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This is Gary and Shannon and you're
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The Gary and Shannon Show on demand
on the iHeartRadio app. I'm just saying,

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this show has a lot of fun. We have a lot of fun

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here. You're having fun. You'd
think that the station's upstairs would have more

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fun because they get to play music
right and do fart stuff. Well,

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maybe it's that in that time that
they're playing music they're talked out. Yeah,

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probably, but we aren't. We're
fun all the time, four hours

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of fun. Even even in the
breaks, we're fun. You know.

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You think, yeah, oh,
I'm sorry. Are you not having fun?

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Well, it's there are times when, for example, you start going

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through your purse and I don't have
anything to say about it because anything I

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said would be mean, Like what
what could you possibly say that would be

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mean with regard to me going through
my purse? Well, sometimes when you

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open that thing, it sounds like
a closet on a sitcom that's been overfilled

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with stuff falls onto the person who
opens the closet door. What do you

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need? You need it again?
This CBS receipt, Oh my gosh,

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I thought that was a pair of
pants. How about a face mask.

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I've had one of those, though, I'm fine with that nature Valley bar

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Oh, I don't want a nature. Do you guess who has the COVID?

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I think this is fake news.
I think this is a lie to

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I'm having a hard time believing anything
coming from any politician lately. Always that's

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listen. It is actually a good
rule any politician, you love them,

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you hate him, you voted for
him. You didn't always take what they

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say with just an ounce of suspicion, maybe more, maybe an ounce and

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a half of suspicion. But it
goes back to the grain of sault saying,

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which originated with when you're taking poison
right. Several top Democrats have now

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said that on the heels of the
COVID test with President Biden, the rising

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pressure of congressional leadership now means,
according to Axios, they believe that President

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Biden could drop out of the race
as soon as this week. It's gonna

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be tomorrow. Why my bet is
tomorrow. Why because it'll be Friday,

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you'll have the weekend. The way
that they think is they think that the

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news cycle will die out and they'll
have time to circle the wagons and crown

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the next leader over the weekend,
have an announcement on Monday. Maybe Well,

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if they're going to do it that
quick, their only option is Kamala

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Harris. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know, but I just

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see it's imminent. It is imminent
because if you just listen to what the

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President has said in his interviews to
that same question of will you get out

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if it shows that you cannot win
or whatever reiteration of that question he has

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faced. It went from the Lord
all he's got to tell me to I

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got to be hit by a train, to a medical condition of some kind,

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and then bam covid and guess what. All three of those have come

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true. Well, I don't know
about if the Lord Almighty has come down

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to him. Necessarily, that's between
he and the God, the and the

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God, he and the Lord.
But at this point, all three of

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those appear to have all those boxes
have been checked. At this point.

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There was a woman on MSNBC Joy
Reid, Oh, I have that audio,

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please believe it is unbelievable. Joy
Read was trying to find a way

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to explain that getting shot like President
Trump did is the same as getting COVID,

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like President Biden did. These two
men are both elderly. Donald Trump

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is an elderly man who, for
whatever reason, was given nine seconds to

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take a iconic photo op during an
active shooter of the situation. Weird situation.

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We'll figure that out one day.
But his survive and bouncing right back

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and going right to his convention is
being conveyed in the media world as a

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sign of string. This current president
of the United States is eighty one years

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old and has COVID. Should he
be fine in a couple of days?

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Doesn't that convey exactly the same thing
that he's strong enough older than Trump to

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have gotten something that used to really
be fatal to people his age. So

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if he does fine out of it
and it comes back and is able to

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do rad isn't that exactly the same? I mean, it's not exactly the

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same. It's not same incident,
but it's it's an elderly man coming through

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out of a missage. Okay,
Now, if you're just looking at the

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actual wound to President Trump's ear,
yeah, it's it's a flesh. I

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mean, it's it's fine, everything's
fine. But if you talk about the

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stress of hey, I almost lost
my life versus what appears to be a

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mild cold. And that's based on
what they say his symptoms are. Why

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is the bar so low that it's
at the place of he's not going to

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die from a cold. Listen,
that's a very low bar. And that's

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not even what we're talking about.
We're not even talking about his physical health.

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We're talking about his mental health.
His mental health is not there.

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That's the problem. Nobody's saying he's
well. People are saying he's old,

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but not that he's near death.
It's just that his mental acuity is nowhere

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near where it used to be.
There was a series of meetings that has

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apparently took meetings and phone calls that
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his I wouldn't say closest advisors,
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Former Speaker Nancy Pelosi obviously came to
Joe Biden and she said that Poles show

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that he cannot win that and that
he would take down the House. That

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is the huge thing, because Pelosi
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and she still is the puppet master. I believe there in DC,

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despite not being Speaker, and I
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That's the buckstops there. The other
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the last few days, Haakim Jeffries, the minority leader in the House,

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met with Biden last week at the
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the majority leader in the Senate,
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in those meetings they talked about the
concerns of the members in their body,

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whether it was House or Senate,
who said they were concerned that having Biden

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at the top of the ticket was
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it much much harder to hold the
Senate and then retake the House. And

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that's the same thing Adam Schiff said. Adam Shiff another one of those very

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high profile Democrats arguably the highest profile, higher maybe the Nancy Pelosi simply because

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of who he is and has been
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going up against Donald Trump. Doesn't
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Not such power. Yes, but
at least some of the noise around

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the Democratic Party has been concentrated on
Adam Schiff. But the key perhaps was

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the meeting with Katzenberg with Jeffrey Katzenberg. Jeffrey Katzenberg is one of the campaign

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co chairs and is one of the
massive, massive fundraisers for Joe Biden.

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And without the money, the campaign
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and it's interesting that he met with
Biden in Vegas just hours before the allegendary

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COVID diagnosis. And I didn't know
anybody. I don't know anybody who has

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tested for COVID. I mean literally, I don't know anybody who has tested

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for COVID in probably two years.
Steve Gregory did a couple of weeks ago.

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I rest my case. I don't
know what case I made, but

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I rest my case. The President
has COVID. According to White House Press

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Secretary Karg Jean Pierre, he flew
back to Delaware yesterday. He had been

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in Vegas. He had to cancel
his speeches. They say he will be

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self isol self isolating and will continue
to carry out all of his duties fully

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during that time. Good boy Joining
us now is Tom Dempsey. He is

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a DC correspondent for News Nation And
Tom, have you gotten any sleep in

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the past two to four weeks?
It has been so stressful and busy covering

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all these developments because it's you know, this morning in particular, it just

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looked like developments were just kind of
again left and right, and you know,

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for listeners right now, A long
story short in the story I was

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tracking all morning long for New Nation
is that this wave against President Joe Biden

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is really growing U So ABC News
first reported on it. But you know,

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private phone calls between President Joe Biden
and cene of Majority Leader Chuck Schumer

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and a House Minority Leader Hakim Jeffries
to the highest ranking Democrats on Capitol Hill

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on they allegedly all on President Joe
Biden to withdraw during those private phone calls.

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Either of them have come out publicly
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But again, when you have voices
like that coming out and pulling on

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the president to withdraw, I mean
that could be the difference maker in this

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because the higher up this gets,
the more pressure obviously is going to be

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building on the president. Just saw
a short time ago, the DNC held

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their own I don't know if you'd
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they were in Milwaukee when they held
this news conference today and said to the

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effect of we're not planning for any
scenario where Joe Biden is not at the

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top of the ticket. Is that
can we believe that? Yeah, well

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that's at least that's being said publicly. So again, this is the This

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is what is interesting being a reporter
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because there's a whole thing that's being
presented publicly, and then you're getting reports

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of stuff that's happening privately. Like
I said, publicly, we're hearing,

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you know, President Joe Biden is
our nominee and we're going to keep fighting

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and we're going to keep you know, trudging along and keep fighting through all

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this. But privately, we're hearing
more and more about these phone calls,

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you know, meetings with lawmakers expressing
concern about the president and how you know,

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him running for a president could impact
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races that are happening as well in
other states, you know, privately,

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like I said, Hakeem Jeffries,
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the Senate majority leader, holding private
phone calls with the president directly and calling

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him on him to withdraw. So
a lot of some of these politicians are

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really you know, walking a tight
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but saying different things publicly, and
you know, at least publicly. I

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will note too, we have seen
almost two dozen House Democrats come forward to

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calling on President Joe Biden to withdraw, but at least privately, I think

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that number is definitely bigger. I
feel like there's a clean team and a

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dirty team, and you know,
like Hakem. Jeffries gets to keep his

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hands clean there, while it seems
like maybe Pelosi's working in the trees and

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the fact that her name is surfaced
now to me, that's kind of where

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the bucks stops, or it seems
to be. Does she still wield the

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power that she did? Oh?
Absolutely, yeah. Yeah. So I

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mean there's the big there's the big
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and Jeffries. So again we heard
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Schumer two out of the three.
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didn't have any issue with California Representative
Adam Schiff, who's running for Senate in

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California, publicly calling on President Joe
Biden to withdraw. So again that whole

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public private thing. You know,
none of the Big three publicly have come

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forward calling on President Joe Biden to
withdraw, but privately we're seeing the much

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different game sort of play out.
Welcome to DC politics, where you hear

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one thing, but then you get
reports of a different thing. It's just

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how it works in DCA, unfortunately. But again, this is still very

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much evolving right now. And you
guys say too, as all of this

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is playing out, President Biden is
at home right now or recovering from COVID,

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and he can't be on the campaign
trail. And it was interesting because

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the White House is you have lid
on White House, you know, as

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far as public events for the president
very early today and for listeners at home.

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Basically what that means is we're not
going to really see or hear anything

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from the president today because he's recovering
from COVID. I think there's either two

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things here. They're using COVID as
an excuse for him to get out of

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these monstrous interviews where he has evolved
his line of thinking or his line of

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answering the question of will you step
down? You know, it started with

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the Lord Almighty has to tell me
to I need to be hit by a

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train to some sort of medical condition. It just seems like it just keeps

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getting worse for him on this interview
circuit. Well, that that's interesting too.

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You bring that up because you're right
to say it. As in,

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like, you know, the reasons
from President Biden, you know, what

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would lead him to withdraw. But
we're seeing kind of a slow drip as

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for reasons why he would withdraw.
You're right, First it was the Lord

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Almighty, you know, calling on
him to step down. Then it was

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a medical condition. And now apparently, at least according to the New York

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Times, he's entertaining are not as
defensive and conversations about you know, calls

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to withdraw. You know, he's
a little bit more open to hearing unfavorable

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polling data and a little bit more
open to talking about the chances for Vice

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President Kamala Harris if she were to
become the candidate. So again, it's

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like a slow drip we're seeing,
you know, as far as the reasons

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that might lead to him with withdrawing, and certainly all these lawmakers coming forward,

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the more they come forward publicly,
that's going to be the more pressure

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he's going to face. And you
know, I think one other name to

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keep in mind right now is former
President Barack Obama, because if he were

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to come out and say anything,
you know, expressing concern about President Biden

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or saying you should, you know, entertain the thought of withdrawing, that

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could be the very last, very
very big name to come out calling on

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him to withdraw. Where Hillary Clinton
in all of this, she's been very

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very quiet with people haven't talked about
her. Does she hold sway in the

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power of the way an Obama would? I think, I mean, we

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want to get into power rankings within
the Democratic Party. I think Obama probably

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carries a little bit more weight than
the Clinton's right now, but that's not

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to say I mean Hillary Clinton absolutely
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Party as well. They've been pretty
quiet as far as former President Bill Clinton

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and former presidential nominee Hillary Clinton and
for the first lady. But again,

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if any of them, the former
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or Hillary Clinton were to come out
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Because this wave really is growing right
now and it's going to be really

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interesting to see how the campaign kind
of navigate through all this. Sorry to

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hear about DJ Pickett going to LSU
instead of Miami. How did you know?

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I was a Miami Hurricanes fan?
Is that why you said that?

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Listen, we have sources, Tom, you can't break news on this show.

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Tom or dialed into the U.
All right, Tom, thank you,

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thank you you. Bet Tom Dempsey
there from News Nation, the Washington

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d C Correspondent. There's so much. I mean, he makes the good

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point. Even just this morning,
there has been development after development on the

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Biden on the Biden portion, but
there's also the assassination investigation portion of all

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of those. There's so much to
get to. Did you know that Wendy

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was I think it was Burger King
that has mozzarella fries. That was why

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I made that face. You thought
there was breaking news. I saw mozzarella

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fries. Yum, all right,
Carrie, she like mozrella sticks, but

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they're they're skinnier, but they're like
fries. Wouldn't be completely distracted now by

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another fried cheese and random fried recreational
cheese, Oh my gosh, yes,

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search a sound effect for fibber McGee
and Molly finally opening a closet that will

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be perfect for Shannon's purse. Okay, I made a comment about when you

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open your purse. It sounds like
the old sitcom trope of someone opening an

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overpacked closet and it falling completely.
I looked up Fibber McGee and Molly and

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found this in your Parkio. I
know, but where's my Oh, I

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know, it's right here in the
long clock. You've gone batty, Yes,

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right now, this closet. One
of these days. There's plenty of

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room in here, by the way, for what room for whatever. Your

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arm entirely disappears into that thing when
you reach in there. It is It's

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like if I'm going away for a
weekend. This is all I need.

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The shooter in the failed assassination attempt
against former President Trump wrote on the popular

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game platform stream quote, July thirteenth
will be my premiere. Watch as it

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unfolds. Investigative be trying to figure
out more about this guy, what he

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was doing in the days and hours
leading up to the assassination attempt. We

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know that he visited the location twice. He seemed before the rally. He

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seems to be a little obsessed with
politics on his phone. There were a

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number of photos of politicians and public
officials, pictures of Trump, President Biden,

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Fanny Willis, Fawnie Willis, excuse
me, who had been prosecuting Trump

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in Georgia, Hakeem Jeffreys, Mike
Johnson as well. Remember yesterda was it

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yesterday? No, it was Tuesday
when we did profiles of assassins, and

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one of the one of the studies
showed that their target moves will move from

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person to person. Yeah, that
they're not necessarily going after one person,

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They're just going after the notoriety or
the high profile nature of it. Now,

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what we now know is among the
thousands of people who were there at

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the rally, this guy stood out
again. He wasn't never in the fairgrounds.

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He was always on the outside of
the fence. But local officers spotted

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this guy acting oddly. They notified
other law enforcement. The Secret Service was

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also notified at the time. He
did not appear to have a weapon.

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They found this guy officers did not
know at the time, and they eventually

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lost track of him. So twenty
minutes before the shooting, twenty minutes they

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spotted him again. A sniper took
his picture and then as time slipped through,

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according to The New York Times,
at least two officers were pulled off

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of traffic detail to help look for
the guy, but the Secret Service did

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not stop the former president from taking
the stage. Eight minutes after he started

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speaking. That's when the former president
was shot. And that's why experts tell

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you this was a failure from top
to bottom. Several top Democrats have been

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telling Axios as well that the rising
pressure being put on President Biden to decide

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to drop out of the race means
that he could decide as soon as this

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weekend. The eighty one year old
president is self isolating with COVID still.

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Publicly he's been saying he's in it
to win it, and they said privately

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he has resigned to the mounting pressure, to the bad polls, to the

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scrutiny, and the possibility that whatever
legacy he had is going to be destroyed

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if he stays in the race and
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the Senate In the House. Can
we talk about the optics of him getting

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out tomorrow or this weekend. It
would be terrible for Democrats because it would

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be all but conceding the race to
Donald Trump. Because he speaks tonight today

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is all about Donald Trump at the
RNC. I mean it has been since

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it began. But he takes the
stage in Milwaukee tonight. Depending on the

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speech, I'm sure it's not going
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What the tone of his speech is. I hope it. But then

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to come out tomorrow or Saturday or
Sunday and drop out of the race.

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It's almost like, oh that the
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Yeah. Objects are bad down the
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ticket. Yeah, because it's like, oh, well, we're not going

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to beat that. We got to
get out well. Last week obviously we

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didn't know what assassination attempt was going
to take place. But last week I

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had said, you know, one
of the best options I thought would be

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for last weekend to be the time
that Joe Biden announces that he's going to

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step down, because that takes some
of the oxygen out of Milwaukee, right

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and take some of the headlines back
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it, you know, his stepping
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assuming it wouldn't be Kamala Harris.
In this scenario, that generates a

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lot of electricity. General, it's
a lot of energy. Whether it's a

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positive or negative. It generates headlines. And your plan may have been the

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plan that got derailed once the assassination
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you know what I mean, Because
if they planned to do it, let's

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say Sunday night, right last Sunday
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throughout the week from the RNC,
that would be a great plan. But

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you can't do that after the assassination
attempt. Good point. Speaking of the

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assassination attempt, one of the things
that the Director of the Secret Service has

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kind of intimated suggested, but not
really leaning into it is the building where

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the shooter was was supposed to be
protected by local officers. And Edward Natali

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is the Butler Township commissioner, and
he's going around basically defending his guys,

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defending his police force. At the
site that day, there was the Secret

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Service, the Pennsylvania State Police,
Butler County Sheriff's Department, and of course

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the Butler time Police. I am
not here to throw anyone under the bus.

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What I'm doing is protecting my team
for what is a completely unacceptable suggestion.

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I do hope that the investigation is
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out, and that's what I want, And he said, I mean,

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they have a very small police force. Butler, Pennsylvania is not a big

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city. The Butler Township Police Department
is an honorable department, works hard.

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Our detail was specifically planned for traffic
detail only. There was no security,

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no protection detail whatsoever. I guess
a couple of his officers, well not

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his, but a couple of the
officers were tasked with helping to find the

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guy after he'd been identified as at
least suspicious at that point. Now,

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a former Secret Service agent, Mike
Matrango also did an interview today and asked,

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Okay, if we had eyes on
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there was a suspicious guy walking around, that should have prompted at the very

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least a delay. I was the
former president allowed to take the stage when

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this individual had not been identified,
We did not know where his location was.

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That would be my question is why
the rush? Why push him one

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stage? Why not delay? That's
protective assignments one oh one. You have

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a person of interest that is out
there that could potentially be of harm that

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has obviously gained some type of suspicious
intent or exhibited behaviors by someone in authority.

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Why are we rushing the former president
on stage now? I don't know

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anybody rushed him, but they didn't
prevent him from going on en At a

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rally like that, it would not
be unusual to have a delay of a

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few minutes, sure, or several
minutes, I mean, until you could

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figure something out. Why haven't we
seen people get fired over this yet?

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It should have been swift, It
should have been you don't get you don't

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get an opportunity to answer questions type
of a situation. But everybody involved with

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this organizational failure should just be dumped. I also wanted to point out that

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Mike Matronga, again a former Secret
Service agent himself, had talked about protective

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details, but also talked about the
ten thousand foot level of what we do.

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We're not involved, we weren't there, we weren't work in security,

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we weren't at the rally. If
that bullet would have been an inch to

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the right, what type of civil
unrest not only in the United States that

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we would have had, but also
through throughout the nation and throughout the world.

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So we've got to do better as
Americans at understanding that there's such a

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political divisiveness in this country that's been
created by both parties. And what I

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would say is that we've got to
be better Americans. We have to understand

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that when things go bad, we
can't solely look at our government to save

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us. It's going to be our
neighbors that do that, and so that's

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what brings us together. We've got
to do better. Oh, that was

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a nice message considering all of the
absolute tornado plus a hurricane and throwing a

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sharknado of feces that has been going
on. Oh. Absolutely, you've been

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