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Good afternoon, or maybe a bad afternoon

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fourteen fifty. It's the day after
and we'll talk a little bit about well,

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we'll talk a lot about that.
We've got a loaded show. Steve

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headed back from La covering the Sweet
six from where we covered the Sweet sixteen

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game yesterday. We'll get him on
the phone during the show. I've got

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Greg Hanson here once again to fill
in as a more than capable co host

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to help us break this stuff down. Adam is here running the board,

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and we've got a load of guests
today, a lot of guys who know

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a thing or two about basketball and
a lot more than either Greg or I

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do. Starting with Reggie Geary,
who's going to join us at three fifteen.

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We had read Geohn at the after
the first round game last week and

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provide a lot of good insight,
so he'll join us in after the first

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break Steve will come on after the
second break at about three p forty to

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give us his take on what he
saw last night. He had to call

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him out that just basically said,
you know, this is what we've been

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seeing kind of all year long.
You can follow him on All Sports Tucson

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and read his call umn. We'll
do breaking news at the top of the

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hour with Adham, and then at
four fifteen Scott Thompson, who was on

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Lot's staff, first staff here at
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Scott still lives in Tucson, and
he was a head He was a

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head basketball college basketball coach for a
number of years, and so he'll come

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in. And then we had just
here in the last half hour added Matt

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Mulebach, who will also come in
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loaded up for bear. If you
want to call the show, the only

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chance you'll the only time you'll be
able to call the show, because these

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guys are gonna be on the phone
the whole The whole show is going to

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be in the first segment of the
four o'clock hour when we're doing breaking news.

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But Greg, thanks for being here. My one feeling from what you

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just said is if you had had
those two guests you just mentioned, Reggie

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Gary and Matt Melbuck playing for Arizona
yesterday, they would still be playing.

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Yeah, exactly right. And and
well let's you know, let let's go

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there, because here we are again, you know, talking about another premature

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loss in the in the in the
pack, in the in the NC Double

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A tournament. I know that there
are people out there, and we were

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just talking about this that think it
was Clemson. Arizona should have been able

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to handle them. But Clemson's good, really good. Otherwise it wouldn't be

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where they are. And they're playing
very well right now. Uh and and

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they and they beat Arizona and they
they may they may handle Arizona. I

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thought your first takeaway from aside from
you wish they had Melbak and Geary on

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the team from what you saw last
night, you know, when the game

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ended, I thought, if you
had a tryout with the Clemson players in

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the Arizona players picking them for one
team, you'd probably pick maybe three Clemson

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players as a starter, Yeah,
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To me, it was that even
and we don't pay attention to clubs

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and all year at all right,
and the game starts and you realize,

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wow, that guy can play for
anybody, and that guy can play for

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anybody, and it's just like every
year. When College of Charleston almost beat

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Arizona last second possession, two weeks
before Arizone became a national champion, the

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assistant coach Phil Johnson came up and
told me their two guards are the best

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two guards we've seen all year.
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I try to remember that all the
time. Everybody has good players when you

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get there exactly. And that's the
thing. Everybody has good players when you

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get even to the even to the
second round, you know, first round,

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yeah, you know, it depends. Second round, everybody's good.

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You get to the sweet sixteen,
everybody can beat you and they don't even

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have to play their best to beat
you. Uh. And if you don't

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play well, if you don't play
even to what you're capable of, this

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is what happens. You know,
people are breaking down the down for you

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know a number of things. Well, they didn't do this, and Tommy

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didn't do that, and it just
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It was. I mean, yes, you know, you know, Adam

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and I were talking. You know, they had those you know, three

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under the basket inbounds plays that they
scored baskets on. You know what good

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teams do that to you. But
it's very simple. Arizona makes three four

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three pointers, they win the game
going away. I talked to Jim Rosboro

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today and he said almost exactly what
you just said. And I said,

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what about when they x and oa
like Utah did with the triangle too?

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And he goes, that didn't matter. He said that the shots we missed

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shots, open shots. Yeah,
and you said, the same thing happened

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last night and he's seen it for
fifty years. Yeah, and it wasn't

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you know. Were there a couple
of forced three pointers. Yeah, but

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there's always a couple of forced three
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they just didn't make, you know, And and it was I don't think

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there's anything other than that, you
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I mean, you can point to
a lot of other things that Arizona

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could have done better and whatnot,
but they won every statistical category except that

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one. I mean, when you
when your best player goes over nine from

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threes. You're you're you're not gonna
You're not gonna win. You can't.

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And he had good looks, Yeah, no he did. He had a

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bunch of good looks. But they
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mean, I was literally gonna say
that a bunch of those shots weren't.

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They clanged off and went out of
bounds and stuff. I mean, they

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were just bad. Colin Boswall threw
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he shoot? Did he throw up? Yesterday? You know? I mean,

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and I guess the one thing that
I wonder is at what point?

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And well, that's Red he's a
coach, right, And well that's Scott

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Thompson, he's a coach. When
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when do you go to something else
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because you know or you think at
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work. Every time loved me.
Before the ball got there, I thought,

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well, this one's going in change, yeah, and then miss worse

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than the previous one. Right,
all right, we've got we've got Tommy

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Lloyd's postgame press conference cued up.
It's about six and a half minutes.

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We're just gonna play it in its
entirety. Get in his comments, Greg

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and I'll have a couple of minutes
to talk about that afterwards. Then I'll

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probably react to that throughout the show. So let's hear what Tommy Lloyd had

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to say last night. Solid Book
went from PhD X sports coach, you

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know, this is the second time
we got into the Sweet sixteen. What

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did you do differently from the first
experience, last year's experience to this year,

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and then what would you have maybe
possibly changed moving forward. Well,

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you know, we'll analyze all that
stuff after the season, but I'm proud

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of these guys. These guys did
an amazing job this year. They're a

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great team. I mean that they're
a team that, you know, we

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had the ability to get to a
final four and we didn't, and that

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happens, so like it's nothing to
look down upon. There there's probably eight

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or ten teams that could say that
this year, and only you know,

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you know, three or four of
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four, and we were one of
them. So I'm proud of these guys.

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They dug back, they dug deep. You know, all season we

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worked really hard on kind of taking
the next steps of our culture of Arizona

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basketball, mean really hard, and
we're very intentional with it, and these

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guys are great participants, and they
really allowed me to kind of continue to

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build on the foundation, you know, of what we started at Arizona and

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what was there before us. So
I'm thankful for that and and that's what

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we're gonna do. We're just gonna
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gonna continue to to get teams that
are this competitive and you know what,

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our day and the sun will come. Jorda Mendoza USA Today sports coach.

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Wasn't the best night shooting from beyond
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to do a lot in the posts
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like drive more in and stop taking
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I mean, I thought Clemson did
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of got us on our heels offensive
offensively early in the game, and and

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we settled for a lot of tough
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them to get out because I think
I think our defense was actually okay early

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and it was kind of low scoring
early, and we're right there, and

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then you know, they got to
going offensive a little bit, and we

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just never quite did until later in
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second half, we made a more
concerted efferent. We wanted to attack those

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guys, move the ball, attack, drive close outs, you know,

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play with our feet in the ground
and the paint, and our guys did

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a much better job of that in
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desert swarm. When you were able
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half, briefly take the lead and
then clems it kind of punches back,

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gets up and then you tie it
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had enough punches to just keep and
maybe push them aside. I mean,

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I thought we were fine, you
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we go, we didn't play well
to start the game. We're only down

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eight and a half, you know, as you guys, you know,

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the fought us closely. We've had
a couple other games where we've been down

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in nineteen or twenty, you know, and being able to come back and

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win them. So I thought we
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positioned for how we started the game, and we made that first run of

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the second half, which is great
and you know, from there, you

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know they're gonna probably make a little
run, but then you know, hopefully

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it's a little one, and then
we make the next run and we can

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kind of, you know, eventually
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lead, and we just were never
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and so Clemson gets a ton of
credit for that. Coach John W.

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Davis with a Orange County register here
in the Los Angeles area. You out

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rebounded them, you know, score
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points in the paint, like all
of these things that you normally see when

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teams win, other than maybe the
shooting percentage. What do you feel like,

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what's the difference? Well, this
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I mean, you know, we
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threes were two for twenty three,
you know, which is you know a

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lot to overcome, and you know, I feel like, you know,

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some of them were good looks and
shots we've made, you know, all

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season, and today they just didn't
go in. And you know, so

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I think our guys deserve a ton
of credit. I mean, to have

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that sort of shooting night and to
get yourself in the game where you have

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a position to win it, I
think is incredible and and it just shows

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the resiliency and the boughness of these
guys. And you know, we kind

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of had to adjust plans and our
guys were willing participants in that. So

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I'm really proud of them forgetting themselves
a chance to win because, you know,

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especially without JB playing the way he
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lose by fourteen sixteen points, but
JB got in there and you know that

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that we were down to the last
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on a night where we didn't shoot
the ball, well, yeah, Temmy

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Steven Berrel on sportstoosun dot com.
When you have a chance to reflect on

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this year, what do you think
will come to mind for yourself? We

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just love I mean, I love
these guys. I love the culture we're

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starting to really build upon, you
know, at Arizona. I feel like,

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you know, I'm real big on
you know, eventually getting some compound

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return on our investment, and I
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think we're doing all the right things. You know, obviously we're not perfect,

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and no one is, and we
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We just want to be making progress. So I love where we're at.

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You know, I think, you
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breath, but I'm going to take
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we'll reevaluate and we're gonna have another
really good off season and continue to build.

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Go ahead. Second row coach in
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went Keyshad and Caleb, you know, provide a lot for your team this

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year. When you take a step
back and look at their production and what

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they contributed to this program, what
does get your ultimate takeaway're going to be.

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I mean, they're incredible guys,
and I'm just so thankful that you

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know, they took a chance on
coming to Arizona and and play for our

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staff. I mean, you know, it was an incredible experience all all

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off season and in season long.
So I'm just thankful. I mean,

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it just it reinforces to me that
you can do things the right way,

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run the right culture, and put
yourself put your team in position to to

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compete at the highest level. So
we're just gonna double down on all that,

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and and those guys reaffirm my belief
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with great high character guys. The
last few possessions defensively, I believe the

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umer was out, was that partly
to avoid if they were to foul him?

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And then did it just lead to
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you know, we were just trying
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know, we're trying to pick up
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and you know, you're at that
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with a loose pass and you know
someone can break on that. You know,

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these things of that nature. We're
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a little bit more of a pressing
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all five positions instead of the you
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hey, you know in New Clemson, you know, kind of they they

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found an answer down the stretch and
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you know, maybe three baskets off
slips, you know, versus the

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switches, you know, which you
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and they get credit for for executing. All right. So that was Tommy

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Lloyd at the press conference last night, you know, even keeled as he

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always is, and you know,
to my point that we were talking about

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you know, off fair. You
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media and just drive me crazy,
and I wish I would not let them.

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They want accountability and what does that
mean? Right? Do you want

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him yelling at his players in front
of everybody? Is that what you want?

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Or you get pissed off when other
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go look at that coach. Our
coach doesn't do that? But is that?

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What is that? What accountability is? Are you upset that he didn't

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call guys out in the press conference? Yeah, that's that's the question with

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no good answer, right, And
I mean accountability. He's probably got the

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nation's number one recruiting class coming in
next year, So it's not like he's

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lagging or he's letting off. Right. He's won more games than anyone west

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of the Mississippi in the last three
years. Where are you going to find

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someone better than that? Exactly?
Exactly? And and and what is it

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that? What is it that he
doesn't have that you want? What's missing?

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And I'm not sure what that is
because let's not forget. While he's

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been a coach for a really long
time, he's been a head coach for

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three years, three years, find
me another coach has done what he's done,

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and he took over a program really
in a mess. It was a

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mess. He was inherited three really
good players. But he's taking it to

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the next level from there, and
there's a couple more levels to get to,

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right, and he's really shown that
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it's just like we're talking about before, when you get to this level,

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it's fifty to fifty even if you're
really good. Yeah, who's more unhappy

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today? Arizona faner a North Carolina
fan, right right, Adam, I

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mean who is more unhappy? Probably
North Carolina fan because their expectations are one

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notch higher than Arizona, right right, and they finished at the same place,

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at the same spot. All right, we're going to take our break.

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We got Reggie Geary coming in into
that on the show, so we'll

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talk to Reggie, get his thoughts. He you know, when I act

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change text messages, he expressed and
he was pretty frustrated as well, but

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you know, he's a coach a
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some pretty good perspect on this.
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on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I
think we have Richie sounds like you're just

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right here. It sounds like you
just got rolled or something like that.

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I'm out here at the track.
So yeah, there's a going on all

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right. Well, we appreciate we
appreciate you being here with us. I

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know that you're a busy guy.
And but and we went to the well

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again because we had John last week
after a win. Now we got you

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after one of those losses that have
become all too familiar for us. I've

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got Greg Hanson here with us,
so you know he's he's on on on

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with us. But you know,
just here, initial initial take, initial

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thoughts on on where you are right
now. Yeah, I think I,

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like a lot of people, I'm
disappointed, grated just because you know,

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I knew it's I know what kind
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have how well they've played for majority
of the season. And then when you

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take into combination the fact that we
got unbelievable draws, all the stars were

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fined really for the lead a final
four run and come up the way we

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did short play the way we did, I'm disappointing obviously, was frustrating.

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So you're getting we're getting a lot
of I don't know, if it's windy

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out there. We're getting a lot
of feedback there. But you know,

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as you were watching the game,
are you watching the game like a coach

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or like a player? And what
do you think in terms of what's going

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on in the game, particularly in
this game last night? Yeah, great

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questions. You know, in all
honesty, having been a coach for fourteen

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years, you know, eight of
the head as an assistant for coach Olson

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at s, you know, I
pretty much always look at a game from

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a coaching standpoint, So I'm evaluating
strategies and just kind of going by it,

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you know, as if I was
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it was just it was a great
game in terms of the different styles and

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matchups and the coaches making maneuvers,
and you know, just for whatever reason,

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it just didn't It didn't turn over
for us, Ritt, Reggie.

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You've seen superstars like Damon and Khalid
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So is it just something that happens. I mean, you can't really.

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It's just a happenstance of college basketball, isn't it. Yeah? It

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is. You know, you're dealing
with eighteen, nineteen twenty, you know,

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twenty two year old, and you
know it doesn't always go well.

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I remember in ninety four at the
Final four, you know, Damon and

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Kalid, you know, neither one
had a good shooting night. It was

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probably the first time we ever had
both guys off. You always uly they

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had one on, but for whatever
reason, that night they were off.

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You can see last night the entire
team gone off to a slow start.

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You could see every misshot is kind
of affecting them defectively and their energy and

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they just you know, it just
took you know, really kay Jake Lewis

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in the first half to go on
a little baby run with a dunk and

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a steel to kind of get them
going. And then obviously Jason Bradley in

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the second half. So when when
you when you're seeing that as a coach,

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I mean, you know, middle
of the second half, they were

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you know whatever they were, I
mean, they just were not hitting shots.

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Do you try something else or do
you say it's got to turn right.

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I Mean, there's there's so many
people that, you know, the

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armchair quarterbacks or the Monday morning quarterbacks
saying well you should have stopped shooting threes

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and done something else. But on
the other hand, you think Caleb Love

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is eventually going to start making that
the that the percentag is going to come

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back to you, and that you
guys are going to start hitting shots.

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What do you do as a coach
in a situation like that? How do

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you decide what to do? Yeah, it's such a fine line. It

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really a case by case. Like
you know the players and team and your

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assistant playing, and yeah, you
want them to stay confident and aggressive.

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And if you're staying call Love you
if you have room. And your Peter

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said, you know, shoot the
ball. Was confident. But at some

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point when things aren't going well,
they're not going in now you're start maybe

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changing your conversation and say, hey, let's let's let's see what you do

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some other things to get us going. Let's let's drive the ball and get

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to the free throw line defensively,
Let's see if we can, you know,

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show some urgency and get some stops
and maybe that'll lead to a fast

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break and then maybe that will get
you going. And so you want you

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don't want to ever take away their
confidence or say don't shoot off, say

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people are going well, or you
find yourself in a bonus or double bonus.

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You want to double down at that
point and really take advantage to put

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you on some officials in the opponents
by attacking the rip. Do you think

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that the general you have a fan
fails to appreciate how difficult it is to

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win a game in the tournament?
Oh? Well, you know, I

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think we were spoiled obviously through the
coach Olsen era. You know, getting

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to a final four every four years. There wasn't a class that didn't play

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in a final four for the most
part, and so that gave the perception

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that this is something that is supposed
to happen, you know, more times

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than not. And for us not
to have got to a final four and

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twenty plus years and is shocking.
But it does also indicate how difficult it

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is, especially you know today and
with the way things have changed, because

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you know, and Tommy's done it
too. You go out and you get

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good players from somewhere else and you
rebuild your team. You know, Tommy's

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gonna have to do that coming up. But you know, the more teams

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are better, it seems to me
like, yeah, I mean, that's

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just the nature of the game.
All the coaches are dealing with it.

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In terms of the roster and transporportal
and you know all those things that kind

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of come with being a Commis coach
nowadays. And Tommy and staff have done

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a great job and they're going to
continue to have to because it really puts

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the onus on coaches now and their
ability to teach and keep the group together

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that maybe had to be together very
long and so it's very challenging. So

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you've been you've been on both sides
of this. You know, you got

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you got to a final four,
had had a couple of first round losses.

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How do you gather yourself? How
is how would these guys gather themselves?

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And they're going to do some key
guys. But in the end,

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00:26:08.039 --> 00:26:11.519
Tommy's got to pull you know,
keep this program, hold it together.

409
00:26:11.559 --> 00:26:14.359
He's got a good recruiting class coming
in. But you know, what's the

410
00:26:14.400 --> 00:26:18.440
next thing? How do you move
on from this? And way, yeah,

411
00:26:18.559 --> 00:26:22.680
great question. I think you don't
move on too quickly. You definitely

412
00:26:22.720 --> 00:26:26.519
want to assess this, figure out
what occurred. I'll through alcohol team,

413
00:26:26.920 --> 00:26:30.799
whether it's our relationship building with our
players, whether it was our system in

414
00:26:30.920 --> 00:26:33.480
game adjustments. Everything. You want
to look at everything. You don't want

415
00:26:33.480 --> 00:26:37.440
to move on too quick. You
want to evaluate exactly what transpired. And

416
00:26:37.440 --> 00:26:40.920
then once you've done that, yeah, you can focus on incoming. I'll

417
00:26:40.920 --> 00:26:42.960
finding some players in the portal.
I'm making sure the guys that are coming

418
00:26:44.000 --> 00:26:47.559
back or working on their strength and
improving their weaknesses, and so you just

419
00:26:47.599 --> 00:26:49.160
start building again. But you don't
want to move on too quick. You

420
00:26:49.680 --> 00:26:52.880
want to you want to feel this
one so it doesn't happen again, hopefully,

421
00:26:53.799 --> 00:26:57.480
don't you think one of the pluses
here is that even though Arizona loss

422
00:26:57.559 --> 00:27:02.440
yesterday, you look at next year
and you can see them being back there

423
00:27:02.480 --> 00:27:06.279
again next year. Oh yeah,
I mean, and that's what And you

424
00:27:06.400 --> 00:27:08.480
definitely can to see, you know, on paper for sure, obviously Jaden

425
00:27:08.519 --> 00:27:14.160
Bramley kJ Lewis you know Connor Boswell, those guys coming back and surely showing

426
00:27:14.279 --> 00:27:17.680
backward. You know, there's some
really good pieces. Obviously the cruity is

427
00:27:17.759 --> 00:27:21.160
very very strong. But you know, honestly, that's always going to be

428
00:27:21.200 --> 00:27:23.640
airs on the story, you know, A sorry, we always recruit well,

429
00:27:23.640 --> 00:27:26.880
we've always done well, so we're
always be in the conversation, which

430
00:27:26.920 --> 00:27:30.480
is great. And now you know, like I'm sure everyone else agree that

431
00:27:30.559 --> 00:27:33.200
we got to put the show and
you've got to get to that next level.

432
00:27:33.519 --> 00:27:36.839
Okay, So if you had an
opportunity to sit down with Tommy Lloyd,

433
00:27:36.920 --> 00:27:38.960
that's somebody who you know, you're
not in the locker room every day,

434
00:27:40.160 --> 00:27:42.160
although you have a lot of familiarity
with the program, who would you

435
00:27:42.160 --> 00:27:47.640
talk to him about? What would
you say to him today? I wouldn't

436
00:27:47.640 --> 00:27:52.200
say just for me Tommy, obviously
he's well established. My coach, Trevis

437
00:27:52.200 --> 00:27:56.039
has had a great success. You
know. I would obviously say, you

438
00:27:56.079 --> 00:28:02.160
know, keep your head up,
you know these things happy uh uh?

439
00:28:02.559 --> 00:28:04.480
Like as you mentioned, you're building
something your foundation. Continue to keep your

440
00:28:04.519 --> 00:28:07.759
head down and building and see where
you need to get better. But there's

441
00:28:07.799 --> 00:28:11.119
nothing I need to tell him,
you know. I would just encourage him

442
00:28:11.119 --> 00:28:14.559
to continue to be in self and
it just continue tightening up your craft,

443
00:28:14.640 --> 00:28:17.839
like like we all do. I
want to ask you one last question because

444
00:28:17.839 --> 00:28:19.799
this came up. I'm you know, I get I see these games then

445
00:28:19.839 --> 00:28:22.759
again on social media, which I
just shouldn't do, and I can't help

446
00:28:22.799 --> 00:28:29.400
myself. But people keep talking about
accountability that they don't feel like Tommy holds

447
00:28:29.440 --> 00:28:33.359
players accountable. What the hell does
that mean, what would that mean to

448
00:28:33.440 --> 00:28:40.480
you when you know people are accountable? Is you know, for me,

449
00:28:40.559 --> 00:28:42.640
it is if you do well,
I'm gonna I'm gonna encourage you, I'm

450
00:28:42.640 --> 00:28:45.720
gonna get behind you. And if
you're not doing well, well we're we're

451
00:28:45.759 --> 00:28:48.440
gonna have a conversation and we're gonna
try to correct that. And if it

452
00:28:48.480 --> 00:28:52.920
gets over the line, then you
know, ructually becomes more severe, you

453
00:28:52.920 --> 00:28:56.440
know, And so just holding people
accountable. If you're doing the right thing,

454
00:28:56.519 --> 00:28:59.200
then yeah, we're gonna praise you
and you're gonna get get minutes and

455
00:28:59.240 --> 00:29:00.200
it's gonna go. Well. If
you're not, we're going to try to

456
00:29:00.200 --> 00:29:03.680
correct it. And your continues go
down the wrong path, well you know,

457
00:29:03.759 --> 00:29:07.559
they will take away what you love
and that and that is you know,

458
00:29:07.880 --> 00:29:10.559
his game minute. You know,
everyone always says the greatest uh,

459
00:29:10.640 --> 00:29:15.200
you know, the greatest teaching tool
a coach has the bench, right you

460
00:29:15.240 --> 00:29:17.680
know, putting him on the bench
and sitting him out for a game,

461
00:29:17.799 --> 00:29:22.720
saying hey, we'll lose a game
potentially because as of your transgression that we

462
00:29:22.759 --> 00:29:25.680
cannot allow that to happen. And
so those are the kind of things that

463
00:29:25.759 --> 00:29:29.240
you know, you look for to
do to get everybody's mind. But there's

464
00:29:29.279 --> 00:29:33.599
no way in hell a fan,
somebody sitting out here can look at Tommy

465
00:29:33.640 --> 00:29:37.319
and look at his team and say
he is or isn't holding his players accountable?

466
00:29:37.519 --> 00:29:40.720
Is there no way you have to
be there date. You know,

467
00:29:40.799 --> 00:29:44.680
it's thirty sixty five jobs. You
know, they're they're getting touch points with

468
00:29:44.799 --> 00:29:47.359
their players every single day, and
they know the mood, they know what's

469
00:29:47.359 --> 00:29:49.480
going on in their family, with
their party. You know, there's just

470
00:29:49.519 --> 00:29:53.359
a lot going on that the normal
fan doesn't see. So that's the thing.

471
00:29:53.440 --> 00:29:56.359
You can eyeball it from the stands
and realize, you know, one

472
00:29:56.359 --> 00:29:59.440
way or the other. You know, I think that would be unfair.

473
00:30:00.160 --> 00:30:03.039
Okay, that's good. I'm glad. I wanted you to say that,

474
00:30:03.079 --> 00:30:04.799
because that's to me, that's what
it is. And there's no way any

475
00:30:04.799 --> 00:30:07.119
of us can know what the hell
is going on in that locker room.

476
00:30:07.240 --> 00:30:11.960
There's just no way. A lot
of dynamics, a lot of dynamics.

477
00:30:11.119 --> 00:30:14.519
All right, Reggie, appreciate the
time. I know you're busy, guys,

478
00:30:14.519 --> 00:30:17.559
so I really do appreciate you coming
on this week and last week and

479
00:30:17.680 --> 00:30:21.319
all you know, all season long, you've been a great guest for us,

480
00:30:21.359 --> 00:30:26.240
So thank you so much for giving
us your time, rightly appreciate it.

481
00:30:26.599 --> 00:30:27.680
Greg, thanks for your having me
on. Guys, everybody out there,

482
00:30:27.680 --> 00:30:33.240
lockout, you keep your heads up. We're gonna be all right.

483
00:30:33.400 --> 00:30:36.720
All right, sounds great. Thanks
Reggie. All right, that was Reggie,

484
00:30:36.759 --> 00:30:41.039
Gary, a lot of good stuff. I love you. Know again,

485
00:30:41.240 --> 00:30:42.680
unless you're a player and in that
locker room and you're win of the

486
00:30:42.680 --> 00:30:45.640
coaches, you don't know what the
hell's going on, and stop acting like

487
00:30:45.680 --> 00:30:49.319
you do and stop telling those guys
what to do. Reggie is one of

488
00:30:49.359 --> 00:30:53.160
the best guys you could have ever
asked about that because he was there after

489
00:30:53.200 --> 00:30:56.400
those back to back exits, right, and then it all goes away the

490
00:30:56.400 --> 00:30:59.400
next year when you go you go
to the final four, right, and

491
00:30:59.440 --> 00:31:04.200
then they did but then they did
it again. But still those things you

492
00:31:04.240 --> 00:31:07.319
know again we we we talked about
it the at the at the you know,

493
00:31:07.359 --> 00:31:11.680
before the tournament, you gotta be
good and you got to be playing

494
00:31:11.680 --> 00:31:14.960
your best, but you also got
you know, you match up with somebody

495
00:31:14.960 --> 00:31:19.279
that does something that you're you know
that that you can't deal with, and

496
00:31:19.319 --> 00:31:23.319
you're gonna lose. I mean,
did you think of Arkansas was going to

497
00:31:23.359 --> 00:31:26.559
be in North Carolina last night,
going in Alabama, I mean Alabama,

498
00:31:26.720 --> 00:31:32.400
no way, because my memory of
Alabama is the team Arizona beat. Yeah,

499
00:31:32.480 --> 00:31:34.559
and I turned it on only in
the last four minutes away. How

500
00:31:34.559 --> 00:31:38.559
did this happen? Which is probably
what Arizona fans were saying, Yeah,

501
00:31:38.720 --> 00:31:42.759
exactly why why is Alabama in the
lead eight in Arizona is not we beat

502
00:31:42.799 --> 00:31:48.400
them? Because that's college basketball.
And Alabama's best player was that tall,

503
00:31:48.400 --> 00:31:53.880
skinny white hare with He was the
best player in the court. Heard of

504
00:31:53.920 --> 00:31:57.720
it, exactly, exactly. All
Right, We're gonna go take our next

505
00:31:57.720 --> 00:32:07.599
break. We're hoping Steve Rivera is
in a cell phone zone. He's kind

506
00:32:07.599 --> 00:32:09.839
of in the middle of nowhere.
We're gonna try and get him on hope

507
00:32:09.880 --> 00:32:15.279
the call holds. But we'll come
back and we'll see if we've got Steve

508
00:32:15.319 --> 00:32:16.400
on the air, and then we'll
get to the top of the hour,

509
00:32:16.440 --> 00:32:20.519
we'll do some breaking news and will
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talk to you, Amy. I
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in studio. So Steve, hopefully
this call will hang on for the duration

552
00:35:23.480 --> 00:35:27.800
of the segment. All right,
man, So what's up? What do

553
00:35:27.840 --> 00:35:31.920
you think in the day after?
Wow? Well, I think when we

554
00:35:31.960 --> 00:35:38.480
talked last in terms, oh,
your buddies right on Wednesday, and they

555
00:35:38.519 --> 00:35:42.880
had no issues with tim Son at
all. And then I asked you did

556
00:35:42.920 --> 00:35:45.719
they ever see him play? And
you said no, And I think that's

557
00:35:45.719 --> 00:35:47.840
the fish for a lot of people. You didn't know or no one knew

558
00:35:47.840 --> 00:35:52.159
how good Thompson pretty was. I
think they finished fifth or six in the

559
00:35:52.280 --> 00:35:57.679
league, going for eleven and nine, and they were pretty good. And

560
00:35:58.000 --> 00:36:02.039
we and we all all seasons saw
a gonna play uh mediocre against good teams

561
00:36:02.039 --> 00:36:06.679
and mediocre against bad teams. And
they ran up against the pretty good team

562
00:36:06.719 --> 00:36:10.199
that had Arizona solved. They yeah, I mean they had Arizona solved.

563
00:36:10.199 --> 00:36:15.239
But to me, you know,
we can go into all the different things,

564
00:36:15.239 --> 00:36:17.280
but to me, it was as
simple as not making shots. You

565
00:36:17.280 --> 00:36:21.280
know, there is you know,
I mean, Clemson did what they were

566
00:36:21.280 --> 00:36:24.000
gonna do defensively, offensively, whatnot. But to me, it just came

567
00:36:24.039 --> 00:36:28.039
down to shots. I mean,
what you saw it or what did you

568
00:36:28.079 --> 00:36:30.559
think? But the other team,
the other team created those problems and they

569
00:36:30.559 --> 00:36:35.760
scored pretty easily. I mean the
final few minutes there was a Clemson had

570
00:36:35.920 --> 00:36:39.519
its way with Arizona and then you
know, to get those key baskets underneath

571
00:36:39.559 --> 00:36:44.559
the basket. Uh So that was
that was an issue. Uh. And

572
00:36:44.559 --> 00:36:45.719
and the things that I was gonna
talk to you about this on Monday,

573
00:36:46.199 --> 00:36:51.119
that I brought to you all year
where two things followed, not hitting Pitos

574
00:36:51.360 --> 00:36:55.960
and Caleb Love going cold. Yeah, you know, and since January first

575
00:36:55.960 --> 00:37:01.679
in Arizona's conference games. In the
postseasons game, Boswell was eight for forty

576
00:37:01.719 --> 00:37:07.559
eight on threes. Wow, sixteen, I mean that's your point. Yeah,

577
00:37:08.119 --> 00:37:10.519
yeah, I mean Greig and I
have been around a long time,

578
00:37:10.559 --> 00:37:15.159
and I'll take one of those guys, you know, kerr and eighty eight

579
00:37:15.239 --> 00:37:19.599
when he's thirteen, Selene two thirty? Yeah, oh no, yeah,

580
00:37:19.679 --> 00:37:27.760
I think it was that experience is
from when when did you feel it was

581
00:37:27.800 --> 00:37:30.840
a loss? How early or how
late did you feel this this game's a

582
00:37:30.840 --> 00:37:37.440
loss? Oh? How soon?
When did I feel it was gonna happen?

583
00:37:37.800 --> 00:37:40.880
In once the game started? When
did it feel like lost to you?

584
00:37:40.920 --> 00:37:45.719
Like Arizona's not gonna win this game? Well, I didn't think by

585
00:37:45.400 --> 00:37:49.360
thirteen was ready. Well, they
have a chance to come back. They've

586
00:37:49.360 --> 00:37:52.880
done it all year. When they
came back, storm back, and I

587
00:37:52.079 --> 00:37:54.400
took the leader, I said,
well here they go. You know,

588
00:37:54.559 --> 00:38:01.719
you know you're I'm gonna pull it
out. So I don't know, I

589
00:38:01.760 --> 00:38:05.840
don't know how to ask that question. Okay, I mean I thought early

590
00:38:05.880 --> 00:38:07.519
on. It. Let me put
it this, it felt like a loss

591
00:38:07.599 --> 00:38:12.320
early on, like five minutes into
the game. I thought they could still

592
00:38:12.360 --> 00:38:16.599
win, but it felt like one
of those games that ends up inevitably being

593
00:38:16.599 --> 00:38:22.320
a loss. And it became a
loss when they couldn't score. For both

594
00:38:22.360 --> 00:38:29.400
of you, guys, Clemson,
you had a chance. Yeah, we're

595
00:38:29.800 --> 00:38:34.000
we're losing him. Yeah, you're
you're kind of coming in and out.

596
00:38:34.039 --> 00:38:37.519
You said Clemson had a chance.
What Yeah, did you think they had

597
00:38:37.519 --> 00:38:39.880
a chance, because I'm sure you
hadn't seen them that often. No,

598
00:38:39.880 --> 00:38:43.440
No, but but Steve, you
know, I mean, I know enough

599
00:38:43.920 --> 00:38:46.400
about this to know that you get
to the Sweet sixteen and no matter whether

600
00:38:46.440 --> 00:38:50.440
you're playing Saint Peter's or somebody else, you're playing somebody who's good enough to

601
00:38:50.440 --> 00:38:53.119
beat you. And if you're not
playing well and you don't play you know

602
00:38:53.559 --> 00:38:57.360
better than you normally play, there's
a good chance you're going to lose.

603
00:38:57.400 --> 00:38:59.840
So, I mean, I thought
they were going to win, you know.

604
00:39:00.159 --> 00:39:02.079
You know, at the end of
the show on Wednesday, you know,

605
00:39:02.119 --> 00:39:05.320
Sammy and I were talking. He
said, do you think I said,

606
00:39:05.400 --> 00:39:07.039
yeah, I think they win.
I think he Harzelon handles them because

607
00:39:07.039 --> 00:39:12.400
they're playing. You know, they
haven't played great, but they're playing better

608
00:39:12.440 --> 00:39:15.360
than you know, what we had
seen. And I thought they were zeroed

609
00:39:15.400 --> 00:39:20.000
in and and so yeah, I
thought they were gonna win. But when

610
00:39:20.039 --> 00:39:23.400
they when they didn't hit their first
basket until you know, the sixteen minute

611
00:39:23.440 --> 00:39:29.320
mark, I thought, that's exactly
how games start in the tournament when they

612
00:39:29.360 --> 00:39:34.239
lose. Right, I don't know
in the hall. I think in nineteen

613
00:39:34.280 --> 00:39:42.800
ninety ninety one when Arizona had no
chance in Seattle and then Cali right it

614
00:39:42.800 --> 00:39:46.920
on, came up doing really well
and well that one traveling. How much

615
00:39:46.960 --> 00:39:51.800
do you think this is a product
of Arizona playing in a crummy league and

616
00:39:51.920 --> 00:39:54.960
Clemson their finished sixth or so in
the a CC, so nobody thinks they're

617
00:39:55.039 --> 00:40:00.880
very good. And you know,
I looked it up today, the last

618
00:40:00.920 --> 00:40:06.280
eighty sixth verse in the Elite eight
the PAC twelve has had four. No.

619
00:40:06.480 --> 00:40:08.559
I mean that could be a factor
because it was a crummy league.

620
00:40:08.639 --> 00:40:12.199
It wasn't rummy league, so you
really don't know how good you are,

621
00:40:12.280 --> 00:40:15.840
right, and Arizona we didn't know. I mean I kind of said earlier

622
00:40:15.039 --> 00:40:19.159
they're vulnerable to a good team,
and they were vulnerable to a bad team.

623
00:40:19.519 --> 00:40:22.840
So how good were they? I
think there were There were at least

624
00:40:22.840 --> 00:40:25.000
twelve to fifteen U of A teams
better than this one, if you go,

625
00:40:27.400 --> 00:40:29.800
yeah, when you were on the
show last time we talked about that

626
00:40:29.880 --> 00:40:34.880
number. I think maybe yeah,
a few of US Sean Millers and a

627
00:40:34.880 --> 00:40:39.599
lot of loud Olsen's better. Yet
they were talented enough. I think they

628
00:40:39.599 --> 00:40:45.719
were talented enough. Weren't they?
Or were we mistaken? I thought they

629
00:40:45.760 --> 00:40:51.840
were enough, but they just didn't
show it all the time they were there.

630
00:40:51.880 --> 00:40:54.000
Weren't no reason, right, you
think that Timmy would get them off?

631
00:40:54.039 --> 00:40:58.599
And and that's on the kids too. It just didn't happen for whatever

632
00:40:58.679 --> 00:41:01.119
reason. What about in the coming
years in the Big twelve Arizona, my

633
00:41:01.599 --> 00:41:06.480
I mean Clemson eleven or nine?
Right, what if Arizona goes twelve and

634
00:41:06.559 --> 00:41:09.639
eight next year in the Big twelve, it is a better team. It

635
00:41:09.719 --> 00:41:16.760
could be that just very well happened. Arizona is gonna go looney to you

636
00:41:16.960 --> 00:41:22.039
used to well they did last night
and I jumped in there and I couldn't

637
00:41:22.039 --> 00:41:28.159
help myself, Steve, I'm disappointed
in myself, had engaging all the all

638
00:41:28.159 --> 00:41:35.000
the trolls out there. I did. I did well. Almost immediately there

639
00:41:35.039 --> 00:41:38.920
was a hashtag fire Tommy on somebody's
tweet, and I called I told that

640
00:41:38.920 --> 00:41:45.239
guy he was stupid. And then
somebody else who's got one of you know,

641
00:41:45.280 --> 00:41:50.119
some u of a labeled uh uh
you know twitter feed called him mediocre

642
00:41:50.639 --> 00:41:53.559
that didn't know, said the program
is mediocre. And I'm like, go

643
00:41:53.679 --> 00:41:57.800
look up mediocre in the dictionary and
and you know, learn a thing or

644
00:41:57.800 --> 00:42:00.880
two. And then I finally finished
it off saying, for all those people

645
00:42:00.880 --> 00:42:05.920
who are you know, bashing Tommy, go back here your mom's basement and

646
00:42:06.039 --> 00:42:09.679
just open another bag of Cheetos and
shut the hell up. And so it

647
00:42:09.840 --> 00:42:14.440
wasn't a good food. And then
and then I then I wouldn't take my

648
00:42:14.480 --> 00:42:20.320
brother's call. So it's a good
thing. This wasn't a game that knocked

649
00:42:20.320 --> 00:42:24.920
Arizona of the Rose. Oh god, yeah, beat down. And I'll

650
00:42:24.960 --> 00:42:29.360
ask Brian this day later, did
you really think this team had it to

651
00:42:29.360 --> 00:42:31.039
get to the final four? And
I think, in in all honesty,

652
00:42:31.400 --> 00:42:34.960
I had him going to the final
four. And I don't know why,

653
00:42:35.000 --> 00:42:37.400
because maybe I bought into it was
the easiest road to get there. And

654
00:42:37.440 --> 00:42:42.800
they still kind of messed out.
I was thinking they could. I kept

655
00:42:42.840 --> 00:42:45.599
thinking they could, and I still
think they could have. But I also

656
00:42:45.639 --> 00:42:49.360
thought, you know, if you
play crappy, which they did, you're

657
00:42:49.400 --> 00:42:52.840
going to lose. And they did, right, And so yeah, I

658
00:42:52.840 --> 00:42:55.920
think they had the talent for sure, and they played some game. They

659
00:42:55.960 --> 00:43:00.199
played some Final Four quality games during
the year, So yes, I thought

660
00:43:00.239 --> 00:43:04.320
they could. And the only team
that I didn't think they could beat,

661
00:43:04.360 --> 00:43:07.280
well, there's two now that I
didn't think they could beat, where Yukon

662
00:43:07.360 --> 00:43:10.480
and Produce. But I thought they
could beat everybody else. But I thought

663
00:43:10.840 --> 00:43:15.480
everybody else could beat them. I
thought the Duke game. I thought the

664
00:43:15.559 --> 00:43:20.239
Duke game skewed perceptions coming into the
year. Once they beat Duke, was

665
00:43:20.280 --> 00:43:24.039
like, oh, Arizona's going to
do it, and Duke was really good

666
00:43:24.039 --> 00:43:30.920
but not elite. That stuck with
me for two months that you bet Duke

667
00:43:30.920 --> 00:43:32.760
and Duke you're going to go to
the Final Four. Yeah. Well,

668
00:43:32.800 --> 00:43:37.320
so let me let me ask Greg, where do you think that this rank

669
00:43:37.800 --> 00:43:42.679
the postseason clunkers? Not even close
to the worst, not even close.

670
00:43:43.519 --> 00:43:47.280
I mean East Tennessee State, Santa
Clara, Miami, Buffalo, Wichita State,

671
00:43:49.960 --> 00:43:52.360
UTIP yeah, I mean get in
line. Yeah, yeah, there's

672
00:43:52.360 --> 00:43:58.199
a whole bunch of them. Yeah, yeah, there are a bunch of

673
00:43:59.639 --> 00:44:04.159
right, yeah, there are.
It's a Sweet sixteen loss. And that's

674
00:44:04.159 --> 00:44:07.519
what that's what gets me about this
is that there's so many fans out there

675
00:44:07.519 --> 00:44:13.639
who feel Arizona should never lose in
the Sweet sixteen. I'm like, the

676
00:44:13.639 --> 00:44:19.559
Sweet sixteen is damn hard. That's
where again, maybe two weeks I think

677
00:44:19.559 --> 00:44:22.920
even Gregory asked what would disappoint a
fan base if they didn't get to what?

678
00:44:23.400 --> 00:44:27.599
And it was dbed eight? Right, yeah, yeah, because that's

679
00:44:27.639 --> 00:44:32.320
become so elusive. Well yeah,
and now that's almost the carrot for Arizona

680
00:44:32.679 --> 00:44:36.440
after all these years off the final
four. Just get to the Elite eight

681
00:44:36.440 --> 00:44:38.519
and we'll see what happened, right, and take your shot there the morning

682
00:44:38.559 --> 00:44:43.599
after the morning after Arizona lost to
Illinois in two thousand and five, if

683
00:44:43.639 --> 00:44:46.800
someone told you twenty twenty four,
Arizona still won't go to the Final four,

684
00:44:46.840 --> 00:44:51.920
you would have left. I would
have said, no way, there's

685
00:44:51.960 --> 00:44:55.000
not a way. Yeah yeah,
So what now, Steve, what do

686
00:44:55.039 --> 00:44:59.920
you think? Uh? You know, they here, you know the where

687
00:45:00.079 --> 00:45:02.760
where do they go from? Here? Does Tommy change anything there is.

688
00:45:04.360 --> 00:45:06.840
He he is who he is.
I mean, what do you what do

689
00:45:06.920 --> 00:45:09.800
you think? Because that's the other
people. Tommy's got to do something different.

690
00:45:09.880 --> 00:45:14.599
I'm like, what different? No, he is who he is.

691
00:45:14.639 --> 00:45:16.920
He'll feel continue to do what he
does. He feels he's on the verge

692
00:45:16.920 --> 00:45:21.519
of breakthrough. In fact, he
kind of mentioned it to me a while

693
00:45:21.559 --> 00:45:24.079
back. Uh, they're like Gonzaga
had a hard time getting to that.

694
00:45:24.679 --> 00:45:28.679
He'll do the same thing here.
I think the personnel will change. I

695
00:45:28.679 --> 00:45:30.840
think there'll be a couple of people
that leave, Like everywhere else, they

696
00:45:30.920 --> 00:45:37.679
leave. Yeah, and then we'll
see how the nil goes. But who's

697
00:45:37.679 --> 00:45:39.599
going to step up now? And
who's they need? A shooter? They

698
00:45:39.679 --> 00:45:43.559
shoot? They had a shooter and
they didn't have one. They thought they

699
00:45:43.559 --> 00:45:45.800
had one. Well they did have
one. And he I mean, did

700
00:45:45.840 --> 00:45:49.400
you see that? There was a
stat by Michael lev said he shot like

701
00:45:49.840 --> 00:45:52.519
in the last six games, in
his last six game, he shot like

702
00:45:52.559 --> 00:45:57.360
twenty eight percent or something like that, right right last Later last year,

703
00:45:57.440 --> 00:46:00.119
late in the season, he went
all for six from three against Duke and

704
00:46:00.199 --> 00:46:04.960
over seven from three against Louisville.
Did you just run out of gas?

705
00:46:05.760 --> 00:46:07.639
But I was. When I looked
that up today, I went, Wow,

706
00:46:07.719 --> 00:46:10.480
he did the same thing last year
at the end and then elimination.

707
00:46:12.519 --> 00:46:16.400
Didn't you find it ironic that the
North Carolina kid went to the same numbers

708
00:46:16.440 --> 00:46:23.039
last night? Yeah? I saw
that. Yeah. And when North Carolina

709
00:46:23.079 --> 00:46:28.239
was eliminated in twenty two by Kansas, he was one for eight. Yeah.

710
00:46:28.679 --> 00:46:30.480
I mean he was big, he
had he was built for the big

711
00:46:30.559 --> 00:46:34.239
moments, and then when it came, it didn't happen. Yeah. Yeah,

712
00:46:35.440 --> 00:46:37.920
Uh, well here we are,
Steve, you know, doing it

713
00:46:37.039 --> 00:46:42.480
again. I wore my Dodger shirt
today to kind of to kind of rub

714
00:46:42.559 --> 00:46:46.639
everything off. Uh, you know, we'll talk more about it Monday.

715
00:46:49.119 --> 00:46:52.320
Yeah. They should have driven the
Dodger stadium and touched Oi's back. It's

716
00:46:52.440 --> 00:46:57.280
something like that, Steve. You
know I would have I would have chased

717
00:46:57.320 --> 00:47:05.079
some jacket. Go go go kiss
the Vince Scully statue or something right or

718
00:47:05.199 --> 00:47:08.679
Jackie right, anything, you know
something. But you made a good point

719
00:47:08.719 --> 00:47:13.079
to l A has been tough on
Arizona. The LA area has been tough

720
00:47:13.159 --> 00:47:19.280
on Arizona. Yeah, he's gonna
call it Monday, apologize. Imagine the

721
00:47:19.360 --> 00:47:25.400
crowded Tomorrow's game they're all back.
Yeah, yeah, they wudn't have four

722
00:47:25.440 --> 00:47:32.519
thousand fans everywhere exactly, exactly,
all right, Steve hey Man, thanks

723
00:47:32.559 --> 00:47:36.880
a bunch, head back and get
back here on Monday. We'll see you,

724
00:47:37.360 --> 00:47:43.039
Thanks Steve Rivera. So his travels
are over. Well, we're book

725
00:47:43.039 --> 00:47:45.519
going. We're book going to go
the final four. I'm working. I'm

726
00:47:45.559 --> 00:47:47.880
working it. Anything, he's gonna
go cover it still, So we'll be

727
00:47:47.920 --> 00:47:51.960
out next week for part of it. But uh, you know, I

728
00:47:52.000 --> 00:47:54.559
mean there's not there's not a you
know, we're gonna have Matt Muleboch come

729
00:47:54.599 --> 00:47:57.639
in. He'll tell us what,
you know, what he thinks. Scott

730
00:47:57.679 --> 00:48:00.559
Thompson will be joining us here in
a little bit. We'll get his thoughts

731
00:48:00.599 --> 00:48:02.039
on that. But you know,
I kind of want to hear their thoughts

732
00:48:02.079 --> 00:48:08.400
because I would rather hear theirs than
what what what I'm hearing out there,

733
00:48:08.440 --> 00:48:13.519
because it's I was so angry last
night and I wasn't I was at it

734
00:48:13.599 --> 00:48:15.440
at the loss. I mean,
I was upset at thoughts. I was

735
00:48:15.480 --> 00:48:20.400
frustrating for the loss, but then
just watching what our fans do and how

736
00:48:20.440 --> 00:48:25.159
they just eat each other alive and
and eat the program alive. And just

737
00:48:25.760 --> 00:48:29.519
they lose their minds. And I
get it, it's it's where we are

738
00:48:29.599 --> 00:48:32.840
today. But I couldn't help myself
last night and I engage these guys and

739
00:48:32.880 --> 00:48:36.760
I wish I hadn't, but I
did, and I did feel better at

740
00:48:36.800 --> 00:48:40.480
the end of the day. I
felt like I felt like I had done

741
00:48:40.519 --> 00:48:44.719
my piece, for my part,
for you know, for for for the

742
00:48:45.159 --> 00:48:50.320
program. So we'll see, all
right, you know we you know,

743
00:48:50.360 --> 00:48:52.679
well, we'll kick this around some
more. But in the end, you

744
00:48:52.760 --> 00:48:54.880
know, this was a lot like
all the other ones. Don't you think

745
00:48:55.519 --> 00:48:58.800
we've seen them all? And we've
been to a bunch of them. You've

746
00:48:58.800 --> 00:49:00.519
seen as many of them as I
have, right, everyone, Yeah,

747
00:49:00.599 --> 00:49:06.079
yesterday was the first. Yeah,
and uh, and none of them are

748
00:49:06.199 --> 00:49:10.480
easier to take than the others,
you know. And what we did walking

749
00:49:10.519 --> 00:49:14.599
into the locker room after all those
losses, Yeah, that was the reason

750
00:49:14.639 --> 00:49:19.559
why we're no longer working in the
newspapers exactly. Those things were hard.

751
00:49:19.800 --> 00:49:22.440
You mentioned the you know, walking
into the locker room after the eighty nine

752
00:49:22.519 --> 00:49:25.599
loss to a unld and the players
are just in their sobbing and it was

753
00:49:25.679 --> 00:49:29.800
like one of the hardest things ever
see these guys still in their uniforms and

754
00:49:29.840 --> 00:49:34.960
stuff, and they're just you know, I remember twenty fifteen TJ McConnell was

755
00:49:35.039 --> 00:49:38.119
crying, yeah, and he didn't
even play. Yeah. So yeah,

756
00:49:38.639 --> 00:49:44.079
it's those things are those things are
tough, but it's sports man, it's

757
00:49:44.119 --> 00:49:46.320
sports, and it's what it's you
know. We I mean, we love

758
00:49:46.400 --> 00:49:50.239
it for this, but we hated
for this, I think is what it

759
00:49:50.360 --> 00:49:52.679
is. So all right, we're
gonna come back. Adam's got some breaking

760
00:49:52.760 --> 00:49:57.159
news for us coming up, and
we'll This is gonna be the only segment

761
00:49:57.239 --> 00:49:59.079
we can take your call. So
if you want to give us a call,

762
00:49:59.159 --> 00:50:01.559
if you want to try in on
on on what we saw and what

763
00:50:01.679 --> 00:50:06.000
are the cats are, it'll be
in this next segment after the breaks.

764
00:50:06.000 --> 00:50:07.280
So give us a called. Five
two zero, four, one, six,

765
00:50:07.360 --> 00:50:08.800
seventy four forty we'll be right back