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Hey. Good afternoon, I'
m Karen Ramirez. We are in one

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more issue of designing, I am
here in D radio the design in your

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ears and we continue here transmitting the
end of the season of the first season

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of the year, here in field
work located in San Luis Potosí one hundred

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and thirteen, here in the Colonia
Roma Norte, that I invite you to

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turn here to the Shorrón, because
it is divine. It' s pure

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high- design mobile. So come
and take a little turn' cause it

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' s amazing. And we are
already about to say goodbye to them.

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It doesn' t always happen,
Dad always at once to listen to me

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raul. This does not always happen, but the season of a few holidays

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for us, because autumn is coming
and you already know that it is loaded

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with many activities, of which we
are participants and because we are already preparing

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in these months. But don'
t worry because Rie Radio isn' t

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going to stay that way alone,
because the two new programs with Emiliano and

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Lorenas are coming and they won'
t be lost again in these summer months,

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from the summer Hindo to start with
the whole autumn in the activities.

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And I' m very happy because
in this closure there' s pure prowess.

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It' s a talent that I
said has to be with me.

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Yes or yes, and I encouraged
them to give them a message in instagram.

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I said to see if I hit
and hit guys. Here' s

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the popular design workshop guys with me, and they' re Jonathan and Gaby

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and Gaby. How they' re
doing. Good. Thank you so much

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for the very happy admission to be
here. Oh, I' m not

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happier to meet you. No.
We hadn' t met. It'

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s the first time we saw the
faces exactly were we followed you in nets

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ay ay ay ay. I fa
published pure barbarity. I said bear what

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a barbarian really let me know or
something to publish things we have. That

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was not and besides, it gave
me a very nice surprise because Johnathas told

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me a short while ago other backstages, which is one that he listened to

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us from the first chapters of Dirray. I' m no longer crying and

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God, no sleep and not really
how you guys are, how wonderful to

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have you here. Well, thank
you, it' s nice to be

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here with you, and I'
m also honored that you don' t

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have us and that you consider us
talented people, but that we' re

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not that many. Of course he
does, of course he does, of

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course he does. Believe it because
you really are. I' ve been

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following them and I' ve been
following them lately, just like I don

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' t know at what point I' m sleeping for not inviting them to

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the podcast. I mean, I' m falling asleep right now. But

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good thing you' re here and
I' d really like to start this

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conversation by asking you who GabrielaÁndale
is this time, because Gabriela is a

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proud Mexican woman. I am a
chimica, graduated, of design, integral

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of fine arts, because it also
likes art, color, textures. Enjoy

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going to beautiful places accompanied from here
by Jonathan rather nas this, because we

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do enjoy very much. That'
s not those little salts that you say

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visually, they don' t make
you happy the day enters also yes,

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they nourish you not as a designer, as an architect, because they also

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make you think many things. Of
course very well, Gaby, who is

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Jonathan or Nas, which is that
you like the most to be told,

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because everyone knows me as Nas,
all the exact ones. I mean,

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no one knows me as Jonathan or
your mom. The only one who calls

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Jonathan is just my mom, she' s the only person. So everyone

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knows me as Nash, because since
I was kids, my friends gave me

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this nickname for cutting my name and
because I didn' t stay ok and

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Nas is a very fearless person,
extroverted, curious walk as an observer.

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I really like seeing things, watching
the bike out the window experimenting with new

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things, daring things that maybe people
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I don' t also love the
issue of identity, the Mexican tradition,

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because since, well, when we
went out of good, I tell

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you that I told you that we
lived in Chile for three years and,

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unfortunately, when we left, because
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not Mexico, we realized that Mexico
has a lot of things that we

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don' t take advantage of and
that we don' t value. So,

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when we come back here, which
was just about in the pandemic,

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because we also shut ourselves down and
then we said what we have to do,

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that is, we have to do
something, that is, we can

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' t stay without doing anything,
because we arrived at a pandemic without work

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and we said what to do,
we have to occupy, there I think

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they are something and there was also
a workshop with design. So he'

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s four years old, he'
s a popular Nacho design workshop with the

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pandemic. Yes, in fact,
we were born rather like a rabbit studio

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or ok almost out of college.
It' s just an adventure. There

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you go, but try it on. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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I want to know first, on
the other hand it' s the

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one that already intrigues me, like
rabbit to see, let' s prepartes.

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Yeah, Gaby, tell me how
you got involved in studying what you

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' re dedicated to. You said
what he calls me about that I'

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m going to get him in full. Why. Well, look, it

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was weird, because first I wanted
physics or robotics ok and because I didn

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' t stay in school no,
and then I kind of think I don

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' t know, but apart from
something like that I said, because you

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don' t go, no,
that' s like it was several things,

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my mom just told me and why
not. Design no, my uncle

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that this restorer and moralist that I
now live in Chile studied in crafts,

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is that the school of design of
fine arts perhaps no longer accepted in one,

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the same series. OK. So
he, then, always kind of

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took me to his exhibitions, that
is, I was always like there in

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the ambi and this, because I
liked it And then, just he told

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me why you didn' t go
into the design of fine arts. And

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I didn' t even know her. I didn' t know either,

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I just knew the face wasn'
t there and this wam too. Well,

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the joke is, I tried to
take the test. And for this,

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then, I didn' t stay
either, because it was very difficult

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to enter, it was practical and
theoretical the examination I' m like very

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limited. Then I went to an
art initiation school. It really helped me

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a lot. It also belongs to
fine arts. He' s here for

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the doctors and that' s where
I went for a year and just to

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a teacher who gave me a drawing, because he helped me a lot to

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form my portfolio so I could get
into design school. And then I'

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m still there, so I'
m still there. I liked it very

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much because, because it is integral
design, not only graphic, but also

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industrial, textile, publishing. There
are workshops, there is not that then

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to me that I liked also to
grab the tools. So, super good

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for me he doesn' t hear. What good, then as very complete,

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super complete, Yes, very well, truths that yes more, how

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you entered the architecture, because I
think I started from little to do,

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as I always said curious, to
disarm the things of the house. I

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' d decompose something or it wasn' t broken and I was the one

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who put his hand in it.
My dad always had a lot of tools

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at home. Then I was very
curious to do the same thing as my

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dad did, that is, compose
things and then I disarmed, sometimes composed

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them, sometimes decomposed them. No. Then, from there, I started

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to do quite skillful with curious hands
with tools and bought me many away.

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Okay, so I really liked putting
things together. And like from there I

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said well, what something I didn' t go into after the water machimilco,

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thinking that I wanted to be an
architect, thinking that it was going

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to be little houses, not that
I was going to reveal so much very

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well exactly, but just like through
this curiosity of doing things, I'

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m always doing as little things.
Never focus quito, for example, Gaby

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always on his birthdays I arm something, a scenery for him to have a

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different time. Oh, like my
dad taught me a lot about that too,

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because he always made us themed parties. So he really liked making us

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set, that little toy stuff.
So I said no I mean, this

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father, I like I have tools, I have the skill and I said

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well, let' s give them
the architecture. I think it' s

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creativity and that' s what I
like very well. Gaby' s got

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that better Christmas. Yes, it' s also clear what already, but

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I' m also ready that more
than yes. Besides, my mom also

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means, in the family there'
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' t one n ah Ok three. The first. In fact, really,

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like my family generation, hardly anyone
was professional until our generation, cousin

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we started graduating, but no one
design or everyone was more like the business

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trade issue Ok. So that'
s when they told me well, you,

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what you' re gonna do about
your video. Okay. I like

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this. I think you make stables
fix it I saw them with their briefcases

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and I said I want to be
like them that do this kind of thing

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and that make the little houses not
legos, but already real. Wow very

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well manifesting yes is the gy decreed
to hear what and what happened to you

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or well, bon Gaby, right
now, after the little university bubble,

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that happened there. How you entered
already professionally, because Mira was also funny,

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because just in my thesis at the
University this one along with my partner

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I told him listen you know that
what is this set of National Design Award

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Design Mexico, that you think if
we put the project in, no,

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then yes, we said this,
we got the design. The project was

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this for a museum that is in
Xochimilco, which is the Archaeological Museum of

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Santa Cruz, and we put together, because the graphic identity, diffusion,

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not in fographies, also signetetic.
That is, it was very complete and

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from there we did not expect them
and we won the National Design Award for

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the best thesis ora right there because
we already had as an idea between Nasí

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and me to go to Chile,
to visit my uncle, to be there

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and see what happened. And this
one, we ventured. It' s

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nothing, he' s quitting his
job. I finished the project and this

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one we left for Esch sent his
car, not because I didn' t

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win a prize. Oh yes,
I had to sell my car to be

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able to, to good fortune I
lost the prize and we left. The

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idea was to be there a year, six months or six that gave us

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split ok entered into three, turned
into three. Eat with friends, well,

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don' t forget one poyar j
we do, friends. No.

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And there, just this because we
already started as I told nas hears,

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because it is how doctors go out
and put their offices. No and one

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as a designer and an architect,
because he doesn' t throw himself like

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that. Not to have also his
studio, his architect' s workshop,

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of design. And that' s
kind of where we started, not just

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finishing the race. We started with
the pedestrian eura, not that it was

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like our first before we left here, we also entered a contest of a

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pedestrian congress that there was ok here
in the Merced and sent a design to

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make paint a pedestrian saura. Then
we were also chosen and painted a pedestrian

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seura. And this one already after
we went to Chile, nothing. That

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' s good, yes, and
there in my case, because that'

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s where I started as my professional
life. As you say, she'

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s either going to run or she' s just graduated and won a prize.

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Yeah, you didn' t sell
the prize. I didn' t

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sell the prize, of course.
I went to spend it there, but

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Salta is fine, all right,
she liked well spent. Let' s

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not blame you, yes and swim
how he started his professional career, because

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anyway, after we went to Chile, we thought we' d just leave

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for vacation. Not in the end, because we met the Beto, who

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is his uncle and he began to
share with us the theme of design,

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art. And in a very small
city called Chillán, near conception, because

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there were few exhibitions and when we
went, they invited us and one day,

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walking in the center of that city, I passed and saw an architecture

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office walking and I said look,
here is an office. Then I touched

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and there was no one. Then
another day after we were exact, we

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went and there was someone. Then
I went and went to ask for a

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job. Then they gave me work
and we made houses of wood with earth

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ok. Then there I started to
do, like all the executive projects of

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the houses we were doing, construction
with wood, stuffing with straw with land.

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The truth had its super interesting,
because I too after social service,

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I dedicated myself to doing it with
traditional constructive systems. Ah very well,

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then I fell as I went and
started to work there and started to work,

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actually laying flattened. They hired me
to throw me to land plans because

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they knew that I knew the techniques
and then they told me hey, I

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don' t mean to go to
work in the office and they said I

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would be father. And then I
started working as an architect, look at

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what a father. I have a
question. This doesn' t come in

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the office. How they knew each
other. I want to know why I

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said well, he' s in
the gua. I' ll take it

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from you as I die I don' t know it' s soap opera.

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Ay a chapter of the race,
s fits me and prepares the Telitas,

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because we went in the prepa,
we went together and Gaby wanted me

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a lot, but I actually talk
drool at the party and in other things

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and skating then, I have always
been very moved, not at that moment,

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like I didn' t feel like
having a boyfriend. Oh no,

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and after I caught her, like
I said, but after a year she

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' s gonna regret it, after
a year, watching TV on Channel 11

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I saw a girl come out at
an event called the rather chosen flower and

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I told my mom I say I
know, I know her and I say

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Gaby and I was at events.
Then already after, already after I'

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m famous and enriquemos the Latin did
not clear I wrote to her and yes

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it was the pole to that was
of congratulations, congratulates, but then fell

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to her. She, yes fell
on me no, yes, no,

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right now, yes, I can
think as a rite of how she says

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or can hear that, but so
it is picture, she n she,

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yes, I fell, but this
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at what point you said to see, yes, we function as a couple,

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but also intellectually and at work we
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what time was it because we were
going to see it was in Chile,

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it was in Chile, yes,
yes, yes, I mean, we

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arrived in Chile, because it also
did not work in Tourists. We'

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ve run out of prize, we' ve already eaten the car, we

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' ve already said what we'
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going to work ok ok. So, yes, this is just a friend

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of my uncle' s who recommends
us to a lady. This was like

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the first one, not like the
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and this one didn' t say. Not because she' s looking for

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not someone who wants to remodel my
façade, to remodel its façade. And

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we thought you and us, well, yeah, not sure, just what

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we dropped as a hannibal finger and
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very simple. Actually it was just, as well as morals, painting and

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inside also something very simple that I
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there and from there this started us
as we were, we started, we

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made the collective that is called Holy
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our house, we had Mexican food, look and we had talks about subtraction

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of the painting design. That'
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Then that’ s when we also
realized that, as we could do interesting

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things in sets, as well as
food. If we start over there and

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then they looked for us to make
another façade of a nail aesthetic. It

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wasn' t the cinema first,
it was the rest. A hundred of

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us did some nail clogging. Maybe
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as it is a very conservative society, as they are afraid to experience,

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then we brought as a more avant- garde idea, rather they kind of

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came looking. Listen I want the
design of some tarpaulins, this prints and

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we already said, well, no, why not, that is, why

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don' t we show you the
then that' s not funny to us,

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gasoline, no, if it'
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for the price is not. And
yes, we just put together the

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branding and put together the design of
its façade orale from the center of this

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one not because it is, it
is very small. It wasn' t

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a corner, it was mounted in
the exact center. And there, then,

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Gaby, too, as a designer, hits the chart a little bit

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more. She is more dedicated to
doing this whole branding theme, graphic image

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and all that. And I'
m the one who gets the most into

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the tool or the one who makes
the pain of texture. Yes, I

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' m the mara. Yeah,
yeah, yeah, yeah, I believe

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you. The truth is, yes, because right now we' ve made

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the altar and we' re done, so then we' re gonna make

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it. In the end we all
got him in. Not then. There

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too, Gaby loves to grab the
tools. Even later in another project that

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we made of a facade in a
cinema, people passed by and said they

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looked good on something. And like
because that reason tools, not that I

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' m a woman and why you
go to what they' re tools if

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we' re at seventeen, or
that then, I mean, Gaby'

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s always been thrown. Not that
mass of tools, because there we do,

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I mean, we do match,
we don' t match everything.

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Yes, I' m very angry. I love you too, we crashed

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there. No. But then,
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But, right now, they'
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right now, we' re coming
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right now, we' re going
to start with marital problems. I

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said no, what else, but
it is good that they do not macha

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in everything, because I have always
said that in a society and I say

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it from experience, it is that
if they always think the same is that

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one is left over, then they
do have to think very differently in order,

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therefore, to have diversity of opinions
and views. Not then it'

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s very good that they have that
just to be pulling back on us.

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So thank you, but because everything
flows, then he' s very father,

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that well, I really like him. And then they started with some

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rabbit. How' d that go? I study rabbit, I study rabbit,

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what happened there, like why.
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' cause I like rabbits. Okay, I' m a fan of

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having a rabbit. I' ve
never had it, but I want to

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have it I don' t give
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This was the season everyone was studying. I don' t know what

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I' m studying. I don' t know it was everything. He

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knows what it' s not.
Andres Aha writes very well ok Ok So,

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daughter let' s study Rabbit,
you are the rabbit, I am,

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the study and the net aha or
what this is like. So that

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' s where this one was born. So those projects we did in Chile

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were with studio and rabbit ok and
then how it changed the name. It

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was when we returned here that it
was already Pandemia and we decided how to

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open it as it was or a
workshop and that here we are already the

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workshop that was already like a workshop. We said what name, because we

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put the workshop in Sochimilco. We
also wanted to get a little out of

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this area of Rome. There you
are congratulate this one, yes, no,

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that is to say, yes,
it was difficult, no, how

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to start there. The road has
been difficult and just there came the name

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of a popular design workshop. All
right, there' s congratulations to centralize

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the city center. Yes, the
truth is that because there are already many

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when when the pandemic forced us to
have our own workshop and we wanted him

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to put the popular design workshop,
because also the design has to be,

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it would have to be for the
majority. Not exactly and we loved it

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good. I love that Chimilco,
because it has a lot of things,

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it' s traditions, culture and
entity, landscape. Then I told him

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today it is perfect design and that
we share a little of what we know

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with the people of our locality.
All right. That' s why it

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' s also called a popular digna
batalle. People would say there and workshop

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that they' re fixing mechanic workshop, because we really recited a locothito,

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it was a bike shop. Okay, we set it up and across the

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street it was our office and back
it was the tool shop. Then we

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have a tool for carpentry, mechanics, graphics of all of them. Or

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we really started doing a lot of
design stuff. OK, yeah, what

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comes in, so you know how
to do this, no, but you

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tell her that yes, yeah,
that' s who we all are.

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So that' s how we start
and parents people kind of start realizing that

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they can also have access to design
something more thought out, not clear and

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that we' re kind of globalized, you don' t know what I

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do. Right now the rome,
the countess the girl, kiso chapultepe and

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then being in that space, because
they were like that super has something clear,

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not and I congratulate them because decentralizing
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also from the design standard that only
a certain range of people living or having

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a certain economic level can come to
have some design in their homes. No,

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or you can hire an architect for
a remodeling or something, because usually

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in certain guilds I do. I
don' t or contract to bathelly puns

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self- construction exactly, but I' m very happy that they decentralize it,

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because that' s the point that
design has to reach everyone or the

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majority, not just a certain economic
standard, that is to say it'

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s very fatherly and it' s
good that they have it and that they

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soak it with just the popular stuff. Yeah, what you guys have a

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lot. That' s good.
I' m so happy about that,

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so good of you to invite them
to that too. Another curious fact was

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that when we were in Chile in
the seventeenth, when it was the earthquake

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here, because others were there and
we didn' t know what to do

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if we returned, but from there
we made a collection for life father,

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and I also communicated with my friends
and you see that in San Gregorio the

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subject was very, very cannony there. Then we try to do as a

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group of friends who can help over
there. Father, I kept the truth

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with great desire to come, to
help and to rebuild homes of families,

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because, unfortunately, they are the
people who sometimes have less access to a

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house worthy, of course, for
economic or social reasons. No, but

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I did stay with that desire and
when we came back, because this happened

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and I said, that is,
I was delighted to be here, wow

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what a father, how good I
am, they are very grateful for having

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this initiative to be able to help
from wherever they are, because the help

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was needed here a lot and good
that they had that initiative. Maybe there

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is no body and soul, as
my meal details says, but yes in

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question of moving in some way and
that good. I' m so glad

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that speaks very well. You will
see many thanks for doing so and,

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above all, in the Community where
you do identify very much and which was

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also terrible to you that everyone was
coming here to Rome. And it'

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s not like there' s also
come from behind here, not all of

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them back, because it' s
hit hard enough. So it was a

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subject there, but I' m
very pleased with your initiative. I applaud

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them very much. And a parenthesis. That day of the earthquake, the

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nineteen is my birthday or more earth
I saw is not would be the worst

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birthday of my life. But it
reminds me that you celebrate them, because

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of your petijo is a moment is
that not anyone. That day he gave

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her the night before made movement,
the exact birthday date, that' s

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exactly what rumbles, But I'
m afraid, because no one wants to

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go out with me that day.
It' s just that I' m

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not gonna have with evol anymore what
I have about a week later. Ah

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wey yes, because if not,
it is that you changed it like the

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granny so that they have two cos
to do on the birthdays of sectors that

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is my saint, is the other
exact millon. So, I do it

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more or less like that, but
that' s good, I' m

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very pleased with your initiative. And
how good that you' re decentralized and

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I want you to tell me how
it is, because I' m holding

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quite the thread to how you work, but I would like you to detail

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it more how it is when the
design process of you comes How is it

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that a project doesn' t come
into your hands and you' re developing

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it, because you have the skill
of architecture, but here my weasel has

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the life of design look, but
here that sprouts the hands, then,

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since you arrive, how are you
unfolding it? What the process is like,

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because first conceptualize, not understand the
client, not also talk to him,

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know how he wants, but also
how to guide him. No,

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because many times it is not what
they want, but they need to sound

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to me not and then to know
it in walking this, for it does

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see references, for also how to
see where we stand, not or who

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the person is and where I is
from. I really like that context thing.

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What depending on the context in which
it develops, even if it is

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a graphic design, I really like
how to grab details that we might not

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notice. For example, we made
a logo with a textile icon. So

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I really like to work like from
these things, like very traditional identity,

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like give them a spin and a
dusty one so they kind of take it

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back. That I quite like to
do the same thing, to pry,

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to chat with friends, not to
try to mess with me for a while

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and, as Gaby says, because
sometimes also the job of convincing the client

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that this is what will work for
him, because many times people like that

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are very square and they are very
much like this. You want, you

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want, yes, yes, of
course you always try to offer the best

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service so it works much better.
Not then, I think the road is

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going a little bit. I already
stick more to the planes a bit also

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to the late nights and gabyes tend
to stick the theme is like modbox and

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that a color lec colors in mundiario. Well, yes, we' re

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going to complement each other. And
so, because we also get into the

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issue of construction and because we both
don' t and we like to share

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with people as much. I believe
that one of the things that has also

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been lost in Mexico is that of
the Community. Yes, for example,

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Alejandro told me no, because it
is that my sectors greet each other here

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good morning, in good afternoon.
I say, yes, that is,

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it is really our job to follow
or strengthen it. No. So I

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think that community building, meeting the
people in your neighborhood is super enriching.

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Then that' s the truth.
I' m very happy to do it,

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because in the end they would also
say your sweep back. No.

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But it' s literally together,
when we go on the street around Gaby,

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you tell him if you don'
t know him, say hello and

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so you won' t do anything
to them anymore, because you' re

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going to be left with the doubt
that if you know him or you don

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' t know him. Yeah,
of course he' s a stranger.

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I' m the milk. Then
he is super father, because there too

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we start to know things that,
perhaps, other people know how to do

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not, for example, at the
altar, for example, the well,

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the sweeper the one who went through
the garbage in the house told us that

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00:33:27.680 --> 00:33:30.119
he loves to make electricity. Not
then I told him, but what this

416
00:33:30.240 --> 00:33:34.920
is doing here, I don'
t say hey come on and he made

417
00:33:34.920 --> 00:33:37.279
us the electricity installation. Oh,
what a beauty of the altar. What

418
00:33:37.359 --> 00:33:37.880
a beauty, then, that'
s what I' m saying. I

419
00:33:37.880 --> 00:33:45.759
mean, just knowing people a little
bit more we can ask them not to

420
00:33:45.799 --> 00:33:51.000
dare as to ask well you are
born, like that part of the workshop,

421
00:33:51.720 --> 00:33:52.119
which is the one that is the
one that is the most avant-

422
00:33:52.119 --> 00:33:54.039
garde. I am not more painful, but I am, for example,

423
00:33:54.319 --> 00:33:59.799
that you met Don Angel, who
helped us to rescue Canoa, because they

424
00:34:00.200 --> 00:34:05.559
were abandoned in the canals and with
them, because we made a family member

425
00:34:05.559 --> 00:34:08.519
for the altar. No, well, yes, or community, that'

426
00:34:08.519 --> 00:34:12.239
s nice. That' s very
smart, very rich. Yes, of

427
00:34:12.800 --> 00:34:15.920
course, and this is part of
what I also identify at the workshop.

428
00:34:15.960 --> 00:34:22.360
No, we try as always to
include people who do something within the Community

429
00:34:22.440 --> 00:34:27.480
or who can help more and who
we can give them back with our professional

430
00:34:27.639 --> 00:34:32.840
knowledge. Or it' s very
nice. That' s good to congratulate

431
00:34:34.079 --> 00:34:38.119
you on winning, winning it is
nana. I make community too. That

432
00:34:38.159 --> 00:34:43.639
' s super parents, being itinerant. Yeah, the truth is, we

433
00:34:43.719 --> 00:34:47.119
' re not like back in the
day, where you were all closed down,

434
00:34:47.280 --> 00:34:50.119
you were doing business and you were
shutting down, and nothing else was

435
00:34:50.119 --> 00:34:53.679
inside. But, Ahorita, I
think in this generation of us, I

436
00:34:53.679 --> 00:34:58.840
hurt the Asian one. It'
s ayes the armadilla meters. Right now,

437
00:35:00.280 --> 00:35:04.880
this generation is more open to collaboration
and community. Then that makes me

438
00:35:05.280 --> 00:35:09.039
so excited. Because it' s
no longer working from the inside to the

439
00:35:09.480 --> 00:35:13.840
inside, but it' s inside
out and the other way around. Then

440
00:35:13.920 --> 00:35:16.519
the truth is that I really like
that, because it makes us more moved

441
00:35:16.519 --> 00:35:20.760
and apart from seeing. I'
m good at this, but you have

442
00:35:20.800 --> 00:35:22.400
that skill, too. We'
d better get together and we' re

443
00:35:22.400 --> 00:35:25.280
a projector. So I think that' s happening a lot in our,

444
00:35:27.039 --> 00:35:30.840
in our, our, our day- to- day, our generation,

445
00:35:31.400 --> 00:35:34.920
and I hope that they will continue
generation after generation. Whether you stay because,

446
00:35:35.480 --> 00:35:37.760
I mean, it' s a
win- win for everyone, that

447
00:35:37.840 --> 00:35:40.559
is, we all win, we
pool skills and we do something extraordinary.

448
00:35:40.719 --> 00:35:45.440
That adds up to a lot of
things. So I think you' re

449
00:35:45.480 --> 00:35:49.760
doing very well and I just want
you to tell me to jump now,

450
00:35:50.039 --> 00:35:52.480
because I didn' t mention it. They mention it, and I already

451
00:35:52.639 --> 00:35:57.400
want me to mention it now.
So, tell me how this idea of

452
00:35:57.480 --> 00:36:00.039
making the altar was born, how
this project came about, because I know

453
00:36:00.119 --> 00:36:02.559
you did it with one size to
one that was already with us. Yes,

454
00:36:02.800 --> 00:36:06.840
and with the anti- hero I
sent him a kiss and a soft

455
00:36:06.920 --> 00:36:09.079
and dear. Alexander already studied with
us, too, because I was missing

456
00:36:09.079 --> 00:36:13.280
more from you. Yes, alas, I was given a divinima apostle.

457
00:36:13.760 --> 00:36:17.239
Thank you very much. Me,
the postols I use for Holywood apart are

458
00:36:17.320 --> 00:36:21.599
then I really like it. Ay
mucho so divine. Thank you very much.

459
00:36:21.679 --> 00:36:24.159
It' s divine, the altar
was like that. Tell me how

460
00:36:24.920 --> 00:36:28.960
this project came when you said,
because we' re going to collaborate with

461
00:36:29.119 --> 00:36:34.760
them two, these two teams and
make an incredible triad. Tell me about

462
00:36:34.760 --> 00:36:40.440
it. Yeah, well, that' s where the project is. Well,

463
00:36:40.559 --> 00:36:45.760
I' m gonna tell you like
a little ropima story aha fast.

464
00:36:45.760 --> 00:36:49.920
Laugh yes, because it' s
a little bit long, the chido gossip.

465
00:36:50.039 --> 00:36:53.760
This one is good, because here, that is, the altar was

466
00:36:53.880 --> 00:37:00.599
for the most important image of religious
in Chiminico, ok where, because my

467
00:37:01.559 --> 00:37:06.039
grandmother had been waiting thirty- nine
years to have him only for a year.

468
00:37:06.239 --> 00:37:07.639
Not that this, for it was
the year two thousand twenty- four.

469
00:37:08.480 --> 00:37:14.920
Then this one, then there the
one in charge of making the altar

470
00:37:15.079 --> 00:37:16.519
was Beto, who was my uncle. But he' s not here,

471
00:37:17.039 --> 00:37:21.480
he' s in Chile, and
that' s where we send him to

472
00:37:21.480 --> 00:37:24.719
us. You shouldn' t say
good, because I have an architect and

473
00:37:24.880 --> 00:37:32.039
a designer here. Let' s
see, tetra- coming, you know,

474
00:37:32.400 --> 00:37:36.519
you' re a lawyer, you
end up with this bad boat almost

475
00:37:36.519 --> 00:37:37.559
doesn' t make it, but
it runs high. That' s what

476
00:37:37.239 --> 00:37:39.119
I said about the pc U.
It' s not right. No,

477
00:37:40.119 --> 00:37:44.559
and this one, for he had
told us as it was a year ago.

478
00:37:44.719 --> 00:37:52.320
But you know we like pressure.
No And this one, and we

479
00:37:52.440 --> 00:37:58.440
already talked about it one day that
we were also there, this is the

480
00:37:58.440 --> 00:38:02.920
mellow one. Not there this one
we met Carlos, they detailed to one

481
00:38:04.400 --> 00:38:07.000
such a greeting, a greeting.
This one, and we were also told,

482
00:38:07.239 --> 00:38:08.559
hears why I' m not invited. No, I mean, as

483
00:38:08.679 --> 00:38:13.559
I hear we were talking very curious
Chinese, because we also, I mean,

484
00:38:14.079 --> 00:38:17.639
came to melloose. Okay, well, because you, for then,

485
00:38:19.000 --> 00:38:22.880
among my things, I' m
the one that if something nice goes,

486
00:38:22.519 --> 00:38:25.960
even if it' s not a
restaurant or business place, I' m

487
00:38:25.960 --> 00:38:30.679
going to see it. So I
said ah this is in San Luis clash

488
00:38:31.599 --> 00:38:36.239
chinitos we have to do remove go
and there we know the Charlie And from

489
00:38:36.239 --> 00:38:38.000
there, Chanlie says, They didn' t invite me. I invited myself

490
00:38:38.119 --> 00:38:42.000
alone is not going to Charlie,
yes, yes, but I want him

491
00:38:42.039 --> 00:38:44.760
bur and this one and we said
well, we already talked to my grandma.

492
00:38:44.840 --> 00:38:50.280
That' s it They wanted to
go You give us a chance.

493
00:38:52.360 --> 00:38:57.719
Now the idea if we already have
as a main idea, which was nothing

494
00:39:00.719 --> 00:39:04.239
we thought, which was very simple, we never thought of building anything or

495
00:39:04.320 --> 00:39:15.119
destroying part of the house. And
this one and so, we started talking

496
00:39:15.440 --> 00:39:20.199
between Charlie, Gaby and me one
day at his house and then he joined

497
00:39:20.239 --> 00:39:25.199
Alejandro, who came by the Holy
Spirit was already in the house. It

498
00:39:25.280 --> 00:39:32.760
came to me and also a greeting
for the land now Peru. But the

499
00:39:32.880 --> 00:39:38.719
Arkin or Markimen Prize no longer because
it is famous, you were no longer

500
00:39:39.320 --> 00:39:45.559
rich, famous and Latin. Then
we start doing things and talking good,

501
00:39:45.000 --> 00:39:50.400
why don' t we sponsor it, why don' t we look for

502
00:39:50.880 --> 00:39:53.920
a sponsorship that can help us reach
out. We' ve already consued something

503
00:39:53.920 --> 00:39:58.440
bigger. Then I said, well. I like to get over it too

504
00:39:58.719 --> 00:40:04.400
and I said let' s get
it over with and Gaby told him I

505
00:40:04.679 --> 00:40:05.800
don' t know how we'
re going to do this and I'

506
00:40:05.800 --> 00:40:07.559
m going to teach time. I
did, I got angry and told him

507
00:40:07.599 --> 00:40:09.079
you know what. If you'
re not going to help me, if

508
00:40:09.159 --> 00:40:15.639
you' re not going to add
up, don' t tell me anything

509
00:40:15.639 --> 00:40:16.719
and I need people who want to
add up. The more. Let'

510
00:40:17.239 --> 00:40:23.519
s join in with this, so
we managed not to make amic to us

511
00:40:23.519 --> 00:40:30.880
sixteen thousand partitions or also by the
UNAM or the material, the teak or

512
00:40:30.000 --> 00:40:39.480
the architect. Maria Guadalupe made us
a contact with anokal Ok, yes Querétaro

513
00:40:39.559 --> 00:40:45.320
and we commented on the project and
we were told it goes. We give

514
00:40:45.360 --> 00:40:53.440
them the stucco of the interior and
then they give us the stucco, they

515
00:40:53.599 --> 00:40:55.519
give us the partitions and nothing more. We have to put the labor and

516
00:40:57.320 --> 00:41:00.960
the hand of prayer, for we
put it among the whole family. My

517
00:41:01.079 --> 00:41:07.199
mom also helped me a lot and
this one and it also sent out the

518
00:41:07.440 --> 00:41:09.440
work of us and it erases everything, because besides, yes, I mean,

519
00:41:09.599 --> 00:41:14.480
and that was the intention of the
project that people would help us,

520
00:41:15.159 --> 00:41:17.880
because when people participate, it'
s done, that' s how I

521
00:41:19.000 --> 00:41:22.079
' m going to say, I
put the partition on and I say that

522
00:41:22.079 --> 00:41:23.639
' s my little partition, I
mean, I made it clear, yeah,

523
00:41:23.639 --> 00:41:25.079
yeah, so that would strengthen quite
a lot. So also this idea

524
00:41:25.239 --> 00:41:30.000
was a little forgiveness, this was
a parenthesis. This is just to add

525
00:41:30.039 --> 00:41:35.199
to the Community, as by giving
workshop for example, how to apply stucco.

526
00:41:35.800 --> 00:41:38.719
Of course, it didn' t
work for us that much. No,

527
00:41:39.039 --> 00:41:43.679
please, it' s a call
to apply stucco. And they did,

528
00:41:44.239 --> 00:41:47.679
but it didn' t reach the. He finally became a super father

529
00:41:47.760 --> 00:41:52.840
because Gaby' s mom came in, Gaby came in, another neighbor came

530
00:41:52.840 --> 00:41:55.440
in, that is, they were
like four people. We don' t

531
00:41:55.519 --> 00:41:59.639
know how to apply it, but
we did what we wanted and this I

532
00:41:59.719 --> 00:42:00.719
don' t know what it is
doing, but it' s not all

533
00:42:00.719 --> 00:42:06.280
happened to us. We missed quite
a stucco. Plus, we wasted a

534
00:42:06.280 --> 00:42:13.400
lot worse. But it was left
then that was enough. It nourished us

535
00:42:13.519 --> 00:42:17.000
a lot and united us as a
family to achieve it. Not then too,

536
00:42:17.840 --> 00:42:22.039
Charlie, who suddenly wouldn' t
give us the partitions when they gave

537
00:42:22.079 --> 00:42:29.719
them to us and Charle had some
partitions in store. Then you will plant

538
00:42:29.760 --> 00:42:31.960
my house and we will deal with
it and then, who will carry us,

539
00:42:32.280 --> 00:42:35.559
then among all of us. No. Then there you have us loading

540
00:42:35.639 --> 00:42:40.039
partitions in a van that his wife
lent us that everything moved like a truck.

541
00:42:40.480 --> 00:42:45.920
But we arrived, we made several
trips, we already had material to

542
00:42:45.920 --> 00:42:50.960
start. Then we started the inside
and then we got the outside one and

543
00:42:51.079 --> 00:42:54.360
we didn' t even know how
we were going to tackle so many partitions

544
00:42:54.960 --> 00:42:59.320
and they didn' t come this
way out of nowhere. Two trips,

545
00:43:00.719 --> 00:43:04.440
twelve pales, partition not in twenty, as you see the tortillas. Give

546
00:43:04.519 --> 00:43:10.719
him two partitions we' re gonna
pay whore. There were partitions in front,

547
00:43:12.079 --> 00:43:15.679
there were partitions back, there was
still almost in the rooms the turn

548
00:43:15.760 --> 00:43:23.440
up us because everything was naran me
guys. But in the end, he

549
00:43:23.519 --> 00:43:29.599
did. And the truth is that
also the teachers who helped us, even

550
00:43:29.760 --> 00:43:34.800
they donated us a day' s
work. That' s beautiful. Then

551
00:43:34.960 --> 00:43:37.400
you were father. That' s
right, it' s worth a lot

552
00:43:37.400 --> 00:43:40.000
of money. Well, it'
s in a lot of value. The

553
00:43:40.559 --> 00:43:45.599
day we proposed to them, we
went to the table and they know what

554
00:43:45.599 --> 00:43:51.119
this is about. We wanted to
ask them if you could do it,

555
00:43:51.400 --> 00:43:52.320
too, and they said yes.
Of course I do. I mean,

556
00:43:52.119 --> 00:43:59.039
the truth is that the kid stops
at chimico moves mountains in series. Yeah,

557
00:44:00.000 --> 00:44:05.639
so people really appreciate it and offer
you a lot of things. So

558
00:44:05.960 --> 00:44:10.360
he passed them with the door of
the High, not the door, for

559
00:44:12.360 --> 00:44:20.199
he did think we went with Don
Angel. He introduced us to the few

560
00:44:20.639 --> 00:44:25.199
lords who continued to work the sawmills
of the trajineras. Ah, you don

561
00:44:25.280 --> 00:44:30.000
' t fix it. He did
introduce who, Right now, you don

562
00:44:30.079 --> 00:44:35.000
' t remember his name Theodore,
I think it' s called good Sérchi,

563
00:44:36.360 --> 00:44:38.280
is that he introduced us and said
what they need so much. He

564
00:44:38.360 --> 00:44:44.239
hit them. Then he gave us
a piece of another engineer to make the

565
00:44:44.320 --> 00:44:49.159
altar door. Wow. So wow
to me, that really excites me.

566
00:44:49.639 --> 00:44:52.400
It happened to me, Right now, because it' s just that I

567
00:44:52.519 --> 00:44:58.639
love doing things today that I'
m always making things up and then I

568
00:44:58.639 --> 00:45:01.519
said good. It is super,
super father, that we can rescue the

569
00:45:01.559 --> 00:45:07.400
trajineras that are in the abandoned channels, literal and abandoned, that there are

570
00:45:07.400 --> 00:45:12.119
thousands that no one of the peels
and know that type of people that are

571
00:45:12.199 --> 00:45:15.119
still engaged in these handicrafts. Sure, of course, they don' t

572
00:45:15.239 --> 00:45:25.920
give you that easy I don'
t know. It wasn' t there

573
00:45:27.960 --> 00:45:30.320
to move them because I imagine it
wasn' t, but it took a

574
00:45:30.320 --> 00:45:36.760
lot of things. We met Don
Angel A of the sawmills, all the

575
00:45:37.360 --> 00:45:42.760
garbage that put the electricity wow I
father to other teachers, the teachers of

576
00:45:42.800 --> 00:45:47.159
Nanocal came Peter and Pedro JR.
That even a greeting for them is Pedro

577
00:45:47.280 --> 00:45:57.599
Pedro, Pedro Jimena Pajico. They
had camels with the super good people who

578
00:45:57.679 --> 00:46:01.960
came near and came to know the
altar and were amazed when they saw it.

579
00:46:02.679 --> 00:46:08.360
What we managed to do through moving
is that we did not and you

580
00:46:08.480 --> 00:46:12.119
also know what. That' s
the most important thing. I think here

581
00:46:12.239 --> 00:46:15.880
the project is from tradition, that
is, how a tradition became the actor.

582
00:46:19.000 --> 00:46:21.639
Yes, I mean, how important
is that tradition that everyone said,

583
00:46:22.079 --> 00:46:24.920
because we' re going to get
into what it is for these. Yes,

584
00:46:24.920 --> 00:46:30.400
and I also believed and also the
other was that I want to show

585
00:46:30.440 --> 00:46:38.639
a little bit to the Community,
as with a little creativity and with very

586
00:46:38.800 --> 00:46:45.519
basic materials we can create a space, because beautiful, dignified, uncomfortable for

587
00:46:45.519 --> 00:46:51.079
the use of design. Exactly then
people asked me, my teacher told me

588
00:46:51.199 --> 00:46:53.960
and how she' s going to
accept it. Those people aren' t

589
00:46:53.960 --> 00:46:59.000
going to make them a chok,
so because they' re used to the

590
00:46:59.000 --> 00:47:06.000
curtains that I hate, which is
more to adorn the Christmas lights that never

591
00:47:06.000 --> 00:47:12.840
take them off, no and it' s already hul Then, yes,

592
00:47:13.679 --> 00:47:16.440
it was a pretty strong blow,
but because also accepted, people accepted it

593
00:47:16.440 --> 00:47:22.079
well. I believe that the fact
of also the materials speak, that is

594
00:47:22.079 --> 00:47:28.400
to say, the choice of materials, which is the red brick, which

595
00:47:28.519 --> 00:47:34.159
is very typical of us, is
not as from because they put me to

596
00:47:34.280 --> 00:47:36.480
board rock and right now. Looks
like I don' t know the basilica.

597
00:47:36.599 --> 00:47:38.719
No, then it' s not
like such a drastic cultural shock.

598
00:47:39.159 --> 00:47:44.079
I think the materials also helped to
say, because this is very familiar to

599
00:47:44.119 --> 00:47:46.760
us. We use it in our
homes. That' s very good.

600
00:47:47.280 --> 00:47:54.519
Yes, other friends who were going
told Chalilla, a partial charlilla such because

601
00:47:54.920 --> 00:48:02.199
chalí was moving the subject of the
partitions and Meloso you know him a mellow

602
00:48:02.360 --> 00:48:06.639
his restaurant, but it is not
made of partition that is okay, I

603
00:48:06.760 --> 00:48:08.800
have not met him, is that
I have a tour pending with them.

604
00:48:08.880 --> 00:48:13.960
Then soon we organize it and we' ll see everything stays close to launching.

605
00:48:14.480 --> 00:48:19.639
And Meloso brought the idea of the
partition and had the contact. So,

606
00:48:19.840 --> 00:48:24.400
through what we managed to achieve and
then they already said what they were

607
00:48:24.480 --> 00:48:28.800
going to put tabica on everything and
they would tell us and what they would

608
00:48:28.880 --> 00:48:30.440
paint it or what they would do. No yes, oh, it'

609
00:48:30.960 --> 00:48:37.320
s not to show people that we
don' t need to paint it that

610
00:48:37.400 --> 00:48:39.039
shines and that I know it covers
it. Yes, exactly. No yes,

611
00:48:39.440 --> 00:48:45.159
even the gate of the house that
we had a friend that we put

612
00:48:45.199 --> 00:48:51.039
to dispainting. Then people would come
by and say they don' t have

613
00:48:51.039 --> 00:48:53.920
to paint. Let' s see
the food. But happy is that the

614
00:48:53.960 --> 00:49:00.000
truth is that the stewardships that are
made are used as pinning houses, that

615
00:49:00.239 --> 00:49:02.440
is, they will remodel them and
paint them to make one or even without

616
00:49:02.559 --> 00:49:08.480
new houses. Camera, no,
then these you don' t have to

617
00:49:08.480 --> 00:49:12.679
paint a lot, no or since
they saw it dispainted, they start yelling

618
00:49:12.760 --> 00:49:16.039
at us hey, no, it' s no time to paint or it

619
00:49:16.159 --> 00:49:22.280
' s not going to if they' re giving at the end it was

620
00:49:22.400 --> 00:49:23.559
the idea, i e, drawing
it and giving it is that it'

621
00:49:23.559 --> 00:49:27.639
s rusty and right now, it
looks super pretty. And the truth is

622
00:49:27.639 --> 00:49:35.079
that the project has given us quite
a lot of joy and has filled us

623
00:49:35.199 --> 00:49:39.280
because people are happy, of course
not, people are happy. The main

624
00:49:39.360 --> 00:49:45.880
actor of this altorro is happy that
he is the pas boy and that he

625
00:49:46.159 --> 00:49:49.960
goes out there. Wow, well, it' s amazing. The truth

626
00:49:49.960 --> 00:49:52.320
is that I have seen the photos
that have been published by you as well

627
00:49:52.400 --> 00:49:58.400
as by a Hadana and our dear
Alexander. Ah well this pardon also paulin

628
00:49:58.719 --> 00:50:04.360
aha Pabelín give us the photos.
Ah look at that link. Yeah,

629
00:50:04.480 --> 00:50:10.840
super grateful to him. Also greetings
to my Papelín has helped us also this

630
00:50:13.199 --> 00:50:17.119
Sykes shares other photos. How good, no, and because the truth is

631
00:50:17.119 --> 00:50:22.119
that this project is not only a
design project, but also a social project,

632
00:50:22.360 --> 00:50:30.519
totally social. The truth is that
we have even more with that project.

633
00:50:30.920 --> 00:50:32.159
I mean, that project didn'
t stay there. Oh, that

634
00:50:32.159 --> 00:50:37.719
' s good, because it'
s a temporary thing, that is,

635
00:50:37.880 --> 00:50:40.280
it' s a year that'
s going to pass the stewardship and then

636
00:50:40.360 --> 00:50:44.400
the child stops being there a ok
tempora. Yeah, and by the way,

637
00:50:44.800 --> 00:50:47.239
Güey, okay. So what we
did was in the living room and

638
00:50:47.320 --> 00:50:52.840
dining room of Grandpa Ok' s
house. So now you have to kick

639
00:50:52.880 --> 00:50:55.599
and now you have to think about
what' s going to happen after the

640
00:50:55.599 --> 00:51:01.400
afternoon. Then it' s the
next project. Then it is interesting what

641
00:51:01.880 --> 00:51:06.599
the year is when, because if
I am not going to arrive so much

642
00:51:06.599 --> 00:51:07.719
the year, it is the February
two of the twenty- five thousand.

643
00:51:07.760 --> 00:51:12.719
Ah well, okay, you still
have time. Well, visit, don

644
00:51:12.760 --> 00:51:15.280
' t take it away from me
yet, no, no, no,

645
00:51:15.599 --> 00:51:17.159
that' s good, no,
I thought it was really past, it

646
00:51:17.159 --> 00:51:21.760
' s temporary. So, yeah, that' s a big move,

647
00:51:22.760 --> 00:51:24.920
that' s how I said now
that we' re making a big challenge,

648
00:51:25.280 --> 00:51:29.480
I said a big Güey squirt,
because we already put all his heart

649
00:51:29.480 --> 00:51:32.440
like this and whether it' s
later. It is a great challenge What

650
00:51:32.599 --> 00:51:37.039
a father, because I have seen
the photos that you and I share the

651
00:51:37.079 --> 00:51:39.559
truth that I said and well,
with ta comes one by one and I

652
00:51:39.599 --> 00:51:45.280
get along very well and I said
no manchens was amazing. And I,

653
00:51:45.480 --> 00:51:47.840
for the truth is that I'
m always in love with the red brick,

654
00:51:49.119 --> 00:51:53.239
like I always put it in some
way, some project and when I

655
00:51:53.360 --> 00:51:57.800
saw everything upholstered, I said God
no. I was not very surprised and

656
00:51:57.880 --> 00:52:02.440
I congratulate them very much to do
this community architecture, because it is community

657
00:52:04.039 --> 00:52:07.840
architecture And wow, it is splendid, it is plenda and desplendida. And

658
00:52:07.960 --> 00:52:15.880
well they made this great enclosure that
are out there and now what else has

659
00:52:15.920 --> 00:52:17.760
popular workshop saying what else it will
do, what is more up to a

660
00:52:22.119 --> 00:52:24.440
hundred tell me, so, now, and we have been a little slow.

661
00:52:24.480 --> 00:52:28.960
Yeah, okay, like the altar, if it kind of moved us,

662
00:52:29.119 --> 00:52:32.400
because it was a project, well, big, that' s the

663
00:52:32.519 --> 00:52:38.760
biggest thing we have. But design
work has arrived, as well as remodeling

664
00:52:38.840 --> 00:52:45.679
work. There we have like two
at the door what little jobs more like

665
00:52:45.840 --> 00:52:52.000
we' re planning, just like
through the altar, like we' re

666
00:52:52.599 --> 00:52:59.639
left with enough ideas. Okay,
so with Charlie, with Alejandro, we

667
00:52:59.639 --> 00:53:07.079
also participated in unpublished us and there
we met José lo maderita. Yeah,

668
00:53:07.400 --> 00:53:10.320
and we got an idea, too. There with doing some of the trajineras.

669
00:53:12.440 --> 00:53:20.199
Oh, Father Jorcelo and Charle and
Alejandro to sponsor other brilliant projects.

670
00:53:20.239 --> 00:53:27.360
So, more than doing the play. We' re creating, that is,

671
00:53:27.840 --> 00:53:30.440
we' re in the creative process. From seeing what we can entertain

672
00:53:30.639 --> 00:53:37.000
ourselves in, because I really have
my office work ok because, unfortunately,

673
00:53:37.079 --> 00:53:44.079
architecture does not feed us all very
well. Then we have our works of

674
00:53:44.079 --> 00:53:51.480
Godin, of office valid and these
small projects, which are the ones that

675
00:53:51.880 --> 00:53:54.599
already fill our soul, are created
little by little, There is not even

676
00:53:54.800 --> 00:53:59.280
a very bad thing, that is, it is very valid. That'

677
00:53:59.320 --> 00:54:00.119
s what' s important is that
they don' t leave theirs. It

678
00:54:00.360 --> 00:54:04.840
' s the most important thing not
to leave yours because at some point I

679
00:54:04.880 --> 00:54:07.480
' m sure they' re going
to quit their Godine jobs and they'

680
00:54:07.480 --> 00:54:09.719
re going to be fully dedicated.
That' s because there' s so

681
00:54:09.840 --> 00:54:14.159
much going on and if you'
re going to pass them from being manifested,

682
00:54:14.360 --> 00:54:15.800
then the truth is that I congratulate
them very much. Good that they

683
00:54:15.880 --> 00:54:17.880
are, they are not paused,
they are in that creative process that everyone

684
00:54:19.039 --> 00:54:22.400
has. It' s very good
And that' s also movement, that

685
00:54:22.840 --> 00:54:25.400
' s really lame And it'
s good that you keep moving and collaborating

686
00:54:25.400 --> 00:54:28.440
with others more. I mean,
that' s being a person like you,

687
00:54:28.639 --> 00:54:34.239
that' s if you saw us
come here with Charlie, with this

688
00:54:35.960 --> 00:54:37.800
one, now that he opened his
studio there in San Pedro Toppan as well.

689
00:54:38.119 --> 00:54:44.639
Yes, I also know other architects
from Xchimilco ok and from a thousand

690
00:54:44.719 --> 00:54:52.039
faults. Oh, so we'
re good then, so I mean to

691
00:54:52.159 --> 00:54:59.679
see how it would be super father
if we did something in the peripheral and

692
00:54:59.800 --> 00:55:04.039
southern form of the city, because
there' s talent, I mean,

693
00:55:05.519 --> 00:55:06.119
there' s talent and there'
s things that can come up quite interesting.

694
00:55:06.199 --> 00:55:08.480
So don' t tell me that
because things like that spring up to

695
00:55:08.480 --> 00:55:14.559
me and I' ve already started
to sprout things and pick them up with

696
00:55:14.639 --> 00:55:20.679
Alejandro, because he has also shared
with us a lot of his trips to

697
00:55:20.800 --> 00:55:25.519
Guadalajara and has met quite a lot
of architects through his way of being and

698
00:55:25.599 --> 00:55:29.280
going into people and that I say
is super going, very valid totally.

699
00:55:30.039 --> 00:55:34.960
Through that we have met quite a
few people, architects, designers, painters,

700
00:55:35.719 --> 00:55:38.760
sculptors, erasists. Well, then
joke is like seeing what we can

701
00:55:38.840 --> 00:55:43.360
do there, what you can do
to us, how moving. Right now,

702
00:55:43.840 --> 00:55:46.719
we talk, yes, it seems
like we' re doing things because

703
00:55:46.760 --> 00:55:51.880
I don' t deserve those things
and look at you starting to trouble me

704
00:55:51.920 --> 00:55:57.480
rich dir Ahorita, we talk,
but I' m really glad you'

705
00:55:57.519 --> 00:56:00.519
re doing that community because I was
just talking to Charles a little bit and

706
00:56:00.599 --> 00:56:06.679
the one that I tell you I
have a tour pending with them and he

707
00:56:06.960 --> 00:56:08.280
told me is that we moved here
at a thousand missing, because we don

708
00:56:08.280 --> 00:56:08.280
' t like being in the countess, in Rome, more or less yours.

709
00:56:08.920 --> 00:56:14.559
And I liked the office here better
and the egoist very well. It

710
00:56:14.559 --> 00:56:17.599
is, very good that you decentralize
it because I am already a greeting to

711
00:56:19.079 --> 00:56:25.760
the Rome of Clothing. So the
truth is, I see it as very

712
00:56:25.840 --> 00:56:30.400
promising. That is already many are
migrating, for example, Atlampa who went

713
00:56:30.519 --> 00:56:35.280
to Santa María de la Rivera before
or anyone and they are already giving it

714
00:56:35.320 --> 00:56:39.400
to go to San Rafael Azcapuzalco.
Sometimes those places were not named as for

715
00:56:39.519 --> 00:56:45.480
a place for architects' office or
architects were not known. From there it

716
00:56:45.519 --> 00:56:49.760
is very sad that you have as
it is that here too in the south

717
00:56:49.840 --> 00:56:53.599
are happening and sprouting things and it
is very painful because at some point you

718
00:56:53.599 --> 00:56:57.079
look with here of my eyes.
Yeah, something' s going to happen,

719
00:56:57.199 --> 00:57:00.880
something' s going to happen and
so very soon because right now,

720
00:57:00.880 --> 00:57:05.239
then he' s really weird.
I congratulate you very much. And so,

721
00:57:05.519 --> 00:57:08.760
well, that is, what would
be for you then the star project

722
00:57:08.840 --> 00:57:12.119
that you would like to see come
to a popular workshop. They say they

723
00:57:12.280 --> 00:57:15.800
arrive this would be the jewel of
the cordana of us. Which one would

724
00:57:15.800 --> 00:57:21.599
be good. I agree that,
because not as well as that we wait

725
00:57:21.719 --> 00:57:25.400
only in specific, but rather,
I think it would be like continuing to

726
00:57:25.559 --> 00:57:35.800
generate community, not collaboration. And
yes, I mean, I think that

727
00:57:35.960 --> 00:57:40.800
' s what makes a project very
good. Yeah, I don' t

728
00:57:40.920 --> 00:57:49.599
know that your family life has always
been involved in the social issue. Just

729
00:57:49.639 --> 00:57:52.800
as we don' t say there' s good, come to another altar,

730
00:57:52.199 --> 00:57:57.960
come to me. Personally, I
would love to do as a community

731
00:57:58.000 --> 00:58:05.760
thing, that is, a community
center in Sochinito, because when I was

732
00:58:05.920 --> 00:58:09.719
at WAM we did a study that
is the Villacopapa area, and that is

733
00:58:10.159 --> 00:58:15.639
the area with more shopping centers and
fewer museums. Yeah, then there'

734
00:58:15.800 --> 00:58:20.760
s nothing. We have a source
of culture and tradition there and there is

735
00:58:21.480 --> 00:58:28.440
no space other than the pillars and
there are some that made are very parents,

736
00:58:28.840 --> 00:58:37.400
but that have this power that can
unite society and share design, culture,

737
00:58:37.559 --> 00:58:44.199
tradition. I think it would be
like this for me and also the

738
00:58:44.320 --> 00:58:50.880
issue of working with local materials.
I love the tule theme exactly, with

739
00:58:50.880 --> 00:58:53.960
that, yeah, I mean,
something out there I think I' d

740
00:58:53.960 --> 00:58:59.760
like to do right. For example, there is another super- plan project

741
00:59:00.519 --> 00:59:05.920
that also the wine space, since
we are there, that is, there

742
00:59:05.960 --> 00:59:08.960
is no museum, yes, that
was going to say how it goes and

743
00:59:09.000 --> 00:59:14.639
in your Chile, so it is
necessary and the museum in which Gabin and

744
00:59:14.760 --> 00:59:19.519
Daniela did the thesis is very abandoned, that is, they are for example,

745
00:59:19.719 --> 00:59:23.559
the Dolores at least error four years
ago you have each time you leave

746
00:59:23.679 --> 00:59:29.920
us eat museums. It is not
true and very little dissemination that they make

747
00:59:30.039 --> 00:59:36.719
it and because they are very worse. Well, that' s a pretty

748
00:59:36.800 --> 00:59:42.039
interesting topic because, yeah, they' re running out of cultural centers and

749
00:59:42.119 --> 00:59:45.039
they have a lot of culture.
Yeah, so it' s as if

750
00:59:45.119 --> 00:59:47.760
it isn' t. Every time
you open the street and start this you

751
00:59:49.440 --> 00:59:52.559
will find Spanish preis pieces. No, then. That doesn' t happen

752
00:59:52.559 --> 00:59:57.519
in Tendegua. Here we do,
then, I say yes no, that

753
00:59:57.519 --> 01:00:00.800
is how much wealth we do not
have there. Of course, she'

754
01:00:01.360 --> 01:00:05.400
s very buried and much to discover
and melt. You have to do something,

755
01:00:05.559 --> 01:00:08.880
you have to look, but I
have already protogo. That' s

756
01:00:08.920 --> 01:00:14.800
either tickle, ombres, coffee,
that' s drunk. Listen, it

757
01:00:14.840 --> 01:00:19.199
' s unfortunate that you' re
running out of cultural science. But that

758
01:00:19.280 --> 01:00:22.840
gives you a chance. That'
s a source of opportunity. It'

759
01:00:22.880 --> 01:00:25.119
s not about becoming the victim,
it' s about opportunity, and that

760
01:00:25.119 --> 01:00:28.559
' s amazing. Do it.
Do it? Do it, I support

761
01:00:28.559 --> 01:00:30.039
you and I support the deceased.
I' m serious now. Do it

762
01:00:30.199 --> 01:00:34.880
because yes already that I think one
of the most important enclosures, which is

763
01:00:35.039 --> 01:00:37.239
the sommed pain that you have until
and La is closed four years ago.

764
01:00:38.199 --> 01:00:42.719
It says a lot, they say
a lot about the cultural part over there

765
01:00:43.280 --> 01:00:45.559
it' s like chin what'
s going on. And apart from the

766
01:00:45.800 --> 01:00:49.320
fact that they want to pass it
on right now, it' s the

767
01:00:49.480 --> 01:00:52.679
news, that is, that'
s what the pieces that are in the

768
01:00:53.039 --> 01:00:55.800
Olmedo Pain Museum want to pass to
the park you plan. Then the director

769
01:00:55.840 --> 01:00:59.239
of the pains went away as it
was, was, was to see,

770
01:00:59.400 --> 01:01:01.480
to see no, this is not
going to happen. Guys, let'

771
01:01:01.559 --> 01:01:04.960
s see sometime, but that'
s not gonna happen. Yeah, well,

772
01:01:05.000 --> 01:01:08.000
I' m not. But here
it would be like the London Museum,

773
01:01:08.519 --> 01:01:13.679
the British Museum, which is stealing
things from everywhere and has no identity

774
01:01:13.840 --> 01:01:19.519
of its own. Then don'
t take it off better put a spotlight

775
01:01:19.599 --> 01:01:23.119
on it to open it again and
ready and spread more. I don'

776
01:01:23.199 --> 01:01:30.880
t think it' s the right
solution and to pass it here the chapultepec

777
01:01:30.119 --> 01:01:35.639
when they should be in fun because
if they already have a space, then

778
01:01:36.119 --> 01:01:38.760
just open it and manage it exactly, question it correctly and point. I

779
01:01:38.800 --> 01:01:42.519
mean, here we go, we
get balls. Not then, yes,

780
01:01:42.599 --> 01:01:45.599
there are many things to do and
it is good that you are with your

781
01:01:45.719 --> 01:01:50.880
finger, without removing it from the
line, because it is really worrying,

782
01:01:50.880 --> 01:01:52.400
but it is to be speeded up. It is also motivating for you.

783
01:01:52.599 --> 01:01:57.440
Yes, as well as, for
example, you start pauperizing this whole area

784
01:01:57.599 --> 01:02:04.960
as magical villages. I mean Tepoztlan, it' s already a drinking street.

785
01:02:05.599 --> 01:02:08.599
Yes and, for example, sochemical, the trajineras also yes, it

786
01:02:08.719 --> 01:02:14.920
is already seen as ugly only thing, but you do mention ochumilco. The

787
01:02:15.000 --> 01:02:17.159
first thing that comes to mind are
tragedies. But there' s so much,

788
01:02:19.320 --> 01:02:21.119
so much, so much more.
We' ve done military and if

789
01:02:21.239 --> 01:02:24.960
it' s getting less and less, and that' s why it'

790
01:02:25.079 --> 01:02:30.239
s getting more and more partying than
tradition, because it' s already getting

791
01:02:30.239 --> 01:02:34.400
lost. And that' s what
we have. I think we' re

792
01:02:34.480 --> 01:02:39.679
still our generation that we grew up
with snaria, with traditions of yes no,

793
01:02:40.159 --> 01:02:45.079
because really young people don' t
come out of the cell phone anymore.

794
01:02:45.800 --> 01:02:52.440
No, then this young Hahaha and
look. But it' s true,

795
01:02:52.440 --> 01:02:54.280
yes, it' s true.
That is, I teach, I

796
01:02:55.320 --> 01:02:59.800
realize with my students that they do
not leave their cell phone and ask them

797
01:02:59.840 --> 01:03:04.960
something that is happening in the city
or some tradition of a festival. They

798
01:03:05.199 --> 01:03:08.199
don' t know yes, because
they don' t come out, because

799
01:03:08.239 --> 01:03:09.119
they don' t exactly get to
know us, they don' t come

800
01:03:09.119 --> 01:03:13.679
out curious. Curiosity is a basic
element of an architect, of a designer,

801
01:03:14.199 --> 01:03:16.480
of a creative. It' s
curiosity is like one of the bases

802
01:03:16.519 --> 01:03:21.760
of the pyramid of that and they
don' t have it because they already

803
01:03:21.840 --> 01:03:24.159
have all disk at hand, but
they' re not taking advantage of it

804
01:03:24.159 --> 01:03:27.079
in what they should then. The
truth is that, yes, young people

805
01:03:27.280 --> 01:03:30.360
are right now, it is the
Asian woman who is hard for you.

806
01:03:31.079 --> 01:03:37.880
Unfortunately, they are intoxicating the technology
badly they are not using it in their

807
01:03:37.920 --> 01:03:44.559
favor. And it' s terrible, terrible, terrible, and I just

808
01:03:44.719 --> 01:03:45.800
think I' m a lot with
you, that I' m not gender.

809
01:03:45.840 --> 01:03:51.239
That' s the last one against
the fact that you know about traditions,

810
01:03:52.079 --> 01:03:53.239
yes, you mention something to him
and he knows yes, that'

811
01:03:53.239 --> 01:03:54.920
s the way it is. It
is therefore I of St Jude. Don

812
01:03:54.920 --> 01:04:00.760
' t, for example, ask
someone from the other generous which lities,

813
01:04:01.280 --> 01:04:06.440
some you' re never going to
see or run into then. And in

814
01:04:06.480 --> 01:04:14.440
addition to that we are also returning, notice, let us realize that the

815
01:04:14.559 --> 01:04:18.320
architecture also and the design is like
returning to the origin, that is to

816
01:04:18.400 --> 01:04:27.039
say every time we are returning to
the finishes with lime the paintings of the

817
01:04:27.840 --> 01:04:33.639
same natural, the dyeing totally,
yes, the techniques of traditional ancestras of

818
01:04:33.800 --> 01:04:39.719
construction, that is, we are
returning and it is what are selling us

819
01:04:39.760 --> 01:04:42.679
very expensive, yes, and that
here abounds and but it is becoming very

820
01:04:42.679 --> 01:04:45.840
exact. We ourselves are fondening it, but yes, exactly although there is

821
01:04:46.159 --> 01:04:49.599
something good that is happening a lot
in design and architecture is that yes,

822
01:04:49.719 --> 01:04:56.559
we are just using techniques from before, but we are also seeing how to

823
01:04:56.559 --> 01:04:59.800
get in. For example, there
was a design exhibition and all ah well,

824
01:05:00.079 --> 01:05:03.880
I' m going to put an
Italian furniture or I' m going

825
01:05:03.920 --> 01:05:05.880
to put a Danis and Ahorita furniture. It' s not like I'

826
01:05:05.960 --> 01:05:12.519
m going to do this at the
indisiinhouses anymore, and now who of the

827
01:05:12.519 --> 01:05:14.599
Mexican designers is doing something, what
furniture and stuff. I mean, we

828
01:05:14.639 --> 01:05:15.920
' re already looking inside and it' s perfect. And that' s

829
01:05:16.000 --> 01:05:18.039
very good. It' s just
that we don' t have to make

830
01:05:18.039 --> 01:05:24.440
things expensive. You don' t
have to make them ducks always hear us

831
01:05:24.519 --> 01:05:26.679
the same architects or we always have
tellers. Very well understood. I think

832
01:05:26.800 --> 01:05:30.480
there is, there is a lot
of talent, a lot of talent,

833
01:05:31.719 --> 01:05:36.559
and I think that in unpublished is
one of the perfect examples to say there

834
01:05:36.679 --> 01:05:39.559
is more than one furniture designer,
there is more than one and there come

835
01:05:39.559 --> 01:05:43.199
new ones. Then there' s
nowhere to choose. Only I go inside

836
01:05:43.199 --> 01:05:45.800
and even things, please, because
that' s how uy hurt in my

837
01:05:46.400 --> 01:05:53.239
pocket. Ah then if it is
as if to think, because, then,

838
01:05:53.840 --> 01:05:58.239
there is a lot to offer as
designers, as Mexican architects. But

839
01:05:59.239 --> 01:06:02.920
this one, you have to pay
attention in that you have to help us

840
01:06:02.960 --> 01:06:06.519
all and that the design reaches everyone, most by the, most by the,

841
01:06:08.000 --> 01:06:10.800
at least, as you say,
and in which father I hear.

842
01:06:11.159 --> 01:06:16.679
I know you have a lot of
opportunities to rerun culturally and also in your

843
01:06:17.199 --> 01:06:21.480
fields, but what are your favorite
designers and architects that you say. He

844
01:06:21.599 --> 01:06:27.880
makes me get my hands up,
he makes me flow things, who it

845
01:06:27.880 --> 01:06:35.360
is who starts, because right now, that is, because what I'

846
01:06:35.679 --> 01:06:46.840
m seeing more Kallage, I love
the landscape is also the workshop. It

847
01:06:46.960 --> 01:06:53.559
' s called plain landscape tonatiu ay. That' s chimene. Well,

848
01:06:53.559 --> 01:06:57.760
there' s the chintos, done, but I love the landscape theme.

849
01:06:58.360 --> 01:07:06.679
Well, this merging architecture with the
landscape seems surprising to me, because I

850
01:07:08.000 --> 01:07:14.599
love plants very well. And what
else, because also of the women have

851
01:07:14.800 --> 01:07:23.400
been excelling barely had. I think
Christ was more of an echo with Gabriela

852
01:07:23.480 --> 01:07:27.440
Carrillo. Ah sure, in the
echo aha Gabril, the carnalo Moris Rocho.

853
01:07:28.280 --> 01:07:32.400
They also have them, as well
as on radar that are the ones

854
01:07:32.480 --> 01:07:40.480
I like as design, how they
read the context. Of course, that

855
01:07:40.559 --> 01:07:44.280
' s a great example of how
lenin context. Gaby is one of them

856
01:07:44.719 --> 01:07:49.559
Dragona and to see the Gaby,
the Gaby here I will add a designer

857
01:07:50.039 --> 01:07:57.920
and an artist to see Cediari and
the Red is big designer and skiros,

858
01:07:58.639 --> 01:08:01.639
a great mural that we were just
there in the Workshop, i e,

859
01:08:03.159 --> 01:08:06.159
this man. So every time we
go there to Whenmaca, we try to

860
01:08:06.199 --> 01:08:10.840
visit the Workshop, also not China, it doesn' t have to see

861
01:08:10.920 --> 01:08:16.119
that space that you say wow like
not every time we go like we see

862
01:08:16.199 --> 01:08:19.319
something different and we like that.
Yes, this father, yes I love

863
01:08:19.399 --> 01:08:23.479
the Workshopa also when I go to
Cornavaca, as ay, I love I

864
01:08:23.960 --> 01:08:30.479
do yes I who has also raised
quite the panso tea an ambito manzono the

865
01:08:30.520 --> 01:08:35.239
Museum of Art. There is also
the garden color embroidered, the chocolates,

866
01:08:36.079 --> 01:08:41.920
the parish made by Felix Candela.
There' s a lot to see,

867
01:08:42.359 --> 01:08:44.680
a lot of things all of a
sudden, like when cow got to it.

868
01:08:45.039 --> 01:08:48.920
Unfortunately, a footballer came to be
Cuernavaca' s boss and did everything,

869
01:08:49.000 --> 01:08:54.760
but because look again he is re- emerging then yes, yes,

870
01:08:55.039 --> 01:08:58.479
but how good it is, he
has very good references and very much of

871
01:08:58.560 --> 01:09:00.800
his own, very of his own, certainly to the very one of his

872
01:09:01.000 --> 01:09:03.800
own hear And I mean, this
talk is amazing and I feel it'

873
01:09:03.840 --> 01:09:06.199
s not going to be the first
and last time they' re going to

874
01:09:06.199 --> 01:09:10.760
be that. But it' s
manifestation. Manifestation is about to keep telling

875
01:09:10.840 --> 01:09:14.359
me, that it is still a
popular design workshop, that they are doing,

876
01:09:14.560 --> 01:09:17.279
that another idea came to mind who
else they are collaborating with, because

877
01:09:17.359 --> 01:09:21.520
look they are on the right track. But then, but on this occasion

878
01:09:21.600 --> 01:09:28.239
I would like to finish this great
talk by asking you what you would say

879
01:09:28.760 --> 01:09:32.520
to the new generations of architects and
designers who, like you, are launching

880
01:09:32.560 --> 01:09:36.199
to undertake or who are already starting
or are thinking about it. What they

881
01:09:36.239 --> 01:09:42.399
would say to them, because do
not hesitate if they have an idea or

882
01:09:42.520 --> 01:09:46.960
if they want to undertake, because
they do not hesitate to do so,

883
01:09:48.159 --> 01:09:50.920
not that he does not already have
it insured. But there' s always

884
01:09:51.079 --> 01:09:57.319
like a pocinline. Yes, always, because they will see ups and downs,

885
01:09:59.039 --> 01:10:04.199
not stoned, decalabradas, but the
one who perseveres reaches, that is,

886
01:10:05.640 --> 01:10:11.439
if the idea is to create a
space of their own, for they

887
01:10:11.479 --> 01:10:15.000
are not averted, but that they
were not done to what we said to

888
01:10:15.199 --> 01:10:16.960
collaborate is not that they do not
see them as competition, but as collaborating.

889
01:10:18.119 --> 01:10:25.439
We' re really allies. They
would say in Chile, we are

890
01:10:25.520 --> 01:10:28.159
colleagues, we are in the field
and the joke is to help us.

891
01:10:28.840 --> 01:10:38.039
Then I would recommend that they walk
a lot, that we learn to observe

892
01:10:38.119 --> 01:10:45.000
where we stand and I think that' s what works for me. Yes,

893
01:10:45.199 --> 01:10:49.920
let them also approach artisans, teachers, because also to these communities that

894
01:10:49.960 --> 01:10:57.279
have a lot of knowledge and that
I don' t think they don'

895
01:10:57.359 --> 01:11:02.079
t, because we have gone to
value it in this one without stealing you

896
01:11:02.079 --> 01:11:05.880
clear. Yeah, please, yeah, I toon out there, I create

897
01:11:06.159 --> 01:11:10.640
for that always where the credit.
Yeah, that' s very important.

898
01:11:10.720 --> 01:11:13.880
Also because then it' s how
I look is going to be at nothing.

899
01:11:13.960 --> 01:11:18.960
You stole it. Yes, there
are no limits to me. There

900
01:11:19.079 --> 01:11:23.920
are limits, no, because thank
you very much, guys for being here

901
01:11:24.039 --> 01:11:26.920
with us for the first time,
but not the last time. Thank you

902
01:11:26.960 --> 01:11:30.000
very much. I was really looking
forward to meeting you guys It' s

903
01:11:30.000 --> 01:11:30.680
good that you' ve already given
in. Yes, that the stars lined

904
01:11:30.720 --> 01:11:33.600
up and said. Now yes,
this is the good day. Thank you

905
01:11:33.600 --> 01:11:39.159
very much, God, thank you
for inviting me. No, thank you

906
01:11:39.319 --> 01:11:43.439
very much for your time, because
it comes from afar. Yeah, they

907
01:11:43.520 --> 01:11:48.399
come a little far, the truth
from the south to the south shallows.

908
01:11:49.079 --> 01:11:55.319
I am very grateful for your time
and, well, see you next time

909
01:11:55.439 --> 01:11:59.359
not only here in Dirra, we
can also see you on an ordinary day

910
01:12:00.439 --> 01:12:03.319
to continue chatting, because it is
amazing what you are doing. And so,

911
01:12:03.359 --> 01:12:06.680
as people, I also got super, super good, really, a

912
01:12:06.760 --> 01:12:10.960
thousand thanks for opening up with us. And so, well, I say

913
01:12:11.039 --> 01:12:15.079
goodbye. We' re already on
the final straight. They' re the

914
01:12:15.079 --> 01:12:18.439
last chapters of the new season,
well, in the first season of designing

915
01:12:19.479 --> 01:12:21.640
ando don' t miss them.
Remember that we are on all music streams,

916
01:12:21.960 --> 01:12:26.479
Spotify, Apple Podcast, Google Podcast, which has already become YouTube,

917
01:12:26.600 --> 01:12:32.119
Podcast, ih Hear, Spreaker,
everything that ends in podcast. We'

918
01:12:32.680 --> 01:12:35.479
re there, and then, well, there we wait for them, there

919
01:12:35.600 --> 01:12:36.800
' s no, but they'
re worth it, don' t miss

920
01:12:36.800 --> 01:12:41.159
them. And so thank you very
much. Newly popular design workshop. Thank

921
01:12:41.239 --> 01:12:44.880
you Gaby, thank you Nas,
thank you yes and a greeting to everyone

922
01:12:44.960 --> 01:12:46.920
and come and take a little Vueltecita
Here. I work here in San Luis,

923
01:12:47.479 --> 01:12:50.079
Potosí one hundred and thirteen on the
Roma hill. Thank you so much.

924
01:12:50.319 --> 01:12:50.760
Bye Bye.