WEBVTT 1 00:00:14.759 --> 00:00:35.119 Listen, Thanks listen, Thanks welcome everybody the w w E podcast for that's 2 00:00:35.159 --> 00:00:43.520 another episode of our podcast at wtf W B podcast, at WTFW trash on 3 00:00:43.560 --> 00:00:48.119 the Twitter, the Instagram, the TikTok, it's your boy Kanye Twitter, 4 00:00:48.159 --> 00:00:52.280 and like always, I got my partner right here, your boy to mean 5 00:00:52.359 --> 00:00:56.560 lying, your boy, no me lying. And today you know, last 6 00:00:56.560 --> 00:01:00.200 week, you know you guys got to got to hear and see the amazing 7 00:01:00.320 --> 00:01:06.640 episode with Drexel the Homicidal Artist. Uh. And you know in that episode 8 00:01:06.840 --> 00:01:11.920 we talked about referee brad Alie. You know, he's it's I don't even 9 00:01:11.920 --> 00:01:14.840 know really fully how to how to explain everything he does, so I'm gonna 10 00:01:14.920 --> 00:01:18.920 let him do it himself. But first things first, check out and follow 11 00:01:19.000 --> 00:01:23.640 everything on the discord and everything at me WW podcast. Make sure you give 12 00:01:23.680 --> 00:01:26.560 all of the WTFW episodes a little like you know what I mean, for 13 00:01:26.599 --> 00:01:30.159 your boy Kanye and to me Lyon. But uh, we're gonna get right 14 00:01:30.200 --> 00:01:34.760 into this. For the first time ever in my experience, we get to 15 00:01:34.879 --> 00:01:40.840 hear from the referee. The referee. Go ahead and introduce yourself, Brad. 16 00:01:41.760 --> 00:01:47.400 I am referee Bradley from Portland, Oregon. Um first graduate student of 17 00:01:47.519 --> 00:01:52.280 Oregon Pro Wrestling School. Um. We have one other ref now graduated from 18 00:01:52.280 --> 00:02:00.680 there, fidel Um. But yeah, well now what all? And you 19 00:02:00.719 --> 00:02:04.519 know, like I know where you where you where you do your refer duties 20 00:02:04.560 --> 00:02:07.680 at. I've seen you at Prestige. I've seen you with a couple of 21 00:02:07.800 --> 00:02:10.680 promotions. I mean, you know, basically, let let's give give the 22 00:02:10.680 --> 00:02:14.800 people kind of a background. You know how you got to where you're at 23 00:02:14.879 --> 00:02:19.120 now, you know, because that sounds like you're crazy, crazy story all 24 00:02:19.199 --> 00:02:23.680 right, So I guess how far back to you? We can go back 25 00:02:23.680 --> 00:02:28.240 to the child and growing up. UM My dad super big wrestling fan. 26 00:02:28.879 --> 00:02:34.759 UM. He used to go to if anybody's familiar with the Saint Louis scene 27 00:02:34.840 --> 00:02:38.520 from the indies or when we had the Territories Goal and wrestling at the Chase. 28 00:02:39.400 --> 00:02:44.759 So my dad grew up going to wrestling at the Chase shows. UM 29 00:02:44.919 --> 00:02:50.199 grew up watching Rick Flayer and UM. So when I was a kid, 30 00:02:50.879 --> 00:02:54.879 we went to the first like every WCW Nitro show, UM, and uh, 31 00:02:57.439 --> 00:03:04.039 hundreds and hundreds of indie shows. We went to all the ECW stuff. 32 00:03:04.039 --> 00:03:07.960 He took me to see Undertaker versus Sean Michaels held to cell. I 33 00:03:07.080 --> 00:03:12.960 was seven rows away from the bank, crying my brains out because I seen 34 00:03:13.039 --> 00:03:21.439 Sean Michaels covered in blood and I was afraid that Undertaker killed him. Been 35 00:03:21.479 --> 00:03:25.520 a wrestling fan my entire life. After the attitude era kind of happened, 36 00:03:27.879 --> 00:03:34.759 ruthless aggression kind of came, and the edge of WWE changed. I kind 37 00:03:34.759 --> 00:03:38.400 of fell out of it after WCW and all of that, But then I 38 00:03:38.400 --> 00:03:46.520 started going to indie shows again. Moved out here to Oregon, went to 39 00:03:46.800 --> 00:03:51.520 Dawa Pro Wrestling as a fan and was like, man, this is the 40 00:03:51.599 --> 00:03:54.280 ship and I love this. I need to do something. What can I 41 00:03:54.319 --> 00:03:58.639 do? So I started searching for schools because the only way you can get 42 00:03:58.680 --> 00:04:01.199 in the rings you have to go through a cool So I start searching. 43 00:04:01.240 --> 00:04:04.599 I search, I reach out, I reach out to a promote place. 44 00:04:05.000 --> 00:04:11.520 I never hear anything. Two years happens. Nothing. All of a sudden, 45 00:04:11.520 --> 00:04:15.319 the pandemic happens. Everything's shutting down. We don't have anything going on. 46 00:04:15.959 --> 00:04:20.199 I get a random email. Finally, two and a half years later, 47 00:04:21.279 --> 00:04:26.199 oh hey, so DUBC. DUBC is no longer going to be operating. 48 00:04:27.040 --> 00:04:31.000 But Ricky Gibson is opening the school. You're in Oregon, UM, 49 00:04:31.000 --> 00:04:34.079 you should reach out. So I reached out. Started right then. I 50 00:04:34.160 --> 00:04:39.680 was probably I was trying to say two weeks into the school even being opened. 51 00:04:39.720 --> 00:04:44.720 As of school. I started training three days a week, six seven 52 00:04:44.720 --> 00:04:51.439 hours a day for a good solid year before I debuted, and then I 53 00:04:51.560 --> 00:04:56.360 worked. I started off. I did the very first so OS Pro Wrestling 54 00:04:56.399 --> 00:05:00.839 show when they first became a promotion. I was two months into training. 55 00:05:01.600 --> 00:05:05.720 UM. They sent me up there because they needed they needed somebody. UM. 56 00:05:05.720 --> 00:05:10.279 I went up there, scared to death because it was literally two months 57 00:05:10.279 --> 00:05:14.279 into training. UM went up there busting my ass, did a really good 58 00:05:14.360 --> 00:05:18.160 job. They were happy. I didn't come back for a long period of 59 00:05:18.160 --> 00:05:23.439 time because I was busy going otherwhere. UM. But then now, like 60 00:05:23.480 --> 00:05:27.560 you said, you've seen me on Prestige, UM I read for to five 61 00:05:28.800 --> 00:05:35.240 UM TPW, Timber Pro Wrestling, DA POW Pro Wrestling, SOS Pro Wrestling, 62 00:05:35.959 --> 00:05:42.560 UM I did. I did a little stint with BCWUM reactivate. I 63 00:05:42.600 --> 00:05:46.199 am now the head ref over at Relentless Pro Wrestling. UM. So I 64 00:05:46.240 --> 00:05:49.720 do all their stuff, which you've seen me down in LA for Mania with 65 00:05:49.839 --> 00:05:57.720 them Um, I do all the deathmatch stuff in the area Drexel. As 66 00:05:57.759 --> 00:06:01.319 you talked to Drexel, he has owned me the ways of doing things. 67 00:06:01.319 --> 00:06:05.959 So now I build all of the weapons. UM. I think my biggest 68 00:06:06.000 --> 00:06:12.480 feat was building that trampoline of doom that we used at Prestige. That took 69 00:06:13.600 --> 00:06:20.199 hours to build. That's that's nuts that we were that we were both there, 70 00:06:20.480 --> 00:06:25.199 we were both in the building for that. Yeah, it was absolutely 71 00:06:25.199 --> 00:06:29.720 amazing. Yeah, that was fun. I was glad that it survived and 72 00:06:30.000 --> 00:06:33.839 nobody got heard through it. Um. And then the no ropes death match 73 00:06:33.920 --> 00:06:40.639 that we did with Akira and Drexel, with the no ropes, no pad 74 00:06:40.800 --> 00:06:46.279 barbed wire death match that we just did there at Prestige. That was insane. 75 00:06:46.519 --> 00:06:49.439 Um. That took a lot of time and I cut the hell out 76 00:06:49.439 --> 00:06:56.040 of myself in that match putting all that barbed wire together to build those all 77 00:06:56.040 --> 00:07:00.000 the ropes a lot of work, a lot of time. UM. Yeah. 78 00:07:00.160 --> 00:07:02.279 UM. I built that knife board that Akira brought out to the thing 79 00:07:02.319 --> 00:07:08.800 because that's what he wanted. So I like all that crazy craziness. So 80 00:07:08.920 --> 00:07:13.439 Drexel has been my UM. He's been a huge help teaching me the ways 81 00:07:13.439 --> 00:07:17.639 and how to do things properly so that we can put on these crazy shows 82 00:07:17.720 --> 00:07:21.759 for all of us sick individuals like us that like watching it. Yeah, 83 00:07:21.800 --> 00:07:27.399 well, it just goes to show you like how the fans don't know the 84 00:07:27.480 --> 00:07:31.480 extent of how far it goes behind the scenes and what what everyone actually does 85 00:07:31.519 --> 00:07:34.879 to get it put together and make it happen. And you know, what 86 00:07:34.920 --> 00:07:39.959 you're doing is you know, some of the best stuff that that's out there. 87 00:07:40.000 --> 00:07:43.120 You know, when you can when you can make a weapon to put 88 00:07:43.120 --> 00:07:47.319 in the ring to not only make these guys look good but also be safe 89 00:07:47.360 --> 00:07:50.199 at the same time. That's that's awesome, man, It's a whole art. 90 00:07:50.279 --> 00:07:54.399 It's an art. Yeah, yeah, definitely, And I was I'm 91 00:07:54.439 --> 00:07:58.160 honored that Drexel gave me that platform and taught me those, you know, 92 00:07:58.199 --> 00:08:01.800 the tricks of the trade and things to do to make to make a show 93 00:08:01.879 --> 00:08:03.399 go because you know, we like the shows and we want the shows to 94 00:08:03.439 --> 00:08:07.199 go smoothly, so we have to do what we have to do. And 95 00:08:07.279 --> 00:08:09.319 you have to learn. So you have to be willing to learn and have 96 00:08:09.360 --> 00:08:16.439 to be willing to put your body on the line. Yeah, what what 97 00:08:16.439 --> 00:08:18.240 what is it like? There's one one question. I gotta ask right off 98 00:08:18.240 --> 00:08:24.120 of that because I wonder it all the time when when you're dealing with tax 99 00:08:24.199 --> 00:08:30.680 in the ring and you have to hit that one, two, three? 100 00:08:31.000 --> 00:08:33.720 Are they are they going in your head? You catch some taxs. You're 101 00:08:33.720 --> 00:08:39.519 trying to give him a swish before you start counting. Oh no, my 102 00:08:39.639 --> 00:08:46.039 fingers are still um, just from many a week when I from working Crimson 103 00:08:46.159 --> 00:08:52.399 and Circle six, I put my hands straight down, and when I lifted 104 00:08:52.399 --> 00:08:54.159 it up for the one, this whole hand was just covered like the tax 105 00:08:54.200 --> 00:08:58.440 were stuck in it. Um. For four days, I couldn't squeeze my 106 00:08:58.519 --> 00:09:03.639 fingers closed my hand. My hand was swollen from all the puncture holes into 107 00:09:03.639 --> 00:09:07.720 it. Um. I go ahead and lay some tacks on the ground and 108 00:09:07.840 --> 00:09:11.519 smack your hand on. Do it? No, uh, you know, 109 00:09:13.039 --> 00:09:15.279 maybe being to me, you will have to do a YouTube, you know, 110 00:09:15.360 --> 00:09:18.399 an Instagram video or TikTok video. Maybe we just got to challenge each 111 00:09:18.399 --> 00:09:22.679 other to do that, because I'm just saying that if he can do it, 112 00:09:22.720 --> 00:09:24.559 like I think I can do it, you know what I'm saying, 113 00:09:26.240 --> 00:09:31.039 it hurts, especially because like there's so many nerve endings into your hands. 114 00:09:31.840 --> 00:09:37.120 Oh man, I put my body. I will throw my hands into the 115 00:09:37.159 --> 00:09:43.279 fire. You know at Circle Sikes we did a flaming tables match and I 116 00:09:43.399 --> 00:09:48.720 was right there like, um, so yeah, I'm not yea, I'll 117 00:09:48.720 --> 00:09:50.399 put my hands right into make system. I'm not. I don't want to 118 00:09:50.399 --> 00:09:54.320 like move things. I don't want to have to like you know, it's 119 00:09:54.320 --> 00:09:56.600 a pin I'm there. I gotta be there. I want to be on 120 00:09:56.679 --> 00:09:58.159 time. I want to make sure I'm in the right place. And if 121 00:09:58.200 --> 00:10:01.399 I gotta move crap out of my way to get to so that I'm there, 122 00:10:01.440 --> 00:10:07.159 I'm not in the right place at the right time, then so respect, 123 00:10:07.360 --> 00:10:11.879 Yeah, that's respect. It hurt. What's the uh? What? 124 00:10:11.240 --> 00:10:16.360 Okay? Now you know now you uh you know you're doing these that that's 125 00:10:16.399 --> 00:10:20.240 matches and what what what's give me? Give me one one that that you 126 00:10:20.279 --> 00:10:22.159 know? I mean, I know they're all probably amazing. There's a lot 127 00:10:22.159 --> 00:10:26.360 of amazing professional wrestlers you get to work with, but you know at the 128 00:10:26.399 --> 00:10:31.080 top of your list, you know right now, like what's one match that 129 00:10:31.200 --> 00:10:35.559 you're just like WTFW Like what the F was I doing? I can't believe 130 00:10:35.639 --> 00:10:39.840 that, you know, Like, which one does it for you? I 131 00:10:39.879 --> 00:10:48.639 mean, who was it? Um he Honestly, I'm gonna say um, 132 00:10:48.639 --> 00:10:52.039 because I've done so many. Um, the one that I feel like was 133 00:10:52.279 --> 00:10:56.720 my the moment that broke for me. Um, I'm gonna give that one 134 00:10:56.759 --> 00:11:03.879 to kid Bandit and Drexel. That was That's my That's my number one, 135 00:11:05.120 --> 00:11:09.759 like highlight because I mean that went viral and kid Bandit. I love her 136 00:11:09.799 --> 00:11:13.080 to Dad. She she put me over as the rest in that match, 137 00:11:13.759 --> 00:11:15.919 um, which they didn't have. She didn't have to do. Drexel does 138 00:11:16.240 --> 00:11:18.639 too. They don't have to do that. I'm not It's not about me, 139 00:11:18.679 --> 00:11:22.519 it's about them. Um. But Dad, that one's probably my number 140 00:11:22.519 --> 00:11:28.720 one. And then Drexel danger Aaron with the surprise appearance of Akira, Um 141 00:11:28.039 --> 00:11:33.519 probably be up there. That's crazy, you know, Like you know, 142 00:11:33.639 --> 00:11:37.480 I do have kid Bandit, you know, me and her talk too, 143 00:11:37.919 --> 00:11:41.639 because that's that's actually how I got introduced to kid Bandit, you know what 144 00:11:41.679 --> 00:11:46.720 I'm saying. And you know, was that match and and since then, 145 00:11:46.759 --> 00:11:50.039 you know, I've gotten to see three more matches, uh and and and 146 00:11:50.159 --> 00:11:54.000 you know what, it seems to be a common consensus that everybody I talked 147 00:11:54.039 --> 00:12:00.919 to in the in the business over here that that is at the top of 148 00:12:00.919 --> 00:12:07.519 a lot of people's lips. Um. Pro Wrestling does not deserve kids, 149 00:12:07.559 --> 00:12:13.000 snow kind. It's it's crazy, and I can't wait. I really can't 150 00:12:13.039 --> 00:12:16.360 wait to you know, I'm gonna have kid bad to hear on the show 151 00:12:16.440 --> 00:12:20.320 here in about a month. Uh. But you know, it's just really 152 00:12:20.360 --> 00:12:24.759 awesome to everybody I talk to, everybody, I talk to you because I 153 00:12:24.799 --> 00:12:26.840 mean, I'll admit I'll admit it. You know when when you first see 154 00:12:26.919 --> 00:12:30.279 me, you know, at the first couple of Prestige shows and whatnot, 155 00:12:30.440 --> 00:12:33.200 you know, you know, hollering at you the party, like hey, 156 00:12:33.200 --> 00:12:35.519 hey, Rep, can I have a picture with you? You know, 157 00:12:35.639 --> 00:12:39.720 I was a Mark. I was a Mark, but but now you know, 158 00:12:39.960 --> 00:12:43.080 I said this on the on last week's episode with Drexel, like, 159 00:12:43.799 --> 00:12:48.120 especially with Prestige Um, I don't feel like a Mark. I don't feel 160 00:12:48.120 --> 00:12:50.240 like a fan boy. I don't feel like you know, no, I 161 00:12:50.279 --> 00:12:54.639 feel like part of the family, you know, because like you know, 162 00:12:54.679 --> 00:12:58.000 when it comes to all you guys, from you to Devin and then all 163 00:12:58.000 --> 00:13:01.360 the wrestlers, you know, and it's just us. Been such an amazing 164 00:13:01.440 --> 00:13:05.639 journey for me personally to meet and actually get to know all of y'all, 165 00:13:05.840 --> 00:13:07.960 and you know, see, you know, you know what really how this 166 00:13:09.039 --> 00:13:11.919 really comes down because I mean independent wrestling, it's one of those things you 167 00:13:11.919 --> 00:13:15.320 know, people think that, oh, I see that I can do that. 168 00:13:15.960 --> 00:13:18.879 Now you can't. You want to take one of those chops. No, 169 00:13:20.080 --> 00:13:22.360 I don't think you knew, you know, And and that's why it's 170 00:13:22.360 --> 00:13:26.440 so neat, you know, to see the camaraderie because everywhere we go. 171 00:13:28.320 --> 00:13:31.360 We had an episode when I first went to that first show and you know, 172 00:13:31.440 --> 00:13:33.600 met you and saw kid Bandit and all that. Uh, we did 173 00:13:33.600 --> 00:13:39.320 a whole episode episode called kid Bandit Fire, like a whole episode just to 174 00:13:39.399 --> 00:13:43.960 tell people, you know, who who this person was and how amazing they 175 00:13:43.960 --> 00:13:48.039 are. And then you know that she's popped up in a couple other episodes. 176 00:13:48.519 --> 00:13:50.840 So you know, it's really nice to see, you know, like 177 00:13:50.919 --> 00:13:58.159 the support that the that the community, the wrestling community has for each other, 178 00:13:58.240 --> 00:14:01.120 because I mean, you don't get that profession, you know what I 179 00:14:01.120 --> 00:14:05.559 mean, Yeah, totally, Yeah, it's a it is a Wrestling is 180 00:14:05.600 --> 00:14:13.799 a huge worldwide phenomena, but it is actually just really small little community one. 181 00:14:15.000 --> 00:14:18.279 You know, we can't I got news coming to my phone non stop. 182 00:14:18.320 --> 00:14:20.039 I mean since we've been on this, just this podcast, so far, 183 00:14:20.559 --> 00:14:24.840 my phone, my Twitter feed has went off like forty times like news. 184 00:14:24.279 --> 00:14:28.440 I can't keep I have to keep a battery backup because there's so much 185 00:14:28.480 --> 00:14:31.360 going on with social media, just with wrestling. It's like I had I 186 00:14:31.399 --> 00:14:35.080 got rid of like my personal stuff just because wrestling takes up at all. 187 00:14:37.799 --> 00:14:39.799 I have to notice, uh you know, uh, you know, and 188 00:14:39.879 --> 00:14:43.720 in northern life, I was a hip hop artist. You know, I 189 00:14:43.759 --> 00:14:46.679 did at a little thing here and there, did a few tours. You 190 00:14:46.720 --> 00:14:50.639 know, I played with with some people called Te Pays and Techno and things 191 00:14:50.679 --> 00:14:52.559 like that. But you know, I mean that's that was then. You 192 00:14:52.600 --> 00:14:58.120 know. Now I have to admit when it comes to my social media feed, 193 00:14:58.679 --> 00:15:05.000 in the last seven eight months, it has been transformed and taken over 194 00:15:05.759 --> 00:15:11.120 by wrestling from from from all you all the different promotions, all the different 195 00:15:11.559 --> 00:15:16.080 professional wrestlers. And it's not you know, w WAW, the big one. 196 00:15:16.159 --> 00:15:20.879 It is the independent seat. So you know, I have to agree 197 00:15:20.879 --> 00:15:24.279 with you there, But I actually I enjoy it, you know, I 198 00:15:24.320 --> 00:15:26.360 really do. It's way better than than it was with the music and the 199 00:15:26.440 --> 00:15:31.720 rappers. And all that, like like this is better than this is this 200 00:15:31.759 --> 00:15:35.399 is this is a lot healthier for the brain. I own a recording studio. 201 00:15:35.639 --> 00:15:39.480 I mean, I'm sitting in the vocal booth that we're transforming to make 202 00:15:39.519 --> 00:15:45.240 the better vocal booth. Um. I record everything from hip hop to brack 203 00:15:45.440 --> 00:15:48.960 music, you know, country music, bluegrass. I'm working with an R 204 00:15:50.039 --> 00:15:52.960 and B artist right now that she's just fucking killing it. This whole album 205 00:15:54.639 --> 00:15:58.519 gonna be amazing. Um. I got my own personal projects going. I 206 00:15:58.600 --> 00:16:03.600 make trench music for you know, all the different wrestlers. I'm working on 207 00:16:03.679 --> 00:16:07.879 like twelve of them right now that will become you will hear in the PNW. 208 00:16:10.519 --> 00:16:12.360 That's kind of where I focus. Most of my MJ has been focused 209 00:16:12.360 --> 00:16:17.120 to. Like Okay, I'm home. You know, I run a pizza 210 00:16:17.120 --> 00:16:19.759 shop Monday through Thursday. And when I'm not at the pizza shop, I'm 211 00:16:19.759 --> 00:16:22.440 in the studio in the lab making music, trying to you know, put 212 00:16:22.480 --> 00:16:29.360 together wrestling songs. Um. I'm working with the Midget Wrestling Warriors. A 213 00:16:29.399 --> 00:16:32.519 lot of people think the name and it gets all kinds of crazy, but 214 00:16:32.559 --> 00:16:36.879 that's the name they I love that whole company. It's amazing I'll be in 215 00:16:36.960 --> 00:16:40.679 Indiana at the end of the month with them. But I have my own 216 00:16:40.759 --> 00:16:45.080 entrance song, I have my own video package. I come out and I'm 217 00:16:45.120 --> 00:16:49.559 I'm a baby face. That's my whole thing. I'm like shaking babies. 218 00:16:49.679 --> 00:16:56.320 Let's go. It's fun, you know. I don't know, maybe like 219 00:16:56.399 --> 00:17:00.000 any w version Cody Roads baby face, because I've been in a few plays. 220 00:17:00.000 --> 00:17:03.000 This is where you may think you in the baby face, you ain't 221 00:17:03.039 --> 00:17:11.079 the baby face places that I'm hated. I'm hated. There's that's the beauty 222 00:17:11.119 --> 00:17:15.880 of it though, what that's the beauty of it? Though? Yeah, 223 00:17:17.000 --> 00:17:23.519 yes, absolutely, there's a video of me coming out like everybody going crazy. 224 00:17:23.559 --> 00:17:26.599 But then like if you don't get they don't like it. Man, 225 00:17:27.319 --> 00:17:32.000 I tagged him some of these freaking baby bad guys they like try to play 226 00:17:32.039 --> 00:17:34.640 games and twist your mind around and get you all distracted, and then you 227 00:17:34.680 --> 00:17:37.640 know it's it's rough. You gotta you gotta keep your eyes on a swivel 228 00:17:37.680 --> 00:17:44.359 with all these people. That's that's facts, facts upon facts. Well, 229 00:17:44.400 --> 00:17:47.920 Hey, you know what, I'm safe. Yeah, we have a rule 230 00:17:48.000 --> 00:17:52.519 here on the podcast, like no one's safe and the rest definitely isn't safe, 231 00:17:52.599 --> 00:17:57.039 like that's for sure? Were you were you at Poal? I was 232 00:17:57.279 --> 00:18:07.240 not at Poal. No man, look forward, um go on so mad 233 00:18:07.720 --> 00:18:11.920 and you will find a match that we happened last night with Murphy Madison, 234 00:18:12.920 --> 00:18:22.680 Hera and Kikio and a triple thret that was amazing. It was fun. 235 00:18:22.799 --> 00:18:27.359 I I that's so much fun. I'm gonna I'm gonna find that. I'm 236 00:18:27.359 --> 00:18:30.599 gonna post that on our social media because I gotta say, right here, 237 00:18:30.680 --> 00:18:33.960 right now, I'm gonna let my class and the melon would say, I'm 238 00:18:33.960 --> 00:18:38.839 gonna let my fan boys show. But uh, Murphy Madison, Amira, 239 00:18:40.240 --> 00:18:45.359 Akikio, hats off, hats off, Like I want to see that match. 240 00:18:45.559 --> 00:18:51.000 I want to you know video A fan recorded it from the stage, 241 00:18:51.400 --> 00:18:55.799 so against and so you can see their video. The how video will come 242 00:18:55.799 --> 00:18:59.200 out as soon as they get done with their editing and all, okay the 243 00:18:59.319 --> 00:19:03.039 fanciness that they do. But you can see the fan videos on Twitter. 244 00:19:03.160 --> 00:19:06.200 It has been shared around. I think I may being shared it. If 245 00:19:06.240 --> 00:19:10.559 not, definitely go find that. But uh a for sure, you know, 246 00:19:10.599 --> 00:19:14.200 like we keep saying, you have so many hats uh you got your 247 00:19:14.200 --> 00:19:19.799 own promotion. I do with Kikio as part owners of it with me Um, 248 00:19:21.400 --> 00:19:23.599 and then we've got three other owners that UM are in the and then 249 00:19:23.640 --> 00:19:30.960 they're with us, Cody and Josh, and we got Steve mission near zero 250 00:19:30.480 --> 00:19:37.960 that little songble bitch h Well, okay, so you got your own promotion. 251 00:19:38.400 --> 00:19:41.839 You do music, you're recording, you're the ref, whether you're a 252 00:19:41.839 --> 00:19:45.119 herol or the baby face. Uh, you know what, you know the 253 00:19:45.240 --> 00:19:49.200 fine Besides all of that, what do you what? What do you got 254 00:19:49.559 --> 00:19:52.480 just yours? What's what's something? What's anything else that you do that people? 255 00:19:52.880 --> 00:19:56.720 Let's say it because a lot of people know who referee Bradley is the 256 00:19:56.799 --> 00:20:00.359 skinny ref however you want to say, but what give me people something that 257 00:20:00.359 --> 00:20:08.319 they probably don't know about your ass um. I am an adamant adamant disc 258 00:20:08.319 --> 00:20:15.079 golfer. Oh awesome, I love this golf to me, Lyon just gotta 259 00:20:15.400 --> 00:20:21.640 gotta gotta softie right there because he hit this golfing food I got my I'm 260 00:20:21.680 --> 00:20:23.880 looking right sitting right here. I have my whole cart with all my my 261 00:20:23.920 --> 00:20:26.960 forty eight disc in it. Like man, if it wasn't raining, I 262 00:20:27.039 --> 00:20:33.880 probably would have went out and played today. That I feel it though, 263 00:20:33.880 --> 00:20:37.400 I feel though I don't like. I like getting the clubs and going real 264 00:20:37.440 --> 00:20:44.480 golf. I'm not real scripted golfing. I don't feel scripted golfings. I'll 265 00:20:44.559 --> 00:20:48.359 tell you what. Taking one of these and throwing a three hundred plus feet 266 00:20:48.960 --> 00:20:55.400 and through the trees is a feet in its own I'm I'm not, I'm 267 00:20:55.400 --> 00:20:56.839 not. I don't want to start a feud here because I don't want to 268 00:20:56.839 --> 00:21:00.599 get in the ring with you right now, all right, have a training 269 00:21:00.680 --> 00:21:03.480 properly, So I'm just gonna back off of that one. But uh, 270 00:21:03.720 --> 00:21:07.440 you know, let's the one serious question I wanted to ask, and then 271 00:21:07.440 --> 00:21:11.720 we're gonna get to some fun you know, mean to me. Lyone has 272 00:21:11.720 --> 00:21:15.880 a list because everything on this podcast we put it in one of three categories. 273 00:21:17.240 --> 00:21:22.359 Everything it's either fire, it's trash, or it's a lunchable break Like 274 00:21:22.400 --> 00:21:26.920 I'm so unemotionally like like Omas on my TV, I'm so emotionally uninvested that 275 00:21:26.960 --> 00:21:30.160 I'd rather go to the fridge enjoin me a lunchable, make some sandwich, 276 00:21:30.240 --> 00:21:33.319 cheese, got the Capri sun, you know, the Reese's peanut butter cup, 277 00:21:33.319 --> 00:21:37.799 and I'm happy. But so we'll get to that. But you know, 278 00:21:37.839 --> 00:21:41.079 I wanted to do touch on one serious question because this is an opinion 279 00:21:41.079 --> 00:21:45.000 that me and mean to me and have talked about a lot and at length, 280 00:21:45.119 --> 00:21:51.039 and it's it's some of the casual fans wouldn't know or notice or understand 281 00:21:51.519 --> 00:21:53.559 and so correct me if I'm wrong. It's more of a statement, and 282 00:21:53.920 --> 00:21:57.720 you can tell me if I'm right and explain or not. In my mind, 283 00:21:59.759 --> 00:22:06.240 the most important person in the professional wrestling when it comes to the show 284 00:22:06.759 --> 00:22:10.160 in the moment I'm talking to, the show's happen, and the fans are 285 00:22:10.160 --> 00:22:15.319 there, the match is happening. In my mind, the most important person 286 00:22:15.359 --> 00:22:19.880 is the ref. Am I wrong in thinking that because I feel like the 287 00:22:19.960 --> 00:22:26.079 ref is is like they're they're directing, they're coordinating. I mean that you're 288 00:22:26.119 --> 00:22:30.119 given two amazing individuals, a four or fifteen or whatever. You get these 289 00:22:30.200 --> 00:22:36.599 amazing individuals professional wrestlers. But I've been trying to argue with a lot of 290 00:22:36.599 --> 00:22:41.160 people that that the underappreciated you know, in person and all of wrestling is 291 00:22:41.200 --> 00:22:47.960 the ref. I will agree that the most underappreciated person and most of the 292 00:22:48.039 --> 00:22:52.559 time is the ref. The ref is ninety and it's changed in the PMW, 293 00:22:52.799 --> 00:22:56.119 especially since I've been in, since I've been around. UM, but 294 00:22:57.240 --> 00:23:03.319 the rest is the been the most like underappreciated, the last last option of 295 00:23:03.400 --> 00:23:07.200 person that they're gonna think about. UM. But that has changed. UM. 296 00:23:07.279 --> 00:23:11.319 But you can't have a wrestling match without the referee in there. You 297 00:23:11.359 --> 00:23:15.359 can't have an n and a fight without the referee in there. You can't 298 00:23:15.400 --> 00:23:23.079 have a boxing match without the referee in there. Fire, absolutely fire, 299 00:23:23.400 --> 00:23:27.720 you know. Hey, you know that's that's so much love right there, 300 00:23:27.759 --> 00:23:32.240 you know, because I mean, you do a good job. I'll tell 301 00:23:32.279 --> 00:23:36.599 you that you do a good job. Devin could do better. No, 302 00:23:36.599 --> 00:23:38.480 no, no, I'm starting a feud. I've been. I don't know 303 00:23:38.519 --> 00:23:41.400 why, but like every time I go to the show now, you know, 304 00:23:41.480 --> 00:23:45.000 like I gotta throw him some trash, you know, I just gotta 305 00:23:45.000 --> 00:23:45.880 throw him, you know. But one of these days I feel like he's 306 00:23:45.920 --> 00:23:49.920 gonna come out there and body slam me or something. But I love Devin, 307 00:23:51.039 --> 00:23:53.759 I love I love the crap out of him. But wrestling teams and 308 00:23:53.880 --> 00:23:57.759 get a damnit Devin hurt? Yeah? Yeah, hey, And and that's 309 00:23:57.799 --> 00:24:00.839 the next spot, you know, before we get to you know the question, 310 00:24:00.920 --> 00:24:03.279 you know, the fire and trash list and you know, wrap this 311 00:24:03.480 --> 00:24:07.960 up, you know, uh, go ahead and let these people know where 312 00:24:07.000 --> 00:24:11.519 your social media is, where, where where you sell some stuff. If 313 00:24:11.559 --> 00:24:15.119 you want to plug a show, because you know, whatever you want to 314 00:24:15.119 --> 00:24:18.279 do, the floor is yours to self promote. All right, Well, 315 00:24:18.400 --> 00:24:23.240 the next show you can catch me at is Relentless UM on the twenty second, 316 00:24:25.599 --> 00:24:27.720 and then in the month we'll be I'll be in Indiana with the Midget 317 00:24:27.759 --> 00:24:33.839 Wrestling Warriors. Um. All of my merch is found on Pro Wrestling teas, 318 00:24:34.519 --> 00:24:41.160 Brainbuster, what a Maneuver Storefrontier, you just search. Referee Bradley pulls 319 00:24:41.200 --> 00:24:45.880 it all up. Um, NW people go to the Brainbuster, support the 320 00:24:45.880 --> 00:24:51.799 PNW post of my people's I love them. Um. May thirteen, my 321 00:24:51.920 --> 00:24:56.240 show Temperate Pro Wrestling. We'll be having our show and the VFW UM there 322 00:24:56.279 --> 00:25:03.240 in Everett former home of where Without a Hauls used to run. So at 323 00:25:03.279 --> 00:25:06.839 May thirteenth will be there, doors of four getting the show going. It's 324 00:25:06.839 --> 00:25:11.680 to be a really fun show. Got some really big news coming. Promos 325 00:25:11.759 --> 00:25:15.400 just got done yesterday. They'll be getting updated and edited. But that'll be 326 00:25:15.480 --> 00:25:22.519 a show that you don't want to miss. Zeo, Yeah, you can 327 00:25:22.559 --> 00:25:29.400 always catch me at Gaway, Pile, Relentless or Stige whenever they're on the 328 00:25:29.440 --> 00:25:32.720 West Coast. I'm hopefully going to start traveling with them as much as possible 329 00:25:32.759 --> 00:25:37.000 if I can. Four flights everywhere you can find me down Circle six, 330 00:25:37.960 --> 00:25:42.400 no piece. I'm hoping to get in over there, working on trying to 331 00:25:42.400 --> 00:25:47.759 get over to Australia so I can do some deathmatch down under. Um. 332 00:25:48.519 --> 00:25:52.319 Yeah, so I'm all over you can see me all over the country. 333 00:25:52.319 --> 00:25:56.720 I've literally worked almost in two years of being in the business now, I've 334 00:25:56.759 --> 00:26:02.559 worked for twenty one promotions and four team states. So I just kind of 335 00:26:02.640 --> 00:26:06.680 keep traveling all over the place. Um, doing my thing, just trying 336 00:26:06.680 --> 00:26:12.480 to get out there makes it happen because to go ultimate goals impact so okay 337 00:26:12.759 --> 00:26:18.359 and everything I can to get there. Yeah, hey, I feel that, 338 00:26:18.640 --> 00:26:22.200 you know, ladies, gentle, this is referee Bradley, like this 339 00:26:22.279 --> 00:26:25.160 is this is awesome, This is awesome, and now it's time to have 340 00:26:25.240 --> 00:26:27.240 some fun. Time to have a little bit of fun. It's like I 341 00:26:27.319 --> 00:26:33.000 said, you know, everything can be categorized as a fire, trash or 342 00:26:33.119 --> 00:26:37.680 lunchable and mean to me. Lying has a list of five things for you, 343 00:26:37.000 --> 00:26:41.079 and I'm gonna let him take this part over. All right, let's 344 00:26:41.119 --> 00:26:44.240 go, all right, let's start it off. I always like to ask 345 00:26:44.279 --> 00:26:48.799 everybody, first off, this podcast, WTFW and podcasts in general, you 346 00:26:48.839 --> 00:26:53.640 know, what do you think I enjoy them? At first, I was 347 00:26:53.799 --> 00:27:00.240 real hestint on if I was gonna get on podcast. I was like, 348 00:27:00.400 --> 00:27:03.559 I don't know, because you know, I am a referee, and the 349 00:27:03.640 --> 00:27:06.759 show isn't about the referee. So I was like, it's more about them, 350 00:27:06.759 --> 00:27:08.440 you know, the people that are out there bumping and doing the rat 351 00:27:08.519 --> 00:27:12.519 work and putting in these matches. Um. But and then it kind of 352 00:27:12.599 --> 00:27:18.960 changed over the year, so I may say fire to podcast. Good podcasts, 353 00:27:19.799 --> 00:27:25.160 garbage podcast out there that do nothing good for the community. Um So 354 00:27:25.240 --> 00:27:27.519 with those you can throw them in the trash, but good podcasts fire. 355 00:27:29.160 --> 00:27:32.680 I love it. Well, we're all we're all about spreading love and good 356 00:27:32.759 --> 00:27:37.319 vibes over here. So I love the answer. Um xt off, peeps, 357 00:27:37.519 --> 00:27:40.680 what do you think of peeps? Marshmallows? Man? I like the 358 00:27:40.720 --> 00:27:48.880 cereal? Oh oh oh, the cereal is good. Do you know they 359 00:27:48.960 --> 00:27:53.559 make a PEPSI do? What do you know they make a PEPSI? I 360 00:27:53.559 --> 00:27:56.480 don't know about that. I'm a coke guy. If I'm gonna drink a 361 00:27:56.480 --> 00:28:00.640 pepsi or sod, I'm drinking coke. It's Peep's Pepsi. Yeah, you 362 00:28:00.799 --> 00:28:10.240 keep that, he said, trash trash, all right. Um, Well, 363 00:28:10.279 --> 00:28:11.960 being as you're the ref, what about Heckler's in the audience, what 364 00:28:12.000 --> 00:28:17.400 do you think about? What do you think about that? Um? I 365 00:28:17.480 --> 00:28:21.480 love it now, I'm honest to god, I don't when I when the 366 00:28:21.480 --> 00:28:25.200 match is going and I'm working, I'm in there and I'm watching because my 367 00:28:25.319 --> 00:28:29.200 job, first and foremost in the ring is the safety of the people working. 368 00:28:30.079 --> 00:28:33.240 Um So ninety nine percent of the time, I don't hear what's going 369 00:28:33.279 --> 00:28:38.079 on around me. Um, because I'm so focused on the action and making 370 00:28:38.119 --> 00:28:42.039 sure that they're safe. Um. So yeah, I like it, Like 371 00:28:42.039 --> 00:28:45.440 when I go back and watch the show and I and then I'm listening to 372 00:28:45.480 --> 00:28:48.279 it and I'm watching as a fan. Oh dude, when they started hackling 373 00:28:48.359 --> 00:28:52.039 me, that was a three you slow shit? I love it. Give 374 00:28:52.039 --> 00:28:59.440 it to him? Yeah, right on. I love that. But um, 375 00:29:00.079 --> 00:29:06.519 what about the comeback of mullets? What do you think fire? Oh 376 00:29:08.599 --> 00:29:17.039 no, no, no, absolutely no, no, No. I love 377 00:29:17.119 --> 00:29:19.680 you. I love you badly, but no, we're feuding on this one. 378 00:29:21.319 --> 00:29:29.400 Fire put over, pot me over if if most promotions, like you 379 00:29:29.400 --> 00:29:32.440 know, if you watch a referee on TV, they're clean shave and short 380 00:29:32.480 --> 00:29:36.599 haired, cover their tattoos like I do. Um. If it wasn't for 381 00:29:36.759 --> 00:29:41.440 that, like I would probably rock a mullet. Hell yeah, I don't 382 00:29:41.480 --> 00:29:44.799 have to hair though. I got that that that long step flat hair, 383 00:29:44.880 --> 00:29:52.039 so it just doesn't just go straight down. So no, no, Eddie 384 00:29:52.079 --> 00:29:59.079 Pearl killed it with the mullet. Facts. Okay, fire, you ain't 385 00:29:59.079 --> 00:30:00.720 putting me over you. You can have that fire, you can keep that 386 00:30:00.799 --> 00:30:06.599 fire. Okay, all right, we'll stick with the trend. What about 387 00:30:06.640 --> 00:30:18.200 country music generation Yeah, right now, right now, thrown in the garbage, 388 00:30:22.119 --> 00:30:27.799 absolutely said trash trash. Now you want to go like outlaw country, 389 00:30:27.839 --> 00:30:33.440 old school like John Cash, I've been going fire. Yeah there's some, 390 00:30:33.599 --> 00:30:36.319 I mean there's some. There's some good outlaw country right now. Man. 391 00:30:36.480 --> 00:30:41.000 So yeah, it's good. I mean there's good in all music. I'm 392 00:30:41.039 --> 00:30:44.920 not gonna say all the country music is garbage. Um, I'm just not 393 00:30:45.000 --> 00:30:48.960 a fan. I am. I'm a funk blues jazz guy. I need 394 00:30:48.960 --> 00:30:56.720 to be a metal head. But give me some lark. Well you got 395 00:30:56.759 --> 00:31:02.240 anything else, anything else mean to me? Yeah, Man, I don't 396 00:31:02.240 --> 00:31:03.200 think it could have We could have asked for anything more. Man, it 397 00:31:03.240 --> 00:31:07.240 was a great interview. Yeah. No, I mean you know, uh, 398 00:31:07.279 --> 00:31:11.160 you know it's everybody out there. Uh, I mean it when I 399 00:31:11.240 --> 00:31:15.240 say it. Referee Bradley, if you see him at any of the promotions 400 00:31:15.279 --> 00:31:19.079 that you that you possibly can go to and you see him add of promotion, 401 00:31:19.680 --> 00:31:23.079 he pu the dog shit out of him, the dog shit out of 402 00:31:23.119 --> 00:31:27.359 him, all right, because he is amazing at what he does. Um, 403 00:31:27.400 --> 00:31:30.759 he's amazing at what he what. You know, everything you're doing as 404 00:31:30.880 --> 00:31:36.039 being a part of the wrestling community, you're contributing so much and uh, 405 00:31:36.119 --> 00:31:40.400 you know in your reputation proceeds itself. There's a lot of respect for what 406 00:31:40.440 --> 00:31:44.079 you do in the ring, you know, and you know and outside the 407 00:31:44.160 --> 00:31:47.559 ring, you know, like building the you know the weapons and you know 408 00:31:47.720 --> 00:31:51.559 obviously with entrance musics and you know, it's just it's it's a beautiful thing. 409 00:31:51.799 --> 00:31:55.240 And that's what we're trying to do here the WTFW podcast. We are 410 00:31:55.240 --> 00:32:00.720 the only show on the channel, the ww podcast that he even shines a 411 00:32:00.839 --> 00:32:04.839 light on the Independence, And it was really because of the crop of people 412 00:32:04.880 --> 00:32:07.920 that we met, you know, with you in Sonico, you know, 413 00:32:07.079 --> 00:32:12.279 and kid Bandit, you know, Drexel, Amira Flax, you know, 414 00:32:12.599 --> 00:32:16.240 so Os you know, defied all of this. It was that that really 415 00:32:17.319 --> 00:32:22.480 really pushed us and realized where our spot needs to be in the podcast world, 416 00:32:22.799 --> 00:32:27.920 that it is shining a light on the independence scene. And also given 417 00:32:27.960 --> 00:32:30.359 the you know, given the casual fan that only watches what they see on 418 00:32:30.400 --> 00:32:35.440 TV, a chance to see some of these people before there even there, 419 00:32:35.960 --> 00:32:38.480 you know, like you're Willow Nightingales, like your Tie of Valkyries, you 420 00:32:38.480 --> 00:32:42.799 know, and you know, seeing am you know, it's it's amazing. 421 00:32:43.880 --> 00:32:46.240 Every one of those wrestlers that you see on WWE, or every single one 422 00:32:46.240 --> 00:32:51.599 of those wrestlers that you see in AW or Impact, they all started wrestling 423 00:32:51.599 --> 00:32:55.960 in a gymnasium somewhere and and and that's I feel like people forget that. 424 00:32:57.559 --> 00:33:04.440 Not everybody, Cio, He's right, yeah, we're just trying to we're 425 00:33:04.440 --> 00:33:07.480 trying to shot a light on it. So Wall, well, I got 426 00:33:07.519 --> 00:33:10.720 a little fan thing for you here. I think taking the tribal chief title, 427 00:33:12.599 --> 00:33:20.039 I thought, oh, I think it's Jay Jay I think Solo, 428 00:33:20.279 --> 00:33:22.359 you think Jay, Yeah, I mean it should have been Sammy. It 429 00:33:22.400 --> 00:33:28.839 should have been Sammy. That's all I want to say. But I know, 430 00:33:28.960 --> 00:33:30.640 and to be honest with you, me and to me talking about this 431 00:33:30.799 --> 00:33:38.920 last week, Solo Sequoia has actually being quietly built better than a lot of 432 00:33:39.200 --> 00:33:43.759 a lot of wrestlers on WW in a long time. I mean they've had 433 00:33:43.759 --> 00:33:46.559 omas, you know, at their disposal for over a year. They can't 434 00:33:46.599 --> 00:33:50.440 they don't know what to do with it, you know what I'm saying. 435 00:33:50.440 --> 00:33:54.279 But quietly he's only lost one and a half matches one of them was a 436 00:33:54.319 --> 00:33:59.720 taxi match. One and a half matches the whole year. And he doesn't 437 00:33:59.759 --> 00:34:01.880 have to talk, and he's he's he's a force to be reckon with. 438 00:34:02.000 --> 00:34:06.119 You know. I'm very very happy with what they've done with soul Us a 439 00:34:06.200 --> 00:34:10.280 coil, very very so well. Hey, you know you got a big 440 00:34:10.480 --> 00:34:14.440 man. I need to stop using your name. Huh. I'll edit it 441 00:34:14.559 --> 00:34:16.280 later. People are gonna wonder what I just said there, so I will 442 00:34:16.320 --> 00:34:21.960 take that out. Mean to me lying and you got anything else left for 443 00:34:22.320 --> 00:34:25.360 left for mister brad Lee here, no man, Just just to say that 444 00:34:25.400 --> 00:34:30.960 it was a pleasure and we appreciate you coming on man. Oh yeah, 445 00:34:30.280 --> 00:34:36.679 that comes from me to uh you know, and the floor is always open. 446 00:34:36.840 --> 00:34:40.039 You know, our our platform is open to you whenever you want it. 447 00:34:40.159 --> 00:34:44.000 You know, if you want to, you know, promote some upcoming 448 00:34:44.000 --> 00:34:45.800 shows, you just want to call in and uh you know, you know, 449 00:34:45.840 --> 00:34:49.719 pop your head into podcast just to talk some trash. You know, 450 00:34:49.840 --> 00:34:54.039 hey, you are more than welcome anytime anywhere. And and that's one hard 451 00:34:54.119 --> 00:34:58.079 step mets right there, you know, out of doubt. If you guys 452 00:34:58.079 --> 00:35:01.960 want to come up to Timber for well, then you know what people you 453 00:35:02.000 --> 00:35:08.400 know, the drill at WTFW trash on the Twitter, the TikTok to Instagram. 454 00:35:09.000 --> 00:35:15.519 Uh, this has been referee Bradley. Thanks again one last time, 455 00:35:15.559 --> 00:35:20.960 thank you so much. I'm Kanye Twitty. That isn't the mean lion. 456 00:35:21.199 --> 00:35:23.519 And you know, hey, we always do this for everybody on our show 457 00:35:24.360 --> 00:35:29.559 before we say goodbye, uh, leaving with whatever you want to, leaving 458 00:35:29.639 --> 00:35:32.000 with some wisdom, some ball, craps, some trash, whatever it is. 459 00:35:32.239 --> 00:35:39.000 The floor is yours, mister Bradley. Let's see me kain treat everybody 460 00:35:39.039 --> 00:35:45.960 that's respect and let's stop me off of using children, beach Stars, dark 461 00:35:46.000 --> 00:35:54.360 Cass, good words, bloodget bloodget alright. This has been the WTFW podcast 462 00:35:54.880 --> 00:36:06.199 and we out thank you y'all. Don't remember that's just are we in general? 463 00:36:06.480 --> 00:36:10.039 I know the Pacific northlast weeks to learn now right a currently don't where 464 00:36:10.880 --> 00:36:21.119 that's that's the that's the advice of all right, goodbye podcast, We out 465 00:36:21.840 --> 00:36:29.519 boo. Yeah, thanks for listening to the WWE podcast. Don't forget to 466 00:36:29.559 --> 00:36:34.559 subscribe on your favorite podcast app so you don't miss a show, or head 467 00:36:34.559 --> 00:36:39.039 to WWE podcast dot com and for all of these shows add free head over 468 00:36:39.119 --> 00:36:46.440 to Patreon dot com slash WWE podcast. Until then, we'll see you next time.