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Hey, what's going on? Clipper
fans, Clipper people, Equipper folks.

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It is me, William Updike.
Uh. Clips have just one third of

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this beautiful triumvirent joined as always well, joined as always by Charles macer joined

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as sometimes by Adam Osland, who
is reportedly over illness. But today the

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Clippers are on a streak. They're
on a verifiable heater. I think we

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can all we can all agree to
that. So we're gonna talk about the

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Clippers rolling, what we've enjoyed from
this streak, as well as just just

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kind of checking on some other stuff. We're also gonna talk about Paul George

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groin injury, which Adam and I
touched on in the postgame overt am five

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to seventy. But we're gonna dig
a little deeper, and then we'll also

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have a Clippers versus Warriors game preview
for you. But before we get into

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it, let's start with Adam.
Haven't seen him in a while. What's

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going on, what's going on in
Osland? How you doing? Yeah?

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Sorry for a prioritize seeing my other
job, will but unfortunately I knew you

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guys would have a great guest lined
up and Rob. He obviously I'm gonna

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have a tough time refilling my shoes
that he filled and just kicked out the

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front of like he was a teen
wolf or something like that. What's the

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Clippers record since Rod came on?
Are they undefeated? I believe yeah,

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let's be something to it. I'm
excited for the Rod redemption episode sometime later,

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maybe on this season. And he
went not Red wedding, but Rod

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wedding on the podcast with some of
the things that he said just wild.

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But the first thing that Adam brings
up as soon as he's on the podcast

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or receipt from something that happened a
week ago. Good to know your back,

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buddy. I'm glad you're healthy.
I mean, look, I have

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to play to my brand right and
that's what the people want. I'm staying

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on track here, but it is
good to be back at all seriousness.

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I missed you guys and missed doing
this. We missed it. I'm on

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post game anyways. And the only
reason I get is so much ship while

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you were gone is because I was
trying to light a fire under you to

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then talk about receipts, to then
get slammed for talking about receipts, buddy,

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I'm helping your brand here. Okay, brand building is always here on

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Clips and Dip. Speaking of brand
building, Charles told me to mention this

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up top and the intro. I
didn't. I forgot about it. But

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please subscribe to us over on YouTube. That's at Clippers Podcast. We're getting

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close to a thousand subscribers, and
by that I mean I think we're like

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two thirds of the way there.
We are, exactly, but help us,

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help us in our goal. Let's
reach one k before the end of

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this season. Maybe maybe maybe before
the all start break. We'll see,

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We'll see, we'll see. It's
it's it's just a dream, you know.

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I'm just a dreamer, Charles,
dream Charles. What about you?

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How are you doing? I'm doing
good. Happy, we're all back to

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talk the clips. I don't know
if I should divulge this information, but

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Adam ran ten miles earlier today which
I was shocked and impressed by. So

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vengeance dude going on. I don't
have my selfie stick light, I don't

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have my makeup on, and I
can just tell like there's this red red

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tint on my face and I'm getting
some episode one like vibes like I'm gonna

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bust out a dual lightsaber or something
all of a sudden, you might.

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We're gonna feel good. Yeah,
speak style. I'm feeling good. I

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ran ten miles earlier. Yeah,
perfect, talking clips his bathrobe. It's

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great. I feeling good. I
don't I'm living my big Lebowski life.

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F Off Will. I don't know
why Will so spicy during this winning streak.

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But if this is what it takes
for the Clippers to get hot,

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kiss I will kiss it. I'll
tell tell you what we gave out player.

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We started giving out Player of the
game and the six game losing streak

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stopped. Will's been really upset and
spicy that you've been sick, and the

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winning streak has started. So I
think something something's happening here. Yeah,

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the flu is coming Will's way next. That's what's happening, Adam. Yeah,

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yeah, all right, let's let's
talk this. Five games in a

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row against mostly good teams Warriors,
Nuggets, Jazz Blazers, Kings. This

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match is the longest win streak of
last year, but last year's five game

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win streak came in late January and
had two wins against the spurs in it.

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So this one feels the competition is
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it's it's justifiable to be excited about
this. I guess, kind of what

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have we enjoyed most from this?
Adam, you've been We'll give you the

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floor a bit. You haven't had
your pod time in a while. What

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have you been most excited about from
this five game winning streak? Lit of

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good stuff to choose from. In
the breakdown, I yield my time to

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Rod. Dude. If Rod would
have popped out right there, that would

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have been fucking awesome. We need
all right, he's down to come back.

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I will say I want to say. I want to say one thing

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about the Rod. He's not pushing
enough product right now with the way he

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sold his book. I think that's
what I wanted to talk about. I

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do think it is so great that
someone was going to came on a Clippers

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podcast to promote their book and then
proceeded to kind of just shit all over

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the cliff. It's a bull marketing
strategy pants out. We'll see how it

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pans out, Adam. Other than
the Rod episode, we couldn't get Gillian

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Zucker on, so people had to
be mad at something else. What are

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you most excited about in this five
game win streak. I think it's the

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play of Kawhi Leonard because ultimately this
team ceiling is certainly attached to Kawhi being

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at the peak of his powers and
being at his best when his best is

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required. And while it's early in
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first to start with bringing Russ off
the bench, but Kawhi had to

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get back to being the number one
option, and the pecking order has been

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a little more clear recently if you
just look at shot distribution, and it

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really came down to maybe that game
against the Denver Nuggets that they lost against

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Reggie Jackson and DeAndre Jordan, maybe
some blessing in disguise, because Kawhi got

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up twenty six shots, and since
then he has shot sixty two percent from

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the field and fifty six percent from
three. He shot himself out of that

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slump against the Denver Nuggets in one
of the most horrific games, oh yeah,

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in the two to one three era
that they ended up losing somehow,

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but Kawhi had thirty one I think
it was, but only on twenty six

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shots. And ever since then he
has been in rhythm. He has been

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in a groove. He has looked
like the guy that we saw for three

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months last season. But I'm gonna
say something else. I think Kawhi is

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moving better than he did those last
three months of last season when he was

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shooting forty seven percent from the outside. It doesn't mean he'll be shooting those

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same splits over that prolonged period of
time. I don't know if we'll ever

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see that again in his career or
anyone else's for that matter, where he

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was shooting fifty three forty seven ninety
splits for three months going into the playoff

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series against the Phoenix Suns. But
the movement that we're seeing from him and

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the ability to play defense at this
high of a level still where that has

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been there for the most part this
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not it was taking something out of
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now he's melded the two. He's
playing just as good as ever offensively while

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playing elite defense. That rip away
he had in the second half last night,

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in the third quarter where he didn't
get the dunk but he was fouled,

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went to the free throw line near
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it was that was crazy octopus Kawhi
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the one on one challenge. This
happened in the NBA Finals, I don't

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know if it was fourteen or thirteen
against the Spurs Miami matchup when they went

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back to back years against one another
and Miami won the first time, the

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Spurs won the second time, Kawhi
was the MVP. There's this really strange

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play where I don't know if it
was a pivotal point in the game,

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but Kawhi just locked up Dwayne Wade
on the perimeter, bringing the ball up

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the court and made him look like
he was playing junior high basketball by Wade

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had no idea what he was in
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hounding him and eventually getting a steal. Dwayne Wade is one of the greatest

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players of all time, a top
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great ball handler, and he looked
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at him. And that's why I
saw a little bit of shades of last

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night with Kawhi with a rip away
against the Sacramento Kings. And by the

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way, I was watching all his
body language in that second half, Clippers

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are up thirty plus, Kawhi wasn't
letting up. He was letting his own

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teammates. Hear it when they had
defensive lapses up thirty. I think there's

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something to that, and it's this. Kawhi consensed that the pieces are there,

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that they have a talented enough squad
to win the championship. He doesn't

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want to take any possessions off now. He wants to make sure they are

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locked in and focused for forty eight
minutes no matter what the score is,

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and they build those championship habits and
don't skip any steps. Like he talked

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about coming into this season, he
was demanding out of his teammates. He

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got on Norm and Terrence Man who
had some misque defensively, but again they

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were dominating the ballgame. Kawi is
about to go out and not even play

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in the fourth quarter, and he
still was playing with an edge to him

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like, Hey, I don't care, I'm chasing perfection here. There are

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legacies on the line. We have
a team this talented. It is time

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to make it five wins in a
row. Impressively over some really good competition,

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winning ten to thirteen now and get
this thing in order as we move

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along into the new year. And
I think that was very inspiring from Kawhi

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and just has to be encouraging for
Clipper Nation to see that level of leadership

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from him this early in the season. I like what you said about the

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legacy thing, because Kawhi is the
one guy whose legacy isn't I mean,

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I know it's in question by some
people who don't full I guess fully understand

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what Gawi's done in this league,
but his career is the least in question

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of any of the other guys when
it comes to championship stuff. Because the

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whole rings argument, Like, I
love that point you made, because now

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we're seeing it like he's kicking guys
in the ass by example, which is

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the best way to see it be
done. The game against when he had

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forty Will and I were talking about
this on the pod the first two bucket

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After watching those go in, if
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kind of felt like, Okay,
yeah, this is it. Kawhi is

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gonna get any single thing he wants, and we're seeing that on a consistent

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basis, and those points weren't drawn
up for him, those weren't played,

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was just free flowing feeling it to
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A lot of that. Coach Louse
said the other day that, hey,

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I wasn't drawn up plays for him. It was just in the rhythm

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of the offense. And that's what
you're starting to see now because they're gelling

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because that starting unit has been so
good next to one another. I still

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think there's a chip on Kawhi Leonard's
shoulder a little bit, not that he

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needs it. He's a top seventy
five player of all time, but I

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still think there's added motivation to win
one As a Clipper. He knows what

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that would mean. When you don't
go to the Los Angeles Lakers, who

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already had seventeen titles at that time, and you come to the Clippers to

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do something for the first time ever
like that is meaningful, That enhances your

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legacy so much more. To win
a ship with the Clippers would do more

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for him, more for PG,
more for all these guys than winning somewhere

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else. It's similar to those two
championships Lebron won in Miami do not outweigh

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the one he won for the Cleveland
Cavaliers in twenty sixteen. Yeah, I

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wouldn't he be the first guy to
like, I mean, for all intensive

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versus lead to different franchises to their
first championship, Like that would be in

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Okay, you're right, Lebron,
Miami had won to know six without him,

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Yeah, you're right, like Toronto
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like be on the team obviously,
Like I'm sure there's some guy who's like,

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I've actually been just on seven teams
for championships in the fifties, but

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like to be the main guy.
Will what have you seen? First of

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all, will anything else you want
to say about Kwhi Leonard, any other

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adjectives you want to use to describe
him? If not, what have you

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been most excited from from the streak
of play? I mean, yeah,

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the Choi stuff is great. I
think Adam succinctly wrapped it up. I

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don't have too much more to add. It has been Look, I think

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the thing that was the most concerning
about this season, and certainly while why

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I was down about it, was
the availability of Kawhi and Paul George and

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the results that that had yielded to
that point thus far. And I think

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seeing that turnaround is huge and seen
Kauhi, seen Kauhi back at the height

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of his powers, I think is
especially important for a Clipper squad that doesn't

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have and this is the cliche thing, but that doesn't have the vocal leaders,

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right, Like, there are guys, but I don't know that there's

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the one guy that's given like the
that's given the halftime speech. You know,

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I don't know that there's the one
player on the Clippers team that that

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does that. But what Kauhi does
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is better in some ways, you
know, it can be bad, but

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is lead by example on the floor, and like what he does sets the

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tone for everyone else. You see
this guy who is you know, I

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mean at his best the tops player
all the time. Yeah, well,

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and like at his best at what
a top five or top three player in

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the entire league. And you see
this guy, you know, doing everything

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that he can to gut out a
win. You know, at this point

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in the regular season. I think
that that is infectious and carries across the

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board, so that I mean it's
they're the intangibles I think are are also

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interesting to monitor across the board for
this team that has had issues with motivation,

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has had issues with effort. The
thing that I have been really interested

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in, and I know that we've
talked about it a little bit. I've

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talked about with Adam, I've talked
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playing some of the best basketball of
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Rod episode we talked a lot about
Biggs and I think that the streak that

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they're back, that I think the
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to be so encouraging, and to
me, beyond the stats which we could

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talk about, I know Adams talked
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encouraging thing is we now see a
visa zoo bots and closing lineups, which

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is something that has not not really
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certainly not before, and that like
him having that level of trust because they

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both know that if they do need
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can lean on Zoo to do said
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especially like with the absence of wings
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some of the futility that we saw
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Zoo's like importance on the floor becomes
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him to be at this level where
TYLERU has ultimate confidence in him closing out

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games, I think that is huge, just huge. That all of your

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starters could actually be your closers.
And and certainly and and and like they

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have they fit well enough together,
and they have the scale and are playing

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at a level that you have no
problem with them closing. Makes it even

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better for someone like Tie or a
matchup where you can even improve upon set

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lineup. You can add more offense, you can you can tweak it a

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little bit when all of those pieces
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which I think, which I really
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seen in the two and three era. If I'm being perfectly honest, I

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don't know that we've seen a starting
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want starting, this is what I
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I see few weaknesses when this group
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I'm not going to talk about two
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time here, but Terrence Terrence Man
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But Zoo for me has been massive. I love the starting lineup com

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because we had a question like last
week where someone was like, if our

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starting lineup is so good, Tie
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and whatever you want to think.
There's a lot of things that go into

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being a head coach. This isn't
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now we're seeing it and we're seeing
it work closing games. And that point

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you made Will as you're talking about
Zoo, I had. I was having

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flashbacks to that first game against the
Warriors that Zoo played and he just got

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torched off the floor that first playoff
game when Doc was still here, and

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it was just like, oh,
Zoo, you got a long way to

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go. He's made not the he
doesn't do big jumps, He's made incremental

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flow, you know, up into
the right stuff. Yes, that has

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been so good for this Climbers team. And we know Adam Oslin Carl tart

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is a soldier in the Army of
Paul George. Adam Oslin has been commanding

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the Aviza zu Bots brigade. U. You've been you've been preaching the goodness

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of Zoo pretty regularly at him,
and rightfully so I went off actually after

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the Portland game just because of Vita
Zubots had fourteen points on seven of nine

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shooting in the three quarter, and
he doesn't touch the ball. Well,

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he may have touched it, but
he doesn't get a shot up for the

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next thirteen fourteen minutes. He's out
there on the court until something like midway

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through the third quarter, And that
to me is just a failure of recognizing

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a guy who's having a big night, who has played big, who has

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earned more touches. It almost feels
like to me at times with the Vitza

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Zubots, he gets left behind like
he's still a rookie or something like he

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is still that young. In twenty
nineteen, he looks exactly with the deer

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in the headlights look on his face
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That's not the player he is anymore. He's grown from that completely.

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That on Sabonis, good lord,
yeah, but he typically dominates Sabonis.

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He dunked on him when he was
with the Indiana Pacers. I'm just I

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don't know what else he has to
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Now, it's consistency. I'm like, sorry to interject, it's one

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hundred percent consistency. And this has
been the issue with Zoo and I think

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last year. But last year he
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and it didn't carry through that way. Very different with the availability of two

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on three. But it's all about
It's always been about consistency for me with

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Zoo, and I feel like he's
getting there now, which is the big

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change to me. Though offense can
come and go, especially when you're a

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big man. You're depending on getting
the basketball and finding the touch and the

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rhythm. And we know Viatsa Zubas
doesn't have the greatest hands and people get

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on for that. But he's like
really good in that area over the last

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couple of weeks with James Harden and
apparently they are working before practice after practice

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ton on pick and roll stuff and
he hasn't dropped many lately. And I

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would just say this, I think
the defense is consistently there from a Vitza

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Zoobots for the most part, and
when you need a big body late in

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games like I think they should have
used him in Denver in that game where

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they're up seven with six minutes left
and he doesn't get substantial minutes down the

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stretch, they end up losing.
Well the next time around, Yeah,

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he was playing even better, I
guess. But he wasn't bad in Denver

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either against Joki and he didn't get
minutes then. But this next time they

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beat Denver at full strength of Vitza. Zubots is one of the stars down

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the stretch. Well, he got
the opportunity and he made the most of

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it. I just think there are
more opportunities like that for him, and

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he'll rise to the occasion if you
give him the chance. That's all he

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needs. I think Big Zoo has
been underutilized for years because every offseason it

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seems like they come in and say
all the right things. Oh, we're

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gonna get it more. Looks we're
gonna run the offense a little bit more

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through him. The twenty one to
twenty two season without Kawhi all year with

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Paul George's playing thirty one games,
he had multiple games like that, isn't

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that where he went toe to toe
almost with Nikola jokicch and had his career

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high thirty two or whatever it was
in a game. Yeah they lost,

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but Big Zoo has overperformed many times
and it just gets forgotten about. And

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I don't know what it is.
He keeps getting that treatment like he's still

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a young player in this league and
yes he's twenty six. But it is

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time because there's another weapon out there
that you can use that can help this

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team win games. Use it when
he's dominating like that against the Portland Trail

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Blazers. Don't go away from it, don't forget about him during the ball

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game, go right back to it
until they prove they can stop it.

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I think, I think you're right. I think part of the reason that

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Zoo gets all the hate, which
I think is so funny, is that

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I think it's because he is he's
the biggest guy on the court. As

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you know, we talked about the
Paul George court all the time, like

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he's got to play like the biggest
guy on the court, and sometimes people

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see his body language and I think, you know, the other the people

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think about the three main guys he's
starting around, which is James Harden,

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Paul George, and Kawhi Leonard.
Anyone on court next to those three guys

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is gonna look maybe not as prepared
as you know what I'm saying, Like

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I'm not justified, Like everyone's wrong
who thinks out about Zoo, But I

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think put in the context of the
guys, he's had to play with his

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body language. Sometimes you're like,
get it together, Zoo, literally,

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because he's the largest guy on the
court and he is for whatever. He

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gets a horrible whistle. Even people
who hate Zoo have to admit that the

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man does not get like he gets
the he gets a work. Maybe not

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as worst as Paul George, because
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but Zoo will get that picture of
Chris Paul just ripping his shirt off,

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Like Zoo gets no love from the
officials and he tries to plete his case.

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But he's been phenomenal. I hope
people who wanted to trade for Daniel

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Gafford uh realize how good Zoo bots
has been for this team. And look

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at the starting lineup numbers with James
Harden, who loves Zoo. I can't

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wait for James Harden to take Zoo
to whatever strip club in Los Angeles,

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James Harden has going to I want
Zoo to be there. You get pick

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and roll chemistry through you know,
team outings and things like that. I

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think Zoo even has a little higher
to go, which kind of goes with

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James Harden being a little more selfish
sometimes in a good way that I'm looking

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forward to. Just how many times
I've never had a Gafford stand a count

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I don't even know when we went
to college. I honestly thought, I

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mean, did he go to college
at Wofford? Only because his last name

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is Gafford and it sounds similar Arkansas
boo, Well, shut up, Pat

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Beav anyway, Sorry, Chuck.
I expect it from the fans at times

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to go bodylingk Whige with it,
or see a couple of plays that confirms

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that, oh see he doesn't have
the hands because he dropped this, even

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though ninety nine percent of the stuff
he does is great. Yes, I

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want to say one thing about the
hands sometimes, Russell. I had a

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friend who does not watch the Clippers
very often. They had one of their

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T and T games or something like
that, and he was watching the Clippers

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and he was texting me and he
said, how come Russell Westbrook runs into

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three defenders and then throws a ninety
mile an hour fastball to zoo Bots right

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next to him, And I just
want to say sometimes there's some passes,

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specifically from Russ that leaves Zoo in
a difficult position, you know what I

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mean, Like he'll he'll just be
like here you go, whoom. It's

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like a foot and a half away, and these same three defenders that were

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on Russ just rotate fifteen degrees and
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So that's all I wanted to point
out. I just see a Visa Zoo

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bus as another path to winning games
that opens up a different element to their

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offense because of how efficient he is
at the basket and what he's shooting something

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like sixty eight percent from is it
five feet to nine feet out, so

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floaters are all dropping for him.
That's an elite all time type of number

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that not even Nikolo Jokicic touched last
season. Obviously he's doing it at a

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lower volume, but he's been incredible. You have these high percentage looks you

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can get from Vitza zu Bots more
often than not, and you're just going

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away from it for lower percentage shots
sometimes, and I know the onus is

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on James Harden and two one three
to be the guys that do the heavy

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lifting, and it needs to be
that way. But when you see a

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flaw and a team like the Portland
Trail Blazers without Robert Williams, without DeAndre

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Ayton and Zoo is crushing them and
making himself look like a man amongst boys,

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I just don't know why you go
away from that, because it also

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fuels your defense. That is one
way to slow down up tempo when your

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center is constantly just dunking on teams
and they have to take it out of

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bounce like that slows down teams from
getting into their sets faster. And it's

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the old Shack line of if you
want the dodge to protect the house,

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you got to feed him. Don't
tell me. It's just not human nature

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with the beats of Zoobos and every
other big man, where if he's feeling

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like he's more involved on offense,
he's not gonna give you a better defensive

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effort. It always happens that way, can I. Since we've discovered the

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power of screen share here on clips
and dip, I found Zoo's shot chart

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for the season, and then we're
gonna go We're gonna talk more about how

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good this five game winning strick is
in because there's a lot of good stuff

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after this break. But really quick, I wanted to share Zoo's shooting chart

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from this year. Can we see
it? Can someone confirm if we can

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see it? There we go,
Look Zoobo shooting chart. This is phenomenal.

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I think the funniest part is this
little area right here. What's going

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on at the center of the nail, to the right of the nail.

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There's some comfortability like right here that
I don't know if there's something to lean

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on, but this is a d
you expected from a zoo bot shot chart.

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It's pretty close. But like I, I kind of like this little

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area he's shot. I mean at
the rimmy's at sixty five percent three to

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ten feet, He's at sixty percent
ten to less than sixteen feet, He's

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at sixty six percent. Like there, There's not much more Zoo could be

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doing right shooting wise. Offensively,
He's not the best passer. He connects

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things for sure, which is why
I think the hockey assist would really benefit

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a center like Zoo. You know
what I mean, Like, Zoo's not

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gonna make the assist out of the
short role, but he's gonna make the

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assist to the assist out of the
short role kind of thing. Thank you.

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I am charted very much. But
yeah, I don't know. I

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just got to be fun to show
a shot chart like this is there's something

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on the right side over here,
kind of kind of bleeding over. I

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may be wrong. He's right handed, so I mean that's natural. You'd

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expect him to be more comfortable going
right the jump. Well, here's the

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other he's not shooting with. Maybe
he should shoot with his left hand going

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left. If we get ambidextrias Zoo, look out, everybody. I just

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there's typically a pattern on the dominant
side for a player like James Harden,

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he's always more comfortable driving left.
Uh, you're saying more ISOs for Zoo

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going to his right, Well if
you can. Yeah, they're gonna try

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to take that away. But he's
got a plethora of moves. He's got

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a bag. How many times do
we see if eatsa Zoo bots do something

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in the paint. Go oh,
I didn't know he had that on him.

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There's just more game to him than
I think we realized. One concerning

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thing on that chart was the home
road field goal percentaget, bring it back

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up. Let me bring the chart
back up. We can do that now

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here on clips and dip, where
he's shooting about fourteen percent better at home

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than on the road. To Will's
consistency point, at least on the offensive

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side. You see that road,
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At home, he's at sixty nine
percent from the field. That's a

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pretty big disparity and gap between the
two. Pretty sure. All right,

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00:29:22,359 --> 00:29:26,920
Cliper Nation, give yourself some love. You're helping fuel Viza Zubats obviously at

405
00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:30,720
home, but you want to see
more consistency on the road there too.

406
00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:33,640
Yeah, I think that's a really
good call. All right, we got

407
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to do a break and then we're
gonna talk just more good stuff happening in

408
00:29:36,799 --> 00:29:40,720
this five game winning streak, as
well as Paul George's injury, which oh

409
00:29:40,759 --> 00:29:42,440
no, our level, we haven't
really talked about that altogether, but we're

410
00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:47,440
gonna get into it. There's been
some loud ads. Everyone who listened to

411
00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:51,319
the Rod episode complained about the episode
and the ads, which is why we

412
00:29:51,359 --> 00:29:55,000
put in this disclaimer. We got
ads coming up. They've been too loud

413
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for you, go ahead and turn
it down. We got ads coming up

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in three to one. All right, we are back at Clips and Dip

415
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talking good things from the five game
winning streak. I want to put something

416
00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:15,000
in here. Terrence's shooting is coming
around, which I love to see.

417
00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:18,960
If you take out the horrific game
against the Warriors where he was one for

418
00:30:18,039 --> 00:30:22,680
five from three, he shot forty
one percent from three over the last four

419
00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:26,880
games, which and Adam, I
think you talked about this when we were

420
00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:30,039
on the show, or will you
brought it up. He does not shoot

421
00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:33,559
very well for the Clippers to start
the season, just throughout his Clippers' career.

422
00:30:33,799 --> 00:30:37,599
It's just something. Yes, these
are that was according to stats from

423
00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:41,640
Justin Russo. So I trust it. Oh sure, yeah, absolutely.

424
00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:45,400
We gave Justin Russo a lot of
free pub last step did not give us

425
00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:49,599
a shout out, But that's that's
neither here nor there. Actually, also

426
00:30:49,759 --> 00:30:52,559
very true, if anyone bought Rod's
book, let us know, let us

427
00:30:52,599 --> 00:30:56,440
know if it had improved your life
or help your rebounding skills. But I

428
00:30:56,480 --> 00:31:02,359
think I think Terrence is something to
shout out. We've talked about Norm a

429
00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:06,960
fair amount. I did want to
get Adam, did you hear what Will

430
00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:11,839
came up with last episode The Powell
Rangers, Go, Go, Powell Rangers.

431
00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:19,039
That is one of my favorite Is
that a Will original? Yeah?

432
00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:26,079
That's that's like the type of nickname
I used to call Gore and Dragics,

433
00:31:26,279 --> 00:31:32,440
the dragag zword. Okay for the
Green Ranger because some people called him the

434
00:31:32,519 --> 00:31:37,400
dragon too, but that's the type
of nickname. I don't know how he

435
00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:41,000
got that nickname. You're the dragon
was born, but I won't say it.

436
00:31:42,079 --> 00:31:48,480
Okay, pause, But that nickname
is so good for Norman Powell.

437
00:31:49,119 --> 00:31:55,160
It almost elevates the amount I want
to see him on the court now in

438
00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:57,160
how many minutes? And he's been
great this season, but now it's like,

439
00:31:57,240 --> 00:32:02,920
oh, Powell Rangers, let's go, let's go. Come on our

440
00:32:04,599 --> 00:32:09,359
our umbrella corp two on three hoops
tagged Eric Buie, who made if you're

441
00:32:09,359 --> 00:32:15,920
watching on YouTube this fantastic background.
And I think our clippers are our our

442
00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:20,559
Twitter profile pick too. We need
the Powell Rangers graphic The lineup of Norm

443
00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:25,839
Powell with Harden pg Kawai Zoo is
absolutely insane. We've talked about that enough.

444
00:32:27,359 --> 00:32:30,920
This is kind of leading one I
want to talk about. Uh Tie,

445
00:32:30,279 --> 00:32:37,240
I think Tylu people wanted to fire
time, people wanted to fire Tylu,

446
00:32:38,039 --> 00:32:43,720
and now we won five in a
row. He is doing his best

447
00:32:43,839 --> 00:32:47,799
to get away from Westbrook and Harden
sharing the floor. This kind of goes

448
00:32:47,799 --> 00:32:52,319
into some of the chemistry stuff we
talk about. We're gonna talk about PJ.

449
00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:55,920
Tucker I think in this segment,
but like there's things that you have

450
00:32:57,000 --> 00:33:00,480
to do as a head coach that
are sometimes detch mention to the team because

451
00:33:00,519 --> 00:33:05,759
you have to show that they don't
work sometimes. And I think we might

452
00:33:05,799 --> 00:33:09,319
be in the latter stages of that
with the with the Westbrook Harden pairing on

453
00:33:09,359 --> 00:33:13,240
the four together. But I think
anytime you have a five game win streak,

454
00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:15,079
you can't not give a little bit
of a shout out to the coach.

455
00:33:15,079 --> 00:33:19,599
He's trusted Zoo, He's made these
decisions, you know what I mean.

456
00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:23,839
Like Tye is a large part of
the reason why we're feeling this good

457
00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:29,480
right now, because I think if
if we're gonna because we did hate on

458
00:33:29,559 --> 00:33:31,480
him a little bit on this podcast, but we got to give the respect

459
00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:36,720
too, because it's been it's been
a good job from Ty. Well okay,

460
00:33:36,759 --> 00:33:40,400
wait wait, if you're watching on
YouTube, you've already said, you've

461
00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:45,680
already seen Will's name. Will is
saying Dan Craig four PF for coach Will

462
00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:51,440
go ahead, No, I'm just
playing well, okay, all right.

463
00:33:52,119 --> 00:33:57,440
One, I have one. I
have one criticism, and it's been a

464
00:33:57,480 --> 00:34:01,359
through line of the two and three
era, because I will listen to that

465
00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:07,679
criticism undertie, and that is I
just don't get why he walks back some

466
00:34:07,719 --> 00:34:12,880
of the things that he says are
like a priority or or says or something

467
00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:15,119
that we're gonna do, most notably
in this wind streak. You know,

468
00:34:15,159 --> 00:34:20,599
I thought we had a pretty clear
intention and idea of what the backcourt would

469
00:34:20,639 --> 00:34:25,480
look like in terms of minutes with
both Westbrook and Harden on the floor,

470
00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:30,199
and then apparently we we do not
anymore there, you know, And these

471
00:34:30,199 --> 00:34:35,079
are things there, These are things
that like these aren't fans tweeting at him

472
00:34:35,119 --> 00:34:37,679
saying this, this is stuff that
he has said. I'm sure Adam has

473
00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:45,199
the receipts somewhere in a shoe box
underneath. Do you print them out?

474
00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:52,559
Do you print out tweet but that's
my that's my biggest criticism. Boards,

475
00:34:52,599 --> 00:34:57,880
that's my biggest criticism. And I'm
not saying that he's not necessarily deserving another

476
00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:00,880
shout out, but there is still
some some stuff, of course, Okay,

477
00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:07,480
all right, there's still some No
thanks, it has look it up.

478
00:35:07,639 --> 00:35:10,960
I know there's things, but he's
been good. There's always gonna be

479
00:35:12,039 --> 00:35:14,800
things, though, no matter who
the head coach is, there's always going

480
00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:17,599
to be a section of the fan
base that is looking at all the numbers

481
00:35:17,599 --> 00:35:22,840
and saying objectively, this isn't working
and it's still happening, and why is

482
00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:25,400
this happening? I don't know if
you guys have noticed what's happening in Philly

483
00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:30,559
now, Uh, Marcus Morris is
playing way more than Robert curveingson, even

484
00:35:30,559 --> 00:35:34,920
though Roco was playing really well for
them. What is up with Roco's career

485
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:38,440
at this point. That's now two
teams where he's gone and sorry to derail

486
00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:43,519
this, he's gone and played really, really fucking good for what those teams

487
00:35:43,559 --> 00:35:49,480
need, and then they're just like
like we need shot creation. I don't

488
00:35:49,519 --> 00:35:52,280
know, I don't understand. It
makes no sense. Yeah, no,

489
00:35:52,639 --> 00:35:58,360
it's it's uh yeah, it's a
tough one. Rational, honest. So

490
00:35:58,559 --> 00:36:04,039
now this happened yes yesterday, and
I thought it was interesting, of note,

491
00:36:04,679 --> 00:36:07,199
we can do that now a lineup, Yeah, I mean it's a

492
00:36:07,199 --> 00:36:12,599
pretty easy one. So it's not
that complicated, you visual. But the

493
00:36:12,639 --> 00:36:17,519
lineup that was a plus nine for
the Clippers against the Sacramento Kings in seven

494
00:36:17,559 --> 00:36:23,639
minutes and eight seconds of on court
time was Russ next to Norm next to

495
00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:30,679
Harden, next to Kobe Brown,
next to Daniel Tice. This was I

496
00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:37,280
think the first time that a Russ
James Harden lineup out there had won their

497
00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:43,280
minutes in a significant way. And
it happened last night against Sacramento. Now,

498
00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:46,920
I don't know all the portions in
times of the game had happened at

499
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:52,400
maybe the momentum was all with the
Clippers, but they've been chasing, trying

500
00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:55,320
to find a way to get Russ
and Hardened out there together and to make

501
00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:59,800
it successful. And for the most
part, the Clippers have been shooting under

502
00:36:59,840 --> 00:37:02,360
forty percent when those two were on
the court together, twenty five percent from

503
00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:07,440
three. It's not working. It
doesn't seem like it's going to work,

504
00:37:07,559 --> 00:37:10,840
especially against high end competition. It's
just fundamentally flawed, two guys that are

505
00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:14,440
depending on having the ball in their
hands to bring out the best in them.

506
00:37:15,079 --> 00:37:19,480
But they went with it last night. Seven minutes of court time and

507
00:37:19,519 --> 00:37:22,119
it was a plus nine out there, So maybe I guess the team though

508
00:37:22,119 --> 00:37:25,639
that was on the second night of
a hard back to back that we're weird

509
00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:30,719
a hard back to back. We
have the super fucking trail Blazers, dude,

510
00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:36,679
and barely real and barely real,
that's real thirty minutes. That doesn't

511
00:37:36,679 --> 00:37:38,039
make him a good team. That
doesn't make it a hard back to back.

512
00:37:38,079 --> 00:37:43,679
That's that's on you. But I
agree it's on them. Yeah,

513
00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:47,079
but still played forty minutes close,
Yeah, I mean Paul George played forty

514
00:37:47,079 --> 00:37:51,559
one minutes. Coah, I played
I think thirty eight and James Harden thirty

515
00:37:51,639 --> 00:37:53,639
seven the night before. I would
have liked them to only play twenty five.

516
00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:59,199
That would have been great. Yeah, But I think it was an

517
00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:02,559
even playing field yesterday against Sacramento.
They played their stars less the night before

518
00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:07,400
against Brooklyn, as they put them
away earlier in the third. I give

519
00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:10,119
the Clippers a ton of credit for
the way they came out last night,

520
00:38:10,199 --> 00:38:15,559
and it's it's been like this on
the second game of back to backs against

521
00:38:15,599 --> 00:38:21,719
the Lakers was the first one against
the Dallas Mavericks when they held them to

522
00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:24,480
eighty eight points. That was the
second night of a back to back last

523
00:38:24,559 --> 00:38:28,639
night too, outside of the one
where they were up in Sacramento and then

524
00:38:28,679 --> 00:38:31,159
Golden State got the victory in Sacramento
lost in Golden State the next night.

525
00:38:31,199 --> 00:38:36,000
They were still in that game.
But outside of that, the Clippers have

526
00:38:36,119 --> 00:38:43,199
looked damn near fresh and not as
tired of the lethargic as I would have

527
00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:45,320
thought in any of the second nights
on these back to backs so far this

528
00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:50,400
season. Yeah, that's been a
revelation. I would say I've been shocked

529
00:38:51,199 --> 00:38:54,440
how good they've looked. All right, Adam, we talked about this last

530
00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:59,760
time. You said that. Josephry
Ward also texted this to you. Since

531
00:39:00,079 --> 00:39:06,000
talked about this. I can't get
that guy. Joseph ry Award predicted the

532
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:09,880
Clippers will go fourteen and six over
twenty games starting with the Jazz game.

533
00:39:10,119 --> 00:39:14,599
So far, we're at three and
oh so as good of a story as

534
00:39:14,639 --> 00:39:19,079
you could quite literally possibly have.
Adam, do you think the Clippers are

535
00:39:19,079 --> 00:39:27,440
going eleven and six over their next
seventeen to fulfill former Clippers podcaster Great some

536
00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:32,599
would say just former Clippers podcaster per
Will last episode of Going fourteen and six

537
00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:37,920
over this twenty game Stratch I told
him I thought it was possible, depending

538
00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:45,079
on health and the way they're gonna
rearrange lineups and rotations, and if they

539
00:39:45,159 --> 00:39:49,559
play heavier minutes as they have been. And I do think it is a

540
00:39:49,639 --> 00:39:53,480
concern. And coach lu talked about
this after the victory over the Portland Trail

541
00:39:53,480 --> 00:40:00,280
Blazers, that they are playing the
two to one three guys a little too

542
00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:02,760
much this early in the season,
and he said they don't want to run

543
00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:07,480
him into the ground, but they
also want to win games. So there's

544
00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:13,400
that balance you have to strike.
But I do want to caution people because

545
00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:19,239
eventually those legs will catch up with
you. You can't have guys playing thirty

546
00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:22,119
eight minutes every night. You may
think, oh, professional athletes, whatever,

547
00:40:22,159 --> 00:40:23,639
Adam, No, no, no, no, no no no.

548
00:40:24,159 --> 00:40:28,440
This is what happened to Lebron James
and the Lakers last season, where all

549
00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:32,519
of a sudden, every fourth quarter
they could get across the finish line because

550
00:40:32,599 --> 00:40:36,880
he was playing heavy minutes, and
they take their toll and it's not a

551
00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:39,360
video game. So what were you
gonna say? I was gonna say,

552
00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:44,000
Will brought this up last episode?
We did kind of the rotation situation right

553
00:40:44,039 --> 00:40:50,840
now because it feels like so Paul
George Hurd his groin questionable for tomorrow's game

554
00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:54,159
versus the Dubs. I don't think
we're wildly concerned about the growing. He

555
00:40:54,440 --> 00:41:00,599
could have come in per tylu back
again versus the King, but it was

556
00:41:00,599 --> 00:41:02,199
like a thirty point game. We
don't know. But will you brought this

557
00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:06,599
up kind of how the short rotation
like we might be playing with a little

558
00:41:06,599 --> 00:41:15,920
bit of fire here. Yes,
no, I mean I've already said my

559
00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:17,519
thoughts like on this, so I
don't want to reiterate it too much.

560
00:41:17,559 --> 00:41:22,159
But the Clippers have found something that's
working. That's why they're in a win

561
00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:27,920
streak. You know, it's not
debatable. The thing is is it's a

562
00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:35,480
double edged sword for me because there
are guys on this roster that, if

563
00:41:35,519 --> 00:41:39,280
you want to get wins, cannot
play a lot of minutes. And that

564
00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:44,599
is just man, that is a
hard reality. There are guys that cannot

565
00:41:44,679 --> 00:41:47,119
be on the floor if you want
to win minutes, even against a second

566
00:41:47,199 --> 00:41:54,800
unit, sometimes a third in the
case of a Denver game. But at

567
00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:59,440
the same time, like you have
to put time into what works. And

568
00:41:59,519 --> 00:42:04,559
I think something that's sort of interesting
is as much as we know about sports

569
00:42:04,559 --> 00:42:08,440
science, I do feel like there's
a little bit lacking in terms of like

570
00:42:08,519 --> 00:42:14,000
what accumulative sort of I guess I'm
gonna say load, that's not the right

571
00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:21,639
word, but like accumulative sort of
exertion is right. Because on one hand,

572
00:42:22,039 --> 00:42:24,480
you don't obviously you don't want injuries, No, none of the thirty

573
00:42:24,519 --> 00:42:30,599
teams want that. We say that
every single season, but we don't necessarily

574
00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:36,159
know what the correlation is between the
amount of time and games that you're supposed

575
00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:40,800
to play with you know, the
propensity for injury, and we see all

576
00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:45,159
the time right in the NFL when
a team has a bye week sometimes it's

577
00:42:45,159 --> 00:42:52,239
not advantageous in the playoffs, and
I think the same thing can happen in

578
00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:57,239
basketball. So and I think part
of the reason that they've been able to

579
00:42:57,320 --> 00:43:00,159
turn things around so hard, from
a six game losing streak to now a

580
00:43:00,199 --> 00:43:05,039
five game winning streak has been the
amount of minutes on the floor. And

581
00:43:05,119 --> 00:43:07,880
we know with the schedule, which
sucks. It sucks for the Clippers,

582
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:13,679
but it is a harsh reality that
this is not a favorable schedule, that

583
00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:17,039
they don't have a lot of practice
time. And so I'm kind of understanding

584
00:43:17,079 --> 00:43:22,199
at this point in the season why
we're seeing these guys playing thirty eight minutes,

585
00:43:22,199 --> 00:43:24,440
why we're seeing them play bigger minutes. But what I'm hoping, my

586
00:43:24,639 --> 00:43:30,800
hope is is that as we continue, we can see that sort of start

587
00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:32,920
to go down, especially if we
have games like we had against the Kings

588
00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:37,559
where the starters were able to put
away something early, we can keep those

589
00:43:37,639 --> 00:43:40,559
minutes a little bit lower. And
I think overall, that's to me,

590
00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:44,840
the best of both worlds, right, because you stay in rhythm, you

591
00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:47,920
continue to build this chemistry that you
can't do just through practices. You need

592
00:43:49,039 --> 00:43:55,119
game reps, while hopefully keeping everybody
fresh enough and healthy enough for the duration

593
00:43:55,239 --> 00:44:01,840
of the season. But in terms
of like the short rotation, hopefully that

594
00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:07,199
those two things can coincide. But
unless you have a lead like you had

595
00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:09,480
against the Kings. Again, there
are players on this roster that I don't

596
00:44:09,519 --> 00:44:15,280
know how you find minutes for.
It feels like Kobe Brown not to push

597
00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:17,320
the agenda too hard. If Kobe
Brown is playing well, that is very

598
00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:21,440
advantageous for the Clippers lineup. We
know Daniel Tye is gonna get minutes,

599
00:44:21,559 --> 00:44:23,559
we know Norm's gonna get minutes,
we know Russ is gonna get minutes.

600
00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:29,360
There's your eight man rotation. If
Kobe Brown can fill in sixteen to twenty

601
00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:32,760
minutes of productive basketball, there's your
nine guys. And I think everyone's much

602
00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:37,039
more coup with a nine man rotation
over an eight with the squad. Yes,

603
00:44:37,199 --> 00:44:40,239
I am a Kobe Brown knows here. Second time we've used this name.

604
00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:45,320
I will take it every time.
But I think that because PJ.

605
00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:50,519
Tucker, who we're going to talk
about his trade value next segment, has

606
00:44:50,599 --> 00:44:57,039
been bad, Kobe Brown, weirdly
can really help this roster stretch some of

607
00:44:57,079 --> 00:45:01,079
these minutes. I think it's an
interesting converce and one that needs to be

608
00:45:01,199 --> 00:45:05,679
had, and I'm sure is within
the Clippers organization, the front office,

609
00:45:05,719 --> 00:45:08,960
the coaching staff. Coach Lou alluded
to that they're aware they don't want to

610
00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:15,559
run these guys into the ground.
I remember back to the Mike D'Antoni year

611
00:45:15,039 --> 00:45:22,119
with Dwight Howard with the Lakers,
and a lot of people blamed dan Toni

612
00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:28,599
Lakers fans for Kobe tearing his achilles
because they got off to that slow start

613
00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:32,800
and then they had to catch up
just to get in the playoff picture,

614
00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:37,559
which they eventually did and got swept
by the San Antonio Spurs. But sure,

615
00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:39,719
the last forty games of the season, I think they went something like

616
00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:45,719
twenty eight and twelve, and Kobe
was playing forty one minutes a night,

617
00:45:45,599 --> 00:45:51,400
and he was doing a lot more
too because they had him, and it

618
00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:54,199
was some of the best basketball I
thought he ever played, because he was

619
00:45:54,239 --> 00:46:00,000
playing within the system with Mike D'Antoni
and he was being more of a distribute

620
00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:04,559
and making guys around them better and
stuff. But it took its toll,

621
00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:09,559
and people speculate whether or not that
achilles injury was an accumulation of minutes and

622
00:46:09,599 --> 00:46:16,239
not just one bad movement. Nobody
really know these things, sure, because

623
00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:21,039
it's not like with Aaron Rodgers this
season. The reason he tore his achilles

624
00:46:21,039 --> 00:46:27,199
is because they were ten games in
and over time the wear and tear led

625
00:46:27,239 --> 00:46:30,760
to a full complete achilles tear.
It was the third player or whatever of

626
00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:36,159
the game. So you never know
what these things, but you know common

627
00:46:36,199 --> 00:46:42,039
knowledge, colloquial knowledge, or whatever
would tell you that you just don't want

628
00:46:42,079 --> 00:46:46,320
to press the gas pedal down too
hard early in the season and have them

629
00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:51,119
running in the red too much,
because eventually you could hit the wall.

630
00:46:52,039 --> 00:46:53,840
And so you got to strike that
balance, like I said earlier, of

631
00:46:53,880 --> 00:46:59,519
winning games but also not chasing them
to the extent this early in the season

632
00:47:00,119 --> 00:47:04,400
where you'll be losing games later on
because you won't have these players available.

633
00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:08,360
And we don't know if Paul George
playing those heavy minutes like he has been

634
00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:13,199
near forty minutes per game the first, you know, a couple months of

635
00:47:13,239 --> 00:47:15,719
the season, not kwie, he's
probably thirty seven or something like that.

636
00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:20,000
If that led to the sore left
groin, or if it was just a

637
00:47:20,039 --> 00:47:24,880
tweak, it was just one bad
movement. But the good news is that

638
00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:29,440
he could have played the second half
if they weren't leading by twenty two at

639
00:47:29,480 --> 00:47:31,880
the half over the Sacramento Kings,
if that was a playoff game or a

640
00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:36,400
must win type of situation towards the
end of the regular season, he would

641
00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:39,280
have been there. Yeah, his
man, the Paul George minutes load,

642
00:47:39,480 --> 00:47:45,000
I'm just going to read it back
from the last handful of games forty one,

643
00:47:45,119 --> 00:47:47,840
thirty seven, thirty eight, thirty
eight, thirty seven, forty thirty

644
00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:52,199
six, thirty six, thirty eight. A lot of basketball from those guys

645
00:47:53,039 --> 00:47:59,159
this but it's to cover Chuck,
And I want to make this point because

646
00:47:59,199 --> 00:48:04,119
they haven't figured out out the most
optimum lineups without those guys yet, right,

647
00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:07,400
So if you're going to get by
in the regular season and win some

648
00:48:07,519 --> 00:48:12,320
of these games without them, you
still have to discover who works well with

649
00:48:12,360 --> 00:48:16,840
who in the second unit. Yeah, third unit stuff, but that still

650
00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:22,639
has quid PG out there. Y. The starters are covering, the stars

651
00:48:22,199 --> 00:48:28,320
are covering for a lot, and
that's their job. But it is something

652
00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:31,519
worth monitoring early in the season that
they're having to do it this much,

653
00:48:31,679 --> 00:48:36,760
to this extent because a lot of
these other lineups are coming up with a

654
00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:39,599
negative number that they throw out there. But like I was saying, don't

655
00:48:39,599 --> 00:48:44,639
you think that the pendulum could eventually
swing the other way as things continue to

656
00:48:44,639 --> 00:48:46,119
click, you know what I'm saying, Like, maybe this is an early

657
00:48:46,199 --> 00:48:52,360
investment that can can later hopefully you
know, it can pay dividends. It

658
00:48:52,440 --> 00:48:57,559
has to be right, Eventually,
they have to find those other lineups to

659
00:48:57,679 --> 00:49:01,000
booy the stars, and it goes
back the other where they're only playing thirty

660
00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:06,280
three minutes for a couple of weeks, you know, and that's because well,

661
00:49:06,320 --> 00:49:08,360
we found these other lineups that could
win games for us in rotations that

662
00:49:08,480 --> 00:49:12,800
work. Now is we've gotten more
time together and we've gotten more evidence.

663
00:49:13,719 --> 00:49:15,800
One person who's not working in any
of the lineups that they play in is

664
00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:20,719
PJ Tucker, and he wants more
playing time. Per PJ Tucker, the

665
00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:25,360
second time we have heard him talk
about this to a publication. Apparently other

666
00:49:25,519 --> 00:49:31,119
contenders are monitoring his situation, which
hey, to the Western Conference contenders monitoring

667
00:49:31,159 --> 00:49:36,199
it, send us whatever you want. If I were GM, I would

668
00:49:36,239 --> 00:49:42,000
trade him for I don't know,
bring in and out, Like what what

669
00:49:42,199 --> 00:49:45,639
is PJ. Tucker's trade value right
now? And should the Clippers just take

670
00:49:45,679 --> 00:49:52,400
whatever deal they can get? I
don't like, I don't know. I

671
00:49:52,400 --> 00:49:55,280
I honestly don't know how to gauge
someone like PJ Tucker because he's such a

672
00:49:55,360 --> 00:50:00,280
unique player to start with, even
in his prime, and now he's thirty

673
00:50:00,320 --> 00:50:05,119
eight, what's the second oldest player
in the league, and it seems like

674
00:50:05,199 --> 00:50:08,960
he's having trouble coming to grips with
that talking about and we talked about the

675
00:50:09,000 --> 00:50:14,360
OC Register article from a month and
a half ago, and that was a

676
00:50:14,400 --> 00:50:16,920
little bit of a red flag at
the time because he said, I have

677
00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:21,760
to make the biggest adjustment because I'm
used to playing thirty minutes a night.

678
00:50:22,159 --> 00:50:28,400
Yeah. Him, And that's what
happens with stars as they age out or

679
00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:32,400
if they're just not in that same
situation. Look at Russ and the way

680
00:50:32,440 --> 00:50:37,679
he's handled himself and not playing big
minutes right now, there's a guy on

681
00:50:37,719 --> 00:50:42,960
the roster that is showing the blueprint
on how to adjust as you age,

682
00:50:43,400 --> 00:50:46,079
hopefully gracefully, but it works as
a young guy. Look at Bones.

683
00:50:47,159 --> 00:50:52,760
Look at Bones handling a situation well
right, who has showed a ton of

684
00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:57,920
promise in preseason, early games in
the regular season, and he hasn't made

685
00:50:57,960 --> 00:51:01,400
a stink at all. He's the
same there celebrating other guys playing well.

686
00:51:02,400 --> 00:51:07,679
I don't know. I FJ.
Tucker because of when he started turning down

687
00:51:07,719 --> 00:51:12,000
shots and not even taking them anymore
from the corner. That's where it gets

688
00:51:12,039 --> 00:51:15,960
to a point where is he really
playable? I would like him to see

689
00:51:16,039 --> 00:51:22,880
minutes here and there, depending on
the matchup like against Jokich against Zion,

690
00:51:22,000 --> 00:51:27,159
but we're talking five to ten minutes. Even in those games where I think

691
00:51:27,559 --> 00:51:30,719
he can just be a disruptor,
you throw a wrench in the gears where

692
00:51:30,719 --> 00:51:34,840
they just don't see this defender coming
and you don't need his offense for that

693
00:51:34,960 --> 00:51:37,920
stretch because you put him out there
with the right lineup that has plenty of

694
00:51:37,920 --> 00:51:42,159
firepower, and all he does is
throw a guy out a rhythm. Because

695
00:51:42,199 --> 00:51:45,880
I think his defense is still pretty
good. So that's why I don't know

696
00:51:45,960 --> 00:51:50,239
exactly where his value's at. Will
what do you think? Well, I

697
00:51:50,559 --> 00:51:52,559
with the defensive thing, I agree
with you. I just feel like it's

698
00:51:52,559 --> 00:51:55,679
been up and down. And I
think the thing that we see with players

699
00:51:55,760 --> 00:52:00,840
across the board is when they're not
when they're not half be with their role,

700
00:52:00,960 --> 00:52:04,719
you don't see the same level of
effort and commitment on that side of

701
00:52:04,719 --> 00:52:07,719
the floor. And I gotta be
honest there, you know, PJ.

702
00:52:07,920 --> 00:52:12,679
We you know, we knew that
he was gonna have his offensive limitations coming

703
00:52:12,719 --> 00:52:16,719
in, but they were compounded by
a hesitancy to take shots. And unfortunately

704
00:52:16,760 --> 00:52:20,440
for him, you know, uh, it came at a time where the

705
00:52:20,440 --> 00:52:22,920
team was losing a lot of games, and there was a lot of there

706
00:52:22,960 --> 00:52:27,840
was a lot of hesitancy to take
open shots and due to a you know,

707
00:52:28,119 --> 00:52:30,679
due to reworking the team around the
fit with James Harden. So he

708
00:52:30,800 --> 00:52:35,480
is a little bit of a of
a victim of circumstance for sure. But

709
00:52:35,639 --> 00:52:40,039
for me, like, I just
don't get what your end goal is by

710
00:52:40,159 --> 00:52:45,639
releasing statements like this, And you
know, I'm not I don't cape for

711
00:52:45,719 --> 00:52:50,360
the owners in any in any scenario
or any way, but like, if

712
00:52:50,400 --> 00:52:54,239
your goal is to get traded,
is displaying yourself as a malcontent the best

713
00:52:54,239 --> 00:52:58,960
way to get traded? And if
your goal is more minutes on this team,

714
00:52:59,440 --> 00:53:01,840
is you know, airing dirty laundry
about the team that you're currently on

715
00:53:01,880 --> 00:53:06,800
the like your path to get more
minutes? I just I don't really get

716
00:53:06,840 --> 00:53:09,880
the intention. And to me,
what we've seen through these two things tells

717
00:53:09,880 --> 00:53:13,559
me, and you know, not
to put too final a point on it,

718
00:53:13,599 --> 00:53:15,199
but that tells me everything that I
need to know about PJ. Tucker

719
00:53:15,199 --> 00:53:19,639
and where he belongs in this rotation, and to me, that means he's

720
00:53:19,639 --> 00:53:24,199
best on the bench. Well,
let's not forget when coach Lou made the

721
00:53:24,239 --> 00:53:30,000
decision after five straight losses with James
Harden next to Russell Westbrook in the backcourt,

722
00:53:30,039 --> 00:53:34,920
to put in Terrence Man for Russ
in the starting lineup. He said

723
00:53:35,280 --> 00:53:40,320
he thought about PJ. Tucker or
Terrence Man, one of those two we've

724
00:53:40,320 --> 00:53:45,159
talked about, We've talked about the
we've talked about the wildness of possible scenarios

725
00:53:45,199 --> 00:53:52,480
on this podcast. But I don't
think he's alone in the coaching world of

726
00:53:52,559 --> 00:53:59,679
being someone that just favors a defensive
stopper who brings toughness and attitude and it

727
00:53:59,719 --> 00:54:04,159
feels like it's a culture builder type
of guy that it will get your team

728
00:54:04,280 --> 00:54:07,960
to come out and play aggressively defensively
because you have PJ. Tucker out there.

729
00:54:08,480 --> 00:54:14,679
So I wouldn't be shocked if a
contender or somebody else is poking around

730
00:54:14,719 --> 00:54:19,119
and kicking the tires and wondering his
availability and how they can get him.

731
00:54:19,119 --> 00:54:23,400
But Ice was brought up and playing
this well for the Clippers or brought in

732
00:54:24,679 --> 00:54:29,719
and then he was out in that
game against the Utah Jazz and PJ.

733
00:54:29,840 --> 00:54:34,239
Tucker still didn't get minutes and I
beats the Zoobots instead played forty two.

734
00:54:35,159 --> 00:54:38,440
That was telling yeah, and Kobe
Brown's minutes. He's taking Kobe Brown has

735
00:54:38,480 --> 00:54:44,400
taken PJ. Tucker's minutes, and
the Clippers are not losing. And I

736
00:54:44,440 --> 00:54:47,239
know it's not that simple, but
it's one of the things that has helped

737
00:54:47,639 --> 00:54:52,880
this team. If you're a PJ. Tucker stand, we'd love to have

738
00:54:52,920 --> 00:54:57,199
you on the pod, love to
talk where your head's at. The idea

739
00:54:57,599 --> 00:55:01,920
of the idea. Coming up,
we are gonna talk a little bit about

740
00:55:01,960 --> 00:55:07,239
Clippers versus Warriors. Uh, we're
gonna talk about Uh, We're gonna remind

741
00:55:07,239 --> 00:55:09,320
everyone that we're kind of doing this
this charity thing with the given a quarter

742
00:55:09,360 --> 00:55:13,639
thing. We're coming up. We're
talking Clippers versus Warriors. If the ads

743
00:55:13,639 --> 00:55:15,159
has been too out for you,
go ahead and turn it down. We

744
00:55:15,199 --> 00:55:20,880
got ads coming up, and then
game talking three to what welcome back in

745
00:55:21,280 --> 00:55:27,559
clips and dip. I'm Adam Oslin
last night a little double dip with myself

746
00:55:27,639 --> 00:55:31,480
and uh yeah, I think it
was, uh will updykra A very little

747
00:55:31,519 --> 00:55:37,039
double dip. It was. I
got cut off at like the six minute

748
00:55:37,039 --> 00:55:38,320
mark. He was like, get
the hell off my get get off my

749
00:55:38,480 --> 00:55:43,719
radio. They were kicking me off. At eleven. I was up against

750
00:55:43,719 --> 00:55:47,760
the clock. Will, I'm sorry, it was time crisis and I no

751
00:55:47,840 --> 00:55:52,639
longer had the gun. Uh.
Clippers though, have one five straight.

752
00:55:52,719 --> 00:55:55,599
That's the current longest winning streak in
the NBA at the moment. By the

753
00:55:55,639 --> 00:56:01,119
way, guys, they have won
ten of thirteen. And I would like

754
00:56:01,199 --> 00:56:06,480
to say this to a few different
people, and I'm not gonna call them

755
00:56:06,480 --> 00:56:09,119
out by name. I thought about
doing a whole big receipt thing in my

756
00:56:09,239 --> 00:56:14,719
triumphant return to the podcast today and
really getting into the nitty gritty here,

757
00:56:14,760 --> 00:56:17,480
and just so much for not doing
that. You're right, that's what we

758
00:56:17,519 --> 00:56:21,440
have to worry about, not Rod
coming on here and just asking on a

759
00:56:21,519 --> 00:56:28,199
team for an hour. It's great, great way to do it. There

760
00:56:28,280 --> 00:56:34,280
are a lot of people who are
all high and mighty when the Clippers had

761
00:56:34,320 --> 00:56:37,360
lost six in a row, when
they had lost five straight with James Harden

762
00:56:37,760 --> 00:56:42,280
and Will and I talked about this
a little bit last night, but I'm

763
00:56:42,320 --> 00:56:46,599
not hearing the same energy now that
they've won five straight and at one ten

764
00:56:46,639 --> 00:56:52,880
of thirteen and look like they have
a real viable system offensively. That's not

765
00:56:53,119 --> 00:56:59,920
just your turn, my turn,
Kawhi and PG and oh I don't know.

766
00:57:00,119 --> 00:57:04,000
When people say, look at Russ, he's sacrificing minutes, you're telling

767
00:57:04,039 --> 00:57:08,440
me James Harden hasn't sacrificed shots.
He only took nine last night, Chuck,

768
00:57:08,480 --> 00:57:12,960
how many shots has he taken so
far as a Clipper? What's his

769
00:57:13,079 --> 00:57:15,280
average shot attempt? Eleven per game? What is he How many shots is

770
00:57:15,280 --> 00:57:22,519
the average per game? It is
significantly lower than it's ever been in his

771
00:57:22,840 --> 00:57:27,199
entire career. And some people aren't
coming to grips with the fact that,

772
00:57:27,320 --> 00:57:34,239
oh, maybe James Harden there you
go, isn't playing the same way that

773
00:57:34,320 --> 00:57:37,199
he has in the past, and
maybe he is doing what he said he

774
00:57:37,360 --> 00:57:42,840
was going to do, and maybe
that a system comment was blown out of

775
00:57:42,880 --> 00:57:46,920
proportion. I'm still waiting for a
lot of people to say, you know

776
00:57:46,960 --> 00:57:51,679
what, he proved me wrong.
That's fine. Isn't that what you want

777
00:57:51,760 --> 00:57:55,320
as a Clipper fan, for him
to prove you wrong. Tell me this

778
00:57:55,480 --> 00:58:01,320
team and this starting lineup doesn't look
amazing out there with their one twenty offensive

779
00:58:01,400 --> 00:58:06,880
rating and one to zero five defensive
rating. Tell me that when they're shooting

780
00:58:06,920 --> 00:58:09,679
fifty two percent with that starting five
on the floor and over forty percent from

781
00:58:09,679 --> 00:58:15,199
the outside. That doesn't have something
to do with James Harden and not playing

782
00:58:15,840 --> 00:58:20,840
ISO ball all the time, like
a lot of people stereotype him as this

783
00:58:20,960 --> 00:58:25,159
an ISO dribbler, and instead he's
getting guys easy looks. He's bringing the

784
00:58:25,199 --> 00:58:29,519
best at a big zoo. That's
not a coincidence that it beats Zubos is

785
00:58:29,519 --> 00:58:32,079
playing the best some of the best
basketball of his career right now the last

786
00:58:32,119 --> 00:58:37,880
thirteen games with this new starting lineup, it's James Kawhi Leonard catching fire like

787
00:58:37,960 --> 00:58:44,159
this and talking about postgame how he
has more energy defensively because he doesn't have

788
00:58:44,239 --> 00:58:46,760
to do as much on the offensive
end, and him shooting sixty two percent

789
00:58:46,760 --> 00:58:51,440
from the field the last six games. I think we need to start giving

790
00:58:51,519 --> 00:58:54,719
James Harden some credit. I know
it's just winning ten of thirteen, but

791
00:58:54,800 --> 00:58:59,199
if you can't see the vision and
why they brought him in and why it

792
00:58:59,199 --> 00:59:01,280
would make sense to bring him in
next to two point three, I don't

793
00:59:01,280 --> 00:59:06,159
know what to tell you at this
point, eleven and six over the next

794
00:59:06,199 --> 00:59:07,840
seventeen and then people will believe.
Then we'll be at the fourth, Then

795
00:59:07,840 --> 00:59:12,960
we'll be at the Jrw. Fourteen
and six record. I agree with everything

796
00:59:13,000 --> 00:59:15,280
you said. A lot of people
are still gonna be like, wait till

797
00:59:15,320 --> 00:59:17,679
the playoffs. I'm gonna end up
being right. I'm playing the long game.

798
00:59:17,800 --> 00:59:22,159
You guys don't know. I don't
have to apologize for anything yet.

799
00:59:22,599 --> 00:59:25,920
I'm sorry, but it's working the
way they constructed this. Bringing Russ off

800
00:59:25,960 --> 00:59:30,559
the bench, who looks happy?
Does he look like a guy who's upset?

801
00:59:30,960 --> 00:59:39,159
Russ stands, stand down, stand
down, Russell Westbrook, he is

802
00:59:39,239 --> 00:59:44,280
playing well in this role off the
bench. I heard the chance last night.

803
00:59:44,360 --> 00:59:46,519
We want Russ late in the fourth
quarter. They wanted him back out

804
00:59:46,519 --> 00:59:51,159
there. He acknowledged the crowd,
he pointed to them. He's got a

805
00:59:51,159 --> 00:59:55,679
big smile on his face. Russell
Westbrook looks like somebody who wanted to sacrifice

806
00:59:55,719 --> 01:00:00,920
for the betterment of the team.
And it's working and he's happy they're winning.

807
01:00:00,519 --> 01:00:06,119
So support Russ in that decision.
That's what I would say. I

808
01:00:06,159 --> 01:00:08,559
love it. I love this energy. Do you think we're gonna see who's

809
01:00:08,599 --> 01:00:14,159
gonna be more valuable in this game
against the Warriors? Hardener Russ, the

810
01:00:14,199 --> 01:00:20,679
Warriors without Draymond Green, who's suspended
indefinitely for talk about clowns. I'll tell

811
01:00:20,679 --> 01:00:27,159
you what I thought it should have
been a fall on nerk back in mind

812
01:00:27,239 --> 01:00:30,000
it that's a foul on nerk Rod
is Rod in the room with us right

813
01:00:30,039 --> 01:00:36,760
now? Are we? How much
does this affect Clippers versus Warriors? He's

814
01:00:36,800 --> 01:00:40,360
been over the last five games,
four of their most played lineups involved Draymond

815
01:00:40,400 --> 01:00:45,079
Green. How are we feeling?
Is this a trap game now that Draymond's

816
01:00:45,079 --> 01:00:50,079
out? I don't know it's PG
playing? He's questionable? Right? Do

817
01:00:50,159 --> 01:00:52,760
you want him? Oh? Here's
the question? Will do you want PG

818
01:00:52,920 --> 01:00:58,480
to play? Yep? Trust your
guys? Yeah, I mean why not?

819
01:01:00,599 --> 01:01:04,280
Like, yeah, I want him
to play with? Should he play?

820
01:01:04,400 --> 01:01:07,719
I don't know. I'm not a
doctor? Okay, sure, all

821
01:01:07,840 --> 01:01:10,119
right, Adam? What are your
thoughts? Should he take the rest off?

822
01:01:10,119 --> 01:01:14,280
It's five? What is it?
Five and seven or a four and

823
01:01:14,360 --> 01:01:20,119
six or some shitty thing? Just
depends on how bad it is the severity

824
01:01:20,159 --> 01:01:22,320
of the injury and how bad you
want to win this game, and how

825
01:01:22,360 --> 01:01:25,559
bad do you think you need him. With the way Kawai is playing right

826
01:01:25,599 --> 01:01:30,920
now and having James Harden the fold, they're talented enough to win over this

827
01:01:31,039 --> 01:01:37,480
struggling Golden State Warriors team without Paul
George. They are, especially because Draymond

828
01:01:37,519 --> 01:01:43,320
Green and I don't like him obviously, especially over the last couple of years.

829
01:01:43,360 --> 01:01:45,880
It's just he's turning into a caricature
of what people thought of him.

830
01:01:46,800 --> 01:01:52,519
Things usually don't end pretty with dynasties
and teams like this, and it seems

831
01:01:52,519 --> 01:01:57,079
like it's starting to unravel a little
bit for the Golden State Warriors. But

832
01:01:57,440 --> 01:02:01,039
he's been their heart and soul.
There is a foundation when he's out there

833
01:02:01,039 --> 01:02:06,360
on the court. There's a reason
why they won four championships. There's a

834
01:02:06,400 --> 01:02:10,239
reason he and Steph Curry work so
well together. And even though his meager

835
01:02:10,360 --> 01:02:16,320
stats, they just don't account for
the impact on winning that Draymond Green has

836
01:02:16,360 --> 01:02:20,400
displayed with this Golden State Warriors team. So that's a big loss for them.

837
01:02:20,800 --> 01:02:24,599
So if you want to say both
teams are without pretty substantial players,

838
01:02:25,480 --> 01:02:30,440
I still think the Clippers by far
the more talented group, and they played

839
01:02:30,440 --> 01:02:35,239
Steph Curry pretty well the last two
times this season against Golden State. If

840
01:02:35,239 --> 01:02:37,679
they get up for that game,
regardless of if Paul George is available,

841
01:02:37,960 --> 01:02:43,159
I feel pretty good about their chances. And last game, Draymond went what

842
01:02:43,320 --> 01:02:45,719
four for eight from three, which
he had like twenty. It was absolutely

843
01:02:45,760 --> 01:02:52,320
insane. It's gross. It was
frustrating. Come on, he makes one

844
01:02:52,400 --> 01:02:55,159
three a game and he's already got
four threes made in the first quarter.

845
01:02:55,840 --> 01:03:00,000
Yeah, Will, what's a major
thing you're looking for from the clips in

846
01:03:00,039 --> 01:03:04,840
this game to make you feel good
about of it? Because they don't play

847
01:03:04,920 --> 01:03:09,480
until Nicks on Saturday after this game. I mean, really just more of

848
01:03:09,480 --> 01:03:15,440
the same. I want to continue
to see some consistency from Zoo as well

849
01:03:15,440 --> 01:03:20,599
as continuity from all the guys.
If Paul George is unable to go or

850
01:03:20,719 --> 01:03:23,039
you know, they just out of
an abundance, ideally out of an abundance

851
01:03:23,039 --> 01:03:27,679
of caution, he doesn't end up
going in this one, I'd really like

852
01:03:27,719 --> 01:03:30,559
to see what that looks like.
Does that insert norm into the starting lineup?

853
01:03:31,440 --> 01:03:35,760
I'm curious to see what that looks
like. But I think I think

854
01:03:35,800 --> 01:03:38,039
throughout the trials and tribulations of a
regular season, you know, we've had

855
01:03:38,679 --> 01:03:44,760
an overwhelming abundance of health and been
super lucky so far, but every team,

856
01:03:44,800 --> 01:03:46,599
every championship team, for the most
part, is going to have to

857
01:03:46,639 --> 01:03:51,840
go through spots this season, missing
some of their best talent, and to

858
01:03:51,880 --> 01:03:54,079
see how the Clippers who are currently
on this heater are able to respond to

859
01:03:54,119 --> 01:03:57,599
that. I think is going to
say a lot about where this team is

860
01:03:57,639 --> 01:04:01,400
and longevity wise, where this is. Even playing a team that is down

861
01:04:01,440 --> 01:04:04,320
as substantial is no I mean,
there's no way to underwrite it. A

862
01:04:04,559 --> 01:04:10,960
very substantial part of what makes the
Warriors good. And it's hard to take

863
01:04:11,000 --> 01:04:15,039
down a team three times within the
span of two weeks since they've been playing

864
01:04:15,039 --> 01:04:19,880
Golden State a lot recently, but
there's a path to do so. You

865
01:04:19,920 --> 01:04:26,039
mentioned Avisa Zubots the game with the
twenty two point comeback and the Paul George

866
01:04:26,079 --> 01:04:30,360
game winner over Klay Thompson against the
Golden State Warriors. Big Zoo was six

867
01:04:30,440 --> 01:04:35,519
of six from the field and he
didn't play a possession in the fourth quarter

868
01:04:35,679 --> 01:04:39,920
of that one ended up being the
right move. Daniel Tys was great,

869
01:04:40,239 --> 01:04:43,800
they went small, Coach Lou pushed
all the right buttons. But I'm telling

870
01:04:43,800 --> 01:04:48,840
you even more so without Draymond Green, there is an advantage there going against

871
01:04:48,920 --> 01:04:55,519
Looney or Dario Sarich. I want
to see Zoo get to finish what he

872
01:04:55,679 --> 01:05:00,199
started in that game when he was
six of six from the field. Want

873
01:05:00,199 --> 01:05:06,000
to see them exploit Avitza Zubats as
much as possible against this smaller Golden State

874
01:05:06,119 --> 01:05:11,960
Warriors team and not make it as
difficult as it has to be. Love

875
01:05:12,000 --> 01:05:15,559
to get a victory the path of
least resistance, That's what I'm looking for.

876
01:05:15,599 --> 01:05:19,800
I'm looking for the easy buckets.
Would be nice easy buckets and defensive

877
01:05:19,840 --> 01:05:25,719
integrity to start this game. Just
let's let's play like we haven't won five

878
01:05:25,760 --> 01:05:28,360
in a row, you know what
I mean, Like, let's let's set

879
01:05:28,400 --> 01:05:31,880
the tone at the point of attack. I hope Tyler's careful with the Westbrook

880
01:05:31,920 --> 01:05:34,400
cardin minutes. I'm not sure when
those are gonna be done. But if

881
01:05:34,400 --> 01:05:38,360
this game starts, if the starters
start off, they're usual, what are

882
01:05:38,400 --> 01:05:43,320
they plus ten point three in the
in the minutes they've all shared together.

883
01:05:43,400 --> 01:05:46,480
Now, Like, if we start
at that plus ten rate, I feel

884
01:05:46,480 --> 01:05:50,119
really good about this team because it
means the defense is doing a lot of

885
01:05:50,159 --> 01:05:53,880
good work. And without Paul George, that could be a taller order we

886
01:05:54,079 --> 01:05:57,039
like you talked about, but that
will show us. I don't know if

887
01:05:57,079 --> 01:05:59,800
they'll start norm if Paul George can't
go, just because that defense is a

888
01:05:59,800 --> 01:06:02,599
little you know, I don't know. It is the Warriors, which is

889
01:06:02,599 --> 01:06:05,679
always a pain in the ass,
but hey, I'm looking forward to it.

890
01:06:06,079 --> 01:06:11,360
That defense wrecked Sacramento yesterday. I
don't give a damn that. They

891
01:06:11,360 --> 01:06:14,239
were coming on a back to back
and they had just st a franchise record

892
01:06:14,239 --> 01:06:17,119
of made three pointers in a game
where they hit twenty five against Brooklyn the

893
01:06:17,199 --> 01:06:21,199
day before, and then they end
up shooting twenty five percent from three against

894
01:06:21,199 --> 01:06:26,119
the Clippers the very next night,
and Deer and Fox never got it going,

895
01:06:26,199 --> 01:06:30,880
so Bonus never got it going.
Monk to hold Sacramento to ninety nine

896
01:06:31,039 --> 01:06:35,840
points, that was one of the
better defensive efforts we've seen in the two

897
01:06:35,880 --> 01:06:40,440
pine three era. Considering I thought
they were gonna be tired legs. I

898
01:06:40,440 --> 01:06:44,440
thought it was a missed opportunity to
put Portland away to save legs for Sacramento.

899
01:06:44,920 --> 01:06:48,159
It didn't matter. They looked great
out there. It was looking good.

900
01:06:48,320 --> 01:06:51,079
It was looking good. Okay,
Now the most important part player of

901
01:06:51,119 --> 01:06:58,360
the game picks Adam Auslin's your player
of the game for Clippers versus Warriors.

902
01:06:58,800 --> 01:07:02,320
I'm piggybacking off myself of what I
just said with Big Zoo. I'm going

903
01:07:02,519 --> 01:07:06,079
with Big Zoo. He's been averaging
a double double. We're talking like fifteen

904
01:07:06,119 --> 01:07:13,239
and thirteen or something. He's been
averaging fourteen and I think eleven over like

905
01:07:13,320 --> 01:07:17,239
the last ten games now, So
I don't know. I'm gonna say twenty

906
01:07:17,280 --> 01:07:20,480
and thirteen from Big Zoo in the
game. That's what I'm going with it,

907
01:07:20,840 --> 01:07:25,440
all right, Well, Player of
the Game Clippers Warriors got Adam with

908
01:07:25,480 --> 01:07:31,039
twenty and thirteen from Big Zoo.
I'm gonna go with Harden And I think

909
01:07:31,039 --> 01:07:35,280
that this if Paul George doesn't go, we're gonna need to see him doubly

910
01:07:35,400 --> 01:07:40,920
aggressive offensively. And he's had I
mean, he's had quite a few great

911
01:07:41,000 --> 01:07:44,079
games throughout this stretch, but I
think that this one could be a standout

912
01:07:44,079 --> 01:07:46,760
for him, both as a facilitator
and as a scorer. And I have

913
01:07:46,840 --> 01:07:50,199
said that before and gotten burned,
but I'm feeling good about this one.

914
01:07:50,840 --> 01:07:55,559
And yeah, if they do have
to grind out a win without Paul George,

915
01:07:55,639 --> 01:07:58,320
he is one of those guys who's
gonna have to step up in a

916
01:07:58,360 --> 01:08:02,519
big way. And I think what
we saw with him aggressive like aggression wise

917
01:08:02,559 --> 01:08:08,079
against Sacramento the second night of a
back to back, might I add bodes

918
01:08:08,119 --> 01:08:12,239
well, bodes very well. I'm
going and I don't think any of us

919
01:08:12,280 --> 01:08:15,359
have ever picked this player before.
I'm going, No way, I did

920
01:08:15,439 --> 01:08:20,319
pick him once. I'm going Russ. I think Russ steps up in this

921
01:08:20,439 --> 01:08:24,960
game. I think we get good
Russ. I don't know if that means

922
01:08:25,000 --> 01:08:27,720
twenty five minutes, whatever, whatever, whatever. I think we get a

923
01:08:27,760 --> 01:08:30,840
good Russ game. I think it
helps us win in the game. It's

924
01:08:30,880 --> 01:08:33,359
maybe a little too close to than
we want it to be, but I'm

925
01:08:33,399 --> 01:08:38,319
picking Russ on this one. I
think part of the reason that they were

926
01:08:38,359 --> 01:08:41,920
trying out Russ and Harden in that
game where they were up by thirty in

927
01:08:42,439 --> 01:08:47,560
last night against the Kings was because
they saw the Golden State Warriors on the

928
01:08:47,560 --> 01:08:51,800
schedule, And we have a chance
to play smaller against this team, and

929
01:08:51,840 --> 01:08:57,039
we're gonna see it again, and
maybe maybe coach lou will find it.

930
01:08:57,239 --> 01:09:01,600
He'll find the right lineup we're Russ
and Harden can play together, because if

931
01:09:01,640 --> 01:09:06,479
you can figure that out, that
would be huge for unlocking a second unit

932
01:09:06,800 --> 01:09:12,159
that just brings more stability to this
team when starters are down or not playing

933
01:09:12,199 --> 01:09:15,359
heavier minutes. As we've mentioned earlier, or out like Paul George. Maybe,

934
01:09:15,640 --> 01:09:18,399
yeah, that's a good guy.
We'll be back with a double dip

935
01:09:18,439 --> 01:09:24,760
tomorrow over on AM five seventy tripod
on Sunday, something like that. We're

936
01:09:24,760 --> 01:09:28,680
gonna get it figure out. We're
also gonna think of a charity. If

937
01:09:28,720 --> 01:09:32,479
you've thought of a charity, comment
on YouTube YouTube dot comapla at Clibber's podcast

938
01:09:32,600 --> 01:09:36,760
that we should donate our give no
quarter funds to. We're looking at a

939
01:09:36,800 --> 01:09:41,039
pretty penny so far. We're up
to like, I think nine bucks between

940
01:09:41,039 --> 01:09:45,640
the three of us. We're barely
even core right through the season. Subscribe

941
01:09:45,640 --> 01:09:47,680
to us on YouTube. Will where
can these people listen to this podcast?

942
01:09:48,479 --> 01:09:51,840
So you can listen to the audio
version of this podcast wherever you get your

943
01:09:51,840 --> 01:09:55,520
podcasts. We're on Apple Podcasts,
We're on Spotify, We're on stitch you,

944
01:09:55,560 --> 01:09:58,279
We're on Deeze, We're on Google
podcast, We're on Amazon Music.

945
01:09:58,600 --> 01:10:02,760
But if you want the full experience
clips and the real, the real thing,

946
01:10:03,000 --> 01:10:08,039
you gotta go over to YouTube that's
at clippers podcast. Please give a

947
01:10:08,199 --> 01:10:12,479
like and subscribe. We'd really really
appreciate it. And as always, you

948
01:10:12,479 --> 01:10:14,479
know, if you want to chop
it up with us, we're over on

949
01:10:14,520 --> 01:10:17,520
Twitter. That's at Clippers Pod,
not Clippers Podcast, like the YouTube,

950
01:10:17,520 --> 01:10:21,119
which you should be liking and subscribing
to, and you can you can reach

951
01:10:21,199 --> 01:10:25,079
us over there, Adam, give
him the thumbs down. That's not a

952
01:10:25,079 --> 01:10:28,640
good way to kick this over,
Adam. We're so happy to have you

953
01:10:28,720 --> 01:10:30,600
back. The tripod is fully back. We went a little longer than usual,

954
01:10:30,680 --> 01:10:34,039
but that's what happens. Can we
get up some positive words before we

955
01:10:34,079 --> 01:10:38,640
send these Clippers fans out for an
episode that's really supposed to be listening to

956
01:10:38,640 --> 01:10:43,359
over maybe a couple of days.
As much as I like just receipt poaching,

957
01:10:45,680 --> 01:10:50,479
I love all you guys. Russ
stands as well. Stand up for

958
01:10:50,560 --> 01:10:56,520
your guy, Maybe stand down a
little bit with some of the rhetoric,

959
01:10:57,359 --> 01:11:01,159
because he is enjoying what the clip
are doing right now and the role he

960
01:11:01,279 --> 01:11:05,640
is playing. He's thriving in it, and I agree with Chuck he could

961
01:11:05,680 --> 01:11:11,479
be big tomorrow. I like the
winning plays he is making. He went

962
01:11:11,520 --> 01:11:16,840
from I think at times having more
of those empty stats to now having less

963
01:11:16,840 --> 01:11:23,039
stats that are more impactful to winning. Don't worry about his numbers, worry

964
01:11:23,039 --> 01:11:26,319
about the efficiency out there. Getting
to the basket. He turned down a

965
01:11:26,359 --> 01:11:30,319
three pointer in that game last night
in the corner and just took his man

966
01:11:30,439 --> 01:11:34,199
to the block and put it up
over him. Russ just bodying, guys.

967
01:11:34,359 --> 01:11:40,920
I love seeing that and him turning
into this fan favorite six man off

968
01:11:40,960 --> 01:11:45,399
the bench. This is the story
arc I want to see for Russell Westbrook

969
01:11:45,439 --> 01:11:50,800
to win a championship with this team
playing this role, it can all happen.

970
01:11:51,439 --> 01:11:56,039
And just you know, as Will
was springing up or I think Chuck

971
01:11:56,159 --> 01:11:59,760
was earlier about Coach Lou. Got
to give him credit for pushing a lot

972
01:11:59,760 --> 01:12:03,520
of the buttons right now. And
this Clippers team is finding themselves. They

973
01:12:03,560 --> 01:12:10,119
are it's coming together, keep it
going. Starts at the defensive end up

974
01:12:10,199 --> 01:12:12,159
unto the right, which I guess
if you're watching, is this way.

975
01:12:12,960 --> 01:12:15,239
Thank you for the positive words,
Adam, Thank you to everyone listening.

976
01:12:15,600 --> 01:12:18,840
We're back. The Clippers might win
every game from here on out. Who

977
01:12:18,920 --> 01:12:23,439
knows, that would be pretty cool. We'll be back with a double dip

978
01:12:23,479 --> 01:12:27,600
tomorrow, full tripod on Sunday,
and as always, let's go Clips and

979
01:12:27,680 --> 01:12:28,560
don't let Ron win.
