WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.240 --> 00:00:05.160 This episode may contain content of a graphic nature, including descriptions of physical and 2 00:00:05.240 --> 00:00:10.560 sexual violence against adults, children, and animals. Listener discretion is advised. 3 00:00:12.720 --> 00:00:17.160 Hi everyone, I'm Talia and I'm Tanya, and together we are Crimes and 4 00:00:17.239 --> 00:00:38.119 Consequences, a true crime podcast. Welcome back, everyone to another episode of 5 00:00:38.159 --> 00:00:44.640 Crimes and Consequences. I'm Tanya and I'm Talia, and we're here to give 6 00:00:44.640 --> 00:00:51.119 into a really crazy story today. And it is something that where this took 7 00:00:51.159 --> 00:00:57.399 place. Just the name of the person who committed these crimes, like everybody 8 00:00:57.399 --> 00:01:02.679 in that town just knows, and his name is Pazuzu Algorad. Oh, 9 00:01:02.759 --> 00:01:06.120 yeah, Zuzu. But he wasn't born that way, right, No, 10 00:01:06.239 --> 00:01:07.680 he wasn't born that way. So we're gonna get into it. But before 11 00:01:07.719 --> 00:01:11.439 we do, I would just like to remind everyone to hit like subscribe, 12 00:01:11.560 --> 00:01:17.079 follow whatever button you have available, and whatever way you're watching. If you're 13 00:01:17.079 --> 00:01:19.799 on YouTube, thank you to True Crime Daily. Thank you True Crime Daily. 14 00:01:19.959 --> 00:01:23.439 And if you're on a podcast app, you know what to do it 15 00:01:23.719 --> 00:01:33.920 like subscribed. So, as I mentioned, this tale unravels like just like 16 00:01:33.959 --> 00:01:42.120 a shadowy tapestry. Oh, intertwining crime, mental struggles, and just some 17 00:01:42.319 --> 00:01:49.439 things out into like very eerie territory. Oh okay, So John Alexander Lawson, 18 00:01:49.120 --> 00:01:56.799 a man who adopted this unsettling moniker, Pazuzu Algorad. I got some 19 00:01:57.079 --> 00:02:00.640 fancy words going on. I know I'm gonna dealt into his life a little 20 00:02:00.640 --> 00:02:06.319 bit, Okay, So brace yourself for I mean, it's horrific. It's 21 00:02:07.200 --> 00:02:09.280 you're just not you know, you're not gonna believe it. It's crazy. 22 00:02:09.639 --> 00:02:15.280 I love those times, those types of stories. So John Alexander Lawson. 23 00:02:15.599 --> 00:02:21.080 He was born August twelfth, nineteen seventy eight, in San Francisco, California, 24 00:02:21.199 --> 00:02:25.319 to his parents, Cynthia and Timothy. In nineteen eighty three, when 25 00:02:25.400 --> 00:02:30.919 John was just five years old, the family relocated to Clemens, North Carolina, 26 00:02:31.280 --> 00:02:36.960 which is a suburb near Winston Salem. They settled into a house in 27 00:02:37.000 --> 00:02:43.719 this wonderfully quiet, middle class neighborhood, and this would be John's home until 28 00:02:44.479 --> 00:02:49.520 into adulthood. Okay. When he was about eight, his parents divorced, 29 00:02:49.520 --> 00:02:53.680 and this is about nineteen eighty six. His mother blamed his father for the 30 00:02:53.719 --> 00:02:59.560 failed marriage, accusing him of being an alcoholic and a drug addict who often 31 00:02:59.560 --> 00:03:02.479 got into trouble with the law. I mean I kind of understand, right, 32 00:03:02.599 --> 00:03:07.159 he's a loser. Yeah. John's father moved to California after the divorce 33 00:03:07.400 --> 00:03:13.599 and sort of faded from Little John's life. So we got Big John and 34 00:03:13.639 --> 00:03:16.039 Little John. Yeah, Big John and Little John. Once the separation was 35 00:03:16.039 --> 00:03:23.639 final, little John's mom, Cynthia, she fell into a downward spiral of 36 00:03:23.719 --> 00:03:31.159 alcoholism herself and reckless behavior. Her nights were spent partying with friends being promiscuous 37 00:03:31.639 --> 00:03:38.080 while leaving John, Little John home alone to fend for himself. During this 38 00:03:38.159 --> 00:03:42.759 time, John began to have trouble at school. I mean, well, 39 00:03:42.840 --> 00:03:45.919 yeah, he's got a fuck yeah. I mean it's just a reflection of 40 00:03:45.960 --> 00:03:50.000 what's going on at home. He's doing poorly in school, and he ultimately 41 00:03:50.080 --> 00:03:54.719 needed to repeat a year, Okay, and I mean this is elementary school, 42 00:03:55.000 --> 00:03:58.520 right, So we got help and behind. Yeah, he got helped 43 00:03:58.520 --> 00:04:02.000 behind. In nineteen eighty seven, when he was nine, his mom made 44 00:04:02.000 --> 00:04:08.039 the tough decision to have him hospitalized for a mental evaluation due to just his 45 00:04:08.199 --> 00:04:12.759 worsening behavior. And he was like showing a lot of aggression and she just 46 00:04:12.800 --> 00:04:15.480 became worried, like, you know, it's something going on with my child. 47 00:04:15.800 --> 00:04:23.800 Yeah, doctors diagnosed him with schizophrenia ooh at nine yeah what and agoraphobia, 48 00:04:23.879 --> 00:04:28.959 but as time went on, mental professionals, yeah, mental health professionals, 49 00:04:29.000 --> 00:04:32.839 they would question those initial diagnoses. So that's pretty I mean, if 50 00:04:32.839 --> 00:04:36.639 he's not hearing voices and seeing things ninees, I'm pretty young to say schizo 51 00:04:36.800 --> 00:04:41.319 front of rights, fronic, but maybe he was hearing things. But it's 52 00:04:41.319 --> 00:04:46.879 the eighties, who knows, right. Despite this unsettling home life, it's 53 00:04:46.920 --> 00:04:53.560 important to understand that John's childhood wasn't entirely grim. His mom really really loved 54 00:04:53.639 --> 00:04:57.959 him, like, loved him deeply, and she remained even though she's up 55 00:04:57.959 --> 00:05:00.839 partying and stuff, she was still attentive to him, and even though she 56 00:05:00.920 --> 00:05:08.079 was battling her own demons and alcoholism, her love remained steadfast and was a 57 00:05:08.199 --> 00:05:13.759 constant presence in John's life. In nineteen ninety one, when he was about 58 00:05:13.800 --> 00:05:18.439 thirteen, that's when he started sneaking alcohol behind his mom's back, and of 59 00:05:18.480 --> 00:05:24.680 course this led to troubling incidents when he got to school drunk. Oh wow, 60 00:05:25.199 --> 00:05:28.519 I mean at thirteen, what's that eighth grade? I didn't even do 61 00:05:28.639 --> 00:05:33.279 that. I mean lots I mean, I can only imagine I might have 62 00:05:33.360 --> 00:05:35.879 done that. I don't think so, though. No, you didn't show 63 00:05:35.920 --> 00:05:41.759 up to school drunk at thirteen maybe maybe probably not. Yeah, I don't 64 00:05:41.800 --> 00:05:47.120 know. Fifteen, you're slightly older. I don't know. And around this 65 00:05:47.199 --> 00:05:50.439 time, John decided he was going to just cut ties completely with his dad. 66 00:05:50.959 --> 00:05:54.160 His dad, like I said, his dad just kind of wandered in 67 00:05:54.199 --> 00:05:56.879 and out of his life anyway. And he just decided, you know what, 68 00:05:57.680 --> 00:06:00.480 I'm not going to communicate anymore with him, and so he relied solely 69 00:06:00.560 --> 00:06:08.079 on his mom, Cynthia, for any parenting. So Cynthia was, you 70 00:06:08.120 --> 00:06:14.959 know, his only parent in his life. John sppeers at school also distanced 71 00:06:15.000 --> 00:06:18.759 themselves from him due to his kind of strange behavior. And yeah, he's 72 00:06:18.839 --> 00:06:24.959 drunk and he's been diagnosed with schizophrenics a little bit because they started calling him 73 00:06:25.000 --> 00:06:29.560 third boy. What, Yeah, because he wants to be called third boy. 74 00:06:29.720 --> 00:06:32.160 Oh that's a horrible nickname at thirteen years old. It must have been 75 00:06:32.199 --> 00:06:36.000 a bunch of bullies. Yeah, but you know why, oh gosh, 76 00:06:36.040 --> 00:06:41.079 he refused to bathe so he would come to school and he constantly smelled like 77 00:06:41.600 --> 00:06:44.920 hin, Yeah, human waste, you know, yeah, probably a little 78 00:06:44.920 --> 00:06:46.920 bit of piss there too, probably skaky, right, third boy, third 79 00:06:46.959 --> 00:06:50.040 boy. Okay, that would make me want a shower, Yeah, right, 80 00:06:50.920 --> 00:06:56.279 you would think. But no, I'd never want to be called turd 81 00:06:56.319 --> 00:07:00.480 girl. Yeah, third girl. Ever, I mean neither. No, 82 00:07:01.199 --> 00:07:04.920 I would scrub the hell out of myself. I enjoyed showering. I enjoyed 83 00:07:04.920 --> 00:07:12.800 being clean. He did it apparently, Okay, Okay. When John was 84 00:07:12.800 --> 00:07:16.279 about fifteen, his mom, Cynthia, married a man another John. His 85 00:07:16.360 --> 00:07:20.720 name's Johnny Larry James. Okay, so we'll call him Johnny. According to 86 00:07:20.800 --> 00:07:28.120 Johnny, little John harbored resentment toward him because he was able to provide structure, 87 00:07:28.720 --> 00:07:32.399 authority. He acted like a father figure. And little John is like 88 00:07:32.399 --> 00:07:36.439 fifteen, and he's like used to this wild life, yeah, with no 89 00:07:36.519 --> 00:07:40.079 structure, and all of a sudden, somebody's gonna come in and try to 90 00:07:40.120 --> 00:07:45.279 have this straight and narrow life and he is like no tool. He's like 91 00:07:45.519 --> 00:07:51.040 no, no, no, no. So Johnny took charge, brought stability 92 00:07:51.040 --> 00:07:57.959 of the house, and it curbed little John's attempts to kind of assert like 93 00:07:58.040 --> 00:08:01.959 authority over his mom because as he's older, like Cynthia was a little bit 94 00:08:03.040 --> 00:08:07.519 weaker, like I don't know, the dynamic in the household change. He's 95 00:08:07.560 --> 00:08:11.839 starting to rule the nasty. Yes, he's becoming more authoritative. His mom 96 00:08:11.959 --> 00:08:16.839 is becoming less. And now Johnny shows up and like throws this whole dynamic 97 00:08:16.879 --> 00:08:20.759 over, you know, putting a squash on you know, Johnny's Little Johnny's 98 00:08:20.800 --> 00:08:24.639 plans and so, and trying to control them. Probably, yeah, probably, 99 00:08:24.720 --> 00:08:28.680 and trying to set rules. I'm sure, parameters like you need to 100 00:08:28.720 --> 00:08:31.639 be home or you can't do this and that. Right for a fifteen year 101 00:08:31.680 --> 00:08:33.559 old, I'm not going to let you get drunk before school today. Exactly. 102 00:08:35.320 --> 00:08:41.320 In nineteen ninety four, Little John failed his freshman year at West Forsyth 103 00:08:41.720 --> 00:08:46.399 High School and he set out to repeat it. But halfway through this second 104 00:08:46.399 --> 00:08:52.000 attempt at his freshman year in nineteen ninety five, he was seventeen. He 105 00:08:52.080 --> 00:08:56.279 just decided he's seventeen, is a freshman. Yeah, he's done. Yeah, 106 00:08:56.279 --> 00:08:58.799 he dropped out. I'm done. He's like, I am completely done 107 00:09:00.120 --> 00:09:03.840 school. When he was eighteen, he's still living in his home with his 108 00:09:03.240 --> 00:09:11.399 parents and his stepdad, and so you have this chaos right with Johnny and 109 00:09:11.440 --> 00:09:18.039 Little John, and the home life is a little bit chaotic. But one 110 00:09:18.080 --> 00:09:22.240 of the things that the neighbors noticed was that Johnny and Cynthia kept really good 111 00:09:22.279 --> 00:09:24.200 care of their house. And this does become important. I know, you're 112 00:09:24.240 --> 00:09:26.399 like, what the hell, why are you telling me this? But they 113 00:09:26.480 --> 00:09:31.279 kept the outside of the house really well inside and when it was well manicured 114 00:09:31.320 --> 00:09:35.799 home, and you know, they just enjoyed. Johnny and Cynthia enjoyed taking 115 00:09:35.840 --> 00:09:39.039 care of their home. They had pride in their house. Yeah, they 116 00:09:39.039 --> 00:09:43.320 had pride in their house. When little John was about twenty one, this 117 00:09:43.360 --> 00:09:48.960 is when he finally got his very first job. Oh and what was he 118 00:09:50.039 --> 00:09:54.960 doing all those other years? I living off mom? Right, Okay, 119 00:09:54.120 --> 00:10:01.799 probably selling weed? Probably who I'm guessing. Allegedly he was working this job 120 00:10:01.840 --> 00:10:05.759 that he got, he worked as a landscaper. However, his employment was 121 00:10:05.840 --> 00:10:09.120 very short lived. He only lasted about a week before he was like, 122 00:10:09.159 --> 00:10:13.679 fuck this, yes, I'm not doing this anymore any quit. Around that 123 00:10:13.759 --> 00:10:20.399 same time, somehow he convinced his mom to leave Johnny. And I don't 124 00:10:20.440 --> 00:10:26.440 know why but or how he got her to do that, but he encouraged 125 00:10:26.480 --> 00:10:31.120 his mom to kick Johnny out and she did it, and that was maybe 126 00:10:31.159 --> 00:10:35.000 she was sick Johnny too. Who knows. There's always more to the story. 127 00:10:35.120 --> 00:10:39.200 Yeah, I don't know. I don't know exactly why they separated. 128 00:10:39.559 --> 00:10:43.559 I just know that they did. So Johnny's out. Johnny's out with him 129 00:10:43.600 --> 00:10:46.519 gone now finally, and then dad John is in California. Yep, so 130 00:10:46.559 --> 00:10:50.919 we got a little Johnny. Yep, still got little Johnny. And so 131 00:10:50.919 --> 00:10:54.480 from then on, when Johnny the stepdad was gone, Cynthia shouldered all the 132 00:10:54.519 --> 00:10:58.639 financial burden. She ended up covering all of her son's expenses because he's not 133 00:10:58.720 --> 00:11:03.399 working. What was she doing I'm not sure exactly what she did for a 134 00:11:03.440 --> 00:11:11.200 living, but she's also spending money supporting little john his cigarette and alcohol like 135 00:11:11.519 --> 00:11:15.000 habits. She's buying, buying them, smokes, buying them. You know, 136 00:11:15.240 --> 00:11:18.600 that's nice mom, that's a nice mom. It is a nice mom. 137 00:11:18.879 --> 00:11:22.480 No, it's not the way to show you get your ass to work 138 00:11:22.600 --> 00:11:26.000 at least right. I'm not spending my money on shit for you, like 139 00:11:26.919 --> 00:11:30.200 but I am. I know, I'm not. I mean, I don't 140 00:11:30.240 --> 00:11:33.080 know. I'm just saying, but okay, I mean, I made my 141 00:11:33.159 --> 00:11:35.039 kid get a job. She wants to spend money on dumb shit. You 142 00:11:35.120 --> 00:11:39.799 spend your own money, right, Yeah, so this is now a shift 143 00:11:39.919 --> 00:11:43.919 in their dynamic. John relied on his mom for financial support, but he 144 00:11:45.039 --> 00:11:50.559 was also able to exert dominance in the house, you know, like he 145 00:11:50.639 --> 00:11:54.279 always wanted to. So now he's like he's got control. Yeah, he's 146 00:11:54.320 --> 00:12:01.440 got control of the house for some reason. On September eleventh, two thousand 147 00:12:01.440 --> 00:12:07.200 and one, and this is when the same day of the attack where the 148 00:12:07.279 --> 00:12:11.360 you know planes full into the towers and nine to eleven we call it nine 149 00:12:11.360 --> 00:12:16.960 to eleven, nine to eleven, yes, yes, that same day in 150 00:12:16.000 --> 00:12:22.279 the conservative town of Clemens, North Carolina. John's rebellious nature now reached new 151 00:12:22.320 --> 00:12:26.919 heights. So he hears about this attack. He's twenty three. He attempts 152 00:12:26.960 --> 00:12:33.440 to make a new image for himself without embracing the religion Islam. He decides 153 00:12:33.480 --> 00:12:39.879 he's going to just start looking like a jihadist. He he begins wearing a 154 00:12:39.919 --> 00:12:46.320 turban and clothing that's reminiscent of Middle Eastern you know, male type clothing just 155 00:12:46.360 --> 00:12:50.639 to fuck with people, Yes, just to fuck with people. And it 156 00:12:50.720 --> 00:12:54.080 was kind of a little bit ridiculous. He's only five seven and about one 157 00:12:54.159 --> 00:12:58.159 hundred and eighteen pounds, so he's not a big guy, but he's deciding, 158 00:12:58.159 --> 00:13:01.039 you know, oh, I'm just going to strike fear into people's minds 159 00:13:01.039 --> 00:13:05.000 and whatever, you know, just fucking with people, even though I mean 160 00:13:05.039 --> 00:13:09.960 it's just an image and he's a poser, but you know so. At 161 00:13:11.000 --> 00:13:15.320 the end of two thousand and one, John encountered trouble with the law for 162 00:13:15.360 --> 00:13:18.799 the first time, which I'm surprised it took this one right the first time. 163 00:13:18.960 --> 00:13:22.399 Yeah, he was arrested for a dui, which is drinking under the 164 00:13:22.559 --> 00:13:28.120 influence, which resulted with him spending the night in the drunk take before he 165 00:13:28.200 --> 00:13:31.600 was allowed to be released the following night as Mom bailed him out, of 166 00:13:31.639 --> 00:13:35.039 course she did. In two thousand and two, when he was twenty four, 167 00:13:37.440 --> 00:13:41.279 a significant shift occurred in his life. This is when he decides he's 168 00:13:41.360 --> 00:13:48.320 going to legally change his name and adopt the moniker Pazuzu all regard. I 169 00:13:48.320 --> 00:13:50.320 don't what, I don't even know what to fucking say about that. Algorrad? 170 00:13:50.440 --> 00:13:54.480 What does that mean? Algarad Pazuzu Algorrad. Well, the name was 171 00:13:54.519 --> 00:14:01.399 inspired by the Assyrian king of demons featured in the movie The Exorcist. Oh 172 00:14:01.440 --> 00:14:05.840 I should have known that, Yes, Hello. Then he spun this false 173 00:14:05.879 --> 00:14:11.240 tale where he claimed his mom was a Satanist who had given this him this 174 00:14:11.399 --> 00:14:16.000 name at birth. But you know, of course, obviously this was all 175 00:14:16.000 --> 00:14:22.559 made up. She was Pazuzu or did she call him little Johnny? I 176 00:14:22.600 --> 00:14:26.720 think she always called him John. I'm thinking, I'm just curious. I'm 177 00:14:26.720 --> 00:14:28.799 sorry, but I'm not going to call my child something ridiculous like this. 178 00:14:30.000 --> 00:14:31.720 I don't know. But then again, he's out of the house, so 179 00:14:31.759 --> 00:14:35.639 who knows what she did? Right, So, now, embracing this new 180 00:14:35.639 --> 00:14:41.600 identity, he puts the sign on their front door. And this is just 181 00:14:41.639 --> 00:14:46.639 some This is just some crazy shit. So it's it's quite a long sign. 182 00:14:46.039 --> 00:14:48.519 It's on this white piece of paper and you have to be close to 183 00:14:48.519 --> 00:14:50.600 be able to read it. It wasn't like this huge sign. I can't 184 00:14:50.600 --> 00:14:54.960 wait. Yeah, we will show a picture of it. But the sign 185 00:14:56.080 --> 00:15:00.759 side quote no gang members allowed. Anyone that dresses the same, has the 186 00:15:00.799 --> 00:15:03.519 same badge, and calls themselves the authority of a land that they did not 187 00:15:03.639 --> 00:15:09.080 create, a land that they only seized through terrorism, has no permission to 188 00:15:09.240 --> 00:15:13.519 enter this land unless you are a native, since this is their land, 189 00:15:13.840 --> 00:15:16.440 since this is the first amendment of your fake laws. We see you are 190 00:15:16.480 --> 00:15:22.159 guilty until proven innocent. You can also make laws, so can if you 191 00:15:22.360 --> 00:15:26.000 If you can make laws, so can we. So be it. Quote 192 00:15:26.039 --> 00:15:30.399 I don't even know what the fuck that mean. You can't come here. 193 00:15:30.440 --> 00:15:33.720 I get the gang, I get no gangs. You're not allowed to come 194 00:15:33.759 --> 00:15:39.679 on this land unless you're native because it's really their land. But he's on 195 00:15:39.720 --> 00:15:43.000 the land, like he's not native. No, he's not native. Nope. 196 00:15:43.480 --> 00:15:48.240 And the first amendments bullshit. And if you wear a badge the same 197 00:15:48.639 --> 00:15:52.720 something yea the police, yes, maybe yep, you're not allowed you know 198 00:15:52.879 --> 00:15:58.000 the money or he said the land was seized through terrorism, like so he 199 00:15:58.039 --> 00:16:02.440 puts us on the front door. Okay, okay, okay. I can 200 00:16:02.440 --> 00:16:06.320 only imagine what people thought. No, I've bet not a lot there the 201 00:16:06.320 --> 00:16:11.639 poor malemn. This is before Amazon Amazon, right, because then they'd be 202 00:16:11.720 --> 00:16:15.080 like, fuck, I don't know what to do with his package. Who's 203 00:16:15.320 --> 00:16:22.159 just like, do I deliver it? Okay. Alongside this post on the 204 00:16:22.200 --> 00:16:29.120 front door, there was a sticker that proclaimed quote evil will triumph. Oh 205 00:16:29.159 --> 00:16:33.120 and his mom says yes, okay. With that, apparently evil will triumph, 206 00:16:33.320 --> 00:16:37.600 Yes, Evil will triumph. And these warnings were only the beginning of 207 00:16:37.639 --> 00:16:42.039 the changes that were gonna take place inside. This was not well tidy, 208 00:16:42.159 --> 00:16:48.679 no no. Following the name change Pazuzu, and I'm gonna call him that 209 00:16:48.759 --> 00:16:52.320 from now on. Even it's fucking ridiculous, but I'm gonna say it, 210 00:16:52.919 --> 00:16:59.759 Okay, he began to get tattoos on his face that represented ancient warrior cultures 211 00:16:59.759 --> 00:17:03.400 from around the world, despite you know, he obviously had no ties to 212 00:17:03.480 --> 00:17:10.119 those cultures, I mean, left the city, grew up in No. 213 00:17:10.880 --> 00:17:15.599 Like I said, he's a poser. He displayed tattoos on his forearms bearing 214 00:17:15.640 --> 00:17:21.559 the words Satan and villain. So you know, he's showing everybody who he 215 00:17:22.000 --> 00:17:25.480 you know, he's dedicating this new persona. Is he a Satanist? Now, 216 00:17:25.839 --> 00:17:30.559 yeah, he's supposedly a satanst Okay. Between two thousand and two and 217 00:17:30.559 --> 00:17:37.000 two thousand and seven, this house that was once meticulously maintained by Johnny and 218 00:17:37.119 --> 00:17:41.720 Cynthia its spiraled. It just inendo, decay and chaos. It became a 219 00:17:41.759 --> 00:17:52.319 gathering spot for outcasts from Clemens and Winston Salem, welcoming anyone willing to embrace 220 00:17:52.640 --> 00:17:57.920 just the atmosphere inside within its walls, a disturbing scene unfolded as people were 221 00:17:59.000 --> 00:18:04.039 encouraged to partake and acts of self harm, animal sacrifices, animal sacrifices, 222 00:18:04.119 --> 00:18:10.519 well, we are Satanists to Leah, that's not necessary. And drug abuse. 223 00:18:11.319 --> 00:18:15.240 And I'll just tell you there is a video that we'll post in our 224 00:18:15.240 --> 00:18:18.519 show notes that you could go to. Like the police go through this house, 225 00:18:18.039 --> 00:18:22.200 there's just stuff written on the walls, ceilings, Like the house looks 226 00:18:22.240 --> 00:18:27.960 like there's just garbage everywhere. It's it's disgusting, like some sort of home, 227 00:18:29.240 --> 00:18:32.960 like a hoard or like a hoarding situation. You know, you sometimes 228 00:18:32.960 --> 00:18:37.880 see people that suffer from like that affliction that their house is just filled with 229 00:18:37.920 --> 00:18:42.240 garbage and like the rooms are just everything's in disarray. And Cynthia is still 230 00:18:42.279 --> 00:18:47.000 living in this house. Everyone, so there is one room in the house. 231 00:18:47.160 --> 00:18:52.039 I mean, I'm believing it's her bedroom that while it's still kind of 232 00:18:52.160 --> 00:18:56.000 messy, it's not filled with garbage and doesn't have shit sprayed on the walls. 233 00:18:56.240 --> 00:19:00.680 Yeah, exactly right, Like that's the one place in this house. 234 00:19:00.720 --> 00:19:03.359 Like it's just terrible. The house ended up having to be condemned, and 235 00:19:03.359 --> 00:19:07.480 I'll get into it later, but boiler alert. Yeah, several large dogs 236 00:19:07.559 --> 00:19:12.920 roamed freely inside the house, which they were allowed to just ship and piss 237 00:19:12.960 --> 00:19:15.440 anywhere they want. I'm guessing, I don't know. No, you're right, 238 00:19:15.519 --> 00:19:19.319 You're absolutely right. So it's just the stench in the house is horrendous 239 00:19:19.400 --> 00:19:25.559 as you can imagine. There's human waste everywhere. What I guess. People 240 00:19:25.559 --> 00:19:26.799 couldn't make it to the bathroom. The bathroom's a mess too, by the 241 00:19:26.799 --> 00:19:33.279 way, I know. It's fucking discussing pole shitting in the house. Yes, 242 00:19:33.799 --> 00:19:37.519 just pissing everywhere, I guess, and satanic symbols and pentagrams were spray 243 00:19:37.519 --> 00:19:42.039 painted on the walls. In addition to like the graffiti I described, there 244 00:19:42.039 --> 00:19:48.240 were dead animals scattered in the trash, in the in the in the in 245 00:19:48.319 --> 00:19:52.759 the rooms. So gross, I know, I can't it's it's more. 246 00:19:52.880 --> 00:19:59.119 It's more than gross. Yeah. Bloodstained, Yes, it's it's I can't 247 00:19:59.119 --> 00:20:02.359 even. I can't even. But like I said, there's bloodstains on the 248 00:20:02.359 --> 00:20:08.640 walls. I mean, this house was just dilapidated at this point. There 249 00:20:08.640 --> 00:20:15.160 were swords in the main living area. I don't know why they were like 250 00:20:15.200 --> 00:20:19.200 decorations on the walls or if they just were like leaning up against the walls. 251 00:20:19.240 --> 00:20:25.720 But that just led our that just added to the atmosphere. In the 252 00:20:25.759 --> 00:20:29.640 backyard, there was a dead cat that hung from a tree that it was 253 00:20:29.640 --> 00:20:33.039 there for months. I know that makes me very angry. I know, 254 00:20:33.160 --> 00:20:38.119 it makes me fucking pissed, I know. And that's not I mean, 255 00:20:38.359 --> 00:20:42.519 what do you do if you're the neighbor and this is like a house in 256 00:20:42.559 --> 00:20:47.480 the suburbs, like and in a residential street. It's not like it's a 257 00:20:47.519 --> 00:20:52.160 standalone they have neighbors. I mean, I hate this guy already, don't 258 00:20:52.160 --> 00:20:56.319 hang out. I can't imagine like being a neighbor and like, oh no, 259 00:20:56.319 --> 00:20:57.200 no, I would do something about it, I know, right, 260 00:20:57.279 --> 00:21:02.000 and I'd probably get hurt, right, But I don't know. That's pretty 261 00:21:02.039 --> 00:21:04.920 kind of scary. I don't know if I would I get that cat down 262 00:21:06.039 --> 00:21:11.000 anyway. Anyway, Around this time, too, Pazuzu started using metha and 263 00:21:11.279 --> 00:21:18.319 methamphetamines, which fuel just adderall or no. I think it's like I think 264 00:21:18.319 --> 00:21:23.160 it's like street math, crystal math, yeah, crystal math okay, and 265 00:21:25.000 --> 00:21:32.759 anthetamines yeah. And so under this influence he went underwent just a grotesque transformation, 266 00:21:32.960 --> 00:21:37.039 as if this wasn't gross enough. How can we get worse? How 267 00:21:37.079 --> 00:21:41.640 did it get worse? Okay, he's worse, it gets it gets worse. 268 00:21:41.480 --> 00:21:47.240 He used a file and a dremal. I don't know what that is. 269 00:21:47.519 --> 00:21:49.839 It's like a little drill, like a hand drill. I don't want 270 00:21:49.839 --> 00:21:56.720 to know what you're gonna say. Well, he sharpens his teeth into points. 271 00:21:57.240 --> 00:22:03.559 I yeah, his as I mentioned. His personal hygiene was horribly. 272 00:22:03.680 --> 00:22:08.599 He bathed only once a year, and he never brushed his teeth. Oh 273 00:22:08.640 --> 00:22:15.160 no, yeah, he said. He justified it by saying that bathing and 274 00:22:15.160 --> 00:22:19.240 brushing your teeth strips the body of its defenses and wording off infection and illness. 275 00:22:19.440 --> 00:22:22.079 Okay, he must be a scientist, yes, actor, I mean, 276 00:22:22.119 --> 00:22:26.240 I would think he would add to it than I do. He's building 277 00:22:26.319 --> 00:22:30.519 up his immune system to lea by you know that way, he doesn't need 278 00:22:30.799 --> 00:22:33.680 anything, right, all right, I guess he never read the report about 279 00:22:33.759 --> 00:22:37.000 you know, plaque on your teeth getting to your heart. But okay, 280 00:22:37.039 --> 00:22:45.119 anyway, anyway, not laughing, No, this is not a funny story, 281 00:22:45.759 --> 00:22:48.559 ass wipe. So I'm sorry. I can't help but make fun of 282 00:22:48.599 --> 00:22:51.519 him because he can make fun of him, because he's the asshole. Yes 283 00:22:51.839 --> 00:22:57.319 he is. Pazuso sought attention through these shocking acts, obviously, Like one 284 00:22:57.319 --> 00:23:03.640 of the things he did was he he smeared blood on his face and it 285 00:23:03.680 --> 00:23:07.400 was rabbit's blood. Why he behaved, I don't know, because he's like, 286 00:23:07.440 --> 00:23:11.119 I'm so fucking cool. I don't know he's smeared or excuse me. 287 00:23:11.400 --> 00:23:18.160 He behaved inappropriately with women who visited his home. He acted like a predator, 288 00:23:18.279 --> 00:23:25.440 trying to pressure women into sexual situations. He exposed himself without their consent. 289 00:23:26.160 --> 00:23:29.720 Okay, Well, any woman that's walking into this house with human shit 290 00:23:29.880 --> 00:23:36.759 and dog shit and pissed and satan satanic satanic symbols hanging out with the guy 291 00:23:36.920 --> 00:23:41.039 was brushed teeth in a fucking ear. Probably, I mean, she deserves 292 00:23:41.039 --> 00:23:44.160 it. To me, I shouldn't deserve it. But I mean I would 293 00:23:44.319 --> 00:23:47.799 expect him not to be the best host. That's true. That is true. 294 00:23:47.799 --> 00:23:52.640 You've got a point there, right right, Yeah, he's anyway. 295 00:23:52.680 --> 00:23:56.240 He also began to claim that he could control the weather. Oh you know, 296 00:23:56.640 --> 00:24:02.279 okay, really okay, okay, I wish I could control the weather. 297 00:24:02.279 --> 00:24:08.240 Every day would be sunshine and seventy two. Despite rumors Pazuzu didn't have 298 00:24:08.279 --> 00:24:12.559 a split tongue, because I did think, like before I started doing the 299 00:24:12.640 --> 00:24:15.079 story, I kind of was like, oh yeah, I kind of know 300 00:24:15.119 --> 00:24:18.559 that story. He's got like a split tongue, like he cut his tongue, 301 00:24:18.599 --> 00:24:22.839 but he didn't. That was one thing that I couldn't handle that. 302 00:24:22.160 --> 00:24:27.559 So, yeah, he started proclaiming that he was the Guardian of Hell, 303 00:24:27.920 --> 00:24:33.839 oh, hoping to strike fear into people. The Guardian of Hell self proclaimed, 304 00:24:33.000 --> 00:24:37.160 you know, Satan de Deck did not ordain him that. He just 305 00:24:37.200 --> 00:24:41.000 decided, I'm the Guardian of Hell, the Guardian of Hell. Okay, 306 00:24:41.599 --> 00:24:48.519 So Pazuza was able to maintain relationships with three women. Three women fell for 307 00:24:48.599 --> 00:24:52.039 this oh okay lord that he referred and he referred to all of them as 308 00:24:52.079 --> 00:24:59.440 his fiancees. Amber Birch, Crystal Mattlock, and Dixie Ross. All of 309 00:24:59.440 --> 00:25:04.680 these women exhibited the same beliefs on hygiene and Satanism as Pazuzu. Wow. 310 00:25:06.000 --> 00:25:11.119 Yeah, and within the house, Pazuza tried to rule as a twisted patriarchy. 311 00:25:11.839 --> 00:25:15.519 You know, did he have them all at once or I don't think 312 00:25:15.599 --> 00:25:21.319 so. I are they overlapped lamped? Yeah, laughing? Yeah, So 313 00:25:21.359 --> 00:25:22.599 he's trying to rule this as like a dictator. I think he's trying to 314 00:25:22.599 --> 00:25:29.000 turn it into a cult. Okay, okay. And you know, they 315 00:25:29.079 --> 00:25:33.319 had frequent visitors to the home, like people that you know, he had 316 00:25:33.359 --> 00:25:37.759 friends, but there was also people like in the community. It would stop 317 00:25:37.839 --> 00:25:40.319 by, I would hear about, like there's because there's always a party or 318 00:25:41.119 --> 00:25:45.319 drugs at this house, you know. And one such a visitor was a 319 00:25:45.359 --> 00:25:51.799 man named Josh Frederick Waltzer. Josh was originally from West Virginia. He met 320 00:25:51.799 --> 00:25:56.200 his girlfriend Stacy Carter in nineteen ninety nine, and the two eventually had a 321 00:25:56.240 --> 00:26:00.519 son, Jared, who was born in two thousand and five. Financial troubles 322 00:26:00.559 --> 00:26:06.359 plagued this couple and after a year together, just after a year together, 323 00:26:06.799 --> 00:26:11.599 and that leaded to difficulties with mortgage payments on their farm, and the farm 324 00:26:11.640 --> 00:26:18.319 eventually fell into They and the farm went into foreclosure. To alleviate their financial 325 00:26:18.319 --> 00:26:22.400 stress, Josh gets the idea that he's going to sell drugs. Stacy opposed 326 00:26:22.480 --> 00:26:29.160 this idea, especially they have this baby, right to this little She was 327 00:26:29.240 --> 00:26:34.680 adamant in keeping their lives drug free, even when it came to substances that 328 00:26:34.759 --> 00:26:38.279 Josh thought was acceptable, like weed and mushrooms. She's like, there's gonna 329 00:26:38.279 --> 00:26:42.640 be no drugs in this house. But despite Stacy's objections, Josh began dealing 330 00:26:42.720 --> 00:26:48.519 drugs to make money, which ultimately led to Stacy leaving him with their young 331 00:26:48.599 --> 00:26:52.839 son. So there's one day, Yeah they get caught. She's gonna like, 332 00:26:55.599 --> 00:27:00.359 right worth the risk? Yeah exactly. Josh left that home that he 333 00:27:00.440 --> 00:27:04.839 shared with Stacy and their son, and he began to live in a secluded 334 00:27:04.880 --> 00:27:10.640 trailer in the woods in Maxville, North Carolina, which is close by to 335 00:27:10.799 --> 00:27:15.920 where I'm talking about. Harry lived alone and turned to selling weed and mushrooms 336 00:27:15.960 --> 00:27:19.079 to make ends meet. He also started a business in which he performed hoof 337 00:27:19.240 --> 00:27:25.039 trimmings for horses and cows on neighboring farms. I mean that's a living, 338 00:27:25.119 --> 00:27:29.039 right, Yeah, I made twenty seventh, two thousand and eight, Josh's 339 00:27:29.039 --> 00:27:34.039 world changed when the police raided his home. During the raid, officers uncovered 340 00:27:34.039 --> 00:27:40.920 a package labeled for mail containing mushrooms, which made this a felony due to 341 00:27:40.960 --> 00:27:44.440 the involvement of the postal service. Oh shit, he had the shit mail 342 00:27:44.519 --> 00:27:47.480 to him. M hm, you know, no, he was going to 343 00:27:47.559 --> 00:27:51.440 mail it out. Oh, so it's distributing illegal substances through the mail, 344 00:27:51.799 --> 00:27:55.519 which is a felony. On February twenty third, two thousand and nine. 345 00:27:55.599 --> 00:27:59.839 But he didn't do it. But he did. Oh but did he actually 346 00:28:00.079 --> 00:28:02.240 put it in the mail? No, well he didn't place it in the 347 00:28:02.240 --> 00:28:03.640 mail. It was a package that they found. Oh, you're right, 348 00:28:03.799 --> 00:28:07.240 he didn't do it. Spoken like a true defense line a lawyer. He 349 00:28:07.319 --> 00:28:11.359 didn't do it. He was just joking. Yeah, I mean, you 350 00:28:11.400 --> 00:28:15.079 know, I just was enjoying making packages that looked like they were going to 351 00:28:15.119 --> 00:28:18.480 go in the right right. I didn't have anything better to do, right, 352 00:28:18.720 --> 00:28:22.079 Yeah, that's what I well. Unfortunately, he was convicted of felony 353 00:28:22.160 --> 00:28:27.039 drug charges on February twenty third, two thousand and nine. Though he was 354 00:28:27.079 --> 00:28:33.960 swiftly released from jail, Josh struggled to regain employment with a felony conviction. 355 00:28:33.079 --> 00:28:37.920 Yeah, that's hard on his record. He did begin to spend a little 356 00:28:37.960 --> 00:28:41.279 more time with Stacy and their son in an attempt to get back on his 357 00:28:41.279 --> 00:28:42.839 feet, like I need to, you know, get my life together. 358 00:28:42.880 --> 00:28:47.720 I need to get my shit together. However, the drug scene just proved 359 00:28:47.839 --> 00:28:52.920 too tempting to resist and it pulled him back into his former lifestyle. By 360 00:28:52.000 --> 00:28:56.559 mid two thousand and nine, Josh's life had just now spiraled out of control, 361 00:28:56.839 --> 00:29:03.480 leaving him homeless. It was during this time that Josh this path crossed 362 00:29:04.079 --> 00:29:11.200 with Pazuzu. Pazuzu allowed the now homeless Josh to stay at his home. 363 00:29:11.279 --> 00:29:15.720 So Josh now has somewhere to go. I'd rather be homeless than stay at 364 00:29:15.400 --> 00:29:21.480 house, I guess. Little did he know that this chance meeting would just 365 00:29:21.519 --> 00:29:26.119 set off a series of events that would ultimately lead to a great tragedy. 366 00:29:27.160 --> 00:29:33.720 In mid July two thousand and nine, about a month after Josh moved into 367 00:29:33.799 --> 00:29:40.559 Pazuzu's home, a really unsettling thing happened. Pazuzu and his friends trapped Josh 368 00:29:40.599 --> 00:29:48.559 in the basement, subjecting him to days of starvation and torture. Pazuzu bragged 369 00:29:48.559 --> 00:29:52.880 to visitors of the house about how he had somebody locked in the basement in 370 00:29:52.880 --> 00:29:59.720 the basement, locked up in theron, and he warned everyone, you know, 371 00:30:00.119 --> 00:30:03.279 you're not allowed to let him go, so don't let him escape. 372 00:30:06.359 --> 00:30:10.680 What did they do to him? Nature exactly how they tortured him, But 373 00:30:10.720 --> 00:30:15.599 they definitely starved him and after days of suffering, it sucks. Josh meant 374 00:30:15.640 --> 00:30:19.480 a gruesome end when Pazuzu shot him in the head with a twenty two caliber 375 00:30:19.599 --> 00:30:25.519 rifle. The sound of the gunshot spread throughout the house and caught the attention 376 00:30:25.599 --> 00:30:29.880 of Cynthia. His mom is home, y'all. Who did she didn't know 377 00:30:29.880 --> 00:30:32.720 about the guy in the basement, I know, right, I think she 378 00:30:32.799 --> 00:30:34.559 probably just stayed in her room. I think she just stayed in her room. 379 00:30:34.720 --> 00:30:38.279 Obviously, I understand this clean room. So she getting ready for work, 380 00:30:38.319 --> 00:30:42.200 and she hears this gunshot. So she goes to the basement where she 381 00:30:42.440 --> 00:30:49.000 finds Pazuzu holding the rifle, and she sees Josh's lifeless body on the floor. 382 00:30:49.920 --> 00:30:53.079 And even though she's not a stupid woman, she can put two and 383 00:30:53.119 --> 00:30:57.599 two together. She knew what had just happened. She went back upstairs and 384 00:30:57.640 --> 00:31:02.880 continued to get ready for work, and she left the house shortly thereafter. 385 00:31:03.240 --> 00:31:06.880 She didn't mind part of it. No, she didn't have a bitch called 386 00:31:06.960 --> 00:31:11.319 nine one one. No, exactly right. I don't know. I don't 387 00:31:11.319 --> 00:31:15.920 know what's going on here. Who knows. Pazus's brutality didn't stop with that 388 00:31:15.000 --> 00:31:21.200 initial gun shot. After his mom left, he fired two more shots into 389 00:31:21.279 --> 00:31:26.200 Josh's head and multiple times into his torso just for shits and giggles. No, 390 00:31:26.319 --> 00:31:29.279 I think probably just to see what would happen like, that's my guess. 391 00:31:29.480 --> 00:31:33.559 That's horrible. Yeah. Rumors speculated that Pezzuzu attempted to dismember Josh, 392 00:31:34.079 --> 00:31:40.599 but that was believed to be a tail concocted by Pezzuzu himself, just to 393 00:31:40.599 --> 00:31:44.119 make it all seem cooler. Yeah, I guess cooler. It's horrible, 394 00:31:44.440 --> 00:31:48.720 I know. On July twenty sixth, two thousand and nine, while Josh 395 00:31:48.839 --> 00:31:55.400 was being held and tortured, his nineteen eighty nine Buicklist Saber was found illegally 396 00:31:55.480 --> 00:32:00.799 parked and abandoned at the John Arch Apartments in Winston Salem. So he wasn't 397 00:32:00.839 --> 00:32:04.839 dead yet. No. The keys were left in the ignition and the driver's 398 00:32:05.079 --> 00:32:08.960 window was rolled down. Although the circumstances in which the car was found seemed 399 00:32:09.000 --> 00:32:14.880 suspicious, the police didn't take any action and assumed that Josh had just left 400 00:32:14.960 --> 00:32:22.200 town to avoid probation like meeting with his probation officer. No investigation was launched 401 00:32:22.240 --> 00:32:28.039 into the abandoned vehicle or Josh's whereabouts as a missing person. And he is 402 00:32:28.759 --> 00:32:31.440 missing at this point, like his stacy has. Somebody in his family has 403 00:32:31.480 --> 00:32:37.279 reported him missing. There's a warrant, right right, yeah, probably, 404 00:32:37.680 --> 00:32:40.759 well he's got a probation officer, parole if he's a fallon, Yeah, 405 00:32:42.079 --> 00:32:45.039 parole officer. Yeah, you're right, it's probably a parole officer. And 406 00:32:45.079 --> 00:32:49.279 so I don't know who reported him missing, but someone did. Okay, 407 00:32:50.279 --> 00:32:53.640 So now fast forward now where Josh is laying on the basement floor. His 408 00:32:53.720 --> 00:33:00.720 body remained in Pezuza's basement for several days while passus Zoo contemplated what his next 409 00:33:00.720 --> 00:33:06.640 move was going to be. To tide the odor of the corpse, Pazuzu 410 00:33:06.720 --> 00:33:14.759 poured cat litter and chlorine over Josh's body. Eventually, with the assistance of 411 00:33:15.000 --> 00:33:20.200 accomplices Amber Birch in Crystal Matlock. Those are two of his girlfriends, his 412 00:33:20.319 --> 00:33:25.119 fiancees. Excuse me, Josh, excuse me. Pazuzu buried Josh's remains in 413 00:33:25.160 --> 00:33:30.279 the backyard. The backyard, I mean, the neighbors don't see this. 414 00:33:30.359 --> 00:33:34.920 But whatever they happen a middle night, probably I don't know. Disturbingly, 415 00:33:35.079 --> 00:33:42.160 Crystal boasted about her involvement in Josh's starvation and burial to anyone who would listen. 416 00:33:42.359 --> 00:33:45.839 That makes me so angry now, I'm so angry right now. Oh 417 00:33:45.920 --> 00:33:51.480 yeah, she took pleasure in like telling the story, which you know is 418 00:33:51.519 --> 00:33:57.119 scarring other people. Like what and I bet she smiled as she recounted the 419 00:33:57.160 --> 00:34:00.839 grizzly details of the murder. I mean, did a lot of fucked up 420 00:34:00.920 --> 00:34:06.160 shit. I'm sure they did, But we don't need to talk, not 421 00:34:06.279 --> 00:34:10.039 yet, No, not at all. Both Amber and Pezuzu also told the 422 00:34:10.119 --> 00:34:15.639 story of Josh's murder with others at the house, bragging to make sure that 423 00:34:15.679 --> 00:34:21.360 everyone knew what happened to Josh. Why I don't like you said to seem 424 00:34:21.440 --> 00:34:23.840 cooler. I don't know. I if someone I don't know. You know, 425 00:34:23.920 --> 00:34:28.519 we tell these stories sometimes, t LEA, and sometimes it's like a 426 00:34:28.559 --> 00:34:31.079 group mentality, because we've told stories about people being murdered by like a group 427 00:34:31.119 --> 00:34:35.679 of people, and I'm always like, what would I do in that situation? 428 00:34:35.719 --> 00:34:38.320 You think you would like run to the police, right, yeah, 429 00:34:38.800 --> 00:34:42.840 go along with it, and you do something you wouldn't normally do. Yeah, 430 00:34:42.880 --> 00:34:45.840 everybody else's right, So then I'm thinking, is that what's happening? 431 00:34:45.840 --> 00:34:49.639 To people that are hearing the story in the house. Are they just like 432 00:34:49.800 --> 00:34:54.920 listening and deciding either is it bullshit? Is it real? Or are they 433 00:34:55.000 --> 00:34:59.320 just high on crystal math and don't give a fuck. That could be it, 434 00:34:59.400 --> 00:35:04.719 That could be it. I don't know. But on August third, 435 00:35:05.119 --> 00:35:08.159 this is just like a short few days from when this all happened, a 436 00:35:08.199 --> 00:35:15.800 neighbor went to the sheriff's office and reported that she had heard that Pazuzu killed 437 00:35:15.840 --> 00:35:20.280 a man and buried him in the backyard. Acting on this tip, the 438 00:35:20.320 --> 00:35:25.039 police visited Pazzuza's house the next day, August fourth. Only one unit was 439 00:35:25.119 --> 00:35:30.719 dispatched, and the officer just simply knocked on the door and asked Pazuzu if 440 00:35:30.760 --> 00:35:35.119 he had killed someone and buried them in the backyard. They probably didn't want 441 00:35:35.119 --> 00:35:39.239 to go in that house. He's probably like fuck this man, Like no, 442 00:35:39.400 --> 00:35:45.360 no, stupid, Yeah, I would never do that. I mean, 443 00:35:45.360 --> 00:35:47.719 can you okay, I'm the guardian of hell, I'm too busy, 444 00:35:49.639 --> 00:35:52.679 and you're gonna see a picture of this guy. Now, this guy opens 445 00:35:52.719 --> 00:35:55.239 the door and you're the police officer. I would be like, can you 446 00:35:55.239 --> 00:36:00.000 see inside the house? And I don't know we're good here. Yeah, 447 00:36:00.159 --> 00:36:06.800 and so without further investigation, the officer laughed, that's shitty. Nearly two 448 00:36:06.840 --> 00:36:09.880 months later, on September twenty fourth, two thousand and nine, the police 449 00:36:09.920 --> 00:36:16.800 received another tip from an anonymous caller, once again alleging that Pazzuzu had killed 450 00:36:16.800 --> 00:36:22.320 a man and buried him in the backyard. However, authorities this time didn't 451 00:36:22.360 --> 00:36:29.079 send anyone to follow up. I think we've already heard that story, yeah, 452 00:36:29.119 --> 00:36:31.960 and we've checked that out. There's you're going to be mad. Oh, 453 00:36:32.039 --> 00:36:35.679 I already am mad. You're going to be mad at the police though, 454 00:36:35.800 --> 00:36:37.000 Okay, I don't like to be mad at the police. I know 455 00:36:37.159 --> 00:36:39.360 me either, But you're gonna be mad at the police. Wutting. This 456 00:36:39.400 --> 00:36:44.079 story's over. So they don't send anyone out to investigate this tip because, 457 00:36:44.239 --> 00:36:45.480 like we asked him, he said he didn't do it. He did end 458 00:36:45.480 --> 00:36:50.119 a story, right right? Why would he lie? Why would he lie? 459 00:36:51.039 --> 00:36:55.079 On October three, two thousand and nine, Pazuzu and Amber came across 460 00:36:55.119 --> 00:37:00.360 a man named Tommy Dean Welch, who had left his brother's home in the 461 00:37:00.400 --> 00:37:06.360 Colonial Arms apartment complex and began walking a ten mile trip back to his own 462 00:37:06.400 --> 00:37:10.039 home. It's a long walk. It is a long walk. Surveillance footage 463 00:37:10.039 --> 00:37:16.880 from a Circle K station captured Tommy walking through a supermarket parking lot around seven 464 00:37:17.000 --> 00:37:22.320 twenty eight pm that day, making this the last time he was seen alive 465 00:37:22.440 --> 00:37:28.320 on camera. Pezuzu and Amber stopped when they saw him, and they invited 466 00:37:28.400 --> 00:37:30.079 him to a party at their house, which was just a bruise. They 467 00:37:30.119 --> 00:37:35.800 just wanted to get him in the car, so despite being strangers to him, 468 00:37:35.920 --> 00:37:39.320 Tommy accepted the invitation and he went with them to Pezuzu's house like we're 469 00:37:39.320 --> 00:37:43.000 also I got to do. Yeah, And they get in the house. 470 00:37:43.039 --> 00:37:46.679 They they're in the living room, they start drinking, and for no specific 471 00:37:46.719 --> 00:37:52.679 reason, Amber retrieved a twenty two rifle from Pezuza's room and, without warning, 472 00:37:53.320 --> 00:37:58.320 shot Tommy in the back of the head while he was talking to Pezuzu. 473 00:37:58.960 --> 00:38:02.800 Amber did, Amber did? Amber did Yep. Cynthia entered the room 474 00:38:02.920 --> 00:38:08.239 upon hearing the gunshot. She's like again again only yeah, only to be 475 00:38:09.000 --> 00:38:14.639 faced with the sight now of Tommy laying on the floor bleeding. That's horrible, 476 00:38:14.760 --> 00:38:19.320 and she quickly left the room retreated to her bedroom without intervening again. 477 00:38:19.760 --> 00:38:22.000 Like I said, Like you said, she probably just stayed in her room 478 00:38:22.000 --> 00:38:27.800 on her own business mind, in her own business. Enraged, Pazuzu knocked 479 00:38:27.800 --> 00:38:31.079 Tommy's body to the floor and proceeded to jump up and down on his chest, 480 00:38:32.199 --> 00:38:40.079 shouting obscenities. In his frenzy, Pazuzu accidentally rolled his ankle, nearly 481 00:38:40.159 --> 00:38:46.679 breaking it while he was jumping up and down. Karma, Yeah, unable. 482 00:38:46.960 --> 00:38:51.679 Is this horrible? Why are these? This is like no reason. 483 00:38:52.000 --> 00:38:58.039 So now Pazuzu with his ankle all messed up, he can't bury Tommy himself. 484 00:38:58.639 --> 00:39:02.559 So he tells amber In Dick see that they sixty is the third fiance. 485 00:39:04.280 --> 00:39:10.119 Okay, okay, so they're all living together. Apparently they you know, 486 00:39:10.159 --> 00:39:14.400 he tells them, you need to take care of Tommy's body. So 487 00:39:14.440 --> 00:39:20.079 they lazily attempt to break Tommy's arms and legs with a shovel to have to 488 00:39:20.239 --> 00:39:25.239 avoid digging a larger hole in the bathroom. They think like they're gonna him 489 00:39:25.280 --> 00:39:31.920 into a smaller mass. I guess they got tired though, of digging a 490 00:39:32.039 --> 00:39:36.760 large enough hole in the yard, and they buried Tommy, leaving his knee 491 00:39:37.079 --> 00:39:40.000 and half of his head exposed. What and they just decided to just cover 492 00:39:40.079 --> 00:39:43.800 him with a tarp and just that was it. We're good, Yeah, 493 00:39:43.840 --> 00:39:49.159 we're good. That's because they're all on drugs. Just a few days after 494 00:39:49.199 --> 00:39:54.079 Tommy's murder, on October fourth, his mon Charlotte reported him missing to authorities, 495 00:39:54.119 --> 00:39:58.000 and she expressed just a deep concern because she's like, it's just not 496 00:39:58.119 --> 00:40:01.719 like him to disappear. So he was loved and missed by people. Yeah. 497 00:40:01.719 --> 00:40:07.719 Absolutely. And similarly, in February of twenty ten, Josh's ex wife 498 00:40:07.760 --> 00:40:10.679 Stacy went to police to report him missing. She claimed, you know, 499 00:40:12.119 --> 00:40:16.159 she was reallyant hesitant to report him missing, thinking that maybe he was hiding 500 00:40:16.159 --> 00:40:19.440 from the police, like, you know, we mentioned that he but it's 501 00:40:19.480 --> 00:40:22.079 been a long time now. Yeah, So she eventually came forward after she 502 00:40:22.199 --> 00:40:28.159 heard rumors that Pazuzu had murdered him and buried him in the backyard. I 503 00:40:28.159 --> 00:40:30.760 don't know how this is getting out. Well, he didn't shut his mouth 504 00:40:30.840 --> 00:40:35.320 up about it, that's true either, did his little lady friends. Yeah, 505 00:40:35.320 --> 00:40:37.239 that's true. And then all the other people and people, and then 506 00:40:37.239 --> 00:40:40.960 they tell people and they tell people, Oh, that'd be horrible. Someone 507 00:40:42.000 --> 00:40:46.000 I love might be buried in a backyard. A freak. I know. 508 00:40:46.360 --> 00:40:52.440 By February twenty third, twenty ten, Stacy grew increasingly alarmed by Josh's prolonged 509 00:40:52.480 --> 00:40:55.679 absence, particularly due to his lack of communication with her and their son. 510 00:40:55.760 --> 00:41:00.400 Yeah they have a son. Yeah. She returned to the police, urging 511 00:41:00.440 --> 00:41:06.119 them please take action, which led to the execution of a search warrant. 512 00:41:06.760 --> 00:41:09.320 Oh, Laura, I'm Pezu's house. Oh boy, I don't even want 513 00:41:09.320 --> 00:41:13.239 to know. What was this shit they found? Literally the shit they found, 514 00:41:13.960 --> 00:41:16.159 but it yielded no evidence of a crime, so I don't think it. 515 00:41:16.199 --> 00:41:22.320 They didn't look very hard, what, leaving Stacy frustrated and puzzled by 516 00:41:22.360 --> 00:41:24.920 the lack of progress. Isn't it tarp in the backyard? Wasn't it? 517 00:41:27.239 --> 00:41:30.000 You think the backyard would be included. I don't know what happened. I 518 00:41:30.000 --> 00:41:34.719 don't know where the breakdown happened. I'm just telling you, Okay, nothing 519 00:41:34.760 --> 00:41:38.440 came of it, Okay. I May twenty eight, twenty ten, Pazuzu 520 00:41:38.519 --> 00:41:44.760 faced legal trouble once again when he was arrested for choking his mom, Cynthia. 521 00:41:45.000 --> 00:41:46.920 Oh, that son of a bitch. Yeah. She decided to press 522 00:41:47.000 --> 00:41:53.000 charges for domestic assault, but ultimately she chose to drop the charges, allowing 523 00:41:53.079 --> 00:41:58.159 him to avoid accountability for his actions, and when the charges were dismissed, 524 00:41:58.159 --> 00:42:04.360 he was able to just walk away and clear. About a week later, 525 00:42:04.840 --> 00:42:12.000 on June sixth, Pazuzu and his friend twenty year old Nicholas Pascal Rizzi encountered 526 00:42:12.079 --> 00:42:17.199 thirty year old Joseph Enrich Chandler, who was a legally blind man, outside 527 00:42:17.199 --> 00:42:24.280 of a gas station. He was approached by Pazuzu and Rizzi, who were 528 00:42:24.320 --> 00:42:31.239 actively searching for a victim. Seizing the opportunity, they offered Chandler a ride. 529 00:42:31.519 --> 00:42:36.519 Despite being strangers to him, he accepted it. The three traveled to 530 00:42:36.599 --> 00:42:43.320 a secluded boat ramp at a park near the Yadkin River. Once there, 531 00:42:43.440 --> 00:42:47.239 Pazuzu stayed on the river bank while Chandler and Rizzi stood on the ramp. 532 00:42:49.400 --> 00:42:53.239 While Chandler attempted to light a cigarette, Rizzy suddenly shot him in the back 533 00:42:53.280 --> 00:42:59.159 of the head with a pistol, and the motive remains unclear. They're just 534 00:42:59.239 --> 00:43:04.239 chilling, yeah, shoots and giggles. After murdering Chandler, Pazuzu and Rizzi 535 00:43:04.360 --> 00:43:07.599 left the body on the boat ramp. The following morning, on June seventh 536 00:43:07.920 --> 00:43:15.360 City maintenance workers made the grim discovery. They didn't even try to fight it. 537 00:43:15.599 --> 00:43:17.559 Can they just thrown them in the water out something? I mean something. 538 00:43:17.599 --> 00:43:21.440 I mean, it's a good idea. I'm just saying that. I 539 00:43:21.519 --> 00:43:23.360 know. No, they didn't. They just that just goes to show you 540 00:43:23.840 --> 00:43:28.760 they don't give up. No, they don't, not at all. Despite 541 00:43:28.840 --> 00:43:32.480 Rizzy's involvement in the death of Joseph Chandler, he was allowed to remain in 542 00:43:32.599 --> 00:43:37.679 Pezzuzu's home. I mean, why not. Everybody's fucking killing everybody in this 543 00:43:37.760 --> 00:43:43.400 house? Who cares club. When authorities came to the house searching for Rizzi, 544 00:43:43.559 --> 00:43:46.920 Pezuzu lied to them, helping him stay out of trouble and the two. 545 00:43:47.719 --> 00:43:53.639 The two were eventually arrested for this crime. This is what begins the 546 00:43:53.679 --> 00:43:59.880 downfall. Finally, Okay, on October tenth, twenty ten, Pazzuzu faced 547 00:44:00.079 --> 00:44:05.920 charges of accessory after the fact of involuntary manslaughter. How did they find out? 548 00:44:06.599 --> 00:44:10.039 I'm not sure? Okay. Shockingly, he received a sentence of only 549 00:44:10.119 --> 00:44:15.559 five years probation. But yep, he never went to jail or he didn't 550 00:44:15.599 --> 00:44:19.360 kill him. Well, he was just there. Yes, the court accepted 551 00:44:19.400 --> 00:44:27.840 the fictitious explanation that Chandler's death was an accident from a nighttime target shooting session. 552 00:44:28.159 --> 00:44:30.840 Because you're going to take a legally blind man out to a target shooting 553 00:44:31.039 --> 00:44:39.199 and a boat ramp. Oh okay. Pazuzu underwent a forensic psychiatric evaluation. 554 00:44:39.400 --> 00:44:43.000 Oh, I can't wait to hear what this says at a hospital in Raleigh. 555 00:44:43.400 --> 00:44:46.599 He acted timid and stated that he was afraid to be sent to prison. 556 00:44:47.079 --> 00:44:51.840 So scared. Yeah. Additionally, the psychiatrist noted that Pazuzu emitted a 557 00:44:51.880 --> 00:44:57.119 foul order indicative a boy or whatever. Yeah, he's still tured boy into 558 00:44:57.159 --> 00:45:04.119 adulthood. Meanwhile, Nicholas received comparatively short prison sentences. Oh yeah, yeah, 559 00:45:04.159 --> 00:45:08.599 Rizzy Sorryzzy Yeah. Rizzy received a comparatively short prison sentence of thirteen months 560 00:45:09.480 --> 00:45:16.239 with credit for time already served. Now, the legal trouble doesn't end, 561 00:45:16.519 --> 00:45:23.559 because on August twenty third, twenty eleven, Pazuza faced legal trouble being charged 562 00:45:23.599 --> 00:45:29.960 with misdemeanor of assault and a woman, consequently an additional twelve months of probation. 563 00:45:30.119 --> 00:45:32.119 Who was the woman? I don't know, girl, I knew? 564 00:45:32.280 --> 00:45:43.079 Yeah, I'm curious me questions wha we should not record this early in the 565 00:45:43.079 --> 00:45:46.760 morning. We are a little bitchy in the morning. So he instead of 566 00:45:47.079 --> 00:45:52.000 you know, the police or the court suspensions aids the police, instead of 567 00:45:52.000 --> 00:45:54.360 the court system giving him something more serious, he just gets another year probation 568 00:45:54.679 --> 00:46:00.440 added to his five year probation sentence that he already has. Just a month 569 00:46:00.519 --> 00:46:05.760 later, on September twenty second, Amber Birch was arrested for assaulting Cynthia. 570 00:46:05.840 --> 00:46:09.480 Now both of them now have physically assaulted her. The charges against her included 571 00:46:09.760 --> 00:46:15.320 pushing, slapping, and choking Cynthia, resulting in a sentence of twelve months 572 00:46:15.360 --> 00:46:19.880 of probation. So Cynthia was being abused, Yeah, she was, and 573 00:46:19.920 --> 00:46:25.239 that's probably why she didn't go to the police. But on November eighth, 574 00:46:25.559 --> 00:46:30.280 she's had enough, okay, because she went to the police department to report 575 00:46:30.360 --> 00:46:36.599 that she had witnessed Amber kill Tommy Dean Welch back in two thousand and nine, 576 00:46:36.719 --> 00:46:39.079 a couple of years before. She informed the police that she had observed 577 00:46:39.199 --> 00:46:45.639 Amber commit the murder and even provided details about where Tommy's body was buried in 578 00:46:45.679 --> 00:46:54.000 the backyard. However, don't police took no action on Cynthia's report. They 579 00:46:54.039 --> 00:47:00.079 didn't visit the house or conduct any investigation into the matter. I don't understand 580 00:47:00.119 --> 00:47:04.480 this, but I don't either. In twenty twelve, an old friend of 581 00:47:04.559 --> 00:47:09.800 Pazzuzu's. His name's Matt Flowers. He returned home to Winston Salem after completing 582 00:47:09.800 --> 00:47:15.840 his service in the army. Matt was familiar with the happenings at Pezuzu's house, 583 00:47:15.920 --> 00:47:20.440 but he had joined the army to avoid getting entangled. Good for him, 584 00:47:20.679 --> 00:47:23.199 for him, and during a visit home on leave, he learned about 585 00:47:23.400 --> 00:47:28.559 the murder and the burial going on at the house and in the backyard. 586 00:47:29.400 --> 00:47:34.079 Intriguingly, the anonymous tip to the police in twenty ten that had been Matt 587 00:47:34.159 --> 00:47:37.800 Flowers. That was him, Yeah for him, And before he exited the 588 00:47:37.920 --> 00:47:45.000 army, Pazuzu discovered that Matt had made this anonymous report. Yeah. In 589 00:47:45.039 --> 00:47:50.960 a confrontation in twenty twelve, Pazuzu confronted Matt at his house, admitting he 590 00:47:51.079 --> 00:47:55.599 knew about Matt's role and the tip off. Pazuzu casually skewered a random piece 591 00:47:55.639 --> 00:48:01.039 of raw meat with a fireplace poker and he ate it in front of Matt, 592 00:48:01.079 --> 00:48:07.599 and an attempt to intimidate him while claiming that Satan protects him. Okay, 593 00:48:07.599 --> 00:48:14.920 okay, and Matt was able to leave nothing further. Yeah, I 594 00:48:14.960 --> 00:48:17.320 know what the fuck I'm like, Can you imagine I'm just starting to eat 595 00:48:17.320 --> 00:48:22.000 some raw meat you? No, I really can't imagine you eating any raw 596 00:48:22.079 --> 00:48:30.440 meat except sushi. A few weeks later, Pazuzu was again acting abusive toward 597 00:48:30.480 --> 00:48:34.840 his mom and he was confronted by a new person at the house who stepped 598 00:48:34.840 --> 00:48:39.119 in to protect her. This angered Pazuzu because he was felt really threatened. 599 00:48:39.119 --> 00:48:44.159 The guy was big, and he felt threatened by his size, so a 600 00:48:44.159 --> 00:48:49.480 desperate attempt to maintain control, Pazuzu asked Matt to kill the new guy. 601 00:48:50.079 --> 00:48:52.360 I'd be like, what part of me tattling Anya? Did you not get? 602 00:48:52.480 --> 00:48:57.039 I know, I'm not going to kill nobody, come on, And 603 00:48:57.559 --> 00:49:00.440 this led to a fight in the kitchen, where Matt event actually knocked Pazuzu 604 00:49:00.599 --> 00:49:08.039 unconscious. God whoop. Later that night, Matt went to the police station 605 00:49:08.800 --> 00:49:15.920 to speak with a detective about rumors surrounding the men that were missing, and 606 00:49:15.000 --> 00:49:19.760 police are like, yeah, we've heard that. Please tell me they go 607 00:49:19.840 --> 00:49:22.960 out. Just can you just give me some relief? No, no, 608 00:49:22.159 --> 00:49:25.679 no, they still don't know. No, okay, they still don't. 609 00:49:27.880 --> 00:49:32.960 On August twenty second, twenty fourteen, another friend, Daniel Pitcher, went 610 00:49:34.000 --> 00:49:38.400 to police with information he got from Pazuzu. Daniel said Pezuzu confessed to him 611 00:49:38.400 --> 00:49:43.800 that he killed somebody and buried him in the backyard. Pazzuzu even showed Daniel 612 00:49:43.960 --> 00:49:47.960 where the body was buried, and Daniel drew a map for the police showing 613 00:49:49.000 --> 00:49:53.039 the spot. They better go out there, Tanya. Okay, okay, 614 00:49:53.039 --> 00:50:00.000 you just gotta end this. They still didn't do anything, so please. 615 00:50:00.239 --> 00:50:05.840 About a month later, this is really bearing on Matt's mind. He went 616 00:50:05.920 --> 00:50:08.440 back to the police, and Matt's the one that was in the army. 617 00:50:08.480 --> 00:50:13.760 This time, he implicated Amber and Dixie in the commission of the murders. 618 00:50:13.960 --> 00:50:17.119 He gave the police lots of details about where the bodies were buried, and 619 00:50:17.159 --> 00:50:22.519 he warned that if they didn't do something, he was going to take matters 620 00:50:22.559 --> 00:50:27.639 into his own hands. Oh he's just I'm sure his conscience was bothering him. 621 00:50:28.159 --> 00:50:35.119 Matt's presence finally paid off. Finally, finally, on October fifth, 622 00:50:35.239 --> 00:50:39.159 twenty fourteen, the police begin searching the property. And this is years later, 623 00:50:39.400 --> 00:50:44.719 it's about five years years. During the search, on October fifth, 624 00:50:44.800 --> 00:50:49.280 twenty fourteen, police made a chilling discovery. I mean, we know it's 625 00:50:49.320 --> 00:50:53.239 back there, right, there is a skeleton. They find a skeleton, 626 00:50:53.679 --> 00:51:00.800 and shortly after investigators found another body at the exact location marked on the map 627 00:51:00.840 --> 00:51:07.360 provided by Daniel months earlier. This led to the arrest of Pazuzu, aged 628 00:51:07.679 --> 00:51:13.440 thirty five, what and Amber, who was twenty four, in connection with 629 00:51:13.480 --> 00:51:17.760 the murders. The bodies were taken to Wake Forest Medical Center for further examination, 630 00:51:19.000 --> 00:51:24.159 revealing that both individuals had died from gunshot looms. On October thirteenth, 631 00:51:24.440 --> 00:51:30.559 they were identified as Waltzer and Welch, who had disappeared in two thousand and 632 00:51:30.599 --> 00:51:34.159 nine, as I mentioned, five years earlier. Following this discovery, the 633 00:51:34.199 --> 00:51:38.800 house was deemed uninhabitable and Cynthia was forced to leave condemned. Yeah, it 634 00:51:38.880 --> 00:51:44.360 was fucking mass You have to watch the video. On October seventh, twenty 635 00:51:44.400 --> 00:51:47.639 fifteen, the bank took over the house due to foreclosure and decided to tear 636 00:51:47.679 --> 00:51:52.280 it down. Neighbors came together to witness the demolition of the house of horrors 637 00:51:52.320 --> 00:51:59.559 that plagued their once happy neighborhood. On October twenty eighth, twenty fifteen, 638 00:52:00.119 --> 00:52:05.559 around four am, Pazuzu was found dead dead in his prison. I didn't 639 00:52:05.559 --> 00:52:10.480 expect that, No, from a serious self inflicted wound in the crease of 640 00:52:10.519 --> 00:52:15.360 his left arm. He was set to appear in court the following day, 641 00:52:15.440 --> 00:52:21.079 so he decided he wasn't going to do that. An inmate in the same 642 00:52:21.119 --> 00:52:27.159 prison said that Pazuzu was notably stressed and often cried because he was afraid of 643 00:52:27.360 --> 00:52:32.559 death by lethal injection. Composer coward. Yeah, such a big badass too, 644 00:52:32.639 --> 00:52:39.079 right. On March ninth, twenty seventeen, Amber pleaded guilty to second 645 00:52:39.079 --> 00:52:45.199 degree murder, armed robbery and accessory after the fact to murder. She got 646 00:52:45.239 --> 00:52:50.840 a minimum sentence of thirty nine years and eight months. Similarly, on June 647 00:52:50.840 --> 00:52:55.480 fifth, twenty seventeen, Crystal Matlock pleaded guilty to conspiracy to accessory after the 648 00:52:55.559 --> 00:53:00.159 fact of first degree murder and got a minimum sentence of three years and two 649 00:53:00.199 --> 00:53:07.360 months. In twenty eighteen, because this is mom, Cynthia stated, quote 650 00:53:07.800 --> 00:53:13.000 John had mental problems but wasn't a bad guy end quote, So she did 651 00:53:13.119 --> 00:53:15.719 call him John. I told her she didn't call him zoo. She's like, 652 00:53:16.440 --> 00:53:20.119 no, but he wasn't a bad guy to Leah, he had some 653 00:53:20.199 --> 00:53:25.119 problems. No, he sounds ill. Yeah, he does ill. Nobody 654 00:53:25.119 --> 00:53:30.159 got him out either. She could have She could have tried. She could 655 00:53:30.199 --> 00:53:32.039 have tried. She could have not lived with dead bodies in her backyard. 656 00:53:32.559 --> 00:53:35.920 Not judging her body. She could have done some better. I know, 657 00:53:35.960 --> 00:53:38.000 I'm trying to she could have made some better choices. But yeah, but 658 00:53:38.079 --> 00:53:42.960 she you know, she probably scared. I mean, I don't that's true. 659 00:53:43.079 --> 00:53:45.880 But I'm not living in the back. I'm not gonna have dead bodies 660 00:53:45.880 --> 00:53:49.360 in my backroom. Just move out. I mean, she worked too, 661 00:53:49.440 --> 00:53:52.639 so I'm sure she could give gone somewhere. I don't know. Didn't you 662 00:53:52.639 --> 00:53:54.679 have family and stuff. I don't know. We're not gonna die. I'm 663 00:53:54.719 --> 00:54:00.239 spiraling. Even though she was a witness to the crimes, she was ever 664 00:54:00.320 --> 00:54:06.239 charged in relation to the murders. So his story is just a reminder of 665 00:54:06.280 --> 00:54:10.760 what drugs can do to people, untreated mental illness can do to people. 666 00:54:12.320 --> 00:54:17.840 And while he met his end by his own hand, the scars he leaves 667 00:54:17.880 --> 00:54:22.679 behind are just countless. I know. I feel bad for Yeah, especially 668 00:54:22.920 --> 00:54:28.599 that they had that one what was this Josh had a son, yeah, 669 00:54:28.920 --> 00:54:34.079 and I'm sure they all had family, yeah, I mean yeah, so 670 00:54:34.760 --> 00:54:37.639 that is the horrible, horrific just for this, just for fun, I 671 00:54:37.719 --> 00:54:42.079 know, just for fun. No good reason, no good reason to do 672 00:54:42.119 --> 00:54:45.159 these murders. Not that there's ever a good reason, but I'm saying, 673 00:54:45.639 --> 00:54:50.000 I mean sometimes you can kind of see it, right, like, but 674 00:54:50.199 --> 00:54:52.280 this is just just pleasure. It's just pleasure. And these are the most 675 00:54:52.280 --> 00:54:55.639 disturbing crimes of all. I feel like it's like when serial killers kill people, 676 00:54:55.639 --> 00:54:59.880 it's just for the pleasure of it, Like, I don't know, 677 00:55:00.159 --> 00:55:02.719 so it's not look at the heat of passion, no, no, or 678 00:55:02.840 --> 00:55:07.719 you know, I'm gonna kill you for your life insurance or something, right, 679 00:55:07.800 --> 00:55:12.039 Like, there's no reason. So these have to be the most troubling 680 00:55:12.039 --> 00:55:15.840 ones for police too, because you do want to find a reason. But 681 00:55:15.599 --> 00:55:22.159 anyway, well, thank you everyone for watching and listening to today's episode. 682 00:55:22.760 --> 00:55:27.800 If you would like to hear more episodes, Talia and I have a Patreon 683 00:55:27.880 --> 00:55:35.000 channel Patreon. 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