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Hello, and welcome to side Quest. This is our weekly video game show

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here at Geek. First, I'm
your host Dilmas, and I have with

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me once again the clown Prince of
Rune's Travis Snell. How are you doing,

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my friend good? I think this
is maybe a record. I don't

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know. I can't remember if it's
been at least five or six episodes in

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a row have been on the street
christ here. Yeah, so it ends

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next week, but I am excited
to hear some thoughts and talk about just

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uh, it's what we've been playing
and some stuff we've been doing everything.

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So I've been jumped. I've not
played what you're talking about today, but

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I've been jumping my toes back in. So it's a it's been quite the

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experience, Yeah, jumping the toes. How was your camping trip? By

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the way, how's your weekend?
It was good? Yeah, I went

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with the families. That was tons
of fun. I haven't been able to

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squeeze like a camping trip that's like
more than two days or I don't know

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if it's gonna happen this year.
So it is nice. But it's always

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like once you're exceedled and say oh, well we're packing up again, but

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it's still good going. So it's
uh. And this was like the water

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was warm enough to kind of go
in. So no, it was a

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good weekend with the and I haven't
gone camping with my my side of the

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family in like a couple of years, so it was a good good time.

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Weather wasn't too hot, not too
cold, just right. Had some

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schmos, you know, had some
banana boats. You ever had a banana

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boat? Is that like just banana
with the chocolate in the middle marshmallow?

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Yeah, so I don't know if
I did the marshmallow at Oh okay,

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you shop. What you do is
you get tinfoil, put the banana tinfoil,

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cut the banana in half, you
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You wrap it up nice and tight
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But yeah, that chocolate when it's
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but you know, like the nice
and cooked. But yeah, try

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it. Try a banana boat everyone. If you haven't, it's good stuff.

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Obviously you don't like banana, then
I'd say skip that one. But

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well I do love a good banana. There you go, perfect. I

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had a very busy weekend to most
relevantly here is that there was in Vancouver

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here the Vancouver Retro Gaming Correction.
So I went to that, which was

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really cool. There was a ton
of people selling selling games. There was

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like musical performances, there was setups. So played MELEEGGA and some some some

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random people. Which is always time
on like the laggiest TV of all time,

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you know, I used to play
it on my CRT. But yeah,

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I went. I went on a
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I got Mario Galaxy two, which
I've never played. Really, why have

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you avoided that all these years?
I don't even like I think back in

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the day, I might have rented
Mario Galaxy, even though I was a

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big Wei kid. For some reason, the Mario Galaxy games I wasn't really

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playing for whatever reason. So I
played Galaxy for the full time or for

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the like full game when the three
D All Stars thing came on the switch,

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I mean MUDs played through that whole
thing and that was super fun.

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And then I've been trying to get
Galaxy too and actually found it like for

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a pretty good price because normally games
like that are like eighty dow one hundred

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bucks, like you know, the
old UI copies, so that was pretty

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good. And then you know,
in the Nindendo direct there was that Donkey

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Kong remake for Switch. I found
that, like the three DS port for

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that for like twenty bucks, so
I just bought that instead of you know,

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waiting and spending eighty bucks on the
Switch version. I got a physical

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copy of Spelunky, which was like
a limited edition thing, so that's pretty

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nice to have on the shelf.
And then just a couple of random like

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ten dollars pickups as well, so
I went, I went ham picked up

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some things. I haven't played any
of them yet, but I'm sure in

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the next few months i'll report back
on how those went on there here on

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side Quest. But yeah, today's
episode, we're gonna be talking about elden

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Ring, Shadow of the Urch of
the first DLC and maybe the only one

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is out now. It's gonna be
more of an impressions because of course this

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DLC is freaking huge and I'm only
one man. Over the course of a

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couple of days, so put a
few hours in, We're gonna talk about

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twenty fifteen's Mad Max Hot Off Hot
Off furiosa, even though it's been a

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couple months now, but you know, we're gonna talk about that one month

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only one month. One month,
it feels like so long ago now,

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I know we're so far down the
road. And then I also played through

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some of the Allen Wake two DLC, so I'll talk about that as well,

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and then maybe one bonus came.
We'll see if we get to it.

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Yeah, but that's what we got
on the docket for today. Let's

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just get right into it. I
want to start with Elden Ring. I

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know you were business. We can
haven't had a chance to jump in well,

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and you gotta. As we learned
the days leading up, you have

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to beat a certain boss which I
had not beaten. Yeah, which,

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like how soon in Advanced did they
announce that? Was it truly just like

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a few days? Because if so, that is truly brutal. That's not

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just like a boss that most people
will have passively done, like one of

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the hardest bosses in the game,
who's in a very hidden area. So

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that's it's crazy that they did that. I feel like it was just the

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day, like I had heard nothing
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you and then I saw lots of
trending stuff and articles like how you beat

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this poss and et cetera. So
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they were never going to announce,
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out people said, oh, well, to do this you got access,

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because it wasn't. I don't think
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and to enjoy this DLC, you
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Z. It just felt like the
player base and like the gaming community found

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out about it, and that which
is it's like, it's interesting because not

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that they have any issues because I'm
imagine it's gonna sell. Well, it

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is strange to make it that you
just have to beat them. I'm not

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mad about because my plan is okay. As I've said before, I've officially

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now signed up the backlog, so
now I'm starting making my game plan list,

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and my plan is pretty much just
to play ellen Ring at least until

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Outlaws is out. So I don't
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DLC then, but that's my plan
just to like, okay, play it

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to them, but it is odd
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like the first boss, right,
like you gotta beat what was the Goldrick

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or what was his first song?
Yeah, Marget market Mark. Okay,

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that one was a different boss.
Okay, so that one I think I've

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beat so but but Margaret, it's
like, okay, you gotta beat that,

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and that would make sense. It's
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first area. It's like lime Grave, right or whatever. So it's like,

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okay to get the DLC or am
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I'm just loving pronunciation. Lime Grave
just sounds so close to LimeWire for me.

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That's called LimeWire, the map,
like the line wire low No.

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To me, it's like dad and
Star Wars names. You listen to any

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Star Wars review and butcher all those
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because okay, that's the first area. You kind of have to complete that.

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Then the DLC. Luckily, they
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so I don't think it's any issue. But it was. I found

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it odd and that's where it kept
me from like okay, because I'd never

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fully completed and I'd never gotten to
this one. So I'm just gonna be

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xp farming and doing some stuff I
had read like, oh, the fastest

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way to get your XP and ruins
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But it's like, yeah, it's
a little side caves suck, you

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know. It's like, but yeah, so I think it was the game

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community have figured it out or somehow
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So yeah, because you think it's
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that it's not necessarily like a I
guess it could still be a spoiler for

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some people because like you, for
example, spend a lot of time into

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the game, but it's like a
hard game. It takes a lot of

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time to get Oh yeah, so
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that you've played, you still just
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guy. So yeah, it's weird. They should have if they hadn't,

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they should have announced it well in
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I would have prepped more because all
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I'm just gonna get in there,
fine tune, get back on the

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bike, and then I'll get this
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okay, I still got to do
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But yeah, I haven't even bumped
into this boss yet. So that's the

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thing where it was like, oh, I found him and then I'll come

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back. It's like, no,
I'll I still got to go that way.

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isn't that huge of an area,
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And if you just like run past
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the touch the grace and all that, and just skip like through the areas

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there, you should build it pretty
quick. Yeah, but I just got

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to make from HP is good because
I put a lot into my U strength,

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but I realized I need a bit
more HP for some of these later

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bosses. They can they can take
you down, you know. So mm

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hmm. Yeah, So I want
to talk around around this game a little

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bit and then get into the specifics
of the deal I see here. But

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yeah, like for anyone who you
know wasn't listening or missed those episodes or

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just forget because it's been a couple
of years now, we did two fully

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dedicated Elden Ring episodes, one which
is more of like an impressions cast,

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and then there was a full on
spoiler discussion and then kind of in between

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there. It came up just in
the games we've been playing section. So

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if you want to find all that
stuff, the best place, I guess

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would be the side quest specific feed
because all the geek versus main field might

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get kicked out by now YouTube playlist
or Patreon doesn't have a limit of stuff,

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right like all the old you can
just search on Patrio. I found

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Patreon two. If you want to
get the ad free version. That's how

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the X Men retros went back in
the feed. I just searched them on

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Patreon. They're all still They're all
still there, so it worked out great,

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So good to go. So yeah, three h three dedicate or I

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guess two and a half I'll say
dedicated Elder Ring episodes. A lot of

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discussion around that, and then of
course end of the year Game of the

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Year stuff talked about it a bunch
more. And yeah, I really loved

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the base game. I definitely have
a rocky road when it comes to from

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software stuff like Dark Soul's three is
one of my favorites, and I love

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that game. But that's more it's
partly about the game itself, but then

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also very much part like a time
and place and when I was playing it

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and playing it with friends and kind
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And then the other games, like
I've you know, put like ten hours

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into secu Row and then kind of
fell off. I've played like a few

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hours of blood Born Free hours of
Dark Souls two and never really got into

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it. And the Dark Soul's one
is the one I've spent a lot of

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time with as well. I've put
like forty hours into it. But then

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fucking Crystal Caves, which is just
the worst designed area of like maybe any

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game ever. I absolutely hate that
area, and that's where I ended up

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quitting. So the only ones I've
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So I've definitely dabbled a lot in
these games, but never I'm not really

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a master at any of them.
And Elden Ring, yeah, I put

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like I think it was seventy eighty
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beat the final boss. And then
like the main bosses, I didn't do

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one hundred percent every dungeon and all
that, but I've done all the kind

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of main big story things and maybe
not all the quests because the quests make

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no sense in this game either,
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spent a lot of time with it, but yeah, I haven't pl like,

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you know, I finished all that
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after after the game came out.
Haven't really revisited it at all. And

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I've I've talked about this before on
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hit and miss when it comes to
DLC for games like this. You know,

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if it's like a live service game
or an online focused game, DLC

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makes sense pretty straightforward there. Then
I feel like with other DLC for games

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like this, like I always think
of Horizon Zero Dona how that DLC came

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out and it was like, oh, here's some really challenging extra content.

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But it came up along, you
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I'm like, man, I'm bad
at this game again, and like jumping

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into harder content is not what I
need right now, and so I ended

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up bouncing off it or just even
for games like Resident Evil Village, which

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I loved, I just like,
I don't really need this DLC. I

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kind of got my experience there,
and honestly, when it came to elden

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Ring, I was kind of like
I wanted to get into it just because

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you know it's gonna be one of
the most anticipated things of the year,

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but my hype level was kind of
lower on it because I feel like,

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yeah, I kind of went through
my Elden Ring journey and so I think

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jumping into this it takes It's taken
me a bit to kind of get back

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into the flow of things. And
because obviously, like from software, games

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are such a polarizing experience with high
highs and low lows. Yeah, and

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I think just trying to get back
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Elden Rang one, it doesn't take
that long to remember the buttons and all

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that, because like my build is
simple. I'm a slow dude. I

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spam roll and I use one big
axe and to like the heavy roll and

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everything. No, no, I
definitely keep my weight done enough so I

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get a quick roll. But like, I don't block at all. I've

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never parried in this game once.
I don't even really ever use the lock

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on. Like I'm a very specific
I love using Torrent. If I can

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do any battle on the horse,
I usually will, So I feel like

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I'm a pretty simple play style,
so it actually helped me kind of get

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back into the groove of it,
and I think, you know, the

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first couple hours, like I went
through one area was pretty simple but pretty

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small, and then I started going
through this other kind of castle area and

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got to a boss which I think
is one of the main like stories in

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the DLC now or is this in
the origin of the DC now? Yeah,

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getting into the DLC, like it
got to this one boss after getting

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through this tougher area, and you
know, this boss had like a cut

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scene, which you know just means
he's like more of a story focused one

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and absolutely destroying me, kicking my
ass, just like destroying me relentlessly.

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I died like probably ten fifteen times, and I was getting pretty frustrated.

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I'm like, man, I've seen
all this discord, Like is this DLC

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too hard? I'm like, yeah, this this deal is way too hard

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for me. I hate this.
But then it's like, oh, yeah,

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I gotta remember, like this is
Elden Ring and this is not a

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Dark Soul's game. I can just
go anywhere else and go do a million

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other things instead of bashing my head
against the wall. And so that's what

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I did. I disappeared, went
to go check out some other areas,

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left that boss behind put a marker
on my map, so I don't forget

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about him. Uh, And then
because of that, I've been kind of

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enjoying the experience a lot more.
I found. I'm like maybe five or

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six hours in. I've just defeated
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time, had some some good fights, nothing too tricky after that one that

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I kind of skipped out on.
A couple couple harder ones, more just

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like a big enemy health bar.
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more Elden Ring. It's more of
the same, And since this game is

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so good and interesting, that's really
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Like, I don't know what other
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or areas that are particularly interesting.
So far, it's been more like part

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of the course in terms of aesthetics
and enemy types. But yeah, like

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once again, that's kind of all
I really need for this kind of thing.

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So yeah, it's been it's been
fun getting back in there, and

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I think they do a couple of
really smart things. One is like the

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level up system in this of course
it's eld drinks. It's confusing, the

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item descriptions suck and don't make sense, but you know, do a little

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googling. There's these these it's called
like the Skadrew Tree Blessing or something like

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that, and that's kind of like
the way that they scale the difficulty.

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They kind of it sounds like what
they do is like putting you in this

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DLC everyone, no matter if your
level twenty. I don't know if you

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can get to beat mog By level
twenty, but let's say you could.

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Let's say your level twenty or you're
on New Game Plus twelve and your level

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seven thousand, whatever. It is
like you go into the DLC and you're

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gonna be about the same power level
as each other. And then the way

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it like scales up is yeah,
once again you are just like leveling up

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your character more and getting you know, more maximum health and damage. But

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then as you're getting these blessings,
that's scaling your damage reduction that damage you

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do. And then there's different ones
for leveling up your horse again to get

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him up to up to par.
And so that's what they kind of have

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done here to make the balance work. And like it's insane, like if

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you compare getting one of those blessings
to leveling up once in this game is

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nowhere close. Like leveling up is
such an incremental thing on my character is

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like a level one hundred and forty
or something in this game. And when

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I get a level up, it's
it's good, it's noticeable, but it's

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like a very minute amount, whereas
these like I was fighting one boss and

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each my hits was doing like four
hundred damage. I picked up I love

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the one of these blessings, and
then I was doing six hundred damage,

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like a fifty percent increase. Like
that's pretty drastic for like one upgrade level

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in this And obviously it's you know, a smaller DLC, smaller to the

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you know, base game, but
I'm sure it's still huge based on experience,

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like even what I've experienced so far. So yeah, like the balance

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of it seems pretty well tuned in
that way, and once again just incentivizing

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expiration if you're gonna get like it
seems like no matter what, some of

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these early bosses are gonna kick your
ass. But just you gotta go explore,

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you gotta go find more of these
blessings, and some of them are

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hidden in pretty crazy spots and I'm
sure there's a ton of them out there,

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so yeah, definitely. That's my
biggest recommendation is if this is very

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hard, if you ever wanted trouble
with this DLC, just keep exploring,

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get more of those blessings because they
do a really significant percentage to your like

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damage and stuff like that. And
so I'm sure when I've leveled up a

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bit more and I go back to
that first boss that was really stumping me,

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I'm sure it'll be a bit better. But man, his hip boxes.

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I could not read what he was
doing. He's just spinning. It's

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like a tornado. It's flying at
me. So it was really hard to

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keep track of what was going on. Yeah, I was gonna ask,

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so is it pretty much to the
DLC like when you start off, when

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you're going it sounds like it's very
much like just the base game where they

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give you an area a map and
you can explore it all. I was

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wondering if it was more streamlined,
like is it the same way where you're

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kind of in an area to start
and you have to get past something and

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unlock it, or is it,
hey, this map that you have you

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can just go anywhere from the start. It seems like it seems like from

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the very very beginning area there's kind
of like three branching paths. You can

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take up this castle area. You
can go across this bridge, or you

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can go I don't know, down
this hill to this other side, and

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like that one way I went,
it was a pretty short area, unless

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I probably missed some cave somewhere,
but I think the idea of that area,

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you're supposed to go down there,
and then like from there you get

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a crazy view and you can see
often in the horizon and look at it

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like some areas that you can't get
to yet, but you're gonna. It's

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almost like foreshadow of what's good to
come. So I would say it's maybe

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it feels maybe slightly more linear than
like limb Grave for example. Yeah,

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but even then, man, like
the way the amount of forks in the

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road that this takes, there's so
many places so far around. I'm just

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like, okay, I'm gonna drop
a marker because I need to remember that.

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Like I took a fork here and
then that fork ended up taking me

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six hours. You know, I'm
not six hours in yet, but like

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another I just walked for another half
an hour before I found anything of interest,

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and then there's another fork in the
road. So it's a lot of

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that, and I'm sure they'll kind
of loop back into each other in some

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way. But once again, that
Eldon Ring thing, just looking out deep

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in the horizon and seeing some castle
like a million miles away and just knowing

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someday I'm gonna get there. Yeah, there's definitely a lot of that in

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different different regions. And you know, I think one of my favorite and

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highest highs in the base game of
Golden Ring is just going deep into those

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caves like Ceo for River and what
is it called ants Antsrialla River whatever,

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Like just those areas and how they
just go down and down and down and

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down forever and then you're just in
this whole other world. And then those

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areas are just massive, as massive
as limb grave as. It feels like

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that's very much maybe not quite to
that scale yet, but similar things are

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happening where I'm just like, oh, this look is a funny little cave,

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and then I go down and down
and down. Then I pop out

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of these waterfalls end up in this
whole different area and then I'm like,

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oh, I'm back at that place
that I saw from that cliff, you

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know, yeah, when I very
much started. So it's a lot of

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those moments and that satisfaction is coming
in there. And it seems like the

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similar kind of scale, and you
know UDN Ring has that map and every

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time you get a new map piece, it like three scales the overall map.

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And like I've already had a couple
of those moments where it's like,

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oh wow, this map is bigger
than I thought it was. And obviously

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the basic had a ton of that, so I'm sure that that's gonna happen

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again here. And is it something
that kind of like there's that in the

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menu when you pause you go out, there's like that round table thing where

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you can go to it's like a
separate area, and you yeah, with

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this, is it something that's connected
to the map that you can go at

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any point or is it something you
actually have to go in access to get

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to this world in the DLC.
It's funny, I totally forgot about that

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round table area. I'm like,
I guess I should go back there.

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Sometimes I go there to from my
like whatever the smitherin or whatnot, Like

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that's yeah, right, yeah,
keep kind of guys. Yeah, there

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is other places, but it's just
to go to if Okay, I gotta

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get this weapon, it's safe there, I'm gonna go there. So yeah,

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I so far, it's like it's
a separate map and I like it.

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Yeah, I don't think it connects
in any way like you have to.

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You have a loading screen that takes
you there, and then I haven't

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actually tried to leave yet, so
I'm not sure how. I'm sure you

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can go back to the main map
at any point, but when I go

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to my map screen, it's just
like the DLC map, So I'm sure

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there's there's probably just like hit why
to toggle to the other map, but

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I haven't felt the need to do
that yet. And you know, funny

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you mentioned that the smith and that
round tailor are the one thing that I

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think is cool too, Like a
couple areas very early on in this DLC

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you go through and like there's just
a ton of the smithing stones to collect,

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which I think is smart because I
got to a point where like,

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man, I'm I gotta really use
every last one, even if it's like

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the tier one. I gotta make
sure I'm saving these for the right things.

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And I feel like, because there's
so many new items and weapons that

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you're gonna be finding this DLC,
I think they tried to have a couple

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of areas where you can almost just
farm these infinitively nice and so it's one

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of those things that like, even
if you're doing a regular play through the

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game now, and let's say you're
on nougame Plus, it might be good

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to like rush down mog get to
the DLC area, get to that area,

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and then you can just like start
farming smithing stones that you need if

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you want to keep upgrading stuff.
So it seems like there's a couple like

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almost quality of life areas where like
that area was very easy. There wasn't

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even a boss there, but it's
really just a place to kind of farm

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smithing stones, which is which is
really nice because I don't know, maybe

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there's places like that in the base
game, but I never really like,

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I know, I went through a
couple of mines, but I didn't know

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if they were infinitive sources of those
or just kind of you know, you're

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gonna get twenty smithing stones here or
something like that. Okay, that's good,

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No, Yeah, and yeah,
I guess uh, I don't really

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feel the need to spoil anything yet, especially because you're you know, haven't

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got to this stuff yet and I'm
not super deep, super deep into what

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we will do a more spoilery discussion
when you're further into a two knows that

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could take a while, but we'll
do it eventually. But yeah, I

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I I. One thing I've seen
a ton of discourse on this online is

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just people saying that the DLC is
too hard and obviously set. I have

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not beaten yet, so I have
no idea, but I I do feel

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like this understanding how powerful those blessings
are and how much they affect your stats.

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It's insane how much they affect your
stats. So I feel like if

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my inclination would be to say that, no, I doubt this DLC is

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gonna be a whole lot harder,
but you just have to like up,

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like upgrade your character again. It
doesn't matter if you're on New Game plus

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seven, like you're gonna have to
go through this new level up process.

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Sorry if you feel like you wanted
to grind hard to be ready for urg

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Tree, but it seems like they
wanted to kind of balance the scales,

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which I think is the right thing
to do for a game that's been out

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for this long, and you're gonna
have people, you know, at all

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sorts of levels of difficulty and skills. So I don't know, maybe maybe

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I'll come across a couple of bosses
that are super difficult, but I'm curious

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that anyone as difficult as Millennia because
that boss fight was absolutely stupid difficult in

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the main game. So we'll see
if that happens. And for me,

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I also wonder too if it's a
conscious choice, because, like you said,

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those blessings, so maybe people can
go around and focus on that.

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But it's also I can't remember what
is Is there a time stamp for how

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long this is? Roughly? Obviously
there is, I'm not sure if you

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know, but it's not as long
as the main game, right, So

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my idea is just kind of like
they can kind of make it harder in

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a way because they it's less time, but that almost makes it more time

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because if you were just I feel
like if they were to make it just

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stream roll through all the bosses in
the areas, you'd have the opposite effect.

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Well, now that'd be too easy, but people be like, oh,

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they made a big deal because this
was like a it's like a big

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dalc you pay for it separately.
It's almost treated as like a mini second

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game, right, So to me, then make it hard kind of makes

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sense as far as hey, there's
less game, but it might take you

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a little longer to get through certain
areas, where like if I'd say this

407
00:22:36,079 --> 00:22:37,759
game was twenty hours, maybe the
first twenty hours of alban Ring, you

408
00:22:37,759 --> 00:22:41,000
can go a lot further and do
a lot more, but because the difficulties

409
00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:44,079
a little harder there, I think
that's something that they can kind of make

410
00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:47,480
you feel like you're getting more bang
for even if it's frustering, which I

411
00:22:47,519 --> 00:22:49,759
do understand, because I feel like
there's a point where if you just feel

412
00:22:49,799 --> 00:22:52,920
like you can't progress anymore and you
just don't want to go back and go

413
00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:56,079
through another cave or go just go
XP farm, because sometimes it's like,

414
00:22:56,079 --> 00:23:00,680
Okay, this is a little monotonous, especially in that because I won in

415
00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:03,079
the main game at least right now
where I am still like okay, if

416
00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:04,400
this is too hard or not,
like in this area, I still have

417
00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:07,960
a lot kind of in the right
corner of the map that I haven't explored

418
00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:11,839
where I feel like in the DLC
that will be something where I peell explore

419
00:23:11,839 --> 00:23:15,000
a lot and they're just stuck on
a boss. Then they might feel a

420
00:23:15,039 --> 00:23:18,279
little repetitive. So I could see
that aspect of I just can't beat this

421
00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:22,160
guy, and I really don't just
want to do you know this over No,

422
00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:22,960
I don't just want to kill enemies. I don't want to go back

423
00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:26,920
to the new game plus and update
my character. So I do get a

424
00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:30,240
portion of that. But that is
the novelty of these games, right with

425
00:23:30,319 --> 00:23:33,240
the no difficulty and stuff. So
yeah, no, that's a good point,

426
00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:37,160
you know which, at the DLC, like, no matter what,

427
00:23:37,319 --> 00:23:41,160
it is smaller, there's less scale, there's less bosses, there's less of

428
00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:42,759
all of that in terms of that
element of it of like, yeah,

429
00:23:42,759 --> 00:23:45,839
this is way too hard, I'm
gonna go do something else. I wonder

430
00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:48,039
if you'll bump in the wall where
it's like, okay, well, now

431
00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:49,759
there's really like the only two ways
to progress would be to kill either of

432
00:23:49,799 --> 00:23:52,799
these two bosses, and like they're
both really hard. So I don't know.

433
00:23:52,839 --> 00:23:56,680
I guess there's probably still more exploration
you could do at that point,

434
00:23:56,720 --> 00:24:02,440
but I don't know from like from
software they said that this deal sees comparable

435
00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:04,599
to the size of limb Grave,
But then I saw people saying that almost

436
00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:08,720
like immediately like, yeah, that's
a lie. It's way bigger than That's

437
00:24:08,759 --> 00:24:11,720
what I heard too. Yeah that's
what I think. Yeah, Like,

438
00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:17,079
I think time is so hard because
even on our like when I did discussion

439
00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:19,319
on this game on the base game
with Cooper and Dante, they're like,

440
00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:22,920
you know, masters of these played
all these games multiple times, so they're

441
00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:26,640
way better at these games than me. But it took them longer to like

442
00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:30,799
beat the main boss because they did
so much more exploration and stuff that I

443
00:24:30,839 --> 00:24:33,960
didn't even know existed, and they
went through like every cave mayde sure they

444
00:24:33,039 --> 00:24:37,279
checked like every corner of the map, whereas I was kind of less thorough

445
00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:40,480
in that way. So I think
it's just there's gonna be so much very

446
00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:42,480
variance on like the mileage of how
long it'll take each of the into a

447
00:24:42,559 --> 00:24:45,839
person. But yeah, if that's
the size of it, uh, then

448
00:24:48,079 --> 00:24:49,799
I don't know. I imagine I'll
get another twenty hours out of it.

449
00:24:49,839 --> 00:24:53,039
For myself. I mean, I'm
already five six hours in and I feel

450
00:24:53,079 --> 00:24:56,160
like I've barely scratched the surface.
Like I said, I don't think I've

451
00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:59,759
killed any of the quote unquote essential
bosses at this point. I've mostly just

452
00:24:59,799 --> 00:25:03,279
killed bosses that are like roaming around
in the open world and then a couple

453
00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:08,160
of those kind of legacy dungeon little
cave entrance things too. So yeah,

454
00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:11,599
I'm I'm I'm excited to play more
of it. It's it's been fun to

455
00:25:11,599 --> 00:25:14,599
get back into it. Man,
I missed my character of Bill Jewele,

456
00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:18,000
who just looks like he looks like
a final boss at this point, with

457
00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:21,440
like the armor I have, with
like how weathered he is, the huge

458
00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:23,759
acts that I use, and the
different big weapons that I've used. I

459
00:25:23,799 --> 00:25:29,279
haven't unfortunately found like a new exciting
weapon yet because I was gonna ask you

460
00:25:29,279 --> 00:25:32,160
about that. There's been a couple
like one I found is like an anvil

461
00:25:32,559 --> 00:25:33,519
on a stick, and I'm like, I want to use that. It's

462
00:25:33,519 --> 00:25:37,119
like totally in my wheelhouse, a
big, heavy, blunt object, but

463
00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:41,359
it requires me to have a pretty
high intstat I think intelligence, which like

464
00:25:41,559 --> 00:25:45,240
my character is not. He's big, dumb and strong and that's about it.

465
00:25:45,519 --> 00:25:48,160
So I don't have any of the
faith or intelligence stats, so unfortunately

466
00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:52,960
I can't really effectively use that.
Which That's one thing I guess slightly bothers

467
00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:56,720
me about some of these weapon types
in these games is how ineffective they are

468
00:25:56,720 --> 00:26:00,119
if you don't have like the perfect
stats. I guess, especially if it's

469
00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:03,079
a big anvil, like come on, I'm this big strong guy, let

470
00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:06,680
me swing this thing around. But
especially when it's like if it's a stat

471
00:26:06,759 --> 00:26:08,759
that's like a massive jump up,
I wish there was maybe, which I

472
00:26:08,759 --> 00:26:11,640
get it though, because that's where
you could play a new character. But

473
00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:15,279
I just feel like if something to
scale in a way where okay, maybe

474
00:26:15,279 --> 00:26:18,200
it's just one or two sets or
something, it's like, oh, you

475
00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:19,160
gotta have this and you gotta be
Oh yeah, I've never been at a

476
00:26:19,279 --> 00:26:22,519
point where I'm like two into way. It's like I always like fifteen into

477
00:26:22,519 --> 00:26:26,920
all. I'm not going to invest
all these runes to get to that point.

478
00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:30,920
But I guess, yeah, I
guess if there's infinitive new game pluses

479
00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:34,799
and like there's no level cap,
I don't think that eventually you could have

480
00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:38,640
high enough stats to I guess be
proficient with all the weapons. But yeah,

481
00:26:38,759 --> 00:26:45,839
that's not that's not the kind of
experience I'm personally looking for. Yeah,

482
00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:48,319
I think maybe that's a good place
to leave it for eldering. I

483
00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:51,640
don't know if there's much else to
say for now, but yeah, it's

484
00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:55,480
been a really good time so far, and I'm excited to jump into it

485
00:26:55,480 --> 00:27:03,000
some more. Let's take a quick
break and we'll be right back. Okay,

486
00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:08,200
we are back. We're talking about
an older game, twenty fifteen Mad

487
00:27:08,279 --> 00:27:12,119
Max. Yeah, so this is
this is a game that is made by

488
00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:18,279
Avalanche, the Just Just Cause team, which is interesting. And I know

489
00:27:18,319 --> 00:27:19,759
that you're a fan of at least
one or two of those games, at

490
00:27:19,839 --> 00:27:22,480
least three, at least three of
those games. Okay, no, No,

491
00:27:22,519 --> 00:27:27,000
I meant like the third number three, that's the only one I've played,

492
00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:32,880
but I'm they I was an fan
and on coming out around this game.

493
00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:36,119
I feel like, in terms of
release dates, pretty within the FIRS.

494
00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:40,920
I think four was twenty nineteen or
something like that. So yeah,

495
00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:44,599
I could I'm making up numbers.
It's tough because I feel like it's tough

496
00:27:44,599 --> 00:27:47,799
because when I played it was a
PlayStation Plus game, so I think I

497
00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:49,680
played it after Mad Max, but
it could have very well came out around

498
00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:52,079
the time or before, oh,
twenty fifteen? Did it come out the

499
00:27:52,079 --> 00:27:56,279
same year as about two games?
Look at that? Impressive? Look at

500
00:27:56,279 --> 00:28:00,119
that? That is pretty crazy.
It's very very impressive. So well,

501
00:28:00,319 --> 00:28:03,359
this Bad Max game, so obviously
you've been a Bad Max fan for a

502
00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:07,240
long time. Did you play this
when it came out? Yeah, I

503
00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:10,920
did. I think it's pretty close
because you said twenty fifteen, right,

504
00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:14,680
So I think they think this was
like one of those where we're like in

505
00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:18,720
the dying era of they were close
enough to when the movie was out,

506
00:28:18,759 --> 00:28:21,920
So was that hype. I remember
when they announced it and I didn't know

507
00:28:22,039 --> 00:28:23,559
really studio, and that's when I
was not like where we are now where

508
00:28:23,559 --> 00:28:26,200
I have a good idea of studios
and whatnot. They announced me like,

509
00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:30,480
okay, that's cool. But the
thing is for me, I was never

510
00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:33,240
a big car guy, so it
wasn't really on the radar. But when

511
00:28:33,279 --> 00:28:36,039
Mad Max came, I was,
okay, I'm gonna scratch it. So

512
00:28:36,039 --> 00:28:38,559
I think if I didn't get the
because I purchased the game like full price,

513
00:28:38,599 --> 00:28:41,160
if I didn't get like the day
of, it was within the release

514
00:28:41,279 --> 00:28:44,680
window or a couple of weeks.
So yeah, it was early on when

515
00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:48,240
I got it, so nice and
uh yeah, I know this is like

516
00:28:48,279 --> 00:28:52,839
one of those games that you loved
back in the day and you've always talked

517
00:28:52,839 --> 00:28:55,759
about it, and then I've heard
like one or two people talk about it

518
00:28:55,759 --> 00:29:00,319
since it's it's so falling far under
the radar. But I obviously hadn't played

519
00:29:00,319 --> 00:29:03,720
it until just the last couple of
weeks. I've been playing it for the

520
00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:07,680
first time because it was deeply on
sale on Xbox. I was like three

521
00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:11,240
dollars or something like that. But
yeah, what what do you think of

522
00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:15,480
this game, especially like, I
don't know, coming back to it after

523
00:29:15,559 --> 00:29:18,599
a few years and you haven't played
it, How is it hitting in twenty

524
00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:21,319
twenty four for you now that you've
played like a million other open world games

525
00:29:21,319 --> 00:29:25,119
since then. Yeah. Well,
one thing that was cool that during the

526
00:29:25,279 --> 00:29:29,079
Furiosa movie there was like I think
a little uptick in people wanting to play

527
00:29:29,079 --> 00:29:30,039
it or people talk about like,
hey, you should really do that.

528
00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:33,599
Learned that the developer said that they
had a bunch of DLC plan but I

529
00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:37,039
got cut out from the leg so
that was a bummer for me. So

530
00:29:37,279 --> 00:29:38,599
because of bad sales for me,
I think so yeah, because I don't

531
00:29:38,599 --> 00:29:41,799
think it did that well. And
like you said, you've probably heard a

532
00:29:41,839 --> 00:29:44,599
couple of people talk about it,
but I feel like it is a really

533
00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:48,359
underrage gym, and I hadn't played
it for many years. I apparently I

534
00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:52,160
messaged you, and I so bummed. I lost my save file. I

535
00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:55,000
even went to my PS four didn't
find it on there at all, so

536
00:29:55,039 --> 00:29:56,960
I really don't know what happened to
it. So I was looking forward to

537
00:29:57,039 --> 00:30:02,119
getting my souped up via call all
and I'd done the main story done,

538
00:30:02,119 --> 00:30:03,839
a lot of side quests, had
a lot of the territories down, so

539
00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:07,680
I was kind of starting from scratch. So right away that was a bummer.

540
00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:10,279
But now I've pretty much just done. I did the few main missions

541
00:30:10,319 --> 00:30:12,759
you had to do, and then
I did nothing but side missions or just

542
00:30:12,839 --> 00:30:17,319
taken down the territory. And I
still really enjoy it. And I guess

543
00:30:17,359 --> 00:30:19,480
what I've said before, Whereds,
I don't think it's like revolutionary, but

544
00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:23,359
there's just something enjoyable about You'll be
on the road and you see a car

545
00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:26,599
or they ram you, and then
it's like, okay, I want to

546
00:30:26,599 --> 00:30:29,640
take this thing down, especially once
you get that harpoon going and you can

547
00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:32,480
get that like leveled up. So
it's just like I think, it's just

548
00:30:32,519 --> 00:30:33,880
kind of things that we talk about, like Midnight Suns and other games we

549
00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:37,720
have in common. Were For me, it's a just the the cycle is

550
00:30:37,759 --> 00:30:41,079
fun. And there's so many times
where I will have a mission and I'm

551
00:30:41,079 --> 00:30:45,680
going somewhere but they're like, oh, this thing has some viable loot and

552
00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:48,279
it like it or just has like
a cool skull, and You're like,

553
00:30:48,279 --> 00:30:51,359
oh, I'd like that, and
here you are half an hour later because

554
00:30:52,039 --> 00:30:53,480
I love it. It's not the
same extent of el really we're talking about,

555
00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:57,400
but like, technically, almost everything
in this game you can do at

556
00:30:57,440 --> 00:31:00,960
any point. It's just the level, Like how much time do you want

557
00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:03,119
to waste on this? Right?
You can go take down a truck in

558
00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:06,920
a ramada, but if they're like
certain levels, it could take you a

559
00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:10,960
while. And I especially because me, I'm playing the mindset I've done this

560
00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:14,079
before, I've been here, so
I'm taking on these enemies that I shouldn't

561
00:31:14,079 --> 00:31:15,880
really be taking on right now.
It's kind of a waste of time,

562
00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:17,799
but I'm like, well, no, I've beaten this game before, so

563
00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:19,359
I did that. But it just
it takes a while, and there's certain

564
00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:22,079
I think like boss battles. Of
course not but that's why, like you

565
00:31:22,119 --> 00:31:26,079
can kind of go not anywhere,
but for the most part, just kind

566
00:31:26,119 --> 00:31:27,440
of go out and like I said, I did the main story and then

567
00:31:27,839 --> 00:31:32,200
I did probably three or four days
of nothing but side quest and it wasn't

568
00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:33,440
at any point like, oh,
you're locked, you can't do this,

569
00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:37,200
or there's things going on. I
think there's certain parts of the map,

570
00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:40,799
but for the most part they let
you free roam quite a bit. Again,

571
00:31:40,839 --> 00:31:41,920
when you get into an area you're
not supposed to be and you're gonna

572
00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:45,960
feel it, but if you play
smart enough and you're not careless, you

573
00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:48,960
can get past it. And yeah, there's just something about for me,

574
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:53,119
it's the the gameplay is like the
fighting combat is fine. It's like a

575
00:31:53,319 --> 00:31:56,160
lesser Arkham in my opinion, it
has that sort of thing. It doesn't

576
00:31:56,599 --> 00:32:00,519
I don't think it's as smooth as
the Arkham games. You don't have as

577
00:32:00,599 --> 00:32:02,240
much gadgets as like a Spiderman and
Batman, so that makes it a little

578
00:32:02,279 --> 00:32:06,960
less fun. Animations are fantastic though, yeah, and the sound does have

579
00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:09,200
a really good feel, even though
it is quite simple. And I mean

580
00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:14,079
there is upgrade trees all over the
place for like, oh yeah, hand

581
00:32:14,079 --> 00:32:15,960
to hand combat and whatnot, so
I'm sure it'll get a bit better,

582
00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:19,799
but I actually like it for what
it is. If I don't, sometimes

583
00:32:19,799 --> 00:32:21,480
it can be a bit tedious.
But once again, maybe I just need

584
00:32:21,559 --> 00:32:23,000
to get my power up so I
can take people out quicker. Yeah,

585
00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:27,160
you got a light attack, you
gotta heavy attack, you gotta fury,

586
00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:29,440
you gotta finish her. And then
you can pick up melee weapons, which

587
00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:30,880
actually are kind of fun when you
get those, and I like that they

588
00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:35,000
make them do a lot of damage. So that stuff's all fine and dandy.

589
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:37,480
But for me, it is it's
the car combat. It's the there's

590
00:32:37,519 --> 00:32:40,599
nothing better than you time a jump
and like you hit your boos at the

591
00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:45,000
same time and you hit a car
and you just see vehicles fly everywhere in

592
00:32:45,079 --> 00:32:46,799
parts and like I said, or
if you can just time where you can

593
00:32:47,079 --> 00:32:50,839
get a door off and then harpoon
a driver and just pull them out.

594
00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:52,640
Like that's what I like. Where
at first it looks like it could just

595
00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:58,119
be especially when it's a bunch of
vehicles. That's when to me it's almost

596
00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:00,599
like there's a chess match too,
because yeah, you could just go ram

597
00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:02,519
though, but no, it is
a thing of Okay, this guy's door

598
00:33:02,559 --> 00:33:06,240
I can take off, but this
guy's door I can't. This guy can

599
00:33:06,359 --> 00:33:08,119
ram, this guy can ram,
but it's really not gonna do much damage.

600
00:33:08,319 --> 00:33:10,960
If I could take out these drivers, then I'll be kind of two

601
00:33:12,119 --> 00:33:14,759
versus one, or I could,
you know, go for the blow of

602
00:33:14,799 --> 00:33:16,799
try to like jump out the vehicle
and go hand to hand. But sometimes

603
00:33:16,799 --> 00:33:20,880
there's lots of guys and there's always
gonna be one car that's like gonna keep

604
00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:22,440
trying to run you over. So
I love the scenarios, and for me,

605
00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:27,200
it's especially as it goes along updating
the car. And again, not

606
00:33:27,279 --> 00:33:30,319
a car guy at all, but
I feel like that I don't care so

607
00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:32,640
much about the max skill tree.
I actually am not a fan of many

608
00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:37,160
of the options because it's just stuff
like your water is better, your fuels

609
00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:40,400
better, like it's very very basic
upgrades. But the car stuff that for

610
00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:44,480
me actually feels like it has some
purpose to it, whether it's the look

611
00:33:44,559 --> 00:33:46,160
or just like I said, the
harpoon, I'm all about the harpoon.

612
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:51,000
So the second again, so satisfying
when you can get a tire and you

613
00:33:51,359 --> 00:33:53,119
go down a cliff and you rip
it off, it's it's great stuff.

614
00:33:53,119 --> 00:33:57,680
So I'm I'm still tons of fun
with it and scratch the itch. I

615
00:33:57,680 --> 00:34:00,400
put on Spotify and put on the
MaDMaX and Feroes of soundtracks. Yeah,

616
00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:02,920
so just doing that. So yeah, it was really good. I don't

617
00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:07,640
think I'm gonna go and beat the
whole main campaign again unless I run out

618
00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:09,280
stuff. I think right now,
I'm kind of more focused on elm Ring.

619
00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:14,119
But I returned it and had it
was a point where I was playing

620
00:34:14,119 --> 00:34:15,199
it and you have that time we
go, oh, I should have went

621
00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:17,360
to bed by now, you know, and that's the sign of Okay,

622
00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:21,440
I still enjoy this game. Or
even the first time in elm Ring,

623
00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:22,320
there was a part of me like
I don't know if I want to get

624
00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:24,679
back into this because not because it's
not fun, but it's just like that's

625
00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:28,440
such a challenge and Mad Max is
not that level of challenge. But then

626
00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:30,880
same thing eventually, keep going,
keep going to the elm Rings like okay,

627
00:34:31,119 --> 00:34:34,679
now in three hours past bedtime,
I'm back in the cycle. Okay,

628
00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:37,559
I found it. But Mad Max
I still was having a good time.

629
00:34:37,599 --> 00:34:42,039
I think that's a fun representation of
the world. I like the I

630
00:34:42,039 --> 00:34:44,480
think the sound design is really cool. So yeah, I think it's like

631
00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:47,320
a really just fun, underrated game
that I wish did do better, just

632
00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:52,199
so I get that DLC, but
it's it's a game that I'm happy I

633
00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:54,599
physically own because it's one of those
like I don't know if you're ever gonna

634
00:34:54,599 --> 00:34:58,320
be always able to buy it in
the future because it is such like a

635
00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:01,159
lower tier game. So this,
this is what I'm happying. Any license

636
00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:07,400
thing, you always absolutely some days
something's gonna expire, whether it's a character

637
00:35:07,559 --> 00:35:09,639
likeness or a song or something,
and then it's going to just be taking

638
00:35:09,639 --> 00:35:13,880
off the store without any notice.
Usually too, which every day because it's

639
00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:15,599
also my algorithm, but not every
day else like every week if I long

640
00:35:15,679 --> 00:35:20,159
on Twitter, there's somebody eire talking
about the old Marvel games or the Lord

641
00:35:20,159 --> 00:35:22,559
of the Rings games, where it's
just like, man, I would love

642
00:35:22,639 --> 00:35:24,559
to get these games back, but
it's like you're just you're just stuck.

643
00:35:24,599 --> 00:35:28,960
Anytime PlayStations like oh, we're bringing
some PS two classics. I see that

644
00:35:29,039 --> 00:35:31,039
air Gorne on the cover with Gandalf
everyone's like, oh, I wish So

645
00:35:31,199 --> 00:35:35,559
that's why I'm happy with this one. It's owned for me. So but

646
00:35:35,639 --> 00:35:38,599
yeah, we love the Retro Gaming
Convention because they just, yeah, copies

647
00:35:38,639 --> 00:35:43,280
of those games abound. It's unfortunately
it's something like Ultimate Alliance, like you

648
00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:45,719
can't go buy that DLC anymore,
but you know, copies of all those

649
00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:52,039
Lord of the Rings conquests and did
they not have any what was it a

650
00:35:52,119 --> 00:35:55,039
Game of the Year editions because they
sold a couple of those after the fact

651
00:35:55,039 --> 00:35:59,159
for the first Marvel Alliance game.
It's like a different cover. So but

652
00:35:59,199 --> 00:36:02,360
the thing is, here's the thing
with an X like, because a lot

653
00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:07,840
of those games to the issue is
like backwards compatibility is not eligible for them.

654
00:36:07,039 --> 00:36:10,760
Okay, so even if you take
Ultimate Alliance Game of the Year and

655
00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:14,480
s like I still have a three
sixty, but like, am I really

656
00:36:14,519 --> 00:36:17,039
gonna plug in my three sixty?
I guess I do it in a while,

657
00:36:17,079 --> 00:36:20,039
But yeah, like I don't know
if you could just plug it into

658
00:36:20,079 --> 00:36:22,880
your Series X And obviously that would
be a PS three game. So PS

659
00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:27,440
five wouldn't have backwards compatibility on m
M. I wonder if they still sell

660
00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:30,039
them at one point because I bought
them for the PS four. They sold

661
00:36:30,119 --> 00:36:35,280
remasters of them on the PS four
in that era of my P four is

662
00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:37,920
still plugged in, so actually for
that copy. Yeah, so I'm not

663
00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:38,920
sure if it's there, but that's
cool. That's cool that they had though.

664
00:36:39,039 --> 00:36:42,920
That's awesome. Mm hmmm. Uh
yeah. So, I, like

665
00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:45,000
I said, hadn't played this game
back in the day, and even though

666
00:36:45,039 --> 00:36:49,440
yeah, I heard you say that
it was good and fun, I still

667
00:36:49,679 --> 00:36:52,000
don't trust me back then. So
it's not that it's just that I don't

668
00:36:52,039 --> 00:36:55,119
really know what to expect for the
actually, like you know, of course

669
00:36:55,119 --> 00:36:58,719
it's gonna be like car combat,
but that's like as much as I would

670
00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:01,199
expect from it, or yeah,
going into it knowing there's gonna be something

671
00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:06,039
like that. But yeah, I've
been really pleasantly surprised with it. I

672
00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:09,760
am having an amazing time. I
think this is a fun freaking game on

673
00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:14,239
like just a minute to minute gameplay
part of it. You know. I

674
00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:17,960
feel like the checklisty open world is
almost like a derogatory term these days,

675
00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:21,840
but I think this game like nails
it in terms of like, yeah,

676
00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:23,559
there's all sorts of things you can
and can't do, but I think I

677
00:37:23,599 --> 00:37:28,039
mean that same kind of a cycle
as you, or I'm not really doing

678
00:37:28,079 --> 00:37:31,440
any critical path stuff. I'm more
just like what seems fun in this moment,

679
00:37:31,519 --> 00:37:35,280
or maybe I want to go for
a certain base upgrade so then I

680
00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:37,559
can make more currency when I'm not
even playing the game, and like just

681
00:37:37,599 --> 00:37:40,440
go for a certain different like there's
so many different options of what I can

682
00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:43,920
do, or just like yeah,
maybe I want to go get take down

683
00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:46,599
a base and spend the time to
like scout it out or talk to local

684
00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:50,800
like other wastelanders who are like scouting
out the area and get some intel from

685
00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:53,880
them on like a secret entrance.
Like that stuff is super fun. So

686
00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:58,599
yeah, like I just I think
the gameplay is really fun and obviously,

687
00:37:58,639 --> 00:38:01,840
like when you have one of these
checklist like icon Vomit games, like obviously

688
00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:05,679
there's always something to do. Yeah, it's like that's exactly what I want

689
00:38:05,679 --> 00:38:07,559
from it. Like I don't want
to hunt down the main story of this.

690
00:38:07,639 --> 00:38:09,039
I just want like if I'm gonna
spend half an hour, I'm gonna

691
00:38:09,039 --> 00:38:12,079
go do a couple of quests and
then yeah, maybe that half an hour

692
00:38:12,119 --> 00:38:14,880
will turn into an hour because of
the kind of game it is. You

693
00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:19,639
feel minute stuff is just like perfect, it's so well tuned. I find,

694
00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:22,119
Yeah, well it's this garticular I
feel it could be like, Oh,

695
00:38:22,159 --> 00:38:25,519
they'll introduce like those posts like whatever
they are where you you harpoon them

696
00:38:25,559 --> 00:38:29,719
and pull them down. Yeah,
and you just make one, then you

697
00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:31,039
do a balloon and then you go
down your balloon. There's like ten of

698
00:38:31,079 --> 00:38:34,920
them around and that's where I think
almost that that's what this game does.

699
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:37,880
But that's where in my head cand
of like planet because Max is always his

700
00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:40,280
traveler, so so it's a it
almost feels like it fits that game not

701
00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:45,559
to just always go Streamlinemen, because
like he's just looking for oil and goods.

702
00:38:45,599 --> 00:38:47,719
And there's some fun I forgot.
There's like some stuff where you'll go

703
00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:50,679
to an area to check it out
and there's like, oh, it's actually

704
00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:53,519
underground and you go there and there's
like there's sort of seen any of that

705
00:38:53,599 --> 00:38:55,960
really. Yes, Yeah, there's
one in the middle of desert. It's

706
00:38:55,960 --> 00:39:00,960
like a it looks like it's one
of those crates like orange or brown ones

707
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:02,719
where you have to harpoon it and
pull it. And there's one where I

708
00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:06,360
found that it was like a ladder
that led down it was like a watery,

709
00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:10,320
gross area. So there's it.
Like for me, it's actually it's

710
00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:14,159
funny because I feel like it's an
era of games we might not get anymore.

711
00:39:14,159 --> 00:39:16,679
But it's a pretty large game for
what I thought a Mad Max game

712
00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:19,840
would be, because I would feel
like you'd kind of get half of this,

713
00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:23,280
But there's it's treated like it's a
assassin's screen. You it sat like

714
00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:27,760
a big gonna be a pig,
like a cheap license game, and it

715
00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:30,199
is truly ambitious. And I think
once I saw because I didn't know this

716
00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:34,199
game was made by Avalanche until I
was, you know, loading in and

717
00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:37,599
saw that opening nikon, that's when
my expectations got a bit higher. Like,

718
00:39:37,639 --> 00:39:39,199
Okay, I think I like,
I haven't really played just cause a

719
00:39:39,199 --> 00:39:44,920
whole lot, but just seeing that
gets me pretty excited to see, like

720
00:39:45,079 --> 00:39:49,079
I'm sure like the crazy physics and
just oh yeah kind of gameplay that you

721
00:39:49,079 --> 00:39:52,880
can expect. But I think the
other thing that surprised me so much about

722
00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:57,239
it is just like how many freaking
systems there are in this game. Of

723
00:39:57,639 --> 00:40:00,159
like upgrading your vehicle is one thing, and there there's you know, twenty

724
00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:04,840
different ways you can upgrade your vehicle, and then there's different vehicles you can

725
00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:07,400
bring into your garage and work off
those, and then there's like the I

726
00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:10,840
forget the archangels, right, yeah, like the special cars on top of

727
00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:14,320
that, which I don't even understand
really what they do yet, but I'll

728
00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:16,199
figure that out at some point.
And then yeah, for like Max,

729
00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:21,079
there's like that toke that guy you
can bring tokens to or something, and

730
00:40:21,079 --> 00:40:22,239
then there's just like, yeah,
the base upgrades you can do on your

731
00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:25,960
character for like Melee columbup but then
also just for your character's based stats,

732
00:40:27,079 --> 00:40:30,199
and then you're capturing bases and there's
all these upgrades you can get in the

733
00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:34,199
bases. So there's just like all
these different mechanics going on, and like

734
00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:37,960
you know, they're pretty well interconnected, and it's a bit overwhelming if you

735
00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:39,199
want to do it all. And
a lot of it's just like you gotta

736
00:40:39,239 --> 00:40:42,960
get scrapped, but then there's ways
you can get like more efficient at getting

737
00:40:43,039 --> 00:40:45,079
scraps, so it kind of all
connects together. But it also means that

738
00:40:45,159 --> 00:40:50,760
like, no matter what you're doing, you're fueling into some upgrade because it

739
00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:53,039
all uses like the same currency.
For the most part there is like other

740
00:40:53,199 --> 00:40:57,840
you know, minor currencies, but
yeah, just it's all really well tuned.

741
00:40:57,880 --> 00:41:00,800
And I I love cars in games. I love driving games. I

742
00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:05,000
think I like driving games more than
I like racing games. Just when I

743
00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:07,519
can screw around like GTA. I
think that's my favorite party about GT is

744
00:41:07,559 --> 00:41:12,400
just if I'm to boil down what
I love about GT the most, it's

745
00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:15,239
just driving and like the car mechanics
feel so good in this game, with

746
00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:19,519
the physics and as you mentioned,
the harpoon like ripping doors off cars or

747
00:41:19,599 --> 00:41:23,360
ripping people out of cars. Yeah, yeah, and then whenever you let

748
00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:28,639
go and it like slingshots them like
a hundred meters out. It almost feels

749
00:41:28,639 --> 00:41:30,199
a bit too strong to do that. But then I know there's certain cars

750
00:41:30,199 --> 00:41:35,079
that are like way more armored and
it's really hard to actually hit someone with

751
00:41:35,159 --> 00:41:37,639
the harpoon, So even in that
way, it feels really well balanced.

752
00:41:37,639 --> 00:41:43,199
But yeah, I'm just absolutely loving
this game so far, and the destructibility

753
00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:46,239
of those different towers, like taking
down a sniper's nest or those like half

754
00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:49,920
the time I will shoot my harpoon
and bringing those towers down, but most

755
00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:52,400
of the time, like how can
I get the most speed, and yeah,

756
00:41:52,239 --> 00:41:55,599
fly off a cliff as much as
possible when you hit that triple boost

757
00:41:55,599 --> 00:41:58,639
too, like he hit it back
to back. That's great, And I

758
00:41:58,679 --> 00:42:01,639
know it sounds dumb, but I
think they did way more in the skame

759
00:42:01,679 --> 00:42:05,599
than they had to. All they
really had to do is the side missions

760
00:42:05,599 --> 00:42:07,400
and really nail the car combat to
me, because like, I know,

761
00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:10,320
it's a goals bad maxikin, but
like there's tons of games that they don't

762
00:42:10,679 --> 00:42:13,719
a game where you don't get out
of your car, and yeah, it

763
00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:15,719
would have been totally acceptable for what
it is. Yeah, or it's just

764
00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:20,039
like you hit a car and they
instantly explode, like that's not the main

765
00:42:20,079 --> 00:42:22,119
purpose of the game. So that's
where for me it was something where it

766
00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:27,400
like other than I'm trying to think, like you said, like GTA has

767
00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:30,679
like cars can ram into each other, but there's not car combat. And

768
00:42:30,719 --> 00:42:32,280
even when I think of like Twisted
Metal, that's a very different thing because

769
00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:35,719
a lot of times you're switching to
guns and you're shooting, and you're shooting

770
00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:38,360
bombs, like that's almost closer to
like what a Mario car would be.

771
00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:40,880
So like this way, it's like
I don't think there's too many games that

772
00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:45,679
there, at least ones I've played
that are very focused on car combat and

773
00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:49,000
car fights where it's like you can
ram, you can shoot, you can

774
00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:52,559
do the harpoon. There's other ways
like the side ram and everything. So

775
00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:55,199
I feel like that way, it's
very unique in a sense. It feels

776
00:42:55,239 --> 00:42:58,519
like it just didn't catch on the
same way like Lord of the Rings when

777
00:42:58,519 --> 00:43:00,280
they had the enemy system, I
was like, oh, oh, I

778
00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:02,519
love that. Like I feel like
if more people found this and fell in

779
00:43:02,559 --> 00:43:06,679
love with this combat, it could
have had a chance. But I don't

780
00:43:06,679 --> 00:43:08,519
think people ever really did. But
it's something that I don't think we'll see

781
00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:12,800
in a game anytime soon as well, either, because I just don't think

782
00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:14,280
a game that would be like,
oh, we got to make sure this

783
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:17,480
car combat's really yeah, you know. I feel like oftentimes in open world

784
00:43:19,119 --> 00:43:22,880
games like this, cars are pretty
disposable, like I was talking about Watchdogs

785
00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:25,880
recently and in that like, I
don't think you can really upgrade or change

786
00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:29,320
cars anyway, and you can get
a couple extra skills for them, but

787
00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:31,000
for most parts, like you may
just grab a car off the street and

788
00:43:31,079 --> 00:43:34,639
use that for a bit. But
like GTA, obviously, you can customize

789
00:43:34,639 --> 00:43:37,639
your cars pretty significantly. I think
like Crackdown did a really good job of

790
00:43:37,679 --> 00:43:40,960
that, where like driving is one
of the five stats in that game,

791
00:43:42,039 --> 00:43:45,760
and then there's this certain like agent
vehicles, and like if you're driving stat

792
00:43:45,079 --> 00:43:50,760
is like you know, high enough
the cars like transform like transformer styles into

793
00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:52,800
like upgraded versions in real time,
then you get like way more control with

794
00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:55,480
them. So I don't know,
I think in open world games, when

795
00:43:55,519 --> 00:44:00,159
there's like customization to the vehicles and
like meaningful customization, that's when it gets

796
00:44:00,159 --> 00:44:04,239
pretty pretty good. How I wanted
to ask you about that, like,

797
00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:07,599
because so far I feel like car
combat it's like pretty simple. You know,

798
00:44:07,599 --> 00:44:09,719
I'm ramming into people. I have
like the ability to like chisel into

799
00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:12,239
them. I guess, I don't
know what you call that when you hit

800
00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:14,639
them on the side and just keep
kind of keep bustling into them. Oh

801
00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:16,440
yeah, the harpoon. I of
course have the sniper, but you're never

802
00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:21,880
really gonna use the sniper like mid
fight. And so obviously I'm seeing in

803
00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:23,920
the skill trees and whet of like
there's other things. But do you remember

804
00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:28,079
much of how it kind of evolves
or the layers that you found the most

805
00:44:28,079 --> 00:44:31,199
interesting when you get later into the
I guess for me because that's where I'm

806
00:44:31,199 --> 00:44:35,599
streamlining. I feel like the Harpoon
because I've put so much work into it

807
00:44:35,639 --> 00:44:37,119
now again because that's what I do
like, where it's like you just gotta

808
00:44:37,119 --> 00:44:40,239
take down the territory and have the
money, especially when you hit like Harpoon

809
00:44:40,320 --> 00:44:43,760
level. I think I'm on four
or five. It costs a lot of

810
00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:45,480
money to the point where you should
be doing the main mission to get it,

811
00:44:45,519 --> 00:44:49,800
but I'm not wanting to do that. I feel like that's the unfortunate

812
00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:52,800
part where the vehicles just get tougher, and maybe it's something where you might

813
00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:54,840
need to pull up more or you
might need to ramp more, but I

814
00:44:54,880 --> 00:45:00,440
don't think there's anything too much more
than that. It just feels like it

815
00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:04,800
gets more action pack and fast paced
with these vehicles are gonna be a lot

816
00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:07,400
harder and it's not I feel like
near the end of the game, when

817
00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:09,320
you start mainlining it, there's not
many vehicles like there are when you're out

818
00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:13,119
on the wasteland, but when you're
doing the main stuff, there's not too

819
00:45:13,159 --> 00:45:15,000
many that you're just gonna be able
to get a good, nice ram and

820
00:45:15,079 --> 00:45:17,440
just explode it right away. It's
like it's stuff that you're gonna do some

821
00:45:17,519 --> 00:45:21,840
damage. But that's what I really
think is they just kind of increase the

822
00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:25,039
difficulty of the cars or the amount
of cars, but only there's too much

823
00:45:25,079 --> 00:45:28,599
more Like obviously you got the shotgun
as well too, we didn't talk about,

824
00:45:28,599 --> 00:45:30,800
which that is always fun when you
get a vehicle that has that the

825
00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:35,360
fire like a fire gasoline and then
that takes them. Yeah, so that's

826
00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:37,960
always nice. So because I don't
really use the shotgun when I'm fighting,

827
00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:43,079
I don't you have a little AMMO
for it at least yes, early levels

828
00:45:43,119 --> 00:45:45,840
of the game, like maybe you're
gonna have two shots in it. Yeah,

829
00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:47,519
it was pretty quick, which I
feel like the first play through I

830
00:45:47,519 --> 00:45:52,039
did this, I'm doing it again. I'll many times accidentally shoot the shotgun.

831
00:45:52,079 --> 00:45:54,679
I don't know why. It just
slips sometimes. But yeah, so

832
00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:59,360
but that's where the shotgun for me, that's a game changer. With the

833
00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:01,360
vehicles, so I think they just
get harder, maybe some more, but

834
00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:06,199
not not anything massive. I think
it's just expanding upon the things you have

835
00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:12,760
already, right, is there like
trucks or bigger vehicles like to fight or

836
00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:15,840
to drive either. I guess I
think, yeah, you do get bigger

837
00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:17,599
vehicles, especially like I think there's
a couple of boss battles where there's some

838
00:46:17,719 --> 00:46:22,119
that are more souped up. I
think with the driving, I don't think

839
00:46:22,159 --> 00:46:24,599
it's any more than like a regular
truck, and you can kind of suit

840
00:46:24,639 --> 00:46:28,480
that up, but I think they
kind of keep to the more faster,

841
00:46:28,679 --> 00:46:31,280
speedy I feel like that would have
been a DLC type things. Possibly,

842
00:46:31,480 --> 00:46:36,920
Yeah, And how about the you
have a dog in this game that you

843
00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:39,000
kind of you find him and then
you lose them and I'm like, I'm

844
00:46:39,039 --> 00:46:42,320
and then you get him again,
and I'm pretty sure he's on the box

845
00:46:42,679 --> 00:46:45,639
art, Like does he do you
get an upgrade where you can put him

846
00:46:45,679 --> 00:46:47,719
in any car or is it just
in chum Buckets car that you can bring

847
00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:52,159
him around with? If there is
an update. I never got that.

848
00:46:52,199 --> 00:46:54,320
There's been so long that I don't
remember that because I remember him not being

849
00:46:54,360 --> 00:46:58,920
a big vital part of the because
I know he helps you with like minefields

850
00:46:59,679 --> 00:47:01,480
and like in theory he was once
for me, but like I could not

851
00:47:01,960 --> 00:47:06,079
understand what he was telling me,
so I just drove into a landmine in

852
00:47:06,119 --> 00:47:08,079
the car blew up. So I
don't know, but I thought it'd be

853
00:47:08,119 --> 00:47:12,960
interesting if that was like added to
I guess it would be more like groundhand

854
00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:15,079
to hand combat. Root he would, Yeah, it would be like a

855
00:47:15,119 --> 00:47:17,480
special attack, like an al your
spirits and you can send the dog.

856
00:47:17,559 --> 00:47:21,679
But yeah, I feel like that
was me probably something that hit the budget

857
00:47:21,679 --> 00:47:22,719
of like, oh, like to
do this, but we can't. So

858
00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:25,440
what are some minor things we do? Oh, the mine phillies in the

859
00:47:25,440 --> 00:47:28,920
car. But I don't think there's
anything I can think of where it's like,

860
00:47:28,920 --> 00:47:30,400
oh, yeah, he can do
attack off the ground from the vehicle.

861
00:47:30,559 --> 00:47:35,719
Nothing that I would recall, gotcha. Yeah, I'm really enjoying the

862
00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:38,000
I mean, any one of these
open world games. I feel like the

863
00:47:38,079 --> 00:47:43,760
highlight open world thing is usually going
to an enemy outpost and taking those down.

864
00:47:43,840 --> 00:47:45,000
Like in Ghost of Sushimi that was
like, you know, one of

865
00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:49,079
the highlights for sure, and I
really like it in this game, as

866
00:47:49,119 --> 00:47:52,079
I mentioned, kind of scouting it
out, finding information. They give you

867
00:47:52,119 --> 00:47:55,280
the binocular, so you're supposed to
go down a hill somewhere and then usually

868
00:47:55,280 --> 00:47:59,199
there's someone yeah, giving you info. But I like that idea of like

869
00:47:59,320 --> 00:48:01,760
kind of going around perimeter using your
sniper, maybe taking out some snipers or

870
00:48:01,760 --> 00:48:05,920
taking out some points of interest,
taking out those explosive barrels to get your

871
00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:07,239
way in, and then you can
like take your car in a little bit

872
00:48:07,280 --> 00:48:10,320
and maybe take out a couple enemies. But then it kind of transitions into

873
00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:15,280
the ground combat and I just feel
like that that flow is really fun so

874
00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:17,519
far. I feel like I've done
a few of those, and I feel

875
00:48:17,519 --> 00:48:21,320
like, no matter what, those
are always gonna be engaging because the level

876
00:48:21,480 --> 00:48:23,800
design of them is pretty interesting,
like they yeah, some of those camps

877
00:48:23,800 --> 00:48:28,440
are really cool. Mm hmm.
Yeah, there's just like because some of

878
00:48:28,480 --> 00:48:30,199
them are basic where you that's why
I like, you never know what you're

879
00:48:30,199 --> 00:48:32,519
gonna get where it could just be
a ground level and that's it. And

880
00:48:32,519 --> 00:48:36,480
then some have like a big I
can't remember the first territory. I think

881
00:48:36,519 --> 00:48:38,679
one of the last ones I did
was like a going out multiple layers and

882
00:48:38,719 --> 00:48:42,559
there was like a big tower and
you had to like swing on everything like

883
00:48:42,760 --> 00:48:46,639
it was a lot and plus two. I like that Maybe this people that

884
00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:50,519
wouldn't like this, but I enjoyed
that. I feel most of the camps

885
00:48:50,519 --> 00:48:52,960
when they have like, oh,
you can find your insignia and all the

886
00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:57,239
things. I feel like they don't
hold your hand. But I also just

887
00:48:57,280 --> 00:49:00,400
personally like that there is a counter
and it kind of you have an idea

888
00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:02,920
of Okay, it's not just like
a percentage or they give you a percentage,

889
00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:06,239
but imagine if you went to every
campus, like you found twenty percent

890
00:49:06,239 --> 00:49:07,480
of the things there. I like
that it's actively like, no, you're

891
00:49:07,519 --> 00:49:10,880
looking for four more of these things. You're looking for one more thing of

892
00:49:10,920 --> 00:49:14,920
this, because I think with this
game, there's already so much that does

893
00:49:14,960 --> 00:49:16,960
help, and then that makes it
that I think I double back. But

894
00:49:17,000 --> 00:49:20,400
I feel like the good thing is
with most of these campsites, even some

895
00:49:20,440 --> 00:49:22,599
of the main mission stuff, it's
never too huge where I feel like,

896
00:49:22,679 --> 00:49:25,559
oh, if I miss something here, it's gonna I'm gonna have to go

897
00:49:25,679 --> 00:49:29,920
replayers start all the way over.
It's like there's usually like a ladder or

898
00:49:29,960 --> 00:49:32,519
some other maybe way to get back. So I appreciate kind of maybe it's

899
00:49:32,519 --> 00:49:36,719
a little hand holding to get you
those all the collectibles, but I like

900
00:49:36,760 --> 00:49:40,079
that because it gets gets you a
little more gears and whatever nuts and bolts,

901
00:49:40,119 --> 00:49:43,960
So I appreciate it I mean,
I think it's it's good to have,

902
00:49:44,079 --> 00:49:47,440
especially in a game like this that
is very minimal and like the color

903
00:49:47,480 --> 00:49:52,480
palette and so things can kind of
blend in with each other, not like

904
00:49:52,639 --> 00:49:55,280
usually the scrap like is glowing and
the insignias are red and all. But

905
00:49:55,360 --> 00:49:59,599
even just in the environments, it's
like maybe not obvious where a room or

906
00:49:59,639 --> 00:50:01,719
a door is, so it can
be hard to find some of that stuff.

907
00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:06,440
But yeah, working well for me. Do you what do you think

908
00:50:06,440 --> 00:50:08,039
of like the story and characters,
like, how does it kind of stack

909
00:50:08,159 --> 00:50:12,679
up to your I don't know,
just general Mad Max knowledge, or do

910
00:50:12,760 --> 00:50:16,079
you remember much about the main I
remember the day, I remember enjoying quite

911
00:50:16,119 --> 00:50:20,159
a bit. I feel like it's
the usual mascots in some trouble, there's

912
00:50:20,199 --> 00:50:23,639
some more alerts. I think it's
definitely more in the Elk of Furiosa and

913
00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:27,480
Fear Road, just because it is
made around that time. So even like

914
00:50:27,519 --> 00:50:30,239
the characters like the war Boys and
stuff like that, those those aren't like

915
00:50:30,559 --> 00:50:36,480
constant in the Mad Max franchises.
You know, It's not like the war

916
00:50:36,519 --> 00:50:38,119
Boys aren't always coming back. It's
usually new film, which is funny because

917
00:50:38,480 --> 00:50:43,119
in the movies he has a little
boy, but then in this game he

918
00:50:43,199 --> 00:50:45,079
loses a little girl, so it's
strange, like they even changed some stuff

919
00:50:45,079 --> 00:50:47,320
there, so it's like semi connect
to the movie. So might not,

920
00:50:47,400 --> 00:50:51,039
but no, I think there's some
good high jinks, like even the first

921
00:50:51,039 --> 00:50:52,880
boss you fight here, he's a
big war lower that has like a big

922
00:50:53,079 --> 00:50:57,760
I think he might be funny enough. I think he has the name of

923
00:50:57,760 --> 00:51:00,800
one of the characters we were talking
about, like what happened Stuman Furio,

924
00:51:00,880 --> 00:51:02,719
So I think it was like Scrotus
or something you fight. But no,

925
00:51:02,800 --> 00:51:06,400
I think for the most part there's
a fun little twist and turns. But

926
00:51:06,440 --> 00:51:12,559
I think it's like a good nothing
or shattering, but everything feels right within

927
00:51:12,599 --> 00:51:15,239
the world. And yeah, like
Max isn't going a big journey, but

928
00:51:15,280 --> 00:51:20,679
I feel like there's a few different
spots as far as feeling somewhat variety because

929
00:51:20,679 --> 00:51:22,320
it is tough. You're in a
desert, right, but just certain missions

930
00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:27,280
or characters. So and I think
what could have been annoying as Chum Bucket,

931
00:51:27,320 --> 00:51:30,840
but I think he actually ends up
being an enjoyable character because I remember

932
00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:34,440
the first time gating the game night. How many times do you have the

933
00:51:34,480 --> 00:51:37,360
annoying sidekick that you don't care about, but they almost make them so pathetic

934
00:51:37,400 --> 00:51:40,480
and annoying. It's almost like the
gall of effect. So I think between

935
00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:44,840
upgrading the car, that character and
a little people mean along the way,

936
00:51:44,880 --> 00:51:47,159
I think the story is solid because
it was one that completed years ago,

937
00:51:47,360 --> 00:51:51,440
so I think it's a good time. Yeah, I mean I have way

938
00:51:51,519 --> 00:51:55,639
less knowledge or history with these movies
seem Furio and Furiosa of course, but

939
00:51:55,840 --> 00:52:00,360
only one time each. But yeah, like everything seems consistent and like the

940
00:52:00,599 --> 00:52:04,639
on terms of the world building side
of it, I'm I'm buying into it.

941
00:52:04,639 --> 00:52:07,239
And I do love chum Bucket.
I think he's a break so yeah,

942
00:52:07,320 --> 00:52:12,800
and I have really like two he's
obviously on the car with you at

943
00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:16,840
all times, because yeah, I
think that's one thing that as we talked

944
00:52:16,840 --> 00:52:20,639
about with like other open world games, cars end up being disposable and so

945
00:52:20,639 --> 00:52:24,079
they kind of like the car itself
usually didn't have personality, like games with

946
00:52:24,280 --> 00:52:29,440
a horse as a companion, as
like the Motive Travel have more personality like

947
00:52:29,800 --> 00:52:34,280
I love Torrent in elden Ring or
the horse in Ghost of Sushimi is awesome.

948
00:52:34,679 --> 00:52:37,239
Even like Shadow of Classes, you
get like really attached to these characters

949
00:52:37,280 --> 00:52:40,239
as like an extension of you.
And I feel like that is kind of

950
00:52:40,239 --> 00:52:44,519
happening in this game because Chump buckets
there with you, and as soon as

951
00:52:44,519 --> 00:52:47,280
you hop out, he like starts
repairing it. He's giving all these things

952
00:52:47,400 --> 00:52:51,000
names, the cars have names,
You're getting to pick even the body of

953
00:52:51,000 --> 00:52:52,639
it, so you're feeling more ownership
over it. And so I think that

954
00:52:52,719 --> 00:52:57,000
really works to it. But yeah, do you ever get like more people

955
00:52:57,079 --> 00:53:00,239
or switch people out into your car? Is there like a roster? I

956
00:53:00,320 --> 00:53:02,039
remember they just chum bucket with you. I think it's just chum Bucket.

957
00:53:02,159 --> 00:53:06,000
Yeah, I don't recall anybody.
If it was, maybe it's for like

958
00:53:06,079 --> 00:53:08,280
a sole mission, but no,
I think chum buckets with you majority of

959
00:53:08,280 --> 00:53:12,320
the time. That also that guys
will jump onto your car. Yes,

960
00:53:12,400 --> 00:53:15,320
too, like they'll ditch their own
car just to if they feel like maybe

961
00:53:15,360 --> 00:53:19,039
they can't keep up with you,
that's their next best effort. And another

962
00:53:19,079 --> 00:53:21,440
thing that I really like too,
that keeps the momentum of the game.

963
00:53:21,440 --> 00:53:22,960
Again, some people might view it
as like almost a cheap but I like

964
00:53:23,039 --> 00:53:27,719
that when you exit your vehicle and
if it's damaged, Chum buckles chum buckets

965
00:53:27,719 --> 00:53:30,599
working on it because, like you
said, there's alreadys so much stuff you

966
00:53:30,639 --> 00:53:32,679
have to go on with finding gears
and gas. I like that gas is

967
00:53:32,719 --> 00:53:35,840
the thing that, hey, if
you run onto this, you're kind of

968
00:53:35,880 --> 00:53:38,079
script pretty generous with that, and
they are right, but at least that's

969
00:53:38,079 --> 00:53:42,159
the thing you need to get,
which all the movies are usually about fuel,

970
00:53:42,440 --> 00:53:45,079
So I like that. I just
there's a version of this game where

971
00:53:45,079 --> 00:53:49,280
they make it almost more punishing of
your vehicle getting damaged, and I think

972
00:53:49,320 --> 00:53:52,599
that would kill that cycle of imagine
if anytime your vehicle got like down to

973
00:53:52,719 --> 00:53:55,480
zero, it's like, well,
you gotta go walk from miles and find

974
00:53:55,519 --> 00:53:59,199
another one. It's like, oh, boy, like is this something I

975
00:53:59,440 --> 00:54:01,039
really want to dude? No,
And that's where I think it's fun that,

976
00:54:01,119 --> 00:54:05,679
Okay, if your vehicle gets destroyed, you gotta get out. Maybe

977
00:54:05,679 --> 00:54:07,480
you gotta wait five minutes, but
there's stuff to do, and most of

978
00:54:07,480 --> 00:54:09,800
the time for me when it gets
destroyed, I'm in the middle of the

979
00:54:09,880 --> 00:54:13,679
fight, so by and it does. Like. The good thing is it's

980
00:54:13,719 --> 00:54:15,280
not that chump bucket has to get
it all the way to the top.

981
00:54:15,320 --> 00:54:17,840
It's usually just to get it back
past like the fire and the green,

982
00:54:17,960 --> 00:54:21,679
and then if it's like twenty five
percent, you can get in there and

983
00:54:21,719 --> 00:54:23,119
maybe you get away from the fight, or maybe if that vehicle's just like

984
00:54:23,440 --> 00:54:25,719
a few more hits so you can
feel like, oh, I could sacrifice

985
00:54:25,719 --> 00:54:28,960
this. So that's just like it's
a simple one. But I think that

986
00:54:29,119 --> 00:54:30,440
was smart to do, even if
it would have been like, oh,

987
00:54:30,480 --> 00:54:34,599
you have to destroy other vehicles to
get your vehicle back. I just think

988
00:54:35,079 --> 00:54:37,800
for time wise as well. I
really like that mechanic because the first time

989
00:54:37,840 --> 00:54:40,719
I forgot about that when it broke, like, oh no, what's gonna

990
00:54:40,719 --> 00:54:44,679
happen here? And again because it
does have a sense of ownership because imagine

991
00:54:44,679 --> 00:54:46,599
too, if that was if your
car breaks, you gotta get a new

992
00:54:46,639 --> 00:54:50,840
one, you would just they would
feel like interchangeable. Even if you could

993
00:54:50,880 --> 00:54:52,480
go back to your shop and put
all those same parts in there. I

994
00:54:52,480 --> 00:54:57,880
feel like you said, you would
just lose that like specialness that you had,

995
00:54:57,880 --> 00:55:00,280
that connection you have through the vehicle. So a little time, but

996
00:55:00,599 --> 00:55:04,679
I liked it. It seems it
seems like when you because you can,

997
00:55:04,920 --> 00:55:06,880
like any car you find in the
world, you can take it, bring

998
00:55:06,920 --> 00:55:09,360
it back to your garage, add
it to your library, so to speak.

999
00:55:09,559 --> 00:55:13,360
That's the very crackdown thing as well, which I really like. Okay,

1000
00:55:13,639 --> 00:55:15,519
but it seems like once you've done
that, like any upgrade that you've

1001
00:55:15,519 --> 00:55:20,039
done on your I guess any other
vehicle, you can do for free on

1002
00:55:20,119 --> 00:55:22,440
this new car as well. So
I think that's a nice touch as well.

1003
00:55:22,440 --> 00:55:25,280
You don't have to kind of grind
pay because sometimes you pick up one

1004
00:55:25,280 --> 00:55:28,559
of these cars and I don't even
have a freaking boost on it, so

1005
00:55:28,559 --> 00:55:30,639
it's like, I'm not going to
start for very much and like spend all

1006
00:55:30,679 --> 00:55:32,360
this money to get all this boost
going. So then chum Bucket's like,

1007
00:55:32,400 --> 00:55:36,199
this vehicle is amazing. So you're
like it must be. Were some parts

1008
00:55:36,320 --> 00:55:38,159
right, but it has no movie. Maybe I have some cool new weapons

1009
00:55:38,199 --> 00:55:40,440
on it that I want to use, but yeah, if it doesn't have

1010
00:55:40,480 --> 00:55:44,119
boost, it's it's no good.
Yeah, it sucks. They did this

1011
00:55:44,159 --> 00:55:46,239
whole camp and that was one of
those where he said they're like, oh

1012
00:55:46,239 --> 00:55:47,880
this is great, you got to
bring it back, but it was in

1013
00:55:47,880 --> 00:55:51,960
the middle of the main mission that
didn't complete, and it's one where I

1014
00:55:52,000 --> 00:55:53,360
had to open up the garage,
So it sucked. I had the spain

1015
00:55:53,440 --> 00:55:57,039
one. I just I just lost
a school vehicle. I found it and

1016
00:55:57,280 --> 00:56:00,159
strip for any parts. So that
was that was my bad. Like,

1017
00:56:00,159 --> 00:56:02,440
okay, I better go open up
this garage. So I did. Yeah,

1018
00:56:02,639 --> 00:56:06,679
good call. Yeah that was actually
that was something I found kind of

1019
00:56:06,719 --> 00:56:09,480
funny when you're taking out of camp, Like the final step of dishrining camp

1020
00:56:09,559 --> 00:56:14,800
is to like blow up the water
filtration system. But then it's like,

1021
00:56:14,840 --> 00:56:17,719
oh, your allies have moved into
this camp and like could we not have

1022
00:56:19,000 --> 00:56:23,639
you know, saved the uh water
filtration system and maybe just up there like

1023
00:56:23,639 --> 00:56:27,039
like am I gonna have to rebuild
this? And so far I haven't really

1024
00:56:27,119 --> 00:56:30,280
actually gone back to those camps,
and I don't know if you upgrade,

1025
00:56:30,360 --> 00:56:31,840
do you up can you upgrade like
any camp or would it just be like

1026
00:56:32,159 --> 00:56:35,679
I don't think it's a name and
you go to like that one fortress up

1027
00:56:35,719 --> 00:56:37,679
on the hill like that in the
first area and that was your first home

1028
00:56:37,679 --> 00:56:42,119
base, right. I think some
of them just become it's a safe haven

1029
00:56:42,199 --> 00:56:45,840
place and that's about it. Maybe
there might be some water get like yeah,

1030
00:56:46,039 --> 00:56:49,760
but nothing where I think every camp
is as big as that, so

1031
00:56:50,239 --> 00:56:52,199
mm hmm, yeah, yeah,
no, I I love this game.

1032
00:56:52,239 --> 00:56:55,119
I think it's a really good time. Definitely recommended. I think it it

1033
00:56:55,159 --> 00:56:59,519
holds up really well, like it
it plays like the just the second and

1034
00:56:59,559 --> 00:57:01,880
second game play is really really good. So I like, anyone looking for

1035
00:57:02,280 --> 00:57:07,079
like a Mad Max kick off furiosa
here should go go pick this up.

1036
00:57:07,599 --> 00:57:10,360
Think it's on switch, but yeah
on Xbox and PlayStation PC, I'm sure.

1037
00:57:10,480 --> 00:57:15,840
So a good time all around nice. Any other thoughts on that where

1038
00:57:15,920 --> 00:57:17,239
you want to move on? Yeah, no, I'm ready to move on.

1039
00:57:17,280 --> 00:57:21,119
Like I said, I was happy
to scratch it and it's a fun

1040
00:57:21,159 --> 00:57:22,760
game. So again, yeah,
if anyone even thought about it that missed

1041
00:57:22,800 --> 00:57:27,599
it lot, Mostly everywhere this game
is like five ten bucks, it's worth

1042
00:57:27,679 --> 00:57:30,039
seven. Taylor was thinking about picking
up, like all you should do it

1043
00:57:30,039 --> 00:57:31,960
because it's I think that thing where
it's like, even if you play it

1044
00:57:31,960 --> 00:57:36,000
for a little bit, it's even
worth that amount of money, not saying

1045
00:57:36,000 --> 00:57:38,280
you have to complete or anything,
because there's hundreds of games nowadays, dozens

1046
00:57:38,320 --> 00:57:40,679
every month where it's like, oh
I want to play that, but it's

1047
00:57:40,719 --> 00:57:45,960
a if I do at least feel
they have is that other games do.

1048
00:57:45,119 --> 00:57:47,360
But there is a uniqueness to it. That. Like I said, I

1049
00:57:47,639 --> 00:57:52,440
would compare it to that Lord of
the Rings and Enemy you know whatever they

1050
00:57:52,519 --> 00:57:54,440
call it? Is it Enemy System? I thought there was a different name

1051
00:57:55,239 --> 00:57:59,280
for Snificis. I think, yeah, it's like that. Where again,

1052
00:57:59,400 --> 00:58:01,519
not that it's to that level,
but it's something that this game has that

1053
00:58:01,719 --> 00:58:05,599
others don't. So yeah, yeah, I know it's the kind of game

1054
00:58:05,639 --> 00:58:07,840
that's just gonna sit on the hard
drive for months and months or maybe even

1055
00:58:07,960 --> 00:58:12,360
years, and just like you know, Friday nights late, I just want

1056
00:58:12,400 --> 00:58:15,559
to drop this on and play for
a couple hours kind of thing. So

1057
00:58:15,679 --> 00:58:19,599
I'm excited to do that. Cool. How about uh? I want to

1058
00:58:19,639 --> 00:58:23,159
talk about another talk about Shadow Shadow
of the Urge here earlier. Let's talk

1059
00:58:23,159 --> 00:58:29,159
about another DLC that recently released,
so we talked about at Summer game Fest.

1060
00:58:29,159 --> 00:58:32,159
There was a kind of not out
today but an out tomorrow release for

1061
00:58:32,440 --> 00:58:37,599
Allen Wake two Night Springs, which
is a three episode DLC expansion for Allen

1062
00:58:37,679 --> 00:58:43,519
Wake two. I have, hmmm, where do I want to start with

1063
00:58:43,519 --> 00:58:45,920
this. I'll say that I played
through about half of it, so like

1064
00:58:45,960 --> 00:58:52,039
an episode and a half, and
then I uninstalled the goh no, that's

1065
00:58:52,159 --> 00:58:59,280
not good. Now that really really
did not vibe with what they were doing.

1066
00:59:00,280 --> 00:59:01,760
Do you think any of this would
have helped if you had played because

1067
00:59:01,800 --> 00:59:07,719
I know you'd played Gosh, what's
the game that control control? Yeah,

1068
00:59:07,760 --> 00:59:09,400
so you'd play that, but Quantum
Break, I know he hadn't. Would

1069
00:59:09,400 --> 00:59:13,079
that have helped at all? Or
no? I mean, so it's like

1070
00:59:13,119 --> 00:59:15,760
it's the guy from Quantum Break,
but like it's his character from Alan Wake

1071
00:59:15,840 --> 00:59:19,039
too, so it's like I know
kind of who he is, and like,

1072
00:59:19,159 --> 00:59:21,800
yeah, I played enough of Control. That's not necessarily what it is.

1073
00:59:21,800 --> 00:59:23,719
So yeah, for anyone who forgets
Night Springs is kind of it's very

1074
00:59:23,800 --> 00:59:28,320
much like a Twilight Zone type of
thing, where it's these almost what if

1075
00:59:28,440 --> 00:59:34,280
scenarios, fantasy scenarios within the world
of Allen Wake. There's two elements of

1076
00:59:34,280 --> 00:59:38,559
it that are pretty disappointing to me. One is that there, at least

1077
00:59:38,639 --> 00:59:43,880
through the episode and a half that
I got through, there's no new locations,

1078
00:59:43,960 --> 00:59:46,760
Like there might be a new color
filter over an area you played through

1079
00:59:46,760 --> 00:59:50,719
before, but it's like the same
areas that you've been to before, but

1080
00:59:50,800 --> 00:59:53,079
now there's just like new content there
and you're playing like a new character as

1081
00:59:53,119 --> 00:59:58,639
you go through here. But the
main thing is, like, through these

1082
00:59:58,679 --> 01:00:02,519
two episodes, it's pretty much like
combat trials essentially, it's just that doing

1083
01:00:02,719 --> 01:00:07,480
fighting, which is the thing I
liked the least of Allen Wake Too.

1084
01:00:07,480 --> 01:00:08,800
It got to a port where I
just put the game on the easiest difficulty

1085
01:00:08,800 --> 01:00:12,199
because I'm like, I don't want
to engage with this combat. It sucks,

1086
01:00:12,239 --> 01:00:14,880
it's boring, it's not fun,
it's janky, and I just want

1087
01:00:14,920 --> 01:00:16,400
to get through them and then I
can get back to the exploration, the

1088
01:00:16,440 --> 01:00:21,599
detective work, the finding cool areas, the trippy stuff. That's what I

1089
01:00:21,639 --> 01:00:23,400
want to be there for. The
combat is not it. And so the

1090
01:00:23,440 --> 01:00:27,920
fact that that's kind of what this
delC is is that's why I'm inzaw because

1091
01:00:27,960 --> 01:00:30,119
like I just I don't care,
Like I am deep enough of a remedy

1092
01:00:30,159 --> 01:00:36,840
head to need to see this level
of like interesting what if scenario. It's

1093
01:00:36,920 --> 01:00:38,440
like the gameplay and it's not even
that long, but it's just that's how

1094
01:00:38,559 --> 01:00:42,480
little interest I had in doing the
rest of this. And it was,

1095
01:00:42,559 --> 01:00:44,880
yeah, one fight that I died
through or three times, because it's just

1096
01:00:44,880 --> 01:00:49,360
one hundred enemies and like you're giving
like a million, you know, a

1097
01:00:49,440 --> 01:00:52,440
million rounds you have like infinite ammo. It's not really meant to be like

1098
01:00:52,440 --> 01:00:55,119
a survival horror thing more just like
combat challenges. And yeah, it's just

1099
01:00:55,800 --> 01:01:00,199
absolutely not what I wanted. So
ultimately, I think I'm just not the

1100
01:01:00,239 --> 01:01:01,400
audience for this. But I was
like, yeah, I liked Alan Wake

1101
01:01:01,400 --> 01:01:05,559
two. This seems like fun.
What if scenarios I'd like even if they're

1102
01:01:05,559 --> 01:01:07,679
an hour long cool. I'd love
to do like a little hour long mystery

1103
01:01:07,719 --> 01:01:10,960
with some crazy like character that you
don't know get to play as. But

1104
01:01:12,000 --> 01:01:15,519
that's not really what it is.
And like from a story perspective, maybe

1105
01:01:15,559 --> 01:01:20,039
there's something that ties it together at
the end, but I didn't really care

1106
01:01:20,159 --> 01:01:22,320
much for the story in the first
one or even what I was doing in

1107
01:01:22,360 --> 01:01:24,880
the second one. There wasn't really
much to it. It was pretty simple.

1108
01:01:24,960 --> 01:01:29,000
Even if there's like you know,
voice acting, new new cut scenes

1109
01:01:29,039 --> 01:01:32,239
and whatnot, it just just was
not for me. So I don't know

1110
01:01:32,280 --> 01:01:36,880
what the recommendation here is. I
guess just like if you're deep into Remedy

1111
01:01:36,920 --> 01:01:38,719
and you need to see everything they
do, obviously you're not gonna wait for

1112
01:01:38,760 --> 01:01:42,800
my recommendation. But if I guess
if you played Alan Wake two and you

1113
01:01:42,800 --> 01:01:46,480
didn't like the combat, don't buy
this. It's not gonna be worth your

1114
01:01:46,480 --> 01:01:49,840
time. It's like, I don't
need more of it. I got in,

1115
01:01:50,079 --> 01:01:52,199
you know, just the right amount, I guess in the main game,

1116
01:01:52,199 --> 01:01:55,239
playing on easy mode and just really
engaging with it. So I think,

1117
01:01:55,760 --> 01:01:59,119
yeah, you should still buy this
game, Travis Alan, Wake two,

1118
01:01:59,559 --> 01:02:01,079
you don't pick up you don't need
to pick up Night Springs. Just

1119
01:02:01,119 --> 01:02:05,239
pick up the Bass game and play
through that and then maybe the second deal

1120
01:02:05,320 --> 01:02:07,599
seapack will be something different. But
on that one, I'm definitely gonna wait

1121
01:02:07,880 --> 01:02:10,920
for impressions. But they are doing
a second deal s pack. Yeah,

1122
01:02:10,920 --> 01:02:15,039
they announced two sections. The other
one's called lake House, I think is

1123
01:02:15,079 --> 01:02:17,119
the second one, and so I
don't know if that's supposed to be more

1124
01:02:17,159 --> 01:02:22,480
of like a story expansion. They've
really talked about it yet other than just

1125
01:02:22,480 --> 01:02:24,519
like the name of it, unless
I've missed something. I just wonder because

1126
01:02:24,559 --> 01:02:29,519
I remember last when I we did
the review that I was saying that I

1127
01:02:29,519 --> 01:02:32,199
was probably gonna buy it in October. When they're doing that whole that physical

1128
01:02:32,280 --> 01:02:37,559
collection of Wake one two in this
delC, I'm wondering if that's gonna be

1129
01:02:37,760 --> 01:02:40,519
I would imagine maybe on there,
I would hope, because then you kind

1130
01:02:40,559 --> 01:02:43,840
of get the whole. Yeah.
I mean, if you're getting the deal

1131
01:02:43,880 --> 01:02:45,800
of one and two, I guess, and it's I presume it's the remaster

1132
01:02:45,960 --> 01:02:50,400
of one, I believe, so
yeah, so I mean that's probably worth

1133
01:02:50,400 --> 01:02:52,880
it. If it's like eighty bucks, that's probably worth it. I think

1134
01:02:52,880 --> 01:02:55,400
it is. It's for all,
it's like a kind of a game add

1135
01:02:55,440 --> 01:02:59,039
on, but you don't yeah,
yeah, so, And I mean maybe

1136
01:02:59,079 --> 01:03:00,480
you'd like the combat and for you, maybe you'd want to go for these

1137
01:03:00,519 --> 01:03:04,920
extra combat challenges or maybe even just
like because you can pick any of the

1138
01:03:04,920 --> 01:03:07,639
episodes, you don't have to go. You don't have to finish one to

1139
01:03:07,639 --> 01:03:09,440
get to two. So if you're
a control head and you just want to

1140
01:03:09,440 --> 01:03:13,320
play as Jesse some more in this
mission, you could just jump straight to

1141
01:03:13,360 --> 01:03:16,559
that and do nothing else. But
I will. I wish I had maybe

1142
01:03:16,800 --> 01:03:22,639
waited and listened to like reviews or
something, but I just impulse bought it

1143
01:03:22,639 --> 01:03:23,519
because I'm like, hell, yeah, I want some more of this.

1144
01:03:23,599 --> 01:03:28,159
But that's what I was saying with
Shadow of the Ur Tree, like it

1145
01:03:28,239 --> 01:03:31,400
is rare for single player games like
this, for me to even care enough

1146
01:03:31,440 --> 01:03:35,719
about the DLC to want to buy
it and play it. Yeah, but

1147
01:03:35,840 --> 01:03:37,960
even rare for me to actually like
it. And this is a case where

1148
01:03:38,199 --> 01:03:42,960
yeah, it's that fifty to fifty
once again, Eldering, it's great,

1149
01:03:43,360 --> 01:03:46,519
Alan Wake two not like it not
worth worth my time and thank for this

1150
01:03:46,599 --> 01:03:50,320
is like fairly cheap, I think. So I don't feel like I've lost

1151
01:03:50,360 --> 01:03:52,880
it a lot. I think the
second DEALC is like a separate purchase.

1152
01:03:52,920 --> 01:03:55,679
I don't think I bought all of
it, but I could be wrong.

1153
01:03:55,760 --> 01:04:00,840
I'm clearly not super knowledgeable on this
stuff. No, thank you. I

1154
01:04:00,920 --> 01:04:04,920
just added control to my backlog list
there, because that's another one. Have

1155
01:04:04,960 --> 01:04:08,519
you have you started? Because when
I saw your account, you hadn't really

1156
01:04:08,519 --> 01:04:12,159
done anything yet. Yeah, I
I So I have my two lists right

1157
01:04:12,199 --> 01:04:15,719
now. It's your name is TBS
one right, yeah, just one on

1158
01:04:15,719 --> 01:04:17,440
one Yeah, yeah, so I
just have my games I'm waiting for.

1159
01:04:17,519 --> 01:04:20,000
So those are just games that I
just don't want to forget about. That's

1160
01:04:20,199 --> 01:04:23,239
listed as prior and now I got
to change it the public right now,

1161
01:04:23,400 --> 01:04:25,960
just replacing Killer being the whole.
Maybe that's why, yeah, change the

1162
01:04:25,960 --> 01:04:29,360
public. I want to see what
you're doing on here and anyone who is

1163
01:04:29,519 --> 01:04:31,719
on backlog. I know Clay made
a backloged account. I guess Pubs did

1164
01:04:31,760 --> 01:04:35,239
to make sure you had Travis on
there. It's very website my games to

1165
01:04:35,360 --> 01:04:39,679
finish and or play I have going
on. And that's like a mix of

1166
01:04:39,719 --> 01:04:44,320
either games like ELDM Ring that I
want to finish or games that I like.

1167
01:04:44,400 --> 01:04:46,039
Another one in Shadow War, I
never beat that sequel Lord of the

1168
01:04:46,079 --> 01:04:50,880
Rings game. And then there's games
like Downweight games, Ragnarock Control Now and

1169
01:04:50,920 --> 01:04:55,079
then Balder's Gates. That's where it's
like. So it's a mix of games

1170
01:04:55,079 --> 01:04:59,280
that I kind of know and I
have them in right now order of plan

1171
01:05:00,039 --> 01:05:01,000
way through. I think I gotta
change a couple of them, but right

1172
01:05:01,000 --> 01:05:04,280
now the plan is el and Ring
and then now like I guess Star Wars

1173
01:05:04,320 --> 01:05:08,719
will be there. But it's like
I I'll remember that one because Taylor will

1174
01:05:08,960 --> 01:05:12,159
Taylor bug me about it, and
right now I'll make it public eventsgry.

1175
01:05:12,199 --> 01:05:15,519
But I just got replaced in Killer
Bean because and I should have added it

1176
01:05:15,599 --> 01:05:18,039
there. I guess I forgot to
save. Is I finally I've been told

1177
01:05:18,119 --> 01:05:21,000
most game for years and I think
they said it sold or did like fifty

1178
01:05:21,079 --> 01:05:25,760
units, fifty units in Xbox.
I finally want to play Hypercharge, and

1179
01:05:25,800 --> 01:05:28,320
I think I want to get that
for the stream as well, because I've

1180
01:05:28,320 --> 01:05:30,159
had that, like because for I
think for like the first year or so

1181
01:05:30,400 --> 01:05:32,599
or even year and a half,
it was just on PC's I didn't get

1182
01:05:32,679 --> 01:05:35,159
round to and that I remember when
to switch, and now it's on Xbox.

1183
01:05:35,199 --> 01:05:39,159
But this game is like again what
happens is every couple of years,

1184
01:05:39,159 --> 01:05:41,360
this thing trends. Was like,
this game is fucking awesome, Like look

1185
01:05:41,400 --> 01:05:42,960
at it, so cool and it's
like everything. I'm like, yeah,

1186
01:05:43,000 --> 01:05:45,480
it does look cool, Like that
looks right in my alley. So I

1187
01:05:45,519 --> 01:05:47,880
think I'm gonna get that, and
I probably I'm gonna motivate myself by having

1188
01:05:47,880 --> 01:05:50,719
it for the stream and doing some
stuff on because I feel like it's a

1189
01:05:50,719 --> 01:05:53,800
game. We can have some fun
with it. But I don't know how

1190
01:05:53,960 --> 01:05:56,800
it's played, but that's been a
game. I think it's having twentys and

1191
01:05:56,840 --> 01:05:59,159
I played for a few hours and
it's you know, a good time.

1192
01:05:59,360 --> 01:06:02,400
Yeah, it's just you know,
yeah, for anyone who doesn't remember hyper

1193
01:06:02,480 --> 01:06:05,800
Charge unboxed, that's the game where
you kind of play as action figures,

1194
01:06:05,800 --> 01:06:12,119
so you're kind of small characters in
a regular sized world toy stores. Yeah,

1195
01:06:12,199 --> 01:06:15,239
and it's like my love of toy
story and also I loved Army Men

1196
01:06:15,280 --> 01:06:19,599
back and then Nintendo. I'm me
and every day are waiting for a remaster

1197
01:06:19,800 --> 01:06:23,960
remake of Armyment. I think we've
talked about you've never played Army Man right

1198
01:06:24,000 --> 01:06:27,440
where you were see a couple of
copies of that this weekend. Oh yeah,

1199
01:06:27,719 --> 01:06:30,800
you're playing as if you didn't know, you play as toy soldier.

1200
01:06:30,920 --> 01:06:32,360
I think I have one or two
of those games on my backlog list.

1201
01:06:32,719 --> 01:06:35,039
Oh it's good. I want to
check them out at some point, but

1202
01:06:35,079 --> 01:06:38,800
I don't even know the platforms and
one Yeah, and there's missions like you're

1203
01:06:38,840 --> 01:06:42,400
in your mom's kid and like the
alm and you die. Like it's it's

1204
01:06:42,679 --> 01:06:45,360
very similar Toy Store where it feels
like the kids are playing it, but

1205
01:06:45,440 --> 01:06:49,400
you are the soldier in the story
and you're the green And multiplayer was great

1206
01:06:49,440 --> 01:06:51,440
too, because that's when like,
oh, you could play as the blue

1207
01:06:51,440 --> 01:06:54,880
one. So but yeah, that's
that's rare. But yeah, that'll be

1208
01:06:54,920 --> 01:06:57,760
interesting. I'll have to wait and
see the combat because seeing that almost sounds

1209
01:06:57,760 --> 01:07:00,800
like if you were to tell me, oh, hey, uh Hell has

1210
01:07:00,840 --> 01:07:03,000
some DLC, but it's mostly just
combat for me, as I've always thought

1211
01:07:03,000 --> 01:07:05,519
it was my my biggest critique of
that game, I go, well,

1212
01:07:05,559 --> 01:07:09,079
that's not something I would dive into, right, Like, so that's where

1213
01:07:09,119 --> 01:07:12,440
I'll have to wait and play it, because the same thing I whenever I

1214
01:07:12,480 --> 01:07:15,079
my intention of playing on Wake is
not the oh I want to play like

1215
01:07:15,280 --> 01:07:18,119
combat fighting. You know, that's
not what anything they have seen, like,

1216
01:07:18,119 --> 01:07:20,679
oh I hope it has this,
you know, so yeah, like

1217
01:07:20,760 --> 01:07:25,440
I I I you know, I'm
coming there for the detective war for the

1218
01:07:25,559 --> 01:07:27,840
horror stuff, and it just seemed
a bit one note, like that was

1219
01:07:27,840 --> 01:07:32,039
something where God of War Ragnarok had
that Valhalla DLC which was like a roguelike

1220
01:07:32,079 --> 01:07:35,079
mode and there was story elements to
it, but it was like advertising,

1221
01:07:35,239 --> 01:07:39,960
this is like roguelike where you're doing
combat challenges and stuff, and that was

1222
01:07:40,280 --> 01:07:42,960
great marketing for me. It's like
it didn't I didn't buy it, even

1223
01:07:42,960 --> 01:07:45,719
though I loved the game, but
it was like it told me exactly what

1224
01:07:45,760 --> 01:07:47,440
it was, and so I don't
know, maybe I'm just dumb and didn't

1225
01:07:47,480 --> 01:07:50,599
do my research, but I kind
of felt like, that's not really how

1226
01:07:50,599 --> 01:07:55,119
they advertised this night spring Steam.
But it didn't look like that either.

1227
01:07:55,159 --> 01:07:57,639
I think it was more head trippy, and so I think they focused more

1228
01:07:57,679 --> 01:08:02,320
on like the characters and like the
setting rather than what the actual gameplay of

1229
01:08:02,360 --> 01:08:05,519
it is. But it is so
short anyway that yeah, I don't know,

1230
01:08:05,559 --> 01:08:10,519
it makes sense. Still installed it, though it's that was probably a

1231
01:08:10,559 --> 01:08:13,320
bit hasty. I probably should have
just like cooled down and come back the

1232
01:08:13,360 --> 01:08:15,440
next day. But I was like, you know what, I could use

1233
01:08:15,480 --> 01:08:18,560
the hard drive space right now with
Eldon Ringing and install that again. And

1234
01:08:18,640 --> 01:08:20,640
so you know, I was like, see you later, Alan Wake,

1235
01:08:20,720 --> 01:08:24,560
I'm not not into this. You
know, there's only so much time of

1236
01:08:24,600 --> 01:08:27,640
the day. I don't I don't
have time to play games that I don't

1237
01:08:27,760 --> 01:08:31,159
like. You know, that's not
the way you want to spend the time.

1238
01:08:31,239 --> 01:08:35,319
There's too many games, you know. So let's take one last break

1239
01:08:35,319 --> 01:08:38,880
and then you know, I'll bring
up one more game for the day.

1240
01:08:38,960 --> 01:08:45,239
We'll be right back. Okay,
we are back. Last game I wanted

1241
01:08:45,239 --> 01:08:48,840
to shout out here is a game
called Humanity, which came out last year

1242
01:08:48,960 --> 01:08:53,720
on a PlayStation. It was a
PlayStation exclusive and then you know, after

1243
01:08:53,720 --> 01:08:57,960
that year long exclusivity, it is
now on Xbox via game Pass as well.

1244
01:08:58,000 --> 01:09:01,640
So you're backlogged here popular friends,
and yeah, I'm playing it right

1245
01:09:01,680 --> 01:09:03,840
now. I don't know. I
don't know if you remember this one,

1246
01:09:03,880 --> 01:09:09,199
Travis, but if you don't,
you should definitely do a quick YouTube doing

1247
01:09:09,239 --> 01:09:12,239
that right now, or yeah,
just google image it. But this is

1248
01:09:12,319 --> 01:09:18,600
a puzzle game. There's a three
D puzzle game in which essentially masses of

1249
01:09:18,920 --> 01:09:23,680
people come out of one door and
you got to lead them to another,

1250
01:09:24,039 --> 01:09:28,279
another door, another exit. That's
like the core, you know as the

1251
01:09:28,319 --> 01:09:30,960
core conceit of like the actual puzzle
mechanics of it. So it starts out

1252
01:09:30,960 --> 01:09:34,840
pretty simple. You plays this cute
little dog and you just put arrows down

1253
01:09:34,920 --> 01:09:38,680
essentially, and that will tell the
people to like turn at this corner,

1254
01:09:39,039 --> 01:09:41,560
go around this way, and you
lead them to this gate. So it

1255
01:09:41,600 --> 01:09:44,199
starts out with that. It's pretty
simple. People, it's a lot of

1256
01:09:44,199 --> 01:09:45,680
people. It starts out pretty simple. You know, you're telling them to

1257
01:09:45,680 --> 01:09:48,720
go around this corner. Eventually it's
okay, I got to push this block

1258
01:09:48,760 --> 01:09:50,840
first, and then and then it's
like, oh, there's a conveyor belt.

1259
01:09:51,039 --> 01:09:54,399
And then eventually you're getting like a
jump command, so you can tell

1260
01:09:54,439 --> 01:09:57,960
them to jump at a certain point. But I think there's there's a few

1261
01:09:58,039 --> 01:10:00,039
layers to why I'm loving this game
so much. One one is what you

1262
01:10:00,079 --> 01:10:03,159
just said, all the people this
game is insane. I don't think I've

1263
01:10:03,199 --> 01:10:08,800
ever seen this many characters on screen
in any game in my life. It

1264
01:10:08,800 --> 01:10:13,319
gets to a point where there are
literally thousands, maybe even a million,

1265
01:10:13,640 --> 01:10:17,840
like humans running around. They're so
dirty. It looks like roller coaster Tycoon

1266
01:10:17,920 --> 01:10:20,920
or something where they're just aimlessly walking
through the park. But they're just you

1267
01:10:20,960 --> 01:10:25,119
know, doing exactly what you tell
them to and nothing more, nothing less.

1268
01:10:25,479 --> 01:10:29,920
They have no brain of their own. And yeah, so like that's

1269
01:10:30,000 --> 01:10:32,720
kind of the first Like Also,
one thing I find really interested with this

1270
01:10:32,760 --> 01:10:35,840
game is like I feel like puzzle
games don't really usually have like an act

1271
01:10:36,279 --> 01:10:40,600
structure to this to them, but
this game does kind of have like an

1272
01:10:40,600 --> 01:10:44,279
overarching narrative, and there are like
distinct acts where the first I'd say,

1273
01:10:44,279 --> 01:10:48,359
the first act is really just introducing
all those basic mechanics jumping, turning,

1274
01:10:49,119 --> 01:10:53,960
throwing a couple of hoops that you
you know, puzzles eventually get more difficult

1275
01:10:54,000 --> 01:10:57,640
and then there's added challenging these level
where there's a Goldie who's like a giant

1276
01:10:57,680 --> 01:11:00,000
gold human, and if you lead
the people through the Goldie and bring them

1277
01:11:00,000 --> 01:11:03,399
to the exit, then you get
like bonuses which give you like different costumes

1278
01:11:03,520 --> 01:11:08,960
gonna put on the humans and other
unlocks and things like that. And then

1279
01:11:10,000 --> 01:11:12,600
Travis, I'm guessing you're not gonna
play this game at any point. This

1280
01:11:12,640 --> 01:11:14,800
is not going on your back log
list, is I don't think, Sorry,

1281
01:11:15,119 --> 01:11:16,600
not with what I have, no, but it looks interesting. I

1282
01:11:16,640 --> 01:11:19,560
like to let me spoil a couple
of things then, and for anyone who

1283
01:11:19,600 --> 01:11:23,039
does not want the spoiler. Once
again, this is on game pass.

1284
01:11:23,159 --> 01:11:25,920
I don't know if it was on
PS plus or is I don't know how

1285
01:11:26,000 --> 01:11:28,479
much it is, but I love
this game. If you like puzzle games,

1286
01:11:28,520 --> 01:11:30,399
I highly recommend it. So there's
my you know, if you don't

1287
01:11:30,439 --> 01:11:34,479
want to hear the spoilers, there's
my partying gift to you. But getting

1288
01:11:34,520 --> 01:11:39,439
to the spoilers in acts too,
it gets even crazier where eventually there are

1289
01:11:39,560 --> 01:11:43,439
others that are introduced, and others
are different people that you do not control,

1290
01:11:44,239 --> 01:11:46,079
but they are a potent there.
Yeah, they're they all position to

1291
01:11:46,119 --> 01:11:49,079
you, and so they will get
in your way, they'll push blocks out

1292
01:11:49,119 --> 01:11:55,159
of the way, and then eventually
the others get like fucking lightsabers and like

1293
01:11:55,239 --> 01:11:58,880
laser pistols, and they'll start like
gunning you down and killing you. So

1294
01:11:58,920 --> 01:12:01,760
your people are vulnerable to getting killed, and so you have to lead.

1295
01:12:01,840 --> 01:12:04,640
And it starts out fairly simple.
You have to like you know, hide

1296
01:12:04,680 --> 01:12:08,600
behind walls or like push blocks in
the way so they can't hit you,

1297
01:12:08,920 --> 01:12:12,239
so that way you can get to
the exit. But then Travis, it

1298
01:12:12,319 --> 01:12:15,479
gets more and more crazy, where
you eventually get a command just called gun

1299
01:12:15,840 --> 01:12:19,239
and hit, and so you can
now equip your people. If they walk

1300
01:12:19,319 --> 01:12:23,159
through the gun or hit, they'll
get equipped with these laser pistols, all

1301
01:12:23,279 --> 01:12:28,000
laser batons. And then it essentially
turns into like an RTS game where there

1302
01:12:28,000 --> 01:12:32,560
are these huge battles of thousands of
these people with guns and batons and they're

1303
01:12:32,600 --> 01:12:36,399
just wailing into each other, flying
off cliffs, all sorts of crazy stuff

1304
01:12:36,399 --> 01:12:40,279
happening. All the while you still
just have to lead your people to the

1305
01:12:40,319 --> 01:12:43,640
exit. Like that game, that
core gameplay is always there, but then

1306
01:12:43,680 --> 01:12:47,199
like the just layers and layers and
layers upon it gets even crazier into like

1307
01:12:47,279 --> 01:12:53,600
these humongous, freaking battles that are
insane, and like the gameplay mechanics of

1308
01:12:53,600 --> 01:12:56,920
it are like fairly simple. You
know, it's two enemy types and they

1309
01:12:57,279 --> 01:13:00,640
auto attack, so you're like only
controlling them to a certain extent. But

1310
01:13:00,720 --> 01:13:03,479
man, like the puzzles that they
build around this is because like, yeah,

1311
01:13:03,479 --> 01:13:06,000
at the end of the day,
it is always still a puzzle game,

1312
01:13:06,159 --> 01:13:10,600
and so like to find the puzzle
solution to win this RTS battle.

1313
01:13:10,920 --> 01:13:14,079
It's such a crazy idea and not
where I thought this game was gonna go.

1314
01:13:14,119 --> 01:13:16,039
I thought, like near the act, near the end of act one,

1315
01:13:16,079 --> 01:13:18,600
I thought I was like about done
the game. I thought I was,

1316
01:13:18,680 --> 01:13:21,720
Oh, I'm probably a couple more
difficult puzzles. Oh, I'm going

1317
01:13:21,720 --> 01:13:25,760
into like a boss type puzzle level. And then like yeah, went into

1318
01:13:25,760 --> 01:13:29,199
that whole section with all these people, and now I'm in this section where

1319
01:13:29,239 --> 01:13:31,359
I'm getting other commands where like I
can just get this direct follow commands,

1320
01:13:31,359 --> 01:13:35,159
so rather than just following arrows that
like follow me around directly, and so

1321
01:13:35,199 --> 01:13:39,279
that feels once again very much like
an RTS type thing. Yeah, and

1322
01:13:39,319 --> 01:13:42,039
you're going and you're doing like stealth
sequences. There's like, you know,

1323
01:13:42,479 --> 01:13:45,119
enemy sightlines and you have to kind
of sneak them around this. It just

1324
01:13:45,199 --> 01:13:50,119
it's crazy how much this game keeps
layering on top of itself in totally unexpected

1325
01:13:50,159 --> 01:13:54,079
ways, crazy ways, and it
just makes for this thing where, man,

1326
01:13:54,119 --> 01:13:57,239
in the first hour or two,
what I was enjoying, this basic,

1327
01:13:57,319 --> 01:14:00,000
kind of simple, fun, block
pushing puzzle game has just evolved into

1328
01:14:00,039 --> 01:14:04,960
this insane, insane game that I
can't even like describe in one genre anymore.

1329
01:14:04,960 --> 01:14:09,319
It's just an amalgam of all these
different things. It's doing so much,

1330
01:14:09,319 --> 01:14:12,199
and it's doing it all like super
well. Like there hasn't been like

1331
01:14:12,279 --> 01:14:15,520
maybe one or two puzzles that were
kind of tedious and annoying, but out

1332
01:14:15,520 --> 01:14:17,000
of like I don't know, fifty
or sixty puzzles that I've done, like

1333
01:14:17,039 --> 01:14:20,720
all of them are interesting in some
way, and those goldies add like extra

1334
01:14:20,880 --> 01:14:24,439
challenges. So if you, like, you know, if you just want

1335
01:14:24,479 --> 01:14:26,880
to get to the end of the
level, usually it's not super duper challenging,

1336
01:14:26,920 --> 01:14:29,560
but then to get like one hundred
percent completion on all of them this

1337
01:14:29,600 --> 01:14:32,600
whole other thing. So I cannot
praise this game enough this is gonna be

1338
01:14:32,600 --> 01:14:35,359
one of my favorite puzzle games of
all time. I think when I'm done

1339
01:14:35,399 --> 01:14:39,600
with it, it is it's so
good. Yeah, Like the mechanics are

1340
01:14:39,640 --> 01:14:42,920
great, it's goofy and silly,
and like the aesthetic of it is so

1341
01:14:43,039 --> 01:14:46,000
special and weird, and the story
it's telling and like obviously there's you know,

1342
01:14:47,359 --> 01:14:51,920
there's there's kind of this meta narrative
to it of like humanity and what

1343
01:14:53,000 --> 01:14:58,279
people do and choice and like you
know, people warring against each other and

1344
01:14:58,279 --> 01:15:00,359
they're doing it without really thinking can
you know about what they're doing? There's

1345
01:15:00,399 --> 01:15:03,359
this element to it if you really
want to think on a heady type level

1346
01:15:03,399 --> 01:15:06,600
of what's going on, you can
really get pretty in the weeds on it.

1347
01:15:06,640 --> 01:15:11,479
But it's just so freaking good.
So yeah, once again, Game

1348
01:15:11,479 --> 01:15:14,439
pastor up highly recommend. I think
I'm almost done with it now. I

1349
01:15:14,479 --> 01:15:16,800
think I have one or two more
worlds to go, but yeah, just

1350
01:15:16,960 --> 01:15:19,359
so. And there's even like a
custom level editor, so I'm sure I

1351
01:15:19,359 --> 01:15:21,680
can just down the more levels if
I want, and it's all said and

1352
01:15:21,720 --> 01:15:26,279
done. Challenges, Like, there's
some levels that I have skipped the Goldies,

1353
01:15:26,279 --> 01:15:28,800
so I'm gonna go back and get
one hundred percent completion. It's just

1354
01:15:29,399 --> 01:15:32,439
such a freaking great game. So
uh, it's cool and nice, nice

1355
01:15:32,479 --> 01:15:38,000
surprise game pastor up there. Highly
recommend. Yeah, well that's it's the

1356
01:15:38,319 --> 01:15:41,000
lasers and stuff intrigued me. So
I don't think it'll be anything soon,

1357
01:15:41,079 --> 01:15:44,560
but that that that's an interesting turn. So yeah, like I said,

1358
01:15:44,600 --> 01:15:45,720
not, I mean maybe it was
in those trailers, but I kind of

1359
01:15:45,880 --> 01:15:49,439
forgot or something. But yeah,
it's just not where I expected the the

1360
01:15:49,479 --> 01:15:54,560
game to go. So uh yeah, good stuff, show us to humanity

1361
01:15:55,039 --> 01:15:57,760
as a whole and shows you press. This is a very this is a

1362
01:15:57,840 --> 01:16:00,079
very fun episode, just a classic
games we've been playing episod so ended up

1363
01:16:00,079 --> 01:16:02,800
being a lot. Since we've been
doing all these showcases and whatnot, I

1364
01:16:03,039 --> 01:16:05,399
had a chance to catch up on
what we've been playing, so it's nice

1365
01:16:05,439 --> 01:16:09,800
to kind of debrief on what we've
been playing for the last month here.

1366
01:16:09,880 --> 01:16:12,319
So yeah, it was that in
hell Blade pretty much for us. It

1367
01:16:12,760 --> 01:16:15,920
was nice just to kick back and
everything. So mm hmmm. Yeah,

1368
01:16:15,000 --> 01:16:18,479
next week's episode, it's a little
up in the air right now, just

1369
01:16:18,479 --> 01:16:23,479
because it's a holiday here in Canada, so we might pre record something.

1370
01:16:23,479 --> 01:16:26,600
I might just do a solo episode. Not sure yet, but all you

1371
01:16:26,600 --> 01:16:29,640
gotta do subscribe to the feed,
stay tuned, and you will see what

1372
01:16:29,680 --> 01:16:31,359
we are doing next week. Thank
you for joining me, thank you for

1373
01:16:31,439 --> 01:16:34,199
listening, and we'll see you again
next time. Bye bye,