Hello, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome back to the X Men ninety seven
review. To us our x Men, no our geek Ferst, I only
did it right once? Damn it next week, Yeah, a few more
weeks. I'm the clown prints of broken Men dressed now I'm joined by what
in tarnation, kirkln Patzer. I'm the cimitar tongue, Dylan Mus. I'm
the blue blush Taylor Field. Don't want to be the blue bush. I
could see you. Can you say that blue blush, blue blush, blue
bush? That's tricky. I don't think either any of them were successful.
But ladies show and we are here to talk about X Men ninety seven.
Uh, everything you know is down below. We're doing a double cast,
so we won't go through a bunch of plugs, but there'll be lots of
stuff in the newscast. We got Civil War coming out this week. We
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Kirkling get shuffled to next week. Kirklyn, you're welcome to join us,
since you know we had to kick from Monday and then you couldn't do Tuesday,
so I just went without you, which I feel bad about. So
you're welcome to join us next week if you want me, and I'll crash.
I'll crash the two man show. Sense welcome joined, But let's have
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talk about X Men ninety seven episode five. Remember it? And we last
week were respecting like, oh, what's it about? We hadn't seen it
thing I kind of learned a few days later like okay, minus some genosh
fuz so okay, cool, you know, starts off pretty light, but
I the Internet, i'd say, is a blaze or chat's been a blaze.
I'm very excited to get to this one, as we all are,
so, mister MutS. Obviously, last week was kind of, you know,
just a fun little side episode, got some Mojoe, got some cool
visuals set up for next week's episode, which is the second part of life
def So we'll be falling up on that. But this week, what do
you think about returning to our fellow X Men and what they've been up to.
Yeah, this this was a heavy hitter. I am going to remember
this one, that's for sure. Yeah, this this just has the prime
relationship drama of the Like this is probably like peak X Men animated series relationship
drama. So it was really fun for that. But then there's also a
ton of other stuff, a ton of other things going on, really high
stakes, really intense episode. We get to go to Jenoshow, which I
don't think is a huge spoiler to say, but I really liked going to
the going to see what the new Genosha's looking like. That was a really
fun time, a lot of kind of easter Eggs are like weird random side
characters in there as well. So I really really enjoyed this episode. I
definitely had some tears in my eyes by the end of it, so that
just goes to show how hard this animated show is going, that it went
all the way to tears for me. I will say, though, there
is an element of this episode and I don't want to get I don't want
to spoil things, but I think depending on what we see, probably not
next week because next week's gonna be the second part of that two parter of
storm thing. Maybe the week after when we get more resolution, I could
kind of retroactively dock some points, or I guess in this case, some
Emma Frost thumbs off this episode just depending on how certain things resolve. So
I'll leave it at that for now without getting two into the spoilers. But
if it resolves in a good way, I think it would just make this
episode even better. So I had a really great time here. Once again,
this show is just fucking amazing, mister Field. So I watched it
this morning, and yeah, I got on the I got in your d
MS right away, trous because like, holy fuck, this is just this
is crazy. This blow in my mind. You let this man in your
dms blue a new picture of his blue bush. I have a Patreon for
my dms and if you want that link, that's an only fan sir.
That's what that's called. That's true Blue Buss Blue. This, Uh,
this episode was phenomenal. I like, it's kind of like a weekly tradition
because Wednesday mornings are now X Men and Star Wars for me and my daughter.
She loves she actually like she loves watching this stuff. She's getting into
it, so it's super exciting. And this was just fan freaking tastic of
an episode. Oh my gosh. It was just like how I think I
woke up Madison because she she sleeps in usually when I get up early,
she comes downstairs. I'm like, oh, this just happened, and this
just happened, and oh my god, I just I'm I'm just shocked at
what they did in this episode. I can't believe some of the turns that
this episode had. I feel like this show our kids, Like, obviously
I'm watching it with my daughter and she's very very young, but like our
actual kids tuning into this because I feel like this show has so many caterances
to the adult crowd, especially the crowd that grew up with the original series
and that has grown into the more mature adult kind of part of their life
and they can tune into this show now and especially this episode. There's so
many things going on. It's like, oh my god, like the the
the heat that I is emanating from so many different character moments in this episode.
It is just like, oh, like girls just riveting so as much
as some softcore porn over there in this episode. It's just it blew my
mind. But when you sprinkle in the degree of risk and just chaos,
that's that's just typical X Men chaos, but like add a lot more to
that mixture as well, that's factored in this episode. It's just it blows
my mind. And there's just, as I said, so many turns that
just left me unexpectedly craving more and for a animated show to do what they
did in this episode, just to be on par with what we get in
some bigger projects in the MCUH. It's just it's crazy. It's absolutely crazy
how this show less than thirty minutes and it just is just hitting those those
peak higher tiers of marvel stuff that I really really want. And I'm so
thankful that we did that retrospective because I can really appreciate what we got in
this episode. It has a lot of depth to it. So if you
haven't watched all those other seasons, you should probably watch them back to really
feel the weight of this episode. Before you watch this episode, you need
to go back and watch the entire series and then listen to our entire retrospective
and then yeah, you can go watch this episode. There is no filler,
it's all and even if there is filler, we make that filler better,
you know, if you probably don't even know what but like for anybody
that's I guess it would be for watching and stuff like this. But you
know bone Breaker, like you don't know the legend of him, but you
want to know, So go check all those episodes. There's some geek first
gold in those episodes. I'm telling you it's worth it for that answer your
question. I like kids are watching it. Gwen Is, she's two episodes
behind, so I'm excited to watch them with her. But I think it's
definitely made for the people that grew up with it, And if there's kids
that watch it, then great, but I think they're there fully after the
people that were kids in the nineties, and like, I don't think it's
almost like Force Awakens where it's like, oh, we're gonna try and get
the old and the new. This feels like, oh, if we get
some of the new kids, great, but we're definitely just trying to get
the nineties like adults now in the Soldiers. That's how I think, because
I think this is like way more mature than the original show. So I
think that's definitely the demo is us our age, you know around there.
So mister pats or episode, Yeah, are we happy about this episode?
I? I truly, I surely just think this is peak. This is
like peak TV right now. This episode is one of the best animated episodes
I've ever seen, and I've seen a lot of animated things in my day.
This reminds me of some of like the best anime episodes, not just
like best anime out there, but like best episodes of anime. There's there's
so much going on here. There's the relationship drama, as Dylan was mentioning,
there is just some beautiful action in this episode, and like the animators,
man, I tip my hat to them, like they are just doing
some things that they were not able to accomplish in the nineties that we were
experiencing that first show. And you know, some of that's maybe due to
the limitations of the technology other time. But this show just seems like such
a step up, like production wise of what the first show is, and
even story wise as well. I think there's some great, great moments in
here. I was totally in tears by the end of this episode, and
I was just like shocked that this, like, this isn't even the penultimate
episode, This isn't the finale, This isn't like the end of an amazing
season. This is just the end of an episode. But I was totally
in tears by the end of it, and yeah, I think it was
so well done. Yeah, I was about to say a spoiler, so
I'm glad I caught myself there. But I definitely recommend the show if you
have any doubts. I feel like this, I don't know, every week
it's just getting I don't want to say better and better, because I feel
like last week's episode was my least favorite, but man, jumping from from
that one to this one, it Yeah, such a great show, and
I'm just so excited to see what's gonna happen. I think they are doing
so many things right and really just making me trust them. I think with
some of the decisions that they're making with characters, because that there has been
some changes for sure just going into this new season or this new version of
the show, whether it's relationships with certain characters. But I just think they're
fully they're fully nailing it with it, like they're having some some risky plays.
Actually, I guess I would say, like definitely some bold decisions on
certain dynamics, but I think it's totally just pulling through at least for my
own sake. And uh yeah, no, it's really really good, really
good. I don't know. I don't know if it's like because like you
said last week, I don't know if it's that the show's getting better,
but I feel like this is the appointment episode that it gets on other people's
radar, people that were putting it off it definitely. I won't say the
name of certain episodes, but I feel like there's two episodes, particularly for
Game of Throws people, compared to this one I think is old enough to
I don't even want to say it. It doesn't even matter. I'm sure
people see. But like there's certain episodes or finales in Dexter that's like,
oh that had everyone talking, right, and it's like if you weren't watching
it, then you started to. And I've seen that a lot, and
uh yeah, I echo what everyone says here. I have the same thing.
I'm sitting there one I am ball in my eyes. I'm like,
oh my goodness, I'm about to go to bed. I message Taylor and
then I showed you guys, the creator of the show that got fired a
couple of weeks ago messages sent me a tweet on my biggest tweet ever,
one point five thousand, like seen by seventy thousand people only beat some Taylor.
Taylor's on Twitter like two weeks and he'll tweet some of that trends.
But you know, pray my own trending treat. Yeah, prety pray.
But uh but yeah that this episode was so good and this is probably why
some of those my tweet is like trending a little because they're like MCU haters.
This episode was so good that it made me worry for when the MCU
does the X Men because I'm like, man, we've It's it's like with
Endgame. It's like when we got that's like, oh, well this should
be it, because this is the end of the whole saga, right,
But I'm getting this on a thirty seven minute episode on a random Tuesday.
I'm like, man, And granted, of course five scenes of build up
nostalgia, of course, but it's not just that. It's not just nostalgia.
It's not just yes, there's certain things that have to go in place
for the big reveals and surprises for the five years to work, but there's
other things that's just like the pacing of the episodes are great, or the
dynamic of the characters are great, or like to the action. The action
this is easily the last fifteen minutes is like the best action the show has
ever seen. Like they have certain characters just looking so cool and like just
doing things that you just would love to see and love to imagine and stuff
that. Obviously they were a little constricted back in the nineties, they did
what they could. Like this is not a budget, of course, but
well maybe not season five. We talked about Season five. They lost in
the budget there, but this is any of the artwork that had problem with
that's none here. I just love. And that's my other thing is too
is I love like what you're talking about Tarror, how mature it is.
That's the part where I worry when we get to the movies. There's so
much things in here where I'm like, I don't know if they're gonna do
this. I don't know if they're gonna do this. I don't know if
they're gonna do this. So I'm just so thankful this exists because other than
actual comics, this is the best piece of X Men media that's ever happened,
whether it's the live action movies, like I maybe have to sit and
saturate on or not saturate Cimarron in a bit for like how it compares with
that and Logan, because like Logan is like to me, it's like that's
like the Dark Night where it's like better way in a whole different stratsphere.
So if it's not better than Logan, it's tied. You know. It's
something where when that's Strange episode came out with what If, it's like,
oh, that was a really great piece of MCU. But it's like there's
still things that were better. There's like, I don't think the MCU has
done anything that's good since like Loki Season one or No Way Home. Like
this is like really good stuff. And obviously, and the reason I brought
up the tweet not just to break but I really hope that guy which this
sounds bad, but I really hope that guy was fired was fired for like
a really good reason. And it wasn't just like an only fans or had
some nudes online because him and whoever else we've talked about, Oh, they're
they're talking to writers. They want to have a writer by the end of
the ear re X men, whether it's him or even the people that are
left that wrote the show, stop having meetings. You got the crew.
This is the crew right here. You already have them in house. I
don't care that they're animator writers, doesn't matter. I give them the ball.
This stuff is so good. This is the best thing Disney Plus.
I know people some people went back with showgun holl that song. I'mant Disney
Plus proper. There is stuff on Hulu that is great, but I'm talking
Marvel, Disney, Star Wars, whatever the fuck, Like, who's that
Lightning kid? He was the Olympic guy person. Yeah, whatever he falls
under like in the Disney stratosphere, not search that stuff. It's up there.
Like I could only name a few like Loki Finale season one, that
and or episode with Circus, probably a WandaVision episode somewhere in there. But
this is up there with the big dogs. And I didn't expect that with
this show. I expected to be good and a fun time, and I
thought we'd have a good time, like like we I thought we'd had the
same amount of praising good time that we did with the original series, right
where there might be a stinker here and there and then something really fun,
something like bone Breaker had come up. But I did not think we'd be
talking about this like I guess it's a I guess for the MCU Awards this
year. It's not that big because there's only Deadpool, but like this would
have stacked up to me with last year or other years, like just phenomenal.
And it's one of these things that even if let's say the rest of
the episode sucked, just this episode alone is so good as like a contained
episode in a way, nothing can really affect other than what Dylan's gonna talk
about, which I feel like I understand and we'll see if it gets that
route. But I think they're gonna I think they're gonna hold their guns to
certain things, just with certain things people have been saying. So yeah,
just phenomenal stuff. If you're not watching the show, go watch the show.
Get on the bad week, especially a X person, like you're gonna
get the hype. So anything else nonspoils. We all recommend it, we've
all praised it. Nothing else. Okay, let's do this. So yeah,
if you're not seen it, this is definitely one I've been before,
all it's animates or whatever. This is one you want to go watch and
come back. So we'll take a break and we'll beat right back and we
are back. So where do we want to start at the very big stuff?
Do we want to go in sections? Do we go form? Beginning?
Where real? Because there is like a huge for thirty seven minutes and
this is for last before your handles up done. When we talk about episodes,
m Seward's like, oh man, it's only three minutes. All live
action shows take note, Like you can do amazing stuff with thirty seven minutes,
even less than that, Like this is under forty minutes and look at
how good this is. You know, well, I'd like to see the
budget of this and live action. I mean, you know it'd be quite
a bit higher. No no, no, no, no, no,
not that. I mean that the sense that when we see the live action
run times when we're like, oh fuck, Like I get what you mean.
But even before the big set piece happened in the like i'd say,
the third act episode, the whole episode from that point is still great,
like the relationsho dynamics, what's happening politically, Like of course you can't pay
for a master mold Sentinel, but you know, I'm just meaning like the
range of it. So I wanted to ask you guys about this because this
is I actually watched this episode twice, mostly because there was just so much
going on, and I was, you know, as I'm watching it,
I'm like writing notes and then I like miss something, and then I'd like
go back, and then I ended up just watching it a whole second time,
and which I'm glad I did. But one thing I was a little
confused about was we have this kind of opening of the episode. It starts
out with like a documentary on the X Men, which I think is really
fond of that. They have like a CRT filter over it to make it
look like, you know, something that would happen in the nineties, but
we have There's a whole bunch of stuff that goes on there, but one
of them is that eventually Gene and Cyclops are sitting on the bed and they're
having a conversation and then like another Gene, I guess, it's like Madaline
Pryor like kind of comes through that shadow round whatever they call it, and
it kind of breaks up their conversation, and then Gene starts questioning him,
and I was just very confused about what exactly was going on there, Like
at that moment, was Madeline Pryor like trying to communicate with him and then
like Jane was there and interrupted or intercepted or caught onto it, or was
it more that I guess that she just like looked into his mind and saw
that happening, or was it something else entirely. So it's funny. I
don't know because this I've read these all these classic issues a long time ago,
and I don't know if Madeline Pryor and him did it. But this
could be playing off because it's funny after that scene happens, the first person
is Emma Frost in the comics, notoriously Cyclops had an affair with Emma Frost.
But how they got away with it was so long is they did in
each other's mind, so it's like a FaceTime. It's very similar to what
Ray and Kylo did in Last Jennie First, where they would be they could
teleport using their minds. So that's what's happening is they are pretty much having
an affair using their mind. So Scott's sitting at in his bed, She's
sitting at the met but in their minds their mact and getting it on.
So Jeane probably sees Scott just sitting on the bed massive heart on and saying,
like, man, what's he just doing? Sit in the mansion so
hard she goes into his mind, and probably because she did before that scene
she said to Wolverine that her and Scott used to do all the time.
So I love that they set it up that Jean said her and Scott used
to telepathectly talk, so she probably think, oh, man, is he
doing that with her? So that's what's happening. They're having an affair.
In using the brain wave, so it is like it's not happening, but
it is happening with their consciousness. They're getting it on. Okay, sounds
good. Yeah, and I because I was confused at first too. It
when it is you got Madeline and Gene and they look very similar and you
know, almost similar clothes, and you just got the big Gene pop up
with him, like what are you doing? But you know I have to
say because I was telling them boss. You know, maybe he didn't say
this. So David, my gimmick co host, correct me if I'm wrong.
But Chris thought, you's meant this. I've seen him. A lot
of people give side clubs crap. What was Gene doing right before that scene
happened. She's macking Logan, She's macing with Logan, so she is so
self righteous right now call no him like you're doing this your mind. And
don't get me wrong, I love all this we called it, and I
was like, oh, I hope. Especially when Logan walked up and they're
just talking about the un and memories, I'm like, oh, they're actually
not gonna go that route. It's like that was just the thing. But
no, Jeane is she's feeling the vibes and man, how far have we
come? That? Logan's Oh, you've seen a lot of things in your
eyes, yeah, but no, nothing like you read. She blushes.
I love all the blushing in this episode. She kisses him, not the
other way around. She kisses him and Wolverine somehow's like, no, this
isn't right. You gotta be a Scott. But she doesn't look like she
agrees with that, and he's like, I like, how full circle we've
come? That was? I was that's when I messaged you the rock you
can feel the man at whatever at late night and that happens, like my
goodness, Yeah no, I'm I mean just mentioned about people, you know,
given got crap or or or whatnot. I definitely felt from Jene being
so aggressive on Scott in that moment, like it's one thing that he is,
you know, talking to the old Gene Madeline Pryor in these moments,
but from her stance, it was just like she couldn't possibly even understand like
how he could be like thinking about this other person, which for me,
it just it did not make sense at all because he literally had a child
with Madeline Pryor, which he thought was Gene. So the reason why he's
so in love with Madelon Pryor is because he's so in love with Gene,
and it just like went that way. He didn't choose to, Oh,
I want a clone of Gene, that's not like Gene at all, and
then I like, fuck Gene, I'm just gonna have a life with Madeline
Pryor. Because in that moment, like if the roles were reversed and Scott
got cloned and the regular Jean Gray had a child with clone Scott, and
then regular Scott comes in and like he's all pissed off at Jean's, Like,
how could you even be thinking about that child right now? It's like
that's his child that he had, like with the person that he fell in
love with. So from her perspective that moment, I wasn't really in agreeance
from her stance, I get to an extent if if, especially if like
now we know what we know, Madeline went her separate way and Scott should
just be focusing on Gene. It's one thing to be like still chatting up
with Madeline Pryor doing these little I don't know, psychic FaceTime meetings. Yeah,
that's one thing, but like it's a whole other thing to just be
like I can't believe, like she was just so aggressive and I felt it
they were making out though in the thing, they weren't just talking, remember
Cyclopes and Maline. I know, but it escalated and she just her stance
was as if it's like she couldn't even comprehend how he could be thinking this
way. And it's just really like thrills were reversed man like like that that's
not really But that's why I wonder she didn't break it up till they are
kissing, right, So was she just watching be like Okay, they're just
talking about their son. I get it. And then once they're once they're
swapping spit, it's like, oh damn, she turned in the storm.
They're like, God, it's a fund, you're not kissing my mad Yeah,
you make a point there, for sure. I think it's more so
just like like the AMMO that she brought to the argument, like like like
like that set her off, and then she just brought in these other things
where it's like case, she's writing some accounts, but like these other things.
I don't know if I don't know if you have the full stance to
go that far. But they're both some accounts, you know. That's why.
Like when Scott she's like, oh, I love you, he's like,
well, do you remember you love me? Or do you feel like
you love me? And she couldn't give them an answer. So that's why
I love too. It's like both of them have Yeah, they're both in
a very confusing situation and their show's doing that very well. And just just
the whole dynamic between having Scott with these two different genes, like that's just
such a head trippy scenario that the original show like like none of that was
even like uh or sorry, like no plot lines to that extent even showed
up like half of what this is like the show is just going for some
wild things. And that's just one thing we haven't even mentioned. Well,
I guess we have been talking about Magneto, Rogue and uh and gambits.
This episode kind of gave us a lot more filler or not filler just I
don't know what's the word I'm looking for info. I guess some more looking
behind the curtains there, Yes, but context. I like too that we
or Jane specifically mentioned that you know, even when she had the Phoenix inside
of her, she still came back for him even though all these people needed
her, which is a fun callback, but also yeah, once again,
like it's it is such a complex issue, and she mentioned mentions to Logan
that like, for the last while, he's been pretty distant, like they
haven't really been talking. They mentioned that a month has gone by two since
I guess the last time we've seen this crew, which is interesting because last
week we were talking about like how long was this period of time that Storm
was with Forge, and that's still up in the air because we have this
second part of it as well. We don't know where that's going to line
up with the rest of the cruise timeline. But yeah, it seems like
that maybe is more time than I thought it was, like this specifically the
Storm and Forge stuff. But yeah, like a whole month has gone by.
That's a long time for them to kind of be separate and for Cyclops
to be building this bond and for Gane to like, it's kind of unclear
like what she's kind of been doing in that time. So I don't know,
you were you guys kind of surprised to hear that that time jump that
we went for. I was glad we just got a time. As we
talked about Forge and Storm, We're like, yeah, it's nice to have
a number for sure. Yeah, I think one. I'd love to see
a replay what the Mansion has been up to, because that has to be
the most awkward month for everyone else, just has to be awful. But
I think she's just like what that scene with Low when she walks up with
the memories, I think she's just probably doing that. She's just like rewatching,
replaying things and trying to figure out yeah, looped out. So I
think that's probably it, and I like that they give some context there ve
been quiet for first. First things first, I was just thinking, hypothetically,
if Beast was able to analyze the genetic structure between Madelon Pryor and Jean
Gray and deduce that, Okay, this gene is much younger than the other
gene. Couldn't he technically figure out how many years her body has aged and
then doesn't have that swapped? Okay, stop, he didn't take that class.
He took all the other classes, but not the aging process one,
So of course it sucks. I think, yes, there should be a
way, but they'll head canon like, No, I don't think I'd like
that if that was what the solution was, if we just got that as
a plot point. Oh yeah, I deduced via your DNA that it has
been exactly three hundred and forty eight days. I think that would bother me.
That would feel too sci fi and weird and realistic in a world where
there's such crazy shit going on. That would be the thing that would be
the feather on the Campbell's back for me. I think Okay. Regarding the
relationship, I'm on team Jean. I think there's there's some merit to Scott.
Obviously we're doing absolutely in love with Matton Pryor the relationship built up everything
like that. But I mean I'm with Gene. You know, she's kissing
Logan because she's feeling kicked out, like the last thing she knew was Scott
was there for her and was about and so hang on, I want to
clarify your team thing for you. Are you a team like you think she's
right? Are you team just like yeah, go get it girl? You
were like, yeah, she's making out Logan? Hell, yeah, she's
right, she's right. Is your example of kiss Logan. Does that help
her case. I think she's I think it's not right for her to confuse
the situation, but I think she's confused herself because she's feeling conflicted because she's
being resented by Scott, and Scott's priorities are not her All the Scott's priorities
are focused on his son, and you just have Madelon Pryor having mind sex
with him too, which isn't helping the case either. So I think her
feeling, her feeling resentment is definitely one of the factors that is pushing her
towards kissing Logan, because well, she she she came back thinking I need
to see Scott. Scott's there for me. Scott said he can be the
love and affection I need. She's getting none of that, So who comes
here to fill that? It's Logan. Logan's like, oh, you know,
hey, you're that's different. Though he's not. He's dropping nice little
things. But he walked away. He could have he could have did her
in that yard right there. Logan could have had his way, but he
was a gentleman. He walked away. But I think more of danger room
five minutes, let's go, or the Shower Show. Oh yeah, I
don't know. I can be rightfully on usually because we you know, eting
back to Spider Man Retromine dial did it was like team MJ, Team Felicia.
I literally can't be on any team I'm fifty because it's for sure.
Yeah to me, there's no I'm I'm just like, you can't. I
guess I'm against Tay. I'm like, you can't be team Scott and he
can't be team Gene. Like it's way too messy situation to go on.
So and that's where it's the same thing, too, is like for this
month, it's the same thing of like, Okay, she's trying to do
this and be there for Scott, but like Scott said, is she just
doing that because that's what she feels she has to do, but she doesn't
really love him. She's like, well, in this like I was married
and I did love Scott. So it's kind of like if you just woke
up, like, what's that stupid movie? Oh, Emily, what's that
movie with Change Tatum and Rachel McAdams. Oh about Time? Not about Time?
No, Remember, she goes in a and she the vow. That's
what happens where he's married, is she goes in a coma. He she
doesn't remember him at all, so he's trying to make her fall in love
with and mcadam's is like, I don't love you, dude, Like I
don't even know you. So that's where it's like a tough thing for her,
where I think she's kind of almost lying to herself like yeah, I'm
here for That's why he called her out, like do you remember that or
do you feel that? And she didn't answer. So that's why I like
and like I said, Scott's not that's not the right thing. It's fine.
I don't know if it's fine to talk to Madeline. That's what you
have to talk Gene about. But they're just yeah, they're they're getting they're
doing it in the dreams. That's not yeah, they're mine, fucking literally,
So there there's steps being crossed by both of them. But I'm so
happy because I think they are gonna break up and I think we're getting Logan
and Geene at least for a short running man. I cannot wait. I
think even if it's a fling, I think that at least by the end
of it's tough because in that three parter they might put them back together.
But I was not expecting Madeline prior to be back in play so quickly I
thought it might be in the those final three episodes, even next season.
The fact she's just like I'm here on Genosha and they're just like, yeah,
two genes are better than one. I'm like, well, that's not
the case for Gene and Scott, but that's cool. So I legitimly think
that I think Scott might go to Madeline or Emma because Emma's we got introduced
Semma again, and I think they're gonna give Logan and Gene at least,
like I could see that be in the final episode that they kiss and Logan
embraces her this time, and then it's like, oh man, they are
actually together. Let's fucking go for a bit. I think they won't.
They're not endgame, but you know, I think it's gonna happen for a
little bit, so exciting time jeans to go around, everybody can be happy.
Yeah, one, And it's like it'd be different if the real Gene
wasn't vibing with Logan, but she clearly is right, so it's like,
well, she kind of wants Logan and wants to see what's going on there,
and if he kinda like, you know, I'm some late night calls
of Madeline. It's like feels like a good like handshake. Hey, let's
maybe pick this up down the line. But let's let's see what's going on,
and you know, and he and perfect she could save the mansion.
He goes to the general show. Obviously we'll talk about what the state.
But I mean, like they could go to different areas, right, Like
this is a good, clean break, so it could be cordial. Yeah,
it could be. Yeah, I want to touch upon that scene again
with Logan and Gene. Yeah, I don't Again, I've read the comics.
I don't know how much of a connection there is there. But I
just saw the scene. I thought, this seems like X Men Last Sex
three back to She's back in the water, right doing her thing. She
just have an affinity for water. Is that is that something she has going
on? Or water is just popular in our our everyday life. You know,
it's a common use in many shows, video games, movies, you
know, it's all. But Taylor almost it's like, I don't know the
beginning of times, so i'd say, from the nineties to now, it's
all there's always been a triangle between the three. The most recent comic is
now they're a thropple. They're just together. They have conjoining bedrooms, so
even Scott and Wolverine have got it on. They are like gay together,
like they just decided that's the best way, and it's that actually is the
best way for the three. I'm completely in agreeance with that, that that
they'll I'll never do them in the movies. You're never gonna have them promoting
a thrupple at an MCU Avengers End Game two movie first teaser trailer for the
New X Men, it's like shades. Yeah, yeah, yeah, oh
my goodness. But yes, in the comics they're always a dynamic those three.
Is there like a five dynamic relationship with Malon, Pryor and No in
the comics, like, I feel like she was long she was evil for
much longer when that did go down, and I think she kind of goes
away eventually. Usually his other muse is Emma. That's usually the one that
is between him and Gene. So there's been similar situation. Yeah, she's
got a good thumb. Similar situation where Gene was Dan. He went with
Emma, but Emma's more his his muse, so okay not, I guess
either this can sideways to another topic here where we can talk about something else.
But with Maddlin Pryor, I liked how she was paying attention to Gambit
in this episode. She's very tentative. I thought there was like some nice
compassion there. Again, this episode was so unpredictable. I didn't know what
was gonna happen, but I was worried. I was real worried. Where
you thought you thought he was gonna be like, you know, Madeline,
let's go. I thought it was. I thought that way too, especially
like I thought it was gonna be a Magneto and Rogue and then you know
you have Madeline Prior come into console Gambit but they're both missing something like That's
what I thought in our relationship. But I felt like a one night stance
coming because just me, he leaves his drink and she goes to fall.
I'm like where they gonna end up. So I'm happy. I'm not happy
what happened because some other stuff. But I thought I was like with Kirklam,
I thought Madeline and yeah, we're gonna get it on. Then it'd
be even more awkward for Cyclops. He's sae an ocean. Then. I
like the potential too of what that was going to be, especially just thinking
of like Jane and Gambit always kind of being at each others throats, especially
in the kitchen and whatnot, So to have this other version of Gene like
coming into yeah, just console him like I did like that dynamic there,
But I mean, what happened was You're right, though, that doesn't really
make a whole lot of sense because like this this Gene prior has also been
beefing with him too, so it is kind of weird that, yeah,
this change of Harp. Maybe it's just the circumstance, and you know,
a month has passed, she's kind of really embracing maybe a new identity,
and he hasn't seen him in a while, and this is him that kind
of thing, So I think it's also well that, but I also think
it's just she's she's seeing the exact same dynamic happen to him, that just
happened to her. We're in her mind now. Obviously that mind thing just
happened with Jean, but she might think that Cyclops and Gene are figuring out
are gonna be all right? Right, So it's like she's the gambin the
scenario where we'll get to Roga me Needo way too much PTA like in front
of it, like you didn't have to go that far. This whole like
it was awesome, badass, so cool. They're dancing the sky, will
get to where they are, but Gamma just has to sit there and watch.
So I think that's where I bought that. Even if they've had like
a maybe they don't get along, but she is seeing that. Oh man,
this just happened to me a month ago, where I was in love
with someone and now it's like, hey, you're not allowed to be at
that person. That's what happened with Gamma Ray is you're in love with Roe,
but they're gonna go get married and be fucking queen and king whatever their
weird titles are gonna be. So that's where I think the bond was.
Oh man, I've been in your situation, so I like that. And
there's I guess no other X men there too, right, there's just a
bunch of people drinking and have a good time. So I'm I'm glad she
Madeline made that that overture to him to try to, you know, help
him out a little bit. You know, I guess we should talk about
Yeah, i'sk about that before we get to the big big stuff. So
we oh, I guess the only thing do we have anything to say?
On the actual newscast? We had Cyclops lose it on a reporter because she's
krilling them on Hey, you had a son and you had you would as
Tea says the Blue Blush Beast. Who knows, maybe we did find something
Piece is gonna be up to because he's been doing shit all this season.
If there's any negative against this show so far, Beasts is like kind of
around. But they're doing a big report on trying to make people less scared
of the X Men and the mutants. But that clearly didn't go well,
and I think that's Is there anything else that miss at the beginning before they
left for Genosha? Not for me? No, is there anything that PORTIONI
news Beast quad, Yeah, I was gonna just emphasize the moment when Scott
just totally snaps. I I really like that because it's just really I guess
showed the mental strain that this poor Bastard's been under for just these last well
I guess it's been a month since since that incident there, but like,
losing his child is such a serious thing, and if he's able to just
be like super cool in this documentary, just trying to like, you know,
shake hands his baby's sort of thing, like be almost a political figure
for the in between of the regular folk and the X Men representing all mutants.
I did like when he just totally freaked. It showed that he is,
like, you know, he's a mutant, but he's showing these human
characteristics and responding how someone would definitely understandably react just being grilled about like just
trying to put on like a like a happy face to be that in between
of humans and mutants. I just really liked that moment. I feel like
Scott usually is always mister boy scout, and when he does wine it comes
off whiny, and I'm just like, a Scott, You're so whiny.
But here it really felt justified, and I did like seeing that here.
It felt warranted for sure, especially coming off of you know, the last
appearance, not last week's episode, but the one prior. Yeah, I'm
sure high, what do you think is more stressful the Phoenix situation or this
situation. Probably the Phoenix, I guess, right, because it's world ending.
But still they're pretty probably for this one personally because it's just so close
like Orange. Yeah, yeah, the child he knew for like a couple
of days and that's it. And then yeah, tough's been a tough couple
of years for Sminster Summers. You know, no grays either. He's still
got just really nice, young looking looks for sure. It's part of his
mute and power. I think, Yeah, I don't know why. I
know we saw the photo a couple of weeks ago, but I got a
giggle out the photo of him Adam Bryor and he's in his ex uniform with
the baby. We had seen that before, but I guess I didn't notice
just all that hit like it just it looks like a video game cover and
then there's a baby. It was just like, you got a giggle out
of me. It looks strange, I will admit, Yeah, yeah,
okay. So then yeah, they go to Genosha. The other characters it's
Gambit, Rogue and Magneto start off very hot because Magneto is taking any chance
he can to take a shot at Magneto or at Gambut, being like,
oh, this crashes. You're the worst for wear because you can't fly when
they land, and he talks to Madelie, He's like, yeah, I
don't even know why Gambit came. He's taking every chance he can. And
the pitches, hey, we want we get to Genosa, we get to
see huge statues of Xavier Magneto. It is a thriving it's not Krakoa.
But there's a new thing. When I told you about the Threatble where X
men created their own countries and they were away. You couldn't enter unless you
were a mutant, and it's like not the club and stuff, but it
was like a society of all these MutS living together, and like Unison.
This was like fucking Mute and Utopia. They get there their club and they
have their own restaurants everything, and there's a lot of people Sebastian Stam and
Myfrost like villains, but they're all getting along. And the pitches that,
hey, Magneto is gonna be the top of it, but they want something
like not everyone trust megno, So what could we do? Well, what
if you had an X men like kind of Mary, it sounds like a
rain marriage, right, And that's being Needle's pitches. Hey, rogue,
let's get married. And she's like, oh, is that the only reason
you've been doing this? But he says, no, I still care for
you, but you gotta kind of leave gambit. So that's a pitch.
She goes to Remy. We hear the whole situation of how they met up,
and then we'll get another stuff too, And then they go to for
the dance wore like we talked about, they have this in air dance where
they're touching the most central thing I think I've seen on all of Disney plus
of that moment she puts her arms up and he like puts his hands down
her chest, and the kids are like, what has happened? I haven't
seen this even like a Marvel show, because like the MCU shows, they
have no they don't fuck at all. So crazy stuff going on, Dylan,
what do you think about all this leading up to before we get to
the big stuff. But I'd say from the landing to the nightclub, Yeah,
No, I think Genos is just such a fun place. I love
just the music we had when we were going there was very like whimsical,
and it was just so upbeat and happy for a mutant setting, which is
so often just sad and oppressive. And obviously it ends up like that by
the end of the episode, but even just those few moments were really nice.
Getting to see Leech in there, and I think it was Pixie who
was recently I'm to Marvel snap that pink blob skeleton dude was so cool.
I love that guy so much. Nightcrawler, there's just like Dazzler and multiple
men are doing a little dance together in the streets. I love that it's
just such this place for like the arts and for people to be themselves.
But then there's also like this underlying element where again it cracks some joke about
getting apples like ten dollars, and so maybe they're they're still figuring stuff out
there. But I just really liked being there for the short time we go,
and I hope there's more of it. I hope this wasn't just the
complete destruction of this place. But I guess that leads into my potential beef
with the episode, which we can talk about a bit later on. But
no, everything just kind of getting introduced into Genosha, I thought was so
fun just as a place, as a people, you know, and as
the way that Asgard's always been boring as fuck to me, Like Janosha had
so much personality. So yeah, I hope that we get more of it
in the future. Yeah. I love seeing this this new skin on Genosha.
It's just complete opposite of I feel like what we've seen it before,
especially when it was you know, just basically a prison of the land of
prison. So yeah, exactly. So to come to this where it's almost
like a Wakanda right like, like it just seems like it's totally thriving.
It. It seems like it's an advanced city on just comparing it to other
you know, human capitals throughout the world. Like it it really was popping.
I love just the festival style of it, and yeah, just like
it being a safe haven for mutants and just them really like not necessarily showcasing
their powers but not hiding it. I think it was really cool to just
see the mixed bag, the melting pot that was just like the different types
of mutants there, and then everybody just being super happy and it just basically
being party time. It's like Mardi Gras for mutants. It was it was
awesome to see and like, yeah, I assumed that we're going to Genosha
just because they had mentioned before for but to actually see it, it was
was a whole nother thing. And I really loved No, I just was
it was a great place to be in the in the X Men universe,
a great setting, especially for some big action that is to follow, because
it's just so happy and positive. And then by the end of the episode,
it's just like a complete opposite, you know, flipped one eighty and
yeah, yeah, yeah, this this change of aesthetic, and I think
it's great that they were able to turn this place from being such a negative,
negative location to something that's just truly bountiful for mutants. And you have
human there too, what was her name? Oh God, thank you,
thank you. Cool to see she's she's kind of on the council of higher
ups there, and I think that's really cool to have that human kind of
connection and in the leadership. So I think that everything that they've been doing
is wonderful, and I just love seeing just everyday life and we get the
night Crawler popping in there. Given a tour of the grounds, which is
super cool. I really like that, and I just thought that it was
just so uh so wonderfully world building, quality of life, the kind of
just little things that they're putting in there that I just I could have taken
another whole half hour of them just going around just interacting and seeing everything and
how things are going. Like they're the cool advertisements too. There was one
that was basically like cosmetically aimed towards like if you have horns or antlers,
is a mutant kind of thing, like getting your nails kind of done sort
of stuff. So there's lots of cool little things in the background that's just
marketed towards mutants specifically that I thought was really cool. There's attention to details,
which I appreciate and getting to where they are at the uh I guess
the whole meeting or whatever you talked about that, Travis, Yeah, there's
there. That intimate dancing was just something else. Oh my goodness. That
was hot and heavy. Ye took the lessons like, I feel like dancing
while flying can't be can't that's what they're doing in the danger room when all
those sessions were happening. Well, I was gonna say I feel like we
got confirmation that they weren't getting it on per se. This was like the
this would have been them getting it on because I feel it with Rogue being
because what happens is they showed that, like we speculated when she was pounding
around with her mother mystique who we will return to her in a second,
but they show that that's when And I loved the meek Q one. I
don't know. They had Rogue wearing some stuff that was very like they are
going they are going home for a certain demographic there, but just stuff like
Magneto is like painting her, but he's using his powers and they're teaching you
get to see other bond. But when she went up and you know,
kissed him and then which was I guess at that moment she just decided.
I was caught off guard that she did this whole big dance and kissed him
but then said, ah no, I'm gonna still stick with Gambit. But
to me, that was implying that they weren't an item before. It was
just Magneto courting her and trying to make it happen. But yeah, what
do you guts think about all the revelations of when we met Rogue and Magneto
and her turning him down for Gambit after Gamut kind of not like stepped aside,
he pulled like Logan did earlier, where he said, well, this
is the case. What's gonna have to be then, so be it.
You know, I thought it was a shockingly mature response from Gambit, and
I was proud of him for that. Now it seems like it's been weeks
or I guess a month at this point, maybe more of him kind of
seeing the situation between Rogue, him and Magneto and realizing that he's maybe the
third chair in that dynamic there. But man, that line that Rogue has
where she says you can light everything up except for me, that just like
cut deep. That was that was really intense. And then he has the
comeback line with some things are are deeper than skin, and that's obviously the
line that she brings back when she's with Magneto there. So I thought all
of that was just really well written, really well done. I really like
too, how you know, Magneto is trying to make Rogue his queen,
and we've talked about how like she's kind of the empathy part of that like
the heart element of it. I love that the whole time Gambits just playing
with the Queen of Hearts and then he like chucks it into the fire and
it burns away. I thought the the symbolism of that was was really well
done. And then I also really liked the dynamic when we're going into the
backstory there of Rogue and how you know she can feel she can feel everyone's
emotions and obviously with Magneto, like her powers don't work in that way,
but she can still feel his emotions and all these issues that he has,
and that's kind of been like a blockade for them too. So I just
feel like we got like so many different layers going on there, and just
yeah, all the dialogue was fucking spot on him, was so good,
such memorable lines, and yeah, just really well like edited sequence too,
So I was a really big fan of that. And then the one little
easter egg I really liked was in that flashback sequence when they're in the library,
Rogue has a book called Savage Land Savage Hearts, which is the name
of one of the two parters the Savage Line two Partners from the original series,
So I thought there was a really cool detail. Uh just I wonder
what other kind of little episode titles they've kind of had hidden referenced in this
show in the background, or newspaper clippings or things like that. I'm sure
there's a lot of it. So just once again showing that the people making
this show love and watch that original show as well. So I really appreciated
it. Well, like you're talking of the lines, that's hence my name
is Magno just saying because he literally That's what I liked is he compaired him
and Gambit and he says, loving you makes broken men whole and it's so
funny. We talked about last week or the week before, We're like,
oh, who's gonna strike first? And it never ended up that way.
They both took their shots, but Gambitt ended walking away, and then when
we get to the finale, they had to kind of work to the final
parts. They had to work together. So I love that actually never went
that route of them going to blows. They just kind of, well,
if you're gonna because Gammutt completely understood and I don't know, I guess there's
still was like a there's it's like Magneto completely gets why Gambit loves her,
So that's where that was where it's like, Okay, now I don't think
they actually would have fought me be able to come down to something, but
when they're having those private conversations in a rogue, it's like, Okay,
it's not really like a jealousy thing. It's just like, okay, how
could I kind of you know, one up them? But not in the
not in the logan and cyclops sense right where it was always a very chest
puffy like I'm better, I'm better that sort of way. But yeah,
good stuff there. Yeah, I was equally as proud of Gambuit and being
able to just be the bigger man in that moment, Like it's so easy
to be the whiny person of like, especially if it's this person that you've
just been in love with, like for years now and you've never been able
to be in the situation that you can like full on touch them. And
then here's this handsome guy with long hair, you know, coming in lead
her the X Men, taking the woman that you love. Not only is
he taking her, but he can also just like touch her and all these
things, and they've had this history in the past, Like that's such a
hard position to be in. He was a total total gentleman about it,
and he said that, like they'll just be friends, like going forward,
if that's kind of the place that he has to be. And like I
I personally think it's just such a great evolution of the character from where he
has been because he's, you know, he's kind of been the outlaw,
like like the one that isn't always in line and just the whole team dynamic
of the X Men. But here he is not only being super loyal to
X Men, but also just like to Magneto, which is at times been
you know, an enemy of the X Men, and now this character is
not only the leader of the X Men but taking your woman like it's it's
it's a it's a tricky dynamic, but yeah, super loyal there. I
was very I was very surprised actually with just how the whole unraveling of the
rogue situation went with Magneto, how she ended up choosing Gambit in the end.
I mean I already laid it out. I thought Madelon Pryor was going
to be scooping in with Gambit, like it just took me for a little
rollercoaster ride this whole episode just solely on the dynamics. So yeah, I
I really did like how all that went off. I I think, like
the backstory stuff. I still kind of wish that came earlier on in the
season, more so just because I don't know it. It wasn't as spicy
as I was expecting it to be or hoping it to be. It was,
yeah, like we get these flashbacks on fucking just or just something like
more complicated. I guess where it's just like what was revealed. It's like,
Okay, I guess that is kind of just what it was when she
was, you know, rough and tough in with her old crew, working
with her mother and such, that's how she met Agneto. And it's like,
okay, yeah, that's I guess that's you. I feel like that's
like I guess I was fine. I think because it because it took to
episode five, it should have been crazier, Like like if they just explained
that in like episode two or something, it's like, okay, yeah,
that's that's interesting. But just the big build up in the Weight, especially
last week's episode, it being like so separate from that. It's like,
oh man, here we go we're going to Genosha, We're getting the backstory
on all this stuff, so there's anything, Yeah, if it wouldn't be
like a like it wouldn't take off my points or whatever like that. But
if anything, I wanted a bit more of why she left them. It
just kind of felt like dude's kind of got some fucked up shit going on.
I'm out of here, like he She was just like, oh,
I could feel him in the night, his sleep troubles. It's just and
I guess she could be younger, but it just felt like he has some
stuff going on and Rogue bounce because she didn't want to deal with it.
You know, I wish there was maybe a bigger reason why, you know,
maybe him crossing the line or doing something like even more so being like
I don't know, but you know, again it's not a major thing because
it's like they're just it's abbreviated version right, and we also did now of
course they did not mean this original series, but I don't care. This
will help me head can stuff. We always talked about what is to deal
with Rogue and Gamba, right? Are they a thing? Are they dating?
Are they not? Also? The touching things always an issue, but
Gambit said, oh, you never wanted to become official, So now we
know that that's why maybe Gambitt was off doing some stuff because Rogue didn't want
to didn't want to lock that down, probably more so just for him,
because she was being like empathetic and just like being a caring person usually what
Rogue does instead of locking Gambit to a life of being with nobody and having
the same thing where she can't touch anything. But I liked that we got
that confirmed because we've always debated out throughout the show, like what is the
deal? And that's what it is. It was just a flirty on and
off thing, but she didn't want to make it official. So I'm happy
I got that answer. Let's take it. Yeah, it's good to know.
Let's take an ad break and then we're gonna get into the mean potatoes.
We'll be it right back and we are back. So there's two things
I wanted to mention before actually got to those mean potatoes. Was one about
mystique. Did you guys see that the Senator or whatever was there with them?
And there is a screen gab of when Magneto says, oh, I'm
here with Rogue, and the senator like does a full like headcock. I
am believing that theory. She is mystique. I really think, Okay,
it's gonna happen. Yeah. And then the other thing, did you guys
see the watcher in this episode? I did not see the Watcher? No,
I thought Taylor would have. Did you pick him up? There?
Show was? I was like, Madison, look, look, I'm like
Taylor's eyes. So it's right when they go so they land a Genosha and
then they go back to X and stuff, and then when they go back
to Genotion, it's nighttime. This happens right before the fireworks nighttime celebrations going
off, and he's there. He cocks his head a little and he's watching
it all go down. I thought, Taylor, with your watch you rise,
you'd find it. But yeah, very that's and I never noticed that
stuff. I actually caught it somehow midnight. It's that's super cool that they're
doing that. That's so funny because I recognized actually that shape in the sky.
I'm like, that's such a strange looking moon, like like like why
did they headed that in? Like it's just such a weird animation. Yeah,
like man on the moon like, what kind of business is this?
But no, that's crazy good did you catch this one, Travis, No,
this is a fake one, right, Yeah, animation looks so strange,
like it looks so different than what the show is to or just the
font at least. So oh, actually, I guess we got two big
things here, because man, I'm so excited to talk about this because it's
it's been a minute, and it's something that they never paid off in the
original series. That's how we're reviewing them, Like I can't remember if they
did or didn't, or they hinted at it, but here we are so
Madeline, you know, she says, something's a Gambut gamp pins off first
of all, too gambit looking real fly in that suit. I love one.
Gambut's hair is down that white like Sean Connery Bond suit. Oh yeah,
he was larking to man. Yeah, crazy, Oh that Scarflator uses
a fucking Wepton. Come on now, yeah, come on now, he's
he's like, he's just the coolest man. But anyway, so she go,
he goes away, and man's just you know, strolling, had a
tough time, got caught in the throes of passion in the mind. She's
helping Gambit out. There's these political things, a lot of stuff. She's
just taking a stroll, and then all of a sudden, in the distance,
you see a very jacked up space techno looking bleach blonde hair man with
one eye running to her and he's talking. He's mumbling himself being about it
too late yet he gets to Madeline and he just says that he's sore,
and she doesn't really under san and then for a second his eyes flashed,
being back to regular eyes, the regular hazel eyes that she's seen before,
and then she goes, oh, you survived, and then he goes,
I'm sorry, and he says, mom, doing the big old reveal.
Now, Dylan, I have to ask you, is this did you get
spoiled on this a couple weeks ago when you're looking up who Nathaniel Summers was
m h yeah, okay, damn, which well yeah, yes and no,
because it was when I heard his name like in that episode. Uh,
I was like, oh, I swear like I know that, I
just like can't remember. So yeah, I kind of spoiled it for myself
a little bit, but uh, it was still it was still an interesting
moment in the episode for sure. Do you think that they're gonna follow up
on this in this season or do you think that's gonna be something for down
the Lobe? Well, so this is what I was mentioned at the very
top is where this episode could drop off for me and be not as engaging.
Is the same reason why I had this moment in Local season two two.
There's spoilers for that show as well, where they do a huge episode
where a bunch of people die, huge things, crazy shit happens. But
then next episode, oh, time travel, we just go back and all
those things are undone, and yes there's still good moments. Fucking Gambit sacrificing
himself. That's gonna be an iconic moment forever, but it's gonna mean a
whole lot less off next episode. We just rolled back time and it's Cable
coming back like thirty minutes earlier and telling them instead like, Oh, here's
what's gonna happen, and the I'm actually fighting it off because they have the
preparation and everyone lives, which I kind of feel like they're gonna do because
so many fucking people died. And so that's where I'm That's where there is
something on the top of my head. That's like, yeah, if they
do that, it's not gonna mean as much for me. It was still
a great episode, but I I hope they don't go on that rope.
But then at the same time, like they showed Sebastian Shaw clearly dead,
they showed Madelin Pryor clearly dead, Gambit died, Magneto they heavily hinted he
died. Callisto, she's kind of a random and he's dying. But yeah,
yeah, sorry, all of these spoke at the same time. Off
But yeah, like that's a lot of people that just kill off, and
like I feel like there's a lot more to do with some of them,
Like Gambit, I feel like this would be a pretty good arc for him,
but like Prior for example, I'm not done with that yet, Clisto,
you know whatever, but like still kind of random. I feel like
I didn't see she was on that she was on the ground like next to
uh Sebastian Shaw, and they looked pretty freakin dead to me. Her eyes
open though, or they closed. I think if anyone's eyes are closed,
blanket over them like it was, she looked pretty dead to me. But
I mean I could be wrong on that, but I'd say Clisto for sure
died in that sequence, which you know, yeah, same thing with Sebastian
staw like it. So I'm of two minds. I think you're right.
It's funny with the Loki episode because I remember this now that we're going back
to I thought that's what you're talking about. The Loki one did not bother
me as much as it did you, Like, I actually thought it worked
there. This one, I would be more on board with you where,
yes, you get those great moments, but if they do become four nothing
it does to me hurt the episode of the back half. It doesn't hurt
the relationship drama stuff and the reveal like that's all still the same, right,
but this whole big moment, sure, it's great visuals and it literally
is. And that's where the writer he put out a statement today and that's
where I think everyone thought this, but he just confirmed it. He said
how he got the show was he pitched this episode because he wanted to make
like a nine to eleven type episode, and that's exactly what it is,
right where Cablesism's sorry and then all of a sudden green and then buildings and
people are just dying left and right. And what gives me hope, which
sounds weird, but what gives me hope is they've said that in season two
the X Men gets new members. So that's why I would hope that,
Okay, you'd get new members because people are dead, right, Like that
would make sense if they've been saying this a couple of times. The showrunner
and other writers said, oh, there'll be new people that join the team
next year, so that could also just mean, oh, it's the same
team in new members, So I hope it's that. And the other thing
is he was talking about in this post. You can go read it where
his pitch about gam It was like nine to eleven and that's where Rogue turns
down Magneto and it's gonna go tell gamb that but never gets to. And
his pitch was that he wants to do a story where you know, sometimes
life is too short, you only get the allotted time. Like it sounds
done, but you can read his post to explain it much better. But
he wanted to be in a way where it's purposely left unfinished, because that's
the big tragy of it. And I agree with you with Gambit, that
would be it because I feel like, as much as I love Gambit,
he's my second favorite X Men. It would be kind of like a point
that he say he sacrificed himself to save even more people from dying right in
like a god damn like when they call him immune and he's like, the
name's Gambit, mo on of me remember, and then just that booms like
oh my goodness. Like that it's like just top notch, like cinema stuff,
right. So my hope is that they are gonna stick with it,
but I do agree with you for this one. If they do just have
cable shows up, it's like I figured it out, mom, and that's
the way they go. I'm fine with them maybe saving like one, like
if it's like Natl or so, I'm fine with them doing one. But
if it's like the whole incident is gone, I don't know. And I
don't fully believe Magneto is dead because it was a big one. That's like
if he's not on screen technically when he dies, honestly, for sure,
that's an off screen death. Even though I love the Sentinels did have that
line though, I mean, that's that's that's programming network right there, so
they can they really, they don't seem to have an opinion. To me,
it's like they just have a censor. So unless they're censors, fucked
up. But I hope it's something like Walking Dead. Boys will remember this
where there's maybe a dead body on top of Magneto and they think that's Magneto's
body they're reading it, but it's really Magnetos Leaches little dead body. Yeah,
Magneto, that's not no mega level threat, right. Magneto prime this
episode throwing trains around buildings. He was I love that train whip that.
Do you wonder like what Leech was thinking because Magneto looks down at him,
speaks German. Leech didn't understand German, and it's just like we're saved,
We're saved. He's like, what did you catch what he did? Save
say to him? Though eventually, well yeah, I subtitles on. So
okay, because what happened because the last time Magneto saw Leach in episode two,
he said, you'll never have to be ever afraid ever again. And
the last thing he says, the leeches don't be afraid. So I don't
know, but it was a nice full circle moment, and again same thing
as Magneto making the sacrifice play like what a next episode cable just like saves
everyone. He's like, guys, I couldn't save leech. I got everyone
back, but the leech is permanently gone. Yeah, put him out of
his misery. Just puts a metal through his skull to kill him they like
without pain and can't roll that back for whatever reason. I don't have much
out of this, but I just wanted to say, like, the whole
visuals in this sequence were fucking amazing, Like the first part when they capture
that chaos of an depending event like this going on, and they're like quick
cutting out showing like very little. I feel like I've not really seen that
done in animation before. It's more of like a live action disaster movie sort
of thing. But I thought they did it such a good job with it.
And then just like the coloration of everything looked so freaking good. It
just looked like an anime. It was. It was top notch. That
That's what I was saying earlier, were like, this is just reminding me
of like the best anime visuals that I've seen, and like, sure it
it is to that caliber where they have a big explosion or something goes off
and it's just like the high frequency ring and you're and it's just so so
much chaos going on. It's beautiful but terrifying at the same time. And
like that's where I was just like, holy shit, they're doing it,
like like they are one hundred percent stepping up there their animation game in the
show, and just just the moments of like a fast paced sequence. Maybe
it's when Gambit is on like the speed bike and it just shows like the
the the Giant Sentinel way off in the distance but just kind of like turn
and lock on and then like he shoots the laser and it like it's so
far away, the scale of the sequence seems so large, but but yet
like you know, if that centel looks at you like you are in danger
shooting that laser beam. So all of that was just so so masterfully well
done. Another one I would compare it to is you know, Trav's gonna
give me shit because I've been catching up on it, but invincible, like
like the animation in that show as well, Like it's totally up on that
caliber, and I'm so glad that that they're they're stepping it up in the
m c U X Men show. Well is this MU? I guess it's
not really. I had a bunch of people try to tell me that in
the tweet, because like, oh it is MC. Don't it's not like
this is not the same thing, you know, it's like, oh,
it's all connected. No, no, it's not. It's not one of
the multiversal worlds out there. What is. I'll give them that, But
I don't think I thought we talked about that on newscasts. It has no
relation whatsoever with it. I think they've made it in the sense of like
going forward. It's not going back. These are the X Men. But
if the Watcher's there, it's definitely connected in a multiverse, like even like
a what sense, right, it's connected in the way that like Toad maguire
is now in the mc like that connected. But it's not like Toby Toby's
there. He was in the m c U, he was in he was
in six one six New York. He's in the MSU. I'm trying to
find these fucking dead bodies because I'm trying to see question what you look on
a Sunday, the uh, the Ultimate like Sentinel here is this is not
Master Mold, is it? It looks like because it was deploying like thousands
of Sentinels. Oh, it's a jacked up Master Mold like the three Heads,
like the fucking Hydra. It's definitely jacked out. But I think it
is the Master Okay, and that earlier on in the season we already saw
like a piece of ship Master Mold. Right, this is what they were
working on. He was leveled up. Still it's been a month, remember,
so it's been a month. Yeah, so this is are we thinking
the same team behind this Master Mold's construction? Because I was thinking like,
is this like a Sinister plot? Because it's shooting green lasers. It was
making me think this is green like Sinister vibes like, but this isn't really
seen like Sinister would necessarily go about to do something like this didn't seem like
Sinister to me. But I don't really have much of a theory of who
it who it could be because trying to remember who was standing like in front
of Master Mold. Who is that guy again, like up on that big
perch at the end episode one? Yeah, they don't they arrest him?
Right? I can't remember, and then they, uh, what's his name?
We've had jokes about him a couple of weeks ago. It's not Trask,
but it's Derek Garrick. It's yeah, yeah, what did we say?
We said Garrick was in some other franchise all I can't remember. We
had a whole bit about Garrett be in some sort of movie because we did
a movie review and someone said Garrett accidentally and we're like, oh, they
traded. I can't. Well, they didn't let the guy out, did
they, because they were interrogating him in prison and he was could the hydra
thing though? Right, it's like those fucking Friends of Humanity have people everywhere,
right, So, but I feel like much bigger. This feels much
bigger. Well, that's what I'm just so curious about where because what?
So this is episode five? So we have six, seven, eight,
nine, ten, and the three parter is about Sinister. Next week's about
Storm. So I think we only have one episode, unless that you could
maybe I'm hoping it's not some sort of time. Oh, it's this year.
Eyes closed? Now do they put a body bag over though? Where?
Why would you put a why would you put a pillow on a dead
person's body. Respect you're right, but you're also I don't know, maybe
this is also bloodstone. Maybe this isn't actually Gene who I'm gonna say,
Prior is alive to me? If you die off screen or your eyes are
closed where if you go a couple of friends there and Callisto's like on the
and and that's where I think. That's where I'm hoping they don't have to
go back, because I could believe them having to replace. Was it replace?
No? Okay, let me just quickly. Let me just quickly debunk
your theory, because Calisto has a fucking pillow under her head too. I'm
gonna debunk you again. Here you me, it's not a fun you not
you. But that's a different dress. This woman and that one's wearing a
red dress. Here. Oh so she's like another probably Sebastian Shaw person or
whatever. Yeah, because she has I think I think that's like a because
the same dude, same ear ring, same uh. Next, let's see,
I think this is like a towel or some blanket they put over her
earrings. What are the earrings on? Don't right? What are the ear
and then the red neck band, choker, pull up yours again for this
You can to get reversed here, Taylor, but see the earrings are two
pieces where the same lipsticks are one piece. Though also look at the hairstyle.
Hairstyle that doesn't matter though she's got like long hair and this woman has
short hair. Right, why do we keep pulling up Dylan's image? You
got iveagees right beside other and just go back and forth with Google looks.
Plus this article called every death in X Men ninety seven. That short hair,
but look who cut her hair right? And the hair color thrown up
a building like her hair changed a bit. Yeah, look to click back
on the short hair one. If you look at the back of her neck,
that hair and Taylor, this is copy on the point that is clearly
gene and you know don't even pre many genes. So my whole pitch is
one I'm tey, that's not madelin private too. Even if it was,
if their eyes are closed, I think there's still fair game to be alive.
I think, like we said, mayor Madeline, there's too much juice
there. And I think this show, if it was, maybe as bad
as it sounds. The MCU Disney Plus shows. I tell you that's it,
Like, look at fucking what's your name? Best performance or career?
Who do we lose in Secret Invasion? What the hell is her name?
Not the dad? Who is episode one? Age? Remember? Best performance
in my career? If this mc U show, Because this show loves the
juice, I think even more so Matt Scott could show up be really worried,
and then he finds Madeline. It's like, oh, thank god you're
alive. Yeah, I need to be with you. So I think Madeline
is alive. But this is what I'm saying. If Gambit's the only one
dead Nightcrawl will take his place, and Magneto will still be around. I
think Cyclops could leave the team to go with Madeline, and maybe they'll rebuild
Genosha whatever. So I could see, like that's why Gammon to me is
like a perfect death. As far as let's not go back in time,
Let's not say as much as I love Gambit, we have five seasons of
them, we had him here and it's like one of those badass, if
not the most bastmall in the show. Like I agree with you, Dan,
if they if they go back and you know, maybe they can't save
Leach. But I don't want to sim gambit, you know, I don't
know, I don't want. I think I'll be especially salty if because next
week is like a storm fest. If we get storm and then we come
back the week after and then they undo it, to me, that's just
like, oh, yeah, well, we gave you those stakes for two
weeks. You could live with them for two weeks and then they undo it.
That would be even worse. But try not to get hurt of myself.
But it did help with Loki. So but that was MCU. This
is an MCU. So there you go, Santra Nova because Santra Nova.
No, that wouldn't because no, no, no, behind the Sentinel,
I don't, no, I don't, I don't. There's possi abilities that
Cassandra Nova could be introduced. There is a storyline that could use her that
echoes a similar thing to this, and I'm not on that camp because I
would find it odd that Deadpool's gonna use her and then Expo use her.
Yeah, it's Exavier's sister, twin sister was in the Womb Evil Twins sister.
That's my only thing. It's like I that'd be odd, but there
is aspects of the storyline that do lead to Yeah, this could be Cassandra
Nova. Yeah, I feel like it. I'm more inclined to think it's
someone that was in the OG series, and I just feel like that's what
this show is doing, at least for season one. Yeah, or I
guess it depends because we had a villain yet that's that was new. No,
I maybe that's it right where this is a chance that this could be
their cliffhanger for season two, and then they bring this in because like,
I don't think we need Apocalypse again. We're good on it, Like I
love Apocalypse, but we can get I don't think we're going to Apocalypse round
at this point. Yeah, so I wouldn't mind if no. I just
would be very caught off guard of Deadpool two n X men nice and at
the same time we're doing Cassandra Nova. I'd be very surprised that they wouldn't
even strike delays like who knew who you know? That's true, it's just
the fact of like you know for five years, or like Spider Man can't
find a guy on the glider and they're like, yeah, sure, let's
do the same villain for these shows, but nice's I guess on such a
smaller scale though too, right, So yeah, yeah, a little mini
thing. I like to gambits that specialment when he saves the Morlocks because they
were just like the X Men fucking hate us, They're not gonna save the
day, and Gambit pops through there. I thought that was a nice moment
with them. And then I mean that line of course, like we didn't
really talk about this party up, but when when Rogue goes down to his
body and she can touch him now, which is like it shouldn't be so
emotional what it is because of the context and Sugar, I can't feel you.
Oh oh, the tears just starts streaming down my face. It was
so so sad. And then the theme too, that sad theme, sad
theme. Oh god, damn, he should have killed the arcade thing this
episode. They should have just had credit yeah, just the hammer, yeah,
or just black screen that point, like it's most satisfament this year's ever
experienced sad score. And then like side clubs like he'd fishing, like just
have like the endgame signatures of like all the actors. Yeah, you know,
like that's to me where it's like, that's where I bring in the
hole and be like, oh, well, how could the MC do so
it's no, no, no, stuff like Rogue for the first time ever
can touch Gambit, and how can she touch Gambit her that's her only way
to confirm that he's actually dead. How fucking sad and tragic and just like
poetic that is like, and that's where I was waiting, like, oh
man, she's touching. I gotta see if there's a glove that's over.
And it wasn't just little stuff like his hair is half blown, like it's
melt, like he's like missing it, like he's bald on one spot like
obviously got blown up and stuff. But that's where it's like, man,
such a great way of you know, the second things do and you see
her skin on skin, you're like, man, it's over for him.
And that's where again, that would be a moment of like you don't want
to pull that back, And that's where I try and say nonswoise. But
this literally felt like game of throwne red wedding. It was Oh man,
I hope they stick with it because I think Gambit is, like I said,
not expendable, but it's a great arc. I think Magneto you can
find a way that he made himself a little bubble who knows? And then,
like I said, what an interesting situation. That's why I think Magnia's
alive too, because Rogue turned down Magneto to be with Gambit. But Magneta's
alive. So how awkward is that? It's like the guy that did survive,
Yeah, is the guy that you're like no, like I don't know,
but now I feel like she's like, well whatever, like you're the
second option. I feel Magneto won't be like he didn't bring her in and
stuff, and maybe it was like he couldn't even take that look at me.
I'm still alive. Yeah, yeah, how'd you survive? Well?
I use Leech as a shield against that big thing. I put his body
over mine and it fought like he thought Leech was me and it's an oll
mega level threat didn't and I was like, oh another one we charged except
for the shape of like leech. It's just like that was a perfect se
I just I don't know. I don't know how it survived. Let's make
a rogue, let's go bury down. But what a good what a good
Man, he was leech just he just just burnt like a tune. Yeah.
Yeah, they like Rob looks over, someone has a shovel, They're
just like literally shoveling them off the sidewalk. Oh and much to dial on
your Discimay. I also think this does mean Genosha's like just if they stick
with his ending, I think's like destroyed. The weird part of it,
though, is like even when we were getting those shots on TV or like
the X Men back of the mansion were watching, like the island like there's
various cities or at least like it's spread out enough where it seemed like it
was just kind of the Maybe it was the capital area, I'm sure where
a lot of the people were living, but it's it didn't seem like the
whole island was exploded or anything. And maybe it got worse. I mean,
I guess that was meant to believe that the Master Mold getting destroyed was
the kind of end of that sequence. But I'm hoping that there's there's still
hope. And I also feel like, like with Rogue, yes, she
was about to turn them down, but I still I could see, especially
with this event happening I could see this being a moment for her where she's
like, you know what, maybe I need to do this still be this
queen, because like we need to make things better, and this is the
best way I can do it is be by being in this position of power.
And Magneto is a powerful enough guy and he has his head screwed on
straight these days that he's the person who should lead and help fix these issues.
So I could see it turned around. I don't know. I just
wonder if, like, if he does survive this after that whole Senate thing,
if this is like we didn't want to go back to old Bengnito,
but like I could see this being the catalyst to him putting that helmet back
on and like that's it I'm going for. Yeah. I guess it really
depends who did it, who said right? Yeah, I just don't know.
That's my only pro not proba, but only thing of Magneto actually being
dead is the Magnets. I know, even after that speech, would still
like I'm gonna fuck these humans if it was humans or whoever it was,
right, if it's but I just feel like he would not if there's any
smell of this was human attack, it is over this time, and that's
where I think either he is dead or it is probably some sort of mutants.
I guess. The other reason why I think it might be over too
is the mutes might be they might be scared to live at Genosha now because
yes, in the world they got deal with humans, but in Genosha it's
a one stop. Here's where you could kill all the mutants. So I'm
not saying it won't ever come back, but I think it could. It
could be a minute, But I do like that pitch of Rogue kind of
taking on that responsibility. Plus that could be another reason why we get another
team member, right, like what if Scott and even if Magneil's dead or
not, Rogue, Scott and Malon Pryor stay at Genosha to build it back
up. That's like a few members gone, and then Scott's still in the
picture. I'm sure they would interact with the X Men. So I do
like that pitch of her just taking on or maybe she takes it on in
honor of Eric, right if he is dead, it's the way of like,
Okay, I'm gonna you know, she respected him, so I'm gonna
take that on too in his memory, bring on the work that he was
gonna do. So m uh. There was a quick shot there when a
magneto got basically hit back knocked into Xavier's big statue, Xavier statues falling over
and as that statue fell, I'm pretty sure that at least a few dozen
mutants got killed and crushed underneath it, which is very very brutal. Like
right after that too, because he he like had the image of them dying,
right and that's when he's like, I'll avenge them, and then that's
when he grabs the train, like he he was very much aware of what
it is there mutants in that train too. I mean, it's just potentially
maybe that wasn't shows a mute that can turn himself into a train. It's
just more he's just whipping more around. Honestly. That kind of that kind
of leads to that potential Sandra Nova theory, like maybe that was like master
Mold during this attack, you gotta make sure you take out that fucking statue
of my other that ye hate me and THEO or whatever happened. Yeah,
that idea, the twin and the womb, it just made me go malignant
and fucking Gabriel. Oh yeah, well that's why it's like for me,
when I hear she's gonna be in Deadpool, I'm like, yeah, Deadpool
can make that work otherwise, and I'm sure actually the anime world could,
but it is such like a silly origin, right of like Exager's evil like
womb twin that was in there, And it's definitely one of the things that
like ten or twelve or thirty years after the characters created, they're like,
what kind of weird backstory could we give them? And then they're like,
well, I guess the woman we haven't explored yet, so we go there,
and then it's something twenty years later when they're like, oh, when
we bring her back in, let's not do like, let's find a new
origin because like nowadays that's such a that's such like a such a comic bookie
thing. But hey, maybe we'll see. Yeah, do you guys have
I have some other notes? Do you guys got anything to throw it now?
I was gonna just comment on what you were talking about with Magneto and
if this is like a human attack, he is just full. I really
liked how kind of just the whole lead up of them wanting to make him
like the ruler of Genosha, and I think they're calling it like the counselor
chancellor or whatever chance the chancellor, Chancellor Palpatine that he's entering here, And
I just love that whole dynamic because I have liked this kind of redeemed mag
new that we've been getting. But I do like the idea of him having
certain possible nefarious things going on. And I'm not saying like he's playing all
the X Men for just fools. I do believe that he is honoring Charles
just wishes, I guess, to like really lead the X Men and and
do like just carry on Charles's dream essentially. I do think that is his
true intentions. But I still feel like he at the end of the day,
he still thinks like mutants are that that step up. And I like
this. I mean, now he's marked, Gambits marked, a lot of
other mutants are Deadosha's doing really poor. But at that time, I like
this idea of him just going from the leader of the X Men that has
like a very noble goal to kind of maybe sidelining that and just becoming like
the Chancellor of Janosha and just getting this like more ultimate power thing, because
ultimate power ultimately corrupts. And I just think the idea of putting that position
on a character that's already been an enemy in the past is just so intriguing,
and I was curious as to what was gonna come. Of course that
was earlier on in the episode before shit really hit the fan, but I
still like just the little breadcrumbs that they're going with this character and the decisions
that they're making, uh, because it very well could have just been like
I don't know, Emma Frost or Sebastian, what is it Sha or San
guys that's an actor. Yeah, Like to your point, Rogues threw that
out when she was talking like not like this is all you wanted was just
to take over and yeah, no one following Charles, but even her was
like, I don't know if this is like is this like are you doing
this for the accent or are you doing this because yeah, you get all
Like what better way to take over than get not just the bad mutons put
the good mutes believing in all one cause and especially after attack like this,
Like that's where I'm curious if he is alive. It is like a nine
to eleven, right, And that's something where in real life we've talked about
this before where that bonded America for a tragic event. Every American didn't matter
if you're Republican or Democrat, you were together. And I was like,
fuck this one country. That's what now Magneto think if he's alive, what
he could do with like a terrorist attack, yeah, on people like people
like Leech getting killed, like all these people like and now it's like the
hell Fire Club, the X Men, like they all lost people and now
it's like, are they not going to band together here? And there's no
Charles to be like, well, we need to be good and you know,
like they lost some people here. So true. Yeah, And and
like even just the moments when who is it the governor leader, the blonde
lady with the glasses that potentially could be a mystique. Yeah, what's her
what's her position? It's vow something that I know, it's I think she's
a senator. Senator, Yeah, like senator political type role. Because even
at the party, after it was kind of decided that Magneto was going to
be the chancellor, she comes in and she's like super obviously upset about it
because Magneto has been a terrorist in the past, and and she even drops
the line of you know, most most countries wouldn't allow a terrorist to become,
uh like the ruler. And then he counters with but yet they're like
they allowed their their rulers or leaders to be terrorists. And I just thought
it was such like a well said line. And he's like siffing his his
little champagne with Emma Frost and he got, oh, yeah, that's a
topical thing, like something that's debate about today, right with certain leaders.
And but like in that moment too, that's where I'm like, man,
this guy has plans, like like like, yeah, he's he's a nice
guy so far the season, but like, come on, he didn't have
to say that. I I just really like how so even though Magneto is
in a different I guess mindset so far of the season from where he has
been in the past, he's still Magneto, Like like he's still he still
drops lines like that and criticizes just just governments and rulers and whatnot. So
I man, that was like Chef's kiss for me when he dropped that line
there. I was loving all of all of that stuff going on well,
and even then a month ago he almost tried to kill a bunch of senators
right like he stopped himself, but he still was close to just opening up
a portal and letting them just freeze in space like like and that was just
Storm getting shot, and he was like he was there for a week doing
good. Storm got shot. He's like, that's it, it's over.
And then he calmed himself down. But it's like if he is alive,
and now there's I don't know, and they don't do a time travel,
I'd say there's probably at least hundreds of munes dead, right, so it's
like, how's that guy gonna respond to all that? And maybe that's the
moment where Charles does show back up. He's like, my friend, you've
been doing so good and he's like, okay, Charles won't do it,
but yeah, and then yeah, that club when we talk about I think
we've had this question like uh, like GV anniversary casts, like fictional places
you want to go. I want to go that Genosha club really bad.
I don't want to see people dancing that night, but another night, no,
the night maybe like uh, week two of opening all week one because
I got, you know, not the best waiters they're figuring out, but
week two, you know. But I love the color scheme too. Even
the color scheme, funny enough, was like pink and purple. It was
like Magneto's color. So it's funny, like everything was Magneto theme. So
but yeah, I don't I want to go there, so well said,
those are all my I know it, you guys covered them all there.
I gotta. I got a couple of notes to fire off, one on
the topic of whoa the topic of night Crawler being back the Magnificent night Crawler,
he felt like just very different for me, at least compared to what
he was in that original show Jove juvial, Like, yeah, maybe is
that because he's Genosha Now I guess they're just having a good time. He
just really seemed a lot more youthful. It seemed like the X ME in
First Class version as opposed to like like just the Plane X Men version.
I think it's mostly just from like last I keep saying, like last season,
but I guess like the last show. Yeah, technically, but like
he's he's super religious with all of his lines and and like he's living in
the monastery. He just has this like just like wealth of knowledge, it
seems, and like every line that he says it feels like it has substance
to it. And he's like he's like like Trent, like relaying a message
or something with every line he's speaking knowledge. Yeah, but in this one
he's like totally like in arms with everyone, which like I do like as
well, But I don't know. I I think I like the the more
version. I like it. I liked it more. I mean, I
mean, if you go back to our retros for the original series, I
didn't really love this this version of Night Caller that we had. So I
like this this version. And I think it is just that that Genosha love
something that the water in Genosha, you know, turns ut makes people just
a lot more. But he still had the religious element to him, at
least they mentioned that, but you're right, it kind of doesn't come across
in his dialogue, but they mentioned that he's like the religious conduit. I
forget what word they use, but he's like he kind of runs the religious
part of the island. And then Gambit had that joke about like you didn't
bring the killer monks with you, did you, which I thought was another
fun call back there. But yeah, he doesn't have a whole lot of
substance. I'll agree with you there. But I liked the tone of him
more and he he only he seemed like younger I guess too, like he
seemed more like a teenager than whatever he was back in the other series.
Same voice actor, which was crazy because most of the other voice actors sound
older where he sound younger. I was like, oh, it has to
be a new person. I looked up, No, the same one it
was back. So for me, I took it as there's two things.
One, I think Kirkle that version you like is gonna come back, because
so if they don't do a time travel thing, someone's gonna have to console
all these people about these dead bodies. And you know, kurk walk is
gonna have he's gonna have some knowledge. And he even dropped I can't memory
he said something about like sitting in love isn't bad or at me, like
I can't remember the line about like you make mistakes, but if they you
mean, well, you know you're absolved to your sinse I like that he
is again he is rog brother. He's like trying to like egg gambit on
like, oh you love her, Like just finally I go like tell it,
like I love that that dynamic was going on. But I also took
it as they're just trying to get over Genosha being so good, because this
is probably the first place he's been in a while that doesn't mock or scared
of him right away. That's what I took it as we're seeing him.
I think his motivation and him being that attitude was just to get over Genosha's
such a heaven that even this guy who the last seasons or whatnot, he
was much more recluse, much more you know, quieter onto himself. He
can be really free here. So because no one's gonna there's lots of other
crazy looking characters, but like I said, I think you're gonna get a
lot of that, and I do think he will be. I think there's
been other stuff of him the trailer popping off. I think he's gonna be
one that people that permanently joins the team, and I'm excited for that.
I think Nikrawler loved Nightcrawl, love the look, and I think there's lots
of people, are lots of storylines even with Rogan and the Steak we haven't
even tapped into. And I think the show between Cable on the Stuff with
Jean Wolverine and Logan, they're showing that they're almost picking up on storylines that
they never fully did. They like did a little in the original series,
but they're really fleshing them out. So I think he will, whether it's
whenever they add these new team members, if it's the end of the season,
at the beginning of next I think he's for sure on the team and
I'm looking for that. I'm so excited to see him pop off. Yeah,
that'd be fun. Yeah, well said of like, you know,
his mutes like him or Beast are Obviously, you're gonna see a lot more
pushback into our day life than someone like a Gene who just or Gambit who
looks like a regular person except for their crazy outfits that they wear. So
that's a good point that probably that definitely changes someone's personality too, and you
can just be yourself in your everyday life and the other people around you who
look like you and talk and sound and know your struggles. Yeah, I'm
waiting for that not to walk into rooms. Oh but a few my notes
is uh. My favorite thing when they alluded to sex was rogue just said
and then other things started happening. He's like such a kid, like it's
so good, but it still is, like I think even kids can pick
up on that one, that full line. Currently you're talking about nation shouldn't
allow a terrorist to be a leader, and then they new or responded back
with yet they let their leaders be terrorists. So such like a good stuff
there, just a little like we were talking about when the things were going,
like blowing up and stopping the scene to black the music. I love
that when Logan talked to Jane and then when she kissed him they cut the
music. It just went dead silent, such a nice little touch of like,
oh, this is happening because we talked about I don't think they've ever
fully really kissed, really, so that happened here. I loved that Logan
Had's eyes open. And then my last notice on the news they called Jean
Marvel girl, which I don't think has happened in the original series, that
it's her name many times in the combooks. I don't like that. I
don't like Captain Marvel, I don't like Marvel Girl. I don't like Miss
Marvel. I don't like there's no one called mister DC like. I don't
like when they do that. But yeah, Marvel, yeah, I don't
like any of that stuff. But a shout on the news, they're like,
oh you, and Marvel Girl was like, oh, okay, I
guess that's her her name there. But yeah, that's all the notes I
got. Continuing on with my notes, sorry, I didn't mean something that
was mentioned here. I don't know if they's mentioned this in the past and
not something I ever thought about, which completely makes sense. But Scott can't
see color. I guess all he sees is red, and that never really
like registered with me. I guess I just never thought about, like fully
what he sees other than just red. But no, when he was talking
to Gene just describing Nathan and what he just just imagines his eyes looking like,
which is of course exactly what his eyes looked like. That was kind
of he made a good guess there. But it's like in the first Brighter
movie when it takes the mask off and it's just fucking red. I thought
that was the night vision but no, that's just that's just their eyes.
Yeah. And then when Megan, you know, was talking about the basically
the promise that Charles asked of him when back when they were like met in
that bar in Germany or or whatnot, and and he says uh or sorry.
He quotes Charles by saying, Magneto, any dream worth having is a
dream worth dying for. And it's a nice line, but like, I
don't know why. When I first heard it, I'm just like, I
don't know. That just sounds strange, like any dream, like anything like
starting a podcast, am I We're dying to to start a podcast? Is
my dream? I don't know, dream to start podcast? I guess so
I don't know. I think I just hyper focused on that line where I'm
like, it seems very extreme for I don't know it like I want to
be a soccer star and I'm gonna die for it. But yeah, I
don't know. I don't know. If you're that into soccer, I think
you would die for it. I guess I don't have a real dream.
You're still young. Thank you, Thanks guys, thank you. Other than
that, though, that's that's all I got. Oh, I guess it's
it's nice to have Emma Frost like kind of back in the show and more
more of just being you know, a thumb up or a thumb down,
like like she need to get her the thumb up. Yeah, I want
her to be like a like a permanent resident in the show moving forward.
I really like her sass when Yeah, the senator walks up and I think
it's Sebastian like whatever is the matter, and she's like, is it your
dress? Like, I don't know. I just like her snobby attitude.
It's kind of fun. And like I said, she said some sort of
remark of like oh, day dreaming or something to like madlond Pryor, And
like I said, I think they put that in there specifically because I don't
know about Madeline's history, but I know her and Scott have done that,
so I don't know if that was them just kind of a tip of the
nod, or I wonder if even Emma was reading made off mind drift.
But yeah, she's somebody I think in play that could when I hear these
rumblings of there's gonna be new members, I think she could somehow end up
on the team, especially if Shaw is dead. I think there's a good
sha So. Has he been a part of the X Men, Sure,
I don't think so. I think that maybe in like an unholy alliance way,
but I don't think he's ever like had a key card in a room
and like attended a class or taught one. Trying over Dambit's new position.
Yeah, but I could be wrong. It's kind of the Avengers, right,
everyone's been an Avenger. So I'm sure I'll try and get that next
time. Anything else, I'm ready for some thumbs, some thumbs plural.
You think there's two, I'm going two thumbs strongly up, as I have
been with this whole show consistently, And like I said, if we do
that roll back and then we undo some of this stuff, I'll go back
in time like Cable, and I'll undo the thumbs I gave this episode.
But for now, but for now you're getting you're in two juicy thumbs for
me. I guess my only hope lastly on the Cable, Sorry, go
ahead, two fully erect thumbs for yours. Truly, my hope is with
him apologizing and saying he was too late. Is like he had one shot
to fix this instance and he didn't and that's why I want. Yeah,
that's another hope. I apologize everything you said. With that guy posting on
Twitter, it's like, okay, well yeah, I'm I'm pretty certain then
that we're not going to go back in time, but but you never know,
right, we have time travelers. They've saved the Savior how many times?
Right? Or else? I'm gonna go in that guy's d MS and
say this whole article you wrote was total. Also, he tweeted at me,
so I'll tweet at him. I'll say, hey, my fellow podcaster
thinks you shows bullets shug for yeah, mos a blue Bush, Yeah,
every every every thumb. I'm gonna be like I wish I was like God
from poor things and just had a more downstairs. I'd cut off all the
thumbs, just bring them all up. I do agree with Dylan. If
there is some going back, then we I would reconsider. But if this
stays and as it is and holds out as it is, it wouldn't be
like a dumb downer. But this is yeah, thumbs up, best episode
of the X Men so far, best episode in Disney. Plus I think
if not, I have to think about it because, like I said the
end of one. But it's like top three, uh yeah, top tier
Marvel stuff, like just everything as long as they stay true this this is
all timer and it's gonna be I just can't wait to see what they got
cooking. Obviously next week's the Storm episode, but uh, mister Field where
those thumbs at my thumbs are just fuck, they're they're not breaking, They're
just both up. They're not gonna bend. Soone tries to break them and
it doesn't happen. That's like she just got a breaking kink. I just
this episode is incredible. It was absolutely incredible. Everything about it was just
man, this is just this is a great way to start the day.
Just not for them, but no, not for no, definitely not for
that twelve one. Oh is that the sun doll? I? I just
I can't wait to see what other episodes we're gonna be getting into here,
and just Storm's reaction too, because I don't know if she has cable TV
out there. She's out with Forge just fighting this fucking owl and she's gonna
think that's the worst part day, and then she's gonna turn on the news
like, oh my god, like fuck, she's not evenna have her powers
yet hopefully she does. But finally is dead. I never liked him.
She's the one actually that set up for Yeah, there's just a whole,
like fifteen minute dialogue to Forge, but like how much she hated Gambit,
It is just so happy. This is the ended. I just want to
see. Okay, so yeah, we got Life Deaf next week, and
then okay, that has to be the Cable episode. I feel like,
right episode seven, Bright Eyes, if anything's gonna happen with Cable, what's
happening there, So we'll see, yeah, hopefully no, and then after
this tolerance is extinction, so we'll see. But yeah, Bright Eyes,
that would be Summer's related, I would imagine, So we'll see. But
next week we'll be back with some Summer storm and Forge see what's going on.
Thank you everybody that tuned in. Promis when you hear from us next
he will not be boring. Bye bye m