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Well here we are happy CFL twenty
twenty three kickoff day. Read here with

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the Mark Hast decked out in my
BC Lions gear, tremendously excited. I

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have my co host for this adventure
standing by before I get to a little

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bit of programming on here. Excited. We have our big CFL pregame show

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tonight, right, big guest list, Dan Naylor, Dan Ralph, We

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got Darryl Darryl Davis coming on everyone
else tomorrow morning. If you want our

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XFL coverage as normal, Andy Murray
and I will be back to Professor who

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might be stopping by here near the
end of the program. But Andy and

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I are going live tomorrow morning ninety
m Pacific, twelve Eastern. We're doing

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our XFL plotting the chorus for XFL
twenty twenty four. So if you're here

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for the CFL content welcome, I
have my zoa here. We have been

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enjoying football content since February. But
if you're back for the CFL welcome today,

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we're going to be doing your weekly
previews recaps. Jason's going to be

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joining us your weekly Monday recaps as
normal, but we will have our XFL

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content this Friday. So enough rambling
for me. I'm going to bring in

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a Jason here, Jason Husey.
Jason, how are you doing. Welcome

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to the show. I'm doing great. Thanks for inviting me. Honestly,

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it's such an honor to be a
part of such a great show. Well,

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I'm serious. I was sitting here. We've been doing the XFL stuff

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and just all the guys and Andy
and Evan and Pat. Everyone has been

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so great. Matt Lyons, everyone
else, Anthony Miller and I gotta get

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just someone that can do you want
to pop in, that's fine, the

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professor. I'm sure I'll do fly
buys and stuff, but if we need

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to have someone dedicated you. We've
been interacting online for years. You have

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your own great YouTube channel as well, so I appreciate Jason coming on.

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Why don't you tell everyone just quickly
what you do. We'll get it in

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everything today, all right. So
I run the YouTube channel Hussy's Huddle,

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And basically what I do is I
upload about a couple of videos a week.

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I do a preview video, a
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then you know, little other videos
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throughout the season. But I also
do an extensive offseason content. My idea

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is trying to make my channel the
most consistent CFL content out there on YouTube.

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And I've been running for about three
years now and I've been pretty proud

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of what I've accomplished over there.
So if you want some great CFL content,

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go check it out. Yeah,
Jason's great. We're going to be

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doing like I said Monday recaps,
it's been really successful with the XFL going

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through and even the USFL as well, So doing live, I just I

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don't see a lot of that in
the space and being able to take contents

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and all that. If we have
people checking in, Max already happy to

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see Hussy here on in the spotlight. Max is already excited for that.

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So we're gonna bring it. Darryl's
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minutes. I have a lot of
stuff to talk with Darryl about. Like

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I said, we have Dave Naylor, Sarah's coming on far Hume, we

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have Marty York as well, Blast
from the Past Marty. But I want

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to make sure we talk enough about
the game here because we might spiral all

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this to day and everything else.
BC alliance at Calgary Stan Peters here.

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We gotta do one of these in
Vancouver so I can get there. But

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what are you looking forward to?
I think I'm really looking at the quarterbacks

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tonight. Honestly. I think going
into the season, obviously the big story

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is Nathan Rourke leaving the BC Lions'
offseason and burnand Adams taking hold of a

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starter's job yet again, and then
behind them you have Dane Evans, and

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I think they've kind of, you
know, obviously they're not the similar in

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terms of style of quarterback, but
you look at, you know, in

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terms of inconsistencies they've shown throughout their
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But I think maybe them together this
is a very very much Break Cup

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contending team. So I'm interested to
see how it works out this year for

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the Lions and then for Calgary obviously
moving on from Bolievi, I Mitchell,

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how does Jake Mayre Doug excuse me, how does Jake Mayre do in his

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first season as a CF all starter. I think we saw that with Dane

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Evans last year. I looked great
when he had another guy there, and

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with Jeremiah Mazzoli, but I think, you know, going forward, um,

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you know, if can you really
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guy in the spotlight. I'm really
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Calgary. I'm excited. I love
Jake. We have him on pre season

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last year, even with Bo was
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get my hitch, my wag into
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of winning the faces of the franchise. Amazing Calgary, you know, stumbles

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into you know, doesn't snubble,
but it gets believe I you know,

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franchise quarterback there and now Bow moves
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you know, another great quarterback waiting
in the weeks. I love Vernon Adams

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as a person. He's been on
the show multiple times. I love him

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on Arrow Up, you know,
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I just don't know if I love
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the entire season. What do you
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separate him from the locker room leader? And do you think Burdon will still

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be the VC line starting quarterback here
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bound to be a situation where Burnon
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then Dane will take hold for a
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he'll struggle, and then I think
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a couple of times this season.
Eighteen game schedule, a long year in

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the CFL, and I'm interested to
see because, like I said, they've

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both been pretty inconsistent players. I
think burning the main problem with him has

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been the sporadic accuracy. I think
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know, sometimes he's in the low
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really stands out when you look at
the CFL game and some of these other

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numbers that other guys are putting up
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that. He was very accurate when
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So I'm interested to see how Burnon
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Again. Yeah, it's I don't
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I mean, this is nothing against
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like, can both of them combine? Can we get a starting quarterback there?

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Right? Because I Burned in scares
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or front flips and trying to scramble, and you know, Dan didn't really

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I never really seemed to kind of
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Great Cup loss and all of that. I just don't know what I make

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of that. I love the BC
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team, as I call them.
I just I would like to see them

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be competitive. Do you do you
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BC competitive throughout the season. Well, I think it helps that they have

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a great supporting cast. I think, you know, their defense looks excellent.

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I think it has the chance I
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them, they have the chance to
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year. Great secondary, very deep
front seven. So I think that's going

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to keep them in a lot of
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the receiving core is gonna make their
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their offensive line. The left tackle
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Handmilton Tigre Cats in free agency.
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before last year, so we'll see
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But I think that you know,
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of each other, I think they
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the leaders for a great Cup intention
in twenty twenty three. Tim kapri Chevy

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checking in here Montreal Alwitt's flight Deck
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last year and for the season kickoff. The only way I could talk that

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was getting you know, eighteen guests
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kudos to Tim and Cliffy over there
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of you know, movement to Hamilton. Obviously, James Butler here a big

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loss for the Lions. I had
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about that with the Tie Catts.
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game here? Because it was horrible
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of you know, obviously had had
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of them moving forward now? Well, I think a lot of it comes

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down to the offensive line, and
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lot over the past couple of years, especially in terms of their Canadian guys

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on the interior. I think that
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Kwan Mozzell I believe his name is, that's starting the game tonight, have

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some success, but at the end
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of it comes down to their game
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before they had James bother that leaned
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was really to their detriment. I
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balance, they had a lot more
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how they do. You can't really
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of these guys end up being some
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away. In the CFL, benefit
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rage and they're not just like twenty
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an NFL rookie. You know,
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years old, have played in professional
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of these guys can really hit the
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if Mozelle does that. Tonight,
we have our first guest, Dandy Byer

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Hero. I'll bring him on in
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first, and then we'll toss the
Darrow player standing by a lot's been made,

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And I want to talk with Dary
about his article of the Canadian of

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the CFL. John Hodge had this
article out last night with three that nation

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recent friend of the show. Now, you know, John and I are

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kind of working to bury the hatchet
there. Um this whole like it's a

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mockery now and the rosters and they
we're starting the designated nationals and kind of

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all that stuff. What do you
make of this? Knew it was the

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CBA and no one knew how it
was going to work, But now coming

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in it's like kind of we're breaking
the fourth wall and it's not people who

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don't seem happy. Well, yeah, it just seems like the teams have

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kind of manipulated the rule to not
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Like you said, like, um, I think this was intended for American

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players that, you know, not
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but had been in the league for
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them to kind of continue their career, kind of like Sean Lemon, maybe

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a guy that fits that bill.
Maybe not a guy that you know,

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you see how much he's moved around
the league, you know, not a

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guy that teams really trust to be
their number one starter. Um, you

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know, on a consistent basis,
so um, you know, rotational eyes

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like that. That was the intention
of the rule. But at the end

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of the day, I don't think
it's really done, you know, when

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you're actually seeing it in practice here. I mean, I didn't really think

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it was going to be this confusing. I don't really know how they screwed

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it up as much as they did, but yeah, it's kind of disappointed

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to see it kind of make a
mockery of the game a little bit.

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I kind of do agree with John
Hodge a bit. Darrel, if you

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already give me a thumbs up,
we'll bring you on here. I see

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Darrell's he's got big thumbs up here, Joe Davis. Here was my tour

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guide back in Regina for the Great
Cup. We have Darrel back here,

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Darl Davis, How are you all
right? Read? There's not much tour

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in Regina though, is there?
Well? No, but so you Darryl

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famously was our closing act from our
first ever CFL Gray Cup show back in

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Hamilton. Now leading off tonight,
Daryl, how did you make it all

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the way to the top of the
lineup. I don't know attrition, I

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guess read or everybody else is busy. Is that it? No, It's

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good it worked out. You know, there is a reason why I kind

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of prerecord a lot of these interviews
because then I can get people on.

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Obviously um our do and I try
work to get him on. Schedules didn't

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allow it today, and that will
bring him on during the season. Daryl,

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I want to talk with you and
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this American and the Canadianess and the
CFL. You had your article. I

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had pinned to bring you on a
couple of weeks ago, just ran out

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of time. What do you make
of all this roster shenanigans? Oh my

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goodness, as you guys have been
talking about it, it seems silly now,

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right like what they started out,
it was supposed to be forty nine

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percent of the plays and Nationalized American
could play. Now it's twenty three plays.

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It just seems like it's changing.
They don't They'm not sure what they're

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doing, and the toughest part is
they don't know how to enforce it.

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You know, they're going to try
to keep track and then tell the benches

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that with five plays left or three
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player has to come out. It's
just it's just silly. Let's just go

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back to make it simple. I've
always in favor of more Canadians than the

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CFL. Not that I hate Americans
playing in the Canadian Football League. Obviously

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they had a lot to the CFL
over the years. Historically they're the best

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players, of course they are.
But let's give Canadian players that great opportunity

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all the time to play in the
Canadian Football and make sure because it's tougher

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to get Americans. There's the XFL, there's the USFL, there's Arena Football.

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NFL rosters are expanding all the time, so there are fewer top quality

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American players available. Let's give more
roster space to Canadians and throughout all these

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stupid designated International Globe or whatever they
are players that they're making up. Jesson,

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what do you make of that?
We had on when they were doing

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the CBA's last year, and I
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I think Daryl was on as well, talking like all this and either we're

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messing with the ratio and stuff.
Now what do you make of this the

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canadianness of the game. Well,
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of split on it. I've always
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American fans and stuff that are like, oh, what the hell is this

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ratio thing? So I do think
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in the ratio completely away, I
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the connections that Canadians have to the
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it's been built up over a number
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that's why you really couldn't do without
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rule that they brought in, the
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it. I think that it's just
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didn't it's just kind of overly complicated. And I thought when they had introduced

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this that this was going to kind
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wouldn't really notice it. A lot
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opening week depth charts and it was
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over here. And that's basically my
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what do you make is here?
And you know we're trying to do the

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single game sports betting and you know
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the USFL like we get depth charts
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and we want people to gamble on
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that. But now we have these
this depth chart kind of kerfunfle What do

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you make of this? Well,
it's gonna be confusing in a lot of

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ways, isn't it. What about
players who are supposed to be paid extra

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in their contracts first starts? Is
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national lot It's just it's silly stuff
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That I asked Jeremy O'Day, the
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me this forty nine percent rule the
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and point at me and started laughing. Hysterically, and he said, well,

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you know what I'm gonna do.
They're all he said, I'm going

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to watch the other games this weekend
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other teams, because the rough Riders
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so they get the advantage of watching
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connection, and you're right, it's
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say they came from Tulane, they
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and if you're going to grow the
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important. The reason I always think
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if we take it out, of
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for Canadian players because they're reserved,
and I think that hurts grassroots. But

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it also then suddenly the CFL is
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system, a second class league to
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a sudden, the best players are
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second and third and fourth best players
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are good enough to play, we
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chance to play. And we have
these unique rules, including the ratio,

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which makes the league a little bit
different. There's already the USFL, there's

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the XFL, there's American colleges,
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National Football League. The CFL could
become that, and of course they want

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to produce players to make the big
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the National Football League. But if
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system for the NFL, I think
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Well, here's my thing and thoughts
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You know, we talk all this
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You know, Hodge was on last
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and said, you know, we
want CFL wants the xivent on the USFL

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to die. You know, they
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sure we're getting all the players up
here. Yeah, you had this,

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this ratio now that's supposed to protect
I mean, d God forbid, if

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the XFL exists for five years.
Do we even need to worry about that?

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Or and then we're like, oh
my god, we need to get

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Canadian players now. Yeah, Well, it is making making it tougher for

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the CFL to get American players.
So is the NIL right in American colleges

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that the players are making a lot
more money now in college, so they

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don't they're spoiled a little bit and
don't have to come to the Canadian Football

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League to earn money anymore. They've
made enough in their college careers perhaps,

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and they're not so eager to come
here. So that's why I can see

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John Hodds saying that the CFL wants
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I don't know if that's one hundred
percent accurate. You know, they've seen

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a lot of leagues over the years
come and go. Some of them have

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had a little bit of success here, and they're having football around and having

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people talk about football. I think
in the long run benefits every league that

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is around, because then suddenly you
know more about the game. You know

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somebody who's playing the game, You
can identify with people who are involved with

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it, and I don't think it
hurts the game of football or hurts the

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Canadian Football League to have the USFL
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football and all those other alternatives.
The CFL is unique in its way.

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I know that everybody says it's shrinking. I just think that it's it's the

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side of the times. The way
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there's less interest paid in it.
But I think that it can hang

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tough and keep its business model intact
and continue to exist for a long long

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time. Jason Are, Yeah,
what do you judge like the hype level

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right now going into this year,
because obviously, you know two years ago

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is coming off the XFL and the
canceled season last year, we have all

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the CBA Steff, it feels like
a clean offseason. We're getting into all

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this. I mean, do you
do you sense an overwhelming excitement right now?

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I think so, because yeah,
like like you said, this is

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the kind of the first year that
we haven't had any kind of disruption going

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into the season or some kind of
dark cloud hanging over the league. I

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mean, obviously the shortened twenty twenty
one season to cancel twenty twenty s in

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the year before, Um, you
know, just brought a lot of negative

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press to the league, the commissioner
going to the House of Commons and asking

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for you know, federal funding for
the bailout the league. Honestly, um

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was, you know, just kind
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So I think that it's good that
we have kind of a clean runway,

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like you said to h to reach
the season here in twenty twenty three,

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and I think that's helped it alone. Daryl, what other storylines are you

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tracking into this season? Obviously we
talked a little bit vern in and everything

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going on with the quarterback staff and
BC. You know, Hamilton here playing

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Winnipeg over the lots of history between
that every the weekend. What do you

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what do you tracking here? Storylines? Well, it will be all the

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quarterbacks. I mean, what's remember
no labor strikes this year too, Jason,

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Right, last year we had a
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So that's that was really unusual and
I had never seen it before.

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In all my years of covering the
Canadian Football League. There were threats every

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year, but first time I ever
saw any job action taken, So that

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was different and maybe a bit of
a black cloud hanging over the league.

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It's it's all about the quarterbacks,
as this league always is, as all

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leagues are. You know, it
all filters down from who's playing where in

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the mid nineties, and forgive me
for that read, because I've been following

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this league a long time. But
when the when the CFL expanded to the

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Canadian to the United States, all
the great quarterbacks were wooed away from their

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teams with money paid for. They
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Uh, you know, Matt Dunnigan, one of the great players,

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went to the Birmingham Barracouters. Damon
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went to the Memphis mad Dogs.
David Archer, a former NFL or

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ended up playing for the Sacramento Goal
Miners. So all these great quarterbacks were

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swinging around. It was like a
calliope, like a Merry go round,

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going around and around and around.
Everybody showed up in new places. And

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it's kind of like that this year, right, every how many how many

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teams are starting the same quarterback they
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only one is Winnipeg, right,
If I if I'm not, if I'm

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not mistaken on now, and so
that's unusual new quarterbacks in new places.

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It makes it easy for everybody to
follow the big story because as fans can

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talk that they know about the offensive
line and the running backs and the receivers,

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but all they almost everybody knows about
is the quarterback. So it's pretty

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easy to say bully by Mitchell and
Hamilton, Wow, Trevor Harrison Saskatchewan,

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Wow, Nathan work has gone and
Vernon Adams in DC wow. You know

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Jake Meyer's terror cornelis? How are
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So it's pretty easy. Chad Kelly
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Right, there are so many things
that are going on in the quarterback

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position that that's where we're going to
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And I know it might be boring
and repetitive, but that's the biggest story

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that we're going to be following that
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Jason, how big was bo going
to Hamilton? From someone that's there,

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I think it's just a gigantic addition, honestly, Like I think that after

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the disastrous season like last year,
was just seeing as a complete disaster like

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I mean, look at the end
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look too bad. But I mean
at the end of the day, that

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team had break up aspirations last year
and really to get back in the good

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graces of the fan base, I
think they needed to make a splash like

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that. And I think if they
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guess Trevor Harris probably would have been
the guy that it would have targeted.

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But I mean, I don't think
that would have made as big of a

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splash is bringing in Ball when I
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He has a chip on his shoulder
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him play this year. Daryl,
I remember who I was talking to.

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It was one of the one of
our guests from this last week. If

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you had to market a quarterback,
would you if you had good to your

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head, would you rather have to
market Trevor Harris here in Saskatchewin or Code

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Ford in Montreal. I don't think
it's close. H Cody Viajardo was a

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wonderful guy. I have you made
up with him? By the way,

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We're friends good. I'm glad to
hear that because he's blocked like everybody on

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Twitter in all of Canada who's ever
criticized him. He's very thin skin,

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which is unfortunate because if you're playing
quarterback in Saskatchewan, you have to be

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able to take the criticism, and
he wasn't very good at that. But

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he is a nice guy, you
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the league are pretty decent guys because
they're not these spoiled athletes were often used

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to dealing with so marketing. Cody
Fajardo and Montreal. I got a kick

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out of him, even though he's
locked me on Twitter. Somebody will send

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me something and I've got another account
that I can go check. He's speaking

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French to the French to the French
Canadian speaking audience in Montreal and saying,

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welcome here, Joe Mapela, Cody
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quarterback in Montreal. So good for
him. He's he can be a marketer's

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dream because he tries really hard and
he's very personal. Trevor Harris just goes

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out and works. Every time I've
been at the writer office, it seems

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like even late at night watching the
Canadian Draft. He's in there working,

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watching film and what his workouts in
his attention to detail or legendary. I

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wasn't a huge Trevor Harris fan before
he got here. I always thought,

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you know what he messes up in
the big games. He's never won a

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Great Cup as a starting quarterback.
He's gotten there, but he's never won

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it. So he always think,
well, maybe there's something that prevents him

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from doing it. But when you
see what he's done here in Saskatchewan and

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the way that people are starred for
a hard hitting quarterback, a guy who's

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dedicated and keep saying he wants to
be here. He always dreamed about playing

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in Saskatchewan. That's a marketer's dream. But any quarterback who walks in here

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and New New is going to be
a marketer's dream. And how long does

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you stay up on the pedestal,
That's always the question I want to know.

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Yeah, I want to know the
Darrell Davis bernerd Twitter account. I

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think that would be interesting backstory to
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you know, I as a minor
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and XFL, I know what it's
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It must be a hard a hard
pressure here, hard celebrity pressure. Jason

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does this, does Trevor Harrison reginted? Does that excite you? Like if

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you had to go zero to zero
to ten, what is your excitement level?

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Well, on my channel, I've
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That's kind of a phrase I've kind
of coined him because I thought he

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really rejuvenated his career last year in
Montreal. I thought it would have been

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perfect he had I'm back. Obviously, the ownership situation there kind of revented

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him from doing so. I mean, I would have made the move if

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I was Saskatchewan. I do agree
that it is an upgrade over what they

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had, and I think Trevor Harris
gives them a better week to week floor.

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But honestly, he really doesn't excite
me a lot. And you saw

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what happened when he went to Edmonton
even you know, not even just a

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twenty twenty one season, which was
disastrous for Edmonton, but twenty nineteen he

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had had his struggles with the team. So honestly, he doesn't really excite

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me. I'm playing a tougher division
in the West Division, and I'm really

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interested to see how he does this
year, but it doesn't really excite me

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as a rough If I was a
rough Rider's Spanish Jason, it's interesting Storry

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to butt in on this read.
But this is Trevor Harris is what fifth

407
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CFL team in his twelfth season,
and as you said, he did revitalize

408
00:24:45.319 --> 00:24:48.680
himself in Montreal look pretty good last
season. Yesterday, in the media scrum

409
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after rough Rider's practice, one of
the reporters asked him, are you looking

410
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forward to going back to Edmonton?
This pause in the conversation, and he

411
00:24:59.799 --> 00:25:02.640
looked. He said, well,
not really. You know, I've played

412
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a lot of different places, and
everybody kind of you know, we all

413
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kind of shook our heads. And
then then he said, well, and

414
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to be honest, I like it
better here. He said, Well,

415
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I just I don't I just don't
know. And I know that they've you

416
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nave coined like Trevor's accuracy whatever.
I just don't know if he's head and

417
00:25:18.119 --> 00:25:21.759
shoulders better than Cody. And I
think you're well, I think it's gonna

418
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happen. Is Saskatchewan kind of rebuilt? You're refiguring out everything. I think

419
00:25:25.599 --> 00:25:26.960
Trevor is going to get the credit
where I think if you would have kind

420
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of build better around Cody or is
that am I have too much Rob Vanstone

421
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kind of in my ear? Well, he got a little bit of that

422
00:25:33.079 --> 00:25:36.759
because Rob Banston love Cody Fajardo and
still does. Right, so, and

423
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I know that you guys have just
made obsolete. You're probably probably on his

424
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side a little bit. But Cody
Fajardo did a lot of things wrong.

425
00:25:41.920 --> 00:25:45.759
You know, he couldn't read defenses. He holds onto the football too long.

426
00:25:45.960 --> 00:25:49.680
He has one amazing spin move to
get away, but everybody knew about

427
00:25:49.720 --> 00:25:52.839
that by the time he was done, so he wasn't effective anymore. You're

428
00:25:52.920 --> 00:25:56.400
right, there were a lot of
problems with the offense with Jason Moss,

429
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the coordinator wasn't calling things. They
did have a bad offensive line. They've

430
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rebuilt that offensive line. They've added
good receivers, They've gotten rid of the

431
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dead weight they were carrying last year
off their roster, and I think that

432
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they've really made an effort to help
Trevor Harris to be a better quarterback.

433
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And you're right, if Cody Fajardo
we're still here, this team would be

434
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better but I think Trevor Harris makes
it even better than that. What team

435
00:26:19.599 --> 00:26:25.119
performs better this year, I'll go
Jason and Daryl, Montreal or Saskatchewan.

436
00:26:25.119 --> 00:26:30.359
Which team gets the bigger boosts this
year? You want Jason the first,

437
00:26:32.599 --> 00:26:34.240
all right, So I actually have
both of them missing the playoffs, But

438
00:26:34.279 --> 00:26:38.640
I do have Saskatchewan finishing finishing with
an eight and ten record, so like

439
00:26:38.759 --> 00:26:42.319
just missing out on the playoffs,
Whereas I have Montreal as the worst team

440
00:26:42.319 --> 00:26:45.759
in the league this year. I
just think they've lost too many key pieces

441
00:26:45.759 --> 00:26:51.279
at key position, head coach,
quarterback, wide receiver, really difficult positions

442
00:26:51.319 --> 00:26:53.640
to a place over one off season. So um yeah, I would have

443
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to say Saskatchewan. I think sascatchwe
does have a chance of making the playoffs.

444
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I just personally didn't pick them.
Errold did Carl By a stinker of

445
00:27:00.400 --> 00:27:06.559
a franchise here. Yes, I've
never been at Danny machocha fan. I

446
00:27:06.599 --> 00:27:11.160
have never been a Jason Moss fan, and I really it's the best city

447
00:27:11.200 --> 00:27:15.319
in the CFL to visit, but
I think it has the worst team and

448
00:27:15.400 --> 00:27:18.160
the worst organization around it right now
in terms of administratively, in terms of

449
00:27:18.200 --> 00:27:22.319
putting a team on the field,
I think that they've taken a huge step

450
00:27:22.319 --> 00:27:26.640
backwards. As Jason said, the
ownership kerfuffle probably caused them a lot of

451
00:27:26.680 --> 00:27:30.720
problems. They wouldn't have lost Trevor
Harris if they weren't going through that ownership

452
00:27:30.799 --> 00:27:33.920
decision. Trevor Harris was ready to
stay in Montreal, and who knows,

453
00:27:33.920 --> 00:27:38.160
maybe Gino Lewis would have stayed and
they don't lose all those players Montreal is.

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As Jason said, I agree with
that the worst team in the CFL

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this coming season, Saskatchewan is better. I've gone out on a limb and

456
00:27:45.920 --> 00:27:48.920
said they're gonna win ten games.
I really think that they have filled And

457
00:27:48.960 --> 00:27:51.559
I'm not a homer. I never
cheer for them or I never cheer against

458
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them, but I keep thinking that
they've done a very good assessment of themselves

459
00:27:55.279 --> 00:28:00.400
and gone after the people who really
helped fill the holes or replace the players

460
00:28:00.440 --> 00:28:03.039
that they've lost. And one of
the assessments is Craig Dickinson, the head

461
00:28:03.039 --> 00:28:07.319
coach, has decided he's going to
get tougher on these guys about penalties.

462
00:28:07.680 --> 00:28:11.839
When he's been coaching three years here. The rough Riders have been the second

463
00:28:11.839 --> 00:28:15.240
worst the worst and the worst team
in the league for penalties assessed, and

464
00:28:15.279 --> 00:28:19.079
he said in the last preseason game
they only had one. So he seems

465
00:28:19.119 --> 00:28:22.839
to think that that's working, that
he's doing something that's going to make them

466
00:28:22.160 --> 00:28:25.759
better, give them a better chance
to win. And I think they're a

467
00:28:25.799 --> 00:28:27.079
better team. I think they're gonna
make the playoffs. Are they going to

468
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host a playoff game? I'm not
sure about that, but they're probably a

469
00:28:30.119 --> 00:28:36.000
playoff team. Are you just speaking
to penalize the suscassion wherefarres? Are you

470
00:28:36.079 --> 00:28:40.119
surprised Garrett Marino still is employed by
the USFL here going into week nine.

471
00:28:40.160 --> 00:28:42.799
We're a week nine. I'm surprised
he's anywhere. When I see the actions

472
00:28:42.880 --> 00:28:47.759
last year, I jumped on that
right away read I'm sorry, I'm tooting

473
00:28:47.799 --> 00:28:49.440
my own horn on this one,
and I apologize for that. But right

474
00:28:49.480 --> 00:28:52.400
after that game, I said,
they have to hand Garrett Marino and Apple

475
00:28:52.480 --> 00:28:56.599
in a roadmap and get him out
of the town so fast that your head

476
00:28:56.599 --> 00:28:59.640
would spin. But they just set
them there and said and couldn't wait for

477
00:28:59.720 --> 00:29:03.839
him to come back four games later, and it just totally destroyed their season.

478
00:29:03.880 --> 00:29:07.720
I've never, I've rarely seen an
incident. Well, when Corey Chamblin

479
00:29:07.799 --> 00:29:10.559
was coaching the Writers a few years
ago, there was one spot in the

480
00:29:10.640 --> 00:29:14.000
Ottawa game that he played a quarterback
he shouldn't have and you could just see

481
00:29:14.039 --> 00:29:18.000
the whole team disintegrate right there.
And that's what happened with Garrett Marino last

482
00:29:18.039 --> 00:29:19.400
year. They should have done that. I think they've learned from it since

483
00:29:19.440 --> 00:29:23.559
then. Yes, I'm surprised Garrett
Marino is playing anywhere. He's very talented,

484
00:29:23.759 --> 00:29:29.160
but he's very unpredictable and explosives.
He's a loose cannon on any team

485
00:29:29.480 --> 00:29:30.759
and if you can keep him in
line while you might have a talent.

486
00:29:30.799 --> 00:29:34.200
But I think that's difficult, and
he made explode or implode at any moment.

487
00:29:36.039 --> 00:29:37.400
Jason, Yeah, this is the
bad boy the CFL. Does that

488
00:29:37.519 --> 00:29:41.079
do anything from marketing or would you
rather have him out of the league.

489
00:29:41.680 --> 00:29:45.039
I think there's a fine line.
I think that. I mean, like,

490
00:29:45.880 --> 00:29:48.960
you know, some people would consider
Simony Lawrence, you know, a

491
00:29:49.039 --> 00:29:52.960
cheap player, but like, I
think that he's done. He's been a

492
00:29:52.039 --> 00:29:56.839
net positive for the league in the
you know, publicity and like the buzz

493
00:29:56.880 --> 00:29:59.279
that he gets round the league.
But I think that you know, with

494
00:29:59.359 --> 00:30:02.839
Garrett Marino. He has such a
history of being that kind of player,

495
00:30:02.920 --> 00:30:06.720
that kind of dirty player that I
mean, just not the player that you

496
00:30:06.759 --> 00:30:10.000
want to have in the league.
If you know, this league has been

497
00:30:10.079 --> 00:30:12.920
kind of hard on players that you
know, have troubled backgrounds a lot of

498
00:30:12.920 --> 00:30:15.799
the time. You look at Johnny
Manzel and how they just completely barred him

499
00:30:15.799 --> 00:30:18.480
from the league a few years back, and you know, I think,

500
00:30:19.039 --> 00:30:23.480
you know it was understandable to do
so for Marino as well. Next guest

501
00:30:23.519 --> 00:30:26.000
here should be hopping on soon.
We got Dan Ralph standing by here in

502
00:30:26.000 --> 00:30:29.079
a little bit, Darryl. I
want to make sure I get your take

503
00:30:29.319 --> 00:30:32.119
on the game at hand tonight.
You know, I don't want to do

504
00:30:32.440 --> 00:30:33.920
just this game can do everything.
But what do you make a BC at

505
00:30:33.960 --> 00:30:37.200
Calgary? Well, Vernon Adams had
a good preseason game, and he does

506
00:30:37.279 --> 00:30:41.200
have some explosive games. He's really
unpredictable, up and down and up and

507
00:30:41.240 --> 00:30:45.119
down. I can't see him sustaining
that all the time. That's why he

508
00:30:45.200 --> 00:30:51.440
keeps losing his starting job Calgary with
Jake Mayer stepping in, Well, it's

509
00:30:51.440 --> 00:30:55.519
a transition time, but they always
seem to put good pieces around their quarterback

510
00:30:55.559 --> 00:30:59.519
in Calgary. I'm never going to
bet against Calgary in the long term,

511
00:30:59.599 --> 00:31:03.759
so I think that I have to
probably even though it's a flamboy and quarterback

512
00:31:03.759 --> 00:31:07.359
against the guy who's proving himself.
I think I'm still sticking with the Calgary

513
00:31:07.400 --> 00:31:14.319
Stampeters in most games this year.
I do. Although it didn't BC didn't.

514
00:31:14.359 --> 00:31:17.119
BC kind of embarrassed Calgary at home
at the end of last season,

515
00:31:17.160 --> 00:31:19.319
wasn't that right? Probably, Yeah, you would remember that because it's your

516
00:31:19.359 --> 00:31:22.359
team, right, So I'm just
trying to remember I can't. I feel

517
00:31:22.440 --> 00:31:25.920
like, you know, I think
if Vernon can keep his head on,

518
00:31:26.079 --> 00:31:29.400
I don't know, it's he's he's
a super fascinating guy. I think he's

519
00:31:29.400 --> 00:31:32.799
a really neat guy. I've watched
the arrow up and kind of watching him

520
00:31:33.119 --> 00:31:36.480
interact with his teammates and everything.
I think is fascinating. That kind of

521
00:31:36.599 --> 00:31:40.920
is just a personality study, yes, but amazingly talented. And you know,

522
00:31:41.480 --> 00:31:44.680
he's been at different places because every
coach thinks, oh yeah, look

523
00:31:44.680 --> 00:31:47.039
at the skill level, look at
what he showed college, look at what

524
00:31:45.839 --> 00:31:49.599
he's capable of doing, and he
certainly can if he could do that even

525
00:31:49.680 --> 00:31:52.680
close to that consistently. What a
great career he could have had, but

526
00:31:52.680 --> 00:31:56.640
it just it's so up and down. He's so mercurial read that I don't

527
00:31:56.640 --> 00:32:00.759
know if he can sustain it.
And stepping in after Nathan Rourke. There

528
00:32:00.759 --> 00:32:04.440
are pretty high expectations out in BC. They have a decent team around him.

529
00:32:04.640 --> 00:32:07.160
He's got to fulfill those things.
He always takes it upon himself to

530
00:32:07.160 --> 00:32:08.960
be a leader and and and tries
to show that, and it seems like

531
00:32:09.000 --> 00:32:14.640
everything disintegrates around him. They've got
Dane Evans sitting there, who thrives in

532
00:32:14.680 --> 00:32:17.079
the two quarterback system. Maybe he's
the guy who ends up playing about most

533
00:32:17.119 --> 00:32:21.119
of the time. Who knows it's
tough, it's game one, it's fun

534
00:32:21.160 --> 00:32:24.680
to predict what might happen. Does
that and I'll get Jason sonsi it too?

535
00:32:24.720 --> 00:32:29.559
Does that kind of same with Trevor? Like having all this team does

536
00:32:29.599 --> 00:32:31.359
that stink on there? Does that
kind of hurt at this point? Or

537
00:32:31.440 --> 00:32:35.640
do you pete de fans just kind
of give up here like they'll like it

538
00:32:35.680 --> 00:32:40.319
doesn't bother them? What? Sorry? Like the Vernon has been on so

539
00:32:40.359 --> 00:32:44.880
many teams? Has been many ever
Harris too right? Yeah? Um,

540
00:32:45.119 --> 00:32:47.079
well, in terms of what have
they accomplished all the time. I think

541
00:32:47.079 --> 00:32:51.160
they're going to get another chance.
Of course, Vernon Adams and everybody's raven

542
00:32:51.160 --> 00:32:53.119
when it was the twelve for twelve
or thirteen for thirteen in the preseason game.

543
00:32:53.359 --> 00:32:57.720
You're going to give him a chance. But if things start to falter,

544
00:32:57.960 --> 00:33:00.039
it's so easy to point the finger
at the quarterback and say, I

545
00:33:00.160 --> 00:33:02.799
see he's never won anything. Things
are falling apart. Just like we knew

546
00:33:02.799 --> 00:33:06.799
it would happen with Nathan Rourk.
That never happened last year. It seemed

547
00:33:06.839 --> 00:33:09.079
like great and with the good quarterbacks
it rarely happens. They hit a bump

548
00:33:09.079 --> 00:33:13.000
in the road, but they don't
just go crashing into a valley. And

549
00:33:13.079 --> 00:33:15.680
these guys are both capable of driving
it right into a valley. The same

550
00:33:15.759 --> 00:33:19.920
question for you, Jason, about
that kind of like the multi teams stink

551
00:33:19.920 --> 00:33:25.839
on these quarterbacks. It's it's a
good question because we have seen the seamaws

552
00:33:25.839 --> 00:33:30.839
a weird league, and how we've
seen guys that have gone through They've struggled

553
00:33:30.839 --> 00:33:32.279
at their first couple of stops and
then all of a sudden, they you

554
00:33:32.319 --> 00:33:36.519
know, everything just clicks for them
and they become you know, a solid

555
00:33:36.559 --> 00:33:39.559
starting quarterback. But I mean I
think that for Burning, it's all about

556
00:33:39.599 --> 00:33:43.559
the consistency for him. I think
that, you know, I always say

557
00:33:43.559 --> 00:33:46.319
he doesn't do the easy things.
Well, I think that he's not great

558
00:33:46.359 --> 00:33:51.200
at taking those underneath check downs.
He's you know, really good at throwing

559
00:33:51.200 --> 00:33:54.440
the ball deep down the field,
making these crazy improvisational plays, but it's

560
00:33:54.559 --> 00:33:59.160
kind of keeping it simple is the
problem for him. And I'm interested to

561
00:33:59.160 --> 00:34:00.759
see how he does. Already did
a really good job of it when he

562
00:34:00.799 --> 00:34:05.160
came down the stretch last year at
BC. So we'll see how he does.

563
00:34:05.240 --> 00:34:07.839
But at the end of the day, I think that it's going to

564
00:34:07.920 --> 00:34:12.199
be tough for him to really have
that rebound because it can happen, but

565
00:34:12.280 --> 00:34:15.440
it is rare. I've a message
here, ralphaild We'll see Darrel. We're

566
00:34:15.440 --> 00:34:19.039
gonna keep you on here for a
minute. If that's okay, all right,

567
00:34:19.079 --> 00:34:21.639
I'm replaced Dan, Ralphi. Hey, I've done that before. Who

568
00:34:21.719 --> 00:34:24.960
knew you were carrying the one on
this Let's talk a little bit about to

569
00:34:25.119 --> 00:34:30.599
me. This isn't Maybe I disagree, you disagree that highest profile game of

570
00:34:30.639 --> 00:34:34.000
the weekend, the Hamilton the Winnipeg
game just because of believe I do do

571
00:34:34.039 --> 00:34:37.039
you think that that or what do
you make of that game here coming up

572
00:34:37.039 --> 00:34:39.559
tomorrow. Yeah, that's probably the
biggest one. Everybody wants to see how

573
00:34:39.559 --> 00:34:44.119
Winnipeg is. I was in Winnipeg
a couple of weeks ago. I went

574
00:34:44.119 --> 00:34:46.159
to play the Canadian National Rockeball Championship
in Winnipeg, and I stopped in to

575
00:34:46.239 --> 00:34:51.280
watch the Bomber's practice at training camp
and I talked to a couple of old

576
00:34:51.400 --> 00:34:53.920
X rough Riders, Patty and feld
Richie all the defensive coordinator, and visited

577
00:34:54.079 --> 00:34:58.119
and visited with Mike Michael Shay,
the head coach for a little while.

578
00:34:58.159 --> 00:35:01.199
And there's a different feeling was it
was. It was tangible that you could

579
00:35:01.199 --> 00:35:06.840
tell the difference between Saskatchewan where they're
approving and it's you know, there's this

580
00:35:07.039 --> 00:35:09.320
tense feeling around training camp that you
have to prove something, you have to

581
00:35:09.360 --> 00:35:14.119
prove you so you're worth and we're
going to show them and the laid it's

582
00:35:14.159 --> 00:35:15.840
not it's more of a laid back
attitude and winn a peg. I know

583
00:35:15.880 --> 00:35:20.159
that the coaches would resent that,
but there's that comfort level that they've done

584
00:35:20.159 --> 00:35:22.840
it before, they know what they're
doing. They just need a little bit

585
00:35:22.880 --> 00:35:25.320
of tinkering. The positions have already
been locked up, you know, they

586
00:35:25.320 --> 00:35:30.000
haven't had to make many changes.
It's such a solid team. They've been

587
00:35:30.039 --> 00:35:32.079
so good for so long that if
they win a great Cup this year,

588
00:35:32.079 --> 00:35:35.760
they're basically a dynasty. If they
had a one last year, which they

589
00:35:35.760 --> 00:35:38.599
were all seconds away from winning,
they'd be a dynasty. So they're They're

590
00:35:38.639 --> 00:35:43.079
a good team, and you always
want to see how the favorites are doing,

591
00:35:43.280 --> 00:35:45.480
and you want to see against because
Bully by Mitchell maybe one of the

592
00:35:45.519 --> 00:35:49.639
best personalities in the Kidnean Football League. How's he going to do with this

593
00:35:49.679 --> 00:35:52.280
new team that's kind of been constructed
around him? Does he have anything left?

594
00:35:52.320 --> 00:35:54.519
So? Yeah, to me,
that's the big game at the weekend.

595
00:35:55.000 --> 00:35:58.599
Do you agree with that, Jason, to take your you know,

596
00:35:58.719 --> 00:36:00.679
Hamilton homerism out of it, But
are you the most looking forward to the

597
00:36:00.719 --> 00:36:05.760
believe By debut a game? Yeah, That's definitely the game of the week

598
00:36:05.840 --> 00:36:08.639
for me. But I will say
this, I think the CFL absolutely got

599
00:36:08.639 --> 00:36:12.960
this week one schedule right. I
think we have four great games. But

600
00:36:13.000 --> 00:36:15.480
I do think, yeah, the
Winnipeg Hamilton won, there's just so many

601
00:36:15.519 --> 00:36:20.280
storylines. I'm always fascinated in sports, like when do these great teams come

602
00:36:20.320 --> 00:36:22.800
to an end? How does it
all fall apart from them? Kind of

603
00:36:22.840 --> 00:36:24.519
waiting for that for Winnipeg. I
think a lot of CFL fans are kind

604
00:36:24.519 --> 00:36:30.320
of waiting for Winnipeg to kind of
fall off eventually, just wondering how that's

605
00:36:30.320 --> 00:36:34.280
going to happen. I'm interested to
see what believe By Mitchell does. Obviously

606
00:36:34.360 --> 00:36:37.199
in his first game, I think
it's a tough ask to go to Winnipeg

607
00:36:37.239 --> 00:36:39.199
and win. But if he can
do that, honestly, it would be

608
00:36:39.199 --> 00:36:44.440
a hell of a start for the
Hamilton era for believe By Mitchell Darrel.

609
00:36:44.679 --> 00:36:45.760
I was gonna ask, damn this, but what do you the Toronto?

610
00:36:45.960 --> 00:36:49.480
There was so much stuff and the
schedule and everything, and you got the

611
00:36:49.519 --> 00:36:52.639
defending champions not playing here. I
know we've got the nine teams and all

612
00:36:52.639 --> 00:36:54.079
that said, but what do you
make of the Toronto not playing this weekend?

613
00:36:54.519 --> 00:36:59.599
Well, sometimes, as you say, one team always has to have

614
00:36:59.599 --> 00:37:01.440
a buy so which one is it? I agree with Jason, I think

615
00:37:01.480 --> 00:37:05.360
this is a good schedule. Let's
try to have another week right, they

616
00:37:05.400 --> 00:37:08.000
can bask in their glory and be
the reigning Great Cup champions for one more

617
00:37:08.039 --> 00:37:14.559
week and let everybody ask do they
have a suitable replacement at quarterback? Maybe

618
00:37:14.559 --> 00:37:17.480
it will build some extra interest in
ticket selling, so I have no problem

619
00:37:17.480 --> 00:37:21.360
with that. It's going to happen
once in a while. There are good

620
00:37:21.360 --> 00:37:24.000
meetings this week. This BC Calgary
game is a great game, the Saskatchewan

621
00:37:24.000 --> 00:37:27.880
at Edmonton game. Edmonton doesn't want
a home game in how many years,

622
00:37:28.159 --> 00:37:30.400
and Saskatchewan's kind of a rebuilt team
and one of their great rivals, so

623
00:37:30.679 --> 00:37:36.199
it's guaranteed win night in Edmonton there
if you if the Elks don't win,

624
00:37:36.760 --> 00:37:38.760
then you're at the game. You
get another ticket to the next game,

625
00:37:38.920 --> 00:37:42.599
and they keep giving you a ticket
until the Elks win a home game,

626
00:37:42.639 --> 00:37:45.599
which I think is a great promotion
and I'm interested in that. I want

627
00:37:45.599 --> 00:37:50.800
to you know, Taylor Cornelius is
an interesting guy at quarterback, so I

628
00:37:50.840 --> 00:37:52.920
want to see how these teams are
performing. Chris Jones does a good job

629
00:37:53.159 --> 00:37:57.960
in the second year when he's running
a franchise, So how Edmonton going to

630
00:37:57.960 --> 00:38:00.519
be there? There are a lot
of great games giving out of the buy

631
00:38:00.800 --> 00:38:02.519
no big deal. It might be
the that might be the right team to

632
00:38:02.559 --> 00:38:05.480
give the buy too. I think
Reid, if you were going to ask

633
00:38:05.519 --> 00:38:07.239
me who should get the buy in
Week one, I would say the Rainy

634
00:38:07.280 --> 00:38:10.880
Great Cup champions. And we have
a comment here w Jones. Week one

635
00:38:10.920 --> 00:38:14.920
should always have a Great Cup rematch. I mean, obviously you want Hamilton

636
00:38:15.039 --> 00:38:16.880
playing here because of the bow of
it all. Jason, if you had

637
00:38:16.920 --> 00:38:20.880
to put Toronto in here, I
mean there's there is a lot of intriguing

638
00:38:20.920 --> 00:38:23.320
matchups, even the Ottawa Montreal one
kind of that rivalry over there, But

639
00:38:23.559 --> 00:38:27.280
what would you how would you fit
Toronto in here if you had to go

640
00:38:27.360 --> 00:38:31.519
back? Yeah, I think it's
you take one of Autiwa or Montreal out,

641
00:38:32.039 --> 00:38:37.079
because I think the other three matchups
definitely have the most spice to it.

642
00:38:37.159 --> 00:38:39.559
I think that when you look at
you know, Jeremia Mizzoli being out

643
00:38:39.599 --> 00:38:43.559
for the first couple of games in
the season. Obviously that wasn't known when

644
00:38:43.599 --> 00:38:45.960
they made the schedule, but I
mean that takes a lot of juice out

645
00:38:45.960 --> 00:38:51.480
of that matchup potentially. So I
mean I think that maybe you take Outaway

646
00:38:51.519 --> 00:38:53.519
out, but I think that you
know, Toronto's probably is good a choice

647
00:38:53.519 --> 00:38:58.599
of any to take the first week
off honestly, they have gone with Tory

648
00:38:58.599 --> 00:39:00.559
read, they have gone with as
you'r as your texture said. They have

649
00:39:00.679 --> 00:39:05.639
gone with rematches with a Great Cup
quite often to open the season. But

650
00:39:05.880 --> 00:39:08.280
you know, there's some mess ups
in the schedule to Cody Tajardo won't be

651
00:39:08.280 --> 00:39:12.960
playing in Saskatchewan this year with the
Montreal Alouettes. That's not on the schedule,

652
00:39:13.119 --> 00:39:15.079
Bolie by Mitchell. The Hamilton Tiger
Cats won't be going back to those

653
00:39:15.119 --> 00:39:19.800
old stomping grounds in Calgary. So
you cannot make the perfect schedule. But

654
00:39:19.840 --> 00:39:22.760
they've done a pretty good job on
this year's Well it's hard, you know,

655
00:39:22.760 --> 00:39:24.920
because obviously and it comes out so
early, but then you have all

656
00:39:24.920 --> 00:39:29.679
this offseason kind of free agencies sound
like, I don't know, are they

657
00:39:29.719 --> 00:39:31.320
better off waiting to kind of figure
this out, to see how a little

658
00:39:31.320 --> 00:39:34.199
bit, you know, I know
the NFL and they kind of say,

659
00:39:34.239 --> 00:39:37.400
okay, well we gotta wait now, Okay Rogers is traded, Okay,

660
00:39:37.400 --> 00:39:38.400
now we're gonna put the Jets and
all this stuff. I mean, they

661
00:39:38.440 --> 00:39:43.920
have all their amalgamations there. But
are they better off waiting and not announcing

662
00:39:43.920 --> 00:39:45.320
it so far out and being able
to plan this a little bit better.

663
00:39:45.559 --> 00:39:47.679
Well, they can do that in
the NFL because they all have access.

664
00:39:47.679 --> 00:39:52.079
They all own their own stadiums,
don't they. But it's difficult to schedule

665
00:39:52.159 --> 00:39:57.360
in Toronto and Vancouver where the teams
and even Montreal where the teams don't really

666
00:39:57.360 --> 00:40:01.599
have priority on their on their scheduling
time. So yes, the NFL does

667
00:40:01.639 --> 00:40:06.639
that. Well. The CFL used
to get criticized vehemently, and I was

668
00:40:06.639 --> 00:40:08.760
one of the lead critics saying,
why are you waiting so long to put

669
00:40:08.760 --> 00:40:14.559
out your schedule? People want to
In Saskatchewan, people schedule weddings around Saskatchean

670
00:40:14.639 --> 00:40:17.400
rough Rider games, that people schedule
vacations around when the Riders are playing,

671
00:40:17.639 --> 00:40:22.159
so a lot of things have to
be done early enough. The fact that

672
00:40:22.199 --> 00:40:25.119
they did it early, I'm never
going to complain Now the CFL puts out

673
00:40:25.119 --> 00:40:28.840
its schedule because we can make our
plans, the media can make its plans,

674
00:40:28.880 --> 00:40:31.360
everybody can make social plans because the
schedule is put out earlier. So

675
00:40:31.480 --> 00:40:36.039
maybe they missed one, but it's
better to get the schedule out early than

676
00:40:36.079 --> 00:40:38.280
it is to put it out late
and have everybody haranguing them for not having

677
00:40:38.320 --> 00:40:42.320
it published already. Well, no, I mean XFL fans, so that

678
00:40:42.400 --> 00:40:44.239
we didn't have the schedule. Jason, what do you make of this,

679
00:40:44.280 --> 00:40:46.599
because I mean I get to travel
and all that we the exit velment.

680
00:40:46.639 --> 00:40:50.119
I think it was like six weeks
out before the CM and it was it

681
00:40:50.239 --> 00:40:52.000
was like dropped dead time there to
get it out. What do you make

682
00:40:52.000 --> 00:40:57.679
of the schedule planning? Well,
I think I don't necessarily have a problem

683
00:40:57.760 --> 00:41:00.920
with when they released the schedule.
I think having released pretty far out is

684
00:41:01.000 --> 00:41:05.880
not a big deal. But I
don't like the fact that, like in

685
00:41:05.960 --> 00:41:09.599
a nine team league, how does
not every team play at each other's like

686
00:41:09.679 --> 00:41:13.519
every stadium in the league. I
don't think I would explained that very right

687
00:41:13.840 --> 00:41:19.159
well, but like, how does
like Calgary not play at home against Hamilton?

688
00:41:19.280 --> 00:41:22.000
And like, I think there's a
couple every team I think has one

689
00:41:22.039 --> 00:41:24.400
team that doesn't have you know,
it doesn't come to their stadium. So

690
00:41:24.800 --> 00:41:29.000
I think that's a major problem.
I don't know why. I think it's

691
00:41:29.000 --> 00:41:31.639
really only become a problem in the
past couple of years since uh they you

692
00:41:31.679 --> 00:41:36.159
know, when came back from the
canceled twenty twenty season, they kind of

693
00:41:36.239 --> 00:41:38.719
pooled with the schedule, made it
more division heavy, but I'm not necessarily

694
00:41:38.719 --> 00:41:42.280
a big fan of that because I
think that, uh, you know,

695
00:41:42.400 --> 00:41:45.320
it's such a small league. I
think every team should be playing every team

696
00:41:45.360 --> 00:41:47.480
at every stadium. It used to
be a very simple solution, You're right,

697
00:41:47.559 --> 00:41:51.159
Jason, that it was there was
a home and home game against everybody

698
00:41:51.159 --> 00:41:53.679
in that accounted for sixteen games basically, and then they would add two against

699
00:41:53.679 --> 00:41:58.280
their division. But it ended up
that the Eastern teams, which were weaker,

700
00:41:58.679 --> 00:42:00.679
would be playing ten games against the
Western teams when you play home at

701
00:42:00.679 --> 00:42:04.000
home, because you've got five at
home, five away, So there would

702
00:42:04.000 --> 00:42:07.800
be ten games for Eastern teams out
of their eighteen would be played against the

703
00:42:07.840 --> 00:42:10.360
West, and when the West was
so much stronger, they started thinking maybe

704
00:42:10.480 --> 00:42:15.280
we better come up with an unbalanced
schedule because of that. It's unfortunate because,

705
00:42:15.599 --> 00:42:17.239
as you say, Hamilton, that
would be a really big show,

706
00:42:19.000 --> 00:42:21.639
Hamilton in Calgary. I would love
to see that one, but they don't

707
00:42:21.639 --> 00:42:23.159
have it on the schedule, so
that you know, you can't you can't

708
00:42:23.199 --> 00:42:27.440
predict everything's going to happen, but
it would have been a good one.

709
00:42:27.519 --> 00:42:30.559
But I understand, as you said, Jason, why they would like to

710
00:42:30.599 --> 00:42:35.039
be more concentrated on their divisional play. Daryl. We have our next guest,

711
00:42:35.079 --> 00:42:37.440
Dandy buy here, Sarah. Any
I think Darrell extended time. We

712
00:42:37.519 --> 00:42:40.559
might have to put out an APB
on Dan Ralpher. I'm not quite sure

713
00:42:40.559 --> 00:42:43.800
if Dan got held him at the
grocery store. Anything else from you before

714
00:42:43.800 --> 00:42:45.440
we let you go. I'm good. I look over to the season guys,

715
00:42:45.480 --> 00:42:47.760
and thanks for having me on.
I appreciate it. Darrel, I'll

716
00:42:47.800 --> 00:42:51.400
be there. I got my play
the flights booked. I got to go

717
00:42:51.440 --> 00:42:53.519
through Toronto again. Don't like that, but we'll be going to Seattle to

718
00:42:53.519 --> 00:42:57.480
Toronto and then down, so I
appreciate it. We'll see you hopefully up

719
00:42:57.519 --> 00:42:59.760
there at this week. All right, guys, take care. This is

720
00:43:01.559 --> 00:43:06.199
Darryl drops out. We're gonna bring
in Sarah. Now. I gotta get

721
00:43:06.280 --> 00:43:08.679
my browser bigger here, I can't. It's there we go. This is

722
00:43:08.679 --> 00:43:13.639
wonderful podcast. Sarah. How are
you doing? Hi? I'm great?

723
00:43:13.639 --> 00:43:16.920
How are you? We're good,
Sarah. Here, I'm moving transitional kind

724
00:43:16.920 --> 00:43:20.719
of stuff here following the season.
Just saw you pop up on the First

725
00:43:20.719 --> 00:43:22.599
and Out podcast with Mad and Nick. How is your life going? It's

726
00:43:22.599 --> 00:43:25.280
been great? Thank you? I
mean CFL's back. What can I say?

727
00:43:25.440 --> 00:43:28.760
Yeah, talking about this and you're
doing you know, you have some

728
00:43:28.840 --> 00:43:31.320
new projects, right We've seen you
work on and trying to get more CFL

729
00:43:31.360 --> 00:43:36.519
fans engage. What are you working
on right now? Yeah, basically what

730
00:43:36.559 --> 00:43:38.880
you're saying. I mean, it's
kind of piecing together a few different projects.

731
00:43:38.960 --> 00:43:43.199
So some things are still no work, but like I think it's going.

732
00:43:43.280 --> 00:43:45.400
It's great. You know, Like
I like making my own content,

733
00:43:45.599 --> 00:43:49.039
whether that's from home, whether that's
for you know, a different kind of

734
00:43:49.039 --> 00:43:52.960
platform. I think just getting that
out there and and giving fans something to

735
00:43:52.000 --> 00:43:54.239
look at, you know, during
the off season as well as now like

736
00:43:54.320 --> 00:43:57.599
during the season, it's kind of
my main goal, so I try to

737
00:43:57.639 --> 00:44:00.719
be flexible with it. There's not
a specific thing that I would say that

738
00:44:00.760 --> 00:44:04.440
I'm working on. It's more just
kind of keeping up what do you as

739
00:44:04.480 --> 00:44:07.280
storylines you're tracking here going end of
the season. Obviously we're talking BC Calgary

740
00:44:07.320 --> 00:44:09.320
the Night, but kind of everything
else. What are you looking forward to?

741
00:44:09.920 --> 00:44:13.880
Oh, there's so many storylines.
That's my problem is I just kind

742
00:44:13.880 --> 00:44:15.920
of love like looking at all of
them. One that I was thinking about

743
00:44:15.920 --> 00:44:22.239
today that really is exciting to me. Is actually the Saskatchewan rough Riders and

744
00:44:22.280 --> 00:44:24.480
Mentreal Allottes sort of thing that they
got going on there. I mean,

745
00:44:24.519 --> 00:44:29.519
obviously I'm connecting the two because of
the quarterback switch, right you got Trevor

746
00:44:29.559 --> 00:44:34.119
Harris who's now as Sakatchewan Roughriders,
and then you've got Cody fajarda with the

747
00:44:34.119 --> 00:44:37.440
Aloweds. And to me, the
intriguing part is that both of those organizations

748
00:44:37.760 --> 00:44:40.280
last season and even during the off
season a little bit, we're kind of

749
00:44:40.360 --> 00:44:45.440
chaotic, you know, in different
ways that they they but they both had

750
00:44:45.519 --> 00:44:47.280
that energy to them where you don't
really know where it's gonna go, do

751
00:44:47.280 --> 00:44:52.079
you Are they going to make the
correct changes in order to change the narrative,

752
00:44:52.199 --> 00:44:54.400
right, And they're both really trying
you could see, I mean obviously,

753
00:44:54.559 --> 00:44:59.519
especially with the Riders with their offensive
line, they're kind of free vamping

754
00:44:59.559 --> 00:45:02.159
that which is everybody was, you
know, asking for um. Trevor looks

755
00:45:02.199 --> 00:45:05.719
to be more settled as well,
we're there. And then on the other

756
00:45:05.760 --> 00:45:09.400
flip side, you have Cody Fajardo, who who's I think kind of liking

757
00:45:09.599 --> 00:45:13.960
you know, Montreal and not being
having everybody stare at him all the time

758
00:45:14.000 --> 00:45:17.159
with this intense blare because you know
how Riders fans are very passionate and stuff,

759
00:45:17.199 --> 00:45:20.320
and I think for him, he
couldn't handle that as much. So

760
00:45:20.639 --> 00:45:22.880
I think I think that's a really
cool storyline to follow. I mean,

761
00:45:22.920 --> 00:45:25.480
I don't want to compare them too
much. They're different, you know,

762
00:45:25.519 --> 00:45:30.039
even divisions, but I kind of
love looking at those dynamics. Jason,

763
00:45:30.079 --> 00:45:32.599
do you like that? Do you
like the Cody Fajar though here it's it's

764
00:45:32.679 --> 00:45:37.639
kind of like like mister Bean in
the Bean Movie, like we're going to

765
00:45:37.719 --> 00:45:39.559
the museum, Like it's kind of
just fish out of while. I mean

766
00:45:39.599 --> 00:45:43.159
that with all due respect, but
kind of a fisher. Do you like

767
00:45:43.239 --> 00:45:46.800
this? He is your sweet Cody
Fajar though with everything else. As long

768
00:45:46.840 --> 00:45:50.480
as he proves it on the field, I don't really have a problem what

769
00:45:50.559 --> 00:45:52.079
he does. Honestly. I think
that was the problem last year. He

770
00:45:52.079 --> 00:45:57.280
didn't really perform on the field.
And that's what the CFLs very year to

771
00:45:57.360 --> 00:46:00.320
year league. I mean, it
just takes one poor season the loop your

772
00:46:00.400 --> 00:46:02.960
job, and we saw that last
year with Cody. So he's gonna have

773
00:46:04.039 --> 00:46:07.079
to play well to fit in with
Montreal. I mean, you know,

774
00:46:07.119 --> 00:46:08.719
I think he's a great guy by
all accounts, but at the end of

775
00:46:08.760 --> 00:46:12.320
the day, it's all about performance
in this league, and I'm interested to

776
00:46:12.360 --> 00:46:15.719
see how he does and how Trevor
does in Saskatchewan. In terms of it,

777
00:46:15.719 --> 00:46:21.360
we'll go Jason back to Sarah.
In terms of Montreal, how much

778
00:46:21.360 --> 00:46:23.199
can it feels like a lot of
weights on Cody here, like how much

779
00:46:23.239 --> 00:46:27.559
can he realistically do coming in here? Obviously we have the new ownership and

780
00:46:27.599 --> 00:46:30.719
everything else, but kind of a
chaotic guy landing spot for him. I

781
00:46:30.800 --> 00:46:36.800
think the big question with Montreal,
like the big overarching question from you know,

782
00:46:36.840 --> 00:46:40.000
a schematic scan standpoint, is that
head coach Jason Moss He's never been

783
00:46:40.000 --> 00:46:44.440
a guy that relies on the running
game a lot, and that is Montreal's

784
00:46:44.599 --> 00:46:47.639
biggest strength. On paper. William
stand Back should be much better this year

785
00:46:47.679 --> 00:46:52.400
coming back from that injury. Walter
Fletcher very talented running backs well, Josh

786
00:46:52.400 --> 00:46:55.480
when Antwee. So I think if
they lean on that running game, that

787
00:46:55.599 --> 00:46:59.599
is kind of their path to success. I've said it before on my channel

788
00:46:59.639 --> 00:47:04.000
that Cody vigardod is just not that
great as a drop back in slang at

789
00:47:04.000 --> 00:47:07.639
forty times kind of quarterback. He's
better when he's you know, can use

790
00:47:07.760 --> 00:47:12.559
play action as an advantage and use
that athleticism run some bootlegs. So I

791
00:47:12.599 --> 00:47:15.920
think that is what I'm looking for
from a schematic standpoint from Montreal this season,

792
00:47:15.960 --> 00:47:20.000
and I think that's gonna be a
big key for their success this season.

793
00:47:20.760 --> 00:47:22.079
Far Han texting me in the background
here, Sarah, what do you

794
00:47:22.119 --> 00:47:24.840
make of Cody here with a Montreal
and let me try to figure out what

795
00:47:24.880 --> 00:47:29.159
he wants me to do with his
timing. I mean, for me,

796
00:47:29.239 --> 00:47:31.280
a lot of it is seeing the
mentality, right, he's kind of been

797
00:47:31.760 --> 00:47:36.159
to me he's a sassy player because
he kin he kind of like fights back

798
00:47:36.199 --> 00:47:38.679
through and he's defensive, that's the
word, right, And I think I

799
00:47:38.679 --> 00:47:42.079
think that could be a good thing
in a lot of ways, because you

800
00:47:42.119 --> 00:47:45.039
know, he really wants to show
that no matter what, you know,

801
00:47:45.119 --> 00:47:49.000
he's going to push back and he's
not going to kind of like be falling

802
00:47:49.079 --> 00:47:51.599
under the brick, so to speak. But at the same time, I

803
00:47:51.639 --> 00:47:55.320
think having that positive attitude, especially
in Montreal, is going to be very

804
00:47:55.400 --> 00:48:00.440
necessary because it's extremely different than the
Riders. Right, Obviously he had struggles

805
00:48:00.480 --> 00:48:04.079
there, but there's a huge fandom
there, or is in Montreal, it's

806
00:48:04.079 --> 00:48:07.320
a little bit less you know,
popular the the CFL, so he's kind

807
00:48:07.360 --> 00:48:08.840
of going to fly under the radar. But it's like you have yes to

808
00:48:08.920 --> 00:48:14.280
kind of be that leadership's presence still
regardless, and then you have obviously the

809
00:48:14.760 --> 00:48:17.840
whole organization is kind of had to
had to revamp itself, right, and

810
00:48:17.880 --> 00:48:22.400
so when you're in that stage,
you kind of assume that there's going to

811
00:48:22.440 --> 00:48:24.119
be more obstacles down the road throughout
the season. It's not going to just

812
00:48:24.199 --> 00:48:29.920
fly fly by in the ways that
it maybe has had done before. It's

813
00:48:29.960 --> 00:48:32.400
it's going to be hard, and
it's he's going to require some leadership again,

814
00:48:32.400 --> 00:48:36.119
like I said, And then I
don't know, I don't know what

815
00:48:36.159 --> 00:48:37.960
to make of it. I don't
There's also some injuries there that concern me.

816
00:48:38.039 --> 00:48:43.719
So it's it's going to be interesting
to see in terms of you know,

817
00:48:43.960 --> 00:48:49.880
the Ottawa everything else here against Montreal
and Jason the Missola thing came out,

818
00:48:49.960 --> 00:48:52.320
you know, he's not playing here
and then they got the week three

819
00:48:52.320 --> 00:48:53.800
bye week. What do you make
of that? Is Ottawa kind of trying

820
00:48:53.840 --> 00:48:59.119
to get stuff together here after not
a tremendously good last season. Well,

821
00:48:59.159 --> 00:49:02.800
I think It's very concerning to me
personally because this kind of dates back to

822
00:49:02.880 --> 00:49:06.760
twenty nineteen when he got injured.
He was off to a great start and

823
00:49:06.800 --> 00:49:10.960
then kind of a lower leg injury
again, and then obviously this past season

824
00:49:12.119 --> 00:49:15.039
or twenty twenty two, he suffers
another injury. So I'm very concerned.

825
00:49:15.320 --> 00:49:19.840
He's not a young guy. I
think he's like thirty five or thirty six

826
00:49:19.920 --> 00:49:22.480
years old, quietly, because he
took him a while to really establish himself

827
00:49:22.480 --> 00:49:25.880
in the CFL. So I'm interested
to see how he plays when he eventually

828
00:49:25.880 --> 00:49:30.000
comes back from that injury. It's
smart for Ottawa not to rush him because

829
00:49:30.000 --> 00:49:32.599
I think they have a Week three
buy, so I think their plan is

830
00:49:32.599 --> 00:49:36.559
to get him on the field in
Week four hopefully. But I mean,

831
00:49:36.639 --> 00:49:39.679
it's kind of concerning that he's coming
off big time injury once again, and

832
00:49:39.719 --> 00:49:44.039
he hasn't really played a full season
in a long time. Even in twenty

833
00:49:44.079 --> 00:49:46.360
twenty one with Hamilton, he missed
some games due to injury. So I'm

834
00:49:46.440 --> 00:49:51.679
kind of concerned for Ottawa and their
quarterback position because I don't really think Nick

835
00:49:51.800 --> 00:49:53.599
Arbuck was a guy that you could
really rely upon to win, as you

836
00:49:53.639 --> 00:49:58.920
saw the past couple of seasons,
Brandy given some live here. For Sara,

837
00:49:59.000 --> 00:50:01.800
I just can't give a re on
Ottawa at all. I just felt

838
00:50:01.840 --> 00:50:06.519
like they took the big two last
year with Missoli he got her. It

839
00:50:06.599 --> 00:50:08.360
really felt like it was a terrible
season. Though we have Bob Dyce in

840
00:50:08.400 --> 00:50:13.320
there right as the head coach.
And do you have any vibe at all

841
00:50:13.400 --> 00:50:17.400
on Ottawa here? Sarah did the
season It is a really tricky one because

842
00:50:17.400 --> 00:50:21.320
of the Missowa's situation, like you're
saying, um, and with Nick Arbuckle,

843
00:50:21.400 --> 00:50:23.679
I mean, he's kind of been
in around the league for a few

844
00:50:23.719 --> 00:50:25.920
years, so it's like, you
don't you don't feel like he's a sense

845
00:50:25.920 --> 00:50:30.960
of stability right in the quarterback position
at all. Um. In terms of

846
00:50:30.480 --> 00:50:34.599
just the vibe, I mean,
I think that there was a lot of

847
00:50:34.639 --> 00:50:38.119
hope right for Ottawa this year because
we thought people would come back because um,

848
00:50:38.679 --> 00:50:42.159
you know, even just seeing how
many trials played out, you're kind

849
00:50:42.159 --> 00:50:44.760
of thinking, well, they could
be on top, they could they could

850
00:50:44.800 --> 00:50:46.199
move forward. And then the the
Chad Kelly question, you know, are

851
00:50:46.199 --> 00:50:50.360
they going to be still that top
team if you have a new quarterback there

852
00:50:50.360 --> 00:50:52.920
as well, that's not as experienced
as MBT or some of the other guys.

853
00:50:53.119 --> 00:50:57.480
So I think when I placed Ottawa
kind of in the ranks, I

854
00:50:57.519 --> 00:51:00.559
think at first it was higher.
I think, honestly, it's probably going

855
00:51:00.599 --> 00:51:02.280
to be similar to last year.
If Missoli's not there, In my opinion,

856
00:51:02.360 --> 00:51:05.880
I think he might might be at
the very at the very bottom.

857
00:51:05.960 --> 00:51:09.239
Unfortunately, Cayson, what do you
make of that? I've kind of the

858
00:51:09.360 --> 00:51:13.280
vibes here. I'm still kind of
coordinating guests here in the background. Sorry.

859
00:51:14.000 --> 00:51:15.960
Well, I think another problem is
they've already suffered a lot of major

860
00:51:16.000 --> 00:51:20.000
injuries. I think you look at
a couple of the receivers that they brought

861
00:51:20.039 --> 00:51:22.519
in, Royland Addison they brought in
recently, who was injured at the end

862
00:51:22.559 --> 00:51:27.719
of last year, still recovering from
a pretty serious injury. Shack Evans,

863
00:51:27.760 --> 00:51:30.599
who comes in from the Scotch One
rough Riders. He's had a couple of

864
00:51:30.760 --> 00:51:35.039
injury riddled seasons. He was one
of the best receivers in the CFL in

865
00:51:35.039 --> 00:51:38.440
twenty nineteen, but a couple of
really inconsistent seasons in certains of staying on

866
00:51:38.480 --> 00:51:43.440
the field. So I think those
injuries are very concerning because I think the

867
00:51:43.639 --> 00:51:46.679
very thin at wide receiver behind Jalen
Acklin. I think you need a very

868
00:51:46.719 --> 00:51:51.480
deep receiving core to succeed in this
league, and I think that, combined

869
00:51:51.480 --> 00:51:54.199
with the quarterback injury, they're gonna
have a really tough time putting points on

870
00:51:54.239 --> 00:51:57.480
the board. I think in the
first couple of weeks of the season here

871
00:51:57.880 --> 00:52:00.960
with Nick Arbuckle, even when Missole
gets back, they really have trouble in

872
00:52:01.000 --> 00:52:04.880
those first four games last year.
I know it was a small sample size

873
00:52:05.079 --> 00:52:07.840
and they had a hard schedule,
but they had a hard time getting the

874
00:52:07.880 --> 00:52:09.880
ball into the end zone. They
don't really have that great red zone threat,

875
00:52:10.360 --> 00:52:14.719
So I think that's a concern for
Ottawa and why I don't think they're

876
00:52:15.119 --> 00:52:17.280
gonna finish very high in the CFL
standings this year. But I could be

877
00:52:17.320 --> 00:52:22.039
wrong. We got Dan sandy By. We'll go back to Sarah one more

878
00:52:22.039 --> 00:52:23.480
time. Anything else from me,
and then we're gonna hurry up offense here

879
00:52:23.519 --> 00:52:27.559
because we have far Hunt calling in
here with the in stadium thing here coming

880
00:52:27.599 --> 00:52:29.960
up in a bit. Sarah,
anything else? Can we appreciate you calling

881
00:52:30.039 --> 00:52:31.880
into that? Yeah? Thanks for
having me. I'm just excited for this

882
00:52:31.920 --> 00:52:35.599
game. I mean, I think
it's such an interesting matchup. They were

883
00:52:35.599 --> 00:52:39.119
both twelve and six last year.
You know, the quarterback situation is kind

884
00:52:39.159 --> 00:52:42.719
of brand new. Obviously, Jake
Mayer was there last year, so it

885
00:52:42.760 --> 00:52:44.960
was Vernon. But to me,
this is like a fresh start where they

886
00:52:45.000 --> 00:52:49.239
really get to begin and hopefully end
with the team. I think that with

887
00:52:49.280 --> 00:52:52.199
what we saw with Vernon in the
preseason was really a ray of hope for

888
00:52:52.280 --> 00:52:58.440
BC, especially you know post Nathan
work, where there's that momentum already being

889
00:52:58.440 --> 00:53:01.559
built. So I think just kind
of coming into this matchup, which is

890
00:53:01.800 --> 00:53:05.000
going to be perfect. I think
also Jake Meyer has a little bit of

891
00:53:05.000 --> 00:53:07.360
a chip on his shoulder because I
think last time they played it was he

892
00:53:07.440 --> 00:53:09.440
was what twelve, he threw for
twelve and twenty two or something like that,

893
00:53:09.519 --> 00:53:12.880
and I know that that bothers him
and he's kind of taken on this

894
00:53:13.039 --> 00:53:16.119
bigger leadership role there as well.
So for me, it's a really it's

895
00:53:16.119 --> 00:53:20.760
a really interesting game. And actually
both I just to throw this in there

896
00:53:20.800 --> 00:53:22.239
quickly. I was looking at their
stats from last season. Both of those

897
00:53:22.280 --> 00:53:27.719
quarterbacks, they both played in twelve
games, so it's like very much similar,

898
00:53:27.840 --> 00:53:31.360
but Jake Meyer actually threw for six
hundred more yards. He also screwed

899
00:53:31.679 --> 00:53:36.239
Story scored double the amount of touchdowns. He had fourteen and Vernon had seven.

900
00:53:36.800 --> 00:53:40.199
His percentage completed completed presents rate was
like seventy four point seven or something,

901
00:53:40.239 --> 00:53:44.639
and then Vernon's was like sixty three
something. So there really is an

902
00:53:44.679 --> 00:53:47.599
interesting you know, similarities to the
teams and to those quarterbacks, but also

903
00:53:47.679 --> 00:53:51.840
there are some differences as well.
We saw a last season, but this

904
00:53:51.920 --> 00:53:54.280
season has been so many changes,
so I'm excited to see how it evolves.

905
00:53:54.320 --> 00:53:58.400
The story just evolves, you know, it's exciting. I'm good for

906
00:53:58.440 --> 00:54:00.119
this season. I think it's going
to be you know, like I said,

907
00:54:00.159 --> 00:54:02.800
settled here coming in with Nott.
Have any labor strikes anything else?

908
00:54:02.880 --> 00:54:06.719
Sarah, thank you so much,
appreciate you calling in. Go to check

909
00:54:06.760 --> 00:54:08.559
out Sarah on all her new adventures. It should be good. Thanks guys.

910
00:54:08.599 --> 00:54:13.039
Good bye, Dan, I was
we're gonna bring in here, We're

911
00:54:13.039 --> 00:54:15.119
gonna hurry up offense. I think
Farhan's calling it Dan, Ralph here,

912
00:54:15.159 --> 00:54:19.440
I mute yourself. We didn't have
to send out the all points bulletin.

913
00:54:19.800 --> 00:54:24.119
Dan, how are you doing here? Let's get you on muted too much?

914
00:54:24.440 --> 00:54:28.800
Not enough hours in a day.
My sincere, apologies, you're good.

915
00:54:28.880 --> 00:54:31.079
What are you looking forward to here? We got BC tonight, Calgary

916
00:54:31.159 --> 00:54:35.000
everything else. You know, Toronto's
off this week. What are you looking

917
00:54:35.000 --> 00:54:37.000
forward to this season? Well,
UM, a couple of things. First

918
00:54:37.039 --> 00:54:42.239
of all, I'm glad football starts. It's been a long winter here,

919
00:54:42.440 --> 00:54:46.760
especially with Canadian hockey teams bounding out
early. Um, but I just you

920
00:54:46.800 --> 00:54:51.920
know, I mean, I'm curious
to see BC looks like post Nathan Rourke,

921
00:54:52.480 --> 00:54:57.400
most Brian Burnham. And I'm also
curious to see what the stam Peters

922
00:54:57.400 --> 00:55:01.119
look like pot Levi and Mitchell.
You know, they lost a couple of

923
00:55:01.119 --> 00:55:06.679
people on defense to Eastern Division teams
in free agency, so we'll see what

924
00:55:06.719 --> 00:55:08.960
the scamps are all about. But
we're I'm also curious to find out is

925
00:55:09.000 --> 00:55:15.960
whether or not that that horrific seventeen
game losing school can Everton continues or if

926
00:55:15.320 --> 00:55:20.719
they finally get off to Schneiden and
start the season with the winning against Sat

927
00:55:22.079 --> 00:55:23.880
Jason, how much of a black
mark is that right now? For Edmonton,

928
00:55:25.199 --> 00:55:29.840
I think their season could look completely
different that they go out and win

929
00:55:29.920 --> 00:55:31.800
this first game, and they go
out and it'd say this is a brand

930
00:55:31.800 --> 00:55:36.440
new season, but if they let
it persist, they lose the couple games

931
00:55:36.480 --> 00:55:38.400
at home. Again. It's just
it seems like it could be the same

932
00:55:38.400 --> 00:55:42.639
old story. So I think it's
so crucial for them to win that first

933
00:55:42.639 --> 00:55:45.320
game, and I definitely think they
couldn't do it. They won the last

934
00:55:45.719 --> 00:55:49.920
at Saskatchewan um last year, the
last match of these two teams played,

935
00:55:50.000 --> 00:55:52.920
so I think they have a good
chance to win this one. But if

936
00:55:52.920 --> 00:55:54.480
they don't win this game, it's
going to be very concerning for them.

937
00:55:54.559 --> 00:55:58.960
I think it could be a snowball
effect once again. Yeah, why are

938
00:55:59.039 --> 00:56:02.800
they are trying to and that's playing
this week? I don't know, it's

939
00:56:02.840 --> 00:56:07.760
it seems to be a recurring theme. This happened in two nineteen and happened

940
00:56:07.800 --> 00:56:13.079
again last year. So you know
what. I think part of the deal

941
00:56:13.199 --> 00:56:19.639
is that the CFL or the MLS
gives the CFL eight playoffs, eight home

942
00:56:19.719 --> 00:56:24.239
gates to work around, and that
ninth game is always the game in Halifax

943
00:56:24.360 --> 00:56:30.480
or out East. So um.
I think sometimes the argos are constructed by

944
00:56:30.599 --> 00:56:36.440
by availabilities and hence this is what
they get. But I'll tell you I

945
00:56:36.559 --> 00:56:39.400
spoke with Ryan, didn't with you
early or late last week. But he's

946
00:56:39.440 --> 00:56:45.920
not crying. They're hurting right now
and we can use them in terms of

947
00:56:45.920 --> 00:56:49.119
injuries. Really yeah yeah, he
said, they're they're really banged up,

948
00:56:49.159 --> 00:56:52.559
and uh you know, um,
I mean they had a bunch of people

949
00:56:52.639 --> 00:56:58.639
walking around with crutches and with the
limbs last time I saw them in golf

950
00:56:58.679 --> 00:57:00.320
two weeks or a week and a
half of the so, um, they

951
00:57:00.800 --> 00:57:04.519
say they need it, and you
know, I'll take him at his word.

952
00:57:05.000 --> 00:57:07.719
I think it was Steve Melvin was
saying too that one of the Hamilton's

953
00:57:07.960 --> 00:57:12.760
recent signees injured too. Jason Snidis
said, what is this preseason? And

954
00:57:12.840 --> 00:57:16.440
where I don't understand that? I
guess that seems surprising. Well, I

955
00:57:16.440 --> 00:57:21.760
mean I think there are injuries in
training camp. I mean these guys,

956
00:57:22.079 --> 00:57:24.400
um, you know, they don't
go. It's not the two days and

957
00:57:24.519 --> 00:57:28.079
full pads that it used to be. So you you know, you have

958
00:57:28.480 --> 00:57:30.360
a padded practice here, in a
padded practice there, then you play in

959
00:57:30.400 --> 00:57:35.199
the game and then um, you
know, I still think there's something to

960
00:57:35.239 --> 00:57:38.039
be said about you're in shape,
but you're not in football shape and um,

961
00:57:38.360 --> 00:57:42.760
and that includes learning how to take
a hit and how to give a

962
00:57:42.840 --> 00:57:45.519
hit, and uh so, I
mean a lot of veterans didn't play much

963
00:57:45.559 --> 00:57:50.599
in training camp either, So you
know there's gonna be some some bumps and

964
00:57:50.639 --> 00:57:53.360
some bruises the first three four weeks
of the season. And you know,

965
00:57:53.400 --> 00:57:57.280
we're starting to see it a little
earlier right now, James, I saw

966
00:57:57.360 --> 00:57:59.559
you know you're headed with that.
How big of an injury was that for

967
00:57:59.599 --> 00:58:02.679
the tie Cats here coming in?
I think they because the thing is he

968
00:58:02.800 --> 00:58:06.519
was kind of their second guy that
they were going to use at that boundary

969
00:58:06.519 --> 00:58:09.679
receiver position, which is a pretty
crucial spot in a CFL offense. And

970
00:58:09.880 --> 00:58:14.480
I think that they really lack size
in the receiving corps. After those first

971
00:58:14.480 --> 00:58:16.840
couple of guys went down, Anthony
Johnson as the other guy I was talking

972
00:58:16.880 --> 00:58:21.920
about, and then Justin McGriff is
the guy Steve Milton was talking about who

973
00:58:21.920 --> 00:58:24.679
went down, big, tall receivers, something Hamilton doesn't have a lot of

974
00:58:24.719 --> 00:58:28.800
in the receiving corps, guys like
Tim White. Like Tim White I think

975
00:58:28.880 --> 00:58:32.119
is like six two if I'm not
mistaken, but just not huge guys in

976
00:58:32.119 --> 00:58:36.559
that receiving corps. And I think
Bow has always been a guy that likes

977
00:58:36.599 --> 00:58:39.199
those big targets. So I think
having those guys go down in twenty camps

978
00:58:39.199 --> 00:58:45.360
pretty big loss for Hamilton. Getting
your thoughts on the believe in Hamilton,

979
00:58:45.559 --> 00:58:49.039
is that your biggest most watched game
of the weekend coming up? Um?

980
00:58:49.079 --> 00:58:53.480
Not really, because they're it's gonna
be a cake walk. Well I don't

981
00:58:53.480 --> 00:58:57.400
say a cakewalk. I think it'll
be toys game. But I think there's

982
00:58:57.440 --> 00:59:00.920
something about Winnipeg at home. I
mean, this is not a slide against

983
00:59:00.920 --> 00:59:04.920
Hamilton. They do this almost to
anybody. They're tough, they're they're you

984
00:59:04.960 --> 00:59:07.440
know, they get the home crowd
support behind them. And the big thing.

985
00:59:07.800 --> 00:59:12.599
I look at that roster and there's
little to noble. There's turnover,

986
00:59:12.639 --> 00:59:15.679
but not as much turnover as you
think. So they there is a sense

987
00:59:15.679 --> 00:59:19.519
of comfort that they know each other, they know what they can do,

988
00:59:19.599 --> 00:59:22.000
they know what they're capable of.
They've been in the offense. You know,

989
00:59:22.039 --> 00:59:25.559
if you're looking at zach Collaros and
and all these guys, they've been

990
00:59:25.559 --> 00:59:29.920
in the offense now for two or
three years. They know what they can

991
00:59:29.960 --> 00:59:32.599
do, they know what needs to
be done. There's a sense of familiarity

992
00:59:34.159 --> 00:59:37.119
at a time during the early part
of the season, when teams are still

993
00:59:37.119 --> 00:59:40.679
in that feeling up process. Winnipeg's
got that familiarity and that's where I base

994
00:59:40.760 --> 00:59:45.119
that on. And I feel for
Hamilton. They start the season playing Winnipeg

995
00:59:45.400 --> 00:59:49.519
and Toronto. In Winnipeg and in
Toronto, So you know what, I

996
00:59:49.559 --> 00:59:53.000
guess, I know Bo's turning it
into the idea that they're going to see

997
00:59:53.000 --> 00:59:55.920
who, you know, who they
are early in the season, and that's

998
00:59:55.960 --> 01:00:00.719
a good way I expect him to
take that that approach, being a veteran

999
01:00:00.719 --> 01:00:04.440
and a guy who's won in both
places. So you know, it's it's

1000
01:00:04.480 --> 01:00:08.239
not an ideal situation for for the
Tiecats, but they'll they'll know who they

1001
01:00:08.239 --> 01:00:13.320
are week three for sure. In
terms of the Toronto argus here before we

1002
01:00:13.360 --> 01:00:15.840
got to bounce out with you,
what do you make of this? I

1003
01:00:15.840 --> 01:00:17.920
mean, obviously Chad Kelly kind of
right now, but we have you Bryan

1004
01:00:19.000 --> 01:00:22.840
Scott there and Evan ben Holmes didn't
play grade and there's a lot of kind

1005
01:00:22.880 --> 01:00:24.719
of that backup, a lot of
interests there. What do you make of

1006
01:00:24.800 --> 01:00:28.599
that? Back? Yeah, there's
an interest or uncertainty. I mean,

1007
01:00:29.960 --> 01:00:32.639
they're putting all the eggs and a
lot of the eggs in the in the

1008
01:00:34.280 --> 01:00:36.719
in the in the Kelly basket,
and good, you know, and good

1009
01:00:36.719 --> 01:00:38.679
on him. He looked very good
in camp the times I saw him.

1010
01:00:38.679 --> 01:00:43.079
He looked really good in the first
quarter of the exhibition game that he played.

1011
01:00:43.119 --> 01:00:45.800
That being said, it's training camp
and it's the exhibition season season.

1012
01:00:45.920 --> 01:00:49.760
So I think you're gonna you know, you're gonna see him do a lot

1013
01:00:49.840 --> 01:00:52.760
of the things that he did in
the Gray Cup game. He's gonna be

1014
01:00:52.840 --> 01:00:54.880
run. He'll run, he'll be
mobile, and I think he's gonna he's

1015
01:00:54.880 --> 01:00:58.360
going to be a leader. I
think he's a good player. I mean,

1016
01:00:58.400 --> 01:01:00.679
he showed me something in training camp, and he showed me something in

1017
01:01:00.719 --> 01:01:06.800
that exhibition game. And now whether
that translates to eighteen games over the regular

1018
01:01:06.840 --> 01:01:09.320
season, the art goes better,
hope. So because there's not much experience,

1019
01:01:09.360 --> 01:01:13.079
as you said, behind him,
I mean Ben Holmes, who in

1020
01:01:13.119 --> 01:01:15.960
my mind was the most experience of
the three, they let him go after

1021
01:01:16.639 --> 01:01:21.320
after the exhibition game. So you
know, um, hold your breath time.

1022
01:01:21.840 --> 01:01:23.880
Are you that we'll get Jason thoughts
too? Are you that surprised that

1023
01:01:23.920 --> 01:01:27.880
they've gone all in on Chad Kelly
right here and then that we will we

1024
01:01:27.880 --> 01:01:30.360
will let you. We're gonna go
Dan answer this, and then we've got

1025
01:01:30.360 --> 01:01:32.480
our call on. We'll get We'll
get Jason thoughts there any final thoughts Dan

1026
01:01:32.599 --> 01:01:35.960
on chat Kelly, and then we
got to grab our next guess. I've

1027
01:01:36.000 --> 01:01:38.360
been I've been very impressed with his
maturity. I've been very impressed with his

1028
01:01:38.440 --> 01:01:44.960
leadership ability, and I've been very
very impressed with his team first approach.

1029
01:01:45.039 --> 01:01:47.960
And I mean he came in with
a bit of an attitude, or came

1030
01:01:49.000 --> 01:01:52.840
in with a bit of a of
a reputation rather, But I'll tell you

1031
01:01:52.960 --> 01:01:55.679
I've been I've been very very impressed
with the young man in training camp,

1032
01:01:55.719 --> 01:02:00.880
and like I said, he showed
very well in the first core against Ottawa,

1033
01:02:00.199 --> 01:02:05.119
and you know, I think he's
there's reason to be optimistic in Toronto

1034
01:02:05.159 --> 01:02:07.239
if he can stay healthy. Awesome, Well, Dan, I appreciate it.

1035
01:02:07.239 --> 01:02:09.719
We got you on. I was
about to send out the ap beyond

1036
01:02:09.760 --> 01:02:13.239
you. We got Dan. I
appreciate that. Dan, thank you so

1037
01:02:13.320 --> 01:02:16.639
much with the Canadian press, gentlemen, thank you now standy by here.

1038
01:02:17.039 --> 01:02:20.519
I have been on the other side
of this a lot where I have been

1039
01:02:20.559 --> 01:02:22.360
in the field, but now I'm
back at the home studio here we have

1040
01:02:22.480 --> 01:02:28.599
livey party far on Collin and around
the stadium. How are you doing good?

1041
01:02:28.960 --> 01:02:31.280
Some good music on in the background
and getting sent for the season opener

1042
01:02:31.320 --> 01:02:35.719
here Lines and Stampshire. Most of
them are in their locker room. Actually

1043
01:02:35.719 --> 01:02:37.440
a few of them are still out
here on the field right now, but

1044
01:02:37.920 --> 01:02:40.039
looking looking to get pull warm up
started and the season kicked off. My

1045
01:02:40.119 --> 01:02:44.480
friend, what are the conditions out
there right now? We have going on?

1046
01:02:45.559 --> 01:02:50.599
But Sonny thirty celsist whatever that means
in your language. Once it's hot,

1047
01:02:50.679 --> 01:02:52.639
it's warm, I get to wear
a golf shirt. I don't have

1048
01:02:52.679 --> 01:02:55.440
to wear suits. Viewers are going
to want to know what's the footwear looking

1049
01:02:55.480 --> 01:03:00.559
like tonight? Um, let's see
on no slide most lines. But you

1050
01:03:00.599 --> 01:03:04.920
know, I'll get back to that
at some point in the season. Far

1051
01:03:05.000 --> 01:03:07.239
Hall, what are you making looking
into the season right now? Everything else

1052
01:03:07.280 --> 01:03:12.840
and lots of storylines attract Oh wow, yeah, that is a big topic.

1053
01:03:12.920 --> 01:03:15.880
You know. You had you had
Dan just on talking about the quarterback

1054
01:03:15.960 --> 01:03:19.480
situation with Chad Kelly in Toronto,
and I honestly, I think there's probably

1055
01:03:19.519 --> 01:03:22.559
eight of nine teams, everybody not
named Winnipeg that has some level of question

1056
01:03:22.960 --> 01:03:27.360
around their quarterback situation, right,
including the two teams here, you know

1057
01:03:27.400 --> 01:03:30.119
who's gonna win the spots, right, I mean, Vernon Adams is the

1058
01:03:30.199 --> 01:03:34.280
established starter in DC. Jake Mayer's
got that role in Calgary. Certainly,

1059
01:03:34.320 --> 01:03:37.599
BC's got the best quarterback room because
Dan Evans being there is the backup that

1060
01:03:37.679 --> 01:03:40.599
they can turn to if it doesn't
go well. For Calgary, it's it's

1061
01:03:40.719 --> 01:03:44.639
Jake or or nobody. That's just
the way it's going to be. But

1062
01:03:45.079 --> 01:03:47.599
you know, if you look all
the way around, there's still some level

1063
01:03:47.639 --> 01:03:51.800
of question that needs to be answered. I taught today on Sports Center.

1064
01:03:51.840 --> 01:03:55.159
Naylor and I had a debate about
the top five quarterbacks in the league today,

1065
01:03:55.719 --> 01:03:59.480
and I said, look, that's
not the question the top The question

1066
01:03:59.599 --> 01:04:02.719
is who are the two Who are
the five quarterbacks that have the best opportunity

1067
01:04:02.760 --> 01:04:09.480
to succude based both on talent but
also situation, right and what's around them?

1068
01:04:09.599 --> 01:04:13.239
And I think those might be two
different answers. Trevor Harris, if

1069
01:04:13.239 --> 01:04:15.559
you just ask me who the best
quarterbacks are, I put Harrison in my

1070
01:04:15.599 --> 01:04:17.679
top three. But if you ask
me who's gonna the best situation to succeed,

1071
01:04:17.679 --> 01:04:21.119
I don't have Harrison my top five, so you know, I want

1072
01:04:21.159 --> 01:04:25.320
to see how some of these guys
performed. Jason, what do you got

1073
01:04:25.360 --> 01:04:28.480
for a far Hunt? Any questions
for the man? Well this is kind

1074
01:04:28.519 --> 01:04:32.000
of book not football related, but
I think you know here in Hamilton we've

1075
01:04:32.119 --> 01:04:35.559
kind of been dealing the last couple
of days with you poor air quality issues.

1076
01:04:35.719 --> 01:04:41.480
How are the skies looking around in
Calgary today? Well, look,

1077
01:04:41.519 --> 01:04:45.519
you never want to make light of
air quality issues because forest fires are a

1078
01:04:45.559 --> 01:04:48.840
serious thing. But you know,
this is just like a regular Thursday in

1079
01:04:48.920 --> 01:04:53.840
Vancouver right when you talking about our
quality issues because every summer we've now gotten

1080
01:04:53.840 --> 01:04:57.840
into forests fire season, which begins
in May and continues right through September and

1081
01:04:57.880 --> 01:05:00.719
October. So it's interesting to me
that your guys are finally dealing with it

1082
01:05:00.760 --> 01:05:06.119
in southern Ontario, but the skies
here are absolutely clear air quality is not

1083
01:05:06.199 --> 01:05:11.679
an issue. And yeah, I
don't expect that anything to delay this starts.

1084
01:05:12.400 --> 01:05:15.119
How far han am I? Do
I have right to be worried about

1085
01:05:15.119 --> 01:05:16.800
my boy Vernon Adams this year?
What do you make a Vernon going the

1086
01:05:16.880 --> 01:05:20.079
end of the season worried? Why? What worries? You just worried that

1087
01:05:20.639 --> 01:05:24.719
you know, he tried to maybe
a little too hard turn the ball over

1088
01:05:24.800 --> 01:05:27.320
a little bit, you know,
just I want you know this is my

1089
01:05:27.360 --> 01:05:30.360
our team, I mean this America's
team. Well, first of all,

1090
01:05:30.719 --> 01:05:32.920
if you think it turns the ball
over a lot, you got to look

1091
01:05:32.960 --> 01:05:36.440
at the PFF stats. He actually
had the least number of turnover worth he

1092
01:05:36.440 --> 01:05:41.039
plays in the league amongst starting quarterbacks
last year. And he takes the most

1093
01:05:41.039 --> 01:05:44.000
beat shots, so he knows how
to protect the football to be to be

1094
01:05:44.039 --> 01:05:46.800
honest with you, and I had
Vernon on my list and quarterbacks as number

1095
01:05:46.840 --> 01:05:51.800
two behind Zach Collaros, because he's
in a great position to succeed. You

1096
01:05:51.840 --> 01:05:55.079
know, we know how good he
looked against Calgary in the preseason game,

1097
01:05:55.119 --> 01:05:58.480
and you can only put so much
stock into that given how many guys Calgary

1098
01:05:58.519 --> 01:06:01.400
left home on the defensive side of
the ball. But I think Burnham's in

1099
01:06:01.400 --> 01:06:06.159
in a great spot to do well
this year. He's been completely focused,

1100
01:06:06.519 --> 01:06:11.559
completely dialed in. He understands the
offense now that in ways that he didn't

1101
01:06:11.599 --> 01:06:15.920
before. And Jordan mckimmick understands him
in ways that he did him before.

1102
01:06:15.199 --> 01:06:18.840
And you've also got a receiving for
who loved nath the Worth last year,

1103
01:06:18.880 --> 01:06:23.800
and they're fully invested in Vernon out
and they want to play for him because

1104
01:06:23.800 --> 01:06:27.440
he's an exceptional teammate. You know, he's not the hot dog that his

1105
01:06:27.800 --> 01:06:31.280
playing style would imply. He really
cares about his teammates and they want to

1106
01:06:31.280 --> 01:06:36.239
perform for him. So I think
he's in a great position to do well.

1107
01:06:36.280 --> 01:06:41.400
And I think we'll get a twenty
nineteen version of Vernon Adams when he

1108
01:06:41.440 --> 01:06:44.800
was the East Aalster quarterback. A
couple here, well quick, I'll let

1109
01:06:44.800 --> 01:06:46.079
you go. I know you have
a hate here coming up. Nailors have

1110
01:06:46.119 --> 01:06:49.480
a trouble logging in the more trouble
here doing this remote than it isn't like

1111
01:06:49.480 --> 01:06:51.639
you got all you You know,
when I when I'm on the when I'm

1112
01:06:51.639 --> 01:06:58.400
on the road and I've got the
worst conditions, I have better connections to

1113
01:06:58.519 --> 01:07:02.119
get on the air then Nailer when
he's at home with a properly professionally installed

1114
01:07:02.159 --> 01:07:06.239
home studio. We're always waiting for
Naylor and the signal. It's crazy.

1115
01:07:06.840 --> 01:07:11.519
Wait this PFF thing this week with
the CFL, the announcement they're going to

1116
01:07:11.559 --> 01:07:15.000
be working. Does that is that
a big deal. Yeah, I think

1117
01:07:15.039 --> 01:07:17.199
so. I mean, I think
we've all gotten really accustomed to the quality

1118
01:07:17.239 --> 01:07:21.679
of data the PFF provides, and
you know, certainly on the betting side,

1119
01:07:23.320 --> 01:07:27.280
both in college football and in the
NFL, PFF has become the bible.

1120
01:07:27.400 --> 01:07:30.440
So I really believe having the CFL
involved with that, I think is

1121
01:07:30.440 --> 01:07:32.639
a great thing. And hopefully people
substrate to the service because I want,

1122
01:07:33.159 --> 01:07:38.800
I want to give our viewers more
credit then sometimes we give them. I

1123
01:07:38.840 --> 01:07:44.639
think we get comfortable offering generic commentary, not diving into the analytics as deeply

1124
01:07:44.679 --> 01:07:47.320
as we should. I want to. I want to give our audience more

1125
01:07:47.440 --> 01:07:53.280
credit and you know, and I
hope they consume that information because it just

1126
01:07:53.639 --> 01:07:56.559
makes the league that much better.
Well it isn't, Yeah, because I

1127
01:07:56.800 --> 01:08:00.760
got some of the PFF guys say, you know, come on before or

1128
01:08:00.880 --> 01:08:02.559
USFL, and they said, well, we don't have as much time,

1129
01:08:02.679 --> 01:08:05.000
you know, this year we're kind
of doing the articles. We don't have

1130
01:08:05.039 --> 01:08:09.559
as much time to deep dive.
So it's interesting that is the CFL has

1131
01:08:09.599 --> 01:08:14.760
at least kind of gotten above that
threshold. I guess they have. Yeah,

1132
01:08:14.760 --> 01:08:15.439
no, no, there's no doubt. It's good. And you know,

1133
01:08:15.479 --> 01:08:19.840
I know that there's been some growing
pains with the Genius Stats package through

1134
01:08:19.840 --> 01:08:24.000
the preseason that I know is going
to get resolved here sooner than later.

1135
01:08:24.000 --> 01:08:27.640
And once that gets resolved and you
coupled with what PFF can do, I

1136
01:08:27.720 --> 01:08:31.960
just think it gives fans so much
more in terms of access to players,

1137
01:08:32.039 --> 01:08:36.039
what they what they're actually able to
do, and just resources to get to

1138
01:08:36.159 --> 01:08:41.359
know those guys that much better.
It helps CFL fantasy, it helps all

1139
01:08:41.399 --> 01:08:44.720
of it. So it's a real
win and people understand the brand of PF

1140
01:08:44.760 --> 01:08:47.199
if you're an NFL fan, to
now be able to access to CFL information

1141
01:08:47.239 --> 01:08:51.039
just as readily on the same platform
as a great deal. Well far Haunt

1142
01:08:51.119 --> 01:08:54.800
anything else for me, I'll let
you go. We'll stop down here before

1143
01:08:54.880 --> 01:08:57.079
Naylor comes. I I don't want
to hold you anything else from me before

1144
01:08:57.079 --> 01:08:59.960
you gotta get out. No,
it's just it's gonna be a fun season.

1145
01:09:00.000 --> 01:09:01.920
It's a great night and I can't
wait for this first weekend to get

1146
01:09:01.960 --> 01:09:05.399
going, and it's the earliest start
date for a CFL regular season, and

1147
01:09:05.680 --> 01:09:09.159
I think it's gonna be a great
year. Awesome. Well, far Hot,

1148
01:09:09.159 --> 01:09:11.520
We'll get you on proper in this
season. I appreciate your time,

1149
01:09:12.159 --> 01:09:14.920
no problem. Next time Dorothy has
to ask, because she's my favorite of

1150
01:09:14.960 --> 01:09:16.600
you. I know she's walking around
here somewhere. I don't know, she's

1151
01:09:16.640 --> 01:09:18.760
walking the dog or something. So
we'll get there, all right, do

1152
01:09:18.800 --> 01:09:24.960
you love talk to you buddy?
Well, Jason here, we'll let Naylor's

1153
01:09:25.000 --> 01:09:28.760
trying to log on. We'll stop
down here for just a quick second.

1154
01:09:27.920 --> 01:09:30.239
How a lot of your far Hans
got full rather playing on the background,

1155
01:09:30.439 --> 01:09:32.960
Dan, Ralph everything else? How
are we doing here? How have you

1156
01:09:32.960 --> 01:09:38.199
made the show so far? Sorry? Zara, what's the question? I

1157
01:09:38.239 --> 01:09:40.039
said? What do you? What
have you made the show so far?

1158
01:09:40.079 --> 01:09:43.560
How are we surviving here? I
think we're doing great, like considering I've

1159
01:09:43.560 --> 01:09:45.199
got a lot of moving parts here, a lot of guests, but a

1160
01:09:45.199 --> 01:09:47.640
lot of great guests, and uh, you know, I think this has

1161
01:09:47.640 --> 01:09:51.520
been a great show so far.
Yeah. People always wonder why why do

1162
01:09:51.560 --> 01:09:55.000
you prerecord these all the time to
the week, But we're here, We

1163
01:09:55.079 --> 01:09:58.560
have Naylor getting ready to hop on. We also have Marty York coming on

1164
01:09:58.640 --> 01:10:00.800
as well here and near the of
the hour before we get into it,

1165
01:10:00.840 --> 01:10:04.000
and we'll probably log off here a
little bit before I know the Professor Andrew

1166
01:10:04.039 --> 01:10:09.960
Murray stopping by as well. The
wildfire smoke interesting, I did see a

1167
01:10:09.960 --> 01:10:12.760
lot of that, especially in New
York. Doesn't seem to be concerned in

1168
01:10:12.800 --> 01:10:15.720
Calgary. That's kind of feel good, right, Jason, Yeah, for

1169
01:10:15.800 --> 01:10:19.079
sure. It's great to have a
clear Skuys for kickoff in the first game

1170
01:10:19.119 --> 01:10:24.079
of the season. Obviously, I'm
interested to see if that affects the month

1171
01:10:24.119 --> 01:10:28.760
for y'all game on Saturday night,
so you know, something the monitor going

1172
01:10:28.800 --> 01:10:31.720
forward. But as far On said, it's something that they're used to unfortunately

1173
01:10:31.720 --> 01:10:35.079
in the West, and it's good
to see that there's clear Skuys for tonight.

1174
01:10:36.000 --> 01:10:41.159
Interesting. Yeah, I saw Tim
Kapper posting that it seems like Montreal

1175
01:10:41.239 --> 01:10:45.399
is selling really well for that twenty
thousand plus trending for that. What do

1176
01:10:45.399 --> 01:10:48.359
you make of the Montreal fan base
here? It feels like they've been through

1177
01:10:48.399 --> 01:10:50.880
a lot here in the last couple
of years, and the ownership and kind

1178
01:10:50.920 --> 01:10:55.560
of everything else the Gary Stearns overall, what's your read on the Montreal fan

1179
01:10:55.600 --> 01:11:00.199
base. I think it's hard to
judge because I think a lot of time

1180
01:11:00.239 --> 01:11:03.079
in the CFL, most of the
you know, most teams are not like

1181
01:11:03.119 --> 01:11:08.520
say Saskatchewan, even the Saskatchewan's having
some decline in attendance. But I think

1182
01:11:09.000 --> 01:11:14.600
most teams are reliant upon having some
sort of recent success to you know,

1183
01:11:14.640 --> 01:11:17.359
get the fan base back into it
and have interest in the team. And

1184
01:11:17.399 --> 01:11:21.560
I think Montreal it's been a long
time. They have the second longest Great

1185
01:11:21.560 --> 01:11:26.279
cupp Route behind Hamilton, who has
by far the longest Great Cup Route,

1186
01:11:26.359 --> 01:11:29.039
and I think that plays into it. I think when I was growing up,

1187
01:11:29.760 --> 01:11:33.079
the Montreal Wettes were the premier franchise
in the CFL at Anthony Calvio,

1188
01:11:33.800 --> 01:11:38.640
so they were just a very proud
franchise and they just have not reached that

1189
01:11:38.760 --> 01:11:42.520
level ever since Calvio retired. And
I think that they were getting there a

1190
01:11:42.520 --> 01:11:45.479
little bit with Vernon Adams back in
twenty nineteen, but then obviously COVID happened

1191
01:11:45.520 --> 01:11:49.520
in canceled twenty twenty season, So
imagine what would have happened if they played

1192
01:11:49.560 --> 01:11:54.680
in twenty twenty. Maybe they could
have continued that positive momentum. But I

1193
01:11:54.720 --> 01:11:59.119
mean the ownership changes, morale's got
to be pretty low, I think around

1194
01:11:59.720 --> 01:12:01.880
the what's but I mean a new
owner has um, you know, deep

1195
01:12:01.920 --> 01:12:05.520
pockets, and I think that a
big problem with them as well as the

1196
01:12:05.600 --> 01:12:10.960
stadium issue. I think that they
really need to have their own stadium and

1197
01:12:11.000 --> 01:12:14.640
not share the facility with mcguel.
I think there's some benefits to having that

1198
01:12:14.880 --> 01:12:18.399
right downtown in Montreal, just kind
of great scenery around the stadium, But

1199
01:12:18.640 --> 01:12:20.960
at the end of the day,
I think it's better. They're better off

1200
01:12:21.000 --> 01:12:26.880
getting their own stadium if that's a
feasibility feasible option in the future, and

1201
01:12:26.960 --> 01:12:30.239
maybe with this deep pocketed owner it
could happen. Yeah, I mean it

1202
01:12:30.279 --> 01:12:32.359
looks awesome. Man, I've obviously
never been the mont trouble watching it TV,

1203
01:12:32.479 --> 01:12:35.680
it looks great. W Jones has
Lions like to sell out their first

1204
01:12:35.720 --> 01:12:39.319
home game, like there, you
know, they always open the upper deck.

1205
01:12:39.560 --> 01:12:42.840
It never quite sells out right,
And even last year with one Republic

1206
01:12:43.119 --> 01:12:46.000
there's LLL cool J. What is
his? Like? I know LLL you

1207
01:12:46.039 --> 01:12:49.800
know, like being American, but
like, as a Canadian living in Hamilton,

1208
01:12:49.880 --> 01:12:55.359
does LLL cool JA have any kind
of semblance of effect on you?

1209
01:12:55.520 --> 01:12:59.880
In June of twenty twenty three,
I'm not really the person to ask about

1210
01:13:00.039 --> 01:13:02.159
wrapped to be honest. I mean
I listen to some of it, but

1211
01:13:02.520 --> 01:13:06.000
I'm not really too familiar. I'm
sure I've heard a song or two of

1212
01:13:06.039 --> 01:13:09.960
his, but I think that,
you know, it's good that they are

1213
01:13:10.159 --> 01:13:13.520
delving into more of the hip hop
genre. I think that um, you

1214
01:13:13.560 --> 01:13:17.399
know, just the country element to
what they've used to promote CFL games over

1215
01:13:17.439 --> 01:13:19.640
the past couple of years. It's
kind of gotten a little stale, so

1216
01:13:19.640 --> 01:13:23.399
it's good that they're, um,
some of these teams are bringing in other

1217
01:13:23.479 --> 01:13:28.640
acts and more popular acts and well
known acts. Obviously, One Republic last

1218
01:13:28.680 --> 01:13:31.039
year was huge, So I think
that it's good that the CFL teams are

1219
01:13:31.079 --> 01:13:34.960
doing this. Our Lady Peace coming
to the Montreal home opener as well,

1220
01:13:35.000 --> 01:13:40.119
So I think it's good that they're
you know, experimenting with bringing in these

1221
01:13:40.720 --> 01:13:44.079
these concerts to the home openers.
Um. But at the end of the

1222
01:13:44.159 --> 01:13:46.520
day, I don't think that's going
to be enough alone to you know,

1223
01:13:46.600 --> 01:13:49.920
propel momentum. But it does get
the fans out to that Week one and

1224
01:13:49.960 --> 01:13:55.560
you get a you know, a
good attendance for the Week one games doing

1225
01:13:55.600 --> 01:13:58.800
that. I just I'm curious,
like, what what's the threshold there,

1226
01:13:58.840 --> 01:14:01.279
Like, how do we just had
like One Republic like ever listens to the

1227
01:14:01.279 --> 01:14:03.960
Republic, Like even I thought the
Great Cup was it two years ago with

1228
01:14:04.079 --> 01:14:08.800
like the Lumineers and all that,
like like everyone kind of like everyone kind

1229
01:14:08.840 --> 01:14:11.039
of knows it's not country. Everyone
kind of knows that. I just I

1230
01:14:11.039 --> 01:14:15.039
don't know what residents LL cool Jay
has and especially like Vancouver, I don't

1231
01:14:15.079 --> 01:14:19.399
know. I it's not it's not
like we're getting Whiz Khalifa or some young

1232
01:14:19.640 --> 01:14:23.359
young rapper here. I mean,
it just feels like it's you're already kind

1233
01:14:23.359 --> 01:14:25.720
of data that that way, and
then with the rap it does feel a

1234
01:14:25.720 --> 01:14:30.239
little odd. Yeah, I guess
only time will tell and we'll see how

1235
01:14:30.239 --> 01:14:31.960
many people show up for that game, because I mean, if they have

1236
01:14:32.479 --> 01:14:36.000
similar tenants to what they had last
year, I think that you can consider

1237
01:14:36.000 --> 01:14:39.880
that a success. And you know, I think that's a good thing for

1238
01:14:39.920 --> 01:14:43.239
the Lions. Oh, I think
we finally have our next guest on here.

1239
01:14:44.399 --> 01:14:47.079
We've been scheduling and balancing everything else
today. But the first question I

1240
01:14:47.119 --> 01:14:49.560
want to ask that data the other
first time, how are you what do

1241
01:14:49.600 --> 01:14:55.520
you make of LLL cool Jay as
the big long rumored BC Lions. But

1242
01:14:55.560 --> 01:14:59.239
you didn't think I was going to
ask you that. Uh, you know,

1243
01:14:59.279 --> 01:15:04.119
I've often have been made to look
silly on air answering questions about music,

1244
01:15:04.239 --> 01:15:08.560
especially you know, cool music.
I remember I was doing some of

1245
01:15:08.640 --> 01:15:12.560
the super Bowl with Jay on Right
Show, and it was like, hey,

1246
01:15:13.000 --> 01:15:15.720
before I let you go, what's
your favorite Rihanna's song? Unfortunately,

1247
01:15:15.720 --> 01:15:18.760
his producer got in my ear and
warned me that one was coming, because

1248
01:15:18.760 --> 01:15:23.479
otherwise it would have been like a
pretty bad moment of dead air on TSN.

1249
01:15:23.880 --> 01:15:27.520
So anyways, just warning you that's
not my area of expertise. LL

1250
01:15:27.720 --> 01:15:30.000
cool J like how current is he? Because he, like I know,

1251
01:15:30.039 --> 01:15:32.800
he's a guy who goes back a
bit right, But like, is he

1252
01:15:33.079 --> 01:15:38.239
is he still still considered cool?
Or is this I don't know. I

1253
01:15:38.279 --> 01:15:42.960
hadn't put any fad in LL cool
J in probably fifteen years. Yeah,

1254
01:15:43.000 --> 01:15:45.279
it's been a while, that's my
sense, even as an outsider, you

1255
01:15:45.319 --> 01:15:48.720
know, you know, on the
on the cool stuff. I think I

1256
01:15:48.720 --> 01:15:51.600
think I know five figure death Punch. I think they sampled part of his

1257
01:15:51.720 --> 01:15:55.479
lyrics in one of their songs.
I think that was probably the most residence

1258
01:15:55.520 --> 01:15:57.760
I have as a five figure death
punch. Dave, what do you make

1259
01:15:57.800 --> 01:16:00.640
of this CFL Week one? I
mean, obviously we'll try to get you

1260
01:16:00.640 --> 01:16:02.640
on here for a proper interview.
But what are we making heading into the

1261
01:16:02.680 --> 01:16:09.319
season? Well, I wrote about
on TSN dot c A today just about

1262
01:16:09.359 --> 01:16:13.720
how it's a quarterback class the likes
of which I don't know if I've ever

1263
01:16:13.760 --> 01:16:18.760
seen in the league before. If
you were to put stat lines from last

1264
01:16:18.840 --> 01:16:21.600
year in front of each of these
guys and said would you take that one

1265
01:16:21.600 --> 01:16:26.439
again? And the only guys that
would probably say yes would be you know,

1266
01:16:26.840 --> 01:16:30.439
Trevor Harris and Zach Colaris. The
other seven would say no, I

1267
01:16:30.520 --> 01:16:31.760
need better than that. And on
some of it, it's not just performance,

1268
01:16:31.800 --> 01:16:34.720
it's sample size, right, Like
Jake Mayer didn't play a full season,

1269
01:16:35.920 --> 01:16:40.199
and you know there's a look,
there's a lot of potential among this

1270
01:16:40.279 --> 01:16:44.479
group. You look at Jake Meyer's
going into year number three, usually the

1271
01:16:44.520 --> 01:16:46.319
time that a CFL quarterback makes a
big advance, and he was a quick

1272
01:16:46.359 --> 01:16:50.079
study in years one and two.
Then you look at Taylor Cornelius, much

1273
01:16:50.079 --> 01:16:54.840
more refined in year number two.
He's going into year number three. Chad

1274
01:16:54.960 --> 01:16:58.000
Kelly, you know, is going
to have an offense in his hands for

1275
01:16:58.119 --> 01:17:00.880
a season for the first time since
he was a year at Old Miss,

1276
01:17:00.439 --> 01:17:02.319
and you know, we got a
little taste of what he could do,

1277
01:17:02.359 --> 01:17:04.760
but he walked into camp this year
as the guy didn't have to win the

1278
01:17:04.840 --> 01:17:09.920
job. He could just find two
and you know, bo Levi Mitchell,

1279
01:17:09.960 --> 01:17:13.680
the bounce back of bow Levi Mitchell
the world anticipating. So you go around

1280
01:17:13.720 --> 01:17:17.439
this group, there's questions around every
single one of him, even out through

1281
01:17:17.520 --> 01:17:20.439
Trevor Harrison. There he's thirty seven
and he was a backup at this time

1282
01:17:20.479 --> 01:17:25.439
a year ago. That that gets
a question marks, right, So other

1283
01:17:25.479 --> 01:17:30.399
than Zach Collaros and there's every other
quarterback in the league has a big question

1284
01:17:30.439 --> 01:17:33.439
mark. Now, that doesn't mean
at the end of the year we couldn't

1285
01:17:33.920 --> 01:17:36.920
be saying this was one of the
great quarterback years we've seen in the last

1286
01:17:36.920 --> 01:17:42.000
decade because Vernon Adams put it all
together in BC, you know, and

1287
01:17:43.399 --> 01:17:46.760
Jeremiah Mazzoli came back in week three, in Week four and you know,

1288
01:17:46.840 --> 01:17:50.239
had a great season. But we
know the nature of football, they're not

1289
01:17:50.279 --> 01:17:54.600
all going to great seasons. But
I do think there's lots of potential in

1290
01:17:54.600 --> 01:17:59.960
this quarterback class. And frankly,
the CFL needs these guys to hit because

1291
01:18:00.600 --> 01:18:02.840
you know, the competition for the
next wave is a lot tougher than it

1292
01:18:02.920 --> 01:18:06.359
used to be. You could even
see it reflected in CFL training camps this

1293
01:18:06.439 --> 01:18:11.960
year, the number of guys from
smaller schools and from smaller conferences. You

1294
01:18:12.000 --> 01:18:15.800
know, we're not We're seeing less
of the you know USC's and Notre Dames

1295
01:18:15.800 --> 01:18:18.399
and more of the you know,
Butlers and Tosen's and things like that.

1296
01:18:18.479 --> 01:18:20.880
And you know, I think that's
just the reality of the modern league.

1297
01:18:21.920 --> 01:18:26.399
I just yeah, Trevor Harris is
a month in two days older than me,

1298
01:18:26.479 --> 01:18:30.239
and that is the saying that that
that makes I want to get Jason

1299
01:18:30.520 --> 01:18:32.920
just so he doesn't sit here in
silence the whole time. And then we'll

1300
01:18:32.960 --> 01:18:35.920
go back to Dave here. I
wanted to get your thoughts that, you

1301
01:18:35.920 --> 01:18:40.640
know, bo LEVI just a whole
at Hamilton like it's all our bus.

1302
01:18:40.720 --> 01:18:44.119
I mean you were talking their Great
Cup kind of you know drought here it

1303
01:18:44.159 --> 01:18:45.359
feels like all our bus. What
do you make of that? Then obviously

1304
01:18:45.399 --> 01:18:49.800
we'll get Dave's thoughts. Yeah,
absolutely, I think this team has been

1305
01:18:49.920 --> 01:18:54.800
in um, you know, Great
Cup or bus mode the past several years.

1306
01:18:54.840 --> 01:18:58.560
Obviously, this Great Cup route has
just gone on and on and on.

1307
01:18:58.640 --> 01:19:02.000
They've come so close, four great
Cup losses in the last what was

1308
01:19:02.039 --> 01:19:05.960
it ten twelve years or something like
that, so they've come up close.

1309
01:19:06.479 --> 01:19:11.039
They just cannot finish it off.
And I think that that has been the

1310
01:19:11.079 --> 01:19:15.319
powering thing behind this off season for
the tired Cats, bringing in so many

1311
01:19:15.319 --> 01:19:18.159
other players, obviously Bow being the
biggest edition, but I think Bow also

1312
01:19:18.199 --> 01:19:23.399
helped them bring in other players like
Jamir Thurman, bring Jahart Davis back,

1313
01:19:23.439 --> 01:19:27.560
who people forgot that he played with
in Calgary, So I think that will

1314
01:19:27.600 --> 01:19:30.359
help. I think they have some
experienced guys that um could help them get

1315
01:19:30.359 --> 01:19:33.279
over the hump. But we'll have
to see if they do it, you

1316
01:19:33.319 --> 01:19:36.279
know, Dave, Yeah, is
this I mean it feels like this is

1317
01:19:36.319 --> 01:19:40.439
the Aaron Rodgers equivalent with the Jets, right with bo Levi and all of

1318
01:19:40.439 --> 01:19:42.560
this year. I mean, what
do you make of this whole storyline?

1319
01:19:44.359 --> 01:19:46.159
Well, and I think there's it
does kind of reflect of that, and

1320
01:19:46.159 --> 01:19:49.520
it also reflects a little bit of
what happened with Henry Burke's you know,

1321
01:19:49.560 --> 01:19:56.199
when he got pushed up the Calgary
and you know it wasn't good about it,

1322
01:19:56.279 --> 01:19:58.159
the same way that you know,
Bo isn't good about it. I

1323
01:19:58.159 --> 01:20:00.159
don't think Bow wants to make this
season about Calgary, right, I think

1324
01:20:00.159 --> 01:20:04.680
he's about planting his legacy on another
side of the country and having a second

1325
01:20:04.760 --> 01:20:09.000
run in his career. You know, that's what this is about. I

1326
01:20:09.039 --> 01:20:11.079
think. I don't think you're gonna
hear a lot of Calgary talk. But

1327
01:20:11.760 --> 01:20:14.119
no question, you know, given
what he meant to that city, that

1328
01:20:14.279 --> 01:20:16.960
organization to have your job taken away, you know, I know, I

1329
01:20:17.000 --> 01:20:19.600
know Henry Burrus. It's stuck with
him for a long time, and I'm

1330
01:20:19.640 --> 01:20:25.119
sure it does for Bow. And
you know, it was funny because when

1331
01:20:25.119 --> 01:20:28.079
that trade happened, you know that
he said, I'm going to free agency

1332
01:20:28.239 --> 01:20:31.119
and I look, I didn't have
any sources that told me that he was

1333
01:20:31.159 --> 01:20:35.199
going to Hamiltons for sure. But
water runs downhill, right, guys.

1334
01:20:36.239 --> 01:20:42.439
The Hamilton Tiger Cats with the longest
Great Cup drought in the CFL, hosting

1335
01:20:42.479 --> 01:20:45.680
the game for the second time in
three years after losing it in overtime two

1336
01:20:45.720 --> 01:20:48.760
years ago, with Scott Mitchell as
their president. If you know anything but

1337
01:20:48.920 --> 01:20:54.800
his nature, there's just no chance
he makes a trade and he as he

1338
01:20:54.880 --> 01:20:57.840
and the organization because that's when I
say he makes the trade. Of course

1339
01:20:57.840 --> 01:21:00.439
they have a front office, but
a trade of that magnitude is going to

1340
01:21:00.479 --> 01:21:04.359
involve the President's you know, signature. There's just no way they make that

1341
01:21:04.439 --> 01:21:09.960
trade. And then walking watching Watkatter
free agent, it's zero chance that was

1342
01:21:09.960 --> 01:21:13.039
ever going to happen. And look, I think I think he's a good

1343
01:21:13.039 --> 01:21:15.920
fit there. I it's a it's
a good football town. You know,

1344
01:21:15.039 --> 01:21:18.279
they sometimes the East doesn't get the
respect that it does, but in Hamilton

1345
01:21:18.359 --> 01:21:23.399
maybe kind of gets overlooked because of
just being in the sort of considered part

1346
01:21:23.439 --> 01:21:26.920
of the larger GTA. But that's
a good football town. And I think

1347
01:21:26.960 --> 01:21:30.199
they're really gonna cherish having believe I
mention, I'm interested to see that.

1348
01:21:30.319 --> 01:21:32.680
You know, they've the receiving corps
they turned. When I'm to training camp,

1349
01:21:32.680 --> 01:21:36.800
it was struck me the number of
good American receivers they had. Guys

1350
01:21:36.800 --> 01:21:40.399
have just jumped out to me in
practice, and you know a couple of

1351
01:21:40.399 --> 01:21:45.239
them have made the roster. Terry
Goodwin, I guess former Georgia guy had

1352
01:21:45.279 --> 01:21:47.880
eighteen hundred yards receiving at Georgia was
a seventh round pick. I believe with

1353
01:21:47.960 --> 01:21:53.800
Carolina there's another one as well.
Name escapes to me right now, who's

1354
01:21:53.800 --> 01:21:59.600
the Sunbell player of the year at
Arkansas State had seventeen touchdowns in twenty nineteen.

1355
01:21:59.640 --> 01:22:01.840
And you know every year, you
know, I say every year there's

1356
01:22:01.840 --> 01:22:04.720
a Dalton show, there actually is
an Adulton show and who leads the league

1357
01:22:04.720 --> 01:22:08.479
and receiving you know, how to
training camp. We never played the CFL,

1358
01:22:08.840 --> 01:22:13.319
but the nature of this league is
there are always guys that we couldn't

1359
01:22:13.319 --> 01:22:15.520
have a conversation about right now,
but in six weeks from now we sure

1360
01:22:15.560 --> 01:22:18.720
could, all right. And and
that's I think with Hamilton's County on a

1361
01:22:18.720 --> 01:22:24.439
couple of those receiver spots. In
terms of this roster stuff, we went

1362
01:22:24.479 --> 01:22:27.000
on a lot with Darrel at the
beginning of the show. But this whole

1363
01:22:27.039 --> 01:22:30.800
of the snaps and now we're doing
the Howmber remember snaps? And we're doing

1364
01:22:30.840 --> 01:22:32.720
long division here to figure out how
long? To me, you know,

1365
01:22:33.000 --> 01:22:36.840
we've always had this like the depth
charts and the injury reports and now we

1366
01:22:36.840 --> 01:22:41.520
want to gamble and we wanted to
XFL and USFL can't always get their minds

1367
01:22:41.520 --> 01:22:45.920
around that either. What do you
make of all this the ratio stuff though

1368
01:22:45.960 --> 01:22:48.199
the roster stuff. Yeah, it
was funny because I did an insider hit

1369
01:22:48.199 --> 01:22:54.399
on this during our draft show and
I don't remember thinking, I'm not sure

1370
01:22:54.439 --> 01:22:57.960
anybody knows what I'm talking about,
but they will about a month and a

1371
01:22:58.000 --> 01:23:03.079
half and sure off and look,
look here's the thing. One of the

1372
01:23:03.119 --> 01:23:09.159
things the CFL is challenged by is
bringing its game and its product to people

1373
01:23:09.319 --> 01:23:13.560
that are maybe more just more familiar
with the four down football with the NFL,

1374
01:23:13.600 --> 01:23:17.439
primarily NFL football, and trying to
get them to buy in. And

1375
01:23:17.479 --> 01:23:21.239
I'm not talking just about Americans.
I'm talking about Canadians too, because they

1376
01:23:21.279 --> 01:23:24.880
are Canadians who grew up as if
they might have, you know, their

1377
01:23:24.920 --> 01:23:27.600
associations football. They could have been
raised in Alabama. You know, they

1378
01:23:27.640 --> 01:23:30.079
watch the NFL American college football,
and they don't watch the Canadian game.

1379
01:23:30.560 --> 01:23:34.920
And those are a real challenge for
the league to get through too. I

1380
01:23:34.960 --> 01:23:41.359
think the more things that differentiate your
game in a not positive way, the

1381
01:23:41.479 --> 01:23:45.119
more that becomes a hurdle to new
fans. And when you have rules okay

1382
01:23:45.439 --> 01:23:51.359
that people don't understand and have trouble
processing, they feel like kind of outsiders

1383
01:23:51.359 --> 01:23:55.920
in your sport. That's what my
concern is. I understand the objective of

1384
01:23:55.920 --> 01:23:59.439
this rule, but I don't like
what it does to sort of the fans

1385
01:24:00.039 --> 01:24:03.000
in the It's incomprehensible. I can
already feel the first time far Hut and

1386
01:24:03.000 --> 01:24:08.560
alogy and I start talking about you
know, veteran American and Nationalized American and

1387
01:24:08.640 --> 01:24:12.960
twenty three snaps and designated can people
are like, we might as well get

1388
01:24:12.960 --> 01:24:15.039
on ever read the phone boom,
right, because we're gonna get the same

1389
01:24:15.079 --> 01:24:17.600
level of engagement and people. So
I don't like that aspect of it.

1390
01:24:17.720 --> 01:24:21.880
And I think that's that's already the
ratio is challenging enough, right, Well,

1391
01:24:21.920 --> 01:24:26.039
you can't play whoever you want whatever, no you got like even that's

1392
01:24:26.079 --> 01:24:29.279
a bit of a stopper for some
people. So when you kind of up

1393
01:24:29.319 --> 01:24:32.560
the anti on this um, you
know I don't. And then you have

1394
01:24:32.640 --> 01:24:35.079
the optics where teams are already taken
advantable, well not take an advantage,

1395
01:24:35.119 --> 01:24:39.159
right. They're used it the way
we knew they'd used it, listing starters

1396
01:24:39.159 --> 01:24:43.640
on the depth, charters backups for
one play, and it just kind of

1397
01:24:44.159 --> 01:24:47.399
I think it can get in the
way with people becoming fans of our game.

1398
01:24:47.479 --> 01:24:51.279
I had something, I'll give you
an example, I won't I won't

1399
01:24:51.359 --> 01:24:56.159
use his name, but I'll just
somebody I could whatever, it doesn't really

1400
01:24:56.199 --> 01:25:00.560
matter. But somebody I work with
who's a really smart guy who played in

1401
01:25:00.560 --> 01:25:03.680
this league who now works on television. You know, it's phone to me

1402
01:25:03.760 --> 01:25:09.560
last night at eleven thirty trying to
wrap his head around stuff. And so

1403
01:25:09.720 --> 01:25:14.880
if a guy who's that embedded in
our sport is having trouble figuring it out,

1404
01:25:15.680 --> 01:25:18.680
what's the average fan of the CFL
dealing with? Never mind, you

1405
01:25:18.680 --> 01:25:23.359
know, a general sports fan,
somebody who's not familiar with things like the

1406
01:25:23.439 --> 01:25:27.840
ratio. So I understand the purpose
of this. It's to give coaches more

1407
01:25:27.880 --> 01:25:32.039
flexibilities, allowed them to use better
players in situations to make the game better.

1408
01:25:32.199 --> 01:25:38.600
I get the objective. I'm very
hesitant about the application, and more

1409
01:25:38.760 --> 01:25:43.439
than anything with translation, I have
another question for Dave here. But Jason,

1410
01:25:43.479 --> 01:25:45.479
Yeah, what do you make of
that? Like two, it's like

1411
01:25:45.520 --> 01:25:47.159
we're speaking in another language, where
I do you think the Canadian game?

1412
01:25:47.159 --> 01:25:51.000
And we know this from trying to
cover Like once you're in the wall of

1413
01:25:51.079 --> 01:25:55.279
like talking CFL are watching it,
it's awesome, but like it wasn't really

1414
01:25:55.359 --> 01:25:57.880
until I was up there. Kind
of talking with everyone that you feel like

1415
01:25:57.920 --> 01:26:00.399
you're I can't part of the club. Now, what do you make of

1416
01:26:00.439 --> 01:26:02.359
this, Jason? And then like
it's one more kind of thing now that

1417
01:26:02.520 --> 01:26:08.960
barrier. Yeah, I agree with
Dave. I think it's another barrier to

1418
01:26:09.319 --> 01:26:13.159
fans that are trying to understand what
the CFL is all about. Um,

1419
01:26:13.319 --> 01:26:15.600
the depth charts were just such a
headache to look at the other day when

1420
01:26:15.600 --> 01:26:19.159
they when they came out. So
honestly, I think that you know,

1421
01:26:19.159 --> 01:26:23.359
when this came out, I was
in favor of the rule. I thought

1422
01:26:23.399 --> 01:26:25.279
that, um, you know,
this would just be a little bit of

1423
01:26:25.319 --> 01:26:29.039
a background thing, wouldn't be as
visible. But you saw from those depth

1424
01:26:29.119 --> 01:26:32.439
charts just how visible it is and
how complicated it all is. And I

1425
01:26:32.479 --> 01:26:36.239
think it's confusing to fans, and
I think that this is something that the

1426
01:26:36.239 --> 01:26:41.039
CFL will have to get, um, you know, figured out pretty quickly.

1427
01:26:41.079 --> 01:26:44.760
I think here, Dave, in
terms of this American TV stuff,

1428
01:26:44.800 --> 01:26:46.840
and I so I'm so dumb,
so like this all comes out. We're

1429
01:26:46.840 --> 01:26:49.560
even talking about this for weeks.
So I finally sat down about an hour

1430
01:26:49.600 --> 01:26:51.560
ago, I'm like I need to
Okay, how am I watching the game

1431
01:26:51.600 --> 01:26:54.520
tonight? Right, Like, how
am I going to watch the game because

1432
01:26:54.560 --> 01:26:59.039
we thought it's not CBS, CBS
Sports Network all that, Um, it's

1433
01:26:59.079 --> 01:27:00.680
on Fubo. I have Fubo,
It's on Fubo. If you have ut

1434
01:27:00.880 --> 01:27:03.520
TV, it's on ut TV.
So that to me, that's two of

1435
01:27:03.560 --> 01:27:08.520
the largest streaming If I'm going to
watch TV here, that's you know,

1436
01:27:08.600 --> 01:27:11.439
if I'm actually going to subscribe to
something. What do you make of this?

1437
01:27:11.479 --> 01:27:14.439
Because I had our big giving the
games away for free with the CFL

1438
01:27:14.439 --> 01:27:16.800
plus everything else, what do you
make of the soul hodgepodge CFL American TV

1439
01:27:16.880 --> 01:27:19.399
deal? Well, I think it
is a bit of a hodgepodge, And

1440
01:27:19.680 --> 01:27:26.960
like I think there's the trickney part
is you've got a part of the season

1441
01:27:27.039 --> 01:27:30.279
that is not up against college football
or the NFL. Is the part of

1442
01:27:30.319 --> 01:27:34.119
your season that has value. But
that season runs out by early September.

1443
01:27:34.640 --> 01:27:36.720
So the weird thing is in most
leagues we think, well, if you

1444
01:27:36.760 --> 01:27:41.439
were going to buy the games of
the league, you buy the second half,

1445
01:27:41.560 --> 01:27:44.439
right, you want to stretch round
the battles for the playoffs and then

1446
01:27:44.439 --> 01:27:47.359
the playoffs in Great Cup. In
this league, we have an opposite situation.

1447
01:27:47.439 --> 01:27:51.640
So it looks to me like the
league went out and you know,

1448
01:27:51.960 --> 01:27:55.359
ask CBS and said what do you
want us to do? And they said,

1449
01:27:55.399 --> 01:27:59.720
we'd love a Sunday night game,
especially you know, which is we've

1450
01:27:59.760 --> 01:28:01.039
never Sunday at games in this league, and now we got them ten out

1451
01:28:01.039 --> 01:28:05.800
of the first twelve weeks and certainly
as regular and we'd like a Sunday night

1452
01:28:05.840 --> 01:28:09.960
game and we'll buy a package of
thirty four games with you you know,

1453
01:28:10.000 --> 01:28:13.039
through to September. And then I
assume the league went really hard to try

1454
01:28:13.039 --> 01:28:16.199
to find people to buy the rest
and they couldn't. And I think putting

1455
01:28:16.239 --> 01:28:21.399
them on free streaming is probably less
of an affront to CBS who paid for

1456
01:28:21.520 --> 01:28:26.800
games that then it would be for
them to give them the ESPN or something

1457
01:28:26.840 --> 01:28:29.720
like that. Right, And now
this is just me speculating. I am

1458
01:28:29.760 --> 01:28:34.359
not in the boardrooms at TSN learning
about our international television contracts and streams,

1459
01:28:34.439 --> 01:28:38.840
so um, you know that that's
my speculation. So you know, I

1460
01:28:38.880 --> 01:28:43.720
think ultimately they kind of served all
their purpose. One is to get with

1461
01:28:43.800 --> 01:28:46.680
a carrier in the US that would
be you know, credible and would actually

1462
01:28:46.720 --> 01:28:49.880
tell people when the games are on. I mean, Jim nance reading that

1463
01:28:50.000 --> 01:28:56.039
CFL promo on the on the weekend. I mean, that's honestly, that's

1464
01:28:56.119 --> 01:29:00.399
more promo than like ESPN did,
Like I don't want to. What I'm

1465
01:29:00.399 --> 01:29:02.760
saying is that one of the issues
with ESPN and other carriers is the game's

1466
01:29:02.760 --> 01:29:05.600
just kind of popped out of a
crack in the sidewalk there's a CFL game

1467
01:29:05.640 --> 01:29:09.680
one, rather than actually telling people
when they're on. So that I thought

1468
01:29:09.680 --> 01:29:12.760
that was significant that they in front
of a huge audience, you know,

1469
01:29:12.800 --> 01:29:16.359
that was that was rolled out.
So they actually monetize it, you know,

1470
01:29:16.399 --> 01:29:19.079
to a limited degree. But in
the CFL. You know, if

1471
01:29:19.079 --> 01:29:21.760
somebody knocks at your door and says
you want one hundred thousand, you asked

1472
01:29:21.800 --> 01:29:26.199
for nothing here, Okay, you
know that's that's the start. That's your

1473
01:29:26.239 --> 01:29:29.840
starting point, we believe based on
the reporter figure. And then you've all

1474
01:29:29.920 --> 01:29:33.840
the other goal is to make sure
your product is distributed for every game to

1475
01:29:33.920 --> 01:29:38.119
anybody who wants in the United States. And it's and again it's one is

1476
01:29:38.239 --> 01:29:41.479
for fans. The other is honestly
for players and coaches, so that when

1477
01:29:41.479 --> 01:29:44.560
you go to recruit, they've seen
the game, they understand the game.

1478
01:29:44.560 --> 01:29:47.800
There's some familiarity, so it's not
perfect, but I think in a kind

1479
01:29:47.800 --> 01:29:53.039
of jigsaw puzzly way, they achieved
all their goals. Get with a carrier

1480
01:29:53.039 --> 01:29:56.960
that would be credible and promote them, try to monetize it and make sure

1481
01:29:56.960 --> 01:30:00.840
every game is exposed and available in
the United States. It kind of a

1482
01:30:00.840 --> 01:30:03.760
side doorway of get there. Excuse
me, but um, but they got

1483
01:30:03.800 --> 01:30:08.760
there. Yeah. I will tell
you when Jim Nance thought about it,

1484
01:30:08.760 --> 01:30:11.439
you would have thought that, you
know, that the Ten Commandments were handed

1485
01:30:11.479 --> 01:30:15.680
down whatever. Like I saw something
Jim Nance talked about the CFL on Gombine.

1486
01:30:15.680 --> 01:30:18.279
I mean it was but hey,
I saw ads today, right,

1487
01:30:18.359 --> 01:30:21.520
Christina tweeted, I think the CFL
news. But I mean at least you're

1488
01:30:21.560 --> 01:30:26.399
seeing I mean, that's about what
the XFL gets on ESPN. I mean

1489
01:30:26.560 --> 01:30:29.199
in terms of like we're running a
couple of ads and banners, you know,

1490
01:30:29.720 --> 01:30:30.640
yeah, yeah, no, I
mean see. I mean I think

1491
01:30:30.640 --> 01:30:33.399
it's you know, that's the kind
of Canadian thing as well, like when

1492
01:30:33.560 --> 01:30:39.159
something that's sort of ours gets recognized
on a big stage in American public culture,

1493
01:30:39.159 --> 01:30:42.760
we all get tingled or something like
that. And that Jim Nance voice

1494
01:30:42.800 --> 01:30:45.720
reading about the BC Lions and the
Calgary Stampeters. It's a little bit surreal

1495
01:30:45.800 --> 01:30:48.359
for for you know, some of
us. But I again, I think

1496
01:30:48.359 --> 01:30:50.960
it's just the stage that they that
they put it on. And I look,

1497
01:30:51.000 --> 01:30:55.239
I was impressed that they got I
wasn't expecting that put it that one.

1498
01:30:55.880 --> 01:30:58.600
We got. The next guest standy
by. Won't hold him too long

1499
01:30:58.680 --> 01:31:01.119
here before I let you go.
Who do you got BC? Calgary tonight?

1500
01:31:02.880 --> 01:31:08.960
You know I've got Calgary. I
think Calgary one being at home and

1501
01:31:09.159 --> 01:31:14.640
two, Like, the Stamps are
a team that every year is a fast

1502
01:31:14.640 --> 01:31:17.800
starting team and that's usually because of
continuity. They have a little less continuity

1503
01:31:17.880 --> 01:31:21.800
this year than they have in the
past. But I'm very curious to see

1504
01:31:21.800 --> 01:31:26.840
what Jake Mayer's like. I love
Kadean Carey watching a back at the absolute

1505
01:31:26.880 --> 01:31:30.560
top of his game. And you
know, we're looking at some their young

1506
01:31:30.600 --> 01:31:32.760
Canadian receivers are gonna have to step
up a little bit because of departures and

1507
01:31:32.800 --> 01:31:36.840
injuries. But yeah, tonight I'm
leaning Stamps. Yeah, it's like backup

1508
01:31:36.920 --> 01:31:42.319
kdem carry right, wasn't backup?
I assume I assume he'll get into the

1509
01:31:42.319 --> 01:31:46.920
game by play number two. Thank
you well, they've appreciated it. I'm

1510
01:31:46.960 --> 01:31:50.159
battling through getting your connection on,
so I appreciate it, and that good

1511
01:31:50.239 --> 01:31:54.079
luck with every night. Yeah,
I should have tried to compute the laptop

1512
01:31:54.159 --> 01:31:56.680
off the bat. I was messing
on the phone and I couldn't get it

1513
01:31:56.680 --> 01:31:59.000
going there, and I thought I
was almost gonna give up. I said,

1514
01:31:59.000 --> 01:32:01.479
well maybe if I try, you
can't give up on the Mark Cast.

1515
01:32:01.520 --> 01:32:06.119
I appreciate. Oh, I cannot
read. Thanks for thank he well,

1516
01:32:06.239 --> 01:32:09.399
Jason. We got our last guest
here, and then I think I

1517
01:32:09.399 --> 01:32:11.359
think the professor is going to be
calling in here at the end here,

1518
01:32:11.359 --> 01:32:15.079
but we got back home here,
Marty York a long time. You know,

1519
01:32:15.399 --> 01:32:16.640
everyone talking CEF I on everything else. Marty, how are you.

1520
01:32:17.359 --> 01:32:20.920
I'm good read Nice to be back
on the Mark Cast. It's good Marty

1521
01:32:21.039 --> 01:32:24.279
was on. Jason. I've been
asking a lot of questions. I don't

1522
01:32:24.279 --> 01:32:26.640
want to keep you too silent.
Do you have any questions from Alty,

1523
01:32:26.680 --> 01:32:31.119
any thoughts about anything you want to
hear Marty talk about Uh not that come

1524
01:32:31.159 --> 01:32:36.399
to my mind right now. But
that's a story of life, story of

1525
01:32:36.399 --> 01:32:39.479
your life. Marty. What do
you what do you make of the game

1526
01:32:39.520 --> 01:32:42.000
tonight? What do we talk.
We're talking to you a BC. I

1527
01:32:42.119 --> 01:32:45.439
heard. I heard Dave Naylor's the
end of your interview with him, and

1528
01:32:46.239 --> 01:32:50.119
Dave and I used to work together
at the Globe and Mail, so I

1529
01:32:50.199 --> 01:32:56.600
know I've known him for many many
years and I like his work. But

1530
01:32:56.720 --> 01:33:02.439
I disagree with him tonight. I
think the Lions are a very good team,

1531
01:33:03.039 --> 01:33:10.159
and um, I think Calgary is
in for a plunge this year.

1532
01:33:10.560 --> 01:33:15.600
I don't. I don't like the
way the Stampeters look necessarily not wild about

1533
01:33:15.600 --> 01:33:23.000
their receiving courts and the quarterback to
me, while he was somewhat impressive last

1534
01:33:23.039 --> 01:33:30.880
year in his first chances, he
doesn't have the pedigree let's say that bou

1535
01:33:30.000 --> 01:33:33.199
lee By Mitchell does, and if
he gets hurt, they don't even have

1536
01:33:33.239 --> 01:33:38.439
a backup so um, or at
least a backup to speaker. So I

1537
01:33:38.560 --> 01:33:41.880
think I think the Stamps are in
a bit of trouble. Are the Lions.

1538
01:33:41.920 --> 01:33:44.119
On the other hand, I mean, yes, they're missing. They're

1539
01:33:44.159 --> 01:33:47.520
not gonna have Nathan Rourke this year
but u or at least not for the

1540
01:33:47.520 --> 01:33:53.279
beginning, and I don't think he's
going to be back. But I like

1541
01:33:53.439 --> 01:33:58.520
Vernon Adams and I think he's and
they also have a pretty decent backup in

1542
01:33:58.600 --> 01:34:02.359
Dane Evans. But I like Adams. He can run and uh he can

1543
01:34:02.600 --> 01:34:08.840
He's he's not afraid to try things, and I think that benefits him quite

1544
01:34:08.840 --> 01:34:12.880
a bit. I liked him a
lot, and I really think the Lions

1545
01:34:12.920 --> 01:34:16.199
are are very very good this year, Marty, what do you think?

1546
01:34:16.239 --> 01:34:18.880
Megan that? And I saw some
of them. Bob here was asking,

1547
01:34:18.920 --> 01:34:21.920
I do what we see Dane tonight? I feel like Dave was brought in.

1548
01:34:21.920 --> 01:34:24.880
And I want to get Jason sauce
on this too, But I feel

1549
01:34:24.920 --> 01:34:27.640
like Dave was brought in. Is
like we have the safety blanket here,

1550
01:34:27.680 --> 01:34:30.560
like we don't really know what vernon. We didn't really have to pay a

1551
01:34:30.560 --> 01:34:32.279
lot for him, right, kind
of got him for a bargain. What

1552
01:34:32.680 --> 01:34:35.319
do you Marty? First, what
do you make of Dave? I do

1553
01:34:35.319 --> 01:34:40.000
do we see him week one week, ten a week? Whatever? Well,

1554
01:34:40.119 --> 01:34:44.880
look, we we saw Dane when
he was in Hamilton. Uh as

1555
01:34:44.960 --> 01:34:50.439
hussy will know Jason uh and uh
he was very very good at times and

1556
01:34:50.479 --> 01:34:57.159
he was very very bad at times. Uh he's a very inconsistent quarterback.

1557
01:34:57.319 --> 01:35:01.399
So um, I think the Lions
are totally committed to Vernon Adams, and

1558
01:35:01.520 --> 01:35:05.640
unless he gets hurt, I don't
think you're gonna see much of the Danaans.

1559
01:35:05.680 --> 01:35:09.239
I think you're gonna see him on
this You might see some shots of

1560
01:35:09.279 --> 01:35:14.239
him on the sideline in the opener
tonight, but I can't imagine him playing

1561
01:35:14.279 --> 01:35:18.000
in the game unless he unless,
as I say, Vernon gets hurt and

1562
01:35:18.039 --> 01:35:24.039
he's you know, experienced insurance to
have. So it's it wasn't a bad

1563
01:35:24.159 --> 01:35:27.840
move by the Lions to get him, Jesson, you know what was wrong

1564
01:35:27.840 --> 01:35:30.079
with Dan last year? Was it
injury? Was it mental stuff? What

1565
01:35:30.119 --> 01:35:34.520
do you make of it? Just
everything just kind of snowballed for him.

1566
01:35:34.520 --> 01:35:39.600
He kind of just lost his confidence. Just some strange things were happening to

1567
01:35:39.720 --> 01:35:44.119
him. So many tipped interceptions last
year early in the season. I had

1568
01:35:44.159 --> 01:35:46.720
to rail this confidence, I think
the confidence of that entire team, and

1569
01:35:46.800 --> 01:35:50.000
I think that's kind of what led
them to making the decision that they did.

1570
01:35:50.119 --> 01:35:54.680
Like, I don't think we truly
saw him rebound even to that you

1571
01:35:54.720 --> 01:35:58.319
know version that we saw of him
in twenty nineteen, twenty twenty one by

1572
01:35:58.359 --> 01:36:00.039
the end of last year, and
that's why they decide to go in a

1573
01:36:00.079 --> 01:36:04.680
different direction at quarterback. I think
if I can just energet, I agree

1574
01:36:04.680 --> 01:36:09.680
with you, Jason. I think
he lost his confidence and probably a new

1575
01:36:09.760 --> 01:36:14.319
start, will you know, give
him some confidence back. Although he's not

1576
01:36:14.439 --> 01:36:16.119
I don't think he's going to get
to play very much, at least not

1577
01:36:16.199 --> 01:36:21.199
at the outset. And I think, you know, Dane Evans was better

1578
01:36:21.279 --> 01:36:26.840
than what he showed last year.
I do believe Hamilton, and I don't

1579
01:36:26.840 --> 01:36:30.880
think I'm alone when I say this. Probably you guys agree. I think

1580
01:36:30.920 --> 01:36:35.800
Hamilton that tie Cats are going to
be significantly better this year. I still

1581
01:36:35.880 --> 01:36:41.720
think Boliv Mitchell has it. I
think he's a future Canadian Football Hall of

1582
01:36:41.760 --> 01:36:46.640
Famer. I you know he's not
that old. I know that he also

1583
01:36:46.720 --> 01:36:53.399
lost his confidence to a degree during
last season when they brought in the other

1584
01:36:53.560 --> 01:37:00.520
kid. And I think that Boliev
Mitchell wasn't the same after they didn't want

1585
01:37:00.520 --> 01:37:03.159
to play him anymore. He came
in a few times. He needn't look

1586
01:37:03.279 --> 01:37:08.520
right. But I think with the
tie Cats, I know Orlando Steiner has

1587
01:37:08.520 --> 01:37:12.119
a lot of faith in him,
and I'm imagining the tie Cats having a

1588
01:37:13.039 --> 01:37:17.119
very, very formidable season this year. I think they'll win the East well,

1589
01:37:17.159 --> 01:37:21.640
I think I think not enough is
said for just like the mental and

1590
01:37:21.760 --> 01:37:25.319
kind of emotional like welfare of all
of this. You know, we had

1591
01:37:25.399 --> 01:37:29.960
Vernon on the show preseason talking,
Yeah, you know when I moved either

1592
01:37:30.039 --> 01:37:32.159
to BC and I was paying rant
in three different places and I got my

1593
01:37:32.199 --> 01:37:35.439
family moving and kind of all that
stuff. Jason, do you see tie

1594
01:37:35.439 --> 01:37:40.000
Cats as the team in the East. I mean, certainly with you know

1595
01:37:40.159 --> 01:37:43.279
argos here they're kind of I wanted
to say it's a rebuilding here, it's

1596
01:37:43.279 --> 01:37:45.039
not, but I mean it's it's
a new two the ledge with you Chack

1597
01:37:45.119 --> 01:37:47.520
Kelly and all that. But do
you think it's the tie Cats division to

1598
01:37:47.520 --> 01:37:51.199
win? I think they have to
view themselves as that, and I think,

1599
01:37:51.720 --> 01:37:56.000
you know, people are rightfully picking
them to win the East as the

1600
01:37:56.039 --> 01:37:58.960
favorite. I think, um,
you know, they're the team that has

1601
01:37:59.119 --> 01:38:00.640
the check a lot of boxes.
That mean, I think they should have

1602
01:38:00.640 --> 01:38:03.399
a pretty good defense. On paper, they almost always have a very good

1603
01:38:03.399 --> 01:38:08.640
defense. I think that they have
some playmakers and Tim White, who I

1604
01:38:08.680 --> 01:38:12.319
think, um I actually predicted would
lead the league in receiving yards this year.

1605
01:38:12.600 --> 01:38:15.600
Duke Williams, if he could have
a bounce back year this year would

1606
01:38:15.640 --> 01:38:18.560
be huge for this team, and
I think believe Mitchell. Going out to

1607
01:38:18.600 --> 01:38:24.119
the East Division, I think where
it's usually an easier path to get to

1608
01:38:24.119 --> 01:38:27.640
the Great Coup. I think that
the tire Cats should be favored to get

1609
01:38:27.680 --> 01:38:32.359
there. And you're right about the
defense. Defense is always strong, and

1610
01:38:32.439 --> 01:38:39.239
they're even stronger this year. They
picked up some really good defensive players.

1611
01:38:39.560 --> 01:38:43.640
They have the best defensive line in
the CFL, in my opinion, that

1612
01:38:44.079 --> 01:38:48.119
even better than Winnipeg. So I
think I'm looking for big things from those

1613
01:38:48.199 --> 01:38:51.319
guys this year. In terms of
the West, who are you? You

1614
01:38:51.359 --> 01:38:56.199
know BC, and it could be
BCS, But who do you see here

1615
01:38:56.319 --> 01:38:59.720
challenging on the West? U say, you know Winnipeg and they can kind

1616
01:38:59.760 --> 01:39:03.960
of their kind of their ownationale.
I mean, Winnipeg is Winnipeg's a dynasty.

1617
01:39:05.000 --> 01:39:09.960
I don't think you can avoid that, you know, unless they really

1618
01:39:10.039 --> 01:39:13.800
flopped this year. But if they
should have a successful year, and I

1619
01:39:14.920 --> 01:39:18.640
don't see why they wouldn't you know, they should win that West. I'm

1620
01:39:18.640 --> 01:39:23.479
sorry, he adds boring. Everybody
says that, but I do believe they'll

1621
01:39:23.520 --> 01:39:29.880
win. I think BC will be
right there behind them, and I'm I'm

1622
01:39:29.920 --> 01:39:36.319
looking for major improvements, including a
victory this weekend from the Edmonton else And

1623
01:39:36.439 --> 01:39:42.199
I mean there's several reasons for this. First of all, don't underestimate this

1624
01:39:42.279 --> 01:39:45.800
Taylor Cornelius. And you know,
the quarterback is so important in the CFL.

1625
01:39:45.920 --> 01:39:50.479
Been covering it since nineteen seventy nine. Unless you have a good quarterback,

1626
01:39:50.560 --> 01:39:55.359
you're not going anywhere in this league. It's a most important position in

1627
01:39:55.560 --> 01:40:01.399
any league in sports, in my
opinion, the quarterback, and Cornelius is

1628
01:40:01.439 --> 01:40:04.600
good. He can run, he's
a big guy, he's got a great

1629
01:40:04.720 --> 01:40:09.800
arm. But more importantly, and
I'm not a wild about the honesty,

1630
01:40:09.840 --> 01:40:12.920
I'm not wild about Chris Jones as
a person. I just I don't like

1631
01:40:13.039 --> 01:40:16.439
his style. However, having said
that, if you look at his record

1632
01:40:16.479 --> 01:40:21.560
and probably your other you've had a
great array of guests on tonight. I'm

1633
01:40:21.600 --> 01:40:28.279
sure some of the others have mentioned
this, Uh that Chris Jones historically has

1634
01:40:28.439 --> 01:40:31.640
bad first seasons when he's when he
runs a team, but he has turned

1635
01:40:31.640 --> 01:40:36.880
to his teams around in the second
year almost every single time in Skatchewan he

1636
01:40:36.960 --> 01:40:41.920
did. He did it everywhere.
And uh, I have a feeling you're

1637
01:40:41.960 --> 01:40:46.840
going to see a major improvement from
the Elks, and don't forget they got

1638
01:40:46.880 --> 01:40:51.640
the best receiver in the league now. So Lewis's you know, I can

1639
01:40:51.960 --> 01:40:56.000
I can see big things from him. So I think they're gonna make the

1640
01:40:56.039 --> 01:41:00.560
playoffs. I think they're gonna finish
the third Jason, are you high on

1641
01:41:00.640 --> 01:41:02.079
corn Dog? What do you make
of Corney Elias year? Because he I

1642
01:41:02.399 --> 01:41:05.880
just remember last year, like he
got the extension on like Tuesday, and

1643
01:41:05.920 --> 01:41:10.479
I'm sitting here on Friday and he's
throwing like an end zone interception. Whatever.

1644
01:41:10.600 --> 01:41:12.600
You know, at the end of
the game, you're losing, continuing

1645
01:41:12.640 --> 01:41:15.359
to lose at home. So what
do you make a corn Dog? I

1646
01:41:15.399 --> 01:41:17.880
think I saw enough at the end
of last year to think that he could

1647
01:41:17.920 --> 01:41:21.600
have a major leap this season.
I think he saw him like because the

1648
01:41:21.640 --> 01:41:25.920
first year he's in the CFL in
twenty twenty one, he was just dreadful.

1649
01:41:26.479 --> 01:41:30.079
But that's kind of to be expected
the first guy, first year starting

1650
01:41:30.079 --> 01:41:32.319
in the CFL. But I think
that, you know, he showed some

1651
01:41:32.319 --> 01:41:36.680
signs. He has the athletic talent. I mean, what six five can

1652
01:41:36.800 --> 01:41:42.279
run, has a big arm,
But if I can't get around with him,

1653
01:41:42.279 --> 01:41:44.720
and I think the thing that he
has to improve on. He has

1654
01:41:44.760 --> 01:41:47.239
to get that accuracy, that completion
percentage up. I think it's very,

1655
01:41:47.399 --> 01:41:50.399
very hard to win in the CFL
if you're computing in the fifty percent of

1656
01:41:50.439 --> 01:41:55.560
passes. I think he was like
a fifty eight percent past or last year,

1657
01:41:55.560 --> 01:41:59.239
which is way better than the year
before even but I think that he

1658
01:41:59.319 --> 01:42:00.800
needs to get that up into the
sixties. Kind of be like a Volie

1659
01:42:00.840 --> 01:42:05.479
by Mitchell, like sixty three sixty
four, and just improve the efficiency of

1660
01:42:05.479 --> 01:42:09.760
the offense. Guys, it's hard
to get first downs if you're not completing

1661
01:42:09.800 --> 01:42:13.319
a certain percentage of your passes.
So I think that's one thing I'm looking

1662
01:42:13.319 --> 01:42:16.920
for him. That's a good point, Jason, but I think it'll happen.

1663
01:42:17.039 --> 01:42:21.680
I think he's going to get more
time. He scrambles very well for

1664
01:42:21.760 --> 01:42:28.359
a big guy, so I actually
think he's going to improve his past percent

1665
01:42:28.479 --> 01:42:33.439
He's got good receivers this year,
recluding Lewis, so he'll his passing percentage

1666
01:42:33.479 --> 01:42:39.479
will go up. In my estimation, if there's another pressure on the tie

1667
01:42:39.479 --> 01:42:42.479
Cats in the East, I just
have to badge. Just overall with Edmonton,

1668
01:42:42.880 --> 01:42:45.720
Victor's running the promotion. I just
don't know, it just doesn't look

1669
01:42:45.760 --> 01:42:48.279
like they've done a lot, Like
they didn't make a you know, it

1670
01:42:48.399 --> 01:42:51.279
wasn't a big move kind of do
what that? Do you think they've done

1671
01:42:51.359 --> 01:42:57.399
enough here? Know the Edmonton On
the others, I think if tie Cats

1672
01:42:57.399 --> 01:42:59.840
have the pressure in the East,
I think Edmonton's got the pressure in the

1673
01:42:59.840 --> 01:43:01.880
West. I just don't know what
they've done to get themselves ready to go

1674
01:43:02.000 --> 01:43:06.880
this year. Well, they got
Lewis that's pretty good, and you've got

1675
01:43:08.039 --> 01:43:12.159
Jones who made all kinds of moves. I mean, look, I'm not

1676
01:43:12.199 --> 01:43:15.239
going to pretend that I'm familiar with
the new faces that they that he's brought

1677
01:43:15.319 --> 01:43:23.479
in, but he usually has a
good read on players who can succeed in

1678
01:43:23.520 --> 01:43:27.720
the CFL. His track record speaks
for itself. Like I said, I

1679
01:43:27.760 --> 01:43:30.760
don't believe he's the nicest person in
the world, but he is a damn

1680
01:43:30.800 --> 01:43:41.079
good coach and I expect that team
to have made enough moves to strengthen itself.

1681
01:43:41.279 --> 01:43:43.560
I know they haven't won at home
in many, many years. I

1682
01:43:43.600 --> 01:43:49.079
think they will. I think they'll
win this weekend against Saskatchewan and even though

1683
01:43:49.119 --> 01:43:54.039
they're underdogs, and I think they'll
win at home plenty this year. I

1684
01:43:54.039 --> 01:43:56.840
know they're having a guaranteed win night. I don't know if i'd be that

1685
01:43:56.920 --> 01:44:02.840
caught Jason last thoughts on that here
we'll get Marty to go and then the

1686
01:44:02.840 --> 01:44:09.159
professor standing by if they're gonna get
rolland here I think I think Saskatchewan coming

1687
01:44:09.239 --> 01:44:12.000
in with Trevor and kind of figure. I think this is like your key

1688
01:44:12.039 --> 01:44:15.039
to the point, what do you
make of Edmonton here and for they try

1689
01:44:15.079 --> 01:44:17.720
to get their first win. Well, we're talking about how much they've improved.

1690
01:44:17.760 --> 01:44:20.079
I think a lot of people will
talk about the receivers, but a

1691
01:44:20.119 --> 01:44:25.399
couple of quiet additions they made on
defense. Two former Chris Jones guys,

1692
01:44:25.479 --> 01:44:30.039
Ac Leonard and Luceez Purefoy. Purefoy
comes over from the BC Lions. Ac

1693
01:44:30.239 --> 01:44:34.600
Leonard comes over from Saskatchewan. Two
guys that started their careers I believe with

1694
01:44:34.680 --> 01:44:40.039
Chris Jones, or at least we're
coached under Chris Jones and Saskatchewan. They

1695
01:44:40.119 --> 01:44:44.720
got a huge addition for those that
defense, who I thought was easily the

1696
01:44:44.760 --> 01:44:48.000
worst defense in the CFL last year. I think that's gonna be potentially those

1697
01:44:48.039 --> 01:44:54.079
could be really big additions for this
season. I absolutely agree. Again,

1698
01:44:54.119 --> 01:45:00.359
boy you've made some good points.
Jason Leonard Particularly's outstanding easily. He's a

1699
01:45:00.399 --> 01:45:03.920
top five defensive player in the CFL. Marty, anything else from me before

1700
01:45:03.920 --> 01:45:08.359
we let you go. I appreciate
you making time in your schedule tonight coming

1701
01:45:08.399 --> 01:45:11.039
on, and we kind of got
everyone slotted on here, so I appreciate

1702
01:45:11.119 --> 01:45:15.960
anything else from you. Read.
It's my pleasure. You can contact me

1703
01:45:15.000 --> 01:45:19.680
anytime. I'll try to accommodate you
whenever possible. I got to ask Jason

1704
01:45:19.760 --> 01:45:27.399
one question, are you related to
Ken Hussey at all? No? No,

1705
01:45:27.479 --> 01:45:30.359
I don't. I don't. I
don't believe. So, I don't

1706
01:45:30.359 --> 01:45:36.079
because when I first started, and
I'm talking about in the when I first

1707
01:45:36.079 --> 01:45:41.800
started covering the CFL for the Globe
and Mail, um, it was we

1708
01:45:42.039 --> 01:45:45.960
paid a lot more attention to it
back then, and there was a Canadian

1709
01:45:46.079 --> 01:45:53.560
coach named Ken Hussey on with the
Argylls, and I remember having some great

1710
01:45:53.640 --> 01:45:57.359
chats with him. It's quite a
while ago, and frankly, you look

1711
01:45:57.399 --> 01:46:00.680
a little like him, so I
thought maybe you were a sunderstand. Maybe

1712
01:46:00.720 --> 01:46:05.439
I'll do some ancestry dot com or
something I like that. Marty, thank

1713
01:46:05.479 --> 01:46:09.039
you so much, appreciated. Thank
you Read thank you, Jason, bite

1714
01:46:09.039 --> 01:46:13.239
guys, and then we'll bring in
here our last guest taking this in.

1715
01:46:13.279 --> 01:46:15.039
We'll probably get off here at you
know, five ten minutes before the game

1716
01:46:15.079 --> 01:46:18.960
starts. I could not wait to
talk tomorrow morning. We are already doing

1717
01:46:19.000 --> 01:46:23.079
our show tomorrow morning nine a m. Said read, I gotta committy talk

1718
01:46:23.479 --> 01:46:27.039
CFL the professor Andrew Burr. How
are you doing, sir? I'm just

1719
01:46:27.119 --> 01:46:30.319
greedy, I really am. I
just want where you're talking. Let's good,

1720
01:46:30.399 --> 01:46:32.119
know, But I mean, you've
said you are excited for the season,

1721
01:46:32.239 --> 01:46:35.359
and we've obviously been talking USFL and
next and everything else. What has

1722
01:46:35.399 --> 01:46:40.439
you so excited for the CFL season? I think just the amount of parody

1723
01:46:40.479 --> 01:46:43.000
that I see across the league.
I think there's just so much movement in

1724
01:46:43.079 --> 01:46:45.760
the offseason. I'm really curious to
see how this merry Go round of quarterbacks

1725
01:46:46.239 --> 01:46:50.920
initiates itself. And honestly, just
making picks this weekend, it was really

1726
01:46:50.960 --> 01:46:54.680
hard for me to pin down a
lot of them because there's just so much

1727
01:46:54.840 --> 01:46:58.960
movement that occurred in the last five
or six months since the season ended.

1728
01:46:59.359 --> 01:47:02.119
And I'm really curious to see which
teams get off a certain starts, like

1729
01:47:02.199 --> 01:47:05.960
you guys were just doing an excellent
job breaking down Edmonton and Saskatchewan. I

1730
01:47:06.520 --> 01:47:09.880
kind of have to jump on the
train here and say that I think that

1731
01:47:10.000 --> 01:47:12.880
Edmonton's gonna win this weekend too,
and that would be the first time in

1732
01:47:12.960 --> 01:47:15.800
literally years that they've won a home
game. The fact that they even would

1733
01:47:15.840 --> 01:47:18.359
get that in front of your home
crowd, I think would be immense going

1734
01:47:18.479 --> 01:47:21.359
forward and setting the tone for the
rest of the season, especially in year

1735
01:47:21.399 --> 01:47:27.359
two of the Chris Jones program as
they try to really reboot their franchise and

1736
01:47:28.159 --> 01:47:31.199
you know, seeing guys like Trevor
Harris play now in Saskatchewan, seeing Cody

1737
01:47:31.239 --> 01:47:38.560
Fergardo in Montreal, seeing the Vernon
Adams regime really start here in BC,

1738
01:47:38.800 --> 01:47:41.920
not just kind of being a substitute
for Nathan Rourke. I mean, there's

1739
01:47:41.920 --> 01:47:45.439
so many different headlines just with the
quarterbacks alone, not even including you know,

1740
01:47:46.199 --> 01:47:50.840
just seeing how these teams adjust to
what they had from last year expectations.

1741
01:47:51.800 --> 01:47:55.039
I'm really curious to see what happens
in the East. I mean,

1742
01:47:55.399 --> 01:47:58.720
I would think that Toronto has probably
kind of still top of the heap just

1743
01:47:58.800 --> 01:48:00.560
because they are the reigning Great Cup
champions, but again, things change so

1744
01:48:00.720 --> 01:48:05.319
quickly overnight, and the CFL just
with how much players and coaches move around

1745
01:48:06.279 --> 01:48:12.199
Hamilton's I'm really really excited to see
what Hamilton doesn't believe I Mitchell, if

1746
01:48:12.199 --> 01:48:14.920
they can kind of regain some of
the magic that they had two three years

1747
01:48:14.960 --> 01:48:17.239
ago. There's just I don't know
it. To me, it's just there's

1748
01:48:17.239 --> 01:48:19.640
so much parody. Like I said, that's kind of what I most look

1749
01:48:19.680 --> 01:48:25.520
forward to outside of Winnipeg. That's
still an exception in the whole equation.

1750
01:48:26.239 --> 01:48:29.640
I appreciate you complimenting our coverage on
here because it really feels just like I've

1751
01:48:29.680 --> 01:48:31.760
had a whirlwin here of trying to
rearrange guests and stuff on. So I'm

1752
01:48:31.760 --> 01:48:35.560
glad the content is good because sometimes
I'm just like, Okay, say smart

1753
01:48:35.640 --> 01:48:39.960
things, you know, Jason or
whoever on here. Let's do this exercise

1754
01:48:40.039 --> 01:48:42.520
before we get out. I think
this will be fun because this is this

1755
01:48:42.720 --> 01:48:45.880
is the time of year, right, every everyone's made the best roster moves,

1756
01:48:45.000 --> 01:48:48.640
right, We've all we're all positioned
in this. I want the team

1757
01:48:48.800 --> 01:48:54.039
that you are high on, do
you think is going to not live up

1758
01:48:54.079 --> 01:48:56.720
to expectations? And then the team
that you're kind of matt On, do

1759
01:48:56.800 --> 01:49:00.239
you think is going to exceed expectations? So it's good to Jason first,

1760
01:49:00.279 --> 01:49:03.279
hope I didn't give you enough time
to kind of formulate a little bit of

1761
01:49:03.319 --> 01:49:05.680
a thought. But a team you're
really low one that you think is going

1762
01:49:05.720 --> 01:49:09.840
to succeed, and then a team
you're really high on, you're like saying,

1763
01:49:09.880 --> 01:49:11.720
like the tie Cats are going to
miss the playoffs? Right, I

1764
01:49:11.720 --> 01:49:13.680
mean that would be an example the
other way. So what, Jason,

1765
01:49:13.760 --> 01:49:18.520
what do you have? I think
I'm not super high on Toronto, but

1766
01:49:18.560 --> 01:49:21.399
I do think they're gonna have a
pretty good record this year. I think

1767
01:49:21.439 --> 01:49:26.000
that, you know, changing quarterbacks
and going with the first time CFL starter

1768
01:49:26.359 --> 01:49:30.640
is is gonna be tough for anybody
to succeed. But I think in terms

1769
01:49:30.680 --> 01:49:33.880
of their the roster, they still
brought back a lot of different pieces and

1770
01:49:34.000 --> 01:49:38.319
going cheap in terms of paying the
quarterback allowed them to keep a lot more

1771
01:49:38.399 --> 01:49:41.279
pieces. So I still think they'll
have a pretty good season, even though

1772
01:49:41.319 --> 01:49:44.399
I don't think they have that.
You know, I do think Hamilton will

1773
01:49:44.439 --> 01:49:47.560
ultimately win the East this year over
Toronto, but I think Toronto will probably

1774
01:49:47.600 --> 01:49:50.960
still make the playoffs. And then
who's the team that you're high on that

1775
01:49:51.039 --> 01:49:56.600
you think is not going to do
good. I think I think I would

1776
01:49:56.640 --> 01:50:00.039
be higher on Ottawa if Jeremia Mazzoli
was healthy going into this year. I

1777
01:50:00.199 --> 01:50:03.239
think that you know, they brought
in a lot of players last off season,

1778
01:50:03.359 --> 01:50:05.560
so um, they kind of got
that out of the way. They

1779
01:50:05.560 --> 01:50:10.079
didn't really do a whole lot this
offseason, So I think if they were

1780
01:50:10.159 --> 01:50:13.560
fully healthy going into this season,
I think, um they I would have

1781
01:50:13.600 --> 01:50:15.119
been very high on them. I
probably would have picked them to finish second

1782
01:50:15.119 --> 01:50:18.920
in the East. But I think
just the you know, uncertainty with injuries

1783
01:50:18.960 --> 01:50:24.199
around that team is why I think
they're probably gonna finish lower than I wouldn't

1784
01:50:24.239 --> 01:50:27.319
predicted. Yeah, I just said
I have no posts at all on Ottawa.

1785
01:50:27.439 --> 01:50:30.159
Like this is the longest obviously we've
sat and talked for two hours year

1786
01:50:30.159 --> 01:50:32.640
about the CFL tonight. We've obviously
been doing team previous since I just have

1787
01:50:32.800 --> 01:50:35.840
no like pulse on them. And
now that was Missoli being out and you

1788
01:50:35.920 --> 01:50:39.640
know, trying to come back in
here week four or whatever. Andy,

1789
01:50:39.760 --> 01:50:42.319
who are you high on do you
think it's going to falter? And who

1790
01:50:42.359 --> 01:50:45.800
are you low one? Do you
think it's going to succeed. Well,

1791
01:50:45.840 --> 01:50:48.680
I'm probably bought too much stock and
chat Kelly, and so I probably might

1792
01:50:48.720 --> 01:50:51.840
regret it about week three. But
look, I'm gonna be buying and buying

1793
01:50:51.920 --> 01:50:57.880
until I see otherwise because I think
he's ready to assume the throne from ABT.

1794
01:50:58.560 --> 01:51:01.920
I don't know how it's going to
be offensively cohesively. I think that

1795
01:51:02.039 --> 01:51:05.239
staff just always does a great job
of getting their guys to play well together

1796
01:51:05.399 --> 01:51:09.840
and no matter like their culture I
think is very underrated in Toronto. I

1797
01:51:09.920 --> 01:51:12.520
really do believe that. I think
their coaching staff does an excellent job.

1798
01:51:13.800 --> 01:51:16.319
I assume that they're going to win
the East again, but again I could

1799
01:51:16.319 --> 01:51:20.399
be wrong. And like Jason said, I mean I think Hamilton could storm

1800
01:51:20.479 --> 01:51:25.760
back out of the gates and maybe
reclaimed the throne in the East for the

1801
01:51:25.880 --> 01:51:30.560
team that I guess I'm feeling low
on that. I think it actually surprised

1802
01:51:30.600 --> 01:51:33.560
a lot of people is Edmonton.
I think Edmonton could actually get into a

1803
01:51:33.600 --> 01:51:38.319
playoff spot. I know that sounds
absolutely crazy considering what they've been as a

1804
01:51:38.359 --> 01:51:42.439
franchise the last two years. I
think that's kind of the one that I

1805
01:51:42.640 --> 01:51:45.760
think might end up surprising people that
I think is only like a six or

1806
01:51:45.800 --> 01:51:48.399
seven win team but could actually be
surprisingly good. I will give you one

1807
01:51:48.439 --> 01:51:53.880
team that I think is actually gonna
bottom out completely and this might surprise a

1808
01:51:53.920 --> 01:51:56.439
lot of people. Calgary. I
don't know why, but I got this

1809
01:51:56.640 --> 01:51:59.600
really weird feeling that something's not right
in that camp. And I don't know

1810
01:51:59.640 --> 01:52:03.159
if Jake Mayor's really bad guy.
I know Boli had kind of reach his

1811
01:52:03.279 --> 01:52:08.119
end of the open, he kind
of had had his run there, but

1812
01:52:08.279 --> 01:52:11.319
I'm not so sure that they're really
ready to kind of move on from that

1813
01:52:11.439 --> 01:52:15.239
regime. And also I'm just kind
of worried about some of the injuries they've

1814
01:52:15.279 --> 01:52:18.239
had on offense from the receiving corps. And I also just don't I don't

1815
01:52:18.279 --> 01:52:21.000
know like if they're gonna be able
to supply enough points in this season.

1816
01:52:21.079 --> 01:52:25.600
I think Calgary could finish. I
think they could finish last in the West.

1817
01:52:25.720 --> 01:52:27.960
And I know a lot of people
would disagree with me about that,

1818
01:52:28.039 --> 01:52:32.399
but that's that's my surprise. Like
really like tires fall off the off the

1819
01:52:32.520 --> 01:52:36.439
car in the scenario. It's interesting. I was gonna say, because I

1820
01:52:36.560 --> 01:52:40.960
have high expectations on Calgary. I'm
a big Jake Mayer believer. Obviously he

1821
01:52:41.119 --> 01:52:44.720
was on the show. I like
Chad Kelly back when he followed us on

1822
01:52:44.800 --> 01:52:46.119
Twitter a lot more. I don't
know what if I did, if my

1823
01:52:46.199 --> 01:52:49.640
Brian Scott love was enough to kind
of like turn chat against me. I

1824
01:52:49.760 --> 01:52:54.319
do think Tiecat's missing the playoffs.
I think that's gonna be my hot take.

1825
01:52:54.399 --> 01:52:56.439
I think that. I don't think
Bow, I don't think. I

1826
01:52:56.479 --> 01:53:00.520
don't think Bow has it at all. The same with Aaron Rodgers the Jets

1827
01:53:00.520 --> 01:53:02.680
are gonna falter. I don't think
Rogers has it. I think he's kind

1828
01:53:02.720 --> 01:53:06.159
of maintained that whole myth over in
Green Bay for years. I think Bow

1829
01:53:06.239 --> 01:53:10.119
comes in and sticks up to join. That's my what do you say,

1830
01:53:10.239 --> 01:53:12.479
Jason, We've been talking to Bow
all game, but I came in.

1831
01:53:12.760 --> 01:53:15.239
That was my heel turn at the
end. I certainly think it's within the

1832
01:53:15.279 --> 01:53:19.159
realm of possibilities. Like I think
one thing I'm watching tomorrow night when the

1833
01:53:19.199 --> 01:53:24.760
tire gets played the first game,
is are the passes for Bow falling up

1834
01:53:24.840 --> 01:53:27.600
short? A lot of the time
I saw that a lot. It was

1835
01:53:27.680 --> 01:53:30.960
a sign of a kind of a
declining player. Is that arm gonna look

1836
01:53:30.960 --> 01:53:33.720
a little bit more lively after having
a lot more time off last season.

1837
01:53:33.840 --> 01:53:36.880
So I mean that's one thing I'm
looking at. Is not the most mobile

1838
01:53:36.920 --> 01:53:40.920
guy in the world. So yes, it's definitely in the possibilities, I

1839
01:53:41.000 --> 01:53:45.199
think in terms of them completely falling
the crater ring this year. But I

1840
01:53:45.359 --> 01:53:47.680
do think that maybe if he gets
injured. Matthew Schiltz is kind of an

1841
01:53:47.760 --> 01:53:53.439
underrated player. He was I believe
one of the higher rated quarterbacks by PFF

1842
01:53:53.680 --> 01:53:57.880
that the CFL just put up those
stats the other day on their website.

1843
01:53:57.960 --> 01:54:00.520
But I think Schiltz could win some
games for them. But I think ultimately

1844
01:54:00.560 --> 01:54:04.640
if both faulters um your prediction may
come true, I do I do.

1845
01:54:04.800 --> 01:54:09.560
I think I think they needed to
cut Bay and they think we got Mayor

1846
01:54:09.680 --> 01:54:12.560
here. I mean they had there
was no hesitation. We're then like we're

1847
01:54:12.600 --> 01:54:15.399
moving on. We're here, we
got married Andy. Any final thoughts and

1848
01:54:15.479 --> 01:54:17.079
then we'll kind of put this show
in the bed. Here. Well,

1849
01:54:17.119 --> 01:54:20.880
I'm actually glad that Jason brought up
Matthew Schultz. I had a bold prediction

1850
01:54:20.960 --> 01:54:25.640
in our chat last year. I
don't think Reid remembers this because he might

1851
01:54:25.720 --> 01:54:29.960
have been doing something else, but
I boldly proclaimed sometime in mid season.

1852
01:54:30.000 --> 01:54:32.520
I said, if Matthew Schultz actually
stays healthy, I think the Tigers are

1853
01:54:32.520 --> 01:54:35.840
going to win the East. He
didn't, and they obviously had quarterback trouble

1854
01:54:35.880 --> 01:54:39.319
all year. So look, maybe
I'm not sure if I'm viticated for that,

1855
01:54:39.439 --> 01:54:42.439
but like that's a claim that I
made because I actually really liked what

1856
01:54:42.520 --> 01:54:45.119
he was doing. Like he brought
the most consistency to that position the entire

1857
01:54:45.279 --> 01:54:48.479
season out of all the quarterbacks,
obviously more than eighteen Evans, more than

1858
01:54:48.520 --> 01:54:51.840
anybody else that they trotted out there. So I kind of agree with you.

1859
01:54:51.880 --> 01:54:54.840
I actually like Schultz a lot,
and if he if he has to

1860
01:54:54.880 --> 01:54:57.840
come in and play for both,
I don't think that's the worst thing in

1861
01:54:57.880 --> 01:55:00.560
the world, honestly. In fact, that might be the US back up

1862
01:55:00.279 --> 01:55:04.199
position and maybe in the entire league
possibly, So I think that that would

1863
01:55:04.239 --> 01:55:09.720
be not too bad. But obviously
you want you want Boat to perform well,

1864
01:55:09.800 --> 01:55:12.920
you want him to outperform expectations.
You want him to become back healthy

1865
01:55:12.960 --> 01:55:15.079
because it's good for the league,
and it's good for the Typecats because I

1866
01:55:15.119 --> 01:55:19.520
think it pushes their ceiling higher than
it has been in the last than it

1867
01:55:19.680 --> 01:55:23.640
was last season. Well, if
you got Max was going to come into

1868
01:55:23.760 --> 01:55:26.680
here and then disagree with me,
he did. He said too much instability

1869
01:55:26.720 --> 01:55:30.479
and Ottawa Montreal for him to make
it really like Hamilton's defense hard for me,

1870
01:55:30.560 --> 01:55:32.520
not since Hee Hamilton. I'm telling
you, I'm Cody is going to

1871
01:55:32.600 --> 01:55:36.600
come in career researgons here, Jim
Mapel, Cody Fajardo. I think that

1872
01:55:36.720 --> 01:55:42.800
bad is going to be a Christens
here Ol professor. Game is starting soon.

1873
01:55:43.000 --> 01:55:45.760
I think we've made it through.
Jason has been in a trying time

1874
01:55:45.800 --> 01:55:47.560
with me. Today, We've had
guests for Shufflin's and everything else. I

1875
01:55:47.640 --> 01:55:51.279
think we did okay, Andy hopping
on, don't forget Andy and I are

1876
01:55:51.359 --> 01:55:57.000
going to be tomorrow morning Live nine
am for our XFL plotting. The XFL

1877
01:55:57.119 --> 01:56:01.159
twenty twenty four is course. Jason. I will be back on Monday to

1878
01:56:01.319 --> 01:56:04.399
be determined sometime early, you know, in the morning, trying to do

1879
01:56:04.520 --> 01:56:09.600
our CFL Week one recap, and
then Pat Raffino is going to be joining

1880
01:56:09.680 --> 01:56:12.640
me Tuesday. We are going to
do our USFL recap that day. Because

1881
01:56:12.640 --> 01:56:15.159
I got so excited about doing the
CFL one, I said, no,

1882
01:56:15.600 --> 01:56:17.239
Hayter Reid, don't forget about the
USFL. So we're going to do the

1883
01:56:17.319 --> 01:56:20.800
USFL on Tuesday. We'll have ratings
and everything with that, We'll go to

1884
01:56:20.920 --> 01:56:24.600
Andy and then we'll let Jason close
this out Andy. Anything else from you,

1885
01:56:25.560 --> 01:56:28.319
I'm just really excited for this.
It's been an absolute world win,

1886
01:56:28.399 --> 01:56:30.720
I know for you, I mean, this is just a marathon. It

1887
01:56:30.840 --> 01:56:33.479
started with XFL coverage that went into
USFL coverage. Now here we are with

1888
01:56:33.560 --> 01:56:36.399
CFL coverage. I mean, this
is a this is truly a year round

1889
01:56:36.479 --> 01:56:40.960
operation now. But I couldn't be
more excited for the season. I'm really

1890
01:56:41.039 --> 01:56:44.800
really looking forward to just seeing the
crowds of the cambaraderie and just seeing the

1891
01:56:45.479 --> 01:56:47.079
just seeing a lot of players that
I recognize. Again. I'm really really

1892
01:56:47.159 --> 01:56:53.119
excited for the CFL this season.
I can't wait. And I just I

1893
01:56:53.279 --> 01:56:58.000
know, I just hope that BC
and PC's another team again. I'm an

1894
01:56:58.199 --> 01:57:01.439
Ardent Fernan Adams supporter. I wear
it on my sleeve. I hope he

1895
01:57:01.479 --> 01:57:05.039
has a fantastic season. I really
really do, because I think he has

1896
01:57:05.079 --> 01:57:08.359
the ability to. This is the
best situation he's ever been in. So

1897
01:57:08.600 --> 01:57:13.039
for anybody that I'm trying to be
as objective as possible. But if there's

1898
01:57:13.039 --> 01:57:16.079
anybody that I'm really rooting for,
it's him completely. If this wasn't if

1899
01:57:16.119 --> 01:57:19.399
this wasn't the PG podcast, I
would have done some obscene hand gestures there

1900
01:57:19.399 --> 01:57:24.079
when you're talking about your life forever. Yeah, this is day one hundred

1901
01:57:24.079 --> 01:57:27.199
and ten here of all football coverage
here. Start with our live show back

1902
01:57:27.479 --> 01:57:30.960
February eighteen for the excellent Jason.
Anything else from you plug your channel before

1903
01:57:30.960 --> 01:57:32.319
we get out of here, please, Yeah. So you can find me

1904
01:57:32.439 --> 01:57:38.960
over on at YouTube on at Hussey's
Huddle where you'll find multiple videos a week

1905
01:57:39.039 --> 01:57:44.399
on the cfol recap videos or we'll
be doing recap here on this channel weekly

1906
01:57:44.479 --> 01:57:48.319
on Monday, so looking forward to
that. Also a preview videos other team

1907
01:57:48.439 --> 01:57:53.239
specific content over there. So if
you guys want the best CFL content on

1908
01:57:53.319 --> 01:57:57.560
YouTube, be sure to check that
out. Yeah, subscribe, give Jason

1909
01:57:57.640 --> 01:58:00.319
subscribe, give me a subscribe please
here. Lots of work exciting, but

1910
01:58:00.399 --> 01:58:03.960
yeah, another show tomorrow and then
we'll have We still got to figure out

1911
01:58:03.960 --> 01:58:08.920
the XFL rookie Draft. I really
need a time for that next Friday.

1912
01:58:09.000 --> 01:58:12.520
But our plan is to do the
XFL Rookie Draft. But I have to

1913
01:58:12.600 --> 01:58:15.479
film a dance performance, so I
hope it is earlier in the day.

1914
01:58:15.560 --> 01:58:17.800
So let's hope for that. Thank
you guys so much. I'll play all

1915
01:58:17.840 --> 01:58:21.479
this and we'll get out of here
and go watch the game and go go

1916
01:58:21.680 --> 01:58:26.199
Lions, America's CFL team here and
thank you guys so much.