? I'll former Lieutenant Kelly twenty he's the

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twentieth. I think, oh,
oh, you're right, a little two

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weeks away. There you go.
Advanced advertising have the whole the whole month

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of bill. We got good guys
for the month of July. So I

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got the ninety year old guy from
seventeen truck. Oh what I tried,

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bro, ninety years old. He's
gotta have some old stories, man.

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That should be good, God blessed, and I hope he makes it.

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We'll hit him with that line.
Of course's the rest of the family with

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it. You made the state stay
outside. They're all downstairs. In the

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yard, in the base and then
the first floor. I'm upstairs. What

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are you doing? You want to
you know how we're gonna do a podcast.

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If you could hear my mother in
law screaming in the background in the

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town. Right, does she bring
like the Mary on a Half show with

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her? Or no, you don't
bring that with her? She leaves.

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You gotta put one in the house
to bless the whole house, right,

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come with a couple of she had
a time, a couple of times,

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loaves of bread she had. She
brings the whole a lot of bridgote,

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all that stuff. Yeah, she's
off the boat Italian. Oh yeah,

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yeah, if you talked to me, you know, my first five seconds

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I said that to my mother all
the time. I said, I hadn't

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been in this country for like thirty
years. I still can barely understead.

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Do you listen to fine? What
are you doing? Lou You're my favorite

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son in law, your only law. That's the way I'm my favorite.

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Maybe your follow in law told you, hey, LOOI don't be a poop

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poop party. You need a party, party, party poop excellent. All

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That goes for call fives. Karao
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People used to make fun of him. Right, But I tell you the

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stuff the ship that comes off the
cause even in even doing ovahaul, Bro,

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it's not the same stuff that used
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plastics. It's all out other craps. Though. Don't be a tough guy.

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Use your SCBA, collect your pension
for a long time. And that

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is that? All right? That's
it. Let's bring out Gueston, all

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right, isn't he Well, he's
I have many bosses at the firehouse,

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but he's he's somebody I work alongside. Doesn't feel like a boss. And

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I mean it as a compliment,
Ladies and gentlemen. Out of the West

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Haven, Connecticut Fire Department, our
department. The story and retired Lieutenant Bill

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Heffern There he is, Bro there, you know, living the dream in

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his Hawaiian shirt. Bro. You
know what I'm saying, oh, but

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Jamaica, Oh, I want to
take a bill to wait as soon as

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you retire. That's the first thing
you put on, is that shirt?

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For he does we have flip flops? Where's your margarady? You got one

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there? Next year? Away?
Gatoradya got gatorady too. You're not drinking

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today? Rough? M hm,
yes, they hydra. Yeah, you've

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been drinking a lot. I haven't, So I'll do drinking for the both

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of you. How'd you like that? Excellent? Um? Fair enough?

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Before we get it to it,
I know the guys have been asking for

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it. Let's do the right thing
here. Let's give the five bells for

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the two guys that we lost in
Newark. You can bring up that pictures,

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Mike, Rest and peace. Brothers. We say this all the time.

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This job can humble you in a
second. Man, careful, please,

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you know it'll Humbia going into a
ship. That'll Humbia. That's like

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a floating subseller, bro, you
I'm out, bro. We took that

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maritime, that that shipboard firefighting in
maritime. That was one of the hardest

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classes. That think we overtook and
I am out out out out you know,

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after I woke up this morning.
I was watching that. I was

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just asking Kevin and the pre show. I remembered it and I forgot all

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about it. I had gone to
they had a ship fire in Staaten Island,

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I think it was a Staten island, and we went as a squad

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to support and the fire was out. It was all cars. It wasn't

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multiple floors, I don't think,
maybe just two floors, but we had

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to go down to the to the
bottom, right to the hall, I

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guess. And when I got there, the chief said, you know,

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most of it's out, do me
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meter on, do this, do
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secondary. And when we got down
at it was pitch black. Everything was

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full of all. I mean,
I cannot tell you about the oil right,

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you could not even the cars were
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had to be I don't know,
a hundred of them on this level.

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And then they were side to side
just enough that you could barely walk barely

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walk through there, and a lot
of times they were too close you had

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to jump up on the car.
And everything was full of oil. There

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was I mean, it was I
couldn't even explained it to what it really

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looked like. And everything was off
steaming and it was just a mess.

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And I remember I didn't you know, we didn't have our mask. I'm

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thinking about that now. I'm like, we were slipping all over the place,

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walking over the hoods of the car, and I was just like it

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had to be. I can't imagine
like going down into there if the fire

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was actually still happening, you know
what I mean. It was one way

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in one way smoke from a car
fight. Bros Out. Oh, I

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think we have a picture of the
vessel right now. Yeah, let's pull

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that up. I mean it.
And and it was so bad actually that

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the ft and why I had to
send, amongst other units, Rescue five

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and Squad eight from Staten Island to
go assistant a mutual aid. And here's

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that boat just to give you an
idea of how serious it was. You

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can see an FDN Y Marine unit
there in the foreground. This was an

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extremely serious fire that unfortunately, very
tragic consequences got to be like ten stories

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there right at twenty fifteen at least. It is yeah to go down in

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there. You know, I had
heard that somebody had you know, the

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guys were texting me and stuff that. You know, they sent other rescue

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companies from other cities, you know, I guess in Jersey or whatever,

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and uh, you know, those
guys were running into trouble and given may

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days. So that's as real as
it gets. And unfortunately, uh,

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you know, I think there's some
other guys that are in serious critical situation

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there too, so hopefully, you
know, they come out of this thing.

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But yeah, right, it's a
it's a scary that's a scary fire

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man. That's scary story. And
these two guys, just to pull up

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their picture one more time, Uh, they're both you know, the ages

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respectively on firefighter exactly. Mister firefighter
Brooks was almost fifty in firefight or a

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cope. I hope I'm saying his
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I apologize sincerely. It was about
forty five. So you can have a

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lot of because I'm preaching to the
choir here with the three of you,

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you can have a lot of time
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the circumstances are that dire, it
doesn't matter who you are, it'll kill

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you. Yep. From the spot
you go in. That's clear. When

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you go straight down into you know, a hatch or a stairway or whatever.

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You the only thing you could take
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not only go so far. And
if that gets jammed up, or if

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it gets well, get anything now
and it's gone, it's not. If

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it's gone, get snagged up,
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It's gonna slip out of your hand. It's gonna get tangled up. It's

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it's uh, the worst case scenario, man, it really is. Just

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either I don't even know if it's
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I don't even know. We like
before we start talks about my band Bill

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here, you gotta give the word
of the day that Gonzo fucking blammed out.

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I'm trying to see. I mean, let me see if I could

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find it here because it wasn't typed
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is now and I apologe I'll tell
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of the day. I'm looking I'm
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it? Where did you put it? Gonzo? Here we go. The

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word of the day is silly.
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because, oh he changed it the
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You change it the bill? It
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William. I said, what do
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or Bill? He said, oh, you called me Bill? I said,

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don't word. By the end of
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much I'll be silly. I'll be
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know what I'm ever missed you?
Before you go only further we start talking

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to mister Bill. We gotta do
the pledge, please, all right,

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Here we go. I pledge allegiance
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America and to the Republic for which
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indivisible with liberty and justice for all. Excellent, excellent, all right,

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missed the bill. So you've been
in the in the fire service quite a

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long time. You joined um West
Haven Hooking a loud up company. Number

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one is a volunteer in eighty two. Give us a little of your early

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days background. Where are you from? Why did you start what attract you

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to the fire service? You have
family in there? Whatever. Well,

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I was born and raised in West
Haven, Connecticut, and when I graduated

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from high school, my father taught
me and I quote, don't be an

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Assho'll join the fire department. Didn't
like I was a volunteer at West Table

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Hooking Lotder. It's kind of funny. My father in law was deputy chief

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in my department long before I got
on UM. And I have a picture

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from nineteen fifty seven, all the
guys out in front of the firehouse and

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my father and my father in law
are standing right next to each other before

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either my wife I were even born. Oh that's you didn't send that one.

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Oh you should have said that one. So they knew each other.

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Oh yeah, he was his bulls. Basically he was the deputy and joined

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h I joined Hookian Lawder in eighty
two, shortly after I get out of

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high school. And uh, you
know, guys, for my generation,

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we did a lot of drinking and
card plan you know, and then they

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tricked you and they made you washing
apperass and train and fight fires afterwards.

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But it was very still is.
It's a great company, very social.

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All the guys know each other.
Um. The funny stories. My father

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was a school teacher, and when
when he was younger and then hook and

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lad or the chief would come down
and say, listen, who wants to

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be a firefighter. We need guys
on the pay department. And he said,

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well, for thirty thirty eight hundred
dollars a year, I could be

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a firefighter, or for four thousand, I could be a teacher at weekends.

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The summer's off. So he became
a teacher. Hey, you make

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a mad choice a year, you
know, it's like the summer is off.

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Though. That's alluring, bro,
that's all right. M that's what

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do you teach? High school?
Grammar school, high school. He's a

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history teacher. A coincidence. Oh
shit, that's when I was going to

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be Bill. I was going to
school to be a history teacher, and

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then the flight apartment cold I went
the other way though. Yeah, that's

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I hung around for a while,
and uh, I didn't get on.

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I was I was one of the
old guys. When I got on,

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I was twenty nine, you know, forty year old guys. You know,

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what's that? What you do before
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worked at a carpet company. I
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are and we have a main street
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a small town, about fifty thousand
people. It's about thirty bars on it.

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So I always saying where are you. We're out on the avenue,

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you know. And uh my,
my current chief and I got on the

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job together, and we knew each
other. We were both bartenders and and

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he was thirty four when we got
on and we said, you know we're

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gonna get all we better get a
real job. So we joined the fire

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department. But back then, you
know, we took a test against seven

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hundred guys. It was it was
quite competitive. Not it's a little different

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these days. And I get your
paramedic and you know they're dying for guys

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to come on the job. Well
that they can't get guys to come on

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the page job. Really, listen, you put a test on, you

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got twenty people take it. You
know, it's how many guys are on

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the on the firepointment. My department, I got fifty six, fifty six

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guys. But you have volleys too, right, you work they worked with

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you. Yeah, when they when
this stations are man, it's we don't

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have half the follways that we used
to have. Its volunt terrorisms down too.

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It's it's no one has time to
do it, no one wants.

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That's across the country that's happening.
Yeah, that's not just us, man,

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I don't understand. But the paid
why guys wouldn't want to be a

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paid fine? And I don't know
we have guys quit quinn. I never

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heard of the guy in the fire
department before. Oh a loan. Maybe

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maybe he didn't feel Yeah, maybe
he's in the gym right, put a

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couple more pads on. Let's get
him all the job. That's all.

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I'm getting paid a decent salary to
not running into a burning building, and

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on top of it, and also
a complete dufus. So you don't us.

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I haven't heard that along. That's
not even your generation. That's a

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mike. You gotta remember. Firemen
are crazy, not because we run into

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burning buildings when everyone's running out,
but because we liked to exactly. I

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never heard that I can see anybody
to run into a burning building. We

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like it. That is very true. I can't believe they can't get how

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far is that from long Island.
I'll get my son over there, and

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twenty miles you go across the water. That's it. You take the ferry,

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Mike. Is that the pizza capital
over there? No, we're we're

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adjacent to the pizza capital, pizza
capital of course, being New Haven.

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We're in west I don't know.
I would put a couple of West Havens.

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Uh pizza. What makes them the
pizza capital? Dude? They got

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great pizza there, old school.
Because we have nothing else. We're sandwich

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between New York and Boston. Let
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don't know. I'm just as kid. That's all over there. I got

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that. Evens got mikes and new
parties and we got yeah, that's true.

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We are uh, we're in the
capital, pizza capital world. Wow.

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And now you know who wants to
put an end to that? This

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guy right here? Hold on a
minute, where is it? Come on?

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Man, No more pizza, no
cold, no more cold, and

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we're cold. I'll beat you could
do a little sniffer in the White House,

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but you cannot. It's been a
great podcast, like thank you all

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for walking this evening list, but
you can't make no pitch pizza all right?

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No, idea. What you're talking
about the guy with a Hawaiian shirt

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on? I like it. I
don't know, all right, So how

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many companies are there in New Haven? West An? West An right,

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I'm sorry my bed, Uh,
well, my my district. We've got

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two engines, two rescues in the
truck. So you have two engines,

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two rescues and truck. What's the
truck? The truck one is a volley

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company? Right? Oh? That? How can I separate? I'm just

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talking about the paid guys. Oh
okay, So what do they have?

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What kind of what kind of truck
are they riding? What's the new truck

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they just got, Mike, that's
a uh it's suffering, Yeah we have.

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Yeah, it's it's it's Reamouledgy,
it's truck twenty two. Uh the

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exact brand. I don't. I
can't run the brand. What is it

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a re amount or yeah, yep, there you go, remart with the

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bucket. Yeah, we just got
it out too long ago. Uh.

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And it's a beautiful rig and the
rescues For context for the audience out there,

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it's not rescues like for example,
in New York Rescue Company, we

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call our ambulance our medical units rescues. So those are houses with yeah,

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medical unions there you go. We
gotta fire nothing like yours. What do

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you guys want a majority of medical
calls? Do you do a decent amount

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of? Yeah? It was our
our bread and butter as medical is now.

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Unfortunately, if I shouldn't say unfortunately, it keeps everybody employed. But

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we still have our share of fires
and the regular regular stuff rescues and whatnot.

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So if it gets if it goes
to a second lamb or something like

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that, you're getting we have automatic
mutually. West Han's kind of unique.

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We have three separate fire districts.
In one town, we're only ten square

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miles, so we pull units from
the other two districts automatically if we if

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we get a working fire, we'll
automatically get an engine in another truck and

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we call for a second or third
after that. So on the page,

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who how many guys are riding on
the rigs? Four guys on the engine,

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four guys on the truck. Two
of those guys'll jump onto the medically

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united depending on if there's a second
medical call, two guys on. There's

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three guys on the second engine and
two guys on another medical unity on the

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shift, so it's twelve guys on
the shift. So it's four including the

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officer and the driver up. Yeah, I'll tell you roofie. Every time

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I hear that, I'm like,
these guys are doing it with less man

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because we're beating the ship out of
it with manpower, and these guys are

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showing up with fucking an officer.
Some guy man the pump, two other

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guys listen up. But so recently
I worked in the out station my own

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engine company. It was me and
my driver. I did, okay,

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you and your driver up first,
just just stretching and you got the line

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basically, and where is this west
Haven, Connecticut? Right there? Primarily

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the three story was we've got some
some apartment buildings, probably four stories,

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a couple hundred units, and some
of them about it the three story.

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Somebody wants out. Didn't west Haven
have a line of duty depth this year?

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A duty? That's what somebody said. Noah, he's confused. No,

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we haven't had learned to do any
last year. North Hand had a

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line of duty we had recently,
Noah, that would be uh Noah,

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Noah, north Haven had a line
of duty death yeah, he works.

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Yeah, all right, so you
get on paid and what you're ninety three

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back in ninety three. Look at
you, guys, Sharon and commons and

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so. But you have one too. How many stations do you have one?

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Everybody's headquarters runs an engine, the
truck, and the two rescue units.

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And now we have the outstation that
runs one engine company. Oh that's

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what you said before? The outstation
you and you and one other guy.

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Yeah, there's three guys. Now, I want to work in the outstation.

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Dude, I want to work in
the outstation in the world. Nobody

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bothering you. There's only how many
guys there? There's only two? Who's

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the firehouse? You and another guy? That's five, right though, that's

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fine? Straight up there? What's
that? There's three? There's three of

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them now they put a third guy
on. Yeah, now before it was

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just you and another guy? Was
it just candle at dinners? And what

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are you guys doing over there?
How big? How big is the firehouse?

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The there's only two of you guys, two bays. That's a typical.

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Uh, it's got a hall upstairs
and other type of an angling firehouse

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Right now, I'm picking it back
coogs. You remember we always said where

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would your out of work ouse?
I always I'm saying, I'm working in

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west Haven, the outhouse. Bro, I want to do the outhouse.

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Bro, you know what I mean. At the other day, you can't

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think anybody's bulls. You gotta break
your own balls. Ordering. Yeah,

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way up there no no change in
the ends up there. So it's just

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an officer and the dude who drives, right, yeah, so you pull

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off first two you are it like, oh, that's that's incredible. Brot

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a third man. They made him
a paramedics so we could do more medicals

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up there. And but you don't
have a you don't have a bus in

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there though, right, you just
have an engine. We just go on

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the engine. But not even good
at that. Now you got three guys,

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right, at least it's somebody else
to talk to, cause the other

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guy pisches you off. Right,
you talked to the other guy. My

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chauffeur went out with a rotator cuff. So I trained a new guy and

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he's now he's driving, and he's
he's a new driver. He's up there

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in the outstage with me. We
got our own response area and uh,

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Mike's Captain Jacob Urban was my pipe
guy. He was the paramedic. He's

408
00:28:18.759 --> 00:28:22.759
in a jump seat, and we
got this apartment on fire, bad job

409
00:28:22.839 --> 00:28:26.160
in the basement and black smoke,
people throwing babies out the window, all

410
00:28:26.279 --> 00:28:29.960
kinds of stuff. And we're on
the way there and I'm trying to tell

411
00:28:30.000 --> 00:28:32.839
the guy it was driving, you
know, slow down a little bit,

412
00:28:32.880 --> 00:28:36.200
don't kill us before we get there, because he never pumped a job before.

413
00:28:37.119 --> 00:28:38.880
And then I realized there's this dead
silence in the back seat, and

414
00:28:38.960 --> 00:28:45.359
I said, Jacob, are you
back there? Yep? Do you ever?

415
00:28:45.880 --> 00:28:47.759
You know you ever on the pipe
for a job? He goes,

416
00:28:48.480 --> 00:28:49.960
I think I had a pot on
the stove once, I say, Greg

417
00:28:52.319 --> 00:29:02.079
playing a game. I got my
pipe man has never putting fire. So

418
00:29:02.200 --> 00:29:04.079
everything everything worked out for the best. But I'm like, what else could

419
00:29:04.119 --> 00:29:10.599
go wrong? You had to look
yeah, like he was quiet back then.

420
00:29:11.640 --> 00:29:15.200
I thought. I thought we left
him behind. We're making any noise.

421
00:29:17.720 --> 00:29:18.480
Let me not laugh too much.
I still want to have a job

422
00:29:18.480 --> 00:29:23.759
tomorrow. So you're with me,
kid. That's what everyone loved work with

423
00:29:23.880 --> 00:29:27.279
me because they can never get in
any trouble. It's always me you get

424
00:29:27.319 --> 00:29:32.640
in trouble. I was known to
get in trouble now and again that's another

425
00:29:32.759 --> 00:29:33.880
road trouble, brom, you know
what I mean? So what did you

426
00:29:33.960 --> 00:29:37.359
do up there now that you know, Mike? Because you're retired now,

427
00:29:37.440 --> 00:29:41.400
so what are you still doing?
I am the department historian, so I

428
00:29:41.640 --> 00:29:47.480
still maintain my office across the street
from headquarters. And Mike, luckily is

429
00:29:47.519 --> 00:29:49.400
our digital media specialist. Since I
don't know how to do any of that

430
00:29:49.440 --> 00:29:52.880
stuff, I give him all my
stuff and say shoot this out on all

431
00:29:52.920 --> 00:29:57.200
the social media, put it on
Instagram and Facebook and he tastes caroll that

432
00:29:57.279 --> 00:30:04.160
stuff? Did you media ex even
have a business? Personal? Wow?

433
00:30:06.279 --> 00:30:10.039
How did you find bike? Anyway? I don't know. The department hired.

434
00:30:10.240 --> 00:30:14.440
I was very happy. See where
I'm going with this roof salty?

435
00:30:15.240 --> 00:30:22.000
What oh man? Yeah? Yeah, he's a good kid, the best.

436
00:30:22.160 --> 00:30:26.319
What do you do with this storian? Now? I keep track of

437
00:30:26.359 --> 00:30:29.519
all the history? I am?
Hey, man, is that a paid

438
00:30:29.640 --> 00:30:33.160
job? No? Should be?
God damn it. I was gonna say,

439
00:30:33.240 --> 00:30:37.039
this guy might be the luckiest guy
in the world. First out house,

440
00:30:37.440 --> 00:30:42.079
the out house, and now pay
historian technical a vige on the part

441
00:30:42.079 --> 00:30:47.720
of my TV shows. Better than
Oh, that's where a break comes in.

442
00:30:47.880 --> 00:30:51.799
Bro. I want to backtrack a
little bit. Bro. So where

443
00:30:51.839 --> 00:30:53.839
do you meet your wife and how
do you make that connection that your father

444
00:30:55.240 --> 00:31:02.400
and her father My wife uh uh
an Irish Woman of the Year award,

445
00:31:03.039 --> 00:31:06.519
Irishman of the Year award the Knights
at Columbus. Actually I don't her since

446
00:31:06.519 --> 00:31:10.160
we were little kids. But the
first time I asked her out on a

447
00:31:10.240 --> 00:31:12.400
date, they were honoring my grandmother
who was Irish Woman of the Year.

448
00:31:14.160 --> 00:31:18.039
And I'm standing in a corner with
my cousin Kevin and my brother Danny,

449
00:31:18.640 --> 00:31:19.519
and I said, hey, look
at that girl in a green dress.

450
00:31:21.039 --> 00:31:22.160
It's one of you. Two guys
should go ask her to dance. Like,

451
00:31:22.240 --> 00:31:25.200
oh, we're not doing that.
It's come on, what's wrong with

452
00:31:25.279 --> 00:31:26.079
what? Are you gay or something? Go on there, go get it.

453
00:31:26.559 --> 00:31:30.519
They're like, we're not doing atis
if you don't dance with her,

454
00:31:30.559 --> 00:31:33.759
eye will And I did, and
I'm still dancing with her, not thirty

455
00:31:33.799 --> 00:31:37.160
one years later. Look at you. And he tried. He tried to

456
00:31:37.200 --> 00:31:41.599
give it up to him. You
know, they couldn't. They didn't push

457
00:31:41.680 --> 00:31:44.160
him in the right direction. You
know. It's being the older brother and

458
00:31:44.880 --> 00:31:47.920
the older cousin. I figured,
I try to try to give him a

459
00:31:47.960 --> 00:31:51.920
little of my irishman married an Irish
woman, and then what are the Irish

460
00:31:52.240 --> 00:31:56.400
Woman of the year who is Yeah, but then you he's got a whole

461
00:31:56.440 --> 00:31:59.359
punch of a once year bro.
It's like two pages long, crying out

462
00:31:59.400 --> 00:32:02.759
loud. He's probably an Irish Friend
of the Year too. West Tavern Elves

463
00:32:02.799 --> 00:32:08.039
five Fighter of the Year, Secretary
of State Public Service a award Charles Davis

464
00:32:08.079 --> 00:32:12.839
an Outstanding Community Service. So I
would imagine that you're very active in your

465
00:32:12.880 --> 00:32:21.599
community. Yes, unit citation your
first job, when you first got on

466
00:32:21.680 --> 00:32:22.839
the job, how long did it
take you to go your first job?

467
00:32:23.400 --> 00:32:28.000
Well, it's kind of funny because
four of us got on. There's four

468
00:32:28.079 --> 00:32:30.200
shifts, and I said, as
long as I don't get on this certain

469
00:32:30.279 --> 00:32:32.759
shift, I'll be okay. Because
I got like six weddings and all this

470
00:32:32.799 --> 00:32:36.519
stuff, and they all fell right
there. And of course that was a

471
00:32:36.559 --> 00:32:39.359
shift I got on. So my
friend Jim O'Brien who's now the chief,

472
00:32:39.480 --> 00:32:43.039
you know, he and I were
rookies. I swapped with him all the

473
00:32:43.119 --> 00:32:45.319
time. And listen, can you
work Saturday? I got so and So's

474
00:32:45.319 --> 00:32:49.160
wedding. Every time I did that, he caught a job. It took

475
00:32:49.240 --> 00:32:54.880
me a long time before I actually
go he was so he was he was

476
00:32:54.960 --> 00:33:00.599
the block cloud bro. Yeah,
and Billy silly will was the oh silly

477
00:33:00.759 --> 00:33:08.319
Willie. Oday. I was gonna
say like that, that's There's if you

478
00:33:08.440 --> 00:33:10.599
missed a job when it's not your
tour, that's one thing. But if

479
00:33:10.640 --> 00:33:15.400
you mutual out of a tour and
somebody catches the jobs, I don't think

480
00:33:15.440 --> 00:33:19.000
there's anything worse than that. Like, while, Bro, that hurts you

481
00:33:19.079 --> 00:33:21.480
for a while, dropping at the
bit you want to get in there,

482
00:33:21.559 --> 00:33:27.680
and especially when you're first starting out
like you are, like definitely that and

483
00:33:27.799 --> 00:33:30.559
then to give it to your friends
who came out with you, and he's

484
00:33:30.599 --> 00:33:31.880
going, yeah, dude, I
just had three jobs thanks to you.

485
00:33:32.440 --> 00:33:35.359
You know, you're just like,
oh my god, I want to put

486
00:33:35.400 --> 00:33:37.240
a forking my eyeball. You need
officers on that. I'll work for you

487
00:33:37.279 --> 00:33:43.279
against available now. Now, you
guys, when you go in that night,

488
00:33:43.559 --> 00:33:46.440
so if you're working in the house
that has the engine and the ladder,

489
00:33:46.599 --> 00:33:50.960
with you working in the ladder,
you're going wherever they tell you to

490
00:33:51.039 --> 00:33:54.799
go that night, wherever the captain
a scientist. Oh what did you prefer?

491
00:33:55.839 --> 00:34:00.279
I love working on the ladder.
Like driving the ladder. We used

492
00:34:00.279 --> 00:34:02.279
to fight over because you know,
a lot of times you get an older

493
00:34:02.319 --> 00:34:06.559
guy, one of the senior men, that's his spot. You know,

494
00:34:06.759 --> 00:34:09.000
you don't you don't like when I
got on, my friend Tommy was the

495
00:34:10.320 --> 00:34:14.280
ladder driver. You never had a
chance. You know, as long as

496
00:34:14.320 --> 00:34:15.360
he was at work, you weren't
driving. I think no one drove at

497
00:34:15.400 --> 00:34:19.360
him. And then when he went
on vacation, like me and Jimmy,

498
00:34:19.480 --> 00:34:21.599
we arm wrestle, you know,
as I want to drive. You drove

499
00:34:21.679 --> 00:34:25.039
the last time. But that was
that's where we always like to be.

500
00:34:25.119 --> 00:34:28.840
And of course, you know the
guys they're like being what they call on

501
00:34:28.920 --> 00:34:31.079
the pipe, you know, they're
they're sitting behind the captain on the engine.

502
00:34:31.159 --> 00:34:34.719
When we started here, the guy
who goes in with the line,

503
00:34:34.800 --> 00:34:37.519
you know. So do you have
an officer on the engine and the ladder

504
00:34:37.599 --> 00:34:42.960
or just one officer for that shift
captain? When I started, the captain

505
00:34:43.039 --> 00:34:45.480
was on the engine and the lieutenant
was on the truck. Okay, so

506
00:34:45.519 --> 00:34:49.719
you have two office around now that
the lieutenant is on the engine of the

507
00:34:49.719 --> 00:34:52.000
captains on the truck. Really why
they why did to make the switch?

508
00:34:52.480 --> 00:34:57.360
I don't know. I think because
the truck goes out less. So the

509
00:34:57.440 --> 00:35:01.800
captain, God, yeah, one
of them. But you really know everybody

510
00:35:02.320 --> 00:35:06.079
in the department, I mean just
from growing up in I mean, everybody's

511
00:35:06.119 --> 00:35:08.480
from West Haven, right, there's
nobody. Wow, what used to be

512
00:35:08.599 --> 00:35:10.639
that way? Yeah, and now
there's a lot of guys from out of

513
00:35:10.719 --> 00:35:15.639
town. It was kind of funny. You talked about Long Island before we

514
00:35:16.360 --> 00:35:19.920
you can't. We used to have
residency like it years ago. You had

515
00:35:19.960 --> 00:35:22.639
to live in West Haven to work
there. And they said, I can't

516
00:35:22.679 --> 00:35:24.960
do that. It's against the constitution
or something. So they said, what

517
00:35:25.039 --> 00:35:29.559
you do is you can can't have
residency, but you can do a as

518
00:35:29.599 --> 00:35:31.519
the crow flies, you know,
you can live so many miles away.

519
00:35:32.199 --> 00:35:35.960
So my chief put in a contract, you know, twenty or twenty five

520
00:35:36.000 --> 00:35:38.360
miles. I forget what it was
radius, and I said, you better

521
00:35:38.519 --> 00:35:43.000
change that to be in the state
of Connecticut because where we are. If

522
00:35:43.039 --> 00:35:45.480
you make a circle, it's twenty
miles big. You hit Long Island,

523
00:35:45.519 --> 00:35:47.920
New York. Yeah, yeah,
yeah, you go right across the sound,

524
00:35:49.199 --> 00:35:52.719
right right on Long Island Sounds there's
a couple of guys in the chat

525
00:35:52.800 --> 00:36:04.199
saying the load of you John,
Uncle, Hey John? Who else coping?

526
00:36:04.239 --> 00:36:07.159
Guys? I saw ye try to
find all. It's kind of hard

527
00:36:07.199 --> 00:36:08.199
to keep the track of the chat
and this at the same time. But

528
00:36:08.320 --> 00:36:10.880
to those guys that pop in,
I'll try to get him in And thanks

529
00:36:10.920 --> 00:36:15.639
you guys for watching tonight. So
far, so good, nothing nothing consequential.

530
00:36:15.760 --> 00:36:19.280
Yes, yeah. How far did
you live from the firehouse when you

531
00:36:19.360 --> 00:36:25.760
first got on the job? Uh? About three blocks walking distance walking distance.

532
00:36:27.920 --> 00:36:30.800
It was funny because when I got
I got transferred to the out station.

533
00:36:30.079 --> 00:36:32.519
I gave my my chief Jimmy,
it's a little shit, and I

534
00:36:32.559 --> 00:36:36.000
said, you know, you just
doubled my commute. It's like a whole

535
00:36:36.039 --> 00:36:42.599
mile. Now, if you had
your choice, would you go back to

536
00:36:42.639 --> 00:36:45.199
the outstation? Would you go keephouse? Station? Is the one, right,

537
00:36:45.320 --> 00:36:50.760
rof I always I always told him, lieutenant's the best job in the

538
00:36:50.840 --> 00:36:53.320
department. And lieutenant at Engrew five, which was the outstation, is the

539
00:36:53.360 --> 00:37:01.079
best job anywhere, absolute best spot
that lieutenant refronto outstation five? How can

540
00:37:01.119 --> 00:37:04.159
I help you who with some of
the bosses? Do you remember who your

541
00:37:04.159 --> 00:37:07.960
bosses wanted you really, uh like
enjoyed working for? Who taught you the

542
00:37:07.119 --> 00:37:12.199
job? Oh? God? You
um. My first contain was George Scranton.

543
00:37:12.920 --> 00:37:15.119
They called him the Book because he
knew everything. He was the book

544
00:37:15.239 --> 00:37:19.840
book of knowledge. I worked for
a lot of great guys over the years

545
00:37:19.920 --> 00:37:23.719
of John Patrie and Billy have Itt. We have it would ended up being

546
00:37:23.840 --> 00:37:30.039
chief in department. The chiefs that
I came on under, Chief William Johnson

547
00:37:30.079 --> 00:37:32.960
would call the Whiggi Whiggie. Jonathan
was one of the one of the last

548
00:37:32.960 --> 00:37:37.800
of the great smoke eaters. He's
an icon in the fire service. Where

549
00:37:37.840 --> 00:37:39.480
we came from. And I always
said, like we would go on to

550
00:37:39.599 --> 00:37:44.400
go training, we'd be standing in
the park a lot somewhere, everybody screaming

551
00:37:44.440 --> 00:37:46.719
asking where are you from. I
said, I'm from West Haven, Connecticut,

552
00:37:46.760 --> 00:37:51.440
And I go, oh, do
you want a Whiggi's boys. Ye

553
00:37:52.920 --> 00:37:54.280
see, they all stood up a
little straighter, and study was an all

554
00:37:54.320 --> 00:38:00.039
Marina colonel. I mean, oh
was he Wow? It was really it

555
00:38:00.159 --> 00:38:01.639
was really something. He was a
man who worked for that's for sure,

556
00:38:01.800 --> 00:38:06.519
you know. But they he commanded
that respect from people. And then they

557
00:38:06.679 --> 00:38:09.000
stood up a little straighter, and
you know, he still don't even know

558
00:38:09.039 --> 00:38:13.800
they were doing it. You know, is wigg still alive now, unfortunately

559
00:38:13.840 --> 00:38:15.559
passed away a couple of years ago. He was our first department storian.

560
00:38:16.039 --> 00:38:20.360
I'm saying, that would be great
if you whispered to somebody. I'm with

561
00:38:20.480 --> 00:38:24.880
Wiggy also, So he shook kind
of his you're in his shoes now,

562
00:38:24.960 --> 00:38:30.159
basically am and the big shoes,
big shoes. The fell, big shoes.

563
00:38:30.519 --> 00:38:34.639
Baby. He was always the unofficial. His story and I mentioned before

564
00:38:34.719 --> 00:38:37.920
to show it. His father was
the chief. So he he goes back

565
00:38:37.000 --> 00:38:39.719
generations and you know, seeing stuff
with his own eyes. It's just it

566
00:38:39.840 --> 00:38:43.599
was amazing. He would come on
and tell stories to us, show us

567
00:38:43.599 --> 00:38:46.679
all black and white photographs, and
you know, it was a firsthand talent.

568
00:38:49.039 --> 00:38:52.159
I was standing on a corner when
this happened. We used to have

569
00:38:52.199 --> 00:38:54.840
an amusement park in our town called
Savin Rock, and you know, it

570
00:38:54.960 --> 00:39:00.480
was all made of wood. It
would burn spectacularly every few years. You

571
00:39:00.559 --> 00:39:02.280
know, it's some of the greatest
fires ever blown before my time. But

572
00:39:02.719 --> 00:39:06.000
he was there for you know,
his father was the chief. He thrown

573
00:39:06.079 --> 00:39:08.440
in the car they drive down there
and he tell us the stories about it.

574
00:39:08.559 --> 00:39:13.199
It was just amazing to air him
talking it. God now finally burned

575
00:39:13.239 --> 00:39:15.559
down. Oh, they tore it
down and at the end of the sixties,

576
00:39:15.599 --> 00:39:21.719
I think it got dilapolated and that
was the end of it. So

577
00:39:21.880 --> 00:39:23.320
when you're working on stuff, when
you look at through stuff, you see

578
00:39:23.400 --> 00:39:29.440
like things that he's done already,
Like you see his initials on something,

579
00:39:29.559 --> 00:39:31.960
or do you see his work.
Yeah, I got a lot of his

580
00:39:32.079 --> 00:39:35.079
son's on the job, his son
step in the chief. Now, he

581
00:39:35.119 --> 00:39:38.119
and I went to school together at
the same age. And you know when

582
00:39:38.199 --> 00:39:42.360
when wig he passed away, he
started cleaning out as far as closet and

583
00:39:42.920 --> 00:39:47.119
his office and whatnot, and just
the amount of stuff is just staggering.

584
00:39:47.199 --> 00:39:53.159
Boxes and photographs and you know,
old helmets and memorabilia. It's got the

585
00:39:53.199 --> 00:39:59.880
whole whole history of our department went
back whole West Table. Yeah, that's

586
00:40:00.079 --> 00:40:05.800
cool. But yeah, did that
department established eighteen eighty eight? That's pretty

587
00:40:05.840 --> 00:40:08.719
early, man. Yeah, how
many five stations back? I presume it

588
00:40:08.800 --> 00:40:14.079
was all volleyed back then? Voluntary? Right, how many stations to have

589
00:40:14.199 --> 00:40:17.519
it at any of those buildings still
around? Yes, West Table Hooking Ladder.

590
00:40:17.559 --> 00:40:21.639
Actually their their building goes back to
eighteen ninety four. It's still there.

591
00:40:22.679 --> 00:40:25.920
What is it now? It's it's
it's still fire station. Oh isn't

592
00:40:27.000 --> 00:40:30.320
really it's getting and it's getting kind
of beat up because it wasn't built for

593
00:40:31.320 --> 00:40:35.280
you know, motorized a brass.
It was on and drawn or horse drawn

594
00:40:35.360 --> 00:40:40.000
back in the day. And it's
got a basement so it's probably got the

595
00:40:40.079 --> 00:40:45.239
lolly columns in there. And oh
yeah, all the current tables in the

596
00:40:45.280 --> 00:40:51.079
bar used to be allegedly is probably
really quick. I just somebody pointed this

597
00:40:51.119 --> 00:40:53.039
out. I'd like to thank rich
Decker for doing so, as well as

598
00:40:53.079 --> 00:40:57.840
Brian Elliott who passed along thist information
to me. Our current tower ladder truck

599
00:40:57.920 --> 00:41:00.679
twenty two is a Pierce ascendant,
so that's our current I had a feeling

600
00:41:00.719 --> 00:41:02.639
it was a peers. I didn't
want to state it because I didn't want

601
00:41:02.639 --> 00:41:06.880
to be incorrect, But thank you
to Richie and Brian or a watch tonight's

602
00:41:06.920 --> 00:41:07.960
a peers to send a truck twenty
two. And again, like I said

603
00:41:07.960 --> 00:41:14.679
earlier, very beautiful Rick beautiful,
ric beauty. I put too much a

604
00:41:14.719 --> 00:41:16.159
point out. They bought that after
I was retired, so that's why,

605
00:41:21.360 --> 00:41:23.559
uh, what was it just we're
talking about the old what's the other one?

606
00:41:23.760 --> 00:41:29.639
How many is the other building still
around the Uh No, there's a

607
00:41:30.760 --> 00:41:35.440
firehouse on Spring Street that's still volunteer. But that's that goes back sens in

608
00:41:35.519 --> 00:41:39.519
the nineteen thirties, I think,
and our headquarters there's nineteen fifty nine.

609
00:41:40.480 --> 00:41:44.760
So the only the only thing left
that goes back to the eighteen hundreds is

610
00:41:44.800 --> 00:41:50.159
Hooking Liners building. It's my inhibition
to get a couple of million dollars making

611
00:41:50.239 --> 00:41:52.840
museum out of it. But just
having a trouble getting a couple of million

612
00:41:52.880 --> 00:41:55.400
dollars. All right, guys,
start with the stupid chat we've made.

613
00:41:55.440 --> 00:42:00.199
We raised a lot for. Let's
get somebody for Let's get some money to

614
00:42:00.360 --> 00:42:09.039
silly Willie. Oh you yeah,
Oh, I would like to buy it.

615
00:42:09.159 --> 00:42:15.320
Making a house bro the house on
a daily basis, how often are

616
00:42:15.320 --> 00:42:16.920
you doing stuff with the historic and
like, how often are you doing it?

617
00:42:17.280 --> 00:42:22.320
Every day? Are you doing it? I go in there three or

618
00:42:22.360 --> 00:42:25.719
four times a week. Maybe I
just did a presentation over the weekend on

619
00:42:27.360 --> 00:42:30.559
Saturday. Actually, Mike was nice
enough to come down and videotape, so

620
00:42:30.880 --> 00:42:37.519
I get a presentation for talking about
the historical library and Also, we have

621
00:42:37.679 --> 00:42:42.519
a a ladder wagon that was built
by our volunteers in the eighteen nineties.

622
00:42:42.519 --> 00:42:45.840
It's it's a model, a scale
model of their hand pulled apparatus that their

623
00:42:45.920 --> 00:42:51.920
kids used to pull in brains.
And I had pictures of it and it

624
00:42:52.039 --> 00:42:53.800
was missing for one hundred and twenty
years. We figured it just you know,

625
00:42:54.039 --> 00:42:58.199
somebody threw it away or it was
lost of time. And I stumbled

626
00:42:58.239 --> 00:43:00.840
upon it at a collector's house and
space and we took it. We hadn't

627
00:43:00.880 --> 00:43:07.639
refurbished, so I've been we just
got it back wore so it was really

628
00:43:07.599 --> 00:43:09.920
it's quite the story. If you
guys had a couple more hours, i'd

629
00:43:09.920 --> 00:43:13.719
tell you the whole thing. Um, you know, we gotta we gotta

630
00:43:13.719 --> 00:43:16.800
refurbished, and it's it's beautiful.
And I told the whole story on Saturday,

631
00:43:17.599 --> 00:43:21.280
and I actually, you know,
shout out to Jason Patton. I

632
00:43:21.360 --> 00:43:24.360
know he was not on the show
Fire Up and he saw it on Instagram

633
00:43:24.440 --> 00:43:29.079
and right away it's you know,
Firehouse Coffee would like to send coffee to

634
00:43:29.119 --> 00:43:30.199
your event, and they did,
as I called it, coffee with the

635
00:43:30.280 --> 00:43:35.639
Historian, and that's pretty cool.
They sent they sent me coffee, so

636
00:43:35.719 --> 00:43:37.719
it was. It was really great. Well we'll have you know, listen,

637
00:43:37.760 --> 00:43:39.880
we're not I know, we're not
going to tell the full story like

638
00:43:39.960 --> 00:43:43.639
you said, because it was in
deep detail. But we're at about forty

639
00:43:43.679 --> 00:43:45.199
three minutes, so there's time if
you want to hit the key details of

640
00:43:45.320 --> 00:43:49.239
that story as you talked about in
your presentation, because you know, listen,

641
00:43:49.280 --> 00:43:52.199
it is, it really is at
the end a heartwarming story. Didn't

642
00:43:52.199 --> 00:43:53.599
start out that way, but it
had a nice conclusion. So feel free

643
00:43:53.599 --> 00:43:55.679
to hit on those details if you
want right now, because we got time.

644
00:43:57.119 --> 00:43:59.880
All right, I'll do it.
I'll do the reader's digest version.

645
00:44:00.039 --> 00:44:05.719
But the James Graham Hooking Ladder was
a company in the eighteen hundreds. They're

646
00:44:05.760 --> 00:44:07.239
the only company that doesn't still exist
in this day. They went out of

647
00:44:07.280 --> 00:44:13.559
business in nineteen o two. And
they're the members of that company built this

648
00:44:14.159 --> 00:44:15.840
model wagon for their kids, and
they would pull it in parades and at

649
00:44:15.880 --> 00:44:20.440
conventions, and they were pretty well
known for it. And I was at

650
00:44:20.480 --> 00:44:22.800
a collector's house and I was I
was talking to him. He was a

651
00:44:22.840 --> 00:44:27.159
friend of mine, and we were
making a deal on some memorabili or whatever,

652
00:44:27.639 --> 00:44:30.079
and we got talking about the James
Grahams. And I said to him,

653
00:44:30.079 --> 00:44:30.639
I said, how do you even
know who they are? You know,

654
00:44:30.719 --> 00:44:34.920
you're not from west Haven, and
he's from he's a volunteer in a

655
00:44:34.960 --> 00:44:37.960
neighboring town. And apparently when these
guys went out of business in nineteen o

656
00:44:38.119 --> 00:44:43.719
two, they sold their actual apparatus
to the East Haven Fire Department and that

657
00:44:43.880 --> 00:44:46.360
was their first piece, the first
piece of apparatus, And he had a

658
00:44:46.400 --> 00:44:50.760
picture of it and on the bottom
it said brought from the Grahams of West

659
00:44:50.840 --> 00:44:54.239
Haven. And the James Grahams were
kind of a hobby of mine because when

660
00:44:54.320 --> 00:44:57.599
they disbanded, they took all their
stuff with them, so we don't have

661
00:44:57.719 --> 00:45:00.239
the records, we don't have any
that stuff. I'm always looking for newspaper

662
00:45:00.360 --> 00:45:04.400
articles and information on them. So
then I said to him, I said,

663
00:45:04.440 --> 00:45:07.000
you know, it's funny. They
actually made a model for their kids

664
00:45:07.079 --> 00:45:09.239
in a game. It is funny. Look, he says, I want

665
00:45:09.280 --> 00:45:14.719
you to come downstairs in my basement
for a minute. Well, no,

666
00:45:16.400 --> 00:45:20.280
you go downstairs. And of course
this base is like a museum. It's

667
00:45:20.320 --> 00:45:22.960
full of stuff. And in the
corner is this thing. It looks like

668
00:45:22.000 --> 00:45:25.320
a pile of firewood. And it
turns out it's the ladder wagon. It

669
00:45:25.440 --> 00:45:30.880
was broken and half at all,
but he had all the original ladders and

670
00:45:30.920 --> 00:45:35.840
the stuff that went with How big
is this thing? Long? Oh?

671
00:45:35.920 --> 00:45:40.199
It is that big basement? Yeah? So, I mean it's not it's

672
00:45:40.239 --> 00:45:44.159
not a model model. I mean
it's it's it's you know, the fully

673
00:45:44.199 --> 00:45:47.880
functional ladder wagon, but it's it's
a scale model. You know what's crazy.

674
00:45:49.000 --> 00:45:51.159
You could have You could have been
in that guy's house and walked out

675
00:45:51.159 --> 00:45:53.119
of there and not even realized how
close you worked to that thing. Absolutely

676
00:45:53.239 --> 00:45:57.960
un Listen. I'm probably the only
guy in the world who would have recognized

677
00:45:58.000 --> 00:46:00.519
that thing for what it was,
because nobody knows who the James Rams are.

678
00:46:00.599 --> 00:46:01.880
It's just one of my hobbies.
You know. Even the guys in

679
00:46:01.960 --> 00:46:05.519
my department have never heard of him. He went out of business one hundred

680
00:46:05.519 --> 00:46:08.639
and twenty years ago, so we
guard it from him, and I convinced

681
00:46:08.679 --> 00:46:13.360
my commissioners to buy it, and
I sent it up to a guy named

682
00:46:13.360 --> 00:46:16.880
Andy Swift in Maine at Firefly Restorations, and he had it for a year

683
00:46:16.880 --> 00:46:21.840
and a half and he put it
all back together and I had pictures of

684
00:46:21.960 --> 00:46:24.840
it. I passured pictures of the
kids. And when I when I was

685
00:46:24.880 --> 00:46:30.000
looking around for somebody to do the
restoration, somebody mentioned him and they said,

686
00:46:30.039 --> 00:46:31.400
listen, you could call him,
but he's not going to do I

687
00:46:31.480 --> 00:46:37.880
mean, this guy does real museum
pieces and you know, horse drawn steamers

688
00:46:37.000 --> 00:46:42.519
and all kind He's got the Lady
Washington hand pumper from Manhattan from eighteen thirty

689
00:46:42.559 --> 00:46:45.400
five's restoring all these things. He's
like the best in the business. So

690
00:46:45.519 --> 00:46:49.199
I sent him an email and I
sent him pictures of the kids pulling the

691
00:46:49.239 --> 00:46:52.559
thing in a parade, and he
called me in a phoney of email.

692
00:46:52.599 --> 00:46:55.280
Me backs Bill's I said, hey, he goes, we have to do

693
00:46:55.360 --> 00:46:58.559
this job. I just talked to
my people that can't wait to work on

694
00:46:58.679 --> 00:47:04.159
him, like really about it.
The kids sold its seeing those kids pulled

695
00:47:04.159 --> 00:47:07.320
out thing. We have to do
it. And he did a fantastic job.

696
00:47:07.400 --> 00:47:09.599
I mean he took those pictures apart
and he found all these details.

697
00:47:09.639 --> 00:47:14.239
I didn't even see how much of
it was did he have to improvise and

698
00:47:14.320 --> 00:47:16.639
how much was there did he have
to was the whole thing? A lot

699
00:47:16.679 --> 00:47:20.519
of it was there, but we
had to replace the lanterns. Its little

700
00:47:20.559 --> 00:47:25.119
lanterns on there's a parade lantern that
goes on top. He says, my

701
00:47:25.239 --> 00:47:29.840
friend saw Damyers a metal spinner.
So I said, what the metal spinner.

702
00:47:30.360 --> 00:47:32.920
He goes, he's gonna fabricate the
lanterns and the torches, the prey

703
00:47:34.039 --> 00:47:36.320
torches. I said, oh,
he goes, we got to do it

704
00:47:36.400 --> 00:47:37.400
quick. Though he's eighty six.
I don't know how long he's gonna la

705
00:47:40.960 --> 00:47:46.639
actually created these uh you know,
created these uh you know the lanterns and

706
00:47:46.719 --> 00:47:52.159
the prey, the miniature of Parde
torches and two small little extinguishers that went

707
00:47:52.199 --> 00:47:54.760
on the side. What what year
is this bill? What year is this

708
00:47:54.840 --> 00:47:59.840
that you found it? I was
made in the eighteen nineties. Now what

709
00:48:00.519 --> 00:48:06.920
find it in the guy's basement?
Uh? Probably twenty nineteen. And then

710
00:48:06.960 --> 00:48:10.639
he got it back to you when
just this past December. Oh wow,

711
00:48:10.840 --> 00:48:14.320
man, you should have said pictures
of app bro that would be great,

712
00:48:15.440 --> 00:48:19.559
might find out on the internet.
Will you come on, I'm looking for

713
00:48:19.599 --> 00:48:21.800
give the background noise. I'm looking
right now to see if we can find

714
00:48:21.880 --> 00:48:23.519
Jane. And it was in your
presentation too, which again the story behind

715
00:48:23.599 --> 00:48:25.480
it. I'm glad you got into
it. Is I'm like, we have

716
00:48:25.679 --> 00:48:29.960
time and we should hear about it. You know, small world everything right

717
00:48:30.000 --> 00:48:35.159
there, something like that. Absolutely, there's so many guys who collect this

718
00:48:35.360 --> 00:48:38.119
type of memorabilia, like awesome.
The thing went from being a you know,

719
00:48:38.239 --> 00:48:42.199
like I said, almost the pilot
fire it's it's now it's a priceless

720
00:48:42.280 --> 00:48:45.039
museum piece really, and then not
just that, but it's even more priceless

721
00:48:45.079 --> 00:48:50.760
to us because it's ours, you
know, our guys made it. Yeah.

722
00:48:51.000 --> 00:48:54.000
Right, this is my captain,
Jacob Urban. Thanks for watching,

723
00:48:54.079 --> 00:48:57.679
cap. I appreciate it. Hope
all as well. Did the James Grahams

724
00:48:57.679 --> 00:49:00.079
have a fire dog? He wants
to know. I don't think so.

725
00:49:00.800 --> 00:49:07.559
Ah, question too, Where is
the piece now? Bill? Uh,

726
00:49:07.719 --> 00:49:12.679
it's it's actually in a firehouse on
on Spring Street. I got it.

727
00:49:12.760 --> 00:49:17.559
It's got a special crate that it
goes in. And uh, it's parade

728
00:49:17.599 --> 00:49:21.920
now in in West Haven, I
believe in Spring Street we have that.

729
00:49:22.039 --> 00:49:23.039
And we have a couple of spars
too. We have an antique that we

730
00:49:23.119 --> 00:49:27.159
bring out for parades and whatnot,
but that one, yeah, I mean.

731
00:49:27.679 --> 00:49:30.400
And also you know, also one
thing that I think we should touch

732
00:49:30.440 --> 00:49:31.719
on at some point when it's appropriate, Bill, is those helmets we were

733
00:49:31.719 --> 00:49:35.679
able to get a hold of two
besides the James Graham because those helmets we're

734
00:49:35.719 --> 00:49:37.079
gonna get lost and we're gonna get
sold. But we were able to get

735
00:49:37.159 --> 00:49:39.519
them back. So I know,
I think you're looking for the picture right

736
00:49:39.559 --> 00:49:43.599
now, the hook and ladder.
I thought I had one right right on

737
00:49:43.679 --> 00:49:45.440
my phone, but it's in your
presentation. I'll try to load it in

738
00:49:45.559 --> 00:49:47.800
later if I can. But there's
also the story of the helmets, if

739
00:49:47.840 --> 00:49:51.800
you want to touch on that too. Oh yeah, you know, we're

740
00:49:51.840 --> 00:49:53.719
always looking for stuff, and um, you know, I travel on a

741
00:49:53.800 --> 00:49:59.320
lot of circles, you know,
memorabilia collectors, badge collectors, old fire

742
00:49:59.360 --> 00:50:05.599
department ratis and members of I go
out to the New York City Fire Museum.

743
00:50:06.480 --> 00:50:09.400
We have a couple of historical societies
in Connecticut, and I'm the West

744
00:50:09.440 --> 00:50:13.360
Haven guy, and everybody has their
niche. My friend Steve's the New Haven

745
00:50:13.440 --> 00:50:17.760
guy, my friend Brads from Albany, Gary's New London and Hartford. Everybody

746
00:50:17.840 --> 00:50:22.760
has their little sort of expertise,
you know. So when something pops up,

747
00:50:22.800 --> 00:50:24.639
we call each other. And I
got this phone call. It's listen,

748
00:50:24.679 --> 00:50:29.360
there's there's an auction in Vermont and
they have a whole bunch of stuff

749
00:50:29.360 --> 00:50:31.199
from your department. So I went
on. I looked, and sure enough

750
00:50:31.280 --> 00:50:36.239
there's two of these these white chief
helmets. Their old Carnes five a's from

751
00:50:36.239 --> 00:50:40.039
about fifty years ago, and they
belonged to Chief Howell, who was chief

752
00:50:40.079 --> 00:50:44.840
from seventy one to eighty one in
my department. So I got on.

753
00:50:45.000 --> 00:50:45.920
I got a hold of the guy. I was in Los Angeles at the

754
00:50:46.000 --> 00:50:49.880
time. I said, listen,
you know you're gonna have a thing online

755
00:50:49.920 --> 00:50:52.559
for this. He goes, Bill, I'm in a VFW in Maybury.

756
00:50:52.679 --> 00:50:55.280
I mean, he's podun Vermont.
There's no online here. He goes,

757
00:50:55.760 --> 00:51:00.960
you can call him the phone.
So I did a phone and I was

758
00:51:00.000 --> 00:51:05.119
bidding on these helmets, and of
course the call drops. By the time

759
00:51:05.159 --> 00:51:08.320
I called back, they were gone. Oh that sucks. I told the

760
00:51:08.360 --> 00:51:10.400
guy, I said, listen,
can you give the guy who bought the

761
00:51:10.440 --> 00:51:14.159
helmets my number? I'll buy him
from him, you know or what I'm

762
00:51:14.199 --> 00:51:20.400
making the deal, and of course
called me. So about a few months

763
00:51:20.480 --> 00:51:22.559
goes by, I get another call. Hey, tho's helmets run an eBay

764
00:51:22.719 --> 00:51:27.079
Like no way, So I go
up on eBay and the auction's gone.

765
00:51:27.639 --> 00:51:29.639
So I get a hold of the
seller. I said, what happened?

766
00:51:29.639 --> 00:51:31.239
He goes out, I sold him
privately. Somebody contacted me, like damn

767
00:51:31.280 --> 00:51:37.880
it twice. So now a third
time that happens again. And my friend

768
00:51:37.960 --> 00:51:42.159
Steve calls me and he says,
I know who's got the helmets. It's

769
00:51:42.199 --> 00:51:45.079
this guy in California. He's a
friend of mine. Here's his number.

770
00:51:45.599 --> 00:51:46.760
I said, okay, So I
called him and I ended up making a

771
00:51:46.840 --> 00:51:52.239
deal with the kid, and I
got the helmet. And as I'm going

772
00:51:52.320 --> 00:51:53.920
back and forth with him, you
know, I had an introduction. I

773
00:51:54.000 --> 00:51:58.480
told him I'm the historian and the
department, and he's being a little stand

774
00:51:58.559 --> 00:52:01.119
office, you know, and we're
trying to negotiate a price, and he

775
00:52:01.199 --> 00:52:05.039
finally says to me, says,
listen, how do we even know you're

776
00:52:05.039 --> 00:52:08.920
a historian. I'm like, oh, all right. He thinks I'm scamming

777
00:52:09.000 --> 00:52:12.320
him and that I'm going to try
to get a deal on these things and

778
00:52:12.400 --> 00:52:15.320
make a profit on it. When
I was sworn in, they put my

779
00:52:15.360 --> 00:52:19.320
picture on the front page of the
paper, big article. So I sent

780
00:52:19.400 --> 00:52:22.280
that to him, and his attitude
changed like one hundred and eighty degrees,

781
00:52:22.360 --> 00:52:25.960
you know, because in our circles
when the collectors, if you're a historian

782
00:52:27.039 --> 00:52:30.239
or if you're a curator, you're
kind of an important guy. You know,

783
00:52:30.400 --> 00:52:34.239
you come in a little bit of
respect. And he was. He

784
00:52:34.400 --> 00:52:37.119
was actually very happy. He made
a deal and he found a second helmet

785
00:52:37.159 --> 00:52:38.960
for me. Knew where it was. Got that and I got both helmets

786
00:52:39.719 --> 00:52:44.679
and in our collection or my collection
until I get reimbursed for him. I

787
00:52:44.719 --> 00:52:47.360
guess I was gonna say to you, like, do you have your own

788
00:52:47.400 --> 00:52:51.199
private collection and stuff that you collect? To Oh, I do, yeah,

789
00:52:51.880 --> 00:52:53.519
Like what's that? What's some of
the stuff that you collect? If

790
00:52:53.559 --> 00:53:01.320
you look over my shoulder, I
collect fire badgers, badges from just west

791
00:53:01.400 --> 00:53:06.800
Haven or from all over. I
concentrate on west Haven, New Haven next

792
00:53:06.840 --> 00:53:09.119
door. I got some old New
York stuff, a lot of Connecticut stuff.

793
00:53:09.159 --> 00:53:13.360
But the two cases that around my
wall here in the office, I've

794
00:53:13.360 --> 00:53:15.360
got a badgel each state in the
United States. I go from every state.

795
00:53:15.800 --> 00:53:19.199
Oh, that's pretty cool. What
all the stuff do you collect?

796
00:53:19.320 --> 00:53:22.280
Sus badges? Well, anything that's
west Haven? Um, you know,

797
00:53:22.320 --> 00:53:27.199
I I said, my focus is
badges, but I've got some prey belts,

798
00:53:27.239 --> 00:53:30.280
I have some helmets. Um,
you know, a lot of memorabilia.

799
00:53:31.000 --> 00:53:34.960
My historical library that I'm in charge
of. You know, we've got

800
00:53:35.400 --> 00:53:40.840
ten thousand photographs going back to the
eighteen hundreds, documents, and we keep

801
00:53:40.920 --> 00:53:45.880
track of all the stuff that happens
currently. You know, any newspaper articles

802
00:53:45.920 --> 00:53:51.320
and stuff that goes on, we
download and see those in our archives and

803
00:53:52.320 --> 00:53:54.119
do nothing. You can't do nothing
like with the mayor of this, you

804
00:53:54.159 --> 00:53:59.280
know, like maybe they have a
building that they would donate to, you

805
00:53:59.360 --> 00:54:01.280
know, start a museum or something
like that. Well, we had we

806
00:54:01.400 --> 00:54:06.519
had what was called the Savin Rock
Museum, and that was kind of un

807
00:54:06.559 --> 00:54:09.400
that amusement park that I told you
about. We had a firehouse and at

808
00:54:09.440 --> 00:54:15.400
the amusement park Salvin Rock House,
and we had our own little room full

809
00:54:15.400 --> 00:54:19.079
of fire memorabilia in there. And
they're in the process of tearing up,

810
00:54:19.119 --> 00:54:22.039
building down and building something else there. So we moved everything into storage.

811
00:54:22.840 --> 00:54:27.480
We do have another spot, we
just need to do some work to it

812
00:54:27.679 --> 00:54:30.960
and move a couple of walls and
that type of thing. So the city

813
00:54:30.039 --> 00:54:34.639
did give us space. That's good. The department is going to take a

814
00:54:34.719 --> 00:54:39.719
little larger role. It's gonna be
like half fire department and half art stuff

815
00:54:39.840 --> 00:54:45.480
if I had my way, But
they're gonna tad down the old firehouse.

816
00:54:45.239 --> 00:54:47.880
Nah. It was. It was
a city building, was a conference center,

817
00:54:47.960 --> 00:54:52.320
but it kind of run down.
We had the spot in the basement.

818
00:54:52.360 --> 00:54:54.320
It was. It was. It
was kind of one of those things

819
00:54:54.400 --> 00:54:59.480
where you can go in from two
different sides. It was like a duplex,

820
00:55:00.000 --> 00:55:01.800
so like you walk straight into the
basement on one side, straight into

821
00:55:01.840 --> 00:55:06.880
the first floor on the inside.
So we had the front basement park for

822
00:55:07.639 --> 00:55:12.599
the museum. You know, It's
funny. Since week we started the podcast,

823
00:55:13.599 --> 00:55:15.880
now I get guys will will message
us, you know, either on

824
00:55:15.960 --> 00:55:19.280
Instagram or something Facebook, and they'll
say, hey, listen, you know,

825
00:55:19.320 --> 00:55:21.960
I don't know who if you wanted
to get in touch with the firehouse.

826
00:55:22.039 --> 00:55:27.440
But let's say fifty eight engine,
there's a fire helmet on eBay for

827
00:55:27.599 --> 00:55:30.760
sale from the FDN, Y right, guys, you know. So then

828
00:55:30.079 --> 00:55:32.000
I'm like, all right, you
know, So then I'll look it up

829
00:55:32.079 --> 00:55:36.440
quick and then I'll call the firehouse. I'll be like, you know something,

830
00:55:36.559 --> 00:55:37.199
I don't know who the guy is. I'm like, hey, dude,

831
00:55:37.239 --> 00:55:40.960
listen, somebody just you know,
message me what I used to work

832
00:55:42.239 --> 00:55:44.760
on the job. I just want
to let you notice a fifty eight fire

833
00:55:44.840 --> 00:55:45.920
helmet, you know, take it
for what it's worked. I don't know

834
00:55:45.920 --> 00:55:49.360
if you guys are interested in buying
it for the house or whatever. Just

835
00:55:49.719 --> 00:55:52.239
I don't know whose it was.
It's just on eBay if you're interested.

836
00:55:52.559 --> 00:55:54.719
And every once in a while,
the guy I'll text me back, or

837
00:55:55.159 --> 00:55:58.239
you know, I'll swap numbers with
the guy and he'll text me back.

838
00:55:58.239 --> 00:56:01.760
So if you bought it or it
or sold by the time the guys to

839
00:56:02.239 --> 00:56:05.480
to get it, you know,
sometimes there's not much time, you know

840
00:56:05.519 --> 00:56:07.119
what I mean, Sometimes there's only
a couple of hours left or whatever.

841
00:56:08.960 --> 00:56:13.119
I get calls all the time and
substance on eBay. But even at that

842
00:56:13.199 --> 00:56:15.039
auction. Never mind it was the
chief daughter, but all this stuff.

843
00:56:15.320 --> 00:56:19.199
She must have been cleaning out the
attic or something. Right, he passed

844
00:56:19.199 --> 00:56:22.639
away a few years ago. It's
like, why didn't you just call me?

845
00:56:22.800 --> 00:56:24.280
My father in law was his deputy
for years, you know, and

846
00:56:25.239 --> 00:56:29.760
you know i'd met her, you
know, I have kids, have friendly

847
00:56:29.760 --> 00:56:34.679
with um. You know. It
was just, uh, call the firehouse.

848
00:56:34.920 --> 00:56:37.400
Well, you know you need money, we'll buy the stuff from you.

849
00:56:37.440 --> 00:56:39.280
We'd rather have it, you know. Yeah, yeah, at home,

850
00:56:39.400 --> 00:56:43.119
we say in the collecting circles,
we want to bring bring our stuff

851
00:56:43.159 --> 00:56:46.920
home. Yeah. Absolutely, So
we're gonna do a show on. But

852
00:56:47.199 --> 00:56:50.920
I don't know if you know the
guys from Capital City who restore the fire

853
00:56:51.000 --> 00:56:57.039
helmets, Uh, we'll pall the
Connecticut from Harford had Shapiro family, the

854
00:56:57.079 --> 00:57:00.760
Shapiro family, Shapiros. Yeah.
So I brought my fall the helmet which

855
00:57:00.920 --> 00:57:02.920
had a giant chunk of the leather
out of it, to restore it.

856
00:57:04.000 --> 00:57:07.360
We did a whole show on bringing
it to them, and they're going to

857
00:57:07.400 --> 00:57:08.679
film how they restore the helmet.
But when I brought it to him,

858
00:57:09.199 --> 00:57:13.400
my dad got out in nineteen sixties. But he told me that that helmet

859
00:57:13.519 --> 00:57:16.000
was from my nineteen thirty. I
guess by this something and saw it like

860
00:57:16.079 --> 00:57:20.639
how could that be? But he
said that sometimes when guys would turn the

861
00:57:20.679 --> 00:57:22.800
helmets, they would recirculate the helmets. I don't know if you know anything

862
00:57:22.840 --> 00:57:27.000
about that, Is that true or
have you ever heard of that? Well?

863
00:57:27.079 --> 00:57:31.360
I know like recently you know that. I say recently that the past

864
00:57:31.440 --> 00:57:35.119
few years, Like you know,
you can't hand your stuff down anymore.

865
00:57:35.280 --> 00:57:37.679
It's it's got a shuffle off ten
years or out. It doesn't matter if

866
00:57:37.719 --> 00:57:39.960
it's in the bag brand new.
And they started doing that with helmets,

867
00:57:40.480 --> 00:57:44.559
and especially some guys on your job. It's like, listen, I'm wearing

868
00:57:44.639 --> 00:57:46.719
my grandfather's helmet. You're not taking
this freakan helmet. You know, you're

869
00:57:46.760 --> 00:57:51.000
not giving me a new one.
So I guess they kind of got grandfathered

870
00:57:51.039 --> 00:57:52.840
in, so to speak. But
a lot of guys that wear their father's

871
00:57:52.880 --> 00:57:59.599
helmet or you know, some religis
our helmets are. You know, I've

872
00:57:59.599 --> 00:58:00.840
still got my helmets hanging out the
wall in my office. You know,

873
00:58:01.079 --> 00:58:04.239
you know you don't give that to
anybody. I mean you can't now,

874
00:58:04.360 --> 00:58:07.960
I mean unless your brand new or
something. And then right, you know,

875
00:58:12.000 --> 00:58:15.760
been an officer with a new helmet
for a short time, but I

876
00:58:15.800 --> 00:58:17.800
mean, you're not going to wear
somebody else's helmet unless it was your dad

877
00:58:17.960 --> 00:58:22.760
or something. When that went to
the UH, to the fiberglass helmet,

878
00:58:22.800 --> 00:58:27.760
did you turn your other one in? I don't. I bought mine,

879
00:58:28.199 --> 00:58:31.000
so that was always mine, so
I never had to buy it back.

880
00:58:31.079 --> 00:58:35.960
It was mine, I used,
I used, UH. We had gotten

881
00:58:36.000 --> 00:58:37.519
the check for that for that helmet. I think I was one of the

882
00:58:37.599 --> 00:58:42.719
last classes that actually bought the helmet, right so saying when they switched over,

883
00:58:42.920 --> 00:58:45.480
did you ever did you have a
go to Well, I didn't do

884
00:58:45.559 --> 00:58:49.840
it right away. I didn't do
when I first got the plastic I got.

885
00:58:49.920 --> 00:58:52.519
I ended up getting the plastic because
they could tell if you'd never picked

886
00:58:52.599 --> 00:58:54.119
up the plastic, so I would
get a letter, you know, the

887
00:58:54.239 --> 00:58:57.840
chief would told me, you know, the whole deal, and uh So

888
00:58:57.960 --> 00:59:00.440
I went and picked up the plastic, and then I had my new front

889
00:59:00.480 --> 00:59:04.239
shield. That's why both I have
two helmets with two front shields. So

890
00:59:04.320 --> 00:59:07.159
I wore a plastic for a while. Then I went back to the leather.

891
00:59:07.519 --> 00:59:08.960
But I'll tell you what happened.
Was I guess after I stopped using

892
00:59:09.000 --> 00:59:12.880
the leather for a little while,
it fit on my head a little different,

893
00:59:13.199 --> 00:59:17.800
you know, yea, And the
plastic helmet was so comfortable. And

894
00:59:17.880 --> 00:59:22.639
then by that time everybody was using
the plastic. Everybody was using the brand

895
00:59:22.719 --> 00:59:25.400
new stuff anyway, so it didn't
you know, I kind of felt like

896
00:59:25.639 --> 00:59:30.400
it fit perfect. You could ratchet
it back on the mask real fast,

897
00:59:30.679 --> 00:59:32.159
you know, I wouldn't lose my
helmet. I never wore a ginch strap,

898
00:59:32.280 --> 00:59:37.239
but the racket was pretty good,
and you know, then I just

899
00:59:37.400 --> 00:59:39.440
went. It was only like two
years that I had the plastica. I

900
00:59:39.519 --> 00:59:43.000
know, I know, CAUs had
that machine that they used to measure your

901
00:59:43.039 --> 00:59:45.599
head when you got into the job. And the thing would fit because I

902
00:59:45.679 --> 00:59:49.559
put my father's helmet off and it
wouldn't. I could bend over that way,

903
00:59:49.559 --> 00:59:52.559
it wouldn't fall off my head.
But nothing, no ratchet, no,

904
00:59:52.639 --> 00:59:54.119
nothing was fit perfect from my head. I started. We had a

905
00:59:54.199 --> 01:00:00.199
round Carnes, I don't I would
just flipped down visor and we went the

906
01:00:00.360 --> 01:00:05.159
Ben Franklin style or New Yorker style, and a couple of guys went out

907
01:00:05.159 --> 01:00:07.880
and bought leather helmets on their own, and I got the composite one.

908
01:00:08.320 --> 01:00:12.360
It's like, first of all,
the leather helmet weighs like ten times more.

909
01:00:12.400 --> 01:00:15.239
Oh my god, it's like you
can't move your head and that hurts.

910
01:00:15.599 --> 01:00:17.320
And the other thing was one of
the guys guys helmet stalling, and

911
01:00:17.400 --> 01:00:20.360
I was, oh, look at
a leather helmets. Somebody ripped them off

912
01:00:21.119 --> 01:00:23.760
shared out of the fire helmet.
Now it's like two grand oh yeah,

913
01:00:24.920 --> 01:00:28.519
so it's not if you can get
one, right, We talked to guys

914
01:00:28.559 --> 01:00:30.880
who sell helmets. They're so backlog, they're like a year behind. You

915
01:00:30.920 --> 01:00:36.480
can't even get big business, big
business. Before we continue, just to

916
01:00:36.519 --> 01:00:37.840
tie up a loose sent from earlier, I was able to find the James

917
01:00:37.920 --> 01:00:42.519
Graham hook and ladder because this was
in an article courtesy I believe the New

918
01:00:42.599 --> 01:00:45.000
Haven Registers, just to confirm if
it was the Richter No, actually west

919
01:00:45.039 --> 01:00:49.199
Haven Voice I stand corrected. That
was able to also take photos of your

920
01:00:49.239 --> 01:00:52.239
presentation, and here it is.
This is the old hooking ladder that we

921
01:00:52.280 --> 01:00:57.000
were able to get in our collection. That's cool. Imagine ryding jobs on

922
01:00:57.079 --> 01:01:01.239
that bad point and awesome. And
so's the green lantern, the green lantern?

923
01:01:01.440 --> 01:01:05.599
Yea, yeah, yeah. Andy
Swift was excited. He called me,

924
01:01:05.679 --> 01:01:07.119
so I found a green lantern.
I found a green lantern. So

925
01:01:07.280 --> 01:01:12.480
again, even though his story and
I said, what's the significance of that?

926
01:01:12.800 --> 01:01:16.639
He says, there's a louder company
before electricity. When you stood out

927
01:01:16.679 --> 01:01:20.239
in the street back in the eighteen
hundreds, the chief and looked down at

928
01:01:20.320 --> 01:01:22.840
nighttime, and if you saw green
and who was louder? If you saw

929
01:01:22.880 --> 01:01:25.679
a red lantern, it was an
engine and blew his hose. Of course,

930
01:01:25.760 --> 01:01:30.000
I'm pretty all but I always had
electricity when I worked, so we

931
01:01:30.039 --> 01:01:35.320
didn't have to worry about that and
what that would cost a story. I

932
01:01:35.440 --> 01:01:38.039
was just gonna ask that rof what
we can we tho, can we can

933
01:01:38.079 --> 01:01:42.800
we divulge that number? You're looking
at about twenty thousand dollars right there?

934
01:01:43.000 --> 01:01:46.320
Wow, just to restore it.
Huh. It's a lot of work.

935
01:01:46.639 --> 01:01:50.000
It's a lot of work. He
had it for a year and a half.

936
01:01:50.079 --> 01:01:52.880
But I mean it's it's just the
quality of the work he did and

937
01:01:52.960 --> 01:01:58.360
the ante it's just as beautiful,
absolutely well the arts. But he had

938
01:01:58.400 --> 01:02:02.039
to fabricate some of the One of
the brackets for the ladder was missing or

939
01:02:02.119 --> 01:02:07.239
broken. And you know the guy
who made those torches and the parade light

940
01:02:07.280 --> 01:02:09.760
that's on the top of you fabricated
those from scratch. You know, if

941
01:02:09.800 --> 01:02:14.760
you want to sell out for Bill, if you wanted to sell it tomorrow,

942
01:02:14.880 --> 01:02:15.920
I wanted to sell it. I'd
never sell it. No, if

943
01:02:15.920 --> 01:02:21.519
you if you want it, I
don't. I don't even have no idea.

944
01:02:21.559 --> 01:02:23.480
A lot more than twenty thousands,
yeah, I would say so that

945
01:02:23.960 --> 01:02:30.480
if you go to fire museums,
pretty popular to find a scale model either

946
01:02:30.519 --> 01:02:36.000
of a hand pumper or or some
kind of apparatus like that, you know

947
01:02:36.079 --> 01:02:37.880
from back in that time period.
We have two of them in the FDNY

948
01:02:38.000 --> 01:02:42.559
and at the Rock that I think
they got one out. They have two

949
01:02:42.599 --> 01:02:45.800
in the h they have two or
three in the auditorium, and then they

950
01:02:45.880 --> 01:02:50.639
have like two in the hole way
now that they added a couple. Yeah,

951
01:02:50.800 --> 01:02:54.039
but you know that I found a
newspaper article and it said, you

952
01:02:54.119 --> 01:02:57.599
know, I talked about that the
guys made it by hand, and the

953
01:02:57.679 --> 01:03:02.559
members of the company did it on
winter nights. A lot of stuff that's

954
01:03:02.599 --> 01:03:07.079
insane, treating a couple of points
maybe you know what I'm saying, Mike.

955
01:03:07.480 --> 01:03:13.760
A couple of points you got of
course, of course, and the

956
01:03:13.840 --> 01:03:15.760
type of another loose end from earlier. And I do want to get some

957
01:03:15.840 --> 01:03:17.280
pictures of some jobs that you were
on. Half. This is our truck

958
01:03:17.320 --> 01:03:20.880
twenty two. This is a new
one that we got not too long ago.

959
01:03:20.920 --> 01:03:22.119
And again, beautiful rig I got
the chance to ride on it,

960
01:03:22.199 --> 01:03:24.679
not the jobs, just around a
few times. I know. That's not

961
01:03:24.800 --> 01:03:29.840
the odd house there, No,
No, that's headquarters right there. Best

962
01:03:29.880 --> 01:03:32.360
place to work. Love, That's
how you work bike, and I love

963
01:03:32.440 --> 01:03:35.920
coming to work every day man,
or the days that I'm there, Man

964
01:03:37.880 --> 01:03:38.760
me, Yeah, No, I'm
in New Haven, I'm but I'm ten

965
01:03:38.800 --> 01:03:42.719
minutes from the fireouse, I'm by
by highway, I'm ten minutes and even

966
01:03:42.760 --> 01:03:45.719
without the high about only about fifteen
minutes from the fireout. So how'd you

967
01:03:45.760 --> 01:03:50.079
get that job? Again? May
have something to do with this show just

968
01:03:50.199 --> 01:03:53.159
saying allegedly, perhaps, But the
pictures I wanted to get to, amongst

969
01:03:53.199 --> 01:03:57.559
many others, is this is a
lot of roof ops. He of course,

970
01:03:57.639 --> 01:04:00.519
and this picture was the thumbnail.
So have you can take us through

971
01:04:00.559 --> 01:04:02.559
each jobs. We didn't want to
let this podcast pass without talking about fires

972
01:04:02.800 --> 01:04:08.920
or jobs? Is the jobs?
What's going on here? That that was

973
01:04:09.400 --> 01:04:15.199
transmission shop fire. It's on the
corner of David and Forest. There has

974
01:04:15.239 --> 01:04:17.519
been any of you guys, but
that was a hot August day. It's

975
01:04:17.519 --> 01:04:21.920
probably the hottest day I ever worked, and the fire got into it.

976
01:04:25.000 --> 01:04:29.800
Where I'm standing is the front.
It's almost like the where you're going to

977
01:04:29.920 --> 01:04:33.079
stand at the desk and do your
business with the The people in the back

978
01:04:33.199 --> 01:04:36.239
is where they actually did you know, they worked on cars and transmissions and

979
01:04:36.280 --> 01:04:42.519
stuff. It got up in the
roof and you know, we were up

980
01:04:42.559 --> 01:04:45.000
there. My friend Joji at Quinto
was with me. At one point we

981
01:04:45.119 --> 01:04:49.679
were cutting holes in the roof.
Um that you can see the bucket behind

982
01:04:49.719 --> 01:04:55.400
me. That's actually Allingtown's. H
Allingtown's one of the districts in town.

983
01:04:55.440 --> 01:05:01.519
They came in mutual aid and the
you know, he used their bucket truck.

984
01:05:02.679 --> 01:05:05.039
But it was it was it was
a hot day. It was really

985
01:05:05.119 --> 01:05:12.119
hot. Guys were dropping from from
the heat and dehydration. Just funny thing

986
01:05:12.159 --> 01:05:15.760
about this, this particular fires.
This was in two thousand and nine,

987
01:05:15.840 --> 01:05:20.840
I think, and it was right
about when social media was making its big

988
01:05:20.960 --> 01:05:26.400
debut, and this was the first
time that we had real time photos and

989
01:05:26.599 --> 01:05:30.440
videos. And my son had just
turned nine years old. It was his

990
01:05:30.559 --> 01:05:34.800
birthday actually, and he was watching
this either on television or on his computer

991
01:05:35.000 --> 01:05:39.480
as it was happening. And we
had never had that happen before. It

992
01:05:39.639 --> 01:05:43.719
was always see the pictures afterwards and
wait till the news, you know.

993
01:05:44.159 --> 01:05:46.239
But because of you know, Facebook
and that type of thing at the time,

994
01:05:47.440 --> 01:05:50.280
and that that kind of almost changed
the way we did things. Because

995
01:05:50.320 --> 01:05:54.239
you know, God forbid, disaster
struck and my kids watching me on TV.

996
01:05:54.519 --> 01:05:56.360
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you know, I

997
01:05:56.719 --> 01:06:00.039
never knew till I got homes Danny
Danny say in television it went Now it's

998
01:06:00.079 --> 01:06:09.239
impossible. It's enough. We're watching
the real time. Uh yeah. As

999
01:06:09.239 --> 01:06:13.199
a matter of fact, it is
good job. We did good there,

1000
01:06:13.440 --> 01:06:20.599
we did. And then we got
this one. Now that's say. Uh

1001
01:06:21.280 --> 01:06:26.880
that house was down right across from
Long Islands one on the water. Um

1002
01:06:27.119 --> 01:06:30.360
you can see it was kind of
boarded up, and I think, uh

1003
01:06:31.280 --> 01:06:36.880
at one point we put censors inside
this house for the NFPA or somebody,

1004
01:06:38.840 --> 01:06:44.159
and uh we ended up burning it
to the ground on purpose. Yeah,

1005
01:06:45.079 --> 01:06:47.800
but uh so I was up there
pulling a pulling the boards off to get

1006
01:06:47.840 --> 01:06:54.559
it going. What do you mean, like a practice thing. Yeah,

1007
01:06:54.719 --> 01:06:57.960
we were doing that. They were
doing some scientific study on So. I

1008
01:06:58.000 --> 01:07:01.039
don't remember exactly what kind of centers
we put in see how hot it got

1009
01:07:01.199 --> 01:07:04.639
or something like that, but that
was pretty much a control burn, though

1010
01:07:05.280 --> 01:07:10.000
I got Unlike Canada, you know, it didn't have the consequences that Canada

1011
01:07:10.039 --> 01:07:15.480
had with the controlled burn. That's
neither here North here about that. Uh,

1012
01:07:15.960 --> 01:07:16.840
you know, shout out to our
frens in Canada. Uh. And

1013
01:07:16.920 --> 01:07:20.760
then of course there's the third photo. What's going on here? Head that's

1014
01:07:20.800 --> 01:07:26.119
putting a new roof on my house? And disaster struck. Um. I

1015
01:07:26.480 --> 01:07:30.960
think where that was. That might
have been down in the Haven, Mike

1016
01:07:30.800 --> 01:07:38.519
Haven. Um, they were tearing
a bunch of houses down for for redevelopment.

1017
01:07:38.559 --> 01:07:41.840
It's kind of a very long,
sad story. But the funny part

1018
01:07:41.880 --> 01:07:45.119
about that's me with the red helmet
on. There was lieutenant and all of

1019
01:07:45.159 --> 01:07:47.800
a sudden, all the smoke started
pouring out, or like, where the

1020
01:07:47.840 --> 01:07:51.039
hell is the smoke coming from?
And I was leaning against a spotlight.

1021
01:07:51.119 --> 01:07:57.719
Someone turned a spotlight on it caught
my turnout pants on fire sounds lovely.

1022
01:08:00.000 --> 01:08:03.239
Lou loves cutting holes and peak rus
Right, Look, I don't mind it.

1023
01:08:05.320 --> 01:08:08.760
I was changing his mind all of
a sudden. Look at him.

1024
01:08:09.000 --> 01:08:12.760
That's not true. Sorry. If
you have eight guys show up to the

1025
01:08:12.840 --> 01:08:15.519
fire and seven of them are on
the roof, then I have a problem

1026
01:08:15.519 --> 01:08:17.199
with it. Right, And no
windows are taken, that's even more of

1027
01:08:17.239 --> 01:08:23.039
a problem. Huh. And those
are taken? Yeah, yeah, nobody

1028
01:08:23.079 --> 01:08:26.600
takes any glass. Nobody said nobody. I just like busted his balls.

1029
01:08:26.600 --> 01:08:29.600
I got him, Mike So we
had a time where it was like taboo

1030
01:08:29.680 --> 01:08:34.760
to break a window. I really
my guy who broke that window and firefighter

1031
01:08:34.840 --> 01:08:41.920
and Keith was a very unimposing man. It was kind of a straight man

1032
01:08:42.119 --> 01:08:48.439
and you know very you know Stowick, and we had a bad fire in

1033
01:08:48.479 --> 01:08:51.199
the house and we're crawling around.
Andy Bennett was with us, Uh,

1034
01:08:51.720 --> 01:08:56.760
Mike here, Lieutenant Bennett for he
it was Lieutenant Bennett. We're calling around.

1035
01:08:56.800 --> 01:08:59.960
We can't find any It smokes down
to the floor. So I turned

1036
01:09:00.079 --> 01:09:04.159
the Posner and I said, going
into the living room and break every fucking

1037
01:09:04.199 --> 01:09:08.760
window you can find. If anyone
says anything to you, you tell him

1038
01:09:08.960 --> 01:09:13.479
feutena Halfer had told you to break
every fucking wander. We does and we

1039
01:09:13.560 --> 01:09:15.760
go. We find a fire was
in the basement. We found a way

1040
01:09:15.800 --> 01:09:20.079
down the fire out. So we're
having a critique and my nemesis was deputy

1041
01:09:20.159 --> 01:09:23.960
chief at the time, and he
was running the critique even though he wasn't

1042
01:09:23.960 --> 01:09:28.000
at the fire, like, you
know, who broke the livery room window?

1043
01:09:28.079 --> 01:09:30.439
Who broke the livery room window?
And Keith Poser said that was me,

1044
01:09:30.600 --> 01:09:34.199
Deputy. He goes, why did
you break them? To pitch your

1045
01:09:34.239 --> 01:09:38.239
window in the living room. He
said, lieutena halford and told me to

1046
01:09:38.279 --> 01:09:43.359
break every fucking winder I could find. No we know what to do?

1047
01:09:44.359 --> 01:09:48.560
What had a problem breaking windows?
Really as there was a thing for a

1048
01:09:48.600 --> 01:09:51.640
while I was, I don't break
the windows. I'm like, the window

1049
01:09:51.720 --> 01:09:55.800
costs ten cents. The tourist companies
gonna pin him in the window whether we

1050
01:09:55.840 --> 01:09:59.479
break it or not. To him, melted, I can't see. I

1051
01:09:59.600 --> 01:10:01.439
need you to ventilate, ventilate,
break the window. You know. I

1052
01:10:01.520 --> 01:10:05.039
don't understand it, but that was
that was the thing for a while.

1053
01:10:05.359 --> 01:10:09.960
I don't. Okay, well I
understand going up there. You're not gonna

1054
01:10:10.000 --> 01:10:12.760
run up there and break every window
if you don't have a line operation or

1055
01:10:12.760 --> 01:10:15.760
anything. But we couldn't. At
the same time, if you gotta if

1056
01:10:15.800 --> 01:10:19.279
you're search it in your you know, from the fire, you gotta find

1057
01:10:19.319 --> 01:10:24.560
the way down to the basement home
water back door. It was the wrong

1058
01:10:24.600 --> 01:10:28.399
way to go. What are you
doing? What? I never know what

1059
01:10:28.439 --> 01:10:32.720
you're doing up there? How'd you
like the red helmet? Hey? Yeah,

1060
01:10:33.479 --> 01:10:38.720
all right, helmets are great.
Everyone knows who you are, all

1061
01:10:38.760 --> 01:10:41.560
right. That's a good way to
stand down right, It's a good identifying

1062
01:10:42.520 --> 01:10:45.520
that maybe you can poke a chief
in the chest and he would know who

1063
01:10:45.520 --> 01:10:54.439
you ought to right right of those, I love you. If we didn't

1064
01:10:54.479 --> 01:10:56.079
do it, you wouldn't know.
I wouldn't love you. What do you

1065
01:10:56.159 --> 01:10:58.720
got, Mike? We got a
picture I didn't mean interrupt my apologies.

1066
01:10:58.720 --> 01:11:00.760
We got a picture here of house
the out housing question. This is this?

1067
01:11:01.159 --> 01:11:03.039
This is five headquarters where I got
this? Right? Half? For

1068
01:11:03.079 --> 01:11:05.960
am I not? That's the one
Stephen Hights, Stephen Hins, there you

1069
01:11:06.039 --> 01:11:09.319
going? You know, also in
our district there's Engine twenty five, the

1070
01:11:10.840 --> 01:11:15.720
yep, yep, that's his home
right there. It's either Greenwood Lake or

1071
01:11:15.760 --> 01:11:18.479
the outt house. That's what I'm
saying. Easy set up. You got

1072
01:11:18.520 --> 01:11:21.279
guys on the engine, like Half
said earlier, about three guys, and

1073
01:11:21.399 --> 01:11:24.479
we see them on the chart too, and they're not too far from us.

1074
01:11:24.520 --> 01:11:27.560
Half, what you know, they're
about five minutes from from headquarters.

1075
01:11:28.279 --> 01:11:30.720
Yeah, short ride on over.
They got to fly over and help us

1076
01:11:30.760 --> 01:11:32.640
out on jobs. They can really
a lot of the guys that work there

1077
01:11:32.680 --> 01:11:36.000
also work at us the headquarters.
To do you have everyone area response and

1078
01:11:36.079 --> 01:11:40.239
it's a lot of apartment buildings and
stuff, so you know, they said,

1079
01:11:40.439 --> 01:11:42.239
go up to you know, we
call it up on a hill.

1080
01:11:42.520 --> 01:11:44.359
I go up on a hill.
It's nothing to do, I said,

1081
01:11:44.560 --> 01:11:48.079
until something that comes in and you're
the first one there. No, it's

1082
01:11:48.119 --> 01:11:51.920
not just a three three story wood
house. It's where's the connection, where's

1083
01:11:51.920 --> 01:11:57.199
the panel? There's some some of
them still have the old hose closets in

1084
01:11:57.279 --> 01:12:00.439
them and all the standpipes, and
you know, you have to know your

1085
01:12:00.760 --> 01:12:03.439
know your area, you know.
So it's still a great place. You're

1086
01:12:03.439 --> 01:12:09.359
in charge. So it looks like
you did almost what twenty seven years in

1087
01:12:09.439 --> 01:12:14.039
the paid YEP said, what'd you
retell? You? It was just time

1088
01:12:14.239 --> 01:12:17.479
or I always said I wanted to
do thirty years, but COVID reared its

1089
01:12:17.560 --> 01:12:21.640
ugly head. Oh. I was
trying back and forth to Los Angeles to

1090
01:12:21.760 --> 01:12:27.159
work on the show, and California
turned red. It was a red state

1091
01:12:27.439 --> 01:12:31.920
with COVID. And what happened was
my department had a policy where if you

1092
01:12:32.079 --> 01:12:39.039
returned from a red state, you
had a quarantine for fourteen days. So

1093
01:12:39.159 --> 01:12:43.520
I went out to California for a
week. I come back. I got

1094
01:12:43.640 --> 01:12:45.600
to take two more weeks off.
But I can't use my sick time because

1095
01:12:45.760 --> 01:12:51.600
I chose to go to California,
so I didn't have enough time to do

1096
01:12:51.760 --> 01:12:55.479
to quarantine, go back to you
know. I flew back and four three

1097
01:12:55.520 --> 01:13:00.359
or four times during the season,
you know, and so I was out

1098
01:13:00.399 --> 01:13:02.720
of luck, and I tried to
try to get time off. I tried

1099
01:13:02.760 --> 01:13:05.840
to take non paid leave, and
there was just no way I could do

1100
01:13:05.960 --> 01:13:09.720
it. So I just put my
papers and I had enough time, and

1101
01:13:09.960 --> 01:13:14.039
I called my chief Jimmy, you
know i'd be great friends for years,

1102
01:13:14.640 --> 01:13:16.600
called it from the airport as less
I'm coming home from Los Angeles and put

1103
01:13:16.680 --> 01:13:19.760
my papers in. He said,
yeah, right, hung up on me.

1104
01:13:25.359 --> 01:13:27.800
You don't believe me. He goes, well, because you know we're

1105
01:13:27.840 --> 01:13:30.119
kind of t two jokesters, you
know, and you know we've known each

1106
01:13:30.119 --> 01:13:32.680
other so long. But I did. I put my papers in, and

1107
01:13:32.720 --> 01:13:35.359
then I just went back to Los
Angeles for the next three months in the

1108
01:13:35.399 --> 01:13:40.159
film, so I kind of made
my decision for me, and I was

1109
01:13:40.199 --> 01:13:43.720
all maxed out my pension and there's
really no reason for me to stay,

1110
01:13:43.920 --> 01:13:46.159
you know, right, So I
didn't want to ask you about if I

1111
01:13:46.239 --> 01:13:50.239
could just interjected your real quick coops, because we didn't touch on this earlier

1112
01:13:50.279 --> 01:13:53.039
and we could touch on, of
course, some of the other stuff that

1113
01:13:53.119 --> 01:13:56.680
you've done. He did go down
to ground zero after nine eleven? Would

1114
01:13:56.720 --> 01:13:59.680
the other guys from West Haven?
And I think some of the guys would

1115
01:13:59.680 --> 01:14:00.960
tell me earlier was you and a
few other guys that you can name and

1116
01:14:01.039 --> 01:14:05.119
you can discuss. So were you
were you working that day of the attack?

1117
01:14:05.159 --> 01:14:08.720
And when did you and the rest
of the crew get down to the

1118
01:14:08.760 --> 01:14:12.840
trade center. Some of the guys
went that night, you know, on

1119
01:14:13.000 --> 01:14:15.399
the eleventh. I didn't go down
until a couple of days later. It

1120
01:14:15.520 --> 01:14:17.560
was the same day the president was
there. I think we went down on

1121
01:14:17.600 --> 01:14:19.880
the fourteenth, so I think I
was on ship. We were still working

1122
01:14:19.920 --> 01:14:27.399
three hund three off. But a
funny story, our chief for better for

1123
01:14:27.600 --> 01:14:30.279
forbid, everybody from Gold he said, you know you'll be fired if you

1124
01:14:30.319 --> 01:14:31.560
get down it, and we're like, we have to go. How can

1125
01:14:31.600 --> 01:14:33.920
we not go right here? You
know, it's the biggest thing that's ever

1126
01:14:33.960 --> 01:14:38.520
happened in the history of history.
And of course there you know he's thinking,

1127
01:14:38.600 --> 01:14:41.560
workman's con I wonder if you get
hurt and all that stuff. So

1128
01:14:41.720 --> 01:14:45.039
one of our captains called the news
and said, I got a crew of

1129
01:14:45.079 --> 01:14:48.159
guys and we're going down to the
ground zero to help the guys in New

1130
01:14:48.239 --> 01:14:53.199
York. And they called my chief
for a comment, and it's the only

1131
01:14:53.319 --> 01:14:59.159
thing he could say was I would
expect no less of my men. But

1132
01:14:59.279 --> 01:15:04.079
we went and uh the deputy chief. Some of us were leaving at like

1133
01:15:04.199 --> 01:15:08.239
five in the morning one day and
the deputy chief from it from a neighboring

1134
01:15:08.399 --> 01:15:11.920
district was in the park a lot
with the clipport and I told the guys

1135
01:15:11.920 --> 01:15:15.640
to listen, your chiefs over there, he's writing everybody's name down. You

1136
01:15:15.680 --> 01:15:18.479
guys are gonna get fired. We'll
see about that. And when we left,

1137
01:15:18.600 --> 01:15:24.439
he went with us through. Are
you how old you go down there?

1138
01:15:24.520 --> 01:15:27.079
For? I was only down it
for a day? You know,

1139
01:15:27.159 --> 01:15:33.520
we was mile um. You know, it's almost think was it was.

1140
01:15:33.880 --> 01:15:36.119
It was horrific. It was like
nothing ever saw it. You know.

1141
01:15:38.439 --> 01:15:42.800
We had a guy named Eddie Burrowell
who worked in which is his town right

1142
01:15:42.840 --> 01:15:45.199
next to west Haven, and he
was teaching at the academy and got a

1143
01:15:45.279 --> 01:15:48.520
job at the f d N Y. I don't think to nowhere where he

1144
01:15:48.640 --> 01:15:54.119
was stationed. But coincidentally we got
down there and I ran into him.

1145
01:15:54.159 --> 01:15:58.279
He standing in front of the ten
ten and just like we couldn't even talk.

1146
01:15:58.359 --> 01:16:00.119
You know, again, you got
to call home. He had n't

1147
01:16:00.119 --> 01:16:02.319
called his house. Nobody even kne
if he was alive, you know,

1148
01:16:02.960 --> 01:16:05.960
so you got to call your family, call your family, telling me everything's

1149
01:16:05.960 --> 01:16:09.960
all right. Just he wouldn't even
wouldn't even speak to me. It was

1150
01:16:10.000 --> 01:16:14.880
just like the Thousand Yards Stare,
you know. And it was just they

1151
01:16:14.960 --> 01:16:18.720
had lasers on the Millennium Hotel there
and it would move and the alarms would

1152
01:16:18.720 --> 01:16:23.159
go off. Everyone run down the
street and we'd run back. I was

1153
01:16:23.239 --> 01:16:26.800
with the demand who's the chief now? Jimmy O'Brien and I we were in

1154
01:16:26.840 --> 01:16:30.560
a bucket brigade and we went up
the pilot, you know, you kind

1155
01:16:30.600 --> 01:16:32.880
of shifted around. When we got
to the top, there was a couple

1156
01:16:32.920 --> 01:16:36.560
of New York guys and they said, you know, we're going over that

1157
01:16:36.680 --> 01:16:41.439
beam over there, and I guess
it hadn't been cleared by the engineers.

1158
01:16:41.840 --> 01:16:44.640
So we just jumped over this beam, which was a size like a train,

1159
01:16:45.600 --> 01:16:48.640
and we're down in this hollow,
this this crater, and there was

1160
01:16:48.720 --> 01:16:54.159
still furniture and pictures of people's families, all this stuff from the offices and

1161
01:16:55.399 --> 01:16:59.439
one guy I found a sawbox from
rescue one or something, and all of

1162
01:16:59.439 --> 01:17:02.960
a sudden his guy comes up over
the top of the beam with a bullhorn.

1163
01:17:03.960 --> 01:17:06.159
The assholes get out of there right
now. And that's you know,

1164
01:17:06.439 --> 01:17:11.359
it hasn't been uh hasn't been cleared. I lost too many guys, know

1165
01:17:11.439 --> 01:17:13.359
there was anybody else, and what
do you think you're doing? And the

1166
01:17:13.439 --> 01:17:15.600
guys are going, well, might
there might be somebody down there? They

1167
01:17:15.720 --> 01:17:18.359
not get out. And then I
saw the guy on Saturday get promoted to

1168
01:17:18.760 --> 01:17:25.560
I think he was second in command
of the entire the entire FDNY, you

1169
01:17:25.640 --> 01:17:29.439
know, and he looked much better. It wasn't covered in third I think

1170
01:17:30.520 --> 01:17:33.000
uh his helmet his helmet shield was
written a pencil or something. At the

1171
01:17:33.119 --> 01:17:36.600
time I told Jimmy, I said, listen, we're gonna get yelled at

1172
01:17:36.640 --> 01:17:40.079
somebody, you know, getting yelled
at, but the number two guys FDNY,

1173
01:17:40.119 --> 01:17:44.920
it's not bad, right, So
what else do you have? Might?

1174
01:17:44.960 --> 01:17:46.960
Before I dive into the no that
was that, I wanted to touch

1175
01:17:47.039 --> 01:17:49.600
on that because of course, knowing
you guys and knowing the toll at the

1176
01:17:49.680 --> 01:17:54.920
FDY paid that day and we have
and funny thing is not funny in the

1177
01:17:54.960 --> 01:17:59.199
ha ha sense, but ironically enough
at the watchdesk, Squad forty one gave

1178
01:17:59.319 --> 01:18:01.479
us a plaque about it. I
guess a little bit after night eleven thank

1179
01:18:01.560 --> 01:18:04.359
in the West Table Fire Department for
their work down there at the pilots.

1180
01:18:04.359 --> 01:18:08.079
So we have it there at Spot
forty ones logo and all. So a

1181
01:18:08.119 --> 01:18:12.000
little piece of the FDNY is with
us, the West Table Fire things we've

1182
01:18:12.039 --> 01:18:15.399
got. We felt we were doing
something really good, and I went shortly

1183
01:18:15.439 --> 01:18:18.960
after that, I went to Randall's
Island for a seminar and one of the

1184
01:18:19.039 --> 01:18:24.920
chiefs was up there and you know, of course everybody's devastated by the whole

1185
01:18:25.000 --> 01:18:28.319
thing, and he got up on
stage and he just tore in everybody,

1186
01:18:28.720 --> 01:18:30.119
we didn't need your help, we
didn't want your help. You guys were

1187
01:18:30.159 --> 01:18:32.159
in the way, and there's people
from all over the world there. I

1188
01:18:32.279 --> 01:18:36.079
ran into the guys from San Francisco
with the dogs, so I felt terrible,

1189
01:18:36.159 --> 01:18:39.159
like maybe we should have stayed home. Jesus, I never thought.

1190
01:18:39.159 --> 01:18:42.520
I thought we were going to help. About six months later, I saw

1191
01:18:42.600 --> 01:18:45.119
the same guy at another seminar and
he just somebody must have said something to

1192
01:18:45.319 --> 01:18:48.840
him, because he was absolutely Thank
god you were there, you know,

1193
01:18:48.960 --> 01:18:56.119
thank you for your help. We
really needed it and your supported. Maybe

1194
01:18:56.399 --> 01:18:59.319
we do something wrong, we're firement, we're going down, or to give

1195
01:18:59.359 --> 01:19:08.399
your hand. Yeah, that's crazy. So I want to jump into you

1196
01:19:08.560 --> 01:19:12.640
to twenty seventeen actually to present and
for guys who don't know, we were

1197
01:19:12.680 --> 01:19:15.560
talking about flying back and forth that
way. So you helped create the TV

1198
01:19:15.680 --> 01:19:20.600
show Tacoma f D Right, and
now you serve as technical advisor for all

1199
01:19:20.680 --> 01:19:25.399
four seasons forty on episodes. Give
us a little walk through on how that

1200
01:19:25.520 --> 01:19:27.760
happened. I know your cousin is
on the show, right, How did

1201
01:19:27.800 --> 01:19:30.760
he get involved? How that whole
thing come about? Well, my cousin

1202
01:19:30.880 --> 01:19:32.800
did a movie called super Troopers and
he was far by. He was the

1203
01:19:32.840 --> 01:19:39.079
crazy one of the crazy state policemen
from Vermont, and when that movie came

1204
01:19:39.119 --> 01:19:41.960
out, I broke his stones.
I just listen, you're doing a State

1205
01:19:42.000 --> 01:19:44.840
Troopers thing. State Troopers aren't funny. I want to do a thing about

1206
01:19:44.880 --> 01:19:47.600
firefighters, and it became a family
joke every time I saw him doing a

1207
01:19:47.640 --> 01:19:50.399
firefighter movie. Yet you gotta do
it. The state State police, and

1208
01:19:50.840 --> 01:19:56.199
policemen don't tell good stories. Firefighters
tell the greatest stories. So about eighteen

1209
01:19:56.359 --> 01:19:59.960
years later they make super Troopers too, all right, and then the whole

1210
01:20:00.319 --> 01:20:04.039
team gets back together Broken Lizard and
I start breaking the stones again. And

1211
01:20:04.159 --> 01:20:08.079
then right as that movie is about
the premiere, I get a phone call

1212
01:20:08.199 --> 01:20:12.079
from him and his partner Steve Lemmy
at my house and he says, it

1213
01:20:12.239 --> 01:20:15.880
finally happened. I said, what's
that. You've got a call for a

1214
01:20:15.920 --> 01:20:18.479
man named David Miner out of New
York. He wants to do a sitcom

1215
01:20:18.600 --> 01:20:23.359
on firefighters. I said, that's
great. I told you. He goes,

1216
01:20:23.399 --> 01:20:26.199
can we pick your brain? He
said, sure, tell us some

1217
01:20:26.319 --> 01:20:34.239
stories, and I went continue.
So finally the floodgates open and we talked

1218
01:20:34.279 --> 01:20:41.319
for about four and a half hours. And David Miner is a powerhouse in

1219
01:20:41.439 --> 01:20:45.520
Hollywood. He say, when when
David Minor calls, Hollywood picks up the

1220
01:20:45.560 --> 01:20:49.479
phone. And he did Brooklyn nine
nine Scandal, A thirty Rock. I

1221
01:20:49.560 --> 01:20:53.359
think he's team a face agent.
And so he had like, you know,

1222
01:20:53.399 --> 01:20:55.760
a cop show, a lawyer's show, a bad guy show. He

1223
01:20:55.800 --> 01:20:59.319
wanted a fireman show. And he
called my cousin, so let's do it.

1224
01:21:00.279 --> 01:21:01.439
So I said to Kevin at the
time, I said, listen,

1225
01:21:02.239 --> 01:21:04.960
anything ever goes on with this,
if this gets off the ground, just

1226
01:21:05.239 --> 01:21:08.399
doing me a favorite. But you
know, thank you, cousin, Bill

1227
01:21:08.479 --> 01:21:11.800
and the credits. He goes,
this gets off the ground, we'll pay

1228
01:21:11.880 --> 01:21:14.680
you. I said, if you
pay me, i'll come out to Los

1229
01:21:14.720 --> 01:21:17.119
Angeles. But we'll fly you out
there. And they did, I've been

1230
01:21:17.119 --> 01:21:25.560
out there ever since first Class.
Yeah, well that's only maybe season five.

1231
01:21:25.600 --> 01:21:28.119
We got season five. I got
up my contract to first class.

1232
01:21:29.640 --> 01:21:32.479
They take good care of me,
all right. But this is my my

1233
01:21:32.680 --> 01:21:35.800
uniform. You know, I'm the
technical advisor. Where's a Waiian shirt?

1234
01:21:36.399 --> 01:21:41.119
You know? Because I say so, sunglasses, drives are convertible, and

1235
01:21:41.439 --> 01:21:44.119
they broke my stones something fiercely.
We went out to do the pilot.

1236
01:21:44.159 --> 01:21:46.039
It was February. So I pull
up. I'm in a T shirt,

1237
01:21:46.600 --> 01:21:48.880
got my top down, you got
the radio. Go, and everybody's in

1238
01:21:48.960 --> 01:21:53.880
parkers and wool caps. That's what. Don't we filming this in wintertime?

1239
01:21:54.319 --> 01:21:56.479
He goes, Oh, Bill,
I'm so sorry. It's never this cold

1240
01:21:56.520 --> 01:22:00.159
out here, dude, sixty five
degrees. I just came from Connecticut.

1241
01:22:00.239 --> 01:22:04.119
It's negative seven. Everyone's looking at
me like a insane you know. I

1242
01:22:04.239 --> 01:22:06.680
was like, who's the ass on
a T shirt? Jesus, parents,

1243
01:22:08.920 --> 01:22:11.439
they're all running like inside, they
got car they got their hoods up,

1244
01:22:11.479 --> 01:22:14.960
they got scarves on. So I
had to had to get used to the

1245
01:22:15.039 --> 01:22:18.880
California when it's cold there, so
it's kind of kind of a running gag.

1246
01:22:18.960 --> 01:22:23.119
They're wearing jackets. I got my
little short sleeve Hawaiian shirt on all

1247
01:22:23.119 --> 01:22:27.600
the time. So the first I
heard, I mean just the first before

1248
01:22:27.880 --> 01:22:30.840
you know, this week that I
was hearing about this. It's been on

1249
01:22:30.960 --> 01:22:32.439
for fourth season. What does it
you know, give us a little bit

1250
01:22:32.439 --> 01:22:34.920
about it, like, what's the
story behind it? Where is it happening?

1251
01:22:34.960 --> 01:22:39.920
But we call it Tacoma FT And
we picked the Toma even though it's

1252
01:22:39.920 --> 01:22:43.760
filmed in Los Angeles, because we
did some research. We found out Tacoma

1253
01:22:43.880 --> 01:22:46.680
is the rainiest city in the country. And the gag is it rains all

1254
01:22:46.680 --> 01:22:49.960
the time, there's no fires.
So we got a bunch of firemen in

1255
01:22:50.039 --> 01:22:54.960
the firehouse with nothing to do,
and you know what happens in man to

1256
01:22:58.039 --> 01:23:01.199
jokes and pranks and all this stuff. And the missus, Steve Lammy is

1257
01:23:01.239 --> 01:23:06.560
the captain and Kevin is the chief
and that's kind of based on me and

1258
01:23:06.760 --> 01:23:11.800
my friend Jim O'Brien was my chief. They're brothers in law. And the

1259
01:23:11.920 --> 01:23:16.119
girl, Hassi Harrison, we spoke
about earlier. She's Kevin's daughter on the

1260
01:23:16.159 --> 01:23:20.800
show, she's the chiefs daughter and
she's the first female guy. And coincidentally,

1261
01:23:20.840 --> 01:23:25.560
as this was going on or the
filming the pilot, my department had

1262
01:23:25.600 --> 01:23:29.840
just hired their first female So that
was easy to come up with stuff for

1263
01:23:29.920 --> 01:23:33.319
that. You know, because our
headquarters is built in fifty nine by a

1264
01:23:33.319 --> 01:23:36.159
bunch of guys who just stumbled out
of World War Two. We didn't even

1265
01:23:36.199 --> 01:23:45.119
have stalls around, so so it
was great. So, you know,

1266
01:23:45.880 --> 01:23:47.920
I told Kevin and Steve in the
beginning, I said, listen, you

1267
01:23:47.960 --> 01:23:50.039
guys don't know anything about the fire
serves. But here's the deal. If

1268
01:23:50.039 --> 01:23:56.800
you're gonna do the show, it's
a comedy. You have to laugh with

1269
01:23:56.960 --> 01:23:59.520
the firefighters, not Adam. It's
not. It's not the three students.

1270
01:23:59.560 --> 01:24:02.600
You don't want to be making fun
of the firefighters. These professional people who,

1271
01:24:02.640 --> 01:24:05.600
when the bell goes off, do
a great job. They just have

1272
01:24:05.680 --> 01:24:09.800
too much time on our hands and
getting all kinds of trouble. So once

1273
01:24:09.880 --> 01:24:14.199
we established those ground rules, everything
just fell into place. And you know,

1274
01:24:14.319 --> 01:24:17.680
I work with the writers. I
work with those people who decorate the

1275
01:24:17.760 --> 01:24:21.960
sets and the paint what color paint
you on on this, the construction people,

1276
01:24:23.039 --> 01:24:26.119
every every department in the place,
props, and I work with the

1277
01:24:26.199 --> 01:24:30.880
actors because they had no idea how
to be firefighters. You know, even

1278
01:24:30.960 --> 01:24:35.680
four premiers on July twenty, it's
on True TV Travel's plug. But you

1279
01:24:35.760 --> 01:24:42.680
know, in the beginning, there
they are right now, they've they've been

1280
01:24:42.720 --> 01:24:45.319
together so long that it's hard sometimes
I forget they're not firefighters. You know,

1281
01:24:45.399 --> 01:24:49.520
they do such a great job,
and you know they've come so so

1282
01:24:49.680 --> 01:24:53.640
far, and in the four seasons
that we've done, it's just fantastic.

1283
01:24:54.880 --> 01:25:01.680
It doesn't there you go. So
we got Plymeovent from Plymovent. It actually

1284
01:25:01.720 --> 01:25:08.000
works, it's real. They put
it in for free. But there's you

1285
01:25:08.079 --> 01:25:12.600
know, there's some of the cast
where we're on the apparatus floor and I'm

1286
01:25:12.680 --> 01:25:15.680
giving them the lowdown. I don't
remember exactly what we were doing at this

1287
01:25:15.760 --> 01:25:20.119
point, probably just telling jokes to
each other. You know. Season three

1288
01:25:20.119 --> 01:25:24.399
and I talk about working with the
writers. We called season three of the

1289
01:25:24.439 --> 01:25:29.039
season of the apparatus Floor because they
could not stop calling at the garage and

1290
01:25:29.359 --> 01:25:32.119
even Steve over here to the right, you know, all you know we're

1291
01:25:32.159 --> 01:25:34.439
going to go out into garage.
I'm like, you're going out onto the

1292
01:25:34.479 --> 01:25:39.000
apparatus floor. And then of course
they didn't break my stones. I'll call

1293
01:25:39.000 --> 01:25:42.640
it the garage on purpose. But
you know, you got a bunch of

1294
01:25:42.680 --> 01:25:45.199
guys who are great at writing,
but they know nothing about the fire service.

1295
01:25:45.239 --> 01:25:48.199
So I had to send them the
hierarchy. What's it mean when you're

1296
01:25:48.199 --> 01:25:51.399
a lieutenant? What's the chief to? You know? They pretty much started

1297
01:25:51.479 --> 01:25:55.800
scratch. But you know, now, you know, we got season four.

1298
01:25:56.039 --> 01:25:59.439
Hopefully we'll get season five. We
haven't haven't found out yet. Usually

1299
01:25:59.479 --> 01:26:02.399
we'll wait till a couple of episodes
of en air before they make that decision.

1300
01:26:02.479 --> 01:26:08.439
But everybody's right on board. Now. Sometimes the what's the one on

1301
01:26:08.520 --> 01:26:13.079
TV that they buttheads? You guys, I don't want to remember the name

1302
01:26:13.079 --> 01:26:19.199
of that fire show, Chicago Chicago
File. Now, this is the comic

1303
01:26:19.359 --> 01:26:28.760
Chicago Fire is supposed to be.
That's with Chicarrello from Chicago Fire. How

1304
01:26:28.840 --> 01:26:31.960
much? Right? Yeah? Not
all. This is pretty much. This

1305
01:26:32.119 --> 01:26:35.439
is a comedy. It's like a
spoof. Ye ask you a questions.

1306
01:26:35.479 --> 01:26:39.119
The stuff we do is real.
That's my job. I make sure that

1307
01:26:39.640 --> 01:26:45.039
then goes correct. You know,
the attire is correct and the stuff that

1308
01:26:45.119 --> 01:26:47.840
we do, and most of the
stories come from me. The operations,

1309
01:26:47.880 --> 01:26:51.720
they get into the funny stuff that
happens. Now, the humor of the

1310
01:26:51.800 --> 01:26:58.960
fire of the firefighter doesn't always translate
to the normal person. So because my

1311
01:26:59.000 --> 01:27:00.520
wife will tell me all the time, by they say the firehouse, they

1312
01:27:00.520 --> 01:27:03.000
don't get it. You know,
that's not funny. Yeah, yeah,

1313
01:27:03.159 --> 01:27:06.319
are you able to do you have
to water down a little for the average

1314
01:27:06.359 --> 01:27:13.359
person to get it, or not
a lot. I mean being a comedy.

1315
01:27:13.439 --> 01:27:15.119
I was told us a hunk and
die. We can't have you know,

1316
01:27:15.199 --> 01:27:17.479
we can't have the death. We
can't do this. We can't do

1317
01:27:17.600 --> 01:27:23.119
that. So you follow the parameters. But I make sure that everything's as

1318
01:27:23.159 --> 01:27:25.880
real as possible, you know,
setting up the set, the kitchen,

1319
01:27:26.560 --> 01:27:30.239
the stuff that you would do,
their their routines, the shifts you know

1320
01:27:30.279 --> 01:27:34.479
when they change, and stuff stuff
that you don't think about. Uh,

1321
01:27:34.960 --> 01:27:40.560
great story. Filming the pilot,
my wife came out She's sitting in a

1322
01:27:40.680 --> 01:27:45.319
chair watching on the monitor, and
she says, you know, they're calling

1323
01:27:45.479 --> 01:27:48.840
Steve Eddie. And I'm like,
well, that's his name. He's Eddie

1324
01:27:48.840 --> 01:27:53.079
Paneasy, but they're calling him Eddie. I'm like, I know, that's

1325
01:27:53.119 --> 01:27:56.319
his character. And then I did
a really stupid thing and I started talking

1326
01:27:56.479 --> 01:28:00.680
slowly to my wife. I would
never did, Oh, he's the captain.

1327
01:28:00.800 --> 01:28:04.000
I'm like, oh, right,
right right, they never call him

1328
01:28:04.000 --> 01:28:09.079
by his Yeah. But you know, it's something that's so ingrained in us,

1329
01:28:09.159 --> 01:28:11.880
you don't think about it. You
know, I'm watching, I'm looking

1330
01:28:11.920 --> 01:28:15.439
for obscure stuff. You know,
ers are going to say, he'd never

1331
01:28:15.520 --> 01:28:18.119
do that, you know, And
that's something that big got by me.

1332
01:28:18.159 --> 01:28:20.880
I had to go back and fix
all the scripts. They were calling the

1333
01:28:21.000 --> 01:28:27.239
Chief Terry, you know, and
uh with Stephen and Kevin, when when

1334
01:28:27.239 --> 01:28:30.119
they're together, it's Terry and Eddie
because they're brothers in law. It's it's

1335
01:28:30.119 --> 01:28:33.800
like me and Jimmy, you know, my my, my chief. You

1336
01:28:33.840 --> 01:28:38.720
know, we've got that special relationship. But I would never say hey Jimmy

1337
01:28:38.760 --> 01:28:41.399
in front of the kitchen table,
you know. And yeah, I mean

1338
01:28:42.079 --> 01:28:45.279
we had to kind of and and
explain that to the actively to call him

1339
01:28:45.279 --> 01:28:50.279
by his first time or not because
he's the captain. Something that as as

1340
01:28:50.359 --> 01:28:54.079
basic as that got by me,
the technical advisor, because I never did

1341
01:28:54.119 --> 01:28:57.119
this stuff before. You know,
it was just pilot. You know,

1342
01:28:57.359 --> 01:29:00.720
I called my brother chief even when
I drove him, like I wouldn't call

1343
01:29:00.880 --> 01:29:03.159
Steve, you know, I would
call it chief because so as soon as

1344
01:29:03.199 --> 01:29:08.000
you walk outside, though you don't
ship hand its thickhead, you know,

1345
01:29:08.119 --> 01:29:12.119
whatever it is. But what about
the uh I don't say the harshness,

1346
01:29:12.239 --> 01:29:16.239
but they're trying to get under somebody's
skin, like that's what firemen are all

1347
01:29:16.239 --> 01:29:19.840
about? The sea again on the
skin? Is that is that portrayed in

1348
01:29:20.079 --> 01:29:24.920
the show, like oh yeah,
oh yeah, yeah. We got uh

1349
01:29:25.520 --> 01:29:31.319
Andy Andy Maiawani, the Hawaiian firefighter. Um they what did they do to

1350
01:29:31.399 --> 01:29:34.119
him in season two? And then
they made him crazy? You know the

1351
01:29:34.199 --> 01:29:39.079
same thing. They did all the
stuff to him and got all depressed and

1352
01:29:39.920 --> 01:29:42.199
you know, and the chief would
say, listen, we'll go out and

1353
01:29:42.239 --> 01:29:44.760
have a drink and talk about it. And the chief would forget someone come

1354
01:29:44.800 --> 01:29:48.920
up and Andy be said all by
himself. So we have stuff like that

1355
01:29:49.000 --> 01:29:54.039
all the time. You know,
Uh, it's good. We did an

1356
01:29:54.079 --> 01:29:59.279
episode on Pure Support, you know, and they wanted to do this episode

1357
01:29:59.279 --> 01:30:01.600
and I said, listen, I'm
gonna have to watch very carefully. You

1358
01:30:01.680 --> 01:30:04.920
know. I just got into that
myself. But this is cutting edge stuff

1359
01:30:04.960 --> 01:30:09.039
and you can't really make fun of
it. You can have fun with it,

1360
01:30:09.159 --> 01:30:12.520
you know, And that's trying to
find that that line, you know,

1361
01:30:13.520 --> 01:30:15.720
Uh, it was sometimes you gotta
be careful. You know, you

1362
01:30:15.760 --> 01:30:18.640
don't you don't want to. You
know, you don't want to step on

1363
01:30:18.680 --> 01:30:23.560
anybody's toes or you know, the
people in the industry, so to speak.

1364
01:30:23.600 --> 01:30:26.479
You know, you don't, you
don't want to anybody. Well that's

1365
01:30:26.520 --> 01:30:29.680
not so much offending him, but
make light of something that's so important these

1366
01:30:29.760 --> 01:30:32.039
days, you know. And the
same thing. You know, I got

1367
01:30:32.119 --> 01:30:36.479
into a lot of this peer support
and different things right before I retired,

1368
01:30:36.840 --> 01:30:40.800
and I still do some of it
now. But when I was coming on

1369
01:30:40.880 --> 01:30:43.600
to job, like you guys,
you know, you saw something bad,

1370
01:30:44.119 --> 01:30:45.399
Suck it up, kid, maybe
the job's not for you. I have

1371
01:30:45.439 --> 01:30:48.319
a shot in a barrier, be
okay. And that's just how you did

1372
01:30:48.359 --> 01:30:50.600
it. And you know, I'd
say the same thing to the young guys,

1373
01:30:50.600 --> 01:30:54.479
and I like, Jesus, what
am I doing? You know,

1374
01:30:55.319 --> 01:30:57.560
later on I felt guilty, I
said, I did that. That's the

1375
01:30:57.600 --> 01:31:00.840
way I learned, you know,
right, you know you got to stop

1376
01:31:00.840 --> 01:31:04.199
to the PTSD and the different problems
that everybody's having with with with stuff that

1377
01:31:04.279 --> 01:31:08.399
you can see, and you know
it was it was a big deal.

1378
01:31:08.680 --> 01:31:10.880
We did a good job on that
episode. It was very happy with the

1379
01:31:10.920 --> 01:31:14.399
way it came out. It was
still funny, but it was yeah,

1380
01:31:14.479 --> 01:31:16.840
we did it in such a way
that it wasn't you weren't making fun of

1381
01:31:17.279 --> 01:31:20.039
the situation. You were, you
were having fun with it as it was

1382
01:31:20.199 --> 01:31:24.000
very well done. Now I got
to go back and binge watch Bill.

1383
01:31:24.680 --> 01:31:29.640
Oh absolutely, you know HBO max
were on uh Hulu plus. I think

1384
01:31:29.640 --> 01:31:32.359
you know what it is. That's
was HBO Maxes where I saw the thing.

1385
01:31:32.399 --> 01:31:35.000
Because I got HBO Max, I
knew I saw it somewhere. Then

1386
01:31:35.800 --> 01:31:39.880
I go back and binge watch it
there. Brother, So how oft are

1387
01:31:39.920 --> 01:31:43.359
you flying out to la now?
Man? Well? Not now, if

1388
01:31:43.399 --> 01:31:46.279
we get season five, I'll go
back out and we'll uh you know,

1389
01:31:46.439 --> 01:31:49.600
for for the shooting. We usually
shoot for about fourteen weeks something like that.

1390
01:31:49.760 --> 01:32:00.720
So they'll shoot the whole season of
fourteen weeks. Yeah, business one.

1391
01:32:01.000 --> 01:32:04.439
He's like, you ain't getting into
my action, bro, just this

1392
01:32:04.600 --> 01:32:08.760
one. Yeah. It's funny because
I would tell every once in a while,

1393
01:32:08.800 --> 01:32:11.760
I'll get into no fight. You
know, I get my cousin Kevin,

1394
01:32:11.800 --> 01:32:14.840
and I listen, you can't do
this. Well, you know,

1395
01:32:15.680 --> 01:32:18.680
no one'll know. I'm like,
the guys in the armchairs are gonna revolt

1396
01:32:18.800 --> 01:32:21.880
if you do this, you know, and you know that was always my

1397
01:32:23.000 --> 01:32:25.720
threat. You know, all the
guys, all the firemen and firehouses across

1398
01:32:25.800 --> 01:32:30.399
America are gonna say you can't do
that. Now it's better, I say,

1399
01:32:30.920 --> 01:32:33.039
Jason Patton is going to green screen
this show and I'm gonna be pissed.

1400
01:32:34.520 --> 01:32:39.119
He does to all the other ones, Oh my god, so funny.

1401
01:32:40.600 --> 01:32:44.119
But he hasn't done our show because
even though we're economy, it would

1402
01:32:44.119 --> 01:32:45.760
take some liberties and we can get
away with it because we're economy. But

1403
01:32:46.199 --> 01:32:49.640
all of our stuff is what happens
in the firehouse every day. You know.

1404
01:32:50.880 --> 01:32:57.560
Kevin and Steve, after the first
season, went on a a countrywide

1405
01:32:57.720 --> 01:33:00.359
stand up gig. You know,
they toured the whole country and of course,

1406
01:33:00.399 --> 01:33:01.359
let me fire fighter in the world. Went to all the shows.

1407
01:33:01.920 --> 01:33:04.760
I had to be careful because they're
telling them all their stories. You got

1408
01:33:04.840 --> 01:33:10.199
to use my stories. I can't
talk. But the same thing. They

1409
01:33:10.239 --> 01:33:12.399
all said the same thing, And
I said, you know, your show

1410
01:33:13.359 --> 01:33:16.319
is what we really do. You
know, it's sometimes it's a little over

1411
01:33:16.359 --> 01:33:19.199
the top, but for the most
part, it's it's what happens every day

1412
01:33:19.279 --> 01:33:24.640
in the firehouses across America, and
it's hystericle. Yeah, it is funny,

1413
01:33:24.680 --> 01:33:27.640
probably, And there was sometimes I
remember laughing at the firehouse and some

1414
01:33:27.760 --> 01:33:30.079
stuff, and I'm like, holy
shit, man, you know you almost

1415
01:33:30.159 --> 01:33:32.359
laughed. Do you do you do
you pass out? Some of the ship

1416
01:33:32.560 --> 01:33:38.079
is so and and and it's just
so uh. The guys have such they

1417
01:33:38.159 --> 01:33:40.960
come up with ship that You're like, I can't believe that they came up

1418
01:33:41.000 --> 01:33:45.159
with something like that. Some of
you plan a practical joke for three weeks

1419
01:33:45.279 --> 01:33:49.880
or something. Yeah, might pull
out the picture age of the cash which

1420
01:33:49.880 --> 01:33:56.560
one is your cousin Bill all the
way to the right. Okay, and

1421
01:33:56.680 --> 01:34:01.039
now who who what do they play
on the show? Kevin's the chief right,

1422
01:34:01.399 --> 01:34:08.720
him is Marcus Henderson. There's Kevin
Eric Marcus Henderson. He plays Granny.

1423
01:34:08.800 --> 01:34:15.199
He's he's the paramedic. Um next
to him is uh Andy Maiawani,

1424
01:34:15.359 --> 01:34:20.119
which is uh Arrow. Next to
him is Hassi Harrison. She plays Lucy,

1425
01:34:20.239 --> 01:34:25.079
the chief's daughter, and me,
of course. Next to me is

1426
01:34:25.079 --> 01:34:28.479
Steve Lemmy. He plays Captain Eddie
Panisi, who's really me in real life.

1427
01:34:29.039 --> 01:34:31.720
And then Gabe Hogan plays like Crystal. He's the he's the big strong

1428
01:34:31.800 --> 01:34:36.439
guy. Cheesy mustaches and the show. I say, I was gonna say

1429
01:34:36.560 --> 01:34:40.399
to meet cheesy mustaches. Look at
it. So you want to hear a

1430
01:34:40.439 --> 01:34:45.039
great mustache story. Yeah, Stephen
Kevin don't usually have mustaches, so they

1431
01:34:45.119 --> 01:34:49.119
grew him for the show. So
now I'm at my cousin Kevin's house for

1432
01:34:49.279 --> 01:34:54.640
having dinner. Steve's there with his
wife and he starts complaining on my mustaches,

1433
01:34:54.720 --> 01:34:57.159
my mustache that he says, you
know you got a mustache, you

1434
01:34:57.199 --> 01:35:00.760
know, mustache forever? What do
you do? I get stuck getting it

1435
01:35:00.760 --> 01:35:05.159
and super stuff and it's good.
It's like a snack later on play the

1436
01:35:05.199 --> 01:35:09.760
table. So he's like, yeah, I always afraid my mustache smiles,

1437
01:35:09.800 --> 01:35:12.079
and my wife's not gonna lie to
it. I said, listen, just

1438
01:35:12.279 --> 01:35:14.920
do what we all do. Steve, what sad is to take you tooth

1439
01:35:14.960 --> 01:35:18.600
brush, put a little toothpaste on
it, Just brush your mustache, you

1440
01:35:18.680 --> 01:35:21.640
know, and it'd be munty fresh. And I just left it at that,

1441
01:35:23.640 --> 01:35:27.159
And he did it, and I
don't know how long he was doing

1442
01:35:27.199 --> 01:35:30.039
it. But the next time I
flew out to Los Angeles, he said,

1443
01:35:30.560 --> 01:35:33.760
ask you a question, said,
sure, you don't really use a

1444
01:35:33.800 --> 01:35:40.239
toothbrush on your mustache too. I
want to see if you were going to

1445
01:35:40.279 --> 01:35:45.079
do it. What matter? But
he actually was. He was brushing his

1446
01:35:45.239 --> 01:35:49.239
mustache. Might be onto something there, he might be onto something. Never

1447
01:35:49.960 --> 01:35:56.560
did a whole new line. I
could have to tell us mustache taste whatever,

1448
01:35:57.359 --> 01:36:00.479
wax or something. Somebody was saying, is it forgot? Who don't

1449
01:36:00.520 --> 01:36:02.000
know? Is it like that show
Reno nine one one, but in a

1450
01:36:02.279 --> 01:36:08.840
fire department context? Yeah, sort
of, yeah, I think excuse me,

1451
01:36:08.960 --> 01:36:15.079
Reno nine one one was almost a
spinoff of like Super Troopers, but

1452
01:36:15.199 --> 01:36:18.920
it's the same. You know,
we've got excuse me, um, you

1453
01:36:19.000 --> 01:36:21.800
know all the stereotypical guys. You
got the Captain in the chief, you

1454
01:36:21.880 --> 01:36:26.399
got the big, strong and dumb
guy. You got Granny the paramedic who

1455
01:36:26.520 --> 01:36:30.680
is he knows everything. He's a
book of knowledge. You know. Um

1456
01:36:30.359 --> 01:36:34.920
Andy might want is the rookie,
and then he's he's not the rookie anymore

1457
01:36:34.920 --> 01:36:39.079
because Lucy comes on. But she's
the chief's daughter. She grew up in

1458
01:36:39.119 --> 01:36:41.479
a firehouse, so they try to
get over on her. But she knows

1459
01:36:41.520 --> 01:36:45.279
more about the firehouse. And it's
kind of like my wife. My wife's

1460
01:36:45.319 --> 01:36:47.800
father was deputy chief. She grew
up in the firehouse. My daughter,

1461
01:36:48.039 --> 01:36:51.199
excuse my daughter grew up in the
firehouse. She's married to one of the

1462
01:36:51.239 --> 01:36:55.680
fireman on my job now, and
the same thing he was. He didn't

1463
01:36:55.680 --> 01:36:59.479
come from a family of firefighters.
She knows more about it than him.

1464
01:36:59.600 --> 01:37:04.039
You know, it's kind of daunting
sometimes when your wife more about your job

1465
01:37:04.079 --> 01:37:09.720
than you do, and I'm amazing
details of your job. Yeah, I'm

1466
01:37:09.720 --> 01:37:12.479
amazed at the fact that she picked
that up about you know, nobody calls

1467
01:37:12.560 --> 01:37:14.640
him by the first time you gotta
call him by. It's like, I

1468
01:37:14.800 --> 01:37:16.840
got you know, I'd like to
say I would have I would have tipped

1469
01:37:16.960 --> 01:37:21.399
that eventually. You know. The
funny pot is my wife talks to me

1470
01:37:21.520 --> 01:37:25.600
like that. When I'm saying something, she'll go you know, the thing

1471
01:37:27.000 --> 01:37:34.520
you say, and then he's talked
slowly like, yeah, I did,

1472
01:37:34.560 --> 01:37:41.640
didn't that's pretty bad? What else
you got by? Anything else? Before

1473
01:37:41.680 --> 01:37:44.399
we do the old school tip of
the day. Nah, nah. I

1474
01:37:44.479 --> 01:37:46.079
just wanted to give a shout out
thanks, first and foremost a half for

1475
01:37:46.399 --> 01:37:49.039
making time for us tonight. I
appreciate it's been great. And also to

1476
01:37:49.119 --> 01:37:51.119
all the guys at the West Tap
and Fire Department, who I know,

1477
01:37:51.239 --> 01:37:55.000
most of whom are watching right now. I think we did a pretty good

1478
01:37:55.079 --> 01:37:57.079
job. I think I'll still have
a job tomorrow. I just want to

1479
01:37:57.079 --> 01:37:59.319
say, I know they're gonna kill
me for this because I'm gonna sound really

1480
01:37:59.359 --> 01:38:01.079
really corny. What I mean it
had the job for a couple of months

1481
01:38:01.159 --> 01:38:04.239
now and half. You're great to
work with. Really everybody the departments tell

1482
01:38:04.359 --> 01:38:08.319
my mom the other day there's not
a single guy I dislike. You know,

1483
01:38:08.359 --> 01:38:15.359
I really love working never done this
before. I love my job,

1484
01:38:17.159 --> 01:38:19.960
but it's great. I really do
enjoy your job. So thanks guys,

1485
01:38:20.000 --> 01:38:23.800
and I'll see to marm. Don't
forget under hire. Don't forget under him.

1486
01:38:23.920 --> 01:38:25.239
You know, I'm say, yeah, I got the towel right here,

1487
01:38:25.279 --> 01:38:29.600
so I'll take her again. That's
good. Yeah, thanks for coming

1488
01:38:29.640 --> 01:38:31.760
on with the tie. And has
Mike won the wife beata to work yet?

1489
01:38:32.760 --> 01:38:38.439
No, man, get very spefe. I think it's it's like I

1490
01:38:38.560 --> 01:38:43.600
wear the Haiian shirt. Yeah,
it looks like Wall Street executive. Well

1491
01:38:45.079 --> 01:38:48.119
dresses up. They'll pay him as
now you know, getting old beefy.

1492
01:38:48.439 --> 01:38:54.119
Yeah, that's very different show.
We actually Captain Irvan just put something in

1493
01:38:54.159 --> 01:38:56.079
the chat before we go to the
old school tip of the day. He's

1494
01:38:56.079 --> 01:39:03.239
referencing half the Smitty Story referring to
him which one I don't know. He

1495
01:39:03.359 --> 01:39:06.840
just put Smitty Story in the chat. You'll have which one? There's too

1496
01:39:06.880 --> 01:39:12.000
many apparently if he puts in the
chat, we can go back to it

1497
01:39:12.079 --> 01:39:13.479
later. But if you want to
get to the old school tip of the

1498
01:39:13.520 --> 01:39:15.840
day, I guess we can do
that now we can. But I just

1499
01:39:15.960 --> 01:39:19.279
want to say intriguing Korea, excellent
fireman, and I like the whole um

1500
01:39:20.159 --> 01:39:26.039
historian thing and all the things that
you collect and you look to collect and

1501
01:39:26.399 --> 01:39:30.840
now on with the TV show.
You're a well rounded five five well well

1502
01:39:30.920 --> 01:39:33.520
rounded a human being. I've been
a train. You all live in the

1503
01:39:33.640 --> 01:39:42.119
dream. Mister uh silly Willie,
you are, oh willy word of the

1504
01:39:42.199 --> 01:39:45.000
day, folks word of the day, and Urban says, any hef any

1505
01:39:45.079 --> 01:39:50.680
any quick smitty story? Who's smittyr? It was Smitty Ransford Smith. Ah,

1506
01:39:50.880 --> 01:39:56.880
Yes, yeah, Smith unfortunately passed
away. Yeah. I think the

1507
01:39:56.960 --> 01:40:03.079
stomach cancer. He was on the
job and he was just one of those

1508
01:40:03.159 --> 01:40:06.680
guys that had done everything, you
know, and if he did half the

1509
01:40:06.720 --> 01:40:13.119
stuff he said he did, it
was amazing. You like that, but

1510
01:40:13.159 --> 01:40:19.880
I mean it was you know,
I invented gas stations. But he was

1511
01:40:20.000 --> 01:40:25.720
president of his own ambulance company at
one point, and it's a very well

1512
01:40:25.880 --> 01:40:29.600
rounded guy, and he was just
he was a He was a gem to

1513
01:40:29.680 --> 01:40:36.399
work with, and he was funny
and he liked the white women. Who

1514
01:40:36.439 --> 01:40:43.479
doesn't. Who doesn't. So we
had we had two guys passed away right

1515
01:40:43.479 --> 01:40:45.960
in a row. Smitty Smithy had
got cancer and then he went pretty quick.

1516
01:40:46.720 --> 01:40:50.760
And our friend Chris O'Keefe dropped out
of a heart attack of forty nine.

1517
01:40:50.800 --> 01:40:54.840
He's on my shift and on duty. He was off on a vacation,

1518
01:40:55.520 --> 01:41:02.319
and we all responded at Dy's funeral
and a wake he had his his

1519
01:41:02.479 --> 01:41:05.439
wife, his girlfriend is his ex
wife, his other ex wife, his

1520
01:41:05.479 --> 01:41:11.880
other girlfriend. Club all knew each
other, and they were all friends,

1521
01:41:11.920 --> 01:41:15.000
and they were all in a little
coffee circle, coffee clatch, you know,

1522
01:41:15.760 --> 01:41:25.640
keeps funeral. H He had his
ex wife who he was still dating,

1523
01:41:25.720 --> 01:41:29.239
i think, and his steady girlfriend
and we kind of put them on

1524
01:41:29.359 --> 01:41:33.720
each side. And then the door
burst open and the girl comes in.

1525
01:41:33.960 --> 01:41:41.000
Stara go like, what's wrong?
What's wrong? Um, Chris's fiance say

1526
01:41:41.159 --> 01:41:45.079
Mary. I'm like, of course
you are stating in a corner. And

1527
01:41:45.159 --> 01:41:49.680
then it happened again. Christie's for
a day Andrew I'm like, oh,

1528
01:41:49.880 --> 01:41:54.479
I had like four more times,
really, you know about these girls.

1529
01:41:55.039 --> 01:41:57.680
So he had Smithy on one side. Everybody knew each other, was friends,

1530
01:41:58.239 --> 01:42:00.159
not so much in a Chris o'keefeeling. Yeah, he was doing at

1531
01:42:00.199 --> 01:42:08.399
the Coincidentally, I can talk for
three hours about O'Keefe's funeral. It was

1532
01:42:08.640 --> 01:42:13.039
an amazing firefighter funeral with all kinds
of crazy stuff that happened. But we

1533
01:42:13.239 --> 01:42:16.000
based episode nine of season four that
was just gonna say that to you.

1534
01:42:17.399 --> 01:42:19.880
I had to sell that. I
had to sell that to Kevin and Steve.

1535
01:42:19.960 --> 01:42:21.720
I can't have a funeral, I
just listen. There's things you have

1536
01:42:21.800 --> 01:42:26.720
to have a golf tourm at a
wedding, a parade. Got what we

1537
01:42:26.800 --> 01:42:30.079
do. So I saw them on
it after I told them the very long

1538
01:42:30.359 --> 01:42:36.119
and involved Chrystal Kee funeral star it's
hysterile. So you can look for episode

1539
01:42:36.239 --> 01:42:41.000
nine. It stars me. I
will be You see my ugly mug on

1540
01:42:41.079 --> 01:42:44.119
television. You have to get a
thick card for that, bro, I

1541
01:42:44.239 --> 01:42:47.359
do I have one. Oh,
you can't get into all the Hollywood parties.

1542
01:42:47.399 --> 01:42:54.119
Now there you go. Big card
though, And they said that to

1543
01:42:54.199 --> 01:42:57.840
me at the end of March,
and I paid my dues and I realized

1544
01:42:57.960 --> 01:43:01.760
expired the first day of April and
they couldn't just wait and send it to

1545
01:43:01.840 --> 01:43:05.439
me three days later. It was
well worth it. Good for you,

1546
01:43:05.600 --> 01:43:09.119
so we'll be seeing you. It
was a great guy. He was.

1547
01:43:09.840 --> 01:43:15.199
He's probably the whitest black man you
ever met. He was friends to work

1548
01:43:15.239 --> 01:43:17.720
with and the funny stuff that he
would come out of his months is amazing.

1549
01:43:18.479 --> 01:43:23.520
That's great. Yell nothing back.
Yeah, we messed him daily.

1550
01:43:23.520 --> 01:43:26.119
He's very good friends with Andy Bennett. It was it was. It was

1551
01:43:26.159 --> 01:43:30.399
a devastating bow he got sick.
M Yeah, I think it's that time.

1552
01:43:30.800 --> 01:43:33.279
Yeah, before that though, we'll
be seeing you. August fifth.

1553
01:43:33.359 --> 01:43:36.840
I hope yes, both of us, Yes, yeah, both of us.

1554
01:43:36.880 --> 01:43:41.960
You'll be seeing Yeah. No,
I sweared it away. I said,

1555
01:43:42.000 --> 01:43:43.800
hey, listen, it's work.
You gotta do what you gotta do,

1556
01:43:44.359 --> 01:43:46.760
and I'll be down there all right
now. It might be that time.

1557
01:43:46.840 --> 01:43:49.439
You know what time it is.
Yes, it's time for the old

1558
01:43:49.479 --> 01:43:51.760
school and me deep in my voice
a little bit, the old school tip

1559
01:43:51.800 --> 01:43:59.640
of the day, day day,
all right, half, it's all yours

1560
01:43:59.680 --> 01:44:00.840
and he just make sure the camera
pans out to you. Take it away.

1561
01:44:01.079 --> 01:44:08.760
I feel like I'm at a horse
race of the day. All your

1562
01:44:08.800 --> 01:44:14.520
young guys out there, go to
work. Work, you're overtime, work

1563
01:44:14.600 --> 01:44:18.680
hard. Don't be afraid to come
in and do things off duty on your

1564
01:44:18.680 --> 01:44:25.199
own time. If you ever win
the Community Service Award, it's probably the

1565
01:44:25.279 --> 01:44:28.680
best award we give out. You
can win the Medal of Valor and the

1566
01:44:28.720 --> 01:44:30.359
Medal of Merit. It just means
you showed up for work one day and

1567
01:44:30.399 --> 01:44:34.720
a lot of bad stuff happen.
Community service you have to give up your

1568
01:44:34.760 --> 01:44:41.199
own time and you need to go
and volunteer and be in charge of something.

1569
01:44:41.319 --> 01:44:44.800
Join a committee, get involved in
your community, get involved in your

1570
01:44:44.840 --> 01:44:48.399
department, don't just show up for
your paycheck. Get in there, work

1571
01:44:48.479 --> 01:44:53.079
the overtime. It's not just a
job, it's not just a career.

1572
01:44:53.279 --> 01:45:00.760
It's a way of life. I
like it, probably very different, Michaeloge

1573
01:45:00.960 --> 01:45:03.600
You are correct, all star guest
tonight. Thank you for pulling him out

1574
01:45:03.600 --> 01:45:08.479
of there the last and that's what
coming on the last minute notice, mister

1575
01:45:08.800 --> 01:45:19.720
mister William Heffernan, hold on dry
though I'm drying there you go. Thank

1576
01:45:19.720 --> 01:45:25.640
you a great time. Thanks for
doing this. I'm gonna be looking this

1577
01:45:25.760 --> 01:45:28.359
up now. I gotta look it
up now. You got a couple more

1578
01:45:28.399 --> 01:45:30.560
of view is he will pass it
along. We'll pass it along to our

1579
01:45:30.560 --> 01:45:34.560
community. Um and uh any other
shout outs? Broth you got anything,

1580
01:45:34.600 --> 01:45:38.039
buddy, No, it's just the
newerk. Guys. That was it.

1581
01:45:38.720 --> 01:45:42.359
Well, you enjoy your time up
there in Greenwood light Bundy, all right,

1582
01:45:42.560 --> 01:45:45.079
how do the little what's on?
One day? That till Saturday?

1583
01:45:45.920 --> 01:45:48.479
Yeah, Sunday, I think Sunday, Sunday. The mother in law has

1584
01:45:48.520 --> 01:45:54.520
got to be making egg play palm
one day. I mean tomorrow. She

1585
01:45:54.680 --> 01:45:57.800
made it today, but I mean
the chicken palms. You're not making the

1586
01:45:57.920 --> 01:46:00.840
chicken palm. I'm kicking her out
to she it's two days, that's it.

1587
01:46:00.960 --> 01:46:03.920
What do you think? Well?
I want to who came up?

1588
01:46:03.960 --> 01:46:08.720
Do you know what? The other
guy, Gino came up on Monday?

1589
01:46:09.520 --> 01:46:12.399
My sister was supposed to come up
on Tuesday. My brow law came up

1590
01:46:12.479 --> 01:46:15.279
yesterday with my mother in law in
the stain until he came up like this

1591
01:46:15.359 --> 01:46:19.319
stuff. You think I'm better?
It's better it is? Yeah, you

1592
01:46:19.359 --> 01:46:21.359
know what? Bill? Did you
get an invite? I must have lost

1593
01:46:21.439 --> 01:46:26.199
month coming man, I don't know
what happened. It's only the up and

1594
01:46:26.199 --> 01:46:30.520
trust the up tut up a trust
the up there. Yeah, all right,

1595
01:46:30.560 --> 01:46:31.800
Mike, take us out, bro. Do you think whatever it is

1596
01:46:31.840 --> 01:46:34.479
that you do so? Well?
All right, well here's our outrow the

1597
01:46:34.520 --> 01:46:38.520
shortened version, all forty three seconds
of it, explaining, of course,

1598
01:46:38.600 --> 01:46:41.079
another great show we did and where
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1599
01:46:41.159 --> 01:46:44.439
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1600
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1609
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Experience. I like that one version
of mind pretty quick to the point excellent

1612
01:47:27.279 --> 01:47:30.760
than try my best, all right, And Roofie and I will not be

1613
01:47:30.880 --> 01:47:33.159
here on Monday again. It's only
Thursdays for the month of July and then

1614
01:47:33.159 --> 01:47:36.119
we'll get back to UH when I
come back from the Philippines. I think

1615
01:47:36.199 --> 01:47:40.359
sometime later August September will be going
back to two shows a week. But

1616
01:47:40.520 --> 01:47:44.960
Roofie and I on Monday, twenty
fifth anniversary of the creation of the Squad

1617
01:47:45.039 --> 01:47:49.239
Company party, so we'll be doing
our things. And mister William, I

1618
01:47:49.319 --> 01:47:54.520
appreciate it. Just when I thought
I found an interesting firefighter another one comes

1619
01:47:54.560 --> 01:48:00.079
along. Excellent job. I stick
around half, don't don't stick by.

1620
01:48:00.159 --> 01:48:01.159
Yeah, we'll see goodye off their
we'll talk off the air. Might bring

1621
01:48:01.199 --> 01:48:05.359
some donuts tomorrow something too. Will
you have to tell from us? Tell

1622
01:48:05.479 --> 01:48:09.199
enough from the getting salty boys.
Will you there's a there's a dunk of

1623
01:48:09.239 --> 01:48:12.319
donuts up the street tomorrow, pick
it up for the boys, all right,

1624
01:48:13.960 --> 01:48:17.800
bagels or something brick some bagels with
some ship. All right, rough,

1625
01:48:17.840 --> 01:48:21.880
having fun up there. I'll see
you Monday night. I've party all

1626
01:48:21.920 --> 01:48:27.520
right, guys until then, stay
low and yo, everybody will see it.

1627
01:48:27.600 --> 01:48:30.680
The big one on behalf of Kevin
Coogler or Louis Frano and Bill Hefford,

1628
01:48:30.720 --> 01:48:31.680
and I'm like, coloone, have
a great night and we we'll see

1629
01:48:31.720 --> 01:48:32.640
you next time.