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First and foremost, we had a freaking Chernobyl event and my town yes,
yeah, talk about it. That ship was insane, I say,
around the Clinton Township area. If you guys haven't heard already, if you're
hear locally in Michigan, I actually think I made a national news there was.
I believe it's selective distributing. They sell everything from freaking like vape tanks
or nice genoxide tanks, uh to whatever the hellouse. Well, I don't,
I don't. Chris, did you see like the final news how the
fire started? I just know what happened. Whippets real, he has like
whippits and like some other shit too, TVD products then two or something CO
two either way. For an hour straight, it was like it was an
hour hour straight explosion, bro, just NonStop. I initially thought it was
fireworks, man. Then I was like, oh shit, like somethings going
down. I thought it was like a train track, just like all the
pieces colliding or something like that. No, dude, it was fucking exploding,
no joke, for an hour from your house. Yes, they're hear
from my house, Chris, you live right by how far? I heard
it from my house? And what's crazy? So I live at fifteen Harperad.
This was at fifteen and Gross Spec, which is like four miles away.
I heard it. People at twenty one mile heard it. There was
reports that people in Farmington heard it. Heard something atte crazy. I was
playing out divers. Oh okay, I was hearing other explosions. Yeah,
fighting for you Hell yeah, brother, so you head sat down and yeah,
games in the basement right, No, well it's it's on my PSI
pops dude. Yeah, you would have heard it if he heard it.
No, it was fucking insane. So I was lighting up. I actually
we had videos. Yeah, that was the so here. I got one
break one on three fifteen miles away from that though, So I mean there's
people from oh, there's people at twenty one mile twenty three. So this
is like after the fact that this is trying to put out, but like
this ship kept exploding. Yeah. My one of my shot in my guy
Core, he was right over there and like right when it first start,
he hopped over and drove he and his daughter and the guy out the car
to kind of like watch it, and then he said, fucking like her
paintings started like fucking flying, Yeah, and like hitting the ground. It
was like raining. That's how one personally got killed. Yeah, it was
nineteen year old like die watching outside seven eleven. So you say, you
hop back in the car went back to his house after that. But yeah,
it was fucking it was crazy. It was hours straight of this.
I was tripping balls. And I really don't because I don't have cable.
I only watched like I watched myself on blue leg or internet whatnot, So
like I don't have the news like to know what was going on. This
is where you get your entertainment. I don't got cable, So I didn't
say it on my porch. Oh I did. But I'm just saying they
have like a new source of like what the fuck was going on here?
What I'm saying, like, and then my whole family, my neighbors I'm
telling about like you should probably go inside. I don't know, we should
be reading this shit in They didn't have like a final They were like,
ah, don't worry about Yeah, I don't know, bro, No,
that's to me. That's to me where I got scared. It is like
the wall in term facts. I have a friend who literally lives right at
fifteen gross speck, Like he was feet from what happened, and his brother
was on His little brother was on the way home, and the like find
out like the iPhone Find your Friends or whatever was like showing that he was
in the McDonald's parking lot, which was like, which was like right by
it. So he started freaking out and calling him and he couldn't answer because
he could not hear it with the phone connected to the speaker in his car.
He could not hear it over the explosion. Man, it was that
was that was wild. That's something I've never experienced in my life. Like
me and my dad were sitting there watching the news and we're just like how
do we keep hearing explosions? Like I'm sorry, I'm dumb, but like
once she think everything exploded within the first like two minutes, how are we
hearing explosions and those paying things all those like I know, but when it
was just like light them all off, like that's what was happening. That's
why I was like, yeah, but when you have the other video,
we said, yeah, played that one that that one gets a little bit
more context, like because this was after the fact. I did have YouTube
TV Stevo football seasons over Kansas. So here's save that money boy. Yeah
yeah, yeah, that's having exploding. Yeah, that's yeah. Play And
I'm sorry, I don't have if I can't think explain, it's better.
I just I don't really have words for it. It was. It was.
It was insane. We were joking around my own buddycause he has like
the guy that was over there, he has a really conservative buddy calling.
He's like, it's happening, damn. Yeah, yeah, that's pretty crazy.
It was. It was wild. But I'm glad that everyone outside of
the firefighter and I guess the nineteen year old two recipes that is fortunate.
And there was the road rage incident too. Yeah, some got shot at
fifteen Kelly went yesterday literally right before that happened. During the bombing, I
think it was bombing. I think it was because of the because of the
traffic, like somebody was stopped and so the person got really aggravated that they
were stopped. And that's what the reports are is that basically it was over
like all the blockage that was happening because of the fire that like somebody was
trying to leave and like the art person was kind of just like panicking and
staying still, and road rates took over and they shot him. Shooting somebody
over traffic is wild. Yeah, that's insane. I had old guy plugg
on you before. Really, yeah, I just there's been two times.
Yeah, old way older. The one time it happened, I called the
guy's bluff because I just I could tell a guy's pussy. I was like,
fucking do it, which is like, don't mark who fucking fight all
the time and girl fighting. He was like, Bro, you're fucking crazy.
Yeah, that guy fucking hopped out the window. I was like,
do it, pussy Jesus all right. The second one, I'm pretty sure
that old guy was gonna use it. And as I was rolled out my
window, let him spit on the window and say whatever the other that's say.
I had something on me too, but I was like, this is
not like I don't know what the fuck they do in this situation. I
had one other time too. This guy was like following me on six ninety
six and my girlfriend at the time, I had my ship in my glove
box. I was like, give me the fucking thing, and she's like
crying, no, scared. I'm like, bitch this guy, I don't
know the fuck this guy's done. Give me my fucking gun. And yeah,
but that was crazy. That's you had a gun pull on him.
Yeah, I mean from a cop. Yeah. One other time too,
pedestrian, I don't think. Yeah, two old white guys both both times
previous times and again in traffic too. Who's a real dangerous over there?
Uh? Yeah, man, it's I don't know, shooting someone out over
traffic is ridiculous. We always don't care about your races. Do you ever
think like one of those two races that was like mess up? You are
like trying to figure out what the fuck is he? This is real tame
No, But I guess I'm glad that nobody else got hurt. The whole
situation that was crazy. I put this one briefly into it because somebody wanted
to talk about it during the Armani and Edward Show. It's Ryan Garcia stuff.
You didn't keep an eye on that. No, dude's been having like
a straight like mental breakdown. You're really gonna fight coming up next month in
the twentieth for twenty high against Devin Hainey, and like Devin Haney is like,
are you on drugs or something like that? I don't like four twenty
Yeah, it's not. My car got totaled one for twenty oh oh yeah
PTSD. Yeah, I'm gonna is it a is it a weekday? What?
Probably because I'm calling off. I'm not driving to five out of seven
chaps. No, don't do that. What are you doing? Sorry?
But I mean that's the mask. So what happened with Ryan Garcia? Yeah,
he went on his Instagram. I might have been his Twitter, his
Instagram, but his Instagram. He went out there and said like recipes Ryan
Garcia, like six six six and los a bunch of like if you were
just like the fucking elbow drop me. No way. Yeah, he was
like doing coke or something. No one knows. Actually, I don't think
it's I don't think it's drugs because his ex wife came out and said that
she thinks she's had like a mental breakdown or something like that. I mean,
drugs can definitely like Blake Griffin a mental breakdown, that's true. He
can push you right to the edge. He's also been boxing, since like,
oh he's a kid, he's probably some hello CT as well. Yeah,
probably a good combination of it all. But uh, I guess probayers
off to him, and there's no the fight hasn't been called off as of
yet. I don't know if that one. That one's kind of scary.
Wasn't there like one too that he was like missing or something or people just
couldn't contact him for a few hours. That's what happened. He reported himself
as dead or I don't know if it's him, but he said stuck got
hacked. The guy hacked or reported on his Instagram he like he was killed
or dead or something like that, and he's gonna get in contact him body.
Then he posted something last night say I'm okay an Yeah maybe maybe that's
what. I don't know that that was pretty crazy. And then I guess
I'll put this in here for Chris, but we got three minutes. Maybe
we save it. Towards the end, it's this little Pistons venting session about
Monty's inability to stagger Kay Cunningham and Jade n Ivy. In the comments,
he had evolving again staying that he can't do it because don't want to be
a small lineup. Just want to say that one Chris and we've got three.
No, there's really not much to say other than that is a dumb
excuse because at the end of the day, your team has single digit wins.
Get your shit together, try some shit, like what is what is
worse? What is gonna get outscored more than the bench unit? Nothing?
The bench unit sucks. They had one good game recently where they were like,
okay for a stretch, but the bench unit has sucked all season.
Matter of fact, I look up some numbers Caid with with Stuart and Duran
is plus nine. How are you plus nine on a team that how's that?
A lineup that's plus nine yeah, with no spacing, but also on
such a losing team. That shows that not only is that team good,
but that that lineup is really good. Like there's things that he can figure
out and he could try and he said, no more trying shit. But
it's like you're doing the same shit. You're not really you're not really making
too many changes. People were saying that he slightly changes rotations, but honestly,
it's just stubbornness. And I'm at the point where dude, I just
I just want to wash my hands of this situation. I just want to
be done with it. Move on, let's try to find another coach something,
because I'm over it. I'm over this. He's actively trying to get
fired. You can't. There's no other way to explain this shit. I
mean a DNC and T says perfectly. In the comments, he says a
small lineup in quotation Mark, Meanwhile, you try to out Sasser and Flynn.
Yeah, what do you mean, bro, I mean, I don't
know. Many Maybe we bring into a little bit of back half. The
other were about to say, Nick, you want to speak a piece of
your season take older. Yeah. I was just gonna close this one off
by asking do the Pistons keep it within twenty tonight in South Beach? No,
I don't know, but we are we cooking up tonight. That's the
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at least sprinkle something so we can watch it. The parlay. The Pistons
parlay finally finally died out against Orlando when they benched Ivy and k for like
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Wow, everything was blowing up. Omaha o my ha uh. I
should have screenshot too. If you guys aren't active on x or if you're
active on Instagram, see your GUARDA Johnson reci changed his Twitter profile picture and
our miss Instagram profile picture to him in the Detroit Lions uniform and change the
bio to mind over matter, and I guess Twitter's kind of like wondering if
he's leaving. I don't think it would mean he's leaving if you put himself
in an a Lion's uniform, per se what. I don't care what athletes
do with their social media's. It always means some of them. I mean,
doesn't remember when Ivy got rid of all of the piston stuff on his
Twitter. And it doesn't matter, bro, We'll see what happens. If
it happens, it happens. Them changing their Instagram bio is not gonna sway
me to think it's gonna happen one way or the other. I think there's
something to it. I think, ey single time when these athletes change their
bio or like do these weird things like something is coming. I mean,
they got millions of dollars and maybe it's just bored and that's what they do.
I mean, when the Kyler Murray stuff happened, something led to that,
as we've seen in the past with other athletes too. I think this
is a positive science for Detroit Alliance fans, though, I think this means
he is going to return to the Detroit Alliance. Why else would you make
your profile picture yourself at the uniform. That's not the case. I don't
know, I don't I don't really. Like I said, I don't care
about they changed their profile picture, they changed their bio. Whoa look out
Like, no, it's whatever, couchles, Oh what is he doing taking
his nap? My man, I see you dipped out of there. Go
ahead, Chris. For me, it's it's the corniest thing, bro,
I don't care. Like usually you're right easy, it means something. But
this is by far my least favorite segment. Well, whenever we have to
talk about somebody changing their social media it's the most boring shit in the world.
It's corny. The athletes know they're doing it for whatever reason they want
to be cryptic, and like, I blame Lebron for this. I know
everybody blames Lebron for a lot of things, but that's zero dark thirty.
Now I feel like that inspired all this bullshit. Now we don't do it
either. I think yeah time, yeah, it does it once. Then
you'd be looking at his likes. He's like im porn and stuff. It's
like, all right, bro, but no, it's to me, it's
just it's stupid. It's stupid, it's corny. It doesn't mean anything.
Mind over matter. I mean, I guess it's better than money over success,
right. I guess it means the Lions aren't giving him a bag,
like if you really want to dive into it. I guess which that makes
you happy? Easy, because you damn sure don't want him having money you
and spinin That whole beef started because of Smitty. He's fucking calling with cancer.
Huh did not did not call mcnzer. I think you're saying the Detroit
Lions and I guess if you want to turn into the fun part of the
segment, a former Detroit Lion safety Slash Nickel was released saved by the Seattle
Seahawks, and that's Quandre Diggs. Jamal Adams is part of that equation too.
I don't really see that as a reality of him coming here and taking
part of any type of rotation to a manch Jamal Adams and probably the same
with Quadra Diggs, but some people want to bring him home Quandra Diggs,
that is Nino if you will to the Detroit Lions. How you guys telling
about that one? I mean, how much is he gonna cost. I'm
not going out there and spending a starting safety or spending money on a starting
safety who's not gonna start for us. So if he's gonna come in here,
if you can get him on a cheap deal, sure it'd be cool.
It's depth pieast, but we have our starters at safety position. Now,
how's that apply for you? Towards CJDJ said, I think got you
won? Yeah, and see you're bringing him back. I mean, I'm
not giving him the Tracy Walker contract because Tracy just got cut for making that.
If you're gonna sign one of these guys, he signed him to a
five million dollars a year deal. Like get that's cool for me. That
works, bring him back, have the that is a great depth piece to
have either one of those guys. But I'm not looking to pay starter money
to a guy that's not going to start. Nick. I'm right there with
you, spend Mode. I just don't know if Quandre Diggs is the same
player he was when he first went to the Seattle Seahawks. He had three
great seasons, great Pro Bowl seasons in a row, but last year he
had less interceptions. Last past is defended than the previous three years. He's
thirty years old as a safety. I just don't know if this is the
right time to be bringing in Aquandre Diggs. Where when we let him walk
he was still a Pro Bowl talent. I just don't know if he is
at this point to be a non starter for this team. I don't know
if it's the right fit to me. I think that's that makes him effort
for the Detroit Lions, just because you have your start already in Branch.
So like the guy you're bringing in, I feel like you'd want to ask
a depth piece or like, I don't think you're expecting Pro Bowl production.
Obviously, if you get it, that's a plus, but I don't think
it's like your expectation for like your debt piece in the situation, you know,
yeah, I just do not want snaps being taken from guys like Brian
Branch. And that goes for CJ. Gardner Johnson as well, if he
does return to this team. I do want it to be in that rotation,
because we saw what guys like Branch can do last year, a guy
like if he we all know what Kirby Joseph's playmaking abilities are very good for
this defense. So I just don't want to be taking snaps away from these
guys that really helped this defense kind of transform at the back end of last
year. Yeah, I guess like that's the part where I don't know what
he's looking for at this point in his career. I mean, you just
said it already. He's what thirty years old? Is how he's thirty one
years old and he's still maybe in a situation where he can go somewhere and
start. I don't I mean, do you guys think that's the situation he's
looking for. Do you think he's still that caliber player with Andre Diggs?
Yes, I don't think he wants to be a backup. I think he
wants to go somewhere and get paid and start and play games. And in
Detroit he would not he would not They're not gonna pay him a lot,
and he's he wouldn't be a starter on this team. So now I don't
think that's a fit because at the age obviously he's getting cut, he's expendable,
and they're in the Seattle Seahawks eyes right, It's like maybe he is
at that stage in his career. I mean he did fall off, like
Nick said, from like the Pro Bowl years, and I guess the same
could be said up for like CJDJ two is like what is he looking to
do? I guess see a situation where just because he knows what it is
here or he wants to come here and compete. And I think that's always
on the floor despite like how much money was was or I guess where somebody
was drafted, and like the upside of this guy like no, Dan Campbell,
Aaron Glenn and everybody else, like they're gonna give that starting spot to
whoever deserves it at the end of the day. I don't I don't think
that matters. As much as we love Brian Branch. I think that matters
of like the upside of what we think he could be. If if CJ.
Gardner Johnson is out beforming him at camp, he's probably gonn end up
being the starter. But he wasn't. Last year when Brian Branch was a
rookie, they literally moved Chawn Gardner Johnson out of that position because Brian Branch
was performing so well. So I don't think that changes after getting a year
of experience. That's them the beef or not that one. But when the
one with Ivy, yeah, because once if he got the reps and you
know, the defense looked a lot different, a lot different. I'm open
to either situation. But I'm with you guys too, as long as if
you bring back one of those guys, you're not going to be paying them
ten million dollars a year. Like you bring back one of those guys,
they're going to be getting paid as a depth to safety. They're going to
be getting paid as a guy who is the third option when you look at
safeties in the room. So that's what five million dollars a year. And
if you sign one of them for that deal, yeah, I'm cool with
that. Those Either of those guys I would love to have on this team
under those circumstances because they are still great players that if somebody does get injured,
god forbid, you'd love to have one of those guys fill in.
But I don't see Brad Holmes paying those guys starter money to not start just
to fans as Brad Holmes loves them broken toys. I guess you could speak
to the broken toy stuff. We're probably gonn speak to the broken toy stuff.
We come back at six twenty eight. But Demanuel Mosey resigning. But
I don't think CJ. Gardner, Johnson or Quandri Diggs is broken if that's
what you're referring to. He was thinking of Mosley. Yeah, And I
guess I guess rom lost And I'm not like attacking. I guess I'm trying
to get to other standing, Like do you think Chauncey's coming here to be
a depth piece? You think Chauncey's coming here to win the starting job?
Well, see, I mean I think he expects to win the starting job,
but I think Brad Holmes in the front office isn't gonna pay him.
It's a guy who's gonna be starting because they have their starter in place.
They have a starter that they're comfortable with in place, and ifon tu Melifan.
So if you're coming back here, yeah, you should want to win
the starting job and you should be doing that, but you're not gonna get
paid as a starter. And I'm an open market right now? Do you
think Chauncey makes less than Quandre? I think they're pretty similar because what Chounce's
what twenty seven? Yeah, I think they'd be pretty similar what they'd get
paid, just because Quandre has like the resume. Yeah yeah. I mean
if there's similar what they're getting paid, and you think that's something you're willing
to pausented a swallow when it comes like Johnson, gother Johnson, why aren't
you want to do it? Guy? I am just fucking said I am.
If you get them on a contract like that, either of them,
yes, I'll take them. Are just mischief. If Quandre Diggs says,
Okay, I'll take five million dollars a year to go be a backup in
Detroit, Yeah, cool. Do I think he's gonna do that? No?
So if he comes in here expecting to get a ten plus million,
sorry buddy, No, it's not gonna happen. But if you'll take the
same kind of contract that Chaunson Gardner Johnson took last year, sure, why
not? Yeah? I don't think he's geting ten plus million, whether it's
from Uster somebody else. At thirty one years old, I mean, how
many more years can you guarantee, like you said, he fell off just
recently his last year. Yeah, it's not like there was like injuries in
there. He played all seventeen games, which is something that you know,
everyone should value that in guys who he played seventeen games the past three seasons.
And speaking of a guy that hasn't done that, that's Gardner Johnson.
So it's like, and we bring him back on another prove it one year
type deal like we brought in Moseley last year. Is my question with Gardner
Johnson. I don't know if he will come here if he's not like guaranteed
the job. If he wants to work for it, one hundred percent,
let's do it. But I just don't even think Gardner Johnson himself is gonna
get a big deal. If he wants to come back to this Detroit Lions
team, if he likes the the way this team is moving in the right
direction, I bring him back for cheap, one hundred percent. But I
just don't know if he's the kind of guy that wants to come back to
that on a discounted price. Who do you think is gonna be cheaper Gardner
Johnson for the fact that he has not played. Yeah. Yeah, I
mean I almost feel like Quandre is the cheaper one, just because like the
age he's at, and maybe he's not. It's a good question, yeah,
I mean, I mean I don't have I'm not saying who's right or
wrong. I just I just can't really see him getting a bag at thirty
one years old. At this point in his career, he's already kind of
like underside. I think it has to be like the perfect situation, you
know, to play that that nicol spot slash like safety role, which again
that's it's here. Is he ready to do that? Though? I don't
know. I'm trying to think of the top savities in the league, and
like their age is obviously Hymn is the first one that comes to mind,
but everybody else Minca, Minca, which I want to say, he's like
twenty eight, twenty nine probably, Yeah, Like I think I think Quandre
might be at this twenty seven. Minka's only twenty seven. Yeah, that's
amazing, Good for him. That guy's a dog. Now. I think
Quandri might be at that the stage's career he's I don't know if he's mentally
ready to be a death piece but if he's gonna come here, he's gonna
be open to competing, Like, hey, that's would you rather have him
or CJ? Just as a player wise, Pou pomp probably CJ. What
he the younger age, what he brings, you know, emotionally and mentally
to the team. He is more familiar with Aaron Glenn's system and what what
he likes to do. So if you're saying I could get either of them
for the same price tag, I would lean towards Chaunta Gardner Johnson, who
thinks better pop for PO. I think CD do has the higher upside right
now, like Spencer said, because of his age and we've seen the playmaking
abilities that he has in the secondary. I mean, he gets picks every
time he plays. It's just how often can this guy stay on the field.
That's my biggest concern with CJ. And obviously we saw him in the
NFC Championship game Struggle, but that was his I think fifth game of the
season or fourth game of the season. So if he has a full year
under his belt, I got high expectations for a guy like CJ. Yeah,
I'm leaving a CJ too many and I just I really do love the
mentality he brought, and I think that well both answers, you can't go
wrong. I definitely think that CJDJ has some to prove, and I think
he's shown that he really does want to make this work in Detroit for many
reasons, not just for the payday, but I think he embraced the city
and he embraced the position the Lions are in, and so I think the
locker room seems to love him bring him back, Like I'm all for bringing
him back. I don't think it's going to be a crazy price. I
mean, honestly be shocked if he signed for more than what he signed for
last year. I can't imagine it's going to be more. And I know
that it's obviously a depth piece, so you're assuming less off of the injury
and that it being the depth piece. But yeah, man throw him a
money. I don't think he's going to get a contract that's too crazy.
And I think Brad Holmes has shown time and time again he is financially responsible.
So if he PAYSJ Dot CJDJ something, I don't look at that and
then start to question his other his other free agent acquisitions. I think he's
shown that whatever price point he signs a player too, it's going to be
relatively fair to their value. Mm hmm. Yeah, it's not like when
people are I missed all the time. It's not resetting the market or yeah,
I hate whim the habits. I mean, Daniel Jones a perfect examples
for the show. Forty five million dollars for a fucking what reason. I'm
in Ron's a perfect example, right, Like, that's a receiver that,
like some teams, if they were in the Lion's position, would reset the
market with him, you know, a young Pro Bowl receiver like I could
yeah, or All Pro receiver like that's the guy that that's the guy that
you could see resetting the market. But there's no discussion of anything like that
happening with Aman. I don't think. I don't think Brad Holmes plays that
game. So I trust I trust that financially, whoever he signs it is
going to be a fair deal. And you just got to hope for health
and durability. That's the only question. Uh, D N C E and
T and what was sports Chat says, I can see us grabbing a safety
in the fourth or fifth before we signed CJ or Diggs. I think that
makes the most sense, But I also understand that they're in a position where,
like Dan Camill said before they went to the offseason, they want that.
Uh, it's not camaraderie. What is it, like everyone knows what
the hell's going on? Like everything's is already in motion. Cohesion, he
he wants that, And if you're making a Super Bowl run, you value
that cohesion versus a rookie deal. Yeah, probably so, Yes, So
I wouldn't be surprised if CGG comes back. It's probably similar to what the
deal was last year. But I'm also open to a rookie being that situation
too. Yeah. We'll continue talking about the Detroit Lions the secondary when we
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Off, a K Detroit Mario. I will get the phone him in the
chat. You guys wanna call and give your take on the c J d
J versus Quandre Diggs or like DN C and T. You said possibly a
rookie. I would look to chat for a couple of like comments to buy
some time with. And I'm just seeing mandarins and QTS oranges. That's that's
the discussion. We're having fun with quties fuck with QTS too. I think
QUT is the way to go less season. I'm not mistaken. It's the
same thing. Shifts, the same thing, yeah, shift, guys.
Is a lot of teams want CJ. I know fan bases want CJ.
I'm not so sure teams, dude, I mean we'll find out. Maybe
it's the market. Why is that? Yeah, I don't know. I
think the injury history. Not sure. Sure. I'm pretty any other bright
ideas, No, no, because spaces just go take them and spit them
out of control. Digs is thirty one. By the way, Nicolas duncan
but continue the conversation about the detro line secondary. They re signed Emanuel Moseley.
No details on the contract, but it's a one year deal, the
guy that brought in last year to b CB one until he tore his other
a c O first game back from tearing the left a c O. How
do we feel about that? For you? I mean, I got glass
bones of paper skin. You know, every night I break my legs and
every morning I break my arms. At night, I just lie in bed
until the heart attacks put me to sleep. It's it's tough, man.
I I'd love to see the number attached to it. I'd assume it's very,
very very very very very very very very low. Like it better be
very very very very very very very very very low, or I'm gonna be
kind. But it's if you pay him the veteran minimum and he comes in
and he doesn't trip on a play the grass and break his leg, then
maybe he'll be a good addition to his team. You know, if he
can play more than three snaps in a season, he can be a good
player. But fuck Brad, like, there's no downside, there's no nothing
down The downside is he breaks his leg again or he tears his a c
L again and we paid him another deal and he did nothing for us again.
But because the past two years and he hasn't played more than three snaps
it all, and you gave him a second deal. It's not a downside
to pay the guy and him not play at all, because not how it
works. If you get hurt and those one of your deals that is probably
heavily there's heavy incentives when it comes like if you're actually play the games right,
that's one of the things increased the cast basically, like is not going
another downside of this deal whatsoever. You're signing Manuel Moseley, guy who could
be your quarterback one on your team. At the worst case scenario, a
depth piece with you does get hurt. He's not getting paid anything. Crazy.
Who knows if he can be a cornerback one on a team coming off
of two a cl tairs. Who knows if he could play more than three
snaps in the season without tearing another ligament? Like the downside for me is
then being like, Okay, we got Emmanuel Moseley. Now we don't have
to go get somebody else because we got Emmanuel Mosey. And then you have
then you had Kendall Vildors. It was the case last year. It was
the exact same case last year. It was exact same case last year.
Last year, wasn't coming off with two torn a who was the other cornerbacks
gonna sign and be like, yep, we're good here now draft, I
hope not guarded the first round. I hope not. No, it's not
hope. That's what he did off of a cl tair last year and was
like, all right, that's our cornerback one, and then two three snaps
into his seasons, he's down for the rest of the year, and you
have Kendall Fildor playing snaps in the NFC Championship. He's literally coming up with
two a cls. He's not signing him and baking on him to be CB
one and or CB two he did last year' he wasn't coming up with two
a cl tears. Okay, he was coming off with one. It's not
a different scenarios, so different two a cls versus one a c l on
the on the top of my head, on the count of my hand,
I could name you one athlete who has done it, one NFL athlete.
That's Odell Beckham. Okay, so that I could know. But you're trying
to say it's the same as that situation is not at all. He's coming
off two a cls. Brad Holmes is signing him to be the CB one.
I mean there's a hope that he could be the CV one. There's
the upside there, yes, but he's not all right. There is no
thought in my mind, no reasonable thought in my mind, that Emmanuel Mosley
will be the CB one for the Lions next year. That will not Why
you why you acting like then that's the only movies making. Why is that?
I'm not saying I'm just saying I hope it's not. I hope it's
not. You need to bring in a guy who's gonna play more than three
snaps because I don't want to see undrafted free agents playing meaningful snaps in the
NFC Championship game. I don't. I can't see that happen again. And
that's not the case. That's what I'm saying. There's no downside. This
is a depth move. He's not paid a ton of money. It's a
one year deal. He has the upside of being a Stevie one if it
works out. Who's to say. At the very least, I'd rather have
him out there as my death piece than Kendo Willdor. I mean, there's
snaps of him out there going to to toe with DeVonta Adams. That's what
Aaron Rodgers is quarterback like this guy when he's five years ago. But there's
no downside to us. What I'm saying like that, just this is not
a part of the conversation. Like if he gets hurt, he gets hurt,
it's whatever. But the deal is more than likely incentive laden it's probably
a veteran minimum at that I mean, even a little bit more, we
probably could have got Kendall Vildor for the same price that you got at Manual
Mosley. Okay, that's a great deal. I would I would rather No,
you wouldn't, because pund for a better quarterback sitting on the bench in
a hoodie and Kendall Wildor has a helmet on playing snaps. I think that's
more valuable if you've got a guy out there that actually plays football rather than
the dude sitting on the Benchman, that's not a completely hypothetical scenario. Like
a player Emanuel Moseley as a better football player than Kendo Field, you sign
him on a similar or same deal he signed Kendel build or two. Sorry,
Bud, that's a win. There's no downside to whatsoever. It's still
continue to address the quarterback situation. Justice has been rumored in specult the Detroit
Lions will be. The downside to it is he's doing what he did last
year and the year before that, which is sitting on the sideline not wearing
all. Sit here and be upset about it is this. It's just stupid
to me. That just makes no sense. But the downside on the song,
like I'm not even looking at it. I mean, I understand from
because you said you'd paying four million dollars a year, which is absolutely ludicrous.
If he signed a deal it was up to four million dollars a deal.
I think that makes sense if he can, if you stay healthy,
that's what he plays to, if he could stay healthy. In a similar
situation, was signed to last year. He wasn't paid the full amount he
was signed to. It is because guess what, he got hurt. That's
how these things work. You don't just sign your deal unless you're like an
all star guy and you got the guaranteed money in there. There's a one
year proven deal, another one year proved deal that's after he didn't prove it
the previous year. It's a team friendly deal. This is there is literally
no downside to it. There's just nothing to bitch about. There's nothing to
complain about. Still in my cornerback, my emergency cornerback. If if that's
what he is, If he is your emergency quarterback, he's your cornerback.
Three that in case somebody you actually have faith in playing gets hurt, he's
got to go in. I'd rather have a guy that doesn't have two ACL
tears in two years, a guy that played three snaps for you and then
was out for the rest of the year. I'd rather have it be a
guy that I have confidence in that body can hold up and play games if
you need him to. I have absolutely zero confidence in Emmanuel Moseley being able
to play more than two games for the Detroit Lions if you need him.
And I'm not saying pretend like his injury history like doesn't exist. It's it's
definitely like there, but like just sit here and like bitch, like that's
the final move made at the cornerback spot. That's how Brad Holmes Detroit lines
are addressing the cornerback spot where the guy had the two torn acls heading into
a year where they have the mindset of competing for a super Bowl. That's
just as crazy. It's a death piece. It's a one year deal.
It's probably incentive lated where you're like, if he gets hurt or doesn't play
a certain amount of games, certa Mond snaps, the rest of that money's
not being used. Like it's just there's no there's no negative to it.
They're still gonna dress the quarnerback spot for the draft or free agency and or
trade. And I'm still the mind if they're gonna grab I want to say,
a superstar, per se, but a piece that you can rely on,
the piece that you're looking for that's still definitely looking for. You can't
even have him play special teams because he's made a glass and if he plays
two special teams snaps and breaks his leg, what happens next? I'd rather
have if this is a guy, but you don't. This is a guy
you don't want to play? Is what you signed him for? A guy?
Don't understand though, bros. You can still bring in Kendle like he's
signed to such a little situate deal right now? Do we know? We
don't know what it is yet. The money hasn't come out yet. Brother,
what do you think is gonna be? I don't know you were expecting.
There's no way, there's no way. You think it's like a monstrous
deal. He can't bring back he and Kendel Wilder as your debts. Well,
they're not going to. They already let Kendel Wilder and Jerry Jacob's walk.
Well that's not to say that either of jaredy Jacobs. Yeah, he's
probably let walk because he put the fall. Like, okay, I'm going
moving on whatever, there's a there's a world with Kendel Wilder returns to Detroit
Lion. It's okay, Hey, I'm a veteran guy. Let me go
and see my options. Like that's probably what's going on. I mean,
ship went not even to the point where phrasey is hit, where we know
if he's getting brought back or not. But the amount of money they're paying
him, you could pay him, I guess you're talking one to two million
dollars, like four million dollars at most. That's with incentives like this is
I would rather pay that to Kendallvildoor or Jerry Jacobs. But you can literally
bring both of them back. Why would you would you bring all? They
said they want to dress this team with depth, throw money at depth,
and I got all three of those guys, Yes, why would you?
Who's the third guy you're talking aout? Jerry Jacobs, Kendelvildoor and Emmanuel Moseley.
Listen. I wish the best for Jerry Jacobs. Jerry Jacobs had phenomenal
moments here and I'm very proud of what he did here Detroit. No,
but kendallvilldor So you'd rather have Emmanuel Moseley than Jerry Jacobs as as one of
your backup cornerbacks. Yes, absolutely, I see I'm not. I mean,
I've seen Jerry Jacobs of the field. I've seen Jerry Jacobs for the
Lions make interceptions, make plays, make things happen. What I've seen Emmanuel
Moseley do for the Lions is played two snaps and then be done for the
rest of the year. That's fine. I've seen a million Mosy make plays
in the MC Conference Championship two years ago, three years ago. Like it's
it's that's that's what he is. He's a better player pound for pound when
healthy, as the question is, can be healthy, but at a discount
deal that makes no sense to try to be upset about it. And then
on top of that too, you maybe the NFC Conference Championship with Kendo Wilder
at the starting spot. You could bring both of them back discounted and then
still address the quarnerback situation, and then you have like a phenomenal cohesiveness with
guys that know your system. Now with both of them cohesion cohesion Cohesive isn't
the word, because he can we find that out chat. I don't care
either way. Regardless, you have two guys that know your system, both
on discount deals, and you're still gonna dress the quarterback situation again. I
think it's gonna be through trade. I mean, I'm hoping it's through trade
because I got my eyes on Marshawn Latimore. But yes, I'd rather have
him as my backup, and I I can bring them both guys that play
personally. I want guys to play on the field well played. And he
got that deal from Brad Holmes. You trust so much for a reason,
right, because he's pretty good what he does. Oh yeah, And that's
that's a fault to Brad Holmes is he does sign a lot of injured players
and he continues to do that. And the Detroit Lions went to the MC
Conference Championships last year, so yeah, and they would have they would have
gone further if they had somebody other than an unrestricted free agent starting at cornerback
for them. Yeah. I mean, it's just crazy that you can have
both guys and it doesn't hurt you at all. It's just nothing to be
upset about. It really doesn't. You could literally bring back him in Vildor
and then go and get your other guy. But we get back, We
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to go to you Nick because you didn't get to speak on that one.
Emanuel Moses being brought back on the one year deal for the Detroit Alliance just
I mean, you guys had basic all the points on it, but in
my eyes, you got to be ready to play. And this guy is
not able to play for this team if we bring him in, which we
did. Brad Holmes has the medicals on him, so he must think that
he can return from this as a depth piece. That's kind of my that's
my thought process on it. If you can return after maybe week eight,
week ten of next year to help for a playoff push, that is the
only thing that you can maybe expect as like a death piece to return mid
season for a playoff push. I still need two outside corners to be added
to the team. Whether it's through the draft or free agency. So that's
where I'm at with it. I need two guys, one that's on camp
Sun's level at least, and then a one bona fide stud on the outside
going into next season. So I hope Brad has that same mindset, Chris,
I'm with you, easy. I think it's I think it's a good
fair shot. I don't. I don't expect it to be anything more than
midimum. Now, if it is more than the minimum, or drastically more
than minimum, like you said, four million, then I have some issues
with it. But I'm with you. I think it's it's an upside swing,
and clearly that cornerback room needs upside swings, and I think that's one.
Okay, can you count on you know, Jerry Jacobs, Kendall Kendallvilldor
like, those are those type of guys. They had moments here, especially
Jerry Jacobs, but ultimately I was never really convinced that Jerry Jacobs was playing
at was capable of maintaining the level he was playing at. So I see
this as a move that's just a depth piece. Now again, if he
doesn't address it going forward, then yeah, I'm highly upset, But I
feel like this is just a marginal roster move that's really not gonna matter one
way or the other. I really don't think it's gonna be a story.
I don't think we're gonna be sitting here eight months from now talking about the
Amanol Moseley signing one way or another. I really don't. If we are,
I think it's because of a good reason. I don't think we're gonna
be talking about that screwed our season. If we're talking about it, it
means that he actually stayed healthy or stayed healthy for a stretch of games and
contributed to a team that's chasing Super Bowl. Yeah, I'm I'm with like,
at the end of the day, it's such a low risk, such
a low risk. You're not You're not. This is an eight million dollars
deal. This is a multi year deal. It's a one year deal,
like I said, probably at the very most, at the most of the
four And it's not high side and it's a high reward. And if it
works out, we know what he is when he plays. He is a
CB one on a defense that I believe was ranked the number one or number
two before he joined the Detroit Lions. I don't even think that though.
I think after two a cl tears, I don't think you're going to be
a CB one Like, I don't think that upside chance is as high as
you think. Easy. Now, can he be better than Kendall wildor off
two a cl tears. Absolutely, I think that's a conversation that could be.
That can be possible. Oh yeah, like that, that's a possibility.
But to expect him to be honestly even better than Camp Sutton, I
feel like it's is a reach. He's going to be better than camp Sutton,
like Cam I felt works better in his zone. Emmanuel winning and healthy
works better in like like a man coverage, like like AG wants to do.
But we'll see them the line. Man. I mean, there's another
guy talking about I guess contracts and being given out today and guys being released
from the contracts today. We find the name here, oops, wrong sheet.
Darius Williams, the Jacksonville Jaguars, who was second in the league in
past breakups, was released by their team today. I wanted, I wanted,
I wanted. Detroit Lions currently hold his former position coach in the Shade
Townsend at that same position where you guys at with that one. We have
a we have a yeah, let's get that real quick than to I apologize.
Let's go right out to El Gato on his take for about this.
What's up boy, what's up man? Yeah? I got to agree with
Spinny with his mosley. Man, this is just like throwing money in the
toilet. It's like the dudes injured consistently injured. You could use that even
if it's league minimum. That could be like a signing bonus or a roster
bonus for one of the new draftees a million dollars o Gatto. That is
that is nothing, or a roster spot that like Starling Thomas who got cut
coming out of camp, went to Arizona, started for them all year,
but you couldn't have him on your team because he had mostly no, no,
no, it's not even a start on the roster because he's on the
i R. He he didn't take he didn't take up a roster spot either.
It's such low risk. There is nothing to throw a fit about it
is that. I mean, really, you gotta stop. We gotta stop
resigning injured dudes, man, like a hospital. Yeah, I mean that's
the only guy to my mind. I mean, I guess you maybe come
with CJ GJ because he got hurt, but he did play in that super
Bowl. Like I mean, Brad takes risk, but like he's a he's
a discount shopper, that's we got he wants to get. He is Maclamore.
He wants to grab those discount pieces in the drafty or a star pieces
of draft and I guess signed like discount guys around that. But this is
such a low risk man. There's there's nothing to be upset about this that
you could have him and Bildor and then still grab the guy you want to
be your CB one. This doesn't stopping you from doing any of those things.
I just don't want to see us lose somebody coming out of camp that
would be a good piece that could play multiple positions, that can do things,
play special teams, do other things like that. A guy like that
that gets cut and man and Moseley's on the roster and then he doesn't.
You know, something like that happens like it has the past two years.
Well, again, he's not gonna start the season. He's gonna start the
season on my rs. Just leave him there. Sign him when he's ready.
I just just makes this. I don't understand being upset about this at
all whatsoever. There's such a low risk and then there's the upside to it.
It makes zero sense to be upset about this guy. I really don't.
It's not stopping you from doing anything. It's really not especially you have
like the whole like free agency has him get to hit, and then you
have the draft. And I'm not saying I want to rely on a rookie
to hold down cbe one. I don't think that's what Brad Holmes wants to
do either. He quite Blake told us like, hey, we're going to
address the needs through free agency. This is not stopping you for doing that.
I just I guess that's the part I don't understand. And if you
want to say, Okay, well we were starting starring Thomas, Okay,
what is starling? I meant started seven games for Arizona last year. It's
just better than three snaps played in the season. But guess what was taking
that roster spot. Starring Thomas didn't make the team. It's not that he's
a star, like starling Thomas coming. I did like starling Thomas, but
like this, that's decision they made. It's not like starring Thomas is star.
It's just a guy I would like to have on the team as a
versatil piece and a guy who's killing on the special teams. Yeah, we'll
just we'll just figure it out. I mean, we'll see. I just
have no faith in him being anything for the Detroit Lions at all. That's
fine, and I think it's just a waste of space on the roster.
No, that was kind of mean. That's not a mean saying waste of
space, but yeah, no, but I have no faith in him being
a contributing factor in any means for the Detroit Lions at all. I think
you're right to point out that it's more so the spot than the money,
because obviously a minimum is a minimum. So like to me, I'm with
Spencer and kind of like the roster spot actually mattering to me more than the
money. And that's where and that's where the risk, I guess would be.
I know you can obviously cut a minimum guy, no problem, but
you know this is a team that again, if you're compete for a super
Bowl and you're building a team specifically the way Brad Holmes and Dan Campbell are
with depth mattering, then every roster spot matters because you are not you know,
you're not doing a team where it's like where it's like we are signing
twenty four elite guys and then we just pray to God that they stay healthy.
That's not what this regime is. This regime is is every single man
on this team mattering, and so these roster spots, you do got to
look at them. Steven Gilmore last year took a roster to eat your lines.
Do you guys remember been playing a single snap? No, would have
loved to see him on the side. Do you remember his contributing factors?
Let's see, did he play the special team? I don't know if he
played. If he played on special teams, that's more than what Emanuel Mosley
did for the Detroit Lions. Chase Lucas and he definitely plays. He played
special and that's more than taking spot for no reason. How about that Martin
number number, your third not your third overall pick, but your third round
pick, taking a roster spot for no weekend just to be inactive. He
played more snaps than Emmanuel Mosley. That's a fine got hurt, so did
bugs. You can't expect it to happen, but that those are two I
mean bugs. Did he flip and flop throughout the practice squad and why end
up like just losing No, I think no. Bugs actually maintained his roster
spot too, But those are roster spots from guys that are healthy and not
play I'm not I'm not crying over that either, Like I think we're just
picking up things to have an argument here first, just like realizing what it
is. It's a low risk, high reward, only had a roster spot
for three games, so I don't even know if that counts. That's just
like a practice squad guy. Yeah, Rodery Martin, same situation, practice
squad guy. It's just it's a it's no there's no hurt, there's no
negative to it. I'm looking at this guy even know was on the team.
Mitchell a guaude, there's no way. Probably a practice quest. I
think. I think it's a future contract that was signed. I'm looking at
right now. This is like not last year's depth art. But either way,
it's it's not it's not really hurting me. It's not hurting us enough
for it to be throwing the fits over. You can still go get your
CB one or it may end up being CB two. However you may look
at it. This isn't stopping you from doing that. It's just giving you
depth that when it comes down to these big games, when he's finally is
healthy hopefully can stay healthy. You's it's a big I'm not putting my faith
into Emmanuel Moseley in It's fine, but you're also not wasting too much of
anything to have them there. Like it's just I don't know, it's just
is a silly argument to me. Uh Darius Williams though, for filling roster
spots at the cornerback spots specifically, I'm done. Yes, a little bit
undersized, but he does play that outside cornerback spot. Was second in the
league last year at past deflections had foreignerceptions on off of that, I think
it's sixteen past deflections a previous year. I mean, this is a guy
that balls out, maybe undersize. The only thing. There's three things I
can see where he doesn't end up in the Detroit Lianes roster. One,
he just get we just get outbitted for him. Money money, money matters,
and obviously we know Brad Holmes. We got Emmanuel Moseley, so we
don't need Number two is probably the biggest one for me. It's just the
I don't know if he fits the scheme of what AG likes to do well.
Obviously know age he's been very vocal about wanting to play that man coverage.
Number three actually thrown there. Two is Brad Holmes type of cornerback,
Like obviously he's take another chance on Manuel Moseley. You look at the history
of guys he signed, it's been those longer like the longer, rangier guys,
Emmanuel Moseley. I guess Cam Sun's at five to eleven two. I
think Mike he is probably the smaller, the smallest guy he signed beforehand.
Like Brad Holmes seems to like these longer guys. AG likes the bigger guys
too because he wants to play that main coverage. That'd be the only mix
up for me. But I guess to Darius Williams, this guy balls.
This is a guy. Yeah, like you said, he's a small guy.
He's five to nine. Last year was the first year he moved from
that nickel spot to outside cornerback. He felt very comfortable playing in that spot
in camp and going forward. He had a great season. He had a
great season. He was a top I think ten ranked corner after Week fourteen
in the NFL, where he was not allowing much. He only allowed like
five catches for forty two yards and had about five pass breakups from Week fourteen
on. So this is a guy who plays well on the outside in the
limited time that he's done so in the NFL. Like I said, last
year was the first time they kind of moved him outside, and he said,
I like being on an island. I like doing that. I like
going out there. So we'll see. I don't know if this is a
Brad Holmes move. I don't know if he's had enough injuries in his career
to be notunched. But this is a guy who's proven last year that he
can be an effective outside cornerback. We talked about you talked about adding or
defensive passing game coordinator for the Jacksonville Jaguars, So this is a guy he's
familiar with as your new cornerbacks coach. Is this move that Brad Holmes would
make? Is this move of some he brings in. Time will tell,
But I wouldn't be mad if they went out there and got him proving.
He proved last year that he can do it. He proved last year that
he can be on an island out there. And it's not like the Jags
had an elite pass rush last year. I mean, they had Josh Allen,
who's pretty he's pretty damn good. But it's I mean, when you
look at what the Lions can do on pass rush, I think it's pretty
similar to what the Jags did last year. So I don't think there's too
much of a drop off going from that. But this year, coming into
this year, what I expect the Lions to be is at the very least
what the Jags were last year, with a new defensive line coach, hopefully
adding another piece on that defensive line, and Hutchinson coming into his own.
So we'll see. But no, I wouldn't be mad at that. He's
a little small for my liking, pause but I like him junks, But
you know, five nine is a little small for an outside corner. But
he proved that he can do it last year. So remember, uh,
Brent Grimes. I think he was played like Miami Dolphins. I don't forget
he jumped up fight and I was like, goddamn. I mean, listen
to friend Grimes at a insanity run. For sure, I think, well,
he's drafted like twenty eighteen, you only allowed like fifty five percent completion.
I mean, I'm again, I think this is a guy I don't
know how much to be paid, but may you grab him and still grab
somebody else in the draft? Like I was not like a depth and that's
what Brad. That's so exact word that Brad used. Brennan did not great
size. No, he does not have great size. But it's not about
the size of the dog in the fight. It's about the side of the
fight and the dog. So we'll see he's got small size. His Danny
gets. Yeah, he's a small guy. He's five to nine. So
again, I don't you You pointed out that Brad does like those longer,
rangier corners, and I like big cornerbacks as well. So but he's proven
that he can play outside in the NFL. I think everyone does really right.
If you're looking for somebody almost at any position for football, it's like
if it's a big guy, you're like, oh, yeah, I guy,
you know it's first taken you played football in high school and even though
college you stepped off the bus or the team stepped off the bus. The
first thing you're doing is sizing them boys up, Like I got Terrence kind
of big six four four hundred and fifty pounds. That's a big boy.
Insanely you couldn't move, but that's fucking four hundred and fifty pounds. Oh
yeah, dude, he was. Actually we had a gully that too.
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Spimo, Rex Young, Chris Nicholas call off AKA Detroit Mario. That's kind
of what I got Twitter going today, was Darius Williams, And I know
we kind of went half that segment a little bit of tangent from the previous
one, and I guess we're gona do the same here. But I want
to give Nick a chance to be on this, when you get Chris a
chance to be on this, and maybe you guys want to call on and
reach them your comments too. How would you feel about Darius Williams being a
man? You know what, I think Williams gets this startering role. Yeah,
I think Williams would be the starter immediately. I mean talk about the
epitome of production thirty five passes defended the last two seasons. I mean,
yeah, he's an instant upgrade of what we had and I think he's better
than Sutton, so it immediately moves him to that cornerback too. Slot.
Maybe it's a little scary going up against guys like Jefferson, maybe a guy
like I'm blanking on Watson from Green Bay and Dj Moore. You know,
maybe that scares you being a little bit smaller of a cornerback. But I
would love this signing. This is the type of guy that this team needs,
and like a guy like Fuller. You know, if we are going
to go depth and not that absolute star, let's bring in a couple of
these guys and you know, have a little rotation going. That's what I
think. I would absolutely love this ceiling, this signing of Darius Williams.
Chris, where you at? I mean, look, after a I'm good
with it, but I'm at the mindset of like I'm sorry, I just
I want to swing for the fences. I want to get that corner easing
that We're on the phone after the show show yesterday and I was talking about
you hang out, No, you hang up your stomach so you can't wait
on draft night, drift? Come on, how do we get a lot
of that's crazy we got as a drop. But no, the way,
the way, the place I'm at with this is that I don't see it
as a need necessarily. I know that Brad Holmes can find that bargain bin
and that seems like what we're going to be going for here. But I've
just always had it. I've just always had a thing for elite corners and
I love I'd love for us to either get one that you know, fills
the gap this year and draft one that we believe we can groom into an
eventual one or two on this team. But you gotta start to revamp this
cornerback room for the long run, right, like you gotta you gotta make
some changes here. Yeah. I'm another thing too with this guy you want
to talk about having, like Brad Holmes speaking about like they want to know
these people, they want to like have they want to be comfortable paying these
people dinner with them. Yeah, whatever you said, I could even hear
that. Yeah, But in twenty eighteen, this guy's breaking to the NFL
as an undrafted free agent with Brad Holmes and reagnuew with with the Rams,
and then obviously you have the Shaye Townsend two. So I mean it's definitely
there. Again. My only question really is like the fit of schematically is
like, is Age you gonna just finally go over to the full time zone
or at least embrace going zones because I don't know we had the pieces to
do man, like he finally gonna go over to the Duck Center. To
be honest with you, Bro, I've been defending Glenn but that's a little
gripe. But I might have start having with him too. I get your
philosophy is man coverage, I get it. I get you done tremendous things
in New Orleans like as that too as a secondary coach, but it's not
working here and we don't have the pieces to do that here. Yeah,
concede do what Ben Johnson did. And I'm not saying Ben Johnson had to
go up against anything because he kind of started with Jared Goffin had that mind
set like, hey, okay, like I can't do sweet shit with Jared
goff all the time. I'm gonna have to draw some sick. I'm gonna
have to make the team offense, like you work with what you got.
What's that saying that I say is like, hey, you've got a great
player but doesn't fit your scheme. Change the scheme. Yeah, I'm on
AG's as a little bit with this one too. Is like Cam Sawton,
Okay, you have this guy's available to you, guy that previously coached them,
previous relationship, Brad Holmes. He's gonna be thirty one by the time
start of the season two of Donald that changed anybody's like opinion on him or
probably the price tag. But like, let's fucking go to a full time
zone scheme. If that's what we're working with at this point, I don't
hate it, but you have the amazing talent of Emmanuel Moseley, so you
don't need to do that. No, but I'd rather them stick at the
scheme they're at. I'd rather them do that and then go out there and
get somebody that fits that scheme because none of the cornerbacks you have right now,
are worth adapting your scheme over Like you said, no, that's fair.
You made the argument if you have a great player and the scheme doesn't
fit, you change the scheme. You don't have a great player, yeah,
at cornerback right now, So you don't change the scheme to adapt to
Kendall Wildor and Jerry Jacobs, Like you go out and you get a better
player. Though, and I'm fully with you, like, we don't have
that one player that you just changed the scheme for that it makes sense.
I remember being a little back and forth a little bit with Aiden Hodgson wanting
to stand up versus his hand in the dirt with ag and his rookie year.
But if you know it, it's more than just having like one great
player to change that scheme. It's also like, hey, I don't have
the fucking players to run the scheme I want to run. How about I
put them in the best position to succeed. It's like if I have a
freaking But also what zone is just so you can't consistently play zone in the
NFL. You can't. You'll get picked apart by That's what they're doing nowadays.
Though. That's why that's how you got to play keep in front of
you and no, everyone's everyone's his zone coverage. That's how we That's how
you defended each alliance because we eat in the middle of a field. The
zone coverage. Yeah, but nobody's defended the Detroit Lions do well, except
and that was because they were in Golf's face every second. So I don't
think it's the zone or the man that is how you defend the Detroit Lions.
I think defending the Detroit Lions is attacking them and getting to Jared Goff.
Well, I don't know, because that's that's the plan they had against
the Buccaneers too. But Golf just he knows where's going to be, so
he gets the ball to him. Yeah, and I think the blitzer,
the blitz, it's dead narrative at this point because he's just so intuitive,
like with what they got going on the offense side of the ball, that
he knows where everyone's going to be. But it don't matter if that ball
is fucking flopping over there. He just know somebody's gonna be there to catch
it. You have to if you're going to play zone, you have to
bracket your zone with an elite pass rush because if you have games like the
Detroit Lions, where quarterbacks are sitting back there with four seconds to throw the
ball and you're sitting in zone coverage, that is not going to work.
I don't necessarily agree. I like pass rush is more. I guess you'd
want that more in a man cover situation because you don't want you guys to
get beat at the certain amount of time we watched it here in Detroit.
Guys get beat if you're not gonna get some guys guys. Yeah, either
way, you're facing world class athletes the wide receiver position. Also, guys
will find the hole in the zone. If I guess either way, you
need a good pass rush. Yeah, I don't think. I don't know,
man, I'm just saying to to a g I don't like. I
don't like just playing zone at all like all times. I don't think that's
a good idea. Well, no, I'm obviously gonna mix it up.
You mix up everything throughout the game. But I'm just saying, if you
don't have the ingredients to cook up what you want to make something different,
go get the ingredient. But we we fail to do that three years now.
I mean, I guess son who will send it to the grocery store
shop and he works the offense and go get that picking fresh fruit. Go
get the ingredient in in in your secondary. He's not going to bring on
the main course. Like I mean, I don't know what express you want
to use, but it's like you don't want to se sexist reference or should
not go there. Do it absolutely all right. If I'm a no hard
business and I have freaking I won't go the way it How about do this.
I'm on over construction and I hired Nick and I hire Spencer. I'm
not gonna go ship Nick. I'm carrying way more rocks than you. You
know what I'm saying, working buddy, yeah, mix work in front of
house. Yeah, I'm back a house exactly. Nick's pushing paper, You're
pushing fucking paper, boulders. But that's just like that's I'm not you know
if that's like, I don't know, that's that's how I see it.
Though. The boulder feels conflicted about fighting a small blind girls. Have you
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just how I look at it. Man, I'm not gonna go ask Nick
to go, you know, push three hundred pounds worth of fucking rocks versus
if I have a Spencer tel player, I could push three hundred pounds of
rocks and I could fucking sorts some papers. I'm better with. Uh,
I'm more of a I'm more of a people person. In the back you
put them on the back, Yeah, exactly, back of the house,
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web sports Chat. We'd sports dot com, smash the light button, be
a friend, tell a friend, shit a stream and gets a little bit
of hockey Detroit Robbies Hockey before we have our special guests on, Ryanhanna from
the Wing Wheeled Podcast, and I guess one get understanding from Uspinny. I
know who delmarkt is, I know del Markin's stats, but I'm not that
well versus hockey to know what he brings the team and what we're gonna be
missing in his absence in this this next two weeks without him, You're gonna
be missing your captain. You're gonna be missing a guy who's on a point
of game pace. You're gonna be missing one of the most important players on
your roster, a guy who plays PK, a guy who's who's on the
power play, one, one of your best faceoff guys, the guy who
stirs the drink. Like. It is not a small loss when you lose
a guy like Dylan Larkin. He does a lot for this team. He
means a lot to the guys on this squad. Like. It's not something
that you can easily replace. So yeah, it's it's not gonna be fun
playing without Dylan Larkin for a couple of weeks. We need him to rest
up, we need him to get healthy, and we need him to come
back ready to go because he is one of the best players on this team
for a reason. He is almost at a point per game, And man,
it sucks sucks not having Dylan Larkin in the lineup when you're trying to
fend off some of the teams in the East for that first wildcard spot.
But I think the Boys to be able to get it done. I think
we've got a lot of talented players on this roster. I think they'll be
able to overcome this setback. We've got a stretch of games where in six
games you need to get eight points at the very least. So what is
the missing most is like the passing, the shoot. Larkin is an all
around player. He does everything pretty well, and so you're gonna you're gonna
miss him a lot in the faceoff zone because him and Confer had been money
this year, you know, at the dot. So you're gonna need somebody
to step up, whether that is Volano or or whoever. Andrew Kopp steps
up at the dot. But having him as your power play one center was
impressive because he got He won a lot of those face offs. He won
a lot of things that you need and that are extremely important. But you
guys to step up flat out when you lose your captain, when you lose
a point per game. Guy, it's gonna be hard to overcome that,
but you're gonna have to. You're gonna have to for at least two weeks.
Nick, I guess the biggest thing for me is how does this team
respond this time? Because last time when he got hurt against Ottawa on the
Whome ice, after that we struggled. There's no doubt about it. I
mean, Patrick Kane was just coming in. This team was not as you
know, kind of rolling as they are now. I mean, obviously we're
coming off two straight l's. Hopefully we can get it back against Colorado,
but it's looking like three straight l's here, especially on their home ice.
So it's gonna be hard. But it's how do you respond? Playoff teams
respond. We've seen teams fumble and struggle. I mean we saw it last
year. We went into Ottawa, lost two massive games, and then this
team crumbled down the stretch and we ended up selling. I do not want
to see this team sell at all. But I guess I know we're gonna
have Ryan Hanna on and a little bit here. I know we're gonna ask
him all about the trade deadline. But I do not want to see this
team sell, unless it's maybe to bring up some younger guys that they actually
have faith in for the playoff push. Yeah. I just don't want to
see this team crumble and fold. Like earlier in the season, when Dylan
Larkin was hurt the first time, just a fan in the Woter Sports,
she had made a great point some with the face offs are vital, especially
on penalty killers and power plays especially. Think about like how great this Detroit
Revenue team has been on special teams. I mean a lot of their goals
and you correct me if I'm wrong, have not a lot of them come
off those those power plays like that that's where they eat. So it's like,
damn that actually now I'm thinking about that way, yeah, because this
is a top ten special team both units in the league. That's actually that
that's that's actually fucking hit me one hundred percent. That's me say that stuff.
Yeah, because because yeah, it's true, man, that that is
your guy, that that is one you'll like. Him and JT Conford both
have been lights out in the dots. So you're gonna need somebody to step
up until that role because JT is not gonna be able to do it by
himself. So who who is it? In your eyes? Spencer? I
know you talked about, like we've talked about who's gonna step up in physically
be in his position his position? But who are you expecting from this team
to take the biggest step forward and really kind of handle the responsibility? Is
that the veteran Patrick Kane is who do you see? I think Lucas Raymond
in the point scoring aspect, not just directly, you know, at his
position, I think it's gonna be Lucas Raymond. He needs to take a
bigger role Alex to bring it. Obviously, you're gonna need your guys who
are stars to be stars and make up for that. But when you look
at centers, I think Andrew Copps the guy that you're gonna need to step
up. I think Andrew Cops going to be the guy that you need.
Like he was a captain on Michigan, he was a guy that's done a
lot of different things, and he's had a pretty good NHL career so far.
But I think he's the guy that's gonna need to step up and be
no please, no, no no. If Andrew Cops our guys, he's
gonna be to step up. Yeah. I mean, great answer in a
sense that he needs a step up. But we might be in some serious
trouble if we're depending on Andrew Copp right now to be that guy that does
step up. I don't know if I can see it in Cop. I'm
not saying step up like scoring points. I'm saying technically being a center as
a leader, winning face offs. You need to score points. You need
your point scores to score points. You need Alex to brink It to score
points. You need Patrick Kane, Lucas Raymond, Robbie Fabrie. You need
those guys to score points. But as a guy who is a leader and
a guy to win face offs, I think Andrew Copp is a guy who
needs to step up. Yeah, I think you're right on him needing to
step up. I just don't know if he will step up. I don't
have faith in Cop personally. I do like the depth of this whole entire
lineup to step up. But the guy that I highlight just specifically is Alex
to brink It. He needs to go on that run that he started the
year off with. I know Larkin was the guy that was feeding him a
lot, So maybe Cop can step up in that role a playmaker to feed
guys like Alex to brink It. But he needs to start this extraun of
games like he started the season when he had nine goals and I think it
was seven games to start the year. He needs to get on a hot
streak like we've seen him do in the past. If this team wants to
remain competitive, especially when it comes to playoff time. Yeah, Rich Baldwin
with sports Chat, wing's going to go get a big Russian he posed.
I mean yeah, Like I said this, this injury is not going to
change what Steve Eisman was doing at the trade deadline. I could promise you
that he's not going to make a panic move to go get somebody to replace
Dillan Larkin for two weeks. That's not gonna happen. So if he was
getting a forward, he's still going to get a forward. If he's getting
a defenseman, he's still going to get a defenseman. If he wasn't going
to do anything, he's still not gonna do anything. This is not going
to be something that's Steve Eiseman is not a guy who panics in the face
of adversity. Steve Eisman is stone jawed, iron will. Then this is
not going to make him flinch. He's gonna do what he had planned to
do already. Is another like kind of dumb but simple answer to this being
Alex Lin and goal who was who was on an absolute heater and then the
last couple of games has some goals like is it as simple as if he
can if he can get back to his high standard, and the Wings can
get two to three goals in a game and etch out these one to two
wins or these two to three wins, like like, that's got to be
a factor, right, Like, I mean, the defense needs to play
better, That's what it is. I don't think it's on Alex Lion.
Alex Line has been seeing a lot of breakaways in the past two games,
and the Florida Panthers are no slouch there, one of the top four teams
in the NHL, so you need to be aware of them. And against
the Islanders, he saw a lot of uneven breaks. The Islanders spent a
lot of time in the Red Wings zone, and the defense did him no
favors. So I think Alex Line is still Elex Lion. The defense just
needs to tighten up a little bit. And that's why I've been preaching that
we go after a top five or top four d man at the trade deadline,
and I still hope they go after some whether it be Chick Ran or
Hannafin or whoever it is. I'd like this he's a forward, but I'd
like to see them go after a top four d man to tighten up that
rotation even more than how about guncl now that no, no, you don't
need a forward. You got enough forwards, not like Larkin going down or
be like I said, that's not going to Larkin going down for two weeks
does not change your your motive attack at the trade deadline. It's two weeks.
Is not something that you're like, Okay, I'm gonna go after and
get a Jake gunzil because Larkin's down for two weeks, what am I gonna
do. Like by the time you get Jake Gunzel in here and get him
acclimated with the team, Larkin is gonna be back. So I don't think
that that is something that sways that. So I'm I'm not worried about them,
because I talked about the stretch of games that the Red Wings have coming
up where in their next six games, four of them are against the Sabers
and against the Coyotes, And those are two teams that you should be able
to beat, you know, minus one on the puck line, like you
should be double. You should be beating those teams by least a goal.
So I'm not worried about that as much I think Larkin is. I think
they'll be fine without him because of the teams they play in the stretch they
have and guys like Patrick Kane and Alex to brink It who are showtime,
who are big name players. They'll be able to step up and carry the
ship until Larkin's the what's the minimum point threshold you're looking at for this for
this team over this stretch of without Larkin, let's sancho that we get back.
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we're also joined by Ryanhanna from the Wingo Podcast talk about the Detroit Red Rings
and the injury to Den Larker for two weeks. What up, Ryan,
Thanks for joining. Man, Hi, we're going guys. Thanks you.
Oh, of course, it's always a pleasure to do. Let's go at
good before the injury a little bit there. How how do you things go
affect the team? Man? And then a playoff run or playoff race?
Yeah, look, there's no it's never a good thing when you're tapped in
your best player in your first line centers. I was playing and simple.
We've seen it with Detroit before earlier this season in December when market went out,
Like, no team gets better when that kind of player gets injured.
So Detroit's gonna have to dig deep. The good news is, and we'll
talk about this their schedule like it's not easy, but you're playing some teams
Buffalo twice, Arizona twice in Pittsburgh, like you're playing teams that you should
beat, Like you want to be a playoff contender, you should beat them
even without Lark And so they have an opportunity, but you know they'll have
to do it. It's not guaranteed. Yeah, that's how I keep saying,
Like having the Yoats and the Savers four times combined in your next six
games is kind of a blessing. But who when you look at who you
think is going to come up to the big club after the lark And injury,
there was a bunch questions. Is it going to be CatSper because he
wasn't on the Grand Rapids lineup sheet, But it turns out that he was
just dealing with an injury as well. Who do you think is going to
be the guy that gets the call up? He is gonna be Sarnick,
Is it going to be bergran Who do you think comes up now that Larkin
is is out for a couple of weeks. I think they're going to try
to rock with their group, Like Joe Blino is going to slot up and
play in Larkin's spot at least to start to see how he does between the
Brincon and Kane that doesn't work, you'll probably see a bunch of different mix
of line combinations to try to find something that cricks like it's it's hard around
this time of year to pull a guy up and ask him to take in
a big role, even if you want him in a deposition like it's not.
You know, Casper's not had the time in the NHL where he can
come in and do that. They're trying for the playoffs and Grand Rap is
also doing something really important over on the west side of Michigan as well,
So I think they're going to try to roll with their forwards and see this
through seven games potentially is a long time. But if they can avoid calling
someone up, I think that's the angle Detroit's going to try to take.
Do you think it changes cbise approach the deadline at all? No, No,
I don't think so. And for the reason that I don't think Steve
Eisman was in the business anyways of bringing in you know, rentals, like
anyone he brought in would either have to be like a low cost player who
fits a need for the team, or you know, a bigger move that
is, yeah, helpful for this season, but also looking medium and long
term, so a player with term or a player that you can sign with
term. And you know, Detroit is a playoff contender this year, but
they're not a Cup contender, so it's it's good to get your team into
the playoffs. I think it's important. I think Eisman's really passionate about that.
I think that the organization is from a business side and a competition side.
But you can't put the cart before the horse there, that makes sense.
So if you're going let me ask you this, if you're going to
you know, maintain and not make any moves out as a reaction to this
move coming at the trade dead, looking forward to this two week stretch,
Spencer alluded to the schedule. What's like the minimum threshold the points you're looking
at the Wings coming away from to keep this playoff chase alive and to feel
comfortable about the wings position. I think five hundred's fine. Honestly, Like,
if you lose Dylan Larkin and you come out of this like these seven
games with the five hundred points percentage, you know that's completely okay. Detroit
has the mats in their favor. With the standings right now, like,
even with having lost lost two games, they're in the first wild card seed.
They have games in hand on Tampa Bay behind them, And yeah,
the Islanders are making chase, but you know, Philly also factors into that.
Detroit's strong January and February gave them this cushion. So if they walk
away with a five hundred points percentage, like, I think that's you want
to win more than half your games, but I think that's great. And
even if they walk away with a little less, it's not like they're out
of it and the sky is falling. You'll have to see what the teams
around you have done. But if they can tread water and come out of
this seven game stretch, I think we're talking about competitive games in mid to
late March and even beyond. Hey, Ryan, Patrick Kane was on an
absolute heater before these last two games, and he still did score one against
the Islanders, but it looks like he's been just a step slower and honestly
just not on the puck as smoothly as before. Is there anything that stood
out to you about Patrick Kane the last couple of games. Yeah, you
know what, Detroit as a whole didn't play well against the Islanders. First
off, I think that was a winnable game for them. I think they
didn't get the goaltending they needed to kind of keep them in that game even
when they had their defensive lapses. And Detroit also seems to struggle against teams
that are like good off the rush and hard checking teams. The Panthers were
a masterclass in being aggressive on the puck, aggressive on the body. Their
PK was phenomenal, and really anytime Detroit did get an opportunity, they usually
kept the perimeter or if they broke through. Sergei Lebrovsky was unbeatable. So
I agree Kane, you know, wasn't able to be effective against the Panthers.
He had a couple of breaks that didn't go his way. But I
think it was more of a team thing in Detroit as a team generally struggles
against those styles. And I don't want to, you know, throw up
the flag or anything or go back to all the soft swedes can't get it
done like we used to hear, But does that concern you at all going
into the playoffs? Is that the Red Wings have been known to struggle against
bigger teams against more physical teams. We all know playoff hockey's at a different
level. And when you look at the two teams at the top of the
Eastern Conference, one of these teams you might have to see. Whether it
be New York or Florida, they're both pretty damn physical. Like, I
do not want to see Truba in the playoffs. Are you concerned by that
at all? You know what, it's just the reality of it. You're
not going to dodge it. So I agree with you. I don't think
the Red Wings are really ready to come into a series against you know,
a Florida example, and be at all favored to win more than a game
or two. But they're not going to get there until they learn what playoff
hockey's like. And that's why Steveuys, I mean, is so intent on
getting this team into the playoffs, like they need to experience it. That
game recently was, I think was a good test. I think they are
going to probably take hopefully a playoff series, but the very least that game
against the Panthers and similar ones into account when they consider the kinds of players
they add to their team. You don't want, you know, just Bruisers.
If you're not just going to go out and add like a matt Renpi
clone for no reason, although that'd be cool, the guys massive, it's
it's about the guys you have, Yeah, but also how the team has
to play. And you know what, for as much as Florida might piss
you off, as a fan of the Red Wings, like you have to
admire how they're able to walk that line. They know when to cross it,
they know when to pull a team out of their game. The players
that Detroit has now they can learn to do that better. Ryan two losses
an energy to our captain after the priority pad came. When can we start
talking about a curse here? You know what I've I've made my opinions on
patches, on jerseys clear on the wing Wheel podcast. There's no good jersey
ad. I think they suck. I think that was the sacred line that
was inevitable the NHL was going to cross. I hate that they did it.
You saw it coming from a mile away. I think I think I'm
happy as a watching the Red Wings for as long as we did without it.
Honestly, the league is complicit in this, but you know, it's
sort of the players, like the players aren't agreeing to this without or like
this doesn't happen with that the players agreeing to it, and they're getting a
huge financial incentive. They don't care either. So it sucks, man.
It's just like it's all across the NHL. Though it sucks for fans.
It's just it's what the modern NHL is. It's what modern really pro sports
are. It's gonna happen everywhere. Yeah, I think we gotta start getting
discounts on these jerseys if we're buying them. We're just we're just advertising these
things for free. That's that's the one part is like does this sit right
with me? Is like Priority give me a free jerseys. I'm gonna rock
this Priority patch myself. Like that's why I don't like, Man, I
want to put together an ad package. Yeah I will. I'll give my
guy Brady. But I did want to ask one more thing about the deadline.
I don't know the NIXT got of the question too, is since we're
not buyers just because the CBI timeline, could you see us being sellers by
chance? With them on death we have in a way, Yeah, I
think I was then like, here's the thing they can buy or they could
sell now or in the off season. I don't think you can confidently say
they're they're not one or the other. I think the Red Wingers are going
to have to do some un nodding on on defense. In terms of the
defensive contracts they've had, Justin Hall's name has been the one that's been out
there most commonly, even like even just with the raises coming for Cider and
Raymond, and then you want to bring back Kane and then you know you
want to bring back Karan that's rumored. You have to make other moves,
like they're gonna have to shed some caps. So I think they're going to
find a way to get rid of a defenseman, most likely Justin Hall,
and then like what happens. It's hard to predict that they're going to,
you know, move a Shane gossis there or Daniel Strong for example, because
they're important for this team right now for this playoff push, and I think
Eisaman would rather have those players for this push rather than you know, a
late second round pick or something. Not that that's a bad asset, it's
a good asset, but they also have one of the best you know prospect
classes in the NHL, so it's a little bit of immediate reward versus potential
later reward thing. I don't know that Detroit's going to sell just to sell
one of those guys that you did not mention there. Ryan is a guy
in Joeveleno that I expect to have to step up with the absence of Dylan
Larkin. He is a restrictive free agent going forward. What do you think
a contract looks like for him? Or do you think he is in this
last season as a Detroit Red Wing. No, he's He's a restricted free
agent. He does have arbitration rights, and so that process might be decided
that way, although it's never really good for the player team relationship when they
go that direction. You know, pretty commonly across the NHL, if a
player goes through arbitration, they're gone from the team pretty soon after. I
think of Tyler Bertuzzi, I think you can look at something similar to what
Michael Rasmusen got. You know, four years tens three point two might come
in a little bit under. They're not too far away in age. He's
having himself a great season. He stepped up in a big way. I
think the Red Wings would do well to sign a player like Vleno long term
and keep him, and I think they're interested in that too. Like he
plays a premium position. He plays the Red Wings way. He's young,
and they probably can get him relatively cheap. It's it's much better to do
that rather than try to find that kind of thing in free agency with an
older guy who's more expensive. Ryan, we appreciate you joining as always.
It's always great to have your knowledge on and to talk some hockey with you.
And before we let you go, and you know, you shout out
the winged wheel pod and everything right like that. I just got a quick
NHL question. Do you think we're gonna see Sid in a different sweater?
And because they've been talking about it a lot, and that would be wild
in a different sweater than the Penguins. Yeah, you know what. I
asked the question on our show too, just for the sake of asking it.
At the end of the day, we are I think Sid is cut
from the old clock of NHL players. He's had a lot of success to
like, you know, a few cups and obviously he wants to be competitive,
but I think he's retiring a penguin. No matter what, I don't
see him as a cup chaser. He's he's too loyal and I think he
wants to retire a penguin, which is boring. I think it'd be great
for the NHL if SID went somewhere else, But I think the last thing
we need to see is Colorado more stacked than they already are, So I
won't complain too much. He's would be crazy. I would not like that,
Ryan Man, I appreciate you joining us. How about you give a
shot out to your show and the next time you guys beyond everywhere else people
can catch you. Yeah, definitely. So. I'm one of the hosts
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Heavyweights? What man, yo, what's guns going on? Oh I'm good.
Listen. So this is my thing on j right. I don't care
about keeping him. I want someone like what do I mean by that?
I want someone that actually we have some any humble guys on this team,
Like I love me from Brian Brand she's too quiet, I love me if
he's too quiet, even Hutch out there just quiet. Like we need someone
that like is out there talking to smack, running around doing it, you
know what I mean. Like, I just feel like that's what our defense
needs. Now. I'm not saying it has to pay him, you know,
but that's why I would want him back, because he brings that to
our defense. You know, I'm tired of all of these put your head
down, go to work. Well we're all quiet kind of guys, you
know. Like I want someone that's like, is about business, if that
makes sense. But that's all. That's all I wanted to say. I
hope you guys have a great day. Appreciate appreciate man. Thanks calling him
brother, Uh, big supporter always in the chat, and I'm with him.
You need dogs. You need dogs on that defense, and Chohnson is
definitely a dog out there. So if you bring him back, I'm cool.
With it, depending on you know, the size of the deal.
But if I would like to get more guys that are that are cut like
Chauncey Gunner Johnson as well, Yeah yeah, I just recon Straw and a
couple of interviews he did, and he's a big trash talker obviously, brings
like the physicality you want to see out of a Detroit Lion or that become
a customers scene out of Detroit Lions. But now it's looking like he might
drop in that draft a little bit. He may become that. But if
he's gonna be that on this team, I'm gonna I'm gonna keep it real
with you guys. Who better to have around as that veteran leader than c
J DJ to help him like talke that line, although next does talk the
line fairly well, like he's the one that got the Chicago Bear to punch
him, he's the one that got his teammate to punch him, and all
like the escapades he's brought along. But I wouldn't be surprised. Tables,
oh the turntables. No turntable. And it's just we only have two safets
in the roster right now. And if he's willing to play in that rotation
then like yeah, bring him back. Wait m PW Was that really Dan
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Batman animated series Goaded, Batman Beyond Goaded, Justice League goated. What do
you think about the patents and Batman? I loved it, Benson, Yeah,
yeah, it was a great movie. I don't know if he like
killed it per se, because he didn't say no. I think he did.
He had like fourteen lines in the movie. Can't get my hot take
off when it comes to Batman. I like that one better than Dark Knight.
And I know that everybody all right, but yeah, here's here's a
why. Hear me out, No, hear me out. I'm not mad
anybody that disagrees. But the reason I like it is because that that Batman
is so much more realistic to me than the Batman in Dark Knight. Like
this guy is like a playboy billionaire in Dark Knight, and he's like smooth
with everybody. No this if you if you have the trauma that Batman has,
you're gonna be fucking It's it's a different he's already better than for a
while. Yeah, get rid of that drop fucking five minutes Man in Dark
Knight, he's already been Batman for a while. Batman in The Batman,
he's only been it for like a year or something like. Okay, you
know what, then? I do like that the Batman. I like that
he's more of a detective because that's what he is. He's the world's greatest
detective. And he's also a billion of a playboy ninja. But it's they
definitely leaned into more of the detective part of it in The Batman, which
I like. And also it was just scary how real like that like Riddler
villain could be and how he just like inspired on some dark web corner.
That freaked me out. I will say that that probably I guess that messed
with me. I guess as an actor, you'd have to give it to
Joker as like the best villain. But like for plot wise, that was
the best villain and the ship that he did, yeah, because that's level.
Yeah, that's the actor. He was just in the dumb money that
came out to about the whole like stock thing. Isn't that Netflix already?
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of tonight? It's fifty k. What's first thing you're doing? A damn
probably take it next week off and I'm going on some sec gass vacation.
That's probably the first one like that. What would you do if you had
a million dollars two chicks at the same time, man, I would do
that for damn sure? Uh, you know what? I would do nothing.
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already says BAM fifteen plus Rosea fifteen plus Ivy fifteen plus BAM eight boards,
K six assists take nineteen uh Fontechio two plus threes. That's a plus seven
ninety parlay. I'll ride, I'll take it. I'll probably add K fifteen
plus of that, and I might just leave it at that. To be
honest with you, I like the font Techyo two threes. I might put
K two threes. We'll be shooting threes though like that. Sometimes sometimes he
just he's all about the mid range and attacking the ribs and he shoots like
three threes. I think I might be trying to just get back on track
with a win. Here. Plus seven ninety seems a little too raw rich
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that into about a two point seven mili money line on the Pistons baby getting
out of here? Would you do it for real? No? No,
but I would. I would set aside a honestly. Yeah, honestly,
that is the best thing you've ever said to me. That's the nicest thing
you've ever said to me. That's a realized friend right there? Fifteen?
Is he been scoring like that this year? Yeah? The thing that worries
me is are the starters going to be playing in the fourth cour No,
That's where I'm worried. I don't. I don't do what Miami I'm gonna
do. I like the Terry ro zero one, Terry Terry rozeero guards always
tear the pistons up. But you know what, Bam is good for fifteen
points? If Wiseman plays four minutes, that's true. That's a true statement.
What do you say, BAM's good for fifteen points. If Wiseman plays
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