1 00:00:01,560 --> 00:00:10,439 The Paranormal UFOs Wends Mysteries. As you're listening to Talking Weird and Know from 2 00:00:10,439 --> 00:00:42,399 a Kevin Deep in the Northwoods, your host, Doctor Ding Bertram, Well, 3 00:00:42,560 --> 00:00:46,039 greetings to all my fellow weirdos and weirdos. Thank you for joining me 4 00:00:46,119 --> 00:00:52,039 for Talking Weird on the Untold Radio Network. I'm your host, Dean Bertram, 5 00:00:52,079 --> 00:00:55,119 and I feel like the summer is ending here in the Northwoods. Finally, 6 00:00:55,119 --> 00:00:58,399 it was a little cool with the day and I was editing the film 7 00:00:58,399 --> 00:01:02,399 I'm working on the Man who invented Playing sources about Ray Palmer and the Shaver 8 00:01:02,520 --> 00:01:04,400 mystery and how it kind of led in them on newfo Belief, And all 9 00:01:04,439 --> 00:01:07,359 of a sudden, it's eight o'clock and it's dark and metter we unfairly north 10 00:01:07,519 --> 00:01:11,120 and I realized I hadn't let my chickens into their coupe. I'd kept them 11 00:01:11,120 --> 00:01:11,920 out for a while to day because there was one hen in there. I 12 00:01:11,959 --> 00:01:17,400 wanted them to leave alone. And there were chickens everywhere throughout my yard. 13 00:01:17,439 --> 00:01:19,239 I had to round them all up. Anyway, that's a sign of summers 14 00:01:19,519 --> 00:01:22,760 going because not me. I don't have to let them in until close at 15 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:26,079 weight thirty nine, So for those of you who were further up north like 16 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:29,959 me, you might be feeling it as well. But I know down south 17 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:34,439 it's still pretty warm, so I hope everybody can enjoy the last of their 18 00:01:34,519 --> 00:01:38,840 summer. I'm really excited to welcome back to night's guest. He's been on 19 00:01:38,879 --> 00:01:42,680 the show before. He's a writer and experiencer who is well known for his 20 00:01:42,760 --> 00:01:47,319 popular shows of his own Brunch with Bigfoot Michigan Rob and Beyond a BMR. 21 00:01:47,439 --> 00:01:51,000 Both are available on his YouTube channel, which you can click through to in 22 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:53,319 this episode show notes if you want to go and check it out. After 23 00:01:53,319 --> 00:01:57,200 the show, he's visiting with me tonight to chat about his brand new book. 24 00:01:57,200 --> 00:02:00,319 It's just been released. It's called True crypt Encounters, and he's going 25 00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:05,000 to share some of the remarkable experiences that it covers, including an incredible assortments 26 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:07,719 of Bigfoot and dog man sightings. There's also a link in the show notes 27 00:02:07,759 --> 00:02:12,080 to where you can acquire that book on Amazon. So at any rate, 28 00:02:12,199 --> 00:02:16,719 I'm delighted to welcome back to Talking Weird Rob Kniffel, you probably better know 29 00:02:16,919 --> 00:02:24,759 as Bigfoot Michigan Rob. Yeah, Hey, hello, Doctor Dean Bertram, 30 00:02:24,800 --> 00:02:28,120 thank you. It's great. You know, I've never called you by your 31 00:02:28,199 --> 00:02:30,919 last name before, but now you're an official author, I've got to actually 32 00:02:30,919 --> 00:02:34,639 say that because that's in the book. You know. That's so funny because 33 00:02:34,680 --> 00:02:38,199 you know, when I started my YouTube channel, it was Bigfoot Michigan Rob. 34 00:02:38,039 --> 00:02:44,439 Then it kind of morphed into BMR. Yeah, my last name is 35 00:02:44,520 --> 00:02:49,159 Karen Fell. You almost had it right, so I felt weird. You 36 00:02:49,199 --> 00:02:52,159 know. The first thing I did when I was going to publish the book 37 00:02:53,520 --> 00:02:54,639 was, man, should I put my name? But you know, when 38 00:02:54,639 --> 00:02:59,240 you write a book, doctor, you want to put your name on it. 39 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:01,800 So when I titled when I made it came up the title, I 40 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:06,360 said, well, people know me is Bigfoot Missian Rob. So when I 41 00:03:06,439 --> 00:03:13,759 penned the title, I went with Bigfoot Mischian Rob presents True crypt Encounters Book 42 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:19,039 one and the bottom right is my actual legal name. So to blend that 43 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:22,680 all together, because yeah, when you write a book I'm excited about, 44 00:03:22,719 --> 00:03:24,520 you gotta put your real name on it. You know, you want, 45 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:29,680 you want your actual name out there. I want. It's exciting, you 46 00:03:29,759 --> 00:03:32,879 know because a lot of people that many of the people they are going to 47 00:03:32,960 --> 00:03:37,080 read the book, they don't know who the hell b Mars. So, 48 00:03:37,080 --> 00:03:40,560 so yeah, I put it all together. And before we even get started, 49 00:03:40,680 --> 00:03:44,280 thank you for showing the book cover. I have to do make a 50 00:03:44,319 --> 00:03:49,400 special men mention Jason McClean, a friend of yours, doctor Dean. He 51 00:03:49,439 --> 00:03:53,280 did the cover and he has a credit in the book. And in fact, 52 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:57,439 if you go to Amazon and you pull up this actual book, Jason's 53 00:03:57,479 --> 00:04:01,199 McClean is Jason McClean is highlighted, and if you click on Jason's name, 54 00:04:01,919 --> 00:04:05,319 that'll take you to all of his books as well. So it was kind 55 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:10,520 of unique that I gave Jason a lot of props because he helped me with 56 00:04:10,520 --> 00:04:15,079 the cover and he also did some light editing for me. So it props 57 00:04:15,120 --> 00:04:19,319 out to Jason because he's one hell of a writer himself, and a great 58 00:04:19,399 --> 00:04:23,480 as you can see about to cover, a great artist. Yeah, he's 59 00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:26,439 multi talented. He's a great road I offered a cup with his books, 60 00:04:26,439 --> 00:04:30,519 and his art is incredible. Was that who you immediately decided to go to? 61 00:04:30,720 --> 00:04:31,839 Art wise, we look, I'm gonna hit Jason Apple. Did you 62 00:04:31,879 --> 00:04:34,800 have a few different people you were considering? Well, you know for this 63 00:04:34,839 --> 00:04:39,040 book, you know I was going to make a collaboration with somebody else, 64 00:04:40,519 --> 00:04:43,120 but I thought because they were a known writer. But I was like, 65 00:04:43,279 --> 00:04:46,160 you know, who cares about you know, a known writer? This is 66 00:04:46,199 --> 00:04:48,959 mine. This is what I've worked on for a year and a half. 67 00:04:49,680 --> 00:04:53,639 I said, you know what, I don't care if the person is known. 68 00:04:54,720 --> 00:04:58,240 I want myself to be known. So I said, thank you for 69 00:04:58,319 --> 00:05:01,839 that. I'm doing it myself. And when I look for artistry, there 70 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:04,040 was a couple of the people I had in mind. But I've been friends 71 00:05:04,079 --> 00:05:08,160 with Jason for a couple of years and he does all the artwork for my 72 00:05:08,199 --> 00:05:14,000 YouTube channel as well as well as tex Texas from Porsche on YouTube and The 73 00:05:14,040 --> 00:05:16,759 Blonds and the Booze Paranormal podcasts on YouTube as well. He's done all the 74 00:05:16,839 --> 00:05:20,319 artwork for them. And Jason's such a great guy. I've known him for 75 00:05:20,319 --> 00:05:24,160 a couple of years. As I made mention, so I said, Jason, 76 00:05:24,160 --> 00:05:27,199 you want to do my art my artwork? He was heck yeah. 77 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:30,879 So so I went with Jason on that and he did. As you can 78 00:05:30,920 --> 00:05:35,199 see, it's just it's just it begs to be bought just because of the 79 00:05:35,720 --> 00:05:39,959 artwork. You know, you know what I must I want to post that 80 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:43,759 I'm like, whoa, Actually, that's fantastic. Now what gave you the 81 00:05:43,839 --> 00:05:46,399 idea to do the book though? Was it just you were hearing so many 82 00:05:46,439 --> 00:05:49,680 interesting encounter reports on your show. You know, it really goes back, 83 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:54,120 you know, Dean, he goes back to the reason for the book. 84 00:05:54,199 --> 00:05:58,600 I'm not going to go through my bigfoot encounter. Okay, because I did 85 00:05:58,639 --> 00:06:00,600 this once on your show. A lot of people have heard it and this 86 00:06:00,639 --> 00:06:06,079 show isn't about BMR is Bigfoot encounter. But I will say this, the 87 00:06:06,160 --> 00:06:11,079 reason that the Bigfoot mission on YouTube's channel even started it was because of my 88 00:06:11,199 --> 00:06:15,160 encounter. And when I had my encounter, I was a lost puppy. 89 00:06:15,240 --> 00:06:18,879 I had nowhere to go. I was in a dark place for over a 90 00:06:18,959 --> 00:06:26,560 year. Nobody there was nobody that you could trust, and these stories and 91 00:06:26,680 --> 00:06:31,279 my story was so out there. I'm not gonna lie that. You don't 92 00:06:31,279 --> 00:06:36,439 want to tell anybody. So eventually I got it together, I got my 93 00:06:36,480 --> 00:06:42,079 life together, create the YouTube channel, and then that took off, and 94 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:46,240 so I had the notion I say, hey, if you have an encounter 95 00:06:46,399 --> 00:06:53,439 story, please send them into my email beyond BMR Gmail and I'll put out 96 00:06:53,519 --> 00:06:57,439 videos for you guys. If you want to be anonymous, and a lot 97 00:06:57,480 --> 00:07:01,959 of people till this day, doctor Dean, people don't want their name out 98 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:06,800 there in public, and a lot of people don't want that fifteen minutes of 99 00:07:06,800 --> 00:07:14,720 fame. However, they do want their story told. So I started doing 100 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:19,199 videos on people's stories on my channel and I got to tell you these stories, 101 00:07:19,480 --> 00:07:25,360 and the emails that I got over the last two years got me to 102 00:07:25,439 --> 00:07:31,279 thinking, I've got to put this on paper. I need to present the 103 00:07:31,399 --> 00:07:36,800 data because, as you know, part of research is data, data collecting. 104 00:07:38,519 --> 00:07:40,879 And with all these stories that I got, I said, you know 105 00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:46,279 what, I got to fashion a book with the with the folks that sent 106 00:07:46,360 --> 00:07:49,680 them in of course, with their approval, because I talked to everybody that 107 00:07:50,279 --> 00:07:55,759 provided a story and put it together. Now, this book, though, 108 00:07:55,879 --> 00:07:59,959 is not a cut and paste job because a lot of the encounter stories you'll 109 00:08:00,079 --> 00:08:03,120 find this book, I had to use my own creative liberties. I had 110 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:05,800 to call the people back. Was it a sunny day, was it a 111 00:08:05,800 --> 00:08:09,600 foggy day, was it raining? So a lot of what is in the 112 00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:15,839 book I did have to enhance the book to make it entertaining. But the 113 00:08:15,920 --> 00:08:22,240 crux of the book is this the encounter stories provided to me happened to these 114 00:08:22,279 --> 00:08:26,560 people from what they tell me, and I even took time to vet some 115 00:08:26,680 --> 00:08:31,360 of them. I took time to look up some of the locations and they 116 00:08:31,399 --> 00:08:33,559 all checked out. And I said, you know, I think I'm going 117 00:08:33,600 --> 00:08:39,399 to provide this in a book, and I gotta tell you it's so far, 118 00:08:39,600 --> 00:08:43,960 it's taken off, it's done. I've never written a book, so 119 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:48,080 I don't know what the numbers are, but people are responding to it, 120 00:08:48,159 --> 00:08:54,039 people are buying it, and I couldn't be happier. And so now it's 121 00:08:54,120 --> 00:08:58,120 out there. And the one thing that I just people don't take anything away 122 00:08:58,159 --> 00:09:03,799 from this show today, the book is because I care. I was there, 123 00:09:03,840 --> 00:09:07,279 I was lost when I was alone. So this book is dedicated and 124 00:09:07,320 --> 00:09:11,960 I wrote it in the acknowledgements, this is for those people that still today 125 00:09:13,240 --> 00:09:18,320 are wandering around because they have nowhere to turn to. And I wanted people 126 00:09:18,360 --> 00:09:22,519 to know, whether you watch my channel, whether you watch a video or 127 00:09:22,559 --> 00:09:28,840 buy this book, the book is dedicated for the suffering people that just can't 128 00:09:28,879 --> 00:09:35,559 come forward. So the book is dedicated to them and their stories. Some 129 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:45,720 of the stories are very traumatic, some are uplifting, leave a great message. 130 00:09:45,879 --> 00:09:48,919 And think about the book. It leaves a message whether you believe in 131 00:09:48,039 --> 00:09:54,399 cryptos or not. It's a good book for everybody because there's a story and 132 00:09:54,440 --> 00:10:00,360 there's a life experience behind all of these people that I may come to life 133 00:10:00,480 --> 00:10:05,080 in the book. One of the things which interests I mean, we did 134 00:10:05,080 --> 00:10:07,559 talk a little bit about it last time, but I think it's worth mentioning 135 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:11,480 again because it came up then a little bit is that when everybody listens to 136 00:10:11,519 --> 00:10:15,000 these kind of reports and enjoys these kinds of stories, there's so many people 137 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:16,840 in the community and even on the outskirts to I mean, it's so popular 138 00:10:16,919 --> 00:10:20,799 just in television and movies and everything else. Is I think we tend to 139 00:10:20,799 --> 00:10:26,559 forget the impact that this thing has on people psychologically and how it sometimes can 140 00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:31,000 almost ruin lives. Is that something you were quite conscious of when you were 141 00:10:31,039 --> 00:10:35,360 talking to people as well being careful as far as dealing with the trauma and 142 00:10:35,480 --> 00:10:39,039 things. Well, I have to tell you I was very cognizant of that 143 00:10:39,279 --> 00:10:41,840 because, as I told you, when I had my bigfoot encounter, I 144 00:10:41,919 --> 00:10:48,080 went through trauma. I owned a business and when this happened, my girlfriend 145 00:10:48,120 --> 00:10:52,759 passed away two months later. Who was with me during this encounter? So 146 00:10:52,799 --> 00:10:56,120 I thought, and it was a bigfoot encounter for those that don't know, 147 00:10:56,120 --> 00:10:58,799 I thought that Bigfoot has something to do with it. Again, it's a 148 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:03,480 story. I'm not going to get into it. But it was very traumatizing 149 00:11:03,679 --> 00:11:09,440 and she passed away two months later. I owned a business and I tried 150 00:11:09,440 --> 00:11:13,039 to find out why did Cindy, my girlfriend at the time die. This 151 00:11:13,080 --> 00:11:18,840 is back in twenty eighteen, June fifteenth, but I know where to turn 152 00:11:20,960 --> 00:11:26,960 so in retros back when I talk to these people with their encounters, I 153 00:11:26,120 --> 00:11:35,279 absolutely I'm very empathetic toward their story, and I totally realize and understand why 154 00:11:35,320 --> 00:11:41,360 they don't want to make it public. They want to be anonymous because a 155 00:11:41,399 --> 00:11:46,080 lot of these people are doctors and lawyers, business owners, or people that 156 00:11:46,200 --> 00:11:50,440 worked the graveyard shift in a factory. It doesn't matter everybody. People are 157 00:11:50,519 --> 00:11:56,080 people to me, but they just don't want bad judgments right thrown at them. 158 00:11:56,080 --> 00:12:01,120 They don't want to be ridiculed. So by doing a book and putting 159 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:05,440 their story into words, I think they gives them a sense of relief. 160 00:12:05,080 --> 00:12:09,399 Much like when I told my story for the very first time, I've told 161 00:12:09,720 --> 00:12:13,919 the first ten times I told my story, and the typically was on a 162 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:20,440 radio show or on a YouTube podcast, I had a whole back tears because 163 00:12:20,480 --> 00:12:26,360 I was still traumatized from PTSD and from the depth of my girlfriend that was 164 00:12:26,399 --> 00:12:31,759 with me in the theme that I saw, which I till this day called 165 00:12:31,759 --> 00:12:35,360 a demon, I don't think it is today. And again that's in the 166 00:12:35,399 --> 00:12:39,320 book. I've told the story and it's not about my encounter. But this 167 00:12:39,399 --> 00:12:41,840 is really the reason, though, why I did my YouTube channel, and 168 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:46,480 it's the reason why I wrote the book, because people need to hear these 169 00:12:46,519 --> 00:12:50,559 stories, and to me, I'm helping. If I can help one person, 170 00:12:50,120 --> 00:12:54,159 just one get through their day, then I feel that I did my 171 00:12:54,279 --> 00:13:01,679 job. Are you staying open from people to contact you and give you more 172 00:13:01,720 --> 00:13:05,519 reports that you continue to talk about on your shows and potentially mention in a 173 00:13:05,519 --> 00:13:07,399 new book, because I know this one says book one, so presumably this 174 00:13:07,519 --> 00:13:11,200 is going to be more following. Well, you know I'm gonna sell Book 175 00:13:11,240 --> 00:13:16,000 one does, of course, but book two as already being written. I've 176 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:22,240 got ninety two stories in the queue. And again and the one thing that 177 00:13:22,279 --> 00:13:26,919 I do provide though, is I also do a lot of these stories on 178 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:33,799 my channel Bigfoot miarsk Rob on YouTube. I do videos and tell the stories 179 00:13:33,879 --> 00:13:37,080 that way as well, and a lot of them on book one I put 180 00:13:37,159 --> 00:13:41,759 into the book. So Book two is going to be kind of a lot 181 00:13:41,840 --> 00:13:46,720 like Book one is to be the same concept. I might change it up 182 00:13:46,759 --> 00:13:50,600 and again, Dean, it just depends on how this one does. But 183 00:13:50,720 --> 00:13:56,159 even if it does, okay, my number one goal is to present the 184 00:13:56,240 --> 00:14:01,480 stories for the people, because I am one or the people. Let's talk 185 00:14:01,519 --> 00:14:05,360 about a couple of the stories, because I know that's what I'm sure lots 186 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:07,960 of people in the audience I like to hear about as well. I said, 187 00:14:07,240 --> 00:14:11,120 just give me one of the step Maybe let's start with a standout bigfoot 188 00:14:11,159 --> 00:14:13,600 one like one which you first heard and were quite surprised by, which you 189 00:14:13,639 --> 00:14:16,919 know it was different to what you were expecting. Yeah, yeah, you 190 00:14:16,919 --> 00:14:22,600 know, I can get into that now. Everyone that's listening listening now on 191 00:14:22,759 --> 00:14:26,919 YouTube and listening, you gotta remember I wrote it took me about a year. 192 00:14:26,960 --> 00:14:30,320 I started. I wrote this book last September. I started writing it. 193 00:14:30,480 --> 00:14:33,759 So I'm not going to read any of these stories because as boring for 194 00:14:33,080 --> 00:14:37,320 people watching on YouTube. So I'm gonna do it from memory, so you 195 00:14:37,360 --> 00:14:41,519 have to just bear in mind that a lot of details might be I might 196 00:14:41,600 --> 00:14:48,320 forget, but my memory is decent. So one bigfoot story that really stood 197 00:14:48,320 --> 00:15:01,320 out to me was one that took place in Mount Shasta. There was a 198 00:15:01,399 --> 00:15:07,960 man that built a home. He took it took him three years. He 199 00:15:07,200 --> 00:15:11,799 had a successful business, he sold his business, and the story is called 200 00:15:11,840 --> 00:15:16,840 mout chast a big Foot in the book if I recall correctly, And he 201 00:15:16,919 --> 00:15:20,600 knew about bigfoot, he knew about cryptids, but he wasn't a researcher. 202 00:15:20,679 --> 00:15:24,279 He just eat or heard about it, and whether he believed or not, 203 00:15:26,559 --> 00:15:31,679 that was his thing. He built a beautiful home and during the three it 204 00:15:31,720 --> 00:15:35,879 took him three years to build a home. And again he just sold a 205 00:15:35,960 --> 00:15:41,600 business, and so he started going into the local community and he was buying 206 00:15:41,720 --> 00:15:46,960 lumber, and then he started looking around. He realized that he couldn't build 207 00:15:46,960 --> 00:15:50,679 this home on his own, and he was brand new to the area. 208 00:15:52,399 --> 00:15:56,679 So he started talking to local contractors and that to help him. But he 209 00:15:56,759 --> 00:16:00,480 was always in town every week. In the town was about an hour drive 210 00:16:00,559 --> 00:16:06,159 from his property. And so finally, after about a year into the building 211 00:16:06,200 --> 00:16:11,799 of his home. People were mentioning to him, Hey, where's your home. 212 00:16:11,879 --> 00:16:14,559 Where's your house being built? He goes, well, it's in mouth 213 00:16:14,679 --> 00:16:18,879 Chesta's in the foothills. Well, you know, there's a lot of big 214 00:16:18,919 --> 00:16:21,879 foot. They're run around there. And he's like, what do you mean 215 00:16:21,960 --> 00:16:26,039 bigfoot? Oh, yeah, sasquatch. And he got a hold of a 216 00:16:26,080 --> 00:16:32,399 couple of tribal First Nations people telling them about that. So he was intrigued, 217 00:16:33,320 --> 00:16:37,840 but he went about his business. Two years ago by his house is 218 00:16:37,960 --> 00:16:41,879 finally built. It's a beautiful two level home and it overlooks He had like 219 00:16:41,960 --> 00:16:48,159 five acres of property. In the backyard. It was about one hundred yards 220 00:16:48,240 --> 00:16:52,679 to the tree line, and in the back of the tree line was a 221 00:16:52,720 --> 00:16:59,919 beautiful view of Mount Shasta, enjoying all the fauna, nature, everything running 222 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:04,759 through there. So one night he's sitting out on his deck he had dual 223 00:17:04,880 --> 00:17:11,079 decks, and on top of his deck upstairs, it was dusky, dawn 224 00:17:11,400 --> 00:17:15,920 dust, it was dusky, almost going the sun was settling, and he 225 00:17:17,039 --> 00:17:23,519 heard this very strange howl, one that he was unfamiliar with. Now living 226 00:17:23,559 --> 00:17:27,880 there for three years, he heard all the howls of the fox the wolf, 227 00:17:30,279 --> 00:17:33,559 the grunt or grown of the bear. So he was very familiar and 228 00:17:33,599 --> 00:17:41,119 got accustomed to what they vocalized. But this vocalization to him was very different. 229 00:17:41,279 --> 00:17:45,559 It was deep, it was a roar, and he found it to 230 00:17:45,599 --> 00:17:52,079 be quite peculiar, so he puts it in his memory bank. About two 231 00:17:52,160 --> 00:17:56,799 days later, he gets out and walking his property and again the tree line 232 00:17:56,880 --> 00:18:03,599 starts maybe a hundred yards, I said from his home and her he noticed 233 00:18:03,599 --> 00:18:08,880 he's enormous tracks footprints. He looked like a human being. They had five 234 00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:15,880 to impression, but they were like twenty one inches long by maybe eight inches 235 00:18:15,000 --> 00:18:21,920 wide eight inches wide. He said, who walks around barefoot? Around here? 236 00:18:21,920 --> 00:18:26,319 And number one? Who has a foot that big? Now we've all 237 00:18:26,440 --> 00:18:30,240 Then he says that he made makes mention in the book. I know who 238 00:18:30,319 --> 00:18:34,680 Shaquille O'Neill is, the NBA basketball great who had really big feet. I 239 00:18:34,759 --> 00:18:40,480 think I think he had twenty one Nike right, But he thought, who 240 00:18:40,519 --> 00:18:45,119 walks around barefoot? And he they had mentioned it's kind of fall, so 241 00:18:45,160 --> 00:18:48,200 it's cool out, but who does that? So he kind of was, 242 00:18:48,319 --> 00:18:52,279 you know, interested, So he started researching and looking around his property and 243 00:18:52,880 --> 00:18:57,559 found nothing else. And he went back to his home. A week later, 244 00:18:57,680 --> 00:19:06,759 he here's again this the same sound, this very odd, very peculiar 245 00:19:07,200 --> 00:19:12,839 vocalization. But now it's closer again. He's on his top deck. He 246 00:19:12,920 --> 00:19:18,839 looks out and he sees the shadow, as he explains, of a humanoid 247 00:19:18,880 --> 00:19:25,680 looking figure. And in the book he says, rob is probably like nine 248 00:19:25,720 --> 00:19:29,519 foot tall, but it's shadowy. It had a shape of a human but 249 00:19:29,599 --> 00:19:33,960 it was very odd because it was very wide, like four ft wide ten 250 00:19:34,039 --> 00:19:37,079 feet tall, and it was a shadow. But you can see the image 251 00:19:37,680 --> 00:19:44,119 again of a humanoid and it was standing on two feet and as he's looking, 252 00:19:45,039 --> 00:19:49,559 it turned around and ran back into the tree line. The very next 253 00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:53,440 day, he goes into town. He gets to a couple of the tribal 254 00:19:53,519 --> 00:20:00,519 folks that made mention to him about sasquatch. Now he's inquiring, and they 255 00:20:00,559 --> 00:20:04,759 say, yes, we told you before that they inherit the earth, inherit 256 00:20:04,839 --> 00:20:11,000 the land in which you now live. So he's talking to these folks and 257 00:20:11,039 --> 00:20:15,720 all of a sudden, then he runs to a store, a camera place, 258 00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:22,079 and he buys a big telescope that he's now going to use a mount 259 00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:27,799 on top of his deck to now look into the forest, which I thought 260 00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:33,200 was weird because of Dean. If I had if I lived in Mother Nature, 261 00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:34,880 i'd have one. I would have had a long time ago, just 262 00:20:36,039 --> 00:20:40,920 to look at everything. But he never had one. He purchases this about 263 00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:45,960 a month and two. He's combing the tree line and he and he makes 264 00:20:45,039 --> 00:20:49,119 mention that he sees a set of glowing eyes, glowing eyes in the tree 265 00:20:49,119 --> 00:20:56,240 line. Wow, what could that be? And they're hovering from the ground 266 00:20:56,319 --> 00:21:02,279 up there again, hovering relatively tall, nine ten feet tall. He goes 267 00:21:02,359 --> 00:21:07,799 to bed that night. Now he had three dogs. They were called Larry, 268 00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:14,319 Mow and Curly. Yeah, that's what he named him. And he 269 00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:18,359 never his dogs or I forget that. I'm sorry, I forget what type 270 00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:21,880 of dogs they were. They were. I think I'll ask Mail Moose. 271 00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:27,039 Perhaps again it's in the book. I don't remember, but but they were 272 00:21:27,079 --> 00:21:33,519 always very calm. They were never much for barking or anything. He let 273 00:21:33,559 --> 00:21:38,079 him out late one night. They're outside and this howl comes again from the 274 00:21:38,119 --> 00:21:45,920 tree line. Well, the dogs make a bee line into his home and 275 00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:53,000 he lets the dogs in. The immediately run underneath his kitchen table on the 276 00:21:53,039 --> 00:22:02,119 lower level, and they are there whimpering and crying, and you know, 277 00:22:02,319 --> 00:22:06,240 and and the and the writer or the man that sent the email, and 278 00:22:06,599 --> 00:22:10,319 got very disturbed by this because this was very unusual, and he's had the 279 00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:17,680 dogs now for several years, so maybe perhaps it was intuition or whatever it 280 00:22:17,799 --> 00:22:21,599 was. But he ran up his stairs and he wanted to get out on 281 00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:26,880 his deck and look into the yard and use his telescope. Well, he 282 00:22:26,039 --> 00:22:30,559 is to the top of the stairs, and as soon as he makes it 283 00:22:30,599 --> 00:22:37,559 to the top of the level of the of the second floor, he sees 284 00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:45,519 on the second floor a mind you, instead of glowing eyes staring into the 285 00:22:45,599 --> 00:22:51,079 upper room. He stopped. He looks, he cannot move, He's paralyzed. 286 00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:55,160 What there's no way. There is no way. As in the book 287 00:22:55,160 --> 00:23:00,839 he explains, it's like a ten foot second level from the ground and he 288 00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:07,880 sees a set of these glowing eyes staring into his house. Rob He says, 289 00:23:08,079 --> 00:23:15,519 I was frozen in time, trying to process what I'm seeing. He 290 00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:21,559 still hears his dogs whimpering down below in the down on the second on the 291 00:23:21,599 --> 00:23:26,920 lower level, So he says, I got a gump, I got a 292 00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:33,160 will power, or I shook out of whatever trance I was, and I 293 00:23:33,319 --> 00:23:37,920 made toward the eyes, toward the eyes. The eyes all of a sudden 294 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:42,240 dropped down. He can't see them. And now, he says, he 295 00:23:42,319 --> 00:23:48,440 looks out and he sees his big shadow, something on two feet running into 296 00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:55,200 the forest. He grabs his telescope and he's trying to pan and find it, 297 00:23:55,279 --> 00:23:57,640 which, as you know, that was probably a difficult task. He 298 00:23:57,720 --> 00:24:02,960 says, he got lucky as this the entered the woods, that turned around 299 00:24:03,279 --> 00:24:07,000 and he saw the face of something that looked like a human being, yet 300 00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:12,920 not a human being. Something both human and animal looked, saw the glare 301 00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:18,240 of the eyes, and it returns into the forest. Now he knows there's 302 00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:26,200 something. Now he's now now he's fully believing what the First Nations people are 303 00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:30,519 telling him about this. He goes down, he comforts his dogs. The 304 00:24:30,559 --> 00:24:36,240 next morning, he goes back into town. He tracks down one of the 305 00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:41,359 First Nations people that became friends with and told him about the experience and say, 306 00:24:41,519 --> 00:24:49,519 yes, that was sasquatch. Now do you believe And he goes, 307 00:24:49,559 --> 00:24:56,799 yeah, I believe because I saw something that should not exist. There's more 308 00:24:56,839 --> 00:25:03,920 to the story, but in conclusion of the a story, he's never seen 309 00:25:03,039 --> 00:25:08,400 this creature again, but he's still to this day. According to him, 310 00:25:08,559 --> 00:25:15,440 here's the house from the depths of the woods, and he thinks that it's 311 00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:22,880 kind of now he feels that it's maybe looking over him because they've caused him 312 00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:26,440 no harm. He has done nothing to the dogs. The dogs ever since 313 00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:30,759 that they are more relaxed and calm, And he thinks that this creature does 314 00:25:32,079 --> 00:25:37,880 look over his property, and he thinks that it does come around because he 315 00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:42,279 has seen tracks on his property. But he says he's at ease. He 316 00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:52,519 says, rob sasquatch doesn't exist. Wow. What jumped out, other than 317 00:25:52,559 --> 00:25:57,799 the stunning soughting itself in that and the ridiculously told obviously creature, is that 318 00:25:57,880 --> 00:26:04,839 Mount shast is hot spot not just for sasquatches, but for UFOs for stories 319 00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:11,039 about entrance ways to ancient civilizations and the inner Earth to New Age sensibilities, 320 00:26:11,559 --> 00:26:15,440 which kind of ties in. I think with a question we had from Emily 321 00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:18,279 Men's house from What the Frick Live. I was actually on What the Frick 322 00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:22,480 Live on Friday night talking about the man who inventifying sources said people should go 323 00:26:22,519 --> 00:26:26,559 and check that show out. But she asked, I'm interested in frequency in 324 00:26:26,599 --> 00:26:30,480 an area during the time of witnesses seeing Cryptid's, bigfoots, etc. Do 325 00:26:30,519 --> 00:26:34,519 you think there are areas where there might be I don't know a frequency, 326 00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:38,359 or there's a reason there might be a window areas John Kill talked about, 327 00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:44,359 or something that is seeing more of these strange things manifest. Well, I 328 00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:47,519 gotta tell you something about this. This is a very great question. I 329 00:26:48,279 --> 00:26:55,400 My encounter that I came across in Leak Catile Act mission was June fifteenth, 330 00:26:55,519 --> 00:27:00,519 twenty eighteen. And again, as I mentioned earlier, I didn't know. 331 00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:06,920 I couldn't process anything. Cindy passed away two months later and I was lost. 332 00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:11,559 I was long. However, I started researching online like a lot of 333 00:27:11,559 --> 00:27:15,400 people would, as you should. What the hell did I see? Right? 334 00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:18,599 And so a couple of years later I started my channel. So throughout 335 00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:25,319 the last two years, most particularly, I've talked to a lot of researchers, 336 00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:30,160 the big name researchers down to Hey, the weekend Warrior. I don't 337 00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:33,640 discriminate if you've got a story, if you're a researcher, I want to 338 00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:38,400 hear it. But up until maybe six months ago, I started involved with 339 00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:47,799 these frequencies with energy vibrations, all these different patterns. The book that I 340 00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:52,480 read, Ron moorehead, The Quantum Bigfoot. I talked to Ron, he 341 00:27:52,559 --> 00:27:56,319 was on my show, and he said, Rob, twenty years ago, 342 00:27:56,599 --> 00:28:00,519 thirty years ago, if you would have come to me and said I think 343 00:28:00,519 --> 00:28:03,920 Bigfoot is paranormal or the woo, right, we all heard the term the 344 00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:07,920 wu, I'd have told you a young man turn around and go home. 345 00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:14,680 Now, as he talks to me and speaks with me, he says he's 346 00:28:14,759 --> 00:28:18,680 into these vibrations and a frequency, and he is a true believer today and 347 00:28:18,759 --> 00:28:26,400 he wasn't again twenty years ago. That these creatures with their with their mass. 348 00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:33,000 He believes they can turn their masks into energy, and they can transport 349 00:28:33,039 --> 00:28:37,519 wherever it's like, whether it be a portal or whether it just be from 350 00:28:38,519 --> 00:28:44,000 astro projecting, whatever, whatever floats your boat, but that they can do 351 00:28:44,039 --> 00:28:47,599 these things. And the more research that I've done and the more people I've 352 00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:51,440 spoken with, I do believe. And people will say, Rob, I 353 00:28:51,559 --> 00:28:55,640 just think that cryptos are fleshed and blood. I think that they are to 354 00:28:55,680 --> 00:29:00,880 an extent, but I do think this is talking weird the show. I 355 00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:04,680 think there are portals. I think there are other realms and realities, and 356 00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:10,960 I think that a lot of these things not necessarily mind counter, but I 357 00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:14,920 think that they do happen. I think it occurs, and I think that 358 00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:21,279 it's something we can't discard. I think it is something that exists. You 359 00:29:21,319 --> 00:29:26,519 know, it's not recognized by science, of course, being but the people 360 00:29:26,599 --> 00:29:30,839 that are doing the boots in the ground and the people are out there that 361 00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:34,119 are doing the research, they know. So that being said, yes, 362 00:29:34,279 --> 00:29:40,000 I agree, and I think that it comes in all shapes and sizes. 363 00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:44,480 I think it just it could be a natural product of the forest. But 364 00:29:44,559 --> 00:29:48,119 I also think that they come through and they can transport themselves that might sign 365 00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:52,559 UFO or alien which I believe in both of those as well. I've seen 366 00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:56,359 a UFO at least And and yeah, I think all these things scrypt is 367 00:29:56,480 --> 00:30:04,519 ufology Aaron normal. I think there are connected somehow or another, because there's 368 00:30:04,519 --> 00:30:11,319 too many stories that we hear about a UFOs citing the Bigfoot appears or dog 369 00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:15,200 ban or this or the other. So to me, there's something that connects. 370 00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:21,200 The question is what, and I'm yet to figure that out. I 371 00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:25,240 think we're very much in tune on the idea that somehow a lot of these 372 00:30:25,279 --> 00:30:30,599 things are interconnected, and I agree with a lot of the I don't necessarily 373 00:30:30,599 --> 00:30:34,480 agree with all of Ron Moorehead's theories, but I think he's experienced enough strange 374 00:30:34,519 --> 00:30:38,599 things to know that it's more complicated than just flesh and blood permanently living in 375 00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:42,839 the woods. I actually had him on one of the first episodes of Talking 376 00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:45,880 Weird we did when we jumped to the Untold Radio Networks. So yeah, 377 00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:48,519 people should read Quantum Bigfoot as well. They should read your book first, 378 00:30:48,559 --> 00:30:52,599 and they should go and read Quantum big because it's worth reading. We have 379 00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:57,319 a question from one of our most regular and loyal listeners and viewers, and 380 00:30:57,359 --> 00:31:00,200 she's an author her self. That's Nancy Come. She asks, Rob, 381 00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:03,720 do any of the stories mentioned mine speak? What telepathy with big Fource? 382 00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:08,359 Well, Nancy, the answer your question, Yes, there's at least in 383 00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:14,440 this book. You guys, there's forty five stories and they're Bigfoot, and 384 00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:18,480 they're dog Man, and I do have a moth Man's story in there. 385 00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:23,160 But yes, there's four or five stories that have telepathy or mind speak where 386 00:31:23,599 --> 00:31:32,440 a person did communicate with a cryptid And I do happen to agree that it 387 00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:37,359 does happen. You know, if you go back to First Nations people who 388 00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:42,960 I trust and I believe in the First Nations, certainly a lot of other 389 00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:48,079 things are more supernatural because they believe a lot of them, not all. 390 00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:59,039 Most of the people I've spoke with believe that the Sasquatch is a spiritual entity 391 00:31:59,119 --> 00:32:01,240 of the words, tector of the words, if you will, and they 392 00:32:01,319 --> 00:32:12,000 communicate to Bigfoot through mindspeed telepathy, and they come more into spirit form versus 393 00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:15,799 a flesh and blood form. Now I'm out one hundred percent, one hundred 394 00:32:15,839 --> 00:32:21,799 percent convinced in that. But with that being said, I think that does 395 00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:24,480 happen. I think these people tell the truth, but I also think there 396 00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:29,200 are the flesh and blood side to it. But they answer the question once 397 00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:32,920 again. In the book, there's four or five stories about mind speak with 398 00:32:34,039 --> 00:32:44,079 people communicating not only with Bigfoot but also the Dreaded dog Man. Well, 399 00:32:44,119 --> 00:32:46,680 I think that's a perfect segue into a dog Man story from the book. 400 00:32:46,759 --> 00:32:54,599 Rub Well, thanks for that, you know, well, in the I 401 00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:59,599 can't tell you the dog Man Island story because they would take thirty minutes. 402 00:33:00,039 --> 00:33:02,960 And it's my most popular video and it's in the book. I have dog 403 00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:07,599 Man Island one and two both in the book, and both you can find 404 00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:10,359 out my channel. But I will tell you this one. And I like 405 00:33:10,519 --> 00:33:20,400 telling this story because it has dog Man, it has corruption by of course 406 00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:29,480 our ABC agencies, and the state park. And this story took place in 407 00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:35,200 Indiana and in Indiana State Park. Okay. And I mentioned the name of 408 00:33:35,279 --> 00:33:37,960 the park in the book because the book, as I mentioned, is true 409 00:33:38,039 --> 00:33:43,400 Crypton Encounters. So if a state park is mentioned in the book, it 410 00:33:43,519 --> 00:33:47,559 is the state park. And I'm thinking the name of this state park is 411 00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:53,039 Oak Creek. Again, I'm trying to remember, but again it's in the 412 00:33:53,079 --> 00:34:00,599 book. This is fascinating. A husband, a wife and their son. 413 00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:07,599 They lived in South then Indiana, and they went which they'd done for like 414 00:34:07,159 --> 00:34:14,199 a decade. They traveled through this Oak Oak Park state park in Indiana that's 415 00:34:14,199 --> 00:34:17,599 about an hour and a half from the house. What they loved most about 416 00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:24,920 the state park is they had horses and you were allowed to trailer your horses 417 00:34:25,039 --> 00:34:30,679 because they had a lot of horse trails in which you could ride. So 418 00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:34,760 they got a they rented, well, they came up in an RV. 419 00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:39,440 You can rent cabins or you could RV and trailer your horses up. So 420 00:34:39,599 --> 00:34:44,840 they had a nice RV. I'm guessing the family was pretty well off. 421 00:34:45,039 --> 00:34:51,880 Beautiful RV trailer. They trailed the horses on a separate vehicle. They got 422 00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:57,480 up to the state park in Indiana Park the RV, set up the RV, 423 00:34:57,679 --> 00:35:00,480 they took out the horses, and they were ready to take a ride 424 00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:05,599 on a trail. Now I'm going to preface the story by saying that the 425 00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:12,920 son and the father we're amateur bigfoot researchers, and they knew about dog Man. 426 00:35:13,519 --> 00:35:20,760 And I'm just saying that because of what happens during the story. So 427 00:35:21,039 --> 00:35:23,519 the husband takes the wife. They get on one of the horses and the 428 00:35:23,599 --> 00:35:29,639 son gets on the other horse, and they go about the trail. During 429 00:35:29,679 --> 00:35:38,239 the trail, there was this ominous stench, and again they figured, well, 430 00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:42,719 you know it's it's horses are here. We know there's horsemen. Hear 431 00:35:43,199 --> 00:35:47,079 in fact, because are driving down the trailer. Excuse me, the trail. 432 00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:52,360 They saw a lot of horse droppings, so that's what it is. 433 00:35:53,440 --> 00:36:00,159 Maybe a quarter mile into the ride, they noticed other droppings or act which 434 00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:07,880 wasn't horse maneuver, but it was something else. So the husband tells, 435 00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:09,840 your wife, hey be and my son, we gotta get off, we 436 00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:13,480 gotta look at this. She's oh, my god, you guys are looking 437 00:36:13,519 --> 00:36:19,360 for bigfoot. Yeah, honey, this scat is unusual. So the hut, 438 00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:23,639 the father and son see the scat and it appeared to be like big, 439 00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:29,400 oversized wolf droppings, which they were familiar with. But the thing that 440 00:36:29,519 --> 00:36:34,639 was odd about these droppings is the fact that this part of Indiana, and 441 00:36:34,679 --> 00:36:37,960 I do believe, I don't even believe in the entire state of Indiana has 442 00:36:38,039 --> 00:36:45,719 wolves. So they're thinking maybe some oversized dogs or whatever. So whatever they 443 00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:50,760 noticed that thought it was unusual. They drive up the trail a little bit 444 00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:57,920 further and now they see oversized wolf tracks on the trail, oversized, and 445 00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:01,800 the story the man says, there like sick snap finishes long, four inches 446 00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:06,559 wide, very unusual, and again there should not be any wolves in this 447 00:37:06,679 --> 00:37:13,280 area anyway, and that's certainly not a dog print. They turn around the 448 00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:16,480 horses. It's getting later in the day and they they take the horses back 449 00:37:16,519 --> 00:37:23,000 to the trailer into the RV. Later on that night, they're sitting around 450 00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:32,440 a campfire and from from the woods they hear howls. Wouldn't sounds like to 451 00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:38,320 be wolves. Again, it's the husband, the wife and the sun. 452 00:37:39,199 --> 00:37:45,400 The father looks at the sun and they look at it at each other like 453 00:37:45,519 --> 00:37:52,039 those are not like wolves. This is different. The wife, the mom, 454 00:37:52,199 --> 00:37:55,079 she's getting a little scared. So they get up and they go back 455 00:37:55,679 --> 00:38:00,199 to the RV. Now, with this being said, though, when they 456 00:38:00,199 --> 00:38:04,719 go back to the RV, which was in back of them about thirty or 457 00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:09,840 forty yards, again they seen these same prints circling there that circled their RV 458 00:38:10,199 --> 00:38:15,880 which they saw on the trail again, oversized dog or wolf prints. They 459 00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:22,559 thought that was unusual. Now the husband is getting serious. He phones ahead 460 00:38:22,639 --> 00:38:28,480 to the administrative office of the state park and of course this is Dean is 461 00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:32,320 probably after midnight. There's no answer, nobody there, which is very interesting. 462 00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:37,679 I must I have to say, no answer. They decide to go 463 00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:43,880 to bed, and the father says to the mother, I'll get up in 464 00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:49,639 the morning and report everything that we've encountered. The prince sell the trail, 465 00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:52,760 the howls at night and these prints around the trail, because I want someone 466 00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:58,199 to investigate and look at these. Wife says fine. They go to bed. 467 00:39:00,039 --> 00:39:02,880 Well three o'clock in the morning. They hear these howls, but now 468 00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:08,360 it's a singular howl, and it's right by the trailer where the horses are, 469 00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:15,480 and the horses are trailered, probably thirty yards from the RV, and 470 00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:20,119 this they all hear it. They hear some commotions going on with the horses, 471 00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:27,440 and they hear these growls. The husband grabs a shotgun, which he 472 00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:32,440 kid firearms were not allowed here, but he hit it in this big RV. 473 00:39:34,039 --> 00:39:36,360 I think it was like a thirty two foot r V is huge, 474 00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:43,880 according to the to the storyteller went out with his son and they noticed at 475 00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:49,199 the back of the trailer the back hinges and the door of the back of 476 00:39:49,199 --> 00:39:53,800 the trailer was ripped off, and they was ripped off, exposing the horses 477 00:39:55,000 --> 00:40:01,159 they're in this thirty yards away. They proceed towards the trailer and they see 478 00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:07,239 this bipedal figure run out, jump out of the back of the trailer. 479 00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:10,639 Again. They can't make out what it is, but it's something big. 480 00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:15,159 It's bipedal, and it turns around it runs back into the woods. The 481 00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:21,159 father says, I should not have done this, but he took a shotgun. 482 00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:25,480 He fired at this going into the wood line goes rob bad moving my 483 00:40:25,599 --> 00:40:30,079 part. My adrenaline was pumping. It could have been a human being as 484 00:40:30,079 --> 00:40:36,599 far as I know. So again I said, well then I'm reading it 485 00:40:36,639 --> 00:40:42,199 and I'm like okay. Gets into the trailer, the one horse inside. 486 00:40:42,199 --> 00:40:47,960 They had two horses in the trailer. The one horse had was was attacked 487 00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:55,639 apparently because on the left lower quarter of the horse were three talent like claw 488 00:40:55,719 --> 00:41:00,840 marks that were gouged out of his hind quarters and he was leading. Now, 489 00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:05,800 he says, the horse wasn't bleeding profusely, it didn't hit the majority. 490 00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:08,800 He sensed that the horse was not in danger, but he could not 491 00:41:09,119 --> 00:41:15,519 tend to it and help it because he was very scared as well as the 492 00:41:15,559 --> 00:41:20,079 other horse. They're still kind of bucking around. So the man gets on 493 00:41:20,199 --> 00:41:25,920 his phone cell phone again, tries to call the administrative office, and you 494 00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:30,760 know, he did get a hold of somebody said get your asses down here. 495 00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:32,639 I got you got There's some things I have to tell you people. 496 00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:44,199 So in less than five minutes, a park administrator shows up, an Indiana 497 00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:51,599 State Park shareff shows up, and also a third person who did not say 498 00:41:51,639 --> 00:41:57,280 who he was, but he was dressed in a suit. So he was 499 00:41:57,320 --> 00:42:01,519 seeing an ABC agency dr and even DNR. You know what they were they 500 00:42:01,519 --> 00:42:07,760 were They were camel outfit. I mean they were fatigues or for street clothes. 501 00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:14,559 So I thought that was peculiar. So they're telling the story what happened. 502 00:42:15,119 --> 00:42:22,239 So if the sun just blurts out dog man. These three officials, 503 00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:31,480 the state park administrator, the sheriff and this other third wheel gathered the son 504 00:42:31,599 --> 00:42:38,519 the father together and they say, almost in unison, please do not mention 505 00:42:38,599 --> 00:42:47,679 the word dog man in regards to this park. The father is now thinking, 506 00:42:47,719 --> 00:42:52,079 and I said, so is the son. What's going on here? 507 00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:57,360 And they said, well, why is that. Listen, we're not going 508 00:42:57,400 --> 00:43:00,519 to get into it. Do not do it. In fact, put on 509 00:43:00,519 --> 00:43:06,119 social media. Don't tell anybody. So here and then they and then the 510 00:43:06,159 --> 00:43:09,039 administrative the parks as well, here's what we'll do for you. I know, 511 00:43:09,119 --> 00:43:13,800 as your horse was injured, We'll pay for any expenses for medical care 512 00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:16,960 for your horse. We're gonna wave all your lot fees. We're in a 513 00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:21,639 wave of the entire weekend. As far as I'm concerned, you guys don't 514 00:43:21,639 --> 00:43:25,280 owe us any money. Whatever you've paid will refund, but please do not 515 00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:35,920 make mention of this publicly. Okay, you know. The dad's like whatever, 516 00:43:36,119 --> 00:43:38,719 Okay, they tell the story to the wife. Well, you know, 517 00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:45,360 the next morning they just left. They get home to South Bend, 518 00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:52,239 Indiana again about an hour and a half's drive anunder forty eight hours to get 519 00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:59,559 a rap at the door there now of their home. Standing on their porch 520 00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:07,159 is the administrator to it once again, the state park in Indiana, the 521 00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:17,800 sheriff, and another again dressed in a suit, and governmental representative again, 522 00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:23,559 well, you do apologize for your experience. Have you told anybody this? 523 00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:28,840 No, we haven't. We're just trying to dude. It's not been two 524 00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:31,880 days. You're ready at my door. And the man, rightfully so, 525 00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:42,760 is very perturbed by this. Why are you guys here? They gave him 526 00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:47,800 ten thousand dollars dean to make sure that he did not make mention of this 527 00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:52,559 in cash, good grave, and I need to see a dog man cash 528 00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:59,760 on that man. Yeah you know. Yeah, Well it's funny because the 529 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:05,119 commence I get they only got ten grand with making a joke about it, 530 00:45:05,119 --> 00:45:08,880 and I thought ten grand. But here's the thing, though, they weren't 531 00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:14,719 nice about giving them the ten grand. In fact, when they left, 532 00:45:15,119 --> 00:45:20,519 they left to this family the distinct feeling that if word did get out, 533 00:45:21,519 --> 00:45:27,840 and if you report this about this state park in Indiana, we will make 534 00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:32,039 sure. They didn't saying these words, but they made they gave them the 535 00:45:32,119 --> 00:45:37,880 feeling that their lives would be in danger. They felt threatened by these folks. 536 00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:42,400 Sure, they gave them ten grand hush money, but also behind this, 537 00:45:42,599 --> 00:45:47,360 they weren't happy. They weren't smiling. They were of the opinion that 538 00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:52,920 look, yeah, better keep your mouth shut or something might happen to you. 539 00:45:53,639 --> 00:45:58,920 So just quickly, was there impression that they wanted them to be quiet 540 00:45:59,039 --> 00:46:01,679 because they didn't want to scare people out of India and a state parks of 541 00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:05,880 because they have a cover up about dog men on a broad at a level 542 00:46:06,199 --> 00:46:09,559 or well he suggested, And I gotta tell you something. Yes, they 543 00:46:10,079 --> 00:46:14,679 didn't want you know, they didn't want bad publicity because who's going to go 544 00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:17,559 there. But I have to tell you this, and this is so cool 545 00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:24,199 about this story, which really gives me that this is a true story. 546 00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:28,599 Yeah, my book's true Cryptan encounters, and I believe they're all to be 547 00:46:28,639 --> 00:46:34,679 true. But I gotta tell you. When I published the book August first, 548 00:46:35,079 --> 00:46:37,519 a lot of people have bought in it and I got my email. 549 00:46:37,719 --> 00:46:39,920 By the way, it's in the book. Do you know, Dean, 550 00:46:40,039 --> 00:46:45,000 that I got an email from a gentleman and this is a true, honestly 551 00:46:45,079 --> 00:46:52,480 got story. They came across that story in my book, Rob. This 552 00:46:52,559 --> 00:46:57,840 is not the first time I've heard a story similar. I've seen this story 553 00:46:57,920 --> 00:47:04,400 on another podcast, and what you say would happen that family happened to another 554 00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:08,199 family in that state park. This is like the third time I've heard about 555 00:47:08,280 --> 00:47:14,679 this exact state park paying off people, the people at a dog man encounter, 556 00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:17,679 And this is the third story this man email to me. I mean 557 00:47:17,719 --> 00:47:21,320 he went out of his way. Who does that, Dean? So that's 558 00:47:21,440 --> 00:47:25,840 that corroborates his entire story, because a stranger who bought the book or read 559 00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:34,199 that story sent me an email corroborating that he's heard that story not once, 560 00:47:34,239 --> 00:47:40,840 but twice now the third time. So for me, I know that's going 561 00:47:40,920 --> 00:47:45,239 on, and I know that people are getting paid hush money, and I 562 00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:52,079 know they're not nice about it. And that's the thing. Do we really 563 00:47:52,119 --> 00:47:55,559 have these creatures? I think they exist. I do. Do you really 564 00:47:55,559 --> 00:48:00,679 feed. These state parks are holding back and don't want you type because they 565 00:48:00,679 --> 00:48:07,320 don't want to have lose people coming through and camping their parks. My answered 566 00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:14,840 you that question is absolutely it's interesting. We certainly know in Wisconsin that the 567 00:48:14,960 --> 00:48:20,920 DNA have been very reluctant to admit in the Driftless area sightings about black panthers. 568 00:48:20,599 --> 00:48:24,960 The the late great Linda god Free made a film called Return to WorldCat 569 00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:29,159 Mountain about that area, and we did the world premiere at a festival they 570 00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:31,800 run at Midwest weed Fest. And not only did we screen the film Linda 571 00:48:31,800 --> 00:48:36,440 wist to present, but multiple witnesses from that film came in talking about the 572 00:48:36,519 --> 00:48:39,639 DNA not wanting to acknowledge it. Now, it wasn't quite that as aggressive, 573 00:48:40,119 --> 00:48:43,639 you know, a cover up, but they certainly were reluctant to admit 574 00:48:43,679 --> 00:48:47,800 the possibility of a cryptotype creature in that area, and I certainly found everybody's 575 00:48:47,800 --> 00:48:51,559 testimony about that convincing. I do have a question for you, though, 576 00:48:51,599 --> 00:48:54,000 from a fellow is at Michigan Night. What's somebody from Michigan? What do 577 00:48:54,039 --> 00:49:00,400 you call you guys Michigan or Michigan Nights, Michigander Michigander. There you go. 578 00:49:00,199 --> 00:49:06,119 Actually, Horace Smith is a professor emeritus of astronomy and Physics of Michigan 579 00:49:06,159 --> 00:49:08,199 State University, and he was on the show last week with Eddie Gaumont. 580 00:49:08,239 --> 00:49:12,840 They've just published a book as well, called When the Stars Are Write HP 581 00:49:12,960 --> 00:49:16,800 Lovecraft and Astronomy, and he asks in Michigan, some areas where Bigfoot is 582 00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:21,280 reported were clear cut in logging days. Does that mean that a flesh and 583 00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:25,239 blood Bigfoot must be able to migrate from place to place to survive as bears 584 00:49:25,320 --> 00:49:30,760 might. That's a great question. Again, I've been doing studying this for 585 00:49:30,840 --> 00:49:37,880 five years. In the opinions of people I've spoke with the varies. Do 586 00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:44,639 I think they migrate. I don't think they do personally. I think though 587 00:49:44,679 --> 00:49:49,840 that now you talk about migration going from state to state, I think, 588 00:49:49,960 --> 00:49:53,639 yeah, like the ones there are in Michigan, Wisconsin, Illinois, I 589 00:49:53,679 --> 00:49:58,440 think that they stay in their states. But I do think, and I 590 00:49:58,519 --> 00:50:05,480 know this in the opperpendinsul that they might move ten twenty miles from maybe their 591 00:50:05,519 --> 00:50:09,320 clan was. I think that I've heard stories about people were if they've started 592 00:50:09,320 --> 00:50:15,119 a family in a spot in a location, let's just say Michigan in the 593 00:50:15,280 --> 00:50:20,119 up. I think that they raise their young, But then I think when 594 00:50:20,119 --> 00:50:23,920 they're raised or they're in juveniles, I think they do move and migrate. 595 00:50:24,239 --> 00:50:28,519 So I guess in a sense they migrate. I don't think it's like from 596 00:50:28,559 --> 00:50:34,119 state to state to state, because I think my friend texts he's been researching 597 00:50:34,159 --> 00:50:39,320 Bigfoot dog man paranormal for ten years where he in Brown Springs, and it's 598 00:50:39,360 --> 00:50:45,559 the same population of these things over there. But sometimes you see him, 599 00:50:45,679 --> 00:50:50,559 sometimes you don't, and sometimes you might seem not see them for two or 600 00:50:50,599 --> 00:50:52,199 three years, with all of sudden they're there. So as I mean, 601 00:50:52,960 --> 00:50:58,840 I think they move about the state and where if there's food, they're going 602 00:50:58,920 --> 00:51:04,079 to stay. Certainly in the state Northern Michigan and the Upper Peninsula, we 603 00:51:04,159 --> 00:51:07,400 got all the water, we got all the vast forests. We've got a 604 00:51:07,440 --> 00:51:13,039 million a billion deer roaming here. So I don't think. I think they 605 00:51:13,039 --> 00:51:15,480 only migrate when the food runs out, And really, where does food ever 606 00:51:15,559 --> 00:51:22,199 run out? In my opinion, in the forest. We have a comment 607 00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:28,239 from another Michiganda or Michiganda. How do you pronounce that? Rob Michiganda Michigander 608 00:51:28,599 --> 00:51:34,400 Michiganda Martin Akatz, who's actually the titular character in the documentary big Foot in 609 00:51:34,480 --> 00:51:37,559 Marty, he's the poet laureate of the up from your state, and he's 610 00:51:37,599 --> 00:51:43,880 in the documentary where it's not a simple crypto documentary. It's about his him 611 00:51:43,880 --> 00:51:47,239 writing big Foot poetry, but it also speaks to various Bigfoot investigators. You 612 00:51:47,239 --> 00:51:52,280 would really dig that movie. You should probably get a hold of guests for 613 00:51:52,320 --> 00:51:55,880 your show. Actually, yeah, may Marty Martin for anybody out there in 614 00:51:57,079 --> 00:52:00,280 chat. I know we're promoting the book of my YouTube channel and on my 615 00:52:00,360 --> 00:52:05,760 YouTube channel you can find my email and my email is beyond bmri a gmail 616 00:52:05,840 --> 00:52:08,920 dot com. So yeah, any of you folks are Michigan or anybody interested, 617 00:52:09,000 --> 00:52:15,760 you can contact me via that and on my social media Facebook, all 618 00:52:15,800 --> 00:52:20,840 that stuff. So I'd love to talk to anybody in chat or listening later 619 00:52:21,119 --> 00:52:24,719 from Michigan or it don't matter if you're from Texas, Oklahoma, Indiana. 620 00:52:24,840 --> 00:52:28,880 Yeah, I get a hold of me because I love to hear your stories 621 00:52:28,920 --> 00:52:32,800 and give and listen to what you have to say. So yeah, absolutely, 622 00:52:34,840 --> 00:52:37,480 a few people have been talking in the chat since you mentioned the type 623 00:52:37,480 --> 00:52:40,320 of cover up and then it's government parks, and Emily is one of them, 624 00:52:40,320 --> 00:52:45,039 saying, it's interesting how many sightings happen in government owned parks. And 625 00:52:45,079 --> 00:52:47,920 I think earlier she was suggesting that it might al must be some type of 626 00:52:50,519 --> 00:52:54,559 government silp or government experiment going on in these areas. Emily said that, 627 00:52:57,719 --> 00:53:01,000 yeah, well, well whoever, Yeah, those are great, But thank 628 00:53:01,079 --> 00:53:04,719 Samily, Emily. I gotta get a hold of you. I've seen some 629 00:53:04,760 --> 00:53:07,599 of your comments. You seem I like you. You'd like a show too, 630 00:53:07,679 --> 00:53:09,800 A show's great. Yeah, yeah, we all get together, Emily 631 00:53:09,840 --> 00:53:14,679 and Shock. I will say this, and this is gonna be another hour 632 00:53:14,800 --> 00:53:16,639 show. I know we have an hour. But there's another one of my 633 00:53:16,719 --> 00:53:23,159 theories, especially with the government and maybe an ABC agency. Again. I 634 00:53:23,199 --> 00:53:29,519 just throwed that out there because everyone says ABC. But let's face it, 635 00:53:30,119 --> 00:53:35,760 our government, I think they care. I think that they genetically have experimented 636 00:53:35,800 --> 00:53:39,000 with creating creatures. I think they've released them in the forest, and I 637 00:53:39,039 --> 00:53:43,039 think they cover it up. You know, you always hear about the four 638 00:53:43,199 --> 00:53:47,159 one one the missing people. Well, my opinion is this. I think 639 00:53:47,199 --> 00:53:52,320 it's natural. I think natural animals get some of these people. I think 640 00:53:52,360 --> 00:53:58,480 some of these people as humans, and I think that there are cryptids that 641 00:53:58,599 --> 00:54:01,760 are involved, and there's probably five other things I can mention, but I 642 00:54:01,800 --> 00:54:08,719 do think it's interesting. There always people to talk about governmental bioengineered creatures. 643 00:54:08,840 --> 00:54:12,079 I think they exist. I think we do it, and I think that 644 00:54:12,840 --> 00:54:15,960 they cover a lot of this up in a back pedal, right, and 645 00:54:16,000 --> 00:54:22,679 they go to look for these things themselves, and they feel that they don't 646 00:54:22,679 --> 00:54:29,440 want this information release because frankly, our government is probably responsible for a percentage 647 00:54:29,440 --> 00:54:35,599 of the four one one I do. I believe that month Man forty six 648 00:54:35,719 --> 00:54:38,239 checkingly said, w w A w C w n W. I've been watching 649 00:54:38,239 --> 00:54:43,480 a little wrestling documentary is funnily enough lately, so you're shooting into my wavelength. 650 00:54:44,000 --> 00:54:46,639 Monthman forty six, Oh, I have a great moth Man story too. 651 00:54:46,679 --> 00:54:49,599 We don't have time for you to think, because I do have a 652 00:54:49,599 --> 00:54:52,840 cool Mothman story. Would you want would you want to? Do you want 653 00:54:52,840 --> 00:54:53,840 to do it? I'll let you do. Let's say one more story. 654 00:54:53,840 --> 00:54:55,400 Do you want to give me a moth Man story? Let's do it? 655 00:54:55,400 --> 00:54:58,480 And do you give me one minute? Cause I've let my dog out and 656 00:54:58,639 --> 00:55:00,599 I'd be glad to tell it. Give me about sixty sackers. Okay, 657 00:55:00,840 --> 00:55:02,880 I'll just have to chat to people here in the chat you go in, 658 00:55:04,360 --> 00:55:08,039 you going, I mean, I'm big lacking, like should have gap earlier. 659 00:55:08,079 --> 00:55:10,519 I'll be back in a second. I'd love to do it, sure. 660 00:55:12,760 --> 00:55:16,039 And I was always saying I've I've been a big fan of wrestling documentaries 661 00:55:16,320 --> 00:55:22,079 because I'm knee deep in shooting my own documentary and editing my own documentary called 662 00:55:22,119 --> 00:55:25,639 The Man Who Invented Flying Sources, which is about Raymond Palmer, who was 663 00:55:25,679 --> 00:55:31,320 an editor of Amazing Stories and in the mid nineteen forties he ran a series 664 00:55:31,440 --> 00:55:37,920 of stories from a gentleman called Richard Shaver who claimed to be in contact with 665 00:55:38,079 --> 00:55:43,760 civilizations underneath this Earth called the Darrow, who were an evil civilization, the 666 00:55:43,840 --> 00:55:47,239 terror who were a friendly a civilization, and they were leftovers from an ancient 667 00:55:47,800 --> 00:55:52,880 and to alluvial race that had once lived on the planet Earth and had fled 668 00:55:52,920 --> 00:55:57,519 when the radiation from the sun got too much. But much of this predates 669 00:55:57,519 --> 00:56:04,079 the type of things we think about flying sources today. The idea that there 670 00:56:04,119 --> 00:56:07,880 are ancient civilizations, that people get abducted, that they have mind control, 671 00:56:08,440 --> 00:56:12,840 elements to the tales a lot of this comes straight out of the Shave of 672 00:56:12,920 --> 00:56:17,679 Mystery. And then Raymond Palmer went on to popularize much of flying Sauce a 673 00:56:17,719 --> 00:56:22,360 little. But now we have we have BM back, So thank you, 674 00:56:22,480 --> 00:56:24,480 Rob, I don't have to keep bubbling about my documentary. Now both men's 675 00:56:24,519 --> 00:56:28,840 story. Well, you know, you know, self promotion is always good. 676 00:56:28,880 --> 00:56:31,119 Hey, listen. I I used to feel like people you shouldn't promote 677 00:56:31,159 --> 00:56:36,159 yourself, but you know what, if you do something worthwhile, promote yourself. 678 00:56:36,199 --> 00:56:39,559 And today I'm a firm believer in that. Plus I'm a salesmansho I 679 00:56:39,760 --> 00:56:44,000 sold I worked in the bar industry for thirteen years as a bar owner. 680 00:56:44,239 --> 00:56:47,239 You always got to sell that shot with that beer. But you know, 681 00:56:49,639 --> 00:56:52,800 the this is a moth and again, you guys, this story it's like 682 00:56:52,880 --> 00:56:58,440 three pages long in the book. What's cool about the book They are about 683 00:56:58,599 --> 00:57:02,280 five hundred two one thousand words as a piece of three or four pages, 684 00:57:02,480 --> 00:57:07,519 and so they're very quick reading, very entertaining, and you can go all 685 00:57:07,519 --> 00:57:12,599 over the book to find whatever meets your fancy. But again, I'm doing 686 00:57:12,599 --> 00:57:15,039 this from memory, so you're not getting all the descriptive detail. But this 687 00:57:15,119 --> 00:57:23,440 moth fans story was pretty cool, and it's called Crypted flying over Lake Michigan, 688 00:57:24,960 --> 00:57:29,159 and it's pretty cool. So the story goes on, and I know 689 00:57:29,199 --> 00:57:31,519 we have a lot of times, so I'll give the reader's digest version. 690 00:57:34,280 --> 00:57:37,800 So a couple they wake up in the morning. They're doing a Fourth of 691 00:57:37,920 --> 00:57:43,639 July party in Chicago. They have a big thirty two thirty three foot sea 692 00:57:43,760 --> 00:57:47,840 ray boat and they proceed and it's in front of their house, their wealthy 693 00:57:47,920 --> 00:57:52,400 couple, and they get out. They proceed down Lake Michigan towards Chicago. 694 00:57:53,840 --> 00:57:58,440 And I do want to make mentions because I actually marked this in a book 695 00:57:58,480 --> 00:58:02,320 the name of the bridge. They come across the Desable Bridge downtown Chicago. 696 00:58:02,920 --> 00:58:07,920 So they actually take their boat and they reached to this location in downtown Chicago 697 00:58:08,360 --> 00:58:15,599 on the water. So as they're again, they're preparing all their orderers. 698 00:58:15,679 --> 00:58:20,800 They're getting this big party for it's for Fourth July weekend. And what they 699 00:58:20,800 --> 00:58:24,239 were going to do is they were going to pick up some friends in downtown 700 00:58:24,440 --> 00:58:30,920 Chicago. I guess there was a place where they could park or dock the 701 00:58:30,960 --> 00:58:32,599 boat and pick up their friends. And they were going to go out into 702 00:58:32,639 --> 00:58:39,159 the bay and wash the fireworks so it just so happens this disabled bridge was 703 00:58:39,199 --> 00:58:45,000 a bridge that they had to go underneath to pick up their friends. And 704 00:58:45,119 --> 00:58:52,039 also along this bridge there's again it's it's like by downtown and there's like an 705 00:58:52,079 --> 00:59:01,920 interstate that's you know, zooming up and down the waterways up top. So 706 00:59:02,039 --> 00:59:05,679 again the story is a lot longer than what I'm going to tell you, 707 00:59:05,719 --> 00:59:08,320 guys, if I'm going to get to the meat and potatoes. They get 708 00:59:08,320 --> 00:59:14,119 to the disable bridge and they're entering it now. They say, it's maybe 709 00:59:14,239 --> 00:59:20,320 about ten thirty in the morning, light boat traffic, a lot of boats 710 00:59:20,360 --> 00:59:25,079 already, we're out in the bay setting up for the activities. You know, 711 00:59:25,239 --> 00:59:29,840 people that are voters, Doctor Dean, ten o'clock in the morning for 712 00:59:29,920 --> 00:59:34,320 something that happened at midnight. Ask that unusual. Voters seem to like to 713 00:59:35,119 --> 00:59:37,239 live it up, especially during the three months when you have the season. 714 00:59:37,840 --> 00:59:45,400 So they're already preparing. So they they're getting to the bridge. They get 715 00:59:45,440 --> 00:59:52,199 to this bridge, and underneath this bridge, the man and the woman they've 716 00:59:52,519 --> 00:59:58,639 had this ominous feeling. And the bridge is not as little short thirty foot 717 00:59:58,679 --> 01:00:04,880 bridge just you gotta try novel some distance maybe one hundred and twenty feet So 718 01:00:04,920 --> 01:00:08,159 as they're getting under the bridge. Now at the end of this bridge, 719 01:00:08,559 --> 01:00:14,400 it led up to the opened up to the downtown area, and up to 720 01:00:14,480 --> 01:00:20,880 the right was like the freeway was running across. So it's a very populated 721 01:00:20,920 --> 01:00:24,360 area. Unlike the stories that we hear about it's always in the woods, 722 01:00:25,280 --> 01:00:32,719 there's always nobody around. This isn't a populace. They're midway through the underneath 723 01:00:32,760 --> 01:00:38,559 the bridge and all of a sudden, something at the end of the bridge 724 01:00:39,199 --> 01:00:44,519 drops down, and as the man explains, it was a human, annoyed 725 01:00:44,599 --> 01:00:47,960 looking thing, but it had big wings. And when he sees this and 726 01:00:49,000 --> 01:00:51,360 the wife sees it, they said, man, that's a hell of a 727 01:00:51,360 --> 01:00:57,440 big bat. And as they're getting closer, he realizes, honey, this 728 01:00:57,519 --> 01:01:05,159 is not a bat. This the bridge is like twenty feet wide, thirty 729 01:01:05,159 --> 01:01:08,880 feet wide, and this is encompassing a lot of the bridge. It's just 730 01:01:09,039 --> 01:01:14,840 and it's and it's it's it's stopping the light from refracting. It's underneath the 731 01:01:14,880 --> 01:01:19,679 bridge. And she as they're getting closer and closer, they says, oh 732 01:01:19,719 --> 01:01:23,519 my gosh, there's no bad What is that. They turn around and it's 733 01:01:23,519 --> 01:01:28,320 a dark figure. It's a dark figure, humanoid body with wings like a 734 01:01:28,400 --> 01:01:32,440 bat wings. The guy turns around his boat and the yeah, he says, 735 01:01:32,480 --> 01:01:37,320 I got a big boats, you know, I gotta take my time 736 01:01:37,360 --> 01:01:40,719 and turning it around. So he proceeds to get the hell out of there. 737 01:01:42,639 --> 01:01:49,000 So he's going out underneath towards the open water. And now guess what 738 01:01:49,119 --> 01:01:54,320 happens. That figure, that bad, that creature, that moth band whatever 739 01:01:54,360 --> 01:02:00,639 it is, now appears at the other end blocking the exit. Jeez. 740 01:02:00,480 --> 01:02:07,079 And now these people are freaking out. They cannot They're they're like, my 741 01:02:07,480 --> 01:02:13,119 what is going on? And they're literally scared man, and they're thinking that 742 01:02:13,360 --> 01:02:19,639 their life's in dangers. Something bad is going to happen. Yeah. He 743 01:02:19,800 --> 01:02:23,880 slows up his boat, which is not going fast anyway underneath the bridge, 744 01:02:23,920 --> 01:02:29,880 you're only going two miles an hour anyway, slows it down, turns around 745 01:02:29,920 --> 01:02:37,559 this thirty two thirty five foot vessel and has now back towards you know, 746 01:02:37,679 --> 01:02:44,519 the city. And he guess what happens the third time this figure again drops. 747 01:02:44,599 --> 01:02:49,480 It drops in front of them. They're both petrified. He now, 748 01:02:49,599 --> 01:02:52,320 this man isn't panic, does not know what to do. So what he 749 01:02:52,400 --> 01:02:57,960 does is this, and he says in the story, and I do have 750 01:02:58,000 --> 01:03:05,000 to say this. He mentioned in the story he started drinking about eleven o'clock 751 01:03:06,320 --> 01:03:08,840 and it's about one o'clock in the afternoon. So how drunk can you get 752 01:03:08,880 --> 01:03:13,599 in two hours? I don't know. The man couldn't tell you, so 753 01:03:15,280 --> 01:03:19,440 I'd imagine, you know, you could probably went out pretty quickly. Bus 754 01:03:19,480 --> 01:03:22,280 he says, Rob, I don't know the adrenaline. And he says, 755 01:03:22,280 --> 01:03:25,679 I opened up my boat and I made it go faster. He goes because 756 01:03:27,119 --> 01:03:30,840 because to him, in his mind, this thing was not going to let 757 01:03:30,920 --> 01:03:35,840 him escape from the tunnel or from it seemed like a tunnel, but it 758 01:03:35,880 --> 01:03:37,719 was kind of a tunnel with the bridge, so there's walls on both sides. 759 01:03:38,679 --> 01:03:42,639 So he opens up the throw and he guns it at this thing, 760 01:03:44,079 --> 01:03:51,559 and he's praying for his life that he's just praying. He goes, he's 761 01:03:51,599 --> 01:03:55,800 about five feet from hitting this thing. Then all of a sudden, it 762 01:03:55,960 --> 01:04:01,840 dematerializes it into fog and discip pates. But now you have to remember this, 763 01:04:03,199 --> 01:04:06,840 he's driving this boat at a high rate of speed, which he had 764 01:04:06,880 --> 01:04:12,679 no business doing. He lost control of his boat. He groomed to the 765 01:04:12,840 --> 01:04:20,599 right, and he hit this hill, and he yes, and he goes 766 01:04:20,719 --> 01:04:26,760 up the hill and he lands in the middle of the freeway, s gets 767 01:04:26,800 --> 01:04:30,920 across the freeway. Right, It's like something out of a James Bond movie. 768 01:04:30,119 --> 01:04:33,079 Yeah, no, but no, this was not James Bond. His 769 01:04:33,159 --> 01:04:39,840 wife broke he broke a leg, She got thrown in the boat. He 770 01:04:39,880 --> 01:04:44,719 says, he was he hit his head, he was unconscious. He woke 771 01:04:44,840 --> 01:04:50,639 up in his Chicagoland hospital and when he woke up, his hand his wrists 772 01:04:51,480 --> 01:05:00,639 handcuffs on and he was shackled to the bed in the hospital and police were 773 01:05:00,639 --> 01:05:05,679 there. He got arrested for drunk driving of a boat, reckless endangerment, 774 01:05:06,599 --> 01:05:13,639 and a couple other charges. So he says, now he starts telling this 775 01:05:13,960 --> 01:05:18,519 story that was the moth Man. Officers, this story is not funny. 776 01:05:18,599 --> 01:05:23,320 I mean, I'm sure that this had I'm sure this was not a funny 777 01:05:23,519 --> 01:05:27,440 story, but it is funny to un man. Now you're telling us that. 778 01:05:27,719 --> 01:05:30,599 Yeah, and he said this he was robbed. Dude. I brought 779 01:05:30,679 --> 01:05:33,960 up that moth Man story about what I saw, and they looked at me 780 01:05:34,079 --> 01:05:39,719 while you were like two point two, you're a loaded dude. You're going 781 01:05:39,760 --> 01:05:45,320 to jail. You're both sup pounded happy for the July and that was a 782 01:05:45,480 --> 01:05:50,519 story and I want people should buy the book just to have that story that 783 01:05:50,880 --> 01:05:56,519 you oh my god. Yeah, so yeah, I mean, is it 784 01:05:56,760 --> 01:06:00,519 again? I marked the book from the people think I got the are people 785 01:06:00,559 --> 01:06:05,400 true stories? You know? Take it for wes Worth is very good books. 786 01:06:05,440 --> 01:06:10,119 They're taking a lot of great data. There's a lot of great stories 787 01:06:10,159 --> 01:06:14,480 in the book, and there's some boring ones. There's like Bigfoot across See. 788 01:06:14,519 --> 01:06:16,280 I'm the type of guy if you tell me a story, Dean, 789 01:06:17,000 --> 01:06:20,400 I'm not going to dismiss it. And there are ones that are simply Bigfoot 790 01:06:20,480 --> 01:06:26,119 crossing the road, looked at me, I got scared and it vanished across 791 01:06:26,159 --> 01:06:29,559 the road. There are stories like getting like that in there. As I 792 01:06:29,599 --> 01:06:32,599 mentioned early in the show, there are scary ones. There are insightful ones. 793 01:06:32,639 --> 01:06:35,960 There's happy ones. But the great thing about the book is it does 794 01:06:36,079 --> 01:06:42,119 make you think. And if your intercrypt is and weirdness like we are here, 795 01:06:43,159 --> 01:06:45,880 you'll really enjoy the book. I mean, I've gotten the reviews are 796 01:06:45,880 --> 01:06:49,800 coming in. It's got a five star rating on Amazon. Now I'm getting 797 01:06:49,840 --> 01:06:56,199 good reviews. I'm tooting my own horn I'm really surprised that the success has 798 01:06:56,239 --> 01:07:00,000 had so far, and I hope that it continues on. And I really 799 01:07:00,119 --> 01:07:04,760 appreciate the fact that he had me out today. Man, it's always a 800 01:07:04,760 --> 01:07:09,719 great joy talking to you. Rob. Now tell people I've put a link 801 01:07:09,800 --> 01:07:13,480 to the Amazon page in the show notes. So anybody watching this with on 802 01:07:13,559 --> 01:07:17,039 YouTube or Facebook or on various podcast platforms that they're listening to it afterwards should 803 01:07:17,039 --> 01:07:19,480 be able to go into the show notes and just find that address and go 804 01:07:19,599 --> 01:07:23,639 to it. But for somebody just listening who wants to type something in it, 805 01:07:23,800 --> 01:07:26,960 what's the best way for them to find your True Crypto Encounters. Yeah, 806 01:07:27,000 --> 01:07:30,400 well, if if you are going up the links, if most everyone 807 01:07:30,000 --> 01:07:36,760 everybody has the Amazon, you just go into Amazon straight and tape Bigfoot Michigan 808 01:07:36,880 --> 01:07:42,320 Rab Presents True crypt Encounter, TrueCrypt Encounters Book one. I think if you 809 01:07:42,440 --> 01:07:45,320 just tape them, big Foot Michigan Rabbit will pull up. To be honest, 810 01:07:45,960 --> 01:07:48,000 But if you want to take the title of the book big Foot Michigan 811 01:07:48,039 --> 01:07:53,639 Representscounters blah blah blah, I think big Foot Mission Raps should do it. 812 01:07:53,760 --> 01:07:56,440 I tried that the other day and I think it pulls up that way, 813 01:07:56,679 --> 01:08:00,239 and of course you said you have the link, and also for everybody out 814 01:08:00,239 --> 01:08:03,039 there, I really I would appreciate if you check out the book, but 815 01:08:03,159 --> 01:08:06,840 also my YouTube channel. I always have to tell out the because I'm very 816 01:08:06,840 --> 01:08:14,320 proud of that. And my YouTube channel is Bigfoot Mischian Rob type that on 817 01:08:14,360 --> 01:08:18,039 YouTube subscribe if you would, and the link to my book is also in 818 01:08:18,159 --> 01:08:23,960 my YouTube page where you can just click on the link, and on my 819 01:08:24,079 --> 01:08:30,279 YouTube channel. I do live shows with the researchers and experiencers Tuesdays at nine 820 01:08:30,319 --> 01:08:35,279 and these and Thursdays at one pm and ees my show with Tuesdays with tax 821 01:08:35,600 --> 01:08:43,560 and in my Thursday is with text and Thursdays with brand Chris too I'm sorry 822 01:08:43,720 --> 01:08:45,880 from the Blonds of the Boist Paranoal podcast. And then of course I do 823 01:08:46,039 --> 01:08:50,479 videos about encounter stories, so it's well worth checking out. Yeah, people 824 01:08:50,520 --> 01:08:55,920 should definitely go on subscribe your YouTube channel, and again that's also in the 825 01:08:55,960 --> 01:08:59,319 show notes for somebody who wants to go and get the interest from the Rob. 826 01:08:59,359 --> 01:09:01,560 Just fantastic to having you back on the show. Let's get you back 827 01:09:01,600 --> 01:09:05,119 again sometime soon. We'll chat, I'm sure I'll fear anyway, But until 828 01:09:05,119 --> 01:09:10,000 I talk to you properly again until I talk to everybody else out there. 829 01:09:10,800 --> 01:09:14,359 Keep it weird, Oh yeah, I embraced the weird, that's for sure, 830 01:09:15,159 --> 01:09:15,760 say man,