1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:04,960 And joining us a live in studio. She is at the news desk Kate 2 00:00:05,000 --> 00:00:10,199 Shimkey of Darlene Hill. Hello, Hello, welcome to the show. Thank 3 00:00:10,240 --> 00:00:12,919 you, thank you for having me. Absolutely, we were just playing, 4 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:17,039 uh, coming back from the break there. We played break free, one 5 00:00:17,039 --> 00:00:21,839 of the amazing songs that you sent and and that's from your Is that from 6 00:00:21,839 --> 00:00:25,679 your most recent EP? It's actually from my only EP. It's my debut 7 00:00:26,079 --> 00:00:29,679 debut EP. Oh, very good, very kind of like a sampler. 8 00:00:29,760 --> 00:00:34,200 It's not really all that cohesive necessarily, but that's because I just kind of 9 00:00:34,560 --> 00:00:38,119 flew by the seat of my pants. I got you in the studio. 10 00:00:39,359 --> 00:00:42,280 Yeah, that's a and that's a that's a long song. I love how 11 00:00:42,280 --> 00:00:48,200 it builds really good. Yeah. Jay Bellow of course from the band Chasing 12 00:00:48,240 --> 00:00:50,920 the Devil. In the chat room, he says, great tune, Kate, 13 00:00:51,759 --> 00:00:56,320 you let's see. Also, yeah, you've been getting some love in 14 00:00:56,359 --> 00:01:00,479 there while that was playing. Trying to back Oh. J Fad from Vermont 15 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:04,079 s as I dig this song. Yeah. Isaac Banks from Greensboro, North 16 00:01:04,120 --> 00:01:07,359 Carolina says, awesome song, getting a lot of love in there, so 17 00:01:07,680 --> 00:01:12,120 very good, very good. It's probably my most cathartic song. I kind 18 00:01:12,120 --> 00:01:15,799 of went in there with no agenda, but that song I didn't want to 19 00:01:15,879 --> 00:01:19,000 like edit too much with it. I knew it was long. I knew 20 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:22,799 it was going to be real dramatic and theatrical, and I just didn't care. 21 00:01:23,159 --> 00:01:25,640 Yeah, So it was like, this song's really long, and I'm 22 00:01:25,680 --> 00:01:26,640 like, I'm not interested, you know, because a lot of when I 23 00:01:26,680 --> 00:01:30,480 went in there, a lot of the songs were I didn't really know what 24 00:01:30,519 --> 00:01:33,120 I was doing, to be honest, And that one though, I knew 25 00:01:33,239 --> 00:01:34,599 for sure that I wasn't going to cut back, you know, if anything 26 00:01:34,680 --> 00:01:38,239 was going to add more. So it's kind of the experience's almost like two 27 00:01:38,319 --> 00:01:41,439 songs in one, okay. You know. There's like this intro and then 28 00:01:41,640 --> 00:01:45,439 this like epic build, like you said it just it starts really seople and 29 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:51,879 then ends with this basically Caylin Chase screaming. So yeah, DJ Seves in 30 00:01:51,920 --> 00:01:56,159 the chat room from Retrospectrum Radio and he says, good afternoon, Matt, 31 00:01:56,319 --> 00:02:00,920 great song, and yep, you're getting a lot of support. Hello to 32 00:02:00,239 --> 00:02:04,120 Lee Renski. That's a new name in there. I don't know if that's 33 00:02:04,239 --> 00:02:07,520 a fan of yours. No, I actually I'm fairly new, so this 34 00:02:07,639 --> 00:02:13,039 is kind of like my first time really being exposed. Oh, very good, 35 00:02:13,319 --> 00:02:15,000 very good. I'm on all streaming platforms, but like, unless people 36 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:17,919 don't know you exist, you know, so please all these people, please 37 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:22,199 please subscribe. You know, I'm on Spotify, TikTok, all the streaming 38 00:02:22,240 --> 00:02:25,599 platforms. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Do you want to tell us more 39 00:02:25,599 --> 00:02:30,360 about that song break Free? I read a little bit in your bio on 40 00:02:30,439 --> 00:02:32,280 the OAH side, but sure, it's it's you know, it's probably the 41 00:02:32,280 --> 00:02:36,319 most how do I put it in a nutshell, you know, so to 42 00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:39,759 speak. Basically, if you listen to it, you can kind of, 43 00:02:39,960 --> 00:02:45,759 you know, get the vibe. But about let's say nine years ago, 44 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:51,840 I moved back home from Maryland and experienced just a real bad thing. You 45 00:02:51,879 --> 00:02:53,960 know. It was just like one bad thing after another. It was just 46 00:02:53,039 --> 00:02:55,319 all the bad things that could happen, as somebody happened to me in like 47 00:02:55,360 --> 00:02:59,759 a month. Yeah, you know, Yeah, so I was really broken 48 00:02:59,800 --> 00:03:04,000 down. I was an alcoholic, I was arthritic, I was newly divorced, 49 00:03:04,039 --> 00:03:07,479 I was on a rebound with the real abusive guy, and my dad 50 00:03:07,560 --> 00:03:09,840 was passing away from cancer. So it was just like I was literally in 51 00:03:09,840 --> 00:03:13,120 the gutter. I was in that moment. That's a lot now, and 52 00:03:13,159 --> 00:03:15,719 some of it was brought on by my own alcoholism. Some of it I 53 00:03:15,879 --> 00:03:21,960 was just in the wrong place at the wrong time. But basically the reason 54 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:24,599 why my name is Darling Hills because I experienced an assault on that road. 55 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:30,319 But I actually also live on that road now. And so when I was 56 00:03:30,360 --> 00:03:36,520 healing after this traumatic assault, I decided to put down the bottle and pick 57 00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:40,000 up an instrument, yeah, and decided to start my life over. I 58 00:03:40,039 --> 00:03:45,840 had a lot of support, and so I just started playing music and just 59 00:03:45,919 --> 00:03:50,919 really becoming obsessed and addicted to that. And I ended up writing this song 60 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:55,800 you know about my history with my father and stilling me self love and courage 61 00:03:55,800 --> 00:04:00,120 and empowerment, and you know, just warning me of all the things in 62 00:04:00,159 --> 00:04:02,919 the world that you can encounter that are dangerous, but to hold true to 63 00:04:02,960 --> 00:04:09,319 yourself. And it ends with this moment of breaking. I broke free from 64 00:04:09,319 --> 00:04:12,599 those chains. Basically I broke free from the alcoholis that I broke free from 65 00:04:12,599 --> 00:04:15,759 the abuse. I broke free from from all of that. And now I 66 00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:18,639 live on the other end of the street on Darling Hill, and I live 67 00:04:18,639 --> 00:04:21,480 in a little cabin in the woods, and that's where I fostered my music. 68 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:25,920 That's all I fostered my art. So now every day I wake up 69 00:04:25,959 --> 00:04:29,120 and go and leave the house, I see the place where I really hurt. 70 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:30,680 But I ask to see the place I heal right, right, wow, 71 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:34,839 this song is very cathartic. When I brought it to the studio, 72 00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:39,639 That's why I was so hell bent on it being just left alone and just 73 00:04:39,680 --> 00:04:43,959 see what manifests around it. So the producer in the studio knew, he 74 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:47,240 knew exactly what I was putting down and helped me create that environment in that 75 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:51,000 vibe. So that that was the first That was the first song you recorded 76 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:55,480 for the EP, or actually the first song I recorded was Quiver. Okay, 77 00:04:55,839 --> 00:04:58,959 I went to Nashville twice. So I went to Nashville. My girlfriend, 78 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:03,000 who is a fabulous agent for a Granite State Blue Society and a booking 79 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:06,439 age, a booking agent for blues pros. But she's she works for blues 80 00:05:08,120 --> 00:05:11,279 musicians and I'm not blues. But she was like the lantern in the dark 81 00:05:11,319 --> 00:05:13,519 for me. She knew. She's like, look, I know these people 82 00:05:13,519 --> 00:05:15,959 in Nashville go to Nashville, just try it on, and I went. 83 00:05:16,160 --> 00:05:20,480 I went down there and the producer squeezed me in and I did Quiver and 84 00:05:20,680 --> 00:05:25,399 Garden of Crowns. And Quiver really lit me up though, because I put 85 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:28,879 down the acoustics. You know, I still play guitar. You can hear 86 00:05:28,879 --> 00:05:31,560 me in the back. But I really wanted to dabble with like the buttons 87 00:05:31,560 --> 00:05:35,279 and the knobs and the synth and like all the samples and get out of 88 00:05:35,279 --> 00:05:40,279 that folk rut. Because as much as I love folk music, really I 89 00:05:40,319 --> 00:05:44,720 grew up with it. Like I really wanted to break free of that and 90 00:05:45,079 --> 00:05:46,600 find my own voice. So like people are always asking me, what's your 91 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:48,480 genre, and I'm like, I don't really know yet. But when I 92 00:05:48,519 --> 00:05:53,279 went to Nashville and sat next to a producer who could pull those sounds out 93 00:05:53,319 --> 00:05:56,199 of me and create them, That's when I got really excited. So I 94 00:05:56,199 --> 00:06:00,240 went back and finished spent about eight days studio and finished up the other tracks. 95 00:06:00,319 --> 00:06:04,959 Oh very cool. Yeah. Our guest yesterday, Dakota Smart, also 96 00:06:05,079 --> 00:06:08,680 recorded in nash I watched him yesterday. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's 97 00:06:08,720 --> 00:06:13,360 amazing. Yeah, what five nominee? Oh? What the New England Music 98 00:06:13,439 --> 00:06:16,319 Wars yeah, five time nominee. Yeah, yeah, yeah, just amazing. 99 00:06:16,399 --> 00:06:18,879 Yeah, what a voice on that guy. Nashville's magic. You know, 100 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:24,800 there's something about going down there that that my life is different now that 101 00:06:24,839 --> 00:06:27,199 I've been back here. Yeah, you know, I've been immersed in the 102 00:06:27,199 --> 00:06:30,360 local music scene at the probably the most local level I could, and I 103 00:06:30,399 --> 00:06:32,959 was just itching for something else. And when I went to Nashville and gotten 104 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:36,160 the I didn't even care about anything outside the studio. There's a lot of 105 00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:41,560 cool stuff like John and June Cash were buried down the street, like I 106 00:06:41,600 --> 00:06:44,879 was really close. Yeah, so the music history, but all I wanted 107 00:06:44,879 --> 00:06:48,240 to do was just be in the studio and create. Yeah, Miriam banishing 108 00:06:48,319 --> 00:06:51,319 the chat room says amazing music. She has a beautiful voice, thank you. 109 00:06:53,839 --> 00:06:58,000 Yeah. It's funny too, because some people, I assume, still 110 00:06:58,040 --> 00:07:00,000 have kind of this idea that, oh, Nashville, that's all about country 111 00:07:00,079 --> 00:07:02,480 music, and it's like, no, it's all kinds of music being made 112 00:07:02,519 --> 00:07:06,160 there. And that's what I thought too. I thought the same thing. 113 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:10,800 And then the more and more I started meeting local musicians, you know, 114 00:07:10,879 --> 00:07:12,800 some of them are coming back from Nashville, I'm like, wow, I 115 00:07:12,839 --> 00:07:15,240 thought you would have to go to New York, Boston, LA. But 116 00:07:15,360 --> 00:07:17,199 I guess from what I'm hearing, there was was like this mass exodus from 117 00:07:17,360 --> 00:07:20,759 LA of producers to Nashville. They just just I don't know what happened, 118 00:07:20,759 --> 00:07:25,680 but a lot of people came to Nashville. And it is a little surreal 119 00:07:25,759 --> 00:07:31,480 because there's like really iconic musicians just walking around everywhere. Yeah, it's like 120 00:07:31,519 --> 00:07:33,800 I had to pinch myself. I'm like, I had to remind myself where 121 00:07:33,800 --> 00:07:36,120 I was. I was like, wow, they're just like hanging out like, 122 00:07:36,720 --> 00:07:40,040 you know, like it was just wild. It was really wild. 123 00:07:40,120 --> 00:07:43,160 Did you have a chance to get on a stage anywhere while you were there? 124 00:07:43,240 --> 00:07:45,360 No? But I got to see some shows, you know, because 125 00:07:45,399 --> 00:07:48,240 I went with friends who know the scene. I went to a couple really 126 00:07:48,279 --> 00:07:53,399 cool, like low key places to see some like Leroy Powell was one at 127 00:07:53,399 --> 00:07:56,120 the Underdog, the five Spot. There are all these cool, you know, 128 00:07:56,160 --> 00:07:58,879 local joints you could go do in like everywhere you go to. Music's 129 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:01,360 great. Yeah, but no, I didn't get on the stage. Yeah. 130 00:08:01,439 --> 00:08:05,720 Yeah, I don't even think I knew what I was even doing in 131 00:08:05,720 --> 00:08:09,399 the studio at that point. Yeah. Now I'd like to yeah, so 132 00:08:09,399 --> 00:08:11,800 so part of the EP was recorded there. Oh the Holy p was down 133 00:08:11,839 --> 00:08:15,000 there. I don't get it into different. I did it in two trips. 134 00:08:15,120 --> 00:08:18,079 Oh I gotcha. Okay, okay, cool? Cool? And when 135 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:20,759 did this come I think you said already? But when did this come out? 136 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:24,480 I believe I dropped it in August? Oh okay, so not that 137 00:08:24,560 --> 00:08:28,639 long ago? This is? This is so you hadn't released anything prior to 138 00:08:28,680 --> 00:08:33,480 this? Correct? Wow? Yeah, I've recorded, and I've played gigs, 139 00:08:33,559 --> 00:08:39,120 you know, like bars and coffeehouses and small events. But yeah, 140 00:08:39,240 --> 00:08:41,320 not really. I don't really have like a big band. You know. 141 00:08:41,360 --> 00:08:43,360 That's the thing. So that's the thing you go in too. I go 142 00:08:43,399 --> 00:08:48,840 to Nashville and I have this epic experience working with very qualified people in industry, 143 00:08:48,879 --> 00:08:52,799 Like the supporting musicians on that album are top notch, Like I I 144 00:08:52,840 --> 00:08:58,399 was very lucky. Oh yeah, I'm still astounded every time I listened to 145 00:08:58,440 --> 00:09:00,840 it that I have the people on my album that I do, and if 146 00:09:00,879 --> 00:09:03,039 you go looking at my profile, I have links to who these people are. 147 00:09:03,240 --> 00:09:07,320 Ye. And now I got back home though, and I had a 148 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:11,639 moment of like pure depression. Really Oh yeah, no, I you could 149 00:09:11,679 --> 00:09:15,559 ask my hubby Aaron, like, I do have another half that comes with 150 00:09:15,600 --> 00:09:18,480 me on these things, but I wanted to fly solo today. But he 151 00:09:18,519 --> 00:09:20,200 can tell you. I got home, I was like riding this high, 152 00:09:20,639 --> 00:09:22,799 you know, And then I got home from Nashville and they listened to it. 153 00:09:22,840 --> 00:09:26,320 I'm like, I'm a fraud. I'm a fake. Everyone's gonna know 154 00:09:26,440 --> 00:09:28,720 that. I'm like, I don't sound like this, Like, oh, 155 00:09:28,759 --> 00:09:31,120 I have a guitar, I don't have a band. How am I going 156 00:09:31,200 --> 00:09:33,279 to deliver? You know? Like all this anxiety built up, but then 157 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:39,399 I recognize that, like there's no linear way, there's no playbook on how 158 00:09:39,440 --> 00:09:41,600 to do things, and like I took I took a moment and an opportunity 159 00:09:41,600 --> 00:09:46,120 and ran with it. And now I'm applying myself and I'm I got a 160 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:48,919 keyboard, I'm learning how to play to back in tracks. I'm starting it. 161 00:09:48,960 --> 00:09:52,000 Lit a fire under my took it, So let's put it that way. 162 00:09:52,080 --> 00:09:56,320 Oh cool. So Jennifer Christman, if I'm saying that correctly, is 163 00:09:56,360 --> 00:10:00,639 in the chow room, says it has been beautiful watching Darling Hill grow keep 164 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:07,120 blooming, very nice, very nice. Should we play? Uh? You 165 00:10:07,159 --> 00:10:11,399 mentioned quiver? Should we give that one a listen. Yeah, I got 166 00:10:11,399 --> 00:10:13,639 a handful of tunes that I feel like to find the sound in the direction 167 00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:18,559 I want to go in and Quiver, break Free and Damsel Disorder, the 168 00:10:18,559 --> 00:10:22,240 ones that I really I'm really proud of. Let's let's give this a listen 169 00:10:22,279 --> 00:10:26,679 and then we'll come back and uh and chat more. If you're just tuning 170 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:33,279 in, we have Kate Shimkey of Darlene Hill joining us here in studio. 171 00:10:33,440 --> 00:11:05,519 But this is called Quiver. Walking through that room and see you sitting there 172 00:11:07,639 --> 00:11:15,039 drinking in my stair won't be long now, you'll be mind somehow. I 173 00:11:15,159 --> 00:11:31,600 want you to my words. I wanna hall. Let the moon whoa oo 174 00:11:26,639 --> 00:11:39,320 woo. I see the stars in his eyes and it's no surprise. Let 175 00:11:39,399 --> 00:11:45,720 the symbols on our souls have a common bowl. He scream. There's a 176 00:11:45,759 --> 00:11:50,480 hole in me, A hole in me, A hole in me where I 177 00:11:50,639 --> 00:12:01,039 go to hide. You know there's room for two a painted blue can here. 178 00:12:01,080 --> 00:12:18,799 Your phantasies won't die. I want a piece of you inside. My 179 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:31,240 knees are shaky, shaky, shaky, and tongue between ninety. My knees 180 00:12:31,240 --> 00:12:45,039 are shaky, shaky, shaky, and town between ninety and there's something so 181 00:12:45,519 --> 00:13:07,759 familiar I cannot divide. I think I found my own uncle Sid. And 182 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:22,440 you think it's when will I see you again? Boy? We don't have 183 00:13:22,519 --> 00:13:30,840 to make plans. We can leave it to baby, the baby. You 184 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:35,879 know it's affective. We leave it up to that. Oh, we might 185 00:13:35,039 --> 00:13:48,080 be too late. Nine needs a shaky, shaky, shaky and tongue between 186 00:13:48,320 --> 00:14:05,720 ninety nine needs a shaky, shaky, shaky and tongue between ninety there's something 187 00:14:05,919 --> 00:14:26,799 so famillion I cannot buy. I think I found my guy. I think 188 00:14:26,840 --> 00:14:48,879 I found my Well, that's cool. That is quiver Kate Shimkey also known 189 00:14:50,120 --> 00:14:54,519 better known as Darlene Hill, and she is here with us live in studio 190 00:14:54,720 --> 00:14:58,120 at the news desk, and uh, yeah, that's you know, it's 191 00:14:58,120 --> 00:15:03,919 funny. I we were talking earlier about genres and so forth, and yeah, 192 00:15:03,960 --> 00:15:05,080 I don't even know how I would describe that to someone. If I 193 00:15:05,120 --> 00:15:07,840 was trying to describe what it sounds like. You know, I wouldn't know 194 00:15:07,919 --> 00:15:11,559 either. I was. I was in the studio and I looked at the 195 00:15:11,559 --> 00:15:13,120 producer, I go, what did we just do? Like? I literally, 196 00:15:13,279 --> 00:15:16,080 I go, what is that? He's like? I don't know, 197 00:15:16,080 --> 00:15:20,200 and he's so when I went there, I was like, I looked at 198 00:15:20,200 --> 00:15:24,440 his portfolio. You know, by the way, my friend who brought me 199 00:15:24,480 --> 00:15:28,639 there, her name's Rachel Barnard. She's a phenomenal booking agent and very supportive, 200 00:15:28,360 --> 00:15:31,440 and she's like, I want to hear what you sound like. You 201 00:15:31,440 --> 00:15:33,519 know, I want to know too. And so when I got there, 202 00:15:33,559 --> 00:15:37,000 I looked at his portfolio and he's worked with, you know, Beck, 203 00:15:37,360 --> 00:15:41,360 He's worked with I can't even think of it right now, a lot of 204 00:15:41,360 --> 00:15:43,679 people, but Beck stuck out to me because Beck is like out of the 205 00:15:43,679 --> 00:15:46,600 box. So I was like, okay, I can go in here and 206 00:15:46,639 --> 00:15:48,000 like ask him for the weird stuff, like I want to get weird. 207 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:50,840 I looked at him, I said, I want to get weird. These 208 00:15:50,840 --> 00:15:52,000 are the people I want to emulate. These are the sounds I like. 209 00:15:52,120 --> 00:15:54,840 You know, I'm a big fan of Danny Elfman. I'm a big fan 210 00:15:54,960 --> 00:16:02,000 of like this since nostalgic eighties, weird dark stuff. Yeah, so he's 211 00:16:02,039 --> 00:16:03,879 like, all right, So I just got in there and we started playing 212 00:16:03,919 --> 00:16:08,519 with sounds and some of those were happy accidents, some of those moments in 213 00:16:08,600 --> 00:16:11,279 the song, you know, and I quite frankly, don't even think it's 214 00:16:11,279 --> 00:16:15,279 finished. I actually left really oh yeah. If I had more time, 215 00:16:15,320 --> 00:16:18,799 I probably would have ruined it. Maybe I don't know, but like I, 216 00:16:18,919 --> 00:16:19,440 you know, some things you just got to let them be. They 217 00:16:19,440 --> 00:16:22,759 can develop over time, move on to something different. So Quiver was the 218 00:16:22,840 --> 00:16:27,000 song about just feeling weak in the knees over someone across the room you don't 219 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:30,519 even know, right, you know, and you think you have something in 220 00:16:30,559 --> 00:16:33,240 calm with them, or they make their heart your heart like beat faster. 221 00:16:33,600 --> 00:16:37,159 You just feel lusty for them, not necessarily love, but yeah, kind 222 00:16:37,159 --> 00:16:41,679 of quivery. Yeah, yeah, do any of these songs, I mean, 223 00:16:42,159 --> 00:16:48,279 did any of them come out like really different than what you had in 224 00:16:48,360 --> 00:16:52,799 mind when you first wrote them? So Damsels Disorder was literally like right before 225 00:16:52,840 --> 00:16:56,679 I got in the car to drive to Nashville. We drove down there and 226 00:16:56,799 --> 00:17:02,360 I found a songbook from like two thousand and six, and I was flipping 227 00:17:02,360 --> 00:17:06,279 through it and I saw like two verses in a chorus and I had no 228 00:17:06,359 --> 00:17:07,880 idea what that was going to say. I had an idea in my head, 229 00:17:07,880 --> 00:17:11,400 I guess you could say, like a direction that I wanted to go 230 00:17:11,440 --> 00:17:12,759 in. But I was like, you know what I'm gonna like, what 231 00:17:12,799 --> 00:17:15,960 do they say, Throw it at the wall and see what sticks. That's 232 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:17,920 going to be the one I'm going to do this with. And before it 233 00:17:17,960 --> 00:17:19,240 was called knives, and if you listen to it you will know why. 234 00:17:19,279 --> 00:17:22,200 But I didn't want to be that literal. So I was looking at it 235 00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:25,640 and I remembered writing it. I was sitting in my kitchen and I was 236 00:17:25,640 --> 00:17:27,079 looking around the room. So because I was, you know, i'll dip 237 00:17:27,119 --> 00:17:30,960 back into my past, I was pretty violently assaulted, and it left me 238 00:17:32,039 --> 00:17:34,519 with some symptoms. You know, and I'm not the first to discover that 239 00:17:34,559 --> 00:17:38,200 you have some magical powers. After you've gone through such physical things. You 240 00:17:38,240 --> 00:17:42,160 tend to have situational awareness, Yes, you tend to have You tend to 241 00:17:42,240 --> 00:17:45,640 want your back to the corner. You do it. You just do it 242 00:17:45,720 --> 00:17:48,480 naturally, you know, it just comes with the territory. And so I 243 00:17:48,559 --> 00:17:52,440 was I was mad about that though at first I was really angry. I 244 00:17:52,480 --> 00:17:55,000 was like, I don't want this burden and I want to just go places 245 00:17:55,079 --> 00:17:56,799 and feel safe and feel good about it. I was like, well, 246 00:17:56,839 --> 00:18:00,519 why don't I write it, write a song about how I'm feeling? Yeah, 247 00:18:00,559 --> 00:18:03,359 And so I was just sitting in the kitchen, and I recognize that. 248 00:18:03,400 --> 00:18:06,880 I do notice where weapons are, you know, like weapons was a 249 00:18:06,880 --> 00:18:07,680 big thing, like, oh that could be a weapon, this could be 250 00:18:07,680 --> 00:18:10,720 a weapon, but knives, I was like, in the kitchen. Cool. 251 00:18:11,119 --> 00:18:14,920 Yeah, So when I walked in there, we kind of built built 252 00:18:14,920 --> 00:18:19,519 the song together. And that's that was one that surprised me. Yeah, 253 00:18:19,559 --> 00:18:22,359 and I was real excited about that one because it was catchy, it was 254 00:18:22,440 --> 00:18:27,880 quick, and it was a little edgy no pun intended. Yeah. Yeah. 255 00:18:27,880 --> 00:18:32,039 Marian Banish in the chat room says, very powerful music. I love 256 00:18:32,079 --> 00:18:37,039 it, thank you and oh, she said, gives me chills. Oh, 257 00:18:37,200 --> 00:18:41,799 very cool. And our friend Charles Richardson from Florida also has joined us 258 00:18:41,839 --> 00:18:47,000 in the Facebook live chat. So as far as so, are you actively 259 00:18:47,039 --> 00:18:49,680 performing these live yet or are you still kind of figuring that out? Well, 260 00:18:49,720 --> 00:18:53,680 I mean, I'm I'm open to bookings. I am. I am 261 00:18:53,759 --> 00:18:57,000 working on like I've been practicing two times a week. You know, I 262 00:18:57,039 --> 00:19:02,440 got my keyboard. I need a drummer, and I don't think I could 263 00:19:02,440 --> 00:19:06,640 get a drummer, you know, overnight. So I get real shy about 264 00:19:06,680 --> 00:19:08,599 who I share my music with. And I really need to let that go 265 00:19:08,680 --> 00:19:11,680 and if I want to break free of that. But I do play out. 266 00:19:11,880 --> 00:19:15,359 I'm playing the bull Run, you know, I'm right now. I'm 267 00:19:15,440 --> 00:19:17,880 just getting my foot in the door at the bull Run, which is in 268 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:19,599 Shirley, Massachusetts. I'm gonna playing in the Tavern, but they do have 269 00:19:19,640 --> 00:19:23,720 an events center there. I would love to play more house concerts, you 270 00:19:23,759 --> 00:19:26,079 know, if people want to book me for a house concert. I like 271 00:19:26,119 --> 00:19:30,119 those intimate environments. Yeah, I am a recovered alcoholic, so I'm not 272 00:19:30,119 --> 00:19:34,400 a big fan of playing bars. So much self preservation kicks in and I'm 273 00:19:34,400 --> 00:19:37,519 like, that's cool. I would love to play that. But is there 274 00:19:37,759 --> 00:19:40,160 is like I'll do it, you know, but I usually get in and 275 00:19:40,160 --> 00:19:42,640 out of there. But I am I'm ready. I'm excited, you know. 276 00:19:42,759 --> 00:19:48,039 So if anybody would like to book me, please go to my website, 277 00:19:48,039 --> 00:19:51,279 and you know, I can be flexible. See what works. They 278 00:19:51,279 --> 00:19:53,799 would get a version of Darling Hill. That would be me, my partner 279 00:19:53,799 --> 00:19:57,920 Aaron Durman, who plays guitar, and my friend Nicholas Chico who's playing bass 280 00:19:57,920 --> 00:20:02,400 and pretty much picking up the slow back and everything else with the with the 281 00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:07,160 electronics and all that we are growing, but I don't have any intention of 282 00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:11,559 stopping right, so, you know, any support we could get to be 283 00:20:11,599 --> 00:20:15,119 showcased would be great. It's funny you mentioned, uh, you needing a 284 00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:18,960 drummer, because it's something that's been a big topic on the show recently with 285 00:20:18,079 --> 00:20:22,039 musicians. As you know, every drummer you talk to, it's like they're 286 00:20:22,039 --> 00:20:26,799 in already intended. Yeah. Well there's a lot going on with drummers too. 287 00:20:26,799 --> 00:20:29,759 They got the gear, you know, just carrying the gear. And 288 00:20:29,799 --> 00:20:33,960 I live in a cabin in the woods that's eight hundred feet walk in sight 289 00:20:33,079 --> 00:20:36,720 only. Oh really yeah, So I live on a land trust and we 290 00:20:36,759 --> 00:20:40,680 live according to the land. So it's really great for creating art and music 291 00:20:40,799 --> 00:20:44,039 and post house concerts in my backyard. So that's like a whole nother thing. 292 00:20:44,039 --> 00:20:47,240 That's how I It's how I've nurtured myself. I created my own music 293 00:20:47,240 --> 00:20:51,720 community, and so I would I would book, promote and donation based house 294 00:20:51,720 --> 00:20:56,000 concerts in my backyard for nine years and just the getting the musicians to come 295 00:20:56,079 --> 00:21:00,359 and telling them you have to carry your gear through eight through a forest. 296 00:21:00,559 --> 00:21:03,839 And then, by the way, I don't even have a real bathroom. 297 00:21:03,839 --> 00:21:07,720 There's an outthuse. So it humbles the musicians real quick and they either go, 298 00:21:07,799 --> 00:21:10,839 oh my god, that's awesome. Yeah, I can't wait to do 299 00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:12,440 that, and they like they love it. And then I got others that 300 00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:17,119 are like, okay, you know, and they're a little hesitant, but 301 00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:18,440 once they get there and they see in the environment and they see how intimate 302 00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:21,799 it is. Because I really am at the root of it. It's about 303 00:21:21,839 --> 00:21:23,720 the art to me, like I love the whole marketing and like making the 304 00:21:23,759 --> 00:21:26,960 catchy songs and see what. But but to me, I mean, the 305 00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:30,720 whole reason why I created this was so I could not let my mind go 306 00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:36,240 dark places. You know, it's very very typical. So I did it 307 00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:38,559 in my own backyard because I could. I had the property, and so 308 00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:41,759 now like I could book myself in my backyard all day long, but I 309 00:21:41,759 --> 00:21:45,599 would like to I would like to get out. And you know, if 310 00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:48,960 there's a drummer out there that just needs a workout routine, yeah, I 311 00:21:49,799 --> 00:21:55,920 always say. My theory about why drummers are hard to find is because when 312 00:21:55,960 --> 00:21:59,319 you're growing up and you first become interested in playing a musical instrument, when 313 00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:00,279 you when you have to have the talk, you know, with your parents 314 00:22:00,319 --> 00:22:03,079 about it. And if you say, well, I want to play drums, 315 00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:07,119 you know they're like drums. What a full body experience that must be 316 00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:12,000 though, Really like watching so I had shaky folks, real sought after drummer 317 00:22:12,519 --> 00:22:17,559 in Nashville, and he got in there and just ripped it up, like 318 00:22:17,799 --> 00:22:21,079 brought those songs to life. I was just lit. I was turned on. 319 00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:26,519 I've never got my rocks off so hard. And it's in any watching 320 00:22:26,599 --> 00:22:30,599 him play my music and wondering what it must feel like to really embody that 321 00:22:30,759 --> 00:22:34,079 full expression of like over here over there, you know, like wow, 322 00:22:34,079 --> 00:22:40,279 Wow, that's just a full body physical experience that you're having. And you 323 00:22:40,319 --> 00:22:41,839 know, I'm willing to buy a drum kit and keep it in my house 324 00:22:42,039 --> 00:22:47,279 right right, if someone would just come and play and practice for me and 325 00:22:47,279 --> 00:22:52,200 book out right right. Jenny shared the website in the chat room too, 326 00:22:52,279 --> 00:22:56,279 Darlenehill music dot com. Who does your website? By the way, so 327 00:22:56,319 --> 00:22:59,079 really nice. I'm a web designer, so I really yeah, you did 328 00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:00,960 a nice years of practice, Thank you, Thank you so much. It 329 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:06,079 took a long time of observing so when I while I was creating, honing 330 00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:11,400 my craft and learning how to play music and convincing myself that I could be 331 00:23:11,559 --> 00:23:18,039 different and still succeed. Yeah. I I learned through other musicians, watching 332 00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:22,039 other musicians and booking them and promoting them and going to their shows and learning 333 00:23:22,079 --> 00:23:25,880 about the gears, you know, behind the curtain and like all that stuff 334 00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:30,400 I I you know, And so by the time I was ready to do 335 00:23:30,519 --> 00:23:34,079 my own music, I wanted to make sure I at least looked like I 336 00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:37,319 knew what I was doing. Right, so far, I sound like I 337 00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:40,319 know what I'm doing. Now I look like I know what I'm doing. 338 00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:45,799 Yeah, yeah, absolutely, Well let's uh, what do we What was 339 00:23:45,799 --> 00:23:48,319 the song you just Damsel Disorder was the other one? I said, you, 340 00:23:48,759 --> 00:23:52,079 Yeah, you sent me the whole We might have time to play all 341 00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:56,240 all five tracks. But but yeah, you had mentioned Damsel Disorder a few 342 00:23:56,240 --> 00:24:00,680 minutes ago, so maybe we should give that one a listen, not next, 343 00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:03,319 And you said this, this is the one that was It was originally 344 00:24:03,319 --> 00:24:04,799 called Knives, but yeah, and you'll know why when you hear it. 345 00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:08,640 But you didn't want to go with the obvious. Uh yeah, yeah that 346 00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:11,960 makes sense. Yeah. Now I'm kind of hoping I did do it, 347 00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:15,279 because then like that meme with Britney Spears making the knife gestures. Have you 348 00:24:15,319 --> 00:24:18,200 seen that? Oh? I like, I'm like waiting for somebody to find 349 00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:21,880 my song on TikTok and make a meme with it. Right, But it's 350 00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:25,319 called damsel disorder. All right, very good, this is damsel disorder, 351 00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:41,759 Darling Hill, check it out, Damsel in distress. Pace what I do 352 00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:52,200 best? Because I know we've on the knives on, because I know we've 353 00:24:52,240 --> 00:25:02,279 all the nives are unfished, business has already left. It's scars. Because 354 00:25:02,319 --> 00:25:08,079 I know where all the knives are. Because I know where all the knives 355 00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:33,599 are. That's turning in the lyrics, like summer names, spirits of whom, 356 00:25:33,759 --> 00:25:44,759 thoughts in the lyrics, tum thoughts in the lyrics. Don't let them 357 00:25:44,880 --> 00:26:00,759 all be break the only New York nemies life with missed weakness, say, 358 00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:07,119 held them closing, kept them mysy. Now I know where are the knives 359 00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:17,880 are? Now I know where all the knives are, dranomen tasted. It's 360 00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:22,519 my territory. I'll stake it. Oh whoa, Now I know where are 361 00:26:22,599 --> 00:26:32,440 the knives are? Now I know where all the knives are. Don't have 362 00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:48,359 them home New York and nies life. Now I know where all the knives 363 00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:57,200 are. Who now I know where all the knives are when the puts in 364 00:26:57,279 --> 00:27:40,200 the lyrics. Now now damsel disorder is the name of the song. That 365 00:27:40,319 --> 00:27:42,960 is Darling Hill. And we have Kate shim Key of Darling Hill here with 366 00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:48,359 us live in studio. That's great. It's catchy, and I uh, 367 00:27:48,759 --> 00:27:52,039 I like how cheerful it sounds, you know what, But now I know 368 00:27:52,079 --> 00:27:55,960 where all the knives are, it's very cheerful. Well, I would. 369 00:27:56,319 --> 00:28:00,240 I used to busk, so I started with ale and then I shifted over 370 00:28:00,319 --> 00:28:03,920 to a banjo lately really, which is basically the same thing, but I 371 00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:07,160 threw it like a metallic string in the sea chord, yeah, and it 372 00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:10,279 gave it a twang. And like, I did find it quite funny when 373 00:28:10,279 --> 00:28:12,079 I'd be busking at like Parker's Maple Barn or like on the side of the 374 00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:15,759 road that people would be like bopping their heads and I'd be singing like folks 375 00:28:15,759 --> 00:28:18,920 songs about murder and like crying and stuff. Right, So I kind of 376 00:28:19,079 --> 00:28:25,839 liked that what's the word that contradiction of peppie and sad? Yeah, yeah, 377 00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:29,119 yeah, I dig that. No, that that song really does it? 378 00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:33,519 That's cool. Jennifer Christman in the chat room, says a message from 379 00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:38,559 Ellen Shimkey. She loves your music, watching you grow and is so proud 380 00:28:38,559 --> 00:28:41,720 of you. That's my mom. Oh, very good, family, very 381 00:28:41,799 --> 00:28:51,599 nice, We've been very supportive. Let's see. She also said from Judy 382 00:28:51,799 --> 00:28:56,440 Russo, how awesome it is that you are able to turn pain into purpose. 383 00:28:56,920 --> 00:29:03,599 Just love hearing your voice, whether it's talking or singing. So well, 384 00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:07,200 so sorry, oh so happy you are now no longer a damsel in 385 00:29:07,279 --> 00:29:11,759 distress. Keep on rocking. So these are people that have witnessed the whole 386 00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:17,759 lifetime movie. Yeah, started from the bottom. Now we're here moment ye 387 00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:23,640 right. Yeah. Mariam Banish says, mister B gentleman rhymer plays a what'd 388 00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:26,720 you call it? A banjo lately? Yeah? I played a banjo lately. 389 00:29:26,799 --> 00:29:30,079 Yeah. I didn't know that was a thing. Yeah, I mean, 390 00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:33,119 neither until I you know, I didn't want to. Like. I 391 00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:36,240 like the ukulelea got me started, It got me started, got my fingers 392 00:29:36,279 --> 00:29:38,680 used to playing strings. But that was your first instrument. Yeah, yeah, 393 00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:41,359 and you know I got kind of sick of it, you know, 394 00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:45,920 And I noticed when I started playing guitar that I sounded better vocally. There 395 00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:51,880 was more notes to blend with. I could experiment more vocally, So I 396 00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:56,279 started to you know, develop my voice, which quite frankly, it's it's 397 00:29:56,640 --> 00:30:00,000 I've been told that, you know, it might be what sets me apart. 398 00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:02,680 It I do sound very different. But because of that, I was 399 00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:07,480 always very not confident, you know, because I have a lot of really 400 00:30:07,519 --> 00:30:11,720 talented friends that are very Their range is really good. You know, they 401 00:30:11,799 --> 00:30:15,160 sound top notch, and I always you know, you're you're going to compare 402 00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:17,720 yourself, of course, even you know, no matter what. So I 403 00:30:17,799 --> 00:30:19,440 knew that I didn't sound like most people. I was very aware, but 404 00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:23,079 I just decided that it didn't matter. I was like, I'm going to 405 00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:26,880 do this for me first. That's about all this was about. For me. 406 00:30:26,039 --> 00:30:30,559 I got real selfish. And yeah, the opportunity to go to Nashville 407 00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:37,640 was very very expensive, just the travel expenses alone were very expensive. But 408 00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:45,039 it was it was a very defining moment. It was it was really yeah, 409 00:30:45,319 --> 00:30:49,519 a good thing? Is it? Is it challenging to recreate those songs 410 00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:53,039 live? I imagine they change, right, Yes? They do? I 411 00:30:53,039 --> 00:30:57,480 mean now my actually I perform it better. Now that I've heard it through 412 00:30:57,480 --> 00:31:00,680 a big production studio, I do have more confidence. But yeah, I 413 00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:04,039 don't have like a backup vocal like I said, I don't have that drummer, 414 00:31:04,079 --> 00:31:07,759 but I still have that energy, you know, vocally, My vocals 415 00:31:07,759 --> 00:31:11,160 do just keep getting better. I'll pat myself on the back there, so 416 00:31:11,319 --> 00:31:15,640 you know, it's it's definitely a It was a learning curve coming back there, 417 00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:18,880 and once again, I didn't want to let it stop me. I 418 00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:22,440 had a moment where I dipped and I was like, I'm a fraud. 419 00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:23,839 I'm this. I'm that everyone's going to know. And I'm like, wait 420 00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:27,519 a minute, imposter syndrome, That's exactly what it was. But I was 421 00:31:27,559 --> 00:31:30,880 like, what comes first, the chicken or the egg, you know. 422 00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:33,720 And I started looking into other musicians, and you know, a lot of 423 00:31:33,759 --> 00:31:36,480 them don't create their music until they go in the studio and they don't know 424 00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:37,160 what they're going to sound like, and then they figured it out later. 425 00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:41,119 I think Blaze Foley was one. I've been learning a lot about Blaze Foley. 426 00:31:41,119 --> 00:31:44,039 I've been really captured by his story and he even said, you know, 427 00:31:44,079 --> 00:31:47,200 he goes to the studio, creates it and then he would hire musicians 428 00:31:47,279 --> 00:31:51,440 later to emulate that. So when I can afford all that, I will, 429 00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:55,559 But right now I'm just it was like a goal. You know, 430 00:31:55,559 --> 00:31:59,640 I'm forty years old. It was a fortieth birthday thing that I did. 431 00:31:59,759 --> 00:32:02,200 And you know, fortunately my husband was very supportive watched me go through all 432 00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:08,279 this. My husband also works in audio, so he was very interested in 433 00:32:08,359 --> 00:32:13,519 just going in general. So he's a microphone designer for Earthworks Audio. Oh 434 00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:16,359 no kidding. So when we went, there was this other whole agenda, 435 00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:21,160 you know, to see because quite frankly, the gear that I used was 436 00:32:21,279 --> 00:32:23,400 very iconic. Some of the gear I used was used by Scott Wiland, 437 00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:29,279 a very like famous microphone. I don't know, he got real excited about 438 00:32:29,319 --> 00:32:30,799 the microphone. All the guys were excited about the microphone in the room. 439 00:32:30,799 --> 00:32:34,160 I was just happy that Scott Wiland siging into it. That's all I cared 440 00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:37,039 about. But there was like this back end history of like technology that this 441 00:32:37,119 --> 00:32:40,400 microphone has never been made the same way. It was like a Newman U 442 00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:44,279 four seven, Like, I don't know, it's real special. Yeah, 443 00:32:44,319 --> 00:32:47,039 But all I was hung up on was stone tumble pilots but yeah, I 444 00:32:47,079 --> 00:32:50,359 was like, he's telling me Scott Wiland spit into this. Okay, cool, 445 00:32:50,599 --> 00:32:52,799 right, right, So that's all I needed to get jessed. Yeah. 446 00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:57,039 So he he, he got to see, you know, from an 447 00:32:57,079 --> 00:33:01,359 audio engineer perspective, real high end recording studio. He's seen it before, 448 00:33:01,359 --> 00:33:06,000 but it's been a while for him. So now are you already thinking about 449 00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:07,720 the next one? Absolutely? I already got songs. I want to go 450 00:33:07,759 --> 00:33:09,839 there so bad. I want to go right back. You know, there's 451 00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:14,880 there's a lot of studios in New Hampshire that I'm not going to like pretend 452 00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:20,279 don't exist everywhere. They are kind of like tucked away, you know. 453 00:33:20,319 --> 00:33:22,839 And I did work with a real uh you know. I don't know if 454 00:33:22,839 --> 00:33:25,640 you've ever met Charlie Chrinopolis. He's a phenomenal local musician. I don't. 455 00:33:27,039 --> 00:33:30,160 I'm very aware of him. I don't think i've met him. I don't 456 00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:34,200 think I have. You should yeah, so he So. I was supposed 457 00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:37,559 to go to Nashville before the lockdowns, and then the lockdowns happened, and 458 00:33:37,599 --> 00:33:40,200 then I just resigned myself to never going to Nashville. I thought it was 459 00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:44,279 a pipe dream. Oh silly me for thinking I could go, and so 460 00:33:44,319 --> 00:33:49,559 I just kind of refocused locally and I met Charlie Kronopolis or part of an 461 00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:52,640 art community, and I met him through the art community and he's very, 462 00:33:53,599 --> 00:33:58,880 very humbling, very grounded, down to earth person, but you would you 463 00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:00,279 know, he's phenomenal on stage. So like, yeah, I was a 464 00:34:00,319 --> 00:34:02,279 little intimidated at first, but when I met him, I was like, 465 00:34:02,279 --> 00:34:05,799 Hey, how do you feel about recording me? So I went up and 466 00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:08,400 I spent about a year with him, and he approached me from a very 467 00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:13,119 gentle angle where he just put me in the room and let me play live 468 00:34:13,199 --> 00:34:16,599 and he worked with me and just having that experience with him. By the 469 00:34:16,639 --> 00:34:20,880 time I was done, Nashville came back on my radar and I had an 470 00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:22,440 opportunity to go, so I went. So I give a lot of credit 471 00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:25,880 to Charlie Carnovelis for being my coach. Yeah, through that, and if 472 00:34:27,039 --> 00:34:30,800 nobody's any of your listeners haven't heard him, go check him out. He's 473 00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:34,559 phenomenal, phenomenal and you know, maybe I can give you his contact and 474 00:34:34,559 --> 00:34:37,280 he can be Yeah, definitely, definitely, because like I said, I've 475 00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:39,079 always been aware of him. It seems like his name has just come up. 476 00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:44,280 Yeah, he actually got played locally. I don't obviously wasn't this one 477 00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:45,760 or else he would know, but he was played in a local station and 478 00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:51,800 I know he plays, he plays around Manchester and conquered. Yeah. Yeah, 479 00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:53,800 but worth your time for sure, Yeah, no doubt, no doubt. 480 00:34:55,159 --> 00:34:58,719 Are you are you writing a lot? Like do you have a lot 481 00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:02,880 of song ideas I have about gosh. I have one that's literally called back 482 00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:07,840 burner, yeah, that I haven't recorded. I have one that I did 483 00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:09,119 record in Nashville, but it wasn't happy with it. You know. It 484 00:35:09,199 --> 00:35:12,920 was like one of the tracks I did where I was like, it was 485 00:35:13,039 --> 00:35:16,039 just not it wasn't hitting the mark. Okay. So I probably have about 486 00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:21,360 six songs on in my books that I could probably go back down and record 487 00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:23,400 if I wanted to, if I had the money, Yeah, or find 488 00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:25,840 another studio. You know, once you go to Nashville, I feel like 489 00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:28,960 it's like, you know, it's kind of like crack. Once you go, 490 00:35:29,079 --> 00:35:30,920 you want to go back. You know, you get a taste and 491 00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:34,159 you want to go back. And like I said, the studio musicians there 492 00:35:34,159 --> 00:35:38,400 are like wow yeah yeah yeah, And I did have a really great connection 493 00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:42,239 with the producer down there, So I do feel like we it was like 494 00:35:42,519 --> 00:35:45,719 I compared working with Zach from Wildfeather. It was Wild Feather recording right outside 495 00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:52,360 of Nashville. Yeah, and he he you know, he really cares about 496 00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:57,519 your music. Like it's it's intoxicating how much he cares, like and he 497 00:35:57,599 --> 00:36:00,800 will do whatever he can to make sure that he gets that sound. Yeah, 498 00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:04,480 and it's like I told my husband, I was like, it's like 499 00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:07,840 I got out of class and it's playtime and I get to play in the 500 00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:09,920 playground with Zach all day long. Like it was euphoric, Like it was 501 00:36:10,039 --> 00:36:13,800 just so much fun. So I'm kind of addicted to working with him, 502 00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:15,760 but I do need to I would like to broaden my horizons and work with 503 00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:21,320 producers locally here as well. Yeah. M hm, very good, very 504 00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:24,079 good. Are there any so there's a song that you did there that didn't 505 00:36:24,079 --> 00:36:28,079 make it onto the EP? Are there others or are just that one that 506 00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:30,519 that you decided not to put on there? No, that was the only 507 00:36:30,599 --> 00:36:32,440 one that I actually attempted to record that didn't go on there. Yeah. 508 00:36:32,519 --> 00:36:37,639 Yeah, I do want to record back Burner. It's like about being the 509 00:36:37,679 --> 00:36:42,760 back burner in a relationship. There's a song called Backbone for the Backlash, 510 00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:45,719 which is basically I didn't know it at the time when I wrote it, 511 00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:47,760 but to put that one in a nutshell, it's basically about cancel culture and 512 00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:52,480 just doing it anyway and saying what you want to say anyway. And you 513 00:36:52,519 --> 00:36:54,039 know, no matter what you know, because that's just the world we're living 514 00:36:54,079 --> 00:36:57,159 and now, no matter what you say, someone's going to get upset. 515 00:36:57,320 --> 00:37:00,679 So as long as you have love in your heart, write all that Buddhist 516 00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:02,800 crap, you know, as long as you know, as long as you 517 00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:07,079 can sleep at night knowing you're a good person, didn't do it? See 518 00:37:07,079 --> 00:37:08,960 what happens? Yeah, So that song I really did want to record, 519 00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:13,559 and I just wasn't happy with I just didn't like it. I was like, 520 00:37:13,599 --> 00:37:15,440 no, no, it just didn't feel right. So I would like 521 00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:19,719 to re record that one as well. When that happens? Does up? 522 00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:23,760 Zach is his name? Yes? Does he? What is he like when 523 00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:25,800 when you say to him, you know, I don't I don't think this 524 00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:30,599 one's working out? Does he does he try to talk you into keeping it? 525 00:37:30,639 --> 00:37:34,159 Does he try to try to help you figure out what's not working, 526 00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:37,320 or does he just say okay, we'll move on, like what happens in 527 00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:39,079 that scenario. Well, in this scenario, I could tell you. In 528 00:37:39,119 --> 00:37:43,199 other scenarios, if something didn't hit the mark, like say on Quiver or 529 00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:45,320 break Free, I could tell him and we would you know, work and 530 00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:50,079 calibrate, and yeah, there it is. What happened with Backbone for the 531 00:37:50,119 --> 00:37:52,800 Backlash was it was almost like I tried to squeeze too many songs in at 532 00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:59,239 once, So this one just didn't develop as well as the others, and 533 00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:02,800 to put it in with the other ones would have been like bad news Bears. 534 00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:06,800 It would have been like because like, if you do play my other 535 00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:08,920 songs, you're gonna notice, your listeners are gonna notice is very different from 536 00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:12,519 what you just listened to. So the last two songs on my EP are 537 00:38:12,599 --> 00:38:17,679 very folk oriented, they're very folky, and so Backbone for the Backlash was 538 00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:22,079 also very folky. I had like this Irish folk vibe to it, and 539 00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:24,239 and it just almost it just didn't hit the mark, and we just didn't 540 00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:27,639 have time. Just didn't have time. And I told him, I said, 541 00:38:27,639 --> 00:38:30,039 if I can go back, you know, which is a shame because 542 00:38:30,079 --> 00:38:34,719 Kaylan Chase gave background vocals for that, and Kaylen's worked with Corn, He's 543 00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:37,599 worked with Melissa Ethridge, He's worked with Chris Parnell. He's that's why when 544 00:38:37,639 --> 00:38:40,880 you hear those tracks with him backing me up vocally, they sound so epic, 545 00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:44,360 you know, and they got they they do hit that mark. But 546 00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:45,679 there was just something about this one. We just didn't have time. I 547 00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:47,960 needed to scoot, I needed to come back to New Hampshire. I couldn't 548 00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:52,360 couldn't stay anymore. So it's on It's on his radar if we were to 549 00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:54,320 ever approach it again. Okay, oh very cool. Yeah, well, 550 00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:59,480 I think we have time to fit another track, and I know we think. 551 00:38:59,519 --> 00:39:00,679 I think we've three that you wanted to make sure that we were, 552 00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:04,519 but but you did sound. If I had to pick the last one, 553 00:39:04,559 --> 00:39:07,480 I'm gonna and this one will go out to my family because this song is 554 00:39:07,519 --> 00:39:12,519 called Garden of Crowns. And this song is actually the song that my agent 555 00:39:12,599 --> 00:39:15,519 friend heard and she said, you need to take that song to Nashville. 556 00:39:15,559 --> 00:39:20,079 It's beautiful. So when I came back home, I met the love of 557 00:39:20,119 --> 00:39:24,000 my life, Aaron Durman, and I was getting ready to marry him. 558 00:39:24,159 --> 00:39:27,920 But I was also really sad because my father was no longer with us. 559 00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:31,440 He passed away within like like three weeks after I moved back home, and 560 00:39:31,519 --> 00:39:35,559 so there was this weird mix of like, I had this weird mix of 561 00:39:35,679 --> 00:39:38,599 joy because I survived this attack and I survived all these awful things and I 562 00:39:38,639 --> 00:39:42,559 was getting out of these bad things, but my family and I were also 563 00:39:42,599 --> 00:39:46,840 still grieving. So I was like trying to write a song to express how 564 00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:49,760 I feel. You know. That's what I do instead of picking up a 565 00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:52,159 bottle when I start getting those feelings, I'm gonna pick up a pen and 566 00:39:52,199 --> 00:39:54,960 paper and just do that. Yeah. So I was looking at my pictures 567 00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:59,480 of my mother on her wedding day and she was wearing a daisy crown, 568 00:39:59,679 --> 00:40:02,760 and I like the theory of the circle of life and love and like when 569 00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:07,480 something ends, something new begins. And so when I would play this for 570 00:40:07,599 --> 00:40:12,360 my friends, Rachel Barnard heard me, and she goes take that to Nashville. 571 00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:14,599 She's like, I do wedding caterine on the side. I'm telling you 572 00:40:14,639 --> 00:40:17,079 that song should be played it every every wed every anybody who gets married is 573 00:40:17,079 --> 00:40:20,880 gonna want to play that on their wedding day. So I would like to 574 00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:23,800 dedicate, you know, this to my mom and my sister and anybody else 575 00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:28,280 in my family who may have gone through tough times. Just just know it 576 00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:30,679 does get better. You know. The only way out is through and things 577 00:40:30,679 --> 00:40:37,159 are sicular and oh yeah yeah, and this this is homage to my experiences 578 00:40:37,199 --> 00:40:38,760 growing up. Listen to my father. My father was a musician. He 579 00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:43,639 was a bass player, and he was very much immersed with like the Appellation 580 00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:45,840 sound and the folk sounds and Johnny Cash and you know, made the circle 581 00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:51,800 being broken and like all these heavy stringed instruments, you know. So so 582 00:40:52,039 --> 00:40:54,679 it was it was a lot of fun to play this in Nashville. Oh 583 00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:58,559 cool, Yeah all right. Oh. By the way, Jennifer Christman in 584 00:40:58,559 --> 00:41:01,960 the chatroom says, Garden of Crown owns story of our families. Love so 585 00:41:02,039 --> 00:41:07,280 thankful you wrote it very nice. And by the way, Quincy Raymond also 586 00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:10,280 known as Quincy Laurie, he's in the Facebook laugh chat. Yeah, he 587 00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:13,199 was on. I just watched him. Yeah, I saw that he was 588 00:41:13,199 --> 00:41:15,119 on. I listened to you, Quincy. Yeah, no, he love 589 00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:19,360 fantastic. He's played at my house before. He oh oh yeah, Oh 590 00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:22,400 yeah, he really worked my crowd. Yeah. Over, my family got 591 00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:23,840 to see him. So if my family's listening, Quincy's listening as well. 592 00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:27,719 He was on the show last week. Oh very nice. Yeah all right, 593 00:41:28,039 --> 00:41:30,800 so let's give this a listen. So this is Garden of Crowns. 594 00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:35,800 This is Kate Shimkey, better known as Darlene Hill, and she was just 595 00:41:35,840 --> 00:42:01,239 telling us all about it. So let's take a listen. She wore daisies 596 00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:10,480 on her wedding day. Love lank stams that's here to stay, their constant 597 00:42:10,599 --> 00:42:25,519 gift tabletops, the proof that their love won't stop or ever lose. Fastened 598 00:42:25,559 --> 00:42:35,840 crown of flowered weeds, made by children who and through the trees. The 599 00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:40,760 daisy crown will be worn by daughters of a queen and little girls who were 600 00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:54,840 never heard an unseen Tell me, love, what can we leave behind for 601 00:42:54,960 --> 00:43:01,360 when we die and lie side by sighs? I buy side plant seeds, 602 00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:07,559 pray with the sun. You know our stories ended, theirs has just begun. 603 00:43:09,039 --> 00:43:15,360 They'll be watered when the tears start to flow. And in our grave 604 00:43:16,039 --> 00:43:36,280 a garden of crowns. Whale grow dood DoD DoD doo root duodats that dude 605 00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:51,280 dooda dude doo tatsoodadad to daddat too easy. Frown will fall fast upon leaving 606 00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:57,480 love strong in our minds and hearts. But just when you think it's dead 607 00:43:57,880 --> 00:44:30,159 and over, our Garden of Crowns comes to light the club. I love 608 00:44:30,199 --> 00:44:35,239 it, Garden of Crowns. Darling Hill and Kate is here with us in 609 00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:40,079 studio. That is great. Darling Hill Music dot Com is the website if 610 00:44:40,079 --> 00:44:45,079 you want to learn more about Kate Shimkey and our project Darling Hill and the 611 00:44:45,199 --> 00:44:51,119 EP and oh fantastic. I love it. Great stuff. Do you have 612 00:44:51,199 --> 00:44:52,480 any now? Do you have any live shows coming up that you want to 613 00:44:52,519 --> 00:44:54,559 mention? Are you going to be playing out well? I hope that I 614 00:44:54,639 --> 00:44:58,480 get some gigs between now and my gig at the bull Run. So I 615 00:44:58,559 --> 00:45:00,280 do have a gig at the bull Run onto December thirtieth, so you can 616 00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:04,840 pregame your New Year's Eve with me at the bull Run. It's I don't 617 00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:07,880 know if you've ever been there. I've never been. It's in Massachusetts, 618 00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:09,679 so I'm aware I'm like a New Hampshire but like we're right on the border 619 00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:15,119 right So since Shirley, mass it's a really it's like it was built like 620 00:45:15,199 --> 00:45:19,239 seventeen seventy something. It's got a lot of history to it. There's several 621 00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:23,079 different rooms to it. There's like function halls, and there's a lot of 622 00:45:23,639 --> 00:45:28,920 weird folklore affiliated with it. There's like an ego pantas on the wall. 623 00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:30,920 I'm not going to tell you anything else about it. You got to go 624 00:45:30,119 --> 00:45:32,960 look. And and so I'm really excited to play there. I'm hoping that'll 625 00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:36,960 bring me more opportunities. So No, I just finished some gigs at Marco's 626 00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:38,480 on Main and aar So once again, for some reason, I keep getting 627 00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:43,320 pulled to Massachusetts. Yeah, so I'm definitely open and willing to book in 628 00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:46,480 the area for sure. I think years ago I worked at do you remember 629 00:45:46,519 --> 00:45:52,880 Strawberries? Oh yeah, yes, we sold tickets there, and I feel 630 00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:55,360 like bull Run was one of the venues we saw place that was real tickled. 631 00:45:55,440 --> 00:46:00,039 So my good friend, uh Nicole Ridgerio from Marty's Driving Range is right 632 00:46:00,079 --> 00:46:05,400 down the street from my house and I had the privilege to play her end 633 00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:08,559 of the year local music day. So I went and played there, and 634 00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:10,639 doing that, I got a gig at the bull Run as well. So 635 00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:13,679 I do. Just got to get on my comfort zone, get out of 636 00:46:13,719 --> 00:46:15,400 my little cabin in the woods and get out there. Like I said, 637 00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:20,079 house concerts are my jam. You know, I really like house concerts. 638 00:46:20,119 --> 00:46:22,880 If people know what that is, it sounds pretty self explanatory, but there's 639 00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:25,119 some planning evolved. So if that's something, if you would like to host 640 00:46:25,199 --> 00:46:30,679 me, it's like a tuppawaar party but with music. So if you are 641 00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:34,280 interested in hosting that and you have the right accommodations, let me know. 642 00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:37,760 Hit me up at info at Darlinghill Music dot com or any of my social 643 00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:40,239 media platforms or my website. You know, you'll find me anywhere online. 644 00:46:42,079 --> 00:46:45,199 And if you're a drummer, and if you're drummer and you like what you 645 00:46:45,320 --> 00:46:47,719 heard, I really need some support there of course. Yeah, no doubt, 646 00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:52,360 no doubt. And like I said, I'll buy the kit so you 647 00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:54,519 don't have to haul it down my trail. And is it practice? Is 648 00:46:54,519 --> 00:46:58,639 there a maximum requirement in terms of how many other bands they can be in? 649 00:46:59,159 --> 00:47:02,199 I mean, so long as I'm number UNO, you know that's how 650 00:47:02,239 --> 00:47:05,920 you do it. Oh, it's all right. I'm willing to be flexible. 651 00:47:06,280 --> 00:47:08,079 I mean, I played just with my guitar for years, so you 652 00:47:08,159 --> 00:47:10,679 know I can, I can. I can wing it for sure. Yeah, 653 00:47:10,920 --> 00:47:14,639 yeah, no doubt, Kate. This has been wonderful. Thank you 654 00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:19,239 so much for having me. I love the project, Darling Hill really good 655 00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:22,079 stuff and Darling Hill music dot com