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This is the downbeat on ninety seven
to one, the freak. Good morning.

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I hope you're all doing well.
It is eighteen degrees in the Metroplex,

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but never fear, should be above
freezing in about three or four hours.

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The cold front will hit again on
Friday and Saturday. They'll kind of

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keep the highs in the thirties,
but we'll get out of that next Tuesday.

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I think high sixty one. So
whether it's uh, you know,

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kind of on our mind in January
a little bit here, especially getting through

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this cold front. Luckily the roads
didn't get iced over too bad or anything

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like that. I'm seeing thirty four
degrees by noon and by three pm forty

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two. All right, pait it
through there. Why an't we calling March

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Wednesday? We're golfing Wednesday, okay? And then tonight's low should not dip

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below freezing? How about that?
I love it? And turn off my

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space heater next to my washing machine
in the garage. And then here's the

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thing today though, Today is the
day of pipe bursting, right because that

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when the frozen pipes fall out?
Though, isn't that the problem? I

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don't know. I don't know either. We don't know, and that's what

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you want. Fifty five tomorrow,
guys, Yeah, let's go. Let's

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go water skiing. I don't want
to go water skiing with Twiggy the Squirrel.

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Yesterday, Mark Cuban was on with
Ben and Skin Live in studio.

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You know Mark Cuban, the former
owner of the Dallas Mavericks. Yeah,

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who I learned His current title is
Mark Mark. I'm Mark, Like the

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first thing, like what do we
call you now? Governor? A lot

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of things? Mark? All right, the go here. He's an interesting

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dude and he's comfortable. Uh.
And Ben Skinn are great interviewers. Whatever

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you want to say about Ben and
Skin, they're great interviewers and they do

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a great show ten to two every
day here on the Freak. We said

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it in the six o'clock hour.
I want to repeat because I thought it

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was great how to handle it that
it was the good cop bad cop Skin

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with more detailed specific questions kind of
and Ben representing sort of the every man

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and asking for clarification where needed.
And like you said, with that format,

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Ben then could ask kind of really
hard questions, but do it from

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a you know, a layman's perspective. And it was just the voice of

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the people. Yes, yeah,
and you know Ben would qualify. Look,

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I'm an idiot. I don't understand
this, what about this? And

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it was just really well done.
Man, it was really entertaining hour and

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a half. They're the best interviewers
in this town. They've gotten more out

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of people who normally don't say things
than anyone. If you if you're someone

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who has listened to Minskin forever,
you know that I'm right on this.

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And if you haven't miss Minskin,
you just need to trust me because I've

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seen them bring so many people out
of their shells and get comfortable and start

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talking in ways that you would never
hear them talk. And it's really interesting.

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So Mark Cuban had a lot to
say first sit down interview. I

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mean, he had made comments on
the court, you know, with the

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seven to ten reporters, but he
this is his first sit down interview since

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he sold the team to the Addleson
family in Las Vegas Sands Corp. I'm

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gonna start though, with the one
that's probably like not newsworthy or anything except

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to well it is a little bit
because this was a big story that there

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is Mark Cuban paying out bonuses to
his employees thirty five million dollars to MAV's

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employees after he sold the team,
because he got more money once he sold

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the team, clearly, and Jeff
skin Waite is an employee at Bally technically,

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but skin has been on the MAVs
broadcast since I think like oh nine,

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maybe twenty ten, Like is that
right? It's it's been a well

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over a decade. I cannot believe
that he's been Yeah, same here at

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five or six, under fifteen years
and over ten years old. Dude.

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I sometimes watch random NBA games on
h I have a thing, right,

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watch games galore. And there are
some play by play teams that are really

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boring. Yeah, and ours is
really really good. Ours is exceptional.

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And I'm right with you because the
way I have to consume the MAVs with

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the you know, going through the
weird yeah streaming sites, unfortunately, sometimes

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you're locked into the away team.
And dude, our play by play team

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is exceptional, and Skin is a
big part of it. Because most teams

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just have two guys, one old
former player and generally one old play by

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play guy, and it's just kind
of milk toast the whole delivery but follow

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up is great. All the whole
team is great. And then Skin is

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there to with just dashes of of
good insight and then wild weird city radiohead

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references or whatever R and B you
know for singers, and then his postgame

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interviews are outstanding. We're lucky,
dude, they are good. Has Edge

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yeah, and Devin Harris is yeah. So it's kind of it's kind of

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great, dude, Skin. He's
on Monday on m okay, he interviews

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Tim Hardaway and then they start the
post game show and he's up there sitting

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next to Dana, like, yeah, doing a lot there this If you

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didn't hear this live, so you
maybe it's just because like you know these

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people, so you sit here and
go you feel happy, right, But

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we all have friends or employees for
the MAVs, whether they've worked there for

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a long time or not, and
they're kind of talking about did this make

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you feel good? You know,
Mark, when you gave a big bonus,

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and he mentioned some of his other
companies, Broadcast dot Com and hd

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net and all these companies that he'd
had in the mess. Anytime I sold

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the company, I paid out.
I took out a big lump of money

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and paid off some employees some bonus
money for their commitment and hard work and

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effort all that stuff. And this
is yesterday on the Bit and Skin Show,

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and this is just radio magic.
Man. Yeah, man, you've

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you've talked to people, right,
I mean you've heard the stories and people

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I'm sure have come up and said
something to you. And you know,

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and I don't know if if you
got your check yet, I have not.

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You will. Yeah, it's coming. So it went full time than

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part time, than contractors, and
so the contractors and friends of contractors.

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That's great, this is great.
I'll get mine. Well, this has

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become a really good interview for me. It's amazing. Yeah, I mean

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how much did you get? I
think it was seventy five seventy five dollars

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grand whoa really let's go. Hey, well, I'm kind of speechless at

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the moment. Is it bad to
let it ride on one hand of black

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shots? I would give it to
mad Max. She would like, would

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you like to manage me? Had
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It's kind of hanging out. Is
it bad to let it ride on one

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hand of black drink? Yeah?
It's probably a bad goal, but seventy

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five he just learned yesterday on the
ad it got seventy five, kissing his

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ass. He's not that good at
interviews. Well for thirteen years of interviews,

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so whatever or whatever it is,
you know, my God and games

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and doing MAVs Live, dude,
I antony. I used to worked ben

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in Skin since twenty thirteen. I
worked with them and it'd be nuts me.

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It's gonna we get to the studio
PM Drive show. It's time he

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can get to the studio. But
he just got back to the AAC because

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he was recording MAVs Live. And
I'm like, dude, at some point,

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you don't have to do MAVs Live
this side show on Fox Sports Southwest.

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He's like, well, it's just
easier if I handle it. So

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I go down and do it,
and you know, it's just it's a

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lot, and it doesn't be on
the music stuff. So I'm kidding that

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dude's a horse. He has a
horse. He's not shaped like a horse

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at all. Oh no, I
mean he is shaped like a lemur.

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I couldn't believe that's seventy five grand, just like that in the how Many

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Breaths It takes to say a couple
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Yeah, and it's cool that barks
at the number too, because really it's

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like, oh, you'll be getting
something. Nobody ever talks about money.

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That's amazing that Mark. They got
an actual figure, which is great for

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me because you're over here ripping him. I'm very happy for skinned, well

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deserved, well earned, which means, uh, maybe I'll get to put

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a out another couple of extra albums
this year. Yeah, from the Skylight

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Soul Company for Operation Platinum, Right
Soul Company. When did you feel like

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legalizing gambling was gaining momentum? Mark
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of momentum. That was never the
thing I just looked at and said didn't

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make good economic sense for the people
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He said it was never gaining momentum
to him. Now, he could be

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talking in code, because he may. I'm sure he does no more than

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he's letting on. I'm speculating in
that regard, but I agree the follow

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up here by Ben is really good
because Ben said, well, when and

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how would it be approved? To
get that approved? Here in Texas when

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and how I'm the wrong person?
Yeah, I really Yeah, that's Patrick

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knows that stuff cold and he's you
know, that's what he does, right,

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And so Patrick Dumont, Miriam Madelson's
son who owns you know, as

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a big player in this as well. He's part of the family. Future

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best friend. Yeah, hopefully he
doesn't know. Yeah, that's my new

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target for real friendship. But what
I do know is it's a process.

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You know. What I do believe
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if you do this, the state
of Texas becomes a top three tourism destination

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in the entire country and top ten
in the entire world. What if instead

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of let's go to Vegas, that's
that's just let's go to Dallas, dude,

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exactly, let's go I love that
interesting point because think about this.

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There's one reason to go to Vegas, right, one big reason, and

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that's the casinos. That's the strip, that's the gambling, it's the culture.

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It's the thing that Vegas has.
But it's centered around that. The

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hookers. Yeah, I thought you
were gonna say the hooker. If you

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come to Dallas and it has a
similar the the accessibility to the those types

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of things that you want from Vegas. You can come to Dallas. Well,

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Dallas has a lot more around it
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general, because you're only a few
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you know, you're a quick plane
ride to San Angelo or I'll passo if

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you want to go explore the desert
and Big Bend. I mean, there's

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a lot of stuff you can do
that's already baked in here, that was

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here before Vegas ever was Vegas was
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yeah, and we'll gambling exists because
of that law that they passed precisely.

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And I feel like that is the
long term plan that's probably longer than Mark

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Cuban's you know, life expectancy.
But sure it's still a dream and goal

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of the city. But to make
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in the in the country, I
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argue that that's a possibility. It's
going to be a top three market in

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probably ten or fifteen years or less. We will be top three. We'll

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pass Chicago at some point. But
you feel a bitter cold that I agree

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with you there, But tourist destination
top three in the country. Yes,

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it's top ten in the world.
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and you can get a little superlative
maybe if you want. But the point

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is, I mean, there's an
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Let's go to Dallas. I mean, I could see that on commercials.

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You know, that's what you're coining. That's what I'm going with, and

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I want credit for it. Let's
go to Dallas. How great and easy

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is that? What's Las Vegas is
try something new or something what stays here.

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Take advantage of every second. You
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is. Maybe your quote can be
the official quote of Dallas. They change

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things quickly on you in this world. So let's go to Dallas. Yeah,

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enjoy every minute in Dallas while you
have it. We've said it.

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There you go. We've said it
plenty and we've referenced this study that we

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saw that Dallas will be the number
one metroplex in the United States in the

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year twenty one hundred. And that
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it's only seventy six years from now, and you know, they have to

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realize we're gonna be long gone,
but this wheel is going to keep spinning

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for a long time. So there
are long term plans for what this place

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is going to be, and we
are right in the midst of a very

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interesting one. I feel like with
the gambling and the decision to be ambitious

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and try to turn this place into
something like that, it's not out of

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the realm. Then the year twenty
one hundred, we have a strip right

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right over there. This year they're
synced up to the Vegas sphere and we

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have giant, tall, beautiful lit
buildings, casinos, galory. Whether that's

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what you want or not, well, you can move your ass out of

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town if you want to. It
seems like it's headed that direction. And

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we Jesus we did you know post
the question yesterday when we're asking, you

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know, kind of I don't know, hypothetically or rhetorically, do they know

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something that we don't? Do these
people that are investing in Dallas with the

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you know, with the speculation that
it's going to become a gambling community or

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a gambling hot point or a hotspot
in the country, you know, did

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they know something that we don't?
Maybe they don't maybe they don't have any

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inside information with him saying that you
know, there it's not really gaining momentum,

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but I guess it's better to do
it now. So whether it happens

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now, in five years or twenty
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to get in here, and at
least there's and look, there's never there's

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never really a downside to acquiring real
estate in this country or assets that appreciate,

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like sports teams precisely, like the
surest two things there are. Yes,

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Well, this is a good follow
up here. This is again Mark

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cubnth the Beinnskin Show yesterday. Would
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gambling is not approved? I mean, the company's called Las Vegas Sands And

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this is a great answer. Is
it possible that the Addamson's are like,

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all right, well let's move the
Mavericks to Vegas. No hell no,

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no no, And the NBA won't
let him anyways, but they have been

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very clear they wanted to be in
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become the fifth largest market in the
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It be insane and they're smart,
right, and they've been very clear to

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me, and that was an important
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there's no chance that they're moving.
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even if we don't get gambling approved, you know, we're still going

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to build, and they're still going
to build a new arena. See they've

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tapped out in Vegas. Yes,
go big play, And that is so

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logical and so smart because when you
think about the teams that Vegas has acquired,

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one of them was an expansion team
with hockey football, was a kind

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of a back and forth, weird
vagabond kind of organization that was in a

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small market in Oakland. The speculation
that the A's could land there another small

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market in Oakland that of organizations it's
not that's not doing well. Dallas is

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a huge market, likely a top
four in the next five years and incredibly

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healthy that those that arena is sold
out for every damn MAVs game, and

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it's incredible, incredibly lucrative. So
yes, it would be very foolish to

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consider moving into Vegas. And I
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the NBA would allow that to happen, not in the state that it is

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right now, and the projected state
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decade. The I mean we're the
fifth market right now. The largest market

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without an NBA team right now is
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who does have the Orlando Magic about
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uh and then Seattle Tacoma is thirteen
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Detroit, Minneapolis, Orlando, Denver, Miami, Cleveland, Sacramento, Charlotte,

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they all have them. It would
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number five out of there, that's
foolish for the league. And if they

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did, for some reason, we
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If they did that, so what
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and in fifteen years maybe the year
twenty forty one, that sounds fun,

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right. We build the cube rather
than the sphere twice as big Mark Cuban's

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cube the cube, and the cube
is this insane box concert venue, concert

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venue. The graphics are all around
it, on the floor above you,

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to the side, just like the
sphere, but it's a cube. What

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it's a little bit bigger than the
cube than the sphere. What if the

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cube is where the Mavericks play,
they play inside the cube. Wow cubes

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cube Take that, Dwayne Wade,
We got the real cube. Now see

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dude, I'm gon one more here. I'm gonna get to the Bally thing

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in the next segment as a part
of my scuttle butt, because he did

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comment, will the Mavericks be playing
on bat next year? Is there a

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solution to some of that? But
uh, this is very kind of a

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basketball related question here. Would you
go over the luxury tax? And how

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would that work? If Nico wanted
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player and there's luxury come to me? Okay? Do you then ask Patrick

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if it's okay? No, this
is like if we're taking on, you

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know, one hundred million dollars in
luxury tax. Yeah, right, if

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there's something. But now with the
new CBA, that's hard to do right

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right, and we're not you know, because if you go above the second

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apron of the leg just Sar's kind
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is they he'll be able to handle
it. He won't have to go get

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big time approval from people. They
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bit to you know, go over
the cap of tad. They'll be able

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to do it. Now there's big
rules that they go with that and paying

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money back, indulge me in play
the rest of that cut. If there

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is more left, you diminish your
ability to improve your teams. Yeah,

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so you know that's that's not near
the issue would have been three, five,

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ten years ago. Of course you
go way over. Yeah, it

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diminishes your ability to improve your team, but a little bit over. That's

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an interesting Uh. We didn't get
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got traded to the Pacers or that's
being finalized for three first rounders. I'm

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sitting there going, we don't really
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I could have been done. But
Sakham will go to the Pacers and they're

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gonna kind of go all in with
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I think that there's some things that
you get Luca Kyrie healthy, Grant Williams

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healthy, healthy, everyone healthy.
They just named and they got the Lakers

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tonight seven thirty five thirty game for
the Lakers. Kind of like that part

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of it too. It was a
triple header on a national TV or is

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this even a national This is gonna
be an ABC. Okay, so yeah

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this is but uh yeah, I
get to watch basketball tonight without exit out

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a bunch of porno and gambling sites. Well, why Danny won't have to

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get on porno and gambling sites to
watch the MAVs Next year we have a

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Bally solution, perhaps next on ninety
seven to one, The Freak