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I'm okay. I just smoked them
another till the face. Yeah, she

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wanted to stay singing to your beach. I go with Jake, don't just

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try to tell me you love me. You can't keep it. Really,

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if you really don't trust me,
you come with a real you have up

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in the front of you. Get
my meals. I'm conning for the money,

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money in the bank. Come on
with the dank, scrolling that tank,

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thrilling with the gang, you sitting
on the sideline trip and I go

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to the whole with a rock lake
peppot. Yeah, I'm okay. What

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up? And welcome to one that
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and foremost, shout to Ryan Hannah. He'll be joining the show in the

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second al out. Talk a little
bit about the Detreat, Detreat, Destoi,

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Red Wings and the injury to Dylan
Larkin. We also got tons of

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Detroit Lions free agency news not so
much. I guess you got some No,

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I need draft stuff. Really well, we'll get into all of today.

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First and foremost, we had a
freaking Chernobyl event and my town yes,

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yeah, talk about it. That
ship was insane, I say,

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around the Clinton Township area. If
you guys haven't heard already, if you're

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hear locally in Michigan, I actually
think I made a national news there was.

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I believe it's selective distributing. They
sell everything from freaking like vape tanks

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or nice genoxide tanks, uh to
whatever the hellouse. Well, I don't,

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I don't. Chris, did you
see like the final news how the

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fire started? I just know what
happened. Whippets real, he has like

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whippits and like some other shit too, TVD products then two or something CO

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two either way. For an hour
straight, it was like it was an

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hour hour straight explosion, bro,
just NonStop. I initially thought it was

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fireworks, man. Then I was
like, oh shit, like somethings going

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down. I thought it was like
a train track, just like all the

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pieces colliding or something like that.
No, dude, it was fucking exploding,

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no joke, for an hour from
your house. Yes, they're hear

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from my house, Chris, you
live right by how far? I heard

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it from my house? And what's
crazy? So I live at fifteen Harperad.

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This was at fifteen and Gross Spec, which is like four miles away.

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I heard it. People at twenty
one mile heard it. There was

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reports that people in Farmington heard it. Heard something atte crazy. I was

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playing out divers. Oh okay,
I was hearing other explosions. Yeah,

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fighting for you Hell yeah, brother, so you head sat down and yeah,

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games in the basement right, No, well it's it's on my PSI

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pops dude. Yeah, you would
have heard it if he heard it.

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No, it was fucking insane.
So I was lighting up. I actually

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we had videos. Yeah, that
was the so here. I got one

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break one on three fifteen miles away
from that though, So I mean there's

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people from oh, there's people at
twenty one mile twenty three. So this

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is like after the fact that this
is trying to put out, but like

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this ship kept exploding. Yeah.
My one of my shot in my guy

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Core, he was right over there
and like right when it first start,

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he hopped over and drove he and
his daughter and the guy out the car

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to kind of like watch it,
and then he said, fucking like her

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paintings started like fucking flying, Yeah, and like hitting the ground. It

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was like raining. That's how one
personally got killed. Yeah, it was

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nineteen year old like die watching outside
seven eleven. So you say, you

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hop back in the car went back
to his house after that. But yeah,

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it was fucking it was crazy.
It was hours straight of this.

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I was tripping balls. And I
really don't because I don't have cable.

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I only watched like I watched myself
on blue leg or internet whatnot, So

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like I don't have the news like
to know what was going on. This

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is where you get your entertainment.
I don't got cable, So I didn't

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say it on my porch. Oh
I did. But I'm just saying they

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have like a new source of like
what the fuck was going on here?

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What I'm saying, like, and
then my whole family, my neighbors I'm

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telling about like you should probably go
inside. I don't know, we should

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be reading this shit in They didn't
have like a final They were like,

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ah, don't worry about Yeah,
I don't know, bro, No,

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that's to me. That's to me
where I got scared. It is like

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the wall in term facts. I
have a friend who literally lives right at

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fifteen gross speck, Like he was
feet from what happened, and his brother

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was on His little brother was on
the way home, and the like find

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out like the iPhone Find your Friends
or whatever was like showing that he was

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in the McDonald's parking lot, which
was like, which was like right by

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it. So he started freaking out
and calling him and he couldn't answer because

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he could not hear it with the
phone connected to the speaker in his car.

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He could not hear it over the
explosion. Man, it was that

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was that was wild. That's something
I've never experienced in my life. Like

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me and my dad were sitting there
watching the news and we're just like how

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do we keep hearing explosions? Like
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once she think everything exploded within the
first like two minutes, how are we

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hearing explosions and those paying things all
those like I know, but when it

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was just like light them all off, like that's what was happening. That's

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why I was like, yeah,
but when you have the other video,

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we said, yeah, played that
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more context, like because this was
after the fact. I did have YouTube

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TV Stevo football seasons over Kansas.
So here's save that money boy. Yeah

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yeah, yeah, that's having exploding. Yeah, that's yeah. Play And

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I'm sorry, I don't have if
I can't think explain, it's better.

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I just I don't really have words
for it. It was. It was.

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It was insane. We were joking
around my own buddycause he has like

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the guy that was over there,
he has a really conservative buddy calling.

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He's like, it's happening, damn. Yeah, yeah, that's pretty crazy.

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It was. It was wild.
But I'm glad that everyone outside of

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the firefighter and I guess the nineteen
year old two recipes that is fortunate.

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And there was the road rage incident
too. Yeah, some got shot at

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fifteen Kelly went yesterday literally right before
that happened. During the bombing, I

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think it was bombing. I think
it was because of the because of the

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traffic, like somebody was stopped and
so the person got really aggravated that they

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were stopped. And that's what the
reports are is that basically it was over

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like all the blockage that was happening
because of the fire that like somebody was

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trying to leave and like the art
person was kind of just like panicking and

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staying still, and road rates took
over and they shot him. Shooting somebody

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over traffic is wild. Yeah,
that's insane. I had old guy plugg

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on you before. Really, yeah, I just there's been two times.

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Yeah, old way older. The
one time it happened, I called the

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guy's bluff because I just I could
tell a guy's pussy. I was like,

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fucking do it, which is like, don't mark who fucking fight all

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the time and girl fighting. He
was like, Bro, you're fucking crazy.

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Yeah, that guy fucking hopped out
the window. I was like,

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do it, pussy Jesus all right. The second one, I'm pretty sure

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that old guy was gonna use it. And as I was rolled out my

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window, let him spit on the
window and say whatever the other that's say.

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I had something on me too,
but I was like, this is

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not like I don't know what the
fuck they do in this situation. I

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had one other time too. This
guy was like following me on six ninety

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six and my girlfriend at the time, I had my ship in my glove

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box. I was like, give
me the fucking thing, and she's like

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crying, no, scared. I'm
like, bitch this guy, I don't

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know the fuck this guy's done.
Give me my fucking gun. And yeah,

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but that was crazy. That's you
had a gun pull on him.

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Yeah, I mean from a cop. Yeah. One other time too,

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pedestrian, I don't think. Yeah, two old white guys both both times

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previous times and again in traffic too. Who's a real dangerous over there?

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Uh? Yeah, man, it's
I don't know, shooting someone out over

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traffic is ridiculous. We always don't
care about your races. Do you ever

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think like one of those two races
that was like mess up? You are

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like trying to figure out what the
fuck is he? This is real tame

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No, But I guess I'm glad
that nobody else got hurt. The whole

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situation that was crazy. I put
this one briefly into it because somebody wanted

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to talk about it during the Armani
and Edward Show. It's Ryan Garcia stuff.

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You didn't keep an eye on that. No, dude's been having like

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a straight like mental breakdown. You're
really gonna fight coming up next month in

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the twentieth for twenty high against Devin
Hainey, and like Devin Haney is like,

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are you on drugs or something like
that? I don't like four twenty

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Yeah, it's not. My car
got totaled one for twenty oh oh yeah

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PTSD. Yeah, I'm gonna is
it a is it a weekday? What?

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Probably because I'm calling off. I'm
not driving to five out of seven

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chaps. No, don't do that. What are you doing? Sorry?

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But I mean that's the mask.
So what happened with Ryan Garcia? Yeah,

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he went on his Instagram. I
might have been his Twitter, his

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Instagram, but his Instagram. He
went out there and said like recipes Ryan

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Garcia, like six six six and
los a bunch of like if you were

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just like the fucking elbow drop me. No way. Yeah, he was

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like doing coke or something. No
one knows. Actually, I don't think

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it's I don't think it's drugs because
his ex wife came out and said that

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she thinks she's had like a mental
breakdown or something like that. I mean,

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drugs can definitely like Blake Griffin a
mental breakdown, that's true. He

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can push you right to the edge. He's also been boxing, since like,

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oh he's a kid, he's probably
some hello CT as well. Yeah,

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probably a good combination of it all. But uh, I guess probayers

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off to him, and there's no
the fight hasn't been called off as of

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yet. I don't know if that
one. That one's kind of scary.

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Wasn't there like one too that he
was like missing or something or people just

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couldn't contact him for a few hours. That's what happened. He reported himself

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as dead or I don't know if
it's him, but he said stuck got

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hacked. The guy hacked or reported
on his Instagram he like he was killed

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or dead or something like that,
and he's gonna get in contact him body.

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Then he posted something last night say
I'm okay an Yeah maybe maybe that's

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what. I don't know that that
was pretty crazy. And then I guess

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I'll put this in here for Chris, but we got three minutes. Maybe

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we save it. Towards the end, it's this little Pistons venting session about

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Monty's inability to stagger Kay Cunningham and
Jade n Ivy. In the comments,

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he had evolving again staying that he
can't do it because don't want to be

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a small lineup. Just want to
say that one Chris and we've got three.

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No, there's really not much to
say other than that is a dumb

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excuse because at the end of the
day, your team has single digit wins.

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Get your shit together, try some
shit, like what is what is

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worse? What is gonna get outscored
more than the bench unit? Nothing?

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The bench unit sucks. They had
one good game recently where they were like,

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okay for a stretch, but the
bench unit has sucked all season.

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Matter of fact, I look up
some numbers Caid with with Stuart and Duran

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is plus nine. How are you
plus nine on a team that how's that?

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A lineup that's plus nine yeah,
with no spacing, but also on

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such a losing team. That shows
that not only is that team good,

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but that that lineup is really good. Like there's things that he can figure

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out and he could try and he
said, no more trying shit. But

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it's like you're doing the same shit. You're not really you're not really making

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too many changes. People were saying
that he slightly changes rotations, but honestly,

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it's just stubbornness. And I'm at
the point where dude, I just

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I just want to wash my hands
of this situation. I just want to

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be done with it. Move on, let's try to find another coach something,

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because I'm over it. I'm over
this. He's actively trying to get

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fired. You can't. There's no
other way to explain this shit. I

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mean a DNC and T says perfectly. In the comments, he says a

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small lineup in quotation Mark, Meanwhile, you try to out Sasser and Flynn.

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Yeah, what do you mean,
bro, I mean, I don't

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know. Many Maybe we bring into
a little bit of back half. The

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other were about to say, Nick, you want to speak a piece of

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your season take older. Yeah.
I was just gonna close this one off

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by asking do the Pistons keep it
within twenty tonight in South Beach? No,

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I don't know, but we are
we cooking up tonight. That's the

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real question. I don't even want
you anymore. Zero. We have to

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at least sprinkle something so we can
watch it. The parlay. The Pistons

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parlay finally finally died out against Orlando
when they benched Ivy and k for like

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the back half of the game.
M hm, hos fucking well We'll go

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conservative and I cook up a winner. We'll cook up a winner. Hey,

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that's what we do, heavyweights.
We cooking. The piston parlay is

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guys have already, please make sure guys

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mash up like fire starve you know, off podcast platforms. We'll calling a

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little bit of an audible spinning.
I put that one in there last night.

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Wow, everything was blowing up.
Omaha o my ha uh. I

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should have screenshot too. If you
guys aren't active on x or if you're

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active on Instagram, see your GUARDA
Johnson reci changed his Twitter profile picture and

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our miss Instagram profile picture to him
in the Detroit Lions uniform and change the

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bio to mind over matter, and
I guess Twitter's kind of like wondering if

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he's leaving. I don't think it
would mean he's leaving if you put himself

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in an a Lion's uniform, per
se what. I don't care what athletes

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do with their social media's. It
always means some of them. I mean,

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doesn't remember when Ivy got rid of
all of the piston stuff on his

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Twitter. And it doesn't matter,
bro, We'll see what happens. If

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it happens, it happens. Them
changing their Instagram bio is not gonna sway

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me to think it's gonna happen one
way or the other. I think there's

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something to it. I think,
ey single time when these athletes change their

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bio or like do these weird things
like something is coming. I mean,

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they got millions of dollars and maybe
it's just bored and that's what they do.

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I mean, when the Kyler Murray
stuff happened, something led to that,

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as we've seen in the past with
other athletes too. I think this

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is a positive science for Detroit Alliance
fans, though, I think this means

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he is going to return to the
Detroit Alliance. Why else would you make

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your profile picture yourself at the uniform. That's not the case. I don't

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know, I don't I don't really. Like I said, I don't care

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about they changed their profile picture,
they changed their bio. Whoa look out

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Like, no, it's whatever,
couchles, Oh what is he doing taking

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his nap? My man, I
see you dipped out of there. Go

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ahead, Chris. For me,
it's it's the corniest thing, bro,

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I don't care. Like usually you're
right easy, it means something. But

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this is by far my least favorite
segment. Well, whenever we have to

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talk about somebody changing their social media
it's the most boring shit in the world.

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It's corny. The athletes know they're
doing it for whatever reason they want

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to be cryptic, and like,
I blame Lebron for this. I know

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everybody blames Lebron for a lot of
things, but that's zero dark thirty.

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Now I feel like that inspired all
this bullshit. Now we don't do it

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either. I think yeah time,
yeah, it does it once. Then

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you'd be looking at his likes.
He's like im porn and stuff. It's

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like, all right, bro,
but no, it's to me, it's

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just it's stupid. It's stupid,
it's corny. It doesn't mean anything.

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Mind over matter. I mean,
I guess it's better than money over success,

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right. I guess it means the
Lions aren't giving him a bag,

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like if you really want to dive
into it. I guess which that makes

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you happy? Easy, because you
damn sure don't want him having money you

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and spinin That whole beef started because
of Smitty. He's fucking calling with cancer.

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Huh did not did not call mcnzer. I think you're saying the Detroit

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Lions and I guess if you want
to turn into the fun part of the

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segment, a former Detroit Lion safety
Slash Nickel was released saved by the Seattle

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Seahawks, and that's Quandre Diggs.
Jamal Adams is part of that equation too.

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I don't really see that as a
reality of him coming here and taking

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part of any type of rotation to
a manch Jamal Adams and probably the same

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with Quadra Diggs, but some people
want to bring him home Quandra Diggs,

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that is Nino if you will to
the Detroit Lions. How you guys telling

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about that one? I mean,
how much is he gonna cost. I'm

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not going out there and spending a
starting safety or spending money on a starting

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safety who's not gonna start for us. So if he's gonna come in here,

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if you can get him on a
cheap deal, sure it'd be cool.

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It's depth pieast, but we have
our starters at safety position. Now,

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how's that apply for you? Towards
CJDJ said, I think got you

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won? Yeah, and see you're
bringing him back. I mean, I'm

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not giving him the Tracy Walker contract
because Tracy just got cut for making that.

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If you're gonna sign one of these
guys, he signed him to a

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five million dollars a year deal.
Like get that's cool for me. That

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works, bring him back, have
the that is a great depth piece to

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have either one of those guys.
But I'm not looking to pay starter money

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to a guy that's not going to
start. Nick. I'm right there with

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you, spend Mode. I just
don't know if Quandre Diggs is the same

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player he was when he first went
to the Seattle Seahawks. He had three

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great seasons, great Pro Bowl seasons
in a row, but last year he

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had less interceptions. Last past is
defended than the previous three years. He's

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thirty years old as a safety.
I just don't know if this is the

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right time to be bringing in Aquandre
Diggs. Where when we let him walk

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he was still a Pro Bowl talent. I just don't know if he is

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at this point to be a non
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if it's the right fit to me. I think that's that makes him effort

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for the Detroit Lions, just because
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a depth piece or like, I
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Obviously, if you get it,
that's a plus, but I don't think

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it's like your expectation for like your
debt piece in the situation, you know,

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yeah, I just do not want
snaps being taken from guys like Brian

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Branch. And that goes for CJ. Gardner Johnson as well, if he

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does return to this team. I
do want it to be in that rotation,

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because we saw what guys like Branch
can do last year, a guy

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like if he we all know what
Kirby Joseph's playmaking abilities are very good for

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this defense. So I just don't
want to be taking snaps away from these

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guys that really helped this defense kind
of transform at the back end of last

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year. Yeah, I guess like
that's the part where I don't know what

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he's looking for at this point in
his career. I mean, you just

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said it already. He's what thirty
years old? Is how he's thirty one

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years old and he's still maybe in
a situation where he can go somewhere and

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start. I don't I mean,
do you guys think that's the situation he's

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looking for. Do you think he's
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Yes, I don't think he wants
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wants to go somewhere and get paid
and start and play games. And in

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Detroit he would not he would not
They're not gonna pay him a lot,

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and he's he wouldn't be a starter
on this team. So now I don't

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think that's a fit because at the
age obviously he's getting cut, he's expendable,

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and they're in the Seattle Seahawks eyes
right, It's like maybe he is

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at that stage in his career.
I mean he did fall off, like

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Nick said, from like the Pro
Bowl years, and I guess the same

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could be said up for like CJDJ
two is like what is he looking to

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do? I guess see a situation
where just because he knows what it is

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here or he wants to come here
and compete. And I think that's always

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on the floor despite like how much
money was was or I guess where somebody

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was drafted, and like the upside
of this guy like no, Dan Campbell,

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Aaron Glenn and everybody else, like
they're gonna give that starting spot to

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whoever deserves it at the end of
the day. I don't I don't think

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that matters. As much as we
love Brian Branch. I think that matters

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of like the upside of what we
think he could be. If if CJ.

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Gardner Johnson is out beforming him at
camp, he's probably gonn end up

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being the starter. But he wasn't. Last year when Brian Branch was a

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rookie, they literally moved Chawn Gardner
Johnson out of that position because Brian Branch

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was performing so well. So I
don't think that changes after getting a year

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of experience. That's them the beef
or not that one. But when the

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one with Ivy, yeah, because
once if he got the reps and you

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know, the defense looked a lot
different, a lot different. I'm open

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to either situation. But I'm with
you guys too, as long as if

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you bring back one of those guys, you're not going to be paying them

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ten million dollars a year. Like
you bring back one of those guys,

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they're going to be getting paid as
a depth to safety. They're going to

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be getting paid as a guy who
is the third option when you look at

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safeties in the room. So that's
what five million dollars a year. And

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if you sign one of them for
that deal, yeah, I'm cool with

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that. Those Either of those guys
I would love to have on this team

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under those circumstances because they are still
great players that if somebody does get injured,

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god forbid, you'd love to have
one of those guys fill in.

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But I don't see Brad Holmes paying
those guys starter money to not start just

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to fans as Brad Holmes loves them
broken toys. I guess you could speak

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to the broken toy stuff. We're
probably gonn speak to the broken toy stuff.

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We come back at six twenty eight. But Demanuel Mosey resigning. But

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I don't think CJ. Gardner,
Johnson or Quandri Diggs is broken if that's

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what you're referring to. He was
thinking of Mosley. Yeah, And I

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guess I guess rom lost And I'm
not like attacking. I guess I'm trying

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to get to other standing, Like
do you think Chauncey's coming here to be

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a depth piece? You think Chauncey's
coming here to win the starting job?

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Well, see, I mean I
think he expects to win the starting job,

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but I think Brad Holmes in the
front office isn't gonna pay him.

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It's a guy who's gonna be starting
because they have their starter in place.

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They have a starter that they're comfortable
with in place, and ifon tu Melifan.

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So if you're coming back here,
yeah, you should want to win

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the starting job and you should be
doing that, but you're not gonna get

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paid as a starter. And I'm
an open market right now? Do you

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think Chauncey makes less than Quandre?
I think they're pretty similar because what Chounce's

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what twenty seven? Yeah, I
think they'd be pretty similar what they'd get

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paid, just because Quandre has like
the resume. Yeah yeah. I mean

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if there's similar what they're getting paid, and you think that's something you're willing

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to pausented a swallow when it comes
like Johnson, gother Johnson, why aren't

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you want to do it? Guy? I am just fucking said I am.

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If you get them on a contract
like that, either of them,

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yes, I'll take them. Are
just mischief. If Quandre Diggs says,

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Okay, I'll take five million dollars
a year to go be a backup in

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Detroit, Yeah, cool. Do
I think he's gonna do that? No?

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So if he comes in here expecting
to get a ten plus million,

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sorry buddy, No, it's not
gonna happen. But if you'll take the

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same kind of contract that Chaunson Gardner
Johnson took last year, sure, why

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not? Yeah? I don't think
he's geting ten plus million, whether it's

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from Uster somebody else. At thirty
one years old, I mean, how

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many more years can you guarantee,
like you said, he fell off just

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recently his last year. Yeah,
it's not like there was like injuries in

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there. He played all seventeen games, which is something that you know,

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everyone should value that in guys who
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And speaking of a guy that hasn't
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So it's like, and we bring
him back on another prove it one year

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type deal like we brought in Moseley
last year. Is my question with Gardner

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Johnson. I don't know if he
will come here if he's not like guaranteed

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the job. If he wants to
work for it, one hundred percent,

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let's do it. But I just
don't even think Gardner Johnson himself is gonna

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get a big deal. If he
wants to come back to this Detroit Lions

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team, if he likes the the
way this team is moving in the right

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direction, I bring him back for
cheap, one hundred percent. But I

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just don't know if he's the kind
of guy that wants to come back to

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that on a discounted price. Who
do you think is gonna be cheaper Gardner

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Johnson for the fact that he has
not played. Yeah. Yeah, I

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mean I almost feel like Quandre is
the cheaper one, just because like the

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age he's at, and maybe he's
not. It's a good question, yeah,

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I mean, I mean I don't
have I'm not saying who's right or

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wrong. I just I just can't
really see him getting a bag at thirty

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one years old. At this point
in his career, he's already kind of

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like underside. I think it has
to be like the perfect situation, you

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know, to play that that nicol
spot slash like safety role, which again

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that's it's here. Is he ready
to do that? Though? I don't

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know. I'm trying to think of
the top savities in the league, and

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like their age is obviously Hymn is
the first one that comes to mind,

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but everybody else Minca, Minca,
which I want to say, he's like

405
00:25:17.000 --> 00:25:19.920
twenty eight, twenty nine probably,
Yeah, Like I think I think Quandre

406
00:25:21.079 --> 00:25:23.160
might be at this twenty seven.
Minka's only twenty seven. Yeah, that's

407
00:25:23.200 --> 00:25:26.279
amazing, Good for him. That
guy's a dog. Now. I think

408
00:25:26.359 --> 00:25:30.480
Quandri might be at that the stage's
career he's I don't know if he's mentally

409
00:25:30.480 --> 00:25:32.279
ready to be a death piece but
if he's gonna come here, he's gonna

410
00:25:32.279 --> 00:25:34.759
be open to competing, Like,
hey, that's would you rather have him

411
00:25:34.839 --> 00:25:40.759
or CJ? Just as a player
wise, Pou pomp probably CJ. What

412
00:25:40.920 --> 00:25:45.279
he the younger age, what he
brings, you know, emotionally and mentally

413
00:25:45.680 --> 00:25:49.079
to the team. He is more
familiar with Aaron Glenn's system and what what

414
00:25:49.279 --> 00:25:52.799
he likes to do. So if
you're saying I could get either of them

415
00:25:52.880 --> 00:25:56.680
for the same price tag, I
would lean towards Chaunta Gardner Johnson, who

416
00:25:56.759 --> 00:26:00.319
thinks better pop for PO. I
think CD do has the higher upside right

417
00:26:00.400 --> 00:26:04.440
now, like Spencer said, because
of his age and we've seen the playmaking

418
00:26:04.519 --> 00:26:08.559
abilities that he has in the secondary. I mean, he gets picks every

419
00:26:08.640 --> 00:26:12.680
time he plays. It's just how
often can this guy stay on the field.

420
00:26:14.119 --> 00:26:17.400
That's my biggest concern with CJ.
And obviously we saw him in the

421
00:26:17.480 --> 00:26:22.119
NFC Championship game Struggle, but that
was his I think fifth game of the

422
00:26:22.200 --> 00:26:25.920
season or fourth game of the season. So if he has a full year

423
00:26:26.000 --> 00:26:30.839
under his belt, I got high
expectations for a guy like CJ. Yeah,

424
00:26:30.880 --> 00:26:33.880
I'm leaving a CJ too many and
I just I really do love the

425
00:26:33.960 --> 00:26:37.559
mentality he brought, and I think
that well both answers, you can't go

426
00:26:37.720 --> 00:26:41.920
wrong. I definitely think that CJDJ
has some to prove, and I think

427
00:26:41.960 --> 00:26:45.680
he's shown that he really does want
to make this work in Detroit for many

428
00:26:45.720 --> 00:26:48.759
reasons, not just for the payday, but I think he embraced the city

429
00:26:48.920 --> 00:26:52.039
and he embraced the position the Lions
are in, and so I think the

430
00:26:52.119 --> 00:26:56.599
locker room seems to love him bring
him back, Like I'm all for bringing

431
00:26:56.640 --> 00:26:59.559
him back. I don't think it's
going to be a crazy price. I

432
00:26:59.640 --> 00:27:03.359
mean, honestly be shocked if he
signed for more than what he signed for

433
00:27:03.519 --> 00:27:07.039
last year. I can't imagine it's
going to be more. And I know

434
00:27:07.160 --> 00:27:10.599
that it's obviously a depth piece,
so you're assuming less off of the injury

435
00:27:10.720 --> 00:27:14.000
and that it being the depth piece. But yeah, man throw him a

436
00:27:14.079 --> 00:27:17.200
money. I don't think he's going
to get a contract that's too crazy.

437
00:27:17.480 --> 00:27:21.240
And I think Brad Holmes has shown
time and time again he is financially responsible.

438
00:27:21.319 --> 00:27:25.799
So if he PAYSJ Dot CJDJ something, I don't look at that and

439
00:27:26.240 --> 00:27:29.680
then start to question his other his
other free agent acquisitions. I think he's

440
00:27:29.720 --> 00:27:33.759
shown that whatever price point he signs
a player too, it's going to be

441
00:27:33.880 --> 00:27:37.039
relatively fair to their value. Mm
hmm. Yeah, it's not like when

442
00:27:37.079 --> 00:27:41.359
people are I missed all the time. It's not resetting the market or yeah,

443
00:27:41.680 --> 00:27:44.440
I hate whim the habits. I
mean, Daniel Jones a perfect examples

444
00:27:44.920 --> 00:27:47.920
for the show. Forty five million
dollars for a fucking what reason. I'm

445
00:27:48.000 --> 00:27:49.400
in Ron's a perfect example, right, Like, that's a receiver that,

446
00:27:49.599 --> 00:27:52.680
like some teams, if they were
in the Lion's position, would reset the

447
00:27:52.759 --> 00:27:57.240
market with him, you know,
a young Pro Bowl receiver like I could

448
00:27:57.480 --> 00:28:02.000
yeah, or All Pro receiver like
that's the guy that that's the guy that

449
00:28:02.119 --> 00:28:06.599
you could see resetting the market.
But there's no discussion of anything like that

450
00:28:06.759 --> 00:28:08.680
happening with Aman. I don't think. I don't think Brad Holmes plays that

451
00:28:08.799 --> 00:28:12.559
game. So I trust I trust
that financially, whoever he signs it is

452
00:28:12.599 --> 00:28:15.880
going to be a fair deal.
And you just got to hope for health

453
00:28:15.920 --> 00:28:19.279
and durability. That's the only question. Uh, D N C E and

454
00:28:19.319 --> 00:28:22.799
T and what was sports Chat says, I can see us grabbing a safety

455
00:28:22.799 --> 00:28:26.000
in the fourth or fifth before we
signed CJ or Diggs. I think that

456
00:28:26.160 --> 00:28:29.519
makes the most sense, But I
also understand that they're in a position where,

457
00:28:29.640 --> 00:28:33.480
like Dan Camill said before they went
to the offseason, they want that.

458
00:28:33.759 --> 00:28:37.920
Uh, it's not camaraderie. What
is it, like everyone knows what

459
00:28:37.960 --> 00:28:40.960
the hell's going on? Like everything's
is already in motion. Cohesion, he

460
00:28:41.039 --> 00:28:44.599
he wants that, And if you're
making a Super Bowl run, you value

461
00:28:44.599 --> 00:28:47.680
that cohesion versus a rookie deal.
Yeah, probably so, Yes, So

462
00:28:47.799 --> 00:28:49.720
I wouldn't be surprised if CGG comes
back. It's probably similar to what the

463
00:28:49.799 --> 00:28:55.039
deal was last year. But I'm
also open to a rookie being that situation

464
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about the Detroit Lions the secondary when we

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Off, a K Detroit Mario.
I will get the phone him in the

494
00:31:19.119 --> 00:31:22.160
chat. You guys wanna call and
give your take on the c J d

495
00:31:22.279 --> 00:31:26.720
J versus Quandre Diggs or like DN
C and T. You said possibly a

496
00:31:26.839 --> 00:31:30.640
rookie. I would look to chat
for a couple of like comments to buy

497
00:31:30.720 --> 00:31:34.640
some time with. And I'm just
seeing mandarins and QTS oranges. That's that's

498
00:31:34.680 --> 00:31:40.799
the discussion. We're having fun with
quties fuck with QTS too. I think

499
00:31:40.880 --> 00:31:42.799
QUT is the way to go less
season. I'm not mistaken. It's the

500
00:31:42.839 --> 00:31:48.200
same thing. Shifts, the same
thing, yeah, shift, guys.

501
00:31:48.240 --> 00:31:51.519
Is a lot of teams want CJ. I know fan bases want CJ.

502
00:31:51.640 --> 00:31:56.240
I'm not so sure teams, dude, I mean we'll find out. Maybe

503
00:31:56.240 --> 00:32:00.039
it's the market. Why is that? Yeah, I don't know. I

504
00:32:00.119 --> 00:32:06.559
think the injury history. Not sure. Sure. I'm pretty any other bright

505
00:32:06.640 --> 00:32:10.559
ideas, No, no, because
spaces just go take them and spit them

506
00:32:10.559 --> 00:32:14.440
out of control. Digs is thirty
one. By the way, Nicolas duncan

507
00:32:14.599 --> 00:32:17.960
but continue the conversation about the detro
line secondary. They re signed Emanuel Moseley.

508
00:32:19.480 --> 00:32:22.319
No details on the contract, but
it's a one year deal, the

509
00:32:22.359 --> 00:32:24.359
guy that brought in last year to
b CB one until he tore his other

510
00:32:24.440 --> 00:32:30.359
a c O first game back from
tearing the left a c O. How

511
00:32:30.359 --> 00:32:31.960
do we feel about that? For
you? I mean, I got glass

512
00:32:32.000 --> 00:32:37.119
bones of paper skin. You know, every night I break my legs and

513
00:32:37.119 --> 00:32:38.559
every morning I break my arms.
At night, I just lie in bed

514
00:32:38.640 --> 00:32:42.759
until the heart attacks put me to
sleep. It's it's tough, man.

515
00:32:43.000 --> 00:32:46.920
I I'd love to see the number
attached to it. I'd assume it's very,

516
00:32:47.119 --> 00:32:53.200
very very very very very very very
very low. Like it better be

517
00:32:53.640 --> 00:32:59.759
very very very very very very very
very very low, or I'm gonna be

518
00:32:59.839 --> 00:33:04.599
kind. But it's if you pay
him the veteran minimum and he comes in

519
00:33:04.759 --> 00:33:07.079
and he doesn't trip on a play
the grass and break his leg, then

520
00:33:07.160 --> 00:33:09.559
maybe he'll be a good addition to
his team. You know, if he

521
00:33:09.599 --> 00:33:14.680
can play more than three snaps in
a season, he can be a good

522
00:33:14.759 --> 00:33:20.519
player. But fuck Brad, like, there's no downside, there's no nothing

523
00:33:20.880 --> 00:33:23.400
down The downside is he breaks his
leg again or he tears his a c

524
00:33:23.559 --> 00:33:27.480
L again and we paid him another
deal and he did nothing for us again.

525
00:33:27.680 --> 00:33:35.079
But because the past two years and
he hasn't played more than three snaps

526
00:33:35.240 --> 00:33:37.680
it all, and you gave him
a second deal. It's not a downside

527
00:33:37.720 --> 00:33:40.160
to pay the guy and him not
play at all, because not how it

528
00:33:40.200 --> 00:33:43.720
works. If you get hurt and
those one of your deals that is probably

529
00:33:43.759 --> 00:33:46.079
heavily there's heavy incentives when it comes
like if you're actually play the games right,

530
00:33:46.160 --> 00:33:51.839
that's one of the things increased the
cast basically, like is not going

531
00:33:51.960 --> 00:33:54.480
another downside of this deal whatsoever.
You're signing Manuel Moseley, guy who could

532
00:33:54.480 --> 00:33:59.240
be your quarterback one on your team. At the worst case scenario, a

533
00:33:59.319 --> 00:34:00.960
depth piece with you does get hurt. He's not getting paid anything. Crazy.

534
00:34:01.000 --> 00:34:04.559
Who knows if he can be a
cornerback one on a team coming off

535
00:34:04.559 --> 00:34:07.400
of two a cl tairs. Who
knows if he could play more than three

536
00:34:07.480 --> 00:34:12.079
snaps in the season without tearing another
ligament? Like the downside for me is

537
00:34:12.159 --> 00:34:14.760
then being like, Okay, we
got Emmanuel Moseley. Now we don't have

538
00:34:14.800 --> 00:34:16.480
to go get somebody else because we
got Emmanuel Mosey. And then you have

539
00:34:16.960 --> 00:34:21.159
then you had Kendall Vildors. It
was the case last year. It was

540
00:34:21.239 --> 00:34:22.920
the exact same case last year.
It was exact same case last year.

541
00:34:23.119 --> 00:34:27.679
Last year, wasn't coming off with
two torn a who was the other cornerbacks

542
00:34:27.679 --> 00:34:30.840
gonna sign and be like, yep, we're good here now draft, I

543
00:34:30.920 --> 00:34:34.880
hope not guarded the first round.
I hope not. No, it's not

544
00:34:35.119 --> 00:34:39.360
hope. That's what he did off
of a cl tair last year and was

545
00:34:39.360 --> 00:34:43.679
like, all right, that's our
cornerback one, and then two three snaps

546
00:34:43.719 --> 00:34:45.800
into his seasons, he's down for
the rest of the year, and you

547
00:34:45.880 --> 00:34:51.320
have Kendall Fildor playing snaps in the
NFC Championship. He's literally coming up with

548
00:34:51.400 --> 00:34:54.119
two a cls. He's not signing
him and baking on him to be CB

549
00:34:54.280 --> 00:35:01.159
one and or CB two he did
last year' he wasn't coming up with two

550
00:35:01.239 --> 00:35:05.880
a cl tears. Okay, he
was coming off with one. It's not

551
00:35:06.000 --> 00:35:09.239
a different scenarios, so different two
a cls versus one a c l on

552
00:35:09.320 --> 00:35:12.920
the on the top of my head, on the count of my hand,

553
00:35:12.920 --> 00:35:15.119
I could name you one athlete who
has done it, one NFL athlete.

554
00:35:15.280 --> 00:35:20.440
That's Odell Beckham. Okay, so
that I could know. But you're trying

555
00:35:20.440 --> 00:35:22.320
to say it's the same as that
situation is not at all. He's coming

556
00:35:22.320 --> 00:35:23.880
off two a cls. Brad Holmes
is signing him to be the CB one.

557
00:35:23.960 --> 00:35:25.840
I mean there's a hope that he
could be the CV one. There's

558
00:35:25.880 --> 00:35:30.800
the upside there, yes, but
he's not all right. There is no

559
00:35:31.119 --> 00:35:37.400
thought in my mind, no reasonable
thought in my mind, that Emmanuel Mosley

560
00:35:37.440 --> 00:35:39.079
will be the CB one for the
Lions next year. That will not Why

561
00:35:39.159 --> 00:35:43.119
you why you acting like then that's
the only movies making. Why is that?

562
00:35:43.679 --> 00:35:45.280
I'm not saying I'm just saying I
hope it's not. I hope it's

563
00:35:45.320 --> 00:35:47.760
not. You need to bring in
a guy who's gonna play more than three

564
00:35:47.800 --> 00:35:52.119
snaps because I don't want to see
undrafted free agents playing meaningful snaps in the

565
00:35:52.199 --> 00:35:54.760
NFC Championship game. I don't.
I can't see that happen again. And

566
00:35:54.880 --> 00:35:58.159
that's not the case. That's what
I'm saying. There's no downside. This

567
00:35:58.239 --> 00:36:00.159
is a depth move. He's not
paid a ton of money. It's a

568
00:36:00.239 --> 00:36:02.800
one year deal. He has the
upside of being a Stevie one if it

569
00:36:02.880 --> 00:36:06.559
works out. Who's to say.
At the very least, I'd rather have

570
00:36:06.719 --> 00:36:08.360
him out there as my death piece
than Kendo Willdor. I mean, there's

571
00:36:08.360 --> 00:36:12.239
snaps of him out there going to
to toe with DeVonta Adams. That's what

572
00:36:12.320 --> 00:36:16.280
Aaron Rodgers is quarterback like this guy
when he's five years ago. But there's

573
00:36:16.280 --> 00:36:19.320
no downside to us. What I'm
saying like that, just this is not

574
00:36:19.360 --> 00:36:21.719
a part of the conversation. Like
if he gets hurt, he gets hurt,

575
00:36:21.760 --> 00:36:23.920
it's whatever. But the deal is
more than likely incentive laden it's probably

576
00:36:24.079 --> 00:36:27.960
a veteran minimum at that I mean, even a little bit more, we

577
00:36:28.039 --> 00:36:30.800
probably could have got Kendall Vildor for
the same price that you got at Manual

578
00:36:30.840 --> 00:36:36.320
Mosley. Okay, that's a great
deal. I would I would rather No,

579
00:36:36.400 --> 00:36:39.800
you wouldn't, because pund for a
better quarterback sitting on the bench in

580
00:36:39.800 --> 00:36:44.239
a hoodie and Kendall Wildor has a
helmet on playing snaps. I think that's

581
00:36:44.320 --> 00:36:47.280
more valuable if you've got a guy
out there that actually plays football rather than

582
00:36:47.320 --> 00:36:51.960
the dude sitting on the Benchman,
that's not a completely hypothetical scenario. Like

583
00:36:52.000 --> 00:37:00.960
a player Emanuel Moseley as a better
football player than Kendo Field, you sign

584
00:37:01.039 --> 00:37:04.920
him on a similar or same deal
he signed Kendel build or two. Sorry,

585
00:37:04.960 --> 00:37:07.559
Bud, that's a win. There's
no downside to whatsoever. It's still

586
00:37:07.679 --> 00:37:10.079
continue to address the quarterback situation.
Justice has been rumored in specult the Detroit

587
00:37:10.119 --> 00:37:14.119
Lions will be. The downside to
it is he's doing what he did last

588
00:37:14.199 --> 00:37:16.079
year and the year before that,
which is sitting on the sideline not wearing

589
00:37:16.119 --> 00:37:19.800
all. Sit here and be upset
about it is this. It's just stupid

590
00:37:19.800 --> 00:37:22.519
to me. That just makes no
sense. But the downside on the song,

591
00:37:22.639 --> 00:37:24.320
like I'm not even looking at it. I mean, I understand from

592
00:37:24.320 --> 00:37:29.400
because you said you'd paying four million
dollars a year, which is absolutely ludicrous.

593
00:37:29.760 --> 00:37:30.599
If he signed a deal it was
up to four million dollars a deal.

594
00:37:30.639 --> 00:37:32.880
I think that makes sense if he
can, if you stay healthy,

595
00:37:34.000 --> 00:37:36.719
that's what he plays to, if
he could stay healthy. In a similar

596
00:37:36.800 --> 00:37:40.159
situation, was signed to last year. He wasn't paid the full amount he

597
00:37:40.280 --> 00:37:43.639
was signed to. It is because
guess what, he got hurt. That's

598
00:37:43.679 --> 00:37:45.039
how these things work. You don't
just sign your deal unless you're like an

599
00:37:45.039 --> 00:37:47.719
all star guy and you got the
guaranteed money in there. There's a one

600
00:37:47.800 --> 00:37:52.360
year proven deal, another one year
proved deal that's after he didn't prove it

601
00:37:52.440 --> 00:37:54.360
the previous year. It's a team
friendly deal. This is there is literally

602
00:37:54.440 --> 00:37:57.760
no downside to it. There's just
nothing to bitch about. There's nothing to

603
00:37:57.760 --> 00:38:02.400
complain about. Still in my cornerback, my emergency cornerback. If if that's

604
00:38:02.440 --> 00:38:06.519
what he is, If he is
your emergency quarterback, he's your cornerback.

605
00:38:06.599 --> 00:38:09.679
Three that in case somebody you actually
have faith in playing gets hurt, he's

606
00:38:09.719 --> 00:38:13.559
got to go in. I'd rather
have a guy that doesn't have two ACL

607
00:38:13.599 --> 00:38:15.239
tears in two years, a guy
that played three snaps for you and then

608
00:38:15.360 --> 00:38:17.280
was out for the rest of the
year. I'd rather have it be a

609
00:38:17.360 --> 00:38:22.639
guy that I have confidence in that
body can hold up and play games if

610
00:38:22.679 --> 00:38:27.440
you need him to. I have
absolutely zero confidence in Emmanuel Moseley being able

611
00:38:27.519 --> 00:38:30.159
to play more than two games for
the Detroit Lions if you need him.

612
00:38:30.280 --> 00:38:32.559
And I'm not saying pretend like his
injury history like doesn't exist. It's it's

613
00:38:32.639 --> 00:38:36.559
definitely like there, but like just
sit here and like bitch, like that's

614
00:38:36.559 --> 00:38:38.320
the final move made at the cornerback
spot. That's how Brad Holmes Detroit lines

615
00:38:38.320 --> 00:38:42.960
are addressing the cornerback spot where the
guy had the two torn acls heading into

616
00:38:42.960 --> 00:38:46.159
a year where they have the mindset
of competing for a super Bowl. That's

617
00:38:46.199 --> 00:38:49.679
just as crazy. It's a death
piece. It's a one year deal.

618
00:38:49.840 --> 00:38:52.880
It's probably incentive lated where you're like, if he gets hurt or doesn't play

619
00:38:52.880 --> 00:38:54.239
a certain amount of games, certa
Mond snaps, the rest of that money's

620
00:38:54.280 --> 00:38:58.199
not being used. Like it's just
there's no there's no negative to it.

621
00:38:58.280 --> 00:39:00.880
They're still gonna dress the quarnerback spot
for the draft or free agency and or

622
00:39:00.960 --> 00:39:05.039
trade. And I'm still the mind
if they're gonna grab I want to say,

623
00:39:05.159 --> 00:39:07.920
a superstar, per se, but
a piece that you can rely on,

624
00:39:07.159 --> 00:39:10.840
the piece that you're looking for that's
still definitely looking for. You can't

625
00:39:10.880 --> 00:39:15.480
even have him play special teams because
he's made a glass and if he plays

626
00:39:15.519 --> 00:39:19.719
two special teams snaps and breaks his
leg, what happens next? I'd rather

627
00:39:19.840 --> 00:39:22.000
have if this is a guy,
but you don't. This is a guy

628
00:39:22.039 --> 00:39:24.559
you don't want to play? Is
what you signed him for? A guy?

629
00:39:24.800 --> 00:39:28.840
Don't understand though, bros. You
can still bring in Kendle like he's

630
00:39:28.880 --> 00:39:30.199
signed to such a little situate deal
right now? Do we know? We

631
00:39:30.239 --> 00:39:32.519
don't know what it is yet.
The money hasn't come out yet. Brother,

632
00:39:32.519 --> 00:39:35.480
what do you think is gonna be? I don't know you were expecting.

633
00:39:35.519 --> 00:39:37.639
There's no way, there's no way. You think it's like a monstrous

634
00:39:37.679 --> 00:39:40.880
deal. He can't bring back he
and Kendel Wilder as your debts. Well,

635
00:39:40.920 --> 00:39:45.400
they're not going to. They already
let Kendel Wilder and Jerry Jacob's walk.

636
00:39:45.519 --> 00:39:49.400
Well that's not to say that either
of jaredy Jacobs. Yeah, he's

637
00:39:49.400 --> 00:39:51.440
probably let walk because he put the
fall. Like, okay, I'm going

638
00:39:51.519 --> 00:39:54.079
moving on whatever, there's a there's
a world with Kendel Wilder returns to Detroit

639
00:39:54.119 --> 00:39:57.400
Lion. It's okay, Hey,
I'm a veteran guy. Let me go

640
00:39:57.440 --> 00:39:59.960
and see my options. Like that's
probably what's going on. I mean,

641
00:40:00.079 --> 00:40:01.360
ship went not even to the point
where phrasey is hit, where we know

642
00:40:01.400 --> 00:40:05.360
if he's getting brought back or not. But the amount of money they're paying

643
00:40:05.400 --> 00:40:07.400
him, you could pay him,
I guess you're talking one to two million

644
00:40:07.480 --> 00:40:10.719
dollars, like four million dollars at
most. That's with incentives like this is

645
00:40:10.840 --> 00:40:15.760
I would rather pay that to Kendallvildoor
or Jerry Jacobs. But you can literally

646
00:40:15.920 --> 00:40:20.719
bring both of them back. Why
would you would you bring all? They

647
00:40:20.800 --> 00:40:23.000
said they want to dress this team
with depth, throw money at depth,

648
00:40:23.000 --> 00:40:27.119
and I got all three of those
guys, Yes, why would you?

649
00:40:28.960 --> 00:40:31.119
Who's the third guy you're talking aout? Jerry Jacobs, Kendelvildoor and Emmanuel Moseley.

650
00:40:31.440 --> 00:40:35.639
Listen. I wish the best for
Jerry Jacobs. Jerry Jacobs had phenomenal

651
00:40:35.679 --> 00:40:37.239
moments here and I'm very proud of
what he did here Detroit. No,

652
00:40:37.559 --> 00:40:43.199
but kendallvilldor So you'd rather have Emmanuel
Moseley than Jerry Jacobs as as one of

653
00:40:43.239 --> 00:40:46.000
your backup cornerbacks. Yes, absolutely, I see I'm not. I mean,

654
00:40:46.079 --> 00:40:49.840
I've seen Jerry Jacobs of the field. I've seen Jerry Jacobs for the

655
00:40:49.920 --> 00:40:52.679
Lions make interceptions, make plays,
make things happen. What I've seen Emmanuel

656
00:40:52.679 --> 00:40:55.320
Moseley do for the Lions is played
two snaps and then be done for the

657
00:40:55.360 --> 00:40:58.360
rest of the year. That's fine. I've seen a million Mosy make plays

658
00:40:58.360 --> 00:41:00.199
in the MC Conference Championship two years
ago, three years ago. Like it's

659
00:41:00.280 --> 00:41:04.079
it's that's that's what he is.
He's a better player pound for pound when

660
00:41:04.079 --> 00:41:06.719
healthy, as the question is,
can be healthy, but at a discount

661
00:41:06.800 --> 00:41:08.920
deal that makes no sense to try
to be upset about it. And then

662
00:41:09.239 --> 00:41:13.000
on top of that too, you
maybe the NFC Conference Championship with Kendo Wilder

663
00:41:13.000 --> 00:41:15.159
at the starting spot. You could
bring both of them back discounted and then

664
00:41:15.159 --> 00:41:20.320
still address the quarnerback situation, and
then you have like a phenomenal cohesiveness with

665
00:41:20.440 --> 00:41:24.039
guys that know your system. Now
with both of them cohesion cohesion Cohesive isn't

666
00:41:24.039 --> 00:41:28.599
the word, because he can we
find that out chat. I don't care

667
00:41:28.679 --> 00:41:30.559
either way. Regardless, you have
two guys that know your system, both

668
00:41:30.599 --> 00:41:34.880
on discount deals, and you're still
gonna dress the quarterback situation again. I

669
00:41:34.920 --> 00:41:36.800
think it's gonna be through trade.
I mean, I'm hoping it's through trade

670
00:41:36.800 --> 00:41:39.079
because I got my eyes on Marshawn
Latimore. But yes, I'd rather have

671
00:41:39.280 --> 00:41:45.440
him as my backup, and I
I can bring them both guys that play

672
00:41:45.639 --> 00:41:49.880
personally. I want guys to play
on the field well played. And he

673
00:41:50.039 --> 00:41:52.199
got that deal from Brad Holmes.
You trust so much for a reason,

674
00:41:52.280 --> 00:41:53.360
right, because he's pretty good what
he does. Oh yeah, And that's

675
00:41:53.480 --> 00:41:57.199
that's a fault to Brad Holmes is
he does sign a lot of injured players

676
00:41:57.280 --> 00:41:59.920
and he continues to do that.
And the Detroit Lions went to the MC

677
00:42:00.000 --> 00:42:02.840
Conference Championships last year, so yeah, and they would have they would have

678
00:42:02.880 --> 00:42:08.440
gone further if they had somebody other
than an unrestricted free agent starting at cornerback

679
00:42:08.480 --> 00:42:10.840
for them. Yeah. I mean, it's just crazy that you can have

680
00:42:10.880 --> 00:42:14.119
both guys and it doesn't hurt you
at all. It's just nothing to be

681
00:42:14.239 --> 00:42:16.239
upset about. It really doesn't.
You could literally bring back him in Vildor

682
00:42:16.440 --> 00:42:20.519
and then go and get your other
guy. But we get back, We

683
00:42:20.800 --> 00:42:23.519
get Nick and Chris's takes on those
as well as another cornerback that's out there.

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714
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to go to you Nick because you
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Emanuel Moses being brought back on the
one year deal for the Detroit Alliance just

719
00:44:58.480 --> 00:45:00.320
I mean, you guys had basic
all the points on it, but in

720
00:45:00.440 --> 00:45:02.880
my eyes, you got to be
ready to play. And this guy is

721
00:45:04.039 --> 00:45:07.840
not able to play for this team
if we bring him in, which we

722
00:45:07.000 --> 00:45:10.199
did. Brad Holmes has the medicals
on him, so he must think that

723
00:45:10.280 --> 00:45:15.400
he can return from this as a
depth piece. That's kind of my that's

724
00:45:15.440 --> 00:45:19.519
my thought process on it. If
you can return after maybe week eight,

725
00:45:19.760 --> 00:45:22.440
week ten of next year to help
for a playoff push, that is the

726
00:45:22.519 --> 00:45:27.760
only thing that you can maybe expect
as like a death piece to return mid

727
00:45:27.920 --> 00:45:32.119
season for a playoff push. I
still need two outside corners to be added

728
00:45:32.159 --> 00:45:36.199
to the team. Whether it's through
the draft or free agency. So that's

729
00:45:36.199 --> 00:45:38.800
where I'm at with it. I
need two guys, one that's on camp

730
00:45:38.800 --> 00:45:44.880
Sun's level at least, and then
a one bona fide stud on the outside

731
00:45:45.360 --> 00:45:47.800
going into next season. So I
hope Brad has that same mindset, Chris,

732
00:45:50.519 --> 00:45:52.000
I'm with you, easy. I
think it's I think it's a good

733
00:45:52.239 --> 00:45:55.199
fair shot. I don't. I
don't expect it to be anything more than

734
00:45:55.239 --> 00:45:59.519
midimum. Now, if it is
more than the minimum, or drastically more

735
00:45:59.559 --> 00:46:02.199
than minimum, like you said,
four million, then I have some issues

736
00:46:02.239 --> 00:46:07.000
with it. But I'm with you. I think it's it's an upside swing,

737
00:46:07.599 --> 00:46:10.880
and clearly that cornerback room needs upside
swings, and I think that's one.

738
00:46:10.960 --> 00:46:15.920
Okay, can you count on you
know, Jerry Jacobs, Kendall Kendallvilldor

739
00:46:15.119 --> 00:46:19.400
like, those are those type of
guys. They had moments here, especially

740
00:46:19.519 --> 00:46:23.519
Jerry Jacobs, but ultimately I was
never really convinced that Jerry Jacobs was playing

741
00:46:23.559 --> 00:46:29.519
at was capable of maintaining the level
he was playing at. So I see

742
00:46:29.559 --> 00:46:32.480
this as a move that's just a
depth piece. Now again, if he

743
00:46:32.599 --> 00:46:37.840
doesn't address it going forward, then
yeah, I'm highly upset, But I

744
00:46:38.119 --> 00:46:43.719
feel like this is just a marginal
roster move that's really not gonna matter one

745
00:46:43.760 --> 00:46:45.920
way or the other. I really
don't think it's gonna be a story.

746
00:46:45.960 --> 00:46:50.599
I don't think we're gonna be sitting
here eight months from now talking about the

747
00:46:50.639 --> 00:46:53.920
Amanol Moseley signing one way or another. I really don't. If we are,

748
00:46:54.400 --> 00:46:58.320
I think it's because of a good
reason. I don't think we're gonna

749
00:46:58.320 --> 00:47:01.599
be talking about that screwed our season. If we're talking about it, it

750
00:47:01.719 --> 00:47:07.360
means that he actually stayed healthy or
stayed healthy for a stretch of games and

751
00:47:07.559 --> 00:47:12.280
contributed to a team that's chasing Super
Bowl. Yeah, I'm I'm with like,

752
00:47:12.679 --> 00:47:15.880
at the end of the day,
it's such a low risk, such

753
00:47:15.880 --> 00:47:17.840
a low risk. You're not You're
not. This is an eight million dollars

754
00:47:17.840 --> 00:47:21.559
deal. This is a multi year
deal. It's a one year deal,

755
00:47:21.719 --> 00:47:24.719
like I said, probably at the
very most, at the most of the

756
00:47:24.760 --> 00:47:29.519
four And it's not high side and
it's a high reward. And if it

757
00:47:29.599 --> 00:47:31.440
works out, we know what he
is when he plays. He is a

758
00:47:31.559 --> 00:47:36.360
CB one on a defense that I
believe was ranked the number one or number

759
00:47:36.400 --> 00:47:38.840
two before he joined the Detroit Lions. I don't even think that though.

760
00:47:38.960 --> 00:47:42.840
I think after two a cl tears, I don't think you're going to be

761
00:47:42.880 --> 00:47:45.960
a CB one Like, I don't
think that upside chance is as high as

762
00:47:46.000 --> 00:47:50.000
you think. Easy. Now,
can he be better than Kendall wildor off

763
00:47:50.039 --> 00:47:52.440
two a cl tears. Absolutely,
I think that's a conversation that could be.

764
00:47:52.679 --> 00:47:57.119
That can be possible. Oh yeah, like that, that's a possibility.

765
00:47:57.239 --> 00:48:00.280
But to expect him to be honestly
even better than Camp Sutton, I

766
00:48:00.360 --> 00:48:05.480
feel like it's is a reach.
He's going to be better than camp Sutton,

767
00:48:07.760 --> 00:48:12.800
like Cam I felt works better in
his zone. Emmanuel winning and healthy

768
00:48:12.920 --> 00:48:15.280
works better in like like a man
coverage, like like AG wants to do.

769
00:48:15.559 --> 00:48:17.280
But we'll see them the line.
Man. I mean, there's another

770
00:48:17.320 --> 00:48:21.599
guy talking about I guess contracts and
being given out today and guys being released

771
00:48:21.639 --> 00:48:25.280
from the contracts today. We find
the name here, oops, wrong sheet.

772
00:48:27.840 --> 00:48:31.280
Darius Williams, the Jacksonville Jaguars,
who was second in the league in

773
00:48:31.320 --> 00:48:35.960
past breakups, was released by their
team today. I wanted, I wanted,

774
00:48:36.079 --> 00:48:39.119
I wanted. Detroit Lions currently hold
his former position coach in the Shade

775
00:48:39.159 --> 00:48:43.960
Townsend at that same position where you
guys at with that one. We have

776
00:48:44.000 --> 00:48:46.320
a we have a yeah, let's
get that real quick than to I apologize.

777
00:48:47.119 --> 00:48:51.239
Let's go right out to El Gato
on his take for about this.

778
00:48:54.079 --> 00:48:59.320
What's up boy, what's up man? Yeah? I got to agree with

779
00:48:59.440 --> 00:49:01.599
Spinny with his mosley. Man,
this is just like throwing money in the

780
00:49:01.719 --> 00:49:07.440
toilet. It's like the dudes injured
consistently injured. You could use that even

781
00:49:07.480 --> 00:49:10.840
if it's league minimum. That could
be like a signing bonus or a roster

782
00:49:10.960 --> 00:49:15.840
bonus for one of the new draftees
a million dollars o Gatto. That is

783
00:49:16.159 --> 00:49:21.239
that is nothing, or a roster
spot that like Starling Thomas who got cut

784
00:49:21.360 --> 00:49:23.119
coming out of camp, went to
Arizona, started for them all year,

785
00:49:23.199 --> 00:49:28.320
but you couldn't have him on your
team because he had mostly no, no,

786
00:49:28.400 --> 00:49:30.280
no, it's not even a start
on the roster because he's on the

787
00:49:30.320 --> 00:49:32.639
i R. He he didn't take
he didn't take up a roster spot either.

788
00:49:32.920 --> 00:49:37.360
It's such low risk. There is
nothing to throw a fit about it

789
00:49:37.519 --> 00:49:40.239
is that. I mean, really, you gotta stop. We gotta stop

790
00:49:40.360 --> 00:49:46.400
resigning injured dudes, man, like
a hospital. Yeah, I mean that's

791
00:49:46.440 --> 00:49:50.239
the only guy to my mind.
I mean, I guess you maybe come

792
00:49:50.320 --> 00:49:52.719
with CJ GJ because he got hurt, but he did play in that super

793
00:49:52.719 --> 00:49:54.800
Bowl. Like I mean, Brad
takes risk, but like he's a he's

794
00:49:54.800 --> 00:50:00.239
a discount shopper, that's we got
he wants to get. He is Maclamore.

795
00:50:00.639 --> 00:50:05.079
He wants to grab those discount pieces
in the drafty or a star pieces

796
00:50:05.079 --> 00:50:07.000
of draft and I guess signed like
discount guys around that. But this is

797
00:50:07.079 --> 00:50:10.239
such a low risk man. There's
there's nothing to be upset about this that

798
00:50:10.360 --> 00:50:14.679
you could have him and Bildor and
then still grab the guy you want to

799
00:50:14.719 --> 00:50:16.880
be your CB one. This doesn't
stopping you from doing any of those things.

800
00:50:20.440 --> 00:50:22.360
I just don't want to see us
lose somebody coming out of camp that

801
00:50:22.599 --> 00:50:25.599
would be a good piece that could
play multiple positions, that can do things,

802
00:50:25.840 --> 00:50:29.800
play special teams, do other things
like that. A guy like that

803
00:50:29.920 --> 00:50:32.920
that gets cut and man and Moseley's
on the roster and then he doesn't.

804
00:50:34.039 --> 00:50:36.800
You know, something like that happens
like it has the past two years.

805
00:50:36.880 --> 00:50:39.159
Well, again, he's not gonna
start the season. He's gonna start the

806
00:50:39.159 --> 00:50:44.639
season on my rs. Just leave
him there. Sign him when he's ready.

807
00:50:44.719 --> 00:50:46.239
I just just makes this. I
don't understand being upset about this at

808
00:50:46.280 --> 00:50:50.639
all whatsoever. There's such a low
risk and then there's the upside to it.

809
00:50:51.039 --> 00:50:52.760
It makes zero sense to be upset
about this guy. I really don't.

810
00:50:53.079 --> 00:50:58.199
It's not stopping you from doing anything. It's really not especially you have

811
00:50:58.400 --> 00:51:00.920
like the whole like free agency has
him get to hit, and then you

812
00:51:01.039 --> 00:51:04.960
have the draft. And I'm not
saying I want to rely on a rookie

813
00:51:05.039 --> 00:51:07.599
to hold down cbe one. I
don't think that's what Brad Holmes wants to

814
00:51:07.639 --> 00:51:08.719
do either. He quite Blake told
us like, hey, we're going to

815
00:51:09.000 --> 00:51:14.320
address the needs through free agency.
This is not stopping you for doing that.

816
00:51:15.039 --> 00:51:16.199
I just I guess that's the part
I don't understand. And if you

817
00:51:16.239 --> 00:51:19.440
want to say, Okay, well
we were starting starring Thomas, Okay,

818
00:51:19.920 --> 00:51:22.239
what is starling? I meant started
seven games for Arizona last year. It's

819
00:51:22.239 --> 00:51:27.239
just better than three snaps played in
the season. But guess what was taking

820
00:51:27.239 --> 00:51:29.960
that roster spot. Starring Thomas didn't
make the team. It's not that he's

821
00:51:30.000 --> 00:51:32.400
a star, like starling Thomas coming. I did like starling Thomas, but

822
00:51:32.599 --> 00:51:37.119
like this, that's decision they made. It's not like starring Thomas is star.

823
00:51:37.280 --> 00:51:38.119
It's just a guy I would like
to have on the team as a

824
00:51:38.239 --> 00:51:40.679
versatil piece and a guy who's killing
on the special teams. Yeah, we'll

825
00:51:40.760 --> 00:51:44.960
just we'll just figure it out.
I mean, we'll see. I just

826
00:51:45.039 --> 00:51:49.440
have no faith in him being anything
for the Detroit Lions at all. That's

827
00:51:49.480 --> 00:51:51.599
fine, and I think it's just
a waste of space on the roster.

828
00:51:51.880 --> 00:51:53.719
No, that was kind of mean. That's not a mean saying waste of

829
00:51:53.760 --> 00:51:58.840
space, but yeah, no,
but I have no faith in him being

830
00:51:58.880 --> 00:52:01.199
a contributing factor in any means for
the Detroit Lions at all. I think

831
00:52:01.280 --> 00:52:05.559
you're right to point out that it's
more so the spot than the money,

832
00:52:05.800 --> 00:52:08.280
because obviously a minimum is a minimum. So like to me, I'm with

833
00:52:08.400 --> 00:52:13.559
Spencer and kind of like the roster
spot actually mattering to me more than the

834
00:52:13.719 --> 00:52:15.920
money. And that's where and that's
where the risk, I guess would be.

835
00:52:16.079 --> 00:52:20.000
I know you can obviously cut a
minimum guy, no problem, but

836
00:52:21.039 --> 00:52:23.519
you know this is a team that
again, if you're compete for a super

837
00:52:23.519 --> 00:52:28.360
Bowl and you're building a team specifically
the way Brad Holmes and Dan Campbell are

838
00:52:28.480 --> 00:52:32.679
with depth mattering, then every roster
spot matters because you are not you know,

839
00:52:32.840 --> 00:52:37.440
you're not doing a team where it's
like where it's like we are signing

840
00:52:37.760 --> 00:52:42.159
twenty four elite guys and then we
just pray to God that they stay healthy.

841
00:52:42.280 --> 00:52:45.079
That's not what this regime is.
This regime is is every single man

842
00:52:45.159 --> 00:52:49.280
on this team mattering, and so
these roster spots, you do got to

843
00:52:49.320 --> 00:52:52.079
look at them. Steven Gilmore last
year took a roster to eat your lines.

844
00:52:52.079 --> 00:52:54.360
Do you guys remember been playing a
single snap? No, would have

845
00:52:54.519 --> 00:52:58.079
loved to see him on the side. Do you remember his contributing factors?

846
00:52:58.159 --> 00:53:01.159
Let's see, did he play the
special team? I don't know if he

847
00:53:01.199 --> 00:53:05.039
played. If he played on special
teams, that's more than what Emanuel Mosley

848
00:53:05.079 --> 00:53:08.039
did for the Detroit Lions. Chase
Lucas and he definitely plays. He played

849
00:53:08.079 --> 00:53:14.519
special and that's more than taking spot
for no reason. How about that Martin

850
00:53:14.760 --> 00:53:17.079
number number, your third not your
third overall pick, but your third round

851
00:53:17.119 --> 00:53:21.800
pick, taking a roster spot for
no weekend just to be inactive. He

852
00:53:21.880 --> 00:53:23.880
played more snaps than Emmanuel Mosley.
That's a fine got hurt, so did

853
00:53:23.920 --> 00:53:28.000
bugs. You can't expect it to
happen, but that those are two I

854
00:53:28.039 --> 00:53:30.159
mean bugs. Did he flip and
flop throughout the practice squad and why end

855
00:53:30.239 --> 00:53:34.480
up like just losing No, I
think no. Bugs actually maintained his roster

856
00:53:34.519 --> 00:53:37.039
spot too, But those are roster
spots from guys that are healthy and not

857
00:53:37.159 --> 00:53:40.440
play I'm not I'm not crying over
that either, Like I think we're just

858
00:53:42.280 --> 00:53:45.599
picking up things to have an argument
here first, just like realizing what it

859
00:53:45.679 --> 00:53:51.800
is. It's a low risk,
high reward, only had a roster spot

860
00:53:51.840 --> 00:53:54.079
for three games, so I don't
even know if that counts. That's just

861
00:53:54.159 --> 00:53:59.400
like a practice squad guy. Yeah, Rodery Martin, same situation, practice

862
00:53:59.400 --> 00:54:02.440
squad guy. It's just it's a
it's no there's no hurt, there's no

863
00:54:02.639 --> 00:54:06.079
negative to it. I'm looking at
this guy even know was on the team.

864
00:54:06.159 --> 00:54:08.480
Mitchell a guaude, there's no way. Probably a practice quest. I

865
00:54:08.519 --> 00:54:12.360
think. I think it's a future
contract that was signed. I'm looking at

866
00:54:12.440 --> 00:54:15.840
right now. This is like not
last year's depth art. But either way,

867
00:54:15.960 --> 00:54:17.400
it's it's not it's not really hurting
me. It's not hurting us enough

868
00:54:17.400 --> 00:54:20.440
for it to be throwing the fits
over. You can still go get your

869
00:54:20.519 --> 00:54:22.639
CB one or it may end up
being CB two. However you may look

870
00:54:22.679 --> 00:54:24.880
at it. This isn't stopping you
from doing that. It's just giving you

871
00:54:25.000 --> 00:54:28.880
depth that when it comes down to
these big games, when he's finally is

872
00:54:28.960 --> 00:54:34.239
healthy hopefully can stay healthy. You's
it's a big I'm not putting my faith

873
00:54:34.320 --> 00:54:39.320
into Emmanuel Moseley in It's fine,
but you're also not wasting too much of

874
00:54:39.400 --> 00:54:44.159
anything to have them there. Like
it's just I don't know, it's just

875
00:54:44.840 --> 00:54:49.199
is a silly argument to me.
Uh Darius Williams though, for filling roster

876
00:54:49.280 --> 00:54:52.760
spots at the cornerback spots specifically,
I'm done. Yes, a little bit

877
00:54:52.840 --> 00:54:57.000
undersized, but he does play that
outside cornerback spot. Was second in the

878
00:54:57.079 --> 00:55:00.000
league last year at past deflections had
foreignerceptions on off of that, I think

879
00:55:00.039 --> 00:55:04.199
it's sixteen past deflections a previous year. I mean, this is a guy

880
00:55:04.320 --> 00:55:07.360
that balls out, maybe undersize.
The only thing. There's three things I

881
00:55:07.360 --> 00:55:12.199
can see where he doesn't end up
in the Detroit Lianes roster. One,

882
00:55:13.760 --> 00:55:16.239
he just get we just get outbitted
for him. Money money, money matters,

883
00:55:16.440 --> 00:55:20.360
and obviously we know Brad Holmes.
We got Emmanuel Moseley, so we

884
00:55:20.400 --> 00:55:25.400
don't need Number two is probably the
biggest one for me. It's just the

885
00:55:27.119 --> 00:55:30.559
I don't know if he fits the
scheme of what AG likes to do well.

886
00:55:30.559 --> 00:55:32.239
Obviously know age he's been very vocal
about wanting to play that man coverage.

887
00:55:34.320 --> 00:55:37.719
Number three actually thrown there. Two
is Brad Holmes type of cornerback,

888
00:55:37.760 --> 00:55:39.760
Like obviously he's take another chance on
Manuel Moseley. You look at the history

889
00:55:39.800 --> 00:55:44.800
of guys he signed, it's been
those longer like the longer, rangier guys,

890
00:55:44.880 --> 00:55:47.519
Emmanuel Moseley. I guess Cam Sun's
at five to eleven two. I

891
00:55:47.559 --> 00:55:51.440
think Mike he is probably the smaller, the smallest guy he signed beforehand.

892
00:55:51.639 --> 00:55:54.039
Like Brad Holmes seems to like these
longer guys. AG likes the bigger guys

893
00:55:54.039 --> 00:55:57.559
too because he wants to play that
main coverage. That'd be the only mix

894
00:55:57.639 --> 00:56:00.000
up for me. But I guess
to Darius Williams, this guy balls.

895
00:56:00.159 --> 00:56:02.480
This is a guy. Yeah,
like you said, he's a small guy.

896
00:56:02.519 --> 00:56:06.159
He's five to nine. Last year
was the first year he moved from

897
00:56:06.159 --> 00:56:09.159
that nickel spot to outside cornerback.
He felt very comfortable playing in that spot

898
00:56:09.280 --> 00:56:12.800
in camp and going forward. He
had a great season. He had a

899
00:56:12.840 --> 00:56:15.400
great season. He was a top
I think ten ranked corner after Week fourteen

900
00:56:15.519 --> 00:56:19.400
in the NFL, where he was
not allowing much. He only allowed like

901
00:56:19.480 --> 00:56:22.800
five catches for forty two yards and
had about five pass breakups from Week fourteen

902
00:56:22.880 --> 00:56:25.920
on. So this is a guy
who plays well on the outside in the

903
00:56:27.000 --> 00:56:30.079
limited time that he's done so in
the NFL. Like I said, last

904
00:56:30.159 --> 00:56:31.760
year was the first time they kind
of moved him outside, and he said,

905
00:56:31.760 --> 00:56:34.880
I like being on an island.
I like doing that. I like

906
00:56:35.000 --> 00:56:37.159
going out there. So we'll see. I don't know if this is a

907
00:56:37.199 --> 00:56:39.679
Brad Holmes move. I don't know
if he's had enough injuries in his career

908
00:56:39.719 --> 00:56:45.599
to be notunched. But this is
a guy who's proven last year that he

909
00:56:45.679 --> 00:56:50.199
can be an effective outside cornerback.
We talked about you talked about adding or

910
00:56:50.320 --> 00:56:53.519
defensive passing game coordinator for the Jacksonville
Jaguars, So this is a guy he's

911
00:56:53.559 --> 00:56:58.920
familiar with as your new cornerbacks coach. Is this move that Brad Holmes would

912
00:56:58.920 --> 00:57:00.159
make? Is this move of some
he brings in. Time will tell,

913
00:57:00.280 --> 00:57:02.960
But I wouldn't be mad if they
went out there and got him proving.

914
00:57:04.159 --> 00:57:06.880
He proved last year that he can
do it. He proved last year that

915
00:57:07.039 --> 00:57:09.000
he can be on an island out
there. And it's not like the Jags

916
00:57:09.039 --> 00:57:13.199
had an elite pass rush last year. I mean, they had Josh Allen,

917
00:57:13.599 --> 00:57:16.159
who's pretty he's pretty damn good.
But it's I mean, when you

918
00:57:16.280 --> 00:57:20.119
look at what the Lions can do
on pass rush, I think it's pretty

919
00:57:20.159 --> 00:57:22.039
similar to what the Jags did last
year. So I don't think there's too

920
00:57:22.119 --> 00:57:27.440
much of a drop off going from
that. But this year, coming into

921
00:57:27.480 --> 00:57:30.079
this year, what I expect the
Lions to be is at the very least

922
00:57:30.119 --> 00:57:32.199
what the Jags were last year,
with a new defensive line coach, hopefully

923
00:57:32.239 --> 00:57:36.719
adding another piece on that defensive line, and Hutchinson coming into his own.

924
00:57:37.000 --> 00:57:38.800
So we'll see. But no,
I wouldn't be mad at that. He's

925
00:57:38.800 --> 00:57:52.400
a little small for my liking,
pause but I like him junks, But

926
00:57:52.800 --> 00:57:54.000
you know, five nine is a
little small for an outside corner. But

927
00:57:54.119 --> 00:57:57.760
he proved that he can do it
last year. So remember, uh,

928
00:57:58.519 --> 00:58:01.000
Brent Grimes. I think he was
played like Miami Dolphins. I don't forget

929
00:58:01.000 --> 00:58:06.280
he jumped up fight and I was
like, goddamn. I mean, listen

930
00:58:06.320 --> 00:58:07.800
to friend Grimes at a insanity run. For sure, I think, well,

931
00:58:07.840 --> 00:58:12.159
he's drafted like twenty eighteen, you
only allowed like fifty five percent completion.

932
00:58:12.320 --> 00:58:15.199
I mean, I'm again, I
think this is a guy I don't

933
00:58:15.199 --> 00:58:17.239
know how much to be paid,
but may you grab him and still grab

934
00:58:17.360 --> 00:58:22.960
somebody else in the draft? Like
I was not like a depth and that's

935
00:58:22.960 --> 00:58:25.159
what Brad. That's so exact word
that Brad used. Brennan did not great

936
00:58:25.239 --> 00:58:32.039
size. No, he does not
have great size. But it's not about

937
00:58:32.079 --> 00:58:36.280
the size of the dog in the
fight. It's about the side of the

938
00:58:36.360 --> 00:58:39.360
fight and the dog. So we'll
see he's got small size. His Danny

939
00:58:39.400 --> 00:58:43.760
gets. Yeah, he's a small
guy. He's five to nine. So

940
00:58:44.599 --> 00:58:47.079
again, I don't you You pointed
out that Brad does like those longer,

941
00:58:47.199 --> 00:58:52.480
rangier corners, and I like big
cornerbacks as well. So but he's proven

942
00:58:52.519 --> 00:58:54.280
that he can play outside in the
NFL. I think everyone does really right.

943
00:58:54.320 --> 00:58:58.000
If you're looking for somebody almost at
any position for football, it's like

944
00:58:58.000 --> 00:58:59.440
if it's a big guy, you're
like, oh, yeah, I guy,

945
00:58:59.599 --> 00:59:01.719
you know it's first taken you played
football in high school and even though

946
00:59:01.760 --> 00:59:04.920
college you stepped off the bus or
the team stepped off the bus. The

947
00:59:04.920 --> 00:59:07.920
first thing you're doing is sizing them
boys up, Like I got Terrence kind

948
00:59:07.920 --> 00:59:12.199
of big six four four hundred and
fifty pounds. That's a big boy.

949
00:59:12.440 --> 00:59:15.159
Insanely you couldn't move, but that's
fucking four hundred and fifty pounds. Oh

950
00:59:15.199 --> 00:59:17.719
yeah, dude, he was.
Actually we had a gully that too.

951
00:59:17.840 --> 00:59:21.639
Art shout the art. We had
to go to break. Talk about playing

952
00:59:21.639 --> 00:59:22.559
fittis we get back, We'll get
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984
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of what I got Twitter going today, was Darius Williams, And I know

985
01:01:47.400 --> 01:01:51.360
we kind of went half that segment
a little bit of tangent from the previous

986
01:01:51.440 --> 01:01:52.800
one, and I guess we're gona
do the same here. But I want

987
01:01:52.840 --> 01:01:54.440
to give Nick a chance to be
on this, when you get Chris a

988
01:01:54.519 --> 01:01:57.400
chance to be on this, and
maybe you guys want to call on and

989
01:01:57.480 --> 01:02:00.239
reach them your comments too. How
would you feel about Darius Williams being a

990
01:02:00.320 --> 01:02:06.360
man? You know what, I
think Williams gets this startering role. Yeah,

991
01:02:06.440 --> 01:02:09.119
I think Williams would be the starter
immediately. I mean talk about the

992
01:02:09.440 --> 01:02:15.800
epitome of production thirty five passes defended
the last two seasons. I mean,

993
01:02:15.960 --> 01:02:19.559
yeah, he's an instant upgrade of
what we had and I think he's better

994
01:02:19.679 --> 01:02:22.559
than Sutton, so it immediately moves
him to that cornerback too. Slot.

995
01:02:22.000 --> 01:02:27.280
Maybe it's a little scary going up
against guys like Jefferson, maybe a guy

996
01:02:27.440 --> 01:02:31.920
like I'm blanking on Watson from Green
Bay and Dj Moore. You know,

997
01:02:32.039 --> 01:02:37.280
maybe that scares you being a little
bit smaller of a cornerback. But I

998
01:02:37.360 --> 01:02:40.000
would love this signing. This is
the type of guy that this team needs,

999
01:02:40.960 --> 01:02:44.320
and like a guy like Fuller.
You know, if we are going

1000
01:02:44.400 --> 01:02:47.000
to go depth and not that absolute
star, let's bring in a couple of

1001
01:02:47.079 --> 01:02:50.960
these guys and you know, have
a little rotation going. That's what I

1002
01:02:51.079 --> 01:02:53.880
think. I would absolutely love this
ceiling, this signing of Darius Williams.

1003
01:02:53.960 --> 01:03:00.000
Chris, where you at? I
mean, look, after a I'm good

1004
01:03:00.039 --> 01:03:05.000
with it, but I'm at the
mindset of like I'm sorry, I just

1005
01:03:05.159 --> 01:03:07.840
I want to swing for the fences. I want to get that corner easing

1006
01:03:07.920 --> 01:03:10.880
that We're on the phone after the
show show yesterday and I was talking about

1007
01:03:10.960 --> 01:03:19.519
you hang out, No, you
hang up your stomach so you can't wait

1008
01:03:19.880 --> 01:03:23.599
on draft night, drift? Come
on, how do we get a lot

1009
01:03:23.639 --> 01:03:32.000
of that's crazy we got as a
drop. But no, the way,

1010
01:03:32.320 --> 01:03:37.239
the way, the place I'm at
with this is that I don't see it

1011
01:03:37.599 --> 01:03:42.199
as a need necessarily. I know
that Brad Holmes can find that bargain bin

1012
01:03:42.280 --> 01:03:45.079
and that seems like what we're going
to be going for here. But I've

1013
01:03:45.199 --> 01:03:47.920
just always had it. I've just
always had a thing for elite corners and

1014
01:03:49.239 --> 01:03:52.400
I love I'd love for us to
either get one that you know, fills

1015
01:03:52.440 --> 01:03:57.320
the gap this year and draft one
that we believe we can groom into an

1016
01:03:57.360 --> 01:04:01.239
eventual one or two on this team. But you gotta start to revamp this

1017
01:04:01.360 --> 01:04:04.360
cornerback room for the long run,
right, like you gotta you gotta make

1018
01:04:04.440 --> 01:04:08.920
some changes here. Yeah. I'm
another thing too with this guy you want

1019
01:04:08.920 --> 01:04:11.800
to talk about having, like Brad
Holmes speaking about like they want to know

1020
01:04:11.920 --> 01:04:14.440
these people, they want to like
have they want to be comfortable paying these

1021
01:04:14.480 --> 01:04:17.559
people dinner with them. Yeah,
whatever you said, I could even hear

1022
01:04:17.599 --> 01:04:20.119
that. Yeah, But in twenty
eighteen, this guy's breaking to the NFL

1023
01:04:21.400 --> 01:04:26.760
as an undrafted free agent with Brad
Holmes and reagnuew with with the Rams,

1024
01:04:27.199 --> 01:04:29.760
and then obviously you have the Shaye
Townsend two. So I mean it's definitely

1025
01:04:29.840 --> 01:04:32.840
there. Again. My only question
really is like the fit of schematically is

1026
01:04:32.920 --> 01:04:36.679
like, is Age you gonna just
finally go over to the full time zone

1027
01:04:38.039 --> 01:04:41.599
or at least embrace going zones because
I don't know we had the pieces to

1028
01:04:41.719 --> 01:04:44.599
do man, like he finally gonna
go over to the Duck Center. To

1029
01:04:44.679 --> 01:04:49.039
be honest with you, Bro,
I've been defending Glenn but that's a little

1030
01:04:49.039 --> 01:04:53.039
gripe. But I might have start
having with him too. I get your

1031
01:04:53.079 --> 01:04:57.360
philosophy is man coverage, I get
it. I get you done tremendous things

1032
01:04:57.360 --> 01:05:00.679
in New Orleans like as that too
as a secondary coach, but it's not

1033
01:05:00.880 --> 01:05:03.199
working here and we don't have the
pieces to do that here. Yeah,

1034
01:05:03.599 --> 01:05:06.920
concede do what Ben Johnson did.
And I'm not saying Ben Johnson had to

1035
01:05:06.960 --> 01:05:10.920
go up against anything because he kind
of started with Jared Goffin had that mind

1036
01:05:11.000 --> 01:05:14.239
set like, hey, okay,
like I can't do sweet shit with Jared

1037
01:05:14.280 --> 01:05:15.880
goff all the time. I'm gonna
have to draw some sick. I'm gonna

1038
01:05:15.880 --> 01:05:20.280
have to make the team offense,
like you work with what you got.

1039
01:05:20.440 --> 01:05:23.239
What's that saying that I say is
like, hey, you've got a great

1040
01:05:23.239 --> 01:05:27.039
player but doesn't fit your scheme.
Change the scheme. Yeah, I'm on

1041
01:05:27.159 --> 01:05:29.719
AG's as a little bit with this
one too. Is like Cam Sawton,

1042
01:05:29.760 --> 01:05:31.360
Okay, you have this guy's available
to you, guy that previously coached them,

1043
01:05:31.480 --> 01:05:33.599
previous relationship, Brad Holmes. He's
gonna be thirty one by the time

1044
01:05:33.679 --> 01:05:36.199
start of the season two of Donald
that changed anybody's like opinion on him or

1045
01:05:36.360 --> 01:05:40.559
probably the price tag. But like, let's fucking go to a full time

1046
01:05:40.679 --> 01:05:45.000
zone scheme. If that's what we're
working with at this point, I don't

1047
01:05:45.000 --> 01:05:47.119
hate it, but you have the
amazing talent of Emmanuel Moseley, so you

1048
01:05:47.239 --> 01:05:50.639
don't need to do that. No, but I'd rather them stick at the

1049
01:05:50.639 --> 01:05:54.400
scheme they're at. I'd rather them
do that and then go out there and

1050
01:05:54.519 --> 01:05:58.360
get somebody that fits that scheme because
none of the cornerbacks you have right now,

1051
01:05:58.440 --> 01:06:01.519
are worth adapting your scheme over Like
you said, no, that's fair.

1052
01:06:01.639 --> 01:06:04.559
You made the argument if you have
a great player and the scheme doesn't

1053
01:06:04.599 --> 01:06:08.199
fit, you change the scheme.
You don't have a great player, yeah,

1054
01:06:08.239 --> 01:06:11.639
at cornerback right now, So you
don't change the scheme to adapt to

1055
01:06:12.199 --> 01:06:15.840
Kendall Wildor and Jerry Jacobs, Like
you go out and you get a better

1056
01:06:15.920 --> 01:06:19.400
player. Though, and I'm fully
with you, like, we don't have

1057
01:06:19.440 --> 01:06:23.079
that one player that you just changed
the scheme for that it makes sense.

1058
01:06:23.199 --> 01:06:26.440
I remember being a little back and
forth a little bit with Aiden Hodgson wanting

1059
01:06:26.440 --> 01:06:28.960
to stand up versus his hand in
the dirt with ag and his rookie year.

1060
01:06:29.199 --> 01:06:32.000
But if you know it, it's
more than just having like one great

1061
01:06:32.000 --> 01:06:35.000
player to change that scheme. It's
also like, hey, I don't have

1062
01:06:35.079 --> 01:06:38.760
the fucking players to run the scheme
I want to run. How about I

1063
01:06:38.800 --> 01:06:41.920
put them in the best position to
succeed. It's like if I have a

1064
01:06:42.000 --> 01:06:46.599
freaking But also what zone is just
so you can't consistently play zone in the

1065
01:06:46.719 --> 01:06:50.480
NFL. You can't. You'll get
picked apart by That's what they're doing nowadays.

1066
01:06:50.519 --> 01:06:53.519
Though. That's why that's how you
got to play keep in front of

1067
01:06:53.599 --> 01:06:56.880
you and no, everyone's everyone's his
zone coverage. That's how we That's how

1068
01:06:56.920 --> 01:07:00.119
you defended each alliance because we eat
in the middle of a field. The

1069
01:07:00.280 --> 01:07:03.400
zone coverage. Yeah, but nobody's
defended the Detroit Lions do well, except

1070
01:07:05.119 --> 01:07:09.519
and that was because they were in
Golf's face every second. So I don't

1071
01:07:09.519 --> 01:07:13.119
think it's the zone or the man
that is how you defend the Detroit Lions.

1072
01:07:13.400 --> 01:07:16.880
I think defending the Detroit Lions is
attacking them and getting to Jared Goff.

1073
01:07:17.199 --> 01:07:19.800
Well, I don't know, because
that's that's the plan they had against

1074
01:07:19.840 --> 01:07:23.960
the Buccaneers too. But Golf just
he knows where's going to be, so

1075
01:07:24.000 --> 01:07:25.880
he gets the ball to him.
Yeah, and I think the blitzer,

1076
01:07:25.960 --> 01:07:29.519
the blitz, it's dead narrative at
this point because he's just so intuitive,

1077
01:07:29.599 --> 01:07:30.639
like with what they got going on
the offense side of the ball, that

1078
01:07:30.679 --> 01:07:32.719
he knows where everyone's going to be. But it don't matter if that ball

1079
01:07:32.800 --> 01:07:35.320
is fucking flopping over there. He
just know somebody's gonna be there to catch

1080
01:07:35.320 --> 01:07:39.239
it. You have to if you're
going to play zone, you have to

1081
01:07:40.760 --> 01:07:45.239
bracket your zone with an elite pass
rush because if you have games like the

1082
01:07:45.320 --> 01:07:48.239
Detroit Lions, where quarterbacks are sitting
back there with four seconds to throw the

1083
01:07:48.320 --> 01:07:51.400
ball and you're sitting in zone coverage, that is not going to work.

1084
01:07:51.440 --> 01:07:55.800
I don't necessarily agree. I like
pass rush is more. I guess you'd

1085
01:07:55.840 --> 01:07:58.280
want that more in a man cover
situation because you don't want you guys to

1086
01:07:58.280 --> 01:08:00.960
get beat at the certain amount of
time we watched it here in Detroit.

1087
01:08:00.480 --> 01:08:02.960
Guys get beat if you're not gonna
get some guys guys. Yeah, either

1088
01:08:03.000 --> 01:08:06.719
way, you're facing world class athletes
the wide receiver position. Also, guys

1089
01:08:06.719 --> 01:08:10.400
will find the hole in the zone. If I guess either way, you

1090
01:08:10.519 --> 01:08:13.159
need a good pass rush. Yeah, I don't think. I don't know,

1091
01:08:13.320 --> 01:08:15.639
man, I'm just saying to to
a g I don't like. I

1092
01:08:15.679 --> 01:08:17.640
don't like just playing zone at all
like all times. I don't think that's

1093
01:08:17.640 --> 01:08:19.439
a good idea. Well, no, I'm obviously gonna mix it up.

1094
01:08:19.479 --> 01:08:21.479
You mix up everything throughout the game. But I'm just saying, if you

1095
01:08:21.520 --> 01:08:25.800
don't have the ingredients to cook up
what you want to make something different,

1096
01:08:25.920 --> 01:08:30.319
go get the ingredient. But we
we fail to do that three years now.

1097
01:08:30.239 --> 01:08:33.760
I mean, I guess son who
will send it to the grocery store

1098
01:08:38.239 --> 01:08:44.079
shop and he works the offense and
go get that picking fresh fruit. Go

1099
01:08:44.239 --> 01:08:47.239
get the ingredient in in in your
secondary. He's not going to bring on

1100
01:08:47.319 --> 01:08:49.920
the main course. Like I mean, I don't know what express you want

1101
01:08:49.960 --> 01:08:56.000
to use, but it's like you
don't want to se sexist reference or should

1102
01:08:56.039 --> 01:09:00.239
not go there. Do it absolutely
all right. If I'm a no hard

1103
01:09:00.439 --> 01:09:03.359
business and I have freaking I won't
go the way it How about do this.

1104
01:09:03.640 --> 01:09:10.359
I'm on over construction and I hired
Nick and I hire Spencer. I'm

1105
01:09:10.399 --> 01:09:13.359
not gonna go ship Nick. I'm
carrying way more rocks than you. You

1106
01:09:13.439 --> 01:09:16.199
know what I'm saying, working buddy, yeah, mix work in front of

1107
01:09:16.239 --> 01:09:19.680
house. Yeah, I'm back a
house exactly. Nick's pushing paper, You're

1108
01:09:19.720 --> 01:09:24.520
pushing fucking paper, boulders. But
that's just like that's I'm not you know

1109
01:09:24.640 --> 01:09:26.600
if that's like, I don't know, that's that's how I see it.

1110
01:09:26.640 --> 01:09:33.439
Though. The boulder feels conflicted about
fighting a small blind girls. Have you

1111
01:09:33.479 --> 01:09:39.119
guys have never seen me squat man, Give me some credit, but I'm

1112
01:09:39.119 --> 01:09:44.720
going to say it was gonna be
sexiest. But I'm just because I couldn't

1113
01:09:44.720 --> 01:09:46.760
be sexist. I couldn't. I
can just do that. No, that's

1114
01:09:46.760 --> 01:09:48.520
just how I look at it.
Man, I'm not gonna go ask Nick

1115
01:09:48.600 --> 01:09:54.079
to go, you know, push
three hundred pounds worth of fucking rocks versus

1116
01:09:54.279 --> 01:09:59.039
if I have a Spencer tel player, I could push three hundred pounds of

1117
01:09:59.119 --> 01:10:01.479
rocks and I could fucking sorts some
papers. I'm better with. Uh,

1118
01:10:02.199 --> 01:10:09.000
I'm more of a I'm more of
a people person. In the back you

1119
01:10:09.119 --> 01:10:11.399
put them on the back, Yeah, exactly, back of the house,

1120
01:10:11.439 --> 01:10:14.479
front of house. I've done at
all. Ran a restaurant. I did

1121
01:10:14.760 --> 01:10:16.239
have to yell at a couple old
people, but you guys know how I

1122
01:10:16.279 --> 01:10:21.119
feel about old people. We gotta
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1123
01:10:21.119 --> 01:10:27.079
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1124
01:10:27.159 --> 01:10:30.640
fun, we're arguing, we're talking
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1125
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01:12:57.960 --> 01:13:01.479
the Wing Wheeled Podcast, and I
guess one get understanding from Uspinny. I

1153
01:13:01.680 --> 01:13:06.600
know who delmarkt is, I know
del Markin's stats, but I'm not that

1154
01:13:08.960 --> 01:13:11.760
well versus hockey to know what he
brings the team and what we're gonna be

1155
01:13:11.800 --> 01:13:17.119
missing in his absence in this this
next two weeks without him, You're gonna

1156
01:13:17.119 --> 01:13:20.399
be missing your captain. You're gonna
be missing a guy who's on a point

1157
01:13:20.439 --> 01:13:24.119
of game pace. You're gonna be
missing one of the most important players on

1158
01:13:24.159 --> 01:13:27.159
your roster, a guy who plays
PK, a guy who's who's on the

1159
01:13:27.239 --> 01:13:30.319
power play, one, one of
your best faceoff guys, the guy who

1160
01:13:30.800 --> 01:13:35.560
stirs the drink. Like. It
is not a small loss when you lose

1161
01:13:35.600 --> 01:13:39.159
a guy like Dylan Larkin. He
does a lot for this team. He

1162
01:13:39.359 --> 01:13:42.680
means a lot to the guys on
this squad. Like. It's not something

1163
01:13:43.039 --> 01:13:46.000
that you can easily replace. So
yeah, it's it's not gonna be fun

1164
01:13:46.039 --> 01:13:49.119
playing without Dylan Larkin for a couple
of weeks. We need him to rest

1165
01:13:49.199 --> 01:13:51.000
up, we need him to get
healthy, and we need him to come

1166
01:13:51.039 --> 01:13:55.399
back ready to go because he is
one of the best players on this team

1167
01:13:55.439 --> 01:13:58.880
for a reason. He is almost
at a point per game, And man,

1168
01:13:58.960 --> 01:14:01.520
it sucks sucks not having Dylan Larkin
in the lineup when you're trying to

1169
01:14:01.560 --> 01:14:04.079
fend off some of the teams in
the East for that first wildcard spot.

1170
01:14:04.159 --> 01:14:06.479
But I think the Boys to be
able to get it done. I think

1171
01:14:06.520 --> 01:14:09.840
we've got a lot of talented players
on this roster. I think they'll be

1172
01:14:09.880 --> 01:14:14.279
able to overcome this setback. We've
got a stretch of games where in six

1173
01:14:14.399 --> 01:14:17.039
games you need to get eight points
at the very least. So what is

1174
01:14:17.079 --> 01:14:21.640
the missing most is like the passing, the shoot. Larkin is an all

1175
01:14:21.680 --> 01:14:26.319
around player. He does everything pretty
well, and so you're gonna you're gonna

1176
01:14:26.319 --> 01:14:30.439
miss him a lot in the faceoff
zone because him and Confer had been money

1177
01:14:30.600 --> 01:14:33.920
this year, you know, at
the dot. So you're gonna need somebody

1178
01:14:34.000 --> 01:14:39.760
to step up, whether that is
Volano or or whoever. Andrew Kopp steps

1179
01:14:39.840 --> 01:14:43.520
up at the dot. But having
him as your power play one center was

1180
01:14:43.640 --> 01:14:45.359
impressive because he got He won a
lot of those face offs. He won

1181
01:14:45.399 --> 01:14:51.119
a lot of things that you need
and that are extremely important. But you

1182
01:14:51.359 --> 01:14:55.560
guys to step up flat out when
you lose your captain, when you lose

1183
01:14:55.600 --> 01:14:58.960
a point per game. Guy,
it's gonna be hard to overcome that,

1184
01:14:59.119 --> 01:15:00.880
but you're gonna have to. You're
gonna have to for at least two weeks.

1185
01:15:01.359 --> 01:15:05.039
Nick, I guess the biggest thing
for me is how does this team

1186
01:15:05.199 --> 01:15:11.039
respond this time? Because last time
when he got hurt against Ottawa on the

1187
01:15:11.119 --> 01:15:14.439
Whome ice, after that we struggled. There's no doubt about it. I

1188
01:15:14.479 --> 01:15:17.760
mean, Patrick Kane was just coming
in. This team was not as you

1189
01:15:17.800 --> 01:15:20.000
know, kind of rolling as they
are now. I mean, obviously we're

1190
01:15:20.039 --> 01:15:24.720
coming off two straight l's. Hopefully
we can get it back against Colorado,

1191
01:15:24.800 --> 01:15:28.399
but it's looking like three straight l's
here, especially on their home ice.

1192
01:15:28.479 --> 01:15:31.640
So it's gonna be hard. But
it's how do you respond? Playoff teams

1193
01:15:31.680 --> 01:15:35.800
respond. We've seen teams fumble and
struggle. I mean we saw it last

1194
01:15:36.079 --> 01:15:41.000
year. We went into Ottawa,
lost two massive games, and then this

1195
01:15:41.119 --> 01:15:45.000
team crumbled down the stretch and we
ended up selling. I do not want

1196
01:15:45.000 --> 01:15:47.039
to see this team sell at all. But I guess I know we're gonna

1197
01:15:47.079 --> 01:15:49.760
have Ryan Hanna on and a little
bit here. I know we're gonna ask

1198
01:15:49.800 --> 01:15:54.000
him all about the trade deadline.
But I do not want to see this

1199
01:15:54.079 --> 01:15:58.960
team sell, unless it's maybe to
bring up some younger guys that they actually

1200
01:15:59.000 --> 01:16:01.319
have faith in for the playoff push. Yeah. I just don't want to

1201
01:16:01.359 --> 01:16:04.840
see this team crumble and fold.
Like earlier in the season, when Dylan

1202
01:16:04.960 --> 01:16:08.880
Larkin was hurt the first time,
just a fan in the Woter Sports,

1203
01:16:08.920 --> 01:16:12.800
she had made a great point some
with the face offs are vital, especially

1204
01:16:13.000 --> 01:16:15.640
on penalty killers and power plays especially. Think about like how great this Detroit

1205
01:16:15.680 --> 01:16:18.640
Revenue team has been on special teams. I mean a lot of their goals

1206
01:16:18.680 --> 01:16:21.600
and you correct me if I'm wrong, have not a lot of them come

1207
01:16:21.680 --> 01:16:25.960
off those those power plays like that
that's where they eat. So it's like,

1208
01:16:26.520 --> 01:16:30.000
damn that actually now I'm thinking about
that way, yeah, because this

1209
01:16:30.239 --> 01:16:33.840
is a top ten special team both
units in the league. That's actually that

1210
01:16:34.039 --> 01:16:40.880
that's that's actually fucking hit me one
hundred percent. That's me say that stuff.

1211
01:16:40.920 --> 01:16:47.600
Yeah, because because yeah, it's
true, man, that that is

1212
01:16:47.680 --> 01:16:50.680
your guy, that that is one
you'll like. Him and JT Conford both

1213
01:16:50.720 --> 01:16:54.720
have been lights out in the dots. So you're gonna need somebody to step

1214
01:16:54.800 --> 01:16:56.920
up until that role because JT is
not gonna be able to do it by

1215
01:16:56.960 --> 01:16:59.800
himself. So who who is it? In your eyes? Spencer? I

1216
01:16:59.880 --> 01:17:02.479
know you talked about, like we've
talked about who's gonna step up in physically

1217
01:17:02.600 --> 01:17:06.640
be in his position his position?
But who are you expecting from this team

1218
01:17:06.840 --> 01:17:13.079
to take the biggest step forward and
really kind of handle the responsibility? Is

1219
01:17:13.119 --> 01:17:16.880
that the veteran Patrick Kane is who
do you see? I think Lucas Raymond

1220
01:17:17.000 --> 01:17:21.880
in the point scoring aspect, not
just directly, you know, at his

1221
01:17:23.039 --> 01:17:26.239
position, I think it's gonna be
Lucas Raymond. He needs to take a

1222
01:17:26.279 --> 01:17:29.680
bigger role Alex to bring it.
Obviously, you're gonna need your guys who

1223
01:17:29.680 --> 01:17:31.880
are stars to be stars and make
up for that. But when you look

1224
01:17:31.920 --> 01:17:35.520
at centers, I think Andrew Copps
the guy that you're gonna need to step

1225
01:17:35.640 --> 01:17:38.800
up. I think Andrew Cops going
to be the guy that you need.

1226
01:17:38.960 --> 01:17:42.520
Like he was a captain on Michigan, he was a guy that's done a

1227
01:17:42.560 --> 01:17:45.640
lot of different things, and he's
had a pretty good NHL career so far.

1228
01:17:45.800 --> 01:17:47.279
But I think he's the guy that's
gonna need to step up and be

1229
01:17:47.760 --> 01:17:55.039
no please, no, no no. If Andrew Cops our guys, he's

1230
01:17:55.119 --> 01:17:57.760
gonna be to step up. Yeah. I mean, great answer in a

1231
01:17:57.880 --> 01:18:00.520
sense that he needs a step up. But we might be in some serious

1232
01:18:00.600 --> 01:18:04.079
trouble if we're depending on Andrew Copp
right now to be that guy that does

1233
01:18:04.199 --> 01:18:08.319
step up. I don't know if
I can see it in Cop. I'm

1234
01:18:08.359 --> 01:18:12.199
not saying step up like scoring points. I'm saying technically being a center as

1235
01:18:12.239 --> 01:18:15.840
a leader, winning face offs.
You need to score points. You need

1236
01:18:15.960 --> 01:18:18.800
your point scores to score points.
You need Alex to brink It to score

1237
01:18:18.880 --> 01:18:23.119
points. You need Patrick Kane,
Lucas Raymond, Robbie Fabrie. You need

1238
01:18:23.199 --> 01:18:26.760
those guys to score points. But
as a guy who is a leader and

1239
01:18:26.840 --> 01:18:29.079
a guy to win face offs,
I think Andrew Copp is a guy who

1240
01:18:29.119 --> 01:18:32.359
needs to step up. Yeah,
I think you're right on him needing to

1241
01:18:32.399 --> 01:18:35.399
step up. I just don't know
if he will step up. I don't

1242
01:18:35.399 --> 01:18:40.760
have faith in Cop personally. I
do like the depth of this whole entire

1243
01:18:40.960 --> 01:18:45.880
lineup to step up. But the
guy that I highlight just specifically is Alex

1244
01:18:45.960 --> 01:18:48.399
to brink It. He needs to
go on that run that he started the

1245
01:18:48.479 --> 01:18:51.560
year off with. I know Larkin
was the guy that was feeding him a

1246
01:18:51.600 --> 01:18:55.880
lot, So maybe Cop can step
up in that role a playmaker to feed

1247
01:18:56.159 --> 01:19:00.560
guys like Alex to brink It.
But he needs to start this extraun of

1248
01:19:00.640 --> 01:19:02.800
games like he started the season when
he had nine goals and I think it

1249
01:19:02.920 --> 01:19:06.119
was seven games to start the year. He needs to get on a hot

1250
01:19:06.159 --> 01:19:11.039
streak like we've seen him do in
the past. If this team wants to

1251
01:19:11.119 --> 01:19:15.600
remain competitive, especially when it comes
to playoff time. Yeah, Rich Baldwin

1252
01:19:15.640 --> 01:19:19.079
with sports Chat, wing's going to
go get a big Russian he posed.

1253
01:19:20.279 --> 01:19:25.560
I mean yeah, Like I said
this, this injury is not going to

1254
01:19:26.439 --> 01:19:30.000
change what Steve Eisman was doing at
the trade deadline. I could promise you

1255
01:19:30.119 --> 01:19:32.560
that he's not going to make a
panic move to go get somebody to replace

1256
01:19:32.640 --> 01:19:36.000
Dillan Larkin for two weeks. That's
not gonna happen. So if he was

1257
01:19:36.079 --> 01:19:40.039
getting a forward, he's still going
to get a forward. If he's getting

1258
01:19:40.039 --> 01:19:42.800
a defenseman, he's still going to
get a defenseman. If he wasn't going

1259
01:19:42.880 --> 01:19:45.920
to do anything, he's still not
gonna do anything. This is not going

1260
01:19:45.000 --> 01:19:48.359
to be something that's Steve Eiseman is
not a guy who panics in the face

1261
01:19:48.359 --> 01:19:53.920
of adversity. Steve Eisman is stone
jawed, iron will. Then this is

1262
01:19:53.960 --> 01:19:56.880
not going to make him flinch.
He's gonna do what he had planned to

1263
01:19:56.960 --> 01:20:01.680
do already. Is another like kind
of dumb but simple answer to this being

1264
01:20:02.079 --> 01:20:05.640
Alex Lin and goal who was who
was on an absolute heater and then the

1265
01:20:05.680 --> 01:20:10.920
last couple of games has some goals
like is it as simple as if he

1266
01:20:11.039 --> 01:20:15.439
can if he can get back to
his high standard, and the Wings can

1267
01:20:15.560 --> 01:20:18.239
get two to three goals in a
game and etch out these one to two

1268
01:20:18.359 --> 01:20:21.920
wins or these two to three wins, like like, that's got to be

1269
01:20:23.000 --> 01:20:25.560
a factor, right, Like,
I mean, the defense needs to play

1270
01:20:25.600 --> 01:20:28.880
better, That's what it is.
I don't think it's on Alex Lion.

1271
01:20:28.960 --> 01:20:31.279
Alex Line has been seeing a lot
of breakaways in the past two games,

1272
01:20:31.319 --> 01:20:35.159
and the Florida Panthers are no slouch
there, one of the top four teams

1273
01:20:35.199 --> 01:20:39.560
in the NHL, so you need
to be aware of them. And against

1274
01:20:39.560 --> 01:20:42.720
the Islanders, he saw a lot
of uneven breaks. The Islanders spent a

1275
01:20:42.760 --> 01:20:45.279
lot of time in the Red Wings
zone, and the defense did him no

1276
01:20:45.399 --> 01:20:47.800
favors. So I think Alex Line
is still Elex Lion. The defense just

1277
01:20:47.880 --> 01:20:50.319
needs to tighten up a little bit. And that's why I've been preaching that

1278
01:20:50.399 --> 01:20:54.640
we go after a top five or
top four d man at the trade deadline,

1279
01:20:54.640 --> 01:20:58.039
and I still hope they go after
some whether it be Chick Ran or

1280
01:20:58.079 --> 01:21:01.319
Hannafin or whoever it is. I'd
like this he's a forward, but I'd

1281
01:21:01.399 --> 01:21:03.960
like to see them go after a
top four d man to tighten up that

1282
01:21:04.119 --> 01:21:11.000
rotation even more than how about guncl
now that no, no, you don't

1283
01:21:11.000 --> 01:21:15.079
need a forward. You got enough
forwards, not like Larkin going down or

1284
01:21:15.600 --> 01:21:17.840
be like I said, that's not
going to Larkin going down for two weeks

1285
01:21:18.159 --> 01:21:23.600
does not change your your motive attack
at the trade deadline. It's two weeks.

1286
01:21:23.760 --> 01:21:26.000
Is not something that you're like,
Okay, I'm gonna go after and

1287
01:21:26.039 --> 01:21:29.800
get a Jake gunzil because Larkin's down
for two weeks, what am I gonna

1288
01:21:29.800 --> 01:21:31.119
do. Like by the time you
get Jake Gunzel in here and get him

1289
01:21:31.119 --> 01:21:34.520
acclimated with the team, Larkin is
gonna be back. So I don't think

1290
01:21:34.600 --> 01:21:42.720
that that is something that sways that. So I'm I'm not worried about them,

1291
01:21:42.880 --> 01:21:45.239
because I talked about the stretch of
games that the Red Wings have coming

1292
01:21:45.319 --> 01:21:48.960
up where in their next six games, four of them are against the Sabers

1293
01:21:49.039 --> 01:21:53.159
and against the Coyotes, And those
are two teams that you should be able

1294
01:21:53.239 --> 01:21:57.439
to beat, you know, minus
one on the puck line, like you

1295
01:21:57.479 --> 01:22:00.840
should be double. You should be
beating those teams by least a goal.

1296
01:22:00.479 --> 01:22:08.199
So I'm not worried about that as
much I think Larkin is. I think

1297
01:22:08.239 --> 01:22:11.119
they'll be fine without him because of
the teams they play in the stretch they

1298
01:22:11.199 --> 01:22:15.800
have and guys like Patrick Kane and
Alex to brink It who are showtime,

1299
01:22:15.960 --> 01:22:17.720
who are big name players. They'll
be able to step up and carry the

1300
01:22:17.760 --> 01:22:23.640
ship until Larkin's the what's the minimum
point threshold you're looking at for this for

1301
01:22:23.760 --> 01:22:27.960
this team over this stretch of without
Larkin, let's sancho that we get back.

1302
01:22:28.039 --> 01:22:30.199
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we're also joined by Ryanhanna from the
Wingo Podcast talk about the Detroit Red Rings

1331
01:24:54.159 --> 01:24:56.399
and the injury to Den Larker for
two weeks. What up, Ryan,

1332
01:24:56.439 --> 01:24:59.960
Thanks for joining. Man, Hi, we're going guys. Thanks you.

1333
01:25:00.640 --> 01:25:01.680
Oh, of course, it's always
a pleasure to do. Let's go at

1334
01:25:01.800 --> 01:25:04.880
good before the injury a little bit
there. How how do you things go

1335
01:25:04.920 --> 01:25:09.279
affect the team? Man? And
then a playoff run or playoff race?

1336
01:25:10.920 --> 01:25:14.600
Yeah, look, there's no it's
never a good thing when you're tapped in

1337
01:25:14.680 --> 01:25:16.359
your best player in your first line
centers. I was playing and simple.

1338
01:25:17.079 --> 01:25:21.520
We've seen it with Detroit before earlier
this season in December when market went out,

1339
01:25:21.600 --> 01:25:25.359
Like, no team gets better when
that kind of player gets injured.

1340
01:25:25.439 --> 01:25:29.319
So Detroit's gonna have to dig deep. The good news is, and we'll

1341
01:25:29.319 --> 01:25:33.960
talk about this their schedule like it's
not easy, but you're playing some teams

1342
01:25:34.000 --> 01:25:39.680
Buffalo twice, Arizona twice in Pittsburgh, like you're playing teams that you should

1343
01:25:39.720 --> 01:25:42.439
beat, Like you want to be
a playoff contender, you should beat them

1344
01:25:42.479 --> 01:25:45.560
even without Lark And so they have
an opportunity, but you know they'll have

1345
01:25:45.680 --> 01:25:47.319
to do it. It's not guaranteed. Yeah, that's how I keep saying,

1346
01:25:47.359 --> 01:25:51.079
Like having the Yoats and the Savers
four times combined in your next six

1347
01:25:51.159 --> 01:25:55.239
games is kind of a blessing.
But who when you look at who you

1348
01:25:55.319 --> 01:25:58.960
think is going to come up to
the big club after the lark And injury,

1349
01:25:59.399 --> 01:26:02.279
there was a bunch questions. Is
it going to be CatSper because he

1350
01:26:02.399 --> 01:26:05.800
wasn't on the Grand Rapids lineup sheet, But it turns out that he was

1351
01:26:05.880 --> 01:26:09.760
just dealing with an injury as well. Who do you think is going to

1352
01:26:09.760 --> 01:26:11.920
be the guy that gets the call
up? He is gonna be Sarnick,

1353
01:26:12.039 --> 01:26:14.840
Is it going to be bergran Who
do you think comes up now that Larkin

1354
01:26:14.960 --> 01:26:18.119
is is out for a couple of
weeks. I think they're going to try

1355
01:26:18.119 --> 01:26:21.199
to rock with their group, Like
Joe Blino is going to slot up and

1356
01:26:21.640 --> 01:26:25.600
play in Larkin's spot at least to
start to see how he does between the

1357
01:26:25.680 --> 01:26:29.960
Brincon and Kane that doesn't work,
you'll probably see a bunch of different mix

1358
01:26:30.239 --> 01:26:34.359
of line combinations to try to find
something that cricks like it's it's hard around

1359
01:26:34.399 --> 01:26:38.159
this time of year to pull a
guy up and ask him to take in

1360
01:26:38.239 --> 01:26:41.640
a big role, even if you
want him in a deposition like it's not.

1361
01:26:42.359 --> 01:26:45.439
You know, Casper's not had the
time in the NHL where he can

1362
01:26:45.520 --> 01:26:48.880
come in and do that. They're
trying for the playoffs and Grand Rap is

1363
01:26:48.920 --> 01:26:53.319
also doing something really important over on
the west side of Michigan as well,

1364
01:26:53.479 --> 01:26:56.880
So I think they're going to try
to roll with their forwards and see this

1365
01:26:57.000 --> 01:27:00.199
through seven games potentially is a long
time. But if they can avoid calling

1366
01:27:00.239 --> 01:27:02.680
someone up, I think that's the
angle Detroit's going to try to take.

1367
01:27:03.119 --> 01:27:09.640
Do you think it changes cbise approach
the deadline at all? No, No,

1368
01:27:09.760 --> 01:27:12.359
I don't think so. And for
the reason that I don't think Steve

1369
01:27:12.439 --> 01:27:15.680
Eisman was in the business anyways of
bringing in you know, rentals, like

1370
01:27:15.760 --> 01:27:19.359
anyone he brought in would either have
to be like a low cost player who

1371
01:27:19.439 --> 01:27:24.000
fits a need for the team,
or you know, a bigger move that

1372
01:27:24.319 --> 01:27:27.119
is, yeah, helpful for this
season, but also looking medium and long

1373
01:27:27.239 --> 01:27:30.119
term, so a player with term
or a player that you can sign with

1374
01:27:30.279 --> 01:27:33.920
term. And you know, Detroit
is a playoff contender this year, but

1375
01:27:33.960 --> 01:27:38.800
they're not a Cup contender, so
it's it's good to get your team into

1376
01:27:38.800 --> 01:27:41.800
the playoffs. I think it's important. I think Eisman's really passionate about that.

1377
01:27:42.199 --> 01:27:45.640
I think that the organization is from
a business side and a competition side.

1378
01:27:45.680 --> 01:27:49.680
But you can't put the cart before
the horse there, that makes sense.

1379
01:27:49.920 --> 01:27:53.319
So if you're going let me ask
you this, if you're going to

1380
01:27:53.760 --> 01:27:58.119
you know, maintain and not make
any moves out as a reaction to this

1381
01:27:58.399 --> 01:28:02.439
move coming at the trade dead,
looking forward to this two week stretch,

1382
01:28:02.479 --> 01:28:06.680
Spencer alluded to the schedule. What's
like the minimum threshold the points you're looking

1383
01:28:06.760 --> 01:28:11.760
at the Wings coming away from to
keep this playoff chase alive and to feel

1384
01:28:12.159 --> 01:28:17.239
comfortable about the wings position. I
think five hundred's fine. Honestly, Like,

1385
01:28:17.399 --> 01:28:20.640
if you lose Dylan Larkin and you
come out of this like these seven

1386
01:28:20.720 --> 01:28:26.439
games with the five hundred points percentage, you know that's completely okay. Detroit

1387
01:28:26.520 --> 01:28:28.840
has the mats in their favor.
With the standings right now, like,

1388
01:28:29.319 --> 01:28:31.680
even with having lost lost two games, they're in the first wild card seed.

1389
01:28:31.720 --> 01:28:34.760
They have games in hand on Tampa
Bay behind them, And yeah,

1390
01:28:34.840 --> 01:28:39.039
the Islanders are making chase, but
you know, Philly also factors into that.

1391
01:28:39.479 --> 01:28:43.359
Detroit's strong January and February gave them
this cushion. So if they walk

1392
01:28:43.359 --> 01:28:46.520
away with a five hundred points percentage, like, I think that's you want

1393
01:28:46.560 --> 01:28:49.119
to win more than half your games, but I think that's great. And

1394
01:28:49.239 --> 01:28:53.119
even if they walk away with a
little less, it's not like they're out

1395
01:28:53.159 --> 01:28:56.000
of it and the sky is falling. You'll have to see what the teams

1396
01:28:56.000 --> 01:29:00.279
around you have done. But if
they can tread water and come out of

1397
01:29:00.319 --> 01:29:03.680
this seven game stretch, I think
we're talking about competitive games in mid to

1398
01:29:03.760 --> 01:29:09.039
late March and even beyond. Hey, Ryan, Patrick Kane was on an

1399
01:29:09.079 --> 01:29:13.439
absolute heater before these last two games, and he still did score one against

1400
01:29:13.439 --> 01:29:17.039
the Islanders, but it looks like
he's been just a step slower and honestly

1401
01:29:17.159 --> 01:29:20.399
just not on the puck as smoothly
as before. Is there anything that stood

1402
01:29:20.399 --> 01:29:26.520
out to you about Patrick Kane the
last couple of games. Yeah, you

1403
01:29:26.600 --> 01:29:30.000
know what, Detroit as a whole
didn't play well against the Islanders. First

1404
01:29:30.039 --> 01:29:33.159
off, I think that was a
winnable game for them. I think they

1405
01:29:33.239 --> 01:29:36.439
didn't get the goaltending they needed to
kind of keep them in that game even

1406
01:29:36.479 --> 01:29:42.720
when they had their defensive lapses.
And Detroit also seems to struggle against teams

1407
01:29:42.760 --> 01:29:46.520
that are like good off the rush
and hard checking teams. The Panthers were

1408
01:29:46.600 --> 01:29:53.199
a masterclass in being aggressive on the
puck, aggressive on the body. Their

1409
01:29:53.239 --> 01:29:58.079
PK was phenomenal, and really anytime
Detroit did get an opportunity, they usually

1410
01:29:58.159 --> 01:30:01.119
kept the perimeter or if they broke
through. Sergei Lebrovsky was unbeatable. So

1411
01:30:01.720 --> 01:30:05.840
I agree Kane, you know,
wasn't able to be effective against the Panthers.

1412
01:30:05.880 --> 01:30:10.479
He had a couple of breaks that
didn't go his way. But I

1413
01:30:10.520 --> 01:30:14.119
think it was more of a team
thing in Detroit as a team generally struggles

1414
01:30:14.119 --> 01:30:18.159
against those styles. And I don't
want to, you know, throw up

1415
01:30:18.199 --> 01:30:23.439
the flag or anything or go back
to all the soft swedes can't get it

1416
01:30:23.520 --> 01:30:27.359
done like we used to hear,
But does that concern you at all going

1417
01:30:27.439 --> 01:30:30.439
into the playoffs? Is that the
Red Wings have been known to struggle against

1418
01:30:30.600 --> 01:30:34.199
bigger teams against more physical teams.
We all know playoff hockey's at a different

1419
01:30:34.279 --> 01:30:36.560
level. And when you look at
the two teams at the top of the

1420
01:30:36.600 --> 01:30:40.119
Eastern Conference, one of these teams
you might have to see. Whether it

1421
01:30:40.199 --> 01:30:43.760
be New York or Florida, they're
both pretty damn physical. Like, I

1422
01:30:43.880 --> 01:30:46.399
do not want to see Truba in
the playoffs. Are you concerned by that

1423
01:30:46.479 --> 01:30:51.800
at all? You know what,
it's just the reality of it. You're

1424
01:30:51.840 --> 01:30:55.560
not going to dodge it. So
I agree with you. I don't think

1425
01:30:55.640 --> 01:30:59.319
the Red Wings are really ready to
come into a series against you know,

1426
01:30:59.399 --> 01:31:02.479
a Florida example, and be at
all favored to win more than a game

1427
01:31:02.600 --> 01:31:06.840
or two. But they're not going
to get there until they learn what playoff

1428
01:31:06.880 --> 01:31:10.399
hockey's like. And that's why Steveuys, I mean, is so intent on

1429
01:31:10.479 --> 01:31:13.239
getting this team into the playoffs,
like they need to experience it. That

1430
01:31:13.439 --> 01:31:16.560
game recently was, I think was
a good test. I think they are

1431
01:31:16.800 --> 01:31:21.319
going to probably take hopefully a playoff
series, but the very least that game

1432
01:31:21.359 --> 01:31:26.479
against the Panthers and similar ones into
account when they consider the kinds of players

1433
01:31:26.520 --> 01:31:30.439
they add to their team. You
don't want, you know, just Bruisers.

1434
01:31:30.479 --> 01:31:31.920
If you're not just going to go
out and add like a matt Renpi

1435
01:31:32.039 --> 01:31:35.920
clone for no reason, although that'd
be cool, the guys massive, it's

1436
01:31:36.720 --> 01:31:40.439
it's about the guys you have,
Yeah, but also how the team has

1437
01:31:40.520 --> 01:31:43.720
to play. And you know what, for as much as Florida might piss

1438
01:31:43.720 --> 01:31:45.439
you off, as a fan of
the Red Wings, like you have to

1439
01:31:45.520 --> 01:31:48.520
admire how they're able to walk that
line. They know when to cross it,

1440
01:31:48.600 --> 01:31:51.720
they know when to pull a team
out of their game. The players

1441
01:31:51.760 --> 01:31:58.560
that Detroit has now they can learn
to do that better. Ryan two losses

1442
01:31:58.600 --> 01:32:03.840
an energy to our captain after the
priority pad came. When can we start

1443
01:32:03.880 --> 01:32:10.880
talking about a curse here? You
know what I've I've made my opinions on

1444
01:32:11.600 --> 01:32:15.479
patches, on jerseys clear on the
wing Wheel podcast. There's no good jersey

1445
01:32:15.520 --> 01:32:18.000
ad. I think they suck.
I think that was the sacred line that

1446
01:32:18.199 --> 01:32:23.159
was inevitable the NHL was going to
cross. I hate that they did it.

1447
01:32:24.159 --> 01:32:26.760
You saw it coming from a mile
away. I think I think I'm

1448
01:32:26.840 --> 01:32:29.479
happy as a watching the Red Wings
for as long as we did without it.

1449
01:32:29.600 --> 01:32:33.359
Honestly, the league is complicit in
this, but you know, it's

1450
01:32:33.359 --> 01:32:38.840
sort of the players, like the
players aren't agreeing to this without or like

1451
01:32:38.920 --> 01:32:41.279
this doesn't happen with that the players
agreeing to it, and they're getting a

1452
01:32:41.359 --> 01:32:44.720
huge financial incentive. They don't care
either. So it sucks, man.

1453
01:32:45.479 --> 01:32:48.439
It's just like it's all across the
NHL. Though it sucks for fans.

1454
01:32:48.479 --> 01:32:53.319
It's just it's what the modern NHL
is. It's what modern really pro sports

1455
01:32:53.359 --> 01:32:56.199
are. It's gonna happen everywhere.
Yeah, I think we gotta start getting

1456
01:32:56.199 --> 01:32:59.840
discounts on these jerseys if we're buying
them. We're just we're just advertising these

1457
01:32:59.840 --> 01:33:01.319
things for free. That's that's the
one part is like does this sit right

1458
01:33:01.359 --> 01:33:04.359
with me? Is like Priority give
me a free jerseys. I'm gonna rock

1459
01:33:04.399 --> 01:33:09.600
this Priority patch myself. Like that's
why I don't like, Man, I

1460
01:33:09.680 --> 01:33:13.159
want to put together an ad package. Yeah I will. I'll give my

1461
01:33:13.199 --> 01:33:15.760
guy Brady. But I did want
to ask one more thing about the deadline.

1462
01:33:15.840 --> 01:33:17.479
I don't know the NIXT got of
the question too, is since we're

1463
01:33:17.520 --> 01:33:21.039
not buyers just because the CBI timeline, could you see us being sellers by

1464
01:33:21.159 --> 01:33:28.159
chance? With them on death we
have in a way, Yeah, I

1465
01:33:28.239 --> 01:33:30.840
think I was then like, here's
the thing they can buy or they could

1466
01:33:30.920 --> 01:33:34.880
sell now or in the off season. I don't think you can confidently say

1467
01:33:34.920 --> 01:33:39.560
they're they're not one or the other. I think the Red Wingers are going

1468
01:33:39.600 --> 01:33:42.279
to have to do some un nodding
on on defense. In terms of the

1469
01:33:42.359 --> 01:33:45.920
defensive contracts they've had, Justin Hall's
name has been the one that's been out

1470
01:33:46.000 --> 01:33:53.359
there most commonly, even like even
just with the raises coming for Cider and

1471
01:33:53.479 --> 01:33:56.359
Raymond, and then you want to
bring back Kane and then you know you

1472
01:33:56.439 --> 01:33:59.960
want to bring back Karan that's rumored. You have to make other moves,

1473
01:34:00.199 --> 01:34:02.079
like they're gonna have to shed some
caps. So I think they're going to

1474
01:34:02.119 --> 01:34:05.239
find a way to get rid of
a defenseman, most likely Justin Hall,

1475
01:34:05.840 --> 01:34:12.359
and then like what happens. It's
hard to predict that they're going to,

1476
01:34:12.439 --> 01:34:15.760
you know, move a Shane gossis
there or Daniel Strong for example, because

1477
01:34:15.760 --> 01:34:17.840
they're important for this team right now
for this playoff push, and I think

1478
01:34:17.920 --> 01:34:21.760
Eisaman would rather have those players for
this push rather than you know, a

1479
01:34:21.880 --> 01:34:26.239
late second round pick or something.
Not that that's a bad asset, it's

1480
01:34:26.279 --> 01:34:29.279
a good asset, but they also
have one of the best you know prospect

1481
01:34:30.199 --> 01:34:34.760
classes in the NHL, so it's
a little bit of immediate reward versus potential

1482
01:34:35.239 --> 01:34:39.319
later reward thing. I don't know
that Detroit's going to sell just to sell

1483
01:34:40.079 --> 01:34:43.560
one of those guys that you did
not mention there. Ryan is a guy

1484
01:34:43.640 --> 01:34:46.960
in Joeveleno that I expect to have
to step up with the absence of Dylan

1485
01:34:47.039 --> 01:34:51.760
Larkin. He is a restrictive free
agent going forward. What do you think

1486
01:34:51.800 --> 01:34:55.600
a contract looks like for him?
Or do you think he is in this

1487
01:34:55.920 --> 01:35:00.119
last season as a Detroit Red Wing. No, he's He's a restricted free

1488
01:35:00.159 --> 01:35:04.680
agent. He does have arbitration rights, and so that process might be decided

1489
01:35:04.720 --> 01:35:09.640
that way, although it's never really
good for the player team relationship when they

1490
01:35:09.680 --> 01:35:12.560
go that direction. You know,
pretty commonly across the NHL, if a

1491
01:35:12.600 --> 01:35:15.600
player goes through arbitration, they're gone
from the team pretty soon after. I

1492
01:35:15.680 --> 01:35:18.720
think of Tyler Bertuzzi, I think
you can look at something similar to what

1493
01:35:18.760 --> 01:35:23.600
Michael Rasmusen got. You know,
four years tens three point two might come

1494
01:35:23.640 --> 01:35:27.840
in a little bit under. They're
not too far away in age. He's

1495
01:35:27.880 --> 01:35:31.520
having himself a great season. He
stepped up in a big way. I

1496
01:35:31.560 --> 01:35:34.720
think the Red Wings would do well
to sign a player like Vleno long term

1497
01:35:35.600 --> 01:35:38.960
and keep him, and I think
they're interested in that too. Like he

1498
01:35:39.039 --> 01:35:42.760
plays a premium position. He plays
the Red Wings way. He's young,

1499
01:35:42.840 --> 01:35:46.039
and they probably can get him relatively
cheap. It's it's much better to do

1500
01:35:46.159 --> 01:35:48.720
that rather than try to find that
kind of thing in free agency with an

1501
01:35:48.720 --> 01:35:53.960
older guy who's more expensive. Ryan, we appreciate you joining as always.

1502
01:35:53.960 --> 01:35:57.239
It's always great to have your knowledge
on and to talk some hockey with you.

1503
01:35:57.319 --> 01:35:59.880
And before we let you go,
and you know, you shout out

1504
01:36:00.119 --> 01:36:02.159
the winged wheel pod and everything right
like that. I just got a quick

1505
01:36:02.319 --> 01:36:06.640
NHL question. Do you think we're
gonna see Sid in a different sweater?

1506
01:36:06.840 --> 01:36:11.840
And because they've been talking about it
a lot, and that would be wild

1507
01:36:12.800 --> 01:36:15.439
in a different sweater than the Penguins. Yeah, you know what. I

1508
01:36:15.520 --> 01:36:18.079
asked the question on our show too, just for the sake of asking it.

1509
01:36:18.279 --> 01:36:21.039
At the end of the day,
we are I think Sid is cut

1510
01:36:21.119 --> 01:36:26.079
from the old clock of NHL players. He's had a lot of success to

1511
01:36:26.239 --> 01:36:29.600
like, you know, a few
cups and obviously he wants to be competitive,

1512
01:36:30.119 --> 01:36:32.640
but I think he's retiring a penguin. No matter what, I don't

1513
01:36:32.640 --> 01:36:36.399
see him as a cup chaser.
He's he's too loyal and I think he

1514
01:36:36.479 --> 01:36:40.199
wants to retire a penguin, which
is boring. I think it'd be great

1515
01:36:40.239 --> 01:36:43.399
for the NHL if SID went somewhere
else, But I think the last thing

1516
01:36:43.439 --> 01:36:45.399
we need to see is Colorado more
stacked than they already are, So I

1517
01:36:45.439 --> 01:36:55.039
won't complain too much. He's would
be crazy. I would not like that,

1518
01:36:55.960 --> 01:36:58.680
Ryan Man, I appreciate you joining
us. How about you give a

1519
01:36:58.680 --> 01:37:00.359
shot out to your show and the
next time you guys beyond everywhere else people

1520
01:37:00.359 --> 01:37:04.239
can catch you. Yeah, definitely. So. I'm one of the hosts

1521
01:37:04.239 --> 01:37:08.399
of the Winged Wheel podcast. Wherever
you get your podcasts, you can find

1522
01:37:08.520 --> 01:37:12.239
us. We're also on YouTube,
so you know, Amazon Music, Apple

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Podcasts, Google, Spotify, wherever, and if you want to look at

1524
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our ugly mugs, we're on YouTube
as well. We record twice a week

1525
01:37:18.479 --> 01:37:23.359
Sundays and then typically midweeks, So
our next episode is Wednesday night. It's

1526
01:37:23.359 --> 01:37:25.640
gonna be a little bit of a
different episode. That's gonna be our official

1527
01:37:25.720 --> 01:37:29.640
trade deadline preview, so it's gonna
be a big one and go to wing

1528
01:37:29.720 --> 01:37:32.279
Wheel podcast dot com for all of
that information and more. Appreciate you guys

1529
01:37:32.279 --> 01:37:34.159
having me on. It means a
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1530
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right I saw the stats. You
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1531
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hell yeah, yeah, it's very
very cool. We yeah, by the

1532
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numbers, top three hockey pot in
America, which was awesome. We'll never

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pass you know, chicklets in THIRTYO
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1534
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Basic number one three mid season is
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those guys, Yeah, you're basically
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gett pushed by the big name brand. That's awesome, dude, congratulations,

1537
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grat thank you, thanks so much
for joining us as alls man. Appreciate

1538
01:38:04.359 --> 01:38:06.680
you and keep up the great work. Love this, sir. You guys.

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Tom Pilot that's not really breaking news, but it does include our Detroit Lions.

1569
01:40:27.960 --> 01:40:29.840
I'll try to get this video out
to Chris while I'm doing this,

1570
01:40:30.079 --> 01:40:34.760
but official pre draft visits are taking
place, more of them. Northern Iowa

1571
01:40:34.800 --> 01:40:40.399
defensive tackle Christian Boyd, a surprisal
mission from last week's NFL Combine, has

1572
01:40:40.439 --> 01:40:43.720
seven pre draft visits lined up so
far, including the Detroit Lions and Saints

1573
01:40:43.800 --> 01:40:48.239
this week. Six foot four,
three hundred and seventeen pounds and turn heads

1574
01:40:48.319 --> 01:40:53.199
at the East West Shrine Bowl with
reps like this and the same reps like

1575
01:40:53.279 --> 01:40:56.760
this, because it comes to the
video I sent to Chris. But it's

1576
01:40:56.760 --> 01:41:00.439
a big dude. We'll talk about
a three tech threeound man, the guy

1577
01:41:00.479 --> 01:41:02.920
that I want next to a lean
what you see the videos? But you're

1578
01:41:03.039 --> 01:41:06.680
you're gonna like it? Where do
you think? Where's his projection? I

1579
01:41:06.680 --> 01:41:10.720
don't know. I'm not I'm not
too familiar with this game. Considering he

1580
01:41:10.800 --> 01:41:14.399
was a hold on the phone,
just went out, Christian boyd Christian.

1581
01:41:14.680 --> 01:41:17.199
Everybody four Chat is familiar with him. I'm assuming Day two just because he

1582
01:41:17.279 --> 01:41:20.840
wasn't even he wasn't the Combine.
That's weird, right, I mean that's

1583
01:41:21.760 --> 01:41:25.920
they try to invite the best guys, right, highly projected guy. So

1584
01:41:26.439 --> 01:41:30.199
I'm sitting with day two and beyond. But we'll see. I don't I

1585
01:41:30.239 --> 01:41:34.239
don't think did Robert Combine invite?
Yeah he did because he has a rascals

1586
01:41:34.600 --> 01:41:38.840
or was that from a pro day? That might be from a pro day.

1587
01:41:40.119 --> 01:41:44.760
Here's a video all the way,
let's see another sound. Northern Iowa,

1588
01:41:44.960 --> 01:41:48.319
Northern Iowa. M it was just
a nice little rap man like I'm

1589
01:41:48.359 --> 01:41:51.720
going off of coach j almost look
like mad. Look at that as it

1590
01:41:51.800 --> 01:41:58.319
kind doesn't like Madden. I don't
know that. That's just like excited men.

1591
01:41:58.800 --> 01:42:00.880
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ninety eight. You should you should?

1597
01:42:26.199 --> 01:42:28.520
Yeah, you should know. Would
you watch Dies? They channel something growing

1598
01:42:28.600 --> 01:42:36.439
up? Definitely definitely place I like
Wizards. Selena Gomez, You're gonna hate

1599
01:42:36.479 --> 01:42:42.239
on me right now? Is bad? You know? Nick? Definitely did

1600
01:42:42.319 --> 01:42:46.319
that. You're watching? Yeah,
you're watching. You guys are just getting

1601
01:42:46.359 --> 01:42:49.319
out of hand. Now. Back
to Sweet Life on Deck. When we

1602
01:42:49.439 --> 01:42:54.279
started The Heavyweights, No, we'd
have like in studio guests, I have

1603
01:42:54.399 --> 01:42:57.520
him go back there on the green
screen and do like you're watching the Heavyweights

1604
01:42:57.560 --> 01:43:01.039
and that has never made like anything
of it. We got who I have?

1605
01:43:01.199 --> 01:43:05.520
Charles did it? Oh? Yeah, Buck did it? Dion did

1606
01:43:05.560 --> 01:43:11.079
it, and uh, sergeant did
it too. I was gonna make something

1607
01:43:11.159 --> 01:43:13.560
up. I don't know yet.
Maybe I'll still do it. Shout at

1608
01:43:13.560 --> 01:43:15.840
this, you know. Yeah,
it was underrated movies, by the way,

1609
01:43:15.199 --> 01:43:23.479
underrated movies for sure. Lucky the
Irish killing Dude, Love that Irish

1610
01:43:23.520 --> 01:43:30.880
is absolute moves gas give It's like
just a little what's the proper way to

1611
01:43:30.880 --> 01:43:34.359
say a Leprechaun. Cody was sick. So was Wizards. I thought that

1612
01:43:34.479 --> 01:43:39.800
was Joey. I didn't. I
was tripping for a minute. Code name

1613
01:43:39.880 --> 01:43:44.880
Kid next Door. That was a
good one cartoon, cartoon cartoon, He's

1614
01:43:44.920 --> 01:43:54.840
a cowardly dollar. That was going
to My dad said, the only shows

1615
01:43:54.920 --> 01:43:58.119
that like, the only like cartoons
I watched growing up that he actually liked

1616
01:43:58.119 --> 01:44:02.880
were Ed Neddie and SpongeBob. And
it makes sense, funny Spongebobs, SpongeBob

1617
01:44:02.960 --> 01:44:05.720
is to Go Season one is go
to to I just bought the Paramount plus

1618
01:44:06.199 --> 01:44:11.800
to put Bryson on and like,
we watched season one. That's that's the

1619
01:44:11.880 --> 01:44:18.000
best episode. Smelly smell that smelly
smells, It smells smelly. John f

1620
01:44:18.079 --> 01:44:23.760
And Lord said. Halloween Town Halloween
for sure, never got into it too

1621
01:44:23.840 --> 01:44:28.159
much. I was Disney movie you're
talking about, But by the time I

1622
01:44:28.199 --> 01:44:30.880
started watching Disney it was already on
like the second versions. I missed the

1623
01:44:30.920 --> 01:44:35.000
first one. I'm trying to think
whatever whatever. Disney movies, Billian Mandy

1624
01:44:35.119 --> 01:44:41.680
was a great show. Grim Adventures
Billion Mandy Crackhead energy on that show Dexter's

1625
01:44:41.760 --> 01:44:45.319
Lab. That's probably I probably go
to wine card, you know work.

1626
01:44:45.399 --> 01:44:50.079
Honestly, I'll be wanting to say
it pop pop girls guests to not going

1627
01:44:50.079 --> 01:44:57.640
on saying that I'll take the bullet
guys guys. I played with poly pockets.

1628
01:45:00.119 --> 01:45:03.159
It was oddly specific define my sisters
did, though. I remember one

1629
01:45:03.199 --> 01:45:08.880
time she choked on like because like
little rubber dolls whatever she like, choked

1630
01:45:08.880 --> 01:45:12.960
on like one of the pieces I'll
never probably pocket almost almost killed my sister.

1631
01:45:13.119 --> 01:45:16.439
My sister one time she had like
my dad died in my polly pocket.

1632
01:45:16.520 --> 01:45:20.119
Don't joke around, like I want
this to sound like weirder sexist,

1633
01:45:20.239 --> 01:45:26.079
but like she had like a giant
plastic kitchen. Yeah. Then she used

1634
01:45:26.119 --> 01:45:28.399
to like like in her room that
she would play with. It was like

1635
01:45:28.920 --> 01:45:31.800
like a big ass kitchen. It
happened, and uh, like her room

1636
01:45:31.920 --> 01:45:34.119
was next to me. And my
brother Cole's room, and one night we

1637
01:45:34.199 --> 01:45:39.039
heard her like scream and so like
me and my Coal used to me and

1638
01:45:39.119 --> 01:45:43.439
my brother Cole used to do some
some funck shit is little kids, where

1639
01:45:43.439 --> 01:45:46.000
we'd just scream random ship at bed
in bed when everybody's sleeping at like two

1640
01:45:46.000 --> 01:45:49.479
am, until my dad would run
in there and yell at us. And

1641
01:45:49.800 --> 01:45:53.680
uh, we heard my sister scream, so we thought she was trying to

1642
01:45:53.720 --> 01:45:57.319
imitate us, so we started screaming
again, and then she screamed out her.

1643
01:45:57.439 --> 01:46:00.000
We go in there and it's like
two in the morning and she's hanging

1644
01:46:00.119 --> 01:46:04.359
from her foot in the like top
of the kitchen set, like flailing around

1645
01:46:04.760 --> 01:46:10.680
what She's probably climbing it or something. And so all right, guys,

1646
01:46:10.720 --> 01:46:14.680
I'll say it. That's crazy.
Cheetah Girls get and I'm playing sister of

1647
01:46:14.680 --> 01:46:19.520
the Traveling Pants Xeon Girl twenty first
century. I didn't I didn't like that

1648
01:46:19.560 --> 01:46:26.760
one. Wild Thornberries, even steven
Movies, guess even Stevens was good.

1649
01:46:27.039 --> 01:46:32.279
Rocket Power, Rocket pocket Power.
We have a caller who we got.

1650
01:46:33.359 --> 01:46:40.079
We got ed Wardo for more the
show. Eduardo, you are live on

1651
01:46:40.159 --> 01:46:47.479
Heavyweights? What man, yo,
what's guns going on? Oh I'm good.

1652
01:46:48.119 --> 01:46:54.319
Listen. So this is my thing
on j right. I don't care

1653
01:46:54.359 --> 01:46:57.479
about keeping him. I want someone
like what do I mean by that?

1654
01:46:57.680 --> 01:47:00.319
I want someone that actually we have
some any humble guys on this team,

1655
01:47:00.720 --> 01:47:04.119
Like I love me from Brian Brand
she's too quiet, I love me if

1656
01:47:04.319 --> 01:47:08.800
he's too quiet, even Hutch out
there just quiet. Like we need someone

1657
01:47:08.880 --> 01:47:13.520
that like is out there talking to
smack, running around doing it, you

1658
01:47:13.600 --> 01:47:15.119
know what I mean. Like,
I just feel like that's what our defense

1659
01:47:15.239 --> 01:47:18.159
needs. Now. I'm not saying
it has to pay him, you know,

1660
01:47:19.239 --> 01:47:21.960
but that's why I would want him
back, because he brings that to

1661
01:47:23.119 --> 01:47:26.760
our defense. You know, I'm
tired of all of these put your head

1662
01:47:26.800 --> 01:47:29.359
down, go to work. Well
we're all quiet kind of guys, you

1663
01:47:29.439 --> 01:47:31.880
know. Like I want someone that's
like, is about business, if that

1664
01:47:32.000 --> 01:47:34.279
makes sense. But that's all.
That's all I wanted to say. I

1665
01:47:34.279 --> 01:47:38.720
hope you guys have a great day. Appreciate appreciate man. Thanks calling him

1666
01:47:38.720 --> 01:47:42.279
brother, Uh, big supporter always
in the chat, and I'm with him.

1667
01:47:43.039 --> 01:47:45.159
You need dogs. You need dogs
on that defense, and Chohnson is

1668
01:47:45.199 --> 01:47:48.680
definitely a dog out there. So
if you bring him back, I'm cool.

1669
01:47:48.760 --> 01:47:51.159
With it, depending on you know, the size of the deal.

1670
01:47:51.239 --> 01:47:55.760
But if I would like to get
more guys that are that are cut like

1671
01:47:55.800 --> 01:48:00.079
Chauncey Gunner Johnson as well, Yeah
yeah, I just recon Straw and a

1672
01:48:00.119 --> 01:48:01.920
couple of interviews he did, and
he's a big trash talker obviously, brings

1673
01:48:02.039 --> 01:48:05.239
like the physicality you want to see
out of a Detroit Lion or that become

1674
01:48:05.239 --> 01:48:08.960
a customers scene out of Detroit Lions. But now it's looking like he might

1675
01:48:09.039 --> 01:48:11.479
drop in that draft a little bit. He may become that. But if

1676
01:48:11.479 --> 01:48:14.359
he's gonna be that on this team, I'm gonna I'm gonna keep it real

1677
01:48:14.359 --> 01:48:16.720
with you guys. Who better to
have around as that veteran leader than c

1678
01:48:16.880 --> 01:48:21.439
J DJ to help him like talke
that line, although next does talk the

1679
01:48:21.479 --> 01:48:25.239
line fairly well, like he's the
one that got the Chicago Bear to punch

1680
01:48:25.319 --> 01:48:27.960
him, he's the one that got
his teammate to punch him, and all

1681
01:48:28.039 --> 01:48:31.399
like the escapades he's brought along.
But I wouldn't be surprised. Tables,

1682
01:48:31.640 --> 01:48:34.640
oh the turntables. No turntable.
And it's just we only have two safets

1683
01:48:34.680 --> 01:48:38.800
in the roster right now. And
if he's willing to play in that rotation

1684
01:48:39.039 --> 01:48:43.800
then like yeah, bring him back. Wait m PW Was that really Dan

1685
01:48:43.880 --> 01:48:46.279
Schneider's kid, There's no way what
what was Dan Sneyder's kid? He said,

1686
01:48:46.359 --> 01:48:51.039
Dan Schneider knocked up Jamien that was
I know she got pregnant because like

1687
01:48:51.199 --> 01:48:56.880
he had a lot of He's got
a nasty allegation. Was one of like

1688
01:48:57.000 --> 01:49:00.600
the camera men or something as the
rumor I remember, but who said it?

1689
01:49:01.800 --> 01:49:04.600
John f ing Lord? Treasure Planet
was go to do Treasure Planet and

1690
01:49:04.680 --> 01:49:10.159
Road to El Dorado. Those are
two very very slept on movies. Oh

1691
01:49:10.439 --> 01:49:15.359
Up, Up and Away the superhero
one on Disney sky High. Yeah,

1692
01:49:15.720 --> 01:49:17.920
no, I'm talking about U Up
and Away with the black the Black Kid

1693
01:49:18.239 --> 01:49:21.399
and Dad of the Mustache. Oh
yeah yeah, it's like all that superhero

1694
01:49:21.479 --> 01:49:29.600
families to total change of pace.
You guys remember that like nickeloneon like game

1695
01:49:29.640 --> 01:49:33.479
show that they had like the Ones, Yeah that was everyone, Legend of

1696
01:49:33.479 --> 01:49:36.359
the Hidden Top, it was my
ship, that was fire. I'm looking

1697
01:49:36.359 --> 01:49:41.079
at the dream of tons like shout
out Greg from Succession from sky High.

1698
01:49:41.479 --> 01:49:45.880
Yeah. Johnny Tsunami, Johnny Tsunami
is a good one. I remember that

1699
01:49:45.960 --> 01:49:49.159
was a good one I don't remember
it is Airbud. Are those Disney specials?

1700
01:49:50.279 --> 01:49:53.760
I don't know. I think that
was a Disney movie. Y'all sleep

1701
01:49:53.840 --> 01:49:57.840
on KaBlam. I don't know.
What's that one where the guy dude the

1702
01:49:57.920 --> 01:50:05.520
Batman animated series Goaded, Batman Beyond
Goaded, Justice League goated. What do

1703
01:50:05.600 --> 01:50:10.680
you think about the patents and Batman? I loved it, Benson, Yeah,

1704
01:50:12.000 --> 01:50:14.079
yeah, it was a great movie. I don't know if he like

1705
01:50:15.600 --> 01:50:17.159
killed it per se, because he
didn't say no. I think he did.

1706
01:50:17.600 --> 01:50:21.000
He had like fourteen lines in the
movie. Can't get my hot take

1707
01:50:21.039 --> 01:50:25.039
off when it comes to Batman.
I like that one better than Dark Knight.

1708
01:50:25.159 --> 01:50:29.800
And I know that everybody all right, but yeah, here's here's a

1709
01:50:29.800 --> 01:50:31.800
why. Hear me out, No, hear me out. I'm not mad

1710
01:50:31.840 --> 01:50:35.720
anybody that disagrees. But the reason
I like it is because that that Batman

1711
01:50:35.960 --> 01:50:40.800
is so much more realistic to me
than the Batman in Dark Knight. Like

1712
01:50:41.479 --> 01:50:45.079
this guy is like a playboy billionaire
in Dark Knight, and he's like smooth

1713
01:50:45.119 --> 01:50:47.239
with everybody. No this if you
if you have the trauma that Batman has,

1714
01:50:47.359 --> 01:50:55.920
you're gonna be fucking It's it's a
different he's already better than for a

1715
01:50:56.039 --> 01:51:00.520
while. Yeah, get rid of
that drop fucking five minutes Man in Dark

1716
01:51:00.560 --> 01:51:02.399
Knight, he's already been Batman for
a while. Batman in The Batman,

1717
01:51:02.479 --> 01:51:04.840
he's only been it for like a
year or something like. Okay, you

1718
01:51:04.920 --> 01:51:10.319
know what, then? I do
like that the Batman. I like that

1719
01:51:10.399 --> 01:51:13.600
he's more of a detective because that's
what he is. He's the world's greatest

1720
01:51:13.640 --> 01:51:17.760
detective. And he's also a billion
of a playboy ninja. But it's they

1721
01:51:18.279 --> 01:51:21.760
definitely leaned into more of the detective
part of it in The Batman, which

1722
01:51:21.760 --> 01:51:26.880
I like. And also it was
just scary how real like that like Riddler

1723
01:51:27.279 --> 01:51:30.479
villain could be and how he just
like inspired on some dark web corner.

1724
01:51:31.239 --> 01:51:36.159
That freaked me out. I will
say that that probably I guess that messed

1725
01:51:36.159 --> 01:51:38.960
with me. I guess as an
actor, you'd have to give it to

1726
01:51:39.039 --> 01:51:41.600
Joker as like the best villain.
But like for plot wise, that was

1727
01:51:41.640 --> 01:51:45.760
the best villain and the ship that
he did, yeah, because that's level.

1728
01:51:47.039 --> 01:51:49.479
Yeah, that's the actor. He
was just in the dumb money that

1729
01:51:49.560 --> 01:51:54.399
came out to about the whole like
stock thing. Isn't that Netflix already?

1730
01:51:54.640 --> 01:52:01.159
Yeah? Yeah. Also the Woman
and and the New Batman so funny.

1731
01:52:01.199 --> 01:52:05.840
Yeah, Zoe Kravits, I mean
yeah, and Halfway is pretty fine too.

1732
01:52:06.239 --> 01:52:14.560
She is so Cravis. Yeah,
she got that war all right.

1733
01:52:14.640 --> 01:52:16.600
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1764
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dollars. What's the first thing you're
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1765
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baby, let them go blow. What

1766
01:55:30.439 --> 01:55:32.600
are you doing? Nick? First
thing you're doing? Fifty kr? Part

1767
01:55:32.640 --> 01:55:38.479
of tonight? It's fifty k.
What's first thing you're doing? A damn

1768
01:55:38.720 --> 01:55:42.840
probably take it next week off and
I'm going on some sec gass vacation.

1769
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That's probably the first one like that. What would you do if you had

1770
01:55:45.600 --> 01:55:49.000
a million dollars two chicks at the
same time, man, I would do

1771
01:55:49.079 --> 01:55:54.319
that for damn sure? Uh,
you know what? I would do nothing.

1772
01:55:55.439 --> 01:55:58.560
I would sit at home all day
and I would do nothing. You

1773
01:55:58.680 --> 01:56:00.399
gotta you're rich to do nothing.
Look my cousin, he's broken. I'll

1774
01:56:00.439 --> 01:56:03.680
do shit, all right, we
promise you. Guys cook up at the

1775
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end of the show. D n
C E n T ahead of us,

1776
01:56:06.479 --> 01:56:13.640
already says BAM fifteen plus Rosea fifteen
plus Ivy fifteen plus BAM eight boards,

1777
01:56:13.760 --> 01:56:20.279
K six assists take nineteen uh Fontechio
two plus threes. That's a plus seven

1778
01:56:20.359 --> 01:56:27.600
ninety parlay. I'll ride, I'll
take it. I'll probably add K fifteen

1779
01:56:27.640 --> 01:56:31.560
plus of that, and I might
just leave it at that. To be

1780
01:56:31.640 --> 01:56:34.640
honest with you, I like the
font Techyo two threes. I might put

1781
01:56:34.680 --> 01:56:41.840
K two threes. We'll be shooting
threes though like that. Sometimes sometimes he

1782
01:56:42.000 --> 01:56:45.239
just he's all about the mid range
and attacking the ribs and he shoots like

1783
01:56:45.319 --> 01:56:49.319
three threes. I think I might
be trying to just get back on track

1784
01:56:49.399 --> 01:56:53.319
with a win. Here. Plus
seven ninety seems a little too raw rich

1785
01:56:53.439 --> 01:56:57.920
right now for me. But scared
money ain't make money. So DNC,

1786
01:56:58.640 --> 01:57:00.880
that's right, money, make no
money. I'm taking I'm doing it right

1787
01:57:00.920 --> 01:57:05.119
now. Take your money. I
never drive repeat it again. It is.

1788
01:57:05.800 --> 01:57:09.760
Let me get logged in here too
with us. Yeah, mine's down

1789
01:57:09.880 --> 01:57:12.920
right now? I don't is it
down? I cannot log in what you

1790
01:57:13.000 --> 01:57:17.800
do? Richard trying? I'm trying
here. I never asked me what I

1791
01:57:18.000 --> 01:57:25.640
do by fifty k? I guess
I just it's not possible. So that's

1792
01:57:25.680 --> 01:57:28.359
fair. What would you do with
your fifty k? Chris? I turned

1793
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that into about a two point seven
mili money line on the Pistons baby getting

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out of here? Would you do
it for real? No? No,

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but I would. I would set
aside a honestly. Yeah, honestly,

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that is the best thing you've ever
said to me. That's the nicest thing

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you've ever said to me. That's
a realized friend right there? Fifteen?

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Is he been scoring like that this
year? Yeah? The thing that worries

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me is are the starters going to
be playing in the fourth cour No,

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That's where I'm worried. I don't. I don't do what Miami I'm gonna

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do. I like the Terry ro
zero one, Terry Terry rozeero guards always

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tear the pistons up. But you
know what, Bam is good for fifteen

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points? If Wiseman plays four minutes, that's true. That's a true statement.

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What do you say, BAM's good
for fifteen points. If Wiseman plays

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four minutes, that's that's a great
point. And if you want to woods

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to that that manti is still can
continue to play the he doesn't care what

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we gotta say on sorry, well
that'll do it. Manty, you're a

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terrorist. Appreciate you all watching the
World with Heavyweights New episode seven. Go

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over and spend more. X speaks. Smash one button, smash the subscribe

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button. I appreciate that for easy
more. Chris, I'm Spencer with a

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Heavyweights. Appreciate you all for watching. Make sure you tune in tomorrow.

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We'll see you guys. La Case