Can welcome to Floris. Monday afternoon, Price State Rets Baseball kicks off about
six ten with Lance Kansas City Royals are gonna be the next victims of the
Reds and they are marching for glory. Three games there than the three games
in Houston, then back home. But until then, Sheriff Richard K.
Jones was country when country wasn't cool. I can recall in twenty fifteen and
twenty sixteen, I had some doubts whether the Trumpster could actually win the presidency.
I said he can't win, And to be honest with you, Richard
K. Jones said he is gonna win. I didn't believe it at that
point, so I got the big question coming up with him in twenty twenty
four. Now and Sheriff Richard K. Jones, welcome again to the Bill
Cunningham Show. First, how did you assess as a law man. You've
been in law enforcement now I think longer than forty years between Lebanon, William
C. Dallman, deputy sheriff, sheriff, etc. So how did you
assess the indictment of Donald Trump last week and the fact that it's gonna be
a ragined Hey, here's how I assessed it. It's all bunch of bull
and there that from now on, every president that is the past president,
they're going to indie him, they're going to investigate him. It's once it's
out of the bag the genie, they'll attack presidents and past president in our
country. I really worry about our country. But I'll tell you what,
Donald Trump is going to win the primaries. He actually picks up every time
he gets indicted. Ye, his numbers go up and the santis goes down.
It's sad in a sense. I think that's the case. I listened
to Dan Abrams this morning with Mike McConnell, and some of the so called
experts say there was no there there when it came to Hillary Clinton, that
Hillary Clinton, that they examined it and didn't find anything. As a law
man, if you want to investigate, and you want to issue subpoenas,
and you want grand jury testimony, and you put everybody under oath, you're
going to find something out about any bud. And so the mainstream media is
saying that basically Trump is unique in the world, that Bill Clinton, Hillary
Clinton, Joe Biden, Mike penns did similar stuff. But it wasn't criminal.
It was no big deal. Isn't it fair to say that the mainstream
media is rooting for the indictment, the conviction, then the incarceration of Donald
Trump. Oh, sure, they want him to go to prison. They
would be okay with him dying. They do not care. But imagine if
it was somebody that didn't have the money that Trump passed. You can't defend
three hundred indictments and three hundred charges in every direction, do you? How
does he even stand it? And and all he wants to do is help
fight for our country and that's his right. Whether you like him or you
don't. Don't stop and try to choose who I get to vote for the
FBI, don't get to choose the sea, don't get to choose that Garland
guy who's angry because he didn't get the Supreme Court justice appointment. That it
will never adver be the same after this. They'll all be indicted, everybody.
As soon as Biden's done, they'll and died him. And if he's
still there, they'll and died him if he's not, And all they're going
to do is fight, fight, fight Biden and his family. That's the
most corrupt. And I've been doing this a while, I've never seen anything
like it. But if it wasn't for President Trump having the money and the
resources to go through with all this, how does he even stand it?
But don't bet me, because you will lose. He will get the endorsement
of the Republican Party in the primary. Mantis has actually went down right,
And I you know, I look at the guy that's seventy seven years old,
going on seventy eight years old, who has, according to the Wall
Street Journal, at least five hundred pending civil lawsuits against him and his business
in his family. Over five hundred lawsuits. Many are class action lawsuits.
He's getting sued constantly everywhere. Now. I don't know what the legal cost
of that is, but it's millions of dollars every month. He's got.
Between New York City and the Feds, almost one hundred counts of criminal charges
have been filed against him, any one in which he needs to run the
table. He can't lose one of them. If he loses one of them,
he's going to be sent to jail. He's going to have his own
wing of the prison with Secret Service protection available to him. This is absurd.
You know, sheriff, he's head of state, but he's also head
of government. I watched Christiana I'm on Poor this morning talk about how common
it is for a leader of a country like Benjamin Netzan, Yahoo or Berlsconi
and others to be indicted, either in office or out of office. Well,
America is better than that. Probably every president the last fifty years.
If the next president coming up wanted to go after the previous president, there's
always something president to go after him, and launched the investigation. In twenty
one, Bush forty three was asked a couple of times, are you going
to go after Bill Clinton for lying under oath to a federal judge, for
stashing his girlfriends all over the Department of Defense, on no show up jobs,
making one hundred and fifty thousand dollars a year, on hush money paid
to witnesses, on sex acts committed inside the White House, obstruction of justice,
and all that kind of stuff, and Bush forty three says, we
need to move on. We gotta move this big thing now. This morning,
Dan Abrams talked about the Trumpster. The Trumpster comes in in twenty seventeen,
and the question ask in a pejorative way was, well, why didn't
Donald Trump points special prosecutors to go after Barack Obama slash Joe Biden. And
at the time, the President said, Donald Trump, we gotta move on.
It's time to worry about what we're gonna do, not someone else.
But now the media is rooting and today I'm watching it. Today, I'm
watching the Today Show, I've watched MSNBC, CNN, Fox News, Bright
Part. It's the same stuff. Everyone is covering him to the exclusion of
everything else. When's the last time you heard about the southern border, or
about the budget, about the dead or about East Palestine. All these things
are done. It's the damnedest thing I've seen that Donald Trump lives under the
skin of the mainstream media. Hey listen, it's destroying our country and it's
go and once, like I said, the genies out of the bag,
it's going to continue to destroy it. And I've never seen anything like it
in my life. But I predict Trump will win the primaries. How do
you attack him? If you're a Republican, you're attacking a victim. And
at this point, most Republicans, whether you like him or not, feel
that he is the victim of our government. That's how screwed up this whole
thing is. We got China and we got Russia, all these things happening,
we got that crazy guy in North Korea, and we've got it's all
are I rays of loss money and they're going after Trump every single day.
But listen, Bill, they don't know how to deal with him because his
numbers keep going up. Right, he's gonna. I don't see how you
don't win the primary, do you? Seventy seven years old going on eighty
his first four year in office. If he was reelected, he'd be eighty
years old. And this guy should be playing golf and playing with the great
grandkids and not facing with tens of millions of dollars every month in new legal
fees. Now, don't get me wrong, it's a good thing to pay
lawyers. In fact, that's a very good thing. But they will not
let him go. I'm willing to make a bet with you that at some
point they will convict him of something because there's too many charges pending. As
a lawman, are you offended by the fact that state prosecutors and state police
are indicting a federal US president on top of Joe Biden, the Democrats who
run the Department of Justice, and they're all Democrats, want to make sure
that Trump can't be reelected. They want to lock him up before the election.
And even if he's locked up, you can still run for the presidency.
Listen, I'm offended. All Americans, most of them are offended this.
You got to watch what you want. And when you go after one
and you think you're really doing and this is great, but you're destroying this
country. We should not go after past presidents. And listen, the entire
time they started that I was spying on him before he even became president.
They had his phones bug Then they planted that FBI, the CIA, they
planted these fake a Russian clusion spent four years attacking him. How do you
believe or put up with any of this stuff. I think he's gonna he's
gonna get all these indictments. He's going to get all these charges. Just
think if he wasn't as strong as he was, and if he didn't have
his poll numbers weren't what they were, and he didn't have the money to
fight this, or he'd be in prison the rest of his life. It's
all terrible. It's an injustice and and people are getting to the point where
they're almost ready to revolt. They're so tired of all this in these states,
and the wokeism and the schools, and I mean, it's out of
control. The comedians can't make it laugh anymore, the TV, the news,
it's destroying the country. But something's gonna happen that will It'll go as
far as it can. Then there'll be a tipping point. And you watch
and see, you'll call me one day there'll be a tipping point. Mister
McConnell was useless. Haven't heard anything since he fail down. He falls down
probably more than Joe Biden. He's right along with Schumer and the President,
and he's so busy trying to get everything they want. Then you got McCarthy.
He's trying to do whatever he does, and he's got the others that
are controlling the other caucus. It's the Republicans can't get in lack in agree
on anything they do. The Democrats do. Before we talk about criming the
streets, Sheriff Richard K. Jones, Jack Smith, the special counsel who
was a Democratic hit prosecutor with the lowest learner in twenty sixteen twenty fifteen,
he wanted to file criminal charges against conservative groups constantly and his wife, Jack
Smith's wife. The prosecutor as a Democratic activist, what he could have done
would simply do what he's doing and simply issue a written report and say,
these are my findings. Now, let the American people decide yea or nay
whether you want to elect this guy. Again, none of us are going
to be safer if a seventy eight seventy nine year old Donald Trump is locked
up in a wing of a federal prison somewhere, we're not going to be
safer. He could have said, these are the findings of the grand jury.
Here's what we have located. This is what it is. Now you
decide in next November. But see the Democrats couldn't do that that they want
to lock him up now. Secondly, Sheriff, we're having a terrible time
wave just in the city of Cincinnati, a little bit in Hamleton County.
There's over twenty thousand shots fired each year in the city of Cincinnati. Because
a shot sparter, we can kind of know exactly what it is. You
have five hundred to six hundred youths that are basically terrorizing the city, and
which is a small percentage of young black kids, but they have disproportionate impact.
Can you tell the American people in Butler County, the two or three
larger cities, what is the criminal status of the crime issue in Butler County
compared to Hamilton County night and day, totally different. But we lock them
up. We have space here. We have good police, good prosecutors,
good judges. You go in these shopping centers, we have a little issue
out of the Liberty Mall where gangs come in there and they're trying to address
it, but we go after it and we will lock you up. And
look, if you go in Home Depot and Lows and these big department stores,
and if you go into Tractor Supply, if you go into all these
stores and all they're stealing them buying people. They ride up on bicycles and
they just shot and they even they just let them walk out the door,
and they sell it online. Until you start incarcerating and locking people up,
it's going to continue. Bit In Butler County, we're very fortunate, and
Hamilton County not so fortunate. Cincinnati, big cities, they have nowhere to
lock these people up and they know it, and the judges just turn them
loose. And I wouldn't want to live there period. Well, the other
thing, Lemon Lulu and I spoke to a Walgreen's female employee about this.
They're instructed, do not confront shoplifters. Right now. There's individual shoplifting happening,
there's industrial strength organized crime shoplifting, and there's also employee theft. You
put them all together and target a large department store now and lost about five
hundred million dollars in industrial strength shoplifting, which is done at that level,
and they're told do not confront them. What is your feeling about security guards
and in these large department stores who are told do not confront a shoplifter,
let them shop lift. What do you think about that? Listen, you
know what the security guards are there for. It's for the people that don't
steal, just to keep them from stealing them. The people who have never
been in trouble. They don't care about the people coming in. They have
trucks parked out down the street. The guys on bikes, the girls on
bikes, they come in. They load this stuff up, they sell it
like a penny on the dollar. And until you put police officers in,
they're not security personnel, retired police or police officers, somebody that can arrest
you and take you to jail. It's not going to stop. And it
just continues. I don't care what story you go to. You wonder why
your prices are upper evening, they go to Kroger stores, they go to
food stores. They're not stealing food. They're stealing to sell the food for
drugs and we and but in Butler County, it's still an issue in these
department stores because they will not go after him. And these people pull up
on their bikes, the Heroine drag, they load their card up and they
walk right out the front door. And when you go in to buy something,
you're paying for that because it costs more. Yeah, they don't care.
Yeah, yea. And there's some customers like Tony Bender and Boon Coust
to confront shoplifting. When he sees it in the store, he goes after
him. What do you do? What advice would you give the customers?
Or get angry about what's happening then when it take action? What advice would
you give Tony Bender about confronting shoplifters in Boone County. Don't do it because
the store will come after you. They'll prosecute you in those places. And
we had the same thing happened out here at the Walmarts in Thirfield Township and
the shoplifter killed one per has shot another. Just people in the store or
the security guy at the door that just checks your receipt shotting. They killed
one lady and not worth a cell phone or a pack of smokes or hell.
They locked it detergent up in the stores. Now, if you go
to get soap, it's locked up. You can't get tied. You have
to call the lady with the little key to come over and unlock it.
Before they can get it. They lock up all the anything to do with
it's got soap, it's got anything to do with the odor and shape and
cream. Can't even get the odor without them getting the key, and they
lock it up. It's the damn I've ever seen and it's gonna get worse
until our that woke society says. But I'm telling people, if you're in
the store, don't mess with it. Well they'll kill you, they'll stab
you, and the store will come out against you, seriff, we have
about thirty seconds from meaning, well, Donald Trump on January the twentieth,
twenty twenty five, be sworn in as the next president. Here's what,
doctor Dick. He will win the primary, and it's I don't know from
there on what happens. I assume Biden's got his wife going out campaign because
of what he cannot. He can't go out. He's a crook. He's
a crooked outfit. And you have to assume his wife is in on it.
And they all make money when this all breaks out, what they've done.
And he's one hundred and fifty years old. Donald Trump will win the
primaries. De Sammis will come in number two. All right, we'll see
what happens. Sheriff from Glenn checking in with you, and give my best
to Prosecutor Jack Smith if you see him in Butler County. Give him my
best. Hey, you mean Mike Moser. I mean Jack Smith, the
guy prosecuting Donald Trump. Guy. Hey, I listen, I will give
him my best also, Yeah, I bet you would, Sheriff, Thank
you very much. See my friend God Placa. Let's continue with them more.
We scheduled to call him from Senator J. D Vance in about ten
minutes at term of the Reds playing tonight in Kansas City on news radio seven
hundred WLW are you a business owner? CEO? Let's continue now a Senator
jd Vance live from Washington, d C. And Senator Vans, Welcome again
to the Bill Cunningham Show. Senator, first of all, you've been there
now about six months. And unlike others who are politicians that go in,
they go up to ladder, begin the city council, good to county commissioner,
might become the congressman, then a US senator, you kind of came
horizontally instead of vertically, which is a good thing. I wish more people
came horizontally. Well, what has amaze you and surprised you? And calls
angst in the last six some minds, you're six months into it. You
know where the bathroom is now? And what have you found surprising about the
USID? You know there are a few things. I mean, first,
on the good side, Willie, it's certainly possible to get things done.
You know, you have colleagues on both sides of the aisle who are interested
in cutting deals and making sure legislation actually moves and that, of course makes
it possible for me to get things done for the people of Ohio. That's
that's really important. But the second thing, it's sort of distressingly and I
think this is one of the reasons why I had, like a lot of
my Republican colleagues, did not like the Kevin McCarthy Dead Ceiling deal of a
couple of weeks ago, is that not enough people pay attention to the deal,
the details. So if you look at some of the top line things,
for example, out of that legislation, they sound pretty good, you
know, the first time we've had spinning cuts in a couple of decades,
some real efforts to rain in some of the worst parts of the Biden administration.
But if you look at the actual legislative text, it gives a Bide
administration a ton of power to waive some of the most important provisions. So
you do some good things, but then you give Joe Biden intilateral authority to
waive it. You've got to pay attention to the details. So actually,
that's something I take from my private sector experience, and I think that a
few more folks Capitol Hills should learn. Last night, I had a question
to you and I told my caller last night, I'd ask you this question
about East Palestine, and that is that you were the one senator that was
physically present. I don't think Joe Biden never showed up there. And you
had this demonstration where you dropped a little rock or some object into a creek
and suddenly the stuff bubbled up that looked awful. Where several months away from
the incident. And my caller last night from Western Pennsylvania said, we are
thoughts are being confirmed and that largely we're being ignored right now. And I
talked about with Senator DeWine. I'm sorry a Governor DeWine had done with the
Ohio Health Department. So for that caller who might be listening, what is
happening this afternoon, what's going to happen this week and next week? And
East Palestine relative to the train derailment, well, I give a lot of
credit to the Ohio Department of Health for continuing to monitor the situation there,
But we have some long term issues that we're going to have to stay on
top of. The biggest concern that I have Willie, and I've got a
single full time staff member who just works on This particular issue for me is
that we were really worried that the long term health consequences of this thing will
not become clear for many years, maybe even a decade out from the accident.
If you think about the perspective of the people living in the area,
they're not worried they're going to drink the water and drop dead two days later.
They're worried about what happens after ten years of exposure, and there's no
way to know the answer unless you actually do the long term studying. The
crazy thing that I've won willie that there is no organized in our federal government
to think about massive it is a six trillion dollars a year that we spend
on it. There is no organization that is able that is equipped to measure
the long term health consequences of some of these exposures. So that's what I'm
most focused on. The second thing that we're really worried about is just making
sure it gets cleaned up. So set it aside the long term health consequences.
You've got to get toxic chemicals out of East Palestine into proper disposal facilities.
I think we are close to being done with that cleanup work hopefully by
the end of the month. It's taken longer than it should have done,
but I think without us continuing to hammer the situation there, it may not
have gotten done at all. I watched some of the CEOs and town hall
meetings that you attendant, and the Norfolk Southern CEO beat around the bush about
buying out the town because many people, I can't imagine selling your home right
now in East Balastine, I would imagine you can't sell it. And so
as a consequence, what's happened to the promises of the railroad to make whole
again those injured by this, Well, even if you can sell it,
well, you're gonna sell it for wayless. And it was worth for Norfolk
Southern set off a chemical bomb in your town, right. So that's the
big problem here is these folks are going to suffer economic consequences totally aside from
the health problems. For a long time, you know, we we have
worked to try to ensure is that either the federal government if it has to,
or certainly Norfolk Southern on the first order, should be picking up the
costs for people who lose their livelihoods, lose their homes, lose their small
businesses or to your point, if they want to sell their house get out
of East Palestine, that Norfolk Southern will recoup the loss. They have promised
to us that they will provide resources to the people of East Palestine. And
what we've learned the hard way is we're just gonna have to stay on top
of them. We're gonna have to continue to talk to the people on the
ground. Sometimes we talk to people and they'll tell us, look, Norfolk
Sovia did exactly what they said they would do. Sometimes we talk to people
and they'll tell us Norfolk Southern have them. And so in those cases you
have to keep doing the work and make sure that Norfolk SOUTHNA is keeping its
promise to people. So it's case by case. Sometimes they are, sometimes
they aren't, and that's how we've handled it. Have you interacted with Senator
Diane Feinstein and Senator John Fetterman and are they mentally competent? You know,
John Senterman is obviously he is going to have long term health problems. My
sense is that he can't communicate very well, but he can he is fundamentally
mentally there. Look, I have some serious concerns about Dianne Feinstein. I
think it's ridiculous what they're doing. If you look at just some of the
things that she has said publicly, it's pretty clear. I think that she
doesn't know what's going on, that she herself isn't totally sure what she's doing
from day to day. She very clearly has serious health problems. And look,
this is not a Democratic Republican issue. To me, this is basic
human compassion. And I don't think that people who are represented by Dianne Feinstein,
and I don't think Finstein herself are well served by what's going on.
It's it's pretty sick. About a half an hour ago ahead on Sheriff Richard
K. Jones Butler County. Of course, you grew up in Butler County.
Now you live in Hamlet and County. As far as what's happening with
a Donald Trump indictment, what is your take on Donald Trump? But should
he have been charged and should he be the nominee of the Republican Party?
What is your take on the indictment by Jack Smith, a Democratic special prosecutor
against Donald Trump. Well, so I've endorsed Donald Trump willing, I'm not
changing my endorsement certainly not because of this, and not because of anything else
that I've seen. So I'm firmly behind Trump. I think he's the best
candidate for us to win the general election. I also think he's going to
be the best president when he wins. But I would make this pitch to
people who are not Donald Trump fans, whether they're conservatives or moderates or liberals.
What's going on here is fundamentally a political prosecution, and this should bother
you even if you don't like the guy at the center of it. Sets
aside your feelings about Donald Trump, this is about the American system of law.
Two issues that I would point out here Willie why I think this is
a huge mistake for the Department of Justice to go down this pathway. First
of all, I don't think that Donald Trump committed a crime for the very
simple reason that he has the right under Article two of the US Constitution to
control the documents of the executive branch. That's all he did. We're talking
about whether he misplaced papers, whether he stole papers. And my contention is,
as the president of the United States, if he doesn't control the papers
of his ocean and the bureaucracy does. We don't have a real president,
we have a functionary and because the Constitution gives that authority to the president,
he fundamentally should not have been prosecuted. But set that to the side.
Say you disagree with my constitutional view here, and you think that Donald Trump
committed a crime. I don't think that he did. But say you did.
If you only prosecute the Republicans who mishandle classified information, and you don't
go go after Joe Biden, and you don't go aftri Hillary Clinton, if
you don't go after the number of Bill Clinton and many Democrats who did this,
you do not have equal justice under law. You have politics masquerading as
justice. And that's exactly what we have in this case. In a matter
of Navy versus Egan, nineteen eighty eight Supreme Court case, Justice Harry Blackman
wrote that, quote, the president's ability to classify or declassify and control access
to national security information flows from the constitution itself. He decides, he alone
decides, quote unquote, doesn't that mean that if the president while he was
the president, and he says he did declassify all the documents that went to
Marrow Lago, there is no crime That's exactly what I think, Willie.
And here's the thing what people have pushed back on. So the pushback you
will hear from the left is they allegedly have an audio recording of Trump's saying
I could have declassified, but I didn't. Well, first of all,
let's pump the brakes here. I've heard a lot of selective leaks from the
Justice Department the last few years that have not proven out to be true.
So don't take their word of faith value. But what Trump said in twenty
one or twenty two about his declassification doesn't matter. Even if he said that,
fundamentally is not the issue. The question is what did Trump do as
president. We know as president he put these documents in boxes, he made
the move to take them tomorrow lago, he clearly treated them as declassified documents,
and his personal effects, his actions as president matter of hell a lot
more than his words as the former president. I believe he declassified those documents.
I believe it's the only reasonable interpretation. And because of that, this
prosecution is a sham. And because they are unanimous United States Supreme Court decision
said exactly the same thing, You can't have a bureaucrat determining in the bowels
of the Archives Office what is and what is not national security matter. The
President decided it. It's over now. Lastly, the d go ahead,
Go ahead. Senator, Well, this is is such an important point,
Willie, that I want to build upon it. They just take one issue
where even the New York Times is sort of on the side of Donald Trump.
We know that he made certain decisions commander in chief, where the generals,
Mark Million particular, undercut his decisions. Now ask yourself the question the
documentation of those decisions. It's fundamentally something we want the President of the United
States to control, not the bureaucrats. If the bureaucrats can undercut the president
and men control the documentation that shows what they did, we do not have
a president. We have a symbol at the head of our government controlled by
the deep state. This cannot stand, Willie. It's fundamentally weakened. The
people's elected president, Democrat or Republican. The president has to make these decisions,
not the bureaucracy. Senator vans Ukraine, You've been strong on this subject
matter this morning. According to Zelinsky, that the counter offensive has begun.
Of course, the southern part of Ukraine is now completely flooded. At some
point soon I would imagine the nuclear power plants will be exposed. There's hundreds
of thousands that are dead, and I want Russia to lose. I think
Vladimir and Putin is a mass murderer, he's an extortionist, he's a killer.
He's gonna rust for eternity in the bows of hell. But on the
other hand, can you tell the American people, what is our interest in
the Ukraine if it would spark World War three? Well, we have no
interest to it would spark World War three? World War three is preventing it
as much more important than any interest we have in the Ukraine. It's that
simple, Willie, and that can't be repeated enough. Look, I root
for the Ukrainians too. I think there are obviously an admirable and heroic people.
But the Ukrainian people is fundamentally a separate question from what we should be
doing in this regional conflict. What we don't talk abou about, Willie,
is the risk of nuclear war. Good point, Yes, the risk of
this spiraling into a broader regional conflict. Look at food and fuel prices in
Europe. Look at the fact that some of our friendliest governments, in places
like Poland and Hungry, important allies of the unit U States, their governments
are being destabilized because of the inflation caused by this war. We're not talking
about the refugee crisis, the hundreds of thousands of innocent people that have been
killed, the millions that have been displaced. The national interests of the United
States is to turn all of that off and depress for peace with all of
the diplomatic power that we have. It's the great failure of the Biden administration.
I hate to say it way too many Republicans that instead of pushing for
peace, we have constantly pushed for escalation. If we keep on escalating,
this is going to become World War three. It's a disaster waiting to happen.
And the more that we stay away from the path of peace, the
more we endanger the future of this planet for our children and grandchildren. Zelinski
says he needs a trillion dollars to rebuild Ukraine. Is the American taxpayer going
to pay that? Well, Willie sure as hell hoped on, because I
think if I'm going to spend a million dollars, then I'd rather spend it
on things like a border wall, on solving the fitting All crisis, on
ensuring a good education for the children of American citizens, and on so many
other priorities. Our country comes first, and I think it's kind of thick
that our leaders can't acknowledge that basic fact. Well, we have to run.
But Senator JD. Vans, I'm glad you kept the common touch there
in Washington. I would note we haven't touched on transgender rights for little boys
and girls being indoctrinated with sexual issues when they're seven, eight, nine years
old. I know your view on that, but but nonetheless, there's also
shocking allegations that it appears there's more to come to light soon on the Jeffrey
Epstein matter, which God knows the big time the Grand Pooba is involved in
Jeffrey Epstein on Lolita Island. I can't imagine when that comes out. Goes
right now on one of the JP Morgan companies are going to pay almost three
hundred million dollars to settle the Jeffrey Epstein accusers loss so the names can never
become public. Three hundred million dollars, And I understand some of the big
names mentioned include Bill Gates, etc. And it's disgusting that we have this
stuff going on, and in the Land of Freedom, an opportunity we can
find out whether the Clintons are involved directly or indirectly, or Bill Gates or
god knows who else. So maybe down the road we can find out.
But right now this is settlement announced of almost three hundred million dollars on condition
the accusers remain quiet. What's your view on that one. Well, look,
it's crazy, and we know without a shadow of doubt. I mean,
it's admitted. It's a public record that Bill Clinton was on the famous
Epstein Island, And look, we don't know what happened there, but we
know that sometimes there were some sexual assaults of children going on their actual pedophilia.
Yeah, so let's sort of step back and appreciate that we don't know
what our former president was doing on an island where children were sexually exploited.
The fact that is one of the most important stories in the country makes me
realize we have a very corrupt media. But we need to get to the
bottom of this. It's crazy, it's disgusting, and unfortunately Willie way too
many of our leaders appear caught up in it, and we care a lot
about the papers, pieces of paper and Marlago. That's the big story.
I mean, every day, day after day. Senator jd Vance, You're
a great American, and thank you for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show.
Thank you, Senator, thank you. Well, God bless you, God
bless America. Har let's continue with more if a line becomes available. Five
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But I'm bad, a bo bad of bold. Yes, i am
bad at the bone. I want to think again. Senator jd Vance met
him about about a year ago when he was running for the US Senate seat.
I thought there were many pretty good candidates running and I thought the guy
who would uh not change the most once he got to Washington would have been
jad Vance. And I think after six months the early returns are very,
very very good for Senator jd. Vance. So many issues, so little
time I touched on this with the Senator, And that is the JP Morgan
has agreed to pay almost three hundred million dollars to settle dozens and dozens of
claims by the victims of Jeffrey Epstein and others on the rapes of them that
took place while they were a teenage girl, and also several other crimes being
committed, including kidnapping, things of that character. I think next to murder,
most of us can agree that the rape of a child is among the
most serious offenses anyone could ever make, anyone could ever do. It's awful,
terrible, and this was ritualistically done by Jeffrey Epstein. And whether they
were Republicans or Democrats or independence, I don't care what they were. These
men abused these girls for personal benefit, and the girls were paid also through
Jeffrey Epstein and jess Lane Maxwell, directly or indirectly, and the truth has
never come out. In fact, it appears now it will not JP Morgan,
which was the clearing house for many of the payments of moneys to the
girls, while Jeffrey Epstein was free as agreed to pay almost two hundred ninety
million dollars is the number. But there's a special master appointment that will over
the next two years evaluate all the claims, then get releases from the victims.
And that means the girls will have to sign documents to the effect that
in exchange, I would think for millions of dollars, they will not disclose
privately or publicly the number of men they had sex with. It is well
known that Bill Clinton was a philanderer of great note, and that he frequently
went on trips with Jeffrey Epstein to Lolita Island, often in his Manhattan flat.
And it's amazing to me how someone like Donald Trump President Donald Trump,
may I learn underline the word may have mishandled pieces of paper, and he's
facing a thirty seven count indictment carrying up to four hundred years in jail for
mishandling pieces of paper that at this point are completely irrelevant. Of course,
the media wants to make it like the second coming of the massacre of the
Pulse nightclub, which was awful, and now that they want to make this
terrible event, But there's no media curiosity about whether the Democrats or Republicans,
business leaders or otherwise that took advantage of these teenage girls in a ritualistic fashion
for years. It's like, and no big deal, Let's move on.
It's unbelievable to me that this is somehow permitted and we're not going to find
out who did what, when, where and why. But I do see
Bill Clinton almost everywhere representing America. Joe Biden uses him as like an ambassador
without portfolio. Whenever there's a Democratic national convention, you got Hillary Clinton and
Bill Clinton kind of representing the best of the Democrat Party. No issues,
there, no problem. He speaks at every convention. And Hillary Clinton obviously
committed numerous crimes. When you destroyed thirty thousand emails that contain, according to
James Comey, a Democrat who headed up the FBI, the most profound secrets
the nation and has and Carlos Danger, which was the nickname so to speak
of Anthony Weener also had access to these emails, and about twenty four thousand
were destroyed. Another thirty thousand were not. And no reasonable prosecutor whatever bring
charges against Hillary Clinton, is what James Comey said. Well give that,
give the whole Clinton clan a complete Texas El Paso for pedophialism, rape,
destruction of documents. And these are the representatives of the Democrat Party. In
fact, Hillary Clinton every spring gives commencement addresses at Radcliffe and elsewhere, and
every time she shows up, thousands arise at their feet and just applaud.
This is great that Clintons are here. Yet when it comes to Donald Trump,
there's no crime that he cannot be charged with. And as I pointed
out with the senator nineteen eighty eight US Supreme Court case, which is what
about thirty five years ago, Harry Blackman, who will live in infamy he
was the author of roe versus. Wade, wrote in a nine zip ruling
that the president, and the president alone decides what is classified and what is
not classified. If he makes a mistake in that regard, well that's between
him and the voters. According to Justice Blackman quote and I'll read the direct
line that's relevant. The president's ability to classify, slash, declassify, and
otherwise control access to national security information flows from the Constitution itself. He decides,
he alone decides, quote unquote, And how many times have you seen
comments of President Trump that everything he took tomorrow lago he declassified. If that's
the case, absolutely, there's no crime. Espionage doesn't apply. And the
Presidential Records Act is not a criminal statute, it is a civil proceeding.
Unbelievable, but you would have thought that Jack the Ripper was sitting in the
White House for four years. And of course in New York State, they
changed the law while Trump was president, so Jeane Carroll could sue him in
a large thirty five years ago. He may have raped me in the dressing
room of a department store. I can't give you the place to time,
I can't give you the date, I can't give you the year it happened.
But the law changed so I could sue Donald Trump. Then he gets
hit with a judgment of five million dollars. It goes on and on,
it never stops. I had somebody asked me at lunch yesterday, well,
when he becomes the president again, he can pardon himself. Well, he
probably could, from federal violations, not state violations. He's under a multi
coount indictment on a New York State through New York City on felonies committed relative
to violating federal campaign finance that the City of New York's had no ability to
prosecute. But nonetheless that's what they're trying to do. And a federal United
States president has no impact to pardon violations of state law. And in the
state of Georgia, Fulton County City, Atlanta, Fanny willis the prosecutor there.
That's the Melissa Powers of Fulton County allegedly is going to charge him with
all kinds of violations in the state of Georgia. So the president can do
what the president wants to do. However, relative to a pardon of federal
crimes, he can't touch the state laws in New York or Georgia. So
I would anticipate then that maybe Mike Moser there might be Republican prosecutors when Joe
Biden leaves office. I want to indict Joe Biden for god knows number of
criminal offenses committed through their state. They now can do it because the glass
top has been broken. Many presidents have left office under a cloud of criminal
suspicions and no one has stepped over the rubicon and said, Okay, it's
time to a prosecute a former president. It's never happened before until Trump.
Now everything happens Bush Bush forty one obviously could have gone after Ronald Reagan for
a ron contra that didn't happen. In twenty one. When Bush forty three
become became the president, obviously stature limitation hadn't run on Bill Clinton. He
could have filed criminal charge and he said no. And when Trump took office
in twenty seventeen, there were some discussion about filing criminal charges against Barack Obama
slash Joe Biden. Trump said no, we got more important things to worry
about. Not gonna do it. This is the first time Joe Biden,
Democrat, first time ever, has weaponized the Department of Justice to go after
a former president who just happens to be the leading party, the Republican Party,
the best nominee in twenty twenty four. He wants to take him out
so he can run more or less unopposed again. And it's unbelievable. And
the media is all on the side, of course of the Democrats. They
don't raise these issues. You have to listen to Mark Levin and myself,
Laura Ingram, and it used to be Tucko Carlson. He's got a cease
and assist letter landing to his lap on Saturday to quit going on Twitter pay
to play because Fox News is continuing to pay out his contract, which expires
in twenty twenty five. Tucker is making about thirty million dollars a year on
condition that he not appear in the media, and he's getting paid. You
know, it's kind of sad that his voice has been quiet, but it
is. But the great bulk of the media. I've seen it on ABC.
They're following the Trumpster from New Jersey. Who's with him, who's not
with him? And how's that going to work out? And it goes on
and on and on and never stops. When he lands in two or three
hours in Florida, we're gonna hear all about that then tomorrow at three o'clock.
As the arrangement, we're going to be following the Trumpster wherever he shows
up, at whatever point. And this is all about paperwork that may the
whole case may fall apart at some point, nonetheless, but they'll do their
damnness to make sure that Trump is convicted. Their goal is to keep this
thing pending without a trial until November of next year goes. If there is
a trial and the jury finds him not guilty, he's the next president.
Amazing. Of course, if you find him guilty, he's still going to
run. He said he will for president, and legally he can. And
many say, including maybe even Richard K. Jones, the sheriff of Butler
County, that the Trumpster cannot win if he's under an indictment or secondly he's
been convicted. Then the trial in New York City is scheduled to begin in
March of next year, which is a bunch of bs there, because you
have the local prosecutor wanting to enforce federal campaign violations. Are you kidding me?
He has no jur urisdiction to do that. They just want to keep
everything pending through next year's election to make sure Joe Biden is re elected.
I don't know who's mentally more mentally incompetent, Joe Biden, Senator Diane Feinstein,
or Senator John Fetterman. Which of those three are more mentally incompetent.
It's an incredible thing we're dealing with in this country, and the media will
stop tomorrow. That's all they cover. Trump Trump, Trump, Trump,
Trump Trump. That's all they cover, which is Donald Trump. And he's
the poor guys like seventy seven years old is first full year in office.
If he's reelected, he'll be eighty years old. It's being sued hundreds of
times, and the legal fees have got to be millions and millions of dollars
every month. They want to bleed him dry. We'll take a while to
bleed him dry, but they're trying to bleed him dry financially as he's more
serious. Charges JP Morgan to pay two hundred and ninety million dollars the victims
of Jeffrey Epstein to keep those names quiet so that doesn't get into the media.
Just speculation, and that's it was Prince Andrew involved. Donald Trump's name
has surfaced, although not greatly. He goes out, would that'd be a
shocker. But Bill Clinton, of course, and dozens and dozens of other
rich guys that Jeffrey Epstein ran around with. Incredible let's continue coming up after
two o'clock today. Is a judge a mule, the par Thha p A
R A Judge. The par was one of six federal judges interviewed by Donald
Trump to get the Brett Cavanall seat. And he's written a book about Clarence
Thomas, The People's Justice. As you may know, I'm the voice of
the common man and woman and justice Clarence Thomas is the voice of the common
person. And he's picked out twelve cases that demonstrates the humanity of Clarence Thomas.
Will I will, I'll pass out if I see sixty minutes or CBS
or NBC do a great story about Clarence Thomas and the good he's done in
this country. It doesn't happen. They cover based upon party affiliation, not
upon success or failure. Let's continue and if a line becomes available five one,
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he's written a fabulous book, The People's Justice. It's all about Clarence Thomas.
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that. You have a lot of questions. We are here to help you
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I'm broadcasting. Yeah, we're talking. That's right. Hit it,
hit it to Candain State tonight, Candain City. Yeah, I come,
Prince have arrived, yes, sir, to Kasid Theater, a man named
Della Cruise, and they stink headed fats swimming there. Gonna give me one.
I hope not. I hope not. Ellie, stay away, stay
away, gets where's he gonna be? Sake? Seaton Vine behind otr that
even in broad daylight, being like a pinball and the machine going knocked ding
ding ding ding. I'm not talking about a railroad crossing saying how about Nick
Taylor draining a seventy dollars? Will tell you what? I watched that yesterday
and I thought that was one golf tournament that was never going to end right.
I mean him and Tommy Fleetwood were back and forth, up and down?
Was that Fleetwood Mac? I think so that was him? But he
is the first Native Canadian to win their National Open in sixty nine years.
Swinging the potter there it is, comes up with some speed. Now up
the rocks for the eagle, for the win. Tell the gop got trying.
That's over. Good deal with the eagle. Twenty twenty three BC Canadian
Open Champion. This dream, this dream to your exception, he's a I
going now when this gut dreams my time. That's a CBC radio. Oh
are you serious? Oh my goodness, glorious and free jim Nance. How
about Adam Hadwin. How'd they security treat him? Canadian golfer? Those body
slam his ribs might be hurting. That's beautiful. He's maybe the best golfer
in Canada. Adam Hadwin. He comes up with a followers champagne to celebrate
on the green and some security guy getting hicked him up tackle. I want
that guy on the Bengals. Whoever that security guy is in Canada, come
down here and play for the Bengals. That was a hell of a tackle.
And how about the mascot for the Miami Heat, young Miami Heat mascot
Bernie. Willie got knocked out literally and a little bit of a botsed halftime
deal, I guess with Connor McGregor, and Connor McGregor put Bernie into into
orbit, so the deal was, and then punched him twice when he's on
the It was like Mma style. It was like the guy you gotta go
to the hospital. So it was supposed to be like an act where you
hit the guy, you know, like like the movies. But Connor McGregor
said, nababa, nah, here we go. Here's the real one.
Right there, here comes that right hand boom. Is Bernie out of the
hospital? Yeah, I think so, Yeah. I think there's a vigil
for Bernie outside the Miami General There ought to be one for Miami Heat.
Gonna get hammered tonight, I would think. And but I hope so this
get get it, just get it over with. Connor McGregor lays out of
mat, same way with hockey. Tomorrow, Vegas wins. It's all over.
It's time to end it, Willie. The Stute Report is a proud
service of your local temp Star Heating interconditioning dealers time Star quality. You can
field Northern Kentucky called Tom Recton heating an air at eight five nine, two
six one eighty two sixty nine fts. Willie, let's see Alida la Cruz
got it done. The day after, he says, I'm the fastest man
in the planet. Second, no one in baseball could have scored from third
right on a groundball yesterday, right right, and he scores correct. What
if he was up there the entire year? How many more games? Oh?
They have one? Well right now, Willie, they're thirty one and
thirty five after sixty six games last year, the Reds are twenty three and
forty three, eight games better. Bingo and mister de la Cruz, I
expect him to be the National League Player of the week, if if,
if there's anybody better show him. He's hitting three sixty four, five walks,
three stolen bases for eighty one on base percentage in six games since his
debut Tuesday against the Dodges. Yeah. I mean, I'm just happy that
we were able to scare that we'll run to get the team to victory today
and the energy in this with this group is so high and the vibes are
really good, and I'm just glad that I could contribute out to to help
the team win today. Is that Ellie talking? Yeah, that's well,
that's a jorgey Merlow's the interpreter. He's doing it all. I don't care
what language he speaks. That man can play baseball and he's an eight tool
player. The heck with the five, he's an eight. Let's go over
the five. Two He done make any difference? He is? You know
what, I'll say this right now that I was thinking about this yesterday,
A lad Lacruz and his debut so far has got this city so excited.
The last time I think this city was so excited to see a player come
up was when they traded for Ken Griffey Junior from Seattle. Remember that they
got. He flew into Lunkin Airport, Carl Linder drives him into Stuts Bearcat
downtown does the big press conference. Junior is here. That's it. I
can't remember anybody else. It's over. Hailey de la Cruz, the best
one brown ball to short. They're coming home. De la Cruz sides in
safely. Contreris never got it. He couldn't scoop the low throw and de
la Cruz able to dive in safely at home, played with a go ahead
run. About that. You know they're not too happy in Red bird Land,
Well, they say, because they're talking about trading Goldschmidt and all these
other guys. What about the Reds picking him up? Well, I don't
know. And then the roads road trip continues tonight with a team that really
is bad, the Kansas City Royals. They owned the second worst record in
all the baseball behind Oakland. The Royals are eighteen and forty seven. They've
lost six in a row and nine and twenty three at home. Not good,
not good, and they feature the former Reds closer, the Cuban missile
a Roaldus Chapman. I did not know that he's playing. Happy to be
a Royal? Thank you. Here you go. Let's see Willie Matt McLean
remember him. He's been in the big leagues now for about a month.
They just had the first update of the All Star Game balloting. Don't tell
me. Matt McClean is fourth behind Arcia Lindoor and Bogart's fourth amongst shortstops.
In the first update for the All Star Game ballot. So far, Matt
McLean has two hundred thousand, one hundred and fifty two votes. Well,
I'm not sure he's better than Linda and I think and the only other guy
that's within range of Red at the other positions and Nick Senzela's ninth ninth among
third basement in the National League. But I guarantee you some guy by the
name of forty four day La cruz Ella will be rolling in the votes.
What they ken he? I guess he can't be on the ballot, but
could it be selected by the man? Would think so? I would guess
so would be something? And then and then from your good friend Joel luck
Up. I like that guy. Why won't he come in Saturday? Andrew
Abbott, another young player lefty first Ridds pitcher ever since the mound was moved
to its current distance in eighteen ninety three, to begin his major league career
with consecutive scoreless starts of at least five innings. First time for a Red
or anybody, Yeah, anybody, anybody, even Sandy kofax Or does it
again? He just had the volleyball team in tim held unbelievable. Andy Mack
and they win the twenty twenty three Ohio Division one State Baseball Championship Saturday,
but Willie tim Hel's up in a before beating Orange Old and Tangy Orange four
to one. That's a Crusader's ninth baseball title. They're tied for second most.
Now and oh SAA history. I heard the Chickster talk about. Elder
has twelve, Mercy Muller has nine, and the Dare Park has one.
So does Cole Raine Baseball. Yeah, MLS courses Late Saturday night, it
was a one one tie with Vancouver. So our men. At the halfway
mark of twenty twenty three, the Orange and Blue stand first place twelve one
and four, eight, eight points up on second place Nashville. Messi,
what about Messi? Well, he's coming to Miami in a deal, deal,
what about the what about the Joker? Novak Djokovic wins the French Open
title for a record twenty third Grand Slam title over Casper Rude yesterday in Petis
Now Wally wants to know is tim Held coming? Yeah, the studio Thursday
at one thirty five. They will he will be here with some players and
is he bringing the ball? But I no, no, you want the
ball. You want the trophy. I want the trophy. Okay, someone
else can keep the ball, all right, But Tim Held of Mueller haven't
won in eight years? Is that correct? It's been a while, I
think yes. So some Elder's got twelve. The Chickster, well he should
know. I'm not questioning the chicks and everybody constantly he said over the weekend
that Elder had twelve. I'm not Muller only had nine. Only only only
only only nine? But Tim Held will be here. What sport in high
school sports? As Mueller not want a title? And that's what I want
to know. Swimming? You know what? That's that's okay, there you
go. Now, I am Saint X has got the Home of Rocky boyman
have got what twelve thousand titles? Well, I am told if Frank Zybel
is going to erect a swimming pool on the roof of Muller High School and
really from ACR Concrete Concrete, they're going to put a pool on the roof,
and that Wally Sweeney may become the new swim coach at Muller High School,
but he's still going to sell cars. Absolutely. Well, maybe you'll
sell cars at the parking lot and you if you buy a car, you
get a swimming ticket. Like can you imagine Muller confronting Saint X in the
nudatorium? Now we're talking excitement. Amen to that, if that happened,
and then we'll put it on the radio with you and the rock calling the
action. I like to have deer park ticke up, swim Willie. Let's
see the Bengals open mandatory minicamp tomorrow eleven fifteen to one is the first workout?
Will he or won't he be there? Aka Jonah Williams, Well,
is he gonna play right tackle? He's got to show up. I don't
know. Is he gonna be there or not? I don't know. I
don't either. How about Tom Brady? Is that the French open? Look
to your right, he's in the ocean throwing footballs at drones and you might
see that he's hitting the drone somebody. And how about yeah? And how
about in French over the weekend Saturday, Lebron James gives the command to fire
the engines at the twenty four hours at Lamont. Gentlemen, start your end
French in French? What lbj what thank you? I went that's what I
said. What I still speak a little French? And he say, looka's
on. I think he did. Yes. Also on this day, Willie
and in nineteen thirty nine, Baseball's Hall of Fame opened in Cooperstown, New
York. First class Babe, Ruth, don't tell me? Oh how many
were? Still? Like three? Three? Yeah? Well you told me,
Babe, Bruce, Babe Ruth. I gotta go with uh, Honus
Wagner, Bengo. Yeah, how about Connie Mack? Nope, how about
Cy Young? What about Andy Mack? No? How about Ty Cobb Bengo.
So the first three were Ruth, Cobb, Wagner. It's not bad,
not bad, not bad. There were five or six? You weren't,
No, No, there was three. Also on this day, in
nineteen fifty, Willie Uncle Al the Kiddies Pal showed Premier Channel nine nine stands
for Me Home at Jennifer catch Mark. Let's say hid oh there my head
go Hi. Everybody? Were you on that? Yes? I did.
I went on a show a couple of times too. Yeah, Skipper Ryle
too. I want a prize with him, I assume in Kentucky. Let's
hear you seeing our happy day here we go, here we hit it.
You've seen as loud as you can ready hit it. It's a happy day,
a happy day, happy day, and travel. Thank you. Don't
get any better, Uncle Al, Captain Wendy and Skipper Ryle Yes, that's
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here on Thursday. Correct some of the players and the trophy well. The
other day. Also we say happy birthday to one of our former own,
one of our best news man ever, Jeff Henderson. Brant Branch Brandt Schultz
is a birthday today. He's the guy with the bear Brant Gotta go segment,
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no justice on the Supreme Court. Pleas received more condemnation from the critics and
the sayers and the sussayers, and perhaps the greatest justice on the US Supreme
Courts, Clarence Thomas. I've had the honor a couple of times having him
on the air with me many years ago, and I think largely now he
might be hunkering down a bit because of what's happening in the mainstream media.
And there should be libraries named after him, schools named after him. Bridge
is named after him, and it's not going to happen because of the way
the mainstream media has treated him. I call myself the voice of the common
man. To a large extent, Justice Clarence Thomas is the People's Justice.
And to confirm that a great judge in his own right, judge a mule
the par is written a book, The People's Justice, Clarence Thomas and the
Constitutional Stories that define him and Judge the par welcome, I think for the
first time to the Bill Cunningham Show. And first of all, Judge,
I would note that you've served many years as a judge, for about about
fourteen or fifteen years District Court judge. You're on the sixth Circuit US Court
of Appeals. Before that, you were a US attorney. You've been a
member of the Federalist Society. You were one of the six judges interviewed by
Donald Trump in twenty seventeen to take the seat you meet eventually going to Brett
Kevinall and you're one of the brilliant judges in America on the Circuit Court of
Appeals. But to get this thing started, why did you pick Clarence Thomas
as a person to write this book? In my left hand, which is
fabulous I rot it the last two or three days over the weekend. Can
you tell me why you picked him a subject matter? Yeah, that's a
great question, Bill. Thank you very much for having me on. And
what an introduction. I'm going to have to have my wife and kids listening
that they won't believe it, but I really appreciate the introduction. So the
reason I picked Clarence Thomas. Let me take a step back. I'm the
child of immigrants. My dad came over here with five bucks in a one
way ticket and had to figure out how to make a living for himself,
go to school, and eventually raise a family. So whenever I complained,
he said the same thing to me, this is the greatest country in the
world. If you can't accomplish it here, there's no where you can accomplish
it. So he would not accept any sort of whining or failure. Justice
Thomas's grandfather was very similar in that he would say whenever Justice Thomas complained,
then a young Clarence Thomas Hislor, who raised him, said, old man
can't is dead. You know how I know, I helped bury him.
And it's that type of mentality that we both grew up in and what I
wanted to know and what I started to study, is I was an originalist.
I became an originalist because originalism is the only way to honor the will
of the people. And Justice Thomas, now that Justice Klias sadly passed,
is perhaps the ultimate originalist. And so what I wanted to know is what's
behind it, what's behind originalism? And I didn't want to tell people that.
What I wanted to do is tell people the stories of the cases and
let people decide for themselves. Its originalism and us this Thomas's originalism in particular,
is better or worse for the country. And as the publisher says in
the jacket, even the critics may be surprised by their answer. What surprised
me so much, as you pointed out in the intro, is that we
often juer the critics, but they rarely let you read Justice Thomas's words.
In other words, when you hear the criticism, you don't see his words.
They paraphrase, they take out of context. What I wanted to do
is tell the reader. I assumed all of my readers would be intelligent people.
I wanted to give them the stories and let them decide for themselves.
So I picked twelve cases from the Supreme Court. I interviewed the participants in
the cases. I interviewed the lawyers, I interviewed the plainists, and they're
the real heroes. Justice Thomas is the protagonist of originalism. As you see,
we as judges are merely trying to discern the meaning of the people would
passed the law and how it impacts people. And it shouldn't surprise people that
when we do that, we honor the American people's will, and by doing
so, we often find it protects the little guy from the government. After
all, the Constitution of a contract with the government signed the American people gave
up certain things in exchange for a limited federal government. Yeah. And I
had a dinner with maybe one of the mentors of Clarence Thomas, not being
into len Scalia and a little Italian restaurant in Toledo, Ohio, where you
spend time as a kid, and I went to law school in Toledo,
and we have a great radio station and Toledo that listens to me every day.
And I'm having a dinner with him. There were four or five of
us there at a table, and after a dessert he would reminisce about cases.
He spoke glowingly of Clarence Thomas, and he said, many times it
comes down to two words. And I said two words. He said,
no matter what the issue might be, if it's constitutional, it's two words.
And everyone's leaning forward to Scalia. And he looked with those eyes at
his and said, who decides? And I said, Justice, what do
you mean? Who decides? He said, do we decide nine old men
and women in Washington, DC? Or do the people decide under the ninth
and tenth Amendment? He said, too many times activist judges say I'll decide
and take away the Constitution, take away the constitutional Republic, take away the
Congress. And so when you say who decides, isn't that the heart and
soul of federalism. Yes, that's exactly the heart and soul. And what
Justice Thomas or Justice Scalia have this great say? He said, I'd rather
have nine people randomly chosen out of the phone book decide the ultimate issues of
today than the nine judges in this building, meaning the nine justices of the
Supreme Court. And its point, he trusts the American people. Originalism and
textualism is about trusting the American people, and you see that in this book.
But what else you see in the People's Justice and Justice Thomas is the
People's justice is that he truly is. And you'll get to go through the
stories. One of the stories I'm sure you saw is about Warwick Dunne.
Yes, that's Dunn, who I'm sure your listeners know, was a superstar
football player in the NFL, one of very few running backs with over ten
thousand yards. He was five eight with a heart of goals. What people
don't know is his story at eighteen years old is the oldest of six children.
His mom was brutally murdered. She was a police officer, just take
money to raise a family and get them a house and a single mother and
she was brutally murdered. And chapter, the chapter called about Brumfield called the
picture traces the stories of the killer constantly challenged his conviction, and Wark Done
picking up the pieces, and it culminates where they meet in prison, where
Worth Done goes to see his mom's killer. Yes, and it's just it's
it's heart wrenching, and you and I know Justice Thomas cares passionately about people.
In fact, no great in one of them. She said, he's
a man who cares deeply about the Court as an institution, about the people
who worked there, about the people, what role, what role judged the
part? Do you believe that the race of Clarence Thomas has and the vicious
criticisms and the fact that mainstream media would never do a positive piece about Clarence
Thomas or his wife Jenny, But do you think race plays a large factor?
And the and the bovine schatology thrown at Justice Thomas. You know,
I don't know what goes into his critics mind, but you're you're putting your
finger or on something because they've called him the cruelest justice, stupid and uncle
Tom and a traitor to his race. And if you don't believe me in
the book, I have an endnot including all the criticisms because when you read
them, your skin will crawl. You won't believe they're saying this about him.
One thing, then you read the book. To me, he will
never get a fair shake in the mainstream meat because it doesn't fit. And
if there's more and more black conservatives out there who are originalist and think through
difficulties from through the prism of a Thomas or a Scalia. If more and
more judges and Americans do that, then liberalism is in more trouble than it
should be. I would ask you, as Justice, Thomas's identity as a
black conservative made a difference in your life because you're one, I think,
the second Indian American to be on the United States Court of Appeals. I
look at the way some Court of Appeals justices have been traded in standford law,
which is disgusting. But how has his identity affected you? Judge?
You know it's given me. It's empowered me to have the courage to always
do the right thing, and that's an important trait. I think it's it's
a little easier. I mean, people give us a lot of credit when
we have courage. It's a little easier for us to have courage than the
litiganst when you read this book and you read about Otis McDonald who brought a
case because he needed a gun to protect himself, a black American in inner
city Chicago, asking a veteran asking to have a gun and getting you know,
most people that stand up for rights or heroes, he was ridiculed.
Talk about courage. So it's a little easier for us to have courage when
there's litigants like that. And that's one thing Justice Thomas realized. And the
other thing critics don't tell you if he has, as you just said,
a black conservative voice. It rings through in this book. In The People's
Justice, it talks about his black conservative voice, and I think people will
be shocked. And it's his words, not mine, that are in the
book. I quote them, and his words so strong. When he talks
about historically black colleges and I'm quoting him, he says, it never ceases
to amaze me that the courts are so willing to assume anything that is predominantly
black must be inferior. Right, I mean, think about that now.
And here they're calling him an Uncle Tom, and he's saying, stop assuming
we're stupid because we're black, Stop assuming we need anyone else. We can
accomplish all we want to accomplish in the greatest country in the world. And
he did it. But can you talk about a one way ticket? A
one way ticket for your dad from India was a motivating factor. There's no
way back. Can you tell the American people give us a couple of minutes
on the upbringing of Clarence Thomas and why he's not some elitist now. He
grew up I talked about it. He grew up on a dirt floor in
a one room shack. His mom was making ten dollars every two weeks.
She couldn't raise him and his brother, so she dropped him off lovingly with
their grandfather, who raised him with a ruler and sent them spent all his
money, saved all his money to send them to Catholic schools because he knew,
as Frederick Douglas said, that education means emancipation, and so he understood
that, and he justice Thomas Sundays didn't get three meals, and yet his
grandfather did everything in his power to raise him, send him to Catholic schools,
and give him a chance to succeed, just like my dad made a
conscious decision when he came here and raised his kids here. My parents said,
we are going to teach you English first, even though it's not our
first language, because we want you to be on equal footing and be able
to succeed in this the greatest country in the world. And think about it.
I've met with multiple presidents, I've been appointed three times to the US
attorney, to the district Court and to the Circuit Court. As a child
of immigrants, my parents went through a naturalization. What other country in the
world could that be accomplishing. What other country could a kid from a dirt
poor growing up in a shack in Georgia rise all the way to the Supreme
Court of the United States. He's attacked constantly, yet anyone that knows him
knows he has this loving and warm personality, Justice Friar Justice, So to
my art, they talk about repeatedly what a kind and gentle man he is.
And you know, one of the sickest things, Judge the par is
the fact that Clarence Thomas is often accused of betraying his race. That is,
if you're black, you have to act, pretend to be in a
certain way, have political viewpoints of a certain type, rule in a certain
way, because obviously, according to the liberals and those angry at Justice Thomas,
being black means you must have a leg up constantly. And he would
find that awfully objectionable, that he's betraying his race and why he's attacked as
an uncle Tom, do you think Justice Thomas at this point, after thirty
two years on the US Supreme Court would takes those criticisms to heart and is
angry about them. I know it well. I know he would argue against
it constantly. But you think it hurts him that because you're black or an
Indian or a white you have to think and behave and rule in a certain
way. How offensive would you find that, as an Indian American that is
a person of color judged apart, there's something that you have to do and
rule a certain way because of the color of your skin. I mean,
I think we all find it offensive to say we have to think a certain
way. I know, if you tell your own kids they have to think
a certain way, they find it offensive. And Justice Tom has said himself
that he will assert, and I'm quoting from the book, my right to
think for myself, to refuse to have my ideas assigned to me as though
I was an intellectual slave because I am black. To state that I am
a man free to think for myself and do as I please, And to
assert that I am a judge and I will not be consigned to the unquestioned
opinions of others. And the People's Justice talks about that. He responds to
that while he may be hurt by the criticisms, I don't know. I
haven't asked him. I know he will never let them affect him because he
takes his oath to the Constitution so seriously and in the People's Justice. You
see that firsthand in his own words. You see it through the party's eyes.
You see what it means to the women trying to challenge Bill Cosby having
Justice Thomas on their side. How many times do you see that reported now
was full on saying it that he was saying, though it shouldn't be that
the law stops the victims of Bill Cosby from challenging his lies about them.
Well, you've taken choice. Yeah, he is what a judge should be,
has been, could be, and it's amazing. I'm waiting for a
positive piece on sixty minutes on some other national program, maybe the New York
Times or Washington Post, to a positive piece in my in his thirty two
years on the bench, in my forty years in talk radio, I've never
read a positive mainstream media piece about the upbringing of Clarence Thomas. His brilliance,
his ability to turn a phrase, the fact that he's originalist, the
fact that he believes in the Constitution, the fact that he's known and respected
by those around the US Supreme Court, that the fact that he's been cleared
of ethical violations repeatedly by the US Judicial Conference that has never reported they were
report lies into storaces, but never the truth. Judge the part. We
could spend all day on this. But how did the American people get a
copy of This book comes out nationally on the twentieth of this month, June.
But how did the American people get an early copy? Yeah, I
go to Amazon right now order it. We have a Twitter page they just
put up at ct const Stories. You can find it on Twitter. We'll
have all the reviews there. They'll have all the blurbs there. But you
can order it right now on Amazon. Hopefully you'll leave me a review and
Bill I'll come back and maybe your readers can send you some questions after they've
read the book, and I'd be happy to answer those questions. You can
pose them to me, or we can do it however you'd like. You
were the first radio show I got to do, the first piece of press
I got to do. I'm honored to do it. I wanted to do
it in my home city, and you made it possibility. So thank you
and God bless you for doing it well. You got an appointment in about
two months, Judge Mule the par and Uh, you've led a brilliant life
yourself. And because of the journey and because of the things that you've gone
through in your life and your family's gone through, I know that gives you
insight into the soul of Clarence Thomas. At the end of his days,
he will rest in heaven next to God Almighty. He's a great justice.
Clarence Thomas and Judge the par once again, thank you for coming on the
Bill Cunningham Show and doing me the honor of your first interview. Thank you,
thank you very much. God bless you. All Right, let's continue
with more. Bill Cunningham on seven hundred WLW. Hey friends, I just
got my new Kroger wireless phone and it's awesome. Plus it's saving me.
Thank you. A good pitcher, he goes tonight, he's like eight and
two against the Reds in his career. That about the missile coming out of
the bullpen tonight, and what about some of the bring him back, bring
him back? What about the missile bring the missile. I don't think Todd
Frazier, you said bringing back. I'd rather have Alexis DS. But Johnny
Quato is he's still around bringing back back. I don't know Jay Bruce,
Jay Bruce, bring him back? Lost one hundred games last year. Now
there, Maybe they're thirty one and thirty five last year, Willie, they
were after this year after sixty six games last year twenty three and forty three
games, eight games better. Well, I don't know what to say.
Thank god they're in this division. If they were playing the Landing Braves there,
they'd be done the un and done. Kansas City stinks. They got
to get three out of Kansas City. We got to go. They can't.
They can't. They get they can't. It's it's it's it's a sweep.
Used what he said? Right? How about Houston after that? Now,
let's see how good Houston is to confront the Reds. Always go when
it's always good, when we win, say give us some sports please.
We'll leave the student reporters a proud service of our local Tame Star heating and
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three, one fifty one twenty four. Who's going Weaver against Zach Zach
Rank? Correct, that's not good and the the uh. The Royals are
eighteen and forty seven on the year, second worst record in all of baseball.
Why would Zach Rank to play for the Royals? Well, he went,
he went for the big money they signed him. They are nine and
twenty three at home, and they've lost sixth straight. And of course they
feature the former red the Cuban missile a rolled Us Chapman. It's grind candy
good this year? Is he? Uh? I think I believe he's eight
and two against career wise against Cincinnata, but he had ball clubs behind him
before. He's one and two this year. A fishlow that they throw.
They throw a guy tomorrow, Jordan Lyles, he's oh and ten for the
Royals. Tomorrow got beat him up, to beat him up like kind of
like Connor mcgregors took down like like they hate mascot Bernie. Let's see six
ten with Sports Talk and Lance. Seven ten, you create Inside Pitch Kelsey
Chevrolet Extra Inning show after the game. Hopefully it'll be nice and late with
an easy reds kind of like the seventy two footer made by the Canadian Oh
about that? Do you see that? Rock? Oh? Canadian Open?
Canadian Open fourth playoff hole Taylor? Nick Taylor could become the next Canadian Prime
minister today. Seventy two foot or to win seventy fourth playoff hole. Bing.
So the other guys like I got the thing, Mummy, here we
go. What Tommy Fleet was? What about twelve feet away with almost the
exact same putt for Bertie for the second on the second playoff hole. It
was going right for the cup, it turned a little left. Now he's
looking at it, going all right, we're gonna go this way, it's
gonna go in. No, Nick Taylor stands seventy two feet away, right
in the cup. Cookie. Speaking of golf, I made my triumphant return
to the golf course today, first time in nine years the video Did you
go to the friendly Confines? You went to Weatherington? Yeah, we stepped
it up a notch from that slumming it over there a casec you know what,
went to a real golf course, a challenging golf course. So you're
gonna be here tomorrow. Rock do you want to challenge me on the cono
go picking up a golf club in nine years? I didn't hit too bad
as a father, you got no time. It's just zero none. But
I was out there on a headline an event by tender Mercy's, a great
organization helps the homeless in downtown Cincinnati. Want to figure Thank Russell and Deanna.
Those folks at tender Mercies had a great event. Lots of movers and
shakers out there. You hit them straight somewhat. How many holes did you
play? I only played like three. You can't play three holes in golf.
You gotta play nine or eight, way too many. If golf was
like seven holes, I could not ever do it. Jack Nicholas said,
if he had to do it all over again, a golf course would have
twelve holes the front, the back, three you know, six on the
front, six on the back. Eighteen started because in Saint Andrew's they had
room for eighteen holes. If they had room for twelve holes, all the
golf would have been twelve holes, which would take two and a half hours
to play, which is a good time and a lot less cost, a
lot less land taken off everything. Yeah, everything, Jack Nicholas said,
twelve holes makes sense. Now that would be impossible. Just can't do it.
Thank your reaction. Maybe l I veal change that liv the billionaire they
spend the money they call the shots. I knew it was expensive to sue.
The PGA tour thus far has spent over fifty million dollars in legal fees.
They were looking at a bill of two hundred and fifty million or more
plus if they lost billions of dollars in damages. So now the Saudis come
and say, I'll tell you what, Yeah, maybe the guys are Republican.
We can make that go away. And all again with a telephone call
from a guy named Done to the guy that runs to Live and they met
a couple of times and by the time they got the deal on a piece
of paper that then go to Monahan. They go to the guy. He
says, wow, they're looking at spending two hundred and fifty million and if
they lost billions of dollars in damages. They said, let's make a deal.
We are Republicans, and they struck the deal with the Live Saldi's are
going to pay all the expenses and says say because they can, and you
know, they just gave up a million barrels of oil a day, which
is seventy million a day, which is two billion a year a month.
They just said, to hell with two billion a month, we'll be all
right. Yeah. If not, the well still runs tomorrow seventy seventy five
million. And you might recall the Donald lost the anti trust. I mean,
I'm sorry, the NFL lost to the Donald, and they and the
jury gave him damages of one dollar that was troubled the three dollars. But
if they would have found in favor of Live that this is an anti competitive
etc. The cost to the PGA tour might have been billions of dollars,
would have filed bankruptcy and shut down the tour. So you're looking into one
hand, risks financial run. On the other hand, embarrassment Jack, big
Jack. We're talking you the Doe Ray and the me and the green salad,
salad of salvation. That's why the deal deal was struck. And the
Live now gets into the golf. They got the tennis, they got the
motorsports, they got soccer. Then a part of the Live. I feel
like I saw this on a video. Don't they encourage in like cheering and
yelling and all that sort of stuff. It's not like the short shorts and
shorts and fifty four holes. So you get a day off, extra day
off every week. They have private jets to fly these guys. There's no
winning in line at TSA. Get on one of the Saudi Arabian jets.
Here we go, and you get paid ten times what you're making on the
PGA Tour. And that doesn't even include valplexly prize money. Prize money is
on top of that's on top. Yeah. Well, like Haron Varner,
who won a tournament, had wanted his entire career four million dollars on the
PGA Tour. After ten years, he totaled four million. He wins that
tournament. With the entry fees he received, got thirty million dollars for one
tournament instead of four million. Can't turn it down? What do you do?
You can't turn that down. Flight for the New Jersey Generals if they
don't, right, that's what they want salary. Dave Lapham left the Bengals
to go do the world of Tronald Trump. Congress that'll say it's maybe maybe
you take the pebbles rock and make them golfers get him a seven hours and
asked what will He said the other day the boyman brothers out there. There's
nothing I can do to help him on golf. Nothing. I can't coach
him. I can't do anything. So there's somebody else in this room that
might be able to help him, a good sponsor to quit this radio thing
and not know what's happened. What is your fee for coach? Maybe coach?
Maybe coach Willie help him out the pebbles? Well, I got my
own crops. What's on the big show coming up? So? Um,
right out of the gate, we have a guy by the name of Joe,
a master stereo. He is a president of the Order Sons and Daughters
of Italy and America. That guy, that's right, he's a good guy,
great West Side guy. So you remember about a year ago the uh
what was it called the Capital Capital teen Wolf the Eden Park statue Romulus and
Remus members stolen. Yeah, um, well they seven found out where where
it is. But this group paid for a new statue to be made in
Italy. The statue is now done and apparently he's gonna give us an update
on the way back over here to be reput out in and they got the
original one. The original they because there's like it's a fairly famous statue,
and there's hundreds of Africas around the world, so there's plaster molds of this
that are still out there, old ones, and they use the same one.
You're gonna put it right back on the same spot. Well, I
don't I actually I don't know. Again, I don't know that. But
Joe's gonna tell us Reten. You're a Target department store. Watch how much
how much money flows out of there every day? People shoplifting. It's terrible.
What didn't you say it was two hundred thousand a year. Somebody says
five million. Target has lost first store first, Yes, five hundred million
overall. Rock Thank You segment in honor of Rocky Boyman's golf swing get us
out of the Stewart Report, William honor of Nick Taylor sinking that put on
the fourth playoff hole in the Rock learned something about for the Canadian Open yesterday
in his golf game. Trump arrives in Florida. This will be like the
the White Bronco OJ there's the media is going nuts, got their hay,
got their hands salivating. We leave you with the immortal words of the student
support was of a wolf statue feeding Romulus and dreems right, and so it
was kind of it had teeths. We're gonna get tanyas comments and maybe she
can keep him out of the gutter. At this time, one had tea
teats tee, what do you mean tea tea teats like? Oh, like
breasts the pumpkins pumpkins for the wall on the wharf seven hundred. W Welcome
you boy. This September, our iHeartRadio Music Festival is coming back to Las Vegas.