1 00:00:25,839 --> 00:00:28,679 It's the Internet. You're busy, Let's do this. Welcome to the Game 2 00:00:28,760 --> 00:00:32,479 Mess Decides Podcast. This is the podcast where we decide everything about the world 3 00:00:32,479 --> 00:00:35,759 of games, so you never have to think for yourself. I'm your host, 4 00:00:35,920 --> 00:00:39,280 Jeff Grub, and with me is I thought your name was Deaf Grub. 5 00:00:40,159 --> 00:00:42,359 I'm Jeff Grub, I'm Deaf Grub. I messed it up again. 6 00:00:42,560 --> 00:00:47,079 I'm Deaf Grub. With me is Mike Manati. In today's episode, the 7 00:00:47,159 --> 00:00:52,079 King is back on Sky Island, had really could happen? And Mike Manati. 8 00:00:52,200 --> 00:01:02,000 Mike, Mike Manati, that's pretty good, Mike. It's beautiful. 9 00:01:02,039 --> 00:01:06,560 It's beautiful, Mike. How are you doing? I'm good. Excited to 10 00:01:06,560 --> 00:01:11,040 play some video games this weekend. Last I wish I'm like so relatively close 11 00:01:11,079 --> 00:01:14,760 to beating bars Get three. I wish I actually just did do that now. 12 00:01:15,079 --> 00:01:18,879 But that's fine. Can I ask you, how's how's Act three treated 13 00:01:18,920 --> 00:01:23,640 you in terms of tech issues and bugs? Because I heard pretty bad things 14 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:26,239 early on. Seems like it's getting better, but you're in it's what's it 15 00:01:26,319 --> 00:01:29,319 like? Yeah? I don't know. I haven't I haven't had any major 16 00:01:29,359 --> 00:01:32,280 problems. It seems that's what I like to hear. I remember hearing that. 17 00:01:32,359 --> 00:01:34,560 I remember hearing the general people thought like Act one was better than next 18 00:01:34,599 --> 00:01:38,680 two or three in some ways. Uh, it's all been pretty steady for 19 00:01:38,799 --> 00:01:42,599 me. Actually so fantastic. That's what I like to hear. Yeah, 20 00:01:42,599 --> 00:01:44,799 I've been really enjoying. You know. Act three is fun because I think 21 00:01:44,799 --> 00:01:48,040 everyone knows this, not spoiler. Act three is the one in Boulders Gates. 22 00:01:48,040 --> 00:01:49,879 You are in like this city, which is kind of you know, 23 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:53,439 it's pretty neat, it's very dense, a lot to do, but still 24 00:01:53,519 --> 00:01:57,680 pretty big. Also lots of things we do, lots of behind three. 25 00:01:57,920 --> 00:02:00,280 Bunch of spoiler bastards on this podcast can't believe. Yeah, I know, 26 00:02:00,359 --> 00:02:05,319 I know. I keep coming under fire for how much I spoiler. That's 27 00:02:05,400 --> 00:02:07,120 right, you never learned your list, and either, Mike, whether you 28 00:02:07,159 --> 00:02:15,840 spoil the sand then what was yeah with you? I dare you? You 29 00:02:15,879 --> 00:02:17,080 also been playing Spider Man, right, we're gonna shoul we talk about that 30 00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:21,199 later. Ye, we'll talking about that later. I finally did spin up. 31 00:02:21,919 --> 00:02:23,759 Uh, Spider Man, that's not really a punky spin web. I 32 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:27,319 guess yeah, sorry, Spider Man, you know, I guess say there's 33 00:02:27,319 --> 00:02:30,879 a pun You're right, you got a great one. It's not Champanzee targeting, 34 00:02:30,919 --> 00:02:31,960 but I try right. Yeah, listen, we can't all be a 35 00:02:32,039 --> 00:02:37,319 funny stan riker Uh. Thanks everybody for joining us. You get more from 36 00:02:37,319 --> 00:02:39,479 Mike and me by joining the discord at game miss dot net. Give us 37 00:02:39,479 --> 00:02:43,400 a good rating wherever you are listening, and hit that like button on YouTube. 38 00:02:43,639 --> 00:02:46,080 It helps people find the show. 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One month 48 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:23,000 early access to new episodes of game Miss Jeopardy and Columbros and of course all 49 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:25,240 of our shows ad free and we just really appreciate the sport. It means 50 00:03:25,280 --> 00:03:29,840 a lot. Been Uh, it's just been steady growth and every time I 51 00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:32,199 usually get a notification when someone joins, and it just means the world. 52 00:03:32,280 --> 00:03:36,400 So thanks everybody for the support. There, Mike, I got a bunch 53 00:03:36,439 --> 00:03:38,159 of big topics that I want to talk about you with. Uh, I'll 54 00:03:38,199 --> 00:03:40,360 talk about with you. No, I'll talk about you with why not? 55 00:03:40,479 --> 00:03:44,800 Let's do you talk about me to these topics? O guess yes, exactly 56 00:03:45,240 --> 00:03:47,960 the best things to say about me. I doubt it. There's that bad 57 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:53,159 King Kong game everyone's having fun with, and we watched Dan play some of 58 00:03:53,159 --> 00:03:58,360 that earlier this week. I'm glad bad games like this can still happen, 59 00:03:58,520 --> 00:04:01,639 and I'm like, it's all so I think mostly fun when it's like everyone's 60 00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:03,319 like, no, this is the one we're all going to play and make 61 00:04:03,360 --> 00:04:08,360 fun of. I don't know how do these things keep happening? From game 62 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:11,960 mil game miill like puts out a lot of these. How do these things 63 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:15,319 make money? I suppose this one might actually make money. Well, like 64 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:18,800 obviously like their Nickelodeon license stuff does because ye Donlodian, you know, King 65 00:04:18,959 --> 00:04:23,000 Kong doesn't seem like a super hot license at the moment. I mean, 66 00:04:23,040 --> 00:04:26,959 you have to imagine this game must almost be doing better now because it's a 67 00:04:27,040 --> 00:04:30,879 two out of ten than if it was a five out of ten or something. 68 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:32,480 Yeah, right, but I don't know. Everyone's kind of just having 69 00:04:32,519 --> 00:04:36,240 fun with it. It's not even as outrageous as the Gollum game, even 70 00:04:36,240 --> 00:04:40,399 though this game is worse than the Golf game in a lot of ways that 71 00:04:40,519 --> 00:04:45,560 it was like, how did this happen? This is a prestigious franchise and 72 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:48,199 this they marketed this game. They were trying to hype this game up right, 73 00:04:48,519 --> 00:04:50,560 this Kik Kong game, Like, yeah, I can see how this 74 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:55,040 can happen. It's real bad. It isn't that funny? Yep, yep. 75 00:04:55,120 --> 00:04:58,839 They just kind of did the least amount of work on it. And 76 00:04:58,879 --> 00:05:00,759 you can really feel that the game, and that is kind of funny once 77 00:05:00,759 --> 00:05:03,240 you start playing it, and it's like, man, these cut scenes are 78 00:05:03,279 --> 00:05:08,720 absurd and the game scene really has not much going on. Let's see they 79 00:05:08,759 --> 00:05:13,040 did goosebumps the game. Oh my god, that's in twenty fifteen, Goose 80 00:05:13,279 --> 00:05:17,000 Goosebumps is Goosebumps doesn't go away. There's like a news Goosebump show on Disney. 81 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:19,680 Now kids can't Actually, that's gotta be for the adults at this, 82 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:23,800 but kids don't care about Goosebumps. Right. The movie seemed like it was 83 00:05:23,839 --> 00:05:28,240 for the older fans of the books from when the now. Yes, it 84 00:05:28,279 --> 00:05:30,600 was a while agoa black in it. Yeah, but now there's there's the 85 00:05:30,639 --> 00:05:34,360 Netflix Goosebump Show and that does thy BLUs Disney plus, how dare you take 86 00:05:34,360 --> 00:05:36,759 that away from Disney Plus? Oh, you're right, I'm in stolen valor. 87 00:05:36,800 --> 00:05:42,480 I'm sorry. Dare you miss mister content that by ger? I apologize 88 00:05:42,560 --> 00:05:46,560 and I won't do it again. That's my official apology. Yeah, I 89 00:05:46,560 --> 00:05:47,399 don't know. I look at these games. I'm like, oh man, 90 00:05:47,439 --> 00:05:54,519 what is this Hidden Mysteries Titanic that's from twenty sixteen. It's like it's got 91 00:05:54,560 --> 00:05:58,319 a positive rating from game Mail. Yeah, I don't know. I had 92 00:05:58,319 --> 00:06:00,439 a lot of fun watching Dan play. I do have this game. I 93 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:03,519 think I might be happy just watching Dan play it though for Yeah, I 94 00:06:03,560 --> 00:06:06,639 haven't good enough for me? Kind, I mean, I love playing bad 95 00:06:06,680 --> 00:06:10,519 games. There's too much good stuff to be playing right now, so you 96 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:13,639 might look funny in a monkey suit if we are this way. And I 97 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:16,959 have my own bad game coming up soon enough, so I'll be fine. 98 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:19,639 I'm free of them blad for now. Yeah, you are free of the 99 00:06:19,639 --> 00:06:25,199 blaight. Uh. The original Switch Revealed trailer has been removed from the Nintendo's 100 00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:29,839 YouTube channel, probably for licensing issues. Mike, there's no like official statement 101 00:06:29,879 --> 00:06:32,879 about why this happened. It does use some some music, and apparently there's 102 00:06:32,920 --> 00:06:36,519 some issues with the music. I can't really remember exactly what the details were. 103 00:06:36,560 --> 00:06:42,720 I think it was something along the lines of the people who the record 104 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:46,600 label got bought or sold or something like that. And now the rights for 105 00:06:46,680 --> 00:06:50,680 that song aren't exactly clear, like who holds them and and so people are 106 00:06:50,680 --> 00:06:55,759 speculating Nintado's just being safe there and pulling the pulling the thing down. But 107 00:06:56,040 --> 00:06:58,800 if you want to be conspiratorial, uh, and I don't know if you 108 00:06:58,800 --> 00:07:00,519 want to be, Mike, maybe this is a sign that they don't want 109 00:07:00,560 --> 00:07:04,480 confusion for a Switch reveal, for a like Switch to reveal, that's what 110 00:07:04,560 --> 00:07:09,079 some people are going to I don't really buy into that app but hey, 111 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:13,920 who knows. That seems like quite a stretch there, Jeff, I don't 112 00:07:13,959 --> 00:07:16,399 think it's impossible. I don't think it's impossible that's that's what's happening. I 113 00:07:16,439 --> 00:07:20,199 just think it's a very small possibility. It's a small fut A switch too 114 00:07:20,360 --> 00:07:25,120 is going to get announced at some point anyway, especially once we're on the 115 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:29,959 other side of Mario Wonder releasing, right, uh, for sure, especially 116 00:07:29,959 --> 00:07:32,439 once we're on the other side of the holidays. Honestly, most likely maybe 117 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:36,000 in Game Game Awards is the earliest I can imagine. I could see them 118 00:07:36,079 --> 00:07:41,240 that maybe, I mean game wards. I could see them teasing it in 119 00:07:41,279 --> 00:07:45,199 some video before that and then having some bigger thing at the Game Awards. 120 00:07:45,240 --> 00:07:47,279 But I suppose the teaser makes the most sense at the Game Awards. That's 121 00:07:47,279 --> 00:07:50,759 probably You're probably right, maybe, but maybe, like that's just the earliest. 122 00:07:50,839 --> 00:07:53,600 Yes, I'm not sure if I'm not something to see it there, 123 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:57,399 But yeah, I don't know. I don't think you would have to delist 124 00:07:57,399 --> 00:08:01,040 this one YouTube video in order to help can Fusion. I know maybe they're 125 00:08:01,079 --> 00:08:03,759 paranoid about what happened with the WU, but I mean, the problem there 126 00:08:03,879 --> 00:08:09,000 was that the name was just bad if it's called something more distinct, we're 127 00:08:09,040 --> 00:08:13,480 always like a switch to the people shouldn't get as confused when googling for information 128 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:16,000 about it. Yeah, you would hope so, but it's Nintendo and they 129 00:08:16,079 --> 00:08:20,240 might be bad at naming things. Again, you never know, I'll like 130 00:08:20,439 --> 00:08:22,639 Jeff, Sorry, go ahead, you have a thought about this. I 131 00:08:22,680 --> 00:08:24,480 was going to completely pivot. I think I was going to move away too, 132 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:26,319 So why don't you go ahead and tell me what you're thinking? Did 133 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:31,040 you beat Sonic Superstars? I'm like, right at the end, I'm on 134 00:08:31,079 --> 00:08:33,360 the last level. Are you sure you're on lass level? I guess I'm 135 00:08:33,399 --> 00:08:35,840 not sure if I'm on the last level, I'm well, I think I've 136 00:08:35,879 --> 00:08:39,399 just beat the snow level. Or maybe I'll beat the snow level. Okay, 137 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:43,240 yeah, your career, you better Okay, man, you better do 138 00:08:43,320 --> 00:08:46,440 that right after this, because yeah, that's the plan. Yeah that loves 139 00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:48,440 good bosses. Bullshit. And like I saw some people online say it like 140 00:08:48,480 --> 00:08:52,320 took them hours. They didn't take me that long. You know, you're 141 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:54,200 so like me. Yeah, I'm not good at Sonic. What the fuck 142 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:58,200 do you mean it takes hours to be the fucking Some people are real confused 143 00:08:58,039 --> 00:09:01,440 talking about what no way what. I know you were like, Hey, 144 00:09:01,519 --> 00:09:05,279 Jeff's not gonna like this final boss. Yeah, you're gonna hate that boss. 145 00:09:05,279 --> 00:09:09,639 Mike. Let's be clear here. You are saying you don't like that 146 00:09:09,679 --> 00:09:13,480 boss and you think it's bad, and you know you're usually as a defense 147 00:09:13,519 --> 00:09:16,759 so you can criticize Sonic without saying something bad about something. I'm just saying 148 00:09:16,840 --> 00:09:20,559 because if you couldn't want to play Mario and it's gonna be like available to 149 00:09:20,600 --> 00:09:22,879 play when we're done with this show, and you're not gonna be able to 150 00:09:24,080 --> 00:09:28,440 yet because you have three or four hours of Sonic Superstars to play, because 151 00:09:28,440 --> 00:09:31,080 this boss is going to take you. I'm trying to help you, all 152 00:09:31,159 --> 00:09:33,799 right, Well give me the pro tips then, okay. I don't want 153 00:09:33,840 --> 00:09:37,120 to get right now that might be spoilers. I don't want to give away 154 00:09:37,120 --> 00:09:43,080 the strategy to the final boss of Sonic Supers Superstars. The stupid Stars is 155 00:09:43,080 --> 00:09:46,879 what I think. I just I that game are pretty bad, real bad. 156 00:09:46,960 --> 00:09:50,080 They are all They're actually all bad. Some of them are real bad. 157 00:09:50,480 --> 00:09:52,200 I don't know what they're thinking. They're but I don't know if they 158 00:09:52,200 --> 00:10:01,480 were thinking is that the spoiler people are upset about people are upset about Sandman. 159 00:10:01,519 --> 00:10:05,080 I'm actually going to find them and beat them up if that's the one 160 00:10:05,080 --> 00:10:09,960 they're actually mad about it. And since somebody said, like, oh, 161 00:10:09,960 --> 00:10:13,480 I didn't know what Sadman was on the on the video game until I said 162 00:10:13,559 --> 00:10:16,519 a lot of people were mad about Jeff and spoilers to be clear, So 163 00:10:16,519 --> 00:10:18,919 a lot of people are mad about the that's the whatever. They're going to 164 00:10:18,960 --> 00:10:22,120 play that game and realize again, that's not really any of the spoilers. 165 00:10:22,879 --> 00:10:26,360 All right, let's keep going through this news. PS five Slim's release date 166 00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:30,559 and a Spider Man two bundle may have seemingly leaked. PlayStation five Slim is 167 00:10:30,600 --> 00:10:33,639 going to be released in November. Now it's like, looking at it's going 168 00:10:33,679 --> 00:10:35,559 to be, I think it's November eighth. I actually fucking didn't write the 169 00:10:35,720 --> 00:10:39,600 date down here? What good am I? But November? And yeah, 170 00:10:39,600 --> 00:10:46,559 I think it's November eighth for a Spider Man two bundle with the PlayStation five 171 00:10:46,639 --> 00:10:50,039 Slim systems, and that would be five hundred and sixty dollars essentially with the 172 00:10:50,080 --> 00:10:56,639 disc version. Then apparently two days later, the PlayStation five Slim without a 173 00:10:56,639 --> 00:10:58,840 bundle without a game bundled in is going to release at that point at least 174 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:03,480 it's the date dates according to Bill bel Kuhn, who's a very Bill Bill 175 00:11:03,600 --> 00:11:07,639 Kuhn, Bill bell Killhn. Yeah, the reliable leaguer, Mike, But 176 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:11,559 what do you have to say about Bill bil Kuhn not think it's an interesting 177 00:11:11,639 --> 00:11:13,799 name? Yeah, yeah, it's that. I'm like, that's a normal 178 00:11:15,639 --> 00:11:18,679 see yeah, well it's okay, but yeah, sure, BBC, Yeah, 179 00:11:18,840 --> 00:11:24,919 we know what's on Mikey's mind. Uh yeah, whatever, Well this 180 00:11:24,960 --> 00:11:28,799 is I think this makes a lot of sense because I think Sony knows that 181 00:11:28,840 --> 00:11:31,559 Spider Man two is going to be its biggest fucking thing. This is maybe 182 00:11:31,559 --> 00:11:35,399 this entire generation, and so lining up your new hardware release with that game, 183 00:11:35,879 --> 00:11:39,320 even though the game will have been out for a while obviously it's coming 184 00:11:39,320 --> 00:11:43,200 out tomorrow tonight or whatever. Uh like, still having that game like ready 185 00:11:43,200 --> 00:11:46,960 to go as like the first initial push for the Slim is going to help 186 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:50,639 a ton probably, I mean absolutely, I mean it could be their biggest 187 00:11:50,679 --> 00:11:54,240 exclusive of for the console really, right, mm hmm. Yeah. What 188 00:11:54,320 --> 00:11:56,360 was the best selling PlayStation four game? Was it? Spider Man? It's 189 00:11:56,399 --> 00:12:01,759 a it's a game called Marvel's Spider Man the best selling, fastest selling and 190 00:12:01,840 --> 00:12:05,960 best selling I think PlayStation exclusive of all time, is what they said, 191 00:12:05,039 --> 00:12:07,559 right right, Actually, yeah, and you know they're going to have some 192 00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:13,759 stuff obviously coming out Wolverine, presumably a ghost Yushima two. What is actually 193 00:12:13,759 --> 00:12:16,039 like ed spider Man three, probably about the indust generation. Yeah, what 194 00:12:16,200 --> 00:12:20,240 is the what is announced that we know is coming from Sony's first party? 195 00:12:20,279 --> 00:12:24,240 Still not that's a coup. It's gonna have to announce some things here soon. 196 00:12:24,320 --> 00:12:28,639 Huh, yes, yes, exactly. And I've heard some uh, 197 00:12:28,480 --> 00:12:31,559 Sony fans that have like Sony fan podcasts talking like, hey, you know, 198 00:12:31,679 --> 00:12:35,000 in the past, they would tell this stuff really early, and so 199 00:12:35,200 --> 00:12:37,919 hey, I just want to like they're like trying not to be too anxious 200 00:12:37,919 --> 00:12:39,759 about it because they're pretty happy with the games that they're getting, but they 201 00:12:39,799 --> 00:12:43,840 are they are beginning to say, it's weird that we haven't had like the 202 00:12:43,879 --> 00:12:48,279 big here's what's coming out over the next two years Beyond Wolverine, it's pretty 203 00:12:48,320 --> 00:12:50,600 much just Wolverine now, right, Yeah, that's it. And again we 204 00:12:50,679 --> 00:12:56,200 assume Sucker Punches, Ghosts Yushima two cannot be very far behind. Yes, 205 00:12:56,919 --> 00:13:00,519 and you know what else is Naughty Dog doing? Is it just those Part 206 00:13:00,519 --> 00:13:03,240 three? It could be that could be announced anyway, but that was a 207 00:13:03,279 --> 00:13:05,840 game. I'm when they announced lest of Us Part two, it took forever 208 00:13:05,840 --> 00:13:09,759 for that thing to actually come out after getting announced. Yeah that long again. 209 00:13:11,120 --> 00:13:13,600 Yeah, and that one, like anything, Naughty Dog just feels so 210 00:13:13,720 --> 00:13:18,879 far off. I mean, especially when they had to put their multiplayer game 211 00:13:18,919 --> 00:13:22,559 on ice. So yeah, it's it's it's it's a strange time. But 212 00:13:22,639 --> 00:13:26,559 I bet once they do have another big event that should answer a lot of 213 00:13:26,559 --> 00:13:31,600 those questions. Up to for crying out loud, that's a really good point. 214 00:13:31,679 --> 00:13:33,919 That's the one where I like, this is this entire year, as 215 00:13:33,919 --> 00:13:37,600 we were getting Sony events, I'm like, well, team of sobe, 216 00:13:37,720 --> 00:13:39,480 we'll hear what they're doing. And it's because you know, VR was here 217 00:13:41,080 --> 00:13:43,960 at the very least they're going to be doing a VR game, not even 218 00:13:43,039 --> 00:13:46,080 that. So it's almost kind of good because now I'm like, Okay, 219 00:13:46,159 --> 00:13:50,360 maybe they are just making but what if it's a V game next year? 220 00:13:50,440 --> 00:13:54,519 That would be really depressed, right, that would suck so bad. We'll 221 00:13:54,559 --> 00:13:58,960 see. I like, any chance you're going to like upgrade to a slam 222 00:13:58,960 --> 00:14:01,480 I can't remember if I asked you this, No, there's nothing now, 223 00:14:01,039 --> 00:14:05,519 absolutely not. It'd be really silly for me too. I think it was. 224 00:14:05,600 --> 00:14:09,600 I could see some people doing it if it had like two terabytes of 225 00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:13,080 storage, but just going from eight hundred and twenty five gigabytes to one terabyte, 226 00:14:13,399 --> 00:14:15,720 I don't see many people making that choice. Although you know, some 227 00:14:15,759 --> 00:14:18,279 people are wild for a new hardware no matter what, and I don't blame 228 00:14:18,360 --> 00:14:20,720 them. I do that with Nintendo, so I get it. I Ineo's 229 00:14:20,759 --> 00:14:24,840 new handheld looks like a Nintendo DS successor. I and Neo puts or yeah, 230 00:14:24,879 --> 00:14:28,200 I up put yeah iiO is the name of the company, and they 231 00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:33,480 put out a ton of these handheld PCs of a bunch of different varieties. 232 00:14:33,679 --> 00:14:35,519 But recently it's been getting closer and closer to stuff like Steam Deck. Some 233 00:14:35,600 --> 00:14:37,879 of I say closer and closer. Some of them are more powerful than the 234 00:14:37,879 --> 00:14:45,000 Steam Deck. I have been expecting someone to do a DS like console, 235 00:14:45,120 --> 00:14:48,200 a handheld console from China for a while. Now Ie wo be on the 236 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:50,559 one to do it, a little bit surprising, but I'm hey, I'm 237 00:14:50,559 --> 00:14:54,919 all all in favor of this. I just I guess I'll just to see 238 00:14:54,919 --> 00:14:58,480 how much is gonna cost. It does use an AMD rise in seven seventy 239 00:14:58,639 --> 00:15:03,440 four to U chip, which means it's probably going to be seven hundred dollars 240 00:15:03,919 --> 00:15:07,559 in that ring defensive for a machine that I basically want to emulate DS and 241 00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:11,240 three DS games on. I just don't buy a three D yes and I 242 00:15:11,279 --> 00:15:13,639 have those. I have those ready to go, and they are they're modeled. 243 00:15:13,840 --> 00:15:18,480 So I do think this is a cool thing, but but it's it's 244 00:15:18,480 --> 00:15:22,440 not exactly something I need. Although I once it's in front of me, 245 00:15:22,480 --> 00:15:24,799 and once I see the specs, and once I see how woke games run, 246 00:15:24,039 --> 00:15:26,559 and maybe it's like super comfortable and all this stuff. I don't know. 247 00:15:26,799 --> 00:15:31,799 Something about a clamshell design always does appeal to me the most ever since 248 00:15:31,799 --> 00:15:35,600 the Game Boy Advance sp But mostly it's just like, Okay, I'm glad 249 00:15:35,600 --> 00:15:39,600 we're getting this because I might encourage what happens with these Chinese companies. All 250 00:15:39,639 --> 00:15:41,679 the times one company does it, then the rest sort of find the way 251 00:15:41,720 --> 00:15:45,279 to do it as well, and I'm like, okay, So I'm hopeful 252 00:15:45,639 --> 00:15:48,279 that we'll get a lot of companies trying to do that, and I hope 253 00:15:48,279 --> 00:15:52,240 they get the hinge. Right, that's the one thing that never actually is 254 00:15:52,360 --> 00:15:58,840 high quality. So we'll see moving right along. Phil Spencer is all in 255 00:15:58,960 --> 00:16:03,759 if teams want to re visit classic Xbox and Activision franchises. Uh, he 256 00:16:03,840 --> 00:16:07,440 basically was. There was a podcast over Microsoft their PR team, and he 257 00:16:07,480 --> 00:16:11,600 basically said, hey, if if we can get if we could find the 258 00:16:11,639 --> 00:16:15,279 teams, we'll do a couple of these per year. And by these he 259 00:16:15,399 --> 00:16:21,159 means games like Heretic and Hexin and and things along those lines where it's like, 260 00:16:21,320 --> 00:16:22,639 yeah, we think with game Pass we can make all of those make 261 00:16:22,759 --> 00:16:27,000 sense. So he's kind of making a small little promise, not exactly an 262 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:30,559 explicit promise, and it is just a couple of games per year, but 263 00:16:30,600 --> 00:16:33,440 that's better than what we were getting from Activision. How hopeful are you that 264 00:16:33,440 --> 00:16:37,919 that's actually going to come to pass? Oh? I mean it would take 265 00:16:37,960 --> 00:16:40,559 a little bit anyways, but gosh, I mean that's you know, we 266 00:16:40,600 --> 00:16:44,080 were just talking about Sony and how much I wish that they could fill out 267 00:16:44,080 --> 00:16:48,480 their schedule by reviving some of their older classic franchises, you know, less 268 00:16:48,480 --> 00:16:52,360 stuff like Ape Escape or even like a Jet and Moto is what's the Moto 269 00:16:52,600 --> 00:16:56,840 motally cool. I just don't hear from anymore. But yeah, Microsoft has 270 00:16:56,000 --> 00:16:59,759 access to a lot of this stuff now, I mean, you know so 271 00:16:59,759 --> 00:17:02,919 so from what they acquired, sure hecks, but even from within their own 272 00:17:02,960 --> 00:17:07,079 catalog. I always scream about Crimson Skies and how much I want that back, 273 00:17:07,200 --> 00:17:11,319 right Yep, I would love it. I guess the question is like, 274 00:17:11,319 --> 00:17:14,799 who you know, who out there has the studio that has the time 275 00:17:14,960 --> 00:17:17,480 in the will that wants to specifically be like, hey, We're going to 276 00:17:17,519 --> 00:17:21,319 be the team that brings back blanks the time Sleeper, because that's what we're 277 00:17:21,319 --> 00:17:26,400 all really into right now, right, Yeah, it's you know, making 278 00:17:26,440 --> 00:17:29,200 games, especially at a big corporation. A lot of that's politics, and 279 00:17:29,240 --> 00:17:33,960 it's building coalitions and it's building agreement across a bunch of different departments and getting 280 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:37,240 all these people to say, yes, we all believe in this and we 281 00:17:37,279 --> 00:17:41,880 want to do this. And I think for some of these classic franchises that'll 282 00:17:41,920 --> 00:17:45,240 be easy, and for most of them it'd be I think it'd be very 283 00:17:45,279 --> 00:17:49,240 difficult to say let's make one of those, as opposed to saying trying something 284 00:17:49,279 --> 00:17:55,440 new, and that's I think we see that play out with the current crop 285 00:17:55,559 --> 00:17:59,759 of Microsoft studios that have done stuff like oh, Obsidian, Hey what you 286 00:18:00,039 --> 00:18:02,680 go to spin spin up something and go try something? You want to make 287 00:18:02,680 --> 00:18:06,119 it all game like, No, we're gonna make grounded and and uh not 288 00:18:06,240 --> 00:18:08,480 usiding, but a tingle game works making a high five rush and things like 289 00:18:08,519 --> 00:18:11,759 that, and and then the up city and making pentiment. So it's like, 290 00:18:12,640 --> 00:18:15,200 I think that's a good I'm glad that they're doing these new things because 291 00:18:15,240 --> 00:18:18,960 I like most of those things. They're they're all very good. It's crowded. 292 00:18:19,000 --> 00:18:22,440 You fucking can't stand grounded. You won't shut up about it. Yeah, 293 00:18:22,680 --> 00:18:23,880 I mean, let's bury that thing angry in the ground is what I 294 00:18:23,920 --> 00:18:26,359 always say, because I think I'm very clever, and you keep rolling your 295 00:18:26,359 --> 00:18:30,279 eyes, but I'm gonna keep saying it. This is the kind of thing 296 00:18:30,279 --> 00:18:34,279 where I could see, Uh, it's just that opportunity costs. And I 297 00:18:34,319 --> 00:18:37,279 think a lot of these studios are going to be like, hey, we 298 00:18:37,359 --> 00:18:40,640 would rather do something new because that excites us more and we do have that 299 00:18:40,759 --> 00:18:45,119 freedom, so I think and less and less Phil takes a little bit more 300 00:18:45,279 --> 00:18:48,920 of a take charge attitude about some of these classical franchises. Most of them 301 00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:53,920 are probably gonna still remain dormant, and that's not too surprising to me. 302 00:18:53,960 --> 00:18:57,240 I don't know how about you, And I was joking, but what do 303 00:18:57,319 --> 00:19:02,200 you think is the like assessed been on Grounded? You think that was Yeah, 304 00:19:02,200 --> 00:19:03,839 they say a waste of time, but no, no, no, 305 00:19:04,240 --> 00:19:08,160 I mean the there's a pretty I think I thought there was a surprisingly big 306 00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:11,319 community behind it. Okay, I didn't never hear anyone talk about it, 307 00:19:11,640 --> 00:19:14,720 you know, when it was getting near the when it had its one point 308 00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:17,359 oh release through the end of the year, there was like this push from 309 00:19:17,400 --> 00:19:18,559 people to be like, I'm gonna try this before like game of the year 310 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:22,119 stuff, and a lot of people came away from it really positive, at 311 00:19:22,160 --> 00:19:25,720 least the people I was listening to podcast talk about it. I never really 312 00:19:25,759 --> 00:19:27,480 had a chance to actually try playing it with other people in any real way, 313 00:19:27,640 --> 00:19:30,519 and I kind of wish I did. But it's like, you know, 314 00:19:30,559 --> 00:19:33,319 I think it's it turned out to be one of the pretty good one 315 00:19:33,359 --> 00:19:37,079 of those survival games. Sure, I get think that that whole genre kind 316 00:19:37,079 --> 00:19:40,519 of likelice over my head. Yeah, bit it's kind of sad. I'm 317 00:19:40,559 --> 00:19:42,960 a little skeptical people that Grounded is big It doesn't feel like it's a big 318 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:47,519 deal to me, But you say so, you say so. Chat Yeah, 319 00:19:47,519 --> 00:19:48,799 I think maybe in the Xbox community might be pretty big. I don't 320 00:19:48,799 --> 00:19:52,279 think it's like Sea if Thieves big, right, sure, ye big Monkey 321 00:19:52,319 --> 00:19:56,720 Island DLC. Huh yeah, exactly if you want to convince Mike, get 322 00:19:56,759 --> 00:20:02,079 some fucking Monkey Island DLC in there. Maybe Grim and Dango. I like 323 00:20:02,079 --> 00:20:06,519 your Fandango. You know that game's turning twenty five at the end of the 324 00:20:06,559 --> 00:20:08,319 month. How about that. Yeah, you got any jokes for that game 325 00:20:08,359 --> 00:20:11,799 that you're gonna submit. I gotta work on them. I gotta work on 326 00:20:11,839 --> 00:20:15,240 them. I'll be very excited to see what you come up with. All 327 00:20:15,359 --> 00:20:18,680 right, let's just those last spit. The Tarkana report, the MPD report 328 00:20:18,839 --> 00:20:23,559 was out, Starfield was number one, Mortal Kombat one was number two. 329 00:20:23,720 --> 00:20:27,400 That's a confusing thing to say. Uh, the EA Sports FC twenty four 330 00:20:27,480 --> 00:20:32,319 was number three. Then Madden then paid a three NBA two K twenty four 331 00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:34,519 and the Crew Motifes motor Use at number seven. And it's a pretty good 332 00:20:34,519 --> 00:20:37,680 showing for the Crew Motorfest mic it is. And yet I think a lot 333 00:20:37,720 --> 00:20:41,359 of people I I like the crew. I know you said that I was 334 00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:45,400 giving your opportunity here. Yeah, it's pretty good. I think more people 335 00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:48,359 should play it again. It's good that it charted a lot of big games, 336 00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:52,799 yes, from a lot of releases. Man, and that's October's supposed 337 00:20:52,799 --> 00:20:56,799 to be the crazy month. So look out, Hey, that's pretty good 338 00:20:56,799 --> 00:20:59,680 for Starfield, right, a game that is only on you know, PC 339 00:20:59,759 --> 00:21:03,319 and x bugs, not on PlayStation, and also is on game Pass. 340 00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:07,519 Anyway, it still beat a huge release like Mortal Kombat one, which is 341 00:21:07,559 --> 00:21:11,920 on everything like including Switch. So yeah, it's pretty good. Pretty good 342 00:21:11,039 --> 00:21:14,839 more than pretty good, it's very good. Yeah, it's impressive. And 343 00:21:14,839 --> 00:21:18,400 I think we knew the game was selling well and performing well. I think 344 00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:21,799 I was never really too much of a question, and yet still a little 345 00:21:21,839 --> 00:21:26,000 surprising that it beat Mortal Kombat one, game that we knew was going to 346 00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:30,279 be massive, a huge success in a big seller. And then as far 347 00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:33,240 as hardware goes, Xbox was number one, or at least that they said 348 00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:36,519 it was the biggest, it was the only one they had growth. I 349 00:21:36,519 --> 00:21:37,359 don't know if they said it was number one for the month or not. 350 00:21:37,480 --> 00:21:41,319 Let me actually score down here and see what they say, video game hardware 351 00:21:41,319 --> 00:21:45,400 spending fell eight percent when compared to a year ago to four hundred and fifty 352 00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:49,359 one million, single digit percentage growth, and consumer spending on Xbox series hardware 353 00:21:49,839 --> 00:21:56,319 was offset by declines across both PlayStation five and Switch. PlayStation tried remained the 354 00:21:56,359 --> 00:21:59,400 best selling hardware both in terms of units and dollar sales during the month. 355 00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:03,240 Okay, so yes, PlayStation five still outsold the Xbox even though Xbox was 356 00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:07,559 up and PlayStation five was down, but Xbox ranked number two across both measures. 357 00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:12,240 Yeah, that sounds that still sounds right because for Starfield, like we 358 00:22:12,279 --> 00:22:15,599 know, hey, that's the one that's gonna move Xboxes, right, Well, 359 00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:18,079 it performed, at least for in terms of sales, and that's not 360 00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:21,720 too surprising better on PC than it did on Xbox because I think so many 361 00:22:21,759 --> 00:22:25,440 people are just waiting for the for the game Pass version. But yeah, 362 00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:29,880 I think this was the one that was supposed to move Xboxes. I don't 363 00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:32,119 know, how do you feel about the health of the console at this point. 364 00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:33,839 I guess it's a little I don't say, I don't know if distressing 365 00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:37,240 is too much, but yeah, because this is was basically their biggest shot 366 00:22:37,319 --> 00:22:41,759 at one of their gains being a console seller, right, definitely not going 367 00:22:41,799 --> 00:22:44,599 to have this point by far. Yeah, and who knows what's going to 368 00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:48,400 do that again. So this month they can't beat Place five, maybe they 369 00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:52,440 never do. Maybe that's fine, maybe they'll ever need to beat Placeation five, 370 00:22:52,759 --> 00:22:53,480 But it does kind of feel, Yeah, you didn't do it this 371 00:22:53,559 --> 00:22:56,359 month. I don't know if you ever going You certainly aren't going to next 372 00:22:56,440 --> 00:23:00,799 month when Spider Right comes out yep. And I don't know. Now that 373 00:23:00,799 --> 00:23:06,119 this Activission deal is closed, it feels like their overall ecosystem of selling games 374 00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:11,079 and micro transactions and being on mobile is healthier than ever, and so I 375 00:23:11,079 --> 00:23:15,119 think that dampens an he can real concern about like what the Xbox hardware is 376 00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:18,480 doing, because there's so many ways to get into this Xbox world now, 377 00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:21,960 and yet still I think I was expecting a little bit better of showing from 378 00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:26,440 the Xbox for on the back of Starfield at the very least. Yeah, 379 00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:30,039 just with the software. Is interesting to see some games still holding pretty well. 380 00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:33,000 Yeah, Armor corese six went from two to eight behind the really releases, 381 00:23:33,599 --> 00:23:37,880 even Jedi Survivor from twelve to eleven. Resident Evil four were from twenty 382 00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:42,240 seven to twelve. I'm guessing a lot of people got back there because of 383 00:23:42,279 --> 00:23:47,160 the or picked it up finally because Separate Ways came out. So yeah, 384 00:23:47,319 --> 00:23:48,079 you know, it's like a lot of the games that were supposed to be 385 00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:52,119 big games are continuing to do it. Look Cefd's from thirty four to nineteen. 386 00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:57,960 See that's what Monkey Island does for your game now long I think actually 387 00:23:59,039 --> 00:24:03,079 actually makes me feel for Are you happy that it actually had an impact on 388 00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:11,279 s IF star sales? Cool? But yeah, uh is it really Monkey 389 00:24:11,279 --> 00:24:12,599 Island? You're pushing that? You think? What else could it be? 390 00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:15,680 I don't know, That's why I'm asking. I have no idea, but 391 00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:19,279 I guess might be maybe you know, at the very least, like announcing 392 00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:22,119 new content for it probably did push it away. I mean it's like big 393 00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:26,200 content, so I mean, yeah, maybe that more so than the Monkey 394 00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:27,920 Islands of it. But I mean, hey, that stuff is good, 395 00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:32,519 that stuff is very good, so yes, cool? Uh yeah, I 396 00:24:32,519 --> 00:24:36,000 mean the rest of the list, there's a lot of known quantities and and 397 00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:38,680 and like perennial hits and games that were from earlier this year, Hogwarts, 398 00:24:38,759 --> 00:24:42,680 Legacy, and and and Zelda Cheers of the Kingdom Minecraft, Mario cart things 399 00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:45,960 like that, Dobles saying that season ten of See If Thieves did add private 400 00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:49,119 servers, so that might that's that's might be something too. I don't know, 401 00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:52,920 that's right. A lot a lot of people are very into the idea 402 00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:56,920 of playing in a world where you aren't constantly getting attacked by people who are 403 00:24:56,960 --> 00:25:00,160 better than you. Yeah. Right, A big complain from Sea if Thieves 404 00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:03,160 players for it's hard for newbies because you do like you know, you're gonna 405 00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:07,119 have no chance for a fit there. Yeah, and there's there gonna be 406 00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:08,960 a crew of people who have played like ten thousand hours because there's apparently a 407 00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:12,759 lot of people who see if these is their game. All right, I'll 408 00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:15,519 go back a second. Never want a chat. You should have all been 409 00:25:15,559 --> 00:25:18,920 talking about how much you love Grounded before. I had never heard anyone talk 410 00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:23,079 about Grounded. Then I desparage it for a moment, and everyone is apparently 411 00:25:25,079 --> 00:25:29,720 I read that in the world. Apparently, apparently it's the biggest game of 412 00:25:29,799 --> 00:25:34,279 the world. I had no idea are they are they providing like any day 413 00:25:34,279 --> 00:25:37,000 there's a lot of time. But I said it had fifteen million players, 414 00:25:37,039 --> 00:25:41,960 which, oh, sure, Teddy shush quite a yelling them up. Grounded 415 00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:45,079 Yeah, well we'll see, uh fair enough. I do think Grounded is 416 00:25:45,279 --> 00:25:48,000 bigger than than you realized. I don't know if it's the biggest thing in 417 00:25:48,039 --> 00:25:51,640 the world. That's that might be a little bit much. We'll see. 418 00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:56,240 All right. We got a bunch more coming up on this podcast, including 419 00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:59,519 a closest to the messy pen. We're gonna talk about the best or do 420 00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:03,839 the mount rushmore actually for you today. We'll get to all of that after 421 00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:06,440 we read some super chats after this break. See y all in a second. 422 00:26:07,519 --> 00:26:11,079 We're back, and I don't know if you're listening to the podcast version, 423 00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:14,200 let's stick around any of those show there's a bunch of bullshit during the 424 00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:17,839 break. You're going to want to hear Mike read some super chats for me, 425 00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:22,279 please, okay. Ario Delgado says, watch Terminal Montage buck Bumble, 426 00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:26,119 You're welcome. I don't know what that is. Terminal Montage a YouTuber or 427 00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:29,519 something. I don't know, but I'll watch it. I don't know. 428 00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:37,119 Bation okay, oh okay, AJ says Happy Web and Wonder Day Wow two 429 00:26:37,319 --> 00:26:42,559 w's I like it? Ww W W three. Dorachi just says Mario. 430 00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:49,119 I agree, we're safe. We're safe now. Jeff my god. I 431 00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:55,759 just can't believe the I can't believe how much faith in humanity I've lost over 432 00:26:55,799 --> 00:26:59,559 the mainline. Mario debates, like, I can't believe that my old thing 433 00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:03,160 used to be. I can't believe some people think Yoshi's Island is mainline and 434 00:27:03,759 --> 00:27:07,400 you're so far from from that. I feel like it's like that's so quaint. 435 00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:11,319 That's what's the argument, right, And like people that come at me 436 00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:14,400 there were semantic. I'm like, it's a game where Mario is not to 437 00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:15,920 make characters like well, if you think about this way, like okay, 438 00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:19,759 whatever, But but man, the fact that you know Dan, but like 439 00:27:19,839 --> 00:27:26,119 people people defend them. Yeah, but you asked them to explain, like 440 00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:29,519 their their logic, like what's that term for, like putting things to do 441 00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:32,960 in the world is around I'm not believing a damn thing. Yeah, exactly, 442 00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:36,480 And you asked Dan to explain it, and there is no export. 443 00:27:36,559 --> 00:27:41,079 He never actually explains his logic. It feels right to him. It just 444 00:27:41,079 --> 00:27:45,160 feels exactly that exactly. That's what that Mario wonder is it a mainline Mario 445 00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:48,079 game somehow, I do like we we haven't asked this, and I'm sure 446 00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:51,079 there's no answer to this either, to what end? To what end? 447 00:27:51,079 --> 00:27:55,160 Are you excluding these games from this mainline Mario category? Why do you feel 448 00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:56,920 the need to do? You know, we had to take a break, 449 00:27:56,920 --> 00:28:00,960 but maybe not even the next play club because I'm worried it's too much for 450 00:28:00,039 --> 00:28:04,079 some people. We have to definitely still we have to get to bomb because 451 00:28:04,079 --> 00:28:10,279 there's by his logic, why is why sixty four mainline Mario game? Then? 452 00:28:10,319 --> 00:28:14,559 Because they changed the name completely and it doesn't even play like the previous 453 00:28:14,599 --> 00:28:15,400 ones, right, So I don't know. I don't know, but I 454 00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:18,039 can't can't hell anymore. Just you're here, it's a safe space. We 455 00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:22,359 mostly agree on this. We're okay. I just need to be surrounded by 456 00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:26,880 sanity. Yeah maybe for a second. It's uh, it's rough out there 457 00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:30,160 when we talk about it now, it's tough. It's it's real, it's 458 00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:34,000 real rough. Kit Kit was like, Brian from a gaming former tweeted about 459 00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:37,240 this is I think forget which twenty eight? Yes, Yosh's Island. Yes, 460 00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:41,920 he did the poll, and Kit was like, I can't do this 461 00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:44,000 again. And then I had to explain to him that I have to deal 462 00:28:44,039 --> 00:28:47,319 with Dan and it's so much worse. It's Oh you think that's again. 463 00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:48,759 I used to think that used to get to me, the Osh's Island thing, 464 00:28:49,039 --> 00:28:51,880 and now I mostly be like, look, you can have it, 465 00:28:52,079 --> 00:28:55,839 you can have Bay life, but you've got to say that Super Mario three 466 00:28:55,920 --> 00:29:00,880 D world is may life. What are we talking about? Craziness? All 467 00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:04,279 right, Mike O'Leary says, while crawling and seeing The Nightmare before Christmas at 468 00:29:04,279 --> 00:29:07,920 a theater in three D, A good weekend ahead of me. I saw 469 00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:11,160 A Night Before Christmas in three D and a theater quite a while, like 470 00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:14,960 before Avatar, it was pretty like it was early in that wave of three 471 00:29:15,039 --> 00:29:18,279 D, and it was one of the first films that got a good three 472 00:29:18,359 --> 00:29:21,039 D conversion. It's very well done. It's really fun seeing the movie that 473 00:29:21,079 --> 00:29:22,240 way. So you're gonna have a good time. That's a good movie to 474 00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:26,200 see this time of year. Oh yeah, probably, I like to watch 475 00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:29,960 that if I can, like maybe like Halloween nights or the day after Halloween. 476 00:29:30,079 --> 00:29:32,039 Right, sure, kind of a good transition. It's a good time 477 00:29:32,079 --> 00:29:33,279 for that. I have kids, so I watch it pretty much every day. 478 00:29:33,359 --> 00:29:36,920 Yeah, kids really like that. You would think like that would be 479 00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:41,680 kind of scary. No, like little kids love the Night before Christmas. 480 00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:44,400 Addie when she was two couldn't get enough of it. Addie when she was 481 00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:48,839 three was petrified of it. Like we had a a Sally doll that we 482 00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:51,480 got for because she loved Sally so much when she was two and then her 483 00:29:51,599 --> 00:29:53,240 entire year being three and like kind of going into four a little bit. 484 00:29:53,599 --> 00:29:57,720 If she saw that, she'd have to fucking leave the house screaming in terror 485 00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:03,079 from seeing the Sally doll. And now now she's back one back on that 486 00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:07,599 movie on Jack on Sally. She's all into it. Incredible. Al Greg 487 00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:11,079 says making his kids beat Sonic Superstars for him made Jeff sick. Also, 488 00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:15,440 why isn't Dan playing a Blake game next? He only played one game? 489 00:30:15,559 --> 00:30:18,680 Love this show. Greg has a good point. I know he does, 490 00:30:18,759 --> 00:30:21,519 and I agree, but I know that that's a losing battle. So now 491 00:30:21,599 --> 00:30:26,599 he's gonna pap okay. Sonic was really long, and I think that's a 492 00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:29,519 fair argument to the point where yes, longs he was bad at it though, 493 00:30:29,759 --> 00:30:33,359 oh yeah, for sure, absolutely, but hey, it is what 494 00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:37,039 it is, and I like playing the Blake Club Games, or at least 495 00:30:37,119 --> 00:30:38,119 I like the idea, and then once I start playing and we'll see what 496 00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:44,960 happens. It can't be surprisingly fun. Yeah, for the first ten minutes 497 00:30:45,799 --> 00:30:49,440 exactly. Burrito says, salute your major up, Lieutenant Tokto on deck. 498 00:30:51,079 --> 00:30:55,000 Thank you, Brito, njor Mitch. Oh yeah. Sumi Mech says spending 499 00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:56,920 real money to show that the love for grounded is real. I believe you, 500 00:30:57,000 --> 00:31:00,279 mex thank you very much. You should an't say something about I had 501 00:31:00,279 --> 00:31:06,799 no idea. They just assumed you were cool and new. Uh be Travi 502 00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:11,319 says, have either of you seen Suaka game slash Watermelon game on Switch? 503 00:31:11,559 --> 00:31:18,160 Japanese fruit matching game that's getting big for streamers Japanese store only fruit. Okay, 504 00:31:18,279 --> 00:31:19,279 I'll try it. Why is it pop? Is? There are there 505 00:31:19,279 --> 00:31:23,960 boobs in it? But it's popular for streamers? Probably not right, Let's 506 00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:26,640 see sweek. Well. I mean, I'm not like, I'm not saying 507 00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:30,799 nipples, Jeff, I'm saying boobs. You know. Oh I listen. 508 00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:33,559 You can't have you know me? Yeah? No, it's just cute fruit 509 00:31:37,039 --> 00:31:41,400 fruit. This reminds me of that game. There's another game with this fruit 510 00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:45,240 is not like boobs. Don't ruin boobs like that. How dare you, 511 00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:49,640 says Grounded for the game bess hall of fame. I guess, oh yeah, 512 00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:52,680 I live done that in a while. Yeah, we'll do. We'll 513 00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:53,920 do a Hall of Fame here before the end of that month. Yep, 514 00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:59,839 definitely. I don't know what's good like that. It's like, oh yeah, 515 00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:02,720 question mark nineteen ten, says Mike. Not believing Grounded is successful was 516 00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:07,039 on the same level of stubborn belief as dancing Super Mario Bros. Wonder is 517 00:32:07,039 --> 00:32:12,839 not mainline. All right, it's exactly the same. I believe it's successful. 518 00:32:13,039 --> 00:32:15,799 I believe it. I don't believe that it's I don't believe it's like 519 00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:21,960 believe that they're going into meetings at Xbox and be like that Grounded money just 520 00:32:22,039 --> 00:32:24,960 keeps coming in. We're riding high. Good Thank God for Grounded. You 521 00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:29,039 know, no, no, I just I don't believe that. I'm sorry. 522 00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:32,680 I checked the Steam stats on it and then lurking with Mike Girk and 523 00:32:32,799 --> 00:32:42,960 says I named my kid Grounded. It was such a incredible. Uh all 524 00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:45,400 right, then let'sten. I know it's an Xbox game and it's it's it's 525 00:32:45,519 --> 00:32:51,480 game pass. It's all time peak on Steam was thirty two thousand, and 526 00:32:51,519 --> 00:32:54,720 it's like daily peak is around five thousand to eight thousand. That's pretty okay, 527 00:32:54,759 --> 00:33:00,240 players, Yeah, players, concur that's pretty good. I believe that 528 00:33:00,359 --> 00:33:02,799 it was successful. Yes, I don't believe it was. I don't believe 529 00:33:02,839 --> 00:33:07,200 it's a monument success. Yeah, that's a check cfieves, let me check 530 00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:09,759 cfius. Yeah, let's see if the for comparison, like I would imagine, 531 00:33:09,759 --> 00:33:14,880 see if these would be like five games more popular than Grounded. So 532 00:33:15,079 --> 00:33:17,920 that's about that's about right. So like like the twenty four hour peak for 533 00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:22,480 Grounded today was almost five thousand, This is not quite five times more, 534 00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:27,920 but the CF Thieves is nineteen thousand. Okay, so that's its today peak. 535 00:33:28,359 --> 00:33:30,279 And whatever I was wrong. I thought like maybe Grounded like did nothing, 536 00:33:30,319 --> 00:33:32,400 So I was wrong for sure. Don't worry. There you go, 537 00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:36,160 I admit it. All right, that's it for the supertestor now if you 538 00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:38,039 all want to send in more super tests, we will be happy thread them. 539 00:33:38,079 --> 00:33:43,000 In fact, we will be obligated to. Uh yeah, that's the 540 00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:45,079 that's the contract that we've signed. All right, Thank you much for reading 541 00:33:45,119 --> 00:33:47,839 those We're gonna take another quick break while we get set up for Closest to 542 00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:55,119 the Messy Pin. We'll be right back after this. We're back more podcasts. 543 00:33:55,119 --> 00:34:00,160 You're welcome, Mike. We got a game to play and that it' 544 00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:04,799 it's time to hand the show over to Sean. Hello. Yes, it 545 00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:07,639 is time once again for everyone's favorite game show with the podcast Closest to the 546 00:34:07,679 --> 00:34:13,239 Messy Pin, which we have a very special one tonight. I'm very excited 547 00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:16,400 for and uh I'm glad that some of the conversations this episode have gone a 548 00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:22,239 certain way because it's Closest to the Messy Pin Dan Reichert Edition, everybody, 549 00:34:22,559 --> 00:34:24,840 damn it. I would like to give a shout to r Wolves and a 550 00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:34,440 Giant bomb Chat for suggesting this. So he's so handsome. This is presented 551 00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:39,719 by me Turbo Sean, powered by Game Informer, executively produced by Benji Bop. 552 00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:44,480 So here's how it's gonna go down. Each round you will be given 553 00:34:44,559 --> 00:34:47,079 a curfied retro game ten years or older. But here's the twist. This 554 00:34:47,199 --> 00:34:52,880 week, the goal is to predate the review score as Dan Reikert reviewed it 555 00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:59,960 at gamed for like this. This is how I like this as always music 556 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:02,480 closest the pen scoring system. Every point off that the guys are, they 557 00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:07,360 get one add to the score if they get exactly right, five deducted. 558 00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:09,719 The goal at the end golf roles is you want the lowest score possible, 559 00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:15,559 so first and foremost. Uh, you know, and I can't remember who 560 00:35:15,559 --> 00:35:16,719 won last time. It has been a little bit, so let me just 561 00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:21,840 flip a coin. I certainly, Jeff, he's been prob. I was 562 00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:24,960 on that wind streak there for a little bit other than anyway, so that 563 00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:28,639 works out perfectly. Okay, all right, so Mike, you will be 564 00:35:28,679 --> 00:35:35,920 telling me what you think. Dan gave mag massive action game on the PlayStation 565 00:35:36,039 --> 00:35:42,079 three January twenty sixth, twenty ten, based on one Dan for some reason. 566 00:35:42,679 --> 00:35:45,000 Let's see, it's a game where you shoot people, and Dan does 567 00:35:45,039 --> 00:35:47,719 have a simple mind like that, I don't think. I don't know if 568 00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:52,559 Dan has a lot of PlayStation three level I wonder if Stan like a kind 569 00:35:52,559 --> 00:35:54,880 of like one of those not not not Sonny haters, but you know, 570 00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:58,960 there was a there was a pretty big wave of people who are relatively down 571 00:35:59,039 --> 00:36:02,199 the PlayStation three. I could see Dan being up that he prefers his Xbox 572 00:36:02,559 --> 00:36:07,239 to the PlayStation five right now for multi platform games. Yeah, but I'm 573 00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:09,239 sure he also defin I mean, most people did prefer the three sixty to 574 00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:13,280 the Yeah, that's that's what I'm getting. I think that comes from that 575 00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:19,920 sort of thinking. Yeah, I'm gonna guess he gave it like a seventy 576 00:36:22,079 --> 00:36:24,840 seventy. Okay, Mitch is going with seventy, got it. I'm gonna 577 00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:29,639 go with the sixty eight a little bit lower, a little bit lower, 578 00:36:29,639 --> 00:36:31,599 a little bit lower right now. Like Dan mentions his scores every once in 579 00:36:31,639 --> 00:36:35,119 a while, I don't ever know how low he goes. This might be 580 00:36:35,159 --> 00:36:37,519 a bad right. This is also yeah, twenty ten video game reviews where 581 00:36:37,639 --> 00:36:43,519 seventy is like trash. Yes, okay, well, mag Massive Action Game, 582 00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:47,000 the game where Dan said an impressive player account can't overcome generic gameplay. 583 00:36:47,559 --> 00:36:52,760 He gave a seventy. Let's fucking get it, let's fucking go. Why 584 00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:59,320 don't you just marry him? God? Oh, we were buddying out over 585 00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:02,400 a day letterman stuff on Twitter last night. No man, Oh, yeah, 586 00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:07,400 we're best friends. Don't be jealous. Incredible, all right, Well 587 00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:12,239 they're Nemesis Nemeses. Anyways, so then that works out. Game number two, 588 00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:15,199 Jeff, A game to be clear, game of former is a one 589 00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:19,000 to one hundred scale. They use it, Yeah, is it? Game 590 00:37:19,079 --> 00:37:24,679 number two is border Lands to the Xbox three sixty version, released September eighteenth, 591 00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:30,719 twenty twelve. One. Dan Riker review, Jeff, Okay, Borderlands 592 00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:37,039 to I think there was a bit of a diminishing return from Borderlands one, 593 00:37:37,119 --> 00:37:42,880 but not much. I am gonna comn hmmm, let me think here, 594 00:37:44,639 --> 00:37:46,559 to be fair, because I read the resident chet Jeff, they are increments 595 00:37:46,559 --> 00:37:51,360 of like that's right, it's like nine point twenty five or nine five though. 596 00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:59,960 Uh, I'm gonna go with eighty eighty on the dot. Okay, 597 00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:02,920 Yeah, Mike, I bet he liked Borderlands too. I bet he would 598 00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:12,679 have thought it was pretty funny. I am going to say a ninety ninety 599 00:38:13,119 --> 00:38:15,639 that was a good game too. That's actually a good game Borderlands too, 600 00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:25,000 of which Dan called a genre blending triumph. Oh man, he gave when 601 00:38:25,079 --> 00:38:30,000 converted. Come on, that's the guy that has Dan written all over it. 602 00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:32,480 Yeah, funny because he hates that internet humor. I figured he would 603 00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:38,079 have hated us now, because like you know, that was a pioneer in 604 00:38:38,079 --> 00:38:43,840 internet humor. We all laughed at that horse named to Butthole or whatever back 605 00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:46,519 in the day. Yeah, when we're all a lot less mature, there 606 00:38:46,559 --> 00:38:49,679 was a game. That game got a lot of reviews like that. Nobody 607 00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:52,440 today's like that's one of the best games. Yeah, yeah, everyone loved 608 00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:57,079 it at the time. Absolutely, and yeah it's good. It is also 609 00:38:57,159 --> 00:39:01,880 of its time and some definitely all right. Game Umber three Mikey Donkey Kong 610 00:39:02,039 --> 00:39:07,639 Country returns on the Wei November twenty first, twenty ten one. Dan Reikert 611 00:39:07,679 --> 00:39:13,400 review. I'm trying to think of dance a Donkey Kong Country guy. He's 612 00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:15,400 a Nintendo guy, and a lot of people were so excited about this. 613 00:39:16,559 --> 00:39:22,679 I bet he did like it. I am going to say in but he's 614 00:39:22,679 --> 00:39:27,159 weirded about he's heard about is getting two d and now I bet he gave 615 00:39:27,159 --> 00:39:29,960 it a ninety. I bet gave it ninety this one in ninety ninety. 616 00:39:30,039 --> 00:39:36,559 Okay, I'll go with an eighty eight and hope I just get a spot 617 00:39:36,599 --> 00:39:40,559 on eighty eight. I don't see it happening. If I think, always 618 00:39:40,559 --> 00:39:47,199 say Mitch on this game scoreboard. By the way, maybe well, Dan 619 00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:54,400 Reikert said that Donkey Kong Country Returns is a retro's revival that eclipses the originals, 620 00:39:54,800 --> 00:40:00,960 and he gave it a ninety five. Jesus Wow, I really like 621 00:40:00,039 --> 00:40:02,480 that one. I thought it was really good when I played it too. 622 00:40:02,679 --> 00:40:06,599 I know he kind of got bored by it pretty quickly. I remember, 623 00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:08,960 did you play the Wii or three D pree yes version? Okay, Okay, 624 00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:13,360 me too. I know people like Tropical Freeze Bear, but I actually 625 00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:15,360 think I like that. People like Tropic Three's better, and I was like, 626 00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:17,360 yeah, that was fine. You're being real easy, a little too 627 00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:22,039 easy, all right. Well, approximately halfway through the game for the audio 628 00:40:22,079 --> 00:40:30,559 listeners, Mitchison at eight points on the board, Jefferson at twenty seven scoring 629 00:40:30,599 --> 00:40:35,519 system power of Dan Reicherd. I'm going to fly winning game, all right. 630 00:40:35,559 --> 00:40:37,679 Well, Jeff, it's your turn to pick first. I need you 631 00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:42,400 tell me what you think. Dan Record gave Hulk Hogan's Main Event on the 632 00:40:42,559 --> 00:40:46,639 Xbox three sixty in October on October eleventh, twenty eleven, based off of 633 00:40:46,679 --> 00:40:51,760 his one review. I don't know this game at all. I think it's 634 00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:53,840 a bad game, but I don't really know, so I'm just completely guessing 635 00:40:53,880 --> 00:41:00,159 blind here, and I'm gonna guess a forty five just to like give make 636 00:41:00,199 --> 00:41:02,159 a real chance here, give myself a shot. Well, it is, 637 00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:06,639 it's got to be that low because this is the awful Connects game. And 638 00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:09,920 Dan doesn't like Caul Kogan. Uh so I'm going to like go thirty. 639 00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:14,719 I bet he liked it even less than that. Okay, Jeff's going forty 640 00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:17,840 five, Mitch is going thirty. Well, haul Cogan's main event, of 641 00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:22,840 which Dan said, eat your viamins, say your prayers, and play literally 642 00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:28,960 any other game. He gave a ten. Whoah, yeah, man, 643 00:41:29,079 --> 00:41:35,119 that's awesome to give it that low. Props for using the full spectrum of 644 00:41:35,159 --> 00:41:38,639 the graded. Yeah, that rules. Do you think he still has his 645 00:41:38,679 --> 00:41:45,559 cannets? Yes? Absolutely up. If we madehim dress like Haulcogan, maybe 646 00:41:45,599 --> 00:41:52,800 problematic friendship would be over at that point. All right, Well, coming 647 00:41:52,599 --> 00:41:57,400 Slim is sixty two over here, Slim sixty two on Jeff's side, that's 648 00:41:57,480 --> 00:42:04,119 right. Going into the final game, Mike, it's your pick four Dead 649 00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:09,960 or Alive Paradise on the PlayStation Portable March thirtieth, twenty ten. Yeah, 650 00:42:10,039 --> 00:42:14,519 Dan is not a pervert at all. I gotta say that about him. 651 00:42:14,519 --> 00:42:17,719 He is not swayed by the bikinis, you know, like I actually like 652 00:42:19,039 --> 00:42:22,559 kind of really liked it. Or Alive Extreme each volleyball. He wouldn't fall 653 00:42:22,599 --> 00:42:24,320 for it. No, he was probably not impressed. He probably gave it 654 00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:30,039 like a fifty five. Fifty five. I am forty away, so I 655 00:42:30,079 --> 00:42:34,719 don't really have a chance no matter what here, So I guess I'll have 656 00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:38,239 to go with a let's see, let's actually do the math here. If 657 00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:42,800 you're a fifty five, gotta hopefully another ten again or something, yeah, 658 00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:45,519 exactly, and there's no chance of that. But I'm just gonna I'm gonna 659 00:42:45,519 --> 00:42:49,480 have to try, no matter what. So let's hear that. That's thirty 660 00:42:49,519 --> 00:42:52,000 four, right, So if you get you know, quite a ways away 661 00:42:52,039 --> 00:42:54,480 and get perfectly correct, yeah yeah, yeah for sure. But that's that 662 00:42:54,559 --> 00:43:02,320 seems unlikely, So I will go with a twenty twenty okay, okay, 663 00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:07,199 well, Better Alive Paradise, a game I didn't know existed. I knew 664 00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:12,039 I know about Better Alive games because I'm fighting game guy. I knew about 665 00:43:12,079 --> 00:43:14,800 the extreme stuff because it's you know, it's a pervy haha joke. I 666 00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:16,440 had no idea this game existed, actually, and I looked into it. 667 00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:21,400 Apparently this is the game that moved it all into the like ultra pervy territory. 668 00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:27,239 Dan Reikert called it, or said of it, creepiness abounds in gaming 669 00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:36,840 equivalent of softcore porn, which is not wrong. He gave it a forty 670 00:43:37,079 --> 00:43:43,440 yep, yep, that's probably It's actually probably right around where I would have 671 00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:46,280 guess if I had any chance of getting closer, which means that Mitch wins 672 00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:55,519 forty three to Jeff's eighty two. Either of you over here before before we 673 00:43:55,719 --> 00:44:00,079 go, Yeah, I'm a little nift that Mike figured it out. But 674 00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:05,360 yes, Game of Foreigner uses a forty point scale, and so we had 675 00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:07,960 to editorialize a little bit. Don't give Dan a ship on something scores, 676 00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:10,400 but we had to convert some scores and whatnot to make this all work. 677 00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:15,079 Okay. Once again, thanks to our wolves for the idea, and thanks 678 00:44:15,159 --> 00:44:20,400 to Bop for uh working with me and put this one together all right, 679 00:44:20,519 --> 00:44:23,880 So good congratulations Mike. That was that was a couple of those you got. 680 00:44:24,239 --> 00:44:28,320 You got that first one spot on and then you got all the ones. 681 00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:30,199 You were like pretty close in those first three ones and then the wild 682 00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:34,280 ones you did really sure, Like you know, I knew he didn't like 683 00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:38,239 I'll cook and didn't know he gave it a ten spiritually correct, which is 684 00:44:38,519 --> 00:44:40,960 exactly so. Yeah, that was a lot of fun. Thank you guys 685 00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:45,599 for that. That was that. That's very cool. We will keep going 686 00:44:45,679 --> 00:44:50,079 here. What do we got We're gonna do the dude Rushmore video game villains? 687 00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:52,639 Yeah, all right, so you know what, let's get set up 688 00:44:52,679 --> 00:44:55,079 for that by fixing this. We'll be right back one more time. See 689 00:44:55,119 --> 00:45:02,400 all very soon we're back and we are going to do a mount Rushmore of 690 00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:07,880 video game villains. That means we are going to try to pick four of 691 00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:13,639 the most important, most influential, however, we need to define it to 692 00:45:13,679 --> 00:45:15,199 get him up on the on this mountain. That's what we're gonna do. 693 00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:20,599 We considered a top ten, but I don't. For some reason, Mount 694 00:45:20,679 --> 00:45:22,199 Rushmore just makes more sense for me for something like this, where it's like 695 00:45:22,519 --> 00:45:25,119 I don't want to have to decide, oh, this one's slightly better than 696 00:45:25,199 --> 00:45:30,159 that one for number seven and number eight. That's silly to me, I 697 00:45:30,159 --> 00:45:32,039 think. I guess I'm just worried there might be like three obvious ones and 698 00:45:32,119 --> 00:45:36,679 then fighting for less place maybe maybe maybe not. We'll see it. Maybe 699 00:45:37,159 --> 00:45:39,079 we'll see We'll see what happens, and we can always we always can reserve 700 00:45:39,119 --> 00:45:42,199 the right if we want in the middle of it, we want to change 701 00:45:42,199 --> 00:45:45,719 it to a top ten whatever, we'll do that. Uh okay, Mikey, 702 00:45:45,559 --> 00:45:50,280 what do you got for video game villains? Yeah, I think we 703 00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:54,840 should probably include that Bowser fella. Yeah, Bowser seems pretty likely. I 704 00:45:55,519 --> 00:45:59,760 almost would consider him a George Washington like figure. Yeah, Oh, of 705 00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:04,159 course, absolutely, the George Washington like what we're what we're famous vide game 706 00:46:04,239 --> 00:46:09,320 villains before this, a ghost from pac Blinky right, yeah, but like 707 00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:16,159 then than a villain. To be honest, Bowser very malleable, right, 708 00:46:16,239 --> 00:46:19,920 he couldn't. You couldn't make him actually threatening. If you want to, 709 00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:22,000 you can have him just be a goober. You can even have him be 710 00:46:22,039 --> 00:46:25,880 a sort of like an easy ally in ways that is a lot of fun. 711 00:46:27,119 --> 00:46:30,440 The characterization of Bowser has only gotten better throughout the years. Like you 712 00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:34,840 know, he was the highlight of the movie in part because of Jack Black 713 00:46:34,840 --> 00:46:37,559 Ben apart because that is actually kind of a fun character. Yeah, I 714 00:46:38,159 --> 00:46:43,639 agree, I think that I don't know just so that it's it's always fun. 715 00:46:44,039 --> 00:46:46,800 They alway funny way to make Bowser fun. And I think he's just 716 00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:50,920 iconic and there's a reason they keep using him. It's because he works and 717 00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:52,360 they don't. They didn't really kind of get anything wrong with him, so 718 00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:55,199 then keep going back to that well over and over again, and it's always 719 00:46:55,280 --> 00:47:00,119 just fine. I think the one I want to throw out there, because 720 00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:04,039 you're right, we might end up with just like four that are obvious, 721 00:47:04,119 --> 00:47:05,880 but I think I think I want to throw this one out there early. 722 00:47:06,159 --> 00:47:10,360 Albert Wesker, I think is a pretty uh uh, pretty I don't know. 723 00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:14,079 He's the guy I think of was like when I'm like trying to think 724 00:47:14,119 --> 00:47:15,920 of a human villain, He's the one that comes to mind first for me, 725 00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:20,559 even though there's a couple others from like from RPGs I think might rank 726 00:47:20,639 --> 00:47:22,880 up there even higher, but for me, al but Wesker definitely is someone 727 00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:27,760 who's in play here here Okay, so you know, I've been very into 728 00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:34,880 Resonuva lately. My problem with Wesker is that he is not scary at all, 729 00:47:35,159 --> 00:47:42,000 even sure like he's kind of he's a goober. Yes, and in 730 00:47:42,119 --> 00:47:46,159 Rezie will five, he just becomes Agent Smith for some reason. Well because 731 00:47:46,159 --> 00:47:50,119 the Matrix. So yeah, I think, well, they watched the Matrix 732 00:47:50,199 --> 00:47:52,880 like ten years after it came out, and then we're doing an exact copy 733 00:47:52,920 --> 00:47:57,599 of that. I might fight a little. I don't know. We'll see, 734 00:47:57,639 --> 00:48:00,760 we'll see. I get it for sure. It's a big for me 735 00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:05,000 video game villain being a goober is a big part of that. I think, 736 00:48:05,320 --> 00:48:09,079 uh, something about that is like if because the Resident Evil. A 737 00:48:09,119 --> 00:48:13,239 lot of it is scary, but a lot of it's hokey and chizy. 738 00:48:13,800 --> 00:48:16,960 Man I and the fact that Albert Wesker always showing up is always going to 739 00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:21,559 get a pop. I don't know. I think he fits in well here. 740 00:48:21,679 --> 00:48:22,760 I don't know if he's going to fit in well enough to stick stick 741 00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:27,559 around. He's worth of consideration, He's definitely worth He's definitely in the mix. 742 00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:34,159 I would say, all right, what do you got this? I'm 743 00:48:34,159 --> 00:48:36,400 almost like, when I talk this one out more than put it in, 744 00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:39,679 because like Seph Roff, seems obvious and almost simwhere to Wesker. I have 745 00:48:39,880 --> 00:48:45,400 issues with Seph Rock, but from a from a Mount Rushmore perspective. Maybe 746 00:48:45,559 --> 00:48:49,360 I've said this before and I guess I'm pushback, but I still believe this 747 00:48:49,840 --> 00:48:52,840 seph Roff kind of makes fin off Fantasy seven a worse game, Like it 748 00:48:52,960 --> 00:49:00,440 starts off as focusing very heavily on the eco terrorism and like the antiqu operation 749 00:49:00,599 --> 00:49:02,639 side of things, and then once sep Rov gets more and more involved, 750 00:49:02,679 --> 00:49:07,519 it becomes more seph Rof's going to destroy the world because he's very evil, 751 00:49:07,119 --> 00:49:12,920 so we should stop him. So he's very iconic, and obviously the design 752 00:49:13,199 --> 00:49:15,960 is great. There's a lot of like really very memorable, incredible theme song, 753 00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:22,760 but as a character sometimes like, yeah, it's like, I get 754 00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:25,639 why is this popular? He's kind of like the spawn of video game villains. 755 00:49:27,079 --> 00:49:30,719 I I agree, I think I think that. I mean, hang 756 00:49:30,760 --> 00:49:37,119 on just for one second there. The guy on this podcast Want is literally 757 00:49:37,320 --> 00:49:42,639 the like anti like eco terrorism, Like he flips it on them because his 758 00:49:42,800 --> 00:49:47,440 whole goal is to consume the planet for his his alien mother thing. So 759 00:49:49,199 --> 00:49:52,440 the eco terrorists have to flip it on like, oh shit, we actually 760 00:49:52,519 --> 00:49:54,719 have to save the planet instead. Yeah, and that wasn't nearly as interesting 761 00:49:54,760 --> 00:49:59,920 as I'm actually having to fight against actual problems that we might encounter as human 762 00:50:00,760 --> 00:50:07,559 Kepka poison that that lake or whatever that goes much better? Is Kepka is 763 00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:14,880 just like actually just straight up evil and loves it right easy seeds. Is 764 00:50:14,920 --> 00:50:17,400 there any chance we can put Keka on this list instead of stuffer Off? 765 00:50:19,159 --> 00:50:22,800 Oh boy, that I'd be checking even saying Kept is a better better pick, 766 00:50:22,800 --> 00:50:25,920 because better kept the better. I think if if Asus the fan fantasy 767 00:50:27,000 --> 00:50:29,480 fans, I think, yeah, kep cons better. Keps a better villain 768 00:50:30,119 --> 00:50:34,159 the whole, the whole he is he going from the hero of the entire 769 00:50:34,239 --> 00:50:36,800 world to be like the guy who's going to destroy it. That is, 770 00:50:37,239 --> 00:50:39,440 you guys are using up your chances to interrupt this podcast, so use him 771 00:50:39,480 --> 00:50:43,960 wisely, all right, Okay, But like that's like Sifter is, like 772 00:50:44,480 --> 00:50:49,480 there is a cool character from like being like the best soldier of them all 773 00:50:49,559 --> 00:50:52,320 to becoming like this fucking in the world. Like so because he was a 774 00:50:52,360 --> 00:50:59,920 good guy he turned heel Yeah, yes, I think who like wh when 775 00:51:00,079 --> 00:51:05,840 this one Christian? I agree San what you said chat for Mount Rushmore specifically, 776 00:51:05,920 --> 00:51:07,960 that does I can't make me. Yeah, we get seph Roth for 777 00:51:08,079 --> 00:51:12,840 Mount Rushmore. I just that's the only reason that I think that he would 778 00:51:12,880 --> 00:51:15,199 be the I mean only one of them was an air guy's god bless the 779 00:51:15,239 --> 00:51:22,719 Ring or whatever, the true sign of the most iconic game with only the 780 00:51:22,760 --> 00:51:27,119 most iconic characters. Uh. But I still part of me wants to just 781 00:51:27,159 --> 00:51:30,639 say, fuck it, it's our list and we can put the gut was 782 00:51:30,679 --> 00:51:31,880 way better. I mean, I'm okay, I'm just gonna put both up 783 00:51:31,920 --> 00:51:37,360 there and we can and then we can see what the compromise by make sure 784 00:51:37,480 --> 00:51:44,159 by having nobody get what they want, maybe we'll see. Okay, let's 785 00:51:44,199 --> 00:51:50,639 see here. Uh, I mean, Gannondorf probably does to also be considered. 786 00:51:50,880 --> 00:51:54,000 Again, I'll just put Gannon there we go, because I feel like 787 00:51:54,400 --> 00:52:02,199 Sally, it's Gannondorf that pops, You're right before the Gannadorf from from time 788 00:52:02,599 --> 00:52:05,760 time. Yes, I did even really need it to keep being Gannon and 789 00:52:05,800 --> 00:52:08,039 almost kind of seems like this almost a lazy thing. But then like Gannadorf 790 00:52:08,159 --> 00:52:12,480 was when it became kind of cool and iconic and it was neat to see 791 00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:15,760 like somewhat different takes on that, like wind Waker had slightly more stoic, 792 00:52:16,119 --> 00:52:22,480 like almost like old wise man Gannandorf that was really cool. You know, 793 00:52:22,639 --> 00:52:24,360 we we just recently got the new take into the Kingo and that was good. 794 00:52:24,400 --> 00:52:29,679 I mean a ganadorf I don't probably from from an ockeren of time. 795 00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:34,880 Just him being in that castle and looking over it link through the window or 796 00:52:34,920 --> 00:52:37,480 looking at what you looking at Lakers all Da through the window and scaring them. 797 00:52:38,480 --> 00:52:42,239 I don't know, those moments are super burned into my brain as just 798 00:52:42,280 --> 00:52:45,239 like that's cool, that's interesting. I like this. He's scarier than Albert 799 00:52:45,280 --> 00:52:47,960 Wesker from the Horror franchise for sure, without a doubt. Yeah, absolutely, 800 00:52:50,639 --> 00:52:53,559 yeah, he's he's a really strong attender on this list, and I 801 00:52:54,119 --> 00:52:58,039 gannandorfrom Bowser on. Of course they're gonna be on there. It does feel 802 00:52:58,079 --> 00:53:00,920 like kind of damp. They probably should be, but we'll see. Yeah, 803 00:53:02,239 --> 00:53:07,920 ah okay, I feel like like, okay, here's one of my 804 00:53:07,079 --> 00:53:10,719 favorites. I guess I kinda to see what you think of and this people 805 00:53:10,719 --> 00:53:15,199 always is coming. I like Doctor Wiley quite a lot. Doctor Wawie, 806 00:53:15,360 --> 00:53:21,960 we must equickly man Ywie. Doctor Wawie. Uh. You know, he's 807 00:53:22,079 --> 00:53:25,000 he's been around forever. He's in a ton of games. He's always doing 808 00:53:25,039 --> 00:53:28,199 the same stuff, to the point where it's like, oh, my god, 809 00:53:28,360 --> 00:53:30,159 it's wildy again. We got mad and made fun of it. It 810 00:53:30,199 --> 00:53:34,119 got tiresome in the end, Yes, era then it got to points like 811 00:53:34,199 --> 00:53:37,519 no, we like when it's Wiley again. That's actually pretty funny. I 812 00:53:37,679 --> 00:53:40,679 just like that. His whole design is basically what if Albert Einstein was evil? 813 00:53:42,800 --> 00:53:45,679 Yes, I like it. I've always liked that design too, and 814 00:53:45,880 --> 00:53:52,239 I I think he's pretty close iconic. It's just it's a why Jeff for 815 00:53:52,400 --> 00:53:57,440 Wiley. W I l y thank you? I had that was like maybe 816 00:53:57,480 --> 00:54:04,079 an e Uh. Doctor Wiley's trouble is that he is in a game with 817 00:54:04,239 --> 00:54:07,320 one of the most iconic heroes and he doesn't quite stack up to Mega Man 818 00:54:07,440 --> 00:54:12,519 levels like and that's tough for Wiley. But I don't think that like hurts 819 00:54:12,599 --> 00:54:15,400 him too much here. But I'm also he's gonna have a tough time making 820 00:54:15,440 --> 00:54:19,159 the list. We've got one of the best NYS songs, Doctor Wiley, 821 00:54:19,559 --> 00:54:22,400 uh, level one for Mega Man two. Come on, that's his song, 822 00:54:22,559 --> 00:54:31,119 his name's in it. Congratulations Doctor Wiley. Okay, it's just another 823 00:54:31,239 --> 00:54:34,480 long shot. I've got a couple of ones that are maybe more obvious, 824 00:54:34,960 --> 00:54:37,199 but I'm I've been playing through these games, and I'm a big fan of 825 00:54:37,320 --> 00:54:44,280 him, Shao Khan. Okay, because I was thinking fighting game in general, 826 00:54:44,440 --> 00:54:47,159 Like I was thinking about this, who is the fighting game representative? 827 00:54:47,159 --> 00:54:50,800 Because I think a lot of people would say, I'm Bison, Yeah, 828 00:54:51,199 --> 00:54:58,159 are not a cure with uh A Kumakuma. I feel like Kuma is maybe 829 00:54:58,239 --> 00:55:00,920 not a villain after all. I don't know, don't quite get a Kuma's 830 00:55:00,920 --> 00:55:05,079 deal. Even though I play as a seam all the time, he's I'm 831 00:55:05,679 --> 00:55:09,840 it's it's like the rival. Yeah he's he's a shower. Yeah sure, 832 00:55:10,360 --> 00:55:15,519 but I don't know. Like Bison, He's iconic is good, but again 833 00:55:15,679 --> 00:55:19,360 kind of uninteresting, like he wants to take over the world. Okay, 834 00:55:20,000 --> 00:55:22,599 uh sure, I mean Shao Kan, I guess wants to take just wants 835 00:55:22,639 --> 00:55:25,000 to take over Earth, but he wants to take over Earth reme. His 836 00:55:25,159 --> 00:55:30,679 character design is also just great. I mean that guy actually looks pretty intimidating. 837 00:55:30,440 --> 00:55:35,119 Of all the people I would be least happy about seeing got my front 838 00:55:35,199 --> 00:55:37,920 door, I think Shao Khan would top that list. And I kind of 839 00:55:38,000 --> 00:55:43,719 do want a beefcake on this mountain, and he's like the best beefcake villain 840 00:55:43,760 --> 00:55:45,159 in video games. I think. I mean, there's maybe some others, 841 00:55:45,400 --> 00:55:49,760 but he's definitely up there. For me. I love Shao Khan. Every 842 00:55:49,760 --> 00:55:51,840 time I see him in these games, I'm just like, yeah, fucking 843 00:55:51,880 --> 00:55:55,920 a showcan let's go? Because he's also a goober with like all these guys. 844 00:55:55,960 --> 00:56:00,360 Are all these guys, even Gannondar a goobers? Not well, Kep 845 00:56:00,440 --> 00:56:01,280 has a bit of a goober. Yeah, I didn't come on it. 846 00:56:01,320 --> 00:56:05,400 He's just theatrical and stuff. Yeah, I guess I will say it's about 847 00:56:05,400 --> 00:56:09,079 Sephferrof not a goober. Yeah, okay, fair enough. Yes, maybe 848 00:56:09,079 --> 00:56:13,000 you could use a little goober and yeah that would only it's a video game 849 00:56:13,159 --> 00:56:15,440 villain. You gotta be a little bit of a goober. So yeah, 850 00:56:15,519 --> 00:56:19,320 Shoukhan, I just I just get really happy when I see him in a 851 00:56:19,400 --> 00:56:23,119 video game. What about GLaDOS, Yeah, that's that's what I was thinking. 852 00:56:23,199 --> 00:56:30,920 That's the more obvious one. I think that's I'm over her. That's 853 00:56:30,000 --> 00:56:35,920 the thing. You want too many cakes? A lie? Uh yeah yeah 854 00:56:35,960 --> 00:56:39,639 a little bit. Yeah, and like I think I don't it's maybe one 855 00:56:39,760 --> 00:56:44,320 note. The jokes are one note. Listen, the writing for GLaDOS was 856 00:56:44,599 --> 00:56:46,960 very, very good. It really was. It was so good that it 857 00:56:47,000 --> 00:56:52,440 did become really memified, and that does contribute to me getting a little bit 858 00:56:52,440 --> 00:56:57,320 tired of her. But also it's like if they made ten portal games and 859 00:56:57,480 --> 00:57:00,519 GLaDOS was the villain in every single one of them, that would get really 860 00:57:00,679 --> 00:57:05,039 tiresome. Sure, but they didn't do that. No, I know, 861 00:57:05,159 --> 00:57:07,199 but I just think I'm saying that she could not withstand that kind of like 862 00:57:07,280 --> 00:57:09,920 some of these villains they could do that with and have done that with. 863 00:57:10,119 --> 00:57:14,880 I don't know, I want to consider her. I was going to name 864 00:57:14,920 --> 00:57:20,559 her as well, so I mean, you know that that was a that 865 00:57:20,679 --> 00:57:22,480 style of humor was it is kind of like that. I don't know if 866 00:57:22,519 --> 00:57:28,280 calling it weedon't esque is appropriate, but it was. It was very witty, 867 00:57:28,559 --> 00:57:30,280 right yeah, yeah, very clever for the sake of being clever, 868 00:57:30,400 --> 00:57:34,519 a little very clever and cute, interrreverent and that worked. It worked for 869 00:57:34,599 --> 00:57:36,480 me a lot. Then I haven't played a while, I think I would 870 00:57:36,559 --> 00:57:40,119 so enjoy it. And you know, good Boston counter there too, and 871 00:57:40,199 --> 00:57:44,440 they do kind of flip it on its head an interesting way where she does 872 00:57:44,559 --> 00:57:47,599 the uneasy ally thing in Portal two, So that stuff kind of works. 873 00:57:47,960 --> 00:57:54,079 Yep. Let's see. Yeah, you go ahead, you go ahead. 874 00:57:54,559 --> 00:58:00,440 Yeah, I was gonna say Andrew Ryan, uh yeah, big worth maybe 875 00:58:00,559 --> 00:58:05,920 mentioning. I'm not like feeling the need to like rush him onto the mountain 876 00:58:06,039 --> 00:58:07,840 mountain or anything like that. But I don't know, what, do you 877 00:58:07,880 --> 00:58:13,480 think it was really interesting? There's yeah, I mean it's you know, 878 00:58:13,679 --> 00:58:15,639 it's just a guy's name. And I still always going to remember Andrew Ryan, 879 00:58:15,840 --> 00:58:19,639 Right, that's kind of impressive it its own, right, and even 880 00:58:19,719 --> 00:58:22,360 though like you're one on one time with him is really limited, you sort 881 00:58:22,360 --> 00:58:27,719 of feel his presence that entire game, right, there's something there. There 882 00:58:27,800 --> 00:58:32,159 is something to and Andrew Andrew Ryan for sure. We haven't gotten a metal 883 00:58:32,239 --> 00:58:36,639 Gear representation on Yeah, yeah, who are you thinking there? I think 884 00:58:36,760 --> 00:58:42,039 Slick What Snake is still still the one for me. Still, I got 885 00:58:42,119 --> 00:58:45,159 a Revolver also, I kind of got Wreckon to be like the villain of 886 00:58:45,199 --> 00:58:47,719 the franchise a certain point. Even then it's sort of convoluted. I like, 887 00:58:49,239 --> 00:58:52,360 aso fine, like what Snake was just actually good at being a villain, 888 00:58:52,480 --> 00:58:54,920 right, he has various plans and they you know, he has a 889 00:58:54,960 --> 00:58:59,719 personal connection to the hero. But and also you know, a lot of 890 00:58:59,760 --> 00:59:02,679 this kind of grudge his shoulder chip on his shoulder. He is definitely a 891 00:59:02,760 --> 00:59:08,039 goober, like how did you like my glasses? Like right, just an 892 00:59:08,119 --> 00:59:14,000 incredible performance, really fun encounters with them, like that bit at the end 893 00:59:14,039 --> 00:59:15,599 where you killed him, like choice, all right? That he shows up 894 00:59:15,960 --> 00:59:21,719 in an armored car is something still chasing you, h. Liquid Snake is 895 00:59:21,880 --> 00:59:23,800 just a lot of fun. I really like Luclas Steak is part of what 896 00:59:23,960 --> 00:59:28,480 makes Melgarsol one so likeable. I don't think that, you know, We've 897 00:59:28,480 --> 00:59:30,920 had some other good villains in that series, for sure, plenty good ones, 898 00:59:31,199 --> 00:59:36,920 you know, the Boss and Megasol three, but nothing really quite worked 899 00:59:37,000 --> 00:59:42,320 as well as Liquid Snake for me. All right, here's the one where 900 00:59:42,360 --> 00:59:45,800 I when I when I think about it, I'm like kind of ready to 901 00:59:45,960 --> 00:59:50,199 put them above just about everyone else on the list. Uh, Dracula from 902 00:59:50,239 --> 00:59:54,159 Castlevania. So I was thinking about this too, Dracula. Right. There's 903 00:59:54,199 --> 01:00:00,599 a few things there, Like one, it's it's literally draculam literally drag Yes, 904 01:00:00,719 --> 01:00:04,599 yeah, I know, but from the portrayal and symphony, the night 905 01:00:04,679 --> 01:00:08,480 is so strong on its own. That's the thing too. It's like Dracuo 906 01:00:08,559 --> 01:00:12,679 has been so many different things in Castle Van. It's kind of a mess. 907 01:00:12,760 --> 01:00:15,519 It's a different interpretation every time. But you're right, Like I do 908 01:00:15,719 --> 01:00:20,280 think of that Simpy the Night again, giant goober. I mean, you 909 01:00:20,360 --> 01:00:22,079 know, I know that opening by heart. I'll spare you this time, 910 01:00:23,280 --> 01:00:27,400 but gosh, I don't know why that it just works for me. I 911 01:00:27,440 --> 01:00:31,280 love that design too. He's kind of yassified. Yeah, real, yes, 912 01:00:31,760 --> 01:00:36,440 very pretty. It's kind of a zaddie. Okay, let's talk about 913 01:00:36,440 --> 01:00:37,239 it, Mike. Should we just do a top ten? We already have 914 01:00:37,320 --> 01:00:39,880 a ton of we have a ton of characters, and we have maybe a 915 01:00:39,920 --> 01:00:44,400 couple more than might get mentioned, and honestly, looking at it, it 916 01:00:44,519 --> 01:00:46,320 might be easier just to rank them, and that might be more. I 917 01:00:46,400 --> 01:00:49,960 might try to say that from the beginning, but I'm saying you're right, 918 01:00:50,039 --> 01:00:52,320 Mike. Now that I just said it out loud, I'm sorry. Just 919 01:00:52,719 --> 01:00:54,639 just if you say that more time, I think I missed it. Mike, 920 01:00:54,719 --> 01:00:58,480 you were correct that we should have made this a top ten. Okay, 921 01:00:58,800 --> 01:01:00,639 all right, sure, definitely do that. That's fine. Thank you 922 01:01:00,760 --> 01:01:07,199 so much for thank you for your graciousness for letting me do this. Yeah, 923 01:01:07,559 --> 01:01:09,320 absolutely, dude, that's great. Because now people can't yell at us 924 01:01:09,320 --> 01:01:13,800 about sepher Off because it's iconic even though it's honly. Yeah, that's great, 925 01:01:14,079 --> 01:01:15,320 Yes, this is that. That's actually the thing that made me want 926 01:01:15,360 --> 01:01:22,519 to do it the most. Very Yeah, exactly, Okay, Yeah, 927 01:01:22,599 --> 01:01:25,599 and there's still yeah, there's so plenty to consider, yes, Sar, 928 01:01:25,840 --> 01:01:30,280 for sure, let's see. I have a chance first before I just yeah, 929 01:01:30,440 --> 01:01:35,119 doctor Robotic, I like a lot robotic, A not man. That's 930 01:01:35,119 --> 01:01:38,199 an awful name. Yeah, I would say doctor Robotic. Yes, specifically 931 01:01:38,280 --> 01:01:42,760 the weird version of him in Sonica six, where he looks like a normal 932 01:01:42,880 --> 01:01:45,480 cub. Yeah, yeah, I don't. I just like him. I 933 01:01:45,639 --> 01:01:49,920 like his character design. He is great. I've always liked him. I 934 01:01:50,039 --> 01:01:52,239 think he's a big ground shape, he's big. The mustache. Uh, 935 01:01:52,800 --> 01:01:58,000 the whole plot of just turning little animals into robots, because why the fuck 936 01:01:58,119 --> 01:02:00,079 not? I don't know, Doctor robotan is fun. Yeah, and he 937 01:02:00,119 --> 01:02:02,960 was played by Jim Carrey. It was played by Jim Carrey, and none 938 01:02:04,000 --> 01:02:07,400 of these other assholes were Who would be the best? I think I think 939 01:02:07,880 --> 01:02:10,559 Jim Carrey playing Sephar would be inspired. I think I would. I would 940 01:02:10,599 --> 01:02:21,559 die Yeah, uh huh, pretty good. Yeah, have fun. I 941 01:02:21,639 --> 01:02:27,000 guess I don't know. What do you got, Mike? Okay, Diablo 942 01:02:27,320 --> 01:02:30,199 from Diabolo, I don't know, because he's just like evil personified. Yeah, 943 01:02:30,440 --> 01:02:32,960 I was like trying to think, like is there in a way that's 944 01:02:34,000 --> 01:02:36,800 like he was intimidating, especially like Dabble two. I thought it was really 945 01:02:36,840 --> 01:02:38,719 cool when I played him, kind of made him lame in three and then 946 01:02:38,760 --> 01:02:43,800 he's you know, he's not in for for good reasons. I don't know, 947 01:02:43,920 --> 01:02:45,920 like what would would there be a Blizzard presentation? People really like the 948 01:02:46,039 --> 01:02:50,920 Lynch King. I think the Lych King's a little what's the it's the big 949 01:02:51,039 --> 01:02:55,440 scary lady from StarCraft? Oh what? Kerrigan? Maybe maybe you're not You're 950 01:02:55,480 --> 01:02:58,920 not really a StarCraft guy. I know, No, I'm not. Karrigan 951 01:02:59,000 --> 01:03:02,239 was the one who turned then the Unevil Fighter in two and turned her into 952 01:03:02,400 --> 01:03:07,159 like Jesus. I think, yes, I think she was Jesus. That's 953 01:03:07,239 --> 01:03:08,599 right. Oh yeah, I forget all that. Yeah, not nothing from 954 01:03:08,599 --> 01:03:12,880 a Blizzard, I don't think. I don't know. Okay, Ridley right, 955 01:03:13,320 --> 01:03:17,920 yeah really yeah? Really even more than mother Brain Brain. But come 956 01:03:17,960 --> 01:03:22,400 on, when Ridley shows up in Metroid Prime, come on, it is 957 01:03:22,840 --> 01:03:25,480 real one of the best things in a video game, like every time he 958 01:03:25,559 --> 01:03:29,559 shows up. Oh yeah, even like gosh, like I don't remember much 959 01:03:29,559 --> 01:03:31,400 from Metroid Prime three corruption. I remember that boss by at the beginning when 960 01:03:31,400 --> 01:03:36,760 you're fighting Ridley while you're falling down, like it's freaking two towers and you're 961 01:03:36,880 --> 01:03:42,760 Gandaal fighting the ball Rog and super Metroid. Like Ridley is actually the hardest 962 01:03:42,800 --> 01:03:45,960 boss. Like that's the real skill check before you're allowed to go and beat 963 01:03:46,039 --> 01:03:51,199 the game. Just a cool design. He's like an alien tarodactyl and also 964 01:03:51,800 --> 01:03:57,039 a captain for something. Yeah, like he's in the military or the Space 965 01:03:57,519 --> 01:04:02,039 Space Pirate military. I guess really fucking rules and I'm great. I love 966 01:04:02,079 --> 01:04:09,840 it. So that's a that's a cool sci fi alien villain design just across 967 01:04:09,880 --> 01:04:12,880 the board. Here's actually one of my favorites. But it's a little weird 968 01:04:12,880 --> 01:04:15,679 because again, the role changes sometimes. I like King d d D quite 969 01:04:15,719 --> 01:04:21,400 a lot as a character. I love the design. That's d DD is 970 01:04:21,440 --> 01:04:25,559 definitely a villain, even though I know what you mean. Sometimes he's a 971 01:04:25,599 --> 01:04:29,000 buddy, but no, he's a villain first, yeah is it? Two 972 01:04:29,039 --> 01:04:31,719 e's for the d D d D two e's I think it's d D D 973 01:04:32,440 --> 01:04:38,000 Okay, it's kind of the same thing. I also like. I also 974 01:04:38,079 --> 01:04:40,960 like King k Rule quite a bit. I like kingk Rule as well. 975 01:04:41,119 --> 01:04:44,559 Yeah, he was actually one of my surprise seriit characters in the new Smash 976 01:04:44,599 --> 01:04:46,320 Brothers. Like that design of him in There is Great. Oh yeah, 977 01:04:46,480 --> 01:04:51,880 yeah that was. I mean I always like the advanced computer modeling design that 978 01:04:51,920 --> 01:04:56,719 they had in in Donkey Kong Country, but they captured that essence and then 979 01:04:56,719 --> 01:04:59,599 took it a little bit further with that led you astrade Jeff One for the 980 01:04:59,679 --> 01:05:01,960 d D all right. I thought it was right too. That's why I 981 01:05:02,079 --> 01:05:09,880 asked, all right, there we go the d all right, let's see. 982 01:05:10,199 --> 01:05:15,639 I don't can I say one? You were earlier today and I was. 983 01:05:15,800 --> 01:05:23,159 I couldn't stop thinking about the little guy. Yeah, Raymond. Everybody 984 01:05:23,199 --> 01:05:28,440 loves Raymond his name. Yes, I always think as him as like the 985 01:05:28,559 --> 01:05:30,480 villain of that of that game, But he's not. He's just like another 986 01:05:30,599 --> 01:05:34,119 underlink. Yeah, he's got he's got a little bit of a fortunate like 987 01:05:34,239 --> 01:05:39,599 Lieutenant Problem great great so is Ridley has been the main villain sometimes too, 988 01:05:39,840 --> 01:05:45,159 write and and Ridley's is Samusus Nemesis, right, like he that's why he 989 01:05:45,199 --> 01:05:50,199 keeps showing up because like he really works for all these different people and and 990 01:05:50,360 --> 01:05:55,000 just trying to make all this different stuff happen. But he is definitely like 991 01:05:55,719 --> 01:05:59,159 they have history, and that is like what race is Ridley above, I 992 01:05:59,199 --> 01:06:02,199 think Salas are ye I bet Leon Kennedy for Gott Sauzar's name, Like yeah, 993 01:06:02,360 --> 01:06:08,840 definitely, yeah, exactly, yeah, yeah, really killed her parents, 994 01:06:08,920 --> 01:06:10,880 right, Yeah, that's right, yeah, right, that's why they 995 01:06:10,920 --> 01:06:13,760 try to do that whole recond thing of same as being terrified of him and 996 01:06:13,840 --> 01:06:16,519 other m and people. Got right, Yeah, it was a very dumb 997 01:06:17,119 --> 01:06:20,960 pyramid head is what I was going to say. Oh yeah, Pyramid is 998 01:06:21,039 --> 01:06:28,400 real good. It's iconic. It's weird because that's like, right, it's 999 01:06:28,480 --> 01:06:30,360 kind of like an It's not just a normal enemy, I know, right, 1000 01:06:30,639 --> 01:06:35,199 but it's like a manifestation of I don't know, I just I don't 1001 01:06:35,199 --> 01:06:39,119 know. Is that's the only character in this if we put Pyramid here, 1002 01:06:39,119 --> 01:06:42,280 that'd be the only character that we just straight up sea have sex. And 1003 01:06:42,400 --> 01:06:45,440 again I think the very first moment we see them. In fact, I've 1004 01:06:45,480 --> 01:06:50,880 seen many of these characters have sex on some of course. Yeah, yeah, 1005 01:06:51,119 --> 01:06:59,440 yeah, probably interesting. Okay, then also in the list, yeah, 1006 01:06:59,679 --> 01:07:02,320 sure is kind of the same character. To be honest, I kind 1007 01:07:02,360 --> 01:07:04,719 of like I just forget what. Oh yeah, pyramid Head, Well, 1008 01:07:04,760 --> 01:07:10,599 Pyramidhead is more than I'm gonna make it. Yeah, I'm just gonna throw 1009 01:07:10,599 --> 01:07:13,960 it up there. And then I don't think Mistress would make it either. 1010 01:07:14,519 --> 01:07:16,239 Misstres is cool, but not not much. He doesn't have a lot else 1011 01:07:16,320 --> 01:07:20,559 going on. All right, Mike, I'm kind of running low on this, 1012 01:07:21,079 --> 01:07:26,480 uh a little bit. There's one, but it's like, I don't 1013 01:07:26,519 --> 01:07:29,360 know, do you would you do Darth Malick? You think Darth Mallock's that 1014 01:07:29,440 --> 01:07:32,639 good? Is that? Is that what makes that game good? That's pretty 1015 01:07:33,039 --> 01:07:39,480 good. Man, that's pretty good. Doesn't have a bottom jaw, He's 1016 01:07:39,559 --> 01:07:45,159 messed up. That's scary. How I spelled maw like Darth Malick. For 1017 01:07:45,280 --> 01:07:47,400 some reason, it actually really touched me, like because if you are like 1018 01:07:47,519 --> 01:07:51,159 super good Jedi, you can try to redeem him even at the end. 1019 01:07:51,280 --> 01:07:55,000 And I don't know why, like kind of like got me, Like he's 1020 01:07:55,039 --> 01:07:57,920 almost like, no, he like appreciates that. Though. I was like, 1021 01:07:57,960 --> 01:08:01,760 man, this characterization is great. Uh, yes, that's I agree, 1022 01:08:02,039 --> 01:08:04,280 and I think Darth Melock is definitely going to be a contender here. 1023 01:08:05,360 --> 01:08:10,800 I don't care for Handsome Jack, but that's me. Yeah, okay, 1024 01:08:10,960 --> 01:08:13,719 all right, I just wanted to make sure. Uh, and then I 1025 01:08:13,760 --> 01:08:16,720 don't know anything anything else. Well, I know you're not gonna go for 1026 01:08:16,840 --> 01:08:25,159 Neo Cortex. No, no, just know know, just to know. 1027 01:08:25,760 --> 01:08:30,640 Well, it's cool, but come on, like, I like, I 1028 01:08:30,720 --> 01:08:33,800 get it, I like, I like, I mean, look, it's 1029 01:08:33,880 --> 01:08:39,359 better than like, oh, how about the flood? How about you shut 1030 01:08:39,439 --> 01:08:42,319 up? How many times are you gonna throw a suggestion? Thank you for 1031 01:08:42,399 --> 01:08:50,039 your suggestion, Christian, I appreciate it. Wait, okay, doctor Nefarius 1032 01:08:50,079 --> 01:08:56,920 from Retching Clake, Yeah, I mean yeah, he was especially great in 1033 01:08:57,000 --> 01:08:59,520 that last one. That was the best boss way of that game was the 1034 01:08:59,560 --> 01:09:01,039 one you had with him in the middle of the game. Yeah. Absolutely, 1035 01:09:01,920 --> 01:09:04,960 man, there's I should replay that game. It's so good. Uh 1036 01:09:05,119 --> 01:09:10,079 okay, yeah, Doctor Nefarious. We did ask that the community. They 1037 01:09:10,119 --> 01:09:12,319 probably have some suggestions though. Yeah, I'll check it out. Let me 1038 01:09:12,920 --> 01:09:16,079 give me a second while I get that prepped. You go, there's that, 1039 01:09:16,680 --> 01:09:23,359 and then I'll bring it up right now, all right? Uh, 1040 01:09:24,520 --> 01:09:28,840 Like, Christian Cooks. What did Chris? What'd you even say in that 1041 01:09:28,960 --> 01:09:32,520 last one that I played? Because you were talking about a whole race? 1042 01:09:33,319 --> 01:09:40,479 Yes? Wow, you don't think it be important. I'm gonna get counseled 1043 01:09:40,520 --> 01:09:47,079 out. Okay, here we go. Uh Paperwolf five said Revolver. Awesome 1044 01:09:47,119 --> 01:09:51,159 lot, he's an S tier villain. Uh leah, but Spookier said, 1045 01:09:51,199 --> 01:09:55,600 someone else could bring your Gannendorfs or your sephar Offs or what have you. 1046 01:09:55,760 --> 01:09:59,520 Me, I bring a villain and a bestie all rolled into one, Goro 1047 01:09:59,720 --> 01:10:02,760 mod Jama and he is fabulous? Which which games? Is he a villain? 1048 01:10:02,960 --> 01:10:05,279 This is? Uh? Well, I don't. I know very little 1049 01:10:05,319 --> 01:10:09,079 about Youkuza, which I think this is your Cuza? I don't, Yes 1050 01:10:09,159 --> 01:10:11,720 it is. I'm afraid. Yeah, I thought he was your buddy, 1051 01:10:11,760 --> 01:10:14,640 but hey, I don't know. He's more like an italigonist. He's more 1052 01:10:14,680 --> 01:10:18,840 like a joker type deal. He's not like the Bill, but like he's 1053 01:10:18,920 --> 01:10:21,680 more like it. Is he like a wild card? Yeah, he's a 1054 01:10:21,760 --> 01:10:28,319 wildcard? Yes? Okay? Uh. Crans mcmasketball simply says Randy Pitchford. 1055 01:10:30,319 --> 01:10:32,520 Uh, return of the Boomer Boomer Den, that's a good name. Return. 1056 01:10:34,159 --> 01:10:39,720 I'm bringing everyone's favorite daddy crossed out and said, says villain to the 1057 01:10:39,760 --> 01:10:42,960 table, timeless, eternal, full of sorrow and pure evil. Dracula. 1058 01:10:43,560 --> 01:10:45,079 Uh yeah, hey, I'm I'm with you on that. I do love 1059 01:10:45,119 --> 01:10:48,079 that character portrait for Dracula. It's great, Yes, yeap, super hot 1060 01:10:48,600 --> 01:10:54,079 uh Adam g C says the mask guy from Majora's Mask what's his name? 1061 01:10:54,279 --> 01:10:57,640 Skall kids, Schall kids. Although MAJORA is the actual villain, the kid 1062 01:10:57,720 --> 01:11:00,680 just accidentally puts that mask on and you know gets it comes to jerk. 1063 01:11:00,760 --> 01:11:02,960 Now we just we could say Majory, but we're not gonna. What about 1064 01:11:02,960 --> 01:11:08,600 and Ross? No, whoa, Jeff, I got bad news for you 1065 01:11:09,000 --> 01:11:17,119 because Ross, his enemy is my anemy. Chaos Pump Pump Taboo says, 1066 01:11:17,279 --> 01:11:20,720 Hello John, And that's the dude from Red Dead Redemption too. Yeah, 1067 01:11:20,840 --> 01:11:24,800 I do like this character. Yeah, I can't remember the name right now, 1068 01:11:24,840 --> 01:11:32,720 which I feel like to qualify some no who came in with the Actually 1069 01:11:32,920 --> 01:11:39,159 it was Wrang. You're back in the hole. I don't play bad games. 1070 01:11:39,159 --> 01:11:42,479 You're right. This is like that time you gas let me about the 1071 01:11:42,600 --> 01:11:47,840 position of the GameCube Z button always be clothing slash cork, he says, 1072 01:11:47,880 --> 01:11:53,239 Jimmy Buffett from the twenty eleven Margaritaville Online. Jimmy said to have trapped players 1073 01:11:53,279 --> 01:11:56,920 on a porch of indecision. Oh yeah, that sounds like a very good 1074 01:11:57,000 --> 01:12:02,319 Villaine. Mister Bowl says Grunilda. The way she always talks to in rhymes 1075 01:12:02,479 --> 01:12:06,560 is fun. Uh yeah, that's that's fair. I like Gruntil a lot, 1076 01:12:06,720 --> 01:12:14,439 but I'm okay. Cas Casual says it's cursed Monkey Island's Chuck the list 1077 01:12:14,760 --> 01:12:16,680 Margaret the fell Omen is a great runner up, though, I guess we 1078 01:12:17,000 --> 01:12:21,439 woul considered a lot of soulsborn and villains. Let's see here, let me 1079 01:12:23,159 --> 01:12:28,239 that chuck, no, see in the second part of Chuck right, just 1080 01:12:28,399 --> 01:12:30,640 like that? Okay, I think it's a sea, actually, Chuck, 1081 01:12:30,720 --> 01:12:39,039 Okay, definitely there's a sea. All right. That's great. Uh. 1082 01:12:39,359 --> 01:12:42,680 Jeffrins says Ridley from Metroid. I get excited every time I see them on 1083 01:12:42,840 --> 01:12:46,000 screen. Colin says Odin from God of War Ragnarok. That's pretty good, 1084 01:12:46,800 --> 01:12:49,000 you know, God. I love Toby from the West Wing too, so 1085 01:12:49,840 --> 01:12:54,520 uh yeah, that's that's pretty good. The Once in Future Jason El says, 1086 01:12:54,720 --> 01:12:58,039 is it too too unfunny to say Bobby Kotick. If so, I'll 1087 01:12:58,079 --> 01:13:03,720 give it to Kefka same free enough epic Open World, says Elusive Man from 1088 01:13:03,720 --> 01:13:09,520 The Massive from Assfect Games. Uh. I like this one, but it's 1089 01:13:09,560 --> 01:13:13,760 not when I think about a lot, I don't know you, Hey, 1090 01:13:13,800 --> 01:13:15,920 do you not care for a mass effect all that much? I like? 1091 01:13:15,000 --> 01:13:19,000 No, I like mass Effect I do. I admit I rolled my eyes 1092 01:13:19,039 --> 01:13:23,479 at it for some reason. I even know why I don't have a my 1093 01:13:23,560 --> 01:13:26,239 eyes at it. I guess this is like something you know, how it 1094 01:13:26,399 --> 01:13:29,640 is some people really like something and you like it, but you're like, 1095 01:13:29,680 --> 01:13:31,720 why do you like it this much? And there's a lot of that for 1096 01:13:31,760 --> 01:13:34,920 mass aspect for mass Effect is very good. It does not deserve that from 1097 01:13:35,000 --> 01:13:38,920 me. It's obviously. Like even when I'm the remasses came out, I 1098 01:13:38,960 --> 01:13:41,600 was playing mass Effect one, Like, yeah, mass Effects one rules. 1099 01:13:41,600 --> 01:13:45,199 I like the fact. I like that goober from Mass Effect one, Sarah 1100 01:13:45,319 --> 01:13:47,920 or whatever, Sure, Saren. I like Saren more Lucy Man, which 1101 01:13:47,960 --> 01:13:51,840 is maybe a hot take. Yeah. Uh, Hamlet of Texas, says 1102 01:13:51,880 --> 01:13:56,560 the g Man from Half Life. It's pretty good. Yeah, g Man, 1103 01:13:56,680 --> 01:13:58,640 we still don't. The problem is it's been like a million years. 1104 01:13:58,640 --> 01:14:02,840 We still don't actually know what the g man wants me. What episode three 1105 01:14:02,920 --> 01:14:05,479 comes out, Mike, we'll get all those answers. Breen, though, 1106 01:14:06,159 --> 01:14:10,640 I love doctor Breen from Halfway two. Just that guy talking to you and 1107 01:14:10,680 --> 01:14:14,840 the computer remonders. Just a total shithead who sold out humanity. It like 1108 01:14:15,000 --> 01:14:18,560 dares to pretend like he's important. I love about the end when he's begging 1109 01:14:18,640 --> 01:14:24,840 with you right to stop. I love doctor Breen. We put him on 1110 01:14:24,840 --> 01:14:29,319 the list. I would like doctor Breen on the list is very good. 1111 01:14:29,479 --> 01:14:33,840 I like him. The brain all right. And then ham in Texas says 1112 01:14:33,960 --> 01:14:38,920 Warrior and r E E. And you thought his name was doctor. He 1113 01:14:38,960 --> 01:14:44,000 thought the bad guy from Halfways too. It sounds like you're saying doctor Brain. 1114 01:14:44,600 --> 01:14:47,800 Yeah, yeah, exactly, Ian, Okay, there we go. 1115 01:14:49,199 --> 01:14:54,079 Youah, no problem. Hammond of Texas says Warrior and Waaluigi take that, 1116 01:14:54,199 --> 01:15:02,640 mister eyeballs hell yeah you never. They never accomplished anything. I mean, 1117 01:15:03,000 --> 01:15:09,319 Marios stole Mario's castle one time. What is Mario doing with a can that? 1118 01:15:09,680 --> 01:15:15,479 Maris? All right? Sorry we play in the video. Uh all 1119 01:15:15,600 --> 01:15:19,039 right, yeah listen, Warrio WALLOWEENI here too. I don't know, yeah, 1120 01:15:19,039 --> 01:15:20,920 I think you can play ask them too much for me to think about 1121 01:15:20,960 --> 01:15:25,840 them that way. Uh b fam er the other player in every multiplayer game 1122 01:15:25,880 --> 01:15:29,199 I've ever played. Fuck that guy. That's a good point. I appreciate 1123 01:15:29,279 --> 01:15:31,520 that. Hey clink, said Senator Armstrong. The amount of quotes this man 1124 01:15:31,560 --> 01:15:35,239 put out from maybe an hour of on screen time is astounding. Some of 1125 01:15:35,239 --> 01:15:39,359 those coats are fake though, right, Yeah, sadly the one that was 1126 01:15:39,680 --> 01:15:43,479 what's your source? My sources? I made it the fun, but a 1127 01:15:43,560 --> 01:15:45,640 lot of it is. I mean, man, that's a good character, 1128 01:15:45,680 --> 01:15:48,960 and they're right, makes a ton of use out of limited screen time. 1129 01:15:51,000 --> 01:15:54,199 I got them up there. I want them up there. I like Senator 1130 01:15:54,399 --> 01:16:01,880 Armstrong. All right, Dan a machine Dando machine Son is real. It's 1131 01:16:01,920 --> 01:16:06,199 also coins to the make America great again. That's right, that is where 1132 01:16:06,239 --> 01:16:11,119 that came from. And Goalie says, easy answer, just like in real 1133 01:16:11,199 --> 01:16:14,199 life. It's Hitler. He sucks. Here's a video of him dying to 1134 01:16:14,239 --> 01:16:16,960 a nutshot in Sipe Sniper Elite cool. I meant to play that Sniper Elite 1135 01:16:17,000 --> 01:16:19,600 five and I never let around to it. Would you consider like robo Hitler 1136 01:16:19,720 --> 01:16:26,279 or whatever from Wolfenstein? Yeah, that's pretty good man, that's in Wolfenstein. 1137 01:16:26,800 --> 01:16:30,439 The new Colossus Hitler in that game is as like a really fun character, 1138 01:16:30,600 --> 01:16:34,600 that is, they do a great thing himself. Yeah exactly, but 1139 01:16:34,800 --> 01:16:39,800 no, we're all right. Villain Mack says me altered in answer. Psychomantis 1140 01:16:39,880 --> 01:16:44,640 best Spotify Gimmick's best name, best look character. Yeah it's a good name, 1141 01:16:44,680 --> 01:16:50,359 good look for sure. Tokyo Game Life says DJ Octavio Platoon, Yes 1142 01:16:50,439 --> 01:16:55,840 exactly. Jad o' lantern says, played Final Fantasy seven remake for the first 1143 01:16:55,840 --> 01:16:59,960 time this year and now I love one winged Angel fair enough. Yeah, 1144 01:17:00,159 --> 01:17:04,279 that can happen. Bench jac says the added villain for Persona five Royal is 1145 01:17:04,319 --> 01:17:08,840 easily the best villain of all time. He's extremely well written and you feel 1146 01:17:08,880 --> 01:17:12,199 for him and why he's doing what he's doing. That. I actually never 1147 01:17:12,199 --> 01:17:15,399 played Royal. I only beat base percent of five, so I'm not even 1148 01:17:15,439 --> 01:17:19,079 sure that is real. Quick. We've phrased it that way because it actually 1149 01:17:19,199 --> 01:17:23,720 is like, uh, the spoiler of the giant plot twistl the game, 1150 01:17:23,800 --> 01:17:26,960 but those who know no, So the way we phrased it that way, 1151 01:17:27,039 --> 01:17:32,520 I appreciate that. Uh inu fay says Albert Wesker from resident Evil Umbrella Corp 1152 01:17:32,760 --> 01:17:41,359 Should be considered since corporations are people's pretty clever h douminal crossing Eric Eric Sparrow 1153 01:17:41,399 --> 01:17:45,039 from Tony Hawk's Underground. Never, never in my life have I felt so 1154 01:17:45,239 --> 01:17:48,199 satisfied getting revenge on a fictional character, without question, what of the douchiest 1155 01:17:48,239 --> 01:17:54,680 characters ever conceived? Audible mention to Metroid Prime slash Dark Samus though, Yeah, 1156 01:17:54,760 --> 01:17:59,119 man, what Eric Sparrow on the list? Okay, I like that 1157 01:17:59,239 --> 01:18:01,399 a lot, good one. That's a really good pull. I mean put 1158 01:18:01,439 --> 01:18:04,000 that on. Yeah, I don't know there's a character I hated Warley? 1159 01:18:04,079 --> 01:18:12,000 Yeah, fuck that you wanted about Rushmore? Yeah that was absurd. Evo 1160 01:18:12,119 --> 01:18:15,159 Jana says, this villain teaches kids how to nickel and dime the masses, 1161 01:18:15,159 --> 01:18:17,600 which clearly makes him the most evil tom Nook, Well, wait second, 1162 01:18:17,640 --> 01:18:20,880 this is a villain and then you're saying capitalism is bad. Yeah, we 1163 01:18:20,960 --> 01:18:25,920 don't have that on this show. Velocity Prime says, the fact that a 1164 01:18:26,000 --> 01:18:30,319 doofy clown is perhaps the greatest antagonist in RPG history is quite remarkable. So 1165 01:18:30,439 --> 01:18:33,840 Kefka gets my vote. Yeah, it's definitely gonna have a strong chance. 1166 01:18:33,960 --> 01:18:40,720 Behind this list Wong Gifts is Lara Krafft from her early days exterminating endangered animals 1167 01:18:40,760 --> 01:18:44,840 and stealing artifacts from indigenous cultures to her role in the Reboot trilogy, where 1168 01:18:44,840 --> 01:18:48,439 her primary role is to be a dick to Jonah is the most insidious of 1169 01:18:48,479 --> 01:18:51,880 all villains. If you're hot in British you get a pass though. Yeah, 1170 01:18:51,920 --> 01:18:55,079 that's how that's how it works in real life. It sounded like the 1171 01:18:55,159 --> 01:18:59,600 rules. Yeah, that's just that it is everybody, Taniel is pointing to. 1172 01:19:00,319 --> 01:19:05,600 I believe yes s Sa Sa Su Yes six. Nothing has made me 1173 01:19:05,640 --> 01:19:10,880 quite as tense as the Sax encounters in Metroid Fusion. Yeah. Man, 1174 01:19:10,920 --> 01:19:17,640 that's a good one. Mex says, Show Minimum Mini Moto Minimum Moto from 1175 01:19:17,720 --> 01:19:20,760 the World ends with you for being a pretty anime boy who throws heaps of 1176 01:19:20,800 --> 01:19:25,640 garbage at you in a boss fight, all while yelling mathematical terms and equations 1177 01:19:25,680 --> 01:19:29,159 into a megaphone. I did like that guy. That was a good That 1178 01:19:29,319 --> 01:19:32,239 was a good villain. Lenny Cool Dick Denver says most people hate Jeff Jarrett 1179 01:19:32,239 --> 01:19:35,199 because of his booking in TNA. I hate Jeff Jarrett because of that shitty 1180 01:19:35,279 --> 01:19:42,399 TNA game on we my friends that me and my friends played man Vision fourty. 1181 01:19:42,520 --> 01:19:45,119 Now you attack my best friend Jeff Jarrett like this, though, that's 1182 01:19:45,199 --> 01:19:47,399 right, they were, They're very close. Vision forty says Lacky. The 1183 01:19:47,439 --> 01:19:51,119 good answer, my funny one is Dimitri, the French iguana that serves as 1184 01:19:51,159 --> 01:19:56,000 the boss of the first World in Sly Cooper two. He's goofy at hell 1185 01:19:56,079 --> 01:19:59,840 and him calling Sly raccoonist Dudis gets a laugh out of me every time, 1186 01:20:00,680 --> 01:20:02,880 uh, doctor Ryan says and out of the box take. The best villain 1187 01:20:02,880 --> 01:20:05,640 of all time is Joel from the Last of Us. As much as I 1188 01:20:05,800 --> 01:20:09,399 like him and can empathize with his story, he is still the epitome of 1189 01:20:09,439 --> 01:20:12,720 a villain. Joel is selfish and only cares about himself at the end of 1190 01:20:12,760 --> 01:20:15,520 the day, and a true villain always sees himself as the hero of historian 1191 01:20:15,560 --> 01:20:19,439 has endless justifications for his actions. He's the best villain because everyone forgot he 1192 01:20:19,680 --> 01:20:23,479 was one. Yeah, how do you feel about these ones where it's like 1193 01:20:23,520 --> 01:20:26,359 you're playing as the villain again? I mean, I don't know, like 1194 01:20:26,439 --> 01:20:29,760 I get that argument, I don't know if I completely buy it. Sure 1195 01:20:30,600 --> 01:20:34,560 villain, you know, protagonist villain you know, it's a it's a weird 1196 01:20:34,640 --> 01:20:39,119 moral choice that he has, right. The problem is like his dilemma is 1197 01:20:39,279 --> 01:20:43,920 such a complex one that it's hard to be like you are a like classic 1198 01:20:44,079 --> 01:20:49,960 villain in that sense. It I get it, uh for from Terioki Blues 1199 01:20:50,039 --> 01:20:55,159 gaunter O Dim from The Witcher three is one of the best modern villain villains. 1200 01:20:55,760 --> 01:20:59,560 Friendly yet terrifying, creepy yet charming. You can never quite get enough 1201 01:20:59,680 --> 01:21:02,720 again get quite a grasp of his true intentions, and he steals the show 1202 01:21:02,760 --> 01:21:08,600 whenever he is on screen. Let's see big Tony mentions Gannendorf. There you 1203 01:21:08,720 --> 01:21:12,960 go, Drachi says. The Akusa series is chock full of great villains to 1204 01:21:13,039 --> 01:21:17,720 choose from. My favorite is Kuz from Zero, an absolute bastard from the 1205 01:21:17,760 --> 01:21:21,479 beginning of that game to the end. That's what I want to play. 1206 01:21:21,560 --> 01:21:25,079 That's one people tell me I should be use the Accusa Zero is the one 1207 01:21:25,119 --> 01:21:29,560 to play. Laser Wolf says doctor Nefarius from Ratchet and Claike. He's the 1208 01:21:29,600 --> 01:21:32,319 perfect perfect goofy, cartoonish villain that tries over and over to get the best 1209 01:21:32,359 --> 01:21:36,279 of our hero. Yeah. He's like the best interpretation of like a ninety 1210 01:21:36,439 --> 01:21:41,199 like an early nineties kids cartoon villain, and I love that about him absolutely. 1211 01:21:41,960 --> 01:21:44,079 Show Ji Koto says, if this is a mount Rushmore, I feel 1212 01:21:44,079 --> 01:21:45,720 like the top villain would be a pretty solid luck. That said, I'd 1213 01:21:45,800 --> 01:21:49,520 like to just give a shout out to Oz from Far Cry three. He's 1214 01:21:49,600 --> 01:21:53,800 definitely one of the reasons I think three is considered a high point in the 1215 01:21:53,880 --> 01:21:57,279 series and one of the more memorable villains in the past decade or so. 1216 01:21:58,960 --> 01:22:01,479 Let's see so much. It feels like every villain of Farcrest basically just been 1217 01:22:01,600 --> 01:22:04,760 that. Yes, they feel like they have to just replicate that each time. 1218 01:22:05,279 --> 01:22:10,239 Spoon Having sixty four says it's animal crossings, animal crossings, Robbert Baron 1219 01:22:10,319 --> 01:22:15,079 raccoon for me, Tom Nook hallo Eden says Kwan Chi, which I love, 1220 01:22:15,399 --> 01:22:18,159 I love like, I like Quan Chi a lot, I love I 1221 01:22:18,359 --> 01:22:21,880 love this stupid ass. Yeah, man, look at this freak boy. 1222 01:22:24,119 --> 01:22:28,000 Sarah Kaine says, Emmitt selch and Final Fantasy fourteen is this is the one 1223 01:22:28,039 --> 01:22:30,000 ever said? Okay, this is the best character in finn famous character. 1224 01:22:30,079 --> 01:22:34,319 Yes, I agree about fourteen. Final Fantasy right now? Okay, all 1225 01:22:34,399 --> 01:22:38,279 fine, Finals, that's okay. Yes, And let me be clear here, 1226 01:22:38,359 --> 01:22:40,520 I like Immit Selch. Is that? How am I saying there? 1227 01:22:41,479 --> 01:22:44,760 Emmit Selk as a villain? I'm not one of those. Actually, imm 1228 01:22:44,760 --> 01:22:47,640 It Selk was totally justified in doing multiple genocide weirdos. Yeah, that's true. 1229 01:22:47,720 --> 01:22:49,600 No, he was the villain. Man. It's a good character. 1230 01:22:49,880 --> 01:22:54,159 Multiple genocides, all right, I mean I could be my only I mean, 1231 01:22:54,600 --> 01:22:58,039 yeah, my only shoes, like because he's because he is from the 1232 01:22:58,199 --> 01:23:01,520 third expansion, like you are going to be a final Fantasy fourteen. Pretty 1233 01:23:01,560 --> 01:23:04,720 big fan to know who that is, right it? But god, it's 1234 01:23:04,760 --> 01:23:08,399 a good character. I probably have to give some lip service to him, 1235 01:23:08,720 --> 01:23:13,520 Okay. Matt Raremunky says, since Magimo was already mentioned, mister X from 1236 01:23:13,520 --> 01:23:16,079 Streets of Rage two the only man with a gun? That's I mean, 1237 01:23:16,319 --> 01:23:18,439 yeah, I like the character. I like to dre shoe there. Just 1238 01:23:18,520 --> 01:23:23,880 really isn't that much from mister X. It's just the final boss. Low 1239 01:23:24,000 --> 01:23:28,560 Rule says, insert one winged angel chorus here. T money Og says, 1240 01:23:28,600 --> 01:23:31,680 Oh man, fowful, the mustard of your doom, fawful, godawful. 1241 01:23:32,039 --> 01:23:35,840 Do you think they over did Fofful after the first one? We had one 1242 01:23:35,880 --> 01:23:40,760 million percent. Yes, absolutely, like yeah, yeah, every every time 1243 01:23:40,800 --> 01:23:42,960 they went back to the Well and Faughful, it was definitely like, oh 1244 01:23:43,119 --> 01:23:45,520 hey people love fafful, just cram them back into this game, which, 1245 01:23:45,560 --> 01:23:48,239 hey, I'm not really complaining, but if you're actually if they overdid it, 1246 01:23:48,359 --> 01:23:50,399 you're yes, you're right, that's exactly what it was. But it 1247 01:23:50,520 --> 01:23:53,640 was great. I get one's still fun. I still like seeing him. 1248 01:23:54,920 --> 01:23:58,640 Redfish says, tell me, doctor Freeman, if you can, you have 1249 01:23:58,720 --> 01:24:00,640 destroyed so much, what is it exactly that you have created? Can you 1250 01:24:00,760 --> 01:24:03,960 name me the one thing? I thought, not Jeff, the first time 1251 01:24:04,000 --> 01:24:09,000 I played Halfway two, I thought that was the coolest bad guy quote ever. 1252 01:24:09,880 --> 01:24:12,119 That was like, you know, people freak got about like the things 1253 01:24:12,159 --> 01:24:16,520 the Joker says. I was like, that was amazing. Oh my god, 1254 01:24:18,119 --> 01:24:24,560 Super Harman says Adrian Ripberger probably isn't to most of isn't the most memorable 1255 01:24:24,640 --> 01:24:27,920 villain voiced by Mark Hamill. But the guy does bludgeon his boss to death, 1256 01:24:27,960 --> 01:24:30,800 which is pretty brutal. Rip Burger, that's a great name. He's 1257 01:24:30,800 --> 01:24:32,600 the bad guy from Full Throw. It was a couple other great Lucas arts 1258 01:24:32,600 --> 01:24:38,000 at Ventrigan villains I like Purple Tentacle quite a bit. From the Tentacle, 1259 01:24:38,199 --> 01:24:42,039 Let's chuck will probably wrap all of them, though, ge Gus, this 1260 01:24:42,159 --> 01:24:46,279 is from a crouching Kringle hitting Crampis. Gigas is incomprehensible at best and Eldridge 1261 01:24:46,319 --> 01:24:49,880 at worst. I don't even know what the purpose for its existence is. 1262 01:24:50,039 --> 01:24:54,760 I don't even know what I could say other than it's actually extremely terrifying for 1263 01:24:54,840 --> 01:24:58,960 a Super Nintendo villain. Uh. Yeah, that's that's that's messed up. 1264 01:24:59,319 --> 01:25:00,640 I'm looking at this images. If that's what the boss fight looks like, 1265 01:25:00,720 --> 01:25:05,079 that's wild. Uh. Doctor Lynch says Turbo Shan. I think that's worth 1266 01:25:05,119 --> 01:25:12,680 considering. Did did I kill you in Halo today or something? Doctor screaming 1267 01:25:12,760 --> 01:25:18,640 Madden is gonna Kazuya or I can't remember the name of the death believe he 1268 01:25:18,760 --> 01:25:21,640 Hachi, There we go, Hey Hachi, that's a good that's a good 1269 01:25:21,680 --> 01:25:26,119 fighting game villain right there for sure. Uh. And then Turbo Shan says 1270 01:25:26,319 --> 01:25:31,880 Giovanni or in are the correct Pokemon answers, but shout out to Lucimnelimine. 1271 01:25:32,119 --> 01:25:38,880 Lucimine from Sun and Lumine. It's a Lucimine from the Sun in That Moon. 1272 01:25:39,760 --> 01:25:43,359 She's the best kind of hero of her own story, only the antagonist 1273 01:25:43,439 --> 01:25:46,319 to the player character because of difference of ideals, going to extreme links to 1274 01:25:46,399 --> 01:25:53,159 advance science and save her family. Also, she's literally mommy there she is 1275 01:25:53,239 --> 01:25:58,840 everybody take a look. Spooky Christian God from Persona from the Persona series and 1276 01:25:59,039 --> 01:26:03,319 Real Life, or the end Singer from Final Fantasy fourteen. If a fourteen 1277 01:26:03,399 --> 01:26:06,199 that's once could be myself. All right, we definitely have enough to work 1278 01:26:06,239 --> 01:26:10,359 with here now, Jeff, I believe, yes, we do. Okay, 1279 01:26:11,199 --> 01:26:14,279 So I'm gonna expand this for myself. It's probably gonna mess things up 1280 01:26:14,279 --> 01:26:16,039 a little bit real, but that's fine. There we go, Okay. 1281 01:26:16,880 --> 01:26:20,920 I like most of the people, most of the characters on this list. 1282 01:26:23,079 --> 01:26:27,159 I wonder if there's like a consensus number one. It seems like that might 1283 01:26:27,199 --> 01:26:30,840 be tough. But what are you feeling? Probably just Bowser. I'm okay 1284 01:26:30,920 --> 01:26:33,199 with that. I think that's right. Yeah, this is like I said, 1285 01:26:33,279 --> 01:26:36,640 very Bowser could be so many things and always feels right right. Actually, 1286 01:26:36,680 --> 01:26:40,199 oh, I can't believe they did not With Bowser, it's always good 1287 01:26:41,039 --> 01:26:44,760 and he's definitely been You're right, he's been like, you know, not 1288 01:26:45,039 --> 01:26:49,560 actually scary, but like intimidating. And then he's definitely been the funniest character 1289 01:26:49,680 --> 01:26:53,800 on this list, which I think is pretty a cool thing that that a 1290 01:26:53,880 --> 01:26:58,840 villain can have that kind of range. Uh yeah, just so for for 1291 01:26:59,479 --> 01:27:00,760 the rest of this list, I mean, god, there's so much to 1292 01:27:00,800 --> 01:27:03,079 pick from. I guess maybe should we just decide what's going to be in 1293 01:27:03,119 --> 01:27:06,880 the top ten? Do you want to like move one up? Yeah? 1294 01:27:06,960 --> 01:27:10,079 Sure, we can even like you can even try to do it in order, 1295 01:27:10,119 --> 01:27:12,239 Like, what do you think number two will be? So let's say, 1296 01:27:12,239 --> 01:27:15,159 you know, we can adjust later. I mean I think I say 1297 01:27:15,199 --> 01:27:17,319 what I think number two should be? All right, yeah, go ahead, 1298 01:27:17,520 --> 01:27:21,279 I think you'll agree. So uh Ridley, Yeah, I love I 1299 01:27:21,359 --> 01:27:27,479 love that. Yes, I love Ridley. There we go. Okay, 1300 01:27:27,520 --> 01:27:32,119 so we have Bowser and then Ridley. I I personally would put Dracula up 1301 01:27:32,159 --> 01:27:35,199 there a number three, but I'm gonna be I'm gonna be okay if directly 1302 01:27:35,279 --> 01:27:38,640 just mix the top ten mic if that's yeah, he's gonna make the top 1303 01:27:38,680 --> 01:27:40,720 ten. So you can go ahead and put them at number three at least. 1304 01:27:40,960 --> 01:27:45,159 Okay, we'll just think that's fine for now. Okay, it's good. 1305 01:27:46,319 --> 01:27:48,399 Let me see that whole short list again. Okay, I see, 1306 01:27:48,640 --> 01:27:50,760 yeah, are you here? Let me try to see if I can know 1307 01:27:50,880 --> 01:27:59,680 little delay for me. I hmm, I would at this point probably say 1308 01:28:00,119 --> 01:28:02,520 kef Cut. Actually, yeah, that sounds right to me as well. 1309 01:28:02,600 --> 01:28:08,079 Actually, that looks so far that list looks really correct, And that looks 1310 01:28:08,119 --> 01:28:12,760 like the Mount Rushmore right there by the way probably would have been that. 1311 01:28:12,840 --> 01:28:15,920 Might that would have probably been it, That would have been the Mount Rushmore. 1312 01:28:15,399 --> 01:28:17,800 Uh, maybe Ganandorf would have been up there. I don't know, 1313 01:28:18,079 --> 01:28:24,439 we probably yeah, might have might have had ult Yeah, that's probably right. 1314 01:28:24,520 --> 01:28:26,520 But I'm glad what we have right now. So I mean, does 1315 01:28:26,560 --> 01:28:30,680 that mean Ganadorf should get up? Go up now? Yeah? Okay, 1316 01:28:30,399 --> 01:28:33,439 so right now everybody, we have Bowser, then Ridley, Dracula, kef 1317 01:28:33,520 --> 01:28:36,760 Cut, and Ganadorf. Those aren't locked into position or anything yet, but 1318 01:28:38,039 --> 01:28:45,039 that's what we have so far. Should we start, uh spreading our wings 1319 01:28:45,039 --> 01:28:47,119 a little bit here, maybe do some off the off the winning definitely? 1320 01:28:47,239 --> 01:28:50,039 Yeah, because like I definitely have a couple of favorites. Yeah, what 1321 01:28:50,079 --> 01:28:53,640 are your favorites? Yeah, let me we give one of mine. Uh, 1322 01:28:55,079 --> 01:29:02,720 doctor Wywie. That sounds good. Let's do that. I Man, 1323 01:29:03,119 --> 01:29:05,600 there's a couple that I think would be fun to get up there, but 1324 01:29:06,920 --> 01:29:12,199 I would probably put chau Khan up next. Yeah, I like it. 1325 01:29:13,199 --> 01:29:16,920 I like chau Kan a whole ton of a lot. All right, we 1326 01:29:17,039 --> 01:29:23,880 got we have three spots left, Mike, Uh yeah, real, consolidate 1327 01:29:23,920 --> 01:29:27,520 this real quick. I definitely do want the Chuck in there. Okay, 1328 01:29:27,680 --> 01:29:36,880 that sounds good to me. I I'm like between like King k Rule, 1329 01:29:40,680 --> 01:29:45,319 Doctor robot Nick, and I don't know, maybe those two. Maybe That's 1330 01:29:45,319 --> 01:29:48,520 where I'm at right now, all about liquid though, I'm fine with Liquid 1331 01:29:48,560 --> 01:29:51,680 going up there. If Yeah, I mean, I've just put a bunch 1332 01:29:51,720 --> 01:29:55,680 of Like, which one do you feel strongest about? Well, of these, 1333 01:29:55,760 --> 01:29:58,640 I think I feel strongest about King k Role. I just love his 1334 01:29:58,720 --> 01:30:02,279 design, cool character. Yeah, and like more of a straight villain. 1335 01:30:02,399 --> 01:30:05,840 DDD is often not a villain. Oh you said you put up a bunch, 1336 01:30:06,000 --> 01:30:09,159 I just put up Kan. You put up with Chucks. Oh that 1337 01:30:09,199 --> 01:30:12,039 one time somebody yowted at me for supposedly taking over, and I've been self 1338 01:30:12,039 --> 01:30:15,560 conscious ever since. I'm like, my favorites are up on the list now, 1339 01:30:15,680 --> 01:30:17,479 So I think you should get Liquid Snake up there. Well, let 1340 01:30:17,479 --> 01:30:20,199 me take a look. Let me see who, because who who is a 1341 01:30:20,279 --> 01:30:24,159 part of me that wants to get Eric Sparrow on there at number ten? 1342 01:30:24,479 --> 01:30:28,000 Oh? Actually, can we do that? Yeah? I mean I love 1343 01:30:28,159 --> 01:30:31,239 the Fairius, I love Liquid Snake. Yeah, and Armstrong. Well, 1344 01:30:31,239 --> 01:30:34,640 I mean let's put sparrows. Let's see. Yeah, if we need to 1345 01:30:34,640 --> 01:30:39,359 swap it, Pharaoh should be number okay, yeah, number ten? Right? 1346 01:30:40,039 --> 01:30:43,760 Yeah, okay, all right, cool, okay, Jeff me asking, 1347 01:30:43,800 --> 01:30:45,119 are we just putting gandor up there because we think we should be, 1348 01:30:45,239 --> 01:30:51,319 or do we really like that character a lot? I really like the moments 1349 01:30:51,399 --> 01:30:56,880 from Okery of Time a lot. Beyond that, I don't think about him 1350 01:30:56,960 --> 01:31:00,119 too much. I think that Let me try to think, how did I 1351 01:31:00,119 --> 01:31:04,840 feel about him in Tears of the Kingdom? No, uh, I don't. 1352 01:31:05,279 --> 01:31:10,079 Would you rather have Liquid Sneak than Gannandorf? I mean me personally know? 1353 01:31:10,239 --> 01:31:13,079 But I'm okay with that. Yeah, I'm definitely okay with that because 1354 01:31:13,439 --> 01:31:16,039 yeah, I'm not like carrying a torture Ganandorff Personally, I could go either 1355 01:31:16,079 --> 01:31:18,560 way. Like, I don't feel that strongly about it. I was just 1356 01:31:18,680 --> 01:31:21,079 like I do. Like, let's say, like, which one do you 1357 01:31:21,079 --> 01:31:27,239 feel worse about not being on there? Between those two? It's I I 1358 01:31:27,399 --> 01:31:30,640 just so alve them that's not on there, of all of them that I 1359 01:31:30,680 --> 01:31:34,279 don't know, let me look here because there one you want to try to 1360 01:31:34,319 --> 01:31:36,840 like rub that Robonic being on there's a little sad but whatever. Yeah, 1361 01:31:36,880 --> 01:31:40,680 doctor Robonic is probably the answer for me, and it's not that strong. 1362 01:31:40,760 --> 01:31:43,560 Well, maybe Darth Malick. I like a lot. I feel like Darth 1363 01:31:43,600 --> 01:31:46,239 Malick. Man, that's pretty good. I'm like if we would to move 1364 01:31:46,359 --> 01:31:48,880 King k Rule down because I'm just like, I like the way he looks. 1365 01:31:49,079 --> 01:31:54,439 That's where I'm out with. Maybe Karol's good. Kingkarol's good, but 1366 01:31:54,800 --> 01:31:57,800 I don't know if he needs to dark out there is more interesting. Yeah, 1367 01:31:57,800 --> 01:32:01,479 I agree, that's Darth Malick. Okay, that feels right. Okay, 1368 01:32:01,760 --> 01:32:05,960 So, uh is is there a place where Liquid Snake gets on now, 1369 01:32:06,079 --> 01:32:13,840 Mike, I now I am actually I am good with my with my 1370 01:32:14,319 --> 01:32:15,560 think. It's just yeah, I think he just doesn't make it unfortunately. 1371 01:32:15,800 --> 01:32:20,760 I mean he'd be like eleven for me. Yes, in some ways he 1372 01:32:21,119 --> 01:32:29,720 would be on there above Eric Sparrow. Sorry, that's like I like Eric 1373 01:32:29,800 --> 01:32:31,880 Sparrow. Okay, a lot. Here's what. Here are the ten games 1374 01:32:31,920 --> 01:32:34,800 we have up there are ten villains we have up there now, Bowser, 1375 01:32:35,119 --> 01:32:41,760 Ridley, Dracula, Kafka, Gannendorf, Doctor Wiley, Shaukantt, Chuck, 1376 01:32:42,279 --> 01:32:47,000 Darth Malick, and Eric Sparrow. You want to rearrange anything, Mostly with 1377 01:32:47,079 --> 01:32:50,000 the top four, I'm really good with. Beyond that, I don't know. 1378 01:32:53,000 --> 01:32:56,920 Should I put a Dracula quote, Caslvania or simply a night or what 1379 01:32:57,359 --> 01:33:00,920 I think people understand? Okay, just Castlevane, drag It's fine. Okay, 1380 01:33:00,359 --> 01:33:03,439 that's fine. No, I think we're good. Okay, all right, 1381 01:33:03,560 --> 01:33:06,399 So then yeah, once again the final list, and I'll go from 1382 01:33:06,520 --> 01:33:11,640 ten to one this time Eric Sparrow at number ten, Darth Malick, La 1383 01:33:11,760 --> 01:33:15,159 Chuck, Shao Khan, doctor why we Gan Indoor, Kafka, Dracula, 1384 01:33:15,560 --> 01:33:19,960 Ridley, and number one is Bowser. I think that looks real good. 1385 01:33:20,479 --> 01:33:24,439 It's fine, all right, we did it. We've succeeded here. Well 1386 01:33:24,560 --> 01:33:27,800 done, all right, I'll uh, I'll tweet that out, we'll get 1387 01:33:27,920 --> 01:33:30,880 yelled at, and that will be that. Hey, Mike, what games 1388 01:33:30,920 --> 01:33:33,000 have you been playing? Unless you have to go potty or anything. Let 1389 01:33:33,039 --> 01:33:35,079 me good, let's just do it. Yeah, you want to get you 1390 01:33:35,119 --> 01:33:36,960 said you want to do a short up. So we're getting close to two 1391 01:33:38,000 --> 01:33:42,159 hours, so yeah, yeah, yeah, well we're bad at this one 1392 01:33:42,199 --> 01:33:45,319 second. It's going to be a break right now, and now we're back. 1393 01:33:46,840 --> 01:33:50,079 Thank you? All right? Cool? So yeah, then, Mike, 1394 01:33:50,359 --> 01:33:54,359 what have you been playing? I know you've been trying Spider Man stuff. 1395 01:33:54,520 --> 01:33:57,079 Can't start Spider Man two? Finally just playing an hour. It's exactly 1396 01:33:57,159 --> 01:33:59,760 what I said what happened were for some reason, I like, wasn't getting 1397 01:33:59,760 --> 01:34:03,199 a game even though I loved Spider Man and mas Morales like yeah, once 1398 01:34:03,239 --> 01:34:05,920 I'm playing, I'm like, oh yeah, Spider Man's cool. I like 1399 01:34:06,039 --> 01:34:09,560 this. I'm like, oh, sand Man, I even forget not only 1400 01:34:09,560 --> 01:34:12,520 do I forget that I like how these games are. I forget that I 1401 01:34:12,960 --> 01:34:16,039 like Spider Man. I don't know that happens every time, because you know, 1402 01:34:16,119 --> 01:34:19,560 I love Spider Man, like the original comic runs, you know, 1403 01:34:19,920 --> 01:34:24,279 the first two Raimy movies and all that stuff, and then since then there's 1404 01:34:24,399 --> 01:34:27,520 there's not a whole lot that scratches that specific Spider Man. It's like I 1405 01:34:27,760 --> 01:34:31,800 like the the newer Marvel movies fine, but they're very much their own thing 1406 01:34:31,840 --> 01:34:35,720 in a way. There is something about this take on Spider Man that is 1407 01:34:35,880 --> 01:34:40,279 modern but still has a closer tie to the classics for me that I like 1408 01:34:40,319 --> 01:34:44,439 a lot. Still controls really well. The world is massive, It is 1409 01:34:44,560 --> 01:34:46,760 just a lot of fun to swing around. Yeah. I'm having a great 1410 01:34:46,800 --> 01:34:48,560 time with them. You've beaten it, you have more to say to me. 1411 01:34:48,680 --> 01:34:51,560 The one thing that you know. I don't want to get too caught 1412 01:34:51,640 --> 01:34:55,279 up on it forever, and I'm starting to get over it. But it 1413 01:34:55,359 --> 01:34:59,359 was distracting at first. I still think it's really weird that they just changed 1414 01:34:59,399 --> 01:35:03,840 Peter Parker. It was a wrong move. It was the wrong move. 1415 01:35:04,000 --> 01:35:06,960 I don't know why. I get why they think they needed to do it, 1416 01:35:08,000 --> 01:35:13,479 but it was the wrong move. Yes, yeah, I really love 1417 01:35:13,560 --> 01:35:17,079 that game. I have personally settled on it for like the giant Bomb scale, 1418 01:35:17,079 --> 01:35:19,960 I would give it a five out of five, and a big part 1419 01:35:20,000 --> 01:35:23,600 of that is like I would really love to go back and just keep playing 1420 01:35:23,640 --> 01:35:26,159 it and one hundred percent, And I think I might actually do that if 1421 01:35:26,199 --> 01:35:28,079 I get a little bit of time here, because I don't think it would 1422 01:35:28,079 --> 01:35:32,439 take all that long. I think that you know, it's its strengths are 1423 01:35:33,159 --> 01:35:36,760 in a place to them are. It didn't try it doesn't try to overwhelm 1424 01:35:36,800 --> 01:35:41,439 you with Matt Barf. It has meaningful side stuff to do, and then 1425 01:35:42,079 --> 01:35:45,439 the characterization is mostly pretty good. I don't think the story is quite as 1426 01:35:45,520 --> 01:35:50,199 high as the first one. I think that the game's combat is is very 1427 01:35:50,239 --> 01:35:53,439 good and very fun, and you get in the flow of things, and 1428 01:35:53,479 --> 01:35:55,720 then there's a bit too much of it or it's a bit too savy by 1429 01:35:55,760 --> 01:36:00,399 the end, just just by a little bit a small smidge too much game, 1430 01:36:00,640 --> 01:36:03,279 I know, right, And that's the liance a while. But and 1431 01:36:03,359 --> 01:36:10,319 then the story itself, it does frequently do the stop and talk and it 1432 01:36:10,399 --> 01:36:13,520 takes different forms in this game, so that's I think that's to its benefit, 1433 01:36:13,600 --> 01:36:15,760 where it's like in this one, you actually are you're gonna be Mary 1434 01:36:15,840 --> 01:36:17,800 Jane, but now she's got a fucking cool pistol kind of thing, and 1435 01:36:17,880 --> 01:36:20,680 so they make that a little bit more fun. It's still not great. 1436 01:36:20,680 --> 01:36:24,720 You're still not swinging around because like that was like one of the biggest complaints 1437 01:36:24,760 --> 01:36:27,199 of the first one. Is interesting that instead of just not doing it, 1438 01:36:27,399 --> 01:36:30,039 like no we're gonna make it better. Yes, that's admirable. Maybe the 1439 01:36:30,159 --> 01:36:33,039 path of least Resistance may have been the better one here, right. I 1440 01:36:33,399 --> 01:36:36,479 think they are compelled by the idea of, hey, Mary Jane is a 1441 01:36:36,560 --> 01:36:40,880 part of this story, sure, and she's not. We don't want to 1442 01:36:40,920 --> 01:36:44,439 damsel her, so we're gonna have her give her own agency. I think 1443 01:36:44,439 --> 01:36:47,239 they're compelled by that, and I think that's also admirable. But when I'm 1444 01:36:47,239 --> 01:36:49,600 playing, I'm not having as much fun. And that's just the truth. 1445 01:36:49,720 --> 01:36:55,560 And and it doesn't there's not a ton of that. But that's like one 1446 01:36:55,680 --> 01:36:59,600 of these walk and talk sort of things or something equivalent. Basically, that's 1447 01:36:59,640 --> 01:37:01,920 my way of saying any time I'm not being Spider Man and not being Spider 1448 01:37:01,960 --> 01:37:04,119 Man in the open world, which is where the game is actually at its 1449 01:37:04,199 --> 01:37:09,319 best, and it does it very frequently throughout the story, where you are 1450 01:37:09,399 --> 01:37:12,479 doing something that is not swinging around a Spider Man. That's to the point 1451 01:37:12,479 --> 01:37:14,840 where Dan stopped playing, right. Dan was like, Well, they're gonna 1452 01:37:14,920 --> 01:37:15,600 keep doing this, I'm gonna be done. I'm just gonna play in the 1453 01:37:15,640 --> 01:37:20,079 open world and do that stuff instead. I got through it. I don't 1454 01:37:20,079 --> 01:37:24,880 think it really, it's super detrimental to it. They just do it a 1455 01:37:24,960 --> 01:37:28,479 bit too much by the end. Those are the small nitpicks here. Beyond 1456 01:37:28,560 --> 01:37:31,319 that, I just I'm so into what they're doing with Spider Man. I 1457 01:37:31,560 --> 01:37:35,079 think I'm so excited about what they are setting up for a sequel. I'm 1458 01:37:35,119 --> 01:37:39,359 like, give me that stuff, Let's go right into it. And a 1459 01:37:39,399 --> 01:37:41,920 big part of that is like just the characters they built up in this thing 1460 01:37:42,279 --> 01:37:45,479 and how that's gonna how I know they're gonna be affected by what happened here 1461 01:37:45,760 --> 01:37:46,760 and now how are they going to deal with that in the next game. 1462 01:37:47,239 --> 01:37:50,840 That stuff is so strong that, yeah, I'm very into it, and 1463 01:37:50,920 --> 01:37:54,840 you're like early on to the point where it's just gonna keep getting better for 1464 01:37:54,880 --> 01:37:57,640 the next several hours. I was I remember when I was talking to you 1465 01:37:57,680 --> 01:38:00,640 about this game originally before the Argo, and I was like, uh, 1466 01:38:01,239 --> 01:38:04,439 I'm definitely I definitely didn't love the intro, and then like I'm liking this 1467 01:38:04,560 --> 01:38:06,640 game, and now I'm like, I love this. This is so much 1468 01:38:06,680 --> 01:38:10,159 fun. You have all that to look forward to, so it's gonna should 1469 01:38:10,159 --> 01:38:11,800 be pretty good for it. I think, you know, I did like 1470 01:38:11,880 --> 01:38:14,239 the intro, but you know, I'm you know me, I'm a I'm 1471 01:38:14,319 --> 01:38:16,640 a chartered fan. I'm okay with some heavily scripted events. They're just sort 1472 01:38:16,640 --> 01:38:20,119 of big and loud. I think that stuff can be fun and has its 1473 01:38:20,159 --> 01:38:25,319 place still, and it ate does a good job of being that. Yeah, 1474 01:38:25,359 --> 01:38:27,680 I think, Uh, I think I just got annoying. One was 1475 01:38:27,680 --> 01:38:30,119 like, man, I'm just the Sandman's out there and I'm stuck in this 1476 01:38:30,199 --> 01:38:33,319 building fighting a bunch of little Sandman's and it's just I don't know, and 1477 01:38:33,439 --> 01:38:36,319 it didn't work for me. But again, it wasn't It wasn't bad. 1478 01:38:36,680 --> 01:38:41,319 It just wasn't clicking as much as I wanted it to. Yeah, really 1479 01:38:41,359 --> 01:38:45,199 good game. Do you like craving in it? They'll just give me because 1480 01:38:45,279 --> 01:38:46,199 you know you guys laughed to me a little bit when I was like, 1481 01:38:46,239 --> 01:38:49,439 I'm a big Craven the Hunter fan. Is Craven like cool in this? 1482 01:38:49,680 --> 01:38:53,199 Oh I'm a Craven the Hunter fan? Now? Oh? Oh yeah, 1483 01:38:53,239 --> 01:38:57,840 I think he's and he's he's very good. They use it. You know, 1484 01:38:57,960 --> 01:39:02,960 he looks exactly like fucking is it Elias Elish from w w E Elias 1485 01:39:03,159 --> 01:39:09,239 Elias, Thank you Eli. He looks exactly I'm like, what's a real 1486 01:39:09,439 --> 01:39:11,399 name. I know, I knew what I was saying it. It was 1487 01:39:11,520 --> 01:39:14,239 wrong, like very wrong. But that's just where my brain's at tonight. 1488 01:39:14,960 --> 01:39:21,840 Elias, Ellie, Elias, Why can I say it? I don't think 1489 01:39:21,880 --> 01:39:34,119 I'm dying. That's what's happening. That you were pretty close. He looks 1490 01:39:34,159 --> 01:39:38,760 exactly like him, though. But the character is good, it's it's really 1491 01:39:38,800 --> 01:39:42,760 good. They use him to bring in all these other like B, C 1492 01:39:43,119 --> 01:39:47,760 and D tier Spider Man villains, me too, and it's it's really well 1493 01:39:47,840 --> 01:39:54,479 done. They don't have to like manufacture all these stupid reasons that Spider Man 1494 01:39:54,520 --> 01:39:58,520 has interacting with these characters. Craven can be that reason and then Craven is 1495 01:39:58,600 --> 01:40:02,079 always this threat looming. Uh And yeah, it's it's good stuff and it's 1496 01:40:02,960 --> 01:40:05,560 it helps make sure, it helps elongate the story. They do a good 1497 01:40:05,640 --> 01:40:10,680 job of like giving him strong beats and they don't overstay their welcome with that 1498 01:40:10,720 --> 01:40:14,560 stuff or anything like that. So yeah, I'm super into Craven. Craven's 1499 01:40:14,600 --> 01:40:16,800 really cool, actually cool. Well, we're all gonna get some chance to 1500 01:40:16,840 --> 01:40:20,119 play more of that soon. We got Mario, Like when does Mario wonder 1501 01:40:20,119 --> 01:40:24,479 availabil Like is that a leven usually? And I think it's a little bit 1502 01:40:24,520 --> 01:40:28,039 later than that. Actually, it might be like one AM for us. 1503 01:40:28,479 --> 01:40:31,119 Uh, it's okay, I hope it's not like three AM. I can't 1504 01:40:31,159 --> 01:40:34,279 ever remember, but I guess. I guess we'll see. We'll see when 1505 01:40:34,279 --> 01:40:38,239 it actually unlocks, and if it's not till tomorrow when I play it, 1506 01:40:38,399 --> 01:40:41,600 oh well, but I would like to play some of it tonight if possible. 1507 01:40:41,680 --> 01:40:44,319 Yeah, that's that's that's me. I'm kind of just waiting for for 1508 01:40:44,439 --> 01:40:48,720 Mario Wonder now. Been playing more Sonic Superstars. I mostly don't like that 1509 01:40:48,880 --> 01:40:51,319 game. It's kind of how I feel now, and the bosses are a 1510 01:40:51,359 --> 01:40:55,760 big part of it. There was some of the levels where I think we 1511 01:40:55,840 --> 01:40:58,600 mentioned he that the Press Zone. What is it called press? Uh? 1512 01:40:58,680 --> 01:41:00,520 Well, so this one's called hard Press. I don't know this, Like 1513 01:41:00,640 --> 01:41:05,039 so maybe I had a level called Press Garden, which was a really cool 1514 01:41:05,119 --> 01:41:10,560 level that kind of combined a printing press with the garden and then this like 1515 01:41:10,600 --> 01:41:15,399 a manufacturing plant or something normally like manufacturing plants. Yet, yeah, I 1516 01:41:15,439 --> 01:41:16,680 don't know. I like some of the levels. There's a snow level. 1517 01:41:16,720 --> 01:41:19,920 I got excited about that. Yeah, there's like that one and I forget 1518 01:41:19,920 --> 01:41:23,399 its call. It was like the cyber level and that's kind of fun, 1519 01:41:23,520 --> 01:41:29,239 has some voxels boxes involved. There was I guess it's a spoiler. There's 1520 01:41:29,279 --> 01:41:31,840 one level that was just suddenly a very random retro Sega game, and I 1521 01:41:31,960 --> 01:41:36,600 liked that. Yeah, it was like the way it's like retro is like, 1522 01:41:36,720 --> 01:41:42,439 hey, video games used to be tron like this is oh okay, 1523 01:41:42,479 --> 01:41:45,279 okay, never mind. Then maybe maybe I haven't seen it yet or whatever. 1524 01:41:45,680 --> 01:41:49,000 We'll see out we get off line. Okay, cool, all right, 1525 01:41:49,079 --> 01:41:51,199 I think that's gonna do it. Mike wanted to te people where they 1526 01:41:51,199 --> 01:41:56,199 could find you a few more super chests hit that yes, please, yes, 1527 01:41:58,359 --> 01:42:01,399 from let's see, Yeah, we had a few more. That's right. 1528 01:42:01,560 --> 01:42:03,880 So Rocha says Mike, I made you a new Giant Barn song. 1529 01:42:03,920 --> 01:42:06,800 Please forgive me. It's awful. Okay to check that out. Thank you 1530 01:42:06,880 --> 01:42:11,520 so much to Racha. Very fun. Sgearm Medo says, as Mario's pop, 1531 01:42:11,640 --> 01:42:14,720 I can confirm that the Super Mario Brothers Wonder Game for the Time to 1532 01:42:14,760 --> 01:42:17,119 Switch Family Systems is not a core Mario game. Well, apparently you also 1533 01:42:17,159 --> 01:42:20,880 thought Thatsh's Island was so you just don't know you're talking. Yeah, you're 1534 01:42:20,920 --> 01:42:25,239 losing it and dad, Grandpa, whyt you just get back in bed please? 1535 01:42:25,760 --> 01:42:28,479 Oh, grug says Dan is in ele Noir. Put him on the 1536 01:42:28,520 --> 01:42:30,319 list, Like, who is Dan in Elenoir? I know he's in ele 1537 01:42:30,399 --> 01:42:35,239 Noir? I think, yeah, that's right, random, Yes, yes, 1538 01:42:35,640 --> 01:42:40,000 don't Can you talk to him? No? I think he's just yeah, 1539 01:42:41,239 --> 01:42:44,640 okay, can you kill well? Listen if you if you know what 1540 01:42:44,720 --> 01:42:47,199 you're going. Definitely the way I think he worked, hour, said Peter. 1541 01:42:47,279 --> 01:42:53,359 After the cutscene, Shiamiro says maybe humans are the real villains. Last 1542 01:42:53,399 --> 01:42:57,359 of Us ten, Derek says, I know this isn't a super popular game 1543 01:42:57,399 --> 01:43:00,880 series, but mister Jefferson from the first Life is Strange game is easily one 1544 01:43:00,920 --> 01:43:04,439 the scariest speaking villain's never played. I'm gonna be honest, I think ever 1545 01:43:04,520 --> 01:43:09,359 will. But yeah, I was more curious about the follow up Life of 1546 01:43:09,399 --> 01:43:11,439 Strange games, and then I'm like, well, I'm gonna play those without 1547 01:43:11,439 --> 01:43:14,079 playing the first ones, and I'm not going to do that properly. X 1548 01:43:14,159 --> 01:43:18,159 course is how is no one said in Bison yet we did? But sorry? 1549 01:43:18,279 --> 01:43:21,680 Yeah, Matt Raremunkey says, show Dan has to be on the list. 1550 01:43:21,800 --> 01:43:26,880 I want to play more system Shock and the system Shock two remester is 1551 01:43:27,000 --> 01:43:29,279 coming, and like, I'm kind of excited for that, so yeah, 1552 01:43:29,359 --> 01:43:32,119 me too. The Wolf says, I'm studying to be a writer and I'm 1553 01:43:32,159 --> 01:43:34,960 happy to learn from you all that instead of creating interesting deep villains, I 1554 01:43:35,000 --> 01:43:39,640 should make silly goober's instead. You're welcome. Yeah, that's true. You 1555 01:43:39,760 --> 01:43:43,640 should think, I mean, think about the most memorable ones at least from 1556 01:43:43,960 --> 01:43:46,640 video games, movies to a little bit. Darth Vader's kind of a googer. 1557 01:43:47,079 --> 01:43:49,880 Yeah, like Darth. Yeah, what is like a deep villain? 1558 01:43:50,000 --> 01:43:54,279 People will be like the Joker from The Joker. Yeah, that what you 1559 01:43:54,319 --> 01:43:57,039 want. I think it's very easy if you try to write a deep villain 1560 01:43:57,079 --> 01:44:00,640 that you're going to end up with a Joker from The Joker. Yes, 1561 01:44:00,880 --> 01:44:03,239 yeah, obviously have fun with your characters. Make your either you know, 1562 01:44:03,359 --> 01:44:06,600 do that or just don't write like a villain. So you write an opposing 1563 01:44:06,680 --> 01:44:11,600 character who isn't you know, in that mold and it's fine. All right, 1564 01:44:12,000 --> 01:44:15,840 that's a super check. Take you so much, everybody. Thanks for 1565 01:44:16,239 --> 01:44:18,560 listening. Everybody. We're gonna get out of here and we're gonna hit the 1566 01:44:18,640 --> 01:44:21,560 song right now. And that's let's try one more time. Mike. Where 1567 01:44:21,600 --> 01:44:25,880 can people find you on the internet? Oh? Twitter, whatever it is? 1568 01:44:26,319 --> 01:44:30,640 You know? Tolkoto Twitch, tolkoto be Twitch has been doing. It's 1569 01:44:30,680 --> 01:44:32,279 been fun lately. A lot of you've been watching. So we'll do some 1570 01:44:32,319 --> 01:44:34,720 stuff this week. I've been playing a lot of Resuvol two for the game 1571 01:44:34,800 --> 01:44:41,079 Club. I beat Leon's campaign. I'm into players now. Hey, that's 1572 01:44:41,079 --> 01:44:44,000 a pretty good game too, These Resident Nable games, they sure are good 1573 01:44:44,399 --> 01:44:46,880 turns out. Yep, it looks like that's the way it's always been. 1574 01:44:47,119 --> 01:44:51,039 Uh, anything else, anything else you want to promote or anything like that. 1575 01:44:51,079 --> 01:44:57,079 I guess quarter new half episode for nineties Disney about our favorite original Park 1576 01:44:57,319 --> 01:45:01,279 characters kind of the thing. So that's you be going up tomorrow today. 1577 01:45:01,800 --> 01:45:05,159 Very cool. A lot of you have been checking out nineties Disney from here 1578 01:45:05,199 --> 01:45:08,760 and Giant Bond, by the way, thank you very much for beginning a 1579 01:45:08,800 --> 01:45:11,920 lot of emails and numbers have been doing really well on that one, So 1580 01:45:12,119 --> 01:45:16,000 thank you for checking out nineties Disney. I am I don't know, Jeff 1581 01:45:16,000 --> 01:45:18,800 grub a bunch of places. Thanks for listening to everybody, appreciate it. 1582 01:45:18,800 --> 01:45:21,439 Thanks for joining the discord. If you want to join the Discord, join 1583 01:45:21,439 --> 01:45:25,800 our community, go to discord dot gg, slash game mess or gamemess dot 1584 01:45:25,880 --> 01:45:32,920 net a little bit easier. Uh goes tomorrow. What's that combs for supporters? 1585 01:45:33,199 --> 01:45:38,920 And yes, yes, check that out and and if you're and if 1586 01:45:38,960 --> 01:45:41,119 you're not, you know, not in the Patreon though the first two episodes 1587 01:45:41,159 --> 01:45:44,439 are out now. They it has its own podcast feed. You could subscribe 1588 01:45:44,479 --> 01:45:46,840 there or you can get it here on this YouTube channel if we put up 1589 01:45:46,880 --> 01:45:53,039 the episodes on there as well. Let's see tomorrow on Giant Bomb, I 1590 01:45:53,279 --> 01:45:56,840 am going to be doing UPF with the boys. We're going to be playing 1591 01:45:56,960 --> 01:46:00,279 some uh Spider Man two at least Spider Man two at some point, and 1592 01:46:00,359 --> 01:46:03,560 then a lot of Mario Wonder. That's the plan, so looking forward to 1593 01:46:03,640 --> 01:46:06,399 that. And then for both those games, like that won't be the only 1594 01:46:06,479 --> 01:46:10,640 content for those games on the site. We will have more to do with 1595 01:46:10,760 --> 01:46:15,119 both of them, probably next week exactly, and we might find a way 1596 01:46:15,119 --> 01:46:17,560 to race in Spider Man. So there's there's plenty to happen with that stuff. 1597 01:46:17,640 --> 01:46:24,119 So looking forward to it. Yes, any any like big plans this 1598 01:46:24,199 --> 01:46:28,000 weekend or is it just the gaming we can play the what I want to 1599 01:46:28,039 --> 01:46:30,560 do. Yeah, I think we're supposed to like a haunted house or something, 1600 01:46:30,600 --> 01:46:34,000 but I want to play times. We'll see bye everybody. So next 1601 01:46:34,079 --> 01:47:17,199 time, let's go, my naughty man. We are on the break. 1602 01:47:18,039 --> 01:47:27,520 Shut a penny A big Grounded fan. I remember even I remember Jeff talking 1603 01:47:27,560 --> 01:47:30,319 about this back then. Grounded did do decent numbers. I just found the 1604 01:47:30,439 --> 01:47:34,600 xbox Y Raticle apparently over ten million players. So yeah, but like I 1605 01:47:34,640 --> 01:47:39,720 don't I know, but the game passed like no, Like that's why no 1606 01:47:40,000 --> 01:47:42,479 games like that are big. It's like I don't know your thieves, like 1607 01:47:42,600 --> 01:47:45,960 see a thieves does really want the casuals because like I, my friends have 1608 01:47:46,199 --> 01:47:49,880 like coworkers like each other, different jobs. That's what I'm saying. Though, 1609 01:47:49,880 --> 01:47:53,640 It's it's like I see it these where like people they're getting at a 1610 01:47:53,680 --> 01:48:00,680 game passing like I look, I agree, it's popular, like t million 1611 01:48:00,800 --> 01:48:03,920 players. We can't do this thing where you just keep saying the numbers are 1612 01:48:04,960 --> 01:48:12,319 at its height, had fifteen million active players and subscribers, and that's people 1613 01:48:12,359 --> 01:48:18,640 paid the different It's a comparison I understand. I understand. Yeah, I 1614 01:48:19,079 --> 01:48:24,560 the players for Xbox because it's like if someone tries it in game pass once 1615 01:48:24,600 --> 01:48:26,960 and then never tries it again, that counts as a player, right, 1616 01:48:27,239 --> 01:48:29,720 So and that's why I'm trying to get across. So it is a lot 1617 01:48:29,720 --> 01:48:31,199 of people just checking it out. So yeah, got into a lot of 1618 01:48:31,199 --> 01:48:34,960 people's hands. Yeah, but he is not nearly as impressive as songing like 1619 01:48:35,000 --> 01:48:39,479 that where people are paying or anything. On top of this, Well, 1620 01:48:39,760 --> 01:48:43,039 what was the Microsoft game recently that they were like, hey, if this 1621 01:48:43,119 --> 01:48:47,800 game doesn't get a certain level of players, certain level of monthly active users, 1622 01:48:47,840 --> 01:48:50,039 we're gonna have to like stop and putting money into it. There was 1623 01:48:50,079 --> 01:48:57,840 something recently. I can't remember that publicly, it's get going feeling at him. 1624 01:48:58,000 --> 01:48:59,800 I think it was that was data that came out of the weeks I 1625 01:48:59,840 --> 01:49:02,880 think, okay, yeah, sorry, I think it follow seventy six. 1626 01:49:02,960 --> 01:49:05,239 Thank you, Christopher k Yes, it was followed seventy six. So I 1627 01:49:05,279 --> 01:49:09,279 knew they have this high bar for keeping these games alive. So I don't 1628 01:49:09,279 --> 01:49:13,119 imagine Grinded still going that it must happen. It must be some certain level 1629 01:49:13,319 --> 01:49:16,399 of monthly active users. I would love to play grounded. Actually we may 1630 01:49:16,520 --> 01:49:28,359 maybe we should do that. I guess that game has the same grass as 1631 01:49:28,439 --> 01:49:32,920 Grabbed by the ghoolies. I don't know. It's make such a snob am. 1632 01:49:32,960 --> 01:49:35,920 I right, guys, let's let's bring it back. Let's bring it 1633 01:49:36,000 --> 01:49:44,600 back. All right, let's do this really quick. This this is some 1634 01:49:45,239 --> 01:49:53,720 let me do a break it break it's me. It's a break. It's 1635 01:49:53,760 --> 01:49:57,479 a brocket. It's a teako bracket. And we should get mic the audition 1636 01:49:57,640 --> 01:50:01,239 from Mario. Yeah, yes, on, you didn't reach out. Yeah, 1637 01:50:01,359 --> 01:50:04,439 they can send me recording booth of my jail. So it's fine, 1638 01:50:08,560 --> 01:50:18,000 Mike, Mike, Mike, man, that one drives me insane. O. 1639 01:50:18,279 --> 01:50:25,840 Good, at least put the yellow one on there. That I hate 1640 01:50:25,880 --> 01:50:30,680 that yellow. How do I delete things? Yeah, girl removes that and 1641 01:50:30,720 --> 01:50:36,079 then privileges. Al right, there we go. All I'm gonna bring us 1642 01:50:36,119 --> 01:50:45,159 back in Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay. I just fixed 1643 01:50:45,239 --> 01:50:53,479 this real quick. Mm hmmmm hmmm. He on the this is the least 1644 01:50:53,520 --> 01:51:00,680 flattering picture of Dan. Yeah, it looks like that guy who played Bucky 1645 01:51:01,119 --> 01:51:10,159 or the Winter Soldier is like unemployed younger brother. Oh that took a left 1646 01:51:10,199 --> 01:51:15,359 turn. I was expecting man, Okay, like I said it. Okay, 1647 01:51:15,880 --> 01:51:19,800 Bailey just tweeted that player too like shirt from the Time the World with 1648 01:51:19,960 --> 01:51:30,199 Luigi and caught it a cuck shirt. I'm gonna say, haha, but 1649 01:51:30,319 --> 01:51:43,520 could you get me one good? I'm dead. I can't like no boys 1650 01:51:43,520 --> 01:51:45,960 were supposed to get like the player one and the player too bad. You 1651 01:51:45,079 --> 01:51:54,479 just walk her up only the player Okay, let's let's bring it back. 1652 01:51:54,640 --> 01:51:57,720 Am I good to kill? Actually? Yes, let me actually fix that 1653 01:51:57,800 --> 01:52:01,399 real quick. You're good to go. Okay, I'm ready. There we 1654 01:52:01,520 --> 01:52:06,560 go. Sorry, let's lookt to it. It's okay, Brown, I'm 1655 01:52:06,600 --> 01:52:10,520 going to bring it back after after I fixed this. There we go, 1656 01:52:10,840 --> 01:52:13,600 and then okay, bring it back right now,