WEBVTT 1 00:00:05.000 --> 00:00:08.439 All right, welcome back, and before we go to our guest, Horace 2 00:00:08.480 --> 00:00:12.480 Cooper, who has not just written this book, but of course he's also 3 00:00:13.039 --> 00:00:16.600 writes columns. He's a commentator and a constitutional scholar as well. He's got 4 00:00:16.640 --> 00:00:19.519 a lot to talk about. I just want to say real quickly to a 5 00:00:19.559 --> 00:00:22.960 couple of people who just left tips on Rumble mac or seven, thank you 6 00:00:23.039 --> 00:00:29.039 very much, and also on Rumble why j seventy two, So thank you, 7 00:00:29.120 --> 00:00:32.119 David. We don't have healthcare, we have sick and deathcare. Yeah, 8 00:00:32.159 --> 00:00:35.880 that's right. That's all they care about is getting a sick and dead. 9 00:00:36.200 --> 00:00:39.600 So going to let's talk about the economic issues and how they want to 10 00:00:39.600 --> 00:00:43.359 put us all in chains. And the book again is put y'all back in 11 00:00:43.520 --> 00:00:48.479 chains. How Joe Biden's policies hurt Black Americans. From commentator and constitutional scholar 12 00:00:48.920 --> 00:00:52.159 Horace Cooper, thank you for joining us, mister Cooper. Hey, it's 13 00:00:52.200 --> 00:00:55.240 great to be in the program. Thank you. And I'll just tell listeners 14 00:00:55.479 --> 00:00:58.039 are watchers, I should say, because the listeners are just getting the audio 15 00:00:58.079 --> 00:01:00.679 anyway. He's he told me he's out in the sticks and he doesn't have 16 00:01:00.719 --> 00:01:03.280 the bandwidth for us to do the video so it's a little bit we don't 17 00:01:03.280 --> 00:01:07.640 have usually. We've got a guest window up there that we'll show you, 18 00:01:07.680 --> 00:01:12.079 but we'll just keep the video feed on me and Travis can put up the 19 00:01:14.359 --> 00:01:15.879 book so you guys can see what the book looks like as well. As 20 00:01:15.879 --> 00:01:19.799 we're talking. Tell us a little bit about your book. Who's the target 21 00:01:19.840 --> 00:01:23.319 audience? So this is this written just to black people or are they trying 22 00:01:23.319 --> 00:01:29.000 to put us all in chains? Now? Actually they are trying to put 23 00:01:29.079 --> 00:01:33.799 us all in chains. But the purposes of the book was not to persuade 24 00:01:33.840 --> 00:01:38.040 Black Americans, are to persuade conservative Americans. The purpose of the book is 25 00:01:38.079 --> 00:01:46.920 to have a conversation with those individuals, those individuals who think that the best 26 00:01:46.959 --> 00:01:56.400 way to help Black America is specifically targeted policies that are separating races and picking 27 00:01:56.519 --> 00:02:04.799 racial winners and losers. This phenomenon has had disastrous effects whenever it's been tried, 28 00:02:05.200 --> 00:02:09.039 and we're trying it again and it is having similar effects. Yeah, 29 00:02:09.120 --> 00:02:14.960 you're absolutely right. Burgess Owens, a black congressman from I think he's from 30 00:02:15.039 --> 00:02:20.479 Utah, talked about how vibrant the middle class was before they started all these 31 00:02:20.479 --> 00:02:23.840 welfare programs. And we've heard this from a lot of different people all over 32 00:02:23.840 --> 00:02:28.159 the place about how the we would think well intentioned, you know, we're 33 00:02:28.199 --> 00:02:31.000 going to give people a hand up, but how it has been really detrimental 34 00:02:31.039 --> 00:02:36.479 and counterproductive, hasn't it. Oh absolutely it has. So let me make 35 00:02:36.520 --> 00:02:42.800 sure people understand this. In the past, when we had Jim quote. 36 00:02:42.960 --> 00:02:46.159 The President likes to talk about Jim Pro two point zero, But when we 37 00:02:46.240 --> 00:02:52.479 had Jim quote. My great uncle, my grandmother's brother, he saved up 38 00:02:52.479 --> 00:02:59.439 his money and there was a time excuse me, when many Americans paid cash 39 00:02:59.479 --> 00:03:06.039 for their are instead of installment plans. My great uncle wanted to buy a 40 00:03:06.080 --> 00:03:12.560 Cadillac, and in nineteen fifty eight he was told that the local dealer would 41 00:03:12.560 --> 00:03:16.159 not sell to him because he was black. So everybody understands, oh, 42 00:03:16.199 --> 00:03:20.919 wow, that's awful. Well, here's the thing that they don't understand. 43 00:03:21.800 --> 00:03:29.439 My great uncle was committed and he went to Chicago and purchased a Cadillac and 44 00:03:29.439 --> 00:03:36.080 then drove it back to Texas. I mentioned this because everyone, I think 45 00:03:36.240 --> 00:03:42.520 understands if you're a dealership, you want to sell as many vehicles as you 46 00:03:42.599 --> 00:03:50.960 can. A policy or statue or regulation in the South that limited the ability 47 00:03:51.360 --> 00:03:58.560 of dealers to sell to blax. Didn't just hurt blax, it also hurt 48 00:03:58.599 --> 00:04:03.840 those dealers. In fact, whether you ran a dry cleaner's, a seamstress 49 00:04:03.919 --> 00:04:12.840 shop, a restaurant, far less economic activity was able to occur because the 50 00:04:12.919 --> 00:04:18.759 government said, and this is what advocates during Jim Crow said, it was 51 00:04:18.920 --> 00:04:24.519 good for America. It was good for whites, it was good for blacks. 52 00:04:24.920 --> 00:04:30.519 Does this sound familiar today to progressive say, it's good for America, 53 00:04:31.040 --> 00:04:36.199 it's good for whites, it's good for blacks. We're gonna start recruiting airline 54 00:04:36.199 --> 00:04:41.480 pilots on the basis of race, not on the basis of excellence. We're 55 00:04:41.519 --> 00:04:46.120 gonna start recruiting officers in the military on the basis of race, not on 56 00:04:46.160 --> 00:04:50.600 the basis of excellence. And you pick the area, and what you see 57 00:04:51.319 --> 00:04:57.000 is just like in the South, where my great uncle grew up and where 58 00:04:57.040 --> 00:05:01.680 i'm it is my heritage, there was less economic activity, i e. 59 00:05:02.279 --> 00:05:10.560 More poverty because people weren't free to interact with one another. This is the 60 00:05:10.600 --> 00:05:15.639 same phenomenon that we're seeing Black Americans are beginning to recognize it. Did you 61 00:05:15.680 --> 00:05:20.000 say that your uncle was a was an entrepreneur and business for himself. Was 62 00:05:20.040 --> 00:05:26.959 that how he got the money? Yeah, he did what we would we 63 00:05:27.000 --> 00:05:30.920 would call today. He was a carpenter, is what we might call it 64 00:05:30.959 --> 00:05:35.279 today. But he did high end finishing work, trem cabinet making and the 65 00:05:35.360 --> 00:05:40.199 like. If you had a banister or something like that that you really wanted 66 00:05:40.199 --> 00:05:44.240 to add some value to your home, that's the kind of work he did. 67 00:05:44.759 --> 00:05:48.560 And he was able to save up enough money to get the thing that 68 00:05:48.680 --> 00:05:55.480 he absolutely wanted, even though the rule or the law or the statute was 69 00:05:56.000 --> 00:05:59.959 you can't do this. Where he lived, you can't know to this less, 70 00:06:00.079 --> 00:06:02.600 but you know, one of the stupidest ideas, you can't get in 71 00:06:02.639 --> 00:06:10.800 the same swimming pool. Yeah, every economic decision where Jim Crow operated, 72 00:06:11.319 --> 00:06:16.199 it limited not just what was possible for Black Americans, it limited what was 73 00:06:16.279 --> 00:06:23.199 possible for white Americans. And if you are a seamstress, you're trying to 74 00:06:23.199 --> 00:06:29.920 get as mini dresses in orders as you possibly can. The government arbitrarily places 75 00:06:30.040 --> 00:06:38.279 limits on this. And so today we've changed the particular group we are preferring. 76 00:06:38.480 --> 00:06:43.160 The new racial litter isn't white America like it wasn't Jim Crow, but 77 00:06:43.279 --> 00:06:49.920 it is supposedly Black America, and it has the same harmful effects. That's 78 00:06:50.000 --> 00:06:55.519 right. Absolutely, yeah. I think when I think about, uh, 79 00:06:55.639 --> 00:07:00.959 you know, the Jim Crow era and segregation, ridget segregation, it always 80 00:07:00.000 --> 00:07:03.199 makes me think an entrepreneurship. It makes me think of the stories about the 81 00:07:03.279 --> 00:07:08.759 jitney cabs and how you had the cab company said, we're not going to 82 00:07:08.800 --> 00:07:10.759 go in the black areas. We're gonna you know, we got this Jim 83 00:07:10.800 --> 00:07:13.319 Crow stuff and segregation, we don't want to go there. And so you 84 00:07:13.399 --> 00:07:16.360 had entrepreneurs and the black area said, well, we'll do an informal taxi 85 00:07:16.439 --> 00:07:20.399 thing, and so they set up these jitney taxi services, and then the 86 00:07:21.000 --> 00:07:26.199 response by the governments in many of these areas was to come up with expensive 87 00:07:26.279 --> 00:07:30.319 taxi medallions. I started talking about this when we talked about the you know, 88 00:07:30.600 --> 00:07:35.319 the big competition between taxi drivers, and then Uber and Lyft coming in 89 00:07:35.600 --> 00:07:39.839 and they don't have to play by the same rules. And you've got a 90 00:07:39.879 --> 00:07:44.839 lot of people who are small business individual business people. A lot of them 91 00:07:44.879 --> 00:07:47.199 were immigrants who came in, they took their money, they bought a taxi 92 00:07:47.240 --> 00:07:53.040 medallion, and then it becomes obsolete because you got these other people being given 93 00:07:53.079 --> 00:07:56.800 a monopoly, but they shut that down. But it shows the Jitney taxi 94 00:07:56.879 --> 00:07:59.399 thing shows a lot of different things. In one of those, it's just 95 00:07:59.439 --> 00:08:05.160 how vibran the entrepreneurship was in the black community before they started just handing out 96 00:08:05.199 --> 00:08:07.800 money. That's one of the things that it's just so amazing is what a 97 00:08:07.879 --> 00:08:13.560 paralyzing effect welfare can be and how they can use that to alter society. 98 00:08:13.560 --> 00:08:16.639 And we see that happening all the time every program that Biden is putting out 99 00:08:16.639 --> 00:08:20.879 there. You talk about chains putting it on us. Look at all these 100 00:08:20.879 --> 00:08:22.920 different programs where he's going to provide free money for this and free money for 101 00:08:24.000 --> 00:08:26.319 that. They're making everybody passive. We saw that in a big way as 102 00:08:26.360 --> 00:08:31.160 everybody was locked down and handed some cash in the twenty twenty, right, 103 00:08:31.279 --> 00:08:33.799 everybody started getting passive. Well, we don't want to go back to work 104 00:08:33.840 --> 00:08:39.320 anymore. That type of thing. In America, this is a place where 105 00:08:39.360 --> 00:08:43.159 if you were willing to lean into work, if you were willing to take 106 00:08:43.200 --> 00:08:50.679 a little risk, if you're willing to show some unique creativity, this is 107 00:08:50.720 --> 00:08:58.600 the place where all things are possible, except for this caveat this administration does 108 00:08:58.639 --> 00:09:05.399 not reward risk. This administration doesn't want to reward hard work. This administration 109 00:09:05.480 --> 00:09:07.960 doesn't want a reward effort. And by the way, I don't know about 110 00:09:09.000 --> 00:09:11.679 you. When I grew up my grandmother. I stayed a lot with my 111 00:09:11.759 --> 00:09:18.080 grandmother, especially during the summers, and my brother and I were expected to 112 00:09:18.120 --> 00:09:24.919 get up win the rooster quote, and that sometimes was around five a m. 113 00:09:26.000 --> 00:09:30.639 I'm a morning personnel because of that. But there are lots of people 114 00:09:30.759 --> 00:09:35.440 and they go, oh, my gosh, that's hard, that's difficult. 115 00:09:35.600 --> 00:09:39.320 So they didn't have a grandmother to help them. Well, we still need 116 00:09:39.440 --> 00:09:46.440 to get up early. My grandmother regularly said it's work time, and we 117 00:09:46.559 --> 00:09:52.799 had chores, we had activities. Well, when people look at me, 118 00:09:52.919 --> 00:09:56.080 my friends and my colleagues, they say, well, that guy, he's 119 00:09:56.120 --> 00:09:58.840 a hard worker. I'm not a workaholic, but I am a person that 120 00:10:00.120 --> 00:10:03.480 understands if you want to make something happen, you have to work. The 121 00:10:03.559 --> 00:10:11.120 incentives put in place by the Biden administration say exactly the opposite. Don't strive, 122 00:10:11.480 --> 00:10:16.159 don't make the effort. And when you don't strive and you don't make 123 00:10:16.200 --> 00:10:22.080 the effort, what you do is lose ground and you lose experience, and 124 00:10:22.200 --> 00:10:28.200 you lose opportunities, and all of those things together encourage greater degrees of poverty. 125 00:10:28.480 --> 00:10:33.879 That's right, that's right. It always has been a part of the 126 00:10:33.159 --> 00:10:37.960 virtue, going back to our Christian heritage. Look at the lazy man, 127 00:10:37.039 --> 00:10:41.120 you know, turns like a like a Dornet's hinge, you know, on 128 00:10:41.240 --> 00:10:43.000 one side or the other in his bed, doesn't get up, doesn't get 129 00:10:43.000 --> 00:10:48.240 to work. I was talking earlier in the program about Biden's fascination in terms 130 00:10:48.279 --> 00:10:54.039 of buying people who have college loans by forgiving their loans. But you put 131 00:10:54.039 --> 00:10:58.279 out just recently an OpEd piece for The Hill about the Supreme Court's decision about 132 00:10:58.320 --> 00:11:05.799 affirmative tell us set your take on that, sure. So I point out 133 00:11:05.840 --> 00:11:11.080 in this most recent ourped last month, that the Supreme Court consistently, even 134 00:11:11.200 --> 00:11:20.080 with a so called liberal majority or a left majority, will not and has 135 00:11:20.200 --> 00:11:26.600 not, ruled that it's okay for the government to single people out on the 136 00:11:26.600 --> 00:11:33.799 basis of race and give rewards, are to give penalties. What we see 137 00:11:35.320 --> 00:11:41.519 in this most recent ruling on affirmative action, a six three ruler that affirmative 138 00:11:41.600 --> 00:11:46.639 action violates this constitutional principle that the government may not do this. Guess what 139 00:11:48.159 --> 00:11:58.519 reparations does too. That the Court has in cases involving prisons, involving professors, 140 00:12:00.159 --> 00:12:07.279 involving a number of various industries, has reached out since the nineteen sixties 141 00:12:07.679 --> 00:12:16.120 and said government may not pick racial winners and losers. Even the very first 142 00:12:16.159 --> 00:12:22.399 affirmative action case, which took place in California, that particular ruling, no 143 00:12:22.879 --> 00:12:31.039 majority of justices agreed that just picking people because they're black and giving them an 144 00:12:31.080 --> 00:12:39.720 advantage because of past injustice was constitutionally permissible. At no point has the Court 145 00:12:39.919 --> 00:12:46.799 ever said this. The left tells Black Americans, and we had this conversation 146 00:12:46.879 --> 00:12:52.000 just moments ago about incentives. What we are going to do is we're going 147 00:12:52.039 --> 00:12:56.759 to take the resources that other people have and we're going to give it to 148 00:12:56.799 --> 00:13:01.480 you to make up for past mistrus treatment. I will assert, as I 149 00:13:01.519 --> 00:13:07.759 do in my book, living as a black person in America is to win 150 00:13:09.200 --> 00:13:15.879 the best lottery that has ever existed. Black Americans have more freedom, more 151 00:13:15.919 --> 00:13:22.759 liberty, more opportunity by being Americans than any other minority anywhere else on the 152 00:13:22.799 --> 00:13:31.039 planet. Reparation is not just, is not constitutional, and the left teases 153 00:13:31.120 --> 00:13:37.600 people with this. I wrote this to make sure that Americans realize if they 154 00:13:37.639 --> 00:13:43.440 ever get a popular majority to support reparations, it will be found unconstitutional. 155 00:13:43.840 --> 00:13:48.120 Yeah, and it's also going to be impractical to administer the amounts that they're 156 00:13:48.120 --> 00:13:52.320 talking about with bankrupt any state California doesn't have the kind of money to put 157 00:13:52.320 --> 00:13:56.440 this out there. It's going, but it is designed. I'm sure it 158 00:13:56.519 --> 00:14:01.440 is designed to fail because what it's really designed for is to create racial animusts, 159 00:14:01.559 --> 00:14:07.039 to create resentment, and it's designed to create chaos when it's the same 160 00:14:07.080 --> 00:14:11.759 type of thing that they're doing in terms of not punishing property crime and stuff 161 00:14:11.759 --> 00:14:18.759 like that in Californias and encouraging this this massive organized theft. It is another 162 00:14:18.919 --> 00:14:22.480 form of organized theft with it. But again, you cannot you know, 163 00:14:22.720 --> 00:14:26.360 it's going to be a completely just system because you know, how do we 164 00:14:26.440 --> 00:14:31.720 determine depending on the color of somebody's skin whether they had even had ancestors one 165 00:14:31.799 --> 00:14:35.960 hundred and sixty years ago that were involved in that, or are they a 166 00:14:35.000 --> 00:14:39.279 recent immigrant if they're white, or if they're black, As you had Angela 167 00:14:39.360 --> 00:14:45.759 Davis fund out that she had both of her grandfathers were white and where they 168 00:14:45.759 --> 00:14:48.879 had an ancestry that went back into slavery, and so she was horrified to 169 00:14:48.879 --> 00:14:50.720 find that out. But you are, You're going to find that type of 170 00:14:50.720 --> 00:14:54.840 thing. So what does she get from that? Does she get half of 171 00:14:54.879 --> 00:14:58.159 the reparations? You're not going to be able to do this from a practical 172 00:14:58.159 --> 00:15:03.080 standpoint, so signed to fail. It's just designed to make people angry with 173 00:15:03.120 --> 00:15:05.399 each other. For the longest time, you've had people like Bill Ayres and 174 00:15:05.440 --> 00:15:11.519 other Marxists who said, we had class warfare in Europe to further communism. 175 00:15:11.600 --> 00:15:16.559 We can't do that in America. Because, as you're talking about, mister 176 00:15:16.600 --> 00:15:20.960 Cooper, we had this idea of this understanding, Hey, if I work 177 00:15:20.000 --> 00:15:22.440 hard, I can get ahead in America. So we didn't have that kind 178 00:15:22.480 --> 00:15:26.919 of class warfare that they could tap into. So they decided they would go 179 00:15:26.000 --> 00:15:30.600 with racial warfare. So they started with a white skinned privilege and things like 180 00:15:30.639 --> 00:15:33.000 that. And so now this is just another wrinkle I think that's added to 181 00:15:33.080 --> 00:15:37.879 it. It's weaponized chaos, and weaponized race warfare is where they want to 182 00:15:37.919 --> 00:15:45.799 have. I think. So starting before the Civil War, the nation's oldest, 183 00:15:46.240 --> 00:15:50.480 in fact, the role's oldest political party decided but it was to their 184 00:15:50.519 --> 00:15:58.200 political advantage to weaponize race, and therefore the Democrats refused. Even though our 185 00:15:58.200 --> 00:16:03.360 country was founded on the press that all men are created equal, it was 186 00:16:03.360 --> 00:16:10.600 to their political advantage that they weaponize race. We had a war more Americans 187 00:16:10.600 --> 00:16:15.120 lost their lives than any war that we would ever have. We resolve this, 188 00:16:15.720 --> 00:16:22.519 but within forty years of the conclusion of the war, the left decided, 189 00:16:22.000 --> 00:16:29.519 yet again, we must weaponize race for our own political ambitions. The 190 00:16:30.559 --> 00:16:40.120 media and academia claims that the primary motivation behind quote racism is some Nazi like 191 00:16:40.480 --> 00:16:45.039 idea of the racial superiority of one group or another. I will tell you 192 00:16:45.320 --> 00:16:52.200 it's far more simple, simplistic. It will advantage us if we do X. 193 00:16:52.879 --> 00:16:59.320 So let's do X. It has been principled parties. The One Political 194 00:16:59.399 --> 00:17:07.839 Party started to end the Abolitionist Party started to end slavery, the Republican Party 195 00:17:07.079 --> 00:17:15.880 that throughout its history has consistently upheld this idea. We don't favor one group 196 00:17:15.240 --> 00:17:22.000 or disfavor another group because of their race. Rosa Parks wasn't mistreated because she 197 00:17:22.519 --> 00:17:27.359 was arrested for where she wanted to set because of her race. She was 198 00:17:27.519 --> 00:17:33.920 mistreated because she's a citizen of these United States, and this should never happen 199 00:17:34.359 --> 00:17:41.160 to any citizen today in the twenty first century, run political party, the 200 00:17:41.319 --> 00:17:47.960 same one that has been tempted to operate to its political advantage on the basis 201 00:17:47.960 --> 00:17:56.880 of race, pushes now a new racism that, if adopted, helps bolster 202 00:17:56.440 --> 00:18:03.759 their ability to operate. This is a sickness that we need to call out. 203 00:18:04.240 --> 00:18:07.480 I agree, yeah, we need to start calling out the Democrat Party, 204 00:18:07.480 --> 00:18:11.799 of the demagogue party, because that's what this is, just shared demagoguery. 205 00:18:11.200 --> 00:18:15.119 I remember years ago, Walter Williams would substitute for Russian and I would 206 00:18:15.720 --> 00:18:18.559 hear them when I was driving, and it was a pet peeve of Walter 207 00:18:18.640 --> 00:18:23.759 Williams. All of the as you talk about the Supreme Court decision about affirmative 208 00:18:23.759 --> 00:18:26.960 action, it was a pet peeve of his. He said, look, 209 00:18:26.000 --> 00:18:30.119 I earned this, but because of affirmative action, people assumed that I was 210 00:18:30.160 --> 00:18:36.640 given what I earned in academia. They assumed that I was given that because 211 00:18:36.799 --> 00:18:38.519 of affirmative action, because of my skin color. And he goes, and 212 00:18:38.519 --> 00:18:41.920 that's a real affront to me. You know, he wanted merit, and 213 00:18:41.920 --> 00:18:45.160 he wanted it to mean something. He didn't want set asides. There's so 214 00:18:45.200 --> 00:18:52.000 many facets of this that are just absolute wrong, absolutely wrong. Talk a 215 00:18:52.039 --> 00:18:56.240 little bit about you, your take on the sixteen nineteen project, what do 216 00:18:56.279 --> 00:19:02.759 you think about that? And critical race theory in general. So I have 217 00:19:02.839 --> 00:19:07.559 an entire chapter in the book on how Biden's adoption of the work woke agenda 218 00:19:08.000 --> 00:19:15.440 harms Black Americans. A couple of stats. Balafornia has set up a website 219 00:19:15.960 --> 00:19:22.720 where you type in your name and your information and potentially it will let you 220 00:19:23.079 --> 00:19:30.480 get a predicted outcome of what the reparation's payments might be if you are Michael 221 00:19:30.599 --> 00:19:41.400 Jackson's children, when he died was worth more than nine hundred million dollars, 222 00:19:41.440 --> 00:19:47.720 not quite a billion, but nearly nine hundred million dollars. If you were 223 00:19:47.839 --> 00:19:52.839 his children, you can go on this website and you come from the most 224 00:19:52.920 --> 00:20:00.920 elite of the elite background on planet Earth. Guess what you get? Multiple 225 00:20:02.160 --> 00:20:08.480 millions. This progeny hits multiple millions. This is unjust, this is unfair, 226 00:20:08.799 --> 00:20:14.480 and as you point out, it divides us. The sixteen nineteen Project 227 00:20:14.640 --> 00:20:22.160 starts with a lie about America that but for its reliance on slavery, we 228 00:20:22.400 --> 00:20:27.839 would not have America today. That's a lie. It's not true, it 229 00:20:27.960 --> 00:20:37.519 is not supported, and the actual academic community says this isn't supported. Slavery 230 00:20:37.039 --> 00:20:45.000 pre existed America. In fact, there's no recorded period of history where slavery 231 00:20:45.319 --> 00:20:53.200 did not exist. It is only with the existence of what the Western American 232 00:20:53.839 --> 00:21:03.359 European society has there been any pushback on slavery. In fact, it is 233 00:21:03.400 --> 00:21:10.799 the West that has imposed no slavery on the whole rest of the world. 234 00:21:11.839 --> 00:21:18.599 It is remarkable that this slur about America has been allowed to occur, and 235 00:21:18.640 --> 00:21:22.680 it just further divides us. Yeah, you're absolutely right. As a matter 236 00:21:22.680 --> 00:21:25.400 of fact, I've pointed that out many times in terms of talking about William 237 00:21:25.400 --> 00:21:27.480 Wilberforce. He was opposing it. First the trade he was able to shut 238 00:21:27.519 --> 00:21:33.559 down, and just before he died they paid for and freed slaves in Jamaica, 239 00:21:33.680 --> 00:21:37.920 and so that was his life's work. And he did it because he 240 00:21:37.960 --> 00:21:41.200 was a Christian, and that's one of the reasons why this is still being 241 00:21:41.200 --> 00:21:45.319 pushed back. You know, we still have human trafficking, we still have 242 00:21:45.400 --> 00:21:51.079 people for being abducted in other countries, and so slavery has always been the 243 00:21:51.160 --> 00:21:55.039 human condition in one place or the other. The exception is when it was 244 00:21:55.039 --> 00:22:00.599 shut down, and it was shut down for those motivations, because we saw 245 00:22:00.680 --> 00:22:03.599 people as created in the image of God, and because we did not want 246 00:22:03.680 --> 00:22:07.720 to traffic and humanity, and so those are the things that, as you 247 00:22:07.799 --> 00:22:12.519 point out, are unique to what has happened. It's been pointed out that 248 00:22:12.640 --> 00:22:18.079 even the term slave comes from slav And because they were the ones who are 249 00:22:18.079 --> 00:22:22.079 most frequently in slave going back to the Roman Empire. So a lot of 250 00:22:22.119 --> 00:22:26.039 people have said, hey, I want to get my reparations from Italy because 251 00:22:26.039 --> 00:22:29.279 I was descended from Slavic people or something like that. I mean, it 252 00:22:29.319 --> 00:22:30.640 never ends when you go through this, and like I said that, it 253 00:22:30.720 --> 00:22:36.400 was never it was never intended to be resolved. It's impossible to be resolved. 254 00:22:36.559 --> 00:22:40.440 We don't have the money, we don't have the genealogy to resolve this. 255 00:22:40.519 --> 00:22:42.319 And you've got a lot of the people who are pushing this, like 256 00:22:42.880 --> 00:22:45.519 Kamala Harris. I call her La La Harris because she's kind of be in 257 00:22:45.599 --> 00:22:51.039 La La land. But even you know, she does this and her father 258 00:22:51.160 --> 00:22:53.720 brags about how they owned slaves in the Caribbean, you know, and then 259 00:22:53.759 --> 00:22:56.960 her mother is from India. So what do you what do you do about 260 00:22:56.000 --> 00:23:00.279 that type of thing? It truly is just designed to create friction, chaos, 261 00:23:00.720 --> 00:23:07.200 and unrest, isn't it. It does now AP ORCAP norc. They 262 00:23:07.279 --> 00:23:14.480 do a survey of Americans. They typically people pay attention to it when we 263 00:23:14.559 --> 00:23:19.200 talk about the presidential horse race, but they do a survey every couple every 264 00:23:19.200 --> 00:23:25.200 six months or so about just America in general. And in the spring when 265 00:23:25.200 --> 00:23:30.440 they did their survey, they asked specifically a subset of Black Americans or a 266 00:23:30.519 --> 00:23:40.400 group of minorities questions, and they were surprised to see that significant majorities of 267 00:23:41.200 --> 00:23:48.759 minority or black Americans did not agree with the overall idea that the left pushes. 268 00:23:48.119 --> 00:23:53.880 They did not agree that structural racism explains the outcome of what happens in 269 00:23:53.920 --> 00:23:59.880 the country today. In fact sixty one to thirty nine. They think hard 270 00:24:00.079 --> 00:24:04.799 work and effort make more of a difference. Quick point LGBTQ has been the 271 00:24:06.000 --> 00:24:11.680 rage for the left. In this survey, nearly seven seventy five percent of 272 00:24:11.759 --> 00:24:18.960 blacks and other minorities think it should be a qull to allow your six, 273 00:24:18.400 --> 00:24:26.160 seven or eight year old child to be mutilated and turned into agender other than 274 00:24:26.200 --> 00:24:33.960 the one that they have that is far higher than the results of America generally. 275 00:24:33.559 --> 00:24:41.920 But it points out that Black America and other minorities are not following Kamala 276 00:24:41.960 --> 00:24:47.359 Harris and the agenda that she puts forward and that of the other wokesters. 277 00:24:47.480 --> 00:24:52.400 They don't buy them. They don't find them persuasive. I agree, and 278 00:24:52.440 --> 00:24:56.680 a chorus. If they buy into this racial thing, they're going to find 279 00:24:56.680 --> 00:24:59.680 as a bait and switch and guess what the next preferred group is going to 280 00:24:59.720 --> 00:25:03.519 be A just point out LGBT, and that's not something that's supported by black 281 00:25:03.519 --> 00:25:07.960 people or by white people in the majority. Talk a little bit about the 282 00:25:07.079 --> 00:25:11.920 unemployment gap that has grown, as you point out in your boockets, grown 283 00:25:12.119 --> 00:25:18.000 under Biden. So in my first book, How Trump Is Making Black America 284 00:25:18.079 --> 00:25:25.000 Great Again, I talked about the policies that Trump adopted that mirror those of 285 00:25:25.039 --> 00:25:30.960 the Coolidge years in the nineteen twenties. Historians call the twenties the Roaring twenties. 286 00:25:30.640 --> 00:25:37.319 What people don't realize is Black American men were more likely to be employed 287 00:25:37.640 --> 00:25:42.759 than any other group in America. I'll say that again. Black men during 288 00:25:42.799 --> 00:25:48.240 the twenties were more likely to be employed than any other Americans, Black men 289 00:25:48.720 --> 00:25:55.759 were the least likely to be in federal prison. Black children were more likely 290 00:25:56.119 --> 00:26:03.319 to be born in intact two parent household then the population at large. All 291 00:26:03.359 --> 00:26:11.920 of that got destroyed by a change in the incidentive structure where the government encourages 292 00:26:11.960 --> 00:26:17.200 you to marry it a woman to marry the government rather than her children. 293 00:26:17.680 --> 00:26:19.799 Oh, that's a great way to get it. I love that. Encourage 294 00:26:21.000 --> 00:26:23.839 the black woman to marry the government instead of a man. Is that really 295 00:26:23.880 --> 00:26:30.160 does hit to the key part of this welfare program and really to the destruction 296 00:26:30.160 --> 00:26:33.640 of the family. I think you nailed it right there. Well, government 297 00:26:33.720 --> 00:26:38.200 is not a good father. Government does not provide great housing, doesn't provide 298 00:26:38.240 --> 00:26:45.759 great healthcare, doesn't provide great education. Government is probably the worst, worst 299 00:26:45.759 --> 00:26:51.759 than an alcoholic father would be for children. But during the twelve years, 300 00:26:52.119 --> 00:26:57.519 all of a sudden, the gap between whites and blacks narrowed, and we 301 00:26:57.559 --> 00:27:06.319 saw more progress, a greater increase in black unemployment during his presidency than we 302 00:27:06.799 --> 00:27:11.519 had seen in seventy five years, even greater than the progress that happened in 303 00:27:11.559 --> 00:27:17.480 black America during the Reagan years. Now let's turn to the Biden years. 304 00:27:17.559 --> 00:27:23.599 That gap is widening again. More Black Americans in the Trump years went on 305 00:27:23.759 --> 00:27:30.839 their first summer vacation. People forget that. When Obama was president, the 306 00:27:32.160 --> 00:27:37.640 economy's management was so abysmal, we made up a new term. It was 307 00:27:37.680 --> 00:27:41.839 called staycation. I'm broke, but I've got time off, but I can't 308 00:27:41.839 --> 00:27:48.279 afford to go anywhere. Swit a staycasion. We set records for the first 309 00:27:48.480 --> 00:27:55.359 blacks families that went on summer vacation. We set records for the number of 310 00:27:55.400 --> 00:28:02.640 Black Americans that for Thanksgiving flew a drove to see m guess what we are 311 00:28:02.680 --> 00:28:10.240 doing the opposite. Now, few were Black Americans in the workforce, higher 312 00:28:10.559 --> 00:28:15.440 unemployment among Black Americans. Few were Black Americans getting their first pickup truck. 313 00:28:17.440 --> 00:28:22.319 In fact, the repo man is setting a record. Joe Biden tells me, 314 00:28:22.599 --> 00:28:27.359 the economy is wonderful. Black Americans beg to differ, just like many 315 00:28:27.359 --> 00:28:33.319 other Americans that have to look out and see if their vehicle is still there 316 00:28:33.720 --> 00:28:38.920 because the repo man has come to get it. That's what happens in a 317 00:28:40.039 --> 00:28:45.119 shrinking, terribly managed economy. Not a new vehicle, but the vehicle you 318 00:28:45.200 --> 00:28:53.839 have. And Bloomberg says that in July of twenty twenty three, the average 319 00:28:53.880 --> 00:29:00.319 age of a vehicle on the highways today is older than leaves seen in twenty 320 00:29:00.400 --> 00:29:04.680 years. Oh yeah, in just two years we managed to achieve this, 321 00:29:06.200 --> 00:29:07.559 that's right. Yeah, And they're gonna get older if we can keep him 322 00:29:07.640 --> 00:29:11.160 running, because he's gonna band the ones that really work and try to put 323 00:29:11.200 --> 00:29:15.119 everything on the grid as he shuts down the grid. It's truly amazing. 324 00:29:15.680 --> 00:29:18.039 Yeah, take good care of your cars right now, because you're not gonna 325 00:29:18.039 --> 00:29:19.839 be able to find a new one to buy, because they're gonna stop manufacturing 326 00:29:19.960 --> 00:29:23.000 because of the bands. But on him, you talk a little bit about 327 00:29:23.319 --> 00:29:29.680 Cornell West and some of your articles here, I've seen a lot of I've 328 00:29:29.720 --> 00:29:34.000 seen a lot of mainstream left wing press very concerned about a third party run 329 00:29:34.720 --> 00:29:41.839 by Cornell West and how it would damage Biden. Why is that? Why 330 00:29:41.960 --> 00:29:51.440 is he getting a traction with the black community, So Joe Biden versus Barack 331 00:29:51.480 --> 00:29:59.079 Obama, Barack Obama got to get credit for being four blacks without having to 332 00:29:59.079 --> 00:30:04.519 say was for blacks. The Biden administration has tried as hard as it can 333 00:30:04.799 --> 00:30:11.319 to hide from the American people that it is quote pro black, as you 334 00:30:11.400 --> 00:30:18.599 might imagine Americans don't want there to be racial winners and losers, so he's 335 00:30:18.640 --> 00:30:26.720 come up with convoluted programs such as this student loan bell out effort that he 336 00:30:26.839 --> 00:30:33.440 says to blacks is going to be a huge benefit because this is something the 337 00:30:33.480 --> 00:30:41.720 government owes you. Black Americans are far less likely to go to college than 338 00:30:41.759 --> 00:30:47.519 the population at large, so you're already not favoring blacks if you have a 339 00:30:47.559 --> 00:30:55.279 program like this. When you talk about alternatives to Joe Biden, what you 340 00:30:55.440 --> 00:31:00.880 hear are those voices in a case of a black professor by the name of 341 00:31:00.920 --> 00:31:07.440 Cornel West. I'm black, and you can trust that I'll be looking after 342 00:31:07.599 --> 00:31:12.039 Black Americans. The black vote, as I mentioned in my book, is 343 00:31:12.119 --> 00:31:19.960 the key constituency for the Democrats. But I also mentioned this that this is 344 00:31:21.000 --> 00:31:29.599 why I mentioned the ap NORC report. Black Americans voted and selected Joe Biden 345 00:31:29.880 --> 00:31:37.400 among all those other dwarves running in twenty twenty because they perceived him to be 346 00:31:37.440 --> 00:31:44.000 the most moderate. Amazing to find out that he isn't the most moderate. 347 00:31:44.400 --> 00:31:51.720 In fact, not much different between him and Bernie Senders. And still there 348 00:31:51.720 --> 00:31:56.759 has been no improvement in the lives of black America. The we're not happy 349 00:31:56.799 --> 00:32:04.279 with you, Biden vote is growing, and we like a candidate who will 350 00:32:04.400 --> 00:32:09.519 unabashedly represent us and not do so in a shamed fashion. Last Born, 351 00:32:09.599 --> 00:32:15.599 I'm making the book. The magic number is eighty five percent. Democrats must 352 00:32:15.680 --> 00:32:24.720 get eighty five percent of the Black vote in order to remain viable. Ninety 353 00:32:24.759 --> 00:32:34.599 four percent of the vote in two thousand eight voted against John McCain and the 354 00:32:34.680 --> 00:32:40.720 Democrat and the Republicans. Every election since two thousand and eight, that number 355 00:32:40.960 --> 00:32:47.160 has shrinked, and in fact, in twenty twenty two, that number was 356 00:32:47.440 --> 00:32:55.480 eighteen percent of Black Americans. Excuse me, fourteen percent, not eighteen percent. 357 00:32:55.720 --> 00:33:01.759 Fourteen percent of Black Americans did not though for the Democrats, and that 358 00:33:01.960 --> 00:33:07.759 single handedly changed the House of Representatives. Make up. If you don't get 359 00:33:07.799 --> 00:33:13.480 the eighty five percent in twenty twenty four, you put a state like New 360 00:33:13.559 --> 00:33:17.799 Jersey in play, You put a state like Illinois in play, and you 361 00:33:19.440 --> 00:33:27.839 sweep away Pennsylvania. They absolutely need a minimum of eighty five percent, But 362 00:33:28.039 --> 00:33:34.039 every year since two thousand and eight that margin has shrank, and they're worried. 363 00:33:34.359 --> 00:33:39.240 They're right to be worried. What they don't understand is they absolutely must 364 00:33:39.240 --> 00:33:47.000 come back to the center. Unless they do that, their prospects electorally are 365 00:33:47.119 --> 00:33:52.480 highly restricted. Yes, it is interesting to see what will happen. And 366 00:33:52.480 --> 00:33:55.039 of course Biden thinks that it still thinks that that does. His strength the 367 00:33:55.079 --> 00:34:00.200 black community is one of the reasons why he moved having on Earth to try 368 00:34:00.240 --> 00:34:06.799 to get South Carolina moved up for the Democrats in terms of primaries before Iowa 369 00:34:06.839 --> 00:34:10.320 and New Hampshire. It'll be interesting to see what happens there because he doesn't 370 00:34:10.360 --> 00:34:14.960 have any competition really within the Democrat Party except for RFK Junior. I don't 371 00:34:14.960 --> 00:34:19.960 know how how he's going to poll with black people, but I imagine that, 372 00:34:20.039 --> 00:34:23.400 you know, if Biden is able to win in South Carolina the primary, 373 00:34:23.480 --> 00:34:29.039 then he will use that as a sign that he has supported by the 374 00:34:29.039 --> 00:34:31.800 black community. How is RFK Junior doing in the polls with blacks? Are 375 00:34:31.840 --> 00:34:43.280 you aware of how he has viewed so? Mister Kennedy has not been going 376 00:34:43.400 --> 00:34:52.119 in particular to urban constituencies, but interestingly, Cornel West is doing far better 377 00:34:52.480 --> 00:34:58.360 with the black vote than Joe Biden art Mister Kennedy, however, when black 378 00:34:58.400 --> 00:35:05.440 Americans are asked, would you vote for mister Kennedy, they're not showing numbers 379 00:35:05.440 --> 00:35:10.320 that say they don't refuse to do so. Right now, mister Trump is 380 00:35:10.360 --> 00:35:20.239 not popular with Black Americans, except for this, some fifteen to twenty percent 381 00:35:20.480 --> 00:35:27.719 of Black Americans say they will consider him as a candidate. That number gets 382 00:35:27.719 --> 00:35:32.280 you passed the eighty five percent, and so you wouldn't need to get a 383 00:35:32.320 --> 00:35:38.360 majority of the black vote. You just need a critical number. Whether it's 384 00:35:38.440 --> 00:35:45.719 mister Kennedy, whether it's mister West. Mister Biden finds himself in trouble. 385 00:35:45.000 --> 00:35:52.159 And this is why they're working to stop Cornell West from getting on the ballot. 386 00:35:52.880 --> 00:35:58.760 They recently ran a poll in Michigan, and in Michigan with Cornell West 387 00:35:59.039 --> 00:36:02.960 on the ballot, Donald Trump handily, well handily, like two to three 388 00:36:04.039 --> 00:36:09.639 points wins the state of Michigan. Well, he carry Michigan. It is 389 00:36:09.719 --> 00:36:15.280 going to be really hard for Jill Biden to figure out how to win around 390 00:36:15.320 --> 00:36:20.760 that. Now, Cornell West is a pretty radical Marxist professor. Uh, 391 00:36:21.199 --> 00:36:23.360 what is he going to run as a Green candidate? What is his idea? 392 00:36:23.480 --> 00:36:25.679 That? Of course, that's going to be the real issue, and 393 00:36:25.760 --> 00:36:30.239 that is ballad access. They've made it very difficult for any independent of third 394 00:36:30.239 --> 00:36:36.559 party candidates to get on outside of the Republicans and Democrats. What from a 395 00:36:36.599 --> 00:36:42.519 practical standpoint, what is what is Cornell West talking about besides race? And 396 00:36:42.920 --> 00:36:46.239 what is he running as an independent or as part of some third party? 397 00:36:47.320 --> 00:36:51.639 Well, I'm not really the expert on mister West. I will just tell 398 00:36:51.679 --> 00:36:54.960 you all the talk in Washington when I was just there last month was that 399 00:36:55.039 --> 00:37:00.039 he's likely to run as the Green candidate. And all you have to do 400 00:37:00.519 --> 00:37:06.199 to get on the ballot in most states, not every, but in most 401 00:37:06.239 --> 00:37:12.000 states is to have been on the ballot in prior elections. And the Green 402 00:37:12.159 --> 00:37:17.559 candidates have been on the ballot in about forty three states over the last two 403 00:37:17.840 --> 00:37:22.840 elections, so you get a lot of those, and Michigan is one of 404 00:37:22.840 --> 00:37:30.079 those states where that Green candidate already gets to hold a spot. He's a 405 00:37:30.159 --> 00:37:38.039 Marxist, yeah, because he speaks unabashedly about how he's going to help blacks. 406 00:37:38.480 --> 00:37:44.079 There are going to be some blacks that want to support him. They're 407 00:37:44.079 --> 00:37:50.199 not the majority, but that's a critical constituency that Joe Biden needs to keep. 408 00:37:50.800 --> 00:37:55.880 And the other blacks who say, wait a second, I had this 409 00:37:55.920 --> 00:38:01.719 period where my nephew or my and son moved out and got his own apartment. 410 00:38:02.199 --> 00:38:06.679 He's back. You know. My old boss, Dick Army said, 411 00:38:06.840 --> 00:38:09.840 the American dream isn't to own your own home. It's to get your kids 412 00:38:09.840 --> 00:38:17.320 out of it under Joe. Under Joe Biden's policies, but we have more 413 00:38:17.559 --> 00:38:29.440 intergenerational living arrangements than we've seen again in twenty years. These consequences are fairly 414 00:38:29.480 --> 00:38:32.400 significant. That's interesting. It's interesting that you used to work for Dick Army 415 00:38:32.440 --> 00:38:37.119 as well. I want to contest with Freedom Works, and when Dick Army 416 00:38:37.239 --> 00:38:40.519 was running it, and I got to Karen and I got to go up 417 00:38:40.559 --> 00:38:47.039 to Chicago when we won that contest. That's a that's a great quote from 418 00:38:47.320 --> 00:38:52.320 Dick Army. It's really funny. But yeah, it is is as interesting 419 00:38:52.360 --> 00:38:54.280 to see how this is going to happen. As you point out, the 420 00:38:54.320 --> 00:38:58.280 ballot thing is very different from state to state. Some of them it's going 421 00:38:58.360 --> 00:39:00.159 to be grandfathered and others it's gonna be pretty impossible. But he doesn't have 422 00:39:00.199 --> 00:39:05.039 to get on the ballot in all fifty states to have a big impact against 423 00:39:05.239 --> 00:39:08.480 Joe Biden. As you point out, just taking away you know, the 424 00:39:08.559 --> 00:39:15.280 fifteen magic fifteen percent number of the black vote would be crippling to Biden in 425 00:39:15.280 --> 00:39:19.320 a general election. So that's interesting to look at. You talk a bit 426 00:39:19.320 --> 00:39:25.599 about. Sorry, go ahead. It's one thing. The center's effect that 427 00:39:25.800 --> 00:39:32.199 our president has is very much like the sinister effect that Barack Obama had, 428 00:39:34.400 --> 00:39:37.960 no matter what you think. And I was not a fan of the takeover 429 00:39:37.320 --> 00:39:43.559 of our healthcare system. I was not a fan of though you did not 430 00:39:43.719 --> 00:39:47.280 build that mindset, the taxes, all of those things I'm not a fan 431 00:39:47.360 --> 00:39:57.280 of. But I thought America at least can say, if you want to 432 00:39:57.320 --> 00:40:05.840 be president of the most powerful country, most influential country on planetor and perhaps 433 00:40:05.960 --> 00:40:10.159 throughout recorded history, it doesn't matter whether you're black, white, or brown. 434 00:40:12.199 --> 00:40:16.960 Our president could have been appealing to second graders, fifth graders, high 435 00:40:17.000 --> 00:40:22.360 schoolers and saying to them, look at me in America, if you work, 436 00:40:22.639 --> 00:40:25.679 if you strive, you can do it. You know what he did 437 00:40:25.719 --> 00:40:31.679 instead, if he downgraded America. He said, America isn't fair, America 438 00:40:31.800 --> 00:40:37.599 isn't trying to give you a shot. So even though we could see with 439 00:40:37.719 --> 00:40:45.000 our eyes what was possible with America, he told us that simply wasn't true. 440 00:40:45.480 --> 00:40:52.639 Miss Biden's policies do the same thing. My grandmother, thankfully hadn't not 441 00:40:52.800 --> 00:40:58.639 lived during the period of the presidencies of these two men, and she told 442 00:40:58.679 --> 00:41:05.679 me way back in the seventies, you gotta work harder, you gotta work 443 00:41:05.719 --> 00:41:10.880 smarter, you gotta apply yourself. There is nothing that can hold you back. 444 00:41:12.679 --> 00:41:19.679 My grandmother and my mother, my grandparents had a house that I can 445 00:41:19.760 --> 00:41:25.400 see out my window right now. They had nine kids with two bedrooms, 446 00:41:25.840 --> 00:41:34.679 one bathroom. Out of those nine kids, four of them ended up with 447 00:41:35.039 --> 00:41:43.440 advanced graduate degrees, seven of them graduated from college, and all of them 448 00:41:43.760 --> 00:41:52.480 ended up being productive members of society. That's because my grandfather and my grandmother 449 00:41:52.960 --> 00:41:57.719 said, America is a place where if you apply yourself, if you make 450 00:41:57.800 --> 00:42:05.239 the effort, you can achieved. Mister Biden's policies do exactly the opposite. 451 00:42:06.280 --> 00:42:13.960 I remember a world where my grandmother, as a child, she knew that 452 00:42:14.000 --> 00:42:19.320 things weren't always fair, she knew that things weren't always just, but she 453 00:42:19.719 --> 00:42:24.639 believed her effort made all the difference in the world. I'm in high school. 454 00:42:25.039 --> 00:42:32.039 She takes her savings and she buys a house next to the house that 455 00:42:32.079 --> 00:42:37.599 I can see out my window that she paid cash for because that was to 456 00:42:37.840 --> 00:42:44.559 be her retirement home. Again, my great uncle paid cash for a car 457 00:42:45.000 --> 00:42:51.320 in the nineteen fifties, heaters nineteen seventy nine, and my grandmother is paying 458 00:42:51.400 --> 00:42:57.159 cash for her knew as she called it, her brick home. There is 459 00:42:57.199 --> 00:43:00.880 a world of difference between being taught that if you make the effort, if 460 00:43:00.880 --> 00:43:08.320 you strive, that in America, you can achieve amazing things, versus a 461 00:43:08.400 --> 00:43:15.239 world where presidents tell us America's not fair, America's unjust. Here, I'm 462 00:43:15.280 --> 00:43:20.880 gonna give a little trinket here, I'm gonna give a little payment there, 463 00:43:21.280 --> 00:43:25.039 and it'll all be fine. That is a world in which black kids are 464 00:43:25.079 --> 00:43:34.199 overwhelmingly graduating not able to read the diplomas that they're handed on that day. 465 00:43:34.239 --> 00:43:37.360 That is a world or black kids, who fought for the right to be 466 00:43:37.400 --> 00:43:45.039 able to attend any school regardless of their race, are increasingly simply not equipped 467 00:43:45.519 --> 00:43:52.559 to succeed in school. That is a world where Black Americans are unemployed at 468 00:43:52.559 --> 00:43:58.239 a higher rate than the population at large. And that is a world where 469 00:43:58.639 --> 00:44:05.519 three quarters of black children are borne outside of Woodlock. We can change this, 470 00:44:05.960 --> 00:44:13.159 but we absolutely must walk away from policies that say we as a society 471 00:44:13.639 --> 00:44:17.880 meet policies that pick racial winners and losers. I absolutely agree. And of 472 00:44:17.880 --> 00:44:22.920 course, you know, the same destruction that you've seen to the black community 473 00:44:22.960 --> 00:44:25.559 in terms of you know, the welfare program and all the rest of these 474 00:44:25.559 --> 00:44:30.440 things, we're now seeing that being spread out to everybody. Should point out 475 00:44:30.480 --> 00:44:34.239 at the very beginning, you know, your book is not just to black 476 00:44:34.280 --> 00:44:37.360 people, it is to everyone, because they're going to use these same they're 477 00:44:37.440 --> 00:44:42.360 using are using right now with d EI. They're using these same types of 478 00:44:42.400 --> 00:44:46.440 things to give people a sense of entitlement, to take them away from reality 479 00:44:46.840 --> 00:44:52.159 as well as from merit. So you know, they're they're setting up this 480 00:44:52.239 --> 00:44:55.280 trap for everyone. And of course the endgame of this is a universal basic 481 00:44:55.320 --> 00:44:59.480 income and smart cities. But they're doing this to all different groups, and 482 00:44:59.480 --> 00:45:02.719 so that's why it's key for people to see the history of this and understand 483 00:45:02.719 --> 00:45:07.400 the implication of these policies because they're doing this to everybody. They want all 484 00:45:07.480 --> 00:45:10.400 of us, y'all to be slaves, that they want you all to be 485 00:45:10.440 --> 00:45:15.440 slaves regardless, and they're going to use these same tactics that are tried and 486 00:45:15.480 --> 00:45:17.679 true as to what they've done to the black family, because already we see 487 00:45:19.039 --> 00:45:23.760 legitimacy going up across the board and all the same problems that they inculcated with 488 00:45:23.880 --> 00:45:29.239 their government as the father of the family and so forth. All of these 489 00:45:29.239 --> 00:45:34.079 things that they put in that's now being transferred to everyone across the board, 490 00:45:34.119 --> 00:45:43.920 regardless of demographics. Yeah. So I often remind people in presentations Black Americans 491 00:45:44.000 --> 00:45:50.079 are the canary in the coal money. Yeah, odious experiments which have been 492 00:45:50.119 --> 00:45:57.119 destructive are not just going to be kept targeted at Blacks. They're coming for 493 00:45:57.199 --> 00:46:02.760 you. The same disincentives that harm Blacks are going to be targeted to every 494 00:46:02.840 --> 00:46:13.320 group. Look at the Affirmative Action ruling. Asian Americans brought this to They 495 00:46:13.440 --> 00:46:19.519 brought this litigation for it. My organization Project twenty one submitted an amicus brief 496 00:46:20.119 --> 00:46:24.679 urging the Supreme Court to do exactly what it ended up doing. I promise 497 00:46:24.800 --> 00:46:35.000 you that Asian Americans, which today embody the effort of striving, making achieving 498 00:46:35.360 --> 00:46:42.760 through hard work and sacrifice, but targeted. We must get you to disengage. 499 00:46:43.320 --> 00:46:50.159 White America is being targeted by the progressives to be the targeted to the 500 00:46:50.239 --> 00:46:54.760 group that's hated to be the group that's resented. They will not stop, 501 00:46:55.159 --> 00:47:04.960 however, until every growth in America is equal, equally poor, yes, 502 00:47:05.239 --> 00:47:10.960 equally educated, equally suffering. That's the goal. And it is not a 503 00:47:13.719 --> 00:47:16.840 oh wow, this is a conspiracy. It's not a conspiracy. The end 504 00:47:17.119 --> 00:47:27.599 result of autocratic control is misery for everyone. This isn't something unique. Everywhere 505 00:47:27.639 --> 00:47:30.480 it's been tried, this has occurred. I repeat what I said at the 506 00:47:30.519 --> 00:47:40.480 beginning of this interview. Programs that attempt to favor specifically one racial group ends 507 00:47:40.599 --> 00:47:47.079 up hurting us all. How about a program or policy that simply says work 508 00:47:47.119 --> 00:47:53.159 harder, be smarter, get the benefit of the risk you take. That 509 00:47:53.480 --> 00:47:58.800 would help every American. That's right, Yeah, you know it's a even 510 00:47:58.840 --> 00:48:00.719 going back to the time of Jeffrey and other people, this is not a 511 00:48:00.719 --> 00:48:07.760 new philosophy of people appealing to one particular group of ethnic group or whatever and 512 00:48:08.039 --> 00:48:12.599 appealing to them and saying, you know, if we tear down the society, 513 00:48:12.599 --> 00:48:15.679 I'm going to put you at the top of society. At the time 514 00:48:15.679 --> 00:48:19.559 of Jefferson, they called these people levelers. Now they have called themselves socialists 515 00:48:19.559 --> 00:48:22.920 because or communists because oh it sounds scientific or educated what you know, but 516 00:48:22.960 --> 00:48:27.119 they're levelers. I think a leveler is a better description of what these people 517 00:48:27.119 --> 00:48:29.599 want to do to our society. As you point out, they want everybody 518 00:48:29.599 --> 00:48:34.079 equal. They want everybody equal where you own nothing and you have nothing and 519 00:48:34.400 --> 00:48:37.639 you have no way to get out of this slavery. And I think a 520 00:48:37.639 --> 00:48:40.599 good example of this and how this is escalator, Missus Cooper, is how 521 00:48:42.559 --> 00:48:46.360 you look at the direct attacks now on the family. You know, they 522 00:48:46.400 --> 00:48:51.199 made the attacks as we can see the end result. Whether that was their 523 00:48:51.239 --> 00:48:54.840 design or not, we can argue about that. But regardless of whether that 524 00:48:54.880 --> 00:49:00.480 was their design, the welfare state attacked the family. But now they are 525 00:49:00.599 --> 00:49:04.920 directly attacking the family through the d e I, through the LGBT, through 526 00:49:04.960 --> 00:49:08.119 the educational institutions. That is directly the target. And of course we know 527 00:49:08.840 --> 00:49:14.719 that they want to be the only thing that anybody is attached to. You 528 00:49:14.760 --> 00:49:16.840 know, the family must be the state, and the state must replace the 529 00:49:16.880 --> 00:49:21.480 family. I think that is really where we're headed. What do you think, 530 00:49:22.920 --> 00:49:28.960 Well, it's no surprise that BLM, the one of the biggest grifter 531 00:49:29.360 --> 00:49:37.000 organizations in America, on their website that the destruction of the nuclear family was 532 00:49:37.039 --> 00:49:40.679 one of their stated objectives. You see, it turns out the way our 533 00:49:40.840 --> 00:49:49.320 later made us. Those that we create ourselves, the children that we bring 534 00:49:49.440 --> 00:49:54.679 forth, we feel a duty, in natural and innate duty to protect them, 535 00:49:54.719 --> 00:50:00.559 to prevent them from being harmed, to feed them, clothe them. 536 00:50:00.719 --> 00:50:05.519 We do that better than the Department of Education. We do that better than 537 00:50:05.760 --> 00:50:12.639 HHS. In fact, look at go to Detroit, go to Philadelphia, 538 00:50:12.920 --> 00:50:19.800 go to Chicago, and see where the gun I agree, Yeah, do 539 00:50:19.920 --> 00:50:23.480 we lose him? Sorry it cut out for a moment there. I thought 540 00:50:23.480 --> 00:50:28.480 we'd lost you. But before we end the interview here, I just want 541 00:50:28.480 --> 00:50:32.000 to comment from a listener on Rumble and thank you for the tip, Katiana. 542 00:50:32.119 --> 00:50:36.880 She says reparations would also apply to the deaf community, who were oppressed 543 00:50:36.880 --> 00:50:42.199 by Alexander Graham Bell, who lobbied for legislation to ban sign language and forced 544 00:50:42.239 --> 00:50:45.920 them to read lips and speak. I mean, we've had situations again. 545 00:50:45.760 --> 00:50:51.440 You know, when you look at propagating injustice, it never ends. Everybody's 546 00:50:51.480 --> 00:50:55.599 got a grievance about something. But this is really weaponized social engineering, without 547 00:50:55.599 --> 00:50:59.480 a doubt, and it's a new level that they have taken this too. 548 00:51:00.079 --> 00:51:02.920 And before you go, let's talk a little bit. We've got about only 549 00:51:02.920 --> 00:51:07.199 about three minutes. Tell us a little bit about Project twenty one. You 550 00:51:07.239 --> 00:51:09.239 were the chairman of that, and I didn't mention that at the very beginning 551 00:51:09.280 --> 00:51:14.440 of the interview. You've also taught constitutional law at George Mason University, and 552 00:51:14.480 --> 00:51:19.440 you were a senior counselor to House Majority Leader Dick Army, as you pointed 553 00:51:19.440 --> 00:51:22.119 out there. But tell us a little bit about Project twenty one. The 554 00:51:22.159 --> 00:51:29.039 Project twenty one is a group of the membership group made up of Black Americans 555 00:51:29.400 --> 00:51:37.079 who come from that vibrant portion of Black America that has existed since the slavery 556 00:51:37.119 --> 00:51:43.440 period. There's always been this robust argument do we need more government or do 557 00:51:43.519 --> 00:51:50.679 we need more self started activity and community that used to be the majority of 558 00:51:50.719 --> 00:51:55.800 Black America. It is still know a good thirty five to forty five percent 559 00:51:57.119 --> 00:52:01.320 of Black America. We promote strong family, we promote hard work. We 560 00:52:01.400 --> 00:52:07.599 believe that we need more self government and that includes the freedom of individuals to 561 00:52:07.679 --> 00:52:14.239 make choices about themselves. If you think that the world is bigoted, and 562 00:52:14.280 --> 00:52:17.719 if you think that the world is racist, there used to be a very 563 00:52:17.880 --> 00:52:23.000 very vibrant argument that said, Okay, then you should be the best mechanic 564 00:52:23.320 --> 00:52:30.440 that you could possibly be, because that will overcome people's bigotry and hostility towards 565 00:52:30.480 --> 00:52:34.360 you. The left says, don't try, don't even make the effort. 566 00:52:34.559 --> 00:52:37.800 The other point that we have is that we make sure that we are in 567 00:52:37.840 --> 00:52:45.119 the media so that this mindset that actually is very vibrant within Black America gets 568 00:52:45.119 --> 00:52:51.119 a chance to speak out. And so most of our members are asked to 569 00:52:51.320 --> 00:52:57.679 regularly show up at community settings and share the kinds of views. We don't 570 00:52:57.679 --> 00:53:01.800 give them talking points, to share the kinds of views that have always existed 571 00:53:02.159 --> 00:53:08.880 within Black America, asking people to remember, you got set free, and 572 00:53:09.079 --> 00:53:15.000 freedom comes with it many, many amazing opportunities. Let's not ever forget that. 573 00:53:15.800 --> 00:53:17.599 Oh yeah, that's very important. As a matter of fact, you 574 00:53:17.719 --> 00:53:21.039 want to look at this when we were talking about the focus on the black 575 00:53:21.039 --> 00:53:23.639 community by people like Bill Airs, a white elitist, if ever the was 576 00:53:23.719 --> 00:53:28.760 somebody, the Marxists have focused on the black community because they feel like they're 577 00:53:28.800 --> 00:53:32.920 going to be their useful tools to overcome the society. And just as we 578 00:53:32.960 --> 00:53:36.960 saw them, you know, they would never push in Europe start your own 579 00:53:37.000 --> 00:53:40.960 business and try to have upward economic mobility. They put out that same message 580 00:53:42.000 --> 00:53:45.760 of despair to the black community today, and so it's so good to hear 581 00:53:45.840 --> 00:53:51.519 you putting out exactly the opposite, Horace Cooper, and he is besides all 582 00:53:51.519 --> 00:53:54.440 these other things, he is the author of the book that they want to 583 00:53:54.440 --> 00:54:10.000 put y'all in chains. Thank you so much. The David Night Show is 584 00:54:10.039 --> 00:54:19.320 a critical thinking super spreader. 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