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on the Ball. Hey, welcome
back to I the Ball here Fox Sports

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fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera,
you're Jagan Zawis, and I'm hoping you

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have some breaking news. This is
I on the Ball Breaking news on Fox

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Sports fourteen fifty. Well, I
don't have anything as earth shattering. It

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is what we've had the last few
days, last couple of days, you

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know, Belichick and Saban and whatnot. But the rumor, miil or call

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it, the speculation is churning like
crazy on particularly on the Alabama job.

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Caitlin de boor Washington is a name
that's popping up on everybody's list, as

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is Mike Norbel at Florida State.
So let me ask you something. In

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a job like this high profile,
as it is probably the most high profile

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job, do you need a guy
who's dynamic, dynamic in a personality dynamic

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way or you need to do because
the board doesn't have that personality. Did

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you consider Nick Saban dynamic? He
had he had bags that made him dynamic.

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I think you didn't know what I'm
saying. He's he's kind a name

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to him. The board, you
didn't know who he wasn't he didn't have

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it when he got there, did
he? I don't know. I think

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they over time he became AFRAC,
you know, I know he had won

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an after championship, then he went
and did that NFL thing came back.

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It took him a while to get
good. That they got good, So

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it took a while for him to
become I don't know what Nick Saban is

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today. I don't know because I
wasn't paying attention enough back in the day.

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Right well, I mean either.
But that's how I remember it,

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because I don't feel like when they
hired him, I didn't go, oh,

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no college foot pollit in trouble because
he's gonna be so good. That's

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why I would think that. Uh. And and he probably he said he's

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not gonna do it. Is the
Kiffin situation where he's that guy, you

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know, the prodigal son comes home. His name isn't opping up a bunch.

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Uh. Mike Norvell is an interesting
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going on, you know, as
John Willard, you know, said on

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the show a little bit ago,
the ACC may be disbanding and Florida State's

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in the middle of that, and
there's a lot of uncertainty is what Florida

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State might be down the road.
Steve Sarkisian another another name because he coached

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you know, UH under under under
UH saving and you know, look,

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here's the here's the thing about the
Alabama job. It's the top job.

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It's even above Georgia, it's above
Michigan, it's above a hostain. Yeah,

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you know, you can go.
You can be looking for a coach

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at Alabama and you can look at
any school you want, right, and

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nobody's gonna say, oh, he
would never leave Georgia for Alabama. He

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would never leave Michigan for Alabama.
He would never leave Ohio State. From

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Alabama's you know, is the top, so it can it can go.

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Everything else is below them from from
a job standpoint, so they can go

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after whoever they want. Sure,
it's it's whether the guy decides, Okay,

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I want to stay or not go
or go? Right, But it

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was two four seven Sports is reporting
that the Football Scoop is reporting that that

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de boor Mike Norval and Tommy Rees, who is the the offensive coordinator who

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came over from Notre Dame this last
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who knows what's going there, but
we're gonna use that anyways. And that

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sources have said that Greg byrne It
says Burne has told the program and others

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within the athletics department that he intends
the name Saban's replacement by the end of

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this week. Wow, you know
when that is tomorrow or Saturday? Yeah,

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Sunday. Just for just for say
purposes. On kind of a funny

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note, Uh, there's there's pictures
circulating of the of the Nick Sabans statue

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outside the stadium. You'd think he
died. The flowers, yeah, and

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candy and coke coke cans, because
you know he's a cold guy. I

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see ducks out there. I see
a bag of ice. I guess that

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means he's the ice man, and
flag ducks, pictures, pom poms,

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a big sign that says goat some
balloons. I get, well, balloon,

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I mean he's not sick. Well
he actually said that to me.

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Hes got some healthy but you know, he's fun. He's he's not dying.

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Again again, this is this.
I will ask any of this a

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question that we continue to ask in
fun. How old is old? Yeah?

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When he was talking today and I
saw the quick clip with with three

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Davis, I'm thinking seventy two.
He won, he doesn't look seventy two.

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Uh and uh isn't seventy two the
new sixty two? Yeah? Yeah,

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I guess I know. Even to
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is sixty for me. Well,
okay, So anyways, next up,

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Dave. He sat on his Wildcat
Wednesday yesterday, and I read the first

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two sections, but then I didn't
go next down to the financial plan.

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Did he bury the league? He
buried the league because he talked about how

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great football Yeah, sure of course, talking about how bikes basketball is doing.

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Then he went into financial stuff and
in bold letters, and Justin Spears

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just posted a story on this,
which is how I found it because I

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didn't read. I get the Wildcat
wednes and I didn't read it. He

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says. Athletics. Arizona Athletics has
no immediate plans to eliminate sports. The

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Athletics department will continue the hiring freezer
instituted this fall. All new major construction

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projects will be paused after after the
completion of the William M. Bill Clements

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Golf Center. Yeah right, so
did you. I'm sure you saw this.

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And this is not sports related,
but it's it was all related with

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the present with the CFO, the
CFO salary familion, and and didn't he

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resigned her position but has moved somewhere
else. What do you think that tells

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me that the whole thing wasn't entirely
her fault, but maybe certainly as a

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CFO, you gotta be a lot
to blame for what happened. I don't

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know, shouldn't shouldn't they have said
that this is what was happening? Full

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disclosure? Well, sure, of
course. How do you think the president

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looks at her? He's a friend
of ours. Yeah, I don't know.

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He's got to be upset, doesn't
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she either he knew or didn't know, But he had to have known,

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shouldn't you if they were just moving
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mean he would have had Okay that, yeah, he would have had Okay

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that you're being coy with me.
No, I don't know nothing, no,

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no, no, no, I
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having been in the corporate world and
seeing people come and go and do

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things. You know, you know, she might have been sent off to

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go work in some other area.
Do you give her time to find a

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job and get out. Okay,
okay, Well that that's they said.

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We're not gonna fire you. We
don't want to wreck your career because he's

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still pretty young, you know,
we don't want to wreck everything for you.

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You've mostly have done a good job. You screwed this up. We're

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gonna ship you over here. But
it might be a good idea for you

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to start looking for one another job
with the responsibility you had. It might

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be a good idea start. That's
that's a way of doing that, you

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know. So maybe that's you know, maybe that's a good way of doing

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that. I don't know, I
don't know, all right, Okay,

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so I got that. Oh here, well, no, I'll use that

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one in any minute. In the
Tommy Land on his radio show, Now,

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did he mention that, did you
mention Henry Vasar yesterday? Possible?

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Today? Just saying that he's likely
to read sure he is available, right,

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It's it's yeah, he's exactly.
That's all he said to again today

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if something were to come up for
blah blah blah, he'll come out.

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But he's likely the red shirt.
Yeah, they don't know. They don't

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know now until until it happens.
Where it doesn't happen. Yeah, uh,

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which of course that's they got two
big men that are pretty dorn good.

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You know, I waste a year
so some Arizona guys that jumped into

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the transfer portal landing in a bunch
of different places. Isaiah Taylor, I

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was gonna bring that up. He
is at Miami, big, big,

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Where's where's dad played? Right?
Is that his dad was at Miami and

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played for the Dolphins as well,
Jason Taylor. Jason Harris, Uh is

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going to Marshall. Jason Harris.
He was a younger brother, the younger

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brother. We didn't find him on
the roster. Is that the gift?

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Yeah, well that's that's a late
news. He's going to Marshall. This

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is all on the on the Transfer
Portal zone and Zallas website. Jacob we

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know Jacob guy could dummy went to
a s U and at Canyon, Moses

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landed at naut Has landed at the
Dune, Cookman and Amon Allen also at

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an Au. There's some guys who
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an interesting one. You remember Trey
Griffy, Right, Yeah, he has

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a brother who's really good. No, he's got a brother named Kevin Griffy,

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Kevin Tevin. Tevin Kevin is a
TV Yeah, Tevin Tevin defensive back

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and he has h committed to Oh
no, he's joint. He's at Boise.

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Wow. Yeah, because of the
name, you think he'd be better.

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I guess. I don't know.
But uh Griffy here was kind of

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nondescript. Yeah, he had his
career and then just released it. Yeah,

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but he was he wasn't spectaclic.
I think he was with our guy.

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Uh our guy, Oh god,
the guy who only scored touchdowns.

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A freaking guess of mine from from
previous to you, I want to say

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it's no, he was a defensive
guy. I know. Yeah, I

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got got the big fro. Yeah, he's all over my Facebook stuff.

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It'll come to me. Steve uh
pin point Dexter. All right, Okay,

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so that running back from from Mississippi. Remember he was their top running

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back. He was the top running
back, and yes, he sophomore decided

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to jump into the transfer portal,
even though Mississippi is considered the top ten

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team. You three guesses as to
where he's landed. Whose landed. Yeah,

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he's going to he's already determined.
He's already said yes. Oho stated

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yes. Wow, that was just
a gest. I'm the nice guest.

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I would have said that in Michigan. But yeah, okay, very good

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guess that was. That was lucky, good guess, Very good guess.

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We did have Brian Peabody on the
show the other day. They got beat

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last night by by Chandler Gilberte.
You can start the river death, ye,

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Steve was a kiss of death.
That was coming off a nice win

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against coachies. Was always really good. But they got beat eighty to seventy

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one, two games in a row
where they didn't get to their one hundred

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mark, but they scored one fifty
Phoenix College a while back. Gary,

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dude, it's Gary stuff. The
PEMA women did win. They did beat

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General Gilbert, so nice, a
nice win for them. Let's see what

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else. NBA Commissioner Adam Silver said
said they're still gonna They're gonna do the

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in season tournament again next year.
They liked it. They liked what went

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on with it. They said it
will no doubt be back with only a

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few changes, said we were happy
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Did you see did you see when
I went to our guy Steve Kerr got

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his butt kicked by the Pelicans and
he looked like a defeated man in explaining

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that his team just doesn't have it
after they got beatn last second. But

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denver of a week so ago,
they haven't recovered. They've lost six of

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eight. I'm sure Draymond comes by
back with a big deal. Uh,

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they're aging, man, They're they're
not playing with their aging. The game

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has caught up with them. Everybody, you know, it's playing the same

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way. Yeah, going younger,
we'll see. I still have I still

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have faith. But but yeah,
but DoD DoD dot Yeah, yeah,

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tough on Steve. That's I guess
that's what I have, Steve. Okay,

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Yeah, the only thing I really
had was the uh the Isaiah Taylor

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going to Miami. In his tweet
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I guess we thought he was real. Yeah, he's felt like home.

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I love the family. Everybody says
that. Okay, who did do

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you have? Who do you have
money on for this to win the Super

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Bowl? Uh, Baltimore got I
got four teams at the beginning. My

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dead my dead money is Cincinnati.
My survived money is Casey, because I

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would do that Casey. My other
one was I didn't. I stayed up

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Buffalo this year because because Baltimore is
my biggest number. I think it was

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at ten to one, So I
went like six hundred and some of that.

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Uh. And I have a third. Who would be the other one?

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Off San Francisco? You No,
I have to think of the other

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one. I gotta tell you.
Buffalo is to me right now. Of

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course, is as good of a
team to beat as there is, of

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course, but let me let me
say this. And I thought, that's

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the morning because they're good and I
like them. I like them a lot.

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But seven weeks ago, eight weeks
ago, they were dead. They

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were they were dead. And it
tells you, however, these shows like

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ours and other shows, well,
they're not going to do this. We're

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not going to come back. They
have no weapons, yeta, yeaha,

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and here they are. It tells
you how long the season is. It's

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like college basketball. They lose to
Stanford and all the world is ending,

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and it's still only January December.
Relax, in time, it'll get better,

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yeah, or it'll get worse.
I think on the Bills because what

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the I don't even know by fourteen, they're that team right now that as

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they say nobody wants to play Philadelphia, it was Philadelphia, yeah, and

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that was everybody wants to play Philadelphia. Yeah, and they're not playing very

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well. So I'm banking on the
Baltimore Ravens. Okay, uh, super

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Bowl champion. Here are the odds, forty nine Ers at plus two,

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twenty Ravens at plus three ten,
you got them at what six six center,

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then the Bills at six fifty.
Yeah, how are you? That's

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the number one would go after.
In fact, I should go on it

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too, because six fifty is pretty
good. The Chiefs are going to lose

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this weekend. No, No Eagles
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I'll get you know, we have
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that we have to square up,
you know. But but I would take

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Kansas City. Miami doesn't play well
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Kansas City is just they're just terrible. You also like to turn it on

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at the right time. But I
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to just like that. I don't
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just don't know. Don't talk about
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have their eye on the ball.
On Tucson's sports station, chet Fox Sports

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fourteen fifty Hey, welcome back to
one in the Budge on Fox Sports Fortune

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fifty. I'm Steve rivera pas Jigensaus
Noonophone. I have my favorite storyteller coach

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and Elope, how are you,
coach? That's the hard thing that was

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up to that's the hard building.
Come on, you're the best storyteller ever

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somewhere America and someone's telling stories either
water or two. You need to get

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out more. Well, I'll agree
with you on that. Yeah, he

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definitely act. Actually, curiousity,
where are you what lounger are you on

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watching some sports? Yeah? Exactly. You know, I got a hooded

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sweatshirt on. I was outside.
I covered these plants for the hard freeze

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and the cactuses. It's blowing like
crazy out here, so I'm trying to

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cover these plants with this this,
uh this this these uh freeze plants or

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whatever. So I'm out there wrestling. Man, I'm out there wrestling.

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I feel like I'm in a I
feel like I'm in a double header and

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I've lost all my pists. Well, let's go good thinking. You don't

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have to deal with that stuff anymore. So I give you pen and paper.

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You have a little note to write. What are you going to write

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to saying, hey, welcome to
retire and enjoy it. That's amazing.

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What a phenomenal record though, My
goodness. I mean, you know,

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I had a little insight information not
on his retirement, but I've stayed in

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contact with Greg Byrns since he went
over there, the ath leg director.

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Greg. You know, Greg and
I have a good relationship, so we

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stayed in contact. And Chris Mortensen
and I grew up is you know Chris

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Morrison from ESPN. We grew up
together in Los Angeles. And I've known

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Christian Soul my god, since nineteen
seventy four seventy five. And his son

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Alex, who's now at UA B
as the offensive coordinator, was on Coach

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Staban's staff for about ten years.
So I've got a little information about Coach

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Staban and how he goes about his
business and what he did and all the

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rest. And I'm a big fan. You know, I've never met the

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gentleman, but you know, he
just he's one of those old school coaches

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that I'm not sure there are going
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you know, before we know it. But know, hey, I wish

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nothing but the best. He's got
a little bit of a bank account more

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so than I do. Probably will
do more options, you know, Andy.

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One one of the things that gets
talked about when a when a coach

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like like a Saban or even a
Bill Belichick who you know annown it was

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announced today. They leave, they
think, Okay, this guy's been doing

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this for so long. You know, what do they do next? How

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do they handle this? You know? Yeah? And you know, for

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you, you you know, you
did it a long time, and uh,

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you know what in your mind are
the things that these guys who've competed

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at the highest level in any sport
ever. You know what do they gotta

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keep an eye out for? And
how do they deal with this? Yeah?

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You know, and it is an
amazing thing. Like I have.

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My wife and I we had it. Even after the twenty twelve National championship.

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I came back and Greg Burwin was
the athletic director and he, you

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know, hey, we're going to
tear up your contract. And I said,

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no, no, no, no, no, just keep it right

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where it's at. I was.
My contract was going to go until I

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was sixty five, so I had
three years left on it, you know,

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Graig, Greg keep it right ware
at that and he goes what I

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said, Greg, I'm not going
to be here that long. I really

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really want to spend some time with
my wife and kids. And you know,

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I've been doing it for thirty eight
years. I mean, I know,

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my thirty eight years I was coaching, and I was a head coach

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for thirty eight years, right,
So it was never never an assistant where

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you go, man, hey,
we're having a bad street share. Too

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bad for the head coach. You
know. It was like it was my

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it was my you know, my
name on the job and and he looked

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at me. I said, no, Greg, no, no, hey

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man, I'm happy here. I'm
going to give you a good three years

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out of that. Well, little
did I know that, you know,

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four months later I'd have open art
surgery, and so that sped up the

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process of me getting out. Obviously, I got out, you know,

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the very next year. I will
admit the first two years of retirement were

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really challenging for me. I was
a you know, a type a personality.

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I was a very hands on coach. I was you know, I

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was very demonstrative. Some people would
call me a ell than a screamer.

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I say, I was demonstrative,
but uh but it was. It was

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challenging, man, it was really
challenging because at least me, I got

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up every morning feeling like I should
be going somewhere, like I should be

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doing something. I should be going
somewhere. Now, I was mentoring two

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days a week some high risk kids
here in town, which was a real

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blessing. And then I was doing
television work. But I'm not gonna lie

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to you guys. You know,
no disrespect to you guys in the media.

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You guys do a marvelous job.
But you know, I was like,

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what am I doing up here?
You know I should be on the

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field. You know, I should
be on the field. So it took

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me a couple of years to really
kind of uh well, the term my

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wife used, it took me two
years to get out of that state of

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life where I was in full blown
rage all the time. Yeah, I

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can, I can. I can
see that because I mean at such a

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level, and oh, man,
you know, whether whether whether it's real

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pressure or not, you know,
people say, well, it's just it's

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pressure. It's pressure on your job. You got your job real well,

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because everybody's watching and so all of
a sudden, you don't have to do

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that anymore, you know, how
do you? How do you? Billy

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Donovan and Billy Donovan and I were
good friend. We were both together at

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Florida and Billy and you know,
our kids played basketball on the same team,

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so our families got together quite a
bit. And one day we're at

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Billy's house and we're talking about our
jobs. You know, we're talking about

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our jobs. And he said the
funniest thing, but boy, it was

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so true. He goes, hey, what other jobs? And he and

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he he came from Wall Street.
He went from playing in the NBA to

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Wall Street and then he went and
then he got into coaching with coach Patino

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as an assistant. But we were
sitting around and uh, he said,

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who else does this for a living? Wait? We talked about basically,

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he goes, who goes to someone's
job? How many people go to a

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doctor's job? How many people go
to those deals with the job? Every

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time we go to work, there's
like ten thousand people watching us. And

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I said, I said, yeah, there's probably ten thousand opinions and how

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horrible we're doing or whatever, you
know. So yeah, and I never

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forgot that I never got that effect. It's funny because when we were in

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the National Championship tournament. But in
twenty twelve he shot me at text.

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I shot him at therey. I
said, yeah, Billy, I've only

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got twenty five thousand people watching me
at my job today, right right,

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Just win baby, that'll keep people
away. Just keep people away. People

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happy, man, keep me happy. So if you remember this, and

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I think we've talked about this before
on the show, you were sixty two

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sixty three when you retired, you
said you had had you know, you

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were time to go. You had
time on this stuff. You talked about

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the flipping and the flopping, and
you just didn't want to deal with that

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anymore. Look at today, it's
the nil, the portal bridge. You

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know you want to go, go, you know, don't let the door

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enter the ass. I mean,
it's a different world, even from ten

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years ago. I yeah, I
know. These guys are getting paid really

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good money. And there's almost a
part of me that said, hey,

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more power to you now, because
I mean, I mean, my god,

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I just saw the kid from UNLV, the quarterback he committed on Monday

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to Georgia, right he went to
s C. Yeah, yep. The

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next day, so Kirby smart its
bed Monday night. Okay, well we

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got our quarterback set up now,
and he wakes up Tuesday morning, hopefully

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he got a phone call. Who
knows, in this day and age,

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you may have just got a text
message and all of a sudden he's not

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here. Well and what ten twelve
hours? I mean, well, you

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know what what what? So?
Yeah, I mean, I know it's

406
00:27:37.480 --> 00:27:41.359
a wild, wild left man.
It's it's it's yeah, right, Hey,

407
00:27:41.400 --> 00:27:45.880
I can't I can't expect. In
my opinion is it's broken. And

408
00:27:45.640 --> 00:27:48.359
I don't know if they're going to
fix it. I mean, can you

409
00:27:48.400 --> 00:27:51.920
fix it? How about this one? I don't know. How about how

410
00:27:51.920 --> 00:27:55.240
about having a guy who was a
part of your team, a key part

411
00:27:55.240 --> 00:27:59.119
of your defense. You know,
your defense did so well? And right

412
00:27:59.440 --> 00:28:04.920
transfers and goes to Asu. I
saw that later earlier. Was it last

413
00:28:04.920 --> 00:28:07.440
week or the week before? I've
lost track, but yeah, I did

414
00:28:07.480 --> 00:28:10.960
see that. And in fact,
it's funny, Steve, you know this

415
00:28:11.000 --> 00:28:15.200
because you've met and then a few
times my agent, my wife my agent

416
00:28:15.240 --> 00:28:18.200
too. But anyway, I turned
to her. You know, she'd been

417
00:28:18.200 --> 00:28:21.400
marrying me for forty years. So
she's been with me through this whole madness

418
00:28:21.440 --> 00:28:22.799
of thirty eight years as a head
coach. And I said, hey,

419
00:28:22.799 --> 00:28:26.960
babe, check this one out because
she saw, you know, my son,

420
00:28:26.000 --> 00:28:30.319
Michael's the base pitching coach at the
University of Mexico and he's been here

421
00:28:30.319 --> 00:28:33.160
for two weeks before he went back
home, so she knows. She sees

422
00:28:33.200 --> 00:28:37.000
them walking around with his cell phone
taped to his ear for recruiting, and

423
00:28:37.799 --> 00:28:40.359
she knows that that's what I did
all those years. And so I said,

424
00:28:40.359 --> 00:28:41.920
hey, babe, how about this
one a guy from Arizona. And

425
00:28:42.000 --> 00:28:45.920
Arizona had a really bad year this
year, didn't they. And she goes,

426
00:28:45.079 --> 00:28:47.319
oh, they had a great year. I said, I had had

427
00:28:47.400 --> 00:28:51.319
a fantastic year. Jed doing a
great job. Fantastic job. I said,

428
00:28:51.640 --> 00:28:56.000
yeah, one of their players.
She goes, well, you knew

429
00:28:56.039 --> 00:28:56.920
that was gonna happen. Say,
yeah, that's going to happen no matter

430
00:28:57.000 --> 00:29:00.000
who program here. It doesn't matter, Arizona, Alabama, don matter.

431
00:29:00.119 --> 00:29:03.559
Guys are gonna go to poor I
go, but how about this. Guess

432
00:29:03.599 --> 00:29:07.160
where he's going. Then she goes
where Arizona State? And she looked at

433
00:29:07.200 --> 00:29:11.519
me like I was on drugs.
Yeah, she went, what way what

434
00:29:11.200 --> 00:29:15.960
I said, Yeah, he's going
there and to State. So yeah,

435
00:29:15.000 --> 00:29:18.960
I mean, yeah, there's no
parameters there are. There aren't even rival

436
00:29:19.039 --> 00:29:22.160
parameters anymore. Right, it's like
I don't know, man, whatever,

437
00:29:22.680 --> 00:29:26.759
I don't know. Like I said, I'm not a part of it anymore.

438
00:29:26.319 --> 00:29:29.720
Uh, my son is at New
Mexico, so he's not really a

439
00:29:29.799 --> 00:29:32.559
part of it either. You know, they don't have nil money or anything

440
00:29:32.599 --> 00:29:37.000
of that nature. Uh, they're
a mid major school. And and you

441
00:29:37.079 --> 00:29:37.960
know what, I'll be honest with
you guys. I've told him on a

442
00:29:38.039 --> 00:29:41.079
couple of occasions. In fact,
I just told him a couple weeks ago.

443
00:29:41.079 --> 00:29:42.880
I said, hey, Mike,
you know you might just keep your

444
00:29:42.880 --> 00:29:47.240
ear zone for a really solid mid
major job. He could take your You

445
00:29:47.319 --> 00:29:48.680
know, he's not married, I
have a girlfriend yet, but you know,

446
00:29:49.079 --> 00:29:52.000
looking down the road, Hey,
you were going to take care of

447
00:29:52.039 --> 00:29:55.359
your family and maybe not want to
get into that manness. I know you're

448
00:29:55.400 --> 00:29:56.519
gonna get a lot of money.
They're gonna pay you a lot of money,

449
00:29:57.079 --> 00:30:02.000
but what a life, man,
Yeah, you have to think if

450
00:30:02.039 --> 00:30:03.680
it's worth it. So let me
ask your coach. Let me ask your

451
00:30:03.720 --> 00:30:07.799
coach, because we talk about this
philosophically every now and again. How old

452
00:30:08.359 --> 00:30:14.079
is old? I think you're you're
seventy one? Saving is seventy two?

453
00:30:14.240 --> 00:30:17.000
Right? He just said, you
know, I'm tired of kind of going

454
00:30:17.039 --> 00:30:22.640
to work these days. You know
what. I did read something earlier in

455
00:30:22.680 --> 00:30:25.400
the day and my wife. I
read it to my wife and she went,

456
00:30:25.759 --> 00:30:29.839
oh, I remember someone saying that, right he said where he said,

457
00:30:30.480 --> 00:30:33.960
I'm just getting tired of recruiting.
You know, I'm just getting tired

458
00:30:34.000 --> 00:30:37.920
of recruiting. Hey to me,
I'll be okay, I'm going to be

459
00:30:37.400 --> 00:30:41.720
totally transparent with you guys. My
last five to six eight years or so,

460
00:30:44.119 --> 00:30:48.559
it took everything in my in my
body, in my mind to get

461
00:30:48.640 --> 00:30:52.319
on a phone with a fifteen,
sixteen, seventeen year old kid, bet

462
00:30:52.400 --> 00:30:57.200
and try to have a conversation.
I bet. Oh my god, you

463
00:30:57.319 --> 00:31:00.000
guys have no idea how many times
I was to sit here right where I'm

464
00:31:00.000 --> 00:31:03.480
talking to you right now in this
show. I'm in my bedroom, right

465
00:31:03.519 --> 00:31:06.440
on this chair. I sit here
and I stare at my phone and I

466
00:31:06.480 --> 00:31:08.480
say, okay, Andy, you've
got to do this, and then I

467
00:31:08.519 --> 00:31:11.720
start making my calls. Yeah,
well, you know what I mean.

468
00:31:11.759 --> 00:31:15.559
It's like, Wow, it's different. So you know what he's gonna do

469
00:31:15.759 --> 00:31:18.279
in three years you can say,
you know how much effort it was to

470
00:31:18.359 --> 00:31:26.000
talk to Jay and Steve god I
did. It's like you guys like catching

471
00:31:26.079 --> 00:31:29.440
up with old friends. Well,
you know, but it's fine you bring

472
00:31:29.519 --> 00:31:30.720
that up too, because Steve and
I have mentioned the number of times that

473
00:31:32.240 --> 00:31:36.039
the thing that we hated covering more
than any corports writers with recruiting, you

474
00:31:36.119 --> 00:31:38.799
know, you know, having to
chase his kids around town and call them

475
00:31:38.920 --> 00:31:41.079
up, and you know, trying
to find out what they're doing and where

476
00:31:41.119 --> 00:31:47.920
they're going. You know, I
chased Michael Bates's brother Mario all over Ramphi's

477
00:31:48.039 --> 00:31:51.079
campus trying to get him to tell
me where Michael was. You know.

478
00:31:51.160 --> 00:31:52.319
I mean, it's like, and
like, what am I doing here?

479
00:31:52.559 --> 00:31:56.799
You know, it's it's it's kind
of crazy and here and here's what people

480
00:31:56.880 --> 00:32:00.000
don't realize. Well again, all
the people that show up to you and

481
00:32:00.160 --> 00:32:04.920
watch you perform. But here's what
I'll leave his name out. But I'm

482
00:32:04.960 --> 00:32:07.640
at the University of Florida. My
second year there, I recruited kid from

483
00:32:07.640 --> 00:32:12.079
Pennsylvania who's going to be a second
round draft pick. And he's popped in

484
00:32:12.119 --> 00:32:15.720
the second round by the Baltimoreals.
Back then, they could sign unless they

485
00:32:15.839 --> 00:32:20.319
stepped into a class, unless they
stepped in the right Now now there's a

486
00:32:20.400 --> 00:32:22.720
deadline, But back then they could
sign him in their dorm room. They

487
00:32:22.720 --> 00:32:27.759
could sign him in the night before
the classes started. My wife and I

488
00:32:28.079 --> 00:32:30.400
entertained this young man while he was
six foot four. He's a right hand

489
00:32:30.480 --> 00:32:32.839
pitcher that through ninety two miles an
hour. Back then, that was a

490
00:32:32.880 --> 00:32:37.119
lot and I'm breaking ball. He
was everything you want, everything you want.

491
00:32:37.640 --> 00:32:43.359
So we bring him in weekend before
classes start because I know he can

492
00:32:43.480 --> 00:32:45.720
sign before he first steps in the
first day of class. My wife and

493
00:32:45.920 --> 00:32:50.079
we took him to two movies,
him, his mom, and his little

494
00:32:50.119 --> 00:32:53.799
sister. We had him at our
house till like midnight both nights, and

495
00:32:53.960 --> 00:32:57.799
we thought, oh my god,
this okay. We got him. Nobody's

496
00:32:57.839 --> 00:33:02.559
touching, We got him playing for
me. And he was horrible. In

497
00:33:02.640 --> 00:33:07.400
fact, he was he was wait, let's go deeper in the alphabet.

498
00:33:07.559 --> 00:33:12.599
He wasn't horrible. He was asorable. Wow, absolutely, you know,

499
00:33:13.119 --> 00:33:15.359
uh and oh what a headache,
and oh my god, nothing was ever

500
00:33:15.400 --> 00:33:17.960
good enough. And I remember,
I remember that was the first time my

501
00:33:19.119 --> 00:33:21.640
life, in my professional life,
I looked in the mirror one that I

502
00:33:21.640 --> 00:33:28.200
said, Wow, you don't even
know who you're recruiting, you know.

503
00:33:28.400 --> 00:33:31.400
And then and here's the beauty of
it. Before that, I had a

504
00:33:31.519 --> 00:33:38.480
young guy that I was gonna cut, David Eckstein. Wow, he's a

505
00:33:38.599 --> 00:33:42.440
walk on. He's a walk on. And I'm looking at him physically,

506
00:33:42.440 --> 00:33:45.160
I'm going, oh my god,
he can't throw across the endfield. What

507
00:33:45.319 --> 00:33:47.519
my dude, this guy's not gonna
make the team. And at the end

508
00:33:47.519 --> 00:33:50.680
of the year, I'm begging him
not to leave. I'll get your money,

509
00:33:50.720 --> 00:33:52.400
I'll get your scholarship money. I'll
get your scholarship money. And and

510
00:33:52.680 --> 00:33:57.480
uh so you know it's it's it's
a I don't know. Hey, I'll

511
00:33:57.480 --> 00:34:00.640
admit to anybody out there, every
time we recruit someone, I hoped and

512
00:34:00.720 --> 00:34:02.119
prayed it was gonna work out.
So let me let me ask you one

513
00:34:02.160 --> 00:34:07.039
last question before we go. At
what point after saying goodbye, did you

514
00:34:07.160 --> 00:34:14.719
realize, Okay, I made the
right decision. Oh man, about two

515
00:34:14.719 --> 00:34:17.039
and a half years into it.
Yeah, about two and a half years

516
00:34:17.280 --> 00:34:20.280
while because I felt good, see
if I really did, Yeah, I

517
00:34:20.320 --> 00:34:22.000
try to take care of myself and
I I feel really good. But you

518
00:34:22.039 --> 00:34:24.559
know, I had to earn his
pop during the surgery, and I never

519
00:34:24.639 --> 00:34:28.679
got them fixed, so I really
couldn't move around like I used to because

520
00:34:28.679 --> 00:34:30.559
I used to banning practice every day
and show them how to do base running

521
00:34:30.559 --> 00:34:32.840
and all the rest of them things
like that. And I didn't even go

522
00:34:32.880 --> 00:34:36.719
out and take some grand balls every
now and then. So I knew that

523
00:34:36.840 --> 00:34:38.400
was a restriction. But yeah,
mentally, about two and a half years

524
00:34:38.400 --> 00:34:40.679
after it, about two and a
half years after it, and now you're

525
00:34:40.760 --> 00:34:45.360
just enjoying life covering. Oh yeah, okay, let me let me finish

526
00:34:45.440 --> 00:34:51.199
that question. I ask you this
now. Now, why did I wait

527
00:34:51.280 --> 00:34:57.280
till I was sixty two? Well, now now you have to cover plants

528
00:34:57.360 --> 00:35:00.079
and you know, get the dogs
in from the code. My biggest yeah,

529
00:35:00.159 --> 00:35:02.880
my biggest thing is watching now when
I take my golden tree for a

530
00:35:02.920 --> 00:35:07.039
walk in the morning, having to
street watching out for hapolinas. That's my

531
00:35:07.119 --> 00:35:10.199
biggest job right now. Well,
that's cool, that's cool. Coaches always,

532
00:35:10.239 --> 00:35:14.159
thank you very much, all right, man, keep up the good

533
00:35:14.199 --> 00:35:15.760
work fellows. Hey, Happy New
Years to both you guys. Man,

534
00:35:15.840 --> 00:35:20.400
Yeah, bless you guys. Thank
you, thanks very much, one of

535
00:35:20.440 --> 00:35:22.679
the great guys. I love his
stories. Yeah, oh yeah, great,

536
00:35:22.280 --> 00:35:25.800
great storyteller. But you know again, and you know what, he

537
00:35:25.920 --> 00:35:30.159
retired at a young age. Yeah, he was sixty you're talking about.

538
00:35:30.280 --> 00:35:32.760
That's you, you two years ago. Yeah, and I found you off

539
00:35:32.840 --> 00:35:37.360
the car on the concrete sidewalk.
You want to come and join me?

540
00:35:37.199 --> 00:35:40.119
Sure, here you are, I
know, you know. All right,

541
00:35:40.559 --> 00:35:43.840
that was great, So we'll be
back. We'll wrap it up if you

542
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want to give us a call five
two zero four one six seventy four forty.

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depositive restrictions apply terms at sportsbook dot
DraftKings dot com slash football terms. Yeah,

609
00:40:37.679 --> 00:40:40.280
okay, all right. You know
I've been looking at you know,

610
00:40:40.679 --> 00:40:45.920
sleep and talk talking. You spend
so much time talking about sabing. You

611
00:40:45.960 --> 00:40:50.280
know. The Belichick retirement's a big
deal, no question, it's a huge

612
00:40:50.360 --> 00:40:52.800
deal. And you know, the
New England folks have to they've had to

613
00:40:53.000 --> 00:40:59.280
tread carefully on what they say,
you know, because he's still built Belichick,

614
00:40:59.320 --> 00:41:05.079
He's seven super Bowls, he's still
the guy. But you also needed

615
00:41:05.119 --> 00:41:07.679
to do something because it wasn't working
there, sure, and then't worked since

616
00:41:08.280 --> 00:41:15.199
mister magic Man left. Yeah.
Yeah. Robert Crafton's press conference was quoted

617
00:41:15.239 --> 00:41:17.559
in saying, what's going on here
in the last three or four years isn't

618
00:41:17.599 --> 00:41:21.800
what we want. We have a
responsibility to do what we can to fix

619
00:41:21.880 --> 00:41:24.079
it. At the same time,
in talking about Brady and Belichick, he

620
00:41:24.119 --> 00:41:28.119
said they were both the best at
their professions and we were lucky to have

621
00:41:28.239 --> 00:41:31.719
them together for two decades. I
mean, you gotta be careful. There's

622
00:41:31.719 --> 00:41:34.800
gotta be careful. I was gonna
talk to you about here. We gotta

623
00:41:34.800 --> 00:41:38.679
call. I'm gonna call hi.
You're on the R and I on the

624
00:41:38.719 --> 00:41:43.119
ball. Hey, guys, what's
up? Is vic Hey? Vic vic

625
00:41:44.079 --> 00:41:47.000
Hey? I wanted to tell you
a real quick Andy Lopez story of my

626
00:41:47.079 --> 00:41:53.119
own because then that that guy is
often. But in nineteen eighty nine,

627
00:41:53.199 --> 00:41:58.000
I went to a clinic at cal
State, LA and a bunch of high

628
00:41:58.000 --> 00:42:01.760
school coaches and stuff, and we're
in the gym and he tells opens the

629
00:42:01.880 --> 00:42:07.000
clinic with his story that him and
Rick Dempsey are going to Dodger Stadium and

630
00:42:07.079 --> 00:42:12.719
they get lost. They get and
jay and you know, illision and every

631
00:42:12.760 --> 00:42:15.880
once in a while it can be
kind of tricky. So he says they

632
00:42:15.920 --> 00:42:17.920
can see the light and they're like, how the heck do you turn for

633
00:42:19.039 --> 00:42:23.239
the street to get into the into
the to the stadium. So he sees

634
00:42:23.280 --> 00:42:28.039
a bunch of kids out playing with
football and he pulls up next to him

635
00:42:28.079 --> 00:42:30.360
and he tells one of the kids, hey, kid, He says,

636
00:42:30.400 --> 00:42:35.079
how do you get to Dodger Stadium? And the kid turns around and tells

637
00:42:35.119 --> 00:42:40.239
him your practice, man, your
practice. You know that's a great answer.

638
00:42:40.440 --> 00:42:45.000
That's a great answer. So so
real quick. So this past year,

639
00:42:45.320 --> 00:42:49.599
me and actually you know, I'm
jays Chardy re going that bunch from

640
00:42:49.639 --> 00:42:53.800
nineteenth Street where the guys are at
the Arizona game, and we're outside the

641
00:42:54.480 --> 00:42:59.320
game ends and Andy and his daughter
walk by and say, hey, coach,

642
00:42:59.400 --> 00:43:02.679
what's up? And we stayed out
there talking baseball for over half an

643
00:43:02.719 --> 00:43:07.639
hour, just bullshit, like at
a bar. So I tell him that

644
00:43:07.679 --> 00:43:10.079
I went to that clinic and he
says, oh, he says, He

645
00:43:10.199 --> 00:43:13.800
says, are you kidding me?
He says, I remember that like it

646
00:43:13.920 --> 00:43:16.639
was yesterday. And he goes,
can I tell you a little PostScript to

647
00:43:16.719 --> 00:43:21.239
that story? And I said yeah. He says that the next day,

648
00:43:21.320 --> 00:43:23.599
him and his wife are Long Beach, that's where they lived, and that

649
00:43:23.719 --> 00:43:30.079
they're going to dinner, and he
says he takes a couple of turns down

650
00:43:30.280 --> 00:43:32.840
Second Street, armb be there,
his wife goes, where the heck are

651
00:43:32.880 --> 00:43:37.920
you going. He says, I
promised the kids or the team. He

652
00:43:38.079 --> 00:43:42.760
was at Pepperdine. Then he says, I promised the team that I was

653
00:43:42.800 --> 00:43:45.679
going to take a drive to the
neighborhood and if I saw kids playing with

654
00:43:45.840 --> 00:43:50.599
football, you guys didn't have to
do audition. So he says, I

655
00:43:50.760 --> 00:43:54.000
drove up and down Long Beach for
half an hour and read me and Chargie

656
00:43:54.039 --> 00:43:57.400
said, well, did you find
any kids playing with the ball? He

657
00:43:57.519 --> 00:44:00.599
says no, but I conditioned the
shit out of him next day. Well,

658
00:44:01.880 --> 00:44:06.599
okay, let's review what you just
told us. We had to we

659
00:44:06.719 --> 00:44:12.239
had to try. I doubt if
we got to bleep you twice, we

660
00:44:12.320 --> 00:44:15.400
probably didn't bleep you twice. I
think we got the second one. Okay,

661
00:44:15.559 --> 00:44:19.119
Okay, Uh, for that,
you're gonna get a participation trophy.

662
00:44:20.000 --> 00:44:24.519
Exact guy exactly. But remember that
was and fucking not me. Okay,

663
00:44:24.960 --> 00:44:30.920
so you quoted direct context context Okay, Okay, that that was just a

664
00:44:31.079 --> 00:44:34.440
He's just a great guy, and
I love when you guys have him on.

665
00:44:34.519 --> 00:44:36.840
I've heard him a couple of times. Real quick, tell me,

666
00:44:37.119 --> 00:44:43.280
tell me what Tell Jay what you
told me about the Washington quarterback? Oh?

667
00:44:43.639 --> 00:44:46.039
Jay, you got your vote?
Man, that was a bad performance.

668
00:44:47.360 --> 00:44:52.480
You could go get a kid from
on high to go make those paths.

669
00:44:52.679 --> 00:44:58.440
You know how many bad games did
Jadan Jayden Uh Daniels whole bunch.

670
00:44:58.800 --> 00:45:02.159
They lost three. So I no, no, I'm standing by I'm standing

671
00:45:02.280 --> 00:45:07.360
by my vote. That's another participation
trophy. J He was bad. He

672
00:45:07.559 --> 00:45:09.880
was bad. No, he was
bad. He was bad. For loud,

673
00:45:10.039 --> 00:45:13.800
he was bad. But his line
was bad. Michigan. You know,

674
00:45:13.920 --> 00:45:16.360
Michigan made him bad. And that's
why I I gave in and admitted

675
00:45:16.400 --> 00:45:20.599
that Michigan was, you know,
hands down the best team in the country

676
00:45:20.679 --> 00:45:24.519
and they deserve to win the championship. Yeah, they sure, all right?

677
00:45:24.599 --> 00:45:30.840
Vick? Hey, thanks about right. I appreciate it. Cares Man,

678
00:45:30.880 --> 00:45:32.679
we got vic, we got Howard, we got we got Nico.

679
00:45:32.760 --> 00:45:37.000
Who else Hammerschmid? Yeah, you
know, put him Hall of fame,

680
00:45:37.320 --> 00:45:40.280
Hall of fame for cussing on the
show. Seriously. Uh, this is

681
00:45:40.320 --> 00:45:44.320
our last show of the year for
us. Hey, and again for those

682
00:45:44.360 --> 00:45:46.599
of you who if you're listening now
and we're trying to hear us. In

683
00:45:46.679 --> 00:45:51.679
the first the first segment of the
show, which was preempted by the National

684
00:45:52.440 --> 00:45:55.800
the National feed, I believe we'll
get that on the podcast tonight. We

685
00:45:55.960 --> 00:46:02.079
spent that first segment really talking about
about and and Belichick and the meaning of

686
00:46:02.159 --> 00:46:06.159
some of that. Let me let
me ask you, maybe anybody can call

687
00:46:06.199 --> 00:46:14.079
we hel about Simmons. What makes
a good coach? You know, it's

688
00:46:14.119 --> 00:46:17.199
funny because there have been great coaches
who've been just ogres right that you go,

689
00:46:19.800 --> 00:46:22.000
how did that guy do that?
How did he get his guys to

690
00:46:22.079 --> 00:46:24.320
play for? Right, That's part
of it. And and and to me,

691
00:46:25.000 --> 00:46:30.360
a good coach is a coach who
in the end the players love the

692
00:46:30.440 --> 00:46:36.840
guy, would walk through the walls
respect and respect him, have no harsh

693
00:46:36.920 --> 00:46:38.480
feelings about him. At the end
of it, they don't have to say

694
00:46:38.599 --> 00:46:43.079
it was all worth it. Right, Bobby Knight comes to mind, right,

695
00:46:43.519 --> 00:46:45.599
you know, I mean, I
know Bobby Knight's players allowed to say,

696
00:46:45.719 --> 00:46:46.239
you know what, I loved him. He did a lot for me.

697
00:46:46.360 --> 00:46:50.719
But man, he was hard to
play for. To me, it's

698
00:46:50.760 --> 00:46:54.079
a guy like uh, like Andy
Lopez, Right, but he admitted he

699
00:46:54.800 --> 00:46:58.400
was hard on the guys. But
you know, but you know, he

700
00:46:58.559 --> 00:47:01.119
won and the players ended up loving
him. You know, Jed Fish looks

701
00:47:01.159 --> 00:47:04.639
like one of those guys. You
know, will he ultimately be a great

702
00:47:04.679 --> 00:47:07.159
coach? I don't know. But
when you look at Belichick and you know,

703
00:47:07.480 --> 00:47:10.480
I'm reading the statement that Tom Brady
put out about it, because you

704
00:47:10.480 --> 00:47:13.679
know, in the end, you
know, when Brady left, it sounded

705
00:47:13.719 --> 00:47:15.920
like there was some fu two guys. You don't Brady it at the end

706
00:47:15.960 --> 00:47:19.400
of his at the end of his
statement, he said, I could never

707
00:47:19.400 --> 00:47:22.800
have been the player I was without
you, Coach Belichick, I'm forever grateful

708
00:47:22.840 --> 00:47:24.639
and I wish you the best,
lucky and whatever you choose next. You

709
00:47:24.719 --> 00:47:29.280
know, when a guy will come
back and say that to you, you

710
00:47:29.360 --> 00:47:31.800
know that's meant those are the great
coaches. Well, the less they win,

711
00:47:31.960 --> 00:47:35.639
It's like it's like a student going
back to his teacher when he's older,

712
00:47:35.679 --> 00:47:37.480
and you know that wouldn't be doing
what I'm doing before you. Now

713
00:47:37.960 --> 00:47:40.840
I agree. So you have to
be you have to be a pain in

714
00:47:40.920 --> 00:47:44.400
the ass you do to a degree. You have to be. You can't

715
00:47:44.440 --> 00:47:46.800
be their friend. You can't be
their friend. Did you listen to our

716
00:47:46.840 --> 00:47:51.400
Peabody interview and he talked about that
you always had to have a RaSE,

717
00:47:51.480 --> 00:47:53.880
right, you had to have a
ras and a bird song and those guys

718
00:47:54.159 --> 00:47:59.840
to be the buffer between you and
Luke our guy like you like you because

719
00:48:00.039 --> 00:48:01.480
because you because you're gonna get yelled
at, or you're gonna be scolded,

720
00:48:01.559 --> 00:48:05.440
are you're gonna be whatever. But
you have some you need somebody to go

721
00:48:05.639 --> 00:48:08.800
and vent to, right. If
it wasn't Bobby, it was Ross or

722
00:48:08.840 --> 00:48:10.480
somebody else, you know, or
in the early days, you know,

723
00:48:10.519 --> 00:48:14.440
you had you know Kevin O'Neil,
Ricky bird Song, Where the where the

724
00:48:14.519 --> 00:48:16.679
guys when they were first coming to
uh, you know, the into the

725
00:48:16.760 --> 00:48:21.440
national right right, So you need
that. But a coach, a good

726
00:48:21.480 --> 00:48:23.639
coach needs to be respected to no
question. They need to play for you.

727
00:48:23.840 --> 00:48:28.159
Want to play for you, Saban, you have to you have to

728
00:48:28.199 --> 00:48:30.239
have a big paint of the butt. You have to be a big painted

729
00:48:30.239 --> 00:48:31.719
the But you know, if you
ever listen to interviews of Saban's old players,

730
00:48:31.880 --> 00:48:35.079
they love the guy. Yeah,
you know, they love the guy.

731
00:48:35.320 --> 00:48:37.320
And what's not to love. Yeah, you're gonna win a lot.

732
00:48:37.519 --> 00:48:38.800
Yeah, if you're good enough,
you're gonna play a lot. You know,

733
00:48:39.079 --> 00:48:42.280
uh, you know, and you
know, you meant there's a lot

734
00:48:42.320 --> 00:48:45.280
of guys who came through there.
Look at a guy like Levi Wallace from

735
00:48:45.800 --> 00:48:50.280
right walk On went over there.
But whatever expectations he had, maybe you

736
00:48:50.320 --> 00:48:52.400
know, we need to get him
run on the sholf and guys in the

737
00:48:52.559 --> 00:48:57.599
NFL. You know how much did
Nick did Nick Saban have to do with

738
00:48:57.679 --> 00:49:02.559
that? A lot of it was
within Levi Wallace to have the the competitiveness

739
00:49:02.639 --> 00:49:08.559
to wherewithal the dedication to do that, to bet on himself. But he

740
00:49:08.679 --> 00:49:13.599
also had to help from had to
have help from Nick Saban and the coaching

741
00:49:13.679 --> 00:49:16.039
staff over there to achieve the dream
that he's achieved. And you know the

742
00:49:16.079 --> 00:49:19.880
guys in the NFL out of nowhere. You know a kid who didn't even

743
00:49:19.920 --> 00:49:24.400
get recruited to Arizona. So you
know, it's it's a work of art

744
00:49:24.679 --> 00:49:30.000
to be that. Look, you
know who the great coaches are. A

745
00:49:30.360 --> 00:49:36.559
long ago I read the book Jerry
Kramer, The Lion the Linement for the

746
00:49:36.679 --> 00:49:40.480
Packers during the sixties, and he
spent time talking about Vince Lombardi, right,

747
00:49:40.960 --> 00:49:45.519
and Vince Lombardi was I mean,
he would crack your skull, but

748
00:49:46.599 --> 00:49:52.360
there was a respect, there was
an understanding that he had their best interests

749
00:49:52.480 --> 00:49:57.559
in mind, and that's why those
guys were great for him. It was

750
00:49:57.599 --> 00:50:00.159
a different times. That was a
very different different You could get away with

751
00:50:00.199 --> 00:50:04.800
a whole lot more stuff than you
could now, right Well, but yeah,

752
00:50:06.440 --> 00:50:09.480
no, now you know they're no
you couldn't get you know. Now

753
00:50:09.559 --> 00:50:13.239
it's like you can talk back to
your coach, right, well, hey,

754
00:50:13.280 --> 00:50:15.039
I'm making more money than you,
coach. I heard a great story,

755
00:50:15.320 --> 00:50:21.599
I'll tell you on the way and
I heard a great story on the

756
00:50:21.719 --> 00:50:24.960
radio talk. It was to a
tongue of my law. When he throws

757
00:50:25.000 --> 00:50:29.880
that touchdown pass in the overtime game
to win the national championship, remember that

758
00:50:30.159 --> 00:50:35.199
he took a sack and then they
were second and twenty six throws a touchdown

759
00:50:35.239 --> 00:50:37.519
pass. They win the national championship, and they're celebrating on the field,

760
00:50:38.000 --> 00:50:43.679
and Tua goes to it told the
story somewhere, goes On gives Nick Saban

761
00:50:43.760 --> 00:50:47.320
a hug, and Nick Saban goes
goes I thought I told you not to

762
00:50:47.400 --> 00:50:52.880
take a sack on first down.
And Tua said, coach, I just

763
00:50:52.920 --> 00:50:54.880
thought we needed some more room to
to, you know, to maneuver.

764
00:50:55.239 --> 00:50:59.119
Kind of cracking a joke about it, and he said that. Sabing,

765
00:50:59.199 --> 00:51:02.000
in all serious, said to him, that wasn't funny there in the middle

766
00:51:02.000 --> 00:51:07.000
of celebrating the national championship. And
Saban was still coaching right there in that

767
00:51:07.119 --> 00:51:09.679
I don't know about that. Thought, that's that's a cute story, but

768
00:51:10.519 --> 00:51:14.800
that's uncomfortable, coach, What else
can I do for you? Well,

769
00:51:15.039 --> 00:51:15.760
that was here, and that's the
thing to it, thought he was,

770
00:51:16.119 --> 00:51:20.159
you know, it was time to
make the joke a little levity and and

771
00:51:20.239 --> 00:51:22.559
Saban was still being very serious to
me. It's kind of like a Bette

772
00:51:22.639 --> 00:51:28.159
Davidson doing his hair and Loot saying, don't touch my hair. Don't whatever

773
00:51:28.159 --> 00:51:30.000
you do, don't touch more.
Get off me. I told you never

774
00:51:30.119 --> 00:51:32.639
touched my hair. You know what
I'm saying. I think that's one of

775
00:51:32.679 --> 00:51:36.280
the funniest things that happened at the
end of that you know, well,

776
00:51:36.360 --> 00:51:38.119
the loots thing. Yeah, yeah, well because he was not Luke like

777
00:51:38.280 --> 00:51:43.119
you know, it was the non
loot thing. Okay, now, good

778
00:51:43.159 --> 00:51:45.440
show today, welcome back. He
got you off your death. Bet.

779
00:51:45.639 --> 00:51:47.840
Well, I'm not sure I'm happy
to be back. Well, we'll have

780
00:51:49.079 --> 00:51:51.599
sid in today. Okay, tomorrow, we'll say, I mean, I'll

781
00:51:51.599 --> 00:51:52.840
try and commit tomorrow. It's always
better to be here and we can talk

782
00:51:52.880 --> 00:51:55.400
to each other face to face.
Yeah, yeah, tomorrow. I don't

783
00:51:55.440 --> 00:51:59.920
know anybody's had bronchitis. Man,
this is the first time I ever had

784
00:52:00.760 --> 00:52:04.960
man. Oh man, maybe it's
maybe it's worse because I'm old. But

785
00:52:05.760 --> 00:52:07.320
you're old. You need to retire. Okay, I've pulled rib muscles,

786
00:52:07.440 --> 00:52:12.239
my throat hurts. I expect a
Twitter release saying that I've had enough.

787
00:52:13.159 --> 00:52:15.159
My wife has had enough. Of
me because she says the worst person in

788
00:52:15.239 --> 00:52:17.960
the world to be sick. Well, no, dude, she hasn't met

789
00:52:19.039 --> 00:52:23.920
me. I'm ai't have a room
at my place. You're gonna have to

790
00:52:24.000 --> 00:52:28.440
move over to the northwest side,
all right. So we will be back

791
00:52:28.480 --> 00:52:30.719
tomorrow. We'll more great guests,
and we'll talk some more and we'll see

792
00:52:30.719 --> 00:52:35.519
if any other coaches like this uh
quits by tomorrow, right, who knows

793
00:52:35.559 --> 00:52:45.280
where we're at. We'll see you
tomorrow. Thanks for being here. Don't

794
00:52:45.320 --> 00:52:47.360
believe, Just don't believe. Just
La