WEBVTT 1 00:00:03.000 --> 00:00:08.679 It's time for coffee and Company, fueled by Thornton's on Sports Talk seven nine 2 00:00:08.759 --> 00:00:13.039 day. Now here's Nick Coffee. All right, let's get it started, 3 00:00:13.119 --> 00:00:17.480 Ladies and gentlemen, Hour number two Here on a Wednesday afternoon Coffee and Company 4 00:00:17.480 --> 00:00:21.079 fueled by Thornton's on Sports Talk seven ninety. If you've not tried the new 5 00:00:21.120 --> 00:00:25.079 hot Honey Chicken items at Thornton's, make sure you you do that, because 6 00:00:25.079 --> 00:00:27.359 I don't think they're going to be around forever. They do that from time 7 00:00:27.399 --> 00:00:32.960 to time, they'll they'll give us something that is amazing, like the pizza 8 00:00:32.960 --> 00:00:36.159 wedge, which is like a pizza quesadilla, and it'll be kind of like 9 00:00:36.159 --> 00:00:39.640 a seasonal thing. And a lot of restaurants actually do that, like fast 10 00:00:39.679 --> 00:00:42.359 food places, and there's got to be a method to it. And it's 11 00:00:42.399 --> 00:00:45.000 probably, you know, something I wouldn't know because I'm not, you know, 12 00:00:45.079 --> 00:00:47.960 in that business. But again, they probably won't be around forever, 13 00:00:48.200 --> 00:00:51.079 So go try some of the new hot Honey Chicken items over their Thorntons. 14 00:00:51.600 --> 00:00:54.119 All right, So what a day it has been? What a what a 15 00:00:54.119 --> 00:00:58.320 two week run we've had here? I don't know, I don't know what 16 00:00:58.399 --> 00:01:00.840 word I was struggling to find there. But I mean, I mean the 17 00:01:00.880 --> 00:01:03.079 Louisville coaching search, I mean, it really wasn't that crazy if we think, 18 00:01:03.159 --> 00:01:07.640 if you think about it, like the optics of it weren't good, 19 00:01:07.879 --> 00:01:11.400 but the drama, like I think it was pretty minor. I mean. 20 00:01:12.079 --> 00:01:17.359 And in the end, here we are, what two weeks in today of 21 00:01:17.400 --> 00:01:19.799 the Pat Kelsey era, and I feel like he's off to a great start. 22 00:01:19.920 --> 00:01:22.640 I think we all know we got to wait and see if this guy 23 00:01:22.680 --> 00:01:26.560 can win some games. But obviously he is checking. He is checking the 24 00:01:26.840 --> 00:01:30.760 boxes that you need to be checked in this time, in this moment right 25 00:01:30.799 --> 00:01:34.400 saying all the right things, making it quite clear he's going to embrace the 26 00:01:34.439 --> 00:01:38.640 craziness that comes with this job. And he's got some visitors coming in this 27 00:01:38.719 --> 00:01:42.400 weekend. So one of the in fact, two of the visitors are actually 28 00:01:42.480 --> 00:01:45.359 guys that are already committed. And these are guys that are not visiting to 29 00:01:45.439 --> 00:01:49.920 meet this coach because they know him really well. That's Rain Smith, who 30 00:01:49.079 --> 00:01:53.560 is a transfer from Charleston, as well as James Scott. Those are the 31 00:01:53.560 --> 00:01:57.200 two guys that followed Pat from Charleston to hear and then the others are Dante 32 00:01:57.200 --> 00:02:00.680 Maddix junior, the Toledo transfer who is considered Ring five schools Louisville, Creighton, 33 00:02:01.359 --> 00:02:07.000 Illinois. I can't think of the other two. But either way, 34 00:02:07.080 --> 00:02:10.080 he is, uh, he's, I mean, he's he's a really good 35 00:02:10.120 --> 00:02:13.560 player from the MAC that a lot of big schools want. And I don't 36 00:02:13.599 --> 00:02:15.599 know if I believe it or not. You never really know what to believe. 37 00:02:15.599 --> 00:02:19.080 But there's some that think that he's actually already given Louisville a silent commitment, 38 00:02:20.080 --> 00:02:23.080 which maybe that's true, maybe it's not. Maybe he's kind of in 39 00:02:23.199 --> 00:02:25.439 but wants to visit first before he gives, you know, he gives coach 40 00:02:25.520 --> 00:02:30.000 Kelsey the full green light. We shall see and then Chris Youngblood is a 41 00:02:30.000 --> 00:02:34.000 new name that I'm familiar with just because, again I watch a lot of 42 00:02:34.039 --> 00:02:36.560 college basketball games that most people don't. I don't say that to brag. 43 00:02:36.599 --> 00:02:38.039 I say it because I don't have much of a life. You know, 44 00:02:38.080 --> 00:02:42.159 I watch I watch South Florida play. This year. They were a good 45 00:02:42.199 --> 00:02:45.479 story just because of, you know, the the phenomenal season they had in 46 00:02:45.560 --> 00:02:51.080 year one for coach Abdul Raheem. But Chris young Blood has been a I 47 00:02:51.080 --> 00:02:54.240 mean, he started Kinnesas State with coach of du Raheem, and then he 48 00:02:54.360 --> 00:03:00.159 was the co American Athletic Conference Player of the Year. He's he's a six 49 00:03:00.280 --> 00:03:04.360 four guard, put up some big numbers last year and he's also in the 50 00:03:04.400 --> 00:03:09.000 portal and we'll be visiting this weekend. And another visitor, according to rivals, 51 00:03:09.439 --> 00:03:13.800 Nick Boyd from Florida Atlantic, another guard from fau So. I don't 52 00:03:13.800 --> 00:03:15.319 know if these visits, you know, obviously it's a good sign that there's 53 00:03:15.400 --> 00:03:19.240 there's this level of interest from these kind of players, But you know, 54 00:03:19.280 --> 00:03:22.599 I think these are all guys that could realistically help you get off to a 55 00:03:22.599 --> 00:03:25.400 good start here in the Pat Kelsey era. But even if they did land, 56 00:03:27.000 --> 00:03:29.520 let's see, you know, three of these guys, Nick Boyd, 57 00:03:29.599 --> 00:03:32.879 Chris hung Blood and Dante Maddix Junior. That would give them, I guess 58 00:03:32.879 --> 00:03:37.159 a total of six players and you still have, you know, seven to 59 00:03:37.159 --> 00:03:38.680 go, which is exciting. Obviously a lot of work to be done, 60 00:03:38.680 --> 00:03:44.800 but I think there's something about a completely different I mean top to bottom, 61 00:03:44.960 --> 00:03:49.360 new staff, every new player. I mean that not to say that I'm 62 00:03:49.560 --> 00:03:52.120 happy to see everybody leave. I think there was some good players on last 63 00:03:52.159 --> 00:03:54.039 year's team. But either way, like just something being brand new like this 64 00:03:54.599 --> 00:03:58.840 gives it a level of excitement that that makes me happy. You know what 65 00:03:58.840 --> 00:04:00.960 else makes me happy when we can bring in our man, mister Kent Spencer 66 00:04:00.960 --> 00:04:04.159 from w h S eleven. I mean, let's just go back to last 67 00:04:04.159 --> 00:04:06.439 week. If I'd have told Ja Caliperi, he's on his way out, 68 00:04:06.439 --> 00:04:10.080 he's gonna go to Arkansas. I mean, what would have been your reaction 69 00:04:10.199 --> 00:04:17.079 then, Kent? I think I think then it would have probably been like, 70 00:04:17.680 --> 00:04:23.040 I think you're crazy. I don't think it's gonna happen. But it's 71 00:04:23.079 --> 00:04:28.639 so funny once it like broke on Sunday night, and you know, it 72 00:04:28.720 --> 00:04:33.839 felt like this was definitely gonna happen. I reached out to a few folks 73 00:04:34.519 --> 00:04:40.600 and I knew he had interest in Texas last year. Yeah, I knew 74 00:04:40.600 --> 00:04:45.920 there was real interest there that he had in Texas. And then I was 75 00:04:46.040 --> 00:04:48.279 told and then one of the one of them, I think the CBS articles 76 00:04:48.360 --> 00:04:50.759 kind of backed up at least one of the schools. Then I was told 77 00:04:53.199 --> 00:04:58.839 this year he had interest in Ohio State, Michigan and SMU. Wow, 78 00:04:59.040 --> 00:05:01.199 Now that's a don't mean there was contact or anything like that. But he 79 00:05:01.240 --> 00:05:05.759 at least was interested in those spots. I mean it means he wanted out 80 00:05:05.839 --> 00:05:10.759 right, Yeah, it means he wanted it out And look, and so 81 00:05:10.759 --> 00:05:13.920 so many times I think after the fact, like you look back and you 82 00:05:13.959 --> 00:05:15.519 were like, oh, this was always going to be the end result, 83 00:05:15.639 --> 00:05:19.879 you know, but you don't see it and in real time. But I 84 00:05:20.360 --> 00:05:25.800 still remember that joint interview that he had with Mitch Barnhart a couple of weeks 85 00:05:25.800 --> 00:05:30.040 ago. It was one of the more awkward interviews that that anybody's ever seen. 86 00:05:30.879 --> 00:05:34.199 And Mitch Barnhardt ran that interview. He was the one who was in 87 00:05:34.279 --> 00:05:42.920 control. And does that feel like John Calipari at all? Like, wh 88 00:05:43.639 --> 00:05:46.439 when John Calipari is at his best, he looked like a hostage kid. 89 00:05:46.399 --> 00:05:49.639 Yeah, he's the one who's running the show. You know, he's the 90 00:05:49.680 --> 00:05:55.079 one who who he tells you what he's going to do, You don't tell 91 00:05:55.160 --> 00:06:00.439 him. And so this thing had just completely flipped on him. And you 92 00:06:00.439 --> 00:06:03.319 know, you look back at that interview and just kind of everything and you're 93 00:06:03.360 --> 00:06:05.879 like, all right, I could I could see this happen and I could 94 00:06:05.879 --> 00:06:11.800 see this this be at the end. What do you think led to the 95 00:06:12.199 --> 00:06:15.079 and I wouldn't even really know how to describe it. Maybe dysfunction wouldn't be 96 00:06:15.079 --> 00:06:17.759 fair, but maybe just a lack of relationship. I don't know Mitch Barnhart 97 00:06:17.759 --> 00:06:21.480 well at all, and in fact, I've met him once and I think 98 00:06:21.519 --> 00:06:25.000 he seems like a really fine man. I feel like he also seems like 99 00:06:25.000 --> 00:06:27.839 a guy that it would be hard not to have somewhat of a decent to 100 00:06:27.879 --> 00:06:30.920 good relationship with because maybe I just maybe I'm getting the wrong vibe from him. 101 00:06:31.199 --> 00:06:33.879 How did he get to the point where those two just didn't work, 102 00:06:33.920 --> 00:06:36.519 didn't have a relationship. I mean that to me that it's one thing if 103 00:06:36.519 --> 00:06:41.600 you've got a very brash ad who maybe wants to make sure everybody's aware that 104 00:06:41.639 --> 00:06:44.000 he's the boss, and maybe Mitch is that guy. But I just that's 105 00:06:44.040 --> 00:06:46.560 that's clearly a component to this whole thing. And I'd never really understood why 106 00:06:46.639 --> 00:06:51.279 there was such a you know, distance between those two. Well. I 107 00:06:51.319 --> 00:07:00.879 think I think that John Caliperry was not Mitch Barnhurst's choice, and both of 108 00:07:00.920 --> 00:07:04.360 them, deep down they knew that, you know, Lee Todd, who 109 00:07:04.439 --> 00:07:10.839 was the president at the time, after the Billy Gillespie disaster at Kentucky. 110 00:07:11.079 --> 00:07:15.600 Lee Todd was the one who said we're we're talking to him, and Mike 111 00:07:15.639 --> 00:07:20.839 Pratt was was with them, you know, And and Mike Pratt actually told 112 00:07:20.879 --> 00:07:24.399 me that you know, he was, he was in the meeting, you 113 00:07:24.399 --> 00:07:27.959 know, with all of them in Chicago. That was a that was a 114 00:07:28.000 --> 00:07:30.920 Mike Pratt Lee Todd thing. That was not a Mitch Barnhardt hire. And 115 00:07:31.000 --> 00:07:34.839 so I think deep down you always knew that, you know, most of 116 00:07:34.920 --> 00:07:43.279 their time together, they always had somebody in between them, and it started 117 00:07:43.319 --> 00:07:46.360 early well it and it and to be quite honest with you, before Dwayne 118 00:07:46.399 --> 00:07:49.000 Peevee, it was Rob Mullins, who's now the a d at Oregon. 119 00:07:49.199 --> 00:07:54.879 Like there was always somebody even before Peev, there was always somebody in between 120 00:07:54.920 --> 00:07:59.959 them. You know that that really is no longer there. I don't think 121 00:08:00.079 --> 00:08:03.079 in that and that athletics department. I think that you know, they were 122 00:08:03.120 --> 00:08:07.920 they were trying some some some last minute stuff here and maybe the last six 123 00:08:07.959 --> 00:08:11.839 months or a year, But after Peev, there really wasn't that person there, 124 00:08:11.680 --> 00:08:16.120 the real go between, And I think that's why you see, you 125 00:08:16.160 --> 00:08:20.439 just saw things just continued to get worse so it doesn't shock me that those 126 00:08:20.480 --> 00:08:24.319 two you know, didn't have a relationship or you know, and and and 127 00:08:24.399 --> 00:08:28.279 despite what they said in that interview, it was it wasn't good and it 128 00:08:28.319 --> 00:08:33.480 never was good. Yeah, you could read the the the vibe from that 129 00:08:33.639 --> 00:08:37.879 entire situation, and it just it seemed uncomfortable on both sides. And Mitch 130 00:08:37.039 --> 00:08:39.840 was trying. But I don't think Cal could physically try it if he wanted 131 00:08:39.840 --> 00:08:45.200 to, just because of the level of I guess just you know, lack 132 00:08:45.240 --> 00:08:48.559 of relationship and and and that makes a lot of sense just because I think 133 00:08:48.559 --> 00:08:52.919 we've learned with Cal he's a very very very very much loyal It's all about 134 00:08:52.919 --> 00:08:56.080 loyalty to him. And I think once he knew that the A D what 135 00:08:56.679 --> 00:08:58.440 once he was aware that that wasn't who he wanted to hire, meaning that 136 00:08:58.519 --> 00:09:01.159 like he was his first choice. It's probably something that just knowing Cal and 137 00:09:01.159 --> 00:09:05.159 how he's wired, that's probably somebody he's never gonna forget. Like it's just 138 00:09:05.159 --> 00:09:07.799 something that always stuck with him. And you know, it's it's unfortunate because 139 00:09:07.840 --> 00:09:11.120 I do think he was the perfect guy for that job in every way. 140 00:09:11.279 --> 00:09:15.240 And whoever takes over, if it's Scott Drew or whoever else you know, 141 00:09:15.519 --> 00:09:18.960 he checked, he checks some boxes there that when it's rolling, it's it's 142 00:09:20.080 --> 00:09:22.120 like it's like nothing I've ever seen before. I think Patino did the same 143 00:09:22.120 --> 00:09:26.200 thing when he was there. Uh. And I think Kentucky fans we were 144 00:09:26.279 --> 00:09:30.159 ready for a change, and I think it's good. It's good for everybody. 145 00:09:30.200 --> 00:09:31.519 I think that's the initial reaction once the shock we're off, you realize 146 00:09:31.559 --> 00:09:35.360 this is this is best for everybody involved. And I sincerely believe that. 147 00:09:35.720 --> 00:09:39.120 But you know, when he was good with cal there, man, they 148 00:09:39.120 --> 00:09:41.279 were they were on top of the world. Yeah, I mean his first 149 00:09:41.279 --> 00:09:45.399 six years is you know, you don't get much better than that. I 150 00:09:45.399 --> 00:09:50.279 think probably his you know, other than Patito's you know run there. I 151 00:09:50.279 --> 00:09:54.000 don't think you get better than than what Cali Perry did in those six years. 152 00:09:54.000 --> 00:09:58.000 Obviously, you know, Dan Hurley's like, hold my beer, I 153 00:09:58.000 --> 00:10:03.559 do the next four years Yukon, but specifically at Kentucky, it's it's it's 154 00:10:03.600 --> 00:10:07.120 hard to get you know, as good as they were that first six years. 155 00:10:07.159 --> 00:10:11.159 And and look, you know, things things happen over time. And 156 00:10:11.399 --> 00:10:15.679 I think one of the you know, one of the things that somebody would 157 00:10:15.720 --> 00:10:18.120 have said. If you would have said, like, can he turn it 158 00:10:18.159 --> 00:10:22.120 around at Kentucky, I probably told you I said, yeah, he can, 159 00:10:22.279 --> 00:10:24.720 but you know, you got to he's got to make some changes, 160 00:10:24.559 --> 00:10:30.000 and he's got to be willing to make some changes. And I think, 161 00:10:30.080 --> 00:10:33.320 you know, he he's got a lot of dysfunction on his staff from from 162 00:10:33.360 --> 00:10:35.799 what I've been told, over the last you know, year or so, 163 00:10:37.399 --> 00:10:39.799 that needed to get cleaned up. You know, you've got to get you 164 00:10:39.879 --> 00:10:43.480 got to get more organized. And you know, from what I've been told, 165 00:10:45.000 --> 00:10:48.279 he's taking a lot of that staff with him to Arkansas. So I 166 00:10:48.320 --> 00:10:50.200 don't know if it's going to get fixed. You know, he will be 167 00:10:50.320 --> 00:10:56.120 motivated, and he's always really motivated. I think he'll be really motivated in 168 00:10:56.240 --> 00:11:01.159 recruiting at Arkansas. But you know, he didn't lose recruiting battles. He 169 00:11:01.279 --> 00:11:07.440 lost in preparation up to games and then the execution of any kind of preparation 170 00:11:07.639 --> 00:11:11.080 in which they did. I guess we'll have to know who the Kentucky coach 171 00:11:11.399 --> 00:11:16.480 is before you could answer this question. But let's just say it is Scott 172 00:11:16.559 --> 00:11:18.799 Drew, which I think most people assume that it will be not saying that's 173 00:11:18.879 --> 00:11:22.559 for certain. But who would you say, in the next five years has 174 00:11:22.600 --> 00:11:26.320 a better chance to get into a Final Four Scott Drew at Kentucky or Caliperry 175 00:11:26.320 --> 00:11:35.960 at Arkansas. I would just because Cali Perry has taken that same staff. 176 00:11:35.159 --> 00:11:39.360 If Scott Drew takes the Kentucky job, I think Scott Drew at Kentucky. 177 00:11:39.840 --> 00:11:45.320 Yeah, do you think that's who it's gonna be kent I mean, if 178 00:11:45.360 --> 00:11:46.639 you ask me right now, who I think it's gonna be. Yeah, 179 00:11:46.840 --> 00:11:52.120 I think it's gonna be him. But you know, for the like I'll 180 00:11:52.120 --> 00:11:56.360 say this, Nick, for the last couple of years, kind of the 181 00:11:56.399 --> 00:12:01.600 word around that program was whenever Cali Perry leaves, that's who it's gonna be. 182 00:12:01.559 --> 00:12:05.559 And you know, it dates back to the bubble and and and Mitch 183 00:12:05.600 --> 00:12:09.840 Barnhart and you know, and and Scott Drew, you know, getting a 184 00:12:09.879 --> 00:12:13.279 relationship together, and you know, and and that one and a friendship or 185 00:12:13.279 --> 00:12:16.799 whatever. So it's always that's always kind of been the scuttle. But okay, 186 00:12:16.840 --> 00:12:22.080 well, you know, keep gone now you have you know a chance 187 00:12:22.120 --> 00:12:26.840 to you know, for Mitch Barnhart, honestly, he's made one basketball coaching 188 00:12:26.919 --> 00:12:33.960 hih at Kentucky it was Billy Gillespie. His entire I missed that guy as 189 00:12:33.960 --> 00:12:39.120 a Louisville fan, just saying he he he, that's the higher that he 190 00:12:39.200 --> 00:12:45.679 made, and his entire legacy depends on what he does with this higher. 191 00:12:45.879 --> 00:12:48.879 So he's got to get it right and so and he's also probably gonna go 192 00:12:48.960 --> 00:12:54.639 with his number one gut choice, and so he's gonna throw everything that he 193 00:12:54.679 --> 00:12:56.840 can at Scott Drew and let's see what happens. Yeah, And and to 194 00:12:56.919 --> 00:13:01.600 Mitch's defense, I mean, the there's clearly a relationship between the two. 195 00:13:01.840 --> 00:13:05.759 There's I mean, maybe you'd call it favoritism, but like either way, 196 00:13:05.759 --> 00:13:07.519 they have a relationship. They're friendly. But it's not like he's just you 197 00:13:07.559 --> 00:13:11.200 know, calling his fraternity brothers seeing if he wants a new gig. He's 198 00:13:11.240 --> 00:13:15.919 friends with a guy that won a national championship in the last three years. 199 00:13:16.000 --> 00:13:20.039 So, I mean, I think it makes total sense, and I think 200 00:13:20.080 --> 00:13:22.360 that Kentucky fans in a little bit of a way, it's not the same 201 00:13:22.399 --> 00:13:26.840 search at all for a variety of reasons. But you know, when you 202 00:13:26.879 --> 00:13:28.559 have such high standards and you live in your own world at times as a 203 00:13:28.600 --> 00:13:33.360 fan of these high level programs. You can pick apart any candidate, right, 204 00:13:33.440 --> 00:13:35.080 Like, I mean, you could eat you know, Dan Hurley's got 205 00:13:35.120 --> 00:13:37.480 all the juice right now, but like you could easily look from top to 206 00:13:37.480 --> 00:13:39.679 bottom and find something that maybe wasn't as impressive. And I think some Kentucky 207 00:13:39.679 --> 00:13:43.399 fans have probably done that with Scott Drew. But I mean, I don't 208 00:13:43.399 --> 00:13:46.000 think anybody would tell you that that's not a great coach. And you know, 209 00:13:46.480 --> 00:13:48.840 I'd be highly shocked if he didn't win at a high level if that's 210 00:13:48.919 --> 00:13:54.960 him. Well, and you also try to project right, like you know, 211 00:13:54.000 --> 00:13:58.399 we have done this, We did this a couple of weeks ago with 212 00:13:58.440 --> 00:14:03.279 Pat Kelsey and Louisville. Like he's one, but he hasn't won on this 213 00:14:03.679 --> 00:14:07.840 on this stage. So we're gonna see what he can do on this stage 214 00:14:07.600 --> 00:14:11.600 giving much better resources, you know what I mean, Like, we don't 215 00:14:11.639 --> 00:14:16.240 know the outcome, but he has one and he has built programs at a 216 00:14:16.279 --> 00:14:22.000 couple of previous stops before he comes to Louisville. You know, with Scott 217 00:14:22.080 --> 00:14:26.639 Drew, you know he is one on the biggest stage of them all. 218 00:14:26.879 --> 00:14:31.639 You know, he's he's won an NCAA championship at Baylor that was in shambles 219 00:14:31.679 --> 00:14:35.960 when he first took the job. So he's built that program up from the 220 00:14:35.120 --> 00:14:39.440 from the rubble. Everybody knows he could recruit both high school talent and he 221 00:14:39.480 --> 00:14:43.720 can go get transfers from the from the portal, which is something that you 222 00:14:43.840 --> 00:14:46.919 have to do in this day and age. So you know, you kind 223 00:14:46.919 --> 00:14:50.639 of just project and say, well, it's probably easier to recruit at Kentucky 224 00:14:50.720 --> 00:14:54.000 if you know, there's a lot of things that go in your favor if 225 00:14:54.039 --> 00:14:58.120 you're at a place like Kentucky. So what could he do with that? 226 00:14:58.480 --> 00:15:01.240 I would imagine that he could do very, very well. But and you 227 00:15:01.279 --> 00:15:05.000 and I have talked about this. Look, when Chris Back didn't work at 228 00:15:05.039 --> 00:15:07.559 Louisville, I have given up on the fact that somebody is a home run 229 00:15:07.639 --> 00:15:13.360 higher. Yeah, I mean, that's I'm with you, because when it 230 00:15:13.399 --> 00:15:15.639 was, it was all the things that like, you know, we didn't 231 00:15:15.639 --> 00:15:18.360 know we needed as Louisville fans, Like he was a little more relatable. 232 00:15:18.399 --> 00:15:20.679 He was, you know, a guy that didn't take himself as serious as 233 00:15:20.759 --> 00:15:24.559 Rick Patino, and you thought that was refreshing. And then you know, 234 00:15:24.600 --> 00:15:26.919 when he didn't win a game or he lost the recruiting battle. You know, 235 00:15:26.039 --> 00:15:28.519 I better not see his asst roosters eating wings. He better get off 236 00:15:28.519 --> 00:15:31.879 the lake and start recruiting. Like it just and it just it it actually 237 00:15:31.919 --> 00:15:35.159 that I'm glad you brought that up because I think whenever you know, I 238 00:15:35.159 --> 00:15:39.720 don't want to say fans turned on on Mac because clearly things were not going 239 00:15:39.720 --> 00:15:43.799 well. But I think there's a level of knowing that when you know when 240 00:15:43.840 --> 00:15:48.919 you have a Patino and a Crumb, and when Kentucky has cal and you 241 00:15:48.960 --> 00:15:52.039 know Rick even Tubby to an extent, when you know you've got a guy 242 00:15:52.080 --> 00:15:56.840 that's struggling, but you also know he has done the ultimate thing, which 243 00:15:56.879 --> 00:15:58.879 is when a national championship, I think it kind of keeps the crazies in 244 00:16:00.039 --> 00:16:03.200 these fan base is a little bit balanced. And you know, with Scott 245 00:16:03.279 --> 00:16:04.799 Drew, you know he does have that title. But I just I think 246 00:16:04.919 --> 00:16:07.600 it's not that I know him personally, but I understand why some think, 247 00:16:07.600 --> 00:16:11.039 Okay, this is a larger than life job. Is he a larger than 248 00:16:11.120 --> 00:16:12.200 life guy? But if he wins, none of that matters, right, 249 00:16:12.240 --> 00:16:17.000 Like it only matters when things aren't going well. Correct. Here here's all 250 00:16:17.039 --> 00:16:18.840 you have to do. You have to recruit and you have to coach. 251 00:16:19.799 --> 00:16:23.799 If you do those two things at a high level, and you're able to 252 00:16:23.799 --> 00:16:27.279 stand on a podium and hoist a trophy and yell and scream at the fans 253 00:16:27.279 --> 00:16:30.519 in the arena, they'll love you. Yeah, you've got to be able 254 00:16:30.559 --> 00:16:36.200 to do those two things. You know. The other stuff is just like 255 00:16:36.240 --> 00:16:40.000 an added bonus. The other stuff, to be quite honest, is what 256 00:16:40.120 --> 00:16:44.840 makes your job easier on the radio. Absolutely my job in the television studio. 257 00:16:45.519 --> 00:16:48.639 But look, fans just want you to win games. If you're if 258 00:16:48.679 --> 00:16:51.039 you can win games. But you know, if you if you go out 259 00:16:51.080 --> 00:16:55.159 and beat directional schools by twenty and are you know, in the hunt for 260 00:16:55.200 --> 00:16:59.440 your conference championship every year and making deep runs and march the fan base, 261 00:16:59.759 --> 00:17:02.840 you know, by and large, they're gonna love you. It doesn't matter 262 00:17:02.879 --> 00:17:07.400 if you're a lightning rod. You know who The best example of that is 263 00:17:07.240 --> 00:17:11.160 Bobby Vitrino. The man was a robot to me, I don't. I 264 00:17:11.160 --> 00:17:15.440 mean, he didn't show a whole lot of personality, didn't do it. 265 00:17:15.480 --> 00:17:18.200 You know, clearly was hot at times, but like he didn't have a 266 00:17:18.400 --> 00:17:21.240 there was not a lot of relatability there. But when he was rolling and 267 00:17:21.319 --> 00:17:23.880 Louisville was putting up sixty points a game, like nothing seemed to matter. 268 00:17:25.519 --> 00:17:29.880 And then when it felt you're referring to Bobby one point exactly exactly. Yeah, 269 00:17:29.920 --> 00:17:30.920 no doubt about it all. Right, So you just the last question 270 00:17:30.960 --> 00:17:33.839 for you just mentioned sort of like things that'll make our jobs a little bit 271 00:17:33.839 --> 00:17:38.000 easier. The fact that these two programs that have such a big following, 272 00:17:38.839 --> 00:17:41.200 and you know, not only just in this region, this area, but 273 00:17:41.240 --> 00:17:45.640 obviously two of the bigger brands in the sport. They're starting fresh and not 274 00:17:45.720 --> 00:17:48.759 only with new coaches, could be entirely new teams. Louisville, I think 275 00:17:48.839 --> 00:17:51.880 is going to have that. Kentucky. I guess we'll wait and see. 276 00:17:51.880 --> 00:17:55.160 But like that's good for that's good for you guys in television, right, 277 00:17:55.200 --> 00:17:56.559 Like I think there's going to be a level of like you know, press 278 00:17:56.559 --> 00:18:00.400 conferences and you know, just a lot of the stuff that you guys do 279 00:18:00.480 --> 00:18:03.440 that there'll be I think more of a desperation to see it just because it's 280 00:18:03.440 --> 00:18:06.880 new. It's exciting. They want to get to know more about these players 281 00:18:06.880 --> 00:18:07.759 that are brand new and they're going to want to get to know more about 282 00:18:07.759 --> 00:18:14.279 their coach one hundred percent, one hundred percent. And so you know, 283 00:18:14.319 --> 00:18:17.680 when things are when things are going, you know, well there's always an 284 00:18:17.720 --> 00:18:19.079 interest, Okay, how can you keep it going? Well, but when 285 00:18:19.160 --> 00:18:22.920 things are being built from the ground up, you know, and I at 286 00:18:22.960 --> 00:18:26.720 the moment, you know, I look at Louisville as being built from the 287 00:18:26.720 --> 00:18:32.559 ground up, you know, like you know, at at Kelsey's introductory news 288 00:18:32.559 --> 00:18:36.640 conference, it was Kelsey and that was it. Yeah, no staff, 289 00:18:36.880 --> 00:18:41.319 no players, nothing, And so now he's starting to add to this thing, 290 00:18:41.799 --> 00:18:44.359 you know, brick by brick, and so yeah, no, it's 291 00:18:44.359 --> 00:18:45.680 interesting. Okay, how's he going to build this? Okay, how is 292 00:18:45.680 --> 00:18:48.480 he going to go do this? Or what's this philosophy on pest? You 293 00:18:48.519 --> 00:18:52.319 know, like, you know, I enjoy that part of it. I 294 00:18:52.440 --> 00:18:56.240 also, you know, will in the future we will enjoying those story stories 295 00:18:56.240 --> 00:19:00.599 to fans and the viewers. That's the good thing, you know. And 296 00:19:00.119 --> 00:19:03.400 you know, we're kind of waiting to see who Kentucky gets as a coach. 297 00:19:03.519 --> 00:19:08.480 Okay, whoever, whoever they land, uh does does somebody like a 298 00:19:08.559 --> 00:19:11.720 reed shepherd come back? Do they? Can they you know, can they 299 00:19:11.799 --> 00:19:15.480 bring some recruits with them. You know, what what does that look like? 300 00:19:15.599 --> 00:19:21.839 Because you know both of them are starting fresh, but obviously Louisville was 301 00:19:21.880 --> 00:19:23.839 starting from a different spot than Kentucky. Sure, okay, so how do 302 00:19:23.880 --> 00:19:27.440 you how do you manage how do you manage that? You know that'll be? 303 00:19:27.839 --> 00:19:33.319 You know, for me, it's all fascinating, no doubt. And 304 00:19:33.000 --> 00:19:38.319 I mean the newness of the entire situation on both sides is is good for 305 00:19:38.319 --> 00:19:41.319 for people like us and what we do for fans and uh, you know, 306 00:19:41.440 --> 00:19:45.200 I'm sure we'll be the fan bases will be at each other's next pretty 307 00:19:45.200 --> 00:19:47.720 soon, and that's that's the way it should always be in the rivalry. 308 00:19:47.720 --> 00:19:51.440 But no doubt, it is exciting. And Louisville, we knew the Louisville 309 00:19:51.440 --> 00:19:52.759 situation, we knew was going to happen. A new coach with Kentucky. 310 00:19:52.920 --> 00:19:56.039 I think we thought it was possible. But the way it all played out 311 00:19:56.039 --> 00:19:59.640 has certainly given us some entertainment here on this side of things in the last 312 00:19:59.640 --> 00:20:00.680 few days. But Kit, I appreciate you as always making the time. 313 00:20:00.720 --> 00:20:03.359 I know you're very busy, probably waiting to see if there's some big news 314 00:20:03.359 --> 00:20:06.880 breaking any moment now. So we'll let you get back at it, and 315 00:20:06.960 --> 00:20:10.079 again thank you as always for spending some time with us. You know, 316 00:20:10.200 --> 00:20:12.319 let me say, let me say this. You know, changes, change 317 00:20:12.359 --> 00:20:15.920 is what it is. But you know, sometimes you close your eyes and 318 00:20:17.000 --> 00:20:22.839 you think about this man. How lucky were we when we had both Patino 319 00:20:22.079 --> 00:20:26.960 and Cali Perry. No doubt about it, no doubt about it. It'll 320 00:20:26.960 --> 00:20:29.200 never be there again, we right, we'll never have that, right, 321 00:20:30.160 --> 00:20:33.000 No, I don't think so. But it was fun when it lasted. 322 00:20:33.319 --> 00:20:37.559 Can't appreciate you, brother, all right. That's Ken Spencer wh S eleven. 323 00:20:37.599 --> 00:20:41.519 Always delivers, always delivers good stuff there, all right. So I'm 324 00:20:41.519 --> 00:20:45.359 seeing videos of Cal walking in Have you seen these yet? John? I 325 00:20:45.400 --> 00:20:48.960 did see it. It's weird, isn't swaggy cow back? As they say. 326 00:20:49.079 --> 00:20:53.000 I'm kind of a fan now I'm a caw guy. I want to 327 00:20:53.000 --> 00:20:57.240 hate him. I'm a cow guy now. Yeah. Also, I guess 328 00:20:57.279 --> 00:21:00.680 the top signy for Kentucky is quest at a released from his letter of intent. 329 00:21:00.799 --> 00:21:03.559 Not sure if that means for sure that he won't be at Kentucky, 330 00:21:03.599 --> 00:21:10.119 but he could be following Cal to Arkansas. But also Scott Drew because it's 331 00:21:10.160 --> 00:21:12.000 Baylor and he's Scott Drew. I don't think people realize the guy really recruits 332 00:21:12.000 --> 00:21:15.160 at a high level, and if he brings his class with him, that 333 00:21:15.599 --> 00:21:18.000 would essentially be you know, not the same thing, but pretty damn close. 334 00:21:18.000 --> 00:21:19.759 All right, quick break, we'll come back. Keep this thing rolling 335 00:21:19.759 --> 00:21:23.000 along at his Coffee and Company, and we are fueled by Thornton's on Sports 336 00:21:23.039 --> 00:21:27.599 Talk seven ninety. So for our podcast listeners who cannot hear this, the 337 00:21:27.640 --> 00:21:32.359 song playing right now is I mean, it's a beautiful song by the One 338 00:21:32.400 --> 00:21:34.599 the Only Vince Gill. Don't let our love start slipping away. The love 339 00:21:34.599 --> 00:21:40.519 slipped away between John Caliperry and clearly Mitch Barnhardt. I don't think it's ever 340 00:21:40.599 --> 00:21:44.000 loved there to begin with. But it's weird, man, I'll just say 341 00:21:44.039 --> 00:21:47.680 it is weird seeing him in all the Arkansas stuff. But one of the 342 00:21:47.680 --> 00:21:51.960 things that has happened here and there along the way, and my time spent 343 00:21:52.039 --> 00:21:56.160 with the One the Only company man, mister John Alden is to me. 344 00:21:56.319 --> 00:21:59.680 I mean, he's he's got better facial hair than me. He could grow 345 00:21:59.720 --> 00:22:02.559 beer in five days. I don't think I could do it in five years. 346 00:22:03.079 --> 00:22:07.640 He's mature, he's responsible, he's a grown ass man ladies and gentlemen. 347 00:22:07.640 --> 00:22:10.640 He's got a mortgage, a wife. I mean, he's out here 348 00:22:10.920 --> 00:22:15.119 as a grown up. But at times I just lose sight of the fact 349 00:22:15.119 --> 00:22:18.400 that he's a lot younger than me. And most of it is just because, 350 00:22:18.440 --> 00:22:22.319 you know, at times, I forget how old I am. Also, 351 00:22:22.440 --> 00:22:26.359 though, to John's credit, he's and I said this when we first 352 00:22:26.400 --> 00:22:29.039 started working together, and I think it's not to say anybody that is in 353 00:22:29.079 --> 00:22:32.640 their mid twenties is going to be I'm just gonna assume they're childish and immature 354 00:22:32.680 --> 00:22:37.960 and you know, knuckleheads. But he, you know, he's different in 355 00:22:37.000 --> 00:22:41.119 a good way. But I thought, John, you don't know who Vince 356 00:22:41.279 --> 00:22:45.960 Gill is. And then I'm like, wait a second, makes total sense 357 00:22:45.960 --> 00:22:48.880 that he wouldn't know who Vince Gill is because Vince Gill is, you know, 358 00:22:49.200 --> 00:22:52.240 a legendary voice in country music. But like Vince Gill has not been 359 00:22:52.279 --> 00:22:56.759 like relevant or mainstream, and you know, probably since the time he were 360 00:22:56.799 --> 00:23:02.000 born. I will say, though I didn't enjoy that tune, did the 361 00:23:02.079 --> 00:23:04.400 voice sound familiar at all? Like, because I'm not trying to think like 362 00:23:04.440 --> 00:23:07.400 what what what? What would be like the one song you could have heard 363 00:23:07.440 --> 00:23:11.440 and I don't really know. The melody didn't sound familiar. But the one 364 00:23:11.519 --> 00:23:14.440 thing I thought of when I listened to the song is that he just he 365 00:23:14.519 --> 00:23:18.319 sounds like what's the guy's name from Rascal Flats. It's Gary song, Yes, 366 00:23:18.720 --> 00:23:21.680 Gary v Gary Vaughan something. Yeah, that's that's kind of what this 367 00:23:21.759 --> 00:23:25.319 voice reminds me of. All right, So just be honest with me, 368 00:23:25.480 --> 00:23:27.799 like, don't don't act like, don't don't don't hear This question is if 369 00:23:27.799 --> 00:23:30.680 I'm trying to lead you in a way or the other. Do you think 370 00:23:30.759 --> 00:23:36.799 Rascal Flats is lame? That's a very broad question but easy answers. Yes, 371 00:23:36.960 --> 00:23:38.319 yeah, a lot of people do. I think I do too. 372 00:23:38.759 --> 00:23:42.799 But they're a guilty pleasure. I learned that recently because there's Rascal Flats song 373 00:23:42.880 --> 00:23:45.519 that are songs, not not the one that was in like cars or whatever, 374 00:23:45.559 --> 00:23:48.720 but like Rascal Flats is like a guilty pleasure to wear. I'm not 375 00:23:48.759 --> 00:23:52.079 seeking it out, but if it's on, I'm I'm I'm vibed. Are 376 00:23:52.119 --> 00:23:56.559 they the nickelback of country music but to a much lower extent? Yes, 377 00:23:56.839 --> 00:23:59.960 Yes, to the lower extent for sure. And I don't think they get 378 00:24:00.160 --> 00:24:03.480 they never became the punching bag, like that one scenario where they got caught 379 00:24:03.480 --> 00:24:07.640 lip syncing it a new I don't remember what year was, but that was 380 00:24:07.680 --> 00:24:10.240 maybe what made five or ten years ago. I would so that that guy 381 00:24:10.400 --> 00:24:12.440 Gary something for Rascal Flats, which I guess we should probably them Gary. 382 00:24:12.480 --> 00:24:15.759 Yeah, just Gary. H He looks like a Gary too, by the 383 00:24:15.759 --> 00:24:17.920 way, He's one of those guys like you mede him and he's like, 384 00:24:17.920 --> 00:24:21.039 shakes your hand, Yeah I'm Gary. You think you're damn right, You're 385 00:24:21.079 --> 00:24:22.680 Gary. You don't know way you could be anybody else than Gary. You 386 00:24:22.720 --> 00:24:26.880 look like a Gary. But he has one of the best voices you'll ever 387 00:24:26.920 --> 00:24:30.200 hear. So yeah, Vince Gill also, I think has one of the 388 00:24:30.240 --> 00:24:34.720 best voices. But again when I when I look at his I mean maybe 389 00:24:34.759 --> 00:24:40.039 I was just raised right, because some of Vince Gill's most notable songs that 390 00:24:40.200 --> 00:24:44.000 like I remember that were big hits on the radio, were out before I 391 00:24:44.039 --> 00:24:47.000 was born. So maybe my parents just made sure I, you know, 392 00:24:47.119 --> 00:24:49.039 despite it being long before I was born, they wanted to make sure, 393 00:24:49.079 --> 00:24:52.480 you know, I was aware or educated. Yeah, exactly exactly. I 394 00:24:52.480 --> 00:24:56.119 mean like your parents were probably really really young when Vince Gill was you know, 395 00:24:56.279 --> 00:25:00.359 was was on top. But anyways, shout out Vince Gill. Love 396 00:25:00.440 --> 00:25:03.640 some Vince Gill. All right, So if you are just now joining us, 397 00:25:03.680 --> 00:25:07.400 welcome in it. It's been an eventful hour and a half here. 398 00:25:07.440 --> 00:25:11.079 We had a good convo there, good chat with our man Kent Spencer, 399 00:25:11.440 --> 00:25:15.200 and I really appreciate his insight because I know he covers you know, he's 400 00:25:15.200 --> 00:25:18.839 been doing this a long time. He covers both teams are locally and and 401 00:25:18.200 --> 00:25:23.839 you know Kent has connections and resources in Lexington, you know, on the 402 00:25:23.880 --> 00:25:26.920 UK side and in his line of work. And I know he's broke stories 403 00:25:26.920 --> 00:25:30.440 over the years. But he's not someone that's just going to fire up Twitter 404 00:25:30.480 --> 00:25:33.119 and send off a tweet, because that's really not the nature of what his 405 00:25:33.319 --> 00:25:37.079 job actually is. However, you know, I think he hit it right 406 00:25:37.079 --> 00:25:38.119 on the head. And this is probably on a secret, but Mitch Barnhart 407 00:25:38.200 --> 00:25:41.319 not wanting cala Perry to be the guy, but kind of being pushed aside 408 00:25:41.480 --> 00:25:45.680 by the President and by the late Mike Pratt. Cal Perry's the kind of 409 00:25:45.720 --> 00:25:48.519 guy that wouldn't get over that because it's just how he's wired. That goes 410 00:25:48.559 --> 00:25:52.519 back to like him feeling betrayed by certain people that had to at least, 411 00:25:52.559 --> 00:25:56.319 you know, not even provide opinion, but just really used the platform to 412 00:25:56.359 --> 00:26:00.680 state facts as far as how bad Kentucky was and twenty one and you know 413 00:26:00.720 --> 00:26:04.759 how embarrassing the losses have been when you, you know, lose to teams 414 00:26:04.880 --> 00:26:14.960 like Oakland and and Saint Peter's. So it's good for everybody, But I 415 00:26:15.000 --> 00:26:21.960 wonder if I wonder, I wonder where the most likely scenario is for one 416 00:26:21.960 --> 00:26:25.880 of the sides involved in this to kind of maybe get some buyer's remorse, 417 00:26:26.000 --> 00:26:30.400 And maybe buyer's remorse wouldn't be how you would describe Kentucky because they let him 418 00:26:30.400 --> 00:26:33.559 walk in and want to keep him, and they won big because they don't 419 00:26:33.599 --> 00:26:37.400 have to pay thirty three million dollars and they now can go get a new 420 00:26:37.440 --> 00:26:41.440 coach and start fresh. Now will that coach be as accomplished as Calipari? 421 00:26:41.599 --> 00:26:44.119 To be honest, nobody is. There's nobody out there that you could go 422 00:26:44.160 --> 00:26:45.599 get that has the resume at Calipari. And again, I know some people 423 00:26:45.640 --> 00:26:48.200 say, well wait a second, uh, you know he lost his same 424 00:26:48.200 --> 00:26:51.759 we can go get anybody. We can go get somebody off the street to 425 00:26:51.799 --> 00:26:53.839 lose to Saint Peter's. You're right, But like again, I talked about 426 00:26:53.839 --> 00:26:57.640 this at the end of yesterday show when somebody asked me what grade I would 427 00:26:57.680 --> 00:27:02.680 give Caliperry on his time I'm in Lexington in fourteen years. I think it's 428 00:27:02.680 --> 00:27:07.920 an impossible question answer because there's drastically different ways to look at it. If 429 00:27:07.960 --> 00:27:14.559 you're asking me as far as just accomplishments alone, four final fours, one 430 00:27:14.640 --> 00:27:19.599 national championship, six seven elite eights, I mean a bunch of regular season 431 00:27:19.640 --> 00:27:22.680 titles in the SEC, bunch of conference titles in the SEC. As far 432 00:27:22.680 --> 00:27:27.920 as the tournament, I mean anybody claiming that that was not a successful run 433 00:27:27.960 --> 00:27:30.480 in fourteen years. I just don't know how you would come to that conclusion 434 00:27:30.599 --> 00:27:37.960 unless you are specifically looking at it knowing the talent that he had. So 435 00:27:37.759 --> 00:27:41.079 did he have success, Yes, if we're going to just base it off 436 00:27:41.079 --> 00:27:45.559 of how we judge success and failure from high level coaches, he succeeded. 437 00:27:45.200 --> 00:27:49.200 Did he underachieve Absolutely? Those are really two different questions, and I think 438 00:27:49.599 --> 00:27:56.240 the specific you know part of that question again, are you talking about did 439 00:27:56.279 --> 00:27:59.680 he do as good as he should have? That's different than saying did he 440 00:27:59.720 --> 00:28:02.720 have a run? He had a really good run. And Scott Drew is 441 00:28:02.759 --> 00:28:06.920 a guy that is clearly a accomplished coach with the national championship. But if 442 00:28:06.920 --> 00:28:10.200 that's what ends up being made the decision, I should say, if that's 443 00:28:10.200 --> 00:28:12.920 who they hire, then I think Kentucky fans would understandably be you know, 444 00:28:14.920 --> 00:28:17.799 willing to embrace it and say, hey, this guy, he can recruit 445 00:28:17.839 --> 00:28:19.960 really well, he wins. Let's let's you know, start a new era 446 00:28:21.079 --> 00:28:26.920 here. But again back to who would be the first to kind of maybe 447 00:28:26.960 --> 00:28:30.160 have a little bit of doubt that this was a good thing. Would it 448 00:28:30.240 --> 00:28:36.160 be Kentucky fans maybe wishing that they would have Maybe, you know, I 449 00:28:36.160 --> 00:28:37.720 don't really know what Kentucky fans could have done, because they still showed up, 450 00:28:37.799 --> 00:28:41.680 right, they still supported Maybe they wouldn't, I mean and cow walked 451 00:28:41.720 --> 00:28:47.799 away. Maybe they're displeasure with it being a new era and not being as 452 00:28:47.839 --> 00:28:49.079 good as they wanted. They would take it out on Barnhart and saying he 453 00:28:49.119 --> 00:28:53.720 should have you know, cave to cal in every way? Is it Scott 454 00:28:53.799 --> 00:28:59.680 Drew who is thinking goodness? Gracious, these people are nuts. What did 455 00:28:59.720 --> 00:29:02.880 I Well, he probably wouldn't say good and is gracious because that's probably a 456 00:29:02.920 --> 00:29:04.599 cuss word in his mind. To be honest with you, he'd probably say, 457 00:29:04.640 --> 00:29:07.839 oh, shucks, shucks, honey, what did I get myself into? 458 00:29:07.960 --> 00:29:15.759 Golly geez? What are some really like super like uh, not even 459 00:29:15.799 --> 00:29:21.400 politically correct, but like, what are some things you could say to avoid 460 00:29:21.440 --> 00:29:23.519 cussing that? Like, lets it lets it be known that you would never 461 00:29:23.640 --> 00:29:30.039 even utter anything close to a cuss word. I think, yeah, golly 462 00:29:30.920 --> 00:29:33.759 shucks, something like that, because he may realize, like, hey, 463 00:29:33.799 --> 00:29:40.839 this is this is you know, this is crazy. Like these people they 464 00:29:40.839 --> 00:29:45.839 love it and they care, But man, I don't prefer this to Baylor 465 00:29:45.880 --> 00:29:49.480 as far as just everything that comes with it. Or is it maybe John 466 00:29:49.519 --> 00:29:53.680 Caliperi realizing that like he doesn't have the energy, he doesn't have the fire 467 00:29:53.720 --> 00:29:57.599 and drive to just take Arkansas to the tip top of the sport like he 468 00:29:57.640 --> 00:30:02.480 did Kentucky because he's burnt out and the only real reason he wanted to move 469 00:30:02.480 --> 00:30:07.839 on was because of spiite And that's not enough to drive you to do what 470 00:30:07.920 --> 00:30:12.240 needs to be done. Maybe it's Arkansas fans who you know, realize that 471 00:30:12.279 --> 00:30:19.599 they have a guy that was elite but ten years ago, you know what 472 00:30:19.680 --> 00:30:23.079 I mean? Like that that that's going to be interesting for me to see 473 00:30:23.079 --> 00:30:27.039 how that how that plays out. So the latest on you know, the 474 00:30:27.319 --> 00:30:32.079 whole I mean, I guess this is what you would classify as the circus. 475 00:30:32.119 --> 00:30:34.000 Is that just the reporting And I'm not I'm not calling anybody out. 476 00:30:34.000 --> 00:30:40.839 I'm not saying anybody anything wrong. But the Baylor fans and the Kentucky fans 477 00:30:41.240 --> 00:30:45.039 when it became clear that he is now the guy they're targeting. You know, 478 00:30:45.079 --> 00:30:47.799 Baylor, I think truly believes that they are not going to lose their 479 00:30:47.839 --> 00:30:49.519 coach. Now. I don't know if you I don't know if he'd be 480 00:30:49.519 --> 00:30:55.400 if it would be something that you would expect to hear from a fan as 481 00:30:55.440 --> 00:31:00.759 far as oh crap, he's leaving. I mean, I guess you could 482 00:31:00.759 --> 00:31:03.559 see something along the lines of hey, I love you, stay, we 483 00:31:03.599 --> 00:31:07.279 could never survive without you. That kind of stuff. And it's not that 484 00:31:07.319 --> 00:31:10.720 I'm super plugged into the Baylor fan base, because let's be honest, the 485 00:31:10.720 --> 00:31:12.759 Baylor fan base is tiny. That's not a shot at him, that's just 486 00:31:12.799 --> 00:31:17.079 the reality. Again, they have five thousand people at their games and that's 487 00:31:17.079 --> 00:31:22.039 considered a good crowd. Look it up, not making that up. So 488 00:31:25.160 --> 00:31:27.200 the flight, I guess there was a flight that did happen, but maybe 489 00:31:27.240 --> 00:31:30.720 I guess now. And I'm looking at Big Blue Jesus' Twitter account himself here 490 00:31:30.759 --> 00:31:34.799 just because I do believe he's connected to this as good as anybody, but 491 00:31:34.799 --> 00:31:38.279 I'm not sure anybody is truly all the way in the no. But apparently 492 00:31:38.279 --> 00:31:41.960 there was a plane and everybody thought that Scott Drew was on it. However, 493 00:31:41.000 --> 00:31:47.400 Scott Drew has I guess, let people know with a Twitter picture that 494 00:31:47.440 --> 00:31:49.160 he posted that it was. You know, he's not. He's not on 495 00:31:49.200 --> 00:31:53.079 the plane, he's not having Alex and he's actually in Waco. But it 496 00:31:53.160 --> 00:31:56.319 just seems I've never been a part of any of these negotiations something early, 497 00:31:56.359 --> 00:32:00.839 sure how it works, but having somebody leave Bayer, leave Waco, I 498 00:32:00.880 --> 00:32:07.480 should say, in a in a private plane to go to Lexington to talk 499 00:32:07.519 --> 00:32:10.640 about this move without Scott Drew being on it just seems weird to me, 500 00:32:12.119 --> 00:32:17.400 Like if it's going to be a conversation between agents or I guess that's all 501 00:32:17.400 --> 00:32:21.400 it would be, right agents, why would they need to do it in 502 00:32:21.400 --> 00:32:22.640 person, right, I mean, I just feel like that's that's kind of 503 00:32:22.680 --> 00:32:25.359 odd. But anyways, and also there's probably a really good chance that Scott 504 00:32:25.400 --> 00:32:29.279 Drew's agent doesn't live in Waco, because who would live in Waco unless you 505 00:32:29.279 --> 00:32:36.880 had to live in Waco. But the let me make sure I got yeh. 506 00:32:36.880 --> 00:32:42.519 So I've got the sound here from this guy who claims that he called 507 00:32:42.640 --> 00:32:44.680 this. So let me just back up a second here. I'll start with 508 00:32:44.680 --> 00:32:46.920 the Scott Drew tweet. So Scott Drew tweeted out the picture when everybody thought 509 00:32:46.960 --> 00:32:51.279 he was on a plane to Lexington. He sent out this tweet clearly, 510 00:32:51.559 --> 00:32:53.839 uh you know, knowing what it was going to do. But it's a 511 00:32:53.839 --> 00:32:57.400 picture of him at a at a Mexican restaurant. And I only say a 512 00:32:57.440 --> 00:32:59.880 Mexican restaurant because you can see that they're eating chips in salsa and the me 513 00:33:00.160 --> 00:33:02.359 you clearly looks like a menu of a Mexican restaurant. But he says, 514 00:33:02.440 --> 00:33:07.039 great spot in Waco on a rainy day. No better friend and supporter than 515 00:33:07.200 --> 00:33:10.240 Eric Shiro of a an Alliance Bank. Well, apparently Alliance Bank is like 516 00:33:10.240 --> 00:33:15.319 a big time booster Donor, And let me just ask you this, John, 517 00:33:15.359 --> 00:33:19.559 did you think that's like I mean, I think that's him wanting it 518 00:33:19.680 --> 00:33:22.920 to be known that he's not on the plane to Lexington. But that doesn't 519 00:33:22.920 --> 00:33:25.160 do anything for me as far as thinking he's shooting it down that he's not 520 00:33:25.160 --> 00:33:29.200 taking the job, right, Yeah, because you're being I don't want to 521 00:33:29.240 --> 00:33:30.799 say politically correct, but you're just you're just kind of saying, Hey, 522 00:33:30.880 --> 00:33:34.599 I'm not on that plane. I'm where I say I am. Now him 523 00:33:34.640 --> 00:33:37.400 just posting that he's at lunch is one way to do that. But I 524 00:33:37.480 --> 00:33:40.319 also think throwing in the name of a big time booster and who he works 525 00:33:40.359 --> 00:33:45.559 for and including him in the picture. Not to overthink it, but that 526 00:33:45.559 --> 00:33:47.160 that kind of makes me think that there is something to the fact that like 527 00:33:47.240 --> 00:33:51.920 he's like he's wanting people to know that, like he's invested in Baylor. 528 00:33:51.920 --> 00:33:53.640 Now again, if he didn't want the job, I think he'd already tell 529 00:33:53.680 --> 00:33:55.759 us buddy that, right, like Mitch would know that he's not going to 530 00:33:55.799 --> 00:33:58.880 be the guy, and they'd move on and they wouldn't go through this whole 531 00:33:58.960 --> 00:34:01.079 charade of trying to get him if he doesn't want the job. So I 532 00:34:01.119 --> 00:34:05.079 still think it's gonna be him. But this led to a Kentucky fan, 533 00:34:05.119 --> 00:34:08.320 I guess, figuring out what restaurant they were at, calling it and asking 534 00:34:08.400 --> 00:34:12.639 the lady who answered the phone to go talk to Scott Drew. And I've 535 00:34:12.920 --> 00:34:15.760 edited this out to where we can play it without the two curse words. 536 00:34:15.360 --> 00:34:21.639 And I don't believe it. It could be possible. I can't prove that 537 00:34:21.719 --> 00:34:23.599 it's not real. I just I lean towards this being just one of the 538 00:34:23.639 --> 00:34:30.800 things people can say that because of how insane these coaching searches are, and 539 00:34:30.840 --> 00:34:34.360 because of how you know, nobody really knows what's going on, people throw 540 00:34:34.400 --> 00:34:37.760 out whatever and see what sticks and see what people run with. I feel 541 00:34:37.800 --> 00:34:40.119 like this kind of falls into that category. But again, if it was 542 00:34:40.199 --> 00:34:44.679 real, I can't say I'd be totally stunned. So the lady answers. 543 00:34:44.719 --> 00:34:46.320 She goes hello, and I go, you need to tell Scott Drew to 544 00:34:46.320 --> 00:34:51.320 come to Kentucky and she goes, what Scott Drew, he's at eating at 545 00:34:51.320 --> 00:34:53.960 your restaurant. Now you need to tell them to come to Kentucky too. 546 00:34:53.960 --> 00:34:57.440 I guess she's a no thing. She was like, oh, so you 547 00:34:57.480 --> 00:35:00.239 need to talk to this person. I said, yes. He goes, 548 00:35:00.239 --> 00:35:02.760 what is he wearing? He's wearing I was like, uh, look at 549 00:35:02.760 --> 00:35:06.079 the picture. He's wearing a white Baylor polos. Like he's wearing a white 550 00:35:06.079 --> 00:35:09.559 Baylor polo. And I hear like talking, She's like, is there someone 551 00:35:09.639 --> 00:35:15.119 named Scott here? Blah blah blah. Next thing you know, I hear 552 00:35:15.199 --> 00:35:17.719 say, someone's on the phone with you. He goes, I'm not. 553 00:35:19.039 --> 00:35:21.760 It was like, I all my life, I'm not Scott. Drew goes, 554 00:35:22.320 --> 00:35:24.440 yeah, hello, and I go, Coach, we need your Kentucky. 555 00:35:24.760 --> 00:35:29.320 He get laughs and he goes who is this And I go, it's 556 00:35:29.360 --> 00:35:31.239 just a loyal fan, Coach, we need you up here. Sorry to 557 00:35:31.280 --> 00:35:34.800 bother you, but enjoy your lunch. He goes, all right, man, 558 00:35:34.840 --> 00:35:38.440 that's impressive, thank you. And that's how it ended. I mean, 559 00:35:40.159 --> 00:35:45.440 so you believe it. John. There's something about this guy, the 560 00:35:45.480 --> 00:35:50.800 way that he speaks in general, that is super unbelievable. Like he just 561 00:35:50.840 --> 00:35:53.719 doesn't sound confident in what in the story that he's trying to tell. And 562 00:35:53.719 --> 00:35:59.719 I wouldn't expect there to be a British waiter at Yeah that was at Waco 563 00:35:59.800 --> 00:36:02.800 Tech. This Mexican restaurant but hey, I'm not familiar with h Waco very 564 00:36:02.920 --> 00:36:06.599 much. Some maybe that's not surprised, but I do feel like if that 565 00:36:06.679 --> 00:36:10.840 were true, the response that Scott Drew gave sounds very real. Totally totally 566 00:36:10.840 --> 00:36:15.960 agree, totally agree the fact that he like but also that sounds like Scott 567 00:36:16.000 --> 00:36:19.320 Drew as far as just what he would do. But then again, the 568 00:36:19.360 --> 00:36:22.400 whole scenario where the woman there wouldn't know who he was doesn't make a lot 569 00:36:22.440 --> 00:36:25.960 of sense to me. But then again, we all know that like Baylor 570 00:36:27.000 --> 00:36:30.119 basketball doesn't move any needle compared to a place like Kentucky or Lovo for that 571 00:36:30.159 --> 00:36:34.639 matter. I mean Pat Kelsey's talk about it yesterday on the acc netwhere he 572 00:36:34.639 --> 00:36:37.719 can't get out of his car without like the go karts chan or somebody coming 573 00:36:37.760 --> 00:36:39.480 and talk to him. And if he frequents this restaurant, you'd think the 574 00:36:39.639 --> 00:36:45.079 entire staff would know that somebody liked absolute Absolutely so, even if it's not 575 00:36:45.119 --> 00:36:49.519 true, it's still one of those things that gained some traction on social media. 576 00:36:49.679 --> 00:36:55.239 And I love college sports, man, It's and I can't really put 577 00:36:55.239 --> 00:36:59.920 into words why it's just different than pro sports, but like there's a lot 578 00:37:00.280 --> 00:37:05.119 of just give a damn. I guess from fans that's just not even though 579 00:37:05.119 --> 00:37:07.320 we now know they're getting paid and we know that there's free agency with the 580 00:37:07.360 --> 00:37:12.440 portal all that stuff. I just think because at its core, it was 581 00:37:12.440 --> 00:37:14.639 never about that. There was a level of purity to it. It wasn't 582 00:37:14.639 --> 00:37:17.400 a transactional thing like in the NBA. It's just it's different. All right, 583 00:37:17.440 --> 00:37:20.000 let's take a quick break. We'll come back on the other side of 584 00:37:20.000 --> 00:37:22.679 wrap up at four o'clock hour. Keep this thing rolling along again. It 585 00:37:22.760 --> 00:37:24.280 is Coffee and Company, and we are feel about Thornton's right here on Sports 586 00:37:24.280 --> 00:37:30.199 Talk seven ninety. So the lady answers, she was, hell, that's 587 00:37:30.199 --> 00:37:35.199 what happens whenever I run the board and just you know, fun start hitting, 588 00:37:35.400 --> 00:37:38.760 start hitting the wrong button. So apologies for that, but yeah, 589 00:37:39.119 --> 00:37:43.280 I'll learn from it. It doesn't happen that often. But usually I just 590 00:37:43.320 --> 00:37:46.159 have a certain set of sounds to my right that I that I that I 591 00:37:46.199 --> 00:37:52.440 used during the show. But today I added that that guy who claims he 592 00:37:53.719 --> 00:37:57.599 called to this restaurant and told Scott Drew he needs to come to Kentucky. 593 00:37:57.639 --> 00:38:00.079 A lot of people are telling me that that was so random. That who 594 00:38:00.119 --> 00:38:02.599 would make that up? Well, people during a coaching search, Well, 595 00:38:02.639 --> 00:38:08.480 I mean it's it's the dude sounded like he was making it up. Yeah, 596 00:38:08.920 --> 00:38:12.880 kind of. But either way, I don't think it's gonna have any 597 00:38:12.920 --> 00:38:16.159 impact on what happens with Scot Drew. But let me tell you guys once 598 00:38:16.159 --> 00:38:20.320 again about my friends at the Louisville Men's Clinic. If you are someone that 599 00:38:20.719 --> 00:38:25.320 maybe feels as if your age you're getting older, has impacted your weight, 600 00:38:27.000 --> 00:38:30.239 your energy levels, your libido, those kind of things, a lot of 601 00:38:30.280 --> 00:38:32.000 folks just say, well, hell, what are you gonna do? It's 602 00:38:32.079 --> 00:38:36.000 part of getting older. Well, there is something to that, like as 603 00:38:36.000 --> 00:38:38.719 you get older, even in your thirties, those kind of things do sneak 604 00:38:38.800 --> 00:38:40.800 up on you. 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