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Appreciate you guys hanging out with us 7 00:00:41.039 --> 00:00:45.439 here two hours in with one more to go, and we haven't spent much 8 00:00:45.439 --> 00:00:50.759 time outside of the first segment discussing what happened last night, which was the 9 00:00:50.799 --> 00:00:58.000 presidential debate, and I'm trying to see I would imagine maybe in the next 10 00:00:58.000 --> 00:01:02.119 twenty four hours, you know, maybe we'll get some numbers as far as 11 00:01:02.119 --> 00:01:03.879 the viewership of last night's debate. I mean, for what it's worth, 12 00:01:03.879 --> 00:01:10.560 they always are very, very highly watched compared to I mean, if you 13 00:01:10.599 --> 00:01:15.519 look at the most watched live events throughout every year during an election year, 14 00:01:15.599 --> 00:01:19.120 when there's a presidential debate, they're sprinkled in there. They're not, you 15 00:01:19.159 --> 00:01:22.319 know, as watched as the super Bowl or anything like that. But there'll 16 00:01:22.319 --> 00:01:25.280 be a big number. But I just have a feeling that even though the 17 00:01:25.280 --> 00:01:30.239 circumstances are not ideal for both sides, it seems I just have a feeling 18 00:01:30.239 --> 00:01:33.000 there are people who watch that typically wouldn't because they realize, like, what 19 00:01:33.000 --> 00:01:34.840 are we gonna do here? Things aren't going great? Let's see which one 20 00:01:34.840 --> 00:01:38.200 of these candidates. I mean, I know people already have their mind up 21 00:01:38.560 --> 00:01:40.560 may May, they've already made their mind up of what they're going to do 22 00:01:40.640 --> 00:01:42.400 on election day. But you know, maybe you are somebody that you know 23 00:01:44.040 --> 00:01:49.400 is not super I wouldn't say loyal, but like you want to you know, 24 00:01:49.400 --> 00:01:52.359 you're not just going to do what your what you know your party does 25 00:01:52.400 --> 00:01:55.799 because it's your party. You're gonna hear it and make a decision based off 26 00:01:55.840 --> 00:01:59.879 of what you feel like makes the most sense and how it could particularly particularly 27 00:02:00.519 --> 00:02:07.439 benefit you. So there's also the component of people watching because it was at 28 00:02:07.439 --> 00:02:10.319 times comedy. I mean, that's just be real. It was, And 29 00:02:10.719 --> 00:02:15.599 uh, I know there were some people laughing because what else are you gonna 30 00:02:15.639 --> 00:02:20.000 do? Right, like laughs, so you don't cry, and all you 31 00:02:20.039 --> 00:02:23.560 can do is laugh because of just you know, two senior citizens yelling at 32 00:02:23.560 --> 00:02:28.599 each other like children, and you know, always wanting to get the last 33 00:02:28.639 --> 00:02:30.560 word. It just it, really it was. It was actually legitimately funny, 34 00:02:30.599 --> 00:02:36.439 Like I laughed genuinely, not like for effect. I laughed because it 35 00:02:36.479 --> 00:02:42.080 brought me laughter to see just how ridiculous this thing was at times. I 36 00:02:42.080 --> 00:02:46.400 mean, Trump can't control himself, right, like he's gonna no matter what 37 00:02:46.439 --> 00:02:50.680 Biden says, Trump, Trump's going to counter it, always want to get 38 00:02:50.680 --> 00:02:53.080 the last word, not really listening to the question that's asked. And then 39 00:02:53.120 --> 00:02:57.639 Biden, I mean, God bless him. I mean at times, you 40 00:02:57.680 --> 00:03:00.800 know you, I mean not even really at I think through out even when 41 00:03:00.840 --> 00:03:02.080 he did say things that you could understand what he was saying, and he 42 00:03:02.080 --> 00:03:05.599 didn't get caught up and you know, lose his train of thought, forget 43 00:03:05.599 --> 00:03:07.360 what planet he's on, like he just I mean, he can't even speak 44 00:03:07.400 --> 00:03:15.039 loudly, and no matter what happens, we'll always have this. This was 45 00:03:15.080 --> 00:03:22.800 said at a presidential debate, and I still can't believe it. But then 46 00:03:22.840 --> 00:03:27.039 again, given the situation it's it probably shouldn't have been such a surprise to 47 00:03:27.080 --> 00:03:30.960 hear this. What what are you talking about the morals of an alley cat 48 00:03:32.560 --> 00:03:36.879 sir, I didn't have sex with the porn star. What are you talking 49 00:03:36.879 --> 00:03:39.719 about? You have the morals of an alley cat? Is that that's kind 50 00:03:39.719 --> 00:03:44.360 of like a low key old man jab? Yeah, like what what do 51 00:03:44.680 --> 00:03:47.080 what type of morals do alley cats? Alley cats are dirty and you know, 52 00:03:47.319 --> 00:03:51.680 just you know that makes sense, slimmy, Yeah, I mean, 53 00:03:53.919 --> 00:03:55.199 you know, no, I've never heard anybody say that, but I think 54 00:03:55.199 --> 00:03:59.039 a lot of people my age are younger probably that's not in their back pocket 55 00:03:59.039 --> 00:04:00.560 to throw at somebody being an alley cat. I mean, it sounds like 56 00:04:00.599 --> 00:04:03.360 something from your old alley cat, you like, it sounds like something from 57 00:04:03.400 --> 00:04:06.840 you know, fifty sixty years ago, which at that point, I think 58 00:04:06.879 --> 00:04:11.960 Biden was fifty or sixty years old, fifty or sixty years ago, but 59 00:04:12.080 --> 00:04:15.080 you know, the morals of an alley cat. I did not have sex 60 00:04:15.120 --> 00:04:17.720 with a porn I mean, it's just it's it's insane that we're here and 61 00:04:19.360 --> 00:04:23.839 they'll do it again at some point, and I wouldn't expect much of a 62 00:04:23.879 --> 00:04:30.000 difference. Although it was it was pretty crazy to see, but then again 63 00:04:30.040 --> 00:04:31.839 not surprising if you watched it. That the Democratic Party, I guess like 64 00:04:31.879 --> 00:04:36.399 that was there Uh, oh, we're in trouble here, and I just 65 00:04:36.399 --> 00:04:40.360 don't get how you couldn't see it. Oh, same here, same here, 66 00:04:40.439 --> 00:04:44.319 I mean, And I really don't know. And again, I feel 67 00:04:44.360 --> 00:04:46.759 pretty good about how we addressed it in the first segment, and I'm trying 68 00:04:46.759 --> 00:04:49.439 not to veer away from that because I think we spent like fifteen minutes discussing 69 00:04:49.519 --> 00:04:56.040 it but really not even talking politics specifically or you know, leaning one way 70 00:04:56.120 --> 00:04:58.879 or the other, because I think you can actually discuss it without doing that, 71 00:04:58.920 --> 00:05:02.079 given that there's so much more to it with a guy who is a 72 00:05:02.120 --> 00:05:08.399 convicted felon who was the president two terms ago and now he's back in position 73 00:05:08.480 --> 00:05:13.040 to try to win when the gig back who you know, also the first 74 00:05:13.079 --> 00:05:15.399 guy who officially, you know, top to bottom, contested the election and 75 00:05:15.480 --> 00:05:19.759 doesn't accept that he lost against a guy who is just too I mean, 76 00:05:19.800 --> 00:05:26.800 like he's not I don't even think it's it's it's not even about age, 77 00:05:26.800 --> 00:05:29.319 it's more about health of him. Yeah, yeah, I was gonna say 78 00:05:29.319 --> 00:05:31.399 to say that he's not sharp because of his age, is not even doing 79 00:05:31.480 --> 00:05:38.000 it justice like he's I mean, because they're both around the same age, 80 00:05:38.120 --> 00:05:40.759 which you wouldn't be able to tell that last night if you didn't know any 81 00:05:40.800 --> 00:05:44.839 better. Yeah, And honestly, like you know Trump, I think Trump 82 00:05:45.480 --> 00:05:47.800 has probably used a lot of his money to work on his appearance where he 83 00:05:47.839 --> 00:05:53.759 doesn't look as old and Biden, you know, I guess doesn't do that. 84 00:05:53.839 --> 00:05:58.639 But like Trump looks old, Biden doesn't look like he's ancient compared to 85 00:05:58.720 --> 00:06:00.920 him, but he he acts like you know, he's just not as he's 86 00:06:00.959 --> 00:06:05.000 not as sharp. So I don't know, I don't We're not going to 87 00:06:05.040 --> 00:06:10.639 turn this into a political show. But I think in my lifetime I'm thirty 88 00:06:10.680 --> 00:06:15.839 five years old, this is the most I mean unusual circumstance I can think 89 00:06:15.879 --> 00:06:21.519 of when it comes to a presidential election to where I don't think either side 90 00:06:21.720 --> 00:06:25.879 you know, well, this is where I got to toe the line because 91 00:06:25.879 --> 00:06:30.600 I don't want to turn it into that. But like I think, I'll 92 00:06:30.639 --> 00:06:35.519 just I'll back off. There was one thing you you quite you asked a 93 00:06:35.600 --> 00:06:40.079 question earlier. It was during the first segment, and that's can they like 94 00:06:40.160 --> 00:06:44.519 switch out candidates in an emergency situation? Because and I don't know the answer 95 00:06:44.600 --> 00:06:46.800 to this, but I did talk to someone about this last line because I 96 00:06:46.879 --> 00:06:50.160 was curious. I do think it's possible to where like Joe Biden, you 97 00:06:50.319 --> 00:06:53.439 just be like, you know what, I'm gonna retire. I'm not healthy 98 00:06:53.519 --> 00:06:56.079 enough, I mean, and then just put in I don't know, Kamala 99 00:06:56.120 --> 00:07:00.480 Harris because she's the vice president. God please no, please know. I 100 00:07:00.480 --> 00:07:01.800 don't know who else they put in there? Who else would they do? 101 00:07:02.720 --> 00:07:12.160 I don't know, I don't know. And this sounds very unpatriotic and it's 102 00:07:12.199 --> 00:07:15.199 not really what I mean, But I'm just gonna say it. Who would 103 00:07:15.240 --> 00:07:18.680 want to do it like that? Who would want to do that? I 104 00:07:18.720 --> 00:07:24.759 mean, who would want to do that? I can't I mean people who 105 00:07:24.839 --> 00:07:28.360 you know, you can give you though, because they care about their country. 106 00:07:28.360 --> 00:07:30.879 And I think there's some legitimacy to that for sure, because I don't 107 00:07:30.920 --> 00:07:32.639 think you get into politics unless you do have a care. But then again, 108 00:07:32.680 --> 00:07:36.759 it turns into power, ego, status, that kind of stuff, 109 00:07:36.800 --> 00:07:42.439 and these two guys clearly along the way have have have shown that that's that's 110 00:07:42.480 --> 00:07:44.680 important to them. And I don't I don't think. I don't think that's 111 00:07:44.720 --> 00:07:47.040 unnatural. That's not even a criticism, but like, who would who would 112 00:07:47.079 --> 00:07:50.600 want to do that? I mean, again, it sounds like I'm like, 113 00:07:50.639 --> 00:07:53.839 who, you know, I don't mean just a mayor who would want 114 00:07:53.839 --> 00:07:57.399 to be the president of any country. Again, people who I guess want 115 00:07:57.439 --> 00:08:00.959 to do good and feel as if they have the you know, they're they're 116 00:08:00.959 --> 00:08:05.439 politically savvy enough to you know, do right by their country and put the 117 00:08:05.439 --> 00:08:09.759 rest of their you know there there. They're natives in a good spot and 118 00:08:09.759 --> 00:08:11.800 all that, and financially the economy all that kind of stuff. But I 119 00:08:11.800 --> 00:08:16.040 mean, to me, there's it screams like a thankless, thankless job, 120 00:08:16.360 --> 00:08:22.480 right. I mean, you're always going to be criticized. So I don't 121 00:08:22.519 --> 00:08:24.519 know where we go from here, and I don't really know where, you 122 00:08:24.560 --> 00:08:31.319 know. I mean, there's no way Biden wins the election, right But 123 00:08:31.360 --> 00:08:33.200 then again, but but then again, on the other side, I also 124 00:08:33.279 --> 00:08:37.240 can say this, and and you know, I think it's also crazy to 125 00:08:37.279 --> 00:08:39.720 think that Trump would win it, given the fact that he was just convicted 126 00:08:39.720 --> 00:08:43.639 of felonies and he you know, didn't exit the White House like any other 127 00:08:43.679 --> 00:08:48.919 president. And you know, if either side had a more coherent candidate, 128 00:08:50.240 --> 00:08:52.759 they could easily win. I feel like, yeah, I don't think that's 129 00:08:52.960 --> 00:08:58.000 untrue at all. But instead we just put In and for Donald Trump. 130 00:08:58.039 --> 00:09:00.279 You know Donald Trump, like you know, I think when it comes to 131 00:09:01.240 --> 00:09:03.440 I mean, clearly he lies about stuff, and you know, look, 132 00:09:03.480 --> 00:09:07.039 every politician lies to be honest with you. But there was a lot of 133 00:09:07.039 --> 00:09:09.960 fact checking going on with some of the things he said last night that ended 134 00:09:09.039 --> 00:09:13.759 up clearly just not being true or if anything, just misleading exaggerated. But 135 00:09:13.799 --> 00:09:16.000 you could say the same thing about Biden. I don't know what the scoreboard 136 00:09:16.039 --> 00:09:20.200 says about who was fib and the most and all that, but it goes 137 00:09:20.240 --> 00:09:26.279 both ways to an extent. But things last night that made me think to 138 00:09:26.360 --> 00:09:31.799 myself, like, there's no way Trump can be president again. It was 139 00:09:31.039 --> 00:09:35.519 it was the same things that I thought when he was becoming the president in 140 00:09:35.519 --> 00:09:41.519 twenty sixteen, and it's it's just because he's so he's so unpresidential, he's 141 00:09:41.559 --> 00:09:46.960 so unpolished, and that's just different. But I mean doesn't mean he did 142 00:09:48.000 --> 00:09:50.399 it for four years and obviously you know that came to an end. But 143 00:09:52.200 --> 00:09:58.759 because Biden just is so not really there even when he would make and I 144 00:09:58.759 --> 00:10:00.879 don't even I mean, I'm not sure he may a lot of great points. 145 00:10:00.960 --> 00:10:03.919 Last night. He did a lot of a picking and talking and jabbing 146 00:10:03.960 --> 00:10:07.919 at Trump, which I feel like is what you expect in these kind of 147 00:10:07.919 --> 00:10:09.960 things to an extent, but I feel like that's that didn't used to be 148 00:10:09.000 --> 00:10:11.519 as fastball. I think last night a lot of it was just like, 149 00:10:11.559 --> 00:10:16.440 look at this guy, he's the worst, and even if he did at 150 00:10:16.519 --> 00:10:20.919 some point makes some great point and answer to question perfectly, because of how 151 00:10:22.000 --> 00:10:28.919 just because of his situation in delivery and appearance and just age, it didn't 152 00:10:28.960 --> 00:10:31.879 sound good. It didn't sound convincing. It didn't win you over because and 153 00:10:31.879 --> 00:10:33.200 I'm saying that as somebody who is a Democrat and not saying that's who I'm 154 00:10:33.240 --> 00:10:37.200 voting for, but that's what I identify as. But again, I've voted 155 00:10:37.240 --> 00:10:41.360 for Republicans before and I'll do it again. Like I'm not somebody. I'm 156 00:10:41.360 --> 00:10:43.720 somebody that at least tries to think for myself, even when I'm not the 157 00:10:43.759 --> 00:10:48.519 most educated and knowledgeable person. But you know, like Trump, I thought 158 00:10:48.720 --> 00:10:52.720 sounded way better than he ever has. And some of it could be because 159 00:10:52.759 --> 00:10:56.200 of how he answered things and what he said and what he brought up. 160 00:10:56.200 --> 00:10:58.200 But man, I gotta be honest with you, I think a lot of 161 00:10:58.240 --> 00:11:01.840 it was because the guy sitting next to him. I mean, he looks 162 00:11:01.960 --> 00:11:03.519 like he could croak it any minute, and i'd sound I mean, I 163 00:11:03.519 --> 00:11:07.759 don't be mean, but like that's that he didn't have anything to offer as 164 00:11:07.799 --> 00:11:13.399 far as delivery. If oh Biden was it all intimidating or had some behind 165 00:11:13.440 --> 00:11:16.039 his voice, you might have seen a little more, you know, contesting 166 00:11:16.159 --> 00:11:18.679 going on from from the other side, which I think made it easy for 167 00:11:18.720 --> 00:11:24.320 Trump to look good. Look when it comes to things like this results action 168 00:11:24.559 --> 00:11:30.759 that's really what matters. Words don't matter as much. But in this position, 169 00:11:31.120 --> 00:11:35.840 like when you're debating each other trying to win votes, what you say 170 00:11:35.879 --> 00:11:37.840 matters a whole lot, but you know what, how you say it matters 171 00:11:37.879 --> 00:11:41.759 even more. And that's where no matter what Biden says and how he it, 172 00:11:41.919 --> 00:11:45.279 just it's it doesn't hit you know what I mean, like because I'm 173 00:11:45.279 --> 00:11:48.320 just thinking, like does he even know what he's saying? And I'm not 174 00:11:48.360 --> 00:11:50.919 like, I don't say that to try to make a poor attempt at a 175 00:11:50.960 --> 00:11:52.919 joke like that's just that's that's just where we are. That's the situation. 176 00:11:54.120 --> 00:11:58.240 So I know a lot of people didn't watch it because they just don't care. 177 00:11:58.399 --> 00:12:01.279 And you know, whatever I get, it would and I'm gonna tellnybody 178 00:12:01.320 --> 00:12:03.720 how to spend their time and what to watch. I know there are people 179 00:12:03.720 --> 00:12:05.639 who didn't watch it because it would make them angry, But I know people 180 00:12:05.679 --> 00:12:09.240 watched it because they're like, man, this is insane. Like people who 181 00:12:09.240 --> 00:12:11.759 don't vote because they just you know, out of sight, out of mind, 182 00:12:11.799 --> 00:12:15.279 they're just going to live their lives, stay in their lane. They 183 00:12:15.279 --> 00:12:18.639 probably were more inclined to tune in last night than ever just because of what 184 00:12:18.679 --> 00:12:22.639 we have here with these two guys being the two candidates to you know, 185 00:12:22.960 --> 00:12:28.720 to be the president of this country. Now, when you heard which you 186 00:12:28.759 --> 00:12:31.200 didn't watch a lot of it, did you? I watched it was until 187 00:12:31.240 --> 00:12:33.799 they went to the first break, which was I think about forty five minutes 188 00:12:33.840 --> 00:12:39.360 into it, when you heard Trump at times mention how bad of shape the 189 00:12:39.399 --> 00:12:45.840 country's in and how we're being mocked by others this, and that you know, 190 00:12:45.879 --> 00:12:50.279 he's doing that to highlight in his mind how poorly of a job Biden 191 00:12:50.360 --> 00:12:54.159 is doing currently as our president. Yes, but did you notice how anytime 192 00:12:54.240 --> 00:13:01.600 he would say that, Biden's first reaction wasn't to counter and dispute that, 193 00:13:01.759 --> 00:13:07.279 it was to just bring how could you say that about this great country? 194 00:13:07.679 --> 00:13:11.919 Like to me, that was like that, ain't it? Like? I 195 00:13:11.960 --> 00:13:13.639 didn't hear Trump say that and feel like, how could he talk about our 196 00:13:13.679 --> 00:13:16.320 country? Because again, I won't claim to be the most knowledgeable. In 197 00:13:16.320 --> 00:13:18.519 fact, I'm far from it when it comes to what's really going on. 198 00:13:20.360 --> 00:13:22.919 But I also know we're not in great shape. And I feel like, 199 00:13:22.120 --> 00:13:24.080 you know, I didn't feel like that was out of line for him to 200 00:13:24.080 --> 00:13:28.879 say it, yet instead of addressing that, Biden just acted like, listen 201 00:13:28.879 --> 00:13:30.879 to this guy, how could you ever have him as a president? He's 202 00:13:30.919 --> 00:13:33.919 talking about our great nation like that. The most out of line thing I 203 00:13:33.919 --> 00:13:37.519 heard last night was when Trump was asked about January sixth and he decided to 204 00:13:37.519 --> 00:13:41.240 not say anything about January sixth and talk about what was going on with the 205 00:13:41.279 --> 00:13:45.279 country outside of that at the time. And that's where he just can't help 206 00:13:45.360 --> 00:13:48.480 himself. Yeah, because he can't not have the last word, He can't 207 00:13:48.559 --> 00:13:52.679 just move on. It's a little it's almost like it's a childish thing, 208 00:13:52.720 --> 00:13:56.120 to be honest with you. Yeah, And Biden showed that last night, 209 00:13:56.159 --> 00:14:00.320 which I don't really remember ever ever seeing that before out of him at least 210 00:14:00.320 --> 00:14:01.399 not in that, you know, not to that level to where they were. 211 00:14:01.480 --> 00:14:05.200 They were both on each other's level as far as childish back and forth 212 00:14:05.240 --> 00:14:09.360 bickering. That really, I guess isn't a big surprise, but it's not 213 00:14:09.399 --> 00:14:15.840 something you typically see. Like you go back and watch previous debates in other 214 00:14:15.879 --> 00:14:20.200 election years, you'll see, you know, it's really the same thing in 215 00:14:20.240 --> 00:14:26.360 regards to like discrediting the other and you know, calling them dishonest this and 216 00:14:26.399 --> 00:14:30.600 that. But again, most people care like Trump just carries himself and delivers 217 00:14:30.600 --> 00:14:33.080 differently than most, and that doesn't necessarily mean he's terrible at it. It's 218 00:14:33.120 --> 00:14:35.480 just unusual. And then now you've got a guy who probably used to be 219 00:14:35.480 --> 00:14:37.399 a little bit more polished as a politician that you can just you know, 220 00:14:37.919 --> 00:14:41.159 not even know about his policies and what he believes, but you could just 221 00:14:41.159 --> 00:14:43.080 hear him talk and say, yeah, that sounds like a guy who's been 222 00:14:43.080 --> 00:14:45.480 in politics his whole life. But back it sound like that. Now he 223 00:14:45.519 --> 00:14:46.919 sounds like a guy who just showed up, don't know where the hell he 224 00:14:48.039 --> 00:14:50.519 is, is struggling to breathe, it look like at times, and the 225 00:14:50.559 --> 00:14:54.320 look on his face when he says things again, how he says it, 226 00:14:54.399 --> 00:15:00.200 and the look on his face when he says things has me questioning anything he 227 00:15:00.200 --> 00:15:01.639 says because I'm just like, does he know what he's saying? Like is 228 00:15:01.679 --> 00:15:05.399 he did? He forget where he was? And it's sad to be honest 229 00:15:05.440 --> 00:15:11.039 with you, and this clearly is is is has been said by others as 230 00:15:11.080 --> 00:15:16.600 a joke and it's it's not gonna happen. But to see how poorly Biden 231 00:15:16.320 --> 00:15:20.279 kind of carried himself just he just wasn't it wasn't good wasn't good night for 232 00:15:20.320 --> 00:15:22.480 him, I think anybody, regardless what you think of him, would have 233 00:15:22.519 --> 00:15:24.279 to say that that, you know, Trump aside, just look at only 234 00:15:24.279 --> 00:15:28.840 what Biden said and how he carried himself and how he presented himself, how 235 00:15:28.840 --> 00:15:33.279 he appeared. He's not in great, great shape. It looks like and 236 00:15:33.320 --> 00:15:35.039 I don't mean like you know, physically, I just mean, well, 237 00:15:35.080 --> 00:15:39.000 I guess it is physically. But to see after the fact and really the 238 00:15:39.000 --> 00:15:43.200 whole conversation nationally turned into like, damn the Democratic Party, they're probably really 239 00:15:43.240 --> 00:15:46.759 really worried now if they weren't already, I mean that that was the noise. 240 00:15:46.960 --> 00:15:50.159 And then to see Jill Biden, you know, just standing there on 241 00:15:50.279 --> 00:15:54.559 stage after the fact, Joe, you did so great at answering every question, 242 00:15:54.159 --> 00:15:56.879 you know, hyping up the crowd that was there, you know, 243 00:15:56.919 --> 00:16:02.320 after the fact. And yet he's wobbling like a Mortal Kombat figure, just 244 00:16:02.399 --> 00:16:04.440 like waiting to be just just fall over. Like it just was sad to 245 00:16:04.480 --> 00:16:07.759 see. Like people who say it's elderly abuse again, that's I don't think 246 00:16:07.799 --> 00:16:11.399 that's I mean that they're never gonna that's not gonna happen. Like, I 247 00:16:11.440 --> 00:16:14.039 don't think people are really wanting her to be charged with that. But like 248 00:16:14.080 --> 00:16:15.879 I get why people say it, like it's not that far fetched, because 249 00:16:17.600 --> 00:16:19.399 I don't know how anybody could could watch last night and feel like this guy's 250 00:16:19.440 --> 00:16:22.360 in great shape not only to be in that debate, but to run the 251 00:16:22.399 --> 00:16:26.720 country for the next four years. Like it's it's insane. But uh, 252 00:16:26.759 --> 00:16:32.000 you know, do you know how old both of them are? Just guessing? 253 00:16:32.080 --> 00:16:36.279 I looked it up early seven seventy seven, seventy eight, Trump and 254 00:16:36.360 --> 00:16:40.559 Biden is eighty one. Yeah, I knew Biden was in his eighties. 255 00:16:40.720 --> 00:16:42.679 I thought Trump I would I felt like I guessed a little older on the 256 00:16:42.720 --> 00:16:45.120 Trump side, So Trump seventy eight, Biden's eighty one? Is that you 257 00:16:45.120 --> 00:16:52.480 said yes, yeah, Biden? Apparently you know there's here's more highlights from 258 00:16:52.559 --> 00:16:56.320 last night, President Biden. You're gonna see he is six foot five and 259 00:16:56.399 --> 00:17:03.039 only two hundred and twenty thirty five five pounds. Well you said six four 260 00:17:03.200 --> 00:17:07.640 two hundred. Well anyway, that's your anyway, just take a look at 261 00:17:07.640 --> 00:17:08.960 what he says he is, and take a look at what he is. 262 00:17:10.359 --> 00:17:12.400 Look, I'd be happy to have a driving contest with him. The reama 263 00:17:12.440 --> 00:17:17.640 I got my handicap, which when I was vice president down to a six. 264 00:17:18.480 --> 00:17:22.359 And but by the way I told you before, I'm happy to play 265 00:17:22.359 --> 00:17:25.720 golf. If you carry your own bag, I think you can do it. 266 00:17:26.519 --> 00:17:29.920 That's the biggest lie. He's a six handicap, of all, I 267 00:17:29.960 --> 00:17:34.880 was an eight handicap. Eight. But I have seen this wing. I 268 00:17:34.920 --> 00:17:42.720 know you wing, President Trump. Let's not act like children. I mean, 269 00:17:44.480 --> 00:17:47.839 that had nothing to do with that's funny. That has nothing to do 270 00:17:47.880 --> 00:17:51.680 with anything about politics. But that's funny. He's whispering the whole time. 271 00:17:52.519 --> 00:17:56.680 And what did he say about I think he I'm not sure this is a 272 00:17:56.720 --> 00:18:00.880 real number. As far as what he said his weight was President by you 273 00:18:00.960 --> 00:18:03.960 can see he is six foot five and only two and twenty third found two 274 00:18:04.079 --> 00:18:07.680 hundred and thirty thirty thirty What was the twenty third? I don't know what 275 00:18:07.720 --> 00:18:12.079 he said, Biden. You can see he is six foot five and only 276 00:18:12.079 --> 00:18:17.200 two d and twenty third found twenty third, twenty thre He's six four, 277 00:18:17.200 --> 00:18:21.880 two hundred and thirty fur pounds. And in the best part is he's he's 278 00:18:21.920 --> 00:18:25.839 insinuating that Trump's fat and that he's lying about his weight, which he probably 279 00:18:25.920 --> 00:18:30.200 did. And the best like the first time Trump says something, whereas Mike's 280 00:18:30.240 --> 00:18:36.039 on his biggest lies that he's a six handicap, I was an eight handicap. 281 00:18:36.160 --> 00:18:41.400 Yeah, that's the biggest. He's a six handicap of all handicap Yeah, 282 00:18:41.720 --> 00:18:45.400 yeah, yeah. I've seen your swing. I know you swing. 283 00:18:47.480 --> 00:18:52.240 Don't act like President Trump. We're going let's not act like children swing. 284 00:18:52.640 --> 00:18:56.880 They should wheel both of them out the next PGA championship. I mean, 285 00:18:56.880 --> 00:18:59.599 we can laugh about this, right, I hope. So, I mean 286 00:19:00.319 --> 00:19:03.079 back, you and I are in the position where like we're we both understand 287 00:19:03.160 --> 00:19:07.240 the radical left and the radical right, and I feel like it's it's very 288 00:19:07.240 --> 00:19:10.920 difficult for both of us to get offended by this kind of stuff. Oh 289 00:19:11.000 --> 00:19:15.240 yeah, and this is not a silver lining or like you know, like 290 00:19:15.200 --> 00:19:18.880 this isn't good all the way around. But if there is one thing that 291 00:19:18.480 --> 00:19:22.440 I can personally and it doesn't matter to anybody else, that I can take 292 00:19:22.480 --> 00:19:26.160 from this whole situation, is that because of that clip that I just played 293 00:19:26.160 --> 00:19:30.000 for you, it's content without being political, and that's rare because usually they 294 00:19:30.000 --> 00:19:33.799 don't. You know, this is just next level. I mean, like 295 00:19:33.839 --> 00:19:37.400 that could be on a sitcom of a presidential diy. Absolutely absolutely, I 296 00:19:37.440 --> 00:19:45.279 mean it's it's crazy, crazy, crazy stuff. But again, when I 297 00:19:45.279 --> 00:19:49.559 get older, if somebody ever shares this clip with me, it'll take me 298 00:19:49.640 --> 00:19:52.920 back to last night, and I'll be reminded because I'm hopeful when I'm older 299 00:19:52.960 --> 00:19:56.960 years down the line that you know, we're in a better situation overall as 300 00:19:56.960 --> 00:20:00.799 a country, and we're not as contentious with one another or not against each 301 00:20:00.839 --> 00:20:03.680 other. We're not bickering and fighting, but just you know, we'll always 302 00:20:03.759 --> 00:20:11.559 have this and it it still amazes me that this was an exchange last night 303 00:20:11.599 --> 00:20:15.720 in a presidential debate. What what are you talking about? You have the 304 00:20:15.759 --> 00:20:19.880 morals in an alley cat man, Sir, I didn't have sex with the 305 00:20:19.920 --> 00:20:26.519 porn star. Oh my goodness. All right, let's go ahead and get 306 00:20:26.519 --> 00:20:30.319 our next break here out of the way and come back on the other side. 307 00:20:30.359 --> 00:20:33.799 Talk a little more about the takeaways from the NBA Draft, the added 308 00:20:36.440 --> 00:20:41.400 weird weird component to the Kyle Pilapowski girlfriend situation for those of you that miss 309 00:20:41.480 --> 00:20:47.680 that, And do people realize that the EA Sports College Football game like it's 310 00:20:47.759 --> 00:20:51.559 not real, Like it's a video game. People are getting pissed off about 311 00:20:51.559 --> 00:20:55.240 where their team's ranked in like the top twenty five defense. It's not real, 312 00:20:55.319 --> 00:20:59.039 folks, It's a video game. I'm not trying to rain on the 313 00:20:59.079 --> 00:21:00.359 parade. I've never seen a video can get this much hype. But like, 314 00:21:02.920 --> 00:21:06.119 are we are? We are we worried about our team because of what 315 00:21:06.160 --> 00:21:10.079 EA Sports said about our offensive unit or deef. I get it's a video 316 00:21:10.200 --> 00:21:14.160 game. It's a Friday too, so stick with us right here. Coffee 317 00:21:14.200 --> 00:21:18.839 and Company. Feel about Thorton's on Sports Talk seven ninety. I feel like 318 00:21:18.920 --> 00:21:23.000 it's been a while since I was was able to get a Friday afternoon with 319 00:21:23.039 --> 00:21:27.000 that, with that phenomenal song which just felt like a while. I'm sure 320 00:21:27.079 --> 00:21:30.400 a lot of people don't consider it a phenomenal song, but I do. 321 00:21:30.440 --> 00:21:33.960 And I think the one the only company man John Alden, for playing that 322 00:21:33.000 --> 00:21:37.240 for me. That's really when my weekend starts. Once you when she when 323 00:21:37.279 --> 00:21:41.079 she give me that that good vibe song. All right, So the NBA 324 00:21:41.200 --> 00:21:45.119 draft concluded yesterday, and I did feel like a real feelt more more like 325 00:21:45.160 --> 00:21:48.200 a dumb ass than I usually do, just because I had no clue why 326 00:21:48.200 --> 00:21:52.240 would they do the draft this way, And what it turned out to be 327 00:21:52.319 --> 00:21:55.119 is because of the of the presidential debate. It's always the last week of 328 00:21:55.200 --> 00:21:56.680 June, and this year there's a presidential debate. It was gonna be on 329 00:21:56.720 --> 00:22:00.039 Thursday, and they made the decision to have the first round on a Wednesday 330 00:22:00.960 --> 00:22:06.799 because they didn't want to go head to head with the presidential election. And 331 00:22:06.920 --> 00:22:10.039 I guess the one thing I don't understands why not just do both both rounds 332 00:22:10.079 --> 00:22:12.279 the same night like you typically have done, because doing the second round yesterday 333 00:22:12.319 --> 00:22:18.559 during the day was just weird. But Bronnie James gets drafted, and that 334 00:22:18.640 --> 00:22:22.240 has been easily the most talked about thing among I mean, really, I 335 00:22:22.279 --> 00:22:25.799 think that's probably the most talked about a thing in the draft overall, to 336 00:22:25.799 --> 00:22:30.079 be honest with you, just because of the top two picks or guys most 337 00:22:30.079 --> 00:22:32.519 people aren't super familiar with. I mean, there's other talking points, no 338 00:22:32.559 --> 00:22:38.160 doubt about it, but Lebron James now being teammates with his son is a 339 00:22:38.240 --> 00:22:41.160 huge story. Not a surprise. I think we kind of saw this coming. 340 00:22:42.119 --> 00:22:45.920 And despite it being the most talked about thing from this draft, I 341 00:22:45.920 --> 00:22:48.759 don't think that many people really give a damn unless you're a Lakers fan or 342 00:22:48.759 --> 00:22:52.759 a Lebron fan. Like you know, it's not something people really care about. 343 00:22:52.799 --> 00:22:55.839 But get used to it. If you already have fatigue of the Lebron 344 00:22:55.839 --> 00:23:00.000 and Bronni teaming up in LA story, it's not going anywhere. In fact, 345 00:23:00.319 --> 00:23:02.720 I think that's going to be the most talked about thing and it's not 346 00:23:02.759 --> 00:23:04.599 even close at the Summer League, and you know, he'll make his debut 347 00:23:04.640 --> 00:23:07.599 and they'll be so much hype around it, and it's really not fair to 348 00:23:07.680 --> 00:23:11.799 him, you know. I think most people would love to have that kind 349 00:23:11.799 --> 00:23:15.680 of attention, But with that attention comes pressure and expectation, and I'm just 350 00:23:15.759 --> 00:23:19.400 curious if is it going to play out to where like, if Bronny plays 351 00:23:19.519 --> 00:23:25.559 limited minutes in the Summer League and has you know, nine points and five 352 00:23:25.640 --> 00:23:32.200 boards, is it going to be viewed as, Hey, that's pretty good. 353 00:23:32.240 --> 00:23:33.880 You know, I thought the kid sucked, or is it going to 354 00:23:33.960 --> 00:23:37.119 be Wow, that's all Lebron's kid. I mean, you're going to get 355 00:23:37.160 --> 00:23:40.759 reaction from from all all angles when it comes to that that overall situation. 356 00:23:40.839 --> 00:23:45.519 But I continue to say that Lebron James's son has handled himself really as good 357 00:23:45.559 --> 00:23:49.960 as you possibly could throughout this situation, and he doesn't seem to be bothered 358 00:23:51.000 --> 00:23:55.400 by any of it. But it also feels weird, like painting him is 359 00:23:55.400 --> 00:23:56.480 like a victim, you know what I mean, John, because like he's 360 00:23:56.599 --> 00:24:00.200 I mean, he'll never need money, Like he's very pre villig Lebron James 361 00:24:00.200 --> 00:24:04.720 son. But you know he's going to be a punchline and that's that's inevitable 362 00:24:04.759 --> 00:24:11.160 and that would always be the case, always, and nothing can do about 363 00:24:11.200 --> 00:24:15.480 it. But I did love our man Rob Cassidy of Rivals, who comes 364 00:24:15.519 --> 00:24:18.440 and joins us on the show from time to time to talk high school basketball 365 00:24:18.440 --> 00:24:22.559 recruiting, and he covered Bronni And I know guys who cover recruiting that don't 366 00:24:22.559 --> 00:24:26.480 care for Lebron, that love Bronnie because Lebronni's always been, i mean, 367 00:24:26.960 --> 00:24:32.160 respectful and just seems like a good kid. But I'll read directly from Rob 368 00:24:32.200 --> 00:24:36.799 Cassidy's tweet because it's it's spot on in my opinion. This is this is 369 00:24:37.160 --> 00:24:40.200 what he said. I hope Bronnie James is a great NBA player one day, 370 00:24:40.200 --> 00:24:41.759 but whatever happens with him, the one thing I never want to hear 371 00:24:41.839 --> 00:24:47.920 from Dad is that the media put unrealistic expectations on him or whatever because he 372 00:24:48.000 --> 00:24:52.279 did it himself, saying lebron did himself and that's true. Like last year 373 00:24:52.559 --> 00:24:56.880 in March, Lebron James tweeted, man, Bronni definitely better than some of 374 00:24:56.920 --> 00:25:03.279 these cats I've been watching on league past at a lightweight, hilarious, A 375 00:25:03.319 --> 00:25:08.000 bunch of laughing emojis, like, Because here's what's gonna happen. There's going 376 00:25:08.079 --> 00:25:12.599 to continue to be a lot of noise about Bronny. There'll be many people 377 00:25:14.400 --> 00:25:18.079 criticizing the Lakers for making the pick. He'll either not play much or if 378 00:25:18.079 --> 00:25:21.440 he does play, he's probably not going to make a huge impact and Lebron 379 00:25:21.519 --> 00:25:26.079 will do what most fathers would do defend their kid, which is unusual. 380 00:25:26.119 --> 00:25:27.720 You don't usually, I mean you see teammates defending teammates. This is a 381 00:25:27.720 --> 00:25:32.480 different element here. This is his son. Like really, it's a conflict 382 00:25:32.480 --> 00:25:33.599 of interest for them to even be on the same team, if I'm being 383 00:25:33.640 --> 00:25:37.440 honest with you. It's one thing for brothers. This is his father. 384 00:25:37.119 --> 00:25:41.079 Yeah, this is a nepotism. Oh yeah, I mean absolutely, But 385 00:25:41.200 --> 00:25:44.400 you know, Lebron is not the boss. I mean he is, but 386 00:25:44.440 --> 00:25:45.160 he's not, you know what I mean, Like Lebron didn't draft him, 387 00:25:45.160 --> 00:25:49.720 although he he's pulling the strings. But Lebron will tell people to chill out 388 00:25:49.759 --> 00:25:55.839 and quit being so hard on his son and expecting too much too early, 389 00:25:55.880 --> 00:26:00.799 when again, even Lebron said that his son a year ago it was already 390 00:26:00.799 --> 00:26:07.799 better than guys in the league. So even though we know what's coming with 391 00:26:07.839 --> 00:26:12.720 this, it's still just annoying to know that we're going to go through that. 392 00:26:12.880 --> 00:26:18.680 And I go back to what I said a minute ago, like unless 393 00:26:18.680 --> 00:26:21.640 you're a Laker fan or a big Lebron fan, like I don't think many 394 00:26:21.680 --> 00:26:26.720 people care, Like this is not a significant thing within the NBA. Yet 395 00:26:26.799 --> 00:26:30.799 it's gonna be shoved in our face for a long, long time. All 396 00:26:30.920 --> 00:26:34.839 right. So one other draft story that we've talked about over the last couple 397 00:26:34.880 --> 00:26:38.039 of days, and there's there's new layers to it that make it even more 398 00:26:38.039 --> 00:26:41.720 weird. I think that's the best way to describe the Kyle Filapaski situation. 399 00:26:41.759 --> 00:26:48.400 It's just weird. So to quickly run down the overall situation here, he 400 00:26:48.440 --> 00:26:51.720 did not get drafted in the first round, which was a big surprise. 401 00:26:51.759 --> 00:26:53.720 Kayle F Lapaski was a top five player in the country coming out of Duke, 402 00:26:55.079 --> 00:26:56.559 was a was a really good freshman, came back as a sophomore at 403 00:26:56.599 --> 00:27:00.359 Duke and was a good player. Didn't quite reach expectations. He didn't have 404 00:27:00.400 --> 00:27:03.759 the All American type season everybody expected. But still he's a seven footer with 405 00:27:03.839 --> 00:27:06.960 great skill, a lot of tools, and he was invited in the green 406 00:27:07.000 --> 00:27:08.799 room because the expectation was that he was going to be a top twenty pick, 407 00:27:08.839 --> 00:27:11.359 maybe a lottery pick, and he slipped out of the first round. 408 00:27:11.720 --> 00:27:15.599 Well. One of the NBA draft analysts for ESPN said in a podcast yesterday 409 00:27:15.680 --> 00:27:19.079 leading up to the second round that he didn't have good workouts and that he 410 00:27:19.079 --> 00:27:22.799 didn't do great in interviews, but he's still super skilled. But the one 411 00:27:22.799 --> 00:27:26.759 thing that keeps coming up. In fact, he said twenty five different teams 412 00:27:26.799 --> 00:27:30.599 brought it up about Filipowski's they have concerns about him because of his girlfriend. 413 00:27:30.279 --> 00:27:33.759 And that was really all that Giovanni said, outside of his girlfriend being a 414 00:27:33.759 --> 00:27:37.559 little older than him. Well that led people doing some digging and turns out 415 00:27:37.559 --> 00:27:41.240 his girlfriend is eight or nine years older than him, which isn't crazy, 416 00:27:42.240 --> 00:27:48.720 but it's you know, the relationship started when he was a child, Like 417 00:27:48.799 --> 00:27:52.440 technically he wasn't a little kid, but like I think seventeen sixteen years old 418 00:27:52.480 --> 00:27:56.880 is what his mother says his age was whenever these two became, I guess 419 00:27:56.960 --> 00:28:03.440 romantically involved. So the NBA knows of this, and the NBA also, 420 00:28:03.759 --> 00:28:07.200 I guess knows that he has kind of like shunned his family. He doesn't 421 00:28:07.240 --> 00:28:11.279 speak to his family anymore. And you know, there's always context that we 422 00:28:11.319 --> 00:28:14.319 don't know about people's family situations, but that's still a red flag and you'd 423 00:28:14.319 --> 00:28:17.039 want to get some information, and I'm sure they reached out to get information 424 00:28:17.079 --> 00:28:21.319 as far as how that happened, and they told him, like, I 425 00:28:21.359 --> 00:28:23.440 mean, they probably didn't help their family member, their son, their brother. 426 00:28:23.519 --> 00:28:27.000 But like when NBA people are doing some digging to figure out why he's 427 00:28:27.039 --> 00:28:32.200 not with his family anymore, they were probably gladly. They were probably happy 428 00:28:32.240 --> 00:28:34.839 to tell the NBA folks it's because this woman, she's kind of taken him 429 00:28:34.839 --> 00:28:37.319 away from us. And here's where you know that alone is kind of weird 430 00:28:37.319 --> 00:28:41.359 that she started dating him when he was a kid and she was twenty five 431 00:28:41.440 --> 00:28:44.559 years old. Twenty four years old. Again, as I said earlier, 432 00:28:44.599 --> 00:28:47.680 imagine if the roles were reversed and it was a man that was twenty four 433 00:28:47.720 --> 00:28:49.680 or twenty five and the girl was sixteen or seventeen, like that would never 434 00:28:49.720 --> 00:28:55.960 be allowed to happen. But what makes it even more weird is that she 435 00:28:55.960 --> 00:29:00.599 she was his babysitter when he was a little kid, and it's just hard 436 00:29:00.640 --> 00:29:03.839 not to see a scenario where she saw this young. I mean, he's 437 00:29:03.240 --> 00:29:07.799 she probably changes diaper, and she's attractive. She was probably attractive when she 438 00:29:07.880 --> 00:29:10.359 was his babysitter, and maybe he had a crush on her or something. 439 00:29:10.400 --> 00:29:12.000 You could just see her taking advantage of that, knowing this guy's gonna be 440 00:29:12.000 --> 00:29:15.400 a millionaire. He's a basketball phenom at the time. Again, he was 441 00:29:15.440 --> 00:29:19.880 a top five player in the country. So this young kid at the time 442 00:29:21.039 --> 00:29:23.799 she started a romantic relationship with when he was in high school and she was 443 00:29:23.839 --> 00:29:29.200 graduated from college for a few years. And the mother claims it was all 444 00:29:29.240 --> 00:29:30.920 because she knows he's going to be rich, he's going to be in the 445 00:29:32.039 --> 00:29:36.960 NBA, and that's I mean, that'll that's just you know, that's weird. 446 00:29:37.680 --> 00:29:40.880 It'd be different if like they connected randomly. But the fact that she 447 00:29:41.039 --> 00:29:42.960 was his babysitter as a kid is what makes it weird to me. But 448 00:29:44.000 --> 00:29:47.920 also she's Mormon. That's not weird, that's not that uncommon. But she's 449 00:29:48.400 --> 00:29:49.559 for her to I guess because of her family. For her to be able 450 00:29:49.599 --> 00:29:52.880 to be with him, he has to be Mormon. So I guess if 451 00:29:52.920 --> 00:29:56.839 there's some kind of conversion that can take place to where you're a more like, 452 00:29:56.880 --> 00:29:59.759 that's what their family, that's what she's trying to do, is convert 453 00:29:59.839 --> 00:30:03.519 him to be a Mormon. And it's sad for his family, and it's 454 00:30:03.559 --> 00:30:06.559 really sad for him. Like he's a grown up, he can make his 455 00:30:06.559 --> 00:30:08.720 own decisions. I'm sure he does love this woman, but it's hard not 456 00:30:08.759 --> 00:30:14.240 to question her legitimate intentions when you really look at the story from top to 457 00:30:14.279 --> 00:30:17.720 bottom. But yes, John, you said it best him getting drafted by 458 00:30:17.799 --> 00:30:19.720 Utah, Like I mean that the joke writes itself, Like no, it's 459 00:30:19.880 --> 00:30:22.960 I mean, it's terrible. Well, here's the thing too, that's also 460 00:30:22.079 --> 00:30:25.880 kind of a silver lining. He's still young, and we talked about this 461 00:30:25.920 --> 00:30:27.880 earlier too. If he can, he has time to kind of figure out 462 00:30:27.920 --> 00:30:32.039 that this could be a mess for him and get himself out of the situation. 463 00:30:32.880 --> 00:30:38.359 It absolutely, absolutely could be a situation where the attention to this story 464 00:30:38.440 --> 00:30:41.319 is getting might make a light bulb go off for him right to where he 465 00:30:41.359 --> 00:30:47.759 thinks, all right, this is weird and this has impacted Like he's probably 466 00:30:47.759 --> 00:30:49.960 not just gonna cut her off, but like from a professional standpoint, he 467 00:30:51.000 --> 00:30:53.759 does need to let I guess his employer know the jazz, Like that's not 468 00:30:53.759 --> 00:30:56.160 gonna be an issue, Like, you know, I'm my own man, 469 00:30:57.039 --> 00:31:00.839 you know I'm gonna do what I need to do. I'm now an employee 470 00:31:00.839 --> 00:31:03.559 of yours, And despite this being a story, you know, maybe he 471 00:31:03.559 --> 00:31:07.759 can provide some context that would make it make a little more sense. And 472 00:31:07.799 --> 00:31:10.799 surely there's things we don't know that might make it not as weird. But 473 00:31:11.200 --> 00:31:17.720 I'm telling you when I when I when I saw the babysitter thing like that, 474 00:31:17.720 --> 00:31:21.359 that made it really weird for me because again I'm thinking of you know, 475 00:31:21.440 --> 00:31:23.480 she's been around him since he was a little kid, Like you have 476 00:31:23.519 --> 00:31:26.240 a babysitter. I mean, I don't know, do you remember how old 477 00:31:26.240 --> 00:31:29.480 you were when you had a babysitter or did you ever have babysitters? I 478 00:31:29.480 --> 00:31:32.440 didn't have them very often, and it was it was it wasn't like a 479 00:31:33.000 --> 00:31:37.319 consistent thing. It was very rare occasions. So I feel like when my 480 00:31:37.799 --> 00:31:41.839 mother and father no longer needed somebody to watch me and my sister. My 481 00:31:41.880 --> 00:31:44.440 sister's a year older than me, and she's always been, you know, 482 00:31:44.480 --> 00:31:49.680 the more responsible one, So it was around probably gosh, I don't know, 483 00:31:49.720 --> 00:31:52.640 I don't it's probably changed since then, But I don't feel like my 484 00:31:52.640 --> 00:31:57.440 mom left us home alone. We were little bitty kids. But like I 485 00:31:57.440 --> 00:32:01.079 wouldn't even really know what age are going raid, but it was usually other 486 00:32:01.240 --> 00:32:04.599 family members. Yeah, yeah, yeah, fine, So my cousin, 487 00:32:04.799 --> 00:32:07.279 my older cousins who you know, were and now that we're older. Like, 488 00:32:07.359 --> 00:32:09.160 they don't seem like they're that much older than me, you know what 489 00:32:09.200 --> 00:32:12.799 I mean. But they were probably like five, six seven years older than 490 00:32:12.839 --> 00:32:16.319 me. They would babysit me because you know, whenever I was seven, 491 00:32:16.759 --> 00:32:21.400 you know, they were twelve or thirteen old enough to watch, you know, 492 00:32:21.480 --> 00:32:25.319 a kid. So that just makes it weird to me. But you 493 00:32:25.359 --> 00:32:28.880 know, he's gonna be asked about it, right, like that one guy 494 00:32:28.960 --> 00:32:30.960 we played yesterday wants to put him on his podcast and talk to him about 495 00:32:30.960 --> 00:32:35.640 it. Who the Oh yeah, I don't know. I mean I think 496 00:32:35.680 --> 00:32:37.680 he did it. I think that was before I mean that was Zach low 497 00:32:37.759 --> 00:32:43.200 But that's before this became a story. Like he he Zach Lowe responding to 498 00:32:43.240 --> 00:32:50.720 Giovanni actually really got this thing rolling because when mentioning all the things that could 499 00:32:50.759 --> 00:32:53.720 have potentially kept him from being drafted, they mentioned the fact that he didn't 500 00:32:53.720 --> 00:32:57.559 do great in the workouts and his interviews were a little little we're a little 501 00:32:57.559 --> 00:33:00.759 shaky, and his girlfriend and then that's when Zach Lowe is like, what 502 00:33:00.759 --> 00:33:02.519 do you mean his girlfriend? And then it just his girlfriend's a little older, 503 00:33:02.559 --> 00:33:05.920 and every team's bringing it up. He's like, wait, what and 504 00:33:05.960 --> 00:33:08.680 then it turned into where like people did a little digging and his parents or 505 00:33:08.720 --> 00:33:13.319 his mother and his brother saw that it was getting a lot of attention online, 506 00:33:13.839 --> 00:33:17.000 and they, you know, were not afraid to share their side of 507 00:33:17.039 --> 00:33:20.559 it, at least, you know, without I mean, they didn't. 508 00:33:20.559 --> 00:33:22.839 I mean, I'm sure he wouldn't have liked them to have said that, 509 00:33:22.880 --> 00:33:24.200 but I don't feel like they said anything crazy. They were just you know, 510 00:33:24.759 --> 00:33:29.160 I mean, if he's truly cut them off the way that it's been 511 00:33:29.240 --> 00:33:32.599 portrayed, I don't blame the parents or the sibling for saying something online about 512 00:33:32.599 --> 00:33:37.839 it messed up, all right. So I don't have a whole lot of 513 00:33:37.319 --> 00:33:43.400 strong reaction to Justin Edward's not getting drafted because he wasn't very good at Kentucky 514 00:33:44.240 --> 00:33:46.440 and there was really no expectation he would be drafted. I don't think, 515 00:33:46.480 --> 00:33:49.640 I mean, I guess he was mentioned towards the end of the draft, 516 00:33:49.680 --> 00:33:52.000 like Trenton Flowers, one of those guys that was with four picks left, 517 00:33:52.039 --> 00:33:54.279 they're still showing you the ten best available, and I think he was in 518 00:33:54.319 --> 00:33:58.440 there. But Justin Edwards didn't get drafted, which again I didn't expect him 519 00:33:58.440 --> 00:34:00.359 to be drafted, but to know that he is. According to the twenty 520 00:34:00.400 --> 00:34:07.400 four to seven Sports Rankings, he is the first ever top three recruit to 521 00:34:07.480 --> 00:34:10.599 go undrafted. I mean, and this guy did a little digging here and 522 00:34:12.119 --> 00:34:16.239 found and found all of the I mean, let me see if I can 523 00:34:16.239 --> 00:34:20.199 find the actual Yeah, so you know, you go back to you know, 524 00:34:20.360 --> 00:34:22.480 I'll just get not gonna run through it since twenty or since two thousand 525 00:34:22.519 --> 00:34:25.960 and three, but just the last you know, five six years. In 526 00:34:27.119 --> 00:34:31.320 twenty twenty two, Nick Smith was the number one player in America. He 527 00:34:31.440 --> 00:34:35.360 ends up going twenty seventh in the draft. He was injured. If you 528 00:34:35.400 --> 00:34:37.960 remember at Arkansas, he didn't play much because he was injured. Dreake White 529 00:34:37.960 --> 00:34:39.599 had went twenty fifth. I forgot about him. Was he a duke? 530 00:34:39.639 --> 00:34:44.199 I think he was due? And then Derek Lively was went twelfth in the 531 00:34:44.239 --> 00:34:46.039 draft. He was the third best player. In twenty twenty one, Chet 532 00:34:46.039 --> 00:34:49.639 Holmgren was the number one player. He went second in the draft. Pollo 533 00:34:49.760 --> 00:34:52.280 was the number two player in the in the class went number one, and 534 00:34:52.280 --> 00:34:55.440 then Shade and Sharp was the seventh best was the third best player and he 535 00:34:55.480 --> 00:35:01.360 went seventh. Kate Cunningham number one pick number one player, Jalen Green number 536 00:35:01.360 --> 00:35:07.320 two, pick number two player, Jalen Evan Mobley number three, pick number 537 00:35:07.320 --> 00:35:08.840 three player in the class. So that went one, two three. James 538 00:35:08.880 --> 00:35:12.599 Wiseman, number one player, went second overall. Anthony Edwards, number two 539 00:35:12.599 --> 00:35:15.320 player, went number one overall. Isaiah Stewart was the number three player. 540 00:35:15.360 --> 00:35:17.000 He went number sixteen. To go back even further, R. J. 541 00:35:17.119 --> 00:35:21.039 Barrett, he was the number one player in America. He went number three. 542 00:35:21.119 --> 00:35:23.119 Cam Reddish was the number two player. He went tenth. Nasir Little 543 00:35:23.559 --> 00:35:25.960 went to Carolina, he was the number three player he went. He went 544 00:35:27.000 --> 00:35:29.039 to the twenty he went twenty fifth. So even if you have it like, 545 00:35:29.119 --> 00:35:32.239 let me just give you an example. Nick Smith certainly fits within that. 546 00:35:32.320 --> 00:35:42.679 Within that category, Derek Whitehead, Nasir Little certainly was not nearly as 547 00:35:42.719 --> 00:35:45.239 good as a freshman as everybody thought he would be, despite being the number 548 00:35:45.239 --> 00:35:47.679 three player in the country. So bring it up to say, Excalabasia, 549 00:35:47.719 --> 00:35:52.599 he was a bust at Kentucky stunk, but he was the number number two 550 00:35:52.599 --> 00:35:54.320 player in America. Yet he still went in the first round at pick number 551 00:35:54.320 --> 00:35:58.599 twenty eight. So when you look at these numbers, it really is insane. 552 00:35:58.639 --> 00:36:02.239 To think he could be highly that that highly regarded and not even sniff 553 00:36:02.280 --> 00:36:07.079 the draft, and nobody's really to blame here. I think, if anything, 554 00:36:07.320 --> 00:36:09.480 it's just an unfortunate circumstance. Yeah, the recruiting guys were wrong, 555 00:36:10.480 --> 00:36:15.280 for sure, but he you know that happens from time to time, but 556 00:36:15.360 --> 00:36:19.199 not to this level to where you could be that wrong. Because I guess, 557 00:36:19.280 --> 00:36:21.800 more than anything, it shows because some of these guys, like Harry 558 00:36:21.840 --> 00:36:24.679 Giles was the number three player in the country in twenty sixteen and injuries got 559 00:36:24.679 --> 00:36:30.440 in his way, but he still ended up going in the top twenty of 560 00:36:30.440 --> 00:36:35.360 that draft. So I'm sure they do their own homework. They evaluate players. 561 00:36:35.400 --> 00:36:37.760 They're not basing it only off rankings, but there's got to be at 562 00:36:37.840 --> 00:36:39.920 least some level to where they do. Trust. Hey, if twenty four 563 00:36:39.960 --> 00:36:44.599 to seven sports they say this guy is a top five player, that means 564 00:36:44.599 --> 00:36:47.119 something. Because a lot of those names I just threw out there, Yeah 565 00:36:47.119 --> 00:36:52.000 you could still see I guess, some potential, but you know it was 566 00:36:52.760 --> 00:36:55.000 it was quite clear that they weren't as good as advertise. Yet they still 567 00:36:55.000 --> 00:36:58.679 go first round, which the first round pick is a big investment. Folks 568 00:36:58.719 --> 00:37:05.440 like that's that's and then that's every year, unless trades happened or whatever the 569 00:37:05.559 --> 00:37:08.559 NBA. Each NBA team's got one first round investment, and that's that's somebody 570 00:37:08.559 --> 00:37:15.119 that they're investing in to help their franchise. So you know, to still 571 00:37:15.639 --> 00:37:20.480 invest in somebody that in one year in college you know still has potential, 572 00:37:20.480 --> 00:37:22.159 but yet they were so underwhelming compared to what the hype was, Like I 573 00:37:22.159 --> 00:37:25.159 don't know, Like, for example, Aaron Bradshaw was one of the top 574 00:37:25.159 --> 00:37:30.480 five players in the country last year coming into college. He still has potential. 575 00:37:30.599 --> 00:37:32.239 He may be pretty good at Ohio State, but what do I know. 576 00:37:32.239 --> 00:37:35.440 I'm not working in the NBA as a scout or as a GM, 577 00:37:35.800 --> 00:37:38.199 but I feel like I've seen enough to know that that was a dramatically overrated 578 00:37:38.199 --> 00:37:42.960 player, Like what is his tool? What is he doing that that gives 579 00:37:43.000 --> 00:37:45.400 the NBA a lot of value? He's big, athletic, but he doesn't 580 00:37:45.400 --> 00:37:50.079 finish great, he doesn't have great hands, He's fragile already. He's not 581 00:37:50.119 --> 00:37:52.960 a shooter like you know, Yet it wouldn't be shocked if next year at 582 00:37:53.000 --> 00:37:55.800 Ohio State he puts up you know, nine to eight and somebody takes him 583 00:37:55.800 --> 00:38:00.280 in the first round like that's not uncommon, and usually more often than not 584 00:38:00.360 --> 00:38:04.519 it ends up being a pretty bad investment. But maybe the tide turns here 585 00:38:04.559 --> 00:38:07.400 because justin Edwards, I mean, a year ago, no way, he 586 00:38:07.400 --> 00:38:09.440 thought this was how it would play out. All right, quick break, 587 00:38:09.440 --> 00:38:12.239 we'll come back on the other side, wrap it up right here on Sports 588 00:38:12.280 --> 00:38:16.400 Talk seven ninety. It's right, we were wrapping things up here, finishing 589 00:38:16.440 --> 00:38:20.840 up another week of coffee and company, getting you set for the week and 590 00:38:20.840 --> 00:38:23.039 hopefully by now you've you've you set yourself for the weekend and you're ready to 591 00:38:23.119 --> 00:38:25.199 rock and roll. You got to big plans this weekend, John, I 592 00:38:25.280 --> 00:38:29.559 don't That's good, isn't it It is? I mean, we've already had 593 00:38:29.559 --> 00:38:32.239 our vacation for the summer. My wife, she's actually coming back from being 594 00:38:32.239 --> 00:38:36.199 in Michigan all week, so well, it'll be good to reconnect with with 595 00:38:36.199 --> 00:38:37.519 with moll. I'm sure. I'm sure you guys missed each other. So 596 00:38:37.599 --> 00:38:40.199 yeah, good to be good to get her back in town. Yeah, 597 00:38:40.239 --> 00:38:43.679 I mentioned it earlier. This is the first weekend in a long time where 598 00:38:43.679 --> 00:38:46.480 I have literally nothing planned, which at times is good. I'm sure. 599 00:38:46.480 --> 00:38:49.960 I mean, I'm not gonna do nothing. Even if I wanted to, 600 00:38:49.960 --> 00:38:52.800 that wouldn't be possible with my kids, they wouldn't let me. But yeah, 601 00:38:52.880 --> 00:38:54.480 no big plans, just kind of relax. And then next week we've 602 00:38:54.480 --> 00:38:58.920 got a holiday week, fourth of July, four day weekend. And I 603 00:38:58.920 --> 00:39:01.800 said that like a real rednet four with the July got the best of me. 604 00:39:02.000 --> 00:39:06.320 And I'm just I don't want to jinx it, but I want to 605 00:39:06.360 --> 00:39:10.039 give everybody some kudos here because we're a week away from fourth of July, 606 00:39:10.159 --> 00:39:15.639 less than a week, I guess, and thank you because in where I 607 00:39:15.679 --> 00:39:17.400 live, I've not heard any fireworks yet. Like usually it's a whole month 608 00:39:17.400 --> 00:39:21.440 of June, they light them off all through a couple of nights. You'll 609 00:39:21.480 --> 00:39:22.480 be come over and set them straight. Do it. I'll do it. 610 00:39:22.760 --> 00:39:25.480 I'm not scared. All right. You have a good weekend, sir, 611 00:39:25.679 --> 00:39:29.440 You too, You guys everybody listening out there, have a good weekend as 612 00:39:29.480 --> 00:39:32.079 well. Come back and join us on Monday afternoon right here. Coffee and 613 00:39:32.079 --> 00:39:40.719 Company. Philby Thornton's on Sports Talk seven ninety