WEBVTT 1 00:00:22.440 --> 00:00:31.600 Willie Brock You by Choice Hotels, Econo Lodge and Roadway in Hotels are serving 2 00:00:31.640 --> 00:00:36.479 up double points for every qualifying stay book at Choice Hotels dot com. Now 3 00:00:36.640 --> 00:00:41.439 here's the man who's been recognized as radio's best, the recipient of not one, 4 00:00:41.520 --> 00:00:47.039 but two prestigious Marconi Awards for his broadcast excellence, the one and only 5 00:00:47.640 --> 00:00:54.000 Bill Cunningham. Well, no, Marconi's for us, but you got Mike 6 00:00:54.079 --> 00:00:57.960 Allen and Mike Allen Jr. I think, Mike, this is the third 7 00:00:57.960 --> 00:01:00.479 time we've subbed for Willie, Yeah, or four something like that. I 8 00:01:00.960 --> 00:01:03.879 enjoy it very much. Hell yeah, thanks to him for letting us do 9 00:01:03.920 --> 00:01:07.760 it. Absolutely Hey, if you want to be part of it tonight eight 10 00:01:07.879 --> 00:01:11.840 six six six four seven seven three three seven. Well, the only thing 11 00:01:11.879 --> 00:01:18.000 I can say, Mike, is what a week? Yeah plenty. I 12 00:01:18.040 --> 00:01:22.680 mean, I feel like I'm back in the sixties again. Onching these idiots 13 00:01:22.760 --> 00:01:27.799 protesting on campus. Yeah yeah, they're taking over buildings, they're intimidating people 14 00:01:27.840 --> 00:01:33.040 on the way to class. Uh, and just generally acting a fool. 15 00:01:33.120 --> 00:01:36.359 So what else is new? You know? Right? And it's all there 16 00:01:36.400 --> 00:01:38.959 for the world to see. And just like in the sixties, the majority 17 00:01:40.040 --> 00:01:44.560 of the college administrators aren't doing anything about it. No, I mean, 18 00:01:44.599 --> 00:01:48.680 if you've if you've been watching it, they're actually either ages being totally passive 19 00:01:48.760 --> 00:01:55.159 or be actually helping the protesters. But I think the question is is why 20 00:01:55.200 --> 00:01:57.920 are especially when you look at Columbia and it's not like there's not enough going 21 00:01:57.920 --> 00:02:02.480 on in New York here right down the street, but especially the ones at 22 00:02:02.480 --> 00:02:06.760 the Ivyley schools, Why are the most privileged, rich kids in the history 23 00:02:06.760 --> 00:02:09.639 of the world pretending to be terrorists because you see some of them walking around, 24 00:02:09.719 --> 00:02:14.599 you know, literally dressed like hamas mea rights. And I think the 25 00:02:14.680 --> 00:02:20.639 answer is as simple as it is scary. They just want revolution. And 26 00:02:20.719 --> 00:02:25.159 if you look at revolutions throughout history, you know from the Russian Revolution to 27 00:02:25.199 --> 00:02:29.759 the American Revolution, they need mainstream support. Now you know, in this 28 00:02:29.879 --> 00:02:35.879 case enter the American media, the American Democrat Party, and academia. And 29 00:02:36.240 --> 00:02:38.639 you know, for example, you see like the Communist Revolution of Russia, 30 00:02:42.080 --> 00:02:45.759 you know that you have other parties throughout people supporting it, and what happened, 31 00:02:45.759 --> 00:02:50.199 well they execute anybody afterwards. But the point is is when it comes 32 00:02:50.199 --> 00:02:53.840 to American radicals, nothing's changed. You have bored upper class kids. Just 33 00:02:53.919 --> 00:02:57.199 like in the other revolutions, like the Russian Revolution, you had upper class 34 00:02:57.240 --> 00:03:01.319 people. So here you got upper class, beyond belief kids in a country 35 00:03:01.319 --> 00:03:07.960 that's basically handed them absolutely everything, including admission to universities like Columbia. But 36 00:03:08.039 --> 00:03:12.280 the problem is they don't really have a purpose given to them by society or 37 00:03:12.319 --> 00:03:15.360 their parents. They just are supposed to be, I guess, finding themselves 38 00:03:15.360 --> 00:03:20.240 for four years. But they're told they're going to be America's best and brightest. 39 00:03:20.439 --> 00:03:23.159 And just like we did, and this is a good example of it 40 00:03:23.199 --> 00:03:25.599 as to how we got where we were we are with the media, federal 41 00:03:25.639 --> 00:03:30.080 law enforcement, the tech industry. Is you get these kids from places like 42 00:03:30.120 --> 00:03:38.520 Columbia that are just totally indoctrinated and they're and they're absolutely bombarded with this leftist 43 00:03:38.719 --> 00:03:42.159 propaganda for lack of a better term, and then they go out into the 44 00:03:42.199 --> 00:03:46.919 institutions like the media and like like in politics and like in in public health 45 00:03:46.000 --> 00:03:49.960 or the tech sector, and they take all the stuff they learned at the 46 00:03:49.960 --> 00:03:54.759 Marxist you know, training ground known as Columbia and other colleges campus, right, 47 00:03:54.800 --> 00:03:59.319 and then they destroy whatever industry they go work for, whether it be 48 00:03:59.360 --> 00:04:01.599 the media or whatever it is. It's just like a recycling thing. It 49 00:04:01.719 --> 00:04:06.039 really is, and it was. There were some comical aspects to this thing 50 00:04:06.159 --> 00:04:12.960 too. To listen to these idiots explain, try to explain what they're they're 51 00:04:13.000 --> 00:04:15.759 there for. There was one and maybe we can get the clip where. 52 00:04:15.399 --> 00:04:18.959 Uh the reporter asked this one young lady, well, what why are you 53 00:04:19.000 --> 00:04:24.360 out here? She got, well, you know, then she looks at 54 00:04:24.399 --> 00:04:28.000 her friend. She looks at and you can google this. It's on it's 55 00:04:28.040 --> 00:04:31.800 on there. She looks at her friendstance, why are we here? Uh? 56 00:04:31.920 --> 00:04:34.720 Let me let me say this. There is some good news and all 57 00:04:34.759 --> 00:04:38.360 of this and I wanted to share this. I already shared it with you. 58 00:04:38.399 --> 00:04:43.639 I want to share it with our listeners. Not every college president is 59 00:04:43.680 --> 00:04:47.319 a wuss. There is a college president. His name happens to be Ben 60 00:04:47.759 --> 00:04:51.399 Sass. He is the president of the University of Florida. He is a 61 00:04:51.439 --> 00:04:58.160 former Nebraska US Center. That sounded really fun. Yeah, okay, it's 62 00:04:58.240 --> 00:05:01.759 it's just a paragraph, but man reads really well. Okay, here we 63 00:05:01.800 --> 00:05:06.560 go. This is Ben Sas, the president of the University of Florida. 64 00:05:06.959 --> 00:05:15.240 Actions have consequences at the University of Florida. We have repeatedly, patiently explained 65 00:05:15.279 --> 00:05:19.600 two things to protesters. We will always defend your rights to free speech and 66 00:05:19.639 --> 00:05:27.839 free assembly, but if you cross the line on clearly prohibited activities, you 67 00:05:27.920 --> 00:05:31.959 will be thrown off campus and suspended. In Gainesville. That means a three 68 00:05:32.040 --> 00:05:39.040 year probation to secret probation, prohibition from campus. Then he goes on to 69 00:05:39.079 --> 00:05:42.040 say, that's serious. We said it. Listen to this. We meant 70 00:05:42.040 --> 00:05:45.240 it. This is the best part. We enforced it. We wish we 71 00:05:45.279 --> 00:05:49.199 didn't have to, but the students weighed the cost, made their decisions, 72 00:05:49.639 --> 00:05:57.000 and will own the consequences as adults. We are a university, not a 73 00:05:57.199 --> 00:06:01.879 daycare. We don't coddle emotions, wrestle with ideas. Hey, that's like 74 00:06:02.000 --> 00:06:04.720 I feel like I'm in church. That's just preaching right there. Man. 75 00:06:04.800 --> 00:06:09.240 You know what I even put in the weather aside. I want to pack 76 00:06:09.319 --> 00:06:12.600 my car and move. Yeah, they're not. They're not gonna put up 77 00:06:12.639 --> 00:06:15.000 with this down there. But I will say one thing, and I Sherik 78 00:06:15.040 --> 00:06:18.759 I think is her last name, I can't remember, of Columbia. She's 79 00:06:18.759 --> 00:06:24.319 another serial plagiarist. She as you recall, she went in front of Congress 80 00:06:24.319 --> 00:06:30.040 when at least Dephonic absolutely excoriated all of the presidents of the universities. And 81 00:06:30.160 --> 00:06:33.600 let's keep in mind how long ago that was. This anti Semitic nonsense on 82 00:06:33.639 --> 00:06:39.240 the college campus has been going on for three months or so, and literally 83 00:06:39.319 --> 00:06:43.160 since the since maybe three days after the October seventh, the Thanks, we've 84 00:06:43.160 --> 00:06:46.519 been dealing with this, and that's none of them have done anything. But 85 00:06:46.279 --> 00:06:49.800 she has to resign, and I really don't see how she holds on at 86 00:06:49.800 --> 00:06:54.319 this point. But but at some point, these colleges have got to be 87 00:06:54.319 --> 00:06:58.279 held accountable, and if that means defunding them, especially if there's a Republican 88 00:06:58.319 --> 00:07:01.920 administration after this with a Republican House, if that means taking federal funding from 89 00:07:01.920 --> 00:07:05.439 the universities, then do it. You know, I heard somebody, I 90 00:07:05.480 --> 00:07:10.879 forget who it was, a commentator who was asked the question, what in 91 00:07:10.920 --> 00:07:15.199 the world do we do about higher education? And he said, what you 92 00:07:15.279 --> 00:07:19.920 said, but he added this, and he's right. It's got to be 93 00:07:20.160 --> 00:07:25.519 the trustees of the university, the ones that are appointed by the governor or 94 00:07:25.560 --> 00:07:29.759 some political appointment. As you know, I served on the board of the 95 00:07:29.839 --> 00:07:34.360 University of Cincinnati. It's about twenty years ago. But we had a good 96 00:07:34.399 --> 00:07:38.759 president. We didn't have any of this nonsense. But the board, the 97 00:07:38.800 --> 00:07:43.040 board of trustees, has to keep an eye out for what's going on on 98 00:07:43.120 --> 00:07:46.759 these universities or you know, we're going to be screwed with that. Well, 99 00:07:46.800 --> 00:07:49.759 the one thing that gives me hope is I can't remember what day it 100 00:07:49.800 --> 00:07:53.399 was. It was maybe Tuesday or Wednesday this week. I'm sitting there watching 101 00:07:53.439 --> 00:07:57.240 TV when I go home from work, and I see these these frat boys 102 00:07:57.600 --> 00:08:01.040 at the University of North Carolina. Did you see that where they walk in 103 00:08:01.120 --> 00:08:05.360 with my kid and they raise the American flag and I'm like, they keep 104 00:08:05.399 --> 00:08:07.680 showing this picture of all of them, and then there's this one kid turned 105 00:08:07.720 --> 00:08:13.079 around who's videotaping the protesters around him, and he's just got this bleep eating 106 00:08:13.160 --> 00:08:16.120 grin on his face, and I'm like, man, that should be that's 107 00:08:16.160 --> 00:08:20.240 gonna be my generations. Like the Ewajima flag going down, is all these 108 00:08:20.519 --> 00:08:24.000 all these kids go And that's the one thing you like. And then you 109 00:08:24.040 --> 00:08:28.959 saw at the University of North Carolina. The president of the university was out 110 00:08:28.000 --> 00:08:31.679 there with those kids helping to do that. So there are some of them 111 00:08:31.720 --> 00:08:37.480 are are you know, doing the right thing. But again, it's just 112 00:08:37.639 --> 00:08:41.360 astonishing that in twenty twenty four you have stuff like this going on, and 113 00:08:41.399 --> 00:08:46.879 protests are fine, but when you're trying to intimidate Jewish students, that's that's 114 00:08:46.919 --> 00:08:50.559 astonishing. Well, let me ask you something. And we've talked about this, 115 00:08:50.639 --> 00:08:54.720 but and I got a few years on you, obviously, did you 116 00:08:54.159 --> 00:09:01.679 have any idea of the level of anti Semitism in this country? Because I 117 00:09:01.720 --> 00:09:03.679 gotta tell you, yeah, I didn't. Yeah, well I do. 118 00:09:05.879 --> 00:09:09.279 We're here in Cincinnati. I do a local show Sunday nights before Willie, 119 00:09:09.080 --> 00:09:11.720 and I've been saying anybody who listens to me, they'll tell you. I've 120 00:09:11.720 --> 00:09:16.639 been saying it for months and months, maybe years and years before October seventh, 121 00:09:16.639 --> 00:09:20.000 which is the Democrat Party has a serious anti Semitism problem. So I 122 00:09:20.080 --> 00:09:24.159 know own it right right and you And it's because you had stuff for the 123 00:09:24.240 --> 00:09:28.639 last seven or eight years, Rashida talib ilhan Omar saying patently anti Semitic offensive 124 00:09:28.639 --> 00:09:33.519 stuff, and nobody, no, not Nancy Pelosi, not not Joebama or 125 00:09:33.639 --> 00:09:39.240 Joe Biden and Barack Obama, nobody in Democrat leadership ever called them out on 126 00:09:39.320 --> 00:09:41.919 it. So I knew that Democrats were anti Semitic. Anybody you know who's 127 00:09:41.960 --> 00:09:46.480 been around for the last time, I mean, that's what I'm to see. 128 00:09:46.519 --> 00:09:50.159 The way that it has just exploded. I didn't I thought it was 129 00:09:50.200 --> 00:09:52.919 just a few kooks in the Democrat Party, right. I didn't think it 130 00:09:52.960 --> 00:09:56.279 was their entire base. And it's frightening, it's scating when you think about 131 00:09:56.320 --> 00:10:03.840 it. I mean, do these kids are they about six million dead? 132 00:10:03.080 --> 00:10:07.799 Public public schools. Every single kid in America and in junior high or high 133 00:10:07.799 --> 00:10:13.159 school literally takes an entire course on the Holocaust. So these kids that have 134 00:10:13.240 --> 00:10:16.519 all gone out there have taken an entire course. Oh I didn't know that. 135 00:10:16.600 --> 00:10:20.320 Yes, it's mandated. They must have been they must have been sleeping, 136 00:10:20.399 --> 00:10:22.799 I guess, yeah, yeah, yeah. And here's the other thing 137 00:10:22.879 --> 00:10:28.759 too. It's more than the quote students unquote the majority and I think pretty 138 00:10:28.799 --> 00:10:35.559 much the overwhelming majority of people that were out there protesting and rioting, they're 139 00:10:35.559 --> 00:10:39.120 not students. Just a couple examples here Mike University of North Carolina at Chapel 140 00:10:39.159 --> 00:10:45.240 Hill, the police arrested thirty people, only ten were students. Ohio State 141 00:10:45.399 --> 00:10:50.919 this week thirty six arrested, only sixteen were students. Northeastern University ninety eight 142 00:10:52.120 --> 00:10:56.120 arrested, only twenty nine were students. But I see, I think, 143 00:10:56.039 --> 00:11:00.480 and look, those are some schools. But the stuff that I saw when 144 00:11:00.480 --> 00:11:03.879 they're pulling the masks off them, these are students. These are some of 145 00:11:03.879 --> 00:11:07.519 those numbers. I'm not sure about because when I see these kids, they 146 00:11:07.519 --> 00:11:11.960 take their mass off when they're finally getting arrested. I don't see crazy activists. 147 00:11:11.000 --> 00:11:13.240 I see, I see students. But I mean, what do you 148 00:11:13.279 --> 00:11:16.759 expect when you're coming out of an indoctrination place like college? Amen? And 149 00:11:16.799 --> 00:11:20.039 not only college, it starts in grade school and goes through high school. 150 00:11:20.080 --> 00:11:24.039 Now, hey, listen, we have to take a short break. If 151 00:11:24.039 --> 00:11:28.120 you want to be a part of this. Eight six six six four seven 152 00:11:28.399 --> 00:11:33.879 seven three three seven, give us a call. Mike Allen Mike Allen Junior 153 00:11:33.960 --> 00:11:48.879 in for Willie Live on Sunday Night. Hey, we're back, Mike Allen 154 00:11:48.000 --> 00:11:52.919 Junior, Mike Allen Senior Live on Sunday Night with Willie. We are talking 155 00:11:52.960 --> 00:11:58.440 about this insanity on the college campus. And Dad, you wanted to talk 156 00:11:58.480 --> 00:12:03.080 about some well, yeah, and that these guys are saying the cops. 157 00:12:03.159 --> 00:12:05.559 The way they treat the cops. I mean, it's just unbelievable, the 158 00:12:05.559 --> 00:12:11.399 cops. It's just like last summer, right right, you know, just 159 00:12:11.519 --> 00:12:16.919 to give you an idea, these liberal ya who's on the campus. I 160 00:12:16.000 --> 00:12:22.120 read this this week. This lefty by the name of Saul Staniforth tweeted out 161 00:12:22.159 --> 00:12:26.720 on x this week about the campus riots. Quote It's hard to overstate the 162 00:12:26.799 --> 00:12:35.200 degree of outrage and betrayal of the faculty. The outrage who cares anyway? 163 00:12:35.279 --> 00:12:39.240 Going on? The irony that, in the name of student safety, the 164 00:12:39.440 --> 00:12:46.279 encampment will be facing a you're ready, militarized police invasion. It's hard to 165 00:12:46.360 --> 00:12:50.559 say how fully many of the faculty are finding this. You know, what 166 00:12:50.679 --> 00:12:56.600 can I tell you some I don't give a tinker's damn what the faculty thinks 167 00:12:56.639 --> 00:13:01.320 about it. Yeah, they're literally, and I mean this quite literally. 168 00:13:01.559 --> 00:13:07.360 The only thing more arrogant than a college professor is a law professor. But 169 00:13:07.919 --> 00:13:11.720 I'm telling you, but what we were talking about, this stuff is going 170 00:13:11.799 --> 00:13:16.519 to Cary what is it now? May the conventions are coming up. I'm 171 00:13:16.559 --> 00:13:20.360 telling you right now, if Joe Biden does not get the ceasefire that he 172 00:13:20.519 --> 00:13:24.600 desperately needs. This is going to go into the convention, no doubt, 173 00:13:24.759 --> 00:13:28.240 just like in nineteen sixty eight. It's in Chicago, and God help us. 174 00:13:28.399 --> 00:13:33.080 And you know what happened in Chicago. There was riots right outside the 175 00:13:33.120 --> 00:13:37.679 convention and a lot of people I think that ended up voting for Nixon saw 176 00:13:37.759 --> 00:13:41.039 that, and that was what pushed them over the other Roques for Nixon because 177 00:13:41.080 --> 00:13:43.639 and I'm telling you right now, if it's the same thing a bunch of 178 00:13:43.679 --> 00:13:48.519 idiot kids dressed like terrorists outside the convention in Chicago, Donald Trump's going to 179 00:13:48.799 --> 00:13:52.519 just run away with this damn thing, you know what. And it's interesting 180 00:13:52.600 --> 00:13:58.159 that they picked Chicago because you talk about the perils, right and you know, 181 00:13:58.279 --> 00:14:01.720 you think about it. I just wonder if there'd be any way we 182 00:14:01.759 --> 00:14:09.240 can channel Mayor Daily to come back Mayor Daily about the thing. Far as 183 00:14:09.279 --> 00:14:16.120 a thing from uh Mayor Daily. They've got the channel back the Chicago PD, 184 00:14:16.879 --> 00:14:20.600 you know, and they're talking about the way the cops handled it. 185 00:14:22.080 --> 00:14:26.200 If anything, I thought the response, frankly, was a little too mild. 186 00:14:26.639 --> 00:14:31.240 One more of these these idiots here. There's a guy named Vulker Turk 187 00:14:31.720 --> 00:14:35.720 who happens to be the UN Human Rights Chief. He said this this week 188 00:14:35.039 --> 00:14:41.840 quote, I am concerned that some of law enforcement's actions across a series of 189 00:14:41.000 --> 00:14:48.080 universities appeared disproportionate in their impacts the Well, no, they didn't say that 190 00:14:48.240 --> 00:14:50.840 yet, you know, they didn't say that. But here's the thing, 191 00:14:50.879 --> 00:14:56.600 and you probably already know this. If there is one thing that binds the 192 00:14:56.720 --> 00:15:03.879 left together, and it's always then this way, is their hatred of police. 193 00:15:03.120 --> 00:15:05.799 Yeah yeah, I mean I just think they hate everybody. I mean, 194 00:15:05.840 --> 00:15:09.320 if you stop and think about it, it's not just police, it's 195 00:15:09.399 --> 00:15:15.480 literally anybody who is not some ism part of the LGBTQ plus minus divided by 196 00:15:15.559 --> 00:15:18.600 sign. Basically, if you're just white and straight, they hate you. 197 00:15:18.799 --> 00:15:22.720 Well, and they don't make any bones about that. They hate food with 198 00:15:22.840 --> 00:15:26.440 gluten. Yeah, yeah, that's you see that the door dash, Well, 199 00:15:26.440 --> 00:15:28.679 I like the one where they're trying to get the pizza up to the 200 00:15:28.840 --> 00:15:33.360 uh they're trying to get the pizza roped up to the top and they can't 201 00:15:33.360 --> 00:15:35.960 get it into the milk rate. It's like, good God, But these 202 00:15:35.960 --> 00:15:39.559 are America's best and brighter Oh yes, yes, And they're so dedicated as 203 00:15:39.600 --> 00:15:43.960 long as they get their non gluten food. Yeah, of course, of 204 00:15:43.000 --> 00:15:46.200 course, I don't know. I'll tell you. You know, you see 205 00:15:46.200 --> 00:15:50.639 this stuff, and I mean, I worry about this country. I guess 206 00:15:50.759 --> 00:15:54.559 that's probably an understate. Well, you stop and think about it. In 207 00:15:54.639 --> 00:15:58.759 sixty eight when they went nuts at the convention, I remember watching that with 208 00:15:58.799 --> 00:16:03.799 my Well, what happened was Nixon one and they all got forced underground, 209 00:16:03.879 --> 00:16:07.000 right, and then you probably remember this in the early seventies, at one 210 00:16:07.039 --> 00:16:10.360 point there was a bombing every fives I'm telling you, they were tearing it 211 00:16:10.399 --> 00:16:15.559 out right, weather underground of black panthers, et cetera. What what I 212 00:16:15.559 --> 00:16:18.960 guess my question is is what makes us think that these people aren't any different 213 00:16:18.320 --> 00:16:22.440 that if Donald Trump wins this election, they see that as an existential threat 214 00:16:22.440 --> 00:16:26.519 to democracy? Is it such a far cry to go? They're taking over 215 00:16:26.600 --> 00:16:30.360 buildings now, they're going to be setting off bombs a year from now. 216 00:16:30.440 --> 00:16:33.600 I don't think that's an exaggerated stretch either. I'm telling you, I mean, 217 00:16:34.120 --> 00:16:40.600 the the parallels are definitely there, and you're right about what happened in 218 00:16:40.639 --> 00:16:44.440 the early seventies. I mean, things were blowing up all over the place. 219 00:16:44.480 --> 00:16:49.360 The Symbinese liberation army, all these ya who's But again, I think 220 00:16:49.480 --> 00:16:52.759 so much of it, Mike, And I guess I'm just saying what you 221 00:16:52.879 --> 00:16:59.720 already know and everybody else does. It's all about the damn indoctrination, which 222 00:16:59.799 --> 00:17:04.279 now starts in grade school and goes through high school. Any parent who does 223 00:17:04.319 --> 00:17:11.480 not look at their child's Civics book, citizenship book, if they dare to 224 00:17:11.519 --> 00:17:15.720 teach that to see what's going on, they're crazy. Yeah. Yeah, 225 00:17:15.839 --> 00:17:18.079 And it's like you said, these are people that are out, you know, 226 00:17:18.200 --> 00:17:22.200 intimidating Jewish kids trying to go to class, all in the name of 227 00:17:23.279 --> 00:17:27.400 a terrorist organization. But these are kids that, literally to all of them, 228 00:17:27.480 --> 00:17:32.519 were mandated taking a specific class on the Holocaust. That's what just floors 229 00:17:32.559 --> 00:17:34.160 me. Well, you know what, you taught me something I didn't know. 230 00:17:36.000 --> 00:17:38.680 Frankly, that only makes it worse. And you know what, I'd 231 00:17:38.720 --> 00:17:42.240 like to ask one of them. I wish somebody would when they're out there 232 00:17:42.279 --> 00:17:47.519 talking about Palestine and the mosque being so great, blah blah blah, you 233 00:17:47.559 --> 00:17:53.640 know the genocide over there that is the most offensive. Excuse me a minute, 234 00:17:55.079 --> 00:17:59.480 did you ever hear of October the seventh? You know, fifteen hundred 235 00:17:59.480 --> 00:18:04.440 people, napped, babies beheaded, grandmother's raped. I guess, you know, 236 00:18:04.720 --> 00:18:07.640 we don't need to worry about that. So when I hear that, 237 00:18:07.799 --> 00:18:11.880 I think the best idea is to dress up just like them and to go 238 00:18:11.920 --> 00:18:14.160 out in the middle of street and chant for them. I mean, that's 239 00:18:14.200 --> 00:18:17.759 just what's amazing about all of it. But yeah, and that's the thing 240 00:18:17.839 --> 00:18:21.599 is you wonder where the administration is, You wonder where the professors are, 241 00:18:21.680 --> 00:18:23.799 And here we have it, the professors. I think a Columbia actually formed 242 00:18:23.799 --> 00:18:26.359 a line around these people to try to protect them. But what I want 243 00:18:26.359 --> 00:18:30.759 to know is who's paying for this stuff? He's paying for the tents, 244 00:18:30.839 --> 00:18:36.000 well, keeping them fed? Who's keeping them supplied? That's my question? 245 00:18:36.200 --> 00:18:38.440 Well, the ply would, I mean, those things cost money. I 246 00:18:38.519 --> 00:18:41.839 was watching something over the weekend where the cops were scooping them all up. 247 00:18:42.400 --> 00:18:47.759 These are some like really nice tents, you know, And I think at 248 00:18:47.759 --> 00:18:49.519 the end of the day, and they're already figuring this out, it comes 249 00:18:49.559 --> 00:18:55.480 down to the usual suspects to with one George Soros and some of these others. 250 00:18:55.640 --> 00:18:59.240 Yeah. Yeah, And that's the other thing too, is you know, 251 00:19:00.240 --> 00:19:03.200 we figured out who January sixth rioders were within I don't know a day 252 00:19:03.319 --> 00:19:07.319 of this. Oh yeah, if they can find January sixth riders, we'll 253 00:19:07.359 --> 00:19:10.319 be able to find these riders well if they care to. Quick question before 254 00:19:10.319 --> 00:19:14.200 we break, where in the heck is the FBI? Where is the DOJ? 255 00:19:14.599 --> 00:19:17.720 Too busy prosecutors? Anyway, we gotta take a break when we get 256 00:19:17.759 --> 00:19:33.599 back your calls Mike Allan, Mike Allen Jr. Live on Sunday Night. 257 00:19:40.400 --> 00:19:44.720 Hey, we're back, Mike Allen, Mike Allen Jr. Live on Sunday 258 00:19:44.799 --> 00:19:47.519 Night. You know I'm gonna go to the calls here, Mike, like 259 00:19:47.599 --> 00:19:49.680 I said it was. But before before I do that, I gotta throw 260 00:19:49.759 --> 00:19:53.440 this out here. Did you happen to see some of the demands that these 261 00:19:53.480 --> 00:19:56.960 little snow boats made they across the board, but some were just okay, 262 00:19:57.279 --> 00:20:03.400 let me just give you some. They demand knee and elbow pads. Glove 263 00:20:03.480 --> 00:20:08.079 Now, I don't get this, gloves without reinforced knuckles. I don't get 264 00:20:08.119 --> 00:20:15.839 that. They wanted rope, they wanted helmets, they wanted non steroid inhlers, 265 00:20:15.720 --> 00:20:21.440 and make no mistake, hot food for lunch, however, it better 266 00:20:21.519 --> 00:20:26.920 be gluten free. Damn straight and package food. Uh, listen to this, 267 00:20:26.480 --> 00:20:33.839 no package food, no bagels. I wonder why I was discussed it 268 00:20:33.880 --> 00:20:37.920 really is. It just shows the level of the immaturity of these clowns. 269 00:20:38.039 --> 00:20:41.759 Let's let's talk to Enzo in New York. Hey, Enzo, how you 270 00:20:41.839 --> 00:20:45.440 doing. I'm doing great. You guys have a great show there tonight. 271 00:20:45.640 --> 00:20:48.960 Thank you, thank you. Oh I love it. I mean you're hitting 272 00:20:48.960 --> 00:20:52.279 it right on point. Hey, whyn't we just do this? Why don't 273 00:20:52.279 --> 00:20:55.160 we just take all those students that are that are protesting and give them a 274 00:20:55.200 --> 00:20:57.279 gun, let them send them over to the Middle East and see they makeout. 275 00:20:57.400 --> 00:21:03.319 Yeah, right, good luck with that. Let's take them, like 276 00:21:03.319 --> 00:21:04.759 you guys said, let's take the funding away from them, because it's our 277 00:21:04.799 --> 00:21:07.640 taxpayer of money that's paying for their schooling, absolutely, you know. And 278 00:21:07.680 --> 00:21:12.079 then and then find the parents a million dollars for every for every child they 279 00:21:12.160 --> 00:21:17.119 have in school that's protesting, period. I like that. And you know 280 00:21:17.160 --> 00:21:21.440 what, some of these ivy leaguers could afford that too. Of course they 281 00:21:21.480 --> 00:21:23.160 can't, of course. So I think I listen, I think I think 282 00:21:23.240 --> 00:21:27.000 every one of those those kids that are that are spoiled, rotten, and 283 00:21:27.200 --> 00:21:30.200 I think it's owed to them. Let's put them in jail, just like 284 00:21:30.240 --> 00:21:37.799 those so called the insurrection January. Those people still haven't gotten the court date 285 00:21:37.880 --> 00:21:41.640 yet, right right, and confinement the ones that have been sent and said, 286 00:21:41.920 --> 00:21:47.519 And Mike and I both are criminal defense lawyers. Yeah, the punishments 287 00:21:47.720 --> 00:21:52.039 so distant. Yeah, you know, disgusting, disgusting, which means that 288 00:21:52.200 --> 00:21:57.640 Merrick Garland when he's told by H Joe Biden to get tough, he can 289 00:21:59.279 --> 00:22:02.759 you know the other thing too, And so throughout this whole thing, have 290 00:22:02.920 --> 00:22:11.920 you heard one peep one word out of our attorney generally about this, not 291 00:22:11.319 --> 00:22:17.000 once, not once. And they're making terrorst stretch like that the old Mala 292 00:22:17.920 --> 00:22:21.920 crazy woman over there in Chicago. I mean, these people are these these 293 00:22:21.920 --> 00:22:26.039 are not representatives, are insane. They're fueling the fire. It's ridiculous if 294 00:22:26.039 --> 00:22:26.839 we were if we were to do that, if we were to do that, 295 00:22:26.880 --> 00:22:32.240 as uh you know some of the conservatives, we'd be in jail by 296 00:22:32.240 --> 00:22:37.839 now, trying to hold us contempt, right right, right, Really it's 297 00:22:37.880 --> 00:22:42.000 a bad situation, man, Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, all 298 00:22:42.119 --> 00:22:45.640 right, And so appreciate the call, buddy, thank you. Yeah, 299 00:22:45.680 --> 00:22:48.839 that's that's the point, is is mark my words, we don't need another 300 00:22:48.880 --> 00:22:52.119 example of a two tier justice system. But mark my words, mark my 301 00:22:52.160 --> 00:22:56.359 words. And we already know if they wanted to find these people, the 302 00:22:56.480 --> 00:23:00.480 d o J and the FBI can find them. And and I guarantee you, 303 00:23:00.559 --> 00:23:04.880 I can guarantee you six months from now, there will be no federal 304 00:23:06.000 --> 00:23:08.519 charges, there will be no you know, congressional and create none of that 305 00:23:08.720 --> 00:23:12.519 because we all know that Merrick Ireland in the Department of Justice and the FBI 306 00:23:12.799 --> 00:23:17.680 are there. They're only interested in locking up and going after people on the 307 00:23:17.720 --> 00:23:21.079 right. Well, we don't need another example. Christopher Ray, you know 308 00:23:21.599 --> 00:23:25.319 he's not that, he's not camera shy. Where has he been on this? 309 00:23:26.240 --> 00:23:27.559 Not a word? And you know what, Mike, I mean, 310 00:23:27.559 --> 00:23:33.759 there's so many sad aspects of this, but one of the saddest is the 311 00:23:33.880 --> 00:23:37.200 reason a lot of this stuff is happening. And some might say it's simplistic. 312 00:23:37.359 --> 00:23:42.839 I don't think it is all because Joe Biden wants to pick up Muslim 313 00:23:42.920 --> 00:23:48.039 votes in Michigan. Yeah, I mean that is just reprehensible, right right, 314 00:23:48.079 --> 00:23:52.440 But that's the thing is he's lose lose no matter what, because did 315 00:23:52.480 --> 00:23:57.480 you see the college where They had the pro Israeli and anti Israeli protests, 316 00:23:59.119 --> 00:24:02.799 all of them chant F Joe Biden. That's the only thing that they can 317 00:24:02.839 --> 00:24:07.039 agree on. You had the leftist protesters and the right protesters channing f but 318 00:24:07.240 --> 00:24:10.079 F Joe Biden. Hey, I don't think he has a clue. Yes, 319 00:24:10.240 --> 00:24:12.119 but that's the thing too. And then you see his response to this. 320 00:24:12.319 --> 00:24:18.759 It is the trademark of Joe Biden. There's two things. Unbelievably late 321 00:24:18.359 --> 00:24:22.480 and he gets it wrong. And what happened this time he was two weeks 322 00:24:22.480 --> 00:24:26.039 too late before he said anything about this right, and then when he said 323 00:24:26.039 --> 00:24:30.359 it, it was just some mealy mouth. Also Islamophobia and to throw that 324 00:24:30.440 --> 00:24:33.079 in, didn't he That don't get him what forty to fifty votes? And 325 00:24:33.279 --> 00:24:37.519 yeah in Michigan. Yeah, it's pretty astonishing. And that's the thing is, 326 00:24:37.559 --> 00:24:40.640 why would you want votes from people who hate this country? I just 327 00:24:41.200 --> 00:24:44.240 well, because he just wants to remain in power. Hey, let's talk 328 00:24:44.279 --> 00:24:45.960 to russ in Indiana. Hey, Rush, how you doing, man? 329 00:24:48.440 --> 00:24:51.559 Hey, guys, how's it going? Good? Good? What you got 330 00:24:51.839 --> 00:24:55.279 gred? Hear you? Hear you back on the on the radio. Thank 331 00:24:55.319 --> 00:25:00.880 you, sir. I call it a while back, and but it's just 332 00:25:02.319 --> 00:25:08.440 crazy in terms of the political situation and the campus protests that are going on. 333 00:25:08.559 --> 00:25:12.720 But you guys probably remember what happened back in the day with Kent State. 334 00:25:14.039 --> 00:25:18.960 Yeah, yeah, it doesn't seem like history kind of repeat itself. 335 00:25:18.039 --> 00:25:23.640 I mean, over and over and over, the same things are happening. 336 00:25:25.599 --> 00:25:30.839 But one thing I wanted to ask you about, why don't we hear more 337 00:25:30.880 --> 00:25:34.440 about the sensible center instead? It doesn't the left and the right all the 338 00:25:34.480 --> 00:25:38.920 time. It's just right. Sometimes I wonder if it's even there anymore. 339 00:25:40.079 --> 00:25:42.559 I mean, as far as the center, you can't find a moderate Democrat 340 00:25:42.599 --> 00:25:45.160 with a search warrant. But that's a very good question. I mean, 341 00:25:45.200 --> 00:25:48.720 what do you think, Mike, Yeah, I mean if you take a 342 00:25:48.720 --> 00:25:52.799 look at it and you see the polling in this everybody's always talked about after 343 00:25:52.880 --> 00:25:57.079 election after election about the coveted independent voter, and those numbers just keep getting 344 00:25:57.160 --> 00:26:00.480 smaller and smaller and smaller. So yeah, I mean, I think we're 345 00:26:00.519 --> 00:26:04.160 just that polarized. There is no middle at this point, and that's why 346 00:26:04.680 --> 00:26:10.160 the center won't hold at some point. No, at some point, and 347 00:26:10.200 --> 00:26:12.759 I'll tell you what, in my lifetime and We've discussed this. In my 348 00:26:14.119 --> 00:26:21.319 wildest dreams, did I ever think that there would be college students supporting a 349 00:26:21.400 --> 00:26:29.480 group like a moss murders, thugs and killers and being overtly anti semitic to 350 00:26:29.640 --> 00:26:33.559 Jews. I would not have thought that. But when you've seen the squad 351 00:26:33.920 --> 00:26:37.839 say whatever the hell they want about Jews without anybody in the Democrat leadership condemning 352 00:26:37.880 --> 00:26:41.440 them for it, what can we expect? You know? Good point. 353 00:26:41.680 --> 00:26:44.519 Hey, we got Joe in New Hampshire. He wanted to talk about an 354 00:26:44.519 --> 00:26:48.920 ABC poll that came out today about the Democratic Convention. Hey, Joe, 355 00:26:48.960 --> 00:26:52.680 tell us about that. Hi, Mike, Hi Mike. How are you 356 00:26:52.759 --> 00:26:56.680 doing man? Good? Good? Hey great? You work well together. 357 00:26:56.799 --> 00:27:03.079 Great, We've been doing it for about thirty seven years, so I figured 358 00:27:03.319 --> 00:27:07.319 something good together. Hey, a few things I called. Because that ABC 359 00:27:07.480 --> 00:27:14.759 poll, any any poll from ABC, CNN, MSNBC, you can add 360 00:27:14.880 --> 00:27:19.319 five even ten points to the Trump count. Yeah, because they oversample Democrats, 361 00:27:19.359 --> 00:27:22.799 et cetera, et cetera. So they come out and say it's basically 362 00:27:22.839 --> 00:27:26.759 a dead heat. They're really tight, which is ridiculous at this point. 363 00:27:26.839 --> 00:27:32.000 Well, Joe, but if they do it on the issues, you know 364 00:27:32.440 --> 00:27:36.720 who do you support on the economy, on immigration, Trump is up by 365 00:27:36.880 --> 00:27:41.160 ten points on those things. Well, I was, I was just about 366 00:27:41.200 --> 00:27:45.079 to say. They went on to say that, you know, other points, 367 00:27:45.119 --> 00:27:48.759 Trump is way ahead, but they said on one important issue Biden is 368 00:27:48.920 --> 00:27:56.079 way ahead on is integrity and honesty. And that is so ridiculous. It's 369 00:27:56.119 --> 00:28:00.240 unreal because the Biden, the Biden crime family, it's well known on the 370 00:28:00.359 --> 00:28:04.200 laptop, all these uh you know, kickbacks, you even go back to 371 00:28:04.240 --> 00:28:07.119 when he's in college or law school. The plagiarism. I mean, this 372 00:28:07.160 --> 00:28:11.279 guy's just been a bs or for what I mean, what we haven't heard 373 00:28:11.319 --> 00:28:15.759 anything lately about you know, his family and stuff and millions of dollars in 374 00:28:15.799 --> 00:28:19.279 their integrity. Give me a break. Where is the DOJ and the FBI 375 00:28:19.440 --> 00:28:23.880 on that. I'm telling you you're talking about movies dollars that makes water look 376 00:28:23.960 --> 00:28:29.680 like Tiddley wings. Yeah. All the all the national news, mainstream news 377 00:28:29.720 --> 00:28:33.880 networks all day long and tonight they're reporting the ABC poll. It's neck and 378 00:28:34.039 --> 00:28:37.960 neck. Trump's ahead on you know, all the points that we know about, 379 00:28:38.359 --> 00:28:44.799 He's significantly ahead. But the one point that's significant that Biden is way 380 00:28:44.839 --> 00:28:48.400 ahead on his integrity and honesty, and the voters, you know, think 381 00:28:48.440 --> 00:28:51.799 a lot of that. So you know the ABC poll is a fraud. 382 00:28:52.119 --> 00:28:55.240 Just to say that, Yeah, you know, it makes it. It 383 00:28:55.279 --> 00:28:59.960 really does. But you know the interesting thing, Joe Trump is always complain 384 00:29:00.480 --> 00:29:06.640 about Fox News polls because he thinks that they undersample him too. So who 385 00:29:06.680 --> 00:29:10.720 knows, you know what, there's the margin of er and everything else. 386 00:29:11.880 --> 00:29:15.200 Yeah, here's the other important thing that came out this weekend. They have 387 00:29:15.400 --> 00:29:21.720 RFK at about twelve to thirteen percent of we polled, and he's increasing and 388 00:29:21.759 --> 00:29:23.200 a lot of people that I've talked to you say he could end up with 389 00:29:23.279 --> 00:29:29.359 twenty. But again, bid into such an honest, integrity person, but 390 00:29:29.440 --> 00:29:33.240 he won't provide RFK with secret Service protection. Isn't that amazing? Look happened 391 00:29:33.240 --> 00:29:38.880 to his father, right? I mean, why would it shock anybody who 392 00:29:40.240 --> 00:29:45.680 who had literally goes after and has indicted his political opponents, Not just Donald 393 00:29:45.720 --> 00:29:51.640 Trump, he's the FBI's gone after Catholics, Christians, anti abortion groups. 394 00:29:52.359 --> 00:29:55.400 I mean, it's it's stuff that shocks you but doesn't surprise you, if 395 00:29:55.400 --> 00:29:56.599 that makes sense, you know what I mean. It shocks you because that 396 00:29:56.640 --> 00:30:00.920 stuff's always shocking, But it doesn't surprise me. Sometimes I think about in 397 00:30:02.039 --> 00:30:06.720 dream world. Yeah, I have a very important question I'd like to ask 398 00:30:06.759 --> 00:30:10.039 both of you. And if you say you don't want to go there, 399 00:30:10.079 --> 00:30:14.559 I understand. I've asked this of a lot of talk show hosts across the 400 00:30:14.599 --> 00:30:17.640 country the past few months, and most of them don't want to go there. 401 00:30:18.000 --> 00:30:19.920 But let's say, you know, they're been I'm putting Donald Trump in 402 00:30:21.000 --> 00:30:23.599 jail even for twenty minutes, I judge in New York, I contempt the 403 00:30:23.680 --> 00:30:27.519 court. He's threatening jail time Georgia. They want to you know, end 404 00:30:27.599 --> 00:30:33.079 up. But my question is this, if Donald Trump was put in jail 405 00:30:33.200 --> 00:30:37.960 even for twenty four hours, so it's the secret service that he's provided right 406 00:30:37.000 --> 00:30:41.599 now follow him into the jail to make sure that Jeff Epstein doesn't happen. 407 00:30:41.720 --> 00:30:48.039 Good question. I heard that brought up. I didn't know there's an answer 408 00:30:48.400 --> 00:30:51.359 from what I've heard, and I don't have a source on this. I 409 00:30:51.440 --> 00:30:53.279 just know it's been kind of the you know, the the going thing here 410 00:30:53.359 --> 00:30:56.960 is yes, he would get he would and I think that what would happen 411 00:30:57.039 --> 00:31:00.000 is is there would be some sort of deal work where he would probably do 412 00:31:00.079 --> 00:31:04.519 some type of House arrest. But conceivably Donald Trump could be president from a 413 00:31:04.519 --> 00:31:10.759 New York jail cell. That's unbelievable. It's unreal to me that the commander 414 00:31:10.759 --> 00:31:12.480 in chief could be in an eight by eight New York. Maybe he'll he'll 415 00:31:12.480 --> 00:31:21.680 get one of those deals like good Fellows, wine and steak medium rare an 416 00:31:21.680 --> 00:31:26.240 aristocrat. You know, we laugh about it, but it makes us no 417 00:31:26.359 --> 00:31:30.079 different than Chile, you know below. Yeah, No, I've been saying 418 00:31:30.079 --> 00:31:32.640 it for us. Yeah, I've been saying it for months years at this 419 00:31:32.640 --> 00:31:36.519 point where we lit there is nothing now that the justice system and you and 420 00:31:36.559 --> 00:31:40.720 I Dad were defense attorneys. We know this. Once the justice system's gone, 421 00:31:40.839 --> 00:31:45.240 we have gone off the rails. Man, it really is. Yeah, 422 00:31:45.359 --> 00:31:47.440 Hey, listen, we got to take a break, but we'll be 423 00:31:47.519 --> 00:31:49.880 back and we'll go back to the phones. And by the way, if 424 00:31:49.920 --> 00:31:53.359 you want to be a part of it. Eight six six six four seven 425 00:31:53.920 --> 00:32:00.920 seven three three seven. Mike Allen Mike Allen Junior Live on Sunday Night with 426 00:32:02.799 --> 00:32:17.240 Not with Bill Cunning and Bill will be back next week. Hey, we're 427 00:32:17.279 --> 00:32:22.519 back. Mike Allen Junior Mike Allen Senior Live on Sunday Night in for Willie 428 00:32:24.039 --> 00:32:28.359 We're gonna take some calls here real quick. We got John, John, 429 00:32:28.400 --> 00:32:31.119 and Cleveland thinks we're being too kind or not hard enough on the protesters. 430 00:32:31.200 --> 00:32:34.960 John, what's going on up in Cleveland? Brother, John? Letter rip? 431 00:32:35.039 --> 00:32:40.240 Man? I'm I'm atural you'dn't want me a letter rip in that direction. 432 00:32:40.759 --> 00:32:46.559 But I think that this is this is a major, vast conspiracy by 433 00:32:46.599 --> 00:32:55.960 the military industrial revisiting of the nineteen fifties MacArthur hearings h and to create a 434 00:32:57.480 --> 00:33:06.400 system of a multiplication sphear and disinformation against anyone who criticizes the US or Israel's 435 00:33:06.400 --> 00:33:12.240 war policies. We're back to Joe McCarthy now, and the new word is 436 00:33:12.240 --> 00:33:16.960 not blaming comedies, but blaming anti Semites, which has nothing to do with 437 00:33:17.000 --> 00:33:23.759 these protests against genocidal That many Jews are among those protesters, and they're against 438 00:33:23.799 --> 00:33:29.359 it because they don't want to be associated with that kind of bombing of forty 439 00:33:29.440 --> 00:33:32.000 thousand. I gotcha, I got you, John. I appreciate your point 440 00:33:32.039 --> 00:33:37.480 of view, man, I really do. Yeah, he talks about Joe 441 00:33:37.519 --> 00:33:40.799 McCarthy. Let me tell you something, Joe McCarthy, I know he was 442 00:33:42.440 --> 00:33:47.000 not bad. Well, they opened up the files when the Soviet Union collapsed. 443 00:33:47.079 --> 00:33:51.480 And guess what a lot of what he said was right. Yeah, 444 00:33:51.519 --> 00:33:55.640 but we talk about what they're doing to January sixth people and the right and 445 00:33:55.680 --> 00:34:01.880 stuff like that, and I just we can't say that January sixth prosecutors are 446 00:34:01.920 --> 00:34:07.480 going too far. And then back with Carthy, all I'm saying is all 447 00:34:07.519 --> 00:34:12.000 the same. And I'm not saying I back him. I'm just saying the 448 00:34:12.039 --> 00:34:16.480 man is just he's criticized till the cows come on. And he wasn't all 449 00:34:16.559 --> 00:34:22.119 bad. No, but there is and like I guess, like communism, 450 00:34:22.199 --> 00:34:24.119 there is a structure to this. I mean, and and you and I 451 00:34:24.159 --> 00:34:29.239 were talking about this before, is who the hell is paying for all of 452 00:34:29.239 --> 00:34:31.960 this? Well, he's paying for the tech. Like there's something there is 453 00:34:32.519 --> 00:34:36.280 and you and I talk about it all the time. Is you say what 454 00:34:36.360 --> 00:34:40.400 you want about the Democrats in the left, they are organized the minute something 455 00:34:40.519 --> 00:34:45.760 happens. There is this massive movement of it. And it's just they have 456 00:34:45.920 --> 00:34:51.480 their act together in a big way. But here's their achilles foot heel. 457 00:34:51.679 --> 00:34:58.239 I mean, you and I talked about this too. They just can't help 458 00:34:58.320 --> 00:35:02.039 themselves. No, they always have to go too far in their arrogance, 459 00:35:02.719 --> 00:35:07.079 thinking that they're right about everything. They always overdo it. What blows me 460 00:35:07.159 --> 00:35:12.559 away is this is you have mainstream Democrats, you know, whether it's people 461 00:35:12.599 --> 00:35:15.719 in Congress or whatever, talking heads that are coming out, even like you 462 00:35:15.719 --> 00:35:22.199 know, Mika and Joe on MSNBC coming out and saying these protests don't help. 463 00:35:22.639 --> 00:35:25.440 They're going to get Donald Trump elected. And these same people will show 464 00:35:25.559 --> 00:35:31.079 up at the Chicago convention and probably riot and probably protests, and then when 465 00:35:31.079 --> 00:35:37.239 Donald Trump is elected because of their violent protests, then they'll lose their mind. 466 00:35:37.360 --> 00:35:40.599 It is so it blows me away that they don't realize that their actions 467 00:35:40.679 --> 00:35:45.559 right now are going to put Donald Trump back into the ovall history repeating itself. 468 00:35:45.639 --> 00:35:49.119 Yeah, and then they'll they'll go nuts over that. It just don't 469 00:35:49.159 --> 00:35:52.400 make any sense. Well, I tell you the point you made. Who's 470 00:35:52.400 --> 00:35:58.920 paying for it? I think Congress are are are very slight Republican majority. 471 00:35:59.159 --> 00:36:01.400 I think they're going to rank up the Judiciary Committee or one of them and 472 00:36:01.880 --> 00:36:05.760 get to the bottom of it as best they can. Yeah, And that's 473 00:36:05.840 --> 00:36:09.119 like I said, Within twenty four hours of January sixth, people they knew 474 00:36:09.239 --> 00:36:14.519 everybody, they knew where they shop. The banks were giving over people's debit 475 00:36:14.599 --> 00:36:16.599 card purchases and stuff like that. If they wanted to find out, they 476 00:36:16.599 --> 00:36:21.119 could find out. But I won't hold my breath because we've seen how the 477 00:36:21.199 --> 00:36:24.320 Justice Department. Do you think it might be a two tier justice system? 478 00:36:24.639 --> 00:36:30.400 I mean when the guys who's running against you is looking at like seven hundred 479 00:36:30.519 --> 00:36:34.119 years of prison. Yeah, and that's the other thing too. You got 480 00:36:34.159 --> 00:36:38.599 to wonder, and we're going to talk to Steve about the trial is is 481 00:36:38.760 --> 00:36:42.880 you think they really wanted this one to be the one that's right before the 482 00:36:42.920 --> 00:36:45.679 election. Well, we shall see. Hey, we got to take a 483 00:36:45.719 --> 00:36:50.000 break and we get back. We're going to talk to legal analyst extraordinary, 484 00:36:50.039 --> 00:36:54.760 Steve Gooden. Steve's a former federal prosecutor, military prosecutor, and county prosecutor. 485 00:36:55.480 --> 00:37:01.360 He's been watching the trial since the very very beginning and he's an excellent, 486 00:37:01.920 --> 00:37:07.360 excellent legal analyst. And I think you're going to want to hear what 487 00:37:07.400 --> 00:37:10.000 he says, sir, And we'll do that when we get back. Mike 488 00:37:10.039 --> 00:37:15.760 Allen, Mike Allen Jr. We will talk to Steve when we get back. 489 00:37:16.519 --> 00:37:21.000 I don't know you said you saw something just before Mike as we got 490 00:37:21.039 --> 00:37:27.119 the TVs on here in a room. What was it about, uh about 491 00:37:27.159 --> 00:37:30.960 Trump? Something about oh yeah, he's got something's going on with the feds. 492 00:37:31.000 --> 00:37:35.679 They they said something about how some of the evidence coming in and we 493 00:37:35.719 --> 00:37:38.000 can maybe talk to Steve about this is getting thrown out of the classified documents. 494 00:37:38.039 --> 00:37:42.239 The oh okay, yeah, yeah, they're admitting it. So finally 495 00:37:42.320 --> 00:37:44.679 we'll ask him about that, and we'll do that when we get back. 496 00:37:45.079 --> 00:38:29.920 Mike Allen Mike Allen Jr. In on a Sunday night for Willie Willie the 497 00:38:30.039 --> 00:38:34.239 Ball, Love You by Choice Hotels, Econo Lodge and Roadway In Hotels are 498 00:38:34.280 --> 00:38:38.199 serving up double points. We're overqualifying. Stay book at Choice Hotels dot com. 499 00:38:38.239 --> 00:38:43.880 Now here's the man who's been recognized as radio's best, the recipient of 500 00:38:43.960 --> 00:38:49.559 not one, but two prestigious Marconi Awards for his broadcast excellence, the one 501 00:38:49.559 --> 00:38:54.239 and only Bill Cunningham. Bo I'm sorry, not Bill Cunningham. You got 502 00:38:54.239 --> 00:38:59.360 Mike Allen, Mike Allen Jr. And we are still working on our first 503 00:38:59.400 --> 00:39:02.000 Marconi. Yeah, maybe we can split one. Yeah, there you go. 504 00:39:02.519 --> 00:39:07.840 Hey, listen, we had the Manhattan hush money trial. It really 505 00:39:07.920 --> 00:39:12.559 got kicking gear this week. I think it's the third week when you count 506 00:39:13.079 --> 00:39:17.159 jury selection, which I was surprised how quickly they got a Joyeah, you 507 00:39:17.199 --> 00:39:21.159 know, I've shocked to even got one. I know, I know it's 508 00:39:21.199 --> 00:39:23.199 going to be interesting. But anyway, we are going to talk to a 509 00:39:23.239 --> 00:39:28.840 man who's been following this thing from Jump, and that's legal analyst extraordinary, 510 00:39:28.840 --> 00:39:34.239 Steve Gooden. Steve's a former federal prosecutor, a military former military prosecutor, 511 00:39:34.559 --> 00:39:42.039 former county prosecutor. He is now with the law firm Porter right in Cincinnati. 512 00:39:42.079 --> 00:39:45.880 Steve, thanks for calling in, Hey, thanks for having me, 513 00:39:45.920 --> 00:39:49.239 Mike and Mike my pleasure. Hey, can you just kind of give us 514 00:39:49.239 --> 00:39:53.639 a rundown of where things stand with the trial? Now? Yeah, you 515 00:39:53.679 --> 00:39:58.559 know, it's one of the strangest trials really in American history. It's a 516 00:39:58.599 --> 00:40:02.559 thirty four count and dyet that's kind of based on this concept that Trump and 517 00:40:04.519 --> 00:40:09.280 basically falsified a series of business records to high payments he made to Stormy Daniels 518 00:40:09.280 --> 00:40:15.519 into the National Inquirer to help cover up other alleged affairs or indiscretions that he 519 00:40:15.639 --> 00:40:22.079 might have had. And it's the whole concept here. Is that those funds 520 00:40:22.239 --> 00:40:28.079 would have been campaign contributions had they not been masked as legal fees. So 521 00:40:28.199 --> 00:40:31.840 that's really the whole grabaman of the case. It's this idea that he hid 522 00:40:31.920 --> 00:40:39.719 these personal indiscretions not for personal reasons, but for political reasons. And his 523 00:40:39.800 --> 00:40:44.960 defense is bluntly what they're calling the Milania defense, which is, you know, 524 00:40:45.079 --> 00:40:49.920 I had other reasons to keep these things quiet. Yes, absolutely, 525 00:40:50.119 --> 00:40:54.280 and that's really what his attorneys previewed in their opening statements. So we're about 526 00:40:54.440 --> 00:41:00.119 two and a half weeks into the prosecution's case, and it's a very interesting 527 00:41:00.159 --> 00:41:04.960 one, and that you know, two of their key witnesses are Michael Cohen, 528 00:41:05.039 --> 00:41:08.239 who who has now been a convicted perjurer and someone who has admitted to 529 00:41:08.800 --> 00:41:15.440 campaign finance violations and has actually served from jail time. And Stormy Daniels, 530 00:41:15.480 --> 00:41:22.400 who apparently did have some sort of affair with Trump or encounter with Trump, 531 00:41:23.199 --> 00:41:25.880 and is also you know, works in the sex industry and in the borne 532 00:41:25.920 --> 00:41:30.000 industry, so their credibility isn't the best. So what these prosecutors are very 533 00:41:30.039 --> 00:41:36.199 smartly doing is they're trying to minimize the impact of their testimony by calling a 534 00:41:36.199 --> 00:41:39.119 bunch of other witnesses from what I would call Trump World, people who were 535 00:41:39.519 --> 00:41:45.119 friendly with Trump, to try to build sort of a predicative facts around so 536 00:41:45.159 --> 00:41:49.440 that we're really not so the jury isn't wholly reliant upon these two individuals, 537 00:41:49.480 --> 00:41:54.159 Cohen and Stormy Daniels, who are going to get obviously eviscerated on cross examination. 538 00:41:54.760 --> 00:41:58.880 So that's where we are, and really what happened last you know, 539 00:41:58.960 --> 00:42:01.920 the first witness was and again you can't make this stuff up, but getting 540 00:42:02.000 --> 00:42:07.199 Nelson Pecker, who formerly was the publisher of the National Inquirer, who was 541 00:42:07.199 --> 00:42:12.320 one of Trump's really good friends and who helped facilitate some of these payments. 542 00:42:12.599 --> 00:42:15.159 We also heard very quickly from another lawyer who was sort of engaged in this. 543 00:42:15.239 --> 00:42:21.480 But Friday was kind of the first real strong witness who was from the 544 00:42:21.679 --> 00:42:24.800 formerly from the Trump inner circle. Her name was Hope Hicks, and Hope 545 00:42:24.840 --> 00:42:30.000 Hicks had gone to work for Trump in the Trump organization before he got into 546 00:42:30.039 --> 00:42:34.760 politics, basically right out of college. She was the only only boss she'd 547 00:42:34.800 --> 00:42:39.599 ever had. She was part of his press operation. She basically ran the 548 00:42:39.639 --> 00:42:45.039 press operation for the campaign in twenty sixteen and then went on to the White 549 00:42:45.039 --> 00:42:47.280 House with him, left briefly and then came back to the White House again 550 00:42:47.360 --> 00:42:52.360 in twenty nineteen and twenty to help with that campaign. And her testimony was 551 00:42:52.400 --> 00:42:57.920 both good and bad for Trump. I mean, she basically testified that, 552 00:42:58.079 --> 00:43:00.639 yes, we where I was, we were, we were aware of these 553 00:43:00.679 --> 00:43:07.280 allegations that Trump would often overrule us and put out his own tweets and press 554 00:43:07.320 --> 00:43:10.480 releases, which seems very consistent with everything that we've heard. So she did 555 00:43:10.519 --> 00:43:15.039 put him right in the mix of making decisions about what the public would know 556 00:43:15.199 --> 00:43:20.599 and wouldn't know. But at the same time, on cross examination, she 557 00:43:20.760 --> 00:43:23.639 broke down and cried, and she told the story that I that seemed very 558 00:43:23.639 --> 00:43:30.679 impactful about how worried Trump was about Malania hearing about this, and that the 559 00:43:30.800 --> 00:43:36.760 day that this broke in the press, he actually instructed the doorman at Trump 560 00:43:36.800 --> 00:43:39.639 Tower to pull all the newspapers so that Milania wouldn't, you know, possibly 561 00:43:39.639 --> 00:43:45.079 see right. So, so you know, that was that was a powerful, 562 00:43:45.480 --> 00:43:47.760 powerful moment as well. So she she kind of, you know, 563 00:43:47.840 --> 00:43:52.920 she gave to both sides here. She clearly did kind of at least advance 564 00:43:52.039 --> 00:43:57.960 the idea the prosecution wanted her to advance, which was that there were some 565 00:43:58.119 --> 00:44:01.920 campaign considerations here, sure in terms of why they did this, but also 566 00:44:02.119 --> 00:44:07.199 she she also you know, basically kind of gave some help to the defense 567 00:44:07.280 --> 00:44:10.280 by saying, well, but it was more complicated than that, Steve. 568 00:44:12.760 --> 00:44:16.280 Another you know, sort of side show to this entire circus is the gag 569 00:44:16.400 --> 00:44:22.320 order. Judge Murshawn slapped Trump with thousands of dollars and sanctions and even threatened 570 00:44:22.360 --> 00:44:29.679 him with incarceration for future violations of this gag order, all the while Michael 571 00:44:29.719 --> 00:44:32.639 Cohen is free to talk trash to Donald Trump over social media until he's blue 572 00:44:32.679 --> 00:44:37.960 in the face. In my view, and you know, we're all lawyers 573 00:44:37.960 --> 00:44:40.519 here. In my view, the order and even the sanctions with the order 574 00:44:40.599 --> 00:44:45.960 are wildly, for lack of a better term, unconstitutional. What are your 575 00:44:45.000 --> 00:44:49.880 thoughts on that, Well, you know they're there. I don't know if 576 00:44:49.880 --> 00:44:53.079 they're unconstitutional per se, but they're certainly unworkable here. Now. You know, 577 00:44:53.159 --> 00:44:57.840 I've practiced it in New York a bit. You know, I prohacked 578 00:44:57.880 --> 00:45:01.760 in there over the years, and they're very limited, the judges in New 579 00:45:01.840 --> 00:45:05.880 York in terms of what they can do for criminal contempt. You can basically 580 00:45:05.880 --> 00:45:08.679 find someone three thousand dollars per time or give them up to thirty days in 581 00:45:08.800 --> 00:45:14.079 jail. So that's really all this guy can do. And gag orders in 582 00:45:14.079 --> 00:45:17.800 criminal cases, you know, they're not that uncommon. But we've never had 583 00:45:17.960 --> 00:45:22.239 a situation in our two hundred and thirty four years as a constitutional democracy in 584 00:45:22.280 --> 00:45:28.440 which a presidential candidate has been on final Yeah. Okay, so during a 585 00:45:28.519 --> 00:45:32.719 campaign, right, So that's where the constitutional overlay has to come in. 586 00:45:34.119 --> 00:45:37.360 I mean Trump's team has chosen not to litigate this. I mean I think 587 00:45:37.400 --> 00:45:40.760 there would be an argument that there's a federal, a constitutional case that could 588 00:45:40.760 --> 00:45:45.039 be brought here, but of course the timing is such that it doesn't make 589 00:45:45.079 --> 00:45:46.239 a lot of sense probably for them. But yes, I mean, his 590 00:45:46.400 --> 00:45:52.760 rights as a candidate to political speech should trump anything that this gag order puts 591 00:45:52.760 --> 00:45:54.480 in place. I mean, typically gag orders in a criminal case are there 592 00:45:54.519 --> 00:46:00.960 to avoid people disparaging or threatening or intimidating witnesses. We have a case where 593 00:46:00.000 --> 00:46:02.639 at least three or four of the people are public figures. I mean, 594 00:46:02.679 --> 00:46:07.480 this Nelson Pecker guy's a public figure, as you alluded to. Michael Cohen 595 00:46:07.559 --> 00:46:12.400 actually has a podcast in which he called me a kulpa, and he talks 596 00:46:12.440 --> 00:46:15.760 about the case NonStop. That's how he meets his living now is as a 597 00:46:15.800 --> 00:46:22.000 podcaster. And Stormy Daniels apparently has a like a three or four hour documentary 598 00:46:22.119 --> 00:46:27.280 series about her life in the case in Trump that's on Netflix right now. 599 00:46:27.320 --> 00:46:30.920 So they seem to be not only able to talk about it, but talk 600 00:46:30.960 --> 00:46:34.800 about it for profit. And Trump is, of course totally can't do anything. 601 00:46:34.800 --> 00:46:37.599 He was fine nine thousand dollars last week, which is a drop in 602 00:46:37.639 --> 00:46:40.880 the bucket. But I found this fascinating. On Friday, the Wall Street 603 00:46:40.960 --> 00:46:45.800 Journal reported that the Secret Service has had meetings about what to do if Trump 604 00:46:46.000 --> 00:46:51.360 is actually given thirty days in jail's criminal contempt, because they would have to 605 00:46:51.360 --> 00:46:54.920 provide protection for him there. And I can't see now Mershan is conflicted and 606 00:46:54.960 --> 00:46:59.920 has his own issues this judge, But again, I cannot see him pulling 607 00:47:00.800 --> 00:47:05.920 a presidential candidate off the campaign trail and putting him in jail for a court 608 00:47:06.039 --> 00:47:09.519 order that arguably conflicts with his rights to political speech. So it's the bizarre. 609 00:47:10.920 --> 00:47:15.000 It's the bizarre. We're in an upside down world. Yeah, we 610 00:47:15.039 --> 00:47:19.519 are talking to legal analysts. Steve Gooden Steve you alluded to just before Judge 611 00:47:19.559 --> 00:47:25.760 Mersham's conflicts. Of course, you know that lawyers obviously can't have any impropriety 612 00:47:25.800 --> 00:47:30.760 if you will, with their client's dealings with them and everything else. And 613 00:47:30.800 --> 00:47:36.920 we also have to avoid the appearance of impropriety. This guy's daughter, and 614 00:47:36.960 --> 00:47:39.960 Trump's been all over it. She's a consult political consultant. She raised ninety 615 00:47:40.000 --> 00:47:47.880 three million bucks and use this case in solicitation emails. She works for or 616 00:47:47.920 --> 00:47:53.599 did at least one time work for Adam Shiff It's amazing, and the judge 617 00:47:53.599 --> 00:47:58.599 contributed to Joe Biden's twenty twenty campaign. Now, in fairness, it was 618 00:47:58.639 --> 00:48:01.760 only fifteen bucks, but still, Oh, it's the appearance of impropriety. 619 00:48:02.159 --> 00:48:08.079 Your thoughts on that, well, I think their approach is there's nothing to 620 00:48:08.119 --> 00:48:12.880 see here. No, of course, there's an obvious appearance of impropriety, 621 00:48:12.960 --> 00:48:16.039 and I just under the laws of a lot of different states, I don't 622 00:48:16.079 --> 00:48:19.960 see how Mrshaunt could stay on the case. But again, there's there's been 623 00:48:20.039 --> 00:48:24.800 this awful appearance of political impropriety about this case from the beginning. I mean 624 00:48:24.880 --> 00:48:31.000 recalled like the federal prosecutors looked at this whole campaign finance theory and passed on 625 00:48:31.079 --> 00:48:36.199 this case. Yeah, but yet an elected prosecutor, Alan Brat took the 626 00:48:36.239 --> 00:48:40.639 case and he's brought it forward. So there's there's politics right there. Mershawn 627 00:48:40.679 --> 00:48:44.960 is an elected judge and a deep blue city, you know, in New 628 00:48:45.039 --> 00:48:47.800 York City, in Manhattan proper. So I mean, I mean, nothing 629 00:48:47.880 --> 00:48:52.719 surprises me here. But no, I mean I think most judges, certainly 630 00:48:52.800 --> 00:48:57.199 most elected state court judges throughout the country, if they had a daughter who 631 00:48:57.239 --> 00:49:00.920 was involved in this in political activity, that alone would be enough reason for 632 00:49:01.000 --> 00:49:06.880 them to step aside just so their judgment wouldn't be questioned. What's really fascinating 633 00:49:06.880 --> 00:49:09.760 and what could be a teed up for tomorrow morning is over the weekend, 634 00:49:10.320 --> 00:49:20.440 Trump, using his truth social retweeted a Steve Bannon clip going after Mershaw's daughter. 635 00:49:20.639 --> 00:49:22.440 It's almost like he's sort of just putting his thumb right in the judges. 636 00:49:22.440 --> 00:49:24.599 I have to see what he'll do in terms of the gag order. 637 00:49:24.920 --> 00:49:29.079 So that happened on Saturday, it happened yesterday, So we'll see what the 638 00:49:29.159 --> 00:49:32.039 judge has to say about it. Tomorrow. I'll get Trump will be hey, 639 00:49:32.159 --> 00:49:37.079 I didn't say it, but I'm kind of retweeting it and reposting it. 640 00:49:37.079 --> 00:49:40.159 It's pretty tough stuff. So we'll see, we'll see what happens. 641 00:49:40.199 --> 00:49:45.519 But that's like heve that very much he's aware of and it's one of the 642 00:49:45.519 --> 00:49:49.440 reasons I think when you look at the polling that a lot of people seem 643 00:49:49.480 --> 00:49:52.679 to be giving Trump the benefit of the doubt about this. I see that 644 00:49:52.719 --> 00:49:55.320 the judge is an issue. They see the prosecutors an issue, and they 645 00:49:55.360 --> 00:49:59.920 read these charges and they don't really understand them. I mean, they very 646 00:50:00.159 --> 00:50:04.760 uncommon sort of legal theory to go after someone, certainly on a criminal basis. 647 00:50:04.840 --> 00:50:07.199 Yep, it's Steve, you know, like you we were talking about 648 00:50:07.239 --> 00:50:14.719 before. Obviously the man we're all waiting for is Michael Cohen. It looks 649 00:50:14.760 --> 00:50:17.840 like the state may be close to wrapping it up. I'm guessing he's probably 650 00:50:17.920 --> 00:50:21.239 going to be the last witness, or one of the last ones. I 651 00:50:21.239 --> 00:50:23.599 would imagine, how much longer do you think this thing's going to go? 652 00:50:23.679 --> 00:50:28.400 And when do you think we'll see Michael Cohen? Well, a lot of 653 00:50:28.400 --> 00:50:31.400 the experts seem to think that it's going to probably the prosecution case goes another 654 00:50:31.440 --> 00:50:35.559 two weeks, So I mean, if you remember this judge does not he 655 00:50:35.679 --> 00:50:39.599 has a civil docket on Wednesdays. Yeah, so he only goes four days 656 00:50:39.599 --> 00:50:43.639 a week, and he goes eight thirty to four thirty and stops properly at 657 00:50:43.679 --> 00:50:45.960 four thirty. So there's a lot of stops and starts, and then there's 658 00:50:46.039 --> 00:50:50.480 usually about a half a day somewhere to talk about contempt in that. So 659 00:50:50.559 --> 00:50:53.159 you really got about three and a half days of testimony a week. Now, 660 00:50:53.239 --> 00:50:57.440 if these guys are going to follow the regular sort of like the even 661 00:50:57.440 --> 00:51:00.880 though they're not federal prosecutors, it's there's a former federal prosecutions involved in this 662 00:51:00.960 --> 00:51:07.159 case. The typical playbook will be to try to make Michael Cohen what they 663 00:51:07.159 --> 00:51:09.239 call a sandwich witness, which, as you know, you got to call 664 00:51:09.320 --> 00:51:13.039 him, but he's difficult. You're going to try to put him in between 665 00:51:13.079 --> 00:51:16.159 some really good ones. So I think it's conceivable that they call him toward 666 00:51:16.199 --> 00:51:21.079 the end of this coming week. Just again, I wouldn't want to end 667 00:51:21.199 --> 00:51:23.159 with him, and I sure wouldn't want to begin with him, So I 668 00:51:23.199 --> 00:51:28.599 would want to put he and Miss Daniels in there somewhere in the middle around 669 00:51:29.239 --> 00:51:34.880 more credible non felons to try to capture their testimony, so you don't end 670 00:51:34.920 --> 00:51:37.559 on that note. Stee, We're running out of time here, but I 671 00:51:37.599 --> 00:51:39.199 want to ask you this question. I think we got a little bit under 672 00:51:39.239 --> 00:51:45.880 a minute. Do you think there is any way on this earth that he 673 00:51:46.000 --> 00:51:52.599 is acquitted of these charges? You know, I think there is a possibility. 674 00:51:52.599 --> 00:51:54.079 And again I'm sort of in the minority of that, but I keep 675 00:51:54.119 --> 00:52:00.920 looking at that John Edwards case in twenty twelve or twenty thirteen North Carolina, 676 00:52:00.239 --> 00:52:04.960 where he was charged with essentially the same thing, a different set of laws, 677 00:52:04.960 --> 00:52:08.519 but he was accused of using actual campaign dollars, not personal dollars like 678 00:52:08.719 --> 00:52:14.199 nd IT here, but campaign dollars to basically pay off a mistress with whom 679 00:52:14.239 --> 00:52:19.840 he had had a child during the campaign two ten or twelve campaign, and 680 00:52:19.880 --> 00:52:22.920 he was acquitted, wasn't there He was acquitted, Well, he was acquitted 681 00:52:22.920 --> 00:52:27.760 on one count and they deadlocked on the jury deadlocked on the others, and 682 00:52:27.800 --> 00:52:30.079 then they just adopted not to retry him. And his defense was essentially a 683 00:52:30.159 --> 00:52:32.320 version of the Milannia defense, which was, hey, I didn't want to 684 00:52:32.320 --> 00:52:37.719 tell my wife and who was very sick at the time and actually passed away 685 00:52:37.719 --> 00:52:40.840 shortly after the charges were brought, so you know, the jury, the 686 00:52:40.920 --> 00:52:45.039 jury really struggled with it. And and a lot of this I think will 687 00:52:45.039 --> 00:52:51.400 depend on whether or not Trump indeed testifies and asserts that defense. And I 688 00:52:51.440 --> 00:52:57.519 think that's a very real possibility. And remember these in the lawsuit about the 689 00:52:57.920 --> 00:53:01.199 NDA that she signed. You know, his lawyers have essentially admitted what happened. 690 00:53:01.239 --> 00:53:04.159 I do. I think he's really going to be in the position to 691 00:53:04.239 --> 00:53:08.679 deny that something happened between he and Stormy. Yeah, it'll it'll be interesting, 692 00:53:08.760 --> 00:53:13.119 Steve. Unfortunately we're out of time, but we should spend more time 693 00:53:13.159 --> 00:53:16.360 on this. But really appreciate your input on this. Obviously you've been watching 694 00:53:16.360 --> 00:53:22.320 this thing closely and I'm sure we'll be checking in with you again. Hey, 695 00:53:22.360 --> 00:53:24.159 it's my privilege. Thanks gentlemen. Good evening, Okay, you too, 696 00:53:24.199 --> 00:53:28.239 Thank you. Mike Allan, Mike Allen Jr. In for the Great 697 00:53:28.280 --> 00:53:40.159 American Bill Cunningham. Got to take a break. We'll be back. We 698 00:53:40.280 --> 00:53:44.880 are back, Mike Allan, Mike Allen Jr. In for the Great American 699 00:53:44.920 --> 00:53:49.960 Willie Cunningham, who will be back next Sunday. That was a good interview 700 00:53:49.960 --> 00:53:52.280 with Steve don't you think that was his stuff? Man, I'll tell you 701 00:53:52.280 --> 00:53:55.119 what. He pays attention to it. Yeah, it is, uh anything 702 00:53:55.159 --> 00:53:59.960 you disagree with that, he said, Uh No, It's just the thing 703 00:54:00.079 --> 00:54:04.800 it's just been astonishing to me is how this entire thing a was indicted. 704 00:54:04.840 --> 00:54:09.639 How you stretch thirty four counts into one transaction. I mean it's like each 705 00:54:09.760 --> 00:54:14.800 count is one dot of an I and cross of a T or something like 706 00:54:14.840 --> 00:54:19.599 that. But so you have a judge that's totally conflicted, I mean absolutely 707 00:54:19.679 --> 00:54:23.639 conflicted. You have a prosecutor that is taking the place of a guy in 708 00:54:24.039 --> 00:54:30.719 Alan Bragg that his predecessor didn't bring the charge, the federal government didn't bring 709 00:54:30.760 --> 00:54:35.639 the charge. You're prosecuting a federal crime in state court. Does happen? 710 00:54:35.840 --> 00:54:39.000 Right? And then on top of all of it, you slap a gag 711 00:54:39.119 --> 00:54:44.239 order on a guy who's running for president how many months out from the election. 712 00:54:44.360 --> 00:54:46.760 I mean, it's just that's the thing is you and I have talked 713 00:54:46.760 --> 00:54:50.960 about this, and everybody knows it, but you and I really know this. 714 00:54:51.000 --> 00:54:55.159 When you lose the justice system, when you lose the appearance of fairness 715 00:54:55.159 --> 00:55:00.119 in the justice system, you are now living in a Banana Republic. This 716 00:55:00.039 --> 00:55:02.400 is third world crap, that's what it's turning into. Yeah, I mean, 717 00:55:02.559 --> 00:55:06.519 yeah, it really is. Let me ask you what I asked Steve, 718 00:55:07.079 --> 00:55:10.960 and I know you followed it too. Do you think given the jury 719 00:55:12.000 --> 00:55:15.400 and they got two lawyers on the jury, which is interesting, But given 720 00:55:15.639 --> 00:55:20.360 the jury, and given the fact that I think the district is like ninety 721 00:55:20.440 --> 00:55:24.320 two percent voted for Biden, do you see any chance of an acquittal? 722 00:55:24.440 --> 00:55:28.119 Yeah? Yeah, And it's simply for the reason that you and I both 723 00:55:28.159 --> 00:55:30.760 know is you never know what a jury's gonna do you know what I mean. 724 00:55:30.840 --> 00:55:31.840 I mean, it's just that means like a tagging, right, they 725 00:55:31.840 --> 00:55:36.039 could tag him, but the answer they could they find him not guilty. 726 00:55:36.159 --> 00:55:40.320 Yeah, And I think it is if you're on this jury, you have 727 00:55:40.400 --> 00:55:45.199 to be able to ask yourself what's more important to me my own partisan bull 728 00:55:45.239 --> 00:55:47.519 crap or the legitimacy of the system. And I find it very hard to 729 00:55:47.519 --> 00:55:52.519 believe that that many people. There's not you know, a fair amount of 730 00:55:52.519 --> 00:55:54.199 them that could say hey, and you know, you look at some of 731 00:55:54.199 --> 00:56:00.480 the ones that during juris selection, Donald Trump's attorneys bounced a lot. They 732 00:56:00.519 --> 00:56:01.880 seem like they and then they found out that, you know, they had 733 00:56:01.920 --> 00:56:06.679 some seated that had backgrounds that people didn't know about, and they yanked them 734 00:56:06.719 --> 00:56:08.639 off the jury. So I mean, yeah, I mean anything could happen. 735 00:56:08.639 --> 00:56:12.039 I don't think so. If I had to make a prediction, I 736 00:56:12.079 --> 00:56:15.360 think they're going to hang. That's exactly what I think too. And you 737 00:56:15.440 --> 00:56:20.559 mentioned something that I had forgotten about. His attorneys really did work the dire 738 00:56:20.679 --> 00:56:23.320 process. I mean even to the point where, from what I understand, 739 00:56:23.400 --> 00:56:28.119 all the potential jurors, they got their social media history. Yeah, and 740 00:56:28.360 --> 00:56:30.360 in front of them with it. And you know what, you and I 741 00:56:30.400 --> 00:56:35.320 both be in trial lawyers. I'm afraid that that's the future. Yeah, 742 00:56:35.320 --> 00:56:38.199 this kind of stuff. Yeah, And that's the other thing you talk about 743 00:56:38.199 --> 00:56:42.559 the future is where does this end? I mean truly, where does this 744 00:56:42.719 --> 00:56:46.599 end? Because you ask yourself, could it be that maybe an attorney general 745 00:56:46.719 --> 00:56:52.440 or a county prosecutor in a deep Trump state when Joe Biden leaves office, 746 00:56:52.840 --> 00:56:57.599 decides to indict him in multiple jurisdictions. I mean that this is just a 747 00:56:58.039 --> 00:57:00.719 flagrant, flagrant abuse of power. You know as well as I do. 748 00:57:01.119 --> 00:57:07.840 In politics, there's this thing called payback, and it's sure as the sun 749 00:57:07.039 --> 00:57:12.119 rises tomorrow, you're going to have it, and it's going to be a 750 00:57:12.159 --> 00:57:15.159 problem. Well. Hey, even prosecutors a few months ago said Joe Biden's 751 00:57:15.159 --> 00:57:19.000 an old man that can't be processing. Oh that's right, he's probably not 752 00:57:19.079 --> 00:57:22.639 mentally compens You familiar the senile old man defense. Yeah, like Junior, 753 00:57:22.880 --> 00:57:24.679 listen, we gotta take a break. We'll be back. Mike Allen, 754 00:57:24.760 --> 00:57:42.559 Mike Allen Junior in for Willy. They we're back. Mike Allen Junior, 755 00:57:42.559 --> 00:57:47.559 Mike Allen Senior in for Willie on Sunday nights. Let's go to the calls 756 00:57:47.559 --> 00:57:52.119 here. Let's talk to h Edward in Tampa Bay. Edward wants to talk 757 00:57:52.159 --> 00:57:55.320 about immigration. What's going on? Edward? How you doing? Yeah, 758 00:57:55.480 --> 00:57:59.360 thank you guys. Well formerly of Chicago. It's going to be my one 759 00:57:59.400 --> 00:58:02.679 year anniverse in a couple of weeks. You made it out alive and without 760 00:58:02.719 --> 00:58:07.280 any bullet holes. So congratulating. Billy knows me. I've been calling him 761 00:58:07.280 --> 00:58:12.440 for years. But let me move on here to Mexico on the Sinko to 762 00:58:12.519 --> 00:58:19.239 Mao Day. Yeah, this speedboat and this has happened a second time. 763 00:58:19.320 --> 00:58:22.559 Newport Beach, California. Uh, let's speaking of finding people, let's hope 764 00:58:22.719 --> 00:58:30.440 they find those illegals that jumped off that speedboat. Yes, and speaking of 765 00:58:30.519 --> 00:58:34.960 Chicago, Uh, they believe this kid three years old got took it from 766 00:58:35.000 --> 00:58:39.519 one of the shelters. Surprise, surprise. And in Mexico. This is 767 00:58:39.599 --> 00:58:43.639 uh. I just saw this on the Spanish news as uh. You guys 768 00:58:43.639 --> 00:58:50.599 were on break Uh the Australian to Australians and the American. Apparently what they're 769 00:58:50.639 --> 00:58:54.400 saying is that they were going for their tires in that car jacking over there. 770 00:58:54.639 --> 00:58:59.360 Oh yeah, I know what you're talking about. That's so horrible. 771 00:59:00.840 --> 00:59:05.519 So it's just why are we even still going? Be said, it's celebrating 772 00:59:05.559 --> 00:59:07.440 to go to Maya. Why are we still going to Mexico? There's so 773 00:59:07.480 --> 00:59:10.199 many other places that you can I'll be honest. Here in the US, 774 00:59:10.320 --> 00:59:14.239 I think I would think twice before going on vacation down there. Man, 775 00:59:15.719 --> 00:59:17.480 you love it down there. I do love it there. Used to be. 776 00:59:17.840 --> 00:59:23.039 I think it's Dan taking Americans. I think they have they're pretty competent, 777 00:59:23.400 --> 00:59:25.800 they have the wins of the back. They have a weak administration, 778 00:59:27.320 --> 00:59:30.320 unlike the previous administration that they could just pick on anybody. Yeah, even 779 00:59:30.360 --> 00:59:34.480 Americans. Yeah, yeah, I totally agree, Edward. And that's the 780 00:59:34.559 --> 00:59:37.079 thing too, you were out there Americans, Yeah you're Americans. Yeah, 781 00:59:37.239 --> 00:59:40.679 yeah yeah. And that's the the all bets are off at the border at 782 00:59:40.679 --> 00:59:44.480 this point. I mean, the cartels know that they run the show and 783 00:59:44.519 --> 00:59:45.880 they can just do whatever the hell they want. You know, they're not 784 00:59:45.920 --> 00:59:51.559 scared on anybody. No hell nos, back in there. They'll have second 785 00:59:51.599 --> 00:59:53.320 thoughts there you go. Yeah, I would hope. So he did the 786 00:59:53.400 --> 00:59:59.079 job the first Thanks a lot, Edwards. Yeah. And to segue on 787 00:59:59.119 --> 01:00:01.440 that, you know, we talk about the open border, and there's been 788 01:00:01.480 --> 01:00:05.559 plenty of people and I saw somebody and it might have been on Fox News 789 01:00:05.639 --> 01:00:08.840 Sunday today, some Democrat on their shilling and saying and saying, well, 790 01:00:08.840 --> 01:00:14.239 there hasn't been any terrorist a terrorist attack yet, and it's like, well, 791 01:00:14.280 --> 01:00:17.000 wait a minute, there's all these people on the terror watch list coming 792 01:00:17.039 --> 01:00:21.800 across the border. And to that point, we're talking about what's going on 793 01:00:21.840 --> 01:00:25.119 in the college campuses with with you know, the Jews and the anti Semitism 794 01:00:25.119 --> 01:00:29.559 in the back last with October seventh and all of that, you know, 795 01:00:29.800 --> 01:00:35.199 rather than doing something proactive, you know, I'm talking about President Biden doing 796 01:00:35.280 --> 01:00:39.039 something proactive to help everyday Americans, i e. Everyday Jewish Americans with kids 797 01:00:39.039 --> 01:00:43.440 in college. His solution now, and we all know how he is on 798 01:00:43.559 --> 01:00:46.320 taking action. The action he's taking now is proposing that we bring in more 799 01:00:46.360 --> 01:00:52.159 Palestinian refugees. Oh, it's just it's I could not believe my job about 800 01:00:52.239 --> 01:00:57.480 drop to the It's almost like he's doing this stuff on purpose. Yes, 801 01:00:57.639 --> 01:01:04.480 yeah, yeah. And what's what's what's scary about it is is you wonder 802 01:01:04.519 --> 01:01:06.920 how it hasn't happened yet? Do you know what I mean? Like, 803 01:01:07.679 --> 01:01:10.480 how when you have a completely open southern border on top of this guy wanting 804 01:01:10.519 --> 01:01:15.639 to bring in Palestinian refugees, how it hasn't happened yet. But I mean 805 01:01:15.679 --> 01:01:17.719 that's the other thing too, is you got all these college kids running around 806 01:01:17.840 --> 01:01:22.159 dressed like terrorists. Hey, if they need somewhere to stay, they can 807 01:01:22.199 --> 01:01:24.320 go stay, you know, in a in a building that's been commondeer to 808 01:01:24.400 --> 01:01:28.199 Colombia, you know, the University of Columbia. I don't know, it's 809 01:01:28.239 --> 01:01:30.800 just we live in clow Way. It's it's the bizarro world. I mean, 810 01:01:31.159 --> 01:01:37.760 we've already got Syrians We've got Iranians, we got Chinese, we got 811 01:01:37.840 --> 01:01:42.440 Russian. Why do we need Palestinians? Now? I get it. We 812 01:01:42.559 --> 01:01:46.519 are a humanitarian country, we help people. I get all that. But 813 01:01:46.719 --> 01:01:52.679 at some point don't you have to say, hey, enough, we're gonna 814 01:01:52.679 --> 01:01:57.719 start concentrating on Americans. Yeah yeah, And he, you know, finally 815 01:01:57.760 --> 01:02:00.239 came out and said something Thursday talking about sleep Joe. And of course he's 816 01:02:00.280 --> 01:02:04.760 weeks too late. And we all know what happened. The White House saw 817 01:02:04.800 --> 01:02:07.400 the polling on the issue and realized, oh crap, we got to trot 818 01:02:07.440 --> 01:02:09.719 him out there. That's how he does it. But the problem is a 819 01:02:09.760 --> 01:02:16.320 timely and you know, full throated condemnation of anti Semitic protests at college campuses 820 01:02:16.400 --> 01:02:20.079 is what you would expect from the American president. But what we got was 821 01:02:20.480 --> 01:02:23.440 a wishy washy condemnation of this, but a reminder that we all should keep 822 01:02:23.440 --> 01:02:28.400 an eye out for islamophobis. Oh yeah, well that's going to pick him 823 01:02:28.480 --> 01:02:31.679 up a couple hundred votes. Somebody, please please point it out to me. 824 01:02:31.800 --> 01:02:37.719 Find me some evidence of Islamophobia at these college campus protests. Will I 825 01:02:37.800 --> 01:02:40.599 will pay you if you can find it for me. Well, and they 826 01:02:40.599 --> 01:02:45.880 also criticized the cops, calling him racist. There was a black cop and 827 01:02:45.239 --> 01:02:50.159 I heard one of these idiots yelling at him, calling him and uncle Tom. 828 01:02:50.199 --> 01:02:52.159 Oh yeah, I've heard. I heard some of them calling them the 829 01:02:52.280 --> 01:02:54.400 N word. And what's astonishing to me is these same people are the ones 830 01:02:54.440 --> 01:02:59.719 that were last summer protesting in the Black Lives Matter protest. But if he's 831 01:02:59.760 --> 01:03:02.280 a he's not really black, That's what It's just like black Republicans. If 832 01:03:02.280 --> 01:03:06.840 they're black and a Republican, well they're not really black. Well yeah, 833 01:03:06.920 --> 01:03:09.119 all right, Well let's talk to Paul in Idaho. Hey Paul, thank 834 01:03:09.159 --> 01:03:15.960 you for hanging in there with us. Hello Paul, Yeah, what you 835 01:03:16.079 --> 01:03:22.519 got? Well, one thing I want to discuss first, Two things quick. 836 01:03:23.599 --> 01:03:31.519 One is we're spending we're spending an eighth of our military hardware an armament 837 01:03:31.719 --> 01:03:42.679 money on three things. One is undeniable and needed by by the Jews. 838 01:03:43.400 --> 01:03:46.960 They've got to have it. They're fighting five different countries at one time. 839 01:03:47.599 --> 01:03:52.239 Do they need to back up? Yeah, then they've got to have the 840 01:03:52.280 --> 01:03:57.639 money. In the Ukraine, you can't say no to him. They are 841 01:03:57.800 --> 01:04:04.559 trying to become a democratic Nathan similar tours. You can't deny that even with 842 01:04:04.639 --> 01:04:10.960 Biden pulling all the Shenanigans, he bowled in there holding the billion dollars, 843 01:04:11.599 --> 01:04:15.920 getting the Senate job there, hold him in the gunpoint for money, you 844 01:04:16.039 --> 01:04:21.039 name it. And then on top of those two, then you've got Taiwan. 845 01:04:23.159 --> 01:04:25.639 Yeah, you know, no idea what they's got planned for that, 846 01:04:25.719 --> 01:04:30.880 But it has to be operation next thing that's gonna go off, Paul. 847 01:04:30.960 --> 01:04:38.239 I'm afraid I'm surprised it hasn't already. Well, we shall say I appreciate 848 01:04:38.239 --> 01:04:40.440 the call, Paul. We got a bunch of people, thank you. 849 01:04:41.280 --> 01:04:44.679 Yeah, you know what, you haven't heard anything about the situation in Taiwan. 850 01:04:44.800 --> 01:04:46.239 Well, it's I've said it last time we were on here. I 851 01:04:46.239 --> 01:04:50.599 said, Jesingping is negligent if he doesn't make a move before November. I 852 01:04:50.639 --> 01:04:55.199 don't understand. I'm not a stupid man. Well, is he gonna make 853 01:04:55.239 --> 01:04:58.840 it under Donald Trump? No? Absolutely not. And that's what that's. 854 01:04:58.880 --> 01:05:00.960 You know, we didn't see and make a move on Ukraine with Donald Trump. 855 01:05:01.039 --> 01:05:05.079 So I'll tell you what. It is a scary world we live in. 856 01:05:05.159 --> 01:05:10.079 Let's talk to John in Minnesota. Hey, John, how you doing 857 01:05:11.440 --> 01:05:18.639 good? Thanks guys here Fox News and CNN reported today that Biden is suspending 858 01:05:18.760 --> 01:05:27.119 shipment of ammunition to Israel. Oh really, all I possible. I mean, 859 01:05:27.239 --> 01:05:32.199 he's forcing them into a ceasefire and they have to do what they have 860 01:05:32.320 --> 01:05:39.280 to finish the job. Now, Biden came out pretty strong immediately after ten 861 01:05:39.440 --> 01:05:44.960 seven, but then when he started getting blowback from the Michigan contingent, he 862 01:05:45.079 --> 01:05:48.440 started buckling, and he's gotten worse and worse and worse. Then. This 863 01:05:49.039 --> 01:05:57.239 plan to bring over Palestinian civilians, Yeah, great, it's ridiculous because the 864 01:05:59.000 --> 01:06:08.039 a third three quarters of the Palestinian civilians agree with hamas they elected. I 865 01:06:08.079 --> 01:06:15.239 don't think there's a damn dimes worth of difference between Amas and the Palestinians. 866 01:06:15.480 --> 01:06:18.039 John, I got to ask you again, did you say that you saw 867 01:06:18.679 --> 01:06:28.039 where Biden is cutting off the military aid for Israel. There's suspending shipments of 868 01:06:28.079 --> 01:06:32.800 ammunition. This was reported on the Fox News Ding and CNN great yesterday. 869 01:06:33.039 --> 01:06:36.039 Well, what a great, what a great ally? We all, Yeah, 870 01:06:36.239 --> 01:06:43.760 he's right, Yeah, he's It's just unbelievable that well, not only 871 01:06:43.840 --> 01:06:48.400 his administration what they're doing, but this wave of anti Semitism that has crawled 872 01:06:48.440 --> 01:06:56.039 out from whatever rocks that was under Now he came out with a speech Friday 873 01:06:56.119 --> 01:07:01.320 about you know, peaceful protesting is good. Uh, violent protesting bad? 874 01:07:02.360 --> 01:07:08.039 Yes? Is not America? Well apparently it is, yeah, because it's 875 01:07:08.119 --> 01:07:13.960 going across the country and most of our some of our most prestigious universities, 876 01:07:14.239 --> 01:07:18.039 and my own minute University of Minnesota had a protest that didn't get violent. 877 01:07:18.559 --> 01:07:23.719 But the board of reas, the board of regents is going to negotiate. 878 01:07:23.880 --> 01:07:28.679 Oh yeah, that's that's what we need. Hey, John, I'm sorry, 879 01:07:28.719 --> 01:07:30.639 we're out of time. We got to take a break, but thank 880 01:07:30.679 --> 01:07:33.800 you, very very good call. Yeah, negotiate with him. Oh that's 881 01:07:33.800 --> 01:07:38.880 going to really work out. Well, Mike, did you confirm while I 882 01:07:39.000 --> 01:07:42.760 was taught? Yeah, I just saw the headline from CNN. He suspending 883 01:07:42.920 --> 01:07:47.119 ammunition. We'll you know what he ought to be drawning quarter of that. 884 01:07:48.320 --> 01:07:51.920 We'll get to it because we got to take a break, but we'll be 885 01:07:53.039 --> 01:08:06.480 back. Mike Allen Mike Allen Junior in for Willie Cunningham. They were back 886 01:08:06.960 --> 01:08:12.840 Mike Allen Junior, Mike Allen Senior in for the Great American Willie Cunningham. 887 01:08:13.000 --> 01:08:18.079 On Sunday Night Live, our last caller schooled schooled me and dad to some 888 01:08:18.159 --> 01:08:20.439 stuff that we did not know. I mean, he's right, apparently, 889 01:08:20.479 --> 01:08:26.840 And I'm reading the headline right now. It's a Biden administration pauses uh and 890 01:08:27.039 --> 01:08:31.760 ammunition shipment to Israel. Reason unclear. Now it says here one ammunition shipment, 891 01:08:31.840 --> 01:08:35.239 but it doesn't really say why. But here's here's the issue. And 892 01:08:35.279 --> 01:08:41.720 you may be asking yourself self, why do we keep shoveling billions and billions 893 01:08:41.720 --> 01:08:46.199 of dollars at Ukraine but we're hesitant to fund of war against the terrorist organization 894 01:08:46.279 --> 01:08:51.000 in Hamas Ukraine is a war the Democrats like for whatever reason. Yeah, 895 01:08:51.239 --> 01:08:56.680 That's what I was gonna say. Is the reason is is that we all 896 01:08:56.680 --> 01:09:00.880 know it. They blame Russia for Donald Trump winning the election in twenty sixteen. 897 01:09:00.920 --> 01:09:05.640 So I swear to God billions of dollars of your taxpayer money, thousands 898 01:09:05.680 --> 01:09:11.720 and thousands of lives and screwing over the only democracy in the Middle East simply 899 01:09:11.840 --> 01:09:15.359 to appease the babies who think that Donald Trump was a Russian spy. You 900 01:09:15.399 --> 01:09:20.159 can literally, I mean I'm not that's not bs or exaggeration. We are 901 01:09:20.199 --> 01:09:26.600 there. Every anybody who knows anything about the war in Ukraine knows that war 902 01:09:26.680 --> 01:09:30.359 is not winnable. For Vladimir Putin or Vladimir Zelenski, the war is not 903 01:09:30.439 --> 01:09:34.359 winnable. It's a stalemate. At some point, some adult in the room, 904 01:09:34.359 --> 01:09:38.279 because remember when the Biden administration got elected, the adults are back in 905 01:09:38.319 --> 01:09:42.520 the room. Oh, some adult in the room should maybe try to negotiate 906 01:09:42.600 --> 01:09:45.520 a ceasefire between Russia and Ukraine, a war that has been going on for 907 01:09:45.560 --> 01:09:51.439 three years with no progress whatsoever on either side. But we're gonna stop shipping 908 01:09:51.479 --> 01:09:56.399 ammunition to the only democracy in the Middle East. And like, like what 909 01:09:56.439 --> 01:10:00.359 I'm saying it is because Democrats hate Russia because they think Trump was a Russian 910 01:10:00.359 --> 01:10:04.880 space Let me ask you something, what country is going to trust us think 911 01:10:04.920 --> 01:10:11.520 about? I mean that that's pulling the rug out from a Yeah. I 912 01:10:11.520 --> 01:10:14.880 mean granted it says one shipment, but for God's sake, they can't even 913 01:10:14.880 --> 01:10:16.359 give a reason why. I mean that this is something we're gonna have to 914 01:10:16.439 --> 01:10:20.079 keep an eye on. But still, I mean it is it is staggering 915 01:10:20.520 --> 01:10:25.159 that that that Joe Biden is saying, don't telling bb in the war cabinet, 916 01:10:25.159 --> 01:10:29.319 don't go into Rafa. I'm looking at the polling here seventy two percent. 917 01:10:29.399 --> 01:10:33.079 This isn't Republican or Democrat. Seventy two percent of Americans think that Netanyahu 918 01:10:33.159 --> 01:10:36.760 should be able to finish a mass off before there's a ceasefire. He has 919 01:10:36.840 --> 01:10:41.560 to do. So, let's let's just break this down. Joe Biden is 920 01:10:41.720 --> 01:10:45.720 upending decades of foreign policy because we've always, like you said, with Nixon, 921 01:10:45.800 --> 01:10:51.640 we've always helped Israel. He's upending decades of foreign policy for a what 922 01:10:51.880 --> 01:10:57.439 seventy two percent My elder Mas says, twenty eight percent of the country yes 923 01:10:57.439 --> 01:11:00.319 for voting. It's staggering. You had mentioned and I know you think I 924 01:11:00.439 --> 01:11:03.720 got a Nixon. You gotta get like Roger Stone and get the big Nixon 925 01:11:03.760 --> 01:11:05.920 tattoo on your back. Well, I'll tell you what I think. The 926 01:11:06.000 --> 01:11:12.159 man was an extremely extremely effective presidence. What could have been with him? 927 01:11:12.159 --> 01:11:15.119 Man? We can use him now, Okay. Nineteen seventy three, the 928 01:11:15.199 --> 01:11:20.119 Yam Kapoor War. I've read this more than one place. Yam Kadpoor War. 929 01:11:20.720 --> 01:11:27.000 Watergate is raining down on Richard Nixon. I mean he's getting he's getting 930 01:11:27.039 --> 01:11:30.199 it from all ends. Well, Henry kissing Heer walks into the Oval office 931 01:11:30.239 --> 01:11:35.079 and says, mister brizz didn't go to May here needs this chit in that 932 01:11:35.319 --> 01:11:40.920 tank and it and Nixon said stop, Henry, just stop. He said, 933 01:11:40.920 --> 01:11:45.359 whatever she wants, double it. Now, get your ass out of 934 01:11:45.399 --> 01:11:50.199 here and get it done. Yeah. Yeah, that's an ally. Yeah 935 01:11:50.279 --> 01:11:56.239 yeah. And it's again we get wishy washy statements and and him yelling at 936 01:11:56.319 --> 01:12:00.359 but not and Yahoo to cool it and all this stuff and all the while, 937 01:12:00.520 --> 01:12:02.720 you know, like like we said, you're upending decades and decades of 938 01:12:02.720 --> 01:12:05.640 foreign policy and again once again. And that's the thing. You can't count 939 01:12:05.680 --> 01:12:10.439 how many times this guy has shown our allies that we don't give a blab 940 01:12:10.560 --> 01:12:14.640 I know. I mean think about it, from Afghanistan to Israel to all 941 01:12:14.760 --> 01:12:17.079 I mean, it's just if you're an ally of the United States, you've 942 01:12:17.079 --> 01:12:20.319 got to be asking yourself, where do I stand. Well, we talked 943 01:12:20.319 --> 01:12:24.560 about it before, you right. Think about the Taiwanese. Yeah, I 944 01:12:24.600 --> 01:12:28.199 mean they're watching this stuff. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know what's keeping 945 01:12:28.279 --> 01:12:30.920 Zizeningping from making a move. I really, he's negligent. If he doesn't, 946 01:12:30.960 --> 01:12:36.199 he's still got he's still got some time. Just that makes me sick. 947 01:12:36.920 --> 01:12:40.920 Like you said, what do you say, It shocks you, but 948 01:12:40.960 --> 01:12:44.840 it doesn't surprise me. No, No, And that's the thing is nothing 949 01:12:44.920 --> 01:12:47.960 surprises me when it comes to this guy. Because even his statement, it's 950 01:12:48.079 --> 01:12:51.319 if there's two things about Joe Biden, it's this is this is it. 951 01:12:51.439 --> 01:12:55.479 He's going to be late and he's going to be wrong. If you stop 952 01:12:55.520 --> 01:12:59.720 and think about it, every reaction he's ever had to anything has been late 953 01:12:59.840 --> 01:13:03.880 and wrong. And again, close to eighty percent of the country thinks he's 954 01:13:03.920 --> 01:13:08.760 dead wrong about this. So we are for two reasons. We are upending 955 01:13:08.960 --> 01:13:13.199 all this foreign policy because A Democrats hate Russia, so we're going to continue 956 01:13:13.199 --> 01:13:16.199 to fund that war, and b Democrats hate Jews, so we're not going 957 01:13:16.279 --> 01:13:18.560 to fund that war. I mean, it really does come down, and 958 01:13:18.600 --> 01:13:21.920 I don't have an issue saying that. No, I'm glad. I don't 959 01:13:21.960 --> 01:13:27.640 think that. I think that the Democrat Party has a deeply I mean, 960 01:13:27.640 --> 01:13:32.800 it is in their blood anti Semitism because again Rashida to lee ilhan Omar, 961 01:13:32.920 --> 01:13:38.079 they have been saying anti Semitic things for the last five or six years and 962 01:13:38.119 --> 01:13:41.279 nobody has called them out on it, and we wonder why this is happening. 963 01:13:42.000 --> 01:13:44.199 Come on, this is a joke. Well, you know who was 964 01:13:44.239 --> 01:13:47.119 it? It was Obama's I think Defense secretary, I forget his name, 965 01:13:47.680 --> 01:13:54.920 said, Joe Biden has been on the way wrong side, has been on 966 01:13:54.960 --> 01:14:01.760 the wrong side of every foreign policy issue since he became a senator. I 967 01:14:01.840 --> 01:14:05.920 mean, we we're seeing it live. But remember Barack Obama said, never 968 01:14:06.039 --> 01:14:11.039 ever underestimate Joe's ability to f things up. Man. Yeah, that one 969 01:14:11.119 --> 01:14:14.680 too, That is absolutely positively true. Well, you know, I mean 970 01:14:14.680 --> 01:14:17.439 the thing about Biden, think about it. And I've been around longer than 971 01:14:17.439 --> 01:14:21.079 you, but I know you you are a student of history. If you 972 01:14:21.159 --> 01:14:27.600 think about Joe Biden, what issue do you attached to him? What is 973 01:14:27.680 --> 01:14:34.319 he passionate about appeasing his left far left base zero zero? There's no principle 974 01:14:34.399 --> 01:14:40.239 at all. And didn't you love his inauguration speaks, I'm gonna bring everybody, 975 01:14:41.000 --> 01:14:45.600 We're gonna work across. The man is a damn liar. Yeah, 976 01:14:45.680 --> 01:14:48.800 And that's the thing is we are now asking ourselves, and they're legitimate questions. 977 01:14:48.840 --> 01:14:54.359 Does he even know that these are his polis? That's you know, 978 01:14:55.640 --> 01:14:59.359 I think Joe Biden is starting to wade into Edith Wilson. You know, 979 01:14:59.399 --> 01:15:01.800 what I mean. Yeah. And that's the other thing too, is we 980 01:15:01.880 --> 01:15:06.079 are all. It's hard because usually the simplest answer is the right answer. 981 01:15:06.720 --> 01:15:12.039 We are all going through this because Joe Biden was jealous of Michelle Obama. 982 01:15:12.600 --> 01:15:16.279 I am convinced because anybody, Dad, if you had an inferiority, com 983 01:15:16.479 --> 01:15:20.800 imagine someone you love going out and making a complete fool of themselves every time, 984 01:15:20.840 --> 01:15:25.239 falling down the stairs and all that stuff. You would say, come 985 01:15:25.279 --> 01:15:28.279 on, buddy, I know you get off the stage. We're gonna ruin 986 01:15:28.319 --> 01:15:30.399 your legacy. But you know, not for her. That's what I mean, 987 01:15:30.479 --> 01:15:33.680 you know, I guess that's what they want to do. I mean, 988 01:15:34.159 --> 01:15:38.399 I blame it on Jill, doctor Jill. Joe. Come on, 989 01:15:38.560 --> 01:15:44.640 man, you know you've got a legacy. You beat the evil Orange Man. 990 01:15:44.760 --> 01:15:47.000 It's ruined. He's toasted. It's just he's gonna go down as the 991 01:15:47.039 --> 01:15:50.880 worst president in American history. He makes Jimmy Carter look like Ronald Reagan. 992 01:15:51.920 --> 01:15:54.840 Hey, we got to take a break, but we'll be back. Mike 993 01:15:54.880 --> 01:16:26.800 Allan, Mike Allen Jr. In for the Great American Willie Brock You by 994 01:16:26.960 --> 01:16:30.279 choice Hotels, Econo Lodge and Roadway in Hotels are serving up double points for 995 01:16:30.359 --> 01:16:35.359 every qualifying stay book at choice hotels dot com. Now here's the man who's 996 01:16:35.359 --> 01:16:41.680 been recognized as radio's best, the recipient of not one, but two prestigious 997 01:16:41.680 --> 01:16:48.079 Marconi Awards for his broadcast excellence, the one and only Bill Cunningham. Mike 998 01:16:48.159 --> 01:16:53.159 Allen Mike Allen Jr. In For Bill Cunningham. And we are still working 999 01:16:53.199 --> 01:16:56.560 on our first Mark Cone. Mike, I guess so we can split one. 1000 01:16:56.560 --> 01:16:59.760 They're cheaper. There you go. Hey, let's talk to Bill and 1001 01:16:59.840 --> 01:17:01.880 Marilyn. He's been hanging on forever. Hey, Bill, thanks for hanging 1002 01:17:01.920 --> 01:17:08.760 in there. Sure. By the way, it was Bob Gates who said, 1003 01:17:08.800 --> 01:17:15.119 Bob Gates, Okay, Biden, Biden never correct, including uh, 1004 01:17:15.359 --> 01:17:19.399 going into Pakistan to get a solid a lot you know that. Actually, 1005 01:17:19.479 --> 01:17:24.720 Hell, have a vote of confidence, isn't it? Wow? And and 1006 01:17:24.760 --> 01:17:30.079 then and then when he said with Afghanistan that the general said to go ahead 1007 01:17:30.079 --> 01:17:36.319 and evacuate the military first and the pedestri and then the civilians and uh, 1008 01:17:36.640 --> 01:17:41.800 and they interviewed the generals and they said, well, we cannot disclose our 1009 01:17:41.840 --> 01:17:45.199 conversation, but if you ask me what my opinion is, it would be 1010 01:17:45.239 --> 01:17:50.119 to evacuate the civilians first, and they said, did you hold that opinion 1011 01:17:50.159 --> 01:17:55.279 back then? And they said, yeah, so yeah, how Biden, 1012 01:17:55.560 --> 01:17:58.159 Well, the way they've got he's gotten away with all this is that the 1013 01:17:58.239 --> 01:18:01.720 media never course. Yeah, well hey, Bill, let me ask you 1014 01:18:01.800 --> 01:18:06.079 this, and Mike, I'll ask you too, who has ever been accountable 1015 01:18:06.479 --> 01:18:11.640 for that backled in Afghanistan? Who has ever been accountable for anything in his 1016 01:18:11.720 --> 01:18:15.000 life? I don't think he's fired that one person, especially Bill. I 1017 01:18:15.039 --> 01:18:18.680 mean, do you know of anyone that's been held accountable for that? Hey? 1018 01:18:18.960 --> 01:18:23.920 It's like when with Hillary, when that day had He's like like, 1019 01:18:23.960 --> 01:18:29.439 why why are we going over all this? You know it's over with. 1020 01:18:29.600 --> 01:18:34.359 The passes that the Democrats get is just beyond belief, it really is. 1021 01:18:34.439 --> 01:18:38.640 I'll tell you. I'll tell you a crazy story. There's a guy who 1022 01:18:38.760 --> 01:18:42.000 used to be in Baltimore. The name was Juius Wesheimer. He was a 1023 01:18:42.000 --> 01:18:46.920 presidential reporter and he told the story that once they're all meeting with the president 1024 01:18:47.119 --> 01:18:51.520 and somebody asked a dumb question and the President told him to go stand in 1025 01:18:51.560 --> 01:18:57.199 the corner h until he told we could come back for asking that dumb question. 1026 01:18:57.840 --> 01:19:02.920 And it's just it's just amazing how the press are now that they get 1027 01:19:02.960 --> 01:19:06.439 away with any and everything that they want to. You know what, it 1028 01:19:06.560 --> 01:19:11.720 just makes our job all harder because you're right, in many ways, the 1029 01:19:11.800 --> 01:19:15.720 right Republicans, Conservatives, whatever, we're fighting with one hand tied behind our 1030 01:19:15.760 --> 01:19:23.920 back because not only the mainstream media, social media, academia, the entertainment 1031 01:19:23.960 --> 01:19:28.039 industry, you know, they all do they run those things too, and 1032 01:19:28.159 --> 01:19:31.560 the Justice Department. Well that's right, and TikTok, yeah, and they 1033 01:19:31.760 --> 01:19:36.199 that bill. You had a question about it Trump is convicted. What was 1034 01:19:36.199 --> 01:19:39.960 the question. Yeah, yeah, it's just I mean, so, you 1035 01:19:39.960 --> 01:19:43.640 know, people are saying it's likely he's going to be convicted. So if 1036 01:19:43.640 --> 01:19:47.039 he's convicted. And I was a lawyer, but I didn't do criminal law. 1037 01:19:47.159 --> 01:19:49.800 My guess is that if he's convicted, then I'll go right up to 1038 01:19:49.840 --> 01:19:56.399 the Supreme Court because of the critical nature for the country. Is that what 1039 01:19:56.520 --> 01:20:00.920 you think would happen in And would he go to jail right after his conviction 1040 01:20:01.359 --> 01:20:06.920 until it's it's heard by the Supreme Court. What's your question, Mike, 1041 01:20:08.119 --> 01:20:10.840 Well, so I think here's what I think. On the first part, 1042 01:20:10.880 --> 01:20:14.359 Would it go to the Supreme Court and Dad, you and I were talking 1043 01:20:14.359 --> 01:20:16.319 about this in a break. New York is very weird where their trial court 1044 01:20:16.560 --> 01:20:19.720 is called the Supreme Court, like their state court. Yeah, and then 1045 01:20:20.159 --> 01:20:24.159 I can't remember what their version of their state Supreme court is. But I 1046 01:20:24.159 --> 01:20:26.720 think what you're asking about is the United States Supreme Court. And yeah, 1047 01:20:26.760 --> 01:20:30.920 I would say, because of the critical nature of the proceedings that the United 1048 01:20:30.960 --> 01:20:35.239 States Supreme Court could just grant itself cerciori or whatever and insert itself. But 1049 01:20:35.279 --> 01:20:39.319 the other thing, as far as going to jail, too, there's two 1050 01:20:39.319 --> 01:20:43.439 components of that. One one the judge Mershawn whatever, I can't remember his 1051 01:20:43.439 --> 01:20:45.640 first name. He wants nothing more than to lock Donald Trump up. I 1052 01:20:45.640 --> 01:20:48.760 mean, he's he wants to lock him up. I think over over the 1053 01:20:49.840 --> 01:20:54.439 over the gag order thing now. But what I think could happen is, 1054 01:20:54.479 --> 01:20:57.479 and this would be the best, in my view, the best outcome for 1055 01:20:57.520 --> 01:21:01.359 Trump if there is a guilty verdict and that somehow between you know, because 1056 01:21:01.399 --> 01:21:04.560 the reality is is if he's found guilty, that judge could lock him up 1057 01:21:04.600 --> 01:21:09.600 that day if he wanted to, the only thing I could think of is 1058 01:21:09.640 --> 01:21:13.319 if that if the judge does not lock him up, that there's some sort 1059 01:21:13.319 --> 01:21:16.880 of emergency injunctive relief wherein the Supreme Court goes, hey, we now have 1060 01:21:16.960 --> 01:21:21.960 jurisdiction over this, and we're staying the sentence. That's yeah, so I 1061 01:21:23.079 --> 01:21:26.840 can. I can, yeah, And they could stay the sentence. But 1062 01:21:26.960 --> 01:21:30.880 like I said, this judge could in theory, I mean just say, 1063 01:21:30.920 --> 01:21:34.199 okay, we've come back guilty. I'm not proceeding the sentencing. Now. 1064 01:21:34.600 --> 01:21:39.159 The defense could ask for like a pre sentenced investigation. I imagined that to 1065 01:21:39.279 --> 01:21:42.680 stall time. But yes, I mean the reality is is if that jury 1066 01:21:42.720 --> 01:21:45.960 comes back guilty, this judge, who again his daughter has worked for you 1067 01:21:45.960 --> 01:21:50.239 know, every leftist, leftist organization you could think of, could conceivably take 1068 01:21:50.279 --> 01:21:54.079 him, put him in handcuffs, and lock him up that day. You 1069 01:21:54.119 --> 01:21:58.119 know, I think there, if he is convicted, there is absolutely no 1070 01:21:58.359 --> 01:22:02.720 chance, zero, that it does not fall on appeal. But you're right, 1071 01:22:03.000 --> 01:22:08.399 in the cases that were involved in here, you're found guilty, you 1072 01:22:08.479 --> 01:22:12.399 go to jail, and you got thirty days to appeal. I just can't 1073 01:22:12.439 --> 01:22:15.479 see that with the president. Yeah, and that's the thing, and I've 1074 01:22:15.520 --> 01:22:17.039 talked about this, and this is something that that judge is gonna have to 1075 01:22:17.079 --> 01:22:21.079 think about whether it's Alvin Bragg, whether it's Jack Smith with the document stuff, 1076 01:22:21.119 --> 01:22:24.960 which, by the way, there's late breaking stuff in that where it 1077 01:22:25.000 --> 01:22:28.279 seems like the chain of custody in that has been completely blown in a lot 1078 01:22:28.319 --> 01:22:32.800 of cases. But but you see all these cases across the board, and 1079 01:22:32.840 --> 01:22:36.119 you got to ask yourself, you know, what's the endgame here? Because 1080 01:22:36.119 --> 01:22:41.079 if Donald Trump's convicted on the state charge, he can't he can't pardon himself 1081 01:22:41.119 --> 01:22:46.920 on the New York thing. So this conceivably Donald Trump could be president from 1082 01:22:46.960 --> 01:22:51.000 a eight by eight cel. It's amazing, just like Venezuela. Right, 1083 01:22:51.119 --> 01:22:56.239 yeah, yeah, this is just so everyone's aware. This is not how 1084 01:22:56.279 --> 01:23:00.720 the justice it's not. This is astonishing. Bill. Appreciate the call. 1085 01:23:00.760 --> 01:23:04.600 The Democrats have dragged their feet for so long for doing this, you know, 1086 01:23:04.720 --> 01:23:10.159 like the January sixth. I mean they still haven't prosecuted that one. 1087 01:23:10.439 --> 01:23:13.960 Yeah, oh, I know, Oh yeah, I mean they're on that 1088 01:23:14.039 --> 01:23:16.680 like White on Rice. Yeah yeah, all right, Well, I appreciate 1089 01:23:16.720 --> 01:23:20.600 the call. You know, you and I are part of the legal system, 1090 01:23:20.840 --> 01:23:24.479 and I'm proud of it. You know, lawyers they tell jokes about 1091 01:23:24.520 --> 01:23:29.760 him and everything else, and it breaks my heart a lot of emotions, 1092 01:23:29.800 --> 01:23:33.960 but that's one of them. To see what's becoming of Really, this is 1093 01:23:34.319 --> 01:23:39.000 just not right. It is the one place where all of this crap is 1094 01:23:39.000 --> 01:23:43.159 supposed to die, and it's where it's flourishing and something. A law professor 1095 01:23:43.199 --> 01:23:45.920 and you know this guy, I quote him all the time on the air, 1096 01:23:45.600 --> 01:23:50.680 the late great Denny Green, Oh of the group, the music group 1097 01:23:50.760 --> 01:23:55.159 shan On. No. I was lucky enough to have the late great former 1098 01:23:55.199 --> 01:24:00.520 president of Sony. Denny Green is my constitutional law I know he's president of 1099 01:24:00.760 --> 01:24:02.359 Yeah, he was president of Sony before he became a law professor. He 1100 01:24:02.439 --> 01:24:06.079 fell in love with a woman from southern Ohio, which is how he ended 1101 01:24:06.119 --> 01:24:10.960 up at Dayton. But but but yeah, what he what he said is 1102 01:24:10.960 --> 01:24:14.960 is it's pretty simple. It's just because you can doesn't mean you should. 1103 01:24:15.039 --> 01:24:16.680 Yeah, when it comes to this kind of stuff. And I don't think 1104 01:24:16.760 --> 01:24:20.479 Danny Green was a far right guy, but I he would be. He 1105 01:24:20.520 --> 01:24:25.439 would be doing three sixties in somersaults in his grave if he saw something like 1106 01:24:25.479 --> 01:24:28.399 this. This is astonished. And at the end of the day, we're 1107 01:24:28.520 --> 01:24:30.880 better than this. Yeah, we're supposed to be We're supposed to be right, 1108 01:24:31.039 --> 01:24:34.399 And like I said before, Mike, I mean, you know politics 1109 01:24:34.439 --> 01:24:40.840 as well as I do. You don't think some of these Republicans in Congress 1110 01:24:40.880 --> 01:24:45.479 aren't licking their chops to have their their run at Joe Biden. I mean, 1111 01:24:45.520 --> 01:24:49.199 think about this, think about this conceivably. I mean, if this 1112 01:24:49.239 --> 01:24:53.239 is what Alvin Bragg has done, let's say that, like you know, 1113 01:24:53.319 --> 01:24:57.039 in Hamilton County and here in Cincinnati, the prosecutor Melissa Powers or in Claremont 1114 01:24:57.039 --> 01:25:00.119 County the prosecutor Mark to Calvey just said, you know what, I I'm 1115 01:25:00.119 --> 01:25:02.800 going to indict Joe Biden for everything he did. And you would say, 1116 01:25:02.800 --> 01:25:06.399 oh, that that's insane. But now now after that's the thing is, 1117 01:25:08.000 --> 01:25:12.920 they have broken the emergency glass on a lot of that way of putting on 1118 01:25:13.000 --> 01:25:15.119 a lot of things. They've pulled the fire alarm on a lot of things 1119 01:25:15.119 --> 01:25:18.640 in our society that it had no business, you know, having the fire 1120 01:25:18.680 --> 01:25:21.720 alarm pulled on. And where do you go? You know what I mean, 1121 01:25:21.800 --> 01:25:25.840 Well, how does this get better? Again? Like we were talking 1122 01:25:25.880 --> 01:25:29.840 about, and I've seen it as long as I've been paying attention to this 1123 01:25:29.840 --> 01:25:34.119 stuff, and that's a long time. They always push it too far. 1124 01:25:34.760 --> 01:25:40.560 They always push it too far because they're so freaking arrogant yea, and they 1125 01:25:40.640 --> 01:25:45.479 think they're right and moralistic about everything. And I think that's what might be 1126 01:25:45.680 --> 01:25:50.000 happening here. Yeah, I mean, and then you look at DEI that's 1127 01:25:50.279 --> 01:25:54.560 have you been following out that's starting to go by the wayside. Yeah, 1128 01:25:54.600 --> 01:25:59.600 and that's that's you see. Uh, cities that were all about defunding the 1129 01:25:59.640 --> 01:26:01.199 police now starting the fund. So I mean, look, I guess in 1130 01:26:01.239 --> 01:26:05.760 some cases you can put the toothpaste back in the tube, But I don't 1131 01:26:05.840 --> 01:26:10.920 understand how you put the toothpaste back in the tube on indicting a former president 1132 01:26:10.960 --> 01:26:15.479 in multiple jurisdictions for like six hundred I just don't know how you do that. 1133 01:26:15.800 --> 01:26:17.039 You live with it, and you know, it becomes a part of 1134 01:26:17.079 --> 01:26:21.000 our system now, you know what, which is a damn shape. Yeah 1135 01:26:21.079 --> 01:26:25.279 yeah, yeah, it is very scary, but well do we got to 1136 01:26:25.319 --> 01:26:28.600 take a break, but we will be back. Mike Allen Junior Mike Allen 1137 01:26:28.720 --> 01:26:32.600 Senior in for Willie. Instead of smoking, staying away from alcohol when I 1138 01:26:32.680 --> 01:26:36.880 was first quitting was key. I kept on trying learn something each time, 1139 01:26:38.159 --> 01:26:42.399 do whatever it takes, no matter how many times it takes. We did 1140 01:26:42.399 --> 01:26:45.239 it? So can you for free help call one eight hundred quid now A 1141 01:26:45.319 --> 01:26:49.760 message from the US Department of Health and Human Services and CDC. When you 1142 01:26:49.800 --> 01:26:54.119 shop Goodwill, you don't just bring home a vintage dress or cat lamp. 1143 01:26:54.920 --> 01:26:59.319 You bring home so much good to your community because everything you buy funds local 1144 01:26:59.399 --> 01:27:03.479 job training and ball Goodwill bring good home. But you by Goodwill and the 1145 01:27:03.520 --> 01:27:09.039 AD Council. Does your current trophy wife want a life insurance policy three times 1146 01:27:09.079 --> 01:27:21.159 the size of your previous movie? Hey We're back, Mike Allen, Mike 1147 01:27:21.239 --> 01:27:27.640 Allen Junior in for the Great American Willie Cunningham Mike during to Break. If 1148 01:27:27.640 --> 01:27:31.199 you turn around, you can still see it. Marjorie Taylor Green. Someone 1149 01:27:31.680 --> 01:27:39.760 needs to instruct that woman that the job is to defeat Joe Biden. Get 1150 01:27:39.800 --> 01:27:45.800 on the damn team. Woman. Yeah, she's she's she's a one woman 1151 01:27:45.880 --> 01:27:48.640 band. Huh, it's all about her. Yeah, I don't. I 1152 01:27:48.920 --> 01:27:53.800 really don't understand it, because the thing is the knock on Republicans is Big 1153 01:27:53.960 --> 01:28:00.000 Ben, is that they can't govern. This is a perfect and shining example 1154 01:28:00.479 --> 01:28:04.000 served up on a silver platter. And I'm sorry that that's been my beef 1155 01:28:04.039 --> 01:28:10.840 with Republicans rowing the same damn direction. I mean, I gotta be the 1156 01:28:11.000 --> 01:28:15.319 Democrats do. Yeah, and that's it blows me away, It really does 1157 01:28:15.399 --> 01:28:16.840 blow me away. And look, I didn't me and you talked about this 1158 01:28:16.920 --> 01:28:19.199 last time. I didn't like Kevin McCarthy. I thought he was a terrible 1159 01:28:19.239 --> 01:28:24.319 speaker. This is ridiculous, and we're coming up on an election, for 1160 01:28:24.359 --> 01:28:28.399 God's sake, just behave for a few months, and we're telling the American 1161 01:28:28.439 --> 01:28:31.159 people, we're asking the put us in charge, put us in charge. 1162 01:28:31.479 --> 01:28:34.399 We can't even run our own damn. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's 1163 01:28:34.399 --> 01:28:39.600 pretty pathetic, especially when the Democrats are this bad. Well it's that idiotic 1164 01:28:39.720 --> 01:28:45.079 rule that that that they made that anybody can uh can raise the speaker getting 1165 01:28:45.159 --> 01:28:46.399 rid of him. Yeah, yeah, No, Mike Johnson I think is 1166 01:28:46.439 --> 01:28:48.640 doing a good job. I do too, with what he's dealing with. 1167 01:28:48.720 --> 01:28:51.239 I mean, and that's the thing is you just you can't always get what 1168 01:28:51.279 --> 01:28:57.439 you want. And we cry and whine about leftists being spoiled and entitled when 1169 01:28:58.000 --> 01:29:00.920 we have yeah, exactly, this woman by behind me on the screen, 1170 01:29:00.000 --> 01:29:04.039 Marjorie Taylor Green being spoiled and entitled. So hey, all about her? 1171 01:29:04.119 --> 01:29:09.079 Yes, she can't do math. Yeah really, yeah, there you go, 1172 01:29:09.199 --> 01:29:12.319 thank you, Thank you, Danny. So, so you wanted to 1173 01:29:12.359 --> 01:29:15.119 say something about the Yeah, the documents case. Something broke on that today. 1174 01:29:15.239 --> 01:29:17.760 Yeah, let's see what the date may fifth? Yees, So it 1175 01:29:17.800 --> 01:29:20.600 is today And this is this is from the Daily Wire. It's it's Ben 1176 01:29:20.640 --> 01:29:27.600 Shapiro's outfit. It looks like the classified documents case. That's the one with 1177 01:29:28.479 --> 01:29:31.560 mar A Lago. As you recall, apparently Donald Trump took some classified documents 1178 01:29:31.560 --> 01:29:36.119 from the Oval, brought them to mar A Lago FBI, and the records 1179 01:29:36.159 --> 01:29:41.439 people said give it back. He said no. All the while, and 1180 01:29:41.479 --> 01:29:45.800 he's claiming that he has immunity from the the Presidential Records Act. All the 1181 01:29:45.800 --> 01:29:53.000 while, Joe Biden takes unbelievable classified documents from the skiff as a senator, 1182 01:29:53.439 --> 01:29:57.319 he has no authority whatsoever to do it. Yeah, and he skates while 1183 01:29:57.359 --> 01:30:00.840 Donald Trump's on her indictment. But at any rate, there's something in criminal 1184 01:30:00.920 --> 01:30:04.359 law you and I have talked about called chain of custody, wherein evidence has 1185 01:30:04.399 --> 01:30:10.239 to be part of the test for reliability of that evidence is the police officers, 1186 01:30:10.239 --> 01:30:14.560 the law enforcement have to show who handled this evidence and in what way 1187 01:30:15.079 --> 01:30:16.680 you know, from the day it was collected to the day of the trial, 1188 01:30:17.359 --> 01:30:19.520 it looks like now and I'm going to read from this, it says 1189 01:30:19.560 --> 01:30:25.680 former Director of National Intelligence John Ratcliffe. They're quoting him as saying that this 1190 01:30:25.800 --> 01:30:30.239 is basically what happened during crossfire Hurricane. Apparently, Jack Smith, he's the 1191 01:30:30.239 --> 01:30:35.640 prosecutor. His legal team conceded last week that documents sees by the FBI have 1192 01:30:35.800 --> 01:30:43.279 been messed up and jumbled, despite previously saying otherwise and giving those representations to 1193 01:30:43.359 --> 01:30:46.239 the court. All documents, a lot of them, is what they're saying. 1194 01:30:46.239 --> 01:30:49.039 Now here's let me keep going here, it says Jack Smith admitted in 1195 01:30:49.079 --> 01:30:55.199 court this week in his own words, that they mishandled the classified documents and 1196 01:30:55.239 --> 01:30:59.760 then misrepresented the contents of those documents to the court. Oh yeah, he's 1197 01:30:59.760 --> 01:31:02.800 saying, and reckless, saying that the prosecutors got caught when Trump's lawyers and 1198 01:31:02.840 --> 01:31:09.399 other co defendants raised the issue that scanned copies were not matching up with the 1199 01:31:09.439 --> 01:31:14.600 records that were taken from mar A Lago in twenty twenty two. Something doesn't 1200 01:31:14.640 --> 01:31:18.399 smell right here, and color me shocked that the federal government would lie and 1201 01:31:18.600 --> 01:31:21.359 or mess with evidence to get Donald Trump. I feel like I may have 1202 01:31:21.399 --> 01:31:24.840 seen that movie a few times. Yeah, I know, And in my 1203 01:31:25.000 --> 01:31:28.520 wildest dreams, I never thought I would say that. Yeah, you know, 1204 01:31:28.720 --> 01:31:31.439 back when I was a cop in law enforcement, the FBI was go 1205 01:31:31.640 --> 01:31:38.359 way up here on a pedestal, and you just knew there was no political 1206 01:31:38.439 --> 01:31:43.199 considerations with the FBI. They didn't give damn one about politics. It's out 1207 01:31:43.199 --> 01:31:45.119 the window. It's out the window, and it's a shame. And speaking 1208 01:31:45.159 --> 01:31:48.000 of which, and this is something that bothers me, and I'm not this 1209 01:31:48.119 --> 01:31:55.000 isn't the bolster of Marjorie Taylor Green, but how many Republicans voted to fund 1210 01:31:55.079 --> 01:32:00.319 that FBI facility the billions of what? Why are we giving them more? 1211 01:32:00.159 --> 01:32:03.119 We should blow up the DC office. Not physically, but I mean, 1212 01:32:03.199 --> 01:32:05.960 like, go, you know what we're done. We're breaking you guys up 1213 01:32:06.000 --> 01:32:13.479 your terrible gang. I gotta be honest that it's stuff like that that gets 1214 01:32:13.560 --> 01:32:15.960 the base of the Republican Party mad at the leadership of the Republican Party. 1215 01:32:16.000 --> 01:32:20.119 Not that I'm excusing Marjorie Taylor Green, but for God's sake, when you 1216 01:32:19.920 --> 01:32:25.960 the FBI has stuck is in your words, it's fat thumb on the scale 1217 01:32:26.399 --> 01:32:30.279 of how many elections and what do Republicans do they reward them with new facilities. 1218 01:32:30.560 --> 01:32:33.760 It's Republicans just can't get it together. It's gonna be interesting to see 1219 01:32:33.840 --> 01:32:39.760 if Trump wins what he does with Christopher Ray. I don't see. I 1220 01:32:39.760 --> 01:32:43.720 think it'll be like five minutes after he gives the inaugural I think he needs 1221 01:32:43.760 --> 01:32:48.840 to what I propose he does a cut the FBI DC office by thirty percent, 1222 01:32:49.159 --> 01:32:51.920 cut them by thirty percent, and then I think count on that. 1223 01:32:53.039 --> 01:32:57.039 I think that there should be no centralized Washington d C Office at all. 1224 01:32:57.199 --> 01:32:59.760 I don't think that they should do that the Baltimore office. You know what, 1225 01:33:00.159 --> 01:33:04.000 there should not be a special gestapo in Washington, d C. To 1226 01:33:04.039 --> 01:33:08.079 go do the Democrats dirty work, because that's what we've seen from them. 1227 01:33:08.359 --> 01:33:11.760 That's all they do is go harassed. January six, people claim that, 1228 01:33:11.840 --> 01:33:15.600 you know, Donald Trump's a Russian spy. I mean, name one good 1229 01:33:15.680 --> 01:33:17.880 arrest that the DC office has made in the last seven or eight years. 1230 01:33:18.439 --> 01:33:21.479 What terrorist plot have they stopped? No, Oh, you're right, I 1231 01:33:21.520 --> 01:33:25.520 mean to do is harassed people. For the last couple of months, he's 1232 01:33:25.560 --> 01:33:30.039 been Ray chrisph Race telling anybody that'll listen, Hey, it ain't a matter 1233 01:33:30.119 --> 01:33:32.479 of if we're gonna get hit, it's a matter of win. Do I 1234 01:33:32.640 --> 01:33:38.199 have confidence that they're doing what they need to do from an investigative point of 1235 01:33:38.279 --> 01:33:41.840 view to find out about that. No, No, I think they're too 1236 01:33:41.880 --> 01:33:45.840 busy harassing Republicans. Exactly, totally honest here, man, exactly. You 1237 01:33:45.840 --> 01:33:49.840 know you mentioned something about decentralizing it. I think that makes sense. Yeah, 1238 01:33:49.920 --> 01:33:56.239 if Donald Trump wins, then you talk about the swamp, you know. 1239 01:33:56.560 --> 01:34:00.960 Yeah, yeah, it'll be I hope he takes blow towards this man, 1240 01:34:01.079 --> 01:34:03.680 because I think this time he's going to realize I should have done it 1241 01:34:03.720 --> 01:34:06.319 before. Yep. Yeah, Hey, we got to get out of here 1242 01:34:06.840 --> 01:34:12.359 just for a minute here, But when we come back. When we come 1243 01:34:12.439 --> 01:34:16.159 back, we're gonna be talking to the reporter for the Epoch Times. And 1244 01:34:16.199 --> 01:34:21.520 by the way, if you haven't familiarized yourself with the Epoch Times, you 1245 01:34:21.640 --> 01:34:26.920 should. I mean their stories are I mean, sometimes you know, like 1246 01:34:27.319 --> 01:34:29.760 Wall Street Journal, which I think is great, they'll go four or five 1247 01:34:29.760 --> 01:34:33.479 pages. Epoch Times will go twenty as they dive into things. Her name 1248 01:34:33.560 --> 01:34:38.920 is Janis Heil. We're gonna ask her, and she covers Trump, that's 1249 01:34:38.920 --> 01:34:42.319 her assignment. We're going to ask her how Trump's holding up with all this 1250 01:34:42.439 --> 01:34:46.079 lawfare, and I'm gonna ask her is he turning it to his advantage? 1251 01:34:46.359 --> 01:34:48.760 I think I know the answer to that. I mean, look at the 1252 01:34:48.800 --> 01:34:51.600 polls. I mean that's the other thing too, is a lot of the 1253 01:34:51.640 --> 01:34:56.279 CNNs and the msnbcs are out there saying that if he's convicted, that there's 1254 01:34:56.359 --> 01:35:00.760 all these voters are going to walk away. I don't sure about all that. 1255 01:35:00.800 --> 01:35:02.199 I think if he's convicted, his poll numbers are going to go up. 1256 01:35:02.479 --> 01:35:04.800 Oh I agree, Yeah, I agree. I want to ask her 1257 01:35:04.840 --> 01:35:09.880 about that stuff going in Marlago or the vice presidential retreat or whatever they're calling 1258 01:35:09.920 --> 01:35:14.439 it, where everybody's little Marco's there. Imagine Trump and Little Marco making up 1259 01:35:14.439 --> 01:35:17.920 and teaming up. Apparently they are buddies now. And you know what, 1260 01:35:17.960 --> 01:35:24.399 Trump's not stupid, and nor is uh little Marco. Yeah, lion ted 1261 01:35:24.560 --> 01:35:29.880 or arrest. You know, they said, okay, Trump haunt them off. 1262 01:35:29.880 --> 01:35:31.199 He did what he did, but hey, I got to work with 1263 01:35:31.239 --> 01:35:34.800 the guy. I'll tell you one thing. I think Marco Rubio would be 1264 01:35:34.840 --> 01:35:38.439 a great vice president. Yeah, I think he would be good too. 1265 01:35:38.479 --> 01:35:41.720 I think Tim Scott I agree. I think Doug Bergham would be good too. 1266 01:35:41.760 --> 01:35:44.119 He's a dark horse candidate. But yeah, we'll talk to We'll talk 1267 01:35:44.159 --> 01:35:46.079 to Janis about all that stuff. And you talk about the Book Times. 1268 01:35:46.840 --> 01:35:50.720 It's not like we don't need any any more decent news outlets, you know. 1269 01:35:51.279 --> 01:35:57.239 Oh yeah, really well, I'll tell you what conservative news outlets are 1270 01:35:57.319 --> 01:36:01.600 starting to grow, and we definitely we need that. We sure didn't have 1271 01:36:01.680 --> 01:36:06.600 it when I was coming up. Anyway, we will talk to Janis Heiseel 1272 01:36:06.760 --> 01:36:12.039 when we get back. Mike Allen, Mike Allen Jr. In For Willie. 1273 01:36:13.000 --> 01:36:15.159 Hey, we're back, Mike Allen. Mike Allen Jr. In For 1274 01:36:15.239 --> 01:36:19.359 the Great American Bill Cunningham on a Sunday night, Mike, I don't know 1275 01:36:19.479 --> 01:36:26.399 you saw it. There's a title to an article in the Epic Times that 1276 01:36:26.560 --> 01:36:30.880 just sums everything up. I'm going to read it to you. Tied to 1277 01:36:30.000 --> 01:36:38.000 courthouse. Trump conducts gorilla campaign on evenings weekend. And we have got the 1278 01:36:38.119 --> 01:36:42.920 author or one of the authors of that great article, Janis Heisel. She 1279 01:36:43.279 --> 01:36:47.640 is the reporter from the Epoch Times that is assigned to the Trump campaign. 1280 01:36:47.880 --> 01:36:53.239 Janis, thanks for joining us. Thank you. I really enjoyed talking with 1281 01:36:53.279 --> 01:36:57.399 you. You know that, Mike, Yeah, it works good. I 1282 01:36:57.399 --> 01:37:00.239 think we work well together. But at any right, you know, one 1283 01:37:00.239 --> 01:37:03.119 of the things that says in this article, janis that, frankly, I 1284 01:37:03.159 --> 01:37:09.159 was surprised that Trump actually thinks and he's going to make a play for New 1285 01:37:09.239 --> 01:37:16.079 York. Yes, and this is pretty interesting. I got very intrigued by 1286 01:37:16.119 --> 01:37:19.640 that whole notion because a lot of people are kind of rolling their eyes and 1287 01:37:19.680 --> 01:37:23.720 going, wow, that's pretty pie in the sky, because there are parts 1288 01:37:23.720 --> 01:37:28.359 of New York is supposed to right around Manhattan where this trial has been going 1289 01:37:28.399 --> 01:37:33.000 on, that voted over ninety percent for Joe Biden in the twenty twenty Holle, 1290 01:37:33.079 --> 01:37:39.560 Yeah, I saw that. So. But some of the people kind 1291 01:37:39.600 --> 01:37:44.319 of in Trump world, I've been really making some inroads there, and some 1292 01:37:44.359 --> 01:37:49.279 people that are telling me that here's how that would shake out. If Trump 1293 01:37:49.359 --> 01:37:55.279 could actually get that just ten percent to go up to about thirty five percent 1294 01:37:55.439 --> 01:38:00.319 in the city of New York itself, he gets up to thirty five percent 1295 01:38:00.520 --> 01:38:04.119 threshold, he would win the entire state of New York. Wow, Because 1296 01:38:04.479 --> 01:38:11.720 most like most states, New York, the metropolitan areas, the big cities 1297 01:38:11.800 --> 01:38:15.319 tend to be blue, and the suburban, more rural areas tend to be 1298 01:38:15.560 --> 01:38:19.399 red or more Republican. And so if you look at a map of New 1299 01:38:19.439 --> 01:38:25.600 York, you pretty much see that same pattern there and many other states across 1300 01:38:25.600 --> 01:38:29.479 the country. So as you know, kind of high in the sky that 1301 01:38:29.560 --> 01:38:33.000 might sound to some people. There are people in Trump world who think it's 1302 01:38:33.039 --> 01:38:41.039 possible. Now you know, it would be require quite a shift to get 1303 01:38:41.079 --> 01:38:44.720 there, but he's making a play for it. And I have talked to 1304 01:38:44.800 --> 01:38:48.319 some people that are kind of in his orbit, and they're telling me that 1305 01:38:48.479 --> 01:38:53.359 he is taking this very personally, that he would be willing to almost like 1306 01:38:53.479 --> 01:38:58.560 sacrifice working as hard in some other states to try to win New York because 1307 01:38:58.840 --> 01:39:01.960 he is, even though he's moved Florida, he considers himself a New Yorker, 1308 01:39:02.159 --> 01:39:08.000 art is what I'm being told. And he really doesn't like seeing what's 1309 01:39:08.039 --> 01:39:13.039 been happening there, you know it kind of it's really heartbrending from him. 1310 01:39:13.119 --> 01:39:15.079 According to people I've spoken to, that he sees, you know, the 1311 01:39:15.119 --> 01:39:21.600 people on the streets and the overrun with the illegal immigration and the migrants that 1312 01:39:21.680 --> 01:39:26.239 that are coming in and being you know provided, you know, all of 1313 01:39:26.279 --> 01:39:30.520 the government benefits we've heard about, and there's a lot of concerns about the 1314 01:39:30.600 --> 01:39:34.880 crime also. And you know, I talked to one New Yorker who told 1315 01:39:34.880 --> 01:39:39.720 me that even like the CBS, you go to your drug store to try 1316 01:39:39.760 --> 01:39:43.840 to get anything, like he said, a pack of cash, hus you 1317 01:39:43.960 --> 01:39:48.159 have to go get the clerk to open a lot of the crime is so 1318 01:39:48.319 --> 01:39:55.079 bad. Yeah, so there is. You know, Trump is really pushing 1319 01:39:55.640 --> 01:40:00.000 and he's kind of trying to take this situation where he stuck in New York 1320 01:40:00.079 --> 01:40:06.079 for this trial and maximizing the opportunities he's able to do there. Why not. 1321 01:40:06.239 --> 01:40:12.800 So yeah, it's an interesting phenomenon for sure, And we'll have to 1322 01:40:12.840 --> 01:40:17.079 see if these efforts succeed at all, if the pain is so bad that 1323 01:40:17.159 --> 01:40:21.920 people feel like they want to switch over to Trump. But you know, 1324 01:40:23.159 --> 01:40:26.880 I've talked to a number of people who told me that people won't publicly admit 1325 01:40:26.960 --> 01:40:30.600 it, but they feel like they want to vote for Trump, and that 1326 01:40:30.840 --> 01:40:36.079 they get like, don't tell anybody, Hey, Janis, I saw when 1327 01:40:36.119 --> 01:40:39.840 I was reading about, you know, getting ready for the show. I 1328 01:40:39.880 --> 01:40:43.720 was reading about Trump and some of these swing states and ones that maybe aren't 1329 01:40:43.800 --> 01:40:48.800 aren't right at the forefront. A state that's been generally blue, but it 1330 01:40:48.880 --> 01:40:51.960 went for Glenn Youngkin was Virginia. And I've read an article and of course 1331 01:40:53.000 --> 01:40:56.279 it's you know, it's campaign insiders and all that stuff. But to think 1332 01:40:56.319 --> 01:41:00.600 that that Virginia is actually in play. Do you see Donald Trump to vote 1333 01:41:00.600 --> 01:41:02.680 in any you know, resources or time to Virginia, Because, like you 1334 01:41:02.760 --> 01:41:06.319 said before, I could see him maybe you know, places like Ohio and 1335 01:41:08.560 --> 01:41:11.880 strongholds for him, you know, maybe he doesn't need to campaign is hard 1336 01:41:11.880 --> 01:41:14.720 there. He can devote his time to somewhere maybe like Virginia or even in 1337 01:41:14.760 --> 01:41:18.840 Minnesota that where you have a lot of the Muslim population as well. Extremely 1338 01:41:19.359 --> 01:41:23.239 upset with Joe Biden. It seems like maybe those two states could be in 1339 01:41:23.279 --> 01:41:27.760 play. Do you think he's going to actually really go for those two I 1340 01:41:27.800 --> 01:41:30.840 think he would like to go for as many things as he can, But 1341 01:41:30.880 --> 01:41:33.279 you know, I think you do have to kind of pick and choose to 1342 01:41:33.359 --> 01:41:39.560 a certain extent, especially under the circumstances that he's in now, where he 1343 01:41:39.680 --> 01:41:45.119 is kind of stuck in court a lot that Virginia has not really been something 1344 01:41:45.159 --> 01:41:50.760 that has been mentioned to me personally. But I will say that the Trump 1345 01:41:50.800 --> 01:41:57.920 campaign tends to play things pretty close to the vest, and so they don't 1346 01:41:57.960 --> 01:42:00.399 They just don't want to broadcast exactly what they're doing. A lot of times 1347 01:42:00.399 --> 01:42:05.479 they won't announce their rallies till like a week out. Uh, So it's 1348 01:42:05.520 --> 01:42:11.479 really hard to say how much of a play they'll make for Virginia. But 1349 01:42:11.640 --> 01:42:15.800 I hear what you're saying, and it actually makes sense me based on you 1350 01:42:15.840 --> 01:42:19.039 know, everything that I have, I've seen that it would it would make 1351 01:42:19.079 --> 01:42:25.880 sense if he does. But I also think that Minnesota is probably one of 1352 01:42:25.880 --> 01:42:30.279 the biggest ones that that he's going to be pushing hard for. Pennsylvania is 1353 01:42:30.439 --> 01:42:36.680 kind of on a razor's edge. So Biden is originally from, uh that 1354 01:42:36.880 --> 01:42:42.399 state. Of course, lives in Delaware now, but I've been there a 1355 01:42:42.399 --> 01:42:45.840 couple of different times and interviewed people about you know, is a very divided 1356 01:42:45.840 --> 01:42:50.640 state when it comes to Biden versus Trump. So but there are again people 1357 01:42:50.640 --> 01:42:56.560 that are resenting that the Biden administration has been taking a lot of action to 1358 01:42:56.640 --> 01:43:00.920 shut down coal production, right and uh, that's the lifeblood for a lot 1359 01:43:00.960 --> 01:43:08.279 of people in Pennsylvania, especially in Scranton. It used to be called the 1360 01:43:08.800 --> 01:43:14.119 cold capital, answer site capital of the world. And that's where Joe Biden 1361 01:43:14.239 --> 01:43:18.119 is from. And now people are you know, resentful of you know, 1362 01:43:18.439 --> 01:43:24.680 the actions being taken for all of the quote Green New Deal type things to 1363 01:43:25.359 --> 01:43:29.760 go against coal production, which a lot of people again they depend on that 1364 01:43:30.079 --> 01:43:33.640 for their livelihood in Pana. I think he really put his foot in it 1365 01:43:33.680 --> 01:43:36.279 there. We shall see. I guess I got to ask you this. 1366 01:43:36.319 --> 01:43:41.840 We all know how important fundraising is in a presidential campaign. Do you think 1367 01:43:41.920 --> 01:43:45.239 this trial has affected his fundraising? I thought, janis that I heard something 1368 01:43:45.319 --> 01:43:50.680 that he's having something that mar A Lago. Maybe you're somewhere in Florida two 1369 01:43:50.760 --> 01:43:56.079 hundred and fifty thousand dollars a pop. Have you heard that? Yeah? 1370 01:43:56.439 --> 01:44:00.319 Yeah, Actually that was a fundraiser that I tried to get into, but 1371 01:44:00.399 --> 01:44:04.680 it was closed to the press. That one was locked up like a drum. 1372 01:44:05.560 --> 01:44:11.159 But I don't know what the outcome was. It was a weekend retreat. 1373 01:44:11.680 --> 01:44:14.239 I don't know if it was up Mara A Lagos specifically. I do 1374 01:44:14.359 --> 01:44:18.960 know it was in Palm Beach, but I was I do know that the 1375 01:44:18.960 --> 01:44:28.079 the RNC Republican National Committee and the Trump campaign released some figures earlier today about 1376 01:44:28.199 --> 01:44:31.960 fundraising, and based on what they're reporting, it sounds like that they are 1377 01:44:32.520 --> 01:44:39.439 raking in some decent coin. I know there was one fundraiser where fifty million 1378 01:44:39.640 --> 01:44:45.079 dollars came in in just one fundraise. WHOA, yeah, I'll tell you 1379 01:44:45.119 --> 01:44:46.680 what you can put that to work. That's crazy. Well speaking, I 1380 01:44:46.680 --> 01:44:51.600 guess of gatherings at mar A Lago, we have won this. I guess. 1381 01:44:51.680 --> 01:44:56.279 I don't know if it's still going on, but last week with potential 1382 01:44:56.319 --> 01:45:00.640 suitors for the vice presidential candidacy give in the headlines this week, it seems 1383 01:45:00.680 --> 01:45:05.920 like Christy nom is likely not in the running for that. Do you think 1384 01:45:06.000 --> 01:45:10.479 that the president or the former president has somebody picked out? I know that 1385 01:45:10.880 --> 01:45:14.000 he had said, like in a Fox Town hall for him that maybe in 1386 01:45:14.039 --> 01:45:17.079 his mind he has someone he's already picked out. Or is it really just 1387 01:45:17.079 --> 01:45:20.399 one of those things where he's just doing what he does, kind of playing 1388 01:45:20.600 --> 01:45:25.279 psychological games, or do you really think there is someone that's sort of separating 1389 01:45:25.319 --> 01:45:30.399 themselves. You know, if the people there are people who know they answer 1390 01:45:30.399 --> 01:45:36.600 to that question, they are sworn to secrecy, I think, but Matt 1391 01:45:36.640 --> 01:45:43.920 said, I have heard from people in Trump world telling me that for quite 1392 01:45:43.920 --> 01:45:49.600 a while now. Trump has made very positive remarks about Doug Bergham. Now 1393 01:45:50.119 --> 01:45:55.560 he has one of his biggest drawback is his name recognition. He ran for 1394 01:45:55.640 --> 01:46:00.319 president. A lot of people like who right heard of him? Uh. 1395 01:46:00.359 --> 01:46:05.319 He is the still the governor of North Dakota. Uh. Of course the 1396 01:46:05.760 --> 01:46:11.359 Christi Noman is in South Dakota, to the neighboring state there. Uh. 1397 01:46:11.520 --> 01:46:15.079 But he Doug Bourbham, from what I've been told, one of the reasons 1398 01:46:15.159 --> 01:46:21.359 that Trump really likes him, even though he doesn't have that name recognition publicly, 1399 01:46:21.960 --> 01:46:30.079 he actually has a lot of credibility within Silicon Valley kind of uh circles. 1400 01:46:30.279 --> 01:46:34.600 In fact, he turned the state of North Dakota into like a Silicon 1401 01:46:34.760 --> 01:46:41.239 Valley tech place, and it was it's been a very fast growing A lot 1402 01:46:41.279 --> 01:46:44.000 of people. You know, here in Ohio, we don't hear a lot 1403 01:46:44.039 --> 01:46:47.960 about North Dakota. It feels like it's it's like in the frozen tundra or 1404 01:46:48.000 --> 01:46:53.039 something, and just like we don't know anything about North Dakota. But I 1405 01:46:53.079 --> 01:46:57.239 will say I've been hearing some things and and you know, he that is 1406 01:46:57.279 --> 01:47:03.520 something that Trump very much values, is the the tech credibility and also knowledge 1407 01:47:03.600 --> 01:47:11.560 of AI are artificial intelligence, which is a huge, you know, game 1408 01:47:11.800 --> 01:47:15.319 changer for every aspect of our society. And and a lot of people find 1409 01:47:15.359 --> 01:47:19.279 it to be kind of scary. And I think that, uh, there 1410 01:47:19.439 --> 01:47:24.560 there will be a lot of things that will have to be adjusted in our 1411 01:47:24.600 --> 01:47:28.720 society. And and you know, does it go too far? And how 1412 01:47:28.800 --> 01:47:31.439 much do you believe in? And how can it be manipulated? And you 1413 01:47:31.479 --> 01:47:34.479 know, we've we've all seen I don't know if you saw this. I 1414 01:47:34.520 --> 01:47:39.000 know I saw the Uh you would go on to one of the AI things 1415 01:47:39.079 --> 01:47:44.600 I think Google put out where you asked your the artificial intelligence program show us 1416 01:47:44.680 --> 01:47:49.960 what a pioneer looks like is from the Patriot days and they had a dude 1417 01:47:49.960 --> 01:47:55.239 with a powdered wig, but he was have black skins. We know that 1418 01:47:55.239 --> 01:48:00.119 that wasn't what was happening in the United States. I did see that. 1419 01:48:00.159 --> 01:48:03.520 I didn't know it was AI though. That's interesting. Let me ask you 1420 01:48:03.560 --> 01:48:08.960 this question. Donald J. Trump has found a new and unique way to 1421 01:48:09.079 --> 01:48:12.560 campaign. He doesn't have any choice because he's got to be in the courtroom. 1422 01:48:12.680 --> 01:48:15.880 But it sure seems like it's working. Janis. I mean, he 1423 01:48:15.920 --> 01:48:19.680 went to a bodega I think was in Harlem. He's well received everywhere he 1424 01:48:19.800 --> 01:48:24.239 goes. Is that one of the reasons that you and others, You're not 1425 01:48:24.279 --> 01:48:29.880 the only one think that he could possibly take New York? You know, 1426 01:48:30.560 --> 01:48:33.680 I will say based on I haven't been to New York because we have staff 1427 01:48:33.720 --> 01:48:38.560 there. I've been there for like a staff meeting or two, but I 1428 01:48:38.600 --> 01:48:43.800 haven't been there to cover the Trump trial or any of these events. So 1429 01:48:44.039 --> 01:48:46.359 with that as a disclaimer, from what I've seen on the videos, the 1430 01:48:46.439 --> 01:48:51.039 articles I've read, he does seem to have a lot of you know, 1431 01:48:51.239 --> 01:48:56.800 positive reception, just you know, outpouring for him. I've even seen you 1432 01:48:56.800 --> 01:49:00.800 know, other news outlets interview people on the streets of New York who say 1433 01:49:00.840 --> 01:49:04.960 that they're set up with the way things are and that they're willing to look 1434 01:49:05.000 --> 01:49:09.680 at Trump or actually go for Trump. There they're being you know a lot 1435 01:49:09.760 --> 01:49:15.159 more willing to consider that at this point, also earlier today, even uh, 1436 01:49:15.520 --> 01:49:20.479 it's Trump has this unique quality about him, I think because of his 1437 01:49:20.680 --> 01:49:27.239 background not only as a real estate developer, but as a quote unquote celebrity, 1438 01:49:27.399 --> 01:49:30.560 so to speaking his own right from the Apprentice TV series. A lot 1439 01:49:30.600 --> 01:49:34.720 of people knew him from that that he does have kind of like a star 1440 01:49:34.880 --> 01:49:41.439 appeal, probably much more than any president in our lifetime just because of that. 1441 01:49:41.880 --> 01:49:46.840 And so he was just at the Formula one race in Miami, Yeah 1442 01:49:47.319 --> 01:49:54.520 today, people were chanting for him USA USA, And then he made sure 1443 01:49:54.560 --> 01:49:58.199 he put out on true Social that the team that he visited ended up winning, 1444 01:49:58.239 --> 01:50:00.000 and I think he said something like, it's like America needs to be 1445 01:50:00.039 --> 01:50:04.479 winning. Of course, that's good. Hey day. Really, you know, 1446 01:50:04.960 --> 01:50:11.600 been a commendate for his his ability to strike that tone and you know, 1447 01:50:12.159 --> 01:50:15.920 message the messaging to come out with things like that. Hey, I 1448 01:50:15.920 --> 01:50:17.840 wanted to ask you, Janis. We got about two minutes left and I 1449 01:50:17.880 --> 01:50:21.880 want to save some time at the end so you can tell my listeners, 1450 01:50:21.920 --> 01:50:27.800 our listeners about the Epoch Times, because I'll tell you what, it's a 1451 01:50:27.840 --> 01:50:31.000 great, great newspaper with a lot of good things in it. But here's 1452 01:50:31.039 --> 01:50:34.399 what you only have a minute for. In the story. We're just talking 1453 01:50:34.439 --> 01:50:40.800 about Wall Street Journal poll. I think it was late April. Thirty percent 1454 01:50:41.079 --> 01:50:45.319 of black men in the battleground states intend to vote for Trump. That's amazing. 1455 01:50:45.560 --> 01:50:49.279 It really is. When you think about I frankly think he'll probably do 1456 01:50:49.359 --> 01:50:54.680 better than that. Your thoughts on that, Jannis, and about the minute 1457 01:50:54.760 --> 01:51:00.800 or so we have left, Well, I will say that based on people 1458 01:51:00.840 --> 01:51:06.960 I've interviewed, ranging from a former Black Lives Matter organizer uh to Trump's diversity 1459 01:51:08.039 --> 01:51:11.960 coordinator, it does seem like and and there's been many polls out there that 1460 01:51:12.079 --> 01:51:15.359 seem to be substantiating that. Yes, there are a lot more people who 1461 01:51:15.439 --> 01:51:19.439 have any black who are willing to consider voting for Trump at this juncture. 1462 01:51:20.239 --> 01:51:25.359 Uh. There's a whole bunch of reasons why that might be happening, or 1463 01:51:25.399 --> 01:51:30.800 one of them is, Uh, people see the the persecutions or prosecutions however 1464 01:51:30.840 --> 01:51:33.640 you want to play of President Trump, and they kind of identify with that, 1465 01:51:33.800 --> 01:51:35.960 and they're like, wow, they're willing to do this to him. 1466 01:51:36.119 --> 01:51:41.199 I've read and then James, we got only we only got a few about 1467 01:51:41.199 --> 01:51:43.319 a half a minute left. I'm sure I didn't mean to interrupt you, 1468 01:51:43.359 --> 01:51:46.119 but I do want you to make your pitch for the Epoch Times because people 1469 01:51:46.199 --> 01:51:51.439 need to know about it. It's a great, great newspaper. I appreciate 1470 01:51:51.479 --> 01:51:56.399 that. So I just what I'd like to leave people with is, uh, 1471 01:51:56.680 --> 01:52:00.840 don't believe what you read from some of the other mainstream outlets. 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Hey, listen, we're out of time, 1482 01:52:45.920 --> 01:52:51.279 but as always, really appreciate your input. Absolutely. Thanks thought guys. 1483 01:52:51.399 --> 01:52:56.359 Okay, thank you. All right, we gotta take a break, but 1484 01:52:57.640 --> 01:53:00.720 we'll be back. Hey, we're back, but we're going to have to 1485 01:53:00.720 --> 01:53:03.479 get out of here. Mike. That was really fun. Absolutely, it 1486 01:53:03.640 --> 01:53:10.279 was. It was and hopefully some people learn some things. Always, Hey, 1487 01:53:10.359 --> 01:53:13.760 the Great American will be back next week, and we want to thank 1488 01:53:13.840 --> 01:53:18.079 him for letting us try to fill his shoes, which of course is impossible, 1489 01:53:18.119 --> 01:53:23.640 but at any rate. Mike Allen Mike Allen Jr. In for Willie 1490 01:53:23.640 --> 01:53:25.279 Conneyham on a Sunday night