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At at. Tonight's special Christmas episode
is a continuation from last week's show where

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Keith came on and told us about
several of us dog unrelated experiences, but

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unfortunately we ran out of time,
so on tonight's show he's going to finish

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sharing his experiences with us. Thanks
so much for coming back to listen to

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him do that, and Merry Christmas. This is on a side note,

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koodles do I think her name was
Kim. She was talking about Ember having

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more of a childish or adolescent style
dog man or dog woman at this point,

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and that's what I'm gonna say.
This probably was. This thing was

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small, and this was a little
braver than the other ones. This one

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came up closer and it was again
behind a pine tree, and I couldn't

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quite see it. I could make
out the ciluette full body, but it

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had squatted down. I'm gonna say
she because I'll get to it, but

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I'm gonna say it was a she
because of what I'll tell you here in

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a minute. I got probably within
maybe eight feet six to eight feet of

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this thing, and it was scrouched
down. It probably wasn't any taller than

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maybe four and a half feet four
to four and a half feet tall.

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Was small, wasn't big or stocky
or anything like that. It's just small.

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And this is one of the few
times where I really got like,

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oh, heck no, I gotta
back away from this thing. This thing

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did like you would see in a
horror movie. And we'll bring up horror

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movies again. It was one hand
came out to the side, another hand

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came out to the same side,
just below it, and then it peaked

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its head out and again low light. I couldn't tell you the color,

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no eyeshine, nothing like that.
This thing, man, I I'm ninety

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percent certain it wasn't mind speak,
was not mine speak. I'm ninety percent

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certain. But this girl, female
sounding critter said, I don't remember if

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it said come closer or come here. Yeah, no, either way,

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I'll take c none of the above. And I backed out at that place.

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I actually had I had left at
that point afterwards. Yeah, I

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didn't. I didn't want to play
those games. And again that was that

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was of four January of I'm sorry, July of four didn't really hear too

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much anymore. Obviously, I'm not
going to go back out there and hang

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out in that area where that cabin
is, because you never know there could

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be someone else down there. I
don't want up, you know, intrude

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on anybody. December of four was
the next time that ran across something but

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didn't see it. That's that's a
good way to put it dead. It's

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where I saw tracks and I'll get
to it. Same road. There's like

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s Turns third Road. On the
north side of the road, it's like

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up in the embankment pith two and
a half three feet and then it's the

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taller grass, some trails going through
it. I think that's where hunters go.

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And then it goes into the thick
pines again south side of the road,

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I say north side anyway, south
side of the road it's a swamp,

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so you kind of s turned through
it or whatever. And again the

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girl that was with at that time, she had gotten a phone call from

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one of her friends and she was
on that road and scared would be an

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understatement, a very gross understatement.
There was terror in this girl's voice.

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I'm on one side of the room
and she's on the other talking to her,

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and I can hear her. She's
screaming and she's saying stuff. There

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are some adult words, so we'll
leave those out. But oh my god,

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leave, just leave, just leave, leave me alone. And she's

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saying this, but you could hear
the horn on her car, and her

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horn was dying. But she told
us where she was at. And she's

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saying, my car is dying,
is dead or whatever, and I have

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there's something black in front of me, laying in the middle of the road

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and it won't leave. And uh
oh, so we took off. I

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already know the kind of what we're
running into. We took off down there,

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and she was facing westbound, and
so I pulled up in front of

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her. So I'm facing eastbound and
I get out of the vehicle. I'm

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looking around. I don't see anything, you know. Unfortunately I didn't have

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a flashlight. But this is wintertime. It's bright outside at night, you

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know, a folder tight moon,
so everything's basically glowing except the woods,

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and I don't see anything. I'm
looking around, I don't see anything.

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She's saying it was laying right here. I didn't see anything, So I'm

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just going by what she said.
But anyway, we're checking. Didn't see

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anything. I ended up getting her
or her car jumped. It just took

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a couple of minutes. It wasn't
a long time, and everything was good.

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Got her up and going again,
and I went back to my trunk

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to throw the jumper cables in,
and I noticed something. They were almost

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like on the embankment, which there
wasn't before I started this issue with getting

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out of the vehicle and checking there
wasn't anything there. At that time,

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something had slid down the embankment just
behind my car. I didn't see anything,

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didn't hear anything. Big thing that
you get with people talking about sasquatch

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and the critters are smell nothing.
And when I'm looking for this, I'm

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looking even as much as even detail
of something breathing where it's you know,

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it would cast a fog type out
of its mouth or something from hitting a

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colder. I didn't see anything,
however, in the road. Now this

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was roughly a fresh snow. It
wasn't plowed or tore up by car,

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so there was actually untouched snow in
the road. There were just a couple

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of footprints or paw prints, if
you will, that weren't there when I

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started this whole situation, and I
looked at them and they were clearly large

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canine prints, and you know,
it didn't have like a heel or anything

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like that. You know it's you
know, half man half wolf type nonsense

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or anything like that. It didn't
have that. It had very large dog

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paw prints and it was just a
couple front back. To me, it

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looked like it was it was the
fronts, but that was it, and

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in a direction that was going.
It was going down into that swamp.

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And at that point we just kind
of got out of there and we're like,

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whoa crazy? You know, that
was close, I mean, especially

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for something like that, And I
think that was pretty much it for that

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time. And again a couple of
years had passed. Now, oh,

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I'm sorry, I did have one
issue. And this was again back around

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that same time, in December of
four my girl and I she had had

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a friend that had passed away whatever
circumstances, it's irrelevant to this, but

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you know, as a younger girl
had passed away and she was buried in

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the town south of where we're seeing
all this stuff, and where she lived

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was where my one buddy did there, just across the street of the main

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night I spoke about earlier, we
had gone to the graveyard and it's it's

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one of them things cruising around at
night. She wanted to go say hi.

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So we found her grave site and
brushed it off, clean it up,

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and you know, she did a
little talking and everything like that.

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No big deal, you know,
it is what it is. Out of

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nowhere, I get that feeling again, I'd mentioned with the inside, almost

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like that freeze motion with the cats
or the sasquatch. That frequency, the

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weird frequency, if anything. We
get that again. And and this is

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where a little bit of the almost
a paranormal kind of gets intertwined with some

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of this stuff. And behind me
there was a girl's voice, a teenage

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girl's voice, and yes, this
unfortunately this was a teenage female that had

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passed a teenage girl's voice said run, they're coming, and it was that

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clear, but it was panicked and
the girl I was and we looked each

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other like did you just hear that? And both of us I could tell

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I turned pale. I know she
did. She did as well. And

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just a couple of seconds later we
heard something to start howling, and it

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was further south of us, and
it startled us and we're like, oh,

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heck, no, we're not sticking
around for this and it was just

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one sound. But as we were
going from the grave site to the vehicle,

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more and more started and we took
off. We got back to our

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house and you're talking travel wise,
probably seven seven to ten minutes if that.

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We're out on the front portion.
We're talking about what we just went

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through. Then all of a sudden
you started hearing them more. And then

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in this park area where that ranger
station is at, that's where I could

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guess where the stuff was coming at. You could hear them starting to pipe

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up. Now, if it was
anything, it wasn't dog man. I

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mean, those sounds a little different. This is These I think were Kyos,

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and I think what they In fact, I'm sure these were Kyles,

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and I think what they were doing. They were either the ones from the

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south were either north tracking a deer
or you know, game, we'll say

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game of some sort. But they
were converging on the spot that's inside that

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park and you heard them. You
heard the yiping and the hollering and everything

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else that the Kyots do. And
then like, oh wow, that was

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a Kyle's man, they must be
tearing something up, and yeah, like

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they're frenzy, like they're they're they're
frenzy feeding frenzy, if you will,

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now they get kind of crazy.
And then came another howl that was not

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them, and distance from just to
give you a distance perspective, if it

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was a quarter mile, that would
probably be a long shot. Distance between

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the house and this park is not
far at all. And anyway, there

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was this howl and it only happened
twice, and the only way I can

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explain it, I'm a fan of
different music, We'll say that. And

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the initial beginning to the howl was
very basy and guttural. If you people

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listen to like the hardcore death metal
where they got that, it was like

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that, and it was almost even
at that distance you could feel it.

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It was really strange. It was
I don't know if it was kicking out

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that frequency again or what. I
don't know. And then it went more

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into a still a higher pitch,
but it was still had that death metal

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sound, very loud and way too
long for it to be a human.

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And you heard the coyotes. They
were piping up and doing everything and doing

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what they do. And then one
last howl, the second howl of this

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basic death metal beast, I'll call
it you heard it, but it was

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more how'd you put it, authoritative
that, Yeah, it was. It

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was commanding. It was very like, Hey, I'm ruling this joint and

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this is the way it's going to
be. And after it stopped, the

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coyotes went quiet. It was almost
instant. I mean, it's like you

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hear the things of people being out
in the woods, there's all the noise

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of the wildlife. Than when these
one of these critives come around, when

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the cryptids come around, everything gets
quiet. Yeah, it was like that,

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and then that was it. I
didn't go out to look even the

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next day, didn't go out to
look, didn't really do anything else after

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that. And then for a couple
of years things were fairly quiet. I

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mean, nothing really crazy happened.
And now that family that I had mentioned,

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they had moved and it was just
basically further down the street but closer

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to that part. Nothing crazy.
You'd still hear stuff in the woods walking

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through two feet silhouettes maybe of something, and then you had those on occasion

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you would look out the front window
and you'd have those sky blue topa's eyes

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again kind of looking and you know, it wasn't anything stationary because it would

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blink and it's kind of move side
the side. I duck a little bit

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and then they'll just walk away.
We didn't mess with them. They didn't

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mess with us. They didn't come
into the yard or anything like that.

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Yeah, that was it. And
that went on from say, i'd say

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about two thousand and six, and
I think they had left. I think

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they had moved again. I mean
it's like twenty thirteen, twenty fourteen,

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haven't been back since. Another issue
that I had. I don't want to

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sound too freaky, but you know
another girl that I had. It was

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a second wife. This was in
twenty thirteen and only one incident. And

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there's a metro park out by where
I'm at, one that I'd mentioned first

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earlier with the fire department. And
then this one is another park. It's

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a metro park system that we have
here in Michigan. And again this was

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a small one. I think it
was fall of twenty thirteen. My wife

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and I were just walking down one
of these back trails won that's a little

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traveled. The park. I think
it divides Oakland and Livingston County. I

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think the south end of it.
But anyway, we're walking through this trail

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and out of the corner of mine, it's about fifty yards. It's daytime

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still, it's I don't even know
if it was like four o'clock or so

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in the afternoon. I caught something
running and I thought it was a person

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to begin with, because again this
was small, and it kind of started

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me like, what in the world
are you doing? Is running through the

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woods like that? But as I
noticed it a little more, and before

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it got to this largest tree,
I don't know if it was like an

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oak or maple. I suck at
trees, but it had ran to this

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tree and it's about fifty yards away, like that had hair. And I

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went over to this thing. I'm
like, hold on, sit tight for

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a second. And I walked up
to it. The only way that could

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say it. I walked up to
this and this was hiding behind this tree

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and all this tree easy three feet
in diameter. I mean, it's it's

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an old tree. And the only
thing that I saw its shoulders. I

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saw its right shoulder and its right
arm, right hand, and claws that

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were they were dark claws. They
were proportionate to the body to you know,

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to the fingers or whatever. But
they weren't long like how you see

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some people get crazy with their long
fingernails. It wasn't like that long,

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but they were proportionate. It had
a darker almost like an auburn, like

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a dark auburn color, maybe a
couple shades darker than a what's that dog?

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Like an Irish center. And I
got probably if I would have taken

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another step, I probably could have
reached out and touched it. I mean,

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so you're talking probably within five or
six feet of this thing, and

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it was short, you know this, This was under five feet and underbuild.

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I didn't see any muscle build or
anything like that, but I could

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hear it. And this thing it
had a fast pint to it. But

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I got that again. There's like
a deep I don't know if you want

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to call it spiritual or not,
but there is almost like a empathy.

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I think that is where you can
feel something a person's emotions or something like

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that. I just had that feeling
that this thing was it was scared.

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I mean the way that it was
it had us back to the tree.

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I didn't see ahead. Its head
was turned to the left, and the

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way it was pugging the tree for
the most part fast paced breathing, and

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it was scared. And at that
point, I'm like, man, I

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felt like I felt like a button. You know, it's you know,

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for being listener friendly. Yeah,
that's that's how I felt. I felt

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bad. I really did. I
felt compassion and I had a four five

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on my side. I could have
handled it if I, you know,

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needed to, But why stupid.
I just I felt this compassion and I

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just said, hey, I'm sorry, I'm not going to hurt you.

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You're okay. And I was really
calm with it. It's like you're trying

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to talk somebody down. And as
I was doing it, it's breathing kind

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of went down. But I'm like, I'm going to leave now, you're

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okay, You're all right. And
I just said that as I backed up

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a little bit a few steps,
I turned around and got back on the

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trail to the wife, and uh, that was it. I left it

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alone. And no, did I
keep an eye on it. No,

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No, I just I made a
conscious effort to not look at it,

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just in case this thing was looking
at me. Leaving, I just I

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didn't want it to be any more
afraid and to some of the other people

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that put on there. I think
it was. I think it was Kai.

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Maybe it's talked about or was it
Kim. I don't I'm sorry for

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both of that, But I never
once thought of mom and Dad were around,

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never once crossed my train of thought
there, And nor did I ever

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even consider getting a picture or taking
a video or anything like that in that

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moment. I don't think, really
you think about that type of stuff.

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I mean, there's a couple of
things that would maybe go through my head.

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Is how to put it if you
had the time. You got to

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pay attention to what you're dealing with. And this is kind of a side

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note commentary here. It's almost like
you have to pay attention and be involved

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with what you're dealing with right now, not oh, I need to get

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my phone and take a picture.
No, no, that's not how this

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works. And you know, and
unfortunately, and I don't want to bad

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talk people that hurry up and get
their phone out or anything like that and

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take the videos or pictures of either
dogmen or sasquat or whatever. But one,

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if you're out there walking around in
the woods and you got your video

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camera going or something like that,
you're expecting to see something or you're out

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there with your camera running and you're
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That's a good way to put it. So that's how I feel about

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that stuff now. Further on,
and I don't know if I put a

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date to that, I think that
was like twenty thirteen. Sorry, later

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on personal second marriage didn't work,
but I'm now with a good girl side

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note beautiful wife now. Now was
both of our turns, and again this

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is on them same backside roads that
I've run across a lot of these things

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with. We're just driving back road, and this was twenty eighteen. I

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believe this was either late fall or
early early winter twenty eighteen. Crazy enough,

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in the same spot where the girl
had the issue with the car breaking

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down and going out to the same
exact spot, and we're just driving around

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bs and we're talking, our talking
our things that you know, husband and

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wife do or whatever, and out
of the corner of her eye up on

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that embankment, so it had been
westbound. This is on the north side

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of this street, up on the
embankment. We're doing probably thirty and for

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a couple hundred feet or so,
there was something just on top of the

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embankment that this was black. I
know that this was black because I kind

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of looked to and saw it.
It was running with us, didn't attack,

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didn't jump in front of us,
didn't yell and scream again, didn't

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smell anything. And after it got
to a point where it started getting out

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of the s turns, it just
started back off into the taller pines and

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that was it. Now one other
time that I had had and this is

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back by that Ranger station in twenty
nineteen. I think this was getting into

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summertime, so I'm going to say
it was probably late June, early July,

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so it wasn't crazy hot yet.
I'm out there by this Ranger station,

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and this is where that Red Dawn
movie is going to tie back into

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as well. And it just gives
you kind of a visual with what I'm

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dealing with. I walk out there
and it's just myself. I go out

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there and at that Ranger station to
the west of it, they have like

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a little pavilion area. I had
to use the bathroom or whatever, and

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I come out of the bathroom and
I'm looking and out of it would be

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a little further west, a little
further south. It's all mode and then

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it goes down a significant size hill
down into like a side trail in a

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swamp. This was weird. I
saw. I don't know if I saw

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at top of the head or not. I don't think I did. I

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know I saw from the elbows up
and this headlong hair. Again, you

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can refer back to the ozy Osbourne
Park at the moon thing, but this

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was blonde. And now I say
blonde, imagine the hair of like a

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golden retriever. It was about that
color. I could see long enough claws,

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big enough hands, whatever this was. It was pretty huge. Being

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at the drop off. Again,
this was probably if this thing six and

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a half feet tall maybe, But
what it was doing, it was flailing

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its hands around and I'm like,
what in the world is this thing doing?

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And it was running back side to
side from how I was positioned.

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And I had walked along just on
the outskirts of this woodline off to my

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left, and I got to a
spot that was kind of a clearing going

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down in these woods. Keep in
mind, these are the pine trees where

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they they're kind of they must have
been planted that are kind of rows.

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And I kind of got to this
clearing and almost instinct went into my head.

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It was like, wait a minute, this is a distraction, and

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sure enough it was. I turned
my head quick and as I did that,

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there was a black dog man.
Now what did I see that?

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It ducked fairly quick. Now this
is probably one hundred feet back in the

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woods or so. I wouldn't say
any further than that. I saw shoulders

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at one point, arms and hands
at one point, but for the most

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part its head, its head.
It was like a round, fat head.

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I mean, it wasn't the it
was that German shepherd's style or whatever.

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This is more roundish, like it'd
be like a rottweiler or whatever.

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This was. It was all black
and I saw most of its head and

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it was kind of ducking down behind
a log. I'm sorry, not a

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log, a tree stump. It
wasn't as big as a tree stump.

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It was just kind of squatting down
behind it. And for reference, we're

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gonna go back real quick to that
movie The Red Dawn. If you watch

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the cabin scene where the two dads
are talking with the bad guys on the

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PA system and there's the kids are
they're kind of hunkered down behind a log,

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yeah, go about seventy five eighty
feet behind them, one hundred at

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max. And it was right there
when they shot that movie. They're in

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a hotspot for that and them people
didn't even realize it. But I'm looking

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at this thing and me being me, I'm like, hey, it's kind

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of way. I'm like, yeah, I see, you're good. Don't

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worry about it. Nothing big.
And it's kind of you know, like

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a dog. Would you know,
you speak goofy to a dog, it

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kind of turns its head. It
did that, and I sat there for

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a couple of minutes and watched it
like all right, I'm out that is

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kind of waved at it and turned
around and walked away, turned my back

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to it. I mean, so
that's how much of a you know,

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I must be an anomaly with this
stuff, because a lot of times I

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don't get anything. It's threatening,
e worked. But other than that,

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there hasn't been anything. Until talking
to the wife. She had seen something

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here at where we live now,
the center of Oakland County, A good

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way to say it, And this
was back in was it last year?

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No, that's pre COVID, I
don't remember. No, it's is twenty

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I don't remember. I'm sorry,
I don't remember. It's been within a

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couple of years ago, I think, but it was no, it was

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last year. My bad, sorry
about that. This was last year.

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All time, leaves have fallen.
The wife is getting ready to go to

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work and she leaves quarter after eight, eight thirty in the morning or cell

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and she's walking out through her vehicle
and between our driveway and the side road

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that goes along and says, it's
heave, it's populated. There was a

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wolf. This was on all fours
and she had made mention it to me.

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Between my driveway and the street that
I'm on is maybe I think our

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property is thirty feet that part is
like thirty feet, yeah, I think

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so. But anyway, she said
to hers a very large black dog.

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Didn't really get into specifics other than
it was very long and tall, and

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my wife's she's like five to seven
and this thing's head came up to her

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shoulders not too far away from it. I mean, she was with it

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herself, probably twenty feet away from
it. And this is I think this

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is part of that spiritual things because
what she said, it did it looked

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at her and there was a sense
of calm that came over her like it

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was almost like a calm of your
being protected. And it just took a

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few steps and just faded away.
That's the only thing that it did.

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Now as far as the dog Man
stuff, that's pretty much it. But

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I do want to go back a
little bit to that Ranger station. And

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this is kind of a side note. This is I think where the Dogmen

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and the paranormal cross pass. Now
this area is heavyly line area. I've

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seen a lot of stuff that would
be more for the My Paranormal Experience podcast.

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But anyway, I had gotten into
some issues. I had to do

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some forced to volunteering, if you
want to call it that. And this

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was back in two thousand and four. Coming back to this, I was

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doing my community service. Everything was
all hunky dory, and I was talking

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to the lady that was overseeing me, and she's asking where I was living

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and what I was doing and everything
like that, and I told her and

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I had made mention of something I
think I had mentioned actually that Ranger station.

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Didn't say anything about the critters,
didn't say anything strange, but she's

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like, oh yeah, She's like, I know that place very well and

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this lady. For the record,
she was a wicked pagan, so that's

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the faith that she has. By
myself Christian. But she brought up this

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thing, and my buddy had mentioned
it too, the one I had went

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slanting with, and neither one of
these people know each other, but she

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had said, oh, yeah,
there's a something went on in that that

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ranger station and it man trying to
be listener friendly. Some people did some

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bad stuff to animals and it involved
a board. That's a yeah, that's

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a way to put it. Sorry, almost got choked up. But they

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did some bad stuff and opened something
up in that house and whatever it is

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that it was, I don't know
if it's still there or not, I

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don't know. But these kids,
she actually knew who the kids were,

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so late nineties that's when this happened, early two thousand and whatever it is

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they opened up, they let this
thing out, and again she knew these

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people and what they experienced was on
a bad side. But anyway, getting

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back to where I see some connection
here the dog men, this is how

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I believe it. My buddy believes
it the same way, is that the

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dog men surround that area and they
do not let whatever it is in that

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house out they're protectors. At that
point. It was kind of the same

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thing here with the wife with this
big, this large black wolf thing,

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and yes it looked like a wolf, not a dog man. But I

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think they look out for us when
we go out there. Of course,

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you know, when we go we
go out there, everything is respectful,

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go back to the Native American roots
or whatever. That's how it was treated.

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But I am fully convinced that these
things protect us from whatever is in

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that house. They keep people away
from it. I mean, of course,

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you know, you're going to have
your typical village idiot that wants to

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go mess around and trespass, but
well it's a Darwin thing. We'll leave

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it at that. But you know, to me, with a lot of

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the bad experiences, I haven't had
any, and they are with what's going

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on at that house, I can't
get over. It's something that you don't

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normally hear of, at least I
haven't. And you know, I've only

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been watching these podcasts for probably a
year or so, so there could be

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tons of other stories. I don't
know, But other than that, it's

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I've had no bad experiences, thank
god. You know, maybe I'm blessed

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by God, or I got you
know, archangel Michael standing behind me.

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When these things come out and play, I don't know, but I've had

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decent experiences with them. My buddy, he one it got thumped a little

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bit. He wasn't Native American.
He was the here. I'm gonna go

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out there with a knife and an
axe and see what I can stir up.

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But other than that, that's pretty
much it with my experiences going from

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childhood to now now. Last week, unfortunately, I had a I don't

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know what that was, maybe a
skinwalker thing in a yard. I sent

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the pictures of the height of where
this thing was. But other than that,

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that's pretty much it. One last
thing regards to the different styles I

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have seen, I know there's different
types. I don't get into that too

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much. I don't. I don't
really follow that. You know, a

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lot of it is your typical dog
rear end, human ish type front end

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for the most part. Yes,
For the one that was standing by the

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tree, I had a couple instances. One I didn't mention, but but

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it is what it is. The
one that was standing by the tree that

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had human type legs. But other
than that, the rest of them were

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your human business end and dog like
reer end. So yeah, Vic,

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that's about what I got there for
you. Nothing too crazy, like I

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said, the either one to go
or a skin walker thing that I had

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to deal with here. That was
I think I dated that. I had

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talked to my aunt on that.
That was either on the fourteenth or the

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fifteenth of this month. But the
typical long, lenky body. It had

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fur on it. It was gray. Give an idea, check out a

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deer's antlers when they got the velvet
on it. That's what kind of what

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it looked like. The only thing
that was weird shoulders. I have a

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spot or a light up in the
tree. I measured it yesterday. I

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think it was its eighty three inches
under sevent feet that was at its shoulders,

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tall, lanky, skinny, didn't
look emciated whatever that word is,

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you know, hungry. It didn't
look like that. It was Actually it

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had the body of it was muscular
picture Bruce Lee when he would flex.

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It was like that very defined its
head. It was a larger deer head,

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but its eye location was more predatory. They were more forward facing.

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I didn't have eyes and when I
mean that I didn't see any It was

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like the fur skin or whatever was
covering its actual eye sockets. And the

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only other thing that was kind of
odd about it was its antlers. I

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guess that's what you would call them. They didn't go out wide and then

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go up. They kind of almost
went straight up on its head, kind

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of came forward just a little bit, and then arcd up hard on a

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ninety angle, and they were thicked. They almost looked like a bunch of

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thorns, which was kind of weird. They weren't like a normal deer.

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It was like thorns. And the
thing took a couple of steps. Distance

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from our tree to the other tree
light was maybe twenty to twenty five feet.

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It took a couple of steps,
didn't look at me, and then

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it just kind of faded out.
It faded out like the movie Predator,

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how it kind of gives you that
mirage look. It did that and faded

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out, and for me, I
was it was on one side of my

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driveway and I was on the other
side. I was kind of looked down,

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went well, said some choice words, and went back inside and proceeded

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to tell the wife about it.
And thank god, that's about it.

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I'm in one piece. I haven't
become any dog man's ball movement. So

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I am happy and that's it.
That's it for me. You're talking from

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early eighties to last week, and
I appreciate your time. Vic. Wow,

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Keith, that is a lot of
dog men encounters. I don't know

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how you've been able to keep your
sanity after having so many. Yeah,

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like I said, it's one of
those things. Is I think it really

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depends on the people. You don't
have to be Native American or anything to

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deal with this stuff. But I
think they pick up and I've heard other

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people say this, they pick up
on your emotions, your energy. I

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mean I really think they do.
They know I carry I'm a CPL carrier,

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which in Michigan is a concealed pistol
license. I carry anything from nine

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milimeter in pistol form up to we'll
say seven point six to two in pistol

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form. So depending on where I'm
at, it's what I'm carrying. Even

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if I'm armed these things. No, I'm not going to do anything to

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it. Why, there's no sense
in it. Like Kai said, they

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just want to live. Well,
Thank goodness for that that they don't give

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you any problems. Well, Keith, I'm sure the listeners have tons of

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questions they'd love to ask you.
When I was thinking about airing a live

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stream this Friday night, would you
be okay with coming back to answer their

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questions if I did that? Yes? Absolutely great, Well that makes it

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easy. If that's the case,
then yeah, this Friday at nine pm

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Eastern time, will air that live
stream so the listeners can do that.

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Hopefully they'll have plenty of questions for
you, which I'm pretty sure they will.

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But having said that, thanks again
so much for your time and for

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coming on sharing these experiences with us. I really appreciate it. I appreciate

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you. Oh you know you're welcome. Thanks again so much, and have

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a great night. Dan's year as
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