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podcast, you don't care anyway.
I was recording Helen Highwater earlier today with

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mom Maria, and you know,
I'm a little more together than I was

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at the time I was talking to
her earlier. But it's been a weird

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time period here. I guess we're
entering or we should be entering very soon,

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a nice mercury retrograde, you know, all that good stuff where everything

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that is computing turns against you.
Seems like other physical objects turned against you.

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You know, the universe gives you
an attitude problem for a little while.

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That's kind of like my whole life. The universe has been giving me

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an attitude problem. But for more
on attitude and problems that other people have.

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I have the one and only Maria
Heller with me, Maria dot Net,

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I call her Mom. Glad.
I was recording Helen high Water with

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you, but I haven't had you
as a guest in a while. And

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you know what, We were in
the middle of a conversation, had to

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cut it short on Hell and eye
Water. So I figured, let's take

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a little pause, relaxed, get
through our day, and get together back

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again on my show and finish it. What do you say, Mom,

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I say yes. You know,
between when the time we did our show

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and now Joe Biden once again has
bypassed Congress yep and approved another two hundred

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million dollars for the Ukraine yep.
So what is the point of Congress?

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That's number one? And as we
talked about, you know, on my

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show earlier today, which I thought
was a sizzling hot While Americans are starving,

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while Americans can't pay their rent,
while we have Americans living homeless or

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about to be, We're sending all
this money overseas, not just to our

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two proxy was in the Ukraine and
in Israel, without anyone ever asking or

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debating it. With the American taxpayer, we had nothing to say about it.

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The only person that wrote long and
had on that was Ralph Nader.

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Well, isn't it interesting where everybody's
coming from on this to begin with?

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Because now we're in a state where
there are plenty of people. Look,

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you're objecting to you personally, sounds
like to me, you're objecting to the

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war machine being funded. You're objecting
to this idea that we send millions of

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dollars every single day to Israel to
do what it is they do. We're

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sending way too much money to Ukraine, and it is because they do what

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they got to do, and it's
the military industrial complex and all. That

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sounds like a consistent position to me. But this is not the debate that

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most of America is having. See, that's the weird thing. I know,

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it's really sad. And when you
think about it, you know Biden's

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excuse is, you know, we
have to protect these democracies. Well,

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how about protecting the democracy here at
home? Well even weirder since the time

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that we spoke, right, I
caught these stories and found it fascinating.

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And let's add to this discussion just
a little more before we get into the

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deep dive and I do mean a
deep dive on Israel. Canada Okay is

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now calling for a ceasefire regarding Israel. Biden, Okay, is using language.

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Here's the funny thing. He's using
language at this point, saying that

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the IDF is making assertions about things, right, not absolutely taking their word

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for gospel. Uh. He's saying
stuff like, you know, Israel is

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flooding these tunnels. Did you see
the flooding story? Now, No,

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I didn't get to see that.
Okay, December was Israel that that in

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bold and supported Hamas, thinking the
more money they gave Hamas, the more

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they would have the Palestinians under control. Well, you know that's another thing.

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Nobody's talking about his nets on Yahoo
being in bed with Hamas. Well,

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you're not. They don't serve the
purpose like Reagan and the Mujaheden.

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See you're not allowed to talk about
that, though, Maria, because that

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makes you an anti Semite. But
more on that later. Because here's the

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thing there. I'll just give you
a little snippet of what's going on.

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I'm sure or you'll wind up covering
it on your news program at Maria dot

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net in the next day or so. But here's what's happening right now.

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They're flooding. Remember the tunnels they
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Hamas was utilizing all these tunnels.
This is how they got the terrorist

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attacks done in the first place.
Blah blah. Well, the thing is

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Israel is now flooding those tunnels.
Now, hold on a second. I

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thought that that's where they were keeping
some of these hostages that we've been hearing

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about. So they're gonna flood these
tunnels, which is supposed to cripple Hamas.

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They're saying the IDF a bit that, Well, we don't think any

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of the hostages are in the tunnels
that we're flooding, but they're flooding an

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underground tunnel system. Okay, Now, is that a humane way to deal

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with it? Is it just a
Hamas weapon the tunnel system. Are they

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gonna drown some civilians? Well more
on that in a second, because here's

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the other sin Biden committed, according
to some not me, not you,

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Maria, but hold on, he's
also used languages like saying that, you

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know, when he's talking about don't
bomb civilians indiscriminately, like we would frown

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upon that very mild sort of language. The people that are supporters of the

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IDF, the IDF themselves, the
Israelis, appear to be upset that any

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suggestion that they might indiscriminately bomb civilians
is an absolutely like like, now Biden's

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being an anti Semite, even though
he's a declared Zionist. Well, by

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the way, we'll get to the
Zionist discussion, because that's where we got

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cut off today on hell and high
water. But hold on, they're now

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pissed off that he is not full
throated and absolutely saying that Israel is doing

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everything ethically correctly and an absolute appropriate
response to Hamas the attacks, the thing

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that happened on octob what is it, October seventh, yeah, October seven.

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They are angry with him. Real
true supporters of Israel are angry because

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you can't even show a flinch of
descent about the being behavior of the nation

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State of Israel. You can't say
a single thing about the behavior of the

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IDF. Now, are they justified
all this? We could have that debate,

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sure, but you can't because if
you even begin to flex in the

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direction of possibly saying that the IDF
or Israel is incorrect, is morally not

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supported. Guess what, You're an
anti Semite. You're against the State of

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Israel. You're a bad person.
You're against America, you're against our allies.

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Okay, here's the bad thing.
Now I want you to understand that

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anti Semitism. Not you, Maria, but now you the listener. I

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want you to understand that this weird
discussion that started on Friday where I said,

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well, are you telling me that
any criticism of Israel, and this

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was on the Friday call and show, any criticism of Israel at all equates

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to anti Semitism hate speech. Therefore, I want because I'm criticizing Israel in

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any way, shape or form,
I am automatically somebody who wants the genocide

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of the Jews. This is the
new assertion, and it's because Zionism now,

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according to the public definition, is
only only saying that Zionism is only

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again I stress it again, only
about recognizing that Israel has a right to

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exist and Jews have a right to
exist. That is all Zionism is.

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You can't say anything else. You
can't criticize Israel. I've never seen any

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other nation on the planet given this
treatment in the English speaking world. I've

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never seen any of this before.
This is bizarre to me. Now Biden

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is not enough of a Zionist right
now, according to the really ultra Zionists,

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who you can't criticize. It doesn't
that sound strange. You can't criticize,

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You can't comment on this unless you
want to be called an anti Semite

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and everything else. So this is
where we're at. And I'm not even

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touching on the Ukrainian situation today,
which is also funny because Biden met with

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Zelensky today, right all right,
and they're talking about they need. Now

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I'm in a weird spot because I
almost feel like we might need to back

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Ukraine. Okay, I'm not sure
how I feel about that, but oddly

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enough, even today, weird story
came out. Now I want to see

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if you think this is familiar.
They're saying that there might be human testing

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labs in Palestine. See again,
we're with the biochemical weapon testing stuff in

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a small place, and they're saying
that that's going on. Now. Some

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people are saying it's you know,
the Israelis control that the Palestinians have it.

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So these people who are too poor
to get real bombs, who are

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too poor to do a lot of
things, including move their own people around,

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and we're not even going to get
into where the hell are they supposed

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to go. They tell them to
leave from the north, they tell them

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to leave from the south. There's
not that much of Gaza left when you

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leave the north and the south out
and you're sided on one side by the

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ocean, another side by you know, Egypt, who is not admitting anybody.

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They know how to close the border. By the way, if you're

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worried about that, maybe we should
check with them about our southern border.

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But besides this, on the other
side, what are they bordered by Israel?

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So where do they go? They
logical girls want them to go anywhere.

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They don't want them to go back
to Gaza. They want to eradicate

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the Palestinians. This is a genocide. Yeah, well, but you can't

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say that they never again, I
guess they only mean for themselves. But

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you see there's the problem again.
You can't say that's that's not a genocide

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because part wrote a book on Israel
the apartheid state. Yeah okay, and

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they demonized Jimmy for it, but
it was the truth. You know.

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Even when I talked with Howard's in
years ago on my shelf, who is

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obviously Jewish, I reminded him of
the open air prison and the slow genocide

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on the Palestinians. Now it's you
know, genocide at you know, one

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hundred and fifty miles an hour,
and I think the only rea and Biden's

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trying to backtrack because I also saw
that he said since we talked that Netsan

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Yahoo is losing world favor over this, And my answer to that is so

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is Biden. And that's probably why
he's backtracking because he does not have the

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majority of America behind him on this. He doesn't even have Congress behind him

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on it. But it's a soft
backpedal that Biden is doing. And what's

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really super strange now though, is
you know, I'm looking at the usual

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suspects in media. Take a look
at Bill Maher's full throated endorsement of the

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nation state of Israel, and how
it is that he is dumbfounded by the

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idea that there is so much anti
Semitism everywhere in all that's on nets on

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Yahoo. He's created. He's put
every Jew in the world in danger.

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So that's on nets on Yahoo as
far as I can say. And for

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netsan Yahoo, he's only cared about
his political future, even though he's supposedly

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in court over his fraud charges this
week. But he's put all the juice

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in the world in danger. And
you know, I reported on my show

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the other day that Israel, the
idea or their intelligence services, they had

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warning a year in advance of what
was going to happen on October seventh,

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just like George Bush did on nine
to eleven, and they chose not to

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do anything. So on October seventh, when they hit back, they killed

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a lot of their own people.
And they don't care. Their people are

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as disposable as Americans are to our
government. And if people want to see

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the real truth, get over to
a website called if Americans Knew, and

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you'll see the real facts and figures
of what's going on in Israel. And

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to be an anti Semite would mean
that you are against the Palestinians, not

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Israel, because the palaces are the
true by blood Semites, not the Jews

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that were brought over from Russia who
were just Jewish and faith only and not

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thought of the bloodline. See,
people don't want to hear about that.

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They don't want to learn the difference
between the Kazarian Jew and an Ashkenazi Jew.

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So yeah, do some homework,
folks. We don't make this stuff

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up. I wish my imagination was
that good, but it isn't. Well,

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here's the thing, right, I
know what the argument is against what

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you just said, because I'm getting
pounded with it, believe it or not,

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by listeners. I'm so surprised that
I had so many supporters of Israel

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among my listeners, because here's the
thing. They're telling me effectively, and

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I'm telling you, one after another
is telling me that the Palestinians aren't really

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a people. They're not an actual
group. No, I'm serious, Like,

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they're not a group of people.
They're they're just Arabs who just happen

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to be there, and they don't
really have a real claes to the land

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either. Okay, but where did
Jesus supposedly walk the earth? Well,

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he didn't walk the earth in Israel. He walked the earth in Palestine.

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Reached your Bible, well, before
he could walk he was born in Bethlehem,

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I think, which is in that
area that we call Palestine, is

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it not, Well, it was
called Palestine in the Bible. If you

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look at the old Biblical maps,
it's Palestine on the map. And it

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wasn't until what was it nineteen fourteen
with the Rothschilds, you know, with

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the changing their name from Bear to
Rothschild, passing the balls bloor decoration at

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the un and gifting Israel to the
supposed Jewish population. You know, I

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could tell you right now that I'm
Jewish, even though I'm Itallian, the

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same as Joe Biden, who's supposedly
a Catholic, says he's a Christian Zionist.

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By the way, I'm not.
I'm not Jewish. I just wanted

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the people to know that before they
start cursing me out. Yeah, well,

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because that was funny. I actually
recounted that earlier today on high Water.

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Then the first time when nobody knew
me, and you know, people

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were starting to get to know my
show, and I brought you on.

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The first thing was you know,
where did this jew bitch come from?

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And that was the nicest phrase they
gave to you there, you know,

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and it was like, oh,
she's just some jew from New York.

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And I'm like, she's not even
Jewish. She's Italian, all right.

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Actually I worked under my married name
Heller for twenty years before I got divorced.

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There was no way I was giving
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looked up the meaning of the name
Heller, which is not Jewish, it's

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actually a German name. It means
bringer of light. Nice. I've been

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bringing light to this planet forever.
Whether people want to accept the light or

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not is not my problem. I
do what I do because it's what I

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must do. See, But the
most suple prongs of this argument or what's

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killing me, And this is why
I want to talk to you about it,

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because no matter what I say,
or no matter what I ask about

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it, you know, because even
asking the wrong question is a big problem

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here. I try not to even
present my view on this on the call

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in show, right, and I
keep getting pinned down on it where it's

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like, no, you got to
say whether you think Israel and Israel and

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Jews have a right to exist.
Now, under no circumstances would I be

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for the genocide of any group of
people, no matter how they're grouped.

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I'm not for joicide. I'm not
for murder. So here's the thing,

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of course, I'm not like a
denier of the Holocaust. I'm not a

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supporter of the Holocaust. Okay,
neither one actually, Okay you can be

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neither. By the way, I'm
not denying it. I'm not saying that

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it's all accurate because I question all
of history, especially because only the people

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that survive because they won the wars
get to write the history. So therefore,

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you know, I say to myself, it's probably tainted, like all

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history is. But that's the other
thing. Is they say, even though

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an entire country, by vote of
the UN and the Rothchilds and the Balfloor

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Declaration was given to Israel, yeahs
to me no reason why they couldn't have

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a two state solution. But Israel
doesn't want that. Natanya, who's made

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it very clear the past few weeks, he wants all the Palestinians gone.

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Now if you've been looking, they
finally delivered drinking water to the Palestinians today

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who have been dying of thirst and
dying of starvation. One mother who gave

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birth to her baby a month ago
was holding her dead baby now in her

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hands. Where's the phony right to
life? People in this country? It's

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just sickening what we do and what's
done in our name, and what's done

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with our tax dollars when we don't
get a vote on it. Okay,

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I want my taxes to go to
the people I see in the street in

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my neighborhood. I wanted to go
to the people that are hungry here in

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America, all right. I wanted
to go to people who can't afford groceries.

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Yeah, you know two off food
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a year like this ever, where
their shelves are empty. To our veterans

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who you know, raw Ross,
Sispom Bob. But once you get home,

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they don't care whether you live or
die. So I'm gonna tell you

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a little something about you bring up
a food bank, so I'll give you

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a little personal insight. Okay,
went to a food bank just the other

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day, and why because I actually
had to Okay, I'm trying to feed

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a family here, So I went
and I got to see and I got

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what everybody else got. So for
a family of three, Maria, I

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got three canned items and a bag
of rice, okay, and some expired

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snack food. That was my you
know, withdrawal. Right, and now

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you know whoever's arguing, you know, with you in your audience, we're

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sending now it's not the thirteen million
a day. Now, it's fifty million

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a day to Israel, who has
a much higher standard of living than we

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do. Well, yeah, let's
not leave out they have free health care,

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free abortion access, and they live
way better than we do. Okay,

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Oh, we're protecting their democracy.
Tell that to the mother who had

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to leave Texas to get an abortion
because her baby's basically dead inside of her.

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Tell that to the mother in Kentucky
who they told her baby has no

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heartbeat and she can't get an abortion. So let's not talk about democracy and

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freedom until, as Martin Luther King
says, nobody has freedom unless everybody has

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freedom. So I'm going to reveal
something to you, strange that was handed

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to me today by somebody that wanted
to show me what's going on. So

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you do know they have the internet, you know, in Israel, all

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right, you can go to certain
there are websites that are printed out in

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their language, okay, but they
sent me videos with links and an English

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translation to certain videos that are going
on over there, all right, there

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are And this is the weird thing. I'm gonna wrap this around, and

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I want I'm just gonna drop it
on the table for you and tell you

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and see what you think of it. But this is what I'm being exposed

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to and why it is. I
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the Palestinians that apparently some of my
listeners don't have. Here. It is

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I was sent to these sites and
said, look at this, and you

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know I'm trusting a translation, yes, but the translations that I was seeing

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was over and over again Palestinian women, okay, who were saying things like

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this, Maria. You know,
they would prefer that either Israel would stop

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bombing them or kill them all,
because that would be more merciful, that

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would be a greater relief. These
are the words they're using. According to

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the translation, that would be a
greater relief that would be more humane than

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the hell that they are being put
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my listeners that apparently feel like,
well, you know what, you don't

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want to be in the place that's
getting hell fired, then don't be in

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the place that's getting hell fire.
Well, what should they do? Await

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for Moses to come and part the
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Well there's that problem, the problem
that I brought up earlier, where

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there's nowhere for them to go.
But here's the other issue. Right,

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there are people that say, well, you know what, these people voted

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for Hamas, they put them in
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and therefore or two thousand whatever,
two thousand and two they put them in

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office. Hamas, the terrorist group
is leading the country, regardless of where

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they came from, or if they
were supported by or created by Israel,

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or if they were utilized in order
to split Palestine so that they could deal

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with the threat of the PLO.
Like the history says, let's put all

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of that aside. Here's the thing. In reality, half of the population

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in Gaza are children, right,
So here's the deal with that that they

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are children as we speak. They
were either not born or not able to

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vote at the time that Hamas was
put into place as their government, right,

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right, And you can't vote them
out. Okay, Well, you

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can't vote them out. But there's
the thing. Well, then you're going

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to be able to vote out the
dictator on day one. Okay. You

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know you could say the same thing
here in America. You know, we

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voted these assholes in, but we're
the ones that suffer from the perjurers on

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the Supreme Court who were all criminal
in my opinion. And you know what

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if they start killing all of us? Okay, do you think that the

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government would care? You know,
I think I got a thing. I

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think I'm trying to remember they're trying
to say that Russia in Ukraine has lost

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so far three hundred and fifteen thousand
troops. Now, whether that's true or

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not, who knows. Okay.
Most of what we're told is wegg the

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dog, lies and propaganda, right, Okay. And if your audience never

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saw the dog, it's time to
watch the movie. Yeah. But you

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know, look at nine to eleven, they had more than four knowledge of

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what was coming, did nothing,
Okay. And even though the warnings were

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there, so you have to say, well, okay, they let it

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happen on purpose, or made it
happen on purpose Israel, the same thing.

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There were stock market trades in Israel
before October seventh, just like on

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nine to eleven. Somebody made money
on that for knowledge, that's right,

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But you're not going to see that
on mainstream media. They're not going to

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tell you that because we have to
remember, if you want to know who

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controls you, look at who you
can't talk about. See. Now,

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there is the key I wanted to
get to next, because here's the interesting

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part of it, Maria, the
part of the discussion that you and I

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are not actually involved in. Okay, And here it is the mainstream narrative,

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the mainstream debate. What is it? Right now? There is the

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group that is for arming Ukraine,
for standing with them as an ally,

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right, that's what they want to
do. And they also want us to

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back and absolutely stay with our supposed
only ally in the Middle East. So

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war and war on one side.
How are they the only ally we have

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in the Middle East? Asked Jared
Kushna asked the Bush family, ask the

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Trump family who's their ally in the
Middle East? It's Saudi Arabia. Hey,

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look, you're talking to me.
You're talking to me about reality.

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I'm talking you about the narrative and
the debate. That's of course done for

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us period. What have they done
for us? They've been spying on us

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since the nineteen seventies. Bill Moyer
had made a great report on that in

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the seventies, spying on our phones, spying on on media. Outside of

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spying on us and trying to slip
their latest malware into our apple thongs,

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what have they done for us?
Somebody named one thing? Yeah, I

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keep asking that. Waits right,
I'll wait, What did they do for

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us? Yeah? Please, I'd
love that answer. But here, here's

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the other part of that. By
the way, of course, the most

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aggressive, alleged ally of ours spying
activity is through Israel. They are for

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a little place. Boy are they
aggressive and widespread as far as their spy

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activity on the US or ally.
But anyway, put that aside, what

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is the other side of the equation. What is the opposition to that thing

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I just laid out, which is
pro war in Ukraine and pro war in

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Israel. Because don't even question why
you're pro war in Israel, but pro

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war in Ukraine because they are an
ally we we should protect them. We

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do need to have the existential again
battle between US and Russia, et cetera.

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That's their that's their mindset, all
right. But here's a simple answer,

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okay with your audience. Probably isn't
gonna like either. Didn't even get

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to the other half. But please
go ahead, give us some short answer.

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One. We defended the Ukraine,
we defend Israel. We won't defend

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Palestine. Why because America is a
racist country. Okay, Oh, everybody

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must be in shock right now to
have heard that we are a racist country.

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If it's white people in trouble,
we're there on the spot. If

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it's non white people, kill them
at the border. We don't care if

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they all get slaughtered. Uh.
You know, the name Colon comes out.

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They get reduced to animals like nets
on Yahoo refers to the Palestinians.

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Uh, and clue, as everybody's
getting to celebrate Christmas, Jesus was not

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white. Oh, everybody's head just
exploded. Yeah, okay, there are

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no white people in the Bible.
Where they came up with the made up

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Christian names of Matthew, Mark,
Luke, and John is a joke.

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Okay, that's totally from Constantine,
who manipulated the Bible to his liking.

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Of course, people probably never heard
that word and never researched any of it.

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So if you're Jesus who was a
migrant, who was turned away from

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even being born, how to be
born in an animal stable, he was

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not white. If that was Jesus
trying to enter the border right now,

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they'd kill him on spot. But
hang those Christmas trees and give out those

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Christmas presents, you know, put
the Christ back in Christmas. No,

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put the Christ back in Christians.
Well, even better than that, Maria

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is besides putting the Christ back in
Christmas. The people that are worried about

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the war on Christmas, they have
a different take on that equation. I

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just gave you a moment ago,
right, which is, we don't want

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to support Ukraine because Ukraine are a
criminal state, terrible actors, etc.

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As if there's any nation state out
there that has anything that isn't a criminal

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state. But okay, the thing
is, we don't want to support them

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because this is all about the prejudice
over Russia. See, we still have

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this mentality, the Cold War mentality. According to them, and we need

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to get over that because we need
to side with Putin. He's a good

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guy, Like Trump said, Well, anyway, your audience might be very

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young, and they might not remember. They might not remember the days of

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Kennedy. They might not remember Cruise
Shive threatening to kill us. All I

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grew up through that. We were
terrified at that time, especially with the

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Cuban missile crisis. Yea, even
though I was probably I don't know,

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maybe twelve years old, I couldn't
understand why we were wiping Russia out at

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that point. Okay. Luckily we
had saying people in office, Bobby and

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Jack, and we lived through it. Okay, So anybody like the Republicans

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kissing the ass of Russia and Putin
and the MAGA crowd who thinks Putin's great,

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why don't you move to Russia?
Okay? I looked at a film

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yesterday on YouTube of how the average
Russian lives? Why don't you move there?

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Okay? But the way they live
would make you yen to be homeless

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in America. Well, and here's
the thing about that, right, the

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same people they say that we have
a problem because of exactly what you just

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said. All right, Look,
I put it aside. I wasn't around

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for the Cuban missile crisis. I
was there. I was shitting my pants,

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Okay, all of America was terrified. I came out from school and

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I hid under my mother's furniture.
Well, instead, what we got in

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my generation is we got to go
through the Day after, right, which

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was the whole thing about we're gonna
wind up nuking each other, okay,

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And so yeah, there was that
fear of the Soviet Union that was propagated

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among my generation as well through a
different facility. You guys had the actual

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drama playing out between the Kennedys and
and Khrushchev that you know, we only

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learned about over the years, which, by the way, there's been more

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revelations about that through the JFK Records
Collection Act. But we'll get to that

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in a minute. Maybe, all
right, if we ever get to see

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those papers. Right, here's the
thing. So the same people that say

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we need to side with Russia and
it's your old prejudices that are speaking here,

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00:30:32.680 --> 00:30:33.880
and I say, okay, you
know what, maybe you're right about

408
00:30:33.880 --> 00:30:37.960
that, but it doesn't mean that
I got a side with Putin. Okay,

409
00:30:37.200 --> 00:30:41.240
put Ukraine aside. They don't want
to support Ukraine, but we do

410
00:30:41.519 --> 00:30:47.200
still want to show. I feel
sorry for the Russian people, for the

411
00:30:47.279 --> 00:30:52.799
Israeli people, for the Palestinian people, right for the Ukrainian people, absolutely,

412
00:30:53.200 --> 00:30:57.839
but all of us are ruled by
the worst gum on the face of

413
00:30:57.960 --> 00:31:04.119
the earth. Okay. I can't
think of one nation that has a ruler

414
00:31:04.519 --> 00:31:08.839
that isn't evil, that isn't selfish, that isn't greedy, that isn't corrupt,

415
00:31:08.839 --> 00:31:14.559
that isn't a warmonger, okay,
and we the people are the ones

416
00:31:14.599 --> 00:31:18.839
that suffer. I forget who said
it best, but they said in every

417
00:31:18.880 --> 00:31:22.039
election, we may not know who
wins, but we always know who the

418
00:31:22.119 --> 00:31:26.279
loser is, and it's the American
people. Yeah. Absolutely, And now

419
00:31:26.279 --> 00:31:30.960
they've got us fighting against each other. Whether you're on the Jewish side,

420
00:31:30.000 --> 00:31:34.319
whether you're on the the Ukrainian side, whether you're on the Russian side,

421
00:31:34.319 --> 00:31:40.240
whether on Palastan side, I'm on
human beings side. No human beings should

422
00:31:40.240 --> 00:31:44.200
have to go through the hell that
the Israelis went through on October seventh,

423
00:31:44.240 --> 00:31:49.640
which their government allowed to happen,
or what the poor Palestinians are going through.

424
00:31:51.119 --> 00:31:53.079
As a mother and a grandmother.
With what you said. They sent

425
00:31:53.119 --> 00:32:00.279
you those pictures and translations. That's
proof that there are things worse than Yeah,

426
00:32:01.039 --> 00:32:05.799
exactly exactly. So let me get
to the other part of this equation,

427
00:32:05.880 --> 00:32:08.079
though, real fast, because here's
the thing that confuses me. They're

428
00:32:08.119 --> 00:32:13.559
against arming Ukraine. They're against that, and I get it, you want

429
00:32:13.559 --> 00:32:16.079
to be And they say it's because
they're anti war. They don't want conflict

430
00:32:16.359 --> 00:32:19.839
and this is the only way we
should stay out of it. And I

431
00:32:20.160 --> 00:32:23.279
understand that sentiment. Stay the hell
out of other people's business. Sure I

432
00:32:23.319 --> 00:32:28.200
do. We don't do that,
but I understand it, and we'll They're

433
00:32:28.519 --> 00:32:34.319
they're talking about sending US troops to
Israel, but that's money in your audience,

434
00:32:34.359 --> 00:32:37.000
that's in the service. Do you
want to go there and get into

435
00:32:37.039 --> 00:32:39.279
that war? Do you want to
be stuck in another quagmire like a rock

436
00:32:39.359 --> 00:32:44.839
in Afghanistan? But that's the thing. A lot of these former military guys,

437
00:32:44.960 --> 00:32:51.160
they are against arming Ukraine and for
arming Israel. Well because they're brainwashed.

438
00:32:51.240 --> 00:32:53.680
They're brainwashed by the media, they're
brainwashed by ignorance. The gods that

439
00:32:53.759 --> 00:33:00.640
they'd opened a book and learn the
difference again between Zionism and Judaism. Maybe

440
00:33:00.640 --> 00:33:04.119
you wouldn't hate Jews so much.
Okay, Jesus was a Jew. Ooh

441
00:33:04.160 --> 00:33:10.000
shaka in time for Christmas, Jesus
was a Jew. People have got to

442
00:33:10.039 --> 00:33:16.640
stop letting social media, mass media
turn them against their own families, their

443
00:33:16.680 --> 00:33:22.920
own brothers and sisters. Okay,
take the fight where it belongs to the

444
00:33:22.039 --> 00:33:27.119
idiots that are making these laws,
the idiots that are selling us out,

445
00:33:27.839 --> 00:33:30.039
not the guy who lives next door
to you who may have a different opinion

446
00:33:30.119 --> 00:33:37.720
on something. But everybody gets whipped
into these frenzies which result in violence because

447
00:33:37.759 --> 00:33:43.599
the jackasses like Trump think about January
sixth and people that are still going to

448
00:33:43.680 --> 00:33:47.480
jail for eleven twelve thirty years because
of him. Well he laughs. I

449
00:33:47.480 --> 00:33:54.000
mean since we talked, he's now
hawking. The carnival barker is now selling

450
00:33:54.240 --> 00:34:01.240
a pieces strips of his suit that
he wore when he got his mug shot.

451
00:34:01.640 --> 00:34:06.200
Yeah, with a picture of the
mug shot, you get a strip

452
00:34:06.319 --> 00:34:12.559
of the suit for forty six hundred
dollars. Right, How can anybody look

453
00:34:12.599 --> 00:34:20.320
at a scum carnival bark a snake
oil salesman, lifelong criminal rapist selling anything

454
00:34:20.360 --> 00:34:23.280
he'd sell his mother for a buck
and take him as Oh, that guy's

455
00:34:23.280 --> 00:34:29.239
so presidential. But what's bizarre to
me is the people that are on his

456
00:34:29.360 --> 00:34:34.039
side right now are not being the
anti Semitic in the typical sense. They're

457
00:34:34.079 --> 00:34:37.559
not siding against Israel. Everybody,
it seems like, is no matter who

458
00:34:37.639 --> 00:34:40.599
you are, what you are,
what you're disagreeing on, you got a

459
00:34:40.679 --> 00:34:45.920
side with Israel. You got ill. I never have since I got educated.

460
00:34:46.000 --> 00:34:51.079
See, education is a wonderful thing. But the dumbing down of America

461
00:34:51.239 --> 00:34:54.199
now, banning of books, banning
of teaching real history in our schools,

462
00:34:54.960 --> 00:35:00.000
this is just to keep people whipped
and into you know, robot until,

463
00:35:00.039 --> 00:35:04.880
of course the robots take them out
and probably kill us all, which you

464
00:35:04.920 --> 00:35:09.320
and I talked a little bit about
earlier today. Right, but it's all

465
00:35:09.400 --> 00:35:14.840
mind control. It's mind control and
propaganda. And the dumbing down of America

466
00:35:15.039 --> 00:35:20.159
is complete. Okay. People have
forgotten what it is to open a book,

467
00:35:20.719 --> 00:35:23.840
Okay, to actually do a little
research for themselves. You and I

468
00:35:23.880 --> 00:35:28.480
have mentioned about a thousand different things
right now. Yeah, how many people

469
00:35:28.519 --> 00:35:31.920
are going to go research what we're
talking about, Well, almost none because

470
00:35:32.920 --> 00:35:37.280
but they want to stay in their
position, which only makes them seem ignorant

471
00:35:37.880 --> 00:35:43.119
because they are ignorant. And I
don't mean that as a slam. You

472
00:35:43.320 --> 00:35:45.840
just don't know. See. But
that's the funny part is right now people

473
00:35:45.880 --> 00:35:50.039
like you and me are having the
more open conversation. We're saying, let's

474
00:35:50.079 --> 00:35:52.199
consider the whole of this thing,
you know, not just basing it on.

475
00:35:52.360 --> 00:35:55.559
Well, here's the thing, you
know, Israel, that land should

476
00:35:55.559 --> 00:36:00.920
exist because the Bible. We're not
just doing that. We're not saying that.

477
00:36:00.960 --> 00:36:04.159
We're not being beaten over the head
from the pulpits like they do in

478
00:36:04.320 --> 00:36:07.199
all of these evangelist churches. Right
now, you know, what is it?

479
00:36:07.280 --> 00:36:10.639
You speak against Israel, you speak
against God. I mean, that

480
00:36:10.840 --> 00:36:15.119
is the way it is. And
we're not going there. So you know

481
00:36:15.159 --> 00:36:17.960
what we are. We are in
a position of even though I didn't even

482
00:36:19.000 --> 00:36:22.320
state here. You notice I didn't
state absolute support for anybody. I simply

483
00:36:22.360 --> 00:36:27.719
said that I want to consider this
whole thing and take a look at the

484
00:36:27.760 --> 00:36:30.760
whole thing. And oh, by
the way, it's not even a factor

485
00:36:30.079 --> 00:36:34.079
when you take a look at what's
gone on over the past twenty thirty forty

486
00:36:34.159 --> 00:36:37.400
years regarding what the responses are you
take a look at it. And in

487
00:36:37.480 --> 00:36:42.199
real you know, these statistics and
these body counts that are coming out now,

488
00:36:42.599 --> 00:36:45.360
I have no idea if they are
connected to reality. I do know

489
00:36:45.880 --> 00:36:50.639
that what always seems to happen here, okay, in any of these conflicts,

490
00:36:50.800 --> 00:36:54.039
okay, between Israel and Palestine.
And I'm gonna get corrected again that

491
00:36:54.079 --> 00:36:59.119
Palestinians aren't real people, Palestine's not
a real place, so on and so

492
00:36:59.159 --> 00:37:04.239
forth. Okay, you can't argue
with ignorance, willful ignorance, read your

493
00:37:04.239 --> 00:37:07.800
Bible. Okay, but according to
everybody, okay, you you basically ten

494
00:37:08.400 --> 00:37:14.039
people in Israel get injured, they
kill a hundred, one hundred. They've

495
00:37:14.039 --> 00:37:20.880
got eighteen thousand palestinianstead they've got two
million Palestinians homeless, they have no place

496
00:37:20.920 --> 00:37:22.920
to go. Yeah, well that's
right. Now. Half of them are

497
00:37:22.000 --> 00:37:24.800
children. So let's look at this
scenario. There's the other one. Did

498
00:37:24.840 --> 00:37:30.880
any of those children survive? Okay, because it doesn't look to me that

499
00:37:30.960 --> 00:37:36.599
God that Israel wants any Palestinian to
live. They're like Jesus, they like

500
00:37:36.679 --> 00:37:40.360
that that Pharaoh. They wanted all
of the Israeli kids dead. Okay,

501
00:37:40.440 --> 00:37:45.599
And Moses was in the basket,
all the fairy tales of the Bible born.

502
00:37:45.679 --> 00:37:49.360
Yeah, the person written by men
for men so men could be in

503
00:37:49.400 --> 00:37:53.360
control. It's nothing but a pack
of lies. But if you look at

504
00:37:53.360 --> 00:38:00.800
that, let's just say some of
those kids survive, well, those are

505
00:38:00.840 --> 00:38:06.400
tomorrow's future terrorists, or I would
call them future freedom fighters. Do you

506
00:38:06.480 --> 00:38:12.119
think that Israel's winning all of the
hearts and minds of those children? See,

507
00:38:12.239 --> 00:38:14.960
there is the other point that I
was getting at, which is,

508
00:38:15.000 --> 00:38:17.079
look when you take a look at
the responses and over the years, you

509
00:38:17.159 --> 00:38:22.480
end up with, you know,
a couple of hundred Israeli's dead versus thousands

510
00:38:23.000 --> 00:38:25.960
of Palestinians dead, right, And
then you say to yourself, well,

511
00:38:27.000 --> 00:38:30.840
gee, what is the lesson that's
going to be taught for that next generation

512
00:38:30.920 --> 00:38:32.920
over the course of twenty years.
Now, people that were babies when that

513
00:38:34.039 --> 00:38:37.280
started, guess what they're now adults. What are their thoughts? Well,

514
00:38:37.320 --> 00:38:42.199
a couple of things. One is
that Israel is truly the enemy because they're

515
00:38:42.239 --> 00:38:45.840
the ones who are killing thousands of
the people that are there for collective punishment.

516
00:38:46.079 --> 00:38:50.639
Collective punishment, right, and all
of that happening. Now, here's

517
00:38:50.679 --> 00:38:52.960
the thing. When they grow up
what are they going to do. They're

518
00:38:52.960 --> 00:38:55.880
gonna say, you know, who
was it that was torturing my family,

519
00:38:55.960 --> 00:38:59.960
killing us, who killed my mother, who killed my father, who killed

520
00:39:00.119 --> 00:39:01.480
my brother? I mean, how
many movies have you seen like that?

521
00:39:01.599 --> 00:39:06.079
Well, and eventually here's the question, right, Eventually, if you learn

522
00:39:06.119 --> 00:39:08.280
a little something, you're going to
learn that Israel did this with the backing

523
00:39:08.320 --> 00:39:13.440
of the United States. OG I
wonder why it's a big shock, And

524
00:39:13.480 --> 00:39:15.239
that's what. Well, we were
the only ones at the UN a week

525
00:39:15.320 --> 00:39:21.880
or two ago who voted against the
cease fire. Okay, as usual the

526
00:39:22.039 --> 00:39:25.159
UN. If it's the UN or
the International Criminal Court, there are only

527
00:39:25.199 --> 00:39:30.639
two countries that always vote no on
anything worthwhile, and it's always Israel in

528
00:39:30.679 --> 00:39:35.800
the United States, who are,
by the way, not members of the

529
00:39:35.800 --> 00:39:39.480
International Criminal Court because we are international
criminals. There you go. So here's

530
00:39:39.480 --> 00:39:45.239
a Christmas holiday movie for your fans
to listen to watch if you've never seen

531
00:39:45.239 --> 00:39:49.920
it. The story of America is
in a great Nicholas Cage movie called Lords

532
00:39:50.039 --> 00:39:55.840
of War. Understand that our number
one export is murder and weapons of murder,

533
00:39:58.079 --> 00:40:00.440
and then you'll understand why the rest
the world feels the way they do.

534
00:40:00.519 --> 00:40:06.480
About us. Well, it's a
foreign policy. It's always been our

535
00:40:06.639 --> 00:40:12.000
foreign policy. They're not jealous of
us sneakers or our genes. We have

536
00:40:12.119 --> 00:40:16.239
destroyed so many countries and so many
covert operations, pulled off so many coups,

537
00:40:17.079 --> 00:40:22.119
armed, so many criminal enterprises.
And this is another thing that the

538
00:40:22.199 --> 00:40:28.440
average American doesn't want to admit to
because truthfully, it's mind blowing. Well,

539
00:40:28.440 --> 00:40:30.880
see, eventually, if you're one
of those kids that we were just

540
00:40:30.000 --> 00:40:32.960
talking about, right, and you
learn a little something about the world,

541
00:40:34.039 --> 00:40:37.079
you're going to learn that what enabled
the nation state of Israel to do all

542
00:40:37.119 --> 00:40:43.039
of those things to your neighbors,
your friends, your family as you were

543
00:40:43.039 --> 00:40:46.079
growing up. Guess what all of
those bombs might as well just say made

544
00:40:46.079 --> 00:40:51.079
in America, all of the right, Well they do, well, they

545
00:40:51.079 --> 00:40:53.800
do you now, now, Old
Joe Biden so surprised because oh, they're

546
00:40:53.880 --> 00:41:00.559
using White's posporus on the Palestinians,
But we sent them the wife. So

547
00:41:00.599 --> 00:41:02.679
where's the surprise. Yeah, well
there it is, right, Just like

548
00:41:02.679 --> 00:41:06.280
with Saddam Hussein. Right, it's
like, oh, look at it.

549
00:41:06.360 --> 00:41:07.800
Look at what he's doing. He's
using these weapons on his own people,

550
00:41:07.920 --> 00:41:12.639
takes his own people gave him the
gas. Herbert Walker Bush here you go.

551
00:41:13.199 --> 00:41:15.719
You know. Okay, but people
don't want to hear that because they

552
00:41:15.719 --> 00:41:19.079
want to, you know, they
want to idolize these people who are the

553
00:41:19.119 --> 00:41:22.320
scum of the earth. They you
know, they give us one image of

554
00:41:22.400 --> 00:41:28.400
themselves. You know, the slick
magazine cover issues of their families. But

555
00:41:28.440 --> 00:41:30.800
these are the worst people that ever
walked the face of the earth. There's

556
00:41:30.840 --> 00:41:37.280
not a heart or human quality in
any of them, you know, and

557
00:41:37.679 --> 00:41:42.039
listen, we did it. You
know. Look look at the United States.

558
00:41:42.519 --> 00:41:45.159
It was founded on racism by a
bunch of losers that were kicked out

559
00:41:45.159 --> 00:41:51.760
of Europe who came here to colonize
and think they discovered a country, flooded

560
00:41:51.960 --> 00:41:55.519
millions of Native Americans, and broke
every contract they ever made with them.

561
00:41:55.679 --> 00:42:01.800
Two today, okay, there's still
fighting for their water rights in Arizona,

562
00:42:02.079 --> 00:42:08.079
on their on their reservations. Okay, They're still fighting to try to keep

563
00:42:08.199 --> 00:42:15.840
mining out of the Grand Canyon.
Okay, what changes. Okay, this

564
00:42:15.880 --> 00:42:19.519
is the history they don't want to
teach in school. Now. You look

565
00:42:19.559 --> 00:42:24.920
at Florida with that moron in office, and you can't teach you know,

566
00:42:24.960 --> 00:42:30.920
real black history anymore. But luckily
the black churches are going to teach the

567
00:42:30.960 --> 00:42:36.880
black history to the children. Okay, you can't. You can't erase the

568
00:42:37.079 --> 00:42:43.760
karma that this country is due,
Okay, the wicked things that we have

569
00:42:43.960 --> 00:42:49.679
done throughout from the beginning of this
country. And you know, it's interesting

570
00:42:49.679 --> 00:42:54.480
when I think about Israel and I
think about Palestine. I remember the Native

571
00:42:54.480 --> 00:43:00.960
American chiefs couldn't understand when the white
man wanted to buy their land. They

572
00:43:00.960 --> 00:43:06.159
said, how can we tell you
something that no one owns? You can't

573
00:43:06.199 --> 00:43:12.360
own the land. Ok Okay.
They understood that everything was here to share,

574
00:43:13.559 --> 00:43:19.199
so as a foreign concept to them. And it's the same thing.

575
00:43:19.239 --> 00:43:22.559
I think about that often when I
look at Israel and Palestine. You know,

576
00:43:22.719 --> 00:43:24.400
nobody owns that land. One hundred
years from now, they could all

577
00:43:24.480 --> 00:43:28.599
be dead and a whole new race
of maybe robots, will be living there.

578
00:43:30.559 --> 00:43:34.159
So even if you own a house, you don't really own your house.

579
00:43:34.239 --> 00:43:37.519
The bank owns it, and you
never own your land because the government

580
00:43:37.840 --> 00:43:39.719
can come in and drill on your
land and whatever they wanted to do at

581
00:43:39.719 --> 00:43:46.960
any particular time. That's a fact. So people have to start using their

582
00:43:47.000 --> 00:43:51.880
brain and using their heart and saying
if that was me, how would I

583
00:43:51.960 --> 00:43:54.960
feel? What can I do to
help the situation? Instead of let me

584
00:43:55.000 --> 00:44:00.000
go bomba synagogue, will let me
go kill somebody because he's wearing a Palestine

585
00:44:00.199 --> 00:44:05.119
and scarf. I mean, that's
just ridiculous. Planet of the Apes.

586
00:44:05.639 --> 00:44:08.320
Well, and the amazing thing is
that you got free speech advocates out there

587
00:44:08.559 --> 00:44:13.280
stating that there should be no free
speech in this case. You got anti

588
00:44:13.360 --> 00:44:16.360
war people out there supposedly saying that
this is the one case where war is

589
00:44:16.519 --> 00:44:22.960
justified. You have This is the
most bizarre thing ever in my mind.

590
00:44:22.480 --> 00:44:25.440
Listen, I don't care what any
any religion. First of all, it's

591
00:44:25.480 --> 00:44:30.559
over six thousand different gods in the
world. Okay, so if you think

592
00:44:30.599 --> 00:44:34.000
yours is the right one, well
more power to you. Good luck.

593
00:44:34.039 --> 00:44:40.719
But the basis of every religion is
love, Love your neighbor. Who is

594
00:44:40.960 --> 00:44:45.320
showing that? Who? Really?
I don't see it. When I hear

595
00:44:45.360 --> 00:44:49.760
people say we're a Christian nation,
I want to throw up because I don't

596
00:44:49.800 --> 00:44:52.079
see any signs of that. Not
in the way we treat migrants, not

597
00:44:52.119 --> 00:44:54.400
in the way we treat our elders, not in the way we treat our

598
00:44:54.519 --> 00:45:00.119
children. I see no sign of
that. Oh, that's the thing with

599
00:45:00.199 --> 00:45:04.960
politicians and these speakers and these people
that are influencing society and so on and

600
00:45:04.960 --> 00:45:07.559
so forth. Here's the one question
I've got for every single person out there

601
00:45:07.639 --> 00:45:12.280
says this person has the right path, this guy's great, this political leader.

602
00:45:12.559 --> 00:45:15.840
I'm behind disantus. I think Trump
has a solution. Okay, look

603
00:45:15.920 --> 00:45:19.559
forget about all the ridiculousness of these
clowns for a moment. Here's my big

604
00:45:19.639 --> 00:45:22.679
question for you. Which one of
them is talking about the thing that we

605
00:45:22.800 --> 00:45:25.119
all we all seem to agree on, which is, you know what,

606
00:45:25.159 --> 00:45:29.760
the world would be a better place
it was peaceful. How About everybody should

607
00:45:29.800 --> 00:45:32.800
get fed. How About there should
be no starvation, there should be no

608
00:45:32.920 --> 00:45:37.960
more of this wholesale murder under some
justification, whether it's religious doctrine or political

609
00:45:38.280 --> 00:45:44.360
ideology or some other form of dogma. Why is it that none of these

610
00:45:44.440 --> 00:45:47.599
leaders are talking about peace, are
talking about well, because when you talk

611
00:45:47.639 --> 00:45:51.800
about peace, you get a bullet
in your head or you get kicked out

612
00:45:51.800 --> 00:45:57.360
of office. Think about Dennis Pacinich
when he started the Office for Peace Right,

613
00:45:57.639 --> 00:45:59.840
when he was in power, they
got rid of him real quick.

614
00:46:00.440 --> 00:46:04.519
You know, Jack Kennedy. Okay, every people, you know, young

615
00:46:04.559 --> 00:46:08.280
people, your audience should listen to
some of his speeches, because when I

616
00:46:08.400 --> 00:46:15.400
listen to Bobby Kennedy now it's like
listening to him and Martin Luther King all

617
00:46:15.440 --> 00:46:21.079
over again. So history doesn't have
to repeat. We can stop the madness

618
00:46:21.119 --> 00:46:25.559
by stop buying into the mind control
that they have put into place for all

619
00:46:25.599 --> 00:46:30.360
of us. An interesting piece of
danger though with Bobby, which we didn't

620
00:46:30.360 --> 00:46:32.039
get to talk about on Helen high
Water or here, and we're about ready

621
00:46:32.079 --> 00:46:37.719
to close it out, is this
Bobby has actually got you know what,

622
00:46:38.039 --> 00:46:42.159
a little thing online where he's saying, I want you to sign a petition

623
00:46:42.639 --> 00:46:45.440
because here's what I want. I
want the rest of the files on my

624
00:46:45.559 --> 00:46:51.920
uncle's murder release. You know,
he actually would like to see that exposed

625
00:46:52.000 --> 00:46:55.079
to the people. Now, I've
got a serious discomfort with his full throat

626
00:46:55.119 --> 00:47:00.599
and support of Israel. But again, as I stated, nobody in public

627
00:47:00.679 --> 00:47:04.639
life is allowed to speak otherwise,
all right, And the last perfect man

628
00:47:04.760 --> 00:47:07.960
ended up with nails through his hands
and feet. If you believe the story,

629
00:47:07.079 --> 00:47:10.119
there you have it. But here's
the thing, Okay, no matter

630
00:47:10.159 --> 00:47:15.280
what you do, he has now
done something extremely dangerous because this is something

631
00:47:15.360 --> 00:47:20.639
that nobody's allowed to do. You
know, even those those fools who believed

632
00:47:20.679 --> 00:47:23.000
that the you know, Orange Jesus
was going to be their savior. Okay,

633
00:47:23.159 --> 00:47:27.880
yeah right, they believe it.
Well, you know it's funny because

634
00:47:27.920 --> 00:47:30.679
he was going to release everything too, remember the camera. Yeah, and

635
00:47:30.679 --> 00:47:34.360
everybody fell for that. He was
going to reinvestigate nine to eleven. I

636
00:47:34.400 --> 00:47:37.840
tried to warn people he's never going
to do that. Listen. I grew

637
00:47:37.920 --> 00:47:40.119
up with Trump. Okay, he's
just three years older than me. We've

638
00:47:40.159 --> 00:47:45.599
always known what a lying, cheat
and scumbag he is. I knew he

639
00:47:45.639 --> 00:47:47.440
wasn't going to do any of that. Name one thing that he did do,

640
00:47:47.559 --> 00:47:52.800
besides kill women's rights in this country, oh raise our taxes. When

641
00:47:52.840 --> 00:47:58.000
you people go to file your taxes
this year from now till twenty twenty seven.

642
00:47:58.960 --> 00:48:02.760
He raised tax is on regular people, not the rich because they got

643
00:48:02.760 --> 00:48:07.679
their three trillion dollars. But you're
gonna be paying more on your taxes because

644
00:48:07.719 --> 00:48:10.320
Trump passed that law. Well,
how many of you know, yeah,

645
00:48:10.679 --> 00:48:14.480
of course, but pay no attention
to that, because now I'm gonna throw

646
00:48:14.480 --> 00:48:17.480
the last Trump supporting grenade on the
table. I can which is this?

647
00:48:17.800 --> 00:48:22.400
Okay? And they kind of have
a point because I'm watching Joe Biden mumble

648
00:48:22.400 --> 00:48:24.519
through stuff today and trying to try
and to take him seriously. I mean,

649
00:48:24.519 --> 00:48:28.519
come on, the guy's gotta go, you know. And I don't

650
00:48:28.559 --> 00:48:31.880
want Vice President Kamala to become President
Kamala. But you know, this guy's

651
00:48:32.199 --> 00:48:35.480
done all right, But they're still
gonna run him out in front of us.

652
00:48:35.519 --> 00:48:37.840
They're still gonna run Trump out in
front of us. Here's the thing

653
00:48:37.880 --> 00:48:40.480
about trump last grenade I'm gonna throw
on the table. Hey, Maria,

654
00:48:42.119 --> 00:48:46.719
your economy, your wallet, your
bank account was better when Trump was in

655
00:48:46.840 --> 00:48:52.719
office. Don't you know that mine
Wasn't I lost money every year he was

656
00:48:52.840 --> 00:48:58.440
he was in office. That's number
one. Number two, You can't blame

657
00:48:58.480 --> 00:49:04.280
the idiots in charge for the corporatetocracy
that we truly live under, for the

658
00:49:04.320 --> 00:49:09.159
corporate ripoff of America, for every
time something bad happens, prices go up,

659
00:49:09.199 --> 00:49:15.000
because they never let a bad situation
go to waste. So you need

660
00:49:15.079 --> 00:49:19.480
to take that bullshit to the corporate
whorees and the CEOs, to the big

661
00:49:19.519 --> 00:49:24.000
oil CEOs. Okay, the ones
they're reaping in seventy percent more profit now

662
00:49:24.360 --> 00:49:30.760
than before COVID because they're bleeding it
out of us. So no. And

663
00:49:30.800 --> 00:49:36.840
also, let's not forget when Trump
was in office, we had freezer trucks

664
00:49:36.880 --> 00:49:40.320
being used as morgs. So yeah, well you better off, not if

665
00:49:40.360 --> 00:49:45.800
you were in the morgue. Well
not if you were in the morgue,

666
00:49:45.840 --> 00:49:47.559
and not off you were. I
don't know what it is with this perception,

667
00:49:47.719 --> 00:49:53.159
but people that I'm clearly thinking should
be suffering and should have understood that

668
00:49:53.280 --> 00:49:58.880
the moment he pulled the crap he
did. Even his tariffre with China ended

669
00:49:58.960 --> 00:50:04.440
up reaping what benefits for well,
uh, everybody else. It's the co

670
00:50:04.480 --> 00:50:07.159
operations when they said, oh,
you know, you've got to buy a

671
00:50:07.159 --> 00:50:09.440
new washing machine. It's going to
cost you more money. China didn't pay

672
00:50:09.480 --> 00:50:15.199
any tariffs. Come on, becaust
Us. We paid that difference. But

673
00:50:15.320 --> 00:50:17.960
he listen, he acts like he
did something, but everything he does is

674
00:50:19.000 --> 00:50:22.880
always the reverse. Okay, he's
like he lives in bizarrow Land. So

675
00:50:23.239 --> 00:50:29.320
yeah, we're all still paying.
We're living in the wake of four years

676
00:50:29.320 --> 00:50:32.639
of that maniac. Oh and oh
the other thing, the other grenado obviously

677
00:50:32.760 --> 00:50:37.079
is uh, there was less illegal
immigrants Maria when Trump was in office.

678
00:50:37.280 --> 00:50:42.280
No, there weren't. There were
children in cages separated from their families.

679
00:50:42.639 --> 00:50:45.599
Okay, let's not remember. Let's
not forget that, which, by the

680
00:50:45.599 --> 00:50:50.639
way, now the government's paying out
huge lawsuits on that and yet they're still

681
00:50:50.679 --> 00:50:52.679
doing it, which is the best. He's a Christian, he's a Christian.

682
00:50:52.760 --> 00:50:57.880
Well, if he's a Christian a
multiple serial rapists is a Christian,

683
00:50:58.559 --> 00:51:01.000
then amaju. Well here, here's
the last funny part about all of this,

684
00:51:01.079 --> 00:51:05.039
though, is that the majority of
the people that Trump put in charge

685
00:51:05.079 --> 00:51:10.840
of every agency, everything everywhere basically
guess what still in charge under Biden and

686
00:51:12.000 --> 00:51:14.920
guess what they'll still be in charge
or if he gets back in. That's

687
00:51:14.920 --> 00:51:17.599
the funny part. See from the
post office? Okay, right, Why

688
00:51:17.679 --> 00:51:22.599
is Lewis de Joyce still in the
post office? That was another lie he

689
00:51:22.760 --> 00:51:24.159
sold the people. Have you got
to get rid of him? Have you

690
00:51:24.199 --> 00:51:28.360
tried to mail anything? I got
to tell you, I have pretty much

691
00:51:28.400 --> 00:51:32.239
stopped nailing anything. Uh. If
I need stamps, I Biden when I'm

692
00:51:32.239 --> 00:51:37.920
at the grocery store. Okay,
uh No. And I was one of

693
00:51:37.920 --> 00:51:39.519
those people that I was going to
support the post office. No, matter

694
00:51:39.599 --> 00:51:45.679
what right, But it got so
terrible that I actually caved in and start

695
00:51:45.719 --> 00:51:50.440
paying my bills online. And you
know, and of course it was a

696
00:51:50.480 --> 00:51:54.719
downturn when George the idiot King Bush
was in office and gave the Post Office

697
00:51:54.760 --> 00:51:59.639
the right to open our mail.
Well, you know, they were doing

698
00:51:59.639 --> 00:52:02.840
it with the open right to do
it before that because they had surveillance programs,

699
00:52:02.840 --> 00:52:07.440
which we all know about nowadays,
but they used to read everybody's mail.

700
00:52:07.480 --> 00:52:09.360
Anyway, it doesn't matter. But
here's the fun part about all of

701
00:52:09.400 --> 00:52:13.760
it is, no matter what you
do, these guys that they put in

702
00:52:13.840 --> 00:52:15.960
charge, the people that are generally
running this stuff, the same people from

703
00:52:15.960 --> 00:52:21.639
Trump to Biden on guess what,
the same policies are basically still in place.

704
00:52:21.679 --> 00:52:24.840
So if there's a big change,
I don't understand it because it's letting

705
00:52:24.920 --> 00:52:29.639
people. Yeah, whenever my son
gets disgusted with the situation. You know,

706
00:52:29.679 --> 00:52:31.840
I'm in Arizona. So we got
the sudden border. Now the borders

707
00:52:31.880 --> 00:52:37.719
closed between here and Rocky Point,
which is Rocky Points like part of Arizona

708
00:52:37.840 --> 00:52:39.840
for a lot of people. So
if they're planning to go to spend Christmas

709
00:52:39.880 --> 00:52:44.760
at their home and Rocky Point they're
not going And my son continues, you

710
00:52:44.840 --> 00:52:46.440
know what, are they gonna do
something about these migrants when? And I

711
00:52:46.519 --> 00:52:52.079
keep telling them the same thing.
When you have an issue that has lasted

712
00:52:52.159 --> 00:52:55.559
this long, I mean this is
decades. Yeah, they don't do anything

713
00:52:55.800 --> 00:53:01.599
because they don't want to. That's
the right. There's a solution to everything.

714
00:53:01.639 --> 00:53:06.960
So when something drags on really long, it's because they don't want to

715
00:53:07.000 --> 00:53:10.280
fix it. They don't want to
fix the homeless situation, okay, because

716
00:53:10.320 --> 00:53:14.559
then they can keep us fighting and
arguing amongst each other. Why take that

717
00:53:14.599 --> 00:53:16.400
from us? See, that's the
last thing here I wanted to say,

718
00:53:16.440 --> 00:53:20.719
which is, Look, you and
I can overlap very easily, both being

719
00:53:20.719 --> 00:53:25.239
cognitively aware when Ronald Reagan was in
office and another Sanisle man, the migrant

720
00:53:25.320 --> 00:53:30.199
issue and a lot of these issues
that existed right then and there. Guess

721
00:53:30.199 --> 00:53:34.039
how much they've improved since then.
Not at all. It doesn't matter.

722
00:53:34.119 --> 00:53:37.519
Oh what when the left is in
charge. This happens when the right George

723
00:53:37.559 --> 00:53:42.480
that it's it's the it's the oh
man, it's the Bill Hicks skitch a

724
00:53:42.519 --> 00:53:45.360
sketch. Well, you know what, Lewis Black, the comedian. Yeah,

725
00:53:45.920 --> 00:53:50.199
I was watching a PC. He
did on being old getting older,

726
00:53:50.440 --> 00:53:52.920
right, and he talked about he
said, you know he's sixty and I

727
00:53:52.960 --> 00:53:58.239
think he said sixty two, sixty
four And he said, you know who's

728
00:53:58.239 --> 00:54:02.280
talking about politics and issues then never
get resolved. And he said, you

729
00:54:02.320 --> 00:54:06.639
know, I've been hearing this migrant
stuff since I was a boy. It's

730
00:54:06.639 --> 00:54:08.719
never gotten fixed, right, he
says, And for all you young people

731
00:54:08.760 --> 00:54:13.719
in the audience, long after you're
dead, they're still going to have you

732
00:54:13.840 --> 00:54:17.760
arguing over a bush yep. Okay, And there's so much truth. But

733
00:54:17.840 --> 00:54:23.039
it's a shame that the comedians are
telling us more truth than we're ever going

734
00:54:23.119 --> 00:54:28.280
to get out of our politicians.
That is the bottom line. Anyway.

735
00:54:28.440 --> 00:54:30.599
Look, I could keep and I
could keep this going for hours and hours,

736
00:54:30.639 --> 00:54:34.679
but I might one of us might
get worn out, probably me first.

737
00:54:35.199 --> 00:54:37.840
Maria dot Net go over there and
check it out. Obviously she does

738
00:54:37.880 --> 00:54:43.239
a lot of stuff over there.
But the news shows are are just amazing.

739
00:54:43.360 --> 00:54:45.920
They are unique. You get news
in a blast that you get from

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nowhere else. Maria dot Net.
Plus she's got this you know, counseling

741
00:54:51.039 --> 00:54:52.920
thing she does. You should check
into that. She's running. You're still

742
00:54:52.960 --> 00:54:57.239
running that special right now, Maria. Yes, I am actually a half

743
00:54:57.320 --> 00:55:00.679
priced for consultation with me. It
could be business, be personal, it

744
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doesn't matter. Could be politics.
But there's also eight hundred dollars of real

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a true value no matter how you
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college education, and it will teach
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749
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I mean, look, you can
go over there. You can support

750
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Maria either yearly, monthly, or
you can get in on the counseling sessions,

751
00:55:30.559 --> 00:55:35.159
all that stuff at Maria spelt m
e r Ia dot net. Go

752
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over there, check it out.
Get you listen to the free show.

753
00:55:37.079 --> 00:55:39.400
If you never heard her before and
you just heard her yell here for an

754
00:55:39.400 --> 00:55:44.519
hour me to yell. But I'm
still psyched out from this morning show.

755
00:55:44.679 --> 00:55:47.280
It's okay, but listen, I'm
Italian. I get very passionate over these

756
00:55:47.320 --> 00:55:52.800
things. And you know, listen, I love people, and I hate

757
00:55:52.840 --> 00:55:58.360
seeing people go after each other the
way that they are being afraid to even

758
00:55:58.400 --> 00:56:04.199
express their own opinions because of this
political McCarthyism going on exactly. This is

759
00:56:04.280 --> 00:56:07.880
not the way we were meant to
live people, And if you agree with

760
00:56:07.960 --> 00:56:12.039
me, we need to get proactive
and take the fight where it belongs.

761
00:56:12.440 --> 00:56:15.679
Right. And a lot of these
labels that people slap onto each other and

762
00:56:15.719 --> 00:56:20.239
slap onto themselves really are supposed to
be verbs. That means it's a word

763
00:56:20.280 --> 00:56:23.400
of action. Much like Maria would
agree that, you know, Christian needs

764
00:56:23.440 --> 00:56:25.920
to be more of a verb than
it ever was. You need to do

765
00:56:27.000 --> 00:56:30.480
those things instead of just spouting off
about them. Yeah, it's not just

766
00:56:30.519 --> 00:56:31.920
that, and I don't want to
be judging. There's a lot of people

767
00:56:32.000 --> 00:56:37.159
that are speaking about certain you know, ideals and things like that and literally

768
00:56:37.199 --> 00:56:40.320
talking out of the other side of
their mouth. You're you're pro peace,

769
00:56:40.440 --> 00:56:45.320
you're against war, but you want
to arm the Israelis. You know what,

770
00:56:45.400 --> 00:56:49.760
you're against a bully picking on a
smaller country. But you don't want

771
00:56:49.800 --> 00:56:52.880
to get a side with anybody but
Russia. You want to get involved in

772
00:56:52.960 --> 00:56:57.760
certain things, but you know what, your pro life until the baby's born.

773
00:56:58.519 --> 00:57:02.639
Do me a favor, for get
some consistency back in your actions.

774
00:57:02.880 --> 00:57:06.360
And the other thing is you can
support of Shelli dot com, by the

775
00:57:06.360 --> 00:57:08.519
way, and I have a whole
new set of stuff over there where you

776
00:57:08.559 --> 00:57:14.280
can get on to the to the
supporter wall if you like, similar to

777
00:57:14.320 --> 00:57:16.079
what Maria has, although I'm a
little cheaper. I mean, after all,

778
00:57:16.119 --> 00:57:20.119
i don't have as long a track
record, but I've been around for

779
00:57:20.159 --> 00:57:25.800
ten years doing this and my structure
and your support is absolutely essential because I

780
00:57:25.800 --> 00:57:30.119
don't take any corporate money, no
corporate money, only listeners support. And

781
00:57:30.440 --> 00:57:34.320
if you guys aren't doing it,
then it won't be here and I won't

782
00:57:34.320 --> 00:57:37.519
be here. That's the way it
goes. But anyway, Maria dot Net,

783
00:57:37.039 --> 00:57:40.360
same circumstance, except she has that
counseling thing. I don't do that,

784
00:57:40.880 --> 00:57:45.960
but I might. Look I'm willing
to if somebody wants to pay me,

785
00:57:45.000 --> 00:57:52.119
I'll do it also, But dance, but the seventhils listen, I'll

786
00:57:52.199 --> 00:57:57.519
dance. I'm flooding mainstream media.
You're part of the problem, okay,

787
00:57:57.760 --> 00:58:02.960
exactly, So these corporate cores instead
of local mom and pop shops, you

788
00:58:04.039 --> 00:58:07.239
too, part of the problem.
Exactly. And when it got really understand

789
00:58:07.320 --> 00:58:10.280
that you've got two votes that really
matter. It's when you vote with your

790
00:58:10.320 --> 00:58:15.199
FOURK and when you vote with your
dollar. Absolutely true. And again,

791
00:58:16.119 --> 00:58:20.599
you know you need to support the
people that support your right to think freely,

792
00:58:21.079 --> 00:58:24.079
and we do that, and we
encourage you to look at certain things

793
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that nobody else will. It is
rare. It's not alternative media. It

794
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is independent because we're not tied to
anybody else. We're not beholding anybody else,

795
00:58:35.440 --> 00:58:37.800
and that's the way it is.
So Maria dot Net also Ocelly dot

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com, please please consider supporting us, especially if you appreciate it. Even

797
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getting passionately angry at the conversation tonight, at least we got a reaction out

798
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of you, and we gave you
something and didn't just spoon feed you propaganda.

799
00:58:52.920 --> 00:58:57.039
We had a conversation and that's what
made you think that was our goal.

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That's it, Revelation through conversation.
Go visit the mouth that roars at

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Maria dot Net. Revelation through conversation
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the mouth that roars and you heard
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803
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this with me, my pleasure.
You take care of check with talks down.

804
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Absolutely and I'm gonna come back in
another segment here, guys and throw

805
00:59:16.400 --> 00:59:20.400
a few more things up against the
wall and see what sticks stick around.

806
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Is one with you? Join them? First? Join yes? When you

819
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820
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821
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your hate. If they are poor, talk to them of publicly, if

822
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823
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give them objects for their anger.
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824
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this, most of the essence is
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825
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837
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about the Jafay assassination. Right,
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838
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Baker's wild claim Oswald girlfriends he knew
Ruby and Barry handsy weapons. Really,

839
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I imagine I could claim I have
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840
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845
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in case you're still listening to the
live stream where you've been going through the

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commercials and saying to yourself, that's
probably the end of the podcast, it

858
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is not. We're gonna go to
another segment in just a moment, So

859
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stick around, and I'm gonna try
and give you a brief, a sort

860
01:04:23.760 --> 01:04:29.119
of concise, quick summation education about
a particular topic that is of interest.

861
01:04:29.480 --> 01:04:32.760
Due to the fact that we see
the return of jonestown to the Twitter x

862
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platform, so stick around, the
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Com. The War State by Michael
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864
01:05:14.760 --> 01:05:17.920
place and put the Kennedy presidency in
the context of the times, and reveals

865
01:05:18.000 --> 01:05:23.960
never before published information about the Cuban
missile crisis. President Kennedy would not have

866
01:05:24.000 --> 01:05:28.719
been assassinated if he had been president
two hundred years ago. His assassination took

867
01:05:28.719 --> 01:05:31.599
place in the context of the Cold
War and the rise of the national security

868
01:05:31.639 --> 01:05:35.559
state. Before World War II,
the United States was a continental republic.

869
01:05:35.880 --> 01:05:41.039
In the decade that followed, it
became an imperial superpower. Generals such as

870
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Curtis LeMay not only wanted to invade
Cuba, but knew that there were short

871
01:05:45.199 --> 01:05:48.639
range missiles on the island armed with
nuclear warheads that they could not destroy because

872
01:05:48.639 --> 01:05:53.480
they were on mobile launchers. Their
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873
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War, and they wanted to go
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874
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Michael Swanson reveals why and will show
you what President Kennedy was up against.

875
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For more information, the War State
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876
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He's Chuck Shelley. You know what
is Charco Shelley. You are about doing?

877
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Marking upon the great you, says
the eyes of the world out upon

878
01:06:34.360 --> 01:06:41.199
you. The hopes and prayers of
liberty loving people everywhere march with you in

879
01:06:41.320 --> 01:06:45.000
company with our braid allies and brothers
in arms. On the other front,

880
01:06:45.199 --> 01:06:49.119
your task will not be an easy
one. Your enemy is well trained,

881
01:06:49.400 --> 01:06:55.440
well equipped, and battle heart.
He will fight, Sava demanded the man.

882
01:06:57.039 --> 01:07:00.079
The tide has turned. The free
men of the world are marketing together

883
01:07:00.199 --> 01:07:05.639
to fingering good nun, and let
us all be thinking the blessing of almighty

884
01:07:05.679 --> 01:07:15.840
Gods upon this great and noble under
saying. So here we are on a

885
01:07:15.880 --> 01:07:18.960
Tuesday, a tearsday, and I
thank Maria Heller for having joined me in

886
01:07:19.000 --> 01:07:23.760
the first hour. But we're going
to continue on here with a brief discussion

887
01:07:24.239 --> 01:07:29.079
something that appears to need to be
known by the listener out there, because

888
01:07:29.400 --> 01:07:33.000
I think a lot of you guys
do not know this history, and it's

889
01:07:33.280 --> 01:07:39.199
about something of interest I think.
See today we're confronted with a whole lot

890
01:07:39.239 --> 01:07:43.039
of these podcasters out there and broadcasters, et cetera, who are out there

891
01:07:43.039 --> 01:07:46.280
doing their little thing, and they
get together and they have group conversations,

892
01:07:46.320 --> 01:07:50.519
mostly about opinions and things that you
know, they don't know much about.

893
01:07:51.199 --> 01:07:55.159
They try and read in on a
couple of things. They spout a couple

894
01:07:55.159 --> 01:08:00.679
of good catchphrases, but here's the
truth of it. They're really the rejects

895
01:08:00.800 --> 01:08:06.800
of the Rush Limbaugh media the Rush
Limbaugh media, that that thing which grew

896
01:08:06.880 --> 01:08:13.679
out of originally what was just exclusively
right wing media on the am radio stations

897
01:08:13.960 --> 01:08:17.279
where Rush gave away his program and
really innovated something there was able to link

898
01:08:17.319 --> 01:08:23.760
together that which only existed on the
local level and in community radio stations at

899
01:08:23.800 --> 01:08:27.239
a certain point. But we need
to go back further in time than the

900
01:08:27.319 --> 01:08:32.520
days of the establishment of the EIB
network. What happened here is that there

901
01:08:32.560 --> 01:08:36.760
were community networks. There was local
radio, there were activists, There were

902
01:08:36.840 --> 01:08:44.600
college radio stations that appeared to broadcast
independent thought, independent programming, stuff like

903
01:08:44.680 --> 01:08:48.880
that, And there were small community
radio stations where people like may Brussel could

904
01:08:48.880 --> 01:08:54.840
put out a program of interest,
where conspiracy theory was not quite yet a

905
01:08:54.840 --> 01:08:59.119
dirty word, because the CIA had
not done a good enough job slapping that

906
01:08:59.199 --> 01:09:03.439
label onto warm Commission critics just yet. But anyway, there were people out

907
01:09:03.479 --> 01:09:08.439
there doing truly independent stuff, things
that were unique, things that were outside

908
01:09:08.479 --> 01:09:14.960
of the mainstream in truth and the
alternative media was actually born of the rebellious,

909
01:09:15.039 --> 01:09:18.880
mostly left wing in all honesty media
that was out there speaking against the

910
01:09:19.000 --> 01:09:26.520
establishment. There was a time when
people did just speak against the establishment.

911
01:09:26.600 --> 01:09:30.239
Now I'm not mister romanticized the hippie
dippy trade, days of old of your

912
01:09:30.399 --> 01:09:36.640
etc. No, because that wasn't
reality. That would they glorify in the

913
01:09:36.640 --> 01:09:42.680
movie Woodstock and try and show you
as the time when social upheaval actually changed

914
01:09:42.680 --> 01:09:46.680
the world and they got us out
of Vietnam and all that other BS is

915
01:09:46.880 --> 01:09:51.359
just that BS. There was left
wing radicalism in this country, that's for

916
01:09:51.479 --> 01:09:57.680
sure, But there was another alternative
to that thought process that didn't involve you

917
01:09:57.680 --> 01:10:01.279
know, the weatherman, underground bombings
and things like this. There was something

918
01:10:01.279 --> 01:10:06.199
that didn't involve the violence of pick
aside either the Klan or the alleged liberals

919
01:10:06.439 --> 01:10:13.319
who were there to enslave people by
making them dependent upon the state, upon

920
01:10:13.560 --> 01:10:15.399
this and that and the third thing. No, indeed, there was a

921
01:10:15.399 --> 01:10:19.800
different political stripe out there. There
was a free thinking stripe out there,

922
01:10:19.840 --> 01:10:26.560
represented by a whole lot of people
who were confined almost exclusively to the local

923
01:10:26.680 --> 01:10:33.600
level of broadcasting. And once that
emerged and people got into some shortwave radio

924
01:10:33.720 --> 01:10:39.560
and things like this and were able
to broadcast independently from what they would later

925
01:10:39.600 --> 01:10:44.319
call micro stations, small AM and
FM stations, some of them licensed,

926
01:10:44.319 --> 01:10:48.640
some of them semi licensed, some
of them not the days of pirate radio.

927
01:10:49.800 --> 01:10:55.319
This kind of thing happened. And
at the same time there was access

928
01:10:55.520 --> 01:10:59.039
to the cable stations, which were
growing quite well, and you had what

929
01:10:59.279 --> 01:11:06.079
was called local access TV. These
things allowed you to broadcast your niche interests.

930
01:11:06.680 --> 01:11:13.600
You know, the strange thing that
was represented in Family Guy some years

931
01:11:13.640 --> 01:11:15.800
back in one of the early seasons, where there's a guy on there who

932
01:11:15.840 --> 01:11:20.399
does you know? A kiss fan
show on the local TV access that is

933
01:11:20.439 --> 01:11:27.119
the forerunner to today's modern podcast,
where any niche interest could find a home

934
01:11:27.279 --> 01:11:30.079
on a cable access station if you
had a couple of bucks to buy the

935
01:11:30.119 --> 01:11:35.920
airtime, and your costs might vary
depending on your location. So all of

936
01:11:35.920 --> 01:11:42.560
that was going on, and there
was truly rebellious thought, underground publications,

937
01:11:42.560 --> 01:11:46.640
etc. And these things were coming
together rather nicely in an organic real world

938
01:11:46.640 --> 01:11:51.760
three D way. People were trading
tapes of these things, sending around the

939
01:11:51.800 --> 01:11:57.359
May Brussel tapes which she did herself, sending around the tapes of Bill Cooper

940
01:11:57.880 --> 01:12:00.960
and the likes of those people that
would start to podcast stuff. Sure.

941
01:12:00.439 --> 01:12:08.119
The heyday the nineties an interesting time
when digital media was really just birthing itself,

942
01:12:09.039 --> 01:12:14.520
and we were dealing with still open
air broadcast CBE radio still existed.

943
01:12:14.600 --> 01:12:18.439
I mean, it was an odd
Wild West sort of time when alternative ideas

944
01:12:18.479 --> 01:12:24.079
were confined to the less than established, the less than the corporate media,

945
01:12:24.159 --> 01:12:30.600
the smaller outlets that were still independent
and stood strong until the days when these

946
01:12:30.640 --> 01:12:35.159
things all started to coagulate together.
They all started to be aggregated one way

947
01:12:35.239 --> 01:12:42.000
or another. Massive new networks on
television and in radio were born, and

948
01:12:42.079 --> 01:12:46.439
it was time for the alternative to
find another place because independent printing became a

949
01:12:46.439 --> 01:12:53.000
little more meanstream independent radio became a
thing too, and then went away because

950
01:12:53.319 --> 01:12:58.000
those radio stations were bought up by
these massive conglomerates. There was a time

951
01:12:58.039 --> 01:13:01.239
in which you weren't allowed to own
more than one v station if they were

952
01:13:01.239 --> 01:13:04.960
within a certain area. As opposed
to completely dominating a map from end to

953
01:13:05.079 --> 01:13:11.079
end. Rupert Murdoch came along created
the Fox Network. Stuff like that happened

954
01:13:11.079 --> 01:13:15.000
because of the circumstances that were there. But back to the alternative story.

955
01:13:15.880 --> 01:13:20.800
The Bill Coopers and the may Brussels
of the wild West, the people that

956
01:13:20.880 --> 01:13:27.319
had the overnight talk show in your
locality, in your local place. Maybe

957
01:13:27.319 --> 01:13:30.600
it was only county wide, but
they got out there. Maybe it was

958
01:13:30.640 --> 01:13:33.279
only good enough, the transmitter was
only strong enough to cover two towns.

959
01:13:33.640 --> 01:13:38.880
Whatever. Some of those people bought
their time on radio and then would go

960
01:13:38.920 --> 01:13:41.960
out and do call in shows or
whatever it was they wanted to do with

961
01:13:42.039 --> 01:13:47.319
their time. It was still all
happening in an organic three D way until

962
01:13:47.359 --> 01:13:54.000
the Internet came along, and the
idea of introducing sound into the equation was

963
01:13:54.159 --> 01:13:58.760
almost alien, not just being able
to download songs and stuff like that,

964
01:13:59.239 --> 01:14:03.720
but literal things that they would later
call podcasts, which was just audio on

965
01:14:03.840 --> 01:14:10.359
the Internet. For a while,
those things became the home of the alternative.

966
01:14:11.199 --> 01:14:15.039
Those things became part of what was
broadcast all the way up to just

967
01:14:15.359 --> 01:14:20.600
what do you think the time when
nine to eleven came and the idea that

968
01:14:20.640 --> 01:14:25.199
the Grand transmission tower fell off at
the top of the towers and all of

969
01:14:25.239 --> 01:14:29.039
that, it was symbolic of what
was yet to come, because in nineteen

970
01:14:29.119 --> 01:14:34.359
ninety nine, this guy named Alex
Jones would turn around and be anointed at

971
01:14:34.359 --> 01:14:39.800
some point soon as the leader of
the alternative media. Jonestown would become the

972
01:14:39.840 --> 01:14:44.000
thing. See I told you I'd
get back around to this reintroduction of him

973
01:14:44.039 --> 01:14:48.159
into the mainstream once again via X
But we're not there yet because I'm only

974
01:14:48.159 --> 01:14:54.680
in the late nineties. So in
ninety nine, Alex Jones has his local

975
01:14:54.720 --> 01:14:58.800
TV show, he's gotten himself a
radio show, he's starting to make films.

976
01:14:59.159 --> 01:15:02.960
He is suddenly being funded quite well
and getting himself in line to be

977
01:15:03.119 --> 01:15:11.760
something else. And he's on,
ironically, a radio station called KJFK until

978
01:15:11.760 --> 01:15:15.680
he was fired. What was he
fired for? Well, there's a lot

979
01:15:15.680 --> 01:15:17.920
of different controversies about what he was
fired for, but is it all that

980
01:15:18.000 --> 01:15:25.399
important? Alex Jones does play a
role here because info wars after he makes

981
01:15:25.399 --> 01:15:30.720
sure it's an excellent sweatshop from putting
out alternative things one way or another through

982
01:15:30.760 --> 01:15:35.479
a lucrative mail order business. He
also had it in support of his radio

983
01:15:35.600 --> 01:15:41.560
career, and that would kind of
tank when he was fired from the mainstream

984
01:15:41.680 --> 01:15:46.960
radio stations. And then this outfit
called GCN. Okay, uh, what

985
01:15:47.119 --> 01:15:51.000
was it actually named. Let me
think about it. Genesis Radio Network,

986
01:15:51.079 --> 01:15:57.399
right, Genesis, Genesis Communications Network
something like this. Anyway, the Genesis

987
01:15:57.399 --> 01:16:01.960
Network, which was actually started by
guy very much like Tony Rdburn is today

988
01:16:02.000 --> 01:16:06.640
where he's got his gold and silver
concerns, and then he's building radio around

989
01:16:06.720 --> 01:16:12.239
that, podcasts around that in order
to support guess what, his gold and

990
01:16:12.319 --> 01:16:19.680
silver business. Very similar way,
this guy would create the Genesis Radio Network.

991
01:16:19.720 --> 01:16:24.319
Now, Alex Jones is not the
only feature to the Genesis GCN,

992
01:16:25.199 --> 01:16:30.640
But in this time period when that
happened, there were actual alternatives presented to

993
01:16:30.720 --> 01:16:34.039
the thing that was out there to
just sell gold and silver and then later

994
01:16:34.119 --> 01:16:40.399
on different tangy tangerine health products,
alleged health products, you know, shout

995
01:16:40.399 --> 01:16:44.680
out to Mike Adams, the Health
Ranger. There was a time period there

996
01:16:44.720 --> 01:16:48.600
where there was competition. Now Alex
Jones had gone out of his way to

997
01:16:48.640 --> 01:16:55.800
crush people and do all sorts of
unfair, dirty, underhanded things to knock

998
01:16:55.840 --> 01:17:05.479
away most of his alternative competitors,
who certainly offered a different thing from the

999
01:17:05.520 --> 01:17:12.960
mainstream. Now, was it good
information sometimes yes? Was it also bad

1000
01:17:12.960 --> 01:17:17.119
information sometimes yes? Was it a
lot of personal grudges and gripes? And

1001
01:17:17.159 --> 01:17:24.640
did he instantly build an empire?
Absolutely? Because from being fired to straight

1002
01:17:24.680 --> 01:17:28.960
on getting another one hundred stations to
pick you up when you were only really

1003
01:17:29.000 --> 01:17:33.520
big on one is a pretty amazing
feat, especially back before two thousand and

1004
01:17:33.600 --> 01:17:39.800
one and nine to eleven comes along
to amp up the interest, and Jones

1005
01:17:39.840 --> 01:17:42.960
right away is on that. He
was also right on the whole y two

1006
01:17:43.079 --> 01:17:47.640
K thing in ninety nine, all
over these things as a broadcaster in one

1007
01:17:47.680 --> 01:17:53.399
of the good markets there in Texas. Absolutely he was in the right place

1008
01:17:53.439 --> 01:18:00.279
at the right time, and somebody
showed up literally with boxes of gold to

1009
01:18:00.399 --> 01:18:04.880
what he was doing. Now,
I know this from a conglomeration of different

1010
01:18:05.159 --> 01:18:09.000
sources. I know this story,
but I got to tell you there's a

1011
01:18:09.000 --> 01:18:12.359
whole lot to it that I'm not
going to cover because I can't verify it

1012
01:18:12.399 --> 01:18:15.039
and wouldn't want you to think for
any moment that I'm imagining any of it.

1013
01:18:15.199 --> 01:18:20.880
Let's talk about what's publicly observable.
Alex Jones emerged, and then a

1014
01:18:20.920 --> 01:18:26.920
whole bunch of do it yourself facilities
emerged, your blog, talk radios,

1015
01:18:26.960 --> 01:18:30.039
your talk shoes, all of that
stuff, and a variety of independent,

1016
01:18:31.159 --> 01:18:39.279
independent, truly outside of the left
or the right paradigm's control radio type entities

1017
01:18:39.279 --> 01:18:45.720
would emerge when broadcasting became much more
accessible through our friends at SHOUTcast and ice

1018
01:18:45.800 --> 01:18:49.760
cast and other facilities that no longer
exist to the average guy all of a

1019
01:18:49.800 --> 01:18:56.399
sudden, if you weren't good enough
to be able to secure a job like

1020
01:18:56.520 --> 01:19:00.359
Jones did and then get fired from
it and then be the controversial figure that

1021
01:19:00.479 --> 01:19:03.279
could get pushed afterwards, or if
you weren't in the position of doing what

1022
01:19:03.359 --> 01:19:08.399
Bill Cooper did, which was effectively
set up a situation where he had his

1023
01:19:08.439 --> 01:19:15.119
own broadcast center make cooperative deals with
real world physical terrestrial radio, et cetera,

1024
01:19:15.159 --> 01:19:17.880
et cetera, which, by the
way, again dealers in gold and

1025
01:19:17.920 --> 01:19:21.319
silver had to do with the rise
of Bill Cooper as well. He had

1026
01:19:21.359 --> 01:19:27.800
the Swiss Company or whatever it was
behind him. So the people that want

1027
01:19:27.840 --> 01:19:30.119
to sell gold and silver, they
found an opportunity, and they found another,

1028
01:19:30.159 --> 01:19:34.840
and another and another, and they
would find more opportunities, again supporting

1029
01:19:35.039 --> 01:19:47.600
actual independent people who were not blessed
with angel funding, who were not excuse

1030
01:19:47.640 --> 01:19:57.960
me, Alex Jones simultaneously able to
access deep pockets from a gold and silver

1031
01:19:58.079 --> 01:20:02.159
guy from a massive network almost around
him. Not just that, but also

1032
01:20:03.399 --> 01:20:09.079
tell his listeners that they needed to
fund it as well, giving birth to

1033
01:20:09.119 --> 01:20:14.960
the idea that somebody outside of your
community radio station, because I harken back

1034
01:20:15.000 --> 01:20:17.600
to those your community radio stations used
to say, look, we won't even

1035
01:20:17.640 --> 01:20:21.119
run commercials, or will run very
cheap commercials, or will run very few

1036
01:20:21.159 --> 01:20:25.920
commercials, or we'll just run public
service announcements. And here's what we're going

1037
01:20:26.000 --> 01:20:31.079
to do. Pledge donate keep our
station running. Those were real world things.

1038
01:20:31.159 --> 01:20:34.520
I mean, I don't think they
hardly exist anywhere now, but they

1039
01:20:34.560 --> 01:20:40.199
were real world things too. So
Jones really picked up on that and said,

1040
01:20:40.359 --> 01:20:45.000
you know, here's the innovation.
Not only can I accept the corporate

1041
01:20:45.079 --> 01:20:50.239
sponsorship through unfair business practices, turn
around and screw over the people that you

1042
01:20:50.279 --> 01:20:56.279
know, I'm getting most of my
conspiracy theory material through the authors that self

1043
01:20:56.279 --> 01:20:59.880
publish, the people that print their
own DVDs, the individuals who put their

1044
01:20:59.880 --> 01:21:02.840
own own money in for their own
conferences, all of that stuff. The

1045
01:21:02.840 --> 01:21:09.039
people that were manufacturing vhs is still
back then, even for their own purposes

1046
01:21:09.079 --> 01:21:12.840
to sell their ideas. He would
take unfair advantage of them. You want

1047
01:21:12.840 --> 01:21:15.840
to be in the infohoer's stewart,
well, you're gonna have to give it

1048
01:21:15.840 --> 01:21:17.920
to us at such a cut rate. Then you're not going to make any

1049
01:21:17.920 --> 01:21:20.560
money. But think of all the
exposure and all the sales you're going to

1050
01:21:20.600 --> 01:21:27.760
get how you'll be able to spread
your ideas almost as attractive as what they

1051
01:21:27.760 --> 01:21:30.560
did on the community radio stations right
where you could come in and you could

1052
01:21:30.600 --> 01:21:33.880
just buy some time and run it
no commercials, or put your own commercials

1053
01:21:33.920 --> 01:21:38.680
on there, do it any way
you want. And if you want this

1054
01:21:38.760 --> 01:21:42.239
facility to continue, you want us
to be able to pay salaries and up

1055
01:21:42.279 --> 01:21:46.000
our FCC license and whatever else.
And you like having us as part of

1056
01:21:46.039 --> 01:21:49.399
the community, because that's the real
purpose of the public service announcements and the

1057
01:21:49.439 --> 01:21:54.079
school closings. You know exactly what's
going on, will tell you how to

1058
01:21:54.119 --> 01:21:57.760
avoid the construction because we have the
schedule in advance. Hell well, even

1059
01:21:57.800 --> 01:22:00.880
because we're only in a couple of
towns, tell you about garbage delivery.

1060
01:22:00.880 --> 01:22:06.600
It's fine. We serve a public
service to these local small towns. Especially

1061
01:22:09.159 --> 01:22:13.520
well, Jones serves you a service
the information that you can't get anywhere else.

1062
01:22:13.680 --> 01:22:18.319
So not only does he have the
angel backing, massive financial backing from

1063
01:22:18.359 --> 01:22:24.600
his Gold and Silver buddies, and
maybe some other streams of revenue that we

1064
01:22:24.640 --> 01:22:29.479
don't necessarily know about publicly, but
that's okay. He took all of that

1065
01:22:29.600 --> 01:22:32.960
and then convinced the listeners that they
were part of it too, so they

1066
01:22:33.039 --> 01:22:39.000
were able to fund this directly and
be at what the tip of the spear,

1067
01:22:39.039 --> 01:22:45.239
he would say, to fight the
info war. And indeed you felt

1068
01:22:45.239 --> 01:22:49.319
that way, you became an infowarrior
yourself, much like I encourage people today

1069
01:22:49.359 --> 01:22:54.840
even to be the effect. Now
I'm not saying I stole it from Jones,

1070
01:22:54.920 --> 01:22:58.279
not at all, but the idea
is sound. If you have a

1071
01:22:58.319 --> 01:23:00.640
stake in this, you might want
to invest in this, and I hope

1072
01:23:00.680 --> 01:23:04.760
that people do feel that way when
it comes to my network. It's not

1073
01:23:04.920 --> 01:23:11.920
an unsound idea, not just out
of business, but from a moral standpoint.

1074
01:23:12.039 --> 01:23:16.359
Why not amplify people's voices, get
at things they want covered, get

1075
01:23:16.359 --> 01:23:23.399
them information that they desire that no
one else will provide them. And if

1076
01:23:23.439 --> 01:23:27.039
I'm going to do that work,
I have a right. I have a

1077
01:23:27.680 --> 01:23:30.880
legitimate claim to say, if you
want to support this, please do And

1078
01:23:30.920 --> 01:23:35.239
you have a right to do it
or not, and I appreciate those of

1079
01:23:35.279 --> 01:23:41.239
you that do. But back to
it, we're only into the era where

1080
01:23:41.279 --> 01:23:45.279
this would then explode. People took
that template and they ran with it,

1081
01:23:45.319 --> 01:23:48.319
and you gotta be honest that even
though I don't want any part of that

1082
01:23:48.439 --> 01:23:54.960
mind controls cesspool and I don't want
to know anything about what the latest is

1083
01:23:54.960 --> 01:24:00.199
out of there, it is something
to look at with an astonished grin and

1084
01:24:00.279 --> 01:24:02.720
say, you know what, that's
a pattern that could be replicated. So

1085
01:24:02.840 --> 01:24:10.159
people tried to do it through Orion
Broadcasting, through Oracle Broadcasting, through Republic

1086
01:24:10.239 --> 01:24:15.600
Broadcasting Network, which still exists now, through We the People Radio, through

1087
01:24:15.640 --> 01:24:19.239
American Freedom Radio, through Yes I
mentioned the place I used to work with,

1088
01:24:19.479 --> 01:24:26.520
through all of these alternative channels that
for the most part saw this template

1089
01:24:26.560 --> 01:24:30.760
and said I can replicate. Why
can't I do it as well? And

1090
01:24:30.800 --> 01:24:38.640
then the do it yourself is the
DYI. People got their wishes granted with

1091
01:24:39.520 --> 01:24:42.960
the facilities like blog, talk radio, et cetera. Do it yourself speaker,

1092
01:24:43.039 --> 01:24:48.119
now do it yourself radio, go
on to your own blog. YouTube

1093
01:24:48.159 --> 01:24:53.920
starts to emerge because now we're moving
just out of the early early two thousands

1094
01:24:53.920 --> 01:24:57.640
into the mid and later two thousands, and YouTube showed up. So now

1095
01:24:58.680 --> 01:25:01.800
it's a YouTube tube. The tube
has you on it now. They used

1096
01:25:01.840 --> 01:25:05.880
to call television the boob tube because
it actually had tubes in it at one

1097
01:25:05.920 --> 01:25:09.680
point, and it was said that
it would turn you into a boob.

1098
01:25:10.159 --> 01:25:13.840
Not a literal breast, mind you, but somebody who doesn't think because you're

1099
01:25:13.880 --> 01:25:17.239
being entertained and constantly slammed with the
flicker rate off of the television. And

1100
01:25:17.439 --> 01:25:20.800
it is the boob tube. So
instead of the boob tube, how about

1101
01:25:20.840 --> 01:25:26.640
the YouTube? Why is it the
YouTube because you are the one on it?

1102
01:25:28.000 --> 01:25:31.159
So have your own TV show,
come on and make videos. And

1103
01:25:31.239 --> 01:25:35.600
we all know how that has reshaped
society. But put the video thing aside.

1104
01:25:35.680 --> 01:25:42.319
Momentarily, all of these things emerge
organically as they did in the three

1105
01:25:42.399 --> 01:25:47.439
D world, now in the virtual
and again all of these great things like

1106
01:25:47.479 --> 01:25:55.479
the micro effect network, which was
a really serious what should we call it,

1107
01:25:55.560 --> 01:26:02.000
a collaboration between the three D world
broadcasting and the virtual or the internet

1108
01:26:02.000 --> 01:26:05.720
world where they put it up on
the Internet. Yes, indeed, and

1109
01:26:05.880 --> 01:26:13.199
small little tiny independent pirates whatever could
get together and relay and broadcast the same

1110
01:26:13.239 --> 01:26:16.920
thing. And the idea was that
by being many many small pieces, they

1111
01:26:16.920 --> 01:26:23.880
could come together like a massive complicated
cross between a jigsaw puzzle and a voltron

1112
01:26:25.720 --> 01:26:31.359
and become a massive network in and
of themselves. Now I enter into this

1113
01:26:31.520 --> 01:26:36.439
pray a couple of years after the
heyday of that, when alternative media was

1114
01:26:36.520 --> 01:26:43.000
still alternative because they were independent actors. And then people got involved with business,

1115
01:26:43.039 --> 01:26:46.199
and they weren't always the best business
men. And then people walked in

1116
01:26:46.319 --> 01:26:54.039
and stole technology off of each other
and bought up these entities now in order

1117
01:26:54.079 --> 01:26:57.720
to shelve them, to shut them
down. Much like we've always heard about

1118
01:26:57.760 --> 01:27:00.800
the car that could run on water
and stuff like that, where the gas

1119
01:27:00.800 --> 01:27:04.720
company comes along and buys it up
to shelve it. They did that to

1120
01:27:04.800 --> 01:27:13.239
the alternative media. So whatever Alex
Jones couldn't destroy through his unfair practices,

1121
01:27:13.279 --> 01:27:18.239
his dirty tricks, his horrible tactics
where he was taking people out and continuously

1122
01:27:18.319 --> 01:27:26.760
consuming like an all consuming storm,
that which is alternative, claiming it for

1123
01:27:26.880 --> 01:27:31.119
himself that he is the only place
where the info war can be fought.

1124
01:27:31.640 --> 01:27:35.279
He's the only general in the army
to tell you about the false left right

1125
01:27:35.319 --> 01:27:42.000
paradigm. He's the only one with
guts to go past the likes of huh

1126
01:27:42.720 --> 01:27:46.600
jeez, help us out, Art
pell and your local propagator of the strange,

1127
01:27:46.680 --> 01:27:51.079
the absurd, and the obscene.
Indeed, what were your choices,

1128
01:27:51.279 --> 01:27:59.359
Alex Jones? The mainstream corporate crap. Howard Stern, well, Howard found

1129
01:27:59.399 --> 01:28:03.079
himself some and else when you went
and got CERRUSXM and satellite radio was the

1130
01:28:03.159 --> 01:28:09.640
thing for a minute. I think
they're going bankrupt now, but still an

1131
01:28:09.680 --> 01:28:16.000
interesting time period, and radio and
broadcast entertainment and infotainment shifted once again,

1132
01:28:17.439 --> 01:28:23.319
and rightfully so, because that's where
it needed to go. Anyway, I

1133
01:28:23.479 --> 01:28:28.119
entered into the frame as a broadcaster
in twenty fourteen. But this is on

1134
01:28:28.279 --> 01:28:31.159
the backs of all these people.
In fact, one of the individuals who

1135
01:28:31.600 --> 01:28:36.840
was running owning ucy TV, which
is the first network I broadcast live from

1136
01:28:38.199 --> 01:28:43.760
on the Internet, was part of
some of those earlier alternative media outlets for

1137
01:28:43.960 --> 01:28:49.800
real that I was talking about that
were either somehow, somehow torpedoed by magically

1138
01:28:49.840 --> 01:28:55.920
appearing provocateurs who would show up and
sabotage the operation and put it under and

1139
01:28:55.960 --> 01:29:00.680
do it sometimes by buying it out
and other times by what created all kinds

1140
01:29:00.720 --> 01:29:05.960
of strife within the organization, which
was mostly voluntary and didn't contain a whole

1141
01:29:06.000 --> 01:29:13.119
lot of practical, regular old old
school business models and things like this.

1142
01:29:13.319 --> 01:29:19.119
No, it was based on something
else. Still adapting the program I talked

1143
01:29:19.119 --> 01:29:24.680
to you about before. Bring up
some ethical sponsors of some sort, bring

1144
01:29:24.720 --> 01:29:32.439
them on and have them in combination
with your listener support element, and you

1145
01:29:32.560 --> 01:29:38.039
do pretty well. They did for
a little bit, like I said,

1146
01:29:38.159 --> 01:29:43.560
until they were absolutely, willfully destroyed. Some people would say that it might

1147
01:29:43.600 --> 01:29:47.279
have something to do with the cast
Sunstein white paper that explained this is how

1148
01:29:47.319 --> 01:29:53.680
you take dissenting groups and dissenting areas
of the public, dissenting groups that are

1149
01:29:54.039 --> 01:29:59.960
forming together because they have some sort
of relation to one another via their strength

1150
01:30:00.439 --> 01:30:05.159
and atypical outside of the establishment ideals. How do you take care of this?

1151
01:30:05.319 --> 01:30:09.960
Well, you can create strife from
within. You can use provocateurs and

1152
01:30:10.039 --> 01:30:16.720
cointelpro never quite died. It just
got privatized. And the government's involved with

1153
01:30:16.760 --> 01:30:21.239
it too because they track and bust
up and everything else. But the people

1154
01:30:21.279 --> 01:30:28.600
that have now come into this way
in almost ten years after I started to

1155
01:30:28.720 --> 01:30:34.079
enter into it, the people that
are there now have absolutely nothing to do

1156
01:30:34.439 --> 01:30:39.880
with any of that history. They're
benefiting from it because they have facilities,

1157
01:30:39.920 --> 01:30:43.960
they have video platforms, they have
the ease of execution. They can now

1158
01:30:44.000 --> 01:30:47.560
just go on Twitter and broadcast a
radio show. You can create a podcast

1159
01:30:47.640 --> 01:30:53.000
out of any just about any platform
there is. Facebook allows you to go

1160
01:30:53.119 --> 01:30:59.159
live. All these things are happening
now. You're not confined to just uploading

1161
01:30:59.199 --> 01:31:01.479
your crap to YouTube you've been taking
three days to do it. No,

1162
01:31:01.520 --> 01:31:05.359
not at all. You can instantly
be a live broadcaster. As long as

1163
01:31:05.359 --> 01:31:11.159
you can get some attention, bring
some people to your broadcast. You can

1164
01:31:11.199 --> 01:31:14.800
be successful. Now if you have
a leg up immediately, like a Tucker

1165
01:31:14.840 --> 01:31:17.479
Carlson who had a name to trade
on. You can show up on Twitter

1166
01:31:17.520 --> 01:31:23.840
and launch a platform. And Tucker
Carlson has a lot to do with what

1167
01:31:23.840 --> 01:31:30.279
I'm about to tell you. The
majority of the people that are the disgruntled

1168
01:31:30.279 --> 01:31:35.319
who have now joined into what they
think is something like alternative media, have

1169
01:31:35.399 --> 01:31:41.199
nothing to do with it. They
are the infiltrators and the pretenders that were

1170
01:31:41.239 --> 01:31:45.800
there already when I got in in
twenty thirteen, that were there already,

1171
01:31:45.800 --> 01:31:53.560
And what they truly were is neocons
of the worst sort, brainwashed not by

1172
01:31:53.600 --> 01:32:01.680
the liberal agenda but by patriot mythology, foolishness, and in fact covert racism

1173
01:32:01.800 --> 01:32:09.880
and narcissism. And the majority of
them thought it was great to take Russian

1174
01:32:10.359 --> 01:32:17.800
programming from the government controlled RT and
those sorts of outlets, Sputneck and all

1175
01:32:17.800 --> 01:32:21.199
that. They have a great platform, they're great, and you know what,

1176
01:32:21.279 --> 01:32:28.279
they're willing to bash the United States
like I am, so they must

1177
01:32:28.359 --> 01:32:33.359
be telling the truth. They're truthful. And besides that, we got such

1178
01:32:33.359 --> 01:32:40.680
a weak sister in office who is
probably gay, who is black, and

1179
01:32:40.760 --> 01:32:45.920
indeed his alleged wife might be a
man. That guy, he's not my

1180
01:32:46.079 --> 01:32:51.600
leader at all. I would prefer
somebody like Putin. And that's what they

1181
01:32:51.640 --> 01:32:58.159
propagated when I came in. That's
what they were selling, the Russian idealism,

1182
01:32:58.439 --> 01:33:00.680
the fact that that white guy could
at least be a strong leader,

1183
01:33:00.800 --> 01:33:09.279
unlike the weak sister we had in
brown skin. And there you go.

1184
01:33:09.960 --> 01:33:15.119
No replacement, of course, because
everybody else say it quietly with me,

1185
01:33:15.680 --> 01:33:20.399
is a subhuman. Only white people
count, But we don't say that out

1186
01:33:20.439 --> 01:33:23.640
loud. As a matter of fact, we're going to show you how racist

1187
01:33:23.680 --> 01:33:28.640
were not by saying, look at
my Mexican friend, look at my black

1188
01:33:28.680 --> 01:33:32.119
friend. I have sex with Jewish
women. There is no way that I

1189
01:33:32.159 --> 01:33:38.560
could be evil. And here's my
podcast. And most of them sucked into

1190
01:33:38.640 --> 01:33:43.760
the John Burke society. The you
know, the likes of the stuff that

1191
01:33:43.960 --> 01:33:47.680
was propagated by the White Arian resistance, the favorite reading List, the learned

1192
01:33:48.239 --> 01:33:55.159
Elders of Zion and all of that
which literally wants to tell you stuff like,

1193
01:33:55.239 --> 01:33:59.399
you know, Jewish people have horns, and oh my goodness, why

1194
01:33:59.439 --> 01:34:08.319
not zog the Zionist occupied government is
going to take over everything. Most of

1195
01:34:08.359 --> 01:34:14.439
the conspiracy theories that are propagated out
there that have all sorts of false bottoms

1196
01:34:14.479 --> 01:34:20.439
in them and bullshit attached. Most
of them one way or another, like

1197
01:34:20.520 --> 01:34:29.079
the anti banking thing, have deep
dark ties to the White Area resistance,

1198
01:34:29.159 --> 01:34:33.039
to all those kind of groups.
That is where these ideas emerged, many

1199
01:34:33.159 --> 01:34:40.119
of them, and some people repeat
them verbatim and don't even realize that they're

1200
01:34:40.159 --> 01:34:45.439
all about taking the Turner diaries and
making them reality. They don't realize that

1201
01:34:45.520 --> 01:34:53.520
these people were able to infiltrate the
libertarian sect among us, the independent thinker

1202
01:34:53.800 --> 01:35:00.119
among us, the conspiracy theorists among
us. They were deployed truly people who

1203
01:35:00.119 --> 01:35:06.239
were in self denial about their various
levels of hate. They were deployed among

1204
01:35:08.239 --> 01:35:13.239
the others, the true outsiders,
the actual alternative. And what did they

1205
01:35:13.279 --> 01:35:20.000
do. They infiltrated. They absolutely
contaminated and destroyed that which was alternative media.

1206
01:35:20.119 --> 01:35:25.920
And by design why it had to
be done not because alternative media was

1207
01:35:25.960 --> 01:35:30.159
actually dangerous or was going to get
somewhere or accomplish something. Regarding revelations about

1208
01:35:30.239 --> 01:35:34.560
nine to eleven, the JFK assassination, the poisoning that's going on every single

1209
01:35:34.600 --> 01:35:39.319
day through our food supply, the
chemtrails, Oh no, none of that,

1210
01:35:39.960 --> 01:35:45.520
artificial clouds, any of it.
It doesn't matter. Really, that's

1211
01:35:45.720 --> 01:35:48.960
not why it had to be targeted. It had to be targeted so that

1212
01:35:49.520 --> 01:35:56.680
the facilities, the facade of alternative
media could now be represented by guess what,

1213
01:35:57.840 --> 01:36:01.560
every idiot on the planet having a
little group discussion with their buddies about

1214
01:36:01.560 --> 01:36:09.039
their ill informed conspiracy theories and about
all of this hate that they're actually propagating,

1215
01:36:09.079 --> 01:36:14.720
even though in their own hearts they
don't realize they're pushing things like eugenics

1216
01:36:14.800 --> 01:36:21.279
is correct, there are human shaped
things that are not really people of all

1217
01:36:21.399 --> 01:36:29.960
sorts. This is what they're propagating
as a constant, as a necessity,

1218
01:36:30.000 --> 01:36:31.800
and most of the time they don't
even have it in their hearts. They're

1219
01:36:32.039 --> 01:36:36.880
just parroting what they learn They think
they are alternative, they think they're outside

1220
01:36:36.920 --> 01:36:43.239
of the establishment, but what they're
actually doing is serving it with these pointless,

1221
01:36:43.319 --> 01:36:53.319
pedantic, absolutely lethargic, intellectually lethargic, intellectually lethargic, demonstrably false,

1222
01:36:53.960 --> 01:37:00.000
ridiculous things which shouldn't even make it
past a discussion group when you're trying to

1223
01:37:00.039 --> 01:37:06.319
assemble a plotline for a Hollywood movie. They put it out as fact because

1224
01:37:06.319 --> 01:37:12.319
they have their opinions that are informed
by guess what, standard right wing media,

1225
01:37:12.439 --> 01:37:15.159
not even the alternative. Oh,
except on some occasions, there are

1226
01:37:15.159 --> 01:37:20.039
people that step into those echo chambers, and now because it is the carbon

1227
01:37:20.079 --> 01:37:24.319
copy of a carbon copy and the
parroting of a parenting of a parenting,

1228
01:37:24.720 --> 01:37:29.560
are now in such a deluded way, they're actually far flung from the things

1229
01:37:29.600 --> 01:37:34.479
that contained some morsels of reality.
At some point, they don't do any

1230
01:37:34.520 --> 01:37:40.000
work. They don't try to assemble
anything of interest. Let's just get together,

1231
01:37:40.159 --> 01:37:45.359
shoot the breeze and push back and
forth the buzzwords and phrases that we've

1232
01:37:45.479 --> 01:37:53.119
learned from people who even knows if
they actually exist. We just happen to

1233
01:37:53.119 --> 01:37:56.079
see it in a YouTube video.
We just happen to hear it on a

1234
01:37:56.159 --> 01:38:01.239
podcast, so we're gonna parrot it
because it sounds authoritative, not authoritarian,

1235
01:38:01.359 --> 01:38:05.680
authoritative, but it is actually authoritarian. But I don't have time to get

1236
01:38:05.680 --> 01:38:10.720
into all that. There is an
authoritarian purpose for all this. But let's

1237
01:38:10.720 --> 01:38:17.079
get back to the destruction and the
decimation, literal decimation of what was alternative

1238
01:38:17.119 --> 01:38:24.319
media. It's gone, It's long
gone. I don't even want to be

1239
01:38:24.359 --> 01:38:28.479
called alternative. I say independent.
And I'm starting to feel bad because none

1240
01:38:28.479 --> 01:38:32.800
of these people are independent thinkers that
are out there independently with the push and

1241
01:38:32.800 --> 01:38:38.760
play, plug and play and push
and roll and tuck and roll out there

1242
01:38:38.800 --> 01:38:42.159
because they have facilities that are easier
to operate. So now you can just

1243
01:38:42.199 --> 01:38:45.279
press a couple of buttons, pay
a subscription to something in Boom, you

1244
01:38:45.359 --> 01:38:54.680
are now a star. Awesome.
Now I encourage citizen journalism, I encourage

1245
01:38:54.680 --> 01:39:00.840
citizen broadcasting. But here's the truth. These were actually right wing hate ready

1246
01:39:00.920 --> 01:39:08.359
little NPC units out there that are
now plugged into a media screen where the

1247
01:39:08.399 --> 01:39:11.319
options are endless. If you got
a couple of bucks and you're willing to

1248
01:39:11.319 --> 01:39:14.159
put in your time, and you
open up a microphone, Boom, you

1249
01:39:14.279 --> 01:39:18.359
too can be a broadcaster, no
problem. Now I don't object to that

1250
01:39:18.439 --> 01:39:24.079
necessarily, but what I do object
to it is that they are still attempting

1251
01:39:25.119 --> 01:39:30.800
to rub themselves up against to have
some of it rub off from what was

1252
01:39:32.479 --> 01:39:40.199
the now I've exhumed it, the
now rotting, stinking corpse that is long

1253
01:39:40.359 --> 01:39:45.039
left behind, so long that it
no longer stinks of the alternative media,

1254
01:39:45.119 --> 01:39:48.520
of which, by the way,
Alex Jones has survived the whole way through

1255
01:39:49.920 --> 01:39:54.520
buy design, so he could show
up and scream at you that the globalists

1256
01:39:54.560 --> 01:40:01.640
were defeated the moment that his boy
Trump got into office. Is this too

1257
01:40:01.720 --> 01:40:06.800
complex to explain to you? Is
this too much? This is the key,

1258
01:40:08.079 --> 01:40:11.760
This is why it is what it
is. This is why Jeff Rince

1259
01:40:11.880 --> 01:40:14.920
is who he is. This is
why Alex Jones is who he is.

1260
01:40:15.239 --> 01:40:17.800
This is why, of course he
was going to come back on Twitter.

1261
01:40:18.279 --> 01:40:24.600
Because the guy who makes his living
effectively from the military industrial complex, government

1262
01:40:24.640 --> 01:40:28.680
contracting and tax breaks. That's why
he's a billionaire really truthfully, well,

1263
01:40:28.680 --> 01:40:32.039
that and also being in a privileged
position Elon Musk. Of course he has

1264
01:40:32.079 --> 01:40:40.520
to bring Alex Jones back. Alex
Jones is essential to the equation He is

1265
01:40:40.640 --> 01:40:45.720
exactly the mechanism that Elon Musk needs
in order to have a fully controlled opposition.

1266
01:40:46.479 --> 01:40:51.199
Be part of the equation that will
fund Twitter, that will fund all

1267
01:40:51.239 --> 01:40:57.600
of his broadcast ambitions, that will
fund the latest wave of If you really

1268
01:40:57.640 --> 01:41:01.439
object to things, come and join
us, because we are the outsiders,

1269
01:41:01.520 --> 01:41:04.880
even though we've been put into a
privileged position, and we have extra money

1270
01:41:04.880 --> 01:41:09.960
and all this other stuff and angel
donors and billions of dollars of other people's

1271
01:41:10.000 --> 01:41:13.760
money that you could never see in
an entire lifetime, never have access to,

1272
01:41:14.159 --> 01:41:17.359
never have the privilege to violate the
laws, to flagrantly abuse people in

1273
01:41:17.399 --> 01:41:21.880
public, to break every sort of
community standard possible. All of those things

1274
01:41:23.199 --> 01:41:26.840
you can do. If you're Alex
Jones, Elon Musk, Roger Stone,

1275
01:41:27.640 --> 01:41:30.039
Donald Trump, anybody like that.
You have the privilege. You can do

1276
01:41:30.119 --> 01:41:33.199
it. You can do it all. And you know why, because you're

1277
01:41:33.239 --> 01:41:40.039
nothing more than the trained monkey for
the real controllers who needed to hijack the

1278
01:41:40.079 --> 01:41:45.319
alternative media before something dangerous happened,
like people started to think for themselves and

1279
01:41:45.359 --> 01:41:49.640
go into nuance and get away from
what has been hijacked. So now welcome

1280
01:41:49.680 --> 01:41:54.199
to the new alternative media. It's
just an extension of the right wing.

1281
01:41:55.239 --> 01:41:58.479
They tell you the liberal that the
media is liberal. It's not liberal.

1282
01:41:58.720 --> 01:42:01.920
They tell you that that stuff which
is supposedly right wing, the Fox News

1283
01:42:01.960 --> 01:42:08.520
is and all that they are not
indeed conservative. All they are are the

1284
01:42:08.640 --> 01:42:14.680
necessary functions that need to come in, the necessary outlets, the necessary compartments

1285
01:42:14.720 --> 01:42:18.840
to compartmentalize you, to give you
an idea that you are on a team.

1286
01:42:19.439 --> 01:42:23.439
You're not just rooting for the Jets. You're part of the Jets.

1287
01:42:23.439 --> 01:42:26.680
You're not just rooting for the Dallas
Cowboys. You're part of them. You

1288
01:42:26.760 --> 01:42:31.079
know why, because you are an
info warrior. You are part of this.

1289
01:42:32.199 --> 01:42:39.920
And all they've done is giving you
the idea that rooting for Hulk Hogan

1290
01:42:41.720 --> 01:42:46.640
is different than rooting for the Iron
Cheek, that rooting for Nikolai Volkov is

1291
01:42:46.680 --> 01:42:51.760
different than rooting for Sergeant Slaughter.
See at the end of the night,

1292
01:42:51.840 --> 01:42:56.439
no matter who you're root for,
no matter who you select as the crowd

1293
01:42:56.479 --> 01:42:59.439
favorite, no matter who you're booing
at, no matter who you're saying is

1294
01:42:59.439 --> 01:43:04.600
an awful human being and everything else, guess what the same corporations pay them

1295
01:43:05.479 --> 01:43:12.720
and make them for you to root
for for you to get behind. It

1296
01:43:12.800 --> 01:43:18.239
is life, WWE life. The
only people they weren't allowed to challenge was

1297
01:43:18.279 --> 01:43:26.239
the WWF, the World Widely Foundation, because now King Charles was involved.

1298
01:43:26.319 --> 01:43:30.399
And the one thing that the elitists
who have control over all of the entertainment

1299
01:43:30.479 --> 01:43:38.119
and information media can't have, The
one thing they cannot have is conflict with

1300
01:43:38.199 --> 01:43:41.840
the royalty because they are the anointed
ones. But that's yet a story for

1301
01:43:41.880 --> 01:43:46.199
another day. Again, Alternative media
destroyed by design. Alex Jones, the

1302
01:43:46.920 --> 01:43:54.800
oh what do we call it?
Yes, controlled opposition. Not because he's

1303
01:43:54.880 --> 01:43:59.159
controlled necessarily, but because he is
a mechanism by which you can be controlled.

1304
01:43:59.399 --> 01:44:01.840
He's allowed a profit, not a
problem for him to eat up one

1305
01:44:01.920 --> 01:44:09.399
hundred million dollar settlement. Billion dollar
settlement irrelevant, you know why, because

1306
01:44:09.479 --> 01:44:14.199
the generated money, the ability to
continue to play that game, all that

1307
01:44:14.279 --> 01:44:16.760
crap, which there are some people
that are so wealthy there beyond wealth.

1308
01:44:17.359 --> 01:44:23.479
That whole thing is just a job. He is their monkey for the moment,

1309
01:44:23.800 --> 01:44:28.199
and he's been doing it for thirty
years, profiteering off of guess what,

1310
01:44:28.520 --> 01:44:33.920
two things, a privileged position and
the fact that so many are addicted

1311
01:44:33.920 --> 01:44:39.760
to fear porn, so he can
sell you the fear porn, sell you

1312
01:44:39.840 --> 01:44:43.439
the hope for a new opposition,
sell you the hope that somebody who was

1313
01:44:43.479 --> 01:44:47.199
absolutely part of the establishment is now
outside of it. And at the end

1314
01:44:47.279 --> 01:44:50.399
of the day, he's still got
to sell you gold and silver because those

1315
01:44:50.479 --> 01:44:55.319
are the guys that really launched his
career. And if he's not selling the

1316
01:44:55.359 --> 01:44:57.479
gold and silver, he's got a
health product for you. And if he

1317
01:44:57.520 --> 01:45:00.600
doesn't have that, he has another
guy who was backed by Go and Silver

1318
01:45:00.680 --> 01:45:03.319
that he has to propagate one way
or another. Take a look at it.

1319
01:45:03.359 --> 01:45:09.560
It's all that or it's his library
of conspiracy theory media that he needs

1320
01:45:09.600 --> 01:45:13.359
to make sure he sells off because
he's getting it at a hell of a

1321
01:45:13.399 --> 01:45:16.359
deal. On the backside. He's
got to do that, and he's got

1322
01:45:16.359 --> 01:45:21.239
to be the king. There is
no way that you could allow independent media

1323
01:45:23.000 --> 01:45:27.800
to really take hold Tucker Carlson,
same privileged kind of guy. I think

1324
01:45:27.840 --> 01:45:31.279
he's pretty much straight up involved in
the in one of those Frozen Food dynasty

1325
01:45:31.319 --> 01:45:35.840
families. Privileged position. No matter
where he goes. He works for MSNBC,

1326
01:45:36.079 --> 01:45:40.720
works for CNN, he works for
Fox News. He can pretend that

1327
01:45:40.800 --> 01:45:43.960
he's one thing or another, but
it doesn't really matter because he knows,

1328
01:45:44.000 --> 01:45:46.520
at the end of the day,
you're all idiots, and he's just useful

1329
01:45:46.640 --> 01:45:53.520
enough to sell his crap to you, you know, much like our friend

1330
01:45:53.520 --> 01:45:58.600
over at the Blaze, same thing. These guys eventually get to split out

1331
01:45:58.680 --> 01:46:01.760
from the main corporate mlow and strike
out on their own and claim to be

1332
01:46:01.800 --> 01:46:08.560
independent media. When they built nothing, they step in because they have a

1333
01:46:08.640 --> 01:46:12.279
privileged position, and just like Joe
Rogan is going to remain on top of

1334
01:46:12.319 --> 01:46:16.279
that thing because he's useful to keep
anybody who might be trying to think outside

1335
01:46:16.479 --> 01:46:21.880
the box in the box, just
like Alex Jones, just like your friend

1336
01:46:21.880 --> 01:46:27.680
Sean Hannity, just like whoever the
hell is over on CNN anymore, just

1337
01:46:27.800 --> 01:46:31.399
like all the stooges at News Nation, just like all of the moreronic,

1338
01:46:31.600 --> 01:46:38.399
absolutely nonsensical liberals over at MSNBC.
They are all there to do one thing,

1339
01:46:39.399 --> 01:46:45.640
present to you an alleged opposition.
And if you're satisfied with being on

1340
01:46:45.680 --> 01:46:48.359
the left or right, great,
If you're satisfied with being an outsider and

1341
01:46:48.399 --> 01:46:54.119
you think you're really going for truth, well then AJ And of course the

1342
01:46:54.680 --> 01:46:57.920
oddity of I remember when Fox News
used to say it wasn't part of the

1343
01:46:57.920 --> 01:47:00.520
mainstream. The oddity of some of
those right wing talk shows that are out

1344
01:47:00.520 --> 01:47:04.800
there the occasional completely failed because it
makes no sense. That's why they can't

1345
01:47:04.840 --> 01:47:11.840
really succeed. There's no coherent ideas
at all in what they call liberalism anymore.

1346
01:47:11.920 --> 01:47:18.159
That's been removed from the equation anyway. It's all about them telling you

1347
01:47:18.239 --> 01:47:24.399
that the right wing the establishment is
not really the establishment, and you can

1348
01:47:24.439 --> 01:47:29.399
work outside of it if you join
us. The globalists were defeated, Yes

1349
01:47:29.479 --> 01:47:33.720
they were. Can I say that? I can't keep a straight face with

1350
01:47:33.720 --> 01:47:39.680
that one. The globalists were defeated. You're kidding me, right? Globalist?

1351
01:47:39.760 --> 01:47:43.039
Ay? Globalist is actually or you
know, cold for something else,

1352
01:47:44.279 --> 01:47:50.760
just like Zionism as cold for something
else. Yeah, it's not code for

1353
01:47:50.840 --> 01:47:55.159
anything. Some people think. Some
people have nuanced some people don't. And

1354
01:47:55.319 --> 01:47:59.039
if you need a brand of savior, they can give you orange Jesus.

1355
01:47:59.359 --> 01:48:02.119
They can give you the bloated ahead
of Alex Jones, or the bloated ahead

1356
01:48:02.119 --> 01:48:05.720
of Rush Limbaugh. Oh I forgot
he died. Not enough oxy cotton for

1357
01:48:05.800 --> 01:48:10.079
him, though. Tell you one
half of his brain tied behind his back

1358
01:48:10.079 --> 01:48:13.960
and the other half high on oxy
cotton. I'm surprised people listened to him

1359
01:48:13.960 --> 01:48:15.600
for as long as they did.
But he was a good presenter. Got

1360
01:48:15.720 --> 01:48:20.279
to give him that. And that's
what some people are, but not the

1361
01:48:20.359 --> 01:48:25.920
independence right now. Not good presenters. Hell I suck. I know that.

1362
01:48:27.439 --> 01:48:29.840
And at least I try and tell
you something. I don't just sit

1363
01:48:29.880 --> 01:48:31.439
around and goo. What's your opinion? Well, let's see this. Well,

1364
01:48:31.479 --> 01:48:34.600
I saw this on YouTube. This
is all I know. That's it.

1365
01:48:35.039 --> 01:48:39.520
That's all you got. Huh,
No thinking for yourself, No actual

1366
01:48:39.560 --> 01:48:43.000
research will Did you search on the
internet? That's research. No, it's

1367
01:48:43.000 --> 01:48:45.880
not real world stuff. Have you
ever seen this? Have you ever looked

1368
01:48:45.880 --> 01:48:48.680
at it? Have you ever visited
the location? Did you contact the people?

1369
01:48:48.720 --> 01:48:50.640
Do you know about the laws?
Have you read any of it?

1370
01:48:50.760 --> 01:48:55.640
No? None of it. Their
opinion based on what they saw on YouTube.

1371
01:48:57.039 --> 01:49:04.399
Their opinion based on what some other
podcasters said. Feckless, intellectually shallow,

1372
01:49:05.680 --> 01:49:15.800
emotionally devoid, soulless. And yet
the NPC's rule the broadcast world,

1373
01:49:15.800 --> 01:49:19.279
according to some, And you keep
subdividing your listeners so that you can only

1374
01:49:19.319 --> 01:49:21.880
get ten or twelve of them together, usually in a group. And that's

1375
01:49:21.880 --> 01:49:28.319
the way, it is excellent.
You're out there to try and be your

1376
01:49:28.359 --> 01:49:30.640
own independent savior, and you'll claim
you don't like Oh, I don't like

1377
01:49:30.680 --> 01:49:32.880
Trump, and I don't like the
right wing, and I don't like the

1378
01:49:32.960 --> 01:49:36.600
left wing. Give them five or
ten minutes and they will parrot one side

1379
01:49:36.600 --> 01:49:43.039
of it or the other. Because
the independent media is just not independent and

1380
01:49:43.079 --> 01:49:47.600
the alternative is dead. Like I
said, the corpse has been stinking so

1381
01:49:47.800 --> 01:49:56.079
long there isn't even a smell anymore. We might be down to the bones

1382
01:49:56.079 --> 01:50:00.520
and eventually we'll get to the dust. There's a couple of us left,

1383
01:50:01.439 --> 01:50:05.600
and I know that's sadly. This
is the only piece of ego I'm gonna

1384
01:50:05.640 --> 01:50:10.119
lay on you. I'm one of
them. I think for myself. I

1385
01:50:10.239 --> 01:50:15.359
refuse to accept and just powert other
people's crap. I'm sorry, you don't

1386
01:50:15.439 --> 01:50:19.600
like it, go to hell away
otherwise, support what I'm doing, ocelly

1387
01:50:19.640 --> 01:50:25.479
dot com. Donate, become a
supporter, and we're gonna do programs more

1388
01:50:25.560 --> 01:50:28.960
like this than what I've been doing
now. The Friday Night show is not

1389
01:50:29.039 --> 01:50:32.159
from my opinion, but all the
rest of them they will be, and

1390
01:50:32.199 --> 01:50:35.159
we're gonna get into some deep dives
Now, Tomorrow night, I'm gonna go

1391
01:50:35.239 --> 01:50:42.760
for a more calm subject, the
JFK assassination. I'll be joined by Paul

1392
01:50:42.760 --> 01:50:47.479
Blau and Matt Crumpton. They're gonna
talk to me about choke Holds, the

1393
01:50:47.520 --> 01:50:51.079
book, but who knows. Maybe
we're gonna get into choke Holds soon.

1394
01:50:51.119 --> 01:50:55.199
A little more of the drug war, a little more of the toxic tangerine

1395
01:50:55.199 --> 01:50:58.960
out there, a little more of
the reality that's biting everybody in the ass,

1396
01:50:58.960 --> 01:51:02.319
the Bidenomics, from the stuttering moron, the Orange Jesus. Maybe we'll

1397
01:51:02.359 --> 01:51:08.680
hit it all and we'll see if
we can't get a real war in twenty

1398
01:51:08.960 --> 01:51:14.159
twenty four. How about that.
I am merely O'Kelly. All of you

1399
01:51:14.239 --> 01:51:17.079
are indeed the effect. Donate to
Achelli dot com, keep me on the

1400
01:51:17.119 --> 01:51:21.920
air, help me out, and
I don't need psychiatric assistance, but I'll

1401
01:51:21.960 --> 01:51:25.039
take the money. If you want
to pay for a session, I'll take

1402
01:51:25.039 --> 01:51:29.199
the cash. That's that. Tuesday's
done. Talk to you soon.

