1 00:00:00,560 --> 00:00:05,960 The idea that conspiracies can't exist is a ridiculous thing. I participated in a 2 00:00:06,080 --> 00:00:13,679 worldwide conspiracy to convert the entire world to Evangelical Christianity. And like I said, 3 00:00:13,880 --> 00:00:18,440 you don't need micromanaged levels, and you don't have to imagine some person 4 00:00:18,480 --> 00:00:22,719 sitting at the top twirling their mustache, you know, and directing everybody at 5 00:00:22,760 --> 00:00:27,760 every level for this to happen. You just need common attention, you know, 6 00:00:27,960 --> 00:00:33,679 a common implicit and sometimes explicit recognition that we have something in common, 7 00:00:33,759 --> 00:00:49,799 a goal in common. This is Jonathan Peshel, Welcome to the symbolic world. 8 00:01:00,920 --> 00:01:03,000 So for those of you who have seen I put out a video with 9 00:01:03,079 --> 00:01:11,760 Mary Harrington talking about the often mythological imaging of conspiracy theory and how we can 10 00:01:11,799 --> 00:01:15,200 often see through some of the fairy tale motifs or some of the story motifs 11 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:21,519 that you find in the conspiracy theories to find a nugget hidden behind it which 12 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:26,120 can help us understand what is happening in the world. That it's not completely 13 00:01:26,239 --> 00:01:30,239 arbitrary. The way that these stories show up and how they do manifest a 14 00:01:30,319 --> 00:01:37,959 deep distrust for the authorities, and they also often manifest some aspects of how 15 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:44,680 that distrust based in actions that the elites or the governments have on us contain 16 00:01:45,159 --> 00:01:49,239 patterns of truth in them. But I also wanted to be careful that people 17 00:01:49,319 --> 00:01:55,439 don't think that conspiracies are impossible, because there is a very strange moment right 18 00:01:55,480 --> 00:02:01,159 now in culture where it becomes almost impossible to ide identify someone acting against us, 19 00:02:01,400 --> 00:02:05,840 and as soon as we do, we are accused of being a conspiracy 20 00:02:05,879 --> 00:02:09,560 theorist. In some ways, the word conspiracy theorist has become a slander that 21 00:02:09,639 --> 00:02:17,240 we give to anybody who seems to suspect the official narrative, that suspects what 22 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:23,120 the governments are telling us, And so the word conspiracy theorist has become a 23 00:02:23,159 --> 00:02:29,400 propaganda tool for people in power to prevent us from noticing when some of the 24 00:02:29,439 --> 00:02:34,280 actions that are being taken against us don't seem to be in our best interest. 25 00:02:34,319 --> 00:02:37,719 Let's say we saw a lot of that happen during the COVID era, 26 00:02:38,240 --> 00:02:40,280 and we're going to see a lot more of it come downstream for us. 27 00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:47,479 My own Prime minister keeps using the words misinformation disinformation to basically tag on any 28 00:02:47,599 --> 00:02:53,360 narrative that he disagrees with. Politically, these are very dangerous times when we 29 00:02:53,360 --> 00:02:55,439 see this happening. And so I just want to point to you to my 30 00:02:55,520 --> 00:03:00,120 brother Matsieur Paget on Twitter. He has been doing what I can only say 31 00:03:00,199 --> 00:03:06,919 is an amazing job at let's say, analyzing and looking at the mechanisms by 32 00:03:06,919 --> 00:03:10,560 which we've come to think this way and by which we've come it's become impossible 33 00:03:10,919 --> 00:03:15,199 for us to identify, let's say, when the system is rotten and when 34 00:03:15,240 --> 00:03:20,879 there's action against us, when enemy is acting against us from within the system, 35 00:03:21,719 --> 00:03:24,680 and he really breaks it down. So it's very much worth following him 36 00:03:24,879 --> 00:03:30,000 and looking at his different threads on Twitter to see how it is that this 37 00:03:30,039 --> 00:03:35,080 has captured us. But what I wanted to talk about today is mostly to 38 00:03:35,120 --> 00:03:42,680 help people understand how conspiracies are often around us, how we participate in them, 39 00:03:42,719 --> 00:03:46,439 and how other people participate in conspiracies, and that although we do that 40 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:51,520 all the time, we are now told that it is impossible for these things 41 00:03:51,520 --> 00:03:54,439 to exist. And so I, for example, grew up in an Evangelical 42 00:03:54,560 --> 00:04:00,479 church. I grew up in a Protestant environment, and I participated in what 43 00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:04,599 can only be called a worldwide conspiracy, you know, in the churches that 44 00:04:04,680 --> 00:04:11,159 I grew up with, especially, there was a conspiracy to convert all human 45 00:04:11,159 --> 00:04:15,920 beings on the earth to not only Christianity, but to my very specific version 46 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:21,879 of Christianity. And this was both explicit and implicit within the structure that I 47 00:04:21,959 --> 00:04:27,720 had. It was both centralized and decentralized, which means that there didn't have 48 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:31,759 to be strict relationships between all the different churches for that conspiracy to take effect. 49 00:04:32,199 --> 00:04:36,000 But we all knew that this is one of the goals that we had 50 00:04:36,120 --> 00:04:41,240 as churches, our own church and churches that we didn't know about and people 51 00:04:41,240 --> 00:04:46,639 that we didn't know about, and sometimes it would manifest itself centrally. That 52 00:04:46,759 --> 00:04:50,439 mean that there would be people in power, certain evangelists or certain pastors that 53 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:56,000 were you know, considered revered or having influence, even though they didn't have 54 00:04:56,040 --> 00:05:00,199 a strict, you know, micromanaged relationship. It didn't have to be like 55 00:05:00,839 --> 00:05:05,000 an organization that is completely organized all the way through, but it was people 56 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:10,720 that had influence and that we all recognize as having some kind of authority would 57 00:05:10,759 --> 00:05:15,759 give directions, you know, how to evangelize movements and evangelization different ways of 58 00:05:15,800 --> 00:05:20,040 doing it, and then that would trickle down in the churches, so that 59 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:27,680 it would affect the way that we did our evangelization, the way that we 60 00:05:27,800 --> 00:05:30,839 recognize how important it was at different moments, with the waves of how important 61 00:05:30,879 --> 00:05:34,759 it was. And so this was something that I participated in. And so 62 00:05:35,199 --> 00:05:41,560 the idea that conspiracies can't exist is a ridiculous thing. I participated in a 63 00:05:41,680 --> 00:05:48,199 worldwide conspiracy to convert the entire world to evangelical Christianity. And like I said, 64 00:05:48,399 --> 00:05:53,959 you don't need micromanaged levels, and you don't have to imagine some person 65 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:58,240 sitting at the top twirling their mustache, you know, and directing everybody at 66 00:05:58,279 --> 00:06:02,839 every level for this to happen. You just need common attention, you know, 67 00:06:03,079 --> 00:06:10,199 a common implicit and sometimes explicit recognition that we have something in common, 68 00:06:10,199 --> 00:06:13,800 a goal in common, and then people end up helping each other, working 69 00:06:14,079 --> 00:06:19,560 together, working decentralized and centralized towards the manifestation of that of that you know, 70 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:24,920 that worldwide conspiracy. And you know, and so when we recognize, 71 00:06:24,920 --> 00:06:30,240 for example, in the Rainbow Coalition, a conspiracy to affect the world, 72 00:06:30,439 --> 00:06:33,439 and we're told that that is impossible, and it's ridiculous to state that. 73 00:06:34,040 --> 00:06:36,839 Obviously, it's a conspiracy, of course, it's a conspiracy. It's a 74 00:06:36,879 --> 00:06:43,120 conspiracy of people that are both centralized and decentralized that recognize a goal, which 75 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:46,720 is to get everybody to accept their own position, and they act in the 76 00:06:46,759 --> 00:06:49,759 world. They have agents in the world, you know, and so they 77 00:06:50,120 --> 00:06:56,639 try to infiltrate different organizations, just like Christians do that too. They don't 78 00:06:56,680 --> 00:07:00,480 do it out of weird mischievous and like you know, whispering behind doors. 79 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:03,879 You know, it's like, we want people that agree with us to be 80 00:07:03,959 --> 00:07:10,040 part of the institutions around us and influencing those institutions towards the goals that we 81 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:13,879 think are important. And that is true of the Rainbow Coalition, and it's 82 00:07:13,920 --> 00:07:18,800 true of Islam, and it's true of you know, different uh interest groups 83 00:07:18,839 --> 00:07:24,079 in the world and different organizations that are sometimes centralized and like I said, 84 00:07:24,399 --> 00:07:30,040 sometimes decentralized. This year we saw the advent of the Progress Pride flag, 85 00:07:30,399 --> 00:07:33,920 and so all of a sudden, everywhere in the world the Pride flag got 86 00:07:33,959 --> 00:07:40,279 switched to this new Progress flag, and so that is called the conspiracy. 87 00:07:40,639 --> 00:07:45,639 That is a network of people that have all agreed to do something in unison. 88 00:07:46,360 --> 00:07:48,199 You know, this isn't a government. This isn't like people that were 89 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:54,680 elected for it to happen. It was a It was a concentrated effort of 90 00:07:54,720 --> 00:07:58,959 an organ of a of a let's say, of a series of people related 91 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:03,439 to each other that all agree to do something in unison. And it's not 92 00:08:03,560 --> 00:08:05,279 like it doesn't have to be a totally top down thing. Sometimes it can 93 00:08:05,439 --> 00:08:09,800 just be everybody knows where to look, and when something changes in that direction, 94 00:08:11,199 --> 00:08:16,920 then everybody aligns themselves with that change without receiving orders, without receiving some 95 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:22,000 like explicit orders from the top down all the way to them. And so 96 00:08:22,759 --> 00:08:26,000 that is very important to understand. And so we have to be able to 97 00:08:26,040 --> 00:08:28,240 break like this is what Mattsiir has been trying to help people do, is 98 00:08:28,279 --> 00:08:33,240 like to break a kind of spell on us where we you know, it 99 00:08:33,320 --> 00:08:39,159 is impossible for us to notice that these patterns of aggression or these these patterns 100 00:08:39,159 --> 00:08:45,440 of organized intention appear in the world because the media and the governments are telling 101 00:08:45,519 --> 00:08:48,159 us that as soon as we notice that that it is a wild conspiracy. 102 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:52,279 And so it's the same with things like the WF or globalist organizations. Those 103 00:08:52,320 --> 00:08:58,200 globalist organizations, they have a conspiracy. It's called twenty thirty, you know. 104 00:08:58,279 --> 00:09:01,080 And in twenty thirty, they have goal that they want to reach, 105 00:09:01,480 --> 00:09:05,679 and they are organizing people that agree with them, both explicitly and implicitly, 106 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:11,279 in order to bring about those goals. And so opportunities, any opportunity is 107 00:09:11,279 --> 00:09:16,000 good to bring about that goal, and so people activate themselves at different levels 108 00:09:16,399 --> 00:09:20,600 of this conspiracy in order for that to happen. And so when we notice 109 00:09:20,639 --> 00:09:24,720 it happening in the world, then we call it out and we're told that 110 00:09:24,720 --> 00:09:28,480 we're conspiracy theorists. This is just part This is in some ways a weapon 111 00:09:28,559 --> 00:09:33,519 of the conspiracy in order to prevent us to stand in the way, in 112 00:09:33,639 --> 00:09:35,480 order to prevent us from not wanting it to happen. And so we have 113 00:09:35,559 --> 00:09:39,559 to we really have to break that way of thinking. And it's interesting because 114 00:09:39,639 --> 00:09:45,039 my brother Metsyr for a few years now, he's been telling me, Jonathan, 115 00:09:45,080 --> 00:09:46,039 you need to talk about this, you need to talk about this, 116 00:09:46,440 --> 00:09:50,360 and I didn't see the way to do it, Like I just didn't see 117 00:09:50,399 --> 00:09:52,480 the way to do it. And so he decided to do it on his 118 00:09:52,519 --> 00:09:56,240 own, to go out on Twitter and to start breaking down how this works. 119 00:09:56,279 --> 00:10:00,200 And it helped me because I'm like, oh, this, this is 120 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:03,120 the way we can talk about this so that it makes sense. And there 121 00:10:03,200 --> 00:10:07,639 is a relationship ultimately between that and symbolism, because there is another way in 122 00:10:07,639 --> 00:10:15,039 which you can understand that centralized activity can happen without what people imagine to be 123 00:10:15,159 --> 00:10:22,039 this insanely detailed top down agreement on everything. Think about any type of hierarchy. 124 00:10:22,360 --> 00:10:26,000 You know, the way a hierarchy works isn't through this like explicit top 125 00:10:26,039 --> 00:10:30,399 down thing. There is a top down structure that moves all the way down, 126 00:10:30,679 --> 00:10:33,159 but in some ways, the people that are at different levels of the 127 00:10:33,240 --> 00:10:39,320 structure, they don't have to transparently know what is completely above them. In 128 00:10:39,320 --> 00:10:43,600 some ways, what is above them can remain opaque and all they need is 129 00:10:43,840 --> 00:10:48,080 an incentive to do the thing at the level that they are. So think 130 00:10:48,120 --> 00:10:52,480 about a soldier digging trenches during a war. That soldier does not need to 131 00:10:52,559 --> 00:10:56,960 know what the general's strategy for winning a certain fight is. You know, 132 00:10:58,039 --> 00:11:00,840 he has to be vaguely aware that they are that they want to win the 133 00:11:00,879 --> 00:11:03,960 war. He has to have like at least some direction, but he doesn't 134 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:07,639 need to know all the plans coming down all the way to him. You 135 00:11:07,679 --> 00:11:11,919 know, he just needs his commander to tell him to dig the trenches, 136 00:11:13,200 --> 00:11:16,480 and he just needs enough trust and enough incentive at his level to do that. 137 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:22,200 So that is also true of any type of directed, centralized, you 138 00:11:22,240 --> 00:11:28,080 know action in the world. People just need to have advantage at their level 139 00:11:28,159 --> 00:11:31,080 in order to do that. So think about you know, a lot of 140 00:11:31,120 --> 00:11:35,440 what people said were the COVID During COVID, we saw a lot of this 141 00:11:35,519 --> 00:11:39,320 type of action, which was that the doctors didn't have to be part of 142 00:11:39,360 --> 00:11:46,159 some crazy conspiracy about COVID in order to implement certain things. All they needed 143 00:11:46,200 --> 00:11:48,639 where it was to have advantage at their level to do it. And it 144 00:11:48,679 --> 00:11:54,240 was the same with all the different organizations, all the different companies or whatever. 145 00:11:54,559 --> 00:12:00,639 It's like. If you are handing out massive amounts of money to people 146 00:12:00,720 --> 00:12:07,399 who go along with the basic narrative, then that's all you need in order 147 00:12:07,440 --> 00:12:11,919 for the entire conspiracy to work. You don't need anybody being completely aware of 148 00:12:11,960 --> 00:12:16,000 whatever goals people have. You just need at your level. So if you 149 00:12:16,440 --> 00:12:20,440 give incentive, if you pay more money for hospitals who declare someone to be 150 00:12:20,480 --> 00:12:24,919 a COVID death, you know, and then obviously then you'll have more COVID 151 00:12:24,960 --> 00:12:30,320 death. And you know, it doesn't necessarily even have to be that everybody 152 00:12:30,320 --> 00:12:35,399 there is completely shifty and is just trying to get money for themselves. It's 153 00:12:35,480 --> 00:12:39,279 just like an implicit thing that sets itself up when you give incentive for people 154 00:12:39,320 --> 00:12:43,919 to do it. And this is something that we experience all the time. 155 00:12:43,279 --> 00:12:46,720 And so let me give you an example in your life that you experience that 156 00:12:46,840 --> 00:12:50,679 I experience all the time. Right, So, where I live in Quebec, 157 00:12:50,919 --> 00:12:56,600 there is an implicit thing which is that if you get a construction worker 158 00:12:56,799 --> 00:13:00,879 or a plumber or an electrician to come to your house to do some work, 159 00:13:01,039 --> 00:13:03,480 they will ask you a question, and that question will be would you 160 00:13:03,600 --> 00:13:07,720 like a receipt with this work? Do you want to receipt? And what 161 00:13:07,759 --> 00:13:13,240 that question means is do you want to pay taxes on the work that I'm 162 00:13:13,279 --> 00:13:18,240 going to do? Now, this will happen all the time. Almost every 163 00:13:18,279 --> 00:13:22,360 single person that works in construction or in these type of manual labors knows that 164 00:13:22,360 --> 00:13:26,159 that's how it works. So why does it happen? Well, because there's 165 00:13:26,240 --> 00:13:33,639 advantage for that conspiracy to exist. Because if I say I don't want tax 166 00:13:33,679 --> 00:13:37,000 I don't want to pay taxes, then I don't have to pay taxes. 167 00:13:37,320 --> 00:13:41,919 And this person will take cash and won't declare that as his revenue, therefore 168 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:46,960 will also pay less taxes to the government ultimately. And so this is something 169 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:54,080 that everybody does that everybody knows is happening. Every police officer, every politician, 170 00:13:54,600 --> 00:14:00,279 every single person all along the hierarchy knows that if a construction worker comes 171 00:14:00,279 --> 00:14:03,960 to your house, will ask you would like would you like to pay taxes? 172 00:14:03,159 --> 00:14:09,080 And everybody plays along although it is completely illegal, right, there is 173 00:14:09,120 --> 00:14:16,919 this mass conspiracy to break the law, all of everybody agreeing to do it 174 00:14:16,039 --> 00:14:20,600 or not to do it, and nobody's snitching on anybody, so that there's 175 00:14:20,600 --> 00:14:24,960 this massive illegal activity which happens all the way through my society. And so 176 00:14:24,480 --> 00:14:28,799 conspiracies obviously exists like there, it is like mass. So this one isn't 177 00:14:28,840 --> 00:14:33,679 centralized, like this one isn't directed, it's just an emergent phenomena. But 178 00:14:33,399 --> 00:14:37,960 you know, all of these possibilities exists. It is possible also to have 179 00:14:39,120 --> 00:14:43,159 more centralized, you know, directed intention like when I grew up in the 180 00:14:43,159 --> 00:14:50,600 evangelical churches, or like the Rainbow Coalition is also doing and other different types 181 00:14:50,639 --> 00:14:56,159 of influences that people have. All of these things are possible, and the 182 00:14:56,279 --> 00:15:03,039 caricature of thinking that conspiracy theory are impossible because you know, it's always this 183 00:15:03,240 --> 00:15:09,919 completely has to be this like top down, micromanaged thing where everybody knows what 184 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:13,519 they're why they're doing what they're doing from top to bottom. That's a ridiculous 185 00:15:13,600 --> 00:15:20,360 thing. And it's ridiculous because nobody acts that way and nobody you know that 186 00:15:20,360 --> 00:15:24,200 that's not how it works, because you know, it just happens that way. 187 00:15:24,440 --> 00:15:28,679 Like here's another example of a global a global conspiracy theory. And this 188 00:15:28,759 --> 00:15:31,039 is going to go against a little bit the way that I talk about Santa 189 00:15:31,080 --> 00:15:37,600 Claus, which is that every year, you know, millions of parents tell 190 00:15:37,639 --> 00:15:41,960 their children that there's a man in a red suit that flies above their house 191 00:15:41,039 --> 00:15:46,360 and is going to land on the house and bring gifts to the child. 192 00:15:46,879 --> 00:15:50,960 And then not only the parents, all the companies do that. Every single 193 00:15:52,039 --> 00:15:56,559 company is at using advertisement, you know, talking about this red man in 194 00:15:56,600 --> 00:16:00,759 the suit that flies around and brings gifts to everybody. Not only that the 195 00:16:00,799 --> 00:16:04,679 government is involved. If your child writes a letter to Santa Claus and sends 196 00:16:04,679 --> 00:16:08,320 it to the mail then that letter, you know, will get to the 197 00:16:08,440 --> 00:16:12,080 post office and Santa Claus will answer and send it back to you, you 198 00:16:12,080 --> 00:16:18,240 know, and there isn't an actual red man who does this. All of 199 00:16:18,279 --> 00:16:22,279 these people from the very from the president or the prime minister of your country, 200 00:16:22,559 --> 00:16:26,120 through the entire you know system of the government, all the corporations, 201 00:16:26,279 --> 00:16:32,440 and all the families are participating in this worldwide conspiracy. You know, to 202 00:16:32,559 --> 00:16:37,639 tell children that Santa Claus exists, and the answer is yes. And the 203 00:16:37,720 --> 00:16:41,480 reason is because Santa Claus exists. He doesn't exist exactly in the way, 204 00:16:41,840 --> 00:16:47,639 but there's a principality acting on all of these levels and making it, making 205 00:16:47,679 --> 00:16:52,120 it happen. And so that is also true of other types of conspiracies. 206 00:16:52,240 --> 00:16:56,679 That is, there our principalities acting out in the world, and everybody can 207 00:16:56,720 --> 00:17:02,919 participate in them without having to get a memo from the secret boss or whatever, 208 00:17:03,039 --> 00:17:07,240 and like you know, suspiciously acting you know, in secret, so 209 00:17:07,279 --> 00:17:10,799 that nobody knows what you're doing, you know, the way that people imagine 210 00:17:10,839 --> 00:17:14,759 like the Illuminati or the Freemasons or whatever. It's like it's just the way 211 00:17:14,799 --> 00:17:18,960 that systems of intention actually manifest themselves in the world and so I would say, 212 00:17:19,599 --> 00:17:23,920 you know, it's very important on the one hand to look at a 213 00:17:23,960 --> 00:17:26,440 lot of the stories that come out. I mean, obviously a lot of 214 00:17:27,240 --> 00:17:30,960 you know, there are a lot of conspiracy theories that are just blatantly false 215 00:17:32,240 --> 00:17:37,039 that are and just because some conspiracy theories are blatantly false doesn't mean that conspiracies 216 00:17:37,480 --> 00:17:41,720 don't exist, that conspiracies can't happen, and that governments can't act against their 217 00:17:41,720 --> 00:17:48,519 people, and there can't be faction within governments that act with other intentions besides 218 00:17:48,880 --> 00:17:51,920 to serve the people. All of these things can be true at the same 219 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:55,839 time. But when we fall to this weird fear, and I felt it 220 00:17:55,880 --> 00:17:59,440 myself because I myself have been like, I don't want to be called the 221 00:17:59,480 --> 00:18:02,480 conspiracy theories, you know, I don't want because that's like the worst thing 222 00:18:02,519 --> 00:18:04,519 you can say about someone. But I think it is in some ways time 223 00:18:04,559 --> 00:18:10,279 to break away from this kind of simple thinking and to be able to rather 224 00:18:10,359 --> 00:18:15,640 discern when we're seeing, you know, concerted action in different directions and be 225 00:18:15,720 --> 00:18:19,440 able to recognize different agencies working through the world, even if we know that 226 00:18:19,480 --> 00:18:23,640 the people implementing it at the lower levels don't know what they're doing that. 227 00:18:23,680 --> 00:18:27,359 They don't necessarily have a vision of the grand scope of things. It doesn't 228 00:18:27,400 --> 00:18:33,160 really matter. They only need reason to act at their own level. And 229 00:18:33,200 --> 00:18:37,160 that can just be money, it can just be prestige. It can just 230 00:18:37,240 --> 00:18:41,880 be to look right in front of your neighbors. It can just be like 231 00:18:41,960 --> 00:18:47,480 social acceptance. There are all kinds of reasons why conspiracies can happen in the 232 00:18:47,519 --> 00:18:52,599 world, and that everybody can participate them, you know, without knowing what 233 00:18:52,640 --> 00:18:56,839 the end goal is. So that is you know, a few thoughts on 234 00:18:56,880 --> 00:19:00,480 that, because with the discussion with Mary Harrington kind of talked about it more 235 00:19:00,519 --> 00:19:04,400 in the fairytale mythological way, which I think is important to understand and to 236 00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:07,880 see. But I wanted to be careful that people didn't think that I was 237 00:19:07,920 --> 00:19:11,960 saying that therefore conspiracy impossible. It's like, no, yeah, there are 238 00:19:11,960 --> 00:19:18,960 sometimes necessarily that's just how the world works. There is directed action in certain 239 00:19:18,359 --> 00:19:22,880 directions, sometimes explicit, sometimes implicit, but we have to be able to 240 00:19:22,920 --> 00:19:26,279 recognize it when we see it. So hope this was helpful. Thanks for 241 00:19:26,279 --> 00:19:30,720 your attention, and I'll talk to you very soon. If you enjoy these 242 00:19:30,799 --> 00:19:34,240 videos and podcasts, please go to the symbolic world dot com website and see 243 00:19:34,279 --> 00:19:38,359 how you can support what we're doing. There are multiple subscriber tiers with perks. 244 00:19:38,599 --> 00:19:41,839 There are apparel in books to purchase, So go to the symbolic world 245 00:19:41,839 --> 00:19:44,960 dot com and thank you for your support.