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We're gonna right out of kay commentary
at the hotline that we'll bring our good

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buddy, Parker Gabriel at Parker J. Gabriel on Twitter covers the Denver broadcast

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of the Denver Post. Parker,
how you doing this evening? I'm doing

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great. How do I get Joe
doing? Doing pretty well? Known if

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you watched any of the Euros at
all, but uh, uh, like

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as we was just talking about,
we have the team from Yuruguay's is into

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the stands to fight fans from Columbia. Yeah, I saw that. That's

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uh yeah, like you said,
I mean it's you know, you get

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shut out and then you go,
you know, try to hit something.

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I guess. But it's pretty That
is a pretty wild scene. Yeah,

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that's I mean, it's embarrassing.
But at the same time, I'm gonna

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it's sports talk radio cookies, so
I'm gonna I'm gonna get my feast on.

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Uh you know, right now,
I want to talk to uh talk

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to you real quick. Of a's
start off with big twelve media days.

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I don't know if you've been paying
attention or not. Of course, yesterday

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Mike Gundy comes out admits to drunk
driving thousands of times. Today Coach Prime

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uh was was there talking about the
Colorado Buffalo's program and how he has more

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pressure on him to win than maybe
others. And while I don't necessarily agree

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with everything that Deon Sanders says,
I think he has a point on that

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because if it was literally anyone else, I don't think that five wins for

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the CU Buffs this season would be
seen as falling short. But if Coach

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Prime doesn't win more than five games, it's definitely going to be seen as

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falling short. Yeah, I think
that's right. And then I think it's

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also fair. I don't mean this
in a flight to Dion and that program

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in the least, but like,
yeah, the pressure might be different on

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him, but he brings that.
I mean he's not. I think it

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might be a little bit. It's
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I mean the way that you run
your program and the way you talk about

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your program invites that pressure, which
is great. Go for it, you

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know, put big expectations out there, draw a lot of eyeballs, understand

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what it's going to do in terms
of generating buzz, and also criticism,

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some of which is fair and some
of which is just sort of your general

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internet babble. But like, yeah, there's pressure, and he is the

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one that it starts and ends with
and it's by design. So are they

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going to be held to what like
do they need to show progress? Sure?

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Yeah they do. But it is
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I mean, he's the one that's
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it's a surprise. He shouldn't be
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his program, right, I absolute
agree, and he absolutely does invite it.

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The thing I guess I question is
the vitriol that gets leveled at him

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because Dean isn't doing anything original.
This is the same playbook that Pete Carroll

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rolled out at USC. It's the
exact same playbook. It's just Pete Carroll

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versus maybe Dion Sanders, who is
maybe a bit more in your face than

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Pete Carroll. Is that the is
that the difference here? I think a

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little bit, you know how that
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from the New York Giants and the
off season Hard Knocks, right, and

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like the one that one of the
ones that was making their house today was

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Joe shown with their vice president of
communications, and he said something about like

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he said something about Saquon and those
negotiations, and the PR guy was like,

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eh, I wouldn't say it that
way, and Joe Shoon started laughing,

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was like, hy, yeah,
I'm not obviously going to say that

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during the news conference, and like
Dion just sometimes says that during the news

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conference, and like that. I
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once in a while it goes a
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you feel a little bit like,
oh man, I mean he is talking

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about, you know, making so
many kids transfer and it it made like

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offends the sensibility a little bit.
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especially in our business, then like
we want coaches to be honest, right,

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we want to not be afraid to
speak their mind. We want them

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to say interesting things, even if
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to say interesting things. And so
like I will never I don't know if

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he's handled everything perfectly or whatever,
but like I will never complain about a

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head coach, let alone one with
the wattage that that Dean Sanders stakes with

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them everywhere he goes being upfront and
honest and saying things on a daily basis

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that draw eyeballs and draw readers and
listeners and viewers and all of that.

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Well, yeah, and it's certainly
more fun for you and I because I

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mean I barely even go to press
conferences anymore because they're so sanitized, they're

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so scripted, and it's usually what
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You're you're not getting real answers to
questions. You're getting the coach or whomever

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is up there framing their answer through
the narratives that the team is already predetermined,

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honestly practiced in an effort to get
whatever message that they want to cross.

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Yeah, definitely, And I mean, like listen, I mean it's

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the same thing if you if you
listen to a shareholder call from Bank of

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America or whatever. You know,
I mean, like this is you you

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want to like you want Companies want
polished, they want people that organizations want

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people that represent them well and say
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all that. And like when we
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more wrath. Now, especially with
social social media, you catch more vitriol.

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And then like the same thing happens
just in a different flavor. If

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you're boring all the time, I
can you know, think of a quarterback

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who played in Denver for two years
who like part of the seeming problem that

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everybody had with him was he never
said anything interesting and he never said anything

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that sounded original. And then you've
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of the spectrum saying things that sort
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time, and it's and and it's
like you you know, it's like you

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can't win regardless of sort of where
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just say, hey, listen,
if if he's going to be the star

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of the show, he wants to
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to say spiky stuff like go for
it. That's that's that's my opinion on

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it. Just at some point they've
got to deliver that. That's the thing.

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It's just that you paint the target
and you accelerate the process as it

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works with the Parker Gabriel at Parker
J. Gabriel on Twitter works for the

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Denver Post. I want to switch
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bit. The news came out the
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And it's interesting the way that this
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that Jared Stidham got the team together. They're down there at TCU and and

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they're practicing. The reality is Botix
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so this is kind of but that
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It's that jared' Stidham has done that. That's such a it's a bizarre way

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to frame what is happening there,
is it not? Yeah, maybe a

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little bit, you know, you
know what it's interesting about that, Like

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I didn't actually give that a lot
of thoughts that that's the way it had

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been portrayed. And I think it's
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I think the thing that you've noticed
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know, Jared's didham like so far
in his career, Like on the field,

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he's been what he is, but
he's like no matter what you think

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the way the quarterbacks is going to
go or whatever. Like, the thing

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that's undeniable about Jared Siddam so far
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position than he's ever been in before, Like he's really competing for the job,

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and whether he can win it,
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But he's actually had this opportunity to
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and say, like, I'm the
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laughing about that. I was laughing
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It's like you're the old man in
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he's like twenty eight years old,
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think one of the things you notice
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sort of live up to that.
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the veteran guy in the room to
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go through. And I think,
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he really, you know, wants
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everyone to be there, or whether
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like Bo's there too and that's great, and so like it's a very it's

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very interesting because you know, it
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down base in Dallas and all of
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it is interesting that that two of
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Jarrett has clearly sort of taken it
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gonna do everything I can in the
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forward. But one of the things
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me at the end of August is
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leader. And these days in the
NFL, this sort of thing is part

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of what goes into being a veteran, veteran leader, leader and quarterback on

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the team. We're talking with Parker
Gabriel. You know, Bill Barnwell puts

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out a lot of content, and
you know he had this write up of

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this the skill position groups and rank
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ahead of only the Chargers and the
Giants, bemoaning a lack of firepower

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not named Courtland Sutton. And the
quote here is the day's Denver had a

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promising young group of playmakers have passed. Jerry Judy never had his breakout before

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being traded to the Browns. Tim
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up his knee, average three six
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Marvin Mimms didn't much behind Judy in
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ostensibly true, I wouldn't say that
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so much as it was built on
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with what with which they were doing. Now, there were some years where

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they had some great tight ends,
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that kind of stuff, but it
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a slant guy on the on the
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or Michael Thomas, whatever, They
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left hand side to take the top
off of it was Ted Ginn, Brandon

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Cooks, you know whomever, and
then a stable of running backs. Are

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we worried at all that the Broncos
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eventually takes over. I mean,
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that, But I also think that
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it exists. Certainly I think that
person is unproven, right like it we

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saw the flashes from Marvin Mims last
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say, Okay, he can do
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he doesn't do this well. You
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Troy Franklin can adjust to the physicality, especially of playing in the NFL.

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Like they have some guys that if
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dlca's case, or they sort of
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a little muscle in Juliu McLoughlin's case, Like, you can see some guys

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that that can be playmakers. I
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concern or whatever, Like I wouldn't
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We're a few weeks in and we
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single player is that keeps defensive coordinators
up right. But at the same time,

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just as you're saying, Ben,
like part of John Peyton's you know,

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philosophy and part of the system is
if you're in the right spot and

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we have a vision and a role
for you, you don't necessarily need like

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four of those guys, right,
Like, if you're in the right spot,

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the timing is there. The quarterback
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go, so the scheme can help
the players, and the players can help

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the scheme rather than being tilted too
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so like, I don't think that
their collection of skill talent, at least

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as far as I've seen it so
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But I also am not ready to
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and say like there's no way that
as a collective group that they can't do

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damage and score points, because I
think it just you know, it remains

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to be seen. Sehn Payton clearly
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be better offensively than they were last
year. That's going to take some doing,

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obviously, given all of the change. But yeah, I mean I

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can see both sides that I don't
know who the big time playmaker is and

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I don't know that it's critical to
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a little better offense. I'm kind
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everybody's focused on the Broncos offense,
but the more interesting stories to me you

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are the other two units. With
the change in the kickoff roles, special

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teams. All eyes are on special
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to solve the new kickoff rules before
anybody else. And then defensively, the

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Broncos look like they're in a pivot. You know, you look at the

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personnel they brought in, you look
at what they've tried to do here.

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This looks like it's gonna be something
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run. Vance tried to have continuity
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Gero Vero kind of continued that,
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It didn't really didn't really work,
and it's anathetical to what what you

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know Vance does. Anyway, Vance
is a Wade Phillips disciple. They want

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to send everybody play play man,
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field close, whereas you know Vic
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fronts, cover four, cover two
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A lot of own I'm wondering if
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aggressive defense this year, and if
that may be the talk of the town.

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You go back and look at the
winning streak the Broncos had. The

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defense largely carried them, Yeah,
yeah, definitely, And you know there

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was a there was a sort of
anomalous turnover binge in there, but those

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those happen in football, right,
Like the key is when you get hot

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and you force a bunch of turnovers
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they did that in that in that
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I do think, you know,
like you're saying, I do think you'll

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see, you know, more more
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aggressive. It'll be interesting to watch
how the sort of identity of that group

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unfolds over the course of camp.
But they're obviously like, you know,

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you get some time playing. I
really, I know it's a ways out

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still, but just given the firepower
that Green Bay has offensively, I'm very

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interested to see sort of where Denver's
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during that joint practice August sixteenth,
because it's a good test, right and

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and the thing is like they're just
built a little bit differently. They they

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you can play more aggressively if you're
not one of the worst teams in the

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NFL against a run, you can
get into more pass rushing situations and and

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play, you know, put it
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which is how like you said,
how Vans likes to play, and so

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if they can, if they can
be better against the run. They put

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a lot of sources in sort of
like several different ways in terms of like

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upgrading the town on the defensive line, which we've talked about before. And

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so if that if the front seven
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five to six, like the defensive
line and the outside linebackers, if those

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guys are a good, solid NFL
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long way, not only in improving
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passer, but also just in like
how confident you are to play aggressively and

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let you know your guys in the
secondary play man and make plays on the

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ball. Tudlick Parker Gabriel of the
Dever Post Parker, what is the bare

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minimum this year? You know we
talked at the beginning of the segment.

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What's the bare minimum for Coach Prime? What's the bare minimum for Sean Payton?

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What's the what's the benchmark they need
to clear in terms of wins this

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year? Man, that's a great
question. I have to tell you that

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I don't know the ins and outs
of Colorado's schedule all that well, I

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feel like I feel like in college
football, like if you're not playing in

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a bowl game, it's just it's
hard to call it a success, right,

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And so like, could they and
especially when you've got Shugar Sanders flank

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quarterback, like you just you have
to find a way to beat the teams

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that are supposed to be you have
to find a way to steal one.

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And so like I feel like if
they find themselves out of the postseason again,

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like I just don't know how it
could be better, But like I

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don't know how you call that good. And then you know, with the

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Broncos, I honestly don't really know, Like I don't know that I've felt

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that out yet. I had a
pretty good feel for it at this time

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last year, and it's just there's
been so much change that in a way,

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I feel like, no matter how
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ten, it could be six.
If you know, categorically the answer to

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the quarterback question. At the end
of this year, I think that counts

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as a win. Now, that
doesn't necessarily mean it will have been a

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good year, but to me,
like, do you want to make the

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playoffs? Yes, with the number
of teams, the number of teams that

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go from postseason to out out to
postseason every year, Like you're not gonna

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hear me saying, oh, it's
a great year if they don't make the

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playoffs, but it will be a
productive year if you know seven months from

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now, you say, hey,
listen, whether it's Bonix or either of

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the other two guys, Like,
if they know the answer to the quarterback

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question categorically at the end of this
year or ninety eight percent at the end

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of this year, I think that's
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then they're a lot more flexible in
twenty twenty five. Yeah, I think

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I tend to agree, at least
specifically on the Broncos, and that is

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that the wins, not not they're
not irrelevant, but if you know,

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if you know the answer, if
you have the answer, whichever one of

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the three of the quarterbacks, not
not that you have you know know that

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they're not good enough, but if
one of them is and you know and

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you're willing to build around that,
then that's I think the big thing.

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The other thing you got to do
this year, you got to beat the

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Las Vegas Raiders the Bronx. The
Denver Broncos had never beaten the Las Vegas

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Raiders ever, never beaten the Las
Vegas Raiders. That's a problem. So

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you got to do that this year, Parker. We're out of time.

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I appreciate you, you jumping on
tonight. Yep, you've bet hav a

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good night. Absolutely take care of
Parker Gable. The Denver Post

