WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.280 --> 00:00:06.599 The opinions expressed by Chayo Busquets are supported by his extensive experience as a family 2 00:00:07.000 --> 00:00:12.279 therapist and in the previous analysis of the cases presented here welcome, this is 3 00:00:12.439 --> 00:00:20.320 Chayo Contigo in Joya. We start well, because we are already here in 4 00:00:20.320 --> 00:00:24.280 Chayo Contigo, very smart for this day' s program. Starting week, 5 00:00:24.559 --> 00:00:30.640 hoping wholeheartedly that you will be influencing in the best possible way and as we 6 00:00:30.679 --> 00:00:36.799 had anticipated, today we have our program with our beloved Pedro Sánchez Paz, 7 00:00:37.320 --> 00:00:41.840 our specialist in addictions, a home umbrella. I tell him always joking, 8 00:00:42.439 --> 00:00:47.119 joking that Wednesdays are his, because it' s his segment day and today 9 00:00:47.840 --> 00:00:55.240 I' m going to present him as God sends psycho therapist specialist in the 10 00:00:55.280 --> 00:01:00.600 subject of addictions, with more than twenty- five years of experience working with 11 00:01:00.640 --> 00:01:03.560 addicted patients and with the family of patients. In addition, he has worked 12 00:01:03.640 --> 00:01:11.120 on prevention campaigns for schools, for various social communities, has conducted consultancies in 13 00:01:11.120 --> 00:01:15.079 various rehabilitation clinics in the interior of the Republic and was clinical director in Montefénix, 14 00:01:15.200 --> 00:01:21.079 this well- known clinic, which is a clinic for addictions for alcoholism 15 00:01:21.120 --> 00:01:25.719 and drug addiction. With more than forty years of experience and good, he 16 00:01:25.840 --> 00:01:32.000 gives lectures, lectures, schools, parents, kids. So it is important 17 00:01:32.120 --> 00:01:37.079 to take it into consideration, because it can be extremely useful for them to 18 00:01:37.079 --> 00:01:41.840 have it. That way and so, Peter, welcome. How about miquel 19 00:01:41.959 --> 00:01:46.840 chayo, how are you all in order on this Monday and this, because 20 00:01:47.599 --> 00:01:51.159 ready Monday fifteen, yes, truth, fortnight, fifteen, yes. No 21 00:01:51.239 --> 00:01:53.400 wonder he saw a little spark in your eyes from what I' ll tell 22 00:01:53.400 --> 00:02:00.319 you. That' s my dear Pedro, because today we decided that we 23 00:02:00.319 --> 00:02:05.159 were going to talk about marijuana. We are going to dedicate the entire program 24 00:02:05.200 --> 00:02:12.599 to marijuana, because the young people, particularly the young people, are increasingly 25 00:02:12.639 --> 00:02:17.199 convinced that nothing happens, that it is no problem, that alcohol is much 26 00:02:17.199 --> 00:02:21.319 more problem, that it is much more problem with tobacco, but that with 27 00:02:21.400 --> 00:02:30.000 marijuana nothing happens. So, well, let' s talk about myths and 28 00:02:30.039 --> 00:02:36.080 realities of marijuana. And I' d start, Pedro, by asking you 29 00:02:36.800 --> 00:02:40.800 marijuana, if you' d like to know what other ways marijuana is being 30 00:02:45.000 --> 00:02:46.680 told, yerba this ay they' re leaving me right now. Some but 31 00:02:46.719 --> 00:02:51.360 well, to see pactically dog, churro, et cetera, et cetera, 32 00:02:51.360 --> 00:02:53.159 et cetera, et cetera. But whenever they talk like that, in those 33 00:02:53.240 --> 00:02:58.360 terms they are referring to anabyss marijuana. Yeah, this is all about the 34 00:02:58.639 --> 00:03:02.840 Mari Buana. Perfect. Well, then, to see myths and realities, 35 00:03:04.000 --> 00:03:07.439 Peter, where we begin. Okay. I wanted first to start by saying 36 00:03:07.599 --> 00:03:13.680 that I think that the program was perfectly well suited, since for this coming 37 00:03:13.759 --> 00:03:17.560 Saturday is the four twenty, which is this four hundred twenty, is the 38 00:03:17.840 --> 00:03:23.840 twenty, that it is good, it is a celebration for people who, 39 00:03:23.560 --> 00:03:29.000 with its consumption of substances, is celebrated the day of cultivation and consumption of 40 00:03:29.039 --> 00:03:34.479 marijuana. It' s not a very supportive day. This arises because in 41 00:03:34.719 --> 00:03:39.000 a group of high school youths in California, in nineteen hundred and seventy- 42 00:03:39.560 --> 00:03:44.560 one gathered to smoke marijuana at four twenty in the afternoon, because it was 43 00:03:44.639 --> 00:03:49.360 the time when most of their classmates had already finished their school activities and then 44 00:03:49.879 --> 00:03:54.439 they were too quiet to smoke marijuana. And as far as four hundred and 45 00:03:54.439 --> 00:03:59.759 twenty. There is also the 70th, which is the 10th of July that 46 00:03:59.800 --> 00:04:06.039 is associated with the consumption of hashi marijuana oil. Or because seven ten, 47 00:04:06.360 --> 00:04:11.280 because if you put seven ten, you put it upside down, that is, 48 00:04:11.360 --> 00:04:14.800 you write it down and you put it backwards, because it says hold 49 00:04:14.800 --> 00:04:17.680 that it is oil. So they' re not very creative. These are 50 00:04:17.800 --> 00:04:24.279 really awesome. It is very clear, but very very very creative. And 51 00:04:24.279 --> 00:04:28.240 I' ve missed the question you asked me for talking about it. No 52 00:04:28.240 --> 00:04:31.759 no this told you where we started, because it made realities and you said 53 00:04:31.800 --> 00:04:35.959 good before that. Yes, sign of this that next Saturday is when they 54 00:04:36.040 --> 00:04:41.000 would celebrate. Yeah, and this isn' t foreign to Mexico. There 55 00:04:41.120 --> 00:04:46.120 is indeed one for the people who consume that, a whole holiday and, 56 00:04:46.240 --> 00:04:49.720 obviously, it is also to want to promote in the part of already fully 57 00:04:49.800 --> 00:04:56.399 legalizing the consumption of marijuana in Mexico in a recreational way. I' m 58 00:04:56.439 --> 00:04:59.879 not going to see what I could tell you, let' s go with 59 00:04:59.879 --> 00:05:03.480 myths. You think and we start by saying marijuana is a light drug. 60 00:05:04.199 --> 00:05:08.319 Okay, many times they defend it and tell you that marijuana is a light 61 00:05:08.439 --> 00:05:11.480 drug. Well, I think the first thing we have to say is there 62 00:05:11.600 --> 00:05:15.439 ' s nothing light about marijuana. Marijuana is a drug that generates an important 63 00:05:15.600 --> 00:05:21.480 addiction with also important consequences, especially not exclusively, but above all at the 64 00:05:21.519 --> 00:05:29.759 mental level, at the psychiatric level. It may have important consequences and patients 65 00:05:29.800 --> 00:05:35.240 who may have from a psychotic outbreak to a definite psychotic disorder. Not this 66 00:05:36.560 --> 00:05:42.639 one or present, for example, its early manic phases of bipolar, manic 67 00:05:42.680 --> 00:05:46.079 depressive disorder. It can also generate you then light. In fact it doesn 68 00:05:46.199 --> 00:05:51.199 ' t have absolutely what is said then that it is light, because to 69 00:05:51.199 --> 00:05:55.319 see, for example, the suppression that produces you marijuana is not as clever 70 00:05:55.399 --> 00:05:59.199 as the one that can produce you, alcohol, cocaine, etcetera. It 71 00:05:59.240 --> 00:06:01.879 ' s a little quieter s p ers. If he shows up, even 72 00:06:01.879 --> 00:06:04.199 though there are people who say no. But if it comes up, if 73 00:06:04.199 --> 00:06:10.120 we understand by its pressure, when I stop when, after having consumed it 74 00:06:10.240 --> 00:06:14.279 for a long time or consuming a large amount, I stop consuming it and 75 00:06:14.319 --> 00:06:16.920 in that case it can be presented what is present In the cases of marijuana 76 00:06:16.959 --> 00:06:24.240 users. It' s going to present itself above all at important levels of 77 00:06:24.240 --> 00:06:28.480 anxiety and then anxiety is removed from them with marijuana and again it produces anxiety 78 00:06:28.120 --> 00:06:30.120 and then, that is, we consume it and there it' s already 79 00:06:30.120 --> 00:06:31.560 the roll. That' s like alcohol when I have to heal myself with 80 00:06:31.600 --> 00:06:36.160 a beer, just like it, not exactly the same. This also because 81 00:06:36.240 --> 00:06:42.480 the physical consequences are not as strong or as scandalous as it could be with 82 00:06:42.480 --> 00:06:47.439 him. With other substances, you said it is not light as much as 83 00:06:49.560 --> 00:06:54.319 they say it by its consequences. Not to see. It is true that 84 00:06:54.399 --> 00:06:58.519 not all people who are going to use marijuana are going to present a psychotic 85 00:06:58.639 --> 00:07:00.000 picture or any of this is true. I wouldn' t play it, 86 00:07:01.040 --> 00:07:04.759 not to know if I' m going to do the s what, but 87 00:07:04.800 --> 00:07:09.639 the truth is, yes. It is important to be clear to this part 88 00:07:09.680 --> 00:07:12.240 and also not another. Another myth that is said is that marijuana does you 89 00:07:12.240 --> 00:07:15.040 more harm, that it does you less harm than alcohol, or cigarette, 90 00:07:15.319 --> 00:07:19.560 than tobacco. Not this one, because I would say no there too. 91 00:07:19.800 --> 00:07:23.120 That' s not a reality either. It' s a myth. Not 92 00:07:23.279 --> 00:07:26.279 this one. For example, let' s talk about the cigarette by comparing 93 00:07:26.279 --> 00:07:29.120 it to marijuana. Except we all know that cigars are carcinogenic, because what 94 00:07:29.199 --> 00:07:33.160 marijuana thinks is also carcinogenic. Not that it also has substances that can also 95 00:07:33.199 --> 00:07:39.519 make you cancer. This one. The point is that if someone has seen 96 00:07:39.519 --> 00:07:42.680 a person smoke pure or pipe, for example, how strong is the blow 97 00:07:42.680 --> 00:07:46.160 that one normally gives because you smoke it, leave it in the mouth and 98 00:07:46.160 --> 00:07:49.399 release it later, then not, because it is very strong. He' 99 00:07:49.399 --> 00:07:51.199 s not coming in. He' s not coming in. When he smokes 100 00:07:51.360 --> 00:07:56.839 a cigarette, he breathes a little deeper and then pulls it out. But 101 00:07:56.879 --> 00:08:00.399 when you smoke marijuana, it' s a very, very deep repuration, 102 00:08:00.920 --> 00:08:07.480 and aside, it tries to hold it in your chest. Or what happens 103 00:08:07.600 --> 00:08:11.920 that these substances, which are toxic, are irritating the airways, of course, 104 00:08:11.399 --> 00:08:16.040 and of course, all these harmful substances, because they have more contact 105 00:08:16.480 --> 00:08:20.639 with respiratory organs. Then the risk is very important and very high. So 106 00:08:20.680 --> 00:08:26.079 I think one problem is just trying to normalize the marijuana issue. The kids 107 00:08:26.680 --> 00:08:31.919 are doing a lot, they' re looking for a lot of pages that 108 00:08:33.360 --> 00:08:35.120 are pro- marijuana to want to normalize, to sell it to their parents. 109 00:08:35.600 --> 00:08:39.440 And the problem is that I think that a very important problem with addictions 110 00:08:39.440 --> 00:08:46.679 is the lack of awareness of parents about substances. Then a boy comes in 111 00:08:46.759 --> 00:08:50.399 with these printed sheets not from his computer, and dads are given to read 112 00:08:50.399 --> 00:08:54.399 them, to convince them to let him smoke marijuana, to let him grow 113 00:08:54.480 --> 00:08:58.679 marijuana inside the house, or even that even the dad smoke marijuana with them 114 00:08:58.720 --> 00:09:05.919 or the mom smoke marijuana with them. No yes, it' s true, 115 00:09:05.279 --> 00:09:09.320 why don' t you leave me, why don' t you share 116 00:09:09.480 --> 00:09:11.039 with me so you can see it' s not as harmful as you ask. 117 00:09:11.159 --> 00:09:13.159 You don' t know how to test the little batch and already after 118 00:09:13.200 --> 00:09:16.519 the tests, you tell me no yes, and we' ll even have 119 00:09:16.519 --> 00:09:20.720 a good time together. Yes exactly yes, and it sounds common, especially 120 00:09:20.799 --> 00:09:24.240 for parents you said teenagers have a huge generation gap at the time. Or 121 00:09:24.320 --> 00:09:28.559 it sounds like a wonderful bridge to get in touch with your kids. But 122 00:09:28.639 --> 00:09:31.919 what you' d be doing is becoming an accomplice to your son' s 123 00:09:31.000 --> 00:09:35.159 illness, not even your son' s, but probably his illness. Already 124 00:09:35.960 --> 00:09:39.919 one of the things they argue a lot is that with marijuana you can' 125 00:09:39.960 --> 00:09:41.919 t stay on the trip that' s true? Don' t you? 126 00:09:41.919 --> 00:09:43.440 Don' t you? Don' t you? Don' t you? 127 00:09:43.559 --> 00:09:46.120 Is that right? I told you that good to see for some people who 128 00:09:46.159 --> 00:09:50.159 are marijuana you can have a psychotic outbreak, that is, like a shot 129 00:09:50.320 --> 00:09:56.000 from a psychotic state where you lose contact with your reality. But the person 130 00:09:56.080 --> 00:09:58.639 too can, especially if your history of psychotic broad in one of those, 131 00:10:00.159 --> 00:10:03.519 keep the wires stuck and already have a psychotic disorder and require for life a 132 00:10:03.600 --> 00:10:11.919 psychiatric treatment with antipsychotic. Okay, and the other thing they also say isn 133 00:10:11.960 --> 00:10:15.240 ' t about marijuana. You' ll tell me yes or no. Nothing 134 00:10:15.279 --> 00:10:20.000 more than right now left me when when when you tell him when someone dies 135 00:10:20.080 --> 00:10:24.519 because he got more dope than the envelope two an overdose. Thank you, 136 00:10:24.879 --> 00:10:30.399 my word' s gone. There may be doses of marijuana. There may 137 00:10:30.440 --> 00:10:31.960 be about doses. It' s probably not gonna take you to die, 138 00:10:33.039 --> 00:10:37.320 but yes, for example, we' re going back to having important psychiatric 139 00:10:37.440 --> 00:10:41.200 consequences. And what is also important to mention because I' ve been told, 140 00:10:41.399 --> 00:10:43.960 is that no one has died from marijuana use. Uh- huh. 141 00:10:43.159 --> 00:10:46.759 The truth is that I mean very his The truth is that I believe that 142 00:10:46.799 --> 00:10:48.360 what has happened is that the right studies have not been done to find out 143 00:10:48.440 --> 00:10:52.639 if the person died from marijuana use. Ok not to see marijuana happens with 144 00:10:52.759 --> 00:10:56.799 him as with alcohol. The two are drugs that are central nervous system depressants 145 00:10:56.919 --> 00:11:01.360 and, of course, your reflection is not the same when you' re 146 00:11:01.720 --> 00:11:07.639 driving under the effects of alcohol or marijuana. Then many accidents with fatal consequences 147 00:11:07.679 --> 00:11:11.720 may have been related to marijuana use. But they do our studies. Not 148 00:11:11.919 --> 00:11:16.519 in the case when there is an alcohol accident or the car smells alcohol or 149 00:11:16.519 --> 00:11:20.919 is found in the alcohol bottles, because either the person hoele alcohol, with 150 00:11:20.080 --> 00:11:22.399 the case of marijuana it is a little more difficult and look than marijuana. 151 00:11:22.840 --> 00:11:28.159 It' s quite scandalous because of the smell, the smell, but maybe 152 00:11:28.159 --> 00:11:30.720 I smoked it at a friend' s house. I got in the car. 153 00:11:30.759 --> 00:11:31.639 I didn' t smoke in the car anymore and maybe in the car 154 00:11:31.639 --> 00:11:37.039 won' t smell, but to see the person can bring important amount of 155 00:11:37.120 --> 00:11:43.320 ths in his blood. We' re already continuing with the myths, that 156 00:11:43.399 --> 00:11:48.679 we gather them with the myths, not to see another myth is that marijuana 157 00:11:48.679 --> 00:11:54.279 is less harmful, because it' s natural, because it doesn' t 158 00:11:54.279 --> 00:11:56.840 have chemicals like other substances. Now, it' s true it doesn' 159 00:11:56.879 --> 00:12:01.679 t have chemicals, but well, to see the alcohol comes from the grapes 160 00:12:01.759 --> 00:12:05.600 or the cane or the cocaine, it comes from the leaf of the also 161 00:12:07.200 --> 00:12:13.360 the one of the cocaine silver. So this one doesn' t have any 162 00:12:13.360 --> 00:12:16.440 other chemicals. And I would even say that we should also consider that different 163 00:12:16.440 --> 00:12:20.799 strains of marijuana have been produced recently and that some of these have even been 164 00:12:20.799 --> 00:12:28.320 created already synthetic cannabinoids. Not that you have to be careful of the part 165 00:12:28.360 --> 00:12:31.240 that you see that it has no chemicals and apart that does not imply that 166 00:12:31.279 --> 00:12:35.799 it is not an addictive substance and that it cannot cause significant damage to the 167 00:12:35.840 --> 00:12:39.440 body. No, I think that part would also have to be considered then 168 00:12:39.519 --> 00:12:45.919 there is the part of but this péutic era, that is, it has 169 00:12:46.000 --> 00:12:48.960 an end to heal people, etcetera. A like once a 17- year 170 00:12:48.440 --> 00:12:50.200 - old boy who told me, but it' s therapeutic and I say 171 00:12:50.200 --> 00:12:54.639 yes, but you' re not even sick, I mean, that argument 172 00:12:54.639 --> 00:12:56.320 is not valid. In your case, not to see. Almost all drugs 173 00:12:56.360 --> 00:13:01.440 have also had a therapeutic purpose, i e cocaine, for example, came 174 00:13:01.440 --> 00:13:05.559 to be used as an anesthetic for obstetric operations over time, i e almost 175 00:13:05.679 --> 00:13:11.159 all drugs have been used or for therapeutic purposes, for purposes even sometimes at 176 00:13:11.159 --> 00:13:16.039 the spiritual level, etc. Then this one doesn' t make it any 177 00:13:16.039 --> 00:13:18.360 different. Actually none of this that we see maybe with other drugs not a 178 00:13:18.480 --> 00:13:26.159 patient that at some point I had a young boy said to me okay, 179 00:13:28.279 --> 00:13:31.799 bye I already understood that I don' t have to use marijuana when I 180 00:13:31.840 --> 00:13:35.240 feel sad depressed, decayed and I don' t know how much. But 181 00:13:35.440 --> 00:13:41.639 for pleasant purposes, if I can as if the substance did understand perfect. 182 00:13:41.759 --> 00:13:48.759 Today I am consumed for purposes of plastation, of recreation when I consume it, 183 00:13:50.080 --> 00:13:52.120 because the boy is sad depressed, because as he carries it with his 184 00:13:52.120 --> 00:13:58.120 parents. Not then did I say what curious distinction is made in the mind 185 00:13:58.200 --> 00:14:01.120 of the one who consumes in order to find a reason for consumption. Yes, 186 00:14:01.279 --> 00:14:05.960 and that' s very continuous in addicted people, not marijuana or other 187 00:14:05.039 --> 00:14:07.879 substance, but in this case marijuana, because they fall in love with its 188 00:14:07.919 --> 00:14:13.440 substance very hard. I mean, I think there' s one substance that 189 00:14:13.519 --> 00:14:18.080 ' s very important for the doctor, yes, very seductive is marijuana and 190 00:14:18.080 --> 00:14:20.279 the real person and he' s going to defend it with a cape and 191 00:14:20.279 --> 00:14:24.519 a sword. For me, the most difficult patients are the patients who use 192 00:14:24.559 --> 00:14:28.799 marijuana, definitely, because it is very difficult sometimes to break all these ideas 193 00:14:28.840 --> 00:14:31.440 and beliefs that come to have this, even though the damage is evident. 194 00:14:31.960 --> 00:14:35.159 Sometimes I tell my patients to see your friends with whom they consume, that 195 00:14:35.200 --> 00:14:39.159 they consume a fate that you have not been affected by. No yes, 196 00:14:39.200 --> 00:14:43.399 already, some are already seen as being distracted, like their attention, their 197 00:14:43.440 --> 00:14:46.399 concentration, their memory, etcetera. That' s not gonna happen to me, 198 00:14:46.480 --> 00:14:50.519 it' s not. Not me. What this magical thought is about, 199 00:14:52.279 --> 00:14:54.879 because I think that to see and particularly in teenagers, I think that 200 00:14:54.879 --> 00:15:01.879 part also sometimes a little narcissism of others happens because they are idiots. And 201 00:15:03.000 --> 00:15:05.600 another one' s gonna happen to me. No, no, no, 202 00:15:05.600 --> 00:15:05.600 no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, 203 00:15:05.600 --> 00:15:07.440 no, no, no. Another important part is that the person who 204 00:15:07.519 --> 00:15:13.480 already consumes the substances on a regular basis tends to minimize both the consumption and 205 00:15:13.480 --> 00:15:16.720 the consequences it has brought them. And they believe that it has not brought 206 00:15:16.879 --> 00:15:24.480 so many consequences. Don' t make him what complex you can go back 207 00:15:26.320 --> 00:15:33.320 to, turn this topic around the fascination, because I would almost categorize it 208 00:15:33.320 --> 00:15:37.080 there when I hear the kids defend marijuana. And I think another big question 209 00:15:37.240 --> 00:15:43.240 is because they never say that it does well they say it is less harmful 210 00:15:43.240 --> 00:15:48.440 than and I always ask and why we would have to compete for consuming less 211 00:15:48.559 --> 00:15:50.120 harmful things, because better it doesn' t matter if it' s less 212 00:15:50.120 --> 00:15:54.080 or more. Don' t expose yourself. No, but if there' 213 00:15:54.159 --> 00:15:58.080 s an idolatry for marijuana, you' ve ever seen it throughout your history, 214 00:15:58.399 --> 00:16:03.919 from your experito with some other drug, a situation that' s as 215 00:16:03.919 --> 00:16:07.039 much a defender of not as marijuana. The truth is, they' re 216 00:16:07.080 --> 00:16:10.360 hardly going to talk to you about the advantages it can offer you. Marijuana 217 00:16:10.399 --> 00:16:15.759 helps me relax, it makes me hungry. This is true to see they 218 00:16:15.759 --> 00:16:19.759 are effects that produce you. No or, for example, Ahorita mentioned that 219 00:16:19.799 --> 00:16:23.000 part of it is that I' m depressed and that' s why she 220 00:16:23.000 --> 00:16:27.679 smokes it from the outset to see if you' re adding a substance that 221 00:16:27.679 --> 00:16:30.360 ' s anthron nervous system depressant and you' re depressed, because you' 222 00:16:30.360 --> 00:16:32.519 re not helping yourself. On the contrary, what happens is that their description 223 00:16:32.759 --> 00:16:38.279 is that that' s why they feel depressed. It' s worth it 224 00:16:38.320 --> 00:16:41.559 if they use marijuana and, instead, if they don' t use marijuana, 225 00:16:41.720 --> 00:16:45.799 they care a lot and feel very bad and very negative about all that 226 00:16:45.799 --> 00:16:48.039 feeling. But yes, I don' t know. He scolded my mom 227 00:16:48.080 --> 00:16:52.080 and used marijuana, because my mom' s scolding doesn' t matter anymore. 228 00:16:52.600 --> 00:16:55.320 Instead, if I don' t consume it well, I may be 229 00:16:55.399 --> 00:16:56.639 tormenting myself by my mom' s scolding. No, yeah, okay, 230 00:16:57.840 --> 00:17:06.000 so how the motive starts to work. It doesn' t make consumption very 231 00:17:06.000 --> 00:17:07.240 attractive. Yeah, I' m not gonna care anymore, I' m 232 00:17:07.240 --> 00:17:10.960 not gonna feel guilty anymore. I' m going to slip a little bit 233 00:17:11.000 --> 00:17:12.279 everything that happens in life, which, in fact, is part of the 234 00:17:12.319 --> 00:17:15.119 thing. Yeah, no, yeah, yeah, yeah, totally okay. 235 00:17:17.279 --> 00:17:21.480 And this and if we look at this, it becomes a vicious circle, 236 00:17:21.799 --> 00:17:26.799 not a series of justifications, of explanations that he is buying himself continuously and 237 00:17:26.839 --> 00:17:32.039 that, because he is, he is self- deluding. Give us examples 238 00:17:32.319 --> 00:17:37.960 of everything you hear. I would even dare to ask you what was the 239 00:17:37.039 --> 00:17:41.640 most absurd argument you' ve ever heard of those who even end up laughing 240 00:17:41.640 --> 00:17:45.799 if sometimes it even seemed like they wanted to convince me to give them permission 241 00:17:45.839 --> 00:17:51.000 to get clear. This one I remembered a lot when before the court. 242 00:17:51.920 --> 00:17:56.680 I remembered very much a patient who arrived. They ran an anti- op 243 00:17:56.799 --> 00:18:00.240 test on him. His school was positive. So it' s the argument 244 00:18:00.319 --> 00:18:04.079 he gave was that he didn' t consume it, that he had only 245 00:18:04.599 --> 00:18:07.319 consumed it once because he had gone with his friends and they' re going 246 00:18:07.319 --> 00:18:12.680 to a party. They went down to buy their drinks and there was a 247 00:18:12.720 --> 00:18:18.160 person sitting on the floor smoking marijuana and he said he smokes and he doesn 248 00:18:18.200 --> 00:18:19.480 ' t smoke and he says no, so better if I' m going 249 00:18:19.480 --> 00:18:21.480 to smoke just in case I don' t. And then, but nothing 250 00:18:21.519 --> 00:18:22.240 else, he gave her a little stick and no longer. I mean, 251 00:18:22.839 --> 00:18:26.160 it was everything and that' s why I got positive. And the truth 252 00:18:26.160 --> 00:18:29.960 is, if I told him in front of the family, I said you 253 00:18:29.960 --> 00:18:33.000 know I didn' t. This argument, this marchueque story that if it 254 00:18:33.400 --> 00:18:37.519 is not at all, it does not validate this having hardly of a single 255 00:18:37.599 --> 00:18:41.960 tail, you would have given positive this either. Usually marijuana people know that 256 00:18:42.039 --> 00:18:45.960 nothing else steps on lop no. Then they don' t get violent much 257 00:18:45.960 --> 00:18:52.519 less, but there aren' t many ways that try to justify it, 258 00:18:53.039 --> 00:18:56.160 that try to buy it, sell it to the family. And the problem 259 00:18:56.200 --> 00:19:00.559 is that the family many times if it falls into all of this, not 260 00:19:00.599 --> 00:19:06.039 because of the same, because they don' t get soaked in research about 261 00:19:06.119 --> 00:19:10.160 consumption, what' s really going on. Not this one. There are 262 00:19:10.160 --> 00:19:12.240 many people who even say no, because to see I prefer that he is 263 00:19:12.240 --> 00:19:15.680 smoking marijuana, that they keep getting the others, the other drugs he was 264 00:19:15.799 --> 00:19:19.000 using, not minimizing. It also seems to me that then it is a 265 00:19:19.000 --> 00:19:22.000 light drug. When we get back, it' s not a light drug 266 00:19:22.000 --> 00:19:30.759 at all. Not this marijuana inside all drugs and thinking about these illegal drugs, 267 00:19:30.200 --> 00:19:37.839 this is, like alcohol, a substance that can be consumed rationally throughout 268 00:19:38.119 --> 00:19:49.440 life, that generates addiction in relation to the other stronger drugs. Or I 269 00:19:49.480 --> 00:19:55.440 ' m already doing the same thing that patients who form man do a little 270 00:19:55.440 --> 00:19:57.319 bit, and so am I because I' m already minimizing it a little 271 00:19:57.319 --> 00:20:00.920 bit. Not to see this is that to see I believe that here the 272 00:20:02.039 --> 00:20:04.359 subject is often not the substance itself. Not to see is like for example, 273 00:20:04.400 --> 00:20:07.920 see, the problem is not sugar, the problem is if I' 274 00:20:07.920 --> 00:20:11.480 m diabetic. No, the problem isn' t alcohol. How many people 275 00:20:11.519 --> 00:20:15.599 can drink malcohol moderately. The problem is if I' m an alcoholic and 276 00:20:15.759 --> 00:20:19.119 the same with marijuana. Not to see does not mean that once you smoke 277 00:20:19.160 --> 00:20:23.200 her you are already addicted to marijuana, much less. But let' s 278 00:20:23.279 --> 00:20:26.400 see when you start smoking it in a regular way, when this is already 279 00:20:26.480 --> 00:20:32.119 bringing you consequences and you still consume it. When you start using marijuana to 280 00:20:32.200 --> 00:20:36.680 impact in other areas, then there is a lot of attention to be paid 281 00:20:36.680 --> 00:20:40.000 because it means yes no, that is to say to see that there might 282 00:20:40.000 --> 00:20:44.640 be people who consume it eventually very much must be safe. Yes, but 283 00:20:44.720 --> 00:20:48.319 if you' re already seeing that you' re already becoming dependent, it 284 00:20:48.440 --> 00:20:52.279 ' s time or your family is seeing it, time to ask for help. 285 00:20:52.880 --> 00:21:00.759 Now. One of the things that we don' t consume gives us 286 00:21:00.119 --> 00:21:04.400 some peace of mind is that if I meet someone on the street who' 287 00:21:04.400 --> 00:21:08.000 s drugged but drugged with marijuana, I don' t feel in danger. 288 00:21:08.000 --> 00:21:11.160 If the person is drugged with other substances, I do feel in danger. 289 00:21:11.240 --> 00:21:15.640 If I feel like he can get aggressive, violent or something. That' 290 00:21:15.680 --> 00:21:19.200 s a myth. I think that, in general, people who don' 291 00:21:19.279 --> 00:21:26.000 t consume knowing that a person is drugged and regardless of the substance that got 292 00:21:26.000 --> 00:21:29.359 in, it' s usually going to be very scary, not and usually 293 00:21:29.359 --> 00:21:30.640 it' s going to be very stigmatized and very pointed out. So this 294 00:21:32.400 --> 00:21:34.960 one I think there' s no big difference if it' s marijuana or 295 00:21:36.480 --> 00:21:40.480 if it' s another role to see. I don' t know if 296 00:21:40.480 --> 00:21:41.279 it' s a variant of the same question. I' m repeating the 297 00:21:41.359 --> 00:21:44.200 same question to you in another way. It' s not clear to me. 298 00:21:44.359 --> 00:21:48.920 But a person by marijuana use gets aggressive, can get aggressive or the 299 00:21:48.960 --> 00:21:56.839 other way around as he lowers them and puts them in the very good very 300 00:21:56.920 --> 00:22:00.519 good question. It can be aggressive to a person who sees her as a 301 00:22:00.480 --> 00:22:06.160 faggot I can also produce paranoia and not paranoia. Yeah, there might be 302 00:22:06.200 --> 00:22:08.119 a reaction I mean, yeah, I can make you paranoyola. It' 303 00:22:08.119 --> 00:22:11.799 s very common. Explain to the public the stop Yes, the stop has 304 00:22:11.920 --> 00:22:15.960 felt that there are people who want to hurt you or that there are people 305 00:22:15.000 --> 00:22:19.960 who are conspiring against you OK and want to harm you then defensively. Yes, 306 00:22:21.039 --> 00:22:25.359 I could for a moment react in an aggressive manner, ok, because 307 00:22:25.400 --> 00:22:30.839 of the side effect of marijuana. Wow. And I have a comment here, 308 00:22:30.599 --> 00:22:37.160 Pedro that suddenly among the questions I ask you maybe I imply things that 309 00:22:37.160 --> 00:22:42.519 don' t tell me a radio listen hello doctor I' m hearing very 310 00:22:42.559 --> 00:22:47.359 interesting the topic, but addiction is, addiction be one substance or another. 311 00:22:48.200 --> 00:22:52.960 Yes, of course, of course I do, however, at the risk 312 00:22:52.039 --> 00:23:02.359 that they might misunderstand me again. I understand it as an addiction concept, 313 00:23:03.200 --> 00:23:07.440 but since the impacts, I do imagine there are differences. And it' 314 00:23:07.440 --> 00:23:11.279 s not because again we prefer then consume the mild impact not at all. 315 00:23:11.519 --> 00:23:18.359 They' re all bad substances, but in the impacts there' s no 316 00:23:18.480 --> 00:23:22.160 difference between smoking mota and getting heroin through the vein. No, yes, 317 00:23:22.839 --> 00:23:25.759 there are differences. There aren' t ones to see, there are drugs 318 00:23:25.880 --> 00:23:27.279 that are much more addictive. For example, there are people who tell you 319 00:23:27.279 --> 00:23:30.000 that with heroin, with the first time you got in, you can generate 320 00:23:30.039 --> 00:23:33.839 a dependency. No, I mean, there are drugs that are much more 321 00:23:33.920 --> 00:23:41.319 or much more aggressive. Physically not through the route of administration that can have 322 00:23:41.400 --> 00:23:45.799 a much stronger and more aggressive impact on you. This I, of course, 323 00:23:45.839 --> 00:23:49.039 also agree with what to write this person, because, at the end 324 00:23:49.119 --> 00:23:53.240 of the day, addiction to whatever it is, we are talking about that 325 00:23:53.279 --> 00:23:57.559 it is an important issue and that it will bring consequences for both the consumer, 326 00:23:57.559 --> 00:24:00.799 for as well as for the people around it and that it can have 327 00:24:00.799 --> 00:24:06.000 a very strong impact. But yes, it is true that there are drugs 328 00:24:06.119 --> 00:24:08.079 that are going to have an impact, for example, at the level of 329 00:24:08.160 --> 00:24:12.759 the liver or above all at the level of the liver, because it is 330 00:24:12.839 --> 00:24:18.359 where almost all substances are metabolized. But at the mental level, marijuana has 331 00:24:18.400 --> 00:24:22.799 a very harsh impact and nothing more of these pictures that I' m mentioning 332 00:24:22.880 --> 00:24:26.720 Maybe I' m staying a lot with the psychotic pictures and all of this 333 00:24:26.799 --> 00:24:32.000 but there are problems of attention, memory, concentration, numerical calculation, logical 334 00:24:32.119 --> 00:24:37.279 thinking. Marijuana, at some point in time, produces something called motivational syndrome. 335 00:24:38.440 --> 00:24:42.480 The person begins to lose motivations in different aspects of his life, loses 336 00:24:42.519 --> 00:24:48.519 motivation for school, for work, for the bride, for the same sex 337 00:24:48.599 --> 00:24:52.759 can even lose motivation for his personal arrangement, for his personal toilet, that 338 00:24:52.799 --> 00:24:57.039 is to say that it has a strong impact. Of course I do. 339 00:24:57.160 --> 00:25:00.880 No. I think no, no, it is not the idea of selling, 340 00:25:00.240 --> 00:25:04.960 which is a substance, it is by no means less aggressive or harmful 341 00:25:04.960 --> 00:25:10.559 than other substances, all drugs, all in all addictions, also in due 342 00:25:10.680 --> 00:25:15.480 course we will mention it. But there are no healthy addictions to work or 343 00:25:15.519 --> 00:25:19.039 exercise at all. When you' re already talking about an addiction, this 344 00:25:19.119 --> 00:25:23.440 is also indicating that you' re losing a balance in your life, that 345 00:25:23.519 --> 00:25:27.279 you' re neglecting certain areas that are important because of the activity or the 346 00:25:27.319 --> 00:25:30.559 consumption of a substance and clear that it does have a very strong impact. 347 00:25:30.960 --> 00:25:37.000 So keep it up. That' s good to see. I think one 348 00:25:37.039 --> 00:25:42.119 thing that is also important is being able to identify. There are three types 349 00:25:42.119 --> 00:25:48.119 of marijuana and it also depends on this a little bit of the effect that 350 00:25:48.200 --> 00:25:49.799 each of them can have. We have one that is very well known, 351 00:25:49.960 --> 00:25:56.000 which is satibac, that this is a marijuana that produces climates that are normally 352 00:25:56.079 --> 00:26:00.519 hot and the effects are going to be a little like generating energy, it 353 00:26:00.599 --> 00:26:06.480 generates a little stimulation ah look, unlike what is associated with the Laterary of 354 00:26:06.519 --> 00:26:08.000 what you have, and it may be that at the beginning and then, 355 00:26:08.079 --> 00:26:11.279 if you already, then relax, or then we have the indication that it 356 00:26:11.440 --> 00:26:18.279 is the opposite. It is planted in climates that are rather cold and this 357 00:26:18.400 --> 00:26:23.160 does have more relaxing and sedative effects. And then we have the ruderalis, 358 00:26:23.720 --> 00:26:30.000 which is normally also grown in cold regions and has the ability to autoflower, 359 00:26:30.000 --> 00:26:33.519 which means that forgiveness will be cultivated, it will flourish regardless of sunlight. 360 00:26:37.880 --> 00:26:41.000 In other words, it is usually used a lot to create a new base 361 00:26:41.200 --> 00:26:45.920 for strains by combining them with drugs, with the other two types. Not 362 00:26:47.359 --> 00:26:51.680 then does he mention this, because it is also true that some marijuana can 363 00:26:51.759 --> 00:26:56.240 have a certain effect on you, one that is totally different. You don 364 00:26:56.720 --> 00:27:03.000 ' t already hear what you' ve seen, oh forgive me thank you 365 00:27:03.039 --> 00:27:06.200 for what you' ve seen in your consultation here, in Mexico City, 366 00:27:06.839 --> 00:27:11.559 metropolitan area and so on. You can identify more what kind of marijuana you 367 00:27:11.599 --> 00:27:15.920 get here in town. It is not the one to which the young people 368 00:27:15.920 --> 00:27:18.599 are most exposed, because they are the first two, not the Arctic ones 369 00:27:18.640 --> 00:27:22.279 and I think they are the most common ones. Evidently, we live in 370 00:27:22.319 --> 00:27:27.519 a hot climate, so the satirical ones are even easier to buy. No. 371 00:27:27.880 --> 00:27:32.559 And the other important part is, because dads pay a lot of attention, 372 00:27:32.720 --> 00:27:37.319 not to see marijuana. Unfortunately, it' s like very easy to 373 00:27:37.400 --> 00:27:40.720 detect because it' s very smelly. It' s very characteristic of a 374 00:27:40.920 --> 00:27:44.759 person who once smelled like marijuana. He' s gonna identify that smell. 375 00:27:44.880 --> 00:27:48.599 The smell is always very scandalous. But let' s also see the marijuana 376 00:27:48.599 --> 00:27:51.799 users, because they' re going to try to take care of all this. 377 00:27:51.880 --> 00:27:55.640 Not because of the smell of the eyes, simulate it, yes, 378 00:27:55.839 --> 00:28:00.319 see if you see if you are finding at all times quotas of these to 379 00:28:00.359 --> 00:28:03.279 remove the red from your eyes, because it is for something it is not, 380 00:28:03.000 --> 00:28:06.480 it is not the environmental contingency. And the smell of marijuana is when 381 00:28:06.640 --> 00:28:11.440 it' s on, it' s the cigarette. Even marijuana smells when 382 00:28:11.720 --> 00:28:14.480 it' s not on, when it' s dry. It' s 383 00:28:14.559 --> 00:28:17.000 no longer a value. It' s very characteristic. I mean, a 384 00:28:17.119 --> 00:28:21.240 mom who' s fixing her son' s room opens a drawer for him 385 00:28:21.240 --> 00:28:23.319 and can smell him. Marijuana can find a bag and say ay looks oregano 386 00:28:23.400 --> 00:28:26.440 smell it and you' ll see it doesn' t smell like Ear. 387 00:28:26.720 --> 00:28:30.519 No, not to see how it smells. I can' t explain it 388 00:28:30.559 --> 00:28:33.400 very well because it' s no. No. No, they didn' 389 00:28:33.519 --> 00:28:37.759 t say it smells like,' cause I can' t identify. I 390 00:28:37.799 --> 00:28:41.920 mean, I can' t say like what. Unfortunately, I have the 391 00:28:42.000 --> 00:28:48.119 clear smell, because I have these little neighbors who live alone, who study 392 00:28:48.359 --> 00:28:52.640 in Mexico and what. Such and good in the evenings, when I climb 393 00:28:52.680 --> 00:28:56.359 up the stairs, I say oh, my God here, here we are 394 00:28:56.400 --> 00:29:00.119 active and the parents very quiet in their house. No, yes, but 395 00:29:00.160 --> 00:29:03.839 the smell is very expensive, yes, it is very characteristic, since they 396 00:29:03.960 --> 00:29:07.599 tell you that, what smells is marijuana, you already detect it wherever you 397 00:29:07.640 --> 00:29:11.200 are. Yeah, yeah. This one. On the other hand, I 398 00:29:11.240 --> 00:29:15.079 was telling you a little bit to see what the red eyes look like, 399 00:29:15.319 --> 00:29:17.160 not that right now. The kids are also selling a lot. Not that 400 00:29:17.200 --> 00:29:22.279 you didn' t smoke, that the contamination is not sleeping well and parents 401 00:29:22.359 --> 00:29:27.039 sometimes buy it all. No, yes, yes, there are also parents 402 00:29:27.079 --> 00:29:30.319 who then tell you to see I smoked when I was a kid and then 403 00:29:30.440 --> 00:29:33.119 no, two three, yes, nothing will happen to me. He' 404 00:29:33.119 --> 00:29:37.240 s experimenting. Evaluate that, he' s experimenting, because maybe the kid 405 00:29:37.279 --> 00:29:40.519 ' s already smoking a lot longer than you have, you imagine. And 406 00:29:40.599 --> 00:29:45.599 well, I think we need to give tips. And this is a challenge, 407 00:29:47.720 --> 00:29:52.680 because you don' t sound like dads. But come on, yeah, 408 00:29:52.759 --> 00:29:57.000 we need no, but yeah, we need this to put overboard. 409 00:29:57.359 --> 00:30:02.279 Yeah, me first. I think I' d say first with the parents 410 00:30:02.359 --> 00:30:07.279 in question about what I' ve already mentioned, but I think I' 411 00:30:07.359 --> 00:30:10.160 d start soaking up a little bit more on the subject of addictions, looking 412 00:30:10.160 --> 00:30:12.240 for information. There' s a lot of information. This says we have 413 00:30:12.240 --> 00:30:15.640 right now in the wonder of the Internet. We also need to review which 414 00:30:15.599 --> 00:30:18.240 pages have to be consulted, because there are also some that can also give 415 00:30:18.279 --> 00:30:22.640 us very confusing information. But I think I do get to know a little 416 00:30:22.680 --> 00:30:26.400 bit more about what drugs are, particularly in this case of marijuana two, 417 00:30:26.559 --> 00:30:30.599 not normalize it. No, no, because then you fight sonygas. It 418 00:30:30.599 --> 00:30:33.559 ' s just that everybody does it, it' s just that so- 419 00:30:33.559 --> 00:30:34.559 so- so does it. I mean, that' ll happen in other 420 00:30:34.640 --> 00:30:40.880 houses. This must not be happening in my house. Not being very attentive 421 00:30:40.880 --> 00:30:45.160 to the first signs that can appear in question of consumption, as it can 422 00:30:45.200 --> 00:30:48.359 be, because changes in habits, such as sleep, appetite, is sometimes 423 00:30:48.359 --> 00:30:55.680 not even changes of friendships. And I' m not talking about them being 424 00:30:55.720 --> 00:30:59.319 mean to people. Simply the person can have a very important change in his 425 00:30:59.559 --> 00:31:03.160 personality for the kids, I think something is also important or work also with 426 00:31:03.200 --> 00:31:07.759 the kids, the subject of assertiveness, being able to say no without fear 427 00:31:07.759 --> 00:31:12.880 to what may be the consequence that this may have in question of rejection, 428 00:31:12.880 --> 00:31:17.880 for example, of some social groups, things like opening up a totally frank 429 00:31:17.880 --> 00:31:23.640 and clear communication within the family. I say that sometimes communication has to have 430 00:31:23.720 --> 00:31:30.599 three aspects, that it must be an assertive, effective and affective communication not 431 00:31:30.680 --> 00:31:33.759 to talk about our emotions and how I am feeling that the person can talk 432 00:31:33.799 --> 00:31:40.319 about what he is experiencing, the emotions he is experiencing without being judged, 433 00:31:41.039 --> 00:31:45.680 let alone that he can say things say that emotion that I don' t 434 00:31:45.720 --> 00:31:48.200 know about which one doesn' t talk becomes a symptom. And the symptom 435 00:31:48.240 --> 00:31:52.359 can be depression, it can be anxiety, it can be alcohol consumption, 436 00:31:52.799 --> 00:31:56.000 drug use, etcetera. And, of course, the issue of self- 437 00:31:56.000 --> 00:32:00.920 esteem as well. In the chavo we are starting that the population now most 438 00:32:00.000 --> 00:32:04.480 at risk, obviously, to start using drugs, particularly marijuana. You' 439 00:32:04.480 --> 00:32:08.000 re going to be the easiest drug they can offer you illegal is going to 440 00:32:08.079 --> 00:32:13.559 be a teenage population. Waiting for the self- esteem issue in them too 441 00:32:13.640 --> 00:32:15.799 doesn' t it, certainly? Is that a whole thing, no doubt? 442 00:32:16.119 --> 00:32:20.440 It is a whole subject, a subject that we will surely not leave 443 00:32:20.440 --> 00:32:27.160 in our Wednesday segments. But how well played so deep in correctness talking only 444 00:32:27.279 --> 00:32:30.599 about marijuana, because it gives us a very clear idea and knowledge and I 445 00:32:30.680 --> 00:32:38.960 would strongly endorse the idea that You propose that you cannot allow your children to 446 00:32:39.000 --> 00:32:44.000 know more about drugs than you, that is, the parents, have the 447 00:32:44.079 --> 00:32:47.200 obligation to soak up these issues, to know that they can' t tease 448 00:32:47.279 --> 00:32:52.279 you with a passer- by response and you ah ok or so it is, 449 00:32:52.640 --> 00:32:54.720 or, that' s what you' re there, it' s 450 00:32:54.720 --> 00:32:59.640 not like you said it' s oregano. Not this barbarity. We don 451 00:32:59.759 --> 00:33:02.759 ' t have to get in. We have to get in, Peter, 452 00:33:04.079 --> 00:33:07.920 how they can get in touch with you yes, it can be through Whatsapp, 453 00:33:08.559 --> 00:33:13.640 the number fifty- five, eighty- five, thirty- four, 454 00:33:13.839 --> 00:33:17.440 twenty- two, six, two or the Facebook page. Yes, it 455 00:33:17.480 --> 00:33:20.559 ' s emotional health. That' s right, that' s right. 456 00:33:20.599 --> 00:33:23.359 That way you can get in touch with him if you have any questions, 457 00:33:23.720 --> 00:33:29.720 questions, questions, send him a whatsapp and have a little patience, because 458 00:33:29.799 --> 00:33:31.680 he' s giving consultation all the time. You do us the great favor 459 00:33:31.720 --> 00:33:37.279 of coming and taking this getaway here to be with us. But it is 460 00:33:37.319 --> 00:33:43.799 certainly very worthwhile to take, take clear measures and learn from these issues. 461 00:33:44.759 --> 00:33:46.319 I thank you in the soul, as there is always nothing to thank. 462 00:33:46.319 --> 00:33:52.000 Happy to be here with you. I thank you so much and we hear 463 00:33:58.279 --> 00:33:59.039 each other tomorrow Audio center,