Tonight's guest is Mike Colintonio. Mike, Welcome to the show. Hey Bick,
how are you well? I'm doing good, but more importantly, how
are you? I'm okay, I'm all right, Thank you are You're welcome?
Mike. Please give us a brief file on yourself. All right,
no pressure. So I grew up on Long Island, New York and Sicilian
family. You know, run of the mill, average guy, went through
every retrade under the sun. Didn't really care for anything. So eventually I
joined in the Army around twenty three, stayed in for I had a two
and a half year contract, but I stayed in for another year and a
half to go overseas to Afghanistan. When I got back, I was just
basically dumped off into society and very very lost for multiple reasons. I was
dealing with addiction, and I was dealing with uh, you know, a
lot of PTSD and some other issues. So eventually I went in for some
help after a while trying to do it myself. And over those five years,
i know, five or six years, I did a lot of healing
and started doing a lot of like you know, spiritual healing and learning reiky
and meditation and then things like that which really started to open me up as
an individual. And I really wasn't finding my place in the world back in
society, so I started taking to the woods, and I had too many
social anxieties. So I found myself going in the woods NonStop, probably once
or twice a day at least for a couple of hours each And I had
a very deep interest in task much but it wasn't an understanding or even a
full necessarily belief yet, and I didn't necessarily things that I had the chance
of seeing on where I was. You know, you have to go in
the middle of nowhere, it's what It's what I thought. You had to
go in the middle of the mountains and scream and bang on trees, etc.
And I only knew what I knew from what I knew at that point,
which was not much. And that's pretty much when I was planning to
go to the Pacific Northwest when I had my encounter which put a screeching halt
on my trip, and I started to you know, it was very traumatic
for me, and there was nothing threatening. There was nothing threatening there at
all. It's just was sheer size and fear. My reaction dropped me to
the floor and when I looked back, he you know, it was gone.
And mind you, my last job as a soldier in combat and the
fight or flight was flight. Fight wasn't an option, but my body and
had reacted to say flight. But go just go down, Just go down,
and hope nothing happened. I beg for help, you know. And
mind you again, I don't think anything bad was going to happen, but
at the time I could not process that. I couldn't process it. So
at this point, you know, this is when people decide I'm never going
back in the woods ever, ever again, or I gotta get some answers.
So I chose the ladder and started to go back in and started to
reach out to a lot of people. And you know, a few years
later, I've been doing that steadily, just kind of going out there as
often as possible as a blank slate, and you know, no preconceived notions
or preconceived ideas, no matter how much I learned or how much I take
in, I try and just step out there every day and say, you
know, hey, universe, hey woodsy mother nature, what do you got
for me today? And as much as you try to prepare and cover yourself
in protection. Sometimes other things can affect you and bind you and reach out,
and I've had to learn the hard way, especially with Dogman, which
is why we're here today. And yeah, I mean that's about it.
I guess in a nut show it goes without saying I'm so glad you're able
to get back on the horse and head out into the woods. And it
also goes without saying I can't thank you enough your service to our country.
I'm just so sorry to hear that your experiences overseas have affected you the way
they have. Yeah, it's very unfortunate. I do consider myself one of
the lucky ones to be able to recover and you come back from that,
and it is a constant process, right with any kind of trauma, it
requires constant work. But I appreciate that big thank you. Well, you
know you're welcome, budd You're just telling them like it is. I really
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comparing the two your dog meant encounters, which obviously have hits you very hard,
and then your experiences overseas in the military, which one has been harder
to deal with, which one's given you more PTSD. I would say the
wartime, because there was there's tangible damage. You know, that that lingers
that constantly reminds me. You know, I have a TBI, which you
know, just kind of gives me these It's a TBI stands for a traumatic
brain injury. There was a lot of IDs. That was the method of
defense and offense by you know, the locals over there, and have been
in numerous explosions, and you know, it really gives me these constant migraines
and neck pain and just you know, steady, steady discomfort on a regular
basis. But I do consider myself fortunate. But again, it's just,
you know, constant reminder of that trauma and those events. So I'd say
that's probably the main reason why they were more traumatic. Plus, you spend
every single day around man and these people would smile in your face and then
turn their back on you later, and you never know who's who out there.
We're amongst human beings. A whole day long every day, and we
have to put a lot of trust in them on all a lot of different
levels, at a lot of different times. And you know, you just
never know. Humans are the most unpredictable thing I've ever been around. Isn't
that the truth? And I'm so sorry, like I said, that you
had to go through all that. I mean, no one should have to
deal with that. That is so horrible. But like I said, that's
just one of the reasons why I really appreciate your service to our country so
much. I really do. I thank you, bro Are You're welcome.
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to my Bigfoot Sighting dot com. Well, you've got a lot to unpack
for us here tonight, Mike, So let's dive into it now. Please
tell us about your encounters, give us every last detail that comes to mind.
Okay, so this is a pretty long drawn out scenario. I'll start
from the beginning at least from where I was able to pick up on what
was happening that they were dog man present. I had heard about them,
I had understood that they were they, And it wasn't that I was in
disbelief. I'd say I had tunnel vision and all I wanted to do was
focus on the sask But and I was very good at blocking out anything else
from being there, that was until it made itself very very visible. So
the first time was in the pine barrens and I was by myself, and
I could feel a real lucked ince and he, you know, almost a
reverse magnetic energy, kind of like pushing me back, saying, you know,
as if to say like he don't, don't come in here. But
the stubborn human in me drove all that way and I wanted to go in
there. I didn't drive over there to just turn around, right, So
I just pushed my way forward anyway. And you know, looking back to
hindsight twenty twenty, I shouldn't have. But I was lucky once again,
and consider myself fortunate. But there were multiple dog men out there, and
I could hear them communicating. Mind you on Long Island, just to give
a brief overlay of it. The pine barrens are very it's like one hundred
thousand acres on Long Island. It's very barren, like literally barren, and
there's nobody out there. It's just kind of like a crypted playground where nothing's
off limits and people don't go out there. There are no trails. It's
not like there are trails in some parts, but most of them are like
mountain biking trails, and it's not a prime hiking location, especially with all
the water and beaches and like state parks on the water that we have.
We have so many state and county beautiful parks and beaches that nobody goes out
there. But I was drawn there. I don't know why. I just
it's where I ended up. So I went in and I like it challenge
and I like to switch things up. So on this particular day, oh
so I meant. What I meant to dive into is that we don't have
any coyotes here. We don't have wolves, we don't have bear, we
don't have big cats. We don't even have small cats or fisher cats nothing.
So we have fox and deer. It's about it. So many big
birds of prey. But other than that, nothing you can mix up.
You know, you can't mix up what you're looking at. It's either a
domestic dog or you got a dog man on your hands. And these I
don't know. Maybe maybe some people have super trained dogs elsewhere, but I
don't know anybody with domestic dogs that can tactically move through the brush like a
military unit. And that's what I was seeing. And I want to give
a description of them, but I don't remember much except that it was a
darkish gray, not quite black, not quite gray, not quite silver,
but this like dark gray, like a like a gun metal that almost seemed
to be fluid with their body. It wasn't like mangy. It wasn't scattered
the hair it was it was it seemed to flow with their body movement.
I don't know how this to explain that, you know, except what I
said, I could just tell you what I saw. I don't. I
don't know anything that's hair moves along with its limbs perfectly, like in synchronizing
motions. But this, this is what was happening. They were on all
fours the whole time. They were bounding from tree to tree, very very
quickly. It was almost like a flash. It was always when they were
in my peripheral, I was having my camera out and I was holding my
camera one way. Every if I had my head to the left, I
was holding my camera to the right, and if I had my head to
the right, I was holding my camera to the left in hopes to possibly
capture something that was outdoing me. At every angle there would be a distraction,
some sort of like clack or knock or bark or something that would make
me whip my head in one direction, and then where I was turned away
from would be where they moved. And it was this triangular movement between three
of them, and again I just could not see them. It was just
almost like you know how the contrails that people talk about all time, like
the planes leave behind. It was almost like that's all I could see was
the tail end of the movement. It made if that makes sense. And
at this point, I am trying to back out slowly and slowly and slowly,
but they're constantly moving forward and I know how far I have to go.
And as odd as this sounds, I saw what looked to be like
a sasquat. I am one of the trees and it wasn't something that I
would say was fully physical. Sometimes it's hard to explain, but I would
say I knew what was there, and I knew that something other than the
dog man was there, and sure was way bigger than a person, and
it was way more the presence. It had just kind of commanded the room
and I got direct inkling, like it communicated to me, go, go
now, and go and I started to listen, and I started to make
progress and nothing was happening and making my way out, but continuously it kept
going on because I kept stubbornly stopping and kind of like looking around and filming.
And I should have had a more sense of urgency and moved with a
sense of purpose more so than I did, and I definitely pushed the boundaries.
Eventually I did get another nudge like go, and I did, and
I left, and I reluctantly did not go back to that place. Now.
A couple of weeks later, most likely, I had a subscriber come.
He wanted to come visit and check things out, and we went a
bunch of different places that he had seen videos of that he wanted to go,
and that was one that he wanted to see and so you know,
I just silly, silly me decided, okay, let's go. And as
night started to fall, I'm just going to fast forward because not much went
on, not not noteworthy anyway. For the few first a couple of hours
that we were there, we were just wandering around and you know, just
normal things, banging around the woods and not really getting too much. But
as nights started to fall, I'll reunerate we do not have packs of canine
or koy wolf, coyotes, wolves, nothing. It sounded like a pack
of coyotes was moving in in a hurry, and we weren't far from the
vehicle at this point, but it was parked on the road in the woods
a little bit, but it was on the road and there was a street
light there, which gave this false sense of security. And I looking back,
I don't know why the car and the one street light gave this false
sense of security. I still don't understand it to this day, but it
did. It did, And this has been something that's happened to me multiple
times where I felt this false sense of security because I was close to civilization
or a road or something to that effect. But it doesn't seem to matter,
and as this pack of whatever was coming towards us. I can only
speculate, but it sounded like it was making a bee line for us,
like it knew we were there somehow. There was this huge bridge that went
down, probably about fifteen twenty feet down drop off the trail we were using,
which looked to be like maybe a horse trail. Occasionally there was a
farm near a horse from nearby, and there was something that popped up and
popped back down, and it was so fast. I can't explain how fast
it went up and down. You know when a jacket a box shoot side
of the box, will imagine it went back down immediately in the same fashion,
but even faster. Whack'm All red, reminding me of whack'm all that
game, you know, that arcade game where you trying to hit the thing
when it pops up. And it did it twice, and I know the
second time I got it on camera, but it just didn't do it justice.
When I looked back at it, it was not as intense as it
was to look into those glowing eyes to know something has glowing eyes and can
see you clear as day and you can't see it, and what movements it's
making and where it is and what it's doing is one of the scariest things
out there. It can see or every single move and everything you're doing,
and you have no idea what's happening outside of your hand, in front of
your face. And as the kyotes or whatever, this pack of unknown canines
got closer and closer, and that just happened. The second time it popped
up. I got so scared that we went to the vehicle and I was
like, let's go get in front of me, Go ahead of me,
go, go go. I'm responsible for you. I shouldn't have brought you
out here. Go ahead of me, go and I'll kind of I don't
know what I was thinking, but I was like, I was trying to
put myself a little behind him in case something did happen, they would pick
me. I felt so responsible. At this point, we got to the
vehicle and the fear again, there was this false sense of safety. The
fear started to turn into like, you know, nervous laughter, which eventually
turned into like, man, that was crazy, Like I can't believe that,
you know, almost like we were out of the woods, but we
weren't. We weren't yet and We ended up actually doubling back in a few
feet at one point. And this is probably about ten minutes later, and
we're still there, and everything has calmed down to the point where there's really
no no noise except normal noise out no woods. If anything, I can't
recall, but there was no more of the howling. There was, you
know, no more like phantom footsteps or anything to that effect. Just regular,
regular wood feeling, you know, the regular woods. And there was
something I can't explain to this day, because the street light gave us a
little bit of an extra glimpse, probably our hand in front of our face,
you know, visibility went to somewhere between five and ten feet, and
whatever this was was about two feet from our face. We could feel the
breath it sent. It sent it sent chills down your spine. It was
the most insane thing I've ever had happened. It vibrated. It was this
loud. This loud banshee comes to mind, like screaming like a banshee comes
to mind. But it screamed at the top of its lungs or whatever it
was. And it was not a physical thing. It was just but something
was there screaming in our face and a train whistle is like if you ever
been like right in front of the train and it pulls that whistle. It
was that times ten and way way higher. And you couldn't, like you
you you couldn't go and get a movie actress to ten movie actresses to make
this noise, you know, with a scary movie where the where the female
scream, you know, and it's ten of them more they're screaming like this,
It would not have equaled this. It was the scariest, loudest intense
thing I've ever experienced. And we left. We got the heck out a
dodge as fast as we could and in a nutshew. That was really the
end of that. I think we kind of talked about it briefly. I
remember trying to make I always document after my outings in the woods. I
try to self document a little selfie video for myself about what happened, so
I don't forget if I need to go back for any reason. And I
remember just the phone shaking out of my hands repeatedly, and watching it back,
I remember seeing how stumbling I was over my words, and I couldn't
function, could not formulate a thought. I don't know how he was driving
at all. I have no idea. I think it was a real big
thrill for him a little bit. I don't think he understood the dangers that
I could have been involved there. And yeah, it was just another one
of those things where you're just lucky that that's all. It was. Fast
forward. I'd say that experience really really affected me big time. I didn't
go back over there. I don't think i've been back over there at all
since. Maybe if I did, it was once maybe briefly to kind of
work through trauma, if anything, but I don't even if I did,
I've shut it down. So I started to find other locations like I always
do, and challenge myself and you know, switch it up, and I've
found a place pretty close to home, which is kind of nice. It's
wide open, nobody seems to know it's there, a lot of woods,
a lot of open areas too, and really just a beautiful, beautiful property.
And it's it's state owned. I guess. I'm pretty sure it's stayed
owned anyway. But it goes all the way into the back down this that
looks like you're not supposed to be back there, So I guess that's why
a lot of people don't go in. It has a guard booth, but
no guard you know, a whole bunch of stuff and if you just navigate
through it into the very very back, it's gorgeous and wide open and just
like a you know, wooded playground, and I do I go back there
because I know nobody else, though there was a lot of times I bring
my dog there because it was the grass wasn't too tall. A lot of
different things, a lot of different reasons, but it was really a lot
of fun for me for a very long time until one particular night. I
had not been doing anything really at nighttime. In hindsight, most like it
was because of what happened at night that we just discussed. But on this
particular occasion, it was twilight, and one of my favorite times to go
out is blue hour in the morning or sunrise the hour or the twilight hour
like the morning. And you know, it's like shift change, right,
Nocturnal things go in or out. They come home where they go out,
and the other things go to sleep where they go. You know, they're
heading out, so very active, very very active. And it's just a
theory of mine that the cryptids of the same way, but I would get
a lot of activity that way, so I tried it, and that particular
night I ended up staying into the night. And so the way this place
is lined up is there's this open field and it's always mo which somehow I've
never seen anybody there that most of them, but who knows. And then
there's thick tall grass and thick thick brush, and the trees have almost like
a network of hollowed out areas underneath you. All those big trees that cover
they grow outward and kind of grow. The deer love it because they walk
all under it, and it's it's it's almost like a little, you know,
hidden tunnel system down there. I like to refer to it as remember
when you were a kid and you'd take your sheet, you know, grab
your mom's bed sheets and I tuck all four corners in and make a tent,
and you know, you crawl around down there. It's something similar to
that. And there's these lanes that kind of go, you know, in
and out of the different trails that you could walk, and there's one that
is very narrow and it has these those trees and some of them overlap over
that tight trail, and I always see the deer frequenting in and out of
it, and I never really thought much about it. I didn't never get
too close to it. I never went down that particular trail for no particular
reason. Just didn't really seem important because it led to the long road.
It didn't lead back to where I parked. It led to the long road
that I had to take to get back there. It's just a little backstreet
with street lights on it, and it's way behind all these expensive buildings and
stuff that are just vacant, you know, never used. I don't know
why. So again there was that false sense of security too with the street
lights. So as it got dark, instead of coming back across the big,
you know, open area and stumbling through the darkness, I said,
oh maybe I'll cut that way and head towards the lights. You know,
I'll get in the street. I'll get in the street because that's that feels
safer. The feeling at that point was very uneasy. And mind you,
I do apologize because there is some trauma here where I I believe I tried
to bury some things, so I'm going to do my best. But there
there was an uneasy feeling from what I can remember, and I think that
is originally why I was trying to fast forward out of the you know,
wooded area and out into the fields and then back, you know, to
my vehicle or back towards that road and the street lights. It was it
was just giving me this sense of comfort that I thought I should I should
go for. So as I went down this it was tight lane and usually
it's very wide. In the winter time especially, it's very wide. It's
a very wide lane. But in the in the sick of it, it's
it just overlaps and becomes very very tight, and towards the street part of
it, it's i'd say it's about one hundred yards long, give or take,
you know, let maybe give her take twenty yards. So as I
get towards the street, I'm really starting to get comfortable and I really have
my guard down. And this is when the the discomfort or possible uncomfortability change
too utter fear and just I mean, sheer terror. And I don't want
to use the word attacked here because I feel like it's used too loosely.
But I was intimidated to a degree where I I don't think i've ever since
the military, taking my knife off my you know, out of my pocket
or off my belt. It came out so fast out of that thick underbrush
that I was talking to you about. It was like a cannon ball just
shot out of the trees. There was no winding up, there was no
you know, oh I hear you know, it's running, something's running towards
me like you would hear a horse gallop towards you, or you know,
or a deer running for a little while. It was like right out of
a cannon just took off like it was almost it was almost like they were
twenty feet away from me or and I just didn't know it. But it
lunged so quickly and so fast it was in my face within seconds. And
the best way I can describe it is, you know when you walk through
those Halloween haunted houses and you're just waiting for, you know, something to
jump out at you, and everything's in close proximity, and then all of
something, something just launches out that multiplied to an unequippable speed and a unequippable
fear, And the first one lunged out to the point where it came within
I would say three three feet. It felt like it felt like it's you
know, snout was in front of my eyeball, like an inch in front
of my eyeball. But I have to be realistic here and say I'd say
it was within three feet now. The second one lunged out, and I'm
backpedaling now as best as I can and scrambling for the street. And for
whatever reason they lunged out and pulled back, they could have done anything they
chose to. They looked identical to the ones I was describing to earlier.
That gun metal gray, if you will, But it's hard to say.
It's almost like a peppered gray, like there's maybe black roots, if you
will, And then maybe it changes like gray into like almost like a lighter
gray. And I don't know how to explain this necessarily, but it wasn't
really I don't want to say it was hair, because it was hair,
but I don't want to say it was like fine or thick. It reminded
me somewhat of a porky pine how they have quills. No, it's still
a hair, but it's not quills, but it's it's still a hair.
But it was just that like sleek looking very fluid and very like firm and
nothing I've seen before. So this is the time where I pulled up my
knife and started, you know, I screamed some obscenity that I won't repeat
here and utter your fear just coursing through my body, and they backed up
right back in. They could have done whatever they chose to me. At
that point, I had no chance. It's actually quite humorous looking back,
that I drew a blade on him. Just ridiculous when you when I when
I really look at it in hindsight, when I look at the size of
them they were. I remember they had this like cocked this cocked leg like
when they were standing up, like the almost like a little bow in it.
Uh, I don't know, I don't know if I'm explaining that right,
but almost like an elbow. It just had this little like not little
at all, but it had like a bend to it. They didn't stand
straight up, is what I'm getting at. I guess they had like a
almost like they were on a what are those things called where they jack jack
a jack a card jack like you know, like that very very massive,
though very massive, not as tall maybe as I've heard other reports I'd say
they were. They weren't massive, much taller than me, somewhere in the
six to seven foot range, probably closer to six and a half. And
I belned for the street, but I still had to go all the way
through now down the road under Now, now the sense of security I was
looking for turned on me, because now I was in the dark, with
woods on both sides of me. I can see a bunch of eyeshine lying
down, low and tactically moving. As I'm walking down this road, I
can see them bounding. They would close their eyes and move, and then
they would reappear, and then one would close size and moving bound and reappear
next to it, and then they would There was a couple of at least
three, maybe four, and they were very low, and they moved up
and down very tactically and really smoothly, and they went the whole way as
I went down. And the reverse side of that street light made me feel
now like I was on display, like I was a rotisserie chicken in the
middle of stopping shop or you know, wherever you shop at. That's what
it felt like now. The thing I wanted to get to most to feel
safe when I was feeling unsaved. Now totally flip the script. As I'm
going They're moving next to me and moving next to me, and I'm doing
my best to keep my calm and stay cool, but I know that this
is I'm not gonna end well. I don't know if I'm really processing much
about anything again. This is like where I noticed that I kind of have
blocked out a little bit of some stuff because it was just so so traumatic.
I appreciate you, Vick, because We've talked about it quite a bit
now, and I've worked through a couple of little things and understandings and have
gotten me to the point where I'm able to sit here and discuss it without
rushing through completely. But in a nutshell, I made it to my vehicle
and I was able to leave. I remember locking my doors and rolling my
windows up, and I remember I was leaning into the middle of my car.
I was trying to be as center as I could in my truck because
I didn't want to be close to the windows. I didn't want to be
close so they either window because I thought that I just wanted to be as
far as possible from the woodline, and there was one on each side of
me. That's how scared I was. This is the way my brain was
processing things and telling me to react to put myself. I drive sideways,
leaning into the middle of the car, uncomfortably, because that's, you know,
more safe until you get out of here, right And I did Eventually
I got out of there, but that was a short lived safe haven.
Now you always hear people say be careful because they'll follow you home, and
I don't know how that works when it comes to these guys. I don't
know much about dog man. I still don't. I respect what you do,
viculd really do, but I still I still have a from all this.
I still have a protection measure where I just keep a healthy distance and
a healthy respect and stay away because I know what they're capable of. And
this is where the story goes up to this point. These dog men not
one, not two, you know, there was multiple on multiple occasions.
Could have you know, I've done a lot of things to me, like
took me out, hurt me, whatever they so choose, and I still
walked away every time. Now it was different. The next time I experienced
them, I was at home. I live in the suburbs. The neighbors
are not are from one another, even if it's late at night. There
was a huge ruckus. I'd imagine people would probably come out, but I
was being tormented for quite a while. The first night was the scariest.
I'd say. I came out of my you know, I have an apartment
on the backside of a house and a little side entrance, and I came
out of my door and I lit a cigarette, and out of the corner
of my eye, I can see something that just doesn't belong, just doesn't
belong there, and I don't not really figuring out what it is yet.
Stark out there. Sensor lights aren't working again. I don't know why.
It's just something that kept happening no matter what I did to fix them.
And through this particular tree that's pretty trimmed down now, I saw something glowing
and I turned my head and there was these red glowing eyes and against the
moonlight, I guess it was somewhat of a cloudy night, but there was
still a difference between the black shingles on the roof and the sky. And
in between those dark shingles and that gray with a little bit of lighted sky,
there was a figure and it was on all fours leaning downward. It's
but was up towards the peak of the roof, and it's shoulders were and
you know, face were aiming down, facing down. And I have about
five feet between me and my fence, maybe ten feet giver take, and
then there's probably another ten yards at least between probably a fifteen yards between that
fence, and they're at home and they are a two story house and it's
a pretty big house. And that's where this thing sat and was staring at
me. And it was fully flesh as far as I'm concerned. You know,
it wasn't tangible because I couldn't touch it. It was way over there,
but it as far as it was, it was too close for comfort
for me. It had these huge shoulders. You know there's show dogs,
like pitbulls and stuff where they're like they're huge and like they look like little
tanks. It was like that, but it was on like a giant German
shepherd, a black German shepherd, and it was in pounce mode like it
was. It was, That's what I mean, Like its shoulders and arms
were like cocked out because I believe it was planning to lunge. Again.
This is perspective because it didn't lunge. In the end, it did not
lunge, and it didn't do anything in particular, but it scared me again.
It was scaring me. It was there, it was letting me know
it knew where I was. I'm just speculating because I can. I can
only do that. I can only do that. But the facts are that
there was that thing sitting up there watching me, and I had no control
over it. So I decided to start calling around and trying to get help,
which I'll breeze through that process because hindsight, I don't really know how
productive any of it was, but there was points where they were the help
I was asking for having me doing certain rituals and different things where you know,
I was trying to make amends with them, and some of it was
gifting. Some of it was odd things around the homes, similar to a
protection for a spirit or something to that effect. Then some of it was
leaving gifts out in the in the area. It took me a lot of
time. I lost the whole month of everything I loved. I had to
put it all in hold because there was nothing more important to me than making
sure that I don't you know. I wasn't trying to wage war with something
that could sneak up me like that. So I did my best to make
things better, at least as well as I knew how. Looking back,
I think what I was doing was I was gaining understanding, I was gaining
a mutual respect, I was losing fear, And you know, that's a
lot of a lot of maybe what what helped this situation After that first night,
it was the scariest night of my life. There were some days and
some nights that were silent, completely silent, nothing, sometimes for days at
a time. But then there would just be a night where, you know,
it seemed like every other night where it was just silent again and nothing
was around, and I would be outside and the fence would just start shaking,
and the trees would start shaking, and in multiple spots, and almost
like there was like multiple linebackers, like an offensive line just behind the fence,
just rattling it at different times, just hitting into it. There was
other times where it would feel like I was just being watched and I just
didn't know from where. I would say the hardest part for me was not
knowing when they were going to come not knowing how to fix it. And
when I did think I had answers on how to fix it. How long
was it going to take? Would it work where my kids are gonna get
harmed? Should I go to somebody? You know, there's so many things
that go in through your mind and and it really makes you feel like you're
alone in the world, and you really don't know what it turn through because
this is it just sounds like craziness. It sounds like it just sounds like
a crazy person when you put it all together. It just to a regular
person who's going about their life and has never experienced anything like this and has
never come across anything or even believes in anything closely remotely like this. You
know, there's there's not many people you can reach to. And I really
appreciate you, Vic, because you've done a lot for me, just even
in the past few days. It's been very helpful. And I hope I
did some justice here. But I want to round out the whole thing and
just kind of give some hope here and some positive insight to the whole,
to the whole thing. And I just always want to touch back on there
could have been a lot of times where they hurt me or worse and it
didn't happen. And there was a lot of times where they were here and
they again they could have did the same thing whether they were here or I
was out there, It didn't matter. They had the upper hand and they
knew it. And I think they got off on the fear. I think
they really enjoyed instilling the fear and me, and it did work for quite
a while. But after a while it seemed like everything died down, and
I didn't want to get complacent and just act like everything was okay again and
managed to get back on their bad side somehow or whatever the case was.
So I always constantly just have a mutual respect and try to kind of keep
my cool and keep my fear out of it if possible. People ask me
all the time, how are you so cool out there? Oh? Yes,
you know you, you know you. I don't know how you do
that. You're so whatever, you know, whatever different phrases people have,
I won't say here, but it's not it's it's what you have to do.
You know, you don't want to be cocky, but you can't show
fear either. You know, fear will keep you alive, but too much
of it will gain in trouble. And don't hang on to this stuff like
I did. I hung on to it for too long. I started to
bury a lot of it. I thought it was the best thing for everybody,
for me to myself included, for me to just sweep it under the
rug. But the problem with that is that lump in the rug you gotta
walk over in a lot of different times, over and over and over.
So it's best to just handle it. And you know, there's nobody better
than Vic when it comes to this stuff, and I'm a firm believer in
that, especially in hours. So I just want to thank you again,
and I hope I did a little bit of justice here, and I hope
my details weren't into spotty and whatever. But I guess that's in a nutshell.
Unless you got questions, Vic, Oh do I I've got a bunch
of them. I'll tell you what, though, Mike, we're about an
hour into this, and I don't want to short change all these questions.
I want to ask you about what you told us about your experiences. Would
you mind coming back for a part two so I could run you through all
those questions? No, of course not great. Well, i'll get with
you after we finish here tonight and we'll get that schedule for next weekend.
We'll take it from there. But before we get out of here, I
do want to ask you about something earlier this week we recorded an episode of
My Paranormal Experience where you came on and talked about your experiences. Actually two
encounters he had with a rake. One of those encounters involved a sasquatch saving
it from that rake. Did you have that rake encounter, the second rake
encounter, before you have these dog men encounters or after it? I believe
that the rake encounters were afterwards. Yes, they were pretty far after and
it was an interesting thing, you know. I think it was just more
or less wrong place, wrong time, and there was just it was just
coming out of those underground areas on those overcast days. And like I told
you when we did that's it's like a big, big federal building area and
a lot of underground tunnels and a lot of woods around them that people don't
use that have no trails, which tends to be where I bump into a
lot of the weird stuff. And yeah, that was a very very interesting
experience to say the least. Yeah, interesting, doesn't do it any justice.
That thing is sure sounds to me like you had bad intentions. But
yeah, speaking of that, if you do want to listen to that episode,
if you check out the description for tonight's episode of Dog Meant Encounters,
you'll see that I've posted a link to that episode of My Paranormal Experience where
Mike talks about those rak encounters. But having said that, Mike, it's
time for us to call it tonight. So I just want to thank you
so much for coming on and sharing the details those experiences with us. I
really appreciate it anytime. Brother, thank you well, you know you're welcome.
Thanks again so much, and have a great night.