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command, Gut do get so treenly
Don Matzille giving Here we go. Welcome

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everybody. We are live. Today
is Tuesday, September nineteen, twenty twenty

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three, and this is Matt Connerton
unleashed, coming to you live from the

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studios of w M n H ninety
five point three f I'm in glorious downtown

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Manchester, New Hampshire, also on
Comcast ninety seven. If you're in Manchester,

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and hello to all of our online
listeners across the nation and around the

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globe. You can go to my
website Matt Connerton dot com for all of

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your live streaming options, social media
links, contact info, show archives,

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etcetera, etcetera. Did I say
Comcast ninety seven or did I say channel

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six? I still can't get used
to that. We're on Comcast channel six

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if you're in Manchester. I think
I slipped again and said uh and said

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ninety seven. Oh boy, by
the way, Oh and I just got

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a message from so uh there.
That's a brand new intro there. Of

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course, our friend Jerry Robinson from
Jerry Robinson and the scumbags sent me,

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his producer mister B sent me the
brand new intro, the shortened version version

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of the track from the album that
we were using as my intro. So

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I love the I love the new
version there. So that's what you just

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heard, the remix of the new
intro for the The Commander to the Supreme

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Leader of Jerry Robinson's Rock and Roll
Army. That's me. I'm the Commander

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to the Supreme Leader. It's a
very prestigious position and very powerful. There's

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great power that comes with it.
But like I always saying, anyone who

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is worried about that, just trust
me. It's fine. You can trust

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me with great power. So it's
all good. It's all good. But

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yeah, so welcome everybody. And
I was not live yesterday. Yesterday was

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a best of some things came up
to, some boring business stuff, but

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it made it. I try I
try to not miss shows. I try

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very hard to not ever miss a
live show. But yesterday was just there

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was just a lot going on,
so I had to deal with some stuff.

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But I think we have our first
call of the day of the week.

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Really, Matt, let me tell
you, Seth in a very president

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speaking Oh my goodness, into there
is really helpful. It was fake news.

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Unbelievable. Oh well, so that
that wasn't don't play me, sir.

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That was a comedian named John Walsh. She he did that, But

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what do I know. I'm too
busy with my lawyers anyway. But it

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sounded also hurtful, unbelievable. My
friend, listen, everybody knows that I'm

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innocent. I'm gonna walk on water
because that's what I do. Ah.

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Well, of course, like the
Eddy Money song, if I could walk

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on water, listen, my friend, dat quit your day job. Believe

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me, radios where it's at just
not just singing. I understand, mister

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president. Well, I will take
that under advisement, sir. Oh listen,

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it's time for yard call. I
have to go. I don't want

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to miss out on my honey buns
and like smokes if you know what I

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mean. Thank you listening. Would
talk to you later, and don't forget.

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We need to make a man great
again. Goodbye, all right,

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goodbye, mister Trump. Wow,
I thought that was somebody else. It

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turned out to be a former president, Donald John Trump. That is remarkable.

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He sounded like he's like he's got
a bit of a cold today,

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but excellent, excellent. I'll have
to I'll have to make a note of

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that when when I see that number
on the caller ID. It's not necessarily

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who I think it is. I
will make a note of that going forward

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for real. But wow, what
a what a nice surprise, what a

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nice surprise. I mean, listen, he's a candidate for the presidency and

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we are the first in the nation
primary at least last I knew that might

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be changing. We'll see. Got
into a whole big thing about that last

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week on the show. But stay
strong, New Hampshire. We need to

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keep our first in the nation status. That's what I say anyway, So

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welcome and the studio line. If
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in the Facebook live chat. But
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can hear and enjoy your dulcet tones
is give us a call at six three,

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two, five, six seven,
and we've got a lot of time

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today. Don't have an official guest
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me flying solo. So I do
have a specific subject potentially two actually,

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that I want to get into,
and it is an issue where I'm looking

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forward to getting some feedback from the
audience on the matter because it happens to

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be something that I'm not sure how
I feel about it, and to me,

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those are perhaps selfishly but those are
the most interesting subjects I find to

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explore, and I'll tell you what
that is in just a couple of moments.

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But well, we do have so
no guests today officially, However,

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we do have tomorrow. We've got
musical guests the rest of the week.

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Tomorrow, of course is Wednesday,
which means we'll be spending the first hour

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with my favorite conservative Eric Pilcher from
Cedar Rapids, Iowa. And then in

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the second hour we have an in
studio guest to Marvel, Prone great band.

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They've been on the show before.
They will be joining us tomorrow live

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in studio in our number two.
Looking forward to that. Thursday, we

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have Iron Jaw, a great Texas
band. They've also been on the show

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before and they'll be skyping in.
Looking forward to talking to those guys.

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And then Friday on the show,
we have another band who's been on the

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show before, Crooked Cash. We'll
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So a lot of a lot of
great musical guests this week, repeat offenders,

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it just so happens, but really
looking forward to that. By the

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way, the track that I played
to open the show today before the Trump

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parody by comedian John comedian John Walsh, was a track called Delusia and that

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is from Eons and Coded, and
Nolan Coda from Eons and Coded was on

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the show recently and really loved getting
to hang out with him. But I

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think at the break today, at
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play something from our guest who was
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I'm gonna I love those guys,
what a cool band. I'm gonna play

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something from there as at the at
the top of the hour as we go

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into the second hour. But let's
say hello to everybody on the Facebook live

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chat quickly and then we're gonna get
into something. Andy Barker joins us in

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the Facebook live chat and says what's
up y'all. Hello Andy, Ronda Favero

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from the great state of California joins
us, says, California Present, Welcome

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Ronda, Texas. Mike joins us
in the Facebook live chat and says,

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did my civic duty and standing at
the polls for my candidate for mayor?

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Yes, I do want to tell
people, and if you're watching online you

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might even be able to see.
I've got my little I voted sticker.

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We do have a primary election today
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where we are, so Jenny and
I went and voted. We actually

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went and voted right before the show
because she Jenny's not here in studio with

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me, but she was meeting a
friend downtown. I guess I can say

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who because it's at someone you all
know if you're a regular listener. She's

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always in the chat room and she's
been on the show Mariam Banish. But

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so, uh, but Jenny and
I went and voted, and uh,

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it was, you know, in
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that because if you're in Manchester,
if you're in if you're one of these

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people who's like, uh, do
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Let me tell you something. For
a for a primary election in this

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city, it's so easy. There's
no line, You just go in,

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you show your ID. Of course, if you don't have an ID,

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you have to sign it an affidavit
that it really is you. That's how

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we do it in New Hampshire,
which I think should be the model for

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the nation. But uh, you
know, if you don't have an ID,

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do the affidavit. So if there's
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you've signed a swore an affidavit that. That's how I think it should work.

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Anyway, I digress. But it's
quick and easy. I mean we

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were in and out of there so
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So if you are local polls clothes
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in u in the city of Manchester. I'm not gonna discuss that any further

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than that, because on this program
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we don't discuss local Manchester, New
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to national politics and you know,
maybe some state stuff, but we don't

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do local politics here. So I'll
say no more on that subject. Specifically,

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not going to tell you who I
voted for or anything like that.

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But but I would encourage you to
get out and vote. And again,

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if you're one of these people who's
like, I don't know, listen,

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it couldn't be any simpler. Seriously, you'll get in and out of there.

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I'm sure no matter what word you
are in in the city of Manchester,

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you'll be able to get it in
and out of there nice and quickly.

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It's very efficient. And you get
a little I've voted sticker. Come

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on, So there you go.
That's my that's my sermon on voting.

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Get out and vote. There you
go, and it's a beautiful day.

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You have no excuse not to go. It's not like it's sometimes people,

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you know, if they don't feel
like it, they'll say, oh,

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it's raining or it's knowing or whatever. This is perfect weather, per perfect

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weather. So get out and vote. All right, That's that's my sermon.

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But good for you, Texas,
Mike, let's see. Jay fed

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joins us from the great state of
Vermont, says good afternoon everyone. Hello.

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Isaac Banks, who I believe,
if memory serves, is from Greensboro,

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North Carolina, says good afternoon.
Hashtag Jason how are you doing.

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Isaac likes to interact with our friend
Jay Fed from the Great State of Vermont.

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Sometimes they get into arguments in the
chat room. They're a bit one

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sided. Something Jay Fed will say
something that triggers Isaac Banks. Isaac also

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says good afternoon, Matt Connerton,
good afternoon, hashtag Jen coffee, how

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are you doing? OMG, it
was SNL. By the way, no

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comedian John Walsh with his Trump parody
that was not on Saturday Night Live.

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He put that in at the end, but it was a joke. Perhaps

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he's trying to get on Saturday Night
Live and it's trying to get their attention.

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Let's see. Hans Smith, of
course, Saw from Sepsis says,

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hey Metal, Matt, Hello,
Hans, nice to see you. Isaac

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Banks, who is very loquacious and
voluble, says good afternoon, Adele Oh

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I'm sorry. Addie, Good afternoon, Addie Sellers, how are you doing?

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And Tory Stressman, good afternoon.
Hope you can get the messages from

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me. Good afternoon, Meredith Graves, please do chat message me. You

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know, I feel like Isaac Banks
is he's using our chat room here to

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kind of make a little bit of
a love connection, if you will.

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He's trying to get all these all
these ladies chat with him. Hello Chua

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Chris from the band Edgewise, who
joins us in the Facebook live chat as

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well. Oh, Isaac says,
yes, I am from Greensboro, North

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Carolina. Also, Jason and I
are cool. While very good, very

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good. I'm glad no fighting in
the chat room. That's not allowed.

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I'm totally It's actually one of my
favorite things ever, is when a brawl

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breaks out in the chat room.
I've actually sometimes if I see a fight

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going on it looks like a heated
argument, I'll actually go back after the

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show and be like, oh,
I gotta see what I missed in the

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chat room. Truth is I love
it. I love it. If you

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really want to know what that says
about me is a person, I'm not

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exactly sure. Probably nothing good,
But I do love a good chat room

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fight. Oh, Isaac Bank says, maybe a little love connection for me?

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Ah and Jen j Fed says as
the funds, Hey, oh boy,

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now now see that's gonna trigger Isaac
Bank says, what they fight over?

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Who does the Happy Days character impressions? Around here? All right?

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Six zo three two five zero six
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five six seven. One other quick
thing by the way, Because I wasn't

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here yesterday, I didn't get a
chance to do it. But happy birthday

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to Peter White of the Morning Show
with Peter White, which you can hear.

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Of course, weekday is from seven
to nine. I am with a

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replay from two to four pm right
before this show. I believe yesterday was

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his birthday, at least according to
face. I'm terrible at remembering birthdays,

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I really am. But Facebook tells
you when people's birthdays are, which is

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a wonderful thing. So I saw
that it was Peter's birthday yesterday, so

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I texted him and wished him a
happy birthday, and so I wanted to

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mention that it's funny though with the
Facebook thing, So you don't know unless

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you know me personally. You don't
know when my birthday is because Facebook doesn't

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tell you when my birthday is because
in my privacy settings I have it set

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so my birthday is not visible.
But my uncle, who also happens to

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be named Matt Connerton, his birthday
is visible. And every year there will

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be people who there will be people
wishing me a happy birthday because they see

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that it's his birthday and they think
keys me, which is weird because if

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you look at his picture, I
guess we look somewhat alike. We're related,

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but he's obviously much older anyway,
kind of funny. Isaac Bank says,

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hashtag Jason Fetterson, you know that
you can be completely a comedian sometime?

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Oh did you know that, j
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Wow? Very good? All right, here's the subject I want to

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discuss, my friends. There is
something that's been in the news that is

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a pretty big deal. And the
reason I want to talk about this today,

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and I've been wanting to get to
this it's it's a it's an issue

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that I have an opinion about it, but I don't have a strong opinion

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about it. And what I mean
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the most interesting things to discuss,
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you know, feedback from the audience
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of course the chatwoman. However else
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a good point. They make a
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this show, yes we talk about
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libertarian show. I think Dave Ridley
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conservative talk radio of course dominates talk
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on that. But you have a
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whatnot, and you know, and
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of how I feel about it,
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it much more intellectually stimulating instead of
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what I think about something, to
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I have mixed feelings about, not
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to end up at the end of
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about it. And again, it's
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I said, most shows don't operate
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come right out and tell you I'm
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I have an idea of how I
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I kind of liked it. No, no, no, I'm kidding.

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never mind, no, not appropriate
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deal with Iran to get back these
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been holding and the prisoners swapped deal. And this has been obviously in the

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news quite a bit, and I
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want to hear from from all of
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and of course you can you can
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forth. I am basically in favor
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the right thing to do. Now
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can hear, I'm sure the hesitation
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there are some who say it was
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have arguments in that regard that they
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a little conflicted because I hear them
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think that's a good point. Maybe
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that's what the subject is. By
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we might get into in the second
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kind of although the other subject I'm
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have any opinion and I'm just kind
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what you all think about it.
So we're gonna get into this. We're

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gonna get into this today. Hans
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am more often enough don't think about
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political junkie really, And of course, now that I've been doing this show

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for all these years now, I
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even take a break from it,
not that i'd want to. Isaac Bank

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says, politics to politics whatever.
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if you don't know, well,
let's look at this first. So just

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for people who aren't clear on the
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of something, Let's look at this
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we're talking about here. This is
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the prisoner swap deal. Oh easyg
is in the chatman says welcome back,

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thank you. So how is this
just gives us some quick details on this,

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we'll get us all caught up.
Well actually, wait, maybe I

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have something better. Oh no,
now we'll go with this, all right.

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This will get us, This will
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here, all right, implementation of
the deal again, this is from Reuter's

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was triggered when qatar And by the
way, I pronounce it qatar. I

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know a lot of people in media
pronounce it cutter. I find that strange.

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it's like they've created an amalgam of
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for example, saying, oh no, I'm sorry. She's not on

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NBC anymore. She's on CNN now. But I heard her saying like,

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uh, guitar like or gut no? How did she say it like gutter

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like trying to combine cutter and qatar, which ends up sounding like gutter gutar.

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It's like, why would you Why
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know. Why don't we just call
it qutar? I remember about twenty years

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ago, when I started hearing people
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guitars in the news every day,
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qatar, and all of a sudden, a sudden, started pronouncing it cutter.

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And it's like, why are you
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think if somebody who cuts themselves,
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illness, and not that I'm making
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I'm not making fun of that.
I'm just saying that's what I think

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of. I would never make fun
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so I don't. I don't make
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saying, though, that's what I
think of when you when you call the

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country cutter. It's like, what
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I remember noticing too when the change
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started, like when people stopped saying
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why are you calling it harassment?
What's wrong with calling it harassment?

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I don't know where this new pronunciation
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the planet uranus, when people started
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I'm not sure that even sounds better. I met somebody once who pronounced it

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uranus, and it was only she
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said it that way. But I
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want to go with. If you
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you don't want to say uranus and
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with uranis. I like that,
But that one never caught on. She

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was literally the only person I've ever
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digressing. Forgive me if I've transgressed
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all about Qatar. Let's go back
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was triggered when Qatar confirmed that the
funds had been transferred to bank accounts in

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Doha, a source briefed on details
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Qatar City in Qatar. Under the
deal, the five of Americans with dual

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nationality are expected to leave Tehran for
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to the United States. In return
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released. The Iranian Foreign Ministry spokesperson
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being released would return to Iran,
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their request. One d who would
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to there? I mean, I
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you've got a lot of money in
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why don't they all just stay?
Just stay in America. Oh.

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Tony Petrello joins us in the face
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and has a great example. He
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at a certain point people started saying
advertisement, It's like why do you change

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what? Like, why are you
changing the you know, you're you're It's

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like you're to my ears, you're
putting the amphosis on the wrong salabal.

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That's from a movie. I think
I didn't make that up. I'm not

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that clever. I should just not
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for it, because wherever I got
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on it, so maybe nobody knows. That's probably something obvious. Jay Fed

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says, yeah, and tomato,
Oh, tomato, tomato, let's just

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call the whole thing off now except
nobody. That doesn't count, though,

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j fed because nobody actually says tomato, like nobody like you say it when

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you're singing that song Tomato, Tomato, Potato, potato. Nobody ever actually

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says tomato. It's just like nobody
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do, they're pretty weird and you
probably associate with them. I mean,

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in all seriousness, you know,
I like to think I'm a pretty inclusive

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person. But if I were having
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uh, yeah, I like tomatoes
in my salad, I would be like,

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WHOA, you're crazy. I like
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say it funny, and I don't
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that good day to you. And
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I would assume that, because they're
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Rondo Fervero says vehicle versus vehicle.
Now, I do like to say

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vehicle. I don't know why I
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that, look, the letter H
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you can have silent letters and words, obviously, but I feel the H

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is often undervalued, so I will
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there. I think it's the right
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circumstances. I'm also a big fan, of course of Triple H the wrestler.

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He's a New Hampshire guy from Nashua
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New Hampshire. There's a there's a
reference in there that I'm not gonna but

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we're not gonna go there. And
it's nothing against the city of Nashua,

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trust me, just against someone they've
voted for more than once. We don't

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need to get into that. Oh, Isaac Banks says, good afternoon,

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Cheryl Mitchell Walker. Now, oh
I'm sorry, how are you doing?

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And hope you are safe? Yes, we all hope that Cheryl Mitchell Walker

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is safe. Thoughts and prayers,
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Okay, So again, this is
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has drawn Republican criticism the President,
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effect pain ransom for US citizens.
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important unanswered question is whether the deal
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range from Iran's nuclear standoff and the
US to Tehran's influence across the Middle East,

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including Hezbollah, It's heavily armed proxy
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how was the deal negotiated? The
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contacts, secret talks, and legal
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the negotiations. Yeah, they acted
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you will, sources and officials familiar
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the eight I'm Sorry at least eight
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Washington since March of twenty twenty two. The earlier rounds were devoted chiefly to

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Tehran's nuclear dispute with Washington, but
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the negotiators realize that nuclear talks would
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first public glimpse of the deal came
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detained US citizens to move into house
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was already confined at home. A
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the transfer of Iran's funds to banks
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role to ensure Iran's clerical rulers spend
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in other words, Iran is not
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got this cash, let's go buy
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of nukes. Hans and the chat
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England days, we would say we're
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lol, going to stove. Okay, who are the prisoners? Actually,

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we're gonna skip that part. Okay, this part is very very important.

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Why were I Run's funds frozen in
South Korea? It's it's really important to

407
00:30:15,799 --> 00:30:23,599
understand this specific detail. In twenty
eighteen, then US President Donald Trump ditched

408
00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:30,279
to Ron's twenty fifteen nuclear deal with
six world powers. That's JCPOA, which

409
00:30:30,319 --> 00:30:34,799
I supported. Uh, some people
didn't like, including Israel's net and Yah

410
00:30:34,799 --> 00:30:41,480
who didn't like the deal. I
thought the this is a little bit of

411
00:30:41,519 --> 00:30:45,039
a sidebar, but I thought the
Trump administration made a horrendous error in judgment

412
00:30:45,079 --> 00:30:47,880
by ditching that, even if they
weren't happy with it. You know,

413
00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:49,720
there's an old saying, don't let
perfect be the enemy of the good.

414
00:30:49,839 --> 00:30:53,720
And I thought it was maybe not
a perfect deal. But you know,

415
00:30:53,799 --> 00:31:03,559
the I A e A, the
International Atomics, International Atomic Energy Agency,

416
00:31:03,839 --> 00:31:06,720
it's hard to get that exactly right. It's easier to just say ia EA.

417
00:31:06,759 --> 00:31:08,960
And even though that's not that easy
to say E I E I.

418
00:31:10,039 --> 00:31:15,880
Oh. You know, they were
doing the inspections. Everything was the Iranians

419
00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:18,599
seemed to be holding up their deal, so at their end of the deal

420
00:31:18,039 --> 00:31:22,000
as far as we're aware. So
I thought it was a mistake by of

421
00:31:22,039 --> 00:31:25,519
the Trump administration. I mean,
so much of when they came in seemed

422
00:31:25,559 --> 00:31:27,759
to be, well, let's do
everything, let's undo everything. Obama did

423
00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:34,240
a little bit of a sidebar.
But so in twenty eighteen, Trump comes

424
00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:38,839
in ditches that deal, or he
waited until, I mean he'd already been

425
00:31:38,839 --> 00:31:44,559
in for a little bit. But
he also reimposed tarsh Us sanctions designed to

426
00:31:44,599 --> 00:31:49,480
choke off Iran's oil experts exports.
Rather as part of a maximum pressure campaign

427
00:31:49,599 --> 00:31:56,279
on the Islamic Republic Soul South Korea, normally one of Iran's largest oil customers,

428
00:31:56,319 --> 00:32:00,519
received a waiver in twenty eighteen from
the US to continue purchases of Iranian

429
00:32:00,599 --> 00:32:07,039
oil for several months. However,
after Washington placed a total ban on Iran's

430
00:32:07,039 --> 00:32:12,920
oil exports and sanctions on its banking
sector in twenty nineteen, Iranian revenues of

431
00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:17,319
seven billion dollars were blocked in Seoul. Okay, so that money was frozen

432
00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:24,000
in that bank, and Soul Tran
has lost nearly one billion of its initially

433
00:32:24,039 --> 00:32:29,319
deposited assets and sold due to the
depreciation of the South Korean currency against US

434
00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:34,920
dollar. Iranian authorities have said,
so that's why we talk about six billion

435
00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:42,039
instead of seven billion. Okay,
last part of this and then we'll this

436
00:32:42,119 --> 00:32:44,400
is from Reuters. I just want
to get the facts out there, and

437
00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:51,359
then we'll we'll discuss where where I
agree with the deal and where I'm ambivalent

438
00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:55,319
about it all, okay. Hostility
to the US has always been a rallying

439
00:32:55,359 --> 00:33:00,519
point for Iran's clerical establishment. They
liked to chant things like death to America

440
00:33:00,559 --> 00:33:07,319
and so forth. Despite political isolation
and sanctions related economic hardship. Since Washington

441
00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:13,160
severed ties with Tarran, shortly after
the nineteen seventy nine Islamic Revolution, Supreme

442
00:33:13,279 --> 00:33:20,960
Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamani could tolerate a
limited thaw with the quote Great Satan,

443
00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:23,319
that's what they like to call it. It's actually I think it's fun to

444
00:33:23,359 --> 00:33:30,039
have a nickname Great Satan plus good
name for a band. It's probably taken

445
00:33:30,079 --> 00:33:37,000
anyway, a limited thought with the
Great Satan amid growing public anger over severe

446
00:33:37,039 --> 00:33:44,200
economic challenges. But normalization of ties
with Washington would mean crossing the Islamic Revolutions

447
00:33:44,319 --> 00:33:51,160
red line. Iranian insiders have said
the clerical leadership fears that normalized relations with

448
00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:55,039
Washington could weaken the legitimacy of the
Islamic Republic and its influence in the region,

449
00:33:55,079 --> 00:34:00,720
as well as harming the authority of
Kamani domestically. They said, So

450
00:34:00,799 --> 00:34:06,960
that kind of catches us up on
the whole thing. Isaac Banks and the

451
00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:10,519
chat room says also, Ion Venom
four says hello to you from them,

452
00:34:10,599 --> 00:34:14,840
Well, hello to Ion Venom four. All right, So these are the

453
00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:23,159
facts, this is what this is
what the deal was. Now, let's

454
00:34:23,199 --> 00:34:34,000
take a look at the where the
controversy is. Tony Petrello says, why

455
00:34:34,079 --> 00:34:37,920
is most of the news by Reuters. Whatever happened to the AP news?

456
00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:42,960
Oh, I have that as well. Actually have a story here from the

457
00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:49,559
AP which we might get to later
if we have time. Charles Richardson says,

458
00:34:49,599 --> 00:34:58,760
hello everybody, good afternoon. Hello
Charles. Actually Reuters might get some

459
00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:02,199
of their articles from the AP because
it's it's all a little bit incestuous,

460
00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:09,239
but a lot of these services they
share very often literally the exact same articles.

461
00:35:10,119 --> 00:35:15,400
And with AI, you're gonna be
seeing even more of that. By

462
00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:22,639
the way, Oh, the chat
rooms acting weird. It's I'm seeing messages

463
00:35:22,679 --> 00:35:29,639
already. Saw Let's see I said
hello to Charles, right, Charles Richardson.

464
00:35:30,039 --> 00:35:34,280
Okay, let's get to the controversial
part. Now, this is from

465
00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:39,880
USA today. Americans are freed from
Iran. So why is the prisoner swap

466
00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:44,559
controversial for Biden? Now, if
you're just joining us, we're talking about

467
00:35:44,559 --> 00:35:49,440
the prisoner swap. Part of why
I wanted to discuss this issue specifically today

468
00:35:49,559 --> 00:35:54,000
is I have some ambivalence about it, and so I'm really curious to get

469
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:59,880
feedback from the audience on what you
all think about this subject. I basically

470
00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:06,400
am in agreement with the administration on
doing this, but the arguments I'm hearing

471
00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:14,840
against it are not unpersuasive. They've
planted seeds of doubt in my mind.

472
00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:17,159
So I'm a little bit conflicted.
I'm a little bit ambivalent, and I'm

473
00:36:17,199 --> 00:36:21,599
curious here or what you all think. But this is from USA Today just

474
00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:27,920
explains some of the controversy. President
Joe Biden is facing heat over his decision

475
00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:31,519
to go through with the controversial prisoner
exchange between the US and Iran. The

476
00:36:31,599 --> 00:36:37,559
deal could pave the way for better
relations with the bitter adversary adversary, but

477
00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:44,039
it's also put Biden at further odds
with congressional Republicans and provided new fodder for

478
00:36:44,159 --> 00:36:49,840
his presidential rivals at issue the release
of six billion dollars and frozen assets.

479
00:36:50,679 --> 00:36:53,639
Republicans have equated the swap with Iran
to the administration paying out a ransom for

480
00:36:53,639 --> 00:36:59,239
the freed Americans. America has a
policy of not paying ransoms, and they

481
00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:02,800
say Biden's administration cannot guarantee that the
money will not be used to fund Iran's

482
00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:08,960
nuclear and ballistic missile programs, Russia's
war against Ukraine, or terrorism. Biden's

483
00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:15,719
critics are also warning the policy could
lead to the unjust arrest and attention of

484
00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:22,880
more Americans. Now let's stop stop
on this for a moment. So and

485
00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:25,840
there's there's more to the way USA
Today breaks down the controversy. But before

486
00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:34,599
we do that, just some quick
thoughts. So I my support, tepid

487
00:37:35,159 --> 00:37:38,400
and hesitant as it may be,
for what has gone on here, is,

488
00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:42,880
first of all, it's you know, good to get Americans released,

489
00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:45,360
right. I mean, these are
human beings, and you know, somebody

490
00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:49,039
who's been locked up for eight years, it's good to get them out.

491
00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:52,039
Oh hello to Mike from my Queen
City cabinetry, who joins us in the

492
00:37:52,039 --> 00:37:59,679
Facebook lap chat and says, good
afternoon everyone. So it's good to get

493
00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:06,400
good get Americans released, right,
and it's good to see the administration making

494
00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:08,480
the effort to do that. That's
a good thing. So I'm supportive of

495
00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:19,239
that in principle. And there is
always the hope that this will lead to

496
00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:24,320
something else. I really think unfortunately, it's going to be difficult though,

497
00:38:25,039 --> 00:38:32,679
in the future to re establish you
know, we talked just a few minutes

498
00:38:32,679 --> 00:38:38,239
ago about the JCPOA, the Iran
nuclear deal that was negotiated under the Obama

499
00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:46,480
administration, and then the Trump administration
came up and to be precise, didn't

500
00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:53,280
exactly blow up the deal, just
withdrew the United States from it. So

501
00:38:55,760 --> 00:39:00,119
Europe tried to stay in the deal
with Iran even though we had withdrawn.

502
00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:07,559
But and that held for a little
while. But without the United States a

503
00:39:07,599 --> 00:39:12,119
part of it, it really isn't
worth much in the end, apparently,

504
00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:16,719
because it eventually it did disintegrate.
I think it's going to be very difficult

505
00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:22,519
to Well, let me put it
this way. If we want to make

506
00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:30,320
some sort of new arrangement with the
Iranians, how do you do that when

507
00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:32,840
we've already we already went through this. Once we had an agreement, they

508
00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:37,440
were abiding by it as far as
I know, unless I missed something,

509
00:39:37,559 --> 00:39:42,519
All the reportings suggests that they were
abiding by the deal. Now, maybe

510
00:39:42,559 --> 00:39:45,920
you don't like the deal, but
they were abiding by what was agreed to.

511
00:39:51,199 --> 00:39:54,400
And then the next administration comes in
and says, no, we don't

512
00:39:54,400 --> 00:40:02,239
like the deal, and we're out. I don't know how in the future

513
00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:09,079
we can ever get Iran back to
the table for something like that, knowing

514
00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:17,119
when they know that they can't necessarily
in good faith believe Well, let me

515
00:40:17,119 --> 00:40:21,559
put it this way, they can't
trust from their perspective, I'm sure that

516
00:40:21,559 --> 00:40:24,880
the United States is negotiating in good
faith when the next administration could come in

517
00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:28,920
and say, oh, this new
deal that you guys did, Yeah,

518
00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:32,480
we don't like this either, and
we're going to withdraw from this. So

519
00:40:35,119 --> 00:40:38,639
I don't know, I don't know
how you get there. So when we

520
00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:49,480
talk about the hope that this will
be the beginning, see when John Kirby

521
00:40:49,639 --> 00:40:55,440
was on I think it was Andrea
Mitchell who was asking him on MSNBC about

522
00:40:58,320 --> 00:41:04,119
will this is this scene as a
potential stepping stone to getting a new deal,

523
00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:08,039
a new arrangement worked out a new
agreement in terms of a run enriching

524
00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:13,639
uranium for nuclear weapons. Kirby said
no, and he was very clear about

525
00:41:13,679 --> 00:41:15,719
it too. There was no ambivalence
from him. He was very clear those

526
00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:19,199
are two separate issues and this has
nothing to do with it, and this

527
00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:23,280
should not be seen as having anything
to do with that, which was discouraging

528
00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:31,239
to hear. Frankly, I was
hoping that the former admiral would say,

529
00:41:31,639 --> 00:41:35,920
why, yes, we are hopeful
that this can be the beginning of some

530
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:39,960
further cooperation. I mean, he
might have said something about further cooperation because

531
00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:45,440
there are more prisoners we can work
on exchanging, and there are other things

532
00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:51,239
that we can do too. I'm
sure, but I have a suspicion that

533
00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:58,119
the reason they're not saying that we're
hopeful that this might lead to some sort

534
00:41:58,119 --> 00:42:04,760
of new deal is because probably nobody
thinks it's possible, because it probably isn't

535
00:42:05,639 --> 00:42:12,800
because we already screwed that up.
That's that's my view of it. Oh.

536
00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:16,119
Hello to Melanie law Liberty in the
Facebook live chat. Hello. So

537
00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:20,559
if you're arguing in favor of it, and again I'm I'm in favor of

538
00:42:20,599 --> 00:42:25,800
what they've done, sort of like
I said, I've doubts too. I

539
00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:30,400
would not argue that this is the
beginning one of my arguments in favor of

540
00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:32,280
it. Actually, my key argument
would be it's good to get Americans back

541
00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:37,239
who have been unjustly imprisoned. That's
a good thing. But I probably wouldn't

542
00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:39,800
bother to try to argue with you
that, well, I think this is

543
00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:45,920
the beginning of a new, a
new budding relationship with Iran. I don't

544
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:51,199
see how we get that back.
Not well, I shouldn't say it that

545
00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:53,920
way. We never had that but
I don't see how we get back to

546
00:42:54,119 --> 00:43:00,440
the negotiating table with them when we
already had an agreement in place and then

547
00:43:01,639 --> 00:43:12,719
we pulled the rug out. So
now the part here about so Republicans have

548
00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:16,119
equated the swap with Iran to the
administration paying out a ransom for the freed

549
00:43:16,239 --> 00:43:22,960
Americans. I want to focus on
that a little bit too, because,

550
00:43:24,679 --> 00:43:29,480
first of all, just to be
clear, and I've been pleasantly surprised,

551
00:43:29,519 --> 00:43:32,519
I'm not seeing and hearing a lot
of this yet. But back during the

552
00:43:32,519 --> 00:43:38,840
Obama administration, when the Iran nuclear
Deal had been negotiated, a similar thing

553
00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:44,599
happened as to what's happened here with
this deal, where funds that were being

554
00:43:44,639 --> 00:43:52,320
held they were frozen in escrow that
belonged to Iran, but those funds had

555
00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:57,079
been frozen due to sanctions and so
forth. I don't remember the exact circumstances

556
00:43:57,280 --> 00:44:00,519
those funds were released, and that
was part of the negotiation for the Iran

557
00:44:00,599 --> 00:44:06,079
nuclear deal. That was part of
the equation that everyone agreed to these funds

558
00:44:06,119 --> 00:44:13,760
would be released. Unfortunately, a
lot of bad faith actors in media and

559
00:44:14,639 --> 00:44:22,960
politicians who were arguing against that deal. They I'm not even gonna say they

560
00:44:22,039 --> 00:44:28,199
twisted it. They lied and claimed
over and over again. You could turn

561
00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:35,079
on probably Sean Hannity on any given
day and hear Sean Hannity claiming that the

562
00:44:35,199 --> 00:44:42,480
United States paid all this money.
There were even photoshopped images online today you

563
00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:47,400
could do it with AI. There
were photoshopped images online of an airplane full

564
00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:54,519
of cash that was allegedly about to
be flown overseas to Iran to deliver all

565
00:44:54,559 --> 00:45:00,719
this money that we had paid them, And that was very deceptive, completely

566
00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:04,599
deceptive. That is not what happened. They were frozen assets that had become

567
00:45:04,760 --> 00:45:09,440
unfrozen. So that's an important point. However, having said that, that

568
00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:14,480
doesn't mean that the critics who are
saying that this is effectively a ransom,

569
00:45:14,519 --> 00:45:16,639
that doesn't mean that they're wrong.
And that does get to the part where

570
00:45:17,119 --> 00:45:22,599
I'm a little concerned and I'm I'm
I'm not quite certain about my own position

571
00:45:22,639 --> 00:45:25,559
on this, but I think our
friend Charles is on the line, Hi,

572
00:45:25,719 --> 00:45:31,880
Charles, Hey, what's up?
What's up with you? So that's

573
00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:38,000
this listening, and I kind of
come down to the own conclusion of you

574
00:45:38,119 --> 00:45:44,679
pay a kidnap for a ransom,
They're just gonna go ahead and do it

575
00:45:44,719 --> 00:45:49,199
again because they know you'll pay.
And what's the I mean, what's the

576
00:45:49,199 --> 00:45:53,480
difference now between Iran and prisoners that
we have over there that we want to

577
00:45:53,480 --> 00:46:01,039
get released. You're paying money to
a potential evil tire that we do not

578
00:46:01,159 --> 00:46:06,639
see eye to eye with. You've
given them funds too, and like you've

579
00:46:06,679 --> 00:46:13,320
mentioned, that could definitely fund their
nuclear program, and I mean, what's

580
00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:15,719
what exactly is right about that?
Okay, so we get American streets,

581
00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:21,760
congratulations, But at what cost?
What cost is this? And where's the

582
00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:27,679
whole We don't negotiate with terrorists,
you know rule I mean, am I

583
00:46:27,719 --> 00:46:30,280
onto something? Or am I completely
off base? No? I mean you

584
00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:37,679
are. You're you're making an argument
very much like what a lot of critics

585
00:46:37,719 --> 00:46:42,559
of this arrangement are making. And
there's a there's a lot of merit to

586
00:46:42,599 --> 00:46:46,159
it, which is why, like
I said, I support the deal uh

587
00:46:46,199 --> 00:46:51,480
in principle, but I do have
a lot of ambivalence and I'm conflicted about

588
00:46:51,519 --> 00:46:54,119
it because of the very points that
you just raise, Charles, those are

589
00:46:54,159 --> 00:47:02,239
valid points because does this send a
signal to the Iranians or perhaps other bad

590
00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:07,199
actors in the world that yes,
we are willing to pay ransom now,

591
00:47:07,360 --> 00:47:12,840
and again we should we should be
clear though, we're not actually paying them

592
00:47:12,880 --> 00:47:19,440
money. We're just we're unfrozen.
We're unfreezing frozen assets that were being held

593
00:47:19,599 --> 00:47:23,480
in escrow because of sanctions. We're
releasing that money, which ultimately is supposed

594
00:47:23,480 --> 00:47:29,679
to go to them anyway. But
does that distinction even matter? Is it

595
00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:36,519
still un Can it still be construed
as a ransom payment because they are getting

596
00:47:36,559 --> 00:47:42,119
money for releasing these hostages, And
I think that is. I think that's

597
00:47:42,159 --> 00:47:45,719
a perfectly valid concern to have,
and I'm worried. I am worried about

598
00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:52,320
that because these ones were frozen for
a reason, they have a change or

599
00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:57,000
heart just to go ahead and release
them. That's still money they shouldn't be

600
00:47:57,039 --> 00:48:00,159
getting their hands on if it's frozen
for a reason, and if they broke

601
00:48:00,199 --> 00:48:05,239
a sanction, they should be getting
a B and C. Well, oh

602
00:48:05,320 --> 00:48:08,639
we have an American hostage or American
prisoner. Oh okay, we're released a

603
00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:12,559
B and C for this guy or
these guys, or you know what I'm

604
00:48:12,559 --> 00:48:17,719
saying. They they shouldn't be right, No, very very valid argument.

605
00:48:17,960 --> 00:48:27,880
Now one could say, I'll put
on my diplomacy hat to counter that argument,

606
00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:30,880
I would probably say, and I
say I would probably because again I'm

607
00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:34,519
not firm in my position on this, but I think what I would say

608
00:48:34,639 --> 00:48:38,639
is if I were arguing on behalf
of the Biden administration, that the point

609
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of sanctions is ultimately to try to
change or influence the behavior of the bad

610
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actor whom you have sanctioned. So
if you can get that bad actor to

611
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do something good by either removing the
sanctions or by removing some of the money

612
00:48:58,199 --> 00:49:04,039
that got caught up in the sanctions, then that's good. Otherwise that money

613
00:49:04,079 --> 00:49:08,559
just sits in escrow forever and you're
not doing anything productive with it. Whereas,

614
00:49:08,599 --> 00:49:14,360
if you can get said bad actor
in this case Iran to do something

615
00:49:14,400 --> 00:49:16,920
positive and productive that you want them
to do in exchange for releasing some of

616
00:49:16,920 --> 00:49:22,800
that money, why wouldn't you do
that that I so that would kind of

617
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be the counter argument. Also,
there's uh, the something like a good

618
00:49:28,719 --> 00:49:31,199
something like a good faith payment,
like we'll do this, but you gotta

619
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be good. Yeah, yeah,
you got that. Yeah, we're we're

620
00:49:36,320 --> 00:49:39,119
willing to work with you, but
but you gotta but you gotta do something

621
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to show that you're willing to act
in good faith. I guess that would

622
00:49:44,800 --> 00:49:49,039
be that that that that seems like
handing over your debit card with a lot

623
00:49:49,079 --> 00:49:52,800
of money on it to an ex
girlfriend that's cheated on you ten times.

624
00:49:52,119 --> 00:49:57,320
I don't know, right well,
I don't hand my debit card to anybody

625
00:49:57,320 --> 00:50:02,119
ever. But I mean, yeah, but no, but your points are

626
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very valid, Charles. And like
I said, it's got me, it's

627
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got me conflicted. Yeah, I
hear you. Unless there's something good that

628
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came out of it from us.
I mean, okay, fine, we

629
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released the funds, and unless there's
like a backside agreement that we don't know

630
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about, or maybe a sanction has
been lifted because it was maybe too harsh.

631
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Listen, I agree, America has
been running with an iron fist.

632
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We're the ones that determine the rules
we want, and there's a lot of

633
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stuff that Americans do, or the
American government does to enforce its will.

634
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And I agree that, you know, maybe that iron fist needs to be

635
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let go a little bit and let
countries run the way they want instead of

636
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US always interfering. But I ran
just one of those It's just one of

637
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those countries that man, I don't
know. You give them too much leeway,

638
00:50:52,280 --> 00:50:54,559
you don't know what they're gonna do
that. I don't know if they

639
00:50:54,599 --> 00:50:58,840
could be trusted. Well, the
fear is that you give them too much

640
00:50:58,920 --> 00:51:05,920
leeway and they're gonna start building nukes
with they're enriched uranium, like they haven't

641
00:51:05,920 --> 00:51:10,039
already. Well, as far as
we know, they have not, but

642
00:51:10,159 --> 00:51:15,920
that doesn't mean they won't. Yeah, they they have, they know it,

643
00:51:16,039 --> 00:51:21,760
we know it. Just like you
know, everybody's got nukes. Let's

644
00:51:21,760 --> 00:51:24,760
just put bring it right out there. Everybody's got them. It's just what

645
00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:30,199
are you gonna do with them?
Because we got a ton of them.

646
00:51:30,440 --> 00:51:32,840
Rush's got a ton of them.
Are we gonna use them? No?

647
00:51:34,679 --> 00:51:37,519
Why would we have them if we're
not if we're gonna use them, or

648
00:51:37,559 --> 00:51:40,400
if we're not gonna use them,
well, because if you use it,

649
00:51:40,760 --> 00:51:45,800
then everybody's gonna use it, then
everybody loses. So this, this whole

650
00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:52,559
nuclear war and arms race, this
that I think it's a big belly ache

651
00:51:52,559 --> 00:51:57,639
over nothing, because let's be real, if anybody has any common sense and

652
00:51:57,679 --> 00:52:00,960
that Putin really is going nuts,
you know he'd launch them all if you

653
00:52:01,119 --> 00:52:07,440
really went nuts. I'm just saying
there's there's leaders with common sense, and

654
00:52:07,519 --> 00:52:10,320
yes, that does include Kim John
over there in North Korea. You launch

655
00:52:10,400 --> 00:52:16,039
one nuclear warhead to destroy something,
everybody's launching it, everybody dies. Have

656
00:52:16,119 --> 00:52:23,119
a nice day, mutually assured mutually
assured destruction, also referred to as the

657
00:52:23,159 --> 00:52:30,480
balance of terror. Yes, although
I'll let you go. Although mistakes happen,

658
00:52:30,760 --> 00:52:32,320
mistakes happen too. All right,
Charles, I appreciate the call,

659
00:52:32,320 --> 00:52:37,320
though, Thank you so much.
All Right, you two, bye bye,

660
00:52:37,880 --> 00:52:39,840
all right, very good. Nice
here from Charles Richardson from the Great

661
00:52:39,880 --> 00:52:44,239
State of Florida. And uh yeah, so Charles, it sounds like he

662
00:52:44,320 --> 00:52:49,239
is, uh, he is arguing
against uh this deal. And like I

663
00:52:49,280 --> 00:52:54,079
said, the points that he made
are are absolutely valid. Melanie Liberty and

664
00:52:54,119 --> 00:52:58,280
the chat room says, every time
you say bad actor, I think of

665
00:52:58,360 --> 00:53:02,119
Paris Hilton. All right, here's
what we're gonna do. We're gonna take

666
00:53:02,280 --> 00:53:06,679
a break. We are just past
the top of the hour. I'm gonna

667
00:53:06,679 --> 00:53:10,800
play a track from the band that
was here with us Friday because I love

668
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this so much. The song is
called mental Note. Great track from able

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Blood, who was our musical guest
on Friday. So let's give this a

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listen, and then we're gonna show
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listening to Tuluminate three comments down,
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We are well in our number two
numerow Doose of Matt Connerton Unleashed and we

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are live from the studios of w
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in Glorious at downtown Manchester, New
Hampshire, also on Comcast Channel six.

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If you're in Manchester, and hello
to all of our online listeners across the

699
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nation and around the globe. You
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700
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com for all of your live streaming
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archives, etcetera, etcetera. Today
is Tuesday, September nineteen, two thousand

702
00:56:54,400 --> 00:56:59,920
twenty three, and by the way, it is primary election day here in

703
00:57:00,440 --> 00:57:04,199
Manchester, New Hampshire, so if
you are local in Manchester, polls are

704
00:57:04,239 --> 00:57:07,920
open I believe until seven pm this
evening. Jenny and I went and voted

705
00:57:08,159 --> 00:57:12,400
before the show, and quick and
easy, in and out. It's a

706
00:57:12,480 --> 00:57:16,159
very small ballot. It's a primary
ballot, so so you know not you

707
00:57:16,199 --> 00:57:20,079
don't have to worry about big lines
at the polls or anything like that.

708
00:57:20,119 --> 00:57:22,679
You can get in and out of
there quick. It's very very easy.

709
00:57:22,800 --> 00:57:25,159
So please, if you're thinking about
voting, go ahead and do it.

710
00:57:25,480 --> 00:57:29,679
The weather is perfect, so I
have no excuse. You can't say,

711
00:57:29,719 --> 00:57:34,239
oh it's raining. You can't have
democracy in the rain. No, no,

712
00:57:34,239 --> 00:57:37,119
no, it's a beautiful day outside, so please buy. All means

713
00:57:37,400 --> 00:57:42,159
that's it. I don't like to
try to guilt people into it or whatever.

714
00:57:42,519 --> 00:57:44,239
If you don't, if you really
don't want to do it, then

715
00:57:44,280 --> 00:57:45,880
I don't know what to tell you. But I would encourage you to do

716
00:57:45,920 --> 00:57:50,880
so. But I only mentioned that
it's easy because if you're one of these

717
00:57:50,920 --> 00:57:55,760
people and y'all know who you are, you sit around going I'd like to

718
00:57:55,840 --> 00:58:00,239
vote, but oh, it's such
a pain. No, it's not.

719
00:58:00,679 --> 00:58:04,039
You get there. There's plenty of
parking. I mean, I assume it's

720
00:58:04,039 --> 00:58:07,119
the same in every ward in the
city. I assume. Maybe I shouldn't

721
00:58:07,119 --> 00:58:08,880
assume that, but I'm sure it
is. You go. There's not a

722
00:58:08,880 --> 00:58:13,840
lot of people. It's a primary
election. It's middle of September. There's

723
00:58:13,880 --> 00:58:16,159
not a lot of people. It's
it's you're not gonna be in line for

724
00:58:16,280 --> 00:58:22,719
very long, actually very unlikely,
highly unlikely, you'll be in line at

725
00:58:22,760 --> 00:58:25,079
all. Jenny and I wouldn't voted. There was no line and there were

726
00:58:25,159 --> 00:58:30,800
plenty of voting booths wide open.
Well they have the curtain drawn and then

727
00:58:30,840 --> 00:58:34,519
you know, you go, but
you can see if there's anyone standing in

728
00:58:34,559 --> 00:58:37,519
there anyway. The point is,
couldn't have been simpler, couldn't have been

729
00:58:37,599 --> 00:58:39,519
quicker. We were in and out
of there in like three minutes. I'm

730
00:58:39,519 --> 00:58:45,400
not kidding, So go vote.
Don't be lame. You're lame if you

731
00:58:45,440 --> 00:58:47,480
don't know. I said I wasn't
gonna do that. I said I wasn't

732
00:58:47,480 --> 00:58:52,000
gonna guilt trip anybody. But not
voting is pretty lame though you have to

733
00:58:52,039 --> 00:58:55,480
admit. I mean, unless you
just you know, unless you're not allowed

734
00:58:55,480 --> 00:59:00,599
to vote for whatever reason. But
assume you can. You should anyway,

735
00:59:00,679 --> 00:59:05,039
and you can register. You know, we have same day registration here in

736
00:59:05,079 --> 00:59:07,320
New Hampshire. I think we do
it right. You know, if you

737
00:59:07,320 --> 00:59:09,679
don't have you do have to show
your ID. But if you don't have

738
00:59:09,719 --> 00:59:14,039
an ID, you sign an affidavit
saying that you really are who you are,

739
00:59:14,559 --> 00:59:20,760
so that if there is ever any
reason to challenge your vote in the

740
00:59:20,800 --> 00:59:24,000
future, while you sign something legally
binding saying that you are who you are,

741
00:59:24,360 --> 00:59:28,199
so if you're not really who you
are, that's going to be a

742
00:59:28,239 --> 00:59:30,960
problem for you. And I think
that's a good system. I think we

743
00:59:30,000 --> 00:59:34,719
do it right here in New Hampshire. Scott Robinson joins us in the Facebook

744
00:59:34,719 --> 00:59:37,679
live chat and says, you know
what assuming does, Matt, It makes

745
00:59:37,679 --> 00:59:42,280
an ass out of me and you. Yes, I've heard that several thousand

746
00:59:42,280 --> 00:59:44,760
times, Scott, but thank you. Nice to see you in the Facebook

747
00:59:44,840 --> 00:59:47,880
live chat. If you'd like to
join us on the studio line six zo

748
00:59:47,960 --> 00:59:52,079
three two five h six oz seven
is a studio line six three two five

749
00:59:52,119 --> 00:59:58,440
ozh six O seven operators are standing
by. That's not true. It's really

750
00:59:58,480 --> 01:00:01,199
just me but and I wouldn't have
it any other way. We don't screen

751
01:00:01,239 --> 01:00:07,599
our calls here. We live on
the edge, on the edge of radio.

752
01:00:07,679 --> 01:00:10,880
If there is such a thing that
sounded awkward, edge of radio.

753
01:00:12,639 --> 01:00:17,920
We live on the edge of destruction. No, that's Eve, Eve of

754
01:00:17,960 --> 01:00:24,679
Destruction. I don't know, but
and it's certainly not my favorite Aerosmith song,

755
01:00:24,800 --> 01:00:29,480
Living on the Edge. I thought
that one was a little weak and

756
01:00:29,559 --> 01:00:34,519
the videos unsettling the way it begins. I don't need to see Steven Tyler

757
01:00:35,000 --> 01:00:37,760
in that way. Too much of
him there in the video six three two

758
01:00:37,800 --> 01:00:42,239
five six zero seven. You can
also text me at six one seven nine

759
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I'm on social media at Matt Connerton.

760
01:00:45,320 --> 01:00:49,480
You can email me Matt at Matt
Connerton dot com, and of course you

761
01:00:49,480 --> 01:00:52,239
can interact endo Pine in the Facebook
live chat. But the best thing to

762
01:00:52,239 --> 01:00:57,199
do so that we can hear and
enjoy your dulcet tones is to give us

763
01:00:57,199 --> 01:01:00,199
a call at six zero three two
five zero six O seven. And I

764
01:01:00,239 --> 01:01:04,559
am here all by my lonesome,
so it's a good day to call into

765
01:01:04,559 --> 01:01:07,880
the show. We do have some
great guests, so coming up during the

766
01:01:07,960 --> 01:01:09,639
rest of the week. Tomorrow,
of course is Wednesday, so we have

767
01:01:10,079 --> 01:01:14,440
in the first hour, I'll be
joined by my favorite conservative, Eric Pilcher

768
01:01:14,760 --> 01:01:17,519
from Cedar Rapids, Iowa via Skype. And then we've got a great musical

769
01:01:17,559 --> 01:01:22,800
guest in the second hour tomorrow,
Marvel Prone. We'll be here with us

770
01:01:22,880 --> 01:01:25,639
live in studio. Thursday on the
show, our musical guest is Iron Jaw,

771
01:01:25,840 --> 01:01:30,800
a great band from Texas. And
then Friday we have a live in

772
01:01:30,840 --> 01:01:35,000
studio Crooked Cash. We'll be returning
to the show. So lots going on

773
01:01:35,320 --> 01:01:38,280
this week on the program. And
today on the show, we've been talking

774
01:01:38,280 --> 01:01:45,039
about the deal, the deal that
we made with Iran to get five prisoners

775
01:01:45,440 --> 01:01:51,039
out of their out of prison in
Iran, and we've been talking about that.

776
01:01:51,079 --> 01:01:52,920
We've spent a lot of time on
that, well actually all the time

777
01:01:53,000 --> 01:01:57,400
really in the first hour, and
we will spend some more time on it

778
01:01:57,440 --> 01:02:00,159
now because it's a big subject and
I do want to hear from you six

779
01:02:00,400 --> 01:02:04,880
three two five O six zero seven
if you are just joining us. I

780
01:02:04,920 --> 01:02:10,559
did establish during the first hour my
position on this is I'm in favor of

781
01:02:10,599 --> 01:02:15,039
it. But part of why I
wanted to discuss this today and really get

782
01:02:15,079 --> 01:02:21,679
into it in some depth is it
is an issue that while I'm in favor

783
01:02:21,760 --> 01:02:24,199
of the deal and I support the
deal that the Biden administration has made in

784
01:02:24,239 --> 01:02:31,679
this instance, I do so with
some degree of ambivalence. I understand the

785
01:02:31,800 --> 01:02:37,719
arguments against it, and I do
think they have merit. So while I

786
01:02:37,800 --> 01:02:45,679
basically do support this this decision,
I am very much open to. I

787
01:02:45,679 --> 01:02:47,880
mean, I try to always be
open to arguments from the other side of

788
01:02:47,920 --> 01:02:53,239
things, but on this issue in
particular, i'm very I am persuadable,

789
01:02:53,880 --> 01:02:58,039
let's put it that way, by
some of the counter arguments that I've heard.

790
01:02:58,519 --> 01:03:00,400
Our friend Charles Richardson had called her
in the first hour, and he

791
01:03:00,440 --> 01:03:04,719
said a lot of what other critics
are saying about the steal, for example,

792
01:03:05,400 --> 01:03:12,480
that does making a deal like this, Does this actually encourage countries like

793
01:03:12,639 --> 01:03:16,840
Iran and others to take Americans hostage
because they know that we'll pay some sort

794
01:03:16,840 --> 01:03:22,559
of ransom. Is this helping to
set up a structure where globally it becomes

795
01:03:22,559 --> 01:03:25,320
open season. Oh you know,
you can take an American hostage and they'll

796
01:03:25,320 --> 01:03:30,239
pay for it. So which I
think, again a very valid concern to

797
01:03:30,280 --> 01:03:35,519
have, and I do think that
argument has merit. That's what Chris Christie,

798
01:03:35,599 --> 01:03:39,679
of course U Republican candidate for the
presidency, not that he's going to

799
01:03:39,679 --> 01:03:43,719
be the nominee obviously, but he
continues to do well in the polls here

800
01:03:43,719 --> 01:03:49,119
in New Hampshire, but defining well, as you know, a very very

801
01:03:49,280 --> 01:03:53,000
very very very distant second to Trump. But Christie did overtake to Santis but

802
01:03:53,719 --> 01:03:57,800
here in New Hampshire. But uh, you know that that's been his argument.

803
01:03:57,840 --> 01:04:02,880
He says, Look, this set
it's a terrible precedent. So we've

804
01:04:02,920 --> 01:04:06,559
been discussing this today. It's a
big subject. It's complex. Again.

805
01:04:08,760 --> 01:04:15,039
I fall on the side of supporting
this action, but I have some I'm

806
01:04:15,079 --> 01:04:19,039
conflicted. I have some doubts,
I have some concerns, and I do

807
01:04:19,159 --> 01:04:25,239
think that the arguments in the other
direction are again very valid and have a

808
01:04:25,280 --> 01:04:29,199
lot of merits. So that's what
I think makes it such an interesting subject

809
01:04:29,320 --> 01:04:31,840
to me, at least perhaps selfishly, but to me, the most interesting

810
01:04:31,880 --> 01:04:38,639
subjects to discuss on the show are
the ones where you know, I'm either

811
01:04:38,719 --> 01:04:42,079
not sure how I feel, or
I do think I know how I feel,

812
01:04:42,119 --> 01:04:46,400
but but I have some doubts.
That makes me want to hear arguments

813
01:04:46,440 --> 01:04:50,840
either pro or con or maybe some
of you are you have that same sort

814
01:04:50,880 --> 01:04:54,960
of ambivalence about it that I do, where you feel one way a little

815
01:04:54,960 --> 01:04:59,159
bit more than the other, but
you're not entirely convinced. Six zero three

816
01:04:59,239 --> 01:05:01,480
two five h six zero seven.
If you would like to chime in on

817
01:05:01,519 --> 01:05:12,039
this, this is the article that
CNN has up about this. Five American

818
01:05:12,079 --> 01:05:15,880
prisoners were freed by Iran on Monday, and a Qatar mediated deal that also

819
01:05:15,920 --> 01:05:20,320
included the transfer of some six billion
dollars in frozen Iranian funds and the release

820
01:05:20,360 --> 01:05:26,760
of five Iranian prisoners in the United
States. The careful, choreographed agreement was

821
01:05:26,840 --> 01:05:30,960
years in the making and is being
seen as a major diplomatic breakthrough for the

822
01:05:30,000 --> 01:05:33,800
two foes, but in a sign
that the pact is no indication of a

823
01:05:33,840 --> 01:05:41,559
wider thought in relations, a senior
Biden administration officials said that the deal quote

824
01:05:41,639 --> 01:05:45,800
has not changed our relationship with Iran
in any way unquote. Soon after the

825
01:05:45,840 --> 01:05:51,719
American prisoners took off from Iran,
the Biden administration slapped new sanctions on the

826
01:05:51,840 --> 01:05:59,599
regime. The prisoner deal is,
however, an example of a new method

827
01:05:59,599 --> 01:06:04,599
of written arrangements between Washington and Tehran, analyst say, and Tarran of course

828
01:06:04,599 --> 01:06:11,280
the capital of Iran. If you
don't know where smaller mutual concessions are exchanged

829
01:06:11,360 --> 01:06:15,280
in the absence of a wider formal
agreement like the one reached in twenty fifteen

830
01:06:15,320 --> 01:06:20,639
and abandoned by the Trump administration in
twenty eighteen. That's the JCPOA, of

831
01:06:20,679 --> 01:06:27,440
course, also commonly referred to as
the Iran Nuclear Deal. A new wide

832
01:06:27,519 --> 01:06:30,800
ranging agreement may be difficult for both
both sides to achieve as the US heads

833
01:06:30,840 --> 01:06:34,480
to presidential elections in November twenty twenty
four, and I talked about that earlier

834
01:06:34,519 --> 01:06:36,159
in the show, in the first
hour two. I don't see how we're

835
01:06:36,159 --> 01:06:40,880
ever going to get the Iranians back
to the table after, you know,

836
01:06:41,000 --> 01:06:46,119
if if they know, as they
know from recent precedent, yeah, we

837
01:06:46,199 --> 01:06:49,880
can negotiate a deal with them.
The current administration can negotiate a deal with

838
01:06:49,920 --> 01:06:54,400
them. But that doesn't mean that
the next administration is not going to come

839
01:06:54,440 --> 01:06:57,199
in and say, no, never
mind, we don't like this and we're

840
01:06:57,199 --> 01:07:03,239
walking away, it says here.
Such a pact would likely face resistance from

841
01:07:03,280 --> 01:07:08,840
Congress, whose approval it would need, and from Iran's perspective, efforts to

842
01:07:08,880 --> 01:07:13,119
forge a new pact with a US
administration that could potentially be ousted in those

843
01:07:13,119 --> 01:07:18,159
elections would be feudal if the next
president abandons it. The Biden administration is

844
01:07:18,239 --> 01:07:24,760
unlikely to engage in meaningful revival of
the twenty fifteen nuclear deal, said Sonam

845
01:07:25,719 --> 01:07:30,719
the Kill, director of the Middle
East and North Africa Program at the Chatham

846
01:07:30,760 --> 01:07:35,920
House think tank in London. She
said, quote instead, it is already

847
01:07:35,960 --> 01:07:42,360
agreed to an understanding that is unwritten, where Iran is rolling back uranium enrichment

848
01:07:42,519 --> 01:07:47,079
in exchange, the Biden administration is
looking away and allowing Iran to increase its

849
01:07:47,119 --> 01:07:59,320
oil sales unque that allegedly Melanie,
what you said in the chat room allegedly

850
01:08:00,360 --> 01:08:01,960
pictures or it didn't happen. That's
what the young people say. I think

851
01:08:04,599 --> 01:08:09,320
the deal comes amid a significant dialing
back of tensions between Iran and the US.

852
01:08:09,320 --> 01:08:14,039
In recent months, attacks by Iran
and its proxies on US interests in

853
01:08:14,079 --> 01:08:17,319
the Middle East have almost ceased.
That's true. They have settled down,

854
01:08:17,359 --> 01:08:23,399
haven't they. The Iranians and Iran's
oil exports have risen despite Western sanctions on

855
01:08:23,439 --> 01:08:28,359
its oil industry. Meanwhile, Iran's
uranium enrichmond under its nuclear program has reportedly

856
01:08:28,520 --> 01:08:35,800
slowed. Ali Vayez Ali VIA's Iran
project director at the International Crisis Group think

857
01:08:35,800 --> 01:08:42,439
tank, said a de escalatory understanding
between Washington and Tehran has created a more

858
01:08:42,479 --> 01:08:47,159
stable context for progress, calling it
a no deal, no crisis status quo.

859
01:08:47,880 --> 01:08:53,439
Iran has been slowing down the pace
at which it is enriching the uranium

860
01:08:53,560 --> 01:08:59,600
its uranium to weapons grade levels,
several US outlets reported last week citing a

861
01:08:59,680 --> 01:09:05,520
confident I'm sorry a confidential report by
the UN Nuclear energy watchdog the International Atomic

862
01:09:05,640 --> 01:09:10,880
Energy Agency YA. At the same
time, and by the way, they're

863
01:09:10,880 --> 01:09:15,960
responsible for doing the inspections to make
sure that they're not doing anything that violates

864
01:09:16,000 --> 01:09:21,840
the deal. Melanie said, what
he gets to make stuff up, but

865
01:09:21,880 --> 01:09:28,199
I can't. I call bs alternate
facts, I say to you. At

866
01:09:28,199 --> 01:09:34,000
the same time, Iran has been
boasting higher oil output and exports despite Western

867
01:09:34,079 --> 01:09:43,840
sanctions. Iran's Minister of Petroleum Yavid
Augie, on Sunday said that Western sanctions

868
01:09:43,840 --> 01:09:48,880
are gradually losing their effectiveness. That's
interesting. It gets into the weeds a

869
01:09:48,920 --> 01:09:54,079
little bit here on the oil production
part. Okay, let's skip down to

870
01:09:54,119 --> 01:09:59,600
this here again. This is from
CNN. Lack of trust, even an

871
01:09:59,640 --> 01:10:04,079
unwrit arrangement can prove delicate, analysts
say, given the ongoing disputes between the

872
01:10:04,119 --> 01:10:09,399
two nations, that could undermine the
recent reduction intentions. Trust between the two

873
01:10:09,439 --> 01:10:14,600
sides appears to be week two.
Western frustration with Iran is mounted. Over

874
01:10:14,640 --> 01:10:19,119
the past year. The Islamic Republic
has sold drones to Russia amid its war

875
01:10:19,279 --> 01:10:27,159
on Ukraine, and is violently crushed
protests at home against the mandatory hijab law

876
01:10:27,319 --> 01:10:32,439
drawing Western ire to Ran Is also
informed the IAEA that it will bar several

877
01:10:32,479 --> 01:10:42,920
agency inspectors tasked with conducting verification activities
in Iran IAEA director Raphael Mariano Grossi Toll

878
01:10:43,319 --> 01:10:53,159
said Saturday, strongly condemning Iran's decision. Iranian Foreign Minister spokesman Nasir Kanaani on

879
01:10:53,199 --> 01:10:57,840
Sunday said his country would continue its
cooperation with Nuclear watchdog within the framework of

880
01:10:57,880 --> 01:11:00,720
the signed agreements, without providing details. Now, by the way, that's

881
01:11:00,760 --> 01:11:05,399
interesting, so I learned something from
that. It sounds like there has still

882
01:11:05,439 --> 01:11:09,760
been some adherents to the Iran nuclear
deal even though the US pulled out of

883
01:11:09,760 --> 01:11:13,359
it. I know that when after
we pulled out, Europe said we're staying

884
01:11:13,359 --> 01:11:15,560
in and we're going to encourage Iran
to stay in, and I thought that

885
01:11:15,600 --> 01:11:19,039
it all kind of disintegrated. But
it sounds from this, if I'm understanding

886
01:11:19,039 --> 01:11:23,279
this correctly, there was still something
there. But now Iran is saying,

887
01:11:23,319 --> 01:11:27,800
well, no, we're not going
to let the IAEA and consistently after all,

888
01:11:28,319 --> 01:11:30,600
which would make me very suspicious.
It says here. Under Monday's agreement,

889
01:11:30,880 --> 01:11:34,760
which has already prompted criticism from the
US Republican Party, Iran can only

890
01:11:34,880 --> 01:11:42,560
use the released funds for humanitarian purposes. Biden administration officials have stressed that the

891
01:11:42,640 --> 01:11:46,319
funds, which have been transferred to
accounts in Qatar, will only be able

892
01:11:46,359 --> 01:11:51,840
to be used by Iran for humanitarian
purchases, and that each transaction will be

893
01:11:51,920 --> 01:12:03,800
monitored by the US Treasury Department.
That some of the criticism of this deal

894
01:12:03,920 --> 01:12:10,439
that I do think has merit is
about that part specifically. There is some

895
01:12:10,560 --> 01:12:15,439
skepticism about how that all works.
But we'll come back to that, But

896
01:12:15,760 --> 01:12:25,920
it says here. In an interview
with NBC last week, Iranian President Ibrahim

897
01:12:26,039 --> 01:12:31,560
Rice said his government would decide how
and where to spend the six billion dollars.

898
01:12:32,239 --> 01:12:35,720
Asked if the funds would be used
for humanitarian purposes, including food and

899
01:12:35,760 --> 01:12:41,840
medicine, Rice said that, quote, humanitarian means whatever the Iranian people needs,

900
01:12:42,199 --> 01:12:44,920
So this money will be budgeted for
those needs, and the needs of

901
01:12:44,960 --> 01:12:59,159
the Iranian people will be decided and
determined by the Iranian government unquote. There's

902
01:12:59,199 --> 01:13:01,199
also some expation here. Again it
gets into a little bit into the weeds

903
01:13:01,199 --> 01:13:04,840
about how the Qataris will be controlling. First of all, it's not like

904
01:13:04,880 --> 01:13:10,239
all that money gets released at once, and the Qataris will be in control,

905
01:13:11,560 --> 01:13:15,960
continuing in their role as sort of
intermediary and almost like they're controlling the

906
01:13:16,000 --> 01:13:20,680
bank here, they're in charge of
releasing that money over time. It's not

907
01:13:21,279 --> 01:13:24,359
you know, it's like when you
win the lottery. If you win the

908
01:13:24,359 --> 01:13:28,640
lottery and you win six billion dollars, you don't just get it all at

909
01:13:28,680 --> 01:13:30,159
once, or you could. I
think they give you a choice. You

910
01:13:30,199 --> 01:13:33,640
can get all at once or over
time. It says here. When the

911
01:13:33,720 --> 01:13:38,479
Uranians request the money to purchase food
and medicine, for example, approval will

912
01:13:38,479 --> 01:13:43,920
have to be sought from the US
before the purchases go through, adding that

913
01:13:43,960 --> 01:13:47,600
the terms of the agreement are so
strict on Iran that they are humiliating.

914
01:13:48,239 --> 01:13:53,800
Parsi said, quote the biggest thing
this administration fears is to be accused of

915
01:13:53,800 --> 01:13:57,359
being soft on Iran. In order
to balance the fact that they made a

916
01:13:57,439 --> 01:14:00,319
deal to secure the release of Americans, they're imposing sanctions and doing things that

917
01:14:00,439 --> 01:14:08,760
make them look really tough. Unquote. Okay, the part about this is

918
01:14:08,800 --> 01:14:13,399
again one of the criticisms of the
deal that we're hearing, the part about,

919
01:14:13,560 --> 01:14:16,479
Okay, we're letting them have the
money, we're unfreezing the money,

920
01:14:16,560 --> 01:14:19,960
but they can only use it for
specific things. They can only use it

921
01:14:19,960 --> 01:14:26,399
for humanitarian purposes because we don't want
them doing the obvious, which is to

922
01:14:26,439 --> 01:14:29,119
say, hey, let's use this
money to build a bunch of nukes in

923
01:14:29,159 --> 01:14:33,680
other words, or let's build let's
use this money to manufacture some more drones

924
01:14:33,760 --> 01:14:40,159
that we can then sell to Vladimir
Putin for his war in Ukraine, for

925
01:14:40,199 --> 01:14:45,720
example. Or hey, let's use
this money to fund some terrorism. No,

926
01:14:45,960 --> 01:14:50,479
you have to use it for humanitarian
purposes. The criticism of that that

927
01:14:50,520 --> 01:14:59,079
I'm hearing is even though there is
a system, there is a structure in

928
01:14:59,199 --> 01:15:04,800
place to monitor that, and the
release of funds has to be approved,

929
01:15:04,840 --> 01:15:13,680
and there's a whole system here,
it's got to I can't imagine there aren't

930
01:15:13,720 --> 01:15:17,800
going to be ways to easily get
around that, you know, with some

931
01:15:17,880 --> 01:15:30,479
creative bookkeeping. Uh you know,
probably maybe some some similar approaches to it.

932
01:15:30,680 --> 01:15:32,760
And in terms of you know how
they do it, how organized crime,

933
01:15:33,560 --> 01:15:40,640
uh, how they do it where
uh money isn't always uh well,

934
01:15:40,640 --> 01:15:43,359
look, I mean have you ever
watched The Sopranos. I think it's the

935
01:15:43,359 --> 01:15:46,199
greatest show in the history of television. You know, a lot of creativity

936
01:15:46,239 --> 01:15:51,560
in the bookkeeping. Right, There's
there's ways around, Uh. If money

937
01:15:51,680 --> 01:15:54,720
is only supposed to go to a
certain thing and you want to make it

938
01:15:54,760 --> 01:15:59,840
look like it went to something else. You can do that. The thing

939
01:16:00,159 --> 01:16:08,000
is too if let's say, this
is a very easy way around this,

940
01:16:08,039 --> 01:16:11,199
and I'm sure the Iranians are already
I'm sure they've already got this planned.

941
01:16:12,199 --> 01:16:15,319
Let's say, Okay, so you've
got the money's not all being released at

942
01:16:15,319 --> 01:16:20,199
once. So let's say you got
a million dollars. You just got a

943
01:16:20,239 --> 01:16:24,960
million dollars that you can get access
to that's going to be released, but

944
01:16:25,000 --> 01:16:29,640
it can only be used for humanitarian
purposes at first million dollars. So we're

945
01:16:29,640 --> 01:16:32,840
going to release the first million of
the six billion. We're going to release

946
01:16:32,880 --> 01:16:35,039
the first million, and see what
you do with it, and are you

947
01:16:35,079 --> 01:16:40,840
acting in good faith? So that
money is released, and they do they

948
01:16:40,920 --> 01:16:44,439
use it for humanitarian purposes. But
here's the thing, so they use it

949
01:16:44,479 --> 01:16:46,279
too, well, let's make it
really simple. They use it to buy

950
01:16:46,279 --> 01:16:54,800
food. The Iranian economy is not
doing great. Probably food insecurity is very

951
01:16:54,880 --> 01:17:00,199
high there right now. So they
I don't have any idea what they have

952
01:17:00,239 --> 01:17:03,319
for social programs there, but let's
say they have a Let's assume they have

953
01:17:03,319 --> 01:17:09,039
a program to feed starving people so
they're gonna so, all right, we

954
01:17:09,119 --> 01:17:15,039
gotta take that million dollars and use
it to buy food for these starving people.

955
01:17:15,159 --> 01:17:23,159
But they're already spending a million dollars
on that program, coming from somewhere

956
01:17:23,159 --> 01:17:27,760
else in their budget. But now
they don't have to spend that million dollars

957
01:17:27,800 --> 01:17:33,399
that they've been spending. They can
spend a different million dollars. They can

958
01:17:33,439 --> 01:17:39,960
spend the million dollars that's being released
to them by the Qataris, thus leaving

959
01:17:40,000 --> 01:17:44,359
the million that they would have spent
untouched, which they can now then take

960
01:17:44,399 --> 01:17:50,279
that untouched million and go buy a
bunch of drones to sell the Russia at

961
01:17:50,279 --> 01:17:56,600
a profit, or go and build
some nukes or whatever they're gonna do.

962
01:17:56,640 --> 01:18:02,239
You see what I'm saying. Okay, we're gonna give you this money to

963
01:18:02,319 --> 01:18:09,119
use for humanitarian purposes, so you
don't have to spend the other money that

964
01:18:09,159 --> 01:18:13,399
you would have already had to spend
on those same purposes, thus allowing you

965
01:18:13,439 --> 01:18:17,119
to spend that other money that you
would have spent on humanitarian purposes to spend

966
01:18:17,159 --> 01:18:20,800
on something bad that we'd rather not
be doing. See what I mean,

967
01:18:23,479 --> 01:18:29,720
it's the easiest, it's unless I'm
missing something here. It seems to me

968
01:18:29,880 --> 01:18:36,239
like this is going to be very
easy for them to get around unless I

969
01:18:36,239 --> 01:18:44,720
mean, it's almost like a way
of laundering money in a sense. Right.

970
01:18:45,319 --> 01:18:48,920
Anyway, so the skepticism, Oh, j FED says they wouldn't do

971
01:18:49,000 --> 01:19:00,119
that. No, we can trust
them. So anyway, that part that,

972
01:19:00,119 --> 01:19:06,560
that's one of the criticisms. Now, we were looking earlier at this

973
01:19:06,680 --> 01:19:23,840
USA Today article that explains some of
the criticism. Okay, so prisoner exchange

974
01:19:23,840 --> 01:19:28,880
rewards to run for imprisoning Americans.
Biden's critics say the number of Americans who

975
01:19:28,880 --> 01:19:32,399
are being health hostage or are wrongfully
detained abroad is unknown. The James W.

976
01:19:32,680 --> 01:19:40,840
Fully Legacy Foundation is tracking fifty five
publicly disclosed cases. While terrorists kidnappings

977
01:19:40,840 --> 01:19:45,520
have declined in recent years, the
organization found foreign governments have been increasingly wrongfully

978
01:19:45,600 --> 01:19:51,159
detaining US citizens for more than a
decade. House Foreign Affairs Chairman Michael McCall,

979
01:19:51,279 --> 01:19:56,720
Republican of Texas, said he was
very concerned the six billion dollars will

980
01:19:56,760 --> 01:20:02,199
incentivize hostage taken in the future,
and that we discussed her earlier. McCall

981
01:20:02,279 --> 01:20:06,279
said in a Monday statement. Quote. Even though the administration claims these funds

982
01:20:06,319 --> 01:20:12,640
are limited to humanitarian transactions. We
all know that transactions are difficult to monitor

983
01:20:12,760 --> 01:20:17,920
and that money is fungible. He's
not wrong, That's the point I was

984
01:20:17,960 --> 01:20:23,119
just making. You can account for
things creatively, you can do all kinds

985
01:20:23,159 --> 01:20:26,239
of stuff. It's going to be
very difficult to manage that, to monitor

986
01:20:26,279 --> 01:20:29,399
that. Rather. He also said, quote, there was no question this

987
01:20:29,479 --> 01:20:33,960
deal will free up funds for Iran's
malign activities unquote. The Biden administration is

988
01:20:34,000 --> 01:20:40,119
insisting that the funds which came from
Iranian oil revenues parked and overseas bank accounts,

989
01:20:40,359 --> 01:20:45,359
can only be used for humanitarian purposes. Nevertheless, Republicans are not confident

990
01:20:45,399 --> 01:20:51,880
the money will be used for purchasing
food and medicines. Critics were further incensed

991
01:20:51,960 --> 01:20:59,920
after the Iranian presidents at his government
would determine what constituted humanitarian aid quote humanity

992
01:21:00,000 --> 01:21:03,920
are means whatever the Iranian people need
unquote. The president of Iran told NBC

993
01:21:04,079 --> 01:21:06,960
News in an interview with you,
by the way, that might be,

994
01:21:09,880 --> 01:21:15,520
I don't know. I don't know
anything about the president of Iran. Rac

995
01:21:15,760 --> 01:21:16,880
Is that how you say it,
Racey Racy? I don't know how you

996
01:21:16,920 --> 01:21:28,520
say it, r Ai Si that
if if you want to take him at

997
01:21:28,560 --> 01:21:30,920
his word, well, let me
put it this way. If you want

998
01:21:30,960 --> 01:21:36,920
to believe that he is a good
faith actor in all of this, you

999
01:21:38,000 --> 01:21:41,319
might say, I'm not saying this. I'm saying if you want to believe

1000
01:21:41,319 --> 01:21:44,079
that he is a good faith actor
in all of this, you might make

1001
01:21:44,119 --> 01:21:46,560
the argument that he is saying this
for the benefit of those watching in Iran.

1002
01:21:47,039 --> 01:21:51,640
Because remember, in Iran it's you
know, state controlled media, just

1003
01:21:51,720 --> 01:21:57,800
like in Russia. Right, That's
why Russians broadly support the war in Ukraine

1004
01:21:58,279 --> 01:22:00,640
because the media and Russia tell them, yeah, Ukraine, they were going

1005
01:22:00,680 --> 01:22:05,920
to New Cus or something, we
had to go in. Obviously, it's

1006
01:22:05,960 --> 01:22:12,159
bs same thing in Iran. So
is he saying that for their benefit when

1007
01:22:12,199 --> 01:22:16,199
in reality he intends to adhere to
the agreement. Now I don't believe he

1008
01:22:16,359 --> 01:22:19,239
intends to adhere to the agreement,
but I'm just saying if I were to

1009
01:22:19,239 --> 01:22:24,359
try to argue that he did,
that's how I would do it. In

1010
01:22:24,399 --> 01:22:28,560
an interview with USA today ahead of
the prisoner swap, US Ambassador to the

1011
01:22:28,680 --> 01:22:33,199
UN Linda Thomas Greenfield said the US
has been categoric that it will control how

1012
01:22:33,199 --> 01:22:36,920
the funds are used. To quote, they will be for humanitarian purposes.

1013
01:22:38,239 --> 01:22:44,840
I have no doubt unquote. President
Donald Trump withdrew from the US with through

1014
01:22:44,880 --> 01:22:49,640
the US. He hasn't withdrawn from
the US. I'm sorry, and I

1015
01:22:49,680 --> 01:22:58,479
don't think he's a flight risk.
Uh sorry, a little reference to h

1016
01:22:58,800 --> 01:23:03,000
some of his own legal problems.
He withdrew the US from the nuclear deal

1017
01:23:03,079 --> 01:23:09,039
that the Obama administration entered into with
Europe in twenty fifteen. The former president

1018
01:23:09,119 --> 01:23:14,880
also reimposed stiff sanctions on Iran.
Republicans generally support the use of sticks rather

1019
01:23:14,920 --> 01:23:18,239
than carrots when it comes to Iran
and argue that deals like the one Biden

1020
01:23:18,279 --> 01:23:24,119
broker project weakness. In social media
posts, parts of which were all in

1021
01:23:24,239 --> 01:23:28,760
caps, that's kind of his thing. Trump argued Monday that Biden was getting

1022
01:23:29,119 --> 01:23:32,079
I'm sorry, I was setting a
terrible precedent and once you pay, you

1023
01:23:32,199 --> 01:23:39,720
always pay, and many more hostages
will be taken. Backers of Biden's deal

1024
01:23:39,800 --> 01:23:44,119
see the return this week of the
five Americans as evidence that the previous administration's

1025
01:23:44,119 --> 01:23:48,840
maximum pressure campaign on Iran was not
constructive and that Biden's policy of pairing of

1026
01:23:48,880 --> 01:23:55,199
diplomatic negotiations with sanctions is more likely
to produce better cooperation from Tehran. I

1027
01:23:55,279 --> 01:24:00,279
do agree with that, and that's
part of why I kind of land on

1028
01:24:00,520 --> 01:24:03,800
as much as I'm as much as
I'm conflicted on the issue, I kind

1029
01:24:03,840 --> 01:24:08,800
of land on the side of the
administration on this because I do agree the

1030
01:24:08,840 --> 01:24:15,520
maximum pressure approach never it never yielded
anything. You don't get anything from that

1031
01:24:15,600 --> 01:24:19,119
other than you keep pushing. You
know, if you want your enemy,

1032
01:24:19,760 --> 01:24:28,760
your adversary to do something, to
do something constructive and productive and useful or

1033
01:24:28,960 --> 01:24:35,079
positive, and you're you're not going
to change their behavior by just by continuing

1034
01:24:35,119 --> 01:24:41,000
to push them away and trying to
hurt them. You've got to find some

1035
01:24:41,079 --> 01:24:47,359
way diplomatically to get them to modify
their behavior. So the maximum pressure campaign

1036
01:24:48,000 --> 01:24:53,319
it all it does is push them, push your opponent, in this case

1037
01:24:53,359 --> 01:24:59,439
Iran, further into extremism and wanting
to pursue becoming a full fledged nuclear power.

1038
01:24:59,560 --> 01:25:08,760
That's that's my opinion, said Mohammed
Marandi, an adviser to Iran's government

1039
01:25:08,800 --> 01:25:13,399
on nuclear and foreign policy issues,
said in a brief what'sapp message that the

1040
01:25:13,399 --> 01:25:17,479
prisoner exchange represented an opportunity for the
US to cooperate further with Iran in other

1041
01:25:17,560 --> 01:25:23,760
areas. However, Randi said that
from Iran's perspective, quote, it's unclear

1042
01:25:23,920 --> 01:25:30,439
if Team Biden has the political will
to use this opportunity unquote. Biden's foreign

1043
01:25:30,520 --> 01:25:36,560
policy towards America's enemies hinges on establishing
open lines of communication to avoid misunderstandings,

1044
01:25:36,600 --> 01:25:41,520
but he is running for reelection and
cannot afford to lose support from swing voters

1045
01:25:41,520 --> 01:25:47,279
who cast their ballots for him against
Trump in the last election. Samak Namazi,

1046
01:25:47,840 --> 01:25:53,199
one of the Americans released, encouraged
Biden on Monday to use the bully

1047
01:25:53,239 --> 01:25:57,079
pulpit from the United Nations this week
to prevent hostage taking from happening in the

1048
01:25:57,119 --> 01:26:02,319
first place. Namazi, in a
statement, quote, it is only if

1049
01:26:02,359 --> 01:26:08,760
the free world finally agrees to collectively
impose draconian consequences on those who use human

1050
01:26:08,840 --> 01:26:14,279
lives as mere bargaining ships that the
Iranian regime and its ILK will be compelled

1051
01:26:14,399 --> 01:26:19,399
to make different choices. Sadly,
until then, we can anticipate more Americans

1052
01:26:19,399 --> 01:26:25,600
and others falling victim to state hostage
taking, a horror that thanks to you,

1053
01:26:25,960 --> 01:26:30,640
my family and I will strive to
put behind us. Starting today,

1054
01:26:30,840 --> 01:26:35,439
Biden was already clashing with Congressional Republicans
over Ukraine and the slow pace of the

1055
01:26:35,439 --> 01:26:40,479
counter offensive. The administration is in
a standoff with Republicans in the House over

1056
01:26:40,520 --> 01:26:45,439
twenty point six billion dollars in funding
for Ukraine it asked for over the summer.

1057
01:26:45,920 --> 01:26:48,720
The money is intended to support Ukraine's
military and humanitarian efforts through the end

1058
01:26:48,720 --> 01:26:51,520
of the calendar year. With the
fiscal year coming to a close at the

1059
01:26:51,600 --> 01:26:56,119
end of September, however, the
US government could be headed for a shutdown,

1060
01:26:56,399 --> 01:27:03,600
fueled in part by utes over the
request. Republicans and Congress are divided

1061
01:27:03,640 --> 01:27:06,600
over whether it is of idal US
interest to keep funding the war, and

1062
01:27:06,640 --> 01:27:12,439
even among those who do support the
aid, Biden has come under criticism for

1063
01:27:12,479 --> 01:27:17,600
refusing to provide Kiev with long range
weapons sooner. Biden can't win on that.

1064
01:27:17,640 --> 01:27:21,319
I mean, you know, in
the UN speech today the US President

1065
01:27:21,319 --> 01:27:25,159
will again. Okay, this was
before Biden already spoke at the UN.

1066
01:27:25,199 --> 01:27:30,359
I heard some of it, but
I was falling asleep listening to him one

1067
01:27:30,399 --> 01:27:33,960
other quick thing on this, and
I just happened to see that This just

1068
01:27:34,039 --> 01:27:40,199
popped up on media. Trevor Reid, a Marine vet held captive by Russia,

1069
01:27:40,600 --> 01:27:44,239
shuts down critics of Iran hostage deal, saying this was a win.

1070
01:27:44,840 --> 01:27:48,720
So here this is an argument on
the pro deal side. Trevor Reid,

1071
01:27:48,760 --> 01:27:54,159
who was unlawfully detained in Russia in
twenty nineteen and released in twenty twenty two,

1072
01:27:54,439 --> 01:27:59,079
had supportive words for President Joe Biden
and his administration following the release of

1073
01:27:59,079 --> 01:28:02,359
five American prison who had been imprisoned
in Iran. Biden has been criticized for

1074
01:28:02,399 --> 01:28:08,720
the seemingly uneven trade, which saw
five Iranians released in exchange as well as

1075
01:28:08,960 --> 01:28:14,199
six billion dollars of frozen funds.
While it has been explained repeatedly that the

1076
01:28:14,199 --> 01:28:17,800
funds already belonged to Iran and we're
not some ransom provided by American taxpayers,

1077
01:28:18,279 --> 01:28:23,199
plus the stipulation that the funds be
spent on humanitarian efforts and that spending would

1078
01:28:23,199 --> 01:28:26,720
be monitored, critics still said it
would mean open season on Americans traveling abroad

1079
01:28:26,760 --> 01:28:30,159
in the future. Read knows a
few things about this situation, however,

1080
01:28:30,640 --> 01:28:36,079
and offered up a more seasoned explanation
on social media, concluding that the trade

1081
01:28:36,279 --> 01:28:42,600
was quote a win for the US
and democracy, and I'm glad we have

1082
01:28:42,720 --> 01:28:45,720
leaders with the courage to do what
is right when they know they will face

1083
01:28:45,760 --> 01:28:51,479
criticism unquote. All right, So
here's I'm gonna read it. And by

1084
01:28:51,479 --> 01:28:55,560
the way, I did not get
a chance to preread any of this,

1085
01:28:56,800 --> 01:29:01,000
no pun intended, because his name
is read Rever Reid. I've not seen

1086
01:29:01,039 --> 01:29:04,479
any of this, so I'll be
hearing this for the first time myself.

1087
01:29:05,479 --> 01:29:12,960
Okay, So this is Trevor Reid's
statement. Congratulations are our citizens being freed

1088
01:29:13,039 --> 01:29:18,680
from Iran. Those of you would
say we lost this exchange would do well

1089
01:29:18,720 --> 01:29:23,840
to remember that the US government is
willing to bring back hostages when it may

1090
01:29:23,880 --> 01:29:30,079
not be financially or politically lucrative for
the administration, or even disadvantageous politically.

1091
01:29:30,920 --> 01:29:34,520
That is what separates us from the
animals and what makes the United States a

1092
01:29:34,520 --> 01:29:41,479
great country. The Russians, the
Iranians, the Chinese, the Venezuelans,

1093
01:29:41,760 --> 01:29:45,319
the Syrians, the North Koreans would
laugh at the thought of doing anything that

1094
01:29:45,359 --> 01:29:49,880
would damage them politically in order to
help their citizens, and that's why they

1095
01:29:49,880 --> 01:29:55,239
will never be great. Additionally,
the United States did not give Iran any

1096
01:29:55,319 --> 01:30:00,640
taxpayers money. This was Iranian money
that was frozen by the US sanctions.

1097
01:30:00,920 --> 01:30:08,600
Countries will continue. Oh sorry,
give me a second here. I had

1098
01:30:08,640 --> 01:30:11,439
to click that to get to the
next paragraph. This is a longer statement

1099
01:30:11,439 --> 01:30:15,640
than I realized. Now I'm waiting
for it to load. Here we go.

1100
01:30:15,880 --> 01:30:20,000
Countries will continue to take Americans hostage, regardless of the willingness of the

1101
01:30:20,079 --> 01:30:26,039
US to negotiate their release. Hostages
and wrongful detainees must be returned home,

1102
01:30:26,359 --> 01:30:30,079
and at the same time, deterrence
must be discussed in order to aid in

1103
01:30:30,199 --> 01:30:35,800
preventing hostage diplomacy. This was a
win for the US and democracy, and

1104
01:30:35,880 --> 01:30:40,000
I'm glad we have leaders with the
courage to do what is right when they

1105
01:30:40,079 --> 01:30:44,600
know they will face criticism. And
I want to go back. Okay,

1106
01:30:44,640 --> 01:30:46,600
so that's a statement from Trevor Reid, but I want to go back to

1107
01:30:46,640 --> 01:30:53,199
this first paragraph. I want to
read that again because this is why he

1108
01:30:53,439 --> 01:30:57,840
kind of what he says here is
what appeals to me in terms of why

1109
01:30:58,479 --> 01:31:04,119
again with ambivalence, I fall on
the side of supporting what has been done

1110
01:31:04,119 --> 01:31:10,920
here with this deal. I want
to read that first sentence again. Congratulations,

1111
01:31:11,600 --> 01:31:14,880
first paragraph, Congratulations on our citizens
being freed from Iran. Those of

1112
01:31:14,920 --> 01:31:16,840
you who would say we lost this
exchange would be well to remember that the

1113
01:31:16,920 --> 01:31:20,720
US government is willing to bring back
hostages when it may not be financially or

1114
01:31:20,760 --> 01:31:28,680
politically lucrative for the administration, or
even disadvantageous politically. This is the important

1115
01:31:28,680 --> 01:31:33,000
part. This is the part that
speaks to me. This is what separates

1116
01:31:33,199 --> 01:31:39,439
us from the animals and what makes
the United States a great country. The

1117
01:31:39,560 --> 01:31:44,159
Russians, the Iranians, the Chinese, the Venezuelans, the Assyrians, the

1118
01:31:44,199 --> 01:31:50,600
North Koreans would laugh at the thought
of doing anything that would damage them politically

1119
01:31:50,680 --> 01:31:59,520
in order to help their citizens,
and that's why they will never be great.

1120
01:32:00,199 --> 01:32:10,640
I like it says here. Reid
had previously criticized. Again, this

1121
01:32:10,680 --> 01:32:15,239
is from Mediaite. Reid had previously
criticized the Biden administration for it's handling of

1122
01:32:15,399 --> 01:32:20,960
w NBA player Britney Griner's and Paul
Whalen's releases from Russia prisons, saying that

1123
01:32:21,000 --> 01:32:25,159
they were not doing enough to get
them out of captivity. He later said

1124
01:32:25,199 --> 01:32:29,560
he was cautiously optimistic that Biden would
have a solution. So there you go.

1125
01:32:29,680 --> 01:32:34,520
So that was Trevor Reid, Wayne
and he had been he had been

1126
01:32:34,560 --> 01:32:41,720
held captive. All right. I
think the thing that I didn't get to

1127
01:32:41,880 --> 01:32:44,840
that I had mentioned I might get
to today, but we're about out of

1128
01:32:44,880 --> 01:32:49,239
time, so we gotta go.
The AP is reporting Senate Ditch's dress code

1129
01:32:49,319 --> 01:33:00,279
as Fetterman and others choose casual clothes. I don't have a strong opinion about

1130
01:33:00,279 --> 01:33:02,439
this one way or the other,
but I do think it's kind of weird.

1131
01:33:03,920 --> 01:33:08,199
I guess Fetterman the reason he dresses
the way that he does, he's

1132
01:33:08,239 --> 01:33:12,319
so he's such a big guy that
it's really difficult for him to find suits

1133
01:33:12,359 --> 01:33:18,279
that fit him and and not be
horribly uncomfortable. But at is odd.

1134
01:33:20,600 --> 01:33:26,000
And the other thing that we didn't
get to, uh, this is also

1135
01:33:26,079 --> 01:33:31,079
from the AP. Ray Epps X
marine targeted by Jan six conspiracy theory is

1136
01:33:31,199 --> 01:33:36,760
charged with a misdemeanor in the riot. If the name Ray Epps is a

1137
01:33:36,800 --> 01:33:42,880
little bit familiar but you can't quite
place him, he's the guy who Tucker

1138
01:33:42,960 --> 01:33:53,279
Carlson claimed was actually an FBI informant
or was an agent provocateur put there by

1139
01:33:53,319 --> 01:33:57,760
the FBI, you know, because
Jan six is anyone's fault except Trump,

1140
01:33:57,840 --> 01:34:00,479
right, one of the one of
the theories, of course, being that

1141
01:34:00,520 --> 01:34:04,800
the FBI stage the whole thing,
or at least provoked it, and Tucker

1142
01:34:04,840 --> 01:34:11,680
Carlson singled out ray Epps as an
example, thus ruining ray Epps's life because

1143
01:34:11,680 --> 01:34:16,600
everyone associated with the guy who thought
he was a trumper like them, wanted

1144
01:34:16,640 --> 01:34:20,159
to kill him, or at least
we're going out a lot of threats,

1145
01:34:20,680 --> 01:34:24,680
and he had to go into hiding, and it's a whole thing, and

1146
01:34:24,760 --> 01:34:30,960
he's actually last I knew he's actually
suing Tucker Carlson for defamation, but apparently

1147
01:34:30,960 --> 01:34:43,600
now he's been charged, and that
even further disproves the nonsense that the pretend

1148
01:34:43,840 --> 01:34:48,960
journalist Tucker Carlson was putting out there
about ray Epps. Although I almost don't

1149
01:34:49,000 --> 01:34:51,840
think they should charge him. I
think he's I kind of feel like he's

1150
01:34:51,880 --> 01:34:57,720
been through enough. But anyway,
we'll look at that more closely. Maybe

1151
01:34:57,960 --> 01:35:00,880
maybe we'll get to it tomorrow.
Maybe we'll bring it up when our friend

1152
01:35:00,960 --> 01:35:02,079
Eric Pilcher was with us. Don't
forget tomorrow on the show. Of course,

1153
01:35:02,079 --> 01:35:05,960
tomorrow is Wednesday. So our first
hour we are joined by my favorite

1154
01:35:06,000 --> 01:35:10,439
conservative Eric Pilcher, and then in
the second hour we have a great musical

1155
01:35:10,479 --> 01:35:15,840
guest joining us, Marvel Prone and
let's see if you are listening live on

1156
01:35:15,880 --> 01:35:21,479
Tuesday. Immediately after this show on
WMNH, we have of course Through the

1157
01:35:21,520 --> 01:35:27,119
Stage Store hosted by the great or
Rob Dion, and immediately following that is

1158
01:35:27,159 --> 01:35:32,319
a replay of Retro Spectrum Radio with
paulc. And we had a great time

1159
01:35:32,359 --> 01:35:34,800
on Friday night, as we always
do. So if you missed the show

1160
01:35:34,800 --> 01:35:39,239
on Friday, you can hear it
tonight at seven pm right here on WMH

1161
01:35:39,359 --> 01:35:43,279
ninety five point three FM. And
if you missed any part of today's show,

1162
01:35:44,439 --> 01:35:49,600
you can get the archive at WMH
radio dot org or at my website

1163
01:35:49,680 --> 01:35:54,800
Matt Connerton dot com. And I
guess that's gonna do it for us for

1164
01:35:54,840 --> 01:35:56,840
now. But you know what I
think I'm gonna do. I think I'm

1165
01:35:56,840 --> 01:36:00,000
gonna close. I never do this, but I'm going to close the show

1166
01:36:00,119 --> 01:36:03,640
with our brand new intro. H. This was sent to me by a

1167
01:36:03,800 --> 01:36:09,159
Jerry Robinson's producer, mister B.
So if you missed it, we have

1168
01:36:09,199 --> 01:36:12,159
a brand new intro for the show, an official new intro, and I'm

1169
01:36:12,199 --> 01:36:15,560
actually gonna play it to close the
show today because i just want to hear

1170
01:36:15,600 --> 01:36:21,279
it again. It's so good.
I absolutely love it. I absolutely love

1171
01:36:21,359 --> 01:36:25,920
it. So we will close with
this, thank you all, and I'll

1172
01:36:25,960 --> 01:36:29,520
talk to y'all a little bit later. By everybody you are listening to Tom

1173
01:36:30,920 --> 01:37:03,840
three, come in and get it. Don't get so crazily down, Matzille
