Welcome to the one hundred and forty sixth episode of the Supernatural Occurrence Studies podcast
So Damn Paranormal. My name is Jason Knight, host of the show,
and with me, as always is your very own Oscar Spector, producer,
extraordinary and podcast co host. Listeners. If you'd like to skip our intro,
please go to the show notes. There'll be a time stamp there waiting
for you to get you right to the topic. Oscar. We kind of
talked offline. There hasn't been much going on in our lives these past two
weeks. Anything you want to mention. No, no, I've just been
working on this show and I've been twitching on our Twitch channel and that's all
I've been doing, really and people can already see those if you're interested.
I've been playing, we playing actually I started my second run of The Last
of Us Part two if you want to check that out, which isn't a
horror game, but it has it's almost a horror game, you know.
Yeah, So I've been doing that. And otherwise I said, I have
no life. I've had no life in the last two weeks since because of
the show, because of the series. Thing, been writing and I haven't
done anything else. We mentioned it in the last episode that this now three
part series will likely crest one hundred pages, right. I was pretty sure
at the time, but now I am. It's over one hundred page script
you put together for this three parter. Mm hmm wow. Great job man,
and this one the octopus tendrils. This is what I've been waiting for
all that I know. I teased you off air about it a lot.
Yes, you did. You did so great job on that. Well,
we'll keep the intro short so you get right to the topic. For me,
kind of the same man. Nothing, just work, work, work,
incredibly tiring. I got a new fridge, you know, adulting that
that was exciting for us. Does talk to you, No, but it
is wi Fi you know who. I can't say her name because she's sitting
right next to me and she'll go off, But it's you know who enabled
ex a. Can we do that? If she went off when I spelled,
that would have been really creepy. Yeah, that would have been actual
creeper. He would be like, what if what if he spoke to you
by spelling? Now to you responses he and I'm out out in the backyard.
She goes, so, yeah, we got a new fridge and the
I mentioned this on the last episode. The Jason Vorhees I'm building from Part
four is coming along great so far. I've got ten videos from my video
journal for Patreon of Jason's build. I'm really happy with the way it's coming
out. So my free time weekends I've been I've been working on that.
So that's pretty exciting. But other than that, I got nothing else.
Iand what do you say we get into the contact information. This is going
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I'm not even gonna fight you on it today. I know. Wow,
this is amazing. This is amazing. So yes, this is a parting
my voice. You're gonna need it. And I'll just say it now.
This is a part three if you if you're just joining in now, make
sure and go back and listen to episode one four and one forty five to
get caught up on the octopus. And I think with that we could take
a break. Yeah, let's do it. Listeners, Welcome back to the
show. Well, the lights are turned down low, the ceremonial candle is
lit, and the drinks are flowing. Let's start this show. So I
think it bears repeating that this is a part three. If you're not caught
up, if you're just joining us, make sure and go back and listen
to episodes one and one forty five because Oscar Spector really lays the groundwork for
this octopus conspiracy. And in this episode we're going to see just how far
reaching these octopus tendrils really are. And I've been dying to hear this final
episode. So Oscar, could you please take us on this next journey,
this final journey. Yes, And normally I, you know, have this
whole you know, musings of an intro, of an opening that gets you
going, gets maybe the juice is flowing. Maybe ask some questions that are
along the way. I will have answer right in the body of the of
the show. I didn't give myself a chance to really write an opening,
so it's gonna jump in on it. But you know, luckily is that
it's a part three and the easiest thing for me to do in this case
is jump in with a recap. So previously on the Supernatural Current Studies podcast,
we expand the world beyond the deaths of Danny Casilero and Fred Alvarez by
talking about some of the men and companies in power that have led to disaster
on a bigger scale and across the world. Beginning in the US, the
first hurdle was the Wackenhut Corporation, a prestigious security firm and offices in several
dozens of countries, especially the US. Wackenhut was very right wing and anti
communism, either as a result of the political nature of their sixties and seventies,
or pushing agendas towards their own means, or both, and they did
their part to ward off any communist threat. They did this by sidestepping congressional
investigations in the form of a partnership with Cabison Band of Mission Indians and sending
arms manufactured on preservation land to countries like Nicaragua to help the contrast or the
Middle East against other communist footholds. Old Intelligence Book and Cabison financial advisor John
Philip Nichols managed his partnership through connections that led to people like Earl W.
Bryant and Michael Riconoshudo to work for their means. Besides anti communist rhetoric,
it's clear that money was valued as much as power in any former takes.
Next is the Inslaw affair. William Hamilton started and owned Inslaw, an information
technology company based in Washington, DC designed to get contracts for utilitarian software for
the US government. A great and useful software that they developed was called Promise
in the nineteen seventies. This program served to itemize, organize, and filter
large volumes of data to easily track and input new information, perfect for attorney
offices and police stations. Install went bankrupt though, after their contract with the
Department of Justice led to broken promises. In back room scheming, the DOJ
used their influence to refuse paying Inslaw millions of dollars for Promise while demanding the
rights to own their property. Congressional and Senate investigation investigations said they tricked and
stole from Inslaw, despite the fact that no one was brought to justice and
Inslaw went bankrupt. What's worse is that the DOJ and Attorney General Edwin mess
paid off a competitor of Inslaw, EARL W. Bryan, with copies of
the Promise software. Earlbrien then gave it to Israel, Canada and other countries
after contracting a CIA slash wagon Hut Lackey working at Cabazon Alm arms Michael Rignoeshudo
to install a backdoor and other changes in order to spy on foreign governments.
This was both for information on enemies or potential enemies, but also to the
highest bidder. Though unproven. William Hamilton fought the good fight in many ways,
including befriending and being Danny Cassilero's primary source for his research into Octopus,
and still fights to this day. Lastly, we delve deeper into Microwinknoshuda's background.
He was Cassilero's second primary source of information, providing key players and background
to scandals that made front page news throughout the years and in several countries.
Besides Wackenhut and Inslaw, Reconoeshudo had a slew of wild allegations that were hard
to believe but contained real possibilities. This includes conspiracy theories like the October Surprise
which implicator O'Brien, as well as the newgan Handbank scandal in Australia. A
gifted man of science, Reconnaseshuda at first proved to be a witness with real
heft in the eyes of congressional investigations until his arrest in nineteen ninety one.
His sworn statement that involved everything in this recap and much more, was damaged
in credibility when his alleged involvement in manufacturing and selling drugs led to a prison
sentenced days eight days after testifying. After Cassilero's death in August nineteen eighty one,
we can shoot a keptain contact with his allies, journalists, and family.
Further allegations and knowledge bombs are due to arrive in this final chapter.
The octapus tendrals okay, and for that the show actually will start, And
we're gonna start with a series of events and big companies too big to fail.
Some of them do fail, but it's gonna be a lot of fun.
Hopefully go along with it. There will be low breaks for discussion if
we if there's any, and we're gonna start with something called the BCCI scandal.
This is kind of a big one. This segment may seem to require
some knowledge in finance or history of finance, but I personally don't think so.
Similar to how I treated the Instas segment in the last show, you
don't need to know the intricacies of computer. Therefore, you don't need to
know how the world of banking works to understand this part. It definitely couldn't
hurt though, of course. BCCI stands for the Bank of Credit and Commerce
International. It was founded by a Pakistani financier in nineteen seventy two named Aga
Hassan Abdi. The BCCI was registered in Luxembourg with primary offices in Karachi and
London, and managed to achieve over four hundred branches in seventy eight countries.
Only a decade later this bank hat yeamt. This bank had assets and excess
of twenty billion US dollars, making it the seventh largest private bank in the
world. BCCI was created with capital, of which twenty five percent was from
the Bank of America and the remaining seventy five percent from Sikh Zayed bin Sultan
al Nayan, the ruler of Abu Dhabi in the United Arab Emirates. The
company divided itself into BCCI Essay in Luxembourg and BCCI Overseas in Grand Cayman.
They did this because it allowed several transactions like buying the BCO for example,
bank to commerce replacements. That's French. By the way, I can't do
French. They also created KIFKO, the Kuwait International Finance Company, and a
series of other companies through ICIC, which is the International Credit and Investment Company,
And they did all this through BCCI, and all of this was done
by seventy six, by the way, so these are big purchases, That's
what I'm saying. There were pieces in newspapers saying that this type of rapid
expansion was done through cash deposits, when most companies of this magnitude used the
money to make investments from here. It was alleged that quote the bank's transformation
was guided by the head of Saudi Intelligence with a view to enable enabling it
to finance covered American operations at a time in the aftermath of Watergate, when
the American intelligence agencies were defending themselves from investigation by domestic authorities unquote, which
kind of reminds me of the enhanced interrogation we did under Bush Bush Junior and
became controversial and then was frowned upon later under Obama. If you remember this
time, you know it's a time to back pedal, check your surroundings and
cover your ass. But already the crafts of conspiracy are showing. BCCI also
entered the African financial markets in nineteen seventy nine and Asia in the eighties,
one of the first foreign banks awarded a license to operate in China. Actually,
to give an example of Aga Hassana Betty's networking skills, JP Morgan and
City Corp. Wish they had those licenses. Wow. Yeah, Let's get
into how they worked, not just their accomplishments. The two hundred plus managers
and general managers reported directly to Abeti and CEO Swallee Nakvi. The company was
structured in such a way that no single country had overall regulatory supers over it,
so it's not to hinder potential growth and expansions from blossoming. It was
also not regulated by a country that had a central bank. Finally, it
should be mentioned as part of background, of course, that the reason Luxembourg
and Grant Cayman are desirable locations to start a bank is because they have shall
we say, weak banking regulations, notoriously so. In fact, American cinema
constantly references big wig bad guys boasting their offshore accounts created from illegal activities.
Because of such things, a bureau within the US Department of Treasury warned the
Federal Reserve on several occasions that, in no uncertain terms, should be CCI
be allowed to buy any American bank because it was poorly regulated. I believe
saus is the correct term here, little saus, Yes, a little bit.
By the way, I really love that sentence, big wig, bad
guys boasting. It's just like a lot of bees in there alteration. Anyway,
there were other dealings and maneuvers that produced worry in Western minds. Through
many loans and using BCCI's stock as collateral, they made one point four to
eight billion dollars which found its way to secretly owning First American Bank. Here's
how they did it quote. One of the pieces of the schemes was Washington
based First American Bank Shares Inc. For a fee, prominent Middle Eastern individuals
served as fronts for BCCI in gaining control of the Washington bank in nineteen eighty
one. These illegally held shares in First American were then used as collateral a
second time by BCCI to raise about six hundred million dollars in new loans.
Set A source investigating the affair for British authorities BCCI used that money to cover
up losses elsewhere. He said, unquote, that's a big fucking deal.
This was discovered through audits when BCCI's numbers acted suspiciously. There were strange lending
practices too, which led the United Kingdom to set a cap on their number
of branch networks allowed in their country. Lending law violations galore here. Beyond
all of this, I said, so far, there's an incredible amount of
money laundering, causing corruption, peddling, and bribery that was done through BCCI.
This is why there are my radar firsts on this. Part three.
I consider buying the book The BCCI Affair, a report to the Committee on
Foreign Relations by Hank Brown. But I figured there's an insane amount of coverage
already in articles and such that I'll think, I'll be fine. What do
you think so far? These have you heard of them? I haven't heard
of BCCI, But these wizard like accounting practices are just h it's unbelievable,
unbelievable that someone could come up with this sort of thing. Yeah, no,
it is all that is just what's been one hundred percent proven so far.
Everything I said exactly how in that way. Wow. Obviously they backtracked
that, and now that their b CCI is gone whichever kind of alluded to
earlier, obviously they don't no longer own back of America whatever, but they
they pulled it off for a while there. Yeah, too, amazing.
I never that's a weird that's like a that's like a scheme that that works
maybe to get like a few box off someone, but they did it on
such a large scale, right, Anyway, It's funny. Here's how I
saw BCCI. If a regular bank with all of his you know bullshit is
like Facebook, then b CCI was fortune unregulated, unregulated, borderline to actually
illegal and finally dismantled. You know how casinos, especially especially in Las Vegas,
are built as labyrinths to keep you from leaving and distract you with pretty
lights, legs and alcohol. Absolutely mm hmmm. It was similar with b
CCI. When otters came calling, the byzantine internal workings confused everyone, including
BCCI employees themselves, making it all the more difficult to keep track of their
scheming until the point where I don't even have to ask you where this is
going and how it all might fit. Right. Here's a few more examples
though to underline BCCI's darker side, the most active countries were Brazil, Argentina,
Colombia, Uruguay, Paraguay, Peru, and Venezuela. Beyond the fact
that Venezuela was name dropped a couple times in this trilogy, you know that
the reason for this is fucking drugs. Quote. According to one BCCI source,
by far the largest operation was in Colombia, where BCCI ran essentially a
full service bank with branches in the centers of drug production. The bank developed
a reputation for asking no questions, dealing in large amounts of cash, and
generating a lot of wire transports of the kind that can be used to launder
money. Sources said, unquote wow. In nineteen eighty eight, BCCI did
business when with an undercover agent in Florida who was posing as a drug operative
looking to launder millions of dollars. This is a little example. I read
that article. By the way, it seems like the guy stole the money
from drug dealers and instead of handing it off to the federal he tried to
like launder it through BCCI. That's a Hollywood script right there. That's a
Hollywood script. Essentially, another example. Quote. BCCI had a wide network
in the Middle East and Africa, and was especially dominant in Pakistan. It
was a favorite bank under the regime of former Pakistani President Zia, for instance,
the diseased US ally who worked whose government, sorry, whose government was
assisting the CIA's funding in the Afghan rebels. I Betty could just walk in
and out of Zia's office, said a former customer. They knew how to
get to the top in third world countries. Unquote. BCCI's clients were people
like Manuel Noriega, Fernand Marcos, and Saddan Hussein. All big deals.
Obviously Sadam Usam is more famous for US, but all big deals. Yeah,
here's a juicy name though that maybe you don't know. Jay. It
was alerted to Bank of England officials that Abu Nidal was using an account at
a BCCI branch in London. Abu Nidal, which is his Nomniger, was
the founder of Fatah the Revolutionary Consul, a Palestinian splintered group thought to be
the most ruthless in the seventies and eighties. People into modern history and politics
may know of him already. He's believed to have ordered attacks in over twenty
countries, killing more than three hundred people. His most famous attacks were of
Rome and Vienna's airports in nineteen eighty five. A revolutionary to some and a
terrorist to others, Abu Nidal was killed and bagged that in two thousand and
two, supposedly on orders by Saddam Hussein. Nadal wasn't just in it for
a cause, though he was often contracted as well. But I did not
read too much into his actions, although he is an interesting one for me
for several reasons. For the show, terrorism or whatever, men like Ablin
Nadal happened to be. It's something we almost could cover on the show,
but not quite you know, not quite serial killer and not quite enough for
conspiracy. It's almost too historical and political to discuss in depth, you know,
on the fringes of a subject of ours. But what do you think
so far? I don't know yet. I don't know yet. I mean
I could just see these Manuel Noriego or Isadam Hussein walking up to a teller
in one of these banks. Could I catch him this fifty for some I'm
pretty sure they send someone someone that this bank had them as clients. Yeah,
not shady at all. No, No, not at all, No,
forget them. That being said, I want to go over a few
things that hit closer to our show. They shouldn't be a surprise, but
the motherfucking CIA used the CCI pull their covert operations, particularly in the Middle
East and South America. What those accounts were allegedly used for was to aid
foreign governments, launder money, to purchase arms, and controlling, at least
in a financial way, the drug interests funneling in and out of the United
States. I say allegedly because there is no evidence, though it is quite
fucking obvious. A former Commissioner of Customs told the people investigating BCCI about the
CIA several accounts. A nineteen ninety one article stated that the National Security Council
also had accounts at BCCI which had been used in a slew of covert operations,
including transferring money and weapons during the Iron Contra affair. I will explain
more about that in a bit. After the audits came the myriad of investigations
from all fronts. There was a massive regulatory battle in nineteen ninety one,
and in early July of that year, customs and bank regulators in seven countries
raided and locked down records of its branch offices. Yeah quote. Investigators in
the United States and the UK the determined that BCCI had been set up deliberately
to avoid centralized regulatory view and operated extensively in bank secrecy jurisdictions. Its affairs
were extraordinarily complex. Its officers were sophisticated international bankers whose apparent objective was to
keep their affairs secret, to commit fraud on a massive scale, and to
avoid detection. With a lifespan between nineteen seventy two to nineteen ninety one,
mere weeks before Danny Casilero is found dead, the BCCI gets liquidated in force
closure. I want to say that too much of this is fucking true,
and I have skipped many many other problems and key people connected with that piece
of recent history that either used or were used by the BCCI, you know,
in a director and direct manner, I went with the Bank of Credit
and Commerce International first because establishing what it was at the top of the show
will help when they come up again later on. Beyond this that, all
saying, follow the money kept coming into my thoughts when researching this three part
series. Financial gain, especially if it's tax free is the greatest motivator for
the conspiracies happening here. It's not the only one, but the one that
brings all the suspects together. Danny Cassilero had found connections between the Octopus and
BCCI, and I'd argue that after install it was probably the main focus for
him. I'm not done with BCCI, but we will move on. So
that's the end of the BCCI part. What do you think? Okay,
so Casilearra was starting to investigate them. Oh yeah, he had been Yeah,
and then he wound up being suicided. Yeah, just wakes weeks apart
from the actual downfall of the company all weeks. Yeah, you're gonna see
a lot of the same, like years popping up, ninety one, eighty
one, all those are gonna pop up a lot here, and like,
oh it's a little too coincidental. See, you're gonna see more of that.
Now we're on to our next bit here. It's called this next segment
is called the Reagan Administration. H Okay, man, No, sorry,
guess this segment is not as political as you may think. I will not
be going over the infamously bad slogan of just saying no, I will remember
that, right. Yeah. I will not go over Reagan's policies. I'm
going to focus on two events, one in the beginning of his first presidential
term and the other in the middle of a second. We will begin with
the October surprise, no mystery. I'll just say what it is. This
is a conspiracy theory directly involving then California governor. Governor said that word,
Ronald Reagan and others in a plot to use the release of fifty two American
hostages in Iran in order to win the nineteen eighty election for presidency. Now
that sing sounds too simple, so let's figure it out. What prompted the
fifty two Americans to be came a group of militarized college students belonging to the
Muslim student followers of the Immam's Line who supported the Iranian Revolution, took control
of the US embassy in Tehran. This happened on November fourth, nineteen seventy
nine, and they were held for four hundred and forty four days until January
fourth, nineteen eighty one. At the time, then President Jimmy Carter called
this atrocity an act of blackmail, and the hostages as victims of terrorism and
anarchy. Iran saw this as an act against the US for influencing Iran,
perceived or not, through the Shaw of Iran named Mohammad Reza Pahiavi. The
US did give long standing support to the Shaw and what caused the Iranian Iranian
Revolution led to Pahiavi's overthrow in seventy nine. You see, when he was
overthrown by the people of Iran, Pahiavi was admitted to the US for cancer
treatments, which in turn led to those college students to take action against American
citizens in Tehran. They took American diplomats in exchange for the Shah who were
supposed to stand trial for the crimes against the people of Iran. That's why
they did it. In response, the US rejected Iran's Iran's demands, that's
funny. In response, the US rejected Iran's demands to release the shot to
them, and Iran saw the Americans as complicit in the atrocities that they suffered.
Let's finish talking about the crisis. In the official capacity, the Iranians
were in violation of international law, specifically the Vienna Convention, which grants immunity
to diplomats on foreign soil. We all know that the crisis reached the climax
after diplomatic negotiations failed to win the release of the hostages. This led President
Krter to send the US military to try and rescue them with something called Operation
Eagle Claw, using the US as limits and US's choral c on April twenty
fourth, nineteen eighty. The attempt failed and resulted in one Iranian casualty and
the accidental deaths of eight Americans. In September nineteen eighty, the Iran War
began when Iraq invaded Iran. This led to negotiations with the Iranan government concerning
the hostages and used Algeria as a goat between. It was too late for
Carter, however, when he lost the election in a landslide and the algiers
of courts weren't signed until literally minutes after Reagan's inaugural addressed to the Nation was
over. The crisis strengthened Ayatola Kammane's power and weakened relations between the two countries.
I'll explain who Commane was in a second. Even all of this so
far, it's just a simplified version of the intricacies between the two regions and
the people. One could easily go as far back as nineteen fifty three,
when the CIA entered Iran through Operation Ajax, which defended British oil interest and
involved the Prime Minister at the time, the famously known political schemer Henry Kissinger.
That fucking asshole was involved in Iraq and Iran beginning in the nineteen sixties,
and so on, and so on and so on. Danny Cassilero,
the man who has quickly become the source for all these connections to the octopus
in this series, heavily researched this nefarious group's dealings overseas throughout administrations like Nixon
and Reagan. Cassilero and several others believed that individuals high in the Reagan administration
arranged for those fifty two American hostages to be held in Iran and detained until
after the election. This comes from an excerpt in then Cassilero's never published book
quote. While rumors of the hostage release delays circulated for years after the election
of Ronald Reagan, it wasn't until nineteen eighty eight that testimony was offered by
two covert operatives in two different courts regarding their knowledge and participation of a hostage
release stall managed by then Reagan campaign chief William Casey. But now two more
COVID operators have emerged from that desert reservation in the journey of this story effort
to confirm that previous testimony and provide richer details regarding the laundered payment by the
Saudis and other particularities in order to prevent what Casey feared the most, a
surprise release of the hostages before the election, almost guaranteeing windfall votes for President
Jimmy Carter. The alleged reward to another Reagan insider for that mission to Iran
in the summer of nineteen eighty has been almost wholly responsible for the leagues leading
to this odyssey, for it was in that reward, in the form of
a multimillion dollar contract government contract, that technologies were found were found to have
been stolen by the government from another company in that other companies recovery from bankruptcy.
CEO has been the real life star and gumshoe in this drama that continues
to unfold each day. Cassillar also wrote, since Reagan was not a favorite
son of the octopus. Why did it work so hard to ensure his selection
in nineteen eighty even if the participation by campaign officials and holding the hostages until
the election was limited to just the acquiescence of smiling gentleman who knew better.
Why was the veil removed when it could have been so absolutely secret unquote.
The two covert operatives Cassiller was talking about is Michael Riconaeshudo and Ari Ben Menashi,
who were mentioned we gonna SHOOTO especially many times in the last show.
The technologies and theft from a company is referring to Install again as a spotlight
in the last episode, oh be talking about it. The multimillion dollar laundering
that occurred was through BCCI at least some of it. That payment was to
an another man we talked about on the last show, also called Earl O'Brien,
who we see a certain software as his reward. That was Yeah.
My thinking on Reagan's involvement is that it is passive at best. Reagan winning
the election provided a way or an easier way to manipulate events and people to
suit the octopus, particularly having a slightly younger Bush senior in the administration.
Having a republican instead of a democrat was useful to them. Like Cassilero began
with statements made by former President of Iran, albo Hassan Bani Sader. I'm
mispronouncing that for sure. He was the first president of Iran after the Iranian
Revolution of nineteen seventy nine. That is, he abolished a monarchy and was
impeached in nineteen eighty one. The Iranian political and religious leader and founder of
the Islamic Republic of Iran who led the Iranian Revolution of seventy nine was Ayati
Ruhollah Kohmani, a famous figure worldwide. Kohmane was close friends with Bannie Satter's
father and was Supreme Leader when he helped them become Prime minister. Anyway,
Dannie Sator claimed that the allegations about the October Surprise were true. Something he
said he figured out after the fact, but still A source we've talked about
in the last episode that backed up this claim was Ari Ben Menashi, who
was an Israeli intelligence officer that was prominent on the Inslack case. Here's something
else quote This one's potentially fucked up. It won't sound that way, but
it will be later. Quote. There is a twenty one hour gap in
George Bush's schedule corresponding to the time he is supposed to have been in Paris
negotiating the hostage detainment and conflicting stories from Bush and his staff about what he
was doing when the alleged negotiations with the Iranians took place. In an AFID
Daydavid attorney Paul D. Wiltshire sent to Attorney General Janet Reno, He too,
detailed the existence of a shadow government, paralleling in precise terms the Castelero
octopus and their participation in the October Surprise. Quote Within the quote, the
October Surprise Treason refers to the top secret trip then vice presidential candidate and former
CIA Director George Bush, along with a planeful of some twenty five to thirty
other top CIA covert operatives, including a handful of prominent Republican and Democratic senators
and congressmen, took to Paris on the weekend of October eighteenth and nineteenth,
nineteen eighty. While in Paris, Bush secretly met with representatives of Ayatola Comane
paid them pribes in the amount of forty million dollars and promised to deliver to
the man additional five billion dollars in arms. The shipments of these arms began
flowing even before the election, in exchange for the Iranians agreement not to release
the fifty two American hostages they held in Tehran until after the November fourth,
nineteen eighty US presidential elections, in order to guarantee the humiliation and defeat of
President Jimmy Carter in that election, and in order to cement the CIA's block
on the White House for the next twelve years under George Bush. What what
what what? What's the what's insane? Yeah? It is. Do you
believe this? Ah? Yeah, a little bit. Wow. There's actually
more stuff later on that kind of details. Back to at that twenty one
hour gap, okay, okay, but yeah overall, Yeah, they talk
a lot about that weekend. H yeah. Uh yeah. I'm not gonna
play it. I'm gonna let's go rolling on. There's a lot to unpack
there. Remember, Remember, this is happening, or allegedly happening, just
as the Apartment of Justice, via shadowy figures in the American intelligence community are
gearing up to steal the promised software from William Hamilton and insult. This is
when the Cavison Wackenhot partnership was flourishing as they made and shipped weapons to god
knows where. Think of the alleged promise of five billion dollars worth of arms
to Iran. I just quoted right. This is when the BCCI is thriving
with corrupt loans and branches, when the CIA used the bank accounts to help
their interests in places like Iran. This time also leads. This time also
leads to more people speaking out like we can a Shooto and Cassillaro and Wiltshire.
This attorney, Paul Wiltscher is very interesting and will be coming up later,
but I will say now that he was the last of three lawyers that
tried to help we kin a Shooto when he was behind bars in the nineteen
nineties in Ariban. Mnashi knows so much about this Paris meeting is because he
says he was there as well as we can Shudo, who said he helped
facilitate such meetings and bribes for the higher ups, so they were like Lackey
level people. One of those higher ups was an asshole we talked about in
the last show. Or O'Brien, the man with CIA connections and tech companies
that stole the promise software from anslaw quote amazingly, even we can shoot those
allegations about Brian's involvement in the so called October Surprise could also be verified,
at least to a degree. Brian had told several persons that he planned to
visit Paris the weekend of the October Surprise meetings, and Ariban Menashi, who
claimed to be present that the Paris meetings, said, quote, I saw
Brian in Paris unquote. What do you think of that? What do I
think? With the connections? Now with the arms? M wow. Now
back to the Kabazan band of Mission Indians, and right back to the first
episode and second episode. WHOA Okay? There were investigations into the October Surprise.
Of course. The TV news series Frontline produced a documentary in nineteen ninety
one which investigated evidence about how both the Carter and Reagan camps may have tried
to forge secret deals with the Iranian hostages. A man named Gary Sick.
He's not sick, his name is sick. Gary Sick published an editorial in
The New York Times in November nineteen ninety one and wrote a book titled October
Surprise, America's Hostages in Iran and the election of Ronald Reagan. Six's credibility
was high because he was a retired naval captain who had served on Ford's,
Carter's and Reagan's National Security Council. Quote. Sick wrote that in October nineteen
eighty, officials in Ronald Reagan's presidential campaign, including future CIA director William Casey,
made a secret deal with Iran to delay the release of the American hostages
until after the election. In return for this, the United States purportedly arranged
for Israel to ship weapons to Iranquote. The Senate investigation in November nineteen ninety
two found that the evidence fell short to prove this October Surprise theory. In
nineteen ninety three, the House of Representatives report concluded the same. For the
public and skeptics of the politics of that era, they immediately saw that there
was something suspicious with those fifty two hostages when Iran released them only minutes after
Ronald Reagan concluded his twenty minute inaugural address. They were not very subtle about
this. No no, no, no. Now you look at it,
but as not result, there was so much chatter concerning the October Surprise,
the name coined in an issue of Executive Intelligence Review in December nineteen eighty.
However, the height of this conspiracy came years into the Oreagan administration and the
Iron Contra affair occurred. Publications like Newsweek had said that the Iron Contra created
fertile ground for the October Surprise theory, meaning since this affair, which broke
in November of nineteen eighty six, was true, then it makes sense that
the October Surprise one could be too. Right. Quote an article by Bob
Woodward and Walter Pinkus A few days later in the November twenty ninth, nineteen
eighty six, The Washington Post said that the United States officials tied to Reagan
well before the Iron Contra affair, considered an initiative to sell US made military
parts to Iran in exchange for the hostage just held there. The House October
Surprise Task Force credited the Woodward Pinkus article as raising claims that would become keystones
in the October Surprise theory. Unquote, you know Bob woodwood Oh, absolutely,
Bernstein, that's the Bob Woodward Right, who teamed up with Kyle Bernstein
and did the reporting on the Watergate scandal that led to Nixon's downfall. The
famous film All the President's Men is based on this. This is yepantastic,
exactly fantastic movie. This is deep throw territory we're talking about. Yes,
the Aran Contra affair is far more convoluted, but that's because it builds on
previous history, like the October Surprise theory and the overall American involvement in the
Middle East. I'll try my best to simplify. The following comes from history
dot Com. I went simpler on this quote because quote the Iran Contra affair
was a secret US arms deal that traded missiles and other arms to free some
Americans held hostage by terrorists in Lebanon, but also used funds to I'm sorry,
but also use funds from the arms deal to support armed conflict in Nicaragua.
The controversial deal, the ensuing political scandal threatened to bring down the presidency
of Ronald Reagan. Unquote that's maybe too simplified. Let's add some color.
Winning the White House didn't have the political momentum Reagan needed to push his agendas,
especially when the GOP was taken from the majority in both the Senate and
the House. This resulted in the Reagan Doctrine, which is a promise to
assist anti communist insurgencies around the world. You can see where this is going
Already, having taken down, having taken control of Congress Democrats, Democrats passed
something called the Bolan Amendment, which restricted the activities of the CIA and the
DoD in foreign conflicts. This amendment was supposed to prevent things like the Iron
Kanter affair and the Sandinistas in Nicaragua. Quote. Meanwhile, in the Middle
East, where US relations with many nations were strained to the breaking point,
two regional powers, Iraq and Iran, were engaged in bloody conflict. At
the same time, Iranian backed terrorists and Hesbolah were holding hot seven Americans,
diplomatic, private contractors, and Lebanon. Reagan delivered another ultimatum to his advisors
find a way to bring those hossages home. In nineteen eighty five, McFarland
sought to do just that. He told Reagan that Iran had approached the United
States about purchasing weapons for its war against neighboring Iraq. There was, however,
a US trade embarber with Iran at the time, dating back to that
country's revolution and subsequent overthrow of We talked of ahm SHAHPAHIAVII of Iran, during
which fifty two American hostages were held for four hundred and forty four days in
a diplomatic stand up known as the Iran Hostage Crisis or for US, the
October Surprise. Although several months of Reagan's administration opposed it, including Secretary of
State George Schultz and Secretary of Defense Casper Weinberger, McFarland argued that an arms
deal with Iran would not only secure the release of the hostages, but it
would help United States improve relations with Lebanon, providing the country with an ally
and a region where it desperately needed one. And as an aside, the
arm steel would secure funds that the CIA could secretly funnel to the Contra to
the Contra insurgency in Nicaragua. This is with the backing So with the backing
of McFarland and CIA Director William Casey, Reagan pushed ahead with the trade over
the objections of Wineberger and Schust. So in comes Oliver North. Have you
heard of him? Yes, it's okay, so even you know, Okay,
Well, if I can real quick, what I remember is when I
would come home from school, I would want to go to the TV and
watch some cartoons. Man, but every day was the goddamn I ran iron
contract scandal with fucking Oliver North sitting there getting deposed, and I couldn't watch
my cartoons. That that was the center of my life. Yes, it
was disrupting my life. I know that happened. Yes, I definitely that
pain. Wow, that's pretty funny. That's how you know, that's how
you remember him. So like maybe Jay's too young for this, you know,
but like because you're old by in reality you're not that cold. Um,
so you were just a child. But I guess you remember the waking
breaking atomaniacs or whatever. Medi mouse to bring you this message, right,
all right, So in comes Oliver North. By the time this arms deal
was reported in the press, first by Al Jhazero, the Lebanese newspaper in
nineteen eighty six, the Americans had sold fifteen hundred missiles to Iran for thirty
million dollars. Attorney General Edwin miss launched an investigation and found that eighteen out
of the twenty million were missing or on account for quote. It was then
that Lieutenant Colonel Oliver North of the National Security Council came forward to acknowledge that
he had diverted their missing funds to the Contrast in Nicaragua, who used them
to you know, acquire weapons. North said that he had done so with
the full knowledge of Nashville Security Advisor Admirald John Poindexter. He assumed Reagan was
also aware of his efforts. I talked about Edwin Nice in the last show
as having connections with earlbrien, helping him with inslaw and stealing promise from Bill
Hamilton. Anyway, it was seen that Reagan's lack of oversight enabled the people
he appointed to divert fronts to the Contrast funds to the Contrast. Despite the
fact that this followed the Reagan doctrine, he said he wasn't fully aware and
only partially. The press and colleagues hounded the Reagan administration over this, and
LA launched several investigations. An eight year investigation led to fourteen people being charged
for what was called the Iron Contra affair, including Oliver North. Poindexter and
McFarland. Remember what I said in the last episode about conspiracies, Even if
unaware, you are responsible for your actions when charged or tied to a conspiracy.
Hence why people like Poindexter was charged. It should be no that Reagan
was never charged and key players like North were given slaps on the wrists for
the laws they broke. The bold and Amendment I mentioned earlier was meant to
stop something like this from happening. Some people in power saw what places like
Lebanon, Iran, and Nicaragua were leading to and tried to take actions with
the amendment, but it failed. You see, the anti communist group the
Contrasts, were fighting the communist government called the Sandinistas while Reagan was in office.
Reagan described the contrasts asked, quote the moral equivalent of the founding fathers
unquote. I know, yes, he's an actor. What do you want?
Right? And wanted to help. Again, as one can see from
the Reagan doctrine, it makes sense he would want to help. He asked
is he asked his National security advisor, Robert McFarland, to find a way
to assist, no matter the monetary of political costs. Where are the connections
between this Iron Contra affair and the Octopus? You might ask, I'm going
to quote a paragraph from the last show. It's now I'm requoting myself.
This is ridiculous. Yes, sorry, that wasn't the script. It's part
of the affid David Michael Bikinishudo made and March first, nineteen eighty one.
Quote the Wackenhat Cabston joint venture was intended to support the needs of a number
of foreign government's forces, including forces and governments in Central America and the Middle
East. The contras in Nicaragua represented one of the most important priorities for the
joint venture. Unquote, there it is. That's it. I did all
that just just to tie that one in there. I don't really have to
say anymore because you know all about that reservation, the security firm with ties
to the Middle East, rote government elements selling install software to other countries,
and now the banking and political opportunities they took to understand this, everything is
connected. It's yeah, it's amazing, it really is. Yeah, so
is his Octamus. Maybe this is too soon. Is Octopus the shadow government
that everyone's always talking about? Yes, the one I mentioned that wheelchair quoted.
Yes, that's what they are. Shit, You're like, shit,
where am I gonna do that? Uh? Yeah, that was funny.
That was the funny. Yeah. So that's the Reagan administration segment. So
much unseaid really, but that's how connect to us. Now I want to
the next one here. Lets see, have you heard of the Knugan Handbank
scandal. I have not. This one I added in late in the show.
I wasn't gonna add it in, but then I found too much connections,
of course, so I went with it. So this next segment,
this next segment is shorter but potent. Nougan Handbank was an Australian merchant bank
that had a short life span of seven years from seventy three to nineteen eighty.
Founded by an Australian lawyer, Frank Nugan and co founded by former US
Green Beret Michael John Hand or Mike Hand. This bank is the smaller yet
still loud version of the BCCI in its controversy and illegal activities. According to
our historian, the bank was formed with a fraudulent claim of one million dollars
in share capital, and Neugan wrote his own company a personal check of nine
hundred and eighty thousand dollars to buy four hundred and ninety thousand shares of its
stock. This bank attracted I see your head? Sorry, what kind of
balls that people have here? The bank attracted investors with promises of up to
sixteen percent interest rates on their deposits. What right I would join that ship
too? So what promises up to sixteen percent? Inter I can you can't
even say it? What a straight face that is? That's like, uh,
sorry, finding the pot at the end of the rainbow. Holy shit,
yes, clearly sorry, seriousness, promises of up to sixteen percent interest
rates on their deposits, and assurances of anonymity and tax reaccounts. Right after
its collapse, a former employee said that the newgan Hand Bank paid commission of
up to two point five percent on unsecured investments of one million dollars or more,
while the standard at the time was only point five percent. Amazing,
They had special investment assistance and services such as money laundering. Who knew they
have that on? Why not? It's I'm telling you it must have been.
The way people talk about it, it must have been. That's the
only way it makes sense to me. Quote. Nougan Hand rapidly gained business
and expanded its offices from a single Sydney office to a global network that included
branches in Chiang Mai, Manila, Hawaii, Singapore, Hong Kong, Taiwan,
Washington, d C. And the Cayman Islands where it was registered where
we talked about Kyman. I. Of course, the Chiang Mai office in
Thailand was interesting because it was the heart of the Golden Triangle heroin trade.
Perfect for money laundering, really the perfect spot. Really wow. It reminds
me of BCCI setting up shopping Colombia for the cocaine. Absolutely m hm.
Anyway, Nugan Bank gained a certain level of respectability when it hired or by
hiring retired US military and intelligence personnel, such as former Rear Admiral Ropyates and
bank president and CIA head William Colby. This Colby character is someone to watch
out for. In World War Two he served with the Office of Strategic Services.
Afterwards, Colby joined the newly created CIA and became station chief in Saigon.
Before and during the Vietnam War, he was overseer of the Phoenix Operation.
Have you ever heard of the Phoenix Operation? I haven't known, or
Operation Phoenix Maybe, which was designed by the CIA and involved the US,
Australia and South Vietnamese to identify and destroy Via Kong. This included infiltration,
torture, capture, counter terrorism, and assassination, and may also explained his
Australian connection to joining Nougan Bank later on. For the record, I,
like other people in the series, believe Colby to be a member of the
Octopus Yes anyway. Nougan Handbank's downfall was precipitated by the death of Frankkugan on
January twenty seventh, nineteen eighty. He was facing charges on stock fraud when
he was found dead in his car in New South Wales by a thirty caliber
rifle shot. It was deemed a suicide, but the lack of fingerprints on
the weapon and questions regarding the police who found Nougan dead were left unanswered.
Also, people thought it suspicious when William Colby's business card was found in the
vehicle. Shit. I don't know if it was a calling card of what
he was doing from here. People asked more questions about the bank and its
dealings, which led to investigations Michael Hand and early Yates had ordered important company
documents destroyed or hidden, as the authorities found Nugan's office ransacked. This apparent
suicide made front page news, and after destroying records, Hand fled Australia under
a false identity In June nineteen eighty. There were three major investigations from New
South Wales and the Royal Commission of Inquiry looking into the scandal and his drug
money connections, which even included a link to former Philippine President Ferdinand Marcos to
the bank he was using. That other bank too would set him. You
remember it's good, Yeah, it's good. I'm glad. I was worried
that people would dismiss that early quote. The Royal Commission found that the Knugan
Hand Bank was implicated in money laundering, illegal tax avoidance schemes, and widespread
violations of banking laws. One witness, a former New Hand director, stated
that Hand threatened bank executives quote within the quote. If we didn't do what
we were told and things weren't handle property, our wives would be cut into
pieces and put in boxes and sent back to us. However, the Royal
Commission did not find credible evidence of drug smuggling arms dealing and the CAA involvement
unquote sure yeah, sure, sure, Jan, to which I say,
what, how do what this results astonish people? And ultimately said that the
Royal Commission, from a government's perspective, decided that having a good relations having
good relationships with the Australian Security Intelligence Organization ASIO and the CIA was more important
than implicating them. So it was a political reason why he said that,
I think now what happened to Mike Hand. He was technically never found or
should I say, never brought to justice an Australian magazine in nineteen ninety one.
This is ten years or so after an Australian magazine nineteen ninety one reported
that Hann was living in the United States, even giving details like the address
in the article oh doocked, Yeah right, The Australian government did not make
a move to any on any possible extradition. By the way, In the
book titled Merchants of Menace, I love that Merchants of Mena is the true
story of the New and Hand Bank scandal, author Peter but I swear to
God that's his last name. Butt. Peter but said that Hand was living
under the name of Michael John Fuller in Idaho Falls, Idaho. The book
was published in twenty fifteen, so he's still not caught. It's mine so
as far as we know anyway, I guess that we see an obituary for
Michael John Fuller than we were, then we can say, oh, okay,
he died anyway. As usual, the connections between the Octopus and the
Newgan Hand Bank was emphasized by Danny Casilero. Through Michael Wikneshudo, he was
able to find these drug connections like the Golden Triangle trade, as well as
arms deals. Quote Other newg and Hand of officers included a network of US
generals, admirals, and CIA employees. Their identities officially surfaced two decades later
in Texas when a judge unsealed classified CIA internal documents in response to an appeal
filed in a US and a sorry in a Houston federal court. The appeal
was filed by Edwin Wilson, a former CIA agent convicted in the US for
selling C four high explosives to Libya and charged with supplying trained men, arms
and technology to Libya and other military buyers. He had served seventeen years of
a twenty five year sentence and was eligible for parole at his nineteen eighty three
trial. Wilson never identified his compatriots with the NEWGENHN galaxy, but David Adler,
his appeals lawyer, in nineteen ninety nine, reviewed hundreds of CIA documents
confirming Wilson's relationship with William Colby, Thomas Kleins, Bernie Houghton, and others
with Nougan Hand Bank and as an aside, real quick, all of these
are artuples people. They're all octopus people, except for Bernie Houghton probably,
but William Colby, Thomas clients, Edwin Wilson, Yeah, just an't aside.
I don't know why didn't put that in the script, but I'm just
telling you just between you and I, you know, between us girls.
Yeah, Betwen, those girls. The Texas Observer had reported in nineteen ninety
one the CIA officials Theodore Shackley, chief of clandestine operations in the Far East
in the mid nineteen seventies, and Thomas Kleins, along with their subordinate Edwin
Wilson, utilized secret bank accounts at Nougan Hand to fund a variety of COVID
operations, including destabilization of Australia's Labor Party in seventy five. Both Shackley and
clients would later resurface as key figures in the Iron Contra scandal. I never
mentioned them on purpose. By the way, Maurice Bernard Houghton, the closest
friend and advisor to Michael Hann, had daringly traded goods all over Southeast Asia
war zone in the nineteen sixties. The mysterious Texan played an active role in
Nougan Hand's affairs since its exception in nineteen seventy three. Acording to The Wall
Street Journal in nineteen eighty two, unquote all that was quote. It should
be noted that no one connected with Noogan Hand has ever been convicted of a
car no one. I will also note something that it is obvious about Edwin
Wilson's sentence. The quote mentioned that in addition to explosives and trained men,
he sold technology to Libya. That technology was most likely the promised software.
Nineteen eighty three fits the timeline, and Libya does show up on the long
list of countries where people like earlbrien sold the inslas software. Lastly, I'll
note that we are getting further back in time here the octopus potentrals didn't just
operate in the seventies and eighties and nineties. We just got our first real
series of hits from the fifties and sixties with the creation of the CIA and
highly suspected individuals that operated in the Vietnam War. Food for thought. As
we sink deeper here, you know what I've realized so far listening to the
these episodes. I live a real boring fucking life. I mean, these
guys are just they have their hands and everything. Oh pie, well,
pie, put my hand in that one, all right, Oh pie,
boring life I live, Jesus, that's funny that that's how you get out
of Sorry no, oh no, this this next one's gonna it's gonna break
your heart or no, or lift your spirits, do both at once.
We'll see. This next segment is called Connections, Suspects and Mysterious. That's
yes, okay, your face all right, look, yeah, it is
is that one. Yes, this section might be the most interesting one and
the longest. It'll basically cover everything I couldn't fit into all the previous segments
and the trilogy of the episodes. It is because it's this is because I
thought it might confuse and already confusing spider Web information or a point of a
story I was trying to tell. Or it could be because I felt the
juicier to wait until this time to reveal it now that the major Octopus events
have been revealed, or I just fucking forgot will I did forget some key
things up for real, I will disclose mini biles on people suspected as members
of the Octopus. These entries have no particular order, and their lengths vary,
and I'll pause for a moment between them. Expect a lot of quotes
here. I'm going to start with an easy one. I'm gonna start with
an easy one. Back on the Octopus Murders the first show of this series,
when discussing Danny Casilero, I mentioned that a few days before his death,
Danny had shown his friend Ben Mason several important papers about his research.
One of those was a photocopy of a passport of someone named Ibrahim. Authorities
found, yes, remember, authorities found no connections to this Ibraim, But
it was obvious that people believed that Castilero might have met him in Martinsburg in
a Martinsburg bar a day before he died. The reason I never explained it
at the time because I wasn't yet sure where it would lead, and I
didn't have enough information to reveal it. But no, now I do.
He showed him a twenty two point outline for his book, plus alarming papers
referring to the Iron Contra arms deals. He had photocopies of a one million
dollar check and a four million dollar check drawn from BCCI accounts that were held
by an international arms merchant named Annan Koshogi by another arms dealer and middleman to
the Iron Contra scandal, Manucher Gurbanifar. I love that name. She just
loves saying that Gerbonifart anyway. It's like a Pokemon Gobonifar. I choose you
anyway. In this stack of photocopies, Ben Mason noticed Abraham's passport as the
last sheet quote. Castilero had emphasized that Ibrahim had made a big deal of
showing him Cassilero his Egyptian passport. Ibrahim was obviously the informant of whom Olga
Casilero's housekeeper had seen sitting in the kitchen with Danny on August fifth. Hassan
Ali Ibraim Ali born in nineteen twenty eight, was later identified as the manager
of Citico, an alleged Iraqi front company for arms purchases. Castilera had obtained
these papers from his confidante Bob Bickle, who in turn obtained them from October
surprise source Richard Brenneke. Neither Danny or Bob Bickle were aware at the time
of a document from the US Department of Justice dated May sixteenth, nineteen eighty
five, written by William Bradford Bradford Reynolds, Assistantney Attorney General in the Civil
Rights Division, to William Weld, United States Attorney in Boston, advising mister
Well that the promised software was being provided to an Arab chiek for resale and
general distribution in his region. The letter read as follows, Dear mister Wild,
as agreed Messer's manager gurbanifar Adnan Kashogi and Richard Armitage will broke the transaction
of promised software to Sikh Khalid bin Mafus for resale and general distribution as gives
in his region, contingent upon the three conditions we last spoke of promise.
Promise the software it means must have a soft arrival, no paperwork, customs
or delay. It must be equipped with a special data retrieval unit. As
before, you must walk the financial aspects through Credit Suis into National Commerce Bank.
If you encounter any problems, contact me directly, Sincerely, W.
M. Bradford Reynolds, Assistant Attorney General, Civil Rights Division, Bill Hamilton,
owner of Inslaw, said he had received this document in the in November
two thousand and four from a consistently reliable US intelligence source. He said Donald
Carr showed the document to Bradford Reynolds in two thousand and five. Carr was
writing a biography on of Elliott Richardson and served with Reynolds in the Edwin MEAs
and Richard Thornberg Justice Department as a Republican political appointee. Reynolds authenticated the document.
He told Carr that Lowell Jansen's secretary brought the letter to him for signature
because Jensen was out of the building, the letter needed to be sent that
day and it needed to be signed by someone in Edwin Mes's inner circle.
He said he signed the letter but did not draft it. Reynolds said he
had a vague recollection that MYE recused himself on promise when he became a Churney
general in February nineteen eighty five, and Jensen said therefore to handle promise.
Reynolds told Carr that he had an independent memory of Armitage and Garbanifar working together
on promise. I know, I know. Yes. The names that sound
familiar to you have been talked about before in this series. Elliott Richardson,
Edwin mess and Richard Thornberg are all mentioned in the last episode. Yeah,
Elli Richardson being the Hotsha lawyer that said fuck you Nixon to Watergate. Yeah.
All copies of this document were supposed to be destroyed, but somehow made
it to Hamilton in two thousand and four. Firstly, I wanted to get
I wanted to get to Adnan Kashogi and other names like Monusher, Garbanifar,
and they ran contra sction of this episode. But the flow would have been
interrupted when I was connecting Casilero and the Octopus to the Reagan administration. So
here we are. Anyway, this Anan Kashogi. Have you heard of him?
Okay? Adnan Kashogi was a big deal in several circles. He was
the richest man in the world. In the nineteen eighties, and his yacht
Nabila was used in the James Bond film Never Say Never Again. Oh Okay,
he had his own custom monopoly board game of his properties. Oh you
Son of a Bitch. Yeah. And the Queen has a song called Koshogi
Ship No Shit Yeah, popular deal Yeah. Kashogi's sister, Samira was the
mother of Dodi Sayed Dotie Zayet. You know that name. It sounds that
sounds familiar. That should You're also find out. Kashogi's sister, Samira was
the mother of Dodi Sayad, an Egyptian and millionaire film producer who was romantically
involved with Princess Diana of Wales. That's it. They both died on August
thirty first, nineteen ninety seven in Paris. Became one of the most televised
tragedies in that decade, spawning many films and documentaries and conspiracies. By the
way, I'm not saying that that the octopus has anything to do with Princess
Diana's untimely Oh. I thought that. I was, like, I mean,
people are people definitely say that I'm not Silla. Yes, people say
that I'm only establishing Adnan Koshogi's wealth and power and that again everything is connected.
That should be show. That's why I should call a show Everything's connect
because everyone should cut it through their skulls. Anyway, Kashogi was a key
MetalMan in the Iron Contra affair in the exchange of arms for hostages, along
with Gorbatnevar. This was a complex series of events where co investigators found that
money borrow from BCCI was used for these arm purchase arms purchases having the US
and Saudi backing. In addition to this, Kashogi was arrested in nineteen eighty
eight for hiding funds, was held for three months before being extradited to the
US, where he was acquitted. Of course, yeah, the US in
nineteen ninety acquitted Kashogi and Emilda Marcos, widow of Philippine President Ferdinand Marcos,
of fraud and bracketeering. In case you're not sure, I mentioned fernand Marcos
ever so briefly on the show as having ties to both BCCI and the Newgan
Hand Bank. I also mentioned that a Lebanese magazine, Al Shazero, was
first to break the story of the Iran Contra affair. They were tipped off
by a regular contributor of this series, Ari Ben Menashi. I'm sorry I
lied, but that wasn't so easy. Instead of one, I gave you
like five connections there that began with the passport. This is how research for
the show has been for me. I read something about a company and the
people that run it, and they are close friends with people with another event
or affair, which in turn are connected to a government project of some kind.
And before you can say octopus, you're loss and I'm lost. Well
said that was just that the whole thing. I just wrote it verbatim as
I followed through the line of research. That's how it would look like if
I didn't like pad it. Wow, okay, yeah, yeah, ok
yeah, I'm sorry. Don't worry. That's the only jokey. I mean,
it's real, it's all real. But like that's the only one that's
like that. All right, this next one? What is it? Oh?
I know, I'm trying to read ahead, see where I'm at.
I'm going to quote a series of connections from Cherry Seamer's book The Last Circle,
as I have been you know, here and there to springboard a man
I want to discuss quote Cassilera was also investigating Colonel bo Gritz's expose of CIA
drug trafficking in the Golden Triangle and had requested to meet with a former police
officer who had information on Losan Laosian Laoshan Nowsian warlord Kun Saus Golden Triangle drug
trade proposal to the US. Grits had staged several expeditions to Laos in search
of missing POW's but reportedly stumbled upon a massive drug network in Southeast Asia and
American POWs were intertwined in that network, he told the Sacramento Bee in June
sixth, nineteen eighty seven. Grits had been indicted in May in May of
nineteen eighty seven for using a false passport under the name of Patrick Richard Clark
from Vancouver, Canada, but at his arraignment before a US magistrate in Las
Vegas, he said he had proper authorization for his travels. Cassilero also learned
through Sacramento b newspaper article dated June second, nineteen ninety that Patrick Moriarty,
the Red Devil Fireworks magnet, convicted of money laundering, political contributions and bribing
officials in Sacramento had been subpoenaed to testify on behalf of Grits. At his
trial in Las Vegas, Gritz was acquitted of the charges. Moriarty's lawyer,
Jan Lawrence Hanslick told The Bee that Moriarty had paid Grits to make business trips
to China, Singapore and other parts of Asia. Grid set his business trip
to Asia in July eighty nine was for the purpose of negotiating an oil interest
that he and Moriarty had set up between the People's Republic of China and Indonesia.
At the time of Gritz's trial, Patrick Moriarty was a long time thirty
years partner of Marshall Riconashudo, Michael Vicunashutto's father. They owned several California businesses
together, two of which were Hercules Research Corporation, of which Michael was a
partner, and Pyrotronics Corporation. I privately mused after reading the b article that
Michael Hand, before he founded Neugan Handbank in Australia with Frank Neugan and officials
and officials of the CIA owned Air America, had been a highly decorated Special
Forces Green Beret soldier in Vietnam. Colonel Bo Gritz was also a highly decorated
Green Beret in Vietnam. In both grits in Hand had special knowledge of intelligence
operations in Golden Triangle. After his first stint in Vietnam, Hand moved to
the clandestine CIA war in Laos. According to a former station chief in Indonesia,
Ted Shackley, the newgen Handbank, a primary CIA operation in the Pacific
area, reportedly laundered profits from drug trafficking in the Golden Triangle, which in
turn financed subversive paramilitary activities in Southeast Asia in nineteen eighty. I know in
nineteen eighty the newgen Handbank collapse, collapsed, five million dollars in debt and
Michael Han disappeared unquote, and we know the rest of that story. So
that is a long connection of frequent Issu's lineage his father that leads into what
led to the Nowgan Hand Bank scandalate. Got it? Okay, that's a
backwards, real deep, god fucking connection there. Stuff. It's so ever
ending. Yeah, yeah, yes, that's never ending. So I'm gonna
talk about the person that I want to talk about based on that story I
just said, I'm gonna start bringing in the wilder side of these theories and
allegations, things might get less believable as we progress. Remember that former Vietnam
chief Ted Shackley, That's who I want to focus on next. He was
mentioned for the first time in this episode in the newgan Hanbank Scandal segment.
He joined the military in nineteen forty five as a private and became part of
the Allied occupied for in best basic training, learning, counterintelligence, and recruiting
Polish agents. He apparently posts about Polish very soon after. Shackley was bred
to be a spook as one of the first wave of recruits in CIA history
in nineteen fifty three. From sixty two to sixty five, Shackley was station
chief in Miami, Florida. Can you think of what was happening in Miami
during this time? Drugs nice a little bit, but no. Shack along
with Thomas Kleins, dealt with operations held in Cuba and the Miami CIA station
was called JM Wave, which had more than two hundred CIA officers who then
handled roughly two thousand Cuban agents. A big and popular project Shackley and others
headed was called Operation Mongoose, which served to help Cuban exiles to overthrow the
communist regime in Cuba, primarily Fidel Castro. Quote. During this period as
Miami station chief, Shackley was in charge of about four hundred agents and general
operatives, and his tenure encompassed the Cuban Missile crisis of October nineteen sixty two,
but it kept growing billy. At its height, this jmwave became the
largest CIA station in the world, employing over three thousand agents and operating over
fifty dummy corporations. You may or may not know this, but the Cuban
situation was severely complex. There were so many entities for and mainly against Castro
and from the US government agencies within the US government, Coca Cola and other
businessmen exiled and pissed off Cubans, mafia dons, and many more. Cashoer's
Revolution in nineteen fifty nine resulted in kicking out the mafia from Cuban casinos,
which the CIA used to launder payments to those mobsters. This partnership of the
OSS and CIA with the mafia began with something called Operation Underworld. But I'm
not going to get into that right now, and I heavily digress here.
This show isn't about the Cuban ship storm. My point here is that the
CIA and Mob targeted Cuban leaders for assassination, people like Mafia Do Santos Traficante,
working through Frank Sturgis and Richard Wadley a mercenary. Cuban assassination teams included
Felix Rodriguez, Raphael Kindetto under the supervision of E. Howard Hunt, whose
boss was station chief Theodore Shackley. Look those names up and have fun with
that. By the way, look them up. Here's something cool, and
by cool, I mean horrifyingly believable. Quote. Also alleged to have been
involved in assassination attempts on castro It's doctor John P. Nichols, the administrator,
and the Cabizon Wackenhunt venture, which Danny Cassilero investigated unquote Oh what,
Yeah, he was a spook. We just didn't know what he did.
Shit. Yeah. This Cuban era for Shakley is but a rest stop.
So we're gonna move on here from here. SHACKLEI went to Vietnam, which
I mentioned earlier, was a station chief that wasn't involved in operation Phoenix to
torture and detain viet Cong. In this setting, Shackley worked with people like
Colby, a prominent figure in the Newgan Hand Bank scandal, as well as
many others. Operation Phoenix was run by Shakley and clients, with alleged participation
by Earl W. Bryant in seventy four to seventy five. They were responsible
for killing approximately sixty thousand civilian Vietnamese financed alleged allegedly by Vang Pro drug money.
During his Vietnamese phase, Shacklee met arms dealer and CIA man Edwin Wilson,
becoming close friends. Remember Wilson's the guy who was arrested for selling C
four explosives in the nineties. Sorry, sorry, so doubly fast. I'm
just remembering as I go, So where am I? They were close friends.
Edwin Wilson was deemed to be a member of the octopus by Danny Cassillro
as well. For the sake of time, I'll skip further background involving Vietnam
beyond what I said already and head to the relationship between George Bush and Ted
Shackley, at least a little bit. Quote the career movements of alleged Octopus
member Ted Shackley also illuminate Bush's secret life. From nineteen fifty two to nineteen
fifty nine and nineteen sixty five to nineteen sixty six, Zacklie worked in Germany.
In the nineteen sixty two to sixty four period, he was station chief
in Miami. Shackley became station chief in Saigon and Vietnam from nineteen sixty four
to seventy four and chief of CIA's Far East Division thereafter, while George Bush
served as ambassador to China. After Bush's ascension to CIA director, Shackley was
promoted to Associate Deputy Director of Operations, considered the agency's third most powerful job.
Shakley was put in charge of Central American operations. And we know what
the CIA was up to in Central America. One of those Central American operations
involved Chile. On September eleventh, nineteen seventy three, the Chilean military under
General Augusto Pinochet, aided by the United States and the CIA, staged a
coup against Chilean President Salvadora Yende. You know this? No okay? Officially,
Allende committed suicide as insurgents store the Palace, supposedly because he didn't want
to suffer the humiliation of his aggressors. Is actually quite a quite a movie
scene. Allende was addressing the nation on the radio as they entered, describing
himself in the past tense, knowing he's gonna die one way or the other.
Oh yeah. Unofficially, it is said that Allenda's death was performed by
two Cubans, as other eight assassination attempts occurred simultaneously. Shackley and Klines did
the strategy for this operation, That's how they involved. The reason some people
find it hard to believe that Ayenda committed suicide was because the only people there
to winness the events were the people out to fucking kill him, meaning unreliable
sources and uninterested uninterested in damping them, dampening any effect the CIA and other
insurgencies wanted from this operation. As added bonus and his own admission, John
P. Nichols was involved in the Allenda assassination plot before moving out west to
California, apparently just before Wow. Casilerov wrote the following about Chile quote.
A different, marginally more officious costume was worn in Chile. Since this operation
provided accumulated debt for favors performed. The octopus now mature enough to know how
to collect those debts, What are the favors performed and what was the do
bill unquote. That's not all Ted Shackli has to offer. As the third
most powerful person in the CIA, Shackley was also involved in the Iron Conter
affair, but mainly in the relationship and events leading up to it in Libya
and when Wilson worked for Caadaffi training his air force and provided planes and weapons
and techniques related relating to assassinations and the sabotaged and explosives. This crash course
in violent espionage was reported to Ted Shackli in the seventies. Despite being officially
retired from CIA in the eighties. During the Iron Conter affair, Shackley passed
information from manager of Grabanifar to Oliver North and to people of all sorts.
Even if Shackley didn't gain or did a lot at this time. There's much
more detail and other events I could cover, but once again I must move
on. People like Ted Shackley are fascinating because of how involved they were to
one degree or another in major historical events and they seemingly do it so passively
or indifferently. Take his involvement with Cuba, the Middle East, South America,
and Vietnam with you as important as his relationships with George Bush Senior was.
And how was he tied to senior? Again? He but Senior promoted
him as third placeman when he went Busch oh, the third most powerful person
right in CIA. When he became the director of CIA, he promoted that
guy to the third place post. I see, okay, got it.
And then probably William Casey was second player, who was another octopuse guy.
And then William Casey took over after Bush wanted to be in politics and then
won the election. Well, he became vice president of Ronald Reagan first,
right, and then from there a one presidency yep, which all comment is
in October surprise, because if Brigan didn't win, Bush would never have been
probably president if you go that back that far. Yeah, anyway, now,
oh, okay, this next part is designed to fascinate people that are
into conspiracies like us, and will hopefully serve as something juicy to enjoy amid
the confusing history, lessons and never ending connections. I've said before that Michael
Kinnesshuda was one of the prime sources for Danny Cassilero's research. He showed the
freelance journalists where to find information and who to look into for connections. You
might have asked yourself already why why was Ricineshudo allowed to live since he knew
and has seen so much? There are two reasons for this. One is
that we Canshudo claims to have documents and a tape recording involving prominent octopus figures
implicating themselves in some, if not all, of the shady doings I've mentioned
already in this three part series. The second reason is that his willingness to
tell anyone who asks him questions about everything about everything he saw, makes We're
gonna shoot a kind of a loon, a loon prone to conspiracy gossip.
If he's right about everything, hell even half, then it makes him look
crazy and killing someone like that will make him a martyr, not unlike Casilera.
By the way, these allegations Rickin a Shooter has made is while begintting
into here, well a few of them anyway. For instance, there was
a rumor that the Cabstons belonged to something worldwide called reservation operation that was run
by the Enterprise and Wackenhut on Indian land. The project name was Yellow Lodge.
Have you heard of the Yellow Lodge. It's not super famous. It
is low key, but maybe it's famous enough. I I'm gonna say no,
okay, I never heard of it before. It's either in Yellow Lodge.
It is said that they produced advanced warfare like pathogenic viruses and biological weapons.
Operations ran on Hikadia, Apoculans, Apache Land, Sorry, and other
reservations, including an interesting center called D six located in Dulse, New Mexico.
You know D six. Nobody know those in New Mexico, that's for
sure. Yeah fucking will Yeah. Castilera learned through UFO enthusiasts that this D
six location was the site of a huge underground joint human slash alien base.
Uh other more and more and more. This is what you're waiting for.
I know you have, I know. Let's see where. Other notes of
Danny Castilero mentions MJ twelve, Area fifty one and Pine Gap. What your
face? I mean, I'm not gonna super get into MG twelve and Area
fifty one because we've done this just. Pine Gap supposed to be a top
secret underground base located in Alice Springs, Australia, and has the official name
of Joint Defense Space Research Facility. While rumors of alien activity have existed,
what it's mainly known for is that it served to monitor spy satellites and interception
and the coding of various forms of broadcast communications between foreign powers that were unfriendly
to the US. Quote. Pine Gap was built in nineteen sixty eight,
ostensibly as a means of sharing space program data with the Australians. Opposition to
the base grew as it became clearer that it had more of a prosaic purpose
espionage. A book on this subject and secret Based demonstrated CIA manipulation, which
led to the early end of Australia's Administrator of the Labor Party, Gau Whitman.
This was because he opposed Pine Gap operations. By the way, quote,
one early page of Danny's notes seemingly ties together Area fifty one Pine Gap,
a small Pennsylvania town called Tonoma, and possibly one of its citizens,
someone named Fred Dick, perhaps tracing one of many convoluted dead ends that Danny
traced. The authors of this book dispatched an investigator to Tnoma, Pa in
the notes, but failed to find Dick I know so bad, even after
placing a classified in the classified in the local newspaper, or any indication of
what they may have linked them to to the other, to the mysterious military
basis. Buried in notes written much later, however, were references to Tonapa,
Nevada, near area fifty one. Fred Dick, however, remains a
mystery. Unquote, we were there by Tonapau yep, yep. Anyway,
what do you think that? So? Okay, I was so taken back
where you went right there? So I guess I missed the connection. Oh
way, so cassilero, what was the implication there? So also through we're
canna shoot? Oh he said that there's a there was a theory, not
that he said. He didn't say this is a theory. He said that
this app but we don't know for sure. That Cabistan Band of mission Inions
belonged to something called reservation operation where they use other reservation lands to build weapons,
mainly biological war first stuff. And then one of those was called D
six, and that connects Aliens to the D six was supposedly the dudes say,
what's it called? Yeah, and that's where UFO enthusiasts say that there's
a base there that's human slash alien heavy. And then from there I went
with Pine Gap because it was one of the three places that Cassilla had wrote
and in his notes to research later Pine Gap and I mentioned what they were
an Australian base for espionage. They've put up the leader there. And then
from there I put in the one last thing about Danny's notes, saying the
area fifty one Pine Gap and the small town Tonoma and Fred Dick. At
the end, it's like a little whatever based on what the we should have
told them? Got it? Got it? That's how it connects. Love
it. Yes, here's another one. Here's another rumor slash allegation about Viknaeshudo
or from Konahudo. It is said that in addition to what we already know
of him, he also worked for Lear Aircraft and Reno Nevada. The speculation
that evolved from here is that it immediately ties we can shootout with John Lear,
senior, creator of the Lear Jet, and is someone that UFO conspiracy
theorists claimed to have worked or done research on anti gravity for the government.
The connection here is that Lear Junior, not Senior Junior, who also worked
with his father, had many stories of flying saucers and aliens, even befriending
the infamous Babazar Ooh. Both men would appear in gatherings to tell their stories
to believers. Two other connections are William Cooper and Gordon Novel. Cooper wrote
a book that discusses the JFK assassination, Hairy fifty one and The Elders of
Zion. Novel was supposedly a minor player in both the Kennedy assassination and the
Watergate scandal by his own admission, though people do not believe it. Some
have even suggested that this wild claim about Gordon Novel is a way to distract
from serious and real issues about black project weapons development and governmental gun running.
Prince Vie allegation right there, Yeah, I love it. Yep, that's
probably the shortest one I got here. Let's see here next one. This
next bit is the sweetest in my arsenal, especially for the supernatural current studies.
It involves a little bit of aliens and a lot more into the assassination
of John F. Kennedy. We all know that Kennedy, before his death
wanted to splinter the CIA into a thousand pieces, mainly for the Bay of
Pigs fiasco, but he didn't get the chance obviously. Well. While being
able to fire a CIA old sacred cows like Alan Dulles, the CIA continued
in the shadows of his creators, people like Richard Helms, who became CIA
Directors of the CIA sorry, who became director of the CIA in nineteen sixty
six, and E. Howard Hunt. Hunt is the important connection here because
Cassilero had spoken with him on the phone and believed was not only a CIA
spook, but an octo spook as well. That's what you call them,
octo spooks. I love that term. Octos spook. Yeah, it's great.
Hunt had helped set up the Bayo Pigs, was one of the plumbers
on the Watergate scandal and supposedly was involved in mk ultra. Allegations that Hunt
and a man named Frank Sturgis, another Watergate burglar, were in Dallas on
the day of the assassination. People say that they were the two of the
three hoboes on the railroad tracks behind the motherfucking Grassy Knoll, who were arrested
by Dallas police whoa quote. Mark Lane, one of the earliest critics of
the Warren Commission, documented Hunt's inability to defend himself in court against accusations of
his presence in Dallas in his book Plausible Denial. One of Lane's key witnesses
in that trial, Marita Lorenz, named e Howard Hunt, Frank Sturgis,
Orlando Bosch, Lee, Harvey Oswald, the Noble Brothers, Jerry Patrick Hemming,
and Pedro Diaz Lance as part of a convoy that traveled from Miami to
Dallas for the JFK hit. Quote. There's also a follow up connection between
George Bush and the close associate to Oswald's, George de Mornshield, but that
it's a can of worms I'm not ready to open today. I am purposely
staying away from Bush, to be honest. Now, this next dose of
information is crazy. I'll be quoting the whole chunk here because I cannot reveal
it any better than they did, Okay. Quote Rigano Shudo had his own
intergenerational connection to the UFO lore and his own link to the Kennedy assassination.
His father, Marshall had been a business associate of Fred Christman, a man
involved in the Maury Island incident, one of the earliest UFO incidents to follow
pilot Kenneth Arnold's famed flying discs over Mount Rainier in nineteen forty seven. Arnold
in fact investigated claims by Chrisman and Harold Dahl that Dahl, his son,
his dog, and two others witnessed six saucers as the crew boted in the
Puget Sound along the shore of Maury Island. Dahl's child was burned and his
dog killed when one of the saucers spewed metallic debris on the boat. Chrisman
and Dahl mailed metal fragments of the debris to Amazon's from Amazon Amazing Stories editor
Ray Palmer, who hired Kenneth Arnold himself to investigate. Confused by what he
was hearing from Chrisman and Dahl, Arnold called in two Air Force intelligence officers.
They concluded some interviews, collected some of the debris, and were headed
back home back to home base on A B fifty twenty five when an explosion
on their early morning flight killed them both. The Mourray Island incident was written
off for years as a hoax, but recent research has brought up the possibility
that Chrisman used his possession of the saucer debris as a means to a career
among the spooks. Flying saucer crash retrieval rumors mounted in nineteen forty seven near
the Reconnahudo stopping ground in Tacoma, Washington. The Tacoma News Tribune reported upon
a retrieval by William Guy Banister, the FBI special Agent in charge of the
air area of the time. Banister became famous much later in life when he
shared office space with the Fair Plague for Cuba Community Committee in New Orleans,
possibly employing Lee Harvey Oswald as an agent provocateur. Chrismin too had been connected
to Oswald via a subpoena from the investigation of JFK's death by New Orleans District
Attorney Jim Garrison. Some alleged that Chrismin was one of the three Hoboes photographed
after their arrest in the railroad yard behind the infamous Grassy Knoll on November twenty
second, nineteen sixty three. Chrismin was notably silent about both Maury Island and
JFK. In his nineteen seventy memoir of life in Tacoma entitled Murder of a
City, written under the pseudonym of John Gold, he did have warm comments
about Michael Marshall mcunastudo, however, and recounted that the young Michael had discovered
several electronic bugs at his father's office. A lot going on there, A
lot going on there. So we talked about the Morey Island incident. Yeah.
I don't remember if it was in our extraterrestrial extravagant episodes or what,
but yep, I remember that quite well. The explosion of the airplane and
and these ties to the JFK assassination. I mean that that's just amazing.
And Rick, do you remember a guy Banister? The name sounds so familiar.
He's definitely involved in Operation Mongoose and Shed. Yeah. I see,
yeah. And that now you got Rick and Ashudo's father. So you said
that the multi generational thing. Yes, Rick Shudle's fathers tied into the UFO
side, the Kennedy assassination side. Yep, his son found the bugs in
his office. I mean, Jesus Christ, is this ever end? No?
What you have to understand is that both we going to shootout and chrismin
and were from Tacoma, Washington. Tacoma is a little over an hour away
from Mount Rainier and Maury Island or the Pugey Sound Christmins Twilight Years where we
can to shoot those upbringing. Let me expand a little more on Christmas connection
to Kennedy. It was on October thirty first, nineteen sixty eight, when
a grand jury in New Orleans issued a subpoena for Fred Lee Christmin in connection
to the assassination of JFK. This is the press release, writing by District
Attorney Jim Garrison. Quote. Mister Christmin has been engaged in undercover activity for
a part of the industrial warfare complex for years. His covert, his cover,
sorry, his cover is that of a preacher and a person engaged in
work to help gypsies. Our information indicates that since the early nineteen sixties he
has made many trips to New Orleans and Dallas areas in connection with his undercover
work for that part of the warfare industry. Engage in manufacture of what is
termed in military language a hardware, meaning those weapons to the US government which
are uniquely large and expensive. Mister Christmin is a former employee of the Boeing
Aircraft Company. This in the sense that one defendant in the case is a
former employee of Lockheed Aircraft Company and Los Angeles and Intelligence Terminology. This ordinarily
means that connections still exists, but that the former employee has moved into underground
operation. More often than not, a bad record or evidence indicating that he
has been fired is prepared for the parent company to increase the disassociation between the
two unquote com complicated there, but yeah. Chrismin was deposed in the case
against Clay Shaw, the XCIA businessman. Conspiracy theories believe that Chrismin was one
of the three tramps of homeless people that were arrested by Dallas police, the
other two already covered being E. Howard Hunt and Frank Sturgis quote again.
In nineteen seventy nine, the House select made the assassinations reported that forensic anthropologists
and analyzed and compared the photographs of the three tramps with those of Chrismin,
as well as with photographs of Watergate figures E. Howard Hunt, Frank Sturgis
and two other men. According to the committee, only Chrismin resembled any of
the tramps, but the same committee determined that he was not in dally Plaza
on that day of the assassination. So unquote, Chrismin died of kidney failure
on December tenth, nineteen seventy five. Do you think, I don't know
what to think was Were they the hoboes or I think so? Yeah?
Huh yeah. Okay, Now let's get into a few of the mysterious deaths
that surround the octopus. Okay, it's a lot of that actually. First
off, is Alan Standorff. I mentioned Standoff in the last episode in the
Rigni Shudo segment, and I said, now I'm quoting myself again. A
contact of his by the name of Alan Standorf said he worked at a secret
military electronics listening post in Virginia and managed to supply Cassilera with classified information regarding
the Enslock case. Many stipulate that those papers were among but went missing from
his hotel room when he died. O course, yeah, when Cassi was
murdered or suicide, so yeah or whatever, his papers were missing us.
Right. Standorff definitely had intelligence training through the military in Germany before the classified
position of Vint Hill form in military security installation near Manassa's, Virginia. Apparently
he had quite the job shortly before his death and probably around the time he
got into contact with Stany Casilero. Quote. Standorff supplied Castlera with classified information
and in order to quickly return the materials to avoid detection, Castilero set up
high speed commercial duplicating and collating equipment in room nine hundred at the nearby Hilton
Hotel. On January thirty first, nineteen eighty one, seven months before Castle
was to be found dead, Alan Standorf's body was found on the back floor
of his car at the Washington National Airport. He had been murdered by a
blow to the back of the head. Possibly he was meeting someone at the
airport clandestinely, but we don't know. Doctor Stephen she she he sorry,
shee hi, I don't know of The medical Examiner's report office sorry. Medical
Examiner's office in Northern Virginia said that Standorf's body had no visible wounds and was
found under clothing and luggage in the back of his car. Journalists from twenty
eighteen to from twenty eighteen to twenty twenty one have sent Freedom of Information Act
request onto Martinsburg Police Department about Alan Sturndorff, but received no answer up to
this date. A little background of this for this next ast. According to
Ariban Menashi, the US developed this backdoor to the promised software with the help
of Capisan slash wagonaut US and Israel began looking for a neutral company that they
could use to sell the software to other intelligence services. The company they chose
was called day Game Systems, a computer firm with offices in Guatemala, South
Africa, and Israel publishing mogul Robert Maxwell had taken over Dagam for the purpose
of selling Promise sold to a military regime in Guatemala, for example, quote
even if they travel under a false name. Various characteristics such as height,
hair color, age were fed into roadside terminals, and Promise searched through its
database looking for a common denominator. It would be able to tell an army
commander that a certain dissident who was in the north three days before had caught
a train, then a bus, stayed at a friend's house and was now
on the road under a different name. That's how fighting the system was quote.
Officially, Maxwell's death was ruled as suicide or accidental since he was found
floating in the ocean near his yacht. This was off the Canary Islands.
On November fifth, nineteen ninety one, Spanish authorities concluded that he died of
a heart attack, despite the fact that Maxwell had no history of heart disease.
Later on, forensic specialists who worked on the body found that a perforation
under Maxwell's left ear could have caused by an injection of a lethal substance,
but who knows who knows? There were several speculations as to why anyone wanted
him dead, such as money troubles, business enemies, and inheritance issues.
In reaction in reaction to the octopus, it is said that his usefulness of
selling promise was done and he officially became a loose end. This next series
of hits broke in the San Francisco Chronicle on December thirtieth, nineteen ninety one,
titled Business Murderers Puzzle Cops. This is a connection to the murder of
Fred Alberts in nineteen eighty one. Yes all the way back, Yeah,
the ogks that began this case. The series sorry six months after Albarez was
killed and let's not forget Bolger and Castro, police found the body of Paul
Morasca. He was hogtied by a telephone court noose around his neck and had
strangled slowly as his legs uncurled. Marascue's body was found in his condo in
San Francisco's Telegraph Hill. Three days after that, a sixty three year old
woman named Mary Quick, head of the Women's Auxiliary of American Legion Post five
h nine in Fresno, was killed by a shot to the head as she
approached the Legion hall. Investigators at the time believed that these three murders were
connected. Here's their connections. Marasca was an associate of Michael Wikineshudo and worked
with other confidants in the Cabizon Arms project. He reported that he had the
access coats for offshore counts containing millions of dollars in drug money for covert operations.
Mary Quick's death was seen as a mugging, but a year after her
murder, police learned that we can Shooto claimed the business connection with Quick's nephew,
Brian Weiss. Quote. Police sources told the San Francisco Examiner that Weiss
gave his aunt a bank card with secret account numbers, perhaps the same access
codes that may have led to pal Morasca's murder. According to the police,
she had no connection to any of the Principles and could be trusted. Mary
Quick was to be instructed to give information only to Paul Morasca or Michael Vignashudo.
She was not aware of what the computer card was for and had never
received the car and had never received the card unquote. Within the quote,
Riknaeshudo claimed that Mary Quick's murder was probably trying to recover the card unquote unquote.
Those are two that to us, right, well, reconstrucy right,
Yeah, these associations to Reconshchudo turning up dead give credibility to his wild allegations
a little bit. It does a little more than a little bit of Actually
there are more deaths connected to him. An attorney named Dennis Weiss not Wi.
Heisman was in contact with Danny Casilero and was planning and heading to Tacoma,
Washington to defend Ricaneshudo when in April nineteen ninety one was shot and killed
in his car in Philadelphia. Heisman had plans on visiting a woman about threats
to his client. Quote. Over time, Michael Knashudo lost three lawyers and
an investigator under what could be construed as mysterious circumstances. In February nineteen eighty
seven, Larry Garin, a private investigator conducting inslat connected work for Greek in
Nashudo, was killed in Mason County, Washington. After Iisman's death. In
April nineteen ninety three, another attorney who worked at Riconnashudo, John Crawford,
died suddenly from a heart attack in Tacoma. The deco Poe's body of a
third we can shoot a lawyer, Paul Wilcher, was found in Wilcher's Washington,
DC apartment on June twenty third, nineteen ninety three. Wiltshire had also
had been gunther Russbacher, who claimed to have videotape proof of and sixteen witnesses
to his having flown George W. H. Bush to one of the October
surprise meetings. Quote. Paul Wilcher, I've mentioned on the show before,
is a very interesting figure in the series of conspiracies as well as others,
but I can't get into him today. Wherever there's no four four, don't
get excited, four excited. I'm just not getting into him. Other mysterious
does include Alan Michael May, who died in his home in San Francisco on
June nineteen ninety one. He was a former Nixon campaign aide who we Can
Shooto mentioned four days earlier in an interview about May's involvement in the October Surprise.
The coroner at first reported May's death to be from a heart attack,
but an autopsy revealed the presence of polypharmaceuticals in his body. Then there's Anson
Ng, who was a reporter for the Financial Times in London. He was
doing a story on the wacken Hut security guard Jimmy Hughes on the first episode
and followed him to South America trying to get an interview quote while in Watemala
during July nineteen ninety one, and was murdered by a single bullet to the
chest. His death was ruled as suicide. The Watermelon government was asked to
retrieve in Ng's floppy disks and personal papers regarding his investigation. It did so
and turned them over to the US Intelligence Agency. In a press conference a
few weeks later, Senator Alan Cranston requested that designers be returned, but they
never were. Unquote. Then there's Jonathan Moyle. On March thirty first,
nineteen ninety, Moyle's body was found hanging from a closet rail in his hotel
room in Santiago, Chile. Morel was a British journalist who was researching some
of the same people Danny Cassilero was doing, but from a different angle.
Both deaths were ruled as suicides, and both of their families did not believe
that to be the case. The specific connection both Moral and Cassilero had had
that involved Chile was an arms broker that lived there. Cassilera was looking into
selling of the promised software to an Iraqi intelligence officer, and Moyle, who
was the editor of Defense Helicopter World, was looking into weapon sales to Iraq
by that same broker. On the surface, it was concluded by several people
and articles that both men didn't have enough evidence worth killing for, to which
I say, they obviously did. Yeah. Here's a few quotes. Ah,
sorry, a few others quote. Later, others would begin to develop
lists of significant debts related to the Instack case in much the same way many
began making connections between the deaths of witnesses and others associated to the JA assassination
twenty five years earlier. In addition to the Reconna shooter, lawyers deleasing the
list included Valley de la Hanti, whose knowledge of a DA plan to set
up Reconna shooter in a drug church would have made her an important witness for
him. She disappeared on August eighteenth, nineteen ninety two, but her body
was not discovered until the following April in a ravine in a ravine near Lake
Bay, Washington. Another Reaconda shooter, ally Pete Sanmingen, who was working
to help reconn shoot defend himself from the drug charges, died the following December.
An AMIL clip from the gun he carried mysteriously missing. Barry Kuznik,
a computer engineer who had worked on Promise enhancements, also made the list.
According to one report, Kuznick's enhancement was called Brainstorm, an artificially intelligent program
that applied the prognosticating ability of Promise to individual thought patterns. I don't know
it extends civily allowed Promise to deduce from personality characteristics the potential action of the
person being traced wow As in the Install case, Kushnik apparently has made the
modifications under a government contract that the government failed to pay, attempting to drive
Kusnik into bankruptcy. So unfamiliar, Yes, Kusnik had previously done communications and
intelligence work for Northrop Corporation in the US military. His body had not been
found, and nine months after he was reported missing, family members were unable
to get known business partners to acknowledge even knowing him. Five boxes of his
belongings were found in the lack of facility not found body no. One.
Most interesting of all the mysterious deb's connected to Install, however, was that
of nineteen sixties political activist Abby Hoffman. Hoffman wrote an early piece on the
October Surprise for Playboy magazine, and shortly thereafter was involved in a suspicious automobile
accident. Most regarded his death on April twelfth, nineteen eighty nine, as
the suicide it was reported as cause, perhaps in due to depression he suffered
from the continued pain resulting from that accident. Others, however, suspected foul
play in Hoffman's death, notably David Dellinger. Dellinger sorry a fellow member of
the Chicago Eight. Dellinger's suspicions even led him to attempt to retrieve the coroner's
report for examination, but he was stopped by a threatened court battle. They
quote within the quote, they basically would not allow that to go to court.
Dellinger concluded, But Abby's son Andrew and Abby's first wife, Sheila are
convinced he was killed. Unquote. There's more a lot more, but I'll
stop there. You know, Abbi Hoffman, right, do you know the
whole thing, Chicago seven, the Chicago seven? You see that movie?
I have not. That's where he was famous. Well, the big famous
thing. I know the case. I don't know the intricacies of the case.
How about that? How good? All right? Now? That's that
ends that segment. Essentially a lot of that. It really is a lot
more. His last segments, called the Octopus never ends in conclusion to this
massive series. How the fuck do I end it? There are so many
loose ends that I haven't tied. Some of them I can't because the evidence
or chatter isn't there. But mostly I didn't have time for them. Part
of my original bullet points to research and write about were the Lebanese drug connections
to the octopus, Lester K. Coleman's Affter David, which I mentioned,
William Bradford Reynolds, and Robert Booth Nichols. Nichols I've talked about here and
there, but his role is much bigger. He not, unlike we can
the shoot out, was a small member of the octopus and had spoken with
Cassileerro several times as a source of information. Funny enough, I don't think
Nichols and who can Is should have liked each other, because I found that
each warned the dad in Cassilera about the other, saying he's dangerous and not
to trust his information too much. I cut Robert Booth Nichols out because of
time and length, but that brings up something I should address regarding the octopus.
I will be dipping my sanity back into this well in the future.
Robert Booth Nichols is a perfect subject to tackle later on. Another very interesting
figure is is Paul Wilcher, who talked about a shadow government pulling strings and
other things before he was killed. He's definitely a revisit for me. Remember
the reason the murders of Fred Avareez and Dany Casilero were the first focus was
because of how much spotlight they had. Truthfully, there's dozens of Alvarezes and
Castilero's, but it is their debts that brought many of the investigations, theories
and reporting. Cassilera wasn't the first to suggest that there's this group of nefarious
people working within the halls of our government and in other countries for their own
means and power gathering, only that it is when people started paying attention.
Then there's an x FBI man named Ted Gunderson who became a conspiracy theorist private
detective and was a source for Cherry Seymour. He has a different angle on
this octopus thing, but it might be juicy enough for a standalone episode in
the future. With that, there were a few loose ends I'd rather tie
up before ending the show. First. There's a book called Dark Victory Ronald
Reagan MCA and the Mob by Dan E. Moldea or Moldia. It came
out in nineteen eighty six and it is the first time in publication that the
octopus was mentioned, and is a good chance that Casilera borrowed the idea for
Modea next is summer. We can issue wild allegations that connects two segments in
this series as well as name drops another influential historical figure. Oh yeah,
this is crazy quote. Riconoshudo made the dramatic allegation that William Casey, outside
Council to Wakeenhut, prior to his work in the Reagan administration, had hired
him and Brian in nineteen eighty to facilitate the now infamous October Surprise, in
which the Reagan administration allegedly paid the Iranians not to release American hostages until after
his election. Riconoschudo claimed that he and Brian paid the Iranians forty million dollars
in bribes. The promised software, so Riconosudo said, was Brian's payment for
his participation. Riconoshudo also claimed that he had been instrumental in exposing the Newgan
Hand Banks scandal, that he had met the Jackal, the famed international chur
arrist, and that he had made a tape recording of a clandestine meeting with
William Casey that he was holding as an insurance policy on his life. Unquote.
Whoa right I have and that would be a fun one to cover,
right, That would be a fun one. Right, So there's that he
says that, and I don't know if it's true. So I got on
that it makes some sense that we can shoot those allies were dropping like flies.
While he stayed alive in the Tacoma jail. Cell I couldn't find much
on the jackal connection, which is why I didn't mention it until the end,
as a fun way of illustrating that everything is connected, which reminds me.
Quote in nineteen ninety nine book by the British journalist Gordon Thomas titled Gideon
Spies, The Secret History of the Massad repeated the claims of Ari Benmanashi that
Israelian intelligence created and marketed a trojan horse version of Promise in order to spy
an intelligence ages in other countries. In two thousand and one, the Washington
Times and Fox News each quoted federal law enforcement officials familiar with the briefing former
FBI agent Robert Hanson as claiming that the convicted spy had stolen copies of a
promised derivative for his Soviet KGB handlers. Later reports and studies of Hanson's activities
have not repeated these claims Hanson is a personal touch for me. In high
school, I read a book called The Spy next Door The Extraordinary Life,
Secret Life of Robert Philip Hanson, the most damaging FBI agent in US history,
which is fascinating and makes sense in hindsight that he'd get hold of promise
software to give to his KGB handlers. Have you heard of this guy?
I don't think so. Yeah, it made news. And when the book
came out for sure in early two thousands, and I read in high school
at a perfect time, and they made a movie called Breach furcing Breach.
I haven't, but I'm gonna check it out, as Chris Cooper I want
to say, and Ryan Philippe Philip Anyway. Lastly, is what the octopus
called themselves? Most sources claim that they were called themselves simply the company or
the enterprise. You must understand that there were no business cards or letterheads.
This is a shadowy group of people that worked on word of mouth and associations.
You know that to break into Hollywood you got to know someone that works
in it, right. The same applies to the company, who will probably
say that they didn't me, that they didn't have a name for themselves.
They just did it, did what they wanted. It's who you know that
matters. But also, just like Hollywood, if you're talented enough or make
a big enough splash and are dirty enough, you may get invited in.
I ascribe to the theory that this group of people came about organically and help
each other out through mutual understanding and in favors. I don't believe that they
meet once a decade in some big evil conference. It's small conferences. A
few would meet in bohemian grow for example, while others meet in a board
meeting from a shady organization like BCCI or something else. A James Bond villain
would a mass power to try to take over the world in some flashy manner.
But what the octopus is doing is a more subtle version of it.
They already control the world or as much as they want, but don't care
about showing off. In fact, showing off will get you killed. I
tried my best piecing this thing together into something cohesive. In one way,
this three part series is my magnum opus, and in another way it is
a ball of nonsense with frayed, loose wires sticking out I've decided to go
with a quote to end this series which puts things in Danny Cassilera's perspective about
the Octopus and recaps a little of the central figures quote. Danny Casilera believed
the Octopus responsible for criminal conspiracies which linked formed a virtual history of intelligence double
dealing from nineteen fifty to the present. These events, in Cassilero's view,
included the ousters of US President Richard Nixon, Australian Prime Minister gou Whitlam,
the Shaven and the murders of Chilean President Allende, and of course President John
F. Kennedy. Cassilera saw the Octopus's tentacles entwined throughout the creation of the
Golden Triangle and Latin American drug trade, the Cuban Bay of Pigs debacle,
the October Surprise, the BCCI banking scandal, and, almost as an afterthought,
the theft of promise software. Cassilera found a secret team, a high
cabal of players operating at clandestine parallel government. Identified previously by other writers,
the cabal had operated beyond the control or scrutiny of the elected government, financed
by drug running from Southeast Asia and the Americas. Other researchers tended to see
the octopus as a fog of political crimes ascribed to the alphabet soup of intelligence
agencies, institutions, or even the natural dialectic of the modern terrorist state and
its citizenry. Cassilero's octopus, however, was no grand, unified mega conspiracy
theory. Cassilera believed the crimes could best be identified by linking them to small
network of named individuals that made up his octopus. He outlined their hierarchy and
provided specific detail about their behind the scenes roles in contemporary political history. Casilero
named the people both familiar and unfamiliar to other researchers. He deemed the first
level the first level operatives to be Richard Helms, George Pender, John Phillip
Nichols, and Ray Klein. The second level included Robert Chasin, E.
Howard Hunt, Edwin Wilson, Thomas Kleins, and Ted Shackley. Working backwards
from the promised theft, Castilero saw them a new relationship, a nearly organic
entity that impacted on both past and then current events. I don't even know
what to say, man right it's so involved. It's stupefying, how involved
this thing is, how many players, how many world events, the finances,
the murders, the software. It's literally unbelievable. Yeah, it's it's
it's insane. And the thing is is that too much of it is true,
and there's so much that is true that isn't proven. It's just so
obvious. Then it makes you wonder the things that sound crazier are they also
true because we can't prove it, just like this other stuff that seems more
obvious. I don't know, you know, like where does the lino?
And that's where people like get lost in it, you know, as to
how much of it to take in, But I think I think it's much
easier in this case because so much of it is true. Like, like
I said, even half is already too much. Yeah, from one of
them, from one of them, it's too much. Like it says so
much more about their their brazenly actions. You know, that they can just
do whatever they want, get away with it. You know. I think
that even if half of it's true, we should we should assume that ninety
percent of it this is true and then work our way backwards to disproving them.
I don't think it should be, you know, innocence that they're proved
guilty. I think these guys probably should get the reversal of that where like
it should they're very guilty under the proven innocent. You know, you should
probably do that way. Now. The unfortunate thing, since this thing started
in nineteen fifties with the sacred cows of those old bastards that you know,
got all their glory from World War Two, Let's face it, they're all
mostly dead, yeah, you know, because age is a bitch and we're
all affected by that until they develop something. So we can only affect the
ones that are still alive or still working. And I'm not saying there is
not none of those. There's definitely some of those. But it's like jen
three of that, right, so just third generation of that. So like,
I don't know what they look like, I don't know what they're doing.
You know. The great thing about this conspiracy is that the hindsight of
it is what works is because so many people have already died and have already
come out. So many documents have been un earth and unsealed since the seventies,
sixties, fifties, whatever that we get to reap the rewards. Now,
now we can piece things together more. Right, Now I can say
this and say that with more vindication. If this was in nineteen eighty one,
I couldn't say anything about most of this stuff because it wasn't known,
right or you know, and then it just it sucks, like how much
stuff will thirty years from now reveal about stuff that's been happening this decade.
I have no idea. It's assuming it's still going and assuming they're still as
brazen. I mean, we've seen a lot of examples and a lot of
other things, But do any of them connect to the octopus? Or are
they dead? Did they just die off and that's it and there's just nothing
anymore. Yeah, I don't know. It's hard, very hard, I
don't know, very fun, very hard, You're right, but so incredibly
interesting in what a level of research you put into these three episodes. Man,
thank you. Yeah, and this I'll started with a TikTok from a
TikTok, right, that's right, yep, mm hmm. I'm never going
on TikTok again. That's basically what's what I'm saying. I don't know.
I think with that Oscar to take us home. Mm hmm