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Take them. Hello, ladies and
gentlemen, welcome to a geek first review.

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I am the clown Prince of War
Trust Hill. I'm joined by Hey,

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I'm doing with the what's some Licorice
taylor Field. Yes, ladies and

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gentlemen, we are here to review
Civil War. No, not the Civil

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War we were viewed many years ago, or retrospective and none that. Yeah,

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we've yet to do the real life
Civil War. But once we were

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on a contact on a retrospective,
maybe we will break down the whole.

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Once you start breaking out the history
podcast, you're like Dylan if if someone

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comes to you say, hey,
we're gonna sign this big geek for a

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million dollar deal. But you guys
gotta do a history podcast. So it's

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retrospectives, but on eventsive history.
What would you pick? Like what would

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be the time to think, oh, this would be a good topic.

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I thought your question was gonna be
what I would I signed that deal?

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In my answer, wouldn't you said
you wouldn't. If they say, Nona,

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go to your job again, you're
gonna be a millionaire. You just

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once we got to do a retrospective
on something in history. It could be

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anything. I mean, yeah,
there's gotta be something good. I do

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think about the in you know,
social studies in middle school, high school,

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I dreaded that Canadian history did not
do it for me. But maybe

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I was like young and immature and
I wasn't like I didn't have the brains

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enough to like realize how important this
stuff actually was. So I don't know.

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Maybe I should go back and visit
some of that again, but there's

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gotta be some I think i'd probably
go for a medieval era sort of situation

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or something like that. That'd be
fun. I'd either want to do Pirates

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or I would revisit the only thing
I remember. Actually, there's a second

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one I do. I think another
good episode would be when the Canadians burned

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down the White House. I think
that'd be a fun episode to do you

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remember that back in the day long
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White House. Oh, that would
be like the debut episode right there,

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just kill our American audience. But
then the third event, it's just Louis

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reel because it's the only thing I
remember from Social Guys. It's wild.

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Yeah, yeah, that would be
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Now I just want to make a
movie where we cast someone as Louis

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Reel like one of us, or
we pick an actor. I think we

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got to pick a hot like we
need to. We need someone to do

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not to you know, put down
anyone else's acting performance in this room,

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but can't be Louis. No,
no, no, we need like a

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Brad Pitt or something crazy like that. Nick Cage, he said, he's

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a crazy guys. Nick Cage could
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I could see that happen there.
I go, madd he's with us,

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says dude, I hate social studies, even yes, even man,

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I see in chat Taylor, are
you gonna fourth Quatus that you also hate

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social studies? Before we're get to
social studies was one of the There were

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a few things when I was growing
up that I wanted to be palaeontologists because

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I love dinosaurs, and then social
studies convinced me that I loved history,

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and I wanted to pursue being a
historian. But I realized there's not a

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lot of career profit opportunities in that. I realized that's more of a hobby.

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And so that's something in my adult
years now, I've really been pursuing

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it. Like in the history and
learning a lot more things, and so

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I've really been latching onto that and
it's just been such a passion to learn

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those types of things. And I
feel like that is very parallel to what

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you do with crypto clues. I
mean, you know, it's a different

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sort of thing, but you're still
doing a lot of research based on history

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and dates. Like some of these
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right and center. Yeah, yeah, and I think that's that's kind of

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they go hand in hand in a
weird, distorted way. Yeah, I

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guess. Yeah. Yeah, Well, speaking of distorted, let's talk about

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some war the way. Don't laugh. That's one of my best throw lines

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ever. Bizarrow. I think you
said last night bizarre. Yeah, you

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mentioned you threw that word out.
Bizarre really like where a car ride before

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the movie, like in after the
movie Bizarro movie, I can't picture Trevis

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say no, maybe maybe I've been
a way too long. Okay, no,

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before we even get into that,
I'll say that, but head on

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below for everything you need to know. I had a firm transition and how

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we're throwing off Bizarrow threw me off, But yeah, we do a bunch

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of Usually there's about three to four
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TV shows. Whether they're kind of
a clipse of a clips. I

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don't know what the fuck I was
saying with the clips, but their whole

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kin kaboodle of reviews, news stuff
like that. If you like, excellent's

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going on, we just reviewed that
one. Thank everyone to check that out.

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That's like our second biggest episode of
the month, which is like,

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I guess it's only been twelve days, but still just in one day,

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it's been been doing very well.
So that's been tons of fun. So

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yeah, go check those things out. Lots of good times here. Did

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we have a good time with this
movie? I don't know. I guess

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I will go first so I can
make sense of what Taylor said. So

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just a quick two minutes. This
is a theater story. Me and Taylor

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sat down as you can see Kirkland. We went to the west Side because

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we're like, oh, whenever we're
picking, Taylor is nice enough to usually

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pick the west side so he can
pick me up. I always say i'll

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bust, but he's nice enough and
usually west Side better TV or speakers and

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screen whatnot. And we're like,
oh, well, Kirkland's there, so

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we can also see the movie.
He like, I don't know, an

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hour reforced. They couldn't make it. He's tired whatever, he's making another

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shake clone. Who knows. But
so we get there. How do you

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purchased a ticket? He said he
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really, wow, yeah, very
rarely do any of us real back once

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we've actually purchased the ticket. Why
we're apprehensive If he's cover story one,

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it's true. And then when we
were in our chat trying to, you

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know, figure out we're gonna play
some card or some less this weekend radio

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silence from him. He's gone,
oh yeah, no, that has a

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tight tight least has him on and
let you know that, folks. But

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anyway, so now I have a
seat to my right empty, and our

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theater smaller theater, but was actually
pretty full. I was surprised. I

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think they did think they were seeing
the Second Civil War for Marvel, But

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either way, it's full. And
then I have this older gentleman and then

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he's with two ladies and there's a
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this is when the night starts to
go. Oh do you mind if we

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just shift over and of course,
like I'm not gonna make a big deal.

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I'm annoyed in my mind of like, just stay where we are.

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But I guess they want to be
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to shift over. That's fine at
all, and then before he starts a

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movie. Oh and then he's like, oh, could I put my cup

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in the cup ole here, which
was completely not needed because there was no

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one beside them, so they had
extra couple holders. But alas I'm being

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nice, I'm also at a civil
War screening, so who knows what type

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of Canadian I'm dealing with. They
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Canadian on the back of the trucks. I'm like, okay, give be

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Western forces. They could be eastern
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Canadians. So I'm like, yeah, yeah, no problem. And then

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a minute goes by and he goes, oh, you want some liquorice?

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Liquorice? Bro, bro bro?
How old is this sixty older? Six

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older? So they're been browed by
a senior citizen before. Yeah, So

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then the previous start going complete general
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we got furiosa kingdom of the Plan
on the Eights, and then Quiet Place

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and a couple others, but for
Furiosa, he said, this looks like

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a bad Max movie. And then
his wife like, it is a Mad

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Max movie. Yeah, and she's
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And then at the end it's Mad
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giggle out of that. And then
Quiet Place. The trailer for the first

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thirty second shows like all the scenes
of the last Quiet Place movie, right,

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and then at the end when it's
quiet and that's like you know,

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day one, he's like, oh, another Quiet Place. So he could

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play like he seems like he's a
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And then on the top of that
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It starts to a up another planet
the Apes like he's excited, but

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well, it was supposed to be
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Then they show Gorilla, a gorilla
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the rest of chimpanzees, but it's
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he goes, oh, King Kong
nice, And I guess in my mind,

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general allience might think, you know, they just did King Kong versus

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Godzilla. Maybe he thinks King Kong
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thought King Kong was in the next
Plant Apes movie. And that's why at

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first I thought, oh, this
guy's gonna be similar to Dylan's dad,

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where I'm gonna get some good laughs. But then this is where I said

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he was bizarre of Dylan's dad,
because then he became very annoying that kind

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of room. He's a guy that
purps, and just like just out in

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public, urps. He time he'll
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He'll put the popcorn down then,
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He's just oh yeah, so it
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but it'd be like gone for fifteen
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it's the type of annoying guy that
I don't think he knew. But then

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when I saw him pick up that
bag, went oh, no, he's

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gonna eat the popcorn, and no
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no one would just say o,
hey, like don't do that. But

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yeah, just like serious stuff.
Jesse plemms give him some sort of this

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whole paragraph. It's not like he
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He was using that tongue. He's
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Good for his wife, I guess
she's having a good time. But yeah,

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theoreticate everybody. As always. As
for the movie, I really enjoyed

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the movie. It was quite different. And I will say this in the

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most nonspoil way possible, because I
think it's definitely one if you have any

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interest in a twenty four political thrillers, anything else Garland has done, this

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is definitely somehow it's most like grounded
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whatever. Men was an ex macana, which is a robot ai and stuff.

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Right, this is could happen our
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this is where I definitely need a
second watch. I'm unsure how I feel

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on a multitude of things. I
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bad bad. I have some critiques, but I thought very very intense movie,

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especially the third acting on that is
you were on the edge of your

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seat the whole time. Is disturbing, intense. It is a much like

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I think it's a better version of
Men where Men was intense, but eventually

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like, Okay, this is too
much like this. It almost is the

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same thing where he's doing a thing
over and over again. But I appreciate

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this much more. But what threw
me off? And we reviewed that one

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trailer, and I think they put
out a second trip, but I don't

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think we ever reviewed, and I
never watched it, so I'm not sure

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if you guys could see anymore.
But I guess what I was caughugh guard

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about is this movie is you know, a civil war. You have a

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Central American Western American. Right,
that's how they divided them. I think

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in the movie. No, I
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and then I don't think they like
I think it's just the government is

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like the other side. But at
one point Plemens, he's like, are

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you central American or something American?
He they do he does like there is

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like a right, and oh,
I think I think he was just being

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racist in the Okay, So either
way, there's a division of America,

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right, all these countries and there's
a few on the fray that haven't decided,

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and I was very interested in that
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this movie is like if you were
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but only see Mary and Pippin's story. That's not a bad thing, because

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Mary and Pippen are great and they
got a great story. But I was

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under the impression, of course the
journalists would it would be about them and

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the catalyst, and I thought we'd
learn a lot more about this world in

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the system. You really don't like
the bad. Like the plot line of

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the Americas in the Civil War and
they're split is very much just the background

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of what our characters are going through, and it's about journalism. It's about

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how we've become dumb to things.
It's about kind of nightcrawler in a sense,

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where you're pushing people aside to get
your way. It's kind of a

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big morality of how numb have we
become to a certain amount of violence and

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what will we do for clicks and
everything. So I still liked it,

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like the Mary and Pippen equation,
I did not think it was bad.

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I guess I have some critiques,
but it was not the movie. I

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thought there's stuff like, I don't
know, it might be a minors boil,

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but like you never actually learn why
America's frayed you know, you never

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do. You don't know if the
president is a dictator or this is like

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he's being upheaved by bad people.
You really don't know, and that's what's

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interesting. I was expecting a little
more of that. So that's where for

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me at this review. This is
definitely one of those where I wish I

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would have a second watch, or
even a few more days, but it

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will require a second one. For
who i'd recommend it. I think,

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like I said, those those people
up top. I think the beginning's like

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a little slow. They are setting
stuff up. So I think it's good,

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but there was about half an hour
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have sped up maybe a little bit, but I don't know. Overall,

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great performances, some great, some
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like how they do it like it's
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expecting. But I still liked it. But I'm interested to hear everyone else's

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I was. I've been struggling with this

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the past twenty four hours. So
what do you think, mister Muss.

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I'm experiencing it was a lot different
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weird journey where from the first trailer
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though if Men was like kind of
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three or four weeks, for whatever
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want to see this. I don't
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mind. But yeah, I definitely
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journey. It's a movie about the
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of these characters rather than yeah,
like the overarching plot of like what's actually

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going on politically, And I think
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definitely understand where you're coming from too, or maybe you wanted a bit more

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of that backstory. I think that
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I was thinking of, which is
a great movie that I really want to

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watch again because I've only seen it
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this character really pushing himself for like
the absolute limits, taking like these huge

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risks just to get that the money
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of even similar to like the guy
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that one guy who was trying to
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shot of all time. And I
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with the way it's shot, I
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certain action sequences occurring and then you'll
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seeing those photographs that they're taking in
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who are the main photographers and seeing
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that was like a really great way
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this very parallel life that we're kind
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the movie. So yeah, I
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me this coming out of it.
I feel totally different than what I thought

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this movie was gonna be about.
And I'm really glad I saw it.

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I think this is really really great
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you mentioned, all that cinematography stuff
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know what the budget for this thing
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every shot seems so authentic. It's
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it's a twenty four. But maybe
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I am actually think wrong. I
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it's gottaven more than twenty Yeah,
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goes to show how authentic everything felt. There's so many explosions and like helicopters

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flying around and gunfire in the background, and all of it looked really really

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great, and certain shots just really
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the music choices in here were really
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maybe what seemed like more upbeat,
happy songs, but there was like something

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unsettling about them. There's a lot
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almost like that. In terms of
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like a quiet moment to like immediately
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gunshots going off, and it really
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is once again really just hammering home
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really happy with it, really surprised
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I remember being eight twenty four's biggest
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first ever movie to be number one
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was still pretty full for ours.
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one pm, which is a weird
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small auditorium and it was like half
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the Friday showings the midday are always
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little room like bow Is Afraid.
I feel like there was only like twenty

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seats total, and it's like half
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ten people. So I don't know. It seemed busy enough. Yeah,

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yeah, mister Field, Uh well, I mean wearing the same shirts going

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to this movie with you. I
knew with this is gonna be a good,

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a good, good time. But
you want to give some context for

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people that I won't follow you on
Twitter. I was I was going to

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pick up Twitter our Discord you can
get it there, Yeah, go to

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go to Discord. I was going
pulling up to Travis's house and I see

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him standing in his driveway ready again
and he gets it. I'm like,

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oh, don't we look cute together? Because I pulled my jacket. Aside,

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I'm wearing X Men ninety seven shirt
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seven shirt. You know, just
go check out those reviews. Great great

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stuff. Everyone of the theater is
like, I'll look at this cute couple

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where yeah, I hit my jacket
for the Marvel movie. Please like this

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this is a soore No, I'm
that's that's long gone, babe. I

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put on my hoodie before we gone
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guy. Uh, but yeah,
this this film, the I mean,

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you guys have highlighted some really really
great points, and I think that the

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trailer definitely does make you think that
it's going to be one thing, and

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when you're actually watching this film,
you're really getting a different experience and getting

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to see it in this different perspective
from these characters. I think allows us

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while we're not we're not press,
we're not media or anything like that.

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We're just people watching this as as
entertainment. We're looking for entertainment, and

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so when we're watching this, I
think that the things that are very disturbing

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and graphic, but they're very ah, not blind to it, but they're

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not receptive to it. And they're
just they're there. Those things are very

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heavy for us, and I think
that makes it a lot more engaging of

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a film for for for us to
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there's some visuals that are very disturbing
and very graphic, and it just makes

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it a lot more heavy and allows
to see these characters think Wow, these

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characters when the one times that occur
that they do react and other times that

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they don't. Again, we're just
we're watching this and we can really think,

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wow, this is just this is
crazy, and you can really you

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can really just feel all these different
moments. It was full of just really

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really heavy scenarios. And the thing
that's the thing that I do want to

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know more about is just, yeah, what led to these kind of political

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setups here? And the backstory and
just trying to like google it after watching

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the movie and trying to research more, you don't really get much aside from

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that math I got. I got
some good redd le you guys wouldn't believe.

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We got guy you know, he
was he was really friendly, joined

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this website, I got the password. But I think that ultimately this this

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movie, it creates of course a
unlikely if you've you've seen the trailer and

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you've seen the maps or whatever.
It creates this unlikely alliance between two of

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these these states in the United States. But there's there's just some very interesting

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things here that I think, you
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what's ever gonna happen, but who
knows. The world is not very much

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an ideal place right now, and
I think this film serves as a really

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good template for people to open their
eyes. And I feel like at the

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same time, it might serve as
a template that you can give people ideas,

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hopefully not taking the joke around are
gonna you don't, well, you

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don't. You gotta be careful,
you gotta be really careful. But I

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think that this if this movie can
the way that it's tackled, and it's

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not just from like a like a
Broie sense for people to shout the action,

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the military guns and all that stuff, and that that can be the

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wrong kind of incitement. But when
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one that's just trying to capture these
horrific situations and these horrific scenarios, and

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I think that it puts a different
light on it a different perspective where people

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can see this and think, you
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to it while it's creating the dystopian
future. Of course, there's still a

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lot of moments in this that are
intense, that are very real, and

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that happening in today's society. By
then, the larger overarching narrative of this

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movie, which is just crazy to
think about. I don't feel like it

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is far fetched. Of course,
they created certain things because they wanted to

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make this a movie, and it's
Hollywood whatever. But that's the scary thing

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is that society is just at this
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in some parts of the world,
and I like all that it's represented in

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some parts of this movie, but
throughout this film, the fact that we

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could turn on a dime and things
could turn into this crazy dystopian outcome,

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it's just it's terrifying to think that. And at its core you see crazy

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stories about like zombies and other world
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our just we're one of our worst
enemies, and you really see that emphasized

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in this in this film, and
it's just it's terrifying. And yeah,

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I think the the I could keep
going on and on and on, but

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I'll just I'll wait for spoilers.
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and actresses did great. I think
they really did fantastic. Well, no,

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again, like I said, like
to your point, that's where I

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was prepping people. There's no like
last act, big twist of all this

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not supernatural, but some weird reason
of why this is happening. It's like

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legitimately, like the way this movie
proposed is like this, these are things

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that could happen, right, like
with the military and how things are divided.

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I think it's smart with certain countries
because I know that's been the meme

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of like, oh well Texas and
California, they'd never get together. I

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think that's why they chose certain countries
to make it seem like whatever issues are

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happening in this movie or not the
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right, it's something that like in
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far right, I should to the
other side, very far left, very

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far right. It's like, well, what would they agree on, but

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this is putting them in a situation
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this point somehow California and Texas agree
on this. I think that's where it's

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smart. But I do agree where
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the world, especially with the state
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us, it is like the most
plausible, like January sixth is the thing

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that happened, you know, a
new president took over and then there's a

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big tack, right, So it's
just like it's not that far fetched,

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which is a scary thing. And
I think that's why. Yeah, this

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did get kind of joker thing if
I go, I don't know, if

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you just see this movie. But
luckily our theaters are okay, no,

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no, no Canda civil War.
You know, we just agree that South

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was bad and that's it. You
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it would be pretty good for our
Canadian dollar if this were to happen.

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Though, awesome, great, we're
now people come in US and we can

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finally get you know, I don't
want I mean the exchange rate right now,

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for the usd Yeah, definitely,

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you mean low or wait, which
would you mean it? Jane, dollars

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high? Remember when you look at
those prices, like an xbox and in

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America is like what like four nine? In Canada it's like five ninety nine

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or like Okay, so maybe maybe
I'm just been in my whole life.

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I thought the phrasing would be the
other way around, that'd be low.

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Because we're getting so much. I
don't even know what the prasing is.

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I just know what Taylor means,
so that's why I appreciate it. Yeah,

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there you go. Well, Asha, and we are gonna get in

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spoils. So if you've not seen
this, may think all of us recommend

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this in one way or another,
and I think the way like, I

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don't know, it's tough. It
go in with a with an open mind,

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and if you're unsure about it,
Yeah, I definitely catch it on

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VOD but definitely go check it out. I think we all say that.

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So we will be right back after
this, and we'll we're meaning full spoilers.

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Okay, we are back, So
where do we You know what I

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actually want to start. Kristen Dunce. You know, Kristen Dunce is somebody

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like a fine wine has just gone
because like I love Kristen Duntz honestly,

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like a kind of hero of all
our childhoods. But like I'll fully admit,

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when you back and watch those Spider
Man movies, it's not like her.

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It's not like Garfield and Emma Stone
right where Emstone I felt already was

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like a really really great actress.
I think Dunce is good in those movies,

407
00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:18,960
but they're also the script They're much
more like cheesy and schlocky right where

408
00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:22,079
I feel like if I would have
watched that at that time, I don't

409
00:24:22,079 --> 00:24:23,759
know if I would have thought,
oh, she could do stuff like she

410
00:24:23,759 --> 00:24:26,799
does in Civil War. But I
think she does such a good job at

411
00:24:26,839 --> 00:24:30,599
being lead and the toughest thing any
role to me in Hollywood is just to

412
00:24:30,599 --> 00:24:36,359
play the everyday guy, gal,
person whatever, like the person that's the

413
00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:37,759
best. As Tom Hanks, he
can be on screen and he just you

414
00:24:37,839 --> 00:24:41,039
buy that, Oh, that's a
guy that lives in our world. I

415
00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:44,359
think she does that so phenomenally,
but by choices, and I think she

416
00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:47,440
makes good subtle choices, whether it's
at the beginning when she's very strong,

417
00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:49,440
was at the end when she's freaking
out. I think she was a real

418
00:24:49,519 --> 00:24:52,920
MVP here, and I was really
happy. Not that I think she's back,

419
00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:55,519
because I've seen her get bear Bear
throughout the years, but just like

420
00:24:55,599 --> 00:25:00,759
it's she's just like she's like like
tuned all her acting sensibilities so much more

421
00:25:00,839 --> 00:25:03,240
like the time that we've seen her, you know. And it was a

422
00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:07,720
very really good lead performance, really
welcoming lead performance, a lead that I

423
00:25:07,839 --> 00:25:11,680
like because I think at times these
characters are like, I won't say unlikable,

424
00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:14,240
but there are times where you just
go, eh, like I'm not

425
00:25:14,319 --> 00:25:17,319
fully on board with you guys,
you know. Yeah, No, I

426
00:25:17,839 --> 00:25:21,720
was very impressed by her. Like
for a character who has to for all,

427
00:25:21,759 --> 00:25:23,519
say, like seventy seventy five percent
of this movie is like meant to

428
00:25:23,559 --> 00:25:30,599
be an emotionless character who's like completely
cut off that side of her brain to

429
00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:33,400
just do what she does. The
fact that she's still able to just like

430
00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:37,960
have you captivated to the screen and
really invested in the character is just so

431
00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:41,039
impressive. I think it is through
those like kind of subtle choices that you

432
00:25:41,079 --> 00:25:45,160
mentioned too, but then it adds
so much to the moments where she does

433
00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:48,839
get to I guess have more of
like a bigger performance or even just like

434
00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:52,000
once again the little subtle thing when
they go to that little town and she's

435
00:25:52,039 --> 00:25:55,359
just like trying on a dress and
like, yeah, you know, this

436
00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:57,160
whole movie, you don't see her
smile once, like maybe a tiny little

437
00:25:57,160 --> 00:26:00,720
smirk or something like that, but
that's like, yeah, it is such

438
00:26:00,759 --> 00:26:03,839
a big moment. Even then it's
like a tiny little smile that she gives,

439
00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:06,720
but it's still like so earned,
and you're kind of rooting for her

440
00:26:06,759 --> 00:26:08,200
in that moment and like this one
moment of levity in the whole thing,

441
00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:11,440
and then obviously, yeah, the
whole sequence at the end. I'm sure

442
00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:12,759
we want to break the down as
a whole sequence, but yeah, I

443
00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:17,240
getting into that too. I felt
like it was it was earned, but

444
00:26:17,279 --> 00:26:21,200
it was also kind of unexpected because
of how like one note in like a

445
00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:23,319
in a good way, in like
a specific way she had been with her

446
00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:26,160
emotions. So yeah, yeah,
just I totally agree with you too in

447
00:26:26,279 --> 00:26:30,880
terms of, like I feel like
I've not really seen her much beyond like

448
00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:33,200
Spider Man, and definitely not in
a long time, so it was cool

449
00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:37,200
to see her just do something completely
different. I think she was like perfectly

450
00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:40,640
cast for this role. She really
encapsulated what it was supposed to be.

451
00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:44,440
And go look at Christen Hun's interview. She's such a badass. I remember

452
00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:48,799
a couple of years ago that like
they did this round table of Hollywood actresses

453
00:26:48,799 --> 00:26:51,079
and you can look at I'm not
taking shots at them, but they're all

454
00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:52,720
like, oh, yeah, I'd
really like to work with more female directors

455
00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:56,640
and christs. It's like, I
make sure I work with like four women

456
00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:57,799
directors, and then I work with
one dude, and then I work with

457
00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:00,759
four. And she says all this
stuff like just this past time too,

458
00:27:00,759 --> 00:27:03,480
She's like, yeah, I'm never
gonn botox with plastic surgery, Like I

459
00:27:03,519 --> 00:27:07,000
don't want to look like a weird, crazy person. I talk about the

460
00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:08,359
Emily all the time. When I
see people, it's like, no,

461
00:27:08,519 --> 00:27:11,640
just please, just I get it, you're in Hollywood. But like Christian

462
00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:15,599
Nuts is like turn out to be
one of the coolest people. And yeah,

463
00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:18,480
it was. It was great to
see her here. And uh,

464
00:27:18,519 --> 00:27:19,720
I thought she did a good job. And I thought the whole crew had

465
00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:23,960
a good chemistry together. You know, yeah, absolutely, Taylor, Yeah,

466
00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:27,079
I I the only things that I
think I've ever seen her in is

467
00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:34,680
uh bring it On and the Spike
Man. So it's really really awesome seeing

468
00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:38,000
her in this film. I think
she did great and my fa one of

469
00:27:38,079 --> 00:27:41,720
my favorite things too. It's just
her. Yeah, her chemistry with everyone

470
00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:47,640
else I think was fantastic and her
her calm stoicness, just like when you

471
00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:53,440
first are introduced to her character and
this is like the young uh photographer press

472
00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:56,839
girl that'll we get to know in
this movie together and takes that baton to

473
00:27:56,880 --> 00:28:00,440
the face and like Kristen Christian's character
just goes in and like tries to like

474
00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:03,640
help her. Yeah, that was
that was crazy, and then the bomb

475
00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:07,640
goes off. It's just but she's
immediately just she's in there and she's photographing

476
00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:14,160
and photographing, and I like,
it's it's it's it's interesting because you see

477
00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:17,720
the young girl like she photographs Kristen
Duns in this situation that it was her

478
00:28:17,799 --> 00:28:22,680
name. Great, she photographs Kristen
again at the very end, we'll talk

479
00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:27,960
about that that outcome. But yeah, she's her character is just yeah,

480
00:28:29,079 --> 00:28:33,279
very very very intense, and I
loved how things just transition. For It's

481
00:28:33,319 --> 00:28:37,599
like the more time she spent with
Jesse the more she like she became like

482
00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:41,799
that younger version of who she used
to be, almost And I just I

483
00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:45,400
like that. I like that transition
between the two characters. I like that

484
00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:51,519
a lot. Yeah, it was
like a it was like a parallel storyline

485
00:28:51,559 --> 00:28:53,720
in that way, but like reversed, which was really cool of Yeah,

486
00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:59,039
obviously, Kay Jesse at the start
of the movie is, you know,

487
00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:02,599
just new to this world. Not
she's twenty something. I don't mean like

488
00:29:02,759 --> 00:29:07,079
a newborn baby, I mean like
new in this world baby, and is

489
00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:12,359
obviously very affected by everything she's seen. Emotionally, she like can't handle it.

490
00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:17,519
She does a good job of holding
it together early on, with Curson

491
00:29:17,599 --> 00:29:19,079
Dunn's character being like the complete opposite
of that, and I love that just

492
00:29:19,119 --> 00:29:22,559
as the course of the movie goes
along, like they kind of switch roles

493
00:29:22,599 --> 00:29:26,079
where by the end of this like
it's almost like heartbreaking how much Jesse is

494
00:29:26,119 --> 00:29:30,960
like cut off from her emotions in
that final sequence. It's disturbing, really,

495
00:29:30,519 --> 00:29:33,319
But then it's been like the opposite
journey. I thought was was really

496
00:29:33,319 --> 00:29:37,480
cool, And I like that comparison. You may have just like, yeah,

497
00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:41,160
seeing her seeing it as like her
younger version of her younger version of

498
00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:45,519
herself, which is obviously like really
almost like on the nose too much,

499
00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:48,480
perhaps from Sammy where he's like really
laying it on thick of like, oh,

500
00:29:48,519 --> 00:29:49,559
you guys are like the exact saying, this is exactly how you were,

501
00:29:49,559 --> 00:29:52,279
I remember you twenty years ago,
this is exactly how you were.

502
00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:56,039
You know, everyone needs a chance, Joel was saying to the other guy.

503
00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:59,799
So they're obviously like really laying it
on. But I think it I

504
00:29:59,799 --> 00:30:03,920
think it really worked for what is
like a really intense just like last few

505
00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:06,519
minutes of the movie. Yeah,
like I said, it's weird, but

506
00:30:06,559 --> 00:30:10,000
it's like a freaky Friday body swap
type of movie, but in a serious

507
00:30:10,039 --> 00:30:14,200
manner right where they both start in
completely opposite places and then they swap at

508
00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:15,920
the end. And I think for
the most part it's done well. And

509
00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:22,640
I was I was caught off guard
when I gotta get Christenin's character here,

510
00:30:22,039 --> 00:30:26,839
what was it would Lee? Yeah, when she like and the whole third

511
00:30:26,839 --> 00:30:29,599
act, which I know we'll get
into, but when it is that moment

512
00:30:29,599 --> 00:30:32,960
where she's pretty much freaking out the
whole time and Joel's just kind of having

513
00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:36,680
to take her place to place very
similar to again what he was doing Jesse

514
00:30:36,759 --> 00:30:38,559
at the beginning. But there is
that moment where she finally clicks in,

515
00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:41,799
like her brain goes off where it's
like, oh, we can get this

516
00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:45,799
scoop like what we've been waiting for. Right, But I wasn't expecting that.

517
00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:48,039
It just kind of like that happens
all the time, that can happen

518
00:30:48,079 --> 00:30:49,880
to anybody, right, But I
thought and I thought it was done well.

519
00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:55,000
I like that she wasn't like yelling
or crying about like it was.

520
00:30:55,039 --> 00:30:57,960
It was the right amount of sometimes
like no one no, it would just

521
00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:02,759
look like she was sometimes just undercover
from fire, right, But really she's

522
00:31:02,839 --> 00:31:04,640
just like a shell of herself and
she doesn't want to do anything in that

523
00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:07,960
moment. So I liked that it
wasn't and there's crying. Of course he

524
00:31:07,039 --> 00:31:10,920
was down, but it wasn't just
the whole time. There's choices and it

525
00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:12,720
was kinda in and out and you
know, she eventually snapped to it,

526
00:31:12,759 --> 00:31:18,319
and yeah, yeah, I think
the timing too, was was perfect.

527
00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:22,559
Of like just losing Sammy, who's
clearly I mean someone who's known her for

528
00:31:22,599 --> 00:31:26,559
like twenty plus years, known her
a long time and she's literally just having

529
00:31:26,559 --> 00:31:30,559
to wipe his blood off the seat
of the car and she has to like

530
00:31:30,599 --> 00:31:34,319
squeeze out the blood. Yeah,
and it's like so and that's like that's

531
00:31:34,319 --> 00:31:38,240
the scene right before that moment.
So clearly it's understandable why she's so thrown

532
00:31:38,279 --> 00:31:41,359
off because she's just seeing like first
tend not just so Sammy, but also

533
00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:45,680
those two other guys who she obviously
is known for a few years. Yeah,

534
00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:48,119
that like how real this shit is
and this is like the biggest war

535
00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:52,359
zone she or any of them have
really been in before, closer than they've

536
00:31:52,359 --> 00:31:55,039
ever been. So yeah, I
think there it's cool that there is that

537
00:31:55,079 --> 00:31:57,279
moment where she kind of clicks in, but even then, it's not like

538
00:31:57,319 --> 00:32:01,000
she she's like grown, she changed
in some way, because she's not just

539
00:32:01,079 --> 00:32:05,920
completely turning off everyone else and just
focusing on the shot. Like she's still

540
00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:08,720
obviously sacrifices herself. She's still looking
up for Jesse in that moment. So

541
00:32:09,039 --> 00:32:13,200
I like that there's she goes back
to her old ways, but she still

542
00:32:13,279 --> 00:32:16,160
is clearly like changed in this adventure
with her for the last few days.

543
00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:20,160
And that's why I was kind of
transition because I saw him about this with

544
00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:22,599
Taylor, and this is where I'm
like, I need a second watch and

545
00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:28,319
my issues with maybe the Sacrificer or
maybe just Joel in particular where we meet

546
00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:30,839
Joel seems like he's just friends with
Lee. They don't even insinuate that,

547
00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:34,920
like they've been like romantically involved in
anything. Just looks like they're partners,

548
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:37,079
right. Seems like he's kind of
a flirt with everybody else. He's a

549
00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:42,440
very kind of loose free guy,
and he's just like almost a source guy

550
00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:45,359
or like the interviewer because he doesn't
take pictures because I just find it funny

551
00:32:45,359 --> 00:32:51,240
at like many times he's just like
he has them by the car and he's

552
00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:53,680
like directing them around. But he's
usually near the end. He definitely is.

553
00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:55,839
But for the most part he's like
never really in the line of fire

554
00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:59,680
like everybody else kind of is,
which is like might kind of fit with

555
00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:00,559
some of it, like running a
news and he's not running, but you

556
00:33:00,559 --> 00:33:04,680
know, he's kind of the I
don't know, the thinker. I don't

557
00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:07,680
know, but either way, I
think they give us enough where Okay,

558
00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:08,960
he's not a complete ass. Sole
seems like that time he's a little care

559
00:33:09,039 --> 00:33:14,079
free, but he cares about the
multiple people when sorry, what's that guy's

560
00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:16,880
name again? That dies Sammy.
So when he dies, that's where my

561
00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:22,440
hold up was, he has such
a huge emotional reaction where that's why I

562
00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:24,319
need to watch it again. Maybe
I can head canon. That's just they

563
00:33:24,359 --> 00:33:28,519
are such in the moment and you
get the president. But I just found

564
00:33:28,559 --> 00:33:31,839
it so odd that when Kristen duns
when Lee does die, I feel like

565
00:33:31,839 --> 00:33:37,920
there's almost like no, no even
pick up on it. There's no almost

566
00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:38,960
like they kind of look and then
they move on, and I get the

567
00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:43,480
point and I almost can't buy it
and be fine with Jesse's character, but

568
00:33:43,559 --> 00:33:46,160
with Lee because there's a scene of
him at the military just literally with a

569
00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:51,240
cigarette, screaming out into the open, right, And that's where I found

570
00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:53,599
it, like to me, they
were at least in sinuway, and these

571
00:33:53,599 --> 00:33:58,039
two were also still very good friends, right, So that's where the little

572
00:33:58,039 --> 00:34:00,319
disconnect point from that was the disconnect
for me at the end where I don't

573
00:34:00,359 --> 00:34:04,000
need them crying and falling to their
knees, but just a little bit where

574
00:34:04,279 --> 00:34:07,599
it felt like this was just a
random like that newscaster who had the mic,

575
00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:08,760
just feel like, oh, that
was hurly Outshaw and they had to

576
00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:12,559
move on. So I wish there
was a little bit more with him,

577
00:34:12,559 --> 00:34:15,679
and even with Jesse, like she
does look shaken up, and I get

578
00:34:15,679 --> 00:34:16,840
that they need the story, and
I get that's the point, right they've

579
00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:22,480
gone so hardcore. But with Joey's
been doing this for a while and less

580
00:34:22,519 --> 00:34:25,199
than twenty four hours we saw him
have this huge reaction. And now maybe

581
00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:28,199
someone might say, oh, well, they might do that after the fact,

582
00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:30,320
but I only have that with the
movie, right the movie ends,

583
00:34:30,519 --> 00:34:32,360
which I think is cool. I
love that the editing the end credits is

584
00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:37,519
literally like the military standing over the
present, like a hunting photo, right,

585
00:34:37,599 --> 00:34:40,400
like really dark the photo just developing
in front of Yeah, like really

586
00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:44,800
cool dark imagery. But that was
something that I'm still it's not negative.

587
00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:46,760
I just need to sit on and
watch again because I'm a little iffy on

588
00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:50,000
it because when Dunk goes, she's
just okay, that's it, and then

589
00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:54,960
they move on. So I think
the differences between those situations is you had

590
00:34:55,280 --> 00:35:00,719
again, he had a great relationship
obviously close with Lee. You have Sammy,

591
00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:04,199
you have those two other individuals that
died too that he was good friends

592
00:35:04,199 --> 00:35:07,039
with. It seemed like that was
all like, that's three people on Tonnell

593
00:35:07,159 --> 00:35:09,679
that he was all almost in.
But you have the three people that he

594
00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:13,559
was friends with, and on top
of that, he feels immediately that their

595
00:35:13,599 --> 00:35:17,920
deaths were for nothing because the opportunity
was already passed, and so he's freaking

596
00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:21,519
out. He's getting drunk. Now, he's just getting worse and worse,

597
00:35:21,519 --> 00:35:24,880
and he's really really pissed off and
upset because they died for nothing and their

598
00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:29,360
opportunity is wasted. That's it.
In this situation, he thinks, oh

599
00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:31,599
my god, there's a chance here, I can actually make their lives count

600
00:35:31,639 --> 00:35:34,800
for something. I can actually get
here, I can do this, and

601
00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:37,559
he's fulfilling it. I think that's
why he left Lee behind too. He's

602
00:35:37,559 --> 00:35:38,960
like, this is it. I
can go and I can get my quote,

603
00:35:39,039 --> 00:35:44,480
and he's that's I think that's the
interesting and fascinating thing because you see

604
00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:49,000
it with Jesse earlier on when she's
saying like I've never felt so would she

605
00:35:49,039 --> 00:35:52,679
say alive but so scared in my
entire life, and when Jesse Plemmons was

606
00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:58,239
basically whole about to like gun her
down. So I think that that's again

607
00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:01,480
that rush of being alive and you
see or moving through the streets and moving

608
00:36:01,559 --> 00:36:06,760
up with the military. I think
that's just the sensation being in the moment

609
00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:09,400
and just like pulling through and get
in. It's like this is the President's

610
00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:12,880
here, like and no one else
is here, no reporters are around,

611
00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:15,000
like this is it. This is
our chance. We just got it,

612
00:36:15,079 --> 00:36:19,039
got through the White House, like
holy shit. So how do you guys

613
00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:23,199
feel about the About the final quote
from the president? I think I was

614
00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:27,840
maybe expecting something a bit more,
And I don't know if because the President

615
00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:30,320
says something along the lines of like
can you get them to stop? Right?

616
00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:31,840
He don't of them kill me?
Don't let them kill me? Yeah

617
00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:36,679
I don't. Okay, Yeah,
that's so clearly didn't. Clearly didn't impress

618
00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:38,440
on me because I ready forgot what
it was. But and that's where it's

619
00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:43,239
interesting, because I don't necessarily have
this critique. As I've seen the movie,

620
00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:45,320
I go, okay, I get
what they're going for. But when

621
00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:47,719
the critikause first, the movie came
out a massive praise, and then there

622
00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:52,320
was this wave of people saying,
well, not like a negative or that

623
00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:54,280
it's bad, but just that it
kind of cops up because it doesn't really

624
00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:58,119
pick a side. And that's why
I could see some people have like the

625
00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:01,000
quote should be like it's almost like
you're looking for something more meaningful, but

626
00:37:01,039 --> 00:37:04,320
of course, like anybody's gonna say, hey, don't let them kill me,

627
00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:07,159
right, So I think it's almost
that thing again where he's not drawing

628
00:37:07,159 --> 00:37:08,960
a line, because if you haven't
say anything about the conflict or the war

629
00:37:09,079 --> 00:37:13,960
or what's going on, you start
to shed some light on certain things that

630
00:37:14,159 --> 00:37:16,039
clearly the director didn't want to.
If you think that's a pro or con,

631
00:37:16,079 --> 00:37:21,000
that's up to you. But that's
where it was at of like like

632
00:37:21,159 --> 00:37:22,719
the quote being like, Okay,
don't let them kill me, and you

633
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:25,760
run that like what does what goog? Would that do? The paper like,

634
00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:28,800
oh this is what the like anyone
could make that up, right?

635
00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:30,880
So I do agree with you to
an extent that I was waiting for a

636
00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:34,920
bit more hootspa on the line.
But I don't know if that was just

637
00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:38,760
the point where it's just any like
anything from the president is like a headline

638
00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:43,079
because we killed Like it's just like
a success one. Like he like it's

639
00:37:43,079 --> 00:37:45,559
almost like he's saying that he comes
off as pathetic. So that is fitting

640
00:37:45,559 --> 00:37:49,840
that the president would say, please
don't kill me. So again, it's

641
00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:52,280
somebody I need to sit on.
But I'm with you where I'm not like

642
00:37:52,599 --> 00:37:55,199
sold on a complete Yeah, I
guess I'm thinking about too, Like when

643
00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:59,920
him and Sammy are in the car
during the road trip and they're talking.

644
00:38:00,159 --> 00:38:02,840
There's multiple scenes about this where there's
kind of speculatively, Oh, what questions

645
00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:06,119
should we ask them? What are
the good questions? Yeah, but like

646
00:38:06,199 --> 00:38:08,519
when they're doing that, that's a
different that's when they think that they're gonna

647
00:38:08,519 --> 00:38:13,440
sneak in there and get like some
question out of him, when the situation

648
00:38:13,519 --> 00:38:15,639
is not gonna be undecided, Whereas
at this point, you know, we

649
00:38:15,719 --> 00:38:19,960
have to imagine that like once the
president is shot down, like the Civil

650
00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:22,280
War is over. I'm sure there's
still a lot of turmoil. It's gonna

651
00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:24,320
be happening, but I guess it's
like a different situation when he actually gets

652
00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:28,760
there. Maybe that changed why he
chose to choose to have that question.

653
00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:30,960
But yeah, I guess for me, it's not like it fell flat because

654
00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:35,000
the whole Nion sequence is so well
done. But yeah, even still,

655
00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:38,000
I'm left a bit wanting perhaps I
don't know, maybe that's maybe that's the

656
00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:42,440
point. What I did like about
that sequence zone what I appreciate throughout the

657
00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:49,639
whole movie is that the press is
at all times looked upon very not highly,

658
00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:53,360
but other than the plumbing scene,
like important because it's almost as both

659
00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:58,000
sides want it documented so they can
say they were right. So the fact

660
00:38:58,039 --> 00:39:00,679
that they're about to kill the president
and Joels One says no, like he

661
00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:04,840
yells them like, don't you dare
do like and they all stop, like

662
00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:07,400
these are military, like they're much
more high. Well, actually don't know

663
00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:10,559
if they're higher on the food chain
right now, right because I feel like

664
00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:15,320
each side wants their photo, the
interview, the quote, whatever. So

665
00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:17,320
it looks like when they're coming out
of the Civil War, the Central America

666
00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:21,199
or South America, whatever it is, that oh, the press was here

667
00:39:21,199 --> 00:39:23,239
to document this, and we're in
the right because we have this, and

668
00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:25,800
that's what was so fascinating. Of
course, the press dies, but it's

669
00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:31,039
never like okay, like even in
our wars nowadays, like even when like

670
00:39:31,159 --> 00:39:35,599
nine to eleven happened, press weren't
safe. It wasn't like people weren't gonna

671
00:39:35,639 --> 00:39:37,519
not kill the press. If they're
if you're there an American, you're gonna

672
00:39:37,559 --> 00:39:40,239
get shot, right, But in
this and obviously they're all Americans, but

673
00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:43,960
with this, they have their hats
on their vests, and of course they

674
00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:46,320
could get shot, could be in
danger, but it's it's never like it's

675
00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:51,400
it's they'll be twenty soldiers shooting and
there'll be someone taking a photo, and

676
00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:54,280
the opposition is never shooting at the
press. They might cover because there's bullfiring.

677
00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:58,119
And that's what I actually really liked
is a choice that they put the

678
00:39:58,159 --> 00:40:00,639
press so high. And that's one
Pazza I did. Haven't scene that he

679
00:40:01,119 --> 00:40:04,679
controlled the room, which I wasn't
thinking what ever happened, because at times

680
00:40:04,679 --> 00:40:06,760
they are like you, dude,
I say, you move with me,

681
00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:08,679
so they're kind of talking down to
them, but not really they're just working

682
00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:14,000
with them. So I appreciated that
aspect of the press almost being having a

683
00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:16,239
if you had that badge and you
had a helmet and you had the press

684
00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:21,320
on the van, you almost had
like a like a safety pass, you

685
00:40:21,320 --> 00:40:23,119
know, like I get a jail
free card, which I found was interesting

686
00:40:23,199 --> 00:40:27,679
choice. And they were treated like
VIPs. I thought it was. It

687
00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:30,800
was crazy, like they're like they're
giving like their their hand signals to them

688
00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:37,239
as they're moving up staircases and coordinating, and I felt like they were not

689
00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:39,280
press I felt like they were actually
just members of the squad. And I

690
00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:43,360
guess they're doing their own type of
shooting with their own type of tool or

691
00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:47,599
like handheld device. But it was
really really crazy. Yeah, if anything,

692
00:40:47,639 --> 00:40:52,800
that felt like the most heightened sense
of reality of the whole thing,

693
00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:57,039
or the only thing that didn't feel
entirely realistic. And maybe that is realistic

694
00:40:57,039 --> 00:40:59,679
and I just have no freaking clue
what's going on, but it did feel

695
00:41:00,039 --> 00:41:02,360
it did feel bizarre, like,
yeah, how included they were from like

696
00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:06,280
both sides of it too, And
I guess I see that side that,

697
00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:10,480
Yeah, they want like I don't
know, history is told by the winners,

698
00:41:10,519 --> 00:41:13,320
that sort of thing, and they
want them to be there with them,

699
00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:15,719
and so it's it is weird or
I guess it's interesting then to see

700
00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:20,000
a character like Jesse Plemmons in there, and of course he has a character

701
00:41:20,079 --> 00:41:22,320
name, his name is not Jesse
Plemons, but to have someone in there

702
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:28,159
like that who does not give a
shit, it's like, who even is

703
00:41:28,199 --> 00:41:31,000
he associated with? I think they
ask him that he kind of like passes

704
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:34,920
off the question. So yeah,
yeah, it was kind of weird,

705
00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:37,360
but yeah, I think that was
very intentional too. It just the way

706
00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:40,400
the way they were like following the
command, like you know, they were

707
00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:45,800
jumping behind walls or like tactically moving
across things that they the right times.

708
00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:47,079
Like, it felt like that was
a very intentional thing. And maybe part

709
00:41:47,079 --> 00:41:52,079
of the vision of it is like
how much power do press have in how

710
00:41:52,159 --> 00:41:57,239
we all feel about the results of
wars and battles and things like this.

711
00:41:57,920 --> 00:42:00,320
So I think that's a pretty poignant
I was gonna say, if you were

712
00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:04,599
to put whenever, it would be
in America right left, for US,

713
00:42:04,679 --> 00:42:09,239
conservative, MVP, liberal, almost
every side is going to have people like,

714
00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:12,159
oh, well, I can't trust
the press. The press is all

715
00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:15,000
like they're feeding us bullshit, right, And that's the funny thing where we

716
00:42:15,039 --> 00:42:17,280
all go to the press. It
all give us information, but there's always

717
00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:21,039
this sense of can you trust them? But I think that's absolutely what you

718
00:42:21,039 --> 00:42:23,039
said, and that's what they're going
for, is like the press do get

719
00:42:23,039 --> 00:42:27,639
to control the narrative, whether it's
right or wrong. That's why they are

720
00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:31,000
important because they can like you said, after the war, make a narrative,

721
00:42:31,039 --> 00:42:35,199
whether it's right or wrong, and
that's that is definitely and that's why

722
00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:37,639
I wasn't thinking that. I knew
that our characters were gonna be journalists when

723
00:42:37,679 --> 00:42:40,800
we were watching like the trailers and
going into this, but I didn't really

724
00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:44,239
know the movie was gonna be almost
about that, right, And I think

725
00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:49,400
it's more a message on the press
nowadays and everything versus what America is gonna

726
00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:51,880
do, which I think there's somethings
there. By the way, Jesse Plum's

727
00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:53,199
chacters does not have a name.
It's unlisted, which makes sense. I

728
00:42:53,239 --> 00:43:00,280
was gonna say listed as actor.
I was like, god damn, but

729
00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:05,559
no. I think that's especially true
in this heightened world where they've talked about

730
00:43:05,559 --> 00:43:08,519
how like the they're like their cell
phones don't work, or at least they're

731
00:43:08,559 --> 00:43:12,880
not connected to a network anymore.
It's obviously there's still like internet access because

732
00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:15,559
the journalists in that one journalist hotel, which I thought was this funny idea,

733
00:43:15,599 --> 00:43:17,920
there's one place that all journalists tend
to go, probably because it has

734
00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:22,079
a good internet connection so they can
upload their photos. But then so there

735
00:43:22,119 --> 00:43:23,960
obviously it sucks there too. Remember
she's like, oh it's so slow,

736
00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:28,079
and like, yeah, it cuts
out the power. So yeah, Like

737
00:43:28,119 --> 00:43:32,280
even though there is still some you
know way that people are connecting across various

738
00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:35,800
states or whatever, like, there
is still that connection, but there's definitely

739
00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:37,199
a lot less of it, and
so that probably puts even more of a

740
00:43:37,199 --> 00:43:43,920
focus on what the press says,
and people are looking towards that as information,

741
00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:47,159
and the more engaging the press can
be by getting these better shots or

742
00:43:47,199 --> 00:43:51,000
having these better stories and having the
better quotes, there are gonna be the

743
00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:53,679
things that circulate more, especially in
this time when there's a lot less circulation,

744
00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:57,719
which that really makes you think if
something like this were to go down

745
00:43:58,119 --> 00:44:00,239
and we had like, you know, not sort connections that we do now,

746
00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:04,760
or I can't just go on discord
and ask you guys, like what's

747
00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:07,840
going on or something like what what
would we believe? Or how would we

748
00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:10,800
choose what to believe? It's kind
of interesting. I think I'd like as

749
00:44:12,159 --> 00:44:14,400
sad as I mean sound in the
movie, I feel like I'd have to

750
00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:17,039
be like Lee's parents and Jesse's parents, where you're just gonna farm and pretend

751
00:44:17,079 --> 00:44:21,400
it's not happening. That might be
the best course of action because and I

752
00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:23,079
think it's almost a narrative too.
On we see that all the time,

753
00:44:23,159 --> 00:44:28,840
right, And we have the podcast
like if you get your podcast review earlier

754
00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:31,400
when they search for, you know, the Civil War review, the X

755
00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:35,360
Men review, yours is gonna pop
up first, right, So we're on

756
00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:39,199
them. We're on a small scale, but that is the news today,

757
00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:43,320
right of like people all the time
like teams you gets and ship and they

758
00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:46,719
don't care. They'll post announcement about
people's celebrities death before it's even out there,

759
00:44:46,719 --> 00:44:50,239
and the family doesn't want that,
right, But because of the first

760
00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:52,599
and it's out there, well,
we kind of win, right. So

761
00:44:52,119 --> 00:44:59,559
it's definitely that hotel everything and how
competitive because even with Sammy, they're joking

762
00:44:59,599 --> 00:45:00,400
about it, but he's like,
oh, where are you guys going?

763
00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:04,159
Like oh, like do you just
want to know what we're up to or

764
00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:07,719
exactly why are you asking? Right? And then you have Joel's friends,

765
00:45:07,719 --> 00:45:10,960
so they're all friendly, but they're
all almost trying to use each other or

766
00:45:12,079 --> 00:45:14,679
sneak around and be like, oh
where are you going? Oh I'm just

767
00:45:14,719 --> 00:45:15,559
going to the front line. Oh
I'm going there too. Well, actually,

768
00:45:15,559 --> 00:45:19,880
we're reviewing the president, like there's
this mini competition. Now there's just

769
00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:22,920
that same way nowadays, but this
is to the m degree because it's like

770
00:45:22,199 --> 00:45:24,960
who you can get the best shot
of someone dying or blowing up? Because

771
00:45:25,039 --> 00:45:29,679
especially through some of those battle scenes, I think that first one when Jesse's

772
00:45:29,679 --> 00:45:31,199
there and it's that image of they
say it's like a good shot where the

773
00:45:31,199 --> 00:45:35,599
guy gets shot and they're tourniquetting him
and he's like holding up blood and stuff,

774
00:45:35,599 --> 00:45:37,159
and they say, oh, it's
a good photo. Good for like

775
00:45:37,159 --> 00:45:40,000
they completely ignore the ramifications of it. But you can see how shell shock

776
00:45:40,119 --> 00:45:44,280
she is in that moment, oppose
the end where she's just popping off with

777
00:45:44,360 --> 00:45:46,199
any photo of a dead guy,
blown up person. It's completely gone,

778
00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:52,119
even to the point where she photographs
the death of Lee and just takes it

779
00:45:52,159 --> 00:45:53,719
in for a moment. But this
gets up and doesn't even actually look at

780
00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:58,039
her once. When she gets up, I'm pretty sure she just walks up

781
00:45:58,079 --> 00:46:00,679
and goes on. And I knew
she Lee was gonna die because there's a

782
00:46:00,719 --> 00:46:05,280
moment where they got split up and
she takes a picture of Lee taking a

783
00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:07,039
picture, and that's where I went, oh, it's over for Kristin Dunce.

784
00:46:07,119 --> 00:46:08,719
That's the last photo of her.
I know, it's almost like a

785
00:46:08,719 --> 00:46:13,119
subplot, is like, yeah,
the movie ends in a way where you

786
00:46:13,119 --> 00:46:15,920
know, you're curious at what's gonna
happen next. But I picture for sure

787
00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:22,599
that Jesse made some sort of you
know story about Lee showing all these images

788
00:46:22,599 --> 00:46:25,840
that she had across from her,
like from these because yeah, once again

789
00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:29,599
she has that very first shot when
they're in that like war zone, that

790
00:46:29,599 --> 00:46:31,480
bomb goes off near that truck and
she takes a picture of her taking a

791
00:46:31,519 --> 00:46:36,880
picture. So I like that once
again there she's just kind of documenting her

792
00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:40,760
whole journey to her final resting place
in that sense. And they allude that

793
00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:45,320
she's one of the more like known
journalists South. Yeah, right, because

794
00:46:45,360 --> 00:46:46,760
like, oh, you're known from
this and this on the Wikipedia page,

795
00:46:46,800 --> 00:46:50,199
like they talk about that. Yeah, like Jesse says, you're on the

796
00:46:50,199 --> 00:46:53,119
inspirations of why I'm doing this,
which again that would never be me.

797
00:46:53,159 --> 00:46:55,480
I'd love to talk to journalists,
but I'm you and catch me out there

798
00:46:55,480 --> 00:47:00,960
on the front lines taking photo crazy. But again that's all we're talking about.

799
00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:05,599
The third act, That whole third
act that is like I said,

800
00:47:05,679 --> 00:47:08,239
I think the first act there's a
little slowness. I really enjoyed the second

801
00:47:08,239 --> 00:47:13,400
act from when we meet Plemmons and
on, the whole movie is almost to

802
00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:15,920
me out of ten. They take
that break at that military camp, but

803
00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:19,719
for the rest of it that the
movie is at a ten. When they

804
00:47:19,719 --> 00:47:22,760
got to go to Washington and they're
especially too again about journalists. They're like

805
00:47:22,760 --> 00:47:29,639
bringing about which landmarks they got on
camera destroyed. But that was not cool,

806
00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:34,239
but it was like it was it's
crazy. It's it's the better version

807
00:47:34,320 --> 00:47:36,440
of what I hate. And you
know, because I know tell you love

808
00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:38,880
these movies. But like when twenty
twelve and they'll show like these landmarks being

809
00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:42,519
taken down by a big storm or
something like that, that's all good and

810
00:47:42,599 --> 00:47:45,639
jests. But in this spectrum,
when you see like the Lincoln Memorial and

811
00:47:45,639 --> 00:47:49,639
you see if someone shooting an RPG
out of it, it's like it's not

812
00:47:49,679 --> 00:47:52,519
like all cool, awesome, it's
like a holy shit, like it's it's

813
00:47:52,559 --> 00:47:58,000
strange. It's very nine to eleven
is of like putting that symbolism with things

814
00:47:58,079 --> 00:48:00,559
that are landmarks today, you know, stuff that when we get movies is

815
00:48:00,599 --> 00:48:05,599
almost like talking about things in the
past. So between the getting there,

816
00:48:05,800 --> 00:48:08,559
the street riots, getting into the
actual White House on a repeat, to

817
00:48:08,559 --> 00:48:13,920
those like four secret Service guys who
had to stay with the president. There's

818
00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:16,760
another worst shot, but that was
intense. Every moment, every corner,

819
00:48:16,840 --> 00:48:22,760
every flare, throne, flashbang,
Like they did a fantastic job of just

820
00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:28,320
making you feel that it's not a
call do the Civil War action momenthere it's

821
00:48:28,320 --> 00:48:30,480
like, oh yeah, big gunfight. It's like, you don't like any

822
00:48:30,480 --> 00:48:32,079
of this's going on. You mentioned
the photo is dilne, like that's almost

823
00:48:32,079 --> 00:48:36,559
like a good pause, and then
you're right back into it and it's loud

824
00:48:36,599 --> 00:48:38,800
and it's screaming and it's bloody,
like it's this is a movie where I'll

825
00:48:38,840 --> 00:48:42,559
see they were never gonna do that, but it's something that like it has

826
00:48:42,639 --> 00:48:45,239
to be radar, that you have
to have all these things on the screen.

827
00:48:45,360 --> 00:48:49,039
So it's just well done. When
I feel like there's tons of war

828
00:48:49,079 --> 00:48:51,719
movies up there and tons of radar
movie, there's tons of violently look at

829
00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:53,480
John Wick. We see people get
shot all the time, but in this,

830
00:48:53,639 --> 00:48:58,119
like when these people get shot,
it's so visceral and just real it.

831
00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:02,760
The third act Dept he's gonna stick
with me for a while. Yeah.

832
00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:07,360
The fact too that there's just a
void of music, like, yeah,

833
00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:10,239
there's probably no score in this at
all that I think retrospectively. So

834
00:49:10,559 --> 00:49:15,639
in I think the movie, I
don't think there's any score at all.

835
00:49:15,679 --> 00:49:17,679
I think it's just periods of war. Yeah, there's some score. Yeah,

836
00:49:17,719 --> 00:49:21,679
Like I think even during the plumbing
scene, like when the car pulls

837
00:49:21,760 --> 00:49:23,639
up and stuff like that, there's
some stuff going on. But I don't

838
00:49:23,639 --> 00:49:29,039
think the third act there is.
I did feel like the soundtrack was more

839
00:49:29,119 --> 00:49:34,400
like purposeful and actually added more to
the movie generally speaking than the score in

840
00:49:34,440 --> 00:49:37,280
that sense, Like I don't think
the score is impactful, But anyway,

841
00:49:38,400 --> 00:49:43,360
I think the Yeah, Travis said, like the beginning, it definitely was

842
00:49:43,480 --> 00:49:46,000
a slow burn, is building up
to what it was trying to get to

843
00:49:46,039 --> 00:49:49,519
in that narrative, which I thought
was great. That whole third act was

844
00:49:49,599 --> 00:49:52,679
just yeah, it was heavy.
It was crazy, just how fast paced

845
00:49:52,719 --> 00:49:57,920
it was and just what the helicopter
descends into the streets and it's just firing

846
00:49:57,920 --> 00:50:01,599
into the parcade. It's just it's
it's pushing the troops forward and forward more

847
00:50:01,599 --> 00:50:05,360
and more, and they're just they're
going ahead, the reporters trying to capture

848
00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:08,519
everything. It was just so intense
and just absolutely crazy to see that.

849
00:50:08,719 --> 00:50:12,880
And yeah, it's you see,
as Travis mentioned, like the John Wick

850
00:50:12,880 --> 00:50:15,559
and all these other action movies,
but it's it just feels different the way

851
00:50:15,599 --> 00:50:20,039
that it was shot cinematically, being
so much closer and up front. Is

852
00:50:20,079 --> 00:50:22,920
the way the cameras following everyone.
It's almost like you're moving through the streets,

853
00:50:23,320 --> 00:50:27,039
not like I'm like duck and leaning
like dodge and bullets or anything,

854
00:50:27,039 --> 00:50:30,920
but it just you feel like you're
actually in this situation watching these things unfold,

855
00:50:30,360 --> 00:50:37,079
and you, yeah, just being
so close to what's going on,

856
00:50:37,239 --> 00:50:42,559
like and RPG fires and blows up
the one hum V and then all everyone's

857
00:50:42,559 --> 00:50:45,079
group behind the other hum V and
that humps backs up and they're all exposed,

858
00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:50,079
like all our characters are with the
second movie. So it's like,

859
00:50:50,119 --> 00:50:52,880
you just saw what happened in that
vehicle up ahead, And I think it's

860
00:50:52,920 --> 00:50:54,239
good for the stakes because it's like, oh, just like that, it's

861
00:50:54,239 --> 00:50:58,079
over, you know. Yeah,
It's just it's like when they get into

862
00:50:58,079 --> 00:51:01,239
the White House and you see,
like this is some politicians on the ground

863
00:51:01,239 --> 00:51:07,320
that obviously committed suicide out but before
that, like they load up some VIPs

864
00:51:07,400 --> 00:51:10,199
into the like the SUVs, and
there's just they're a getting like gutting it

865
00:51:10,199 --> 00:51:13,480
out there. It's like, man, there's tags all around, and these

866
00:51:13,480 --> 00:51:16,440
guys are gonna actually make like a
play for this is crazy. And you

867
00:51:16,639 --> 00:51:22,519
just see the anger that's surrounding these
this military that's getting closer and closer and

868
00:51:22,519 --> 00:51:28,519
closer. And I guess the military
here you're dealing with nineteen succeeded succeeded,

869
00:51:28,920 --> 00:51:34,679
not like succeeding, but succeeded states
from like the Americas. So you're dealing

870
00:51:34,719 --> 00:51:37,679
with nineteen of the states that have
just kind of like joined into the Western

871
00:51:37,880 --> 00:51:40,719
forces. So that's basically And when
you look at the map too, and

872
00:51:40,760 --> 00:51:45,400
you see how it's kind of like
like the top and then the bottom and

873
00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:51,840
it's just sandwiched. Basically, they're
kind of converging on on Washington, and

874
00:51:51,880 --> 00:51:53,280
so like, look trying to understand
a little bit more about that, and

875
00:51:53,320 --> 00:52:00,400
I feel like in retrospect they drop
subtle hints about why these states have kind

876
00:52:00,440 --> 00:52:02,079
of risen up and why they've gotten
kind of angry. And it can start

877
00:52:02,079 --> 00:52:07,159
off where you see them mentioned that
the president's on his third term. I

878
00:52:07,199 --> 00:52:09,800
feel like that's obviously something that might
be a little bit more of an in

879
00:52:09,840 --> 00:52:15,159
line of a dictatorship. The FBI
was disbanded for whatever reason, that's kind

880
00:52:15,159 --> 00:52:17,960
of maybe a little questionable too,
And that that's where I feel like when

881
00:52:17,960 --> 00:52:22,559
people are like, he doesn't pick
a side, you literally like, I'm

882
00:52:22,559 --> 00:52:24,159
not trying to be that guy,
but you literally have the last president be

883
00:52:24,199 --> 00:52:27,239
like, well, maybe we could
look into doing a third term. Like

884
00:52:27,679 --> 00:52:31,360
it's like, I think clearly he's
drawing Carling's drawing a line to like she's

885
00:52:31,400 --> 00:52:35,239
like, oh, the FBI is
looking into Trump. It's like, that's

886
00:52:35,239 --> 00:52:38,320
what I mean. Like, I
think that's why it Those are smart choices,

887
00:52:38,320 --> 00:52:42,360
because it is. I just feel
like if you read enough into hey,

888
00:52:42,400 --> 00:52:44,840
we're talking about the history podcast,
like the past couple of years,

889
00:52:45,039 --> 00:52:49,360
it's allegories to things that have been
said or spoken or rumored about. Right,

890
00:52:49,440 --> 00:52:51,639
So it's like the third term thing
that came up a couple of years

891
00:52:51,639 --> 00:52:53,159
ago and everyone was like, what
the fuck, dude, We've been doing

892
00:52:53,199 --> 00:52:58,039
set in two terms for like ever, so I missed the third term.

893
00:52:58,159 --> 00:53:00,400
I'm glad you brought that up.
I caught the FB, I think,

894
00:53:00,400 --> 00:53:02,119
but I missed that he was trying
to get a third term, which yeah,

895
00:53:02,159 --> 00:53:04,960
that could be. And that's why
I like too, we don't know

896
00:53:06,480 --> 00:53:09,840
exactly what the president. They never
post like they just showed him. I

897
00:53:09,840 --> 00:53:14,440
think. What I did like is
they show him doing that, like what

898
00:53:14,599 --> 00:53:16,559
is it, practicing the speech and
then the end we get shot, But

899
00:53:16,559 --> 00:53:20,440
there's not showing him like being a
piece of shit. They're not showing him

900
00:53:20,519 --> 00:53:23,239
like being super racist or doing all
these things. So it's still a thing

901
00:53:23,280 --> 00:53:25,679
of like, you don't know if
killing this guy is the right thing.

902
00:53:25,760 --> 00:53:29,519
Right, we see here these examples, but it's not like they made him

903
00:53:29,519 --> 00:53:32,840
like a mustache totally, like every
president practices their speech before they go on,

904
00:53:32,920 --> 00:53:36,360
you know, So it's just like
he's just a regular president. You

905
00:53:36,360 --> 00:53:37,920
don't really know. And even then
the stuff that you're talking about, like

906
00:53:37,960 --> 00:53:40,880
the FBI and the third term something
that could be true, But then how

907
00:53:40,960 --> 00:53:45,280
much is something that just like maybe
the press on one side putting that type

908
00:53:45,280 --> 00:53:49,440
of stuff out right, You just
don't know. So m hm oh,

909
00:53:49,480 --> 00:53:51,840
sorry, go ahead, Dylan,
h you go ahead. Well, they

910
00:53:52,159 --> 00:53:55,320
they had an interesting mention too with
with Antifa or Antifa, and I feel

911
00:53:55,360 --> 00:54:02,239
like that's such an interesting debacle between
left and right wingers in America these days,

912
00:54:04,119 --> 00:54:06,719
and that was interesting. They talked
about it in so past tense,

913
00:54:06,800 --> 00:54:10,440
like like almost a like decades ago
Antifa massacre, and it doesn't really add

914
00:54:10,440 --> 00:54:15,280
context. Is okay, is this
something like what type of massacred like that

915
00:54:15,360 --> 00:54:20,159
was day or was this group that
that did it? So the way I

916
00:54:20,199 --> 00:54:23,159
took it as okay, the Antifa
massacres, it sounds like it's something like

917
00:54:23,199 --> 00:54:27,679
a hand that was dealt to this
group, yeah, and their beliefs.

918
00:54:29,280 --> 00:54:31,599
That's how I interpreted that though,
I thought so yeah, and I just

919
00:54:31,639 --> 00:54:36,159
took it as they happened like many
years ago now, So that's why I

920
00:54:36,159 --> 00:54:37,639
said, like, yeah, the
problems that these people are going through are

921
00:54:37,639 --> 00:54:40,840
not the problems that are happening in
like twenty twenty. This is like two

922
00:54:40,880 --> 00:54:45,519
thousand and forty or something like that. I wonder though, because I mean

923
00:54:45,519 --> 00:54:51,119
that was seemingly I mean, I
guess so I'm just thinking about like how

924
00:54:51,239 --> 00:54:55,639
Jesse looks up to Lee as her
hero, and if that was the event

925
00:54:55,679 --> 00:55:00,000
that made Lee like this big figure
just based on on Jesse's age, like

926
00:55:00,039 --> 00:55:04,679
it was probably somewhat recent and when
she was like old enough for that to

927
00:55:04,719 --> 00:55:06,760
have meaning, you know, if
that makes sense. But it also could

928
00:55:06,800 --> 00:55:08,280
just be that she just went on
heard about her for some other reason,

929
00:55:08,360 --> 00:55:13,480
went hearn her Wikipedia and saw that
that was the thing that made her famous.

930
00:55:13,519 --> 00:55:15,559
But I don't know. I guess
I took it as more of a

931
00:55:15,599 --> 00:55:19,639
recent event, but who knows.
Let's say her second had break and we

932
00:55:19,639 --> 00:55:24,079
will keep the conversation going and we're
back and speaking of just because you brought

933
00:55:24,079 --> 00:55:27,480
her up, Yeah, big shout
out to Jesse, because I've only seen

934
00:55:27,480 --> 00:55:30,400
her in one thing. It was
last year His Priscilla was that movie about

935
00:55:30,440 --> 00:55:35,480
her, Priscilla and Elvis, where
Jacob Lordi played Elvis, and I liked

936
00:55:35,519 --> 00:55:37,159
the movie. I didn't like love
it. I know Clay, you know

937
00:55:37,239 --> 00:55:40,119
Patroon Clay, he's somebody that they
actually loves that movie. So there you

938
00:55:40,119 --> 00:55:43,400
go go. I think it's like
a four or five stars. That's rare

939
00:55:43,440 --> 00:55:46,920
for him days. Yeah. So
but she was really good in this,

940
00:55:47,039 --> 00:55:50,559
and tip if you liked her,
she's one of the leads in the Alien

941
00:55:50,559 --> 00:55:53,519
movie too coming up. So she's
having Yeah, she's having a really good

942
00:55:53,599 --> 00:55:58,239
time. And I thought she just
brought. She's somebody we're gonna be talking

943
00:55:58,239 --> 00:56:00,920
about many years. I think she
talked maybe even this year, who knows.

944
00:56:00,920 --> 00:56:02,519
But I just feel like with Golden
Gigs, with other things, like

945
00:56:02,519 --> 00:56:07,119
she's just getting started. She has
a very good agent, and I thought

946
00:56:07,159 --> 00:56:09,519
she was like perfectly cast. I'm
not saying there's nobody else in the world

947
00:56:09,519 --> 00:56:14,119
that could have done this role,
but again, most of these people,

948
00:56:14,199 --> 00:56:17,800
especially her and Dunce, I felt
like we're felt the most real people,

949
00:56:17,960 --> 00:56:22,119
not characters. I thought she did
a good job all around. So I

950
00:56:22,280 --> 00:56:24,519
just want to shut that out.
But yeah, yeah, absolutely. I

951
00:56:24,559 --> 00:56:28,719
don't know how much to i'd be
on what we've said, but I think

952
00:56:28,760 --> 00:56:31,960
she was. I think she was
great. Oh yeah. I think that

953
00:56:32,039 --> 00:56:37,920
the scenes starting off where we get
to see her just paralyzed and just totally

954
00:56:38,920 --> 00:56:43,320
like shook, like especially when she's
beating herself up, like I totally forgot

955
00:56:43,360 --> 00:56:45,760
I had a camera. I didn't
take a single photo, like I was

956
00:56:45,840 --> 00:56:50,519
just like I was just I was
frozen. And after that where she's puking

957
00:56:50,559 --> 00:56:52,880
in the car, everything that's just
going on, She's just portraying this this

958
00:56:53,559 --> 00:56:59,159
terrified intensity. Even when Jesse Plemons
is just like grilling her and it's just

959
00:56:59,320 --> 00:57:02,480
freaky, freaky, freaky stuff.
But she did absolutely incredibly well with all

960
00:57:02,519 --> 00:57:06,719
of those those shots. And I
think at the end when she's just displaying

961
00:57:06,760 --> 00:57:10,280
the confidence and she's just moving,
maneuvering and doing things. I got angry

962
00:57:10,280 --> 00:57:13,519
when she went right into the middle
of the hall. But I mean,

963
00:57:14,440 --> 00:57:16,800
damn good shot. I mean,
but terrifying, like the the guys in

964
00:57:16,880 --> 00:57:22,159
suits leaning out with their SMG's down
the hall. But yeah, just eerie

965
00:57:22,199 --> 00:57:25,199
too when she just took the photos
of Christen's character Lee there when she's just

966
00:57:25,239 --> 00:57:30,480
being shot, she got too confident, absolutely, Like I guess I get

967
00:57:30,519 --> 00:57:34,719
it too that it took me out
of it for a second. I guess

968
00:57:34,840 --> 00:57:36,559
I was like, what are you
even shooting in this moment? Like you

969
00:57:36,639 --> 00:57:39,440
fell down and if Dunce wasn't there, you were just like shooting the roof,

970
00:57:39,480 --> 00:57:42,920
you know. So that's one thing
I get that either doing it for

971
00:57:42,960 --> 00:57:45,000
the shot. I don't know if
they were just she was just trying to

972
00:57:45,039 --> 00:57:46,960
shoot her, but for just a
split second, took me out for a

973
00:57:47,000 --> 00:57:53,639
second. But it's okay, let's
see what else I I Another scene that

974
00:57:53,719 --> 00:57:58,679
I really enjoyed was when did they
go to that that just regular town.

975
00:57:58,719 --> 00:58:00,639
I forget if they had an aim
for that town or city where they went

976
00:58:00,679 --> 00:58:04,960
to when it just seemed normal.
They're going through the streets, there's kids

977
00:58:05,000 --> 00:58:07,199
walking, there's some old lady walk
and it's like, clearly they turn the

978
00:58:07,239 --> 00:58:12,440
saturation up. It's like a bit
sunnier, like grass is growing and there's

979
00:58:12,480 --> 00:58:15,719
a little car with like googly eyes
on it and everything. It's just very

980
00:58:15,920 --> 00:58:19,239
happy, chill place. They go
into a store, like a clothing store

981
00:58:19,280 --> 00:58:22,079
for the first time in a long
time, and you get some lighthearded moments

982
00:58:22,119 --> 00:58:25,760
there. But I love the ending
of that sequence too, when Lee goes

983
00:58:25,760 --> 00:58:29,719
back outside is talking to Sammy about
it, and yeah, like, even

984
00:58:29,760 --> 00:58:31,639
though this place seems like okay,
wow, there actually is somewhere, there's

985
00:58:31,639 --> 00:58:35,960
somewhere that's a safe haven. There's
some places that are still together and are

986
00:58:35,960 --> 00:58:38,800
functionally normally, but no, there's
still some fucking dudes up with snipers up

987
00:58:38,800 --> 00:58:43,760
on the roof that are making it
this way. Who knows what it is,

988
00:58:43,800 --> 00:58:46,559
but I think it's just like a
good, unsettling end to what is

989
00:58:46,639 --> 00:58:52,239
otherwise like a very wholesome scene.
Yeah, So I thought that that was

990
00:58:52,519 --> 00:58:55,400
a really nice sequence. Yeah,
that was a fun reveal there because it's

991
00:58:55,400 --> 00:58:58,239
like, who knows where they just
wanted to be nice, but it's like

992
00:58:58,239 --> 00:59:00,760
if anyone gets out of line over. But that whole place was good.

993
00:59:00,840 --> 00:59:04,719
I like shoal with the hat.
We already talked about the dress photo.

994
00:59:04,800 --> 00:59:07,880
That was good of don't miss the
perfect moment and you look the best in

995
00:59:07,920 --> 00:59:10,000
your smile. I don't smile.
She makes her smile. But you mentioned

996
00:59:10,079 --> 00:59:15,039
before where I feel like the middle
portion it's not exactly like this, but

997
00:59:15,079 --> 00:59:19,000
there's almost shades of like an anthology
movie. You get this little town,

998
00:59:19,159 --> 00:59:22,239
you get that second one that they
go to where it's the guys there on

999
00:59:22,320 --> 00:59:25,280
the balcony, then there's the guys
down below. There's like the Swallowking guys,

1000
00:59:25,280 --> 00:59:28,639
the military. Then them alow the
just in regular clothes and they have

1001
00:59:28,719 --> 00:59:31,079
like the spray painted walls and everything, and they find that, yeah,

1002
00:59:31,119 --> 00:59:35,079
that soldier up top when they shot. Also, they get to that like

1003
00:59:35,119 --> 00:59:37,599
sniper scene moment where they just come
across because I thought, oh, where's

1004
00:59:37,639 --> 00:59:40,960
the sniper gonna come? Their cars
getting shot up, and then they got

1005
00:59:40,960 --> 00:59:45,159
a pull aside and it's a standoff. It doesn't lead to anything. It's

1006
00:59:45,199 --> 00:59:46,800
just like a thing that's happening in
the world. So it felt like an

1007
00:59:46,840 --> 00:59:52,199
anthology or very much like in a
video game when you stumble upon a side

1008
00:59:52,239 --> 00:59:53,320
quest and you're just like, oh, I'm gonna do this for a while,

1009
00:59:53,360 --> 00:59:54,960
and it's like, oh, now
that's over. That was what you're

1010
00:59:54,960 --> 01:00:00,199
here. Here's surprize. So I
actually appreciated just kind of these slices of

1011
01:00:00,239 --> 01:00:04,840
life or what the world would be
like in this position. And because I

1012
01:00:04,840 --> 01:00:06,519
think it always hit me out with
my toes, I'm like, well,

1013
01:00:06,559 --> 01:00:08,400
is this gonna be, you know, main story mission or is this a

1014
01:00:08,400 --> 01:00:10,599
side quest mission? And for the
middle we took a lot of pass but

1015
01:00:10,679 --> 01:00:15,159
I thought they were all good for
what we needed. And that sniper scene

1016
01:00:15,320 --> 01:00:19,599
very well done. I like the
cinatography, a lot of the plants when

1017
01:00:19,599 --> 01:00:22,800
they're laying down, and the house
and the Christmas aesthetics, so there's a

1018
01:00:22,800 --> 01:00:25,440
lot of good stuff there. Yeah. I really like that sequence one.

1019
01:00:25,519 --> 01:00:30,199
It was just it was almost like
a good, like unsettling horror sort of

1020
01:00:30,199 --> 01:00:31,920
sequence where you know, and they
look out there and they're like, there's

1021
01:00:31,960 --> 01:00:35,519
that. I think it's like a
snowman or something on the side and just

1022
01:00:35,519 --> 01:00:38,639
like there a guy behind that.
I didn't know it had its good,

1023
01:00:38,639 --> 01:00:42,039
but I was also one of those
things it's like, okay, so it

1024
01:00:42,079 --> 01:00:45,639
seems like all this shit started like
maybe in the winter when it was like

1025
01:00:45,480 --> 01:00:49,239
time and stuff's never got put away, which is kind of just a fun

1026
01:00:49,280 --> 01:00:52,159
little detail. And then also I
just I love the dialogue from those two

1027
01:00:52,280 --> 01:00:55,400
sniper dudes when they're talking to them. They're trying to ask like who is

1028
01:00:55,440 --> 01:00:59,039
the guy in the house and who
are you guys with, and like they

1029
01:00:59,039 --> 01:01:01,280
don't know who the guy in the
house. They're not even therefore they don't

1030
01:01:01,320 --> 01:01:06,360
give a fuck. This is not
even about the Western Forces versus the President

1031
01:01:06,400 --> 01:01:09,320
whatever anymore. It's just these people
are just killing for fun at this point

1032
01:01:09,440 --> 01:01:15,639
or who knows what. So I
thought that Jesus really really poignant scene,

1033
01:01:15,639 --> 01:01:19,719
and when it is also kind of
funny too. I just I don't know,

1034
01:01:19,920 --> 01:01:22,199
those guys were kind of goofy.
The whole sequences had something a bit

1035
01:01:22,280 --> 01:01:25,159
silly about it too. I had
to look it up because I thought it

1036
01:01:25,239 --> 01:01:28,320
was the kid from Spy Kids,
but I was wrong. It's not the

1037
01:01:28,360 --> 01:01:30,639
kid from Spike Kids. That would
have been crazy. Yeah, he looked

1038
01:01:30,639 --> 01:01:32,760
like him a little bit. I
think again that scene goes hand in hand

1039
01:01:32,840 --> 01:01:42,239
with the the the not of the
oblivionousness, but just the Jesse's parents and

1040
01:01:42,320 --> 01:01:45,039
Lee's parents that are just turning a
blind eye to to what's going on and

1041
01:01:45,079 --> 01:01:49,000
these people like they're turning a blind
eye doesn't matter about science. And I

1042
01:01:49,039 --> 01:01:51,960
love that bit of dialogue. It's
like, Okay, this guy in there

1043
01:01:52,000 --> 01:01:54,280
trying to kill us or trying to
kill them, and he says he says

1044
01:01:54,280 --> 01:01:58,719
it like it's black and white,
and that's that's a great way to put

1045
01:01:58,719 --> 01:02:00,440
it, and it's it is black
and and I think it's just also a

1046
01:02:01,920 --> 01:02:09,159
human achilles heel. Just I think
that so many problems could be solved if

1047
01:02:09,320 --> 01:02:12,960
you know, they used to to
talk it out, but that's not the

1048
01:02:12,960 --> 01:02:15,159
case here. You're just dealing with, Yeah, they're trying to kill us,

1049
01:02:15,159 --> 01:02:17,360
and we're gonna kill them first.
They don't give a shit about anything

1050
01:02:17,360 --> 01:02:22,159
else. That's just what it is. And I think that just speaks volumes

1051
01:02:22,199 --> 01:02:24,519
to like we don't give a shit
about about them or anything like that.

1052
01:02:24,599 --> 01:02:28,119
And that's the same thing with people
living out in the farm out in Missouri

1053
01:02:28,199 --> 01:02:30,480
or Colorado. Like I don't give
a shit about what's going out there.

1054
01:02:30,519 --> 01:02:32,400
I'm just know that I just need
to be here and just be out of

1055
01:02:32,400 --> 01:02:37,760
that and just survive whatever. So
I think that there's there's different tones and

1056
01:02:37,840 --> 01:02:42,639
different different ways that they've kind of
displayed and tell it, tell these different

1057
01:02:42,639 --> 01:02:45,840
little segments of the story, but
it seems to be just a reoccurring theme

1058
01:02:46,079 --> 01:02:50,199
of again I don't know if oblivious
and this is the right way to put

1059
01:02:50,239 --> 01:02:54,519
it, but just you you mentioned
you guys mentioned it earlier on in this

1060
01:02:54,559 --> 01:03:00,159
review. But people just kind of
staying out of this kind of stuff and

1061
01:03:00,199 --> 01:03:01,679
not wanted to be involved. And
that's why again you have the media and

1062
01:03:01,760 --> 01:03:06,159
and everything like that, and people
just wanting to keep out of this this

1063
01:03:06,320 --> 01:03:12,400
mess. M h. Yeah,
we'll put a good sequence. Should we

1064
01:03:12,440 --> 01:03:15,920
talk about Owen? I was just
gonna mention, like with with Plemmon's character

1065
01:03:16,280 --> 01:03:20,800
actor great actors. Yeah, I
honestly don't know if I have much to

1066
01:03:20,840 --> 01:03:22,960
add because I feel like the trailer, like, I feel like I've seen

1067
01:03:22,960 --> 01:03:27,239
this scene a lot and there's not
much more to it. There's a little

1068
01:03:27,239 --> 01:03:30,280
bit more, but I thought he
was just so good in that kind of

1069
01:03:30,320 --> 01:03:35,000
smaller role that he was in,
and yeah, that sequence definitely had an

1070
01:03:35,039 --> 01:03:37,599
intensity to it because I didn't know. I figured someone's dying in the scene.

1071
01:03:37,599 --> 01:03:39,519
I don't know what was and I
you know, ultimately it was like

1072
01:03:40,280 --> 01:03:44,400
the two lower Stakes characters that died
and then I guess, I guess also

1073
01:03:44,480 --> 01:03:46,840
Sammy did take the bullet from that
sequence and that's what led to his death

1074
01:03:46,880 --> 01:03:52,880
overall. But yeah, I mean
even just like Jesse getting smacked into that

1075
01:03:52,679 --> 01:03:58,000
fucking hole full of bodies, Oh
so gross. See that's the stuff where

1076
01:03:58,079 --> 01:04:00,159
to me, the trailer was like
a little taste and then getting the full

1077
01:04:01,639 --> 01:04:04,840
I don't know. It's almost like
if you try a strong meal or a

1078
01:04:04,880 --> 01:04:09,039
strong soup and you're like, oh, like yeah, there's a flavor to

1079
01:04:09,079 --> 01:04:11,320
it. I don't know, and
then you hit the whole bowl and then

1080
01:04:11,360 --> 01:04:13,840
once you're five things and you're like, oh, I don't like this,

1081
01:04:14,000 --> 01:04:16,159
like in a good way though,
where it's like this is really fucked up,

1082
01:04:16,159 --> 01:04:19,119
because like I agree with you where
it plays. I don't know if

1083
01:04:19,119 --> 01:04:24,760
the soup analogy made. It's a
bad soup, but it's made well,

1084
01:04:24,880 --> 01:04:26,880
you know, or I don't know, if I've had a super I like

1085
01:04:26,920 --> 01:04:30,760
the first bite five bites. I
was loving. It was like, something's

1086
01:04:30,800 --> 01:04:35,239
weird with this soup roll tape.
I did not say you liked the first

1087
01:04:35,239 --> 01:04:38,480
bite. You're like, oh,
like okay, like it was strong,

1088
01:04:38,480 --> 01:04:42,239
but you thought maybe you could get
acquired to it. But I don't know

1089
01:04:42,639 --> 01:04:46,039
eventually though. That's where I agree
that it does play like the teaser trap

1090
01:04:46,039 --> 01:04:50,280
of scenes. But to me,
it's like it's like times ten the bodies

1091
01:04:50,320 --> 01:04:54,000
in there, because when they show
the truck and they're loading some bodies,

1092
01:04:54,039 --> 01:04:56,360
you can see some other bodies in
there, but you just might think it's

1093
01:04:56,360 --> 01:04:59,960
a couple. When she falls in
there, there's piles and dozens and dozen

1094
01:05:00,239 --> 01:05:02,000
and bodies and just that one.
Of course she is like the with the

1095
01:05:02,039 --> 01:05:05,320
girl's vomit after, which just gets
me all the time. But I go

1096
01:05:05,440 --> 01:05:09,079
out the window. You know,
what do you do around your seat there?

1097
01:05:09,159 --> 01:05:12,960
Poor Sammy has to sit there worse
backs he'd ever vomit blood. Just

1098
01:05:13,000 --> 01:05:17,880
like that's like I saw trap going
on. But when you have him,

1099
01:05:17,880 --> 01:05:21,239
just shoot that one guy right away, like really unprompted, like, oh,

1100
01:05:21,360 --> 01:05:25,800
who's this guy? He's my friend? Boom. That's what got me

1101
01:05:25,840 --> 01:05:28,480
off edge where I was like,
I don't know for sure because I had

1102
01:05:28,519 --> 01:05:31,360
not remember the trail and I thought, okay, I imagine Dunce and jest,

1103
01:05:31,440 --> 01:05:34,280
you're safe. But I didn't know
about Joel and I didn't know about

1104
01:05:34,280 --> 01:05:36,880
Sammy because I was like, well, I don't remember things good enough,

1105
01:05:36,880 --> 01:05:40,480
and these two are the main ones. So when he shot that friend right

1106
01:05:40,519 --> 01:05:42,679
away, and then of course he
shoots the other guy because he's from Hong

1107
01:05:42,760 --> 01:05:45,960
Kong, it's And I also did
not think sam who's just gonna realm with

1108
01:05:46,760 --> 01:05:49,519
the car? I didn't know how
they were getting out of that. Yeah,

1109
01:05:49,599 --> 01:05:51,599
And that's what I appreciate where I
was thinking of like, kay,

1110
01:05:51,719 --> 01:05:55,800
how is this gonna go? I
feel like this guy, no matter what

1111
01:05:55,840 --> 01:05:59,719
they say, is not gonna let
them go because they've said their journalists,

1112
01:05:59,760 --> 01:06:02,800
which I guess that was That's what
and that's what I think was interesting what

1113
01:06:02,880 --> 01:06:06,079
we talked about right where usually it'd
say, oh, why would you say

1114
01:06:06,079 --> 01:06:09,639
your journalists when there's a bunch of
dead bodies around you. Of course you're

1115
01:06:09,639 --> 01:06:11,920
dead, they're gonna worry, You're
gonna tell everybody. But in this world

1116
01:06:11,920 --> 01:06:15,119
that they've set up, if you
say you're a journalist, no one touches

1117
01:06:15,159 --> 01:06:16,400
you. So I get why they
would lead with, hey, we're press.

1118
01:06:16,800 --> 01:06:19,639
We're just here to do our job. We're interviewing somebody about a school

1119
01:06:19,679 --> 01:06:24,159
yet da But uh yeah, that's
I don't know where we will be at

1120
01:06:24,199 --> 01:06:26,079
the end of the year. But
I definitely got that in a best scene

1121
01:06:26,079 --> 01:06:29,840
for me Golden Geeks. That was
just intensity. Plemings is so good.

1122
01:06:30,199 --> 01:06:33,360
Everybody's so good in that scene to
build up, especially when we just pull

1123
01:06:33,480 --> 01:06:38,440
up and the car doors are empty
or open and the thing's empty. I

1124
01:06:38,480 --> 01:06:40,440
was like, oh, man,
I thought it could be that scene as

1125
01:06:40,480 --> 01:06:42,199
like, oh, this is gonna
be think where they turned the corner and

1126
01:06:42,239 --> 01:06:45,199
they're fine, they're taking some pictures
of deer. But no, it just

1127
01:06:45,239 --> 01:06:46,760
gets bad. And I actually like
that Sammy died, not because I want

1128
01:06:46,800 --> 01:06:50,960
him to die, but it did
give steaks to Okay, you hit them

1129
01:06:50,960 --> 01:06:53,920
with the car and you ran away. This guy again shot. It's like

1130
01:06:53,920 --> 01:06:56,760
we seen the movie so many times
where they get away unscathed, and I

1131
01:06:56,840 --> 01:07:00,519
like that they didn't get unscathed,
and obviously Sammy and all so just in

1132
01:07:00,559 --> 01:07:03,519
general they just were messed up from
it, you know. So it was

1133
01:07:04,360 --> 01:07:08,960
yeah, very very great. It
delivered. It delivered what I thought from

1134
01:07:09,000 --> 01:07:14,519
the trailer, so and I thought
the suspense worked too prior to that scene

1135
01:07:14,559 --> 01:07:18,400
when when Jesse switches cars, which
is such a dumb move, but she

1136
01:07:18,480 --> 01:07:23,639
was in the heat of the moment
and that guy drives off, he leaves,

1137
01:07:23,639 --> 01:07:26,920
they can't find her, So I
like, I think that worked well

1138
01:07:26,960 --> 01:07:29,840
too, of like what did he
do to her? And obviously, you

1139
01:07:29,880 --> 01:07:31,280
know, I should not have called
that guy out because he was he was

1140
01:07:31,320 --> 01:07:34,719
an innocent guy all along, but
it was suspicious though. He drew so

1141
01:07:35,000 --> 01:07:41,719
far ahead, come on now,
you know. So, yeah, that

1142
01:07:41,719 --> 01:07:45,199
that whole scene was just like you
guys have said it was. It was

1143
01:07:45,199 --> 01:07:48,519
in the trailer, but adding so
much more to it, and and Plemons

1144
01:07:48,599 --> 01:07:53,480
was just, yeah, he just
delivered. He did not disappoint. I

1145
01:07:54,719 --> 01:07:58,159
was really taken aback when you just
see the pit with all the bodies being

1146
01:07:58,199 --> 01:08:03,039
poured in there and there's just so
casual and you're just the dialogue just it's

1147
01:08:03,119 --> 01:08:06,159
intense. It really really is intense. You don't know what side these guys

1148
01:08:06,159 --> 01:08:10,280
are really fighting for, and they're
just assuming. Oh they're wearing uniforms,

1149
01:08:10,320 --> 01:08:13,280
so we know that they're probably like
Western forces or whatnot. But yeah,

1150
01:08:13,280 --> 01:08:15,920
Sammy's just telling it, like pleading
with them, like don't go Like my

1151
01:08:15,039 --> 01:08:17,520
gut's telling me, like they're gonna
they don't want to be seen doing what

1152
01:08:17,520 --> 01:08:19,760
they're doing. They're gonna kill you. But like, what are you gonna

1153
01:08:19,760 --> 01:08:25,239
do? Jesse is there and your
other reporter guys there too. You got

1154
01:08:25,239 --> 01:08:28,920
to do something. And I guess
you feel like your press, you feel

1155
01:08:28,920 --> 01:08:30,159
like you're invincible. As we already
talked about, they felt like they were

1156
01:08:30,159 --> 01:08:34,600
pretty much like a high ranked officials
in this in this world of chaos and

1157
01:08:34,600 --> 01:08:40,520
civil war, but their power being
stripped away at this point. And I

1158
01:08:41,159 --> 01:08:45,880
like how Joel is. He's he
is so charismatic and he's you just see

1159
01:08:45,920 --> 01:08:49,640
him throughout this whole film so far. He's great at talking up with people

1160
01:08:49,720 --> 01:08:54,359
and building that connection, that relationship, and this is the one thing he

1161
01:08:54,359 --> 01:08:57,840
couldn't talk his way out of,
and so it I think that's maybe another

1162
01:08:57,880 --> 01:09:01,520
thing that really shakes him up because
he is always can control of these situations,

1163
01:09:01,560 --> 01:09:04,079
and this is the one time and
the only time in the movie where

1164
01:09:04,119 --> 01:09:08,960
we don't see him take and keep
that control that he always exhibits and tries

1165
01:09:09,239 --> 01:09:13,680
to take. But uh yeah,
just the dialogue and just a moment that

1166
01:09:14,199 --> 01:09:17,520
like he was quivering, and the
moment he said Hong Kong, Oh yeah,

1167
01:09:17,600 --> 01:09:23,800
you're just lie, just lie.
This says something else. But they're

1168
01:09:23,840 --> 01:09:26,880
all dead though it doesn't matter.
Like even those three they wouldn't have made

1169
01:09:26,920 --> 01:09:29,760
it out. I think in the
long term he's still like, oh,

1170
01:09:29,800 --> 01:09:31,960
yeah, America, that's where America
is supposed to be it. But I

1171
01:09:31,960 --> 01:09:35,119
think all three of them, everybody
that was dead in that facidic because like

1172
01:09:35,399 --> 01:09:39,720
what we talked about before, I
don't think they're affiliate with anybody. They're

1173
01:09:39,760 --> 01:09:43,159
like the fucking Purge people where they're
just taking advantage of this and they're just

1174
01:09:43,640 --> 01:09:45,880
they're just killing people that they deem
our. Oh not American enough, and

1175
01:09:45,880 --> 01:09:48,880
then if you come across this,
we also got to kill you too.

1176
01:09:49,000 --> 01:09:53,359
So I think no matter what they
said they were, they were goners.

1177
01:09:53,680 --> 01:09:57,079
It was it was a no win
situation there. I feel like the girls

1178
01:09:57,119 --> 01:10:00,600
may have been safe because they were
from Missouri and colle Dorado. I really

1179
01:10:00,680 --> 01:10:06,239
do think it was that black and
white for for actor. For actor,

1180
01:10:08,119 --> 01:10:12,760
maybe he's just I wouldn't trust him. I couldn't trust it. Why didn't

1181
01:10:12,800 --> 01:10:15,520
he instantly kill Joel. Do you
think when he found out where Joel's from,

1182
01:10:16,000 --> 01:10:19,479
because he was still a talker,
right, But I thought Joel was

1183
01:10:19,479 --> 01:10:23,600
still on the side that he was
on like the country lineup. I thought

1184
01:10:23,680 --> 01:10:27,840
Joel's still from that spot, from
Florida, from the Central Forces. But

1185
01:10:28,079 --> 01:10:30,199
like, and yeah, I think
I think that you're right, he probably

1186
01:10:30,239 --> 01:10:33,920
is on that side because he expressed
I took it that he wasn't. So

1187
01:10:34,079 --> 01:10:38,319
again, maybe I just misread that, but again Joel implied like, oh,

1188
01:10:38,399 --> 01:10:41,479
he's in uniform, so he's Western
Forces and that's where Florida is a

1189
01:10:41,520 --> 01:10:45,079
part of. Florida is a part
of that one of the succeeded states,

1190
01:10:45,119 --> 01:10:48,960
the Western Alliance. But I just
personally took him more so that Plemons was

1191
01:10:49,000 --> 01:10:54,640
just kind of interested in this situation, and he was like, it seemed

1192
01:10:54,640 --> 01:10:58,039
like Joel was kind of acting as
like the leader of this group in the

1193
01:10:58,079 --> 01:11:00,920
situation. He was doing most of
the talking, and I think everything that

1194
01:11:00,960 --> 01:11:03,399
he was saying was engaging Plemmons's character, and I took it as Plumbins was

1195
01:11:03,439 --> 01:11:06,880
just interested and just like, you
know, keeping it kind of going a

1196
01:11:06,920 --> 01:11:12,479
little bit playing off of Joel because
I just feel like it's a statistic thing

1197
01:11:12,479 --> 01:11:14,880
to do where he probably thought,
Okay, I'm gonna kill this guy,

1198
01:11:14,920 --> 01:11:16,760
but I'm just gonna play this out
for my own entertainment. And again you

1199
01:11:16,800 --> 01:11:20,119
see it where the way you swinging
the gun around to every time he moves

1200
01:11:20,159 --> 01:11:24,520
the gun just in my seat because
it's like where's he pointing? Like he's

1201
01:11:24,560 --> 01:11:27,840
just moving and pointing it. It
was just brutal. One time he pointed

1202
01:11:27,840 --> 01:11:30,720
it right at Joel, you know, and then I was all, it's

1203
01:11:30,760 --> 01:11:31,720
over. And then he did that
and they pulled it up and stuff,

1204
01:11:31,760 --> 01:11:35,800
which was funny. Him and Dunston
actually interact watching that scene. They like

1205
01:11:35,880 --> 01:11:41,520
said one or two things at Colorado, but yeah, colds just I know

1206
01:11:41,520 --> 01:11:44,239
where you make movies. But just
supposed to be a funny situation where you're

1207
01:11:44,279 --> 01:11:47,359
playing this role and your husband is
standing there and just you know, looking

1208
01:11:47,439 --> 01:11:54,880
like that. But your husband in
real life they're married. Who Plemmings and

1209
01:11:54,960 --> 01:11:57,840
Dunst Oh cool, Yeah, they're
marrying, got like two kids together and

1210
01:11:57,840 --> 01:12:00,359
stuff. So yeah, no,
so it's kind of fun. Need to

1211
01:12:00,520 --> 01:12:03,439
like this is the role your husband's
doing, is like this race is viled

1212
01:12:03,560 --> 01:12:08,560
other shit, and like that's you
like and of course a lot of it,

1213
01:12:08,680 --> 01:12:12,239
just like this is to the degree
and it's definitely like breaking bad Replemens.

1214
01:12:12,239 --> 01:12:15,800
He's he's just eerily good and that's
what he's saying. He's like that

1215
01:12:15,840 --> 01:12:18,199
in real life. It seems like
in real life he's like a super nice

1216
01:12:18,279 --> 01:12:20,840
dude. It's just like, man, he's just like when you want him

1217
01:12:20,880 --> 01:12:25,840
to play that cold, calculated,
just scary in the visual, he just

1218
01:12:25,880 --> 01:12:31,960
turns that on. So uh yeah, one this is a random point.

1219
01:12:32,000 --> 01:12:36,640
But one shot I really enjoyed in
the movie was it there's no characters in

1220
01:12:36,680 --> 01:12:40,279
this shop, but it was just
a shot of like an overpass essentially,

1221
01:12:40,760 --> 01:12:43,720
and you know it's on this shop
for like maybe five seconds, six or

1222
01:12:43,760 --> 01:12:46,119
seven seconds, I don't know,
and then there's like a spray paint of

1223
01:12:46,199 --> 01:12:50,199
just like go Warriors or some sports
team or Steelers, yeah, you know,

1224
01:12:50,279 --> 01:12:54,960
go Steelers. And that was like
what immediately drew my eye and I

1225
01:12:54,960 --> 01:12:56,800
was like, oh, this is
kind of a mundane shot, kind of

1226
01:12:56,880 --> 01:13:00,880
like just fun post apocalypse of just
open thing. Then you realize like right

1227
01:13:00,960 --> 01:13:03,079
by that there's just like two bodies
hanging, and I love. I just

1228
01:13:03,079 --> 01:13:08,000
thought that was like so scientifically shot
of like my eyes went to the ghost

1229
01:13:08,000 --> 01:13:11,479
Steelers and then you know, since
the shots there long enough, I my

1230
01:13:11,560 --> 01:13:14,199
I eventually drifts and I see these
bodies. I just thought it was like

1231
01:13:14,840 --> 01:13:17,640
crazy, how effective that that was? What a bizarre man do? Again

1232
01:13:17,720 --> 01:13:26,760
Travis Steelers and he I don't think
this type of viewers don't never notice those

1233
01:13:26,840 --> 01:13:30,800
bodies, never at all Steelers he
points his wife Steelers. Yeah, he's

1234
01:13:30,840 --> 01:13:34,119
just that he did. No,
he didn't, oh Steelers, Steelers,

1235
01:13:34,119 --> 01:13:38,520
like multiple times he did laugh points
like no, this is not the this

1236
01:13:38,640 --> 01:13:41,720
is not the area to laugh at, sir. But yeah, really good,

1237
01:13:41,760 --> 01:13:45,680
I apologize that. Yeah, no, really good moment of Again,

1238
01:13:45,720 --> 01:13:49,680
it's just like it's a great kind
of dichotomy of the left or right to

1239
01:13:50,000 --> 01:13:53,960
where the world was and then just
a few inches where the world is now.

1240
01:13:54,079 --> 01:13:58,880
Right like where because I doubt the
Steelers were playing during the Civil War.

1241
01:13:59,199 --> 01:14:00,960
So it's just like whenever this was
going on, there was a future

1242
01:14:00,960 --> 01:14:04,159
where the biggest worry in this town
was, oh, hey, we're gonna

1243
01:14:04,520 --> 01:14:08,439
we want our sports team to win. Where now it's like you see those

1244
01:14:08,479 --> 01:14:11,800
sports field being used in like for
people to live in intents like that's where

1245
01:14:11,800 --> 01:14:14,039
they live too, Like we didn't
even talk about that. But when they

1246
01:14:14,079 --> 01:14:15,399
go to stay over at a place
and say, oh, like you got

1247
01:14:15,399 --> 01:14:18,039
your passes, yeah, like no
tense, so you can stay here,

1248
01:14:18,319 --> 01:14:21,680
And it just looks like that's what
people are like many people are doing now.

1249
01:14:21,720 --> 01:14:26,199
They have no homes, so nothing, they're just staying in camped areas

1250
01:14:26,239 --> 01:14:29,199
and stadiums, and we see lots
of them on the roads. Like it's

1251
01:14:29,239 --> 01:14:30,920
almost like, I don't know,
that's what Again, it's not that it's

1252
01:14:30,920 --> 01:14:35,159
a negative because it leaves conversation,
but that's the intrigue of obviously even in

1253
01:14:35,199 --> 01:14:39,039
our world right now, there's like
a like a homeless crisis, but this

1254
01:14:39,079 --> 01:14:44,239
looks like this is to the like
the massive degree where there's millions upon millions

1255
01:14:44,279 --> 01:14:45,960
more that are homeless now right And
it's like, so what happened now,

1256
01:14:45,960 --> 01:14:49,439
I guess is just certain countries you
couldn't live there, so you lose everything.

1257
01:14:49,520 --> 01:14:53,520
Like I don't know, but there
was a lot of people living on

1258
01:14:53,600 --> 01:14:57,119
streets or on roads, and I
was fascinated by that, but we didn't

1259
01:14:57,119 --> 01:14:58,840
get an answer. And again,
I don't think it's a bad thing.

1260
01:14:58,880 --> 01:15:00,840
It's just that's something of like I
think about now with this movie Okay,

1261
01:15:00,880 --> 01:15:05,800
what was what is the just even
economy situation? What's this we talked about

1262
01:15:05,800 --> 01:15:09,680
money? What situation with banks?
Do banks work? Do you like a

1263
01:15:09,680 --> 01:15:13,319
credit card as usual work? Do
you have like is it like follower using

1264
01:15:13,319 --> 01:15:15,079
bottle caps? Like there's lots of
stuff like what would happen would your current

1265
01:15:15,119 --> 01:15:18,960
if there was a self and Central
America? Would you have different money maybe

1266
01:15:18,960 --> 01:15:21,760
and your money wouldn't work there?
You know, like it's well, US

1267
01:15:21,800 --> 01:15:27,399
dollars, I mean even the US
currency works in other countries across across the

1268
01:15:27,399 --> 01:15:30,840
planet. But actually, I mean
like in this world, in this world,

1269
01:15:30,439 --> 01:15:35,520
did I feel like US dollars still
apply? But I think depending on

1270
01:15:35,800 --> 01:15:42,920
which which states you're in, it
would have different val So basically like a

1271
01:15:42,960 --> 01:15:46,720
one American dollar could literally be like
one American dollar gets to that in the

1272
01:15:46,720 --> 01:15:50,000
Western Alliance Forces whatever. But if
you're going to these other states, like

1273
01:15:50,079 --> 01:15:55,920
where they were at the beginning here
where they're first descending into heading towards was

1274
01:15:55,920 --> 01:15:59,359
it Charlottesville, Charlotte's Town? I
can't remember something, Charlottesville. Yeah,

1275
01:15:59,399 --> 01:16:01,800
So I think it's interesting because oh, we got three hundred dollars, so

1276
01:16:01,840 --> 01:16:04,279
that'll get you a couple of sandwiches, so you can see the value of

1277
01:16:04,319 --> 01:16:11,800
the US currency kind of being deflated
down to that that unfortunate amount that's pennies

1278
01:16:11,920 --> 01:16:14,840
really, So yeah, I feel
like there's also a lot less of a,

1279
01:16:14,960 --> 01:16:18,279
uh, I don't know, a
centralized value to certain things too,

1280
01:16:18,399 --> 01:16:23,119
Like those guys are obviously gonna overcharge
someone for a sandwich, but absolutely like

1281
01:16:23,199 --> 01:16:26,800
whatever they had to pay at that
stadium was probably a lot more reasonable.

1282
01:16:26,840 --> 01:16:29,720
But yeah, it is weird because
yeah, you have like that one random

1283
01:16:29,720 --> 01:16:32,119
town that we went to of course
that as we mentioned, was like seemingly

1284
01:16:32,159 --> 01:16:36,560
unaffected. I'm sure prices there were
like the same things were probably unchanged for

1285
01:16:36,600 --> 01:16:40,680
the most part. But even then, like when they go to that stadium

1286
01:16:40,720 --> 01:16:45,000
place, like the two girls there
that are like waving them in, like

1287
01:16:45,039 --> 01:16:47,159
they have like an official T shirt
and everything. It's not like, I

1288
01:16:47,199 --> 01:16:49,399
don't know, they spray painted something
on there, like that was like a

1289
01:16:49,399 --> 01:16:53,880
printed shirt of like this new organization
to seem that propped up during it.

1290
01:16:53,960 --> 01:16:57,960
So the way I see it is
like there are still many places where things

1291
01:16:58,039 --> 01:17:01,439
are going on as per usually given
even this hotel that they're staying at,

1292
01:17:01,439 --> 01:17:04,000
but for the most part, just
a lot of people maybe their house just

1293
01:17:04,000 --> 01:17:09,239
got blown up, or or their
their next door neighbor's house got blown up,

1294
01:17:09,279 --> 01:17:11,680
and so they just wanted to get
the hell out of there, trying

1295
01:17:11,680 --> 01:17:15,119
to find somewhere safer, that kind
of thing. But it's interesting to think

1296
01:17:15,119 --> 01:17:19,000
about. I guess the hotel too, Like I was trying to kind of

1297
01:17:19,000 --> 01:17:25,399
get a gauge for what the like
the start of the film, it doesn't

1298
01:17:25,600 --> 01:17:29,800
really establish much. I guess just
the world isn't chaos because she's in her

1299
01:17:29,840 --> 01:17:31,680
hotel room, and I think that
in retrospect, this is where she decides,

1300
01:17:31,720 --> 01:17:34,239
like, Okay, I'm gonna I'm
gonna picture photograph the president because she

1301
01:17:34,319 --> 01:17:38,279
photographs the president on the TV,
and then she looks out the window and

1302
01:17:38,279 --> 01:17:41,239
there's explosion out in the distance,
and so that's okay, she's going out

1303
01:17:41,239 --> 01:17:43,760
there. I totally forgot about her
photograph and the TV. That's a great

1304
01:17:43,840 --> 01:17:46,159
Yeah, there's a lot of like
things at the end of the movie happening

1305
01:17:46,199 --> 01:17:53,039
at the start of the movie.
That's good. Notice. Yeah, only

1306
01:17:53,079 --> 01:17:55,119
a couple other things. I mean
one already mentioned this, but I just

1307
01:17:55,119 --> 01:17:59,279
wanted to highlight it again. I
just love the cinematography, the choice to

1308
01:17:59,399 --> 01:18:03,239
include like they're the two girls and
their shots in that editing of certain sequences,

1309
01:18:03,279 --> 01:18:05,920
and Taylor, you mentioned this how
there was like a lot of silence

1310
01:18:06,000 --> 01:18:08,920
or like no score at certain moments. I think that was always great.

1311
01:18:08,920 --> 01:18:12,399
Whenever there'd be a huge warzone thing
going on, whenever they'd cut to one

1312
01:18:12,439 --> 01:18:15,720
of those photographs, there would just
be silence, right and just kind of

1313
01:18:15,920 --> 01:18:19,399
establishing like, yeah, when people
are seeing this photograph, they're really they're

1314
01:18:19,439 --> 01:18:23,119
not in that moment. They're just
getting like a little snippet of it,

1315
01:18:23,159 --> 01:18:27,039
but they're not getting that sound,
which is such a crucial part of feeling

1316
01:18:27,039 --> 01:18:29,560
what it being like. I don't
know, I guess being immersed in what

1317
01:18:29,560 --> 01:18:31,199
it would be like to be in
one of those situations. So I thought

1318
01:18:31,239 --> 01:18:34,279
it was such a great choice made
for the really great moments. And then

1319
01:18:34,279 --> 01:18:38,359
as well, like we talked about
this, but I think it's it's really

1320
01:18:38,399 --> 01:18:43,960
fitting that Lee had photographed so many
people dying in their last moments, taking

1321
01:18:44,000 --> 01:18:47,680
their last breaths, and I think
it's really powerful that her death was also

1322
01:18:47,920 --> 01:18:53,840
photographed in great detail in a way
that's kind of like poetic justice, you

1323
01:18:53,880 --> 01:18:56,279
could say, depending on how you
look at it. But I just thought

1324
01:18:56,319 --> 01:19:00,600
either way, it was pretty pretty
impactful, which is interesting. She deletes

1325
01:19:00,640 --> 01:19:02,640
that photo of Sammy that she took
of him. Yeah, right, so

1326
01:19:02,640 --> 01:19:05,520
that just shows like the different growth
and where they're at in their arcs and

1327
01:19:05,560 --> 01:19:12,079
how maybe someday Jesse will I think
to delete an image like that. But

1328
01:19:13,119 --> 01:19:15,439
yeah, I hope that when it's
all over, Jesse's like, just I

1329
01:19:15,439 --> 01:19:19,039
hope. I imagine she'll be absolutely
devastated by that death. But in that

1330
01:19:19,119 --> 01:19:23,399
moment, the adrenaline and like that
idea of getting that shot just kind of

1331
01:19:23,399 --> 01:19:27,159
blinded her by it. But I'm
sure it's gonna stick with her afterwards.

1332
01:19:27,680 --> 01:19:30,239
Yeah, it's tough with it when
she's looking so cold at the end.

1333
01:19:30,239 --> 01:19:31,319
I think it could go that way, or it could go the way where

1334
01:19:33,039 --> 01:19:35,640
it's not even a blip on the
radar for anymore, you know, because

1335
01:19:35,640 --> 01:19:39,399
there's some people that could be like
that. And that's where I think.

1336
01:19:39,439 --> 01:19:41,640
I like that ending, because we
never got that answer. It's up to

1337
01:19:41,680 --> 01:19:45,760
the beholder. So and I have
I to me, I think it was

1338
01:19:45,800 --> 01:19:47,359
meaningful Low when we had that scene
very early on in the movie when Dun

1339
01:19:47,439 --> 01:19:51,359
says, like just in her bathtub
and she just like can't even space out

1340
01:19:51,399 --> 01:19:55,079
because when she does, she just
pictures all these things she's seen, and

1341
01:19:55,119 --> 01:19:57,399
I just feel like that's gonna be
one of those moments for Jesse that she

1342
01:19:57,520 --> 01:20:00,680
just keeps reliving over and over again. The other thing I want to watch

1343
01:20:00,720 --> 01:20:02,720
too is there's a I think sometimes
just for dramatic effect, but there are

1344
01:20:02,760 --> 01:20:06,520
times where they did shots where it
was a different type of lens where it

1345
01:20:06,560 --> 01:20:12,880
was them centered focus but all around
the leg and like ledges were they weren't

1346
01:20:12,880 --> 01:20:15,279
like rainbow I'm sure because I'm not
great at the tech and lenses, but

1347
01:20:15,279 --> 01:20:19,560
they all had like a rainbow s
different color, like crystallized flare around them.

1348
01:20:19,760 --> 01:20:21,880
Yeah, a couple of times.
I don't know, So I want

1349
01:20:21,920 --> 01:20:26,119
to go back and when I watch
again, pick the scenes when it's there

1350
01:20:26,159 --> 01:20:28,560
and it's not, because it would
kind of pop up throughout it was like,

1351
01:20:28,600 --> 01:20:30,039
Okay, this section has that this
section doesn't. So I don't know

1352
01:20:30,079 --> 01:20:33,239
if it was required or things,
or if there's like a maybe as things

1353
01:20:33,279 --> 01:20:36,880
go along this like in a certain
emotion they have this or is it just

1354
01:20:36,920 --> 01:20:39,720
hey, this looks cool and I
want to use it here, right,

1355
01:20:39,760 --> 01:20:43,319
But I know, yeah, maybe
that is like some specific perspective in the

1356
01:20:43,319 --> 01:20:45,760
same way that the black and white
photographs or lease photographs to kind of put

1357
01:20:45,800 --> 01:20:49,079
you in their shoes for a moment, right, Yeah, so you know

1358
01:20:49,239 --> 01:20:56,159
look for that on the rewatch.
Did you guys uh interpret the scene of

1359
01:20:56,439 --> 01:21:00,159
get Sammy was dying in the vehicle
and they're just driving through a nighttime you

1360
01:21:00,199 --> 01:21:02,600
see like the fire and the ashes. I thought it was visually like a

1361
01:21:02,720 --> 01:21:06,960
really wanful scene, but I just
how I'm curious how you guys interpreted it.

1362
01:21:09,800 --> 01:21:12,279
That's interesting. Yeah, I don't
know if I have an interpretation yet

1363
01:21:12,279 --> 01:21:15,000
because I was wondering with what it's
going on. It's burning down everything like

1364
01:21:15,039 --> 01:21:18,399
that, so I wasn't sure if
there's some sort of symbolism there, but

1365
01:21:19,359 --> 01:21:23,920
visually very nice. But yeah,
for what it meant, I'll have to

1366
01:21:23,960 --> 01:21:27,720
sleep on it a bit. I
mean it it was really powerful for me

1367
01:21:27,840 --> 01:21:31,520
just because of like how many freaking
forest fires we have here is like in

1368
01:21:31,560 --> 01:21:35,960
our province. Just them driving through
that and having these really visceral shots of

1369
01:21:36,000 --> 01:21:39,920
a forest fire was pretty impactful.
But yeah, I don't know if maybe

1370
01:21:39,960 --> 01:21:42,520
you was supposed to it because that
when we first had the shot from up

1371
01:21:42,560 --> 01:21:45,680
above, because we get that like
a big aerial view of that sequence and

1372
01:21:45,680 --> 01:21:47,319
then them driving through it, and
I was just like, yeah, I

1373
01:21:47,359 --> 01:21:51,279
guess there's probably no firefighters to go
put out this forest fire, so you

1374
01:21:51,319 --> 01:21:55,920
have something like the nature element to
it. When something like this is going

1375
01:21:55,960 --> 01:22:00,000
on and this forest is getting just
absolutely obliterated and there's no one that's gonna

1376
01:22:00,079 --> 01:22:01,800
stop it and it's just gonna keep
going. I'm thinking about how that would

1377
01:22:01,840 --> 01:22:04,800
affect, you know, like the
fire we had last year in Klona,

1378
01:22:04,880 --> 01:22:09,039
if there was no firefighters even trying
to put that out, just how much

1379
01:22:09,439 --> 01:22:12,960
more devastating that would have even been. So yeah, I don't I don't

1380
01:22:12,960 --> 01:22:16,640
know. It's weird because it does
feel like it's kind of a separate concept

1381
01:22:16,680 --> 01:22:19,640
to what the rest of the movie
is supposed to be politically and like message

1382
01:22:19,640 --> 01:22:24,239
wise. But yeah, it's like
an isolated moment. It is still pretty

1383
01:22:24,279 --> 01:22:28,000
powerful. Well that's that's well,
that's exactly it too, because they it

1384
01:22:28,039 --> 01:22:31,000
just felt it felt different, and
it just felt like after the heaviness with

1385
01:22:31,039 --> 01:22:34,680
the pleming scene, it was just
like a moment almost like reprieve in a

1386
01:22:34,760 --> 01:22:40,159
chaotic sort of way, while we're
just we're with Sammy in this situation and

1387
01:22:40,359 --> 01:22:44,399
he's just got his hand out the
window and they're like almost like fireflies.

1388
01:22:45,640 --> 01:22:48,479
But yeah, it is. It
is very impactful. It's especially being where

1389
01:22:48,479 --> 01:22:53,199
we are and just the fires and
such. But yeah, I didn't even

1390
01:22:53,199 --> 01:22:57,760
think about that. Actually, when
you don't have the the infrastructure to deal

1391
01:22:57,840 --> 01:23:03,119
with something on a natural nature chaotic
level, that's that's even worse. And

1392
01:23:03,199 --> 01:23:08,640
same thing too, like is that
fire just made by the wars or like

1393
01:23:08,680 --> 01:23:12,439
a campfire, searette or whatever,
or is something being burned down purposely as

1394
01:23:12,520 --> 01:23:15,439
like a message or a clear area? Right? That's another thing too,

1395
01:23:15,520 --> 01:23:19,000
like what's happening currently here? So
yeah, yeah, I definitely could have

1396
01:23:19,039 --> 01:23:23,119
just been like the fallout of some
other battle going on. But I don't

1397
01:23:23,119 --> 01:23:26,199
think we really saw the battle so
much. We kind of just saw the

1398
01:23:26,239 --> 01:23:30,960
fire, right, Yeah, but
pretty much anywhere you go there's something off

1399
01:23:30,000 --> 01:23:32,880
of the distance. But I always
thought that looked the bullets in the in

1400
01:23:32,920 --> 01:23:35,880
the sky, especially at night.
Yeah, they just looks so cool.

1401
01:23:36,199 --> 01:23:40,479
It's just a great effect. I
think they nailed it. Yeah, Like

1402
01:23:40,520 --> 01:23:44,720
it's I feel like there's they try
to make little jokes and stuff in moments

1403
01:23:44,720 --> 01:23:46,760
where you can laugh at and some
stuff. It's it's I feel like it's

1404
01:23:46,760 --> 01:23:51,560
inappropriate to maybe laugh at because it's
unfortunate. People are dying, and it's

1405
01:23:51,600 --> 01:23:56,960
war and it's very it's serious business. But again they try to play off

1406
01:23:57,000 --> 01:24:00,119
the humorous moments, like when Joel
walks out, he's like, I'm so

1407
01:24:00,000 --> 01:24:02,800
so hard right, Oh, yes, he just wants to go in like

1408
01:24:02,840 --> 01:24:05,640
photograph. It's like, man,
you're drunk. It's not good to go

1409
01:24:05,680 --> 01:24:09,199
at night time. You don't know
what it's like. Well, yeah,

1410
01:24:09,199 --> 01:24:11,880
that's what I was curious too in
the first act. Not that I need

1411
01:24:11,880 --> 01:24:15,039
this because one of my favorite movies
is American Psycho, so I don't need

1412
01:24:15,079 --> 01:24:17,600
the character to be likable or to
be the good guy. But at first

1413
01:24:17,680 --> 01:24:20,079
I was worried of like, oh, I don't like, are the any

1414
01:24:20,079 --> 01:24:24,640
of these characters likable? Like is
there anything about them? Because they're not

1415
01:24:24,680 --> 01:24:27,079
taking advantage but their job they have
and they're kind of taking it. Like

1416
01:24:27,279 --> 01:24:29,720
he's smiling at the beginning. It's
like, oh, these people are literally

1417
01:24:29,760 --> 01:24:32,000
getting mascred in front of you.
So luckily the film did, but there

1418
01:24:32,119 --> 01:24:35,119
was a worry of Okay, there's
a few routes gonna go. You gotta

1419
01:24:35,119 --> 01:24:38,680
hook me, or you gotta make
them so kind of bad or shitty people

1420
01:24:38,680 --> 01:24:41,399
that gotta make them really entertaining.
And at the beginning I was a little

1421
01:24:41,399 --> 01:24:45,399
worried because like, ah, now
they're not over the top like very charismatic

1422
01:24:45,439 --> 01:24:47,600
characters and they're acting kind of shitty. But eventually the movie did hook me.

1423
01:24:47,640 --> 01:24:49,920
But that was a way I had
in the first act where because they're

1424
01:24:50,039 --> 01:24:57,039
very just nonchalant about the whole thing. So yeah, definitely my notes have

1425
01:24:57,079 --> 01:25:04,039
been depleted personally, same for me. I think I am out file thought

1426
01:25:04,079 --> 01:25:09,560
fredom Yeah, no, I this
is a really fun discussion because think we

1427
01:25:09,600 --> 01:25:13,520
all kind of had some different perspectives
or thought about certain things differently, and

1428
01:25:13,560 --> 01:25:15,199
I think it'll be one of those
for people. So I'm curious to see

1429
01:25:15,560 --> 01:25:18,680
hopefully some more discussion than are discord
from people seeing this over the over the

1430
01:25:18,680 --> 01:25:21,960
weekend, see what people think about
it, see some of those uh those

1431
01:25:23,039 --> 01:25:26,119
uh letterbox reviews and all that.
But this was a really great time.

1432
01:25:26,199 --> 01:25:30,039
I I don't know why I haven't
yet gone back to Alex Garland's like previous

1433
01:25:30,079 --> 01:25:34,600
movies, Like I know, it's
been on my back up for so many

1434
01:25:34,640 --> 01:25:38,560
years now, especially like it's weird
that men was the first one I saw

1435
01:25:38,680 --> 01:25:40,960
this, and I I'm just like, I'm at a point now where I

1436
01:25:41,000 --> 01:25:43,000
kind of want to see everything he
does, which is cool. I have

1437
01:25:43,000 --> 01:25:45,680
another one of the directors who I
just want to see all their movies.

1438
01:25:45,199 --> 01:25:47,520
But yeah, he doesn't really have
that many looks like, so it's probably

1439
01:25:47,520 --> 01:25:50,119
poor. Yeah, pretty easy to
go back and check them all out.

1440
01:25:50,199 --> 01:25:53,840
And I've never I've never watched,
but I hear great things. I think

1441
01:25:53,880 --> 01:25:56,720
it's just like a six epsom mini
series. He did this thing called Dev's

1442
01:25:57,279 --> 01:26:00,199
Excuse we were wrong. I think
it's about aar technolog Maybe I'm wrong,

1443
01:26:00,319 --> 01:26:05,680
but nick Offfman's the star of that. So that Spinney's in it? Oh

1444
01:26:05,840 --> 01:26:10,520
is she? And wait, what
the heck am I reading this right?

1445
01:26:10,600 --> 01:26:15,279
I am? And the lady who
plays Anya like that other journalist and like

1446
01:26:15,319 --> 01:26:16,680
the helmet near the end of the
movie. Okay, she's in that,

1447
01:26:16,840 --> 01:26:20,159
And apparently I think one of the
other journalists. Like a lot of the

1448
01:26:20,760 --> 01:26:24,840
list, Okay, I like often. Then I'm starting to like more.

1449
01:26:24,880 --> 01:26:28,880
I think there was an error where
I just he was a meme from Parks

1450
01:26:28,880 --> 01:26:30,399
and Rec and I enjoyed Parks and
Rec. So just I kind of got

1451
01:26:30,399 --> 01:26:33,279
over it, but between Last of
Us and this and there's other stuff where

1452
01:26:33,279 --> 01:26:36,359
I'm like, I think I'm on
the bandwagon finally, so that might bump

1453
01:26:36,439 --> 01:26:40,000
up to my list now. But
there's another one too, but people say

1454
01:26:40,239 --> 01:26:44,399
great things about that, so but
yeah, definitely Xmakna's an Annihilation is really

1455
01:26:44,439 --> 01:26:47,600
cool. Annihilations like a smaller version, not smaller version of Men. It's

1456
01:26:47,640 --> 01:26:50,600
like Man where it's very trippy,
but not to that extent where it's really

1457
01:26:50,600 --> 01:26:54,600
out there, but another third act
that's like, Wow, this is some

1458
01:26:55,319 --> 01:26:58,479
different shit going on. It's unique. So yeah, No, it seems

1459
01:26:58,520 --> 01:27:02,199
like every movie he's going like complete
one eighty somehow from what he's done previously,

1460
01:27:02,239 --> 01:27:08,079
So that's pretty cool. Mister Phil
foul thoughts and raining. Yeah,

1461
01:27:08,159 --> 01:27:13,760
I think everything that we kind of
got to discuss was tonight was fantastic.

1462
01:27:14,000 --> 01:27:16,239
I loved hearing your guys' approach to
this film, and like, for me

1463
01:27:16,359 --> 01:27:20,600
personally, I think that what I
was expecting out of this movie was very

1464
01:27:20,640 --> 01:27:26,920
different from seeing the trailer and then
getting to indulge in the perspective of the

1465
01:27:26,960 --> 01:27:31,560
press going on this road trip and
just experiencing everything it. It really had

1466
01:27:31,800 --> 01:27:38,119
so many different tones to it of
intensity of humor, and it's just it's

1467
01:27:38,119 --> 01:27:40,720
something that you really have to sit
on. And I'm really looking forward to

1468
01:27:40,800 --> 01:27:44,039
watching it again and spotting things out, because I feel like there's a lot

1469
01:27:44,079 --> 01:27:46,239
of things that you're gonna miss on
the first viewing and a lot of things

1470
01:27:46,279 --> 01:27:49,920
that you'll notice on the second and
probably even the third. So I'm looking

1471
01:27:50,039 --> 01:27:55,479
very much forward to that. I
think that, like I said at the

1472
01:27:55,479 --> 01:28:02,399
beginning, there are things in this
film that are scary, scarily realistic to

1473
01:28:02,439 --> 01:28:08,960
a degree where you could see people
people just get fed up. I mean,

1474
01:28:09,000 --> 01:28:13,520
we these people, these people want
to kill the president. And I'm

1475
01:28:13,560 --> 01:28:20,359
not. I'm not I'm not hear
me out, I'm not carefully, I'm

1476
01:28:20,399 --> 01:28:26,720
not condoning, and I'm not I'm
not in fining anything. Violence is not

1477
01:28:26,800 --> 01:28:30,840
the answer. But here in Canada, I just think that there's interesting parallels

1478
01:28:30,880 --> 01:28:34,119
because you have a Prime minister who's
on his third term and you got people

1479
01:28:34,199 --> 01:28:39,279
openly driving around vehicles with huge flags. I see it on a daily basis,

1480
01:28:39,479 --> 01:28:43,720
Fuck Trudeau plaster all over their vehicles
everywhere I go, even other cities

1481
01:28:43,760 --> 01:28:46,840
I go. It's all over the
place, is daily and I think that

1482
01:28:46,840 --> 01:28:50,680
that says something. I think that's
why doing a movie like this is not

1483
01:28:51,159 --> 01:28:55,079
far fetched and people see movies and
think, oh, it's all just make

1484
01:28:55,119 --> 01:28:57,319
believe. Yeah, Ana, But
I think that that's one of the most

1485
01:28:57,319 --> 01:29:00,600
powerful things about some of these movies. While it is Hollywood, I think

1486
01:29:00,640 --> 01:29:04,560
you have to take it sometimes with
a grain of salt in the sense that

1487
01:29:04,560 --> 01:29:08,399
maybe it's not the right way to
saying it, that there there are some

1488
01:29:08,640 --> 01:29:15,840
realistic tones in these films that could
somehow eventually be it could be like a

1489
01:29:15,920 --> 01:29:18,239
real life scenario, and I think
you have to be very careful about about

1490
01:29:18,279 --> 01:29:23,199
that and like just be aware and
not you can't always turn a blind eye.

1491
01:29:23,199 --> 01:29:26,279
And I think that if you have
movies like this that incite that uh,

1492
01:29:26,520 --> 01:29:29,960
incite the conversation, that's already much
better than violence. It's already the

1493
01:29:29,960 --> 01:29:32,479
first step to going down a better
path and going down this path of civil

1494
01:29:32,520 --> 01:29:35,600
war or anything along those lines.
If you talk about these things and you

1495
01:29:35,600 --> 01:29:40,840
communicate, again, that's what that's
what democracy is. In this sense of

1496
01:29:40,840 --> 01:29:44,279
this movie, it seems like this
president was leaning towards a dictatorship, and

1497
01:29:44,359 --> 01:29:46,840
that again insights to obviously this conflict
that we're seeing here. But I think

1498
01:29:46,880 --> 01:29:49,840
that you want to you want to
communicate, you want to talk these things

1499
01:29:49,840 --> 01:29:54,640
out. And I think that ultimately, if that is the case and this

1500
01:29:54,720 --> 01:29:59,000
president was a dictator and he was
trying to just take control, YadA,

1501
01:29:59,079 --> 01:30:02,159
YadA, YadA, I like that
how I like that it turns around where

1502
01:30:02,159 --> 01:30:06,239
he's like, I want safe passage
out of here, like the woman secretary

1503
01:30:06,279 --> 01:30:13,319
lady he gets taken a news Yeah, like that's not gonna New Zealand Alaska,

1504
01:30:13,399 --> 01:30:16,399
Like that's not gonna fly. No, like the damage has been done.

1505
01:30:16,439 --> 01:30:20,039
Man, Like I love that actress
because she's not she's only in it

1506
01:30:20,079 --> 01:30:24,960
for the not the The lady that
was saying that was fine, but the

1507
01:30:25,000 --> 01:30:27,319
soldier lady was like, no,
yeah, we just want to talk to

1508
01:30:27,760 --> 01:30:30,159
like like it was so cool and
calm, and you're like, oh,

1509
01:30:30,319 --> 01:30:34,800
she's just gonna pop this motherfucker as
soon as she's like it's like a nice,

1510
01:30:34,880 --> 01:30:40,279
calming, almost trustful way, but
she gives enough of a hint in

1511
01:30:40,279 --> 01:30:42,840
her voice to go, oh,
we can't trust y'all. And then they

1512
01:30:42,880 --> 01:30:45,359
just shoot that lady too, like
it's just gone, but yeah, shout

1513
01:30:45,359 --> 01:30:48,359
out to like just a mini few
scenes that Soldier actors had. But she

1514
01:30:48,399 --> 01:30:50,520
did great, and I hope I
see her like pop up another stuff and

1515
01:30:50,560 --> 01:30:55,479
that piguer stuff. So but in
closing, yeah, I just I think

1516
01:30:55,479 --> 01:31:01,079
that this movie has very real messages
in here that people need to they need

1517
01:31:01,119 --> 01:31:05,600
to form their own perspectives on and
they need to kind of try to be

1518
01:31:05,800 --> 01:31:10,720
open to here and not very dismissive
over something like this that is very bold

1519
01:31:10,760 --> 01:31:14,279
and very scary. I think people
need to open the door to conversation and

1520
01:31:14,319 --> 01:31:18,880
communicate about these things and really just
yeah, really just think about it,

1521
01:31:19,000 --> 01:31:23,279
think about it a lot, because
we're in the real world right now.

1522
01:31:23,279 --> 01:31:27,239
We are, and we're not in
a good position. People are people are

1523
01:31:27,239 --> 01:31:34,039
getting pissed. But my one last
show here too for Taylor CAMPI yeah,

1524
01:31:34,199 --> 01:31:41,399
I'm gonna go three terms. You
can do that. Yeah, you're five

1525
01:31:41,399 --> 01:31:45,119
for three terms. The other reporter
that was he was with the girl at

1526
01:31:45,159 --> 01:31:47,920
the beginning and then at the end
he had the camera. He was in

1527
01:31:47,960 --> 01:31:53,880
the camp quarder filming stuff. The
actor's name is Jefferson White, and he

1528
01:31:54,000 --> 01:31:58,039
completely just threw me off because as
I'm binge watching Yellowstone Heart, he's a

1529
01:31:58,039 --> 01:32:00,880
main character in that show. So
just the clo. I was like,

1530
01:32:00,039 --> 01:32:03,399
oh my god, like it just
totally pulled me out of it for a

1531
01:32:03,399 --> 01:32:08,239
little bit, because I'll try to
make Yellowstone happen. I just knocked.

1532
01:32:08,279 --> 01:32:11,399
I couldn't believe it. I've never
seen the guy in anything else, and

1533
01:32:11,560 --> 01:32:13,760
just to see him and this like, oh my god, like to me,

1534
01:32:13,800 --> 01:32:16,039
you're not this character, You're a
different character. That's the one thing

1535
01:32:16,079 --> 01:32:19,039
that really pulled me out of this. You're gonna get a joker too,

1536
01:32:19,079 --> 01:32:23,199
and be like, I bet Arthur
Fleck would really like Yellowstone. I would,

1537
01:32:23,520 --> 01:32:26,680
Yeah, yeah. I thought for
sure those reporters weren't gonna make it

1538
01:32:26,680 --> 01:32:30,680
either. I thought because I kept
doing this back and forth of shoot our

1539
01:32:30,760 --> 01:32:31,640
characters shoot the other character. So
I thought it was gonna go like that,

1540
01:32:31,680 --> 01:32:34,000
and I thought we're gonna get that
way shot and they're gonna like,

1541
01:32:34,239 --> 01:32:38,239
wh shouldn't go Because things were exploded
all around them. I thought, all

1542
01:32:38,319 --> 01:32:41,720
they're goners, but they never were. They followed the decoy truck out and

1543
01:32:41,720 --> 01:32:45,279
they got the badge like the wrong
shot. But I thought they were goneers

1544
01:32:45,279 --> 01:32:48,079
the way they were framing those shots
like something's gonna happen here. And I

1545
01:32:48,119 --> 01:32:51,159
did too. When that one scene
where the barricades are and then the entrance

1546
01:32:51,159 --> 01:32:56,279
to the White House. Yeah,
basically Joel's just calling over to just like

1547
01:32:56,319 --> 01:32:59,159
get over and over, and she
moves and then they take her spot.

1548
01:32:59,199 --> 01:33:00,680
I thought that's where they it was
gonna get blown up, but yeah,

1549
01:33:00,680 --> 01:33:04,680
you're right. They pulled through,
and yeah, you see the suv and

1550
01:33:04,760 --> 01:33:09,000
the officials get out and they're just
yelling don't shoot, don't shoot, and

1551
01:33:09,039 --> 01:33:13,840
they just get fucking just gunned down. No conversations, no conversations. Yeah,

1552
01:33:13,880 --> 01:33:15,119
but I'm gonna give this movie.
I'm gonna give it a nine out

1553
01:33:15,159 --> 01:33:18,039
of ten. I think the only
point I'm docking it is just it was

1554
01:33:18,119 --> 01:33:25,119
a very slow intro. But maybe
that maybe that could change after I watched

1555
01:33:25,119 --> 01:33:27,560
this movie a second or third time, and maybe the intro has a lot

1556
01:33:27,600 --> 01:33:31,439
more things that make sense retrospectively towards
the end and just how the things change.

1557
01:33:31,479 --> 01:33:36,680
But I really really enjoyed this movie, and I really like the messaging

1558
01:33:36,840 --> 01:33:41,880
and the journey and the experience and
just the way that they were to deliver

1559
01:33:42,000 --> 01:33:45,520
this perspective to the audience. So
yeah, yeah, that's exactly why I'm

1560
01:33:45,560 --> 01:33:49,880
nine at ten and I'm taking the
same stance as Taylor that I imagine at

1561
01:33:50,000 --> 01:33:53,319
least I don't know where we are
right now, Like i'd say, okay,

1562
01:33:53,319 --> 01:33:55,520
it's in my top five right now, but we're in April. But

1563
01:33:55,840 --> 01:33:59,479
I imagine we will talk about this
again Cometime next year, and I'm sure

1564
01:33:59,520 --> 01:34:02,720
Kirk will see it, and so
I'm excited because this is one of those

1565
01:34:02,720 --> 01:34:05,680
movies I would have hate for it
to come on like December and then we're

1566
01:34:05,680 --> 01:34:09,520
doing nominations like a few weeks later
and be like, oh, like I

1567
01:34:09,520 --> 01:34:12,039
haven't had a chance to see it
again, because I think this is a

1568
01:34:12,079 --> 01:34:13,920
movie I could get up to higher. I don't know if I could ever

1569
01:34:13,960 --> 01:34:15,600
have it at a out of ten, but at the same point, I

1570
01:34:15,600 --> 01:34:18,680
could see it be one of those
movies that the more you sit on it,

1571
01:34:18,760 --> 01:34:21,520
the more you talk about with people, Like I said in that perspective

1572
01:34:21,520 --> 01:34:26,439
that I had a Joel of losing
Lee and his freak out versus you know

1573
01:34:26,439 --> 01:34:28,960
what Taylor said about like all the
reasons he freaked out here first they're like,

1574
01:34:29,000 --> 01:34:31,319
Okay, I kind of can see
some of those situations. That's where

1575
01:34:31,600 --> 01:34:35,119
for me sitting on it, talking
about it and seeing it again, but

1576
01:34:35,600 --> 01:34:39,800
yeah, just very well made,
well acted, well crafted, makes you

1577
01:34:39,880 --> 01:34:42,640
think. And I also why I
need to second watch this? Like I

1578
01:34:42,640 --> 01:34:45,800
said, it was different than I
expecting. I went with a completely different

1579
01:34:45,800 --> 01:34:48,039
movie in mind, and luckily I
still liked the movie I got. So

1580
01:34:48,119 --> 01:34:50,600
yeah, nine out of ten would
kind of being my top five. I'd

1581
01:34:50,600 --> 01:34:54,880
probably put it go. Where what
did I just watch? What if we

1582
01:34:55,079 --> 01:34:58,800
watched last week? There's something in
the past two weeks? Oh, monkey

1583
01:34:58,800 --> 01:35:02,239
Man, Me and Kirkle Salt Monkey
and it's close Monkey Man Lisa Frankenson in

1584
01:35:02,279 --> 01:35:04,960
this they're all like a three way
tie for second. Dude, it's still

1585
01:35:05,079 --> 01:35:09,720
big dunes up there. But where's
uh, where's this in your your Garland

1586
01:35:09,920 --> 01:35:15,560
rankings? Two? A lot of
people like Annihilation, not an Annihilation as

1587
01:35:15,680 --> 01:35:17,439
love hate. I just feel like
it's like you either like it or you

1588
01:35:17,600 --> 01:35:20,600
fuck. I love and not like
the people that love Annihilation, they'll go

1589
01:35:20,640 --> 01:35:25,880
to bat the funny enough again,
the third act doesn't really work for me,

1590
01:35:26,000 --> 01:35:29,840
and I just for me, there's
more potential there. But I've never

1591
01:35:29,920 --> 01:35:31,800
watched it again, and I've been
wanting to because I want to give another

1592
01:35:31,880 --> 01:35:35,880
chance. X mak And is like
ten at ten sci fi classic, like

1593
01:35:35,920 --> 01:35:40,159
one of the all TME greats.
And then Men is definitely at the at

1594
01:35:40,199 --> 01:35:43,319
the bottom there. I just really
love the setup of Men. It's just

1595
01:35:43,359 --> 01:35:45,560
like we you know, check out
Me and Dylan's Men review. Just miss

1596
01:35:45,600 --> 01:35:48,680
missed the mark for me. But
even that movie, it's much like other

1597
01:35:48,720 --> 01:35:51,960
people. We talk about Agger's Aster, you know. For me, that's

1598
01:35:51,960 --> 01:35:57,560
gonna be Emerald Fennold's Like whatever they
make, there's always something interesting about it.

1599
01:35:57,600 --> 01:36:00,359
And maybe it doesn't always hit,
but there's a style and character to

1600
01:36:00,439 --> 01:36:02,359
it's the same thing like Man Like. I don't know, I'll watch it

1601
01:36:02,399 --> 01:36:08,319
again, but it's a very well
crafted movie. There's just some crazy swings

1602
01:36:08,319 --> 01:36:10,439
there. Check out Me and Dane's
Men review. It's on the feed somewhere,

1603
01:36:10,479 --> 01:36:12,399
so I'll check it out. Yeah, and I guess we'll probably be

1604
01:36:12,439 --> 01:36:14,960
here for a war frame. He
says he's retiring, but I don't.

1605
01:36:14,960 --> 01:36:16,359
I'm both clay. I don't think
that's true. But he's at least directing

1606
01:36:16,399 --> 01:36:19,359
one more movie, so we'll see. But that has a really good cast.

1607
01:36:19,399 --> 01:36:21,079
So yeah, we'll be back.
I'll see you next week. You

1608
01:36:21,119 --> 01:36:25,640
on news next couple of weeks,
there's gonna be Apes and fall Guy and

1609
01:36:25,680 --> 01:36:28,479
a bunch of other movies coming out, So stay tuned. Thank you very

1610
01:36:28,560 --> 01:36:31,319
much for tuning in. And when
you hear this, I got one more

1611
01:36:31,399 --> 01:36:35,680
thing, let's throw in here.
It was at the end of the movie.

1612
01:36:36,000 --> 01:36:40,800
So Travis, Travis, when he
was dealing with this guy, we're

1613
01:36:40,840 --> 01:36:45,479
back to the bizarro guy. I
pulled up my phone because he sent me

1614
01:36:45,479 --> 01:36:50,560
a message. Guy sent you a
message before we went the movie played,

1615
01:36:50,560 --> 01:36:55,199
I sent him a message, so
I I didn't I didn't look at the

1616
01:36:55,199 --> 01:36:57,840
message until the end of the movie
and I lean over at Travis. You

1617
01:36:57,840 --> 01:37:02,479
know this fucking guy you can tell
you can tell what you were trying to

1618
01:37:02,520 --> 01:37:04,560
type, because the guy was he
was dropping on you a little bit,

1619
01:37:04,680 --> 01:37:09,039
he said, so I because I
may Nima was the old guy. I

1620
01:37:09,079 --> 01:37:12,640
don't know if Harry told in the
right fashion. But look, I'm confused

1621
01:37:13,199 --> 01:37:15,520
Tex and Taylor, because I thought
he'd see it from the movie. I

1622
01:37:15,560 --> 01:37:17,439
said, this fucking guy like talking
about the guy beside me. But he

1623
01:37:17,479 --> 01:37:20,159
didn't see it till ast the movie. So he pulled up the phone and

1624
01:37:20,199 --> 01:37:23,880
he's like, this fucking guy,
what does that mean? Like he's asking

1625
01:37:23,960 --> 01:37:27,119
me. The guy didn't hear because
he was talking to his wife luckily,

1626
01:37:27,479 --> 01:37:30,560
and it's so funny because I was
typing on my notepad one it did feel

1627
01:37:30,600 --> 01:37:33,560
like the guy was trying to look
over my phone and I was thrown off.

1628
01:37:33,600 --> 01:37:36,159
I wasn't sure if you just saw
like guy and he's like talking about

1629
01:37:36,159 --> 01:37:40,960
me that yeah, sure, But
I thought, oh, I'm gonna type

1630
01:37:41,000 --> 01:37:43,279
it out that I'm gonna show it
to Taylor before the movie starts, and

1631
01:37:43,359 --> 01:37:45,279
in my mind, like, I
better not do that because Taylor might fuck

1632
01:37:45,359 --> 01:37:49,039
this up. And that message at
the end completely because first he pulls out

1633
01:37:49,079 --> 01:37:51,600
this fucking guy. Like if that
guy was any tune in, he would

1634
01:37:51,600 --> 01:37:55,760
have looked over and it would have
been a tad awkward. But yeah,

1635
01:37:56,239 --> 01:37:58,920
shout out to that fucking guy,
and I hope to never see you again,

1636
01:37:59,159 --> 01:38:01,680
but know we'll see. But thank
you very much. Between your good

1637
01:38:01,720 --> 01:38:05,239
tailor said it, Oh okay,
thank you, have a good one. Bye,